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The Grail War continues, and you're fighting against your greatest foe yet, the False Beast, Yamata-no-Orochi, under the control of the man you hate the most.

You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.

To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have shifted the future away from the one that you once would have faced and instead onto one of uncertainty and chaos.

The Fifth Holy Grail War lies ahead of you, and the challenge and danger it represents to you, the people you care for and the world itself is far greater than you could have ever predicted. Though the grail might be corrupted and the war itself might be a sham, the stakes couldn't be higher.

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Last Thread: >>4758455
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You look at the growing body of Yamata-no-Orochi and frown.'A quick change of plans, Suzuka, there's no point in using Trichiliocosm anymore, instead, I want you to use Heavenly Demon Rain on him instead, go for his eyes. You've got the processing power to make them accurate, right? But don't take any risks at all in the fight if you can help it, your safety is important to me, and I'd feel terrible if you were to get hurt for my sake.' You've barely known Suzuka for very long at all, but that doesn't mean you'd be OK with her getting hurt or worse.

'Master, this thing is a Beast. Even if I wasn't fighting by your side, my obligations as a Heroic Spirit mean I'm compelled to at least try to destroy Yamata-no-Orochi... Or I suppose I really should call him your ancestor. To think that a human was capable of devising a plan to steal the body of a god... Oh, sorry, I'm getting a little carried away here.' Suzuka apologizes for going into a little too much detail than was necessary for the situation. Though you can't blame Suzuka for thinking the way she is. What Zolgen managed to accomplish is pretty ridiculous, through turning himself into a vessel of a God and then overwhelming that God through the power of ELIXIR, though with ELIXIR destroyed, his control on Orochi may very well be slipping right now. Of course, he doesn't specifically seem to be having any trouble keeping himself in control though, so maybe he's truly managed to suppress or destroy Orochi's consciousness? If you were in Zolgen's situation where your control over body was entirely dependent on something that may end up being disabled, you'd make sure that it wouldn't be an issue. You're annoyingly confident in Zolgen's own planning abilities to have seen the potentiality of something like this happening though. Then again, at this stage, you don't really suppose it matters all too much on who's in charge of the body or not.

'Alright, just... take care, OK? You quickly glance at the fox-eared girl, who is now wielding her golden sword.

'Of course... Darling.' Suzuka cuts off the mental link with that last word, and you hide a very slight frown before you return your attention to the humongous dragon god. Though it's only at that moment that you realize that he's not simply focused on growing! One of his eight heads is smashing down towards the floor of the chamber! It's... too huge! There's no way that you'll be able to dodge that, wait! Maybe you'll be fast enough to use a barri-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77pR7MjLI_s
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Thankfully, somebody else is fast enough to dodge it, and you feel yourself being harshly grabbed by the scruff of your neck and rapidly carried out of the way of the smashing neck of the dragon beast. Vritra only just manages to get the two of you out of the path of destruction left by a single one of Orochi's necks, already even one of the necks of the Beast has eclipsed ELIXIR itself in size, and the mere act of it being smashed against the floor of the Central Chamber splits not just the room in half, but the entire structure cracks in half! Orochi is somehow managing to manipulate his movement even with nothing but void underneath his feet, a pseudo-form of flight, in which he's hovering in place. Then again, outside of this chamber specifically, you suppose that concepts such as gravity and other fundamental laws of the World of Humanity shouldn't technically have to apply, and Orochi very much is outside of the structure.

"Thanks for the save, Vritra." You thank the tall dragon woman before you glance over to Suzuka, relieved to see that she managed to get out of the way as well, you look over at her just in time to see her throw her golden blade into the air and have it transform into two hundred and fifty separate projectiles to impale Orochi with. Normally, with Blessing of Wisdom alone, she is still incapable of actual precise targeting with each of the blades, but now...

Each of the bladed weapons strike their target, each of Orochi's sixteen huge eyes are impaled with at least ten swords each, the heads start to thrash around in pain as Orochi is temporarily blinded by the attack. "Not bad." Vritra comments on the attack of her fellow Servant, which struck with truly remarkable accuracy, each blade struck true, even readjusting themselves in mid-air to strike their target. This is an attack that cannot be dodged physically, Suzuka's level of intelligence is simply too great for somebody to manage something like that now, no matter how fast or agile they might be, dodging two hundred and fifty projectiles that are working in conjunction with one another to perfectly impale you is simply impossible. The only way to avoid Suzuka's attack would be to kill her before she strikes you with it, or just hope that you're durable enough to survive being struck with two hundred and fifty Noble Phantasms. "But it won't be enough to take him down. His natural regeneration has been enhanced by the magecraft of the man who controls his body." Vritra is of course correct, as even now you can see the swords slowly begin to push themselves out from being embedded deep in Orochi's eyes.

"Then... What about you, Vritra? Do you have anything that might work? What about your second Noble Phantasm? Could that be used here?" You've been wondering just what that second Noble Phantasm of hers is capable of doing, it was one of the few things you couldn't determine about her from a glance when you ended up altering her concept.
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"Well... I suppose but..." Vritra almost looks as if she's blushing as she looks away for a single moment before steeling her face, remembering that you're very much in a deadly battle with Orochi, and even if the Beast has been temporarily blinded, your reprise won't last long. Thankfully his rampant flailing about has this is sort of embarrassing, but you're going to need to be by my side for me to use it, and it might not even be enough to defeat Orochi." Vritra sounds just a little bit awkward about telling you what her Noble Phantasm does, and you wonder what reason she might have for that.

"Why? What does it do?" You're curious as to just what Vritra's second Noble Phantasm could do that she'd specifically need somebody else with her for it. You may have been granted some knowledge of her identity thanks to your blessing, but it doesn't seem to have extended to that aspect of her identity.

"Well... In a sense, it sort of... cuts myself and my target off from the world... Well, that's not quite true, think of it like the creation of a... hmm, a Reality Marble, like the one you almost manifested against Orochi earlier to destroy ELIXIR. Inside that place, I am free to assume my full form as a dragon, my target will be cut off from the world by holy flames that can burn anything to the conceptual level and..." She blushes again. "Well, this is something that I never really did in life, but the one I've acknowledged as my rider will... Well, you'll have access to all of the power I have in my humanoid form for yourself while I've taken my dragon form and we'll both constantly be replenished with Magical Energy by the Counter Force itself. But..."

"What's the catch, Vritra?" For some reason merely asking her that question only causes the intensity of the slight blush to increase. You really don't like how she's acting when it comes to explaining the drawback of her Noble Phantasm.

"...It's activated through a kiss of... uh... love?" Vritra's smile is awkward now that she's revealed the truth behind her Noble Phantasm, and to think, only a few moments ago did this woman seem to be terrifyingly imposing, now she's blushing at the mere idea of sharing a kiss! But... well, you think you might've started blushing too, but now is not the time! Orochi has almost regained his eyesight, and he's still not stopped growing yet!

[Status Updated!]

"You're kidding, right?" The fact that the woman only blushes slightly more is evidence enough that she is in fact not kidding at all. Such a powerful Noble Phantasm being locked behind something like a kiss?!

"So, my sweet rider, shall I... still activate it?" She's averting her eyes from you now. You really weren't expecting this from Vritra of all people, but... well...

>"Yes."
>"No. Just keep fighting as you are."
>"Let me see if I can contact the rest of my allies first."
>"Take me over to Paracelcus first. He could be helpful."
>Write-in...
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>>4764831
OP you absolute madman
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>>4764831
>"Yes."
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>>4764831
>"Yes."
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>>4764831
>>"Yes."
Well we're already gonna die from Shinjibowl so why not
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>>4764844
>already know
But it has nothing to do with Textures and you implied it did
Also you presented it as "lol big dick swingers can't destroy a piece of paper" when it's more like "lol big dick swingers can't destroy a 1m-thick-titanium-carbon-fiber-reinforced piece of paper "
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>>4764831
>"Yes."
I fucking hate you, WhatIs
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>>4764831
>"Yes

We are so fucked when we get out. God damn meme votes gonna get is killed. Kissing Sakura without a proper talk is most likely gonna cause more damage then anyother meme vote to date when everything comes out.
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>>4764831
Having access to Vritra's powers and being plugged into the Counter Force for power is also pretty based. Would let us do some big dick Truth magecraft we usually can't, unga it up like Alitheia or more expensive shit.
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>>4764831
>"Yes."
QM will STILL deny he's a haremfag after this.
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>>4764831
>"Yes."
You're more of a monster then Zorochi.
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Goddamnit, that anon was right. QM really was a haremfag all along.

>>4764831
>"No. Just keep fighting as you are."
>"Take me over to Paracelcus first. He could be helpful."
>"Let me see if I can contact the rest of my allies first."

No. Not even to kill grandpa. Our allies are right outside. As the Nigger said, Para can rip a portal open with his Noble Phantasm, it's a lesser version of the supercomputer. Or Gilgamesh might even be able to bring them over with his Gate of Babylon. What was even the point of saving them, of gathering them, of leading them here otherwise? We should have left them all to chill at the mansion if Vritra was really all we needed.

I realise it's futile to try, but the madness has to stop sometime.
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We should at least tell our allies to help before kissing her, no?
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>>4764868
My implication was that it's retarded scaling shit up to solar-system/galaxy/giganigga level when it doesn't actually really mean anything because you're still nothing compared to Humanity Fuck Yeah that is slowly becoming more and more prevalent.
So why even bother having characters with the theoretical power output that would let them destroy the fucking sun? It's retarded and it's just the same as a child playing pretend.
It's like trying to have your cake and eating it.
Nasu wants retarded powerlevelfaggotry where characters are blowing up the universe from fighting, but at the same time, he's set Types up as the top dogs, so he needs to write an excuse as to why the powerlevelfaggotry works and why nobody has just eaten ORT yet.

>>4764871
Thanks.
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He's got a point. Why gather all our allies if going by ourselves would be enough?
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>>4764831
>>"Yes."
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>>4764884
...
I just want a Kaiju fight.
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>>4764892
This likely won't kill Orochi but give Shinji strength and survivability while executing a different plan. I'm thinking with the power up we can collapse the bubble a shunt everyone outside.
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>>4764831
Yes
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>>4764831
>"Yes."
So much yes.
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>>4764880
Someone colour his hair blue
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>>4764890
>Thanks.
For all it's worth, I fucking hate you too.

>>4764900
We've all been expecting the timely arrival of Kaiju beaky. And you know exactly what you're doing with that "kiss of true love" nonsense.

>>4764901
It pulls us into a reality marble with Vritra and Orochi man. Everyone else is completely useless if this works.
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>>4764900
Where is our friend Beaky?
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>>4764900
Would Betty be able to summon beaky and we have medea port him to us and we give him the concept of kaiju lol? Then we can have a proper kaiju fight with our dragon momma
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>>4764900
You know what you did
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Holy shit QM is the biggest haremfag here.

>>4764831
>"No. Just keep fighting as you are."
>>"Let me see if I can contact the rest of my allies first."

But we all know what 90% of anons will vote for ffs.
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QM might be a haremfag but anons still pick the romantic choice every time
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>>4764915
>>4764914
Asleep because you decided bringing Abby to life was more important.

>>4764912
>We've all been expecting the timely arrival of Kaiju beaky. And you know exactly what you're doing with that "kiss of true love" nonsense.
Well you sent away your other dragon FOR NO REASON.
Don't worry though, this isn't the sort of enemy that is actually possible to be killed in such a manner anyway.

Besides, it's just a kiss.
You've been handing them out like candy today.
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>>4764928
At this point I'm just enjoying toying with you all because I know that if it's offered you'll take the romantic approach every single time.
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>>4764933
>Besides, it's just a kiss.
>You've been handing them out like candy today.
Manwhore Shinji
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>>4764884
>Vritra was really all we needed.
Well, it is true.
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>>4764922
I still realize it's futile to try and go against the current, but we should try to consolidate the "No" vote. We have to hold hope.

>>4764928
We have NEVER voted to kiss a woman we met literally five minutes ago because it would give us ultimate power. This is so much worse than anything else we have done. It's a coomer vote for powergaming, and it renders everything else we've done up to this point irrelevant.

>>4764938
Did I say that I fucking hate you?

And for no reason? WE WERE HEADING INTO A TUNNEL. How could we possibly expect grandpa would have given us infinite space to move into?
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>>4764938
You're right and anons are still giving you shit over it for a hole they keep digging themselves into
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>>4764831
>>"Yes."
>despair that even with all this amount of woman loving you, shirou did still lose his virginity before you
>>4764933
Abby is very important
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I feel like there's one major thing you're all forgetting about what Orochi/Zolgen anyway.
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>>4764948
That we're going to make him look like a jobber?
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>>4764948
Fuck you.
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>>4764884
+1
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>>4764948
His control of the CS?
Is he still in japan for the country bonus?
Fuck this, too tired.
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>>4764946
>for a hole they keep digging themselves into
He literally gave Vritra a skill activated by a kiss of true love for no reason. This is not a hole we dig for ourselves, this is the QM firmly pushing us down the rails. Kissing her otherwise would have been literally unthinkable.
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>>4764948
That if we kill his form he can just possess a new host?
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>>4764964
And yet we're taking that option even though we can bring our friends in to have them wreck Orochi
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>>4764946
You do know we're Chad right? Just because you can't personally identify with this version because he's not a pathetic cuck like you doesn't give you the right to shit on everything.
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>>4764964
>Kissing her otherwise would have been literally unthinkable.
Ha ha.
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>>4764968
Ah.
Well shit, thats true, i think.
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>>4764945
>And for no reason? WE WERE HEADING INTO A TUNNEL. How could we possibly expect grandpa would have given us infinite space to move into?
You were heading to a chamber that you already knew was at least large enough to contain something "small castle" sized and she has a human form.

>>4764945
Look, look, it's not like this is going to be an auto-win. At all. Just trust me, OK? I'm not just about to make all your planning meaningless. Here are some ACTUAL SPOILERS if you want to know why I'm doing this. It's to give your allies the time they actually need to reach you.

>We have NEVER voted to kiss a woman we met literally five minutes ago because it would give us ultimate power.
Comparatively, you spent about as much time with Vritra as you had with Shuten before you kissed her.
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>>4764983
I would have voted for kissing her if she asked.
And yeah, fighting for stall makes sense.
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>>4764983
Also you have had MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES to bring your allies to you through your command spells, yet you don't trust them.
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>>4764938
Remember when you were guilt tripping us over not choosing Medea?
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>>4764990
Paranoia is one hell of a drug.
You should have expected that.
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Wait is the time dilation turned off by the way? If it is then yeah Vritra buys us a solid 10 minutes, QM already said that Sakura would freak out and use Independent Manifestation if we ran away to another universe or some shit
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>>4764994
Haha, good times.
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>>4764983
>no hope
We were pretty close to getting some Hope not so long ago though.
>>4764994
Nyarly is truly our greatest bro.
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>>4764990
YOU TOLD US NOT TO TRUST THEM

>>4764994
He was right we would've saved a lot of time if we chose her
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>>4764973
The coomer vote is strong, I won't deny it. But presenting the option as "Kiss of true love for ultimate power" is pushing his thumb on the scale pretty hardcore.

>>4764983
An underground chamber, that a fuckhuge dragon would have trouble navigating around. Her human form is weaker than her dragon form. This is explicitly why we sent her away, the danger was too great.

>spoiler
I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. "Kiss of true love" is too much. Her and Suzuka can stall without it.

>>4764990
You specifically warned us about going off to fight the creator of the command seals. You stroke the flames of paranoia here.

>>4764997
It is, yes. That's why I'm suggesting we contact them and have Para help rip a portal open if they can't make it here by themselves. We don't NEED to do this.
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>>4764995
I had completely expected you to at least summon Chiyome to you, and later Medea after Vritra got her Nega-Protection skill. Instead you started treating Medea like she would die immediately.
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See, because I'm bothered less by romance I don't see why no to accept the offer. It's also what lets the QM write out a scenario he has already planned for/envisioned so it'll allow smoother story continuation.

I will say though, her being this spaghetti is endearing, and this side of her is more manageable than dragonmummy predator.

If the time dilation is down, Zolgen can CS back all of his servants and we're fucked as we'll be overrun

>>4765013
Might be because she almost got squished by SAlter recently. And with her B Agility Orochi always get turn priority and she has no dodge/precog in combat situations
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>>4765013
Salter almost killed her today. Grandpa is stronger. You warned us about the command seals. I thought we were narrowly avoiding something worse than a dead end with every paranoid decision we made in the forest today, but I guess that wasn't true?
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>>4765019
>It's also what lets the QM write out a scenario he has already planned for/envisioned so it'll allow smoother story continuation.
When have we cared about that? Didn't we have a discussion a few nights ago about how our paranoid autistic write-ins give him the chance to be creative? AND he confirmed that he enjoys it?
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Why don't we command seal Medea in now?
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4 servants, that's 12 command spells in total, I think it's time to just say fuck it and start dumping them. It's not like it can get any worse.
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>>4765006
>>4765008
I was warning you about them because of the fact that Zolgen is capable of magic that replicates magic on the level of True Magic through them.
That was where the warning was coming from.
The fact that he could teleport things.
Most of your allies already resisted his attempt to mind-control and it would be less effective on the second go around.

>"Kiss of true love for ultimate power"
You literally just did this with Sakura.
You even got a free confession out of it.

Besides, it's a one-sided love on Vritra's part, mostly. Shinji barely even knows her at all.
Hell, he only knows anything about her because of his Blessing giving him Dragon Intuition.
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>>4765022
No all paranoia makes sense, you know?
I expected that not all our paranoia would have made sense, i still voted to then because i found it safer.

We probably should vote for vritra and us to stall him while we call for our allies.
Seriously, a kiss aint gonna kill anyone, for now.
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>>4765013
We got pretty protective about Medea after she got almost killed.
It is rather good thing for character growth since I think this was the closest we got to losing someone we truly cared about due to our own direct plan and action?
Not counting times we walked into boss battle unprepared.
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>>4765031
knowing she is a cute chocolate dragon is almost enough for me.
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>>4764864
>>4764831
Switching to
>Command Seal in Medea
>Ask her to teleport and bring in your allies
>"Yes."
There, we stall for time and Medea works her magic when Orochi breaks through
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>>4765031
>spoiler
Ah, so it is fated love!
Arcueid is truly insightful about us.
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>>4765026
I'm not saying go with the default just kissu. It does open up new possibilities though.

My writein from last night didn't assume he'd just go straight for the bonk on Shinji.

>>4765045
is probably fine because Medea has seen us do this all the time, as long as she gets her tongue kiss. I'd add something like have Medea heal Paracelsus then work together to open a path. She has healing magic and the sword amplifies all of her rituals and spells and lets her instant cast complex rituals.
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>>4765013
CS paranoia considering the stoking of it.

This is a stall game for Gil to crack this baby wide open. I don't think we have the tools to win no matter what. I'd rather choose the option that makes Shinji stonk enough not to die until reinforcements come.
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>>4765022
Oh, a lot of the stuff in the forest could have gone really bad.
But Medea is pretty difficult to kill unless you instantly kill her thanks to all the ridiculous magic she has on her side. Being cut in half by Excalibur because she's blindsided would've killed her.
In general though for Medea you need to strike a vital point or cause massive damage.
She survives a casual Gilgamesh impaling her in the Fate Route before he finishes the job iirc.

And again, you don't need to kiss Vritra.
All jokes aside, so put forward your case.
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>>4765051
Yeah Medea knows we're a massive manwhore but she still loves us it's cool probably hopefully maybe
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You have 25 minutes.
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>>4765051
Are you going to do a write in?
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>>4765064
see above
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>>4764831
I'mma go with this >>4764884
with an extra "Sorry" on top.

Although I do want to tell her we care for her, now's really not the time.
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>>4765031
You warned us about going against the creator of the command seals. We assumed this meant he could fuck with the command seals. It is not at all a bad assumption to make. You did not correct this misconception until now.

>Shinji barely even knows her at all
That is PRECISELY what makes this worse than what we did with Sakura, or than when we kissed Medea just to make her feel better. This is explicitly a kiss of true love that we'll be sharing with a near stranger.

>>4765056
If Medea is not in danger from Orochi, she wasn't in danger from Salter. You can't really have it both ways. And things have been going much, much better for us since we got kidnapped, so I feel somewhat justified in thinking our paranoia wasn't justified after all. Especially after you've confirmed the command seal paranoia was unjustified.
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>>4765068
Ya, it's going to be tongue kiss.
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>>4764933
>FOR NO REASON.
How is not wanting to risk your beloved daughter getting hurt not a valid reason?
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Qm said it was one sided so get over it Autist. It's the easiest and quickest way to power up and she'll be hyped as hell
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>>4765074
Dude, why are you so salty.
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>>4764831
>>"Yes."
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>>4765084
Just ignore him. If you let him he'd probably kill off illya just so sakura has no competition.
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>>4765084
Honestly, I'd rather have FGO Guidebook Anon here explaining power levels, then spergautist.
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>>4765076
Ah yes, with lots of saliva to exchange mana.
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>>4765074
Just think of it as a mana transfer.

>If Medea is not in danger from Orochi
But she is in danger from him, I'm just saying that she won't immediately crumple like a bag of potato chips from being in his presence. She was in danger from Saber Alter because she was literally almost cut in two.
As things stand, Sakura still has the #1 spot in Shinji's heart.
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safest order of events to avoid spaghetti

>>4764831

>CS buff to Suzuka to keep up her blinding barrage going so we can finish our conversation without snek interruptions, tell her in mental connection to assist the allies you're bringing however she can, even if it requires Trichiliocosm use
>Accept Vrita's offer, give her a kiss on the cheek and a headpat, then tell Vrita to hold on just long enough to let us bring in support if she's just going to immediately drag us in to a RM
>CS Medea and Chiyome here, tell Chiyome to take Para and heal him and keep herself and the others safe at all costs that aren't her own life, Medea to work with with him once he's conscious to forge a connection to the others and let them through, start work on her own while she's waiting for him to wake up.
>Tell them to stay safe, and that we're going to buy them time
>Vrita releases RM and Shinji, herself and snek are dragged in while allies sort shit out

Enables QM autism, avoids romantic conflicts as Vrita already felt this way about us, hopefully brings Para into the fray, along with Medea/Chiyome
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>>4765084
>Sakurautist
Guess
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>>4764831
>>4764884
Support
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>>4765096
>As things stand, Sakura still has the #1 spot in Shinji's heart.
Unacceptable. We need to push Medea at the top spot.
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>>4765106
She's a very close second!
But he's known Sakura for a decade and has been working to save her for all that time.
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>>4765101
Support except it's just a light kiss on the lips.
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>>4765096
We've got to change that, so many better options.
>>4764831
Yes. We need to mana transfer.
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>>4764831
change >>4764947 to
>CS buff to Suzuka to keep up her blinding barrage going so we can finish our conversation without snek interruptions, tell her in mental connection to assist the allies you're bringing however she can, even if it requires Trichiliocosm use
>Accept Vrita's offer, give her a simple kiss on the lips, then tell Vrita to hold on just long enough to let us bring in support if she's just going to immediately drag us in to a RM
>CS Medea and Chiyome here, tell Chiyome to take Para and heal him and keep herself and the others safe at all costs that aren't her own life, Medea to work with with him once he's conscious to forge a connection to the others and let them through, start work on her own while she's waiting for him to wake up.
>Tell them to stay safe, and that we're going to buy them time
>Vrita releases RM and Shinji, herself and snek are dragged in while allies sort shit out

Same shit as NIgger's but with actual kissing on the lips.
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>>4765074
>t can only be activated out of a genuine love of humanity or love for a single human great enough that Vritra would trust them to ride on her back, and as such, a kiss is required to bring about the activation.

It doesn't specify what type of kiss, and only requires love from Vrita's end. Shinji filled her DARK SOUL WITH LIGHT so that condition was fulfilled, more fulfilled when riding meme happened. We can just daughterzone/sisterzone her which is still a close love, she does embody a form of Truth now and is a Dragon, like actual daughter. So she can be family without making you sneed so much.
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>>4765107
Just summon her and then immediately cuck her, that should work.

I hope you fuckers get castrated by Sakura+Medea after this, you deserve it.
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>>4765101
Do we really need to CS buff Suzuka for that? Pretty sure we have enough time to CS summon Medea and Chiyome and kiss Vritra
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>>4765101
I honestly think it would be enough to phone allies to dig down to our location and not use CS if we're going to be stalling Orochi with an RM anyway. Enkidu, Gilgamesh and all the powerhouses can 100% dig down good enough and break in or Suzuka can connect up to Para's Sword with her big brain and just instantly make it OP by serving as a CPU.

I'd rather not use up CS at this point if we don't need it.
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>>4765112
make sure you link to the qm post so its counted

>>4765116
you removed the headpat baka

>>4765121
It's just to ensure the rest of the conversation goes through as planned, as Orochi interrupted us mid plan last update with flailing unga bunga
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>>4765096
Well yeah ofc, that makes sense, Sakura is our girlfriend and we knew her for 10 years, we've known Medea for like a week
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>>4765118
>We can just daughterzone/sisterzone her.
No.
Even if we still manage to do that somehow, it's time for non-blood related Incest too.
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>>4765122
we have like 9?

what do you intend to use them for anyway?

We get 3 back right away if we contract Para
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Sakurautist, if it makes you feel better, I'll write a Sakura Interlude of your choice.
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>>4765118
>We can just daughterzone/sisterzone her
Anon, Sakura exists
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>>4765126
>you removed the headpat baka
fuck

QM, take my vote as having the headpat part.
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>>4765135
you weren't supposed to point this out bro

What's a little affection between siblings?
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>>4765130
You know, it's pretty funny how you just keep storing up Command Spells like this.
Shame nobody thought to just harvest Kirei's corpse at the time.
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>>4765143
he was busy being atomised while we were unlocking the sekkrit wormpa boss route
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>>4765143
Did Rin destroy his body? She was very fucking angry
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>>4765082
>>4765084
It being the easiest way to power up is precisely why I'm so salty. The QM is heavily pushing the option that will supposedly break the hearts of the other girls who love us. Vritra will be hyped as hell, and I get it that you guys don't care about Sakura, but what about Medea? What about Satsuki? How will they feel when they learn we shared a Kiss of True Love with a near stranger?

>>4765090
I was LITERALLY the guy who came up with the plan to save Illya in time. I care for Sakura the most, but that does not mean I don't care about the other girls. Sometimes I feel I'm the only one who does when everyone is so quick to just add the latest girl we meet to our collection with no thought on the consequences.

>>4765132
I refuse. It will not make me feel better. We are betraying Sakura, Medea and every other care we supposedly care about because you added that in the Noble Phantasm. I care about the emotional well-being of our girls and this makes me feel that haremfaggotry was the right approach all along, and the Shinjibowl will resolve itself with all the girls happy to share the big Makiri dick.
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>>4765148
But what if it doesn't actually need a kiss and she just wants a kiss?
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>>4765148
I care about all of then.
its just a kiss, if it leads to anything else its not something we can be sure for now.
>>4765149
Would still vote for a kiss.
And slap her butt for lying.
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>>4765149
Who cares? its a free kiss.
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>>4765143
We need to get our GIF tats somehow for our eldritch delinquent image.

>>4765149
It would be super based and I'd vote for it extra hard.
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>>4765148
>this makes me feel that haremfaggotry was the right approach all along, and the Shinjibowl will resolve itself with all the girls happy to share the big Makiri dick.
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>>4765149
So Vritra is lying? The charsheet is lying? That's what you're going with? Really?
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>>4765143
What is funny is Shinji having 4 servants when he can only support 3. I hope it actually somewhat hinders him when he gets out.

Checked the archives, salty ASOIAF fags are at it again.
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>>4765149
Even better.
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>>4765149
I would vote for the kiss just for the big brain moves she pulled
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>>4765157
Dude, let it go for fucksake
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>>4765159
If we have so many CS and we need to, then we can just use 3 to Incarnate a Servant instantly, since I think using up 3 can do that.
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>>4765159
Sash of the wargod juice is a helluva drug
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>>4765157
I think he's just joking.
I hope.
We've built Shinji to be a hopelessly autistic womanizer.
Still, I don't want the kiss.
>>4764831
>"Let me see if I can contact the rest of my allies first."
>"Take me over to Paracelcus first. He could be helpful."
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It's just a kiss dude. I think especially Sakura will understand a bit after we confessed to her and her insane power up. We're doing this to save like all timelines and shit.
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>>4765165
Actually this is a good point, if we don't use them up we can actually just use them to Incarnate some of our allies. Good reason to hold on to them, since we may not have time to let Casters figure out if we need to do it fast for some reason.
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>>4765172
Every time someone contracts with Shinji he gets 3 more, we can just meme the whole system with free incarnations.

It only worked that way in Prototype, it never showed up as a possibility again so we aren't 100% sure it'll work here
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>>4765171
We are sharing a kiss of true love with a girl we recruited in the split second since we vanished, just a few minutes after we told her we loved her. Sakura will see it as a betrayal. Medea will see it as a betrayal. Even if we do patch things over, it still is a betrayal just to get more power we don't actually need.
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>>4765149
Thank you, Grandpa.
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>>4765165
Sounds like a good plan
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>>4765157
You live up to your name at least.
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>>4765148
>What about Satsuki?
Don't drag my wife into this.
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>>4765174
We already have Proto Ayaka here, so who knows. If nothing else, they are useful for boosting your own capabilities really well with no seeming compatibility issues or anything.

Maybe they can just super-battery for us doing some Truth shit to Incarnate someone, since they are very pure and concentrated.
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>>4765175
It's supposedly one sided. You have such little faith in your wife.
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>>4765175
QM already said it's one-sided love you sperge.
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>>4765175
I feel you are overreaching too much about what you think.
The kiss has a perfect good explanation, if we going to get romantic or not with her that happens after.
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>>4765175
>In addition to all this, there is a special clause for the activation of this Noble Phantasm, it can only be activated out of a genuine love of humanity or love for a single human great enough that Vritra would trust them to ride on her back, and as such, a kiss is required to bring about the activation. The kissed party however is temporarily capable of borrowing Vritra's power, becoming as naturally physically powerful Vritra herself is while she is in her human form. Personal Skills and Noble Phantasms are not shared, however.

It's not really true love, more high enough affection points to be ridden. We were already at that point in the chambers, probably immediately after giving her the concept even.

It also specifies nothing abut reciprocation, it's purely one sided on Vrita's part.

Idk if this helps at all, but it's not advertised as true love or anything. Just high bond level/trust on Vrita's side and tolerating the action on Shinji's side
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Also there are like 5 different forms of love. Highest being agape and what not.
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>>4765149
That's really sweet of her, but
-if we believe her, it wouldn't work unless it was a love at first sight.
-if we see through her, would we want to trample over girls we already care for just for the free kiss? ...actually, nevermind.
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QM not gonna lie. This entire situation is really fucking stupid.
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>>4765185
I think he is a little blinded by rage or something.
its weird, shit like this on the nasuverse is somewhat common.
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>>4765194
someone had to take Kirei's place, WhatIs stepped up
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>>4765157
SHUT THE FUCK UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP
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>>4765194
You're really fucking stupid.
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>>4765174
3 more + the used ones refresh so far.

>>4765157
The implication it has to be a romantic kiss between a man and a woman is an obvious bait for coomers and a total bullshit, it doesn't make sense and doesn't fit with the skills name and her personality.
What does make sense is Vritra giving kiss to someone because of her love for humanity/ that particular human. Shinji kissing back is not required, it's a bonus for Vritra because of her selfish desires.

Shinji doesn't need to kiss Vritra but horny anons will do it anyway.
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>>4765194
Better than JK noble phantasm.
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>>4765185
>genuine love of humanity or love for a single human great enough
Yeah, not buying. Sorry.

Anyway, I guess I'm firmly in the minority here. One last thing and I'm dropping this: To all the haremfags I've been arguing against all this time: You were right. I was wrong. I shouldn't have worried about the consequences of adding every girl we meet to the harem. It'll all work out in the end. I'm sorry to have doubted you.
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>>4764831
>Yes
Hey autist fuck off even batman is more tolerable than you at this point.

Also thank you based qm for listening to my request of having suzuka call us darling.
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>>4765206
Based. Harem chads unite!
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>>4765198

1 post id

>>4765201
Can't remember if they refresh, but if they do why is anyone at all concerned about using them? Word of God already said it's not an issue to use them to stem paranoia
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>>4765208
Based
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Even now, Zouken makes Sakura's life worse.
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>>4765205
Oh my god, are you really that weak that something not going your way is making you quit?
Bloody hell, you are quitting before anything even happened.
Stop being a faggot and man up, not every vote is going to go as you want.
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>>4765216
It is third time he is quitting.
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>>4765216
I'm not quitting the quest anon. And it's not about one vote not going my way. I just realize my approach on our relationships was wrong, so I'll stop arguing about that particular thing.
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>>4765219
He's hoping he sticks it this time.
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>>4765213
Iirc early in the quest we did use some of them and after contracting a new servant they refreshed. Anons just stopped using them.
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>>4765219
''this'' could easily have been the argument and not the quest btw

>>4765223
CS absolutely everything for efficiency's sake then
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>>4765205
Maybe you should drop that name?
No matter how much you shill that one thing you did, I associate you with whining and seething more than anything else.
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>>4765221
We dont know yet, you just are reaching conclusions before we ever get close of it.
Stop saying that the harem route wont have problems, there probably will be and we shall make it work.
Now stop with the salt, christ.
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>>4765230
found it
>Three more of those shapeless masses of red ink that are your command spells appear on the back of your hand, now there are nine in total. Oddly enough, the command spell that you used when you ordered Betty to awaken seems to have vanished in it's entirety without even leaving a mark on your skin. You're also pretty certain that command spells aren't actually meant to duplicate themselves whenever a new Servant is contracted to you. Immediately after this, you can feel a drain on your magical energy begin. A greater drain than both Caster and Betty put together is being drawn from you and towards Shuten. You knew that you were going to need to provide her with a lot of magical energy, but you couldn't have predicted that she was going to take this much! You're just thankful that you've got such a high capacity for magical energy, otherwise the magical energy being drawn from you would definitely have a greater effect on you than it actually is. Even with your great potential, you feel that simply having been contracted to Shuten is taking at least a third of your remaining magical energy, after taking Caster and Betty into account. Almost half of your magical energy is now being diverted to your Servants alone, and your own use in battle is somewhat diminished as a result. You can see why exactly Shuten was consuming the inhabitants of the city. It's still an absolutely reprehensible act, but this demand for magical energy isn't the sort of thing that any normal magus would've been able to cope with. Ibaraki is probably in the same boat, now that you think about it. Oni aren't exactly the most power efficient beings in the world.
Part 12, http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/4504360/
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>>4765149
This was a joke, sorry if it wasn't clear.

Let me make this absolutely clear.
The kiss doesn't even have to be reciprocated. You're not even the one who has to kiss her.
This is more an expression of love Vritra feels for you/humanity than it is a fairytale style kiss of True Love.

I'm sorry if it came off that way but it wasn't my intention.
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I miss illya.
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>>4765230
Wouldn't it be more efficient to make Caster Team create a magical energy repository like a Grail with nearly all the parts stripped out and then using CS to make them make it super good or we can just use CS to make a Servant pull a lot of energy out of the leyline into the proto-Grail.

Hippolyta in SF pulls out energy from the leyline after being commanded and basically permanently gets upgraded stats iirc, but the locals don't get fainting spells or sickness or anything like Medea's draining thing.

If you try to autism the CS anyway.
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>>4765165

>>4765235
Here fren, to put your mind at ease on using CS for safety. They're infinite.
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>>4765236
You really dont need to say sorry for everything.
People need to be less salty about shit like that, being jokes or not.
I prefer QMs that joke like that to be honest, but you do you.
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>>4765205
You do realize that we'd have to add her anyway. Shinji is the only one that can smother her destructive empulses. Just like Shuten we'd have to spend a lot of time making sure they don't go off the tracks.

Oh there are going to be consequences for this. Harem end was likely possible if we'd done this carefully but kissing Sakura nuked that. If we had sit down hashed this out and have the other girls communicate with eachother there was a possibility of Polyamoury to get us through.
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>>4765239
I miss enhance that nigga literally showed up for one fight then fucked off.
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>>4765242
It's definitely an option pre Manaka, before the ritual collapses we should abuse them and maybe even research into their mechanics to pick up what wormpa left behind. Medea understands a form of teleportation and Para had his brain jacked into ELIXIR, they could come up with incredible things together and long, complex rituals are instantly cast using his sword.
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>>4765245
I just want to write a fun story.
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>>4765242
A mana tank? sure?
Not sure how that shit works.
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>>4765243
Well, I'd guess they are finite in that each contract with a given Servant only refreshes them once?

That would be my guess and I'm not sure all Servants would be fine being passed around but otherwise indeed should abuse these somehow.
>>4765251
I want to wait until we use most of them up until we "use up" the act of contracting Para that will refresh us, basically, since I don't think they are truly infinite in that you can contract, use them up, break contract, re-contract, refresh etc.
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>>4765253
CS fuelled Philosopher's stone/mini ELIXIR?

ELXIR was literally just the potential of Sword of Paracelsus taken to it's utmost limits via worms
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>>4765252
I know dude, i also just want to have fun adventures, not taking shit too seriously.
Just keep writing and having fun.
But really, i'm really glad you decided to do this quest, it is quite fun.
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>>4765253
Grail is basically a giant mana tank being funnelled into Juzteaze's Magic Circuit based core.

Casters can also do crazy shit with all that magical energy, as thats how it works by itself in non-Juzteaze Grails. It's just a huge magical energy thing a magus could basically do anything he can imagine with.

>>4765256
Caster Team+Suzuka+Para+CS could make something cool with it.
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This thread so far seems to be terrifying foreshadowing for the waifuwars to come.

>>4764831
>Yes
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>>4765259
Suzuka would be basically a plug-in emergency CPU if we needed to do something obscene that it normally can't.
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>>4765236
No, after all the teasing about eating him, her trying to get Shinji to kiss her is in character. Anons want to do that anyways though, so they don't care.
>>4765230
QM did recently wonder about why we aren't more suspicious of our anomalous CS.
I doubt we can exploit them by breaking contract and forming it again to get infinity CS. We should try to use some of them and see if they refresh over night or something though.
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>>4765252
Even if I am currently salty, I want you to know I do find the story to be fun, overall. I wouldn't have been nearly as invested otherwise.
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What's currently winning?
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>>4765267
Kiss
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>>4765259
>>4765262
Also, maybe add BB into the computer team if she remembers how the Moon Cell shit works. Moon Cell is like a Mega-ELIXIR...Megalixir and she could maybe have something to add.
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>>4765264
>apply the concept of Ouroboros to our command spells
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>>4765242
We also have option of asking Alaya to provide for us with her powers.
>>4765252
You are doing good job at it. Don`t let waifuwars discourage you.
I am sure that a lot of other anons have their preferences that is likely not going to make it or will never play any major role in the story. Or at least I can say that for myself. So, I just enjoy the ride anyway.
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>>4765272
Would that make a self-replicating Curse as Command Seals are cursecraft and give us sick ass tattoos or would it make it a Demon due to making it "alive" with Truth? What do you think?
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>>4765252
And you are doing that successfully. With a quest and player base this large, there will always end up being drama here and there, but in my opinion, and I think I speak for the vast majority of players here, you have been doing an amazing job balancing fun and story.
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>>4765272
Hell no, giving Shinji Perpetuum Mobile of the first kind will ruin all the fun. I really appreciate QM didn't just let us loot the ELIXIR and broke it with our RM, that would be really bad.
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>>4765275
Command Spell-kun tulpa to add a snakelike shota to the snake harem
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>>4765236
I trust you OP, but I'd still feel bad about taking advantage of the cute dragon or leading her on, and there's really no time right now to explain our situation to her.
Kissing her for a powerup seems like a cruel thing to do not just to her but to the ones not present as well.

Most I can do is go with
>"Whatever it takes."
and expect a torturous fallout.
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>>4765252
I'm genuinely enjoying myself, just some anons taking things too personal
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After this we really should funnel most of our Casters, BB and Suzaku into an R&D section of our company. Combine magic with tech or advance human understanding decades would be the goal.

Have ninja girl create a ninja village for the Makiri clan. Then give Zoukens former Caster to Luvia because Rin isn't Ishtar Rin so she can fuck off.
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>>4765279
We'll make Goetia 2.0 Snake ver. but not retarded and continue being Merlin+Solomon but modern and, maybe if we're lucky, not as retarded.
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Snakes really are a theme here, huh.
Even your Martial Arts are Snake Style.

So saying yes to the kiss is winning then?
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>>4765285
Yes
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>>4765285
Yes
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>>4765285
Yes.
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>>4765282
Spinzaku cameo?

>>4765285
It's kind of kino, even wormpa likes snakes.

Japanese for snek is "hebi" which just means long, take from that what you will.

>>4765285
It's kind of a yes + a myriad other things but no real consistency
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>>4765280
We will likely have to recipocate her just like Shuten just to avoid her doing something stupid later.

Right now we are stuck with:
Arc
Satsuki
Sakura
Madea
Madusa
Shuten
Vajari

Don't think there are any other emotionally dependent/Yandere girls.
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>>4765285
Yes
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>>4765252
And you sure did you fucking sadist. Hope you're ready for the post-war waifu wars, it's going to be hell.
You did make us invested enough to get mad over it, so cheers to that.
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>>4765285
Yeah.
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>>4765282
>Rin isn't Ishtar Rin so she can fuck off.
Rude.
It's hilarious to think that Rin when she becomes a few years older goes full deredere and loses all the tsun.
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>>4765285
dragon snakes
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>>4765284
Solomon was too autistic to have a proper dialogue with Goetia. They didn't get on at all. Just need to grind bond with snektulpa CS-kun so he doesn't go full retard if left alone
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>>4765296
thats normal, being a original tsundere, rin is very soft even on her most tsun.
With time the already soft tsun just becomes more dere.
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>>4765300
Dragon steak!
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>>4765285
Give Kiyohime too.
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>>4765296
That's why I won't stop until she's at 99/100 with us I will complete this challenge
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>>4765309
Kiyo and Quetz are the only two missing snakegirls left in Fate off the top of my head.

