"Alright, Suzuka, don't be alarmed by what I'm about to do!" You run a little bit faster in order to properly match pace with the running Saber, who turns her head back to face you for a moment, the white flames pursuing you reflecting off her large light hazel eyes. There's a very small amount of fear in her eyes as she looks at the flames, and you know exactly the reason why. These flames aren't the sort of flames that simple Magic Resistance could protect somebody from, these flames are infused with the Authority of Divinity, and as such, would unfailingly burn anything that they touched, such qualities like incombustible or even heatproof doesn't apply to such flames, and all in the path of the flame would be consumed and burned into oblivion in a few instants. Is this the level of elemental power that ELIXIR and Orochi have already managed to acquire?

"What are you planning Mast--Eh?!" Suzuka doesn't get to finish her sentence as you dip down a little in order to place one of you arms around her legs and use her own momentum against her in order to force her off of the floor and into your grip. You quickly use your other arm to catch her and continue running forwards, almost completely unimpeded from picking up the Saber. "Master, not that I can't say I don't like... enjoy a forceful partner, but what are you doing?! I'm faster than you are, so it should be me carrying you, you know?!" Suzuka is panicking slightly as you carry her in your arms, but you manage to mollify her slightly with a confident smile, which shuts her up pretty quick.

"Vritra, keep running, and do not be surprised by what exactly I'm about to do." You really hope this works out for the best, while Suzuka might have a higher agility parameter than Vritra does, the truth of things is that the Dragon Woman is much much taller than Suzuka is, for every pace she takes, she may as well be going an extra fifty percent more distance than Suzuka is. Then there's taking into account Vritra's literally unlimited supply of Magical Energy and her Mana Burst skill, she could easily surpass even Suzuka in pure speed. In fact, with her Mana Burst being abused to its fullest degree, she could likely even outspeed Servants with Speed ranked A++, at least in a straight line.

You slow down just a little, just enough for Vritra to start getting in front of you, Vritra is clearly concerned by what exactly you're planning on doing here, but she doesn't really stop or slow down, she seems to trust whatever it is that you're doing. Suzuka is still staring up into your eyes dreamily for some reason, though she tries to avert her eyes when you look down at the Servant in your arms that has gone almost entirely limp, you wonder what she's thinking right now. When you're just about completely behind Vritra, you bring out as much speed as you can from your body and leap forwards, straight onto Vritra's back. The imposingly tall and incredibly strong woman doesn't even flinch as you collide with her back, wrapping your legs around her and locking them in place just underneath two very soft... mounds. You time the leap perfectly, and you lean against Vritra's back somewhat, leaning slightly on Suzuka, who is still in your arms. "What exactly are you doing back there, my sweet?" The Dragon woman picks up the pace a little bit, and immediately starts running far faster. "I hope you're not thinking of trying to ride a Dragon." Vritra starts to laugh as she runs faster, beginning to outpace the flames. "You know that most fools who try to ride on the back of a dragon end up dead... Or eaten." There's the tiniest amount of menace in her voice as she says that, though it sounds more like a teasing form of menace, if such a thing exists. Well, you don't actually think that Vritra really means her teasing threats at this point. She's making far too many of them to actually be serious about following through with them.

"Oh, that's exactly what I'm doing." You smugly smirk, though you're pretty sure that Suzuka is the only person that can see your expression now. "You can try to shake me off if you want, but I've been blessed by a Queen of Dragons, meaning that I can very much ride you!" You don't know why you take so much satisfaction in saying that to Vritra. "So, go as fast as you can! Use your Mana Burst, draw on the absolute limits of your speed! Get us out of the way of this flame! Just don't destroy the tunnel!" Vritra is easily one of the most powerful Servants you know right now, her eternal nature and effectively infinite magical energy mean that she's just... completely busted. Capable of manifesting an effectively unlimited amount of Vajra that pierce through any armor and always strike their mark.

"Oh, you can truly ride me...? Hmmph, you just keep getting more and more interesting, my sweet... rider." The dragon woman keeps racing through the tunnel. The g-force being generated by her using her Mana Burst on every pace, propelling herself like a jet's after burner on every single step. This would be enough to liquidate the organs of a normal human in less than half a second, and even you, if you weren't wearing Ares' Sash. Of course, with the speed you're moving at you ended up eventually deciding the best way to wear it was around your neck like a long scarf. Wearing it like a mantle that wasn't actually bound to you by anything risked the Noble Phantasm just fluttering off and into the flames. No, you need it to very much be secured to you, and you also sort of like the aesthetic of the long scarf.

With her great speed, it doesn't take long for Vritra to reach the end of the tunnel , an overflow chamber. She leaps a great distance to land in the very center of the chamber, and you look behind you to see the flame blast out of the tunnel, and instead of flooding into the room, the white hot fire instead flows into the center of the room, an invisible void consuming the flame utterly... no. It's not consuming it...! It's... compressing it! The white hot flame continues to flow into the center of the overflow chamber, the hyper-compressed orb of flame keeps growing, like a miniature sun! No... like a... Neutron Star?! You can feel gravity start to shift towards the center of the room! If the mass and energy of this burning object continues to increase, then not only will escape be impossible due to the gravity, but the entire room will be flooded with so much heat that even a Servant would be reduced to ash just from being inside it for an instant! You have about ten seconds before the heat becomes so great that even the Sash of Ares won't be sufficient protection, and Suzuka will also be turned to ash. Vritra will be able to survive, but even she would likely be reduced to a state of continually resurrecting and being incinerated until the overflow of heat disappears!

>Keep running! To the next chamber!
>Damn it, get to the Central Chamber! You can't keep running around like a cornered rat!
>Contain the burning artificial star with a barrier of Truth!
>Protect yourself and your allies with a barrier of Truth until the heat passes!
>Try to destroy the energy. (How?)
>Write-in...

>>4758459
Contain the burning artificial star with a barrier of Truth!

I think its either attempting to delete/burn/Sword of Truth it out of existence, or something weorder.


Can we try adding Holy infused Truth fire with the truth'd concept of infecting fire into it? Make it all Holy and then just face tank it and protect our allies?

First impressions?

>>4758471
Rather, shoot fire that burns fire for fuel then shield ourself so the fuel--air (fire-fire) explosion doesnt kill us. We cant shut out gravity so the Neutron Star would kill us...or we can shut it out, but not for long iirc.

Time to head into the central chamber? We have everything we need and Suzuka knows the plan. I don't see what we gain by delaying.

