The Grail War continues, and you've found yourself face to face with a newly born Fairy Queen.You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have shifted the future away from the one that you once would have faced and instead onto one of uncertainty and chaos.The Fifth Holy Grail War lies ahead of you, and the challenge and danger it represents to you, the people you care for and the world itself is far greater than you could have ever predicted. Though the grail might be corrupted and the war itself might be a sham, the stakes couldn't be higher.Archive of Paradox Reincarnator: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Fate/Paradox%20ReincarnatorGeneral QM Archive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=WhatIsAQMStatus Menu: https://pastebin.com/AcNswEHqShinji Status Page: https://pastebin.com/a6fiNxrZMy Twitter: https://twitter.com/WhatIsAQMLast Thread: >>4735940
"You're real, Saber. You may not be Arturia Pendragon, and you may not have been created to be an original being, but as you are now, you are real. The only thing holding you back from acknowledging that yourself is that you have yet to forge yourself an identity of your own. You may looks like her, but that should not be a deciding factor in what you are. You are your own person." You decide to give what you had once assumed to be Saber Alter a branch to grab onto. Personal hope for the being that represents hope."You..." The girl who used to be Saber Alter looks at you, though the name Saber Alter really doesn't fit her anymore, at least not as a way to refer to her, she's not an altered version of Saber, after all, but something that was based on her that has become completely different. Perhaps Saber Fairy would do for now? It's a better name than Saber Alter, at least, and seeing as she's got those huge butterfly wings now, she probably won't mind. "You really mean that...?""Of course I do, Saber. Your origins don't matter, in truth, the origins of few things do in the end. You are alive, and you exist just as much as the 'original' version of yourself does. You're a person, Saber. You aren't just some toy to be played with and discarded." You give the fairy winged girl a warm smile, approaching her slowly as you do. You don't want her to take any sudden actions with that Excalibur of hers. While you've managed to placate her with your words somewhat, you don't want her to react poorly to your approach.She looks at your hand in curiosity as you reach out to her, and doesn't move or act as you pat the top of her head. You seem to have developed a bad habit of doing this to vulnerable people, and you know that it will probably eventually backfire on you, but not this time. Saber Fairy doesn't seem to understand how to react as you pat her soft blonde hair with your hand, lightly messing up the hair as you do. "I don't know if you're going to need one, but if you want, I can have a contract set up for you so-" You're about to offer Saber Fairy the chance to become a Servant, though you aren't certain she needs it, it's likely that as a fairy, she's at least being given some magical energy from Gaia itself, and isn't suffering the same rejection that Heroic Spirits suffer from. But as you do...'Advisor!' A panicked voice blasts into your head, as Mordred basically yells through the makeshift mental link, before calming down. 'Advisor... Something has gone wrong, we were doing battle against a man with black armor and that Siegfried guy you were talking about, and then... Alcides and Jason! Alcides seized up for a moment, trying to resist what looked like a command spell, but then he stabbed Archer through the chest and fled! At that point, I used my Noble Phantasm to drive the two of them off, but...'
'I'm fine, by the way. It's not exactly pleasant, but the wound wasn't a fatal one.' EMIYA's voice comes through the mental link now, and you're at least relieved that he isn't dead. After all, if he had somehow kicked the bucket, not only would you have lost a reliable ally and the future version of your friend, but also, Manaka would've gained a powerful tool to use against you.'You're all currently safe then, right?' You want to confirm that nobody in the powerful group has actually managed to get themselves wounded.'Right. We're all a little worse for wear, but no casualties. I was trying to say that my Noble Phantasm seemed to have a limited effect on the man in the black armor. Almost as if he was... resistant to it. What's more, I don't know why, but it... seems like he recognized me too. Though I've never seen him before.' Mordred sounds deeply concerned by things as they are right now. Though you can't blame her, you're just as concerned. Why would Alcides betray you? What could've led him to do such a thing? This is deeply worrying, and you feel like you somehow missed something.'I-is this how you activate this?' suddenly, Satsuki's voice comes through the mental link. 'That's right, what's up, Satsuki?' You don't know why somebody from Rin's house would get involved in this conversation, but Satsuki might have some news to share that is relevant, in fact, she almost certainly does have something relevant to say.'I was with the red eyed girl... Illyasviel, a few seconds ago and... and she started acting really strangely. She started treating all her maids like slaves, before she commanded... I think she was called Leysritt...? To carry her off somewhere...' You grit your teeth together. You have a really really bad feeling about all of this. You can tell that you're going to need to make a decision immediately, and looking at Iskandar Alter, you don't know if it's worth trying to purify him first, or trying to reunite with your allies to decide on your next steps.>Rendezvous with your allies. You need to get back with them all.>Have your allies rendezvous with you instead while you work on restoring Iskandar.>Tell your allies to meet you at the Einzbern Castle, or what's left of it, at least.>Ask one of the Servants if they can try and track down Illya or Alcides and Jason. Karna should be watching, right?>Write-in...
Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Manaka took control of the Lesser Grails. Is Sakura's Nullifcation strong enough to resist?
I have and will continue to hate Ishtar
>>4742180Why would Ishtar possess Illya now?
>trying to brute force activation of the Grail before war ends and using its connection to lesser grails to take control of them from afarClever move
>>4742146fix'd
So Enkidu probably exists too. Which chain summoned Ishtar in? We can't let Jason build his boat, in fact we're lucky that we didn't finish the thing. Odds are they're going to the port to finish it so Ishtar can gather all of the Argonauti under her thumb.I want to say just have Karna nuke the port, and have him shoot down evry single boat he can see too so they have no base to build the Argo from.>>4742183Drama, WhatIs was talking about it
i wonder if this is Acht controlling illya somehow.
Being Alcides is suffering.Also did posting just go down for like ten minutes?
I am 99% certain the man in black armor is Vortigern. Something that opposes Mordred's NP which is Caliburn? Vortigern's Anti-Holy Sword attribute. He seems to recognize her? Obvious.
>>4742190>Also did posting just go down for like ten minutes?yes
>>4742186Pafacto.
How do we actively diagnose the issue? Karna's able to I guess? if he can track her he can see whatever is fucking with her.Probably the best bet.If it is Ishtar he port and every single boat has to be deleted from this city.>>4742190I thought it was noscript suddenly fucking with 4chanx, it stopped when I turned it off but guess it happened to everyone
Should we contract iskandar with somone first? Or is it something that can be postponed for later.
>>4742187I still think it's Manaka. Why would Enkidu be summoned this moment? Why would Ishtar order Alcides to betray us?Drama is not an acceptable answer. Manaka taking control of the Lesser Grails and Sakura being in imminent danger is even more dramatic.Also, Knight in Black Armor could be Agravain or maybe Galahad. Both specialize in defense, Agravain already wears black armor, Galahad could have been twisted.>>4742190Yeah. I was wondering what's going on.
>>4742199Have Rin shove him in a pocket dimension, we do not have time for him.
>>4742200>Galahadcan't be summoned normally for a grail war, the dude already has the holy grail.
welp I guess Medea will now have legit excuse to bully Jason>Have your allies rendezvous with you instead while you work on restoring Iskandar.Probably better for them to get on the move and for us to try and ensure the alterification won't net us another stab in the back
>>4742199have rin chuck him in a dimensional box with some cheap weak gems to munch on if he needs mana to exist, but an absolute dripfeed at most.>>4742200Agravain should have an ability that cuts damage, he his epithet is Agravain Who Knew No Wounds. Thicc armour and he personally hates Mordred. But he is also loyal to the perfect king, who he saw as Artoria.
>>4742203Galahad Alter is mentioned in Requiem if that matters.
>>4742200So>its manaka>its ishtar, somehowdid we do kill Acht? i forgot, if not he may be controlling illya?
>>4742203Does this really look like a normal grail war to you?>>4742206He's a Servant to the man who created command seals and commands the power of a god, he can be brought to heel. Vortigern is a better guess as >>4742192 said though, he also has the dragon connection.
>>4742209Acth is alive, but has never shown an ability to remote control his homunculi like that. And he could have chosen a far better moment to do it.
>>4742206Why do we still not have Agravain as a Servant in FGO yet?
if illya is hurt i'm going vlad the impaler in whoever did it.
If it was Acht or Ishtar, why would they command Alcides to just stab EMIYA? Instead of you know, command sealing either to come back to them or just "Use your strongest NP to murder everyone present"?
>>4742173>Ask Medea to teleport Arc and Satsuki to you and commence an attack on Ryuudou Temple>Ask Mordred to drag the fight with Orochi's Servants to Waver's group and retreat to join the assault on temple
>Have Rin throw DUDE into gaybaby jail via the Second>Have Karna track Ilya with his Clairvoyance, and use Discernment of the Poor to assess what has come over her. Does she have a strong Divine presence? >Have Satsuki run to the basement and give a description of the map's lights as things are for full bearings of movements over the last few moments>based on the map readout/Karna's feedback then move allieslast one is probably next update.>>4742214Agravain is based, I love the guy and I wish him all the best.What did Alcides stab EMIYA with? I imagine he'd be dead if it was Hydra poison?
>>4742219It wasn't Hydra Poison.
>>4742219+1We need information and can't abandon the assault on Orochi, at least not without some really REALLY good cause.
Alright proposal:Check up on Sakura immediatelyHave Rin chuck Iskandar into a pocket dimension.Tell Mordred to keep pushing on Orochi, she has to keep up the pressure. Tell her the Black Knight is probably Vortigern or Agravain.Ask Karna for a sitrepGo save Illya from whatever's been done to herWhat the fuck do we even do if it's Manaka?
>>4742173>>4742219+1>>4742210>Does this really look like a normal grail war to you?I mean, he would refuse simply because he has no need for the grail, maybe if he was twisted, i dont know.An can please things stop happening so we ca kill orochi
>>4742219Wait a second. Can't we just phone/sticker Arc to capture them? She should be able to just take them down non lethally even if was actually Ishtar.
>>4742226And what's to stop Tesla, Cu and Bazett from sweeping the mansion of Arc leaves?
>>4742226we do need to ask karna first, the better would be to have a "ask karna" vote then have another vote depending of what he says.
>>4742221What did he stab him with?his... benis? finger? unnamed NP knoif?>>4742223Purifying kunai? Leys is low tier servant at best in speed. Checking up on Sakura is also probably important. We also need to tell Rin to give EMIYA a big flush of mana to get him back in the fray asap. Maybe even a cs heal. Having Mordred continue on is good.so:>Have Rin throw DUDE into gaybaby jail via the Second, have her send EMIYA a shitload of mana to heal or spend a cs to heal him and check her connection to ensure he's otherwise ok>Have Karna track Ilya with his Clairvoyance, and use Discernment of the Poor to assess what has come over her. Does she have a strong Divine presence? Manaka etc.>Have Satsuki run to the basement and give a description of the map's lights as things are for full bearings of movements over the last few moments>Tell Mordred to keep pushing on>fondle Sakura to assess her for any interference from Manaka>based on the map readout/Karna's feedback then move alliesAutisticly comprehensive enough?
>>4742228If Tesla Odin-Cu and whatever Bazett is swooped in, I don't think 50%-Bloodlustreduction% Arc could stop them desu. She's already halved by Orochi and holding back bloodlust like normal. Odin-Cu+Tesla would be not good odds for anything surviving in the city if they fought imo.
>>4742233This, but add a warning to Mordred about the Black Knights theorised identity.
>>4742233I'd like to at least inform Arc that some of our allies are compromised, just so she doesn't get surprised, just in case. Do we send Chiyome to run back for Illya too, or keep her close for Orochi? or you feel that is a post-readout/Karna info decision?
>>4742219>>4742173+1 on this one.Why must everyone in this war be a chessmaster with their own entire faction.We're going to need to adjust the Orochi strat.I hope Saber Fairy gets along with her sister Mordred.
>>4742233>>fondle Sakura to assess her for any interference from Manakaoh my>>4742173Also, change >>4742224 to >>4742233 with >>4742240warning.
>>4742240ah yes>>4742173>Have Rin throw DUDE into gaybaby jail via the Second, have her send EMIYA a shitload of mana to heal or spend a cs to heal him and check her connection to ensure he's otherwise ok>Have Karna track Ilya with his Clairvoyance, and use Discernment of the Poor to assess what has come over her. Does she have a strong Divine presence? Manaka etc.>Have Satsuki run to the basement and give a description of the map's lights as things are for full bearings of movements over the last few moments>Tell Mordred to keep pushing on. Warn her her target is likely Vortigern and he feeds on Holy Swords. Have her and allies avoid using Holy affinity things on him.>fondle Sakura to assess her for any interference from Manaka>based on the map readout/Karna's feedback then move alliesI'm saying Vortigern because she would recognise Agravain, they came to regular words often as he was always suspicious of her.
>>4742244Oh yeah, maybe warn Mordred and group that Saber Fairy is now on our side. And a composite Fairy-Human-Dragon.
>>4742233I'm hoping he just grab his arm and made him stab himself with Kanshou.
>>4742246>>4742173Support
>>4742173>>4742246Support>>4742234Arcueid hard counters Tesla, Electromagnetism is a natural force. Cu and Bazett will be tough, but Aoko's there too. Saber and Shirou are tired, but they both have a copy of Avalon and can stall for ages. Worse comes to worse, Satsuki can pull them all in her Reality Marble. I'm confident in the mansion's defenses as they are, there was a reason for The Plan. But without Arcueid, Tesla dabs on them all except Aoko.>>4742249She'll be with us probably, let's not distract them with unimportant details.
>>4742243We really need a scout in this forest, we'll see what the map says as we now own the last stray servant with PC so most if not all things should show.The risk of having anyone chase Ilya is they get mogged by Cu or something, if we're to assume this is Manaka's doing. If it's looking clear enough though we can send Chiyome to go grab Ilya and leave a substitution jutsu in Ley's arms before she realises, her PC won't drop below A+ as it's not a attack. Leys has to run past us almost so with her A agility Chiyome will catch up ez and Manaka can't know of Chiyome yet. Leys is running from the toesucker house, and if it is Manaka her destination would be the temple. Karna is short with words, we can make a decision quickly enough.
>>4742246+1 for whatever this nigger votes for now.
