"You're real, Saber. You may not be Arturia Pendragon, and you may not have been created to be an original being, but as you are now, you are real. The only thing holding you back from acknowledging that yourself is that you have yet to forge yourself an identity of your own. You may looks like her, but that should not be a deciding factor in what you are. You are your own person." You decide to give what you had once assumed to be Saber Alter a branch to grab onto. Personal hope for the being that represents hope.

"You..." The girl who used to be Saber Alter looks at you, though the name Saber Alter really doesn't fit her anymore, at least not as a way to refer to her, she's not an altered version of Saber, after all, but something that was based on her that has become completely different. Perhaps Saber Fairy would do for now? It's a better name than Saber Alter, at least, and seeing as she's got those huge butterfly wings now, she probably won't mind. "You really mean that...?"

"Of course I do, Saber. Your origins don't matter, in truth, the origins of few things do in the end. You are alive, and you exist just as much as the 'original' version of yourself does. You're a person, Saber. You aren't just some toy to be played with and discarded." You give the fairy winged girl a warm smile, approaching her slowly as you do. You don't want her to take any sudden actions with that Excalibur of hers. While you've managed to placate her with your words somewhat, you don't want her to react poorly to your approach.

She looks at your hand in curiosity as you reach out to her, and doesn't move or act as you pat the top of her head. You seem to have developed a bad habit of doing this to vulnerable people, and you know that it will probably eventually backfire on you, but not this time. Saber Fairy doesn't seem to understand how to react as you pat her soft blonde hair with your hand, lightly messing up the hair as you do.

"I don't know if you're going to need one, but if you want, I can have a contract set up for you so-" You're about to offer Saber Fairy the chance to become a Servant, though you aren't certain she needs it, it's likely that as a fairy, she's at least being given some magical energy from Gaia itself, and isn't suffering the same rejection that Heroic Spirits suffer from. But as you do...

'Advisor!' A panicked voice blasts into your head, as Mordred basically yells through the makeshift mental link, before calming down. 'Advisor... Something has gone wrong, we were doing battle against a man with black armor and that Siegfried guy you were talking about, and then... Alcides and Jason! Alcides seized up for a moment, trying to resist what looked like a command spell, but then he stabbed Archer through the chest and fled! At that point, I used my Noble Phantasm to drive the two of them off, but...'

'I'm fine, by the way. It's not exactly pleasant, but the wound wasn't a fatal one.' EMIYA's voice comes through the mental link now, and you're at least relieved that he isn't dead. After all, if he had somehow kicked the bucket, not only would you have lost a reliable ally and the future version of your friend, but also, Manaka would've gained a powerful tool to use against you.

'You're all currently safe then, right?' You want to confirm that nobody in the powerful group has actually managed to get themselves wounded.

'Right. We're all a little worse for wear, but no casualties. I was trying to say that my Noble Phantasm seemed to have a limited effect on the man in the black armor. Almost as if he was... resistant to it. What's more, I don't know why, but it... seems like he recognized me too. Though I've never seen him before.' Mordred sounds deeply concerned by things as they are right now. Though you can't blame her, you're just as concerned. Why would Alcides betray you? What could've led him to do such a thing? This is deeply worrying, and you feel like you somehow missed something.

'I-is this how you activate this?' suddenly, Satsuki's voice comes through the mental link.

'That's right, what's up, Satsuki?' You don't know why somebody from Rin's house would get involved in this conversation, but Satsuki might have some news to share that is relevant, in fact, she almost certainly does have something relevant to say.

'I was with the red eyed girl... Illyasviel, a few seconds ago and... and she started acting really strangely. She started treating all her maids like slaves, before she commanded... I think she was called Leysritt...? To carry her off somewhere...' You grit your teeth together. You have a really really bad feeling about all of this. You can tell that you're going to need to make a decision immediately, and looking at Iskandar Alter, you don't know if it's worth trying to purify him first, or trying to reunite with your allies to decide on your next steps.

>Rendezvous with your allies. You need to get back with them all.
>Have your allies rendezvous with you instead while you work on restoring Iskandar.
>Tell your allies to meet you at the Einzbern Castle, or what's left of it, at least.
>Ask one of the Servants if they can try and track down Illya or Alcides and Jason. Karna should be watching, right?
>Write-in...

Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Manaka took control of the Lesser Grails. Is Sakura's Nullifcation strong enough to resist?

I have and will continue to hate Ishtar

>>4742180
Why would Ishtar possess Illya now?

>trying to brute force activation of the Grail before war ends and using its connection to lesser grails to take control of them from afar
Clever move

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>>4742146
fix'd

So Enkidu probably exists too. Which chain summoned Ishtar in?

We can't let Jason build his boat, in fact we're lucky that we didn't finish the thing. Odds are they're going to the port to finish it so Ishtar can gather all of the Argonauti under her thumb.

I want to say just have Karna nuke the port, and have him shoot down evry single boat he can see too so they have no base to build the Argo from.

>>4742183
Drama, WhatIs was talking about it

i wonder if this is Acht controlling illya somehow.

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Being Alcides is suffering.
Also did posting just go down for like ten minutes?

I am 99% certain the man in black armor is Vortigern. Something that opposes Mordred's NP which is Caliburn? Vortigern's Anti-Holy Sword attribute. He seems to recognize her? Obvious.

>>4742190
>Also did posting just go down for like ten minutes?
yes

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>>4742186
Pafacto.

How do we actively diagnose the issue? Karna's able to I guess? if he can track her he can see whatever is fucking with her.

Probably the best bet.

If it is Ishtar he port and every single boat has to be deleted from this city.

>>4742190
I thought it was noscript suddenly fucking with 4chanx, it stopped when I turned it off but guess it happened to everyone

Should we contract iskandar with somone first? Or is it something that can be postponed for later.

