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The Grail War continues, and you're finally about to return to Fuyuki City.

You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.

To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have shifted the future away from the one that you once would have faced and instead onto one of uncertainty and chaos.

The Fifth Holy Grail War lies ahead of you, and the challenge and danger it represents to you, the people you care for and the world itself is far greater than you could have ever predicted. Though the grail might be corrupted and the war itself might be a sham, the stakes couldn't be higher.

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"Actually Archer, now that you're back with us an idea comes to mind. Would you be willing to let my teacher transfer your memories of the weapons you have stored up to Shirou?" With any luck, Archer sharing the contents of Unlimited Blade Works with Shirou will give the boy the ability to actually manifest his Reality Marble in addition to filling it with whatever swords Archer has seen over his service as a Counter Guardian.

"That's an awfully personal request you're making there, but... seeing what's at stake if we fail, I suppose I have no choice but to go along with it, after all, we do need to maximize our effectiveness, even if that means I need to share some of my memories with Shirou." Even if Archer is no longer scheming to kill his past self, that doesn't mean that he's ever going to get along with him. Despite being the same person, the two of them are completely incompatible when it comes to getting along with each other, honestly, you'd probably see Shirou rather become friends with Gilgamesh than you would see him become friends with EMIYA.

"Excellent, I'll go tell my teacher the next time I see her." You turn away from Archer and make to leave the room before you stop and turn to Medea. "but... there's one thing that I've been wondering for a while now. Medea, you can scry for people with your magic, can't you?" You decide to square something away after putting it off for too long, and now that you have Medea back with you then there's absolutely no reason not to keep yourself in the dark about Kiritsugu's fate.

"I can, Master." Medea responds in the positive, just as you thought she would, her grasp of magecraft is really incredible, so of course she has the ability to remotely locate people.

"Good, then can you please scry for Kiritsugu Emiya?" You give her the command without any hesitation, you want to know just why he never returned, and whether or not he ended up dying in his quest to retrieve Illya. Though it isn't really looking good for his chances of still being alive considering he just disappeared off the face of the planet after that day.

"What are you talking about? Kiritsugu Emiya should've died years ago!" Archer looks at you with an irritated glare, obviously he's not exactly aware of just how different that this timeline is to his own one. Even if he has a few ideas of his own about just what might be going on and why things are so different, you doubt he really knows the half of it.

"Well, yes, he would've died, but I took great advantage of Shirou's possession of Avalon and the existence of a girl I know of who is destined to act as the body of King Arthur, meaning that her magical energy is identical to Arturia's! Meaning...!" You cut yourself off to let Archer come to his own conclusion about what you were planning on doing with such a girl.
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"That you could use her to activate Avalon's healing abilities." Archer quickly realizes the truth behind what you're getting at, though he doesn't entirely sound pleased by this revelation. "Then you mean to tell me that my father is alive somehow? Then where is he?" Archer is clearly trying to keep his emotions about the revelation that his father might still be alive under control, and seems to be using irritation to hide his true thoughts on the matter.

"That's what I'd like to know, he took off a few years ago in an attempt to go and rescue Illya from the Einzbern, I really fear for the worst considering we never heard from him again after that day." Still, you find it hard to believe that Kiritsugu just up and died, even with all the evidence pointing towards his death, a serious Kiritsugu just doesn't feel like he's the sort of person who would end up dying on a mission, it's strange. Especially the fact that Illya seems not to have any actual knowledge of Kiritsugu's last attempted rescue of her.

"Very well, Master, give me a few moments." Medea pulls a crystal ball out of thin air. How very stereotypical of her to rely on such an item for something like this, a crystal ball for scrying for the location of somebody? Well, you suppose that it's not really that strange, it's probably far more convenient for her to use one instead of relying on a large bowl for scrying for people from. After the woman chants a few words in ancient Greek, the ball begins to shine brightly. Now, seeing as I have no knowledge of the man in which I am searching for, I require somebody with memories of Kiritsugu Emiya to touch the ball and to think strongly about him.

You're about to do as Medea asks before Archer suddenly steps forwards and places his hand on the floating crystal ball, and it flashes brightly for a moment before the glow stabilizes a few seconds after. "There. Tell me what you can see, Caster." It seems that despite his actions so far, Archer clearly misses his father, it seems that for Shirou, no matter what version of him, he will always have a great deal of respect for his father, even if he would disagree with his actions.
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"That's... odd." Caster doesn't sound very certain of just what she's looking at as she stares into the crystal ball. "I can see... that there are two beings that your recollection of the man seem to have found... One of them is in Germany, still and lifeless despite his body still drawing breath through some magical means, and the other is... the other is in Fuyuki City, but I am incapable of finding his exact location... I believe him to be in the castle in the forest... The one that the lunatic goddess I was told is residing in." There's disgust in her voice as she mentions Tamamo. "I might be able to teleport the one in Germany to us here, but from what I can see from here, there wouldn't be much point, his eyes are open yet there is no life in them." You grit your teeth, could Kiritsugu actually have had his soul removed from his body by the Einzbern as a result of a failed attack? But why would what you can only assume to be his soul be in Fuyuki? It doesn't make any sense!

>"Teleport his body to us anyway, Medea."
>"Leave his body for now, better to leave it in relative safety until we're certain of the situation."
>"Medea, would it be capable for you to transfer a magic crest from one person to another, even if they weren't blood related?"
>"Archer, it's your father, what do you think we should do?"
>Write-in...
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>"Teleport his body to us anyway, Medea."
Is the 2nd one him?
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>>4687816
>>4687808
Forgot post
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>>4687808
>"Teleport his body to us anyway, Medea."

WELP time to go back to the castle and find possible counter guardian Kiritsugu.
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>>4687808
>"Teleport his body to us anyway, Medea."
Goddamn, Acht gave Kiritsugu's soul to Illya as a doll? That's both fitting, and worse than I expected.
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>>4687808
>"Teleport his body to us anyway, Medea."
>"Mention that strange fox who seems to be Tamamo`s Master."
Oh. So that fox was actually a jail-body made to host Kiritsugu`s soul? Probably not even a real fox but a homunculus body made not to die fast like the rest of them.
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>>4687824
>"Teleport his body to us anyway, Medea."
>"Write in..." While we're at it could you please Scry for Ayaka Sajyou as well. I have a means of recruiting the king of heroes onto our side, while also procuring another Saber....
He's definitely trapped in doll and not a counter guardian. Einzbern are notorious for trapping people's souls in random objects. Let's scry for Ayaka while we're at it.
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>>4687832
>Oh. So that fox was actually a jail-body made to host Kiritsugu`s soul?
No.
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>>4687835
Dude, spoilers
:P
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>>4687832
>>4687824
>>4687822
>>4687818
>>4687816
Guys while Medea is searching for people let's also Scry for Ayaka so that we can pacify Gil and he won't be a problem later on. We don't even have to summon Saber Proto if you're against it.
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>>4687836
Is it really a spoiler if Shinji can easily come to the conclusion that that obviously wasn't what happened?
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Calling in 30.
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>>4687835
>>4687842
It would have been so inline with rest of Jubstacheit`s "master plans".
Putting dormant soul of Kiritsugu inside ageless artificially created animal but making it a bit too smart and being able to summon Servants by accident. Only for it to summon four tailed Tamamo by a whim of fate.
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>>4687842
Eh, kind of? It definitely wouldn't be if Shinji briefly considered it before discarding the thought in the next update. But then again I enjoy us going off in wild tangents that end up getting shat upon shortly.
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>"Teleport his body to us anyway, Medea."
>Get your abilities ready to heal him....again.
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>>4687849
Tamamo is more than talented enough a spellcaster to determine whether or not her master is a human trapped in the body of an animal or not. So it just isn't really a possibility.
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>>4687808
>"Teleport his body to us anyway, Medea."
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>>4687808
It's late and I was going to vote to leave the body where it is, but since we've got probably more than enough capable magi to keep him alive it's probably better to retrieve the body, especially if Einzbern realizes it's been scried on.

Still I suppose this moves priority of dealing with Tamamo up by quite a bit if we're to recover the spiritual component as well, right?
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>>4687808
>>"Teleport his body to us anyway, Medea."
fucking knew it
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>>4687803
>>4687806
>>4687808
OH NO HE'S WITH THE COUNTER GUARDIANS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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"Teleport his body to us anyway, Medea." You won't have the Einzbern maintain possession of Kiritsugu's body any longer than they already have, even if it likely has no soul within it, as that seems to be the modus operandi of the Einzbern, you aren't comfortable with just leaving his body in the hands of Jubstacheit to do whatever else he might feel like doing with it. It's honestly something of a miracle that they decided not to just destroy his original soulless body for some reason. Still, it's not as if they were expecting somebody to be able to simply teleport it out of their with ease through whatever magical defenses they might've put in place. To Medea, whatever bounded fields the Einzbern might've managed to put up around their castle over centuries would be little more than tearing through a barrier made out of sheets of paper. There's really no comparing the skill of Medea compared to the Einzbern. One of the only reasons that Medea is incapable of learning True Magic is that as a Magus that predates it, she is fundamentally incompatible with the Five True Magics of the Age of Man, otherwise you have no doubt that she would probably be capable of learning the secrets of True Magic as well, not unlike Touko, who seems to more suffer from a lack of motivation than an inability to wield them.

"Very well, Master." Medea doesn't hesitate for a moment as she begins to focus more on the target of her spell. Whatever defenses the Einzbern might have against the forced spacial relocation of a target that is incapable of resisting themselves easily being broken apart even at a distance of over nine thousand kilometers. She's terribly impressive when she's facing off against magi of the modern Era, you hadn't expected her range to be so tremendous, but then again, there isn't really any reason why it shouldn't be. She's one of the most talented spellcasters in all of history after all, so it might be the case that spacial relocation is one of her specialties. She draws forth her staff and thrusts it into the air, pumping quite a large amount of magical energy into the long ranged teleport, but not as much as she might've used had she not been empowered by Alítheia's blessing. The buffs to Medea's parameter's have actually made her a far more formidable opponent for anybody to face off against now, her agility parameter is around the level of an average Knight Class Servant now, and that's not even taking into account her magical abilities!

"Tροψα!"

There's a flash of bright purple light as Medea casts her magic, and soon there's a body of a man laying unconscious in the center of the room, next to the Kaleidosword is the sleeping body of Kiritsugu Emiya, he's wearing a pure white robe, and the parts of the body that you can see seem to be covered in... stitches? Like his body has been cut open and put back together again over and over for some reason. But... why?!
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Archer is silent as he looks at the unconscious body of his father, not that you can blame him, Kiritsugu's body is in a pretty terrible state right now, and it's a wonder that he's even alive, if even only in some meanings of the word, he certainly isn't going to be getting up and walking around any time soon. Not without a soul in his body. "As I thought, this body has no soul within it. The soul is being kept in the castle in Fuyuki." Medea sounds absolutely certain about that now, and you realize that you're going to need to come to a decision about what to do with Kiritsugu.

>"Alright, we'll head to the Castle immediately upon returning to Fuyuki, I might be able to get Tamamo on side and Kiritsugu's soul will be easy to find."
>"Medea, is this body at any risk of dying due to having been taken from where it was being kept? Do you know why they have stitched it together like this?
>"Is the Emiya magic crest present? If we can have it transferred to Shirou somehow, our odds of victory will shoot upwards."
>"Archer, what do you think we ought to do?"
>Write-in...
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>>4687946

>"Alright, we'll head to the Castle immediately upon returning to Fuyuki, I might be able to get Tamamo on side and Kiritsugu's soul will be easy to find
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>>4687946
>"Medea, is this body at any risk of dying due to having been taken from where it was being kept? Do you know why they have stitched it together like this?
Let's not rush to marry the fox yet.
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>>4687946
>"Alright, we'll head to the Castle immediately upon returning to Fuyuki, I might be able to get Tamamo on side and Kiritsugu's soul will be easy to find."
>"Medea, is this body at any risk of dying due to having been taken from where it was being kept? Do you know why they have stitched it together like this?"
>Write-in...

Give Archer some room, he might be about to go absolutely mental from seeing this. Get info on what the hell happened in Germany, and then scry on the Einzbern castle itself. I wanna know what activity has gone down there.
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There is going to be someone nuked from kilometers away by Archer, and I really only hope that they aren't someone we would consider a loss if he did it today.
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>>4687955
Support
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>>4687946
>"Alright, we'll head to the Castle immediately upon returning to Fuyuki, I might be able to get Tamamo on side and Kiritsugu's soul will be easy to find."
>"Medea, is this body at any risk of dying due to having been taken from where it was being kept? Do you know why they have stitched it together like this?"
>"Is the Emiya magic crest present?"
Last one just to check if Einzberns dabbled with idea of trying to copy Time Manipulation in some way.
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>>4687965
Support
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>>4687946
>>"Alright, we'll head to the Castle immediately upon returning to Fuyuki, I might be able to get Tamamo on side and Kiritsugu's soul will be easy to find."
>>"Medea, is this body at any risk of dying due to having been taken from where it was being kept? Do you know why they have stitched it together like this?
>>"Is the Emiya magic crest present? If we can have it transferred to Shirou somehow, our odds of victory will shoot upwards."
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>>4687955
+1, also I think its a dick move to harvest Kiritsugu for spare parts
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>>4687946
>What do we need to keep the body safe until we recover the soul?
>Let’s make recovering his soul a priority when we return to Fuyuki.
Might want to reconsider who to take with to deal with Tamamo, Sakura being out unless we can wait for her to reach us by chopper.
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>>4687946
>>4687965
Support
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>>4687978
I forget if Saber or Mordred is with us, either way, one of them, will do as they have high magic resistance
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>>4687981
Tamamo's Witchcraft has been shown to ignore Magic Resistance multiple times.
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>>4687978
>>4687981
From that vote we have
>Medea, the Ibaraki duo, SHIKI, Rin, Illya, the Maids, Mordred and Morgan.
With added EMIYA now.
It is really solid team for just about anything.
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>>4687946
>>"Alright, we'll head to the Castle immediately upon returning to Fuyuki, I might be able to get Tamamo on side and Kiritsugu's soul will be easy to find."
>>"Medea, is this body at any risk of dying due to having been taken from where it was being kept? Do you know why they have stitched it together like this?"
>>"Is the Emiya magic crest present?"
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Calling in 30.
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>>4687946
>>4687965
+1
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>>4687984
Alright so guess we gotta speech check Tamamo or out magic her since I don't really wanna kill her
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Tamamo is an easy woman to figure out however the most direct option to just marry her is suicide. We need to find a balance between us taking care of the kit and hopefully placating her.
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>>4688018
We should marry her. She's a part of the harem after all.
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>Castle Immediately
>>4687951

>Magical examination
>>4687954

>Immediate castle, examination, and give Archer some room before scrying on the the Einzbern Castle in Germany.
>>4687955
>>4687962
>>4687977

>Check Castle Immediately when you return, examination and check to see if crest is still there
>>4687965
>>4687969
>>4687980
>>4687986
>>4687991

>Immediate castle, examination, crest transfer?
>>4687971

>What do we need to keep the body safe? Let's make recovering the soul a priority.
>>4687978
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>>4688019
I dunno about that, I'm not into the whole fluffy tail fetish thing but if thats the cost saving emiya then it's a cost I'm willing to make. We already have a dragon daughter, I hope our kit "son" will get along. All hypothetical of course if we take that path going forward.
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>>4688029
Ew you're a emiya fan
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>>4688018
>>4688019
I don't wanna get route locked
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>>4688032
I'm not particularly fond of that tragic character however if we were to salvage his sorry state his revival would have much use in bringing happiness to illiya, archer and shirou alongisde some much needed closure. In part to prevent shirou's foolhardy idea of heroism which would lead to syria. Now if we were to revive the mother somehow that would mean the ultimate gift for illiya, and perhaps a doting mother for shirou. Either way I'm just seeing an opportunity for more character interactions which is what I'm aiming for.
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>>4688042
When we fuck chaldea we can use the FATE system to summon caster iri.
probably.
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>>4688044
Caster iri is the only way getting her now unless we want to trigger counter guardians messing with timelines.
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>>4688048
>>4688044
If Manaka can pull the servants from the grail, it might be possible for us to use truth to pull Iri from it.
Especially if it's something similar to Roa and there's a connection we can fondle.
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>>4688051
Yeah, I think it'll be very possible for us to pull Irisviel from the Grail after we deal with Manaka.
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"Alright, we'll head to the Einzbern Castle immediately upon returning to Fuyuki, I might be able to get Tamamo to agree to work together with us, and in that case, Kiritsugu's soul will be easy to find." Of course, getting Tamamo to agree to help may be easier said than done, she did seem a little bit insistent on marriage last time you were there, and you doubt that she's going to have eased up on that wish of hers in the few days you've been away from her.

"Understood, I've wanted to meet this Tamamo since I heard about her this morning anyway." Medea's voice is devoid of any trace of emotion, as if she's trying her absolute hardest to mask her true thoughts on Tamamo now that you've decided it might be of benefit to try to form an alliance with the woman. With any luck you'll be able to convince her that you don't need to marry her, or that she should at least wait to get to know you a little better before trying to go ahead and well... attempt to marry you.

You look down at Kiritsugu's body before you sigh. "Medea, do you know if this body is at risk of dying as it currently is? Or perhaps what the source of all of these scars could be?" You're very concerned about just what the Einzbern might've done to Kiritsugu, and you're pretty certain that EMIYA is silently fuming about what the Einzbern have done to his father, a step too far, it seems. You have your doubts that EMIYA is going to tolerate the existence of the Einzbern for very long if he ends up surviving till after the war. This is really crossing a line, and the implication that this entire time Acht had placed Kiritsugu's soul in some sort of inanimate object is just... too cruel. Especially in that seeing as his soul is still in Fuyuki, then that can only mean that Acht must've intended for Kiritsugu to not only watch Illya believe that he abandoned her, but also watch her die for the sake of the Einzbern. It's an unreasonably cruel thing to do to anyone, nobody deserves to be put through that.

"The body should be fine, it seems to be enchanted with a magecraft that is massively reducing the amount of sustenance that his body requires." Medea moves her hand over Kiritsugu's body and a soft purple glow shines upon it as she examines the body of the man. "Hmmph, a lot of this body has obviously been tampered with, his organs have all been removed and replaced, though they all seem to have been... harvested? Small pieces of each organ have been removed, nothing that would threaten a life though..." Medea looks at the body of the unconscious Magus Killer with a curious expression as she tries to figure out what the Einzbern might've been up to. "Perhaps for biological samples?"
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"Probably. The body of a magus is something that most magi would be able to find many uses for, even the Einzbern." Archer finally speaks, and through gritted teeth. "I imagine that one of their plans was likely to attempted to splice the Einzbern variety of Homunculi with the more resilient genes of a human in order to create more superior lesser grails like Illyasviel." Well, it is true that Illyasviel is a superior grail vessel than her mother was, but could it really have been as a result of sharing the genes of Kiritsugu? You suppose it can't really have been anything else. "Though I imagine that the organ harvesting that we've seen was more for research purposes, I do hope I don't need to tell you all how Homunculi are created." You shudder at Archer's implication, and you suddenly understand some more of his rage.

"The crest. Is the Emiya crest still present, Caster?" Desperate to change the topic, you decide to ask something else, if the Einzbern were trying to create bootleg variants of time alter, then their next generation of homunculi will be tremendously deadly. The idea of somebody like Sella, already beyond the limits of a normal human and capable of being able to fight a Servant defensively in a battle of strength being able to increase her speed and thought speed by a factor of four is terrifying. At that level she'd actually be able to defeat a Servant! A single homunculi!

"There is a magic crest... but it's clearly only part of a greater whole, and even then, it seems to have been tampered with as well." You grit your teeth. Whatever the hell Acht is planning, you aren't going to let him get away with this. The idea of an army of homunculi with that level of strength would be truly devastating! One more thing to resolve after the war is over, you suppose. If Acht really has started to attempt to create an unstoppable army of homunculi, then you might have a chance of usurping control over it thanks to Illya! Still, there's being a sore loser about the grail wars and then there's trying to form an army to secure victory for the next grail war. Though if he truly is trying to replicate Time Alter on an individual scale for his homunculi, then he's almost certainly not managed to get it working yet. All the while Illya has been kept none the wiser too. Despicable.

