The Grail War continues, and you're in the mental world of your Servant.You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have shifted the future away from the one that you once would have faced and instead onto one of uncertainty and chaos.The Fifth Holy Grail War lies ahead of you, and the challenge and danger it represents to you, the people you care for and the world itself is far greater than you could have ever predicted. Though the grail might be corrupted and the war itself might be a sham, the stakes couldn't be higher.Archive of Paradox Reincarnator: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Fate/Paradox%20ReincarnatorGeneral Archive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=WhatIsAQMStatus Menu: https://pastebin.com/AcNswEHqShinji Status Page: https://pastebin.com/a6fiNxrZMy Twitter: https://twitter.com/WhatIsAQMLast Thread: >>4697313
"Questions then. Alright. First up, can you tell me if this world was born out of the repressed memories of Betty and the power of the entity she has a link to? How real is this place? Is it all just an intricate illusion? Is Abigail outside real or just a memory?""An interesting question to start with, I suppose. It has a lot to do with the entity that your Servant is linked to. Azathoth, the origin point of creation. Your Servant... well, she's inherited one of his myriad authorities from him, though she can't put it to even one fraction of one trillionth of its actual power." Alan shrugs, there's a disappointed expression on his face. "Of course, it's probably for the best that she's limited to a human's comprehension. The beings she can form are just fragmented dreams compared to what she could really do with that power.""What... What sort of authority are we talking about?" You really don't like the sound of this. Betty being linked to Azathoth is bad, of course, but as he's the one Outer God who doesn't actually have any sort of malicious motives due to his... well, his eternal slumber, it's a sort of trade-off of being both good and bad. Betty's actions will at least be her own and she's not going to be at risk of being fully possessed to act as nothing but an empty vessel. But if something could cause Azathoth to awaken, then... well, everything would end."The Authority to create life, of course. There's only one being in all of existence with the capacity to match Azathoth in that regard... You might call him God. Despite his... hands off approach in regards to the infinite worlds he formed out of the primordial energy of my Father and preference to act through mortal agents, he is quite problematic for beings like myself. A full conflict between the Outer Gods and the being that you mortals call God, YHWH or Allah would almost certainly awaken Azathoth and erase all of creation." Alan's voice is serious as he mentions that. The fact that God truly exists shouldn't really be too surprising to you, you already knew he probably had to have existed, seeing as all these other deities exist."Then... Are you saying that... God wasn't a creation of Azathoth?" It makes at least some sort of sense, and it gives you at least some comfort in knowing that despite everything, all of existence isn't actually just just some toy box of eldritch beings of incalculable power. That out there somewhere there may exist an ultimate force of benevolence and good. God may in fact be the one being capable of giving you an explanation of how you actually came here.
"That's... One of the few things that I don't know." Alan shrugs again. "'God' predates my existence. He may predate Azathoth, or Azathoth may predate it. It could even be that the two existences came into being at the same time, who can say? You'd have to ask my father, or God himself, and trust me, neither are very talkative!" Alan laughs. "But as I was saying, this world was formed out of Azathoth's authority. Which means that everything you see here is very much real, perfect recreations of everything Elizabeth remembered from her life, complete with minds and souls. The Unrestricted Creation of Life, a creation Authority surpassing that of an Earth Mother Goddess by dozens of orders of magnitude." He's... He's kidding, right!?"Betty... really had something that powerful, all this time?" That sort of thing... Nobody could control that much power! Even BB at the height of her power only had the authority of the Earth Mother Goddesses through Potnia Theron! To have that sort of authority on a universal... no, a multiversal scale! It's incredible! "Of course she did." Alan crosses his arms. "Do you really think that an authority derived from my father would be inferior in any way to something born on this ball of mud?" Alan lets slip some of his disdain for humanity and Earth as a whole, but you ignore it for now. "Fortunately for you, the human limitations of the girl have suppressed the skill and her Servant body cannot fully handle it, though if it were to be unsealed to its full extent, she would not require any of your magical energy to allow it to function." What a terrifying authority. You hope BB doesn't find out about this, otherwise she may very well try to steal it for herself. "Now, do you have any other questions?"[Status Updated!]"I do. I want to know if solving the mystery of Betty's inner world is related to the story of her life and death. The crucial events of her life that she is incapable of remembering.""Ha! A good question, and one I can reveal to you easily. While Abigail Williams disappeared at some point after the Salem Witch Trials, as it is recorded in human history, Elizabeth Parris did not. She lived a quiet life until the day she died, right?""I'm not really all that familiar with aftermath of the Salem Witch Trials, but I guess so." You don't exactly know all too much yourself, but it looks like Alan is happy to reveal it to you here.
"Wrong!" Alan claps his hands together. "The truth is that upon being possessed by my father, Elizabeth Parris... well, she erased her family accidentally, with the exception of her cousin Abigail, yet she was so overwhelmed with the guilt of doing so, that she not only used the authority of my father to create perfect simulacrums of her parents and siblings, but she also used it to make a copy of herself before deciding to turn her power on herself. The true Elizabeth Parris chose to erase herself at the age of nine years old to prevent another tragedy from occurring with her powers ever again. That's why Betty physically has no presence in her own mental world, or well, at least not on this layer of it." Alan shrugs again, and you really feel like that must be a habit of his, you want to tell him to stop being so nonchalant about such a heart wrenching story, but it wouldn't actually do anything."That's... terrible!" You feel dreadful about hearing the truth behind Betty's past. "But, if she didn't want to suffer the potential of another tragedy, why on Earth did she allow herself to be summoned as a Servant?" It just doesn't make sense that a girl who would attempt to erase herself from the planet would allow herself to be summoned once more."She didn't. It was a whim of my father that caused me to... arrange things to happen like that. Azathoth... well, I gather that he wanted to meet you at some point, though you can understand why this might be a little... difficult, considering the consequences of what might happen if he were to awaken fully, so I took a different aproach." Alan frowns. "The girl's memories were sealed as a result of her summoning. If she were to remember what she did, she would likely just erase herself once more, bypassing her current mental restrictions on the Unrestricted Creation of Life." You really want to find Betty just so you can try to comfort the girl about the tremendous pain she must've suffered as a result of her past. You had no idea the suffering that Betty must've gone through to decide to commit suicide like she did. "Now, I think that about neatly sums up the girl's past." Alan stretches, showing absolutely no empathy for the girl in the story he just told. "You have another question, right? I can tell from the look on your face that you do." He correctly guesses, and now it's your turn to frown."I do have one more question actually. What would the answer to the best question that would allow me to solve the mystery of this world and find Betty have been?" It feels kind of cheeky to ask such a tricky question in order to get the best answer possible to find Betty.
Alan claps. "Oh Bravo, that's a good one. Skipping the question and arriving straight at the answer? Well, I suppose I can answer that. You need to go deeper. This layer of Betty's inner world doesn't contain her because she's physically been removed from it by her own suppressed memories. You won't be able to find her here, but you might be able to find a path that leads to her in places she used to frequent." Alan suddenly looks at his watch, and tuts. "Physically, it's been about thirty minutes since you entered this place, but I've altered the passing of time in this world for you a little, so it's been a little over a minute on the outside world." Alan then turns around and opens the door, and instead of leading out to the hallway of the Parris manor, it simply leads into a black void. "Still, you'd better hurry up. Things might get a little hectic without your guidance." You want to call out to stop the man before he leaves, but you end up just watching him disappear through the door. "Go deeper? How the hell am I supposed to do that?!" You yell, and Abigail finally walks into the room at that moment. She still looks a little scared, but you can tell that the majority of her fear must've disappeared at the same time as Alan."Are you OK, Mister? The bad feeling that was in this room disappeared." Abby explains that she can no longer feel anything wrong with the room. It must've been Nyarlathotep putting her off. Wait... then wouldn't that mean that he'd been waiting in this room for you to show up all this time? You don't want to think about that one too hard."Yeah, I'm fine, Abby." You smile weakly at the girl who is looking at you with concern. You know for a fact that even if she was created through one of Betty's memories, this version of Abigail Williams is very much real. A memory processed by the authority of Azathoth into being a perfect recreation of the Abigail Williams that Betty once knew. It's a genuinely terrifying ability that Betty hides within her mental world, you really preferred when you thought she could just make weird tentacle beak things and organ dogs.>"Do you think you can lead me to the bad man you talked about earlier?">"Do you think you can lead me to the Town Square?>"Was there any place that Betty spent a lot of her time? We need to go there.">Try to use Truth to forge a pathway deeper into Betty's inner world from here.
>>4704671And, and of course, >Write-inIs always a possibility.
>>4704671>>"Do you think you can lead me to the Town Square?>pat her head as wellDon't deny her headpats.
>>4704671>>"Was there any place that Betty spent a lot of her time? We need to go there.">headpat abbyWell shit, we are on a time mission now, fucking orochi summoning servants, fucking worm.
>>4704671>Go to the basement.This being a dream, its possible that descending physically will allow us to go deeper into her mind.
>>4704671>"Was there any place that Betty spent a lot of her time? We need to go there."I'm thinking either basement or woods, but Abby would know for sure. The one thing I wouldn't want to do is use Truth to dig through Betty's mind.Good questions, anon who proposed them.
>"That's... One of the few things that I don't know." Alan shrugs again. "'God' predates my existence. He may predate Azathoth, or Azathoth may predate it. It could even be that the two existences came into being at the same time, who can say? You'd have to ask my father, or God himself, and trust me, neither are very talkative!"How curious. Isn`t this almost exactly how Yog-Sothoth tends to be described?In fact I think it comes up somewhere around Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath where Carter contemplates that different avatars of Yog-Sothoth may vary a lot and some of them like Tawil at'Umr are outright benevolent.>God, YHWH or AllahAnd all three major branches of Abrahamic faiths tends to have mystical offshots with heavy use of Qliphoth imagery and themes about learning Truth of the World and Creation.>>4704671Supporting >>4704687We either need to play dream logic and find girl who does not want be found and dark isolated basement is a solid guess.Or escalate dream and make her hear and observe the conflict.
Calling in thirty minutes.
>>4704697Yog-Sothoth is very much associated with YHWH and his form represents the kabbalist Tree of Life.That said, he's more of an animate representation of the paths to the higher unconscious than the actual Creator.In the Nasuverse, Yog is mainly associated with mastery over space and time.
>>4704671>>"Was there any place that Betty spent a lot of her time? We need to go there.">>headpat abby
Can we at least check the basement before we leave the house?If we the basement doesn't work out, we can quickly leave and try something else, but if we go out to look for alternate ways to descend, we'll end up wasting time backtracking if we want to try the basement.
>>4704671>"Was there any place that Betty spent a lot of her time? We need to go there."We should try to make a Truth Gate some time in the future, it's bound to be an interesting experience.
>>4704671>Was there any place that Betty spent a lot of her time? We need to go there.
>>4704671>Go to the basement.
>>4704715I imagine we'll get another choice after we talk to Abby.>>4704716Making a Truth gate after Nyarly specifically warned us Betty will kill herself again if she discovers the truth strikes me as a very, very bad idea.And did anyone else notice the keyhole in the OP?
>>4704671>"Was there any place that Betty spent a lot of her time? We need to go there.">headpat abby
>>4704703Yeah, I don`t really remember direct reference to YHWH from time I was binge reading most of Lovecraft`s works but that was a years ago. It had all the signs of occultism referecens but without direct namedrops. Totaly understandable given the time and place.>In the Nasuverse, Yog is mainly associated with mastery over space and time.Yes, Abby and her powers.Funny enough I recall Yog-Sothoth having the same presentation of Space and Time Deity in Demonbane. And Type-Moon collabed with Nitroplus to make Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel so you can fight Al Azif as Saber right now in Steam.I was mostly joking then we were talking pre-war about summoning Al Azif and buddy-buddy relationship with Outer Gods.Yet now we could actually bump into her.No signs of Melkor yet at least.
>>4704724I was thinking about making one in general, not now when we're in eldricht land. Don't you want to loose an arm and a leg, anon?
>>4704724>And did anyone else notice the keyhole in the OP?now i did.We should have our eyes open for any keyholes in this dream.
>>4704671>"Was there any place that Betty spent a lot of her time? We need to go there."Also, goddamn WhatIs i really love the way you're using the Mythos in this quest and the way the plot is developing, even the things I dislike. Congratz man.
>>4704729I've been rereading this quest from the start, and it's astonishing how nearly every early conspiracy theory about this quest turned out to be true in some way or another.Especially considering that most of them we're subtly foreshadowed and clearly planned from the start.Especially amusing was this one guy who claimed that we were an interdimensional parasite in thread one, which has effectively been the initial opinion of every cosmic or cosmic adjacent being we've talked to.Yog-Sothoth is a giant reference to kabbalah and hermetic magik, and symbolizes the method that can connect human beings to the mind of the universe by passing through different states of consciousness before aligning your subconscious with the divine.A lot of this journey is actually represented in Fate as well, as this process is essentially what Magi are trying to undergo through reaching the Root.True Magic is essentially the knowledge gained by reaching Kether in the kabbalist system, but magi are basically cheating with the Grail by tearing a hole in reality so they can directly look upon the wellspring of knowledge and energy that is the Root.A lot of that is oversimplified but that's basically the big connection between real world occultism and the Nasuverse.
>"Fortunately for you, the human limitations of the girl have suppressed the skill and her Servant body cannot fully handle it, though if it were to be unsealed to its full extent, she would not require any of your magical energy to allow it to function."And thats Nyarly giving us solid hint to get Betty out of Servant container, give her various skills for mental fortitude and Self-Modification.Alsohttps://youtu.be/M34_mzxN1woSaber outright calls Al Azif Caster.Game itself still inferior to some MUGEN custom build containing them and all of the cast from Melty Blood and UNDER NIGHT IN-BIRTH since they have Sion there.>>4704749>Especially amusing was this one guy who claimed that we were an interdimensional parasite in thread one, which has effectively been the initial opinion of every cosmic or cosmic adjacent being we've talked to.Was probably me. It should have same id as votes to speak russian to Monica because of Makiri heritage and suggestion to rig world economy with meta knowledge from real life.
So, would orochi summon blacked servants or normal ones?
>>4704757Is that all you Americans think about?
>>4704757Weird cheater servants from a modified summoning.
>>4704757Well. It will be gacha so it is safe to assume he will get same deal as Mordred had.So>Alright, can I get... 5 2d100s, as you're using Mordred to summon.>For the first 1d100>1-40 will be catalyst summons (Mordred as the Catalyst)>41-60 will be summoned based on compatibility>61-100 will be Servants that don't fit into either category.>The second 1d100 will determine the quality of the Servant.Which should meanFirst option contains japanese, russian, divine and dragon/snake Servants. Dreaded meeting with Kiyohime.Second options contains evil monsters who will be happy to help him cause destruction and end the world.And third is pure random.If WhatIs keep rules the same Orochi had a chance to pull full team of Independent Action Dragon and/or Divine haters.
The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Azatoth and the Creator being separate beings. It does a lot to reconcile the cosmology of the setting, and bridge the divide between the more human-centric World and the cosmically indifferent Universe.
>>4704798In the nasuverse God exists, at least.
"Abby... Was there any place that Betty liked to spend a lot of her time? You mentioned the Town Square earlier, but other than in this house, can you think of anywhere else she might have gone to a lot?" Abby obviously knows Betty very well indeed, and the two girls were probably best friends with each other in life, in addition to being cousins. That might be why the Abigail here is the one person who seems to be able to remember Betty at all. You also pat her on top of the head to try to reassure her, you feel like you should stop doing this, while the girl seems to enjoy it, you can't keep just spoiling her, can you? "Another place?" Abby thinks for a moment. "Well, there was a place outside of town that we sometimes went to, but we normally went with our parents... Or well, Betty's parents. It's quite a long walk to reach it though, and we normally took a carriage outside of town..." Abby reveals a favored location outside of town. "There's this one field with a tree. We always went there together when we got the chance." You don't know if the path deeper into Betty's mind would be there though, perhaps if you were to bet on the roots of this tree being able to reach deeper into Betty's mental space? You don't know."Anywhere else?" You need to know everything the girl has to tell you before you actually make a decision. If you were to simply go ahead and follow after the first lead presented to you, you probably wouldn't get anywhere. Then again, doing exactly that has already gotten you this far by following after Abby in the first place. It would've been a complete nightmare if she managed to get away, and it would've probably taken you hours in this world to figure out what was actually going. After all, it's not like you would really be able to expect random people on the street to know the Parris family."Uhhmmm... Maybe her father's church? We went there every day, after all. So we might be able to find something related to her there, but the minister has already been replaced by some man I don't know." Abigail gives you another suggestion. The church of Salem. It might be worth checking out, though you don't really know if it will give you any real leads as to Betty's location. "We... could also check the basement too. She didn't like it down there very much, but if she's trying to hide, she might've left something there. I..." Abby sounds a little ashamed. "I can't actually find the key to the basement, so I haven't been able to open it yet." Wonderful, so the door to the basement is going to require you to either kick it down use magecraft to try to unlock it if you want to see what's inside.>Have Betty lead you to the field. It might be a long walk, but you've got a good feeling about it.>Break into the Basement. Magecraft will let you in easily.>Go to Betty's father's church. You might find something there.>Try the Town Square? Abby mentioned she sometimes went there with Betty too.>Write-in...
>>4704802>>Break into the Basement. Magecraft will let you in easily.
Oh, and I'm going to need...7 Rolls of 2d100.Saber, Lancer, Archer, Rider, Assassin, Caster, Berserker in that order.
Rolled 35, 87 = 122 (2d100)>>4704806
>>4704802>Break into the Basement. Magecraft will let you in easily.>Headpat her>while the girl seems to enjoy it, you can't keep just spoiling her, can you? Yes
Rolled 99, 2 = 101 (2d100)>>4704806
Rolled 91, 30 = 121 (2d100)>>4704806god fucking damn it
>"There's this one field with a tree. We always went there together when we got the chance."Remember how in that dream where we met Nyarly there was unidentified girl near a lone Tree? WhatIs never commented who it was since it was still a spoiler.I`ll be going with it. Breaking into basement seems to be force option Nyarly mentioned.Or we could search the key since there is a keyhole in OP and it is Betty. Not that 100% sure on this one.>>4704802>Have Betty lead you to the field. It might be a long walk, but you've got a good feeling about it.>>4704807Hey. Thats almost my previous Gawain roll.>Rolled 9, 87 = 96 (2d100)Not that Orochi would get him.
Rolled 52, 35 = 87 (2d100)>>4704806
Rolled 66, 27 = 93 (2d100)>>4704806Hoping for NOBU. Well as an archer at least.>>4704807>Break into the Basement. Magecraft will let you in easily.
>>4704806so, its lower better?
>>4704802>>4704808+1we may never see this abby after this, so we better spoil her.
Rolled 63, 63 = 126 (2d100)
>>4704839do we get a bonus for rolling the same number
>>4704843Oh well he got it, I'm retarded so I have no idea how to roll.
Ignore this, trying the dice. "dice+2d2"
Rolled 1, 2 = 3 (2d2)>>4704851
>>4704851>>4704854Yay it worked, thanks senpai!
we need one more
Rolled 84, 75 = 159 (2d100)>>4704806
>>4704854I don't know if we should say good work or curse you for this roll.
>>4704864Oh, I just noticed it was d2.
>>4704861oh my, thats somewhat high
>>Caster, Random, Quality 83, Female>Circe>>Saber, Mordred Catalyst, Quality 87, Male>Gawain>>Saber, Random, Quality 3, Male>Gilles.>>Lancer, Mordred Catalyst, Quality 28,>Gareth+ Morgan.Measurements WhatIs gave us last time.>>4704810>>4704854One number away from the fun zone.
>>4704864Eh? Did I roll bad? The first one I tried was just a test.
>>4704866Same. That almost critfall Enkidu you rolled got me a bit too excited.
>>4704802>Break into the Basement. Magecraft will let you in easily.>Headpat her
>>4704869First one I did was just a test, what are the real results?
>>4704870Yeah, I didn't notice at first and I thought you'd rolled 1,2 on 2d100.
How much do we bet that this is the thread were Enhance gets featured.
>>4704885He's gonna show up for one scene and then have one or two sentences of dialogue and maybe some fights, just like in SMT!
>>47048850 this thread will get derailed again.
