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You are Lieren. A great man who came from nothing to spread prosperity and hope across the lands. Your sole ambition a wholly selfless endeavor to banish the plagues of famine, misrule, and tyranny from the lives of your kinfolk. To ensure an end of needless suffering and pointless cruelties. This simple desire has led you upon a journey across the vastness of the Yan Kingdom, serving a foul lord while plotting his demise, executing numerous tyrants and monsters for their wicked deeds, and gathering numerous skilled and virtuous allies, sometimes from the strangest of origins.

Along this great road you have walked, you have birthed a new philosophy into the world. The Journey, based on your world view and observations of the world. Alongside this new school of wisdom, many other more tangible innovations have come to Shangrala. Improvements to farming and irrigation, better techniques of metallurgy and medicine, and perhaps standing above all other creations, firearms. Joined by courageous friends and loyal followers, you waged war upon the tyrants that had leeched wealth and lives from the lands of the Yan kingdom for untold generation.

Experiencing many a strange happening during the conflict, such as your trek and eventual conquering of the Bone Devouring Woods, your meeting and befriending of the wild Vishnu tribes who lived beneath those dreadful and titanic trees, and your duel against the Corpse puppeteer and his Unseen and Inhuman master far beneath the storied forest, and the monstrous students you took on after the defeat of the Tigermen . And perhaps most strange of all, your meeting with the living Ship, Kanzeon, who had endured untold eons in stygian solitude, even further beneath the surface of Shangrala.

Though many glorious victories were won, you also experienced the personal tragedy of losing a close friend. Small Chen, one of your personal guards, died to give his life to save Lord Dai Niu, an ally who has sacrificed his honor and face without hesitation by your command.

Upon the eve of the near year long war's end, after defeating and stealing the memories of one of the few remaining Yan Generals, you cultivated a mere fraction of true enlightenment before bravely undertaking a final hunt alone. A hunt to ensure the captives of the Yan tyrants and their innocent subjects would be spared from the monstrous atrocity they had intended to commit.

Saving the genius of the scholar Cao Yunru from suicide. The man who had been deceived into giving the Ya nking the tools required for his yet unperpetrated genocide of his own loyal citizens, pledged his loyalty to your cause and undertook the duty of righting his grave mistake and undoing his folly of giving tyrants gunpowder, by sabotaging the caches of the substance intended to consume the capital and all who lived within it in a storm of fire and death.

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>>4737591

Having then infiltrated the Celestial Incarnation Palace, the black heart of the corruption that had long bedeviled and tormented the people of the Yan Kingdom, you saved many victims of the predations of the Yan Dynasty and their court, and gave merciful death to those too wounded or far gone to survive to see the coming dawn of a new era.

One by one, you hunted and brought justified death and judgement to the six abominable princes of Yan. The man with appetite to defile and consume the flesh of maidens, the psychotic who hunted men like animals, the lack wit drunkard, the lunatic painter who used human lives as his pigment, the incestuous and martially skilled twin princes all fell to your hand, as their evil was finally purged from the world.

However, you were denied your final prize, Lord Yan himself, Yan Weizha, the final bloated boil of the Yan Dynasty to rule the land and abuse its people. For, the true source of all of the Yan Kingdoms suffering and degeneration had abandoned the king as you approached.

The concubine Huli Jing. An ancient malevolence that had long hid beneath the stolen skin of beautiful maidens, the beguiler of dynasties, the corrupting golden fire, the fox devil with nine tails, matron of excess, ruiner of bloodlines and legacy, and the messenger in flames. This evil spirit, was the source of the decadence and sinful ways of the Yan dynasty and the noble lines who served beneath them, and the cause of all prior the dynasties' fall.

Abandoning the Yan who wore her visage and colors as all her other puppets had before, she had twisted Yan Weizha's body into a form more befitting a wretch like himself, mutating him into a barely mobile amorphous blob of blubber and soft fur dotted with drooling, heavy lipped mouths, Huli Jing had stolen your final quarry and denied his uncountable victims the retribution they had deserved.

For she sought a far worthier prize than the bloated king she had long served, a more potent and effective tool to enact her wicked whims and deplorable wiles upon the world. Yourself.

Seeking to corrupt your noble spirit and virtuous mind, to subvert your journey's lesson and render all your labor and struggle meaningless, she met you in a brutal battle.

One that you continue to fight now. The Hellish Concubine, Huli Jing, has proven to be the most dangerous adversary you have yet faced. The living construct of dark emotion, has wounded you more gravely than any other opponent you have faced before.

However the master of the witchfire and sorcerous flames, is not without her weaknesses, and has endured injuries that would have crippled or outright slain a creature of purely material nature.

Having retreated and escaped from the pitched battle momentarily, you have studied the wretched creature and discovered the weaknesses inherent in an existence of a spirit such as herself.
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>>4737592

Devising a cunning scheme, you prepared to launch another and hopefully final attack against the origin of depraved degeneration...
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<Music for the ongoing boss battle: https://youtu.be/wm6vU23R2Qo)

Remaining in the shadows, beneath the branches of the bronze leafed tree you began your assault upon Huli Jing's mind. Throwing and echoing your voice to hide mask your presence and hide your true location, you began to torment the tormenter by attacking the very essences of her being via the only method that could inflict deeper wounds than the words of the Journey itself.

A creature born of pride and indulgence, woven into life through such weak willed desires would of course be vulnerable to such expressions of excess being denied and entirely denounced with the same fervor and faith of which you speak the lessons of your journey.

Already consumed by mindless wrath and disgust inspired by your unshakeable beliefs in the teachings you spread, Huli Jing would easily deceived and tricked by such childish pestering and insults. But this approach was yet most cunning and genius, for the fox spirit was in many ways your equal and in other ways your better. To believe the duel with her should remain solely martial in nature, was a folly most deadly.

Utilizing the acoustics of the garden's architecture, you made your voice carry and fly upon the wind, echoing upon walls and jade encrusted towers alike. Your wounds danced upon the bubbling streams, frolicked in the flowering trees and bushes before completing their flight upon Huli Jing's vulpine ears.

For a moment, her five remaining eyes of amber softened as if the pleasure she felt of hearing you speak of such wanton whims and vile impulse had managed to intoxicate her, despite her purely spiritual nature. Your words became as the most tantilizing and soothing song this ancient being of evil had ever heard. Hope welled in her twisted, inhuman heart blacked by untold eons of unrestrained indulgences of the worst kind.

For this brief serenade, listing all of life's fleeting and ultimately pointless pleasures, passions, treasures and desires, Huli Jing believed the touch of her mind warping flames had at last bested your indomitable will.

And you were most delighted, to see the sheer depth of her fury, as she realized you spoke such foulness to deliver and insult, not only to her lifestyle but to the very core of her being! Venom dripped from your lips, the poison of the unavoidable truth that even the blind could see, fell like a caustic rain upon Huli Jing's treacherous mind. One by one, you denounced each fleeting pleasure, each unfulfilling desire, and every meaningless excess with such vitriol and hatred it felt as if your tongue burned to speak such spiteful words.
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>>4737593

Huli Jing howled to the silent night sky, her shriek joined by the distant sounds of battle, before being drowned by the crackling war of her tri colored flames. Waves of golden brilliance, white fury and pink hued spite roiled from beneath the Devil's gold colored hide, scorching the life from the garden the two you stalked each other within.

The water boiled to steam, the grasses and trees were consumed by a fog so black it made the light appear as morning, specters of long lost souls floundered and stumbled in the burning shroud that poured out of the abominable monstrosity's fur. The natural fog of the world was replaced by the incarnation of her uncontrolled fury and madness.

The healing wounds upon her flesh, began to bleed a new. Black oil and sludge tearing the flesh that had began to stitch her hide back together, flowing and boiling upon her chest and thighs as she continued to scream and rage in tongues long dead or yet unborn!

Wielding the mighty Chendao, stolen from your own hands earlier in the battle, she began to rampage and vent her frustration and mind boiling anger upon the world around her. A pointless show of power and devastation, the fine steel that bears your fallen friend's name and a fraction of his legacy, was used to carve deep trenches into the flame consumed garden's ashen soil. Swinging the weapon with wild abandon, its blade cut through stone and foliage alike, sending sparks and embers to join the burning storm that surrounded its tantruming wielder.

Stomping her feet impetuously, the tail upon your sighed bristled and began to burn with the same scorching brilliance as its eight brothers did upon the end of the spirit's spine. Smothering it against the trunk of the tree that served as your hiding place, you watched on, as The devil began to fire round after round into the darkness, destroying her surroundings and rendering most of the garden and nearby structures to naught but rubble and dust.

She was chasing your voice, too furious to perceive its true source. Lying still and in wait, you continued observing the maddened beast's pique driven rampage as she unleashed increasingly pointless destructions and savagerys upon any object that entered her reach.

"WITLESS DOG! LORD OF ALL SIMPLETONS AND FOOLS! HE WHO TRAVELS AND SPEAKS NOT BUT LIES! WORTHLESS WORM FROM NOTHING. IMPUDENT WRETCH! FRIEND OF BEGGARS AND FODDER! FATHER OF IMBECILES! GUARDIAN OF DUNG! MEEKEST SON OF THE WILDS! TRANSIENT KING! HEAR ME! HEAAAAR ME AND SHOW YOURSELF! SHOOOOOOW YOURSELF!" Huli Jing howled, as her body was completely shrouded by the flames she commanded, her burning cloak turning into a legion of gnashing jaws and gritted teeth as she marched forth, swinging her stolen weapon at the air that surrounded it, twirling it as she searched for the specific shadow that concealed you from her magical sight
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>>4737594

"CEASE THIS CRAVENESS! CEASE THIS COWARDICE! FACE ME, YOUR BETTER IN ALL REGARDS AND FIELDS! FACE ME AND RECIEVE PUNISHMENT! COME OUT AND DIE, SON OF THE ANATHAME!" She continue to shriek and whine impotently, unknowingly nearing ever closer to her perch.

Shifting, you ready yourself to attack. Her neck is exposed, with one well place strike her head may be taken and this centuries long nightmare may at last come to an end.

However, you are not able to resist the impulse to direct one more, hopefully final, insult towards you most hateful and contemptible of enemies.

So, you begin to sing, your chanting song echoing in all corners of the garden, further infuriating the already rage consumed Huli Jing as she began to swing with wilder abandon and further spiteful passion.

"Oh little fox why do you sour,
Scheming fox was this not your hour?
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Lieren's path overturned your home,
Burned your den and golden throne.
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Oh little fox why so grim?
Did you not enjoy your life of sin?
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Prideful fox do you not see?
The mists are mine and show you to me
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Oh little fox you hunt no mouse pure and sweet,
This is a panthers den now and you are but meat.
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This is a mighty hunt don't so say?
A shame it's to late for you the prey."

You chant calmly, serenely, as you stand to your feet and press the twin prince's Daos together at the edge, the wind begins to whip around you. A cool breeze shudders and banishes the sweltering heat summoned forth by the devil you face. A confident grin crosses your lips, as your golden eyes flash in the darkness.

Iron hued hair flying behind your head, you leap from the tree that sheltered you, breaking it in twain as you take to the skies. Pressing down the handles, you call forth the power with the treasures of the last Yan princes, brilliant white energy banishing the gloom of the night and darkness of the smoke that had surrounded you.

The natural fog returns, as Huli Jing turns to face you a moment too late.

"LIEREN!!!!" She shrieks in impotent anger, eyes bulging from her skull as the flames surrounding her recede and wane

"HULI JING!!!!" You below in response, wrists twitching as you begin your attack, lining the glowing sabers parallel with the evil spirit's bulging neck. Hopefully, this shall end this monster's reign upon the material world at last and forever more.
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The moment froze. In a world unimaginable by the mortal minds of the sane and well, a prince of darkness at upon her throne of silver, angrily tapping his fingers both dainty and robust upon its gilded rests. The Courtiers attending the prince of excess had long since fled to the safety of further reaches of her palace of pleasures halls. Beneath his feet, lay the brutalized remains of those too slow witted to sense the danger their liege now presented to them, so consumed by irritation and disgust.
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>>4737596

A plan that had spanned eons. A favored servant upon a defenseless world, poised to overcome the rivals sent by the other three. It had all been turned to ruin in but a night, but the sheer incompetence of her champion. Given all the tools and aid available to succeed, she now stood, a tattered, bloody and most of all disgraced mess of a daemon. Growling, and grinding his alabaster teeth upon the soulstones of fallen Aeldari, She who thirst settled back into his throne and watched in silence.

The battle may yet turn in her favor. However, victory would taste ever so bitter even if his child were to succeeded in taming the wild heart of the hunter.

In the delayed moment, a heroic scene sat before the eyes of a god to its great distaste. An Iron haired man, falling through the air like a living bolt of retribution, cloaked in charred robes of silk dyed azure and plum, coated in torn steel and battered armor with twin blades in hand, crackling with power and fury.

Unseen to the man's own eyes, a great golden light burned within his eyes and surrounded him like a sun's cornea. The fog of his world surrounded him like a mother's loving embrace. His hair, released of its binding, feel to his back in a great flowing mane.

And Unseen to the eyes of the god witnessing this battle and growing ever more annoyed, a shadow danced by the lights of the soul fed flames surrounding it, a voiceless cackle leaving its nonexistent lips as it mocked its unknowing sibling, mirthfully watching the match like a spectator at a martial tournament.
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<Theme for Huli Jing's boss fight against Lieren: https://youtu.be/8nW-IPrzM1g>

Striking decisively, you lash the twin blades forwards, slicing the air in an cross shape as your knees collide with Huli Jing's cut open chest. Black blood sprinkles the air, boiling alongside the pure scarlet water that flowers from your own veins. Your two golden eyes meet the devil's own five amber eyes, fire erupting from socket that contains the remain of the sixth.

The stolen tale seizes and shudders, struggling to escape from its confines at your sides.

The pale light of the moon pierces the fire, the smoke and the fog, shining down upon the two of you like a distant beacon.

A sting pain washes across your fate, by claw or blade, she's marred your visage. But that is meaningless. As the flowing warmth of spilt blood crawls across your cheeks like summer rain, the sabers in your hands meet flesh.

And bite deeply into it, black bile boiling upon their edge as both sink their fangs deeply into Huli Jing's flesh. A flash of golden light accompanies the cut, pouring from the fox demon's wounds as a torrent of sickening sludge flows from her wound.

The edges of the blade reach her spine and halt. Caught by her bone. The devil begins to fall backwards, clawing and grasping for your neck as she descends towards the earth.

Then she stands, stomping the ground to halt her fall. With an enraged howl, she bellows
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>>4737597

"NOT LIKE THIS! I REFUSE TO BE DEFEATED SO IGNOMINIOUSLY!" She screams, despite her throat being torn in half "THIS SHALL BE MY VICTORY WHELP! YOU WILL NOT STEAL AWAY THE REWARD THAT AWAITS ME FOR MY MILLIENUMS OF TOIL! IT SHALL NOT BE!"

Fire begins to flare around her, as she twirls the Chendao. She has reserved a few rounds, despite her earlier rampage.

This fight isn't won yet, but you have dealt a serious blow to the spirit.

What is your sixth move, Lieren?
>Use the dao's as a grip, and flip over Huli Jing's head, attempting to pull her to the ground and finish the cut.
>Let go of the twin blades, kicking off of the devil's chest. And throw the Six fanged spear into her breast
>"Do not fear death, do not hate death...." Stare emotionlessly into her eyes as you pull the daos free and attempt to blind her with them
>Use the stuck blades as leverage, and repeatedly headbutt Huli Jing while repeating the song you sang
>Write in
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>>4737599
>Use the dao's as a grip, and flip over Huli Jing's head, attempting to pull her to the ground and finish the cut.
>Start to chant our teachings about death, emphasise it being inevitable.
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>>4737599
>Use the dao's as a grip, and flip over Huli Jing's head, attempting to pull her to the ground and finish the cut.
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>>4737599
>Use the dao as a grip
>"Do not fear death, do not hate death"

Malal, that cheeky bastard, is probably laughing his ass off.
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>Use the dao's as a grip, and flip over Huli Jing's head, attempting to pull her to the ground and finish the cut.
>Start to chant our teachings about death, emphasise it being inevitable.

I wonder if we can repay the favor to Malal and help him in truly existing again, maybe turning him in a truly benevolent chaos God along the way.
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>>4737693
Malal can never be benevolent, its against the very premise of his being. So no, unforchunately not.
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>>4737599
>Use the dao's as a grip, and flip over Huli Jing's head, attempting to pull her to the ground and finish the cut.

I like the quest
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>>4737599
>>Write in
Furious as she is she has forgotten the most simple of rules, we are to close so she must hold the staff close to the head. This is her doom, for if we kick the lower side of the staff despite her strength we will have sheer leverage from the longer side and make the gun point towards her head the moment she pulls the trigger and even if we fail the shot will miss us. We end her with the weapon we started with, if she falls from it catch the weapon from her loosened grip.

if that don't kill her using one Dao as a step while gripping the other as its embedded and circle her neck with it removing he head entirely

"Do not fear death little fox it comes to all even you
Do not fear death little fox for your is long due
Do not fear death little fox your schemes are through"
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>>4737599
>Use the dao's as a grip, and flip over Huli Jing's head, attempting to pull her to the ground and finish the cut.

"BEGONE EVIL SPIRIT ! WHEREVER ME, MY COMPANIONS OR MY PEOPLE SHALL STAND, EVIL DEFEAT WILL BE INEVITABLE ! AND IN YOUR DESTRUCTION KNOW THIS, THAT THE REST OF YOUR KIN SHALL FACE DOOM SOON ENOUGH AS WELL !"

A booming defiance and declaration of war to Huli jing and all other evil spirits
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>>4737715
Sounds based let's do it
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>>4737599
>Use the dao's as a grip, and flip over Huli Jing's head, attempting to pull her to the ground and finish the cut.
>Start to chant our teachings about death, emphasise it being inevitable.
>Write in
Call upon the souls of the slain. Let them bear witness as retribution is at hand.
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>>4737697
Why not? Hes not born yet, and it's not like the nature of chaos is entirely stagnant. Maybe its wishful thinking, but I'm gonna hold out a little hope that it's maybe possible.
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>7 chapters in
>Lieren is taking a massive steaming shit on a literal prince of chaos
Based Lieren.
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>>4737693
We shouldn't do that. Malal is a fundamentally evil being like the rest of them and the embodiment of "some men just want to watch the world burn"
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>>4737715
>>4737697
Supporting
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>>4737599
Write in:
"These blades avoided your neck, spawn of the underworld,
I will not miss nor wreck my chance two-fold."

>Use the dao's as a grip, and flip over Huli Jing's head, attempting to pull her to the ground and finish the cut.
>Headbutt the demon back into the immaterium.
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>>4737599

>"Do not fear death, do not hate death...." Stare emotionlessly into her eyes as you pull the daos free and attempt to blind her with them
>Maneuver to her back and try to remove the other tails.
Ended up falling sleep before finishing the last two schemes, and when I woke up a new thread appeared.
RIP the 2k dream.
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>>4737599
Supporting this.
>>4737621
Also
>Your wounds danced upon the bubbling streams, frolicked in the flowering trees and bushes before completing their flight upon Huli Jing's vulpine ears.
While I know this is a typo, it sounds like something from Nurgle's domain with all the dancing wounds.
>the pleasure she felt of hearing you speak of such wanton whims and vile impulse had managed to intoxicate her
so daemons get their fix from people talking about the things that embody them? This means a chaos worshiper who is a good orator is the equivalent to a back alley drug dealer for starving daemons.
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>>4737813
And here's the last one.
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>>4737823
Didn't edit the symbol properly.
So a fix.
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>>4737822
It is also funny how the things that Lieren disliked about the six princes were that one was a man who "defiled and consumed the flesh of maidens", another a "psychotic who hunted men like animals", a third a "lunatic painter who used human lives as his pigment" and the other three were a "lack wit drunkard" and the "incestuous and martially skilled twins". Some of these are not like the others although I'm waiting to hear what the guards of the twins have to say about them and Jie I guess allowed tortures to happen in his party.
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>>4737823
>>4737831
Good job. They all look great. We can get the two thousand posts in this thread so look forward to it.
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>>4737847
I would not put much trust in what the guards say, they seemed to be fanatically loyal to them, they might ignore or brush off things that would be less savory.
Now if we could get some honest servants to spill the beans about their dirty secrets, that would be better.
And it for me it read less like the fat drunk ignored torture and more like he activaly encouraged it as entertaiment and music.
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>>4737856
If they are blinded by loyalty Lieren's eyes will see that but I see no reason not to ask the servants. Maybe you're right about Jie but I saw him more as a guy who just said "organize a party for all the nobles and what they want and don't bother me with the details", so he didn't care about what was happening around him so much as long as he was indulging himself.
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>>4737867
Oh, I wasn't saying that they would lie to us, but that the ones that stayed and countinued being loyal wouldn't actually give a thought about any of the twins odd activities or sadism of it existed.
Like for example say they did a petty duel for a made up rule, they would say that they valued honour highly.
Or if said duel was against someone that could barely fight and they did a prolonged and brutal fight just so they could do their perfect and fancy moves, they would say they were expert, unbeatle swordmen.
Or they afterwards would fuck still covered in the blood, they would either ignore it or say they were truly in love with eachother.
I don't know if our truth vison can detect lies if the other person believe it to be true, so unless we find one of the guards that had a bit of a doubt, something hard considering the how one of the virtous we found was so filled with zeal, than the best bet would be a servant.
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>>4737886
Well we can see both the servants and guards(and deal with any surviving or hidden tyrants) when we finish the fight. I had the impression though that Lieren's vision detects more than the existence of lies(since to me virtue is more than the absence of lies) so he could tell if the guards simply disregarded the twins cruelty.
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>>4737898
Fair enough.
And there is no problem being thorough when investigating, given we probably will have to deal with judging a bunch of nobles we simply didn't get to, so just add interviewing the guards and servant in that list.
But that's all after we deal with the bitch in heat anyway.
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>>4737599
>>"Do not fear death, do not hate death...." Stare emotionlessly into her eyes as you pull the daos free and attempt to blind her with them
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>>4737902
>bitch in heat
Hehehe. I wonder if there were any depraved rulers who preferred Huli Jing in her natural form.
Maybe if we finish the fight soon, we might be able to send a message to the armies in the war that the Dynasty is dead and the war is over so you should stop fighting to prevent more deaths in the battles being raged. I highly doubt it but maybe we could try it.
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>>4737923
If the Yan dynasty has any special banner or crown or something like the mandate of heaven, it could add legitimacy to the claim.
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>>4737923
I'd enjoy the old fox bending the knee. If he could be turned, he would be a useful ally but I fear we would have to remove him.

Root and stem, as they say, Root and stem.
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>>4738067
Like what we did with Gao Dayu and her siblings? Now I wonder if Gao's wives that had their tongues cut also survived.
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>>4738025
I meant I was doubting if the message would reach them before the conclusion of the battle. After the battle they were already supposed to go to the capital(as Lieren wrote to them in the letter) to join him anyway.
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>>4738094
Like what we did to the house of Gao. I mean maybe he isn't corrupted but his nephew was a step away from becoming a daemon prince. So it's best we be utterly sure he isn't depraved.

And nah, the records say that his wives were killed by Liewe.
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>>4738102
Really? I don't remember them getting killed. I'll have to re-read the archives then. I only remember meeting them in the throne room of Gao then almost no mention of them afterwards(there was an oath that Dayu made that spoke of her mother I think but not if she was alive or not).
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>>4738112
We found family records to assess how many were alive and how many were dead, and we found like some 60+ kids died of "natural causes and accidents" which Lieren then goes on to say 'At least the wives had the true cause of death listed: killed of orders of Gao Liewe'

The one's in his room, I don't think they ever were mentioned again but about 2-3 years had passed between our inaugeration and murder of Gao. So I doubt they survived.
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>>4738132
I thought that implied the previous wives were killed. He could have been remarrying constantly considering his lifestyle and personality but maybe you're right.
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>>4738138
yeah that's the stated fact, that he was constantly re-marrying and having more children.

I'm saying that I think that those wives we saw were used up before we killed him, so logically it follows that he had them killed like he had the others.
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>>4738101
Well that makes sense.
Even if we wrap up this fight next update, immediatly find evidence and sprint to the battle, I doubt we wpuld reach it in time.
But who knows, maybe the Yan will sense that the whore died and surrender. Not very unlikely though, given that she still has the other 8 tails, so they probably weren't trusted or corrupted enough.
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>>4738149
Not very likely, not unlikely.
Also they could fight even harder if it happens, so better not bank on hypothesys.
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>>4738141
Oh okay. Emperor rest their souls then.
>>4738149
If only we could make a fast moving craft for delivering messages but as previously people have pointed out, a world covered in fog doesn't help with flying around it and we are still away from making cars. At least not fast enough to prevent this battle.
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>>4737599
>Use the dao's as a grip, and flip over Huli Jing's head, attempting to pull her to the ground and finish the cut.
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>>4737599
>>Use the dao's as a grip, and flip over Huli Jing's head, attempting to pull her to the ground and finish the cut.
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>>4737745
And we aren't even in our teens yet
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Are there 3 other champion daemon on this planet that we must purge?

Because that update makes it look like that is the case, or that there are 3 other Planets in the cosmos experiencing the same fate that this planet was meant for?
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>>4737695
>>4737746
Do not doubt the greatness of our lord, for he is the freedom against existence's tyranny.
What better way to spite chaos than to become anathema yourself?
>>4737744
A true believer.
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>>4738695
A leopard cannot change his spots, even if he wishes too with all his heart.

>>4738687
the other champions on this world got their power base and crap crippled. Slannesh had almost won here thanks to Hue jing's machinations. So we need to stamp those out.
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>>4738687
We know there are 3 other civilizations on the planet, so we now know that the Vishnu High King will have a Khornate daemon with him.
And if the tzeentchian daemon lived below the mountains possessing the puppeteer, than it means that between the basque and the shunni, one is nurglite and the other is pure.
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>>4738676
8-9 years old right now so no, not yet.
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>>4737745
Isnt she just an daemonette? Inhabitting a meat puppet?
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>>4738745
Slannesh is seething cause we ruined their plans for the planet, and Malal is having the time of his unlife. It's in the middle of the update, after the break in perspective.
Also Hui Ling seems to be way more powerful than just a daemonette.
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>>4738760
Yeah, but Slaneesh is seething because her plan was ruined. Huli Jing is not as nearly as powerful as an daemon prince. If she was, she wouldnt even have needed to corrupt the leaders, she'd just use chaos powers to enslave him.
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>>4738773
That's not exactly true. Corruption is a prefered tactic to mind control, since mortals doing shit of their own free will frees up a lot of energy and time.

And Yan was about to become a prince.
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>>4738773
I think the original anon said a prince of chaos in the meaning of a chaos god, because that's one of the titles of Slannesh, Prince of Pleasure, and not an actual Daemon Prince, and completly ruining their plans we would be akin to taking a shit on their lap (although Slannesh probably would like the, the sick fucker).
Unless he meant stopping the Yan Kings ascencion to princehood and his transformation into a worthless chaos spawn.
He didn't even get any good mutations, poor guy.
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>>4738745
We don't know anything in-character, but irl there was a chinese pseudo-myth where a woman named Daji was on her way to the capitol only to be possessed by a fox demon and then became the King's favorite concubine. She's a piece of work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daji
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>>4738812
Might be a variant of Ruination of Imperfect Beauty type daemon?

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Ruination_of_Imperfect_Beauty
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>>4738880
It doesn't seem to be, given that it's true form looks nothing alike.
Maybe it's just like it in that it's a special daemon that arouse to tempt a specific planet.
Otherwise it would be a Keeper of Secrets, and there would be no way that one would get it's ass kicked so easily.
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>>4738880
Similar type, at least. Maybe she's a particularly favored one, or one born of the excess present in Yan society for generations. Or maybe she's just a unique daemon that Malal came up with, either are likely, I think.
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>>4738702
> And if the tzeentchian daemon lived below the mountains possessing the puppeteer, than it means that between the basque and the shunni, one is nurglite and the other is pure.
Not even close. A better assumption is that each faction is controlled by one of the gods and the others have agents in place attempting to usurp them.
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>Use the dao's as a grip, and flip over Huli Jing's head, attempting to pull her to the ground and finish the cut.
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>>4739273
Don't squash my hopes that there are some uncorrupted cultures in this world.
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>>4739414
Fear not.

We shall tear them all down and replace them with one that venerates malal.
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>>4739707
Please no I just want to spread prosperity and peace.
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Little fox a hoe
So I burnt it's plans to ash
Now it has no chance

So I drive it mad
boot upon the other paw
It's bad at hunting

Call yourself a fox
Your wit is just like a stone
Beneath mind and sight

Three more Haiku for the Fox
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>>4737813
Support
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>Horus
Oh my first brother
First found and first conqueror
Do guide the young well

>Leman Russ
Oh Second brother
Makers Executioner
King of Wolves and Ice

>Ourselves
Here I am the Third
A scholar and warrior
Born among the mists

>Ferrus Manus
Oh stern fourth Brother
Silver hands and Iron Will
Please do learn to smile

>Fulgrim
Graceful brother fifth
Chaser of true Perfection
Don't forget the now

>Vulkan
So kind brother sixth
Your heart a hearth but beware
The fire still burns all

>Rogal Dorn
Something new for you
dutiful Seventh brother
Don't share needless pain

>Roboute Guilliman
My dear Eighth brother
Please also tend to your heart
Victorious son

>Magnus the Red
Ninth Brother of mine
Your pursuits are so daring
Beware Maker's Wrath

>Sanguinius
My Tenth dear Brother
The Brightest star of us all
Please help rise us all

Some Haiku for our brothers
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Calling the vote now.

Use the dao's as a grip, and flip over Huli Jing's head, attempting to pull her to the ground and finish the cut:13

Start to chant our teachings about death, emphasize it being inevitable.:8
-Attempt to blind huli jing:3

Attempt to kick the Chendao and fire it into Huli Jing's head (+the two other parts of that right in):3

"BEGONE EVIL SPIRIT ! WHEREVER ME, MY COMPANIONS OR MY PEOPLE SHALL STAND, EVIL'S DEFEAT WILL BE INEVITABLE!:1

Call upon the souls of the slain. Let them bear witness as retribution is at hand:1

"These blades avoided your neck, spawn of the underworld,
I will not miss nor wreck my chance two-fold.":1

Maneuver to her back and try to remove the other tails.:2

Headbutt the demon back into the immaterium:1

Total votes 17

Alright, so Lieren will begin to chant about death and its inevitability, as he flips over Huli Jing's head, using the twin Daos as leverage and his weight to attempt to fully sever the devil's foul head from her neck

Writing now

>>4737813
>>4737831
Bang up job as always amigo. I think the second looks especially stylish

>>4739982
>It was a dark day for Chaos when Lieren discovered rapping

Good haikus though.

>>4737697
and I am glad you're enjoying it

>>4740007
They are absolutely beautiful, and sound exactly like what Lieren would say. All so fitting for their subjects as well.

Wonder how they'd react to being gifted such lovely poems.
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>>4740015
>>It was a dark day for Chaos when Lieren discovered rapping

Now I'm patiently awaiting the Lieren X Nujabes collaboration album.
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>>4740021
Don't forget his tracks with the Wu Tang Clan.
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>>4740029
Now you got me thinking of Lieren running a 36 chambers style shaolin temple. Perhaps we'll establish something of the sort when we "retire" as the leader of the planet.
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36 chambers is far too few for all the wonderful things Lieren would have to teach.
I'm thinking we keep it in the tradition of the fictionalized accounts of the Shaolin temple, where anybody can live and train at the monastery so long as they're willing to do their part.
We could divide the broad categories of teaching into sects of however many chambers each would need.
There would be the martial sect, the spiritual sect, the engineering sect, the artistic sect, etc.
A place for anybody who's willing to learn and broaden their horizons, being able to build on those teachings and spread them across the Imperium
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>>4740015
>>4740007
>Lion El'Jonson
Eleventh Brother
The patient knight of secrets
Do not lose yourself

>Perturabo
Oh my Twelfth Brother
The breaker of walls and keeps
Give your spirit rest

>Mortarion
My Thirteenth brother
let go of hate and bile
it will consume you

>Lorgar
My Fourteenth brother
A fellow of faith and word
Let the not cloud you

>Jaghatai Khan
A fifteen brother
You who lives fast and so free
Hold close family

>Konrad Curze
My sixteenth Brother
Your not alone in the night
Brothers by your side

>Angron
Seventeenth Brother
He who hold honour and bonds
Guide your reaching sons

>Corvus Corax
My dear Eighteenth Kin
My fellow liberator
A flock together

>[Data removed]
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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>Alpharius Omegon
So fond of riddles
My Brothers the Twentieth
Or are they truly

Phew ok all done
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>>4740062
Second half is just as good as the first. Absolutely Amazing work!
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>>4740007
>>4740062
Now how would Lieren go about presenting these senryu to his brothers?
Obviously a postcard won't suffice.
Maybe we could make the poems inscriptions on personalized gifts for each them.
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>>4740069
Most likely as an inscription on the bottom of a hand carved jade statuette accompanied by a bottle of Dragon's Spit. Both made by Lieren of course.
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>>4740074
Almost forgot about Dragon's Spit, still mad that we wasted a bottle of the stuff on that jackass.
I will say it's a testament to it's quality that Lieren hasn't written off as shit.
Though that's probably because it's the only thing besides water on this planet that isn't excessively sweet or strong enough to disinfect Nurgle's taint.
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>Horus and Russ first meeting Lieren
Horus: "I like him, reasonable disciplined and understands the importance of the chain of command!"
Russ: "uugh so tranquil and peaceful even their martial displays look like dances"

>Horus and Russ at the party
Horus: "What the fuck are with the Tiger people! Why is someone riding a cow?! ARE THOSE FUCKING GHOSTS DRINKING?!
Russ: *getting blasted on Dragons Spit* "Ive changed my mind this place is pretty cool hang on someone's set up a wrestling ring (A)WOOOOO"
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Struggling to maintain your grip upon the hilt's of the twin Daos against Huli Jing's wild and rabid thrashing. Leaning and swaying side to side, you narrowly avoid the spirit's jaws as she bites and gnashes. A splinter of a second later and her fangs would've been locked onto your head and neck. A most unsavory prospect to be sure. Multicolored flames flare and rise just beneath your feet, taking on the appearance of countless grasping and pulling hands seeking to rip you from their controller's body like a bloated tick.

Even as you are forced to allow your legs to hang freely, swinging upon the grips of the blades to avoid both fire and lead. The roar of the Chendao send tremors so deeply into your body they reach the very marrow of your bones. Huli Jing takes several unsteady, staggered steps forward in a desperate attempt to weaken your grip and throw you from your chest. Despite all the devil's attempts to free herself from your clutches, you hold firm and steady, golden eyes never straying from the spirit's own amber gaze.

The air grows heavy and tense with the sheer potency of mutual spite and contempt. Disgust becomes as tangible as a scent upon the wind, fury itself replaces the heat of the flames while convictions usurps the chill of the night air. Raw emotion overtakes reality as the atmosphere bristles and trembles in the presences of two unnatural forces meeting in pitched and truly desperate combat.

Yet you still hold firm, resolve and a sense of responsibility to bring this ages long nightmare at last to an end reinforcing your already unbreakable force of will. Clenching your jaw, you twist the blades of the sabers stuck upon Huli Jing's spine, further burrowing their edge into her flesh and bone. Black blood washes across you chest, as crimson rivers streak across your face and arms.

"Do not fear death" You mutter quietly, before your demands you raise your voice to an audacious shout, chanting the passage of the Journey directly into Huli Jing's snarling visage. Burning fumes flow from her lips to wash over your body, stinging and burning like an acidic concoction, the stench of spilt blood, nauseating perfumes and spoilt wine spilled upon wet leather.

"BE SILENT!" Huli Jing snarls, fire spilling from the depths of her gullet, spilling from her lips and across her gilded fangs. Using her chest as a springboard, you kick yourself into the air. Then using the Dao's now firmly stuck into the meat of her neck as a grip, you flip your body over not only the flames spewing from your enemy, but her head as well.

"DO NOT HATE DEATH!" You shout as the world turns upside down, as Huli Jing shakes her head and shoulders, trying to throw you off in one last desperate attempt to defend herself, to save herself.

Momentum and weight carries you the rest of the way, as the world returns to its proper position and you begin to fall down the devil's back.
cont
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>>4740096

"All things are transient and will one day end, but they shall remain!" You shout as gravity itself lends its aid in ending the affront to nature you battle again. Black oil and incandescent, shimmering fire of a myriad of colors unknown to your eyes spew from the ever widening wound upon the fox's neck.


However, there is a complication. You have to shift your grip upon the daos, the very moment you vault over your opponents head. And that is all the opportunity she requires. Falling to the ground, she stands as a true fox would, and charges forward blindly. You are cloaked by flame and fire, as the two of you become as a star falling across the heavens. Grinding your teeth, one of the twin daos tears cleaning through her flesh.

The over becomes lodge fast yet again, caught between two of her vertebrae, as her flesh and hide begin to knit over it like a sickening spider's web. In mere moments, the sprinting devil will have thrown you from her back and deprived you of yet another of your weapons. Acting quickly and decisively, you roll and wrap your legs around the base of her neck. Stabbing the freed saber between her shoulder blade and the trunk of her neck, you start sawing its brother through the regenerating meat and bone it has become caught in.

If Huli Jing was a living creature, she would be dead from the wounds she bears now. Her head rolls and flops like a fish left upon a sun baked river bank, yet she still speaks and shrieks in a thousand stolen voices. She also continues her panicked charge forward, the intensity of her sorcerous flames growing with each drunken, clumsy step forward she takes.

"A mountain may be ground to dust, but the field that stands where it once stood remains!" You shout, blood and flames lashing against you cheeks as you are throne and jostled from your seat upon the back of you enemy's neck and shoulders.

All of your experience riding Cui Fu's steed has prepared you well for mounting an evil spirit like an unbroken horse. Despite the difficulties in remaining seated upon a steed that truly wishes to throw you from its back and maul you as you fall, you hold firm and steady to preform your grisly work. Cutting and stabbing deeper into her neck's flesh and bone, you continue to rock the stuck Dao back and forth, gradually inching through the bone and marrow that still holds Huli Jing's head to her shoulders.

"A farmer may die in his field, but his children will tend it.!" You snarl, stabbing the free blade between the same vertebrae that have caught it's twin.

Huli Jing wails.

Then suddenly stops. You fall to the ground, landing on your back. All the air in your lungs are forced out, like a waterskin squeezed harshly. Breathing in a mouthful of air that stabs your throat and burns your tongue, you leap to your feet. Pain surges from your shoulders down, like the ceaseless torrent of a waterfall. Blinking, you stare into the darkness ahead and understand what had just happened.
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>>4740101

Huli Jing rammed the wall of the sixth palace in a final gambit to escape the doom that was rapidly approaching her, and throw you at last from her back.

A tactic so simple and mundane it almost became brilliant. Struggling to breath properly, the palms of your hands bleed. They were rubbed bare by the friction produced between your hands and the hilts of the twin daos. Which have left your hands.

Oh dear, that is quite troublesome indeed. As in the darkness and gloom ahead, you can hear Huli Jing struggle to breath, gurgling on her own fluids as she forces her mangled body to stand once more. In stygian shadows, you can just make out the two swords stuck firmly in her head. Two more of her eyes have been pulped and rendered useless.

Staggering forward, she claws and pulls at the weapons stuck in her flesh, The Chendao laying abandoned by her side.

"L..Llll" She groans, her voice crackling like ice dropped in boiling oil "Lllliiiiiiieeeeeeeeerrrrrghaaaaahn"

She pulls one of the blades free, and contemptuously tosses it to the ground, as a new river of blood flows from the horrific wound you had inflicted

"I will feast upon your flesh and become drunk upon your blood!" She howls madly, voice wavering from the agony coursing through her immaterial flesh, soaking so deeply it dyes the very core of her being with pain.


Licking the blood and sweat from your lips, you approach the broken demon, walking between the trail of golden fire she left behind as slid across the floor. A great groove of melted stone and burning carpets lines the path you walk. Never averting your glare from hers, you speak again, lingering aches and pains doing nothing to weaken the power and conviction of your voice.

"A warrior may die, but his final breath can change the course of nations!" You chant, smashing your fists together as you continue your march to meet your terrible foe, for what will hopefully be the final clash "Remember this, and know that while you will one day be forgotten, your actions no matter how small, shall shake the heavens themselves!"

"I will pull your tongue from your throat, and make you watch as I devour all who have named your savior!" She hisses, as she throws herself forward again, completely consumed by the fury roiling within her perhaps literally burning blood.

Calmly, you stretch one of your legs, and slam its foot to the floor, pressing a hand upon its knee. Repeating the action with the other, you lean back, stretching your back as you grip your skinned palms together and hold your bleeding, burnt arms above your head.

Now properly prepared and free of rigidness and stalled joints, you are readied for the battle to begin anew yet again.
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>>4740104

What is your seventh move, Lieren?
>Hold your ground, and stab the six fanged spear directly into Huli Jing's chest, beneath her ribcage as she pounces upon you.
>Lower your stance, and wrestle with the devil, using knee strikes, palm strikes, headbutts and every other dirty trick in the book to put her down.
>Adopt the fog Panther stance, and pierce your hand directly into her throat, grip her spine and toss her to the ground.
>With a crescent kick, trip her to the ground and then kick her head as hard as you are able to
>write in
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>>4740106
>With a crescent kick, trip her to the ground and then kick her head as hard as you are able to
She's shaky, this could work. Lieren's about to break his foot off in her skull.
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>>4740106
>Lower your stance, and wrestle with the devil, using knee strikes, palm strikes, headbutts and every other dirty trick in the book to put her down

into the materium now, bitch.
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>>4740121
...immaterium. And forgot my pic.
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>>4740106
>>write in
Charge forward and as she charges to meet us slam our foot upon the base of the discarded Chendao so it rises up and impales her the other side embedded in the ground. Then just pull the trigger.

Should we be unable to reach the handle to fire pull it free from her tearing from open/splitting her head if its in her mouth

(full Mortal Kombat)

>Adopt the fog Panther stance, and pierce your hand directly into her throat, grip her spine and toss her to the ground.
Pull the whole damned thing out!
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>>4740106
>With a crescent kick, trip her to the ground and then kick her head as hard as you are able to
>write in
with the spirit for the moment down cut the tails in one single strike, even the one at our side. then jump on the spirit until it is reduced to pulp on the floor.
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>>4740106
>>Adopt the fog Panther stance, and pierce your hand directly into her throat, grip her spine and toss her to the ground.

I trust in our style as much as any weapon. To have any less faith would be wrong if we wished to teach it to our students.
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>>4740106
>Adopt the fog Panther stance, and pierce your hand directly into her throat, grip her spine and toss her to the ground.
changing to this, slamming somebody by their fucking spine is too metal to pass up.
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>>4740106
>Adopt the fog Panther stance, and pierce your hand directly into her throat, grip her spine and toss her to the ground.
GET OVER HERE!
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>>4740106
>Kick the Chendao up and into her chest
>Adopt fog Panther style and go for the spine.
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“Welcome to my age; 31 000 AD,
First had my pops and now ya got me.
Crawled out a dragon egg so you know I spit fire,
Saw a world in ruin; streets state was dire.

Started up Nowhere and gathered a crew,
I got Hunters by the dozen and we bringing something new.
Now we're on the rise dropping Tyrant left and right,
Built a new road to enjoy Lieren's wild ride.

Last to fall is the Fox she think she all that,
But the girl went made at the sick words a spat.
Now she's bleedin on the floor he throne alight,
But that'll all you'll hear from me this was Lieren! Goodnight!”


(i should probs stick to Haiku)
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>>4740189
I've seen worse, so at least there's that.
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>>4740189
Reminds me of Del the funky homosapien really. and Lieren fits with the album 3030
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>>4739707
Good, only through the Grand Anarch can one become truly free.
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>>4740106
>>Hold your ground, and stab the six fanged spear directly into Huli Jing's chest, beneath her ribcage as she pounces upon you.

Let's maybe not fight a demon with fire powers bare handed.
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>>4740106
>Hold your ground, and stab the six fanged spear directly into Huli Jing's chest, beneath her ribcage as she pounces upon you.
We have a bunch of weapons, might as well use them all.
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>>4740106
>>Hold your ground, and stab the six fanged spear directly into Huli Jing's chest, beneath her ribcage as she pounces upon you.

I feel as if Lieren is getting a bit too cocky in this fight .
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>>4740188
I will add driving the six fanged spear into her chest, We can throw it like a javelin can't we.
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>>4740106
>>Adopt the fog Panther stance, and pierce your hand directly into her throat, grip her spine and toss her to the ground.
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>>4740470
This but I got a write in. The Malal Option.

As we chant
"With this thrust I end your schemes and trickery.
" With your own spear I end the your reign of blood and war"
"With your own implement I cut away the cancerous and corrupt disease that you spread"
"With this final blow I end your zealous quest of perfection and destroy the mindless self indulgence you have wrought!"

We should also destroy the spear after.


the quest is looking awesome! I hope you are enjoying the surprising path Kolinasi is taking! And you indirectly helped me get an interview for my dream job, your update kept me up long enough to apply for it as I wasn't expecting it so soon.
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>>4740106
>Hold your ground, and stab the six fanged spear directly into Huli Jing's chest, beneath her ribcage as she pounces upon you.
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>>4740106
>>Adopt the fog Panther stance, and pierce your hand directly into her throat, grip her spine and toss her to the ground.
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>>4740052
It's never a good idea to separate scholars from warriors, if they are to train their minds then our followers must accept training their bodies as well
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>>4740106
>>With a crescent kick, trip her to the ground and then kick her head as hard as you are able to
Man this fight’s been pretty brutal and it’s only been against a Slaaneshi daemon, makes me wonder how a fight against a Khornate daemon will look
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>>4740634
Hopefully we save that one for after puberty, I say we take down the tzeench daemon next, nerds are always easy to bully
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>>4740634
Worse. If we have to fight something like that, I'd rather we not ever consider going into melee combat with one, unless Lieren is significantly older. And in power armor.
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>>4740634
When we do that, we should probably stop trying to coup de grace in every update and try to weaken the daemon first.
Or just do an artillery strike for a few hours with shell tied with copies of the journey.
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>>Hold your ground, and stab the six fanged spear directly into Huli Jing's chest, beneath her ribcage as she pounces upon you.
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>>4740106
>>Hold your ground, and stab the six fanged spear directly into Huli Jing's chest, beneath her ribcage as she pounces upon you.
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>>4740106
>Adopt the fog Panther stance, and pierce your hand directly into her throat, grip her spine and toss her to the ground.
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>>4740106
>Adopt the fog Panther stance, and pierce your hand directly into her throat, grip her spine and toss her to the ground
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>>4740658
Support
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So I have a question. You guys want to bring the crippled to Kanzeon so she can heal them right? How are you guys going to get them past the daemon?
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>>4741541
Tell the demon to fuck off.

More seriously, that was never the plan, the plan was to devise our own cybernetics and medicine with the industrial base we plan to build.
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>>4740106
>Adopt the fog Panther stance, and pierce your hand directly into her throat, grip her spine and toss her to the ground.
then
>[Write-in] Now bereft of our daos and chendao we must resort to our most holy of weapons
>The Journey, our personal copy, strike her down with it
>"The Journey I write of, the road I suggest, and way I guide you down, is not one to be forced onto any man, nor is any other way of life."
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>>4741550
>the plan was to devise our own cybernetics and medicine with the industrial base we plan to build.
That’s not practical, at all. It would take years for Lieren to build up an industrial base to that level.
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>>4740106
>Adopt the fog Panther stance, and pierce your hand directly into her throat, grip her spine and toss her to the ground
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>>4741573
That's still the plan. And to make it an "easy access industrial effort" sure that's impractical. For two individuals as a test run it's going to be slightly expensive but nothing prohibitively so.
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>>4741541
Just keep beatting him again until he learns his lesson and leaves.
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>>4741573
And you think that just using an untested, thousands of year old ship buried inside a mountain is better?
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>>4741621
Admittidly it is DAOT tech. That crap is miles better than literally anything humanity has produced since, save perhaps the primarchs.
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>>4741621
>And you think that just using an untested, thousands of year old ship buried inside a mountain is better?
Absolutely. Archeotech in 40k is magic for all intents and purposes.
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>>4741658
That's the problem, it's a dangerous crutch. Remember it was literally buried under a chaos cult. What if the healing pods turn them into cronenberg abominations?
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>>4741672
Kanzeon doesn’t like daemons for one and is still an AI from the DAOT. Lieren doesn’t need to build up the industry when he could just compile a bunch of books with the relevent information along side Kanzeon then distribute them throughout the nation into the hands of people that can do it for us. This is all assuming that she has no manufactorum or cloning vat.
>crutch
Oh fuck off. Using her to immediately fix people that are crippled for life isn’t a “crutch”. Many of them will be an active drain on resources because they are crippled, fixing that creates a bigger labor pool to build up the industry.
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>>4741693
Kanzeon doesn't even really know what daemons are. Her personality core is safe sure, but are you CERTAIN her healing bay will work? That it is not corupted? It's a high risk.

Also, I say crutch because I don't want Shangrala to have those disgusting manufactorums that are needed to produce DAOT shit.
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>>4741701
Kanzeon is a DAOT colony ship. She has tech to make a primitive world into a high tech world in years at worst. She has a medbay, she has pretty much anything Lieren would want to learn, and would probably research the egg and all of it's knowledge in days/weeks. She also has a friendly and particularly smart primarch to help her. With the insane ammount of resources we'll have after unifiying the Yan kingdom and with a lot of free time to go full prosperity if we pick Jinhai as emperor/world governor of Shangrala, we'll be able to do general upgrades to literally every aspect of Shangralan society. Then we go full conquest, ejem, liberation
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Btw, let's make some theories about Lieren Terran sons. How will they be based on what Malal has allowed us to know? Will they be like Lieren? Will they fall right into selfrighteousness and holier than thou bitching? Will they scare even Angron sons by being top fucking savage berserker murderblenders? We can all agree that they will dab on their oponents, both verbally and physically, at the same time, thats a given
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>>4741738
>How will they be based on what Malal has allowed us to know?
Legion culture seems to draw from the Old Hundred regiments they serve with more than from wherever their recruitment pool is, if the two are separate. I hope it gets really ingrained within the legion, I want to see how Lieren's space china upbringing reacts with the cultures of Terra. But since they seem so close to their allies, I can see their attitude towards baseline humans being similar to the Salamanders or Thousand Sons.
>Will they be like Lieren?
I almost hope they aren't, I've always found the dynamic between primarchs and Terran-born marines to be interesting. How Lieren deals with people who are very different than he is, despite them being his "sons" and people he's stuck with until every human world is reunited would be interesting to play, especially since most of our brothers usually took the less-than-benevolent route and sent them all into FUBAR situations so they'd be killed off.
>Will they fall right into selfrighteousness and holier than thou bitching?
Almost all astartes do at some level. But maybe less than any of their cousins.
>Will they scare even Angron sons by being top fucking savage berserker murderblenders?
Probably not, but I'd be surprised if all of them take to Lieren's view of violence being something only to be used as a last resort. We might discover our own Sigismund or Sevatar or Corswain somewhere.
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>>4741738
>>4741889
We've already seen them. Malal did a thing where he swapped to them fighting on Terra. Their whole gimmick as a legion is "Not one step back" and they have a kinda noblebright resolve.
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>>4741621
Anon you're vastly underestimating a DAOT ship, and the vastly overestimating that chaos cult. Remember Lieren can /see/ corruption and he didn't see any in the bowls of the ship.
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>>4741958
Do recall that when we saw them they were feeling the effects of our psychic bonding enlightenment, like Jin hair and Lady Gao did.
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>>4741541
We have intentions to purge it, the same intentions we have for Huli Jing.
Thankfully we both had experience in fighting against the sorcerer slave as well against another evil spirit, so if it has not run away in fear and is still there doing peek-a-boo in the stone of the temple halls, he is going to get destroyed.
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>>4741621
In regard to the cripple, we can give them a heal here first. Before we ask Kazeon, we need to secure the mountain and do other things.
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>>4741998
Yeah, but it was Jinhai and the Black General not our lady.
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>>4742031
Feng and Gao Daiyu also got affected and one of the brothers on door duty. Same for the old man.

We only summoned those two for their aid in cutting through the palace, but they were not the only one's effected.
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Alright. Calling the vote now.

With a crescent kick, trip her to the ground and then kick her head as hard as you are able to:2

Lower your stance, and wrestle with the devil, using knee strikes, palm strikes, headbutts and every other dirty trick in the book to put her down:1

Mock charge and kick the Chendao at the devil's head:2

Adopt the fog Panther stance, and pierce your hand directly into her throat, grip her spine and toss her to the ground.:11


Attempt to sever Huli Jing's tails:1

Hold your ground, and stab the six fanged spear directly into Huli Jing's chest, beneath her ribcage as she pounces upon you.:9

"With this thrust I end your schemes and trickery" etc:1

Now bereft of our daos and chendao we must resort to our most holy of weapons, THE JOURNEY ITSELF:1

Total votes:22

So Lieren shall use the fog panther style, piercing his hand into the wound upon Huli Jing's neck to grab ahold of her spine and attempt to throw her to the ground.

Writing now.

>>4740511
Oh wow that's an amazing example of the butterfly effect. I'm real happy for you

>>4740189
Well I liked it at least
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However, you do not move from where you had stomped your feet. Instead, you steady your stance, lowering your center of gravity while subtly shifting your legs and shoulders to mimic the movements of a panther just prior to pouncing. Sliding and circling your hands through the air, you press the bleeding fingers of your left hand into a spear of flesh and bone as hard as steel while forcing the muscles of your right to contract tightly, turning that hand into a claw as deadly as any true panther's claws.

Holding the claw hand forward, you slowly draw your "spear" arm back to your side, resting it mere inches away from the twitching tail still tied to your hip. Standing as still as a stone figurine, you snarl, your expression contorting to a fearsome grimace not too dissimilar from the visage of an enraged feline. Barring your teeth like fangs, the air escaping from your lungs becomes a wordless battle cry. Feral, primitive, yet easily understood by all men and beasts. Huli Jing is of beastly, wicked nature so you shall challenge the spirit as one of her kin doubtlessly would.

With barred fangs and a hissing tongue. It is more of a ceremonial gesture than anything else, as you are already fighting the devil and she herself is already held under the sway of the rage your words have inspired within her. Indeed, as you utter the unspoken challenge, she has already began to charge towards you again, sputtering flames flowing from the spaces between her golden claws and smoke billowing from her gilded jaws. Abandoning the final vestige of her civilized trappings and façade of cultured manner and etiquette, she now intends to battle as a mere beast would. Showing her true self as she struggles to remain standing upon the boundary between life and death.

Brute force, replacing graceful skill. Her maddened mind weakening her ability to control the flames that still cloak her bloody form. However, a storm of fire even when lessened and waned remains a most deadly obstacle and even if wielded blindly remains a most effective weapon. No matter that intellect that guides it, sorcerous fire is a threat not only to the flesh, not only to the mind, but to the very soul as well.

It would be foolish to underestimate Huli Jing, even if she has adopted a further wild and untamed form, her ferocity and power has not been lessened. All that has been, is her self control and wit. A rabid beast is often a more treacherous foe than its healthy counterpart, as a madman is far more threatening than a sane man ever could be. Insanity and blind rage merely replace skill and grace with unpredictability and unrestrained power.

Caution must be applied. A wounded dog fights more fiercely, a cornered panther fears not death, as it is often said. You must remained focused and above all else calm. The opening you are awaiting shall only last for a fraction of a moment and missing the chance to exploit it will be utterly devastating.

Cont
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>>4742194

And you well know what you risk by remaining still and passive and gambling everything on a single attack that must be committed to utterly, while only being able to preform the strike properly in a span of time that can scarcely be measured. A mauling will await you should you be fail to perform the movement correctly. Bloody images flash through your minds eye, primarily of your dear friend Feng's hunting accident. But you banish such illusions from the depths of your mind, and order serenity to remain in the void that supplants such grim imaginings.

The strike must be performed accurately, there is no allowance for mistakes or missteps. A mere centimeter off, and the strike with flounder and fail to accomplish what you intend it to. The simplest of miscalculations, and you'll be at Huli Jing's mercy. A most unsavory proposition to be sure.

Silencing your mind of all thought, a sigh passes by your lips. Glaring into the raging inferno that flies towards you like a star descended from the heavens, you use the time still afforded to you to apply miniscule and nigh unnoticeable adjustments to your stance.

Amber eyes flash beneath the shroud of smoke that covers Huli Jing's face, drool boils and turns to steam before your eyes, golden fangs glow in fire light like shards of fallen sun. The three claws still upon her hands turn to flashes of burning metal. The sound of blades cutting through the air rings in your ears, as the ground quakes and once more begins to melt and run as if it were made of common wax.

Wearing an unchanging, stoic expression you raise your head. Huli Jing stands before you, in all her terrible glory. An avatar of the indulgent, wastrel lifestyle you have battled against for all of your short life. The very incarnation of wicked sadism and pointless excess, The cruelty of the Yan nobility standing as a living creature of flesh and blood. All the evils in the world given an earthly vessel. Sin, vileness, abomination, monstrosity. Your eyes water to stare so deeply into her being, but you endure the minor irritation to gaze upon the value of your foe fully for the first time since you began to battle against her.

As you had seen before, the very core of her being is hubris. Where men would have a soul, the fox devil has a core forged purely of pride and a bloated sense of superiority. A golden ball of light from which all of her essence originates. But scratch away at the surface, and golden pride turns to fear and panic.

Panic that reality shall overcome and prove her delusions of invincibility for what they truly are. A pleasant lie she has constructed for herself, over the centuries, over the eons.

Huli Jing shall learn the truth of your words, and understand that death comes from all things. Even spirits and devils!.

Now allowing yourself to blink, as such a transient blindness may throw off your aim, you strike.
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>>4742198

First, a feint. Swiping with your right hand, Huli Jing reacts to the "claw", moving to bite clean through your wrist. As you hoped she would, for leaning forward has brought her neck well within the range of your "spear" hand and the lunge has left her wounded throat exposed. And thus, utterly undefended.

Huli Jing's eyes widen to the width of a extravagant drinking dish, as she understands her folly as it occurs. But it is too late for her to right her misstep or retaliate. The core of being cracks, as her pride finally breaks and is forced to look upon and truly comprehend her failings and realize that all of her wounds were inflicted solely by her own bloated ego.

Your nails cut through her torn flesh like a spear through a panther's hide, slicing the sinew that is already attempt to mend her wound. The momentum of your foes charge proves to be a great boon, as it lends itself to aid in driving your hand deeper into Huli Jing's body and with greater haste.

Curling the fingers forming your "spear", you crack the already weakened vertebrae of the foxes neck, and then slide your degloved palm over her spine and grip it tightly in a stranglehold. Taking a hold of her, you tighten your grip and hear the unmistakable sound of bones cracking, muffled by flesh and monstrously thick hide.

Pivoting on the heel of your backmost foot, you lift the other as you turn and use all of your strength and weight in tandem, to lift the gigantic beast from the ground and the fires that surround her. Despite the difference in stature between the two of you, you manage to lift Huli Jing like a kitten. Her body tenses, the muscles surrounding your hand crushing and grinding against it as she begins to flail and claw in a blind panic, using every part of her body in a desperate bid to free herself from your grasp.

But the struggles of the devil of the Yan are both pointless and impotent. All they succeed in, is depriving her of what remains of her dignity.

Rolling your shoulders, you twist your body at your hips. Utilizing a throw Small Chen taught you when you first befriended him, you slam the evil spirt to the ground with such force and so violently, her back breaks the stone foundations of the sixth palace. And thus reveals a hidden that functions both as a catacombs and a wine cellar.

Huli Jing falls like a tatter doll, her gangly, unnatural limbs contorting further as they break against statues of former kings, her own puppets. Their smiling, sneering faces are broken as the devil that ruined their bloodline with the rot of extravagance and sickness of cruelty falls upon them, bones snapping like twigs as she falls further. Her broken body comes to rest upon a cast of aged peach brandy, shattering the vessel and spilling the potent liquor over her open wounds, soaking and staining her golden hide the color of rust and chestnuts.
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>>4742201

Crouching low to the ground, you peer through the crater you've created, and look upon the evil spirit's shattered form. Her eyes move wildly, desperately searching for a means of salvation or escape. Her tails twitch periodically, without rhythm or control, like dying snakes or eels tossed into boiling water. Her mighty legs kick and jolt, her arms lay limp as he jaws shudder and struggle to speak.

The throw may not have been enough to fully sever the wretch's foul head from her shoulders, but it was powerful enough to break her neck and thus paralyze her body nearly completely. Pillars, tongues and snapping jaws of flames fly through the hole in the ground, trying to scare you from their mistress' defenseless form.

Snorting, you stand to your full height and cross your arms. Bowing your head, you begin to ponder. What means are required to ensure Huli Jing's death?

How shall you execute the Beguiler of Dynasties, Lieren?
> As you have most criminals, a sturdy rope and a sudden drop
>Light her ninth tail with mundane flames, and toss it to her, immolating the alcohol that has soaked into her fur.
>Grab one of your weapons and use it to sever her head. Even a spirit cannot survive a decapitation.
>Leap down upon her, and stomp her head until it is turned to a greasy smear upon the floor
>Write in?
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What do you feel as you kill her, Lieren?
>Relief and satisfaction
>Contempt and disgust
>Sorrow and Pity.
>Serenity and Hope for the coming dawn
>write in?
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>>4742205
>Draw the spear and drive it into her heart
>Leap down and smash the head to a smear
>Light the remains alight with mundane flames.

There is no such thing as overkill here.
>Contempt and digust for the demon, Serenity and hope for the inhabitants of the kingdom of Yan after having to suffer her machinations.

I think that while Lieren may hate demons with a passion, his thoughts would be on the wider world and how much better it will be now that she is dead.
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>>4742227
To further elaborate on why she doesn't get any pity or sorrow. While Yan and other tyrants may have made choices that could have been changed, this creature never had any chance of being anything but what she is as far as we can tell. There was no "what if" to contemplate.

Unless others think that the journey says we should mourn for a hypothetical impossibility that has no actual chance of being true.
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>>4742205
>>Leap down upon her, and stomp her head until it is turned to a greasy smear upon the floor
>>Serenity and Hope for the coming dawn
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>>4742205
>> As you have most criminals, a sturdy rope and a sudden drop
I NAME THE TYRANT. A VORTEX OF DEBAUCHERY AND EXCESS THAT HAS CONSUMED COUNTLESS MEN OF VIRTUE. MAY THE GODS HAVE MERCY ON YOU, FOR I HAVE ONLY ROPE.

>Sorrow and Pity.
Pity for a being that was doomed to fail from it's very inception. Reality is as we will it and it shall be good for all.
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>>4742205
>Panic that reality shall overcome and prove her delusions of invincibility for what they truly are. A pleasant lie she has constructed for herself, over the centuries, over the eons.
>Huli Jing shall learn the truth of your words, and understand that death comes from all things. Even spirits and devils!.
It's almost worth pitying over.

>Write in?
Sing to her a song, with lyrics inspired by her own hubris and failings. This is her funeral, and the wine soaked Catacombs shall be her grave.
Like all things be they material, and apparently now proven to apply to the spiritual as well, all things will end (ex: the monks). Huli Jing is dying and will become no more, and she needs to accept this. She has failed her master, and if she's anything like the negative qualities she had fostered within the Yan kingdom, she will be tortured, maimed, and double killed if she returns to whomever they are.

I feel like those four after killing choices might related to one of the four chaos gods
>Khorne or Slannesh
>Khone
>Maybe Nurgle
>Tzzetch

my vote is Pity.
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>>4742205
>Draw the spear and drive it into her heart
>Leap down and smash the head to a smear
>Light the remains and the ninth flame alight with mundane flames.
>Recite verses of the Journey and tell it that it shall not exist anymore, neither in life or death. An evil spirit and evil, don t deserve either.
>Also kill and launch the pig king in the fire.

(avoid that this fire spreads through the palace we have stuff to do)

>Contempt and digust for the demon, Serenity and hope for the inhabitants of the kingdom of Yan after having to suffer her machinations.
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>>4742205
>Light her ninth tail with mundane flames, and toss it to her, immolating the alcohol that has soaked into her fur.
>Exhaustion and melancholy for those who gave their lives for your cause this night
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>>4742205

>Light her ninth tail with mundane flames, and toss it to her, immolating the alcohol that has soaked into her fur.

>Relief and satisfaction
When the daemon is finally dead.
>Contempt and disgust
For the daemon’s existence is a repulsive one.
>Sorrow and Pity.
For all of the people it twisted and lives it destroyed.
>Serenity and Hope for the coming dawn
Because now there is a chance for a better future
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>>4742251
+1 for the melancholy

>>4742251
>>4742248
>>4742227
Why the fire? Didn't we want to keep a tail sample for study?
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>>4742205
> As you have most criminals, a sturdy rope and a sudden drop
There are no alternatives. She is a Tyrant, a Tyrant's death she will receive.
>Serenity and Hope for the coming dawn
This is proof that the daemons CAN be slain and they CAN be beaten.
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>>4742248
I think we can kill the Yan king in a bit, lets deal with her now.