Quetz is just beaner Vrita at this point though
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>>4765290
>Spinzaku cameo?
JIBUN WO
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>>4765285
Guess we truly are The Snake of Akasha
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All of this autism has made me really apreciate quests that have a love interest decided from the beggining.
I don't blame the qm for this, I blame everyone here that jumps at every new girl with no though for consequences.
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>>4765309
And of course Liz, who is more dragon>>4765313

>>4765313
Have him piggyback ride Lancelot as a secret contestant in the Carnival Olympics or Nerofest
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>>4765315
No one will know we stole Roa's epithet as he doesn't real anymore
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>>4764831
>Yes
>>4764851
>>4764863
>>4764871
>>4764877
>>4764880
>>4764881
>>4764894
>>4764904
>>4764907
>>4765085
>>4765115
>>4765206
>>4765260

>Kiss on cheek + others
>>4765101

>Kiss on lips + others
>>4765116

>Yes, CS Medea, reinforcements
>>4765045


>No, tamamophone, Para
>>4764884
>>4764959
>>4765072
>>4765104

>Tamamophone, Para
>>4765170

>No, tamamophone
>>4764922

I might have missed someone, but overwhelming support for a simple yes.
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>>4765315
NOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO BE THE PARADOX REINCARNATOR AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Speaking of the Roa meme, Ciel might have good input for magical fuckery between the Casters + Suzuka brains trust with Roa's memories of magecraft
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>>4765315
Alayan Ouroboros.
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We obviously don't want to be really in melee range of Zorochi too much, but does Ares Sash stack with having Vritra's stats?
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>>4765334
It should, I'd imagine Vrita's override our scuffed base stats, then Goddess of War applies its modifiers, then stack reinforcement to go even further beyond
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Zouken pulled some pretty big brain moves by still figuring out how to torture Sakura. By summoning qt servants and chucking them at Shinji, he would be too much of a manwhore to not take advantage of this situation, thus breaking Sakura's heart and cucking her, our grandfather is too evil and smart for us
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>>4765342
>"You were simply no match for my 3000 IQ, Shinji."
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>>4765339
We will be also tapping directly into Counter-Force. Remember Beast of Alaya?
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>>4765346

Are we going to cuck Ryouma's snekwife out of the CF with this?

>Beloved of Alaya: B (EX)
An exceptionally powerful variant of Charisma, boosted beyond the logical maximum of the skill due to leaving an impression on the true form of Alaya itself. Kept subconsciously sealed to be roughly equal to Charisma equal to B usually. If this skill were to be activated to it's fullest, then any being born of humanity would be unable to resist the commands of the skill's owner, however, the actual method to unseal this skill is unknown.

Talk no jutsu within the RM? Will this activate it?

We'll see I guess
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>>4765349
Ryouma showing up would be great. He is one of the more fun jannies alongside Okita Alter.
And I want Oryou to encourage our girls to be more proactive and act as a support character for them. She has better track record than most of them. And some of them need all the help they can get.
With Shirou too busy with Saber, people never voteing to call Nyarly, EMIYA and Alcides preoccupied with being angry and the best Shiki can do is to suggest raping them. We are low on manpower.
Although, maybe Gil will help us out if we end us as his friend.
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>>4765159
Apologies, they're a rowdy bunch.
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>>4765323
His flipped grin in this makes him look like some kind of vampire fishman.
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>>4765159
>>4765373
What'd they do
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>>4765372
Gil will suggest raping them too
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>>4765387
He did really big brain set up during Carnival.
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>>4765372
Gil is a rapist. Shirou is our only hope but he's busy fucking his fiancée
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>>4765372
Gil would suggest advanced rape like Prima Nocta
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>>4765372
>>4765387
>>4765413
>>4765434

This is another reason to find or summon bedivere. We bro it up with master pimpslapper and we hook him up with Obethia
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>>4765441
We could also summom Jeanne since she would literally chase away prostitutes away from her soldiers but yk...
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Update?
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>>4765452
Gimme like 4 minutes.
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>>4765473
Thanks Bae. Really excited
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"Then... If there's no other choice, then... do it. But... I'd really have liked to get to know you a bit better first." Honestly, you're starting to get frustrated with just how easily women around you seem to have started falling for you as of recent. It would be nice if there was at least some difficulty in getting them to think favorably, you know? As things are, you're just managing to dig a deeper hole for yourself when you end up actually having to figure out how you're going to resolve this mess. You've been ignoring it, but the problem seems to only have gotten worse because of it... and now that you confessed your love to Sakura, she's not going to take no for an answer when it comes to pursuing a romantic relationship with you either...

Vritra, unaware of your mental debate over the fact that you seem to have some sort of curse to cause women to fall for you. But not just any women, it really does feel like you've only managed to make powerful or dangerous women to fall for you. "Well, there's always time to get to know each other, isn't there? Eternity, actually." Wait a second? Eternity? Vritra might live forever, but you're pretty sure that you're still going to grow old... right? You actually don't know if that's true or not. It might be the case that your body's natural ability to regenerate has granted you a form of immortality, perhaps? You don't know, you still seem to be growing taller as you age. It might be an idea to research your having potentially accidentally become biologically immortal with Touko at some point in the future. "A-anyway." She looks away awkwardly, the domineering woman apparently embarrassed, seems despite all her big talk, when it actually comes to romantic affairs, it looks like this dragon woman is a complete novice.

Vritra walks close to you, looks at your face for a few seconds. "What are you waiting for, Vritra? If you're going to kiss me, then just... do it? OK? There's no point in just leaving us both in suspense considering we have about 12 seconds before Orochi gets his sight back." You remind the Dragon Woman that it's pretty vital that she hurries up with her kiss and activates her Noble Phantasm, while it probably won't be good enough to finish off Orochi all by itself, it should both injure and slow him down for enough time for the rest of your allies to be able to show up to help. Now that ELIXIR has been destroyed, it goes without saying that the time dilation effect should also have ended. In fact, you may very well be on a time limit here too,

"F-fine." Vritra kneels down, goes to kiss you on the lips, but then unexpectedly changes her target and kisses you on the cheek instead. You're left shocked in place for a minute, you had assumed entirely that Vritra would've gone all in on the kiss, and basically forced a french kiss or something, but... a kiss on the cheek? What are you? A maiden princess that has just been rescued by a prince?
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"...Really?" You're a little shocked by Vritra's decision not to immediately go for a kiss on the lips, even though she had full permission to do so. The gluttonous dragon showing a remarkable level of restraint.

"...I don't want my first proper kiss with you to be one I stole out of necessity, I'd never be satisfied if my first proper kiss with you was stained with the fact that it had some greater purpose to it." The tall woman blushes again as she looks away from you, and you actually respect her a little more for not just trying to steal a full kiss from you like that. Is it a matter of pride driving her? That she won't steal a kiss like that? "Now, with that done, I think I should show you just... what I can do with that kiss... Asha Vahishta!"

Vritra yells out the name of her Noble Phantasm just in time for Orochi to finally recover his eyesight, and the moment she does, a great darkness spreads out from beneath Vritra's feet, like a spillage of ink on the floor, the darkness rapidly stains all that it touches, but leaves Suzuka behind when it passes over her, from where you're standing, it looks like the fox eared woman is erased and consumed by the darkness, but in truth it's likely that she can't even see the ever expanding darkness as it grows to expand around Vritra, Orochi and yourself.

When the darkness has completely cut the three of you off from the rest of the world, the darkness shifts in color to blinding bright white, and Vritra disappears entirely. You're alone facing off against Orochi, and you can very much feel a great deal of strength surging through your body, further bolstered by the Sash of Ares. This is... incredible! You look at Orochi and smirk, the giant dragon's heads all look downwards at you.

"SHINJI! DO YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN DEFEAT ME WITH THIS?!" The eight heads roar in unison, the voice inhuman and furious. "DID YOU REALLY THINK YOU COULD SEAL ME WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS?!" Ah, looks like the sealing aspect of the Noble Phantasm hasn't managed to seal the powers of a Beast, though that's something you sort of expected. It was never going to be that easy, was it? Still, you'd like to know where the hell Vritra is! Because for as strong as you feel right now, you're not entirely confident in your ability to survive eight Anti-Country attacks being directed at you at the same time.
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You brace yourself to attempt to avoid the attacks, but Orochi has finally stopped growing now, and you underestimate just how large the beast truly is. Even a single one of the heads is like a mountain itself! You can't dodge something like that! Then... maybe a barrier of truth? You have time to create one this time, but could it really hold up against an Anti-Country attack? You think it might be able to, but before you can find out for yourself, a great white mass of scale and muscle smashes into the black scales of Yamata-no-Orochi, pushing the gigantic dragon backwards. You get a better look at the tremendously large dragon that has shown up to assist you, and you quickly realize that this is Vritra's current form. The dragon brings its head to the ground to look at you with one of its eyes, Vritra in her current state is absolutely enormous. The nature of her Noble Phantasm meaning that her size as a dragon is effectively something that she herself can choose within this world of hers. She's still smaller than Yamata-no-Orochi is in her current form, but she herself is like a mountain herself, one of her eyes alone is nearly the size of Alítheia. Seems like she's waiting for your decision on how to attack Orochi.

>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to damage him as much as possible.
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
>Fight on foot against Orochi and allow Vritra to do her own thing.
>Ride Vritra and drop off of her to land on Orochi. You can apply a concept to him like that!
>Write-in...
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Vritra is based.

We probably don't want to be touching Orochi , so we should stall fo time using tactics, right?
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>>4765492
last update?
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>>4765498
Maybe.
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based Vritra, now i like her

>>4765492
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
Orochi ain't dying from this fight, we gotta stall for as long as possible
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>>4765492
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
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Do we CF support running into us now? Or did it get cucked because Zorochi has TA juice still?

Anyway, our RM probably did make us immortal if shit like Lair of the Beast King exist as RMs.
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We should call our allies i guess?
Does the fluffy tail phone work inside a reality marble?
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>>4765510
There's some additional back-up, but not quite as much as there might otherwise have been.
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>>4765493
Yes, touching the snake of cursefuckery without cursecondoms is still a bad idea. And we don't really have much of a choice on how to proceed now that we're alone in a reality marble with Vritra and grandpa. Stalling seems the best option here.
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>>4765492
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
And +1 to if anyone finds a good way to call our allies during the stall.
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>>4765492
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.

Stall since I don't know how we could get fancy. Except maybe trying to do do something like a biiiig Lance of Truth to joust from Vritra.
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>>4765492
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
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>>4765492
Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible while humming ride of the valkyries
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>>4765544
Heh dub dubs
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>>4765492
>>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
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Done for tonight?
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>>4765582
Maybe one more.
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>>4765585
Ok.

>>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.

Is unanimous.
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>>4765492
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
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>>4764945
Sorry about splitting the vote, I was too busy seething and cursing QM, found this out after re-reading the thread. I'll try to not do that next time.

>>4765492
>>4765531
+1 this.
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>>4765492
>Ride Vritra and guide her against Orochi, try to stall for as much time as possible.
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You make your decision quite rapidly. Vritra might basically be the size of a mountain right now, but your Riding Skill has no size limit. Especially thanks to Alítheia's blessing, which seems to have given you the uncanny ability to somewhat telepathically communicate with dragons you are riding, though it's more a simple method to allow you to give them orders and requests. It's not something so complete as an actual system of communication, unfortunately. It's a one way system that is normally only meant for the use of controlling lesser dragons, and on Dragons like Vritra or Alítheia, it's more a system of mental suggestion. While you can ride Vritra to a degree where she can't throw you off, if she didn't want to follow your orders, she simply wouldn't.

With that in mind, you leap hundreds of meters into the air thanks to the immense empowerment your body has currently undergone and stand on the top of Vritra's head. Honestly, she's so huge right now that she probably can't even feel you. Does this even count as riding her? Honestly. Well, there seems to have been an established mental link between the two of you, so it seems that at least something has happened here.

Orochi doesn't take long to recover to the hit he just received from Vritra, sending three of his eight heads to gouge at her flesh, but Vritra deftly takes a step backwards to avoid the attacks, not one of them manages to even scratch the shining white scales of the huge Dragon of Eternity. It seems that despite Orochi having the strength, size and even speed advantage in this battle, not to mention the fact that with his eight long necked heads he can attack eight times to every one of Vritra's attacks, he isn't actually doing all that well against Vritra! The reason however is quite clear, if this were the actual true Yamata-no-Orochi, the battle would be far more one-sided, but this is Zolgen Makiri controlling the body of Yamata-no-Orochi. Whereas Orochi's instincts would help him in his battles, for Zolgen, he is having to effectively figure out the best way to control the body of the beast all by himself.
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So, compared to Vritra, who has all the experience in her current form that she could ever need, it's really no doubt that when it comes to fighting skill in their current forms, Vritra is very much the dominant fighter in this battle. Though she did choose not to make herself too big, it seems. Meaning there's either an upper limit to how large she can grow, or she simply didn't want to give Orochi the opportunity to strike at a bigger slower target. You continue giving Vritra suggestions for how to act while you stand on top of her head with your arms crossed, kind of disappointed that you can't do more to help for the sake of this battle. But then again, what exactly can you do here? You're basically just observing two mountains vie for dominance in a world of pure white. It's clear from Vritra's inability to really even damage Orochi though, that this isn't a battle that can be won even here. In fact, the only reason for Vritra to continue fighting Zolgen here is so that he doesn't realize that if he were to simply target the world confining him, he could tear his way out of Vritra's Noble Phantasm. So the distraction is very much necessary. Unfortunately, due to the blocking nature of Vritra's Noble Phantasm though. You aren't capable of communicating to any of your allies, all communication has been cut off.

Orochi is clearly getting frustrated by being continually out maneuvered by his flying opponent, and Vritra, seeing a chance to strike Orochi once again, begins to speed downwards, intending to try to bite one of his heads off through severing the flesh of the neck, even if Orochi's body is immensely durable, that much should be capable of at least continuing to distract him, right?

It's at that moment, however, that all eight of Orochi's heads suddenly crane upwards to face Vritra, and each of them have their mouths open, a great glowing white heat emanating from each and every one of them, and before Vritra can successfully complete her attack, eight white hot pillars of flame are being sent racing towards you and the dragon you are riding. Each of the pillars is like a tremendous volcanic eruption, this is the sort of attack that would spell death for anything that it hit.

>Command Vritra to dodge it.
>Command Vritra to counter it with her own breath weapon.
>Try to make a truth barrier around Vritra large enough to block the attacks.
>Shield only yourself, trust in Vritra's Eternal Nature.
>Write-in...
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>>4765696
Try to make a truth barrier around Vritra large enough to block the attacks

We're supercharged as well right?
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>>4765696
>Try to make a truth barrier around Vritra large enough to block the attacks.
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>>4765232
Based
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>>4765696
>>Try to make a truth barrier around Vritra large enough to block the attacks.
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>>4765728
>1 post ID
>based

Unbased
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>>4765696
>>Try to make a truth barrier around Vritra large enough to block the attacks.
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Why not have Vrita quickly revert to smol form and shield you both? Trying to make a mountain sized dome is going to either kill us or be weak af. concentrate all that power into a smaller barrier and maybe even go as far as to fall into Orochi's mouth, let him swallow, then make a second bubble around ourselves and have Vrita get YUGE again, making him explode from the inside out, potentially revealing Kusanagi and more likely forcing him to spend a lot of time regenerating
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>>4765764
Unbased
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Currently Shinji is operating with Vrita's stats due to her RM, so this is the baseline:

Parameters:
Strength: A
Endurance: A
Agility: A
Magical Energy: EX
Luck: EX

>Wearing it greatly increases the user's Divinity, Strength, Endurance, Agility, and Mana parameters. Its strength cannot exceed a certain point due to Mystery in modern society being weak.

Based on the difference between Hippolyta and Alcides' stats, and her punching Alcides through a mountain under the effects of Goddess of War it's going to be at least a full rank of boost above the aforementioned stats, and that's in Snowfield where Mystery is weak.

We're in INS so the modern scuffing of it's buffs should be gone or reduced, so potentially more than a full rank up.

So right now Shinji is operating with EX Mana with another full rank buff from Goddess of War, which might even be two rank ups as he absorbs the Divinity buff as just raw Mana instead.

So actually contrary to what I said earlier, he basically has a near unlimited amount of Mana at this point, it's not even quantifiable it's just effectively whatever the maximum output of his circuits can release.

Why not a Truth Beam in conjunction with Vrita's breath attack?

It's two EX Mana beams with Goddess of War buffing one even further vs Orochi's vanilla EX, spread across 8 heads.

He also has by word of the update, poor control of his form so he might not be able to actualise the full output of Orochi as Zouken has never been one for unga bunga beamu

And conservatively Shinji is currently operating with this kind of statsheet under Goddess of War, but seeing as how parameters are fucky with a + denoting double I'm not sure how to treat it. TL Anon wanna correct this if 'm wrong?

Parameters:
Strength: A+
Endurance: A+
Agility: A+
Magical Energy: EXtra thicc dragon milkers
Luck: EX

But regardless, Shinji is faster than Orochi, potentially matches his Mana output with the Sash. The only problem with dodging him is his sheer size, but Shinji should always get the initiative, especially when Zolgen is having trouble co-ordinating his 8 mountain sized heads.
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>>4764831
kek

>>4764900
Understandable
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>>4765878
The only problem I see with this is scale.
Orochi is thousands of times bigger than us, so unless we can create a beam of immense size we won't be able to stop Orochi's beams.
Instead, we should have Vrita counter his beam while we attack Orochi's heads directly with our deletion ray.
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>>4765915
Why not a wall in front of us? and just hydraulic press him into the ground while also shielding against the beam? Have Vrita beam as propulsion? He's standing in a void of nothing too so it's not like he's pushing against the floor or anything. Just splat a giant chunk of him and it'll cost less to maintain than a fullsize bubble which might not be able to be sustained due to the output cap we have based on circuit count.

Or we could do the have Vrita go smol, Truth Bubble around us both so it's super fucking strong, let him eat us inside the bubble then explode him internally by just continuing to expand the bubble outwards?
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Alternatively, Shinji's Reinforcement lets him Kaioken x10. If we go by parameter rules, A Rank is a value of 50, A+ is 100, A++ 150 and A +++ 200 - which means Orochi sits at 200.

Even if Shinji is only starting at A, or 50 if he reinforces himself without even considering the Sash he reaches over 2x Orochi's strength for a moment, so we could hypothetically punch out a head being launched at us.

WhatIs when you're alive again do you want to confirm you're going off these rules or if Shinji's reinforcement isn't actually just Kaioken x10?

https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Parameter_Rules
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Have we ever actually seen how big a buff the sash actually gives us? I figure with our Appraisal of Treasure and it being freely given to us we must have but I can't find mention of it on the status sheets.
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>>4765936
Problem is it's never outright specified in F/SF as of yet either, but it lets B Rank STR A rank AGIL Hippolyta not only blindside Alcides through EOTM True B but launch him DBZ style through a mountain with a single punch.
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>>4765927
We might be able to create a wall of that size, but exerting force on it will be an issue.
We've never been shown to have the ability to move our constructs around through will alone and blocking that arrow proves that truth constructs aren't immovable, so if we try to interpose a flat wall between us and this attack it might come flying back at us.
A also doubt Zolgen will just swallow us like a marble.
>>4765933
Once again, scale becomes an issue; even if we have an immense powerlevel right now we'd only be able to use it with our human sized limbs.
Zolgen is basically the size of a conglomeration of mountains so even if we have similar or greater parameters I don't think we'll be able to cqc this dragon.
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>>4765950
Alcides is also A Agility
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>>4765952
Cast Truth Fist in the style of Sanzang's Five Elements Mountain - Shaka Nyorai Palm?
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>>4765626
Don't sweat it anon. We stood no chance whatsoever.
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It's a real shame Shinji never tried Truth based Item Construction. A Magic Cylinder or Mirror here would be pretty funny, just NO U the beams or store them in a vessel to be released later
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No autist >>4765765
No
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Sorry I meant sakura autist
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>>4765977
I'm not sure Shinji can maintain a mountain sized bubble durable enough to tank an eightfold Orochi beamu. Not due to lack of energy, but due to limited output capacity.

There's a reason it's not a vote yet, it's throwing out ideas to see how retarded everyone thinks they are
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wait what the fuck so apparently Fate and Tsuki being in different worlds was a retcon? Apparently Nasu changed his mind when FGO started releasing and had it so they happened in the same exact timeline
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>>4766001
A million Nasuverse timelines and Tsukihime has to share one with fgo.
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Ok so basically the reason why Narita is almost ignoring lore with Fate Strange Fake and having Dead Apostle Ancestors show up is because the story was created before the retcon even happened and he just ignored whatever Nasu ended up doing after FGO released, so blame FGO if you don't like the fact that Tsuki and Fate are incompatible for whatever reason
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>>4766001
>>4766008
Among the other problems with this, F:GO is the one timeline where Primate Murder is definitely Fou. Nasu was off his meds again.
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>>4766016
Can't say I blame him, really. It's dumb to retcon your universe because you want the murderdog to become a fluffy pet.

I thought the split had been decided earlier though.
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>>4766024
it seems the split happened because of FGO. I mean, Nasu even talked about Tsukihime and FSN as if they happened in the same timeline once upon a time, there's literally no reason for him to say that Tsukihime happens a month before FSN if they weren't in the same timeline for example

https://www.reddit.com/r/typemoon/comments/i15iqm/could_the_types_become_servants/fzxxf2b/
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>>4766024
Split happened early on, but he unsplit it so Nukihime and fgo can be in one big Nasu cinematic universe.
This means plenty of fgo references are going to be shoehorned into the remake.
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>>4766028
>>4766031
I'm getting some mixed messages here.
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>>4766028
He initially split the timeline so he could avoid having to write around Dead Apostles in Fate, so he bullshitted and said DAA tier and above Dead Apostles and True Ancestors can't exist in worlds where Servants are a thing.
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With energy not being the problem right now, why not try to make Truth barrier with reflection quality?
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>>4765696
How far out can we manifest truth barriers? Can we create a truth wall right at the mouths so they get singed by their own attack?
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yk i kinda forget how much of a monster Ciel is and how she's held back by hating Roa, she can get around to 30% Arc if she really pushes herself, stockpiles and uses Roa's magecraft, basically she can get as strong as Gilgamesh. No wonder she can fight servants

>>4766041
Truth is a gas guzzler but our circuits are at max capacity, we have Alcides's magic sash of power and we have Vritra's absurd parameters in her RM which clocks in at EX for magical energy, so its looking pretty good for us
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That sash is going to become part of our Servant kit, isn`t it? Ares is going to seethe so much.
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I will just trust in the spirit of kaiju fight.
>>4765696
>Command Vritra to counter it with her own breath weapon.
Vritra is anti-Beast, anti-Threat to Humanity, has lesser form of Truth (Asha), we seen that Alítheia did with her Truth breath weapon and currently her breath buffed by Asha Vahishta and help of Counter Force.
>holy purging flame that can incinerate anything in existence is at the command of Vritra
She is going to win this clash.
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>>4765696
>>4766106
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Should we also try beaming along? Maybe hit a head shooting rather than contest directly.
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>>4766226
I don`t think we can do mahou shoujo related powers without Amethyst but
>Well, you'll have access to all of the power I have in my humanoid form for yourself while I've taken my dragon form and we'll both constantly be replenished with Magical Energy by the Counter Force itself.
Going by her normal movers in FGO
https://youtu.be/0cxhYDkG1fo
And that we seen so far we should be able to:
1. Use her offensive fire barriers
2. Use her flame and lighting attacks
3. Spam her spears
She was using
>Spear that Penetrates with Truth - Asha Vajra: A+ Rank Anti-Unit Noble Phantasm
>An upgraded version of the original Vajra, a spear that can be thrown at any target and, using the power of Truth, will ensure it both hits and bypasses any armor, dealing a set amount of damage equal to an A+ level attack to an opponent no matter how much magical energy or effort is put into the attack. Even the lightest touch will ensure this spear hits an opponent it is targeted at, should the wielder wish to hit them. While the Vajra is a weapon that breaks upon being thrown, Vritra can create additional Asha Vajra through using her own magical energy.
Quite a lot during first phase so we might be able to get better use of it here ourselves. With unlimited energy here we can just spam our hearts out with it and barrier traps with Truth flames.
Maybe even her human form breath weapon? We should have gotten her Dragonkind skill too. And it has Battle Continuation, Mana Burst (Flame), Monstrous Strength and Natural Demon skills.
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What's winning
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>>4766260
>Try to make a truth barrier around Vritra large enough to block the attacks.
Is in the lead
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We could try
>Command Vritra to counter it with her own breath weapon
>Start raining down maximum possible number of Asha Vajras aiming at heads, preferably eyes
>Use Truth flame, offensive barriers and lightning attacks of opportunity to use them well arrived
>Overcharge all of the attacks with Truth
I assume every Asha Vajras can be made into Broken Phantasm. If EMIYA can do it like he does so she we at least here.
>>4766260
Looks like four barriers versus two breath attacks at the moment.
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>>4766263
Support
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Then... calling in 20

>>4766263
Noble Phantasms and Personal Skills aren't shared.
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I don't know if we get Vritra's NPs and Skills though, so I don't think we can throw Vajras.
Truth flame, trugh lightning, etc is good though.

>>4765696
>>4766263
+1
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>>4766265
Did we also get Vritra's Mana stat for big energy pool? And how good is our environment for sucking in energy using our Blessed Circuits?
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>>4765696
>>4766263
Support
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>>4766263
>If EMIYA can do it like he does so she we at least here
So should we. Brainrot.
>>4766265
I see.
>Use Truth flame, offensive barriers and lightning attacks of opportunity to use them well arrived
Do we have those things? She uses them pretty casually.
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>>4766269
You do currently have her mana stat, yes.
And the environment is very good.
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>>4766273
>Do we have those things? She uses them pretty casually
You can replicate it all with your natural abilities.
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>>4766275
Can we combine our ability to convert our magical energy to Holy with other elements like shooting holy fire or holy lightning or even truth holy fire, or only one or the other?
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>>4766273
Is the "offensive barrier" like the thing we used for Pegasus? We could also try just making a giant Truth sword or Truth lance, since they shouldn't actually have weight.
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>>4766277
You can only apply one attribute like holy or truth to something at once.
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>>4765696
From >>4766106 to making >>4766263 my vote.
Not even sure we know about whatever or not we have access to Asha Vajra in-character. It should be a second delay anyway before we switch to other powers.
>>4766275
As with runes it is sometimes hard to determine what we can do at the moment.
And with her telling us about sharing her human form powers I got the impression she shares everything with all correlated bonuses.
>>4766279
Look at >>4766250 video here. Her extra attack. Explosive cube with flames inside of it.
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If we're using elemental attacks, I'd suggest using purely lightning element if we can. Both because Orochi himself is using fire and because his big enemy is Susanoo, even if he used trickery and a sword to kill him. Every little bit may help.
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>>4766283
I think Truth overwhelm normal elemental tablet.
We could try to Truth ice him since grandpa is a huge snake at the moment though. It worked on Chiyome.
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>>4766283
Cold is the conceptual weakness of snakes, if you want to try an element. It was super effective on Chiyome.
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>>4765696
changing from
>>4766263
To
>Command Vritra to counter it with her own breath weapon
>Use Truth cold/ice, long Truth weapons like elongated lances and swords, offensive barriers and defensive barriers if needed to support Vritra's own efforts by hindering Orochi by attacking his heads/throats and disrupting and immobilizing him.
>Overcharge all magecraft and efforts with Truth as much as possible and draw as much power from CF and area as possible for efforts.

Something like this? I think a huge lightsaber/lightlance could be useful if we want to try disrupting and damaging him a bit, maybe make him angrier and lose track of time more. Cold is here, varied barriers. Running support for Vritra.

Since Truth weapons are just elements, we should...? be able to just make them super big and/or long and if we can't its not big loss.
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>>4766293
My original that I changed from
>>4766266
To
>>4766293
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>>4766293
More coherent than my version so I would support it since now we know about impossibility spear spam and that anti-Beast qualities are not shareable.
But I think vote was called 15 minutes ago as >>4766265 time
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Changing from >>4766263
to>>4766293
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>>4766296
I haven't technically started writing yet, so I might just wait to see if you can come to an agreement.
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>>4765696
From >>4766282 to >>4766293
>>4766299
Thanks.
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>>4765696
Switching from >>4766272 to >>4766293
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>>4765696
>>4766293
+1
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>>4765696
>>4766293
+1
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>>4766293
Support
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You give Vritra a mental command to counter the eight great pillars of flame with her own breath weapon. You don't know just how well she'll be able to manage though, considering it's one jet of flame against eight, but with any luck, the intensity of her own flame within the Reality Marble like world is of superior quality to that of Orochi's own flame.

Vritra does as you command nearly instantly, letting out her own jet of white hot purging flame to clash with Orochi's own stream of death. When the two meet, there's a pulse of energy that nearly forces you backwards despite the immense strength your body currently has, like an almighty shock-wave that alone would level an entire city in moments. A normal human even being nearby when these two titanic beings met would surely be killed simply as a result of the attacks having such a terrible effect on the world around them! Even an average Servant wouldn't be able to survive in conditions like this!

The eight jets of flame meet with Vritra's single jet of flame, and amazingly, the two of them seem to be perfectly matched. The flames clashing against each other are incapable of overwhelming the other, and end up meeting in the middle of the distance between the two great dragons. A battle for supremacy beginning over who has the greater breath weapon. When it comes to stamina however, there's really no point in trying to draw this out. Orochi has an effectively unlimited supply of energy, and Vritra is eternal. The two dragons could keep this up forever and nothing would change.

So that means that you're going to need to get involved to help Vritra. The two dragons are locked in a stalemate now, neither of them can break away from the attack now without leaving themselves wide open to the breath of their enemy, and it appears that neither of the two wish to actually allow themselves to be hit by the breath attack of their enemy. You understand quite well that if Vritra was to simply attempt to use her eternal constitution to take the attack, then while she might not be killed, the flames would almost certainly destroy you. Even with as much magical energy around you as there currently is, you wouldn't be able to keep up a barrier of Truth longer than Orochi could keep breathing that flame of his for. Not to mention that even if you created an impassable barrier, you would eventually run out of oxygen. You wouldn't be able to even let air through due to being super heated in nature. Somehow thinking this gives you a slight tinge of Déjà vu.

Luckily for you, you aren't exactly a helpless rider, and you have more than a few tricks up your sleeve, especially in a situation like this one. Not only is there more than enough Magical Energy in the air for you to do some pretty ludicrous things with, you feel as if you're even being supplied with magical energy from somewhere else as well. So, seeing as you know just what snakes are weak to, and such things applied even to Chiyome...
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You raise a hand in the air, and begin to generate and manifest a great icicle. A humongous lance of ice infused with the concept of truth, a freezing mass kept at a temperature of Absolute Zero, that you keep forcing to grow larger and larger, the magical energy in your surroundings might not be enough to sustain a Truth Barrier indefinitely, but it is more than enough to keep indefinitely growing a construct of ice like this one. After almost a full minute of charging up using all of your available magical energy, the added power granted to you by the Sash of Ares, the tremendous amounts of ambient magical energy, the immense empowerment that has been given to you by Vritra and the somewhat subdued support of the Counter Force, floating above your hand is a mountain sized chunk of ice itself, it's just a little bit larger than Vritra's head, and you decide that this is probably large enough for your purposes. If this doesn't work, then you'll start to wield Truth Barriers, but with any luck, this will have the intended effect. The sense of scale that the two dragons are operating on is something that you can't actually match up with without a great deal of charging up attacks. It's fortunate that Vritra and Orochi seem to be at least somewhat similarly matched in this place though.

"Hey! Grandpa! Catch!" You bring your arm forwards, and send the create mountain sized lance of ice careening downwards towards Orochi, the mass of ice shudders before it moves, but it eventually begins to fall down towards your foe without issue. It's at Orochi's lungs, or at least where you gather such things would be based on his body. If he doesn't attempt to block the attack, then his attempts at continuing to breathe flame will be cut quite short!

As expected, Orochi does try to block the pillar of ice. First, a single jet of flame breaks away from the clash to try to melt the ice projectile, yet even the purging white flame does nothing to ice infused with Truth. Another jet of flame, and still nothing. By the time that Orochi has realized the threat that the mountain of ice falling towards him presents, it's too late for him to properly do anything. More flame would do little to slow the fall or destroy the spear of ice, and all Orochi can do is watch in helplessness as the great icicle smashes into two of his heads, smashing them into pulp before it continues downwards before finally shattering when it reaches the base of his neck, freezing and shattering the remains of two of the heads and leaving two frozen wounds where Orochi seems to be quite incapable of regenerating his missing heads.
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"Now! Vritra! Give it everything you've got!" You command the dragon, though this time verbally, to finish Orochi off. With two of his heads missing and incapable of spewing forth flame, Vritra's advantage becomes absolute, and slowly but surely does the balance begin to shift in her favor. Her own breath slowly inches closer to Orochi, who, despite everything, is very much incapable of doing anything about it. You watch in satisfaction as you note the fear in his reptilian eyes before finally, Vritra's flame overwhelms him completely, and in an instant, his six remaining heads are burned away, yet the flame doesn't stop there, his entire body goes up in flames, rapidly burning away as Vritra lands triumphantly in front of the defeated Beast.

Was it really... that easy? Orochi seems to have been defeated utterly in the exchange, but something just... doesn't feel right here. You feel a hot sensation on your neck and notice that the Sash of Ares has actually begun to burn away! It seems that the energy it was being used to put forth was simply too great for it to continue existing. The power of Truth it was being used to help manifest must've overwhelmed it. It's really unfortunate that such a powerful weapon has been lost to you, but you can't even really feel bitter about it. That Sash really saved your ass. "Come on, Vritra, I... I think we're done here." You tell the Dragon to disable the Noble Phantasm, and with a flash of light, the world around you dissolves and you find yourself standing in the ruined Central Chamber again.

Though what you see is... not what you were expecting. Suzuka is kneeling on the floor, using one of her blades to support herself as Zolgen Makiri stands triumphant in the center of the room. No...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UVwKVsIQRs

"Ah! Shinji, that was quite the impressive display you gave me there, but... you can't honestly have expected it was going to work, could you?" Zolgen looks disappointed in you before he smirks. "Let me just tell you this, I am immortal. Truly. There's no way for you to kill me. So long as one of my crest worms exist, I can quickly have it assume my full power should I find myself indisposed. So, for as impressive as your little trick with sealing me into that world of yours was, I'm afraid that it was quite a useless endeavor in the end!" Zolgen begins to laugh wildly. He's no longer in the form of a Dragon, so he's not as powerful anymore, but... With the Sash of Ares gone, neither are you! "Yes, I've been avoiding making myself multiple bodies truly, as I didn't want to split my strength, but... Well, that's not exactly a problem considering that you destroyed my previous body, is it? Even a tenth of my power was suitable for defeating Saber here." Zolgen taunts you, and Suzuka grits her teeth. She's not exactly close to the brink of death, but she's definitely unable to keep fighting.
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"You... bastard!" You yell at Zolgen, is this bastard really unkillable? How are you supposed to defeat somebody who can just keep coming back every time he's killed like this?! His ability to come back to life after conclusively dying is just as bad as the immortality as Roa or Nrvnqsr! So, are you going to have to try to replicate their defeat?

"I've grown tired of dealing with you, Shinji. Even if you've foiled my current plan, when I've killed you, I'll have as long as I need to achieve my goals!" Zolgen suddenly springs forwards, with speed that you can barely even react to thanks to the loss of Ares' Sash, and you freeze for a moment, the only thing that could save you now is if Vritra was fast enough to interrupt the attack, but...!

"I wouldn't be so sure about that, Mongrel." Zolgen is stopped mid-charge as a golden chain pierces through his arm and locks him in place just long enough for another golden chain to pierce through his other arm. A golden portal opens up just to the side of you, and out walk Gilgamesh, Enkidu, Lugh, Sakura, Chiyome, Obeithion, Alcides, Nobunaga... Everyone, though you can't see Ciel still. It looks like the time dilation truly has ended, and your allies have found their own way to you.

The double usage of the Chains of Heaven from both Gilgamesh and Enkidu at once are holding at least somewhat, though even now the chains are beginning to strain to hold the tremendous power of Yamata-no-Orochi. Compared to something like Gugulanna, the Bull of Heaven, Orochi is leagues more powerful even in his current form. Still, he's trapped at least momentarily, so this could be your shot at killing him once and for all! Destruction of the body won't work, so... what?

>"Gilgamesh, use Enuma Elish!"
>"Enkidu, use Enuma Elish!"
>"Alcides, use Olympus se Tartarus!"
>"Ciel, do your thing!"
>"Sakura, use your magic on him!"
>"I'll take care of this myself." Prepare to apply a concept.
>Write-in...
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>>4766351
I'll take care of this myself." Prepare to apply a concept.
Null
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>>4766351
>"I'll take care of this myself." Prepare to apply a concept.
>Respectfully ask Gilgamesh to use a Noble Phantasm to freeze Zolgen's limbs, to be safe.
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>Battle Continuation: A+++
>A skill inherited from his host, and strengthened thanks to his own existence as a god. Yamata-no-Orochi is effectively unkillable, capable of regenerating even from a single drop of blood with no issue due to the nature of the body functioning as his own. Normally, Zolgen Makiri's body would require the crest worm containing his soul to survive in order to ensure his regeneration, but this limitation has been lost due to the nature of Yamata-no-Orochi, every single aspect of his body contains enough of his soul for him to regenerate from. It is possible to even regenerate from ash so long as it was part of his body.
>Even if he were to be completely deprived of a body, through possessing a new host before the dissipation of his soul, he is capable of continuing to exist.
Remember this.
>>4766351
>"Alcides, use Olympus se Tartarus to chain him too!"
>"Ciel, do your thing!"
>"Sakura, be prepare to destroy any physical remnants of him or his worms!"
>"Chiyome, start preparing your purification, cleansing and anti-possession barriers. Prevent his spirit from escaping, go all out, you can use your Noble Phantasm."
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Calling when?
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>>4766376
An hour from this post.
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>>4766351
>"Alcides, use Olympus se Tartarus to chain him too!"
>"Ciel, do your thing!"
>"Sakura, use your magic on him!"
>"Chiyome, start preparing your purification, cleansing and anti-possession barriers. Prevent his spirit from escaping, go all out, you can use your Noble Phantasm."
>Use your flames of Truth to destroy every last remnant of his trapped body, as well as his trapped soul.

Flames of Truth should work. We were able to cleanse Sakura of the crest warms completely without harming anything else. We have used Truth to affect that which is possible, but we can also have it do the impossible. A sword that can cut the uncuttable but cannot cut paper was Shishou's example. Our charsheet states "Truth abhors impossibility", and what is more impossible than Zolgen's current method of immortality?
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>>4766351
Switching >>4766379 to
>"Alcides, use Olympus se Tartarus to chain him too!"
>"Chiyome, start preparing your purification, cleansing and anti-possession barriers. Prevent his spirit from escaping, you can use your Noble Phantasm."
>"Everyone! Attack him with everything you've got Go all out!!"
>With grandpa weakened by the attacks of your allies, use your flames of Truth to destroy every last remnant of his trapped body, as well as his trapped soul.

Actually, we have a lot more people that can do something than just Sakura and Ciel. Let's see what they've got.
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>>4766379
>>4766398
Some things to keep in mind:
1. He might still have few crest worms scattered around
2. We can CS boost Chiyome
3. We can try to create barrier inside Chiyome`s barrier and fill insides of that barrier with Flames of Truth loaded with concept of "Total Annihilation of Body and Soul"
4. We can contact Arcueid and ask if she got her powers back to confirm if he is gone for good
We are also unaware how good will Lance of Longinus will go against him. But it should be something permanent.
And we need to heal Suzuka afterwards. She stalled him long enough.
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>>4766398
i dont know if having the rest of our allies attack orochi is a good move. I'm kind of paranoid of the fact that orochi's other servants haven't appeared yet. grandpa might cs them in and try to use to them to stall for time to break from the chains. i think we should have the rest of our allies be ready to intercept orochi's servants.
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>>4766407
If we kill his soul now, having crest worms around won't matter. I would support a revision of putting the flames inside the barriers, as you suggest. It's a good idea. We'll ask Arcueid after we're done, and yes healing Suzuka and Para are next.
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>>4766410
>orochi's other servants haven't appeared yet
If Merlin hasn't dealt with them yet, he is completely useless and deserves to be garden gnomed. And grandpa would have almost certainly brought them in already otherwise.
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>>4766413
You're just looking for excuses to garden gnome Merlin.
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>>4766416
I'm leaning towards a simple berating, actually, but it really depends on what he's actually done to save the world, other than block our scrying and teleportation.
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How about
>"Alcides, use Olympus se Tartarus to chain him too!"
>"Ciel, do your thing!"
>"Chiyome, start preparing your purification, cleansing and anti-possession barriers. Prevent his spirit from escaping, go all out, you can use your Noble Phantasm." with CS and Truth boost
>"Obeithion, use your Hope of Camelot!"
>"Everyone else, be on your guard!"
>Create barrier inside Chiyome`s barrier and fill insides of that barrier with Flames of Truth loaded with concept of "Total Annihilation of Body and Soul"
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We do not really want pieces of him or his blood being scattered around more than necessary.
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>>4766422
I still think we should have everyone attack grandpa.
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>"Alcides, use Olympus se Tartarus to chain him too!"
>"Obeithion, use your Hope of Camelot!"
>"Chiyome, start preparing your purification, cleansing and anti-possession barriers. Prevent his spirit from escaping, you can use your Noble Phantasm."
>"Everyone! Attack him with everything you've got! Go all out!!"
>Create barrier inside Chiyome`s barrier and fill insides of that barrier with Flames of Truth loaded with concept of "Total Annihilation of Body and Soul"

Something like that
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>>4766422
I am not 100% sure Hope is good because Alcides and Gil might reject it and that super debuffs them? Gil due to pride of not being artificially made Hopeful and Alc due to it being nonhuman elemental shit which is Gods minus faith. But I am also not sure its a bad idea as I cant be sure they WOULD reject it.

"In addition, morality is improved massively and mental fortitude is strengthened, one with hope shall never run away, no matter how dire things may become. Those who would reject this hope however, are weakened by a great deal, and have their parameters lowered by a single rank each."
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>>4766435
Why would they reject Hope? Gilgamesh is prideful yes, but with his clae and his girl and his Ishtar in a bottle it is the first day in millennia that he can hope for a better future for himself. And Enkidu is no more artificially created than Obeithion was, I see no reason Hope wouldn't work on him after we liberated him from the chains of fate.
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Medusa can seal us inside Pandemonium Cetus to prevent him from summoning help or escaping from here.
>>4766426
I am not fan of that because of >>4766424 this reason. The less of him scattered around the better.
Ciel and Lance of Longinus are few exceptions that should have really strong resistance to that.
>>4766435
>>4766439
Gil was cool with hope last time.
I think Alcides is in pretty good mood to have hope right now. With all things that happened today.
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>>4766439
The problem isn't Obei being artificial or there being nothing to be hopeful about. Its like telling Gilgamesh he needs actual magical effects to be strong enough and to have hope and morality forced unto him.

Based on what I understand about him, the problem is that its an external imposition. Even when CS'd, he just takes the 3 CS as "3 favours the summoner can ask"
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>>4766446
>>4766444
If Gil was cool with it last time, sorry. I forgot.

>>4766422
>>4766351
+1

Don't want everyone to fire off so they dont get in each others way like Enuma Elish blowing up Ciel who wants to stab or etc. And only a few like Lance of Longinus and Tartarus are anti immortality enough imo.
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>>4766435
As for Alcides, if all the crapping on gods we've been doing lately doesn't give him Hope the what will?