>>4704802>Break into the Basement. Magecraft will let you in easily.>>4704885I'd bet 400 against, maybe if we told Betty in the real world we'd have the time.
Rolled 83, 3, 43, 36, 3, 41, 72 = 281 (7d100)Busy with familySo calling in maybe forty minutes?Don't hold me to that.Also rolling for Orochi's best of 2.
All right lets see how fucked we are. Assuming old system is used as it was.>>Saber>Rolled 35, 87Orochi catalyst Saber who is as strong as Gawain.>>Lancer>Rolled 99, 2 (3)Random Lancer with around Saber Gilles level power.>>Archer>Rolled 91, 30 (43)Another below average random Servant.>>Rider>Rolled 52, 35 (36)Somebody with compatibility with Orochi but weak.>>Assassin>Rolled 66, 27Hello, Bad Hand Hassan?>>Caster>Rolled 63, 63Random above average Caster.>>Berserker>Rolled 84, 75Random strong Berserker.Thats rather mild.Some could even be traitors.
>>4704929okay now it's time to check what kind of traits that orochi has.snake, divine, evil, etc.dragon affinity saber is likely seigfreid.
I wonder how Orochi plans to control these Servants.Surely they would realize that the seven of them can't all get a wish, which makes me think Orochi is going to dominate them with some massively overcharged Command Spell variant.If that's the case, it will be very difficult to get them to infight, and we may find ourselves against our first truly unified enemy.
>>4704911Too bad about all those below average weakling Servants.They just got summoned by the worst possible Master, who can... well. I think you may know what he did to them.So with that in mind,I'm going to need another set of dice while I get to writing.3d100 4 times.
Rolled 98, 38, 62 = 198 (3d100)>>4704971Hoo boy. Lets hope for a non shit roll this time
And we have with us right now:Servants: Betty, Medea, Morgan, Tamamo, EMIYA, Alcides Giving His All, Ibaraki and King MordredNon-Servants who can fight Servants: Arcueid at 25%, Ruby Rin, Amethyst Shinji, Shiki and Aoko.Medea still can teleport some people to us and we can also give Shiki the shroud.Enhance and Ciel can fight Servants. And so can Gray.Helicopter crew still has: Sakura, Saber, Shirou, Satsuki, Alitheia and Touko.Manaka may interfere to capitalise on chaos. And there is also Gilgamesh.Manaka has at least these altered Servants according to WhatIs.>SaberGood old Saber Alter, we seen her already.>LancerDiarmuid Alter, we seen him already,>RiderLikely Iskandar Alter>AEither Alter variant of Hundred Faces or Gilgamesh Alter>BerserkerLancelot, we seen him already.>>4704959Few could try to resist him if they have skills to do so.Rule Breaker should be factored as well.Honestly Orochi is better off eating most of them just because he could get something useful out of it.
Rolled 26, 13, 70 = 109 (3d100)>>4704971
Rolled 79, 78, 23 = 180 (3d100)>>4704971Gramps, stop, you will bankrupt us.
Rolled 26, 70, 7 = 103 (3d100)>>4704971
>>4704975>Honestly Orochi is better off eating most of them just because he could get something useful out of it.That's likely the play he's making, despite it usually being better to have the person than the skills.Really, he deserves the shit rolls for doing such a lame powerup play when he's already set.
I will recount.>>Lancer>Rolled 98, 38, 62Random above average Lancer.>>Archer>Rolled 26, 13, 70Orochi catalyst above average-strong Archer.>>Rider>Rolled 79, 78, 23Random strong Rider.>>Assassin>Rolled 26, 70, 7Orochi catalyst above average-strong Assassin.>>4704971Who were those weakling, WhatIs?>>4704989>for doing such a lame powerup play when he's already set.One of them could have been his own future daughter!
>>4704994If assassin at least has a good skill it may have escaped.
>>4704959More servants to RUURUU BUREIKA on. Hoping Okita is among them, never enough Saber faces.
>>4704994You'll find out in an interlude.
>>4704998>>Assassin>Rolled 66, 27Best of luck, Quality 27 Assassin.Doubt WhatIs will let us derail it even more and roll for its survival.
>>4704975We know she has the 4th war servants. Assassin is good old Hundred Faces Hassan, she has a Caster Gilles and if she has an Archer it's Gil.
>>4705005>Servant Horror Show InterludePoor souls. They could have won for somebody very minor and normal grail war. It would have been story of hardships and friendship forged through time and in battle.And we still have bigger Interlude to go through.And I am probably not the only one who would love to see full scene of Rin facing Kirei.>>4705016We are yet to any signs of Caster Gilles.But I do agree that she is likely has all of them by now. I was simply looking at Rin`s teleportation roll and counting confirmed Alters.Well maybe not Gilgamesh yet.
>>4705027>And we still have bigger Interlude to go through.I keep meaning to get this done.It's halfway done still.
>>4705027>And I am probably not the only one who would love to see full scene of Rin facing Kirei.I can confirm you are not.
>>4705027I think it's safe to say she has all the fourth war alters, she did the same thing in Prototype after all. I wonder how Blackening works for spirits that are already have the whole corruption aesthetic going on, like Gilles.Does he somehow become even edgier?Does he get a pair of aviator sunglasses, a trenchcoat, and forty useless belts to emphasize how extra evil he is?
I wonder which grail container their souls would go to. We are kinda fucked if it goes to manaka at the same time it would be bad for it to go to sakura or illya.
>>4704959Either he eats them or spam Rule Breaker as we have 3 people with that NP
>>4705033hey QM, i wanna ask, you stated that if we decided to stick with Monica, we'd eventually go back to Fuyuki and find the whole place completely on fire and fucked, why'd that happen? Or is that a spoiler still
Rolled 1787 (1d10000)Dont mind it. Failing idiotic roll which nobody asked for for poor Assassin because I feel bad for those four.I bet later Orochi will regret eating them.>>4705033I have high hopes for it.Medea`s reaction to first Tamamo encounter ought to be really fun to read considering how you showed her reacting to Tamamo being mentioned prior.>>4705036Aoko hearing about Orphan Juice going to be pretty fierce.>>4705055Consumed ones probably went straight to Orochi.If Orochi brute forced ritual they probably gone after they are killed, if he has connected it to Grail Manaka probably gets them.We should check Zouken`s lair anyway after we are done.
>>4705027>Poor souls.>hardships and friendship forged through time and in battle.Heh, well now they only have two choices. Die and end up getting pulled by some blank slate character to fight at "Chaldea" which is a ponzi scheme that forces servants to work as free labour for a doomed timeline. Or join the Shinji faction and accompany us in tearing down the veil between the magical world and modern society. Being servant is suffering.
>>4705055I figure it's gonna be the worst case scenario, so they'll go into Sakura AND Illya and we'll have to race to storm the temple, secure the Greater Grail and figure out a way to save them.
>>4705061>Rolled 1787 (1d10000)Ooof.>>4705062Well. They could have been less popular 1-2 starts from FGO who has one mediocre but very dedicated artist on twitter/pixiv who creates one art a day of them.And now they are part of snake feeding video on youtube.
>>4705060That's still a spoiler.
"Abby, follow me. We're going to down to the Basement, I'm going to use my magecraft to open up the door, so we won't need to find the key." You want to find out what's in the basement before you leave to check out something else. What Abigail said was pretty spot on. If you wanted to hide something in this house, you'd definitely use the basement, and the missing key and locked door is only reinforcing your desire to want to see exactly what is inside the storage room."Magecraft? Are... you a wizard, mister?" Abby tilts her head in surprise at you suddenly revealing something that ought to be ridiculous to somebody to hear for the first time. Then again, Abby responds remarkably well to your revelation, it's probably not all that strange for somebody who has had their entire family disappear seemingly overnight to suddenly be told by the mysterious man who showed up to help them that they were a wizard. Of course, it's not like Abigail has probably read many books, considering her age and... well the time period, but this is the sort of thing that one could easily envision happening in a story."A Magus, but yeah. Pretty much a wizard. You... aren't going to try to get the town to lynch me or something, are you?" Abby tilts her head in confusion, unsure why you would even suggest such a bizarre thing. Looks like she's definitely unaware of the Witch Trials that might've happened in this town under normal circumstances. "Why... Why would I do that? Is your magic related to the devil or something? Are you going to summon a demon?" Abigail thankfully doesn't seem like she's about to restart the Salem Witch Trials on you, and you smile at her as you pat her head again. She smiles at you as you continue patting her on the head. You might be developing a habit of doing this."No, of course not! The magic I'll be using to open the door is one that simply uses some of my magical energy to manipulate the lock. I can either have it move directly with my energy or just overload it and break it." You explain that basic mechanics to Abby, just to make sure that she doesn't actually think that you're really using some sort of demonic magecraft in order to do something as simple as opening up a simple lock. "Can you lead me to the basement now?" Abby nods as she leads you back downstairs, and towards a plain looking wooden door. Completely unassuming, but still locked all the same.
You place a palm on the lock and will some of your magical energy inside it, carefully manipulating the metal of the lock so that it opens as it normally would if a key was placed within it. There's a loud clunk as the lock is undone. While you could just have overloaded it with magical energy and blown the lock into pieces, that's probably not the best first experience for somebody as superstitious as Abby for magecraft. You briefly wonder for a moment whether or not it would be possible to take Abigail out of this place with you. Nyarlathotep did mention that everything here was created perfectly as a result of Betty's powers, so if that were the case, then couldn't Abby leave safely? Well, she might not be able to leave of her own accord, but if you could take her out of this place, you're sure she'd have a better time. At least she wouldn't be alone. "Wow! Did that really unlock it?" Abby is looking at you with starstruck eyes. Not really the sort of response you'd expect from the girl responsible for one of the most well known witch hunts in human history to somebody using magecraft. As you open the now unlocked door to the basement, you peer into the darkness. You can't see anything down in the depths of the store room, but as you're about to think of a way around this, like a rune of light, Abby suddenly runs off somewhere. You're about to follow after her until she quickly returns to you, holding a torch in her two hands, and quickly hands it to you. "Thank you, Abigail, you really needn't have." You could have just used your magecraft, but it's clear that the girl wants to be of at least some assistance to you. You pat her head once more as she hands you the lit torch, and the two of you descend into the darkness. The basement is chillingly cold, and you can see Abigail suppressing a shiver as she follows after you. When you finish descending the stairs, you put the torch on a wall sconce, but before taking a look around, you remove your jacket and hand it to Abby. "Here. Wear this, you're cold, aren't you?" The girl looks surprised by your sudden caring action, and happily takes it from your hands."Thank you, mister!" Abigail is happy to wear your jacket, even if it's much too large for her. "What... What's your name, mister? You never told me." You almost frown at that. You'd never even told the girl your name. This is a situation that needs to be immediately rectified. You can't just let her keep going on without even knowing your name."Ah, how foolish of me. Sorry, I'm Shinji Makiri. But please, call me Shinji, alright?" You flash the girl a confident and reassuring smile. It's a little bit late for introductions, but better late than never.
"OK, Shinji!" Abby is clearly a little bit confused by your unfamiliar sounding name, but doesn't stumble when it comes to the pronunciation at all. In fact, as you take your eye of her to look around the room, you can hear the girl repeating your name quietly, you aren't sure if it's just so she doesn't forget it, or if she just enjoys saying it.The basement itself is fairly plain. A few boxes and barrels are stacked on top of one another, and there doesn't seem to be much out of ordinary, except for a single wooden mannequin standing proudly in place in the middle of the room. It strikes you as odd that such a thing should exist in the storage room, and it's... almost as if it is calling out to you. Like it wants for you to touch it.>Touch the mannequin.>Destroy the mannequin.>Inspect the mannequin.>Ask Abigail about the mannequin.>Leave the basement. This clearly isn't the way to find Betty.>Write-in...
>>4705082>>Touch the mannequin.
>>4705082Touch the mannequin
I just realized but maybe it was a dumb idea to kill Kirei before we could force him to give us all his command seals
>>4705086We have three power casters who could create pseudo-command seals for us. Caster was able to create fake ones for herself remember? Plus, if Ayaka wins over Gil he has an infinite supply of them behind his gates of babylon. He'll be willing to give them to us if Ayaka asks nicely for him to do it.
>>4705082>Touch the mannequin.
>>4705082>Touch the Mannequin
>>4705082>Touch the mannequin.>But first headpat Abby>You might be developing a habit of doing this.Yes
>>4705082>>Touch the mannequin>headpat abbyThe idea to bring her out of this place is a good one.
>>4705082>Touch the mannequin.>headpat Abby
Interlude Start."Saber. Berserker, and Caster. Congratulations, I've deemed you... powerful enough to serve me. If you serve me well, I shall share the Holy Grail with you after I claim it for myself, and your wishes shall all be granted. As for you, Lancer, Archer, Assassin and Rider..." The blue haired man has an evil grin on his face, and Lancer knows that there's simply no way that this is going to go well for any of the four Servants who clearly aren't as powerful as the three that the unbelievably powerful summoner favored. "You shall be put to death." Yeah, Lancer guessed something like that was going to happen.Berserker laughs from behind the blue haired man, the blonde girl is wearing a frankly ridiculous outfit, but that's not really of much concern to Lancer right now. "You four ought to lament your weaknesses, you call yourself heroes? You're pathetic!" The Berserker has no remorse for the condemned four. Meanwhile, the Saber is remaining quiet, a pained expression on his face. The most interesting reaction however comes from the Caster, a black haired man with a white robe. He seems to be observing not the condemned Servants, but the man condemning them to death, his eyes betraying a great sadness."I relieve you of your contract with me." Lancer and the others stumble backwards as they each feel their source of magical energy and anchor to the world being cut off. Saber draws his sword, prepared to jump into a fight with the four of them, but the Master holds out a hand to stop the man. "I appreciate your loyalty, Saber, however, it is uncalled for. I shall deal with the four of them myself." The man takes a step forwards, and an instinct in the back of Lancer's head is begging for him to flee, while the others might not have realized it yet, the mere act of looking at this guy is giving Lancer a sense that only death awaits those who would try to fight him head-on.Lancer spares a glance at his three fellow Servants who had been condemned to death. A tremendous wolf, Rider. A man with a skull mask and a large arm wrapped in bandages, Assassin, and finally, a weirdly dressed kid clutching a... gun that was holstered at his side. A revolver, if Lancer's knowledge of the future is correct. Even if the summoning was unusual, it seems that they were still summoned with the knowledge of this era. A real weird Archer, considering he isn't a bowman at all.Suddenly there's a loud noise, a small hole is blasted straight through the blue haired man's cranium, and he stumbles backwards "You were one confident son of a bitch, weren't ya?" Archer's gun is smoking as he still holds it pointed at the man who summoned them all. Assassin seems to have taken this as an opportunity to disappear, Lancer would call him a coward, but he'd really love being able to do the same right now.
"What a pathetic attack. To rely on modern weaponry to such a degree. You're not fit to be called a Heroic Spirit." The wound in the man's head instantly seals up, and he continues walking towards the four of them with a calm expression. Another five shots ring out, though this time, all they do is bounce off of the face of the man harmlessly. Each bullet flattening against his face before uselessly falling to the floor. "Make no mistake, your first attack only harmed me because I allowed it." He takes another step forwards, and Rider suddenly lets out a howl and leaps at the man with it's fangs-bared, only for the colossal head of a snake to emerge, with it's mouth wide open, causing the huge wolf to leap directly into its death. The snake head swallows the wolf whole before it returns to the body of the man, any presence of Rider vanished from the world completely. "Pathetic. Perhaps if you were Fenrir, you might've had a chance at harming me." The man is unimpressed by the efforts of the Servants.Lancer isn't going to stick around and wait for his turn, and already he begins scheming an escape. His Noble Phantasm was completely unusable in a situation like this, and he couldn't rely on his physical abilities either. Pleading was right out too, it meant that he had no choice. He was going to need to use his intellect. He'd managed to use it to get himself out of plenty of messes in the past, but maybe not one so one-sidedly hopeless as this one. He looks at the spear in his hand, a frankly worthless weapon for the situation. "Hey, 'Master'!" Lancer calls out to the man. "Are you really going to just kill us all without even letting us know your name? Honestly, for a God, you've got no manners at all." Lancer had made a bet. There's simply no way that this man in front of him could be anything other than a God, the level of power difference between him and the Servants was simply too great."Ha! Manners? What use is there in revealing my name to three dead men?" Lancer tries not to smile. So long as he can keep the bastard talking, the greater his chances of finding an escape route are. The room he's in is fairly plain if not well decorated. It's clearly the entry-hall of a palace of some sort. "However, I suppose that I may well reveal my identity to the three that shan't be consumed. I am Yamata-no-Orochi. Snake God of Dragons." Lancer keeps scanning the room with his eyes. There has to be a way out! Finally, his eyes settle on something, a single tile on the floor that was a single shade darker than all the rest of them.
"There is only one God, and you are not he." Assassin finally makes his move as he appears behind the god, without a contract, his disappearance is all but guaranteed, so it looks like he's made a decision in to take out a bastard treacherous god first, or at least he's trying to. "Zabaniya!" The Assassin crushes something in his huge arm, yet Yamata-no-Orochi has no response to the activation of a Noble Phantasm. "Impossi-" Assassin doesn't get to finish his last words as two smaller snake heads emerged from the body of the god, each grabbing a side of the unfortunate Assassin before pulling him into two pieces in a gory display of power. All while this is going on, Lancer creeps closer and closer to the one floor tile, he's betting it all on this!"Well shit. Looks like we're kind of screwed, huh, Lancer?" Archer has no emotion on his face as he stares death in the eyes. "I don't suppose you've got any bright ideas to survive this, have you?" Archer doesn't sound like he has any hope of surviving this situation, and Lancer, even though he probably would've had a better chance of survival if he just abandoned the gunman to his fate, a part of Lancer just can't do that. Archer is the only Servant in the room who might be able to survive if they could escape, so..."As a matter of fact, I do!" Lancer finally reveals his master stroke, and smashes his spear against the floor to reveal a secret passage! Lancer thanks each of the Gods as his hunch turns out to be correct, before he jumps down the passage and begins sprinting for his life. Archer was thankfully quite close to him already, so he manages to quickly follow after him before being consumed by the Snake God. "Just keep running, and one of us might make it out of this alive!" Lancer orders the Archer. The two of them can only hope that they are fast enough to actually escape the Snake God, and that this tunnel will lead them to freedom. Lancer's reserves of magical energy were fortunately high as a result of the summoning infusing them all with Magical Energy, but he wouldn't be able to last more than maybe six hours or so anyway without resorting to consuming the souls of humans. Still, that was a problem he'd face when it came up... If it came up.Intelude End.
>>4705082>Touch the mannequin.>Pat Abigail on the head yet again
>>4705166Aw, now i feel bad that Assassin and Rider didn't make it
>>4705166Dammit I hate how we can't be in multiple places at once. I want to save Billy and mystery Lancer from having to vampire Fuyuki people. We need to save them via. Ruuuruu knife.
>>4705166Man, this is maximum levels of poor doggo. Also Hassan I guess. I hope Archer and Lancer end up okay.
>>4705192Hassan is based don't look down on him. Also who knows, maybe there's a way to rip people out of his stomach ala UBW Shinji
>>4705166Billy, hands, and mr.elixir mixer I recognize
>>4705166damn hassan you dumb fuck, you should be aware that there may be more master to contract to.We need to save the 2 fuckers now, thank god alan slowed down time inside betty's mind, we should pay him some ice cream later as thanks.
Nice interlude WhatIs. But it means it's analysis time!>>Saber>Meanwhile, the Saber is remaining quiet, a pained expression on his face.>Saber draws his sword, prepared to jump into a fight with the four of themProbably not a bad man, probably not a Knight of the Round Table. Any ideas?>>Lancer>Lancer thanks each of the Gods Some Greek guy. Leonidas? Achilles? Perseus? Jason?>>ArcherBilly the Kid>>RiderI'm drawing a blank on a wolf who's not Fenrir, but it doesn't really matter.>>AssassinI blame >>4705061 for Hassan's death.>>Caster>the Caster, a black haired man with a white robe. He seems to be observing not the condemned Servants, but the man condemning them to death, his eyes betraying a great sadness.Nagato Tohsaka?>>Berserker>the blonde girl is wearing a frankly ridiculous outfitM-Mordred? Or maybe Berserker Nero?