>>4758476
Thats also true, we dont need to concept imbue her, you think? Or do it while Riding?

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Worst Girl poll soon?
Also, does anybody have any ideas for other polls?
Worst Girl poll will be a little different.
It won't contain all the girls and will be a single vote only poll.
So if you have a girl you'd like to vote as worse girl, please respond to this post.

>>4758478
I don't think we NEED it, no. She's already big brained enough to hack. Would be nice to hqve for sure, but we definitely can't spare the 10 secs if grandpa knows we're loose, and possibly not even if he doesn't.

>>4758479
Respond

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>>4758481
What.
Who are you suggesting?
WHO?

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>>4758457
>Suzuka is still staring up into your eyes dreamily for some reason, though she tries to avert her eyes when you look down at the Servant in your arms that has gone almost entirely limp, you wonder what she's thinking right now.
It's starting to really grate on me how quickly this happens.

>>4758484
She's just a little shocked and is contemplating things.
Especially because her Mystic Eyes already failed to do anything to you and you didn't even register them.
This isn't a 99/100.

>>4758459
>Contain the burning artificial star with a barrier of Truth!

>>4758483
Ah, you want suggestions for worst girl? That's easy. Altrouge. Never forget what she did to poor Satsuki.

Close competition with Ishtar in a bottle for what she almost did to poor Illya, but we already have her in a bottle.

>>4758484
I'll confess I agree. It's uncanny.

>>4758484
This is the fun part.
And we are yet to tell her about our money, martial arts achievements and all other things.

>>4758485
>spoiler
Thank fuck

>>4758459
>Contain the burning artificial star with a barrier of Truth!
>>4758479
Sakura.

>>4758484
There has to be some difficulty to being Shinji I suppose.
You know what they say, 99 outta 100 problems and a bitch caused all of them.

>>4758485
>Character has power that makes people love them
>Character B is unnafected.
>So Character A falls for Character B.
Every time.

Whatis is there a chance Altrouge will come back? I'd like to add her to a harem and do scooby doo shenanigans with

>>4758487
>Altrouge
My DA route.
Okay.

>>4758479
Sakura

>>4758490
its a 98/100

>>4758495
You can always go and pursue her.
For the War itself, it's in its final stages now.
>>4758491
>>4758497
Really? Sakura?
You want me to put Sakura on the worst girl poll?

>>4758490
For now

>>4758500
I think they're just trying to get me to bite on the bait for some reason.

>>4758500
You want subjective opinions. You got subjective opinions.

Didnt like her in SN and I think her best contribution to the series was Kama.

In this quest she was more an objective to save to my apprehension, than best girl or girl.

>>4758479
It's really only Altrouge and Ishtar.
Wukong I guess?

>>4758500
She encompasses both extremes, Sakura is the Alpha and the Omega.

However Vritra is 99/100 now
You're very very lucky that you're so busy with saving the world right now, otherwise Sakura would truly have a meltdown when you leave.

>>4758459
>>Neutron Star
>>You can feel gravity start to shift towards the center of the room! If the mass and energy of this burning object continues to increase
>Contain the burning artificial star with a barrier of Truth!
I am dying to see how this will go since I have an idea or two.
>>4758479
Do you count Tiamat and Sakura as separate entities for this poll?

>>4758504
>>4758502

I do acknowledge 100% subjectivity, but thats whats called an opinion.

>>4758459
>Damn it, get to the Central Chamber! You can't keep running around like a cornered rat!
There is absolutely no reason for us to try and tank the sun. Suzuka knows the plan. We have everything we need. Time is ticking. Let's go crash grandpa's computer before he does something worse with it.

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>>4758504
>I think her best contribution to the series was Kama.
You might be trying to bait Sakurautist, but you're actually baiting me.
Kama is like the 3rd worst Sakuraface. Fight me

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How the hell are there people who think that Sakura is worst girl?
Like, worse than Ishtar?
Or Altrouge?
What the fuck is going on?

>>4758508
It's all fun and games until a girl starts crying.

>>4758459
>>Contain the burning artificial star with a barrier of Truth!
>>Write-in...
Pretend it's a reddit mod.

>>4758479
Medea

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>>4758513
Oh yeah QM?
Rate your Sakurafaces then.
My fav is Passionlip.

>>4758513
I am 100% serious tho. Who are the best and worst Sakurafaces in your opinion, then?

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>>4758516
Your actions have doomed everyone.
Because of this, the worst girl poll will consist of the top ten girls on the best girl poll.

>>4758514
I refuse to believe this is their actual unironic opinion.

>>4758514
Ishtar can be reformatted into Sumerian and I kinda like Alt even if she spazzed out a large amount at Sacchin. Sacchin is still good tho.

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>People calling Sakura and Medea worst girl.

i feel like making this worst girl poll is a mistake.

To the people wanting us to contain a fucking sun:
A) Why fo you expect it'll work?
B) What do you expect to gain if it works compared to us just going to our main objective right the fuck now?

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>>4758517
>>4758518
Sakura>Kingprotea>Meltryllis>BB>Passionlip>Violet>EXTRA Sakura>Kama>Kazuradrop>Parvati

This is the objectively correct ranking.

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>>4758522
>>4758525
Yes, I am now regretting the idea of it.
It's not going to be at all accurate and will just be shitposted so a popular girl is ranked 1 on it for god knows what reason.

Anyway calling in 20

>>4758527
Who's the fastest Sakuraface?

We could Truth SPHERE the sun into a Black Hole and throw it at Elixir? We arent effecting something big or strong, just topography/space.

>>4758527
QM, I...

What shit taste.

>>4758530
Kingprotea or Kama.
Both can just kind of be everywhere if they aren't stopped.

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>>4758534
Stop trying to match up to an original with your fakes, Zasshu.

>>4758531
A black hole has some real fucking strong forces. And even if we can do it, throwing it at the supercomputer strikes me as a "big boom, everyone dies" option. I thought we'd all agreed grug smash is not a good idea when we summoned Suzuka to hack it.

>>4758535
protea won the 100m dash so i guess she is faster.
Also, put morgan on the worst girl list.

>>4758459
>Damn it, get to the Central Chamber! You can't keep running around like a cornered rat!

>>4758540
You misunderstood how I answered the question.
Kama and Kingprotea can both sort of achieve omnipresence if they aren't stopped, so by default they win races.
However, in a normal scenario, the one who is 5m-50ms tall by default wins.

>>4758459
>Damn it, get to the Central Chamber! You can't keep running around like a cornered rat!

