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Less than a handful of your knights and the broken remnants of a pack of demihumans. The price of securing Carona once and for all against Artemis' machinations, and ensuring your position as the town's leadership.

The events of last night seem so far away come morning. A day of emotional exhaustion, and a victory you'd labored to claw together that left you feeling remarkably hollow for having achieved it, when by all merits you'd won the day splendidly and decisively; A feat few could claim in opposition to Artemis on the best of days. Yet despite their overwhelming numerical superiority and headstart in gaining the upperhand, it had cost you... So very, very little to see them rid of.

Standering in the foyer, your gaze lingers on Fen's empty desk. Papers remained as they were the day prior, and as they would until someone took the initiative to clean it going forward... Rinnier's secretary wasn't coming back, and his soft-spoken pride in being of aid still whispered quietly from the vacant seat. A name and a face you could decisively put to one of the handful you lost, which made feeling good about your achievement that much harder.

That Kara had been gone by the time you got back was...

You heaved a tired sigh, fingertips brushing against the tiara-esque visor that Lily had chosen to favor. A more subtle form than the golem ittypically presented itself as, though the sudden acquisition and decision for the Valen heir to start wearing a facial accessory would doubtlessly raise its own series of questions. The connection with Lily was still being maintained through the bracelet, its dual-rings warm against your left wrist, faintly echoing to you the curious contentment the young Dryad apparition had in accompanying you.

It was a welcome, if not particularly effective, distraction from the threat of ruminating on how lonely you felt. A gnawing sort of discomfort that you couldn't properly put your finger on, which had ultimately seen you request Ari give you space after your lectures last night - A good decision? The right one? It was the first time you'd really slept alone in some time. Part of you felt like it's what you needed... But another wondered quietly if pushing people away for space was a healing process, or the start of a spiral.

In either case, a pervasive anxiousness over what 'Hearts In Harmony' would have done in your state had ultimately made the decision for you, and would likely continue to make that decision for you... Because your thoughts on sleeping alone aside, the effects of that particular Atelier privilege were... complicated.

Ari hadn't been happy about it, of course, but she hadn't pressed the issue either. You don't know what you would have done if she had.
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Turning your attention from the empty foyer, you took a rough gauging of the morning's time. You'd be leaving for the Valen head's estate in response to your aunt's official summons shortly. The trip had been scheduled and planned, and you'd already distributed a notice to your knights for a contingent of them interested in martial training to report to accompany you. Rinnier was probably already with them at the edge of town, but you had a little time left before you had to leave.

...Honestly you could delay all you wanted, it wasn't like any of them were leaving until you said so, but the sooner the trip started the sooner you'd get there and see what all this was about.

As it stood, Dullem had been assigned to look after Carona for the time being. Nothing urgent here needed your presence, so leaving the knight captain as a soothing force in your absence should handle anything that comes up. Ari... Ari could honestly come or go, and it wasn't something you'd decided on, exactly.

Leaving her here with the flesh-golem Aspiration would give Dullem a potent source of back-up incase something unexpected occurred, but bringing her along would give you more time to go over her Adept progress in person... To say nothing of the fact that you knew she wouldn't be pleased about being left behind again.

Finally there was the Shrine. Doubtless they wanted a personal response from you on the events of that night, and while you weren't obligated to give them one, their willingness to play cooperatively with you might take a hit if you didn't. The position and actions they'd taken in regards to Carona's recovery occupied an ethically gray zone, given their official stance of neutrality outside of Mana related affairs... And you knew of at least one Representative in the Shrine that held no good opinion of you already.

But even if you weren't inclined to spite the Gnome Dominion, you'd not met with Mim at all. The longer you went without doing so, the more curious and worried she'd get - And you wouldn't be surprised if she started finding excuses to force a meeting, official or otherwise.

...Unfortunately it would have to wait, unless you planned on delaying your departure to Clara for an unreasonably long chunk of the day; You got the feeling that once you walked up the Shrine's stairs, you'd be there a while.
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Your uninjured hand strayed to the mask clinging improbably to your head. Inquiring as to whether Lily could take a more subtle form had led you through a number of possibilities before the apparition had seemingly settled fondly on this head ornament - Which at first glance more resembled a tiara than a mask proper. Smooth wooden spires curving delicately from the ridge of its band, with a prominently displayed amber droplet glimmering softly at the forefront.

The apparition needed no encouragement to spend its time perched atop your head, its thin ivy tendrils weaving through your hair to cling in place... And, to your mild consternation, meddling with your hair when you weren't paying attention. For the time being you were content to leave it there, obscuring your actual hairband - Something you'd idly been musing over the redundance of in the meantime. Yet, despite the snug fit of the crown, you suspect it'd only take a light touch to slide it down over your eyes.

Did that mean anything special? Did you have a suitably dramatic action to take on demand now? Would donning the mask provide you an unexpected battle form?

...Well, at the very least you could see while wearing it, despite the band fully covering your eyes; 'See' being a generous term for the sort of awareness the apparition fed to you that superceded physical sight. If lily's presence gave you any other perk, it would just be having an apparition loyally on hand.

If anyone had thoughts on your new accessory on your route between the headquarters and the outskirts of town they weren't about to risk offending you to blurt it out. A perk of your position, with the invisible gulf persistently wedged between you and the lay-people of Carona finally affording you a tangible benefit for once. You could dress or accessorize however you pleased and no one would call you out on it.

"Did you fall asleep in a bush?"

You shot your flame-haired Testament a dirty look.
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"Don't give me that look, you stayed out all night and showed up with your hair full of twigs." One hand rested on her hip, inspecting you with more concern than the flippant tone of her dialogue suggested. "What's this about?"

"It's an apparition." You tapped a knuckle against the wood, "I named it Lily. She'll be on hand if anything happens."

"...Like that monster Ari's attached to." Rinnier murmured, casting a newly skeptical look over the mask. "It had to be a tiara?"

You make a face. "It's a mask."

"It is a tiara. I've worn them."

"Would you prefer it be a wooden replica of my face?" Your arms cross under the morning light.

Curiosity all but evaporated from Rinnier's expression, regarding it instead with suspicion, and some degree of mild unease. "No, keep your tiara."

"Mask." You insisted heatlessly, feeling the tension in your shoulders loosen as the barbless banter pulled you from your own mired thoughts. "Everything's in order?"

"Ready to leave. All the knights interested in proper combat training reported for the trip." The taller woman turned away, looking over the assembled knights with you as you stepped up beside her.

A complicated expression tinged the narrow line of her lips; Bits of emotion you'd gotten used to seeing not quite set aside while the two of you had a measure of privacy from the knights in question... And scanning the crowd, it didn't take you long to realize why.
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"She showed up late." Rinnier murmured as your crimson eyes picked out Miska's familiar figure in the crowd; Almost unrecognizable in the absence of her cheer. "Wouldn't have been surprised if she changed her mind."

A vague murmur rolled in your throat, more an acknowledgement than sentiment. You didn't know what you were supposed to say here... Or what you could say. Fen was... Someone you didn't know, really. Not like your Testament had, or, obviously, his fiance. Even still, the short time he'd been around you had taken to him, been impressed with his supportive capability. You got the feeling there was a chasm where he used to be that was going to make itself known sooner rather than later.

"Have you talked to her?" Memories of her departure from the medical tent yesterday only vaguely cropped up. You were too focused on Raid and what had happened afterwards to call out to her then, and now...