>>4705166Also, seems this lancer has good luck for a change.
>>4705195The only two Hassan I like are Gramps and Sliced Onions.
>>4705203Wolf is likely the infused hessian lobo, part of a Shinjuku servant
>>4705203Paracelsus is the caster I bet
>>4705208Cursed Arm is based and Serenity is a qt
>>4705203Caster is definetly Paracelsius. Berserker could hilariously be Summer Nero for Saberface memes. It wouldn't make sense to have two Mordreds unless its an Alter. I hope Lancer is Leonidas, he's super based. Saber is probably Gawain.
>>4705217Whoops not summer nero, just looked it up. I mean, unless Orochi pulled one of the Alter saber faces I can't think of anyone matching that Berserker description.
>>4705211Ah yeah. Him being Lobo makes sense.>>4705214>>4705217Appearance fits to a T, but why would Paracelsus be sad at seeing Zolgen like this? >>4705220Heroic spirits are compatible with more than one class. Don't discount Nero just yet.
>>4705227Paracelcius and zolgen were friends back when paracelcius was still alive.
>>4705227>but why would Paracelsus be sad at seeing Zolgen like this?Because they were friends when Paracelsus was still alive.
>>4705227gee, why would Paracelsus be sad that his best bro has turned into a literal monster
Huh, that's what I get for not reading the wiki carefully enough. Paracelsus for sure, he'd welcome a change in Masters.
shouldn't a Ruler be summoned by now considering the 30 something servants running around?
>>4705203I would not have anything against Lancer being old man Hector.
>>4705227He knew zolgen iirc
>>4705240do the fuyuki system has the ruler thing?It's possible? Maybe it may take some days to trigger.
>>4705240Who's to say Alan isn't merely just a "human" but a "Ruler" that the Grail just went "eh fuck it, he counts as one". An apostle of Nyarly who's known to have conquered and ruled over other worlds and universes. This isn't the first time a Ruler with not so good intentions took part in a Grail War. At least that's my head canon, the less interesting choice is that Jeanne was waiting to possess a French exchange student studying in Japan who looks like her and slowly making her way to Fuyuki. Saberface memes need to come true after all.
>>4705247The Fuyuki System has been tampered and fucked with beyond recognition
>>4705244It would make sense if its hector considering how smart this lancer is.
>>4705250Probably not fucked with to be more orderly though.
>>4705264W-What if she just farted in Orochi's face. T-That would be quite inappropriate for a y-young lady wouldn't it? Even more inappropriate if a brown stain was left on her panties, heh.
>>4705264i just fappedstop showing me panties
Berserker might be Bunyan, fits the ridiculous outfit, sex and hair colour assuming it's the Riyo version. Could also be Jeanne Alter in her chuuni summer outfit. As that would fit the attitude as well. Saber might be Sumanai considering the roll, dragon affinity, immediate loyaltyfagging.Lancer is probably Hektor? He has a way with words and negotiations, his NP is too costly to use in a place like this, and he's very cunning. He also is from a polytheistic era. He's basically making use of his Tactics, Proof of Friendship and Disengage here pretty heavily.Billy has A rank Independent Action too, he should be alright. As Orochi can only claim powers via his Eater of Gods he got nothing all that special from Lobo or Hassan, as neither have any link to Divinity.
>>4705274I'm betting on Jason as Lancer, myself. He's a weak fighter fast-talking Orochi is exactly what he'd do and "Epiphany in the Jaws of Death" is pretty much exactly what happened here.Medea will be so HAPPY to see him!
>>4705274it was actually extremely stupid and a waste for him to kill them, could've just made them cannon fodder like Kirei
>>4705277Why? He immediately summoned new ones. Using your Servants as cannon fodder is bad tactics when you have 7 slots and infinite gacha retries.
>>4705276Jason would have more Kazuma/Canon Shinji tier decsisions and dialog. He'd throw Billy straight into Orochi's jaws if it would buy him 3 more seconds to flee. I think it might be Leonidas or Hektor. Either are pretty based. If it really, really is Jason. He deserves to be slowly and painfully tortured, then used as a foot rest.
>>4705282Its going ot be funny if it is jason, dude is really fucking sorry about what he did to everyone.remember that he died alone.
Its uncle Kariya's birthday
>>4705276>>4705282Jason's also a very likely option, but his NP would actually help here though as it scales the more villainous the opponent is. Jason through this should also have some kind of link to the two Argonauts currently active just a few km away and may have had the option to seek aid through it from them. While Medea actively hates him, Herc actually really likes Jason, as he was the one person who treated him as a man and a friend rather than a monster. Alcidies would especially favour Jason as he is the man Jason always saw him as.If it is Jason there will be some good interactions and trauma to work past with Medea. I'm also curious to see if Astrape Argo could pull forth any of the LB5 new Argonauts to give access to Orion and Achillies etc. But also, Chiyome being a neo Argunaut may have been the connection used by Orochi to summon Jason.
Also a reminder that jason didnt have that much control about what medea did, it was mostly Aphrodite.
>>4705278its a stupid plan because look what happened, he lost 2 servants because they were smart enough to bolt it, now its gonna comeback to bit him in the ass
>>4705297>his NP would actually help here though as it scales the more villainous the opponent isProbably not enough to overpower Orochi, and that'd make him even more useless to the snake. It's a point in favor of it being him.>>4705303Is it? He can fight us with 7 strong servants instead of 3. 2 weaklings running away doesn't change the balance of power nearly as much.
You pat Abby on the head one more time before you approach the strange mannequin. It's odd, there's very clearly some sort of magical effect to this thing, and there's a certain amount of malevolence to it that you can detect. Still, you're confident enough in your abilities as a magus that some cursed object shouldn't be capable of doing you much harm, so when you've finished approaching the mannequin you reach out and touch it. There's... no direct response to your touch, yet underneath the wooden skin of the mannequin, you can feel the beating of a heart.Upon noticing the heartbeat of the wooden construct, you jump away in surprise. "W-what's wrong, Mister Shinji?" Abby says with a voice full of concern at your sudden reflexive action. You take note that she's decided to start calling you 'Mister Shinji' and you aren't sure if you like it. It makes you feel old, despite physically only being a teenager still."That... That thing is alive." You take your eyes of the Mannequin for just a moment to make sure that Abigail is alright, but when you look back, the thing has disappeared entirely. "Where did it go?! Abby, did you see it move?"Abby frowns. "What thing, Mister Shinji?" She tilts her head in confusion at you. "You just walked into the center of the room, and held your hand out before you jumped backwards, is there... something wrong?" The girl's words confuse you for just a moment."I think there might be." You quickly get back to Abigail, standing behind her protectively. If you weren't worried about the abilities of your opponent to get being you and Abigail, you'd have stood in front of her, but as it is, you seem to be up against an enemy that is both a shapeshifter and something that is capable of removing the memories of whoever witnesses it. You seem to be an exception right now, but you don't know if that's going to be guaranteed forever. You scan the room for anything that might've changed, but you can't remember if there was anything different. This thing is clearly a monster or a demon of some sort, and it very likely means to cause you and Abigail harm. You start to back up towards the stairs with an arm protectively held around Abby. You can't kill what you can't see, and you don't just want to start trying to determine whatever random objects in the room aren't as they seem. That would just be playing into the hands of this shapeshifter. You won't solve anything by just making more debris for it to transform into.>Try to communicate with the shape-shifting entity.>Now is as good a time as any to practice some rune magecraft. A quick flame rune should do the trick.>Is there really any reason that you're down here now that it's proven to just be some monster? Just leave and go somewhere else. (Where?)>Try to lure the creature out. You're confident in your own skills that any attacks it attempts to make on you will be possible to counter.>Write-in...
>>4705311His NP specifically summons forth members of the Argo if they choose to offer their aid. They're supposed to use their own mana too. Herc is physically here and has a murderboner for the Orochi, he would have got that aid immediately. His Epiphany in the Jaws of Death should have given him the idea to try it at least.
>>4705317>Try to communicate with the shape-shifting entity.>headpat abby and explain to her
>>4705317Try to communicate with the shape-shifting entity.Was thinking rune but we don't want to start a witch trial if someone sees us or Abby tells someone
>>4705317>Use a tracking rune to determine its exact location>Try to communicate with the shape-shifting entity.
>>4705317>Apply Truth reinforcement to your eyes to view the entity clearly>try to communicate
>>4705317Supporting this >>4705335
>>4705317>Try to communicate with the shape-shifting entity.
That's the last update for today, I'm getting kinda tired.I hope you enjoyed it!
>>4705348I did, both learning more about Betty and the interlude. Goodnight WhatIs!
>>4705296He did the best he could. Berserker Lancelot was a baller Servant to have in that shitshow
>>4705296A foolish man, but his heart was in the right place. We neither met him nor talked to Sakura about him, did we?
>>4705317>Apply Truth reinforcement to your eyes to view the entity clearly>try to communicate>headpat abby further
>>4705348It was good learning about Betty. She was overshadowed by everyone around her and the humongous cast we recruited. Did you have bigger plans for her originally? Because it definitely feels like it. At some point it would be interesting to see what was the original outline for this quest if there was one, Alan and Betty are glaringly backgrounded even though they are seemingly important.
>>4705359yeah we probably should one day, at least make him a grave or something, he deserves that
>>4705363>At some point it would be interesting to see what was the original outline for this quest if there was oneIf we're talking what-ifs, I'd very much like to know what would have happened if we'd raped Sakura when Zouken asked us to. If I remember correctly, there was support for it after we put an airtight Truth-seal over the room the first time around. It is a choice I'm still thinking about, and I'm very, very glad we didn't. Even if it allowed the worm to flee and threaten the world now.>>4705365He certainly deserves an eulogy more than our own father ever did, as the only other Matou who wasn't a complete waste of a human being.
>>4705363Alan is the sort of character who works better in the background.As for Betty... she was meant to have a larger role in my plans, but her current relevance is acceptable.
>>4705388idk, I feel bad for Shinji's dad too, not to the point of Kariya but he still deserves some pity
>>4705363It's just the nature of the quest, there's lots of things going on so our choices largely decide what gets focus.You could say that Manaka was backgrounded because we had the option to interact more with her but ended up doing something entirely different. There's all kinds of plot threads to follow and people to interact with, it was possible to miss everything involving Masaki Town and even the entire Grail War if we made different choices.
>>4705296>In the fgo Zero event he chooses saving Sakura over revenge on Tokiomi, gets his arm ripped out, and runs away with Sakura.I mean, the worms and berserker fucked up his mind a lot, but he really was trying to save her. We really should at least give him a grave. I do wonder how Sakura feels about him though. Does she hate him for failing to save her?
>>4705388>I'd very much like to know what would have happened if we'd raped Sakura when Zouken asked us toShinji would've ended up as a far more brutal individual willing to sacrifice others to get his own way, though he'd also treat Sakura with even more love and care than he does in this version of events as a tradeoff.
>>4705406Thanks khv for ruining this
>>4705406i assume that extra love and care comes from being wracked with guilt about what he had to do. What about going to the Einzbern Manor to stop Kerry?>>4705405Extra stuff shows that his death essentially cemented that she can't go against Zouken at all so she did genuinely care about him, enough that his death made it clear to her that her situation is hopeless
>>4705395He raped a little girl for years and drowned his guilt in booze just because he was too afraid to do anything else. Blowing his brains out would have been preferable. He deserves zero sympathy. Kariya at least tried to go against Zouken, even if he was ineffectual about it.>>4705406>spoilerThanks for the answer. Not as bleak as I was afraid of, but I'm still glad this is not the timeline we went for.>>4705411???
>>4705405Didn't he try to kill Sakura's mom? I'd say just forget about him
>>4705424Actually I don't think he touched Sakura at all, it was only ever mentioned that Shinji and Zouken raped her>>4705424it is kinda bleak still
>>4705426the worms literally drove him insane and he wasn't in his right mind anymore, he gave Sakura and Rin's mom brain damage after he sperged out and choked her. Also, fun fact, Rin was the primary caretaker of her brain damaged mother, Kirei didn't give a shit about that kinda thing and just left her with a literal child
>>4705424Would be cool to see a cold calculating yandere seaweed.
>>4705426He'd already lost his mind by that point and was being heavily manipulated by Kirei while Zouken watched and laughed. I don't blame him at all.>>4705431Are you sure? I think he raped her until he diedand Shinji took over his "duties".No argument that it would have been pretty damn bleak, yeah.>>4705434More than not giving a shit, I bet Kirei laughed with Rin taking care of her.
>>4705426It's not that simple. He was manipulated by Kirei to go to the church where Tokiomi's dead body was, which made Aoi think he killed him, and she said that he didn't love anything, when he was suffering so much over loving her. Along with the worms and the toll of handling Berserker, he went fucking bananas and choked her. He then realized what he did, went into a mental breakdown, and tried to save Sakura, only to die in front of her.Pretty fucked up.
>>4705421Kerry is a little harder to answer without going properly in depth.But success or failure would've made allying with the Einzbern impossible if you escaped.Well, that's not to say there weren't a few failures where you are forced to become Illya's servant/slave for the sole intention of using you for an extra Servant summoning.
>>4705436Its never mentioned at all, Shinji raped Sakura all on his own so there's that too>>4705442ok maybe it was the correct call to not go to the Einzberns
>>4705440That's the tragedy of it, his heart was entirely in the right place, but he was manipulated into a position of maximum suffering. >>4705442lewd
>>4705442Imagine that happening and Shirou having to forever deal with the fact that he sent his best friend to death and Sakura has the only person she loves randomly disappear one day, jfc dude, now THAT'S fucking bleak
I was and still am a Kerryfag through and through, but I feel better than before knowing I made the right call to hold back from pursuing him. The events played out better than expected, though I suspect Acht and the Time Alter Maid Army will prove to be a nuisance. With Shirou and Illya and even EMIYA helping, it's only a matter of time before Kerry is healed of his horrible trauma. Once we bring Irisviel back from the Greater Grail and Kerry has wholesome sex at least once a week without being forced to have a child to Lesser Grail by the Einzbern, he'll be a forever changed man. And Shirou and EMIYA will both have a mom again... well, second mom in addition to Taiga.What's gonna happen to Taiga anyway? Is she going to be paired with Waver (instead of Reines?) or will she get to threesome with Kerry and Irisviel?Typing the post out, it was made clear to me:>Kerry + Taiga + Irisviel>Shirou + Saber + Morgan>EMIYA + Rin + CielEach of the Emiya men gets a threesome this way. Perfection.
>>4705445>Shinji raped Sakura all on his ownAre you sure? Crest worms require sustenance. OG-Shinji certainly enjoyed it, that little shit, but Zouken must have encouraged him, and I was under the impression this was specifically confirmed.>>4705450Definitely the right call not to follow Kerry. Talk about dodging a bullet. Though it would have been better if we hadn't promised Shirou only to immediately break that promise.
>>4705478I might have to reread some stuff but its never mentioned at all that Shinji's dad did anything to Sakura beyond worm pit stuff>Though it would have been better if we hadn't promised Shirou only to immediately break that promiseLiterally that was my biggest fucking problem with the whole fucking thing
>>4705466Taiga is for Waver coward. Also I want Rin
>>4705535having Rin fall for us would piss off dojo-shinji something fierce.
>>4705567that's why we HAVE to do it, to prove that we're completely superior to Shinji in every way imaginable
>>4705526I'll freely admit I may be misremembering, or it was my overactive imagination playing tricks with me even back then, but I was sure he'd done it before Shinji in order to satisfy the worms in her "lewd body".>>4705535Waver belongs to Reines.
>>4705585>Waver belongs to Reines.In more of a biblical slavery sense than a romantic one.
>>4705590>In more of a biblical senseYes
>>4705442Is there any other narrowly avoided bleak timeline that left you an impression? Or maybe I should ask again after the war?
>>4705442With our "outsider" affinity we would have definitely ended up getting them a Foreigner, since that seems to be the class that fits us the best. That, or possibly summoning someone that has a similar ability to bestow ridiculous enchantments to literally anything. Just that power could've probably gotten the Einzbern the biggest possible buff to their side.
>>4705535>I want RinAnd I want a comfy monogamous relationship with our sister but you can't always get what you want.
>>4705535>Also I want RinPersonally I want Medea. Touko would also be a nice alternative.
>>4705662>>4705685If could only choose one girl, I'm going Sakura no question. Lucky for you two, Sakura and Medea are hitched to Shinji for life now
>>4705595If it was a biblical arrangement, Reines would belong to Waver, not the other way around.
>>4705166Thanks for trying, Hassan.I suppose Waver`s group will be the easiest to run into so strays will go to them.>>4705317>Try to communicate with the shape-shifting entity.
You know, we talk a lot about waifus, but what about the people we like that don't want to rape us?I for one really want to see Monica again, as we've only seen her sporadically in the time before the war, and we've missed a ton of time with her due to Manaka.I've always appreciated her sisterly role in Shinji's development, and rereading the beginning of the quest has only made me like her more.
>>4705750Monica was my first choice as wife then the others
>>4705767I've never really seen her that way, for as long as we've known her she's tried to make sure we were safe and didn't make the same mistakes that she did.With the nature of our relationship being the way that it is for so long, I just don't see a romance like that going anywhere.
>>4705359>>4705365We should also tell sakura about what he did, the girl needs to know that at least some of her family from this side was not a full piece of shit.
Also nothing stops Waver to having a harem, the only thing that may stop him is his gay boner for iskandar.
>>4705791she kinda knew? Also he didn't do it for completely altruistic reasons, he did want to save Sakura yeah but he also wanted Aoi, he likely wanted Aoi more than he wanted to save Sakura and he viewed saving Sakura as a way to prove that he was better than her husband
>>4705796Speaking of Iskandar, I think we have the ability to Unblacken Altered Servants under the same principle of our healing causing wounds to disappear.
>>4705804Hm, our healing is kinda like Orihime's isnt it?
>>4705811It's pretty accurate, Abigail Williams is dead yet Betty has effectively created a fully realized copy of her.The implications of that are terrifying though, because she can create something that looks and acts like how she remembers a person to such a high degree that it even possesses a similar soul.She's insanely broken, as the only limit on her power is her understanding of it. If she was incarnated and allowed to grow normally, her ability to conceptualize things she could create would increase as her mind develops.She could create fully realized human beings out of nothing, and even create entire planets if she had the knowledge.>>4705814In terms of how it works yes, but why it works that way is entirely different.
>>4705827>If she was incarnated and allowed to grow normally, her ability to conceptualize things she could create would increase as her mind develops.>She could create fully realized human beings out of nothing, and even create entire planets if she had the knowledge.I see, let's make good use of this ability if the time comes, we can't let our daughter do bad shit with it.
>>4705828It's something we're going to have to impress upon her to be responsible with, especially when it comes to making sapient beings.
I swear, one of our daughters is going to grow up to be a giant Wyrm with the ability to rewrite reality and the other has the completely unrestricted ability to create anything she can think of.We better not fuck up and give either of them reality destroying daddy issues.
>>4705841I'm extremely interested in what the biological spawn of a dragon-esque super mage that has 2 souls forcibly mangled and fused together would look like. Guess it depends on the mother.>We better not fuck up and give either of them reality destroying daddy issues.Pretty easy to do honestly, just don't be a bad father
>>4705841>we have 2 demiurge-tier daughtersit's hilariouswe need to headpat then more.
>>4705837She does already care a lot about what she creates, so thats good.
>>4705827>The implications of that are terrifyingThey are. And not to mention what happened to her original parents and self. We might want to look into a way to unlink her from Azathoth after she's incarnated, it will be extremely hard to lead a happy life with that caliber of reality-altering.And we should be extra sure we don't create a bait with a soul similar to Justeaze.
Consider this: Betty can create anything but she lacks understanding to do so and being a Servant limits her. We are currently inside her mind solving the situation. Should we help her here enough we just got ourselves pocket dimension and now we know how to guide her with command spell or without it to create truly uniqie things.She might be able to create not just false sacrifice and average summons but a truly original strong new beings with our guidness. Its not far fetched for her with a help to create new being loyal to her and which overshadow even Orochi as he is right now.
>>4705901And as for such being that we can show her and it is possible for her and the world to understand among those from Nasuverse we know templates for Types and Sefar. And all those summons are loyal to her and Azathoth first with little of their own agenda.
