"Alright, everyone, let's let the girl and her father have a moment of privacy, shall we? Illyasviel has waited for this moment for a long time, and the same is true of Kiritsugu, so let's... let's all just clear out, OK?" You really think it would be best if the father and daughter had at least some privacy here. Of course you aren't counting on Illya's maids leaving, because they wouldn't leave the room even if you asked them directly. Besides, you don't mind them being in the room anyway, considering they are some of the people closest to Illya in the world, and Ereshkigal... Well, Ereshkigal is asleep right now, so she won't be moving either, then again it's not like she's not somebody close to Illya either, they were technically sharing a body at one point. "Oh! And Rin, could you go and find Shirou? Tell him that he needs to go and see his sister and his father, he'll catch on quick." Hopefully, at least. Shirou exists in a state of being both dense and uncannily observant at the same time. Must be a sword thing.

You and everyone else quickly leave the room, and Rin... Rin Prime, you suppose you should probably start calling her, walks off to go and find Shirou, wherever he is right now. Probably with Saber. You don't really know how Saber is going to take her long overdue reunion with her Master from the Fourth War, the two of them definitely didn't get on at all, and... probably still won't get on, but Kiritsugu is now technically going to be Saber's Father-in-Law... Oh god. That sounds like something that definitely is not your problem. At all. Shirou can deal with that one, God knows you deal with enough as it is already.

You've got somebody else you need to find anyway. Namely, the Young Rin from the past. You sent her off to go and play with the other kids or whatever, but you do actually need to talk with her properly. In fact, it would probably be better if Rin Prime spoke to her as well, She's the only Rin that wasn't completely mentally broken down when she arrived here, but she'll probably still be confused, even if she's intelligent enough to probably figure out what happened. She should know at least that she's not dreaming, she's a smart young girl.

It doesn't take you all that long to find Rin and the rest of the kids, all of them sitting together in... well, it looks like a room that Abby and Betty are sharing together, seems like some rearranging has been down while you were busy. The girls all stop and look up at you when you enter the room, it looks like all of them were trying to show off their magical abilities to one another, it looks like even the young Rin got involved, as hovering above her hand is a ball of fire and a ball of water orbiting around each other. Simple elemental manifestation, not really that impressive for an average magus, though at Rin's age, it is of course still quite impressive.

"Good..." You quickly take a glance at the clock on the wall, it's still quite early thankfully. "Morning, girls! I hope you've been treating Rin here well." You look at Rin, who looks back at you, clearly she wants answers, you don't blame her at all. This must all be a lot to take in, and the fact of the matter is that you haven't even told her anything yet either! "I think I owe you an... explanation, of just what's going on here, Rin. I don't want you to be scared, but... You were taken to this world by the Second True Magic because you were moments away from being killed in the world of your origin. I don't know what was about to kill you..." You have some good guesses, of course, and it was almost certainly Gilles and his Master, but you aren't about to reveal that either. "But, you're safe in this world for now." Of course, the Young Rin isn't in any danger that the rest of reality isn't. In fact, she's comparatively much safer in your universe than she is in her own right now.

"So... you... saved my life?" Rin tilts her head as she looks you in the eye, the rest of the girls in the room are clearly more interested in hearing about the origins of this new girl.

"I did... Or rather, you saved your life at my request. Your possible future self wielded the Second True Magic in order to rescue a few... doomed versions of herself, and for some reason, she brought three Rins rather than simply two. I can only imagine that she somehow saw you and decided to save you, even if it served no real purpose." Looks like Rin might have a soft spot for her younger self that isn't entirely applicable to her variants that are her age.

"I... I understand. So... What's going to happen now?" Rin sounds uncertain and unsure, this world is confusing and strange, but... well, it's funny, but Rin being taken from her home universe may end up being the best thing for that timeline. If Tokiomi realizes that Rin is missing, and that the Tohsaka crest is gone with it, then his... priorities will change, and suddenly, retrieving Sakura will be quite important to the future of the Tohsaka, and while you doubt Tokiomi would be able to do much to Zouken just by himself, nor even save Sakura from her torturous life... It's the Fourth Grail War, and Gilgamesh, though he is hardly loyal to Tokiomi, won't really have much of a problem with killing somebody like Zouken for good in addition to saving the life of his Master's Daughter on his commands. So it... It might actually be for the best if she stays here for some time.

>"You're going to be staying with us for some time."
>"I'm going to offer you a chance to be adopted, by yourself or by me. At least until it's safe for you to return home."
>"Well, right now, I want you to come with me, I need you to help me play a prank on somebody, OK?"
>"I'm going to train you. I'm going to have you prepared for your own world when you return to it."
>Write-in...

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How did you convinced Eresh to let you go?

>>4798367
>>"I'm going to offer you a chance to be adopted, by yourself or by me. At least until it's safe for you to return home."
>>"I'm going to train you. I'm going to have you prepared for your own world when you return to it."
>>"But for right now, do you want to help me play a prank on somebody?"

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>>4798372
Headpats

>>4798362
>Chinese knockoff True Ancestor Yu
Got "killed" by Lev's Bomb
Lev's Bomb is Galaxy Level.
Yes, that's the reason everyone hates the obviously unplanned powerscaling bullshit. Because it's obviously not what was originally intended.
Neither was timeline pruning, for that matter.
Stuff like that just makes both Gilgamesh and Amakusa look braindead.
Nasu is worse with some of these retcons than comic book authors are.

If we were to train her, would we try to do it in the direction of Edelfelt style gemcraft? Since it is said that its based on runecraft itself, which we should be good at.

>>4798385
Supposedly Yu is actually scaled down not just hiding her power (because muh loneliness, desiring oblivion only loved Xiang Yu etc) but yeah, that's not great.

Also, Grand China just randomly tells Yu to get into the Throne for Xiang Yu because fairies can just do that, as they "select the method of their existence" and that seemingly extends to just being able to do that.

>>4798385
Eh, timeline pruning I can at least see as an outgrowth of the fact that when people kept asking Nasu how the routes relate to each other, if Zelretch being in HF confirmed it etc, he said that he'd rather not choose and if he had to choose one then he would rather the other two not exist as alternates (something something themes of you cant save everyone, you have to choose etc nasuism).

Doesn't make it better, but that wasn't THAT much of a wtf out of nowhere for me

>>4798367
>>4798382
+1
>>4798385
Lev used a mini tsar bomba enhanced with magic.

>>4798386
I wonder if we can just make a full nonsense Rin. Have Kerry teach her to Kerry, have Touko teach her magecraft, have Rin teach her the Second. We can teach her Baijiquan and Snake Style.

>>4798367
>"I'm going to offer you a chance to be adopted, by yourself or by me. At least until it's safe for you to return home."
>"Well, right now, I want you to come with me, I need you to help me play a prank on somebody, OK?"

>>4798385
As for Lev's bomb, obviously supplied by the same group as Tokiomi's mysterious contacts which also found the first snakeskin and managed to distinguish it from any other random snakeskin, even though it seems to have no characteristic.

>>4798367
This >>4798382 since it should be her choice later. She might even want to stay after she learns all details.
>>4798386
>If we were to train her, would we try to do it in the direction of Edelfelt style gemcraft? Since it is said that its based on runecraft itself, which we should be good at.
We have no shortage of really good magecraft teachers and she has a lot of potential. She will really benefit from learning a lot of things Rin would never get a chance to learn otherwise while studying fundamentals.

>>4798367
>"I'm going to offer you a chance to be adopted, by yourself or by me. At least until it's safe for you to return home."
>"Well, right now, I want you to come with me, I need you to help me play a prank on somebody, OK?"