>>4758539
Dont want to try summoning more from another chamber?

>>4758459
>Damn it, get to the Central Chamber! You can't keep running around like a cornered rat!

>>4758459
>Damn it, get to the Central Chamber! You can't keep running around like a cornered rat!
>Warn Suzuka we're going for ELIXIR. If she wants a concept boost say now what, very quick explanation, we need 10 seconds to work, otherwise get ready to not let Orochi delete us and to hack ELIXIR

>>4758459
>Damn it, get to the Central Chamber! You can't keep running around like a cornered rat!

>>4758479
Fem Shinji

>>4758514
If we are being fully honest here I don`t think you made any girl worst girl material.
But while I understand why some people love Sakura and empathize with her story. I just always found her highly unappealing. Help her? Of course, she was done dirty in life. Romance option? I would take celibacy over it.
Any idea to set her up on the other paths in life long gone and I didn`t not vote for them either. I even voted for option to trying to win her that toy for few hours. I don`t really regret both of those choices since they were appropriate for that time.
As things currently are she is bound to us and that makes total sense and in-character especially. Given how getting isekai`d affected the mind initially and so on.
I suppose I could say that Manakas are annoying? But they are antagonists of Grail War so I expect them to be.
>>4758519
>Altrouge dodged worst girl poll
How the fuck does she do it every time?

>>4758544
I know, i was joking.

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>>4758551
She can't keep getting away with it!

>>4758551
Based and accurate summary of my thoughts also.

>>4758553
Carnival DAA Shinji

>>4758548
Anyone want to prepare more?

>>4758546
What could we possibly gain that would be worth the delay and risk of Grandpa preparing something extra special for us?

>>4758459
Switching >>4758511 to support >>4758548

>>4758556
You've covered everything, let's just Hope this wins.

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>>4758556
I'm going to make it the most heartwarming thing you'll ever read.

>>4758548
>>4758459
+1

>>4758559
>heartwarming
DAA Shinji roasts his friends' hearts on coals before he eats them?

>>4758559
Based DAA route

>>4758559
Heartwarming. Like Dr.Gilgamesh MD?[/spoiler!]

>>4758459
>>4758548
support

>>4758459
Switching>>4758548

>>4758459
Switching from >>4758509 to >>4758548

>>4758563
>[/spoiler!]
Also, no.
Altrouge is basically an eviler more autistic version of Arcueid, who despite being alive and active for longer periods of time, is even worse with modern society and dealing with people in general.
She's pretty evil, but she's not like, the worst evil imaginable.

>>4758500
Yes

>>4758548
+1 let's rock

Pretty sure this wins >>4758548

>>4758567
Carnival Moment: The Paradox Reincarnator cast visit the doctor's office! Featuring Asclepius, Dr. Gilgamesh, and Trick or Treat Florence Nightingale

>>4758500
if you're putting sakura on the worst girl poll its only fair game medea gets put on there as well.

>>4758567
But the most heartwarming?
Not Medusa-possessed Shinji? Medusa being the only person to every see Shinji for who he truly is and without any secrets would make more sense to be the most heartwarming.

>>4758574
There's no reason to put either of the two undeniably best girls in this poll. It's probably a bad idea to make it at all.

>>4758567
Carnival Moment: Enhance plays the Devil May Cry games as the DAAs spectate

>>4758567
And you're surprised Alt dodged being worst girl?

>>4758580
Well, you don't really know that yet, you've not exactly had many interactions with her.
You've just unfortunately never had the chance to have a non onesided chat with her.

>>4758582
People can just sense the Truth, I guess. We can go bully Alt with Arc after the war. Be one sided the other way around. Vritra can dunk on Primate Murder or play fetch.

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A reminder for the people who have apparently forgotten what Altrouge did.

>>4758592
What's a little murder between friends?

>>4758592
And we healed her so?

>>4758594
Not to mention the torture too. She wanted Satsuki to die suffering.

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>>4758598
Torture builds character!

>>4758592
I didnt forget, but I still stand by my opinions. Did you think merely that level of autism is too much? Take a look at Morgan, Jason. Morgan caused a lot of suffering for Mordred and Jason and Medea...and people still want to bro it up with Jason because he didnt job and was clever against Ishtar. We also told Mordred tontry forgiving Morgan, where did that go...? Morgan wasnt truly repentant, more sorry it turned out shitty, afaik.

>>4758599
>>4758598
>>4758600
I can continue building convoluted, biased logics all day.

>>4758601
He's the biggest autist in the thread, you won't win with him.

>>4758592
From meta view she gave Satsuki place in story and chance to partake in Shinji.
>>4758594
>>4758599
And I would also add another thing to the talk about best and worst girls and few critique you got over big female cast.
I like it not so much because we are getting girls but because it is the most interesting conflict. Shinji following his nature and helping them and being the thing they truly need. And at the same time it is also the only true conflict that can`t be overpowered and is inherited within. Meta knowledge, preparations and powers can give you easy victory in battle but they can`t solve any of those harem conflicts.

>>4758600
I don't think you should put jason and morgan in the same tier anon. Morgan voluntarily did what she did to arturia and mordred. The only shitty thing jason did to medea was abandon her despite all of her sacrifices to him. It's not like medea didn't get her revenge on jason either. Medea only turned crazy because of the gods.

>>4758611
Thats true in an objective manner, I was more trying to refer to that those who have "hurt" some of our loved ones are not auto disqualified from life if they can become somewhat not autistic to us.

If Morgan who does not really seem to want "redemption" only to stay at Mordreds side (?maybe??), and Jason who Medea blames a lot for, cover both objective and subjective wrongs that can be forgiven with correct circumstances...

>>4758606
>From meta view she gave Satsuki place in story and chance to partake in Shinji.
Yes, had Satsuki not been turned, would there have been anybody who wanted to take her with you to the dangerous Fuyuki City? Or would you have just forced her to watch as you disappeared off with another woman?
From a purely meta-perspective, Satsukifags should love Alt, if I'm being honest.

>>4758459
>Contain the burning artificial star with a barrier of Truth!

>>4758479
Arcueid

>>4758539
Black hole has the same gravity as a star of the same mass ffs.

>>4758592
Sure, now bring up what Shuten, Medusa and all the other girls did.

>>4758615
We just need to make Alt apologize to satsuki.

>>4758620
If Morgan's forced apology and mega-CSing was okay, so can a...forced apology from Alt. Arc and Vritra can help.