>>4742173Changing from>>4742222To>>4742246
>>4742260I'd prefer you critique me though so we can patch any holes in plans
>>4742262i was going to but you already fixed it.Anything else if better after we ask karna and get more info from the allies, we can't send our new assassin without that info
>>4742259A+ agility actually for Chiyomehttps://youtu.be/6E7ZGCfruaw
What are the odds that Manaka just decided to summon Enkidu Alter for her own Anti-Gil weapon?Could she be working together with Ishtar?Ishtar would find Enkidu fucked by grail mud hilarious I think.
>>4742262Does Mordred's team have enough firepower to still attack Orochi, if Alcides left them?
>>4742259Yes, Chiyome needs to be our eyes and ears in the forest. We still don't know what's up with Merlin's group or Fafnir. We can CS teleport Chiyome if we go after Illya ourselves and end up needing ninja bullshit.>>4742262I'm here for you, my nigga.
>>4742267Hadn't considered it was both, but based accelerationist option if so.Singularity F will soon be completely unavoidable >>4742268What was the full list?EMIYA, Mordred, Morgan, Sasaki, Medusa and I feel like I'm forgetting othersHonestly Medusa has the potential to at least hold off Orochi alone with clever use of Three Faces
>>4742267If Manaka can pull anything she wants out of the Grail, why would she limit herself on the 4th War Servants up till now?What would Ishtar have to gain by this?>>4742268They don't have enough firepower to defeat him, but they can at least cleave through his Servants and disrupt whatever he's doing.
>>4742271Billy and touko went with mordred's group i think.
>>4742271Ciel is the only one you forgot.
>>4742274Thats right
>>4742274Oh, right. They chose to go there. Lugh too.
We could also be overthinking Vortigern, Sumanai might just have Apocrypha memories and Armour of Fafnir does reduce damage. I checked her mats and her sword has no anti dragon properties that would help against AoF.But safer to assume it is Vortigern as he grows stronger every time he eats a holy sword. Mordred's Charisma is actually really important here as it stops Vortigern's despair effects from crippling the party.
>>4742275Touko, Lugh and Billy
Yeah, so the Orochi squad is still good enough to hold the line, may even delete a few of his servants. they should push on, if he gets a breather he'll do something worse yet again as WhatIs is very good at continuing to have antagonists rise to the power of autism planning
>>4742279Yeah, but Mordred said they are fighting Man in Black Armor AND Siegfried.>>4742271It would be funny if we're planning our next step and fucking Chaldea materializes from a different worldline desu. Even if its unrealistic.
>>4742279Siegfried and the Black Knight are different people. Armour of Fafnir isn't an aura, is it?And yes, while I expected ally buffs instead of countering a despair aura, Mordred being explicitly in command was not an accident.
>Specialized in purification, cleansing evil, healing others, breaking curses and banishing demons and evil spirits, Chiyome is capable of incredible acts of witchcraft with anti-evil attributes. Sealing charms, barriers, and even calling upon divine blessings to aid her and her allies. all of this is possible for her. Also, any sort of poison, no matter how deadly or fast, is rendered unable to harm her, and she can imbue this ability on another.Fuck you Hydra Poison, fuck you Manaka's grailaids. Chiyome should be good to yoink her back and healtank through even a hydra arrow as Alcides couldn't just explode her once she has Ilya. With C strength she could literally just pick up Leys with Ilya in tow.>>4742284>>4742285My bad, SPEEDREAD
>>4742286Also Chiyome can Bless Karna to protect him from Hydra poison, and he can keep Alcides locked down in a very kino Archery contest that destroys the city
>>4742286AND we would have been royally fucked up if we'd dived into SAlter without cursecondoms.
>>4742272>limit herselfShe's treating things like it's all a game. We know she can summon whatever she likes thanks to Tesla and Baz.Here's my theory.>We take Salter and DUDE>Manaka seething decides to get some revenge on us.>Summons Enkidu>Ishtar is summoned into Illya>Manaka uses her grail connection to Illya to contact Ishtar, offers to give her her power back if she becomes an ally and makes Alcides stab EMIYA, the Archer who could intercept their escape.>Ishtar, being a dweeb, accepts and gets her Divine powers back.
>>4742289oh yeah, i wonder what would have happened, would we have tried to rape her?
>>4742290Is it even Ishtar? I thought the thing in SF was just a Curse real Ishtar left on the Texture to fuck up Gil and Enkidu if they both exist.
Morgan should recognise Vortigern, so I'd imagine as we speak through the sticker Morgan will hear and chime in, right?Did Morgan summon him..?Why didn't she point it out already?Or is this one of those rare anime characters that actually wears his full face helmet. But Morgan should recognise his armour too?
>>4742290A plausible theory. I have no points against it.
>>4742292Do you think it would say no to getting full Ishtar power?
>>4742292Chiyome accidentally deletes Ishtar mid rescue lmao
Don't want to quote something wrong, but as far as I can find, Vortigern looks like this."Vortigern is a dark figure whose armor has become black, having become a hole in the world."
>>4742297N
>>4742293Did Morgan ever see DRAGONCHAD Vortigern?After losing his power he's just a senile old fuck.
>>4742291I'm glad we'll never find out.>>4742293If he was summoned, it was through his dragon connection, like Siegfried. I bet he wears his helmet. Don't know why Morgan didn't say anything.
>>4742299He's hr uncle, she's older than Artoria and is Uther's legitimate daughter. She must know what he looks like.
>>4742289Us telling Angra to shut the fuck up was very based.>>4742291The CGI dragon's defenseless anus should have been ours.
>>4742301Well shit, maybe he really is wearing his black stained armor and helmet?And Morgan doesn't know what that looks like?I thought the dragon powerup was very temporary so only Arturia or Gawain should probably recognise him.
JETS absolutely fucks Vortigern btw.Cursed Sword with anti dragon properties. The only trait bonus he doesn't trigger is the anti-good one as Vortigern would likely be Lawful Evil.If he respawns we have a job for him, bait him over to Vortigern if he can't be de-niggered
>>4742305I'm gonna hope so, I don't want to have to turn Morgan into a lawn statue too.
>>4742307UNRIVALLEDchadsOur time is now.
>>4742310ENTER
>>4742307I doubt Manaka will send him to zerg rush us. JETS will remain useless, it seems.And if that's Vortigern and Morgan can be trusted heh, she should be able to help tremendously in dealing with him.
>>4742309Morgan will fall into line now herNiece?Is the Fairy Queen.
>>4742305I am pretty sure Vortigern can just turn into a dragon whenever. Even the Picts were aliens. Mordred says that "Describing it in terms of your era, they were like something that would be in a sci-fi movie, you know?" and Garden places them on the same terms as dragons and succubus. King of Picts is likened to "cursed cat of Britain" who is prob Cath Palug.Vortigern turning into a dragon is just not THAT big a deal in that era I guess.
>>4742312You know, if we hadn't curbstomped them, Manaka's alters probably would have helped us against Orochi and JETS would have had his chance to shine. She doesn't want him to win either.
>>4742315Hadrian did nothing wrong
>>4742313Mordred is smart enough to tell EMIYA to switch ti non-holy affinity anti-dragon swords, right? Instinct A gives temporary higher than room temp iq?
We're having Sakura vore Angry Umu, right?Gotta prevent Manaka from being able to finish her age 13 and up apocalypse jigsaw puzzle.
>>4742321There's nothing else worth having her around for.EMIYA should be raining down Gram copies against Vortigern, it's probably his best bet as it's somehow tracible despite its equals or inferiors somehow not being so.
>>4742319Instict probably wouldn't tell her that's an anti-holy dragonfag, but she should make the right call now that she knows.>>4742321Angry Umu is Nero? Then yes, if we can help it.
>>4742325that's what I'm hoping, I don't want to have to re-edit the autismwall again for something minor. nothing but despair happens offscreen anyway, I don't expect any enemies to die without our direct commands as without Shinji's observation they don't have full protagonist authority.this must be how Zelretch feels
>>4742324>There's nothing else worth having her around for.I hope you're talking about Nero. Them's fighing words otherwise, sir.
>>4742325It didn't tell Saber in life, did it?
>>4742326 Zelretch also Isekai'd Ayaka into SF iirc. Another similarity between us.
>>4742329Yes, Nero
>>4742330She just hopechadded through his despair aura and Rhongobongo'd him in the heart
>>4742326They're doing fine so far. Nothing would have gone wrong if we hadn't nabbed Manaka's favorite toy. We could have gone after the Dragon or Merlin's group instead.
>>4742334Nothing wrong per say, just no real victories to speak of, only offscreen despair
>>4742334Leaving Deermud "Guerilla Warfare" Ua Duibhne in the forest alone. lmao.
How familiar is everyone with Nero's new wife? After the first one was falcon punched in her pregnant gut for interrupting Nero's sportsball games with nagging or something?
>>4742337It has been just a few minutes. They didn't have the advantage of perfect information and invisible dragon ambush, and they're storming a prepared position. Give them a break.>>4742338They were just about to engage Merlin's group. People were more worried that the alters would get killed before we could catch them. Getting Chiyome was the only unambiguously positive thing of this detour.>>4742339Nero was such a madlad.
Can someone post a summary of the YHVH Walkthrough btw
>>4742339Yeah Nero is coolWorld first populist, elites hate him
>>4742340>Getting Chiyome was the only unambiguously positive thing of this detour.Saber Fairy.
>>4742340I'm disappoint Wada went with dindu nuffin instead of based hedonist for the people empress. female Nero I don't even mind, I like the design more than I would more historically accurate fat troon discord mod with a laurel wreath on
>>4742341>"However, I can at least answer that a path of true happiness for all those that you hold dear does exist, but you must act quickly. You must not allow yourself to be distracted by the actions of your allies who have been twisted to serve Manaka with exception to Medusa, who is still clinging on to the last remnants of her previous self, upon saving her. You must go on to defeat the forces of Yamata-no-Orochi, as well as those who oppose him. Then, before your final confrontation with Manaka Sajyou, you must discover a way to reverse the effects of the curses of the mud of the Holy Grail upon Heroic Spirits, from there, you'll know what to do. That's what I will reveal to you."Gotchu senpai>>4742343Probably caused Manaka to freak, there was a downside.
Already over 100 posts. How can /qst/ even compete?
Between Medusa, Chiyome and Shuten, I feel like we deserve a Snakecharmer skill.
>>4742345If Manaka was the one who took Illya, does she also count as someone we should not be distracted by? He did not say "Altered", he said "twisted to serve", technically, which encompasses more possibilities.
>>4742344>dindu nuffin Thats true historical partNever trust patricians to be honest about their betters
>>4742186Excellent work, drawfag-san.
>>4742346The CHADS Of /qst/.
>>4742186Wow. you actually listened to my request?You have my gratitude drawfag man.So are we contracting with Fairy Saber? How long does it take to do?
>>4742347bring me, Vrita
>>4742348I don't think she counts and defeating Orochi without Alcides will be much tougher.>>4742353She can maybe sustain herself, being a Fairy Queen and all, but I'd say Sakura otherwise. Spamming her fairy Excaliblasts will be costly
>>4742353We probably want to contract her to Sakura. We need all our magical energy to use on Truth shit, but Sakura is sitting on assloads of magical energy and doing nothing with it.
>>4742356Tiamat gets to adopt a child of 3 of her higher favour affinities
I wish we could siphon magical energy from Sakura's Tiamat cores.
>>4742358breast milk is a bodily fluid, therefore it contains mana
>>4742347Seriously does QM have a snakegirl fetish?Who are we missing?Ibuki and Vrita?
>>4742359Not even a meme if magi can sell magical energy charged semen, blood and hair to the Association.
>>4742360The update where Shuten turned Divine was just before Ibuki was released, I recon if it happened after the fact it would have been her rather than Dynamax Shuten.>>4742360I'm surprised he started posting Suzuka when gyaru was used to bait the drawfag. He could have continued the trend of snekpussy
>>4742360Can we turn the defeated Orochi into Ibuki?
>>4742362Suzuka is based.
>>4742358We already know Sakura is dt mana transfer, we can siphon at any time.
>>4742363given enough autism planning, yes>>4742364hai hai!
>>4742359How does she react if we just ask to drink her breast milk right now?Just wondering, haha.
>>4742368just theoretically of course, we can't ask Medea as she also uses our mana haha
>>4742370Food for thought: Medea thought the energy from a Holy Grail would be enough for her to incarnate. Sakura has access to seven times as much. haha
If we are running out of mana, then what if we use truth to give us a bigger/infinite storage space?
Do we have a breast size rankings of all the girls yet?
Since the topic is mana, how do you interpret the line that " That heart is made of the concept of dragons. The amount of magic is comparable to the earth’s heat. " How much magical energy is that? Re:Artoria's dragon core, and probably also Tiamat's cores.
>>4742375A shitload. There's a reason bathing in dragon blood was among the first plans commonly agreed on for Isekai Shinji, along with the all-fiction reality marble.
>>4742372Well, she is a Mother Goddess, so it's not strange that life should spring forth from her bountiful chest. haha
If WhatIs really did want to bring in Suzuka as the gyaru it would also be a good time for the final of the three great monsters to appear
>>4742380 RIP Cucked Sutoku, not Great Monster.
>>4742381Why did they cuck him out of the big 3 in typemoon? Did they use Douman for that character archetype or something and call it a day?
>>4742380NTR time?
>>4742383That is Suzuka's thing yes
>>4742382Actually, Otakemaru, Tamamo, Shuten is the original, older trio IRL too. Sutoku replacing Otake is a relatively newer version of the trio, so its not like its not faithful, its just RIP Sutoku.
>>4742385ENTER JIMMU when?
It's lancelot, let's kill him again.
>>4742387Lancelot ga Shinda!
>>4742384True JK enjo kosai
>>4742382Also, I don't think we've ever seen a Tengu in nasu, while Oni are everywhere so its probably easier. Tengu are something weird tho, with Pepe talking about falling to Tengu-do if he fucks up Shugendo.
>>4742391Didn't we recently get a tengu waifu?
>>4742391Ushiwakamaru?