>>4766444
Most of the attacks should not spread blood and gore around. Grandpa is more resilient than you assume. Any loose pieces that happen to be created will be annihilated shortly, if not by an attack then by our flames of truth.We risk not weakening him enough if we hold back.

>>4766446
As that other anon said, Gil already accepted hope once. He'll be fine. It's not forced on him, it's something inspired in him.
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>>4766351
Switching >>4766379 and >>4766398 to make >>4766433 my final vote.
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>>4766351
>>4766422
Support
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I don’t think we should even mention Ciel, she knows what to do and even sliver of attention could disrupt her concealment
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>>4766461
This is a good point. Also, if you let everyone blow him and want to finish him off, maybe applying a concept would be better, if hes so destroyed that we can go closer.
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>>4766465
Touching him probably still a bad idea. Let's try that only if the flames don't work.
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>>4766351
Going from >>4766366 to >>4766422 as my vote
>>4766454
I am with >>4766452 anon here. If let`s say Lugh get close to grandpa snake head might appear to eat him like it happened with Lobo.
>>4766461
>>4766465
>>4766467
I think due to amount of strong people present Ciel will wait for command rather than engaging on her own.
If he survives all of that than in next vote we just make Chiyome give us extra protection and concept him with something bad.
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>>4766351
>>4766422
Support
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>>4766468
I think you guys are severely underestimating grandpa again if you think anything else than going all out is going to finish him off when a mountain of True ice and Vritra's breath didn't, but I've said my piece.
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>>4766351
>>4766433
Supporting
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>>4766471
He might be willing to let himself get hit so his torn off leg would fly to the other side of the room to escape from barrier or something like that.
Both ideas are gamble in that regard.
And if we were super autistic about that we would just ask Vritra to go for second round of Asha Vahishta.
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Right, what won?
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>>4766474
>Both ideas are gamble in that regard.
True enough. Having only Ciel attack him is a gamble that fails if it ends up not being enough. Going all out is a gamble that fails if it ends up being too much. I know what I'm betting on, and we can't convince each other, so let's just see the votes now.

And Asha Vahishta didn't kill him off the first time, and we no longer have Ares's Sash. What makes you think the second time would go any better for us?
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>>4766478
>>4766422
i think this won
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>>4766480
I thnk the point of a RM would be to have him inside a enclosed space.
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>>4766485
Yeah, but the point of everything we do now is to kill him, not stall him. How does Vritra help?
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>>4766480
>>4766485
>>4766487
>And Asha Vahishta didn't kill him off the first time, and we no longer have Ares's Sash. What makes you think the second time would go any better for us?
I was under the impression that was because he left piece of him behind and reformed from it. We could go with some other ideas to kill him for good inside of it with unlimited power and him being weaker and not being giant snake.
Anyway, since both variations include Chiyome and Obeithion, I am more or less fine with either since we are taking care of
>Even if he were to be completely deprived of a body, through possessing a new host before the dissipation of his soul, he is capable of continuing to exist.
This part.
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>>4766491
We no longer have ultimate power without Ares's Sash, and he can turn into a giant snake in an instant. Pulling him into a Reality Marble also frees him from Gil and Enkidu, wasting their entrance. I see absolutely no point.

Anyway, QM called for your minimal force version. Let's hope it's enough.
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>>4766351
>"I'll take care of this myself." Prepare to apply a concept.

The concept has to be something that will spread to everything he's connected to. Any ideas? Cancer etc.
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What's the point of calling out to Ciel? She's in stealth why break that. Just let her use her own judgement to attack.
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Uhhh, gotta get some groceries so update might take some time.
While I'm away though, why don't you tell me what sort of activities are you most looking forward to getting to have all your Servants experience in the modern world?
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>>4766672
Sex
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>>4766672
Trying to find a hobby or finding out how their lives/legends were adapted. . . Especially the weird adaptations or beliefs about them.

>>4766681
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>>4766672
Impregnation
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>>4766281
>no Quadruple Giga
unbased

>>4766347
>Absolute Zero
huh, now I want a railgun
concept of Superconductivity for Monica when we get there?
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>>4766672
Actually having a good meal to eat with everyone. Actually getting a good nights rest with no worries. Managing our Enterprise. Pranks. Doing human stuff. Having kids with Sakura and Alaya. Moving to the United States. conquering Britian.
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>>4766672
Baby making
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>>4766351
>>4766422
Supporto.

>>4766672
Riding Medea and Sakura!
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>>4766672
>>4766702
Also having a big meal with everyone and people fighting over who cooks what for who etc.
And time with our daughters.
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>>4766672
Servants? I just want to actually interact with them, in any way. It's been ages since we last did that, and we have way more people around now.

Though I certainly wouldn't say no to a second child with Medea.

>>4766702
>Actually having a good meal to eat with everyone
We should hold an "We killed grandpa!" feast tomorrow to celebrate. With food from all their countries and the entertainment we promised Vritra.
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>>4766672
I want to feed the British Royal family to a cute drunkard oni.
Televise their executions .
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>>4766719
We should probably invest in a chastity belt.
I fear for what Sakura might do to us tonight.
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>>4766724
>I fear for what Sakura might do to us tonight.
A) Tonight, when this is over, we get Sakura and Medea together in an empty bedroom
B) We tell them we love them both
C) Wait and Hope
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>>4766728
I can't believe Dantes is going to take our first time.
How scandalous!
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>>4766672
Just chill down, have fun and eat good food made by us/shirou/EMIYA/tamamo
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>>4766728
We can always kill ourselves if they start the apocalypse. So it sounds good.
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I'm actually looking forward to seeing how long it takes the Poos to kneel to Karna.
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>>4766728
get Hope buff from SAlter
RM from Satsuki
we will need to minmax it with everything we have, get to work Niggerman

>>4766717
Making Suzuka and Tamamo roommates!
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>>4766750
I wonder how long it takes before they kill each other.
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>>4766717
Also playing arcades with Waver and Shirou.
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>>4766750
I actually think it has a decent chance of working without cheats. We encouraged Alitheia to accept them both as her mothers, we've kissed them both today, and they're not completely blind. It won't come out of the left field.

And even if it doesn't go perfectly, I don't see them launching nukes over this. At worst they'll tell us they need time to think or something.
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>>4766763
Let's set up a vidya contest with a 20 million dollar prize.
Should help attract Jinako.
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>>4766761
I'd give it like 1 minute they already hate each other it only gets worse once they find out they're after the same guy.
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>>4766770
This actually sounds like it could be kind of fun.
Very lighthearted.
It would be a little too long for a Carnival Sketch though.
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Go fishing with Irish Lancers and complain about troubles with women.
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>>4766786
I wonder if we could pull Shishou out of her hole to get the whole set.
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>>4766793
Technically, you have a better shot at accomplishing it here in Imaginary Number Space than you do pretty much anywhere else.

just saying.
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>>4766796
Lets kill orochi first, we can try summoning later.
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>>4766796
Interesting.
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>>4766796
Do even know a summoning ritual? Since I thought it was trying to summon living Scath. . . I guess Casters can.
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Let's go ultimate Rune teacher is possible. Surpass Touko and finally get some use of Runes midbattle because goddamn does Shinji need something combat ready.
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>>4766351
>>4766422
Support
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>>4766796
Shouldn't Touko have primordial runes that connect to Scathach?
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>>4766796
then dont shoehorn us into the next location after we fuck zolgen up
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"Alcides! Use Olympus se Tartarus to chain him as well! Ciel! You know what to do!" You bark out two orders to your allies first, if Zolgen really is truly as immortal as he thinks he is, then you'll have to just take as many actions as you can to make sure that he remains dead for good. He won't be coming back when you're done with him, you can guarantee that. This ends here.

"Alright, feel the power of the chains that bound the Titans! Olympus se Tartarus!" Alcides shouts the name of his Noble Phantasm out triumphantly and starts exuding a tremendous amount of energy, dozens of times more than he was before! Multiple red portals are torn open from the floor and a dozen chains spring out the wrap around Zolgen before they start to try to drag him into a portal underneath his feet. Though it seems to be tremendously slow, as if Zolgen is still managing to reject being dragged downwards somehow.

"You think that you could defeat me with chains forged of divinity? Don't make me laugh!" The red chains begin to creak, before two of them shatter entirely! "I am the one who will consume the gods of this planet!" It seems that Zolgen's control over Orochi is slipping pretty badly. "You believe that you could bind me with the Authority of Zeus?!" two more of the chains snap, and now even the Chains of Heaven being used by both Gilgamesh and Enkidu are straining again. "I'll crush you all!" Zolgen's body begins to swell slightly, as if he is about to explode outwards, but...

A long simple spear is suddenly thrust all the way through his body. His heart pierced through entirely by the Lance of Longinus carried by Ciel, who throws off the Shroud of Matthias as she looks at Orochi. Her face is disgusted, almost as if the very existence of Zolgen is one that makes her feel sick.

"This... spear... You think that it will... stop me? You poor fool." Despite his confident words, Orochi is very clearly suffering, and a great darkness of rot is spreading out from where he was struck by Longinus, his body rapidly being overcome by necrosis and death, before suddenly, the spear itself is repulsed out of his body, almost as if it was dragged out from the inside. "That spear is something that can kill even a god, but it also contains the property of resurrection! You'll never defeat me with the spear bathed in the blood of the Messiah!" Looks like Zolgen is well aware of just what he was stabbed with, and despite his confidence in his own abilities, you aren't so sure. He doesn't seem to be able to heal the wound given to him by Longinus, and though the necrosis spreading through his entire body has stopped, it looks like he can't heal from that either. Had he been an actual human being or somebody who would naturally die from being struck in a vital point like his heart, then there's no doubt about it, Longinus would've killed him in a single strike, yet even now, Orochi is refusing to just die!
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"Chiyome! Start preparing as many barriers as you can around him! Purification, anti-spirit anti-evil, everything you've got! Understand?! You command the loyal ninja to put up some barriers. "If it will be useful, use your Noble Phantasm too!" You are unaware of just what her Noble Phantasm is right now, but giving her permission to use it is important regardless, if she thinks it will help, she'll use it.

"Yes, my lord!" Chiyome springs to action and starts throwing around an incredible deal of ofuda around Zolgen, dozens if not hundreds of paper talismans float in the air in a ring formation around the evil magus in the form of a god. "My Noble Phantasm won't help here, unfortunately!" She looks at you for just a moment as she dashes around Zolgen with incredible speed and reveals that whatever her Noble Phantasm is, it isn't something that could be used to help you against Orochi in a situation like this. Unfortunate, but she's powerful enough as a Servant without needing to rely on a Noble Phantasm, as far as dealing with curses, there isn't a Servant more powerful than Chiyome is now. In fact, with her abilities, it would be quite simple to forge a partnership with any Servant that suffers from any sort of curse that couldn't normally be broken. Somebody like Rama, for instance, would possibly even betray his Master if it meant being able to get the curse that keeps him eternally separated from his beloved wife removed.

"Obeithion! Use Hope of Camelot! Empower everyone here!" You shout out your last order to the Fairy Queen, who is quick to respond as she flies up in the air and begins to gather the magical energy needed to activate her immensely powerful group strengthening ability. "Everyone else, be on your guard and be prepared for anything." You begin to walk towards Zolgen, who is still bound in many chains with a great necrotic wound where his heart should be. If Zolgen's body weren't composed of many different beings like a sort of colony lifeform, he'd be dead already, but he's basically an immortal self-replicating being, so long as one of his crest worms or even his soul survives, he'll be able to live on. You can feel the activation of Obeithion's Noble Phantasm strengthen you, even if you aren't quite paying attention to her, Hope of Camelot was activated.
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So you'll make sure that there's nothing left! Even if he's left another Crest Worm laying about, you'll incinerate his very soul! You take a step into the ring of ofuda set up by Chiyome, and Zolgen snarls as you approach. "This won't stop me for long, Shinji. Nothing will stop me for long. I've become truly immortal now! My long dream of immortality has been fulfilled, and now I'll use this immortality to grant humanity a world free of suffering or hatred! Stop getting in my way!" The bound man doesn't seem to understand the situation that he's in, and you form a barrier of truth around him, all of the chains binding Orochi dematerialize as the barrier forms around him, and you aren't sure if that was the doing of the Servants or of the barrier itself, but it doesn't matter.

"No, Grandfather. I'm afraid that this is where it ends." Sakura walks all the way up to you and Zolgen as you look down on him. "For Sakura's entire life, you tried to cause her to suffer for your own ends. Somebody like you doesn't deserve to live, never mind create a utopia. You were willing to go to such evil extremes to achieve your goals, how could you ever be trusted with the fate of humanity in your hands? How could anybody ever trust somebody like you with that power? You're the reason that Zelretch judged the Matou as inherently evil! You might think your ideals are noble, but you just want to be in control! You don't want to save humanity!" You yell at the man, who has his face twisted into an angry snarl.

"You just can't understand what I'm trying to do! Humanity will never find happiness on their current path! They need somebody to guide them!" Zolgen beats uselessly against the side of the golden barrier sealing him off from the rest of the world.

"Then if somebody has to guide humanity, I shall guide the way, not you." You hug Sakura close to you. "Now, for what you did to Sakura, and what you would've forced onto this world, I sentence you to death, Zolgen Makiri." You suddenly form a ball of flame in your hand, out of Truth. But it's not just any flame, this flame is composed of a very special concept. "Total Annihilation of Body and Soul. That's what this flame is."

"You wouldn't..." Zolgen's eyes widen in alarm as you bring the flame towards the barrier of truth, and the small ball of flame easily passes through the usually impassable barrier. "Shinji! Listen to me! I could've made everything right! It would've all been wo-"
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"Shut up." You cut Zolgen off as the flame touches him, and after that point, the only thing that he's capable of doing is screaming, the sound of a soul being burned. But it's not just the soul of Zolgen that is destroyed, the soul and existence of Yamata-no-Orochi and Barbatos is also obliterated, you stare at the flame for a moment, and as you do, a curious image springs to your mind...

>A lost child, wandering without reason.
>A peerless blade, forged of divinity.
>A man standing above a fallen god.
>A calamity being averted.
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Good job, lads.
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>>4766882
tough choice... the child, or the calamity?

>A calamity being averted.
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Yes! Burn, grandpa, burn! Burn for Sakura's sake!

Ahem. Now, the blade is obvious, but what might the other images be? Can't think of anything.
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Oh shit we RIP'd Yamata-no-Orochi. Did we destroy some part of Nature or was it already integrated into Physics?
A lost child, wandering without reason.
Maybe Zolgen himself before he got his grand dreams or love of Juzteaze?
A peerless blade, forged of divinity.
Probably Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi?
A man standing above a fallen god.
If this is still related to Orochi probably Susanoo having killed Orochi?
A calamity being averted.
This is probably Goetia's plan and maybe the entire 72 Demon Gods system being BTFO by erasing Barbatos completely with Truth.

I don't know what to vote for though.
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>>4766882
>>A lost child, wandering without reason.
For some reason, this one is calling out to me
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>>4766882
>A lost child, wandering without reason.
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That was a great superboss honestly, we finally completed our initial goal and killed Zouken and completely saved Sakura
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>>4766882
>>A man standing above a fallen god.
Only took 10 years and Shinji acquiring a collection of the world’s deadliest people but wormpa’s finally dead, now it’s time go have a Legate Lanius conversation with the Manakas
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>>4766882
>A peerless blade, forged of divinity.

I am going to choose this just in case it makes it possible Kusanagi survives the flames and just fall out of Orochi or something. Maybe we can give it to Shuten and boost her.

It's probably just what we see due to burning souls, but I am not 100% sure.
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>>4766878
Praise be unto him our Lord, God of all above. All the glory unto thee.
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>>4766882
>A calamity being averted.
Well, that is what we did here. We averted a calamity. Close contention with the lost child I admit. I don't care about the crummy sword at all, or about lording it over a fallen god.
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>>4766882
A peerless blade, forged of divinity.
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>>4766910
we can still get the sword from Shuten, Ibuki-Douji has the sword
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>>4766882
>A lost child, wandering without reason.
Is this Manaka? We haven't talked to her yet.
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>>4766882
>>A lost child, wandering without reason.
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>>4766882
>A peerless blade, forged of divinity.
Despite grandpa being a dick he did give us 4 harem members he deserved to be thanked for that at least.
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>>4766912
Another reason not to go for mere loot when we have so many more interesting choices.
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I am not even sure these are connected to Zolgen or Orochi or Barbatos.

It could also be hints the Counter Force is sending us about something now that we've been connected into it a bit and that we've destroyed a Threat to the Planet they couldn't touch due to stolen TA juice.

Honestly, the "peerless blade, forget of divinity" made me think of Excalibur first, so this MIGHT be CF sending us hints about stuff, and one of them is Manakas managing to call up an APEX to customize and corrupt.

In that case lost child might be OG Avenger Angra who's been basically bitch bullied at this point by everyone who are greater threats and got Hope'd, and the others I don't know.
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Isn't Shuten his daughter? Let's hope this has no timey-wimey fuckery effects on her if we just Roa'd Orochi
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sword is completely useless when we can already find it later, technically Shinji shouldn't know but he can make an educated guess since Shuten in one legend was the spawn of Orochi
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>>4766919
Seems like too much of a stretch. The blade is very obviously Kusanagi, and so the rest of them are probably connected.
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>>4766882
>A peerless blade, forged of divinity.

I want Orochi's sword. We can learn from third Saber when we have time. I just want a way for Shinji to actually fight directly.
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>>4766921
We didn't erase him from the Root, just burned him in the here and now. Shuten will be fine.

>>4766924
Even if we can never find it again, the sword seems the most boring choice by far to me.
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>>4766921
Roa got to never exist in the fist place, here we just annihilate the soul and body.
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>>4766928
The thing is we don't know if this Sword is more powerful considering Orochi was a three way combo.
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I think its extremely funny that Shirou keeps dying trying to Trace swords he shouldn't, maybe it wasn't the best idea to show him every weapon we know
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>>4766932
So what? Is the boring powergaming option really the right one here, when we just btfo'd grandpa the secret superboss without it?
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>>4766933
Eh, it's a learning experience for the sword autist.
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Could be reward, plot hook of vision of the past.
The most related things I can think of
>A lost child, wandering without reason.
Ibuki just spawned somewhere? Or vision of the past from Zolgen`s life?
I am biased to pick it since we have children saving theme going already.
>A peerless blade, forged of divinity.
Kusanagi? Not that much interested in it. Loot is a nice reward but Sword of Truth is always better pick.
>A man standing above a fallen god.
Some nice vanity perhaps? I am not against it but hardly that interested in it.
>A calamity being averted.
Curious about this one.

Really not sure how to vote.
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>>4766880
This was very satisfying. I honestly expected the fight to drag on for a while, but it's nice if for once things work the way you Hope them to.
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>>4766934
Ya because we had to spend extreme amounts of time and luck getting things to win. Hell if we had gone by your vote with the summoning circles we wouldn't have Suzuku and the time Dilation would have killed us.

More combat power means more safety net. Also do we know if the other options aren't power gaming options just in different flavors?
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>>4766932
Another possibility is that we're being tricked still in mindscape and reaching for the Sword is the way to permakill the worm. But I don't think OP would do this to us.
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Rolled 1 (1d4)

>>4766882
I'll let the dice decide for me.
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>>4766940
I don't think the child is Ibuki, when Shuten already exists. Wandering without reason fits pretty well with what grandpa's been doing since he forgot why he wanted immortality for. I went for calamity because I'm curious too, but I'll switch to the child if it means not getting the sword of power.

>>4766944
Suzuka ended up doing very little in the fight. Reality Marble brought down the Time Dilation, not her. And Grandpa wanted to talk, so he wouldn't have killed us before we RMed if we didn't have her.

And do you really want to drag past votes into this, mr "nooo, we shouldn't cut off our own arm"?

Other options might give us power too. Or they might not. But the sword has nothing going for it other than power. It's the boring powergaming option, no other way about it.

>>4766946
Nah, grandpa's soul is burning. I am absolutely sure this is not a trap.
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>>4766946
Nah I don't want to be so paranoid. Maybe the reward is a piece of Orochi combo. The sword representing Orochi, his power or the physical sword.

The boy representing Zouken his power or his knowledge. Calamity could be the demon gods power, knowledge etc and the man over god could be Alaya or just a legend boost.
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>>4766882
You know I’ll change my vote >>4766905 to to my second choice
>>A calamity being averted.
Sounds like it’ll get rid of something annoying in the future
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>>4766951
We didn't need to cut the arm if you go back it was said it freaked out the ninja while the chant would have done all of it anyway.
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Thinking about it some more, I hope the lost child isn't Zouken reincarnating as a child for a second go at life. I hate him too much to adopt him.
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>>4766882
>A man standing above a fallen god.
This one feels the most poignant; we've spent this entire quest fighting against Zouken and finally managed to bring him down.
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>>4766961
Let's not go at this again. WhatIs confirmed cutting off the arm was faster than the Aria AND that it was necessary.
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>>4766882
Calling in 20
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inb4 the choice is which part of this event serves as either becoming part of our potential HS legend or which part catalyzes a summoning, maybe started by CF.

Since the last 3 are basically all part of this event from different viewpoints or different parts of it. There is a divine blade in Orochi, we stand above a fallen god, and a calamity, specifically a god of calamity, was averted.

Lost child is the odd one out, and I am not sure what it is other than potentially Zolgen himself.
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>>4766882
>A calamity being averted.
I think I`ll go with this in the end on a chance that this prevents another world ending threat showing up in the near future and blindsiding us.
>>4766977
Will you tell us about other choices afterwards?
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>>4766882
>A lost child, wandering without reason.
Give us a final snake waifu you old FUCK.
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>>4766882
>A lost child, wandering without reason.
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>>4766882
>A lost child, wandering without reason.
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Honestly, there really wasn't much Zolgen had left in the tank here.
Without ELIXIR on his side, the rest of your allies showing up were enough to handle him.
The amount of anti-divinity attacks available to you meant he was basically doomed.
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>>4766882
Switching from>>4766916 to
>A lost child, wandering without reason.
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>>4766882
Guess I'll switch >>4766910 to the Lost Child as well.

Please don't be reincarnated grandpa, please don't be reincarnated grandpa.
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>>4766882
>A peerless blade, forged of divinity.
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>>4766996
I will admit, while burning him was pretty satisfying, I was looking forward to Alcides and Medusa tag teaming him, Lugh darting around, Aoko using the 5th, etc. I'll take the victory, but I'd have liked to have given our allies a chance to shine.
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>>4767003
Gilgamesh and Enkidu kind of... ruined the chances of that happening, considering their speciality.
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>>4766996
Can you do interlude from someone else perspective on this?
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>>4767007
You said the chains were struggling, I was fully expecting him to be needed to be beaten into submission before they fully worked.
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>>4767014
Yeah, but then you straight away went for Alcides joining in on the binding, then Chiyome also joined in.
THEN YOU JOINED IN.
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>>4767016
Well, I hope you have something suitable prepared for when we storm Manaka's temple. It's no fun to have gathered all these people if they end up doing nothing.
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>>4767020
Plot twist: Manaka packed her things and planeswalked to another world.
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>>4767024
Would be pretty funny, ngl. I find it really hard to see her topping killing grandpa like this.
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>>4767024
Why did the Manakas want to become multiversal gods again? Just because?
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Did you enjoy the end of OrochiZolgen's wild ride?
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>>4767026
You've not actually talked to either long enough to discern their motive.
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>>4767027
>pic
He did have good style.
And yes.

Did we permanently disintegrate Ares' Sash and what does Alcides think about that, if so?
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>>4767027
Kinda wish Sakura had said something. Instead we talked for her.
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>>4767027
Yep
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>>4767027
Learning it was Grandpa in charge and confronting him directly was great. The end was great. I've had some misgivings about some of the parts in the middle, but I think I've made my peace now.

>>4767031
Manaka was even waving at us during our last dream!

>>4767038
I'm hoping she'll say something after he burns for good.
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>>4767027
Thanks for the waifus wormpa
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>>4767038
She was too enamoured with you to properly think of some taunting words to say to Zolgen.
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>>4767027
I wanted to imprint him with the concept of Repentance to force him to be a Beast of Alaya and repent for all he's done, but this is a somewhat satisfying end for an arc that happened because of... Arc.
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>>4767046
Well, she's got her missing power back now, at least?
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>>4767026
Something really dumb like going super yandere on cosmic scale for Arthur.
How was she planning to deal with Azathoth, Nyarly and YHWH after doing all of that? Who knows.
>>4767027
It was great. Glad we got personal boss.
I still feel a bid bad for Arcueid though. We kind of benched her and did rescue the White Princess of the True Ancestors thing. Again,
>>4767044
Understandable.
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>>4766882
>>A lost child, wandering without reason.
Not even for waifu shit, i just like children.
>>4767027
I wish he could have suffered more.
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>>4767044
I'll accept that.

We're already hugging. Will she kiss us now that the nightmare is over?
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>>4767050
You let him get basically one step away from his ultimate scheme succeeding and then pulled it all away from him and set his soul on fire.
There's not really much more suffering he could've gone through.
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>>4767048
She needs to learn how to DODGE
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Fuck Shinjibowl, I'm excited for Ayakabowl
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Anyway, what is winning right now?
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>>4767031
I really hope the bored manaka reason to helping the other one isnt just "i was bored."
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>>4767055
French kiss with Justeaze in front of him?
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>>4767060
Pretty sure it's the Lost Child.
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>>4767055
I guess so.
Oh well, its better than if we failed again.
Also we need to rub in manaka's face how zolgen did her plan faster than herself.
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>>4767008
Support

>>4766882
>A calamity being averted.
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>>4767031
Hope we get a dream with her now that Orochi is dead, also extremely worried that Orochi's servants will go to her, especially since Nero is the second half of Beast VI
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>>4767055
friendly reminder to let us do anything without being shoehorned into another location without our input.

please. i just want to summon skadi and maybe talk to tiamat, now that we're in IMS
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>>4766882
>A calamity being averted.

>>4767008
This

>>4767027
Glad we got rid of the worm.
Kinda wished others could've shined more too but our group is honestly too big.
Perhaps for Manaka like >>4767020 said

>>4767031
That is something we should change
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>>4767070
I'd still vote for us to get out asap. We have Merlin, Waver's group, Monica, Bazett and Cu to deal with. We have Para now, he can make us another portal anytime.
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>>4766882
Changing from
>>4766908
to
>A calamity being averted.
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Should I call for Lost Child then?
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>>4767073
Couldn't Para and Suzuka big brain ELIXIR and turn it into a summoning system?
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>>4767073
Well, he can make another portal if the place continues to exist while not being observed, which is a real danger for somewhere in Imaginary Number Space. It's defined by not being defined unless by force.
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>>4766882
>A man standing above a fallen god.
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>>4767080
ELIXIR is gone.
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>>4767079
I mean, i guess? Its my vote so i'm biased.
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>>4767079
Yes.
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>>4767048
I feel a little bad about how she is liable to feel for being benched after getting gobbed.

We need to thank all our allies for helping us deal with this menace. And introduce Vritra and Suzuka I guess.
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>>4767049
>I still feel a bid bad for Arcueid though. We kind of benched her and did rescue the White Princess of the True Ancestors thing. Again,
Who would Arcueid be if she didn't let highschoolers fight her battles for her?
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>>4767080
Elixir is gone. It couldn't handle the Truth. We'll have to ask Para to build us a new one.

>>4767081
There is no place. Grandpa smashed his base to pieces when he grew to several mountains tall. He got here once, he can do it again.
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>>4767079
Leave it for a few
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>>4767086
>I feel a little bad about how she is liable to feel for being benched after getting gobbed.
She'll redeem herself by soloing Tesla. She hard-counters him, electromagnetism is a natural force.
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>>4767087
Well I guess she IS a princess and princesses do tend to delegate the messy business.
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>>4767094
I don't want to.
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>>4767079
Yes


>>4767083
Damn, well we have like 4 Casters and a big brain Saber so we can probably do SOMETHING, if Zouken can do multiverse genocide we should be able to create something greater than what Chaldea had
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>>4767099
Do you guys really want more characters?
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Rolled 5 (1d10)

>>4767098
Let me roll then
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>>4767102
????
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>>4767102
>>4767098
5 more mins
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>>4767049
Well she's a princess, its kinda her job to delegate

>>4767101
I just wanna fully create the Age of Will and it feels like summoning tons of servants is important, also I want Scathach, Hopeman and Longinus
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>>4767098

>Lost Child
>>4766896
>>4766901
>>4766914
>>4766915
>>4766950
>>4766988
>>4766991
>>4766993
>>4766997
>>4766999
>>4767050

>Kusanagi
>>4766908
>>4766911
>>4766927
>>4767001

>Man standing
>>4766968
>>4767082

>Calamity
>>4766892
>>4766960
>>4766986
>>4767068
>>4767072
>>4767077

Lost Child by far. Please don't be reincarnated grandpa, I don't want to adopt him.

>>4767101
I'd say no, but I think I'm in the minority here.
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>>4767101
_no
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>>4767101
Yes.
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>>4767101
More is better
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>>4767101
I want more children yes
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>>4767101
...yes...
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>>4767101
Just start killing off characters we don't have high bond with :^)
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>>4767101
God no, I barely remember everyone that’s around
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>>4767117
But what if I did the opposite :^)?
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>>4767101
If you are going to do some further world saving arcs on the same or even higher powerscale our own Chaldea would be useful for it.
As far as characters go right now I would love to save Scáthach since she is kind of stuck at the moment and only we can save her.
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>>4767121
You'd be one of the cool kids, like Jokerqm.
Don't you want to be a cool kid?
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>>4767122
You do realize she wishes to die which we can achieve. Just make a deal where we do that in exchange for the totality of her knowledge.
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>>4767121
Just scale things down. We take like 6 or 7 people tops on our Clock Tower infil arc
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>>4767134
Yes. And if our world will go on forever she will spend rest of eternity inside Land of Shadows.
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>>4767137
I mean I'm planning on just taking Sakura, Shirou, Rin and Illya with us and taking maybe only Chiyome. We should act as inconspicuous as possible instead of trying to rawdog it and full on conquer Clocktower
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>>4767134
We made the same deal with Ciel, also we have Shiki, but Scathach is still a warrior so she doesn’t just wanna die, she wants to die fighting
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>>4767140
No professor Medea?
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>>4767143
You're gonna turn a lot of heads when some Greek woman no one has ever heard up just shows up and starts doing things on the level of True Magic, teached Medea comes after we own Clocktower
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>>4767153
Actually probably not. Having families of retard old lineages that are isolated and thus managed to preserve some manner of old Mysteries is not THAT uncommon that it never happens.
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>>4767153
She can hold back, no reason to show her full powers. And I imagine the Clocktower is pretty used to random isolated mages coming in with unique powers.
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>>4767157
>>4767159
>old Mysteries
>unique powers
"Being better than everyone even at their own speciality" is a pretty great unique power to have.
It's something Flat has too.
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As a random example, the McRemitzes were some random mages in bumfuck nowhere who held on to a Mystery of how to manifest an actual Noble Phantasm. No one was suspicious of Bazett, afaik.
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Just realized we need to dismantle the Church and probably fight the Burial Agency, Ciel is on their shitlist and Ciel is our friend, we can probably do that after we finish Clocktower though

>>4767157
>>4767159
Yeah good point, plus we can get Waver to vouch for her, he’s already a very well respected Magus and he's gonna owe us an arm and a leg after we settle his debts, get his Magic Crest back and reunite him with his King
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>>4767164
We'll tell her not to completely humiliate everyone during the application process. Better to catch them by surprise when we move in to purge those we don't want to keep after our takeover.
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>>4767168
You think the Church will forgive us if we send back Longinus with a little word explaining we used it to kill a world ending threat? Maybe add some freshly baked cookies to smooth things out?
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>>4767168
We also had Enhance steal the Lance of Longinus from them. I imagine they're pretty cross with us, yes.
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We probably should also see what the fuck is the deal with Flat.
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>>4767172
She can work as Waver's teachers assistant or something and he can more or less limit what she should or shouldn't do

>>4767174
Well considering that they train specifically to kill Magus and we committed one of the greatest acts of sin and stole the Lance that killed the Messiah... things aren't looking too good
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>>4767188
Just tell them God is totally cool with it.
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>>4767164
>Everyone scared shitless of Barthomeloi 2.0 Even More Broken Edition.
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>>4767168
>>4767174
>Pope is chilling in the Vatican
>tongues of fire come down as the Holy Spirit hands him a note
>"Shinji Makiri is based and did nothing wrong. -Big G"
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>>4767179
It's somewhat ironic that our goals are so close to grandpa's even with what he wanted Sakura for, except we're better in every single way.

>>4767188
Maybe if we also tell them we're God's representative on Earth, and we'll be writing a True Testament shortly?
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>>4767190
Ciel didnt believe we talked to God, you think the church will?
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>>4767188
>>4767190
>>4767194
So we summoning Jeanne d'Arc to act as our
spokesperson?
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>>4767191
I'm very excited to meet her, two egomaniacs at the peak of their craft clashing will be very fun
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>>4767185
Best theory I saw was Flat is some kind of proto magecraft based TA larva, from SF stuff. But desu no one is sure.
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>>4767196
Did she check for blessed circuits?
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>>4767197
Burial Agency is genuinely batshit and sadistic as all hell, they will very well consider Jeanne a fraud and Magus trick. Also Jeanne doesn't agree with what we're planning to do so there's that
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>>4767197
QM hates her, so I doubt it.
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>>4767214
Does he? He never said he did
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In the flame, you can see the image of a lost child wandering the world and you stare in wonder at the strangely lifelike image of the androgynous looking child, not expecting the flame to suddenly become a revelation as it has suddenly turned into. You spend some time watching the flame as the child looks around, its face is contorted with fear, and it tugs at your heart strings. You don't exactly know what relevance that this image has to anything. You wonder if it might have links to Orochi, but you genuinely don't know how this could apply to him of all people, it certainly doesn't apply to Zolgen.

In a few seconds, the flame completely dissipates, leaving... a tiny white snake with red eyes behind. Somehow, this snake managed to avoid being incinerated by the flame, and is chasing its own tail relentlessly. It doesn't seem to have any real signs of intelligence as it chases its own tail either. It's not Orochi or Zolgen, that's for certain. Perhaps... some sort of reincarnation of Orochi then? You aren't exactly certain how life was born in the flame of Truth, but you can't think of any other explanation for it.

"Onii-chan, is it... really over?" Sakura speaks, eyeing the white snake crawling about on the floor with a wary eye. Almost as if she wants to smush the innocent looking creature underfoot.

"It's over, for real this time. Zouken is dead." You know that for a fact. If this snake, which you can only assume to be a reincarnation of the deceased Yamata-no-Orochi inherited even the smallest amount of Zouken's mind or memories, it would certainly not be capable of acting as it is right now. "The nightmare is finally over, Sakura." You hug her tightly, glad to have finally managed to free her from the last thing from her past that could have possibly caused her distress. The existence of Zouken Matou is now gone, for good. You pick the snake up with one hand, and it starts squirming about in alarm. "This snake... I have no idea what this snake is, actually."

"Well, it came off of Zouken, so it's bad news, right?" Sakura has a cold hatred in her voice as she regards the snake with a piercing gaze. "You should just crush it." Sakura doesn't show any emotion on her face as she requests you kill it.

"Well, I don't know, Sakura... I don't think this thing has anything to do with Zouken. I think this is more related to Orochi than anything else." Now, you don't have nearly as much against Orochi as you have against Zouken, but if this is some sort of reincarnated form of Orochi's Spirit in an infant form, wouldn't it be a bad idea to keep it around? You suppose that Sakura might be right, and killing it may end up being the right thing to do, but... It kind of feels like you'd be killing a baby, in a strange way.

>Kill it.
>Keep it as a pet.
>Adopt it.
>Ask one of your allies about just what the hell it is. (Who?)
>Write-in...
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>>4767194
That would've been nice desu, and I don't think Ciel will want to destroy the structure that for all its shortcomings safeguards her own faith and morality, even if she quit the service by having a holy relic stolen.
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>>4767215
I think she was boring and misused in Apocrypha.
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>>4767190
let's chill with the VoG
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>>4767216
So, what were the other options?
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>>4767216
>>Adopt it.

I like snakes.
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>>4767221
Sword is obvious, other two are secret.
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>>4767216
>Kiss Sakura
>Ask one of your allies about just what the hell it is. (Who?)
>Suzuka, take a quick peek with trichiliocosm.
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>>4767217
They kept killing her for a year straight

>>4767216
>>Ask one of your allies about just what the hell it is. (Who?)
Paracelsus probably has an idea as he is a Caster and has been with Orochi for like a year probably
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>>4767216
Adopt it
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>>4767216
>>Adopt it.
We already have dragon child, fox child, meatball child and copy child created by meatball child.
Let's just add snek to the pile.
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>>4767216
>Adopt it.
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>>4767216
>Ask one of your allies about just what the hell it is. (Tamamo, Paracelsus, Medea and Karna)
>Adopt it.

Adopt it anyway, I just want to know more anyway.

Eastern Magecraft expert and god avatar, western modern magecraft expert, western AoG expert and super seeing truth Hindu dude.
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>>4767196
We'll take a page out of Moses's book and challenge the pope to a miracle-off. I think we can take him.

>>4767218
She definitely was. Plus, she's against the dead leading the living. She won't help us.

>>4767224
Intriguing.
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>>4767219
We should call one our attacks this.
>>4767216
>Adopt it.
>headpat snek
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>>4767224
It was Susanoo wasn't it?

>>4767218
Well Apocrypha is ass so there's that
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>>4767235
Supporting Headpats
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>>4767216
>Adopt it
>Headpat snek
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>>4767234
>Plus, she's against the dead leading the living. She won't help us.
Just tell her God said it's alright.
You can always just share the memory of that particular chat.
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>>4767224
I wanted the sword but if this is child Orochi we can be the God(-)father
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>>4767216
>Adopt it.
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>>4767216

>Ask allies if they recognize what it might be
>anyone, but I guess specifically Chiyome?

>Keep it as a pet

It's harmless and presumably blameless. Let's give it a good home.

Also take this as a cue to look for / ask Tamamo about the fox kit, it presumably needs to be cared after too.
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>>4767218
What about in Orleans then?
I never watched Apocrypha anyway.
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>>4767243
Point Assclap to her and make them chat about death and resurrection.
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>>4767243
She fully believed Amakusa was receiving visions from God and still fought him.
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>>4767243
Doesn't Revelations also show her that too?
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>>4767248
>Orleans
Nobody was a character in Orleans.
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>>4767227
Then it should be her call if she feels like the ones who did should be hunted down and given the taste of their medicine. So far she seems too principled for this to me.
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>>4766931
Jobbed again Barbatos
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>>4767251
There's a difference between receiving visions from God and having an actual full on conversation with him.
Like a major prophet.
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>>4767255
Even then the Burial Agency isn't gonna let it go and we're gonna be forced to kill them
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>>4767249
Speaking of, can Assclap cure Okita's TB?

>>4767253
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>>4767256
At least the snake child shares his color scheme.
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>>4767216
>Adopt it.
>Headpat snek
Fourth daughter wasn`t Kiara.
>Somehow, this snake managed to avoid being incinerated by the flame, and is chasing its own tail relentlessly. It doesn't seem to have any real signs of intelligence as it chases its own tail either.
Very cool, Ouroboros, very cool.
>>4767224
I can only that hope our choices ended up for the best.
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>>4767262
Can a magic man who can resurrect people cure TB? Not sure anon
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The fuck are we naming this snake if its sapient.
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>>4767036
Ares can regenerate all parts of King's Order within hours/days if his master keeps him fed
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>>4767259
Well, God didn't really tell us to take over the world or topple the Church. I believe she'll believe we misinterpreted his wishes.

But I don't like her anyway, so meh.
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>>4767271
Ouroboros.
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>>4767264
>Fourth daughter
Orochi is male, this is our first son
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>>4767271
We don't even know if it's sapient or just a pet, and we probably won't find out anytime soon now we're adopting it blind without asking anyone about it.
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>>4767270
As in, like into the Throne i mean

so that it'll stick for all her future summonings
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>>4767271
Link
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>>4767271
David
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>>4767216
>Adopt it.
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>>4767270
Its difficullt because its part of her legend and identity as a HS, supposedly. So it can be done by modifying how she is expressed as a Servant.
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>>4767273
I like her and feel she had a really bad go in life, I mean she was burned at the stake at age 19
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>>4767261
Sucks to be them, I guess.
We're going to need to be vigilant in general though. Between Agency, Enforcers, DAs, adjacent world threats, whatever renegade hoping to get piece of us...
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>>4767083
ELIXIR lite can be rebuilt through Para's sword though, unless his NP was destroyed and wiped off his char sheet when the main crystal bluescreened
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>>4767271
It's chasing its own tail, Ouroboros, obviously.
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>>4767284
Living Jeanne was great, no doubt about it.

Ruler Jeanne was awful though.
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>>4767275
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>>4767289
best form
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>>4767289
This does not look like a tiny white snake.
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>>4767216
Ouroboros-tan a cute
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>>4767293
if this was Ibuki I would've been expecting an egg or something
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>>4767293
We need to add water.
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>>4767264
>>4767274
>>4767287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjTzGepowCQ

>>4767289
Technically, it hasn't decided on a gender yet.
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>>4767253
That is just plain false.
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>>4767259
>"Hey God, why did you let the literally nicest and purest person in the world get burned at the stake?
>"All part of the plan, don't question it.
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>>4767301
I surgically removed the plot of Orleans from my head.
All I can remind is that Jeanne Alter isn't Jeanne but evil, but is instead Edgy Fanfic Jeanne.
Because Jeanne is 2 good 2 pure.
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>>4767304
That is the plot.
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>>4767300
Can we roll for gender?
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>>4767304
Jeanne Alter trying really hard to be evil but failing and just being an edgy chuuni will never not be funny.
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>>4767300
Can it please be a boy? The gender ratio is more than skewed already.

>>4767303
>Gilles seething
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>>4767216
>Adopt it

>Ask Chiyome, Gil and Clae what it is

forgot Tamamo wasn't here
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>>4767303
He was micromanaging how it turned out so she'd get an overpowered suicide attack that does nothing as a Servant, all part of the plan.

>>4767309
You know what as you're obviously going to adopt it, everyone roll a d2, majority roll wins.
1 is male.
2 is female.
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>>4767312

https://youtu.be/w8-cjd5cdIU

Can we please have a Son yet?
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>>4767300
>Shapeshift, Self-Modification with parts of total immortality and eternity due to being reborn out of total annihilation
Cool snake, I guess.
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4767314
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>>4767313
kek
>Tamamo, what is this snek?
>"Master... Tamamo died five years ago. It's time to let her go. Please, we're worried about you!"
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4767314
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4767314
Hope male, for some diversity
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
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>>4767314
But suicide is a sin?

I guess God hates the french?

