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The Grail War continues, and you're fighting against your greatest foe yet, the False Beast, Yamata-no-Orochi, under the control of the man you hate the most.

You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.

To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have shifted the future away from the one that you once would have faced and instead onto one of uncertainty and chaos.

The Fifth Holy Grail War lies ahead of you, and the challenge and danger it represents to you, the people you care for and the world itself is far greater than you could have ever predicted. Though the grail might be corrupted and the war itself might be a sham, the stakes couldn't be higher.

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Last Thread: >>4758455
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You look at the growing body of Yamata-no-Orochi and frown.'A quick change of plans, Suzuka, there's no point in using Trichiliocosm anymore, instead, I want you to use Heavenly Demon Rain on him instead, go for his eyes. You've got the processing power to make them accurate, right? But don't take any risks at all in the fight if you can help it, your safety is important to me, and I'd feel terrible if you were to get hurt for my sake.' You've barely known Suzuka for very long at all, but that doesn't mean you'd be OK with her getting hurt or worse.

'Master, this thing is a Beast. Even if I wasn't fighting by your side, my obligations as a Heroic Spirit mean I'm compelled to at least try to destroy Yamata-no-Orochi... Or I suppose I really should call him your ancestor. To think that a human was capable of devising a plan to steal the body of a god... Oh, sorry, I'm getting a little carried away here.' Suzuka apologizes for going into a little too much detail than was necessary for the situation. Though you can't blame Suzuka for thinking the way she is. What Zolgen managed to accomplish is pretty ridiculous, through turning himself into a vessel of a God and then overwhelming that God through the power of ELIXIR, though with ELIXIR destroyed, his control on Orochi may very well be slipping right now. Of course, he doesn't specifically seem to be having any trouble keeping himself in control though, so maybe he's truly managed to suppress or destroy Orochi's consciousness? If you were in Zolgen's situation where your control over body was entirely dependent on something that may end up being disabled, you'd make sure that it wouldn't be an issue. You're annoyingly confident in Zolgen's own planning abilities to have seen the potentiality of something like this happening though. Then again, at this stage, you don't really suppose it matters all too much on who's in charge of the body or not.

'Alright, just... take care, OK? You quickly glance at the fox-eared girl, who is now wielding her golden sword.

'Of course... Darling.' Suzuka cuts off the mental link with that last word, and you hide a very slight frown before you return your attention to the humongous dragon god. Though it's only at that moment that you realize that he's not simply focused on growing! One of his eight heads is smashing down towards the floor of the chamber! It's... too huge! There's no way that you'll be able to dodge that, wait! Maybe you'll be fast enough to use a barri-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77pR7MjLI_s
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Thankfully, somebody else is fast enough to dodge it, and you feel yourself being harshly grabbed by the scruff of your neck and rapidly carried out of the way of the smashing neck of the dragon beast. Vritra only just manages to get the two of you out of the path of destruction left by a single one of Orochi's necks, already even one of the necks of the Beast has eclipsed ELIXIR itself in size, and the mere act of it being smashed against the floor of the Central Chamber splits not just the room in half, but the entire structure cracks in half! Orochi is somehow managing to manipulate his movement even with nothing but void underneath his feet, a pseudo-form of flight, in which he's hovering in place. Then again, outside of this chamber specifically, you suppose that concepts such as gravity and other fundamental laws of the World of Humanity shouldn't technically have to apply, and Orochi very much is outside of the structure.

"Thanks for the save, Vritra." You thank the tall dragon woman before you glance over to Suzuka, relieved to see that she managed to get out of the way as well, you look over at her just in time to see her throw her golden blade into the air and have it transform into two hundred and fifty separate projectiles to impale Orochi with. Normally, with Blessing of Wisdom alone, she is still incapable of actual precise targeting with each of the blades, but now...

Each of the bladed weapons strike their target, each of Orochi's sixteen huge eyes are impaled with at least ten swords each, the heads start to thrash around in pain as Orochi is temporarily blinded by the attack. "Not bad." Vritra comments on the attack of her fellow Servant, which struck with truly remarkable accuracy, each blade struck true, even readjusting themselves in mid-air to strike their target. This is an attack that cannot be dodged physically, Suzuka's level of intelligence is simply too great for somebody to manage something like that now, no matter how fast or agile they might be, dodging two hundred and fifty projectiles that are working in conjunction with one another to perfectly impale you is simply impossible. The only way to avoid Suzuka's attack would be to kill her before she strikes you with it, or just hope that you're durable enough to survive being struck with two hundred and fifty Noble Phantasms. "But it won't be enough to take him down. His natural regeneration has been enhanced by the magecraft of the man who controls his body." Vritra is of course correct, as even now you can see the swords slowly begin to push themselves out from being embedded deep in Orochi's eyes.

"Then... What about you, Vritra? Do you have anything that might work? What about your second Noble Phantasm? Could that be used here?" You've been wondering just what that second Noble Phantasm of hers is capable of doing, it was one of the few things you couldn't determine about her from a glance when you ended up altering her concept.
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"Well... I suppose but..." Vritra almost looks as if she's blushing as she looks away for a single moment before steeling her face, remembering that you're very much in a deadly battle with Orochi, and even if the Beast has been temporarily blinded, your reprise won't last long. Thankfully his rampant flailing about has this is sort of embarrassing, but you're going to need to be by my side for me to use it, and it might not even be enough to defeat Orochi." Vritra sounds just a little bit awkward about telling you what her Noble Phantasm does, and you wonder what reason she might have for that.

"Why? What does it do?" You're curious as to just what Vritra's second Noble Phantasm could do that she'd specifically need somebody else with her for it. You may have been granted some knowledge of her identity thanks to your blessing, but it doesn't seem to have extended to that aspect of her identity.

"Well... In a sense, it sort of... cuts myself and my target off from the world... Well, that's not quite true, think of it like the creation of a... hmm, a Reality Marble, like the one you almost manifested against Orochi earlier to destroy ELIXIR. Inside that place, I am free to assume my full form as a dragon, my target will be cut off from the world by holy flames that can burn anything to the conceptual level and..." She blushes again. "Well, this is something that I never really did in life, but the one I've acknowledged as my rider will... Well, you'll have access to all of the power I have in my humanoid form for yourself while I've taken my dragon form and we'll both constantly be replenished with Magical Energy by the Counter Force itself. But..."

"What's the catch, Vritra?" For some reason merely asking her that question only causes the intensity of the slight blush to increase. You really don't like how she's acting when it comes to explaining the drawback of her Noble Phantasm.

"...It's activated through a kiss of... uh... love?" Vritra's smile is awkward now that she's revealed the truth behind her Noble Phantasm, and to think, only a few moments ago did this woman seem to be terrifyingly imposing, now she's blushing at the mere idea of sharing a kiss! But... well, you think you might've started blushing too, but now is not the time! Orochi has almost regained his eyesight, and he's still not stopped growing yet!

[Status Updated!]

"You're kidding, right?" The fact that the woman only blushes slightly more is evidence enough that she is in fact not kidding at all. Such a powerful Noble Phantasm being locked behind something like a kiss?!

"So, my sweet rider, shall I... still activate it?" She's averting her eyes from you now. You really weren't expecting this from Vritra of all people, but... well...

>"Yes."
>"No. Just keep fighting as you are."
>"Let me see if I can contact the rest of my allies first."
>"Take me over to Paracelcus first. He could be helpful."
>Write-in...
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>>4764831
OP you absolute madman
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>>4764831
>"Yes."
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>>4764831
>"Yes."
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>>4764831
>>"Yes."
Well we're already gonna die from Shinjibowl so why not
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>>4764844
>already know
But it has nothing to do with Textures and you implied it did
Also you presented it as "lol big dick swingers can't destroy a piece of paper" when it's more like "lol big dick swingers can't destroy a 1m-thick-titanium-carbon-fiber-reinforced piece of paper "
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>>4764831
>"Yes."
I fucking hate you, WhatIs
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>>4764831
>"Yes

We are so fucked when we get out. God damn meme votes gonna get is killed. Kissing Sakura without a proper talk is most likely gonna cause more damage then anyother meme vote to date when everything comes out.
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>>4764831
Having access to Vritra's powers and being plugged into the Counter Force for power is also pretty based. Would let us do some big dick Truth magecraft we usually can't, unga it up like Alitheia or more expensive shit.
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>>4764831
>"Yes."
QM will STILL deny he's a haremfag after this.
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>>4764831
>"Yes."
You're more of a monster then Zorochi.
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Goddamnit, that anon was right. QM really was a haremfag all along.

>>4764831
>"No. Just keep fighting as you are."
>"Take me over to Paracelcus first. He could be helpful."
>"Let me see if I can contact the rest of my allies first."

No. Not even to kill grandpa. Our allies are right outside. As the Nigger said, Para can rip a portal open with his Noble Phantasm, it's a lesser version of the supercomputer. Or Gilgamesh might even be able to bring them over with his Gate of Babylon. What was even the point of saving them, of gathering them, of leading them here otherwise? We should have left them all to chill at the mansion if Vritra was really all we needed.

I realise it's futile to try, but the madness has to stop sometime.
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We should at least tell our allies to help before kissing her, no?
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>>4764868
My implication was that it's retarded scaling shit up to solar-system/galaxy/giganigga level when it doesn't actually really mean anything because you're still nothing compared to Humanity Fuck Yeah that is slowly becoming more and more prevalent.
So why even bother having characters with the theoretical power output that would let them destroy the fucking sun? It's retarded and it's just the same as a child playing pretend.
It's like trying to have your cake and eating it.
Nasu wants retarded powerlevelfaggotry where characters are blowing up the universe from fighting, but at the same time, he's set Types up as the top dogs, so he needs to write an excuse as to why the powerlevelfaggotry works and why nobody has just eaten ORT yet.

>>4764871
Thanks.
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He's got a point. Why gather all our allies if going by ourselves would be enough?
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>>4764831
>>"Yes."
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>>4764884
...
I just want a Kaiju fight.
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>>4764892
This likely won't kill Orochi but give Shinji strength and survivability while executing a different plan. I'm thinking with the power up we can collapse the bubble a shunt everyone outside.
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>>4764831
Yes
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>>4764831
>"Yes."
So much yes.
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>>4764880
Someone colour his hair blue
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>>4764890
>Thanks.
For all it's worth, I fucking hate you too.

>>4764900
We've all been expecting the timely arrival of Kaiju beaky. And you know exactly what you're doing with that "kiss of true love" nonsense.

>>4764901
It pulls us into a reality marble with Vritra and Orochi man. Everyone else is completely useless if this works.
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>>4764900
Where is our friend Beaky?
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>>4764900
Would Betty be able to summon beaky and we have medea port him to us and we give him the concept of kaiju lol? Then we can have a proper kaiju fight with our dragon momma
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>>4764900
You know what you did
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Holy shit QM is the biggest haremfag here.

>>4764831
>"No. Just keep fighting as you are."
>>"Let me see if I can contact the rest of my allies first."

But we all know what 90% of anons will vote for ffs.
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QM might be a haremfag but anons still pick the romantic choice every time
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>>4764915
>>4764914
Asleep because you decided bringing Abby to life was more important.

>>4764912
>We've all been expecting the timely arrival of Kaiju beaky. And you know exactly what you're doing with that "kiss of true love" nonsense.
Well you sent away your other dragon FOR NO REASON.
Don't worry though, this isn't the sort of enemy that is actually possible to be killed in such a manner anyway.

Besides, it's just a kiss.
You've been handing them out like candy today.
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>>4764928
At this point I'm just enjoying toying with you all because I know that if it's offered you'll take the romantic approach every single time.
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>>4764933
>Besides, it's just a kiss.
>You've been handing them out like candy today.
Manwhore Shinji
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>>4764884
>Vritra was really all we needed.
Well, it is true.
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>>4764922
I still realize it's futile to try and go against the current, but we should try to consolidate the "No" vote. We have to hold hope.

>>4764928
We have NEVER voted to kiss a woman we met literally five minutes ago because it would give us ultimate power. This is so much worse than anything else we have done. It's a coomer vote for powergaming, and it renders everything else we've done up to this point irrelevant.

>>4764938
Did I say that I fucking hate you?

And for no reason? WE WERE HEADING INTO A TUNNEL. How could we possibly expect grandpa would have given us infinite space to move into?
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>>4764938
You're right and anons are still giving you shit over it for a hole they keep digging themselves into
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>>4764831
>>"Yes."
>despair that even with all this amount of woman loving you, shirou did still lose his virginity before you
>>4764933
Abby is very important
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I feel like there's one major thing you're all forgetting about what Orochi/Zolgen anyway.
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>>4764948
That we're going to make him look like a jobber?
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>>4764948
Fuck you.
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>>4764884
+1
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>>4764948
His control of the CS?
Is he still in japan for the country bonus?
Fuck this, too tired.
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>>4764946
>for a hole they keep digging themselves into
He literally gave Vritra a skill activated by a kiss of true love for no reason. This is not a hole we dig for ourselves, this is the QM firmly pushing us down the rails. Kissing her otherwise would have been literally unthinkable.
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>>4764948
That if we kill his form he can just possess a new host?
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>>4764964
And yet we're taking that option even though we can bring our friends in to have them wreck Orochi
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>>4764946
You do know we're Chad right? Just because you can't personally identify with this version because he's not a pathetic cuck like you doesn't give you the right to shit on everything.
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>>4764964
>Kissing her otherwise would have been literally unthinkable.
Ha ha.
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>>4764968
Ah.
Well shit, thats true, i think.
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>>4764945
>And for no reason? WE WERE HEADING INTO A TUNNEL. How could we possibly expect grandpa would have given us infinite space to move into?
You were heading to a chamber that you already knew was at least large enough to contain something "small castle" sized and she has a human form.

>>4764945
Look, look, it's not like this is going to be an auto-win. At all. Just trust me, OK? I'm not just about to make all your planning meaningless. Here are some ACTUAL SPOILERS if you want to know why I'm doing this. It's to give your allies the time they actually need to reach you.

>We have NEVER voted to kiss a woman we met literally five minutes ago because it would give us ultimate power.
Comparatively, you spent about as much time with Vritra as you had with Shuten before you kissed her.
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>>4764983
I would have voted for kissing her if she asked.
And yeah, fighting for stall makes sense.
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>>4764983
Also you have had MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES to bring your allies to you through your command spells, yet you don't trust them.
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>>4764938
Remember when you were guilt tripping us over not choosing Medea?
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>>4764990
Paranoia is one hell of a drug.
You should have expected that.
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Wait is the time dilation turned off by the way? If it is then yeah Vritra buys us a solid 10 minutes, QM already said that Sakura would freak out and use Independent Manifestation if we ran away to another universe or some shit
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>>4764994
Haha, good times.
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>>4764983
>no hope
We were pretty close to getting some Hope not so long ago though.
>>4764994
Nyarly is truly our greatest bro.
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>>4764990
YOU TOLD US NOT TO TRUST THEM

>>4764994
He was right we would've saved a lot of time if we chose her
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>>4764973
The coomer vote is strong, I won't deny it. But presenting the option as "Kiss of true love for ultimate power" is pushing his thumb on the scale pretty hardcore.

>>4764983
An underground chamber, that a fuckhuge dragon would have trouble navigating around. Her human form is weaker than her dragon form. This is explicitly why we sent her away, the danger was too great.

>spoiler
I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. "Kiss of true love" is too much. Her and Suzuka can stall without it.

>>4764990
You specifically warned us about going off to fight the creator of the command seals. You stroke the flames of paranoia here.

>>4764997
It is, yes. That's why I'm suggesting we contact them and have Para help rip a portal open if they can't make it here by themselves. We don't NEED to do this.
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>>4764995
I had completely expected you to at least summon Chiyome to you, and later Medea after Vritra got her Nega-Protection skill. Instead you started treating Medea like she would die immediately.
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See, because I'm bothered less by romance I don't see why no to accept the offer. It's also what lets the QM write out a scenario he has already planned for/envisioned so it'll allow smoother story continuation.

I will say though, her being this spaghetti is endearing, and this side of her is more manageable than dragonmummy predator.