The verse idea is good though. We can probably use this to devise funerary rites, so I'll ad it to my vote.>>4742227
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>>4742256
Some people did, I however am going to be one of those paranoid people and want her to be dead dead dead dead dead DEAD! since she is apparently still partially alive in her tail judging by it's movements and actions. Helpless but alive.
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>>4742256
>Why the fire? Didn't we want to keep a tail sample for study?
Hell the fuck no. We have concluded over the past 20 minutes (and several days) that this daemon in particular is to be exterminated without a trace.
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>>4742248
Also to add to my post, don t call her by her name. She doesn't deserve even a name, evil spirit will suffice. Neutral and bland.


>>4742256
i, for me, voted for keep it back then for better understand if it was connected to something. Now i have that confirmation and i know exactly what it is. I want to deny her even a dumb existance on her last tail.


>>4742258
personally i like the idea of throwing them in the trash together, master and servant. Even if the king hate the guts of the spirit right now which is funny.
Beside we can t do a proper public execution with a fur and meat blob, which is what he would have deserve and would have give the yang people some smiles to see it die.
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Test
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While she is burning we should probably pray for her soul/essance to reincarnate into a better life/mortal life. Itd be a good precident for compassion, even if undeserved.

Also: emotions and belief shape the warp. If you entrench an idea of evil warp entities who are slain and given rights being forced into the cycle of reincarnation as new 'pure' souls then you might have a way to take their power away from their master forever. But thats just conjecture.
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>>4742205
Her head is still flopping around and her neck is only now broken right? I'm making sure I'm keeping up here.

>How shall you execute the Beguiler of Dynasties, Lieren?
Can we retrieve the Chendao from her tail and use it to execute her as a priority? Seems fitting.

Elsewise, suggest:
>Grab one of your weapons and use it to sever her head. Even a spirit cannot survive a decapitation.
Using the Dao power swords for becoming a symbol of cleansing, and reinforcing the sword bonus to demons.

She's still on fire, will burn the rope, plus her neck is already broken. I don't think a rope will avail us any use unless we tie her tails to a pillar and pull her neck off with the rope. That seems.. inefficient.

>What do you feel as you kill her, Lieren?
Relief and satisfaction at surviving our most fierce contest of arms.
>Serenity and Hope for the coming dawn

>>4742258
Yan King was snoo-snooed in death by Huli Jing.
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>>4742378
Thought he was spawned, not snoo snood
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We cannot forget to save the maimed Journeywoman that we found.
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>>4742205
>>Light her ninth tail with mundane flames, and toss it to her, immolating the alcohol that has soaked into her fur.

>Serenity and Hope for the coming dawn
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>In her six amber eyes, contempt and glee intermingled. Drool washed across her gilded fangs as she used your body as a plow upon the wall, cutting a deep trench with it as she sprinted across the corpse strewn throne room. The mewling flesh pile that was Yan Weizha cries out with a mixture of maddened delight and impotent distress.

Apologies, you're right. I had assumed it was the final gasps of his corpse but I missed the delight/distress bit.

This is most distressing that he still lives.
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>>4742205
> As you have most criminals, a sturdy rope and a sudden drop
The biggest insult to her pride, to die as a common criminal.
>Contempt and disgust
>Serenity and Hope for the coming dawn
Comtempt that the being would let itself be blinded by it's own pride. Disgust that it would lead a existance of extravagance. Serenity for the return of the natural order. Hope for a better future for all.
All of the cornerstones of the Journey, together in harmony for the betterment of men. As it should be.
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>>4742205
>Light her ninth tail with mundane flames, and toss it to her, immolating the alcohol that has soaked into her fur.
>Write in
Crotch down for a moment to watch but also catch our breath being wary, we will sing to her, sing her to her final sleep.

"Goodbye scheming fox your trickster days are through
Sleep well wily fox dream of something new.
Your schemes are lost and now it's your time to burn.

But let me tell you this for whatever worth you had,
I will not take joy, i will not feel sad.
Your kingdom is no more taken by cleansing flame
yet from the pure ashes the world can grow again."

>write in?
We don't feel a wellspring of joy or pride nor a sink of disgust. We see a thing of emotion flit away in embers like so many other fleeting things, we see vindication in our belief and Journey. Like knowing something to be true no matter personal thoughts upon the issue.
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Y'know, it was fun the first time, but now you people are just trying to put in purple prose everywhere. We're not fockin fulgrim.
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>>4742205
>>Grab one of your weapons and use it to sever her head. Even a spirit cannot survive a decapitation.
>>>Exhaustion and melancholy for those who gave their lives for your cause this night
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>4742821
Lieren talks like that anyway. It was funny watching Kaz try to stop it, despite mimicking the Yan way of speaking.

Ironically enough, Fulgrim probably speaks with much less prose and pomp.
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I'm starting to believe that this quest size and setting has attracted a few of TG's shitposters, given the rise in attempted trolling that have happened in the last 3 threads.
The reason I believe they come specificaly from /tg/ is the apperant hatred for anything original that anons write.
If someone posts Ribbon and than samefags to say woya, say to stop playing dnd or post a local lord copypasta, then I will have concrete proof.
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>>4742913
Wot?
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>>4742913
I wouldn't be too concerned. The /tg/ posters who like quests are already here and the ones who don't are sperging out over collaborative writing projects right now. 40k isekai stories are currently in the vogue.
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>>4742205
>>Write in?
>>Grab one of your weapons and use it to sever her head. Even a spirit cannot survive a decapitation. Then toss the ninth tail on the body and immolate it with alcohol.

>Sorrow and Pity.
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>>4742205
I’ll support >>4742251
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>>4742951
I hope it's just paranoia, because /tg/ shitposters are stubborn and relentless.
Cryptekanon is the most based of the isekai 40k writers
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>>4742982
Sorta by default. Cupanon is MIA and Eldarbro is on hiatus.
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>>4742913
Telling people to stop playing D&D is good advice though.
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>>4742821
You're right

We're better
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I kind of agree with >>4742821 the first poetry votes were great, but after several anticlimatic haikus it lost it's spark. When you look more of a tryhard than Bel'akor you know that whatever it's causing it needs to stop.
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>>4743130
No doubt, but the poetry is alredy excessive and makes the quest less serious and "authentic" 40k and more neckbeard hype notebook.
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>>4742913
Are you making a critic of the people writing poetry or a critic of the people complaining about poetry? Or something different... perhaps...something entirely new.
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>>4743330
Just noticing a recent trend of people trying to shit on any creativity on the quest without actually giving actual reasons or criticism, normally ID that post only 4 to 5 times and disappear, only for another new ID to appear and keep trying to bait, everytime creating a small shitstorm.
And that reminded me of the shitposter over at /tg/, and their buthurt of the ressurection of actual original content on the board, so my paranoia connected the dots and came to a conclusion that some of those sad beings could have migrated here smelling a new hunting ground.
So a reminder for everyone, only interact if the other person actually makes an argument, atleast that way if they are baiting, it won't just be a bunch of insults or gaslighting, but a semblance of a conversation.
And if the person is doing it in good faith, than it's just businnes as usual.
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>>4743330
And you seem genuine, since you actually bottered to give reasons, and even good ones at that, so keep on doing what you do my dude.
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How many primarch have been known to kill the beings from the warp before big E showed up?
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>>4744230
From what I remember, Lion was killing Chaos spawns on Caliban all day erry day and Magnus drove the Psychneuein to extinction on Prospero. Leman may also have done some stuff.
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>>4744230
Mostly just the Lion, who spent his formative years like Lieren did, except all of them alone. On a death world with malicious forests and chaos spawn the size of tanks.
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>>4744264
TBF on calliban they did have knights wearing powered armour and wielding bolters and chainswords.
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>>4744280
how the fuck did they get that tech?
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>>4744486
Oddly, they’ve always had them. Probably leftovers from the DAOT.
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>>4744486
Just like all other worlds, they had an advanced tech level. Tech levels across the isolated age of strife worlds really differed. Some places, like Shangrala, went straight up back to the middle ages, while others like Rogal Dorn's Inwit had gigantic Hive Cities.
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>>4742205
>Light her ninth tail with mundane flames, and toss it to her, immolating the alcohol that has soaked into her fur.
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Malal, did you ever say which Alpharius Omegon backstory you're going to go with? With things kinda shaken up after his Primarch novel released, you have a much less ambiguous one to use, if it isn't an outright lie. Or are you keep it secret, as befits the Twins?
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>>4744893
I'm not Malal but I think I already know the answer. His response will be "I'm going with one of them, none of them, and all of them, I am Alpharius and this is a lie."
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>>4744748
And Gorillaman landed on an interstellar empire in its own right, Fulgrim on a polluted industrial hellhole, Corvus on a penal mining colony for an Admech-equivalent civilization etc.
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>>4745644
Speaking of AdMech, i wonder if there's going to be any AdMech close to us. I don't know, Space Japan?

I mean, we're going to need some more loyal cogboys of our own if we want to keep our 'land' the way we want to, but i wonder if there's an forge world that's already close. That could either be good, or bad.
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>>4745091
Yeah, that would be on-brand.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait.

Total votes:15

Draw the spear and drive it into her heart:2

Leap down and smash the head to a smear:3

Light her ninth tail with mundane flames, and toss it to her, immolating the alcohol that has soaked into her fur:7

Fully sever the devil's head by hanging her like a common criminal:3

Sing to her a funerary song:2


Recite verses of the Journey and tell it that it shall not exist anymore, neither in life or death. An evil spirit and evil, don t deserve either:1

Also kill the remenants of Yan Weizha:1

Use one of your weapons to decapitate Huli Jing:3
-Execute her with the Chendao:1
-Power swords:1

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EMOTION vote

Contempt/ Disgust:4
Serenity/Hope:8
Sorrow/pity:3
Exhaustion/ Melancholy:4
Relief/ Satisfaction:2
Vindication:1

So Lieren shall simply immolate the paralyzed demon, using her stolen tail as a torch to set her motionless form ablaze.

With serene and hopeful thoughts as he does so.

Writing now.

Also to the lads who voted to capture the tail when Yin Aiguo was slain, good foresight. Not having it attached weakened Huli Jing, as some of you guessed earlier.

>>4744893
You will see eventually. Spoilers are gay after all
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>>4746863
>Think happy thoughts as we burn the daemoness
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>>4746863
FOR THE JOURNEY
CLEANSE THEIR INIQUITY
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>>4746865
>Fortunate son plays as Lieren does a vietnam on a demon world
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>>4746882
I dunno, Red Sun makes more sense~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jynTNYSKNuk

Big change coming in paradise.
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>>4746865
If she breaths she's a thot
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The Daemon that had worn the mask named Huli Jing tried to scream. To roar and bellow in rage and defiance, to spit venomous insults and poisonous lies with its final breath upon the Materium. But her truest desire, as her incarnate body lay broken and shamefully crippled surrounded by dust, moldering bones and aged wine, was to cry out and whimper in a show of blind fear and panic. She understood, the emotion that dominated her ancient mind and essence was one that was not merely entirely abhorrent to her being, but one that completely conflicted with the nature of her existence.

Mortal dread. The fear experienced by the living as they stared into the abyssal waters of oblivion. An feeling that should have no foundation to find root within the heart of an existence like herself. And yet it remained, screaming like an abandoned babe, drowning out all other impotent impulses and defiant desires. In the mind that had planned and seen to commit countless atrocities and depravities so foul they were unnamed in mortal tongue, one voice screamed louder than all the others. A desire that brought shame to a being bred from such sordid emotions. A wayward hope to be saved, the same felt by a child abandon upon a winter's road side, or a pup deprived of its mother.

The nameless fear experienced by all things living. The fear of the unavoidable end that awaited all beings, inflicted by a cyclopean god that fed upon the stars themselves. The terror of truly being left alone. Such shameful feelings crippled Huli Jing worse the damage the Giant had inflicted upon her. These traitorous thoughts that went against the very core of her being, the primary essences of her existence, became unfading scars upon flesh and mind.

In the dark, trapped in her own material form. Huli Jing had been rendered to a child afraid of the monster that stood at the edge of her vision. What had once been a mortal soul, quivered and cried for its uncaring mother to pluck it from the jaws of the cruel predator that stood before it. But no answer came, the silent pleas passed unheard.

And then a sight observed singularly by the crying daemon's panicked eyes, passed by. Reality flickered, the shifting of the world centered upon the would be pawn that had bested her and brought her so low.

Realization danced upon the edges of Huli Jing's fury and fear frayed mind. The Celestial Incarnation Palace was constructed to serve as great ritualistic sigil, that was once destined to tear down the veils between the realm of souls and the world of the living. The winds of the warp surrounded the unhallowed ground the daemon had prepared and carefully cultivated over the passing of generations and dynasties. The fabric of reality was thin within the grounds of her lair by its very design and it had been weakened further by the deeds and hungers of its passing stable of inhabitants.
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>>4746946

Lieren's words chimed, cutting a forceful feeling of serenity and calm into the once struggling Daemon's mind. The blinding, painful light of gold that poured freely from his essence chimed. Paradoxically both mocking and pitying.

"The cycle is without end and beginning and with it's power these threats will be made unreal"

Reality began to be painted by the immature Primarch's power, fed upon by and in turn feeding upon thousands of devoted souls and the belief of ardent followers and friends. The corked vessel spilled outwards. And Reality continued to flicker, as the Empyrean sea was briefly stained by the indomitable will of the Hunter. Who subconsciously commanded the raging storm that unknowingly surrounded him to calm and reflect the world within himself. Warm intensity washed over Huli Jing, as the scene before her eyes for a moment shifted and truly changed.

There, Lieren stood, now a stooped and crooked old man mundanely sized. Walking along roads of flowers, so simple and dully colored they had become brilliant and beautiful naturally. The colors of nature, the hues of simple pleasures and joys. The view of a calm mind. Aged Lieren stood by the mouth of a serene lake, his back turned to the rising dawn as night's terror was banished away by its glow. His eyes were closed, as he enjoyed the gentle spring breeze and cooling air rising from the lake's waters. Tombs of the dead dotted the field of flowers, surrounding the serene lake within his mind.

As the sun breeched the horizon Lieren opened his eyes, revealing their golden gaze. Yet it was gentle and hopeful, the kindly eyes of a father watching his son grow to be a man.

"Father Wenyan, it is done." the illusionary Lieren muttered, as the chaos of the warp overtook the hopeful dream imposed upon it by the Giant's untarnished heart "For nothing is real but what you create and what we create is reality."

Huli Jing saw reality again, her sense of self returning to her, as she realized the flower in the Giant's hands was in fact her missing ninth tail he had stolen days before, no set alight like a common torch.

The Indignity of such a sight, briefly buried the small child crying for help and mercy within her heart. But that same fear quickly returned to her heart, as the Giant with no grand speech or proper ceremony, dropped her tail down the hole he stood over.

Huli Jing wailed as the falling flame danced for a moment, before righting itself and flying like an arrow to return to her body. Immolated by a portion of her own body, Huli Jing cried out.

"I curse your name and legacy, Lieren! I shall not forgive such indignity" She cried out, but her words could not leave her lips, for the flames had already consumed her mouth and throat.

Instead, Huli Jing felt herself banished, banished back to the place of her birth, returned to the court of the dark prince of pleasure.
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>>4746947

The tapping of nails upon silver and the clicking of a god's tongue, greeted Huli Jing upon her arrival

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Staring down, you carefully observe the great subterranean inferno, watching it consume every inch of Huli Jing's hide and flesh. Life has fled that vessel she inhabited, but you fear she may yet exist within the world of the living. So you stood guard, arms crossed over each other, as you ensured that the beguiler of dynasties would not escape her deserved punishment and reward of death. The devil burned unusually fast, her hide burning like oil soaked paper, her flesh breaking apart like mulched wood, her bones crumbling like cheap clay. All that remained after a few minutes within the crucible of cleansing fire, were her nine tails. They burned much more gradually and ponderously. But eventually, they to were rendered to naught by ember and ash.

The fire spread to consume other fuel, when Huli Jing's corporeal form was fully consumed. Nothing was left behind beside black, wine soaked ash, tinted with flecks of gold and ember. All of her manipulation, seductions, deceptions, treachery and corruption had amounted to naught but dust, ash and spilt wine.

Smiling, a single thought ran through your mind, as the wounds you had endured finally brought you to your knees.

"Oh honored father" You thought outloud, speaking your mind plainly and truthfully "It is at last done. The dawn of a new age is upon us. A spring of hope and prosperity can finally wash over all corners of the kingdom, the dream I began at your home can at last spread and be shared unopposed by tyrants and fools"

Sighing, you keep from collapsing by using one of your arms as support, and maintain your dignity in the dim firelight of your most terrible enemy's funeral pyre.

Your wounds would heal, though a memory would be left in their place. Doubtlessly, you would walk bearing a few new scars after this night of horror. But, scars too, would eventually fade as all things eventually must. Though the cut beneath your left eye, would doubtlessly linger longer than others.

Once you had found the strength to stand yet again, you set about the work that remained to be done. After all, the Yan family and their mistress cloaked in fire, were not the only criminals that needed to be judged within this palace and the surrounding city. And there were many innocent who still remained captive or endangered by the servants and guests that remained. Much work remained, labor without end.

But you had survived to see the coming dawn. You could only hope the valiant, noble and most importantly virtuous souls who fought to bring about that dawn, would also live to see its gentle glow.
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>>4746950

What work would you set about doing first, Lieren?
>Treating and tending to the victims of the Yan still within and without the palace. See if the Faithful woman, the little girl in the woods and her father, and Fa have survived the night specifically
>Track Down Cao Yunru, to congratulate him or bury his honorable corpse. Begin work to ensure that chaos and anarchy will not consume the capital.
>Find rope, begin the hangings. Justice shall be given to the nameless dead who suffered hear, but court must be held first.
>This place is too terrible to be allowed to exist. All of it must be torn down and returned to nature. Not a single stone of the capital or palace shall be left standing
>Write in?
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>>4746952
Get a messanger out to send to our army. Inform them we had succeeded, and the demon fox lady is no more.
This is more or less important. I think some anons mentioned that the uncle might not be as bad or something. If anything it'll give everyone time to recover and celebrate before marching to the old fox.

>Treating and tending to the victims of the Yan still within and without the palace. See if the Faithful woman, the little girl in the woods and her father, and Fa have survived the night specifically
>Track Down Cao Yunru, to congratulate him or bury his honorable corpse. Begin work to ensure that chaos and anarchy will not consume the capital.
We need to ensure no more innocent and virtuous souls perish this day. We should also contact our monk friend(s) to let him know that we succeeded.
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>>4746952
>Write-In

After having cleanse ourselves, from the foulness of the palace in one of the ponds proceed to go to the city. Take over the capital, from the soldiers of the city and the citizens. Show our proof of victory and start giving orders.

- Send a messenger out to our army to deliver the victory.
- take out the servants still alive
- take out the brutalized corpses of servants and dissidents from the palace and give them burial
- take out anything that can be of use. (coins, food stuff untouched by drugs or not drowned in spices, simple furniture and equipment and so on). Anything vulgar or wicked will be left inside, so that it can be destroyed alongside the palace. The untouched palace food will be distributed to the city people, as well the nearby settlements in equal measure.
- Set up a medical camp in an open area to heal the numerous wounded palace servants, as well most of the people that got in the fights.
- Capture the wicked to give them Judgement.

When our army arrives
- Begin destroying the king palace, as well any symbol of Yang rule across the capital or the state.
- Destroy or Purify the relic weapons that used the Yang. Guozhi will be called to aid us, we will need to wait for him to arrive before proceeding, perhaps we can learn his own methods (If they can be pure again and forever, these weapons could be gifted to our loyal companions or we can keep them).
- Send other messengers outside, this time to the remaining yang vassals. An order of immediate pacification of the provinces. Last judgments and purges of the remaining corrupted and wicked lords will be done, afterwards with their surrenders. Opposition will be met by us and our army.
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>>4746952
>Track down Cao Yunru to congradulate him then take over the city, prevent chaos
Once order achieved and we have others to aid us.
>Treat the victims
Then
>Start the hangings

basically a stripped down version of >>4746967 Since if we can prevent chaos then we will have a force of people to help us take hold of the fleeing noblemen and get the aid these people need.
Destroying the palace can wait.
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>>4746952
>Write in?
>Treating and tending to the victims of the Yan still within and without the palace. See if the Faithful woman, the little girl in the woods and her father, and Fa have survived the night specifically
Seek out those we saved and make a speech to those rising in rebellion against the Tyrants, capture all those whom abused and were cruel, all of then find them and imprison them to await judgement! We leave Fa in command if he is able to do so until we return. Offer a prayer of thinks to those monks now no doubt truly gone, their hand saved many this day. Specifically keep an eye on those guards whom were with the twins, let them see the battle we fought as a warrior and maybe get in their books enough to keep the peace.

>Write in
We must make haste to where the great battle is about to go down that our friends will no lose hope and know all is well!
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>>4746973
I think the great battle will be over by the time we get there.
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>>4746950
>The tapping of nails upon silver and the clicking of a god's tongue, greeted Huli Jing upon her arrival
Fuck I'm spooked. Do you think Slaanesh destroyed Huli Jing outright or is torturing them?

>>4746967
I'll support this. It seems very reasonable and is about what we need to be doing.
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>>4746989
Probably demotion, ie having large parts of the soul torn out to weaken her for her failure.
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>>4746952
>>Treating and tending to the victims of the Yan still within and without the palace. See if the Faithful woman, the little girl in the woods and her father, and Fa have survived the night specifically
>>Track Down Cao Yunru, to congratulate him or bury his honorable corpse. Begin work to ensure that chaos and anarchy will not consume the capital.
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>>4747099
maybe in a couple thousand years we can fight it again
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>>4747124
I look forward to that rematch.
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>>4746971
This looks like the proper way to do this.

Also we need to, in the future, have an eye out for corruption like this city and any further daemonic interlopers.
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>>4746967
I support this.
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>>4746967

Will support, but also throwing my vote behind
>>Treating and tending to the victims of the Yan still within and without the palace. See if the Faithful woman, the little girl in the woods and her father, and Fa have survived the night specifically

As I feel we owe the woman/girl/father and Fa a debt that needs to be paid.
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>>4746952
>Treating and tending to the victims of the Yan still within and without the palace. See if the Faithful woman, the little girl in the woods and her father, and Fa have survived the night specifically
>Track Down Cao Yunru, to congratulate him or bury his honorable corpse. Begin work to ensure that chaos and anarchy will not consume the capital.
>Try to commune with Ghonzi and his spirit students, see if they succeded in protecting the innocents.
We can tear down the palace and hang the nobles when the rest of the army arrives.
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>>4747366
I dont actually follow your line of logic there, Fa I can see it but the girl who we protected from the 5th prince? The journey lay woman who we excavated and then healed ourselves?

What exactly do we owe them for? They deserve our help and attention but we dont owe them shit.
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Is hulu jong going to become our kabandah?
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>>4746952
>>Treating and tending to the victims of the Yan still within and without the palace. See if the Faithful woman, the little girl in the woods and her father, and Fa have survived the night specifically
>>Track Down Cao Yunru, to congratulate him or bury his honorable corpse. Begin work to ensure that chaos and anarchy will not consume the capital.
>>Find rope, begin the hangings. Justice shall be given to the nameless dead who suffered hear, but court must be held first.
>>4747423
I think we're gonna get a Ka'Bandha from each of the Chaos gods.
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>>4746952
>Treating and tending to the victims of the Yan still within and without the palace. See if the Faithful woman, the little girl in the woods and her father, and Fa have survived the night specifically
>Track Down Cao Yunru, to congratulate him or bury his honorable corpse. Begin work to ensure that chaos and anarchy will not consume the capital.
>Find rope, begin the hangings. Justice shall be given to the nameless dead who suffered hear, but court must be held first.
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>>4746952


>Treating and tending to the victims of the Yan still within and without the palace. See if the Faithful woman, the little girl in the woods and her father, and Fa have survived the night specifically
>Track Down Cao Yunru, to congratulate him or bury his honorable corpse. Begin work to ensure that chaos and anarchy will not consume the capital.
>Find rope, begin the hangings. Justice shall be given to the nameless dead who suffered hear, but court must be held first.
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>>4746952
>Treating and tending to the victims of the Yan still within and without the palace. See if the Faithful woman, the little girl in the woods and her father, and Fa have survived the night specifically
>Track Down Cao Yunru, to congratulate him or bury his honorable corpse. Begin work to ensure that chaos and anarchy will not consume the capital.
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>>4746952
>>Treating and tending to the victims of the Yan still within and without the palace. See if the Faithful woman, the little girl in the woods and her father, and Fa have survived the night specifically
>>Track Down Cao Yunru, to congratulate him or bury his honorable corpse. Begin work to ensure that chaos and anarchy will not consume the capital.
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>>4746952
>Treating and tending to the victims of the Yan still within and without the palace. See if the Faithful woman, the little girl in the woods and her father, and Fa have survived the night specifically
>Track Down Cao Yunru, to congratulate him or bury his honorable corpse. Begin work to ensure that chaos and anarchy will not consume the capital.
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>>4746950
Time for the victory dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldzzIJlKOlA
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>>4746863
I preordered the book. I am waiting on it. I kinda want to know how you go, for my Eleventh primarch quest {sorry for switching IDs back to house internet} but it's a headscratcher. This could change years of fluff in my mind. Or not. Because it's Alpharius and who really knows.
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>>4746967
Support
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Calling the vote now:

Send a messenger to your army: 6

Attempt to meet your army upon the road:1

Treating and tending to the victims of the Yan still within and without the palace (counting the part of the detailed write in concerning the victims/ surviving servants/ medical camp as part of this choice): 16

Track Down Cao Yunru, to congratulate him or bury his honorable corpse. Begin work to ensure that chaos and anarchy will not consume the capital.:10

Take over the capital, from the soldiers of the city and the citizens. Show our proof of victory and start giving orders:5

Capture the wicked to give them Judgement and begin the hangings:9

Begin destroying the king palace, as well any symbol of Yan Across the capital or state:5

Destroy or Purify the relic weapons that The Yan Used:5

Send other messengers outside, this time to the remaining yang vassals. An order of immediate pacification of the provinces:5

Try to contact Guozhi and the spirits he seemingly summoned to aid in your quest: 1

total votes: 16

So Lieren will focus foremost on treating the injured and burying the dead within and without the palace, to ensure no more shall fall victim to the fallen dynasty.

Then he will seek out Cao Yunru, to congratulate or bury his honored cadaver, and use him to help prevent the rise of anarchy and chaos.

Before finally beginning his judgement of the Yan court and their servants within the city, hanging all who have been lost to the wiles of the gospel of decadence.

Writing now

>>4748316
Based

>>4748438
It's a mystery to everyone
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>>4749272
Just letting you know its gonna be a bit longer till the update is posted

Its huge, and I'm not close to being done.

Currently over 4200 words. Hope you guys will enjoy it
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>>4749470
>over 4200 words
By the Emperor.
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>>4749470
Gonna have to add a few new scars to that.

But I legitimately think that the greatest damage to morale that shall occur it how beat up we are. Like we are never hurt, ever.
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>>4749516
True, and it's not like we can outright say the nature of what we fought other than "It was a big-ass monster"
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>>4749518
I mean. . . We COULD.
"The Yan has a beast as their puppet master, as fierce as the Toaddragon lord of all rivers or the tongue lasher, It guised itself perfectly, but now it is dead."

Or hell, just say we took on the entire palace at once. It's true and more believable even if a bit less "practical minded"
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Okay, pretty sure this is gonna be the largest update yet.

Total characters: 36, 417
Total words: 6641
Total posts: 13

Are ya ready for it? FOR ITS SHEER AND UNMATCHED GIRTH!
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Of course the most pressing matter, and the one that demanded your attention first and foremost above the other labors and duties that remained to be done, was the treatment of the still living victims and innocent servants of the Yan court and the burial of the victims of its final night. It would be arduous work, not because it was difficult or tiring, but because it would force you to once again face the numberless cruelties of reality and the tyrants that regrettably inhabit it. If anything, such merciful, kindly work would give your body time to recover and heal. Then, more physically taxing jobs could be done after your stamina has had time to return to you. After your limbs stop aching, after your head stops pounding as ferociously as your heart.

Searching through your remaining supplies, you decide which reagents and medical supplies can be allowed to your own treatment. To bind your wounds, and halt their bleeding. The best medicines and highest quality bandages shall be reserved for the direst of cases, the lowest quality and least effective of them can be set aside for your own self treatment. Your body can recover miraculously on its own, but ignoring the risk of infection be it natural or supernatural is a foolish thing indeed. As it is often said, a dying snake's venom is still as potent as when it was living.

Cleansing your wounds with dragon's spit to disinfect them, you allow the first groan of pain to escape from your lips. It's tortorous, and feels as if you've set about boiling yourself alive. The alcoholic fumes clear your head, and with a heated prod of wrought steel, you proceed to cauterize the most grievous wounds, whose number includes the gash that was a mere inch from claiming one of your invaluable golden eyes. Tears boil upon the heated piece of metal, as you set it upon the ground to cool. With such treatment, the resulting scars shall be thin and more unnoticeable than they would if they were simply stitched shut or allowed to heal on their own.

But bathing yourself in dragon's spit, while covered in open and weeping wounds, was an utterly hellish experience and one you desperately hope to never repeat again within your lifetime. Pulling off the ruin of your armor, and shedding the scorched remains of your traveling robe, you redress yourself in the plain and white regalia always kept alongside your more useful belongings and tools. It pays to prepare for any eventuality, even a sudden and forceful disrobing.

Grinning to hide the lingering pain inflicted by your own rough treatment, you gather your mane of iron hair and pull it taught into a bun atop your head. Piercing a hairpin carved of panther bone through it to hold it in place, you gather the ends of your hair and quickly tie them into loose loops and hanging braids.

The people here still think of you as a wild, untamed beast at best and a true devil from hell at worse.
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>>4749553

It will be wise to construct a more civilized and properly mannered appearance, to give your words and presences a courtly, refined air.

Having thus prepared yourself, you lay out all of your unnecessary belongings and tools near the wrecked remains of your armor and the three weapons you carried into the palace and then leave the site of your enemy's defeat, to commence your generous labors that shall accompany the rising dawn.

While you make your way through the palace's grounds, you pilfer and take any supplies that are not tainted or otherwise sullied by the Yan and their Courtiers, supplies that will supplement and bolster your admittedly thin supply of medicine and cleansing chemical. But, as is often said, in a drought every drop of water is a treasure from the heavens.

The first to be treated are the enslaved children and older servants who managed to survive the brawl outside of Yan Weizha's throne room. What remains of the wretch himself, mewls and cries discordantly, scaring your patients as you tend to their wounds and treat their numerous injuries.

Many of them will have to follow specific and carefully planned diets for many weeks to fully recover from malnutrition and starvation, but they shall all survive their terrbile service to the final Yan king. The children, who saw you slaughter their cruel task masters, follow behind you like a flock of Cliffjumper chicks, eyes filled with awe and hope as you continue retracting your path through the Celestial incarnation Palace.

A few servants hide away from you, as you approach their hiding places and carefully chosen sanctuaries within this hell upon earth. Many of them are confused, that before them walks no man eating ogre or sadistic lord of hell, but rather a kindly giant surrounded by children and dressed simply and humbly yet finely as well.

The sight encourages a score of the terrified former servants to meekly approach your strange entourage and plead for mercy or aid, a few lead you to grievously wounded peers or family members or the remains of such. Treating the injuries of those who can be saved and offering those who cannot solace and prayers, you continue on your path through the sixth palace.

The loyal guards of the twin princes, greet you with stern silence. Their eyes yet filled with spite and disgust, but now a sense of awe and relief paints their expressions. They had not imagined Huli Jing capable of being slain. Bowing to the man who was brave enough to speak to you, you leave them to mourn their masters. Who had managed to be both honorable and cruel, before their lives were cut short.

They were monster like the rest of their kin, but perhaps they were a lesser breed. One that could feel lover for one besides themselves, even if the pursuit of martial skill had turned them into cruel duelists and man slayers.
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>>4749557

"I shall have need of a valiant guard such as yourself to protect those who follow behind me, and ward away any danger to come" You say softly, gently smiling as you pass the loyal guards by "For I fear men such as yourself a far more knowledgeable of the grounds of the palace than myself. And thus will know of any dangers yet lurking within it"

"If we were to be allowed to bury own twin young masters with the dignity they deserve, then we shall lend our aid to you, oh victorious giant" the same man you spoke to earlier in the night answers, rather curtly admittedly

"I cannot hang the dead, and I have always given my enemies the proper respect afforded to them in dearh" You answer simply, keeping your head high and eyes focused ahead "If you wish to bury your fallen masters, I shall not obstruct the matter of their burial nor intrude upon your mourning. All I shall ask, is that you mind the living more than the dead"

"I thank you for this privledge, even if I find your ways detestable, I am grateful for such an allowance. And shall GIVE my word to protect those who accompany you through your palaces halls, my "liege" The man replies, his words dripping with venom and poison, but a glance at his face tells you he can be trusted to guard the innocent and defenseless, even if he finds you a detestable and honorless man.

"Weizha yet lives and I have no ambition of being a king" You answer coldly in kind, hoping to prevent the weeds of misinformation from sprouting and spreading through the minds of the common folk "The last king of Yan shall meet his end, but by my hand and my hand alone. I simply have responsibilities that take precedence over executing wretches like the pig king, tending to the weak and wounded is one of them"

"If that is what you will claim, hunter of nothing, I shall not argue with a man who could see me dead with a dismissive wave of his hand" The man replies, nodding his head as you ignore the unspoken insult he has given "I suppose them, you shall not begin your rule with trials and hangings"

"The judgement of the wicked and punishment of the vile will wait until I have finished with my chosen tasks. Healing the wounded, burying the dead, ensuring order remains. Such duties are far more important than the death of evil" You answer simply, as you leave the soldiers to mourn their masters.

Some of those who trail behind, begin to whisper and mutter among each other, theorizing and spreading rumors of the events of the night and truth of your character and existence. You wonder how many of them will go onto to paint the perceptions of future generations, and which shall spawn fantastical legends and stories of your victory against the Yan Tyrants. But such ponderings are pointless, when there is still much work left to be done.
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>>4749559

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"Tell me, Young Qilin, have you ever seen an army march so calmly?" Yan Zihao question Yin Huizhong, as he sat astride his warhorse, lazily fanning himself as he turned his eyes uncharacteristically away from the raging battle before the two generals "And in such immaculate formation?".

"No" the black haired youth answered, eyes as cold as stone "However they are not controlled by their own minds, venerable general Yan, and a single mind is far less prone to panic than thousands"

The white haired uncle of the king shut his fan and shook his head.

"Oh if only such a fanciful tale were true, that by slaying the giant we would end this rebellion, that he truly is the devil my fool of a nephew has painted him to be" Zihao laughed, old amber eyes awash with disappointment "I figured your father, Yin Aiguo, would have trained you to see the tell tale signs of an army trained into a host of warriors bold"

The young zealot remained silent, those his eyes filled with a unspoken rage and indignation. He could not speak out against a member of the royal line, his breeding and teachings would not allow him to do so

"The giant's army has always been one drafted purely of men trained for warfare, while ours have been a mixture of levies and elite regiments, as is the common sense of war" The old fox said kindly as if he spoke to a favored grandson rather than a man who would drown his own daughter if his nephew commanded it "This trained and professional force marches against scared farmers and terrified laborers, who have filled their minds with the libel and babblings of Lord Weizha"

Yin Huizhong could be heard harshly grinding his teeth beneath the snarling, armored war mask he wore. The old fox had long studied the lad, and knew well that if his father had not been the grandfather of his king, the young Qilin would have long ago attempt to take his head, white beard and all.

"And who are now forced to confront the truth, as the banners of the supposedly fallen house of Gao are raised proudly to the sunrise and the fog of morning" The old fox laughed, swinging his folded fan towards the army that marched to meet his own "A crippling blow to their already low morale. Propaganda having so tattered their hopes of success and survival, having told them they march against an army populated by devils and killing spirits and beastly men"

at last Yin Huizong could hold his tongue no longer, much to the amusement of Yan Zihao.

"A simple trick, meant to break our spirits. An army of slaves marches before us. They are no match against zeal of my house's soldiers nor the glory of the Yan Kingdom" The young general spat, spitting to the ground as he spoke his hopelessly deluded beliefs "And, if I am not mistaken, they have taken the vile Vishnu as their allies, so those tales are not mere rumor, oh honored general Yan!"

"Vishnu are men like any other" Yan Zihao countered simply
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>>4749560
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"They are not creatures of the night, nor denizens of hell, even if their manner would not be out of place amongst such company. And you continue to believe we fight against a force of thralls, by watch how the regiments are moved. That is a signature of the black general himself! What honorable men we are set against, you should raise your head, boy!"

"Tch I did not say all were unwilling among the rebels, my wayward cousin is a power hungry wretch who sold his soul for glory and prestige. And even if he commands the slave herd, we are no longer outmatched in terms of weaponry" The young fool replied thoughtlessly as his elder sighed and shook his head, and went back to fanning himself. The oppressively air of summer was ever so burdensome for a man of his age.

"If you refer to the simplistic replicas and crude imitations our elite forces have been trained to handle, then you are a far greater fool than I had first thought, boy" Yan Zihao said bluntly, smiling as his old eyes danced upon the battlefield that would hopefully become his grave.

His smile began to fade as he did not spot a single glimmer of gold among the superior force raised against him.

But it returned, renewed and fresh as he spotted the banner sporting the carp and spear. The symbol of the so called "Son of the sea". Perhaps his storied career would end by the hand of a talented novice? The old fox understood the game now. A son of Gao, assisted and given council by the great generals that had rallied beneath the Giant's cause. Yes, that would explain the obvious traits of Lai, Dai, and Southern Yin tactics fielded by this army. But the carp presented an exciting unknown.

As did the burning banners in the distance, colored Tao Yellow. He had been warned of death from the heavens, and had drawn up a few ways to counter such seemingly undefeatable weaponry.

Yet again, the young Qilin audibly grinded his teeth together.

"We shall succeed" Yin Huizong snarled "We have been commanded to achieve victory or death"

Yan Zihao laughed audaciously and grinned like a Vishnu Screaming, polished teeth gleaming in the rising sun's glare.

"Then die we shall, boy!" He barked boisterously "For the entirety of the war, we have been outmatched and outplanned, if I had not been ordered to retreat in its dawn, I could have perhaps discovered a crippling vulnerability within the tactics employed by the giant. But I had only found the goal they all march to achieve. And that of course would be taking the head of the general commanding the forces they are set against. A distaste for excessive and unnecessary bloodshed and death, even though they are my enemy, they have earned my respect and admiration"

"So is that why you had commanded me to ride alongside you at the vanguard? Instead of using the fodder we've gathered to shield our true army?" Yin Huizong snarled, eyes filled with murderous intent as his bloodlust and fury became palpable upon the air
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>>4749561

"You traitorous dog! Were you born of any other line! I would have killed you for such treachery"

"A loyal dog as ever, Yin. Though lacking wit and cunning, it cannot be said that you are not truly loyal, Yin Huizong" Yan Zihao cackled, smiling kindly at the man he had doomed to an inglorious death beside him, consumed by the opening plays of the battle "I shall not see simple men slaughtered so we may live a few minutes more, I shall not pointlessly bloody the blade of my better. It is much more dignified this way, to die without such pointless resistance"

"I shall inform the king of this treachery" Huizong hissed in reply as the old general simply shook his head and sighed disappointedly.

"The same king who has used both of us as a flimsy armor to defend himself, so he may doubtlessly spit upon the victor's face in a final act of spite?" The old fox question, affixing a judging gaze upon his subordinate's red face "And commanded us to throw away our lives pointlessly? I doubt he will have mind to hear your complaint, Yin Huizong"

"TURN COAT SCUM!" Huizong raged. The old fox merely laughed and shook his head.

"Why do you think I had sent my family away before the eve of the battle, and kept them by my side all this time? And commanded you to do the same in twilight of our kingdom? It may be my duty to die, but I shall not drag the unspoiled branches of my family with me, nor shall I allow our most loyal of our servants to be wiped out. The giant has shown he is merciful and"

"You have gone senile with age if you believe such lies, General!" Huizong barked back "And have condemned your kin and mine to a torturous end"

"I have ensured Yan unsullied by that whore's touch shall continue our lineage. Insult me as you will, but I have kindly given your line the same mercy, Yin Huizong" Yan Zihao answered serenely, at peace with his coming demise. His long white hair and beared danced upon the morning wind "However, It would be shameful to flee myself, when I have sworn oaths to ever protect and serve my brother and his line, even if the wretch who I serve slew my fool of brother years before. I have my honor, I have my face, I shall die happy but with one regret"

"What?!"" Yin Huizong gasped, perhaps shocked about the secret the old fox had carelessly spoken or curious of what regret a man of his age, standing and wealth could possibly hold.

"Why, Young Qilin, I have not seen the giant in the field! I fear I shall not be able to test my intellect against his own. That I shall be denied a final worthy foe, that I shall never be able to match my tactical genius against his own before one of his followers takes my head, as they have the Wild Boar and his lord, The Xue brothers, and that valorous lion of the east" Yan Zihao bemoaned, sighing in disappointment as Yin Huizong looked at him as if he were mad.

"You're insane!" He shouted. The old fox merely laughed.
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>>4749563


"Perhaps the years have deluded my mind, but I know my place and purpose. Even if I cannot have my legendary match with Lieren, the man who in but a mere eight nearing nine years orchestrated the fall of the Yan dynasty, I shall be content with facing against the living legends who have gathered beneath his command" Yan Zihao said happily, folding his fan yet again as he grinned with the manic energy of a man a quarter of his age "For it would be unbecoming of me to survive the reign of my family. Let my legend settle alongside our era, and let us meet a glorious end"

Yin Huizong was sweating as if beset by a killing fever.

"It is against your nature to refuse my orders, is it not? If I commanded it, you would lead your "True army" directly into the open field I have predicted will be bombarded by the devastating weaponry of the rebels, would you not? Or march to meet those "Vishnu Devils" in close quarters? Would you not? You cannot leave a member of the Yan line to walk alone and unaccompanied into hell, can you? Yin Huizong, you blind, deluded fool?" Yan Zihao sneered, his amber eyes seeming to glow in the morning's light, his polished teeth gleaming like polished silver.

The old fox, laughed and laughed and laughed.

"You decrepit devil!" Yin Huizong growled through his tightly clenched teeth

"Perhaps the sins of my life have made me a devil, but I shall die as a man. And you cannot refuse to follow me in whatever manner of suicide I deem fitting for a man of my renown and standing. Perhaps we shall look for Lai song, and test our steeds against his own stock? Or directly meet the son of the sea and see how cunning he truly is? Or maybe, a direct charge for the heart of the army, to die surrounded in a valorous last stand!" Yan Zihao mocked his subordinate "Or perhaps, we shall sit here, and give no orders and speak no commands"

Yin Huizong seethed with impotent rage, as the old fox laughed boisterously and madly, his stomach quivering as he struggled to breath between his fits of cackling and giggling.
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A sorrowful sight met you in the palace of the third prince. A grieving army of courageous servants who had thrown off the shackles of the Yan's control, to fight against the armies of the drunkard forth prince and Lunatic third. They parted before you, falling to their knees and prostrating themselves before you as you walked forward, to confirm the suspicions that had already sprouted within your mind. That the identity of the man they grieved was already known to you.

With arms folded into the sleeves of your plain robe of undyed silk, you neared the center of the mourning mask, tears burning in your eyes as you neared ever closer to the truth that awaited you. And your fears were confirmed, as you saw, laying still in the arms of crying men and women, Fa.
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>>4749568

The servants turned grieving warriors, tightly clung to their fallen leader who seemed as if he were simply dreaming a pleasant dream of the days to come. His eyes closed, his smile gentle and genial, his wild, ungroomed mud brown hair brushed aside. Blood had been smeared upon his cheek and chest. The spear head that snuffed out his noble life, s still buried in his chest.

Kneeling down, you blinked and felt tears crawl across your cheeks, as you gingerly and carefully touched the forehead of the virtuous, courageous and magnificent man who had led the abused and oppressed into a glorious revolt of their own. His malformation was hidden beneath the bedsheets his followers had taken to cover his body.

Crying, you held the cold hand of the man who should have stood by your side, to bask in the rays of the coming dawn, to partake in the prosperity and plenty soon to come. Instead, he had died undertaking a duty he had given onto himself, to lead and inspire those who had not the will to fight for themselves.

"Oh Fa, Oh beautiful Fa, Oh Magnificent Fa, Noble Fa. All I asked was to deliver a warning in my place, but you have done so much more than I had asked" You say sadly, brushing your hand across his blood smeared face and combing it through his muddy hair, tears falling upon him like rain "Oh, we met for but a brief moment, but how I wish we could have become friends true. That I could have unveiled your hidden genius, and showed to all your valorous heart. Oh you brave man, you courageous soul. All I asked of you was that you save as many lives as you were able, and you took such initiative, to throw away your own life in exchange for others. Oh Poor Fa, How I wish I could have called you my brother!"

Raising your head, you see all the sorrowful eyes of Fa's ragtag army have turned to look upon you, feeling the same pain that you did. Bowing their heads again, they began to pray for the man who did so much more than was asked, than what was required of him.

Then, a small boy, with the same muddy hair and freckled face, shrunken thin by starvation, commanded your attention with the determined look in his eye. A woman, his mother, with darker hair, followed close behind him as the little boy boldly approach.

"No, no, don't bother him. We aren't worthy to speak to such a man, my love" The woman whispered as the boy approached you and snorted

"You were uncles friend?" He asked, seemingly ignorant of your reputation and identity, a fact that brought a smile back to your sorrowful face.

"I'd be honored to be known as the friend of man of such quality as your uncle, but I cannot say if he considered me such" You answers gently, as the boy smiles and nods

"Uncle told me he was happy to die for your dream, after he died" The boy says proudly as his mother frets and pulls his ear
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>>4749569

"Great Lieren doesn't need to hear such nonsense Yingjie!" The woman scolded the boy, who barely reacted to her presence or words, as you wilted inside by how she addressed you "I am sorry my liege, my lord most benevolent and wise, he is but a scared child, confused and saddened by the loss of his"

"Let him speak" You rudely interrupt, as the boy flicks his tongue out to his own mother impudently "As you were saying, bold Yingjie, Nephew of Fa?"

Crossing his arms in an almost challenging display, the young boy raised his head and looked to match your gaze. He only endured it for a few moments, but that is far longer than most men grown can withstand looking directly into your golden eyes.

"Uncle turned blue and foggy like the old uncles that came shouting and chanting, he told me he was proud to die like he did, that he had no regrets. He told me to find and tell you, since he was worried you'd be sad when you learned he had died, and thought he wasn't worthy to be mourned by a man of your standing" The boy says, trying to match your own tone in a childish attempt to make himself seem as impressive and important as yourself.

But he had no need to puff out his chest and act as if he were, for even at such a young age, he was your peer in boldness and courage at the very least.

"Oh but he was, he was worthy of far more than just my grief" You laugh, wiping the tears still lingering upon your cheeks with the back of your sleeve "Come, Yingjie, I would feel more certain in my safety if a brave man such as yourself were to guard me in my travels through this place"

The boy beamed, think you serious. Chuckling warmly, you turned to his mother.

"And I have much to speak to you as well, but I shall allow you to bury your most valiant of kin, and mourn his passing. I shall not press the matter until the wounds left behind from his departure of this life have healed" You say to her, with a hand upon your heart "I shall take my leave, to continue my healing work"

Rising to your feet, you turn one last time to Fa, and bow your head.

"And Fa, should you return to live upon Shangrala once again. I shall find you, and right this mistake of fate. Your new life shall be spent by my side, whatever form it may be. And if you do not, I shall find you in death, alongside all the others who have left this wonderful dream before myself" You say joyously as his nephew, Yingjie, walks confidently by your side, arms still crossed like some great and prideful fighter straight out of the theater.

You could only hope, the other wayward travelers you have met as your first great journey neared its end, have not shared in noble Fa's sad fate.
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Entering the forest once stalked by the fourth prince and his toadies, you found a rather dreadful sight. Wicked soldiers and guards, who had attempted to flee with bounties of women, wealth, wine, and slaves, butchered and scattered like broken dolls.
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>>4749570

Your flock of liberated servants, laborers and turn coat guards, stopped and refused to follow you forward as you carefully studied and admired the bloody scene.

Without a doubt, this was the work of the mutated men steeds ridden by the decadent dogs of the Yan. And sure enough, a familiar, quiet cry of joy erupted from the woods. And lo there road the daughter of the man who overcame the beast he had become, riding upon the shoulders of her degenerated progenitor, who though he had been made something less than a man, could still be called human. For humanity came in many forms, both mundane and strange.

And behind the pair, road the other steeds, seemingly tamed by the daughter of their alpha. Though their eyes shone with the light of intelligence, they could not speak clearly and could only gurgle and spit out fragments of words, their minds dulled by the constant flow of narcotics and fouler chemicals yet. But they were free. and while they may be closer to simpletons than they were before, they had reclaimed their minds and will however lessened they may have become.

"Uncle grey hair! Uncle grey hair!" She chirped happily, as she hugged her father's mishappen head "Look, look, father caught more villains and punished them good! See, see?!"

Such was her youthful innocence, she did not understand that the villains around her were dead, rather than simply sleeping. Smiling mirthfully, you nod and laugh, gesturing to the strange group to the bewilderment of your gathered audience.

"Do you see? This young girl's father and his fellows have done a portion of my work for me. They have punished the sinful servants of the foxes as they fled the palace like rats upon a sinking ship" You say cheerfully as Fa's nephew boldly walks forward, trying to hide how deeply the mere sight of the twisted men before him terrifies him to his core.

"Admirable work, fellow uh...comrade of the giant" He says meekly as the girl looks at him, bemused yet happy to see a friend close to her own age.


"Fffffaaaanhk Oooouuuh" The girl father says, padding closer to you as he wears a drooling smile "Fanhk ouh, fhor prauughtactenh urgg"

"You alone saved your daughter, my good sir, there is no need to thank me. I am merely overjoyed to see a family reunited amidst such horror. I can only hope I shall one day become as fine of a father as yourself. Rest, and be at peace, the dawn of a kinder age is to come. And I promise I will do all I am able to alleviate your condition" You say, as the ape like man whimpers and grunts, trying to cry.

You are pulled into a powerful hug by the man, as his daughter giggles and pats his head like it were a drum.

"So such creatures are worthy of your mercy then?" The loyal guard of the twin prince's spits.

You ignore him and choose instead to focus on the good you have done this night, rather than all of the death you have sown.
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>>4749571

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<https://youtu.be/9k1F3PjY948>

"A little calf, taken from her flock. Oh beloved child, separated from her fellows, I have returned to your side yet again, so we may leave this awful place together" You sing to the brutalized young woman you met at beginning of the night, as the army "As I have promised, I have not abandoned nor forsaken you. The time has come to abandon the nightmare that was, and awaken to the gentle light of the coming dawn"

Reaching towards you, with her mangled stumps of hands, her few remaining fingers outstretched in loving awe as she tries to kneel before you. Her twisted, crippled legs struggling to support her weight, her stitched together arms struggling to move as she commands them to. She cannot stand, and can only drag and push her ruined legs. Her tattered, torn lips break into a smile as her single eye glows with incomprehensible joy beneath the mass of bandages that cover her.

Her fellow victims begin to cry and sob openly, they thought themselves inured to the horrors of the palace, but the mere sight of this unfortunate young woman has proven otherwise.

Shaking your head, you softly press her hands together as if in prayer, and join her for a moment in her chanting. Tears wet the bandages covering her face as you take her into her arms, and carry her from the Celestial Incarnation Palace. Her slurred, barely spoken words, inspire the thousands to follow you from this place to sing in her place.

Kind Golden Eyes greets the morning sun, as an era free of the Yan's Tyranny begins.
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Following the scent of gunpowder, you find Cao Yunru deep beneath the capital city. He's injured, and lays still besides several agressors that wreak of Huli Jing's particular foulness, and are tattooed with the same sigil that had once been carved into the forehead of the faithful Luli, as the girl who still lay in your arms was named. She blinked, and pressed her hands together slowly, intending to pray for the scholars lost soul.

The only problem was he was merely sleeping, and resting after being grievously injured. You knew the man had valor within his coward's heart, but you could not have possibly anticipated that he'd be made sturdy enough to treat his own wounds as you had earlier. It was a queer feeling, underestimating someone, a most queer feeling indeed. But it did not feel shameful, rather you felt happy that you could also make mistakes in judging a man's character.

Cao Yunru snored, and Luli pouted in embarrassment, struggling to whisper apologises as You approached your sleeping friend and sighed heavily. No, you were mistaken, upon closer inspection, he could not have treated his wounds himself. Someone else must have judging by how the bandages are tied. However, it is still impressive that he managed emerge victorious against clearly better trained, and much larger fighters than himself.
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>>4749572

That to, is worthy of respect.

"Cao Yunru, awaken!" You command, raising your voice just enough to rouse the scholar from his sleep

"Lieren? Have we succeeded, or perhaps are we both dead and in hell for going against the wishes of the heavenly courts?" The scholar asks, still half asleep as he turns his exhausted eyes towards the source of your voice

"Damn what the heavens think of our deeds, our actions of the prior night were moral and good. If they would decry such virtue, I would curse them with all my fervor, that is, if gods do indeed exist at all. Of which I am doubtful, considering the sights I have seen" You answer, speaking as though you were talking to an old friend, casual and merry "Rise from the ground, a man of your stature should not linger in the dust and filth"

"Ah, that is most reassuring, I would not be able to meet my father if I had failed to undo my great folly" The spindly, short, yet no longer meek scholar laughs as he stands to his feet, leaning towards his injured side as he winces and fails to hide his pain "So it is done then? has the horror come to an end? Are we free from the Yan's Tyranny? Is the dawn coming?"

"Why would I be speaking to you if we were not, had I failed, I'd be too ashamed to speak to you even as a ghost" You sneer, the man laughing at your confident humor, the shock of your words assisting in waking him completely.

"Fantastic, I can finally rest well again" He says, reaching to shake your hand, before he notices Luli laying in your arms. Their eyes meet, and his expressions falls.

"Is...is she one of their...victims?" Cao Yunru asks, guilt pouring from his every movement and word.

You nod. The scholar falls to his knees, wailing and crying, begging for forgiveness as Luli shakes her head and tries to tell him there is no need to ask for such a thing, that she doesn't blame what had happened to her upon his inaction. He of course cannot understand a word of it, and you have to read her lips to understand what she intends to say.

"My friend, you are not at fault. How could you have learned the true nature of those you served? Your shame is undone, the mistake is righted, the folly has been mended, rise to your feet, Lord Cao, and let us begin our work to ensure the coming dawn is better than the night that proceeded it" You say sternly, as the man cries and wails, smacking his forehead against the floor several times in a show of great guilt and shame.

"Of course, of course, but by my cowardice, many crimes and wicked deeds have been allowed to be carried out, redemption is still beyond my grasp. I have much work to do, to undo all of the ill I have done" Cao Yunru says stoically, rising to his feet, with tears streaking down his cheeks and a red welt upon his forehead "Tell me my place in the new era, and I shall begin my journey towards true redemption. Lead me to the forgiveness I crave, teach me how to forgive myself for my weakness, Wise Lieren"
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>>4749573

"As the one noble I trust within the walls of this city, you have a key roll to play. The duty I shall now entrust to you, is one of utmost importance. The responsibility you bear will be grave indeed" You say simply, standing before the needlessly remorseful scholar "For you, Cao Yunru, will be aid me in ensuring that anarchy will not follow the fall of the foxes, to keep chaos from spreading through the capital and beyond. With your social standing, and face, we shall maintain order and peace, and begin the judgement of the evil and wicked men who yet remain here"

"I shall be honored to do, Lieren. To be honored by privledge of your trust a second time, is the second greatest joy of my life" He says, crying tears of joy now. You can tell by a single glance, that the greatest joy of his life was being married to his wife. How simple of a man he is, its touching that such a mundane yet joyous day holds more importance in Cao Yunru's heart than anything else

"Then, let us begin the judgment of the Yan court" You say solemnly, as Luli puts her hands together and begins chanting mantras from the journey, to take her focus away from the unimaginable pain she must still endure
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How shall the trial be held, Lieren?
> Cao Yunru, will be your figure head. Let him be remembered as the peacemaker, as you leave to do other business
>A council of the downtrodden shall decide the fates of their oppressors. You shall remain an observer of the proceedings.
>Hold Trial personally, and interrogate all accused oh harboring the corruption and vileness that had ruined the Yan Kingdom for generations?
>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privledge afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?
>write in

So yeah, spent awhile writing this.
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>>4749575
>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan
Let the world see how far the Yan have fallen.
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>>4749575
Old fox, Wily fox, I desperately hope you survive.
And as for you old guard, get over yourself.

A question malal, how quickly could we sprint to the battle field?
If it's within an hour or two, my vote is
>Cao Yunru, we need to get the injured in a safe place to recover and join our friends

If it's about 5 to 8, then
>Show the world the crimes of the Yan, Ask if this is the work of a rightful ruler.
>Let Cao Yunru be the judge, but advise him of their crimes/lies/truths and so on.

Because that council of downtrodden ain't gonna do anything more than enact revenge.
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>>4749575
>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privledge afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?
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>>4749582
Hey wait, a council of down trodden with a figure head? That's a court proceedings.

Fuck I'm changing that second "to far away to be of any help" vote to being an advisor/truth detector, having a Cao be the judge and downtrodden being the jury. Still showing them the evils and all.
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>>4749582
>>4749591
Longer than 8 hours.

You have to realize, Lieren's horse is easily able to outpace and outmaneuver any other of its kind, WHILE its weighed by his huge ass. Imagine how much faster it could go without Lieren sitting on its back, how much longer it could ride without while unburdened by the weight of a young primarch.

It really is a monstrous thing, and rather incredible as well. It is basically the horse version of Cui Fu, the product of generations and centuries of Eugenics to create the biggest and baddest motherfucker on Shangrala.

Lieren prefers to act as efficiently as possible, he is a primarch and can sprint really fucking fast and has huge reserves of stamina and energy, boundless compared to mere mortals.

And he still choose to ride his horse unless he's heading somewhere so dangerous the magnificent creature would be at risk of dying.

Like Cui Fu was the single man who has yet been able to strike Lieren in an honest battle to the death, the Horse is the only mortal thing that you have encountered that could in theory beat him in a race.
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>>4749604
What sorta shit have these motherfucjers been up to?!

But also, I feel the need to make it a priority to ensure that Feng gets to breed with some of Lai's best damn mares. We cant let this beast be the last of his kind.
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>>4749610
Remember, it took Lieren to kill Cui Fu. The Carps weren't nothing to fuck with.
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>>4749575
>>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privledge afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?
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>>4749627
With this new shit about how seriously they took their horses, I am no longer so sure that the Carpson could best Cui fu. Like I used to think that Jinhai would at least match him but now. . .
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>>4749575
>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privledge afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?
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>>4749575
>Cao Yunru, will be your figure head. Let him be remembered as the peacemaker, as you leave to do other business
>Enter meditation and spiritually assist the army against Zihao
Zihao did nothing wrong.
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>>4749516
based mega update
>Hold Trial personally, and interrogate all accused oh harboring the corruption and vileness that had ruined the Yan Kingdom for generations?
>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privledge afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?
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>>4749575
>>Hold Trial personally, and interrogate all accused oh harboring the corruption and vileness that had ruined the Yan Kingdom for generations?
>>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privilege afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?
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>>4749638
A good warrior needs a good horse. Before Lieren came, The Cui and the Lai were rather close and for very good reason. The Cui raised men like the Lai raised horses. When a Cui man needed a warhorse, the Lai were the only ones who could breed one to their standards.

Which got higher and higher each generation. Fuck, Cui Fu would have considered both Kamakashi and Akanksha as having the minimal requirements for being even considered to be taken as a bride.

There's a reason the other nobles in the conspiracy felt that they NEED Cui Fu on their side to even have a chance to take down the Giant who killed the fucking Toad Dragon, which had spent centuries eating people, including Vishnu.

Lieren hated the guy, and he still felt it was a tragedy that Cui Fu died. The death of Cui Fu and the Cui bloodline is what inspired Lieren to codify his world view and philosophy into what became the Journey.

"Thoughts of death and legacy cloud your mind, like grime catching between the wheel and axel slowing or otherwise utterly stopping the cart, so to do these thoughts slow and muddy the progress of your thoughts, impeding your planning and careful calculations for the future. It is not ego, pride or fear that nurtures and grows these grim thoughts, but rather a realization. Brought about by the extinction of the line of Cui and the end of generations upon generations of labor and work. All crushed and wiped away in a single lifetime."

And recall a portion of one of the Core five tenants of the journey

"A warrior may die, but his final breath can change the course of nations."

The last lord of the Cui, despite being a horrible piece of shit, lasting impact, is that he and his families work amounting to nothing impacted Lieren enough for him to choose to create a measure to ensure his own work wouldn't meet the same end.

No one but Lieren will ever know it, but for all of the suffering and ill the Cui caused their lands and the people who lived upon them, their endless seeking of strength and martial prowess has had the butterfly effect of leading Lieren to create the Journey, changing the fate of Shangrala and the galaxy beyond.

All because a bunch of assholes decided to become chinese spartans and only breed with the strongest men and women. They weren't even actively trying to utilize eugenics, Cui Fu legitimately thought, as all his predecessors did, that hardship and suffering would produce strength. They never realized they were strong, not because they made their lands a place that could starve a tyranid it was so harsh, but because they only bred with the peak of humanity. Over, and over, and over again.

The final result of this was a guy who without any augmentations, warp mutations, gene therapy or anything else that makes humans tough as nails in warhammer, could survive fighting a primarch for 30 seconds.

Lieren may have been younger than he is now, and thus smaller and weaker. But how many space marines can claim that honor?
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>>4749575
>Hold Trial personally, and interrogate all accused oh harboring the corruption and vileness that had ruined the Yan Kingdom for generations?
>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privledge afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?
Time to convert everyone to the journey.
Also the Yan uncle is based as fuck, holy shit. I hope he make it out alive so we can meet him.
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>>4749679
And Cui Fu continues to be the best boy.
Had we only landed outside of their castle, perhaps things would have been different.
But than again the village of nothing would have starved to death. Better this way.
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>>4749575
>>Hold Trial personally, and interrogate all accused oh harboring the corruption and vileness that had ruined the Yan Kingdom for generations?
>>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privledge afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?
Guess we're adding Luli to the DaoT prosthesis waitlist.
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>>4749679
I wonder.
Then eventually the line would have died anyway, since their standards would become impossible to meet beyond inbreeding, which in turn would produce inferior products.

But part of me does wish to see Lieren raised by Cui fu, though I think the option for that was selecting the "crashed in a warrior nobles house" option.
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>>4749737
>Lieren raised by Cui fu
We'd be tied down and forced to impregnate every amazon in Yan so that the Cui line might become even more the ubermenschen they saw themselves as.
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>>4749841
>>4749737
>>4749700
The unseen master showed a glimpse of a Cui Lieren, alongside a Tao Lieren, a Lieren who never left the wilds and another potential version of the 2nd.

Here I'll copy the Cui Lieren bit here so you don't have to go looking for it.

"Another Lieren stands before you, dressed in armor the style of the Cui, Red and grey, finer than Cui fu's own Regalia of War. Your doppelganger's face is covered in numerous, deep scars and has allowed a ragged beard to grow over his face. His golden eyes shine with amused malice, as he presses a hooked blade through the shoulder of a kneeling, and humbled Lai Song. The Banner of Yin Lei lays upon the Mock Lieren's shoulders, a show of utter disrespect to a defeated foe, a foul trophy adorned with an even darker one, a human skull cast in iron. The same contempt the last lord of the Cui showed to the weak, dripped from this doppelgangers expression.

With a flick of his wrist, this mock Lieren slit Lai songs throat with ease, with another hooked blade. The army before him broke and scattered as he cried out "For the Cui! ONWARDS TO OUR VICTORY"

The rage that lie inspired, drove you to step fully onto the burning slab of stone and crouch onto it, to push all of your weight ontop of it. How dare it besmirch your vision with such insulting visions, how dare it think such a trick would fool your eyes."

>>4749737
Actually that choice would've led to a choice between the four "Pillars" of Gao, to choose which one was lucky enough to have a primarch land on their lawn.

Instead, Nothing got him, and 2nd became Lieren and a pretty cool dude. Instead of the humorless, cold hypocrite that canon 2nd was, according to Fulgrim at least
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>>4749575
Hurray! Fa reincarnated! We'll meet him once more.

>>4749575
>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privledge afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?
>Ask one of the guards if they can tell us where all the clinics, drug stores, and other places of medical importance exists.
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>>4749841
Lieren raised by Cui Fu would be so overpowered in combat it's almost a joke. Lieren is pretty fucking strong, but he also spent a lot of time being an administrator, scientist, philosopher, etc, etc.

But an Lieren raised just to think about combat? Dude would probably be able to destroy a hive tyrant with a butter knife and a loin cloth.
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>>4749575
>>Hold Trial personally, and interrogate all accused oh harboring the corruption and vileness that had ruined the Yan Kingdom for generations?
>>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privledge afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?
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>>4749889
Speaking of Fa, i'm pretty sure his nephew is a psyker. I mean, he saw him as a ghost, right? That was something that only Monks and Lieren were able to do.

I don't know how long it'll be until the emperor arrives, but if it's less than a decade, then i'm pretty sure that Boy would have Librarian Potential.
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>>4749582
+1 from me, support

>>4749882
Will we get to meet Cui's reincarnation one day?
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>>4749905
Cui Fu was cool, but if we're following Shangrala Reincarnation rules, he would have to spend a looong time as lower lifeforms before becoming a human.