Rinnier shook her head. "There's nothing to say. I'd like to think we are on friendly terms, but she's ultimately a subordinate." And here, her voice hardened with a twitch of her throat and the subtle setting of her jaw. "We all knew the risk we were taking. Your knights, especially, always expected they'd be putting their lives on the line eventually."

The two of you watched her a little longer, until Miska's listless eyes rose to meet yours. There was nothing there at this distance; No resentment or fire. None of the enthusiasm you'd come to identify her with. Her eyes flickered back to the ground, chin sinking as she busied herself with adjusting her clothes amidst the more excited knights surrounding her, leaving the moment to pass.

"Give the word and we'll get moving. The sooner we leave, the better." Rinnier chimed in.

Having an actual road would make the trip easier on everyone, but it would still take you a few days to reach the Valen estate. The last time you made this trip, it'd been with Kara and her pack. Now with freshly blooded knights. The feeling that you'd be making this trip even more from now on left something heavy in your chest.

Your maid and childhood friend was absent, one of your Testament had disappeared into the night with her younger brother, and another you'd begun distancing yourself from out of fear of what Dryad's bestowed privilege would do to her.

Memories of your forest estate suddenly filled with voices and life after all those years alone with Asche never seemed the sort that would haunt you; Now the warm din of your assembled knights before you felt a world away.

You took a breath and did your best to clear your mind.

You are Irue Valen, blood heir to house Valen. Your aunt had summoned you, and you had every intent of answering and telling her what all you had accomplished since last you met.

>Bring Ari
>Leave Ari

>Anything before you set out?

>Would you prefer to skip the time traveling, or take the few days to do something specific?
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Previous Threads:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Valen+Quest

Where things are said: https://twitter.com/Riz_QM
Where things are asked: http://ask.fm/RizQM

Assorted Supplemental:
Irue Things (up to 74) - https://pastebin.com/PchcdWpw
A List of Forgotten Things (up to 74) - http://pastebin.com/kPEscJ3h
Irue's Memoirs (Scares the QM to update) - http://pastebin.com/sWnicrK7

Arc I - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DMjxLjSbvr-xcxqX9M_ysKaBV1zkUmu5/view?usp=sharing
Arc II - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cXL1fIYb22IqQ51wWUp3-IMZa2nV5TY8/view?usp=sharing

"Really I'd say anybody catching up should read threads instead of this because of what goes on in them, so this is more for looking back I'd say." - Ebook anon

Write-ups:
Kara's Day Out - http://pastebin.com/8ZbiSKLs
Adventures with Asche - http://pastebin.com/RNviCBJu
The Reclaimed Doll - http://pastebin.com/n6miP1qT
In Your Shadow - http://pastebin.com/EfeeHFAE
Friends Forever - http://pastebin.com/Yn0QaTVB
The Woman Beneath Steel - http://pastebin.com/pMGgiHC3
Paper Flowers - https://pastebin.com/Pk0W7rEm
Merciless Compass - https://pastebin.com/8Hy0krxv
Better Strangers - https://pastebin.com/mvShXpCt

Misc notes:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OVO8ZJ-IpI

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TarAKEt4uvucx-3y4A5d2T46FPF3dXs60an9-AMrJUA/edit?usp=sharing

Memo:
1. Work through dying before it causes issues with the Shade scar.
2. Return and investigate the Dryad Shrine
3. Bring Miska and the other "People skilled with arms, with a taste for conflict" with us to the main house.

Itinerary:
1. Discern knights with an affinity for Mana worth polishing.
2. Train the most combat apt knights.
3. Track down Asche, who left to find the descendant of the Ice Queen's bloodline.
4. Track down the Tier siblings, currently located in Resuri.
5. Expedition for resources to the north.
6. Unfinished business at the Ruined Shrine.
7. Respond to your aunt's summons.

Current Goal: Respond to your aunt's summons.
What's On Your Mind:
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ITS REAL!! I never gave up hope
>Bring Ari
>Set off immediately
>Wonder if the demihumans were more trouble than they were worth
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I can't post much because I actually got drafted since last thread. Other anons better pick up the slack
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>>4582238
oh you were that anon. I saw the thing in my ask! I hope your enlistment goes by quickly and without much danger, anon.

Is there much of a story behind you getting drafted, or is it one of those countries where military participation is mandatory at some point?
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>>4582240
We have limited conscription here and I just happened to win the lottery because I wasn't employed or a student at the time. I don't mind though.
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>>4582217
I hever stopped waiting.
Wanted to make a "Christmas come early" joke, but then it hit me
Now to read the whole wall of text!

I loved the picture in the twit. And the artstyle looked familiar. Is the artist perchance a certain QM here?
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>>4582245
Yeah! He doodles Irue occasionally. It's very impressive to see how far his art has come from the early days of Panzer Commander; Much cleaner, bolder with colors, more defined style. I think the improvement warrants more praise than he gets for it. Not the least of which because he is easily bullied by compliments.
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Very good pics, the artist is great
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>>4582222
>Leave Ari

>Anything before you set out?
Bring the aborted Jinn speaking stick thing, and the Bracelet in order to make / force the connection if we have to, since we're going to need it to guilt our cousin into turning around by hopefully giving him a live status update about his mother, and also catching him + guardian and whomever else is listening in up, on the Fae waking up.

Our aunt should be able to be saved by taking her into the forest in order to receive treatment from the Fae if possible, and if she is unable to be moved but still awake yet fading, the diary should be able to help make the distance
I had prepared a write up for this thread, rambling about a bunch of stuff, one of the big ideas was to Dam the bifurcation of the river to the south for a bunch of reasons totalling about seven or eight full posts,but it still needs work, and polish but won't be home to post it because of an unexpected emergency family thing till some point after new years.
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>>4582222
>Bring Ari
>Spend the travelling time getting insight into Ari's character
Her personality is troublesome and I'm afraid without explicit info on her mind's workings us anons will be unable to handle her well.
>But I'd prefer this to be done in a timeskip, again because us anons are bad at people.
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>>4582217
wait this is alive?
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>>4582218

>Your uninjured hand strayed to the mask clinging improbably to your head.
How is that injury coming along, by the way?
>And, to your mild consternation, meddling with your hair when you weren't paying attention.
If it gets to be too much of a nuisance, we can always tie it to a belt or sash or something. On hand, without being on hair.

>You could dress or accessorize however you pleased and no one would call you out on it.
>"Did you fall asleep in a bush?"
>You shot your flame-haired Testament a dirty look.
Missed you too, you firebrand.


>Leave Ari
We're leaving a rather light force to keep the town otherwise, especially as we're taking all the martially-minded. If she gives us grief, frame it as trusting her to help keep the town from devolving while we're gone. It's the truth, and should make her feel better.

>>Anything before you set out?
We're leaving a lot to do when we get back, but seeing as everything else is ready we should go ahead and set out. Maybe leave word with someone to pass word to Mim that we'll talk to her when we get back. Dunno if it'll help, but it won't hurt.

>>Would you prefer to skip the time traveling, or take the few days to do something specific?
I feel like taking the time to clean the rust off for us anons would be helpful, and trying to feel the knights we brought with us out might be worthwhile after recent events. Especially poor Miska. Maybe we can even attempt that being personable stuff.
Also, we should test what sliding Lily down fully does before we decide we need it, and this travel time seems like an excellent opportunity.

As we're in the process of working on it, I believe it's time to remove Memo number 3.