>>4705901>Should we help her here enough we just got ourselves pocket dimension>create new being loyal to her and which overshadow even Orochi as he is right now.Not everything should revolve around powergaming. Do we really want her to grow up into a lonely creator god?>>4705907>And all those summons are loyal to her and Azathoth first with little of their own agenda.An army of willing slaves is terrifying too. They won't be just summons, but full beings with soul and all.
>>4705909Do you really want her to witness people she likes getting eaten by a big snake?Sefar is interesting here because Altera can be Foreigner too. And Altera is a good person Shinji should know very close because of meta knowledge of Extella.
>>4705913>Do you really want her to witness people she likes getting eaten by a big snake?So that's the false dilemma you're going with? Either she goes full mind of steel and starts creating disposable uber-powerful puppets, slaves of her will with souls or Orochi eats people? Really? What changed in the last five minutes that makes you think our plan isn't going to work?
>>4705915Right back at you.Why do you assume she will ever become lone creator god with no regards to her creations just because she can create them on a whim? She has been good girl and look up to us. We are yet to mind of steel something and a good influence in general. So I fail to see how creating some form of insanely strong knight-protector for her somehow makes her go mad with power.
>>4705918You're not thinking things through (and you didn't answer my question). She can love her creations and still be a lonely creator god. Remember, it's not dumb animal pets you want her to create, but full beings on par or even superior to a human. And she can create copies of existing humans as well. She could create a copy of us who follows her around and gives her infinite headpats, and that's a relatively benign use of her powers. What happens if she's ever bored, or sad, or angry? Really, is there any reason to encourage her to go down this path other than autistic powergaming?
>>4705925her potential power wont go away, to be honest.probably
>>4705926All the more reason to teach her to be very, very responsible with it and not get in the habit of creating slaves on a whim.Or perhaps try to figure out a way to make Azathoth leave her and avoid the temptation entirely.
>>4705925>>4705927Ok, you have convinced me we are going Makiri manmode on everything.
>>4705160>BerserkerOh.WhatIs...You didn't actually do what I think you did, did you?I think I have an idea as to who they are.
>>4705317>Now is as good a time as any to practice some rune magecraft. A quick flame rune should do the trick.Standard monster slaying practice.Kill it with fire.So...Saber: Siegfried/Gawain/Lancelot? (Loyaltyfag)Archer: Billy the Kid (Based.)Lancer: Jason/Hector (Highly based.)Rider: Lobo (RIP Doggo)Assassin: Cursed Arm Hassan (at least you tried.)Caster: Paracelcus (A total bro.)Berserker: I don't want to reveal my theory in case QM changes it.I wonder who the replacement four are.
>>4705956>>4705975I wonder if Jannu alter is going to call all of her attacks with cringe chuuni monologues
>>4705977I don't think it's Jannu Alter.I think we may have a special guest appearance from another Fate quest.
>>4705978loli hitler is just scuffed nobu
>>4705975>>4705978fucking team manaka-alberich going to eat fucking grandpa for power up
Well hello there Galatea
>>4705990funsize greekoid mecha
>>4705990time to do very greek thing
>According to Ovid, after seeing the Propoetides prostituting themselves, Pygmalion declared that he was "not interested in women", but then found his statue was so beautiful and realistic that he fell in love with it.Such a based man ahead of his time
>>4705983If it is Loli Hitler is it even worth rulebreaking her and keeping her around?I guess she'd enjoy taking over Britain but she is evil as shit.And Shinji isn't a total simp like Alberich.>>4705986>Alberich>ever not jobbingI doubt Manaka would care about him in the slightest. She's interested in special people and true heroes.Not uppity homunculi Kira Yoshikage lookalikes with no morality at all.
>>4706000her name and myth is "white" because ancient greek masturbated in those statues all the timethat story is a part of social satirebukkale servant
>>4706007Loli hitler is fine as a character, but her ability to draw out screeching autists is really bad for /qst/ threads.>>4706008Pygmalion did originally carve her from ivory as well
>>4706011Let's just hope she wants to fuck Siegfried(?) instead of Shinji.That should keep the autists at bay.Maybe.Alternatively we add her to the growing collection of daughterus.
Loli Hitler? What are you guys talking about?
>>4706024There was once a quest called Fate/City Akeldama.It featured Hitler who by the power of their Noble Phantasm had turned into their ideal form.A blonde haired blue eyed little girl with the power of anything WW2 Germany ever made.She didn't job very often and that made her best girl.
>>4706025>best girlthat was post HF sakura who never cared for her children
What can we do after we've done with the war anyway?Here is my list.>Take over Britain>Aylesbury Vavesti>Go after Altrouge>Go speedrun Strange Fake>Fate/EXTRA>EXTRA CCC>EXTELLA>Fate/City Akeldama (lol)>Fate/Awakening Mirror (LOL)>Speedrun a vanilla F/SN timeline>Fate/Grand Order>Turn Merlin into a girl>Deal with the Types>Have children with wife(wives)>Have children with Alaya>Have children with ORT
>>4706030On a scale of 1-10, how angry would Isekai Shinji be if he arrived at the scene when Alberich was murdering Shirou and Sakura?
>>4706037With or without knowing about Rins fate and fully mindraped Medusa?
>>4706043Didn't Rin escape?Also I think he'd be just as angry at Medusa herself considering she accepted the mindrape.
>>4706047wasnt she offscreened by somebody?not sure Shinji would had it in him to kill Medusa and her sisters
>>4706050I can't remember.I thought she used the Second to escape.As for Medusa.Rulebreaker exists.
>>4706051would you take his shitty sister in?
>>4706054Yes, if only to have all the proper Oni bully the shit out of her
>>4706051We could let Shirou kill Alberich by passing him a manifested truth sword.See how he likes fighting against a lightsaber.
>>4706058ego death alberich by making him take loli hitlers np
>>4706062Best plan.She wouldn't even be stronger than our current daughters.
>>4706062You really want to summon Titania?
>>4706064One of our daughters is potentially trillions of times more powerful than Beast II and the other is the invincible Dragon Queen of Truth.Fuck, even if she was actually a fairy then Arc and Morgan would easily keep her in check.
>>4706067A quick reminder that Alitheia is probably single handedly capable of reverting the world to the Age of Gods.She also had Arc on the ropes and the only reason we didn't all die in that fight was because we were beating up a scared and confused newborn baby girl.Older Alitheia will probably be an Ultimate One.
>>4706070True. Teenage temper tantrum Alitheia could easily murder us all.And goddamnit, I just realized Nyarly said he couldn't tell us the True Names of Orochi's Servants but not that he couldn't say anything at all. We should have asked for physical descriptions, Shinji would have recognized them.
>>4706033I want to meet best girl Meltryllis myself.So for me it's Extra CCC.
>We could've gotten a dog for the family.Poor Lobo.Fucking Wormpa.I can't believe he vored the dog.Fuck him.Can we still save Lobo?
>>4706093I believe Fate logic is that you are immediately turned into mana after being vored. Shirou had every opportunity to use RB inside of Sakura arguably, but assumably he was quickly digested after he see's Rin being tortured by Sakuras insides. By the time we get to Orochi and beat him Lobo would have long turned into Mana excrement.
>>4705975>Paracelcus (A total bro).Didn't he put a killing curse on Misaya to fight in the Grail War in Prototype and killed her father, and then the curse took affect when she lost against Saincraid turning her into a mindless corpse (fallen)? Paracelsus with Manaka influence is almost like Kirei levels of sick.
>>4706096I thought Sakura kept everyone in her vore dungeon forever.Also it's a conscious effort to digest some people.Gil was strong enough to tear his way out of Sakura and probably would have if he was wearing his armor.We weren't immediately digested by Sakura's vore world.That kind of gives me hope about being able to resist being vored and immediately digested by Kingprotea or melted and absorbed into Meltlilith.If we were to get involved in CCC of course.We should be able to truth shield ourselves from Passionlip cubing us. But Violet might be able to Za Warudo and Assimilate us.Kazuradrop is only good at eating other Sakura so she's not a threat by herself.Then again we were on a time limit.
>>4706100She molested his soul and turned him into a cunt.It's not fair to blame him for that.He was basically an Alter.
>>4706104A time limit in Sakura's insides I should say.So I doubt we're totally immune to being digested into mana.
>>4706107>A time limit in Sakura's insides I should say. How long can we last before having to pull out? We should go inside her, just to make sure.
>>4706121Currently she's got extra strong digestion due to nullification.Nrvnqsr didn't last a minute with 666 lives.She'd probably turn us into mana in 10 seconds flat.
>>4706124You may have missed a joke there, friend.
>>4706130I just didn't want to dignify your innuendo.
How are we all doing today thread?Calling vote in... 40 minutes?I got something to do first.
On the second thought Orochi probably killed the most useful members of his team.>SaberLikely Siegfried since it was Orochi catalyst.Loyalty already shaking and his bad match versus all of our frontline fighters.>LancerI hope it is Hector.He would have been brains of Orochi`s team. But now he can help us with siege of Temple and ex-Einzbern castle.>ArcherBilly the Kid is fine.I would have prefered Man with No Name if we ever going to get some thing out of City Akeldama-Fate/Awakening Mirror.>RiderDumb humanhater fleamutt would have been most loyal follower of Orochi.And he killed him lmao.>AssassinWeak as he is Cursed Arm is still one of the best Assassin for assassination job.Would be quite funny if Orochi rolled another Hassan afterwards.>CasterNicest Guy You Ever Meet/Twisted Sociopath Caster.Not only the most likely traitor but worse Caster than few non-Servants we know.>A rare magus who surely values humanity and loves children. That is Paracelsus von Hohenheim. However, the possibility of him suddenly abandoning his entire creed and falling into injustice is by no means zero. For example, what if there was a situation where he comes across someone connected to the Root itself that he was aiming for?>BerserkerI am willing to bet it is Berserker Nero who succumbed to her madness. Likely very similar to Caligula right now.>>4705990We should really ask Betty to give spare puppet bodies new life to get eldritch maids.>>4706033>>4706037>Fate/Awakening Mirror (LOL)Bitchslapping Einzberns and Odin would have been worth just for pre-battle trash talk alone.>>4706191Hey, WhatIs, do you mind telling us that were the options for critfails and critsuccesses for Orochi?We were pretty close here >>4704810
>>4706210>Hey, WhatIs, do you mind telling us that were the options for critfails and critsuccesses for Orochi?Any Critfail would've accidentally summoned Susanoo-no-Mikoto, who would've possessed one of the other Servants, probably Saber.Any Crit Success would've summoned a powerful Servant with Divinity or divine blood that fit into the rolled class container.>I would have prefered Man with No Name if we ever going to get some thing out of City Akeldama-Fate/Awakening Mirror.Too high quality for the roll
>>4706210>Berserker Nero is crazy like irl Male NeroBased. I know some puritan anons might want to revert Nero to her normal genki-girl self from Extra but I'd like to see this crazy take of her stick around. Keep in mind that irl Nero was one of the most sadistic and debaucherous Emperors Rome had ever seen. It would be a shame if she tied us up and.... did things.
>>4706227Damn, I almost got both in a single roll. I'll try harder next time, I swear.
>Try and communicate and headpat>>4705324>Try to communicate>>4705346>>4705733>Use a tracking rune to find it>Try to communicate.>>4705335>>4705341>>4705781>Apply truth reinforcement to eyes>Try to communicate>>4705338>Apply truth reinforcement to eyes>Try to communicate>Headpat further>>4705361>Kill it with fire>>4705975
>>4706227Oh. Damn.Wish superboss was part of the plan from get go now so this would have happened naturally. Such an opportunity missed. And it works so well thematically and we have Tamamo already.And can you also tell which Servant would Touko summoned if we sweet-talked her into taking part in the war? Would that change a lot?
>>4706257Touko would've summoned whatever Servant she wanted to summon, honestly. She's got enough connections to practically secure whatever catalyst she wants.
Hmm, Orochi sure isn't rolling over and dying for us then. How sad *strums bowstring*>>4706210>Bitchslapping Einzberns and Odin would have been worth just for pre-battle trash talk alone.Odin was actually competent though. I don't think he'd let himself get maneuvered into an overwhelming confrontation very easily, his master's insufferable arrogance notwithstanding.
>>4706261Well, that`s understandable.Just thought you might had something special for her we never get to know.Super VIP premium top servant gacha is cool tho.>>4706264Yeah, he is going to love it. Can`t wait to tell.
>>4706037he would literally burn down the city to try and find Alberich, he would not care about anything anymore. Also didn't realize how edgy that quest was
You consider your options here, while you don't know whether or not the creature in this room is actually intelligent, you suppose that it can't really hurt to try to communicate with it. That being said, it's unlikely that it will bother to even pay attention to your attempts to communicate, so you have an idea. You take a handful of stones from an open crate of them. Pebbles that were likely for use as a building material that must've been left over from some construction effort. Why they would bother to store pebbles is beyond you, but for now, it's helpful. You cut one of your fingers and trace a Berkano rune on one of the pebbles before you infuse the rune with some of your magical energy and toss all of the stones on the ground."Mister Shinji... what are you doing?" Abby sounds worried by your sudden decision to injure yourself, but you give her a reassuring smile. You don't want to worry her with some simple rune magecraft, after all. You're still keeping an eye out for anything that might attack, but whatever this shapeshifter is, it seems like it is happy with just observing you for now, and isn't showing any signs of attacking. Though you aren't leaving yourself open to any attacks regardless, and you're prepared to pounce backwards to save Abby from any attacks immediately if you realize anything is wrong."I'm just using some magic, Abby, if I had ink or some other means to mark the stones on me, I would've used that, but it's not like I've got a limited supply of blood to use." Honestly, with how fast you heal from any wound, a tiny amount of blood loss is nothing at all. Abby seems to be happy with your explanation for now, so you turn your attention back to the stones on the floor as they start to form into an arrow shape, pointing at an angle and hovering ever so slightly upwards to show you your target, a single unlit wax candle that has melted onto the sides of one of the crates. It's so unassuming that you never would've noticed it otherwise. "Alright, the game is up. Whatever or whoever you are, you can stop with the hide-and-seek act." You start talking to the candle, you can only imagine how strange you must appear to Abby right now. "If you can hear me, and you're actually alive, give me some sort of sign, otherwise I'm going to melt that candle into a puddle."The candle suddenly lights itself at your threat. Doesn't look like this shapeshifter, whatever they are, is capable of speech. It also seems that it doesn't have the ability to disappear for as long as you're looking at it. You don't know if that applies to blinking, but that shouldn't be a problem anyway, it's unlikely that you and Abby are going to blink at the exact same time.
>>4706070>Older Alitheia will probably be an Ultimate One.reminder that the spawn of isekai!Shinji and Arc would become a true Ultimate One for Earth
"Good, well, it seems like you can understand English at least." You hadn't once bothered trying to talk in Japanese in this mental world, considering that nobody here would know the language, least of all Abby. "Now, would you be willing to answer a few questions? Flicker once for no, and flicker twice for yes." You realize that you're about to play twenty questions with a candle, but such strange occurrences seem to be becoming natural to you at this point.The candle flickers twice. Seems that it's prepared to answer a few questions about itself. Whatever this thing is, you realize a few things. It's likely been created as a result of Betty's powers, and that if you had something like this available to you as a magus, you'd effectively be able to spy on anybody you wanted to. A shapeshifter that can instantly relocate itself with the ability to erase memories from people's minds, you aren't sure if you're a special case or if it is just something it can only do to the non-magical humans, but it would probably be the greatest spy familiar possible if it was capable of even altering the minds of magi.>Ask Yes or No questions>>"Do you wish me harm?">>"Did Betty create you?">>"Do you want to come with me as my familiar?">>"Can you take on a form more capable of communication?">>"Can you take me to Betty?">>"Do you know who I am?">Write-in...
>>4706294>"Are you that first being Betty summoned few days ago?">"Do you know who I am?">"Can you take me to Betty?>"Do you want to come with me as my familiar?"Make an offer he can't refuse.
>>4706294>"Can you take on a form more capable of communication?">"Do you know who I am?">"Do you wish me harm?">"Do you remember Betty?">"Did she create you?">"Can you take me to her?">"Do you want to come with me as my familiar?"At least it doesn't seem to be a Weeping Angel.
>>4706293If you're gonna go that far, might as well go all the way with an Alaya baby.
Calling in 30.
Oh wow, guess this wasn't a popular update.I can't write unless one actually has popular support, guys.
>"Are you that first being Betty summoned few days ago?">"Do you know who I am?">"Can you take me to Betty?>"Do you want to come with me as my familiar?
>>4706340I can switch to avoid stalemate.>Oh wow, guess this wasn't a popular update.Fatigue is settling in.
>>4706340>Oh wow, guess this wasn't a popular update.Don't know what happened, we've been shitposting all day.
>>4706351Votes with lots of options to parse through and combine are always going to experience a drop in engagement when compared with simple votes.
>>4706294>>4706305+1 plus>headpat abby
"Alright, let's start shall we?" The candle flickers twice. "Now you're getting it." It seems like this being is more than happy to at least play along with some questions for now, and it does appear to have some form of higher intelligence if that's the case. "For my first question, are you capable of taking a form that would make communication between us easier?"The flame flickers on and off twice, giving you a positive response. "Mister Shinji... why are you talking to a candle?" Abby doesn't seem to have gotten things yet, so you lean down and whisper into her ear, taking care not to take your eyes off of the candle."It's a shapeshifter, Betty. It's not actually a candle, it's alive." The girl tenses up a little at being told that the candle is actually alive, and that you haven't actually just lost your mind and started talking to random objects. Regardless, you turn your attention back to the candle. "Well then... will you?" It flickers once. "Really?" It flickers twice. Just your luck to meet a sassy candle. Whatever. "Fine, then my next question, do you know who I am?" The candle flickers once, so you decide to introduce yourself to it properly. This is really a very one-sided feeling conversation, but whatever. "I am Shinji Makiri, I am a Magus from the outside world beyond this world, and the Master... as well as Adoptive Father, of Elizabeth Parris, the girl who created this world." You even reveal the fact that the world is a fake one to the being, if it wasn't aware already. It isn't a human, so it might just be aware of the truth behind the reality it currently occupies."...Adoptive Father, Mister Shinji? And... what do you mean by girl who created this world? What are you trying to say about Betty?" Abigail is understandably confused about your words to the candle shapeshifter, but you decide that you'll have to tell her in a moment about the truth behind everything in this world. You can't just keep her believing whatever she currently thinks about her circumstances, and you don't intend to leave her all alone in Betty's inner world like this. A chilling thought occurs in your mind for a moment. If Betty is capable of literally creating souls like this as a result of her true power, and has about two thousand human souls in this mental realm. If her soul was to be taken in by a lesser grail, then it may just be the case that they would immediately be filled to their very brim with the power needed to enact the Heaven's Feel. Of course, as far as you can tell, Betty's true power through the Authority of Azathoth is one that makes the Manifestation of the Soul capable of being brought about through the Heaven's Feel look like a tiny speck in comparison.
I'll... tell you in a moment, Abigail." If you want to take Abby to the world outside this one, or at least attempt to do so, she's going to need to know that this world isn't actually the real world, despite it being a perfect recreation of the Town of Salem. "For now, I need answers. Do you wish me harm?" You ask the candle, and it... flickers three times. "What the hell is that supposed to mean?! Maybe?!" You yell at the candle, and it flickers twice. "Right, well at least that means you haven't made your mind up yet. Next question." You take a deep breath. Dealing with this candle is starting to get rather annoying. "Do you Remember Betty?" Two flickers, good. "Did she create you?" Two flickers again, excellent. You want to know just what this thing is, but you suppose that you won't be able to get an actual answer to that question unless you started cycling through letters of the alphabet, and you have no time to waste playing Ouija Board with a candle.If this thing can remember Betty and being created by her, then maybe it knows where she is! "Can you lead me to Betty?" If the candle can actually lead you to Betty, then that means it was all worth it, right? Of course, it's a bit of a long shot that this candle would know where Betty is, but still, not like you have many other leads right now.A long hesitation before the candle responds, it flickers twice, though it seems unsure somehow, the flame of the candle dimmer than it was on the previous ignitions. Is it... nervous? Or is it unsure? You can't really tell from the body language of a candle how it is actually feeling.