"What a dreadful thing to do to somebody." Rin suddenly squeezes one of Archer's hands, trying to reassure and comfort him, it must be terrible for Archer to see Kiritsugu in a state like this, the man had suffered enough already, and really doesn't deserve this sort of stuff anymore, his life has been one of suffering, and the fact that even after renouncing his goal to save others he is still suffering just isn't right. "Archer, are you OK?" Rin keeps talking, trying to assess just how poorly this situation has affected her Servant.
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"I'm... fine, Rin. I'm fine." Archer is shaken, unbelievably, the always cool and collected Archer is actually shaken, not that you can blame him at all for reacting like this, if Archer is acting like this, you can only imagine how Shirou might react. That being the case, should you tell Shirou about all this?

>Don't tell Shirou about Kiritsugu. You can tell him after you've saved Kiritsugu.
>Tell Shirou about Kiritsugu. It would be wrong if you kept him in the dark about this.
>Ask Archer whether you should tell Shirou or not.
>Write-in...
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>>4688098
did they fucking try to clone his organs to make a new....him?
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>>4688105
>>Ask Archer whether you should tell Shirou or not.
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>>4688105
>Tell Shirou about Kiritsugu. It would be wrong if you kept him in the dark about this.
No real reason to hide it from him. He'll be happy enough to know his father is alive for sure.

>>4688106
An army of homunculi with enhanced strength and his powers.
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>>4688105
>>Tell Shirou about Kiritsugu. It would be wrong if you kept him in the dark about this.
It would be very fucking wrong to not tell him.
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>>4688105
Ask Archer whether you should tell Shirou or not
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>>4688105
>>4688112
fuck i'm switching to
>>Tell Shirou about Kiritsugu. It would be wrong if you kept him in the dark about this.
it'd be wrong to not tell him, he's our best bro
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>>4688105
Actually, I'd like to change my vote from >4688113 to
>Write-in
>Tell Shirou AND Illya as soon as possible. Both of them deserve to know.
Didn't we send Shirou ahead with Sakura anyway?
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>>4688105
>Tell Shirou about Kiritsugu. It would be wrong if you kept him in the dark about this.
If we tell shirou are we going to tell illya as well?
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>>4688105
>>4688124
+1
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>>4688124
>>4688105
Support
Also, maybe we could ask Ilya if she remembers being given some item by Acht around the time Kiritsugu dissapeared? Maybe she already knows where his soul is stored.
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>>4688105
>>4688124
Switching to this.
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this vaguely reminds me of the orphan basement scene, this is how he's gotta confront his ideals this time around
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If we tell Shirou this, he.....may actually want to kill someone
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>>4688124
Support.
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>>4688124
Support.
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>>4688142
True. But we can at least try and stop him from doing so. We want Shirou to be Batman, not The Punisher if that makes any sense.
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>>4688105
change >>4688118
to >>4688124
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20 minute call.
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Does Truth healing apply to fixing the crest?
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>>4688327
Good question. Gonna say maybe since we were able to heal fucking Arcueid and fix her hair.
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>>4688327
If only we knew a magus who was an expert at repairing and altering crests.
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>>4688327
He could i just checked shinji's status page and the section under truth healing says >This allows him to repair damaged magic circuits and magical crests
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>>4688338
Huh, we need to tell Waver when we see him.
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>>4688340
That might be the best infodump to date.
Now that I think about it, this quest is very much about infodumps; characters give infodumps, players give infodumps, the protagonist sits through infodumps he already knows to create the illusion that he doesn't, the protagonist will even cut off characters while they are infodumping to give a more comprehensive infodump.
There is even a role reversal of this where the protagonist will start an infodump only to be blindsided by an infodump that invalidates what he thought previously.
We even have special interludes about characters receiving infodumps from eachother, just so the readers don't miss an opportunity to read an infodump.
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>>4688340
Going to the Clock Tower and fixing a magic crest like that is an excellent way to get yourself Sealing Designated on the spot.
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>>4688356
> this quest is very much about infodumps
This entire franchise is very much about infodumps, thank you very much.
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I refuse to read a fate quest whatis, so I must ask what the new disclaimer on the OP image means.
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>>4688357
You say that like we don't have a list as long as Touko's waiting for us. Luckily, we can just take a page out of her book dealing with them.
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>>4688360
There's a relatively obscure character from some side material who will be showing up in this thread, who is effectively just Dante from Devil May Cry.
All we know about his character design is that he looks like Dante.
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>>4688360
there's a character in the Nasuverse called Enhance who's supposed to look like Dante from Devil May Cry
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>>4688359
It is, but as a meta quest we are free to infodump not to supply necessary information to readers or characters, but to engage purely for the artform.
Why else would we make such flippant revelations if not to engage in the dance of explanation?
Surely there can be no tactical advantage to constantly baffling one's allies in such a way.
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"Well, we need to tell Illya and Shirou, that much is certain." You can't just keep the two of them in the dark about this, it's too important to just let slip by while you try to resolve the situation, the two of them have a right to know just what happened to Kiritsugu, and this... might spark something of a hatred towards the Einzbern in both of Kiritsugu's children. Even the normally restrained Archer looks livid at the events that have occurred, and while he is probably happy at the idea of being able to see his father alive again, in his current state, it might've been kinder if he were to have just been allowed to die. Though at least with how things have ended up, there is still a chance to save Kiritsugu, it's not like he's doomed completely, though whatever torture he suffered at the hands of the Einzbern was undeserved considering that while he might've done a lot of wrong things in his life, his dealings with the Einzbern and his 'betrayal' of them in destroying the grail most certainly was not wrong.

"You really think it's a good idea to tell Illya?" Archer raises an eyebrow at you. "I can understand the logic behind telling myself, but Illya... She's... not really the sort of person who will respond well to being told something like this, you'd basically turn her entire world completely upside down." Archer sounds hesitant to tell Illya about all this, and he is right, the girl will probably lose her temper very quickly, and might even refuse to believe you without being shown the evidence... which will just make things worse when she realizes you were telling the truth. It looks like despite everything, Archer just can't bear the idea of making Illya upset.

"I promised I wouldn't lie or hide anything from her, Archer. That includes something like this, she's got a right to know just as much as Shirou has." For as much as Archer might want to protect his... younger older sister, she really does deserve to know what happened to Kiritsugu, after all, when this war is all said and done, it's not really like you've got any real reason to allow the Einzbern to continue existing after this grail war, at least not without some major reforms, and you feel like letting Illya know that this is what Acht has been up to for years while feeding her lies about her father is really going to give her the impetus she needs to want to change the Einzbern completely.
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>>4688357
Why go there? I imagine Reines wouldn't object to coming to Japan and keeping a secret for a while. Avoiding conflict with the Clocktower long-term would be very difficult anyway. And why Sealing on the spot, didn't the Arda inheritance promise to do just that?
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>>4688370
This is why I'm mad we skipped Case Files. Just so we could info dump whenever Waver made a deduction.
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"Fine." Archer doesn't sound pleased by your decision, but he doesn't sound like he's ready to argue with you about it, deep down he probably understands that it's for the best as well, he might love Illya and want to protect her even now, but there's a limit to how much protection the girl needs. She doesn't need to be coddled, nor does she need to have painful truths hidden away from her. "You go and tell her and Shirou then, I don't need to tell you all that I'd much rather you all keep my identity a secret from everyone else, right? It'll be easier on Saber if she doesn't know who I am." Archer really does seem to enjoy self-sacrifice, ah well, there's not much that can be done about it now.

"Very well, Archer." You agree not to reveal his identity to the rest of your group, and it's probably for the best that he keeps it a secret from the likes of Illya and Shirou. You don't even know how Saber or Mordred or even Morgan would react to the existence of Archer now either, considering what sort of relevance that Shirou now has to them as the future husband of Arturia. You honestly still cannot believe that the proposal ended up happening like that, let it never be said that King Mordred doesn't have bouts of brilliant inspiration.

You leave Rin and Archer in the basement with Kiritsugu's sleeping body, you have no doubt that Archer will take good care of the body of his father in your absence, but before you go off to tell Illya and Shirou about Kiritsugu, you need to decide who you're going to tell first.

>Shirou.
>Illya.
>Get them both together before saying anything.
>Write-in...
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>>4688378
>>Get them both together before saying anything.
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>>4688378
Illya
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>>4688377
Seconded. It would have been immeasurably satisfying.
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>>4688377
I don't think Waver would want to be friends with us anymore if we did that.
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Isn't Shirou currently with Sakura on the way back home?
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>>4688370
You need to time your infodumps properly, otherwise you might end up infodumping to the wrong person. Like Nyarlathotep.

>>4688376
There's a lot of awkward questions that Waver and Reines would be facing if they did that.

>>4688377
>>4688382
Case files would've been humorous, I will say that, if only for how exasperated Waver would end up getting.

>>4688383
You mean he wouldn't like his detective time to be ruined by somebody who casually reveals the plot and motive of every single case like you were somebody who literally just skipped to read the last three pages of a murder mystery?
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>>4688385
No anon, they didn't leave immediately, everyone is waiting until everyone is together before you all just set off.
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>>4688378
>Get them both together before saying anything.
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>>4688378
>Get them both together before saying anything.
>>4688388
Using metaknowledge in a Grail War is acceptable but using it in a mystery novel is just being a dick.
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>>4688388
>There's a lot of awkward questions that Waver and Reines would be facing if they did that.
Couldn't they just hide the fixed Crest for some time? It's not like they have to tell everyone immediately.

>>4688390
Huh, I thought we were currently burning time while they were in transit.
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>>4688378
>Get them both together before saying anything.
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>>4688397
>Using metaknowledge in a Grail War is acceptable but using it in a mystery novel is just being a dick.
Our metaknowledge isn't entirely reliable even in the Case Files. Animusphere succeeded somehow, for example.
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>>4688378
>Get them both together before saying anything.
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>>4688398
>Couldn't they just hide the fixed Crest for some time? It's not like they have to tell everyone immediately.
They couldn't hide it forever and questions would eventually arise. The El-Melloi would get in an incredible amount of hot water if they knew the location of a guy who could fix an unfixable magic crest and didn't divulge it.
Up until the war, you were kind of trying to keep a relatively low profile with stuff like that just in case.

>>4688402
>Animusphere succeeded somehow, for example.
You may have a different definition of success to my definition of it. Marisbury is not having a good time at all.
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>>4688408
>spoiler
I got the feeling as soon as Merlin showed his face.
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>>4688377
It's so fucking annoy too because if we did go, we would've literally just fucked around and have been Mycroft to Waver's Sherlock and spend more time just bribing Moneybills and making Olga our apprentice instead of now where we're worried about Merlin and have no idea what Moneybills is up too. The impatience made things harder
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>>4688408
I think conflict with the Clocktower is inevitable at this point. The time for keeping a low profile with them is rapidly coming to an end.

>spoiler
The presence of Merlin indicates his experiments were more successful than what we saw in the Case Files, but yeah, we don't really know what's up with him. It's one of the reasons we'll be meeting Waver shortly.
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>>4688378
>Get them both together before saying anything.
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>>4688420
FGO Moneybills and Case Files Moneybills are different for sure. He doesn't seem to have abandoned Olga so it's looking like the FGO timeline, guess we need to kill Lev so Olga doesn't become an alien goddess, unless he already did it himself
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>>4688441
The way I understood it was that the point of divergence was him winning the Grail War and setting up everything with the money he wished for. This obviously didn't happen here. I wonder what changed for him.
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>>4688455
Actually, the point of divergence was deciding on participating in the HGW, if the grail is corrupted he gives up and does other things, if it isn't, he goes in and slaughters with Solomon cheat codes. Seems like it's a mesh of both since in the corrupted timeline he abandoned Olga and he didn't seem to do that here?
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>>4688378
>Get them both together before saying anything.
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>>4688378
>Get them both together before saying anything.
>>4688398
>>4688420
We are going to conquer england anyway, we will have to fight the clock tower or at least a part of it.
Fixing the crest would give us a lot of leverage with Reines and maybe give us another girl wanting to fuck us, considering that waver is very much probably gay for iskandar.
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>>4688622
Reines would love some superior Makiri genes.
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>>4688622
>spoiler
No, no, no, we can't do our boy Waver wrong like that. We did it right for Shirou and Saber, let's do the same for those two.
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>>4688732
Waver is for Adashino.
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>>4688736
Adashino is a cold hearted bureaucratic bitch. You're saying that only because you want Reines for yourself.
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This just made me remember.
Does the dragon blood help with magic? If so we should do it with waver if he accepts, the dude in canon would be fucking scary if he didnt have very shit circuits.
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>>4688745
That's a good point, I agree.
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>>4688732
Waver is for Taiga coward
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>>4688745
Dragons passively create mana just by existing, depending on how it manifests in a person you might get a dragon reactor core and have have an effectively infinite supply that just has a regeneration rate cap.

But Waver has the option of being a non-scuffed pseudo servant as Zhuge Liang died of overwork so when summoned into Waver's body he just leaves his powers and skills and goes for a nap because he's done with life. Waver gets to keep his own personality with all the pseudoservant buffs and perks.

On another note, dragonloli would be worth bringing to meet the fox, as its either a reverse cuckhold moment and Tamamo is happy to adopt her or a much more durable Truth existence flattens the fox for hurting her Dad. Medea and Shinji going as a couple may also discourage Tamamo as he can claim he had already formed a contract with a wife figure, but that might make anti-Medeafags seethe about a harder route lock.

Alternatively bringing Sakura for magic nullification along with the high level spellcasters like Medea and Morgan + Arc to beat Tamamo in a magic off, and/or letting Herc and EMIYA tag team snipe Tamamo from a distance if she gets out of hand.

If you wanted to make Shirou and EMIYA incredibly anti divine, there is always Laevatein, Surtr's sword, or Vasavi Shakti projectiles. Speaking of, Karna is actually around and almost allied once the meet up with Ciel happens.
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>>4688743
Wavers charm will melt her cold snake heart.
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>>4688745
Dragon blood turns your magic circuits into a magic core, it's the equivalent of going from a car battery to a factory. Likely more perks too like enhanced physical abilities and higher defenses, dragon blood can straight up make you as strong as a servant
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>>4688757
If we wanted to kill Tamamo we could just nuke the castle, we don't need to do the whole song and dance and meet up with her
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>>4688759
>>4688757
>>4688751
Very nice.
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>>4688761
Risking kerrytugu's soul as collateral damage though
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>>4688732
I thought he dislikes the relationship with her and her family. If anything he wants to escape it and is only there because of guilt towards her family for stealing the catalyst.
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>>4688764
Also, I'm sure we can deal with her without demolishing Illya's vacation home. Letting Avenger loose will be enough, I think.

>>4688765
Waver just loves to grumble.
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>>4688757
>ugly old bastard next door replaced by evil foreigner witch
Poor Tamamo.
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>>4688773
>Poor Tamamo.
Crazy bitch deserves everything she's going to get, Avenger was absolutely right.
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>>4688378
>get them both together
This is gonna go poorly. Poor Illya.
>>4688420
We've got enough firepower to take control of the Clocktower if we're sneaky enough.
>>4688804
She's done nothing wrong.
She just wants a reliable husband to love her.
>>4688455
Didn't Chaldea explode or something?
That's quite a big divergence.
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>>4688378
>>Get them both together before saying anything.
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Who is the better daughter, Betty or Alitheia?
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>>4688860
I personally think Alitheia is the superior daughter.
She's forgiven us for trying to murder her and even blessed us and Medea.
She's a good girl.
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>>4688860
>>4688865
Bad parent, anon.
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>>4688867
Alitheia doesn't fall asleep at crucial moments and we can use her to announce our arrival to Britain.
We don't need to hide mystery if we can flood the world with mystery.
Alitheia is best daughter.
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>>4688860
Miyu.
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>>4688860
>>4688865
>>4688871
Can you stop samefagging with your shitty parenthood opinions? We love all our daughters equally. Betty has saved our ass more than once already.
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>>4688875
We don't have Miyu yet.
In fact she either might not exist or could be living happily with her family.
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>>4688877
Yeah but objectively our biological daughter is superior.
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We should make Taiga our babysitter.
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>>4688875
We should add miyu to the list of people we're going to scry once we get back to fuyuki.
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>>4688885
So Miyu, Olga Marie and who else?
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>>4688886
Zouken and ayaka i guess.
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>>4688885
>>4688886
Kiara.
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>>4688891
She's not really relevant but I guess a teleport couldn't hurt.
We'll just heal her.
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Kiara, Olga, Betty and Alitheia.
Too many daughters.
Let's kidnapadopt Sigma.
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>>4688906
Harem members cant kill you if the are too busy taking care of adopted daughters with sad backstory.
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>>4688912
Anon you're a genius.
We need to find more tragic daughters.
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>>4688917
>more tragic daughters
Isn't Manaka one, technically?
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>>4688923
I doubt Manaka wants to be treated like a daughter considering she killed her own dad.
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>>4688928
In that case, we're already halfway there on her treating us like her own father.
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I kind of really want to end up in the Moon Cell just to terrorize BB and the Sakura 5 there.
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>>4688932
I think Left Manaka might have a crush on us.
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>>4688937
I forget, is that the more deranged one?
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>>4688939
The more deranged one is Manaka R.
She's the Arthur obsessed Proto Manaka.
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>>4688940
Aren't both of them Arthur obsessed? I am rather unclear on the differences, other than the most obvious.
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>>4688944
I think the implication is that Manaka R is insane and that Manaka L is just there because R convinced her or something.
I doubt L gives a shit about what R wants to do or anything at all.
L was noticeably nicer to us than R was too.
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>>4688945
I thought it was the otherway around, where left was more manic and unstable and thus willing to make deals and right was more detached and generally disapproving of us.
My take is that left is the one actually ascending, while right is the observer.
That makes more sense to me because left is the one trying to put pressure on us to use our powers to help them, while right doesn't seemed slightly annoyed that she was bothering to mess around with us.
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So does anybody have any good ideas for convincing people like Tamamo and Manaka to not be batshit insane?
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>>4688956
I think it was good cop bad cop.
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>>4688957
The next time we have a dream we should go and talk to manaka try to see if we can talk things out i assume there are things that she can only say in a dream since the other one can't observe us in the dream.
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>>4688957
I wonder if Tamamo has been watching us and if that would make her more or less crazy. I don't think there's much we can do about her other than express our disinterest as well as our preexisting life and feelings.
I don't really want to kill her despite her being a terrible person.
As for Manaka, I don't think there's going to be a return to sanity for her. She's already halfway to being space spaghetti to my understanding.
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>>4688956
Also the one with the excalibur hole in her chest is a disgusting pseudo-zombie that only craves Pendragon dick.
Obviously not the less villainous one.
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>>4688957
It is generally not possible to convince people to stop being batshit insane. That probably goes double for crazy chicks with reality-altering powers.
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>>4688962
Tamamo isn't a terrible person.
She's just got bad luck.
She's no more terrible than Medea is.
>>4688964
I think we can manage it.
Crank that charisma up.
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>>4688966
>Psychiatrists hate him!
>Learn how to stop being batshit insane with one simple trick!
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>>4688966
I'm just saying, maybe after the third dead or destitute ex husband it starts being your fault.
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>>4688966
>She's no more terrible than Medea is.
I don't remember our first meeting, or any other interaction, with Medea being all that similar to our first meeting with the fox.
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>>4688968
I don't see you coming up with any better ideas.
>>4688970
They just didn't have what it takes to handle a cute fox wife.
>>4688972
Granted she may have gone a little too far, but we got to pet a fox cub. Then we sperged out and ran away instead of trying to talk to her.
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Tamamo is a pushover in extra.
She done less evil things in all of extra games than Medea did in FSN.
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>>4688977
>I don't see you coming up with any better ideas.
I don't see why "kill all of them" isn't a better idea by default.
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>>4688978
I don't care what she did in extra. I care that we barely escaped from a shotgun wedding with a batshit crazy fox.
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>>4688977
I know that fox spirits talk like humans, and also mostly look like humans, but they are monsters that have no real regard for their targets.
Sure, in her mind she loves us, but that love has consumed three men before us and she shows no sign of concern or introspection about it.
Fox wives end lives anon.
>>4688978
What she did in Extra isn't really representative of what she's like long term.
Remember that it was over the course of several decades that she brought her previous hosts to ruin.
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>>4688980
>>4688981
Going by this logic we can just go mind of steel and kill most of cast.
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>>4688978
Yeah she's nowhere near as bad as she's supposed to be.
She's just a dumb fox who desperately wants someone to love.
>>4688979
Killing everyone is never a good idea. It's not like Tamamo did us any permanent harm.
>>4688980
Aggressively trying to marry somebody doesn't deserve death.
>>4688981
Tamamo doesn't deserve your slander. She did nothing wrong.
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>>4688983
I'm not saying we should avoid her because she's evil, I'm saying we should avoid her because she has Life Ruiner:(EX).
>>4688985
She did a ton of things wrong.
That's the whole point of the legend.
It's about falling in love with someone self destructive and getting rekt because of it.
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>>4688983
>Going by this logic we can just go mind of steel and kill most of cast.
What kind of pretzel logic is that, you fucking furry? No one else has done anything similar to the crazy fox lady.