If the time dilation is down, Zolgen can CS back all of his servants and we're fucked as we'll be overrun

>>4765013
Might be because she almost got squished by SAlter recently. And with her B Agility Orochi always get turn priority and she has no dodge/precog in combat situations
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>>4765013
Salter almost killed her today. Grandpa is stronger. You warned us about the command seals. I thought we were narrowly avoiding something worse than a dead end with every paranoid decision we made in the forest today, but I guess that wasn't true?
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>>4765019
>It's also what lets the QM write out a scenario he has already planned for/envisioned so it'll allow smoother story continuation.
When have we cared about that? Didn't we have a discussion a few nights ago about how our paranoid autistic write-ins give him the chance to be creative? AND he confirmed that he enjoys it?
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Why don't we command seal Medea in now?
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4 servants, that's 12 command spells in total, I think it's time to just say fuck it and start dumping them. It's not like it can get any worse.
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>>4765006
>>4765008
I was warning you about them because of the fact that Zolgen is capable of magic that replicates magic on the level of True Magic through them.
That was where the warning was coming from.
The fact that he could teleport things.
Most of your allies already resisted his attempt to mind-control and it would be less effective on the second go around.

>"Kiss of true love for ultimate power"
You literally just did this with Sakura.
You even got a free confession out of it.

Besides, it's a one-sided love on Vritra's part, mostly. Shinji barely even knows her at all.
Hell, he only knows anything about her because of his Blessing giving him Dragon Intuition.
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>>4765022
No all paranoia makes sense, you know?
I expected that not all our paranoia would have made sense, i still voted to then because i found it safer.

We probably should vote for vritra and us to stall him while we call for our allies.
Seriously, a kiss aint gonna kill anyone, for now.
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>>4765013
We got pretty protective about Medea after she got almost killed.
It is rather good thing for character growth since I think this was the closest we got to losing someone we truly cared about due to our own direct plan and action?
Not counting times we walked into boss battle unprepared.
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>>4765031
knowing she is a cute chocolate dragon is almost enough for me.
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>>4764864
>>4764831
Switching to
>Command Seal in Medea
>Ask her to teleport and bring in your allies
>"Yes."
There, we stall for time and Medea works her magic when Orochi breaks through
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>>4765031
>spoiler
Ah, so it is fated love!
Arcueid is truly insightful about us.
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>>4765026
I'm not saying go with the default just kissu. It does open up new possibilities though.

My writein from last night didn't assume he'd just go straight for the bonk on Shinji.

>>4765045
is probably fine because Medea has seen us do this all the time, as long as she gets her tongue kiss. I'd add something like have Medea heal Paracelsus then work together to open a path. She has healing magic and the sword amplifies all of her rituals and spells and lets her instant cast complex rituals.
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>>4765013
CS paranoia considering the stoking of it.

This is a stall game for Gil to crack this baby wide open. I don't think we have the tools to win no matter what. I'd rather choose the option that makes Shinji stonk enough not to die until reinforcements come.
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>>4765022
Oh, a lot of the stuff in the forest could have gone really bad.
But Medea is pretty difficult to kill unless you instantly kill her thanks to all the ridiculous magic she has on her side. Being cut in half by Excalibur because she's blindsided would've killed her.
In general though for Medea you need to strike a vital point or cause massive damage.
She survives a casual Gilgamesh impaling her in the Fate Route before he finishes the job iirc.

And again, you don't need to kiss Vritra.
All jokes aside, so put forward your case.
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>>4765051
Yeah Medea knows we're a massive manwhore but she still loves us it's cool probably hopefully maybe
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You have 25 minutes.
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>>4765051
Are you going to do a write in?
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>>4765064
see above
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>>4764831
I'mma go with this >>4764884
with an extra "Sorry" on top.

Although I do want to tell her we care for her, now's really not the time.
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>>4765031
You warned us about going against the creator of the command seals. We assumed this meant he could fuck with the command seals. It is not at all a bad assumption to make. You did not correct this misconception until now.

>Shinji barely even knows her at all
That is PRECISELY what makes this worse than what we did with Sakura, or than when we kissed Medea just to make her feel better. This is explicitly a kiss of true love that we'll be sharing with a near stranger.

>>4765056
If Medea is not in danger from Orochi, she wasn't in danger from Salter. You can't really have it both ways. And things have been going much, much better for us since we got kidnapped, so I feel somewhat justified in thinking our paranoia wasn't justified after all. Especially after you've confirmed the command seal paranoia was unjustified.
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>>4765068
Ya, it's going to be tongue kiss.
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>>4764933
>FOR NO REASON.
How is not wanting to risk your beloved daughter getting hurt not a valid reason?
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Qm said it was one sided so get over it Autist. It's the easiest and quickest way to power up and she'll be hyped as hell
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>>4765074
Dude, why are you so salty.
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>>4764831
>>"Yes."
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>>4765084
Just ignore him. If you let him he'd probably kill off illya just so sakura has no competition.
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>>4765084
Honestly, I'd rather have FGO Guidebook Anon here explaining power levels, then spergautist.
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>>4765076
Ah yes, with lots of saliva to exchange mana.
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>>4765074
Just think of it as a mana transfer.

>If Medea is not in danger from Orochi
But she is in danger from him, I'm just saying that she won't immediately crumple like a bag of potato chips from being in his presence. She was in danger from Saber Alter because she was literally almost cut in two.
As things stand, Sakura still has the #1 spot in Shinji's heart.
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safest order of events to avoid spaghetti

>>4764831

>CS buff to Suzuka to keep up her blinding barrage going so we can finish our conversation without snek interruptions, tell her in mental connection to assist the allies you're bringing however she can, even if it requires Trichiliocosm use
>Accept Vrita's offer, give her a kiss on the cheek and a headpat, then tell Vrita to hold on just long enough to let us bring in support if she's just going to immediately drag us in to a RM
>CS Medea and Chiyome here, tell Chiyome to take Para and heal him and keep herself and the others safe at all costs that aren't her own life, Medea to work with with him once he's conscious to forge a connection to the others and let them through, start work on her own while she's waiting for him to wake up.
>Tell them to stay safe, and that we're going to buy them time
>Vrita releases RM and Shinji, herself and snek are dragged in while allies sort shit out

Enables QM autism, avoids romantic conflicts as Vrita already felt this way about us, hopefully brings Para into the fray, along with Medea/Chiyome
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>>4765084
>Sakurautist
Guess
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>>4764831
>>4764884
Support
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>>4765096
>As things stand, Sakura still has the #1 spot in Shinji's heart.
Unacceptable. We need to push Medea at the top spot.
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>>4765106
She's a very close second!
But he's known Sakura for a decade and has been working to save her for all that time.
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>>4765101
Support except it's just a light kiss on the lips.
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>>4765096
We've got to change that, so many better options.
>>4764831
Yes. We need to mana transfer.
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>>4764831
change >>4764947 to
>CS buff to Suzuka to keep up her blinding barrage going so we can finish our conversation without snek interruptions, tell her in mental connection to assist the allies you're bringing however she can, even if it requires Trichiliocosm use
>Accept Vrita's offer, give her a simple kiss on the lips, then tell Vrita to hold on just long enough to let us bring in support if she's just going to immediately drag us in to a RM
>CS Medea and Chiyome here, tell Chiyome to take Para and heal him and keep herself and the others safe at all costs that aren't her own life, Medea to work with with him once he's conscious to forge a connection to the others and let them through, start work on her own while she's waiting for him to wake up.
>Tell them to stay safe, and that we're going to buy them time
>Vrita releases RM and Shinji, herself and snek are dragged in while allies sort shit out

Same shit as NIgger's but with actual kissing on the lips.
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>>4765074
>t can only be activated out of a genuine love of humanity or love for a single human great enough that Vritra would trust them to ride on her back, and as such, a kiss is required to bring about the activation.

It doesn't specify what type of kiss, and only requires love from Vrita's end. Shinji filled her DARK SOUL WITH LIGHT so that condition was fulfilled, more fulfilled when riding meme happened. We can just daughterzone/sisterzone her which is still a close love, she does embody a form of Truth now and is a Dragon, like actual daughter. So she can be family without making you sneed so much.
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>>4765107
Just summon her and then immediately cuck her, that should work.

I hope you fuckers get castrated by Sakura+Medea after this, you deserve it.
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>>4765101
Do we really need to CS buff Suzuka for that? Pretty sure we have enough time to CS summon Medea and Chiyome and kiss Vritra
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>>4765101
I honestly think it would be enough to phone allies to dig down to our location and not use CS if we're going to be stalling Orochi with an RM anyway. Enkidu, Gilgamesh and all the powerhouses can 100% dig down good enough and break in or Suzuka can connect up to Para's Sword with her big brain and just instantly make it OP by serving as a CPU.

I'd rather not use up CS at this point if we don't need it.
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>>4765112
make sure you link to the qm post so its counted

>>4765116
you removed the headpat baka

>>4765121
It's just to ensure the rest of the conversation goes through as planned, as Orochi interrupted us mid plan last update with flailing unga bunga
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>>4765096
Well yeah ofc, that makes sense, Sakura is our girlfriend and we knew her for 10 years, we've known Medea for like a week
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>>4765118
>We can just daughterzone/sisterzone her.
No.
Even if we still manage to do that somehow, it's time for non-blood related Incest too.
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>>4765122
we have like 9?

what do you intend to use them for anyway?

We get 3 back right away if we contract Para
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Sakurautist, if it makes you feel better, I'll write a Sakura Interlude of your choice.
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>>4765118
>We can just daughterzone/sisterzone her
Anon, Sakura exists
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>>4765126
>you removed the headpat baka
fuck

QM, take my vote as having the headpat part.
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>>4765135
you weren't supposed to point this out bro

What's a little affection between siblings?
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>>4765130
You know, it's pretty funny how you just keep storing up Command Spells like this.
Shame nobody thought to just harvest Kirei's corpse at the time.
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>>4765143
he was busy being atomised while we were unlocking the sekkrit wormpa boss route
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>>4765143
Did Rin destroy his body? She was very fucking angry
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>>4765082
>>4765084
It being the easiest way to power up is precisely why I'm so salty. The QM is heavily pushing the option that will supposedly break the hearts of the other girls who love us. Vritra will be hyped as hell, and I get it that you guys don't care about Sakura, but what about Medea? What about Satsuki? How will they feel when they learn we shared a Kiss of True Love with a near stranger?

>>4765090
I was LITERALLY the guy who came up with the plan to save Illya in time. I care for Sakura the most, but that does not mean I don't care about the other girls. Sometimes I feel I'm the only one who does when everyone is so quick to just add the latest girl we meet to our collection with no thought on the consequences.

>>4765132
I refuse. It will not make me feel better. We are betraying Sakura, Medea and every other care we supposedly care about because you added that in the Noble Phantasm. I care about the emotional well-being of our girls and this makes me feel that haremfaggotry was the right approach all along, and the Shinjibowl will resolve itself with all the girls happy to share the big Makiri dick.
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>>4765148
But what if it doesn't actually need a kiss and she just wants a kiss?
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>>4765148
I care about all of then.
its just a kiss, if it leads to anything else its not something we can be sure for now.
>>4765149
Would still vote for a kiss.
And slap her butt for lying.
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>>4765149
Who cares? its a free kiss.
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>>4765143
We need to get our GIF tats somehow for our eldritch delinquent image.

>>4765149
It would be super based and I'd vote for it extra hard.
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>>4765148
>this makes me feel that haremfaggotry was the right approach all along, and the Shinjibowl will resolve itself with all the girls happy to share the big Makiri dick.
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>>4765149
So Vritra is lying? The charsheet is lying? That's what you're going with? Really?
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>>4765143
What is funny is Shinji having 4 servants when he can only support 3. I hope it actually somewhat hinders him when he gets out.

Checked the archives, salty ASOIAF fags are at it again.
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>>4765149
Even better.
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>>4765149
I would vote for the kiss just for the big brain moves she pulled
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>>4765157
Dude, let it go for fucksake
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>>4765159
If we have so many CS and we need to, then we can just use 3 to Incarnate a Servant instantly, since I think using up 3 can do that.
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>>4765159
Sash of the wargod juice is a helluva drug
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>>4765157
I think he's just joking.
I hope.
We've built Shinji to be a hopelessly autistic womanizer.
Still, I don't want the kiss.
>>4764831
>"Let me see if I can contact the rest of my allies first."
>"Take me over to Paracelcus first. He could be helpful."
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It's just a kiss dude. I think especially Sakura will understand a bit after we confessed to her and her insane power up. We're doing this to save like all timelines and shit.
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>>4765165
Actually this is a good point, if we don't use them up we can actually just use them to Incarnate some of our allies. Good reason to hold on to them, since we may not have time to let Casters figure out if we need to do it fast for some reason.
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>>4765172
Every time someone contracts with Shinji he gets 3 more, we can just meme the whole system with free incarnations.

It only worked that way in Prototype, it never showed up as a possibility again so we aren't 100% sure it'll work here
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>>4765171
We are sharing a kiss of true love with a girl we recruited in the split second since we vanished, just a few minutes after we told her we loved her. Sakura will see it as a betrayal. Medea will see it as a betrayal. Even if we do patch things over, it still is a betrayal just to get more power we don't actually need.
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>>4765149
Thank you, Grandpa.
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>>4765165
Sounds like a good plan
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>>4765157
You live up to your name at least.
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>>4765148
>What about Satsuki?
Don't drag my wife into this.
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>>4765174
We already have Proto Ayaka here, so who knows. If nothing else, they are useful for boosting your own capabilities really well with no seeming compatibility issues or anything.

Maybe they can just super-battery for us doing some Truth shit to Incarnate someone, since they are very pure and concentrated.
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>>4765175
It's supposedly one sided. You have such little faith in your wife.
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>>4765175
QM already said it's one-sided love you sperge.
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>>4765175
I feel you are overreaching too much about what you think.
The kiss has a perfect good explanation, if we going to get romantic or not with her that happens after.
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>>4765175
>In addition to all this, there is a special clause for the activation of this Noble Phantasm, it can only be activated out of a genuine love of humanity or love for a single human great enough that Vritra would trust them to ride on her back, and as such, a kiss is required to bring about the activation. The kissed party however is temporarily capable of borrowing Vritra's power, becoming as naturally physically powerful Vritra herself is while she is in her human form. Personal Skills and Noble Phantasms are not shared, however.

It's not really true love, more high enough affection points to be ridden. We were already at that point in the chambers, probably immediately after giving her the concept even.

It also specifies nothing abut reciprocation, it's purely one sided on Vrita's part.

Idk if this helps at all, but it's not advertised as true love or anything. Just high bond level/trust on Vrita's side and tolerating the action on Shinji's side
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Also there are like 5 different forms of love. Highest being agape and what not.
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>>4765149
That's really sweet of her, but
-if we believe her, it wouldn't work unless it was a love at first sight.
-if we see through her, would we want to trample over girls we already care for just for the free kiss? ...actually, nevermind.
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QM not gonna lie. This entire situation is really fucking stupid.
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>>4765185
I think he is a little blinded by rage or something.
its weird, shit like this on the nasuverse is somewhat common.
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>>4765194
someone had to take Kirei's place, WhatIs stepped up
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>>4765157
SHUT THE FUCK UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP
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>>4765194
You're really fucking stupid.
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>>4765174
3 more + the used ones refresh so far.

>>4765157
The implication it has to be a romantic kiss between a man and a woman is an obvious bait for coomers and a total bullshit, it doesn't make sense and doesn't fit with the skills name and her personality.
What does make sense is Vritra giving kiss to someone because of her love for humanity/ that particular human. Shinji kissing back is not required, it's a bonus for Vritra because of her selfish desires.

Shinji doesn't need to kiss Vritra but horny anons will do it anyway.
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>>4765194
Better than JK noble phantasm.
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>>4765185
>genuine love of humanity or love for a single human great enough
Yeah, not buying. Sorry.

Anyway, I guess I'm firmly in the minority here. One last thing and I'm dropping this: To all the haremfags I've been arguing against all this time: You were right. I was wrong. I shouldn't have worried about the consequences of adding every girl we meet to the harem. It'll all work out in the end. I'm sorry to have doubted you.
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>>4764831
>Yes
Hey autist fuck off even batman is more tolerable than you at this point.