I'm incredibly happy to have you back this century. You've been missed.
I was afraid you'd finally make it to a year between threads.
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Kara cannot save Christmas anymore.
On top of everything else, it's going to be quite something telling Clara that we just lost one of our testaments, to say the least.
>>4582222
As much as Ari is suspect I have a feeling that leaving her by herself won't really address the issue. Even if we're bad at addressing issues it's probably better to try since...I'm pretty sure that we ourselves don't know if she has any other relations.
So,
>Bring Ari
>Set off immediately
Can't be everywhere at once and we can have faith in our Knight Captain, can't we?
Though I wonder if we are able to drag our local Shade adept out of his hole to help with this scar more.
I'd concur with >>4582283 on getting more into Ari's head from Irue's perspective but I don't think we can skip it. Being bad with people is only part of learning how to be adequate.
I also figure it's little trouble to bring the artifacts like in >>4582262

>>4582237
>Wonder if the demihumans were more trouble than they were worth
I don't know about them as a whole but technically the ones we really had the most attachment to anyways only counted up to one demihuman. Genetically at least, not counting that the blood takes over eventually. Supposedly. Not like Raid was ever known for telling nothing but the truth and the whole truth.

>>4582301
It would be very odd if it weren't.
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>>4582361
>spoiler
The entire miserable hunt that ended in the destruction of an entire arc's worth of work? That was his last attempt to "help" with the scar. It was "only" supposed to make us have an emotional breakdown in the middle of a fight.
He is firmly on the "do not call" list.
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>>4582222
>Bring Ari
>Name OakenRue
>Leave Oakenrue with orders to infiltrate and incapacitate/slowly consume/kill the behemoth without waking it up and above all to not die.

We need to address the nuclear bomb that's been ticking away for four years now? More?

>Do not timeskip
>Try to console Miska
>Try to engage with Ari
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Dont try to console miska
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why
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We will fuck it up
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>>4582444
Directly consoling will go poorly I think, but Rue is good at social manipulation stuff. If we can get a sense of her current state, then distract her or redirect her anger into something useful, we might have a chance of doing some good.
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>>4582446
Very possibly. I think it's worth trying at least, but I am happy to change my vote to spending time talking with her if it will stop you from voting against me. I just don't want to spend days on the road ignoring a woman in grief.
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>>4582262
>long write-up
I'm looking forward to seeing it! It's kind of amazing to me that people care enough to think about this when I'm curled up in a hole somewhere.

Threads last 3-4 weeks now, don't they? You may still be home in time. I hope the emergency isn't anything too terrible, though.

>>4582301
I have a standing promise to explain the overarching setting direction and endgame goals if I ever abandoned Valen for some reason, so the people who've stuck with it this long will have some form of closure.

>>4582351
>Injured hand
Injury is as it has ever been, but you still feel no pain from it. It's not numb, it just doesn't feel mangled; Still can't really use it, though.

>Testing Lily
Irue has done some testing offscreen as alluded to in the first few posts, but if you want to do so actively then that's fine. The general thing to understand is that Lily isn't a Relic, so she doesn't actually grant you any special abilities. She's just an apparition hugging your face. This allows her to do what she could normally do, whether by your command or her own initiative.

However, as an implicit extension to her being a mask, you have a semi-permanent connection open to her via the bracelet to communicate.
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I think everyone's voted, but I'll be closing the window later tonight regardless. Merry christmas everyone! I will be around off and on tonight to answer questions and the like.
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>>4582656
The point was more that some of the stuff that would be discussed in the write up would already be acted on or new information would come to light meaning that some things would need to be adjusted. Some of the stuff about the Damming plan was discussed in a /qtg/ at one point, a while ago.
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>>4582656
This is probably a question to ask in character but eh.
Is Rinnier calling it a tiara instead of a mask a good or bad thing with regards to fashion sense? It would be unacceptable to be shown up by our testament in regards to outfits, after all, even if she is (probably) of a (formerly) higher title than ours.

After all if she's calling it a tiara anyways it ought to at least be a good tiara.
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>>4582656
> but you still feel no pain from it. It's not numb, it just doesn't feel mangled;
We really need a non-shrine professional to take a look at it. Feeling nothing is generally restricted to the worst kinds of injuries.

>Testing Lily
Oh ok. I was working off this line:
>Did that mean anything special? Did you have a suitably dramatic action to take on demand now? Would donning the mask provide you an unexpected battle form?
It might still be worth testing our ability to direct Lily in a mock-hostile situation; Dryad's crew aren't always predictable, especially the younger ones.


>>4582802
>Is Rinnier calling it a tiara instead of a mask a good or bad thing with regards to fashion sense?
Well it's made of wood instead of precious metal, so I dunno if it fits into fashion senses at all. If we're lucky, it sidesteps "trendy" and dips into "exotic".
If we need to do something where fashion matters, we can always move it elsewhere.
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>>4582217
ON DECEMBER TWENTY FUCKING FOURTH?!?!?!?

Decent.

>>4582220
> Letting someone touch our hair.

Wut.

Anyways guessed I missed the vote. Oh well.
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>>4582844
window is open for a few hours more!

>>4582802
the mask is based primarily off of the Ds3 firekeeper's mask, which if pushed up to rest ontop of your head rather than in-place somewhat resembles a tiara. IE: the lower band covering your eyes with small, curving wooden spires jutting up from it's ridge like branches. When that lower band is resting on your forehead instead, you get the mask mistaken for an unusually proportioned tiara.

Lily could theoretically assume the form of whatever mask you would prefer given a request, but this was the default result of being asked to do so.

>Is it fashionable?
Lily is not fashionable and does not understand what fashion means. She can add flowers to it if you want.

Giving a strict answer on it though, it's not going to get you laughed at. It's a sudden and unexpected accessory change for Irue, but if anyone is going to get away with wearing a forest crown, it'll be someone in the Valen family.

It's not a crown though, it is a mask.

>>4582844
>Touching hair
Lily has gotten away with it so far.

>The grass rustled as Lily shifted, leaning forward onto its arms as it crawled across your personal space and past your lap - Wrapping its arms around your slender shoulders, holding you gently to its wooden bosom. Its hand ran along your hair in soothing strokes, mimicking your own greeting prior as it tucked you into its embrace.

To what extent this is taken is ultimately up to you. Asche remains the only one Irue has no leery thoughts about interacting with their hair - So you may treat this as begrudging tolerance, or fraying patience.
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>>4582860
Could Lilly encourage an algal bloom, or grow flowers with specific properties somewhat quickly(e.g. Poisonous, toxic, or sleep inducing pollen) It could prove very useful for dealing with Maran, or just people we don't like.
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>>4582885
Lily is not a bulbasaur, so you would need a seed or existing specimen of that flower for her to do anything with it.

That said, she can be influenced to permanently gain access to such things, just as all apparitions change as they mature. Ari's Aspiration is a prime example of that, seeing that it is a fleshen abomination.

so yes, with conditions or time, depending on your preference.
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>>4582887
Maybe the Apothecary, Healer, or Dryad fragment could help identify and /or source some seeds of interest for Lilly, then. For an Algal bloom all we should relay need is lots of sugar, Powdered iron or blood. Since most bodies of water already have the biosphere we would be abusing to cause a bloom event.
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>>4582237
>>4582283
>>4582361
>>4582436
Bring Ari

>>4582262
>>4582351
Leave Ari
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>>4582237
>>4582361
Leave immediately

>>4582262
Bring the Jinn radio!

>>4582351
Leave a message for Mim!

>>4582436
Name the Oakenrue and leave it behind to do things to the behemoth while you're gone!
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>>4582237
Were the demihumans more trouble than they were worth?