"Well, in that case, would you like to come with me as my familiar from now on? I'm sure that you don't want to remain in this world, and especially not trapped in the basement like this." You smile at the candle, can it even see you? It can obviously hear you, so it must be able to see you, right? There's a very long delay before the candle answers this final question for you, until finally it flickers twice, seems like it isn't content with being stuck in this basement for the rest of its existence. It clearly can't escape the basement by itself, after all. "Excellent!" You take a step forwards towards the candle before picking up an old brass candle holder and inserting the shapeshifter inside of it. "I'll figure out the specifics of linking your existence to my own magical energy after you lead me to Betty, alright?" The candle flickers twice. You're glad that you came down here, if this creature really is willing to be your familiar, then that means you've gotten yourself a very powerful familiar indeed. You actually don't even know what it is, but it seems strong, truth is that you doubt anyone on the planet knows what this thing is except maybe Betty. "Come on Abby, we need to get going." You start to ascend the stairs, before you stop. If you're going to be heading to Betty now with the guidance of the candle, then that might mean that this will be the last opportunity you have to explain things to Abigail.>Explain to Abigail on the way to finding Betty.>Stop and take moment to properly explain everything to both Abigail and the candle.>Don't explain anything.>Write-in...
>>4706425>>Stop and take moment to properly explain everything to both Abigail and the candle.
>>4706425>Stop and take moment to properly explain everything to both Abigail and the candle.
>>4706425>>Stop and take moment to properly explain everything to both Abigail and the candle.>headpat abbyHow much time passed in the mind world as of now QM?
>>4706433In total about 45 minutes.
>>4706425>>4706433+1At 30:1 accel, we should be somewhere between 1 and 2 minutes.
>>4706435so 1 and a half minutes outside more or less.
Since we are going to play part in Dark Six no matter what and we have a task of taking over misty Albion should we intervent in power struggle in Aylesbury?If we act fast after the war we might still have enough time to escalate conflict prematurely or bait some more unlucky Dead Apostle Ancestors to us to kill off earlier.Putting an end to Vampire Question.
>>4706448My plan is to send an invite to the ritual to ORT.
Calling in 30 minutes.
>>4706425>Stop and take moment to properly explain everything to both Abigail and the candle.>Headpat abby
>>4706450Thats evil. I like it.But Touko and Mordred probably both want to kill Rizo personally.
Candle-kun >>> Orochi
>>4706495I wonder what kind of creature it is. Can't remember anything Lovecraftian that could take the form of objects when not observed or affect perceptions like this.
>>4706539(Why the fuck did I type ACCEPT. I meant SUPPORT. Though I suppose you could say this means I accept this decision as something we are going to do)
>>4706524The only species I could think off with strong shapeshifting capabilities.But it is clearly not one of them.Probably OC type of creature or even lesser outer god/great old one created by accident.For all we know it could function as Betty`s version of Shrike but related to perception and remembering. Considering story of her disappearance it is not that unlikely.
>>4706547>For all we know it could function as Betty`s version of Shrike but related to perception and remembering. Considering story of her disappearance it is not that unlikely.Yeah, OC like that is pretty likely indeed.
"Alright, you two. I'm... going to need to explain something important to the both of you before we go any further." You reach the top of the basement stairs and stop walking. Abby stops behind you and tilts her head in confusion. This is going to be painful, you can already tell."What's that, Mister Shinji?" Abby's voice is so sweet and innocent, it only magnifies the pain that you are already feeling in your heart about having to reveal such a terrible truth to this girl."This world... it's not real, but... at the same time, it is." You don't want her to go running off with the idea that she doesn't exist at all. Because she does, it's just... very complicated, considering everything that's going on here."What... What are you saying?" Abigail really doesn't seem to get it. You put a hand to your head and sigh deeply. Abby isn't going to enjoy this. "I'm saying that up until a week ago, you didn't exist, Abigail. Or rather, this version of you didn't exist. You're a real person, of course, and your memories are completely identical to the other Abigail Williams, as is your body, soul and powers, I presume." She's a perfect copy of Abigail Williams, so it stands to reason that she should have the exact same abilities, even if she has no Outer God to activate them."I didn't... exist? Powers? What are you talking about, Mister Shinji?" Abigail doesn't seem to understand what you meant by powers, but you believe that this girl should still have all the powers of the other Abigail Williams as she would still be a Silver Key and would still have just as much ability to open up gates in space and time to travel between, that wasn't a trait that she managed to acquire through demonic possession, that's something that she was born with. Of course, without a proper teacher in magecraft, or a fraction of an Outer God possessing her, she'd never be able to actually utilize those powers of hers. It's not like she truly needs to be possessed by Yog-Sothoth in order to become powerful though. Even if her powers are inexorably linked to Yog-Sothoth, you highly doubt that it is going to interfere in the affairs of Azathoth and Nyarlathotep, meaning that this Abigail may in fact be free to call upon the full extent of her strength without fear of the being that would otherwise use it as an opportunity to possess her... maybe. Outside of Qliphoth Rhizome, she should be capable of doing basically everything her Foreigner self is capable of doing. With proper training though, she could easily be far more dangerous than her Foreigner self. If taught to properly weaponize her ability to create portals in time and space, she could dump somebody into the vacuum of space, or the core of a star instead of just using them to slap people with tentacles.
"It's complicated, Abby. But just... know that you're real and alive, and if I can, I'm going to take you out of this fake town, to see Betty." The town itself is of course also mostly real despite the fact that it shouldn't exist, but it would probably be easier for Abby to accept if she just thought that this was a fake town or something. "You too, Candle." You really need to start thinking of a better name for this thing if it's going to be your familiar. Maybe after you've studied it a little more you'll be able to think of a better name for it."Oh... Where are we going to go?" Abby still doesn't really sound like she knows what you're talking about, and you pat her on the head once more to try to reassure her. She's taking this all remarkably well, but then again, the girl is just a child, telling a child they don't exist for whatever reason would almost certainly elicit the exact same confused response you got from Abby."We're going to go to the future. About four hundred years from now." Abby laughs a little, thinking that your words are a joke. Seems like she doesn't really get it at all, of what's really going on here. To her, all that's really happened is you went into a room and the spooky presence that was in there faded away, and then you magically unlocked a door and started talking to a candle. She's not really got all that much of a reason to believe you when you tell her that nothing is real and her life is a lie. You feel bad."Don't be silly, Mister Shinji! If we were to go that far into the future, we'd both be dead... right?" Abby seems to have misunderstood you, so you shake your head. The girl... well, you'd feel bad if you said she wasn't very bright, because you know that's not actually the case, but she's just... maybe a little bit too naive, that's it. Then again, maybe you're the naive one to expect a twelve year old who has never experienced magecraft or the supernatural before meeting you to easily be able to grasp the concept of not actually existing. "I mean that we're going to physically... travel through time, so to speak." You of course aren't but seeing as Abby doesn't seem to be able to really grasp the concept of not truly existing very well right now, it's about the best you think you'll be able to do to accommodate her to the changes of the 21st Century. Of course, you're still betting on actually being able to drag Abby and Candle-kun out of this inner world with you, but judging from what you know of souls and of Betty's power now, it should be possible, at least. "Do you understand?" The damn candle flickers twice, but you wait for Abby to respond.
"I... I think so?" Abby clearly needs some lessons when you get her out of here, and you aren't really sure if it is a good idea to teach her to wield her powers as a Silver Key or not. It might be better if she got a handle on them though, not just so that she'd be able to defend herself against any threats that might target her in the future, but also to defend herself from her own powers. You already heard how powers like this can easily go out of control from Nyarlathotep, leading to the erasure of Betty Parris' original family and self, and the ability to manifest portals to anywhere in time and space could easily create apocalyptic events.You ruffle the girl's hair. "Good, then lets get going, shall we? Candle, if I'm walking in the right direction, I want you to remain lit, but if I'm going in the wrong direction, extinguish yourself, OK?" The candle lights itself twice to show it understands you, and you set off from the house with Abby in tow, seeking out where Betty might be.The walk is a long one, but your system of finding the area where Betty is works pretty well. You make barely any wrong turns until you're finally standing at the foot of a tall tree, it's been just over two hours since you entered this world now. "Oh! This is the tree I was talking about!" Abby recognizes the tree. So... this is the place, huh?"Is this it?" you ask the candle, and it confirms your question. Of course, what it doesn't, and indeed can't confirm is just what you're supposed to do to actually reach Betty.>Ask Abby if she has any ideas.>Cut the tree down.>Run your magical energy through the tree.>Touch the tree at the same time as Abigail.>Write-in...
>>4706638>>Write-in...Headpat the Tree
>>4706638>Run your magical energy through the tree.Should at least give us an idea of what's going on with it.
>>4706638>Pat Abby's head>Run your magical energy through the tree while holding her Betty will recognise that, won't she? Holding her just in case we're instantly teleported or something, though I don't see it as very likely.4 minutes
>>4706638Touch the tree at the same time as Abigail>>4706645Support
>>4706638>>4706645I just got off work and almost every single choice the anons have made is head patting, is this loli headpat hours? Oh, and support I guess?
>>4706669The loli Chad's are back
>>4706669Abby has been alone for a week in a creepy version of her hometown with her family and best friend missing. This is usually the opener of a horror movie. She deserves the headpats, as she deserves to become our 3rd daughteru today (and the day is not yet over).
>>4706645how do you headpat a tree
>>4706682With your hand, obviously.
>>4706682Infuse it with truth and turn it into a loli dryad.
>>4706682With the assistance of a ladder.
>>4706638Calling in 30
>>4706638>Run your magical energy through the tree.>Headpat the Tree
>>4706638>>Run your magical energy through the tree.
>>4706638>Touch the tree at the same time as Abigail.>headpat tree>headpat abigail>you can't headpat fire, yet
>>4706679I wonder if we can pull another Foreigner into our world. Technically the second Foreigner slot was never filled, let alone the third slot. Could we exploit that loop hole? It would be broken as hell if we could do that.
Interlude Start"I... suppose I should tell you what happened to me next." Shinji's sister speaks next... Sakura, that was her name. "Well, I'll start back in Fuyuki, before Shinji was kidnapped and taken to this town by... you, Mordred." The girl glances at the girl wearing armor."Oh, come on. You can't blame me for not being able to resist a command spell at the time, I did what I could you know!?" Medea has absolutely no idea on what happened, but can really only assume that it had something to do with the girl being forced to take Shinji against her own will. Those command spells really are quite a pain to deal with, or at least they would be for Servants less knowledgeable in magic than she is herself. "Well, ignoring you kidnapping my Onii-chan for now, I guess the important part was how he... used his abilities to improve my magical abilities. Now I'm much stronger than I was before." Well, she does seem to emanate an aura that seems to suffocate the concept of magecraft right now, so she definitely had something changed about her."You're telling me! That poor sap Nrvnqsr didn't stand a chance!" Arcueid joins in on Sakura's explanation. Though upon realizing that her input was both unneeded and uncalled for she quiets down, the powerful vampire sheepishly settling back into her chair."Anyway, after he was kidnapped by you, Mordred. We were lost for a while, and then we were attacked at night." The girl's eyes dart to the two girls standing slightly further away from everyone else. "After some time, he managed to get in contact with us and organize transportation, then we stayed at the Tohno Mansion for a day, and the next day while the meeting was happening, mostly every one else remained out in town. Later on, I ended up dragging that Dead Apostle inside myself, and he was..." The girl gets a little bit embarrassed about explaining her bizarre form of magecraft, so she seems to skip out on the details. "Anyway, after I did that, something else was summoned within myself, so I'm... sort of a host to something now." The girl doesn't seem to want to reveal the specifics to everyone here. Unfortunate. Fortunately, it's not entirely impossible to make a few guesses as to the nature of the being lurking within her. "Anyway, to cut things a little short, later on, we ended up finding you threatening to kill Rin in a clothes store, Mordred."
"I guess I should explain myself then." The king coughs a little awkwardly herself this time. "Yes, I did kidnap my advisor once, but it was through a command spell that compelled my actions. Then later on after I let him escape the prison he was being held in, I was told to kill one of his allies who were alone, so I purposely stalled as long as I was capable of doing so, and that gave you enough time to find me." The King defends herself quite well from the allegations, she did what she was capable of in the situations she found herself in. "Anyway, after all that my advisor actually managed to deliver on his promise to give me Caliburn, and... well, I drew it from the floor, and by reenacting the drawing of the stone... well, I became the king." Not a very good explanation of what exactly happened, but again, it explains enough of why the Servant isn't actually a Servant at all. "So after this war is over, I'm going to go and claim Britain from the false royal family that currently sit on the throne." A... lofty goal, and one who is as powerful as this girl won't really have much of a problem in dealing with most things the weakened modern world can throw at her. Still, Medea doesn't like the fact that she keeps referring to the man she intends to marry as her advisor. "After all this, we went out at night, and we ended up summoning my... mother from a magic circle that was left behind." Mordred doesn't seem very pleased to see her own mother... in fact she seems to be treating the existence of her mother here as something of a burden.The conversation at this point basically ends up with everyone telling everyone specific things that weren't mentioned in the greater explanations. Like the battle at the mansion with the two Oni Girls, who end up getting more than a few glares as a result of the explanations. Then there's the existence of this goddess who was arrogant enough to try to force her Master into a proposal, Medea can't wait to meet this fox goddess, so she can strangle her with one of her own tails. Of course, despite her negative thoughts on the woman, she keeps a smile on her face at all times. It's of great concern that so many women are targeting the heart of her master, it seems. Though Medea can understand why, Shinji is the rare example of a man who not only wants to help the people he cares about, but has the power, means and drive to actually follow through with what he sets out to do. Interlude End.
>>4706726>Shinjibowl turns hot! Millions of casualties and devastated cities are left in the wake of the first battles! Stay tuned for the latest developments!
>>4706743I wonder if one of the waifus have some way of escaping the Sakura vore chamber.
>>4706749Medea and Tamamo are toast, but I think Mordred, Arcueid and maybe Satsuki might possibly be physically strong enough to prevail.
>>4706726>Medea doesn't like the fact that she keeps referring to the man she intends to marry as her advisor>Medea can't wait to meet this fox goddess, so she can strangle her with one of her own tailsthe true war is Shinjibowl
Interlude Start"Kirei, you bastard! Get out here!" Rin storms through the building like a woman possessed. Knowing what she knows now about the bastard priest, there's just no way she's going to let him live another day. In fact, she's even drawn the power of the Kaleidosword, even if it makes her dress like a ridiculous magical girl. As embarrassing as the outfit might appear, the Kaleidosword itself is a testament to her achievements with the Second True Magic. Right now, the Kaleidosword is a supreme Mystic Code that is easily on the level of the greatest of Noble Phantasms. The sword itself is utterly unbreakable, or... well, that's not technically true, it would be more accurate to say that the sword refreshes itself at every moment, drawing in the Kaleidosword of a parallel universe that contains only that Kaleidosword in perfect condition. Of course, what this also means is that the sword is capable of phasing and cutting through any material in the universe through phasing through it. Not to mention just how much control the thing has given her over the Second True Magic as a whole. With the Jeweled Sword alone, she could barely even wield the Magic, but right now, she's capable of even some of the more advanced applications of the Second True Magic. The actual traveling between parallel worlds should be more than possible with the Kaleidosword, not that she'd really want to leave this timeline at all, she isn't the sort of person to just run from her problems.The priest emerges from a door. "Rin? What on Earth are you doing here, and why in God's name are you dressed in such an embarrassing outfit? Do you really think that doing something like that is going to do anything other than bring shame to the Tohsaka?" The priest immediately starts trying to hit her where it hurts... verbally, at least. He hasn't actually started to try to kill her just yet. Kirei looks around the room to see the presence of Rin's aid. Though she doesn't need it at all. "Rin, if this is meant to be some sort of ambush attempt to get me to relinquish the Command Spells that I have been granted as Overseer of the war, then I'm afraid that isn't going to happen."You think this is about stealing your dumb command spells, Kirei?" Rin can barely suppress her rage at the priest. "No, Kirei, this is about how you murdered my father. I'm here to take my revenge.""Rin, I haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about, but I didn't kill your father, I can promise you that." He lies. Rin can see that he's lying. He might be a good liar. But what he's doing now is trying to lie to her, probably so he can kill her too. If EMIYA-kun... Or, Archer, as she should probably think of him, is convinced of Kotomine's guilt, then she doesn't need any more prodding to believe what Shinji told her.
"You shut your mouth you lying snake. Tell me why you killed my father!" Rin takes a step forwards and towards Kotomine, lifting the large Kaleidosword into combat position as she does."Rin, if you keep this up, I'll have no choice but to defend myself." Two sets of black keys appear in the priests hands, and Rin has to suppress a smirk. Oh gee, I wonder what's going to win, his run-of-the-mill standard issue Church Executor blessed sticks of metal, or a supreme Mystic Code with a good deal of control over the Second True Magic, the magic that was used by Zelretch to slay the Crimson Moon."Try it, you fake priest, you aren't going to lay a finger on me when I'm like this." Normally, Kirei might've held an advantage against her, he'd try to pick at her weaknesses, both in her martial arts form and in her mental state itself, trying to throw her off of her guard, stuff like that. Rin was well aware that beating Kirei Kotomine would normally be impossible for her outside of a surprise attack with her jewels, but... with the Kaleidosword, not only was she capable of reinforcing her body to the level of a Servant, but she also had a weapon on the same level as the most powerful Noble Phantasms. She dashes forwards, her body reinforced to a level that she can wield the oversized blade of the Kaleidosword with a single hand, and it's all that Kirei can do to dodge out of the way of the sword as Rin swings it towards him. He's not foolish enough to attempt to block the weapon with his black keys, unfortunately. Even if he doesn't know about the effects of the Kaleidosword, it's still not the sort of thing that mere Black Keys could defend him against.Kirei is clearly on the ropes, and the rest of them aren't even bothering to get involved, good. This is something she needs to do alone. "Rin, please, stop this pointless attack, I'm sure we'll be able to get to the bottom of this if you were just willing to talk about it with me." Despite the situation, Kirei has managed to keep a completely composed face for the entire time, seems like he doesn't quite grasp the situation he is actually in right now."I... loathe you." She can see each and every little manipulation he tries as clearly as day now, and nothing is going to stop her from exacting her vengeance on this bastard. Kirei attempts to throw a handful of Black Keys at her, but he's too slow to even come close to hitting her, and she simply uses the flat of the Kaleidosword to block the three long knives. "You're going to die today, Kirei, and though I'd like you to confess your sins before I kill you off for good." Normally, she wouldn't act like this to anyone, but she considers the man who deceived her for a decade after murdering her father a special case.
She toys with Kirei for a while, wanting to get the message across to the priest that he's totally doomed and there's no hope of survival in this situation. She could kill him any time she wanted, but she holds off simply to try to draw the confession from Kirei's own mouth. While she believes without a doubt what he did, she still wants to hear it from him before she gets rid of him for good.The fight continues on for a while like that, everything Kirei that attempts to do to try to gain an upper hand or maybe potentially escape is blocked with ease. Until finally, Rin draws the Azoth Blade that she had kept on her person, and in a maneuver that Kirei couldn't possibly expect, she drives it deep into his leg, severing the muscle tendon, and forcing the priest to the floor. She twists the dagger in the leg wound just a little before releasing it. "Confess to killing my father, and I'll let you die." Really though, she's had quite enough of trying to draw a confession from the bastard, and is just about ready to kill him."Wait Rin." EMIYA-kun suddenly calls out to stop her, and she turns around. "If you want to get him to tell the truth, I have just the thing." The red garbed man starts to trace a weapon in his hands, and before long, he's holding a short sword with runes drawn on the blade and a relatively extravagant handle. "This blade... is Fragarach, one of the few Divine Constructs that I am actually capable of creating due to the materials involved in it's creation being available to this modern world." He hands her the sword. "While the one as wielded by the Fraga bloodline is incapable of replicating all of the effects of the original blade, this Fragarach is very much capable of doing so, and all you need to do is put the weapon to the throat of a man, and he will spill even his darkest secrets to you." Archer hands her just what she needs to truly get closure. It's nice to see that despite everything, Shirou is still a reliable guy even in the future. She then looks at Kotomine, this time, she's the one with a smile on his face, while the priest for the first time genuinely looks worried. This is going to be... fun. Interlude Out.
neat ludes man
>>4706838>This is going to be... fun.Yep, it was.>EMIYA-kun>It's nice to see that despite everything, Shirou is still a reliable guy even in the futureNice to see a good plan come together. Now all we need to do is talk to Alaya about EMIYA's early retirement.