>>4742187
I still think it's Manaka. Why would Enkidu be summoned this moment? Why would Ishtar order Alcides to betray us?

Drama is not an acceptable answer. Manaka taking control of the Lesser Grails and Sakura being in imminent danger is even more dramatic.

Also, Knight in Black Armor could be Agravain or maybe Galahad. Both specialize in defense, Agravain already wears black armor, Galahad could have been twisted.

>>4742190
Yeah. I was wondering what's going on.

>>4742199
Have Rin shove him in a pocket dimension, we do not have time for him.

>>4742200
>Galahad
can't be summoned normally for a grail war, the dude already has the holy grail.

welp I guess Medea will now have legit excuse to bully Jason

>Have your allies rendezvous with you instead while you work on restoring Iskandar.
Probably better for them to get on the move and for us to try and ensure the alterification won't net us another stab in the back

>>4742199
have rin chuck him in a dimensional box with some cheap weak gems to munch on if he needs mana to exist, but an absolute dripfeed at most.

>>4742200
Agravain should have an ability that cuts damage, he his epithet is Agravain Who Knew No Wounds. Thicc armour and he personally hates Mordred. But he is also loyal to the perfect king, who he saw as Artoria.

>>4742203
Galahad Alter is mentioned in Requiem if that matters.

>>4742200
So
>its manaka
>its ishtar, somehow
did we do kill Acht? i forgot, if not he may be controlling illya?

>>4742203
Does this really look like a normal grail war to you?

>>4742206
He's a Servant to the man who created command seals and commands the power of a god, he can be brought to heel. Vortigern is a better guess as >>4742192 said though, he also has the dragon connection.

>>4742209
Acth is alive, but has never shown an ability to remote control his homunculi like that. And he could have chosen a far better moment to do it.

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>>4742206
Why do we still not have Agravain as a Servant in FGO yet?

if illya is hurt i'm going vlad the impaler in whoever did it.

If it was Acht or Ishtar, why would they command Alcides to just stab EMIYA? Instead of you know, command sealing either to come back to them or just "Use your strongest NP to murder everyone present"?

>>4742173
>Ask Medea to teleport Arc and Satsuki to you and commence an attack on Ryuudou Temple
>Ask Mordred to drag the fight with Orochi's Servants to Waver's group and retreat to join the assault on temple

>Have Rin throw DUDE into gaybaby jail via the Second
>Have Karna track Ilya with his Clairvoyance, and use Discernment of the Poor to assess what has come over her. Does she have a strong Divine presence?
>Have Satsuki run to the basement and give a description of the map's lights as things are for full bearings of movements over the last few moments
>based on the map readout/Karna's feedback then move allies

last one is probably next update.

>>4742214
Agravain is based, I love the guy and I wish him all the best.

What did Alcides stab EMIYA with? I imagine he'd be dead if it was Hydra poison?

>>4742219
It wasn't Hydra Poison.

>>4742219
+1

We need information and can't abandon the assault on Orochi, at least not without some really REALLY good cause.

Alright proposal:

Check up on Sakura immediately
Have Rin chuck Iskandar into a pocket dimension.
Tell Mordred to keep pushing on Orochi, she has to keep up the pressure. Tell her the Black Knight is probably Vortigern or Agravain.
Ask Karna for a sitrep
Go save Illya from whatever's been done to her

What the fuck do we even do if it's Manaka?

>>4742173
>>4742219
+1
>>4742210
>Does this really look like a normal grail war to you?
I mean, he would refuse simply because he has no need for the grail, maybe if he was twisted, i dont know.

An can please things stop happening so we ca kill orochi

>>4742219
Wait a second. Can't we just phone/sticker Arc to capture them? She should be able to just take them down non lethally even if was actually Ishtar.

>>4742226
And what's to stop Tesla, Cu and Bazett from sweeping the mansion of Arc leaves?

>>4742226
we do need to ask karna first, the better would be to have a "ask karna" vote then have another vote depending of what he says.

>>4742221
What did he stab him with?

his... benis? finger? unnamed NP knoif?

>>4742223
Purifying kunai? Leys is low tier servant at best in speed. Checking up on Sakura is also probably important. We also need to tell Rin to give EMIYA a big flush of mana to get him back in the fray asap. Maybe even a cs heal. Having Mordred continue on is good.

so:

>Have Rin throw DUDE into gaybaby jail via the Second, have her send EMIYA a shitload of mana to heal or spend a cs to heal him and check her connection to ensure he's otherwise ok
>Have Karna track Ilya with his Clairvoyance, and use Discernment of the Poor to assess what has come over her. Does she have a strong Divine presence? Manaka etc.
>Have Satsuki run to the basement and give a description of the map's lights as things are for full bearings of movements over the last few moments
>Tell Mordred to keep pushing on
>fondle Sakura to assess her for any interference from Manaka
>based on the map readout/Karna's feedback then move allies

Autisticly comprehensive enough?

>>4742228
If Tesla Odin-Cu and whatever Bazett is swooped in, I don't think 50%-Bloodlustreduction% Arc could stop them desu.

She's already halved by Orochi and holding back bloodlust like normal. Odin-Cu+Tesla would be not good odds for anything surviving in the city if they fought imo.

>>4742233
This, but add a warning to Mordred about the Black Knights theorised identity.

>>4742233
I'd like to at least inform Arc that some of our allies are compromised, just so she doesn't get surprised, just in case.

Do we send Chiyome to run back for Illya too, or keep her close for Orochi? or you feel that is a post-readout/Karna info decision?

>>4742219
>>4742173
+1 on this one.

Why must everyone in this war be a chessmaster with their own entire faction.
We're going to need to adjust the Orochi strat.
I hope Saber Fairy gets along with her sister Mordred.