>>4742391Sushi's teacher exists>>4742390slept with Oketamaru for 3 years to "weaken his skin" and her husband knew lmao. what a cuck
>>4742391Tengu-do is basically if you seek the further attainments of Shugendo for supernatural power instead of actually seeking Enlightenment, you can become a Tengu and fall outside reincarnation, never achieving Nirvana forever, apparently.
So we giving Saber Fairy to Sakura? Seems alright.I'd say Shirou, but I don't think he couldn't handle the drain of 2 Artorias.
>>4742394I am drawing a blank on who that is. fuck>>4742393As far as I know she was just trained by Tengu, and wants to cosplay Tengu without actually being one.
>They taught combat to the young Ushiwakamaru, and enabled her to learn the innermost secrets of war strategy: the Six Secret Teachings and the Three Strategies of Huang Shigong... entirely against their will. >Ushiwakamaru just seduced their daughter one day to sneak a look at the secrets, causing the fearsome mentor to try to kill her in their rage.Another rapist dog, Cu would be proud that not having a benis didn't stop Sushi trying to knot women
>>4742397https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Kiichi_Hougen
>>4742394>Assassin with Territory Creation B+ and Magic Resistance EXWat.
>>4742396imagine having to feed all these gluttonous beasts in one household. >>4742400and EX Mana and a plethora of high end magic
>>4742394You think showing her Big Makiri Wallet on the first meeting will work?
>>4742398Based Lesbian.
We're waiting to find out if anything is wrong with Sakura before telling her to contract Saber Fairy, or just assuming?
>>4742404Sushi becomes more sexual every day. >>4742403She'll expect some pretty expensive compensation if we tip the hand right away. I'd love to see her face when she tries using her Mystic Eyes on Shinji and he just smacks her>>4742406Yes
>>4742173>Have your allies rendezvous with you instead while you work on restoring Iskandar.What's Orochi doing right now?
Suzuka can freely manipulate and levitate her own possessions right?What happens if we summon her and gift her an entire city?
>>4742408ushi a cutie
>>4742409>*angry snek noises*I bet.
>>4742410Our company's new Headquarters. Floating city by means of Oni fox, powered by our dragon daughter.
>>4742412We haven't disrupted his plans. His servants are holding the line. He has to be miffed we stole his assassin, but he's not seething yet.
>>4742413Just get Semiramis
>>4742173Support. >>4742246
>>4742415We cucked his bloodline curse and stole his Assassin AGAIN.
>>4742391>Tengus are a species of Elementals affiliated with parts of nature, such as mountains, skies, wind, or fire. They're very different from Divine Spirits, but if anything, they're closer to Divine Spirit than to humans. Although they normally don't interact with humans, that's not a hard rule, as shown by the examples of Ushiwakamaru and the Kyouhachiryuu disciples. >They have a clear precedent of coming in contact with humans and granting them something. They granted knowledge, techniques, Mystery, and secret arts... but that's not the only thing they can grant.>If you do something that offends them, you'll be literally sent to hell.>For a Tengu as grand as the Sōjōbō of Mt. Kurama can effortlessly open the gates of hell.
>>4742419I see, so Elementals. Japanese faeries basically.
You guys realize this is most likely just Lancelot and not Votigem. Why not just ask if Morgan recognizes him. I don't think we have enough info to guess. Don't just throw out guesses without enough info. Manaka so far hasn't shown the ability to summon anything new.
>>4742422How does Lancelot reduce damage from Mordred's np?
>>4742422Yeah. Lancelot has his weird distortion aura. Even Arturia didn't recognize him until the end of the 4th grail War.
>>4742419I wonder if we could use Truth to just portal out of hell.Tengu seethe.
>>4742422Its Rider Vorti
>>4742422Why would it be related to Manaka and not Orochi?
>>4742423If it was Vortigem then Mordred and Morgan would likely know. The reason why people can't recognize Lancelot is For Someone's Glory his armour which blocks recognition. Vortigem wouldn't have anything like that.
>>4742422>You guys realize this is most likely just Lancelot and not VotigemWhy? Vortigern fits the data infinitely better. And we already have a real Lancelot.>Why not just ask if Morgan recognizes himShe would have said something, she's there and she's trying to earn Mordred's favor>Don't just throw out guesses without enough infoWe've guessed servants from less. It's what we always do.>Manaka so far hasn't shown the ability to summon anything new.Tesla, whoever she put into Bazett's head. Manaka could have taken control of Illya through her grail connection without summoning Ishtar, it changes little in the end.
>>4742422>literally made a Tesla pseudo and did something fucky to Baz.She can summon Servants.Also Vorti is probably Orochi's
>>4742429Mordred is 8? years old at the time of her death. She likely never met Vortigern.Lancelot has no way to weaken a Holy Sword, Vortigern feeds on them
>>4742429Vorti is a living black hole who only Arturia and Gawain would recognize in this form.
>>4742432Morgan was there and she doesn't recognize him? Plus he may grow based on holy swords but did Mordred say he got more powerful or just resisted it? He's supposed to get a darker Aura as he powers up.
>>4742437That was alive full dragon Vortigern. Wouldnt be surprised if Servant Vorti is nerfed.
>>4742434I wonder if Faetoria has enough residual memories to confirm Vortigern's identity. It was a pretty significant moment in Artoria's life.>>4742437If you read up I actually asked this, but Vortigern specifically stained himself with niggeritis after consuming the blood of Albion and became an inhuman monster. Would you recognise LAlter as the same person if you were only given an image of vanilla Saber Artoria as something to go off? I am always suspicious of Morgan though.Again, how does Lancelot reduce Holy Sword effectiveness?
>>4742437Caliburn Camlann is a sword of paradoxes in addition to a Holy Sword right?It's possible that the paradox attribute fucked him up a bit.
Orochi is less successful Devil Forgemaster of you think about it
Does Faetoria still have a wish to rule?She won't go full Morgan right?
>>4742451We'll have to ask. Morgan was cucked out of her rightful throne remember, which caused her to seethe quite a bit
>Due to the fact that beings from the Age of Gods could not manifest in the modern world, she possessed the Einzbern homunculus Fillia, using her as a "sacrificial shrine maiden" and overwriting her.>overwriting herIllya will be fine after Chiyome purges curse-Ishtar, right bros?Right?
>>4742454There's a reason my first post in this thread is what it was. With Chiyome's help, probably
>>4742455Dunno, usually "overwrite" means "erase previous data". Sounds even worse than the typical pseudo. I'm dreading the chance we'll be left with a blank Illya after the purge.
>>4742451Well she's a week old, and she was having an identity crisis, so I suppose we could try to help guide her towards a certain path or goal.She the Fairy Queen now right? Are there any fairies left?
>>4742454No, you would need to access the Root to get records of Illya and put them back in their place. WhatIsAQM already posted art of Fillia btw
>>4742458That'd be worse than a dead end. I want one ending in which Ilya lives dammit.
>>4742455At least Gil, EMIYA and Shirou can finally all agree on something. FUCK ISHTAR.>>4742453I think she'll be fine, Mordred is the older sister anyway.
>>4742459Most are in Avalon.But uhArcueid counts.Morgan is also a fairy.
>>4742461same
>>4742461>That'd be worse than a dead endExactly. We've escaped a lot of them already. I would hate it but I wouldn't be surprised if carelessness finally got us.
>>4742459Take over the Reverse, ez. Then we can hash out trade deals between Camelot 2.0 ver. Mordred and Reverse 2.0 ver. S.Fairy.
>>4742461If it happens its Time Travel time. Quantum Time Locks are roughly per 100 years, and even then enough energy can change them. Time to steal Atlas Spiritron tech and enslave Goetia for resources.
>The Ainsworth family can brainwash others to become like dolls. Illyasviel von Einzbern is able to resist it due to her mental strength, and she completely evades it by taking refuge in the empty area Chloe von Einzbern previously inhabited when they were two personalities in one body.Ilya might be mentally stronger than you think despite her being a Homunculus. I'd imagine it would be a timer based thing though.
So did mommy Tiamat protect Sakura? or maybe her Nulification?
>Need to take care of something and leave for a few hours>170 new posts.Ok then.
>>4742470I think nigger's vote was the most popular.
>>4742470As if you didn't expect that after YET ANOTHER clusterfuck you dropped on our laps.
>>4742470we need to headpat abby more
>>4742470
>>4742470*the other QMs will remember it*
>>4742186Very nice
>>4742477top kek
>3 of the over 2000 posts
And fuck, I just realised Sasaki has a sticker too. Merlin is listening in on our comms.
>>4742479Joffrey quest failed at reaching thread 2 after a few days because Trick QM had female problems. For once I'm glad WhatIs doesn't give time to no hoes unless they are 2D.
>>4742481We can always ask Tamamo to fudge his receiver and feed him a false command and test the plant by Merlin theory. He wouldn't even need to though with his Clairvoyance I imagine.
>>4742481I don't know if Merlin is genuinely trying to kill off Shinji's faction or if he is just testing us. I think Merlin still has a place in his heart for Shinji-chan and is trying to make us desperate enough to transform into her. That pervert.
>>4742484I am assuming he knows everything that happens but can't read thoughts. Merlin will know if we ask Tamamo that, but compromised comms means we'll have more difficulty setting up the garden gnome plan.
>>4742246So was this the latest version of the plan?
>>4742491Seems so>>4742246+1 properly
>>4742491Now my paranoia is saying its Rizo-Waal or Gransung. A DAA knight dude
>>4742491Yeah.Cute vampire. Hope Satsuki eats her.
>>4742493Mordred...should know how Rizo looks right? Hes also a Black Knight.
>>4742493Interesting.>>4742494Why must you be so mean to the dumb yandere vampire?
>>4742497Alt did well on the popularity poll, didnt she?
>>4742498She did, oddly enough.Guess that yandere charm shone through after all.
>>4742497Can you really be count yandere if you didnt show up to help your crush in the moment of need? Or at least stab some of his hussy orbiters amids it?
>>4742499I wouldn't have minded becoming a DA per se, its just the whole being enslaved thing is not cool.
>>4742499Is Alt going to come back for Shinji? Seems pretty sad that she ran away as soon as Sakura ate Nrvnqsr.
>>4742497I'd be fine with her joining us... until she got to Sacchin that is.Maybe if she apologizes.
>>4742497I want the yandere vampire to join the harem we don't have enough lolis in the harem.
>>4742503If you want power go outer god
>>4742502She does have duties she needs to attend to, so in the end she settled for just giving you an additional Servant and powerful catalyst in hopes that it would allow you to survive the war.You gave that opportunity to Mordred though.>>4742503God's gonna freak!>>4742504It depends on how interested she is after reading the after-report of the war.
>>4742507...
>>4742507True
>>4742510Bro, we can be an ambassador between Outer Gods and God. The time of reconciliation/cosmic politics has come.
>>4742510only come talk to me when you have less heads.
>>4742511>>4742512
>>4742510One more god rejected
>>4742514Trust me, bro. Totally.
Why does being a god have to come with the side effect of being a humongous asshole?Is it the detatchment from humanity?
>>4742517Inability to feel empathy, detachment from humanity, UNLIMITED POWER.But at the same time, there are some gods/titans who are total bros to humans.
>>4742517Be the change you want to see
>>4742518Basically its not a god thing. Humans who are suddenly retardedly powerful and on a different plane would probably also go mad with power and shuck off restraint, I feel like. Its just some humans wouldnt, just a lot.
>>4742520i would just relax and eat chocolate for a millennia, then think of how to help people.
Do we even know what Rizo-Waal can do? My paranoia about him being the black knight has been activated.
>>4742499I do not trust Altrouge's current position in the poll. She was nowhere near as high in the first count you did. Her numbers jumped after the poll was linked again in a next thread.
>>4742509>after-report of the warBold of you to assume we will make it to the end of the war with the way you shake things up
>>4742525He was Mordred's Master. How could she not recognize him?
>>4742526I voted for her in the first poll before Sacchin was added.
>>4742525Time magic. Only very few things can kill him
>>4742528We don't know he showed himself to her. Its technically possible Mordred has never seen him in armor.
>>4742529She had some votes, yes. She just wasn't that high.>>4742532They went together to fight Touko. I'd assume he wouldn't underestimate Shishou like that.
Damn, I need to start waking up earlier. Keeping up with you goons is near impossible.
>>4742535>He hasn't synchronised his sleeping schedule to this Questngmi
>>4742536>Imagine having a sleep scheduleLmao.
>>4742528Blindred, Knight of not being very Observant.
>>4742536>he sleeps more than 3 hourshaha
>>4742535Bro just have a sleeping cycle where you push one hour ahead each day.
>>4742538Her Insticts should be screaming.And that's an insult to our King's honor!
>>4742538Its totally Rizo-Waal isn't it.
>>4742548This would require neither Touko or Mordred recognizing him.
>>4742551And also, Altrouge sending him to help Orochi.
>>4742552Strout is a nice guy and a simp who hunt hussies who orbit his mistress love interests! On his own initiative!
>>4742551What was the Very Bad Thing that would have happened if we messed up in Salter's inner world?
At least I figured out why Aylesburi ritual is in Aylesbury. From Garden."That's why....yes. Should someone ever think of filling this planet with ether once again, they would set up their workshop on this island without a doubt. This is the last scar of the age of gods, and it could act as a pivot for flipping over the world."
>>4742556
>>4742559No demi servant?
>>4742558Looks like we'll need to pay that place a visit to bring the Age of Gods back.And make sure they don't fuck up this world like they fucked up Extra.
>>4742562We have to go there anyway. DAAs want to use it to resurrect Dark Six. Maybe making a Crimson Moon based Order?
>>4742566Yeah, that's the ritual that goes wrong in Extra and drains the world's mana. Plenty of reasons to pay them a visit.
Remember how Requiem's world should be a blown out hellscape from all the Servants going nuts? Apparently it is, and they use disguised drones and never go out of the city to maintain an illusion of normality, but the world is basically called a "wasteland" and "hell". The planet being a "shell".
>>4742571OK so why hasn't Gaia called down the Types to purge them all?
>>4742578Well, why would it? It only calls them when they start to live on her corpse. A destroyed or blown out Planet still counts. It's only like the top Texture being wrecked. The Reverse and the Inner Sea of the Star should be still extant and fine. The answer is "Textures, Son!"
>>4742578Sleepy
>>4742578She's fucking dead apparently.