>>4758613
Ah sorry anon i must have sped read your argument. I do agree with what you said though.

>>4758625
Sure.
Arc will beat her up regardless.

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>>4758620
>>4758625

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>>4758630
>Arc will beat her up regardless.

>>4758631
Kek, thought of the same thing

Did we get Vritra mount as a Rider or do we need to...ride...her more?

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>>4758664
I wonder...

>>4758664
>"Oh, you can truly ride me...? Hmmph, you just keep getting more and more interesting, my sweet... rider."
Anon.

>>4758666
Is that thing on her bottom lip that isn't centered a piercing?

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>>4758670
Courtesy of Indra, I believe.

>>4758675
Vritra as Dragon mentor for Alitheia?

What if we mount vritra, vritra mounts medusa and medusa mounts Pegasus?

>>4758684
>vritra mounts medusa
Virtra has no Riding skill.

>>4758684
The poor horse will break bro

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>>4758687
She wants to change that.

I’m confused desu.

This is overflow chamber, right, so next one should be elemental chamber of earth.

It might be the normal function for the overflow, what we’re seeing us excess heat from mass summon getting dissipated, as Orochi is running some juice into the machine.
Or it might be our summoning made it go haywire.

In either case, what can we do? Try to take the dissipating power and try to truth edit it into something? It probably won’t have link to control functions we could exploit.

Imma say...

>>4758459
Keep running! To the next chamber!

>>4758675
Love the character but man that messes with my ocd

If we are being autistic about Riding.
Vritra can be big dragon and you need special skill to ride her so only we can use her as mount. I don`t think we can be counted as mount at least until we become part dragon with Dragon Core. After that Medusa can piggyback ride us and use her skill for it. With Medusa being Medusa she can be count as mount so we have another slot open for somebody with Riding and ability to ride Medusa with all her divine and Gorgon parts. Medea has blessing but no Riding skill. Other characters with high Riding we know have no blessing for it. Maybe Alítheia can do it, she is a smart girl.

>>4758692
She's my new second wife

>>4758682
I’m not sure if she’d be good influence with the amount of vore innuendos. She can be the naughty aunt.

>>4758514
I think some might be upset that Sakura won a confession in what some have considered a power up vote. The kiss was kind of smuggled in like a corrupt piece of legislation.

I want to make it up to Medea, she must be on a rollercoaster today.

Anyway, there are no worst girls.
Although Altrouge owes a life debt to Sacchin even if she doesn’t know it yet.

>>4758707
>she must be on a rollercoaster today.
A reminder that she was only rescued from Manaka this morning by our Outer God friend. It is also saved us from fighting her corrupted version as well.

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>>4758709
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Our HS form should get an Epiphany in the Jaws of Death type Skill too, with all the autistic write-ins desperately adjusting for everything and wringing out value. I think.

>>4758707
>I want to make it up to Medea, she must be on a rollercoaster today.
People call me biased, but I definitely agree about that. Both Sakura and Medea will see what we've done today as a betrayal when they find out, and they will find out. We need to talk to them the MOMENT we stop running around to save the world and our friends.

>>4758709
>It is also saved us from fighting her corrupted version as well.
Yeah, but then we could have given her a powerup.
It's harder to just ask her if she wants one than to give one when saving them.

>>4758709
A horrifying prospect to be sure

>>4758714
I guess we owe him a beer for that.

Although had we not get her back the subsequent events would be so much different what if’s are a waste of thought. No alitheia, no scrutiny, no teleportation etc.

>>4758719
Ehhh...I am not worried at all at this point. It either works out or it doesnt. Too much good shit happened to regret anything. Also, Vritra and Suzuka are based and it was worth getting TPd by Orochi.

>>4758719
The problem is every other second some new bullshit pops up.
I bet the second we kill Orochi Manaka is gonna do some shit that will demand our full atention.

>>4758724
I wonder what everyone thought when we namedropped our bro Nyarly who saved Medea for us.

>>4758714
Can I really ever dislike him if his help end up creating Alítheia?
>>4758720
Giving her something special and unique would be perfect but we just have to wait and see how it goes. Medea was really interested in studying Truth so I think it will come to that point after War.

>>4758726
That is NOT the attitude we've had in all the life-or-death situations we've been into. Why half-ass our relationship with the women we love, when it's arguably even more important?

>>4758728
I really hope not. We've been running non-stop for days now. And we beat Manaka's big play to kill Gil. There SHOULD be some rest for us after this.

>>4758728
Knowing the QM, we have 5 minutes after we kill orochi before shit happens.
We also need right after this to talk to waver and unfuck iskandar.

>>4758733
My worry and stress response has burned outt and I chilled out autist.

>>4758733
>That is NOT the attitude we've had in all the life-or-death situations we've been into.
Speak for yourself.

>>4758736
Too much worrying and it just stopped. Enjoy what one can, strive perfectly and continue no matter what without worry or fear.

>>4758736
I will accept that if you've been just as chilled out with all the bad things we've narrowly avoided in the forest. It would mean you're just a more chill anon than me.

Me? I worry. I worry about suffering worse than dead ends in battle. I worry about making girls cry. Worrying is what I do at this point. Make fun of me if you wish, but paranoia and autism has gotten us through some pretty nasty spots today.

Man this haremshit discussion literally happens every thread and it ends the same way too
No point stressing until Orochi is kill and perhaps Manaka gets dealt with too

>>4758734
I can't wait till we get some rest, this constant action and plot twists start to become a little tiresome.

>>4758745
There is only so much one can worry, at least for me. I appear to have reached my quota.

>>4758747
Manaka left is for headpats and hand holding

>>4758751
Based

>>4758751
Manaka right is for BDSM and Tickle play?

>>4758754
Rope bondage and tickle specifically

>>4758754
Vritra Anti-Evil of Humanity, Anti-Beast gonna roll Manakas?

>>4758759
Id say its a toss up

>>4758747
I agree instead of discussing potential strategies we just repeat this same old haremshit argument. I used to have fun with the harem discussions but at this point its too autistic.

Damn it! You're not just going to keep racing around Orochi's Ritual Chambers like some sort of Cornered Rat, you can still escape the gravitational pull of this false star right now, but you won't have as much luck it you allow it to continually increase in mass! "Vritra! Take us to the Central Chamber now! We can't keep running around! We have what we need to take him on now!"