>>4742233
>>fondle Sakura to assess her for any interference from Manaka
oh my

>>4742173
Also, change >>4742224
to >>4742233 with >>4742240
warning.

>>4742240
ah yes

>>4742173
>Have Rin throw DUDE into gaybaby jail via the Second, have her send EMIYA a shitload of mana to heal or spend a cs to heal him and check her connection to ensure he's otherwise ok
>Have Karna track Ilya with his Clairvoyance, and use Discernment of the Poor to assess what has come over her. Does she have a strong Divine presence? Manaka etc.
>Have Satsuki run to the basement and give a description of the map's lights as things are for full bearings of movements over the last few moments
>Tell Mordred to keep pushing on. Warn her her target is likely Vortigern and he feeds on Holy Swords. Have her and allies avoid using Holy affinity things on him.
>fondle Sakura to assess her for any interference from Manaka
>based on the map readout/Karna's feedback then move allies


I'm saying Vortigern because she would recognise Agravain, they came to regular words often as he was always suspicious of her.

>>4742244
Oh yeah, maybe warn Mordred and group that Saber Fairy is now on our side. And a composite Fairy-Human-Dragon.

>>4742233
I'm hoping he just grab his arm and made him stab himself with Kanshou.

>>4742246
>>4742173
Support

>>4742173
>>4742246
Support

>>4742234
Arcueid hard counters Tesla, Electromagnetism is a natural force. Cu and Bazett will be tough, but Aoko's there too. Saber and Shirou are tired, but they both have a copy of Avalon and can stall for ages. Worse comes to worse, Satsuki can pull them all in her Reality Marble. I'm confident in the mansion's defenses as they are, there was a reason for The Plan. But without Arcueid, Tesla dabs on them all except Aoko.

>>4742249
She'll be with us probably, let's not distract them with unimportant details.

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>>4742243
We really need a scout in this forest, we'll see what the map says as we now own the last stray servant with PC so most if not all things should show.

The risk of having anyone chase Ilya is they get mogged by Cu or something, if we're to assume this is Manaka's doing.

If it's looking clear enough though we can send Chiyome to go grab Ilya and leave a substitution jutsu in Ley's arms before she realises, her PC won't drop below A+ as it's not a attack. Leys has to run past us almost so with her A agility Chiyome will catch up ez and Manaka can't know of Chiyome yet. Leys is running from the toesucker house, and if it is Manaka her destination would be the temple. Karna is short with words, we can make a decision quickly enough.

>>4742246
+1 for whatever this nigger votes for now.

>>4742173
Changing from
>>4742222
To
>>4742246

>>4742260
I'd prefer you critique me though so we can patch any holes in plans

>>4742262
i was going to but you already fixed it.
Anything else if better after we ask karna and get more info from the allies, we can't send our new assassin without that info

>>4742259
A+ agility actually for Chiyome

https://youtu.be/6E7ZGCfruaw

What are the odds that Manaka just decided to summon Enkidu Alter for her own Anti-Gil weapon?
Could she be working together with Ishtar?
Ishtar would find Enkidu fucked by grail mud hilarious I think.

>>4742262
Does Mordred's team have enough firepower to still attack Orochi, if Alcides left them?

>>4742259
Yes, Chiyome needs to be our eyes and ears in the forest. We still don't know what's up with Merlin's group or Fafnir. We can CS teleport Chiyome if we go after Illya ourselves and end up needing ninja bullshit.

>>4742262
I'm here for you, my nigga.

>>4742267
Hadn't considered it was both, but based accelerationist option if so.

Singularity F will soon be completely unavoidable

>>4742268
What was the full list?

EMIYA, Mordred, Morgan, Sasaki, Medusa and I feel like I'm forgetting others

Honestly Medusa has the potential to at least hold off Orochi alone with clever use of Three Faces

>>4742267
If Manaka can pull anything she wants out of the Grail, why would she limit herself on the 4th War Servants up till now?
What would Ishtar have to gain by this?

>>4742268
They don't have enough firepower to defeat him, but they can at least cleave through his Servants and disrupt whatever he's doing.

>>4742271
Billy and touko went with mordred's group i think.

>>4742271
Ciel is the only one you forgot.

>>4742274
Thats right

>>4742274
Oh, right. They chose to go there. Lugh too.

We could also be overthinking Vortigern, Sumanai might just have Apocrypha memories and Armour of Fafnir does reduce damage. I checked her mats and her sword has no anti dragon properties that would help against AoF.

But safer to assume it is Vortigern as he grows stronger every time he eats a holy sword. Mordred's Charisma is actually really important here as it stops Vortigern's despair effects from crippling the party.

>>4742275
Touko, Lugh and Billy

Yeah, so the Orochi squad is still good enough to hold the line, may even delete a few of his servants. they should push on, if he gets a breather he'll do something worse yet again as WhatIs is very good at continuing to have antagonists rise to the power of autism planning

>>4742279
Yeah, but Mordred said they are fighting Man in Black Armor AND Siegfried.

>>4742271
It would be funny if we're planning our next step and fucking Chaldea materializes from a different worldline desu. Even if its unrealistic.

>>4742279
Siegfried and the Black Knight are different people. Armour of Fafnir isn't an aura, is it?

And yes, while I expected ally buffs instead of countering a despair aura, Mordred being explicitly in command was not an accident.

>Specialized in purification, cleansing evil, healing others, breaking curses and banishing demons and evil spirits, Chiyome is capable of incredible acts of witchcraft with anti-evil attributes. Sealing charms, barriers, and even calling upon divine blessings to aid her and her allies. all of this is possible for her. Also, any sort of poison, no matter how deadly or fast, is rendered unable to harm her, and she can imbue this ability on another.

Fuck you Hydra Poison, fuck you Manaka's grailaids. Chiyome should be good to yoink her back and healtank through even a hydra arrow as Alcides couldn't just explode her once she has Ilya. With C strength she could literally just pick up Leys with Ilya in tow.