>>4582283
>>4582436
Talk to Ari on the way

>>4582351
>>4582436
Try to be personable and play with Lily!

Alright, closing the window here!
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Fun trivia, dullem said his hometown was by the coast? Is he from ephlesia hmmm
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"We'll be set soon. Have you seen Ari?" She'd no doubt expected you back last night, and your final decision to not return would have understandably left her irked. It was difficult to imagine the stringy haired girl actually holding a grudge, though.

Rinnier's brow arched, side-eyeing you dubiously. "I thought she'd be with you?"

...Not an inspiring answer, but you doubted anything could have happened to her overnight. Not with the Aspiration serving as her bodyguard the way it was. "I slept in a bush last night." The retort was offered with a deadpan, "And she wasn't at the headquarters when I stopped by this morning to pick this thing up."

You fished out the artificial Relic you'd appropriated from your most recent venture: A conceptually disgusting device that more resembled something between a newborn apparition having been aborted or lobotomized. It served a single purpose, as far as your limited knowledge of this thing went, it could only serve a single purpose. That was the only thing left in its mutilated existence. No doubt if the Shrine saw this, the Jinn Dominion would be livid.

Rinnier, thankfully, could not see it for what it was. She was well aware of its function however, and nodded briefly after glancing over it. "I'll get the knights ready to move out. It'll take a few minutes to get them organized, if you want to take a look around for Ari in the meantime."

You exchanged a nod and split off, but not before you got to watch the former princess start barking orders. It was a harsh change from the tones you knew, and it took you a moment to remember that she had stubbornly made herself part of the command chain in Teranford's royal line. Untrained as they were, the call to action put the disorderly knights into a small panic before they rushed to sort themselves out in some manner or other. If you had to guess, this wasn't the first time they'd been put through this in your absence.

...But you set that aside for the moment to try and think of where your erstwhile Testament may have gotten off to. it occured to you that this was something you'd never actually had to wonder before - She had either been with you, or been where you left her. Or, failing that, found you. She wasn't like Rinnier, who'd regularly make rounds to inspect the progress in Carona... So you had no idea where to start.

"Do you have any ideas?" You rolled your eyes skyward, murmuring the stray thought under your breath towards Lily.

...

Your brows knit, crimson eyes turning questioningly towards the forestline. Lily's cheerful, if vague, response was very certain about the direction, but... What she was trying to lead you towards was the nearest concentration of Dryad's mana. You guess if you found Ari's Aspiration, you'd find Ari, but it may well also just be pointing you right back to Dryad's Atelier.

You heaved a small sigh for the unexpected morning exercise and set off at a brisk pace.
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Getting to the treeline was the hard part, and you figured from there you'd just call it off if Lily seemed like she'd misunderstood you and actually tried pointing you all the way back to Dryad's Atelier... But as you wandered through the woods, the apparition merrily updated its headings every so often, leading you on a slightly winding path through the underbrush. You'd be lying if you said this didn't deepen your curiosity, because either Ari was out here for some inexplicable reason, or Lily was leading you to something you probably weren't going to like.

...And in the end, the answer was a little of both. A thick veil of flowering ivy blocked your way, strewn through the branches above like a ball of yarn. Several balls of yarn. Brushing it aside revealed your Testament admidst Lily's proud purring, sitting against a tree with her head lolled limply to one side. You took a step forward, only belatedly glancing at the conspicuously lush forest floor when you felt something give beneath you - A tendril of flesh, one of many which taken as a whole resembled a bed of roots, pulsed weakly underfoot. The whole of the clearing was filled with it, and that made your continued entry feel weirder than you would have liked; Every step carried the faintest of squishes.

But Ari was fine, near as you could tell. Sleeping peacefully, and well guarded if your presumption of the fleshen bed's source was accurate. A faint, nauseatingly sweet scent wafted faintly through the air, tingling a familiar thought you couldn't quite place. You'd smelled it this before, somewhere, and your investigation eventually led you to a set of bulbous plants hanging from the branches up above. Glossy leaves left an ill impression against the rest of the clearing's soft grass and ivy, with thick, circular ridges crowning each of the six-to-seven foot oblong forms. It left the impression of bloated lips gaping vacantly towards the heavily overgrown branches they suspended themselves from.

You decided you'd seen enough when you noticed a web of veins quivering just beneath the hanging plant's stiff outer skin.

>Am I forgetting something...?
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"C'mon Ari, time to wake up."

You knelt down, resting your hand on the stringy haired Testament's shoulder to rouse her. It only took a few moments for her eyes to flutter open - First groggily, and then with alarm as her body stiffened. The moment passed quickly, her brown eyes quickly darting from you to her surroundings and back before audibly letting her breath go.

"Master?" She sat up more attentively, rubbing the remnants of sleep from her eyes. The next few words came out in competition with a yawn she'd not quite stifled. "When'd you get here?"

"Few moments ago. What is 'here', exactly?" She'd not ask what you were doing, or even why you were here at all. Wasn't she even a little curious why you'd walked out into the woods like this?

"...Safe?" She murmured, equal parts answer and question. Her fingers spread through the lush verdant carpet, devoid of so much as a stick or stone, with obvious comfort. "It can't stretch in town."

'It' needed a name, you thought to yourself as the slight rustle of fleshen tendrils caused the grass to shiver under Ari's gentle care. You hadn't given much thought to it ever needing to stretch at all, but she had a fair point - Better it do so out here than somewhere it would attract attention.

"Did you need me, master?"

"Irue." You correct absentmindedly, making an effort to insist on fixing her terminology, if only in private. "We talked about this, didn't we? Call me Irue."

"Mm..." She yawned again, leaning into your hand with closed eyes. "Sorry."

"No, don't go back to sleep." You shook her gently again, rerousing the drowsy Testament. "We're leaving soon, Rinnier's already waiting for us."

Slightly more life bubbled up in her eyes as she raised her head and blinked owlishly. "Huh? Where are we going?"

"To see my aunt, I've been summoned. You're coming with me."

"Oh..." She yawned again, then blinked. "Oh. Oh!" Alarm quickly bled through her sleep-addled murmuring as she stumbled to get her feet under her. "I'm up! I'm ready to go! Come on, come on..." Her attention shifted off you with the latter entreaties, groping around the ankle high grass in a rush. "It's time to go, where are you...?"

"...You lost the Aspiration?"
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"No!" Her voice hitched quickly. "No, it's here I just laid it down somewhere so it could... There!" Whatever she'd seen was lost on you, but when her hands dove into the grassy carpet this time, they resurfaced with the familiar flesh-covered walking stick her guardian tended to favor. More accurately, you got the feeling it had unearthed itself from the soil for her. "There, I have it, we're ready now!"

Ari turned a disheveled smile towards you, hair mussed from sleep with dirt clinging to her hands. You started to say something, but the others were already waiting on you - And there'd be plenty of time to talk on the way.

Although, while you were thinking about it...

"Have you considered giving it a name?" You nodded towards the fleshen rod she used to support herself as she wandered alongside you.

"...Can I?" She turned the question back to you, pausing in her hobbling pace to inspect the Aspiration in her hands. "Shouldn't you do it?"

>It is your responsibility, being the oldest 'child'. You'll name it (what?)
>You'd rejected it almost since it was born, and Ari clearly cared for it. She should be the one to do it.

...And since Ari is coming with you, that only leaves Dullem and a fair portion of your knights left to defend Carona if something happens. You're not fond of leaving it here unattended, but if you left it with a specific task to occupy it, maybe it could solve some problems for you? And hopefully not create new ones in the process.