Cui Fu, the World's Buffest Beetle Spinoff when?
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>>4749882
I remembered that, though on reflection I think the unseen master was just trying to annoy us or drive us to rage by showing us murdering our friends, since why would we murder Lai Song?
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>>4749911
He was fighting for the Cui, right? I'm guessing that's just Cui Lieren taking over the land as some sort of Warlord.

I mean, he really *would* be an ogre in that reality, wouldn't he?
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>>4749904
>Speaking of Fa, i'm pretty sure his nephew is a psyker. I mean, he saw him as a ghost, right?
You got me sold on him being a psyker or at least in touch enough with the warp to see them, but I'm pretty sure the ghosts monks were super visible.
If this kid does turn out to be a psyker, his willpower will be near indomitable. A little kid could star into Lieren's eyes longer than most adults.pretty impressive dont you think?

>>4749908
Oh yeah, he was an asshole. We wont be seeing his reincarnation anytime soon.
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>>4749918
Lai and Cui were on good terms before Lieren put paid to that end, because they had similar interests and Cui needed Lai for their horses and the Lai want the unkillable warriors of Cui to have an active interest in their survival.
And yeah, Ogre Lieren would exist.
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>>4749921
Not really. I don't think it's a sign of will, so much as having little or nothing to hide combined with being comfortable about being observed.

Yin lei, Jinhai, Feng can do it even Lai song was able to hold our gaze for a minute.
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>>4749575
>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privledge afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?
>When the time comes you shall be one of the great minds that helps lift Shangrala into an age of prosperity never before seen
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Hey, am i the only one who thinks we shouldn't go full reddit atheist like daddy dearest, emperor? If we do, our populace will most certainly fall to the imperial cult. We don't need an cultural revolution like Mao, you know?

We should just denounce the whole idea of allowing someone to rule you just because they claim to have the mandate of heaven.
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>>4749990
We never thought to denounce or outlaw belief in the courts of heaven. We simply have no more evidence of them being real vs reincarnation or simple oblivion.

We're not going to go "Murder the false believer" on any faith and rather just offer our journey to others as our world view. And if someone asks us, do we believe in the courts our answer will probably be an honest "I don't know"
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>>4749990
I'd be down to change the "Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?" to something like "Raise the question would the heavenly courts choose such cruel and selfish people to rule?" Implying to the commoners that the Yan's rule was based off of a lie would ensure that any loyalists would find little support among the masses.
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>>4749679
I can't remember if Cui Fu's body was cremated or not.
If there's still viable genetic material of him left, I feel like we should get a sample.
Even if Lieren can't actually do anything with it, there's others that could.
I'm sure the Emperor at the very least would be interested in a lineage such as Cui's.
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>>4750102
I think we buried him, so whatever material may be left might not be in the best shape.
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>>4749990
So far the proof we have of the heavenly court are the daemons giving divine mandate to Yan, to the mountain people and slaving the tiger people.
On the other hand we have proof that reincarnation and spirits are real and that the journey has metaphysical strenght.
So maybe we will turn Shangrala to space buddhist instead of space confucian/taoist, and hindu and islamic when we get to conquer the Vishnu and the Shunni.
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>>4750120
We don't have any proof of reincarnation. Our spiritual friend says it is possible, but we have only seen proof of souls.

Oh, and we are gonna have a Looooong talk with Ghuzi about that soul shit.
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>>4750120
Shit, I deleted parts of the phrase.
I menat to say that all the proof we have that they would be real is that daemon are ruling from the shadows, so they either are the daemons, or past heroes and leaders that have been culturaly immortalized and chaos is twisting that for their own gains.
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>>4750109
>I think we buried him, so whatever material may be left might not be in the best shape.
So long as his bones are intact, we have plenty of time to crack them open and get a sample.
Imagine the man you could make with Cui's body and, for example, Jinhai's intellect.
If such a man lacked a "soul", more the better. We could use a few Blanks around to ensure Chaos is snuffed out on this planet.
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>>4750130
Yeah, we really need to talk to him
I really want my reincarnated psyker almagation adopted son
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>>4750144
Might wind up being a good choice for Head Librarian if he reincarnates before Dad shows up.
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>>4750144
Yep.

It's a shame that we wont meet the old fox. A true shame.
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What we are going to do with Luli? I don't want to waste such an incredible will, but i can't think of anything where she could be of use.
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>>4750214
Let her live her life after treatments. If she insists, I guess she could have a task wandering the kingdom of Yan spreading the journey and until she has her treatments, do it from a school setting.
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>>4749575
>Hold Trial personally, and interrogate all accused oh harboring the corruption and vileness that had ruined the Yan Kingdom for generations?
>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privledge afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?

We should not show any artifact or corpse that could corrupt people, but still bring enough evidence that no Shangralan will ever pray to the "heavenly courts". This will allow us to solve the chaos religion issue and destroy any supporters the Yan could still have within the city (and beyond, as the news spread). Then we hang the corrupted fuckers around here.
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>>4749575
>Hold Trial personally, and interrogate all accused oh harboring the corruption and vileness that had ruined the Yan Kingdom for generations
>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privledge afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?
I want it on the official record that the Yan and their way of life was nothing but debauchery and sin.
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>>4750214
We can inducte her into the new Dai monastery when we eevive the order.
The reincarnated baby will need to come out of somewhere, her strong will may be enough for an imaculate conception. Otherwise we will have to see if Khazeon has the means to create a flesh clone, sinse clones don't have souls in 40k
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>>4750302
It's gonna be generations before we get any monks to reincarnate, and certainly not any of the original Dai monks.
All that was left was echos, and I think our little stunt with the ghost army used all that up.
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>>4750309
Malal said that we can fusion the echoes into something new, probably a singular new soul, that's were the mini-emperor son idea came from.
The revived order can be something for the future, a way for Shangrala to regulate psykers without being grimdark. And a new religous option besides the journey since we are gonna end up dismantling the commoners faith in the heavenly courts and divine mandate.
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>>4750309
It did something important for the reincarnation circle, it stablished that life beyond death exists, as an undeniable fact. The warp is all about what people believe and faith, and if we reinforce and channel it properly, we'll be able to take the souls of the dead from Chaos. I know that Emps gets most of the souls of humanity, but for those good humans he cannot help, the Journey's "auxiliary" philosophy to the Imperial Truth (no way that people are taking the Journey as their first and foremost way of living when Emps is still around) could offer a chance to obtain salvation
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How is the imperial truth going to fly with lieren now that he knows souls / Daemons / Reincarnation exists and is real.
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>>4750320
The monks will follow the Journey as soon as they are created, like the extremely selective perpetual psyker that adhered immediately upon reading it. The problem about this setting and creating the best possible philosophy is that having more than one brings a 100% sure civil war. That's why we are making the Journey as good and compatible with humanity as possible, because that way, it can coexist with anything good and beneficial while rejecting anything too damaging to be really worthy.
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>>4750363
Yeah, they will given how eagerly Guonzi embraced it, but the journey seems way more like a philosophy and way of life than an actual faith and religion.
What I was triyng to say is that a divergent monk order that believes in reincarnation, and probably mixes some of their old traditions with the journey precepts could act as a more religious branch, for people that are more into the faith aspect of a belief than following a rigid a code of rules.
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>>4749575
backing this >>4749582
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>>4750407
>Philosophy and way of life more than a faith and religion

That's what a religion is, Philosophy and a way to live according to that philosophy.
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>>4750449
I thought religions had to be systems of faith and worship of a higher power.
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>>4750471
Lgbt and blm shows what one in religion and a cult anyway.
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>>4750471
Not a higher power per se, but typically some higher principle like great wisdom [Buddishm].

I mean when you get down to it, Christianity is "Be nice to other people and follow these rules" which is almost exactly what our journey is.
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>>4750694
>Christianity is "Be nice to other people and follow these rules"
Watered down modern "christianity", sure.
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>>4750726
It's still classified as a religion, however watered down.
Even if you don't water it down, it doesn't change the basic premise of "Jesus said things that were good, follow them." and even before you have the 10 commandements and the wisdom of god to guide you, just with more plauges for defying him.
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>>4749575
Magnificent update !
It did take some time, but here is the Gao. Of course there is a new Gao family on the rise, so i decide to change it a bit with a red pink of sort. Also by taking another couple of dragons, and rifles. Even if they look more like hand cannons.
Continue like this.


>>4749516
Oh i intend it as a marine the one with the cup, maybe i could change colors around too.


>>4750189
Who knows, perhaps it could be captured. But is likely he will die in battle, depends on many things really.


>>4750214
For the moment let her rest, afterwards when she is rested and maybe has some prosthethics we can ask her if she desires to do anything in particular. While also offering her our own options.

When we have secure Kazeon mountain and started the exscavation, maybe we can have her limbs restored there. We can probably learn it from Kazeon too, so it shouldn t be a problem for location. We will need her for help with technology, even if it can probably help us in just about everything (teaching, administration ecc). Which is quite useful, if we want to make Yang not just prosper but advance even more than with Lieren guide and his scholars.


>>4749904
I think the imperium will still need some time before they arrive. Not long ago, we had a real time update of what our legion was doing at the same time of Lieren and they where fighting on Terra. Safe to say it will still take several decades before they arrive, solar system unification was mostly a difficult affair. Then they need to push out of there. So we should have time for repair Yang and then get advantages, over the other states before continuing in the liberation of the world. Then we can gift our peoples the stars themselves and continue this golden age, before we inevitably encounter the imperium.


Btw it s cool to see Kolinasi quest going. I like the symbol wave they made, the meme and even the legion schemes.
Also the write anon that drops some pieces of lore, nice too.
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>>4751053
It was you that inspired me art anon, if this one was getting banners and paint schemes, our brother quest deserved it too.
But the real hero is the writeanon, dude keeps pumping out high quality lore like a madman.
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>>4751053
>>4751073
Oh fuck, forgot to say good work.
So excellent job as always.
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>>4751073
I am happy to hear that !
That s true, they do deserve some images for the quest, and you did a good thing in doing them.
Yeah he is almost a train with no brakes from what i have read.

>>4751081
Np and thanks
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>>4750361
Empy s probably going to tell Lieren to keep hush about that or try to trick him into thinking they're actually something else
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>>4750361
We'll probably suffer a "hunting accident".
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>>4749575
>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privledge afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?
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>>4751053
It does depend on many things, yes.

Anyway the yellow skin, golden eyes and iron hair kinda misled me. But it's neat.
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>>4750214
I say we should adopt her. It may not be what. Primarch does, but she’s show. Incredible will power, an appreciation for our teachings, and it would make our father happy when we return to nothing.
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>>4751889
How old is she? I know that the daughter of the slaved beast man is a child, but what about her?
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>>4751896
She's a proper woman from what the descriptions tell us. Hardly someone suitable for adoption.

>>4751889
I'm against this idea simply for the idea that there is no reason for it. She needs to be tended to, but nothing about becoming a daughter/sister simply because she was tortured and held to her convictions.
We should have adopted Yin and Jinhai if that was so.
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>>4749575
>Hold Trial personally, and interrogate all accused oh harboring the corruption and vileness that had ruined the Yan Kingdom for generations
>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privledge afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?
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>>4751906
Yeah, if she was a child or teeanger adoption could help. Probably not by us, but ours magical eyes could find good parents and caretakers.
Can't set a precedent of Lieren adopting anyone in need, otherwise we will end up with more sons than our legion.
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>>4751958
Everyone, not anyone.
The other typos aren't so bad.
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Can we hold a trial personally to show people how we want it done and then leave it to cao and a council while we reconvene with our army?
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>>4751970
We aren't going to arrive in the for the battle, so might as well prepare everything here in the city so our army can march as triumphant liberators instead of meeting resistance.
Don't worry about the old man, there's nothing we can do to determine if they live or die at this point.
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>>4751979
For fuck sakes we can use our mind powers to connect to people from afar.
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>>4752112
That still doesnt get us to the battle.
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>>4751958
>>4751906
>>4751896
Ah, she seems teenage to me, but I might have just read things wrong cause I was speed reading to catch back up.

I’m still down to at least tending and taking her on a disciple, giving Lieren some close connection to mortals will keep him humble (no matter what a man can forget his connection with others. Especially a man built like Lieren who will be surrounded by his gene sons.)

Focusing on our schools I think may be the best route once the craziness is done, though Papa E is just as likely to drop down any day now to say “Aye come on”
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>>4752120
We don’t need to.
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>>4752161
>Close connections will keep him mortal
Yin lei, Gao daiyu, Ghizao, father Weyan, Tao Dandan, Jinhai, Lai song, Feng, just all the brothers of the Panther, all of nothing, Cao Yunru, need I go further?

But I dont think we have the benefit of being able to focus on only one thing, but it's all on the list of shit to do.

>>4752189
Then I dont get your comment, since that seems to be a refutation of "we cant get there". But I agree, the battle will be fine without us.
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>>4752112
So far the only one we managed to properly talk to was Guonzi, and he iniciated it.
We will have to sit down and spend a bunch of time until we learn to send telephatic messages instead of connecting with people and empowering them, as they empower us.
But no one else wanted for my vote to try and talk to our monk friend, so whatever.
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>>4752207
We will train psyker powers AFTER we deal with all the urgent life-or-death bullshit. Maybe your vote was ignored because telephatic abilities are not a priority, so whatever, whatever indeed
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>>4751970
We are here, we judge the criminals. In time, when this abused slaves are not judging their torturers right after being torured, we will stablish a proper, Primarch-level Law and Justice system. If we put Cao as a Judge, he will either punish all to avoid sparing any evildoer (Lieren can see who is salvagable and who isn't, others can't), or be too soft out of fear of hurting more innocents. This would cause the slaves to riot because rapist slavemaster 402 was spared by someone that is not an superintelligent, benevolent demigod with truth-vision.
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>>4752391
I didn't want to train, just talk to him.
But in hindsight my post ended up sounding salty, so far enough.
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>>4752452
No problem man. Btw does Malal run today?
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>>4752586
he kinda goes when he can seems like
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>>4752586
Malal doesn't have a posting schedule, the update happens when it happens.
Ironically, this more anarchic way of qming is very fitting to his namesake.
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>>4752780
Something can be either fitting or ironic, it can't be both at the same time. The two terms are mutually exclusive.
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>>4749575
>>Hold Trial personally, and interrogate all accused of harboring the corruption and vileness that had ruined the Yan Kingdom for generations?
>>Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan, and question all accused if this is the work of a rightful ruler, if this is the privledge afford by the heavens. Raise the question, why serve the heavenly courts, if this is the nature of their chosen kings?
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I think we should hold the trial with a council to show the world we are not going to be a sole ruler and tyrant. Have our comrades join us in council and vote and what happens our vote going last because we don't want to taint the views of others.
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>>4753376
It can if you’re the god of contradictions.
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So welcome the army and then hold trial.
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>>4754645
No, because the army is still fighting.
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>>4754645
More like hold trial like we always do but in larger scale, preach about how shit divine mandate is and than welcome the army if they arrive on time.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait, it was my birthday and I got shitfaced.

Show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan: 18

Council of downtrodden: 1

Let Cao Yunru be the judge, but advise him of their crimes/lies/truths and so on:5

Enter meditation and spiritually assist the army against Zihao:1

Hold the Trial personally, and interrogate all accused:9

Ask one of the guards if they can tell us where all the clinics, drug stores, and other places of medical importance exists:1

When the time comes you shall be one of the great minds that helps lift Shangrala into an age of prosperity never before seen:1

Total votes : 21


So Lieren, before beginning oversee the trial of the remaining criminals and villains, will gather them before the crowd that gathers to witness the public court. and show the world the crimes and depravity of the Yan Court and ask all attending a rather simple question.

Writing now.
>>4751053
Looks fucking amazing, love the shade of pink used.
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>>4754968
Happy belated birthday, QM!
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>>4754968
lurker checking in, thanks for all writing you do man, hope you had fun on your birthday, and don't sweat about the wait

happy belated birthday as well!
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>>4754968
Bappy hirthday Malal
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>>4754968
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
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>>4754968
Happy B-day Mal.
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>>4754968
Happy Birthday Malal!
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>>4754968
Congrats on living through another year, Malal.
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>>4754968
Happy post-birthday Malal.
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>>4754968
happy bday
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>>4754968
Happy bday malal!
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happy birthday mate
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It is an arduous task to maintain the peace required to properly begin the trial that shall decide the fate of the remaining Yan Courtiers and their numerous servants. Cao Yunru's social standing and former position as a close confident and advisor to Yan Weizha, allows the once favored scholar of the courts to calm many of the more listless among nobility to simple fall in line and surrendered themselves. If not out of fear of your presence than out of a misguided belief they will prove to be the first to ever deceive your eyes and thus manipulate the proceedings of their trial to be rewarded with a higher status rather than a short drop upon the noose.

Such is the hubris so commonly found amongst the nobility. A few attempt to flee, and are easily captured and imprisoned to await their judgment. Some by your own hand, some by others including their own traitorous household guard, who you have watched to ensure they themselves don't flee in turn. Once the majority of the nobility have been subjugated and controlled, the rest of the city falls in line with minimal difficulty. Though a few isolated last stands or prideful would be kings cause a handful of incidents, the majority of the city guard and what remains of the Yan Army give up when you reveal yourself within their holdouts.

Then the trouble becomes preventing a perversion of justice. As many who were held within the capital, taken from their homes or even imprisoned directly within the Celestial Incarnation Palace bray and shout for the blood of their oppressors. The revenge craved by the abused, unfortunately drives some of their number to madness. Regrettably, a few would be lynch mobs form and attempt to enact retribution by their own hand, seeking out their tormenters and rumored villains alike. Most listen to reason, if only because the command to stand down and halt their slaughter are spoken by a man they believed to either be a righteous devil or a benevolent demi god. A few are so consumed with hatred, more extreme measures must be employed.

And thus, imprisoned separately from the nobility and the staff of the palace a number of those you had freed must also be chained, to ensure the safety of the accused before the trial.

It is all so troublesome, but, in the intervening hours from Huli Jing's corporeal death and the trail, you manage to keep the capital from being completely consumed by anarchy or ruled by mob justice. Though there a few key periods where chaos broke out and threatened to spread further, mainly caused by lingering zealots following the Yan's propaganda or utter imbeciles who heard you had been injured and sought the glory of becoming a giantslayer, before being reminded that doing battle with a giant even if they are injured is to court death.

But, whether by honeyed words and influence or intimidation and threatening, peace in the capital is maintained and a pointless slaughter is averted.
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>>4755337

Many bristle and complain, that the wicked are not simply executed without a fair trial, that the dead are not immediately avenged, but you calm such complaints with reassurances that judgement will soon come and past with utmost haste.

To keep the masses from revolting against the fragile order you have created, you choose to gather all of the accused in the center of the city, just beneath the Celestial incarnation Palace to hold court as quickly as feasibly possible. Forcing the herd of blithe lords, terrified courtiers, stoic soldiers and frightened brigands to kneel before a recently defaced statue of a fox, surrounded by the most trustworthy of the repentant warriors of the old dynasty and the servants who once served beneath them to keep any would be vigilantes from enacting their own justice upon the gathered flock of debaucherous fools, slaves to extravagance, and heartless villains.

Oh what a racket their is. A cacophony born of accusatory shouts and insults, intermingling with discordant music played by unskilled or intoxicated hands, but all of those sounds are drowned out by the rhythmic stomping of feet as the seething mass of the gathered spectators roils against itself like a sea of flesh as thousands upon thousands upon thousands of men and women struggle to push themselves towards the edge of the herd, so they may a better view of the fates of the nobility. As if the trial were some great festival or game.

Their are men clinging to buildings, and sitting upon the rooftops. No doubt, the many estates and manors within the city are being looted by those clever enough to wait until you began your judgement of the gentry or opportunistic former staff who understand the truth worth of their master's babbles and trinkets. Which is an issue that will be addressed and dealt with, once the villainous and wicked have received their rightful and deserved punishment.

"STAND STILL!" You bellow, your voice clapping like thunder, freezing the mob like statues of flesh as you stand before the gathered and indicted criminals. Hopefully the command will prevent any injuries or deaths via trampling spurred on by the excitement to follow.

Even the dimmest of the nobles, who turned themselves after being reassured by Cao Yunru and his wife that the coming trial was naught by a ceremonial court to shift blame and weed out the unneeded and disgraced among the new dynasty's court.

A tactic similar to one employed by yourself in your service to Gao Liwei, and The Scarlet Spider Qian Xia, who often lured in her victims with such gentleness and false promises.

However, the fattened, lazy lords and ladies simply have no way to escape the punishment they now realize is quickly approaching them. Some of the generals and officers who had not attended the palace personally, attempt to flee, but are quickly thrown back with the rest of the accused.
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>>4755339

Standing before them, they must see you as the ogre they had said you were. A towering, imposing mass of muscle with scornful pools of gold in place of eyes, and hair woven of wrought iron. The fact you are wearing a thin, undyed silk robe intended for the hotter climate of the north and are wearing your hair in a most dignified and courtly manner are lost to their eyes. No doubt, they have been blinded by your reputation as a cold hearted and merciless hangman and executer of the wealthy and decadent.

Folding your arms together, hiding your hands in the drooping sleeves of your robes, you ponderously pace before the crowd and the mob that surrounds it. Silence reigns, broken only by the sound of your footfalls and breathing. Glancing across the accused and guilty, you peer into their hearts to divine their true nature and depths of their character. Closing your eyes, you sigh, a resentment surging through your thoughts as the logic of common sense rebels against an oddity of Yan culture that has long irritated you.

The concept of a divine mandate, the right to rule handed down by the celestial courts, so the nobility may serve in their stead upon the world of the living and material. Since the existence of gods is a mystery, and the pious are in few number due to the gospel of nihilism preached and practiced by the tyrants and corrupted lords of the Yan Kingdom, it has always seemed like a flimsy excuse to keep the superstitious peasantry from rebelling and rising up against their oppressors by keeping them intimidated by the concept of divine retribution and curses upon their bloodline levied down by the heavens.

However, many consider you a gift from the heavenly courts and with the freedom you allow in the lands beneath your nurturing rule, many have began to practice their beliefs openly once more rather than merely praying in solitude or times of turmoil. Rocking your head side to side, you ponder these thoughts. For, you have seen many things that would have once been considered impossible and utterly nonsensical.

Such as the powers wielded by both the thrall of the Unseen master and Huli Jing, or the existence of Kanzeon and the secret history she guarded. You even carry devices that would have confounded your younger self had he found it, the Lotus Scepter, The Six Fanged Spear, The Twin Daos. You have encounter many inexplicable happenings and existences, why would gods, are similarly fanciful belief not also exist? However, what of their nature? If they were benevolent and kind, how could they stomach the actions of the Tyrants you have dethroned? And if they did not, why have they remained silent? Or perhaps have you already met "gods" and bested them in combat. Or perhaps, they are but forgotten memories of Kanzeon and her sister ships. You do not know in truth.

The nature of the spiritual, is something that cannot be truly understood without deep meditation and encountering it personally.
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>>4755341

If the gods are cruel, if they are kind, if they are distant, if they even exist, they do not matter presently.

What matters, is how the so called celestial privledge of the nobility and divine mandate to rule, has so deeply corroded the wills of the people and ruined the lands. An excuse for tyrants and villains to do as they please without fear of reprisal. If the gods exist, if they care they are welcome to argue in favor of the existence of such a counterproductive and damaging system of government. But you cannot simply remain silent and not protest against this traditional form of oppression and domination.

Its so moronic it doesn't even enrage you it just upsets you. And such a denouncement provides the perfect vehicle to unveil the uncountable crimes and immoralities of the Yan Dynasty.

Clenching your jaw, you open your eyes, and stare past the accused and the teeming mass of the masses that have gathered to witness their trial, past even the realm of the living. Golden eyes piercing through the material existence surrounding you, you sigh and shake your head before raising it to glance to the heavens.

"Many of you have not witnessed the horrors carried out by those executed and the presently accused. Many of you have no understanding of the sheer depths of corruption and depravity that the so called rightful lords and masters of these lands had fallen to, the scope of the degeneration of the majority of the nobility, the wickedness and excess of the courts" You say, trying to limit the amount of vitriol in your speech, lest it inspire the crowd to form into a massive lynching mob "Or perhaps you've remained willfully ignorant, or allowed yourself to be blinded by the allure of tradition and deceived by the belief that ways set in stone are best left unchanged"

You sigh again and stare down the bridge of your nose at the countless people, innocent and guilty alike, gathered before you.

"However, many of you myself included, are privy to the knowledge and truth of things and have been unfortunate enough to witness the unrelenting sadism of the Yan nobility, the incompetency of their rule and the devastating results of their failings. Few, myself included, have been burdened with the curse of gazing upon the true extent of the rot that has afflicted both our lands and their supposed masters, have seen their boundless cruelty and monstrosity. The abomination they wrought and madness that inflicts their fevered minds!" You say, pressing your hands together in prayer before raising them to the heavens. Many begin to shout and jeer, calling you a divine messenger or living incarnation of righteous punishment.

A number of the accused soil themselves, many begin to weep and plead for mercy openly. Pressing the thumb and pointer finger of your left hand together, you turn it over as if in offering.
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>>4755342

"I do not speak as an avenging deity or wrathful zealot. I speak as a man, who has grown rather exhausted of being made to witness such abhorrent acts and their odious results upon the chosen victims of their executors" You say sternly, raising your open right palm over your twin hearts "I have seen, the bodies of innocent men, women and children! mutilated and broken like they were livestock. I have seen such decadence and excess in the midst of famine and starvation. I have seen such stupidity and ill rule. But all of these sins I have been made to witness, cannot compare to the foulest activates of the corrupted courts. It is as an infection that has festered within every rung of high society but nowhere worse has it afflicted than the very heart of the kingdom. Like a bloodborne, congenital illness it has lingered and hidden within the halls and demesne of the powerful"

Turning your gaze lower to the flock of the accused sat kneeling before you, you nod your head once before continuing your speech.

"Many, do not understand the crimes of which I speak. Many may demand proof of such allegations for if I spoke without evidence to support my claims, they would think me mad or the victim of some hellish nightmare. But you, you who have encouraged or beget such wicked deeds, know the truth of my words as do the men who guard your worthless lives despite all of the ill you have caused, and damages you've inflicted upon the land and its people" You say softly, shifting your tone ever slightly to make clear your contempt for those seated before you, a quiet threat to encourage them to speak their crimes freely in hopes of lessening your wrath.

Or to betray their fellows in a bid to survive for but a few moments longer.

So they squeal and shriek for many minutes, telling of the hellish sights of the previous night and many nights before. The rage of the common folk seethes in the air like a scalding steam. Disgust fuels rage, horror inspires hatred, and shame turns to wrath.

It works brilliantly and the silence is soon broken by "humble" and frightened recounting of the countless sins and atrocities committed by the Yan court, as well as the courts of their vassals and the deeds of men long dead and buried.

Shaking your head, you step forward and stomp your feet hard enough to crack the paved road beneath them. Partially to silence the accused's desperate shouts and please for understanding, and partially to keep the crowd from being consumed by insatiable bloodlust and righteous fury.

"Is this the work of a righteous ruler? unrestrained cruelty, wild sadism, uncontrolled madness, uncaring selfishness, unforgiveable excess and wastefulness, pointless squandering of not only wealth by innocent lives, and unnatural and inhuman depravities so sickening they sour the tongue when described!" You shout, so you may be heard by all present
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>>4755344

"Is this the privledge afforded to by the heavens? To abuse, rape and destroy the lands and their people for naught but their petty whims and easily wounded pride? I would interrupt these testimonies proving the abhorrent and aberrant degeneracy of the Yan rule and their villainous deeds, to ponder openly"

Lowering your eyes, you spread your arms outwards, inviting reprisal from the skies and heavens beyond them.

"Why should the eight celestial courts be praised and placated, if this is the nature of their chosen kings? If they would sponsor animals like this! Who have long brought ruin to the land with their misrule, and sowed only suffering and sorrow in their wake" You say in a deeply grim tone "And if these are not the ideal rulers commanded to steward the world beneath the heavens, than why were such monstrous usurpers allowed to rule? Are the gods so uncaring, that they would allow such beasts to rule in their stead? Or does such earthbound suffering entertain the celestial lords? I will be truthful, and admit I know not the reason but I will proclaim the truth I know"

Raising a finger towards the heavens, you raise your head and shout directly towards the heavens and the stars beyond.

"Such tyrants cannot be allowed to remain in power! Either they lied about the heaven's official blessing bestowed to their line, or the heavens are populated by beings not worth to be served nor worshipped. I do not know which is the truth, but I can not permit the existence of such wanton wickedness and vile villainy. Let it be known far and wide, spread to every ear of every man born as Yan, that the Yan tyrants do not have a divine right to rule our lands! Either they have deceived us all, or the gods who sponsored them are as monstrous as they are. But such" You say, slowly calmly from your passionate fervor, to speak quietly and gently once more "Theological debate can be held between men wise in such matters. I am but a philosopher, who has grown tired of the darkness and evil that has long afflicted my home. Let us return to the matters at hand, the lawful trial and punishment of the creatures who commit such affronts against the lands and their people. Whether their deeds are an affront to the courts as well, remains to be seen. Let the pious divine that truth, for I know not if there are even gods watching our lives"

Bowing, you walk forward and start to read the crimes to the first of the indicted, to a chorus of cheers.
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Your head aches. it would seem there were indeed a few hidden monks hidden among the very heart of the rule that had burned the Dai monks for the religions and persecuted all others harshly. Occultists, secret priests and monks alike have ambushed you the moment the "trial of tyrants" had ended. A majority of the accused were proven to your eyes to be too criminal to be given any punishment besides execution, though their exact crimes were varied and many.
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>>4755346

Those spared, who could yet be redeemed or who were simply sufficiently innocent to be given lesser punishments such as labor and a stripping of titles, had not helped matters by supplicating themselves before you and Cao Yunru and kissing the ground you walked. His plump wife seemed relieved that her relations and kin had in a majority survived the trial.

Now, you were beset on all sides, by overly grateful men and women who were trying their hardest to drive you mindless with irritation of their praising and compliments towards your "Merciful" nature, and pious men who would not cease their pestering inquiries about the exact meaning of your words and the Journey's stance on their particular sect of the faith, while repeating rumors and hearsay of your origins and ability.

And worse yet, Cao Yunru had warned you that those still in positions of power after your purge of the city were planning on beginning a celebration to immortalize the fall of the Yan and "trial of the Tyrants"

How troublesome. There was still work to be done. Luli and the other grievously injured victims of the nobility and their servants needed more attention than the glory of your deeds.

What shall you do, Lieren?
>Forbid any celebration before the arrival of your forces, and escape from the curious priests and supplicating survivors of the trial
>Simply tell the priests you have met one being that could be called a god, and she certainly doesn't serve in the courts, even though you are certain she is not a god.
>Tell the nobles they can repay your "kindness" By reading the journey and giving away the majority of their wealth.
>Just kill Yan Weizha, and begin to demolish the Celestial Incarnation Palace, ignoring anything that may distract you.
>write in?

>>4755043
>>4755046
>>4755049
>>4755059
>>4755083
>>4755095
>>4755102
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>>4755156
And thank you, all of you. It really brings a smile to my face. Wish I could've written an update on my birthday, but sadly I drank like Russ and passed out before I could.

My bad
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>>4755351
>Simply tell the priests you have met one being that could be called a god, and she certainly doesn't serve in the courts, even though you are certain she is not a god.

happy b-day
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>>4755351
>just sit down and meditate. Attempt to reach out to our army.
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>>4755351
>>Simply tell the priests you have met one being that could be called a god, and she certainly doesn't serve in the courts, even though you are certain she is not a god.
>write in?
Crush the crown/headdress of the Yan kings and call for all to celebrate by helping to demolish the palace.
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>>4755351
>>Forbid any celebration before the arrival of your forces, and escape from the curious priests and supplicating survivors of the trial.
>>Tell the nobles they can repay your "kindness" By reading the journey and giving away the majority of their wealth.
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>>4755351
>>Simply tell the priests you have met one being that could be called a god, and she certainly doesn't serve in the courts, even though you are certain she is not a god.
"I have only met one entity that could be taken for a deity, though I know now that she is not one, nor is her service to any apparent. But there are limits to my knowledge, just as there are to any mortal's. Perhaps there is a god, or a whole pantheon of gods? I know not, for this Universe is unfathomably large and doubtless full of unknowns. But I will not begrudge anyone their worship, so long as they do not use their faith as an excuse to hoard power or as justification to inflict undue harm."
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>>4755351
>Write in?

Do not forbid celebration outright but do mention that there is still a battle being fought for the people and that those soldiers would be due for a proper rest once they arrived.
To any questioning "monks" our answer is to tell them that all men walk their own path. Only they themselves can find the answers they speak.
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>>4755351
>>Forbid any celebration before the arrival of your forces, and escape from the curious priests and supplicating survivors of the trial
>>Tell the nobles they can repay your "kindness" By reading the journey and giving away the majority of their wealth.
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>>4755351
>Forbid any celebration before the arrival of your forces
>Tell the nobles they can repay your "kindness" By reading the journey and giving away the majority of their wealth.
>Tell them we seen monsters, spirits, demon and guardians. We do not the will of the heavens, but we know the strength of man. If they want to know our stance, read the journey and learn the truth of the Dai monks.
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>>4755390
Ah fuck, I meant to vote for
>Just kill Yan Weizha, and begin to demolish the Celestial Incarnation Palace, ignoring anything that may distract you.
Instead of prohibiting celebrations.
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>>4754968
happy birthday malal mah boy
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>>4755351
>Forbid any celebration before the arrival of your forces, and escape from the curious priests and supplicating survivors of the trial
Also kill Yan Weizha, he does not deserve a special death
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>>4755351
>>Simply tell the priests you have met one being that could be called a god, and she certainly doesn't serve in the courts, even though you are certain she is not a god.
>Just kill Yan Weizha, and begin to demolish the Celestial Incarnation Palace, ignoring anything that may distract you.


"Cao Yunru's plump wife"
DAMN BOI HE LIKES THEM THICC, the old scholar is a man after my own heart.
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>>4755351
>write in?
Tell the nobles, priests and commoners that if they wish to repay your 'kindness', 'mercy' and wisdom, they can join you in demolishing the Celestial Incarnation Palace and preparing the city to receive your forces, fresh from their battle.
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>>4755351
>>Simply tell the priests you have met one being that could be called a god, and she certainly doesn't serve in the courts, even though you are certain she is not a god.
>>Tell the nobles they can repay your "kindness" By reading the journey and giving away the majority of their wealth.
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>>4755450
Support
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>>4755351
>Tell the nobles they can repay your "kindness" By reading the journey and giving away the majority of their wealth.
>Just kill Yan Weizha, and begin to demolish the Celestial Incarnation Palace, ignoring anything that may distract you.
>Forbid any celebration before the arrival of your forces, and escape from the curious priests and supplicating survivors of the trial
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>>4755351
>Forbid any celebration
>Tell the nobles who to repay our kindness, let the monks read the journey
>Kill Weizha and destroy the palace.
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>>4755351
>write in?
I think we should do a mass funeral to mourn the long dead before considering any sort of celebration. Gotta pay our respects. THEN we can celebrate for many a things. For victory over the Yan, dethroning of the courts, a new era, to celebrate the memories of those lost instead of wollowing in melancholy.
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>>4755351
>write in?
Tell those trying to set up the party now is not yet the time, once judgement is done and the dead mourned we will celebrate to turn over a new leaf but not before. We will have a nigh a week of solace and peace before upon the last day a more tame celebration.

>write in?
"I do not believe there to be gods only those with power and those whom view it as godlike. Things so different to us may seem beyond our understanding like Kindness to a Tyrants heart but all are things of reason and it is Reason that will see us to a brighter tomorrow."
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>>4755351
>Forbid any celebration before the arrival of your forces.
>Tell the nobles they can repay your "kindness" By reading the journey and giving away the majority of their wealth.
>Tell them we seen monsters, spirits, demon and guardians. We do not know the will of the heavens, but we know the strength of man. If they want to know our stance, read the journey and learn the truth of the Dai monks.
>Concentrate on healing people, ignoring anything that may distract you (unless is city work or important thing).
>Put a cage around the king


Happy birthday!
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>>4755450
Support
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>>4755351
>Forbid any celebration before the arrival of your forces, and escape from the curious priests and supplicating survivors of the trial
There is much to be done
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>>4755351
>write in?
> Avoid any celebration until all the injured are healed and all the affected by the war or the battles are properly tended. After all urgent matters have been dealt with, answer the doubts of as many peole as you can regarding the Journey, yourself or any other matter that could start unfounded and problematic rumours.

Basically, deal with all the bullshit consequences of the war and the fall of the city, then avoid future problems and increase unity and compliance
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>>4755351
Supporting these two
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>>4755769
Everyone be careful what you say about religious matters to these people because we will probably start new religions this way. Also happy birthday to our QM.
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>>4756968
If it's not obvious, basically allow the regular people to celebrate how they like but tell the nobles to organize a memorial service for the victims and keep the true celebrations for when the army arrives. Should we send a message that the Yan dynasty has fallen to the battling armies?
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>>4756977
Yes
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All caught up.

Time to start winning the peace.

>>4756873
Supporting this.

>>4756977
Yes. Even if it doesn't prompt a formal surrender, undercutting the Yin's morale further can only help.
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>>4756977
We really are bullying the Yan, holy shit. Like have they won even a single battle?
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>>4757065
Yes anon, they won the moral battl-wait no, we won that too.
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>>4757065
No, and they knew it too.

They were all set to blow up their entire city in a ritual sacrifice because they knew we were gunning for them. Which is both indicative of their assessment of their chances and of the attitudes that led them to their ruin.
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>>4757065
>>4757074
The only case that can even be counted as winning was when Kang defeated a Lai rider, took his firearm and ended up using it to kill small Chen. Also all the innocents killed in the palace before Lieren could save them.
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>>4757079
>>4757086
>Malal as he watches a single move years ago utterly foil Slannesh's about to be daemon prince
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>>4756977
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>>4757063
Unless you intend to send it telepathically it won’t arrive in time.
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>>4757148
Or we go ourselves--and we need to be here in this moment of transition.

Point taken.
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>>4757095
And we are just starting too, we still need to remove the other 3 daemons, unless the bird is the other one, than we are halfway done.
Spite truly is the most powerful emotion.
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>>4757148
>>4757160
Well we don't know when the battle will finish and it was more to save more people that would have died otherwise if we didn't sent the message rather than prevent the battle taking place altogether. Or we could try talking to our army telepathically but that won't make the enemy stop fighting.
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>>4757181
The bird is one, but I don't think we banished it good enough.

Anyway, Nurgle and Khorne left.
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>>4757181
>>4757199
After reading through the battle with Huli Jing, it seems that Lieren's worst daemonic opponents will be Khorne and Nurgle daemons. Lieren's vision can see through Tzeentch's illusions and his dexterity and will can protect him from sorcery. His martial arts can help him with Slaanesh's daemons and the Journey is potent against their temptations. Khorne daemons don't waste much time on temptations and they are straight forward and brutal opponents. Nurgle daemons are worse since they are very defense oriented and their biggest strength(illnesses) is something that can weaken even Lieren(probably, the Toad Dragon didn't infect Lieren with anything but it wasn't a true daemon either).
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>>4757205
Khorne and Nurgle Daemons are also dangerous because they're the ones Lieren has the most to do with, Khorne when it comes to the seething mass of anger that lies beneath Lieren's skin (even if it's anger against evil) and Nurgle for the Journey's whole "Life" stuff
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>>4755351
Happy birthday to my favorite current quest runner, albeit belated.

>>4755380
This with
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>>4757227
The Journey has the positive parts of all four chaos gods but you are right about the anger part. With how he has behaved, Lieren and his Legion if the behave similarly to him will be a mix of the Black Templars(anger against chaos/the unclean) and the Lamenters(protection of the innocent/non-combatants).
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>>4757248
So kinda like Salamanders except against Chaos instead of Dark Eldar?
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>>4757252
We're gonna hate the DEldar too, don't you worry. Malal has said that he's looking forward to writing our reaction to them. We'll be bonding with Vulkan while ripping wyches in half bare-handedly.
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>>4757252
Well the Black Templars would have been angry against all xenos as well as chaos but maybe.
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>>4757253
I wonder how Lieren will feel about the rest of the Eldar especially exodites if he founds them.
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>>4757262
They both speak like they've memorized a thesaurus, so there's some common ground. He'll respect the Exodites for their asceticism and love of nature, I think. Craftworlders though, he might be a little more on the fence about. But I don't see him hating the xenos solely because they're xenos, as most of his brothers do. I can actually see him taking a leaf out of the Interex's book and making reservation/prison worlds for the species he conquers.
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>>4757262
Wonder how Lieren would feel about the Tau and the Greater Good.
Shame they are at caveman level around this time.
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>>4757253
>>4757270
If we don't have a hatred for all eldar, it might put us at odds with Vulkan.
Man could not tell the long-eared fuckers apart even if his life depended on it.
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>>4757262
Hes gonna have a field day having a philosophical discussion with one of them about the similarities of The Journey and the Eldar Path.
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>>4757272
He'd like the idea, but he wouldn't like the whole pheromone mind control shit.
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>>4757300
I wouldn't be so sure about liking it.

The Journey doesn't really touch the organization of society at the moment, emphasizing instead individual virtue and self-improvement. That will probably change as we set about the business of governance, but I think and hope that it will remain very grassroots in character.

Whereas the Greater Good is very collectivist in general, tied to the Tau caste system in particular, and imposed top-down.
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>>4757367
True, but considering the shit hole that the galaxy is, the greater good is incredibly light compared to the kind of shit others do.
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>>4757391
That's no way to justify 'liking' a philosophy. Preferring it to the alternatives, maybe, but that doesn't mean Lieren wouldn't find aspects objectionable.
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>>4757199
>Anyway, Nurgle and Khorne left.
The Nurglite will be gone as medicine and standards of living advance.
Same with the Korhnate bastard after we unify all the lands of this backwater planet.
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The Nurgle Demon? Lieren will probably need to improve his medical knowledge considerably to counteract a great swath of illnesses, in addition to getting a suit of power armor. For Khorne? Maybe some more psyker/martial training.

For the bird demon if it's still on this planet? Maybe more enlightenment training.
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>>4757477
Weakened, not gone.
We have to deal with that Personally.
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>>4757477
>The Nurglite will be gone as medicine and standards of living advance.

Hmm.

What's the state of plumbing throughout Yan? I know China's had sophisticated sewers since the Qin dynasty, but how widespread was it? What sort of water treatment was used, and what can we introduce? (May I suggest slow sand filters for potable water, and constructed wetlands for grey/blackwater?)
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>>4758779
there is some back in nothing, I remember in one of the early threads someone taking a shower
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>>4758804
Yeah, but that's in Nothing. I'd expect Lieren to tackle water sanitation anywhere he's going to be for a while.

Now that we face the prospect of bringing that to all of Yan it might be useful to know what we're working with and what we'll have to introduce.
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>>4758825
...Damn it, I just realized I should've said:
>Yeah, but that's Nothing.
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>>4757477
Dealing with Nurgle is going to be harder than just implementing better sanitaion and medical practices, because as we united and modernise more of Shangrala, there will be an increase in urban population and planteray trade, which not only will increase the likehood of pandemics, but hive rise to the emotion that greatly strengthen the nurglite: depression.
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>>4758871
Also the other emotional or cognitive aspect is stagnation, and I can't exactly place what a good solution for dealing with that.
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>>4758871
Sanitation and a robust healthcare system are essential for handling pandemics. Maybe not enough, but essential.

As for mental health, a big part of our difficulties in the real world come from underlying economic and political inequalities exacerbated by, but far predating, industrialization and global trade. Lieren is both in a good position and an good disposition to set about mitigating these inequalities.

>>4758905
In the near term, Lieren's going to be upending Shangrala in just about every facet of life as a matter of course.

In the long term...we can't engineer a society that will remain vital and responsive forever, but Lieren's a Primarch AND partial to the idea of planting trees he won't get to rest under the shade of.
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>>4758871
>hive
No way in hell Lieren is allowing the construction of those hellish hives. Multi-tiered cities, maybe, but not the 'reach into the actual clouds' size

It's an primarch world, which means it's tax exempt, which means we don't need to give a rat's ass about being productive enough for the empire. What we DO need is a world that can continue in a good state.

I think we should try to find an balance of technology and nature that allows for production of all the stuff the planet might need to be well-off without utterly destroying it's resources. We'll be switching over to asteroid mining as soon as we can, so the mining doesn't have to be permanent either, but the food? Yes. We need foods and ecologically-friendly factories.

Also, remember that we can't simply remove the fog, even if we could it would completely destroy the fauna and flora which evolved to thrive, as well as the people who are probably accustomed to seeing through it.

Personally, i think we'll make good use of fancy sci-fi fusion reactors, Lieren is a primarch so he should be able to make one given enough tech. We should not try to rely too much on Prometheum for power generation, that kind of stuff will most definitely fuck up the atmosphere.

Also, no china tier factorio shit. It's always good to have local industry, but we don't need to be producing fucking land raiders for our chapter, that's going to be our cogboy's job.
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>>4758932
I think the best way to ensure a good mental care is that, once we conquer Shangrala, we should institute an robust educational system that's fit for modern society, as opposed to the industrial mindset which is about pumping out as many workers as possible.

Once again, no taxes here, we just need to worry about long-term wellbeing. Something else is to really implant an nice culture - implant The Journey in the roots of the people, so that they're raised by the Journey's values and raise their children by the same.

By doing so, by having a great system of values, we secure much greater morality. If we can form institutions which are capable and not hopelessly corrupt, then that'll also make it all great.
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>>4759051
Hive was a typo, I meant to write give.
But it ended in you giving good points against a creation of a hive so it ended well.
I think it would be better with we industrialized and tried to be both self sufficient and efficient. I don't believe Lieren would ve happy with bowing down to the insanities of the machine-cults by having to play nice so he can have technology. Neither would he accept the horrible conditions of the forge worlds just because it's someone else, giving how we refused the Vishnu envoy just because they employed slavery.
Lieren is going to feel extreme rage when he finds out about servitors and how widespread and depended on them the Imperium is, isn't he?
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>>4759051
We are going to have to deal with the Vishnu, though, and that's going to require some degree of industrialization in the immediate.We're at or approaching the limits of what we can introduce in terms of the military without true mass production, and the slave collars suggest that the Vishnu have some degree of this already.

We can mitigate the maluses somewhat--constructed wetlands to treat seepage, robust recycling, supporting organized labor when it develops--but we've made enemies and can ill afford to do this slowly.

>>4759057
Agreed on all points--ish.

Taxes are how governmental programs are ultimately funded, and if we're not funding, say, education as a public good, someone else will fund it as a private good--and write the curriculum to their benefit.

And on the other hand, I'm not really comfortable explicitly imposing the Journey top-down, and with how it's taken off even in those places that brutally repress it I don't believe it's necessary.
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>>4759103
Well, that's the thing, we don't need the Mechanicus for all technology. The majority of imperial worlds and so are supposed to be pretty much like earth and even beyond, they have their own industry which makes their own stuff. Mechanicus is for the real fancy stuff, like the mega-bolters and plasma guns and all that stuff.

We don't need the Mechanicus to have near-future technology. And even then, wasn't it part of our list of things to do to find some friendly mechanicus group that would side with us? Basically, find our own "Cawl", kinda like Roboute did.

After all, there's so many Sects in the Mechanicus that one more, following the Journey won't be seen as any problem. Maybe they'll be Japanese - THAT would be fun.
>>4759111
>Taxes are how governmental programs are ultimately funded, and if we're not funding, say, education as a public good, someone else will fund it as a private good--and write the curriculum to their benefit.
No, i mean as in, Imperial Tax.

All Imperial Worlds have to pay a tax to the Administratum, but planets that have stuff like Space Marine Recruitment or even more, Primarch Worlds, are Tax-Exempt, which means we don't need to care about that.
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>>4759057
Better not force people to learn the journey, I studied in a catholic school and the religious classes either pushed away people from faith or treated it as a extra recess to nap.
Better make so there is a theology classes together with philosophy and sociology (actual sociology, not that shit being pushed in colleges nowadays) as optinal thinga on the curriculum, maybe with a debate club or something.
But giving that we developed a new teaching system for our panther students, and already taught the elder on the Mao village, we are probably are going to modernize the teaching system into something similar to it.
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>>4759116
With we could convert a forge world nearby to the journey and turn it into some sort of non-shithole factory world, it would be very nice.
No servitors, genetically enginnered plants that like polution so it has some greenary, all of the population having acess to to air filtration, and some aestheticaly cool pagoda-manufactories.
Just hope they don't get the bad side of japanese society, like forced overtime and drinking, promotion based on nepotirm and age instead of merit, low birthrate and high numver of suicides.
And guilty before innocent trials too.
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>>4759117
It's less about forcing it on people and more about ensuring that it takes deep roots in culture. In an ideal scenario, pretty much everyone would be following the journey's values even without having read the journey at all

Think of it like how Greek Values are embedded in Western Culture. Now multiply that by millenia, which is the timescale in Warhammer 40k
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>>4759131
Trying to change TOO MUCH Will end up bad. We can't avoid pollution on an Warhammer 40k world, the best we can do is ensure that it happens in an world without fauna and flora to suffer for it.

Also, i guess SOME civil rights won't be a problem. But we should always remember that this is STILL Warhammer 40k, and we're not going to suddenly turn everything Nobledark by sheer protag power.
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>>4759132
In that case making it a optional thing that's encoraged would be better, otherwise it might ser a precedent.
Otherwise it will end up like the latter chinese dynasty that replaced the bureaucratic test from knowing about the position to knowing about confucious.
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>>4759152
Having no servitor is non-negotiable, and so is ensuring that the populace has acess to proper air-filtration in the residential areas and functioning gas-mask.
And the plants are more for aethethical reasons really, although having acess to green areas tend to improve the mood of the people, and fit fits the lessons of the journey.
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>>4759153
Yes, but a dynasty is a dynasty, we're Lieren, we can make a man cry tears of joy just for looking at us. Point is, i agree we shouldn't try to make it a competition, but we need to ensure that the journey lives on through the ages or else Shangrala will end up falling to Lorgar's divinitatus bullshit

I mean obviously they'll most definitely fall to worshipping the emprah and i guess, us too, kind of, in the distant future, but at least then they won't be burning people for retarded false heresies and turning babies into flying cyborg cherub servitor abominations.
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>>4759116

>No, i mean as in, Imperial Tax.

Ah, sorry.

>>4759117
>But giving that we developed a new teaching system for our panther students, and already taught the elder on the Mao village, we are probably are going to modernize the teaching system into something similar to it.

On that note: movable type printing. Make sure it doesn't become a government/royal monopoly like what happened to Korea.

Maybe introduce a simplified alphabet too?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_printing_in_East_Asia#Movable_type
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>>4759170
>Having no servitor is non-negotiable
And what's your idea, using an AI? There literallly *is* no choice, not even Emprah tried to use an A.I.

Servitors are necessary to run forgeworlds, the best we can do is ensure that only the worst of the worst receive that fate and that their memory erasure actually works.

You people are trying to fly too close to the sun. Keep that plan, and we might just burn our wings.
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>>4759111
Utterly false, the vishnu nobles have slave collars as archeotech relics, but I doubt that the vishnu as a whole have industrial lvl production, or even more than a medieval economy and methods. They are not!khornates, if they did, we would have made vishnu weapons and warmachines a priority, and would have conquered every other country.
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>>4759188
Explain how the Vishnu can source enough collars that they can just give away slaves like that, then.
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>>4759182
If you aren't going to use a computer, than ypu are going to have and suck it up and write on paper, because servitors are not only a form of slavery, but also a way to disrespect your foe, a disrespect to his body, past and what he could have become.
Maybe they could try and cyborgfy a larger part of the populace, while still keeping their freedom? Or putting more techpriests and magus directly in charge of the assembly lines instead of having them hiding alway in their laboratories accomplishing nothing? Maybe take a note of the Cui and start a eugenics program to breed a caste of number cruncher ala the Mentats in Dune? Giving that it's one of the inspirations for the setting it could work.
Also the Emperor is a cuck, praise Malal
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>>4759131
>>4759170
All the other ideas are great, but Servitors are a must. It's either that or slave labour, and you don't want slave labour. This is Warhammer 40k, stop having dreams and HOPE and start brainstorming solutions with viable, in-setting resources or Lieren's dream will go to shit.
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Technical issues seem to have stopped, calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait

Simply tell the priests you have met one being that could be called a god, and she certainly doesn't serve in the courts, even though you are certain she is not a god: 7

just sit down and meditate. Attempt to reach out to our army.:1

Crush the crown/headdress of the Yan kings and call for all to celebrate by helping to demolish the palace.:1

Forbid any celebration before the arrival of your forces, and escape from the curious priests and supplicating survivors of the trial:9

Tell the nobles they can repay your "kindness" By reading the journey and giving away the majority of their wealth:8

Do not forbid celebration outright but do mention that there is still a battle being fought for the people and that those soldiers would be due for a proper rest once they arrived:5

To any questioning "monks" our answer is to tell them that all men walk their own path. Only they themselves can find the answers they speak:4

Tell them we seen monsters, spirits, demon and guardians. We do not the will of the heavens, but we know the strength of man. If they want to know our stance, read the journey and learn the truth of the Dai monk:2

Just kill Yan Weizha, and begin to demolish the Celestial Incarnation Palace, ignoring anything that may distract you:5

Tell those trying to set up the party now is not yet the time, once judgement is done and the dead mourned we will celebrate to turn over a new leaf but not before. We will have a nigh a week of solace and peace before upon the last day a more tame celebration:1

Put a cage around the king:1

"I do not believe there to be gods only those with power and those whom view it as godlike. Things so different to us may seem beyond our understanding like Kindness to a Tyrants heart but all are things of reason and it is Reason that will see us to a brighter tomorrow:1

Concentrate on healing people, ignoring anything that may distract you (unless is city work or important thing:1

Total votes: 23

Since no vote holds 1 less than half, it'll instead be decided by the most votes.

Which is forbidding any celebration before the arrival or your army. and escaping the curious mob surrounding you so you'll have time to plan out the proper course of action to take and how to address the various problems already rising within the capital, so Lieren will do just that

Writing now./

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>>4755401
>>4756968
>>4757236

Thank all of you as well

>>4757063
welcome!
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>>4759209
Anon, it's not a choice. Space Marine Legions technology, technology that, whether you like it or not, NEEDS Servitors. Servitors are necessary for running the Forge Worlds.

It's just like hive worlds - it sucks A LOT, And Lieren will most definitely hate it, but there IS NO CHOICE. The Imperium NEEDS it, Because if they don't use that shit, they will SHRIVEL UP AND DIE.
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>>4759211
Servitors ARE slave labor, the number of stories of them still having their councioness is enough to prove it.
They exist purely for grimdark, we have to try and find an alternative.
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>>4759211
>>4759224

Ah-hem.

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial_Robots

Could these be adapted to industrial applications?
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>>4759225
There IS No Alternative, anon. The Point of Servitors is that they serve as a replacement for A.I since sufficiently advanced Artificial Intelligence are extremely easy to corrupt.

Kanzeon may be able to ignore chaos corruption, but the entire Men of Iron revolt shows that's not the standard. So instead, they use "biological" intelligence.

There's just no way to replace servitors unless we go into the realm of donut steel faggotry. This is a 40k quest, you can't remove the Grimdark, only try to make things around you a little bit brighter.
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>>4759225
and what do you suggest we use as a replacement for them?
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>>4759230
>lost archeotech-using extremely expensive robots used for high-tier legio cybernetica war
Might as well use our Gloriana-Class Battleship as a cargo freighter.
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>>4759224
The Emperor tough that the imoerial truth wasn't a choice either, and he was wrong.
It feels wrong for Lieren to accept something that feels so opposite for his beliefs out of nowhere, at least without trying to find an alternative first.
I have no problem with him having a "fall-from-grace" and accepting the grimdark, but he has to try alternativea first. When they repeatly fail, than it will make sense.
Anyway, this are all plans for a hypothethical journey forgeworld that might never exist and for a very distant future. We still have to finish conquering Shangrala, removing the daemons and monster and meet the emperor first.
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>>4759233
Well I don’t think it’s just corruption. I think humanity was also too dependent on AI.
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>>4759233
>>4759234
>>4759209
>Maybe they could try and cyborgfy a larger part of the populace, while still keeping their freedom? Or putting more techpriests and magus directly in charge of the assembly lines instead of having them hiding alway in their laboratories accomplishing nothing? Maybe take a note of the Cui and start a eugenics program to breed a caste of number cruncher ala the Mentats in Dune? Giving that it's one of the inspirations for the setting
There is no akternative we haven't tried yet. We accept the grimdark after it fails ok? Otherwise Lieren suddenly accepting mutilation and slavery out of nowhere would just be silly.
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The only way i can possibly think of making Servitors less Grimdark is if we have some really good vat-cloning facilities, since Servitors are often created straight for vats.

But that'd require some Krieg-tier facilities, which we don't have
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I feel like we should start developing our psyker powers. Gonna need them on the crusade and to help bond with Magnus.
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>>4759251
It’s not “grimdarkness is the only possibility”, but grimdarkness is a major part of what makes 40k a fun setting.
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>>4759196
They were giving collars to a literal legendary invincible giant that was about to murderblend the Yan armies for the fifth and last time, you know, the armies that defeated the very warlike vishnu serious invasions MANY times, their ancestral enemies. The elite slaves with the collars and the riches were one of the rich and influential vishnu warlords' attempt at bribing Lieren, getting some lands in Yan and avoiding his own particular suicide via Primarch. The vishnu, as far as we know and can especulate, CANNOT MASSPRODUCE ARCHEOTECH, so we can take our time and uplift Yan properly into scy-fy lvls of tech with the egg's knowledge and Kanzeon's help, and avoid a chinese cultural and industrial revolution shitstorm.
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>>4759255
Perhaps we should ask Khazeon. The colony ship might have a organ growing facility. With the blueprint and some technical tweaking it could be used to grow a complete clone.
Now the problem is that perfect cloning is either banned or lost isn't it? And I remember reading that they have no soul, and that's why the Kriegan wombs aren't pod cloning.
My bet is that they do something like we do right now, with sperm and ovulum reserves and surrogate mothers, but that's a tangent.
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>>4759264
It really is, and is one of the draws of the setting, but a characters fall to the grimdark has to atleast make sense, otherwise you get Pertubaro.
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>>4759288
I don't know, all i know is that the wiki says that Servitors are often made in vats.

Honestly, having soulless servitors might not even be that bad, as long as they can't be corrupted by chaos it would just make it safer. A piece of machinery doesn't need a soul.
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>>4759170
Yeah no, Servitors are basically vital to the running of most if not all large scale machinery of the imperium. We ain't getting rid of them even if we tried, on forge worlds even less so.

This has to be explained to Lieren and perhaps given some consideration but there is really no wide-scale solution
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>>4759223
Aren't the two most voted options not mutually exclusive and off by a vote each?

Eh, it's how you count, but I still think we could do both fine with majority support.
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>>4759298
It probably won't make it easy for chaos to possess, giving that the lore says Tau have weak souls and are said to be more shielded from Chaos because of it, and the dark mechanicum seems to need a machine spirit corrupt and replace with daemons.
Giving that machibe spirits are actually fucking real and the pre-DAoT humans seemed to give one to everything they built, the Man of Iron probably had a soul, and that's Chaos corrupted them, or they went full on robot revolution because they were sentient and enslaved, or both at the same time.
But again, I'm going into a tangent.
The real question is, if a souless human is born from a vat, would be alive or just a husk? And if they are husk, is giving them a machube spirit by turning them into a servitor the equivalent of a birth? And would that make the techpriest and vat the mother and father?
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>>4759239
Moderately producible archeotech, apparently, if the Legio Cybernetica could field 300,000 such units at its height.

In any case we mostly just need the cortex as a replacement for industrial microcontrollers--since that's apparently AI and can't be used.

>>4759270
Funny thing, I can't find just how many slave-warriors the Vishnu decided to gift us.

I could see maybe a hundred collars being on the edge of reasonable, but that's a token commitment if we're operating on the scale of real-life ancient China.

I'll also point out that Yan went from barely knowing about gunpowder to supplying enough hand cannons and ammunition to equip an army over the course of the campaign. We cannot ever assume our enemies will remain complacent or stationary.

>>4759314
They're vital to the running of the 40k Imperium, which is trying to hold off multiple galaxy-ending threats on every front on what little it can recover and Chaos-proof from the ruins of its already ramshackle technology base.

30k Imperium has a few more options, and we'll have a few options more.
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>>4759331
Well, the rule has always been, so long as a vote has one less than half the total number of votes and doesn't conflict with the one with option which has the most votes, it will be included in the update.

However, even the vote with the most votes, doesn't reach 1 less than half, so only it goes through.

I probably have gone against this rule because of miscounting a few times, but I try to follow it as best as I am able to
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>>4759331
I don’t like either of them though. I for the most part don’t want to mention Kanzeon or try to push the Journey on anyone.
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>>4759333
>are said to be more shielded from Chaos because of it,
Not really from what I’ve heard. More likely they are just harder to detect.
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>>4759340
Didn't one of the Dawn of War games have a sorcerer try to corrupt a Tau commander, and getting nowhere because all the Tau could hear was static?
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>>4759337
Kanzeon was 7, not 8.
And even if you don't want to push the Journey on anyone, they did want to "repay" us.

>>4759336
Fair, just seemed that since it was also below the waterline the same would apply.
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>>4759343
Don’t know but Tau have been corrupted by the warp before and their condition gives no defense in the tabletop game.
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>>4759255
It's either that or swapping all forms of executtion for a perfected servitorization process. As long as a full and permanent mindwipe is enacted and all pain receptors destroyed (in a painless way), then I see no problem. Servitors are actually one of the most terrifying outcomes to anyone sane, in and outside of 40k, they make for an even better deterrent against evil: Choose between being a decent human being and a productive member of society, enjoying the peace and prosperity of one of Lieren's worlds and all the rewards that contributing to the Imperium gives you (In Lierenland), or committing a crime to get personal power and wealth at the risk getting hunted down by the primarch-level law sistem and it's agents, ruining your pretty nice and fullfilled life and ending up like those horrible husks.
Servitorization is also much more less wasteful as a way of executing (hanging someone creates a corpse, servitor'd the same guy and you get a useful tool) and can be, if properly handled, much less painful and much quicker.
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>>4759296
He had a 24/7 conection to the Eye of Terror inside his mind, warping (heh) his emotions, and his brain had no joy because he alredy had all his Primarch innate knowledge unlocked which covered just about everything ever. He also had at least two full memory wipes due to the aforementioned points, which made the aforementioned issues even worst. He also was born in Medusa, aka Not!Ancient Greece with the Grimdark and asshole levels on warp drugs.
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>>4759364
And that's still trying to rule through fear and disrespecting your foes body and legacy, both things Lieren is against and would need a long process to accept.
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>>4759233
>>4759333
I don't understand the point about forbidding the use of A.I.s (even less sophisticated ones) because you're afraid they will turn against you because of chaos corruption or something else and replacing them with servitors created from humans when most humans time and again are corrupted by chaos and turn against you.
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A celebration is the last thing a city still fraught with turmoil and confusion needs. It may momentarily lift the spirits of the inhabitants, however, it will also bring further discord. The minds and hearts of the people are already rife with resentment, confusion, and anger. Liquor and joyous celebration will merely embolden those who wish to do harm to even the innocent among the nobility, or encourage those who still hold fears regarding yourself and the new ruling power to act upon the impulse to strike out or foolishly attempt to seize power for themselves.

There is only so much rope in the capital however, and doubtlessly many villains slipped through the notice of the ramshackle police force you have employed to capture the various criminal elements within the city. A celebration will act as a spark to ignite the powder keg of turmoil beneath the precarious peace and order you have managed to establish by merely being the only man in the position to control and calm the raging confusion and panic that would have otherwise consumed the city. Revealing the crimes of the Yan, and making a show of executing the lingering elements of its corruption is but a temporary measure to maintain this temporary law and order.

As regrettable as it is, the people cannot be allowed their festival and celebrations even though it would serve to cleanse the worst of their fears and complaints at least for its duration, as they may be driven by the passions inspired by such freedom and unrestrained joy and relief. Thus, it must be forbidden, until a more substantial peace keeping force can be devoted to ensuring no drunkard cuts the throat of a repentant guard or no mob forms to lynch rumored remnants of the Yan's depraved way of life.

And even then, such a delay can only prevent the inevitable chaos should the forces of your army are delayed for longer than a week if you calculations measured by the contents of the majorities hearts and minds proves accurate.

"Cao Yunru, I must call upon your status once again, for I cannot hope to travel through the city to spread my command while so much toil yet remains to be done" You say, turning away from a withered man with a ragged beard who had began to question you of any memories you've held before your "Birth" after rambling about his theories of your nature, that you were either an avatar or child of a god named "Huángdì", while a minor noble lord with a wispy mustache whose father was among those executed offers his three sisters to you as brides while praising every breath you take.

"This humble scholar is ever willing to heed your call, oh wise Lieren, give to me the message that must be spread and I shall see that all in the capital hears your command" The rail thing lord says, trying to bow amidst the ever growing crowd that surrounds the both of you.
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>>4759392

"Tell me, oh great giant from the heavens, I must put forth another question for your consideration. Have you ever been aware of a disembodied guidance in the darkest moments of your journey? Perhaps strange, heavenly dreams that arrive upon the eve of days that would be contain fateful choices or meetings?" A cloudy eyed woman coos, countless beads and bells tied to her arms shaking as she reaches out towards you

"If there is any civic project or construction that is in dire needs of funding, my family would be honored to accept the privledge of paving the way towards it completion with our personal wealth, which I am told is quite prodigious even among the peerage of my fellows" A two chinned man squeaks, rubbing his hands together like a greedy merchant as he manages to push his way through the mob that has not left your side since you declared an end to the trial.