>>4742284
>>4742285
My bad, SPEEDREAD

>>4742286
Also Chiyome can Bless Karna to protect him from Hydra poison, and he can keep Alcides locked down in a very kino Archery contest that destroys the city

>>4742286
AND we would have been royally fucked up if we'd dived into SAlter without cursecondoms.

>>4742272
>limit herself
She's treating things like it's all a game. We know she can summon whatever she likes thanks to Tesla and Baz.
Here's my theory.
>We take Salter and DUDE
>Manaka seething decides to get some revenge on us.
>Summons Enkidu
>Ishtar is summoned into Illya
>Manaka uses her grail connection to Illya to contact Ishtar, offers to give her her power back if she becomes an ally and makes Alcides stab EMIYA, the Archer who could intercept their escape.
>Ishtar, being a dweeb, accepts and gets her Divine powers back.

>>4742289
oh yeah, i wonder what would have happened, would we have tried to rape her?

>>4742290
Is it even Ishtar? I thought the thing in SF was just a Curse real Ishtar left on the Texture to fuck up Gil and Enkidu if they both exist.

Morgan should recognise Vortigern, so I'd imagine as we speak through the sticker Morgan will hear and chime in, right?

Did Morgan summon him..?

Why didn't she point it out already?

Or is this one of those rare anime characters that actually wears his full face helmet. But Morgan should recognise his armour too?

>>4742290
A plausible theory. I have no points against it.

>>4742292
Do you think it would say no to getting full Ishtar power?

>>4742292
Chiyome accidentally deletes Ishtar mid rescue lmao

Don't want to quote something wrong, but as far as I can find, Vortigern looks like this.

"Vortigern is a dark figure whose armor has become black, having become a hole in the world."

>>4742297
N

>>4742293
Did Morgan ever see DRAGONCHAD Vortigern?
After losing his power he's just a senile old fuck.

>>4742291
I'm glad we'll never find out.

>>4742293
If he was summoned, it was through his dragon connection, like Siegfried. I bet he wears his helmet. Don't know why Morgan didn't say anything.

>>4742299
He's hr uncle, she's older than Artoria and is Uther's legitimate daughter. She must know what he looks like.

>>4742289
Us telling Angra to shut the fuck up was very based.
>>4742291
The CGI dragon's defenseless anus should have been ours.

>>4742301
Well shit, maybe he really is wearing his black stained armor and helmet?
And Morgan doesn't know what that looks like?
I thought the dragon powerup was very temporary so only Arturia or Gawain should probably recognise him.

JETS absolutely fucks Vortigern btw.

Cursed Sword with anti dragon properties. The only trait bonus he doesn't trigger is the anti-good one as Vortigern would likely be Lawful Evil.

If he respawns we have a job for him, bait him over to Vortigern if he can't be de-niggered

>>4742305
I'm gonna hope so, I don't want to have to turn Morgan into a lawn statue too.

>>4742307
UNRIVALLEDchads
Our time is now.

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>>4742310
ENTER

>>4742307
I doubt Manaka will send him to zerg rush us. JETS will remain useless, it seems.

And if that's Vortigern and Morgan can be trusted heh, she should be able to help tremendously in dealing with him.

>>4742309
Morgan will fall into line now her
Niece?
Is the Fairy Queen.

>>4742305
I am pretty sure Vortigern can just turn into a dragon whenever. Even the Picts were aliens. Mordred says that "Describing it in terms of your era, they were like something that would be in a sci-fi movie, you know?" and Garden places them on the same terms as dragons and succubus. King of Picts is likened to "cursed cat of Britain" who is prob Cath Palug.

Vortigern turning into a dragon is just not THAT big a deal in that era I guess.

>>4742312
You know, if we hadn't curbstomped them, Manaka's alters probably would have helped us against Orochi and JETS would have had his chance to shine. She doesn't want him to win either.

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>>4742315
Hadrian did nothing wrong

>>4742313
Mordred is smart enough to tell EMIYA to switch ti non-holy affinity anti-dragon swords, right? Instinct A gives temporary higher than room temp iq?

We're having Sakura vore Angry Umu, right?
Gotta prevent Manaka from being able to finish her age 13 and up apocalypse jigsaw puzzle.

>>4742321
There's nothing else worth having her around for.


EMIYA should be raining down Gram copies against Vortigern, it's probably his best bet as it's somehow tracible despite its equals or inferiors somehow not being so.

>>4742319
Instict probably wouldn't tell her that's an anti-holy dragonfag, but she should make the right call now that she knows.

>>4742321
Angry Umu is Nero? Then yes, if we can help it.

>>4742325
that's what I'm hoping, I don't want to have to re-edit the autismwall again for something minor. nothing but despair happens offscreen anyway, I don't expect any enemies to die without our direct commands as without Shinji's observation they don't have full protagonist authority.

this must be how Zelretch feels

>>4742324
>There's nothing else worth having her around for.
I hope you're talking about Nero. Them's fighing words otherwise, sir.

>>4742325
It didn't tell Saber in life, did it?

>>4742326
Zelretch also Isekai'd Ayaka into SF iirc. Another similarity between us.

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>>4742329
Yes, Nero

>>4742330
She just hopechadded through his despair aura and Rhongobongo'd him in the heart

>>4742326
They're doing fine so far. Nothing would have gone wrong if we hadn't nabbed Manaka's favorite toy. We could have gone after the Dragon or Merlin's group instead.

>>4742334
Nothing wrong per say, just no real victories to speak of, only offscreen despair

>>4742334
Leaving Deermud "Guerilla Warfare" Ua Duibhne in the forest alone. lmao.