"I really hope you've got something good planned, my sweet rider." Vritra is of course still unaware of your plans with Suzuka and her calculation abilities, but she seems to trust you enough that she adjusts course and begins to sprint towards the passageway leading to the Central Chamber, her speed is incredible, and with every step she takes, there's a sonic boom as her jet-like steps propel her with inhuman speed. You're glad that Vritra is on your side and not Orochi's right now. Even if she's grown a lot more powerful since you applied a concept to her, if she was truly willing to serve the Snake God, you would've been completely doomed from the start. Especially because if she wasn't willing to hear you out, she would've just immediately devoured you as she threatened you with. You're thankful that Orochi, despite functioning on incredible intelligence of Zolgen Makiri, is still just as incapable of instilling loyalty. Fear, perhaps, but to try to quell Heroic Spirits into working for you out of fear is a doomed ambition, even if you did get a Heroic Spirit cowardly enough to agree to something like that, they'd only be doing so for as long as it would take for them to perfectly scheme to find a way to get rid of you.

Then there's beings like Vritra, who Orochi believed himself to have actually managed to form some small sort of alliance with her, but it seems that he really misjudged the intentions of the Dragon that enjoys watching humanity overcome obstacles. Honestly, for somebody supposed to be so smart, Orochi sure is stupid. Then again, maybe you just can't truly appreciate the big-brain it requires to continually be betrayed by every single person who is working for you over and over again, because the person you're trying to defeat is both more charismatic than you and is capable of breaking the contracts you have with them with relative ease. If he was smart, he'd probably have started to place curses of death within the Master-Servant links to activate upon their destruction, but actually, even if he bothered doing something like that, it wouldn't have done anything to Vritra anyway, considering her immortal and eternal nature. Oh well, sucks to suck, Orochi.

Honestly, if that neutron star style compression was actually meant to wipe you out, then it was a very poor attempt. You would've at least expected Orochi to have like, tried to seal the chamber to stop you from just waltzing right out of there. Then again, maybe it was just an autonomous process after all? It's possible that after you messed with the summoning array, it was activated and this was the result, a massive release of enough energy to potentially destroy the entire fortress! It's a good thing that the overflow chambers were constructed, if that was the case. Even if it means that it makes actually destroying the place a damn sight harder, it also means that the immense amount of energy contained within ELIXIR will have a place to flow to, and won't simply flow through the anchor back in Fuyuki, which would cause a small build-up of energy likely so great that it would cause the entire Eurasian Tectonic Plate to be completely shattered, effectively ending all life in two entire continents. Which... really wouldn't be a good thing. At least with these chambers though, it should be possible to safely deactivate ELIXIR. Of course, there's a small part of you that wants to keep ELIXIR and this fortress to yourself, but you get the feeling that Orochi will have at least taken precautions against that, and as lame as it sounds, you can very much imagine him installing a self-destruct circuit out of spite. He basically tried to do that to Sakura, after all.

'Alright. Suzuka, we're going to be heading to ELIXIR now, I didn't get to explain earlier, but I have the ability to imbue and infuse beings and also objects with concepts. While my abilities used to be impermanent, I appear to be capable of manifesting a concept that can last forever on something if the concept is one that has great compatibility with them. So I'm offering you the chance to choose which concept you'd like to be imbued with, though I'm not saying you need to have it if you don't want one or can't think of one.' You give Suzuka a quick rundown of your abilities. It's not exactly going into as much detail as you can on them, but it should do the trick for actually explaining how they work. Suzuka might act stupid all the time, but in reality she's nowhere near as stupid as the act she puts on makes her appear to be, and Blessing of Wisdom only increases her level of intelligence, though it increases it to such a point where she is forced to regret the stupid act she puts on, even if it's only an act. She's simply too intelligent when she draws on her Second Noble Phantasm to even be able to pretend, which is actually kind of hilarious in its own way.

A concept? And like... you're saying you can use it to make me stronger? Then... how about attractive? Oh! How about popular! Or maybe cool? Best girlfriend, maybe? Would that like, be a good concept?' Suzuka just suggests multiple useless concepts, you don't really know what you were expecting here. 'Uh... Well, like, if you can think of something good that will make me better, then maybe you can think of something? Though if I had to say the best concept from my perspective right now...' You don't hold your breath.

'Would it by any chance be 'JK'?' You mentally sigh as you can tell from Suzuka's slightly shocked reaction that you were entirely right. You take a look ahead, and you can see that Vritra is fast approaching what looks like a large glowing blue wall blocking the way to the Central Chamber. It doesn't seem to be moving though, and you suppose that you'll have time to apply a concept to Suzuka.

>Apply a concept to Suzuka.
>>Attractive
>>Popular
>>Cool
>>Girlfriend
>>JK
>>Something else... (Pick this one) (What?)
>Don't apply a concept to her, she should be able to cope with ELIXIR with just her Noble Phantasms.
>>4758774
Oh god, I messed up the formatting and I deleted my own post.
Also, that's great!

What if, and what if. JK is genius because it grounds her in humanity and lets her Trichilio go lot longer?

>>4758775
>>>JK
Sure why not

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>yfw

SURELY THIS TIME

This is usually where Niggerman comes up with something incredibly fitting and overpowered.
Any other autist know anything about her?

>>4758775
>Don't apply a concept to her, she should be able to cope with ELIXIR with just her Noble Phantasms.
All of those are useless. We never came up with something good enough in autism overnight discussions. We were counting on asking her, ideally after she'd gotten big brained. But she'll have limited time to do what she needs to do when she's big brained, and we won't have the 10 seconds then. Let's just get this over with.

>>4758783
pic title was you all along.

>>4758776
Apparently JK gives her a legit power up
Like how her supernatural power B rank skill gets turned to B+ in FGO

She is the Daughter of the Demon King of the Fourth Heaven so she is either some kind of Deva/Asura thing also, or a kind of nasu Oni like Ibuki and Shuten.

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>>4758784
Just choose what your heart tells you is right.

>>4758784
There was some discussion of possible concepts of her yesterday night. "Deva" and "Wisdom" were pretty much the only proposed concepts. Deva would turn her, the daughter of a demon king, into a goddess, probably, with unknown results. WhatIs confirmed Wisdom would obliterate her original personality. We settled on asking her because no one could come up with something better.

Niggerman is wageslaving for free. Can't count on him to come and save us.

>>4758775
What the fuck is JK

>>4758784
>>4758785
>>4758792
For OPness what I came up with was Myohi for Wisdom Queen which is a Protective, Wordly, Wrathful aspect of a Bodhisattva so she could use her Trichilio while remaining in the World, similarly to that Deva to syncretize her more with Hindu influenced Shinto instead of Buddhism influenced.