>>4767317
Autofellatio snek is based

>>4767320
She's be best able to identify Orochi aspects if she was here
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
istg if the dice are a manwhore as well
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>>4767318
>>4767323
>>4767324
>>4767326
>>4767328
unbased, cursed dice

>>4767325
>>4767322
>>4767321
>>4767319
Based
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Rolled 1 (1d1)

>>4767314
>*inconspiciuous whistling*
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>>4767321
stop deleting rolls you fucking shitstain
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
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>>4767316
>Hits pipe

>>4767327
Doesn't everyone hate the french, including the french?

>>4767329
Why aren't you rolling?
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>>4767330
>"STOP, YOU VIOLATED THE LAW."
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>>4767327
>I guess God hates the french?
Gott strafe Frankreich
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
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>>4767327
pretty sure suicide is not the same thing as self-sacrifice.

Or a cynic would say, it's okay if you take someone with you. Like, say, Samson.
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

I also want to roll.
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>>4767314
>so she'd get an overpowered suicide attack that does nothing
Why does this ALWAYS happen?!
Everytime someone has a suicide attack, it never fucking works.
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
>>
Goddamn it another character for character bloat. Should have gotten the sword.

Now I gotta wonder what the others are.
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314
Please be a boy
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>it's another daughter episode, featuring:
>Serpent of Akasha
>Dragon God Queen
>Silver Key Witch
>Azathoth's Humansona
what do we call this group?
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>>4767347
Daughters of Truth
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...why does God hate us so?
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Showing up home with another kid going to be soooooo fun.
Divinity and snake. Medusa`s turn it seems?
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>>4767347
>shinji's daughters that he made in a day or 2
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>>4767347
>Discord mods' worst nightmare
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767314

>>4767334
Hope gacha gives me a Y chromosome
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>>4767354
>Punch God
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>>4767340
>Why does this ALWAYS happen?!
To build dramatic tension. Somebody kills themselves and goes all out and the villain is still fine?
Holy shit, this guy must be insane!

Dragon Ball for example is guilty of this multiple times.
Chiaotzu vs Nappa, Goku sacrificing himself to teleport Cell, and of course, this old chestnut.
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>>4767314
Please make it a dude
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>>4767352
Still a single day, actually. We're just running up the score at this point.

>>4767360
The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away. Such is the fate of His Prophet Shinji Makiri.
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>contact our buddy Nyarly to change the snek into a boy
If YHWH won't deliver, we simply turn to better gods
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>>4767363
vegeta's at least had him receive some character development.
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I'm not sure if I should call for daughter, or be cruel and give everyone one extra roll to see if you can push it in favor of a 1.
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>>4767353
Discord mod you say?
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>>4767347
Betty and the others jk i like Ali too
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Please write
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Merlin, I've come to bargain

>you receive, not being spawnkilled or GNOME'd for your actions

>I receive, Son
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I'm also reminded we still have to unfuck Iskandar. Should we do that as soon as possible or with Waver? It's probably going to be traumatizing to see him as he is now, but would he want to anyway?
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4767372
>>
So now the we should have some free time...
Can we finally meet with Waver?
Maybe see who Taiga's servant is?
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>>4767372
Extra roll! Extra roll!

>>4767373
I wish I'd saved the virgin vs chad meme of him when it was linked in a previous thread, but I didn't care enough to do it.

>>4767379
Definitely with Waver, we need to ask him what concept to apply.
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The dice decided. Daughter squad expands
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>>4767377
...what can possibly go wrong?
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>>4767372
I prefer another loli.
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>>4767380
Magical girls are a catalyst for men?
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You have ten minutes to redeem your bonus extra roll.
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4767389
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>>4767372
Anons freaking out about another daughter is funnier.
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>>4767384
Ilya fixed it
>>4767380
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4767389
let's flip another coin...
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4767389
Come on, come on!

>>4767381
Yes, meeting Waver and Merlin are the next things on the agenda.
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4767389
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>>4767388
A catalyst for shotas, it seems.
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Fuck, sons are for fags
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767389
Here. We. Go.
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Does that push it over?
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4767389
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767389
Here we go again.
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>>4767400
>Daughters are for cucks
>Sons are for fags
I don't understand.
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>>4767399
Whats the count, want to know if I need to redeem my extra roll.
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>>4767389
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>>4767400
Deleting your roll when you don't like it is extremely uncool and unbased.
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767389
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>>4767392
>>4767400
if you delete your roll AGAIN you should just be banned from voting here. how much of a limpdick are you to votescum, anon?
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>>4767408
Daughters are cute
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4767372
>>4767346
reroll
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>>4767408
The answer is clear

We should adopt Beaky
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>>4767409
I was kind of hoping somebody else was keeping track.
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>>4767414
You have strong gacha genes anon, two Son rolls
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>>4767418
Are we assuming the rerolls invalidate the original rolls or is it cumulative?
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The funniest part is that this snake is actually Shuten's sibling.
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>>4767421
It's cumulative.
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>>4767422
He's going to grow up to be an alcoholic isn't he?

Cursed Eastern Serpent genes
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>>4767422
So it's an existence that's Shuten-Ibuki adjacent. Good to know
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>>4767417
>We should adopt Beaky
That would make him the eldest son.
And he was the first every being we reinforced with Truth.
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>>4767413
Ywnbaw
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>>4767433
Suck my cock bro.
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4767389
>>4767408
Daughters are for cucks because you are spending all your time taking care of someone that will ultimately be given to someone else. You are training a woman you love to be someone else's lover.
Sons are for fags because the only people that would want a son instead of a daughter are people that would rather fuck the shota instead of the loli.
Of course, the son argument implies we will be having any sexual contact with the child to start with...so that's something to consider when determining which is true and which is the delusions of the mentally ill.
Daughter are 100% for cucks. If you don't want a son, your priorities are in the wrong place.
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>>4767434
No thanks tranny
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>>4767435
Oh wow, have I really not posted on anything this whole thread?
Guess I've been busy.
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>Son
>>4767319
>>4767321
>>4767322
>>4767325
>>4767380
>>4767392
>>4767396
>>4767397
>>4767406
>>4767415

>Daughter
>>4767318
>>4767323
>>4767324
>>4767326
>>4767328
>>4767333
>>4767337
>>4767339
>>4767342
>>4767346
>>4767354
>>4767403
>>4767407
>>4767410
>>4767412
>>4767435

>>4767422
Eh, who cares, the family tree was a mess already. And unless I missed someone, Shuten is getting a little sister.
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>>4767436
Try again faggot.
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Damn, 4 kids and still hasn't popped his cherry huh?
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Even the fucking dice want more women.
Haremfags are unstopable.
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>>4767441
Technically you could maybe count Obeithion too, but it's a real stretch.
Fox cub as well.
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>>4767439
thanks I hate it
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>>4767439
Oh well, abortion it is then.
:( At least we get a cute snek daughteru
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>>4767449
>>4767439
Honestly, while i prefer daughters because i find it more cute a son works too.
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>>4767450
It was unavoidable after WhatIs revealed himself as a haremfag too.
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>>4767451
How the fuck did we even get a fox cub? did she rape us while we were unconscious?
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Morgan please fix my child I don't want it aborted
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>>4767457
The Fox cub is her old master.
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>>4767457
It's the Tamamo's Master whom we adopted when we got engaged to her.
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>>4767457
Tamamo asked us to adopt it, we didn't say hell no.

Now I wish little Ourobora doesn't grow up rapidly like Alitheia. It should take a few centuries at least.
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>>4767456
I am simply serving the public's wishes.
>>4767457
You don't actually know its backstory yet, Tamamo just shotgun wedding'd you into adopting it.
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>>4767464
>>4767465
I see
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>>4767461
I think we found a way for Merlin to redeem his name.
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>>4767461
Here. Proper heir. Best she can do.
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>>4767457
We met it when we first met Tamamo and she wanted us to adopt it as our shared child.

She claims it's her Master. We still don't know what its deal is. It seems to be sapient to at least some extent.
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>>4767435
I can't imagine Medea and Sakura being too enthused at your POV of Alithea being an nothing more than an object to be given away at a later date
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>>4767474
More incest, lovely
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>>4767470
Alright. How many days until Manaka-Day?
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>>4767470
Inb4 its an actual 1 tail kitsune that somehow stayed on this side.
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>>4767480
Don't diss nasu incest. Nanaya speedblitz OP
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>>4767481
I don't even think you've slept since coming back from Misaki Town.

>>4767483
...

Anyway, what do you want to call your new... daughter?
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>>4767470
>I am simply serving the public's wishes.
A likely excuse. I hope you don't expect anyone to believe your increasingly feeble denials anymore. ;)

Is the offer for a Sakura interlude still open, btw? I'd like to see mother-daughter bonding on the helicopter ride at some point. Not really right now.
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>>4767492
Ouroboros.
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>>4767492
Velma
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>>4767492
Abortion

Ouroboria because its f*male
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>>4767495
Will you stop these baseless accusations of my haremfaggotry?
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>>4767492
We came back from Misaki Town literally this morning. It's not even been a full day yet.

And Ourobora. Ouroboros is a male name.
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>>4767492
οὐροβόρος,
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>>4767478
>I can't imagine Medea and Sakura being too enthused at your POV of Alithea being an nothing more than an object to be given away at a later date
It's not about viewing her as an object, it's simply how raising a girl works.
Either you do your best as a parent and get cucked when your daughter becomes her own person, moves on, and marries some dude cucking you in the process, or you raise her wrong like a horrible monster and turn her into some type of spinster that is devoted to taking care of you.
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>>4767501
I thought the smilie would make it obvious I'm joking now. Didn't realise it was bothering you, sorry.
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Daughter's name is some derivation of "Tail" "Swallowing"

Pottery.
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The fate of all fate quests is overwhelming character bloat
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>>4767492
Ouroboros, or a variety thereof.
More importantly though, a cute shorthand for the name? Ouroborous is a mouthful. Robie?
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>>4767506
I thought the spoiler would make it obvious that I was joking.
But yeah sure, you'll get that scene at some point.
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>>4767508
In standard wars you just kill people off, Narita caused this problem
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>>4767509
Ouro should do fine.
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>>4767492
Zolgen
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>>4767507
>derivation
Ouroboros literally means "He who eats his tail" in Greek. Ourobora is the equivalent for a she.

Trust me, I can speak the language.
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>>4767515
This is how you get your newborn snake daughter killed by Sakura.
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>>4767509
Robo
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Actually. changing
>>4767313

to

>Truth heal slap Para awake, present him new daughter and ask him what it is
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>>4767492
Kigyo!
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>>4767518
Thank you, Circe, really cool.
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>>4767508
It's probably the worst part about every fates quest.
Nobody has any self-control when it comes to seeing their favorite characters.
If given the option, players will go full collectathon every time, because the endless possibilities that Fate provides are simply too tempting to pass on.
The all-consuming gatcha has become intrinsic to the rest of the franchise and that extends to it's fanfictions.
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>>4767511
Thank you based QM!
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>>4767492
Shinsei
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>>4767518
Dionysios?

>>4767216

>>4767521
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>>4767525
It's kind of a shame you didn't pick her to be summoned.
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We still have to deal with Orochi's stray servants before we can celebrate, worst case scenario, Manaka
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>>4767511
If you're hanging out interludes, do a day in the life of flat. Or Godzilla vs Orochi.
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>>4767533
Not my name, if that's what you're asking.

>>4767535
If Merlin hasn't dealt with them in a satisfying fashion by the time we get there, he gets garden gnomed. No excuses.
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>>4767534
Then give us another opportunity
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>>4767541
Just checking you weren't the only greekoid I knew who was attached to Fate/
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>>4767535
They're running on literal fumes now.

Hopefully they weren't killed and handed over to Manaka by Merlin once again being a bigger obstruction than Vrita, a conceptual obstruction
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>>4767535
Nice Beast, Manaka. It would be a shame if something happened to it.
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>>4767534
I hope and pray we never see Circe in this quest...I-I couldn't do it bros.
Not after Akeldama and Awakening.
I loved her bros and her just being another side chick in Shinji's harem...I-I just can't.
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>>4767563
She'll exist in the Akeldama crossover carnival
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>>4767563
It's not like you're the only person around who can tank cursed kykeon.
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If Manaka somehow rides the Beast of Revelation, does the Beast count as enough of a dragon to trigger our anti-dragontamer part of our dragon blessing against Manaka?

Since Revelations, the Dragon etc
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Manaka having Nero makes things fucking hard as shit dude. She would have an actual Beast on her side instead of a Fake one or half of one
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>>4767568
>Circe getting with SHIKI
That...might be kinda cute.
But I don't know man.
Having Circe be here would be like...seeing Laura in anything after reading Homeless Mutant.
I literally can't look at that character the same way after seeing how well written and wholesome she was in that quest.
It physically hurts me.
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>>4767505
Do you want to marry your own kids?

How's life treating you Mr. Fritzl
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>>4767580
It hardly matters, Circe is basically one of the most famous cuckqueans in mythology.
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>>4767569
Assuming its vanilla Beast of Revelations reaching full form it effectively become a full incarnation of Satan. Which is likely where the Nega-Messiah Beast Authority comes from.
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>>4767580
Are you looking forward to Awakening Redux Sweets promised?
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>>4767580
Truth will bring Crusty back it hurts bros...
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Vote called?
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>>4767584
Mad Odysseus is so based
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Can we call this guy via tamamo phone or something. We need to tell him party's over and he lost his chance for revenge. He's going to look like an idiot if he arrives here once we're all gone.
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>>4767614
>He's going to look like an idiot if he arrives here once we're all gone.
Good. I imagine we'll pick him up on our way.
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>>4767584
Bruh.

>>4767586
I'll totally read it when it drops...but I doubt it'll be what I want it to be, for better or worse.

>>4767588
Fuck this shit, I'm gonna go reread Homeless Mutant again!
Have fun with your waifu collectathon boys. By the time we get back, I'm sure Shinji will be tongue fucking the Queen of England while Mordred watches to assure dominance.
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>>4767614
Ask him if he made himself useful by summoning his crew too
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>>4767622
So she’s your waifu huh?
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>>4767622
I hope we meet and the tsundere brother.
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You guys have never successfully guessed my nationality, and I find that funny.

>>4767622
Man, the Argo is just going to bloat the hell out of the character list.
Unless...
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>>4767634
Hopefully not Greek
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>>4767634
With Orochi dead wouldn't the Argo crew just leave?
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>>4767634
What do you mean? It's obvious you're a Britbong.
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>>4767639
Manaka is still a threat, boat keeps providing energy. Only the summoning requires a threat anyway

>>4767634
Probably some sort of britbongistani due to your regular consumption of dr. benis
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>>4767641
What makes you say that?
>>4767638
Why Greek?
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>>4767634
South African?
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>>4767644
No clue, I'm 100% Anglo
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>>4767644
Your active hours fit with a slightly weird yuro schedule, or extremely weird amerimutt. You've said some things that made me inclined to believe you're living in the anglosphere. And you were awfully eager for Mordred's New British Empire to reclaim the lost colonies.

I suppose South Africa also fits, but I still believe you're a britbong.
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>>4767653
Interesting.
I just realized I was going to try to use this arc as a way to introduce Second Assassin, but I guess that'll have to wait.
Again.
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>>4767658
I'm really starting to doubt it's Li Shuwen now, I feel like he wouldn't miss the chance for battle
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>>4767658
why japan
why fat nek
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>>4767658
Second Assassin's Presence Concealment is so strong that he concealed himself from the plot.
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>>4767661
Honestly Assassins would be much more successful if they followed the same approach of not appearing at all until the very end.
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>>4767658
Might be a tad too late for anyone to care. Since we already killed the superboss.
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>>4767667
I'm kinda curious. And we still don't know who massacred those kids in that warehouse.
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>>4767665
I think Apocrypha had something like that stated, Assassins are OP if used how they're intended to, stealth and master killing
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>>4767670
No, the best way to use your Assassin class Servant is as a Gate Guard.
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>>4767634
100% a spaniard
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Come on second assassin has to be Li. We really need to finish out CMA and he's the only way. More martial arts techs from other heroes can't be learned in a respectable length of time.

Speaking of martial artist, what happened to snake style teacher after he was released from Manaka? Hell what happened to the rest of the monks for that matter?
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>>4767696
>after he was released from Manaka? Hell what happened to the rest of the monks for that matter?
Why do you think they were released from Manaka?
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>>4767696
Recaptured and put back in Gay Baby Jail, as far as you know.
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>>4767634
Pretty sure you're from North America considering your schedule, likely from Canada as you don't have a gut hatred of Monarchy as Americans do
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>>4767696
>and he's the only way.
It's easier to just go to Cat Spirit Village and hang out with Master Panda.
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>We really need to finish out CMA and he's the only way.
Technically, you can just look for TATARI and take Miyako with you and she becomes as skilled as Li.
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Shouldn't we give Shiki a servant?
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>>4767710
Shiki doesn't have magic circuits.
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>>4767492
Zangetsu

Shinji just keeps adopting daughters.
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>>4767714
It's heavily implied he does, average Magus insta die if they make a contract with Len, Shiki didn't, also he has Mystic Eyes and Mystic Eyes are a mutation of magic circuits
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So is all this daughter adopting a long term investment in our future children so one day our sons can have monstergirl sisterwives of their own?
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>>4767724
Shinji is cursed to only bear daughters
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>>4767721
I think those specific MeoDP like Shiki and R.Shiki can be thought of as mutations of Pure Eyes, making them a psychic channel thing. But he prob does have Magic Circuits, just not eye ones.

I am not 100%.
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>>4767721
Len is a good point, yes. I guess I'll go with I dunno.

>>4767724
It would be nice, I'm beginning to think we'll never, ever have a son.
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>>4767724
Well it's inevitable that we're gonna bone our little sister and that we become apart of the new British Monarchy so... yeah, seems like it'd be going that way
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>>4767728
We will only adopt daughters and only have biological sons
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>>4767732
Technically, Alitheia is our biological daughter. We've already failed in that.
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>>4767736
Children born the regular way will be sons
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>>4767736
As biological as a magic sheepskin blood ritual can be.
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>>4767744
Do you wanna roll for whether your first-born child the regular way is a daughter or a son?
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>>4767749
Update when
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>>4767748
It was your blood.
She's very much your biological daughter.

>>4767750
Soon.
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>>4767748
I said biological, not natural.

>>4767749
Perhaps another day. I don't feel lucky right now.
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>>4767749
On one hand I actually want a son after 5 or 6 daughters but I feel like rolling is the only fair way to deal with this
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>>4767749
Rolling in advance is cheating.
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"Actually, I don't think this little snake has anything at all to do with Zolgen. If anything, it's something related to Orochi, who at the end of the day was just another victim in all of this himself." Honestly, while Orochi was a total jackass who probably would've tried to destroy the planet or at least the country or something, it didn't really feel... that personal? Like sure, he inherited some of Zouken's grudge for you and tried to kill you because of it, but you can't really hate him considering that he got tricked into being used as nothing more than a puppet for your worm of a grandfather. Well, ex-worm. Now he's just a pile of ash, while Orochi has somewhat managed to live on through this... tiny snake. It's obviously just a baby right now though. Could it have been some form of reincarnation as a result of destroying him entirely? A rebirth through fire, of sorts?

You put the small creature in the palm of your hand and it begins to curl around your index finger, no longer squirming for freedom. "Well, if you're sure that it's got nothing to do with him, I... suppose it's kind of... cute?" The small albino snake continues to writhe around your index finger, it's surprisingly strong for its size, but it's not like it has any sort of true supernatural strength. It's just a harmless child right now, yet it does very much have a fledgling spark of divinity within it. You can tell that now that you've taken a closer look at it.

"Right. I guess I might ask Shuten or Tamamo about it when we get back home, they ought to know more about it." You gently place the snake in one of your pockets, it squirms a little in alarm before it settles and seems to fall asleep in the embrace of your suit pocket. What an odd creature. "I guess if it's actually a sapient being, I may well end up adopting it too. It's pretty obviously a child without any of the memories of Yamata-no-Orochi, and I'd feel bad if I just left it to its fate." Something about the sins of the father, you suppose it would especially apply to somebody like you, considering Byakuya and especially Zouken. You can't judge this creature just because of what its father did.

"That's... fine, I suppose, Onii-chan." Sakura has a somewhat complicated expression on her face. Suddenly, the whole structure begins to shake for a few moments before it stops, and Sakura almost loses her balance until you catch her and pull her up. "W-what was that?" She clings onto you in fear.
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Gilgamesh takes a step forwards as he looks around the crumbling temple. "It seems that this place is losing its integrity, I doubt we have more than about fifteen minutes before this whole twisted temple is disassembled and scattered to the furthest reaches of Imaginary Number Space. If you have anything left in this place you want to do, I suggest you do it quickly, Outsider." Gilgamesh looks at the damage done to the summoning chambers, curiosity in his eyes as he surveys the room. Clearly, he's at least somewhat impressed by what Zolgen managed to accomplish. He's especially impressed by the fact that the entire temple seems to have been snapped in half down the middle..

"Right, well, before we head back, I want to..."

>Heal Suzuka.
>Heal Paracelcus.
>Check out one of the other summoning chambers. (Earth, Wind or Water?)
>Write-in...
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>>4767771
Heal Suzuka.
>Heal Paracelcus.
>Check out one of the other summoning chambers. Water.
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>>4767771
>Kiss Sakura, we need to celebrate the end of the nightmare
>Heal Suzuka.
>Heal Paracelcus.
>gtfo, Waver and Merlin are waiting.
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Well. Anyone want to summon? I remember Wind Chamber potentially summoning Quetz on a high roll. Maybe we can have Sakura or Vritra summon, they have power to spare.

Can Vritra be a Master?
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Summon Scathach.
QM said this is the best chance we have.
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>>4767776
Altrouge could make a summoning circle herself. We can certainly do it with all the Casters in our faction. We don't need to stay here, not when we have so many things to do back home.

>>4767778
Scathach is alive, she cannot be summoned right now. We can ask Para to take us back here after we've figured out how to do it.
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Couldn't we use catalysts with the summoning circles? Ciel has the perfect catalyst for based Longinus for example, QM said we can potentially summon Scathach here though don’t know how unless Suzuka big brains it
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>>4767781
>"It seems that this place is losing its integrity, I doubt we have more than about fifteen minutes before this whole twisted temple is disassembled and scattered to the furthest reaches of Imaginary Number Space. If you have anything left in this place you want to do, I suggest you do it quickly, Outsider."
We have no reason to get back here, and its crumbling.
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>>4767783
We can try to cobble together a ritual based on Runes and a custom chant I guess?
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>>4767771
>Heal Suzuka.
>Heal Paracelcus
>Check out one of the other summoning chambers: Wind
I want Quetz
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>>4767783
Longinus would be lost then right? A pure anti God weapon is nice but I'm sure someone more divine would be summoned. Think I'll support this
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>>4767771
>>Heal Suzuka.
>>Heal Paracelcus.
>>Ask them both if they can make an entrance to the Land of Shadows so we can nab Scathach
QM said this is our best chance, may as well try it and deal with regular summons later
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>>4767786
By "here", I meant Imaginary Number Space. That's what WhatIs said would be helpful in summoning Scathach. There's nothing special about grandpa's structure, specifically. Why not do it when perfectly prepared and with no time pressure?
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>>4767771
>>Write-in...
Use truth to create a giant "3", then throw it into Imaginary Number Space just to see what happens.
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>>4767771
>Heal Suzuka.
>Heal Paracelcus.
>Leave
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>>4767788
Touko has primordial runes on her and Shirou has Gae Bolg Alternative, we can use both of these as catalysts
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>>4767793
Because we're here right now?
There's no reason not to try.
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>>4767771
>>Heal Suzuka.
>>Heal Paracelcus.
>>Check out one of the other summoning chambers. Earth
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>>4767791
Probably not, Avalon wasn't lost when Artoria was summoned, best case scenario, we summon Longinus with his Lance, worst case, he gets summoned with no Lance
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>>4767802
Time, things to do, crumbling structure, summoning circles that were not designed to pull someone alive. We can certainly succeed when prepared, why the hurry?
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>>4767805
Such a strong catalyst, imagine the power. Who in our party would be able to handle them as a servant?
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>>4767771
>>4767804
No wait, blanked out for a moment just heal Suzuka and Paracelcus, then leave
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>>4767812
Probably the immortal nun with infinite mana
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We do have the Casters who can easily whip up something similar, why not heal the two and ask Para if there is anything special about this place we might not know about. Remember his Sword lets you instantly cast rituals, including potentially servant summons?

Why rely on scuffed element rate up gacha?

Alternatively we could let Tiamat out for a chat
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>>4767808
Gil said that if we want to do something, do it now. Not "We have to leave now!"
I assume we have some time.
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>>4767771
>>Heal Suzuka.
>>Heal Paracelcus.
>>Ask them both if they can make an entrance to the Land of Shadows so we can nab Scathach
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>>4767823
Yeah that's what i'm saying, maybe Gil likes us enough that he can allow us to use something as a catalyst so we can get a specific servant
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>>4767792
Support
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Can't we do land of shadows anywhere? Let's do that later while here we can get a specific type of servant
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>Heal Suzuka.
>Heal Paracelcus
>Check out one of the other summoning chambers: Wind

It's either Wind for Quetz or trying for a Hokusai with Water imo. Scathatch doesn't seem to have elemental preference, except if you take the part where the Gae Bolg is supposed to be thrown with your toes after having it float down a river.

>>4767812
You mean who would be able to supply them with power? Sakura or Vritra basically.

I want to see if we can summon something good.
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>>4767823
>Why rely on scuffed element rate up gacha?
People can't resist the lure of the gacha.

>>4767824
Waver and Merlin are waiting. Possibly Orochi's last Servants, possibly Angra Mainyu who dashed when we fixed clae. Manaka may have pulled another surprise, something may have exploded in the city. And we still need to save Monica, Bazett and Cu.

Is there any reason we have to try to pull Scathach right now, with no preparation, in the middle of a crumbling structure, with half-busted summoning circles, and without all of our casters with us to assist? Other than impatience?
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>>4767832
QM said this is our best chance to get Scathach, Shirou, Gilgamesh, Para and Suzuka can more or less get us any servant we want later, Scathach is an anomaly that can't be regularly summoned as she's still alive
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>>4767771
>>4767792
Support

I want a new a waifu
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>>4767832
WhatIs said that we have a better chance in Imaginary Numbers Space, that's what triggered this.
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>>4767833
Yeah okay, I forgot to link.

>>4767823
If you make one to to ask Para to just whip up some Summonings with his Sword for Vritra, due to her having infinite CF support, or Sakura, due to her super magical energy, I'd vote for it.

If we rely on Imaginary Number Space, we should try for weird Servants or actual beings that probably aren't something we can summon normally.
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>>4767792
Support
Forget
>>4767773


We'll summon with longinus when we get back
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>>4767836
See, you said we can do it later, but I don't believe you.
You're telling me not to try something, on the off chance maybe we'll do it later. What if we just don't get around to it?
I'll take my chances.
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>>4767833
Gae Bolg was carved from the bones of the Curriud, a sea monster.
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>>4767845
>but I don't believe you.
Fucking why? War's over next week, we'll have all the time in the world to do whatever. There is nothing, nothing at all suggesting this is a use-it-or-lose-it opportunity.
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>>4767846
The Gae Bolg was a Fish Stick that was used to defeat Ferdiad, who had unbreakable skin, by shoving it up his ass.
Fantastic storytelling.
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>>4767839
That and Scathach is also a good person to have for our development, QM said that if we trained with Alcides we'd get noticeably stronger, Scathach's whole thing is back breaking training to create warriors and sleeping with the ones that survive, she’s a good alternative to Li Shuwen who could better teach us Bajiquan
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>>4767771
>Heal Para and Suzuka
>Ask Para if there is anything we should know about this space if we were to try and summon something here, or something leftover from ELIXIR etc.
>See if Para needs a contract immediately due to his EX Mana stat, if he does, offer Sakura due to her near limitless mana
>After Para is juiced up, ask if he can use the Sword of Paracelsus to instantly lay down a summoning ritual circle with properties allowing it to summon even irregular existences from within INS
>Suzuka can help with gigabrain as she never actually used it on Orochi so she's still fine

>next update
>argue about what we aim for if this works, where to source catalyst etc. or just gachabrain
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>>4767771
Calling in 30?
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>>4767856
This wins. Write update please
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>>4767849
Ferdiad is a gay fish.

If you can bear another update tonight leaving the cliffhanger for today being argue over what you try and summon would ensure a few 100 posts of shit and cum for you to wake up to.
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>>4767856
>>4767771
Supporting
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>>4767855
I forgot about that yeah good point. Tbh i just want her to fight cu alter and not job this time.
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For obvious catalysts, if we don't want to bother Gil and I don't, is Longinus, the Vajra for Raicow, Chiyome for more ninja, Obeitheion for maybe some kind of Artoria (maybe we can finally get Lalter?), Paracelsus for...Da Vinci, if they met? I don't remember, Nobu for someone of her Era, probably Okita or Kenshin(Kagetora), Medusa for uh...Perseus? Alcides for a lot of people but maybe Chiron?
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>>4767868
We could also ask Medea to grab Achilles's lance and command seal summon her to us.
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>>4767868
Raikou is likely already summoned
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>>4767856
Looks like you may have been a little late in laying down your vote suggestion.
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>>4767868
Being very brave, we could use snake daughter to try summoning Ibuki.

Alcides probably has something to summon Atalanta with.

Would Sakura serve as a catalyst for Sumer shit (who even is left) or sakurafaces?

We could draw the entire runic alphabet up as a catalyst for Bryn, I guess.

We could maaaybe try summoning actual Solomon due to very similarly having received a revelation from God after God asked us what we want?

We could try summoning Li Shuwen from our own Bajiquan through some kind of ritual fuckery?
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>>4767880
>Atalanta
She's an argonaut, she's already been summoned.
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>>4767868
>Paracelsus for...Da Vinci
You know, it's funny, but Da Vinci also met Zolgen in life.
Considers him to be an excellent magus too.
Which makes it even funnier that he was only a Brand.
He MUST have just abandoned that whole ranking system of the Clocktower.
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>>4767872
Dagger* but ye

>>4767868
King's Order contains a fair few catalysts.

The Stymphalian birds were once Ares' which might allow for Altera, or an Amazon.

Apples might get Atalante, but she comes with the Argo so that's a bit pointless.

Hydra poisoned arrows are what killed Chiron, so he's very much a possibility. Might also get Hydra (female) for the snake collection.

A lot of greekoid stuff, and even ROMA draws from Heracles' legend. You could get Nero or Orion even due to the loose connection to the Nemean Lion Pelt, as Nero wrestled Lions to emulate Herc, Orion smushed phtasmals with his fists to avoid their reject humanity concepts that cockblocked weapons.

Kerberos might get something very interesting from the underworld.

Use Obeithion for HOPE

>>4767878
busy morning unfortunately.

>>4767887
Permanent genin
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>>4767890
inb4 Caster Artoria because Marmyadose was Herc's sword in legend
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So what's winning?
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>>4767899
You are
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>>4767899
>>4767860


>>4767856


>>4767774


>>4767789


>>4767794


>>4767796
>>4767819


>>4767792
>>4767830
>>4767839
>>4767843
>>4767827

Try to summon Shishou wins.
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>>4767899
>Heal Suzuka and Para
All but one voted for those two.

>+Water
>>4767773

>+Wind
>>4767789

>+Ask them if they can nab Scathach
>>4767792
>>4767827
>>4767830
>>4767839
>>4767843

>+Just leave
>>4767774 (also, kiss Sakura)
>>4767796
>>4767819

>+Nigger's write-in
>>4767856
>>4767860

>Troll write-in
>>4767794

Unsurprisingly, Scathach wins currently.
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Rin is gonna be so excited when we introduce her to her new teacher, should make up for the whole "friend turning into an Oni" thing
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>>4767912
I hope he doesn't need a contract right away so we don't need to stab him to give him to her.
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Enjoy accidentally getting Medbee without a proper Shishou catalyst as her element would also be water considering her mastery of fluids
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>>4767916
So, do people like her as a joke?
Because she's completely unlikable, and not even that hot.
I really don't get it.
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>Scathach
Wasn't expecting this, but uh... Alright, lemme write.
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>>4767919
Eternally regenerating hymen on a gigastacy slut is myguess
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>>4767919
People love the unironically evil slut who would cuck you in an instant trope.
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>>4767921
>Wasn't expecting this
Oh, come on, you dangled heroin in front of a drug addict. What else did you expect?

>>4767919
Wait, there are people who actually like her?
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>>4767927
>Wait, there are people who actually like her?
Fairly certain she's Nasu's favourite and he whaled for her.
If you needed another reason to hate Nasu.
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>>4767933
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>>4767933
...god, just when I thought I couldn't hate him more.
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>>4767927
I like her she's fun
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>>4767936
At least we can trust Takeuchi to simp for Saber and Saber accessories for eternity.
And also never draw a different pose.
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>>4767938
Honestly, she's only fun in the context of FGO, where all the Servants have their good qualities turned up to 11 and have most of their negative qualities ignored. Like with Ishtar possessing Rin and being an OK person.
Medb in an actual grail war would be insufferable.
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Would telling Scath that Cu is around but possessed/controlled be a good bait for her, if we can get an opening?
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>>4767927
I sort of like her because she's drawn by the amagami dude.
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>>4767957
The prospect of fighting him would be pretty exciting to her yes
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>>4767957
I mean, she's been alone in there for Centuries.
She'd probably want to fuck him. And try to kill him after.
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1 more update?
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>>4767955
Interlude
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>>4767989
yis.
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>>4767994
Ourobora isn't going to be very bright.
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>>4768021
Why and I guess as long as she's hot
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>>4768022
Well, I suppose if you get her a good enough education, maybe?
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>>4768021
We should've thought of that before we decided to adopt a snek with subpar genetics.
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>>4768025
We can afford the best private tutors
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>>4768025
That is to say that if you give her a good enough teacher, she won't be dumb, nothing to do with her attractiveness.
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>>4768029
We should summon Chiron then, the best teacher across history.
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Any servant we have know of or has a link to the library of Alexandria?
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Genuinely interesting in how anons think poopchute of all people will answer a summons. Gil shouldn't have Primordial Runes just laying around in the GoB.

Her sister is hanging around under nyarly's thumb though so she does have two neat fights ahead of her against deified Cu and Aife

>>4768035
DUDE once we get him out of GBJ
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>>4768032
Horsecock on display in the classroom
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Who's dude?
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>>4768036
>poopchute
Took me a minute to get it. And it's all WhatIs's fault, anons would have never thought to go after Scathach now if he hadn't mentioned it.

>>4768039
picrel
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>>4768039
Iskandar.
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>>4768042
Thanks, he's a bro. Sorry autist remember I filtered you.
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>>4768041
There's something deeply unnerving about Iskandar in this picture.
He looks weirdly... Shrek-like.
I can't place it.
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>>4768039
ALELALELALELELELELELELELELELELELEE
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While looking for a .gif to make into that webm google showed me something truly terrifying. This tops even Jobberman

https://tmfatefanon.fandom.com/wiki/Avenger_(Fate/Grand_Order_-_Harry_Potter_Alter)
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>>4768048
A whole army of musou game mooks.
Truly a terrifying Noble Phantasm.
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>>4768052
>That link name
Nope, not clicking that.
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>>4768052
I'm fucking dead.
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>>4768059
Your OC has big shoes to fill unfortunately.
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>>4768059
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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I skipped it a bit and the best part is that he's a jannie of all things
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>>4768060
There's something deeply hilarious about Astolfo being the #1 popular article on this wiki.
I think this is literally just gay people getting lost as they look him up.
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>>4768057
Don’t worry it’s really just Lif from Fire Emblem Heroes who is Alfonse from the future and also practically the Fire Emblem equivalent of EMIYA. Pic related
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>>4768066
We're gonna get an abomination from the tm fanwiki from this INS gacha aren't we?
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>>4768069
It's funny because I just clicked random page and I got a Susanoo no Mikoto.
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>>4768067
I'm not sure I understand, but I'm sure I don't want to understand.

>>4768069
I'd say this might actually work as discouragement for future gachafagging, but I know better.
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>>4768073
I rolled Bedi

safe from the curse
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bruh

>Demonic Surge is a Noble Phantasm which is very similar to the Mana Burst Personal Skill that a lot of servants, including Lucifer, posssess, but it's on a much larger scale. When Lucifer expells his mana using Demonic Surge, it has the ability to cause fatal wounds against powerful opponents completely destroy powerful shields, barriers, and fortresses, and to topple entire mountain ranges. The only ones who can create shields who can withstand this ability are Merlin, Odin, and Taliesin.
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>>4768073
>>4768075
I got Gawain. I think I’m safe
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>>4768075
It's no fun if we don't have at least some curses going on.
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>>4768080
Seibah Schizophrenia
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>>4768080
How's this then?
https://tmfatefanon.fandom.com/wiki/Assassin_(Fate/user_~_Rukiryo)
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>Fate/Great Order (フェイト/ グレート オーダー, Feito/ gurēto ōdā) is an RPG game idea with a plot plot that take place ini any historical event and legends. It also remake of Fate/Grand Order with new plot.

Bless
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>>4768084
Assassin of KFC
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https://tmfatefanon.fandom.com/wiki/Classless_(Fate/Axiom_~_Marx)
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>>4768092
Hitler-chan has a rival
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Update when
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Surely the fragments of a supercomputer created by a god will be enough of a catalyst to call forth Terry A. Davis from the future pbuh
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"Alright, first off, everyone, that over there is Vritra. She was Orochi's Lancer, but I managed to convince her to come over to my side and help me to distract Orochi long enough for you all to make your way here when we managed to deactivate the time dilation." You don't think you would've ever been able to defeat Orochi if he retained the power of ELIXIR throughout the battle. For one thing, Suzuka would've definitely been killed by the time you finished fighting Orochi within Vritra's Reality Marble like world.

"Time Dilation?" Sakura looks at you in confusion, not expecting you to suddenly bring up such a strange sounding thing, to Sakura, you've only been gone a few minutes, after all, and before this point, she clearly hadn't actually paid much attention to the incredibly tall woman that is Vritra, who is currently awkwardly standing around, trying to look relatively inconspicuous despite towering over everyone else in the room.

"Ah, right, time was flowing at a rate of one thousand seconds to every second that passed on the outside world, obviously, I had to fix this by disabling and destroying Zolgen's primary weapon, a ginormous Photonic Crystal Supercomputer called ELIXIR. This weapon was capable of both teleporting people in and out of this place, as well as distorting time to move far faster within this place, not to mention that it was apparently capable of simply deleting whatever Zolgen wanted, but thanks to..." You walk over to the fox-eared woman and help her to her feet. "Thanks to Suzuka... a Servant that I summoned, the system was disabled long enough for it to be destroyed." As you help Suzuka up, you also quickly use your truth healing on her. You've currently found yourself contracted to no less than five Servants in total, so your magical energy reserves aren't doing... great right now, the great density of magical energy in the air means you're currently doing fine, but you don't think you'll be able to do battle like this outside of somewhere like where you are right now. You'll definitely need to either think about giving one of your Servants away, or discussing a solution with the many Casters you've got access to now. When you finish healing Suzuka's wounds, earning an inspired looking gaze from the girl, she must've been almost completely drained considering that under normal circumstances, she would've been capable of healing herself through her Determination of Self.
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Still, with Suzuka healed, you head over to Paracelcus without waiting for her to say anything, you're very much on a time limit here, and you want to make sure that everyone is safe before you do anything else or spend time talking to everyone else. "Oh, you're back again, descendant of Makiri. I saw you kill him... that was, impressive, but it felt like a waste, seeing Zolgen go out like that. He has truly fallen far from the idealist he once was. The Zolgen who I knew would never have thought of sacrificing so much to save so little." You somehow doubt that, but you aren't about to argue with Paracelcus, instead, you kneel down and heal him of any lasting effects he might've had on his body still.

You don't talk much until you're certain that you've finished healing him, when Paracelcus gets up, you know that he's very much fine now. "Yes, my ancestor was once a good person, but later in life, he became a man... no, a monster beyond redemption, he would happily condemn a child to horrifying torture and ... you're aware of his Crest Worms, I take it?" You reveal to Paracelcus the extent of Zouken's evil, or at least imply it, and Paracelcus immediately understands exactly what you're talking about, and frowns deeply at the actions the man who he once considered a friend and fellow idealist ended up taking.

"What a shame..." Is all that Paracelcus can say as he walks to introduce himself to the rest of your allies. But before he can, you stop him as he walks past Suzuka.

"Hold on, Paracelcus, you still have your Noble Phantasm, right? Your sword?" You've been wondering for a while whether he still actually has the blade, you would hope so, but you can never be too sure to ask.

"I... did not lose it when my connection to ELIXIR was severed, and I did manage to keep all of the advancements I managed to make in my own magecraft while I was hooked into the system as well, why?" Paracelcus seems slightly confused at being asked about his Noble Phantasm.

"Well, I was wondering if you could use it to open up a portal to a place that we should be able to reach through Imaginary Number Space." While you're here, there's not really any danger in asking something you've been wondering.

"Are you sure? While I could certainly use it to open up such a portal, finding a specific location within Imaginary Number Space... should be a nearly impossible endeavor, even for one such as myself. It would be different if I had access to ELIXIR still, but that required the power of a God to properly get up and running so-" You cut him off, you've got just the thing to find your target, the place that contains a woman who may very well be willing to help, if you say the right things to her, the Land of Shadows.

"No, there's somebody else that can help us, actually. Suzuka!" You call to the girl standing near to you, and she quickly stands at attention.
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"Yes, Darling~?" You suppress a grimace at being referred to with such an affectionate name in earshot of... well, everyone, but you do your best to ignore it now. You'll just tell Sakura it's a quirk of Suzuka's summoning that she quickly grows attached to whoever ends up summoning her, as part of her nature... or something. It's not exactly far from the truth.

"Can you activate Trichiliocosm for me? Only for a few moments, I want you to help Paracelcus and I find something, and that blade is our best bet at finding what we're looking for." You earnestly request the aid of your newest Servant.

"If it's only for a few moments, I suppose it should be fine, but... what are you looking for?" Suzuka seems curious as to just what it is that you could be seeking out that would require her blade, or rather, the intelligence and wisdom she gains from her blades.

"A place called the Land of Shadows. It's cut off from normal reality, yet it should theoretically be possible for us to reach it from here, which is why I'm wondering if with your ability to perceive things through your blade, if it'll be possible for you to find it."

"Well, I suppose it should be, though we're going to have to do this quickly, we've only got... about twelve and a half minutes before this place dissolves entirely." You and Paracelcus both nod, getting trapped in Imaginary Number Space is pretty awful, and a pretty certain way to be erased from existing if you aren't careful. Most people if they are dumped inside Imaginary Number Space will quickly find themselves incapable of continuing to exist within it. Suzuka draws her steel blade and allows an unseeable sunlight to glint off of it... somehow. You're pretty sure that there's no sun here, but whatever.