>>4798389
Timeline Pruning makes no fucking sense.
Let's leave it at that.
Modern Nasuverse is very poorly written and falls apart unless you're willing to swallow about a hundred "Well, it actaully worked this way and that character was just wrong!"s of bullshit.
But the worst part about FGO is the fact that it's so impersonal.
The Main Character is designed to not matter at all.
They matter so little they can go from male to female and it impacts nothing at all.
Meanwhile in other less terrible stories, it's very often a personal journey.
The Journey of the Main Character was front and centre, with the powerlevels not as much of a focus.
But FGO has no real journey for the MC and it's all just Powerlevels.

>>4798382
>>4798367
This one

>>4798367
>"This is a decision only you can make"
>"I can only offer you some options"
>"You could stay here with us if you want. I'm going to offer you a chance to be adopted, by yourself or by me."
>"Or "I could train you. Have you prepared for your own world when you return to it so you can prevent some bad things that may happen in the future."
>"Think about it, and give me your answer when you're sure. Your future self and the future self of your sister may talk to you about it too if you want their opinion."

Just to make it explicit that it's her choice.

>>4798396
If only Kiritsugu got his weapons from the same people who gave Lev his bomb.
He'd probably have a Black Barrel Machine Gun.

>>4798403
You can try to think of Mashu as MC.
Not that it helps all that much.

>>4798403
In general I do think this is true, I just have much more tolerance for things of this style.

Also, the Yu being blown up is one thing, but Pepe is even more ??? since we found one of his Shugendo powers is ...knowing his own lifespan and having Okita style shukuchi and martial arts that can contend with Servants somewhat.

>>4798405
No asking her for help with the prank?

>>4798407
Good idea WhatIs, we should get Tiny Rin Black Barrel, or at least a Black Barrel Replica.

I want to give small Rin to Luvia so she grows into a happy ojou-sama.

>>4798409
And knowing his lifespan does include "being killed" instead of dying naturally, seemingly.

>>4798411
Not Kaleidosword 2.0?

>>4798367
I'm going to offer you a chance to be adopted, by yourself or by me. At least until it's safe for you to return home."

>>4798408
It really doesn't.
Mash herself is hardly a character.
Suffering purple haired girl who attaches herself to the main character and says 'Senpai' a lot.

>>4798409
The Crypters are just dumb.
A group that exists through being retconned into relevance because Part 2 needed the villain group to be connected to Chaldea somehow.
They weren't even dead apparently.
They were "Near Death." iirc.
Meaning that NOBODY thought "Why don't we wake up the True Ancestor Knock-Off who can regenerate from suicide bombing into a cloud of red mist?"

>>4798414
It was all part of his two hundred step Keikaku.
He'll reveal it was all part of his plan at some point even though it makes no sense but uhhhh History Revision OK? :DDDDD

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You know, you could probably set up a summoning circle if you really wanted if you wanted somebody that you feel could help.
You've definitely got the energy for it.
And you've got the means to summon Servants from any timeline too.

>>4798422
>Suffering purple haired girl who attaches herself to the main character and says 'Senpai' a lot.
Now this is sounds like a main heroine material.
All that left for her is to unlock her Beast potential for FGO Endspiel.

>>4798432
No, my point was the Mash is a horribly unoriginal character.
She even has some sort of complex towards her older "sister" who feels terribly guilty about her.
Also said older sister is a tsundere.

>>4798382
>>4798367
Support.

>>4798431
Should I take it as a warning that we still need some extra help?
>>4798434
But her theme song is really cool.
https://youtu.be/4gO7uemm6Yo
And hey. If Sweets end up actually making Awakening Redux we might get a chance to kill Mash and her Walking Camera husband.

>>4798410
Phineposting is a pain. Combine the two and I'll support.

>>4798440
>Phineposting

>>4798439
>Should I take it as a warning that we still need some extra help?
Take it however you wish.
I just know that at least one of you were disappointed at Lancer Artoria not being able to show up.
You probably won't need the extra help.

>>4798443
>Phineposting
Hence the pain

>>4798439
>If Sweets end up actually making Awakening Redux we might get a chance to kill Mash and her Walking Camera husband.
Oh boy, more random edge shit. Because that went over so well last time.

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>>4798443
>I just know that at least one of you were disappointed at Lancer Artoria not being able to show up.
How though? We could use RhongoBongo as a catalyst if we got Gray back, but wouldn't that bring regular Lartoria?
Wait, If Manaka got Gray, can't she summon Lartoria Alter into her?

>>4798440
>Phineposting
Thank you for supporting pinephone, buddy. I see your redemption arc is going smoothly.
>>4798443
I did give you huge list when you asked about Servants we want to see so by no means I am complaining.
>probably
Oh, worrisome.
>>4798446
It will either be another spectacular show with random bushes killing Alberich or he takes story into satisfying direction. Win-win. At least Niggerman will have some interesting competition with his Fate quest.

>>4798450
We could use Rhongo+some Grail Mud/Tiamat mud as a catalyst?

>>4798367
change >>4798391
to
>headpat rin
>"This is a decision only you can make"
>"I can only offer you some options"
>"You could stay here with us if you want. I'm going to offer you a chance to be adopted, by yourself or by me."
>"Or "I could train you. Have you prepared for your own world when you return to it so you can prevent some bad things that may happen in the future."
>"Think about it, and give me your answer when you're sure. Your future self and the future self of your sister may talk to you about it too if you want their opinion."
>"Well, right now, I want you to come with me, I need you to help me play a prank on somebody, OK?"

>>4798367
Switch >>4798405 to >>4798459

>>4798367
From >>4798399 to >>4798459

>>4798367
>headpat rin
>"This is a decision only you can make"
>"I can only offer you some options"
>"You could stay here with us if you want. I'm going to offer you a chance to be adopted, by yourself or by me."
>"Or "I could train you. Have you prepared for your own world when you return to it so you can prevent some bad things that may happen in the future."
>"Think about it, and give me your answer when you're sure. Your future self and the future self of your sister may talk to you about it too if you want their opinion."
>"Well, right now, I want you to come with me, I need you to help me play a prank on somebody, OK?"

>>4798367
>>4798459
support

>>4798367
switch >>4798404 to >>4798467
Can't beat the headpats, nope.

>>4798431
Hopeman and Altera please
>>4798367
>>4798459
+1

>>4798367
>>4798382
Support

Hopefully we can get at least this Rin to like Shinji nii-san.

>>4798382
>>4798476
Ah crap. I type it and a better one that everyone supports comes up.

Swapping to >>4798459

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It's been an hour 10 minutes, what won?
>>4798446
Killing Mash and her Walking Camera is really only acceptable if you live in a lostbelt.
Though the two of them do have a lot of blood on their hands now.

>>4798482
this one >>4798459

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>>4798450
I think I have good idea for it.
We need catalyst for normal Artoria but concepted with concept of Duty.
Remember how we got Obeithion with Saber Alter and Hope? Duty would have resulted in her Lancer Alter version.

>>4798475
You know, Altera WOULD be pretty good against basically any complex plan, authority and other bullshit that isnt just big beam if we can concept her good...
Summon her using Ares Sash+a random Divine Construct, as Photon Ray is the prototype of (nearly?) all of them? Otherwise the Sash may just get Hippolyta.

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>>4798484
So we concept Avalon?
Or a replica of Avalon made by Shirou? Or a replica of Rhongo, if he can do it.

>>4798367
sounds good >>4798459

>>4798486
Looting Attila's grave for catalyst?