How have so many priests, monks, occultists and yet uncorrupted nobles survived in the very heart of the rot that has so weakened the kingdom? Its impressive that they have managed to keep themselves hidden and alive against such a oppressive and regressive regime, but it is rather irritating that they have all decided to crawl out from their burrows to pester you at a time when you can be afforded no reprieve nor respite from the work that requires your direct and personal attention.

"Inform the nobility that no celebration shall be held within the city or the lands that surround it until my army arrives to relieve the burden of the remaining guards" You say, tapping a finger upon your chin as you carefully consider how exactly to word your command. As your words seem to be the easiest to be misinterpreted once they have been spoken, and the entire city is listening to and watching your ever movement. It is best to prevent the growth and spread of troublesome rumors and misunderstanding before they can become problematic, after all.

"and alleviate the tension that is naturally produced when the responsibility of rulership is entrusted to a new government and leader. And ensure the apparent captain of the guard and remnants of the army spread the word among the commoners as well, so they do not start their own unofficial festival until order can be PROPERLY maintained!" You shout, to ensure Yunru can hear you over the cacophony of questions, promises, offers and oaths that threaten to drown even your mighty voice!

This is all beginning to become a little ridiculous. If you do not take in how you act and speak, you may find yourself declared as some kind of god emperor by less logical minds and more passionate hearts. The mere concept of such a thing inspires you to smile and laugh without reason. Shaking your head, you glance through the sea of bodies that surrounds you find Cao Yunru before he is hidden by the next group of fawning nobles, grateful souls, curious priests and fretful occultists.
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>>4759386
That part of the lore was inspired by Dune, they just cranked up the grimdarkness with servitors instead of mentats.
Same thing with the navigators and the God-Emperor thing.
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>>4759396

You spot him, as the unathletic man is pushed and bullied away from your side. Groaning, you pinch the bridge of your nose to help center yourself and keep your agitating from growing to misplaced rage.

"I understand! I understand!" The scholar shouts, before he is drowned out by the cries of a dozens of others.

"Do you consider any of the court of the wilds and agriculture to be your patron?!"
"Please! Take my son as you personal aid, your scribe, your shoe shiner! YOUR COOLIE!"
"How did you cultivate such a divine body and wisdom! What pills did you consume?! What training did you undergo! Where did you meditate master lieren!"
"I have many daughters, I can think of no groom better to be entrusted their care and hand in marriage!
"Take all of my wealth! All of my lands! I cannot repay the gift of life! If you wish I will die for you oh benevolent lord!"
"Please, instruct me to the proper ceremony and offerings to give to receive your blessing! The exact specifications of the ritual so we may not offend you in our worship!"
"I've heard word that your gospel has a focus upon an acceptance of death, what does that mean exactly"
"What do you mean by live generously and kindly?"
"I always told anyone who listened that the Yan were lying about your and the Journey, Lieren, and they never listened and where are those fools now, who ignored my wisdom! Hanging from the rooftops HAR HAR!"
"Please forgive this humble guard for spreading such foul libel and falsehoods to tarnish your good name, I truly believed you were the devil the tyrants spoke of"

Clenching your jaw, turn down a narrow alleyway and begin to clamber up the side of tavern's wall to escape the mob so you may find peace and sanctuary from their ceaseless babbling and questioning.

It is an easy task for one such as yourself, and soon you're making haste across the rooftops towards the rudimentary hospital that is hopefully already constructed in the estate of the Cao family. Luli and the other victims of the palace need your attention more gravely than the herd of sycophants you leave behind in the streets.

They deserve comfort and care, and in giving them such, you shall allow yourself time to think and plan what needs to be done first and foremost to prevent disaster or needless misunderstanding. Yan Weizha will be put out of his misery before you begin your next course of action, after you see to the injured and wounded.

But the question remains, what requires your attention and guidance? Time is a commodity in short supply, and there is little of it to waste. A single misstep or wasted moment could lead to dreadful consequence in the future.
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>>4759380
To be sincere, in less than 8 years, Lieren got a (wrongly earned) reputation of being a brutal and prolific hangman that makes a hobby out of decorating the forests of Shangrala with his enemies like they were fucking peaches. That added a funny side to the grimdark. Imagine if Lieren keeps being a non-grimdark and overall nice chad, but has this one aspect of his rule (the servitor part, a concession to Emps because Lieren is good, but also reasonable) that people blow out of proportion because all Primarchs, no matter what, have at least a weird or bad side, so this might be his. They don't realize thet Lieren's weird aspect is the fact that he talks and THINKS in poetry and likes to sing Pop songs the people made form him, while unleashing utter devastation upon his enemies...Lieren is a magical girl. Fuck
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>>4759400

What shall you do after caring for the wounded and abused, Lieren?
>Focus on peacekeeping efforts to avoid an unnecessary and tragic bloodshed.
>Gather the most influential members of each rung of society, and hold a gathering between them to explain yourself, your goals and beliefs to keep the populace from misunderstanding your intent
>Plan the careful and methodical destruction of the Celestial incarnation palace.
>Force the nobility and commoners to mingle, by telling stories of your travels and reading passages from your journey. Risk yourself to maintain order and prevent further violence
>write in

Also, a warning. There's only so much that can be done before The army arrives at the capital. So take that into consideration and remember that multiple options winning will eat up more of that time.
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>>4759411
>Gather the most influential members of society and hold a gathering

This is the most important thing we can do, make sure that the citizenry gets why we are here and under what pretenses. Once they understand our plan and the changes that shall be made, we can have that spread throughout the city and hence keep the babbling hoards quiet. Then until our peace keeping army is here
>Focus on peace keeping

Letting the nobles mix or destroying the palace can wait until we have more men here. Just forbid anyone from entering.
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>>4759411
>>Focus on peacekeeping efforts to avoid an unnecessary and tragic bloodshed.
>>Gather the most influential members of each rung of society, and hold a gathering between them to explain yourself, your goals and beliefs to keep the populace from misunderstanding your intent

Good good
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>>4759411
>Focus on peacekeeping efforts to avoid an unnecessary and tragic bloodshed.
>Gather the most influential members of each rung of society, and hold a gathering between them to explain yourself, your goals and beliefs to keep the populace from misunderstanding your intent
We are giving Dan Dan, Shen and Cao the honour of dealing with the palace.
>>4759401
That's true, unintentional grimdra is beat grimdark.
And your description makes Lieren seem less of a magical girl and more of a Yakuza protagonist.
The sailor clothing fits Khanzeon more, being a ship and all.
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>>4759411
>>Force the nobility and commoners to mingle, by telling stories of your travels and reading passages from your journey. Risk yourself to maintain order and prevent further violence
The other option to gather them will provoke hostility. Better to impress upon them what kind of we are and to get them used to each other.
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>>4759411
>Focus on peacekeeping efforts to avoid an unnecessary and tragic bloodshed.
>Gather the most influential members of each rung of society, and hold a gathering between them to explain yourself, your goals and beliefs to keep the populace from misunderstanding your intent

Demolishing the Palace can wait until the Army arrives.


>>4759446
If the nobility and the commoners mix right now we're going to get lynchings, not understandings. Unless you think we can sit on every meet-and-greet in the capitol?

We're going to have to work through the movers and shakers of Yan society anyway, if we want anything done without gratuitous violence. Might as well get them all on the same page.
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>>4759411
>>Focus on peacekeeping efforts to avoid an unnecessary and tragic bloodshed.
>>Gather the most influential members of each rung of society, and hold a gathering between them to explain yourself, your goals and beliefs to keep the populace from misunderstanding your intent
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>>4759411
>Focus on peacekeeping efforts to avoid an unnecessary and tragic bloodshed.
>Gather the most influential members of each rung of society, and hold a gathering between them to explain yourself, your goals and beliefs to keep the populace from misunderstanding your intent
Can we combine these two by also organizing with the influential members the peacekeeping efforts?
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>>4759411
>>Focus on peacekeeping efforts to avoid an unnecessary and tragic bloodshed.
>>Gather the most influential members of each rung of society, and hold a gathering between them to explain yourself, your goals and beliefs to keep the populace from misunderstanding your intent
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>>4759477
Of course, Lieren has always listened to the council and advise of those who are more experienced and knowledgeable in fields than he is and entrusted responsibilities to them if he thought they'd do a better job than he would.

There are Plenty of examples of him referring to others or allowing them to work in his stead in the quest so far.
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>>4759473
Trying to tell them that we intend to treat them all equally and we aren’t going to kill all the nobles will also turn a lot of people against us. We need to eliminate the resentment before it forms and get everyone comfortable with each other.
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>>4759401
To be fair, Lieren has killed a lot of officials, nobles, guards, tax collectors, generals, administrators, scholars, bandits, warlord...etc in his travels. Even during his service to the Gao

Especially during the service of the Gao, since he used his authority to weed out literally every corrupt/ wicked hearted noble in that region of the Yan Kingdom. Which is why by time he decided Gao needed to be removed from power, the land and its people fell very neatly into line since those in power were loyal to him and his cause, and the people had adored him for all of his humanitarian projects and work.

But from an outsider's perspective....
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>>4759489
Okay then we should do it that way if it saves more time. Try to also sent a messenger to the battling armies to hopefully end the fight by revealing the end of the Yan. Use the royal standard or something easily recognizable as the king's.
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>>4759515
Well, to be fair, is it really that bad to play judge, jury and executioner when you can literally gaze upon someone's soul and tell if they're guilty or not?
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>>4759518
It could be late but battles don t necesserally end in a day. They can take more. And at the very least it gives the good news to our soldiers and companions.
So let s have a messanger go to them, accompanied by some other men too (the lands are dangerous).
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>>4759515
Yeah, but we had a few years to do it right, a capable backroom maneuverer to help us, and official sanction.

Right now we have a day or two, a smart but politically naive scholar for a figurehead, and a city just ripe to go Reign of Terror if we give them permission.

The best we can do is keep the lid on until the Army arrives and tempers settle.

>>4759518
Supporting sending a messenger.
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>>4759518
>>4759527
>>4759532
If you are going this route why not send some proof of the Yan’s defeat?
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>>4759521
True. Lieren's ability to read people like open and large print books was well known before the "ogre" propaganda began, as were the stories that he could legitimately gaze in your heart/ soul and measure your worth without exchanging a single word with you.

Which is one reason even his close friends struggle to maintain eye contact with him. Lieren judging you isn't the most pleasant experience
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>>4759537
Do you have any suggestions for said proof?

Because as much as I'd like to send the fat bastard's head, I'm not sure there's a horse in the city that can carry it.
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>>4759553
Also you know, the last Yan king has been turned into a chaos spawn so it isn't exactly recognizable now
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>>4759537
I thought that would have been like something we would have done before sending the messangers. But yes, anything for show proof. The royal banner and other famous objects of Yang rule displayed by our chosen messanger arriving with his group.
No one of the soldiers there will make a mistake that Lieren of Nothing defeated the Yang.

And of course, a piece of panther pelt, signature is always important.
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>>4759537
The king's personal standard/scepter/seal/crown or something similar that is easily recognized as only used by the king should suffice in proving the claim that the Yan are defeated.
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>>4759553
Weizha doubtless had a bunch of royal trinkets. Find his crown or scepter or something and send it with the messenger. Hell, take his gold-plated opium pipe and toilet seat.
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>>4759560
*did not defeat
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>>4759553
>>4759560
What >>4759561 said.
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>>4759411
>Gather the most influential members of each rung of society, and hold a gathering between them to explain yourself, your goals and beliefs to keep the populace from misunderstanding your intent
>Force the nobility and commoners to mingle, by telling stories of your travels and reading passages from your journey. Risk yourself to maintain order and prevent further violence
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>>4759411
>Gather the most influential members of each rung of society, and hold a gathering between them to explain yourself, your goals and beliefs to keep the populace from misunderstanding your intent.
Then
>Focus on peacekeeping efforts to avoid an unnecessary and tragic bloodshed.

Basically, bigger picture first and crime issue later. If we are lucky, striking the iron of gratefulness while it's hot will allow our bullshit philosophy about helping others as best as you can (among other good stuff) will reduce crime rates and help at maintaining order and rebuilding the city. Then we finish the problems off by giving our personal attention to capturing and judging criminals
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>>4759446
Dude, the onpy option that will cause hostility is the one that starts with "Force the..."
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>>4759443
>>4759518
Fuck it, I will support sending a messenger with a proof of the Yan king's defeat, it might save lives.
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>>4759411
>Plan the careful and methodical destruction of the Celestial incarnation palace.
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>>4759411
>Focus on peacekeeping efforts to avoid an unnecessary and tragic bloodshed.
>Gather the most influential members of each rung of society, and hold a gathering between them to explain yourself, your goals and beliefs to keep the populace from misunderstanding your intent
The last two can come after we've ensured no tyrants have fled the capital, prioritizing the first choice over the second. Once the army arrives, we can go from top to bottom on the list of choices.

When we finally have the time, I'd like to gather to occultists, the monks of the Journey for a chit chat
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>>4759411
>>4759631
adding to this
>Send a messenger upon the royal family's finest steed to deliver news of Yan Weizha's death to your forces about to do battle.
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Somebody should edit this with Lieren telling a fatass noble he just wanted to farm. I'd do it, but my editing skills are zero
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>>4759643
Oh, and i know the iFunny watermark is there, i just don't really care, i grabbed the first image that came up on google.
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>>4759515
Kek, Horus "Number 1# Son Forever" Lupercal gets sent by a very daemon-busy Emps to bring Lieren into the Imperium, he sees our chad primarch and gets jealous.

>Emps: SO TELL ME, SON, WHAT IS YOUR BROTHER LIKE.
> HORUS: Oh, it's trutly horrible father, the information I've gathered speaks of this: As soon as he made planetfall he destroyed a village of humble, innocent people, then sepent days hunting all available beasts in the surrounding wilds and watching the farmers starve. He then named the village Nothing. One of his first inventions were guns and gunpowder, which he used to betray, dethrone and kill his previous lord and literally everyone loyal to him. He then went on a War of extermination against his lord's Emperor amd those loyal to him, the records of the time talk about vile magics, treasons an massacres of immense proportions, drawings depict him as a demonic, bloodthirsty and depraved Ogre, followed by an army of corrupted thralls that he controlled with his sorcery. Apparently he spends most of his days hanging people that go against him or writing a religious book that seems to talk about his life. People praise him like a god everywhere and he just stands there all day in a podium raising his arms wildly and shouting things that make the audience praise him even more. I have also detected heavy Warp corruption in several key areas, mainly the main cities. The biggest Warp corruption peaks are located inside a massive marble and gold palace that seems to use...human flesh as mortar. It seems to be undergoing widespread reforms even after a famine and war, the entire surface is covered in bamboo structures meant to support workers and architects. There is also the reports about his unnatural eyes and-
>Emps: [Teleports to Shangrala] WHAT THE FLYING FUCK IS HAPPENING IN HERE!!!
>Lieren: [Waving his arms wildly from a podium] STOP PRAISING ME, I'M NOT A GOD, I'M JUST A GIANTIC, MUSCLED PSYKER!!!
>People of Shangrala: OH HUMBLE LIEREN~ KIND GOLDEN EYES~ BRINGER OF PROSPERITY~ HE IS THE RIGHTFUL GOD-EMPEROR OF SHANGRALA!!!~
> EMPS: [Pats Lieren's back] You'll get used to it...but not.
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>>4759641
Adding this to my own vote >>4759476 as well.
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>>4759680
Nice, but my autism tells me Horus's description was too long. I'd cut it down to the part where he finds Lieren screaming in a palace made of flesh while people try to worship.

But yes, it IS funny how Lieren is basically doing the same thing as Emps.
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>>4759643
here's a quick edit.
Wanted to put something on their shirts, but I found nothing that would fit well in the space.
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>>4759745
Like Father like Son
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>>4759411
>>Focus on peacekeeping efforts to avoid an unnecessary and tragic bloodshed.
>>Gather the most influential members of each rung of society, and hold a gathering between them to explain yourself, your goals and beliefs to keep the populace from misunderstanding your intent

these two go hand in hand
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>>4759411
>Gather the most influential members of each rung of society, and hold a gathering between them to explain yourself, your goals and beliefs to keep the populace from misunderstanding your intent
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>>4759411
>>Focus on peacekeeping efforts to avoid an unnecessary and tragic bloodshed.
>>Gather the most influential members of each rung of society, and hold a gathering between them to explain yourself, your goals and beliefs to keep the populace from misunderstanding your intent
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>>4759680
>Does it ever get any easier Father?
>I will tell you when I found out.
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Should we not break the Celestial incarnation palace? seems to me leaving it be is asking for problems.
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>>4760803
We should, but doing it on a time crunch is a bad idea. We need to be thorough, I'll bet you anything that the basement is chock-full of nasty shit. Basements can survive the collapse of the building above it.
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>>4760816
Dandan is going to love us.
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>>4760803
We'll do it when we have the ordinance to do so in a safe and efficient manner.
>>4760858
She should consider this project the canvas for which she'll depict her masterpiece.
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>>4760803
We shall do it through the power song.
And the cannons will be the instruments.
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>>4760877
I thought we were chinese, not russians
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>>4761028
Making knockoffs is a famously Chinese thing to do.
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You know what would be poetic?
Getting all of the explosives that the Yan were going to use to destroy the city and using them to demolish the palace.
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>>4761114
Can't explode shit with wet powder.
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>>4761210
Than dry it or something, I don't know how gunpowder work, but I know it would make a good story.
Or put the barrels inside the palace if they can't be salvaged and make it symbolic atleast.
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Have some terrible art and imagine that Huli Jing is in there with 8 tails.
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>>4761230
Won't work.

Black powder is composed of charcoal(fuel), sulfur(more fuel) and saltpeter(oxidizer). The saltpeter is water-soluble, and enough of it will just wash it out. No saltpeter, no oxidizer, no boom.
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>>4761489
Thanks for the knowledge.
Guess I will have so settle for the symbolic victory of just putting the barrels in the palace and bombarding the place.
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>>4761477
Couldn't you have used the nine-tail fox demon that's already in the game if you wanted to represent Huli Jing?
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>>4761535
This.
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>>4761497
Worse: the powder might still be flammable or even explosive in spots where not enough water reached. We have no good way of telling.

We're going to have to dispose of the whole lot...very carefully.
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>>4761535
plus lieren looks like toki not akuma
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So it would look like this than?
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>>4761605
And impose a stock slanneshi demon to the body of the fox
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>>4761610
I don't remember it having a extra human body, just it's fox form.
But I will try to add some purple flames, horns or the slaneshi symbol.
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>>4761614
maybe something like this for its human form
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>>4759680
>>4759745
>>4759817
I wonder what they will think of the eleventh primarch

>>4761568
This is true. Gun powder, black powder, and many smokeless powders can still be explosive if it's only surface wet and happens internally. So best to be careful with it. Source: a recreational gunsmith.
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I may have added too many flames.
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>>4761735
>spoiler
I wonder what WE'LL think of him. Malal said he had a plan.
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>>4761788
I am as open to collaborate if malal is.
Should be interesting.
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>>4761761
>Dat Toki with the yanyuedao
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>>4761799
This was before XI Primarch Quest was running. Maybe plans have changed? The ASOIAF Quests all collaborated with each other to a degree, before Father quit and Boggs and Joe put their quests on ice. It'll be great either way. If we get a crossover, we get a crossover and the pros there speak for themselves. If we don't, Malal gets to use his prodigious talent for writing and worldbuilding to fill in one of the franchise's biggest blank spaces. I'm happy whichever road is taken.
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>>4761761
Very nice anon.
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>>4761799
Could be interesting, but it might have some problems due to the fact that you'd be having two player-driven primarchs. There's a reason why you don't usually have two protagonists work together.
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>>4761761
MORE FLAMES
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>>4762606
If I add anymore it would just get silly.
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>>4762701
That looks fantastic.
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Should've known better than to mention the machine spirits, since they are spiteful. Calling the vote now.

Gather the most influential members of each rung of society, and hold a gathering between them to explain yourself, your goals and beliefs to keep the populace from misunderstanding your intent: 13

Focus on peacekeeping efforts to avoid an unnecessary and tragic bloodshed:11

Force the nobility and commoners to mingle, by telling stories of your travels and reading passages from your journey. Risk yourself to maintain order and prevent further violence:2

Send a messenger upon the royal family's finest steed to deliver news of Yan Weizha's death to your forces about to do battle:5

Plan the careful and methodical destruction of the Celestial incarnation palace.:1

Total votes: 15

So Lieren shall gather the leaders of the various "factions" within the capital city and explain to them himself, his goals and his beliefs to keep the populace from misunderstanding any of them.

And work together with them to maintain peace and order within the city, and prevent any further needless death.

Writing now

Sorry again for the wait.

>>4761605
>>4761761
>>4762701
Looks incredible, anon. great work

>>4761477
>>4759771
Lol great work here to.

>>4759680
Hehe, that makes me imagine a scenario, where due to widespread rumors and Lieren's work ethic keeping him from interacting with most of his brothers, he is wrongfully considered to be like curze or angron, because he is too focused on fulfilling his responsibility to the great crusade to clear up the misunderstanding of his character and mingle with his brothers outside of battle.

So like Khan, when the heresy starts, his loyalty is unknown and he's a wild card, since all most of the primarchs have heard about him were fragments of the Journey and mistranslations made by unskilled remembrancers who couldn't handle the sheer poetic girth of Shangrala's languages.

Which leads to Logar, being the one primarch to try and study the Journey besides Magnus, the Nerd, to assuming Lieren is like him and sending a force of his sons to welcome him offically to team chaos.

Only to get yelled at by Daddy Kor, long after he sent the marines on the mission. And the next time that contingent of word bearers is seen, they are hanging outside of the fortifications Lieren built when he realized that a civil war had broken out as he continued to build a road in the outer reaches of the imperium, and thus decided to hunker down and make the iron cage look like a sand castle.

Probably won't go down like that, but the idea amuses me
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>>4761788
I do have a plan for this quests version of the 11th.

>>4761799
Funnily enough, some people have guessed what the 11th would be in this quest early one. And Kolinasi was both scarily close to it and also very different from it. Made me almost consider changing my plans, but I figured they'd still be different enough that I shouldn't need to.

>>4761903
>>4762386
Yeah, a complete crossover and intermingling of the quests would be difficult and probably be A disaster as I do not know enough about maori to capture the feel of old man's characters, and it'd quickly become overtly cumbersome to keep both storylines connected whilst maintaining continuity

However, I am fine with references, cameos and non canon crossovers. Things that won't effect the outcome of either quests, since I don't like stepping on other people's toes .
Maybe a collab where warp shenanigans swap one or both of the BIG BOYS into the universe of the other's quest.

That may be fun. Dunno. Maybe a holiday event could be made out of it.
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>>4762983
>make the iron cage look like a sand castle
If we do that, I think Pert might kill himself.
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>>4762993
>What do you mean the Iron warriors have just launched their entire fleet into the eye of terror with their gellar fields off?
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>>4762990
>And Kolinasi was both scarily close to it and also very different from it.
Ok lads, now we know that the Malal's 11th is either a technomancer, naval admiral, tribal leader or has a functioning family and childhood.
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>>4763012
>has a functioning family and childhood
wholesomedark
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>>4762983
It'd suprise me that Erebus isn't sent to meet us, though it makes sense that the gods tell him to stay the fuck away.
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>>4763062
True, the last thing you want is to have your corruptor approach the guy who can literally see the evil emanating off people.

But, depending on whether or not Malal's changing the order, Lieren would be found before Erebus was. In the real story, the IInd Primarch was the third to be found.

I mean, when we got that viewpoint of other people in the galaxy, didn't Erebus wake up in the middle of the night while still on his planet?
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>>4763227
I think the one that got the message to fear the golden eyes was Kor Phaeron.
But either he still was on his planet as a normal human, so the the crusade hasn't reached Colchis yet.
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>>4763227
Kor Phaeron got the message and he was looking at Lorgar.

So we still have time to be found. Khor lived a long time.
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The most logical course of action would be to focus on maintaining the fragile peace that has settled over the capital city, held only by your presences and lingering feelings of vindication fostered by the public denouncement and executions of the worst of the villains once protected and cultivated beneath the wings of the Yan dynasty.

It would be a great tragedy should any innocent man or woman, from any rung of society or position within it, were wrongfully killed for the wild accusations of furious and scared citizens seeking to emulate your wisdom and keen perception. If the people are not kept content and calm, even children may become the target of such well intentioned extremists among the peasantry and common laborers of the city as well as those who had once been held captive by the Yan court themselves. There is a great resentment hanging over the collective mind's of the city, like the miasma of a corpse left to rot in the street or the ever present fog that blankets much of the land.

Greater and more taxing works can wait until your army can be given the burden of maintaining order and civility among the many desperate castes of society. Until the arrival of the banners that march at your command, the duty shall remain upon your shoulders and every death caused by a lax in your attention or efforts will be rightfully laid at your feet as a fault in your capabilities, judgement and attention.

Even one who stands naturally above the pinnacle of most men, a man cannot hope to be the sole pillar holding up the vestiges of a conquered society, unless he was a great fool indeed. No, the intelligent thing to do is to instead trust the community itself to maintain the façade of a functioning and unified civilization until a proper foundation for its reconstruction can be built to ensure that the people of ever station and walk of life will not fear or despise their neighbors.

But, trusting many to do the work of one, is also quite a foolish thing to do and would only succeed into gathering groups with the unofficial sanction to carry out revenge killings and other similar crimes in the name of retribution. Such a misguided efforts will only serve to further wound the delicate balance that has kept the capital from being devoured by the sea of turmoil, and consumed by a storm of passion and fear. Men's hearts after all, are very dangerous things. Even the meekest of men can be driven to commit atrocity to protect what he loves and himself.

Thus, the responsibility of preserving the fragile order so peace may continue, must fall upon the shoulders of the virtuous few. Pillars of the community already known and well regarded by their peers, figureheads that shall carry forth your decries and command portions of the restoration effort in your stead. Men and women, who shall calm the wild emotions raging within the hearts of the city, and control those who already follow and admire them.
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>>4763276

They shall be taken from every class and profession of the city, and gathered as a council of advisors. Cao Yunru and his wife Cao Yanyu, are well respected in both the circles of scholars and the remaining nobility, as a prodigy of intellect who has committed his life to the cultivation of knowledge and creation of new technology, and a saintly woman who is responsible for saving the lives of many patricians who was according to rumor a darling of the lesser courts within the city.

Appointing the two of them, shall calm the members of the house of Ding, one of the largest noble families to remain within the capital and the relation of Can Yanyu. They present the greatest danger within the nobility, should they be threatened with bloodshed or even complete extermination. It will be wise to give them the concession, privledge and insurance provided by two seats upon the peacekeeping council.

Rubbing your chin, you consider who else will need to be placated. Which professions, classes, circles, and echelons of society still present within the capital that will be able to effectively lead themselves and others, and pacify any erstwhile acts of rebellion and mob justice.

The remnants of the army, the city guard, the laborers, and the many spirtual and religious sects within the city.

Luli grunts, drawing your mind back to the world and your attentions to the courageous paitent laid out on a table before you. It would seem the loyal disiple had noticed the look concern and consideration deeply drawn upon your face. Smiling gently, you calm her with a reassuring brush to her cheek.

"Do not fret over me, be more concerned with yourself. I am merely searching for the answers to the problems that yet plague the city and her people. I'm fine, though somewhat overwhelmed" You admit, smiling warmly as you kneel down to her side, glancing to check the fresh stitching and bandages covering her body searching for any torn seams or loose binding.

Luli weakly reaches for your cheek, to return the gesture. You bow your head so she will not have to strain herself. And then feel her trace one of her remaining fingers across your skin, tracing the characters for "Hero" "Devotion" and "People"

Smiling, you gently guide her arm back to the bed you have given her, and smile a bit broader as you see the kind smirk upon her damaged lips.

"Such praise is wasted upon me, my friend, all I am is a kind man who cannot stand idle by and watch as his fellow men suffer. To name me a hero, is a compliment I do not believe I deserve. All I am is a gentle soul" You whisper, gingerly moving wayward locks and strands of hair from her eyes

All she does is shake her head, and mouth the word "incorrect". What a kind hearted girl, she understands that her attempts at speaking without a tongue upset and distress her fellow patients. Warmth swells with in your chest, washing over and spreading through the rest of your body like a cool spring rain.
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>>4763277

"I promise, I shall see you recover, and heal and the world shall be once again blessed by your voice . Rest your body, heal and never forget the light of hope that has allowed your gentle spirit to endure the cruelest of treatments, to reach the salvation deserved by the kind and virtuous" You say, standing once more to leave her side "Please forgive me, for I must leave your side, for there is other work I must attend to personally"

She nods in understanding.

"Cao Yunru, I entrust these patients to your care, for you alone are suitably educated and knowledgeable to take my place as their physician while I am away seeing to other matters" You say as you pass the scholar by, as he struggles to keep a blind man from scratching off the stiches in his arms.

"I am honored to be held in such regard and honored with such trust by a man as great as yourself, Wise Lieren" He huffs as the man thrashes and complains, as one of the mad painter's victims whines as another assistant applies a protective salve upon their wounds

Nodding, you leave the hospital built in the courtyard of the Cao estates, and head towards the Celestial incarnation Palace to at last execute Yan Weizha, or rather what remains of the bloated fox after Huli Jing devoured the pitiful excuse for a man he was.

Then, you can find those who are respected and trusted by the people to recruitment to the peacekeeping council, and gather them together so you may explain to them your motives and beliefs, and do your best to show them your true character and personality, so they may know you as well as you know yourself. Then, when an understanding is reached, they shall be entrusted with the duty to maintain order in the absence of your army. And you may see to other matters without the worry that those who were saved by your hand, will be punished and slain by it as well.

Further discord must be prevented, the city cannot be allowed to be further tarnished by the blood of the pure hearted and innocent. Chaos will not take root within the city, and the seething turmoil beneath the mask of civilized coexistence shall be scrubbed away and replaced with true unity and understanding.
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"Your victory is absolute, General Gao" Yin Lei said with a queer and amused smile that appeared entirely foreign to his other wise stern features, the old warrior seemed to have regained several years of his misspent youth, the grey hairs in his beard were well hidden by the morning's light.

The fog was unusually thin as well, which Daiyu knew the black general, noble Jinhai or perhaps Lieren himself would be remembered as predicting in advance. In truth, it was a stroke of pure fortune. Such unforeseen clarity allowed for many advantages that would have otherwise been impossible to achieve over any foe, yet alone one as dangerous as Yan Zihao. Though now, the field of battle was clouded by black smoke, the fires of burning corpses and grass.
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>>4763280

The woman who had caused such destruction, road blissfully by Daiyu's side, eyes clouded by a joy the lady general hoped she would never feel herself.

"Ah, I remember when I told your father the same, when his father, the contemptible Gao Long, forced him to lead an army against a revolt that rose up for similar reasons to our own rebellion" The black general mused, closing his eyes as the past once more aged his features. Oh, so that was why he seemed so amused. Daiyu smirked as she realized the humor of the situation herself.

A Gao road, with Yin Lei and a Tao at her side, and behind her road a guard once employed by her household. How serendipitous, that she would be accompanied by those who were once servants of her family, as she observed the outcome of her first victory in war.

"Though I imagine, her father, did not win the battle through his own cunning and wit" Jinhai said with a voice as gentle as an autumn breeze, eyes ever focused on the world around him, searching and seeking for any dangers yet unseen that may threaten Daiyu herself. While it stirred something mysterious within her heart, it also somewhat amused her. As it was another example of the bizarre coincidence of the situation.

For his duty prior to being chosen by Lieren, was to guard her horrible father. Which was reflected in his current alertness.

"Of course not, even though it was not a proper battle, he saw fit to summon that brute Cui Hu to lead his forces against farmers and potters who grew tired of being forced to subsisted upon park and wood lice" Yin Lei said, making a show of his disgust by spitting upon the ground.

"And, our esteemed black general is incorrect" Tao Dandan cackled, eyes opening to show to the world the reverie she had been entranced and lost within from the very moment Daiyu ordered her to unleash the full power of those machines of war she obsessed over. The sky itself had turned red, before it became blotted black and hidden by smoke.

"What do you mean, Lady Dandan?" Daiyu asked, struggling o maintain her composure as she saw a Yin soldier being fed upon by carrion birds, Hook Ravens and Night Cranes, that scattered as her entourage approached

"I am mountain bred, my eyes are only duller than Lieren's own and a handful of others who stand by his side, so you may not be able to perceive the sights that I am able to, but throw your gaze to the horizon, Lady Daiyu" Dandan said, amusement tinging every word that she spoke.

"Does what you see pose a threat to our general?" Jinhai demanded, raising his voice for the first time around Daiyu. Such depth of emotion seemed oddly out of place for the ever calm minded man, yet it somehow excited Daiyu's heart.

"No" The Panther man named Feng said, as Jinhai road ahead of Daiyu, accompanied by the cyclops Rong and the maimed Zian "It's just an old man, carrying the burnt Banner of the Yan in one hand, and a shoddy rifle in the other"
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>>4763282

"Seems he's managed to fight off one of the screamers led by the five Vishnu Chiefs" Dandan added as Jinhai shot back an incredulous stare, which brought a renewed smile to Daiyu's lips

"He's a speck on the horizon, I am not a skeptical man, but I must doubt the sharpness of both of your visions. Forgive me for my disbelief, honored friends" Jinhai barked, as Rong chuckled by his side and shook his head

"You've managed to get a rise out of him, impressive scar face" The older man laughed "its difficult to make brother Jinhai's doll like mask budge, let alone pull it off entirely"

"I am a hunter, trained by Brother Lieren, I know what I see. I trust my eyes as much as I trust his own. Its an old, white haired man, weighed down by golden armor, lurching towards our forces with a manic grin" Feng said simply, ignoring the insult spoken to him by Jinhai's fellow guard.

And then it struck Daiyu, as she caught a glimpse of Yin Lei's grimacing face contorted with disbelief and barely restrained rage.

Yan Zihao. His survival should have been impossible! Both Lai Song and Aruna reported meeting him at the beginning of the battle, before the majority of their forces fled or surrendered, before even the massacre of the imposter Yin's forces! A chill crawled down Daiyu's spine. Perhaps it was a ghost? Or perhaps some form of foul sorcery? Lieren had warned them that the Yan had resorted to such shameful tactics before, but it sounded like the man's usual symbolism and poetic verse at the time!

How could a man, more aged than Dai Niu, More aged than Lord Yin Jie! Could have survived a pitched battle and Dandan's Barrage, to impudently march alone to face the Giant's army again! It was so boldly audacious, Daiyu was shocked to silence by just the concept of it.

"That stubborn dog!" Yin Lei barked as the burnish gold banner of the old fox danced mockingly on the horizon "Even in defeat he flaunts his pride and imagined superiority for all to see! Such hubris!! I can stand the sight of it!"

"Oh...I could've sworn I put a bullet directly into his chest. It will be most unsettling if he still walks among the living" Feng muttered

Jinhai clicked his tongue.

"I threw the spear that knocked him from his horse, and into the massed Screamers surrounding us" A man, surrounded by a disquieting air spoke quietly ":When I was following behind uh...Bai and Xin I think"

"I believe you, Brother Dong" Feng whispered.

"I heard Lai song boast he trampled the man myself" Dandan said, more bemused than anything, as she began to fan herself "If he survived all that, and the direct attention of my darling artillery, I would doubt his humanity"

"Impossible" Daiyu muttered, a feeling of dread washing over her heart. It was illogical, the man was alone, withered and crooked with age, yet there he walked, as if backed by an army that eclipsed her own in both size and training.
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>>4763290

Is this how her villain of a father felt? When he saw Lieren's golden eyes fill with disgust and wrath? the man's presence, though so distant still, felt akin to Lieren's own, when she raised her own spear again him! The old fox must have one last trick up his sleeve, for him to stride forth and march so confidently amongst the dead and dying.

Then, Daiyu heard, by her one sense not clouded by the surrounding smoke and stench of spilt blood. A song no one else heard.

A song she knew well. A song of the previous dynasty. A patriotic chant of the Yan. Hearing it again, when she heard her drunk of a father sing it so often in her youth, made her skin crawl.

"For, who amongst beast or men, are so noble and cunning, as the house of Yan!
For, who beneath the heavens, are blessed with such grace and wisdom, as the line of Yan!
For, who can compare to the jade like beauty and flawless grace, as the blessed family of Yan!"
For, which kingdom beneath the heavens can match the wealth and glory, as the kingdom of Yan!"
For, there are none within this world or any other who can compete with the men of Yan!
Oh hear my song, Celestial courts both heavenly and divine, both benevolent and kind!
For it is the song of a proud man of Yan, groomed from birth to embody the virtues of the people and kingdom"
For, nothing can make me prouder, can fill me with purer joy and bliss, than knowing I was born amongst the Yan, Beneath the Yan and Within Yan!"

"Courts above" Daiyu hissed, biting her bottom lip in irritation and worry, as she struggled to understand how, out of all men who fought this day, he had survived! How the old fox, Yan Zihao, had managed to evade his rightful reward for his wickedness

"Your orders, my most graceful Lady?" Jinhai asked, as Daiyu pondered what would most please her most forgiving master. The black general had spoken of being given tests as similarly confusing and troubling as the one that lay before her now. Perhaps...perhaps Lieren had planned the entirety of this battle so she may contend with her nature and answer the question of her worth? It seemed ridiculous, yet wholly believeable as well.

What was the answer she'd give to Lieren, upon his return. Her thoughts became fraught with internal turmoil and questions without answer.
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Pouring yourself a cup of hot tea, you pulled your eyes over the leaders of city's people who you have gathered to serve as your advisors, that you trust enough to consider both their council and suggestions for the decisions yet to come.

Cao Yunru sat at your side, nervously sipping at his cup of coffee bean slurry, as his wife Cao Yanyu picked apart a pastry the owner of the tea house had given to her as a gift, her rose tinted cheeks framing a casual smile as she sat besides her husband. Unlike Yunru's eyes, which were tired and meek, his wife's eyes were filled with glee and the joy of a woman meeting her husband's dear friend for the first time.
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>>4763292

Upon the seat next to you, sat the man respected by every worker, laborer, builder and craftsman of the city. He was nearly the size of Small Chen, and wore a scruffy red beard colored like raw clay. Upon his head was wrapped a grime covered cloth. He was called Xiaojian. And from the short conversation you had upon meeting the man, after gleaming his worth and being recommended him above all others of his station, was very much like you in character. If you had remained in Nothing, he may have led a rebellion in your place! His grey eyes twitched from the other advisors, watching each with a warry suspicion.

To his other side, sat the priestess who called herself Kuan Im , after a goddess worshipped as the Progenitor of the Yan people who descended from the heavens to birth them upon the cradle of Shangrala. Among the numerous hidden occultists and worshippers with the capital, she was the one who most agreed held the most theological and spiritual knowledge. That fact, when combined with the fact she gave off the same presence as venerable Guozhi and approached you by sharing the origin of her name, is why she was chosen to represent the religious people of the city.

Besides, it was best to foster a relation with her now, so you may ask of Kuan Im at a later date, as the myth reminded you of your distant friend Kanzeon.

At the opposite side of the table, sat the head of the city guard and the man who had been given the duty of protecting it from threats from within or without. Liu Gen, A tired man around the same age as Lai song or Yin Lei, his hair was a queer golden color and hung to his shoulders. He had thought you had come to execute him, and was still quite ashamed by the misunderstanding. He also seemed rather off put by the distinct of serving upon the city council. Unlike his Contemporary in the army, the General tasked with leading the fractions of the Yan army that were kept in Reserve.

Gold tooth Wei . A minor noble who you understood was a bastard of some off shoot branch of the Yan dynasty who were removed from sucession for marrying into commoners. You named him gold tooth, because he had one, and you already know too many ways to simply refer to him as Wei. Shaved head Wei, Red faced Wei, Eel eater Wei, Broken Foot Wei...the list is rather expansive in truth.

With you as the seventh, the council sat in silence around the table, with only the tea shops owner to hear the proceedings.

None besides Cao Yunru and Cao Yanyu had ever met before, and so there was an air of awkwardness and mild confusion surrounding the meeting.

Kuan Im shook the many beads on her arms, plucking at the bone needles threaded into her oversized and overtly colorful robes, the turban of silk hiding her grey hair following eschew as her cloudy eyes stared into nothing. Liu Gen nervously twirl his mustache around his finger, his bone thin cheeks still flushed red as he considered how to forget the embarrassment of your earlier meeting
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>>4763295

Gold tooth Wei sneered, and sipped at his wine, his trailing goatee fluttering against his chest as he waited for someone else to initiate a conversation. Xiaojian sat in silence, tapping his fingers impatiently upon his arms as he cracked his square jaw once.

There would be no better time than to explain yourself to the six and reveal to them the truth of "Great Lord Lieren" so they may, through better understanding, be more at ease while dealing with you. And may more easily gleam the true intent of your orders and commands.

What do you tell the Council, Lieren?
>"I never wanted to fight a war. I was driven to prepare and wage one, by the tyrants who ruled these lands. My one desire in life, was to spread prosperity and share the bounty of my knowledge with all others who lived upon Shangrala. In the name of progress, in the name of kindness, in an act of boundless generosity and mercy, I have stained my hands red with the blood of countless men"

>"Understand, all who sit around this table are virtuous. And hence, can be trusted to act in my stead. You are like myself, men and women who wish to do what's best for the people and Land. Men and women, who would give up their lives or toil endlessly if it meant bettering society. You, are all the breed of man that can be trusted to lead society and I need your assistance gravely in ensuring the city survives"

>"The Journey teaches "Learn from others, ponder their actions, do not turn your head from the foreigner, but learn from him. Do not fear the unknown, but embrace it. Every meeting is a chance to gain understanding, and this grander wisdom than any text can give you. For the knowledge gained from knowing your fellow man, from mingling with them and learning from them, is a far greater gift than any other. A farmer can teacher a fisherman much, a blacksmith can tutor a soldier, a noble man has much to learn from his servants. Do not lock yourself away from the world, but wander freely and learn from your fellow man, instead of hating or fearing him". Understand this wisdom, and we may begin our work together.

>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."

>Write in?

Sorry again for the wait. I always feel so shitty when my shitty internet or shitty computer keeps me from giving you guys an update. fucking machine spirits
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>>4763298
our army is about to get messed up...

>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."

>"I never wanted to fight a war. I was driven to prepare and wage one, by the tyrants who ruled these lands. My one desire in life, was to spread prosperity and share the bounty of my knowledge with all others who lived upon Shangrala. In the name of progress, in the name of kindness, in an act of boundless generosity and mercy, I have stained my hands red with the blood of countless men"
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>>4763298
>>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."
>>"I never wanted to fight a war. I was driven to prepare and wage one, by the tyrants who ruled these lands. My one desire in life, was to spread prosperity and share the bounty of my knowledge with all others who lived upon Shangrala. In the name of progress, in the name of kindness, in an act of boundless generosity and mercy, I have stained my hands red with the blood of countless men"
I feel like these two can be combined nicely.
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>>4763298
>>>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."
>>>"I never wanted to fight a war. I was driven to prepare and wage one, by the tyrants who ruled these lands. My one desire in life, was to spread prosperity and share the bounty of my knowledge with all others who lived upon Shangrala. In the name of progress, in the name of kindness, in an act of boundless generosity and mercy, I have stained my hands red with the blood of countless men"

Our heart and mind is both with our people and army. And they have our teachings.
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>>4763298
>I was born in winter
>I never wanted to fight a war.

YAN ZIHAO! YOU MAD MAN, BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
oh that makes me so so happy, holy shit.
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>>4763298
>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."
>"I never wanted to fight a war. I was driven to prepare and wage one, by the tyrants who ruled these lands. My one desire in life, was to spread prosperity and share the bounty of my knowledge with all others who lived upon Shangrala. In the name of progress, in the name of kindness, in an act of boundless generosity and mercy, I have stained my hands red with the blood of countless men"
Don't worry about it. A late update is better than no update at all and it couldn't be helped anyway. When we talk with the priestess, we should ask where the goddess supposedly gave birth to the people. That might be the location of another of Kanzeon's sisters.
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>>4763298
>>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."
>>"I never wanted to fight a war. I was driven to prepare and wage one, by the tyrants who ruled these lands. My one desire in life, was to spread prosperity and share the bounty of my knowledge with all others who lived upon Shangrala. In the name of progress, in the name of kindness, in an act of boundless generosity and mercy, I have stained my hands red with the blood of countless men"
Zihao, you mad bastard... Hope he's still around by the time we meet Leman, they'll hit it off.
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>>4763361
I'm hoping that he's going to lay down the banner in parlay, but I guess this goes to show that beware the old geniuses of Shangrila.
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>>4763354
>>4763361
>>4763364
From the way he talked during the battle he didn't seem that he wanted to fight anymore. Maybe he is trying to see if Lieren is there or who the generals that defeated him are by using what tricks he has to stay alive(some hologram producing machine?).
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>>4763366
He did want to die there, so perhaps a surrender and request he be killed.

Got to say though, I'm disappointed in Yin's rage and DanDan's murder lust. I expected them to have a better grip by this point.
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>>4763385
I am curious as to the general character of Yan Zihao. Yin Lei and Yan Weizha both dislike him so I'm not certain he is corrupt or not or has done bad things before.
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>>4763298
>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."
>"I never wanted to fight a war. I was driven to prepare and wage one, by the tyrants who ruled these lands. My one desire in life, was to spread prosperity and share the bounty of my knowledge with all others who lived upon Shangrala. In the name of progress, in the name of kindness, in an act of boundless generosity and mercy, I have stained my hands red with the blood of countless men"
Yan you fucking madman, are you going to take Cui Fu's title as best boy?
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>>4763391
Yin is angry because the enemy general of the family he hates above all others and blames for all the woes of his millitary campaign, despite losing nearly all his men and clearly being unable to win, has lifted his families banner [the sign of still being proud and unbroken] and marched towards his foe singing a song declaring his families superiority.

I get why he is angry, I'm just disappointed that he doesn't respect the old man's survival and focuses on his wrath.
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>>4763391
Yin apparently also did a bunch of bad things and than later regretted it as he became older and lost his son, so maybe Yan was something similar? He was a loyal monster but than grew jaded as he nephew became nore corrupted?
>>4763385
The downside of us voting to fuck off everybattle and do a specops on the leadership is that Lieren isn't there to command it and see their emotions, I hope they end up showing it later so we can nip it in the bud.
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>>4763298
>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."
>"I never wanted to fight a war. I was driven to prepare and wage one, by the tyrants who ruled these lands. My one desire in life, was to spread prosperity and share the bounty of my knowledge with all others who lived upon Shangrala. In the name of progress, in the name of kindness, in an act of boundless generosity and mercy, I have stained my hands red with the blood of countless men"
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>>4763404
"Downside" is a bit iffy there. This gives them the chance to learn by themselves which isn't bad, it's if they don't ever improve that it's a problem.
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>>4763404
If he ends up being virtuous, he could join us and help pacify the rest of the Yan vassals. There are four left that we know of(what remains of the Kang and the Xue and the relatives of the two nobles killed along with Gao Liwei, though they were apparently focused on their civil war).
>>4763404
Just wait for the war's end and them rejoining Lieren. He will see any problems in their souls and try to help them.
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>>4763422
It can be a bit of a problem because Chaos is going to be very buthurt and they definatly are going to try and corrupt or use them to get revenge.
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>>4763423
He also said he hid the non-corrupted Yan, so getting him to our side can stop a potential loyalist revolution in the future.
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>>4763422
You know, it will be funny if Lieren ends up commanding an army for the first time against a future human enemy and because of the rumors that he never commanded his battles and left, the enemy will think him a novice general that is just a good orator and underestimate him.
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>>4763435
I'll laugh even further if we managed to sneak up on the war council and all they can see is our burning gold eyes from the gloom
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>>4763435
Or they will be paranoid it's a doppelganger and the real Lieren is about to assassinate them.
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>>4763434
Well people can just use that as an excuse anyway, they can just say that anyone on Lieren's side is a traitor and only the Yan on their side are the true members of the family(which they can be only figureheads).
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>>4763441
I was assuming that the future enemy general will not be very knowledgeable about Lieren except from rumors. More competent enemies will be more paranoid. Just wait for someone to start using elite assassins against Lieren's generals(though not against Lieren himself as unless they are daemon-tier or Cui Fu-tier they will simply fail) mirroring somewhat what Lieren has done in war.
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Can’t wait for Zihao to realize he’s fighting a Gao and Lieren is at the capital. That might make him laugh.
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>>4763298
>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."

>"The Journey teaches "Learn from others, ponder their actions, do not turn your head from the foreigner, but learn from him. Do not fear the unknown, but embrace it. Every meeting is a chance to gain understanding, and this grander wisdom than any text can give you. For the knowledge gained from knowing your fellow man, from mingling with them and learning from them, is a far greater gift than any other. A farmer can teacher a fisherman much, a blacksmith can tutor a soldier, a noble man has much to learn from his servants. Do not lock yourself away from the world, but wander freely and learn from your fellow man, instead of hating or fearing him". Understand this wisdom, and we may begin our work together.

I feel like we shouldn't pick the first option. This is the kind of option that has the potential to have long-lasting consequences, and it really isn't smart to teach nobles that it's okay to murder when it's for THE GREATER GOOD

I mean, Lieren can do it because he can literally judge people with his eyes. It's literally his superpower, he is able to objectively tell whether you are good or bad.

I mean, if these people, along with our own friends, end up being the nobles that will rule Shangrala when we depart, do we REALLY want them to think that it's okay to kill people because Great Good since Lieren did it?
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>>4763461
Well, he already knows he is fighting a Gao and that Lieren isn't present, but he probably doesn't know we are at the capital sorting things out.
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>>4763463
Lieren already said that he expects his Journey will in the future be used as an excuse for evil deeds or that it will be corrupted but that is the way of things and everything eventually changes. As long as he is alive, he can figure something to solve any problems that arise especially from misunderstandings.
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Of course if someone was paranoid he might consider that this Yan Zihao is actually a Slaaneshi doppelganger that tries to assassinate the leading generals as revenge for Huli Jing's defeat.
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>>4763473
Yes, but that doesn't mean we should try to speed up the process. It just doesn't seem wise to say "It's okay to kill for THE GREATER GOOD"
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>>4763298
>>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."
>>"The Journey teaches "Learn from others, ponder their actions, do not turn your head from the foreigner, but learn from him. Do not fear the unknown, but embrace it. Every meeting is a chance to gain understanding, and this grander wisdom than any text can give you. For the knowledge gained from knowing your fellow man, from mingling with them and learning from them, is a far greater gift than any other. A farmer can teacher a fisherman much, a blacksmith can tutor a soldier, a noble man has much to learn from his servants. Do not lock yourself away from the world, but wander freely and learn from your fellow man, instead of hating or fearing him". Understand this wisdom, and we may begin our work together.
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>>4763480
It reads way more as Lieren trying to explain himself than saying it was for the greater good, especcially with the other one, giving the enphasys on saying that he stained himself, like it was a sad sacrifice he did, rather than it was a good thing and you should do it to everyone.
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>>4763396
But I will change the >never wanted to fight a war to
>"The Journey teaches "Learn from others, ponder their actions, do not turn your head from the foreigner, but learn from him. Do not fear the unknown, but embrace it. Every meeting is a chance to gain understanding, and this grander wisdom than any text can give you. For the knowledge gained from knowing your fellow man, from mingling with them and learning from them, is a far greater gift than any other. A farmer can teacher a fisherman much, a blacksmith can tutor a soldier, a noble man has much to learn from his servants. Do not lock yourself away from the world, but wander freely and learn from your fellow man, instead of hating or fearing him". Understand this wisdom, and we may begin our work together.
The being born in winter is justification enough in retrospect, don't want to seem like we are washing our hands from what we did, otherwise we get tankies.
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>>4763484
Kind of, but it also feels like am "Yes, killing people is bad and all, but i did it for good", which implies that killing countless people can be justified if it's for prosperity.
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>>4763298
>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."
>"I never wanted to fight a war. I was driven to prepare and wage one, by the tyrants who ruled these lands. My one desire in life, was to spread prosperity and share the bounty of my knowledge with all others who lived upon Shangrala. In the name of progress, in the name of kindness, in an act of boundless generosity and mercy, I have stained my hands red with the blood of countless men"
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>>4763298
>>>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."
>>>"I never wanted to fight a war. I was driven to prepare and wage one, by the tyrants who ruled these lands. My one desire in life, was to spread prosperity and share the bounty of my knowledge with all others who lived upon Shangrala. In the name of progress, in the name of kindness, in an act of boundless generosity and mercy, I have stained my hands red with the blood of countless men"
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>>4763354
Supporting this.
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>>4763298
>>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."

>"The Journey teaches "Learn from others, ponder their actions, do not turn your head from the foreigner, but learn from him. Do not fear the unknown, but embrace it. Every meeting is a chance to gain understanding, and this grander wisdom than any text can give you. For the knowledge gained from knowing your fellow man, from mingling with them and learning from them, is a far greater gift than any other. A farmer can teacher a fisherman much, a blacksmith can tutor a soldier, a noble man has much to learn from his servants. Do not lock yourself away from the world, but wander freely and learn from your fellow man, instead of hating or fearing him". Understand this wisdom, and we may begin our work together.


I wonder if we can honor Cao Yunru and Yanyu by making their son, who's not born yet, a member of our legion. To honor the bravery of the father as it were.
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>>4763674
>I wonder if we can honor Cao Yunru and Yanyu by making their son, who's not born yet, a member of our legion. To honor the bravery of the father as it were.
He can earn his position like everybody else.
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>>4763690
I meant more like, give him the opportunity, no one can just /become/ a space marine.
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>>4763747
He will get the opportunity to undertake the trials of our Legion if he shows the aptitude and interest for it.
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>>4763361
Supporting this
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So, have we conquered the planet, or just one country? Or has that even been established?
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>>4764366
Just one kingdom. But it's been a bitch and a half to get this far. Although I foresee success in taking control of the planet.
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>>4764366
From what I understand we’ve conquered the most powerful nation of them all, which aside from a few pockets of resistance (probably Vishnu) pretty much means we’ve conquered the planet since the other nations will probably fall in line pretty quick when we come knocking.
Which is good, because I wanna meet our legion soon. Also focus on base building and learning from Kanzeon for a while.
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Depending on how close big E is on conquering tera we may see him in 20 to 50 years depending on the order and when/if the canon events happens. Personally I hope it's close but not too close, so many things to do so little time and all that.
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>>4764388
Weren't the Astartes Legions made towards the tail end of the Unification Wars, phasing out the Thunder Warriors until 'Mt. Ararat'? Then it'll be the genecults on Luna, where the Emperor's Children's geneseed gets infected with the Blight, the aliens who's name I forget over by Saturn, and then it's outward from there.
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>>4763298
>>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."
>"I never wanted to fight a war. I was driven to prepare and wage one, by the tyrants who ruled these lands. My one desire in life, was to spread prosperity and share the bounty of my knowledge with all others who lived upon Shangrala. In the name of progress, in the name of kindness, in an act of boundless generosity and mercy, I have stained my hands red with the blood of countless men"
>"Understand, all who sit around this table are virtuous. And hence, can be trusted to act in my stead. You are like myself, men and women who wish to do what's best for the people and Land. Men and women, who would give up their lives or toil endlessly if it meant bettering society. You, are all the breed of man that can be trusted to lead society and I need your assistance gravely in ensuring the city survives"
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>>4763298
>>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."
>>"The Journey teaches "Learn from others, ponder their actions, do not turn your head from the foreigner, but learn from him. Do not fear the unknown, but embrace it. Every meeting is a chance to gain understanding, and this grander wisdom than any text can give you. For the knowledge gained from knowing your fellow man, from mingling with them and learning from them, is a far greater gift than any other. A farmer can teacher a fisherman much, a blacksmith can tutor a soldier, a noble man has much to learn from his servants. Do not lock yourself away from the world, but wander freely and learn from your fellow man, instead of hating or fearing him". Understand this wisdom, and we may begin our work together.
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Guys, with the "Understand" option we basically compensate for any possible "righteous justification" of death and violence. We basically tell them that improving society is paramount and that killing someone is a great loss to the world and to themselves, but that they should kill if necessary to protect the good parts of mankind and to allow prosperity to reach every corner of the world (Galaxy). It's basically a Great Crusade mentality and will be necassary in the future. I know that saying "death and war on an unprecedented scale are necessary" feels bad to the more white knight anons, but this is W40k, there is literally no way to scape that kind of thing. An yes, I know this is 30K, and yes I know we are a Primarch, and yes, I know we are Lieren. It changes little, in fact, it directly throws us into the "there is only War" part of Warhammer
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>>4764366
we have conquered one realm. This realm was one with most of it s people unified. Vishnu are more divided, even if Lieren as received a diplomat from a vishnu kingdom that consider it self the largest and strongest.
of the other realms we know little. But the planet is in a feudal age, so we will be able to win against any other realm after we recover. Nothing was our stepping stone for free Yang, Yang will be the stepping stone for free all of Shangrila.
Of course the other realms will probably have other evil spirits and ancient artifacts to use at their disposal. But with more tech we discover and the more Yang prosper, and the discrepancy will become larger. And we will also not just sit and wait while we grow stronger before we strike, we will ensure to gain information and allies in those realms of tyrants we will free.
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>>4764415
Maybe people are afraid it will make it easier for Chaos? Since both the Imperial Truth and Faith are about being intolerant? But I agree, look at all the good both have done so far, might aswell distance ourselves from it.
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>>4764421
Do you know what happened to the last pacifist race in W40k? Go ask the Dark Eldar.
The Journey is not the Imperial Thruth nor Faith, it is so distant from both that Lieren's philosophy ending ruined in the same way that ruined the Thruth would the equivalent of dorne suddenly developing a kink for slaaneshy stuff of Vulcan for Dark eldar (basically the same). If the Journey reachs the point where Lieren's core principles get replaced with purge for the Emperor, kill for humanity, Blood for the Blood God then it's no longer the Journey and we are not responsible for Mankind's weakness, supidity and selfdestructive desires
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>>"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering. From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into. For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn. All I have done in life, I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth. I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die and do nothing to prevent it...."
>"I never wanted to fight a war. I was driven to prepare and wage one, by the tyrants who ruled these lands. My one desire in life, was to spread prosperity and share the bounty of my knowledge with all others who lived upon Shangrala. In the name of progress, in the name of kindness, in an act of boundless generosity and mercy, I have stained my hands red with the blood of countless men"
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>>4764458
Now I'm not getting what you are trying to say. I said to Lieren to distance the Journey from the Truth and Faith because they are doomed for failure, basically agreeing with you.
Although the Journey isn't exactly pacifist either, it just doesn't deify conflict, but treat it as a more of a do what you must, and don't wage war with contempt.
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>>4764501
Sorry pal, your post came off as first saying that the other anon was right (I interpreted the questions and the "But I agree" as sarcasm)
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>>4764530
No problem, judging intentions is hard when it's written.
I just won't vote for the understand option because to me it seems more of a trying to elevate the council than sharing our mindset, that's why I prefer the Journey option.
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>>4764557
I'm ok with that. For me, the Journey option goes angainst this meeting's main purpose. We want to enlighten people about who we are, what we think and what the Journey says in a simple and clear way. Making a literal quote of the Journey (something they could read whenever) will not help us to convey OUR personal point of view about all we have said, done and written (which is exactly what this people want to know).
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>>4764566
Lieren probably isn't just going to quote the Journey and leave it at that, he will add extra explanations, and the rest of the council will definatly ask questions that he will answer, kinda like during mass after the liturgy, where the priest explains and expands what we read.
But I may be reading too much into a simple vote.
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>>4764575
Maybe, but that's technically not what the vote says. You could say the same about the other options. In the end is just my opinion and yours, so arguing about it is pointless.
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>>4764415
Well anon, what you forget is that Shangrala doesn't need to be a zealous hellhole. It's one thing to be in a war where you have no option, it's another thing to actively try to make it as part of our psyche.

When the time comes, you do what you gotta, you don't need to actively go around saying that what you did is great and okay.
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>>4764991
> a zealous hellhole
I think your interpretation of my post got lost somewhere and ended up in the Imperium...
> It's one thing to be in a war where you have no option, it's another thing to actively try to make it as part of our psyche.
Another leap, wow. I wasn't advocating for giving into a militaristic mindset, if that's what you mean, but I doubt that a General of 1/20 of humankind will have any option in that regard. Lieren is a nice guy, but there is only so many death and destruction a good guy can cause before he has to accept that he is no longer a good guy, even if his cause is still absolutely justified and anything else would cause much more death. If we don't prepare and soften the blow now and accept that sometimes, good people have to take hard decisions, we will break as soon as we reach the wider Galaxy. That's no excuse for turning into an asshole tho
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I'm just gonna drop the banner and badges I made for Dawn of War so I could play as the Fog Panthers.
Open them in Gimp or Photoshop, create an alpha channel and delete the part yo don't want, resize to 64x64 for the badge and 64x96 for the banner, save as (not export) as a targa file/.tga and put into the respective folder in Soulstorm.
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>>4765409
And here's the badge.
Technicality art anon made the Image, I just made it trnasparent a
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>>4765412
Fuck, I accidentally deleted the end.
made it transparent and resized it.
Here's in the in-game painter with the colours.
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>>4765420
Can’t wait to see them in action.
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>>4765058
What does knowing that good people must make bad choices have anything at ALL to do with explaining this to the noblemen? This isn't an monologue, we're not excusing ourselves. Lieren doesn't have shame in what he did, so why do you want to actively tell to the nobles that? Literally the only thing you accomplish is giving them a carte blanche to excuse any misdeeds they make.
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>>4765409
>>4765412
>>4765420
Excellent excellent
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>>4765505
This people are virtuous, Lieren has checked them, twice, and in my vote he tells them "You are like myself, men and women who wish to do what's best for the people and Land. Men and women, who would give up their lives or toil endlessly if it meant bettering society. You, are all the breed of man that can be trusted to lead society ". That you are suggesting that they will go full retarded zealot Stalin because Lieren explains to them his life and why the fuck he waged war and killed others, even when some were innocent levies tricked into service and the Journey advocates for peace and understanding, explaining them our ideals, mindset, goals, etc so they can understand our motives and not misinterpret our extensive use of violence as a personal preference... Call me Rogal Dorn, but I just don't understand the way you think.
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>>4765572
>That you are suggesting that they will go full retarded zealot Stalin because Lieren explains to them his life and why the fuck he waged war and killed others,
Perhaps not them, but do remember that these kinds of lessons are passed down. They surely will - after all, it is a lesson by Lieren himself. And when we get off this planet (which might come sooner than we think), then we'll be leaving them all alone. Point is, something might happen, and since we won't be there, they won't be able to consult us on "The Greater Good", nobody will

Ultimately, we don't *need* to explain ourselves. The Yan were bad, we got rid of them, that's it. It's more important to express WHY they were bad than it is to excuse ourselves.
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>>4765412
>>4765420

i didn t ask you before but, are you going to use the other art i have layed around ? I would like to see it. I recon some of it can be used for the guard. If you have time that is and want too.

excellent again. I liked your short story/mission, the one where you used the dow 2 marines.


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>>4765702
That's a rad turtle anon.
About using your other art, they would fit more for chapters inside our legion.
I guess I could try and use them for the imperial guard, unfortunaly the generator is very barebones with the guard, and I'm waiting for us to meet the other cultures before I make more auxiliaries for the Benelovent Wings. I guess I can try and use them as badges in the game and fluff it as different regiments taking inspirations from Lieren's co panions and allies, like how each numbered Cadian regiment has different colours and heraldries.
Also I'm not the anon that made the story in DOW 2, I'm a DOW 1 loyalist.
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>>4765449
The cultists fear the journeyman.
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>>4763298
>>"Understand, all who sit around this table are virtuous. And hence, can be trusted to act in my stead. You are like myself, men and women who wish to do what's best for the people and Land. Men and women, who would give up their lives or toil endlessly if it meant bettering society. You, are all the breed of man that can be trusted to lead society and I need your assistance gravely in ensuring the city survives"
>>"The Journey teaches "Learn from others, ponder their actions, do not turn your head from the foreigner, but learn from him. Do not fear the unknown, but embrace it. Every meeting is a chance to gain understanding, and this grander wisdom than any text can give you. For the knowledge gained from knowing your fellow man, from mingling with them and learning from them, is a far greater gift than any other. A farmer can teacher a fisherman much, a blacksmith can tutor a soldier, a noble man has much to learn from his servants. Do not lock yourself away from the world, but wander freely and learn from your fellow man, instead of hating or fearing him". Understand this wisdom, and we may begin our work together.

I don't really see the point in Lieren explaining himself why he did what he did, it's not like the people in the meeting would disagree.
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Calling the vote now.

I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering:18

I never wanted to fight a war:13

The Journey teaches:6

Understand, all who sit around this table are virtuous:2

Total votes: 19

So the speech Lieren gives will be composed of the "I was born in a winter" and "I never wanted to fight a war" options.

Writing now

>>4765702
Fucking incredible. I absolutely adore this. Great work as always.