"Wait, we're doing this... now?!" You are nearly taken aback by just how much haste Suzuka is acting with here. You suppose it might have something to do with the temporary nature of Blessing of Wisdom making it so the more intelligent Suzuka feels as if she needs to act with greater haste than normal. She's staring intently into the reflection of her blade.

"That's right! Now... Paracelcus, was it? Grab my shoulder, I've found the place that I think Darling is talking about!" It's... been barely 4 seconds! She's already managed to find the Land of Shadows? There's no doubt about it, Suzuka as she is right now really is somebody with processing power at least equal to the Moon Cell, capable of finding a world separate from the rest of the world in merely a few seconds with her abilities. Paracelcus does as he is bid, and quickly grabs onto her shoulder, wherein Suzuka shares the information he requires to him in but an instant.

With that information, the man suddenly kneels onto the floor and carves a magic circle onto the floor with his Noble Phantasm, the Sword of Paracelcus, before plunging it directly into the ground, causing a tall black portal to form just above it.
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You're left speechless by the two Servant's tremendous synergy. Suzuka and Paracelcus working together just managed to create a functioning opening to the Land of Shadows. You almost take a step into the portal immediately, but you are stopped by a hand on your shoulder. "Onii-chan... where are you going now?"

"Nowhere for long, Sakura." You reassure the girl by gently stroking her hair. "It's just, if my calculations are correct, through this portal should be a powerful ally willing to lend us assistance, and all we need to do is ask her. Still, it's dangerous, so I want you to stay here. Only send somebody else in if I don't return after five minutes." You're running on very limited time here, so you can't spend much time explaining yourself to Sakura, as much as you would like to. "Just... trust me, this will work out fine, my plans always work out fine, don't they?" You give her a confident smile, even if you aren't exactly feeling as confident as you're trying to project. Taking a step straight into the Land of Shadows is something that some people would consider... foolish.

"Alright, but... don't get hurt, please?" Sakura looks you in the eyes, and you feel a little bit guilty as she makes such an innocent request, your only possible response to her request is to tightly hug her once again.

"I won't, but... I need to hurry up, alright?" You hug her for fifteen more seconds before you turn back towards the portal, take a deep breath, and step through it.

Upon stepping through the portal, the first thing you notice is the darkness, which soon fades away to show you a world that isn't exactly that much brighter. A forest that seems to have been perpetually caught in autumn, you are surrounded by dying trees and grass. Not actually dead, but simply in the process of dying. You take a step, and then another step, but before you can take a third step...

A long red spear pierces the floor right in front of you, sinking deep into the ground and causing you to jump backwards in surprise. "Who are you? What have you come to the Land of Shadows for, and more importantly, how have you come here? Answer me, and I might allow you to live." Ah, that's not a very nice welcoming you're being given. You would've thought that Scáthach would've been more open to a visitor, considering her centuries of isolation.

>"I'm Shinji Makiri, I've come for your help, and I came here through having a portal opened up here in Imaginary Number Space."
>"Scáthach! I'm here to bargain!"
>"Who am I? I'm the man who can kill you, if you want."
>"I'm here to offer you a chance to be free of the Land of Shadows."
>"I heard you offer training, would you mind if I hired you as a tag-along tutor?"
>Write-in...
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>>4768171
I'm Shinji Makiri, I've come for your help, and I came here through having a portal opened up here in Imaginary Number Space."
>"Scáthach! I'm here to bargain!"
>"Who am I? I'm the man who can kill you, if you want."
>"I'm here to offer you a chance to be free of the Land of Shadows."
>"I heard you offer training, would you mind if I hired you as a tag-along tutor?"
>Write-in...
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>>4768176
You just copied the entire voting prompt.
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Probably worth mentioning her sister is currently being held hostage by an Outer God and Setanta is also under the yoke of a soon to be Outer God, and we can offer her Death as a reward if she assists us in her forte of godslaying
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>>4768183
Assuming this is the last for this evening?

>>4768186
Death and/or new students
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>>4768171
>>"I'm Shinji Makiri, I've come for your help, and I came here through having a portal opened up here in Imaginary Number Space."
>>"I heard you offer training, would you mind if I hired you as a tag-along tutor?"
>>Write-in...
>"Would you be interested in helping me discipline a stray dog as well?"
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>>4768186
I mean, does she have any reason to be here? Is she holding something back?
Even if we didn't tell her we could kill her, wouldn't she want to bail as soon as she could?
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>>4768189
Yes, this is the last for this evening.
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>>4768191
She didn't choose to be stuck here, her deeds made her more of a concept so she can't die as a human anymore, and just persists in a purgatory realm indefinitely
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I think we should say something like
>Your rowdy student has gone feral and is about to cause a ruckus on the mortal world soon, thought you'd be interested in teaching him some manners again
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Fun fact, a normal person would've died instantly just from being within the Land of Shadows. Good thing for you that you're you.
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>>4768212
What part of us? Being an outsider?
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>>4768212
Doesn't Scathach have the ability to keep people alive in the land of shadows if she so chooses or am I misremembering her NP
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>>4768214
I'm pretty sure that she can only choose whether or not she sucks them in or not. Anybody inside is basically screwed and will instantly die.
You may have forgotten this before entering, so...
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>>4768171
>"Scáthach! I'm here to bargain!"
>A stray dog of yours has gone feral and is about to cause a ruckus on the mortal world, I thought you'd be interested in teaching him some manners again?
>He, as well as your sister are currently under the control of Outer Gods, or soon to be Outer Gods, if you were also after some more interesting prey. Surely lingering in this world of limbo for eternity must be tiresome?
>I also personally seek your tutelage, if I were able to prove myself worthy; however I do not have the time available currently as I am dealing with various time sensitive threats in the mortal world
>and, if the prospect of seeing and fighting Setanta again does not appease you enough, I, using my unique conceptual magecraft can offer you a True Death, although I know you would prefer to die fighting.
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>>4768220
The fact that Shinji reached this point at all would have really perked her interest. Gate of Skye is enough to kill even higher end servants instantly.
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>Everything should have faded away at the end of the many passing months and years, but in the middle of my memories that is preserved in a condition that is intentionally kept obscure, one person... There is only one person, a man with his figure displayed clearly to me even up to now.

>Red eyes———

>His pair of eyes. Only in the time where that radiance passes by my mind, what's inside this chest calms down.

>Warmth dwells within myself, which is immutable for eternity.

>A heart wishing for reunion?

>That, is not the way it is. That I can affirm.

>If then, what is it there? To say firmly, as thus, to that man———

>———I want you to kill.

>I want death as a person.


Her greatest wish is for Cú to kill her.
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>>4768221
Maybe reword it to something like "I know you're clamoring for a True Death, I promise to kill you myself after I've throughly surpassed and defeated you if you so choose" since it fits into her character to want to train someone who can kill her
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>>4768228
She might get it or at least get a greater fight from him considering that Cu seems to have Odin powers
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>>4768231
good point actually. but i'm not sure we should try cucking her love for cu though, we're requesting tutelage and saying we have the ability to, I'm sure she can put two and two together seeing as we're offering death but respecting her wish to die fighting
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You know, you could also just offer to make her mortal.
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>>4768253
Would she cop out like that?

I always gathered that she wanted someone to surpass her properly. If she was mortal Cu could just Gae Bolg her and that'd be it
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>>4768253
What if we use HYPER REALITY
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>>4768256
Well, she wasn't always completely unkillable, and actually wanted somebody to be able to kill her before she reached that point.
Cu was too late.
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>>4768253
So the concept of mortality would be enough?
Fighting when you know you can't die probably loses all the fun.
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>>4768262
You're right actually, there's one very specific line

>I want death as a person
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>>4768247
>but i'm not sure we should try cucking
A little late for that don’t you think? And even then, Cu is still her prized student and I'm not too sure Cu shares her feelings. He sleeps around yeah and he respects/is scared of her but he's only loyal to his wife in that respect, we're still offering her a chance to fight him once more and kill her for good. Showing that we're sure of our ability to kill her will pique her interests further.
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>>4768171
changing >>4768221

to

>"Scáthach! I'm here to bargain!"
>A stray dog of yours has gone feral and is about to cause a ruckus on the mortal world, I thought you'd be interested in teaching him some manners again?
>He, as well as your sister are currently under the control of Outer Gods, or soon to be Outer Gods, if you were also after some more interesting prey. Surely lingering in this world of limbo for eternity must be tiresome?
>I also personally seek your tutelage, if I were able to prove myself worthy; however I do not have the time available currently as I am dealing with various time sensitive threats in the mortal world
>and, if the prospect of seeing and fighting Setanta again does not appease you enough, I, using my unique conceptual magecraft can offer you a True Death, although I know you would prefer to die fighting, so why not allowing me to impose the concept of Mortality upon you? allowing you to find a death that you could be content with
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She doesn't just specifically want to die, she wants to die in battle, she started training after Cu started surpassing her because she's still a warrior felt a sort of rivalry with Cu
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>>4768171
Supporting this>>4768273
That covers everything.
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>>4768183
And what's wrong with that?
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>>4768280
You copied the blank
>Write-in...
option.
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>>4768283
Well ignore that autist
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>>4768171
>>4768273
Support
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>>4768273
>>4768171
That wolf next to him is so fucking cute dude, also support
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>>4768287
Careful, otherwise I might just ignore your entire vote.
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>>4768294
Seriously? Man I'm on my phone the whole time, this shit isn't easier.
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>>4768297
It's OK, it's just a bit odd is all.
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>>4768298
? I meant my autism. It's sometimes hard to copy all and get everything I want
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>>4768171
>>4768273
Support.
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I didn't mean to be an ass Whatis. I'm sorry
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>>4768306
Don't worry about it, anon.
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>>4768309
I lost my parents in a dark alley but I found a new family here.
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>>4768311
Yes, I know that you're Batman.
It's really not difficult to figure out.
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>>4768311
Put your trip up batman
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>>4768313
Thanks for making this quest so enjoyable and not banning me. I live for this shit.
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>>4768314
You should know how I talk. Get used to it.
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Should we rest after we get out of here? We haven't had a good nights sleep for a whole week
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>>4768336
We need like a week nap to get ready for the fuck fest
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>>4768336
Lets give Abby the concept of Awakening and have her send Shinji to Dreamlands while he sleeps.

No escape from the ride
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>>4768336
>resting with all those women trying to prey on us
Good luck
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>>4768343
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>>4768356
It's a coinflip between multiple simultaneous attempts at sleep molestation and waking up in a cuddle pile.
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>>4768373
Naptime in Satsuki's RM so it's at most 1 layer of rape.

Unless Obeithion can give us access to Avalon or something
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>>4768356
this will end up working in our favor as they will end up fighting each other whenever they try to enter our room thus preventing us from getting molested in our sleep.
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Destroy all the Lostbelts, Shinji.
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>>4768380
But what happens when they realize they can't get what they want by fighting?
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>>4768385
See Carnival Moment for more info.
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>>4768385
they'll spend the whole night arguing about who gets to go in first
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Ciel is a catholic priest so she has experience molesting minors and getting away with it
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>>4768408
I wonder how long it would take Ciel to un-sphere herself
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>>4768408
Unfortunately, Shinji is 18 so this advantage is nullified.
Also, Ciel isn't a priest, she just uses being a Burial Agent as an excuse to cosplay as one.
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>>4768421
eh fuck it, you're a priest if you kill for the church who gives a shit, sucks that Ciel's conceptual advantage has worn off, luckily Mordred as King has Prima Nocta, so does Arc
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>>4768425
So does Gilgamesh.
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>>4768430
Will Ayaka survive getting doubleteamed by Gil and Enkidu?
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>>4768436
The better question is will Gil survive getting doubleteamed by Ayaka and Enkidu.
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>>4768436
Ayakabowl hasn't been talked about enough, its happening anon, EMIYA, Cu, Arthur and Enhance are gonna get one look at her and try to kill Gilgamesh and each other to get to her
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>>4768444
Rin dying alone or getting into a relationship with her future teacher?
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>>4768453
Sakura will be nice and gives her the same deal she'll give Rider.
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>>4768453
Rin is going to uncuck herself by fucking a physical copy of Shirou's wife.
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>>4768457
She's probably gonna get cucked again since Medea wants Shirou's wife's clone too
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>>4768457
pure lesbians are still virgins though
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>>4768464
While she won't lose her virginity, she will gain a spiritual victory over the woman who married her highschool crush.
>>4768457
I have a feeling Obei's going to get passed around a lot, Saberfaces are in high demand among the rampant bisexuals of type moon, and Shinji clearly isn't going to put out until he's certain that nobody's going to cry about it.
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>>4768472
>I have a feeling Obei's going to get passed around a lot
so is Shinji when you think about it
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>>4768457
You guys realize that fairy Saber is two weeks old. She also asked Shinji for help to find her identity. Having Rin go Bi on what's essentially a two week old is wrong. The kids was bad enough considering she doesn't have the experience to parse it. If this is Shinji's parenting I hope the adult women in his life can do better.
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>>4768476
Can we please not do the whole chronological age=apparent age joke again?
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>>4768476
Pretty sure these anons are just shit posting no need to be serious over it.
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Glad to see that we went for Scáthach.
>>4768171
Supporting >>4768273 since it covers pretty much everything that will make her interesting in helping us.
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>>4768482
Not really a joke when she literally broke down about not knowing what she is. Then Shinji pretty much volunteers to help her find herself and the first thing he did was have her kiss Rin. Like I said real bang up job helping a confused woman using a meme vote.
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>>4768521
if you read that update it was actually Rin spilling her spaghetti everywhere, Shinji said nothing but for Rin to give her as much of a magical boost as she could.

It was entirely Rin's doing
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>>4768273
>>4768171
+1
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If we end up getting our own Gáe Bolg from her it would mean that we got our Lancer qualification.
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>>4768171
>>4768273
Support. Let's get this over with.

>>4768336
We still need to confront Waver and Merlin, save Monica, Bazett and Cu and deal with anything else unexpected that might have happened while we weren't in the world. I just hope tomorrow is a day of rest and relaxation.
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>>4768580
We turn it into a Truth Lance

>>4768587
God told us to not bother with Monica, Bazett and Cu, Manaka and the Greater Grail are the true goal, Waver and Merlin might be enemies we need to defeat though, luckily, Waver is our friend and we have Iskandar
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>>4768591
He told us not to deal with them before grandpa. He mentioned nothing for after we burn him. Do you really want to leave them under Manaka's control forever?
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We should probably free them before going after Manaka directly, might be harder to nonlethal them when it's not 1 v our whole faction
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>>4768595
Also, Monica is one of the people we've known and cared for the longest and we supposedly care about Bazett and Cu as well. It'll be funny if we decide we can't be bothered to spend five minutes to save them right after we went to such lengths to save Scathatch.
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>>4768604
Arc can redeem her jobberdom by turning off her electromagnetism with Marble Phantasm and wrestle her to the ground for us to free
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>>4768606
Yep, I've been saying just that for a while now. Enkidu can find Bazett and facetank Gae Bulge too. We took out the secret superboss grandpa while 9/10 of our allies didn't do a thing. Saving these three will be a cakewalk in comparison.
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>>4768609
Should, maybe, but let's approach all of them with appropriate care.
Wouldn't want to get blindsided by a creative use of their powers or otherwise job like Gil when he's in cocky mode.
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>>4768649
Presence Detection means we can't be snuck up on with clae around, however Manaka having used him before also knows of this and will likely CS teleport or something to avoid it, or miraculously graft on EX Presence Concealment to work around it somehow
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>>4768273
>>4768171
Support

>>4768663
SF had a Pres Conceal EX Hassan, so its not unprecedented even without Sphere Boundary.
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>>4768663
I think Manaka is restricted in how much she can order them around. Her bounded field must not give her full freedom to act in the outside world, or she might not want to draw the jannies' attention and get nuked. She wouldn't have bothered with clunky contracts full of loopholes if she could micromanage them. Manaka also hasn't shown the ability to precisely modify them like that, I don't know why you'd expect she can do it.
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>>4768273
Support.

Making her mortal would suck, giving her mortality so she can die to wounds isn't.
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>>4768273
This is winning, I take?
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>>4768712
yes
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It would be pretty hilarious if she goes to 99/100 right away because she spent around two thousand years sealed inside Land of Shadows alone.
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>>4768725
not again
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...
You know, I don't think Shinji ever figured out who Second Rider was in character.
Or if he did it never made it onto the Character Sheet.
Or my notes.
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>>4768728
ice runes, aesthetic idklol "someone who looks suspiciously like I imagine your sister would"
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>>4768728
calculated Makiri guess/bluff
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>>4768725
Yeah, it would be hilarious.
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>>4768727
But people really wanted help from Irish Lancer about girl problem!
But honestly she a bit more well restrained and Aífe and Cu are around. I do hope she sticks around to teach us and our friends regardless.
>>4768728
We guessed right away. I would imagine Shinji would too if he was not thinking about Alan whenever he remembers that encounter.
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>>4768464
This can be changed.
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>>4768725
>>4768731
Threesome with Touko and Scathach soon. Lot of unprotected rune sex incoming.
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>>4768732
Scáthach is Scottish.
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>>4768734
Authentic Seithr Experience.
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She will get all the best tutors.
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>>4768733
Where is Amethyst?
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>>4768731
You could just not do that, you know. You control this Quest's reality, not the other way around. Be strong, remember you're the one in charge. You can do it, I believe in you.

>>4768733
I legit expected a pic of redman there.
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>>4768743
in suppository mode for safekeeping
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>>4768733
Very brave words.
>>4768735
Oh, yeah. It was train in a distant land arc for Cu.
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>>4768746
Give it back.
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>>4768744
Growing up without father and mother figures made Shinji weak to groomers.
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>>4768751
Shinji is basically weak to any romantic advances at this point.
He is, as you would call him, a manwhore.
However, older women receive a + modifer when attempting to seduce him thanks to his upbringing.
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>>4768751
Nah, nothing as sinister as being vulnerable to grooming. it's just the voices in his head telling him to chase after every skirt he comes across and some that he hasn't come across yet. Nothing at all to worry about.
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>>4768754
grooming isn't bad if it's an attractive female doing it
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>>4768754
>>4768756
Just wait for the grooming battles to start utilizing time travel.
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>>4768754
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>>4768758
Seeing how she spilled her spaghetti when Shinji hugged her I don't think she was grooming him at all. A shame.
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>>4768761
No! You can't hug me! I'm the one in charge here!
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>>4768761
>>4768762
>"And here is I-will-do-literally-anything-for-you-ticket, Shishou. Use it wisely."
When you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back at you.
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>>4768764
Do you want to break her?
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>>4768765
You know we've already given her a blank cheque to ask us for anything she wants, right?
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>>4768770
I don't remember this.
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>>4768771
It was two years ago, right after we saved Sakura from the rapeworms. We went to thank her for everything she'd done for us and offered a gift as a token of our appreciation. She couldn't think of anything she wanted at the time, so we told her she can ask for anything at anytime and we'd get it for her.

She still hasn't asked of anything.
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>>4768772
Well now that wormpa is 100% dead maybe it's time to remind her about it.
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>>4768773
Nah, I'm sure she hasn't forgotten. Shishou will tell us when she's decided. Let's not rush things.
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"Scáthach! I'm here to bargain!" You call out with a great deal of confidence, for some reason, you've always wanted to say that to somebody, and you suppose that in a situation like this, it can't hurt. Well, it could hurt if she for some reason took offense to your words, but the nature of those spears of hers mean that it wouldn't hurt for very long at all before it stopped hurting forever. Not a nice thought though.

"You... want to bargain? You've come to the Land of Shadows, while still... living, for a... bargain?" There's a great deal of bewilderment in Scáthach's voice, and you can't really blame her for thinking that way, this place she's trapped in was basically going to be her prison till the death of humanity, even if somebody found themselves capable of reaching it, they would die before having the chance to speak with her.

"Well, just hear me out here before you throw a spear at me, OK?." You try to persuade Scáthach not to kill you instantly with one of her deadly spears, and thankfully, she doesn't seem too prepared to murder potentially the first person she's had to speak with for over a thousand years.

"You have my ear." The woman doesn't show herself, she's probably still lurking in the shadows prepared to throw a spear at you if you dare end up being a threat of some sort. As you look around the Land of Shadows, you have a rather dreadful thought. This is a place of death, anybody without the proper protection who enters this place will end up dying invariably. You aren't quite certain how you're avoiding death from being in this place, but you just chalk it up to Truth or your Reality Marble assisting you.

"A... stray dog of yours has gone feral, and is going to cause quite a ruckus in the mortal world. I believe that you might be interested in teaching him some manners." You keep a friendly tone to your voice as you speak to Scáthach. You're under no illusion that upsetting this woman could be very lethal very quickly.

"A stray dog...? You don't mean... Sétanta?" The voice wavers a little bit as you reveal one of the causes for you coming here. If there's anybody who would be able to defeat Cú Chulainn even after he has been strengthened, it is Scáthach. Though she does still have a chance of losing the fight if she gets careless, she should have an overwhelming advantage over her own student. Especially given that she's had a millennium of training on her greatest student since they last met.
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"Yes, the hound of Chulainn, summoned as a Servant and corrupted by a girl who threatens the entire multiverse. I don't know the exact nature of his corruption, but he's definitely not in his right mind currently. Of course, that's not all, that I have to offer you in exchange for your assistance, Sétanta isn't the only one I believe is in the city who has a connection to you. In fact, in the early days of this... Holy Grail War, I saw another woman, she looked like she might've had some connection with you. In fact, she looked similar enough to you to perhaps be your... Sister?" You aren't entirely sure, but honestly, now that you look back on things, there's pretty much no way that it could be anybody else. She looked very much similar to Scáthach.

"My Sister...? You mean... Aife?!" Scáthach sounds alarmed by the idea of Aife and Cú Chulainn being in proximity to one another. Well, it's no real wonder why she would feel that way, after all, seeing how Aife and Cú's story ended up with him murdering the son they had together. Aife will almost certainly end up trying to murder Lancer.

[Status Updated!]

"That's right, but she's under the control of an Outer God, Nyarlathotep. I haven't seen much of her in the war, and I believe that Nyarlathotep... Or Alan Y.T. Thorpe, as he goes by, is mostly just keeping her around so he has a non-suspicious from the outside reason to interfere in the Grail War." Honestly, the idea of a Servant being kept on such a tight leash by their Master because the Master is orders of magnitude more powerful than them is pretty funny. It must be how the Servants of Manaka feel, actually.

Scáthach doesn't respond this time, apparently busy processing the information that her sister is being controlled by a God leagues more powerful than any she has slain.

"Now, I also personally seek your tutelage, if I were able to prove myself worthy; however, I do not have the time to available currently, as I am really quite busy dealing with multiple threats to the mortal world, time sensitive too, unfortunately. I've only just managed to deal with a Beast class Servant who was threatening all of Reality through his aim of collapsing all the timelines and trees of time into a single world under his control." You brag a little, to try to get the point across that there's more than meets the eye about you. Killing a Beast is something that should get you the respect of anybody with any sort of knowledge about just what a Beast is.
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"If you speak truly, then you have more potential than even my greatest student prior to you." Scáthach casually reveals to you that killing a Beast is something that alone puts you on a level above Cú Chulainn, even if you didn't do it alone, it was your hand that ended the life of the False Beast: Zolgen Makiri. "So, you wish me to aid you in dealing with my sister, as well as Sétanta and these threats to the world?" The woman finally reveals herself to you, she's still got one of her spears at her side, prepared at any moment to strike you. "And to train you as well? You're asking a great deal, you know." The woman doesn't seem too upset by the magnitude of your request, in fact, she seems like she's even... excited by it.

[Status Updated!]

"That's right, and if the the prospect of seeing the mortal world and being able to fight doesn't appeal to you enough, I can use my unique ability to imbue concepts upon people or objects to grant you the concept of mortality, meaning that if you wish it, you would be capable of dying in battle once more, allowing you to find a death you could be content with, rather than being forced to spend eternity in this purgatory!" You lay it on thick now, your ability to manipulate concepts has turned into something tremendously powerful when it comes to applying them to the core of people's being. A single applied concept can completely change somebody's fate. This is a tremendous power that you know shouldn't be abused, it's something that can be wielded to bring happiness to even those who have abandoned the idea of ever truly being capable of being happy.

Scáthach raises an eyebrow at your words, at your offer of granting her mortality. "Do you... speak the truth? Stranger who has come to the Land of Shadows, do you really have the ability to grant me mortality? Can you really give me the ability to die?" The woman sounds somewhat desperate as she asks you if you can truly give her the chance to die.

>"I can offer you more than the ability to die, I can offer you the ability to live. Now, if this sounds like something that is of interest to you, please come with me."
>"I can indeed. If death is what you seek, then I shall grant you an end."
>"Would you really wish for death so much if somebody could free you of the torment of being trapped in this place?"
>"Well, what would it take to get you to believe my words? A spar? Because I'm afraid I can't remain here for long. I don't have long until the portal I used falls apart."
>Apply a concept to the Land of Shadows to prove a point. (What concept?)
>Write-in...
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>>4768779
>"I can indeed. If death is what you seek, then I shall grant you an end."
>"But I can offer you more than the ability to die, I can offer you the ability to live. Now, if this sounds like something that is of interest to you, please come with me."
We can't come up with anything better than just those two to convince her. We can wrap this up now.

Fucking typos.
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>>4768779
>>4768781
This

Also some of our friends are immortal, they can discuss their situations.
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>>4768782
Yeah, Scathach, SHIKI and Ciel have a lot to talk about regarding unwanted immortality. We should introduce them.

And SHIKI could use some training too. Gil told us so.
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A concept to the Land of Shadows? How about something to connect it to any place? Freely travel anywhere from it and to from anywhere. I guess it may synergize with it being not connected to anywhere normally, which is the same principle Imaginary Number Space based travel uses.

Nexus or confluence of paths? At minimum it shows her we can do weird shit and that we can free her from it if nothing else. Even if the World were to keep throwing her out(for some reason) she could travel again and again to seek.
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>the Land of Shadows itself eventually became completely sundered from the mortal world, fully becoming a land of the dead.
>>4768779
>"I can offer you a chance to seek you own future. Ability to live or ability to die at your own will. It is your choice. But to proof that I am speaking the Truth..."
>Apply a concept to the Land of Shadows to prove a point. (What concept?)
>Rebirth
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>>4768781
>>4768779
Support.

I'm temped to apply the concept of Light to the Shadow Realm, just for memes.
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>>4768784
What would be the point? We can already use INS traveling with some minimum effort if we ever want to, we know the principles. If she gets sent here again for some weird reason, we can just bring her back again. Let's leave this place of death and hope to never return.
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>>4768787
>The Shadow Realm
Apply the concept of Card Games to it.
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>>4768789
The concept of topdecking then. It's better..
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>>4768787
The true meme answer is applying the concept of Rome. All roads lead to Rome as Quirinus/Romulus showed us.

But yeah, probably just offer Mortality and also Life. And the tons of immortals and gods and a new Age that is precedented if we have anything to say about how it'll go.

A new and unforeseen Age may also interest her New enemies to kill, new concepts and limits if we don't fuck up and things can grow?


Just throwing out extra thoughts.
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We're already really well taxed on mana supporting 5 servants, we're also tanking the Land of Shadows effects currently and we've lost the INS refill buffs. As much as I'd like to flex and apply a concept to a whole realm we'll probably just die. Maybe later we can make this shithole less of a shithole, and use it to get some peace and quiet away from the harem.

>>4768789
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>Apply the concept of "The Philippines" to the Land of Shadows

>nothing changes
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>>4768784
I think Fate treats it as such: She took over place filled with spirits of the dead and they were chained to her domain. After a lot of slaughtering and fighting, World just throwed her and her domain out because that place was filled with nothing but death.
This is why I am thinking giving her new life and ability how to go about it and showing life returning as fitting here.
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>>4768789
Now I want to see how good is Ozymandias at dueling.
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You know, for as impressive as you are, if she wants "Death as a person" then...
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>>4768799
Drake should do alright with EX Luck, and Dantes makes his own luck with lightspeed hidden cards drawn without the opponent being able to catch him
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>>4768800
Shiki's pelvis isn't gonna like us

>>4768784
If we need to get back here and other paths are blocked we can always have her chuck us through the Gate of Skye, or have Para leave a marker here to find it easily again. We're finna die if we try concepting a whole place right now, unless we assume it's going to cost near nothing due to being out of Gaia's reach
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>>4768800
Not him?
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>>4768803
Shiki goes around calling himself DEATH post Tsukihime.
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>>4768802
>We're finna die if we try concepting a whole place right now, unless we assume it's going to cost near nothing due to being out of Gaia's reach
I think Gaia is the source of cost. We did so much better here in INS than we ever did outside of it. Vritra, Suzuka, fight with Zolgen, super barrier that was doing better job than chains and Flame of Truth.
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>>4768805
But it is LARP. Old man is much closer to "death as a person" on conceptual level.
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>>4768807
Mystic Eyes of Death Perception are no joke.
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>>4768800
>We steal Shiki's girls.
>Give him Scathach in return.
Honestly a good deal for him.
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>>4768779
Calling in 20
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>>4768805
Thats autistic as fuck
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>>4768815
He is doing Aoko&Akiha route if we believe Carnival.
>>4768809
I guess we also have Pale Rider?
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>>4768781
Support.
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>>4768779
>>4768781
+1
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>>4768817
It's Chuuni.
Not autistic.

>>4768818
Can Pale Rider kill hallways?
Can King Hassan?
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>>4768826
>Can King Hassan?
Can't KH apply the concept of death on the hallway and then "kill" it?
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>>4768826
The line between Chuuni and autism is a very thin one.
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>>4768826
If God tells him the hallway must die then it will be done
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>>4768829
Sounds inefficient.
Shiki can just stab the hallway in the Death Point.
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>>4768826
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>>4768826
If Allah asks him to, yes.
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>>4768833
There is also his NP where if he hears God telling him to kill someone/somthing then it's 100% dead.
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>>4768832
>>4768835
That just makes him a high level janny.
Death doesn't discriminate.
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>>4768836
I don't know if its the eyes or the mouths.
Or both.
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>>4768836
The title did not lie

THE TITLE DID NOT LIE
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>>4768838
Death is the will of Allah, it does not discriminate.
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>>4768838
islam does literally mean "submission"

does it for free
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I don't think you guys are properly taking into account just how terrifying a Scáthach trained Shiki will end up being.
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>>4768846
Man needs a chance to shine, we cucked every single one of his love interests besides his sister
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>>4768846
Satsuki will be better.
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>>4768846
let the boy be more relevant.
i wonder if she can train illya? The girl needs to learn how to fight.
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>>4768846
I think we're actually counting on it. Shiki is kinda useless compared to all the powerhouses we've gathered. Couldn't even handle a little curse without passing out.
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>>4768846
It's fine, he's on our side and sufficiently supplied with willing lovers.
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>>4768851
she only trains young men she can groom, graduation ceremony is the "friendship of her thighs"
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>>4768849
He has the maids too, kind of.
Potentially Sion too.
Also, Aoko.
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>>4768851
Why would you want Illya to go through brutal physical training and learn how to chuck spears when she can become one of the most powerful mages alive if tought magecraft properly?
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>>4768846
He's on our side, its fine!
It's not like any of our allies would ever betray us, right???
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>>4768857
I keep forgetting Aoko exists desu senpai

Blue is too hard to quantify to use for plans so she suffers from character bloat side-lining hard
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>>4768858
why not both
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>>4768864
This pic is older than more than half the current userbase of this website.
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>>4768860
>Blue is too hard to quantify to use for plans
She's actually here, even. This could have been her chance to shine. And same for Medusa. I'm still disappointed we didn't see her in action, at all, after all the effort and the excitement of giving her control of her body and destiny.

>>4768866
Time is limited. Remember how many opportunities we've passed up in our training? How many other things we could have learned? An Illya who spent time learning how to chuck spears is an Illya who spent less time learning how to set fire on things with her mind.
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>>4768779
>>4768781
This

>>4768846
But would he even want to?
Kid just seems to want to live a normal life at this point.
Us dragging him into this world ending boss rush where he didn't even end up doing anything was already forcing him.
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>>4768871
Illya has the rest of eternity to learn shit if i have anything to say about it.
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>>4768860
The groom battle between Scáthach and Aoko will be legendary.

>>4768873
At this point its less about what he wants and more to do with the fact that he's absolutely going to draw the eye of Scáthach.

>>4768871
>This could have been her chance to shine. And same for Medusa. I'm still disappointed we didn't see her in action, at all, after all the effort and the excitement of giving her control of her body and destiny.
The resolution of this fight was more supposed to be you vs Zolgen. It wouldn't have felt right to have just had it end up in a dogpile on him.
They'll be plenty of opportunities for everyone to shine soon though.

Also what won?
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>>4768876
>>"I can indeed. If death is what you seek, then I shall grant you an end."
>>"But I can offer you more than the ability to die, I can offer you the ability to live. Now, if this sounds like something that is of interest to you, please come with me."


This
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>>4768876
>The resolution of this fight was more supposed to be you vs Zolgen. It wouldn't have felt right to have just had it end up in a dogpile on him.
No arguments about the resolution. But I had expected the dogpile to have been necessary to weaken him enough for us to get to the resolution. And the allies we've spend so much effort to gather and organise and inspire are part of our strength compared to him. It is disappointing to see so many of them relegated to background extra, barely even worth a mention compared to the new hotness, in the most climactic battle.
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>>4768881
>It is disappointing to see so many of them relegated to background extra
It was kind of disappointing for me as well, but I wrote for the plan you made, and if that didn't work, then you were completely screwed.
Orochi had effectively infinite stamina and could just keep regenerating.
Dogpiling would've just wasted everyone's time and probably gotten more than a few of your allies killed.
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>>4768846
I wonder how the "friendship of thighs" will go between Scathach and Shiki
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>>4768886
would max output EA have worked?
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>>4768886
>It was kind of disappointing for me as well
Well, you have the power to steer the quest towards outcomes you don't find disappointing. I'm not saying you should railroad us entirely, but not every one or our plans has to work perfectly and flawlessly all the time. That's where our allies would get their chance to shine, to step in and cover up for the flaws in the plan.

By anyway, no use crying over spilt milk at this point. I hope Manaka doesn't disappoint. And I know it's futile, but I hope the cast stops bloating and relegating more and more people to background extras.
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>>4768901
Sakura ga shinda!
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>>4768897
Possibly?
I'm not sure if it specifically destroys souls though.

Also, I just realized that I could've had it so Sakura was the last step on the binding plan to hold Zolgen in place.
Shit!
That would've been a much better conclusion!
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>>4768908
Don't even joke about this.

But I don't want people to die anyway. I want them to be relevant. Is that so bad to ask?

>>4768910
Dammit WhatIs...
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>>4768912
Ah well, Sakura is the only character that gets to kill Zouken in canon anyway.
...
Except Darnic.
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>>4768914
That is one hell of a highly censored Nazi outfit, holy shit.
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>>4768918
Nazi outfits are cool as fuck.
great design, shame that because nazis we don't see then much anymore.
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>>4768921
They were designed by Hugo Boss, actually.
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>>4768926
Hm, cool.
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Man, the Mage's Association must be so confused as to what's going on in Japan right now.
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>>4768945
Thank fuck Lord El-Melloi II is here, he'll explain everything to them.
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>>4768949
At this point he'd probably prefer to die instead of writing up a full report on this Grail War.
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>>4768950
Waver already wants to die.
Iskander will help him want to kill himself less.
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>>4768945
Not to mention the chinese TA knockoffs and DAAs shitting and pissing when they find out Arc got her hair back and Church due to various things.

We really need to disappear afterwards if we don't want to fuck them up in self-defence.
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>>4768950
We're giving him his dude back, he'd better do us a solid and blame everything on grandpa in this report.
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Shinji turns into a shota and gets groomed by all the onee-sans!

Remember when we used our shota powers on Monica and Aoko? Good times.
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>>4768953
I'm sure that nobody will put 2 + 2 together with your last name.
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>>4768952
>We really need to disappear afterwards

I've posted this before, but here's how we're going to get away with absolutely everything:
A) They were able to cover up Cthulhu in the harbor and a literal hell portal opening up over the city and spewing fiery cursemud. The normies will never know.
B) Waver is a friend and we're giving him his dude back. We're fixing Reines's crest. What's the point of having a Lord in your pocket if he won't even help you pin the blame for everything on dear old grandpa? The story practically writes itself:
>Grandpa was left seething after I stole his Servant and ruined his plans for the second time.
>He used himself as a vessel to summon the god Yamata-no-Orochi, killing himself for a final fuck you.
>I tried to stop him but failed.
>The time I spent trying to prepare for a second go gave him the time to summon a full set of seven servants, send a few to rampage across the city as a distraction, and summon two, yes two, dragons.
>Thankfuly for all of us, Lord El-Melloi II arrived in the nick of time and we were able to defeat Orochi with his help.
>We couldn't have done it without him. He's the real hero here. We should all applaud his strength, bravery and quick wits.
>Lord El-Melloi II, Reines El-Melloi Archisorte as well as your own Enforcer Bazett Fraga McRemitz will all corroborate my story.
>It's just a shame that the Grail War ended inconclusively with no winner, as it always does. I suppose we'll have to try again in 60 years. No servants were left in the world, naturally.
>Now, how do I enrol?

DAAs will be too busy getting hunted by 50% Arcueid to come after us. I have no idea how we patch things up with the church without cratering the Vatican. And who cares about the chinks?
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>>4768912
>Don't even joke about this.
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>>4768958
Parvati a shit.
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>>4768960
But think of FGO Grandpa!
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So both Shinji and Shiki will become relevant in direct combat after her training? Finally!!

Also why in the flying fuck did we bring Aoko and Shiki? We completely forgot about them. Damn do they have the ultimate stealth skill? I wonder what they are thinking watching this?

Wonder what Scratch would think seeing all of Shinji's girls? Would she draw a comparison between him and CU?
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>>4768956
If we want a good way to gather some political capital to enter the Clock Tower and not be questioned too much, we could do some work as a kinda "tuner". They usually specialize in repairing Crests and shit, but we can just do it with our Healing and do it instantly instead of taking decades, maybe procrastinate and "slowly" repair it over days and weeks instead of instantly, or decades it usually takes.

Also, now that I think about, did summoning and maintaining so many Servants going to drain the leylines? I am pretty sure the Grail and the Fuyuki lands weren't designed to support so many. SF's 14 Servants required redirecting and damaging many North American leylines and probably Apoc too.

I am pretty sure no one is going to believe El-Melloi helped us solo the war, but with enough backroom dealing we can probably get by. They know he's mediocre magecraft wise, but is also OP as a teacher.
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>>4768955
So what? It's all grandpa's fault, not ours. As long as the Association itself isn't after us, we can deal with any opportunistic idiot who might want to come after us for the Makiri secrets.

>>4768958
Seething

>>4768960
All pseudos are.

>>4768968
>Also why in the flying fuck did we bring Aoko and Shiki
Shiki passed out from the OBEY SUFFER OBEY SUFFER curse. We left him behind. We brought Aoko, Medusa, etc to be cheerleaders, apparently.
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>>4768972
>We brought Medusa to be cheerleader
What are you complaining about here?
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>>4768960
POO IN THE LOO
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>>4768972
There is no overkill, there's only "open fire" and "need to reload"
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>>4768971
>, but we can just do it with our Healing and do it instantly instead of taking decades
That's an excellent way to get Sealing Designated. I'd prefer we don't reveal too much about what we can do. No one has to know we fixed Reines's crest.

>I am pretty sure no one is going to believe El-Melloi helped us solo the war
They won't believe that a random 18-year old soloed the war either, and Waver is a known quantity. It won't be unbelievable that he put us all into shape, not after the street cred he gained by solving the Case Files. Reines can help with all the background deals necessary.

>>4768974
I wanted her to do more than stand in the background and look pretty. And do you see any cheerleading happening around? She didn't even get to do that.
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>>4768833
That's extra brain damage points for killing something that humans don't view as alive.
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"I can indeed. If death is what you seek, then I shall grant you an end." You look Scáthach in the eye, not flinching at all as you promise to give her death if that is truly what she wants, however, you don't really want to just kill her... "But I can offer you more than just the ability to die, I can offer you the ability to live." For Scáthach, she's been trapped for around two thousand years, so it's no wonder that she longs to die, spending so long in isolation with nothing to occupy herself with but battles that she couldn't possibly lose to whatever spirits make their way to her realm. "Now, if this sounds like something that is of interest to you, please come with me. The portal will close shortly, and I'd rather not be trapped here... Neither would you, I would imagine. So, will you come with me? What could you possibly have to lose?" If I'm lying, then you can kill me and use the Gate of Skye to just return to this place if that is your wish."

"You... know a lot about my abilities." Scáthach raises her eyebrow at you again, honestly, there's no real way that you could possibly know about something like her Noble Phantasms here, she's been separated from the world for millennia, still, she'll probably assume that you learned of her abilities either from Cú Chulainn or Aife. Both of them should have at least some sort of knowledge on Scáthach's capabilities.

"I make it my business to know." You evade giving any real information on just how you know what Scáthach is capable of. "So, do you accept? Will you come with me? Will you help save the world?" You decide to make your pitch to the woman one final time. It's been about four minutes now, and you don't want anybody else coming through the portal. The nature of the Land of Shadows could be immediately fatal depending on who comes through, and though a few of your allies would be fine in this place, you'd really rather not risk somebody who can't handle this world coming through. "I'll let you drive that spear through my heart if I'm lying, and I'd make that a self-geas if we had the time, but as things stand, I have about a minute before I need to leave." You glance back at the black portal. You really do not want to risk things any more than you already have here.

"Fine, I'll come with you. I'm not going to pass up on such an opportunity. Though the moment that time isn't so limited, I'm going to have you spar me, I wish to determine your martial skill for myself." Scáthach's words hold a small amount of excitement, clearly she's looking forward to the idea of getting to spar somebody who managed to not only break into the Land of Shadows, but also survive the effects of being there after it has become completely divorced from the 'real world'. It shouldn't have been at all possible for a living person to survive in this land of death, but you aren't even feeling the effects of it.
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Still, even if you can't feel the lethal effects of your surroundings, that doesn't meant that they aren't actually there. Even if you're being protected by something, you can't just assume that protection is going to last indefinitely, so with that in mind, you turn on your heel, look back at Scáthach to see if she's truly following you, and you head back through the black portal.

Light warps around you and you step out on the other side of the portal once again. Suzuka and Paracelcus don't appear at all shocked by your re-emergence, but Sakura practically leaps on you and starts possessively grabbing you, just in time for Scáthach to come through the portal and start examining the large group of people laid out before her. "E-everyone!" You try to introduce the woman through Sakura's possessive hug. "This is Scáthach, the teacher of Cú Chulainn, and somebody who has agreed to help us save the world." Scáthach is still too busy examining everyone before her to really pay much attention to introducing herself. She's likely trying to determine who the most dangerous threat in the room is, in case it does turn into a fight, of course.