Didn't think you would actually do a Rin interlude. Nice.
>>4706838do the helicopter rides now, they'll be funny
>>4706838get fucked alter boy bastard
>>4706859I think they'd fit great right before the fight with Oroch, for a nice cliffhanger.
Where is the Sakura having lewd dreams about us interlude?
>>4706869Ik we agreed to drag Orochi straight to hell but it'd be pretty kino if we finished our Reality Marble during the fight and we erase him from existence
>>4706886i don't think the world would like us erasing more shit.I fear having to meet gaia personally.
>>4706889Orochi is a (Fake) Beast, Gaia can eat shit if she gets mad at that
>>4706886Actually we just want to permakill him so Arc doesn't lose her loosh.
>>4706893And also erase his soul so it doesn't go to either Manaka, Sakura or Illya.
>>4706893>>4706889I just think narratively, finishing our Reality Marble at that junction would be perfect. Our /qst/ started with wanting to kill Zouken and that goal ends with us reaching the peak of magecraft right as we finish him off once and for all
>>4706901It could happen, even with our current plan we're going to have to deal with Orochi's servants and him thrashing around.
>>4706901>right as we finish him off once and for allUnfortunately, Zouken is already dead. That's Orochi driving his body. Unless Shiki can permakill Orochi's soul and leave Zouken's, the worm has given us the slip.
>>4706909Zouken is still in there, Orochi is driven by his goals and inherited his powers and body
>>4706909Actually that's incorrect, Zouken's still around, his mind is just in the backseat.You're right that hitting Orochi's dp could leave Zouken alive though.
"Abby, I want you to touch the tree at the exact same moment I touch it, OK? I'm going to run some of my magical energy through it at the same time as I touch it, but I don't want something to happen the moment that the tree is touched." After all, if it teleported whoever touched it immediately, than the mere act of touching it without Abby also doing the same may separate you from the girl. Still, the odds of something like that happening aren't very high, you don't want to take any chances."Ok, Mister Shinji. I can do that." Abby nods with a determined look on her face, you're... only asking her to touch a tree, but the girl obviously just wants to be of help to you in finding Betty, so she's seemingly maybe a little too determined about the act of just... putting her hand on a tree."Good, are you ready?" You tell the girl to prepare herself, and you hover your hand close to the trunk. "On the count of three, we'll both touch it at the same time, OK?" The girl nods. "Three... Two... One!" You and Abby both place your palms on the tree, and immediately you feel the world turn upside down and inside out around you. Colors spin and textures blur. You can see that Abby was taken along with you, so you quickly grab her hand before you lose her in the shifting world of color that the two of you are being dragged through. Somehow, Candle-Kun managed to disappear out of it's candlestick holder and seems to have securely planted itself on your shoulder, securing itself into position with wax. You're glad that this isn't reality, otherwise the melted wax would've ruined yet another one of your suits.There's no sound as you are whisked away into what you can only assume to be the deepest layer to Betty's psyche. You had... no idea at all that Betty's inner world was going to be like this, and you have no doubt that neither did Betty. AS you can see the world around you restore itself, you find yourself standing on... nothing. An invisible floor, beneath it is an expansive void of nothingness. "Why did you come here?" You can hear Betty's voice, and the silhouette of the girl standing a distance away. "You... shouldn't have tried to come to this place." She speaks again. "If the outside version of me remembers... then she won't want to live anymore, don't you understand that?!" Betty shouts at you, and you're surprised at the harsh words of the girl. "You should've just left!" You... didn't know that was an option.>Respond harshly to the hidden memories of Betty.>Respond kindly to the hidden memories of Betty.>Run towards the hidden memories of Betty and hug her.>Tell her that she's not alone. That you'll never let her be alone.>Prove you won't leave her. Ask her to try to use her Authority to erase you.>Write-in...
>>4706912>Orochi is driven by his goalsOrochi just wants to kill us as a favor to the guy who donated his meatsuit. That's not Zouken's goals, that's a last "fuck you" to the guy who ruined his real goals.>>4706913I can't think of anything other that would separate them. That's dead enough for me.
>>4706917>>Respond kindly to the hidden memories of Betty.>>Tell her that she's not alone. That you'll never let her be alone.
>>4706920Well, Orochi and Zouken share a composite body of considerable mass, so it's possible that Zouken might be able to reconstitute even after Orochi starts unravelling.Not saying it's going to happen, but I wouldn't put it past someone as stubbornly resilient as Zouken to find a way to escape ultimate death.
>>4706917>>>Respond kindly to the hidden memories of Betty.>>>Tell her that she's not alone. That you'll never let her be alone.>Run towards the hidden memories of Betty and hug her.>headpat
>>4706917>Respond kindly to the hidden memories of Betty.>Tell her that she's not alone. That you'll never let her be alone.>Prove you won't leave her. Ask her to try to use her Authority to erase you.I am truth given form.I look upon the falsehoods of reality.An infinity of lies.Blind to the beyond.I shall guide the way.We can take it. Azathoth and his Authority is just another lie compared to our Truth. Let's guide Betty's way.
>>4706917Respond kindly to the hidden memories of Betty.>Run towards the hidden memories of Betty and hug her.>Tell her that she's not alone. That you'll never let her be alone.I love you daughter
>>4706945thats like asking someone to throw a nuke at you because you think you can take it.
>>4706962Yeah, pretty much. I'm not claiming it's certainly a good idea, and I definitely won't try to convince anyone. But I still think we can take it, here and now.
>>4706917>>4706945Either kino dead end or character growth moment for both servant and master.
>>4706962Maybe if it was some kind of Authority over Destruction, but it's really just dominion over the space that she created here.I'm convinced that we couldn't be destroyed by manipulating this space like I'm sure she couldn't delete Alan or some other higher being.We won't be destroyed because we are above this world, and simply can't be written out of it.
Bros when are we going to go full "IT'S TIME TO USE *THAT!*" and unleash pic related on Medea?
>>4707005Or we can just ask, she'd get like this pretty quickly, good doujin tho
>>4707005she'd absolutely fuck the life out of us and walk away with a smile on her face.make no mistake fellow anons, medea is a semen demon, and the proof is her diamond cutting nips
>>4707008>>4707021It's only fair we do all those doujin-tier sexcapades after the grail war ends though. Endure it all with a smile on our face
>>4707034smiles we must protect
>>4707034Carnival Phantasm only made my lust for Medea stronger after seeing how WIFE she isI cannot be stopped, I WILL get us to wife her
>>4707042>>4707044But let's not forget...
>>4707051there are several smiles that must be protected
>>4707044I'm not sure what you mean, anon.Though I'm kinda sad we stole her from Souichirou. Kuzuki-sensei deserved happiness too.
>>4707058didn't we throw money at him? Also he's our teacher, we can't exactly just leave him high and dry and he showed us our mad assassin skills that we rarely use as everyone is too strong for us
>>4707058He wants to make Tiamat a mommy again
>>4707061>our mad assassin skills that we rarely use as everyone is too strong for usThat's the average Assassin experience
>>4707058We should see how Kuzuki is and taiga.
>>4707061>didn't we throw money at him?I don't understand what you're trying to say here. But yeah, he's our teacher and we're the one human being he felt safe enough to open up to and share his story. And we did him dirty by swooping in to grab Medea before he could.Ah, well. The heart wants what the heart wants. Far too late now for regrets anyway.>>4707063I wasn't being serious, anon.
>>4707044it would be pretty based to try and recreate the Carnival Phantasm harem date segment as Shinji tries to desperately keep everyone happy on their dates while not alerting anyone that he's two timing everyone
>>4707068You get what you pay for.
>>4707073I'm not sure if it's based, but it looks more and more likely that's our future.
>>4707072I mean, he got nabbed first by Manaka, if we hadn't saved Medea she would have died.
>>4707057Yeah, too bad mine is gonna get axed alongside my personal favorite when the time comes. I've long since accepted this.
>>4707072I don't want to jump down the rabbithole of holding ourselves accountable for cosmically wronging people in the process of saving reality
>>4707076we fail immediately as Sakura was stalking us (again) and we forgot about our date with Sacchin >>4707078Technically we can still get Saber Alter, she was literally a dice roll away from being teleported to us and we have 3 people with Rule Breaker. Chances are Rin fucks up or we get her to purposely teleport her to us
hey qm why don't you stick with one thread instead of making others so it hits 5k posts or something like that lol
>>4707094that kills my computer
>>4706945Fucking based. Supporting
I just noticed that this is technically a sidequest of a sidequest.
>>4707110we need to go deeper
>>4707094The question is, is it a bigger flex to fill the board with 1000+ post threads, or to have one 5000+ thread?
>>4706945We don't have our full reality marble to resist. I wouldn't tempt this without it.
>>4706917Supporting >>4706945>>4706726>>4706838Nice.>>4706859>>4706869Helicopter ride should be fun. Everyone trying to be nice to Alítheia then Arc get teleported and then they get the call and realise things gone horrible wrong yet again.
>>4707088>we fail immediately as Sakura was stalking us (again) and we forgot about our date with SacchinYou know, its not like things went any better for Shiki and Shirou when they tried to date only one.
>>4707170honestly we're at a point of no return and we basically HAVE to go harem route now, Medea and Tamamo are straight up expecting us to marry them, Sakura will never let us go for as long as she lives and Sacchin is dependent on our blood among other things
>>4707269or we can put everyone inside of Sakura and make them fully merge together
>>4707117We're inside Betty's inner world. Our Truth is stronger here. And it is a pivotal moment. Someone said earlier that our first goal of this Quest was to kill Zouken, and it would be great to come full circle and kill him with Truth, but this is not entirely true. Killing Zouken has always been a means to end. Our goal has always been to protect the people we care about. We used Truth to save Sakura from the worms. We used Truth to heal Alitheia's wing. We can use Truth to resist and show Betty she doesn't have to be afraid anymore. I wouldn't make a habit out of daring her to swat us, but right here, right now, I think we can take it.
>>4707373We don't know if we're going to be capable of tanking a literal universe level erasure ability.We don't know Inner Betty's limits.We also don't know what's going to happen to Outer Betty when she gets these memories back.I hope she's not going to be sad.Hey I just realised.Can't we use Betty to incarnate all the Servants?
>>4706945Supporting because kino
>>4707377Yes, we don't know for sure if it's gonna work. It's a risk, but not the first one we've taken. We do know outer Betty will be (perhaps suicidally) sad when she learns the truth, and so we should do everything we can to ease her burden. The truth of her parents' fate will be overshadowed by the Truth that we'll never leave her, no matter what.
>>4707382I guess it could work if we properly shield ourselves with Truth first.Otherwise we're getting squished.
all those revelations make vampire dead end really funnyaltrouge was fucked sooo hard in that timeline
Lmao.I just realized if it is Siegfried then Medea easily hardcounters him.So do we actually. Jason did actually love Medea but her being basically forced by the gods to butcher her brothers understandably put him off her. He's not into Yanderes.Billy is cool.Paracelcus is a bro most of the time.As for Berserker it depends on if it's Berserk Umu, Jannu Alter or Hitler.
I'm not sure which would be more interesting as a timeline to visit. Akeldama or Awakening.Awakening would be fun to jump into to style all over a Grail War and spook Shirou, Rider and Sakura.Akeldama would be fun to bully Judas and try to turn Yumigawa into a non-psychopath.
>>4706945I like it, support.
>>4707426I also doubt Shinji would get japed by Judas' anagram name.Nyarla already pulled that one.
>>4706969>implying it wouldn’t be both
This is gonna be super embarrassing if she just erases us instantly.Like more embarrassing than a "getting digested by Sakura" level dead end and we didn't even stick around long enough to get that dead end inside of her.At least we didn't taunt Sakura to try to eat and digest us Here's hoping Truth holds out.
>>4707469We are doing it for our daughter. We have to take the risk.
>>4707471>"Erase me I dare you">"Ok">get erased >sad trombone noise>Betty kills herself
>>4707472>Taiga calls us a stupid overconfident seaweed and send us back.
>>4707473It's a mega erasing power.This might end the quest.
>>4707472O tolmon nika
>>4707477hello roa my old friend...
>>4707477I don't think it will end the quest however it might be our most embarassing bad end since sealing ourself in a room without air.
>>4707478This logic lead to us becoming Altrouge's afternoon snack.>>4707480We can at least kick him in the dick in non-existence I guess.
>>4707482Hey, it was a great idea, we just didn't think it through.
I hope we get to headpat Kingprotea in the future.She's a good girl.
>>4707492you will headpat BB
>>4707495We'll wombpat BB
>>4707495>>4707497no anons, that's how you get Moon Cancer
>>4707497while doing double handholding and looking her in the eyes
>>4707502Just beat it with Truth Chemo
>>4707503With Sakura watching
>>4707508and teasing BB
>>4707495>>4707497I genuinely think being overly flirty would be the best way to defeat BB's resistance to us.Just kiss her out of nowhere to see her response.
>>4707511I'm not certain whether its better BB to love or hate us.If she hates us she'll treat us like a bug to be squashed.If she loves us she'll go full sadistic femdom on us.We're really lucky she's basically a powerless harmless NEET right now.We should buy her a laptop.
>>4707530>Sadist Femdom BBDefinitely love.
>>4707538sadistic femdom bb that always get flustered by superior bullying
>>4707540Now that's what I call a relationship.Secret best girl BB.Nyarly is a bro.
How is everyone doing today?Writing in 30 minutes.
>>4707555I just discovered that everyone in thread is horny as hell and want an H scene already. Maybe a Sakura having lewd dreams interlude could be something to sate the horny anons?
>>4707567Wait, you're just realizing that now? People were lusting after Monica minutes after her first appearance!
>>4707571It wasn't as bad as this thread, there was a full on conversation of Shinji bdsm with BB. Pretty hot though ngl. The H scene is definetly long overdue, and imo the best way to not piss off the monogamy people is to have a lewd dream sequence scene that Sakura had when she vored us that one time.
>>4707567QM can't write that if he wanted to, tho its implied she did have that
>>4707400Vampire Simp Dead Apostle End has so much potential for some revenge fantasy tales.Imagine these scenarios:1. Sakura going Dark Sakura and telling Simpji: You. Are. Not. My. Onii-chan. and deciding to eradicate all DAs and DAAs.2. Touko getting really furios after seeing that Shinji has become and blaming herself for it. We need to keep in mind that at thiis moment she was really preoccupied about killing Rizo and thankful to Shinji for saving her from perma dying time trap. That is some serious Death Wish material.3. Very vengeful Illya who was robbed of people she care about again4. Satsuki becoming like Enhance after witnessing how Altrouge destroyed everything she had in life5. Nyarly just picking up comatose Betty, throwing Altrouge into tentacle pit and turning off the lights>>4707426>>4707438>Akeldama>JudasWasn`t his whole Wish and plan just about creationg Hero in Modern Age? Human Shinji existing as he is right now is beyond his wildest expectations.>AwakeningMore interesting to visit as Foreigner solo or with 1-2 mates. Like Alcides or Lugh.Defeating Alberich as Foreigner is also the ultimate spit on Judas.>>4707574H scene but it is Saber and Shirou during our time in Misaki town.
>>4707581Judas wanted to create a living conceptual being. essentially, his goal was to create a literal living legend, like a heroic spirit whose legend is still being written.
Apologies if updates are a little sparse today, I'm kind of in pain right now, and it's taking me out of the game.>>4707426>>4707581Both would be fun to write, seeing as if I did write them, Shinji wouldn't really have all too much meta-knowledge to pull from except for Circe's identity and maybe Perseus for Akeldama.There are some discrepencies with events so it would be an alternate timeline thing that could be potentially visited anyway if you decide to take that route.It probably won't happen, but it's fun to think about it.Oh course, Shinji post-grail war would probably be a little too powerful, so I might have to temporarily restrict some of his powers depending on what you do in this war. Though it would only really be for alternate timeline stuff to prevent certain bad things from happening if you were to just go flaunting your powers in actual branching timelinesStill holding out hope that we'll get to see how Awakening actually ends.
>>4707601I am surprised you actually offering it as an option.All things considered with Nasuverse-related timeline hopping poking Sweets`s corpse if hardly the most interesting thing to do.>I'm kind of in pain right now, and it's taking me out of the game.Try not to push yourself too hard. Making your hobby a chore is the worst way to kill motivation in the long run.
>>4707601If you’re in pain feel free to take a break for a day or so if needed, and get plenty of rest!Been really enjoying this quest so far and I think I’ll keep enjoying it until the very end
>>4707601What the above anons said. Take all the time you need to rest man, we'll all still be here.
"Betty! There's nothing to be afraid of! I'll never let you be alone, I'm your father, remember?" You tell your Servant with a smile on your face, you can tell that this girl needs you right now, she's confused and scared, the memories that are usually sealed off from the girl... well, it's strange that they clearly have no wish to actually erase themselves after all that has happened, perhaps it's due to these sealed memories having been separated from the childish innocence of your Servant. Yet they clearly care about Betty as a whole. It's... somewhat hard to determine whether this girl is actually Betty as a whole, or simply her separated memories, but in either case, she should have been watching everything that happened through the eyes of the other Betty anyway... right? "You... You can't be my father! I erased my father and replaced him with... with a copy! Then I did the exact same to myself! If Betty were to remember what she truly did, then... then she'd just do the exact same thing! She can't cope with the truth!" It seems the two of them are separate entities, in some way, at least. "I don't want to die again... and neither does Betty... but... all that reuniting the two of us will do... all that it will do is make my... true self... she'll just want to die again. She won't be able to deal with the idea of erasing everyone she loves once again." "That's not true, Betty!" You counter the girl. "You won't have to deal with the idea of erasing everyone that you love, because... because you can't erase me!" You really hope that your theory is correct. That you'll be able to use Truth to defend yourself against Azathoth's authority. It makes sense that it would be the case, considering how Nyarlathotep and Azathoth himself seem to have placed so much importance upon you."What?" The silhouette of the girl takes a step backwards, clearly not expecting you to go so far as to suggest that she try to kill you like that. Well, it would be an action that goes beyond killing, she wouldn't be killing you if you were to fail here. You would have your very existence undone, the Authority of Azathoth in this place is clearly supreme and is of a greater conceptual strength than even the concept of death, and you don't know just how much control over it that Betty's inner memories have. Enough control over it to create a perfect replica of Salem, as well as hide away her other personality somewhere within this place. "You heard me right. I dare you to try to erase me at this very moment, use the full extent of Azathoth's Authority that you have available to you. Erase me, Betty. Try to erase me, and I'll show you just why you'll never be alone." You really really hope you aren't wrong about this.
"You... You're out of your mind! I don't want get rid of you, fath- Shinji!" The inner memories of Betty almost refer to you as her father, and it feels really odd to be having an argument with the locked away memories of a nine year old. Then again, it's very clear that this consciousness is far beyond what Betty herself is capable of, so you don't really know what's going on here. Memories given a form, an existence not formed out of the complete memories of a human being, but of the regrets of a young girl. You aren't sure what sort of effect it might have on Betty to actually reunite with this consciousness, but you doubt it would have much of an effect on her personality due to having been formed out of only a few of her original memories that were taken from her."You're not content with existing like this, are you? Sealed away in your own mind. You know that the other Betty isn't comfortable with her own mental state either, don't you?" The girl clearly hates not being able to remember the last moments of her life, and if she is ever to truly get over that, then you're going to need to help her here. "If it's fear over the past repeating, just... try to erase me." You repeat yourself once again."Fine." The silhouette of Betty finally agrees to your conditions. "If you're really willing to die to prove yourself, then I'll show you just why I was locked here in the first place." Her voice loses all emotion, as if she's tired of arguing with you. "I'm sorry."Suddenly, you feel a tremendous pressure seeping throughout your body, like the very space that you stand in is trying to devour you in body and soul! You look at your hand, and you see it slowly being transformed into dust. You turn to look at the silhouette of the girl, the darkness finally gone from her body to reveal the shocked tear-stained face of your Servant... no, of your daughter. Clearly, the very fact that you weren't erased by this power immediately is proof enough that survival is possible! But how?! You're going to need to think fast, otherwise you really will be erased!>Manifest a Barrier of Truth around your body.>Attempt to infuse your body with manifested truth.>Ask Betty to stop.>Begin reciting your Reality Marble.>Write-in...