>>4688985
>Killing everyone is never a good idea. It's not like Tamamo did us any permanent harm.
Yet. And only because we escaped.
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>>4688986
We're incredibly close to both the Witch of Betrayal and the Knight of Betrayal who both ruined everything.
Are we really going to judge Tamamo on her backstory?
It's not like her Fate backstory is harsh to her at all. She did nothing wrong.
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>>4688990
>fox ears and tails
>furry
I see the chief officer of the retard patrol has arrived.
>Yet.
What do you think she was going to do?
Steal our virginity?
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I want a fox wife.
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Coomers will be the end of us.
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>>4689005
For a quest like this I prefer coomers to murder fetishists, though it makes us vulnerable to a honeypot.
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Why are we even talking about killing her when her spirit would just go to Sakura or Illya?
I mean I guess with Sakura might just destroy the soul of she kills her but I'd rather not take that chance.
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>>4689015
That's part of the reason why I don't care to go out of our way to kill her if she isn't being a complete blockade in the way of our objective.
Hell, part of her legend is being a huge problem even in death.
>>4689020
Tamano is a used up old hag.
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Strange to see this kind of discussion over somebody like Tamamo and not Gil or Kirei.
Whole "scheming tyrannical fox wife" shit was solved in EXTELLA in rather easy way with Tamamo solving her emotional issues just by having a Master who had trust in her.
>>4688945
>>4688956
Oh yes, Two Manakas Riddle.
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I think there's a clear winner here.
Gimme a sec to write this.
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>>4689037
Fox wife?
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>>4689037
I have really important thing to ask:
Would Altrouge do vampire ojou heroine impression is we were to ask her nicely?
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>>4689015
That's a legitimately good point that I hadn't considered. Is there anyone we can arrange a marriage with?
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>>4689042
What are you trying to say here?
>>4689051
You'd have to ask her that yourself.
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>>4689057
Fox wife
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You'll get the two of them together before you tell them anything about what has just happened. If Shirou is with her, then that means you've got a better chance of keeping Illya calm, you hope. Then again, with Archer's reaction being so poor to what happened to Kiritsugu, Shirou's reaction is probably going to be even worse. Archer came to terms with Kiritsugu's death at least decades ago, and maybe even longer depending on just how long he has been acting as a Counter Guardian throughout time for. Shirou on the other hand hasn't at all come to terms with the potential death of Kiritsugu, seeing as it was never actually confirmed, so this... this might end up having a profound effect on the boy.

Thankfully, Shirou is almost certainly going to still be in the dining room and after a quick journey back, you indeed end up finding him there. Nobody even really questions the explosion from the basement, they either didn't hear it, or they've come to terms with the fact that Rin is really quite noisy when it comes to developing her magecraft, either way, none of them came to check it out other than yourself, so you can only assume that they imagined it wasn't a threat and that you had it handled. You have no idea how Akiha might be taking her mansion being used in such a disrespectful manner, but the stakes are a little too high to pay heed to things like basic etiquette right now.

"Shirou, would you mind coming with me for a second, I need to talk to you and Illya about something very important." You tell the boy with a neutral yet serious voice. You need to let him know that what you're about to tell him is serious, but you don't want him or anybody else in the room to get suspicious or worried about what you might tell him.

"Oh, uh... Yeah, sure. Would you mind staying here for a moment, Sab-... Arturia." Shirou corrects himself halfway through his sentence, seems like he's decided to call Saber by her true name from now on as well, there's not really point behind keeping True Names hidden anymore anyway, and Saber clearly prefers him referring to her by her given name. It's nice to see that the two of them have such a positive relationship already.

"Not at all, Shirou." Saber says calmly as she looks at you with a curious glance, clearly she's interested in what you're acting so seriously about, but she respects Shirou's privacy too much to want to eavesdrop on a conversation that she might not be involved in, even if she does actually know Kiritsugu from the previous grail war. Shirou quickly gets up and follows you out of the room and into the hallways.
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"What's up, Shinji?" Shirou asks you, he's clearly as curious about you acting like you are right now as Saber was, but you just shake your head instead of giving him a proper response yet. It would be better if you were to tell them both at once so that they could bond over the knowledge... or something. You don't really know whether it will work that way, but it's worth a shot.

"Sorry, but I need to get Illya too, this is some news that... well it affects both of you, and I feel like you've both got a right to know what I've just uncovered." You say no more than that as you begin to walk towards Illya's room. The journey isn't a very long one, but it feels like it takes longer than it actually does, there's a part of you that's dreading having to tell the two of them about Kiritsugu, his current state, and what must've been done to him by the Einzbern to make him like this. This is going to be a real terrible experience for everyone involved, you can feel it.

Soon you're at the door to Illya's room, and you knock on the door of the room. "Illya, it's me, can I come in? I need to talk to you about something important." You keep your voice serious as you address Illya as well, letting the girl know that you aren't just making a social call.

"Oh. Come in, Shinji." Illya's voice echoes through the door, and you don't wait any longer to open the door and walk inside, flanked by your Servants and followed by Shirou. "What did you want to talk about... and why do you look so serious?"

>"Kiritsugu is alive... but he's in a coma."
>"Kiritsugu is alive, but has had his soul removed by the Einzbern."
>"The Einzbern tortured Kiritsugu, harvested his organs, and probably placed his soul inside a doll."
>"Did Acht ever give you any dolls or bears or plush toys, Illya?"
>Write-in...
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>>4689128
>"The Einzbern tortured Kiritsugu, harvested his organs, and probably placed his soul inside a doll."
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>>4689128
>The Einzbern tortured Kiritsugu, harvested his organs, and probably placed his soul inside a doll
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>>4689128
>>"The Einzbern tortured Kiritsugu, harvested his organs, and probably placed his soul inside a doll."
>>"Did Acht ever give you any dolls or bears or plush toys, Illya?"
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>>4689128
>"Did Acht ever give you any dolls or bears or plush toys, Illya?"
>"I'm asking because the Einzbern tortured Kiritsugu, harvested his organs, and probably placed his soul inside a doll."
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>>4689128
>"The Einzbern tortured Kiritsugu, harvested his organs, and probably placed his soul inside a doll."
A bombshell even the equivalent of Charisma: B isn't going to make hurt less.
Oh well, time to bond over Achthate I guess.
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>>4689128
>"The Einzbern tortured Kiritsugu, harvested his organs, and probably placed his soul inside a doll."
>"Did Acht ever give you any dolls or bears or plush toys, Illya?"
Acht better be prepared for his one way trip to super hell.
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>>4689128
>>"Kiritsugu is alive, but has had his soul removed by the Einzbern."
>>"Did Acht ever give you any dolls or bears or plush toys, Illya?"
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Can Acht even feel pain? I suspect it will become relevant before long.
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>>4689146
does he even have a soul? if yes we should make so he don't have one anymore.
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>>4689128
>"Kiritsugu is alive, but has had his soul removed by the Einzbern."
>"The Einzbern tortured Kiritsugu, harvested his organs, and probably placed his soul inside a doll."
>"Did Acht ever give you any dolls or bears or plush toys, Illya?"
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>>4689128
>"The Einzbern tortured Kiritsugu, harvested his organs, and probably placed his soul inside a doll."
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I hope we can pull Iri out of the grail after we get Kerry's soul back in his body.
I want to see him be genuinely happy for once.
I wonder how he will feel about our planned empire building with Mordred.
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>>4689149
>"Tell me, does a golem like yourself feel fear?"
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>>4689128
Did Acht ever give you any dolls or bears or plush toys, Illya?"
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>>4689149
I'm more then willing to learn Truth Torture.
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>>4689153
>I hope we can pull Iri out of the grail after we get Kerry's soul back in his body.
I hope so too, but for hers, Illya's and to a lesser extent Shirou's sake. Kerry wouldn't deserve this otherwise.
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Frankly we can probably trash old man Acht in a matter of few hours with buffed teleportation by sending in a kill team.
Nice team building and assault exercises as well.
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>>4689161
You are assuming we know the full extend of his powers. We have been surprised in this way before, and we know he's been studying Kiritsugu to upgrade his forces.

Besides, I'd like us to find a way to spare the homunculi if possible. And we should leave something more than a smoking crater for Illya to inherit.
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>>4689161
You can kill Acht in a few hours, but how long will it take to kill the pain and deception he inflicted on our friends?
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>>4689161
we can just nuke the castle, but that would kill the other homunculi there.
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>>4689174
Couple months, tops, if we can pull Iri out of the Grail.
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>>4689128
>"Did Acht ever give you any dolls or bears or plush toys, Illya?"
>"The Einzbern tortured Kiritsugu, harvested his organs, and probably placed his soul inside a doll."
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Sure would be nice to have an assassin right now jfc
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>>4689187
We have Ciel.
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>>4689208
We also have a cloak that gives anyone who wears it Assassin's only worthwhile skill.
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>>4689171
>>4689174
>>4689176
Fair. Cleaning it up will take a lot of time and coup with upgraded Illya might work better to help homunculi.
>>4689187
Took me some time to remember we had Shuten. Even recalled speculations about which assassin to summon few threads back first.
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>>4689217
Gay Baby Jail, otherwise known as, The Prison of Penultimate Irrelevancy.
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>>4689217
>had
Man poor Shuten got shafted hard.
She's a god tier Servant and we just left her in Manaka's prison.
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>>4689171
We have multiple servants, a dragon and the strongest vampire, I think we can kill an old man that's been playing around with some guy's body
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>>4689221
For a super magic prison, gay baby jail sure is bad at keeping people captive.
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>>4689222
We will get her back, hell, we saving her may very well make her take us seriously.
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>>4689225
We can definitely kill him, yes. Killing him without excessive damage will be much trickier though.
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Just got back from grocery shopping, calling in twenty.
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>>4689256
Hey, WhatIs, since we are on the topic of Shuten right now if we had her with us after the temple assault did you had any plans for interesting scenes with her? Apart from Ibaraki of course.
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>>4689265
Well, there would've definitely been a few interactions between Shuten and the Tohno.
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>>4689273
What did you get from Trader Joe's?
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>>4689282
A lot of instant ramen.
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>>4689128
>"Kiritsugu is alive, but has had his soul removed by the Einzbern."
>"The Einzbern tortured Kiritsugu, harvested his organs, and probably placed his soul inside a doll."
>"Did Acht ever give you any dolls or bears or plush toys, Illya?"
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>>4689128
>>"Did Acht ever give you any dolls or bears or plush toys, Illya?"
>>"I'm asking because the Einzbern tortured Kiritsugu, harvested his organs, and probably placed his soul inside a doll."
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>>4689128
>"Did Acht ever give you any dolls or bears or plush toys, Illya?"
>"I'm asking because the Einzbern tortured Kiritsugu, harvested his organs, and probably placed his soul inside a doll.
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"Illya... Did Acht ever give you any dolls or bears or plush toys or anything that seemed... unusual at the time?" Acht isn't exactly the sort of 'grandfather' who would do something like that, most of the pampering Illya would've received would've come entirely from the maids, who were all born and raised to love her unconditionally. However, if Acht did what you think he did, then you can only imagine him wanting to give the girl the doll personally, just to add an extra layer of insult onto things.

"A doll or plush toy...?" Illya seems to think for a moment as she attempts to recall something from her memory, though she is clearly struggling to remember, so if it did happen, it wasn't really of that much relevance to her, and Acht likely did it in a way that diminished the importance of the item he was giving her. "I... think so? But I can only really remember one time where he did, the other times it was always the maids going out and getting things for me, but most of the time they would make plush toys by hand, I think some of them enjoy doing that." Illya smiles briefly as she recalls the thoughts of the maids, but is clearly unnerved by your expression not budging an inch and remaining stone cold. "Why?"

"Because..." You take a deep breath. This is going to hurt. "Because, I found out what happened to Kiritsugu." You keep your voice solemn, as if to keep the mood calm, you don't exactly have good news to share with the two of them right now, you really wish you could've just had Kiritsugu's soul transplanted back to his body, but you're going to need to infiltrate the Einzbern Castle in Fuyuki for that to be a possibility.

"Y-you did?!" Shirou raises his voice in surprise, before realizing he interrupted you and shutting up rather quickly. Shirou is usually very polite, so you can only assume that with Kiritsugu involved he forgot his manners a little bit.

"I did. I can only assume that his last attempt to rescue you ended in absolute failure, Illyasviel." You maintain your tone, and Illyas eyes widen as she starts to understand that you don't have good news to share with her, even now she probably understands that what she's about to be told is going to hurt her a great deal, but you press on.

"W-what do you mean...? Is he dead?" Shirou once again interrupts you, clearly wanting you to get to the point already, this is the closure he was looking for about his father, it seems, and... well it's not exactly good news, but it's not the worst news possible considering that there is still a possibility to restore Kiritsugu to life.
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"In a sense." You take another deep breath. "Kiritsugu Emiya was captured by the Einzbern, he was tortured, and his organs were harvested, likely to create a new generation of improved combat homunculi. This Illyasviel, was all kept a secret from you, and I'd wager that the one time Acht gave you a new doll was to... well it was to mock Kiritsugu even further, to put him so close to you while you were taught to hate him and believe he had abandoned you." You find yourself clenching your fist in rage, your neutral tone wavering a little bit, the level of evil required for something like this is unreal, you knew that Acht had no real sense of morality, but this goes beyond that level and into a level of irredeemable evil.

Both Shirou and Illya just stare at you in shocked silence. Shirou trying to determine if you're telling the truth, while Illyasviel is trying to determine whether you're telling her a lie. "You... you're telling the truth, aren't you?" After staring at you for a moment with those large red eyes of hers, Illya finally determines that you're telling her the truth, and despite how much she'd like for your words to be a lie, she ought to understand you would have nothing to gain from lying about something like this.

"I'm sorry." You apologize to the two of them for being the bearer of terrible news, but then it's not like you don't have some good news to give them as well "But... It's not too late for Kiritsugu." You decide to give them back the hope that the actions of the Einzbern has stolen from them. You don't want to see their pale shocked expressions for any longer than this, and telling them what actually happened to Kiritsugu is something that has managed to even anger you, despite your attempts to keep calm, even if you don't care for Kiritsugu nearly as much as Shirou or Illya did, he was still somebody who didn't deserve this fate.

"What... what do you mean?" Shirou asks once more, and this time you're actually thankful for his interruption. It gives you a chance to tell them just what exactly you've got planned, after all, you can still restore Kiritsugu to life.

"Kiritsugu's body is still alive, we simply need to retrieve his soul, so we can resuscitate him." The two of them still have pained expressions, but the news that Kiritsugu is actually capable of being saved does bring the both of them a great deal of comfort, of course that much alone wouldn't be enough for either of them to simply forget that their father was tortured and put through hell for years. "Only problem is that to do that we need to get his soul from... well from the Einzbern Castle, which is still currently... occupied." It's going to be quite difficult to sneak in to get Kiritsugu, and it will probably be even more difficult to convince Tamamo that you're just on a fleeting visit and that you can't stay for long.
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The two of them give you determined looks, the pain in their faces vanishes and being replaced by expressions that show they are prepared to do whatever needs to be done to rescue their father. Though there's a great deal of hatred disguised behind that expression of determination... on both Illya's face, and surprisingly enough, on Shirou's face. It takes a great deal of work to get Shirou Emiya to actively hate somebody, but in general, torturing one of his close friends or a family member would definitely cause him to loathe your existence. You should've been expecting this, especially considering how bad Archer's reaction was.

>Ask the two of them what they want to do about the Einzbern now.
>Tell the two of them that after the war is resolved, that you'll deal with Acht together.
>Tell the two of them that you will deal with Acht as soon as possible. With Medea's abilities, it's not like you need to wait.
>Excuse yourself from the two siblings and let them talk in private.
>Offer to take the two of them to Kiritsugu's body.
>Write-in...
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>>4689391
>>Offer to take the two of them to Kiritsugu's body.
>>Ask the two of them what they want to do about the Einzbern now.
its their dad, its their call
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>>4689391
>Tell the two of them that after the war is resolved, that you'll deal with Acht together.
>Offer to take the two of them to Kiritsugu's body.

Save Kiritsugu first, save reality next, revenge later.
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>>4689391
>Offer to take the two of them to Kiritsugu's body.
>Ask the two of them what they want to do about the Einzbern now.
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I think it's too cruel to show them his body, right now we retrieve his soul and after that they can see his body and his recovery.
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>>4689401
I think they'd like to see he's still breathing. Besides, we're offering, not taking them by force. They can decline if they want.
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>>4689391
>Tell the two of them that after the war is resolved, that you'll deal with Acht together.
>Offer to take the two of them to Kiritsugu's body.
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>>4689391
>Hug both of then, they need it
>>Offer to take the two of them to Kiritsugu's body.
>>Ask the two of them what they want to do about the Einzbern now OR if they want to do it after the war.
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Also, the first thing we should do to him after resurrecting him should be to slap him in the face and call him a idiot.
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>>4689409
Agreed. And then immediately slap ourselves in the face and call Shinji an idiot for thinking he'd wait years to get his daughter back.
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Call in thirty.
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>>4689391
>Tell the two of them that after the war is resolved, that you'll deal with Acht together.
>Offer to take the two of them to Kiritsugu's body.
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>>4689391
Offer to take the two of them to Kiritsugu's body then what they want to do about the einzburn
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>>4689391

>Offer to take them to the dormant body, although warn them it won't be a pleasant sight
>Tell them we'll support them in whatever way they need
>Let them talk in private
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"I can show you Kiritsugu's body, if you want... but... it's not really a pretty sight, and I don't think you'll benefit much by looking at it." Honestly, taking them to see Kiritsugu right now is... well, not only is Archer still in the room, but there's nothing to be gained from letting the two of Kiritsugu's children look at his current body, but you still feel obligated to ask the two of them regardless.

"...No. I... I don't want to see his body if it's as bad as you say. I'll... I'll wait until we get his soul back before I do. I want to make my next meeting with my father a happy one." Illya denies your offer, and you look to Shirou, who nods apparently in agreement, though you half expected to be denied, you still had to make the offer.