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>>4798486
Shirou can make her sword.
We just need to make sure not get blasted by ion cannon for attempting it. Should not be that hard to do. She can also steal that sash for herself.
>>4798487
Avalon would work. Or something other that`s belonged purely to Artoria.
I doubt he can replicate Rhongo. Well, maybe super shitty bootleg copy.

Theoretically, can't we skip this makeshift catalyst thing, and have Betty create an empty Lartoria or Altera body based on our memories to summon the HS into, as a perfect catalyst+readymade incarnation?
Since she wouldnt have to actually replicate any souls or minds.
This may noot be a good idea, but any specific reason?

>>4798367
>even if it served no real purpose."
That was kinda harsh, man

>>4798498
It was a little bit harsh, but "Served no real purpose" as in Rin got nothing out of it, and it wouldn't have made the slightest bit of difference to Rin if she lived or died.

>>4798459
+1

>>4798503
yeah, I know, but still, telling this as an offhand remark to her face...
Well, I wonder if meeting the three Rins face to face will make Prime reconsider her consideration of her other selves compared her awareness before. I imagine this would all put some strain on her.

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>Wearing it greatly increases the user's Divinity, Strength, Endurance, Agility, and Mana parameters. Its strength cannot exceed a certain point due to Mystery in modern society being weak.
>Gilgamesh has called the sash a "legacy a god forced on humans." Hippolyta and Alcides' use of the sash greatly differs from one another. Hippolyta primarily uses it to empower herself by surging the energy in the sash throughout her body. Even with the power limited due to the amount of Mystery in the modern age, it is still a formidable Noble Phantasm. Its power is enough to allow Hippolyta to cause an eruption with a single punch.
>Penthesilea also possesses the sash, wearing it around her waist rather than on either arm. However, it is uncertain whether the sash she holds is the same one possessed by her older sister, Hippolyta.
>While Alcides does make use of the sash, he only allows its energy to imbue and strengthen his weapons.
With her two two skills and how she likes to make Ares/Mars seethe all the time she probably can steal sash if she gets her hands on it even without concept. It`s also works really well with her skillset.
>Civilization Erosion (EX Rank): A subconsciously active Skill of the Heroic Spirit Altera. Anything in Altera's grasp is transformed into its best form currently most suited for herself. This is based on Altera's own perspective, not necessarily reflecting the object at its greatest or most excellent. In this case, anything within Altera's grasp is transformed into the Photon Ray sword, an ability shared by her Moon counterpart, who additionally can summon the sword at will.
>Crest of the Star (EX Rank): The unique pattern imprinted on Altera's body, a strange design that does not belong to the Huns but resulted from some advanced ritual. The higher the rank, the higher one's attack power is increased. By expending mana through it, Altera can temporarily enhance the performance of any desired part of the body. An efficient Skill that costs little mana but lacks the explosiveness of Skills like Mana Burst. In addition, this unique Skill also has the effects of the Instinct Skill - since it felt like it was missing a little something.
With right Concept she can get herself her own Knight of Owner Noble Phantasm. And we can supply her all kinds of weapons.
Her wish is also super easy to fulfill.

And WhatIs really likes Altera too and wanted her to show up. Which means he has really good taste.

>>4798516
>yeah, I know, but still, telling this as an offhand remark to her face...
Zero Rin didn't really think anything of it.
She's smart enough to realize how timelines work, considering she was just in a room with three other versions of herself and an older version of her sister.
Also you're kind of... not always the best at empathy.

So is a lostbelt a timeline thats about to be pruned? So is mash and her husbando go around pruning them? I don't play f\go obviously.

>>4798531
I wish it were that simple.
A lostbelt is a world that shouldn't exist due to being way too divergent but exists thanks to magical tree tentacles.
You go around purging these worlds and all the people in them.

Nothing in FGO is properly on the level of the Second True Magic.

Just realised.
Altera can also be classified as vorechad because how Velber and Sefar are going about things.
Her skills for overtaking things, breaking them down and adapting for herself are easily just that.

>>4798531
Lostbelt is "supposed to be pruned but for some reason (eg: outside assistance, various bullshit) isn't, and persists."

>>4798537
Pandora's Box in Prillya basically also has a Lostbelt in it. Since it wasn't opened, the possibilities sat inside it and gestated into a complete World that Darius wants to use for...reasons.

>>4798367
You know what. Changing >>4798382
to >>4798459
That's fine. It's the same thing with more letting her decide.

I hope we can summon altera, girl just wants to be something that isnt a warrior.

>>4798598
We'll make her a wife and mother Test

You reassuringly pat the top of Rin's head, and she frowns a little. Apparently not liking the somewhat condescending act. She also doesn't really know you very well, so you suppose you can understand her current dislike of physical contact with you. Well, it was by your request that she was saved, so she might end up warming up to you a little bit after thinking things through. I might've been a little cruel to say that there was no purpose to saving her, but at the end of the day there wasn't really much of a point, there's still going to be plenty of timelines where Rin wasn't saved, and even this Rin should understand that. It's impossible to save every possible version of somebody unless you cross a few lines that you'd really rather not cross. You'll just have to pretend that those other timelines don't exist as you aren't observing them... or something.

"Rin, this is a decision that only you can make, and I can only offer you a few options... I don't want you to feel at all pressured by the options I'm going to offer you though." You decide that it might be better to try to keep the kid gloves on after all, you're kind of so used to dealing with your Rin that you might've just forgotten for a moment that this is just a little girl, who is probably only putting on a brave face right now. It must be pretty terrifying to know that you were only saved from certain death on what was effectively a whim.

"Fine. Go ahead and tell me these options then." Young Rin looks like she'd trying to get a proper read on you. She's been playing with your daughters, so you can only hope that might've done some good at potentially calming Rin down a little, to be able to talk with girls that are closer to her in age who are also capable of extraordinary feats of magic must be... well, quite relieving to Rin.

"Well, first, I could offer to adopt you. Or you could be adopted by your older self. I'm sure she wouldn't say no to it... You see, the thing is, the timeline that you came from... it's probably going to end up with your dad dying and your mother becoming mentally handicapped. Tokiomi Tohsaka only... his survival of the Fourth Grail War is something with a very slim possibility. If you return to your time... that is." You say with a sad tone. As manipulative as this feels, it's very much true. If Rin returns, then Tokiomi probably dies. Even if you take steps against it.

"W-what?" Rin sounds bewildered by your words.

"By my calculations, Tokiomi Tohsaka is far more likely to survive the Fourth Grail War if you stay here, at least for some time, in fact..." You look Rin in the eyes. "If you stay here, then Sakura will probably be saved." The moment Tokiomi realizes that Rin is gone, he'll realize that he needs an heir still, and he'd be a fool to pass up on Sakura with her magical talent. It would be a major setback to the Tohsaka, of course, but Sakura is still a potentially tremendously powerful magus in her own right.

"Saved...? What do you mean? Isn't she being trained to become the next Matou heir?" Rin sounds confused, and she tilts her head at you. This is going to be quite painful to explain to a little girl, so you decide it might be the best to give Rin the most... sanitized option that you can right now. She's only an eight year old, so she doesn't really need to hear the specifics right now.

"Not even in the slightest." You say with a voice that can barely suppress your anger at Zouken. "Sakura is being raised by Zouken as a Holy Grail, he intends to use her as a sacrifice in order to achieve Heaven's Feel. Sakura... She's not going to be made into the Matou heir at all. No, she's being subjected to torturous treatments. That's why... That's why I ask you that even if you want to return, you wait at least a year or so. Which... brings me onto my other option for you. I'd have you receive the best possible training you can for the decade you have until the Fifth Holy Grail War begins. At that time, I'll have you sent back to your home timeline in order to take care of everything there. This would... This would be like an extended learning camp... or something. You'd be receiving tutoring from instructors beyond even the Clock Tower for ten years... Or whenever you feel like you are ready to return." Now, that seems to have gotten Rin's attention.