>>4707673>Begin reciting your Reality MarbleLETS DO THIS SHIT! KINO INCOMING
>>4707673>Begin reciting your Reality Marble.
>>4707673>>Begin reciting your Reality Marble.Anon is right and so is the time. Time for Kino.
>>4707673>Begin reciting your Reality Marble.It is time.
>>4707673>Begin reciting your Reality Marble.>headpat herthis is going to be really dumb if we fail
>>4707673>>Begin reciting your Reality Marble.ROW ROW, FIGHT THE POWER
>>4707673>>Begin reciting your Reality Marble.We have to do this
>>4707673>>Begin reciting your Reality Marble.
>>4707742Adding to this>Walk towards Betty while chanting> When you get close enough, kneel down and hug the girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3UjsOzzCjAYou can't feel your left hand anymore. It's gone completely. Erased from existence at a conceptual level. You don't even know if you'll be able to naturally regenerate it like this. But... You aren't done yet!"I am truth given form!" You shout out the first line of your Reality Marble, and already, you can feel the pressure being exerted on you lessen every so slightly. You can still feel your left arm slowly beginning to unravel, and you can feel the sensation starting to occur on your right foot as well now, not to mention that there seems to be a hole opening up in the side of your body."I look upon... the falsehood of reality!" You have to take a pause before you can finish your second line, but thankfully, that too decreases the pressure and speed at which you are being eroded away into nothingness. You are forced to take a knee as your right foot finishes dissolving into complete nothingness. You... You have to keep going!"An infinity of lies!" Once again, with every completed line, the power being exerted on you is resisted more and more, had you been anybody else. Had anybody else in the entire universe have attempted to resisted this supreme authority, then it wouldn't have mattered how powerful they were, they would've been picked apart and had their very concept erased. Types, Beasts, the Velber. Against this sort of power, no amount of strength would allow you to survive. This isn't something that can be survived with any amount of power!"Blind to the beyond!" You finish your next line just as you feel your other hand beggining to vanish, as well as your foot. The erasure is slowed by a great deal. You're missing half of your lower torso, your right foot, your left arm, as well as both your right hand and left foot. To anybody watching this, they would assume that you were the one losing this battle of magic, and... perhaps you would be, if Betty were truly using the fool power of Azathoth's Authority to immediately overwhelm your natural resistance to it, you doubt you would've been given the chance to actually speak any of your arias before having your capacity to speak be erased.
"I shall guide the way!" Despite missing a lot of your body now, you manage to remain kneeling, despite the physical impossibility of the action considering how horribly unbalanced you are right now. As you complete the fifth line, you finally feel the effects of the erasure cease. Of course, you're still missing a great deal of your body, and you won't be able to recover them like this. Even if this is just a projected body for you to use in Betty's dream world, you have no intention of allowing it to remain in such a state. You can see the complete shock on the face of the little girl who you just asked to erase you, clearly she thought that your erasure was a guarantee upon unleashing that power on you."A... perfect world of my own creation!" You finish your sixth verse, and you almost try to finish the Reality Marble as a whole before stopping. The pressure of the erasure has already passed, and your erasure has been undone. Attempting to deploy a Reality Marble in the inner world of somebody else... well, it would probably tear Betty apart, and you don't want that at all. Still, you've proven yourself very much capable of resisting the power of even the Authority of Azathoth... At least to the degree that Betty is capable of wielding it. You aren't under any illusions that against the full strength of that authority, nothing but a complete manifestation of your Reality Marble would be capable of saving you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvVcrslpKAg"How... How are you still alive?!" Betty, who clearly thought that nothing in existence would be capable of resisting that sort of power being wielded against them, is obviously shocked by your survival. "Nothing... Nothing in the world could survive that power!" She obviously didn't expect you to have possibly been able to survive that, and even if she's clearly happy that you not only managed to resist the erasure, but also recovered from the damage that it caused to you."The world? Probably not. Outside of the World? Again, probably not... But Outside of the Outside?" You smirk. "Well, Betty. You've got your answer right here. Something that you can't erase." You allow yourself to look at Abigail for a brief few moments. You're worried about Candle-kun too, but it seems that both of them are fine, Candle-kun seems to have moved onto Abigail's shoulder now. Abigail herself is watching things in complete bewilderment. Pretty clearly she has no idea what the hell she's supposed to be thinking right now, and is in what could be called a stunned silence. A fairly natural reaction to finding yourself in a bizarre place without any real experience or knowledge of things like this.
"You... really aren't going to be erased, are you?" Betty's hidden memories are stunned, and you walk forwards towards the girl, who is frozen in place like a statue. You practically just shattered the entire worldview of this mental construct or whatever the inner memories of Betty would count as."Of course not, Betty. I'm not going to go anywhere." You keep walking towards the girl, and upon reaching her, you envelop her in a deep hug. "That's a promise, OK?" You make another promise to the girl. "I'll never let you suffer from having to be alone anymore." You say in a quiet voice."O-OK." The girl you're holding suddenly begins to glow a bright white, before she dissolves in your arms. You would normally be alarmed by something like this happening, though you somehow know that this isn't anything bad. You can hear the sound of chains breaking all around you, and you look up to see Betty standing in front of you again. There's a bright smile on her face, and tears welling-up in the eyes of the girl. "Father, I... I love you." You stare at Betty in surprise as she is the one to hug you this time. The girl declares her love to you, from a daughter to a father, and you smile back at her with true happiness."Yeah, I... I love you too, Betty." Of course, the love between a daughter and her father is a truly powerful emotion, and while you had initially adopted the girl as a means to make her feel better about things, you've truly accepted this girl as your daughter now, and she has truly accepted you as her father. The hug with Betty lasts for some time, but eventually, she lets you go, and you stand up. The void beneath you now sparkles with millions of lights, of course, they probably aren't actual stars, but it still represents a positive change in Betty's mental state. >"Now, let's go back, shall we?">"Can you try to take Abigail with us when we leave?">"How are you feeling now, Betty?">Headpat Betty.>Write-in...
>>4707777>Headpat Betty.>"How are you feeling now, Betty?">"Can you try to take Abigail and Candle-kun with us when we leave?">"Now, let's go back, shall we?"In this order.Glad it worked so well.
>>4707777>Headpat Betty.>"How are you feeling now, Betty?">"Can you try to take Abigail with us when we leave?">Headpat Abby>"Now, let's go back, shall we?">And let's not forget Candle-KunGoddamn WhatIs, I'm laughing like a madman. I fucking knew it would work.
>>4707777>>4707783+1yay, we didnt die and this gave me fucking diabetes.this type of shit makes me want to have a daughternow its time to kill orochi and find lancer and archer
>>4707777>>4707790add>headpat abby too
>>4707777>>4707783Support.Also this the the most kino moment in the quest i am sorry i doubted you marble chads.
>>4707783+1amazing scene all around
>>4707783Support. This truly was Kino. And it was worth it. Let’s love and support our daughter, like a true father should ;)
>The sixth verse is "A perfect world of my own creation." Upon being invoked, Shinji's body will be immediately restored to a perfect condition no matter its previous condition. At this level, the magical energy cost is great enough that Shinji may pass out as a result of reciting it.Now we really need that Self-Modification skill.
So how much power can Betty exert outside her world? Does she still have a mental block or is she lacking control because if neither of these are true she can just kill Zouken.
Now, just imagine what's been going on outside. We've been gone for five minutes, give or take, which is certainly long enough to be noticeable.>Betty confused when we don't make contact as she expected.>Medea and Tamamo getting more and more worried, probably casting spells to figure out what went wrong.>Suddenly Betty starts crying tears of happiness, right before we reappear holding an extra girl and a candle.
Aren't we here to show her what to make. We should do that before we leave.
>>4707828You'll have to ask her when you're outside just how much more power she has now that she remembers her sealed memories.Of course she's much more powerful in her inner world, but that's a given.
>>4707833>Of course she's much more powerful in her inner world, but that's a given.Still nothing compared to the power of True fatherly love.
Nice. I wonder if we were being snapped in the real world too, everyone must have been panicking. I guess we are about to find out.
>>4707856It would've been for a single moment before we went back to normal and came out of it
Writing the update will be delayed until the painkillers kick in. Expect it to maybe be a little later.
Pain subsided a little. Will try to write now.
Shit, dropped my trip.
>>4707975Hopefully the writing us going well :)
This last scene has made me excited to see the full release of our Reality Marble.It's funny to think about, but that sixth line is very much a symbol of the eight years of preparation for this conflict, as it was the very first thing we started working on after becoming a composite soul.
>>4708061Not just our years of preparation, but everything that drives us as well. A Perfect World, where the people we care about all get a happy ending.
>>4708061>>4708075That's really the main goal with isekai!Shinji, the thing that drives him isn't actually personal power or anything selfish, its the happiness of others (ironic given that he views strangers as NPCs). He legitimately might have some sort of hero or savior complex because of it
>>4708107>He legitimately might have some sort of hero or savior complex>Legitimately just dared a little traumatised girl with the power of god to erase him from existence just so he could ease her suffering.>MIGHT have some sort of hero or savior complex
You pat the girl on the head, still smiling. All told, this was about the best outcome you could've hoped for when you went inside Betty's mind like this. Honestly, something like this wasn't supposed to happen at all, it was meant to be a simple mind-link so that you could guide Betty in the creation of a clone of Justeaze, though as you can see now, such guidance won't be necessary at all. A memory of Justeaze ought to be enough considering how powerful Betty's powers truly are, and even if you can't expect her to be nearly as capable of as much on the outside world as she is within this mental world, something like creating a empty vessel in the shape of Justeaze ought to be very simple for her. "How are you feeling now, Betty? You're... not going to erase yourself, like your memories said you would, right?" Of course you're not expecting her to respond positively to that question, considering how happy she appears."Of course not!" The girl happily says. "My... past... it's a painful reminder of what I'm actually capable of, and why I... why I need to be careful with the power I've been given, but... with you by my side... I think... I think I can move on." The girl smiles, though the smile is tinged with sadness. "I won't let myself forget again, I... don't need to forget anymore." She says with determination on her face. The girl truly seems to have overcome the hurdle that was preventing her from wielding her full power. Of course, the magical energy costs of bringing about life with her abilities likely won't change that much, though with the widened scope... she might just be capable of doing things far far more impressive than she was capable before she got her memories back. Her personality thankfully doesn't seem to have been altered as a result of being reunited with the missing part of herself either... or at least you can't tell from here. You're a little confused about the fact that she should be conscious on the outside yet is somehow capable of conversing with you freely in this place, but it's probably just a result of her powers. Alternatively, you suppose that she may have fallen unconscious on the outside world after her missing memories chose to reunite with her.
"I'm glad to hear that you're going to try to move on from what happened in your past, Betty. Remember that no matter how bad things might get, I'll... I'll always be there for you. That power of yours... It can't hurt me." Well, it can, if you're not prepared for it, but you feel like just being able to resist it for that long is proof enough that you are more than capable of surviving any accidental usages of the Authority of Azathoth. "Betty... In your body as a Servant, and not within your mental realm like this... do you think you'll still be able to call upon the power to erase life?" With something like that at your disposal, Orochi, Manaka, Altrouge, even Primate Murder! All of them would be of no threat to you any longer, and you could just have Betty erase them for you."I... don't know?" The girl pauses in thought for a few seconds. "I guess that if you really want me to use it in the outside world, I'll... need a lot of magical energy. Unlike when I use it here. It's... much easier for me to get rid of things here...""How so?" "It's like... a subtraction. One minus one equals zero, right? I can't use it to get rid of anything that has more magical energy than me... as a Servant, on the outside world, I'm... a little bit weaker." The girl frowns, seemingly upset with the limitations of her newfound power and her inability to be of more use. "Against a Servant, I... don't know if it would be possible to erase them while I'm only a Servant as well... The energy cost is just too much." Betty's additional clarity over her own abilities is actually a little unnerving. "I don't... really want to have to use it anyway." Still, despite her added clarity, she still has her issues with relying on the ability, and you suppose that's completely fair. Even though you've helped her get over her trauma, she's still not going to want to use the ability that was used to destroy her family and herself while she was actually alive. It would be cruel to expect her to use it anyway."Well, disregarding that ability... do you think it's possible to... take those two with us?" You point over to Abigail and Candle-kun for the first time, and Betty finally seems to notice the presence of the two of them. "I want to take Abby out of this place, seeing as she's just as real as the original one." You'd feel bad condemning the girl to a fate of loneliness in this mental world of Betty's, and you feel a little bit indebted to the candle for helping you find Betty in the first place, not to mention that you offered it the opportunity to become your familiar and you have every intention of following up on that offer. You don't know what the hell it is right now, but the abilities that it has shown are incredible! "Your ability is mostly focused on the creation of life, right? Not the destruction of it, so seeing as those two are alive, wouldn't it be possible to take them with us?"
Betty stares at Abby for a few moments. "I... might be able to get her out with us, but... if I do that, then I... won't be able to create this decoy you want." Betty reveals the reason that she seems to have been ignoring the presence of her cousin, guilt. If she were to suggest taking Abigail out, then that would mean that you wouldn't be able to have her create the false Justeaze. "It'll take too much of my power if I were to bring something created in this world out of it. It's... not the same as when I just create things normally on the outside world, if I took something created here, they'd be capable of acting entirely independently of me, she'd be... alive." You take a look at Abigail, who still seems to be kind of confused at to what the two of you are actually talking about, not to mention quite annoyed by the fact that her cousin she's been looking for is ignoring her. "Even with as much magical energy as you can provide, it wouldn't be enough for me to do anything after bringing Abigail to life other than... well, sleep, and it wouldn't be a sleep that I could be awoken from for a while. Even by command spells." She says glumly."So you're saying that if you were to drag something out of here, you wouldn't have anything left to create something new?" You understand that the process was going to be costly, but that's more than you were expecting. Then again, you suppose that the ability to actually create life like this would be costly. That Abigail would be capable of... well, actually living as a real human being is an incredible revelation. Betty nods at your question, and you frown. It's... really not ideal. If Betty fell asleep at this junction, it would mean that your plan to trick Orochi into consuming bait meant to destroy him from the inside out would fail from the start! Of course, there's always the possibility that Orochi won't decide to attack yet. You could finish the plan to create a false sacrifice for Orochi the exact moment that Betty wakes up! But that might be hours from now, and you don't know if you can really leave Orochi alone for that long. >"I see, then never mind.">"Abigail takes priority.">Write-in...
>>4708179Abigail takes priority
>>4708179>>"Abigail takes priority."Fuck it, we can use Illya as a base
>>4708179>>"Abigail takes priority."We should take Abby. We can't leave her here alone, she's too sweet of a cinnamon bun, too pure. Besides, we can always fall back onto Plan B, beat up Manaka and try to yeet Justeaze out of the grail with Truth. From the way I'm reading about how Betty's powers work, if we shared our memories of Justeaze with her, it'd make a literal perfect copy which I wouldn't feel right about sacrificing.
>>4708179>>"Abigail takes priority."Ah dang, Plan B it is.
>>4708179>"Abigail takes priority."It's not even a question. Shame about the trojan whore, but we'll figure something out.
>>4708179>Abigail takes priority.we already KNOW he's not attacking right away because of the interlude, anyway
Alright so do we brute force this? Is it time to call in Gilgamesh?
Seeing as people are going to likely opt for keeping Abby; instead of Betty crafting the base we should be consulting with Touko about a spare puppet she may have lying around and with Medea/Morgan/Alcidies to use the Cretan bull or the Golden Apples from King's Order to impart divinity into the bait. That was my original plan for it anyway before people opted for using Betty's borrowed authority to breathe divinity into the object. That is assuming the bait plan is still the main plan.
>>4708179>"Abigail takes priority."Farewell trojan whore you were a good plan.
>>4708179>"Abigail takes priority.">headpat both lolis>ask about the candleWould a overcharge of mana from the kaleido sword work in a emergency to wake her up?
>>4708214The plan hinges on the idea that Betty's outerwordly constructs would hurt Orochi by being eaten, any other bait is just free snacks.
>>4708214You have a point.We also need to try to find lancer and archer before they die.Maybe have medea try to find the servants that were summoned by orochi and have her notice that not all have contracts or something.
>>4708213Let's talk to the casters first. The plan might still be salvageable.>>4708214>That was my original plan for it anyway before people opted for using Betty's borrowed authority to breathe divinity into the objectYou have it wrong. The plan was to create a being that was anathema to Arcueid's stolen power and have Morgan infuse Divinity as it was being created. Without Betty we can still probably create a bait but the payload might be lacking in strength.
>>4708221>any other bait is just free snacksTheoretically, we could fill it with curses, poisons and the like, but it's gonna be an order of magnitude weaker at least.>>4708222We don't know about them in-character.
>>4708214Speaking of Divinity, the Cerbeus is apart of King's Order except it doesn't have the divinity and authority of Hades, we can impose divinity onto it and turn it into a servant killing machine. Don't know if Nega-Deity will negate it since it say it only works on Gods and the Cerbeus is a divine beast
>>4708229I think if Truth poison didn't work on Shuten it won't work on Orochi but I suppose it doesn't hurt to try.
>>4708224When I originally suggested bait in the shape of Justeaze Betty's eldritch poison was just one component of the insides. We can still make Truth alcohol to knock him unconscious, potentially distilled from one of the apples. I'm also sure between all the casters available there are quite a few powerful sleeping curses they can bring to the table. Fate/ treats certain protections very differently to attacks and suggestions; a powerful conglomerate curse of sleep invitation isn't the same as an attack; e.g. when Legend of Dracula Vlad went to bite Achilles he wasn't protected by Andreias Amarantos as it was an invitation to become an vampire, not a direct attack.
>>4708234It did work on her
>>4708237Because she let it, and she could have fought back if she wanted. Or she faked it very well.
>>4708234>>4708240It did work, she just played it off with Battle Continuation.Her insides were melting when we went to heal her.
>>4708230If we managed to reapply the protection of Hades to Cerberus by reconnecting it to it's divinity it would be likely nigh unkillable conceptually. I imagine it would work similar to Ereshkigal's Blessings of Kur.>>4708234It worked and Orochi is conceptually weak to passing out from alcohol. If not for her A+ Batcon she'd be a puddle of organs.
>>4708241The only reason why it doesn't have Protection of Hades is because it lacked its divinity
>>4708179>"Abigail takes priority."I wonder which choice will win.
Here's hoping I feel better tomorrow and can write more.Being ill sucks.I feel like I should ask a question before signing off for the night.What are you all looking forward to seeing in the future of the quest?It can be either immediate future or down the line, I just want to see what everyone is intersted in seeing.
>>4708291More Carnival Moments. Also, the Neco-Arcs.
>>4708291I wanna see Dante from the Devil May Cry series. And Billy the Kid. And Sakura meeting BB.
>>4708291Interlewds particularly one with sakura.
>>4708291I just want us to do things with and for the people around us. For them to be happy, just like Shinji wants. Today and Alitheia especially, but also Shirou and Saber, Mordred being crowned, getting vored by Sakura and her voring Nero, the original time when we torched the worms and ran, stuff like that. So more of those moments, I guess?And are you enjoying the Quest nowadays, WhatIs?
>>4708308I am enjoying writing still, yes.
>>4708291reality marble kino, reenacting the Carnival Phantasm harem date scenario where we desperately try to make it all work and four horseman fight
>>4708314Good to hear. I hope it stays that way until the end, whenever that may be.
This quest interests me. And it's hard to do so when I couldn't be bothered to sift through all of fanfic.net/AO3 to find a good story. You keep writing and I'll keep reading. >"Abigail takes priority."Does Abigail have any relation to Zelretch?
You know guys, I just had a thought. Nyarly sent us a perfectly serviceable bait. BB is already divine, probably more poisonous than Betty's creations, and has a form that Orochi would hate instinctively. Question is, are we willing to sacrifice even her?It's almost as if that evil bastard predicted this, and the ethical dilemma ut would pose.
>>4708352Nah BB despite hating humanity hasn't fucked with our interests. If she's an agent of Nyarlyotep it would be a bother to get another template BB from another timeline. And plus I don't think giving an aspect of an outergod to the snake god will be a good idea. An Outsider-beast sounds like a nightmare.