Also thank you based qm for listening to my request of having suzuka call us darling.
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>>4765206
Based. Harem chads unite!
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>>4765198

1 post id

>>4765201
Can't remember if they refresh, but if they do why is anyone at all concerned about using them? Word of God already said it's not an issue to use them to stem paranoia
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>>4765208
Based
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Even now, Zouken makes Sakura's life worse.
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>>4765205
Oh my god, are you really that weak that something not going your way is making you quit?
Bloody hell, you are quitting before anything even happened.
Stop being a faggot and man up, not every vote is going to go as you want.
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>>4765216
It is third time he is quitting.
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>>4765216
I'm not quitting the quest anon. And it's not about one vote not going my way. I just realize my approach on our relationships was wrong, so I'll stop arguing about that particular thing.
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>>4765219
He's hoping he sticks it this time.
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>>4765213
Iirc early in the quest we did use some of them and after contracting a new servant they refreshed. Anons just stopped using them.
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>>4765219
''this'' could easily have been the argument and not the quest btw

>>4765223
CS absolutely everything for efficiency's sake then
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>>4765205
Maybe you should drop that name?
No matter how much you shill that one thing you did, I associate you with whining and seething more than anything else.
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>>4765221
We dont know yet, you just are reaching conclusions before we ever get close of it.
Stop saying that the harem route wont have problems, there probably will be and we shall make it work.
Now stop with the salt, christ.
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>>4765230
found it
>Three more of those shapeless masses of red ink that are your command spells appear on the back of your hand, now there are nine in total. Oddly enough, the command spell that you used when you ordered Betty to awaken seems to have vanished in it's entirety without even leaving a mark on your skin. You're also pretty certain that command spells aren't actually meant to duplicate themselves whenever a new Servant is contracted to you. Immediately after this, you can feel a drain on your magical energy begin. A greater drain than both Caster and Betty put together is being drawn from you and towards Shuten. You knew that you were going to need to provide her with a lot of magical energy, but you couldn't have predicted that she was going to take this much! You're just thankful that you've got such a high capacity for magical energy, otherwise the magical energy being drawn from you would definitely have a greater effect on you than it actually is. Even with your great potential, you feel that simply having been contracted to Shuten is taking at least a third of your remaining magical energy, after taking Caster and Betty into account. Almost half of your magical energy is now being diverted to your Servants alone, and your own use in battle is somewhat diminished as a result. You can see why exactly Shuten was consuming the inhabitants of the city. It's still an absolutely reprehensible act, but this demand for magical energy isn't the sort of thing that any normal magus would've been able to cope with. Ibaraki is probably in the same boat, now that you think about it. Oni aren't exactly the most power efficient beings in the world.
Part 12, http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/4504360/
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>>4765149
This was a joke, sorry if it wasn't clear.

Let me make this absolutely clear.
The kiss doesn't even have to be reciprocated. You're not even the one who has to kiss her.
This is more an expression of love Vritra feels for you/humanity than it is a fairytale style kiss of True Love.

I'm sorry if it came off that way but it wasn't my intention.
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I miss illya.
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>>4765230
Wouldn't it be more efficient to make Caster Team create a magical energy repository like a Grail with nearly all the parts stripped out and then using CS to make them make it super good or we can just use CS to make a Servant pull a lot of energy out of the leyline into the proto-Grail.

Hippolyta in SF pulls out energy from the leyline after being commanded and basically permanently gets upgraded stats iirc, but the locals don't get fainting spells or sickness or anything like Medea's draining thing.

If you try to autism the CS anyway.
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>>4765165

>>4765235
Here fren, to put your mind at ease on using CS for safety. They're infinite.
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>>4765236
You really dont need to say sorry for everything.
People need to be less salty about shit like that, being jokes or not.
I prefer QMs that joke like that to be honest, but you do you.
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>>4765205
You do realize that we'd have to add her anyway. Shinji is the only one that can smother her destructive empulses. Just like Shuten we'd have to spend a lot of time making sure they don't go off the tracks.

Oh there are going to be consequences for this. Harem end was likely possible if we'd done this carefully but kissing Sakura nuked that. If we had sit down hashed this out and have the other girls communicate with eachother there was a possibility of Polyamoury to get us through.
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>>4765239
I miss enhance that nigga literally showed up for one fight then fucked off.
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>>4765242
It's definitely an option pre Manaka, before the ritual collapses we should abuse them and maybe even research into their mechanics to pick up what wormpa left behind. Medea understands a form of teleportation and Para had his brain jacked into ELIXIR, they could come up with incredible things together and long, complex rituals are instantly cast using his sword.
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>>4765245
I just want to write a fun story.
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>>4765242
A mana tank? sure?
Not sure how that shit works.
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>>4765243
Well, I'd guess they are finite in that each contract with a given Servant only refreshes them once?

That would be my guess and I'm not sure all Servants would be fine being passed around but otherwise indeed should abuse these somehow.
>>4765251
I want to wait until we use most of them up until we "use up" the act of contracting Para that will refresh us, basically, since I don't think they are truly infinite in that you can contract, use them up, break contract, re-contract, refresh etc.
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>>4765253
CS fuelled Philosopher's stone/mini ELIXIR?

ELXIR was literally just the potential of Sword of Paracelsus taken to it's utmost limits via worms
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>>4765252
I know dude, i also just want to have fun adventures, not taking shit too seriously.
Just keep writing and having fun.
But really, i'm really glad you decided to do this quest, it is quite fun.
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>>4765253
Grail is basically a giant mana tank being funnelled into Juzteaze's Magic Circuit based core.

Casters can also do crazy shit with all that magical energy, as thats how it works by itself in non-Juzteaze Grails. It's just a huge magical energy thing a magus could basically do anything he can imagine with.

>>4765256
Caster Team+Suzuka+Para+CS could make something cool with it.
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This thread so far seems to be terrifying foreshadowing for the waifuwars to come.

>>4764831
>Yes
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>>4765259
Suzuka would be basically a plug-in emergency CPU if we needed to do something obscene that it normally can't.
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>>4765236
No, after all the teasing about eating him, her trying to get Shinji to kiss her is in character. Anons want to do that anyways though, so they don't care.
>>4765230
QM did recently wonder about why we aren't more suspicious of our anomalous CS.
I doubt we can exploit them by breaking contract and forming it again to get infinity CS. We should try to use some of them and see if they refresh over night or something though.
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>>4765252
Even if I am currently salty, I want you to know I do find the story to be fun, overall. I wouldn't have been nearly as invested otherwise.
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What's currently winning?
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>>4765267
Kiss
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>>4765259
>>4765262
Also, maybe add BB into the computer team if she remembers how the Moon Cell shit works. Moon Cell is like a Mega-ELIXIR...Megalixir and she could maybe have something to add.
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>>4765264
>apply the concept of Ouroboros to our command spells
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>>4765242
We also have option of asking Alaya to provide for us with her powers.
>>4765252
You are doing good job at it. Don`t let waifuwars discourage you.
I am sure that a lot of other anons have their preferences that is likely not going to make it or will never play any major role in the story. Or at least I can say that for myself. So, I just enjoy the ride anyway.
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>>4765272
Would that make a self-replicating Curse as Command Seals are cursecraft and give us sick ass tattoos or would it make it a Demon due to making it "alive" with Truth? What do you think?
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>>4765252
And you are doing that successfully. With a quest and player base this large, there will always end up being drama here and there, but in my opinion, and I think I speak for the vast majority of players here, you have been doing an amazing job balancing fun and story.
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>>4765272
Hell no, giving Shinji Perpetuum Mobile of the first kind will ruin all the fun. I really appreciate QM didn't just let us loot the ELIXIR and broke it with our RM, that would be really bad.
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>>4765275
Command Spell-kun tulpa to add a snakelike shota to the snake harem
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>>4765236
I trust you OP, but I'd still feel bad about taking advantage of the cute dragon or leading her on, and there's really no time right now to explain our situation to her.
Kissing her for a powerup seems like a cruel thing to do not just to her but to the ones not present as well.

Most I can do is go with
>"Whatever it takes."
and expect a torturous fallout.
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>>4765252
I'm genuinely enjoying myself, just some anons taking things too personal
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After this we really should funnel most of our Casters, BB and Suzaku into an R&D section of our company. Combine magic with tech or advance human understanding decades would be the goal.

Have ninja girl create a ninja village for the Makiri clan. Then give Zoukens former Caster to Luvia because Rin isn't Ishtar Rin so she can fuck off.
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>>4765279
We'll make Goetia 2.0 Snake ver. but not retarded and continue being Merlin+Solomon but modern and, maybe if we're lucky, not as retarded.
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Snakes really are a theme here, huh.
Even your Martial Arts are Snake Style.

So saying yes to the kiss is winning then?
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>>4765285
Yes
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>>4765285
Yes
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>>4765285
Yes.
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>>4765282
Spinzaku cameo?

>>4765285
It's kind of kino, even wormpa likes snakes.

Japanese for snek is "hebi" which just means long, take from that what you will.

>>4765285
It's kind of a yes + a myriad other things but no real consistency
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>>4765280
We will likely have to recipocate her just like Shuten just to avoid her doing something stupid later.

Right now we are stuck with:
Arc
Satsuki
Sakura
Madea
Madusa
Shuten
Vajari

Don't think there are any other emotionally dependent/Yandere girls.
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>>4765285
Yes
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>>4765252
And you sure did you fucking sadist. Hope you're ready for the post-war waifu wars, it's going to be hell.
You did make us invested enough to get mad over it, so cheers to that.
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>>4765285
Yeah.
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>>4765282
>Rin isn't Ishtar Rin so she can fuck off.
Rude.
It's hilarious to think that Rin when she becomes a few years older goes full deredere and loses all the tsun.
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>>4765285
dragon snakes
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>>4765284
Solomon was too autistic to have a proper dialogue with Goetia. They didn't get on at all. Just need to grind bond with snektulpa CS-kun so he doesn't go full retard if left alone
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>>4765296
thats normal, being a original tsundere, rin is very soft even on her most tsun.
With time the already soft tsun just becomes more dere.
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>>4765300
Dragon steak!
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>>4765285
Give Kiyohime too.
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>>4765296
That's why I won't stop until she's at 99/100 with us I will complete this challenge
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>>4765309
Kiyo and Quetz are the only two missing snakegirls left in Fate off the top of my head.

Quetz is just beaner Vrita at this point though
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>>4765290
>Spinzaku cameo?
JIBUN WO
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>>4765285
Guess we truly are The Snake of Akasha
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All of this autism has made me really apreciate quests that have a love interest decided from the beggining.
I don't blame the qm for this, I blame everyone here that jumps at every new girl with no though for consequences.
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>>4765309
And of course Liz, who is more dragon>>4765313

>>4765313
Have him piggyback ride Lancelot as a secret contestant in the Carnival Olympics or Nerofest
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>>4765315
No one will know we stole Roa's epithet as he doesn't real anymore
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>>4764831
>Yes
>>4764851
>>4764863
>>4764871
>>4764877
>>4764880
>>4764881
>>4764894
>>4764904
>>4764907
>>4765085
>>4765115
>>4765206
>>4765260

>Kiss on cheek + others
>>4765101

>Kiss on lips + others
>>4765116

>Yes, CS Medea, reinforcements
>>4765045


>No, tamamophone, Para
>>4764884
>>4764959
>>4765072
>>4765104

>Tamamophone, Para
>>4765170

>No, tamamophone
>>4764922

I might have missed someone, but overwhelming support for a simple yes.
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>>4765315
NOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO BE THE PARADOX REINCARNATOR AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Speaking of the Roa meme, Ciel might have good input for magical fuckery between the Casters + Suzuka brains trust with Roa's memories of magecraft
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>>4765315
Alayan Ouroboros.
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We obviously don't want to be really in melee range of Zorochi too much, but does Ares Sash stack with having Vritra's stats?
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>>4765334
It should, I'd imagine Vrita's override our scuffed base stats, then Goddess of War applies its modifiers, then stack reinforcement to go even further beyond
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Zouken pulled some pretty big brain moves by still figuring out how to torture Sakura. By summoning qt servants and chucking them at Shinji, he would be too much of a manwhore to not take advantage of this situation, thus breaking Sakura's heart and cucking her, our grandfather is too evil and smart for us
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>>4765342
>"You were simply no match for my 3000 IQ, Shinji."
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>>4765339
We will be also tapping directly into Counter-Force. Remember Beast of Alaya?
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>>4765346

Are we going to cuck Ryouma's snekwife out of the CF with this?

>Beloved of Alaya: B (EX)
An exceptionally powerful variant of Charisma, boosted beyond the logical maximum of the skill due to leaving an impression on the true form of Alaya itself. Kept subconsciously sealed to be roughly equal to Charisma equal to B usually. If this skill were to be activated to it's fullest, then any being born of humanity would be unable to resist the commands of the skill's owner, however, the actual method to unseal this skill is unknown.

Talk no jutsu within the RM? Will this activate it?

We'll see I guess
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>>4765349
Ryouma showing up would be great. He is one of the more fun jannies alongside Okita Alter.
And I want Oryou to encourage our girls to be more proactive and act as a support character for them. She has better track record than most of them. And some of them need all the help they can get.
With Shirou too busy with Saber, people never voteing to call Nyarly, EMIYA and Alcides preoccupied with being angry and the best Shiki can do is to suggest raping them. We are low on manpower.
Although, maybe Gil will help us out if we end us as his friend.
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>>4765159
Apologies, they're a rowdy bunch.
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>>4765323
His flipped grin in this makes him look like some kind of vampire fishman.
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>>4765159
>>4765373
What'd they do
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>>4765372
Gil will suggest raping them too
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>>4765387
He did really big brain set up during Carnival.
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>>4765372
Gil is a rapist. Shirou is our only hope but he's busy fucking his fiancée
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>>4765372
Gil would suggest advanced rape like Prima Nocta
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>>4765372
>>4765387
>>4765413
>>4765434

This is another reason to find or summon bedivere. We bro it up with master pimpslapper and we hook him up with Obethia
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>>4765441
We could also summom Jeanne since she would literally chase away prostitutes away from her soldiers but yk...
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Update?
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>>4765452
Gimme like 4 minutes.
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>>4765473
Thanks Bae. Really excited
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"Then... If there's no other choice, then... do it. But... I'd really have liked to get to know you a bit better first." Honestly, you're starting to get frustrated with just how easily women around you seem to have started falling for you as of recent. It would be nice if there was at least some difficulty in getting them to think favorably, you know? As things are, you're just managing to dig a deeper hole for yourself when you end up actually having to figure out how you're going to resolve this mess. You've been ignoring it, but the problem seems to only have gotten worse because of it... and now that you confessed your love to Sakura, she's not going to take no for an answer when it comes to pursuing a romantic relationship with you either...

Vritra, unaware of your mental debate over the fact that you seem to have some sort of curse to cause women to fall for you. But not just any women, it really does feel like you've only managed to make powerful or dangerous women to fall for you. "Well, there's always time to get to know each other, isn't there? Eternity, actually." Wait a second? Eternity? Vritra might live forever, but you're pretty sure that you're still going to grow old... right? You actually don't know if that's true or not. It might be the case that your body's natural ability to regenerate has granted you a form of immortality, perhaps? You don't know, you still seem to be growing taller as you age. It might be an idea to research your having potentially accidentally become biologically immortal with Touko at some point in the future. "A-anyway." She looks away awkwardly, the domineering woman apparently embarrassed, seems despite all her big talk, when it actually comes to romantic affairs, it looks like this dragon woman is a complete novice.

Vritra walks close to you, looks at your face for a few seconds. "What are you waiting for, Vritra? If you're going to kiss me, then just... do it? OK? There's no point in just leaving us both in suspense considering we have about 12 seconds before Orochi gets his sight back." You remind the Dragon Woman that it's pretty vital that she hurries up with her kiss and activates her Noble Phantasm, while it probably won't be good enough to finish off Orochi all by itself, it should both injure and slow him down for enough time for the rest of your allies to be able to show up to help. Now that ELIXIR has been destroyed, it goes without saying that the time dilation effect should also have ended. In fact, you may very well be on a time limit here too,

"F-fine." Vritra kneels down, goes to kiss you on the lips, but then unexpectedly changes her target and kisses you on the cheek instead. You're left shocked in place for a minute, you had assumed entirely that Vritra would've gone all in on the kiss, and basically forced a french kiss or something, but... a kiss on the cheek? What are you? A maiden princess that has just been rescued by a prince?
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"...Really?" You're a little shocked by Vritra's decision not to immediately go for a kiss on the lips, even though she had full permission to do so. The gluttonous dragon showing a remarkable level of restraint.

"...I don't want my first proper kiss with you to be one I stole out of necessity, I'd never be satisfied if my first proper kiss with you was stained with the fact that it had some greater purpose to it." The tall woman blushes again as she looks away from you, and you actually respect her a little more for not just trying to steal a full kiss from you like that. Is it a matter of pride driving her? That she won't steal a kiss like that? "Now, with that done, I think I should show you just... what I can do with that kiss... Asha Vahishta!"