"I feel the same. I don't want to see my father's body until he's back in it, Shinji. I'm... angry enough as it is, and I've waited years to see my father again, I can wait a few more days." You notice that Shirou is still tightly clenching his fists... yeah, perhaps it would be for the best that you don't continue to fuel hatred in the boy who wants to save everyone, it's probably not going to be good for anybody involved, especially not Acht, and speaking of Acht...
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"After the war... After the war, we're going to go and... deal with the Einzbern. I don't want to destroy them totally, as that would be pointless, all of the maids are innocent of sin, and the only one who is really at fault is Acht himself. While I haven't got as much personal investment in this as you two, obviously, I can't just stand by and let them continue doing this, especially not if Acht is planning on creating some sort of superior homunculus army." An army with access to the time altering magecraft of the Emiya family would very much be capable of fighting Servants quite easily, especially if they were created in great enough numbers that they massively outnumbered them, of course, this is mere speculation as to what Acht might be planning with Kiritsugu's genetic material, but you don't really see any other reason he might've had for keeping him alive like he has other than something like this. It's not really like Acht isn't fully complicit with the idea of cheating in the grail war anyway. "Illya... do you think that you could lead the Einzbern to prosperity if you were in charge of the family?" Illya would with any luck finally do away with their doomed wish of attaining the Third through the Grail War. It's not impossible for the Einzbern family to actually learn how to attain the Third Magic once more through other methods anyway! After all, Touko's form of puppetry is something close to the Third Magic, so surely it's possible to reach it through research! Alternatively, your ability to interface with the Root without any permanent drawbacks to yourself... it might make it possible to actually grant Illya the Third Magic directly! Of course, that idea is something you immediately disregard, it's not really like you can use your ability like that without an open pathway to the Root, and those tend to be quite difficult to find, especially ones that are actually directly linked to people. Roa and Shiki are exceptionally rare cases, and it's only due to pure coincidence that they just happened to be in the exact same city... in the exact same house.

"I... I think I would be able to do that... Though it's not really like I've been groomed to lead the family, I've got nothing to my name other than a meaningless title that signifies that I'm the 'head of the family', even though Acht still calls all the shots. I've only really been taught what I need to know in order to represent the Einzbern in this grail war."
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"You shouldn't worry about that too much, Illya, leading is surprisingly easy if you are surrounded by nothing but people who are fanatically loyal to you and would die to protect you." Really, you can't think of many things that would be easier than leading the Einzbern considering that the entirety of the house is composed of homunculi who would never even think of betraying their masters. Even the ones with more mental development would happily die if they thought they were being of benefit to their master. "Besides, it's not like you'd have to lead the Einzbern all by yourself, I'm sure you could always ask Saber for help if you run into problems."

"Alright... I..." Illya looks you in the eye. "I don't want you to kill Jubstacheit." Illya suddenly says something completely unexpected, and you pause for a moment as you look at her.

"You... what?" You can only question her in dumb disbelief for a moment, that she wouldn't wish for the death of the man who has wronged her in so many ways, but then when you see the slight smile on her face, you understand the reason for her request immediately, she doesn't want you to kill him for one reason and one reason only.

"I want to kill him... or I want Kiritsugu, or Shirou to kill him. I... appreciate your help and I will take you up on it when the time comes, but... this is a family issue, and I just can't accept Jubstacheit being slain by somebody he hasn't personally wronged." A great flame of hatred for her 'grandfather' now burns in Illya's eyes. A lifetime of deception and trickery on Acht's part is about to come back to bite him quite terribly. Illya's temper is really quite legendary, and he should know that first hand considering that he was one of the people who helped foster it to be so great.

"I understand, when we go to have you take control of the Einzbern, I'll leave Jubstacheit's fate to you, Shirou and Kiritsugu." Yeah, there's absolutely no way that Acht is going to survive after he's done so much wrong personally to this family. If Archer and Shirou are mad, and Illya is furious, then Kiritsugu himself must be absolutely livid. It would be one thing if Acht just killed him, but to basically just rub it in his face that he was teaching his own daughter to loathe him? You can't imagine anything that would make a man like Kiritsugu want to kill you more after all that he has sacrificed than deceiving Illya into hating him for abandoning her, even while he was at her side the entire time! You decide that now would probably be a good time to give the two some time to speak with each other, and you turn to leave the room, you shouldn't get distracted again, you've got a busy day "I've got to gather everyone up now, so I'll need everyone in the dining room in about half an hour."
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"Alright, we'll meet you there, Shinji." Shirou says, his voice strained still, he's clearly suffering from the idea of feeling hatred for a man who he's never even met before, but you really can't blame him. You leave the room without any more words exchanged, with any luck, the two siblings will be able to comfort each other about what has happened, it will be an excellent opportunity for Shirou's relationship with Illya to become a true loving relationship of brother and sister.

As you walk through the corridors, you find yourself wondering if there's anything else you need to take care of before you return to Fuyuki...

>Go and see one of your allies. (For what?)
>Just gather everyone up and depart for Fuyuki.
>Go and speak to Akiha one last time before leaving.
>See if you can't track down Kouma, and failing that, ask Medea if she can find him.
>Write-in...
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>>4689561
Still think we need to ask Betty what's wrong.
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>>4689561
>Go and see Betty and try to get her to understand that she doesn't mean any less to us now that Alitheia is here.

>>4689563
Agreed. As good a time as any
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>>4689561
>>Go and speak to Akiha one last time before leaving.
>>See if you can't track down Kouma, and failing that, ask Medea if she can find him.
>>Go see Betty
eh why not, not like we'll have an excuse to see Akiha again, plus Kouma is based, I want to fight him either one on one or with all our bros
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>>4689561
>>4689569
+1
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>>4689561
>Write-in...
>Ask medea if she can track down Ayaka
We might as well do this since we have the time.
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>>4689561
>>4689569
Support. May I also add in
>write in...
Hug Betty as tightly as you can and pat her head.
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>>4689569
>>4689561
Support
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>>4689561
>>4689569
+1
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>>4689561
>>4689573
+1
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>>4689561
>Go and see Betty and try to get her to understand that she doesn't mean any less to us now that Alitheia is here.
>Go and speak to Akiha one last time before leaving.
>See if you can't track down Kouma, and failing that, ask Medea if she can find him.
Finish the loose end that is Tsukihime with Akiha, then meet Kouma and arrange that fight whether all the bros against him or a 1v1.
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>>4689580
>Hug Betty as tightly as you can and pat her head.
I think we should stop writing in for Shinji to "hug as tightly as you can" since he's a super-swole chad martial artist this timeline. It's easy to forget that since WhatIs never describes that. Speaking of WhatIs, he really does have a thing for main characters in suits and fancy clothing, doesn't he? Wouldn't be surprised if he sticks with that as a QM writing trait
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>>4689619
The fancy suit /qst/ zeitgeist has been around a lot longer than What has.
Hell, you could argue that it predates /qst/ itself, a disproportionate amount of quest protagonists are dapper dressers.
And yeah, being buff loses its meaning when you start dealing with beings that are orders of magnitude stronger that the strongest human by default, but the extra endurance helps when you need to go through several life-threatening events per day.
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>>4689561
>>Go and see Betty and try to get her to understand that she doesn't mean any less to us now that Alitheia is here.
>>Go and speak to Akiha one last time before leaving.
>>See if you can't track down Kouma, and failing that, ask Medea if she can find him.
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>>4689619
It's funny, because in an earlier update, Satsuki hugged you and almost squeezed the life out of you by accident.
>>4689627
I'm surprised you haven't asked one of the Casters for some reinforced clothing. You go through a lot of suits.
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>>4689664
It's a sign of affluence to lose a high quality suit in a fight every day of the week.
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Oh and uh... Vote called.
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>>4689619
>since he's a super-swole chad martial artist this timeline
i always assumed that he was more fit than swole, yk, like a light weight boxer sorta build
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>>4689717
Yeah, it's more the build of a lightweight boxer, and while he could bulk up to a middleweight build if he wanted, there's not really much point.
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>>4689726
That's pretty much what I envisioned, it would be a bit incongruous if Shinji was a Fist of the North Star character among Nasu's svelte tube people.
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>>4689755
You'll have to wait until you're a little taller to be able to pull off the Juza look.
You're still only just about 18 right now.
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>>4689761
I pray we can be as fucking cool as Juza was.
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"Betty." You call out to the girl following you down the corridors. Both Medea and Betty remained silent despite physically accompanying you to Illya's room, the two of them probably just knew that their input was unneeded and might've made the situation worse if they tried to add their own thoughts on the matter, not that Betty even seems to really care that much about a man she's never met before. Medea certainly wouldn't have helped though, especially not if she went into any sort of detail on whatever magical procedures that Kiritsugu's body has been put through.

"Yes, Master?" Betty is quick to respond to you calling her name, and you're glad that she's seemingly not tired yet, she hasn't fallen asleep for a while, so she is probably due to fall asleep at any moment, honestly. It's a habit of hers that you've learned to live with.

"I want you to understand that I don't want you to feel jealous about Alítheia." Still, you need to share some important words with the girl, and she did seem just a little bit put out by the rather sudden creation and existence of your daughter. "You don't mean any less to me now that Alítheia is here, Betty." While you aren't really certain just what it is that Betty wants, it might just be the case that she doesn't want anything. Seeing as the entirety of her power comes from the being lending her a small portion of its own strength, then that might just mean that Foreigner Servants are summoned by the wishes of that being and not the being they are lending their power to. BB didn't seem very capable of defying the wishes of Nyarlathotep at all... Urgh, dealing with her is going to be one hell of a headache in almost every possible way. Hopefully she plays nice seeing as Nyarlathotep seems to have her on something of a tight leash. AI she might be, but she probably went a little too far in trying to steal the power of a cosmic being beyond mortal comprehension for the sake of effectively, a prank. You can't really say you feel at all bad for BB for getting effectively used as a cosmic errand girl, but the fact that she shares Sakura's face does bring you just the slightest amount of guilt at allowing her to be treated like that. You snap out of that thought pretty rapidly. Sakura's face or not, BB is most certainly not Sakura at all, she's nothing but a simulacrum of Sakura constructed in turn by a simulacrum of Sakura.
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"OK, Master... but... you seemed so happy when you were around her..." Well, you can't really argue against that point, you were very happy to actually find yourself with a daughter, even though the circumstances were bizarre, it still activated some sort of paternal instinct within your body that enabled you to recognize that Alítheia was truly your daughter, and somebody who needed to be protected. "You don't... You don't ever seem that happy around me..." Oh, so... she actually is jealous about Alítheia being your daughter then?

>"I could always adopt you, if you'd like."
>"What are you saying Betty? I'm always happier when you're around!"
>Hug Betty. "You'll always be my Servant, Betty, no matter what else happens."
>"Well, how would you like me to fix things?"
>Write-in...
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>>4689844
>"What are you saying Betty? I'm always happier when you're around!"
>Hug Betty. "You'll always be my Servant, Betty, no matter what else happens."
>"I could always adopt you, if you'd like."
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>>4689844
"Well, how would you like me to fix things?"
>"I could always adopt you, if you'd like."
You were always a natural daughter to me anyways.
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>>4689844
>>4689859
+1
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>>4689859
+1
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>>4689844
>>4689859
Support.
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>>4689844
Supporting >>4689859
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>>4689844
>>4689859
support
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>>4689859
yeah, supporting this
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So who is the worst girl?
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>>4690192
Altrouge, she hurt Sacchin so she must die.
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>>4690192
Right Manaka
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>>4690192
All girls have their merits.
>>4689844
>I could always adopt you.
Fuck it.
The gates of fatherhood are open.
Surprised there's so few votes about something like this though, is everyone in agreement that we should get our second daughter?
Lolifags btfo for now and forever, next step is getting Illya an adult body.
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>>4690192
Medea
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>>4690287
Consider killing yourself immediately.
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>>4689844
>"What are you saying Betty? I'm always happier when you're around!"
>Hug Betty. "I'm sorry if I don't always show it as much as I should"
>"I could always adopt you, if you'd like."

>>4690285
>is everyone in agreement that we should get our second daughter?
I assume so, yes.
>spoiler
I disagree only because I want to make picrel a reality.
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>>4689844

this >>4689859
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>>4690303
You make a convincing argument.
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I can't wait to start conquering England.
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You know I do wonder if we're ever going to have more interaction with the world of FGO.
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>>4690315
See that Singularity? You can solve it.
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>>4690314
Starting the Welsh uprising first since she is the king of the Britons and go from there? Dawn fo the Age of the New Gods.
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>>4690318
We aren't a singularity we're a special snowfalke timeline.
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>>4690320
Are we sure we want to start that?
Maybe we can get a permit from Alaya.
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>>4690341
Oh! What if we started a new age of gods where Alaya is the supreme deity?
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Good morning thread, calling in 38 minutes.
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>>4690369
Cute nun
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>>4690315
Intervening in EXTRA/FGO to poach some more Servants.
>>4690314
>>4690320
Now this is the way to do it the fun way.
>>4690344
Alaya Invictus.
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>>4690369
Nice breasts
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>>4690374
>>4690523
We never went for secret route where Shinji meets Ciel and she grooms him.
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"What are you saying Betty? I'm always happier when you're around." You decide to tell the girl something nice to cheer her up a little, and you do mean what you say, you feel like you've got a connection with Betty, after all, she did appear to you on a summon without a catalyst, meaning the by default the two of you should be compatible with each other. You proceed to hug the girl, taking her by surprise. "You'll always be my Servant, Betty, no matter what else happens." You break off from the hug and put a hand to your chin in thought. "Well... I suppose if you're feeling jealous about Alítheia, then there's only one real solution I can think of..."

"What do you mean, Master?" Betty asks you in an innocent voice, she doesn't know what you're about to say, that much is clear. While she might be oddly sharp sometimes, for the majority of her time, she's just as mentally sharp as her body would give the illusion of.

"Well, I could always adopt you if you'd like." You make your offer without any hesitation or regret. You're already a father now, so what's one more adopted daughter? If it will make Betty happier, then that's well worth it, you feel, it's not like anybody is going to really be able to object to something like this either, and a quick look at Medea confirms that. She might have something of a bemused expression, but she isn't making any effort to stop you from offering to adopt Betty. Well, it's mostly just a formality, it's not really like Betty has anywhere else to go, and is kind of dependent on you to exist, so in a way, you're already her guardian, just as much as you are her Master.

"You... You could?" Betty doesn't sound like she believes your request as you first make it, as she repeats your words in disbelief. "I... don't really remember much about my own parents... I don't even know why I'm a Servant, actually." Betty changes the subject to something you weren't expecting, and you can't help but try to find out just what she's talking about.

"What exactly are you talking about, Betty?" You in truth don't really know much about Betty's past, considering that she apparently couldn't remember it herself very well, and you didn't really want to pry into it at the time at risk of upsetting her.

"Well... when I was summoned, I was given information by something that told me that Servants are supposed to be created from people in the past after they died, but... I don't remember dying at all." So... could Betty be a Living Servant like Saber then? No, that wouldn't make sense, Saber is incapable of taking Spiritual Form and Betty has no such problems with that.
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"It's not really impossible for some Heroic Spirits to be incapable of remembering how their lives ended." Medea suddenly butts into the conversation. "It could be a result of a Noble Phantasm or sometimes the memories are so gruesome that they would cause a detriment to the performance of the Servant. Perhaps your original death was simply too much for your mind to handle?" Medea puts forth a decent theory but somehow you doubt that she's correct on this one, there's almost certainly something more going on with this situation with Betty, and you doubt she is incapable of remembering things just due to some troublesome memory.

"Well, while this is somewhat worrying, I imagine that there's a decent explanation to be found somewhere." And somehow, you feel like the only person you're going to be able to get it from is Nyarlathotep. If anybody should know why Betty is incapable of remembering her life, it will be him. Looks like you might need to be having a few words with Alan when you return to Fuyuki. Well, a few more words, at least. You aren't sure just how much of Nyarlathotep's knowledge that one of his human bodies possesses. "But, you didn't answer my original question, Betty. Would you like me to adopt you or not?" You can worry about Betty's mysterious past at some later time, for now it's not really got much bearing on the current events.

"Y-yes." Betty answers you this time, and her voice is quiet. "I do... want that." Just like that, you've managed to find yourself as a father of two in the span of a single day. Medea doesn't comment on the situation any further as Betty jumps up and hugs you, and you awkwardly hug her back, you have to almost untangle yourself from her arms in order to reciprocate the hug.

"Well, I hate to interrupt such a touching scene, but we are in kind of a hurry here, Master." Medea is telling the truth at least, she clearly doesn't enjoy having to break up such a touching scene, but you really are in something of a hurry. A week until the end of reality and all that. You set Betty down and pat her on the head when you do.

>"You're right Medea, anything else I can do in Misaki Town can wait till after we've saved reality." (Gather everyone and go home.)
>"That might be the case, but I still need to- (What?)"
>Write-in...
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>>4690586
>>"You're right Medea, anything else I can do in Misaki Town can wait till after we've saved reality." (Gather everyone and go home.)
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Should we do Zouken plotline now or after we are done with Kerry?
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>>4690604
actually its not like we have to do anything about them now, we can just ask Medea to scry for Kirei and Zouken and decide what to do with them from there
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>>4690586
>"You're right Medea, anything else I can do in Misaki Town can wait till after we've saved reality." (Gather everyone and go home.)
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>>4690586
>"You're right Medea, anything else I can do in Misaki Town can wait till after we've saved reality." (Gather everyone and go home.)
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>>4690607
I mean Zouken is certainly going to be a problem but a very minor one in comparison to grand scheme of things.
We could just strike him right now with our teleportation and be done with whole Matou-Makiri business.
Day is still young and we are not in direct rush to meet Tamamo although it is in high priority. A small detour right now hardly that significant and to be honest helping killing Zouken is probably the most personal thing most of the cast can do for Shinji. Touko already showed some regret not just killing old worm and given how we just dealt with Emiya family business not doing something about our own or not having people be as asserting in helping us with personal issues as we are to them is somewhat of a sad note.
But it is probably better to speak with Sakura first about it. Maybe she really wants to kill him herself so we just wait until heli with her arrives in Fuyuki.
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>>4690586
>"You're right Medea, anything else I can do in Misaki Town can wait till after we've saved reality." (Gather everyone and go home.)
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>>4690586
>>"You're right Medea, anything else I can do in Misaki Town can wait till after we've saved reality." (Gather everyone and go home.)
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>>4690586
Hmm... should we get Miyako involved?
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>>4690586
>"You're right Medea, anything else I can do in Misaki Town can wait till after we've saved reality." (Gather everyone and go home.)
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It is just that fate of Kiritsugu turned out to be quite similar to one of Sakura and Zouken easily one of the few people in-character Shinji had really strong negative feelings about. I would imagine it would have ignited at least some of those old feelings after witnessing all of this and strong desire to put an end to it.
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>>4690586
>Betty is our daughter now
Perfect. Now she can truly be happy :)

Anyways
>"You're right Medea, anything else I can do in Misaki Town can wait till after we've saved reality." (Gather everyone and go home.)
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>>4690644
We can just teleport to wherever she is whenever we want so she's not really a priority.
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Non related incest route?
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Calling in twenty.
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>>4690665
Of course.
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>>4690675
I see you are a man of taste as well.
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>>4690586
>"You're right Medea, anything else I can do in Misaki Town can wait till after we've saved reality." (Gather everyone and go home.)
Might as well.
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I'm still writing the update, but did you know that the Einzbern Castle, similarly to Rin's house, actually exists?
It's even open for tours and you can stay overnight in a guest room.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Brissac
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>>4690746
Yes
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>>4690746
I did not know that, no. Also
>similarly to Rin's house, actually exists?
what?
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>>4690746
Huh.

I thought it would be bigger, actually
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>>4690755
That's just because that picture is kind of taken from an angle that makes it look smaller than it actually is. Place is actually fairly huge.
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>>4690754
Weathercock House in Kobe.
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>>4690759
Heh cock
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>>4690759
Huh, looks like someone drew it over a real background. My brain's having trouble accepting it as real.
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>>4690665
The very first route that was opened to us
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"You're right, Medea. Anything else I might need to do in this town can really wait until after we've... well, saved reality." honestly, when it comes to priorities, the grail war right now is quite literally the most important thing in the entire universe, hell, depending on the scale Nyarlathotep was talking about when he mentioned the end of reality itself, it might be the end of not just this universe, but of this entire multiverse. A chilling thought, and really not one that you want to allow to come to pass. You've fought hard to protect this world that you care about, even if you might be a foreign entity to it, you aren't going to let it be destroyed by the actions of some rogue element like Manaka, and you're especially not going to allow her to use you as her means to doing so. You don't know just what the girl might have planned for reality if she were to succeed and achieve omnipotence, but it surely couldn't be good. In fact, if things get dire enough, Nyarlathotep might be forced to intervene directly in order to end the entire planet! Neither the end of Earth nor the end of reality are outcomes that are any more favourable to you in particular than the other.