>>4708352>are we willing to sacrifice even her?Are we willing to throw a defenseless Eldritch monster who looks like our little sister at Orochi? No
>>4708352I don't think Shinji could feed someone that looks like his little sister to a snake monster, even if bb is a bit cringe.
>>4708291Babymaking sex with Medea and Sakura/Tiamat.HF Sakura/Rider scene except with Shinji and not Shirou.EMIYA, Kiritsugu, Shirou, Saber, and Illya all talking together and figuring everything out, with bonus for Irisviel there too.Kiritsugu or all the Emiyas meeting EMIYA Assassin together.Shirou threesoming with Saber and Morgan.Rin forcing EMIYA to do the high jump and fail, her narration ridiculously horny as Nasu would write her, followed by tsundere yelling at him to fuck her already.Rin and Ciel buttslut shenanigans.Shirou busting out Slash Emperor or some hype kino shit.Shiki and SHIKI broing it up after the truth is out.Monica and Bazett becoming friendsWaver getting laidTaiga finding out everythingTaiga marrying KerryMore characters chatting, commenting, having interactions with each other without Shinji thereShinji dropping the ultimate Truth with ALL FICTION completed and giving a speech while lapsing into canon Shinji grandstanding madnessAND THIS FUCKING GIF
>>4708291More shirou Taiha Dojos too, please
>>4708291I want to us getting Monica back and also taking over Britain.
>>4708361>Taiga marrying KerryTaiga is for Waver anon
>>4708372wait for it...
>>4708356I think it would work, for the same reason the trojan whore would. But I'm not saying we should do it. What I'm trying to say is that we were wondering why Nyarly depowered and sent her our way, and I think I figured out what he was thinking.
>>4708372Taiga belongs to Reines.>>4708375:P
>>4708361>Rin forcing EMIYA to do the high jump and fail, her narration ridiculously horny as Nasu would write her, followed by tsundere yelling at him to fuck her already.Rin (and Ciel) is for us anon
>>4708385I think you'll find that they actually belong to Reines.
>>4708385Ciel is for SHIKI.
>>4708389>Wanting to pass off the nun who likes analanon...
>>4708179>"Abigail takes priority.">>4708291Proper conclusion to all plotlines.Situations where other characters are the ones proactively helping Shiji and not the other way around as always. As much as solving their life issues is a point of meta part of quest it would be nice to see some them attempting to repay by doing the same in a way they see fit.Grand revelation of truth and our true nature to few closest alllies at least. "Well, I know most of this because of that one VN, and I may have seen a doujin or two" is a one big truth bomb I am looking forward the most.
Look all I'm saying is that I'm anticipating illiya to meet her mother one way or another.
>>4708179>"I see, then never mind."Just do it later, she isn't going anywhere, while the fate of the world is time sensitive.
>>4708442Yes but it would make Abigail sad.You wouldn't want to make a little girl cry, would you?
>>4708291Of what hasn't been mentioned so much yet -Karna getting screentime, Alcidies/Morgan too in a combat sense, Donte/the spear happening finally, Merlin/Chaldea plot thread expansion, Aife reappearing (why does Nyarly even need a servant anyway, did he already off her for his entertainment?) interactions between Gray and the Pendragons, Waver and the gang especially Flat, potential future plotthreads in either mooncell or some kind of singularity, ruining casefiles for Waver by spoonfeeding him everything.
>>4708484Alan probably thinks its funny to have a Servant that he never uses or tells anything to so she can be perpetually incredulous and confused at the things he does.
>>4708490From her perspective that one conversation had Shinji just teleport right up to her as she couldn't perceive the frozen time events. She might have some ideas about accessing the land of shadows so her sister can die, even if they don't exactly get along. Also, awkward Cu and Aife conversations eventually hopefully.
>>4708291>What are you all looking forward to seeing in the future of the quest?conquering britain, fixing the current state of magicraft on the world and reaching the SoL part of our lives.also fucking our wives
>>4708179>"Abigail takes priority."
>>4708179>”Abigail takes priority."
>>4708291Shirou must give Shinji the talk
>>4708179>>Write-in...>Ask betty if it's possible to Come back for Abigail at a later time
>>4708361I thought we’re getting Iris out of the cup
>>4708291Get well OP!
>>4708179>Abigail takes priority.You sly motherfucker, OP.>>4708242Shuten's Battle Continuation is fucking busted.She's one of those Servants who are busted enough that defeat should be impossible. Unfortunately she is disobedient and might eat her own Master.At least by getting her captured we removed the chance of her melting and voring us in our sleep.>>4708291Shinji revealing a hostile takeover to the Clocktower.>>4708348I don't think so.Her space-time manipulation comes from a different place.>>4708352Let's not feed our useless kouhai/sister copy to gramps.>>4708387I can't wait for Reines to meet Waver's mystery benefactor
If we do go to the Mooncell, which of the Sakuras there would be Shinji's favourite?He says that he hates BB but I don't think Shinji has it in him to hate anything with Sakura's face.I think Kingprotea would probably be his favourite, then the original Sakura AI, then Passionlip, then Violet, then BB, then Meltlilith, then Kazuradrop (who is worst girl).I also really want to meet Extra Shinji to tell him to stop being a retard.
>>4708589That P0n0s goes in to Vag000?I think Shinji knows that already.>>4708673Technically Justeaze is still alive too.So realistically we can drag Iri out of the grail and then get Justeaze back as well. Just to fuck with Acht and his Time Alter Maid Army.
>>4708714Meltlilith would absolutely try to absorb one of our allies with an overpowered ability if we took them with us.Of course that means she'd try to absorb basically all of our allies and us.Melt's power is super scary.
>>4708736The good news is that when Kingprotea eats somebody they end up in Imaginary Number Space to be broken down/digested into mana. So we should be able to mount an escape if that happened. As would Sakura.Anyone else bar maybe Arc and Alitheia would be screwed though.Same should probably apply for Passionlip's Breast Valley if she didn't cube us first.
>>4708291Conquering Britain, for sure. And i really want the next villains (including Zolgen-Orochi) not to be jobbers. Most end up being quite worfed by everything we have on our side, or just appear to be dangerous but end up being... well, jobbers. Just really want some villains to actually feel like they pose permanent risks, not something we can just find roundabout ways to recover from, or that the worse they can do is send us to Taiga Dojo. But honestly, love the quest WhatIs, truly, and your writing is freaking amazing. I really enjoy this and i can't wait to see where the plot goes next;
>>4708742It should be pretty difficult for us to get Trashed as the ability hinges on an impossibility to function, which means it can be easily negated by Truth.
>>4708753Most of the villains we've fought had no gimmicks or powers we weren't aware of, holding less narrative weight as obstacles to our main character. Kirei was nothing power wise fighting a bloodlusted much stronger Rin.Zouken (first time) was blindsided.Roa got ganked in prison.Nero got hard countered but could've been a hard fight.Gilgamesh alone wouldn't have been more than a nuisance to 50 percent Arc.Only Manaka and Orochi have properly taken us by surprise.
>>4708763>Only Manaka and Orochi have properly taken us by surprise.And Orochi is a threat only because we underestimated Zouken and half-assed our assault. If we'd brought Avenger with us he would have no-selled the snake.
>>4708759Yeah but Trash and Crash is almost instantaneous unless you're fucking huge and even then it only took Kazura like twenty seconds to totally cube Kingprotea.It just crushes space, it doesn't try to erase us, which we obviously have innate resistance to.I doubt we'd be able to negate it if we were undefended when it happened to us before Passionlip turned us into a Rare Prism
>>4708767I think that if Orochi was desperate in the first encounter he would've swallowed Medea, then he would be an even bigger problem thanks to Rulebreaker and HSDWs.
>>4708771How does that help?
>>4708774It took him time to power up, shut down our Casters and nom Arcueid. Avenger would not have given him that time. Remember, Medea was able to teleport everyone away from Zouken's ritual chamber with no issue.
>>4708763>>4708767Yeah, and it's why i'm kinda nervous about the Alcides strat. If it goes so smoothly it'll be kind of a bummer. I really want to see Zolgen-Orochi be a true problem, for us to lose something against him that we can't just Truth/Taiga Dojo away. Well, at least he has his servants now, who knows? In any case, I have faith in WhatIs writing. Just a point i don't really like, but nothing that diminishes how much i like the rest.
>>4708777Avenger might be strong but Zolgen is a tricky fucker.He'd probably trick us all or something then do a Majin Buu and have a seperated head swallow Medea whole.I can't even begin to imagine how angry that would've made everyone, if Wormpa ate our wife.
>>4708778I too want based Wormpa to solve our harem issueOnly the strongest wife deserve to survive
>>4708778The Alcides strat, without the trojan whore, is how we go from "weakened Orochi" to "dead-for-good Orochi". It's going to work. The problem we now have is how to get to the point of triggering it, and it's not going to be easy.And I'd only want us to lose something permanent against him only if we're unprepared and/or stupid in the fight. Neither seems to be the case for now, thank god.>>4708781A newborn Orochi in an unfamiliar body with zero preparation? He would have never seen Avenger coming. Now, Orochi at the peak of his power, stronger than Arcueid, with time to prepare and Servants of his own is a different matter.
Good morning everyone.Will call and start wiriting in 30 minutes.
>>4708800Hopefully everything is going well WhatIs.
>>4708903He got isekai'd and became Shinji. jk, maybe?
>>4708907>Quest is actually a diaryWhat a twist!
>>4708291Aside from the Shinjibowl. I await mooncell shenanigans. Perhaps we could bring along Sakura on our mooncell adventure. That would be fun :)
>>4708943I believe that would be after we tear down the veil between the magical world and modern society when we take over Britain as our country of operations. Unless anons decide to go the political and monetary bribery route of course. I'm personally looking forward to the mage's association flipping out and completely confused at our existence, not sure whether to declare us as the 6th True Magic or some herald that brings forth magic back into the world not seen since the age of gods.
>>4708956We might be the Sixth, as the sixth supposed to be the Magic that saves the world from its inevitable decline and destruction.When you think about it Truth does do a lot that fits in with what the Sixth is supposed to be, as it is very much a counter to the things that represent the ultimate challenges humanity must face, namely the Beasts and other conceptually empowered enemies of humanity like certain DAAs and Ultimate Ones.
"Abigail takes priority, of course." You aren't going to let her stay in this world alone for any longer than she has to. "Candle-kun as well." You made a promise to it, and while you don't know what its motives actually are on account of it being incapable of proper communication in its current form, you made a promise to it that you would make it your familiar. Honestly, it probably just wanted to escape the basement, but seeing as it kept its word by leading you to Betty, you don't think that it's actually malevolent. Probably. Of course, you don't have the faintest idea of just what it might be. Your knowledge of the Lovecraftian Mythos isn't exactly extensive you know a few of the tales, but you're by no means an expert. Of course, that does beg the question of whether or not all of the tales written by H.P. Lovecraft exist in this world either, you haven't exactly looked them up, then again, you wouldn't have much of a reference point to go off of."Really?!" Betty suddenly seems much happier than she was about the idea of taking Abby out of the mental world. "You're really going to take Abby out with us? " She seems relieved that you actually want to take Abby outside with you, was she really hiding her emotions about her cousin so as not to accidentally influence your choice? You don't know how to feel about that. "Also... Candle-kun? Who's that?" The girl seems to not be aware of the existence of the shapeshifter sitting on Abby's shoulder.You point at the candle that is currently perched on Abby's shoulder. "It's something I found in the basement of your house, you wouldn't happen to know something about it, would you?" You really want to know just what the thing is, and Betty is your best bet at discerning the truth about it, especially right now. You suppose Touko, Aoko or one the Casters could help you examine it too, but it's probably just best to go from the source."Oh! I... I remember what that is!" There's a flash of recognition in Betty's eyes as she looks at the candle on the shoulder of her cousin. She's clearly surprised by the shape-shifting entity existing at all, and that concerns you, if only a little bit. It's never a good thing if something exists in your mind that you don't think is there at all."You do?" You didn't expect her to recognize it so fully regardless, so you decide to ask for some details by asking a simple question to have her elaborate.
"I didn't think it would be recreated here by my subconscious thoughts, but that's... that was the result of my first attempt in life to create the bodies and souls of... my family. It... didn't go well, so it ended up not resembling the souls of my family, or even having a physical form at all." That's... quite an alarming revelation. You were aware that Betty could create souls, seeing as she created everyone here as well as Betty, but a conglomerated lump of souls with it's own consciousness and ability to think of it's own? That's a pretty terrifying creation."So that thing is like... a sort of living soul then? Like a ghost?" Well, you couldn't call a ghost a living soul at all, really. A typical ghost is more like the lingering whispers of a soul, in most cases. A Heroic Spirit in their true form or a true wielder of the Third True Magic would be more apt to be called a living soul, but this thing clearly isn't on the level of either of those."Sort of like a ghost? I can remember it from when I was alive, I was scared, so I got rid of it as well, but it seems to have the ability to invade objects and absorb them in order to create a... copy of their appearance." Now, that's more frightening than you first thought. "I... never found out what would happen if it managed to assimilate a human, I was afraid of it and used my power to get rid of it a few minutes after I realized what I did." Betty sounds a little bit guilty to the candle motionlessly sitting atop Abby's shoulder. It's actually kind of terrifying that you left something like that with Abby without even really checking to make sure it was safe, but you somehow doubt that it's going to be a threat. It's obviously not evil, otherwise it almost certainly would've responded to your initial appearance with more hostility. It seems that it was just scared and confused. You make the choice to trust it for now, it doesn't seem to hold a grudge at Betty for erasing it the first time. It's not impossible to create blank slate souls in order to implant them into bodies, as that's one of the basic premises of the creation of Homunculi that makes them superior to more basic golems. However, the creation of a conglomerate of souls with the ability to think and exist without actually having a body means that this thing is vastly more advanced than the creation of simple blank slate souls. Not to mention that it had the ability to somehow rob the memories of Abby to make her forget about it when she took her eyes off of it. You don't know just how it did that, perhaps as a result of it's contradictory nature? A being like this soul shouldn't exist, so could it be the case that the souls of humans register it as if there was 'nothing there' when it is unobserved? It doesn't seem to be able to do the same to either you or Betty's memories though, so that's something at least.
"Interesting, well, my question still stands, will you be able to take it out with Abby? Or will that not be possible?" You still kind of want to take it with you, even if it might be dangerous. You're pretty certain you'll be able to control it."Mmm... I think it might be possible to take it with Abby, seeing as it... doesn't have a physical form that needs to be created." Betty seems to think it's possible, and you're a little relieved. If it were between breaking your word to a Candle and abandoning Abby to live another lonely day in this place, you'd break your word to the candle in an instant. Of course, that doesn't mean that you want to break your word, but it's just that it's... well it isn't at the top of your list of priorities. Maybe if it actually became something that was more capable of communicating, it would be of more help. Could it assimilate the structure of perhaps a notepad in order to write within itself? Or what about a puppet body, so that it could mimic a human? You have no intentions of actually letting this thing assimilate any humans. Seeing as it's a living clump of souls, it would probably just add the soul of the human unto itself, which... probably wouldn't be ideal. Then again, if this thing can effectively eat souls... You almost lose yourself to your thoughts before some motion from Abigail gets your attention.Abigail, finally managing to get over her initial confusion, storms over to Betty and forcefully hugs her younger cousin. "I don't really get what's going on, but... I was so worried about you, Betty! I'm glad that you're safe!" The two girls hugging each other brings a smile to your face. "Now, can you stop ignoring me? I've missed you so much!" Seems that Abby's patience really has reached its limit, you can't blame her for acting like this though.
"Abby... I'm... I'm glad you came to find me." Betty hugs her cousin back, and you smile at the display. "I've... missed you a lot, you know." The younger cousin really does seem happy to see her relative now, as the emotions she was holding back for the sake of your decision start to flow out now that her reunion with her cousin isn't going to be cut short. It probably wouldn't have been impossible to draw Abigail out of Betty's mental world at some point after dealing with Orochi, but... well, if Alan's time manipulation that has been applied to this world is still in place, you could very well be leaving the girl for an entire month if you were to simply leave her within this place for just a day on the outside, that would be a truly terrible experience for her, she might've even felt as if you had betrayed her. Not... really a good thing to do to a girl who very will likely has the same powers of a Silver Key as the original Abigail Williams, meaning that it could actually be possible for Abigail to escape all by herself, and that... probably wouldn't be good. "Alright... I think that it's about time for us to go." Betty takes a deep breath. "Everyone... hold on to me." Well, that's clearly directed only at you. Seeing as Abby is still hugging her cousin, so you do what comes naturally to you. You head pat both of the girls at the same time, and the world begins to fade out. You awaken, laying on the floor of Rin's basement, you had evidently managed to fall out of the chair somehow, and Betty is asleep in front of you. You can feel something... or rather, someone laying next to you. Dazed and confused. You start to get up, before the three Casters in the room all react to you waking up from your interaction with Betty's mind."Master?!""Husband?!""Magus." You can hear three different voices ring out in surprise at the same time as you get up off of the floor. Two very clearly worried about you, and the third just indifferent. It doesn't take a genius to work out the sources of each of the voices. You quickly get up off of the floor, picking the confused Abigail up from the floor with you. "Casters, there has been a change of plan. Betty will not be capable of providing us with the vessel for her sacrifice, in fact, she's probably going to remain asleep for a few hours, so I'm going to go find a bed for her to sleep in."
""Wait!"" Two of the Casters call out to stop you from leaving the room, and Medea keeps talking. "Who... Who is that girl? And... what happened to you inside that place?" They seem to be confused by the presence of the new arrival. Candle-kun is still on Abby's shoulder for now, you'll find a lantern to put it in later on or something. Or maybe you'll just have it take a new form. But besides Candle-kun, you do need to answer the question of the Casters.>"Oh, this is Betty's cousin. She was within the mental world, so I had Betty take her out for me.">"This is my third daughter, Abigail.">"What do you mean by what happened to me?">"This is Abigail Williams, the Silver Key and prodigal witch in the making. I'm going to be teaching her magecraft from now on.">Write-in...
>>4708992This is my third daughter, Abigail
>>4708992>>"This is my third daughter, Abigail."We kinda have to now
>>4708992>"Oh, this is Betty's cousin. She was within the mental world, so I had Betty take her out for me."Shouldn't we ask her first? It must all be very confusing for her.
>>4708992>"This is Abigail Williams, the Silver Key and prodigal witch in the making. We are going to be teaching her magecraft from now on. Oh and she is my third daughter now too. Abby, say hello to Medea, Tamamo and Morgan."
three daughters in less than 24 hours. There's no stopping the Shinji train.We might want to found Makiri School for gifted youngsters at this rate
>>4708992>"Oh, this is Betty's cousin. She was within the mental world, so I had Betty take her out for me.">"by the way, abby, do you want to be adopted by me?">"i'm going to teach her magicraft if she wants.">"What do you mean by what happened to me?">"also medea, can you slow down time in this room? Orochi is summoning servants or something, so any more time to think would help.">headpat both girlsits better to ask first.How much time we lost on the mind world?
>>4709007like 6 minutes
>>4709006>threeThe day is not over yet.
>>4708992>"Oh, this is Betty's cousin. She was within the mental world, so I had Betty take her out for me."
>>4709016>Loli Kiara as our 4th DaughterYes please
>>4708992Actually, scratch >>4708999. Changing to>"Oh, this is Betty's cousin. She was within the mental world, so I had Betty take her out for me.">"She is Abigail Williams, the Silver Key and prodigal witch in the making.">"Abby, I understand this must all be very confusing for you. Betty will sleep for a few hours. I will lead you to her room if you want to wait until she wakes.">"In the meantime, you should know I am her adoptive father, I will adopt you too if you want, and I can also teach you Magecraft from now on.">"Think about it, talk with Betty, and don't feel pressured to answer right away by all that's happening. I will support your decision whatever it may be.">Headpat Her>"And what do you mean by what happened to me?">>4709006Named such because all the students are members of the Makiri family.
>>4708992>>4709007change to >>4709024
>>4708992Switching from >>4709003 to >>4709024
>Shinji now has 3 daughters and anons are crying out for more.>No sons.How cucked can one man get?Maybe the trick is that Shinji will only get his sons after he route locks and has post-marital sex with his chosen woman. If that's the case then I suppose I can't complain...too much.
>>4709016Olga is our next daughter >>4709042our biological children will be our only sons