The problem is, she doesn't seem to really want to emphasize those aspects and we were kinda "warned" against seeking to create power purely instead of happiness with our power. Don't know if that was a joke or actual warning.

>>4758775
>Don't apply a concept to her, she should be able to cope with ELIXIR with just her Noble Phantasms.
None of these are very useful.

>>4758775
>JK
If for no other reason than curiosity about what imbuing someone with the concept of JK would do

>Duality
Something to allow her to switch between her personalities at will and anchor them together to avoid burned away by her Noble Phantasms.
Could result in Alter Ego or split-personality. But she already do that all the time.
>Deva
Was suggested by Anons before in previous thread.
>Clarity
She has the aptitude for it. Not that strong but could make her more serious.
>Yogini
Half-Divinity option essentially.
>Mindfulness
"Buddhism Lite" and will not delete her from reality and Wheel Of Samsara.
>Insight
B̵l̷o̶o̶d̴b̷o̸r̵n̴e̸ haha. But it would be more of buff to her calculations. Making them closer to Hard AI rather than Soft/Fast AI.

I don`t remember much of special buddhist concepts but maybe somebody still do.
I`ll support the most helpful option as I see it.

>>4758800
We were warned against applying just "Wisdom". I am absolutely certain what you propose would obliterate her original personality as well. I view this the same as killing her. Let's not do that.

>>4758775
>JK

inb4 super powerup

>>4758799
Joshi Kousei which means high school gal

>>4758799
Joshi kosei which means high school girl in nip.

If I were to make a random guess, I'd say a concept that may be "powerful enough" an "compatible enough with her wishes" should be...Love? Since she seeks love even to the extent of acting completely different to her "true personality" which is serious and relatively dour, by assuming the aspect of what she thinks would bring her the most happiness through love.

Ishtar, Inanna, Astarte, Aphrodite Areia are all both War and Love (or Sex) Goddesses, for example, and probably lot of Hindu ones too.

>>4758806
Duality sounds like something that would give her legit split personality. Clarity, mindfulness and Insight are opposite concepts to her current personality, which means she gets twisted into something completely different. Messing with divinities has always been a bad idea previously.

We don't have to try for powergaming all the time. Suzuka has a full personality, and she's happy with the way she is. We don't have the right to rewrite her just because we want a power up.

>>4758799
Joshikosei

High School slut Girl

>>4758775
>JK

>>4758806
I'd rather use Rishika than Yogini. Rishi are OP as fuck, one cursed Indra so hard all the Devas lost their immortality, and they're just human dudes that are super magic enlightened.

>>4758817
That's some stupid shit.
>>4758775
Pick one, Gyaru

>>4758814
Love probably qualifies as something compatible with her, but it's not really much better than what she proposed herself. It'll be equally useless against the supercomputer, and probably turn her into something like Medusa's sisters.

>>4758815
I don't know if I'd call her "happy the way she is" given her GO profile.

"A selfish, simplistic, talented woman who “seriously” plays a galgal high school girl.
Her original character is the exact opposite of a JK - a prudent, down to earth, dignified princess.
Although possessing the cruelty of a princess of heavenly demons, she is proud and honest towards her roles and duties.
...on the other hand, she also has a personality prone to melancholy in which said honesty and cleverness cause her to feel depressed towards the wicked attributes of a “daughter of oni”, in an autotoxemia sort of way.
One could describe her as a listless class-representative that is gifted with both intelligence and beauty, but also somewhat negative. Still, it seems that such true character has been mostly concealed thanks to her JK-acting."

>>4758824
Basically she is takes her duties as a "princess of demons" seriously and acts that way, but kinda doesn't like how a "princess of demons" has to act because she is kinda good, but also feels like she has to exemplify acting as she is supposed to.

>>4758824
Yes, she is a shallow jk fox right now. But it is her choice. She IS happy. She does not want to change, to go back to being a prudent dignified princess. Every concept she proposed for herself merely enhances her current self. She would have asked us if she really wanted to change her fundamental personality like that.

All of these sound horrible. Well, maybe Cool would be cool. Would it come with free sunglasses?

JK she might be compatible with but how would it be helpful?

Hmm... what could actually work though
Insight, to reinforce her wisdom NP, allow her to employ her powers more effectively?
Quantum or Parallel calculation to give her a boost in performance and ability to overwhelm defenses in her way?
Anticipation to allow her to neutralize counterattacks?
Imperceptibility to allow her to infiltrate the enemy? Although that might clash with her personality too much.

>>4758775
>JK

>>4758815
>>4758820
>>4758828
How about self-determination? If we assume she is torn between different aspects of herself and her Noble Phantasms erode her sense of self this will be strong boost her sense of self. The one she wants at the moment.

I am half-curious to see if her JK LARP can be turned into mellow SOL VN protagonist powers.

>>4758775
>JK
Hey, if its what she wants.

>>4758828
That is a reading.

Honestly, JK may be the secret OP choice anyway, if our Truth really is the 6th Magic that is supposed to bring happiness.

I propose Artha, from the Hindu concepts.

Artha is "As a concept, it has multiple meanings, all of which imply "means of life", activities and resources that enable one to be in a state one wants to be in."

Just enable her to create whatever state she wants for herself. She wants to be a JK? Makes her super JK. She wants to change her true self? Go ahead. She wants to be happy without changing her true self somehow? Artha covers any goal.

>>4758775
>JK

Opinions on concept of Deception?

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>>4758835
>I propose Artha

>>4758775
ah screw it. If it is what she wants then it's what she's going to get.

>JK

Worst case she'll be useless in the fight but at least she'll be happy. Hopefully.

>>4758833
I was writing another long post about why we shouldn't mess with others just because we want a power up, but I actually think Self-Determination is great now. She was born a princess. She CHOSE to become a JK girl, to reject her roots. She chose to define her life how she wants, not how others would want her to.

Nothing proposed so far fits her more than Self Determination does.

>>4758835
How about just Self-Determination? It should enable her to do the same thing. We don't have to go for the weird esoteric concepts all the time.

30 minutes.

>>4758835
Certain readings of Artha, which make me think of it being good idea are the following:

"Artha, then, is best described as pursuit of activities and means necessary for a joyous and pleasurable life."

"...it is an attitude and necessary requirement of human life."