"Understood, Master. Shall we get everyone together then?" You nod your head at Medea's question. It's not like anybody is going to really be that difficult to find, even if they aren't in the dining room, they are almost certainly going to be in either a lounge or their own rooms.

You spend the next twenty minutes gathering up all your allies into the dining room once more, your exchanges with your allies usually brief as you tell them they need to get to the Dining Room, of course, you also make sure to have a helicopter ready for Saber to pilot back to Fuyuki with the rest of your allies. You certainly aren't about to have them take public transport for a journey this critical. Speed is key here, and you just don't have the time to have them go on a trip like that.
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Before long, everyone is gathered up in the Dining Room once more, and while Alítheia does receive some curious stares from some of your allies, you decide to let Sakura explain to them on the trip back... Even if Sakura's own knowledge of the situation is very limited, it's not really like you know much more about the girl. The only thing that Sakura might be missing in her retelling about Alítheia would be a sense of... scale. As far as you can tell, Alítheia when she's fully grown and is well, actually capable of growing, will be a true sight to behold. She would be a being easily on the level of an ancient or primordial god if what you saw in your battle against her was her in an infantile state. If she is destined to become more powerful than she already is, then even Beasts would fall against her, in fact, she may even end up becoming something like the Ultimate One of Earth! A terrifying thought, or it would be if you didn't have faith in your daughter and her love, if she did become the Ultimate One of Earth somehow, then she would be a force for good! Or... well, at least that's how you'd try to direct her.

"Everyone understands the situation then? Those of you going with Sakura will take the helicopter back to Fuyuki and will meet the rest of us at my house." Everyone was surprised by Archer showing up, but Rin's explanation about Archer was a short one, and nobody really questioned her when she brought up the Second True Magic being used to rescue her. Though Sakura did voice her disappointment about Rider not being saved, and Ibaraki was similarly upset about Shuten too. But still, a victory is a victory, and just having Archer back is going to be of benefit to everyone. Of course, the memory transfer between Shirou and Archer is going to happen, but not until both of them are back in Fuyuki, it would be a waste of time if you were to remain in Misaki to wait for the ritual to be prepared again, and you don't know just how a transfer of memories between the two of them would go anyway. You're hoping that it would allow Shirou to unlock Unlimited Blade Works in addition to a few more weapons, at least.
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Your allies all respond in the affirmative, while your explanations were kept brief, they all understood the need for such swiftness, after all, with reality at stake, even seconds wasted might end up being precious resources being expended. A week... Well a week isn't a very long time at all to save everything, and the very fact that Alaya has yet to intervene with Counter Guardians is both encouraging... and worrying. Does Alaya trust you, or does she think that she is incapable of solving this issue with her own means? Well, maybe that's why Merlin has been summoned, though you do wonder why only a single Grand Servant would be summoned, shouldn't a threat like Manaka require a full set of the world's Grand Servants in order to defeat, especially if she's as powerful as Nyarlathotep is claiming. Somebody capable of freely manipulating the flow of time to freeze it is supposedly not powerful enough to deal with Manaka directly. That's a truly terrifying thought. Just... Just how powerful has the girl managed to become off of stealing Eldritch Power? And... how is she even doing something like that in the first place? It's not really like Outer Gods tend to just leave backdoors that would allow any random mortal access to their powers against their wishes, right?

"Alright, then lets get going, everyone." You're finally going to be returning to Fuyuki, and though it feels like it's been a long time since you last saw the city, in truth it was a few days, and seeing as most of the war was in Misaki Town, it's really not like it could've possibly continued in your absence. Not unless Manaka decided to try to make a move on Gilgamesh with her altered Servants, and that is something that is bound for failure. Gilgamesh alone is more than enough to take out the entire fourth war the moment he gets more than a little serious about things, and as you saw him a few days ago, he's definitely serious right now. You don't know if he knows the true consequences that failure would bring, but he's clearly not taking the girl under the grail lightly. "Medea, if you would." You make sure that everyone who is going with your party is holding hands, and then...

"Tροψα!" The woman calls out, and the world around you changes in a flash of light. You quickly find yourself standing in front of your house.

"Finally." You say cheerfully. It's good to be back on your own turf. You've missed your house a great deal, in truth. While the Tohno mansion had acceptable faculties available should they have been needed, you can't help but feel like your own home is superior, after all, home is where the heart is... or something.

"About time too, I was getting sick of that city." Illya makes her opinion on Misaki Town quite clear. Well, it's to be expected, the town is neither as large or as prosperous as Fuyuki is when it comes to its economy, so it's simply less impressive than Fuyuki is, especially to somebody like Illya.
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"Well, now that we're back, I believe we've got quite a few things we need to get on with before we go ahead with the raid on the temple, first off, I'd like for us to-"

>Go after Zouken, just to make sure he's not going to be a problem in the future.
>Go after Kirei, the sooner the priest dies, the better.
>Scry for a few people, you need more information (Scry for who?)
>Call Miyako, see if she's back in Fuyuki yet.
>Ask the two Casters whether they can create some magical items (What?)
>Ask Morgan if she would be willing to use her Hero Creation on somebody. (Who and for what?)
>Write-in...
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>>4690784
>>Go after Zouken, just to make sure he's not going to be a problem in the future.
>>Go after Kirei, the sooner the priest dies, the better.
>Call Miyako, see if she's back in Fuyuki yet.
>Call Ciel
we should be careful with Kirei, he still has Gilgamesh by his side and he may or may not have another servant know how much of a shitter he is. Also idk if we have Ciel's number or not, if not, just scry for her
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Uhh, where is everyone?
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>>4690799
Lots of options, gotta think. It's like when the map expands in an open world game and you don't know what to do first.
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>>4690782
>>4690788
Supporting
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>>4690784
>Scry for a few people, you need more information (Scry for who?)
Ayaka, Miyu, Kiara, Olga and Zouken
>Ask the two Casters whether they can create some magical items (What?)
Something to resist the curse tamamo placed in the eizbern castle.
>Call Miyako, see if she's back in Fuyuki yet.

I am on the fence on attacking Zouken without sakura.Sakura needs her revenge on the worm.
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>>4690784
>Scry for a few people, you need more information (Ciel, Kotomine, Tamamo, Zouken, not necessarily in that order)
>Sit down Rin with both our Casters and Touko, get her to explain how she got Archer out, why she couldn't get the rest, and how we can fix her ritual so we can grab everyone asap.

I don't think we should go after Zouken without Sakura.
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>>4690788
>>4690784
Support
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>>4690784
>>4690788
Support I want to meet dante.
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>>4690788
supporting.
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>>4690799
I'm not voting till it's harem time or battle. I'm not one for these middling parts.
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Well, guess I'll call in 30 minutes.
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>>4690784
I really, really think we should wait for Sakura to go after Zouken but it seems there's a consensus forming, so I'm changing my vote from >>4690812 to
>Go after Kirei, the sooner the priest dies, the better.
>Call Miyako, see if she's back in Fuyuki yet.
>Call Ciel
ie, everything that's currently winning except for Zouken.
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>>4690788
Support. However I do believe that Zouken should wait until Sakura is back.
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>>4690825
>>4690844
lmao no fucking way, for 1, we should give Sakura no chance to potentially become Dark Sakura, 2, she shouldn't see what we're gonna do to Zouken, don't want our imouto to see how we really act
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>>4690847
What the actual fuck, why do you think it's better that she doesn't get closure with her tormentor?
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>>4690847
Shame she goes all insane and stuff, the aesthetics are great.
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>>4690853
her closure is that she doesn't get worm'd every night, she reunites with Rin and that Zouken is no longer an issue for us or her. If she still has issues, she can go to therapy, she's not a violent person unless she goes completely mental
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>>4690858
Pretty sure she can tap into Dark Sakura powers, she canonically has a mystic code for it and she's sorta doing it now
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>>4690860
No, her closure is dealing with the source of her problems HERSELF, and seeing with HER OWN EYES that she has nothing to be afraid of anymore.

>just go to therapy, lol
You're just trolling, aren't you?
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>>4690864
again, she's not a violent person, the only time she ever gets violent is when she chimps out and goes Dark Sakura, she doesn't need to see us murder a person either. Its not like she has a problem with closure over Zouken either, she seems pretty happy as long as she's with us
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>>4690876
>she seems pretty happy as long as she's with us
And yet you just said we should send her to therapy instead of working with her to solve her issues. It's almost as if you want to push her away.
Besides, I'm not saying she should murder Zouken herself, but she should definitely be consulted instead of us going behind her back on something so important.
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You know, this vote was more for what you wanted to do first, you... can't do all that at the exact same time. Especially not go after Kirei and Zouken at the same time. Would you mind if I just wrote this as scrying three of them and calling Miyako?
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>>4690788
>He still has Gilgamesh
Get Ayaka.
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>>4690893
yeah
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>>4690893
I would definitely support this.
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>>4690893
seems fine
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>>4690885
>And yet you just said we should send her to therapy instead of working with her to solve her issues
you know you don't get sent to another place if you go to therapy right?
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>>4690893
Yes, by the way is Waver waiting for us in the house?
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>>4690903
Waver is intelligent enough and careful enough to call ahead if he's going to be heading into the house of a powerful magus.
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Y'all are all literally sleeping on one of the best possible last minute recruits in the entire story. Gilgamesh was literally willing to go straight towards hell and Fight Manaka + Beast + Alter Servants because Ayaka took of her glasses ONE time in the entire story. And that's not even including her being able to pull Saber Proto without fail. We have a week to stop Manaka and we really aren't considering Aya?
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>>4690902
Wait, isn't therapy that thing where you go to a stranger's office and talk about your problems while he pretends to care? Isn't this "another place"?

>>4690915
>the house of a powerful magus.
Feels good man
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>>4690933
I've been pushing ayaka for a few updates now as well. Maybe we should look into her before we go after kirei since gilgamesh is most likely with him.
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>>4690933
Yeah
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>>4690893
Fine by me.
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>>4690940
Can you explain why though, Gilgamesh would not help us unless we bring him an otome waifu. Unless you despise Gilgamesh so much that you want to kill him off with Kirei, there's is really no reason to waste someone who can use EA and would willingly use it to impress his new waifu.
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>>4690933
alright make a write in vote next time to scry for her, fair chance she's in the war so who knows
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>>4690933
Yeah, I agree with >>4690946. Make a write in vote. Be the change you want to see.
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>>4690946
>>4690811
Someone did make it but it was slept on.
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>>4690949
I disagreed with the rest of it, personally. Would have supported if it was just about Ayaka.
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>>4690784
>>4690811
Oh and supporting this, let's not kill of Gilgamesh and get the otome girl to join us.
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>>4690811
Support, Ayaka can join us at the drop of a hat. Are you willing to make that investment anons?
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>>4690965
No
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Is voting closed?
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>>4690972
>>4690824
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>>4690974
fuck
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>>4690784
>Go after Zouken, just to make sure he's not going to be a problem in the future.
>Go after Kirei, the sooner the priest dies, the better.

Make sure these fuckers can't profit off the aftermath.

>Ask Morgan if she would be willing to use her Hero Creation on somebody. (Who and for what?): SHIKI, Shiro, Shiki

There squishy or have low damage due to Mana cost.
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"Medea, lets go inside first. There's a few people I need you to scry on for me." You tell the woman as you begin to head inside your house. It's exactly as you left it, thankfully. Seems like nobody decided to set up shop in your home while you were away. The bounded fields you left around your house thankfully managing to ward off intruders. It would be a real annoyance if somebody were to boobytrap your own house while you were away, but you learned from one of the best, so your bounded fields are incredibly powerful. They wouldn't stop a truly determined Servant, sure, but just about anything else would seriously need to consider whether it would be worth it, and even an Enforcer would probably fall victim to the effects of one of the bounded fields you set-up. Well, not to mention that none of your alarms have been tripped either.

"OK, Master." Medea begins to follow you inside, and the rest of your allies soon follow suit. Betty is still clinging to your side, and you find it quite strange to now think of the girl as your daughter, but you did tell her you would adopt her, so you begin to make a conscious effort to think of her that way. It doesn't come quite as naturally to you as accepting Alítheia thanks to Alítheia's special bond with you, being the only other being you've met with powers the same as your own, not to mention that you share blood with her, and can easily be called her true father. Where Medea provided her soul through the soul contained within the Golden Fleece which was seemingly made into something truly new, you provided her with her body, and also her tremendous power. It's a good reminder for you to be more careful with Truth in the future, while you sometimes take your power for granted, in certain situations, it is the sort of ability that can completely turn the world on its head. Especially when you aren't being constrained by the rules of Gaia and are free to act with it.

You soon enter one of your many living rooms with everyone else trailing behind. Rin is flanked by Archer, who is choosing not to remain in spiritual form. He's carrying a large box in his arms carefully, and you immediately understand why he's choosing to remain physical. You hadn't really paid much attention to the man before, but you immediately realize that he must've traced a container to keep Kiritsugu in without letting Illya see him. What a caring big... little brother he is.
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Speaking of Illya, she's got her maids following her still, though Giselle is theoretically your maid, she does seem to naturally follow Illya around. Probably a result of the natural adoration and love common in all of the maids that they have for the girl. You aren't sure if it's something hardcoded into them, or if it's simply Illya's natural ability to charm... It's... probably a little bit of both. Even if loyalty is coded into the maids, Illya clearly cares a great deal for the maids, and in turn they return her care with their own. Avenger meanwhile is hidden in spiritual form, not like he really needs to be, but intercepting any enemy attacks tends to be easier if they can't determine your current location.

A quick glance at Miho and Ibaraki shows that the two of them seem to be slightly annoyed by something, Miho clearly doesn't like your house, giving the way she keeps looking at random features with annoyance. Is it dislike born of jealousy or something? You don't really know Miho's exact financial conditions, but given the fact that she's decided to fight the grail war while still dressed as a shaman girl, she probably isn't the sort of girl who is rolling in money. In fact, you don't even know if she has any more clothing than just that outfit. You'll... probably have to offer to lend her some money or something if that's the case. Right now, the half-oni girl is really only aiding you out of a matter of convenience and for... well, the sake of her continued existence.

Aoko and Shiki just don't really have any sort of reaction to your home, both of them seem to be all business for now, not that you can blame them. Besides, it's not like Aoko hasn't seen more impressive homes in her time, and Shiki is used to the Tohno mansion, so it's not like your own mansion is going to impress him all that much. He seems happier in general though, even with the fate of the universe at stake, his own Mystic Eyes being something he can consciously and easily keep control of means a huge amount to him, not to mention that his weak body has been cured entirely, and replaced by the very opposite thanks to his adoptive brother's decision to reverse the flow of energy between the two of them. SHIKI is actually probably one of the best healers on the planet thanks to his ability to link his life-force with other people. Of course, his own abilities aren't quite as effective as Truth Healing, but that's not really healing at all, in that Truth Healing just removes the wound from existence entirely. SHIKI for his part is remaining silent for Shiki's sake, he is clearly still trying to uphold Akiha's request to him.
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Then, finally, there is Morgan, who is remaining silent as she observes your home, and Mordred, who isn't wearing her armor right now. You have absolutely no idea where her armor and weapons go when they aren't in use now that she's a living person again, but you suppose that any answer you can reasonably expect from her about that sort of thing would equate to 'I don't know, it's magic.' For as bright and inspired that King Mordred sometimes shows herself to be, it's probably not wise to expect her to suddenly start acting like she's a genius who can explain the specifics of her own abilities to somebody. As a king, she's going to probably rely almost entirely on gut-feelings and her instincts, which is probably why it's for the best that she's got somebody to vet some of her ideas. Even if she has shown her instincts to be very good indeed when it comes to decisions, it's obviously not always going to work out that way. "This is a pretty big place, Advisor. I never really got the full view of it while observing you from afar."

"Oh well, I might have to give everyone the full tour a little later, though it's really nothing too impressive, Illya's castle in the forests is bigger." Mostly because it would be impossible to build a residential property as large as Illya's castle in this part of the city, and you don't really need that much attention, nor do you want to have to bribe god knows how many city officials just to have bragging rights of the largest castle. You own plenty of properties anyway, and it's not like you need bragging rights of living in the largest house in the city. Especially given that Illya's castle isn't in the city at all.

"I would like that, Advisor." Mordred smiles at you, and you don't really know how to respond, in truth you weren't really expecting her to actually take you up on that offer, and you gave it in half-jest. Though you wouldn't really hate to give Mordred a quick tour of your home. She is going to be living in it, after all, at least until the war is over and she... begins her conquest of the United Kingdom. Good grief, Alaya isn't going to be happy about your part in that, when it eventually happens. With any luck you'll be able to convince her that it's for the best or something. Then there's the problem of revealing Mystery to the world, which, you realize, is probably possible to completely counteract by causing a surge of mystery to counterbalance it's own revelation! But, such a thing would almost certainly lead to magical creatures returning to the world. Science wouldn't be slowly overwhelming magic anymore, and it would be in direct competition for superiority with mystery instead of slowly but surely usurping it. It would be... strange, there's no denying that.
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A brisk walk through your home soon finds you in a living room with multiple couches in it, and you invite the rest of your allies to take a seat for a while as you and Medea find out a few things. "Now, Master, who exactly would you like me to scry for first? It would be... simpler if you were to place a hand on this crystal ball and envisioned them in your mind." She instructs you on just how to go about finding somebody with her incredibly useful magic, and you do so.

"First up, my ancestor, Zouken." You need to find out just what the old bastard has been up to in all the time that he has been absent, he's definitely plotting something still, and it's really unlikely that he's just decided to curl up in a ball and die like he should.

"Just, stare into the ball, and you should be able to see him, so long as there are no unusual circumstances going on like last time." Sure enough, as you stare into the crystal ball, you can just about make out the figure of the old man as he hunches over a table, behind him is a huge dimly glowing summoning circle, and you really really do not like the look of it. What the hell is he trying to do with that thing? It looks strangely like some sort of modified Servant summoning circle. Of course, you keep watching for a few more minutes, but he doesn't even move an inch in all that time. It seems like he's either waiting for something, or is just... asleep. Regardless, you're just going to keep to scrying on him for now, whatever that summoning circle is, it's probably dangerous, and Zouken has shown himself capable of using Servants to serve as tools to summon other Servants loyal to him before, even if it was only Kojiro who wasn't a true Heroic Spirit, he's still shown himself more than capable of instantly killing a Servant without lifting a finger against them. He is one of the men behind the summoning system of Fuyuki, after all.
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You remove your hand from the Crystal Ball, and the image fades. "Now, I want to see Kirei Kotomine, overseer of this Grail War." You request, and the crystal obeys, the shining surface of the glass soon showing you a study in which Kirei Kotomine sits, reading through paperwork... not as interesting as you were hoping for, but it might've been a little silly to expect to be able to catch Kotomine out anyway. At least this proves that he's probably not planning anything big, his plan to incarnate Angra Mainyu as a God of Evil is kind of ruined now, and you imagine that Gilgamesh has told him of the current status of the grail. Well, you're still going to need to deal with him at some point in the future, it's just... well you aren't going to need to deal with him imminently. Rin would probably want to be the one to deal with him anyway, considering that he murdered Tokiomi in cold blood. You remove your hand once more before beginning to focus on another person. Namely, Ciel. You've been wondering just how she's been getting along, and you quickly see the girl sitting on the pier of Fuyuki Harbor, apparently doing nothing but enjoying the sunlight. It's good that she managed to get back to Fuyuki alright, but the fact that she very clearly has no spear on her yet tells you that she's probably waiting for a boat to arrive. Looks like her contact was successful in getting the spear if she's waiting for his arrival.