>>4742584Yeah, but that means that she should send out her "Fucking kill everyone" SOS signal to the rest of the solar system.
Basically it said these quotes, for example. "Yes. There was. A big war. History's biggest war that swallowed every living creature on this planet. Every nation, person, Heroic Spirit that had been summoned weren't safe. It was that big of a war. That's why our planet was turned into this. Voyager, the beautiful globe that you knew... what remains is just a shell." "Yes, drone. Flying unmanned weapons. Machines that make a judgement about the battle conditions and attack the opponent. The last war was a battle between drones. At the height of the fighting, it's estimated there was more than ten thousand drones to one solider. Drones from tiny bugs to the size of a passenger plane, they flew above the battlefield semi-autonomously. There weren't just airborne drones. Excavation drones to infiltrate underground installations, underwater drones, and other unusual types were developed. There were even suicide bombing attack submarines that disguised themselves as dolphins or whales. During the war, any approaching fish silhouette must have been attacked out of fear." "This track is fine, Voyager. This railroad connected to Mosaic City is within the city's bounded field, so its well protected. However... outside Mosaic City is hell." "For the city to function, a minimal number of single function drones are allowed. For example, they measure the pollution levels of places humans can't reach or act as surveillance cameras with very limited operating space. They're practically like old world radio controlled machines that require an operator. If it's possible to substitute with magecraft, we use that instead. Machines that come into contact with people are registered with the relevant authorities and cleverly camouflaged to assuage public sentiment. "" Yes, none of our generation feels the disasters that are outside. We aren't conscious of it in our daily life. That's how peaceful Mosaic City... was. ""Today, countless drones are hidden, hibernating in the wastelands. They have semi-indefinite lifespan. If a plane were to fly over, a drone that detects it would wake up and shoot it down." It was some shit, apparently.
Hey boys.Where's Giselle?If she was with Illya she could probably give us a good idea on what's going on with her since she knows her way better than Satsuki does.
>>4742585Yes but no.
>>4742585She should send it about Manaka if we are talking pragmatic
>>4742585I have two guesses, or maybe more. Maybe she did send out the signal, they're just slow. Maybe some HS or technology makes them Land of Steel tier and they just kill them too. Maybe Gaia died so fast she didnt have opportunity to do it. Why didn't it kill everyone in Ainsworth timeline with TYPES yet?
>>4742588And this doesn't count as a timeline that needs to be pruned by Alaya either?It sounds like exactly the sort of dead-end timeline that needs to be pruned.God, it somehow made more sense when it was just Servant Pokemon.
Has the vote been called?
>>4742589All three maids were with her. I don't know if she has a sticker, but I doubt she'd be able to offer much more than Satsuki. Illya left only with Leysritt, apparently.Does Illya have a sticker, WhatIs?
>>4742594>Why didn't it kill everyone in Ainsworth timeline with TYPES yet?It only gets mad when humanity is going to outlive it. That wasn't a problem in the Ainsworth timeline, because everyone else was dying too.
>>4742589yeah, we kinda need to headpat her too, let snot forget to give attention to anyone.
>>4742597Apparently so. I guess since valence between utopia and dystopia exists and is not one or the other heading towards static existence like Extra, it is still fine.Since it just checks whether there is Hope (Oscillation) in the future of 100 years iirc, similarly to how Hope and Certainty were described as complete antithesis in KnK.
>>4742588So the big thing in a series about everyone getting servants isn't the fact that everyone has a servant, but is instead about a weapons crisis that saw the creation of billions of autonomous drones?So everyone getting servants didn't actually matter in the war because it was all robots?
>>4742599The only ones who got stickers from the home team were Shirou, Arcueid, Aoko and Satsuki. After all, you can use somebody elses sticker by touching it.
Also." "The war happened fourteen years ago... " So it hasn't been a lot of time for shit to go down. Maybe TYPES are coming and they slow, who knows, I certainly don't.
>>4742607Thank fuck, at least our comms aren't THAT compromised.
It's also possible that Alaya hasn't pruned it because the Human Order itself is fucked/different? Since every human heart is basically a Grail and they are supposed to be ageless or something, they may not even count as Humans, like A-Rays and Ether Liners. I wouldn't be surprised.
>>4742599Giselle is a maid made to serve Illya, they have a connection way deeper than some random vampire girl. It isn't a far-off guess to think Giselle might be able to give a bit more insight into what exactly changed in the girl.I'm not saying she'll know exactly what happened, but she could help lead us in the right direction. Just have Satsuki or someone else ask Giselle if she noticed anything and say it's from us. Should only take a second or two and it's more than worth it.
>>4742611Types are so fast Ort-tan landed in South America a thousand years ago.Dumb spider.>>4742605I think you can try to justify it like that, but the actual answer as to why it exists is.>"I want to write Servant Pokemon with a big war in the background like in my Pokemon fan theories, OK Nasu?"
>>4742613Then if that's the case, Alaya would DEFINITELY prune it. Why would it allow a word without humans to exist?That's worse than stagnation.
>>4742614Yeah, but I really don't see how she could say anything more than "Suddenly she turned into a bitch I didn't recognise". We're already asking Karna, he's the best judge of character we have by far, and time is precious.>>4742615We'd better do something about Ort at some point too.
>>4742617>We'd better do something about Ort at some point too.unless someone fucks with him, we have a LOT of time to do something about him.we need to make him a loli so headpats
>>4742617If we're asking Karna then I suppose that's fair.Still, little details matter. What type of bitch she was asking us can tell us if she was taken over by some external being or if she is having the worst of her own nature brought to the forefront. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see though.
>>4742616How would Prune it if it doesn't exist? The top Texture is usually Human Order/Alaya but not necessarily so. The World would still work, even if by differen/new rules. I think this is exemplified in and of itself that "using magecraft" was just a thing to do if it can be done instead of science, and not a secret. An Order has to exist, but not necessarily as is.Otherwise I can also imagine someone with a Grail or Texture Tower like Rhongo pinned it forcefully. So many factors flying around its basically impossible to say.Essentially, its not as far fetched to me after Servant Universe is strictly canon. They even seem similar a bit.
>>4742621In and of itself, we can say that we know that Tsukihime timelines are ones where the "Human Order is weaker", so it can definitely happen. Heartless' plan to revive AoG via Iskander Deification was a danger because it could work. We also know that ORT stirs in timelines with weak Human Order like Tsukihime ones, and I'd say that's even more dangerous for humanity and they don't get Pruned.In Extra they just migrated all to the Moon Cell somehow, and left Earth???
>>4742621The rules don't matter and are subject to being changed at any time for the sake of Nasu or a guest author writing something they feel like writing. That's the takeaway.Also, in that Timeline, I guess Alaya just forgot to use Counter Guardians to put a stop to the drone nonsense.
my question is how illya managed to start acting weird and abusive without arc or aoko noticing something being up and stopping her from leaving? are our allies really this clueless?
>>4742624We know that Counter Guardian's aren't omnipotent, otherwise A) There'd be no need to Prune timelines dying due to humans being fucked by outside factors/war and B) Gilgamesh's plan did not take into account CGs and you can bet he knows how the Counter Force works.Otherwise, maybe. I know that even Narita was shocked about what Nasu let him get away with, and even encouraged some OPness like Enkidu having uberstats amongst others. So you're not wrong, it's just Nasu is inherently predisposed to it also.
>>4742624>I guess Alaya just forgot to use Counter Guardians to put a stop to the drone nonsense.is this GoT now
>>4742624Mind of Steel anti-world
>>4742626Satsuki said it was literally seconds ago. I assume they were surprised/not in position to stop her, and then they chose to stay and defend the mansion like we told them instead of running after her.
>>4742626Only Satsuki was with her at the time, and it's not exactly like it's that strange for either Aoko or Arc to see a magus act like an asshole like that. It's not like either of them know Illya very well at all.And it was only to the maids anyway.
>>4742632I hope you realise than when this is all over we'll want interludes of all the different PoVs in this battlefield. Including Waver.
Update when
>>4742632I swear to god if Shirou and Saber were fucking while Illya went crazy I'll flip my whole shit.
>>4742632I Hunger for the text wall
>>4742635I wonder if Raikou will ever be summoned in this quest. A part of me feels like she would be interesting to write (as a character).
>>4742641She could be part of Merlin's group, though Sasaki is his Saber. Probably.
>>4742641There's tons of servants I bet people would want to show. Unfortunately my fav is nothing special in power levels, so she likely never will.
>>4742646Suzuka when
>>4742641We'd have to try to kill her for Shuten but then again we didn't kill Jason and he didn't have boobs.I think I get why Merlin doesn't like us but can't kill us. If we go through with our plans then AOG comes back or Camelot. If either one happens it would be a step backwards for humanity. Instead of Science assimilating mystery it'll be in direct competition which slows down advancement. Unless we can promise humanity will keep moving forward even with the return of the gods and monsters then there are issues. Maybe Alaya likes Shinji so much she doesn't wish to kill him but wishes to stop him.I suggest we get Da Vinchi and have her team up with BB to create magictech as a way to advance humanity a null the issue of stagnation.
>>4742632I hope illya didn't take bearitsugu with him.
>>4742649I feel like Blatavsky and Atlas can do it better. Da Vinci is more for one off artisan works imo.
>>4742649Also, we kinda showed Alaya that even though we were a "completely mundane" higher-order human, here we're basically reality warping with Truth, so we may have set a new path to the future already, by showing her another path than Science.
>>4742649I think Merlin went rogue when his boss changed her mind regarding the age of man. I do agree that's why he's opposing us, and why we have to turn him into Morgan's garden gnome. Da Vinci wouldn't be bad to have, but we're sending BB back where she came from the first opportunity we get.
>>4742652We don't control Atlas, where are they even located?I guess we could summon Blatavsky too but Da Vinchi helped create the facilities in F/GO, isn't that magic tech. Plus she has pioneer of the stars to help make it possible.
>>4742655Atlas is in Egypt.
>>4742654>we're sending BB back where she came from the first opportunity we get.That's a huge assumption. You want to deprive Sakura of her only servant?
>>4742654BB knows spirtron hacking and is an AI from the far future. She could speed up tech development by decades. Plus she's trying not to be shit now. Compared to someone like Shuten she's less shit/high maintenance.
>>4742660Also this is true. BB can stay if she doesn't mind.
>>4742654Also, we just proved that Dragon, Fairy and Human attributes can mix in a perfect hybrid that doesn't reject any part somehow using Fairy Saber.She's basically our thesis for Alaya about an AoG-AoM hybrid future instead of one or the other.
>>4742665Not really, a fairy queen us actually worse because that increases mystery instead of science. If we made an A-liner that would be science over magic.Speaking of which does anyone know how we can get an A-liner? I'm hoping our reality marble allows permanent change. Maybe Shinji could evolve himself?
>>4742659Only servant so far.>>4742660I don't particularly care about accelerating tech. Those shits at Atlas will need to do something themselves if they want.But above all, she doesn't want to stay here. She's in love with her Hakuno. That's the core of her being, in fact, the reason she was created. Do you intend to force her, like Nyarly did?>>4742665Yeah, exactly. We made a Dragon Daughter and a new dragon/human/fairy Queen of the Fairies, all in a single day, while we're rushing to save the war. Imagine what we can do with prep-time and calm.
>>4742669If she can change then priorities also change. Unless she's a static AI, I'll admit never went super indepth with the character.
>>4742669I wouldn't mind forcing her, but making your primary tech developer an AI that hates you personally for ruining her happiness sounds like a retarded form of suicide, so she can go if she wants. If not tho, well.
>>4742671She can change and evolve, like any regular intelligent being, but her deciding to stay wouldd be about as likely as Sakura deciding not to return to us when placed in a similar situation. BB is a copy of a copy of Sakura, after all.
I do want to explore some Adjacent and Parallel Worlds with Rin post War anyway, so maybe we can search for BB's Worldline if Nyarly dumps her on us perma.
>>4742669Technically this BB already went through the really kind of dumb, 'oh I can't be near Hakuno because my existence will hurt them' or something. Basically, she needed to be for (you)
>>4742649I like the conflict that would come from a Perseus or a Raikou being summoned, cause they're both firmly on the side of good, they don't have MASSIVE faults like Jason, they’re genuinely good people that did good things
>>4742679>Basically, she needed to be for (you)Yeah, this BB went through the events of the game already. I don't understand what you mean by this though, or how this'd make her more willing to stay in a world where she never gets to see her Hakuno again.
>>4742679Okay, we're fine. Tech AI is a go it seems?
As someone that knows nothing about B.B and her clones, is it possible to bring Hakuno here?That'd get her loyalty, right?
>>4742682Because this BB decided she didn't want to see Hakuno ever again because she is dumb and keeps hurting them. So she decided to torment the FGO protagonist instead.
>>4742685Wait, what the fuck?Well, guess she'll be staying then. Yeah, let's give the marginally sane and most definitely evil AI control of the Internet. What could possibly go wrong?
I wonder when our allies like Rin and Touko are going to find out we're planning on keeping all the Servants Incarnated, including the Oni, revolutionizing the World along with Alaya and that we've essentially given up on secrecy desu.I am not sure anyone has actually noticed or internalized that.
>>4742691We actually let Ibaraki make an Oni village, and you can be sure Ibaraki would listen to anything Shuten says. This is comparatively not that bad if we can kinda keep a check on her, or Sakura can I guess.If the Internet exists to be troubled or controlled by BB, that's already going to be a victory.
>>4742693We've told them we plan to incarnate everyone. Rin definitely hasn't realized what exactly this means, though Touko probably has.
>>4742693Unlike in F/SN, there's no time to go into long flowery inner monologues about the implications of everything going on.Coming to grips with the results of this war is going to be an adventure in it of itself.
>>4742697Shuten and Ibaraki can't take control of any nuclear arsenals by hacking. BB has the potential to go Skynet on our ass if she gets bored. An Oni village isn't in the same ballpark of danger as a BB with internet access.Though BB taking over for all of the chan jannies in our timeline would be hilarious.>>4742699Tomorrow. Tomorrow will be a nice, quiet day, where nothing catastrophic happens, and we can all relax after this battle and before storming the temple. Nothing will go wrong tomorrow.Or else.