Vritra yells out the name of her Noble Phantasm just in time for Orochi to finally recover his eyesight, and the moment she does, a great darkness spreads out from beneath Vritra's feet, like a spillage of ink on the floor, the darkness rapidly stains all that it touches, but leaves Suzuka behind when it passes over her, from where you're standing, it looks like the fox eared woman is erased and consumed by the darkness, but in truth it's likely that she can't even see the ever expanding darkness as it grows to expand around Vritra, Orochi and yourself.

When the darkness has completely cut the three of you off from the rest of the world, the darkness shifts in color to blinding bright white, and Vritra disappears entirely. You're alone facing off against Orochi, and you can very much feel a great deal of strength surging through your body, further bolstered by the Sash of Ares. This is... incredible! You look at Orochi and smirk, the giant dragon's heads all look downwards at you.

"SHINJI! DO YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN DEFEAT ME WITH THIS?!" The eight heads roar in unison, the voice inhuman and furious. "DID YOU REALLY THINK YOU COULD SEAL ME WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS?!" Ah, looks like the sealing aspect of the Noble Phantasm hasn't managed to seal the powers of a Beast, though that's something you sort of expected. It was never going to be that easy, was it? Still, you'd like to know where the hell Vritra is! Because for as strong as you feel right now, you're not entirely confident in your ability to survive eight Anti-Country attacks being directed at you at the same time.
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You brace yourself to attempt to avoid the attacks, but Orochi has finally stopped growing now, and you underestimate just how large the beast truly is. Even a single one of the heads is like a mountain itself! You can't dodge something like that! Then... maybe a barrier of truth? You have time to create one this time, but could it really hold up against an Anti-Country attack? You think it might be able to, but before you can find out for yourself, a great white mass of scale and muscle smashes into the black scales of Yamata-no-Orochi, pushing the gigantic dragon backwards. You get a better look at the tremendously large dragon that has shown up to assist you, and you quickly realize that this is Vritra's current form. The dragon brings its head to the ground to look at you with one of its eyes, Vritra in her current state is absolutely enormous. The nature of her Noble Phantasm meaning that her size as a dragon is effectively something that she herself can choose within this world of hers. She's still smaller than Yamata-no-Orochi is in her current form, but she herself is like a mountain herself, one of her eyes alone is nearly the size of Alítheia. Seems like she's waiting for your decision on how to attack Orochi.

>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to damage him as much as possible.
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
>Fight on foot against Orochi and allow Vritra to do her own thing.
>Ride Vritra and drop off of her to land on Orochi. You can apply a concept to him like that!
>Write-in...
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Vritra is based.

We probably don't want to be touching Orochi , so we should stall fo time using tactics, right?
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>>4765492
last update?
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>>4765498
Maybe.
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based Vritra, now i like her

>>4765492
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
Orochi ain't dying from this fight, we gotta stall for as long as possible
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>>4765492
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
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Do we CF support running into us now? Or did it get cucked because Zorochi has TA juice still?

Anyway, our RM probably did make us immortal if shit like Lair of the Beast King exist as RMs.
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We should call our allies i guess?
Does the fluffy tail phone work inside a reality marble?
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>>4765510
There's some additional back-up, but not quite as much as there might otherwise have been.
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>>4765493
Yes, touching the snake of cursefuckery without cursecondoms is still a bad idea. And we don't really have much of a choice on how to proceed now that we're alone in a reality marble with Vritra and grandpa. Stalling seems the best option here.
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>>4765492
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
And +1 to if anyone finds a good way to call our allies during the stall.
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>>4765492
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.

Stall since I don't know how we could get fancy. Except maybe trying to do do something like a biiiig Lance of Truth to joust from Vritra.
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>>4765492
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
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>>4765492
Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible while humming ride of the valkyries
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>>4765544
Heh dub dubs
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>>4765492
>>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
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Done for tonight?
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>>4765582
Maybe one more.
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>>4765585
Ok.

>>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.

Is unanimous.
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>>4765492
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
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>>4764945
Sorry about splitting the vote, I was too busy seething and cursing QM, found this out after re-reading the thread. I'll try to not do that next time.

>>4765492
>>4765531
+1 this.
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>>4765492
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
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You make your decision quite rapidly. Vritra might basically be the size of a mountain right now, but your Riding Skill has no size limit. Especially thanks to Alítheia's blessing, which seems to have given you the uncanny ability to somewhat telepathically communicate with dragons you are riding, though it's more a simple method to allow you to give them orders and requests. It's not something so complete as an actual system of communication, unfortunately. It's a one way system that is normally only meant for the use of controlling lesser dragons, and on Dragons like Vritra or Alítheia, it's more a system of mental suggestion. While you can ride Vritra to a degree where she can't throw you off, if she didn't want to follow your orders, she simply wouldn't.

With that in mind, you leap hundreds of meters into the air thanks to the immense empowerment your body has currently undergone and stand on the top of Vritra's head. Honestly, she's so huge right now that she probably can't even feel you. Does this even count as riding her? Honestly. Well, there seems to have been an established mental link between the two of you, so it seems that at least something has happened here.

Orochi doesn't take long to recover to the hit he just received from Vritra, sending three of his eight heads to gouge at her flesh, but Vritra deftly takes a step backwards to avoid the attacks, not one of them manages to even scratch the shining white scales of the huge Dragon of Eternity. It seems that despite Orochi having the strength, size and even speed advantage in this battle, not to mention the fact that with his eight long necked heads he can attack eight times to every one of Vritra's attacks, he isn't actually doing all that well against Vritra! The reason however is quite clear, if this were the actual true Yamata-no-Orochi, the battle would be far more one-sided, but this is Zolgen Makiri controlling the body of Yamata-no-Orochi. Whereas Orochi's instincts would help him in his battles, for Zolgen, he is having to effectively figure out the best way to control the body of the beast all by himself.
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So, compared to Vritra, who has all the experience in her current form that she could ever need, it's really no doubt that when it comes to fighting skill in their current forms, Vritra is very much the dominant fighter in this battle. Though she did choose not to make herself too big, it seems. Meaning there's either an upper limit to how large she can grow, or she simply didn't want to give Orochi the opportunity to strike at a bigger slower target. You continue giving Vritra suggestions for how to act while you stand on top of her head with your arms crossed, kind of disappointed that you can't do more to help for the sake of this battle. But then again, what exactly can you do here? You're basically just observing two mountains vie for dominance in a world of pure white. It's clear from Vritra's inability to really even damage Orochi though, that this isn't a battle that can be won even here. In fact, the only reason for Vritra to continue fighting Zolgen here is so that he doesn't realize that if he were to simply target the world confining him, he could tear his way out of Vritra's Noble Phantasm. So the distraction is very much necessary. Unfortunately, due to the blocking nature of Vritra's Noble Phantasm though. You aren't capable of communicating to any of your allies, all communication has been cut off.

Orochi is clearly getting frustrated by being continually out maneuvered by his flying opponent, and Vritra, seeing a chance to strike Orochi once again, begins to speed downwards, intending to try to bite one of his heads off through severing the flesh of the neck, even if Orochi's body is immensely durable, that much should be capable of at least continuing to distract him, right?

It's at that moment, however, that all eight of Orochi's heads suddenly crane upwards to face Vritra, and each of them have their mouths open, a great glowing white heat emanating from each and every one of them, and before Vritra can successfully complete her attack, eight white hot pillars of flame are being sent racing towards you and the dragon you are riding. Each of the pillars is like a tremendous volcanic eruption, this is the sort of attack that would spell death for anything that it hit.

>Command Vritra to dodge it.
>Command Vritra to counter it with her own breath weapon.
>Try to make a truth barrier around Vritra large enough to block the attacks.
>Shield only yourself, trust in Vritra's Eternal Nature.
>Write-in...
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>>4765696
Try to make a truth barrier around Vritra large enough to block the attacks

We're supercharged as well right?
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>>4765696
>Try to make a truth barrier around Vritra large enough to block the attacks.
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>>4765232
Based
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>>4765696
>>Try to make a truth barrier around Vritra large enough to block the attacks.
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>>4765728
>1 post ID
>based

Unbased
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>>4765696
>>Try to make a truth barrier around Vritra large enough to block the attacks.
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Why not have Vrita quickly revert to smol form and shield you both? Trying to make a mountain sized dome is going to either kill us or be weak af. concentrate all that power into a smaller barrier and maybe even go as far as to fall into Orochi's mouth, let him swallow, then make a second bubble around ourselves and have Vrita get YUGE again, making him explode from the inside out, potentially revealing Kusanagi and more likely forcing him to spend a lot of time regenerating
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>>4765764
Unbased
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Currently Shinji is operating with Vrita's stats due to her RM, so this is the baseline:

Parameters:
Strength: A
Endurance: A
Agility: A
Magical Energy: EX
Luck: EX

>Wearing it greatly increases the user's Divinity, Strength, Endurance, Agility, and Mana parameters. Its strength cannot exceed a certain point due to Mystery in modern society being weak.

Based on the difference between Hippolyta and Alcides' stats, and her punching Alcides through a mountain under the effects of Goddess of War it's going to be at least a full rank of boost above the aforementioned stats, and that's in Snowfield where Mystery is weak.

We're in INS so the modern scuffing of it's buffs should be gone or reduced, so potentially more than a full rank up.

So right now Shinji is operating with EX Mana with another full rank buff from Goddess of War, which might even be two rank ups as he absorbs the Divinity buff as just raw Mana instead.

So actually contrary to what I said earlier, he basically has a near unlimited amount of Mana at this point, it's not even quantifiable it's just effectively whatever the maximum output of his circuits can release.

Why not a Truth Beam in conjunction with Vrita's breath attack?

It's two EX Mana beams with Goddess of War buffing one even further vs Orochi's vanilla EX, spread across 8 heads.

He also has by word of the update, poor control of his form so he might not be able to actualise the full output of Orochi as Zouken has never been one for unga bunga beamu

And conservatively Shinji is currently operating with this kind of statsheet under Goddess of War, but seeing as how parameters are fucky with a + denoting double I'm not sure how to treat it. TL Anon wanna correct this if 'm wrong?

Parameters:
Strength: A+
Endurance: A+
Agility: A+
Magical Energy: EXtra thicc dragon milkers
Luck: EX

But regardless, Shinji is faster than Orochi, potentially matches his Mana output with the Sash. The only problem with dodging him is his sheer size, but Shinji should always get the initiative, especially when Zolgen is having trouble co-ordinating his 8 mountain sized heads.
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>>4764831
kek

>>4764900
Understandable
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>>4765878
The only problem I see with this is scale.
Orochi is thousands of times bigger than us, so unless we can create a beam of immense size we won't be able to stop Orochi's beams.
Instead, we should have Vrita counter his beam while we attack Orochi's heads directly with our deletion ray.
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>>4765915
Why not a wall in front of us? and just hydraulic press him into the ground while also shielding against the beam? Have Vrita beam as propulsion? He's standing in a void of nothing too so it's not like he's pushing against the floor or anything. Just splat a giant chunk of him and it'll cost less to maintain than a fullsize bubble which might not be able to be sustained due to the output cap we have based on circuit count.

Or we could do the have Vrita go smol, Truth Bubble around us both so it's super fucking strong, let him eat us inside the bubble then explode him internally by just continuing to expand the bubble outwards?
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Alternatively, Shinji's Reinforcement lets him Kaioken x10. If we go by parameter rules, A Rank is a value of 50, A+ is 100, A++ 150 and A +++ 200 - which means Orochi sits at 200.

Even if Shinji is only starting at A, or 50 if he reinforces himself without even considering the Sash he reaches over 2x Orochi's strength for a moment, so we could hypothetically punch out a head being launched at us.

WhatIs when you're alive again do you want to confirm you're going off these rules or if Shinji's reinforcement isn't actually just Kaioken x10?

https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Parameter_Rules
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Have we ever actually seen how big a buff the sash actually gives us? I figure with our Appraisal of Treasure and it being freely given to us we must have but I can't find mention of it on the status sheets.
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>>4765936
Problem is it's never outright specified in F/SF as of yet either, but it lets B Rank STR A rank AGIL Hippolyta not only blindside Alcides through EOTM True B but launch him DBZ style through a mountain with a single punch.
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>>4765927
We might be able to create a wall of that size, but exerting force on it will be an issue.
We've never been shown to have the ability to move our constructs around through will alone and blocking that arrow proves that truth constructs aren't immovable, so if we try to interpose a flat wall between us and this attack it might come flying back at us.
A also doubt Zolgen will just swallow us like a marble.
>>4765933
Once again, scale becomes an issue; even if we have an immense powerlevel right now we'd only be able to use it with our human sized limbs.
Zolgen is basically the size of a conglomeration of mountains so even if we have similar or greater parameters I don't think we'll be able to cqc this dragon.
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>>4765950
Alcides is also A Agility
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>>4765952
Cast Truth Fist in the style of Sanzang's Five Elements Mountain - Shaka Nyorai Palm?
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>>4765626
Don't sweat it anon. We stood no chance whatsoever.
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It's a real shame Shinji never tried Truth based Item Construction. A Magic Cylinder or Mirror here would be pretty funny, just NO U the beams or store them in a vessel to be released later
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No autist >>4765765
No
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Sorry I meant sakura autist
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>>4765977
I'm not sure Shinji can maintain a mountain sized bubble durable enough to tank an eightfold Orochi beamu. Not due to lack of energy, but due to limited output capacity.

There's a reason it's not a vote yet, it's throwing out ideas to see how retarded everyone thinks they are
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wait what the fuck so apparently Fate and Tsuki being in different worlds was a retcon? Apparently Nasu changed his mind when FGO started releasing and had it so they happened in the same exact timeline
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>>4766001
A million Nasuverse timelines and Tsukihime has to share one with fgo.
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Ok so basically the reason why Narita is almost ignoring lore with Fate Strange Fake and having Dead Apostle Ancestors show up is because the story was created before the retcon even happened and he just ignored whatever Nasu ended up doing after FGO released, so blame FGO if you don't like the fact that Tsuki and Fate are incompatible for whatever reason
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>>4766001
>>4766008
Among the other problems with this, F:GO is the one timeline where Primate Murder is definitely Fou. Nasu was off his meds again.
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>>4766016
Can't say I blame him, really. It's dumb to retcon your universe because you want the murderdog to become a fluffy pet.