"Really...? You'd... You'd offer me something like that?" It seems like the idea of being taught by people beyond even the Clocktower has managed to get Rin's attention, that compounded by the idea of being able to return whenever she feels like has managed to properly get Rin's interest. "I'll be the judge of your magecraft teacher, and I'll... I'll think about whether I want to be adopted by somebody while I'm here."

"Of course, take your time deciding. Think about it and only give me your answer when you're sure. Your future self or the future self of your sister might show up to talk with you about it, and... well, they'd know you better than I know you, so they'd probably have some opinions on the matter." You smile at the girl. Even though this Rin doesn't know you at all, it's still Rin, and it's very easy to see how this little girl grew into the young woman you know.

"I... alright, I'll do that then." Young Rin is still putting on a brave face, clearly she doesn't trust you completely at this point. Which is actually kind of wise. Most magi would instill a lesson not to trust the magi of other families in any circumstances, which is totally fine considering that most magi would see somebody like Rin and decide to try to turn her into a potion or a mystic code or something. Magi of Rin's potential are, after all, very potent magical ingredients. Not that you'd ever stoop to such a level, but that's just how a magus would think.

"Good. Tell me when you've come to your decision, but... right now I want you to come with me. I need your help to prank somebody. His name is Archer. He knows you in the future, and is reaaaal uptight. I think you might enjoy being able to play a prank on somebody like him." Honestly, it's mostly for your own entertainment, but Rin will probably end up enjoying being able to pull a prank on somebody too, even if that's not really her sort of personality, she's still a kid, and should find some amusement in it.

"If you say so." Rin doesn't sound entirely convinced by your offer to prank somebody, then again, it's probably just because she doesn't know EMIYA yet. She'll definitely understand the need to prank the Counter Guardian later on. Especially if you tell her how much he lies to her for his own goals. "What exactly do you want me to do?"

>"I'm going to need you to pretend to just be Rin after having accidentally de-aged yourself."
>"I'm going to need you to pretend to be Rin's daughter."
>"I'm going to need you to pretend to be the Rin from this timeline, pretend not to notice you're uh... eight."
>"I want you to meet Archer with the rest of the girls and say that I adopted you."
>Write-in...

>>4798691
>"I'm going to need you to pretend to be the Rin from this timeline, pretend not to notice you're uh... eight."
>"I want you to meet Archer with the rest of the girls and say that I adopted you."
This will work great together.
>"What are you talking about, Archer? Rin was always a little girl and now I am just adopting her because she need a guardian."

>>4798691
>>4798698
+1

>>4798691

Hmm... won't Archer immediately see through the prank due to his Servant bond? He should definitely be able to immediately realize this Rin is different from his Master.
Most we can hope for is convince him she's actually his and he needs to take responsibility.
Rin might have even told him what happened.

>>4798698
>>4798691
+1, this can be funny

>>4798691
>>4798698
+1

>>4798691
>>4798698
+1

>>4798698
+1 build up the memeing

>>4798691
>>4798698
Actually, I rephrase it a bit to reflect prank better.
>"I'm going to need you to pretend to be the Rin from this timeline. Try to do small chat with me about Second Magic and how you managed to make a new breakthrough with it."
>"We will meet Archer with the rest of the girls and say that I adopted you because you needed a new legal guardian after Kirei died yesterday."

>>4798691
>>4798698
>>4798714
This lmao

>>4798714
Support

>>4798704
>Hmm... won't Archer immediately see through the prank due to his Servant bond?
Yes he will. He'll be startled for a moment at worst.

>>4798691
change >>4798703
to
>>4798714

>>4798691
fuck it, change vote from >>4798712 to >>4798714

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Why do you want to prank EMIYA so much anyway?

>>4798742
Bc they're dicks

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>>4798749
But it's hardly a mean-spirited prank.
Unless you mean EMIYA is a dick, and he kind of is.

>>4798742
It's fun to mess with a guy trying to act edgy.

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>>4798742
It's funny to make the cool edgy guy lose his composure.

>>4798742
Its funny to prank and fluster the edgy man

>>4798691
>>4798714
Support lmao

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Regarding Concept for Altera if we end up summoning her. I have three ideas:
1. Indomitability
>Incapable of being overcome, subdued, or vanquished; unconquerable.
As definition go. Altera`s main struggle in Extella was influence of Velber and Archimedes with her nature as Sefar and urge to destroy taking her over and robbing her of her personality. She has this quality in her but only channel it rarely due to life circumstances as both Sefar and Attila. This should guard her against all bad influence on her and bolster her ability to withstand just about anything. Helps her withstand her own urges as war and destruction too so it would be easier for her to be something other than tool of destruction if she puts her mind into it.
2. Assimilation
This one is pretty obvious. She has ability to do so and it will help her to fight off and take over things that try to attack her. While this one do not help her personality apart from granting her ability to fight back better it is not a deal breaker as Altera in Extella mastered strength to resist control over her on her own. With a faith in her ability to do so from Hakuno.
This should make be able to get something like Knight of Owner.
3. Creation
Despite being forces of Destruction she has very good aptitude in creating things to serve her from spoils of war. Big Altera created heroic spirit Altera and small Altera was also created this way. With Sefar being used to create Valkyries this also should allow her to do something like that. Being born as part of Velber with all knowledge and powers it has should make similar manipulation for her rather easy too. We can also provide all necessary memories like we did for Shirou. It also helps with her fixation on being tool of Destruction and wish to try and be something else as this will show her clear path to other way of living, she will enjoy to try.
This should make her be able to have her own Unlimited Blade Works.
>>4798742
He likes to pretend to be brooding anti-hero and should easy up a little.
This joke should also help him to understand that he needs to go and talk to Kerry, Illya and Shirou instead of whatever the fuck he is planning to do right now. If Rin was able to do it so should he. It will be good for him to reflect on this.

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What won?

>>4798801
You

>>4798790
My preference would be Assimilation or Conquering as taking over+her War thematics to take over Velber instead of the other way around.

I still think we should also ask Aoko if she could tell us what Magic Blue can even do if we have the opportunity. Especially since I remembered one of her moves in Melty was "Retroflow/Genesis Light Year" ala Goetia, while it is said that doesnt purely seem to be time travel in Mahoyo.

>>4798801
The one with the most votes

>>4798801
This >>4798698

>>4798790
Do we even want to summon Altera now? There are two more HGW coming and Labyrinth will very much be more personal with the few servants we summon

>>4798801
>>4798698
>>4798714
This. I just rephrased it in the second post to show general direction I meant in the first one. I think they are both the same thing.

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>>4798790
Really like Altera's design, but I dunno why.
Don't know much of anything about her other than fgo. Other than she's supposed to be super op.

>>4798801
>>4798698
This

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>>4798809
Thank you.

>>4798812
She was my first 5 star so I have a soft spot for her.

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>>4798812
I like the way huke draws eyes.

>>4798822
Not only is QM a Sacchin and Ereshbro, he’s also an Alterabro

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>>4798822
>>4798821
I think its how she always looks so calm. She's relaxing to look at.

>>4798830
Also her skin and belly

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>>4798824
>>4798830
I like huke's art a lot because it both has a real charm to it and reminds me of my other favourite VN.