>It goes with Ari.
>Leave it to deal with the sleeping Behemoth.
>Do something else with it? (What?)
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>>4582237
LAWL
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>name it Rook
>Leave it to deal with the sleeping behemoth
No time for archive binging. I can suggest reading when we found it in Dryad's Atelier
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>>4583001
>Am I forgetting something...?
The strange space full of appropriated life makes me think of Nymph's Wood from back in the Atelier with Eleanore- a tree blessed by Dryad, either naturally or by an adept. Of course, the one we saw wasn't interspersed with (still living or reanimated) flesh, but the Dryad then was a far different Dryad to today. Either Ari's waking up further to adeptness, or the presence of Woody Fleshbeast affects a "blessing" around it because of its development, I'd say.

>>4583005
>Name
Woody Fleshbeast.
No.
I'm not certain on which to pick really. It depends on whether we want Ari to still see us as one thing or another. Encouraging independence or accepting the place of supeiority. Somehow I get the feeling that encouraging free thought from this ragamuffin might not be a good thing when they have this sort of power and, potentially, singlemindedness and sociopathy.

>What to do with Mourning Wood
>It goes with Ari.
I could go with doing something more specific with it but the one thing that I can't see ending well is letting it roam without supervision.
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>>4583001
>Forgetting
Wait, is it a Faedka tree? We knew Faedka was apparition blood, but do they also grow the bottles? Also if the tree isn't Ari's Aspiration, then WTF is it? Has Dryad spread its influence already?

>Propose naming the Aspiration Rose, for the complete package.
>Give Ari the final word though.
>Take it along
I don't want it to mess with the Behemoth while we aren't there to fix things when something inevitably goes pear-shaped.
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>>4583005
>>It is your responsibility, being the oldest 'child'. You'll name it (what?)
Aegis
We asked it to protect Ari and it has never failed to try its best, even when she wandered into a fucking atelier so I think this fits. I like Rose too though.

>>Leave it to deal with the sleeping Behemoth.
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>>4583005
>Am I forgetting something...?
That'll be something in the now pointless arc about discovering and relaxing Dryad, but Christmas isn't the best time for an archive dive.

>It is your responsibility, being the oldest 'child'. You'll name it (what?)
To be honest, I've always been fond of Oaken/AspenRue, but that's not something Rue herself would suggest. Something inconspicuous might be a good idea. I'm really tempted to say Jim. Maybe just 'Asp'?

>Leave it to deal with the sleeping Behemoth.
This is as good of an idea as anything, and it leaves AspenRue free to be used in town defense if needed. This does mean it will need to be put under Dullem's control.

I wonder how long it will be before Lily gets a taste of our blood?
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Christmas is a rather terrible time for a Forgetting in retrospect, yes. Feel free to come back to this one through-out the thread, we can count it as remembered as long as an answer floats around before the end of the thread.
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>>4583261
Merry christmas Riz! I hope you got your stocking stuffed!
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>>4583354
That is lewd, anon.
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>>4583005
>Leave it to deal with the sleeping Behemoth.

> Name it Aegis
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I see we've hit a new low. Hope you can beat it next time.
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>>4583443
Niiiiice!
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>>4583001
>Am I forgetting something...?
As far as I remember everything related to Dryad had sweet scent, Oakenbears, Faedka etc.
Are plants Nymph's Wood?
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>>4583443
Nice pic
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>>4583001
So far my asrchive trawl revealed that Riz really likes the words "ascent", "descent" and "luminescent", and also talking about "stubbornly long hair"

The sweet scent firmly connects this tree with Dryad. The 6-7 foot oblong bulbous plants make me think about something being born out of them. Maybe this is how oakenbears are made? Is this the site of one of the multiple mass graves that have appeared around Carona because of us?
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>>4583530
>Riz really likes the words...
You can't just call me out like that, anon!

Anyway, I'm closing the window here and will get to writing. May not get it out before the skyfire rises, but I figure everyone is relaxing over the holidays anyway. Vote tally coming up shortly!

I hope everyone had a wonderful christmas, all circumstances withstanding. This year has been hard on everyone, so it's great that everyone seems to be doing well near the end of it.

>>4583443
Thank. I can't get over the spiral wood knots passing for its cheeks! ...And it occurs to me now that there's never been much of a push to put the oakenrues in real clothing.
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>>4583534
>And it occurs to me now that there's never been much of a push to put the oakenrues in real clothing.
How... detailed is she?
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>>4583536
It technically comes with clothes, given that it copied Irue's initial outfit as part of its body. There's nothing really preventing you from putting different clothes over its clothed wooden body though.
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>>4583009 (Rook)
>>4583030 (Rose)
>>4583033 (Aegis)
>>4583060 (Asp)
>>4583374 (Aegis)
Name it yourself!

This was pretty one-sided. One of you voted to give her the final word, but once you suggest something she won't disagree with you.
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>>4583009
>>4583033
>>4583060
>>4583374
Leave it to try and eat the sleeping behemoth!

>>4583011
>>4583030
It stays with Ari.

I didn't actually expect this to get the support it did given its past reception, but it's passed a second vote. Congratulations that one anon, your christmas wish came true!
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Anything is better than just leaving it. Also fun fact we took that trophy off the big lizard we killed but I dont think it was ever used
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If anything controllable comes out of the fusion attempt, it might be worth having it be planted at the site of the old Temple in order to repurpose the area as a nursery / as an attempt to cultivate a second / unbound Dryad fragment, hopefully outside containment.
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>>4583534
Have a wonderful Christmas yourself! This was a shitty year, but I think something good will happen.
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>>4583557
>I didn't actually expect this to get the support it did given its past reception

Neither did I! Maybe all the anons who opposed me died of old age. Welcome back by the way, I missed you!

What would Ari have called it?
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>>4583557
Wait.

It's actually gonna try to fuse with the Behemoth?

Oh happy day, honestly reasonable and cautious plans haven't been working out for us. Time to crazy.
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>>4583557
>I didn't actually expect this to get the support it did given its past reception
It was pitched as trying to kill it, not that silly fuse thing, thus my support.
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>>4583671
That was my intention. I still don't understand the whole fuse it with an apparition core idea that's been floating around for a while now, I just want our oakenrue to somehow stealthily kill it before it wakes up. I'd rather it didn't consume the whole thing to be honest, that sounds like a recipe for unforeseen consequences. The way I imagined it was slowly and carefully infiltrating/eating away at its brain matter or some other vital area like a cancer.
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>>4583695
I think the fuse thing is partially that the remains would be "free", and we sort of lack a heavy hitter at the moment. and that the selected presence used for the operation could see a boost and so could be useful when attempting form a foothold for Dryad elsewhere.

Assuming of course that the goal is to free Dryad, and hope that we can at very least focus their Wrath on those most deserving.
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>>4584118
Uh

We're leaving Aegis of the Flesh Fetish behind unsupervised beside what is basically an Treant sized flesh suit.

We oughta warn Rinnier in like, a note or something.
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>>4584168
But isn't Rinner coming with us, though?
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Being asked whether naming it wasn't your responsibility forced a pause. You weren't really sure what your relation to the fleshen Aspiration was at this point. You had no idea what to make of it for most of its early life, and far more on your mind besides; At the best of times it had been a useful tool to leverage, and at the worst a distant consideration. At this point it had spent the majority of its life assigned to Ari as her guardian, and while it had gone to frankly admirable lengths to keep her safe, you're not entirely sure where that left your own relationship. At the very least it still seemed to like you.