>"Now, let's get out of here and go home."
>"Now, I still have a few minutes, so I want to see if I can get to one of the other summoning chambers."
>"Now, when we get out of here, I want everyone to properly introduce themselves to each other before we head back."
>Write-in...
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Anyone else having problems with the thread? Did it become sentient and began to vore posts? Or it only ate mine?
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>>4769011
Shinji, did you really thought it was over?
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>>4769010
how much time we have before the place goes poof
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>>4769011
Sometimes it does that, it eats a post and doesn't let anybody see it until somebody else posts.
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>>4769010
>Kiss Sakura to reassure her we're ok and we're not going anywhere
>"Now, let's get out of here and go home."

Structure still crumbling, time still ticking, waver, merlin and our friends still waiting out there. We got Scathatch, let's gtfo. Introductions can wait.
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>>4769010
>"Now, when we get out of here, I want everyone to properly introduce themselves to each other before we head back."
>"I know not all of us are present now, but I want you all to know I value you've chosen to help me deal with the threat Zolgen represented."


>>4769011
Must be Vritra x Sakura interactions
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>>4769024
so.
90 minutes?
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>>4769010
>"Now, let's get out of here and go home."
We`ll do proper introductions back home during formulation of plan for the next steps.
>>4768979
I am just saying that between making the correct call and saving our friends and making worse call but making bad call but letting them partake in fight the former is always better. All other problems with that situation aside.
>And do you see any cheerleading happening around? She didn't even get to do that.
We don`t know about it!
WhatIs, can you confirm it?
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>>4769010
>Kiss Sakura to reassure her we're ok and we're not going anywhere
>"Now, let's get out of here and go home."
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>>4769010
>Kiss Sakura to reassure her we're ok and we're not going anywhere
>"Now, let's get out of here and go home."
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>>4769010
>Kiss Sakura to reassure her we're ok and we're not going anywhere
>"Now, let's get out of here and go home."
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Calling in forty.
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I`ll support kissing Sakura too but only if we add ass grab.
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>>4769010

Actually... disregard >>4769022
changing to

>"Let's get out of here... but there's no time to rest yet."
>(Tamamophone on the way up) "Satsuki and the goddessess, what does the situation look like on the map?"
we still need to meet up with Waver and whatever else is going on topside
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>>4769048
>Satsuki and the goddessess
Sounds like a band.
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>>4769051
which one will play what instrument?
Satsuki will obviously be the lead singer.
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>>4769010
>"Let's get out of here... but there's no time to rest yet."
>(Tamamophone on the way up) "Satsuki and the goddessess, what does the situation look like on the map?"
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>>4769010
>>"Let's get out of here... but there's no time to rest yet."
>>(Tamamophone on the way up) "Satsuki and the goddessess, what does the situation look like on the map?"
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>>4769010
>>4769048
Support above
and disregard
>>4769057

For better linking
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>>4769010
>>4769048
Support
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>>4769044
I certainly wouldn't object, but I'm afraid of splitting the vote now. We'll have a chance to grab dat ass later, don't worry. Eternity lies ahead of us.
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>>4769051
Thanks for the carnival idea!
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I am starting to miss grandpa already.
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Really you want to kiss Sakura without first hashing out the situation with the other girls. You could just hold until you get home. Then explain things before causing chaos.
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>>4769048
>>4769010
+1
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Ne~ Onii-chan. Why do you always have so many women around?

You said that you loved ME so why do you need all of these women who are trying to steal you away from me? I'm feeling a little hungry Onii-chan...
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>>4769072
So now you want us to play cautious and NOT kiss the girl. The girl who was so worried about us, and right after we killed grandpa.

I swear, sometimes I cannot understand you people.
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>>4769010
Switching from >>4769030 to >>4769048
No rest for the wicked option is always delivers.
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>>4769067
As a direct result of Zouken's actions, you have
>Sakura
>Shuten
>Vritra
>Chiyome
>Nobunaga
>Suzuka
>Scáthach

What a cool grandpa.

>>4769066
You're welcome.
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>>4769078
Permanently add him to Dojo.
>>4769075
I am calling Vritra.
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>>4769078
Poor old man, all he wanted was to give gifts to his grandson and share the world with him. And we killed him for it.
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>>4769078
I question Sakura being on the list since without Zouken she’d be Rin’s sister anyway.
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>>4769078
Grandpa just wants the makiri bloodline to continue truly the most based of all grandfathers.
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>>4769048
>>4769010
Time to help our old friend Waver-kun.
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>>4769084
Rin's sister but not Shinji's. He adopted her to breed.
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>>4769078
>What a cool grandpa.
The greatest COOL
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>>4769078
Can we trade-in some girls and get grandpa back?
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>>4769076
Time an place consider it. Before there was a reason and no one around. Now it's just causing chaos for the sake of causing chaos. Even the intial Sakura kiss plus Rin kiss was unnecessary.

We have a dragon here that just learned positive emotions. What will her first bout of Jealousy be like?

I have played caution not just now but a bunch of times before but meme votes have always won.
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>>4769084
Yeah but she wouldn't be obsessed with you so it kind of counts.
Sakura raised as a Tohsaka would be... interesting.
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>>4769088
Speaking for breeding with Sakura, you do realize what is going to happen tonight right?
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>>4769078
I still hate him.
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>>4769010
>Kiss Sakura to reassure her we're ok and we're not going anywhere
>"Now, let's get out of here and go home."
Come in you faggots. Don't you want to kiss our sister?
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>>4769094
Sakura Edelfelt is a definitely a more based variant than Sakura Matou. I have no idea what a Tohsaka ver would be like.
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>>4769094
I think we’d get along well with both Tohsakas even without Zouken’s rape cave and from perspective of the girl who suffered most it would’ve been net gain too. That said I’m glad we could make her happy as we were.
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>>4769094
>Grail War with Double Tohsaka enemy team
Sounds "fun".
>>4769097
We get spirited away by an evil witch?
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>>4769092
If you oppose the kiss vote, then perhaps vote for something else in order to stop it?
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>>4769094
Sakura would be glasses Ayaka-like, timid and feeling like she is overshadowed by her older sister Even though imaginary numbers is stronger than jewel magecraft. If Rin took Sakura's place being adopted by the Matous, I could see Sakura being more confident in herself and assertive, she would also actually make an effort to rescue Rin early on.
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>>4769092
Vote for the other option if you don't want the coomers to win.
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>>4769106
>she would also actually make an effort to rescue Rin early on.
RIP Sakura Tohsaka, eaten by worms.
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>>4769092
After we kissed Shuten to distract her, we kissed Medea just to make her feel better. We've never been shy with the kisses, except apparently when it comes to Sakura for some reason. And I don't see those kisses as unnecessary.

Vritra JUST told us we have an eternity to know each other and refused to take advantage of us when she had the opportunity. She is literally the most stable member of the harem we have. She will not feel jealous at all. If anything, she will understand our reluctance better.

>>4769103
>We get spirited away by an evil witch?
Why not both?

>>4769106
Rin Matou would also break in a day, we know what happens.
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>>4769092
>We have a dragon here that just learned positive emotions. What will her first bout of Jealousy be like?
She will be creating obstacles for us to overcome.
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>>4769106
Sakura's personality almost entirely depends on whether or not she can get a tutor for her Imaginary Numbers or not.
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>>4769010
>>4769048
Think it may have already been called but.
Support
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What won?
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>>4769113
The only people I remember using it are Trisha Fellows and...Lev Lainur. I think.
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>>4769115
Tamamophone.
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>>4769097
>you do realize what is going to happen tonight right?
Manaka is going to fuck shit up again because we can get 5 min rest in this quest.
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>>4769115
>>4769048
Only in death does duty end.
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>>4769115
Communism
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>>4769100
Yeah, but we still have to catch up with Waver's group, solve the Too Many Servants issue and deal with Orochi's forces.
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>>4769010

>>4769060
Support
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>>4769122
EVEN IN DEATH I SERVE
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>>4769111
Medea is the one with teleportation spells and Sakura can`t be teleported.
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>>4769125
It will literally be a few seconds and it will make her so happy
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>>4769122
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We gotta pass off some of our servants, Shinji can't lay the upkeep once he's out.
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>>4769115
>Kiss Sakura +gtfo
>>4769021
>>4769032
>>4769034
>>4769038
>>4769100

>gtfo+tamamophone
>>4769048
>>4769060
>>4769061
>>4769062
>>4769074
>>4769077
>>4769087
>>4769114
>>4769122

I cannot believe the coomer vote always wins EXCEPT when it comes to Sakura.
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>>4769128
>>4769132
At last, back to war.
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>>4769135
We could try using some of our 3 sets of Seals to try Incarnating Servants after we ask Team Caster if its viable.
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Actually can't Saber incarnate herself with her shape shifting ability? Ask her to do that before going outside.
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>>4769136
Counted me two times here, buddy.
>I cannot believe the coomer vote always wins EXCEPT when it comes to Sakura.
I told you to go for an ass grab.
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We need to see if illya is fine and retrieve ishtar from gilgamesh for bulli
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>>4769136
Don't worry, it won where it counted.

>>4769135
Good point, when Betty wakes up, you'll be draining energy too fast.
While I write the update, everyone decide which of your Servants you want to send to a new Master.
>Betty
>Chiyome
>Medea
>Shuten
>Suzuka

Or begin to discuss a way to maybe get a larger supply of magical energy.
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>>4769145
>when Betty wakes up
Good joke.
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>>4769136
What you talking about, Sakura won the confession vote. Plus Sakura is too complicated to just bulldoze.

You should also notice that most of the coomer votes pass when no one else is in the scene to cause chaos. At least now we have time to have a sit down.

Wavers group should be outside correct. Are we meeting them on the way out?
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>>4769141
Why did you vote twice?

And I doubt it would have changed the outcome anyway...

>>4769145
>Spoiler
:(

And we were fine with Betty, Medea, Shuten and Chiyome with God's circuits, weren't we? We'll just have to send Suzuka off.
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>>4769145
We should probably try to discuss a way to get more magical energy if its possible...

The only things I can think of is either trying to rig up a Suzuka+Para Sword thing again and betting on our RM fixing up any damage that may come from jamming more Circuits into us, something to do with how runes are referred to as "Scandinavian Crests" sometimes, or some kind of grafting ourself thing.
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>>4769145
Aoko can have Suzuka
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>>4769151
>Why did you vote twice?
But I did not? >>4769122 here I just linked to vote that won.
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>>4769145
>Suzuka
She's the newest, and to be honest, i really don't particularly care for her.
Medea and Betty are unthinkable to leave, Chiyome is super loyal, and Shuten is too much of a danger to just give away.
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>>4769151
Why did you vote twice?

He didnt
look >>4769122
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>>4769157
That would be good, but how could we expand our energy?
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>>4769136
I mean, if nothing happens tonight why not do it with Sakura. Even though I'm a hardcore Medeafag I think it's the most fitting time to lose our virginity with our sister.
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>>4769145
>Determination of Self: EX
Through the concept of Self-Determination, this skill has been gained. This skill represents the Physical Determination that is required to make your own choices.
Representing one who can determine exactly how they manifest. This skill allows for an almost unrestricted level of Shapeshifting, any form can be taken, height can be changed, as can weight, muscle density, the proportions of the body, hairstyle and color, etc.
Due to this skill switching between a true physical body and the body of a Servant is possible, as is removing and reacquiring something like Divinity at will and this skill can also be used to heal from nearly any wound simply through taking on an unwounded form.
Shapeshifting into opponents and copying them in almost every regard is possible but... "I'd much prefer staying me, kay? So don't expect me to start turning into other people!"

Have Suzuku create a physical body for herself. Then pass Chiyome to Sakura to run. Also doubles as a way for them to get to know eachother.

>Chiyome
> Suzuku

Need all the Mana we can spare once Betty awakens.
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>>4769145
Betty is not leaving us and dropping Medea would be plain cruel. Shuten too after the restraint she showed when rejoining us.
Kicking Chiyome would be like kicking a puppy.

How about incarnating some of them? Like Medea which we we are taught to keep away from front line anyway?

How good a match Suzuka would be for SHIKI? Or given her new aspect, maybe she could pick a Master for herself?
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>>4769156
>>4769161
Ah, crap, speedread that link. Oh well, nothing changes anyway. Anti-coomers still carry the day, for once.

>>4769164
I am beginning to think people would vote against it. And I think we should get Sakura and Medea together in an empty bedroom tonight and tell them we love them both. There will be no better time than the day when we confessed to Sakura and got Medea WET/100 after kidneypunching her ex and kissing her just to make her feel not jealous over Shuten.
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>>4769154
Going back to this, we know that Crest implantation is deadly due to rejection which our Caster Team and RM could bypass. We know that Circe's magic circuits were partially in her cloak/wings.

It should, maybe, be possible to combine these with Touko's methods to create external organs/something like Circe's wings in reverse to hold extra magic circuits or something like that, and then connect them to ourself?

A bit more just "plug in" than actually doing spiritual surgery on ourself. We just need some Crests or Circuits, could Caster Team make some approximations?

Don't know if it would work, but our circumstances are kind of unique with all this bullshit we have access to.

Otherwise just create a magical energy holding object like a shitty knockoff Grail and drain some of the leyline from Adjacent Worlds into it or something, maybe? If we're going ambitious.
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>>4769164
In Rin's house when we have a serious situation happening and on the same night of the confession. No dates either, how easy do you think Sakura is?
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>apply concept of Gyaru to Suzuka
>send her to bully Waver

There is still stuff left for us to do, I would like to see Shinji princess carry Sakura once we actually decide to return home though.
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>>4769173
If she feels like it, Suzuka can just incarnate herself, she doesn't actually need a Master, and she wouldn't accept anybody other than you anyway.
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>>4769175
You guys over look the easiest method we have access to. Dragonblood from out now articulate daughter. Hell we also have a goddess in a jar to use for an empowerment ritual. It also kills off one more character avoiding bloat. As much as I want Ishtar Rin it's one of the fastest methods.
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>>4769176
>how easy do you think Sakura is?
She has been waiting for this for YEARS.
>>4769174
Go for it, you have my support.
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>>4769175
We already have literally the best magic circuits on the planet. We'll be getting a dragon core at some point in the next few days. Searching for yet another way to get more mana is just plain greedy and flirting with something going wrong. We were fine before Suzuka, we don't need nothing fancy.

>>4769177
>I would like to see Shinji princess carry Sakura once we actually decide to return home though.
You give me hope, fren.
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>>4769178
It keeps happening.

Oh well, have her flesh herself out, then.
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>>4769178
we can maintain 4?
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>>4769178
Based

>>4769179
We should just do the dragon ritual then. We have even more Casters and maybe Morgan can also dab on Merlin by giving us a dragon attribute but better.
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>>4769178
Then that's what we'll do. Suzuka incarnates, problem solved.

>>4769180
>Go for it, you have my support.
The right moment will soon be upon us. Hopefully.
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>>4769174
I'll vote for it. Nip this in the bud.
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>>4769164
I don't even think it's our choice anymore, the first chance we get to rest, Sakura is gonna come in and want to spend some time alone with us
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>>4769180
Years with no date and on the same night of the confession. Y'all be thirsty at least make it somewhat romantic.
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>>4769145
>have suzuka incarnate
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>>4769191
>Years with no date
We've basically been on several dates with Sakura over the past 10 years though and she was basically waiting for us to reciprocate her feelings
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We have nine command spells.
>Betty
Stays with us. Too dangerous to try to do something at the moment.
>Shuten
Has to be keeped on the leash. At least right now.
>Chiyome
Super loyal and does not take a lot. We get the most out of her as a Servant.
>Medea
Our cute evil witch.
If we can give her cool concept and use three seals to incarnate she will be much stronger than as a Servant. It is also serves as very unique gift.
>Suzuka
Should try to get herself physical body with her broken skill.
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>>4769136
There's a reason
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>>4769191
Have you even played the vns Mac?
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>>4769191
But we did date her, we dated her a lot actually; unless you don't count taking her out for food and buying her things as a date.
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>>4769183
It may explode if we do it in front of the other girls, namely Vritra, Suzuka, Tamamo, Arc, Medea, Satsuki

>>4769185
We have been since recruiting Chiyome. 5 seemed to be above our limit when we met Nobu.

>>4769196
I thought we had 3 for every new servant? How many CS do we actually have now, QM?
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>>4769204
I might have lost count of them.
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>>4769191
You date someone to learn more about them before moving the relation to the next step. Shinji and Sakura lived together for years, a date is completely unnecessary.
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We REALLY should ask for Casters to look at stuff and tell us if we can spend 3 Command Seals to Incarnate our Servants like in Prototype.
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We should pass the ninja to Sakura. She's an assassin that can protect her and it gives them a reason to bond. Suzuku incarnates herself and that gives us extra space and Mana to do other things. Let's not go with the minimum here just in case.

As for dating over the years that was as siblings not an actual date. Its like saying eating everyday with your family members is marriage. If those counted then what was the point of the confession?
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>>4769204
We have 12 command seals right now
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>>4769221
Ideally we could Incarnate Chiyome, Medea and Shuten, contract Para to refresh our Command Seals, Incarnate him, and Incarnate Betty? Suzuka can Incarnate herself easy.

I do think it may not work like that just because it would be too convenient, but its a worthy avenue of investigation just in case.
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>>4769212
I don't think it's going to be that easy, expect fuckery from Nyarly or Azathoth.
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>>4769223
Are you sure it is good idea to have free Shuten right now?
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>>4769227
I was more unsure of Incarnating Betty in case it does some weird Outer God bullshit, but I can see an argument for Shuten. I don't think she's that dangerous to leave around if we've already kind of let her out of our sight.
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>>4769223
Shuten off the chain would be like putting pac man in a room of ghosts.
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>>4769227
Private Investigators working on missing person cases will love it!
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>>4769212
No way it's that easy. We could incarnate everyone with our 3 free CSs.
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>>4769233
Well. I can take a hint.
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>>4769227
>>4769232
But seriously, Vritra is already free and by all accounts she's... kind of worse than Shuten. You might want to try to give her a list of things she's not allowed to do.
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>>4769235
We still don't know who gave us our weird Command Seals for sure or what they mean or how they are different. It could be that they're like that for exactly that reason, even if its something like Nyarly wanting all these ancient beings incarnated in the modern world and causing chaos and destroying secrecy and shit.
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How about this?
Suzuka incarnates right away.
We telepathically contact Medea and ask her to speak with other Casters and Touko about concepts they want and using 3 CS method to incarnate. If somebody can think of something it is them.
We contract Para afterwards to keep him around.
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>>4769241
it's basically standard secrecy rules for now+don't harm allies or normies. People who come after you like if they send Executors and Enforcers after us are fair game?

That's it I think?
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>>4769241
The way I see it is Viritra and Shuten were shotgun weddings to keep them on a leash.
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>>4769241
>vrita, you can't chew people's legs off even if it does "build character"
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>>4769243
I know Nyarly is usually much more malicious, and it is weird, but its probably either seeing us as more than a nothing normal human, Betty stuff or just a longer con.
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>>4769175
>Going back to this, we know that Crest implantation is deadly due to rejection which our Caster Team and RM could bypass.
Dude, we don't need the caster team and rm at all. Did you forget that one of Touko's big areas of research is crests? She can remove them and apply them to anyone.
We never got around to it, but we should really have Touko slap time alter on Shirou.
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>>4769245
This sounds good. Tell them that we know that in one specific situation we know it is possible to Incarnate someone using CS, but to check if this system allows it.

Just to tell them it's not just a wild guess but something we "know" some versions of CS at least can do.
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>>4769243
Lets ask Casters to take a look at our CS first before we follow through with it even if they confirm we can do that.
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>>4769243
Yeah but we could rule breaker everyone contract them to us and instantly incarnate them with the 3 free CSs. No way that works.
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>>4769241
>Please don't eat people my friends will get mad at me
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>>4769252
Touko doesn't really implant those Crests though. She keeps them in some weird external butterfly constructs that she just hooks up to herself when needed.

I don't think she can bypass the "non relatives can't inherit Crests" thing that would be required for implanting random Crests or even implanting the Emiya Crest from Carillon into Shirou, since he's not Kerry's biological child.
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>>4769258
Then let's go ask her exactly how her methods work before we start fucking with shit. She's still the biggest expert on crests we have.

>>4769251
Speaking of, we should go talk to Alan and see if he'll let us borrow Aife for beating up Cu.
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>>4769253
And if we can`t incarnate them we just give Para to Sakura since she has near unlimited supply.
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>>4769267
I definitely agree with talking to Touko first, just that we maybe can float the idea to her.
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>>4769267
We just told Scathach we need her help to free her sister anon. You sure you want to do that?
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>>4769272
Para should go to Rin she gets someone that teaches gemcraft.
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>>4769278
Can she support him normally without Ruby?
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>>4769275
We never said we needed her help to free her, just that she exists.
Also, hanging out with Alan is one of the things we need to do more.
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I wonder if Suzuka herself could serve as a Master, if she Incarnates.
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>>4769279
She only has Archer plus the same output as Sakura. She can more then support that.
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>>4769283
Same output, not same reserve.
Also she's got Nobu already.
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>>4769279
At worst she ll need to use ruby occasionally to top up.
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When do we see my cute wives again?
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>>4769290
At the next war meeting I guess. With some time we can expand on the Oni settlement and get Nobu's take on it too.
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>>4769290
Never, because when we return to the real world magical batman will have placed explosives that will cripple us and make all our waifus run away.
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>>4769291
>>4769292
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>>4769292
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>>4769292
Kerry's stuck in a teddy bear being carried around by Illya. Where's he going to find time to place explosives to cripple us?
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>>4769297
I'm referring to the other guy, the one that bullies onis and doesn't afraid of anything.
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>>4769284
Archer should have independent action which should lighten the load. Gotta check if Nobu has the same.
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"Everyone, let's get out of here... but there's no time to rest just yet, I want to see what the situation looks like up top when we get back to reality. The night may not be over yet." But god, do you hope it's over. Your magical energy might still be fine seeing as Betty is asleep and not actively using any, but your physical and mental fatigue are pretty extreme at this point. This day just feels like a day that simply won't end. The amount of built up stress you've got can't be healthy, seriously. "Gilgamesh, could I ask you to open up a passageway between this place and the bottom of the tunnel again?"

"That sounds like a waste of time." Gilgamesh frowns, before a portal opens up in front of him. "There, that should lead back to the entrance to the tunnel, instead of at the bottom of it. It was irritating enough to have to get to the bottom of that tunnel without relying on my Gates, I have no intention of repeating that mistake." Everyone slowly begins to shuffle towards the portal, including Sakura. It seems that Gilgamesh's Gates at least can be used by Sakura to get around. Perhaps it has something to do with it being an opening instead of a spell that directly transports her? Or perhaps it has something to do with her control over Nullification getting better? Either way, you're glad that there's at least a way for Sakura to get around without having to rely on modern transportation now. In fact, it might even be possible for you to have one of the Casters you know create a form of portal based instant transportation magecraft instead of the direct teleportation that Medea uses normally.

"Thank you, Gilgamesh." You don't forget to thank Gilgamesh for actually being useful for once, then again, he did just help you kill a Beast, so he's probably decided that he's not going to be a complete pain in the ass for everyone to deal with from now on. He might even apologize to Saber for how he treated her last war! ...Ok, now that's unlikely, and probably only really has a chance at happening if Enkidu and Ayaka were to find out just what a jerk he was being in the Fourth War.

It doesn't take long until everyone is through the Gate, and before long, you're standing on the ruins of the Einzbern Castle once again... Illya isn't going to be happy when she finds out what happened to this Castle. You didn't really have much of a choice considering that it was turned into Zolgen's stronghold, but seeing as he didn't actually end up using the Castle at all, it feels like your bombardment was just... a little bit hasty.
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>>4769284
We could give Nobu to someone else. It's not like she's especially compatible to Rin, compared to Paracelsus.

I imagine Nobu'd get along fine with Aoko.
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When you're certain that everyone has joined you back in 'reality' you allow yourself to take a breath. Finally, it's over for real. Zolgen is dead, and now, all that you need to do is deal with Manaka, who kind of feels like she's going to be a cakewalk in comparison to the threat you just dealt with. Still, you can't be too cautious, so you touch the sticker on the back of your hand. 'Casters, Satsuki, are you observing the map right now? How's it looking?'

'Oh, Master! I can get in contact with you again?' The voice of Medea comes through the link, it sounds happy, but there's an underlying strain to it. 'I've been trying to get in communication for a while, but... Wait!' You stop listening to Medea as something catches your attention, surging towards you and the rest of your allies like an all-consuming storm of certain death is a ginormous tidal wave of black liquid.

"What on Earth?!" Medusa is one of the first to notice the surging wave of death, followed by Suzuka. Chiyome stays defensively at you and Sakura's side, and you look up at the crashing wave of corruption and death. Is this... Grail mud?! You're going to need to do something, fast!

>Barrier of Truth around everyone!
>"Gilgamesh, a portal to Rin's house! Please!"
>"Everyone, attack it!"
>"Sakura, unleash Tiamat again!"
>Write-in...
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>>4769339
Sakura, unleash Tiamat again!"
Time for tit growth
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>>4769339
>"Sakura, unleash Tiamat again!"

I don't know how long we could keep up a barrier. Also I'm unsure if Manaka has a counter to Sakura but I think this is only to keep her busy while she does something else.
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>>4769339
>>Barrier of Truth around everyone!
>>"Gilgamesh, a portal to Rin's house! Please!"
Nope, not gonna stick around for this.
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>>4769339
>Sakura, unleash Tiamat again!"
>Time for tit growth
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>>4769339
>"Sakura, unleash Tiamat again!"
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>>4769339
>"Sakura, unleash Tiamat again!"

We don't have the mana to Barrier of Truth everyone. Portal to Rin's still leaves the tidal wave of cursemud to consume everything around. Sakura should work, again. I told you we should have kissed her when we had the chance, she could use the encouragement. I hope you listen next time.
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>>4769339
>"Sakura, unleash Tiamat again!"

>>4769352
>I hope you listen next time.
No.
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>>4769352
how does kissing even translate to anything in this situation. Are you serious or messing around? It's hard to tell using text.
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I'm kinda spooked that Manaka might take Sakura away if she unleashes Tiamat
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>>4769339
>"Sakura, unleash Tiamat again!"
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>>4769352
if you stop seething whenever we try to kiss another woman in our harem maybe i'll listen to you
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>>4769339
>"Nobu, burn it away with your Noble Phantasm."
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Uhhhh how widespread is the mud? It's not Singularity F time, is it?
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>>4769357
Aren't you the texture autist who almost made WhatIs quit the other night?

>>4769358
I know you were against the kiss last time we told her to unleash Tiamat, but it's a pretty similar situation and she could certainly use the encouragement, the reminder of what she's fighting for, to keep Tiamat under control. She almost ate Enkidu back then, we don't want her control slipping.

>>4769359
I really don't see how, and I'm the guy who's been worrying about Sakura the most.
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>>4769352
Motherfucker, why the fuck do you always find a reason to complain, Sakura won Shinjibowl, she’s his number 1
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>>4769352
I understand that you're a namefag and introspection isn't your strong suit, but your goals would be better served if you didn't try to shame people into enacting them.
The standing of your waifu is damaged by your association.
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>>4769365
There's a lot but it doesn't seem to be going towards the city.
At least it looks direct at you from where you currently are.
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>>4769369
Based
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Sakurautist, you're a fagguette and should kys.
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>>4769352
You actually making it seems like fucking Alberich had a point.
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>>4769339
>>"Sakura, unleash Tiamat again!"
>>4769352
Why must you be so lame?
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Is Manaka trying to steal Orochi's servants?
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>>4769379
She's absolutely trying to steal them, things get much harder if she succeeds
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I hope she isn't hitting the whole forest for more servants. If that's the case then we are about to have a lot of Alters coming out.
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>>4769362
After Vritra, I have learned to stop worrying and love the harem. I apologised to the haremfags, and I'll do it again if I have to. I suppose it'll take some time for my reputation to improve, but I'm willing to pay the price for my past mistakes.

>>4769367
>>4769369
I did not intent to shame people here. I was just trying for some light teasing with the similarity of the situation compared to when we last kissed her. We obviously could not have predicted this situation. I'm sorry if it came that way.
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>>4769383
>>4769381
>>4769383
Look at the bright side of things. Now everyone gets to fight since she could have captured Waver`s group, all ex-Orochi Servants and few wanderers like Wukong.
Maybe even Second Assassin.
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>>4769339
>"Sakura, unleash Tiamat again!"

>>4769386
Punished sakurafag
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>>4769386
Whatever your intention was, you made a lot of people mad and reinforced your reputation as a whiner.
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>>4769393
>you made a lot of people mad
Really? Mad? A namefag being whiny is enough to get you angry?
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>>4769395
no
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>>4769386
Hey, at least you are no longer doing anonymous cuckposting after you started namefaging. It was already a major improvement.
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>>4769393
I really am sorry, anon. All I ever wanted was for the girls to be happy, and it took me a while to realise my approach was wrong. I'm trying to do better.

>>4769399
>anonymous cuckposting
The fuck?
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>>4769339
>>"Sakura, unleash Tiamat again!"

>>Hold her hand
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>>4769339
Switching >>4769352 to support >>4769407
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>>4769407
+1
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>>4769339
>"Chiyome, cleanse this vile filth please!"
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>>4769405
Your manner of expression is very similar to one anon here who was really adamant about Sakura only route and was very pro-active about how only Sakura matters and how we should talk with other girls and make them go fuck somebody else since harems are bad. And he was doing it just about everytime any questions about romantic endeavours were brough up.
I am thinking it was you. So I complimented you about you are no longer doing so.
I don`t like Sakura but I appreciate your efforts in containing yourself and trying to do self reflections from time to time. Giving credit where credit`s due.
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>>4769407
+1

also the fact that Merlin left enough of Orochi's servants around to have Manaka consider BLACKED'ing them to be a good move

Thin ice, futamancer
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>>4769339
Changing to>>4769407
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Hey look at this neat Scath.
You know, conflict may arise between Touko and her if you actually do train under her.
Just saying.
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>>4769437
Wouldn't Touko want to learn what she could from her? Runes are her deal.
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Ten minutes
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>>4769339
Changing to >>4769407
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>>4769437
Another groomer trying to take away what is rightfully hers
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>>4769432
...that was probably me, yes. I used to be very pro-monogamy (even to the point of supporting Medea for the brief moment before Alitheia also accepted Sakura as her mother), and I was looking for ways to make it work. I didn't see it as cucking since we'd never start a relationship with any of the other girls.

As I said, it took me a while to realise the error of my ways. Alitheia began the process, Vritra ended it.
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>>4769440
Good fucking luck trying to convince Scathach to teach you runes, those don't come easy and they're hard to learn
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>>4769437
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>>4769437
I don't want to disappoint Shishou. Scathach will have to content herself with Shiki.
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>>4769407
>>4769339
+1
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>>4769448
Hahahaha.
Haha.
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>>4769437
Touko has experience in killing immortals. She can manage it.
>>4769442
>Kiyo
Oh no/Oh yes.
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Enkidu's forest scan
>>4747572
>>4747572

Jobbed to Orochi
>Ayaka, EMIYA, Touko, Billy, Shiki, Rin, Sasaki and even Morgan
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>>4769448
We're giving her the thing she wants the most, death. Is she really gonna be that anal about it if she'll be dead anyway?
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>>4769451
Shiki can have his sister and his maids I want Scathach
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>>4769442
Are you telling us to go summon another possesive snek? Also cute pic
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>>4769451
How is it possible to become more unbased with every sentence?

>>4769458
Now this is based. See? Its not that hard.
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>>4769442
Neat!
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>>4769461
There are never enough sneks.
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>>4769451
>Scathach will have to content herself
She is training everyone. Even EMIYA.
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What would Monica think?
Her adoptive younger brother is becoming a manwhore.
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>>4769437
Prime Runes and actually being useful in a straight one v one. I don't think even Touko can argue with that.
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>>4769470
Eh, she saw the signs when we were a kid. She warned us. She won't even be surprised to see what happened in the few days she was gone.
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>>4769470
What do you mean becoming?
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>>4769451
Remember when we tried to ship sakura with Shirou? Yea that didn't pan out well now did it. Nor will this attempt.
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>>4769470
Who?
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>>4769451
And you claim to not be a cuckposter.
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>>4769470
Didn't Shinji kiss her too? She already knew it was too late.
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>>4769475
Shiki can also kill her. She'll be interested in him when she finds out. If Scathach and Shishou will clash over who will be our teacher, I will side with the woman who supported us all these years.
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>>4769466
Can Grandpa come back for a few minutes and go beat up Manaka?
>>4769470
Despair over her fault.
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>>4769470
I blame the older women who groomed us
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>>4769477
(you)
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>>4769458
Shiki can trace her death lines while they're fuckin

She might be into that sorta thing
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>>4769470
>Becoming
she called it way, way, way ahead of everyone else.

Seriously though. How ARE we going to satisfy all these women? I know you have a plan in mind, OP, or you would not have been making them fall for us so readily, plot reasons notwithstanding.

Time travel?
Timeline seeding?
Highly detailed puppet bodies?
Tentacles?

You must know nobody here will accept anything that will make their waifu cry. Some of us won't even accept having the other girls cry either. And think of the children! We want to give a good example to our insanely overpowered daughters after all.
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>>4769487
Nothing like having your arms and legs falling off mid-coitus.
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>>4769470
She predicted this pretty early, I bet she’ll have one hell of a long conversation with Shinji when she gets the chance
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>>4769492
With a lot of german words mixed in.
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>>4769489
Rock paper scissors
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>>4769339
>>4769407
Support
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>>4769479
How the fuck is it cuckposting? I'm not saying we shouldn't fuck Scathach, I'm saying if we must choose a teacher it will have to be Shishou. Everything we've achieved has been because of her. Do you really want to abandon her now? Even when she's already trying to restrain herself from using her blank cheque to claim us?
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>>4769487
That's pretty gross, but Shiki did manage to make a vampire lady fall in love with him by eviscerating her so maybe?
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>>4769407
So is this winning?
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>>4769490
Immortality is a gateway to many fetishes some consider to be. . . unnatural.
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>>4769481
This isn't a harem discussion so I'm pretty sure we can use pragmatism to appeal. I want Shinji to be able to solo a servant. Is that too much to ask when we have the answer to my hopes right there.
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>>4769489
the plan is to reduce the cast by any means necessary :)
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>>4769504
I think it was without handholding but that may just be a slow switchover rate, since it came in late.
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>>4769490
NO SHIKI DON'T STICK YOUR DICK IN HER DEATH POINT
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>>4769489
>Tentacles?
>"Hey, buddy, are interested in Apotheosis?"
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>>4769489
Tbh tentacles sounds like a good idea there was a doujin about that with dark sakura and it was pretty hot.
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>>4769505
Yes, but even immortals can't heal from death lines being cut, you need to completely restructure your body like Arc or Lugh can.
Or you can just have Shiki bring you the Scáthach nugget when the two are done.
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>>4769407
You fucking degenerates.
Support.
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>>4769501
I guess you also mean that we couldnt train with Alcides, or Chiron if he appears? Fuck that. Shishou can just reproduce the remaining Primordial Runes other than the 3 she got if she wants to.

Her speciality is puppetry of Human Imitation which just doesnt work for us.
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>>4769496
did someone say gratuitous use of german
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>>4769344
>>4769346
>>4769351
>>4769357
>>4769376
>>4769392


>>4769349


>>4769363
>>4769407
>>4769408
>>4769423
>>4769434
>>4769435
>>4769444
>>4769453
>>4769500
>>4769516


Handholding wins. Filthy degenerates.
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>>4769489
It shouldn't be impossible as long as we aren't doing five hour doujin timeframes.
>>4769501
Try expressing disinterest in a girl without mentioning another guy sometime.
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>>4769515
Does Scathach even have a death to actualize? Since shes normally super immortal, I'd guess Shiki would need to strain his brain a lot.
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>>4769515
>"Dude, I know it's personal but can you at least tell Giselle to bring the bloodstain resistant linens out before you go at it? yeah, we have these. Don't ask."
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>>4769339
>>4769392
>>4769407
Support handholding
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>>4769523
Arcueid at night time shouldn't have a death either, and I'm pretty certain he can still see faint lines on her.
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>>4769523
Shiki likely won't be able to kill her, she likely doesn't even have death lines or points, Arc doesn't during a full moon
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>>4769515
bet that nibba has a collection of Victim Girls and Taimanin shit. Haha time for quad amputees
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This next update will break the no erp rule.
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>>4769537
Am I misremembering?
I swear he could still see them, just very faintly.
>>4769539
Shiki really would've done better if Aoko actually decided to make sure the little boy with magical WMD eyes actually got properly raised by somebody with knowledge of magic instead of just looting Touko's glasses for him.
Also she somehow didn't notice the weird lifeforce exchanging shit going on with him. Good job Aoko.
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>>4769517
I was responding to WhatIs specifically mentioning Scathach and Shishou coming into conflict regarding the star pupil. I imagine the others have a sufficiently different specialty that Shishou wouldn't mind.

Though I would still prefer if we spent the time to keep improving our Magecraft instead. We got much, much more use out of it during the war. Imagine what we can do with even more time to perfect it. We'll need to figure out why our Puppets came out wrong anyway. And we still haven't studied grandpa's tomes to see if there was anything useful in there.

>>4769520
Yes!

>>4769545
No one tell the jannies.
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>>4769546
We sure were lucky to get the superior Aozaki sister as our mentor.
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I can`t shake off the feeling that we are forgetting something and Manaka outplayed us somehow.
Tiamat is a way to obvious option here.
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>>4769553
The one who actually knows how to use magecraft and doesn't just have a True Magic Cheatcode.
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>>4769546
I remember reading that Arc straight up can't die during a full moon
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>>4769561
Ah, I remember now, Shiki can see them while she's weakened as she is in Tsukihime, and he can also see them by killing the area around them to cut her off from the world.
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>>4769558
Sometimes the obvious choice really is the correct one. Remember counterspelling Paracelsus? I don't really see how this could backfire.

>>4769559
Not just "knows how to use magecraft" but one of the best living mages if not THE best. AND a great teacher.
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>>4769566
Hey QM, you know, with new grail mud, what if we maybe kinda use it to summon Avenger/Zerker Boudicca with and say “grail mud and servant regrets lmao”

Please I need her I want to use her to kick ass with
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>>4769550
You do realize we have Runes and Scratch can take that to the next level. Instead of how they are now. Essentially useless in a one on one.

We should build on what we have instead of picking up new things. It took three years to reach C rank in snake style. That's my main reason why I don't want to start something new.
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>>4769582
We can practice with Miyako now. I’m sure we can get the meta bajiquan out of that.
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Best trick I can think of is idea that Manaka used some of stolen Outer God powers to poison mud and make Tiamat go berserk.
>>4769568
We will see soon enough. No point in further worries.
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Actually come to think of it I’m a bit worried about Vritra proximity. Hope she can control her passives enough to let Sakura do her thing or else we’re fucked.
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>>4769566
Evangelion cross over when?
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https://files.catbox.moe/yebb5z.jpg
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>>4769603

BRUH
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>>4769603
>>4769608
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>>4769603
>that quality
Come on now, you can do better
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>>4769603
IM CONFUSED, DO I FUCK THE VAGOO OR THE FOOT VAGOO?!
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>>4769582
Yeah, Runes are probably what brings Scathach and Shishou into conflict. Everything we learned about Runes, we learned from Shishou. She is the greatest living practitioner. If we go now to learn from Scathac, it's like we're admitting Scathach is a better Rune teacher than her. I'm all for learning more Runes, but Shishou has not taught us all her tricks yet. Of course, it would be ideal for them to collaborate, but I doubt either of them would accept that.

And I'm all for improving our existing things instead of learning new ones too. Hell, we could finally succeed in our efforts to unite Bajiquan with Snake Style and create the ultimate martial arts, which we will then teach to Miyako.

>>4769590
Indeed. Whatever happens, happens. But I trust in Sakura, and I trust in the power of handholding.
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>>4769612
High-quality is locked behind paywall.
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>>4769614
Yes
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>>4769625
Well. Scathach IS better at runecraft. She has all the Primordial Runes not just 3, and can do crazy stuff like modify Servant bodies/Saint Graphs and make Gae Bolg, the Gate of Skye, etc.
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>>4769558
Forest is full of other people and servants, so the worst possible outcome would be all of them getting captured while we're playing with our sister here.
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>>4769636
You could've asked this evil fairy to teach you magecraft if you really wanted.
She's far superior even to Scathach.
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>>4769636
This does not necessarily mean Touko is not the better magus, as her actual speciality is Human Imitation puppetry, while runecraft is a side project, but it IS true. And I don' think puppetry holds more value for us in general, even if we could use it. I'd rather improve personal skills or power.
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You grab Sakura's hand tightly in your own as you look at the encroaching wave of death. "Sakura, unleash Tiamat again, her powers are our best bet at surviving... that." You look up at the tidal wave, you only have about fifteen seconds before it crashes down on you, and with this much of it, the only members of your faction who won't die are the ones who can't die. You'll likely be consumed by the grail mud when there's this much of it. Could Manaka have really gained so much power? How on Earth has she managed to bring forth such a huge amount of Grail Mud?

You look behind you to see Gilgamesh with a familiar looking gold and red weapon in his hands, the dials on it are already spinning as he prepares to unleash Enuma Elish at the grail mud. Though as he's about to unleash the almighty Ea upon the Grail Mud, small horns spring from Sakura's head and she grows taller. Though she doesn't spend any time at all remarking at her changes, she simply looks forwards at the wave.

"Gilgamesh! There's... no need for that! Sakura has this handled!" You tell the King of Heroes to calm down and put away that reality sundering Noble Phantasm of his. Gilgamesh frowns, but upon seeing the wave begin to part as Sakura commands it to avoid you and your allies, obliges you. While Enuma Elish may well have been able to destroy the Grail Mud entirely, he would've needed to use it on a tremendously high setting, and that might've ended up destroying even the nearby Fuyuki. Especially if Enkidu joined in.

The opening Sakura creates in the wave of corrupting death means that you and all of your allies remain completely dry as the grail mud consumes everything around you, all life is engulfed and devoured by the mud, the trees of the forest are no exception, not even stumps are left behind as the mud consumes everything in it's path.

"...Potnia Theron..." Sakura says something that alarms you a great deal. "This... mud... It's infused with a recreated version of Tiamat's authority of life..." Her eyes are full of anger as she looks at the destruction caused by the wave. There's... no more forest anymore, from here all the way to the temple, the forest has been swallowed by the grail mud. You look behind you to see the wave dissipating after consuming another few miles of forest. Wow... there's just... there's just no way that this is getting covered up.