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>>4798805
No real preference between this three for me. I think all of them work well and fit her.
Creation might have higher ceiling, Assimilation make her scarier opponent and Indomitability should work similarly how Self-Determination worked for Suzuka. All good.
>>4798810
If we are going to summon somebody she is pretty good candidate. WhatIs mentioned it here >>4798431 so he might have an idea or two prepared for extra summons.
I think we are fine strength-wise now but who knows how things will go.
>>4798812
You should give Extella and Extella Link a try you like her. She has really nice story arc in Extella. And Link just add some extra but she plays lesser part in it.

>>4798839
Ah yeah, another thing I always say I'll watch later and never do.

>>4798851
Don't, madoka did it better.

>>4798851
Read it.
Don't watch it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s88RcKhPLo8

>>4798852
I didn't care for Madoka. It was alright, but I don't see the reason it gets so much praise.

>>4798830
I think it's the character of her clothes. They aren't generic and is related to about her orgin. As opposed to just a generic suit.

>>4798830
I like her voice, way or speak and design

>>4798742
Because at the end of the day, no matter how badass he tries to be, he's still our best bud Shirou.
And if we can't prank our bros, who can we prank?

>>4798855
I just watched madoka first then steins and just liked madoka more. Maybe the vn is better.

>>4798866
Vn is better since its not trying to cram 40 hrs worth of content in 24 eps. Too much exposition at times tho.

>>4798742
because redman needs to chill a little.

>>4798830
I really like her personality and design.
>>4798839
Few times I ever bothered to buy merch was because of his art as a final deciding factor.

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>>4798839
Yeah, Suzuha is best.

>>4798881
based

>>4798881
This scene always makes me laugh.
All attempting this would do is get Okabe's ass handed to him and then she'd realize what he was doing anyway.
I guess he didn't consider that because he was losing his mind, but he saw her take out multiple armed men with little difficulty already.
And yes, Suzuha is best along with Faris.

>>4798815
Senpai, will there be an interlude of Tokiyomi POV where he panics because Rin is missing and Gil and Kirei react to him in amusement?

>>4798839
I always knew you were a man of excellent taste.

>>4798853
Why not both? The anime was pretty good too.

>>4798896
Alright, not excellent taste, but good enough at least.

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>>4798921
Forgot to attach pic.

>>4798922
I mostly just like Faris because of her ending being the coolest to me.
Suzuha is real best girl but specifically Alpha worldline Suzuha, Beta Suzuha is worse.
That's not to say I dislike any of the girls.
Except Kagari in 0.
God she's just the worst.

>>4798921
Seconded. And maybe another where Tokiomi sees the wormpit while Gil destroys Zouken?

>>4798921
>>4798926
worst case scenario, little Sakura will end up living with us too, best case scenario, we guaranteed an alternate universe Shirou a comfy harem slice of life

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But if we end up with Lancer Alter I strongly suggest empowering her Wild Hunt aspect. It has insane amount of syncretism going for it. From Odin to primordial spirits of nature. And not only it is part of every european culture but many asians have similar things as well. It would make Iskandar`s army look like a joke.
Best suggestion for it I have are hunt, host or winter.
>>4798921
>>4798931
This sound really fun.
I am still really interested in that Rin Matou we didn`t get too.

>>4798931
Nasu has said he wouldn't have given a shit as long as Zouken was actually teaching her.
That fact he wasn't would be the only problem.

>>4798939
From his perspective and with Rin missing Zouken just fucked up his only heir.

>>4798942
he'll just erase those memories or some shit and be done with it

>>4798948
>Rin comes back 5 years later and realizes her dad was a piece of shit.
>Kills him herself.

>>4798948
Is he just going to erase the fact that her hair and eyes are the wrong color too?
Or that her element is wrong?

>>4798951
based

>>4798953
look man, if whats his name can hypnotize Shiki into thinking he's his biological son and a Tohno, I think Tokiomi can come up with something similar

>>4798948
Sometimes I forget how shit most of magi are.
Little Rin is really better off with us.
>>4798953
>will fail to create another heir
>will treat little Sakura as total failure and disgrace and hope to get her to marry somebody who will make her produce "proper heir" in the next generation and "fix" his bloodline
Vritra, get the maze.

>>4798957
Shiki was a 'somewhat' normal boy at the time.
Hypnosis tends to work far worse on people with their own magic circuits. Especially when you're as talented as Sakura is.

>>4798961
Good think Kirei kills him just a few days after he rescues Sakura. Ironically, Kotomine is a better guardian than Tokiomi.

>>4798962
Its heavily implied that Shiki both has circuits has high quality ones too though

>>4798971
Thing is, why would Tokiomi even want to hypnotize Sakura?

>>4798971
Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything if they aren't actually activated.

>>4798974
not really want to deal with his daughter's trauma after getting worm'd

New Carnival idea.
Zero Rin speedrunning all the threats after we send her back with all the inside knowledge and stuff we taught and gave her.

>>4798982
Imagine her Redman

"OK, so here's what I need you to do, first I want you to pretend that you're the exact same Rin from this timeline." You begin to plot your scheme to prank Archer. Of course, as a Servant, he should be able to immediately confirm whether the Rin in front of him is his master or not, but even so, sometimes when surprised, common sense like that will take quick leave of even the most straight-laced of people.

"Huh? Why...? And... Isn't she much older than me? Won't he just see through that immediately? Or... is he blind?" Rin tilts her head to the side, genuinely curious as to what exactly you want to prank Archer with here. She hasn't quite realized that you want her to pretend despite her age.

"Oh no, he's certainly not blind. In fact, he's got some of the best eyesight out of everyone I know." Rin just looks more confused by that. "No, that's not the sort of prank we're going to play on him, that would just be mean-spirited. No, I want you to try to say something like you had 'A new break-through with the Second True Magic' and how you were always this age through manipulating your own origin because of it when we're in earshot of Archer... If I know him, he's probably loitering around the kitchen, or hopelessly standing watch." Though considering that Karna should be on guard, that's kind of pointless, so it's pretty likely that Archer has taken up doing something else for now. Nobody likes to be made to feel inferior, after all.

"That sounds a little complicated, but... Alright. I don't really know much about the Second True Magic beyond what papa told me about it, but I... I know enough, I... I think. He told me once that one day, Zelretch might be so impressed with me that he'd make me the true inheritor of the Second!" Well, Tokiomi might not have been wrong on that. Rin forging the Kaleidosword shows that she very much has that potential, and other than Zelretch himself, is clearly the most powerful wielder of the Second True Magic in... well, you'd hazard a guess to say the entire multiverse... At least in this point in time. It might change in the far future, it might not.

"That's great! Now... the next part of the prank... well, I don't know how you'll feel about pretending that I adopted you, but it will make the look on his face that much funnier!" You try to convince the young girl to go along with your prank, and for a moment she looks uncertain, but...

"Come on! Papa is a good person!" Alítheia butts into the conversation. "I'm sure that you'd enjoy even being adopted properly! Without having to pretend! My other sisters do!" The young dragon girl smiles happily at Rin. Seemingly trying to convince her to agree to being properly adopted by you.

"Alítheia is right. Our father is... Well, if you're going to be staying with us for some time, you'd probably be much happier if you just asked him to adopt you!" Betty joins in on the attempt to convince Rin to become your adoptive daughter, and you understand that things might just get... well, a little bit strange if she actually agrees. Oh well, it's not like things aren't already quite strange anyway, so it's not like it would really be much of a change of speed for you. You don't really know how Your Rin is going to feel about things if you actually end up adopting her younger self though.

"Thank you girls, but that's a decision that Rin will have to make herself." You stop the girls from trying to peer pressure Rin into accepting you as her father. She obviously hasn't even considered the notion of getting over Tokiomi yet, and while Tokiomi was kind of a piece of trash, Rin still loved him, as is natural for a child to love their parent. "So... what do you say?"