If you thought of Lily as a child then the flesh-bound Aspiration would have to be its elder sibling - And if you were going to take responsibility for it now, then you'd readily admit that your parenting had been... questionable.

"How about Aegis, then?" You turned the question over to Ari for approval, resigning yourself a split-second later to the realization that she wouldn't object to anything you suggested.

The stringy haired Testament tilted her head to one side curiously. "Aegis?" She repeated it back, visibly rolling the word around on her tongue.

"It's spent most of its life protecting you." Was it wrong to characterize it by its job? Was giving it this name saddling it with the expectation it would keep protecting things? "I don't want to keep dancing around what to call it, at any rate. If it's fine with it, then I think it's fitting."

The two of you shared a look, before Ari considered the walking stick in her hands. A few moments passed, and the silence continued.

"Well?"

"I don't know." She shrugged at you apologetically. "Aegis didn't react?"

...It wasn't a rejection, at least. Maybe it was too late for giving it a name to matter to it? Aspirations were the matured form of Apparitions, you could... Maybe... Liken it to already being an adult? Teenager? Human life cycles did not map well to the Mana - You'd be better off not thinking too hard about this. At least Ari seemed fine with the name; She'd adjusted faster to using the Aspiration's name than yours.

Your attention drifted back to the clearing with some small sense of disappointment. The awkward churn to your stomach at the lack of enthusiasm was something you were going to chalk up to the occasional whiff you got of that sickeningly sweet scent. It scratched at something in the back of your mind, like it was something you definitely should have recognized. This whole place was a little familiar, now that you stopped to look at it... Had you been here before?
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Wait, no, you do recognize this smell. It was fainter here, thinner - That was what threw you off. This place smelled like an Oakenbear. More specifically, it wasn't the Oakenbear itself that caused the smell, but the rotting carcasses carried within it's maw whose stench seeped out. This whole clearing smelled like Dryad's unique rot.

A frown tugged at your lips, turning your attention more critically back to the verdant overgrowth. There had been plenty of deaths following your subjugation of Carona's rebellion, and you knew for a fact Oakenbears had been an issue that Marchovic entreated your permission to deal with... With Dryad roused again, they were a danger now more than over. Was this place... Some kind of spawning ground for them? "Ari... Did you make this place, or find it?"

"Aegis made it." She turned to face you. "Is something wrong?"

Aegis... Probably wasn't manufacturing Oakenbears? "There are corpses here, aren't there?"

"..."

"Ari?" You glanced back with a wrinkle to your nose, catching the reluctant, flat press of her lips before her eyes slipped away awkwardly. "Has Aegis just been eating corpses this whole time?"

"...Should it not have?" Her answer, indirect as it was, left you at a loss. Even if there'd been a glut of them available recently, that didn't mean you wanted that to continue. "It's fine, isn't it...?" A second, more timid inquiry slipped out of her. "We need to clean them up so Oakenbears don't come out, right?"

"Yes, but..." You ran a palm over your face to stifle a groan. "There's burial rites for that. Something to at least give their relatives some peace." And you have no idea how much Aegis had actually eaten at this point. The eating itself wasn't really an issue, given that it did prevent the spawning of Oakenbears, but... "It can stop, right?"

Ari pointedly examined the ground between her feet.

"Ari?"

"I think so?" She offered half-heartedly.

She thinks so? You were standing on a mass grave right now that no one else knew existed. "Ari, you've been sleeping here knowing it was a graveyard?"

"Should I not have?" Her head raised again, this time looking up at you with earnest curiosity. "It's safe here, and the grass is soft and warm."

The grass here was really soft.

...Wait, no, you can't just agree with that. "It doesn't bother you at all?"

Still, she shook her head. More determinedly this time. "You came back here, so it's special."

"I what?" The clearing had felt slightly familiar, but you doubted you could have recognized it in its current state. "When?"

"After the mines collapsed!" Ari started animatedly, "We thought we'd lost you, but when you made it out, you came out here, and it's where we met again and made plans to go save Rinny."
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She stared up at you excitedly, waiting for the memory to click... And you searched for it. That was... When your Doppleganger had escaped, wasn't it? Somewhere, buried in that black-box of memories it had left you. Or maybe it was after? You couldn't say she was wrong, but the memories lacked clarity. The line between your experience and your Doppleganger's had started to blur recently, and that trip into the woods to deal with the mercenaries certainly hadn't helped with that.

...Maybe the distinction between you returning, and your Doppleganger, wasn't that important. Not here, at least.

You scanned the area, trying to place the greater landmarks of it in your mind to something you'd recognize. A single step back, then several more as your feet found their own pace, circling with a near aimless gait until- Something felt right. Your neck craned back, and the sight of the hanging oblong plants struck a chord. Right... You remember now, there had been some mercenaries caught when you returned. Strung up from the trees by Aegis. You'd interrogated them information and then... Then...

...Left?

That can't be right, what happened to the mercenaries you interrogated out here? Had Aegis eaten them, too?

"Ari, what's inside of those things?" You felt like you were going to regret asking, but you gestured towards them regardless - One of which lowered a few seconds later with the rustling of its loosened vines. The closer to the ground it came, the thicker that stomach-retching sweetness became.

Ari didn't seem to share this repulsion, stepping up to place her hand along its side gently. "This is where it eats." She offered an explanation in what she visibly thought to be a helpful manner. "...I don't really know what gets left inside, though. It just kind of picks them up and dumps them inside?" She pointed further above her head to the plump, enflammed ridge of the plant - Its vacuous, gaping lips. "We can look if you want?"

As if to punctuate that offer, the lips quivered and seemed to widen invitingly - Assailing you with a smog so thick you could taste it in the back of your throat.

"No, that's... Fine." You retreat a step, covering your mouth to fend off the scent. Ari patted the plant, hollow on the inside you now realized, a grotesque pitcher, and it slowly rose back into the branches alongside the others.

Not an Oakenbear, but a stomach all the same. Multiple stomaches. Tracing the vines from the branches, you got the feeling they encircled the trunks of the trees... Your knowledge of agriculture was sketchy, but for once it occured to you that you couldn't be sure where the flourishing of this clearing divided between Dryad's own mana, and the influx of corpses it was apparently eating corpses for.

Mana bless... What would Elly have thought of this? Was this normal?
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...Then again, if Aegis actually was adept at eating flesh and bone like that, maybe that opened a different possibility. One that stood to solve a problem both Rinnier and you had been struggling to resolve for months now. "Ari, can Aegis eat living things? Is there a limit to the size - Or... Appetite? Does it get full?"

"Um..." She blinked rapidly, the disarray in her mind almost visible through her confused eyes as she tried to sort through the unexpected volley of questions. When she did answer it was a slow process, some invisible exchange having taken place between them that she was trying to translate back to you. "...Squirrels and birds fall in occasionally, so I think it doesn't mind if it's alive or not? And it doesn't understand what 'full' means. It doesn't eat because it's hungry?"

...A bit of a detour, but- "Why does it eat, exactly?"
Lily, do you eat like this?

Some vague answer trickled down from the sweet child perched over your forehead, giving you the shared experience with Ari of trying to put to words an exchange of sentiment.

Yes? No? Maybe? She can? Probably?
She... Wants to? Is curious? If you want?

Somewhere in there were your answers, and probably more than one at the same time. You're not sure if Dryad's echoing voice was better or worse to try and casually decrypt.

"Sorry Master, I don't-" She caught herself, starting over. "-Irue, sorry. I don't understand, I'm sorry." She shrunk in on herself a little disappointedly. "It's complicated."