I thought the split had been decided earlier though.
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>>4766024
it seems the split happened because of FGO. I mean, Nasu even talked about Tsukihime and FSN as if they happened in the same timeline once upon a time, there's literally no reason for him to say that Tsukihime happens a month before FSN if they weren't in the same timeline for example

https://www.reddit.com/r/typemoon/comments/i15iqm/could_the_types_become_servants/fzxxf2b/
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>>4766024
Split happened early on, but he unsplit it so Nukihime and fgo can be in one big Nasu cinematic universe.
This means plenty of fgo references are going to be shoehorned into the remake.
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>>4766028
>>4766031
I'm getting some mixed messages here.
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>>4766028
He initially split the timeline so he could avoid having to write around Dead Apostles in Fate, so he bullshitted and said DAA tier and above Dead Apostles and True Ancestors can't exist in worlds where Servants are a thing.
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With energy not being the problem right now, why not try to make Truth barrier with reflection quality?
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>>4765696
How far out can we manifest truth barriers? Can we create a truth wall right at the mouths so they get singed by their own attack?
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yk i kinda forget how much of a monster Ciel is and how she's held back by hating Roa, she can get around to 30% Arc if she really pushes herself, stockpiles and uses Roa's magecraft, basically she can get as strong as Gilgamesh. No wonder she can fight servants

>>4766041
Truth is a gas guzzler but our circuits are at max capacity, we have Alcides's magic sash of power and we have Vritra's absurd parameters in her RM which clocks in at EX for magical energy, so its looking pretty good for us
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That sash is going to become part of our Servant kit, isn`t it? Ares is going to seethe so much.
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I will just trust in the spirit of kaiju fight.
>>4765696
>Command Vritra to counter it with her own breath weapon.
Vritra is anti-Beast, anti-Threat to Humanity, has lesser form of Truth (Asha), we seen that Alítheia did with her Truth breath weapon and currently her breath buffed by Asha Vahishta and help of Counter Force.
>holy purging flame that can incinerate anything in existence is at the command of Vritra
She is going to win this clash.
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>>4765696
>>4766106
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Should we also try beaming along? Maybe hit a head shooting rather than contest directly.
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>>4766226
I don`t think we can do mahou shoujo related powers without Amethyst but
>Well, you'll have access to all of the power I have in my humanoid form for yourself while I've taken my dragon form and we'll both constantly be replenished with Magical Energy by the Counter Force itself.
Going by her normal movers in FGO
https://youtu.be/0cxhYDkG1fo
And that we seen so far we should be able to:
1. Use her offensive fire barriers
2. Use her flame and lighting attacks
3. Spam her spears
She was using
>Spear that Penetrates with Truth - Asha Vajra: A+ Rank Anti-Unit Noble Phantasm
>An upgraded version of the original Vajra, a spear that can be thrown at any target and, using the power of Truth, will ensure it both hits and bypasses any armor, dealing a set amount of damage equal to an A+ level attack to an opponent no matter how much magical energy or effort is put into the attack. Even the lightest touch will ensure this spear hits an opponent it is targeted at, should the wielder wish to hit them. While the Vajra is a weapon that breaks upon being thrown, Vritra can create additional Asha Vajra through using her own magical energy.
Quite a lot during first phase so we might be able to get better use of it here ourselves. With unlimited energy here we can just spam our hearts out with it and barrier traps with Truth flames.
Maybe even her human form breath weapon? We should have gotten her Dragonkind skill too. And it has Battle Continuation, Mana Burst (Flame), Monstrous Strength and Natural Demon skills.
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What's winning
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>>4766260
>Try to make a truth barrier around Vritra large enough to block the attacks.
Is in the lead
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We could try
>Command Vritra to counter it with her own breath weapon
>Start raining down maximum possible number of Asha Vajras aiming at heads, preferably eyes
>Use Truth flame, offensive barriers and lightning attacks of opportunity to use them well arrived
>Overcharge all of the attacks with Truth
I assume every Asha Vajras can be made into Broken Phantasm. If EMIYA can do it like he does so she we at least here.
>>4766260
Looks like four barriers versus two breath attacks at the moment.
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>>4766263
Support
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Then... calling in 20

>>4766263
Noble Phantasms and Personal Skills aren't shared.
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I don't know if we get Vritra's NPs and Skills though, so I don't think we can throw Vajras.
Truth flame, trugh lightning, etc is good though.

>>4765696
>>4766263
+1
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>>4766265
Did we also get Vritra's Mana stat for big energy pool? And how good is our environment for sucking in energy using our Blessed Circuits?
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>>4765696
>>4766263
Support
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>>4766263
>If EMIYA can do it like he does so she we at least here
So should we. Brainrot.
>>4766265
I see.
>Use Truth flame, offensive barriers and lightning attacks of opportunity to use them well arrived
Do we have those things? She uses them pretty casually.
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>>4766269
You do currently have her mana stat, yes.
And the environment is very good.
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>>4766273
>Do we have those things? She uses them pretty casually
You can replicate it all with your natural abilities.
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>>4766275
Can we combine our ability to convert our magical energy to Holy with other elements like shooting holy fire or holy lightning or even truth holy fire, or only one or the other?
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>>4766273
Is the "offensive barrier" like the thing we used for Pegasus? We could also try just making a giant Truth sword or Truth lance, since they shouldn't actually have weight.
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>>4766277
You can only apply one attribute like holy or truth to something at once.
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>>4765696
From >>4766106 to making >>4766263 my vote.
Not even sure we know about whatever or not we have access to Asha Vajra in-character. It should be a second delay anyway before we switch to other powers.
>>4766275
As with runes it is sometimes hard to determine what we can do at the moment.
And with her telling us about sharing her human form powers I got the impression she shares everything with all correlated bonuses.
>>4766279
Look at >>4766250 video here. Her extra attack. Explosive cube with flames inside of it.
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If we're using elemental attacks, I'd suggest using purely lightning element if we can. Both because Orochi himself is using fire and because his big enemy is Susanoo, even if he used trickery and a sword to kill him. Every little bit may help.
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>>4766283
I think Truth overwhelm normal elemental tablet.
We could try to Truth ice him since grandpa is a huge snake at the moment though. It worked on Chiyome.
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>>4766283
Cold is the conceptual weakness of snakes, if you want to try an element. It was super effective on Chiyome.
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>>4765696
changing from
>>4766263
To
>Command Vritra to counter it with her own breath weapon
>Use Truth cold/ice, long Truth weapons like elongated lances and swords, offensive barriers and defensive barriers if needed to support Vritra's own efforts by hindering Orochi by attacking his heads/throats and disrupting and immobilizing him.
>Overcharge all magecraft and efforts with Truth as much as possible and draw as much power from CF and area as possible for efforts.

Something like this? I think a huge lightsaber/lightlance could be useful if we want to try disrupting and damaging him a bit, maybe make him angrier and lose track of time more. Cold is here, varied barriers. Running support for Vritra.

Since Truth weapons are just elements, we should...? be able to just make them super big and/or long and if we can't its not big loss.
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>>4766293
My original that I changed from
>>4766266
To
>>4766293
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>>4766293
More coherent than my version so I would support it since now we know about impossibility spear spam and that anti-Beast qualities are not shareable.
But I think vote was called 15 minutes ago as >>4766265 time
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Changing from >>4766263
to>>4766293
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>>4766296
I haven't technically started writing yet, so I might just wait to see if you can come to an agreement.
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>>4765696
From >>4766282 to >>4766293
>>4766299
Thanks.
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>>4765696
Switching from >>4766272 to >>4766293
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>>4765696
>>4766293
+1
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>>4765696
>>4766293
+1
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>>4766293
Support
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You give Vritra a mental command to counter the eight great pillars of flame with her own breath weapon. You don't know just how well she'll be able to manage though, considering it's one jet of flame against eight, but with any luck, the intensity of her own flame within the Reality Marble like world is of superior quality to that of Orochi's own flame.

Vritra does as you command nearly instantly, letting out her own jet of white hot purging flame to clash with Orochi's own stream of death. When the two meet, there's a pulse of energy that nearly forces you backwards despite the immense strength your body currently has, like an almighty shock-wave that alone would level an entire city in moments. A normal human even being nearby when these two titanic beings met would surely be killed simply as a result of the attacks having such a terrible effect on the world around them! Even an average Servant wouldn't be able to survive in conditions like this!

The eight jets of flame meet with Vritra's single jet of flame, and amazingly, the two of them seem to be perfectly matched. The flames clashing against each other are incapable of overwhelming the other, and end up meeting in the middle of the distance between the two great dragons. A battle for supremacy beginning over who has the greater breath weapon. When it comes to stamina however, there's really no point in trying to draw this out. Orochi has an effectively unlimited supply of energy, and Vritra is eternal. The two dragons could keep this up forever and nothing would change.

So that means that you're going to need to get involved to help Vritra. The two dragons are locked in a stalemate now, neither of them can break away from the attack now without leaving themselves wide open to the breath of their enemy, and it appears that neither of the two wish to actually allow themselves to be hit by the breath attack of their enemy. You understand quite well that if Vritra was to simply attempt to use her eternal constitution to take the attack, then while she might not be killed, the flames would almost certainly destroy you. Even with as much magical energy around you as there currently is, you wouldn't be able to keep up a barrier of Truth longer than Orochi could keep breathing that flame of his for. Not to mention that even if you created an impassable barrier, you would eventually run out of oxygen. You wouldn't be able to even let air through due to being super heated in nature. Somehow thinking this gives you a slight tinge of Déjà vu.

Luckily for you, you aren't exactly a helpless rider, and you have more than a few tricks up your sleeve, especially in a situation like this one. Not only is there more than enough Magical Energy in the air for you to do some pretty ludicrous things with, you feel as if you're even being supplied with magical energy from somewhere else as well. So, seeing as you know just what snakes are weak to, and such things applied even to Chiyome...
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You raise a hand in the air, and begin to generate and manifest a great icicle. A humongous lance of ice infused with the concept of truth, a freezing mass kept at a temperature of Absolute Zero, that you keep forcing to grow larger and larger, the magical energy in your surroundings might not be enough to sustain a Truth Barrier indefinitely, but it is more than enough to keep indefinitely growing a construct of ice like this one. After almost a full minute of charging up using all of your available magical energy, the added power granted to you by the Sash of Ares, the tremendous amounts of ambient magical energy, the immense empowerment that has been given to you by Vritra and the somewhat subdued support of the Counter Force, floating above your hand is a mountain sized chunk of ice itself, it's just a little bit larger than Vritra's head, and you decide that this is probably large enough for your purposes. If this doesn't work, then you'll start to wield Truth Barriers, but with any luck, this will have the intended effect. The sense of scale that the two dragons are operating on is something that you can't actually match up with without a great deal of charging up attacks. It's fortunate that Vritra and Orochi seem to be at least somewhat similarly matched in this place though.

"Hey! Grandpa! Catch!" You bring your arm forwards, and send the create mountain sized lance of ice careening downwards towards Orochi, the mass of ice shudders before it moves, but it eventually begins to fall down towards your foe without issue. It's at Orochi's lungs, or at least where you gather such things would be based on his body. If he doesn't attempt to block the attack, then his attempts at continuing to breathe flame will be cut quite short!

As expected, Orochi does try to block the pillar of ice. First, a single jet of flame breaks away from the clash to try to melt the ice projectile, yet even the purging white flame does nothing to ice infused with Truth. Another jet of flame, and still nothing. By the time that Orochi has realized the threat that the mountain of ice falling towards him presents, it's too late for him to properly do anything. More flame would do little to slow the fall or destroy the spear of ice, and all Orochi can do is watch in helplessness as the great icicle smashes into two of his heads, smashing them into pulp before it continues downwards before finally shattering when it reaches the base of his neck, freezing and shattering the remains of two of the heads and leaving two frozen wounds where Orochi seems to be quite incapable of regenerating his missing heads.
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"Now! Vritra! Give it everything you've got!" You command the dragon, though this time verbally, to finish Orochi off. With two of his heads missing and incapable of spewing forth flame, Vritra's advantage becomes absolute, and slowly but surely does the balance begin to shift in her favor. Her own breath slowly inches closer to Orochi, who, despite everything, is very much incapable of doing anything about it. You watch in satisfaction as you note the fear in his reptilian eyes before finally, Vritra's flame overwhelms him completely, and in an instant, his six remaining heads are burned away, yet the flame doesn't stop there, his entire body goes up in flames, rapidly burning away as Vritra lands triumphantly in front of the defeated Beast.

Was it really... that easy? Orochi seems to have been defeated utterly in the exchange, but something just... doesn't feel right here. You feel a hot sensation on your neck and notice that the Sash of Ares has actually begun to burn away! It seems that the energy it was being used to put forth was simply too great for it to continue existing. The power of Truth it was being used to help manifest must've overwhelmed it. It's really unfortunate that such a powerful weapon has been lost to you, but you can't even really feel bitter about it. That Sash really saved your ass. "Come on, Vritra, I... I think we're done here." You tell the Dragon to disable the Noble Phantasm, and with a flash of light, the world around you dissolves and you find yourself standing in the ruined Central Chamber again.

Though what you see is... not what you were expecting. Suzuka is kneeling on the floor, using one of her blades to support herself as Zolgen Makiri stands triumphant in the center of the room. No...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UVwKVsIQRs

"Ah! Shinji, that was quite the impressive display you gave me there, but... you can't honestly have expected it was going to work, could you?" Zolgen looks disappointed in you before he smirks. "Let me just tell you this, I am immortal. Truly. There's no way for you to kill me. So long as one of my crest worms exist, I can quickly have it assume my full power should I find myself indisposed. So, for as impressive as your little trick with sealing me into that world of yours was, I'm afraid that it was quite a useless endeavor in the end!" Zolgen begins to laugh wildly. He's no longer in the form of a Dragon, so he's not as powerful anymore, but... With the Sash of Ares gone, neither are you! "Yes, I've been avoiding making myself multiple bodies truly, as I didn't want to split my strength, but... Well, that's not exactly a problem considering that you destroyed my previous body, is it? Even a tenth of my power was suitable for defeating Saber here." Zolgen taunts you, and Suzuka grits her teeth. She's not exactly close to the brink of death, but she's definitely unable to keep fighting.
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"You... bastard!" You yell at Zolgen, is this bastard really unkillable? How are you supposed to defeat somebody who can just keep coming back every time he's killed like this?! His ability to come back to life after conclusively dying is just as bad as the immortality as Roa or Nrvnqsr! So, are you going to have to try to replicate their defeat?

"I've grown tired of dealing with you, Shinji. Even if you've foiled my current plan, when I've killed you, I'll have as long as I need to achieve my goals!" Zolgen suddenly springs forwards, with speed that you can barely even react to thanks to the loss of Ares' Sash, and you freeze for a moment, the only thing that could save you now is if Vritra was fast enough to interrupt the attack, but...!

"I wouldn't be so sure about that, Mongrel." Zolgen is stopped mid-charge as a golden chain pierces through his arm and locks him in place just long enough for another golden chain to pierce through his other arm. A golden portal opens up just to the side of you, and out walk Gilgamesh, Enkidu, Lugh, Sakura, Chiyome, Obeithion, Alcides, Nobunaga... Everyone, though you can't see Ciel still. It looks like the time dilation truly has ended, and your allies have found their own way to you.

The double usage of the Chains of Heaven from both Gilgamesh and Enkidu at once are holding at least somewhat, though even now the chains are beginning to strain to hold the tremendous power of Yamata-no-Orochi. Compared to something like Gugulanna, the Bull of Heaven, Orochi is leagues more powerful even in his current form. Still, he's trapped at least momentarily, so this could be your shot at killing him once and for all! Destruction of the body won't work, so... what?

>"Gilgamesh, use Enuma Elish!"
>"Enkidu, use Enuma Elish!"
>"Alcides, use Olympus se Tartarus!"
>"Ciel, do your thing!"
>"Sakura, use your magic on him!"
>"I'll take care of this myself." Prepare to apply a concept.
>Write-in...
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>>4766351
I'll take care of this myself." Prepare to apply a concept.
Null
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>>4766351
>"I'll take care of this myself." Prepare to apply a concept.
>Respectfully ask Gilgamesh to use a Noble Phantasm to freeze Zolgen's limbs, to be safe.
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>Battle Continuation: A+++
>A skill inherited from his host, and strengthened thanks to his own existence as a god. Yamata-no-Orochi is effectively unkillable, capable of regenerating even from a single drop of blood with no issue due to the nature of the body functioning as his own. Normally, Zolgen Makiri's body would require the crest worm containing his soul to survive in order to ensure his regeneration, but this limitation has been lost due to the nature of Yamata-no-Orochi, every single aspect of his body contains enough of his soul for him to regenerate from. It is possible to even regenerate from ash so long as it was part of his body.
>Even if he were to be completely deprived of a body, through possessing a new host before the dissipation of his soul, he is capable of continuing to exist.
Remember this.
>>4766351
>"Alcides, use Olympus se Tartarus to chain him too!"
>"Ciel, do your thing!"
>"Sakura, be prepare to destroy any physical remnants of him or his worms!"
>"Chiyome, start preparing your purification, cleansing and anti-possession barriers. Prevent his spirit from escaping, go all out, you can use your Noble Phantasm."
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Calling when?
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>>4766376
An hour from this post.
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>>4766351
>"Alcides, use Olympus se Tartarus to chain him too!"
>"Ciel, do your thing!"
>"Sakura, use your magic on him!"
>"Chiyome, start preparing your purification, cleansing and anti-possession barriers. Prevent his spirit from escaping, go all out, you can use your Noble Phantasm."
>Use your flames of Truth to destroy every last remnant of his trapped body, as well as his trapped soul.

Flames of Truth should work. We were able to cleanse Sakura of the crest warms completely without harming anything else. We have used Truth to affect that which is possible, but we can also have it do the impossible. A sword that can cut the uncuttable but cannot cut paper was Shishou's example. Our charsheet states "Truth abhors impossibility", and what is more impossible than Zolgen's current method of immortality?
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>>4766351
Switching >>4766379 to
>"Alcides, use Olympus se Tartarus to chain him too!"
>"Chiyome, start preparing your purification, cleansing and anti-possession barriers. Prevent his spirit from escaping, you can use your Noble Phantasm."
>"Everyone! Attack him with everything you've got Go all out!!"
>With grandpa weakened by the attacks of your allies, use your flames of Truth to destroy every last remnant of his trapped body, as well as his trapped soul.