"I mean... I suppose it... couldn't hurt." Rin hesitantly accepts the idea of the prank, excellent. You can't wait to see the look on Archer's face!

"Great! Now that's out of the way, here's what we're going to do! Everyone here is going to come with us, and we're going to make sure that Archer overhears us talking about how Rin needed a new legal guardian after Kirei died yesterday, so I adopted her! You all understand?" You receive nods from all of the girls in the room, and the fox pup barks. Looks like the pup also understands, you guess? The only one in the room that doesn't make any real act of understanding you is the snake coiled around one of Alítheia's horns, and that's because it looks like it's asleep. Huh, did it get slightly bigger again? "Alright, everyone, let's go looking for Archer. Oh! And Rin, call me Makiri-kun, let's add to the confusion." Rin looks slightly vexed at the mention of Kirei's death, but seems to think no more on it. The two weren't ever especially close. Kirei is... well, awful with children.

It doesn't take you and your assembled gang of children long at all to find Archer, especially as you were completely right about his current location. Standing in one of your dining rooms and looking at the attached kitchen, clearly admiring the design and high quality of the many appliances you paid top dollar for. Or... well, Yen, but it's a figure of speech.

Now's the time. "So, Rin, was your experiment in the Second True Magic really this successful? Haven't you always been this age?" You ask the small girl walking at your side.

"Oh, that's just it, Makiri-kun! Because of my experiment, I've always been this age! In fact, with the changes to the timeline, you only met me a few days ago!" Rin says with a playful voice, happy to play along with your prank. "Still, I... I wasn't expecting it to be this effective... I only wanted to become a year or two younger, but... I guess being adopted by you isn't all that bad!" She's playing her part perfectly. You glance briefly over in Archer's direction, giving him a brief nod, he's trying to keep the blatant confusion out of his face as his brain attempts to add things up that simply don't make sense.

"Well, that's alright, Rin. Honestly, for a moment, I was really worried about you! But anyway, I think I should create something nice for everyone in celebration!" You say to the group as you walk into the kitchen, straight past the Archer who is focusing on the tiny Rin. You begin to rifle through the cupboards, keeping an eye on the clearly shocked man as you do. Eventually, you decide to just give everyone some ice cream instead of cooking anything, they didn't have breakfast that long ago, after all, and while it might not be good parenting to give your daughters ice cream randomly, you'll do what you want, and screw anybody who says otherwise.

You get a little bit carried away with making all the girls an ice cream sundae each, though you keep talking to the girls as you do. "Sakura might think it's a bit odd, being her sister's mother... but then again, with Tiamat within her, that's... kind of the case anyway, I guess?" It's kind of funny how that works out, oh well, Sakura seems to have Tiamat almost entirely under her control, even when she draws upon Tiamat's power, it's never that difficult for her to reign the mother goddess back in. Even if her first time drawing on Tiamat's power was a little bit worrisome, she seems to have things under control now. You also carelessly let slip that you're at some point planning to marry Sakura, just to further confuse Archer.

You quickly finish making the ice cream sundaes, and bring them out for everyone at the table. Of course, you even make one for the snake coiled around Alítheia's horn as well as the fox pup. "Enjoy, everyone!" You smile at the girls, who quickly start to eat the ice cream. The snake slides off of Alítheia horn and dangles down to eat its own ice cream by lapping at it with its tongue. It's... strangely cute.

"OK, that's quite enough of this, Shinji, would you mind telling me what's going on? This is some sort of illusion, right?" Archer seems to be very confused. "I mean... I know that Rin can't be in this room, I can feel where she is through our link, but... That's... That's definitely Rin!" Archer tries to reason things out, but is very much incapable of doing so.

>"What do you mean Archer? This is Rin. My daughter!"
>"You're acting weird again, Shirou. Go see your dad. He's in Illya's room."
>"Huh? What are you talking about? Are your memories alright, Archer?"
>"You've seen nothing yet, Shirou, old buddy."
>Just stare at Archer and smirk. Do not break eye contact.
>Write-in...

>>4799001

>"What do you mean Archer? This is Rin. My daughter!"
>"You're acting weird again, Shirou. Go see your dad. He's in Illya's room."
>"Huh? What are you talking about? Are your memories alright, Archer?"
>"You've seen nothing yet, Shirou, old buddy."

Thanks for bringing up S;G, QM, now I'm listening to Gate of Steiner and wallowing in melancholy.
I don't even want to prank Archer anymore, I just want everyone to be happy.
Also Kurisu-tina best girl.

>>4799001
>"You're acting weird again, Archer. Go see your dad. He's in Illya's room."
Didnt he ask us to not reveal who he is to anyone else?

>>4799001
>>"What do you mean Archer? This is Rin. My daughter!"
>>"Huh? What are you talking about? Are your memories alright, Archer?"
>>"You're acting weird again, Shirou. Go see your dad. He's in Illya's room."
This flows really good

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>>4799004
>Also Kurisu-tina best girl.
Good taste.
Never listen to a single episode of the dub even as a joke.
It will ruin her forever.

>>4799004
Agreed anon.

And let's not call Archer Shirou in front of the little chatterboxes, we promised to keep his secret.

>>4799001
>Stare at Archer and smirk for whole time. Do not break eye contact.
>"What do you mean Archer? This is Rin. My daughter!"
>"Huh? What are you talking about? Are your memories alright, Archer?"
>"Go see your dad. He's in Illya's room."

>>4799001
>Just stare at Archer and smirk. Do not break eye contact.
>Burst out laughing. Just a prank, bro
>"Go see your Rin, she'll explain everything."
>"And you should know that Kiritsugu is back in his body, with Illya and Shirou."

Rin Prime will laugh too when Archer asks her. Let's spread the joy.

>>4799001
change >>4799006
to
>>4799013

>>4799001
>>4799013
Support.

>>4798999
>Sakura might think it's a bit odd, being her sister's mother
Gonna get weirder when we make Rin take care of little Rin too

>>4799001
>>4799013
+1

>>4799022
This family tree is going to look like a spiderweb.

>>4799024
very British of us to turn a family tree into a circle

>>4799025
Circle is too simple anon. Spiderweb is better. Fractal would be best.

>>4799001
>>Just stare at Archer and smirk. Do not break eye contact.

Give him one of the ShinjiCreep™ smiles

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>>4799031
>headpats Archer

>>4799025
its going to be a Tesseract at this rate

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>>4799028
>>4799037
future family tree

>>4799001
>>4799013
Support

>>4799042
MUCH too simple. Not even taking into account our future biological sons getting attracted to our adopted daughters.

>>4799042
The guy in the chart is such a chad he not only fucks his daughters but also his grandaughters as well. We need to learn from him.

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>>4799048

>>4799048
he did it enough to the point where he straight up cloned himself

>>4799048
I'll make it happen

>>4799042
I need some statistics on this chart and the effects of doing this does.

>>4799001
>>4799013
Support

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Calling in 15

>>4799008
I thought we werent blowing his cover too hard

Just call him Mr. High Jump or something

>>4799070
doesn't really matter since my vote isn't gonna win

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>>4799003
>>4799012

>>4799008

>>4799031


>>4799013
>>4799020
>>4799021
>>4799023
>>4799043
>>4799063
>Just stare at Archer and smirk. Do not break eye contact.
>Burst out laughing. Just a prank, bro
>"Go see your Rin, she'll explain everything."
>"And you should know that Kiritsugu is back in his body, with Illya and Shirou."

This wins.