Alright. "Does it have to eat with those things?" You gestured back to the hanging pitchers. "Can it eat without surrounding something?"

"...Yes." Ari nodded after a moment's consultation. She peered back up at you, attempting to brush some hair from her eyes only for it to fall right back into place. "Do you want to feed people to Aegis?"

...You were certainly going to try and feed it something. You reached out to take Ari's hand with a new sense of urgency. "Come on, if we hurry we can get this started before Rinnier starts fussing at me for leaving late."

Some squeak of a response came out of her, but she gripped onto your hand quickly and tried her best to keep pace behind you.
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The decision to leave Aegis here unsupervised wasn't one you made lightly, but if any of piece of Dryad had earned the benefit of the doubt, it was the flesh-bound Aspiration... Whose flesh now added a somewhat unsettling implication to its existence, given the diet it had quietly adopted at some point. It had devotedly defended Ari since you'd asked it, so you'd trust that it would do the same now.

The Behemoth was just as you'd last seen it. Sleeping peacefully beneath the old Tier estate. As obscenely overwhelming in presence as it had ever been - An engine of near unbridled destruction just waiting to wake up and rampage. There were stiff hairs protruding from its wall-like muscled form that were longer than you or Ari were tall... This thing in all was nearly the size of the Shrine itself, counting the stairs leading up.

One of these was responsible for your family's death.

It put in stark relief the idea that Kara had been the one to brawl the thing into drugged submission once before, even if only temporarily.

This was one of Wisp's blessed creatures, like your aunt's Nightmare Stompy was one of Shade's. Its raw vitality was enough that it wasn't unheard of for one to have died at some point in its rampage only for the body to continue raging - Nevermind the sheer grievousness of wounding it would take to bring a Behemoth to death's door in the first place. Rinnier had already briefed you on the lengths she'd gone to locate the apothecary who had put together the drug that kept this one slumbering, and what she learned of its steadily building resistance to the drug's effect mirrored your own suspicions of the veritable bulwark of Wisp mana residing within.

It was sleeping now, but it wouldn't stay sleeping. It was a catastrophe ticking down that you'd had no solid recourse for other than hoping Kara would be able to handle it, or.. Maybe finding the Tier sisters and gambling that they had made some progress trying to tame the thing. Now, Kara was gone, and the Tiers were no closer to being found than they'd been before.

And so, you stressed to Ari to convey to Aegis the importance of its task. To kill this thing, whose brute strength continued beyond death, without waking it. It absolutely must not be woken up - Especially not while You and Rinnier were absent.

If this thing died asleep, it wouldn't matter how long it took for the body to follow.

It was a gamble, but if it paid off...

Ari, for her part, just looked on in awe at the thing. It was her first time seeing it... But, evidently not her first time sensing it. Its mass of life had evidently been hard to miss during her attempts to nurture Dryad's affinity.

...After that, it was just a matter of leaving a message with Dullem to warn him about your ongoing plans, to pass on your promise to meet Mim as soon as possible, and you were ready to go!
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You'll be on the road for a few days traveling to the Valen estate! Plenty of time to pursue some projects you've been otherwise too busy to handle. Or, you could spend your time mingling. Once the group was well under way and the pace had been set, moving about the procession was your privilege.

Rinnier had opted to use the excursion as an excuse to practice formations, or something similar; War and the command of soldiers was something Caylen studied, so you only had a basic grasp of its principles. Nothing compared to the former princess' apparent experience. She'd insisted you stick near her, at least during the beginning, so as to establish a given pace and not distract the knights overmuch.

Ari had taken to sticking between the two of you. She kept to herself during your conversations with Rinnier, her eyes wandering freely along the procession of knights - and further out to the gently rolling hills and adjacent treeline. She'd not shown any sign of faltering yet, which was a little heartwarming considering how she'd barely been able to walk when you'd first met.

...And if Kara had been with you, this would have felt like a proud showing of how far you'd come.

Instead, you felt a keen sense of empty space where the Testament should have been, and Asche beyond that. Nagging reminders that you couldn't quite stop thinking about, which would slip innocuously back into your mind no matter how often you distracted yourself. Not melancholy or depression, but... Absence. An emptiness that scratched at you.

>Talk to Rinnier.
>Spend some dedicated time with Ari.
>Wander amongst the knights.
>Seek out Miska specifically.
>Other? (write-in)
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>>4583530
This was the post that qualified for the Forgetting. many of you connected the scent to Dryad, but it's the association with Oakenbears specifically that hit the mark.

>>4584202
Also I forgot to post this on the relevant section.
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>influx of corpses it was apparently eating corpses for.
Fertilizer. Goddammit.
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>>4584205
>Other? (write-in)
Bond further with Lily.
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>>4584205
>Wander amongst the knights.
>Seek out Miska specifically.

Let's learn from losing Kara. We need to have a persistent presence and get to know people better.
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>>4584205
>Wander amongst the knights.
>Seek out Miska specifically.

>>4584210
I'm a bit confused. So the corpse-eating tree was also Aegis? A separate, immobile part of her?
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>>4584460
You can think of it as an offshoot, absolutely!

Some additional context, as Irue is well versed in Mana: Aegis, as noted some time prior, isn't an Apparition any longer. It's grown beyond its initial core, and now exists as an Aspiration. What does this mean? Well, for one, an Apparition is constrained to a single body by necessity, because its "body" is its core, and everything around the core is simply what it is manifesting/animating.

As an Aspiration, the Mana become capable of existing in theoretically as many bodies as they please. This varies from Aspiration to Aspiration, as they tend to just follow their own desires. The more they amass influence in a given area, the more pervasive and all encompassing that proliferation may become - The Mistral is the Ur example of this, as it is suspected by several Jinn Adepts to be the entirety of the perpetually raging storm which covers the snowy northern wastes.

That clearing is Aegis every bit as much as the fleshen abomination that guards Ari is. If one is destroyed, the other persists... And in time, may recover its dispersed influence.
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>>4584511
We succeed in planting the seeds for Dryad's eventual escape of their captivity even if we don't do anything else towards that goal.

Anything else we do now will only speed their return.
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>>4584506
In what ways would a Mistral tier Aspiration differ from a fragment of Mana, like the Dryad fragment in the forest Atelier?

And would introducing the newly minted Aegis, to the ruined Shrine influence the process at all?
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>>4584511
I guess, Faedka may also be made and composed the same stuff as Onions Green or something.
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>>4584593
>In what ways would a Mistral tier Aspiration differ from a fragment of Mana
Aspirations have limits. That limit may be theoretically very vast, but they are ultimately individuals tapping the abundance of a given mana to empower themselves. A fragment of a Mana is fundamentally different, in that it has no such limit other than, perhaps, the expanse of its own awareness.

An Aspiration may be fought. It may be dispersed, and even absorbed by another Aspiration entirely. It can die. Fragments of the Mana embody a sliver of their consciousness, and are therefor impossible to actually resist short of banishing all of their respective mana from the area and suffering the ensuing consequences - And it is important to understand that doing so is only a method to resist. The Fragment would not die, it just wouldn't be able to reach you. It will remember you, and at any time it is entirely possible for an existing Apparition or Aspiration to have their ego dissolved so that the Fragment could assume direct control of both the body, and all relevant mana in the area. You've seen this happen!

And no, the possessed apparition/aspiration does not come back once the Fragment leaves. Its ego is dissolved, it is for all intents and purposes dead for good - And its essence is released back into the world as ambient mana.