You remove your hand once more, and smile at Medea. "All done, Master?" The woman asks with curiosity. Of course, she was watching as well, so she saw the same scenes that you did. Regardless, you nod at the woman.

"That's right, now I just need to make a quick phonecall..." You pull your phone out of your pocket and walk away to a quieter corner of the room as you wait for the girl on the other end to pick up. Miyako isn't some technological illiterate like a magus would be, so she doesn't naturally abhor things like phones like Rin does. As you wait for Miyako to answer, you briefly consider whether or not it would be possible to create a mobile phone that magically returned to its owner so that Rin would finally stop being able to ditch her phone out of the fear that it will eat her soul or something.

Eventually, you can hear the phone stop dialing as the girl on the other end answers you. "Miyako! It's me, Shinji." You keep things brief as you greet the girl. "Are you back in Fuyuki yet? I'd like to invite you to my house. I imagine that you're already aware of where it is." Miyako... well she does give you something of a stalker vibe. She seems more than a little obsessed by your martial arts skills.
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"Oh...? I'm... still on a train right now, but I'll happily take you up on that offer!" The cheerful voice of Miyako comes through the phone. "I'm about... oh, three hours from getting back to Fuyuki still, so I'll call you when I'm back in town, OK?" You can hear the muffled protests of a certain Lancer from the other end of the phone, clearly, they don't trust you nearly as much as Miyako does, but that's fine. Lancer is just the Servant, so she's going to have to learn to deal with her Master's whims. In fact, as far as Servants go, Wukong has a great deal of compatibility with the role of a Servant, considering just what the Journey to the West is all about.

"That's fine. I'd love to chat with you on the phone for a while, but I'm... really really busy right now, so I'll catch up with you later, alright?" You decide to cut the call short. You just needed to make sure that Miyako was going to be showing up at your house later. Three hours... that should mean that she arrives at about the same time as the rest of your allies!

"Alright, I'll see you then, I guess!" Miyako happily responds, and you hang up the phone when you're certain that she's not going to start talking about anything else. You let out a small breath as you look at your phone before you return it to your pocket. Sometimes you wish that everyone you knew actually knew how to use the damn things. It might be a good idea to just straight up... buy everyone a mobile phone at some point, but right now, you really have more important matters to take care of.

>"Rin, do you want to know the truth about Kirei Kotomine?"
>"Medea, can you scry for some more people? I remembered somebody who might be helpful. (Who?)
>"I'm worried about Zouken and what he has planned, it might be time to strike at him immediately."
>"Morgan, can you use your Hero Creation (Copy) on somebody please?" (Again, specify person and skill)
>"I'd like for us to go and pay Tamamo a visit now. We need to recover Kiritsugu's soul."
>Write-in...
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>>4691055
>>"Rin, do you want to know the truth about Kirei Kotomine?"
She actually deserves a chance to kill him
>>"Medea, can you scry for some more people? I remembered somebody who might be helpful. (Who?)
Ayaka and Olga
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>>4691055
>>"I'd like for us to go and pay Tamamo a visit now. We need to recover Kiritsugu's soul."
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>>4691059
>>4691055
+1
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>>4691055
>>"Medea, can you scry for some more people? I remembered somebody who might be helpful. (Who?)
Ayaka and Olga
>"I'd like for us to go and pay Tamamo a visit now. We need to recover Kiritsugu's soul."
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>>4691055
>>4691059
+1
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Wait since we're gonna meet Enhance soon does Devil May Cry exist in this universe? If it doesn't, does Shinji remember about the existence of Devil May Cry?
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>>4691092
Enhance isn't literally Dante from DMC, he's a half-vampire type of guy.
I don't know if he has anything in common with Dante personality-wise, but he seems to be generally mad about DAs existing.
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>>4691055
>>4691059
+1
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>>4691059
Support, It's time to infodump rin. And rin is the queen of info dumps.
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>>4691059
>>4691055
Support, hopefully Medea can warp Ayaka to us and we can explain the situation. Especially regarding her sister Left Manaka and prepare her to whoo Gil on short notice.
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>>4691141
Not anymore, our presence in this world has siphoned away the majority of her infodumping power.
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>"I'd like for us to go and pay Tamamo a visit now. We need to recover Kiritsugu's soul."

What would getting Ayaka do? I'm pretty sure this Gil is vastly different and won't give a shit.
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>>4691202
I highly doubt the Gil plan would fail, if you actually research her she is pretty ridiculous with her otome powers. She was able to turn Proto SAlter back to normal with no rule breaker, contract with four whole servants with the weakest Master Degree, and of course whoo demi-gods and pretty boys left and right simply by taking off her glasses. If the Gil plan does not work, she could at least be the key to saving Left Manaka and pull Saber Proto for memes.
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>>4691215
Didn't Manaka try to sack her twice? So how would she save Manaka? If I remember correctly Manaka only lost because Saber betrays her each time she does some shit.
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>>4691217
Left Manaka is different though, she seems to just be following what Right Manaka is doing for fun. The only reason why Right Manaka hates Ayaka is because of the attention Saber gives Aya when they were kids. Left Manaka has no reason to hate her sister.
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>>4691221
I'm pretty sure you have your Manaka's switched.
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>>4691224
Are you retarded? The Left Manaka is the one from our world, Right one is the one with the stab wound. You don't have to gaslight and troll if you don't agree with me anon.
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>>4691224
>The girl on the left is wearing a perfect undamaged blue dress, while the girl on the right is wearing the same dress, only it has been torn and damaged, her shoulders exposed, as is the thin red wound in the middle of the complicated winged marking on her chest. Your eyes widen as you recognize them.

Right Manaka is Proto Manaka. Until any evidence at all exists that suggests that she isn't the batshit crazy one, she's the batshit crazy one we need to kill to save reality.
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>>4691059
Support
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>>4691230
Wasnt Manaka always insane? She sacked her father when she won her Grail war because she alrey had a connection to the root and Saber. If one of the Manaka's doesn't have the stab wound then she doesn't have that attachment but that doesn't make her any less insane.

Do we even know what that Manaka has gone through yet? For all we know Ayaka is still a child and the first grail war hasn't happened yet. It wasn't until the first one where Manka comes out the closet as insane.
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>>4691265
No. The Manaka that exist outside of the Fate/Prototype branch are described as having a "relatively normal" life and relationship with Ayaka.
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>>4691277
So does this Manaka not know how insane her foreign version is. Or is she ok with erasing everything?
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>>4691281
To be fair, I'd be more willing to go along with pretty much anything if it was me asking me to do it.
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>>4691281
She just looked bored? I think she may have some wish that the insane manaka said she can realize? I need to reread that part.
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>>4691304
doesn't count
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>>4691288
Shinji is either being lied to or Manaka native is being lied to or is insane. So Ayaka is a gamble on which one of these are true.
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>>4691319
Hopefully talking to Ayaka can give us insight into what's going on with this world's Manaka.
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We should go see how Taiga is.
And think about telling her about magic and the war.
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>>4691277
how do we know how the non prototype Manaka acts?
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>>4691362
why
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>>4691287
Even if its femShinji?
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>>4691367
why not, she may still be in danger.
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>>4691367
Also, she will know eventually when we conquer britain, so its better to tell her before that.
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>huge dimly glowing summoning circle
What are we summoning with it?
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>>4691410
My dick
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>>4691413
So Kama?
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>>4691422
Yes
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>>4691364
She comes up in reference to Ayaka in Fate/School Life.
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>>4691410
Probably actually angry manju. I bet zouken found out about him and is trying to summon him.
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>>4691512
That would be bad. Our Avenger can beat his Avenger single-handedly, but I don't want his soul going into Sakura or Ilya.
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>>4691410
I think Zouken might be trying to summon a Beast.
Maybe some other stupid broken Servant like a Divine Spirit like Surtr or Fenrir.
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>>4691059
>>4691055
Support this. Time to kill a priest.

>>4691202
Ayaka perfectly seduces the teenage Gilgamesh, not much of a stretch that she'd still be able to handle it. Have faith.
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>>4691055
>>"I'm worried about Zouken and what he has planned, it might be time to strike at him immediately."
We DO NOT need more shit to deal with right now. And Zouken is desperate enough right to so try to summon something NASTY .
Remember guys, Zouken is a host for one of the Demon God Pillars (Barbatos to be exact).
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>>4691055
>>4691059
Support
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>>4691681
What if he's trying to summon Goetia?
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>>4691681
>>4691685
And for his last trick grandpa is going to steal power from outer god!
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>>4691681
Aka the best boy out of all the pillars

I'll never forget you and your material drops, Brobatos ;_;7
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>>4691055
>I'm worried about Zouken and what he has planned, it might be time to strike at him immediately.

Even though I would've preferred for Sakura to be around when he's disposed of, leaving him time to do more when he's had enough is probably not a good idea
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Why didn't we kill this worm fuck immediately to start with?
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>>4691730
First, he blindsided us and escaped, next we couldn't find him and then we had bigger things to worry about.
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>>4691055
Supporting >>4691059
It is about time for Rin to learn full story but I think it is better to kill Zouken first because his summoning might results in another serious problem.
>>4691730
Pre-war he got really lucky and after the war started we got a lot more than we were expecting so priorities shifted.
It is however really good moment to deal with him since nobody outside of our group and Manaka knows that we got Medea back.
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Somehow I get the feeling that killing Zouken won't be easy.
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I kinda feel bad for Kirei.
From the Big Bad of two routes to basically complete irrelevance for Rin to execute.
Speaking of Kirei, should we bother with Caren?
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>>4691757
He kept orphans in the basement to be used as meat batteries for Gil, he deserves no pity whatsoever. If we're not the ones who would do it, Ciel would curbstomp him after learning the truth about Kirei. Idk about Caren because I never read up on HA
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>>4691752
He had a lot of time to prepare and observe but sheer power of our allies and Truth is ten times more than a match for anything he can try to do short of summoning world ending threat.
He might has prepared some nasty suprises on the scale of Touko`s demon though. Always a chance for something like that.
>>4691757
Kirei might still has plan or two up his sleeve. Not that it would help him.
In terms of irrelevance Roa and Nrvnqsr got shafted even harder from bigger story.
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>>4691763
>In terms of irrelevance Roa and Nrvnqsr got shafted even harder from bigger story.
I still laugh every time I think about our Tsukihime world-record speedrun.
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>>4691759
He does deserve a measure of pity for being damaged the way he is. That said, he did choose to pursue his rejoicing so he gets what is coming to him.
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>>4691763
Our Shinji is the ultimate Chad, he made Shirou monogamous, cucked Shiki out of two whole routes, cucked multiple villans out of even having a chance of being a threat, became the second coming of Merlin, has multiple women and the consiousness of humanity pining for him and two kids before his twenties and now we may be possibly arrange marrying an otome protag and one of the most powerful servants period as well as killing a Dark Goddess.
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>>4691773
At least kirei tried being a normal person.
shame God made him only being able to feel from despair.
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>>4691774
>Our Shinji is the ultimate Chad
Chad AND Virgin, the whole meme in a single person.
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>>4691774
>>4691781
Chad Virgin canon Shinji vs Virgin Chad Isekai Reincarnation Shinji.
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>>4691759
Didn't we already tell Ciel?
Surprised she hasn't executed the executor yet
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>>4691806
Waiting for result of heist I would imagine.
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>>4691810
Not like she really needs the fucking Lance of Longinus to deal with Kotomine.
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>>4691806
Didn't she say she was going to take care of something in misaki town before rejoining us. I would assume whatever she did took a while.
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>>4691812
Yeah but killing him first could have warned the church.
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>>4691816
Warned them about what?
Dante from DMC breaking into the vatican to rob them?
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>>4691820
Her going rogue.
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So what are the odds we can get the clock tower on our side?
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>>4691836
100%. We just have to murder every other Lord and put Waver in charge first.
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>>4691836
They are more likely to dissect us if they could get us alone and vulnerable. Inner politics within would not allow some high school Japanese brat to call the shots. By the way, wouldn't Shinji be the Sixth True Magic since he could manipulate Akasha itself? I think we're more than deserving of being the Sixth.
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>>4691843
Maybe Shinji is the secret Fourth Magic that nobody knows what it does.
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>>4691856
No because that guy exists already, it's just that nobody knows who he is or what he can do.
Which is weird, because it kind of calls into question how anyone knows that there is a Forth Magician and that what he has is the Fourth Magic.
At least with the First some people know what it was.
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>>4691843
>>4691856
I think our powers might actually be above True Magic in terms of mystery.
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>>4691868
Remember blank extra rank dead apostle ancestor?
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Seeing as Shirou is capable of creating matter from a tiny amount of energy that stays in existence indefinitely, we need to give him lessons on Nuclear Fission, Nuclear Fusion and especially Matter Energy.
We can turn UBW into an infinite mana factory if we help Shirou build a Nuclear Reactor in it.
Monica has the ability to transform electrical energy to magical energy, so if we had Morgan transplant that skill onto Shirou with a nuclear reactor in UBW, then our boy would have infinite magic, right?
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>>4691875
Medea, I need you to teleport all gold from fort Knox here.
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>>4691896
We'll be the richest person in the entire world by the time the 2009 financial crisis comes around. We could buy out the British Royal family and establish Mordred as King by simply greasing the right hands.
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I hope we get to see Shirou and Saber fight together properly.
Would be absolute kino.
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>>4691914
That's such a boring way to take over.
Mordred needs a proper uprising, she's not going to be content with being just another cog in the current system.
I for one welcome the new absolute monarch of the UK.
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>>4691919
I'd have to agree.
It just wouldn't be Mordred if she got her way through secret deals and political collusion.
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Ok so what are we going to do about Iskandar if we rescue him from Manaka?
He's gonna want to conquer shit himself.
I guess we could try to convince him to become a general out of gratitude for saving him.
Or we make Mordred an Empress instead so Alex can still call himself a king.
Otherwise we're setting ourselves up for future conflict.
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>>4691922
>Secret Deals and Political Collusion
Which would be unavoidable to do unless we really want to have a super powered throwdown with assumably the Church and Mage's Association. I don't think any form of coverup could explain why London was leveled by Exaclibur-level blasts hitting mages and executioners who are trying to stop us from usurping the throne. Sure we can take over Britian probably with not much competition but everyone in the entire world would learn that magic is real and governments all around the world would want to get their hands on the destrutive powers and objects that may entail. It would be a fun hot mess, but a political nightmare. I'm kinda down for seeing how it plays out for the memes though if we were to go for this war route though.
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>>4691931
Iskandar will have plenty of fun conquering religious extremists in the middle east, and the U.S. would be very, very confused.
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>>4691934
>Catholic Church
>caring about the UK royal family.
Lol
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>>4691942
Church Executioners would be stopping us for being heretics, stealing holy artifacts and endagering an entire countries worth of lives from our fight with the Mage's Association which said country may also contain holy artifiacts. They don't give a rats ass about the royal scabble though.
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>>4691938
But would he be ok with not being #1?
Gil is gonna be a pain if Ayaka can't calm his tits.
>>4691943
Executors are like mob characters in a musou. No threat at to us all.
Not to mention they'd probably consider the destruction of Clocktower worth it.
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We also promised to help Miho with her dead relative if I recal correctly.
I am not sure we can do true resurrection but if we can do it this is another thing on the list why Church would want us really dead.
Imagine just resurrecting some saints or famous historical figures.
>"Hey, Waver, just calling you to tell I have here with me JFK, Lenin and Saint Bernard. Do you want to ask them something?"

And WhatIs you forgot to update Ibaraki`s pastebin with Miho.
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Oh, so I did.
Thanks, anon.

Anyway, sorry for the delay, I've had a terribly busy morning.
I'll start writing in like thirty minutes, I've only just managed to get some free time.
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>>4691986
You really should not apologize all the time since you are pulling more weight than majority of board QMs.
Speaking of update though. Are we going to get second part of interlude soon?
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>>4691986
Why are you always apologizing despite being the fastest writer on the board?
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>>4691986
Dude you're the most active and consistent QM on the board. There were countless others who would just ghost in the middle of the story. We're nearing the conclusion of the main arc and I'm impressed.
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>>4691986
Mush, writefag, mush.
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>>4691410
Well considering that Enhance and Ciel are getting us the Lance of Longinus and we're in desperate need of a bro...
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>>4692185
you can't mean...
Charles?
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>>4692185
Are you sure Longinus is gonna be a bro?
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>>4692185
>>4692188
>>4692190
If we are using it to summon specific bro Servant and not rolling gacha I personally would prefer to get Li Shuwen, preferably as Assassin.
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>>4692190
Yeah he's bro material, plus he's a god tier servant since I think his Lance is on the same level as Artoria and Romulus's
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You take a deep breath as you turn to the twin-tailed girl sitting on one of the couches. "Rin... do you want to know the truth about Kirei Kotomine? I think I've kept this from you long enough, and I've had enough of concealing things from you." You decide that if you're going to go ahead and kill Kotomine, Rin should be the one to do it. The girl deserves to get her revenge on the man who killed her father.

"Concealing things from me...? Shinji, what... what are you talking about? What's Kirei got to do with anything?" Rin's voice is immediately worried, the toic of Kirei apparently getting her attention very quickly.

"The man is bad news, anyone with half a brain can figure out that there's something terribly wrong with Kirei Kotomine." You say calmly, though apparently this doesn't apply to Bazett, clearly the Clocktower just aren't sending their brightest. "But that's not the reason I'm bringing him up." You sigh. "Rin... How did your father, Tokiomi, die?"

"Well, he... he died in the Fourth Grail War, he was killed fighting for the Holy Grail by one of the enemy Masters or Servants... I... never really wanted to know the specific details of how he died..." Rin doesn't sound very happy to all of a sudden having to relive the painful memories of the death of her father.

"He did die in the Fourth War, and he was killed at the hand of a Master." You confirm what Rin believes, before you clarify it. "Of course, what Kirei never told you, is that he was the Master who killed your father."

"W-what?" Rin's voice is shaky immediately as you reveal the truth behind the death of Tokiomi Tohsaka, and Rin's world is instantly turned on its head entirely. Of course the knowledge that your guardian of a decade was the man who murdered your father would cause somebody to freeze up.

"The Azoth Blade... it was originally a gift from Tokiomi to Kirei... of course, immediately after receiving it, the priest stabbed your father." Rin's eyes widen in horror and disgust, as if the crushing weight of years of betrayal on the part of a man she... well she never really trusted Kirei, but she almost certainly wouldn't have expected something like this from him. "Kotomine Kirei is a man who can only feel alive through witnessing the suffering of other people." You explain the motive that drives the priest, and Rin's expression of disgust only grows deeper. "He even kept all the orphaned children that survived the great fire of Fuyuki alive, and kept them in a secret room underneath the church to prolong their suffering and to act as living mana batteries. The entire room looks disgusted at that. Even Ibaraki, a natural born predator of humans, sees Kotomine's actions as a step too far. "Their suffering was ended when Kiritsugu bombed the place a few years back." You don't know if Kiritsugu knew about the kids, or if he was just trying to kill Kirei, but either way, he saved the poor tortured souls from their existence of suffering.
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"H-how do you know all this?" Rin doesn't sound like she doesn't believe your words, but she obviously wants to know just how you know something like this, thankfully, in a world of magic, it's easy to hand wave such knowledge with half-truths about the source of your knowledge. She wouldn't believe you if you told the truth and neither would anybody else, so you really have no choice but to lie.

"I saw it in a vision of the past, I believe you can have Archer clarify things, he ought to know whether or not I'm lying." Of course, nobody else other than Rin or your Servants will understand that Archer's knowledge comes directly from the future. When Archer nods silently and doesn't speak a word, Rin understands that the words you shared with her were nothing but the truth.

"And... where is he now?" Her voice is strained, she clearly wants to go and immediately kill the man after a lifetime of deception, and you can't blame her at all for wanting to kill him. Not that she'd have much difficulty defeating Kotomine now that she's got the Kaleidosword, there's really not much that Kotomine could do against such overwhelming firepower, other than maybe hope for Gilgamesh's intervention... which really isn't going to happen right now, Gilgamesh never really seemed like the sort of person to directly intervene for Kirei's sake.