>>4758840
I feel like Artha is just a more complete version of Self-Determination, as it not only includes your own will, but also the means such as resources, opportunities and environments by which with to conduct your own life and desires without conflicting with moraltiy(Dharma) and Kama(Desire)

It is self-determination, resourcefulness, cleverness and actual physical means.

>>4758835
>>4758840
We are on the same side with that idea, I guess?

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>>4758838

>>4758775
>Apply a concept to Suzuka.
>Self-Determination

>>4758775
>Apply a concept to Suzuka.
>>Self-Determination

>>4758844
I think if I were to articulate my problem with this, is that it's a weird esoteric concept that does not fit with her mythology. Asha worked so great for Vritra because there was a connection, and a pretty damn good connection too. What connection does a hindu concept has with the daughter of a Japanese demon?

>>4758775
>>Something else... (Pick this one) (Artha)

Let's give her not just the mental ability but the wordly ability to choose. If she wishes to change herself but cannot or doesn't want to change her nature, lets give her the will AND the resources and skills to create a harmonious outcome even so.

Power, skill, will and cleverness enough will let you create happiness.

>>4758775
switching from >>4758839
to >>4758840

Although I do hope we aren't gonna miss the slot if OP follows through on the idea of making concepts only be applicable once.

>>4758775
>>4758833
>>Self-Determination
That sounds good, I’ll vote for it

>>4758781
>>4758775
Changing to self determination, you guys are right she should choose who she wants to be, also JK in her eyes is just the current standard of beauty and that standard always changes

>>4758852
??? What is a Demon King of the Fourth Heaven? Did you think Nobunaga's Demon King title was Japanese not Buddhist? Mara is a buddhist demon and its the name of one of her potential NPs, Papiyas (Mara) Metamorphosis

>>4758853
Liberation gave Enkidu the means to liberate himself. Supremacy gave Nobu the means to, well, Supreme? Whatever, you get the point. Going for weird esoteric terms ONLY because we think it'll be more powerful than the equivalent mundane term, with absolutely no connection to who she is, does not strike me as a good idea.

>>4758857
Hinduism and Buddhism are not the same, anon. Even if they're in the same region.

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>>4758859
>Supremacy gave Nobu the means to, well, Supreme
Supremeing is her preferred way to spend the time.

>>4758860
It's all the fucking same who gives a shit

>>4758860
They are literally nearly the same. They both use the same cosmological concepts, such as Buddhism having Indra and co, their theory of interdependent-origination being illustrated by "Indra's Net". They have the same pantheons, only Buddhists say the Devas and Ashuras are all created and limited beings.

Buddha nature, Tathāgatagarbha, is literally just Brahman in some sects of Hinduism where there is no Atma, individual soul, and there are a lot of Hindu sects.

Reincarnation nearly the same except one escapes by Nirvana and extinguishing other by enlightenment and realizing Atman=Brahman and becoming God.

>>4758834
>>4758775
Changing to
>Self-Determination

>>4758864
Yeah, that's not the proper attitude when going for weird esoteric concepts. There were paragraphs of autism justifying why Asha fit Vritra. There was a really fucking good connection, much better than "Meh, buddhism, hindusm, who gives a shit?"

>>4758866
>>4758860
It's like saying that when some Buddhist sects said, and convinced people, in some eras of Japan that Kami are the pre-human, absolutely pure and natural incarnations of Buddhas as opposed to Bodhisattvas and Wisdom Kings that are human aspected manifestations of Buddhas who are uncreated, existent, nonexistent, not(existend and nonexistent) and not(existent or nonexistent).

This was actually a doctrine held in great value in japanese society at some point where buddhism was stronk, there are gigashittons of mutual colourings between all these religions and philosophies, including Taoism and original native chinese myths like Pang'u

>>4758775
>>4758819
>Self-Determination
Sure, why not. I'll switch to it.

>>4758866
>They are literally nearly the same
I do not see them that way, and our perspectives on this are way too different for me to even try and argue the point.

I won't deny they are connected and influenced each other over the centuries. But I don't see this as nearly enough here.

>>4758868
I'll just chill back down and laugh when the harem containment breaks and spills everywhere.

The true nature of autism has been rejected.

>>4758775
>Apply a concept to Suzuka.
>Self-Determination

Mostly because we are on fast timer here and I am worse with remembering Buddhism than I am with Zoroastrianism like with Asha and few cross checks in online sources.

>>4758775
>Apply a concept to Suzuka.
>Self-Determination

12 minutes.
Please remember that just because you can flex your big brain to apply esoteric concepts to people, it doesn't always mean that such concepts will be the best for your current situation, and trying to stretch a concept having it encompass multiple different concepts may mean whatever they end up with is more jack of all trades then specialized power.
Also what's winning right now?

>>4758880
>The true nature of autism has been rejected.
I see it the same as when we gave Liberation to Enkidu. That was autistic enough. We didn't go digging for some weird esoteric concept that would mean liberation+something else. And it worked. It gave him everything he needed. I don't see why it Self-Determination wouldn't work just as well here.

RE: harem containment breaking: What?

>>4758885
Pretty sure it's Self-Determination.

>>4758885
Self determination really isn't esoteric, plus it fits her really well

>>4758887
>>4758733
I tried to worry again, but I was shown the error of my ways. Thanks.

>>4758885
Self-Determination.is winning.

>>4758775
>JK
Give em what they want.

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>>4758880
>>4758892
Look at it the other way too.
Would you trust Suzuka with the amount of power Vritra got? I am certainly don`t feel that sure about it.
Despite her evil dragon antics Vritra is still much more in favour of humans and sympathizes with them than windy JK fox.

>>4758892
I actually think you weren't worried enough. Rewriting people has inherent dangers, and going for weird esoteric terms willy-nilly is the opposite of worrying about the consequences.

Don't be discouraged that we didn't adopt your autism. All the best autism has been the result of discussion. Plenty of the Nigger's proposals have been changed numerous times to fix the problems other people saw. My proposals too. It's a natural part of the collaborative thing we're doing here.

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Just looked at the Joffrey Self Insert quest in more detail after they misarchived me.
Holy shit, the cope and seethe about me is real.

We also must remember we cant repeat concepts, so if we use one now we cant use it later.

>>4758906
Link it

>>4758906
Elaborate? Are they really wasting time getting angry at someone else?
>>4758775
>self-determination

>>4758906
>Holy shit, the cope and seethe about me is real.
The envy of second place. Their tears are delicious.

>>4758909
Please don't link it WhatIs. Anyone who wants to find it can look at the catalogue.