With the immediate threat gone for now, Sakura returns to her normal form, apparently not wanting to rely on Tiamat's abilities for longer than she has to. "This is... a nightmare." Enkidu steps forwards, his voice quiet. "That level of disrespect for nature and life... but with the authority of life itself... this is the work of the girl who corrupted me, I am sure. But... this is the power inherent to the nascent god of evil, how could she be using it like this?"
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"We'll have to figure that out later, Enkidu." You would also like to know why exactly Manaka is using the grail mud in this way, and if she was capable of it, why she didn't just do so before, instead she relied on Enkidu to do her work for her, and that... didn't exactly end up going well for her. For now though, you need to talk with Medea again. 'Medea, were there any survivors on the map of that attack other than my group?' You keep your words quick and quiet as you think. In a worst case scenario, Manaka just managed to capture ten or so Servants to do with as she pleases. Not to mention the rest of Waver's group.

'There... There are four dots with the energy of a Servant, one to the immediate north of you along with another dot almost directly next to them... one alone further to your north that seems to be fading, one to the west, fleeing deeper into the forest with great speed, and one to the east.' Medea explains things quickly, and you survey the devastation of the newly formed lifeless wasteland. The good news is that you feel a lot less terrible about destroying Illya's castle now that the entire forest is basically gone. The bad news is that this can only mean that Manaka has managed to amass a great deal of power through managing to hijack whichever Servants couldn't survive her attempt to consume the entire forest with grail mud.

>Check out the two dots to the north.
>Check out the fading dot to the far north.
>Pursue the fleeing dot in the west.
>Go after the dot to the east.
>Don't bother going after any of the dots, go home, you're tired.
>Write-in...
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>>4769640
I am not sure, or wasnt sure, if our styles of magecraft were compatible. She seems to use Fairy magic somehow based on her mixed blood, which we dont have, while we share runecraft with Scathach. I may be wrong though, then it becomes a possibility, even if trusting Morgan is...
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>>4769646
Don't bother going after any of the dots, go home, you're tired.
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Ohhhh, fuck. Will this day never end?

Fleeing dot is probably Sun. No idea who the others might be, but the fading dot is probably the only time-critical one.

And what the FUCK has Merlin been doing? How can he expect to avoid being garden gnomed after a showing like this?
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>>4769646
>Check out the fading dot to the far north.
If it's fading, might be someone dying.
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Fading dot seems time sensitive, any preparation or just go?
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>>4769646
>>Check out the fading dot to the far north.
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>>4769646
>Check out the fading dot to the far north.
>Try to take a peek at the two dots to the north while heading to the one fading if you can.

>>4769654
I don't see what preparations we could make.
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>>4769646
>Check out the fading dot to the far north.
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>>4769646
>>Check out the fading dot to the far north.
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Wait, we have like 20 people with us, can't we send people around?
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>>4769663
And what if there's a second cursemud tidal wave? I don't want to split the group.
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>>4769663
If you want to put them at risk of another one of those life-consuming tidal waves, sure.
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>>4769666
Did Organ Dog make it out okay?

>>4769646
>>Check out the fading dot to the far north.
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If we're hurrying so much, do we want to have someone carry us or to ride someone? We dont have Ares Sash to sanic. Since it IS fading
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>>4769646
>Fading dot to the far north
>Ask Enkidu if he can tell us anything more as we go

I'm guessing we should stick together in case the goo comes around? Except for those of us that can fly I guess. Maybe Medusa could grab someone on Pegasus for aerial recon.
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>>4769669
Organ dog is fine.
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>>4769646
>>Check out the fading dot to the far north.
We go check it with Sakura and Gil


Have the others check the
>Check out the two dots to the north.
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Manaka was throwing tantrums? Looks like she is pretty mad.
Enkidu and Karna can check who are those Servants.
>>4769628
https://github.com/nagadomi/waifu2x
Modern problems, modern solutions.
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>>4769666
Does presence concealment extend to mount? Maybe Medusa could lend Pegasus to Chiyome?
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>>4769670
>Ride someone

Piggyback ride, being carried or transformation?
Vritra can take on a smaller version of her Dragon Form is she wants outside of her Noble Phantasm world.
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>>4769673
Good. I'm still waiting for him to show up again, he was the best character in this quest.
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>>4769646
>Check out the fading dot to the far north.
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>>4769654
Its just someone, probably a servant that is on the brink of death. I wonder if Arthur is anywhere in the forest since it was either him or Gray that clashed with SAlter earlier. To be honest I'm surprised Manaka hasn't attempted to pull him from the grail and Alter him since she was able to pull someone like Enkidu from there.
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>>4769666
>>4769665
I thought the whole point to having strong allies was them being able to do stuff without us having to ensure they don't fuck up.
Also, some of them can fly.
Fucking scaling dificulty.
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>>4769670
How about Lugh? He should still have Bellerophon, and that's what we were planning on doing anyway.
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And how the fuck did Manaka get her hands on Potnia Theron? Did she copy it from Sakura somehow? Or maybe we should have someone check up on BB?

>>4769684
Generally yes, but you just saw it was either Sakura parting the wave, or Gil demolishing Fuyuki. We have to stick together.
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>>4769646
>>Check out the fading dot to the far north.
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>>4769688
Well Manaka is omnipotent, and her stat sheet of "having the knowledge of every spell ever, surpassing that of the greatest of casters from age of gods because of her omnipotence" makes her pretty broken and can pull something like that out of her ass.
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>>4769688
Oh no, Manaka has always had it.
Under her Hanafuda abilities, it's listed as Potnia Theron: Princess over Monsters
She just hasn't really felt like using it until now.
You would really do well not to underestimate a serious Manaka.
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>>4769646
Changing >>4769659 to
>Quickly ride Lugh with Sakura again.
>Check out the fading dot to the far north.
>Try to take a peek at the two dots to the north if able without delay, they should be on the way.

Probably too late for the write-in, but oh well.

>>4769696
Consider it a lesson learned then. And we were worried about how she could compare to grandpa.
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>>4769694
Yes, Manaka is omnipotent in the sense that she can do anything.
She's not an almighty god, but there's nothing she can't accomplish with her power.
The only thing holding her back is energy quantity.
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So this is the part where Manaka starts going all out in order to not look like a joke compared to gramps right?
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>>4769703
Yes.
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Going to do wild guess. Merlin saved Waver`s group and those are ex-Orochi Servants and Wukong.
>Check out the two dots to the north.
Siegfried and Vortigern. Vortigern was the one in charge of Siegfried.
>Check out the fading dot to the far north.
Berserker Nero. She is running out of juice since Orochi is gone and she is Berserker.
>Pursue the fleeing dot in the west.
>Go after the dot to the east.
One of them is Wukong and the other is some female armor wearing knight.
>>4769646
>Check out the fading dot to the far north.
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>>4769698
>>4769705
>Yes, Manaka is omnipotent in the sense that she can do anything.
>Can`t win Shinjibowl
Heh.
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>>4769710
Don't you underestimate her ability to pull off a Femme Fatale.
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>>4769646
30 minutes call
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>>4769646
>Don't bother going after any of the dots, go home, you're tired.
...and there goes the victory.
Diplo with Manaka in the dream.
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>>4769711
>Manka Vore
Cute!
>Left Manaka Vore
Cuter!
>Both Manaka Vore
Cutest!
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>>4769711
But Tiamat is already right there??
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Highest prio is probably Nerozerker

Manaka getting her grubby little yandere paws on her would be Very Bad News
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>>4769711
This little girl >>4768753
>older women receive a + modifer when attempting to seduce him thanks to his upbringing
She never had a chance. Best she can do is ask to be daughterzoned.
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>>4769711
I want to rape Manaka.
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>>4769722
Yeah, we're fucked if she completes her Beast puzzle. But we can't be sure which of the dots it is, unfortunately.

And if it is Nero who's fading, do we heal and recruit her? Or feed her to Sakura so her soul gets destroyed instead of going to Manaka?
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>>4769731
I'd rather recruit or concept her if her madness is too strong if we can.
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>>4769731
Recruit duh, wasn't there a consensus that we should incarnate as many servants as we can? We could give her to the plethora of mages or people with high high magical energy in our party. Turning Nero back into her normal sound mind self would be good.
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How about we concept away Nero`s Beast qualification?
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>>4769725
I'll do you one better
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>>4769741
Hmm... redemption? salvation? Wonder what these would do, assuming they are not the kind that would kill us.
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>>4769746
>"Finally took an interest in Matou`s magecraft, Shinji?"
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>>4769603
>BadApple art

At least it isn’t the prolapse stuff he draws
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>>4769737
She can save the harem using her experience. We need harem master Nero she's the hero we don't want but the hero we need umu.
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>>4769754
Well considering that Nero as a Beast comes from her being the Rider of Beast of Revelations, maybe salvation works?
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Few things after catching up

Morgan can either make us scuffed homunculus copies to integrate into ourselves for extra circuit count, but that risks her starting a side project without our knowledge.

Or, she can transplant Independent Action onto some of our servants, I'd definitely recommend Chiyome at the top of the list. The instant communication and CS eject button are very important for her especially.

Suzuka may as well incarnate.

Was gonna suggest having poopchute just vacuum up any grailaids with Gate of Skye but being made aware of Manaka's Potnia Theron access is actually an imporvement on that with hindsight now thrown in. She can do it in future though to allow splitting up forces, maybe only send flyers out on their own so they're able to avoid getting BLACKED, and Enkidu + Gil will be fine to go out together and capture stuff too if you want a reliable team that can function independently
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>>4769758
Unironically a great point, she has experience wrangling Tamamo and dealing with harems
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>>4769754
>>4769759
I am leaning towards Salvation too.
It is also good concept for Nero by itself.
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So, you're heading far North?
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>>4769795
yes.
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>>4769795
Yes.
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>>4769795
yes.
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>>4769795
Yes.
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Sub vote.
Do you want to send the rest of your group back and travel light and fast with only a few allies?
Or do you want to travel as a large group?
If yes, tell me who you want to take with you.
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>>4769813
Aren't we and Sakura the slowest in the group right now?
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>>4769813
Yes
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>>4769816
You still have the cool magic dog to ride.
Or you can ask Medusa to transform into the Gorgon to ride.
Or you can ask her for Pegasus, if you prefer.
Or you can ask Vritra to transform to ride her.
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>>4769813
It goes contrary to my better judgment but let's ride Vritra's flying form with Rin and Obeithion to get to the fading light faster while rest of the group follows on foot protected by Sakura.

Maybe have Chiyome give us protection from curses to be sure.
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>>4769813
>Ride Lugh with Sakura, he should still have Belerophon and it's what we planned to do anyway.
>Everyone else sticks with us.

>>4769820
Yeah, that's my point. There's no reason to send anyone away if they don't slow us down at all.
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>>4769821
Chiyome with us and Sakura in other group for anti mud duties? We might need more general anti curse but ground group just needs to not be mudded.
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is there a reason not to send gil/enkidu after another group?

they can't be blacked anymore
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>>4769823
Yeah but Lugh is faster than everyone else while he's got Bellerophon on.
So they'd slow you down.
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Who's the fastest? Lugh?
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>>4769821
>>4769824
>>4769826
I wouldn't assume this was Manaka's only card to play. We just got a reminder that we've been underestimating her, let's not underestimate her again. Even if the cursemud tide can indeed be handled by people other than Sakura.

>>4769827
With us are Servants that can run faster than cars, Ciel with her absurd reinforcement and Aoko the Fifth. Will they really slow us down that much?
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>>4769831
Yes.
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>>4769827
Lugh can take on a flying form, too, right? How does he feel about that?
For giving him Medusa's bridle we left the good lad woefully underutilised.
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>>4769832
there's only a single dot to the east and that is away from her temple. there is no way the power scaling has made 1 servant able to handle gil+buffed enkidu
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>>4769833
How many people can Lugh take with him?
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>>4769839
I'm not worried about the lone servant. I'm worried about Manaka pulling another surprise like the Potnia Theron empowered tide.
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Wow we must have really pissed off Manaka by taking her Saber. She summoned Enkidu then used tidal waves worth of grail mud.

On a scale of 1-10 how pissed is she?
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>>4769836
He can.

>>4769840
Technically... as many people as he wants.
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>>4769842
solid 8
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>>4769842
I assume she would have summoned Enkidu anyway, he was her plan to kill Gil who worried her. But taking her favorite toy AND interfering with her masterful trap probably did piss her off somewhat.
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If Lugh can take three people then I think it works out. I don't think we need to take Chiyome with us, if we have Sakura with us then there's no point, we do need firepower though so why not take Scathach since she's made for combat or Medusa cause Three Faces hax
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>Under her Hanafuda skill-set, she possesses three Noble Phantasm skills, Potnia Theron: Monster Princess (怪獣王女, Kaijū Ōjo?), Gomorrah's Blaze: Burning Holy City (聖都炎上, Seito Enjō?), and Sodom's Fall: Holy City's Fall (聖都陥落, Seito Kanraku?).
From the wiki. She definitely has more cards up her sleeve than Potnia Theron, even disregarding her usual omnipotence.
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>>4769849
We need Chiyome for cursecondoms if we're rooting around in mudded Servants concept shit.
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Actually, maybe it's not the best idea to rely on Sakura, God said we need to purge Grail mud didn’t he? Sakura basically eats it and that's not the same, maybe we should send her back and take Chiyome with us and flip a coin with either Scathach or Medusa for a fighter
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Ok so how about this then, Lugh, Chiyome, Scathach and us, it covers us as much as possible
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>>4769858
He said we should research a way to do that after we deal with the False Beast and those who oppose him and before we storm the temple. I don't think it's something we should be worrying about right now.
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>>4769858
Take Medusa. If Merlin suddenly appears we'll have the gnoming ready.
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>>4769861
Thats fine. Medusa can go with Sakura/her Master.
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Curious about something can karna still cover us in the forest? If we split up the group we should have him cover both groups if he can.
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>>4769866
Really good point, Karna can cover us still, if things are getting too hot though, he should gtfo or Ciel can command seal him
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Who's going to get Nero? I think we should take someone with us for that. Or are we shoving it to Sakura.

Nero could probably convince Sakura to become harem manager.
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There's not much voting going on here.
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>>4769861
>>4769813
This is my vote
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>>4769877
Just to clarify, this is the "who we keep and who we send back to the mansion" subvote since we're already going far north, right?
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>>4769861
>>4769813
Sure, support. Speed.

Others can go home? Don't want Manaka to ambush someone at home.
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Karna doesn't have to worry about Nega Deity, the Argonauts might be here too so it's worth mentally messaging Medea to ask about that while in transit, no?
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>>4769877
Come back in an hour
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>>4769887
Yes.
>>4769889
Are you just going to make a long-plan write-in?
Should I wait for that?
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>>4769889
You should have come online before the real vote was called, none of us thought of this. But I assume she would have told us if the Argonauts had gotten eaten by the tide.
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>>4769813
>Ride Lugh, bring Chiyome (Forma de Presence Conceal piggyback) and Poopschute
>Ask Medea about a qrd on events while we were out, e.g. Argonauts progress or anything she feels is more pressing
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>>4769893
Wait, a write-in with extra stuff is cool even in subvotes like this?
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>>4769898
So long as it doesn't invalidate the original vote, why not?
Also I am dreading having to write out all the Argonaut's Stat Pages.
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>>4769893
no i'm toning it down for now because I technically already missed the real vote.

Would have had the main party continue due north with us but engage the two dots that we'll be bypassing to get to the fading dot, then circle back to them and scoop up all 3, and maybe had Gil/Enkidu go east after the third. Leave the one fleeing near Manaka because that digs a deeper hole.

>>4769900
Want me to start copypasting fgo stats over on a pastebin as a base? Kill off whatever you want or change them around but it might save you time.
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>>4769888
Changing from this to
>>4769896
>>4769813
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>>4769896
Why bring only these people with us? We're spent, personally. Are we really that confident of Scathach, Chiyome and Lugh dealing with anything that might happen? Even after we got blindsided by that wave?

>>4769900
Dunno, just checking.
And I hope you're writing their normal charsheets, not Argonauts Alter.
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>>4769909
Because they're fading out and we can CS allies in if we need it. Was going for speed so we can evade the other two in the way while also ensuring we get there before they fade out. Scat won't let her only way to die just disappear on her, she'll step in.
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Bring someone to contract with Nero. Shinji can't do it, Rin can't maybe Sakura can do it.
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>>4769901
That would be fairly helpful, I suppose.
Conveniently, the Argo will only end up summoning Argonauts who actually exist as Servants, because there are like 90 of them in myth.
No Heracles either.
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>>4769913
I'm not worried about her deciding to step in. I'm worried about whether she'll be enough to deal with the next bullshit thing to come our way.

Also, just realised. Wave might have blown away Merlin's flowers. We should ask Medea to scry and check, just in case. It would make things so much easier for us.
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>>4769909
Also when it's this small manoeuvring around grail mud is easier. Lugh is already jacked to the tits and now he's buffed by Bellephron.

>>4769916
Good point, but we can have Medea just teleport them to the house and put them on mana infusion life support until Rin etc are awake. Unless you wanna bring Aoko too? Double GROOMER entourage
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Well whatever you end up deciding, I'm gonna start writing in 16 minutes.
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>>4769920
I hope she'll have enough independent thought to mention this without asking

Am I adding Aoko too so we have a master for the fading servant or are we taking them back to Rin's house via Medea's teleporting?

Because I'll start writing up pastebins for WhatIs otherwise
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>>4769909
>Argonauts Alter
After her bullshit in Russia, all Atalanta Alter deserves is suffering.
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Or is Touko here?

Her and poopchute can chat about runes, not dying when killed and grooming/training blue haired young boys with absurd potential together
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>>4769921
>but we can have Medea just teleport them to the house
Last we checked, she couldn't teleport due to the forest being covered in Merlin's flowers. We really, really should ask her to check first if we're counting on her teleporting.
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>>4769929
Touko passed out from OBEY SUFFER OBEY SUFFER. Only potential masters with us are Sakura and Aoko.
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>>4769931
mk so Aoko it is, but she has shit mana reserves. Lucky Billy is cheap, but it'll have to be very temporary if it's Nero and her ME and some flames of rome mana burst passive or something causes her to chug mana
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If we really need to contract them Right Now so they are on life support, just have Suzuka incarnate meanwhile.
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>>4769937
Better plan honestly as Medea can be CS'd to us if locating the origin point for the teleport is too hard. She can teleport out just fine.
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>>4769937
Not a permanent solution but until Lugh carries us home.
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>>4769936
Why not Sakura? Touko has Billy. Wait, are you mixing up the sisters?
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>>4769928
what bullshit.
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>>4769813
changing
>>4769896

to

>Ask Suzuka to incarnate herself with Self Determination as the mana drain outside INS is starting to become a real issue for your body to handle and she's the most able to function independently
>Ride Lugh, bring Chiyome (Forma de Presence Conceal piggyback), Aoko and Poopschute
>Ask Medea about a qrd on events while we were out, e.g. Argonauts progress or anything she feels is more pressing

covers both bases for extra master + freeing up mana reserves for use of Truth if we get mogged en route
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Switching from
>>4769902
To
>>4769948
>>4769813
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>>4769813
Switching >>4769823 to
>Ask Suzuka to incarnate herself with Self Determination as the mana drain outside INS is starting to become a real issue for your body to handle and she's the most able to function independently
>Ride Lugh, bring Chiyome (Forma de Presence Conceal piggyback), Poopschute and Aoko
>Ask Medea about a qrd on events while we were out, e.g. Argonauts progress or anything she feels is more pressing
>Also ask her to try scrying the forest to check if Merlin's interference was washed away.

>She can teleport out just fine.
We do not know that. We had Alitheia move out the forest for Medea to tp, and then it was Gil's portals that worked.
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>>4769945
Pretty sure she betrays the Counter Force that actually summoned her for the sake of the doomed race of furfags.
Even if saving that world would for some reason erase her from existence, which is weird considering the divergence point.
Why the fuck was she even summoned in the first place.
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>>4769944
probably yes
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>>4769961
Touko is Shishou and she's back home. Aoko is Shiki's groomer and she's with us.
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>>4769813
>>4769948
Support
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>>4769967
I only mixed up the contract with Billy, I can tell the Aozakis apart I hope
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>>4769959
>She confesses she knew the Lostbelt would have to disappear, but the rebels knew this already. Every night they heard her crying, trying to muffle her sobs so they wouldn’t hear.
Wow qm. Didn't know you were so heartless.
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>>4769977
This is why the Counter Force uses jannies instead of useless cats.
Even if the Lostbelt didn't have to disappear it was basically one hundred percent fucked anyway.
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>>4769982
Ok, but how is this her fault? She's not a counter guardian, she has no obligation to the counter force, why was she even summoned? Why does she deserve suffering?
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>>4769982
It's like the equivelant of breaking down in tears because you're going to undo the "Nazi Germany Wins" Alternate Future, but at least in that alternate future humanity haven't all turned into cannibal furries because everyone else froze to death.
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Why is the CF into Alters? First Okita Alter and EMIYA Alter maybe jannie in Seraphix, now this?
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>>4769985
>Why was she even summoned.
Because FGO has bad writing and the Counter Force forgot it could summon Counter Guardians, I guess.
Maybe they'd be too effective at fixing shit.
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>>4769974
Nice save. Let's say I believe you and move on.

Unrelated Sakura just because I have no better image to respond to yours and we're sending her off to protect our home from any waves that might be sent that way.

>>4769987
Even normal Atalante raged hard when Jeanne put the suffering souls of the child murderers to rest. She is not the most stable of individuals.
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>>4769991
Alter's are predisposed to losing their idealism and adopting a more murdery version of their philosophies, which gels with the general ethos of counter jannies as soulless executioners of threats to humanity.
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Speaking of Atalante I'm doing her sheet first and it's actually a real fucking pain. Tauropolos, her Bow is never ranked. But I remember it lets her pull a long draw charged shot and shoot A Rank level basic attacks
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>>4769991
its because they're black and Alaya needs slaves
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>>4769928
>>4770006
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So is the vote gonna ever be called?
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>>4769924
>>4770032
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>>4770032
I'm writing now.
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>>4770041
Hurry
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>>4769996
>Sakura as a High School teacher.
What would Sakura's occupation be in OG Fate anyway when she becomes an adult? I could see it being different depending on the route Shirou was on.
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>>4769992
Isn't that literally the reason why? Counter Force always does the bare minimum and when shit is already completely fucked, it wouldn't send anyone until half the world is engulfed by the Grail mud for example and it keeps sending Grand Servants that have to give up their title to win
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>>4770046
Sakura doesn’t need a job, none of them need jobs, they're rich and can live off their inheritance, except Rin
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Someone wanna check over the cat?

Her mats are all over the place so she was very annoying to stat up.

https://pastebin.com/pZF3Utfz
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>>4770046
I don't really see her working on any of the routes. Depending on the route, I'd assume:
>Fate
No clue. Shinji's dead, Zouken's plans are in shambles. Not a happy life for sure.
>UBW
Shinji's wife. Zouken's plan for the 6th War is on track. Not a happy life for sure.
>HF
Happy housewife and mother. Remember, Shirou is filthy rich from Kiritsugu's inheritance.
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>>4770046
Pest inspector?
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>>4770046
Sakura is for breeding only.
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>>4770059
Pest Inspection Day
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If Sakura isn't gonna work she can just learn Magecraft, pretty sure Rin teaches her in HF Normal End since she sends her children or grandchildren to learn from her
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>>4770060
We should do to her like the Indians in bone tomahawk did to their women.
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>>4770054
What do you need, exactly? Cross check for transcription errors?

>>4770060
Truer words have never been spoken.

>>4770067
She certainly doesn't need to work when she'll be married to literally the richest man on the planet. And yeah, we can teach her. I think I'd proposed teaching her during the last timeskip vote, but we ended up not doing it. Or I might be remembering wrong and I didn't end up proposing it at all.
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>>4770072
We shouldn't be teaching her since we're neither a teacher nor dowe share any affinities with her.
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>>4770072
Just if any cat aficionados think I may have missed something. Her golden apple and big dipper NPs were scrapped in development and never really listed so I omitted them. Seeing as I'm assuming she is summoned as an Archer she won't be able to just take the pelt off and revert like she can if summoned as Berserker so I implied it was permanent.

This was significantly easier to whip up.

https://pastebin.com/8inJ8qXT
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>>4770071
That would be mean, and wouldn't work anyways.
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>>4770094
Why not?
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>>4770072
Speaking of teaching people we also promised to teach Satsuki magecraft and we forgotten about it.
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>>4770097
regeneration
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>>4770098
No, it's just been under 24 hours since we made that promise.
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>>4770099
She can regenerate as well?
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>>4770072
Tf kinda hellspawn is gonna come out from us and Sakura, might not even need magecraft

>>4770078
Paracelsus can teach her, he loves teaching people and being studious
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>>4770078
We plan to train Miyako and Abby anyway, so we'll certainly dabble on teaching. I imagine we won't leave our other children without our tutelage either. Sakura would certainly enjoy the lessons and apply herself much, much more if she learned from us instead of anyone else imaginable. And she'd be a great student for us to practice teaching as well. Affinities don't really matter, we don't share Touko's affinities either. And I think what Zouken did to her made her more compatible with the Matou magecraft too.

>>4770090
As a cat aficionado, I think she looks good. I see her NP stat as a C instead of a B+, but that's minor.

>>4770098
I had completely forgotten about that, yes. Poor Satsuki, cursed to always be forgotten.

>>4770105
The most beautiful hellspawn.
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>>4770106
That's what the mats say for some stupid reason. NP stat never matches the actual NPs of characters

The second link is Asclepius
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>>4770103
Sakura has always been able to regenerate, before getting access to Seven Grails worth of energy and potentially Self-Modification: EX.
Hell, she regenerated from being cut in half by Gate of Babylon.
It's how she managed to vore Gilgamesh in HF.
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>>4770112
I always just set the NP stat as the highest rank of the NP that the Servant possesses.
If you want to have a brain haemorrhage, check out Perseus' parameters.
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>>4770103
Yes but you're missing the point.
Sakura isn't just a breeding machine, she's a breeding machine that you can take on dates and walk in the park with.
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>>4770117
Oh actually, it's not TOO bad, you can kinda piece together the NPs, I think I did somewhere for something else I was doing
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>>4770071
What did they do
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>>4770128
I think my favourite part about Perseus' sheet is his E+ Endurance.
You could probably kill him by sneezing too hard.
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https://pastebin.com/eq9iS81s

Tranny's stat sheet.

I'd imagine actually using Poseidon Maelstrom kills her by overloading what the servant container can handle from the Divine Core
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>>4770134
Put stakes in their eyes, cut off their tongues and removed their limbs so they just laid there to get fucked and produce children.
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>>4770138
Makes sense, he didn’t beat Gorgon through strength or a one v one, he defeated her through trickery and hax
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>>4770142
gee percy why do the gods let you have FIVE Noble Phatasms?
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>>4770139
I thought she only got that because of Lostbelt bullshit.
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>>4770112
Sclep looks good

>>4770139
Nothing wrong with that thing either.

>>4770140
Jeez Batman. What the actual fuck?
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>>4770145
Nah, Poseidon simped to Caenis so hard in myth he gave her his Trident, Divine Core and access to his Authorities. He's absolutely pathetic
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SA, it's a really good movie.
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>>4770140
What the fuuuuuuuuuck
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>>4770149
ZETE is a chad rapist and Hades is king oneitis for Persephone and lives in his neet cave with his dog whose name translates to "spot"
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>>4770145
Also she doesn't actually have access to Poseidon Maelstrom in the LB if that helps appease you, it's just a secret mat skill that FGO lists but never uses
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>>4770149
>He's absolutely pathetic
Worst of the three brothers by far. Zeus was an unapologetic rapist. Hades only kidnapped one woman. Poseidon both couldn't keep it in his pants AND kept feeling bad about it.
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>>4770055
Actually UBW would have Zouken dead via Gil and the Grail undone by Rin.
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>>4770148
Some people's minds go to dark places when they hear "breeding only".
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>>4770149
Then based Drake killed him
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>>4770163
Twice.
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>>4770163
Imagine being such a jobber that you get beaten by fucking Drake of all people.
Did we ever get an actual reason for Drake being a woman? Or are we still stuck on the Elizabeth I theory?
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Genuinely shocked that Drake won't be apart of this quest considering that she's Extra Shinji's servant, almost seems like a missed opportunity
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>>4770167
Stop character baiting.
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>>4770167
What's that?
Did I hear MORE SERVANTS?
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>>4770160
I would very much like to believe the "Gil killed wormpa" theory, but I'm not sure I do. Not enough evidence that he did. And did Kirei deal with her worms there too?

As for the Grail undone by Rin, we don't know the full story yet, do we?
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>>4770174
>>4770171
NO WE HAVE ENOUGH, just seems like she would’ve been an easy first choice considering the connection
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>>4770166
>Did we ever get an actual reason for Drake being a woman?
No, she is just a woman.
>Or are we still stuck on the Elizabeth I theory?
They dropped this plot point after Extra and never talked about it again.
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>>4770166
Lizzie cosplaying and then actually had to stay as Drake after getting that nasty scar on her face. Meaning the current royals in Fate/ are even more of a sham because it was literally just Lizzie's stunt double who took up her place
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>>4770177
>They dropped this plot point after Extra and never talked about it again.
Shame, it would've been a good excuse.
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>>4770166
Her being Queen Elizabeth wasn't mentioned again so ig it was dropped. Drake is pretty strong though
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>>4770178
>Meaning the current royals in Fate/ are even more of a sham because it was literally just Lizzie's stunt double who took up her place
Queen Elizabeth I had no children anyway.
She was the end of the Tudor line.
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>>4770185
The British royal line has been foreign for a while now. Mordred's claim is so much better than that of the current German pretenders.
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>>4770181
They kinda stopped using excuses for genderbending
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>>4770196
Which fucking sucks.
I loved the mental gymnastics.
Instead of "OH WELL SOMETIMES HISTORY WASN'T RECORDED PROPERLY."
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>>4770196
>King Arthur is a woman, lol
>Emperor Nero is also a woman, and a clone of King Arthur, lol. Also, dindunuffin.
As if they ever needed an excuse.
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>>4770185
So you are britbongistani then?

Here is a potentially contentious one. The wife at age 14 https://pastebin.com/4eyH3fBV

I included a surprise
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>>4770201
>So you are britbongistani then?
who knows?
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>>4770201
Heh. We know Jason doesn't get his own Medea though. She's ours.

>>4770203
Keep evading if you want, but at least you can no longer say no one has guessed correctly.
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>>4770200
At least there, they made an althistory excuse instead of "lol Attila the Hun was actually a girl and every artist and historian collectively hallucinated that she was a dude."
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>>4770200
I'm pretty sure that Nero is supposed to be Arturia's ancestor.
Which means those Saberface genes are fucking strong.
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>>4770206
This one is actually much more unstable

>>4770210
Nero's only child, her daughter Claudia Augusta died like 4 months after her birth iirc
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>>4770212
>Nero's only child, her daughter Claudia Augusta died like 4 months after her birth iirc
Shhhhhhhh just let it happen.
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Genuinely I'm half expecting Augustus to be a Saberface
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>>4770214
Are you keeping Medea Lily's secret NP?
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>>4770212
She is? I thought she was a sweet kid before Aphrodite's curse twisted her.

>>4770214
When in doubt, blame Merlin. He could have easily given Nero a dick and took the secret child to England so he could start grooming the bloodline from early on.
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>>4770218
Fuck it, why not.
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>>4770220
>She is? I thought she was a sweet kid before Aphrodite's curse twisted her.
Medea Lily HAS the curse on her though.
So she's still in full "Cut my brother into pieces to distract my dad." mode, from what I gather.
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>>4770221
Wait, Jason does get his own Medea? With the cursed skill? What the fuck, why are you such a sadist for our evil witch wife?

>>4770224
True enough. But that's good for Jason, not bad.
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>>4770226
It would be good for Jason if there wasn't somebody around who could break any curse with a touch.
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>>4770226
We can simply remove the curse, we can do that
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>>4770226
Medea Lily a cute mental illness https://chaldeum.wordpress.com/servant/caster067/caster067_interlude02/
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>>4770231
Still, I would prefer if there aren't two Medeas around. Pretty easy to explain. Didn't you say earlier that there would be no second Heracles either?
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I'd like Medea Lily to be like Medusa with her Three Faces
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>>4770239
>Didn't you say earlier that there would be no second Heracles either?
This is more to do with Jason respecting Alcides' wishes than anything else.
Also he doesn't want to watch Heracles murder himself.
Don't you want Chiyome to purge Medea Lily from ever being summoned with that curse again?
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>>4770242
Damn we're gonna have to punch the shit out of Jason again aren’t we?
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https://ff.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/myd43l/fateempire_of_dirt_unofficial_english_translation/

If anyone wants to play the coomer RPG
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>>4770235
ngl, that was pretty funny. But

>Dr Roman
>Finally, I feel like I have a better opinion of Jason now…
>Dr Roman
>It’s really something to change a bubbly, airy girl like that to such a… realistic woman.
What the ACTUAL fuck?

I also find it funny that it's noted that Medea didn't know how to make pancakes, but when she cooked for us we asked her to make THE most touristy fast food imaginable, which also did not exist in her time.

>>4770242
You drive a hard bargain, sir. Fine, I'll allow it. I imagine Medea, our Medea, not the other one, will have some pretty complicated feelings about this.

>>4770245
He deserves it.
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>>4770250
Imagine getting cucked by your past self
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>>4770250
>What the ACTUAL fuck?
Please understand, Solomon is even more autistic than his autistic son.
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>>4770257
God picks the most autistic manwhores as his heralds
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"OK, first, before anything else, Suzuka, I'm going to need you to use your Determination of Self to incarnate yourself, at least temporarily. I need you able to produce your own magical energy for now. I'm a powerful magus, but right now, five Servants is just a little too much for me." Honestly, you think it's only because Betty is currently asleep that you aren't being drained rapidly of your magical energy.

"Oh... Alright then, but... the contract won't be broken just from me becoming alive. I just won't need your magical energy anymore. We'll still be able to communicate through the mental link too, actually. In fact, the only real changes will be made to my body, I won't be as durable as I was as a Servant with a living body, though I suppose with my abilities, that's not really a problem..." Suzuka begins to muse to herself about her abilities, and the good news is that even if she is able to act as a human, it doesn't look as if she wants to end the contract of Master and Servant with you. You don't particularly know if such a thing is really supposed to be possible, but you suppose that with her Self-Determination, Suzuka made it possible.

"Well, that's good." Suzuka's abilities are just completely busted at this point, honestly. Even if her destructive output isn't the greatest with how far she's willing to take her abilities, even her ability to copy Mystic Eyes alone is something that can quickly become completely broken. Not to mention if she was actually willing to use Determination of Self to transform into other people, she would be able to ensure her own victory simply by transforming into a version of her enemy that could regenerate from damage. Although, it seems that as a result of her current mentality, she's not really the sort of person who would ever rely on such a tactic, even if it would mean death, and trying to use a Command Spell to force her into it would spell death for her Master instead. You suppose that it might be possible to get her to agree to use the skill to its fullest extent if you were to do something ridiculous like confess to her right before asking her to use it, but it's really not the sort of ability that she could be forced into using. Ever. That's just what Self-Determination has done to her. Seeing as it seems that your changes may actually affect the Throne, you're starting to wonder just what sort of effects that your changes are going to have on summonings of the Servants you have changed in other timelines. It's probably nothing you need to worry about... Probably.
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You look over to Lugh, who is still in his wolf form, still wearing the riding equipment. Either he's taken a liking to the equipment, or he's waiting for you to actually ride him again. Of course, you actually are planning on riding him now anyway. You walk over to the wolf and leap onto his back. "Chiyome, use your Presence Concealment and ride behind me. Aoko, Scáthach, I want you to come with me as well." Depending on what you find, Aoko will be able to function as a Master. That is, if what you find is a Servant willing to become an ally... Actually, now that you think about it, Scáthach should be able to function as an ally as well.

"I'm... a little opposed to the idea of riding on Lugh's back..." Aoko looks at the boy with a complicated expression. "We have... something of a history." Yes, the history of once almost being murdered by the wolf despite all of your power. How unlike Aoko, to seemingly hold something of a grudge towards Lugh. Then again, you suppose it's probably not really a grudge, and more just feeling generally uncomfortable.

"Can you please just put it aside for now then? Aoko, the fate of all reality is still at stake here." You cross your arms as you look at the woman sternly, and she just looks down at the floor, slightly ashamed. You feel a little bad for Aoko, but you don't say anything else. If Shiki was still here, you imagine he'd be able to make her feel better. You know, now that you think about it, you wonder how the rest of your allies that couldn't resist Orochi's curse are doing back at home. Chiyome should've at least purged them all of any lasting effects, and if she didn't, then erasing Orochi definitely would have. Well, you say erase... You put your hand in your pocket, and the tiny snake within it nuzzles your hand. Huh... It managed to survive the Land of Shadows too? You had almost completely forgotten about it, but you're glad that it's OK.

"Fine." She doesn't exactly sound happy about the idea of riding on the back of the wolf boy, but she joins you. Scáthach also wordlessly joins you, not having much to say about Lugh, but still being very obviously curious about the wolf. It's no surprise, when it comes to Phantasmal Beasts, it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to call Lugh something superior to even Fenrir. While his actual destructive power isn't huge like it is for some Servants, his powers mean he would still almost certainly dominate even the mightiest of Servants in battle. His one defeat was earned thanks to his own mind working against him. There's no doubt about it, Lugh is immensely powerful. In fact, with Bellerophon increasing his powers, he might even be a match for Arcueid herself!
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"Everyone else, you should return to Rin's home, at least for now. When I get back, we'll return to my home, it's larger and should be able to accommodate everyone here quite comfortably." Honestly, your group is getting pretty ridiculously huge now, and you've not even stopped recruiting people yet either! "Sakura... Stay safe." If you weren't already on Lugh right now, you'd probably kiss her goodbye. "Now, Lugh, let's go!" You call to the wolf you're riding, and begin to travel north quite rapidly. You briefly consider checking out the other group, but instead you decide it's not worth it.

As you rapidly ride Lugh north at a speed twice exceeding sound, talking to your allies on Lugh is quite impossible, however, you can speak to somebody else. 'Medea, can you give me a quick rundown on events that have been happening since I was gone? How's the summoning of the Argonauts going?' The Argonauts are going to be of somewhat... dubious usage against somebody as powerful as Manaka with the full authority of Potnia Theron on her side. That pulse of enhanced grail mud would've been enough to erase and consume any Servant that it touched immediately, and you can only hope that Waver's group managed to get out of the forest in time.

'There have been a few more lights on the Argo since you left, I believe that at least four or five new Servants have been summoned already. I... haven't really been paying that much attention to him.' Completely understandable. 'As for events elsewhere, there were a few clashes between some of the other lights within the city, but the fight was too mobile for me to properly track, I only managed to catch brief glimpses of a blue spear and a black spear crossing with each other before they disappeared out of view. They were really tremendously quick.' Could Lancer and Aife be going at each other already? That's not good, but you suppose that it ended inconclusively, so it's not really a problem... right? Somehow, you feel like Alan is the sort of person who won't let Aife defeat Lancer, but at the same time, won't let her die either. You spare a thought for poor Second Rider. Sure, Alan and Nyarlathotep have only ever been affable when it comes to you, but you can only imagine just what sort of treatment that Aife is receiving from him. Considering that she's not somebody that he considers some sort of potential equal or whatever he thinks about you. You feel bad for Aife. Though you recall that she hurt the Einzbern maids... Then again, she could have killed them and didn't so you can't dislike her that much for what she did.
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Eventually, you're brought away from your thoughts upon seeing a few figures in the distance, and you spur Lugh to speed. The figures don't really make much of a response to your arrival. Two of them are wearing white robes, one sitting on the floor slightly hunched over while the third, a much smaller figure, is trying to help them to their feet. The third meanwhile is laying face down on the floor wearing what seems to be a gold and red armored dress that exposes way too much skin. "Oh great, it's you again." You recognize the voice of the man sitting on the floor, and you almost freeze. You look down at the man wearing the white cloak, and notice a large red stain around a very obvious piercing wound.

"Merlin?" You look down at the man, who makes no effort to refute you, and instead he pulls down his white hood.

"That's right, in the flesh... Sort of." He coughs. "Damn it..." On closer inspection, there seems to be some dark magic crackling around the wound he's been dealt. A cursed wound? "You've probably got a lot of questions to ask me, so, ask away. You probably won't like hearing half of my answers though..."

>"Why did you block scrying in the forest?"
>"How did you get hurt like that?"
>"Where are Waver and the others?"
>"What do you want?"
>"Shouldn't you be helping me?"
>"What's with the other Servant laying face down on the floor?"
>Write-in...
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>>4770285
Shouldn't you be helping me?"also make fun of him
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>>4770274
>Aoko looks at the boy with a complicated expression. "We have... something of a history."
Didn't Lugh start following around Aoko and her friends after big dick Shizuki kicked his ass and Touko threw him away?
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>>4770285
>Is anyone in danger of dying right now?
>WHERE IS NERO YOU FUCKING FUTAMANCER FUCK. EVERYTHING ELSE CAN WAIT.
>Ask everything in order if we're too late and Nero is dead. Offer healing.
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>>4770285
>>"Shouldn't you be helping me?"
>>"Where are Waver, Olga and the others?"
I know we wanna threaten him and turn him into a garden gnome but this has really been bugging me, what's his deal? I thought we could be bros
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>>4770295
To clarify, offer healing to everyone OTHER than Merlin if he really let Nero die.
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>>4770285

>"Shouldn't you be helping me? I'm on your side aren't I you deranged Incubus!"
>Is Nero still alive?

Then question barrage

>Heal Merlin's wound
>"How did you get hurt like that?"
>"Why did you block scrying in the forest?"
>"Where are Waver and the others?"
>"What do you want?"
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>>4770291
There are some differences in the timeline here.
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>>4770299
Support.
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Dioscuri https://pastebin.com/dAv19Rh1

Theseus doesn't have Fate stats so I'll leave that to WhatIs so I'm not hijacking character development.
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Seems kinda bad that Grand Caster is hurt

>>4770299
We should heal him only after he answers but we should ask if the wounds are gonna kill him if we leave them there for too long, don't want him teleporting away
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>>4770277
>>4770283
WhatIs....uhhh. Thats the same post. Presumably the repost was to fix a formatting error. Also

>>4770285
>>4770299
Support
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>>4770302
Is this the last one for today?
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>>4770309
It's a show of goodwill. It's the Saver way
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>>4770311
Yes.
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>>4770313
Fuck the Saver way, if he really let Nero die this is all his fault.
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>>4770317
the implication is we deal with Nero before the talk/healing of dickman
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>>4770320
Yeah, but there has to be a conditional. If Nero alive -> dash off right the fuck now. If Nero dead -> Fuck Merlin and fuck his wound.
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>>4770317
Servants tend to dematerialize immediately after dying.

>>4770302
In this timeline, Lugh went on a solo autism adventure instead of sticking around after he got BTFO by wobbly punches.
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>>4770285
changing

>>4770299
to
>"Shouldn't you be helping me? I'm on your side aren't I you deranged Incubus!"
>Is Nero still alive?