>>4742691Not evil, she helps on the oil rig to save humanity. She just likes to taunt as her way of helping apparently. Just watched a BB explained video. This is summer BB which registered herself into the throne of heroes to protect humanity.CCC BB already became human along with Hakuto. This is just a copy from Seraph that was sent to stop Kiara then decided to stay essentially.
That was rather proactive discussion I missed.
>>4742702After this war, we need to collapse into a chair and eat some real food for awhile.
>>4742684Hakuno is probably here but they won't be the same person
Does Rin have her broken ass Jewel Mystic Code from Unlimited Codes?
>>4742705Link of the video? I guess I'm missing important info, having never bothered with gachashit. I tried reading the wiki, but my eyes glaze over all F:GO segments on their own.
Euryale is getting a new dress
>>>Lancer>>Rolled 98, 38, 62>Random above average Lancer.>>>Archer>Rolled 26, 13, 70>Orochi catalyst above average-strong Archer.>>>Rider>>Rolled 79, 78, 23>Random strong Rider.>>>Assassin>>Rolled 26, 70, 7>Orochi catalyst above average-strong Assassin.From our rolls for Wormpa and we met Chiyome already so she is a good indicator that exactly Orochi catalyst implies.So black armor guy being Vortigern is not that clear.
>>4742716My only other guess is Rizo-Waal helping Orochi for some reason.
>>4742719He should be gone though.
>>4742714On my phone, not sure how to copy and paste off the youtube app. Just type in BB fate explained in the search bar.
>>4742719>He owes his immortality to a time curse and he wields a demonic sword named True Demon Neardark. He is thought to be "invincible" due to his "curse of time".Mordred directly told us she believe her paradox sword will cut him like butter. So I doubt it is him on that alone.
>>4742716Him recognising Mordred narrows it down to either him or a Knight of the Round Table. Facetanking Caliburn Camlann narrows it down to either Vortigern, or the defense specialists of the round table, Agravain or Galahad. We mostly assumed Mordred would be able to recognize her fellow knights. Orochi connection counted too, but it wasn't the primary argument.>>4742719Mordred and Touko have seen him, and Altrouge has absolutely no reason to send him to help Orochi.
>>4742722Thanks my dude. I'd tried just "BB explained" and couldn't find anything relevant.
>>4742715Oh that's cute
>>4742724He is either Archer or Orochi summoned Servant who should be his best match out of random pull.We will know soon enough.
Orochi ate QM?
>>4742716I may have to envoke my power as QM to change a... single one of these results.
>>4742715Getting ready for her idol career>>4742733...
>>4742733Orochi is hacking higher dimensions. It is over.
>>4742733>I may have to envoke my power as QM to change a... single one of these results.fear
>>4742733So the Rider is Orochi catalyst after all, huh?
>>4742732Complex write-in take longer. >>4742733Orochi really cheats?No dignity.
"No time to waste with trying to purify Iskandar." You state calmly. "Rin, see if you can't use your control over the Second to toss him inside an area in which time flows slowly, would you? We're on a bit of a time limit here. I think that something has possessed Illya. But I'm not quite sure what yet" "Alright, let me see what I can do with this thing..." Rin is quick to walk over to Iskandar, knowing just how dire the current situation is she doesn't even think about talking back to you. Alcides was basically the main piece in your plan to defeat Orochi. His Noble Phantasm to bind him and drag him to hell would've been the perfect solution to his effective immortality. But now that Alcides and Jason have been taken by a new unknown enemy, that part of your plan has completely fallen apart. How on Earth are you supposed to defeat Orochi without Alcides? You suppose you still have Lugh and Alítheia to aid you, but even with those two on your side, defeating a being that has reached the level of a Beast is going to be a nightmare. Orochi has proven himself multiple times to be capable of basically regenerating from whatever physical damage gets thrown at him, and you can't underestimate his magical knowledge either. When it comes to Servants and summoning, it's highly likely that his only equal in all of time in the regard of summoning would be somebody like Solomon or Goetia at this point. Honestly, the absolute lunatic managed to summon a full Divine Spirit into his own body!You begin to pace back and forth as you watch Rin sink the Kaleidosword into the ground and start to activate the aspects of the Second True Magic that she can control, and you suddenly have an idea as to just how you can get to the bottom of just what has occurred. 'Karna, can you track Illya from your current location? I can't imagine that she would've gotten very far, and I want to see just what sort of change has come over Illya, with your Discernment of the Poor, you should be able to determine just what has happened, right?' You have a lot of allies, so you may as well make good use of them. You doubt that Karna is going to have any complaints about following along with your request, you are the leader of this faction, after all. You'd call yourself the de-facto leader, but at this point it feels like you're something beyond that. There's frighteningly little opposition to any of the plans you put forward generally. Possibly because they always end up being as effective as they are.
'Alright, I'm going to have to take eyes off the forest while I do so though, the upper floors of the Einzbern Castle have all but been obliterated, though I'm not sure if there are any sub-levels.' Karna reveals the general success of his attack, and you're glad that at least something seems to have gone right for you. Even if the probable reality of Orochi hiding deeper underground for his schemes is an annoying one.'Very well, Karna, please, if you notice that she has a divine attribute when you catch sight of her, report it to me immediately. You really really hope that this doesn't mean what you think it means, things are going to quickly go very very bad if it does. 'Now, Satsuki, seeing as I have you... on the line, so to speak, could you go over to the basement to give a quick readout of the map that is in there to us all for me please?''A-alright, Shinji-kun! You wait for a moment for Satsuki to get down to the basement, observing Rin using the Second Magic to open up a space underneath Iskandar, a portal that the man falls through, into what could only be called a gap in reality. Interesting, that her mastery of the Second is to such a degree that she could manage even something like this with it. Then again, a lot of the heavy lifting is being done by the Kaleidosword, if the Mage's Association knew that Rin had something like the Kaleidosword available to her, they would probably stop at nothing to retrieve it. That blade is easily something on the level of one of the Seven Superweapons of Atlas! 'OK, so I'm looking at the map, there's two really bright spots, one is showing up at ruin, and the other... in the middle of a destroyed part of the forest?' That would be Orochi and your group here, respectively. 'There's another group standing to the north of the Castle, though they don't seem to be moving... and there's two more groups that are quickly heading towards each other. three lights... against six?' Hmmph. Looks like Orochi is confronting the other group right now, it would be a good opportunity to perform a sneak attack on them, but you aren't certain of the identies of the majority of Servants. 'There are some other lights too, that seem to be patrolling around the forest.'What about outside the forest, Satsuki?' You remind the girl that there is more to look at then just the forest, and she hesitates for a moment as she probaly starts to look at the city-scape part of the map.'A few dots are in the city still, and there are some that are moving really quickly!' Fantastic, something's going on in the city as well. This is just... great. No, this is really excellent. Just what you needed. At least one of those dots can be assumed to be Alcides carrying Jason though.
'OK, Satsuki, that's about all I wanted to know. Thanks for being so helpful!' You thank the earnest girl through the mental link, before you bring up the next part of your plan. 'Mordred, I'm going to need you to keep pressing on, I think I know who you might be up against, as well, and I'm a little surprised that Morgan didn't recognize him.' You'd think she would've realized, what with him being her uncle and all.'Oh?' You can hear Morgan make a noise through the mental link, as if slightly confused.'Right. This guy we're up against, if he had black armor, was resistant to her sword and recognized Mordred, he'd have to be Vortigern, didn't you see his face?' Vortigern is an incredibly powerful enemy, capable of almost defeating both Gawain under the sun and the living Arturia at the same time!'Hmmph, you might be right about that. It certainly could have been him... He didn't show his face, but I didn't want to say anything until I was absolutely certain about his identity. Unfortunately, he didn't transform into a Dragon in the battle, so I incapable of acquiring concrete proof as to that.' Morgan sounds a little bit apologetic about speaking up further, but you suppose you can't blame her for not wanting to give everyone the wrong idea about the identity of the man, after all, she might've met him in life, but if you recall correctly, he underwent a transformation into a dragon through consuming dragon blood, so it's not like he'd have appeared the same after doing such a thing.You suppose that her excuse will have to do for now, you don't think the decision not to speak up was made out of malicious intent, and it really does seem more like she simply didn't want to mislead anybody during the fight 'Alright, OK, that's not the problem here. The problem here is that Vortigern is immune to Holy Swords, or at least heavily resistant, so do not attempt to strike him with them!' You take a moment to breath, before you turn to Sakura. "You don't feel... strange at all, do you, Sakura? Nothing is off with you right now, is there?" You want to make sure that Sakura isn't being affected by whatever has come over Illya, just in case it's Manaka messing with the link she has to the Lesser Grails right now."Um...? Not really? Unless you're talking about how I'm personally doing, in which case, I'm a little hungry." That wasn't at all what you were talking about, but whatever, it's at least some good news. You were considering maybe using your magic on her to determine whether or not she was truly OK, but it doesn't seem like that will be necessary. If her abilities have managed to halt Tiamat from taking control of her mind, then nothing can do so... You think.
With all the new developments in mind, and with all the new information you've managed to piece together, you're going to need to decide just what you're going to do now.>Make your way to the ruins of the Einzbern Castle, rendezvous with the others on the way if you can.>Ask Saber Fairy if she needs to contract with somebody. She's too powerful not to be at full strength (Who?)>Go intercept the battle between the two groups.>Send somebody after Illya, you need to find her to get Alcides to help.>Try to get in touch with Gil by using the bracelet.>Write-in...
>>4742748H-hungry f-for what
Alright, we need to give Faetoria to Sakura and intercept Ilya and find out what's wrong with her.Other than, what's our gameplan?
>>4742752Who can say?
>>4742752Seaweed cock, she would swallow but she'd prefer we get her pregnant first.
>>4742752>>4742755Did we give her a taste for vore?
So we didn't fondle our sisterwife after all? Disappointing. And I was hoping Karna would have found her pretty much immediately. This complicates the plan.If Sakura's alright, then either it's really Ishtar, or Manaka was unable to overcome Nullification and Tiamat and assume direct control. This Ishtar is a curse, so Chiyome should be able to purify her. I hope we can find her fast enough, and that Ishtar didn't completely erase her previous personality.Saber Fairy to Sakura, obviously.Karna should be ordered to destroy every single boat he can see the moment he locates Illya for us.Now, question is, do we go after Illya ourselves? Or send just Chiyome? We have no idea where she might be, and a dragon will reach her faster than a ninja. We will certainly be helpful on the forest though.>>4742755cursed image
>>4742755Based image.
>>4742764I would want to go after Ishtar as Shinji, I want to see what her motives are in person. Gilgamesh has Ayaka now, so how does she feel about him having a new queen?
>>4742768Ishtar gets erased at the end of the convo anyway. Her motives don't matter. If I were to hazard a guess, Manaka summoned Enkidu and then reached through the connection with the Lesser Grail to make Ishtar an offer.If talking to Ishtar is the only reason to go, our time is better spent elsewhere. I am weighing the risk to Illya versus the benefit of us being here.
Speaking of schizo ideas since we are at Ishtar right now.I don`t remember anyone bringing up an idea about five sets of Servants being involved.Red team being first set. Mostly canon.Black team being second set.Merlin`s team (Purple) being third set. Fully manifested with a help of Flat.Team Orochi being fourth set hacked into the war as well.And Nyarly`s team (Shifting) being fifth set. With Betty as "Caster" of that group.
>>4742764I think this is QM saying not to make things extremely complicated as is already and grope Sakura in front of her sister and daughter
I guess we could go to Orochi, but do we want to expose Medea and Tamamo to his anti-divine, or even Alcides' Anti-Divine?
>>4742773I don't mind all that much, we'll have our chance sooner or later.I also wonder who the other lights in the forest are. One of them is probably Sun, but Satsuki said there's more than one.>>4742772I don't think Nyarly has a full team, but it's certainly not impossible.
>>4742749>Ask Saber Fairy to contract Sakura>Ask Lugh to randezvous with Arc and for the two of them to go after Illya. If all goes well, have them scout out the other presences in the city itself.>Go intercept the battle between the two groups.
>>4742780Ideally, we won't fight Alcides at all. If we go to Orochi, Medea, Tamamo and Shuten get benched.
I think we should ambush Orochi fighting the other group, and...send Tamamo+Chiyome to against Illya? Since Chiyome dunks curses and can do purification magic and Tamamo can do normal cursecraft, if we bet on it being Curse Ishtar or mud based fuckery, they can do something about it. Medea may be Titan descendant and uses Divine Words but maybe she can just cast buffs at people and hang back?
>>4742784Yeah so we personally go to fetch Illya and her servants with all the divine servants we have that can't fight, seems perfect and it would cover our bases
>>4742764There'll be plenty of time to molest her later.
Alcides will butcher divine Servants if it ends up in a fight.
>>4742755Cute imageSo the two groups clashing is waver's group and Orochi's servants?
Illya is heading either to the Temple, or maybe to the docks so she can have her Argonauts. We are in an excellent position to intercept her if she goes to the temple, but she has a pretty good headstart if she's heading to the docks. Chiyome's our best bet for purifying her.Proposal:>Contract Saber Fairy to Sakura>Fly off with everyone. Leave the forest area asap and head towards the temple until Karna reports. It should be only slighly off the way towards the castle. >If she's heading our direction, we intercept Illya fast and have Chiyome do her thing.>If she's heading somewhere else, we have Medea teleport Chiyome to her so she can do her thing and we head to intercept the battle.We leave the forest before teleporting because of the futaman. He had scrying redirect to a field of cockflowers. I don't want to think where a teleport will lead. We go intercept the battle until we can identify the servants involved. Mordred did not see Nero, and we're fucked if the futaman kills him.Thoughts?
We should defeat Orochi as soon as possible we have been delaying dealing with him for too long. He is probably setting up some ritual that will harm us greatly if we let him complete it.
>>4742801I think we should either send Chiyome alone orblet Illya go. Alcides will butcher our current lineup without someone non Dovine powerhouee or Arc. Alc is still command sealed.