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>>4758907
Then better think of some ahead of time.
Iskandar we just ask Waver.
Can anyone think of something for Diarmuid? I feel bad for the guy.

>>4758868
>>4758879
>>4758901

If you don't feel it is right, or don't agree with the conclusion reached by the data, or want to do it because reason X that's one thing. But I did post lots of actual connections and shit. There IS data for the autism, if they so accept or deny it, but the data itself is there.

For real autism there is The Nature of Kami by Ueda Akinari and Tandai Shoshin Roku who connect japanese Kami to both Buddhist and Taoist beliefs. I may not always autism, but when I do, I do it seriously.

>>4758906
What'd they say? Also kinda funny since that quest only started cause of your quest

>>4758907
True, but I don't see anyone else we could apply this to that would fit. Shouldn't be a problem.

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>>4758906
A Sneed of Feed and Seed

>>4758775
I'll chuck a vote for Self Determination if there's time, just finished reading everything after waking up.

jannie mode soon

Looks like ImBatman is participating in that quest.

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>>4758913
The concept of Fortune

Lancer/Saber of 4chan

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>>4758906
At this point I want Sweets to return not so much for Redux Awakening itself but to see how further him having 3-4 threads will drive other people. Will somebody properly rise to the challenge after that? Nobody is doing any serious obstacles overcoming right now.

>>4758913
Diarmuid will be perfectly fine if we just break his curse. He doesn't need a concept to be happy. We could give him Luck though, I suppose.

>>4758914
But I didn't say you did autism wrong. I merely disagreed with you and the conclusion you reached regarding the connections. I did not intent it as a personal slight, and I apologise if you took it that way.

>>4758911
I think my favourite thing is the QM writing about how Fate is a series for coomers and degenerates and pedophiles when he's an Akun QM writing a Game of Thrones quest with book ages.
Where they had Joffrey french kiss Cersei while he was 12.
There's like no self-reflection going on there at all.
Funny stuff.

>>4758913
the concept of not jobbing
then find a way to unfuck his curse.

>>4758927
>then find a way to unfuck his curse.
Chiyome headpats him, the end.

>>4758926
Heh, seems like some funny autism.

>>4758925
How the fuck can we read two vastly different things into the same text I have no idea anymore.

The main thing that meant that, for me, was:
>>4758868
>There was a really fucking good connection, much better than "Meh, buddhism, hindusm, who gives a shit?"


Lets just wait for the results at this point.

So what won, Self-Determination?

>>4758933
...I was answering a different anon who LITERALLY said "It's all the same, who gives a shit". There's a reason that was not directed at you.

>>4758935
Gyaru JK

>>4758935
Yeah

>>4758933
Sakuraman was responding to a third anon who said "shit's all the same", not you m8

>>4758938
>>4758939
Well, which one is it?

>>4758926
>self-reflection
Now that would have been real gut punch for Suzuka.

>>4758927
>>4758923
>>4758925
The guy could use some luck.
Hell, tons of Lancers could.
It would be cool if he could multiclass. He fought with 1 of each, not 2 spears/swords.

>>4758942
Self-Determination, but you should count if you're not sure.

>>4758941
>>4758937
I see then, well, thats my bad then. I must have assumed it was a continuation of this. Sorry.
>>4758860

>>4758942
Looks like self-determination has 11 votes and JK has 5

>>4758943
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhi_(Hindu_thought)

There's this for future use I guess

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>>4758948
Alright then. tl;dr to clear the air: I insist Buddhism and Hinduism are not the same. But you never claimed that. You claimed they are connected, and I can't deny they are. I just disagreed that that connection was strong enough to apply here.

We cool, fren?

>>4758956
And if we ever want to give Medea powers to walk higher dimensions with us we can give her Hyperuranion or Poiesis.

Oh shuten got a new costume

>>4758963
Yes, but its like saying Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic or Protestant arent the same. 100% true, but there is a LOT of overlap.

We cool.

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>>4758969
Yeah it looks nice

>>4758967
So is the true endgame to reverse Isekai Medea into IRL Earth?

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>>4758972
Dangerous

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Jeanne looks great too, though I'll never understand why she's considered a top servant and in the same league as Artoria, Iskandar and Karna when she doesn’t really have that wow factor they have

>>4758985
The power to commit suicide to kill anyone is great in a normal grail war.
It means you can kill both Jeanne and the last remaining Servant with one command spell.

>>4758988
Well, actually, Jeanne has EX rank magic resistance, so that wouldn't work.
I guess you just need to convince her to an hero instead.
Shouldn't be that hard.

>>4758985
The talk of Top Servants reminded me of the existence of Saber Venus Nero

>>4758985
>>4758988
Last thread I got the feeling not a lot of people here like Jeanne.
Why is that?

>>4758985
You must be kidding, it's typical Takeuchi garbage
Just look at the left hand and the posing.
The headpiece is shit too, but the dress is okay

>>4758988
Still nowhere near enough to be compared to Iskandar who can summon a whole army of heroic spirits or Karna who's a nuke. Her NP is kinda situational, if she's forced to use it early on then yeah she killed the threat but now she's dead too

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>>4758972
>>4758980
It's nice, but I would've liked if they gave us her Jiangshi or Punk costume instead

>>4758985
>The same fucked up hand from Shinjiku Jeanne Alter and Jeanne Summer
No. Takeuchi turned into a lazy piece of shit who keeps doing the same pose over and over again.

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>>4758996
Oh I fucking love Jeanne, she's one of my favorites, but she's not a really good servant, especially compared to the other options who have better utility and fire power, plus she wouldn't be ok with what we're trying to do, she's against servants leading and staying alive

>>4758997
The dress looks pretty

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>>4758995
Read that as Sailor Venus Nero for a second.

>>4758997
Headpiece looks like she stole something meant to decorate a table in order to wear.

>>4758996
People don't really like Jeanne for being a far more boring Saber who accomplishes basically nothing through the entire story.
Also she apparently somehow exorcises Jack from the Throne too, but that just doesn't work thanks to FGO.

>>4758985
TAKEUCHI AGAIN WITH THE SUMMER JANNU HAND POSE

SOMEONE STOP THIS MAN

>>4759006
I would've maybe liked Jeanne more if she just wasn't pretty much useless.
Then again, there's really only so much you can do with "Really famous girl who is most famous for getting people to rally behind her before getting incinerated after being tied to a stick."

>>4759000
That reminds me

We need to buy matching Bad Girl outfits for Abby and Betty

>>4758972
looks delicious