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How familiar is everyone with Nero's new wife? After the first one was falcon punched in her pregnant gut for interrupting Nero's sportsball games with nagging or something?

>>4742337
It has been just a few minutes. They didn't have the advantage of perfect information and invisible dragon ambush, and they're storming a prepared position. Give them a break.

>>4742338
They were just about to engage Merlin's group. People were more worried that the alters would get killed before we could catch them. Getting Chiyome was the only unambiguously positive thing of this detour.

>>4742339
Nero was such a madlad.

Can someone post a summary of the YHVH Walkthrough btw

>>4742339
Yeah Nero is cool
World first populist, elites hate him

>>4742340
>Getting Chiyome was the only unambiguously positive thing of this detour.

Saber Fairy.

>>4742340
I'm disappoint Wada went with dindu nuffin instead of based hedonist for the people empress. female Nero I don't even mind, I like the design more than I would more historically accurate fat troon discord mod with a laurel wreath on

>>4742341
>"However, I can at least answer that a path of true happiness for all those that you hold dear does exist, but you must act quickly. You must not allow yourself to be distracted by the actions of your allies who have been twisted to serve Manaka with exception to Medusa, who is still clinging on to the last remnants of her previous self, upon saving her. You must go on to defeat the forces of Yamata-no-Orochi, as well as those who oppose him. Then, before your final confrontation with Manaka Sajyou, you must discover a way to reverse the effects of the curses of the mud of the Holy Grail upon Heroic Spirits, from there, you'll know what to do. That's what I will reveal to you."

Gotchu senpai

>>4742343
Probably caused Manaka to freak, there was a downside.

Already over 100 posts. How can /qst/ even compete?

Between Medusa, Chiyome and Shuten, I feel like we deserve a Snakecharmer skill.

>>4742345
If Manaka was the one who took Illya, does she also count as someone we should not be distracted by? He did not say "Altered", he said "twisted to serve", technically, which encompasses more possibilities.

>>4742344
>dindu nuffin
Thats true historical part
Never trust patricians to be honest about their betters

>>4742186
Excellent work, drawfag-san.

>>4742346
The CHADS Of /qst/.

>>4742186
Wow. you actually listened to my request?
You have my gratitude drawfag man.

So are we contracting with Fairy Saber? How long does it take to do?

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>>4742347
bring me, Vrita

>>4742348
I don't think she counts and defeating Orochi without Alcides will be much tougher.

>>4742353
She can maybe sustain herself, being a Fairy Queen and all, but I'd say Sakura otherwise. Spamming her fairy Excaliblasts will be costly

>>4742353
We probably want to contract her to Sakura. We need all our magical energy to use on Truth shit, but Sakura is sitting on assloads of magical energy and doing nothing with it.

>>4742356
Tiamat gets to adopt a child of 3 of her higher favour affinities

I wish we could siphon magical energy from Sakura's Tiamat cores.

>>4742358
breast milk is a bodily fluid, therefore it contains mana

>>4742347
Seriously does QM have a snakegirl fetish?
Who are we missing?
Ibuki and Vrita?

>>4742359
Not even a meme if magi can sell magical energy charged semen, blood and hair to the Association.

>>4742360
The update where Shuten turned Divine was just before Ibuki was released, I recon if it happened after the fact it would have been her rather than Dynamax Shuten.

>>4742360
I'm surprised he started posting Suzuka when gyaru was used to bait the drawfag. He could have continued the trend of snekpussy

>>4742360
Can we turn the defeated Orochi into Ibuki?

>>4742362
Suzuka is based.

>>4742358
We already know Sakura is dt mana transfer, we can siphon at any time.

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>>4742363
given enough autism planning, yes

>>4742364
hai hai!

>>4742359
How does she react if we just ask to drink her breast milk right now?
Just wondering, haha.

>>4742368
just theoretically of course, we can't ask Medea as she also uses our mana haha

>>4742370
Food for thought: Medea thought the energy from a Holy Grail would be enough for her to incarnate. Sakura has access to seven times as much. haha

If we are running out of mana, then what if we use truth to give us a bigger/infinite storage space?

Do we have a breast size rankings of all the girls yet?

Since the topic is mana, how do you interpret the line that " That heart is made of the concept of dragons. The amount of magic is comparable to the earth’s heat. " How much magical energy is that? Re:Artoria's dragon core, and probably also Tiamat's cores.

>>4742375
A shitload. There's a reason bathing in dragon blood was among the first plans commonly agreed on for Isekai Shinji, along with the all-fiction reality marble.

>>4742372
Well, she is a Mother Goddess, so it's not strange that life should spring forth from her bountiful chest. haha

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If WhatIs really did want to bring in Suzuka as the gyaru it would also be a good time for the final of the three great monsters to appear

>>4742380
RIP Cucked Sutoku, not Great Monster.

>>4742381
Why did they cuck him out of the big 3 in typemoon? Did they use Douman for that character archetype or something and call it a day?

>>4742380
NTR time?

>>4742383
That is Suzuka's thing yes

>>4742382
Actually, Otakemaru, Tamamo, Shuten is the original, older trio IRL too. Sutoku replacing Otake is a relatively newer version of the trio, so its not like its not faithful, its just RIP Sutoku.

>>4742385
ENTER JIMMU when?

It's lancelot, let's kill him again.

>>4742387
Lancelot ga Shinda!

>>4742384
True JK enjo kosai

>>4742382
Also, I don't think we've ever seen a Tengu in nasu, while Oni are everywhere so its probably easier. Tengu are something weird tho, with Pepe talking about falling to Tengu-do if he fucks up Shugendo.

>>4742391
Didn't we recently get a tengu waifu?

>>4742391
Ushiwakamaru?