If Y
>Heal Merlin's wound
>"How did you get hurt like that?"
>"Why did you block scrying in the forest?"
>"Where are Waver and the others?"
>"What do you want?"

If N or very close to N
>Remove your teleport/scry blocking protections from this site imemediately or we'll have a complete Beast 666 and an Apocalypse on our hands you idiot!
>Have Medea teleport us and Nero to the Argo, give Assclap the patient. He can revive her with his scuffed no Gorgon blood NP if this just happened.
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>>4770285
Switch >>4770295 to
>Ignore Merlin for a moment. Heal the lying down Nero RIGHT THE FUCK NOW. Offer her to contract with Aoko.
>"Shouldn't you be helping me? I'm on your side aren't I you deranged Incubus!"
>Heal Merlin's wound
>"How did you get hurt like that?"
>"Why did you block scrying in the forest?"
>"Where are Waver and the others?"
>"What do you want?"

Alright, Nero's alive. Barely. Futamancer can live for now.


>>4770325
>Servants tend to dematerialize immediately after dying.
Ohhhh, fuck, I did not pay attention to the description. Nero's right there!
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Thrice Setting Sun + Undying Magus, Nero doesn't die when killed btw.
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>>4770308
How many argonauts are going to be summoned? I thought those that are in fgo are the only ones being summoned.
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>>4770334
Every pastebin I did is it.

Atalante, Medea Lily (maybe), Caenis, Dioscuri, Assclap. Theseus technically exists in Fate/ but not as a servant in full detail yet, but he has heavy characterisation. Meleager too through Atalante
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>>4770332
If we heal Nero right away you're going to risk yet another romantic conflict silly.
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>>4770337
Medea said four or five new dots, so those should be it. Sans Theseus.
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>>4770339
Dioscuri are two/one dot due to their shared Saint Graph
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Place your bets folks, will Merlin be able to talk his way out of this one?

>Ignore Merlin for a moment. Heal the lying down Nero RIGHT THE FUCK NOW. Offer her to contract with Aoko.
Are you absolutely certain this is a good idea.
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>>4770338
We've already decided we're recruiting her. I'd rather not risk her dying immediately, but I see your point. In any case, asking Merlin if she's alive is pointless when we can see her. We should ask him if she's in danger of dying soon.

>>4770341
No Medea Lily either then.
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>>4770343
>Are you absolutely certain this is a good idea.
Fine, fine. I'll switch to the Nigger's final write in that I'm sure is coming.

As for my bet, I'm giving garden gnoming much, much better odds than I did before we left grandpa's casa. He's lucky we didn't bring Medusa with us. There is absolutely no way he escapes the berating though.
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I suppose I should reveal some of BERSERKERs character sheet before I go to bed, give me a second to find it...
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>>4770337
Oh ok i thought theseus was going to be summoned and got my hopes up.
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>>4770344
Merlin + Olga I imagine + Nero are here currently.

If Nero isn't fading out she's fine because of all her cockroach skills but if Merlin mentions something bad we know the Doctor is more than likely in the house and that his instant use NP can keep her stable enough to stop her being gobbled up by Manaka.

I wonder what shanked him? Maybe Deermuid?

This could all be another illusion with merlin though which is another reason why I'm option for an earlier heal, to show our intentions and we don't know if he'll actually die from this. Do you really want to risk him dying to the bleed/curse damage and being BLACKED?

Alternatively we could send Chiyome to stabilise Merlin while we whisk Nero away if need be?
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Status Updated!
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>>4770358
No, no, no, I now agree with everything except with
>Is Nero still alive?
since we can see she's still alive. We should ask if she's in danger of dying, just to make absolutely sure, before healing and interrogating Merlin.
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>Madness Enhancement: EX
>A skill representing the insanity of the Emperor Nero. While she maintains enough mental stability to appear to be possible to converse with, actual negotiation is impossible. Her Parameters have been massively ranked up as a result of this skill.

Shiiiiiiiit. We shouldn't have sent Sakura away.
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>>4770285

changing

>>4770327

to
>Scathatch, are you able to bind the fallen servant over there in a runic prison or something? Lugh, Aoko stay on guard, don't kill her but she needs to be restrained if she tries getting up.
>Merlin, shouldn't you be helping me? I'm on your side aren't I you deranged Incubus!
>What happened between you and Nero? Is her condition stable? You must know what happens if she were to die and her spirit origin was collected by Manaka don't you?

>Heal Merlin's wound
>"How did you get hurt like that?"
>"Why did you block scrying in the forest?"
>"Where are Waver and the others?"
>"What do you want?"
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>>4770369
Medea can remove her madness
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>>4770285
Switching >>4770332 to support >>4770378

That covers everything.
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>>4770285
>>4770378
Support
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>>4770285
I’ll support >>4770378
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>>4770285
Switching from >>4770306 to supporting >>4770378

\
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>Merlin
We were so close to finish the plan.
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>>4770337
Charlotte a cute! But also impossible since nu-Argonauts
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>>4770366
last post for tonight?
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>>4770474
>>4770316
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>>4770285
>>4770378
Sounds good
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>>4770285
>>4770310
Changing to >>4770378
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>>4770285

>>4770378 supporting this
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Memelin need concept of Unthinkable
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>>4770603
concept of CBT
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>>4770633
hektor deserves better than this kind of death. To die to one of the shitsisters is horrible
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>>4770633
>>4770645
Stheno and Euryale deserve to be raped by Shinji and Shiki
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>>4770648
>sticking your dick in emotionally manipulative and familialy abusive literal garbage

Your hand can do better than the two of them together
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>>4770652
Ok, Cu can has his barbed way with them
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So what do you want to do when you return home anyway?
You have a few days to stop Manaka, so are you going to spend some time relaxing/preparing?
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>>4770724
Eat, sleep, COOM
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>>4770724
Coom, sleep and eat
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>>4770724
Time to bring together the Caster Team and throw ideas at them to see what they can do. A few days of training probably wont do anything.
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>>4770724
Concepts, dragon blood, ask Rin to let us use her hyperbolic time chamber to train
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>>4770730
Yes, definitely dragonblood, ideally having Caster Team look at it if they can refine the plan.
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>>4770727
Can you really blame Medea Lily though?
Demon Pillars look delicious.
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>>4770724
>>4770727
Support

Tomorrow is a day of rest. Only critical stuff will be done, like fixing Kerry and making absolutely certain Illya is fine. We also promised Vritra food and dancing girls, we'd better deliver with a "We killed grandpa" celebration. Everyone could use a break I think.

The other days will be spent furiously preparing to kick Manaka's teeth in.
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>>4770724
Eat, lose our virginity with Medea and Sakura, sleep, put Kerry back in his body.
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>>4770724
Tell Medea we confessed to Sakura
Suffer as she cries
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>>4770732
Gotta duel Scathach too
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>>4770740
Uh obviously we'll just bring em together in a room and tell them we love them both equally and that we have so much love to give it wouldn't be fair for us to choose a single woman.
Then we make them watch as Mordred takes our virginity.
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>>4770746
Support
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>>4770746
This but Sacchin
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Jesus, our faction is unfathomably large now.
We need to make a list of shit to do.
We need Scath to train the four horsemen.
We need to go on a few dates.
We need to seduce our adoptive elder sister, and also rescue her.
We need to make all our daughters get along.
We need to find out about snake daughter.
We need to bully Medusa's Sisters.
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>>4770724
anyways let's see...

>Dealterify Iskandar and hand him off to Waver
>Recover Cu, Bazett and Monica
>Thank all the allies for their part in taking down Orochi/Zolgen, making sure none of them feel inadequate because they didn't get to show off, their commitment alone was valuable already
>Check on Illya
>Reconstitute Kiritsugu
>Introduce Scathach to our immortal friends
>Introduce Scathach to Touko
>Pancakes for the daughters
>Look for Amethyst
>Examine the fox cub (I'm assuming Tamamo brought him someplace safe somehow)
>Discuss Servant incarnation with the Casters and magi
>Discuss Oni population with the relevant parties (Shuten, Ibaraki and her Master, Nobunaga, maybe call Akiha?)
>Spar with Miyako
>Research spatial transference and bounded fields so we have more ways of stopping it from being weaponized against us than just Gil's bracelet


at some point I guess we'll sleep and
>Discuss EMIYA and Vritra with Alaya

I'm sure I forgot something important, I always do...
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>>4770751
Oh and we should tell Kerry we can give him Iri back.
We can do that right?
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>>4770752
pet the snek
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>>4770746
>>4770749
>>4770750
Yeah, we definitely need to talk with them too
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>>4770753
I'd go with a solid maybe. We don't know what Manaka has done to the Grail. Let's not make any promises we can't keep. Shirou will be disappointed again.
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>>4770754
Which snek?
Chiyome deserves heavy petting.
As does Medusa.
Maybe also Shuten.
Vritra too.
Ourabora deserves light petting.
Euryale and Stheno deserve beatings.
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>>4770756
>give Shirou his dad, his mom and sister he never knew he had, and a wife.
We're the best friend.
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>>4770759
yes
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>>4770759
Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.

>Euryale and Stheno deserve beatings.
They deserve to be making amends with her sister. I don't think we need to administer beatings and I think what they experienced put things in perspective for them, I think they'll be nice.

We might want to do something about their annoying passive effects though, preferably before they are confronted with some guy who isn't us or Shirou.
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>>4770760
He's a good lad and our best friend too. He deserves this happiness instead of going off to die in Syria.
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>>4770759
Gotta say, I'm very happy we've changed the family theme from worms to sneks.
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>>4770762
We need somebody to mediate their time with Medusa.
She'll immediately sister simp if given a chance.
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>>4770764
Have you ever seen how snakes having sex?
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>>4770764
Sneks and dragons.
The upgraded worm.
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>>4770727
isnt all medeas horrible at making food?
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>>4770378
>>4770285
+1
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>>4770768
Argonautical propaganda.
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>>4770768
Dunno about the young one, but our Medea knows what's important in cooking.
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>>4770768
You will eat all food she make and you will love it
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>>4770734
I want that mini Excalibur
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We should make our executions of magi televised.
We'll make a big maze that supresses their magecraft and fill it with creative magic death traps and hungry oni/dragons/sneks.
Have their crimes shown on screen as they navigate the maze.
Then broadcast it.
The reward for surviving the maze is ostensibly freedom but it's actually being eaten by Sakura off camera.
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>>4770776
I like the way you think. But the same maze for our "Magus Survivor" would get boring fast. We should put different girls completely in charge for different episodes and let them make all the decisions about how to toy and dispose of them. That should keep things fresh, and keep more than one girl sated.
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>>4770764
snakes have a bifurcated benis which is helpful in a harem setting
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>>4770781
Who has the most difficult maze and who has the easiest?
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>>4770752
Also ask Shirou if he talked to Taiga.
We still don't know her servant.
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>>4770786
Vritra's maze I can see having a 0 percent pass rate.
Shuten I can see her camping at the exit to eat people.
If Stheno+Euryale get a maze it'll be the easiest and you'll think you've had a lucky break until you enter the winners room to see Sakura.
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>>4770782
>most difficult
Vritra. Being a conceptual obstacle is literally what she does.

>easiest
Shuten. She just wants to drink the Magus faster.
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Morgan's special enchanted forest maze!

With surprise Lugh cameo
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>>4770793
Shuten's maze is just a straight corridor with her waiting at end.
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>>4770796
Mordred's maze would be pretty straightforward too. Just a chamber and a duel with the King.
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We're gonna name our first born son Shirou right?
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>>4770796
All the traps in Shuten's maze just spray food or spices and seasoning on you.
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>>4770794
Medea's "Oh fuck why are there so many wyverns" maze!
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>>4770803
Sneed Makiri
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>>4770803
Zolgen
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>>4770803
Goetia.
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I hope Shuten doesn't bite during sex.
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>>4770813
I think you picked the entirely wrong person if that is an issue
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>>4770807
Atalante's maze won't be a maze. Just a normal, average forest where she hunts.

>>4770813
She saw us regenerate our arm in seconds, anon. And she has already tasted our blood.
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>>4770815
I'd rather not have her eat our entire arm during intercourse.
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>>4770816
Let’s hope she and Vritra don’t trade ideas.
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Dangerous blowjobs from Shuten!
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>>4770813
Sakura bites harder
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>>4770817
pick someone more vanilla, Shuten be what it do
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>>4770818
This is going to end with us being vored.
Our only real decision in the matter is by who.
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We should probably ask Medea to teach us that "no pain" trick from when she drew our blood for the Alitheia ritual.
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>>4770826
Doktor, turn on my pain inhibitors.
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Who do we even have at 99.9/100 right now?
>Sakura (possible 100/100)
>Medea
>Shuten
>Vritra(?)
>Touko?
>Mordred?
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>>4770830
Rin
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>>4770825
We should figure out how to survive and reform our body from a soul.
Then we can safely bed the vorefus.
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>>4770831
she's at like, 70+/100 since the basement scene. relying on her might have bumped it up to an 80/100 though
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>>4770831
Soon(tm)

>>4770810
Why do you want Sakura to hate her own child?
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>>4770832
Anon........ that's Heaven's Feel.
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>>4770834
It's probably gonna get bumped up when we introduce her to Paracelsus who's basically her perfect teacher
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>>4770830
Sakura is at 100/100 for sure
Medea is at WET/100
Satsuki, Medusa and Tamamo also at 99/100, for now.
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>>4770830
Manaka should be 99.9/100 as well
She will rape us during our dream
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>>4770837
And?
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>>4770837
Arc's body is also basically a 3rd Magic application I think...
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>>4770832
How long until someone suggests taking a page off zouken’s book?
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>>4770836
Circle of Hate and Sins of the Father
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What if the wave of forest voring mud vored Waver and pals?
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>>4770843
Kuruoka family had a kinda based idea with making Crest Bacteria from Matou research and South American god-bacteria.
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>>4770846
That'd be extremely funny
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>>4770843
Anons already did
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>>4770846
Then we’ll have to figure out how to cut them out. Or, if that proves to be impossible, time travel.
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>>4770848
>>4770848
>>4770848
>>4770848
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>>4770847
We still need to save their kid.
Maybe we'll have luck applying divinity to her.
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>>4770847
>kinda based idea
They're on The List.
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For real Manaka gushed herself after we killed Zouken
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>>4770851
We'd just need to fund Rin, since the Second can time-travel.
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>>4770855
Manaka gushed herself so hard she melted a forest and vored Gray, Reines and Luvia.
Based Manaka.
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>>4770854
You can't say that the Matou and Kuruoka base idea was not good, just that the execution kinda flopped. Implanting external shit or modifying your body is basic bitch magus shit if you're not researching a completely external thing like astrology, and even then there's stuff like Princesses of Gold and Silver.
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>>4770857
Manaka is a keeper
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>>4770859
They're on the list for never trying to help her.
Also for worming their daughter with bacteria.
They knew it would be painful.
I say we let Assclaps deal with them.
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>>4770859
>You can't say that the Matou and Kuruoka base idea was not good
I can absolutely say that. Ignoring the grossness, worms and bacteria are an AWFUL idea if you're planning on immortality without losing yourself. You have to be really stupid to be content with your body being immortal while your mind and soul constantly deteriorates. Shisou did it better, and we're functionally immortal as well even without puppets.
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>>4770861
And here we thought Sakura was the most powerful Vorefu.
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Morgan in LB6 soft confirmed? Not that Shinji would know, but hey
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>>4770867
>male
>fairy traits
Morgan and Saber Fairy are in the game?
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>>4770867
A fairy appeared on the trailer, so maybe her, maybe another fairy.
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>>4770867
Isn't lb6 literally called Avalon le Fay.
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I can't believe Manaka made giga voremud though.
She's not fucking around now.
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>>4770863
All immortality that doesn't verge on the 3rd in a specific way or make you inhuman like DAs comes with eventual soul rot. Thats not a bug of the Matou or Kuruoka method but the norm. Touko not having soul rot is either her copying her soul over and over, or that she's too young yet. It doesn't come into play until you're like 300.

I wouldn't call Touko's technique perfect immortality if its actually copying and not transferring, and if it transfers soul rot is not erased. Her verging on the 3rd is because she can quantify and confirm the soul, not because she ascended it like other branches.

Rin drawing on the Kaleidosword probably doesnt verge in world administration like what we see Zelretch doing, just other aspects as an example of having one aspect, but not others of a Magic.

Touko's research is based on Human Imitation, so it may trick the World into transferring/making a soul copy, but I don't know if its a forever working method, or if continuity of soul is preserved through a singular soul
Roa's method is most similar, but his DA shit muddies the waters and requires a host thats not a puppet. He also usually jumps before 300 years pass iirc.

We probably won't need anything like either Touko, Roa or Matou/Kuruoka, but it was not THAT bad a method. This assumes our RM works on our soul and I'm 99% sure it does, since Truth can fix concept and spiritual damage.
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>>4770876
Avalon and Excalibur work fine though.
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>>4770877
Avalon and Excalibur is fairy stuff, so I wasn't counting since its not sometthing you can make as a human, but yes.
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>>4770867
I didn't know Medb had syncretism, pretty funny that all of the people Cu knows is related to someone else
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>>4770878
Gil's immortality herb then.
Also Shirou can make perfect copies of Avalon.
Checkmate nigger.
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>>4770881
Aren't Shirou and Saber both biologically immortal now?
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>>4770881
Bruh, if we're bringing HS into this, just have Assclap collaborate with Medusa and make some immortality elixirs.
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>>4770884
Shirou isn't a HS.
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>>4770885
Afaik you need Artoria around to serve as a key to make Avalon work, otherwise it just does nothing. Since Shirou didnt know he had regen before the Grail War in SN, and he'd probably have noticed.
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God, I really really can't wait to spring everything on Kerry.
Imagine the smug on Seibah's face when she reveals her engagement with Shirou to him.
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>>4770886
We'll just have Obei hack him some credentials.
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>>4770887
Why didn't we just call her Hope?
Are we that chuuni?
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>>4770886
We have Mordred, Morgan, Saber Fairy and saberface Nero for ourselves
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>>4770886
>otherwise it just does nothing.
It increases the speed of healing but it's nowhere close to what it does when Artoria is around.
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>>4770888
This may be stupid, but can't Arc just order it to work or order the fairies to make it work? Since shes the highest fairy basically
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>>4770892
Why don't we just give Shirou the concept of Fairy to let him perfectly make anything.
Or Reforging to let him edit his creations however he wants?
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>>4770895
Upgraded would also work well.
Unrestricted, maybe?
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>>4770752
Tell casters to research our CS.
Decurse Medusa's sisters.
Conspire with Waver and Reines against MA.
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>>4770902
Are Medusa's sisters cursed? I thought it was more like their function as divinities.
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Who are we taking on alternate universe adventures?
Rin, Sakura and Vritra?
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>>4770846
That would be extremely painful.
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>>4770910
You're a big guy
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>>4770910
You're a big guy
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>>4770910
For who?
Waver?
I wonder if Manaka will taunt us about her eating Luvia.
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>>4770913
>>4770913
>>4770913
>>4770913
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>>4770915
For (You)
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The hypetard in me really wants to stack our RM over Shirou's UBW against Manaka, if he has unlocked it yet, but one would probably cancel the other out either way.
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>>4770909
Shuten and Vritra can't be left unsupervised, I think they have to come with us.
We also told Betty we will never leave her alone again but since she has Abby and Alithia I think we can leave her behind with Medea.
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I hope Left Manaka is doing ok.
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>>4770876
If all methods other than the 3rd inevitably result in soul rot, then trying to achieve immortality in any way that doesn't involve the 3rd is assinine. Bugs and bacteria are extra assinine, because they use horrifying methods to achieve a horrifying result that does not work the way you want it to. That's the kind of standard magus thinking that will get you a visit from the vore inquisition. No regard for the cost OR the consequences.

>>4770889
Yes, of course. Do you even have to ask?

>>4770903
Yeah, I don't think it's a curse that Chiyome can help with. We'll have to get more creative.
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>>4770923
The good part about parallel worlds is that you can feed assholes to your waifus and never be found out for it.
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>>4770926
Who's the head Inquisitor?
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>>4770920
RM aren't stackable, you are forcing your inner world on the outside.
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>>4770929
Good question. I think Ciel is the most qualified for the job, she has the necessary experience. I'm not sure she'd do great at keeping the vore squad in line though.
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>>4770913
>>4770914
>>4770915

>>4770734
>>4770734
>>4770734
>>4770734
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>>4770933
I don't think she'll want to get involved in the vore either.
Now Sion?
There's a suitable voresquad leader.
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>>4770929
Well this is Bazett's job and Ciel is trained to kill Magus so... coin flip
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Calling in twenty.
You are not going to be very popular among the magus community.
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>>4770958
Thay are all just a bunch of jealous cunts. they can't handle the Truth.
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>>4770958
Fuck magus community
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>>4770959
I was more referring to the hunting them down and executing them through complicated deathtrap mazes or just feeding them to Shuten part.
That's not going to earn you many fans.
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>>4770963
>That's not going to earn you many fans.
It will
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>>4770963
We don't want them to be fans. We want them to behave.
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>>4770967
With who?
>>4770970
You know as well as I do that what you're planning is basically doomed to fail.
There's always going to be somebody trying to work behind the scenes.
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>>4770972
Not if we take over the entirety of the scene by appropriating entirety of world's magical energy and running it through an arcane supercomputer until it spits out exactly the outcome we want.
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>>4770972
Yeah, I don't think anyone expects the deathtrap mazes to actually keep the mages in line. It'll be fun though.
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>>4770979
Zolgen? Is that you?
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>>4770981
As long as none of the magi is actually an austrian culturist framed for crimes he didn't commit
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>>4770979
Gramps really was too based for this world.
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>>4770972
We will be killing a lot of people of magus
Somebody will like it and even cheer for it
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>>4770285
>>4770979
+1
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>>4770982
Of course not, that would be silly, haha.

Let's go back to discussing how to recover Irisviel from the grail and extend homunculus lifespan, can we? There's no point beating a dead horse.
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>>4770991
>recover Irisviel from the grail
We don't know enough to even speculate. Who knows the state the Grail will be in? We'll need to secure it first.

>extend homunculus lifespan
Shisou is on it. She's been ragging on the Einzbern methods for years. She said once that homunculi should have been good for a couple centuries before they began deteriorating. With some help I'm sure she'll be able to push it to fully immortal.
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>>4770991
>>4771004
Gotta get Justeaze out too
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>>4771017
This
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>>4770378
This won then yeah?
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>>4771038
yes
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>>4771038
Yup
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>>4771004
>>4771017
>>4771020
And with powers of Azathoth and memories we can even bring good version of Grandpa back to life!
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>>4771076
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I knew I could count on you, grandson!
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>>4771085
You failed to learn an important lesson, old man.
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>>4771092
We could bring back Grandpa, but as a baby. That way we can influence his life and he will grow up and not cause any trouble!
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>>4771085
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>>4771099
If after taking back control and restoring his soul Zolgen just went to get his waifu out of the Grail such a chad move would have forever cleansed him of any bad image he had in all other fate works. At least for me it would.
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>>4771095
no
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>>4771095
If we're bringing back zouken then i want kirei brought back too.
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>>4771095
Shuten will have veal from dinner.
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>>4771112
How about him?
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>>4771117
He can stay dead, not based enough.
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>>4771103
Speaking of,

if we do manage to browse through the Grail contents are we just gonna grab Iri and bail? Does anyone alive (sucks to suck zouken) have any sort of attachment to Justeaze?
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>>4771117
Not sure bringing back the dead is a good idea. Best to just give him a proper grave now that Zouken is finally dead.
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Chunky update incoming.
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>>4771129
I like em big.
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"Scáthach, are you capable of binding the fallen Servant there in a runic prison? Lugh and Aoko, I want you to to stay on guard too, it's crucial that you do not kill her, but if she attempts to get up, you need to restrain her." You give the three of them orders to make sure that Nero doesn't escape somehow. If Manaka manages to get her hands on Nero, things will end up going very poorly for you indeed. She's the other half of Manaka's Beast, if your memory serves you well, or at least has the potential of becoming the other half of the Beast.

"I am capable of doing such a thing, and I understand." Scáthach hops off of Lugh's back, and is quickly followed by Aoko, who gives Lugh a strange look. You wonder what happened between the two of them, you know they had a scuffle a few decades ago, but you thought that the two of them ended up getting over it! Well, you suppose that it hardly matters all that much now, the two of them are adults, they can work through whatever issues they may have with each other by themselves. You hardly know the two of them all that well either, so it wouldn't feel right to try to help them through whatever issues they may have with each other. Aoko doesn't say anything as she approaches Nero and Scáthach begins drawing runes in the air around the fallen Berserker. Aoko is clearly very curious about the runes that Scáthach is employing, and watches her in silence as the woman sets up a runic prison.

You walk close to the struggling Magus of Flowers and kneel down next to him before you speak quietly, not wanting to be overheard. "Now, Merlin, my first question is... why aren't you helping me you deranged cambion?! Aren't we on the same side here?" You really want to know just what the hell Merlin has been playing at all this time. The other hooded figure shies away from you and Merlin as you approach, clearly they are quite scared of you.

"Ah, I should've guessed that you were going to ask that first, and the answer is... well, it's a yes as much as it is a no." Merlin doesn't look happy about having to give a half answer for once, and genuinely looks like he's been defeated.

"In... what way?" You don't like his answer all that much, so you push him to clarify things.

"I was sent her by the will of the 'other' Alaya. Snuck through the cracks, if you would. I don't stand for the humanity of this world, but of all those who are threatened by the existence of this world." Merlin winces as he looks down at his wound before he continues talking. "My priority isn't to save this world, so much as it is to make sure that this world isn't capable of destroying all the other worlds that exist." He frowns. "It wouldn't have become an issue, but this world's version of Alaya, after meeting you, it... cut itself off from the others.
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"But, wouldn't that have weakened it enough that the other Alaya could... forcibly re-assimilate it or something?" You don't quite get how this stuff is meant to work, but surely the Alaya from the other timelines could forcibly set a rogue variant of the Will of Humanity straight?

"You'd think so, but... the thing is, your variant of Alaya is... just as powerful split away as the entire rest of the Alaya's combined. Before, it was passive and part of a hive-mind that they share between each world occupied by humanity, composing a great deal of potential strength for the rest of Alaya to draw on for their own goals." That sounds ridiculous! A single version of Alaya being equal in strength to a the entirety of the rest of them?

"But, why is it so powerful?" You don't mind being told that your version of Alaya is the best and strongest version of Alaya that exists already, but you want to know just why that's the case.

"It's quite simple, it mostly told you how itself, the fact that this timeline has never branched away means that it still contains all of the energy that was used to create it from the original splitting point from. That is to say the world where you don't exist." Wait, so that means that... your version of Alaya, when compared to a version from another timeline, would be able to crush it with ease? Thanks to not losing any energy from a timeline being created? Unexpected, but you suppose it makes sense. Your version of Alaya is very much less like a physical law, and more like a genuine deity of sorts, but it's still strange to think it's meant to be that much more powerful than the rest of them. "Which is where I came in, I was requested as Grand Caster to investigate the situation with this world, and to discover the anomaly. That anomaly didn't exactly take me very long to find though." He looks at you with piercing eyes. "Still, even if those other Alaya wanted me to destroy this world so that the power of this world's Alaya would go to them, I.. Couldn't." That's both bad news and good news. The bad news being that the rest of the Alaya are seemingly more than willing to destroy this entire planet and are prevented solely from doing so by your version of Alaya, but also the fact that they are seemingly capable of sending Grand Servants to investigate this world, which you suppose would really count as the sort of world that need to be investigated considering just how many Beasts have been in play here. Sakura with Tiamat, Zolgen with Orochi, and Manaka with whatever she's got.

"You couldn't?" Was Merlin really sent her to destroy the world? Isn't that just a little cliche?
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"I tried to ignore it, and I tried to just pretend this world was all nothing but a dream and that I would be doing the rest of humanity a favor by ridding the world of it, but... Arturia is genuinely happy in this world. How could I so happily destroy a world like this one? Even if it is a threat that keeps generating threats to other worlds." Merlin looks up to the sky and breaths out in pain. "Not to mention that you ended up killing that Beast and foiling his plan pretty perfectly too." The man praises your actions. "Even if it was mostly because of your actions that it ended up becoming an issue in the first place." You... can't really deny that, but then again, Mr. Primate Murder over here hasn't got anywhere to stand, especially not in this timeline.

"Alright, well putting your mission from the other Alaya aside for a moment, what exactly happened between you and Nero here? Is she stable?" You look at the woman, who is unmoving. "I don't suppose I'll need to tell you what happens if she might die with the girl under the temple still trying to control everything..."

"Stable, asleep, and under the best anti-scrying and sleeping magic I've got to offer. I'm well aware that this woman is a potential fit for a Beast, and I'm trying to avoid that from coming to fruition here. The girl isn't just a threat to this timeline, after all." Merlin's voice is dire. "We should probably work together." Merlin clearly doesn't like having to say those words, but given the circumstances, it's not like he's got much of a choice.

"Fine, for now." You look down at the hurt Grand Caster, before you sigh and put your hand next to his wound to start healing him. It's pretty clear that no matter what his original intentions were, he's an ally for the moment. "How did you get hurt like this anyway?"

"Ah, a present from one of the girls." Merlin doesn't sound impressed. "I could barely catch glimpses of the two even before they managed to seal my Clairvoyance." Huh, they sealed his Clairvoyance as well? Just like Gilgamesh... looks like Manaka doesn't like being spied upon much. "Well, I was trying to get everyone to safety when that wave of mud appeared, but just as I was about to finish doing so, one of those girls appeared and stabbed me in the back. It's only thanks to my current class container as a Grand that I avoided being consumed and converted to her side by the power of the curses contained within. Even so, she used the opportunity to change me to strip me of... a great deal of my strength." Merlin is speaking through grit teeth.

"What did the girl looks like, was she the one with the sword wound through her chest, or the one without any damage to her body?" You want to make sure that this was Right Manaka's doing, she might be sealed into the temple to prevent retaliation from the Counter Force, but it seems she may have managed to-
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You're dragged out of your thoughts by Merlin's next words. "It was the one without any damage to her body, but... she was different from how I saw her in the glimpses I had of the two. Her body was coated in squirming red patterns, her eyes were as red as freshly spilled blood, and her hair was as pale as the moonlight." You freeze for a moment.

"You... Did she feel like she was being possessed by anything?" Merlin just gave you a perfect description of somebody who has been possessed by Angra Mainyu, but would the Manaka from another world really do something so awful to her counterpart? To force her to become the host of Angra Mainyu? You suppose it makes sense, how the Grail Mud was imbued with Potnia Theron, and how such a great deal of it was created. Before, you had assumed that Enkidu was the perfect host for Angra Mainyu based on his nature as a living being of mud, but no, the perfect host for Angra Mainyu was there all along. Manaka Sajyou. Likely already at the same level of strength as a Beast thanks to her natural abilities being bolstered by Angra Mainyu.

"Now that you mention it, there was certainly something else going on with her. Yes, it did seem to be something like demonic possession... or perhaps something more like divine possession?" Merlin muses to himself, no longer in as much pain as he was due to his wound being healed. Unfortunately, even with your Truth Healing, you don't know if you can reverse whatever modifications were done to Merlin to weaken him by Manaka. Not to mention that even if you could do such a thing, which you probably could, you don't exactly trust him enough to be willing to give him a full heal just yet.

"Troubling... My next question is why the hell did you block scrying in the forest? Do you have any idea how much trouble that caused me?" You're quite annoyed by how much extra effort you needed to put in simply because you couldn't just automatically have the Casters discern things or teleport you to locations.

"Nowhere near as much trouble as it would've caused you if everyone in the forest was being perpetually targeted by Orochi's curse of control, or whatever those two girls might've done if they could get a perfect lock onto everyone in the entire forest, there wouldn't have just been a tidal wave if that happened, she may well have just had puddles of that consuming mud grow underneath the feet of everyone in the forest, killing everyone unable to resist its effects immediately." Merlin offers no apologies for his actions, and that's... fair, you suppose.

"Fine, next question, where are Waver and the others? You were with them, right?"
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"I was with them when the tidal wave appeared, and..." Merlin takes a deep breath, and your eyes narrow. If you find that he let Waver and everyone who was with Waver die, then you'll make sure he dies in such a way he won't be coming back from. Rider can petrify him, and you're fairly certain you could hit him with a concept that'll destroy him in such a way that his return will be impossible. "and I only managed to save the Masters, I was forced to change my targets after I was hurt, and I had them scattered around the city. They'll be fine, but... their Servants didn't get nearly as lucky. I needed to ensure that Berserker here wasn't caught in the wave, so I had no choice but to abandon my fellow Servants instead of shield them." Merlin sounds genuinely upset as he reveals his failure to protect everyone, and it's kind of unlike Merlin to feel that way. Then again, it's probably quite unlikely for him to get to experience unplanned for failure. "The only one I couldn't send away was the girl... the girl who looks like Arturia." Your frown gets much much deeper as you realize that Merlin is effectively telling you that Gray is dead, and it's all his fault. You won't know for certain until you've searched for her, it's always possible that she could've prevented herself from being consumed with Rhongomyniad or something, but... it's unlikely.

You take a deep breath. "I'm going to make sure you suffer if Gray is actually dead." Your voice is calm and harsh. You never really spent much time with Gray as a result of an entire continent separating you most of the time, but you still consider both her and Waver to be your friends. "Now, my last question, Merlin. If you're not acting as Alaya wants by trying to destroy this world, what... exactly, do you want?"

"It's pretty obvious what I want, isn't it? I want everything here to work out. So long as this world doesn't threaten the existence or progress of the other worlds, I'm not going to actively work towards destroying it, despite my obligations. It's not like this world exists as a threat to the rest of time simply through existing alone." What Merlin actually wants isn't really that much to ask for honestly, you were expecting a far more outlandish goal than just not wanting this world to ruin all the rest. Then again, you don't quite know how he truly feels about your alterations to a few Servants on the Throne of Heroes right now, or the erasure of Roa from every single timeline that exists... Honestly, those changes probably aren't that important.

"Well, now that I've asked you those questions, would you mind..."

>"...Coming with me?"
>"...Gathering Waver and everyone you sent away?"
>"...Looking for Gray?"
>"...Telling me about the Servants that Waver's group summoned?"
>"...Shutting up for a second? I want to do something to Nero." Apply a concept to the Berserker Nero. (What?)
>"...Introducing your Master?"
>Write-in...
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I probably should've made the update in a new thread.
Oh well, I'll prepare a new thread for the next update.
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Oh look, Merlin did nothing wrong.
Shame on all of you for not trusting him.
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>>4771151
We can still kill him later.
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>>4771142
Shit. Poor Gray. We need to find her.

Maybe Enkidu can help with that?

Let's maybe debeastify Nero first. Although she's going to need a contract with someone doesn't she?
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>>4771143
Yes, you probably should have. Thread will get unwieldy.

So, our Alaya takes the other Alayas lunch money, Merlin is a fucking idiot who I swear will SUFFER if he really let Gray die, R Manaka got impatient after Enkidu's failure and let L Manaka be possessed by the angry manjew, and she got AT LEAST 7 new servants to replace the ones she lost. Excellent news all around. Fucking Merlin.

Now, we need to gather Waver and friends before Tesla railguns them, we need to send the prisoner to the mansion since she's stable, and we need to go look for Gray. I will not believe she is really dead until I see the corpse, and perhaps not even then.

So I suggest:

>"...Gathering Waver and everyone you sent away?"
>"...Sending Olga Marie and Nero to the mansion where they'll be safe"
>"...Coming with me to look for Gray"
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>>4771142
>"...Introducing your Master? If it is who I think it is she has quite a story herself as you should be well aware. Right, miss Animusphere?"
>"...and before we go I want to do something to Nero." Apply a concept to the Berserker Nero. (What?)
>Salvation
>>4771125
Justeaze is useful for Einzbern takeover.
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>>4771151
Well at least we know now that he’s on our side.

>>4771142
>>4771157
Support
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>>4771157
Yes I suppose this is best.
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>>4771157
We really should apply concept to Nero right away. She is way to important here and Manakas have already showed they can show up outside of their barrier if they really want it. Can`t risk it with Nero.
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Neroserker's problem seems to be her Innocent Monster EX, and thats probably where her Mad Enhance comes from.
Do you think Salvation will scrape that off or just make her a crazy savior?
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>>4771162
No, we shouldn't. Gray might not have the 10 seconds. She's stable, she's sleeping, and the Manakas can't scry her or they'd already be here. Nero can wait for later, Gray can't.
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>>4771163
Nasu portrayed her as tragic heroine with stench of madness. But more of a genki in terms of personality. She loved Rome and her people, wanted better for themselves but slowly succumbed to her insanity before killing herself.
Beast of Revelation is countered by offering Salvation and at the same time Salvation was the only thing Nero really wanted herself. And it works well to help her be free from her madness.
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What's the problem here exactly in picking between Nero and Gray?

Heal Memelin, tell him to look for Gray, while we implant a concept on Nero.
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>>4771163
If liberation served to help Enkidu free himself, salvation might work to uplift Nero (and give her abilities that will help pay it forward), I think...
Other alternatives that might work... maybe Temperance to reclass her from berserker and make her saner? Humanity to counter the monstrosity? Peace, or Pax for the latin, to calm her down?
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>>4771176
Do you REALLY trust Merlin to go look for Gray by himself? While we have the supersonic wolf? Because I don't see that working out well for Gray at all.

>>4771177
I don't think we can do better than Salvation for Nero. We just shouldn't apply it right now.
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>>4771177
The concept of Rome to make Romulus fix her and Human Order shit Rome has. But nah, Salvation works better than Temperance, because Temperance is just not in her nature at all, while Salvation is more flexible.

Just the Animusphere bit is a bit weird, cause I think child Olga has no idea whats going on.

Ask Scathach to do some tracking rune shit to find Gray. Even Cu can do a version of it.
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>>4771183
>Do you REALLY trust Merlin to go look for Gray by himself?
I do, if we tell him her connection to Artoria he'll flip the Texture inside out to find her. And I think going to look for Gray ourselves is splitting hairs yet again, we don't have time for this, we should move onto the next group and preferably find Waver asap. Heal Merlin, set him to work, Save Nero and move the fuck on, lest a second mud wave catches us unawares.
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How about:
Contact our allies and ask them to do quick search for scattered Masters in the city
Ask Merlin and Scáthach to try their own methods to locate Gray. Search rune will be very useful here
Apply concept to Nero while everyone else is busy with their tasks
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>>4771185
He knows, anon. He's seen her. He STILL left her to be possibly consumed by the mud. You're writing off Gray if we let him fail her again.
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>>4771186
Seems fine,
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At this point it feels like the only way you're getting a good night's sleep is if your king punches your lights out again.
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>>4771188
>You're writing off Gray if we let him fail her again
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>>4771192
God, I am so DONE with this day. I just want it to end. I imagine this is how Shinji must feel like.
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>>4771183
>Do you REALLY trust Merlin to go look for Gray by himself?
This is one of the few situations where we can trust him. And it will take more than 10 sec to locate her anyway.
And I am telling this as the one who is really into the idea of gifting Morgan new garden gnome.
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>>4771183
Merlin has no reason to not look for gray.
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>>4771192
We're just inheriting the most intrinsic trait of one of humanity's greatest heroes. CasGil's overwork tendencies
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>>4771192
Do we get to rest on her lap pillow if she does so?
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>>4771193
At least you're admitting it.

>>4771199
I disagree. I would not trust Merlin to tie his own shoes without supervision at this moment.

>>4771202
I'm not saying he won't try. I'm saying he won't succeed.
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>>4771197
Shinji will solve all the lostbelts and singularities in a single day as he is allergic to sleeping.
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>>4771207
Learning Atlas magecraft so you can make parts of your brain sleep while other parts are working just fine.
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>>4771183
>>4771206
Can you can it with the Merlin autism? We get it, you hate him. Stop bitching for 5 seconds.
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>>4771206
Just ask him and our future rune teacher to do it.
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>>4771205
Maybe.
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>>4771212
You should know by now that isn't possible. His existence revolves around bitching and whining.
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>>4771142
From >>4771158 to
>"Hello, Olga Marie. Nice to meet you at last."
>Ask Merlin and Scáthach to start looking for Gray
>Contact your allies with Tamamophone and tell them about Waver`s group and ask to do quick search while you finish your business here
>Apply a concept to the Berserker Nero. (Salvation)
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Calling in...
I'd like to say 20 or something, but I've got visiting family, so it might be more like an hour or so.
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>>4771224
>>4771142
+1
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>>4771224
>>4771142
Support
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>>4771142
>>4771224
Support
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>>4771142
I can get behind that, supporting >>4771224
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>>4771142
>>4771224
Support.
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>You look at the unfamiliar group of clay figures on the map of the forest first, looking at the larger group of that seems to slowly be making its way towards the Einzbern Castle's ruins. It's larger than you had first thought, consisting of 11 people. A man wearing a suit, a hooded girl, a girl with hair bunched in drills, a smaller boy without many distinguishing features, a gruff looking man wearing sunglasses, another small girl and... God damn it. This is Waver's group! What the hell is he doing in the forest? You look at the Servants instead. Of those, you can see a man wearing a mask and a tattered cloak, a somewhat tall woman with a long blade, a man with oriental looking armor and a bow, another man with armor, though this one has a blade. Another man with a cloak and... no shirt. Six Masters and five Servants. Looks like Enkidu wasn't capable of seeing through Assassin's Presence Concealment from this far away.
This was Waver`s group that Enkidu showed us. I recall all of them were high rolls and tall woman was confirmed not to be Okita Alter since we had a chance to summon her ourselves.
Looks like we are getting team nemesis fight.
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>>4771224
>>4771142
Support
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>>4771117
Bring based uncle back, save Lancelot too, have them bro it up and be cool uncles to our kids
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>>4771142
>>4771224
Support
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>>4771244
Yes we are. We'd assumed it would have been a team nemesis fight against Merlin, but it looks like it's gonna be history's monsters trying to save the world vs history's twisted heroes trying to destroy it.
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>>4771250
Get the Oni and goddesses some Alaya credit for saving it. Maybe she'll like the new age if we keep protecting it from other Alayas with nonhumans.
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>>4771250
Ironic
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>>4771142
going to go with this >>4771224
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>>4771224
+1 let's go
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>>4771224
supporting

>>4771142
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So... its safe to say that Manaka(s) have Arthur under their control right? Or are we going to see a Grey Alter?
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>>4771261
I think it was Gray who fired off that excaliblast. I'm hoping we can still save her.
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Wait and Hope.
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>>4771159
>>4771142
Changing to/supporting >>4771224
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>>4771224
I guess that this won then?
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>>4771301
Yep
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Nero is shit
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After we get Wavers group we should free Monica.
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>>4771310
Agreed, assuming nothing else happens that pushes her down the priority list. Again.
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>>4771301
Yes that won
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>>4771388
>>4771388
>>4771388
New bread, tentatively with a calmer OP image.



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