"I'll have Medea scry for his exact location in just a moment, though if you're going to confront him, I'm going with you." You aren't going to allow Kirei to escape somehow through some trick, though with Archer on her side, the Executor is almost certainly going to die very painfully at Rin's behest. She's not the sort of girl who would happily torture somebody to death, but something like murdering her father and gifting her the murder weapon is something that nobody would be able to forgive. It's such a horribly awful thing to do to a person that you wouldn't be surprised if Rin felt the same way Illya once felt about Shirou towards Kirei right now. "First though, I'm going to need to scry for a few more people, I have... a theory about one of the Masters, so... I need to see Olga Marie Animusphere."

"Animusphere?" You can hear Aoko question your use of the name. Of course, seeing as Marisbury is a lord of the Clocktower, the name is quite a renowned one. You don't answer her, and instead continue focusing on the crystal... which stubbornly refuses to show any image at all.

"Medea?" You ask the woman who is looking at the crystal ball with a vexed expression, clearly she doesn't know just why it's not possible to find the location of the girl either. Just how could this have happened?

"I can only imagine that she's in the presence of a magus talented enough to somehow block my magic." She really does not sound pleased about that, and Morgan happily intervenes in the conversation in order to give her thoughts on the matter.
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"That would be Merlin, then. He was always happy to gloat about how his magecraft transcends even the magic wielded in the Age of Gods, even if he sputters out his incantations like a rank amateur, it could only be him blocking your magecraft." You were going to assume the same thing, of course, you already knew the identity of the girl with Merlin with almost complete certainty, but the confirmation is still nice, even if it's annoying that Merlin is capable of blocking Medea's magic like this. For somebody who acts like a bumbling fool so much, Merlin really is dangerously competent when the situation requires it.

You groan in annoyance at Merlin blocking your attempts to find Olga, but you quickly decide to change the target of the scrying. "OK, now... I need to see a girl called... Ayaka Sajyou." You honestly have no idea whether or not the girl will even exist in this timeline, but the existence of the two Manaka has gotten you curious, and it really can't hurt to check, can it? In fact, if her Otome Protagonist level of beauty is in check, then all you'll need for her to do is take off her glasses and Gilgamesh will fall madly in love with her! Heh, probably wishful thinking, but you never know. Gilgamesh is a man driven by his whims after all, and he may very well decide to pursue Ayaka in an actual romantic manner if he really does consider her beautiful like his Prototype counterpart did, unlike his relationship with Saber, where his obsession is... well he basically just wants to make Saber into his property.

The crystal ball responds to your wishes, and you soon find yourself staring at a girl staring out of a window with a sad expression on her face, she seems to be watching... two crows out of her window, which are hopping about on a grassy garden. She looks every bit like the Ayaka from Prototype, though she doesn't like much older than fifteen, that would still make her older than Manaka! Well, older than the Manaka that seemingly came from this world at least. How strange.

"Master, is there any reason that you're having me scry on this girl?" Medea asks you, she clearly doesn't understand just what you're up to. Not like you'd expect her to have even the faintest clue about your thought process here, after all, it's such an insane idea that even you don't know if it will work, and it will be the simplest way to pacify Gilgamesh into not wanting to genocide humanity short of maybe summoning Enkidu, and that sort of comes with the problem of Ishtar summoning herself into whatever compatible vessel she can find.

>"There is, but first I'm going to need you to teleport her to us."
>"There is, but first I'm going to need you to teleport me to her."
>"There is. What you're looking at is the most beautiful human on the entire planet... so long as she removes her glasses."
>"There is. I'm going to have her seduce Gilgamesh for us."
>"Not really, no."
>Write-in...
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Well, it's a far fetched idea, so let's not spill the beans yet. I am unsure whether we should teleport to her or teleport her to us though.
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>>4692211
>>"There is, but first I'm going to need you to teleport me to her."
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>>4692211
>"There is, but first I'm going to need you to teleport me to her."
Hello, I'm the magic man. I bring magic.
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>>4692211
>>"There is, but first I'm going to need you to teleport her to us."
>Write-in...
"She may be our ticket to securing several diferrent victories in the few remaining days we have to prepare against Manaka. But we will especially need her to potientally get the King of Heroes on our side indefinetly. You see... she is the sister of one of the Manaka's beneath the basement, and is enchantingly beautiful to the point where she can beings from the age of gods by simply removing her glasses."
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>>4692225
she can seduce beings*
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>>4692211
>>"There is, but first I'm going to need you to teleport her to us."
>>" What you're looking at is the most beautiful human on the entire planet... so long as she removes her glasses."
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>>4692211
>"There is, but first I'm going to need you to teleport me to her."
+1 FOR THE HAREM BAYBEE
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>>4692211
>"There is, but first I'm going to need you to teleport me to her."
We can ask her but I would rather avoid doing bride stealing for GIl.
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>>4692211
>"There is, but first I'm going to need you to teleport me to her."
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>>4692211
>"There is, but first I'm going to need you to teleport me to her."
Are we just going to teleport in front of this fifteen year old girl and tell her that her sister is going to become god and destroy reality in a week?
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>>4692225
>>4692211
Actually changing my vote to
>>>"There is, but first I'm going to need you to teleport me to her."
It would be better to infodump her in person instead of magically kidnapping her. By the way, Shinji and Proto Rider are kind of similar looking sans the Purple hair and Medusa constantly makes comparisons between Perseus and Shinji... I hope Aya dosen't fall in love with us instead, we got too many chicks to worry about already.
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>>4692239
idk Shinji is canonically quite the looker so having a handsome guy teleport in front of you and drag you towards adventure seems like romance
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>>4692246
Nothing says romance like a wizard breaking into your home to marry you off to an ancient mesopotamian king.
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>>4692249
Hey at least said Mesopotamia King is considerably ripped, rich with his infinite money stores behind his portals and looks like a K-Pop bishounen with his hair down. He's literally every single Girl's dream.
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>>4692252
Arthur is gonna show up too, considerable options for her
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>>4692239
We can tell her about Manaka and ask if she is willing to help us out. With good luck her showing up might sow some discord among Manakas.
Just throwing her at Gilgamesh if she ends up uninterested in him is something I want to avoid.
All that grooming really makes us look like a Merlin.
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Calling in 30
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>>4692211
>The crystal ball responds to your wishes, and you soon find yourself staring at a girl staring out of a window with a sad expression on her face
its actually gonna end up being extremely funny when her Otome Protagonist EX activates the moment she lands in Fuyuki and she has like 5 guys pining for her
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>>4692262
I am half expecting Cu and Gil to be aged down suddenly via Otome protag magic when seeing her to their prototype forms heh. I mean this is the same chick that can reverse grail corruption on SAlter Proto with no rule breaker!
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>>4692211
>"There is, but first I'm going to need you to teleport me to her."
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>>4692267
I'm half expecting Shinji to have a double take when she takes her glasses off and EMIYA and Enhance to be a love interest for her
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>>4692270
shinji route never ever
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>>4692211
>"She is Manaka's sister. And if I'm right, she will be the key for solving another problem as well."
>"But first I'm going to need you to teleport me to her."
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>>4692270
>>4692272
Shiki route confirmed.
But can she get SHIKI ending?
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>>4692278
>Shinji route
>Gilgamesh route
>Arthur route
>EMIYA route
>SHIKI route
>Cu route
>Enhance route
Which route do you think she's gonna take?
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>>4692280
You forgot Waver route, anon.
Or maybe even Flat route.
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>>4692282
9 routes is a bit much for one game.
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>>4692280
>Sacchin Route
>Illya Route
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>>4692284
the common route is pretty long and some routes are really similar to each other until near the ending
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>>4692286
She has lesbian routes?! Where's Rin then or Misaya if she is gonna show up?
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>>4692286
forbidden, in more ways than one
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"There is, but first I'm going to need you to teleport me to her." You continue observing the girl, and you must admit that even with her glasses on, she has incredibly favorable features. It's almost like you're staring at somebody with a Mystic Face like Diarmuid with an effect that is reversed to work on men, how very bizarre, though you feel nothing more than minor attraction to the girl. You don't think there's truly any sort of magical effects going on, she's just... incredibly pretty. The power of an Otome Protagonist hasn't been lost, it seems, and is in truth quite the terrifying power indeed.

"R-right now?" Medea sounds fairly startled by your sudden decision to go and visit this girl who she knows absolutely nothing about, though she quickly manages to regain her composure despite her strange outburst of surprise.

"Right now. She could be crucial to our victory. After all, she's the sister of the girl underneath the temple." You reveal Ayaka's connection to Manaka, it's a convenient way to disguise your true reasons behind wanting to locate her. In truth she's not really going to have much luck in convincing Manaka to stop her wicked actions, but taking advantage of her beauty to get Gilgamesh to agree to stop being such an ass may very well be a possibility.

"Then... very well, Master, I take it you'll be wanting to go alone? I'll keep an eye on you from afar, and this girl... she doesn't seem to be any real sort of threat and I imagine she might not appreciate her room being filled with people she doesn't know." You kind of doubt that she's going to appreciate her room being suddenly occupied by anybody she doesn't know, but you feel like you will be justified in the end anyway.

"Tροψα!" Medea shouts her spell, and you find yourself whisked away to some house in Tokyo, staring directly at the girl, who has yet to notice your arrival as she stares out her window at the birds below. You... You're in her room, you don't know how you managed to miss this from scrying on her, but the angle was just right for you to completely miss the presence of a bed in the room.

A floorboard creaks underneath your feet, and the girl, startled, turns to look at you, her face showing a great deal of panic. "W-who are you?! How did you get into my room?!" Well, this could've gone better. Might've been a better idea to have asked Medea to instead teleport you to the front door of Ayaka's house. Oh well.

>"I'm here to talk to you about your sister."
>"Hello, would you like to help me save the universe?"
>"Come with me if you want to live."
>"Sorry about the intrusion, but I need your help."
>Write-in...
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>>4692354
>"I'm here to talk to you about your sister."
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>>4692354
>>"Sorry about the intrusion, but I need your help."
>>"I'm here to talk to you about your sister."
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>>4692365
+1
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>>4692354
>>4692365
support

I am tempted by the Scharzenegger line, but it's not gonna lead to success.
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>>4692354
>>4692365
Support
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>>4692354
>>4692365
Support
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>>4692365
Support
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Calling in 30
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>Introduce yourself.
>"Sorry about the intrusion, but I need your help."
>"I'm here to talk to you about your sister."
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>>4692354
>>4692365
Support
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>>4692354
Come with me if you want to live
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"Sorry about the intrusion, but I need your help." You tell the girl in a calm voice, hoping to calm her down a little. "It might not be that much of a comfort, but I'm a magus like you are, and I'm not here to harm you at all, quite the opposite, actually." Ayaka's eyes widen a little bit as you casually mention that you're a magus like she is, and you keep talking. "Good, that got your attention, well, I'm here for one... specific reason." You look the girl in the eyes. "Do you... have a sister? And... is she missing right now?"

"You mean... you're talking about... Manaka, aren't you? Do you know where she is? I've been so worried about her since she disappeared a few weeks ago!" That... wasn't the reaction you were expecting, you're going to be honest. "Do you know where my younger sister is then? Is she in trouble?" Hold on a second, younger sister? So Ayaka really is the older sister in this timeline? A strange change, but you suppose that explains the two Manaka having near identical ages despite one of them being a sort of undead being incapable of aging.

"It's... really kind of complicated." You evade answering the question fully. Seeing as Ayaka seems to actually have a more positive opinion of her sister than you were originally expecting her to have, you don't really want to drop the bomb that she's working with herself in order to destroy reality itself. "But yeah... I'd say she's in a whole heap of trouble right now." Namely the fact that the Outer Gods are outright calling for her death is enough trouble for anybody to deal with. "But, where are my manners? Here I am talking about your missing sister and asking for your help, and I haven't even bothered to properly introduce myself!" You hold a hand out to the girl. "I am Shinji Makiri, Lord of the Makiri family, slayer of Dead Apostle Ancestors, and advisor to the King of Britain." You could probably make more and more titles for yourself based on your achievements, but there's not really much of a point to that.
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The girl looks at your friendly offer of a handshake before she takes it. "Uhm... Ayaka Sajyou... heir to the Sajyou family of magi." She introduces herself despite the fact that she already knew you knew who she was. Well, you suppose it is more polite than to just assume. "I'd take you to see my father, but he's on a business trip in London to the Clocktower right now trying to hire somebody to find Manaka... So I've been left in charge of the house until he gets back next week." Seems fairly irresponsible considering the girl only looks like she's about sixteen years old, but whatever, she's training to be a magus after all. "So... you said you need my help, but what do you really need my help for, I'm... not exactly a very talented magus. In fact, Manaka basically outshone me in every regard." There's a little bit of jealousy in Ayaka's voice as she talks about her sister, though you can't really blame her jealousy towards her sister for being far more naturally gifted than pretty much any magus ever.

"You shouldn't sell yourself so short, Ayaka, I'm sure you've just not uncovered your true talent yet." That being her talent to unwittingly seduce some of the most powerful men on the planet. Of course, telling her that isn't going to be very useful to you or her, and would probably just offend her. "But regardless, I need you to..."

>"...Help me try to talk your sister down."
>"...Make an Ancient Sumerian Godking fall in love with you so he doesn't want to destroy humanity."
>"...Summon a Servant, so you can take part in the Holy Grail War... kind of."
>"...Help me save the world... No, the entire universe."
>Write-in...
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>>4692475
>"...Help me try to talk your sister down."
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>>4692475
>"...Help me try to talk your sister down."
>"...Make an Ancient Sumerian Godking fall in love with you so he doesn't want to destroy humanity."
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Good to have confirmation that our metaknowledge is applicable here. And we really need to be careful on how we handle this, especially when she takes her glasses off. It's gonna be a radioactive bomb that doesn't distinguish friend from foe.
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>>4692475
>>"...Help me try to talk your sister down."
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>>4692475
>...Help me try to talk your sister down."
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>>4692475
>>"...Help me try to talk your sister down."
>"...Summon a Servant, so you can take part in the Holy Grail War... kind of."
>"...Help me save the world... No, the entire universe."
>"and even maybe some more things, who knows, you may even come out of this with more than what you expect."
We cant just tell her that we want her to make someone fall in love with her, thats way too much, that shit has to be natural, and considering that we are on a "truce" with gilgamesh as of now, when he visits next time we just need to time it so he meets her without glasses.
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>>4692475
>"...Summon a Servant, so you can take part in the Holy Grail War... kind of."
>"...Help me save the world... No, the entire universe."

Summon male saber to kill foreign Manaka while we're at it. We know Zouken has a circle we can barrow.

>"...Help me try to talk your sister down."

Talk down native Manaka.
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>>4692475
>>4692502
Support
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>>4692502
>>4692504
You know, this isn't a vote for the entirety of what we are doing with Ayaka, its a vote for what we are asking her to do right now.
We don't need to outline everything she could possibly do to help right at this moment.
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Ehm, guys, we're planning to set her up with Gil. Don't you think summoning Arthur is gonna mess up that plan? Also, let's not dump everything on her lap right away, she's not used to the Shinji brand of craziness yet.
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>>4692516
Don't really care about Gil, just want Manaka out of our hair. Summoning Arthur might allow us to kill one and turn the other.
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>>4692475
>>4692502
Supporting this, we have only a week to stop Manaka. We don't have time to lie to her like the people who would have lied to her in her own story. Emphasize how important "winning" this Grail War by destroying the Grail is to saving the multiverse full of people's lives are.
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>>4692521
Alright, I suppose this is gonna be the vote on whether we want Gil reformed or killed. Also, why do you think Arthur is gonna be helpful in talking Manaka down? He's gonna fall for the otome protagonist and create another friction point between the sisters.
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>>4692516
Having Arthur around did not necessarily stop Gil and two other dudes in her story from pining for her. Besides, do you really think that setting her up with Gil as the "main love interest" would stop her otome powers from attractive the other eligible bachelors in our party, or outsiders like Merlin from pining for her?
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>>4692516
She'll learn quickly now that we've introduced ourselves as a vampire slayer and advisor to a future king of England.
>>4692522
I'd rather acclimate her to what's going on over the course of at least thirty minutes instead of spewing a stream of incomprehensible bullshit in her ear before teleporting her across the country.
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>>4692526
Fate characters handle info dumps very well, and keep in mind she is also magus who read up about things like this. She might not be Rin level knowledgeable about the magical world but darn close.
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>>4692531
I still think its more effective to get her on board with something she can easily conceptualize and connect to as motivation to help us (her sister is making a mistake and needs help) rather than leading with something more distant and fantastical (the ancient king of uruk is going to attempt genocide if you don't fuck him).
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>>4692537
I don't think the choice I voted for said that she has to seduce Gil right away. We'll make it play out normally, do it anime comic relief style where we swipe her glasses when we meet with Gil or something.
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>>4692502
Support
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Calling in 30 minutes.
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>>4692525
>Having Arthur around did not necessarily stop Gil and two other dudes in her story from pining for her.
Yes, but it stops her from pining for him, if there's ever a chance for it. How do you think Gil's gonna react when he sees the love of his life being smitten with Arthur?

>Besides, do you really think that setting her up with Gil as the "main love interest" would stop her otome powers from attractive the other eligible bachelors in our party, or outsiders like Merlin from pining for her?
Well, that's exactly why I said we have to be extra careful and deal with her otome powers like they're radioactive. I don't think you're expressing the appropriate caution here.
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>>4692475
>"...Help me try to talk your sister down."
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>>4692555
Well if you have an alternative and don't like the course of the story make a vote for it when the time comes up to summon Saber. Just because we say we will do it doesn't mean that we will actually do it, we said we would bathe in Dragon's Blood at the Tohno mansion and it didn't happen. Having Arthur around doesn't mean that she would automatically attach herself to Arthur, otherwise Protoype would not be an otome multi route game.
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Fox wife
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Nun wife
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>>4692566
...has no chance of getting with us outside of harem route unless she wants to be vored by Sakura or Dragon Daughter. Which is a pretty hot tradeoff, there's probably obscure hentai of that somewhere.
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>>4692560
Well, I do have an alternative: Don't summon Arthur, and don't tell her anything about the possibility. I am arguing in favor of that alternative. I don't know what got your pants on a twist so much about people disagreeing with you.
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"I need you to help me try to talk your sister down." You decide to start by telling Ayaka that of everyone, asides from maybe the male King Arthur, she's got about the best odds of talking Manaka down from what she's doing right now, of course, her words obviously wouldn't reach the Manaka of the other timeline, but you don't believe that the Manaka from this world is completely lost to her own inner darkness yet. Not like her counterpart is, at least.

"Talk her down...? What do you mean?" Ayaka sounds confused by your sudden admission that Manaka is a potential threat, and she clearly doesn't seem to get just what your point is just yet. "Is she doing something wrong?" The girl seems to have a lot of faith in her younger sister, and you can't blame her for believing that Manaka isn't the sort of person to get into trouble. She's really not the sort of girl who would ever seek it out.

"Well, she's helping herself from a parallel timeline gather enough power to destroy the world as we know it, so... in a sense, yeah. She's doing something very wrong indeed." Ayaka's face goes pale as she listens to your words, clearly she wasn't expecting you to say that Manaka was involved in something like that at all, though despite your words, Ayaka doesn't fully seem convinced. Well, of course, it's a lot to break in that your missing sister would be trying to end reality, but even if she doesn't fully believe you right now, there's a part of her that seems to at least in some way believe what you're telling her. "She seems to only really be going along with what her parallel self is asking her though, she doesn't seem nearly as malicious at the other version of herself." The Manaka standing on the left did seem to be a far more affable sort of character than the one on the right, who didn't even look like they wanted to give you the time of day

"Are... Are you sure?" Ayaka questions you one last time, and though her voice is shaky, she very clearly still wants to believe in the innocence of her younger sister. It's strange that Ayaka is the elder sister in this world, but for some odd reason, it seems to have led to the two siblings having a much healthier relationship with each other, well, that and the lack of a Holy Grail War their family was actually involved in never tore the family apart or gave Manaka the motivation she needed in order to wield her power to the fullest degrees.