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>>4742391
Sushi's teacher exists

>>4742390
slept with Oketamaru for 3 years to "weaken his skin" and her husband knew lmao. what a cuck

>>4742391
Tengu-do is basically if you seek the further attainments of Shugendo for supernatural power instead of actually seeking Enlightenment, you can become a Tengu and fall outside reincarnation, never achieving Nirvana forever, apparently.

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So we giving Saber Fairy to Sakura? Seems alright.
I'd say Shirou, but I don't think he couldn't handle the drain of 2 Artorias.

>>4742394
I am drawing a blank on who that is. fuck
>>4742393
As far as I know she was just trained by Tengu, and wants to cosplay Tengu without actually being one.

>They taught combat to the young Ushiwakamaru, and enabled her to learn the innermost secrets of war strategy: the Six Secret Teachings and the Three Strategies of Huang Shigong... entirely against their will.

>Ushiwakamaru just seduced their daughter one day to sneak a look at the secrets, causing the fearsome mentor to try to kill her in their rage.

Another rapist dog, Cu would be proud that not having a benis didn't stop Sushi trying to knot women

>>4742397
https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Kiichi_Hougen

>>4742394
>Assassin with Territory Creation B+ and Magic Resistance EX
Wat.

>>4742396
imagine having to feed all these gluttonous beasts in one household.

>>4742400
and EX Mana and a plethora of high end magic

>>4742394
You think showing her Big Makiri Wallet on the first meeting will work?

>>4742398
Based Lesbian.

We're waiting to find out if anything is wrong with Sakura before telling her to contract Saber Fairy, or just assuming?

>>4742404
Sushi becomes more sexual every day.

>>4742403
She'll expect some pretty expensive compensation if we tip the hand right away. I'd love to see her face when she tries using her Mystic Eyes on Shinji and he just smacks her

>>4742406
Yes

>>4742173
>Have your allies rendezvous with you instead while you work on restoring Iskandar.

What's Orochi doing right now?

Suzuka can freely manipulate and levitate her own possessions right?
What happens if we summon her and gift her an entire city?

>>4742408
ushi a cutie

>>4742409
>*angry snek noises*
I bet.

>>4742410
Our company's new Headquarters. Floating city by means of Oni fox, powered by our dragon daughter.

>>4742412
We haven't disrupted his plans. His servants are holding the line. He has to be miffed we stole his assassin, but he's not seething yet.

>>4742413
Just get Semiramis

>>4742173
Support. >>4742246

>>4742415
We cucked his bloodline curse and stole his Assassin AGAIN.

>>4742391
>Tengus are a species of Elementals affiliated with parts of nature, such as mountains, skies, wind, or fire. They're very different from Divine Spirits, but if anything, they're closer to Divine Spirit than to humans. Although they normally don't interact with humans, that's not a hard rule, as shown by the examples of Ushiwakamaru and the Kyouhachiryuu disciples.

>They have a clear precedent of coming in contact with humans and granting them something. They granted knowledge, techniques, Mystery, and secret arts... but that's not the only thing they can grant.

>If you do something that offends them, you'll be literally sent to hell.

>For a Tengu as grand as the Sōjōbō of Mt. Kurama can effortlessly open the gates of hell.

>>4742419
I see, so Elementals. Japanese faeries basically.

You guys realize this is most likely just Lancelot and not Votigem. Why not just ask if Morgan recognizes him. I don't think we have enough info to guess. Don't just throw out guesses without enough info. Manaka so far hasn't shown the ability to summon anything new.

>>4742422
How does Lancelot reduce damage from Mordred's np?

>>4742422
Yeah. Lancelot has his weird distortion aura. Even Arturia didn't recognize him until the end of the 4th grail War.

>>4742419
I wonder if we could use Truth to just portal out of hell.
Tengu seethe.

>>4742422
Its Rider Vorti

>>4742422
Why would it be related to Manaka and not Orochi?

>>4742423
If it was Vortigem then Mordred and Morgan would likely know. The reason why people can't recognize Lancelot is For Someone's Glory his armour which blocks recognition. Vortigem wouldn't have anything like that.

>>4742422
>You guys realize this is most likely just Lancelot and not Votigem
Why? Vortigern fits the data infinitely better. And we already have a real Lancelot.
>Why not just ask if Morgan recognizes him
She would have said something, she's there and she's trying to earn Mordred's favor
>Don't just throw out guesses without enough info
We've guessed servants from less. It's what we always do.
>Manaka so far hasn't shown the ability to summon anything new.
Tesla, whoever she put into Bazett's head. Manaka could have taken control of Illya through her grail connection without summoning Ishtar, it changes little in the end.

>>4742422
>literally made a Tesla pseudo and did something fucky to Baz.
She can summon Servants.
Also Vorti is probably Orochi's

>>4742429
Mordred is 8? years old at the time of her death. She likely never met Vortigern.

Lancelot has no way to weaken a Holy Sword, Vortigern feeds on them

>>4742429
Vorti is a living black hole who only Arturia and Gawain would recognize in this form.

>>4742432
Morgan was there and she doesn't recognize him? Plus he may grow based on holy swords but did Mordred say he got more powerful or just resisted it? He's supposed to get a darker Aura as he powers up.

>>4742437
That was alive full dragon Vortigern. Wouldnt be surprised if Servant Vorti is nerfed.

>>4742434
I wonder if Faetoria has enough residual memories to confirm Vortigern's identity. It was a pretty significant moment in Artoria's life.

>>4742437
If you read up I actually asked this, but Vortigern specifically stained himself with niggeritis after consuming the blood of Albion and became an inhuman monster.

Would you recognise LAlter as the same person if you were only given an image of vanilla Saber Artoria as something to go off? I am always suspicious of Morgan though.

Again, how does Lancelot reduce Holy Sword effectiveness?

>>4742437
Caliburn Camlann is a sword of paradoxes in addition to a Holy Sword right?
It's possible that the paradox attribute fucked him up a bit.