I think we send everyone to deal with Orochi, the divine servants (Medea, Tamamo and Shuten) go with us to deal with Illya and we come in with the cavalry
>>4742749Try to get in touch with Gil by using the bracelet
>>4742804We cannot possibly afford to let Illya go. Alcides is our winning condition, and I'm assuming the more time passes the more likely it becomes for Ishtar to erase her. I don't think Illya has rendesvoud with Alcides yet. >>4742805I don't think we should leave Sakura and our daughter alone. If we send the divines to deal with this, it will be without us.
>>4742805I agree with this I just think Shinji should go against Orochi and not go to Illya. We can leave that to the divine servants.
How are you feeling about current events, everyone?
>>4742755Blessed image
>>4742811Annoyed I feel like we keep getting sidetracked from dealing with the snake. Who himself is us getting sidetracked from dealing with Manaka.
>>4742811We're fucked and I'm glad.
>>4742811if you hurt illya i'm going to fucking kill you.
>>4742811FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFSo, we contract Fairy to Sakura, fly off to the edge of the forest, have the divines teleport to Illya (hopefuly Karna will have reported and she's not with Alcides yet), we head back to the forest with Alitheia, Sakura and Shiki?
>>4742814Good thing your buddy Merlin is here to help.
>>4742811The stronger we get the more shit gets thrown at us so we wont stomp the enemy.Damn level scaling.
>>4742810>>4742809Alcides hates and rages against Divine beings, it's gonna lower our chances of success if we just send them without us
>>4742818
>>4742818Merlin must be painfully vored for this "test".
>>4742816>>4742817Could always be worse.
>>4742749>Try to contact Alan by drawning Symbol of the Necronomicon and giving it a light touch of Truth>Ask him if he is willing to help you out and make entity that possessed Illya to fuck off and stop from interfering further with your allies
>>4742818i still wonder if merlin just wanted to kill orochi too.
>>4742818Alright everyone, we can't delay this anymore.>Cybele'd into a garden gnome>Vored by SakuraHow do we deal with out friend Merlin?
>>4742749Calling in 15.
>>4742825No.
>>4742830Cybele is perm, Tiamat vore isnt. Ez.
>>4742824ITS A GOOD THING GIL IS INDEBTED TO US RIGHT GUYS? Seriously I cannot stress how much I hated the Ayaka nay-sayers, that was the only time when the autists and were wrong in the worst way.
>>4742749>>4742801this>>4742811Tired of obstructions, intense desire to smite ishtar
>>4742749>>4742825+1Wanna hear how he is doing
>>4742749>>4742801+1 I guess. Unsure but its a good enough plan.
>>4742825
>>4742825>>4742749Support, come on Alan. You scratch our back we'll scratch yours.
>>4742839My ID changed from 9/td4XRV btw
>>4742749Support >>4742801
>>4742825Support. This way we can focus on Orochi.
>>4742841
>>4742801>>4742749Why the fuck are you dumbasses ignoring God's warning but still want to follow his walkthrough? Support so we don't have to talk to Alan
>>4742801+1We're calling Saber Blanco Obeithion, right?
Abby at our house?
>>4742825Support
>>4742749Making >>4742801 my official vote. Very unsure about it. Where's the Niggerman when you need him? I'm sure he could have come up with something better.In any case, we are to interfere in Merlin's battle ONLY if Nero's involved. Otherwise, we fuck off immediately, drop the divines and head to Orochi's
>>4742850yes
>>4742825i feel like this isnt a good idea
>>4742850Still sleeping. Same with Betty.
>>4742841Just a phone call relax
>>4742855its not, we'd be making a literal deal with the devil
>>4742855>I just want to kill orochiThat is why I am voting for it.
>>4742749>>4742801+1
>>4742848Sure, we can do a minivote for name if you want.>Hope>Obeithion>Obaith>Any other ideas go here
>>4742850Yeah along with betty, candle, BB, aoko, arc and satsuki
>>4742852He's probably asleep.
>>4742801Well the vote is called and this one won.
>>4742864Eiddwen
>>4742864>Obeithion
>>4742864>>Obeithionin keeping with Nasu's tradition, she should have an incomprehensible name
>>4742864>Blue-eyes white saber.
>>4742864Obeithion
>>4742864>ObeithionWhat a name
>>4742864>HopeI know people want a more complicated name, but I like the simplicity of this one.
>>4742864Bitch, I mean >Obeithion
>>4742864>Obeithion af Cymry-Gorch
>>4742879Niggerman said Obeithion is hope in Welsh in the previous thread.
>>4742884Eiddwen is also Hope according to my friend Google.
>>4742830>How do we deal with out friend Merlin?I'd like to share a beer and discuss woman problems with him.
>>4742830>How do we deal with out friend Merlin?ask what the fuck does he wants mostly, then see if killing him would be needed.
>>4742894>Give your daughter a cock and let her fuck her sister, that's what I always say.
>>4742894this but with Cu
>>4742900maybe, cu seems to be quite good at flirting, at least on making schoolgirls get wet for him.
>>4742830ask him what the fuck his deal is, depending on his answer, we won't turn him to stone
>>4742900>just pin her down and stick it in if she's annoying you, always worked for me>>4742903didn't he always fail to seal the deal though?
>>4742903Cu had a pretty fucked love life and killed his own son before dying. I wouldnt take his advice.
>>4742903I miss being able to write Cu.
>>4742903>flirtingYou misspelled "raep"
>>4742909soon we will have our bro back
>>4742908ot be far he wasnt aware it was his son.
>>4742912Maybe.
>>4742915with his battle continuation we have time to fix him.
>>4742915God said happiness for everyone dammit!
>>4742921Cu dies in battle, thus he's happy. Next.
>>4742921Nah, he's fine right now.You think he'd job offscreen after finally getting the chance to finally show his stuff?Maybe.
>>4742909Just write an interlude of Ayaka and Gil encountering him. Its a miracle that the two of them didn't encounter any enemy servants on their way to the forest. It would also make sense because... y'know. She''s an otome protag.
>>4742922I will renounce God if that happens
>>4742921Looks like he is not part of "everyone". Best of luck next time.
>>4742926>You think he'd job offscreen after finally getting the chance to finally show his stuff?That's all he ever does.
>>4742926>You think he'd job offscreenLancer ga shinda offscreen. Wouldn't even surprise me.
>>4742935>jobbing to Gilgameshlmao what a loser
>>4742940Did better than Herc did.
>>4742940No kidding.
unironically though, Gil is kinda fucked if Cu fights him, normal Lancer Cu survived Gil for 12 hours, he'd be completely preoccupied
>>4742940dude stalled gilgamesh for 12 hours.Imagine him with some backup.
>>4742945That"s exactly what we want. Keep them both busy until we can get there and headpat Cu.
Quick translation autism I found regarding timing of 1st Magic. "By the way, "The night before AD" is a misrendering.The JP text is "AD 前夜" (AD zenya) — "the eve (preceding) AD,"Mary as 1st Magician theory still holds.
>>4742957Mary is the most venerated and well known Saint in Catholicism, how the fuck do the Barthomeloi keep the First Magician hidden
>>4742967Why would they keep it secret? Church prob just says Mary as a Saint had the right to enact Mysteries/phenomenon intervention like how Risei's piety made Kirei eligible to receive magic as Sacrament(or Circuits? Wording was weird).It could be that it was kept secret tho. Barthomeloi are very big faction/family. We also still dont know who Director of Clocktower is.
>>47429571st magician shouldn't be any kind of famous person.That wouldn't make any sense because true magic is kept extra secret for mystery preservation, even Aoko, who is a famous magus isn't known to the public as such, so the idea that the First is known by everyone and has their magical feats recorded in the most widely distributed writings of the modern world is absurd.
>>4742976But if they dont know that a famous person was Magician or how it worked, it doesnt matter. Even so, Mystery is conserved if you know about something, but not its inner workings. Everyone knew birds flew and lightning existed, they were still True Magic and the domain of Divinity in ancient times.
>>4742983That's actually another point against Jesus and Mary being First candidates, because their power is of divine origin.True Magic comes from the root, and represents challenges for humanity to overcome.
>>4742990We don't know the nature, attributes or being of God or their relation to Humans. We also don't thus know, whether boons of him are not things otherwise attainable. Is Solomons method of Clairvoyance inherently different from a thaumaturgical variant, or merely extremely potent.True Magic is also not inherently something to overcome, merely that for humanity to overcome the "infantile stage of intelligent lifeforms" and leave to the skies(Cosmos), they would have to do so.
>>4742998Furthermore, just because Lightning was True Magic, did not disqualify it from being the Authority of chief skyfathers like Zeus or Vishnu. True Magic is no a category mutually exclusive with Divinity and Authority.
>>4742999I wonder how our New Age of Gods will work. Gonna be a wild ride.
Why is there a vote to send assassin by herself against 2 heroes and Illya? That's a sucide mission if I've ever seen one.We also have another win condition that Saber suggested. Take the sword out of his tail.
>>4743005i just voted for that because i didn't fucking want to contact Alan, i wanted to send Shuten, Tamamo and Medea
>>4742749>Ask Saber Fairy if she needs to contract with somebody. She's too powerful not to be at full strength (Who?): Sakura>Go intercept the battle between the two groups.Clear the board first before opening up more fronts. If allies are among the other group they reinforce us against Orochi. If they are hostile they aren't a surprise. With the fronts lowered we can split for Illya or focus on one target (Orochi).
>>4743006This. Its better than retarding
>>4742998It's possible for certain divine effects to be replicated, but there's not much of a case for big aog stuff like God's wisdom or invulnerability blessings.>True Magic is also not inherently something to overcome, merely that for humanity to overcome the "infantile stage of intelligent lifeforms" and leave to the skies(Cosmos), they would have to do so.Except it is because timelines where humans aren't on track to advance this way aren't allowed to exist.>>4742999Not debating that because fucking everthing is stated to be equal to/almost/above True Magic.>>4743005She's an Assassin and doesn't have to attack anyone, so she can stay in Concealment without risk of detection.
>>4743006That's bad too since Her is supposed to be a Gil buster and has a bunch of anti divine. On top of that being an archer would fuck the casters. They'd be super dead.
>>4743005I don't think Alcides is with Illya yet. He's further away than us, and he's not faster than Dragon+TeleportIf he's with Illya, he kills any Divine we send there. And we have nothing but Divines to send there.Chiyome has Presence Concealment A+. She can do her thing from stealth, and it's not even an attack that'll lead her to drop stealthChiyome is the only one who can do this if we don't go there ourselves, and we can't afford to spend the time to go there ourselves.
>>4743007You're over an hour too late.>>4743013If Illya does turn out to be Ishtar Alcides will once again be vindicated in his hatred for all gods.
>>4743010The vote is vague we, it just says do her thing. Is that follow, purify, assassinate?>>4743008How many people voted for alan? It couldn't be that many people voting for the retard meme vote.
>>4743010The qualification of timelines to Pruning is not failure to advance, but lack of valence, or the presence of certainty. Theoretically if you had a thing where humanity never achieved Magics as Science, but eternally bounced between states of peace and war, advancing far before collapsing back to the stone age equivalent without losing Primacy, it would be a valid timeline. Valence or Oscillation is the required attribute.
>>4743016Too many people voted for Alan for my sanity.
>>4743022
>>4743021In short, is there hope for change or fear of change? Either works, regression or advancement. As long as its not static
>>4743016We'll see what she needs to do when she contacts us, we can command her telepathically once we know what's going on with Illya.Compared to Shuten, Chiyome has much more of what we need from an actual stealth operative as she actually has experience with information gathering and ninja techniques.
>>4743016Purify. That's what Chiyome's thing is now. This is not a typical pseudoservant situation, but a curse left behind by the real Ishtar that manifests and a person the original with Ishtar. The longer we wait, the higher the chances of not getting Illya back.
>>4743024
>>4743031Real cute little sister material.
>>4743031>>4743032...
Kama is based.
>>4743032>>4743037Kama is the closest thing you could get to dark sakura
>>4743041Other than Dark Sakura herself, I assume.
Bruh. The Requiem worldline is even more scuffed than what I said before, look at this."The original significance of a Holy Grail War is laying down a magic circle, a Holy Grail. That is, a "ritual" that calls forth miracles. Like bombs strategically place on the major leyline foci around the globe and then detonated. The Mystery, the Holy Grail might be organic or inorganic before it descends, but either or, its true form is a magic circle. It has been confirmed that during the war, there were over thirty Holy Grail Wars of various sizes co-currently primed and ready to begin. Initially, the Holy Grail Wars were held in secret but before long the increasingly tense conflicts between countries and terrorism flung the gates opens and the Grail Wars ran rampant in the open.""Yeah. People from around the world were deceived. When they learned that the World War III began to nurture an innumerable amount of Holy Grail Wars, they were already past the point of no return.""The Holy Grail in our hearts is a terminal device of the Stigmata... the supreme Holy Grail Manazuru Chitose and St. Longinus obtained. The final victor Manazuru Chitose asked to the wish granting Holy Grail to persist and distribute itself..." "The victors of the Holy Grail Wars in various places repeatedly moved to different battlefronts, aiming for greater heights, more fighting. They fought in muddy battles to possess the Holy Grails that others had won. The Stigmata put an end to that. Strangely enough, they settled it similar to a tournament."
>>4743044If only. Even if the change is only cosmetic, I'd like to see her transform in the quest.But with Tiamat inside her, and living a happy life for years, I doubt it.
>>4743047Based on SF, it may be Prelati's fault? Requiem that is. They say this: "It's on my list, but it's just one stop on the way (dragging the 3rd down to Magecraft). I think we'll be able to reproduce it once the pioneers of the stars advance a few more levels. Same for the Holy Grail War itself. So, I'm going to be starting as many Grail Wars as I can. I'd like you guys to show some enthusiasm analyzing its pattern."