Also, what are we doing next, since Archer will leave the room? Is calling Waver next?

>>4799081
Sure, you can call Waver next.

>>4799083
Well, that's what the schedule says.

>>4799083
Is Sakura gonna kill Shinji once she learns he disobeyed her orders?

>>4799090
No, she's just going to make a sad face at you.

>>4799090
We're just calling him to check if he's ok, for peace of mind.
Is Sakura really going to be sad for a 5 minute phone call?

>>4799090
Sakura ordered us not to meet with Waver. She said nothing about calling. And she'll forgive us easily, she's too similar to us. She can't be happy unless we're happy, and we can't be happy unless our friends are happy. And Waver is very much not happy while he's worrying about Gray.

Not to mention that the whole Morrigan thing or the Rinfest were way, way, WAY worse than just calling Waver.

>>4799096
You're honestly full of shit when you complain about everyone not caring about Sakura’s feelings

>>4799135
Was this maybe supposed to be addressed to me?

>>4799151
Yes

>>4799151
Confirmed she going to make a sad face so Shinji better hide in the bathroom or something.

>>4799153
Well then. Let's review today, shall we?

>Used Sakura's deepest fears to get her to accept equality in the harem
This hurt Sakura. Deeply. She almost cried.
>Pushing to fight Morrigan
Exactly the thing she told us not to do today: Life or death situation. Work. She's definitely upset.
>Rinfest
Not exactly relaxing. She's probably somewhat upset that we did something this stressful, but at least it wasn't really work for us.
>Quick call to a friend to make sure he's ok
Not work. Not stressful at all. Makes a friend happier. She might be a tiny bit upset that we prioritized someone else again, but she'll definitely understand. It's what we always do, and what she always does.

Have I helped you understand the differences, anon?

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>"Why can't you think about yourself for once, Onii-chan?"

You stare at Archer for a time, sitting at the table and just making nothing but silent eye contact with the red garbed Servant for a great deal of time, at least until it starts visibly frustrating him that nobody is answering his question. Seriously, this is hilarious, but... well, you can't just keep this up forever, especially because it will only take Archer as long as it takes him to remember he can mentally communicate to Rin to end your little facade and ruin the prank, so after remaining in direct eye contact with Archer for a long enough period, you burst out laughing.

"Hahahahahaha!" Archer is... less than pleased at your sudden mirth, and looks downright annoyed that you're now laughing at him. "Ah... Right, it... It was just a prank, bro." You say with the smuggest grin you can possibly manage. "Now, if you want answers, then I suggest you go see your Rin, she'll explain things much better than I can." An expression of understanding appears on Archer's face, and he starts to leave the room. "Oh! And go see Illya as well, Kiritsugu is back in his normal body right now! I feel like you might want to have a few words with him!" You yell out after the white haired man.

"Yeah, I'll go do that. Thanks, Shinji." He keeps his voice calm as he leaves the room. Hiding his previous annoyance and irritation quite well as he goes off to get to the bottom of this, well... he'll probably realize that it's got to do with the Second True Magic anyway, he's not that dense, and he'd almost certainly prefer getting to see his father once again than he would have Rin deliver some exposition to him. He's probably had enough of Rin delivering exposition to him for a lifetime, after all, and considering just who he is, younger alternate selves should be something he's familiar enough with.

You're a little annoyed by the fact that his confusion didn't last for longer, but you suppose that when it comes to somebody like Archer, actually keeping him baffled or bewildered for more than a few minutes is very difficult indeed. He's quite a logical person, except when Shirou is involved, at least, but hey, nobody is perfect.

"Well, girls, enjoying your ice cream?" You decide to focus on something else now that Archer is gone. It was amusing to pull the prank on the man, and you feel like you could've kept it going for longer, but it wouldn't really have been amusing if you just kept it going for that long. You receive happy nods from the girls, which seems to annoy the snake currently dangling from one of Alítheia's horns, disrupting its efforts to actually consume the frozen treat. You don't exactly know why you prepared a sundae for the snake, but the fact that it seems to be enjoying it is evidence enough that it's more than intelligent enough, so you're glad you did so anyway.

"I don't really get why you wanted to play a prank on that man..." Young Rin just muses as she too eats her ice cream.

"I just wanted to get him to lighten up a little, Rin. Archer is the sort of person to pretend that he's far tougher than he actually is, and I want him to stop pretending to be something that he isn't." Honestly, even with all the emotional trauma that he's gone through, at the core of his being, Archer is very much still Shirou Emiya, and no amount of killing or attempting to hide that truth will ever change that. "Sometimes, hiding who you truly are can hurt the ones you care about more than anything else." Like say, pretending not to even know who Sakura is. Hopefully Rin will take this lesson to heart. "Now, I've got to make a phone call real quick."

"What's a phone call?" Rin asks innocently.

"..." You look at Rin for a moment, almost in disbelief at her complete lack of technology knowledge. Of course, she'd be even worse than your own Rin! "It's a... uh... It's a communications device, think of it as a sort of... advanced two way connection Mystic Code that transmits voice over a long distance through the use of space-based mediums." You explain things in a needlessly over complicated manner, but...

"Oh! That makes sense! That sounds like a powerful Mystic Code!" Rin says, quite cheerfully. It looks like no matter what else, the prank and the ice cream have made her feel a little bit better about being here in the first place, it seems. Good, at least she's not having a bad time being here, you don't want to send her home just yet, but you also don't want her feeling like her time here is as a prisoner.

"Haha... Yeah, anyway..." You take your phone out of your pocket and dial Waver's cell. Hopefully he actually picks up this time.

The phone dials once. Then twice. Then on the third dial, somebody picks up.

"Oh, is that you Shinji?" Waver's voice has a hint of subdued panic and worry to it. "Things got... a little hectic last night... huh?" Waver sounds just a little guilty. "I... I think I already know what you're going to ask." The man on the other end of the call sighs.

>"Waver, do you know where everyone is right now?"
>"Waver, can you tell me the identity of the Servants you had summoned?"
>"Is Gray alright? Do you know where she is?"
>"Do you want to come see me? I might've happened to have captured Iskandar..."
>"What were you thinking?"
>Write-in...

>>"Waver, do you know where everyone is right now?"
>>"Is Gray alright? Do you know where she is?"
>>"Waver, can you tell me the identity of the Servants you had summoned?"
>>"I have something I wanted to show you but it's going to have to wait. I'll meet you tomorrow the first chance I get, I'm otherwise occupied for the day."
Thoughts?

Oh boy, we can mold this Rin into the only one that can use technology!

>>4799174
>"Waver, do you know where everyone is right now?"
>"Is Gray alright? Do you know where she is?"
>"She's alive, Caster told me so. We'll get her back, don't worry."
>""You should come see me tomorrow. I might've happened to have captured Iskandar... But definitely not today. I can't help him today. Please don't insist. You waited for ten years, you can wait for a day. I promise you'll talk to him tomorrow."
"How are you holding up?"

Everything else is work related and can wait until tomorrow.

>>4799185
An excellent idea to finally get Rin Prime to understand how to use a DVD. And with Rin Prime's and Para's tutelage from such a young age, this Rin might even come to rival Prime in the future.

>>4799185
>little Rin bullying her mother/future self because she can't use a DVR
Soon(tm)

>>4799193
Rin Prime can use the 2nd to learn everything another Rin knows, anon.

Last update for the day, WhatIs?

>>4799195
>Rin Prime getting bullied because she needed to steal knowledge from a little girl to use a DVR
Soon(tm)

>>4799174
>>Write-in...
"I'm gonna beat your ass if Gray dies okay?"