You frown as you respond. "Absolutely certain, I met her, and it couldn't have been anybody else." Manaka frowns deeply at that, and you feel a little bad for telling her about the fact that her younger sister is a threat that will need to be dealt with. "Well... that's not all you can help with though." In fact there are a few ways that Ayaka might be able to help other than just helping out with trying to convince Manaka to stop trying to destroy everything.
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"It's... not?" Ayaka doesn't sound so certain in your apparent confidence in her, but she does at least seem reassured by the smile you're giving her. It's nice to know that for as charming as Ayaka might be capable of being, you can be just as charming, granted that the target is a woman.

"Of course it's not. While you might not have much faith in your abilities as a magus yet, you'd make for an excellent Master to a Servant!" Specifically, a certain Saber, and if it is at all possible for anybody to summon the man from an alternate timeline, it would be this girl, and if you're not mistaken, seeing as Mordred managed to incarnate through the usage of Caliburn, then the Holy Grail may actually be seeking to replace the Second Saber slot. It's still odd that the Holy Grail summoned two sets of Servants, but again, it can only have been due to Manaka's tampering with the grail. Perhaps an unintended side effect of her usage of the grail to summon the Servants of the Fourth War? Regardless, if the Second Slot is open, then it ought to be possible for somebody like Ayaka to become a Master. She's certainly got the compatibility for it, and the Holy Grail at this point probably isn't really going to be all too picky about the selection of new Masters. "If an opportunity arises, I'd like for you to see if you can summon a Servant." If there's anybody who can defeat Manaka, it'll be the one man who has defeated in the past, no question.

"You... You think I could summon a Servant?" Ayaka doesn't sound entirely certain, and it looks like the girl might suffer from the same sort of confidence issues that seem to be fairly common among some of the girls that you know. Of course, that's not really that odd considering that she's basically been upstaged her entire life by her younger sister being the far superior magus in every regard except perhaps the quantity of her magic circuits.
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"I do, and if you're going to help me save the world... no, the entire universe, it might even end up being a requirement that you summon a Servant." You tell the girl who has a very conflicted expression. Clearly she wants to be happy at the idea that she's apparently necessary for saving the entire universe, but she's also clearly not certain whether or not you can be trusted despite your best efforts at being charming to her, and of course there's the crippling fear that comes naturally to anybody when they are told that the entire universe may end up falling apart and being destroyed. "There's probably plenty of stuff that you're good at, Ayaka, and if you help me save the world, then I'm certain you'll find at least one thing that you truly excel at." You feel like you should suggest she practice her formalcraft, considering she is apparently more talented with it than most magi tend to become, but that might be a little bit strange to suggest to her without actually properly getting to know her. She must already see you as a completely bizarre individual, and you don't really need to worsen her view of you by suggesting she switch up her style of magecraft like that, it comes off as really way too stalker-y.

"If... If you're really being serious about all this, then... I'll help you. Besides, if you really wanted to, you could've just teleported me directly to you and forced me to work for you, couldn't you?" Impressively, it seems like Ayaka has either guessed or managed to see through the truth of Caster's ability to manipulate space, and it's very much true that you could've simply taken Ayaka to you, but instead chose to go to her instead. It will at least hopefully help to build a level of trust between her and everyone else.

"Fantastic, I'm glad I can count on you to help, Ayaka." You briefly find yourself wondering if you could just sneak up on Zouken and use the summoning circle that he has set up in order to hijack his intended summon with a summon for Ayaka. Getting the aid of Saber Proto would be incredibly helpful, considering that somebody like Manaka in her current state would more than be enough for him to let loose the full power of Excalibur. The same is probably true with Saber and her own Excalibur, you're fairly certain that it once managed to destroy Sefar... somehow, so it must contain some great hidden power within it that will only come out when the world itself is in danger. "Now..."

>"Would you mind answering a few questions?" (What?)
>"Will you be willing to kill your sister if she refuses to stop her scheme?"
>"Please take my hand, I'm going to ask my Servant to teleport us."
>"Could you take your glasses off? Just for a few moments."
>Write-in...
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>>4692650
>"Please take my hand, I'm going to ask my Servant to teleport us."
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>>4692650
>>"Please take my hand, I'm going to ask my Servant to teleport us."
Time to begin our plans to save the universe in one week. This will be fun.
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>>4692650
>"Would you mind answering a few questions?" (What?)
"How do you feel about knights in shining armor, or kings?"

>"Please take my hand, I'm going to ask my Servant to teleport us."
>"Could you take your glasses off? Just for a few moments."

let's not bring up the "hey are you willing to kill your sister?" bit.
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>>4692650
Oh so that's what Zouken was doing, filling the Saber slot.

>"Please take my hand, I'm going to ask my Servant to teleport us."

Ya let's get started as quickly as possible.
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>>4692650
>"Please take my hand, I'm going to ask my Servant to teleport us."

Also, is that the last update of today?
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>>4692668
Yeah.
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>>4692650
>>"Please take my hand, I'm going to ask my Servant to teleport us."
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>>4692670
good, now i can go sleep
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>>4692650
>"Please take my hand, I'm going to ask my Servant to teleport us."

Well, at least we didn't immediately drop Gil down on her lap in addition to everything else.
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>>4692650
>"Please take my hand, I'm going to ask my Servant to teleport us."
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I was going to write something here, but I completely forgot what I was going to say. So have this maid Rin.
Good night.
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>>4692722
Anal leakage
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>>4692650
>"Please take my hand, I'm going to ask my Servant to teleport us."
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>>4692650
>>"Please take my hand, I'm going to ask my Servant to teleport us."
This is how we unlock Ayaka route and how Ayaka unlocks Shinji route
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>>4692730
shinji route never ever
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>>4692722
I wonder if her Proto-counterpart has defenseless anus syndrome too. No wonder Cu didn't leave Misaya until she literally died.
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>>4692782
rin tohsaka conceptually has a defenseless anus, no doubt her proto-version does too
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>>4692650
>"Please take my hand, I'm going to ask my Servant to teleport us."
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I wonder if Shinji's ever going to get the Hero Creation skill.
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>>4692807
We can give people Truth Futa cocks if thats what you're really implying. Worse of all we can make people into "True" Futas which would be totally in line with the upcoming ((current year)) sensibilities.
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>>4692825
I wonder how modern culture is going to be effected by ancient warlords returning to conquer europe and the big golden dragon spewing out magic everywhere.
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>>4692829
Second coming of the age of gods confirmed? With that much magecraft returning to the Shinjiverse version of Earth, humanity will have to deal with the fact that there is a magical world unless we play the political and the economic long con and lay super low which lets be honest most anons would not do. I'm down for it either way, especially seeing how "muggle" world governments will react and fair against our faction which lets be honest they would be obliterated if they oppose us. The Mage's Association will be a crater unless they look the other way, which inner politics would not allow.
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It wouldn't be an age of gods because all the gods are still stuck in the gbj dimension.
Now that Alítheia exists, humanity will no longer be able to destroy mystery by observing it, and this point is history is also defined by new innovations in communication changing the human consciousness.
This is most likely going to be an unprecedented era of change where for the first time in history science and magic are moving the same direction.
I think that last part is the most important, a big part of the Nasuverse is the divide between humanities growing understanding of the world and the power of the things humanity doesn't know, but now that it is possible to create large amounts of new mystery that divide is going to be destroyed.
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>>4692807
We doing something more akin to Hero's Assistant now.
Pointing people in right directions, providing advice and such.
>>4692825
Bold idea for someone who can transform into magical girl.
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"Now, please take my hand, I'm going to ask my Servant to teleport us." With any luck, Medea has been observing this entire meeting, and will get the signal to teleport you back, and well, if not you can always just speak with her through your telepathic link. Though you doubt it's going to be necessary. Unless something has gone terribly wrong in the five minutes that you've been talking to this girl. The girl still doesn't look certain whether or not she wants to take your hand. "Come on, Ayaka. I can't spend very long trying to convince you, by all accounts, we only have a week before the universe ends." You try to explain to the girl that this situation requies the utmost haste.

Ayaka hesitates for a moment before she decides to finally take your hand. "Alright. I... trust you." The girl still doesn't seem entirely certain about everything you've said, but that's just to be expected, after all, you've basically appeared in a teenage girl's bedroom and given her one of the most outlandish stories you possibly could before offering to teleport her away. Even if she believes you, it's natural that she'd be skeptical of you, even if you don't mean her any harm.

"Now, Medea, if you would." You calmly request your Servant to bring you back to her, and you don't even need to use the telepathic link you share with her in order to get the message to the woman, and a few seconds after you started holding Ayaka's hand, there's a flash of purple light as your vision distorts and the world around you changes, and you soon find yourself back in your own home, surrounded by your allies who are looking at the new arrival with curiosity.

"So, you successfully convinced her, I see." Medea half-congratulates you on your persuasive abilities, though she doesn't sound entirely sincere about things. Could she be perhaps worried that Ayaka might end up stealing your heart or something? Unlikely, for as cute as the girl is, you won't fall in love with her. Especially not when you're planning on potentially using her to pacify Gilgamesh. It really would not be good if that happened. Otome protagonist or not, you aren't going to fall for her.

"I did. Everyone, this is Ayaka Sajyou, the sister of Manaka Sajyou, the girl threatening reality. She's agreed to help us potentially talk her sister out of her plans." Well, you don't know if it will work, but the diplomatic approach is one you favor, even if you can get... a little too over-confident with it. Being punched in the jaw by Mordred with enough force to instantly knock you out wasn't exactly pleasant, and you'd really prefer to avoid being punched in the face by any Servants or Servant level beings in the future.
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"H-hello everyone." The girl's voice is meek. She clearly wasn't expecting to suddenly be greeted by such a large assortment of people, and the humorous thing is that this is only about half of your faction. The other half are traveling with Sakura in order to keep her safe from any potential threats that might go after her as a result of her unique abilities and the being sleeping within her. As she exists right now, Sakura could be used to end the entire world... or well, she could be used to have Tiamat end the entire world. But honestly, between Arcueid, Lugh and Alítheia, a lot of the people traveling with her could probably bring ruin on a worldwide scale with very little difficulty.

Ayaka's appearance doesn't receive all too much of a reaction from your allies, she mostly just gets a few welcomes, though she's clearly happier with things like this. She'd probably have a heart attack if everyone started making a big deal about her appearance. Mostly, your allies seem to have just gotten used to your ability to continually add new trustworthy allies to your ranks. Except well... Morgan, but she's mostly just here because it's probably easier to have her where you can see her than to have her plotting and scheming out of sight. Besides, she may very well be genuine about her apparent changed outlook, though that really does remain to be seen, only a fool would trust somebody like Morgan on her word, especially when you yourself barely know anything about the woman and whatever her true motives might be.

"So, now that you're back, can we... go and kill Kirei?" Rin's voice is hiding a dangerous bloodlust for Kirei, seems like she's had a little bit of time to dwell on Kirei's actions, and it has only managed to make her angrier about just what it is that he has done. You can't really blame her for wanting to exact vengeance on the man, he's a real piece of work, and if it was you who he had wronged like he has wronged Rin and it was only just revealed to you, you would probably be clamoring for his blood just like Rin is right now.

>"Alright, I doubt it will take very long. Let's go kill a fake priest." (Who do you want to take with you?)
>"Sorry Rin, but first, I kind of want to get rid of Zouken, he's a more active potential threat." (Who do you want to take with you?)
>"Actually, I want to retrieve something from the Einzbern Castle first. (Who do you want to take with you?)
>"Actually, I want to see if I can't track down Gilgamesh. I need to speak with him about something..."
>Write-in...
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>>4693026
>"Actually, I want to see if I can't track down Gilgamesh. I need to speak with him about something..."
On the off chance that Gilgamesh actually decides to be charitable and help Kirei last minute. Let's get the King of Heroes out of the way first.
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>>4693026
>"Sorry Rin, but first, I kind of want to get rid of Zouken, he's a more active potential threat."
>Betty, Mordred, SHIKI, Shiki and Morgan
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>>4693026
>"Actually, I want to see if I can't track down Gilgamesh. I need to speak with him about something..."
Without Gil Kirei should be defenseless.
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>>4693026
>"Actually, I want to see if I can't track down Gilgamesh. I need to speak with him about something..."
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>>4693026
>"Actually, I want to see if I can't track down Gilgamesh. I need to speak with him about something..."
Alright, now we're all set if we can set a meeting up, bring Ayaka and none of our male allies with us, and have her remove her glasses (or "accidentally" remove them ourselves).
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Calling in 30
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>>4693026
>>"Actually, I want to see if I can't track down Gilgamesh. I need to speak with him about something..."

sup dude, found you some company
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So we are getting Gil’s attention and then what?
I’m guessing we can simply introduce him to Ayaka as someone who may talk her sister out of being a world ending threat leaving only the pierced one as the adversary, with secret agenda of getting Ayaka to remove her glasses?
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>>4693076
yes.

gil immediately started simping the moment he saw her without glasses, so this should work
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>>4693076
Pretty much. Introduce Ayaka, coordinate the strike against Manaka, and also make sure he doesn't interfere when we go after Kotomine right after.
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>>4693078
>this should work
And if it doesn't, we don't really lose anything. We just go back to original plan and kill him after we deal with Manaka.
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>>4693062
Just finished part 8 of Elegy of Inheritance.
You got a chuckle out of me with reward for hide-and-seek scene.
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>>4693088
The quest gets cool, though despite that things still fell apart. Shame. I miss castlekino
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>>4693088
I'm not sure when the preperations for the sort of pseudo-sequel I'm working on are going to be done for it.
I still need to finish writing the epilogue so it can lead onto the new quest.
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>>4693026
>"Sorry Rin, but first, I kind of want to get rid of Zouken, he's a more active potential threat." (Who do you want to take with you?)

Zouken is a threat with a summoning circle. Get rid of him get Arthur and then kill the priest to appease Rin. Really shouldn't have told her right now if we didn't wish for her to go Khorne.
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"Actually, before we go after Kirei, I want to see if I can't track down Gilgamesh, I need to speak with him about a few things." For one, you need to find out if he's still been observing you since you left Fuyuki, or if he's been left in the dark about what you've been up to and more importantly, what Manaka is plotting. Of course, with Ayaka at your side, it might be possible for you to actually get Gilgamesh to stop being a threat to humanity and simply want to live with Ayaka somewhere quiet. You aren't entirely certain if he'll consider Ayaka attractive enough to want to live a life like that with her, in fact right now you're betting on Gilgamesh's tastes being similar to his Prototypical Counterpart, though to be fair, the prototype Gilgamesh is seemingly just Gilgamesh but a little bit younger. It might be best if you were to think of him as some sort of mix between Gilgamesh in his prime and Gilgamesh as a child. "Medea, can I scry one last time?" It's probably your best shot at fighting the King of Heroes in any reasonable timeframe.

The woman nods, and once again produces the crystal ball in which other people are capable of scrying upon. Now that you think about it, this thing is more like a mystic code than anything else, did she create this? It's unfortunate that it wouldn't be able to function without her knowledge of magic, but it's still far more useful and easy to use than trying to direct her to scry on somebody with just your words to go off of. There would be way too much risk of failure if you were to do that, and the spell probably wouldn't have a very high chance of succeeding unless the woman was provided with some sort of picture.

You place your palm on the crystal ball, imagining Gilgamesh, though instead of showing a clear image of the man, it remains dull and unresponsive, just as it had when you attempted to scry upon Olga Marie. "Damn, looks like he has some sort of Anti-Scrying Noble Phantasm." You probably should've guessed he'd have something like that, but it was worth a shot. "Looks like scrying for him isn't going to work." Yet if you can't scry for him, then you're either going to have to look for wherever he might currently be staying, or just do something else and wait for him to show up on his own.

>Look for places where Gilgamesh might currently be staying (Will require a dice roll)
>Put the bracelet on, it might alert him that you want to talk.
>Ask Medea if she has some other way to find Gilgamesh that doesn't require scrying.
>Just do something else for now, Gilgamesh can really wait until later on. (Do what?)
>Write-in...
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>>4693083
Or he kidnaps Ayaka like he attempted to do with Saber. Plus this Gil has a few changes from proto-type like grail mud. We don't know if everything will play out the same. It's a gamble that we are taking with this. Plus what are we going to tell her? The reason we brought you was to seduce Gil. That's a big blow to her confidence.
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>>4693122

>Just do something else for now, Gilgamesh can really wait until later on. (Do what?)
>"Sorry Rin, but first, I kind of want to get rid of Zouken, he's a more active potential threat." (Who do you want to take with you?)
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>>4693122
>Just do something else for now, Gilgamesh can really wait until later on. (Do what?)
>"Sorry Rin, but first, I kind of want to get rid of Zouken, he's a more active potential threat."
Kirei can die right after we are done with more imminent threat.
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>>4693122
>Just do something else for now, Gilgamesh can really wait until later on. (Do what?)
>Let's go after Kotomine. Gil might show up anyway.

>>4693123
>Plus what are we going to tell her? The reason we brought you was to seduce Gil. That's a big blow to her confidence.
Why would we tell her that? All we have to say is "The King of Heroes fell for you qt first sight? Oh, you like him too? Great! I wish you two live happily ever after."
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>>4693122
>>Put the bracelet on, it might alert him that you want to talk.
If this fails, then we go after Zouken. The bracelet has been here since the midpoint of the story and it still has not been used. This is the big chekov's gun.
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>>4693166
>>4693031
I am this ID by the way, I'm at work at my ip address changed.
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>>4693122
>Put the bracelet on, it might alert him that you want to talk.
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>>4693158
She's a smart girl, we tell her take off your glasses and look at the guy we just invited should be enough.
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>>4693123
Ayaka and Gil would at least be sticking around until the end of the war, Ayaka won't want to leave until her sister has been rescued. Gil isn't some neanderthal who would kidnap Ayaka and leave without solving the Manaka situation first.
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what's the plan with Gilgamesh?
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Call in thirty minutes.
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>>4693187
I'm suggesting we try out the bracelet to attempt to contact Gil before we go after Zouken or Kirei. Its a huge chekov's gun that has not been used at all the entire story.
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>>4693122
Switching from >>4693158 to
>Put the bracelet on, it might alert him that you want to talk
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>>4693025
>Well, you don't know if it will work, but the diplomatic approach is one you favor, even if you can get... a little too over-confident with it.
>you get a little too over-confident with it.
>you get a little too over-confident with it.
>you get a little too over-confident with it.
>you get a little too over-confident with it.
>you get a little too over-confident with it.
OKAY WE GET IT THANKS QM
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>>4693122
>>Put the bracelet on, it might alert him that you want to talk.
>"i hope"
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>>4693204
I am more worried about this
>Otome protagonist or not, you aren't going to fall for her.
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>>4693122

Supporting >>4693132

The act of scrying likely alerted Gil anyway so he may be showing up, and we should see him before approaching Kirei to ensure he doesn’t take our move against him as move against himself.
And I don’t like idea of Zouken summoning anything.
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>>4693216
we can just punch our own face until we stop looking at her
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>>4693216
I don’t think OP would usurp players in setting us on Ayaka route but I am more than a bit afraid Ayaka will be pursuing Shinji route.
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>>4693216
We can NO WAY FAG Ayaka in the event she falls for us. In the event Shinji falls for Ayaka, well, shit
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>>4693224
we can already roll the dice to not fall for her.
or ask medea to stab us with rule breaker to see if that works.
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>>4693216
We could just close our eyes or use Truth protection gogggles.
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>Go after Zouken
>>4693132
>>4693151
>>4693219

>Bracelet
>>4693170
>>4693196
>>4693205

Looks like a draw.
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Oh wait nevermind, I'm just blind.
>>4693166
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