"Saber... Sorry for going quiet there for a moment... You aren't tuned into our telepathic communication system right now, are you?" You phrase it as a question, even though you already know the answer. When you don't receive a response from the unamused queen of the fairies, you change the subject. "About... magical energy... You've been partially incarnated, right?" You have no idea how the erasure of the effects of the grail mud will effect the partial incarnation of the girl.Saber Fairy looks at you for a moment before responding. "I think it might go a little further than that, I believe that this planet as it is now is... providing me with all of the magical energy that I need to exist. Though I don't think I'll be able to make much use of my..." The woman stops for a moment and blinks in surprise. "Noble Phantasms, without somebody supplying me with magical energy. I am seemingly unable to create my own magical energy as I would be able to if I were actually truly incarnated." Saber Fairy frowns a little, seemingly just a little bit irritated by her false incarnation not giving her full authority over her own abilities."Well... If you're OK with it, I can... contract you to a Master, so you'll be able to use their magical energy." Sakura has more than enough magical energy spare, and if she can tap into the magical energy of Tiamat, she would basically have enough magical energy to run the entire planet with. The mere act of Tiamat releasing her magical energy would create an explosion equivelant to a Hydrogen Bomb, after all. "Oh! Also, I've been thinking of a name for you, I can't keep calling you Saber, can I? Not when there's already so many people who share the title" "A... name?" The copy of Saber freezes up for a moment as she looks at you, not expecting to have suddenly be granted a name, or at least offered one. Asking somebody to make their own name for themselves is just... too cruel, honestly. Saber Fairy doesn't have any life experiences other than a few memories stolen from the original Saber... Speaking of which, her existence might be just a little bit different to explain to Saber, and Morgan... and Mordred."That's right, I was thinking... Obeithion" A name that means 'Hope' in Welsh, if your strangely comprehensive grasp of the Welsh language is anything to go by, at least.[Status Updated!]"Obeithion..." Saber Fairy repeats the name. "That's... That's my name. I accept this name from you, Magus." There's a faint smile on her face as she accepts the name, and you smile just a little in return. You're glad that you won't have to keep calling her Saber in person anymore.
"You know, you can call me Shinji, you don't need to keep calling me 'Magus'." Honestly, it's weird and impersonal, and while you don't feel like you're close with this woman at all, there's no doubt about it that your magic was what allowed her to go from a shade of Saber into somebody who truly counted as her own being, so you suppose that in a way, she could be called your dau-... Damn it, not again."As you wish, Shinji." The woman quickly accepts your offer to be on a first name basis with her, thankfully. "Now, you mentioned something about a contract?" Seems that she does at least want to be of some use, she probably wants revenge on the girls that treated like a toy, and probably also to... well, save the World. She's probably already aware of just what Manaka intends, after all."Yes, Sakura, come here for a moment." You call out to your sister, who obediently, if cautiously, walks up to Obeithion. "Would you mind trying to... contract with this woman? She'll need a supply of magical energy if she's going to be of assistance, and I'm already stretched to about my limit of magical energy I can give passively without my reserves draining too quickly to recover from.""Oh... OK, Onii-chan!" Sakura places her hand on Obeithion's chest, the woman blushes ever so slightly at the action taken by Sakura, who looks strangely smug as she attempts to contract with the woman. Suddenly, her smug smirk turns into a determined expression, with gritted teeth "I've been working on learning how to suppress nullification ever since I was unable to have my... bond with Medusa strengthened!" Sakura reveals just how she was capable of reforging her contract with Medusa, how nice that she's being proactive with learning how to use her magic!There's a flash of light as the contract is formed, and Obeithion becomes Sakura's Servant. Bound to your sister's magical energy. No new command spells are formed though, but you feel like Saber Fairy isn't going to be disloyal. It's not like she really has any sort of wishes with the exception of maybe being allowed to live her own life."Well, with that out of the way, we're going to be... heading out of the forest, but only temporarily." This may or may not go against the guidance of God, but as far as you can tell, you're going to need Alcides to defeat Orochi, and going into the fight without him is asking for trouble and for your allies to be slain by the terrible Snake God. "Alítheia!" You call out to your daughter, who looks up at you. "Please take your dragon form again, we need to leave the bounds of the forest temporarily." "OK, father!" Alítheia quickly assumes the majestic form as the Golden Queen of Dragons, and as she does, Obeithion has a look of awe and respect upon her face. The Fairy Queen having a moment of respect for the Queen of Dragons, it seems. How strangely heartwarming.
You all quickly board Alítheia once more, and have the girl take off. After about a minute of flying, you can hear a voice in your head once again. 'I've located Illyasviel, she... does have a divine aura around here, but... what's more, she's at the docks with Leysritt and... Jason and Alcides.' A divine aura...? Then it has to be...! Wait!'What?! Is Leysritt really that quick?! And... how did those two already get there!?' You were certain that if you used Alítheia and Medea's teleportation magecraft, you'd be able to intercept Illya faster than she could meet up with the two Servants! Then...'Umm... one of the dots just... instantly moved a second ago, like it... disappeared.' Satsuki reveals something you should've seen coming from a mile away. Command Spell Teleportation! Damn it! Damn it! Damn it! DAMN IT! No, you haven't yet lost this! You won't let yourself be defeated like this!>Have Chiyome attempt to sneak up on Illya anyway, and have Karna distract the two Servants with arrows.>Go all in, have the rest of your allies fall back to help get Alcides and Illya back... and Jason, you suppose.>You don't need to get Illya just yet, she'll have to wait until you've defeated Orochi. You'll find a way.>Create your own plan. (What?)
>>4743062You don't need to get Illya just yet, she'll have to wait until you've defeated Orochi. You'll find a way
>>4743062I guess we could have Karna Command Seal'd to distract them without just nuking the entire city with NP? And then have Chiyome touch dissolve Curse Ishtar? Do we have a way to communicate the need of CS to Ciel?
They shouldn't know about Chiyome yet
>>4743047>>4743057Now I kinda believe Requiem is an Extra tier "about to be culled if you don't change something" timeline. Well, it's that or scuffed Servant Universe prologue.
Well here it isDo we /need/ Herc to fight Zouken=Orochi or is just third-partying him while he goes to fend off that other group of servants (Merlin's or Weiba?) on the table?
>>4743062>>Have Chiyome attempt to sneak up on Illya anyway, and have Karna distract the two Servants with arrows.>>Send Shuten, Tamamo and Medea as back up just in case>>Deal with OrochiAlright we got throw as much as we can at Illya before things go really wrong, we can go and deal with Orochi as they deal with whatever the fuck is happening with them, we can't even use those three so better they do something>>4743076Ishtar is a curse, if Chiyome touches Illya its game over, what i'm really worried about now is Enkidu
>>4743062>You don't need to get Illya just yet, she'll have to wait until you've defeated Orochi. You'll find a way.Get the sword from his tail it's too late to stop Jason's NP. Just accept the L on this one and knockout one of our issues before this becomes a four way war.
>>4743085Should we try to have Shuten steal some of Orochi's power since she's kinda related, or just kill him off and don't try to get big brain with it?
>>4743085That's a great way to get our Casters dead. Herx is the divine killer and an archer. As for our little Ninja are you sure Herc or Ishtar won't sense her.Let's also not ignore gods advice of going straight for Orochi. It's even in last chapters dialogue this may break it.
>>4743085Sending Shuten Tamamo and Medea there is just asking for them to get killed by Alc, they're all divine.
At most have archer nuke every boat in the harbor. Stops her from.formimg her own faction.
Can we just have Karna blow up the boats and hope Ishtar-Illya protects herself with Alcides?
>>4743092sounds like an awful idea that will have Orochi eat her for power or turn her into Ibuki-Douji>>4743093We are heading straight for Orochi, we're sending people who can't do anything against Orochi to deal with Illya and Alcides, we can't just have them do literally nothing.
>>4743062>Have Medea teleport to Arcueid with Tamamo, Shuten and Chiyome>Have Medea teleport Arcueid and Chiyome to Ishtar>Have Arcueid and Karna distract the two servants while Chiyome sneaks up on Ishtar.Fucking Ishtar.
>Epiphany in the Jaws of Death: A>A powerful skill that only activates in the face of certain death, when the conditions for activation are fulfilled, this skill functions as a composite of Eye of the Mind (True), Eye of the Mind (False) and Instinct, all ranked at A. A powerful combination of foresight, sixth sense, and battleground knowledge. When faced with his certain death, even when his loss should be certain, Jason can potentially pull off a miracle. >>4743062>Ask Karna to bombard the docks, destroying all ships and materials but avoid killing bystanders>Ask Medea to overcharge invisibility spell and go fight Orochi but send divine Servants home and ask them to fortify it>>4743081Shiki can do it alone.
>>4743105I think having Medea and Tamamo slap some buffs unto people is a better worth of their time than sending them to Mr.Divinity Murderer McHeracles.
>>4743062Changing from:>>4743086To:>Create your own plan. (What?): Have Karna destroy boats in the harbor.> Shinji's group goes from the group about to clash.
>>4743062>Have Chiyome attempt to sneak up on Illya anyway, and have Karna distract the two Servants with arrows.>Give Sakura one of your infinite nutrient bars.It's Ishtar's curse, all Chiyome needs to do is touch her to dispel it.
>>4743110>>4743062+1 Let's hope this doesn't fuck up too much. We're essentially left with Sakura, Rin and Alitheia in the forest, right?
>>4743105Your having divines fight an anti-divine Gil buster. There all dead if they go.
>>4743119Also, Shiki and the Queen of the Fairies. Those sent away wouldn't be useful against Orochi anyway.
>>4743110>>4743062>>4743085changing to this. Herc famously got done in by Gil because he was more focused on protecting Illya than killing Gil, if he thinks Illya is going to be killed, he's going on defense and focusing solely on that
>>4743120This is also very true...fuuuckChanging >>4743119to>Create your own plan. (What?): Have Karna destroy boats in the harbor.> Shinji's group goes from the group about to clash.>Have Casters buff Saber Fairy and Masters and then provide out-range artillery type support, hoping to out range Anti-Divinity and aiming at non-Orochi targets.
>>4743125Beserker is also his weakest class. Plus this is Ishtar she's not going to be as weak as Illya.
Forgot to link to >>4743062Voting>>4743128
>>4743128No, we're sending only Arcueid and Chiyome against the Gil buster. The divines will stay safely home. I FIRMLY believe there's a time limit to saving Illya, Ishtar's curse is supposed to overwrite the person she's possessing.
>>4743131I am also hoping that Ishtallya is going to want to preserve their life at all costs.
>>4743133Then at least have Medea teleport back out, she's gonna be sniped by Alcides if she stays on the field imo.
ok i feel like we should be reminded that Ishtar is gonna be unable to take control of Illya, the only reason why she was able to completely come out in FSF was because her vessel was an empty shell of a person, Illya isn't
I wonder if I were to make a worst girl poll, who would win...?
>>4743133As soon as she farted in that direction Illya was overwritten. It's probably why god told us to purify the grail. If Shinji connects to the root then he'd be able to use it to revive Illya.
>Nasu: If Arc takes off her limiter, she can probably materialize an entire small village in the mountains. But in modern towns that have been built up thanks to the work of many people, she has to destroy in order to create. More time is necessary. During this time, the Church would find her, then shout "Stop!" and then it'd become a war. It's very hard to face humans simply with Marble Phantasm. Maybe other creatures, but not humans. Honestly, though, Arc is like a God. A spirit in flesh.
>>4743134Wonder what she'd look like
Why does everyone assume that Alcides's skill will work on Medea?She doesn't seem to have true divinity, only in the form of her NP.Tamamo would get screwed thoughLet's not forget about his Magic Resistance at A, this would fuck both of them.>Hatred of Gods: A+A skill representing Avenger's hatred of all that is divine. A situational skill that only functions should Avenger find himself in combat with an enemy with Divinity of C or higher>>4743062>>4743110This
>>4743137Medea can send people away without having to go there herself. She did this for everyone when they took positions for the battle.
>>4743139WuKong or Ishtar
>>4743139Do it.
>>4743140You may have written Illya off, but I haven't.
>>4743141That's something I'm worried about too. If arc counts as divine for Orochi's skills I don't see why she wouldn't for Alcides'.
>>4743110Support. We should go after the snake.
>>4743140>>4743138read
>>4743143Medea has literally zero mortal blood. Her parents are spirits her grandparents are Titans and Gods.I am assuming she has Divinity thats not on her sheet basically, otherwise its too retarded.It can be argued that the line that Rule Breaker is the crystallization of her divinity, but the fucking granddaughter of Helios with no mortal blood has only blood worth an NP of C?
>>4743143This is still a stronger version of the man that had Gil shitting his pants in his weakest form. Beserker also couldn't use his NP. If Shiro Archer can snipe Madea than Herc will dunk on her especially with his NP.
>>4743139Manaka
>>4743139Altrouge
>>4743157No one is proposing sending Medea to Alcides.
>>4743062>Have Chiyome attempt to sneak up on Illya anyway, and have Karna distract the two Servants with arrows.Stupid fucking curse ishtar I say we have Chiyome purify it out
I remember us discussing getting some Anti-Ishtar Devices early in the quest should this situation happen, could we have Karna attach a few of them to his arrows and fire them at her? If we really need to we can grab Gil and see if he'll give us a few OG Anti-Ishtar Devices from the Gate that we can use.
>>4743155That's an assumption that isn't really backed up. She would have struggled, plus other examples of divinity from fate/go has the god in the driver's seat.Also if you read the wiki she's on the level of a servant. Even if you could force Herc to defend her that would require the cold blooded calc to target a friend's body.
>>4743110>>4743062Support
>>4743162Actually if you look up some people wish to send them.Sending assassin by herself will also get her killed. Jason's skill would warn them. Also Ishtar can control true archers arrows. I'm betting she can do that with Herc's.
>>4743062Changing >>4743132to>>4743110Fine, changing back. Karna is probably(?) fine to stall Alcides for a bit until Chiyome deathtouches Ishtar. He may be divine but he should have Kavacha and Kundala?
>>4743168We don't have anything on hand. This is a curse, Chiyome can purify her. We just need to get her close. Arcueid and Karna will work as distractions.
>>4743169>That's an assumption that isn't really backed upits backed up by how FGO portrays Pseudo Servants and the explanation FSF gave for why Ishtar was able to completely take over her host
If you all going to vote to fight them at least send in Aoko, Satsuki and Chiyome.Trap them in Reality Marble and have Chiyome aprehend Illya.
>>4743169You can also take it in the direction that as the Lesser Grail, Illya should have an advantage in that she is innately made to house Heroic Spirit souls. So it's not just human soul vs HS soul. At least by hope.Curse Ishtar should not be full Divine Spirit, as she does not possess her Authority...? And is not squished by Human Order.