>>4799197
Mhmm

>>4799195
Even so, this just means that Rin will be able to use a single specific brand of DVR.
The moment she encounters one of a different layout is the moment she starts pushing buttons at random.

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It's a shame that you made Ereshkigal faint by flirting at her too hard, she would've loved to have been able to discuss ideas for her new underworld with you.

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>>4799215
We can wait until she wakes up.
Is the big hole next to the Eiznbern mansion that Zolgen was using still there? I'm sure Ilya won't mind letting her set new Kur there.

>>4799221
Just use it on Manaka to move the very destructive fight away from the city. We just need to fuel her with enough power that her NP creates a new underworld.

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I'm curious, if all of the Servants (Specifically Servants) in your faction fought, who do you think would win?
No Sakura doesn't count.

>>4799249
Probably Enkidu if he counts.

Once we rescue gray are we going to add her to the harem?

>>4799249
Gilgamesh if he doesn't job.
So maybe Gorgon Medusa or Enkidu.

>>4799257
no

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Rinfest is over.
Now post Sakura.

>>4799249
Is Vritra's Vajra A+ STR level or A+ NP with the slightest touch?

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>>4799286

>>4799293
Yeah, they are basically heat-seeking missiles that she only needs to touch gently to make target whatever she wants.

>>4799293
and A+ NP level.

>>4799303
Then its basically Vritra vs Enkidu to see if he can become a chain that can bind her, as she can blow everyone up too fast, and both are immortal. Stalemate or Enkidu win still. Liberation is really good for clay.

>>4799315
I wonder if you'd still think that if you knew everyone's currently unknown NPs

>>4799321
I have no idea, since Supreme Nobu, Chiyome etc are still ???

>>4799326
Saver Nero's too.
Well, somewhat.
Surprised you aren't more interested in asking about them or guessing about them.

>>4799328
I also want to ask about Aoko's Magic, the NPs and just what some can do in general (Does Nero know magecraft? What can Scath runes do, can she do the Death Rune?), but schedule is packed and I can't speculate as it could be anything once concepts/bullshit came in.

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tfw billy still out and about, completely lost on what all is happening around him, and everyone else is getting powerups.

My boy gets no love. NO LOVE!

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>>4799286
cursed Tohsaka Sakura

>>4799379
Delete this

>>4799379
>cursed
Are you sure

>>4799249
Enkidu is essentially unkillable

>>4799180
>>4799174
+1

>>4799174
>>4799180
Support.

(Man not a lot of votes right now huh. Then again it is night time for most people)

>>4799180
support

>>4799215
An it really be called flirting when it was a genuine expression to grant her her desire and to let her do something she should be good at?

>>4799174
>>4799180
Support

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>>4799215
We didn't really flirt with her though. At all. We just granted her her wish. Dscussing the new underworld isn't that time critical anyway.

>>4799249
I'm gonna go with Vritra from what we currently know.

>>4799286
Gladly!

It's so hard to pick just one.

>>4799379
Definitely not cursed, but Sakura looks so much better with purple hair.

>>4799565
Suprisingly little overnight voting, yeah.

And can we please not ask Waver about his Servants? We're calling to help a friend feel better, and the identity of his Servants is very much work related. We're seeing him tomorrow, we'll ask then.

>>4799174
>I’m just glad you’re alright, man. We’ll set things right.
>Do you have any news on how or where Gray is? I wanted to look for her when I kind of passed out.
> And you might want to come over. My friends are having me take it easy but I’d rather not keep you from your friend longer than necessary.
>also be extra careful out there. I’m sure you’re aware crazy stuff is afoot.

>>4799215
No. It was totally worth it.
>>4799249
Gil, Enkidu, Vritra. In terms of pure performance. But Vritra need a Rider to do her very best.
Chiyome if she has Truth Bunrei can do very well. Medusa is super versatile but I don`t expect much from here other than looking cute.
Nobu has huge advantage against most of people in our faction but I don`t expect much from her in the actual combat either.
Nero was always strong but she is likely extremely situational as a Saver.
Betty and Suzuka are unranked for this.
>>4799286
>Rinfest is over.
No. Give me Rin Matou.

>>4799174
>Ash Waver how he and his group are holding up
>Ask Waver if he knows if Gray is well or not and her current whereabouts
>Tell Waver it was really dumb not to contact you right away and trust shady incubus instead
>Tell Waver you dealt with Orochi and had a strong word with Merlin about using him and his friends as tools and bait
>Tell Waver to sit tight while you do clean up duty after yesterday and promise to explain things properly tomorrow and give him back Iskandar for good behavior
Best flow of conversation I can think of right now.

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>>4799174
Switch >>4799188 to support >>4799735
It really is the best.

I can't stop myself from posting more Sakura

>>4799758
Yk sometimes i forget that Sakura is actually hot

>>4799174
>>4799631
>>4799735
Switch

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Hmmmm.

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>>4799768
>Sakura is actually hot
BB is supposed to have the exact same body as Sakura but I can`t really think of them of them in equal term of hotness.
Can`t imagine Sakura taking this idea well.

>>4799797
its imouto lens that kinda make me forget about Sakura, BB is a massive flirt

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>>4799768
Now, that's not something you should be forgetting anon.

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>>4799797
>>4799798
It's all a matter of confidence.

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>>4799807
Nice girls finish last.

>>4799174
>>4799735
+1

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>>4799798
>>4799804
>>4799807
probably why Sakura seems hotter when she's being flirty and schemes to spend more time with us

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>>4799816
Unless there's a threat of them going berserk.

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>>4799807
And that's why happy, post-HF Sakura is the best Sakura.

That spring in her step, man

>>4799819
I'm biased, I always see her as really fucking hot, but yeah, I can understand that.

>>4799824
I am certain she will if we dodge night duties again.

>>4799001
Dunno if this went through yet as I'm just catching up, but this is a perfect moment for a very OG Shinji "Emiyaaa kunnn" reply

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Screw it, I've had no sleep but I can always have a nap.
What won?

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>>4799826
Its also that monkey brain thing of "must protect and make happy" that kinda makes me overlook that she's also extremely fucking hot

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>>4799842
>>4799735 wins

>>4799842
we have a tie

>>4799826
>happy, post-HF Sakura is the best Sakura.
For all the trash talk Sweets gets from anons I still impressed how well he made Alberich trample all over hard won victory and happiness of Emiya family in Awakening.

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>>4799844
I must be wired differently then, the two are extremely entwined for me.

>>4799848
You're probably counting yourself twice.

>>4799853
Literally, what was the point of doing that

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>>4799853
>how well
That is not the word I would use. I'm still seething at the thought, even if I've never actually read it.

>>4799856
Edge?

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>>4799853
He still dies the moment he goes into Unlimited Blade Works if Shirou doesn't somehow forget how to use his Reality Marble and went through all the effort of making a Broken Phantasm arrow while standing inside UBW.
Or if Cybele didn't just do absolutely nothing to a guy who only had B rank Magical Energy.


>>4799856
There was no point at all.
The major conflict between the two factions was.
>"Grail corrupted, do not use!"
vs
>"Don't believe you!"
And this spiralled into Alberich murdering them after they were understandably upset that he murdered an entire city block for a heal/power-up.

>>4799337
Nero was taught Magecraft by Simon Magus, she's an absolute prodigy. It took Peter the Apostle's spell nullification to bring Simon down while he was busy flying around dabbing on him in an Imperial Court magic contest.

Simon can revive himself after decapitation, and Nero learnt that technique herself. It's her Undying Magus skill as a Caster. It's also termed as actual "resurrection", while also empowering the fuck out of the target.

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>>4799842
based insomniac