Actually, we have a lot more people that can do something than just Sakura and Ciel. Let's see what they've got.
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>>4766379
>>4766398
Some things to keep in mind:
1. He might still have few crest worms scattered around
2. We can CS boost Chiyome
3. We can try to create barrier inside Chiyome`s barrier and fill insides of that barrier with Flames of Truth loaded with concept of "Total Annihilation of Body and Soul"
4. We can contact Arcueid and ask if she got her powers back to confirm if he is gone for good
We are also unaware how good will Lance of Longinus will go against him. But it should be something permanent.
And we need to heal Suzuka afterwards. She stalled him long enough.
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>>4766398
i dont know if having the rest of our allies attack orochi is a good move. I'm kind of paranoid of the fact that orochi's other servants haven't appeared yet. grandpa might cs them in and try to use to them to stall for time to break from the chains. i think we should have the rest of our allies be ready to intercept orochi's servants.
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>>4766407
If we kill his soul now, having crest worms around won't matter. I would support a revision of putting the flames inside the barriers, as you suggest. It's a good idea. We'll ask Arcueid after we're done, and yes healing Suzuka and Para are next.
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>>4766410
>orochi's other servants haven't appeared yet
If Merlin hasn't dealt with them yet, he is completely useless and deserves to be garden gnomed. And grandpa would have almost certainly brought them in already otherwise.
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>>4766413
You're just looking for excuses to garden gnome Merlin.
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>>4766416
I'm leaning towards a simple berating, actually, but it really depends on what he's actually done to save the world, other than block our scrying and teleportation.
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How about
>"Alcides, use Olympus se Tartarus to chain him too!"
>"Ciel, do your thing!"
>"Chiyome, start preparing your purification, cleansing and anti-possession barriers. Prevent his spirit from escaping, go all out, you can use your Noble Phantasm." with CS and Truth boost
>"Obeithion, use your Hope of Camelot!"
>"Everyone else, be on your guard!"
>Create barrier inside Chiyome`s barrier and fill insides of that barrier with Flames of Truth loaded with concept of "Total Annihilation of Body and Soul"
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We do not really want pieces of him or his blood being scattered around more than necessary.
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>>4766422
I still think we should have everyone attack grandpa.
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>"Alcides, use Olympus se Tartarus to chain him too!"
>"Obeithion, use your Hope of Camelot!"
>"Chiyome, start preparing your purification, cleansing and anti-possession barriers. Prevent his spirit from escaping, you can use your Noble Phantasm."
>"Everyone! Attack him with everything you've got! Go all out!!"
>Create barrier inside Chiyome`s barrier and fill insides of that barrier with Flames of Truth loaded with concept of "Total Annihilation of Body and Soul"

Something like that
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>>4766422
I am not 100% sure Hope is good because Alcides and Gil might reject it and that super debuffs them? Gil due to pride of not being artificially made Hopeful and Alc due to it being nonhuman elemental shit which is Gods minus faith. But I am also not sure its a bad idea as I cant be sure they WOULD reject it.

"In addition, morality is improved massively and mental fortitude is strengthened, one with hope shall never run away, no matter how dire things may become. Those who would reject this hope however, are weakened by a great deal, and have their parameters lowered by a single rank each."
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>>4766435
Why would they reject Hope? Gilgamesh is prideful yes, but with his clae and his girl and his Ishtar in a bottle it is the first day in millennia that he can hope for a better future for himself. And Enkidu is no more artificially created than Obeithion was, I see no reason Hope wouldn't work on him after we liberated him from the chains of fate.
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Medusa can seal us inside Pandemonium Cetus to prevent him from summoning help or escaping from here.
>>4766426
I am not fan of that because of >>4766424 this reason. The less of him scattered around the better.
Ciel and Lance of Longinus are few exceptions that should have really strong resistance to that.
>>4766435
>>4766439
Gil was cool with hope last time.
I think Alcides is in pretty good mood to have hope right now. With all things that happened today.
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>>4766439
The problem isn't Obei being artificial or there being nothing to be hopeful about. Its like telling Gilgamesh he needs actual magical effects to be strong enough and to have hope and morality forced unto him.

Based on what I understand about him, the problem is that its an external imposition. Even when CS'd, he just takes the 3 CS as "3 favours the summoner can ask"
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>>4766446
>>4766444
If Gil was cool with it last time, sorry. I forgot.

>>4766422
>>4766351
+1

Don't want everyone to fire off so they dont get in each others way like Enuma Elish blowing up Ciel who wants to stab or etc. And only a few like Lance of Longinus and Tartarus are anti immortality enough imo.
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>>4766435
As for Alcides, if all the crapping on gods we've been doing lately doesn't give him Hope the what will?

>>4766444
Most of the attacks should not spread blood and gore around. Grandpa is more resilient than you assume. Any loose pieces that happen to be created will be annihilated shortly, if not by an attack then by our flames of truth.We risk not weakening him enough if we hold back.

>>4766446
As that other anon said, Gil already accepted hope once. He'll be fine. It's not forced on him, it's something inspired in him.
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>>4766351
Switching >>4766379 and >>4766398 to make >>4766433 my final vote.
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>>4766351
>>4766422
Support
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I don’t think we should even mention Ciel, she knows what to do and even sliver of attention could disrupt her concealment
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>>4766461
This is a good point. Also, if you let everyone blow him and want to finish him off, maybe applying a concept would be better, if hes so destroyed that we can go closer.
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>>4766465
Touching him probably still a bad idea. Let's try that only if the flames don't work.
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>>4766351
Going from >>4766366 to >>4766422 as my vote
>>4766454
I am with >>4766452 anon here. If let`s say Lugh get close to grandpa snake head might appear to eat him like it happened with Lobo.
>>4766461
>>4766465
>>4766467
I think due to amount of strong people present Ciel will wait for command rather than engaging on her own.
If he survives all of that than in next vote we just make Chiyome give us extra protection and concept him with something bad.
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>>4766351
>>4766422
Support
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>>4766468
I think you guys are severely underestimating grandpa again if you think anything else than going all out is going to finish him off when a mountain of True ice and Vritra's breath didn't, but I've said my piece.
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>>4766351
>>4766433
Supporting
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>>4766471
He might be willing to let himself get hit so his torn off leg would fly to the other side of the room to escape from barrier or something like that.
Both ideas are gamble in that regard.
And if we were super autistic about that we would just ask Vritra to go for second round of Asha Vahishta.
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Right, what won?
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>>4766474
>Both ideas are gamble in that regard.
True enough. Having only Ciel attack him is a gamble that fails if it ends up not being enough. Going all out is a gamble that fails if it ends up being too much. I know what I'm betting on, and we can't convince each other, so let's just see the votes now.

And Asha Vahishta didn't kill him off the first time, and we no longer have Ares's Sash. What makes you think the second time would go any better for us?
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>>4766478
>>4766422
i think this won
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>>4766480
I thnk the point of a RM would be to have him inside a enclosed space.
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>>4766485
Yeah, but the point of everything we do now is to kill him, not stall him. How does Vritra help?
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>>4766480
>>4766485
>>4766487
>And Asha Vahishta didn't kill him off the first time, and we no longer have Ares's Sash. What makes you think the second time would go any better for us?
I was under the impression that was because he left piece of him behind and reformed from it. We could go with some other ideas to kill him for good inside of it with unlimited power and him being weaker and not being giant snake.
Anyway, since both variations include Chiyome and Obeithion, I am more or less fine with either since we are taking care of
>Even if he were to be completely deprived of a body, through possessing a new host before the dissipation of his soul, he is capable of continuing to exist.
This part.
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>>4766491
We no longer have ultimate power without Ares's Sash, and he can turn into a giant snake in an instant. Pulling him into a Reality Marble also frees him from Gil and Enkidu, wasting their entrance. I see absolutely no point.

Anyway, QM called for your minimal force version. Let's hope it's enough.
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>>4766351
>"I'll take care of this myself." Prepare to apply a concept.

The concept has to be something that will spread to everything he's connected to. Any ideas? Cancer etc.
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What's the point of calling out to Ciel? She's in stealth why break that. Just let her use her own judgement to attack.
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Uhhh, gotta get some groceries so update might take some time.
While I'm away though, why don't you tell me what sort of activities are you most looking forward to getting to have all your Servants experience in the modern world?
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>>4766672
Sex
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>>4766672
Trying to find a hobby or finding out how their lives/legends were adapted. . . Especially the weird adaptations or beliefs about them.

>>4766681
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>>4766672
Impregnation
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>>4766281
>no Quadruple Giga
unbased

>>4766347
>Absolute Zero
huh, now I want a railgun
concept of Superconductivity for Monica when we get there?
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>>4766672
Actually having a good meal to eat with everyone. Actually getting a good nights rest with no worries. Managing our Enterprise. Pranks. Doing human stuff. Having kids with Sakura and Alaya. Moving to the United States. conquering Britian.
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>>4766672
Baby making
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>>4766351
>>4766422
Supporto.

>>4766672
Riding Medea and Sakura!
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>>4766672
>>4766702
Also having a big meal with everyone and people fighting over who cooks what for who etc.
And time with our daughters.
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>>4766672
Servants? I just want to actually interact with them, in any way. It's been ages since we last did that, and we have way more people around now.

Though I certainly wouldn't say no to a second child with Medea.

>>4766702
>Actually having a good meal to eat with everyone
We should hold an "We killed grandpa!" feast tomorrow to celebrate. With food from all their countries and the entertainment we promised Vritra.
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>>4766672
I want to feed the British Royal family to a cute drunkard oni.
Televise their executions .
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>>4766719
We should probably invest in a chastity belt.
I fear for what Sakura might do to us tonight.
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>>4766724
>I fear for what Sakura might do to us tonight.
A) Tonight, when this is over, we get Sakura and Medea together in an empty bedroom
B) We tell them we love them both
C) Wait and Hope
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>>4766728
I can't believe Dantes is going to take our first time.
How scandalous!
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>>4766672
Just chill down, have fun and eat good food made by us/shirou/EMIYA/tamamo
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>>4766728
We can always kill ourselves if they start the apocalypse. So it sounds good.
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I'm actually looking forward to seeing how long it takes the Poos to kneel to Karna.
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>>4766728
get Hope buff from SAlter
RM from Satsuki
we will need to minmax it with everything we have, get to work Niggerman

>>4766717
Making Suzuka and Tamamo roommates!
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>>4766750
I wonder how long it takes before they kill each other.
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>>4766717
Also playing arcades with Waver and Shirou.
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>>4766750
I actually think it has a decent chance of working without cheats. We encouraged Alitheia to accept them both as her mothers, we've kissed them both today, and they're not completely blind. It won't come out of the left field.

And even if it doesn't go perfectly, I don't see them launching nukes over this. At worst they'll tell us they need time to think or something.
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>>4766763
Let's set up a vidya contest with a 20 million dollar prize.
Should help attract Jinako.
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>>4766761
I'd give it like 1 minute they already hate each other it only gets worse once they find out they're after the same guy.
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>>4766770
This actually sounds like it could be kind of fun.
Very lighthearted.
It would be a little too long for a Carnival Sketch though.
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Go fishing with Irish Lancers and complain about troubles with women.
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>>4766786
I wonder if we could pull Shishou out of her hole to get the whole set.
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>>4766793
Technically, you have a better shot at accomplishing it here in Imaginary Number Space than you do pretty much anywhere else.

just saying.
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>>4766796
Lets kill orochi first, we can try summoning later.
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>>4766796
Interesting.
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>>4766796
Do even know a summoning ritual? Since I thought it was trying to summon living Scath. . . I guess Casters can.
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Let's go ultimate Rune teacher is possible. Surpass Touko and finally get some use of Runes midbattle because goddamn does Shinji need something combat ready.
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>>4766351
>>4766422
Support
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>>4766796
Shouldn't Touko have primordial runes that connect to Scathach?
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>>4766796
then dont shoehorn us into the next location after we fuck zolgen up
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"Alcides! Use Olympus se Tartarus to chain him as well! Ciel! You know what to do!" You bark out two orders to your allies first, if Zolgen really is truly as immortal as he thinks he is, then you'll have to just take as many actions as you can to make sure that he remains dead for good. He won't be coming back when you're done with him, you can guarantee that. This ends here.

"Alright, feel the power of the chains that bound the Titans! Olympus se Tartarus!" Alcides shouts the name of his Noble Phantasm out triumphantly and starts exuding a tremendous amount of energy, dozens of times more than he was before! Multiple red portals are torn open from the floor and a dozen chains spring out the wrap around Zolgen before they start to try to drag him into a portal underneath his feet. Though it seems to be tremendously slow, as if Zolgen is still managing to reject being dragged downwards somehow.

"You think that you could defeat me with chains forged of divinity? Don't make me laugh!" The red chains begin to creak, before two of them shatter entirely! "I am the one who will consume the gods of this planet!" It seems that Zolgen's control over Orochi is slipping pretty badly. "You believe that you could bind me with the Authority of Zeus?!" two more of the chains snap, and now even the Chains of Heaven being used by both Gilgamesh and Enkidu are straining again. "I'll crush you all!" Zolgen's body begins to swell slightly, as if he is about to explode outwards, but...

A long simple spear is suddenly thrust all the way through his body. His heart pierced through entirely by the Lance of Longinus carried by Ciel, who throws off the Shroud of Matthias as she looks at Orochi. Her face is disgusted, almost as if the very existence of Zolgen is one that makes her feel sick.

"This... spear... You think that it will... stop me? You poor fool." Despite his confident words, Orochi is very clearly suffering, and a great darkness of rot is spreading out from where he was struck by Longinus, his body rapidly being overcome by necrosis and death, before suddenly, the spear itself is repulsed out of his body, almost as if it was dragged out from the inside. "That spear is something that can kill even a god, but it also contains the property of resurrection! You'll never defeat me with the spear bathed in the blood of the Messiah!" Looks like Zolgen is well aware of just what he was stabbed with, and despite his confidence in his own abilities, you aren't so sure. He doesn't seem to be able to heal the wound given to him by Longinus, and though the necrosis spreading through his entire body has stopped, it looks like he can't heal from that either. Had he been an actual human being or somebody who would naturally die from being struck in a vital point like his heart, then there's no doubt about it, Longinus would've killed him in a single strike, yet even now, Orochi is refusing to just die!
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"Chiyome! Start preparing as many barriers as you can around him! Purification, anti-spirit anti-evil, everything you've got! Understand?! You command the loyal ninja to put up some barriers. "If it will be useful, use your Noble Phantasm too!" You are unaware of just what her Noble Phantasm is right now, but giving her permission to use it is important regardless, if she thinks it will help, she'll use it.

"Yes, my lord!" Chiyome springs to action and starts throwing around an incredible deal of ofuda around Zolgen, dozens if not hundreds of paper talismans float in the air in a ring formation around the evil magus in the form of a god. "My Noble Phantasm won't help here, unfortunately!" She looks at you for just a moment as she dashes around Zolgen with incredible speed and reveals that whatever her Noble Phantasm is, it isn't something that could be used to help you against Orochi in a situation like this. Unfortunate, but she's powerful enough as a Servant without needing to rely on a Noble Phantasm, as far as dealing with curses, there isn't a Servant more powerful than Chiyome is now. In fact, with her abilities, it would be quite simple to forge a partnership with any Servant that suffers from any sort of curse that couldn't normally be broken. Somebody like Rama, for instance, would possibly even betray his Master if it meant being able to get the curse that keeps him eternally separated from his beloved wife removed.

"Obeithion! Use Hope of Camelot! Empower everyone here!" You shout out your last order to the Fairy Queen, who is quick to respond as she flies up in the air and begins to gather the magical energy needed to activate her immensely powerful group strengthening ability. "Everyone else, be on your guard and be prepared for anything." You begin to walk towards Zolgen, who is still bound in many chains with a great necrotic wound where his heart should be. If Zolgen's body weren't composed of many different beings like a sort of colony lifeform, he'd be dead already, but he's basically an immortal self-replicating being, so long as one of his crest worms or even his soul survives, he'll be able to live on. You can feel the activation of Obeithion's Noble Phantasm strengthen you, even if you aren't quite paying attention to her, Hope of Camelot was activated.
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So you'll make sure that there's nothing left! Even if he's left another Crest Worm laying about, you'll incinerate his very soul! You take a step into the ring of ofuda set up by Chiyome, and Zolgen snarls as you approach. "This won't stop me for long, Shinji. Nothing will stop me for long. I've become truly immortal now! My long dream of immortality has been fulfilled, and now I'll use this immortality to grant humanity a world free of suffering or hatred! Stop getting in my way!" The bound man doesn't seem to understand the situation that he's in, and you form a barrier of truth around him, all of the chains binding Orochi dematerialize as the barrier forms around him, and you aren't sure if that was the doing of the Servants or of the barrier itself, but it doesn't matter.