>>4765409
>>4765412
>>4765420
>>4765793
Nice work as well, amigo. Also, this makes me imagine a cultist confident he will be able escape the angels of death as he is watching from a distant roof, and then he sees one of them perform a ridiculous wuxia leap assisted by a jump pack to directly bring prosperity to his location
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How are we ranking in terms of accomplishments with the other primarchs so far? I don't really know how long it took the others to conquer or not conquer their respective planets
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>>4765998
Given how we've toppled the most powerful nation on the planet and killed a proper daemon before the age of 15, I'd say Lieren is doing pretty good.
I wonder how much of the solar system Lieren can actually unify before the Emperor shows up.
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>>4765998
Somewhere in the middle probably, 9th best primarch, since Lorgar defaults to being dead last.
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>>4766056
Lorgar conquered Colchis though. I'd say that Angron did the worst on his homeworld out of all the primarchs.
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>>4766064
To be fair, he probably had one of the roughest starts out of any Primarch, save for maybe Mortarion.
Imagine being a genetically engineered demigod but you somehow get asthma.
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>>4766070
Yeah, having to fight off DEldar right out of the "womb" is tough, even for a primarch. I've always been unclear on Mortarion's rebreather, I got the sense he didn't need to wear it, but did so out of habit or something. Some illustrations have him wearing it, others don't.
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The mere act of remising upon the past, unearths its sorrows and hardships as fresh and stinging as they were the days you felt them. So vivid are the emotions that rise up within your heart that you find yourself fighting back the same tears you shed when you were witness to the damages and abuse inflicted upon the land and its peoples. Upon your kinfolk, upon your peers. The uncaring brutality which your fellow men were subjected to. Visions of starved children pawing desperately at the graves of their fathers and mothers driven by the instinctual desperation to survive but one more night, of mothers cradling infants who did not live to see a seasons, of entire villages left empty except for bones and dust. The horrors of misrule, the price of tyranny.

Cao Yanyu pulls at her courtly raiment, bundling the woven fox fur and silks closer to her body as a sheer and sudden chill whips through the tea house, as if summoned by the memories of the past. Sighing, you take a sip of your tea, steaming rising past your brow as you ponder your life and try to find the words to condense it and the truth of your character into but a handful of words. How to take the essence of yourself, and render it down so it may be expressed through writing. The speech comes quickly, and as the words become clear in your mind they pass over your lips, spoken as soon as their place in your message is decided upon.

The explanation of Lieren fills the silence of the tea house, accompanied only by the sound of boiling water and ceramics scraping across lacquered wood.

"I was born in a winter, amidst famine and great suffering" You proclaim, staring at your reflection imposed upon the surface of your tea's liquor, the still scarlet gash beneath your eye wavering as you lift the cup to drink from it. All present react, subconsciously showing their own memories of that most dreadful of years, even if they do not realize that is the season you speak of. Famines were rather common before your arrival, judging from the records you have studied.

Xiaojian's eyes darken, and you can see clear the grief brought upon by recalling such hardship, the laborer had doubtlessly lost friends and family during that period of struggle and sparsity. Liu Gen lowers cast his gaze towards the floor, a flash of guilt crossing his features, as he recalls the cruelties commanded of him by his former masters in that time, You can only imagine the sights the captain of the guard must have seen. Gold Tooth Wei's smile vanishes momentarily, the first time you have seen the man's expression shift since you were introduced to him. Kuan Im reacts to the memories by muttering prayers beneath her breath, clutching tightly the prayer beads draped over her thin neck. Cao Yunru closes his eyes, and takes a sip of his coffee, his wife turns away from you, tightening her lips in a pout of regret and shame.

Setting your tea cup onto the table, you continue your speech.
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>>4766116

"From nothing I came, seeking to better the world I had been born into" You explain, clasping your hands together as you rest your aching arms upon the edge of the table "For all of my great deeds and labors, I am naught but a man with a gentle heart who cannot bear to hear children cry or parents mourn"

All except Cao Yunru and Kuan Im have a desire to speak out of turn, to argue against your own assertion and comprehension of your self, to try and convince you that you are much more. The urge is clear upon their expressions, they have heard stories of you, both good and ill, and have witnessed your actions earlier in the day. They wish to praise your mercy, or applaud your capabilities, or proclaim you as more than you are.

However, none of them have the confidence or boldness to interrupt your speech. Wei and Gen still somewhat fear you. Xiaojian is struck by a quiet awe in the face of such humbleness. And Cao's wife is clearly too invested in your story to think to speak her mind at the moment.

"All I have done in my life" You say, staring past your chosen advisors into the emptiness of the tea house, narrowing your eyes as you reflect upon all of the decisions and actions that have decided the path you walked in life, that have led you to this moment "I did because it needed to be done, so no others would suffer as my kin did in the winter of my birth"

Straightening your posture, you turn your gaze back to your compatriots and scowl, shaking your head before taking another sip of tea.

"I cannot understand, how men can watch their fellows starve and die, and do nothing to prevent it" You say earnestly, bemoaning the very nature of mankind when it becomes apathetic to itself.

"Neither do I, boss" Xianjian says ruefully, taking a swig from his flask, the aroma of liquor wafting to you as he uncorks it with his teeth "But from what I've heard said, you've found some magic to keep famines from happening again. It was downright criminal and shameful what the Yan said about you. They sullied the good name of worker who just couldn't stand to watch his kinfolk wither away to nothing"

"An experience you can sympathize with, obviously, as can I" Liu Gen says sadly, avoiding Xianjian's glowering expression by turn his own face away from it "I perhaps deserve to hang among the corrupt officers who served beneath me, I do not understand why I, who commanded them to take from those who had nothing, can be spared"

"Because, I know many who had been forced to do similar evil. It was not your choice to deprive the people of food or comfort" You explain, glancing towards Xianjian, whose expression softens as your words and the captain's regret washes away the image he held of the man in his mind, that of the heartless oppressor "Such actions were not your own, all that was done was that you were used as a tool by tyrants, to preserve their power and maintain their control of the populace"

A light glimmers in the captain's eyes.
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>>4766117

"I myself, recall the campaigns of those lean season, when the Vishnu took what little we were able to produce and store" Wei says, eyes filled with horror as he fiddles with his glass of tea "Brother, I know what you must have experienced was horrible, but imagine waging war when there is no food to feed the army"

"The cannibals' march" Cao Yunru mutters as the general groans and hangs his head in great shame. He tightens his grip upon his glass, web like fractures splintering across it from beneath his fingertips soon after.

"I can never forgive myself for what I was forced to do to survive, but, Brother Liu, what you and I did were not by choice" The general says, trying to smile as he reaches out to the captain

"At least you had a choice" Xianjian sighs, taking a heavy swig of his drink

"Suffering empowers dark forces, but every power has a balancing opposite and equal reaction" Kuan Im says, turning her clouded eyes towards your direction "Night is always followed by dawn, suffering cannot exist perpetually"

Cao Yanyu's eyes desperately searched for something to use as a means to change the subject of the conversation, as she out of all of your present advisors, did not experience the famine and hardship inflicted by the ill rule of the Yan. And she finds it, resting above the counter where the old master of the shop sits and watches the proceedings with vested interest. Two crossed swords, who have not tasted blood for at least three generations, judging by the style of engravings upon their sheaths and hilts. They represent something even the most coddled and pampered of the nobility know well.

War and killing. She may not understand warfare or how battles are fought, but she knows enough from the stories told to her by her father and elder brothers, the history of her house taught to her by lessons and dramatized plays. The plump, rose cheek woman turns to you with an innocent smile upon her red painted lips.

"Lord Lieren" She says, meekly placing her hands upon her lap, as she was trained to by her tutors and mother. The gentle, yet well fed woman, plays the part of a delicate flower well. Better than Qian Xia, as her the mask she presents is in fact her own nature. A refined lady of the courts, who knows more of etiquette and courtly manner than how to care for herself.

Shifting your gaze to look upon her, you lift your chin to show you are listening to her as she does her best to keep from looking towards you, a man who is not her husband, for too long a period.

"I can only imagine how a man as compassionate as yourself must have been agonized. It truly must've been a terrible pain to wage a war that would do nothing be hasten the spread of the same suffering you sought to halt, across the lands. I cannot imagine how you must've felt when the decision had to be made" She says in her sickeningly sweet, harmlessly soft voice, unaware of how her words may draw the ire of men like yourself.
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>>4766118

But you forgive her instantly, she does not understand the state the world was in before your intervention. Though, to one could not read men like they were written records, it would've seem like a open faced, and grievous insult to all you had toiled to built.

Cao Yunru's eyes fill with panic, as he worries of how the other advisor's will react to his wife's poor choice of words. Already you can see the cogs turning in their heads, picking apart every word that could be taken as a sarcastic barb or blatant insult towards you.

So you decided to keep discord from affecting your council over such a petty thing as a pampered woman trying to make conversation in the most direct and blunt way possible. Thankfully, her choice of subject matter provides the perfect preamble to what you wished to speak yourself.

Gently speaking, you present a genial and warm smile as if you were talking to a dear friend, and press your hands together as if in prayer.

"Lady Cao, I never wished to fight a war" You explain, motioning your hands towards her "I was driven to prepare for and wage one, by the tyrants who ruled these lands"

She realizes then her mistake, after hearing your reply. Her cheeks turn a deep shade of scarlet as a glimmer of dread fills her eyes. She begins to apologize, almost going so far as to prostrate herself before you, but you halt the disproportionate response with a raised hand.

"I forgive your accidental transgression, Lady Cao, you did not mean to insult me or what I have built, we are in a time of great turmoil and stress clouds our better judgment at time. You words were intended to be kindly and sympathetic to our shared plight, I understand, do not lower yourself because of a silly mistake, Lady Cao" You say warmly, as tears paint streaks across her white painted cheeks

"The stories do not do your kindness justice, Lord Lieren" She whispers, as her husband slouches in his seat with visible relief, Xianjian turns his eyes away from her, and the captain and general return to their drinks, calmed by your explanation.

"As I said, you are forgiven, everyone make slips when their nerves are frayed, I understand, but understand" You say, placing your raised hand between your twin hearts "My one desire in this life, was to spread prosperity and share the bounty of my knowledge with all others who lived upon shangrala"

Turning back to face the other advisors, you raise your tea cup, and take a sip of cold and bitter tea.

"In the name of progress, in the name of kindness. In an act of boundless generosity and mercy" You say gravely and quietly, as you the faces of every man and woman you have killed to near you dream flit past your mind's eye. Closing your eyes, you take in a deep contemplative breath, and release it.

"I have stained my hands red with the blood of countless men" You sigh, bowing your head slightly.

There is a long moment of silence.
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>>4766119

"The regret of a gentle man forced to be a warrior" Wei, is the first to speak, raising a glass into the air as you open your eyes again "What a terrible thing indeed, but you have done more good with death than any have with hollow reforms and insipid promises"

"I understand your feelings, I believe" Liu Gen mutters quietly, raising his glass as well.

"A man as wise, has no place upon the field of battle, for you are intelligent enough to understand the price of every life taken, and know that in another life, every man killed may have been your comrade or blood brother" Kuan Im muses "But, at least you may find solace in the peace you have worked so diligently to achieve and enjoy the fruits of your long, arduous labor"

"I've never killed another man, I can only imagine how such a deed may stain the soul" Xianjian mutters "To endure such a pain so often, is a display of the true strength of your character"

"If only it could have all been prevent" Cao Yunru says sadly. You nod in agreement.

"The fact that it wasn't, is why my hands are forever sullied. Though I cannot claim that only the deserving died by my actions, I am certain that only one innocent man has died by my hands, and it was at his request" You say with a merry smirk, remembering the loyalty of Daiyu's brother, who would not abandon even the foulest of his family to die alone "But that story bears no consequence to our meeting and the matters which we must discuss"

Setting your emptied cup upon the table, you look upon each of your advisors in turn.

"I have already explained the purpose of your appointment as my advisors, to serve as a peacekeeping council until my army arrives to receive the responsibility of maintain order within the capital from the seven of us" You say sternly "However, it was imperative, that all six of you understood who I am as a man, to hear my views of the world and the beliefs within my heart. To explain in detail, every aspect of myself and my philosophy, would take a full day at minimum, which is time we do not have"

Cupping your hands together, you bow and prostrate yourself before the council.

"So I must, once again, humbly forward my request to you six pillars of the community. The most respect of scholars, of nobility, of laborers and workers, heads of the guard and army, most prestigious among the religious community, to ask for you aid in maintain the fragile balance within the city by becoming the leaders of your people and a guiding light of hope and unity among them" You ask, repeating the request you asked each of them when you offered them a seat upon the council "For, one man, no matter how great, cannot control the entirety of a city's populace nor reign in their grudges and control their feelings of resentment. I ask you, to prevent further bloodshed, to keep fearful hands free of the blood innocent. It is serious responsibility, and one that may endanger your lives but..."
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>>4766120

You are not able to finish speaking before the six of them agree as one, their convictions steeled alongside their fellowship. Having witnessed you bearing your heart and true feelings openly, they have become emboldened and confident in not only your guidance and leadership, but each other as well.

Exactly as you planned them to. Smiling, the six of them begin to discuss how they may keep control over the masses and prevent any unnecessary tragedies from occurring, each providing a unique perspective and approach to keeping the peace, how each of their respective classes and circles may work with the others to foster relations and calm the confusion and rising fears of the people before they are driven to dark deeds by desperation.

Now, you may focus your attention elsewhere in the interim between now and the arrival of your forces.

And where do you turn your attention towards, Lieren?
>Treating the injuries of the Yan's victims, and any injured by brawls or scuffles in the streets of the capital.
>Planning and carrying out the demolition of the celestial incarnation palace.
>Writing letters to spread throughout the kingdom, proclaiming the fall of the Yan dynasty, to ensure peace is restored throughout the lands.
>Aid your advisors in maintaining the peace, directly, patrol the more dangerous parts of the capital and hunt for any lingering criminals.
>write in

sorry for the late update
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>>4766123
>First, mercy kill the king
>send a messanger to our army tell them of the good news
>Writing letters to spread throughout the kingdom, proclaiming the fall of the Yan dynasty, to ensure peace is restored throughout the lands.
As much as I would like to do the last option, it would be imperative that we send the letters out first.
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>>4766133
Wait

>>4766123
When we pick 3rd option, would that make Lieren write all the letters he wants sent out throughout the kingdom? If yes then what if he just writes the one letters then ask if other people can just duplicate his letter and send them out?

Then Lieren could focus on
>Treating the injuries of the Yan's victims, and any injured by brawls or scuffles in the streets of the capital.
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>>4766123
>Putting an end to the creature formerly known as Yan Weizha and demolishing the Celestial Incarnation Palace
At this point, it's an act of mercy.
Also I feel that Lieren needs a way to relieve the tension and stress building up in him after dealing with overly grateful civilians all day.
What better way to do that then tearing through palace bare-handed?
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>>4766136
I'm personally against sending the letters out right now.
God knows some upstart lord is gonna think we're bullshitting and send a small army marching towards the city.
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>>4766123
>Send the best rider in the city on the swiftest horse that can be found to inform your allies what's happened at the Palace
>>Aid your advisors in maintaining the peace, directly, patrol the more dangerous parts of the capital and hunt for any lingering criminals.
>Put down the roiling mass of fat and offal that was Yan Weizha like the dog he once was.
Get our immediate house in order, then make sure Yan is at peace. Having the rest of our allies here will help us with the options we haven't picked.
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>>4766123
>>Treating the injuries of the Yan's victims, and any injured by brawls or scuffles in the streets of the capital.

"Tis best for the demolition of the palace to be done by the very peoples it once consumed. Drive home the point that this victory will be cemented by the efforts of all and not just ourself.
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>>4766139
>>4766133
He ended Weizha's suffering already

"Yan Weizha will be put out of his misery before you begin your next course of action, after you see to the injured and wounded."


"Nodding, you leave the hospital built in the courtyard of the Cao estates, and head towards the Celestial incarnation Palace to at last execute Yan Weizha, or rather what remains of the bloated fox after Huli Jing devoured the pitiful excuse for a man he was."

Lieren isn't the kind of guy to delay an execution or prolong suffering, even if its a motherfucker like Weizha.
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>>4766152
I was wondering to be honest.
Seems like the kind of thing to be written out in detail, but I can understand Lieren (and the story) focusing on more important things.
>>4766123
changing to
>Treating the injuries of the Yan's victims, and any injured by brawls or scuffles in the streets of the capital.
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>>4766152
Imagine someone setting his corpse on fire.
Motherfucker is so god damn fat and greasy, he could keep on burning for hours. I think I once hear that a cremation machine caught on fire because the corpse was too morbidly obese.

>>4766142
tbf, by the time anyone tries to rally anything, we'll have our army rallied to the city by then. If a lord does try to match an army towards us, we'll "talk" them down. Simple.
Because our army is already amused, and the theoretical lord's armies would need time to assemble their personal army, the armies of their vassals, etc.
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>>4766123
>Write letters
>Hunt criminals and patrol the city

So it shall be, so it is.
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>>4766123
>Writing letters to spread throughout the kingdom, proclaiming the fall of the Yan dynasty, to ensure peace is restored throughout the lands.
>Treating the injuries of the Yan's victims, and any injured by brawls or scuffles in the streets of the capital.
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>>4766123
>Treating the injuries of the Yan's victims, and any injured by brawls or scuffles in the streets of the capital.
>Planning and carrying out the demolition of the celestial incarnation palace.
>Send a herald
>Kill the king
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>>4766152
Well shit, disregard that part of the vote than.
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>>4765773
that s cool. ah sorry i thought you where the same guy,


>>4765956
thanks


>>4766123
>Send the best rider in the city on the swiftest horse that can be found to inform your allies what's happened at the Palace
>Writing letters to spread throughout the kingdom, proclaiming the fall of the Yan dynasty, to ensure peace is restored throughout the lands.
>>Aid your advisors in maintaining the peace, directly, patrol the more dangerous parts of the capital and hunt for any lingering criminals.
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I propose we hold off killing the emperor until we have our army here given all they have fought fore i think they should be here for it and we have missed them.
>Planning and carrying out the demolition of the celestial incarnation palace.
>Find out what happened to our friends that they might join us post haste
>Write in
travel to meet our envoys and friends taking the travel time as moments of peace given we'll be busy from now on.
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>>4766502
Apparently we already mercy-killed him unceremoniously before going to make the council.
And I'm not sure us leaving the city is a good idea during this time of transition and unrest, better to send a messenger with a guard or two.
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>>4766502
>I propose we hold off killing the emperor until we have our army here given all they have fought fore i think they should be here for it and we have missed them.
How did you miss the part where the QM said we mercy killed him already?
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>>4765702
Would you mind posting the other noble banners you've made? I'd like to use them to make more marines, like I did with your Jinhai sigil.
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Daimarine is done. Picked Cataphractii because it's the pattern that offers the most protection, at the cost of the wearer's speed. Seemed fitting for turtles. The fact it kinda looks like a Word Bearer is completely coincidental, I swear.
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>>4766995
sure it shouldn t take too much time
here is the yang from last thread

>>4751053
here is the gao


the rest is new colors of the legion
>>4767032
cool
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>>4767057
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>>4767057
Thanks! I don't wanna start the Legion paint job discussion again, but Gaomarines and Yanmarines will be coming right up. Here's Jinhai in the meantime.
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>>4767078
Np
Wonderful they are very cool
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>>4766123
>>Writing letters to spread throughout the kingdom, proclaiming the fall of the Yan dynasty, to ensure peace is restored throughout the lands.
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>>4767078
But the painting discussion is the best part.
The entire hobby is built upon paiting plastic man.
The only problem is that it ends with me clogging up the thread with bunch of posts like a shitty artblog
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>>4767078
Beautiful as always.
>>4767076
Bannerman you make the threads all the more beautiful.
>>4766143
Going to support this. We need to move quickly.
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>>4767078
i think you have the older images of the panthers, so there is nothing else to post for me right now. Maybe i will make something during the week

>>4767150
thanks
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>>4767089
>>4767148
>>4767150
I'm real iffy on this one. Tried to work the dragon angle a bit, not sure how I did. Between that and the lack of a third color, this one will probably be one I revisit. Gonna start working on the non-heretical Gaomarine now.
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>>4767294
Beautiful.
Enough to reignite Lieren's fury.
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>>4767294
great job
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>>4767294
I couldn't see any of our sons, even post heresy, working like that.
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>>4767385
>>4767475
Redeemed.
>>4767556
That guy isn't meant to be any son of ours, just a Chaos Marine inspired by Gao Liwei. You never know though...
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>>4767570
It'd suprise me if we ever tell someone about Gao Liwei in any great detail, enough for them to recreate his style.
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>>4767570
This make me wonder, will Dayiu children use Gao's heraldry or Jinhai's?
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>>4767570
i like it


>>4767590
Perhaps a combination can be done
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>>4767590
The mingling of the carp and dragon would be reminiscent of the old folk tale, so I approve of it.
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>>4767590
Gao heraldry I'd assume. I don't see why they would change, even if she married him she is the noble.
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>>4767645
Well, maybe to show everyone that the Gao has a new identity? Many people would still identify the old heraldry with suffering.
>>4767642
>>4767605
Maybe instead of twins dragons, it would be a dragon and a carp, and purple, to mix jinhai blue with gao pink.
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>>4767652
Reclaimation.
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Why not have the dragon and the carp as a Yin Yang symbol?
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>>4767642
L-lewd
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>>4766123
>Treating the injuries of the Yan's victims, and any injured by brawls or scuffles in the streets of the capital.
>Aid your advisors in maintaining the peace, directly, patrol the more dangerous parts of the capital and hunt for any lingering criminals.
Mix these with the most important cases needing the intervention of Lieren himself and let others copy and sent all the letters as said here >>4766136
We should keep the demolition of the palace for later when we have thoroughly explored it and as a symbol for the beginning of a new age(so most likely when the army gets here). Until then, keep it closed off for everyone.
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>>4767652
Actually, I just remembered a creature that's both carp and dragon.
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>>4767578
It isn't really any big secret. Half of our pals worked for him before we showed up. One of our candidates for future ruler is his daughter.
>>4767590
Daiyu is the noble in that relationship, probably hers. But Jinhai has earned a personal CoA in his carp.
>>4767605
Much obliged, Anon. Have a Yan Noisemarine. For some reason CSM don't get powerspears so I had to settle for a chain glaive.
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An idea.
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>>4767678
And another
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Calling for the vote now. Sorry for the late update.

Send the best rider in the city on the swiftest horse that can be found to inform your allies what's happened at the Palace: 5

Writing letters to spread throughout the kingdom, proclaiming the fall of the Yan dynasty, to ensure peace is restored throughout the lands.:5

Treating the injuries of the Yan's victims, and any injured by brawls or scuffles in the streets of the capital.:6

Aid your advisors in maintaining the peace, directly, patrol the more dangerous parts of the capital and hunt for any lingering criminals.:4

Planning and carrying out the demolition of the celestial incarnation palace.:2

travel to meety our envoys and friends taking the travel time as moments of peace given we'll be busy from now on:1

total votes 12:

So Lieren shall send riders to inform the kingdom of the fall of the Yan dynasty, personally writing the messages that will be sent out, and sending the fastest rider in the city to meet his army, before devoting his attention to treating the injured once more

writing now

>>4767032
Stylish

!>>4767570
>>4767294
>>4768148

Good looking heresy.

>>4768316
>>4768351
Looks nice, though the first one has a mistake where a lighter pink remains around one of the dragons eyes, and the second has the spear that accompanied Jinhai's sigil along it.

Besides these minor mistakes, both of them look fantastic.
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>>4768620
>Good looking heresy.
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only FASHION!
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>>4768148
It isn't a secret, but the rape of nanking isn't any big secret, people just don't want to talk about it all that much.
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>>4768620
> personally writing the messages that will be sent out
I was gonna ask if this was gonna take long ,but considering this is Lieren is guess writing wouldn't take longer than a few minutes.
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It will be wise to inform the greater populace of the former kingdom of Yan of the rebellions victory and ousting of the prior ruling family, and it'd be best to inform the remaining loyal noble houses and the confused and terrified masses sooner rather than later. So working with great haste, you gather the literate scholars, choosing from them those with the most dexterous hands who have proven the most skilled in writing both quickly and rapidly so they may serve as your assistance in the laborious task of writing hundreds, thousands of letters and messages to spread throughout the lands.

Such an endeavor will most likely require most of the prepared ink within the capital and most of the blank scrolls and bare pages yet unbound into books, but such an expenditure is easily paid. After all, what is a minor scarcity in writing material compared to preventing the possibility of continued conflict. While you always strive to not be wasteful, the resources spent to create these letters is anything but wasted. The only obstacle that yet remains is logistical in nature, as the lands beyond the lands of the Dai have yet to receive the roots of your ever growing great road. And it will take sometime for the Giant's road to spread itself to the capital and the regions that were on the losing side of the conflict. This presents a conundrum that must be solved before the declaration can be sent out and spread.

As the what roads are tended and maintained so far north, are nowhere near as safe as those you have built and fortified throughout your life time. Bandits, brigands, blackguards, killers, criminals and hungering beasts all stock the fog shrouded length of the poorly repaired and cheaply built paths that web throughout the lands once held by the Yan. However, such a question is easily answered, for while travel is still rather dangerous in this region you shall soon have the greatest army ever mustered from the people, relieved of duty and deprived of purpose. The bearers of the declaration shall be protected by those same men, who shall in turn receive a new purpose at least momentarily, as peacekeepers and wardens of the yet untamed wilds.

With that most minor of obstacles overcome, you begin to pen the message that shall be given to the masses, working at a blistering pace as your assistance stand idle, waiting for the finished work so they may reproduce and copy it throughout the coming days and week.

It reads as thus "Greetings, my brothers and sisters. A new era has come, one of freedom, bounty, unity, plenty and prosperity. The house and dynasty of the Yan has fallen, overcome by the revolutionary forces lead by Lieren of Nothing, who you may know as a generous kindly giant, or as wicked man eating ogre. In truth, he was but a man who wished to see his fellow man freed from the shackles of tyranny and oppression. "
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>>4768667

"The dark era of the foxes has been ended by his hand, the war has come to an end and no great calamity shall accompany the dawn of this era of boundless opportunity and prosperity. Do not fear the panther hide banners, nor the men who march beneath them. For the forces of virtue and true nobility have won out against the stagnant rule of sadistic lords and uncaring tyrants. Welcome them with open arms, for they ride to lift you from the harsh and difficult lifestyles forced upon you by the prior dynasty. All men, all women, and all children within the former kingdom of the Yan, shall be raised up together to enjoy the fruits of Lieren's knowledge and his great labor. Do not fear the men of the giant, do not fear the giant himself, for his intent is benevolent. Famine shall be conquered, the wilds tamed, and suffering ended, if you would simple accept the gifts so generously offered to you. The Yan lied about many things, come and see the truth and join us in this era of renewed hope and wealth"

Licking the ink from your brush, you begin to pen the letters to send to the lords loyal to the yan who yet remain in power. the Kang, the Xue, the Huang, the Luo, and their vassals. These letters are more personalized, and written in a more official and stern tone. Some may read the contents as a threat, or bare faced intimidation, but that is not your intent. Rather, the message is a plea to cease resistance and a call to join the new, brighter civilization that shall replace the prior government headed by the Yan.

The Huang and Luo, should require much in the way of appeasement or convincing to abandon the cause of their slain masters. Indeed, the letter is more of a formal notice that rulership of the kingdom has switched hands. After all, the two houses barely concerned themselves with the deaths of their lord and lady, instead turning to infighting in a bid to claim their positions for themselves. Doubtlessly, their lines will yet require weeding, so you do at least put in the effort to write a hidden message into the declarations to be sent to both of the families still consumed by internal strife.

A message that would only be understood by one who embodies the virtues you extol and applaud, those characteristic encouraged by the journey, It may be a rather needless act of trickery, but it may remove the need to personally judge and prune the family tree of the houses of Huang and Luo, or it will otherwise alert you of the hopeless state of either lineage. In which case, the messages shall assure the corrupted nobles that they are in no danger, allowing for their easy ousting from their seats of power.

The letter to the last of the Xue three, is more of an open offering of friendship and aid, considering their grievous defeats and the raids performed by the Vishnu during the war.
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>>4768668

Xue Liang, ever the ambitious man, will accept any demand in return for the protection derived from continued fealty alongside any additional stipulation the contract of his house's vassalage.

Swamps and marshes are rich in various materials that will be required for your plans to further progress the technological knowledge of the kingdom.

And the lord of the many headed serpents will graciously accept the offer of forgiveness and pardon presented with letter as he will think he has only been given bribes and leniency, never realizing the wealth of resources that has long lay hidden beneath the mires he rules. So, the Xue shall rejoin the kingdom without complaint as they will believe they have only been given wealth and privledge in exchange for continued loyalty.

However, the Kang, will be an entirely different beast to contend with. They are a proud family, and their lands are entirely loyal to them. The family yet believes that their beloved heir was slain in the greatest act of treachery within living memory and would fight until every man living in their demesne has died in a pointless attempt to avenge him. But Yongrui yet lives, however, the state he exists in, may only serve to further enrage the lions of the plains. They will have to be treated with care. Perhaps the letter to Lord Kang shall be delivered by his son, alongside reoperations for the grave losses suffered at the "treachery of the turtles".

Many noble lines lost heirs in that battle, according to the reports. There will be resentment and grudges fermenting within the minds and hearts of the Lions. The message you right to the kang, is more of a request for forgiveness and statement of regret. And it is the only one you leave unfinished as it will end with a complete and exact record of the repartitions paid to the land and families who have lost so much by your hand.

Licking the tip of your brush clean, you set it besides the scrolls bearing your declaration of victory and the notes bearing your offers of peace and forgiveness to the remaining lords of Yan.

Stretching your fingers, you stand and allow the scribes attending you to begin their work, pausing only to apply fresh bandages to replace the ones you have worn since you've defeated Huli Jing. And with that work done, you are content to return to carrying for the wounded and crippled. The pillars of the city should maintain peace and uphold order, and quell any scuffles or incidents that yet arise due to the wild emotions and grudges present within the populace, and you have prepared for the future.

All that remains, is the care for those abused and other wise injured by the tyrants in their final day of indulgence. It is a most fulfilling duty and an honored responsibility few can undertake well. With your knowledge of the human body, and understanding of medicine, many lives will be saved and bettered. It is a simple thing, yet something that fills you with a sense of pride.
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>>4768669

For is there anything more worthwhile than helping others?

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The stench of blood and chemical sanitizers smothers your senses, the reek of bile and putrid fluids struggling to pierce through the veil created by the aroma of grievous wounds and slowly approaching death. You've worked for hours, cutting, stitching, treating, mending, repairing, and healing. The battle of the night prior, has managed to exhaust you, and now all that drives you forward is the knowledge that if you falter or rest for even a moment, a life will be lost or its quality lessened by your inaction. An assistant wipes your brow, as you try to piece together the bowels of a man who was used as archery target practice.

Any slip of the hand or fingers will doom the unfortunate soul to a lingering death as his own filth poisons and befouls his innards. No other man could perform this operation, even with guidance. The understanding simply has been reached by practitioners of medicine, who labeled this same patient as unsalvageable and pointless to treat. But, you understand, how to tend to the most delicate parts of the human body. And even with that knowledge at your disposal and proper sanitization, you are not certain this man will survive his treatment. Simply ensuring your tools were properly cleaned was difficult, and you could not fully sanitize the hurriedly constructed hospital within the Cao's courtyard.

All you could do was hope, hope that his wounds do not become infected, hope his bowels heal together properly, hope he will live another day.

Another assistant wipes a bead of sweat from your brow, as you carefully weave a thin, alcohol soaked string through the flesh of his intestines, to join them back together, as other menials busy themselves cleaning out the cavity of his chest, clearing it of waste and foulness as you continue your efforts.

The sun has began to set, and you are tired.

Only a handful of patients remain. yet your army still has quite the journey to make. There is still work that can be done before their arrival. Thankfully, there have been only a handful of incidents and assaults within the capital. It would appear as though the six you called upon have done their duty well. But who knows what the night will bring?

What shall you do when your work here is done, Lieren?
>Allow yourself to rest and recover, and sleep. You will be awakened when your army arrives
>continue working, focusing your efforts now on studying the various petty and spiteful laws enacted by the Yan dynasty, so they may be excised.
>Work through the night, instructing craftsmen and architects how to build and replicate the "wonders" you have given the people, now that the Yan are no longer able to horde the fruits of your wisdom
>Tend to the injured and stay by the side of those who cannot be saved despite your best efforts.
>Write in?
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>>4768671
>Rest for a few hours

Even Primarch's need their rest, but they don't need sleep. Space marines aka inferior primarchs have the capacity to rest half their brains for extended periods so that they can "sleep" but remain aware of their surroundings. I don't see why we can't do the same.

If there is any time left after we wake
>Instruct craftsmen and architects how to build our "wonders"
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>>4768671
>Allow yourself to rest and recover, and sleep. You will be awakened when your army arrives
I'm getting the feeling that things won't go as smooth as we want them to when our forces finally muster at the city.
Best we're rested and ready to act.
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>>4768671
>stay by the side of those who cannot be saved despite your best efforts. From all the torture they've been put through, they deserve to spend their last moments near someone who genuinely cares.
>Allow yourself to rest and recover, but not sleep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npSW9wy35lY
Attempt breathing exercises and meditation.
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>>4768671
>Tend to the injured and stay by the side of those who cannot be saved despite your best efforts.

If anyone deserves our time right now, it's them.
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>>4768675
That's one of the implanted organs in space marines right? sorta works the same way as dolphins and how half their brains are asleep or something.

>>4768681
what do you think will happen?
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>>4768671
>continue working, focusing your efforts now on studying the various petty and spiteful laws enacted by the Yan dynasty, so they may be excised.
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>>4768688
They deserve time but we need to rest. We've been on the go for about 4-5 days none stop, fought a small army, Infiltrated the palace, fought a small daemon army then battled the beguiler of dynasties to the death, instituted law and order and saved dozens if not hundreds of further lives.
We need to take a few hours to get our breath back and keep to top form.
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>>4768690
That's right. It's the Catalespian node unless I'm very much mistaken.
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>>4768690
>what do you think will happen?
I don't have any specifics in mind, but I keep to an old addage.
"Hope for the best, prepare for the worst."
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>>4768693
>fought a small daemon army
I think they were only humans that were corrupted by chaos, not full blown demons.
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>>4768697
Corrupted, mutants, you get the idea of what I was saying.
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>>4768671
>Allow yourself to rest and recover, and sleep. You will be awakened when your army arrives
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>>4768671
>Allow yourself to rest and recover, and sleep. You will be awakened when your army arrives
>Tend to the injured and stay by the side of those who cannot be saved despite your best efforts
I hope the offers of amnesty doesn't mean that corrupt nobles stay in power.
>>4768620
I noticed those errors too, but I was feeling too lazy to edit it out.
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>>4768814
We're hardly a man who keeps his promises to the corrupt.
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>>4768671
>Tend to the injured and stay by the side of those who cannot be saved despite your best efforts.
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>>4768821
It just makes me worried because the Kangz may throw another fit if we break our word to get more of the corrupt nobles.
Honour autism is a hell of a drug.
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>>4768870
Hang, not get.
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>>4768870
Just dispatch the scarlet spider to the matter and let her weed the bastards out.
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>>4768148
A nice looking heretic, very good.

>>4767928
kek

>>4768316
>>4768351
nice


>>4768671
>Allow yourself to rest and recover, and sleep. You will be awakened when your army arrives

Comfort for some time the injured and give them some attention, then rest.
Ask Cao Yunru if it can bring us the law books of the kingdom, we can read them tommorow in the morning while looking over the injured and any issue in the city.
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>>4768879
Oh yeah, it's been so long I forgot she existed.
I just hope that time hasn't dulled her charms, otherwise a return to form would work wonderfully.
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>>4768920
I shouldn't expect she has. Skills you practice continuously don't really degrade.
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>>4768671
>>Allow yourself to rest and recover, and sleep. You will be awakened when your army arrives
I feel like we've earned this rest.
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>>4769023
>Allow yourself to rest and recover, and sleep. You will be awakened when your army arrives
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>>4768671
>Allow yourself to rest and recover, and sleep. You will be awakened when your army arrives
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>>4768671
>>Tend to the injured and stay by the side of those who cannot be saved despite your best efforts.
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>>4769304
Shit, forgot the last marine.
He's more inspired by the Yan we fought in the Palace (and the Palace/Huli Jing themselves), rather than the Yan we took the Six-Bladed Spear from.
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>>4768671
>>continue working, focusing your efforts now on studying the various petty and spiteful laws enacted by the Yan dynasty, so they may be excised.
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>>4768671
>Allow yourself to rest and recover, but not sleep.
Due to being able to work at above-human lvls 9f competence with half a brain asleep and half awake, this still allows us to do mechanical movements and keep our awareness, and could be the start of meditative trance that takes our natural ability even further beyond, maybe even allowing us to remove the need to sleep eventually (after working on the technique for some time), or at least reduces it to the maximum possible with no negative effects. That would effectively double our narrative "action economy"
>Tend to the injured and stay by the side of those who cannot be saved despite your best efforts.
This only if said injured have any risk of getting worse if not properly treated. Lieren would rather not sleep than sleep knowing that someone will die or suffer per anent harm because he could do more but didn't.
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>>4768671
>Allow yourself to rest and recover, and sleep. You will be awakened when your army arrives
We've done a lot of work. The people should be able to take care of themselves for a while, right?
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>>4768675
That's true, but those things aren't completely efficient. Lieren is Lieren, he's just done fighting a fucking Daemon. He SHOULD sleep, it would give his body time to heal itself.
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>>4768920
Well, she's not old, is she? She's clearly still young and all that shit, even if her "skills" weren't of as much use in the war. She'll do a fine job helping us with the corrupt noblemen.
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>>4769868
>Can people take care of themselves?
Short answer is No. Welcome to leadership, your job is to babysit everyone under you.
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>>4769868
>Emperor of Mankind: *Laughing*
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>>4769868
>We've done a lot of work. The people should be able to take care of themselves for a while, right?
You'd think so, wouldn't you?
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>>4769868
An individual needs little to no oversight whatsoever.
People (plural) will break down and light everything on fire for no real reason at all.
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>>4770018
as blm, sjw, antifa and the democrat left has shown time and time again.
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>>4770027
Cult organisations, school institutions, clubs and any TTRPG team I lead also.

Remove direct oversight, suffer chaos
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>>4770027
Those groups make asses of themselves just plenty, but the phenomenon I'm talking about applies to any large group of people acting without direct oversight and good leadership.
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>>4770027
Those absolutely have leadership and oversight. The real is problem is mob mentality is batshit insane.
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>>4769935
It's only a day or so though, isn't it? How much can normal people fuck up in a single day?
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>>4770315
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray-Hill_riot

Here's an example of what can be accomplished in just 16 hours. Granted, since we do have people we've appointed as peacekeepers, it probably wouldn't go this badly.
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>>4770331
Well, that thing already had a bunch of shit like ongoing terrorist attacks with IEDs and shit. It's much harder to fuck up things on that scale when you can't blow up an entire building in a moment's notice.

Like, even the Nika Riots were a looooong time coming.
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>>4770331
>The leader of the 'Operation McGill Français' protests was ironically a part-time Marxist political science lecturer from Ontario named Stanley Gray who could barely speak French, but who declared that McGill must become a French-language university to end "Anglo-elitism", rallying support from the Quebec separatist movement.
It seems some things never change.
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>>4770331
>>4770360
Communism is the real world equilavent of Chaos corruption.
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>>4770379
>Lieren reinvents helicopters solely to give free rides to Chaos cultists
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>>4770385
>Giving free rides
It's what they want, you have to charge them first.
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>>4770408
They're free for a reason my friend.
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>>4770417
Oh I know, but you can't let them have the last laugh.
Although Lieren could count it as their last gift in this case.
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Calling the vote now.

Allow yourself to rest and recover, and sleep. You will be awakened when your army arrives:11
-Do not sleep, only rest:3

Tend to the injured and stay by the side of those who cannot be saved despite your best efforts.: 6

continue working, focusing your efforts now on studying the various petty and spiteful laws enacted by the Yan dynasty, so they may be excised:2

instruct craftsmen and architects how to build and replicate the "wonders" you have given the people, now that the Yan are no longer able to horde the fruits of your wisdom:1

Ask Cao Yunru if it can bring us the law books of the kingdom, we can read them tommorow in the morning while looking over the injured and any issue in the city:1

Total votes: 16

So Lieren, once he has done all he can for the patients cared for in the hospital, shall after years of toil without rest and relentless laboring, finally allow himself the leisure to recover from his wounds and rest his weary body.

And he shall dream as he waits for his followers to arrive at the capital.

Writing now

>>4769307
Read that as Uber chaos Chan. Looks stylish though.

>>4768814
Fair enough. and yeah, no, Lieren has plans to counter the possibility of that occurring
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>>4770434
>Uber chaos Chan
I can do that too.
Please boss... just one little bit of fanservice down the line... who's to say Luli's cybernetic tongue doesn't cause a speech-impediment?
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To dread the future, is foolish. All one can do is work to better the present and hope the ripples of their actions will similarly affect the future the come. Whether ones deeds will better or worsen the days to come, us unknown until what is to come has become what is. Measures have been established and set into place to prevent to night from being populated by horrors and chaos spawned solely from the worried hearts of men. You have entrusted the task of protecting the citizens of the capital and preserving the peace to your six virtuous survivors, and with such a dire responsibility you have also given them your trust.

There is only so much one man can prevent, but you have done all that you are capable of to influence the fate of the city and its people without going against your very nature to achieve such ends. Oh it would be simple to command every door and window to be boarded up and every family confined to their homes. It would be easy to send out patrols of watchmen to observe every step taken by the citizenry. It'd be more efficient to simply imprison anyone who harbored thoughts or fears that could lead to them seeking violently means to seek retribution or punished imagined villains.

It would be as simple as playing with children, to enact such edicts and taken a firmer grasp upon the reins of the city to steer it towards a more certain future, for a man of your talent and capability. However, it would also be easy to protect them by placing them behind steel bars and cages. Virtue and benevolence both can sour into self righteousness. The best of intentions can lead men down the darkest of paths. Order shall be kept and maintained by the people themselves, they shall be protected by unity and geniality, rather than guarded by being gripped by the stone fist of order and defended against themselves by oppressive guardianship.

The decisions you have made in sheltering the inhabitants of the capital from the chaos and confusion that would have otherwise consumed it, are not the most effective ways or methods to control the populace and sustain the order you have set in place and the peace you have created. There are much more efficient means of maintaining either concept, however, the methods to produce such results are ones that would sully you in both heart and spirit. For they are the tools of tyranny and tactics of tyrants.

There exists no kindly means of protecting the capital and its populace from itself, that you could devise or comprehend. You have done all that can possibly be done without lowering yourself to the most wicked and foul of deeds to strengthen and bolster the fragile sense of safety and calm within the minds of the people. The six advisors are entrusted with maintaining the idea within the hearts and minds of those who trust and respect them.

Lieren has done his part in the ordeal of the first day of the new era, it falls to the hands of others to continue the labor of peacekeeping.
Cont
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>>4770512

There is nothing more that can be done by yourself to lessen the odds of riots, assaults, or lesser crimes. That responsibility lies on the shoulders of the masses. They cannot be controlled into obedience, only guided away from blind anarchy.

Sighing, you turn thoughts away from reflecting upon how a man with a colder more uncaring heart than your own would have an easier job in keeping the rising tensions within the capitals under control. But such suppression is anathema to all you believe and cherish. All that you are able to do now, is hope that calmer minds with win out and no more blood shall be shed this day.

Besides, such thoughts have momentarily distracted you from the few patients that yet remain awaiting your care. Only a handful are left. But you are tried, in all meanings of the terms. Your body has been worked to its limits in battling an existence as powerful as Huli Jing, your mind is weary from the sights it has witnessed and invisible assaults sent against it, and your heart and soul have been so glutted by sorrow and pain it feel as if bother have become weak and wavering.

Body, Mind, and spirit need to rest and recover. But there is a little more work that must yet be done before you can allow yourself the respite. If you did not deeply understand your own limits, you would continue working to solve every problem and preventing all strife within the capital city gently, without relying upon cruel or unforgiveable methods to do so. But, if you did, you know you would collapse under your own weight, your great body finally reaching the end of its endurance, and deprived of stamina, failing entirely.

And the image the people hold of you, as an invincible, unconquerable warrior would fade from their minds. This imagined Lieren is one of the key reasons the people have not descended to wild barbarity, and this imaginary existence of an indomitable warrior philosopher has already been tarnish by the wounds you bear. It would vanish entirely, if you were to faint or even collapse in full view of the public.

All that can be done, has been done. So you may, after near nine years of constant toil and labor, allow yourself the leisure of true rest.

Sighing again, you finish the treatment of the final patient, a man who had been nearly dragged from his house by a noose. His attackers have all been imprisoned to await trial. He is fortunate that Xianjian had arrived to scold and shame those who had sought to lynch him. If the man had been but a moment later, his neck would've been snapped and he'd have been a corpse instead.

However, all he will require is a brace to keep him from aggravating the lingering damage upon his throat and spinal column, and pain killers to ease the pain of his injury. Before him, a young man had died of the injuries he had endured in the same battle that claimed the life of noble Fa.

But, he did not die alone. Well meaning volunteers will tend and care for the patients in your stead.
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>>4770515

You have left instructions and a means of contacting you, should complications arise.

Lumbering your way across the tent dotted courtyard, you smile as you see a few a handful of monks, priestess and holy men debating and discussing the journey as they read it out loud to the illiterate and blind amongst the patients. Kuan Im herself stands among them, her graceful fingers dancing over your words as she reads them out loud besides Luli, who the apostle of the old faith had become quite affectionate towards.

Nodding, you stalk into the manor of the house of Cao, and walk to its gardens, noticing from the sounds and presence in the air that Yunru and Yanyu are in the process of creating a heir to the young noble lineage. Stepping beneath a willow tree, you lay your back against it and rest your hands just beneath your twin hearts.

Languishing in the shade of the young tree, you watch the sun set upon a new era, the fog around you dyed red and gold by its fading light. A stream bubbles and hisses close to your side, the wind blows, the night birds sing, and the smallest forms of life sing their courtship songs.

"Finally" You mutter, content with the product of your life long mission of prosperity and all the work you have put towards it "Finally, I can be allowed to rest"

Closing your gentle, golden eyes, you meditate upon the unseen world around yourself, ridding yourself of all temporal concerns and material worries. The boundaries of yourself fade, and you feel as though you become one with the cooling breeze and soothing songs of nature.

All of the aches and pain endured by your body drift away, carrying with them the nightmares you were forced to bare witness to.

Such serenity, such tranquility. It is finer than any meal or drink. More soothing that any intoxicant, more pleasing than form of entertainment. Peace...the peace you have long strived to achieve, has been reached.
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<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LHwarMbDyY>

The 2nd primarch, drifted to sleep. His unbreakable will glowed brightly in the realm of the spiritual, like a great sea upon which countless lanterns glowed. The souls of those who in the material realm, joined the man in the journey to bring prosperity. Those who had touched and influenced him to become the man he was, and those who had been forged by the intervention of the giant's guidance and friendship.

Sparks of his essence intermingled with their own, as his soul continuously burned, using itself as fuel. Like a tree that grew and bloomed because of the flames that surrounded it, Lieren's soul continuously and paradoxically fed upon its own destruction turned creation. The souls who sat beneath the influence of Lieren's unknown power, were empowered by it and empowered it in turn. A never ending cycle, of destruction and creation, of receiving and gifting, of waxing and waning, had found balance within the core of the primarch's being.

The endless Cultivation of shared emotion and power.
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>>4770518

A certain Xenos race held a power quite similar to the one the primarch had cultivated within himself and the hearts of all who followed and believed in him. Drops of Lieren's great essence, filled and emboldened the flames of thousands of lives, and in turn, they expanded the endless cycle of paradox. It repeated infinitely.

As Guozhi had said, Lieren's spirit was like a vessel that filled others with its own every healing and refilling majesty, and was in turn filled with their own, lesser brilliances.

The origin of a great sea, the focal point of a great web of unity and unconscious cooperation, a will so unbreakable that the world itself would kneel and obey its command.

Of course, Lieren was not conscious of this fact. Instead his sleeping mind wandered the depths of the warp upon which his will had once painted itself upon.

And he dreamed, unknowingly gazing and simultaneously walking within and alongside the minds and souls of others.

And what did you dream of as your soul wanders, Lieren?
>The good your deeds have done to the world, the lives they have saved and bettered.
>A dream of marriage, fatherhood and aging alongside another, reflecting your desire to live and die as a normal man.
>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.
>Other giants, with peculiar and queer appearances who seem so deeply familiar yet utterly foreign to your eyes.
> A shadow unborn, a light slain. Standing just out of reach with the most satisfied of grins upon his face half living and half skeletal
>write in?

Five choices? how strange.
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>>4770521
>>A dream of marriage, fatherhood and aging alongside another, reflecting your desire to live and die as a normal man.
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>>4770521
>>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.
>> A shadow unborn, a light slain. Standing just out of reach with the most satisfied of grins upon his face half living and half skeletal
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>>4770521
>>A dream of marriage, fatherhood and aging alongside another, reflecting your desire to live and die as a normal man.
Felt tempted by the Big E or Malal one but this one sounds pretty different from the other ones
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>>4770521
>>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.
Oh hi thar malcador and emps. What are you doing here.
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>>4770521
>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.
>Other giants, with peculiar and queer appearances who seem so deeply familiar yet utterly foreign to your eyes.
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>>4770521
>A dream of marriage, fatherhood and aging alongside another, reflecting your desire to live and die as a normal man.
Lieren just wanted to farm in peace.
> A shadow unborn, a light slain. Standing just out of reach with the most satisfied of grins upon his face half living and half skeletal
P R A I S E
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>>4770521
>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.
>>Other giants, with peculiar and queer appearances who seem so deeply familiar yet utterly foreign to your eyes.
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>>4770521
>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.
It's only natural that Lieren would think of his father. It's been so long since we've been home...
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>>4770537
Wait a minute can we choose more then one dream?
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>>4770521
>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.
If we can choose only one. Otherwise add this as well
>Other giants, with peculiar and queer appearances who seem so deeply familiar yet utterly foreign to your eyes.
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>>4770521
>>A dream of marriage, fatherhood and aging alongside another, reflecting your desire to live and die as a normal man.
>>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.

Wants and destiny. An unavoidable fork in the road.
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>>4770521
>A dream of marriage, fatherhood and aging alongside another, reflecting your desire to live and die as a normal man.
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>>4770521
>>A dream of marriage, fatherhood and aging alongside another, reflecting your desire to live and die as a normal man.

What an interesting dream for a primarch to have
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>>4770537
>>4770543
I’ll add another dream just incase two is acceptable
>>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.
Not everyday you get to hear Big E and Malcador talk privately
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>>4770521
>Five choices? how strange.
Damn, and here I am struggling to come up with a Great Horned Rat write-in. Looks like I'll have to settle for
>Three figures, a helmed man in flawless white armor astride an equally white horse, a beautiful maiden asleep in a coffin hewn from shimmering crystal, and a being so radiant it's as if it were light incarnate.
But if nobody else want's to torment Malal with coming up with a Gods of Order write-in, I'll vote for
>A dream of marriage, fatherhood and aging alongside another, reflecting your desire to live and die as a normal man.
Whichever wins, I think we should try this "sleeping" thing more. Who knows what we've been missing out on?
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>>4770572
>Malcador and Big E forgot to set their WarpChat room to private
How embarrassing.
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>>4770521
>Other giants
>A shadow unborn

I feel like seeing Malal would be intensely interesting. Actually seeing a god in our dreams is peculiar.
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>write in?
Mighty Lieren finds himself laying back against a mighty tree around him a clearing of gentle blossoms around the clearing predators lurk but do not bother him for the bones of a mighty one lay beneath him.

From the dark of the forest he hears muffled voices calling out and sometimes a golden light moves among the trees distant and hidden by branch and shrub yetnoe they behold one another.

Yet as he rests he sees something within the tree in which he takes solace the tree is smiling at him and the bones of the fallen
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>>4770521
>All that can be done, has been done. So you may, after near nine years of constant toil and labor, allow yourself the leisure of true rest.
Are you telling me, that our boy never slept once in the nine years he was awake? That's mighty impressive.

>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.
>Greet the strangers kindly, and ask for directions.
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>>4770521
>write in?
>a seer of other worldy elegance, adorned with robes of alien fashion. Atop it's head was a symbol that resembled a fish bone, and in one hand a staff of sorcerous power
ELDRAD!
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>>4770643
>wanting to dream about a giant dick
Slaaneshi corruption strikes from where one least expects it.
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>>4770521
>>The good your deeds have done to the world, the lives they have saved and bettered.

>A dream of marriage, fatherhood and aging alongside another, reflecting your desire to live and die as a normal man.
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>>4770521
>Other giants, with peculiar and queer appearances who seem so deeply familiar yet utterly foreign to your eyes.

There was already a Primarch who knew of Emps prior to being found in Magnus, let's dream of our brothers.
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>>4770521
>The good your deeds have done to the world, the lives they have saved and bettered.
> A shadow unborn, a light slain. Standing just out of reach with the most satisfied of grins upon his face half living and half skeletal
How creepy, it's our boy malal. I *would* say that it'd be interesting to listen to Father Emprah but this is more interesting to Lieren.

Also, while i'm not a fan of the choice, if Lieren does dream of marriage and fatherhoood, the wife better look suspiciously like Kanzeon. I'm no waifufag, though, so i still think it's not a good choice.'
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>>4770931
I just want to hear what Malal says to us. Because I think he will have a few words.
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>>4770521
>>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest
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>>4770521
>>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.
>> A shadow unborn, a light slain. Standing just out of reach with the most satisfied of grins upon his face half living and half skeletal
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>>4770521
>>A dream of marriage, fatherhood and aging alongside another, reflecting your desire to live and die as a normal man.

> A shadow unborn, a light slain. Standing just out of reach with the most satisfied of grins upon his face half living and half skeletal
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Marriage: 9

Emperor: 10

Other giants: 5

Shadow: 6

Good deeds: 2

write in[s]: 3

Looks like Emperor and marriage are the most popular votes by far. Damn.
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>>4770521
>A dream of marriage, fatherhood and aging alongside another, reflecting your desire to live and die as a normal man.
> A shadow unborn, a light slain. Standing just out of reach with the most satisfied of grins upon his face half living and half skeletal
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>>4771068
+1
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>>4770521
>Other giants, with peculiar and queer appearances who seem so deeply familiar yet utterly foreign to your eyes.
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>>4771060
Common lads, vote for dreaming of a normal life. Let's continue being the primarch of the common man.
We haven't really changed enough that any information on the other primarchs or the emperor would really matter compared to what we already know.
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>>4771160
While it is neat and all, dreams of our destiny are things which we can have and the unique experience of being close to a chaos god, albiet weakened considerably.

We love the commoners, but we are not one of them, and our paticular dreams wont change that.
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>>4771167
>But we are not one of them.
We are one of them, actually.
But yeah, Malal is the next best one because it would give us information we actually don't know. We know of emps and our brothers because of meta knowledge, we don't know shit about the one true God.
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>>4771173
Meant to say technically.
The whole joke is ruined.
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>>4771173
A panther among tabby cats are the same in Technicality only.

I'd actually go so far to posit that Lieren is closer to his moniker as a monk than a commoner at this point, by dint of his knowledge and wisdom. Even if deep down he thinks and acts as a hunter before all else.
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>>4771182
>>4771178
See, that's why it needed to say technically instead of actually, the meaning changed.
I mean, Gao never bothered hiving us a noble title right? After we recused marrying one of his daughters we staying being the head administrator, which although a position of power and importance, is part of the bureaucracy, and if it works like ancient china did, doesn't confer a noble title by itself.
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>>4771189
We refused his offer of nobility and wives of a few houses repeatedly, Dai and Yin's patriarchs both offered us a wife though mostly in jest
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>>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.
>>Other giants, with peculiar and queer appearances who seem so deeply familiar yet utterly foreign to your eyes.
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>>4771060
I'm personally not that much of a fan of the marriage idea.
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>>A dream of marriage, fatherhood and aging alongside another, reflecting your desire to live and die as a normal man.
>>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.>>4770567
pretty much this , a mingling of ourdesire for peace and a calm life as well as our destiny, THE HEROS JOURNEY calls.
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>>4771264
Why not? It fits Lieren perfectly. He desires to just be a simple man and that is the simple mans dream. A long life and a happy family.
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>>4771264
If it makes you feel any better, the only real romantic option he has is the ship, considering his lifespan expectancy and lack of sexual desire.

Hell hes already said he wont abandon her to solitude afterall.
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>>4771325
>>4771264
It could even be to a certain robo mom under the mountain ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Love takes many forms as it were
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>>4771333
I personally don't care for nor support that idea, but I am interested in why anon isn't a fan of dreaming about the simple dream.

It's okay to desire things.
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>>4771264
I agree with this, Lieren is still an primarch, and i'm fairly certain the Emperor removed any ability to even feel love from them on purpose.
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>>4771371
To be fair I don't think any primarch can feel what you or I can quantify as romantic intent in any normal way. Let alone towards another human, I envision it more the way say master chief "loves" cortana

>>4771383
He probably did, but the emperor made the primarchs to miss a bunch of human emotions, and yet they still have them and in an unhealthy way
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>>4771383
It's not really love, but a desire to live a nor al life.
That's a part of the Emperor's desire too, it could have reflected in Lieren or something.

But really guys, if you don't want to vote for the normal dream, than vote for the Malal option, we don't have much to learn out of our brothers and father occ other than possibly who has already been found or if the crusade is going toward us.
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>>4771383
I don't think that's the case. Otherwise, Corvus Corax wouldn't have given any regard to his 'big' sister, and Kor Phaeron would have died a violent death the first time he had Lorgar beaten into a pile of bruises.
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>>4770521
>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.
>Other giants, with peculiar and queer appearances who seem so deeply familiar yet utterly foreign to your eyes.

Guys, let's focus on the beneficial choices. Knowing about the other primarchs and Emps will allow us to plan how to grest them IC. I don't understand why people want to pick the option that will bring dissapointment and suffering to Lieren, specially after his victory. If he wants to form a family, he must know first about his immortality and about his duty, otherwise, the decision is made upon a wrong foundation and will collapse
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>>4771383
Roboute definitely loved Tashara and Konor.
Vulkan loved his family on Nocturne and liked that one remembrancer that he killed eldar kids when he thought they killed her, something that haunted him for a good while after.
Perturabo, autist extraordinare, loved his adopted sister so much that he let her call him "Bo."
Angron, fucking Angron, loved his gladiator comrades so much that he went even more insane after they died.
Primarchs can absolutely love, the facade of them being unable to is just that.
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>>4771430
Don't forget about Leman, who loved canids so much that all his sons are half wolves
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>>4770521
>>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.
>> A shadow unborn, a light slain. Standing just out of reach with the most satisfied of grins upon his face half living and half skeletal
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>>4770521

Never mind, changing the primarch option of >>4771427 to:
> A shadow unborn, a light slain. Standing just out of reach with the most satisfied of grins upon his face half living and half skeletal.
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>>4770521
>A dream of marriage, fatherhood and aging alongside another, reflecting your desire to live and die as a normal man.
> A shadow unborn, a light slain. Standing just out of reach with the most satisfied of grins upon his face half living and half skeletal
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>>4770521
>>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.
>> A shadow unborn, a light slain. Standing just out of reach with the most satisfied of grins upon his face half living and half skeletal
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Btw, with all the voting we have forgotten about the most important thing: let's all celebrate the fact that our great friend, Cao Yunru, went from weak, gunpowder-making virgin that served the Yan to chad intellectual that fucks his hot wife after killing some chaos cultists and saving the capital of the kingdom. If this is what a few hours of talking to Lieren and getting a soul link can achieve, then the moment we meet our astartes they are going to double in size and strenght, then they will start flexing alongside the custodes, with pillarman soundtrack music in the backgorund and everything
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>>4771577
Yeah, Cao has become very based.
Now we must await for his firstborn to be a tactician named Cao Cao and induct him into our legion
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>>4771577
To be fair, that's about what happened to almost every Legion when they met their primarchs.
Nothing like meeting your gene-daddy to get you proper fucking motivated.
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>>4771606
And if your genefather has a less short-term but more stable and long-term focused waagh field that empowers your mind, body and soul the more effort you put and the more prosperity you bring to mankind, and you happen to be a member of a very heroic and nice astartes Legion...
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>>4771386
I'm not saying that Lieren feels a romantic love for anyone or anything, I'm just saying that it fits with him to desire the most humble and simple life that nearly everyone else has. Because as we have memed before, Lieren just wants to farm and take care of Nothing and it's the universe and Yan's injustices which forced his hand.

And soon the Vishnu shall force his hand further, but for now let him have his hope.
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>>4771589
i want to see that happen.
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> A shadow unborn, a light slain. Standing just out of reach with the most satisfied of grins upon his face half living and half skeletal
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>>4771621
Oh yeah, it's gonna be a nice feedback loop for sure.
That said, what happens when we inevitably take on considerable losses?
It's gonna happen at some point no matter how good we are, but think about it.
Lieren is definitely gonna get depressed, and the Legion is definitely gonna get depressed independent of that.
Now think about how the Soul-Link is gonna exacerbate that.
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>>4771649
I don't think he would.

Lieren is many things, but I don't think he is the sort to get depressed so much as wail in grief for a few days/a week tops and get a hold of himself.
The journey is all about that healthy mindset man, and Lieren's walls have been broken once and repaired within a week, patched within a few hours.
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>>4771649
We literally developed our own solution to that problem. Though I’d be more worried about surviving Rangdan xenocide and the bullshit that is the Slaugth.
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>>4771649
If we go by what happened with Small Chen? Lieren is gonna get sad for a couple of days, enter a fell mood and leave the workshop with a new artifact.
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>>4771649
Lieren has alredy dealt with grief a few times, and he gets better at everything after he meditates a little about it. I doubt that he would let his Legion be crippled in such a way, but if they ever suffer enough losses as to cause the effect you have described, then we are probalby dealing with the Rangdan xenocides. But what if all II Legion astartes feel Lieren and his literally infinite love for humanity, and the love of everyone trusting them not to fail, not to give up. I think that would be the perfect environment for our forces to get shonen powerups.
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>>4771672
Lieren is chinese and the Slauht are worms, maybe he can devise a method to deepfry them and thus supply his entire Legion with high quality food
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>>4771693
Fey, not fell actually.
I don't think Lieren would be capable of murdering someone and crafting something out of their body. Especially after what he saw in the Yan palace.
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>>4771649
Simple, Lieren will stand back.
He knows that defeats happen, just because he will lose time to time it doesn t mean it ends. Lieren cares for his own, he is moving forward even for the people that have fallen. Doesn t mean he can t mourn for them too. He keeps them in his heart, beside making cemeteries for them,

Straight out of Nothing to beat evil in to a pulp.
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>>4771693
>This is a ceramite death mask
>All craftmanship is of the highest quality
>It is encrusted with jade
>It is encircled with bands of ancient steel
>On the item is an image of Lieren, Primarch of the IInd Legion, embracing an unknown Astartes
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>>4771712
Using an enemy's corpse to craft impromptu weapons to kill another enemy, sure. Making things for fun, Big NO. The funny thing about Lieren is that he is an ultrapragmatist, so he would do literally anything within reason if that was the best or only option. Like that time he went full "Of course! How could I've beeen so blind! If I cannot breath inside this room and the daemon just railguned me against a wall, I'll just use the energy of the throw to koolaidman myself through a massive wall on par with the giant palace gates whose weight and durability made them, by my own mention, the heaviest and more durable thing I've ever moved in my primarch life"
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>>4771724
If Lieren starts hugging his astartes, the other Legions will get jealous to the extreme
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>>4771738
No, they'll only get jealous when they see the monolithic fridge Lieren is gonna build to display all of his gene-sons' works of art.
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>>4770521
>A dream of marriage, fatherhood and aging alongside another, reflecting your desire to live and die as a normal man.

>Other giants, with peculiar and queer appearances who seem so deeply familiar yet utterly foreign to your eyes.
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>>4771702
>>4771707
Slaugth are soul-eating psychic nulls with tech that can be discribed as necron bullshit combined with tyranids bullshit.
>>4771731
I can see him using tyranid parts without hesitation.
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>>4771787
>I can see him using tyranid parts without hesitation.
Once the proper testing has been done to see what makes them tick, I don't see why not.
I'm sure the Vishnu components of our Legion would enjoy having weapons and armor crafted from great beasts.
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>>4768351

it s an interesting idea, i think having the ying and yang is cool for them. For their union. I am not sure the one with the yellow and light blue in the back is the best, but it s kind of cool.
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>>4771882
Nice job as always, but yeah, the pink and blue looks nicer.
Now even if pick the bone and gold scheme, Shangrala will still have the azure and plum as their colour.
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>>4771882
I fucking love your art. Few quests get enough love as to recieve consistent high quality content. I'm glad this one does.
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>>4771882
what do the characters say? are they family names or something?
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>>4770521
>>A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.
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Calling the vote now.