Orochi is less successful Devil Forgemaster of you think about it

Does Faetoria still have a wish to rule?
She won't go full Morgan right?

>>4742451
We'll have to ask. Morgan was cucked out of her rightful throne remember, which caused her to seethe quite a bit

>Due to the fact that beings from the Age of Gods could not manifest in the modern world, she possessed the Einzbern homunculus Fillia, using her as a "sacrificial shrine maiden" and overwriting her.
>overwriting her
Illya will be fine after Chiyome purges curse-Ishtar, right bros?

Right?

>>4742454
There's a reason my first post in this thread is what it was. With Chiyome's help, probably

>>4742455
Dunno, usually "overwrite" means "erase previous data". Sounds even worse than the typical pseudo. I'm dreading the chance we'll be left with a blank Illya after the purge.

>>4742451
Well she's a week old, and she was having an identity crisis, so I suppose we could try to help guide her towards a certain path or goal.
She the Fairy Queen now right? Are there any fairies left?

>>4742454
No, you would need to access the Root to get records of Illya and put them back in their place. WhatIsAQM already posted art of Fillia btw

>>4742458
That'd be worse than a dead end. I want one ending in which Ilya lives dammit.

>>4742455
At least Gil, EMIYA and Shirou can finally all agree on something.
FUCK ISHTAR.
>>4742453
I think she'll be fine, Mordred is the older sister anyway.

>>4742459
Most are in Avalon.
But uh
Arcueid counts.
Morgan is also a fairy.

>>4742461
same

>>4742461
>That'd be worse than a dead end
Exactly. We've escaped a lot of them already. I would hate it but I wouldn't be surprised if carelessness finally got us.

>>4742459
Take over the Reverse, ez. Then we can hash out trade deals between Camelot 2.0 ver. Mordred and Reverse 2.0 ver. S.Fairy.

>>4742461
If it happens its Time Travel time. Quantum Time Locks are roughly per 100 years, and even then enough energy can change them. Time to steal Atlas Spiritron tech and enslave Goetia for resources.

>The Ainsworth family can brainwash others to become like dolls. Illyasviel von Einzbern is able to resist it due to her mental strength, and she completely evades it by taking refuge in the empty area Chloe von Einzbern previously inhabited when they were two personalities in one body.

Ilya might be mentally stronger than you think despite her being a Homunculus. I'd imagine it would be a timer based thing though.

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So did mommy Tiamat protect Sakura? or maybe her Nulification?

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>Need to take care of something and leave for a few hours
>170 new posts.
Ok then.

>>4742470
I think nigger's vote was the most popular.

>>4742470
As if you didn't expect that after YET ANOTHER clusterfuck you dropped on our laps.

>>4742470
we need to headpat abby more

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>>4742470

>>4742470
*the other QMs will remember it*

>>4742186
Very nice

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>>4742477
top kek

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>3 of the over 2000 posts

And fuck, I just realised Sasaki has a sticker too. Merlin is listening in on our comms.

>>4742479
Joffrey quest failed at reaching thread 2 after a few days because Trick QM had female problems. For once I'm glad WhatIs doesn't give time to no hoes unless they are 2D.

>>4742481
We can always ask Tamamo to fudge his receiver and feed him a false command and test the plant by Merlin theory. He wouldn't even need to though with his Clairvoyance I imagine.

>>4742481
I don't know if Merlin is genuinely trying to kill off Shinji's faction or if he is just testing us. I think Merlin still has a place in his heart for Shinji-chan and is trying to make us desperate enough to transform into her. That pervert.

>>4742484
I am assuming he knows everything that happens but can't read thoughts. Merlin will know if we ask Tamamo that, but compromised comms means we'll have more difficulty setting up the garden gnome plan.

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>>4742246
So was this the latest version of the plan?

>>4742491
Seems so

>>4742246
+1 properly

>>4742491
Now my paranoia is saying its Rizo-Waal or Gransung. A DAA knight dude

>>4742491
Yeah.

Cute vampire. Hope Satsuki eats her.

>>4742493
Mordred...should know how Rizo looks right? Hes also a Black Knight.

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>>4742493
Interesting.
>>4742494
Why must you be so mean to the dumb yandere vampire?

>>4742497
Alt did well on the popularity poll, didnt she?

>>4742498
She did, oddly enough.
Guess that yandere charm shone through after all.

>>4742497
Can you really be count yandere if you didnt show up to help your crush in the moment of need? Or at least stab some of his hussy orbiters amids it?

>>4742499
I wouldn't have minded becoming a DA per se, its just the whole being enslaved thing is not cool.

>>4742499
Is Alt going to come back for Shinji? Seems pretty sad that she ran away as soon as Sakura ate Nrvnqsr.

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>>4742497
I'd be fine with her joining us... until she got to Sacchin that is.
Maybe if she apologizes.

>>4742497
I want the yandere vampire to join the harem we don't have enough lolis in the harem.

>>4742503
If you want power go outer god

>>4742502
She does have duties she needs to attend to, so in the end she settled for just giving you an additional Servant and powerful catalyst in hopes that it would allow you to survive the war.
You gave that opportunity to Mordred though.
>>4742503
God's gonna freak!
>>4742504
It depends on how interested she is after reading the after-report of the war.

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>>4742507
...

>>4742507
True

>>4742510
Bro, we can be an ambassador between Outer Gods and God. The time of reconciliation/cosmic politics has come.

>>4742510
only come talk to me when you have less heads.

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>>4742511
>>4742512

>>4742510
One more god rejected

>>4742514
Trust me, bro. Totally.

Why does being a god have to come with the side effect of being a humongous asshole?
Is it the detatchment from humanity?

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>>4742517
Inability to feel empathy, detachment from humanity, UNLIMITED POWER.
But at the same time, there are some gods/titans who are total bros to humans.