"No, Grandfather. I'm afraid that this is where it ends." Sakura walks all the way up to you and Zolgen as you look down on him. "For Sakura's entire life, you tried to cause her to suffer for your own ends. Somebody like you doesn't deserve to live, never mind create a utopia. You were willing to go to such evil extremes to achieve your goals, how could you ever be trusted with the fate of humanity in your hands? How could anybody ever trust somebody like you with that power? You're the reason that Zelretch judged the Matou as inherently evil! You might think your ideals are noble, but you just want to be in control! You don't want to save humanity!" You yell at the man, who has his face twisted into an angry snarl.

"You just can't understand what I'm trying to do! Humanity will never find happiness on their current path! They need somebody to guide them!" Zolgen beats uselessly against the side of the golden barrier sealing him off from the rest of the world.

"Then if somebody has to guide humanity, I shall guide the way, not you." You hug Sakura close to you. "Now, for what you did to Sakura, and what you would've forced onto this world, I sentence you to death, Zolgen Makiri." You suddenly form a ball of flame in your hand, out of Truth. But it's not just any flame, this flame is composed of a very special concept. "Total Annihilation of Body and Soul. That's what this flame is."

"You wouldn't..." Zolgen's eyes widen in alarm as you bring the flame towards the barrier of truth, and the small ball of flame easily passes through the usually impassable barrier. "Shinji! Listen to me! I could've made everything right! It would've all been wo-"
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"Shut up." You cut Zolgen off as the flame touches him, and after that point, the only thing that he's capable of doing is screaming, the sound of a soul being burned. But it's not just the soul of Zolgen that is destroyed, the soul and existence of Yamata-no-Orochi and Barbatos is also obliterated, you stare at the flame for a moment, and as you do, a curious image springs to your mind...

>A lost child, wandering without reason.
>A peerless blade, forged of divinity.
>A man standing above a fallen god.
>A calamity being averted.
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Good job, lads.
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>>4766882
tough choice... the child, or the calamity?

>A calamity being averted.
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Yes! Burn, grandpa, burn! Burn for Sakura's sake!

Ahem. Now, the blade is obvious, but what might the other images be? Can't think of anything.
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Oh shit we RIP'd Yamata-no-Orochi. Did we destroy some part of Nature or was it already integrated into Physics?
A lost child, wandering without reason.
Maybe Zolgen himself before he got his grand dreams or love of Juzteaze?
A peerless blade, forged of divinity.
Probably Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi?
A man standing above a fallen god.
If this is still related to Orochi probably Susanoo having killed Orochi?
A calamity being averted.
This is probably Goetia's plan and maybe the entire 72 Demon Gods system being BTFO by erasing Barbatos completely with Truth.

I don't know what to vote for though.
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>>4766882
>>A lost child, wandering without reason.
For some reason, this one is calling out to me
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>>4766882
>A lost child, wandering without reason.
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That was a great superboss honestly, we finally completed our initial goal and killed Zouken and completely saved Sakura
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>>4766882
>>A man standing above a fallen god.
Only took 10 years and Shinji acquiring a collection of the world’s deadliest people but wormpa’s finally dead, now it’s time go have a Legate Lanius conversation with the Manakas
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>>4766882
>A peerless blade, forged of divinity.

I am going to choose this just in case it makes it possible Kusanagi survives the flames and just fall out of Orochi or something. Maybe we can give it to Shuten and boost her.

It's probably just what we see due to burning souls, but I am not 100% sure.
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>>4766878
Praise be unto him our Lord, God of all above. All the glory unto thee.
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>>4766882
>A calamity being averted.
Well, that is what we did here. We averted a calamity. Close contention with the lost child I admit. I don't care about the crummy sword at all, or about lording it over a fallen god.
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>>4766882
A peerless blade, forged of divinity.
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>>4766910
we can still get the sword from Shuten, Ibuki-Douji has the sword
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>>4766882
>A lost child, wandering without reason.
Is this Manaka? We haven't talked to her yet.
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>>4766882
>>A lost child, wandering without reason.
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>>4766882
>A peerless blade, forged of divinity.
Despite grandpa being a dick he did give us 4 harem members he deserved to be thanked for that at least.
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>>4766912
Another reason not to go for mere loot when we have so many more interesting choices.
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I am not even sure these are connected to Zolgen or Orochi or Barbatos.

It could also be hints the Counter Force is sending us about something now that we've been connected into it a bit and that we've destroyed a Threat to the Planet they couldn't touch due to stolen TA juice.

Honestly, the "peerless blade, forget of divinity" made me think of Excalibur first, so this MIGHT be CF sending us hints about stuff, and one of them is Manakas managing to call up an APEX to customize and corrupt.

In that case lost child might be OG Avenger Angra who's been basically bitch bullied at this point by everyone who are greater threats and got Hope'd, and the others I don't know.
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Isn't Shuten his daughter? Let's hope this has no timey-wimey fuckery effects on her if we just Roa'd Orochi
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sword is completely useless when we can already find it later, technically Shinji shouldn't know but he can make an educated guess since Shuten in one legend was the spawn of Orochi
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>>4766919
Seems like too much of a stretch. The blade is very obviously Kusanagi, and so the rest of them are probably connected.
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>>4766882
>A peerless blade, forged of divinity.

I want Orochi's sword. We can learn from third Saber when we have time. I just want a way for Shinji to actually fight directly.
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>>4766921
We didn't erase him from the Root, just burned him in the here and now. Shuten will be fine.

>>4766924
Even if we can never find it again, the sword seems the most boring choice by far to me.
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>>4766921
Roa got to never exist in the fist place, here we just annihilate the soul and body.
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>>4766928
The thing is we don't know if this Sword is more powerful considering Orochi was a three way combo.
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I think its extremely funny that Shirou keeps dying trying to Trace swords he shouldn't, maybe it wasn't the best idea to show him every weapon we know
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>>4766932
So what? Is the boring powergaming option really the right one here, when we just btfo'd grandpa the secret superboss without it?
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>>4766933
Eh, it's a learning experience for the sword autist.
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Could be reward, plot hook of vision of the past.
The most related things I can think of
>A lost child, wandering without reason.
Ibuki just spawned somewhere? Or vision of the past from Zolgen`s life?
I am biased to pick it since we have children saving theme going already.
>A peerless blade, forged of divinity.
Kusanagi? Not that much interested in it. Loot is a nice reward but Sword of Truth is always better pick.
>A man standing above a fallen god.
Some nice vanity perhaps? I am not against it but hardly that interested in it.
>A calamity being averted.
Curious about this one.

Really not sure how to vote.
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>>4766880
This was very satisfying. I honestly expected the fight to drag on for a while, but it's nice if for once things work the way you Hope them to.
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>>4766934
Ya because we had to spend extreme amounts of time and luck getting things to win. Hell if we had gone by your vote with the summoning circles we wouldn't have Suzuku and the time Dilation would have killed us.

More combat power means more safety net. Also do we know if the other options aren't power gaming options just in different flavors?
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>>4766932
Another possibility is that we're being tricked still in mindscape and reaching for the Sword is the way to permakill the worm. But I don't think OP would do this to us.
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Rolled 1 (1d4)

>>4766882
I'll let the dice decide for me.
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>>4766940
I don't think the child is Ibuki, when Shuten already exists. Wandering without reason fits pretty well with what grandpa's been doing since he forgot why he wanted immortality for. I went for calamity because I'm curious too, but I'll switch to the child if it means not getting the sword of power.

>>4766944
Suzuka ended up doing very little in the fight. Reality Marble brought down the Time Dilation, not her. And Grandpa wanted to talk, so he wouldn't have killed us before we RMed if we didn't have her.

And do you really want to drag past votes into this, mr "nooo, we shouldn't cut off our own arm"?

Other options might give us power too. Or they might not. But the sword has nothing going for it other than power. It's the boring powergaming option, no other way about it.

>>4766946
Nah, grandpa's soul is burning. I am absolutely sure this is not a trap.
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>>4766946
Nah I don't want to be so paranoid. Maybe the reward is a piece of Orochi combo. The sword representing Orochi, his power or the physical sword.

The boy representing Zouken his power or his knowledge. Calamity could be the demon gods power, knowledge etc and the man over god could be Alaya or just a legend boost.
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>>4766882
You know I’ll change my vote >>4766905 to to my second choice
>>A calamity being averted.
Sounds like it’ll get rid of something annoying in the future
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>>4766951
We didn't need to cut the arm if you go back it was said it freaked out the ninja while the chant would have done all of it anyway.
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Thinking about it some more, I hope the lost child isn't Zouken reincarnating as a child for a second go at life. I hate him too much to adopt him.
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>>4766882
>A man standing above a fallen god.
This one feels the most poignant; we've spent this entire quest fighting against Zouken and finally managed to bring him down.
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>>4766961
Let's not go at this again. WhatIs confirmed cutting off the arm was faster than the Aria AND that it was necessary.
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>>4766882
Calling in 20
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inb4 the choice is which part of this event serves as either becoming part of our potential HS legend or which part catalyzes a summoning, maybe started by CF.

Since the last 3 are basically all part of this event from different viewpoints or different parts of it. There is a divine blade in Orochi, we stand above a fallen god, and a calamity, specifically a god of calamity, was averted.

Lost child is the odd one out, and I am not sure what it is other than potentially Zolgen himself.
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>>4766882
>A calamity being averted.
I think I`ll go with this in the end on a chance that this prevents another world ending threat showing up in the near future and blindsiding us.
>>4766977
Will you tell us about other choices afterwards?
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>>4766882
>A lost child, wandering without reason.
Give us a final snake waifu you old FUCK.
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>>4766882
>A lost child, wandering without reason.
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>>4766882
>A lost child, wandering without reason.
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Honestly, there really wasn't much Zolgen had left in the tank here.
Without ELIXIR on his side, the rest of your allies showing up were enough to handle him.
The amount of anti-divinity attacks available to you meant he was basically doomed.
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>>4766882
Switching from>>4766916 to
>A lost child, wandering without reason.
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>>4766882
Guess I'll switch >>4766910 to the Lost Child as well.

Please don't be reincarnated grandpa, please don't be reincarnated grandpa.
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>>4766882
>A peerless blade, forged of divinity.
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>>4766996
I will admit, while burning him was pretty satisfying, I was looking forward to Alcides and Medusa tag teaming him, Lugh darting around, Aoko using the 5th, etc. I'll take the victory, but I'd have liked to have given our allies a chance to shine.
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>>4767003
Gilgamesh and Enkidu kind of... ruined the chances of that happening, considering their speciality.
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>>4766996
Can you do interlude from someone else perspective on this?
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>>4767007
You said the chains were struggling, I was fully expecting him to be needed to be beaten into submission before they fully worked.
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>>4767014
Yeah, but then you straight away went for Alcides joining in on the binding, then Chiyome also joined in.
THEN YOU JOINED IN.
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>>4767016
Well, I hope you have something suitable prepared for when we storm Manaka's temple. It's no fun to have gathered all these people if they end up doing nothing.
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>>4767020
Plot twist: Manaka packed her things and planeswalked to another world.
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>>4767024
Would be pretty funny, ngl. I find it really hard to see her topping killing grandpa like this.
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>>4767024
Why did the Manakas want to become multiversal gods again? Just because?
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Did you enjoy the end of OrochiZolgen's wild ride?
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>>4767026
You've not actually talked to either long enough to discern their motive.
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>>4767027
>pic
He did have good style.
And yes.

Did we permanently disintegrate Ares' Sash and what does Alcides think about that, if so?
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>>4767027
Kinda wish Sakura had said something. Instead we talked for her.
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>>4767027
Yep
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>>4767027
Learning it was Grandpa in charge and confronting him directly was great. The end was great. I've had some misgivings about some of the parts in the middle, but I think I've made my peace now.

>>4767031
Manaka was even waving at us during our last dream!

>>4767038
I'm hoping she'll say something after he burns for good.
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>>4767027
Thanks for the waifus wormpa
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>>4767038
She was too enamoured with you to properly think of some taunting words to say to Zolgen.
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>>4767027
I wanted to imprint him with the concept of Repentance to force him to be a Beast of Alaya and repent for all he's done, but this is a somewhat satisfying end for an arc that happened because of... Arc.
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>>4767046
Well, she's got her missing power back now, at least?
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>>4767026
Something really dumb like going super yandere on cosmic scale for Arthur.
How was she planning to deal with Azathoth, Nyarly and YHWH after doing all of that? Who knows.
>>4767027
It was great. Glad we got personal boss.
I still feel a bid bad for Arcueid though. We kind of benched her and did rescue the White Princess of the True Ancestors thing. Again,
>>4767044
Understandable.
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>>4766882
>>A lost child, wandering without reason.
Not even for waifu shit, i just like children.
>>4767027
I wish he could have suffered more.
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>>4767044
I'll accept that.

We're already hugging. Will she kiss us now that the nightmare is over?
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>>4767050
You let him get basically one step away from his ultimate scheme succeeding and then pulled it all away from him and set his soul on fire.
There's not really much more suffering he could've gone through.
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>>4767048
She needs to learn how to DODGE
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Fuck Shinjibowl, I'm excited for Ayakabowl
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Anyway, what is winning right now?
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>>4767031
I really hope the bored manaka reason to helping the other one isnt just "i was bored."
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>>4767055
French kiss with Justeaze in front of him?
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>>4767060
Pretty sure it's the Lost Child.
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>>4767055
I guess so.
Oh well, its better than if we failed again.
Also we need to rub in manaka's face how zolgen did her plan faster than herself.
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>>4767008
Support

>>4766882
>A calamity being averted.
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>>4767031
Hope we get a dream with her now that Orochi is dead, also extremely worried that Orochi's servants will go to her, especially since Nero is the second half of Beast VI
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>>4767055
friendly reminder to let us do anything without being shoehorned into another location without our input.

please. i just want to summon skadi and maybe talk to tiamat, now that we're in IMS
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>>4766882
>A calamity being averted.

>>4767008
This

>>4767027
Glad we got rid of the worm.
Kinda wished others could've shined more too but our group is honestly too big.
Perhaps for Manaka like >>4767020 said

>>4767031
That is something we should change
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>>4767070
I'd still vote for us to get out asap. We have Merlin, Waver's group, Monica, Bazett and Cu to deal with. We have Para now, he can make us another portal anytime.
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>>4766882
Changing from
>>4766908
to
>A calamity being averted.
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Should I call for Lost Child then?
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>>4767073
Couldn't Para and Suzuka big brain ELIXIR and turn it into a summoning system?
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>>4767073
Well, he can make another portal if the place continues to exist while not being observed, which is a real danger for somewhere in Imaginary Number Space. It's defined by not being defined unless by force.
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>>4766882
>A man standing above a fallen god.
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>>4767080
ELIXIR is gone.
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>>4767079
I mean, i guess? Its my vote so i'm biased.
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>>4767079
Yes.
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>>4767048
I feel a little bad about how she is liable to feel for being benched after getting gobbed.

We need to thank all our allies for helping us deal with this menace. And introduce Vritra and Suzuka I guess.
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>>4767049
>I still feel a bid bad for Arcueid though. We kind of benched her and did rescue the White Princess of the True Ancestors thing. Again,
Who would Arcueid be if she didn't let highschoolers fight her battles for her?
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>>4767080
Elixir is gone. It couldn't handle the Truth. We'll have to ask Para to build us a new one.