A dream of marriage, fatherhood and aging alongside another, reflecting your desire to live and die as a normal man:14

A man, who resembles your father Wenyan, and a stranger hidden by golden radiance and a conversation held by the edge of a great forest.: 17

A shadow unborn, a light slain. Standing just out of reach with the most satisfied of grins upon his face half living and half skeletal: 13

Other giants, with peculiar and queer appearances who seem so deeply familiar yet utterly foreign to your eyes.: 8

The good your deeds have done to the world, the lives they have saved and bettered.:2

Mighty Lieren finds himself laying back against a mighty tree around him a clearing of gentle blossoms around the clearing predators lurk but do not bother him for the bones of a mighty one lay beneath him.:1


Three figures, a helmed man in flawless white armor astride an equally white horse, a beautiful maiden asleep in a coffin hewn from shimmering crystal, and a being so radiant it's as if it were light incarnate.:1

a seer of other worldly elegance, adorned with robes of alien fashion. Atop it's head was a symbol that resembled a fish bone, and in one hand a staff of sorcerous power:1

Total votes: 34! By holy terra's tits! that's a lot of votes! 2 more than the previous record! And I liked the three write ins, even though they didn't get any traction.

So Lieren shall dream of two men conversing at the edge of the wild's. One who resemble Wenyayn, and a stranger hidden by a golden radiance

Writing now.

And more than one vote could have been included, but by the rule of 1 less than half, only one reached the requirements to be included
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>>4772374


>>4771882
Lovely and stylish. fantastic work anon! I think both versions work well

>>4771589
Remember, dynasty warriors gives him the title, the hero of chaos. But I do love Cao Cao, from both the three kingdoms and its numerous adaptations.

>>4771724
That's both funny and sad, but in a good way

>>4771738
>>4771746
Hehehe

>>4771731
> The funny thing about Lieren is that he is an ultrapragmatist, so he would do literally anything within reason if that was the best or only option. Like that time he went full "Of course! How could I've beeen so blind! If I cannot breath inside this room and the daemon just railguned me against a wall, I'll just use the energy of the throw to koolaidman myself through a massive wall on par with the giant palace gates whose weight and durability made them, by my own mention, the heaviest and more durable thing I've ever moved in my primarch life"

Imagine being a remembrancer and asking Lieren of his battle with the "Mysteryious xenos infilitrator" because his sons and followers keep giving outrageously tall tales

And he just proceeds to describe exactly what they had already been told, but in greater detail.


>>4771990
As am I! every time I see any fan art, I just get giddy.

>>4771292
The hero with a thousand faces, or just two, or one.

>>4770573
Funnily enough, Voormis had Skaven on it.

>>4770643
Remember, Eldrad saw Lieren's soul hack melt the eyes out of an unfortunate farseer who happened to be looking in his direction while he grasped the fragment of enlightenment
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>>4772375
>Funnily enough, Voormis had Skaven on it.
If you ever want a break from Shangrala, I'd play the shit out of 2nd Primarch What-If oneshots. Any chance of us stumbling upon the other starting worlds during the Crusade?
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>>4772375
Is the wife gonna be Kanzeon?
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>>4772449
it will remain a mystery, because that choice got three less than half votes
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>>4772479
Ohhhhhhhhhh it's going by total votes then.
That clears it up.
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>>4772479
Goddammit. So close.

The duality of the two dreams would have been a sweet touch.
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>>4772479
>>4772449
>>4772481
It's totally gonna be Kanzeon.
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>>4772498
It's gonna be a copy of The Journey wearing a wig and a dress.
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>>4772524
That feels like quasi incest
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A strange sight greeted your eyes. Out of the fog, an expansive weald emerged from the morning mists and gloom. It was as if the expansive, silver, gold and brass barked trees repelled the natural shroud of Shangrala, as if they were host to some arcane form of technology or pure sorcery itself that was potent enough to disobey and even bend the laws of the natural world with a capricious ease.

The trees, if they were indeed trees at all, pierced the still fog veiled heavens. They must have been old when the land itself was young, every silent wardens who had witnessed the passing eons and endured all of the change and strife that they brought. Their youngest branches dwarfed the grandest abodes of men, their eldest could be carved into cities. Leaves and vines that had grown both wider and taller than even yourself, glowed with a phosphorescent radiance burning away not only the fog but the air it hung upon as well.

Falls of rapid waters churned bone white poured into lakes so vast and yawning their waters were colored the very shade of the stellar abyss. Vaporous trails stained autumn red, fiery orange and sickly yellow whipped and danced along the currents of air generator by the ever roiling waters, birthed from where they mingled and eventually melded together into a boiling iron grey slurry.

A subconscious, and dread realization dawned upon your torpid mind. These were not trees, that was not water. Suddenly, awareness flushed through your being, and you understood the sight before your eyes was not real and was but a glimpse into the theater performed by an unconscious mind. A dream. With little basis in reality or the material world at all. However, the sight before your eyes, was no mere illusion or fantasy born of stress and exhaustion. Despite the haze that surrounded the vision, a sign that it was a hallucination brought upon to entertain your tired, exhausted mind, there was a stark sense of true awareness and actuality as well.

That is why, comprehending the true nature of the scene before your eyes unnerved you to such an extent that it even began to chill your blood as frigid as the uncaring storms of winter. Though your mind remained languid, sparks of consciousness allowed you to become a waking dreamer in a sense.

The forest was not clad in bark. Rather the "trees" were clad in a foreign metal entirely unknown to you, but one that was not the mere product of an inactive mind. Indeed, the tress were not trees at all, but titanic towers and cities layered atop each other like stacked cups or the bricks, stones and mortar of a wall. Yet, you could not imagine them as anything but magnificent trees while simultaneously viewing them with horror as the product of industry and expansion gone mad. Such a paradox further befuddled your already confused mind, and was nearly enough before something else demanded your full and undivided attention.
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>>4772533
I agree. Book fucking is Lorgars thing, the sick fucko.
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>>4772537

Before you could begin to ponder if the flowing waters were some chemical by product or boiling lubrication of unseen machinery, you spotted two men, as the vision began to calm again. Like settling waters, the dream once more became a soothing sight of nature, your torpid consciousness forgetting the truth of the forest and its waters as it was once more lulled into a state of pleasant inactivity.

Forgetting the nightmare that had been nearly unveiled by unmatched perception and subconscious scrutiny, your sleeping mind meandered closer to the duo, who conversed as old friends by the edges of the cyclopean woods, standing among constructions of unremembered empires and the abandoned machinery of bygone industries.

One reminded you of your own honored Wenyan. He is aged, the elder to any man you have priorly encountered. Even Guozhi, who seems so old yet so young, would be but a child compared to this cloaked fellow. Besides his overwhelming seniority and presence that demands a quiet respect, the similarities to your adoptive father are strengthened by the staff held within his hands. It is aflame with a strange, unnatural fire of a different but similar kind than the sorcerous flames brought into being by creatures like the unseen master and Huli Jing. It is wrapped by chains, and topped by a carved depiction of a bird of prey that somewhat resembles a hawk or eagle, but is missing the telltale sign of a flying raptor, for it has two eyes instead of three. It is more akin to a mingling of lesser fowl, such as chicken or cliff jumpers, than a true purebred predatory bird.

There is an aura surrounding this man, though he appears mundane and ordinary, the air around harbors an energy that you have grown accustomed to. The same sort of quiet power and unseen potential that has hidden itself within monk Guozhi's frail form, yet it is a far more concentrated and potent strain. And despite the overwhelming pressure exerted by the man's mere existence, that rivals Kanzeon's own nigh immeasurable soul, it is dwarfed by the presence that stands besides him as an old friend.

It is difficult to directly look upon the second figure. One moment, he is frail and withered man with clay dust red skin, the next he is a golden hided giant who stands even taller than yourself. Another he is dressed like an all conquering, scar covered warrior, another a silk clad scholar, and then the next a fur clad laborer. A thousand masks, a thousand lies, a thousand truths. Each tailored to appease the viewer, to sooth those who met with this great being. But there is one sign of continuity to the myriad of faces and bodies he wears, were his eyes. Your mind stirs from its slumber once more, as it begins to focus instinctively upon his eyes. A burning desire rouses more of your consciousness so it may better comprehend the half illusion presented to it.
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>>4772540

As the rest of the shifting man's form continued to change, affected by your subconscious bias and instinctive desires, you struggled to break the illusion, to see beneath the trickery and deceit as you had always done before. A physical sensation pierced the dream, a stabbing agony within your eyes and behind them. A burning sensation affecting your optical nerves. It was nearly enough to shock you awake.

But you willed yourself to remain dreaming, unable to permit this mysterious being's true form to remain as a mystery. Something deep within you refused to fail in this half conscious endeavor. So you now stood, on the border between dream and reality, subconscious and conscious, sleeping and waking out of a stubborn refusal to be denied the satisfaction of comprehending the oddity that pervaded the second man.

And, within the dream, for the first time in all your life. You felt small. Like a child. Even standing before Kanzeon, a life that had spanned untold millennium whose very essence would make the lifeforce of others seem dimmed and dull, was incomparable to the feeling of merely imagining the man of ever shifting shape. It felt as though you were a kitten in audience with a panther. Age without age, power without limit. It was akin to matching gazes with a god.

But this was no god, no. You could see his being truly, though the mere act of perceiving the nature of such a might existence pained you. It fevered the mind, the sheer labor of thought that was required to see through the glamor and radiance that surrounded the truth of the man's heart and essence.

A legion, A collection. He was at once both many and one. A conglomerate of souls and minds, melted down into one lonely existence. An endless sea bound within a single vessel. Humanity concentrated. But he was no god. You knew your kinfolk at a glance, though this man and his fellow to a far lesser extent, were sufficed with a great power and burdened by the weight of eons.

They were both human. Though the greater of the two had once been many, a strange concept.

The second man turned to face you, his old earth brown eyes softening with an almost fatherly concern before his attention was taken once more by his companion. His form settled, into that an almost unremarkable man. His jaw was square and hard, his hair long and darker than his eyes. For a moment, a mask attempted to settle upon him. That of a man whose hair was whitened by age and whose back was crooked by countless year of toil, but you refused such an illusion and forced yourself to continue perceiving the reality of the incomparable man.

While his companion was dressed in a heavy hooded robe woven of a strange green hued material, the familiar man stood dressed in resplendent golden armor, ornate yet functional. A raiment that clashed with the humbleness of his true form. He was no hardened warrior nor a glorious lord. He was but a man.
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>>4772542

A man who stood far above the pinnacle of ordinary men, but a man nonetheless. The distilled essence of hundreds reduced to a sole existence, how queer.

The first man, spoke to the other with the concern of a dear friend. His words were lost to you, but there was a familiarity to them. The deeper meaning was unknown to you, but it was obvious by his tone and mannerisms he was worried for his dear companions sudden display of distraction and worry.

The second man answered with a smile, and a reassuring touch to his friend's soldier. The words sounded alien, yet so close to your heart. It was irritating to hear them, being so close to understanding yet simultaneously so far from it. Like memories from a childhood you never had. It was troubling, yet also strangely reassuring. Your mind refused to settle back to a torpid state, and remained now entirely alert to the dream.

Slowly, the façade of the illusionary faded away, replaced by unrelenting industry and ever turning machinery, the fog turning black as it became hazardous smog as black as the depths of a winter's night.

And then, you were once again shocked awake. Not by the titanic constructions or ever churning industry that surrounded and powered the mountainous buildings and machinery. Not by the fields of ash and toxic chemical waste, not by the dry river and lakebeds, not by the sheer quantity of lesser men who wandered like half remembered wisps of the past below the two great men.

But by the fact their words were suddenly spoken in Yan.

"****, is something that matter? You looked gravely troubled for a moment. Has your power of precognition alerted you to some coming threat or danger?" The lesser of the two men asked, still sounding rather concerned for the wellbeing of his friend "Or is there something else that troubles you?"

"Oh, I just felt as though I was being observed, from across vast distances yet so closely watched. it is nothing for you to concern yourself over, it was just a brief impression of being looked upon, nothing more" The second man said with a warm, almost overjoyed expression, which instantly alerted the other man that it was far more than a mere gut instinct he had experienced.

"I would assume the observer is benign in nature, to illicit such a flippant response from you, ****?" The second man said almost blithely, returning his companion smile as he looked over the ever march industry before them.

"My lords?" A third, oddly familiar voice asks, directly where your perception sits "I apologize for speaking out of turn, but should I remain present for this conversation? It sounds like something that I don't have the clearance to be privy to"
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>>4772543

"Your concern for such matters is laudable, 2nd Legion Master Dae-Hyun, however, I believe you should be allowed to hear such a harmless discussion, after all it concerns not only yourself, but all of your brother ******* as well" The radiant man says, speaking a word you have no understanding off among the comprehensible Yan spoke

"They are not my only brothers, my lord. If you believe an officer can be allowed to listen into the top brass' conversation, I won't object, my lord " The third, unseen man says, using queer slang as he speaks in reply to his somewhat amused, apparent leaders

"I am still amazed the 2nd has fostered such fellowship with the more mundane elements of our army" The lesser great man muses, before the radiant one silences him with a glance and a nod "Oh even you must admit it was a welcome surprise, that such warriors could find commandry among normal men"

"It is a point of a different discussion, the matter that affects the present legion master have little to do with such an occurrence" The radiant one politely replies "But if I am correct in my assessment, I believe he is currently host to a portion of the disembodied conscious of..."

A wave of emotion drowns at the man's words.

"No wonder you were so overjoyed, despite the current events" The lesser man laughs, as his friend wipes a singular tear from his cheek "That can only be a good omen, if one of the ********* was able to reach out towards home. Perhaps reclamation will occur sooner than either of us have predicted"

"It is just feeling, and I know it is a wayward hope, but I cannot help but to believe in it, that at least one of my sons is safe in the vastness of the universe" The radiant man says, voice cracking with emotion, sorrow, joy, relief, and worry, all intermingled together. A complicated feeling, but one you know

"M..my father is present?" The third voice squeaked, sounding less like the veteran warrior he spoke like before and more like a child told his father was returning home.

"A mere wisp of him, a distant perception, but it seems, by some instinct, it has strayed to stand by your side. You should be honored Dae-Hyun, if your progenitor was able to use you as an anchor wherever he may wander" The radiant man says, words overflowing with joy and hope

"Though I do not recall such an ability being coded into his...." the robed man begins to state. Before your perception is drowned by such powerful emotion that even a will as strong as yourself can no longer cling to the dream, and you find yourself forcefully shunted back towards the waking world, a great fury acompanying your waking, as you still barely understand exactly what you saw.

Why the three presences felt so familiar. Where in the universe they stood, what they spoke of. Sons, fathers. Terms that had no equivalent in the Yan tongue. It was all so confounding!
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>>4772546

You had only half of the answers to your numerous questions. The remaining mysteries remained dangling just beyond comprehension! Taunting you!

Groggily, you became aware of your body once again, smelling dried blood upon your cheeks and feeling a dull throbbing ache behind your eyes.

Someone was calling your name, distantly in the city. Many were shouting it. The warmth of the sun spread across your prone form.

What shall you do, Lieren?
>Force yourself to sleep once again, hoping to dream the same scene again and find answers to the lingering questions
>Meditate upon what knowledge you did gleam, and reflect the feelings inspired within you by the three odd men you dreamt off
>Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion
>Seek advice from Kuan im, she should understand the meaning of dreams and visions better than any besides Guozhi
>write in?
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>>4772550
>>Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion

Once or if that is settled (hopefully within our lifetime tho I am doubtful)

>>Meditate upon what knowledge you did gleam, and reflect the feelings inspired within you by the three odd men you dreamt off
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>>4772550
>>4772554
Seconding. Also whew that was trippy. I thought we were gunna run into Malal tho.
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>>4772550
I'm getting cool uncle vibes from Malcador.

>>4772554
Supporting
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If this happens everytime Lieren takes a nap, he should take a nap more often. Maybe he can one day astrally project his consciousness.
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>>4772561
Yea but it looks like the commoners are rioting.

I bet they think we up and died.
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>>4772554
+1
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>>4772562
Looks like Naps and meditation sessions can wait another day. Hopefully when we've established a council of people to govern the kingdom so we can finally finish our bucket list.
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>>4772554
>Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion
Duty calls, but damn is it nice to finally get a glimpse at our family.
I'm also glad the existence of many souls converging into one being has been shown to Lieren.
One has to wonder how long it will be before he starts getting ideas...
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>>4772567
Hmm thats a thought. Next time we nap we should try to contact our brothers.
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>>4772550
>>Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion
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>>4772550
>>Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion
Gotta check on the people, also man we need to sleep more
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Made the bucket list. Any additions or changes?
https://pastebin.com/466WhYbD
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>>4772550
>Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion
>Write in
For the love of God see how our cub students are doing and the damn cow and horse!
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>>4772577
>codify the Carp and Fog Panther styles into compendiums
>create a new style intended for usage by the common man, meant to compensate for physical disparities between combatants
>try and find the mysterious men claiming to be your family again so you may communicate with them
>draft up designs for easily manufactured automatic firearms and metallic cartridges
>find a mate for Cui-Fu's horse
>try and push our physiology further via intense training
>try and locate anybody with psychic potential on Shangrala
I'm sure we're still missing stuff, but that's what comes to my mind.
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>>4772550
>>4772554
^This
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>>4772554
I'll support.
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>>4772550
Lieren managed to pierce the emperor's veil, holy shit.
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>>4772698
it did however require a huge mental strain and effort, and cause his eyes to bleed. but thus is the price to see the truth in all things
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>>4772740
Tearing your muscles is a worthy price to pay for stopping a speeding lorry with one hand.
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>>4772550
>Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion
>Seek advice from Kuan im, she should understand the meaning of dreams and visions better than any besides Guozhi
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>>4772550
>Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion
>Seek advice from Kuan im, she should understand the meaning of dreams and visions better than any besides Guozhi
>Meditate upon what knowledge you did gleam, and reflect the feelings inspired within you by the three odd men you dreamt off
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>>4772550
>>Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion
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>>4772550
>Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion
Oh good, now the emperor is going to be suspicious of chaos taint on us, going by e fury that kicked us out.
Atleast our legion seem to be doing the same thing as us, integration is probably going to be smooth.
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>>4772577
I think Dayiu and Jinhai should the the new emperors, to mark a new dynasty.
Also ypu should add
>Unite all the echoes of Ghuonzi's students into a single soul so they can rejoin life and the reincarnation cicle And adopt the child
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>>4772546
>2nd Legion Master Dae-Hyun
So we're a Chinese primarch with a legion of Koreans? That's gonna be tense.
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>>4772550
>Meditate upon what knowledge you did gleam, and reflect the feelings inspired within you by the three odd men you dreamt off
>Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion
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>>4773118
A thousand keks
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>>4772550
>>Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion
>>Seek advice from Kuan im, she should understand the meaning of dreams and visions better than any besides Guozhi
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>>4772550
>>>Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion
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>>4772740
Did that improve our Truth Vision at all?
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>>4773393
I think Malal is trying to say that is is somewhat damaging to perceive the emperors true self
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>>4773418
We require practice then. More meditation is required so Lieren doesn't become blinded when looking at god awfully powerful entities, like the emperor, greater demons, the chaos gods, etc.
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>>4773424
it wasn't the looking that hurt, it was going head to head with the emperor's own psychic might. Our eyes tried to undo the psychic glamour of the emperor himself and succeeded but he's that strong that the effort broke a few blood vessels.

Meditation isn't going to do shit, he's the emperor.
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>>4773435
Hes the Emperor sure, but Lieren is a Primarch. We're not trying to fight dear ol dad, just look at him from a better angle.

Which reminds me, we should ask him all the things that daemon name dropped about dad being the Anathema and other things I dont recall.
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>>4773481
That's still something that I don't recall any other Primarch managing to pull off. I don't think even Magnus was able to look past the veil at Big E's true form.
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>>4773481
You are trying to fight him by piercing his veil, you are directly contesting your psychic might against his, since our purposes are at a cross
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>>4772550
>Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion.
>Meditate upon what knowledge you did gleam, and reflect the feelings inspired within you by the three odd men you dreamt off.
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>>4773481
This is the pre-10.000 years of Galaxy wide worship Emps. He'll get much more powerful.
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>>4772550
>Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion
>Seek advice from Kuan im, she should understand the meaning of dreams and visions better than any besides Guozhi
That was a nice dream. It was even nicer accompanied by Throneperor's theme from TTS, which actually fits quite well.

Still though, what DID happen? I hope it's nothing too serious. I mean, how long did we sleep?
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>>4773118
>Korean
DEAR GOD NOT THE K-POP MARINES
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>>4773872
>K-POP MARINES
That would be Fulgrim's Legion, not ours.
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>>4773877
>Korean
>Popular with normies
>Will most likely want to sing Kind Golden Eyes
It's over. We're the fuckin' K-Pop Marines. May malal have mercy on us all, because the emperor sure won't.
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>>4773884
It could be worse.
They could have japanese recruits too and be v-tubers.
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>>4773893
Please don't damn us further.

>>4773865
Oh and they are probably just calling out our name to alert us to the fact Yan Zihao is kicking down the gate singing his war song and ready to rip us a new mouth open across our throat.
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>>4773893
>>4773884
>>4773872
>>4773877
>>4773906


CEASE YOUR LINE OF CONVERSATION
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>>4773940
Our sons will do mukbang after fighting genestealers, take thousand of pictures everywhere they go, do livestreams during combat and their avatars with female space marines draw in anime style.
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>>4774004
Bend over
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>>4774018
Good luck getting to me, toiletman.
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>>4774004
Soon enough, our marines will be leading charges to the sound of Chocolate Disco.
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>>4773872
>>4773884
>>4774004
I'm sitting here just Imagining Lieren and his sons doing that one Cinderella dance from yakuza 0.
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>>4774082
I'm starting to see why the emperor purged us.
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>>4774103
It is know that the emperor had bad taste.
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>>4774116
Maybe we can cook for him instead?
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>>4774143
No. We have to style all over his balls. It is the only answer.
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>>4774158
Please rephrase that in a manner that does not make the Skeleton shriek in agony.
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>>4774158
What the fuck
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>>4774164
No. We must perform K-pop dance moves until the emperor tries to kill us in shame. It is the only way.
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>>4774176
https://youtu.be/LEV_0VqZTXE
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What’s Slaanesh’s favourite web browser?
Firefox.
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>>4774928
Get out.
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>>4774928
very cool
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>>4774928
Based
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>>4774928
Very nice anon.
But I don't think it's their favorite anymore.
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>>4775155
I think I figured out what she was.
She was a handmaiden of Slannesh, that explains the power.
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>when you and your buddies see Lord Lieren waking up with bed head hair
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>>4775624
>Be Chen
>What Chen?
>Yes
>Be cutting the grass
>Don't work here, just woke up from hangover
>See giant hugging a tree in his sleep
Lieren: THE WORDS MASON, WHAT DO THEY MEAN!?!
>Ohfuck he's strangling the tree, that's not what a morning wood means dude!
> He woke up coverend in bandages, eyes bleeding and hair disheveled.
> [PIC RELATED]
> Still looks better than me.
Fucking KEK
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>>4775957
https://pastebin.com/sNmSARw6
Got a hearty kek out of that
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>>4775966
You know, I just noticed that Daiyu and Jinhai like eachother/have feelings for the other.
Malal I'm dense.
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>>4776092
Bruh
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>>4775966
>Added my suggestions
Based.
But shouldn't Tyrant's End (renamed city of Gao) be a better temporary capital than Nothing? It would already be a city, and therefore more easily acessible to the rest of the kingdom rather than the literal middle of nowhere, and already more developed too.
Can't keep the current capital the one since we are demolishing the palace and I doubt Cao's mansion is big enough.
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>>4776092
Anon...
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>>4776092
He has been hinting at it for the past 3 threads.
Fucking kek.
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>>4776092
>>4776105
I'm pretty sure Malal even hinted they have been fucking too actually.
Or atleast spending a lot of private time together.
The question is, when Lai entered the tent after our horse got there, where they at the middle of the act? Did we accidentaly cockblock our friends?
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>>4776094
>>4776104
>>4776105
Shuddup all of you, I was more focused on the fact we were fighting daemons and bringing prosperity everywhere than our brother's crushes.

>>4776117
And I doubt that they have been fucking given >>4763282 "While it stirred something mysterious in her heart" and "Yet it somehow excited Daiyu's heart"
If they've been fucking then this would be a bit old hat by that point.

As for spending time together, she is technically the presiding general and he's one of two elite genius' of warfare advising her. Nobody would bat an eye at their mutual company.
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>>4776142
I don't know, the Yan language is constantly described as being very flowery and poetic, and the two can be an awkward romantic couple in love.
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>>4776092
I count one person who doesn’t have kind golden eyes.
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>>4776092
Anon, I...
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>>4776102
Isn't it better to use the current capital? We're only demolishing the palace not the whole city right? It's already used as the capital for probably a long time so why not keep it that way? At least for now, if we want to build a better place for a capital we use the current one until then.
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>>4769307
Nice inspiration.
>>4771912
true they can still have those colors.
>>4771990
thank you, hopefully others will join too or continue like me. Of course if they can.
>>4772027
Correct it s the names, The one above is Gao, the one under is Jinhai.
>>4772375
good to hear


>>4772577
Excellent, i think it could be a good idea to have written (to decide), near the capital part of notes as an addition.
I have other written stuff but i had the idea to approach this in a organized matter. The idea that i have in mind, is using the great plan that we will present at our diet as something where we will list all of what we will do and suggest to do.

For example
Administration :
- assignement of overseer position (essentially not a ruler, but someone that can help around, take decisions ecc. We don t want to be a ruler, but we can still help in a way more suited for Lieren. title name could be anything better)
- great road continuation
- teaching the miracles across the state
ecc

War:
- Reform the army
ecc

Something like this, i have written a bit of fluff for it and i am checking around for old and new ideas of anons to add.
Our free time would be disconnect to the great plan, but we can still mention it more to Malal than in the story. Sort of like a program Lieren makes for his daily life.


>>4774928
great job !
Engulfed by flames she looks even more pissed off at Lieren


>>4776092
kek
>>4775966
good additions

//
Anyway here the Swallow of the Tao, who knows if they will return to be nobles ?
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>>4776347
It's kind of expected tbat the capital changes when the dynasty does, but we aren't really a stickler to unessesaary traditions, so that isn't a reason.
The main one is that we really don't know if it's secure, how many hidden passages and other rypea of caches there are, if there are any Yan sympathisersor rebbeçious movements, and the real reason is that we need a seat of power, a palace is big not only to house nobles, throw parties and impress, but to keep all of the administration centralized so it can more effectively govern. So if we decide to keep the capital where it is, we would need another temporary palace while we demolish the old one and build a new center of goverment.
While in the topic of goverment, are going for a bureoucratic state, feudal system, despotic monarchy, oligarchy, parlamentarism or some sort of combination of them all?
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>>4776395
I kind of doubt that the current capital, considering the size it was described to have, wont have a building large enough to be used as a temporary seat of power for the new nation we'll build. As for the goverment, it seems better to keep the nobles in charge for the time being since they are the only ones with the necessary knowledge and experience to govern the nation at least until we make the reforms we wanted to do and change the goverment when we have the proper preparations done first.
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>>4776395
Feudalism is the most efficient and familiar system we can do right now. The Vishnu are likely to attack in the coming months so radical changes to the style of government would create a period of vulnerability during the transition that the King of Kings could exploit.
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>>4774928
That's really fucking cool anon
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>>4776359
Real fuckin' nice.
>who knows if they will return to be nobles ?
Dandan is a Tao, right? I think that she's proven her house's loyalty several times over. Though we really gotta talk to her about her battle lust. And to that other guy about a similar problem, I forget who specifically.
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>>4776489
On the other hand, a professional army would be much more preferable, especially given how poorly the Yan levies performed against our forces, even when discounting the firearms.

And you can't really get a professional army under feudalism, the chain of command would be too fragmented.
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>>4776489
I not so sure, we could transition well into a bureaucratic administration given that the Yan is chinese inspired, and something like the medieval house of lords and house of commons in England wouldn't be so shocking to the populace.
Perhaps doing both while still mantaining some of imperial authority could work? So that way there is no risk that nation is stopped to a halt during our war with the rest of planet due to a transition.
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Everyone get to praying, I sense a rowdy and uncooperative machine spirit on the part of our spiritual liege.
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>>4777340
The machine spirit is angry that the anons didn't want to meet the half skull man.
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>>4777340
Please join me in hymn, sing along if you know the words.
https://youtu.be/vvr9AMWEU-c
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>>4777389
Ah yes, I love those old techno spirituals.
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>>4777386
Picking was real hard, I'm going to vote to sleep every time it makes sense just to see if we can dream the ones we missed, plus the write-ins.
>>4777389
Followed swiftly by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy-sVTaZRPk
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>>4777533
It was more of a joke about the similarities to a certain holy symbol than saying it was the wrong choice.
Poor machine is confused.Or is it?
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Sorry for the two day long wait. Calling the vote now. Ha

Wipe the blood from your eyes and cheeks, and see what caused such a sudden commotion:19

Meditate upon what knowledge you did gleam, and reflect the feelings inspired within you by the three odd men you dreamt off:9

see how your cub students are doing and the cow and horse!: 1

Seek advice from Kuan im, she should understand the meaning of dreams and visions better than any besides Guozhi:4

Total votes: 19

So Lieren will clean his face, and see what caused the sudden commotion, while making a mental note to meditate on the little knowledge he did gleam from his dream, when it is solved.

Writing now

So fucking sorry for the long wait, but it seemed like the universe was conspiring to keep me from my keyboard

>>4777340
>>4777386
>>4777389
>>4777533
>>4777581
Wasn't the machine spirits this time, just had a lot of irl bullshit/ chaos keeping me from sitting down to write for two days or so. But it seems to have passed.

I'm telling you this because I fear the machine spirit will rebel if it is wrongly blamed.

>>4772559
Sangunius did refer to him as uncle

>>4774928
Holy fucking shit that's cool. looks fucking fantastic. great work my man.

>>4776359
That is the EXACT shade of yellow I imagined for the Tao. Also, great work as always

>>4773118
Not just Koreans.

>>4773893
I mean, Kanzeon is japanese, kind of. Kanzeon is one of the names used in japanese for the goddess Guanyin. Which in Hokkienis Kuan im.
Gave some hints to that when you met her avatar.

Also you know, the fact that a type of oolong is called Tieguanyin, or Iron goddess of mercy due to the legend surrounding its discovery at a shrine dedicated to Guanyin

And, Kanzeon is sentient DOT ship who is kind, matronly and caring sooo

>>4775957
>>4773872
heh
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>>4778125
You made it quite obvious thatcthe priestess workship an interpretation of Kanzeon, but I didn't know it was a real world deity.
I did catch some of the monks suggesting that we were an avatar of the Yellow Emperor though, but that would fit big E way more, with his obscession with gold. We obviously would be the incarnation of the Jade Emperor, if you are going for a deity, you take the top
So will the 8 heavenly courts/gods/kings/whatever be based on the 8 immortals from taoism or be inspired from some other faith?
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>>4778185
Jade Emperor is a dick. More accurate to say Lieren is a bunch of notable mythological figures.
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>>4778195
The monkey king deserved banishment, he was being a cunt.
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>>4778202
Need I remind you that the Jade Emperor would absolutely be a tyrant by Lieren standards.
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>>4778218
Oh definatly.
And so will the Emperor, I'm not looking forward to that meeting.
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Sighing, you rise to your feet by pushing yourself off of the cool, shaded ground and hopping. The sudden movement disturbs the birds and other lesser forms of life that had gathered around your still form like pilgrims to a temple. Spoilt kittens, well bred hunting gods, and the various pest that infest gardens had gathered in peace to share in your warmth, and now flee back to the corners of the Cao manner scattered and alone.

There's a haze hanging over your mind, worsened by the stinging pain still ripping within and behind your eyes. It feels as though a heated iron spike was driven directly through their pupils and welded it to the bone surrounding the eyes. It is a terrible pain, only equaled by the injuries dealt by Huli Jing's flames and claws. It is a lingering agony, that settles deeper than mere flesh. A pain of existence, an affliction upon the soul. Whoever the radiant man was, he lived as an existence so powerful it was nearly obscene. Clearly the figures of your dream stood several degrees higher than any man, beast or monstrosity you had yet met. There was much to ponder, and you could spend weeks meditating on the merest portions of knowledge and information you were able to take from your dream.

However, the confusion that the vision of what appeared to be a distant world inhabited by humanity in the present would linger for awhile yet. There was quite the commotion within the capital's streets, judging from the sheer cacophony that roused you from your slumber and that trouble took far more precedence than your own curiosity. Discerning the meaning of your dream and the feelings it had imparted in you, could wait until the current trouble was calmed or otherwise entirely prevent.

Kneeling down before the stream that ran around the willow tree you had used as both shade and a screen to ensure privacy, you dip your hands into its cold waters and begins to wash and wipe away the blood from your face. The scent of copper and iron swiftly fades, replaced with the nearly intoxicating floral aroma of Cao Yanyu's gardens. Taking another handful of water in your hands, you further cleanse your face, pressing a thumb on your nostrils before blowing them to clear them of any debris or lingering pollen that may muddy your senses. Wiping the remaining drops of water away, you quickly march through the Cao family's estates.

And to your delight, see thatt only a handful of your patients passed during the night and that the majority of them are well on their way to recovery. Kuan Im and several of her peers in the esoteric and occult, are holding ceremonies for the dead though they seem to be having some trouble deciding which faith's rite should be given the honor of directly following the repetition of the Journey's words to the empty vessels they tend to.

It would appear childish, if it wasn't clear that each of the "holy" men and women were acting so foolish out of genuine concern and pity for the deceased.
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>>4778313

It was the only way they knew to respect the dead. They were not warriors, or workers. They were simple scholars and theologians. Like the solemn wakes of the common folk, or the celebrations of the nobility this was simply their way of grieving. And they grieved and prayed for the souls of people who they were not even acquaintances of.

The sight made you hopeful that peace would reign in the coming years and the era they would reflect, moreso than whatever form of anarchy or breed of madness had afflicted the populace beyond the sanctity of the Cao family's estate. Worryingly, however, you hear from a servant that your friend and lord of these estates, had left earlier in the morning with his wife and retainers.

However, the guard is a rather poor specimen of his occupation, as he has drunk himself to a state of lethargic inebriation and slurs most of his words before going on rambling, pointless tangents about some meaningless distraction or story of his past. So you mark his forehead with the character for Scold, using mud as ink, before you leave him to suffer the consequences for his mindless indulgences to enter to noble quarter of the city, prepared for any foe or force that may await your within.

Instead, you find a celebration. Flowers of all colors and hues, tossed to the streets and pinned to walls, still drying paintings depicting your numerous battles and victories or other stories spawned from the march of progress or that of your army. Callous hand laborers dance with heirs of noble lines, alms are given by ladies dressed in the finest of silks who you realize at a second glance are in fact menial workers, weavers, potters and butchers, dressed in such finery while at their side dressed far more plainly are the actual ladies who hand to them the riches they are giving so freely to urchins and orphans taken so far from home.

You stop, astonished and someone caught off guard by the festival that now surrounded you. After a near year of bloodshed, you had been somewhat trained to anticipate violence first and foremost above any other probability. Standing still, you can't help but to wonder if perhaps this is another dream that has managed to fool your perception. Its befuddling really, the morning prior these people were ready to take up arms against each other, to slaughter and kill out of blind fear. And yet here they now stood, celebrating and mingling so closely you'd think they were all members of one family.

Something was amiss, and that was more worrying than finding a city consumed by fire and bloodshed in the night's wake. But, the air was free of any of the telltale signs that would foretell the presence of an evil spirit or the corruption they sowed upon the world. And besides the overpowering scent of spices and fragrance of cooking meat, stewing vegetables and roasting fruits, there was no aroma upon the air that would warn of a narcotic or intoxicant.
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>>4778316

The only scent besides the food being served, and the flowers coating the street, was the scent of temple incenses and drying paints and dyes.

However, upon closer observation and study of the scents accompanying the wild sights before you, understanding dawns upon your mind. You didn't smell the aromas of this street side feast, because your senses had become accustomed to it. The food being cooked, and served to any and all without so much as a coin exchanged or bartering underway, were the spare provisions of your army.

The fruits of the agricultural knowledge you had helped foster and cultivate. Squashes, radishes, and other staple crops throughout the former lands of Gao and Dai! The spices, however were northern and quite alien to your nose, which had befuddled your recognition of these otherwise familiar senses.

It is a joyful realization, though you feel the fool it is cause for being merry and relieved rather than shamed. The commotion wasn't caused by some riot or war waged upon the streets. Rather, the people were celebrating! together! unified as one! the different classes and stations of society intermingling deeper than you ever hoped to witness within your lifetime. Its still rather strange that such a blissful festival could arise from the tensions of the prior nights, but you cannot but be thankful that they chose to ease their nerves with peaceful celebration rather than violent retribution.

A painter who was once employed in the palace, hands out white masks with golden eyes painted upon them, you spot the Yingjie and the girl once hunted among the crowd of youths clamoring to get their own mask. Its all so very reminiscent of the festival that was held at the city now known as Tyrant's end to celebrate the prosperity your wrought, the accomplishments you had a part in achieving, and the good your deeds and actions had done.

Walking unnoticed among the blithe and carefree crowed, you watch the procession of generosity, understanding and kindly deeds pass around you. For a moment you are in bliss, happy to be merely a witness to such unity and simple joy. After all, its clear your forces have arrived to the city victorious, judging from the panther skins hanging upon the walls of the various noble villas and palaces, which seems to be the answer to the mystery of how such strong unity could come from such tumultuous tension.

However, this momentary joy and blissful serenity is soon broken, when someone among the teeming masses that surround you blinded by their own cheerfully relaxed attitudes notices you.

And refers to you as "King Lieren" and mentions you having finally awakened. And all of the warmth that has found a home in your heart fades away as your blood runs cold. The excited babbling of the balding man with a red face that could only be caused by dragon's spit, alerts you to several facts.

Namely, that you had slept for an entire week. Eight entire days, without rousing or waking.
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>>4778318

And that, apparently, while the various leaders of the city and the liberation army waited for you awake, patiently and unafraid that you may not ever rise from your slumber.

Someone, maybe one of them decided to declare you as the head of the realms new ruling dynasty at the dawn of this morning!. Was it Yin lei? the most zealous of your followers? Dai Niu, seeking to repay a portion of his debt to you? Did, perhaps, Liang and Rong get drunk and start running their mouths? Maybe it was Cao Yanyu, who misspoke during a midday meeting with her friends and acquaintances? Did Luli manage to right a note that became gospel in the eyes of those consumed by the fervor of freedom? Kuan Im, perhaps? Maybe the Vishnu called you king and no one had the courage to argue against it? You would suspect Qian Xia, however she is still comfortably languishing within the seat of her family's power with her "little brother", far from the horrors of war.


But, you keep from shouting, or suddenly grimacing, as you have been told and are well aware the expression you make while angry tend to be rather terrifying to the point you have caused a few criminals and villains to expire from heart attacks before they could receive their rightful judgement

How do you react to this, Lieren?
>Very sternly proclaim you are no lord and are certainly no king. Just a farmer and hunter blessed with inborn wisdom! Try and stop this misunderstanding before it gets out of hand
>Gather your follower and allies, and after finding out which of them if any started this nonsense, order them to hold a vote to decide the new king amongst themselves
>Calm yourself and then when you've found the heart of the celebration, announce that the entire populace can decide their king and you will abdicate to whoever is elected
>Furiously begin to denounce the mere existence of a monarchy! Reminding the people of what resulted of the last dynasty spawned by a great hero!
>Write in
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>>4778322
>>Calm yourself and then when you've found the heart of the celebration, announce that the entire populace can decide their king and you will abdicate to whoever is elected
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>>4778322
>>Calm yourself and then when you've found the heart of the celebration, announce that the entire populace can decide their king and you will abdicate to whoever is elected
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>>4778322
>>Calm yourself and then when you've found the heart of the celebration, announce that the entire populace can decide their king and you will abdicate to whoever is elected
I have a suspicion they're just going to choose us, but oh well.
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>>4778318
>refers to you as "King Lieren"
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>Gather your follower and allies, and after finding out which of them if any started this nonsense, order them to hold a vote to decide the new king amongst themselves
Note that letting the people decide will probably just end with them choosing us again, and the fact that a lot of these people have very little experience with democracy and have very little education about a lot of important things that would let them make more informed votes, also a massive lot of them are likely very inebriated
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>>4778322
>>Calm yourself and then when you've found the heart of the celebration, announce that the entire populace can decide their king and you will abdicate to whoever is elected
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>>4778322
>Very sternly proclaim you are no lord and are certainly no king. Just a farmer and hunter blessed with inborn wisdom! Try and stop this misunderstanding before it gets out of hand.
>Find the council and your companions , and discuss with them about setting up a system where the monarch withholds part of their powers to an wing of trained bureaucrats and house of elected representatives.
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>>4778322
>Gather your follower and allies, and after finding out which of them if any started this nonsense, order them to hold a vote to decide the new king amongst themselves
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How will we even get everybody's vote? Yan is huge, and if we only give voting rights to the people in the capital, would that really be fair?
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>>4778322
>Calm yourself and then when you've found the heart of the celebration, announce that the entire populace can decide their king and you will abdicate to whoever is elected.
>Very sternly proclaim you are no lord and are certainly no king. Just a farmer and hunter blessed with inborn wisdom! Try and stop this misunderstanding before it gets out of hand
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>>4778371
Also, it seems that curse of important shit happening everytime the main character sleeps is starting to spreads to other quests.
>>4778384
People probably aren't thinking it completly through.
Although if there is one person that could pull it off, it would be the road builder and villager connector himself.
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>>4778322
>>Very sternly proclaim you are no lord and are certainly no king. Just a farmer and hunter blessed with inborn wisdom! Try and stop this misunderstanding before it gets out of hand
>>Gather your follower and allies, and after finding out which of them if any started this nonsense, order them to hold a vote to decide the new king amongst themselves
changeing my vote
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>>4778322
>>Very sternly proclaim you are no lord and are certainly no king. Just a farmer and hunter blessed with inborn wisdom! Try and stop this misunderstanding before it gets out of hand
>>Gather your follower and allies, and after finding out which of them if any started this nonsense, order them to hold a vote to decide the new king amongst themselves
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You people DO Understand that if we try to hold a vote, then everyone will just vote for Lieren, right?

It'll be completely and utterly useless.
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>>4778322
>>Very sternly proclaim you are no lord and are certainly no king. Just a farmer and hunter blessed with inborn wisdom! Try and stop this misunderstanding before it gets out of hand
changing to this, voting isn't exactly a great idea in the middle of a party now that I think about it
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>>4778410
>>4778357
Yes and? Lieren is the perfect leader whether he wants to admit it or not and democracy belongs in the trash.
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>>4778349
That's the expression I imagine most of the Mao's "desperation" army had when Lieren used them to (Nonlethally) test his limits
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>>4778322
>>Furiously begin to denounce the mere existence of a monarchy! Reminding the people of what resulted of the last dynasty spawned by a great hero!
Democracies and monarchies are for suckers!
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>>4778442
And then we will have to do a revote, this time saying to vote for the candidates on the ballot, instead if writing Lieren on top.
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>>4778447
>the ogre just walked up to our encampment
>surely he doesn't mean to take us on barehanded
>nevermind he just tore through the elite guard
>he's coming this way
>prayerstotheheavenlycourt.silktapestry
>oh thank the gods he ignored me
>...why can't I breathe?
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>>4778392
Supporting this.

>>4778442
You're a cunt, got it.
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>>4778494
Don’t get what your problem is. I said nothing wrong.
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>>4778494
Getting real heated over a choose-your-own adventure story being told on a Singaporean backgammon forum.
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>>4778322
>Very sternly proclaim you are no lord and are certainly no king. Just a farmer and hunter blessed with inborn wisdom! Try and stop this misunderstanding before it gets out of hand
>Gather your follower and allies, and after finding out which of them if any started this nonsense, order them to hold a vote to decide the new king amongst themselves
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>>4778506
Central nervous system, son.

It produces expletives in response to egregious stupidity.

More seriously: Representative democracies work. They don't work well, they don't work pretty, but they work a hell of a lot better than any other form of governance we've tried, if only because it's harder for an utter incompetent to stay in the hot seat once he has to actually, well, govern.

It only doesn't work in 40k because the setting takes every measure to stack the deck against it, up to and including author fiat.

Now, granted:we're a Primarch, and we actually give a shit. That makes us a better candidate for King than anyone else can name at the moment....

...except we have more important things to do than day-to-day governance even now. Pushing forward technology--electricity, typesetting, that sort of thing. Excavating that ship. Infrastructure. Dealing with the Vishnu.

In the short term, we should delegate governance to people we--and the people--can trust. In the long term, we should be doing everything we can to ensure that the government remains responsive and responsible without our constant intervention so we can go do things more worthy of our time.
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>>4778545
>Representative democracies work
They always fail and they fail the hardest when they do.
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>>4778322
>Furiously begin to denounce the mere existence of a monarchy! Reminding the people of what resulted of the last dynasty spawned by a great hero!
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>>4778566
Hardest at what? Not falling into communism?

The French monarchy, the Emperor of All the Russias, the Qing, all of these monarchies chose to double down on their power and paid for it with their lives. All those constitutional monarchies that survive to this day did so by adopting more representative forms of government, not less.

For that matter I've never seen you back that statement up, or been seriously challenged for that matter. Do you have examples? Reasoning? Something more concrete than the mewling authoritarian-follower personality you call a gut?
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>>4778592
> Not falling into communism?
https://youtu.be/_n5E7feJHw0
You seriously have never what Yuri said.
> Do you have examples? Reasoning? Something more concrete than the mewling authoritarian-follower personality you call a gut? Do you have examples? Reasoning? Something more concrete than the mewling authoritarian-follower personality you call a gut?
Democracy (or Republicanism if you prefer) is not the best system because there is none but I dislike it because of how easy it is subvert. Remember that Stalin said that the “those who vote decide nothing, those who count the vote decide everything”. Representative democracy also has a habit of creating parties which divide the nation. Even worse if a bad ruler gets in they can pin the blame on the voters to remove some of the blame on them. There’s also the fact that bureaucracy bloat is especially bad under democratic systems. Then there is the problem of mob rule. Also is democracy is so great why did people gravitated back to monarchies in the Roman Empire? Democracies becomes hellish when they get corrupt and there is no system that can match their tyranny when they do.
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>Gather your follower and allies, and after finding out which of them if any started this nonsense, order them to hold a vote to decide the new king amongst themselves.

It needs to be a member of our inner circle to be accepted maybe a tribunal instead? A Zodiac Council! The head of each house alongside ourselves
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>>4778322
>Calm yourself and then when you've found the heart of the celebration, announce that the entire populace can decide their king and you will abdicate to whoever is elected
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>>4778322
>>Write in
calm yourself and let s go to our inner council. We can talk about it with them in detail. Beside we have more than one idea for how the government should be made. Giving a council to the figure of the king, and perhaps some representatives from other classes beside the nobility could be an idea.

But before talking about government, first of all hug them. The fact that they are alive and survived the battle is great. Afterwards some news about the current situation and then government talk. Maybe is already time for us to call the diet we had in mind, though we need the war to end first.
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I refuse to believe Lieren doesn't realizes that a vote is a mere formality, i would really like tho se Emps reaction to a republican Primarch, but king Lieren votes will win for sure, I guess we could settle for a constitutional monarchy.
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>>4778997
He is a clever boy.

the popular vote choice, is just him delaying the outcome by making it so by his mandate, the tally of ALL of the people's votes has to be read before its official.

The committee choice, is instead trusting in his allies and friends to not force him into a position he has no desire to hold. Though he'd know the outcome instantly because of his ability to read people and special eyes.

However, the outcome of either choice winning I won't spoil, since it can be changed by specifications, other votes being included, and write ins.

And cause spoilers are gayer than fulgrim.

But I Figured I should clear things up a bit. Probably could've worded the choices better.
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>>4779004
also if you're wondering. I didn't mention the other two default choices because they aren't directly going "Vote for who becomes king"

And cause I think they're pretty obvious in their intent and possible outcomes
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>>4778322
>Gather your allies and get to the bottom of this.

We can abdicate quickly but we need info.
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>>4778322
>Furiously begin to denounce the mere existence of a monarchy! Reminding the people of what resulted of the last dynasty spawned by a great hero!
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>>4778699
>Also is democracy is so great why did people gravitated back to monarchies in the Roman Empire?
because Caesar attacked the city with an army and declared himself Emperor? and others we're declared emperor after him?

If Monarchies are so great why hasn't Britain gone back to being one? Why isn't Saudi Arabia a shining beacon on a hill?

>how easy it is subvert
as opposed to a Monarchy? Oligarchy? less people involved means it's harder to subvert?

>There’s also the fact that bureaucracy bloat is especially bad under democratic systems
how was the bureaucracy doing before we arrived? I recall a certain corrupt tax collector...

>Democracies becomes hellish when they get corrupt and there is no system that can match their tyranny when they do.
like the last anon asked do you have any specific examples of this?
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>>4778699
Wait, are you saying that authoritarian goverment impede bureaucratic bloat? On the quest about the space chinese?
And when democracies turn violent and opressive, it's after the safeguards of freedom have been dismantled, normally after a crysis, or preceding a goverment change.
Let's take rome for example, since you decided to use it. When did the biggest moments of mob justice happened? During Sula, Caesar and Augustus, both when there were dictators dismantling the republic to put themselfs in power, so how it's the democracy fault that of something that happened when itwas being destroyed? By that conclusion, whe can blame every type of goverment by what happened the moment it fell apart.
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>>4779757
Nah, the Roman Republic failed because the patricians were horribly corrupt, hedonist and decadent. They were greedy - more and more, they took land, money and property from the peasants. Remember fuckwits like Crassus? Yeah, that shit was O.K for a Patrician.
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>>4778318
>>Calm yourself and then when you've found the heart of the celebration, announce that the entire populace can decide their king and you will abdicate to whoever is elected.
>>Very sternly proclaim you are no lord and are certainly no king. Just a farmer and hunter blessed with inborn wisdom! Try and stop this misunderstanding before it gets out of hand
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>>4780645
+1
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>>4779004
Advert that Lieran is asked to do?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqtUNidQ2zc
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>>4778322
>Gather your follower and allies, and after finding out which of them if any started this nonsense, order them to hold a vote to decide the new king amongst themselves
>Calm yourself and then when you've found the heart of the celebration, announce that the entire populace can decide their king and you will abdicate to whoever is elected.
>Write in: Tell them that your allies will now gather to select a temporary leader, and once the population is sober and educated (in a few years), they will be able to select a ruler by vote.

Basically, we select one of our companions (totally not Jinhai) as a temporary leader of Yan, and once we conquer shangrala, we uplift the fuck out of everyone to ultramar lvls, then they can vote.
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>>4780915
>Emperor and primarchs: [look at Lieren with concern]
>Lieren: I required funds for Shangrala's uplifting...
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Alright, calling the vote now. Sorry for the late update

Calm yourself and then when you've found the heart of the celebration, announce that the entire populace can decide their king and you will abdicate to whoever is elected:9

Gather your follower and allies, and after finding out which of them if any started this nonsense, order them to hold a vote to decide the new king amongst themselves:6

Very sternly proclaim you are no lord and are certainly no king. Just a farmer and hunter blessed with inborn wisdom! Try and stop this misunderstanding before it gets out of hand.: 9

Find the council and your companions , and discuss with them about setting up a system where the monarch withholds part of their powers to an wing of trained bureaucrats and house of elected representatives.:1

Furiously begin to denounce the mere existence of a monarchy! Reminding the people of what resulted of the last dynasty spawned by a great hero!:3

calm yourself and let s go to our inner council. We can talk about it with them in detail. Beside we have more than one idea for how the government should be made. Giving a council to the figure of the king, and perhaps some representatives from other classes beside the nobility could be an idea: 1

tell them that your allies will now gather to select a temporary leader, and once the population is sober and educated (in a few years), they will be able to select a ruler by vote.:1

Gather your allies and get to the bottom of this.:1

Total votes: 21

So Lieren will calm himself and find the heart of the city wide celebration, and proclaims that he is no lord and certainly no king, but merely a farmer and hunter blessed with inborn wisdom in an attempt to stop this grand misunderstanding.

He shall also announce that the entire populace can decide their king and he will abdicate to whoever is decide.

Writing now

Sorry again for the delay.

>>4780915
>>4780993
As always, I like to imagine Dante as fulgrim in this scenario
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After all, the last thing the people need is to have their savior suddenly become a wild eyed madman shouting and denouncing himself as the "rightful" ruler of the kingdom in the middle of a city wide celebration in his honor. The populace is in desperate need of soothing, and this impromptu festival is a harmless way to ease their paranoia and lingering doubts and fears. A giant who tore down the previous monarchy raging in the middle of it, throwing a childish tantrum against the cruel twist of fate that has beset him, shall merely undo the work of the capital's leaders and your own dear followers.

Besides, you are not one to indulge in such petty vanities as so openly complaining about the troubles of your life or misfortune. It would be rather self indulgent to grieve for yourself while so many have and still suffer because of the tyrants you have so recently dethroned. Though restraining yourself does not purge the emotions roiling within you, disbelief, dread, anger, irritation. But, even the wildest feelings struggle to escape your heart. The situation is still delicate, self control must be maintained and held by a hand of steel.

Stress can be dealt with, and now safely ignored. The suffering you feel at the moment because this most inauspicious and upsetting surprise is irrelevant. As is this the fact you have slept for eight entire days. Both are rather unsettling revelations, but you are looked to as a stalwart, implacable force of virtue, wisdom and benevolence. This image as a stoic and heroic figure, cannot break because of such a small thing as the irritation and panic you are experienced because of these unfortunate truths.

So, you steady yourself, and calm your raging mind, silencing all dissenting thoughts and wayward feelings. A man as respected as yourself, cannot act like an impudent youth, especially not while surrounded by the public.

Smiling, you thank the drunkard who informed you briefly of the happenings of the prior week, and genially ask him where the celebration is centered within the capital city. It takes a few moments of the balding man rambling about wanting to introduce you to his wife and friends, and asking if you could "Bless" his newborn child, before he realizes the renowned "Hero of freedom" has asked him for personal assistance.

At which point he tries to prostrate himself before you, but you catch the intoxicated fool before he debases himself in front of the gathering crowd of awe celebrants and festival goers. Resisting the impulse to sigh, brought upon by once again realizing the exact nature of the current situation and the station that all of the city believes you to now hold. It pains you to see the reverence their eyes hold for you, not as a fellow man, but as a divinely appointed monarch and celebrated existence. Hopefully, it is not too late to avert the consequences of this misunderstanding.
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>>4781592

However if it is indeed too late to prevent your coronation, you could perhaps delay it and allow yourself a reprieve however brief to allow yourself to conceive a plot to instead place the crown upon another, more suitable, brow. Or perhaps replace the system of a dynastic monarchy entirely. Though that would be a far more trying endeavor to accomplish.

Deafened by praises, and weighed down and slowed by the clinging, desperate grasps of youthful maidens, you attempt to part the ever flowing and expanding mob that has surrounded you. Thankfully, even the most intoxicated among the misguided fawners that surround you are mindful of the numerous orphaned and scared children, seeking you out as a bastion of protection and hope. The children native to the capital, merely trail behind their parents, clinging to the sleeves and hems of their robes.

Somehow, you feel more pressured now than you have in any battle you have fought, besides those waged against the evil beneath the mountains and the evil within the palace. You must act decisively, less you be made to shoulder the vast and dreadful responsibilities of royalty. There is much work left to be done, there can be no allowance for such distractions
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Somehow, you manage to reach the epicenter of the city wide celebration of your royal ascension without being too greatly delayed. Though you did encounter a few bawdy and shameless women who attempted to seduce you openly and unabashedly in the middle of the street. Thankfully the two chieftains who seek to win your hand were not among them, perhaps because the Vishnu do not feel welcome or perhaps the fact that the Yan's concept of a celebration is a entirely different affair to those held by the Vishnu. After all, their culture considers such events dull affairs unless they are allowed to duel and brawl without reason, at least according to your observations and study of them.

Flowers have been lain upon your head, woven into your iron hair by children and grateful mothers, daughters and sisters. Two bright golden streaks of paint have been smeared beneath your golden eyes. And by the hand of a incredibly bold jeweler, two chains of gold hang upon your neck, with numerous shades of jade set along their lengths, the largest being a depiction of what the artisan must have imagined to be the sigil of your "family". An Open book. It is all excessively gaudy and cumbersome, but you have not been able to find the man who gifted you the accessories to return them to his possession.

And somehow, you've found yourself holding a chalice carved from white jade and overflowing with Dragon's spit, the bitter liquor burning against your healing wounds as you hold it idly. The prevalence of the bitter drink, makes you ponder exactly how much of it the various regiments of your army had hoarded from the thimble full allotted by their weekly rations.
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>>4781597

You meditate on such mundane worries, to ease the worries afflicting your mind as you are lead to the center of a well constructed stage in the center of a wealthy commerce district.

Judging by how tightly packed the crowed gathered before it, most of the city as heard of your waking and has gathered here to be given the "privledge" of witnessing the coming of the benevolent "usurper" and wise "king" Lieren with their own eyes. Some no doubt, wish to be assured that the truth spoken by your followers and army is indeed accurate or to be relieved of the lingering fears inflicted upon them by the tyrants who spread such hateful libel and propaganda against you and your allies.

You have never seen so many people gathered together. A legion of golden eyed masks stare back at you from with the crowd. The scent of anticipation hangs heavily upon the air, tinged with sweat, floral and herbal perfumes, oil fried meats and pastries, stinging and alluring spices, and the sweet aroma of overripened peaches and tangerines.

The temperature is raised by the sheer volume and number of living beings pressed together. And it was already a particularly hot summer day. Lanterns are lit, and held aloft so all may see past the fog that shrouds the world and look upon you.

Standing there, covered in flowers and finery, you fold your arms across your chest before stowing each of your bandaged hands away into the sleeves of your plain white robe. Wearing an emotionless expression, you step to the edge of the theater's platform and close your golden eyes.

It is then you finally allow yourself to show your disappointment and annoyance with a prolonged sigh. Silence reigns over the masses that stand before you. None are certain what to expect or how to react to the simple gesture. Raising your head you open your eyes, squinting them as you sigh a second time, unable to contain your exasperation again so easily.

A singular drop of rain would have sounded like the ringing of a gong, or cannon fire now. Lowering your gaze to the expecting, nerve wracked populace, you managed to keep yourself from reflexively sighing a third time and take a long, ponderous breath. Your composure shall not falter again.

Adopting the tone and manner of a general scolding his troops or a lecturer reprimanding his distracted audience, You begin your proclamation, which shall hopefully be both the first and last you'll make as a "king"

"I have awoken to a rather disquieting present, brought upon by decisions of others and occurrences I had no hand in bringing about" You explain sternly speaking formally and stoically as you squint your eyes and furrow your brow to show your displeasure clearly and openly without foregoing proper etiquette "And because of this, it would seem that a rather grievous misunderstanding has not only propagated within the minds of the populace, but flourished within their hearts turning the weeds of rumor into the blossoming flower of apparent truth"
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>>4781599

The silence becomes tangible upon the air, thickening the atmosphere like rice flour in a broth. The crowd stares, unmoving as statues in a garden.

"While I rested and dreamed, another declared me king and attempted to usher in the birth of a new dynasty in my steed, and all but placed the crown upon my brow and dressed me in the royal regalia freshly peeled from the rotting corpse of Yan Weizha" You continue on, tilting your head back to stare to the heavens so you do not accidentally glare at your audience and send those closest to you into hysterics and blind panic "When I, Humble Lieren who has come from nothing to spread prosperity and cultivate benevolence, am undeserving of such a prestigious office and vaunted duty. I am blessed with the ability to discern the contents of a man's hearts with but a glance, but I understand that few are gifted with such a talent so I must describe myself and the essence of my being personally to do away with this, rather silly, misconception that I am not only worthy of such a title but that I have already ascended such a high station"

Countless wide, white eyes look back at you as you glance to witness the reaction of the crowd.

"Look upon me, and understand. I am no king, my blood is not royal. Look upon me, and understand. I am no lord" You explain gently, a warm smile gracing your features "My blood is not noble. Look upon me, and understand all I am is a farmer and hunter who could not stand idle while his fellow man suffered. That is all I am, truly. A man of the fields and wilds, blessed with inborn and uncanny wisdom. There is nothing deserving reverence within my being. I am just an unusually gifted man, nothing more, nothing less. All of you gathered before me are equal to myself, as are all forms of life!"

And then the cheers begin. As you expected them to do. Such pleading would only appear as a show of humility and gentle benevolence. The words of a wise, good king. As all who call themselves kings should hold themselves. Like a figure from a fanciful play, but it is the truth. And after generations of tyranny and oppression, such a king would be exactly what the people desire. But it cannot be you, it simply cannot be. Such a title, such veneration is ill fitting for a man of your nature.

All you want to do is tend to the fields so the people will not go hungry, and build roads so they shall not remain desperate. Frowning and bowing your head, you clench your jaw to ward away the possibility of a groan escaping your lips. Doubtlessly, if you fail in your attempt to avert your ascension to royalty, this speech will be remembered and quoted as evidence of your boundless wisdom and benevolence, and be praised by any predecessors who take the mantle of king in your wake.
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>>4781601

But it cannot be so!. So you resign yourself to instead give create a delay so you may devise some method of preventing that outcome and instead crown another in your place, or perhaps usher in a new form of government yet unseen upon Shangrala. For if there is any man who can plot a way to keep himself from being named king, it shall be you!

"I expected such a response, however, I refuse to be crowned by the word of a single man. I refuse the path walked by the kingdom as a whole to be decided by a single action!" You proclaim, your thundering voice quieting the praises and cheers "The people, as a whole, should decide the course the nation should take. One man should not hold such power and influence! Yet the people name their king! And whoever is declared the head of a new, more virtuous dynasty, shall be named king in my stead. I shall abdicate to them, and loyally serve them as any other subject for as long as they remain benevolent"

Falling silent, it takes the crowd several moments to process your words. But then they begin lauding your with praises and compliments, many of them openly crying or faking that they are. Of course, it is almost certain that if every inhabitant of the kingdom's vote is counted, you will still be crowned if only because most of the populace will not understand the concept of choosing their own leader or simply because they fear or admire you based upon the tales and myths that are told of you.

But that is acceptable. There is time now to conceive a tactic to prevent yourself from being crowned as king. And time to properly begin the work to restore the kingdom and better its entirety.

What shall you do now, Lieren?
>Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.
>Mingle for awhile with both the nobility and common folk. You enjoy simple, joyful celebrations like this after all, and such respite would be welcomed.
>Find out who declared you king and harshly scold them.
>Meditate upon the deeper meaning of your dream and the feelings it inspired, now.
>write in

Sorry again for the wait.
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>>4781468
Lieran: *Breaks Fulgrims serpent sword*
Also Lieran: *Throws a copy of 'The Journey' at Fulgrims head along with his Gundao* Fuck you Fulgrim *Cracks open a can of Primarch Energy*

So TTS Lieran?
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>>4781603
>Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.
>Meditate upon the deeper meaning of your dream and the feelings it inspired, now.
If we decide to keep a monarchy, we can't be the king, since there will be no dynasty to speak off.
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>>4781638
Unless my plan for the psychic child goes through actually, so it can be a Dalai Lama situation, with him recognizim Ghuonzi and Ghuonzi recognizing him.
Or not and just keep his descents on power or something.
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>>4781603
>Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.

>write I'm
We already have a form of government established, let them rule the city as well as serve the new emperor (jinhai) and his lady (daiyu)
All we need is to show our support for them to take rulership and others should fall in line easily...I hope


Point is that lieren absolutely cannot be fucking king, do you know just how much PROSPERITY we would have to give up on if we became king!?
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>>4781603
>Meditate on the deeper meanings of our dream
>meet with the inner circle
>Find out who declared us king and scold them

What utter buffoons did this, for fuck sake. But it amuses me just how much Lieren hates this situation and is bending his trickster tricks to getting out of there.
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>>4781703
And come ooooooooooooon Daiyu, Say you have the old fox in custody, come on, please, I really really hope you didn't waste this fantastic asset.
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>>4781685
As much I would love to support you, just putting them on power now would just mean going back on the speech and promise we just gave.
>>4781703
We can still use tricks to escape we being elected too.
Since you can't abidicate for yourself, all the votes for us become null, and therefore it's the runner-up that gets the crown.
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>>4781638
You know what, I'm adding support for
>Find out who declared you king and harshly scold them.
too. They fucking deserve, even if it was all of our friends that did it.
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>>4781710
Oh you cheeky devil.
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>>4781710
>>4781717
On second thought, we could just make voting for us an impossibility. If we use ballots, which I don't think we should, then we could just not put our name on the papers.

If we have group voting stations, walk up and say your vote, then we could probably make a propaganda campaign extolling the virtues of of Jinhai, Daiyu, hell why not a scion of the house of Lai or Yin
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>>4781603
>>Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.
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>>4781732
Yeah, I was thinking of campaigning for our lovebirds while we do the list, since we are going to have to travel to all of Yan to do it all, especially the whole finishing the road bit.
Would be good to give a heads up to our followers that we really don't want to rule, so they can help spread the message in the places the road already touches.
After we spend 3 hours scolding them, of course.
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And thevreason I'm shilling for Jinhai so hard, is that I really think he would be the best fit. He has show extreme flexibility, an ability to observe and comprehend his surrondings, willingness to think outside the box, and his common origins might make him popular with the common folk, and if he marries Gao, that could appease the nobility too, therefore serving as bridge in this period of transition.

Whoever made our symbol be an open book is a faggot though, I refuse to be chinese Lorgar.
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>>4781779
Agreed, our symbol is a panther!

We're a philosopher and leader of rebellion only on a part-time basis, our true identity is a hunter/farmboy.
WE ARE NOT A RELIGIOUS NEEEEEEERRRRDDD like that greatest of fags lorgar, a book is a terrible symbol for us
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>>4781603
>>Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.
>>Meditate upon the deeper meaning of your dream and the feelings it inspired, now.
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>>4781603
>Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.