>>4742517
Be the change you want to see

>>4742518
Basically its not a god thing. Humans who are suddenly retardedly powerful and on a different plane would probably also go mad with power and shuck off restraint, I feel like. Its just some humans wouldnt, just a lot.

>>4742520
i would just relax and eat chocolate for a millennia, then think of how to help people.

Do we even know what Rizo-Waal can do? My paranoia about him being the black knight has been activated.

>>4742499
I do not trust Altrouge's current position in the poll. She was nowhere near as high in the first count you did. Her numbers jumped after the poll was linked again in a next thread.

>>4742509
>after-report of the war
Bold of you to assume we will make it to the end of the war with the way you shake things up

>>4742525
He was Mordred's Master. How could she not recognize him?

>>4742526
I voted for her in the first poll before Sacchin was added.

>>4742525
Time magic. Only very few things can kill him

>>4742528
We don't know he showed himself to her. Its technically possible Mordred has never seen him in armor.

>>4742529
She had some votes, yes. She just wasn't that high.

>>4742532
They went together to fight Touko. I'd assume he wouldn't underestimate Shishou like that.

Damn, I need to start waking up earlier.
Keeping up with you goons is near impossible.

>>4742535
>He hasn't synchronised his sleeping schedule to this Quest
ngmi

>>4742536
>Imagine having a sleep schedule
Lmao.

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>>4742528
Blindred, Knight of not being very Observant.

>>4742536
>he sleeps more than 3 hours
haha

>>4742535
Bro just have a sleeping cycle where you push one hour ahead each day.

>>4742538
Her Insticts should be screaming.

And that's an insult to our King's honor!

>>4742538
Its totally Rizo-Waal isn't it.

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>>4742548
This would require neither Touko or Mordred recognizing him.

>>4742551
And also, Altrouge sending him to help Orochi.

>>4742552
Strout is a nice guy and a simp who hunt hussies who orbit his mistress love interests! On his own initiative!

>>4742551
What was the Very Bad Thing that would have happened if we messed up in Salter's inner world?

At least I figured out why Aylesburi ritual is in Aylesbury. From Garden.

"That's why....yes. Should someone ever think of filling this planet with ether once again, they would set up their workshop on this island without a doubt. This is the last scar of the age of gods, and it could act as a pivot for flipping over the world."

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>>4742556

>>4742559
No demi servant?

>>4742558
Looks like we'll need to pay that place a visit to bring the Age of Gods back.

And make sure they don't fuck up this world like they fucked up Extra.

>>4742562
We have to go there anyway. DAAs want to use it to resurrect Dark Six. Maybe making a Crimson Moon based Order?

>>4742566
Yeah, that's the ritual that goes wrong in Extra and drains the world's mana. Plenty of reasons to pay them a visit.

Remember how Requiem's world should be a blown out hellscape from all the Servants going nuts? Apparently it is, and they use disguised drones and never go out of the city to maintain an illusion of normality, but the world is basically called a "wasteland" and "hell". The planet being a "shell".

>>4742571
OK so why hasn't Gaia called down the Types to purge them all?

>>4742578
Well, why would it? It only calls them when they start to live on her corpse. A destroyed or blown out Planet still counts. It's only like the top Texture being wrecked. The Reverse and the Inner Sea of the Star should be still extant and fine.

The answer is "Textures, Son!"

>>4742578
Sleepy

>>4742578
She's fucking dead apparently.

>>4742584
Yeah, but that means that she should send out her "Fucking kill everyone" SOS signal to the rest of the solar system.

Basically it said these quotes, for example.

"Yes. There was. A big war. History's biggest war that swallowed every living creature on this planet. Every nation, person, Heroic Spirit that had been summoned weren't safe. It was that big of a war. That's why our planet was turned into this. Voyager, the beautiful globe that you knew... what remains is just a shell."

"Yes, drone. Flying unmanned weapons. Machines that make a judgement about the battle conditions and attack the opponent. The last war was a battle between drones. At the height of the fighting, it's estimated there was more than ten thousand drones to one solider. Drones from tiny bugs to the size of a passenger plane, they flew above the battlefield semi-autonomously. There weren't just airborne drones. Excavation drones to infiltrate underground installations, underwater drones, and other unusual types were developed. There were even suicide bombing attack submarines that disguised themselves as dolphins or whales. During the war, any approaching fish silhouette must have been attacked out of fear."

"This track is fine, Voyager. This railroad connected to Mosaic City is within the city's bounded field, so its well protected. However... outside Mosaic City is hell."

"For the city to function, a minimal number of single function drones are allowed. For example, they measure the pollution levels of places humans can't reach or act as surveillance cameras with very limited operating space. They're practically like old world radio controlled machines that require an operator. If it's possible to substitute with magecraft, we use that instead. Machines that come into contact with people are registered with the relevant authorities and cleverly camouflaged to assuage public sentiment. "

" Yes, none of our generation feels the disasters that are outside. We aren't conscious of it in our daily life. That's how peaceful Mosaic City... was. "
"Today, countless drones are hidden, hibernating in the wastelands. They have semi-indefinite lifespan. If a plane were to fly over, a drone that detects it would wake up and shoot it down."

It was some shit, apparently.

Hey boys.
Where's Giselle?
If she was with Illya she could probably give us a good idea on what's going on with her since she knows her way better than Satsuki does.

>>4742585
Yes but no.

>>4742585
She should send it about Manaka if we are talking pragmatic

>>4742585
I have two guesses, or maybe more. Maybe she did send out the signal, they're just slow. Maybe some HS or technology makes them Land of Steel tier and they just kill them too. Maybe Gaia died so fast she didnt have opportunity to do it.

Why didn't it kill everyone in Ainsworth timeline with TYPES yet?