>>4767081
There is no place. Grandpa smashed his base to pieces when he grew to several mountains tall. He got here once, he can do it again.
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>>4767079
Leave it for a few
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>>4767086
>I feel a little bad about how she is liable to feel for being benched after getting gobbed.
She'll redeem herself by soloing Tesla. She hard-counters him, electromagnetism is a natural force.
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>>4767087
Well I guess she IS a princess and princesses do tend to delegate the messy business.
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>>4767094
I don't want to.
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>>4767079
Yes


>>4767083
Damn, well we have like 4 Casters and a big brain Saber so we can probably do SOMETHING, if Zouken can do multiverse genocide we should be able to create something greater than what Chaldea had
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>>4767099
Do you guys really want more characters?
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Rolled 5 (1d10)

>>4767098
Let me roll then
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>>4767102
????
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>>4767102
>>4767098
5 more mins
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>>4767049
Well she's a princess, its kinda her job to delegate

>>4767101
I just wanna fully create the Age of Will and it feels like summoning tons of servants is important, also I want Scathach, Hopeman and Longinus
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>>4767098

>Lost Child
>>4766896
>>4766901
>>4766914
>>4766915
>>4766950
>>4766988
>>4766991
>>4766993
>>4766997
>>4766999
>>4767050

>Kusanagi
>>4766908
>>4766911
>>4766927
>>4767001

>Man standing
>>4766968
>>4767082

>Calamity
>>4766892
>>4766960
>>4766986
>>4767068
>>4767072
>>4767077

Lost Child by far. Please don't be reincarnated grandpa, I don't want to adopt him.

>>4767101
I'd say no, but I think I'm in the minority here.
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>>4767101
_no
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>>4767101
Yes.
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>>4767101
More is better
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>>4767101
I want more children yes
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>>4767101
...yes...
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>>4767101
Just start killing off characters we don't have high bond with :^)
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>>4767101
God no, I barely remember everyone that’s around
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>>4767117
But what if I did the opposite :^)?
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>>4767101
If you are going to do some further world saving arcs on the same or even higher powerscale our own Chaldea would be useful for it.
As far as characters go right now I would love to save Scáthach since she is kind of stuck at the moment and only we can save her.
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>>4767121
You'd be one of the cool kids, like Jokerqm.
Don't you want to be a cool kid?
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>>4767122
You do realize she wishes to die which we can achieve. Just make a deal where we do that in exchange for the totality of her knowledge.
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>>4767121
Just scale things down. We take like 6 or 7 people tops on our Clock Tower infil arc
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>>4767134
Yes. And if our world will go on forever she will spend rest of eternity inside Land of Shadows.
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>>4767137
I mean I'm planning on just taking Sakura, Shirou, Rin and Illya with us and taking maybe only Chiyome. We should act as inconspicuous as possible instead of trying to rawdog it and full on conquer Clocktower
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>>4767134
We made the same deal with Ciel, also we have Shiki, but Scathach is still a warrior so she doesn’t just wanna die, she wants to die fighting
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>>4767140
No professor Medea?
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>>4767143
You're gonna turn a lot of heads when some Greek woman no one has ever heard up just shows up and starts doing things on the level of True Magic, teached Medea comes after we own Clocktower
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>>4767153
Actually probably not. Having families of retard old lineages that are isolated and thus managed to preserve some manner of old Mysteries is not THAT uncommon that it never happens.
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>>4767153
She can hold back, no reason to show her full powers. And I imagine the Clocktower is pretty used to random isolated mages coming in with unique powers.
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>>4767157
>>4767159
>old Mysteries
>unique powers
"Being better than everyone even at their own speciality" is a pretty great unique power to have.
It's something Flat has too.
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As a random example, the McRemitzes were some random mages in bumfuck nowhere who held on to a Mystery of how to manifest an actual Noble Phantasm. No one was suspicious of Bazett, afaik.
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Just realized we need to dismantle the Church and probably fight the Burial Agency, Ciel is on their shitlist and Ciel is our friend, we can probably do that after we finish Clocktower though

>>4767157
>>4767159
Yeah good point, plus we can get Waver to vouch for her, he’s already a very well respected Magus and he's gonna owe us an arm and a leg after we settle his debts, get his Magic Crest back and reunite him with his King
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>>4767164
We'll tell her not to completely humiliate everyone during the application process. Better to catch them by surprise when we move in to purge those we don't want to keep after our takeover.
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>>4767168
You think the Church will forgive us if we send back Longinus with a little word explaining we used it to kill a world ending threat? Maybe add some freshly baked cookies to smooth things out?
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>>4767168
We also had Enhance steal the Lance of Longinus from them. I imagine they're pretty cross with us, yes.
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We probably should also see what the fuck is the deal with Flat.
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>>4767172
She can work as Waver's teachers assistant or something and he can more or less limit what she should or shouldn't do

>>4767174
Well considering that they train specifically to kill Magus and we committed one of the greatest acts of sin and stole the Lance that killed the Messiah... things aren't looking too good
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>>4767188
Just tell them God is totally cool with it.
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>>4767164
>Everyone scared shitless of Barthomeloi 2.0 Even More Broken Edition.
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>>4767168
>>4767174
>Pope is chilling in the Vatican
>tongues of fire come down as the Holy Spirit hands him a note
>"Shinji Makiri is based and did nothing wrong. -Big G"
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>>4767179
It's somewhat ironic that our goals are so close to grandpa's even with what he wanted Sakura for, except we're better in every single way.

>>4767188
Maybe if we also tell them we're God's representative on Earth, and we'll be writing a True Testament shortly?
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>>4767190
Ciel didnt believe we talked to God, you think the church will?
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>>4767188
>>4767190
>>4767194
So we summoning Jeanne d'Arc to act as our
spokesperson?
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>>4767191
I'm very excited to meet her, two egomaniacs at the peak of their craft clashing will be very fun
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>>4767185
Best theory I saw was Flat is some kind of proto magecraft based TA larva, from SF stuff. But desu no one is sure.
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>>4767196
Did she check for blessed circuits?
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>>4767197
Burial Agency is genuinely batshit and sadistic as all hell, they will very well consider Jeanne a fraud and Magus trick. Also Jeanne doesn't agree with what we're planning to do so there's that
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>>4767197
QM hates her, so I doubt it.
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>>4767214
Does he? He never said he did
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In the flame, you can see the image of a lost child wandering the world and you stare in wonder at the strangely lifelike image of the androgynous looking child, not expecting the flame to suddenly become a revelation as it has suddenly turned into. You spend some time watching the flame as the child looks around, its face is contorted with fear, and it tugs at your heart strings. You don't exactly know what relevance that this image has to anything. You wonder if it might have links to Orochi, but you genuinely don't know how this could apply to him of all people, it certainly doesn't apply to Zolgen.

In a few seconds, the flame completely dissipates, leaving... a tiny white snake with red eyes behind. Somehow, this snake managed to avoid being incinerated by the flame, and is chasing its own tail relentlessly. It doesn't seem to have any real signs of intelligence as it chases its own tail either. It's not Orochi or Zolgen, that's for certain. Perhaps... some sort of reincarnation of Orochi then? You aren't exactly certain how life was born in the flame of Truth, but you can't think of any other explanation for it.

"Onii-chan, is it... really over?" Sakura speaks, eyeing the white snake crawling about on the floor with a wary eye. Almost as if she wants to smush the innocent looking creature underfoot.

"It's over, for real this time. Zouken is dead." You know that for a fact. If this snake, which you can only assume to be a reincarnation of the deceased Yamata-no-Orochi inherited even the smallest amount of Zouken's mind or memories, it would certainly not be capable of acting as it is right now. "The nightmare is finally over, Sakura." You hug her tightly, glad to have finally managed to free her from the last thing from her past that could have possibly caused her distress. The existence of Zouken Matou is now gone, for good. You pick the snake up with one hand, and it starts squirming about in alarm. "This snake... I have no idea what this snake is, actually."

"Well, it came off of Zouken, so it's bad news, right?" Sakura has a cold hatred in her voice as she regards the snake with a piercing gaze. "You should just crush it." Sakura doesn't show any emotion on her face as she requests you kill it.

"Well, I don't know, Sakura... I don't think this thing has anything to do with Zouken. I think this is more related to Orochi than anything else." Now, you don't have nearly as much against Orochi as you have against Zouken, but if this is some sort of reincarnated form of Orochi's Spirit in an infant form, wouldn't it be a bad idea to keep it around? You suppose that Sakura might be right, and killing it may end up being the right thing to do, but... It kind of feels like you'd be killing a baby, in a strange way.

>Kill it.
>Keep it as a pet.
>Adopt it.
>Ask one of your allies about just what the hell it is. (Who?)
>Write-in...
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>>4767194
That would've been nice desu, and I don't think Ciel will want to destroy the structure that for all its shortcomings safeguards her own faith and morality, even if she quit the service by having a holy relic stolen.
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>>4767215
I think she was boring and misused in Apocrypha.
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>>4767190
let's chill with the VoG
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>>4767216
So, what were the other options?
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>>4767216
>>Adopt it.

I like snakes.
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>>4767221
Sword is obvious, other two are secret.
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>>4767216
>Kiss Sakura
>Ask one of your allies about just what the hell it is. (Who?)
>Suzuka, take a quick peek with trichiliocosm.
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>>4767217
They kept killing her for a year straight

>>4767216
>>Ask one of your allies about just what the hell it is. (Who?)
Paracelsus probably has an idea as he is a Caster and has been with Orochi for like a year probably
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>>4767216
Adopt it
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>>4767216
>>Adopt it.
We already have dragon child, fox child, meatball child and copy child created by meatball child.
Let's just add snek to the pile.
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>>4767216
>Adopt it.
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>>4767216
>Ask one of your allies about just what the hell it is. (Tamamo, Paracelsus, Medea and Karna)
>Adopt it.

Adopt it anyway, I just want to know more anyway.

Eastern Magecraft expert and god avatar, western modern magecraft expert, western AoG expert and super seeing truth Hindu dude.
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>>4767196
We'll take a page out of Moses's book and challenge the pope to a miracle-off. I think we can take him.

>>4767218
She definitely was. Plus, she's against the dead leading the living. She won't help us.

>>4767224
Intriguing.
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>>4767219
We should call one our attacks this.
>>4767216
>Adopt it.
>headpat snek
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>>4767224
It was Susanoo wasn't it?

>>4767218
Well Apocrypha is ass so there's that
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>>4767235
Supporting Headpats
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>>4767216
>Adopt it
>Headpat snek
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>>4767234
>Plus, she's against the dead leading the living. She won't help us.
Just tell her God said it's alright.
You can always just share the memory of that particular chat.
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>>4767224
I wanted the sword but if this is child Orochi we can be the God(-)father
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>>4767216
>Adopt it.
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>>4767216

>Ask allies if they recognize what it might be
>anyone, but I guess specifically Chiyome?

>Keep it as a pet

It's harmless and presumably blameless. Let's give it a good home.

Also take this as a cue to look for / ask Tamamo about the fox kit, it presumably needs to be cared after too.
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>>4767218
What about in Orleans then?
I never watched Apocrypha anyway.
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>>4767243
Point Assclap to her and make them chat about death and resurrection.
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>>4767243
She fully believed Amakusa was receiving visions from God and still fought him.
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>>4767243
Doesn't Revelations also show her that too?
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>>4767248
>Orleans
Nobody was a character in Orleans.
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>>4767227
Then it should be her call if she feels like the ones who did should be hunted down and given the taste of their medicine. So far she seems too principled for this to me.
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>>4766931
Jobbed again Barbatos
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>>4767251
There's a difference between receiving visions from God and having an actual full on conversation with him.
Like a major prophet.
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>>4767255
Even then the Burial Agency isn't gonna let it go and we're gonna be forced to kill them
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>>4767249
Speaking of, can Assclap cure Okita's TB?

>>4767253
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>>4767256
At least the snake child shares his color scheme.
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>>4767216
>Adopt it.
>Headpat snek
Fourth daughter wasn`t Kiara.
>Somehow, this snake managed to avoid being incinerated by the flame, and is chasing its own tail relentlessly. It doesn't seem to have any real signs of intelligence as it chases its own tail either.
Very cool, Ouroboros, very cool.
>>4767224
I can only that hope our choices ended up for the best.
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>>4767262
Can a magic man who can resurrect people cure TB? Not sure anon
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The fuck are we naming this snake if its sapient.
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>>4767036
Ares can regenerate all parts of King's Order within hours/days if his master keeps him fed
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>>4767259
Well, God didn't really tell us to take over the world or topple the Church. I believe she'll believe we misinterpreted his wishes.

But I don't like her anyway, so meh.
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>>4767271
Ouroboros.
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>>4767264
>Fourth daughter
Orochi is male, this is our first son
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>>4767271
We don't even know if it's sapient or just a pet, and we probably won't find out anytime soon now we're adopting it blind without asking anyone about it.
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>>4767270
As in, like into the Throne i mean

so that it'll stick for all her future summonings
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>>4767271
Link
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>>4767271
David
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>>4767216
>Adopt it.
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>>4767270
Its difficullt because its part of her legend and identity as a HS, supposedly. So it can be done by modifying how she is expressed as a Servant.
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>>4767273
I like her and feel she had a really bad go in life, I mean she was burned at the stake at age 19
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>>4767261
Sucks to be them, I guess.
We're going to need to be vigilant in general though. Between Agency, Enforcers, DAs, adjacent world threats, whatever renegade hoping to get piece of us...
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>>4767083
ELIXIR lite can be rebuilt through Para's sword though, unless his NP was destroyed and wiped off his char sheet when the main crystal bluescreened
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>>4767271
It's chasing its own tail, Ouroboros, obviously.
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>>4767284
Living Jeanne was great, no doubt about it.

Ruler Jeanne was awful though.
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>>4767275
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>>4767289
best form
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>>4767289
This does not look like a tiny white snake.
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>>4767216
Ouroboros-tan a cute
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>>4767293
if this was Ibuki I would've been expecting an egg or something
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>>4767293
We need to add water.
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>>4767264
>>4767274
>>4767287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjTzGepowCQ

>>4767289
Technically, it hasn't decided on a gender yet.
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>>4767253
That is just plain false.
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>>4767259
>"Hey God, why did you let the literally nicest and purest person in the world get burned at the stake?
>"All part of the plan, don't question it.
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>>4767301
I surgically removed the plot of Orleans from my head.
All I can remind is that Jeanne Alter isn't Jeanne but evil, but is instead Edgy Fanfic Jeanne.
Because Jeanne is 2 good 2 pure.
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>>4767304
That is the plot.
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>>4767300
Can we roll for gender?
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>>4767304
Jeanne Alter trying really hard to be evil but failing and just being an edgy chuuni will never not be funny.
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>>4767300
Can it please be a boy? The gender ratio is more than skewed already.

>>4767303
>Gilles seething
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>>4767216
>Adopt it

>Ask Chiyome, Gil and Clae what it is

forgot Tamamo wasn't here
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>>4767303
He was micromanaging how it turned out so she'd get an overpowered suicide attack that does nothing as a Servant, all part of the plan.

>>4767309
You know what as you're obviously going to adopt it, everyone roll a d2, majority roll wins.
1 is male.
2 is female.
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>>4767312

https://youtu.be/w8-cjd5cdIU

Can we please have a Son yet?
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>>4767300
>Shapeshift, Self-Modification with parts of total immortality and eternity due to being reborn out of total annihilation
Cool snake, I guess.
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4767314
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>>4767313
kek
>Tamamo, what is this snek?
>"Master... Tamamo died five years ago. It's time to let her go. Please, we're worried about you!"
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4767314
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4767314
Hope male, for some diversity
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
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>>4767314
But suicide is a sin?

I guess God hates the french?

>>4767317
Autofellatio snek is based

>>4767320
She's be best able to identify Orochi aspects if she was here
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
istg if the dice are a manwhore as well
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>>4767318
>>4767323
>>4767324
>>4767326
>>4767328
unbased, cursed dice

>>4767325
>>4767322
>>4767321
>>4767319
Based
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Rolled 1 (1d1)

>>4767314
>*inconspiciuous whistling*
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>>4767321
stop deleting rolls you fucking shitstain
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
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>>4767316
>Hits pipe

>>4767327
Doesn't everyone hate the french, including the french?

>>4767329
Why aren't you rolling?
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>>4767330
>"STOP, YOU VIOLATED THE LAW."
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>>4767327
>I guess God hates the french?
Gott strafe Frankreich
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
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>>4767327
pretty sure suicide is not the same thing as self-sacrifice.

Or a cynic would say, it's okay if you take someone with you. Like, say, Samson.
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

I also want to roll.
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>>4767314
>so she'd get an overpowered suicide attack that does nothing
Why does this ALWAYS happen?!
Everytime someone has a suicide attack, it never fucking works.
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
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Goddamn it another character for character bloat. Should have gotten the sword.

Now I gotta wonder what the others are.
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
Please be a boy
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>it's another daughter episode, featuring:
>Serpent of Akasha
>Dragon God Queen
>Silver Key Witch
>Azathoth's Humansona
what do we call this group?
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