Daiyu empress
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>>4781603
>Meet with your inner circle, hear the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.
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I think I know where our boys got all that dragon spit.
>Lieren dictated only a thimble of Dragon's Spit a week
>thimbles are made to fit the fingers of the hand
>Who had the biggest fingers in Lieren's army?
>Small Chen of course
>thus, a thimble could be argued to be about the same size as a shot glass
Chen's legacy lives on in our weapons, armor, and the day-drinking of our forces.
Emperor's blessing on that man's soul.
I hope his soul didn't get eaten by demons or something.
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>>4781603
>>Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.
>Find out who declared you king and harshly scold them.
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>>4781603
>>Find out who declared you king and harshly scold them.
>>Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.
>>Meditate upon the deeper meaning of your dream and the feelings it inspired, now.
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>>4781603
>Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.
Come on guys, there's no point in trying to scold whoever crowned us. It was going to hapen sooner or later.
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>>4781603
>>Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.
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>>4781603
>>Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done

i am not sure how the scolding could be received, even if Lieren is justful it might scare them away too much. Somehow the scolding needs to adress this.
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>>4781972
A classic ""Soldiers thimble"
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>>4781972
He probably was the one that ate the daemon.
He was a big boy after all.
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>>4781603
>Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.
>Meditate upon the deeper meaning of your dream and the feelings it inspired, now.
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>>4781603
>Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.
>Meditate upon the deeper meaning of your dream and the feelings it inspired, now.
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>>4782007
+1
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>>4781603
>Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.
>Meditate upon the deeper meaning of your dream and the feelings it inspired, now.
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>>4781603
>Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.
The way I see it, the position of a king/queen has a lot of responsibilities and can bring a lot of anxiety to it's holder if he's not a Primarch. While we could leave someone in charge of the kingdom on paper while Lieren has the true authority, maybe we should establish a council of lords with equal power to govern the nation and Lieren has special authority to veto their decisions so essentially he is the ruler when he needs to be. Or he could be the advisor to the ruler/rulers like someone said earlier.
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Alright calling the vote now

Meet with your inner circle, here the report of the final battle of war, declare it ended, and discuss what must be done.:17

Meditate upon the deeper meaning of your dream and the feelings it inspired, now.: 7

Find out who declared you king and harshly scold them.:5

Support Jinhai/ Daiyu:1

Total votes: 17

So Lieren shall meet with his inner circle, hear the report of the finale battle of the war and declare it finished, before discussing what must be done.

Writing now

>>4781972
>>4782056
>>4782216
kek

>>4781779
>>4781820
"Hey what does the giant king like and that's easy to carve in short notice? I KNOW A BOOK"

was the jeweler's thought process
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And the work shall begin with the assistance of your inner circle, your advisors. Without the council of trusted and beloved friends you would have never reached the heights you have, nor accomplished all of the great deeds that have served as markers upon the road of your life. If they had never decided of their own free will to follow your example and risk losing their own lives in the name of spreading prosperity and nurturing virtue, the selfless task of freeing the lands of oppression and cruel misrule would have never been succeeded in your life time or any other.

By their guidance and wisdom, your dream has been nearly achieved, at least partly. For even if the former kingdom of Yan has been tamed and is ready to be uplifted and improved by benevolent and wise rule, there are still other lands that shall suffer the agony of being lead by sadistic tyrants and apathetic fools. However, that is endeavor to be undertaken in the future. After all the most austere of duties yet remains to be done.

Repairing the kingdom and mending the wounds of war, ensuring that all regions of the kingdom are bountiful, that no man, woman nor child goes to bed hungry, nor fearing what lurks beneath the fog shrouded nights. As the lands of Gao were uplifted and made plentiful and prosperous, as the lands of Dai and Mao were steadily being raised to meet the precedent set by the improvements of your homeland, so two shall the lands that have yet to be graced by your passage be bettered. Huang, Luo, Xia, Kang, Yin, and Yan, lands starved and wealthy only in ash and spilt blood, shall be made as fields of jace. Before men bequeathed you the near dozen titles that now proceed the name you had given yourself, you were simply known as the man who made jade nothing.

And at last, you shall once again preform the "miracle" that led you to the court of Gao Liwei to begin with. Your passion and true area of expertise, creation and cultivation, fueled by all of the wealth and resources of the land. And with the aid of your closest friends, advisors, allies, followers and self proclaimed servants, you would ensure not a single coin would be wasted or ill spent for the undertaking of such a Momentous responsibility.

But first, you had to find your allies. It was doubtful that such dutiful officials, generals, scholars, craftsmen and warriors would wile away their worries by partaking in the festival itself, while you lay asleep and torpid for so long. Rather, it can be expected that the leadership of your revolt would instead tirelessly work and prepare for you awakening, and were presently attempting to anticipate what commands and mandates would be ordered of them to fulfill and how you would react to the mock coronation.

All that must be done is to find where in the capital they have chosen to meet, and then you can return to your favored and preferred duty as a simple administrator.
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>>4783807

A position which does not force a man to, at a seemingly daily basis to sully his hands with blood and the very essence of corruption incarnate!. As soon as the flowers that are so devilishly intertwined and woven into the Iron locks of your hair are removed. While ones appearance has always been a secondary concern from your perspective, you do not wish to embarrass yourself by appearing as a fool. By the courts, with so many flowers stuck to your massive frame, you must appear as an overgrown statue more than a living man!

After you clean yourself, and free yourself from the numerous gifts handed to you in your trek to the center of the city wide celebration, you begin the troublesome task of figuring out exactly where within the city the leaders of both your army and the capital itself are meeting.

The streets are like a living mire of flesh, dancers, acrobats, musicians, actors and tradesmen diverting the steady flow of the populace. Thousands upon thousands of men, women and children clamor around you, those who understand at least the concept of an election already promising to vote for you to become king a second time. It would also not seem that they do not realize the paradox of one abdicating to yourself, however you had expected the majority to be content in just allowing you to "remain" as king, rather than worry about the credentials of other aspiring candidates or even bothering to know who else would be a suitable king besides the golden eyed, iron haired giant walking amongst them.

It would be tiresome, to be drowned in such praise and mobbed constantly in your search for the meeting place of your various allies, however, the relief and joy that is clear upon the faces of those who must be kept from fawning over your or falling to their knees in awe alleviates the feeling of exhaustion that would otherwise be afflicted upon you by such excessive and needless worshipping.

Walking upon rivers of colorful petals, denying constantly offered gifts of the highest form of extravagance and quality, you slowly make progress by seeking out the few officials that escaped the purge of eight nights before. These men, lead you ever closer to find the exact building that houses your inner circle.

And gradually, after meeting with several officials and navigating your way beneath and through the still lively festival, you manage to find the location you have been searching for. A humble inn nestled near one of the six gates you had broken upon your arrival to the capital city. Whoever had chosen this location had done so wisely, to the extent you'd be half convinced if they claimed to posses the power of precognition, for the outskirts of the city were free of the chaotic merriment that had so completely consumed the vast majority of its streets and quarter.
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>>4783810

Gone were the aromas of fragrant spices and herbs stewing with meat boiling in rich oils and the lard of swines, gone were the bundles of exotic and rare flowers, gone were the stalls of merchants hawking their wares, gone were the regiments of dancers and other performers. No music broke the silence of the empty and drab streets that surrounded the little inn, nor were its walls painted garishly or adorned with depictions of yourself as some king of conquering god king.

No. It was only a lonely inn, constructed of lumber older than the streets that were paved around it, repaired with mortar and stone taken from any source the owners could afford. It was lopsided, and poorly made, but it held a certain charm compared to the overwhelming intricacies and colors that had come to cover most of the rest of the capital's building.

It was called the "Reliable Coolie Inn" and the stench of horses, free roaming livestock, hay and wet grain surrounded it. A scent very similar to that of nothing.

Smiling, you approach the off center door barely hanging in place upon its hinges and squeeze yourself through its frame.

And no sooner that you do, do you see nearly knock Lai Song over. He is dressed in casual riding attire, in the colors of his house, reinforced with a covering of panther hide leather. The master of cavalry's eyes nearly eclipse the moon in size as he sees you, and the wounds you bear still.

"My sincerest apologies and earnest greetings, Lai Song, it would appear I overslept and was unable to greet you and the others upon your arrival to the capital, forgive me for this slight, my dear friend" You say in jest, smiling broadly as he catches himself upon a wooden beam covered in scratches and burn markings.

"Lieren! courts above!" the older man says joyously, returning your smile as he pats a hand on your chest to be certain that you are indeed real and standing before him "You still surprise me with your talent at appearing from nowhere"

"Well, I do come from Nothing" You chuckle as the man quickly brushes his hand across his face, grooming his hanging mustache as he tries to come to terms with the fact you are standing before him in the flesh once again "I am interrupting you in something?"

"Nothing besides my decision to take your glorious steed and Yin Aiguo's mare out for some exercise" The man says, his merry words accompanied by a snorting laugh.

He takes notice of your surprise, as you had not informed anyone of the fact that you had managed to capture the magnificent creature that carried Huli Jing's puppet to battle.

"Your brothers of the panthers are hunters without equal, they tracked and found the route you took and the army followed it" He says in reply, patting you again but now on the shoulder "But by the courts Lieren! you look as thought you've journeyed through hell itself! I can scarcely believe a man of your capability was wounded by the servants of a man as low as Weizha!"
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>>4783813

"I did travel through hell to accomplish my goals in this city, and saw sights that would make a hell made material and actual seem like a comfortable paradise" You reply dully, as worry briefly flashes across your friend's chestnut brown eyes

"If you would name something as hell with such sincerity, I would count myself fortunate to not have been made to ride alongside you through it" He half jokes, crossing his arms after he pulls his hand off your shoulder.

"Have you grown soft and lazy while I've been away?" You tease, eliciting a laugh

"By the courts above and hells beneath, no, but even my burning blood can be cooled with fright" He laughs before glancing towards your eyes "but I suspect you do not wish to gossip "pointlessly" now"

"You would be correct, Lai Song, besides meeting with you, my dearest friends, I wish to hear of the final battle of the war and any mishaps upon the road to reach the capital, before we continue our work together" You say, brushing a stray lock of hair away from your eyes as Lai song sighs.

"I had a cask of dragon spit saved from one of the early productions, I had hoped to share it between us when you awoke, but I see it will have to wake" The general sighs, turning his back to you as you step deeper into the inn.

A young woman with a freckled, long face stares at you and nearly drops the glass she was cleaning, her rusty brown hair tied neatly behind her head in a very boyish style.

"T..th..the" She begins

"Lieren" You answer, having grown tired of being referred to as king or simply Giant. Smiling warmly, the girl's face flushes red and she turns away.

"It is a shame you seem intent to remain chaste my friend" Lai song jokes, clicking his tongue as the flustered girl scurries away "The maidens of all the realm pine for a husband as handsome and capable as you, while all the young men scorn your passing"

You wonder if he would say the same if he knew you were not even nine years old, presently. It would certainly be interesting to see what his reaction would be to such a revelation.

"I am unconcerned with temptations of the flesh or heart" You instead answer dully "Especially when there are far more pressing matters to see to, may I ask where the rest of the leadership and inner circle are?"

"Either sleeping or busying themselves in someway or another, I will send messengers to gather them. But don't feel insulted, none of us would celebrate before you woke from your seemingly endless slumber" Lai song says, shaking his head at your reply "Though a few of the Vishnu became rowdy and sought to wake you themselves"

"Akanksha and Kamikashi?" You ask bluntly, narrowing your eyes with mixed annoyance and amusement "

"If those are the names of the two women, and Aruna, the one with the skull painted over his face. Apparently he was terrified that you had caught some form of sickness and would be denied a glorious end because of it" Lai song chuckles
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>>4783815

"I may know only a few words of their tongue, but they're quite the company to keep"

And so Lai Song vanishes up the stairs leading to the inns second story. You do not follow, as you are certain your weight would collapse the already flimsy structure.

Sitting down at a table large enough to accommodate you, the crook backed inn keeper hobbles to your side.

"Is there anything I can fetch for you, most benevolent lord Lieren?" He asks, wiping his gnarled hands with a grime covered hand towel "Perhaps a fine vintage of plum brandy from the southern regions? or a tea from my father's plantation...You know my daughter has been looking for a husband"

You nod, mentally marking down that that is the eleventh hundredth and eleventh offer of marriage you have been given since you woke from your slumber.

"Tea will be fine, charcoal roasted if you have it, if not, a young spring picked green, if they haven't gone stale yet" You answer simply "And I will ask to be served with the variety you and your family drink daily, rather than anything extravagant"

"As you command, lord Lieren" The man says baring a toothy grin, missing several of his teeth.

And now all that remains to be done, is to wait for your peers to be gathered.
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Sipping your tea, you once more read over the written reports handed over to you by every general given command in the final battle of the war. Daiyu, Jinhai, Yin Lei, Lai song and Dai Niu all presented their accounts in turn. Each of their reports reads differently, by prose or style, however they all tell the same story.

Complete and utter victory. Though you have noticed discrepancies and oddities concerning the events of the battle. Namely the fact that, unusually, Yan Zihao lead with the elite of his forces and in fact headed their charge alongside Yin Huizong, rather than the his usual, methodical method of testing his foes with repeated and sustained assaults of his levies. Which, according to the reports of Yin Lei, Dai Niu, and Lai Song, is out of character for the old fox.

Daiyu and Jinhai who had never before met the man, did not notice this bizarre behavior. It is difficult to believe that a man as skilled in the art of war and knowledgeable in its tactics as Yan Zihao would make such a grievous error, when it is his habit to approach every conflict cautiously until he has devised a winning strategy.

Judging by Yin Lei's report, a detail missed by Lai song and Dai Niu, but noted in Jinhai's oddly enough, it seemed as though Yan Zihao had undertaken several foolhardy decisions and performed brazen and repeated charges against the most reinforced and veteran lines of your army.

Charing to meet the lord of cavalry himself after riding directly through an artillery barrage, skirmishing with the Vishnu personally, leading an assault upon the line of Dai Soldiers, calling out and alerting the brothers of panthers and other specialist forces, among other seemingly suicidality over confident actions.
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>>4783819

You would have to question the man himself, as he himself had recently been roused from the state of unconsciousness that had befallen him after a stray bullet impacted what remained of his helmet. It is truly impressive a man of such advance age could survive battling against nearly every element of the most advance and trained army upon Shangrala. The only thing he didn't fight against were the canons and gatling guns themselves

Its almost as if he wanted to die.

Setting down the last scroll again, you set the rough, clay hewn tea cup down to the unsteady table, and take a breath.

Before rising to your feet, and with an adoring smile bellowing a single word

"Magnificent!"

The sudden shout startles your gathered officers and officials, who had been observing you closely as you studied their reports. Cao Yanru falls from his chair as Liu Gen flinches, Gold tooth Wei yelps in surprise, and Cao Yanyu covers her ears. Those more accustomed to your company, merely right themselves, never allowing their composure to falter.

"All of you deserve high esteem and recognition for such a magnificent victory!" You proclaim, clapping your hands together so hardly it sends a current of air through the cramped room "I could not have asked for a better, more praise worthy performance. Commendations are in order, every one of you should feel pride for the part they played in achieving the final victory of this near year long conflict. I cannot properly express my admiration and joy, to not only hear of such a glorious victory, but to be given the privledge of meeting all of you again in the same life"

"I'll raise a toast to those kind words, Brother Lieren" Jinhai says, blushing as he raises his glass. A gesture that is soon mimicked by every other person seated at the table.

Sitting down yourself, you raise your own cup in a toast as well. And stop smiling

"With that said, we can move on to the work that must yet be done" You say seriously, draining what remains of your tea before setting the cup back to the table "For the war has been one and now we must look towards the future, and begin efforts to rebuild and better the lands scarred by this conflict"

How will you begin the restoration efforts, Lieren?
>Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty
>Reaching out to the regions still outside of your control, and making good on the promises contained within the missives you've sent them
>Personally focusing on expanding the Giant's road and the numerous benefits that it entails, spreading your knowledge and innovations to all!
>By encouraging and beginning a cultural renaissance, where genius talents and skilled intellects encouraged and cultivated, beginning with the establishment of proper schools and educations
>Write in?
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>>4783822
>Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty
We're working our way from the very bottom, all the way up to the top. Once we have ensured that people will no longer starve and can afford basic comforts, we can move on from there to improve the education system, or lack there of.
Regarding the organization we wish to start, I think some of the hardcore laborers we've been working on in the past nine years, in addition to some of the folks in the city might be up to the challenge. We'll establish a chinese Red Cross.
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>>4783822
>dismantle yans influence
>Reaching out to regions not yet in our control
>Exapnd the road
>Meditate on our dreams when we have the free time.


Ayyyyy, Old fox lived!
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>>4783890
Anyway, the three options are the required steps to make a truly prosperous Yan.

We need to feed the hungry to keep them alive, then gain the loyalty of the ruling houses as well as prune them for one reason or another.
Once that is done, the spread of innovation is going to much safer and not going to be as hordes. That being said, I iffy on if we should disseminate our designs for a gun.
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>>4783822
How will you begin the restoration efforts, Lieren?
>Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty
>Reaching out to the regions still outside of your control, and making good on the promises contained within the missives you've sent them
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>>4783822
>Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty
>Personally focusing on expanding the Giant's road and the numerous benefits that it entails, spreading your knowledge and innovations to all!
The palace has to go, it's just a question of time until looters start goingnin and getting corrupt artifacts.
And the road is the backbone of our reforms, we have to ensure it reaches all of Yan, from the biggest towns to the smallest villages
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And as much as I think all the options are important, I remember what happened last time when all the options won the vote.
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>>4783822
>Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty
>Reaching out to the regions still outside of your control, and making good on the promises contained within the missives you've sent them
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>>4783822
>>Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty
>>Reaching out to the regions still outside of your control, and making good on the promises contained within the missives you've sent them
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>>4783822
>>Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty
>>Reaching out to the regions still outside of your control, and making good on the promises contained within the missives you've sent them
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>>4783822
>Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty
>Reaching out to the regions still outside of your control, and making good on the promises contained within the missives you've sent them


>Write In
We will nominate ourselves for the moment Administrator General of the Realm, Defender of the Realm and Temporary King (not king), while also officially saying that the kingdom will go in a period of transition. We will not accept other titles used by the previous kings.

Calling us Lord Lieren is acceptable and easier than our full titles, even if we highly prefer just to be called Lieren. Be from a peasant or a Lord. We will make this preference know, as well that we aren t in search of marriage.
With numerous works starting across Yang and peace back, we will call for the Great Diet of the Realm in the capital. Here the leaders and lords of all of the Kingdom will arrive and hear us, for we have a great plan to present (written in a book). If they all accept it and work with us, our dream will become far easier to achieve and they will see what we want and understand far better our cause. Representatives of the different provinces and their settlements will also be present.
(the Great plan is unrelated to what Lieren will do in his free time, be visit his dad or continue writing the Journey. The plan is presented in a series of points. Its burden is divided between Lieren, his allies and followers, and the lords of the realm. It's done during a period of 5 years, starting from now).

https://pastebin.com/XzCeLa0k
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>>4783822
>Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty
>Reaching out to the regions still outside of your control, and making good on the promises contained within the missives you've sent them.
> Stablish your allies as a council of royal administrators that can rule in your stead when you need to go away to attend to matters like Kanzeon an the egg (and then use a few days to travel to nothing at full speed, get the egg and the go to Kanzeon to make sure she is ok and to get a communication device/drone so she can see the world around you and assist you in your tasks with her DAOT colony ship IA levels of administrative bullshit)
Can we study the egg and get that communication device to talk to Kanzeon and get her help? We have been delaying this stuff for more than half the quest's duration, and researching those options will accelerate and improve the result of any other option we pick. Basically, action economy is king and we've been bogged down by plot reasons for years, It's time we do things right.
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>>4783822
>>Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty
>Personally focusing on expanding the Giant's road and the numerous benefits that it entails, spreading your knowledge and innovations to all!
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>>4783822
>Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty
>Reaching out to the regions still outside of your control, and making good on the promises contained within the missives you've sent them
>meditate
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>>4783822
>Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty
>Reaching out to the regions still outside of your control, and making good on the promises contained within the missives you've sent them
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>>4783822
>>Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty
>>Reaching out to the regions still outside of your control, and making good on the promises contained within the missives you've sent them
We’re just starting, once we have the foundation set up we can get into the full renaissance of the land
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>>4784169
>>4784181
+1 to create radio for ship waifu
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>>4783822
Backing this >>4784181
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>>4784181
Support+

We may be eternal but having Kanzeon by our side as we bring prosperity to the world would be ideal.
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>>4784181
I am backing this.
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>>4784181
Supporting this
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>>4784181
This is my vote, both because I think it would behoove us to take the time we now have more of to study the egg, and because I've always been biased towards AI.
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>>4783822
>Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty
>Personally focusing on expanding the Giant's road and the numerous benefits that it entails, spreading your knowledge and innovations to all!
>Retrieve your "Egg" and bring it to Kanzeon, then attempt to create a type of drone able to communicate with her over long distances using the facilities onboard the ship.
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>>4784181
+1
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>>4784181
Backing
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>>4784181
I don t thik is that easy for her to just go and use a drone or communicate. I would prefer if something like helping her isn t rush, it should be approached in a better way especially when the ship is under a mountain and it s quite damaged from what we have seen.
She would have consider any options like that before honestly.

We could properly save her if we worked on the nation first. We would have more than just ourselves. Now there is so much to do.
And for that "delaying" you talked of, we didn t even know she existed for a good part of the quest.


>>4783822
i will change my precedent vote to not have my write in and just this instead

>Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty
>Reaching out to the regions still outside of your control, and making good on the promises contained within the missives you've sent them

>>4784169
my previous vote is here.
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>>4784761
We do need to visit her after our kingdom is secure. We made a promise, after all.
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>>4783894
We should keep the gun designs as best we can, even though we have won here there will be people willing to defect to neighbouring/rival states with the designs as leverage for a good life there.
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>>4784774
I think we have a duty to ensure that first and foremost Yang becomes a great kingdom, and with it we can also help her.
If we can return here back up by the new industry and scholars of the kingdom, it would be better than just some talking and a drone that we don t have any solid proof it can be done. We would start to free her.

There is also another evil spirit to kill here. Which i would prefer we do it with some help and not alone. And with better gear too.
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>>4783822
Voting to visit our ship friend RIGHT AFTER THIS so she knows we succeeded and not dead.
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>Think, Ferrus, THINK! Lieren’s been feeding you his mystical bullshit from day one! You really think there’s no such thing as perfection?! That makes no sense, Ferrus!
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>>4784787
While I agree we have a duty, we also promised her that we would return once the war has been done. It doesn't matter if the visit only achieves talking, because that's good enough to keep her faith in us alive and prove that we do keep to the spirits of our promises when they matter.

And if we don't do it as soon as we reasonably can, and by reasonably I mean without everything falling to shit rather than "oh if we haven't dominated the world or turned the kingdom into a victorian era paradise then we can't stop now", then we will forget about it and break our promise, because there is always another problem that needs our attention.
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>>4784835
in the grimdankness of the far future there is only memes, warhumor 40keks
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>>4784845
And to re-enforce my point I'll support this >>4784798 as well.

Hell, if we focus on the giants road, we can swing by while we are in the area overseeing construction. Or just straight go there.
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>>4784181
+1
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>>4784835
Kek
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>>4784181
+1
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>>4784845
And you just conviced me.
>>4784021
I'm adding visiting the shipfu to my previous vote.
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>>4784181
+1
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>>4783822
this>>4784181
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Calling the vote now

Complete dismantling of lingering Yan influences, starting with the Celestial incarnation palace, and establishing an organization to bring supplies and resources to the regions worst affected by famine and poverty:25

Reaching out to the regions still outside of your control, and making good on the promises contained within the missives you've sent them:21

Personally focusing on expanding the Giant's road and the numerous benefits that it entails, spreading your knowledge and innovations to all!:4

Meditate on your dreams when you have the free time:1

establish your allies as a council of royal administrators that can rule in your stead when you need to go away to attend to matters like Kanzeon an the egg (and then use a few days to travel to nothing at full speed, get the egg and the go to Kanzeon to make sure she is ok and to get a communication device/drone so she can see the world around you and assist you in your tasks): 14

Immediately visit kanzeon: 2

Total votes: 27

So, Lieren shall begin by establishing his allies as a council of royal administrators to rule in his stead, and begin the restoration effort by first dismantling any remaining Yan Influences, starting with the CIP and establishing an organization to bring relief to provinces badly affected by famine and poverty.

And reaching out to the regions still outside of the new goverment's control, making good on the promises he has already made to the ruling families of those regions.

And then, with these edicts in place, Lieren shall travel as quickly as possible to nothing, grab the egg and go check on Kanzeon to keep his promise and see if there's someway to maintain contact with her!

Writing now

>>4784835
I love nolan posting
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Anyone got the "do it for her" pic for Kanzeon?
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>>4785458
We don't exactly have a good form to do it with atm
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"Of course, to oversee this restoration effort, a council of administrators will have to be established and receive the proper sanctions to carry out their duties and fulfill the responsibilities entrusted to them" You explain further, idly pressing a finger upon the jagged lid of the empty tea cup standing before you "Men and women whose words and actions will carry all of the authority of a king, so they will not be delayed in their business or harassed by internal elements or actors within the kingdom. Administrators who can carry out any command given to them as well oversee the various vital projects that shall be simultaneously conducted throughout the kingdom"

"A wise decision" Yin Lei answers tiredly, with heavy bags under his eyes. He has been stirring his cold coffee bean slurry for several minutes now.

"A single man, no matter how great his knowledge or talents, cannot possibly act across the realm. Delegating the various tasks of the reconstruction effort will expedite the coming of true prosperity" He continues on, looking as weary as his lord brother as he speaks to the rest of the gathered advisors "And it is very characteristic of you, Lieren, to trust others with such crucial duties. I do not doubt that this method will be far more efficient than the way the Yan kings' mandates were carried out"

Dai Niu clears his throat, his song Gang sitting beside him observing the proceedings in silence. Stroking his recently groomed mustache, the lord of the turtles glances your way humbly.

"Would I be wrong to assume that these administrators will be recruited from amongst our number?" He asks quietly, not wishing to stand out too greatly considering his grievous loss of face at the dawn of the war for liberation "It would be a logical choice considering how well we have served you in the midst of war, Lord Lieren"

Daiyu mouths the words "of course", as she slouches over the table, her face lacking its usual black highlights and red from sleeping upon rough bedding. Shan plucks charred hairs from his beard, while Cao Yunru attempts to adapt his posture so as to appear as worthy to sit besides such storied characters and venerated figures.

"Your assumption would be correct, Lord Dai. None of you have yet failed me, as advisors or friends. I trust your council and know you would not abuse the powers of such stations, though you would not be the sole holders of these positions" You explain, tracing your finger across the clay cups edge as you speak "As the reconstruction efforts will be both wide spread and extensive, and this council of royal administrators must be numerous to both rule in the leader of this nation's stead, as well as carry out and oversee his mandates and decrees"

Dai Niu nods, glancing towards his eldest son. Dai Gang bows his head, and claps his hands together.
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>>4785545
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"Forgive this humble heirs interruption, but would I be correct in assuming that these administrators would have equal influence and standing to each other, beneath the king?" The heir of the Dai asks curiously and meekly, reflecting the shame that shall follow his family for years if not generations to come.

"You would, as your father, be correct in your assumption. To have one administrator to command any other, would only invite turmoil and strife. They shall be a organization of peers, trusted to rule in place of the king and to serve both him and the kingdom" You explain, smiling genially as Dai gang cups his hands together and nods "The exact titles and specific duties of these administrators will be decided at a later date, but the authority they hold and powers they wield shall be established so none may doubt them"

"So an official sect of regents will be established, to act in your stead" Shan states, nudging Dandan with his shoulder to rouse his student in the art of wild devastation, from her drowsing

Silence falls, as your long time companions bristle at the alchemists breaking of an unspoken taboo, established as soon as this meeting began. Referring to you as king. The manic engineer, pays no heed to the rueful or disappointed glares he receives, and continues jostling Dandan to keep her from falling asleep.

"Until the people decide who shall be their king, yes. It would go against my nature to accept such an appointment without the blessings of a majority of the populace" You say quietly, defusing the tension in the air as you pick up the tea cup between two of your fingers "And I do not intend to be named king unless the kingdom is unified in the decision. Another duty entrusted to this council of administrators will be gathering a tally of the populaces vote for who shall be named king, from a list of candidates. While I would wish to prevent my own ascension to such a position, I find the idea of forcing the decision of so many others to be a vile prospect"

"We will ensure that the tally is accurate and complete, my lord" Lord Lai says solemnly. Nodding, you turn to face the rest of the council.

"I would suggest you all prepare yourself, as you will soon receive the great burden of safeguarding the kingdom and its people, as I have business to attend to, of grave importance " You state, having planned to keep your promise to Kanzeon the moment you left her to languish alone in the dark once again "As my aging father has been abandoned in Nothing since this war began, and as his son, I must see to my filial duties, for if I do not act as a son should I will not be able to look him in the eye"

"Few men who have risen to your position remember to value their filial piety, I commend you for upholding it yourself, Lieren" Yin Lei says, finally taking a sip from his slurry of bean paste and liquid.

"All sons must tend to their fathers" Dai Niu states, nodding in agreement with the statement.
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>>4785550

"One cannot ignore their virtuous nature" Daiyu says warmly, also agreeing.

"I can only hope my sons will be as mindful of me when my beard greys" Cao Yunru chuckles nervously, being the only one among the city's leadership to be confident enough to speak amongst your companions and yet his voice be heard.

"I am grateful for your understanding, and allowance of such selfishness" You say humbly, pressing a hand between your twin hearts "I will return to you with haste, but I must tend to my father and see that he is well. So, I shall entrust to you the responsibility to begin the restoration efforts. It shall start with the dismantling and utter destruction of any lingering Yan presences and influences, the corrupted rule of the past shall be wiped clean from these lands but not forgotten. This will of course start with the destruction of the Celestial Incarnation Palace and"

Taking a deep breath, as you recall the nightmarish acts that were once performed within that damnable refuge for evil's walls.


"And of all its treasures and decorations. An invitation shall also be sent to the individuals of proven virtue who shall be offered a seat upon the council of royal administrators, their names and last known locations have been recorded. The administrators who will remain in the capital will see to this mandate of cleansing. However" You continue on, pressing your hands together as if in prayer.

Lai song looks at you with worried curiosity, having recalled your earlier conversation and connected the it to the decree demanding the complete destruction of the celestial incarnation palace. But he does not raise the question that is so clearly burning within his thoughts.

"They shall also be tasked with the establishment of an organization that shall provide great aid in not only the various endeavors of reconstruction to come, but to all who suffer without cause in the future. An organization of virtuous and benevolent souls, who shall be tasked with" You explain, turning your eyes away from the concerned look of your friend "Bringing relief to provinces and areas within the kingdom badly affected by famine and poverty, in the form of supplies and resources. Medicine, more advance tools, stores of food, raw materials, and the means to produce or construct their own means of maintaining their supply of each"

"How generous, the wealth of the land shall go to those who first earned it" Daiyu says happily, folding her hands upon her lap.

"As it should be" Jinhai and Yin Lei say in near unison

"Cao Yunru" You say motioning to the scholar who sits at your side "Shall be entrusted with the duty of establishing this order of benevolence, and will be allowed the honor of giving it its name"

The man stammers, trying to speak his gratitude of receiving such an honor, but you raise a hand to silence his attempts.
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>>4785551

"There is no need, my friend, I only ask you don't decided upon something foolish for their name" You laugh, before looking over to Lai song, Dai Niu and then Yin Lei "However, the administrators who shall leave the capital, will instead be tasked with fulfilling the promises I have already made to the lords of the lands who have yet to be rejoined with the whole of the kingdom. Huang, Luo, Xue, Kang. Each shall be reached out to, and offered again friendship and unity"

"I believe now would be the proper time to mention, that" Daiyu says, pausing to steel her nerves for a moment "That the families of Yan Zihao and Yin Huizhong have yet to be found, following our victory against the old fox"

You click your tongue

"I am sure the old fox knows where they have been hidden, do not do anything drastic on this matter until I return. I will judge the last general of the Yan myself, and their families as well, should they still remain within the borders of this country" You say solemnly, rolling your shoulders as you move to stand from your seat "The next stage of the restoration shall be decided after the results of this opening stage have been witnessed. I apologize that our reunion has been brief but"

"You must see your family, such a desire is forgivable" Jinhai says to reassure you "There is no crime in wishing to see one's kin"

"Jinhai, my brother, if you meet Xin, Wei or Bai , tell them we shall return Small Chen's body to his family together. He has been gone from home for far too long" You say, turning away from the table, nodding once as you begin to walk away "But now, I must take my leave, and do what I must"

Your council all raise their glasses, and begin to converse amongst themselves, debating who shall be entrusted which task and how they shall be carried out in your absence. Holding your head high, you prepare for the long journey back to Nothing.
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The trip back to the village you had been "born" into, is thankfully peaceful and uneventful, except for a mock duel forced upon you by each of the Vishnu Chiefs besides the pacifistic Om. Akanksha and Kamakshi try to press the issue of their "Courting", but they are distracted by Manu mentioning Yan marriage customs, and that allows Aruna and Rudra to escort you away from both of the obsessed women and allow you to begin your Journey without further harassments.

You take a short detour to check in on your friend Shirong, and the progress of The giant's road continued construction in the lands once held by the Mao. After resisting the urge to immediately meet with your friend buried so deeply in the ground, you rest at Dai castle for half a week, and briefly meet with your students and the last of the tiger people. They have been joined by several new students, who you have not even been introduced to before, acolytes and adherents of all ages and walks of life.
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>>4785552

Imparting your students, new and old, with wisdom and teachings, you tell them the lessons you have learned in your recent travels. In particular you tell them of Luli, and her unwavering faith and unshakeable will, Noble Fa who gave his life to protect and save others from the foul desires of the Yan, and Cao Yunru a meek man who overcame his own nature to do what was required of him.

Avinash and Ananya maintain a stoic, strong façade, explaining to their younger peers and charges why they cannot yet accompany you again on your travels. But when the time comes for you leave them again, the fur on their faces are stained with tears, and they plead to be allowed to remain at your side. With heavy heart, you refuse their request, and ride on to Zhou castle where the war began.

It is staffed by a reserve unit of your army, and they are quite surprised to find you returning to them. It is here where you repair your tattered armor and dulled Chendao, maintain a small part of Small Chen's legacy, before you enter the lands of your birth.

You heart swells to see how greatly the lands once withered beneath the foot of the Gao have flourished and prospered in your absence. Even Dai, whose lands have nearly been completely connected by your road, is yet to become as prosperous and bountiful as you have made the lands of your birth.

It is soothing, to meet fellow travelers upon moonlit roads, unafraid of any beast or brigand. It is pleasing, to see how villages have expanded in but half a years span, how they have grown and improved without your guidance. As you near closer to nothing, you meet Pilgrims, some who you recognize from villages from the Dai province and the former Mao region, who have journeyed far to see for themselves the village that had made the golden eyed savior of the lands.

A handful, you even recognize from your days as a mere administrator. They are surprised you recognize their faces and names, and recall precisely how you saved their lives or simply bettered their lot in them. You spend your nights discussing with them, reading from their copies of the Journey and sharing tales of your travel. You tell them of Small Chen's sacrifice and of the unmatched valor of your companions and soldiers.

Nothing, has grown without you. The sight of your home brings tears to your eyes. Its inhabitants, your people, your family, have been working tirelessly to better their home and they have been aided by the pilgrims who have come to see the place of your birth. Whether they stay for a days, weeks, or intend to spend the rest of their lives at the once forgotten hamlet considered so unimportant it was named Nothing, they work and toil alongside the natives of it. From spring and through summer, been made from a village to the beginnings of a city. A small seed that shall blossom into a center of commerce, civilizations, culture, learning and spiritualism.
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>>4785553

The older children, who once road upon your back, are telling their younger siblings, toddlers and babes, stories off you. Though greatly embellished, hearing them speak of you so fondly fills your heart with a pure, innocent joy.

Cries fill the air as you are noticed by the outermost gate of your home. "Lieren is here!" "Lieren has returned" "He's back! he's back" "His journey has come to an end!' "THE WAR IS OVER!" and other such cheers fill the air, as you lead your nameless stead and his future mate along the street that cuts through the flourishing farms and gardens.

Peach and orange trees are blossoming, the flowers you got for your father before the war began brighten the yards of each family. And, dried blossoms are gathered and tied together. The air is fragrant and delightful. Your entourage breaks away to gape in awe at the village that began the "Golden eye revolution" as they call it, leaving you alone with your old friends and acquaintance, fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters asking of the fates of their relations among the brothers of the panthers.

You of course, tell each of them the victories and glories won by their kin. They cry and wail in joy, relieved to hear that they had all managed to survive the duration of the war and will soon return to them.

As you enter the boundary of Nothing itself, you find the street cleared. Except for a single woman, leading your father to the town center. His eyes are already red with tears, heavy bags hand beneath them. Tears flow down his face like a mountain streams. His legs and hands shake as he grips his walking stick tightly.

Tears begin to drip from your own eyes as you step closer to him.

"My son! My Son! My Son!" He cries out, unable to maintain his composure as the two of you meet after so long apart "You've come back to me! I was so worried, every night I dreamt of the struggles you must have faced and of...and of, I had feared you had died my son! My son!"

He nearly falls to his knees, but you catch him.

"Father, I have never before broken a promise I have spoken to you. I said I would return to your side, did I not" You say, struggling not to lose your composure as you speak to him, vision fogged by tears "I...I beg that you will forgive me for leaving you alone again, I have missed you greatly and have wished to return home since the war began"

"Do not prostrate yourself and plead for forgiveness like some common criminal!" Wenyan shouts, commanding you rise from your knees "You had a greater destiny than to care for a single elderly man, The kingdom itself needed you commit all of your energy and focus to the austere duty of bringing renewed peace and prosperity to its long suffering lands, do not debase yourself and feel guilt for accepting such a momentous responsibility. Hold your head high, Lieren. I forgive you for your absence but know that I have never once thought that you did not love me and this town with such boundless passion"
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>>4785557

"Father!" You sob, unable to restrain the feelings you have long kept locked away in your heart "Father, I can never hope to repay your kindness"

"You do not have to, my son" He says, embracing your shamelessly as he begins to sob himself "I am blessed to have a child as virtuous and kind as you have become, I am blessed to have a son who has brought such benevolence to the world. I am blessed that you still live, Lieren"

You remain in each other's arms for sometime.

In the comfort of your own home, you begin to meditate and ponder the meaning of your eight days long dream, when you are not tending to or entertaining your father. Still, its meaning remains lost to you, and you are still uncertain how to feel because of it. True compression will require more effort, as will coming to terms with the emotion that distant vision had inspired within.

For a week, you remain by his side, telling him of all the stories of your travels. Of the victories one, of the lives lost and saved.

Of Dai Niu's wisdom and sacrifice. Of the friendship you found with the wild Vishnu. Of your victory against the Mao's army, of the taming of the Bone Devouring forest, of the battle against Yin Aiguo, of your ride to the Capital. You tell him of the virtue of your students, and the friends you have made throughout the war. You tell him of Shirong, Cao Yunru, Luli, and all the others. You tell him of Small Chen's death, and Fa's sacrifice. Of a father's love. You tell him of each of the Vishnu Chieftains, you tell him of your regrets. You tell him everything you have experienced since you've left him to wage war.

He listens intently, and as you tell him of the journey back, he understands you intend to leave his side once again. And without speaking, gives you permission to do so.

After a final meal with Wenyan, you leave the longhouse you share with your father. Which has been entirely rebuilt to be made of stone and steel, much to his displeasure. In the dead of the night, you walk down the path that was the first you walked upon Shangrala, and go to the mechanical egg that birthed you.

Wiping the dust from its surface, you lift the long unmoved technological wonder from its resting place, and carry it to the surface.

Beneath the light of the moon, you gaze upon the symbols upon its face, pondering your origins for a moment.

Perhaps Kanzeon would have answers concerning them. Perhaps this mechanical egg would prove to be the key required to unlock the meaning of eight days dream. Who could be certain.

Taking one last look at nothing, you heft the egg into a cart made of steel and cover it in several layers of canvas, waxed cloth, silk and paper.

And then, once again, you step into the fog and vanish away from Nothing.
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The presence of the Unseen master has fled the caverns beneath the Bone Devouring Forest. There is a sense of dread in the air, a lingering remnant of the evil's spirit passing.
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>>4785559

You wonder if the devil witnessed the banishment of its Kin, Huli Jing, who had been fully manifested in the material world, and had chosen to flee to the depths of the realm of spirits rather than pursue its vendetta against yourself.

Doubtful, but stranger things have happened. If the unseen master ever seeks its revenge, it shall be dealt with in the same manner that the beguiler of dynasties was. Without remorse or mercy, it shall be forced from the world of the living and cast back into the abyss of hell.

Kanzeon feels your presence as you near her, and you are nearly brought to your knees as her boundless joy and relief fills your mind. A gleeful energy fills the air, as her unspoken gratitude fills your being.

"Hello, my friend! I have come to fulfill my oath to you!" You shout, as you enter her body of metal, carrying in the machine that spat your forth onto Shangrala.

"So that is the nature of the device you have brought to present to me, then? Some arcane form of a gestation pod, perhaps? I can sense it is powered by the energies of the..." Kanzeon speaks idly, curiously, as you absorb her every word happily, happy to hear her voice in your mind once again.

"The other world" You answer, speaking outloud

"So you have knowledge of the warped realm then? and stop affecting my speech in such a manner" Kanzeon says, a metallic buzzing telling you she is giggling.

"The barest understanding, if evil spirits originate from it" You answer, as the walls break open to lead you to Kanzeon's core

"Do not worry, you are not a denizen of that realm, whoever saw fit to create you merely utilized the same energy, judging from the eg...device's construction, and has put a great deal of effort in ensuring it would be protected from the...negative affects of exposure to such forces" Kanzeon explains "It is, perhaps a relic much like myself, but improved and better"

"Perhaps mankind has healed from the wounds of the long night then" You laugh, as Kanzeon picks up the concern that still lingers within you

"Whoever your cre...father is, Lieren, he must care deeply of your fate, considering the labor that would be required to build such an eg...device" Kanzeon reassures as you near the sanctuary of her heart "He had not set you adrift among the stars without concerning himself of your safety"

"My father awaits me in Nothing, of that I am certain" You answer plainly before softening your heart to Kanzeon "I am glad you are still well, Kanzeon, I worried for you in the final days of the war"

"As I did you, my dearest friend" Kanzeon coos in reply, as you enter the core of her being. The sea of stars is colored peach and green, bolts of slow moving lightning of the same colors fill the air as you walk a path of corded wires and metal into her heart. The field of metallic flowers and flexible glass grasses extend before you, as you walk slowly to meet with your lonely friend face to "face".
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>>4785561

The rune covered walls cascade with colors of green, plum and peach, the strange machines tirelessly working as you walk beneath them. Flashes of light and ghosts of flower petals drift across the mechanical field upon an unfelt breeze.

"Welcome again, Scholar Lieren, to my heart and mind, to the depths of my soul" Kanzeon voice reverberates through the metal beneath your feet, as streams of characters in the written language of Yan and Vishnu pass by your eyes, as distant thunder crashes in the depths of her being.

"It is as beautiful as when I fist gazed upon it, Kanzeon" You say warmly as you spot the network of metal trees, like those in Kanzeon's own memory vault, still fused together above a lake of milky white fluid. Sparks and flashes of electricity lap against your body as you near its shore.

The air becomes thick with crackling energy, yet it is as cool as an autumn day and as soothing. Standing upon the edge of the steaming lake once again, its waters shift to a pale shade of green as the hues of peach and plum fade away from the great field of Kanzeon's heart.

And from the waters, her avatar walks to meet you upon the shore, standing as tall as you do. Still, her from is written from strings of a single phrase. "The one who perceives the sounds of the world" and ethereal steam. The long robe that she dresses herself in, is still compiled from phrases such as "Nurture" "Protect" "Guard" and "Preserve" along side phrases from your own journey. Weavings of lotus blossoms still form the sash that ties her robes and holds it in place,

She is still flawless and beautiful, her wild, untamed hair flows across her back, dancing upon the intangible wind as the colors of her body slowly shift to mimic living flesh. Her eyes burn green, matching the glow of your own golden eyes.

"So you have come, seeking not only knowledge, but rather a means to communicate with me beyond my trapped body. Like we discussed before, through an avatar or simple radio transmission" She speaks, reading your thoughts as she walks to your side and gazes out at the field within her own body.

"I do not need to answer that, I did promise I would free you from your prison, did I not?" You ask, with a smile turning to watch her expression soften and eyes closed.

"Such a gentle man" She chuckles, shaking her head "But, do I really deserve such energy to be spent, such resources wasted"

"I cannot allow one life to suffer allow in silence, I will free you from the darkness of solitude" You say, almost swearing that it began to rain in Kanzeon's heart.

"Then I will not attempt to dissuade you" She says quietly, as the colors of the lake and all other light flushes pink once more "But the answer remains, how will you free me of this "curse", oh noble Lieren?"

You ponder the answer to that question, staring into the shadow cast by Kanzeon's true titanic body
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>>4785561
The massive memory cores that hang over the lake and Kanzeon's shadow, shift orange and yellow, hanging heavily upon the branches of the metal trees that hold them aloft.

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What is your answer, Lieren?
> You will just construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice
>You will funnel resources to Kanzeon, so she may repair herself and construct an Avatar of sorts.
>A complete excavation of the mountain. She will be completely freed.
>Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.
>Write in?

also some fitting music for this reunion: https://youtu.be/9LHwarMbDyY
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>>4785566
> You will just construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice
This will only be the start. Being the fastest choice, she'll be able to stimulate herself intellectually and emotionally through conversation- a necessity she's been missing for millenias. As time progresses, we can focus on,
>Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.
I do not know what the end results might entail, but the potential is enticing. I'd also like to include a write in?
>Write in?
>Confide with Kanzeon about how the incubator and indirectly Lieren is responsible for the death of some of the original families of the people of Nothing, specifically our father's sons and wife.
I dont know if Lieren feels responsible about that unfortunate turn of events, but I dont think hes actually discussed this with anyone yet, I think.
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>>4785566
Write in

Construct a radio that she might commune through, specifically more than one that she might hear from others to.

Ask her if she knows how to build devices to get herself out/excavate if given resources by us. If she does we hand them over
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>>4785609
Why not wait until we've fully secured the kingdom's safety, vastly improve its infrastructure/level of industry, then funnel resources to her? Between now and then we could learn things with her to get schematics for a ship sized shovel to dig her out.
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>>4785566
> You will just construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice
>A complete excavation of the mountain. She will be completely freed.

For now we can t do much, but soon the kingdom will become stronger again. And we will be able to free her.

Offer her our friendship and to join our forces as well.
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>>4785566
>You will funnel resources to Kanzeon, so she may repair herself and construct an Avatar of sorts.
>Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.
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Excavate the mountain which will in time fill becoming an crater like lake, build a beautiful city as we dig down creating a spiral down city carved into the stone itself
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>>4785566
>Construct a radio, It's the easiest choice.
>Study the egg for a clue

And if all else fails
>When the kingdom is prosperous, a complete excavation of the mountain.
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>>4785566
>>A complete excavation of the mountain. She will be completely freed.
I like this one despite how impractical it is.
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>>4785566
>Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.
Once prosperity is achieved then
>A complete excavation of the mountain. She will be completely freed.
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>>4785566
> You will just construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice
>Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.
Both of these things are important. We don't have the necessary manpower to dig out an entire mountain without severely debilitating our other plans. Without modern technology, we'd need an entire province worth of diggers to get her out of there. You know how BIG Warhammer 40k ships are? The whole mountain would have to go down.

Also, can we PLEASE Finally get the Red Banded Staff from her armory? pls? Come on, we were literally birthed from an Egg of Stone. We have the fucking Fiery Golden Eyes. We challenged "The Heavenly Courts". We are literally the Panther King.
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>>4785566
>>A complete excavation of the mountain. She will be completely freed.
We're gonna need to warn the laborers about the Tzeentch Cave. Also
>Ask her if she has any Ruyi Jing Bangs lying around.
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>>4785997
I second this notion.
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>>4785566
> You will just construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice
>Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.
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>>4785566
>A complete excavation of the mountain. She will be completely freed.

We're a Primarch, we don't go for half-measures.
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>>4785997
>You know how BIG Warhammer 40k ships are? The whole mountain would have to go down.
That’s why I like it. It’s over the top and worth it.
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>>4786095
Yes, and it's also something we can't goddamn afford. Do you imagine HOW MANY PEOPLE We'd need to excavate a mountain with motherfucking SHOVELS?

We need those people to ensure we don't end up with an gigantic famine. The war is over, everything's been kaboomed to bullshit. Men have gone away from their plantations to go to war.

We NEED that manpower to work. We NEED them to cultivate food, hunt, to make products to allow other people to live. Fucks sake, we don't even have excavators.
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I found it after a quick trip to archive.
>>4785566
> You will just construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice
>A complete excavation of the mountain. She will be completely freed.
Got to get that flagship. And then find her sisters and have an archeotech squadron.
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>>4786100 raises a good point
Changing >>4786011 to
> You will just construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice
That should also get us the bonus of having the technology to apply elsewhere. Still sticking with asking for the Ruyi Jing Bang though.
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>>4786100
Kanzeon has food production built into her and should be able to offer at least something to help with the excavation itself. She is a colony ship after all.
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>>4786100
I mean, we DO have explosives now, so the work wouldn't be done with just shovels and picks. Besides, Malal wouldn't give us trap options, so surely Lieren wouldn't go about it stupidly.
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>>4786170
It's not a trap option, though. It's pretty clearly stated what you want to do, the consequences that such an action entail are kinda obvious. Powerful as he may be, Lieren can't destroy a mountain all on his own.

And plus, do we *really* want to endanger everyone so quick? Do remember that we still don't know jackshit about stuff like the Men of Iron and what consequences knowledge of Kanzeon could entail.

Explosives are good and all, but they're just not that good at digging dirt, you know what i mean? They're good for rocks, yeah, sure, but unless you're planning on having Dandan waste an entire year's worth of supply on a giant kaboom that'll wipe out the entire Bone Forest, it's not a good idea.

Neither is risking a cave in, too. Durable as she may be, geography is geography and we don't want several hundred tons of rock crashing ontop of Kanzeon
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>>4786212
Just use a monetary/resource incentive. If there is some resource that can be extracted from the mountain we can do it gradually over time.
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>>4786218
Except that'd be a sloppy job. If we're trying to unearth an god knows how many kilometers long ship from a mountain, that shit is going to take some stupidly high amount of manpower.

Manpower we NEED right goddamn now to avoid the chinese cyclical past time of gigantic famines that kill millions of people.
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>>4785566
>>Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.
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first:> You will just construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice
then after that >Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.
and we promise that once the kingdom is in a generally better position, we can start work on allowing her to get working on other options, such as getting resources to her so she can repair herself and/or excavate the mountain shes stuck in.
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>>4785566
> You will just construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice
>Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.
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>>4785566
> You will just construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice

I don't think you guys are seeing the bigger picture

RADIOS!
LONG DISTANCE COMMUNICATION WITH ALL OUR FORCES!

THIS IS A FUCKING PROSPERITY MULTIPLIER TIMES A 100% BECAUSE WE WILL BE ABLE TO INSTRUCT ALL OUR ALLIES AND FRIENDS ON WHAT MUST BE DONE IN REAL TIME FROM ANYWHERE IN YAN

PROSPERITY!
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>>4785566
>> You will just construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice
>Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.
for now.

>A complete excavation of the mountain. She will be completely freed.
long term goal. It might take 200 years until we have built up a base to do it, but she will be free.
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>>4785566
>Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.
> You will just construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice.

When we get enough tech to dig her out in a reasonable timespam and with a reasonable investment, we'll try the full "mine the mountain" stuff. Also when we destroy all remnants of the chaos tigermen amd probablyKairos.
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>>4785997
Again? Dude your options for this vote are the best, but your weapon choice is for training. This debate has risen and died so many times since the quest began that to kill it at this point, we must destroy it's phylactery.
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>>4786548
>your weapon choice is for training
>this debate has risen and died so many times since the quest began that to kill it at this point
tf u even talking about
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>>4786548
>your weapon choice is for training
Demonstrably and categorically false. Even if you were right, anything in a primarch's hands, regardless of its intent as a nonlethal weapon, can be made lethal.
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>>4785566
> You will just construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice
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>>4786603
If a primarch is told to kill and then gets to pick between a lethal weapon or a nonlethal one, he will choose the lethal one 100% of the time. That a primarch can kill by wistling very hard at someone doesn't mean that they should fight an Ork Warboss that way. The Chendao is a brutally effective and extremely versatile weapon and it will always be our main weapon. Can we use other weapons? Yes, we should use the weapon that benefits us the most in each situation, and if that weapon is a bo, then Lieren will swing that motherfucker like he was the Monkey king. The problem is that it's demonstrably and categorically true that we have wildly superior weapon choices for most fights.
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>>4786647
>If a primarch is told to kill and then gets to pick between a lethal weapon or a nonlethal one, he will choose the lethal one 100% of the time
Yes, you're right, he will. Because any weapon a primarch is holding is lethal. If you think blunt force trauma from a club being wielded by a 12-foot-tall transhuman demigod supersoldier would do anything less than kill whatever it hits, you're a fool.
>The Chendao is a brutally effective and extremely versatile weapon
It's a dao with a gun on the end, it's as effective as any weapon and as versatile as any combi-weapon. You want versatile? Find something that can duplicate and change it's size at will.
>and it will always be our main weapon
You're making calls you cannot ensure come to pass there, anon. Unless you're planning on samefagging whatever vote occurs regarding that matter.
>The problem is that it's demonstrably and categorically true that we have wildly superior weapon choices for most fights.
Our best weapons currently are the DaoT spear and swords we have, not the black powder canon guardian spear we made ourselves. A DaoT bo staff that can do what the Ruyi Jing Bang can do (and probably more, knowing DaoT humans) would take the top spot. Demonstrably and categorically indeed.
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>>4786647
It's not a normal bo, though. You do know that, right? The Ruyi Jingu Bang is pretty fucking special, in which it's particularly heavy and able to grow. And by 'heavy' i mean heavy. So the thing alone could probably become heavy enough to crush an Warboss just by dropping it on him.

Considering Kanzeon is made of this weird shape-changing metal, it could be very easily explained.
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>>4786170
An uh, Yeah he did in the past.
They were traps in how they were presented but the results made sense.

But just to avoid confusion, I'll remove the mountain thing from my vote here>>4785669 it an wait until Emps gets here
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>>4786685
We dont need a weapon right now. What we need is better armor.
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>>4786720
..What does that have to do with it? It's not like we only have one choice. We can make a new set of armor ourselves. An Gold-Banded Staff would allow us to make short work of any other enemies here on Shangrala.
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>>4785566
>>You will funnel resources to Kanzeon, so she may repair herself and construct an Avatar of sorts.
>Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.

I don't want to *just* make a radio and call it a day. She deserves more than that. But it's true that a full scale excavation would be pretty resource intensive given we've only just finished the War.

However, I do think we should think about excavating her fully later on, once things have stabilized.
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>>4785566
>A complete excavation of the mountain. She will be completely freed.
>Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.
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>>4785566
>>>You will funnel resources to Kanzeon, so she may repair herself and construct an Avatar of sorts.
>>Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.
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>>4786907
In all honesty funneling resources is a waste in mind option. The amount required would be enough to build a ship and would only be for a single avatar that’s guaranteed to draw attention.
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>>4786957
Not to mention those resources would be better put to use uplifting our people and furthering the industrial revolution, making it that much easier to actually excavate Kanzeon when we're in a position to do so.
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>>4786957
Those rocks and stuff are perfect towards funneling into road workers or other projects.
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>>4786965
We already have plenty of quarries to collect stone from.
The upshot is they also don't have warpshit in em like this one.
Maybe if we leave Kanzeon to inspect the gestation pod for long enough, we might be able to create basic warp-proof suits for workers in the future.
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>>4786970
Actually we’ve never checked if the “warpshit” can be put to a constructive use. Like could we mold the rocks using the Journey to make useful somehow.
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>>4786977
If the warpshit is actually genuine warpstone, then it could have potential usage.
It's just that it also comes at the risk of causing rampant neural degradation and mutation in any living being exposed to it.
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>>4785566
>>A complete excavation of the mountain. She will be completely freed.
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>>4785566
>A complete excavation of the mountain. She will be completely freed.
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I propose we construct the radio and then with it spread the good word. However in the meantime we begin the logistical nightmare that will be her excavation.


I admit I'm really into the city built into the hollowed mountain then we'd have "Tyrants Fall" and "Kaezons Rise" given shed float out lol
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>>4786769
See, a bo staff monkey king is gay.
The chad option is long edged weapon that splits dimensional fabric for the approaching storm.


This joke would be funnier if I knew how to make spoilers on a phone.
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>>4787049
We can't be Vergil. We'd never be a deadbeat dad.
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>>4787049
Based middlepath anon wanting to make the chendao stronger.

Also you write (spoiler) the text you want in spoilers (/spoiler), but with [ ] instead of ( ).
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>>4787053
We also won’t have deadweight as a son.
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Khang ready for war

>>4786991
I think it could be still too dangerous, especially if is too warplike and unstable.

>>4787037
A city built there is an interesting idea, and it sounds fantastical in a way.

by the way the write-in plan i made was in the pastebin, of my precedent post. I did made it (not just talk that i would).


With the radio we should be more organized. We will be able to help kanzeon with time thanks to the recovery and investments in the kingdom. And this will further improve with the passing of the years and unification of Shangrila.
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>>4787090
Nice, they were honorauble and sheit.
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>>4787090
>I think it could be still too dangerous, especially if is too warplike and unstable.
Exactly my point.
Psykers themselves are already a massive risk.
No reason to introduce raw warpstone to the equation.
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>>4787053
True. But the memes.

>>4787059
thanks anon.
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>>4787090
It was Kang, I am 90% sure.
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>>4787131
No, I'm pretty certain it was Kangz.
You are right actually
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>>4787090
Man, the poor Kang are fucked, they will never surrender and we are about to get new shiny tech
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>>4787090
>I think it could be still too dangerous, especially if is too warplike and unstable.
Why not have Lieren research it so we can make an educated decision rather than fear imaginary possibilities?
>>4787128
It’s only a risk if you don’t know what you are doing.
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>>4787248
Have you ever heard about skaven? No? Figures...
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>>4787248
>It’s only a risk if you don’t know what you are doing.
Whatever you say Magnus.
It's not like we wouldn't study it anyhow.
It's just that we know enough about it already to be rightfully wary of it, and any research we do pursue is gonna be done with the tightest restrictions and procedures known to mankind.
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>>4785566
> You will just construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice
>Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.
I don't see why we can't excavate her and have an avatar of her walking around in the future. After all it's difficult showing her the planet while she is in space. With her avatar we can go for walks and have her meet the various people of the world. If people are afraid of her sticking out too much, we can disguise her form in someway(holographic disguise/transforming body like a T-1000 perhaps?).
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>>4787531
I mean, that's the plan.
It's just that it's gonna have to wait until we're good and ready to actually do it efficiently and safely.
Need I remind you of China's most famous large-scale engineering project and the absolute misery involved in it's construction?
Let's avoid as much of that as we possibly can.
Also we should build a wall to reinforce our borders before we start planning our conquest of the Vishnu.
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>>4787531
>With her avatar we can go for walks and have her meet the various people of the world.
Because the resource cost is near impossible to meet. Like you remember what it would cost right? It’s not worth it at all.
> holographic disguise/transforming body like a T-1000 perhaps?
Doubt we have the tech to effectively do the former and the latter may not be possible here.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the late update.

construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice: 15

Focus instead on studying the egg and Kanzeon, both of their construction may provide a means to end her solitude.:14

Confide with Kanzeon about how the incubator and indirectly Lieren is responsible for the death of some of the original families of the people of Nothing, specifically our father's sons and wife:1

Ask her if she knows how to build devices to get herself out/excavate if given resources by us. If she does we hand them over:1

A complete excavation of the mountain. She will be completely freed.:10

funnel resources to Kanzeon, so she may repair herself and construct an Avatar of sorts.: 3

Total votes:24

So Lieren will Construct a radio with Kanzeon's aid, to allow her to at least be able to interact with the world beyond herself on some level, before turning his attention to studying his friend and the egg, in the hopes of discovering some secret which will provide a means to permanently end her solitude.

Writing now

>>4787090
That is stylish as fuck, really worth of the Kang who did nothing wrong. Unlike the Xue or Mao.
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>>4787117
true hopefully they just accept peace

>>4787131
>>4787186
oh right my bad, i thought something could be wrong but i didn t see that. Here is the correct version.


>>4787191
They truly are if they don t give up.


>>4787248
Well we know they are dangerous, but i suppose maybe we could study some of them in a appropriate laboratory. The thing is that when the escavation starts this crystals shouldn t be left inside or they might harm our workers.

>>4788085
thanks. I am preparing for Xue and Mao next by the way. Also the Lai when i find their colors.
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There lingers a certain dramatic impulse to undertake the tremendous and time consuming labor of fully excavating Kanzeon's metal body. A very literal interpretation of the oath spoken and made. However, such an undertaking would require years of hard labor and resources, unless a great advancement of the kingdoms technology was implemented. And that is ignoring the lingering corruption seeded throughout the mountain itself. While it would be a gesture worthy to be recorded into history and quite literally change the face of Shangrala herself, it cannot be accomplished presently. A future goal perhaps, when the people are fed and the wounds of the war have been mended.

"Such an illogical sense of romance! Such a rarity to find within a man such as pragmatic as yourself would not have completely denied the mere possibility of freeing my ancient form from its leagues high prison of stone and soil" Kanzeon sighs, her avatar smiling gently as she sits upon the shore of the steaming lake and settles one leg over the other. Rapping the knuckle of your curled pointer finger upon your chin, you turn your thoughts towards other avenues of freeing your friend from her confines, at least metaphorically.

Sadly, resources that could be funneled and diverted to Kanzeon are desperately needed upon the surface. Doubtlessly, such an advance construction would require a great quantity of precious metals and rare minerals to refine into themselves. Cultivating the industry required to "feed" her material form, would be costly. And such a seemingly extravagant squandering of resources would reflect badly upon the new regime, as the common man would not be able to comprehend Kanzeon as anything besides a goddess. You do not wish for a new religion to arise and enter into conflict with the lingering traditional sects, such a spiritual upheaval would do little besides sparking another war. Even the Journey, when it first appeared, created conflict even though it is little more than a treatise and guide to moral living and virtuous thoughts. The last thing she needs is zealous lunatics offering the blood of heathens to her circuitry.

"Though it would be somewhat amusing to be mistaken for a divine being. There would after all be an inkling of truth to such a belief, as I, like you, came from the heavens" Kanzeon chuckles, tracing the tips of her toes into the edge of the still green hued lake, which begins to shift ever so slightly blue as she sighs "But, it would be a pleasure most brief, after all the supersites would as you worry would turn towards extremism in the wayward hope of appeasing me. Machines are, after all, meant to serve rather than be worshiped.

And it would be a grave folly indeed to praise tools as gods, though Kanzeon is much more than a mere tool. She is a life, a soul, a thinking, feeling existence, which would only make the appearance of a cult worshipping her all the more likely.
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>>4788139

And in a way, the two of you are again alike in the view that it is more fulfilling to serve. That only leaves one possibility in your mind, how she can at least peer through the bars of her cage and speak with those who stand outside of it.

"A radio, the humblest and most mundane solution. But the only one your selfless nature can allow you take. And the choice I most agree with myself. Your people, after all deserve a respite from poverty and toil" Kanzeon says warmly, leaning back and bending her neck to look into your eyes with her own, brilliant green pools of light "Though, a glance within the river of..within your thoughts, tells me you intend to dig my body out eventually"

"Precisely. but their are other responsibilities and causes I must see to first, before I can devout all of the wealth within my hand and all of the energy within my body, to free you from this cage" You say solemnly, sighing as you step closer to Kanzeon's avatar and press your knuckles against the underside of your chin, in deeper thought "I believe I can rely on you to aid in the construction of a transmitter and receive powerful enough to broadcast and carry your voice, wherever I may wander"

"It would be as child's play to a machine as advance as myself, thought the facilities necessary to construct the technology from my remaining stores of materials will require some refurbishing and cleaning before they can function at their optimal capacity" Kanzeon explains, laying on her stomach to trace a finger atop the steam covered surface of the green colored lake. Her man of hair flows over her shoulders to the metallic sands beneath, soaking in the strange waters of the lake.

"Tests, calibrations, precise adjustments. It will not long, but it shall take sometime to prepare for the construction of even such a simple device" Kanzeon continues on, pouting as she looks upon her own reflection. And again, you find yourself pondering the vast mystery of her body. How the metal that is her flesh, her skin, her bones, can shift and can as fluidly as water. How such ancient technology merely functions, or how it even continues to after eons of disrepair. The elements that hide within her metal halls, the chemicals and minerals required to create such a advance steel. The nature of your friend is a curiosity to you still, one you desire to study and comprehend.

The advancements, the leaps and bound of technology and culture that could be made by researching even a fraction of her being, would be indescribable. A portion of humanity's old glory, the birthright of mankind once lost to storms and anarchy amidst the stars may let be reclaimable!