>>4743180shit, that's actually a solid idea, but can Satsuki use her reality marble on demand though?
>>4743176Alright, I didn't notice them. I agree then we shouldn't send Medea there. I also agree we shouldn't send Chiyome alone. That's why I'm proposing sending Arcueid with her.
>>4743180This is a good point Satsuki isn't divine she might just be able to apprehend Illya with her RM.
>>4743179If you look at the qms comments on that last thread I think it should give you a clear view.
>>4743062Calling in 30
>>4743178Yes, we get her close. Which the Anti-Ishtar Devices will allow us to do.
>>4743184Does Arc count as divine? Orochi was able to eat her. Also send Aoko she's powerful without being divine.
>>4743189But we don't actually have any anti-ishtar devices.
>>4743182Normally I'd say no but it's probable that she can do it on demand thanks to her immense intuitive control over her abilities.
>>4743188QM, whats your thought on these>>4743156 >>4743182Should Medea just get divinity on her sheet?Also how good is Satsuki with her RM at the moment?
Anyway.>>4743062Changing from >>4743111 to>Aoko, Satsuki and Chiyome go after Illya>Arcueid go to police groups about to clash>Divine Servants go home and fortify it>Rest fly to join fight with Orochi
>>4743194Would Sacchin be protected a bit from NPs due to the whole DAs reject Human Order thing?
>>4743062Switching >>4743110 to >Have Medea teleport to the mansion with Tamamo, Shuten and Chiyome>Have Medea teleport Arcueid, Aoko, Satsuki and Chiyome to Ishtar without going there herself>Have Arcueid, Aoko, Satsuki and Karna distract the two servants while Chiyome sneaks up on Ishtar.>>4743190Yeah, you're right. The divines can man the fort with Shirou and Saber until the others can go back. Let's play it safe.
>>4743156She has divine blood but it doesn't count for the sake of the skill.>>4743182Yes.
>>4743195Medea has no human parentage at all, and her grandfather is Helios, Titan of the Sun, so...I feel like she should have it.
changing>>4743117to >>4743062>Teleport in Satsuki and Chiyome and have Satsuki drag everyone into Salvation Garden.
>>4743194ok so send her to battle and promise to give her something "really good" if she manages to use her reality marble again to trap Alcides
>>4743062Changing>>4743177to>>4743203
>>4743199It won't matter since she's damage immune in SG.
>>4743062changing>>4743143to >>4743203
Saber and Shirou continue manning the mansion solo?
>>4743216Nevermind noticed the Divines also at the mansion,
>>4743216Arcueid, Aoko and Satsuki are with them currently. Medea, Tamamo and Shuten will stay in the Mansion while the others go after Illya.
>>4743125>>4743203switching to this, if Satsuki manages to trap Alcides then things got a lot easier
>>4743203Are we going to the battle meanwhile team Karna+others tries for Illya? Does it have to be part of the vote or assumed to continue as is?
>>4743062>>4743153switching to this>>4743203
>>4743225Also, how the hell will Salvation Garden interact with Alcides' Avenger shit, I wonder?
>>4743203Arc and Karna are vulnerable to Hatred of Gods and Olympus se Tartarus, so I don't think that's a good plan.
>>4743226It wasn't mentioned, so I assume we'll next get a choice on where we want to go.
>>4743062Switch>>4743173To>>4743203
>>4743230They don't need to win or stall for hours, just a few seconds until Chiyome can stealth blitz Ishtallya
>>4743229reality marbles can't be fucked with unless you use an Excalibur type blast from the outside, divine or not, Ishtar won't be able to throw that kind of fire power around all willy nilly. Unless your Edmond Dantes, you aren't getting out of a reality marble
So Karna going to fire across half of Fuyuki instead of softing up the Orochi forces that about to attack Waver?
>>4743230Karna is currently a few kilometers away from Alcides and will stay there. I'm not sure Arcueid is actually vulnerable, but I think she will be able to manage even if she is. She doesn't need to actually defeat Alcides, just keep him from noticing Chiyome.
>>4743239I meant more in the "calms down people" part of Satsuki's RM and Avenger "can never not be autistically angry at shit"
>>4743241we're going to deal with Orochi ourselves, we can't let Ishtar pop up, we're already strapped for time and the walls are closing in on us
>>4743243also, Ishtar can't risk Alcides using his trump card, if he does, she's not gonna have much magical energy left and will be left vulnerable to attack, the NP only works so well if its a one on one
We also can't let Gilgamesh know Ishtar possessed Illya or he just deletes her wholesale without trying to separate them iirc.
>>4743062>>4743203Hopefully I’m not late. Support
We should also brief Chiyome on why we're having her touch Ishtallya, maybe she knows specifically how to BTFO possession curses like this based on her Skills better than we know.
>>4743062Change from:>>4743128To:>>4743203Kinda want to capture Ishtar and transfer her to Rin but that might not be viable.Ishtar Rin! Ishtar Rin! Ishtar Rin!
>>4743245Doing pre-emptive bombardment to signal that we are friends and here to help while before main battle with Orochi properly starts is rather easy. It is not like his explosive arrows will do a lot while we fight in close combat or inside Reality Marbel which abosorbs people inside.
>>4743251Ishtarin is based, but actively trying to get Rin possessed is not a great idea. Also, Kaleidosword Rin eats Ishtar incarnation trying to possess her apparently. Maybe in an Adjacent World we can see one in the wild.
>>4743252Waver will know we're friends the moment he actually sees us. We've been friends with him literally for a decade. The problem is that he's currently being manipulated by Merlin, and god knows what lies he's been fed since we last talked to him.
>>4743259I am pretty sure turning Saber Alter into Faerie Dragon Queen Obei fucked up a lot of Merlin's plans desu.
>>4743261And so did letting Mordred draw Caliburn. Good. The cockman can go fuck himself.
>>4743258What the stick does is put Rin in the driver's seat instead of Ishtar. So if we could transfer it while Ishtar has the stick on then we could get it but that's probably more difficult then it's worth.
I have a present for you.
>>4743203Support
>>4743263Kaleidostick works like that, but afaik Kaleidosword just makes her the higher existence instead of Ishtar bunrei and just eats her existence instead of other way around. Its Stick+Jewel Sword combined.
Brought out Ibuki for the first time in a while thanks to Akiba event and jesas i forgot she's fucking enormous We gonna try a Three Faces for Shuten down the line?
Fuck Ishtar. Banish her and then feed her to her mama
Rage of the AvengerInterlude Start."I swear by my name as a human, you will not go unpunished for what you have done to my Master." Alcides speaks his words in a low growl. "Were it not her body that you stole, I would destroy you where you stood, goddess." At this moment, Alcides was perhaps as angry as he had ever been in life, a fury of absolute coldness that could freeze a lava flow."Oh please, give me a break. Is that all you can talk about? How much you hate me for taking your Master away from you? I'm sorry, but what I wanted was simply more important than her continued existence. Now..." The goddess within the body of the small homunculus hesitates for a moment. "What... was your name? It seems that my vessel is being... stubborn, when it comes to giving herself to me, a pointless exercise, of course, soon she will be fully integrated into me." The goddess sighs as she leans back against a beam of the boat they are standing on. "I don't want to keep using these Command Spells of hers either until she's gone, it seems that each time I do, she manages to siphon some of the power away to hold on longer." The goddess frowns, and talks with mock compassion. "Really, she's only making the experience more painful for herself. If you had any sense at all, you would've let your mind dissolve away already. You understand that, don't you Illyasviel?." The Goddess talks to herself in a strange sense, almost as if she's taunting the previous occupier of the body, this does little but stoke Alcides' rage ever further. His wish to save his Master from the whims of this contemptuous Goddess was rapidly becoming all that was keeping him sane at all."If you think that you're going to get away with this, you're sorely... mistaken." Alcides gives the girl a taunting smirk. "And you don't even know why, do you? Go ahead, use your command spells." The Goddess seems to have something of a talent for revealing too much information than is beneficial for her, even going so far as to reveal that his Master had yet to submit to her fully. If she still exists, then... There's a chance."You there, Jason. How long until this ridiculous boat of yours is complete?" The goddess soon loses interest in the seething hero, and looks at the captain of the vessel, who is being assisted by one of the homunculus maids from the manor, though she's looking uncharacteristically angry. Alcides in truth wasn't even certain if this one was capable of feeling such emotions."A-About six hours time, with Alcides helping like he is." Alcides didn't resent Jason for not defying the Goddess like he defied her, because he knows that deep down, his life-long friend must be feeling the exact same as him. He didn't get to know Illyasviel for very long, but he could never see Jason betraying him, he... must have a plan! He always does!
"Excellent, then when that's done, I'll use the Heroes brought about from this vessel to annihilate that fool Gilgamesh, and that worm Enkidu as well!" This Goddess' actions were inhumane enough that it made Alcides feel sick, that she would involve an innocent girl in a twisted desire for revenge against two heroes she had already received vengeance upon. Alcides made a pledge at this moment, this goddess, this 'Ishtar'. He would traverse the Reverse side to drag her full form down to Tartarus himself. He swore on the spirit of his mother, he would not allow this goddess to go unpunished. Interlude Out.
>>4743273Lmao, does this mean Ishtar herself has the Tohsaka curse of self-sabotage, according to Alcides?
>>4743275Post-War Adventure in the Reverse, Gilgamesh+Enkidu+Alcides+Shinji Ishtar Extermination quest?
I really hope Berserker Enkidu is the one that was summoned. Lancer Enkidu was when he became civilized, Berserker Enkidu was when he was still a clay monster made to deal with Gilgamesh. >>4743280i think Alcides will appreciate that we want to go for it too
>>4743273>>4743275Bless you WhatIs. Alcides seething. Illya holding on. I hope we get many more interludes like this. We should have "Alcides was right" tattooed or something. Fuck Ishtar, and fuck the gods.And I knew, I just fucking knew, we were on a time limit to save Illya.
>>4743282there's not one God we've met that was good, starting to think YHWH is full of shit
>>4743273>>4743275WhatIs, would trick with contacting Alan work?
>>4743285Let's see if his walkthrough leads us to killing Orochi with no casualties like he claimed, and then we can decide whether we need to kill God.
>>4743289You'd have had to have offered him something mighty tempting for him to up and erase Ishtar for you.
>>4743275Alcides is the fucking best. Seriously, fuck the gods, they're all dicks. Fuck Ishtar in particular.I want to crush her godhood. Eviscerate her ideals. Trample upon her memory.Ilya better be alright after this.
>>4743292>it was that easyOh well. Bad luck.
>>4743285I'd say reserve judgment for now.If he actually gave us what we need to get through this without losing anyone then he's alright to me.
>>4743293 Amaterasu is alright, kinda
>>4743285Hey, Tamamo's alright. Nyarla too somehow.
>>4743273>>4743275Nice, suprise interlude.Based Alcides
>>4743299Tamamo is heavily sealed, she becomes an Evil of Humanity if she becomes Amaterasu, Nyarla is an Outer God that loves to make people suffer for laughs
>>4743301Tamamo only goes Evil of Humanity because she is the aramitama exression of Amaterasu, inherently being the "savage face" of a Divinity.
>>4743301>Nyarla is an Outer God that loves to make people suffer for laughsHe is also responsible for the destruction of the world through insanity and weirdness in the first story he appears.
>>4743285Aphrodite is cool, she helped Pygmalion out with his waifuIt's post-isekai servant mats though unfortunately
>>4743299>>4743270>Tamamo and Shuten like us a lot.>If they turned into gods they'd kill us with no hesitation.FUCK godhood man.
>>4743304We see Golden Fur White Face in Extra(or some derived game) and shes pretty alright,
>>4743307>Alcides was rightHow about we get matching t-shirts for everyone with this printed on?
>>4743306She also mindraped Medea into betraying her family and nation and accepting all the hatred and distrust for it just because Aphrodite wanted to help Jason.
>>4743301Yeah but if we judge gods on a scale of "Complete nuisance" to "Actively helping" since the time we met, they are suprisingly some of the better ones.>>4743307Does Medusa count as goddess now? If so there we have it, one of the good ones.
my plan of forcing Ishtar into a teddy bear and keeping her like that until she behaves is lookin pretty good right now
>>4743313she's as much a Goddess as Shuten right now
>>4743313 Quirinus=Romulus
Im of the opinion that gods are arrogant because their ego's and sense of self change to be an extreme. If they've always been like this from conception they have to learn humility somehow. Then again a god being humbled will be them acknowledging that a mortal is better than them.
>>4743313Also, Medusa was probably an Earth Mother Goddess with a really small cultural sphere. Shes related to Cybele of Anatolia prob.
Does Tamamo grow more tails over time? I think someone said something like that before we recruited her.Is Amaterasu inevitable unless we stop her?
>>4743331She's been stable since we met her, so we don't really know. It's an emergency if she manages to grow another tail.
>>4743331I think she can purposely seal it off, she doesn't like Amaterasu either
>>4743325The problem is that gods are incapable of self-reflection and chimp out whenever they lose at something.
>>4743331beeg
>>4743335I think its less "ama bad" and more "pls no ego-death", but yeah.
>>4743314Maido ishtar, and geas her not to take control of Rin. Perhaps incarnate her into a mortal with Rin as her base body for simplicity sake. I think pimping out her services to our allies would humble her. Truth ishtar with the ability of self reflection.
>>4743336Almost all gods are basically Gilgamesh x10.At least if you piss Gil off enough the worst he'll normally do is kill you.
>>4743337>>4743335>>4743334Don't suppose we could pull a Medusa and Gorgon here could we?Because holy shit if we could.
>>4743275Hol upWas THIS the roll Orochi got a redo on as per WhatIs...He rerolled Jason with motherfucking ENKIDU?!
>>4743342put her into a puppet body of Rin, seal and limit the absolute shit out of it so she can't do any magic shit, Illya can keep her as a maid and Alcides can break a few bones whenever he feels like it>>4743346we can't no, Amaterasu is a full on God and a Beast, Gorgon is angri Medusa
>>4743346I don't trust messing with Ama without being a a god ourself. She can exist and move independently of the time-axis and is Solar System level, as Sun Gods in Nasu are weird and more connected to the Cosmos than World for some reason than usual.