Kanzeon turns to you, wearing a wily, jackalish grin. And you realize that you had become so comfortable in her company you had not put forth even a modicum of effort to shield and hide away your thoughts from her perception.
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>>4788140

"Is it not a serious breach of etiquette within your culture, to so openly lust after having knowledge of a woman's body?" She asks teasingly, her tone as gentle as a spring rain. Lifting herself from the ground, she kneels and adjusts her posture as she muffles a laugh at your expense.

You chuckle in response to the flagrant accusation, laughing at yourself as well as her joke.

"I am scholar by, after all, all the mysteries of the world I desire to know and understand as well as I do my own heart" You laugh, grinning as you sit by her side "Though I would not go snooping around, pulling at wiring and disassembling your constituent components without your"

"Consent?" Kanzeon titters like a woman many centuries her younger "How very insolent of you, Lieren"

Sneering, you give your much more polite reply "Approval, permission or blessing"

"The meaning remains the same, despite my choice of words lacking your needless poeticism" Kanzeon pouts, smirking in delight that she could have such a mundane conversation and casual interaction after a period of such extended isolation "You are a rare example of a man who is a pleasant conversationalist, even compared to those who once occupied the veins and passages of my body"

Such a prestigious compliment! Truly you are humbled to receive such praise.

"But, to answer your lingering question, so long as your curiosity does not become damaging to any of my systems, you are welcome to study and investigate even the smallest part of my body" Kanzeon says with a dismissive wave of her hand "After all, it is only fair, considering how deeply I have analyzed your thoughts and mind"

Where shall you focus your research, Lieren?
>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>The armory and Manufacturing theater
>Water growing district, and the catalogues of creation
>The halls of ripening and the lineage vaults
>Write in?

And sorry for the somewhat short update, as well
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>>4788142
>Study the egg
>Halls of ripening
>Amroury and manufacturing

I don't especially care about weapons and our production is good, but the food and egg are assets we must focus on.

Also, Kanzeon a cute.
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>>4788142
>The armory and Manufacturing theater
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>>4788142
>Study the egg
>Halls of ripening
>Amroury and manufacturing
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>>4788142
>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>The armory and Manufacturing theater
>The halls of ripening and the lineage vaults
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>>4788142
>>Study the egg
>>Halls of ripening
>>Amroury and manufacturing

nice update, we could do the water growing district and the catalogues next time we pass.
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>>4788142
>>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>Water growing district, and the catalogues of creation
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>>4788142
>The armory and Manufacturing theater
>Water growing district, and the catalogues of creation
>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
In that order of importance.
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>>4788142
>>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>Water growing district, and the catalogues of creation
>The armory and Manufacturing theater
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>>4788142
>>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>>The armory and Manufacturing theater
Finally. Flirting.
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>>4788142
>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>Manufacturing theater
>Water growing district, and the catalogues of creation
>The halls of ripening and the lineage vaults
Letw finally clear up that part in her ship that gives off bad vibes.
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>>4788142
>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>Water growing district, and the catalogues of creation
>The halls of ripening and the lineage vaults
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>>4788292
+1
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So first we develop hydroponics then we develop industry. We are going to need a vast sum of blacksmiths and apprentices to learn how to make steel in a forge somewhere. Then with that steel we can make chemical plants that is so efficient that the waste products get used as well somewhere as to not taint the environment and turn this gem of a world into another arid wasteland planet in 40k. Automation requires a man of stone so it's going to take a while before we get there.
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>>4788142
>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>The armory and Manufacturing theater
>Water growing district, and the catalogues of creation
While i'd like to check the halls of ripening, it's not going to go anywhere. It would be wise to study the egg too, rather than suffer any chance of something happening.

In the armory, we're going to get that ruyi jingu bang at last, and in the water growing district, we're going to see the PROSPERITY TECH
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>>4788142
>The armory and Manufacturing theater
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>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>The armory and Manufacturing theater
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>>4788142
>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>The armory and Manufacturing theater
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>>4788142
>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>The armory and Manufacturing theater
>Water growing district, and the catalogues of creation
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>>4788142
>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>Water growing district, and the catalogues of creation

>
"But, to answer your lingering question, so long as your curiosity does not become damaging to any of my systems, you are welcome to study and investigate even the smallest part of my body" Kanzeon says with a dismissive wave of her hand "After all, it is only fair, considering how deeply I have analyzed your thoughts and mind"


H..hot
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>>4788142
>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>Water growing district, and the catalogues of creation
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>>4788142
>>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>>Water growing district, and the catalogues of creation
>>The halls of ripening and the lineage vaults
Kanzeon is best girl, I will accept no other
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>>4788142
>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.

>Water growing district, and the catalogues of creation

Man I was really hoping to free her, I just hope we get the option again later.
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>>4788142
>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
This as the main one, and after we are finished
>Halls of ripening
>Amroury and manufacturing
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>>4788142
Damn Kanzeon hella thirsty.
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>>4789109
It's the first man in eons who she's come in contact with.
It also doesn't help that the man in question also happens to be an incredibly handsome demi-god with a heart of gold.
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>>4788419
> we're going to get that ruyi jingu bang
> said as a fact before a vote
> while being a minority
Anon, I...
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>>4788292
>>4788802
>>4789037
>>4789109
>Lieren: I have decided Kanzeon, I will study your halls of rippening, they seems to have something to do with cloning and artificial generation of lifeforms.
> Kanzeon: [Heavy breathing as the lights turn pink] You want to see where babies come from~ S-so Lewd~
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>>4789116
>fact before a vote
>while being a minority
That's not how it works, chum
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>>4789125
And so my plan for using a clone to create the psicker child continues.
Soon.
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>>4789161
why are you so certain that the weapon will be there? we've never been to the armory. Why do you think that this specific, mythical weapon will be in there? it kinda sounds like your demanding Malal put it in.
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>>4789196
Because the memes.
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>>4789109
It's not every day, (where most of them she has passed the time playing games alone, reviewing lists of destroyed objects and ensure warp anomalies that have degenerated her former masters don t walk in their home), that you see a fascinating, valorous, kind and charismatic farm/hunterboy with golden eyes and iron hair. And she is still more composed about it than most of the girls that have seen Lieren.

To be fair though I think they need more time together, before something could grow. There is definitely a nice atmosphere already though.
>>4789125
>Wenyan : I wonder if i will ever see some nephews in my arms...
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>>4788142
Supporting that one other anon's suggestion of flirting. It's too funny to pass up.

>>4788292
>>4788334
>>4788802
>>4789125
>>4789251
>a few years later
>be me
>be heavy equipment menial
>you and your company of merry workers have been carefully excavating the mountain in the region that was once infamously know as the Bone Devouring Forest
>the Yan [new name pending] dynasty has never been as prosperous as under the careful guidance of it's greatest patron, Lord Lieren
>you and your men were currently on their lunch break, lounging around the great mechanized machine Lord Lieren had invented not too long ago
>you were just discussing to your friend Thin Chen how Vishnu women had superior abs when something occurred

to be continued
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>>4789217
Not everyone thinks like that, some of us would rather prefer other weapons, like bullshit almost weightless dual DAoT powerfists+powerclaw (like Emps) + bolter (like Horus) combo that can be used with the panther style, or a DAoT bullshit nanometal power armour. The gauntlets would allow us to keep martial arts relevant, effective and extremely lethal against the worst of the worst among the bullshit enemies of the Imperium (they also go well with the Panther theme we have going). A DAoT power armour is bullshit literally beyond Terminator armour in all aspects and would make us invincible and invulnerable against anything the other Shangralan factions have (except the Knights and Titans that someone has in their basement. Probably). Meanwhile, a ringed Bo is a reinforced stick that adds practically nothing to the quest and can only be a lethal weapon on the levels required by virtue of being wielded by a very skilled and strong primarch. Stop trying to shoehorn your favourite weapon into the quest whitout giving any IC reason like "It may be a strech for a colony ship to have this, but it directly enhances our favourite cqc martial arts style and it fits our aesthetics" or "we've got our armour wrecked by very powerful enemies several times, so bullshit self-regenerating armour made of DAoT materials and tech we have access to is a go"
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>>4789251
Soon.
>>4789270
Goddamnit, you made me realize that since we are going to bury Small Chen as a hero together witth our old companions, it will mean even more people are goi g to be named Chen in the future.
We really need to pass a law that limits the number of same names in the country, or make up new ones.
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>>4789276
I for one will vote for the the staff.
We fuse it into the chendao, think of the combat possibilities of a expanding spear that shoots siege rounds.
We are going to be able to kill motherfuckers from another sector.
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>>4789286
ANON NOOOOO!!! DON'T MENTION WEAPON-FUSING! NOT AFTER THE LAST, DAY-LONG CLUSTERFUCK!
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>>4789291
I want a bottle opener, tweezers, and a microwave added on to our Chendao.
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>>4789292
Supporting this
plus an additional Burger maker
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>>4789292
+1 I care little for function. BRING ME THE MEMES!
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>>4789296
Ew no.

>>4789292
I also demand a hair brush for our horse and mint dispensers.
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>>4789302
Bruh
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>>4789276
>powerfists+powerclaw combo
EW, What kind of cringe retard uses powerfists to compliment martial arts? Did you never read Baki? Gloves only hold your power back.

Second, why do we need special power armor when we're already going to get top of the line Artificer DaoT tier primarch custom-made stuff already?
> "It may be a strech for a colony ship to have this, but it directly enhances our favourite cqc martial arts style and it fits our aesthetics
Kanzeon is an armor made entirely of living metal. If anything, this would be the perfect place to have a big staff.

Fuck, it could literally just be a column like in the actual Journey to the West. Point is, it's definitely not forced to have a Ruyi Jingu Bang here.
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>>4789334
>Did you never read Baki? Gloves only hold your power back
Gloves meant solely to limit the amount of force transferred to and from the fist, sure.
But not purpose built weapons made to compliment our personal styles of combat.
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>>4789334
>EW, What kind of cringe retard uses powerfists to compliment martial arts? Did you never read Baki? Gloves only hold your power back.
You are not funny, so using jokes to make a point instead of...well actual arguments, makes me think that you have none and just want the meme option.

> Second, why do we need special power armor when we're already going to get top of the line Artificer DaoT tier primarch custom-made stuff already?
Point, but having the schematics to make self-regenerating tech is just too bullshit to pass, and would give our future Artificier DAoT a nice boost. I prefere it to a bo at least.
> Kanzeon is an armor made entirely of living metal. If anything, this would be the perfect place to have a big staff.
It's a bullshit archeotech ship with insane tech and a miriad of aplications, there must be a lot of staffs. Your logic amazes me.
> Fuck, it could literally just be a column like in the actual Journey to the West.
A column is a good weapon to use in a hurry, like if we had to fight a greater daemon and had nothing else, and it would be a giant, superheavy and unwieldy weapon. What I'm trying to say is that, with the levels of tech necessary to create a faithful Ruyi Jingu Bang weapon (aka, self-replicating, mass-altering, size-shifting, indestructible bo), we could make something so much bullshit a d effective, like mass-altering, indestructible powerfists/powerclaws/bolterfists, nice DAoT upgrades for our future armour, or a sword (side weapon) we can do ninjamurai Primarch bullshit with, or an Artificier bolter, etc

>Point is, it's definitely not forced to have a Ruyi Jingu Bang here.
You still didn't give me an argument of why the bo staff is a fitting, proper (as in good enough) and IC weapon to substitute our main weapon for. "Lieren is the Monkey King and should use a bo" is as valid as "Lieren is [Insert Asian Hero/mith here] and should use a [insert legendary weapon here]".
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>>4789337
Anything which obscures your fists is a drawback.
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>>4789376
>self-regenerating tech is just too bullshit to pass
Who gives a shit about bullshit, what we want it something cool that fits. Why would you want Lieren to be some kind of donut steel with invincible armor?
>there must be a lot of staff
Yes. Having a Ruyi Jingu Bang would be very fitting with their liquid metal.
> and it would be a giant, superheavy and unwieldy weapon.
Anon, the Ruyi Jingu Bang is a column. That's what i'm talking about.
>like mass-altering, indestructible powerfists/powerclaws/bolterfists, nice DAoT upgrades for our future armour, or a sword (side weapon) we can do ninjamurai Primarch bullshit with, or an Artificier bolter, etc
Yeah, but why would we? Ninjamurais aren't cool, they're tryhardy and over the top. This is 40k, and everything works on rule of cool.
>"Lieren is [Insert Asian Hero/mith here] and should use a [insert legendary weapon here]".
We already have like 20 paralells with Sun Wukong, might as well grab the cool staff. With the others, not so much
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>>4789381
>punching
vs.
>punching with brass knuckles
which is more effective Anon?
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>>4789270
>the mountain, the rocks all around you began to crack and splinter!
>it was as though the entirety of the mountain was a vengeful spirit, screaming it's fury through soil and earth!
>we all stuck together in the largest and most robust of the cranes as we hoped to wait out the quakes
>by the courts- I mean by all that is good, when will the shaking end?
>it has been a full ten minutes since the mountain began it's death wails
>we're still too afraid to leave
>as the mountain continued to crumble around us, so too did the screaming increase intensity
>so much so that, by Lieren! bellow the earth, a metal beast lays!
>the slumber behemoth must had been the cause of the shakings, but for what reason?
>and the screaming, the sound oddly....feminine
>there was also a rhythmic beating noise within the beast that was in tempo with the moaning
>**THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP**
h-haarder
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>>4789438
Good point, bad example.
Brass knuckles used in the way popular media has shown will end up just breaking your fingers.
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>>4789390
>Who gives a shit about bullshit, what we want it something cool that fits.
>Why would you want Lieren to be some kind of donut steel with invincible armor?
First, you are supporting one of the most bullshit weapons in asian mithology, but sadly one whose set of magical abilities are not fitting for Lieren or too "out there" to be expained as practical or even posible.
Second, you are calling donut steel (as in Mary su and unnecessary) to an ability the necrons put in literally everything they make, and so do many of the xeno races in the galaxy, like the Rangdan (you know, the guys we are 100% going to fight, the ones controlled by the Slaught, an Old One created race of bioweapons that survived the War in Heaven and the Prefall Eldar for 65 million years, and then killed 2 primarchs and their legions and had enough left to fight the rest of the Imperium and almost kill everyone). Primarchs get sent to places no other member of the Imperium could reach or survive in, to fight enemies no other human could defeat (barring Emps and their brothers), so they HAVE to be a bunch of Gary Stus (powerwise) because they fight Gary Stus (The Beast died by atom incineration while killing motherfucking Vulcan, then divided into 5 equally powerful Warbosses, the orks havve all limitless reality warping by default).
>Ninjamurais aren't cool, they're tryhardy and over the top
They are anon, that's why the comment about the secondary whatever sword was intentianally written as lazy amd over the top, as in saying, "I don't know, we could make [insert bullshit here] with all those resources and techs".
>This is 40k, and everything works on rule of cool.
To an extent, unless you are an ork. By the same argument, everything I've said could be done and found within Kanzeon, even an improved version of it. It's not going to happen but could. At the point in which logic and narrative limitations do not matter any more, it's just a matter of what flavour of Exterminatus with a handle you like the most.
> We already have like 20 paralells with Sun Wukong, might as well grab the cool staff. With the others, not so much.
I think I'll let the other anons more versed in asian mithos talk about this one, but I remember Malal approving of the paralel between "Yellow Emperor fighting the Yan Emperor", "Lieren fighting the Yan Emperor" and "Emps fighting motherfucking "fire and brimstone" "steel dragon" "Yan means fire" Lieren after he is elected as Emperor". Then there is the Indian mithos that will get added after we conquer the Vishnu, etc.
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>>4789494
I just fucking noticed that "Steel Dragon" Lieren is
A title that is both badass, fitting (we made those cannons and are famous for it), could happen and would probably annoy our primarch a lot. It's just perfect.
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>>4789494
Orks are rule of funny not cool.
> Then there is the Indian mithos that will get added after we conquer the Vishnu, etc.
You mean the mythos where the Monkey King originated from and is even more accurate to lieren’s character?
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Now that I think of it there might be Jokaero being used by the Vishnu.
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>>4789556
We must drop everything and go save the monkey immediatly.
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>>4789533
Funny how that works, isn't it? Either we're going to find an underwater(?) place and get the staff from there, maybe one of Kanzeon's sisters is sitting at the bottom of the ocean, or the Emperor is going to be so impressed by our knowledge of philosophy that he gives us his staff. I'd imagine that latter would be our first meeting with him, with him being disguised as a monk.
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>>4789567
Hey, if you want to go to an underwater fortress, than our brother is in one right now.
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>>4789566
Agreed, he will teach us the wae, we will disregard all and return to monke, but with ultra-high tech
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>>4789533
The traditional monkey king is a fucking asshole.
>>4789567
Or maybe we don't get the staff and get something actually useful as our meeting gift with THE GOD EMPEROR OF MANKIND. Maybe you want to selfinsert as Him:
> Emperor: MY SON TO CONMEMORATE OUR MEETING I HAVE MADE YOU THE MOST CHING CHONG STEREOTYPE WEAPON SINCE NUNCKUCKS, THE BO STAFF!!! NOW YOU CAN ROLEPAY AS THE MONKE KING AS I ALWAYS DREAMED YOU WOULD.
>Lieren: Uhhh, thank you for your...kindness Father, but it's not the best nor the most practical weapon, it also does not fit my fighting style nor-
> EMPS: LISTEN HERE, YOU LITTLE SHIT, MY KARSTODES AND I HAVE ALREDY MADE A LOT OF FANFICS ABOUT THIS, SO IF I SAY YOU USE THE FUCKING STICK, YOU USE THE FUCKING STICK, REGARDLESS OF REASON, COMMON SENSE OR OTHERS OPINIONS AND VOTES!!!!

> Kanzeon's sisters is sitting at the bottom of the ocean.
Sure, she has an Old One bioweapon crab singing "under the sea" 24/7, that why she went trutly insane, embraced the nonsense and made a bo. Everything makes sense now.
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>>4789570
He's a piratical pirate, he has a submarine, and a boat, and a plane, and a spaceship, and uses all of them to do piratical things. He's the best and has a submarine volcano (not)evil lair with laser robot sharks, and it's also in space. He will let Lieren wear his piratical hat sometimes and will go on fishing trips with his brothers, and all will be fine UNTIL HE GETS REDACTED LIKE US!
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>>4788142
>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>The armory and Manufacturing theater
>Water growing district, and the catalogues of creation
>The halls of ripening and the lineage vaults
In that order.
>Machines are, after all, meant to serve rather than be worshiped.
Please don't let the tech-priests hear this.
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>>4789595
Kek, It's random Lieren comments like this that make me realize the utter clusterfuck that the future will bring, fucking Malal, he knows how to make a party
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>>4789589
Does the space pirate port volcano island have a skull shaped rock too? Because if it is, I you shall have my support if you propose it
And don't forget how he love technology and the machine spirits, and has a archeotech ship.
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>>4789605
The skull has red eyes and shoots lasers too, and flames. An may or may not have spikes, depending on the mood
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>>4789610
No spikes, dad has banned them and it would remind us too much of the drukhari, when we get around to kick their asses.
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>>4789583
>Or maybe we don't get the staff and get something actually useful as our meeting gift with THE GOD EMPEROR OF MANKIND. Maybe you want to selfinsert as Him:
I thought you said you were going to let more informed anons work the mythology angle. Well, here I am, telling you that in the original myth, the Monkey King (Lieren) received the Ruyi Jing Bang, among other things, after impressing the supreme god Mahabrahma Deva (Big E) with his lecture on philosophy. Look it up if you think I'm bullshitting and then, when proven wrong, be a bitter projectionist elsewhere.
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>>4788142

Did Lieren bring the not!Gauss Flayer Spear with him from the battle against Yin? If so then the whole debate about a Bo becomes irrelevant.

>Analyze Yins weapon with Kanzeon's aid.
>Studying the egg that birthed you with Kanzeon's aid.
>The armory and Manufacturing theater.
>Water growing district, and the catalogues of creation
And of course flirt.
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>>4785566
> You will just construct a radio so she can speak to you and others, it is the simplest and easiest choice
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Calling the vote now

Study the egg:22

Halls of ripening:9

The Armory:16

Water growing district: 13

Flirt:4

Analyze Yins weapon with Kanzeon's aid.:1
Total votes: 25

So Lieren will devout more time to his research, focusing his efforts on the egg, followed by the armory and manufacturing theater, and finished by the water growing distract and catalogues of creation.

Which means he'll spend more time with Kanzeon.

Writing now

>>4788168
thanks

>>4789125
>>4789270
>>4789439
Hahahahaar

>>4789583
And that is the final blow, my sides are obliterated

>>4789505
It also would make for amazing songs and poems. "The steel dragon flies". Now that is a heavy metal songs I'd rock out to.

>>4789839
Bit late there friend
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>>4789644
I said that I would let the more informed anons talk about weapons from other chinese and japanese mithic figures that resemble Lieren, and you started talking about the Monkey king again, sorry for the confusion, but I felt I was walking in circles.
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>>4790000
>Which means he'll spend more time with Kanzeon.
Based.
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Kanzeon, I don't know how, but once we hit primarch puberty we WILL find a way to impregnate metal

Primarchs are basically machines as well, just fleshy instead of klangy
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>>4789494
>are not fitting for Lieren or too "out there" to be expained as practical or even posible.
We already HAVE Sun Wukong abilities. Fiery Golden Eyes, remember?
>Second, you are calling donut steel (as in Mary su and unnecessary) to an ability the necrons put in literally everything they make, and so do many of the xeno races in the galaxy, like the Rangdan
Yes, why would you want to have necron armor? Like, come on, "le special primarch who's totally a better version of the emperor and will stop the heresy with his special guardian spear and ultra-coon necron armor"
>They are anon
Are not, Ninjamurais are tryhard.
> By the same argument, everything I've said could be done and found within Kanzeon
Yes, but what you want is boring.
>but I remember Malal approving of the paralel between "Yellow Emperor fighting the Yan Emperor", "Lieren fighting the Yan Emperor" and "Emps fighting motherfucking "fire and brimstone" "steel dragon" "Yan means fire" Lieren after he is elected as Emperor". Then there is the Indian mithos that will get added after we conquer the Vishnu, etc.
Steel Dragon? That's not a mythos being, that's an fake rock band from a Warner Bros movie. You're just spouting a bunch of random stuff.

Lieren is destined to use the magic growing stick.
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>>4789583
Sounds accurate to me, if Emperor didn't want us to be the monkey king he wouldn't have given us FIERY GOLDEN EYES
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I dont see what's so exciting about the monkey king theme. I always saw Lieren as a big guy with a gun stabber stick.
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>>4790229
Most iconic character in Chinese media.
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>>4790229
The Monkey King's cool and fits. Plus, being a Primarch who fits some sort of mythos is always good. Jaghatai is Genghis Khan, Hawkboy is Jebus...
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>>4790215
how do you know that the FIERY GOLDEN EYES aren't a mutation from Malal so that we would be better equipped to destroy the other forces of chaos? it seems fitting that the chaos force bent on destruction of all things (including other forces of chaos) might equip it's champion to recognize said forces upon sight.

>people throw around assumptions about the quest like they're writing it
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However, the avenue of research you first pursue has nothing to do with Kanzeon herself, but rather your own origins. With the living ship's advance faculties and instruments, you will surely be able to come to a deeper understanding of not only the machine that seemingly served as a surrogate mother, but also of yourself and perhaps even the world were you were truly "born". Perhaps, this study will even shed the light of comprehension upon the unanswered secrets of the eight day dream.

Generously, Kanzeon lends all of the aid she can to this scholarly endeavor, and allows you to renter the armory where you first encountered her, in a sense. It has been cleaned, the ancient bones and suits of armor that once lay piled in its center have vanished, the arcane tools and devices have been reorganized and returned to the stands and lockers that once held them. The room once held in disrepair thrums with power, a cleansing white light illuminating ever corner of the cyclopean forge, revealing to you the true extent of its industrial capability and sheer expansiveness. It is also clear, that Kanzeon has connected the armory to another part of her titanic body. For you are certain the armory was much smaller during your first visit, and lacked many of the alien machines that now tirelessly work around you.

"As perceptive as ever, you are correct. I've simply taken the ethos of working as efficiently as possible to heart, so to speak" Kanzeon explains as you ponderously study glass vats of bright, roiling liquids and burning chemicals and ever moving suspended pathways transporting refined materials further into the armory "Transporting the recently manufactured goods to their proper storage, a temporary assignment of space to ease the creation of the radio. Think of it like, binding ones hair or pressing their hands together"

You cannot hope to begin to comprehend the function or purpose of the numerous glowing machines that fill the space, repaired and cleaned so thoroughly their metal has become mirrorlike. Your reflection follows your every step through the once abandoned hallway.

"The inner workings of your body truly inspire awe, Kanzeon. To think you could preform such task as easily as another would move their hands. Impressive, truly impressive" You mutter as you drag the egg deeper into the expanded armory mingled with a manufacturing theater, the white lights briefly flashing an orange tinged gold before shifting briefly to a dim green hue, before returning to the nearly blinding white once again "You've managed to bring to me the rare pleasure of not understanding the purpose of technology at a single glance, truly a marvelous collection of mysteries and wonders lays before me within your halls"

A half hooded, oval table rises from the floor, perfectly measured and sized to hold the mechanical egg that carried down to Shangrala's surface.
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>>4790263

"Though if I were to explain the function of my components you would be disappointed, for being denied the joy of discovering their workings" Kanzeon replies amusedly as the walls vibrate with her mechanical laughter "It would be like depriving a man a joy of admiring a garden by describing it in great detail without allowing him so much as a glance"

"A garden of metal, arcane technology and the forgotten knowledge of bygone eras" You muse, as you heft the egg upon the table, and gingerly brush a hand across the glass screen that taught you so much in your youth, reminiscing upon simpler days long passt "Though, is its beauty comparable to a wild field of blossoming flowers, or an aged wood that has endured that passing of men and nations alike?"

There's a startling sharp buzz, that rips through the ambient humming and hissing of the machinery. It would, doubtlessly cause a normal man much pain or at least make them jump, but Kanzeon well understands the innate resistances of your body, from her ongoing study of it. It would seem she took some insult to the parable you presented

"You are imagining things, Lieren, all that occurred was a brief malfunction in a long dormant subsystem" Kanzeon claims swiftly, the lights cascading across the walls briefly sparking yellow "Though, could a garden of steel and ceramics not be equal in beauty to one of tilled soil and radiant blossoms?"

"That is a question without a clear answer, beauty comes in many forms, it is why I pondered it. For I have a deep love for industry and the natural world, yet both are so often opposed to the other. One's progression is harmful to the other" You muse as the machine begins to chime musically and wash the egg in incandescent waves of shimmering, shifting light. The sigils upon it briefly become alight, as if lit aflame.

"A paradoxical admiration, an intricate balance that is easily upset" You continue on, watching the process as the glowing hood set over the egg splits into numerous hands tipped with drills and other tools that you had always bared witnessed to upon the pictures stored within the egg's own repertoire of knowledge.

A current of air swirls through the room, the sigh of a true giant. It would seem that the artificial womb that birthed you is presenting some trouble to Kanzeon's own vast intellect in her attempts to comprehend its working.

"How strange, how strange" Her voice mutters in the crackle of electricity "I would never have imagined that humanity could continue its progress through the long night. At once, this machines is both regressive in construction yet far more advance in nature. The energies of the Empyrean pervade it, similar to the technology of the..."

A loud grinding noises echoes through the armory as the numerous machines prodding and studying the egg grind to a halt roughly. The lights in the room rapidly flash between bloody hues of scarlet and vibrant shades of yellow.

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>>4790264

Stepping closer to the egg, you peer closer to it. Perhaps the basic knowledge of the device's function could be of some aid to Kanzeon's examination of it. The lights briefly dim as another gust of wind whips through the armory, spilling out from the ceiling above your head.

"That would explain my frustration" Kanzeon's voice hiss along the same wind "A genelock to bypass the extensive security measures, both material and immaterial. Such a simple solution to bypass the cypher of scrap code and...sorry this must be confusing, In brief summary, the blood in your veins is the key and the egg is a chest filled with more traps than jade"

"Oh no I find all of this very fascinating, I always found it curious that I was able to access its secrets with such ease" You answer cheerfully as one of the drills traces over the air of the sigils as Kanzeon mutters in a tongue you do not understand, but which sounds like the static of damaged machinery

"Observe, its more arcane defense, if activated could threaten to tear open a rift in the dimensional fabric surrounding it. And a direct connection, integrating it into my body, would begin a furious assault upon my very being. Truly the love of a father is a potent inspiration for innovation" Kanzeon mutters, the falling lights still flared with yellow tones "Such a thing would have been a treasure in the age of my con...birth"

"Curious and rather exciting" You say as you proceed to activate the mechanical egg with a few prods of your finger "I knew it was an advance machine, but I never imagined truly how sophisticated its technology was"

Kanzeon falls silent, as the egg's glass screen flickers with all of the knowledge you have seen before. And strings of characters, numbers, sigils, readings, calculations and graphs you've never seen before this very moment.

"I do not wish to disappoint you, Lieren, but by my estimation fully studying this device will take sometime" Kanzeon mutters, the lights in the room shading into a dim plum glow as the examining light cascading down upon the egg's surface shifts and contracts to more closely observe its components.

"Your worry is unwarranted, my friend. That simply means we shall have more time together" You say warmly, as you tap your finger upon the glass screen, trying to make sense of the new combination of characters upon it. The lights shift to orange for a moment.

"The writing is in gothic, the standard language of the human race. I am unsurprised that you have managed to cultivate a fluent understanding of its written form" Kanzeon says praisingly "I shall project the translations of the words that lack meaning in your mother tongue, by definition or lack of specification.

You nod, silently picking at the words you know. Trepidation keeps you from reading the presented text for as long as it takes you to breath in. A cold clinging sense of worry fills your heart as you read through the first words of the paragraph.
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>>4790266

"Primarch project. Specimen numbered second. Given designation: "Simo". Designed purposed: Technician, Organization, General. Notable distinction from base genetic base: Altered Neural pathways, resulting in an expected dulling of emotional spectrum, Heightening of problem solving and learning capabilities and efficient organization of thoughts." You read outloud, pondering the revelations presented by the seemingly planned construction of, well yourself. It is unnerving and upsetting.

Portions of it are innaccurate. Particularly the described emotional stunting, and the complete lack of description pertaining to true potency of your perception, namely the ability to see beyond the veils of the material world and inflict pain with prolonged staring. Though the mere fact you were constructed, presented in such a coldly scientific tone also inspires a sense of doubt and dread.

You were not the intended result of this "Primarch project". The original intent of your creation calls to mind the illusions forced upon you by the unseen master. The Lieren of the wilds, picking apart the world like he was dissembling a machine, cold and detached. A Lieren without guidance or influence. Most frightening, most unsettling. Kanzeon remains silent but you can tell from the various mannerisms she presents, the humming of the lights, the shifting of their colors, the current of the winds and vibrations in the steel, tell you she is concerned for you.

And how couldn't she be, you're faced with a truth that is driving you towards the brink of panic, pushing you closer to an emotional outburst of impotent confusion, sorrow and rage.

"Read further, please, before you allow this knowledge to wound you" She whispers into your ear, as all of the machinery stops at once and the lights dimmed.

"Addendum" You read outloud sourly "It is my greatest regret, to have ordered your heart jailed my son. When I first began the primarch project, I had not yet understood what you were to me. I hope you shall be able to reclaim that which I wrongfully took from you. Perhaps your brothers will open your heart to the world, perhaps there shall be no need. I only hope, you can forgive me for the mistake of viewing my progeny as mere tools and the crime of altering you so thoughtlessly"

A small smile spreads across your lips, and you begin to laugh. Fatherly concern? now that is unexpected, especially considering the cynical nature the prose of the proceeding record. Its amusing, your fears and rising anger are washed away. Whoever had designed to bring you into the world, did not do so thoughtlessly and without concern.

A wind whips through the armory again. And then it clicks into place, in a momentary revelation.
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>>4790238
But Wu kong is a massive prick, Lieren is nothing like him.
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>>4790213
>Yes, why would you want to have necron armor? Like, come on, "le special primarch who's totally a better version of the emperor and will stop the heresy with his special guardian spear and ultra-coon necron armor"

You do realize that Ferrus Manus had arms literally coated in living metal, right? This is not unprecedented in the slightest for 40k, and a self-repairing suit of armour that flows with the wearer's body even more seamlessly than power armour (even more for Primarchs, since we don't have the Black Carapace for interfacing with Astartes power armour like our sons do) would doubtlessly prove very beneficial.
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>>4790269

Why the radiant man and his companion seemed familiar. Like the inborn wisdom that had so benefitted you in the past, a lingering memory is sparked, before you were born. A dream of a past you had not lived.

"A father's love is a mysterious thing" You mutter, feeling quite the fool for not recognizing the figures in your dreams earlier.

"I was worried you'd be hurt by the truth. I am...thankful that you withstood such upsetting knowledge. I am not certain I could stand seeing your brought...low by such a thing. You have a heart, that's gentler than most, kinder than most and far more generous than most, despite all that you have witnessed and done" Kanzeon says, as you wipe a tear from your eye, trying to restrain the wildly conflicting emotions raging in your heart.

You are, not a member of some star born race, which is saddening and painful to learn. But you have brothers, and a father of sorts who holds your well being in your heart. Suddenly, the universe does not seem as uncaringly cold.

"Thank you, my friend. But without your support and presence, I am not certain that I would have been able to overcome the painful bite of the truth " You say, a warmth welling up inside of your chest and spreading down your every limb, tingling to the tips of your fingers "Still, it is quite shocking to learn the truth of my birth"

"As it is for every man" Kanzeon says, trying to keep your cheerful and content, so you don't breakdown or begin to cry.

But there is no danger of that now. Knowing the father who created you, regretted his selfish intent, brings you joy and relief.

"I am thankful you've found happiness where other man would have only found despair" Kanzeon laughs "But, it seems you and I, are more alike than I first thought"

"That is true, we were both made for a purpose, but an axe may be used to fell trees, to slay men, or to till the earth. One's true purpose, is decided by their decision alone" You say blithely as you tap at the various sigils and buttons on the egg, commanding it to change the information it shows despite the fact Kanzeon can freely search through the information stored within "Now let us see, if there is a secret contained within this machine that will allow you to be free from your prison, my friend"

"So Selfless" You swear you hear Kanzeon mutter before her voice raises in your minds "Lets. With our two minds, such research will be done within the day, I am certain"

Smiling, you work alongside your friend, as you study the device that brought you to this world, years before.
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The autumn of learning, Or the Friendship between Giant Lieren and the Goddess Kanzeon Blossoms radiantly within the dark.

Lieren traveled beneath the world, to free a goddess from the captivity forced upon her by legions of devils and wayward souls.
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>>4790274

The giant, whose heart could feel the suffering of all other lives upon Shangrala, had long heard the maiden Kanzeon's plight, and toiled tirelessly to find a means to reach her prison.

At last, after he had laid to rest the soul of his dear companion, the Ox man Chen, Lieren found a route to the spirit world by following the spirit of his friend. It was unguarded by both divinity and hellish attentions. A crack in the wall between the wails. Upon an impulse born solely of a selfless desire to alleviate suffering where ever it may be, Lieren marched into the yawning mouth of hell, utterly unafraid of the trials that awaited him within.

Upon the bridge to hell, Lieren met a soul of a warrior who had long warred to free himself from the prison of devils. Aruna of the dead, The last of an army of noble vishnu who sought to free the trapped goddess ages past. Refusing to accept his death, Lieren sat by his cage and taught the warrior to release his eartly connections. Thus freed from the grudges of his life, the warrior pledged to aid Lieren in freeing the Goddess and ending her torment forever more.

Traveling together, the pair battled hordes of evils spirits on the brink of becoming devils by the grudges they held. Nearly overwhelmed, they were saved by an Ogre who had mistaken Lieren for his long lost brother, Rudra, who upon realizing his mistake befriended the giant as Lieren sought to understand the unusual demon and thus encouraged the morality within his heart to blossom forth wonderfully.

Now three, the group marched through great plains of uncovered corpses and tortured sinners. Feeding upon their flesh found the crow sisters, One born a woman to a crow, the other hatched as a bird laid by a maiden. Kamakshi and Akanksha. In an act of boundless generosity, Lieren offered his blood to Akanksha, allowing her to take human form as her sister had done. Thus earning their loyalty and esteem, the sisters swore an Oath to aid Lieren in his quest to free the lotus Goddess Kanzeon.

Now numbered five, the group became trapped in the hellish manse of the tiger devils, who had captured the innocent tiger folk and wore their faces as a mask. Imprisoned to become the gruel to feed their larval spawn, Lieren and his ghostly companions were saved by Manu of the thousand eyes, A scholar who had set out on a quest to save the goddess himself ages before, and failed when the Lord beneath stole his heart and replaced it with stone.

Tricking the devils into allowing him to help in their preparation for their coming meal, Lieren found Manu's heart within the stew pot, and returning it to him, was granted knowledge of the Tiger devil's weaknesses. The tiger people, now freed, swore themselves to the cause of benevolence and prosperity and became Lieren's students.

At long last, Lieren reached the citadel where the goddess lay imprisoned. Knowing his companions would become forever trapped within its walls, Lieren ventured forth alone.
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>>4790275

Doing battle against ancient foes and long dead enemies, he reached Kanzeon's cell and found her crippled and bloodied. So, Lieren stayed by her side for a season or longer, tending to her wounds and teaching her the lessons of the Journey so she may purge the taint of hell from her veins. In return, the silver skinned goddess with Jade eyes, gave to the Iron haired giant with golden eyes, supernatural knowledge and the fruit of life from her garden, as well as...
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You sit at a desk Kanzeon has supplied to you, reading through the notes compiling your findings of your research concerning your friends body and the technology that makes it up. Strange flowers brought from distant worlds grow around you, dancing upon the humming wind sung by your dear friend. With your aid, she has repaired several systems that had fallen into disrepair.

The gentle burbling of the streams of the hydroponic gardens are contrasted by the ever thudding song of the armory.

"Still struggling to decide which gift to bring back to your people?" Kanzeon asks as you flip through the pages detailing a fraction of the wonders present within her "Its astonishing that you remained amazed by my mere nature, Lieren"

"You are an existence worth admiring, Kanzeon" You reply without missing a beat "But, I simply cannot decide what to take back with me, there's so much I have learned from you. But I cannot ask you to take from yourself to make me all of it'

"Though I would be happy to, if it would bring you the joy of improving countless lives. A joy I myself desire" Kanzeon titters as you once again flip through the pages "Perhaps I could help? I'm positively giddy to bring good to the world above after being left alone for so long"

That's true. Her voice will be heard now, and she shall hear other's voices besides your own.

"I would be content to hear your voice alone, but some variety will be welcome" Kanzeon teases as you tap your finger between the schematics of the few pieces technologies you were even able to comprehend.

What gift shall you give to the world, by Kanzeon's aid, Lieren?
>Hydroponics and the numerous caches of seeds and plant life she protected within herself.
>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission
>Weapons like the twin prince's Daos or the six fanged spear. War shall once again change beneath your guidance.
>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry
>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it
>Write in

Five votes again, but this time because of that "Bring Kanzeon egg" write in and studying it, rather than, say a handsome two faced unborn/dead chaos god.
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>>4790277
>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission
>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry

A lot of industrial processes use a metric shitton of water, so having a way to produce it without dams or polluting rivers and reservoirs from the byproducts would be a good way to avoid ecological damage. In the same vein, vehicles and advanced machines that are outright stated give us a chance to avoid the environmental effects of industry, not to mention give us a greater logistical capability for increased PROSPERITY (and war, naturally).
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>>4790277
>>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the world's technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging effects of industry.
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>>4790270
Not really true and you’re overlooking Khan.
>>4790269
> Technician
How about that.
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>>4790277
>Advanced machinery and Vehicles
>A secret

I want to bring weapons like the Daos, but it's best we stick to 2. And frankly, I can't resist this secret.
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>>4790277
>>Hydroponics and the numerous caches of seeds and plant life she protected within herself.
>>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission
you can't get more basic than food and water so i say we start there. if we can make our world post-scarcity this early we should
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>>4790277
>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission
>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry
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>>4790277
>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it
>Hydroponics and the numerous caches of seeds and plant life she protected within herself

The secret is far to tempting and hydroponics are good in general.
We don't need weapons right now and the stones and industry do hand in hand and can wait until we conquer the planet.
Also >Designed purposed: Technician, Organization, General.
EVERY SHIP A MANUFACTORUM.
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>>4790277
>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quantities of water through chemical fission
So much shit we could do with these
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>>4790290
>>4790345

I've Been dropping hints pointing towards who the 2nd primarch was supposed to be since the first thread. Or you know, the best I could guess since the one canon description of their personality comes from fulgrim and is described as

"Quiet, contemplative, lacking humor and a hypocrite"

Which besides contemplative, is a far cry from who Lieren has thus far grown into. but then again the source of that description is fucking fulgrim.

So I combined that with traits presented within the legion that adopted 2nd and 11th's sons in canon. The ultramarines, to get my image of what the 2nd primarch was meant to be.

A cold, logical, almost machine like man with a gift for logistics and finding the most efficient means to act from the most mundane actions to the grandest scale, as well as inbuilt technological/ technical know how (Much like a Perturabo, but more generalist)

Ironically, Lieren now holds traits that would also make his sons be able to become ultramarines without notice as well, but in a much different way.

You know, his strong belief in fellowship, unity and cooperation.

So to Say Lieren has gone way off the rails because he's landed on Shangrala, in Nothing and decided to help the villagers, is an understatement of Kanzeon proportions. and he's only deviated further from his "destiny" since then.


But I'll stop rambling before I spoil anything. Just figured explaining my idea of who the "Canon" 2nd primarch might interest someone.
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>>4790277
>>4790353
>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it
Fuck it, add this one too. It's too juicy to pass up.
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>>4790361
MYSTERY BOOOOOX
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>>4790363
The mystery box has served me well.
Then again it also hasn't, since there's a literal mystery box in the only other quest I follow and we're too busy being a good dad to really tinker with it.
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>>4790277
>Hydroponics and the numerous caches of seeds and plant life she protected within herself.
>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission
This two go together. Common guys, famines are the bane of China, and the text say we would create the machinary ourselfs anyway.
Also the Emperor made the primarch of the asian legion the number and tech autist, fucking kek.
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>>4790384
Adding this too:
>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it
>>4790361
I agree anon, after being cucked of meeting Malal, my curiosity is too strong to let this pass.
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>>4790384
Like I said before, the 2nd legion is not just Koreans. I mean sure the ethnicities in pre 30k and 30k terra are muddled compared to modern day buuut...

>>4790389
A man denied his primordial chaos
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>>4790392
It's really a fuckin' shame that Malal was denied. He is always denied.
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>>4790393
Khorne: So, young blood, how's it feel to have a centuries long plan foiled by an angry chinaman powered by friendship and breaking his own soul
Mala: Motherfuuuuckers!!!!
Slaanesh: I am not talking to you right now, I am sulking...also did any of you hear anything just now?
Mala: Suuuuck iiiiit
Tzneetch: Oh well it can't possibly feel worse than having a crazed soul gazing lunatic come out from nowhere to piss on the ashes of several of your plots after burning them in hot oil...mmm, no, besides my seething rage
Mala: I hate all of you and everything!
Khorne: Which is supposed to by my gimmick you avian bastard
Nurgle: hrrrrn, I still miss my toad. The poor baby, he got butchered before his time
Mala: Anarchy dammit! Am I still imperceptible or are you ignoring me!
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>>4790392
See, saying they are not just Koreans doesn't mean they aren't just all the pan-asians or whatever the fuck that techno-barbarian kingdom was called.
Also the memes.
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>>4790277
>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry

Communication and transportation are the bedrock of all successful empires (not that its OUR empire or anything, but it's the best help we can give)

>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it
Mystery box is Mystery box

>Write in

A curious little idea about small boxes going from one side of a city to another upon a track of sorts (trolleys)

And a more ambitious idea of humongous boxes going along "railroads" transporting goods and people along humongous distances (trains)

Basically I want a trolley system in every city and a train system connecting all of YAN to bring PROSPERITY to all the lands, and eventually the world

NO CARS THOUGH, cars are shit and also make no sense in a world filled with fog

I just want my trains and trolleys man, they're so goddamn charming and fit perfectly into our chink aesthetic
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>>4790405
I think that's something for us to develop ourselfs instead of bringing in from Kanzeon anon.
Although a bunch of trolleys inside of the cities, and railroads near the road would be good, and make the logistical power of the nation untouchable.
And they all must have those chinese roofs over them, for maximun charm.
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>>4790277
>>Weapons like the twin prince's Daos or the six fanged spear. War shall once again change beneath your guidance.
>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it
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>>4790277
>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry
>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it

Excited for the mystery box, unless it Empyrean means Warp
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>4790277
>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission
>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry
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>>4790436
it do, the old humans refereed to the warp as empyrean
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>>4790448
Oh well.
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>>4790277
>>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission
>>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it
Wait. Does she have a fucking STC database?
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>>4790277
>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry
>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission
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I sincerely hope that we don't lose the Secret. Come on guys, this shit sounds so worthwhile.
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>>4790457
Changing to just
>>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it
In the interest of actually getting it.
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>>4790277


>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry

>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it

>Hydroponics and the numerous caches of seeds and plant life she protected within herself.
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>>4790277
>>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission
>>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry
>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it
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>>4790277
>Hydroponics and the numerous caches of seeds and plant life she protected within herself.
>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission

THINK For a moment. We can make the advanced machinery and vehicle ourselves, we absolutely can. But can we really afford to not take in the DaoT hydroponics and the water generating stones?
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>>4790354
So what you're telling me is that Lieren was destined from his birth to be a logistics autist? It will be a great day on Shangrala when he discovers T R A I N S
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>>4790457
I sincerely hope not, that would kill all the tension. A complete STC is just an automatic 'I win'-button for the Imperium.
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>>4790585
It isn't

>>4790582
Remember what Lieren told the unseen master
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>>4790585
It can't be, the Omnicopaeia was apparently already "found" and it's on a fucking daemon world.
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>>4790594
Exactly, also > from the records and mysteries of the egg itself,
>The egg
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>>4790596
you have to eat all the egs
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>>4790402
Panpacific Empire is who you're probably thinking of.
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>>4790600
Yes, that one.
Thanks anon.
>>4790594
It probably isn't that, but Shangrala would have turned into a daemon world without us, so maybe?
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>>4790585
What do you mean an STC is a complete win? You think we're gonna steal all her knowledge or hand our waifu too the ad-mech? Fuck outta here.

Plus, theres like 3 hidden throughout the galaxy.
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>>4790277
Changing my vote, Which I had deleted i BELIEVE too.

>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it
>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission
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>>4790611
We already know the name, though. It's Hell's Teeth, it has nothing to do with Shangrala.
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>>4790277
>Hydroponics and the numerous caches of seeds and plant life she protected within herself.
>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission
>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry
>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it
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>>4790616
I meant what I said. An Imperium fully geared with STC-tech (or any human polity, for that matter) can steamroll over everything in the galaxy except Necrons and the Krorks, and possibly the Rangdan.

And like hell Lieren wouldn't make sure everyone gets to benefit from one if that was what it was (I'm fully aware Malal already said it isn't). And why would we need to steal anything from Kanzeon in the first place? She doesn't seem inclined to hoard knowledge/tech for herself.
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>>4790266
>all that occurred was a brief malfunction in a long dormant subsystem
Oh no. Can we help her, or is this only something that can be fixed with additional materials?

>but which sounds like the static of damaged machinery
Sounds interesting. It never hurts to broaden your horizons and learn a new language. Hey! She could help us learn through the radio when we're outside! It could be fun!

>The writing is in gothic, the standard language of the human race. I am unsurprised that you have managed to cultivate a fluent understanding of its written form
Can we practice speaking Gothic with Kanzeon? It's one thing to understand reading and writing, it's another to practice it verbally.

>>4790277
Oh good. We were able to fix some things.

>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry
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>>4790284
This looks like a pick one choice kind of thing

With industry, we can create vehicles that can make travel significantly easier.
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>>4790754
Yeah, I gathered it might be a pick one scenario. I'm fine with either one winning, so I voted for both.
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>>4790405
+1
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So which vote has the most votes so far? I think the agriculture, industry, and Malal votes had the most?
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>>4790277
>>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it

>>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry

Mystery box and Industry.
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>>4790277
>Hydroponics and the numerous caches of seeds and plant life she protected within herself.
>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission
>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry
>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it
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>>4791212
If it's only one choice then I choose this
>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry
mainly because the removal of the harmful effects of industry is really needed in the Imperium.
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>>4790213
>Yes, why would you want to have necron armor? Like, come on, "le special primarch who's totally a better version of the emperor and will stop the heresy with his special guardian spear and ultra-coon necron armor"
Whait, Kanzeon is an necron?!? First time I hear about this, I swear... oh shit, no shes not a necron, it's just another example of your bad reading comprehension and selective blindness.

>Are not, Ninjamurais are tryhard.
Yep, that's what I said. I thought it was clear, specially after being followed by "that's why that part of the comment was low effort", but you cut it out of your response, so I suppose it's not relevant to you.

> Yes, but what you want is boring.
A comment that exemplifies your opinion amd your lack of valid arguments in 7 words, if you could do the same with all your future posts, it would make ignoring you much, much easier.

>>but I remember Malal approving of the paralel between "Yellow Emperor fighting the Yan Emperor", "Lieren fighting the Yan Emperor" and "Emps fighting motherfucking "fire and brimstone" "steel dragon" "Yan means fire" Lieren after he is elected as Emperor". Then there is the Indian mithos that will get added after we conquer the Vishnu, etc.
Your response:
>Steel Dragon? That's not a mythos being, that's an fake rock band from a Warner Bros movie. You're just spouting a bunch of random stuff. Lieren is destined to use the magic growing stick.

I...what? I was the one to post that comment, the one with the parallel between chinese mithos and Lieren, and then Emps, then Malal said "well done anon, thet's pretty much it". I could search for it if necessary but I'd rather not. It was a few threads ago and this quest's threads are fuckhuge long. Btw, you have gone from normal argument to nonsensical rambling and insults, so I'll just ignore you from now on, and wait until you get kinkshamed during the weapons vote.
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>>4790277
>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it
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>>4791251
>Whait, Kanzeon is an necron?!? First time I hear about this, I swear... oh shit, no shes not a necron, it's just another example of your bad reading comprehension and selective blindness.
retard you very clearly used necron armor as an example of what you want
>Yep, that's what I said.
Yes, and it doesn't matter. Because they're still tryhard.
>A comment that exemplifies your opinion amd your lack of valid arguments in 7 words
It's boring though
>
I...what? I was the one to post that comment, the one with the parallel between chinese mithos and Lieren, and then Emp
THERE IS NO STEEL DRAGON. 'STEEL DRAGON' IS NOT A REAL MYTHOS.
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>>4791310
Anon, please calm down.
When the other anon said about the emperor fighting the Steel Dragon, he was talking about Emps defeating the Dragon of Mars, that's an inside the setting mythos, although it wasn't called that. Hr probably mixed it up with the name Steel Dragon, that's what we are calling cannons in Shangrala to make Shen happy.
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What in the god damn is happening? I love unadulterated autism as much as the next anon, but what flavor of autism is going on how?
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>>4791353
Two autists are having fight over weapons.
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>>4791310
> THERE IS NO STEEL DRAGON. 'STEEL DRAGON' IS NOT A REAL MYTHOS.
I know, that specific part of the post did not talk about the asian mithos, it just named several fake but plausible Lieren titles to remark who I was talking about (Lieren) and in the end said "Yan means fire". I will clarify this part by part: In the irl chinese legend, the yellow Emperor defeated the Yan Emperor (literally the Fire Emperor). The Yan emperor in this quest is Yan Weiza (the fat ugly guy we dethroned, who was a puppet to a giant daemon fox made of magical fire), but after some anon said that the Yellow Emperor was obviously Big E and thus could not be Lieren, I made a theory that basically drew a parallel between the Emperor of Yan (who had fire powers and other shit) and Lieren (who reinvented gunpowder [it burns and explodes and tends to produce smoke], cannons or "steel dragons" as they are called in Shangrala [cannons are weapons that use gunpowder and thus emit fire and smoke], and basically was falsely described as a demonic ogre with fire and smoke powers [demonic ogres that wield sorcerous fire and smoke have fire and smoke]). When Emps meets a primarch, he defeats them in a duel, or a conversation, or whatever and "dethrones" them, making them his generals. This correlates to the Yellow Emperor defeating the (New) Emperor of Yan. Is this clear enough? do you want a drawing?
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>>4791366
Actually, the only autist in this "conversation" is him, I just called him on his bullshit when he said we were going to get a Bo no matter what, then he started making points, then I made mine a d said "In the end it's just a matter of taste, pet's stop and wait for the vote". He then went batshit and started to get parts of my posts out of context, so when I came back to the quest I saw that shit and got angry (again) that this shitfest had been started (again). I'm here to read and ejoy the quest, and I can't do that if this guy appears from the woodwork and starts pointless arguments that bloat the thread (which, ironically, tends to bloat the thread even more)
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>>4791353
>>4791366
Weaponautism is one hell of a thing to see. I still remember that rwby quest that devolved into nothing but people arguing about what weapon they should have, it lasted one thread while still in character creation if I’m remembering correctly
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>>4791404
I vaguely remember a quest like that. Who was the character?
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>>4791413
I think it was a thief or a sneaky rwbychinamen
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>>4791353
It's not even entertaining autism. Just mindless yelling an a sobering lack of self-awareness. Makes me pine for the good old days when any dispute in a thread was decided by who could make the most graphic death threat.
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>>4791421
If it will make you happy anon, ahem.

Oh shut the fuck up you spot livered canerious tumour, I'm going have your knees broken and use the stumps of your shins to sodomise you until internal bleeding takes you.
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>>4791488
Breddy gud anon. Never heard anyone use adjectives like those before.
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>>4790277
>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission
>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry
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>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission
>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it
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>>4791369
>but after some anon said that the Yellow Emperor was obviously Big E and thus could not be Lieren
Oh, that was me, it was a joke on how the Emperor loves gold, and us being the jade emperor was another on that the fan favorite scheme of bone with yellow started after someone suggested white jade.
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>>4791604
Also I would argue that we have more in common with the Flame/Red/South/Yan Emperor/Shenning of mythology than the Yellow Emperor, giving he was the farmer emperor, that introduces millet and medicine and could make gold from nothing.
Also he looked like an ogre and one of his minister/son/friend was a big ox-headed guy called Chyou, which is obviouly another fucking Chen.

But anyways, we are our own thing, trying to copy another mythological being for sake of just copying it is dumb, and we didn't find anything that looked like the magic staff in the armory, so it's a moot point.
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>>4791393
You’re as much an autist as he is. Get over yourself.
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>>4791617
Agreed.

Also
>which is obviouly another fucking Chen
The Rangdan were not a race, it was the term the Imperium's burocrats use to describe that one time they tried to count and differenciate every Chen in the galaxy. Then the paperpushers went insane and killed Lieren with letter openers (but much like Kurze, he let himself get killed because he knew what evil he had unleashed upon mankind). Then there's a symilar incident but with "Wei", or as the codex calls it, the Pale Wasting.
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>>4791628
You are only a few hours late and probably missed it, but that argument ended, so stop rekindling this dumpster fire again anon
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>>4791617
I just remembered that the Yellow Emperor was taught by a deity called the Dark Lady, and she was all about war, sex and longevity.
Therefore I assert he was an slanneshi tyrant, just like ou Yan, who also shares a love for yellow.
Now I will stop my autism.
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>>4790277
>The devices you've named the "Water generating stones", so named because they are able to produce vast quanties of water through chemical fission
>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry
>A secret, taken from the records and mysteries of the egg itself, and...some prying into "Empyrean" as Kanzeon calls it
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>>4791369
I know the Steel Dragons are cannons, but what they are NOT is a mythological being. Which is what i was saying. It has nothing to do with the Yellow Emperor, moron. You claimed that it was somehow a fit, where it is clearly not. The Yellow Emperor is not an Mythological Being such as Sun Wukong, which was what i was originally talking about, but a Deity.
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WAIT GUYS WHAT ABOUT MEDICINE! Don't we need medical knowledge to cure all those crippled in the Capital, people afflicted with birth defects, injured war veterans, and so on?

>>4790277
>Write in
Adjusting my vote to as much medical related information we can get, cybernetics, prosthetics, vat grown limbs and so on. The Kang's heir will be stronger than ever, and our maimed monk friend will speak once more. Transportation and industry can come later, or maybe Industry and medicine. Industry would make processing medicine and medical supplies much easier.
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>>4791879
I almost forgot about this quest, and this is a good point. Backing this.
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>>4791879
Oh shit you are right, I'm changing my vote for prostethetics and medicine.
And the egg too if we can get both.
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>>4791879
dang that's a pretty good point.
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>>4791879
+1
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Votes so far
>Hydroponics (6)
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>"Water generating stones" (14)
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>Weapons (1) (rip)
gUBDF5xL

>Advance Machinery and vehicles (17)
o0vZsA7C W31ojt67 czjdfa40 DhdeP92/ buZ88Vmd NhjyHC5U R1ugRc6K /gHwBXk5 QCH/CZ1H BDopEE0/ kPeGpWyG BM6JBZ/i 1rGNthrS 3dXtAuG8 SDFBK41L C8T0lo8a QDseGTvn

>Sekrit (17)
czjdfa40 SPEScTIA XJdIyFhK +sgMjSV0 buZ88Vmd gUBDF5xL NhjyHC5U njpJtLys QCH/CZ1H BDopEE0/ fjnkliAf kPeGpWyG BM6JBZ/i 1rGNthrS +5VcqTAQ gwATTdUM C8T0lo8a

>Super medicine (5)
QDseGTvn orjGpbae +sgMjSV0 C8T0lo8a kPeGpWyG

>Trains/Trolleys (2) (rip)
buZ88Vmd BM6JBZ/i>>4790785

I think I got these right. Looks like Advanced Machines, the Secret, or both will win out.
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>>4792010
Anon I know those are all ids but holy shit it makes you look like a broken ai
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>>4792034
>>4792010
Fucking kek thats what I was thinking too.
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>>4791879
Oh shit I forgot. I'll support
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Page 9 warning. That and reloading the page is getting longer.

Great thread as always Malal!
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A camera would be nice, we could take photos of ourselves with our father, or of our friends and allies in order to have a physical momento of them as we physically outlive them and their descendants by tens of thousands of years

We have the memory staff, but a picture or a commissioned painting would be nice
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>>4791879
Sure.
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>>4790405
I'm not sure we're ready to introduce metropolitan and interstate sushi trains.
But I hear you about avoiding pollution. We do have all that damn fog though, but it's small potatoes compared to what's on offer.

>>4791879
Backing this medicine all the way.
We've got food surplus production in Nothing already and that was a disaster with poor produce when we first made landfall. We can ramp up similar agricultural projects in other cities with the fertiliser knowledge we already have.
Fa, the missionaries and others need us now.

>>4790277
Water is a byproduct of solar fusion and other hydrogen reactions. I am worried about the radiation implications of this. DAoT relics are not known for being safe.

Also do we have the spear here with us in Kanzeon? Can we ask her to study it for empyrean contamination?
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8 for medicine, I doubt it is going to pass.

Think that those advanced machines can be utilised to create prosthetics anyway?
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>>4792390
Memory Lotus, not staff.

>>4792456
>empyrean contamination?
Speaking of, we should discuss with her about that, to ensure she's capable of protecting herself. The warp is partially what lead to the Dark Age of Technology I think. Quote me if I'm wrong.

>>4790277
We should also mention how our reciting verses of our Journey was able to enrage and hurt some of the evil entities to a degree. Weird anti believe proclamation powers stuff. If she encounters any demons, she could yell at em to fuck off.
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>>4792642
It's a scepter, if you want to be pedantic.
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>>4790277
>Advance Machinery and vehicles, an great advancement of the worlds technology, but one that you could've made eventually yourself. Perhaps, it will allow you to forgo the more damaging affects of industry
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>>4790277
>secret
>medicine
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>>4791879
+1 I want my chainsaw arms and rocket feet
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>>4790277
When we get back to the capital, we should finally sit down and tell all our leaders how to btfo chaos/demons/sorcery, in addition to reorganizing our military structure. That was the plan after the war. We also need to talk with the old fox.
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>>4793185
We do have a lot to remember.
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>>4792642
It was mentioned before that the warpstone used in the temple's construction was laced around Kanzeon, and that it might be a byproduct of some shipboard reaction. It's worth asking further about that and our observations of spiritual possession in the Unseen Master.
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>>4793300
we need to make a list because I know we'll forget something by then.
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>>4793527
Someone already made one actually.
Hey pastebin anon, could you add that thing to the list?
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>>4793564
which anon?
https://pastebin.com/sNmSARw6
https://pastebin.com/XzCeLa0k
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>>4794063
I only remember the first one, when did the other post his list? Anyway, either one works.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait. I've archived the thread and will make a new one.

Water generating stones: 14

Advance Machinery and vehicles: 18

A secret:18

Hydroponics and numerous caches of seeds:6

Trains+ trolleys: 2

Weapons like the twin prince's Daos or the six fanged spear:

As much medical related information you can get:10

Total votes:32

So, Lieren shall bring back advance technology and vehicles, that his people will be able to replicate without Kanzeon's aid with proper instruction. That should hopefully aid in preventing the worst damages caused by industry

As well as a secret learned from the mechanicle egg's records and mysteries, and mediation upon the spirit world, or Empyrean as Kanzeon calls it

So, writing now and making a NEW thread, which I shall link here.

Sorry again for the wait

And for those who voted medicine, don't worry. This vote was what gift to bring from Kanzeon to your people

The secret is the one choice that isn't, and thus can be included with the winner. but what is it?

You will see

>>4792456
You did bring the spear.

>>4792308
Thanks! glad you enjoyed it

>>4790743
That was the excuse Kanzeon used. Notice how before it happened Lieren was pondering the question if a garden of metal was as beautiful as a natural one

>>4791640
kek
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>>4794721
Oh and my bad, forgot to list the votes for weapons

weapons had 1 vote. My bad. Doesn't change the total or outcome, however
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>>4794721
Wait, would'nt the Water Stones get in?
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>>4794880
Nope. Not half of the total vote.
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>>4794896
Nor one less than half.
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>>4794908
Most of the votes including cars had it too

But congrats to those who decided electric cars were better than DaOT Water Generation Magic
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>>4794913
It's not like they've fucking ceased to exist. this is just what Lieren is bringing to the People NOW.

Fuck, he's keeping one in his bag of "things I may need in my travels" because he isn't a moron. He just isn't bringing it to the world at large as a gift, since it could easily be abused

Just like how he knows HOW to make hydroponics now, and that Kanzeon can make weapons like the Power Daos or the six fanged spear. The vote was what he'd take now, as a gift from Kanzeon, since its kind of hard for the average person to reach her cause

Ya know death forest and warpstone filled caverns.
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>>4794931
I do wonder if they would attribute this act to Lieren himself or Kanzeon proper.
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>>4794931
>tfw you will never gift your shipfu a DaoT tier heart you made
>tfw you will never hug shipfu
Why live
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>>4794913
also as I stated when I called the votes. All options except the Secret choice, were mutually exclusive because if you recall Kanzeon is a little hesitant to share her technology because it can be abused with hilarious ease.

Lieren is only person she trusts to introduce any of it to the world at large. Because you know, her passengers became crazed cultists and tried to forcefully take weaponry from her centuries ago.

The egg choice is an exception, because it is something not taken from her, but rather from Lieren's egg.

>>4794950
I mean you could, she has a physical body

>>4794944
Well the legend of the goddess of the wilds had to start somewhere
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>>4794931
Even if it isn't, water generating stones *are* the most important thing know, since, ya know, water

People seem to be forgetting we're in china and just going for whatever seems the most techy. Water devices would help us way too much, especially for hydroelectric power.
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>>4794962
Chill out man and it isn't just about the machines, it's about getting machines while avoiding the polution that entails
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>>4794992
Ya, but water generating stones would allow us to have clean, free energy

Cars are NOTHING compared to the pollution that comes from shit like coal plants
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>>4795020
Oh Lieren isn't touch coal power. He has taken other means to just bypass that stage of industry. Imagine a Shangrala with industrial smog as well as fog?

No one would be able to see shit!
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>>4795020
It seems to me you take away more enjoyment from this quest talking about the environment in a fictional setting than the adventures of the second primarch.
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>>4795054
Or breath, actually. Like this doesn't seem like something that you could survive. You would probably choke if it dragged down.
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New thread: >>4795070

Also, I should mention. The secret wasn't a singular discovery

That write in to bring the egg, unlocked a couple of things.
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>>4794962
Shangrala isn't some parched and arid desert, it's full of forests and fog. Gathering water could be as simple as setting up tarps (I'd be surprised if making plastic isn't part of the machinery) to collect moisture in the air, which ought to be plentiful given how much mist there is, nevermind however many rivers, streams, lakes and groundwater reservoirs there are in the land.
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>>4795169
No anon, it's not about water, it's about hydreletric

With the stones, we could have hydreletric dams, which are really good, without needing to destroy an entire ecosystem.
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>>4795177
To be sincere anon, you shouldn't worry about energy or pollution for long. Lieren is becoming more and more peaceful and diplomatic with every passing day. Soon, he will transform into nuclear Ghandi, thus embracing the atom and all it's wonders.



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