>spoilers
I'm not really sure what process you're referring to, but you'd never know until you tried! All experiences will influence an Apparition/Aspiration, just as they would anyone else. If you do something traumatic or insulting to one, they'll react. If you build a good relationship, they'll reciprocate. Some have a naturally stand-offish personality, others not so much... This is why Adepts are capable of conversing with Apparitions and Aspirations, but they don't guarantee cooperation or beneficial results. They provide communication where others would have no channel to talk at all.

Your bracelet, notably, also provides communication.
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>>4584633
Ok, so by assuming that there is likely some level of increased presence of mana surrounding the Ruined Shrine regardless of its current dormancy, introducing Aegis to the Shrine and allowing it to 'put down it's roots' in the area would hasten it growth, because of increased level the ambient mana and it's resulting ease of gathering, and to some degree assimilation.

I have no clue on how to actually free the trapped fragment other than making it angry enough to get it to do so itself, somehow. or to go about looking for answers other than maybe poking at the river / bridging (or damming it) a little bit and seeing what response we get.
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>>4584654
Do we even want to free it?
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>>4584658
It's only a matter of time, now after Dryad has been roused so it would be best to take advantage of our unique situation in order to limit the coming tide of death, as best we can to only people, locations, and organisations that we don't actually like to a limited degree.
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>Talk to Rinnier.
Irue Valen what crimes against humanity will Irue commit today
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>>4584201
>"Ari, you've been sleeping here knowing it was a graveyard?"
>Ari didn't seem to share this repulsion, stepping up to place her hand along its side gently. "This is where it eats."
>"We can look if you want?"
Christ, Ari is creepy.

>To kill this thing, whose brute strength continued beyond death, without waking it. It absolutely must not be woken up - Especially not while You and Rinnier were absent.
Here's hoping this will finally put a pin in this very long ticking time bomb. We're going to haver to throw a party or something when the Behemoth finally dies.


>>4584205
>Wander amongst the knights.
We don't spend enough time with the knights. despite them being nominally ours, Rinnier knows the lot of them better than us by a considerable margin.
Maybe after a while, we can try to get a better sense of how Miska is doing.

>>4584506
>That clearing is Aegis every bit as much as the fleshen abomination that guards Ari is.
So Aspenrue is now in part a horrible flesh-dissolving mass grave now? Dang it Ari, this is a bad thing.
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>>4584792
I mean. Look at Ari's past, death is no stranger to her.
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We shouldn't get too close to the knights. Have to maintain some distance.
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>>4584833
How did that work out with Kara and her pack?
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>>4584654
This is a solid theory, yes. Giving an Apparition or Aspiration an environment rich in their respective ambient mana will absolutely help nurture their growth.
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Closing window soon! Another hour or two, maybe.
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>>4584205
>Briefly tell Ari that she is sufficiently attuned to Dryad and ask her not to become attuned any further as it may be dangerous, we can go over the details later
>Wander amongst the knights.
>Seek out Miska specifically.
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>>4584235
Bond with Lily!

>>4584257
>>4584460
>>4584792
>>4585227
Wander around the knights!

>>4584257
>>4584460
>>4585227
Miska is someone we know that's in a bad state.

>>4584791
Chatting with Rinnier is a reliable way to spend your time lately.

>>4585227
Remind Ari you asked her not to work on attuning any further.

That was an hour, right? Writing!
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Try as you might, thoughts of the demihumans still clung to you. Some you'd come to expect, like if you could have done something better; Reviewing the circumstances, trying to realize when and where you'd gone wrong that could have avoided it. Others, more frustrating. Wondering if they'd all just been more trouble than they worth in the first place. The creeping consideration that you honestly might just be better off not having to deal with them anymore. What good had they ever done you, anyway?

...But entertaining that thought forced you to reconcile the damage it had done to Kara with any measure of satisfaction. Was it worth the cost?

You weren't fond of finding your place between remorse over what happened to Kara, and relief over what had happened to her pack. More pressing to you, or at least more palatable to consider, was what could have changed it. To that end, it was watching Rinnier's interaction with your knights that led you to the conclusion that you were an outsider. You'd chosen to remain an outsider, often for good reason - Tasks which demanded your personal attention that you couldn't entrust to others - But the natural consequence of delegating so thoroughly to those more capable of handling things in your stead was that... You were an outsider.

It was that distance which had left you ignorant of the demihuman's state, and even now left you unsure whether they had earnestly been victims of one man's grudge, or collaborators in his schemes. It was the distance which you had chosen to keep, inadvertently leaving Kara to drown when you thought you were helping; At least if Raid's side was to be believed. You still weren't sure how much of what he said was true and how much was just meant to hurt.

Having returned from Dryad's Atelier, something you'd taken for granted until now was just how... Integrated Rinnier was with Dullem and the knights. Unlike Kara, she had polished her leadership her entire life, and the results were frankly impressive. They moved to her orders without complaint or hesitation, and in turn it felt like she just had some figurative finger to their pulse. You, on the other hand, could only become more aware just how separate you remained from anyone beyond your own Testament.

...And that was something you couldn't just accept.
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These were your people, and the gulf between you and them had only ever seemed to widen. This wasn't the first time you'd stumbled across this problem, Dullem had worked up the courage to talk to you about precisely this: The disconnect. The way your knights just... Couldn't understand you. Struggled to find a purpose to devote themselves to in your character. The way they'd taken to jokingly pledging their loyalty to their feyliege.

If you were going to lead them, you couldn't afford not to learn from what lost you Kara.

And hadn't Rinnier warned you? She could handle the logistics of your responsibility, but she couldn't nurture loyalty in your stead. If you were going to be someone your knights could devote themselves to and find purpose in, you had to kindle that yourself.

Something approaching resolve settled in the back of your mind. "I'll be back later." You announced, earning a fleetingly inquisitive glance from the former princess. A shrug was offered in turn, with a simple explanation as you broke off. "I want to get to know my knights better now that I'm not so busy."

"I'll co-"

Ari's voice had barely squeaked out her wish to join you before Rinnier had set a hand on her shoulder and held her in place. "No, you'll stay here." The taller Testament corrected plainly. Rinnier met your eyes and nodded after you, wordlessly accepting - approving? - of your decision. A flicker of a smile danced across her lips, but she'd already turned back to Ari before it could play out.

"I'll be back." You assure the two of them easily, "Just going to take a walk around for now."

...It was an explanation Ari was none too happy about, and she looked up at Rinnier sulkily. "Why can't I?"

"You can't just stay attached at the hip all the time. Give Irue some space."

"But... Rinny..." Ari clutched onto her shirt awkwardly, a nervous habit she'd quietly indulged in with her hands suddenly bereft of Aegis for the first time in months.

"Space." Rinnier repeated firmly. "And we need to have a conversation about your behavior."

Her arm slipped around Ari's shoulders, barring her path after you and tossing a wave in your direction as the younger girl begrudgingly seemed to settle in for a conversation she didn't want to have.

You took that as a good enough opportunity as any to start making your rounds.
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Breaking away almost immediately left you brushing idly through the loose ranks of your escorting knights, most of whom acknowledged you with varying shades of enthusiasm and formality... Or lack there-of. None so irreverent as Miska, but the reactions certainly varied. The first and most pressing concern was just...

"Is something happening?"

...There. One of them had bridged the gap to actually ask. They were acting as your escort, so far as Rinnier had explained to you. Not seriously, this was little more than practice - Some general drill to keep them occupied and used to working as an organized group on outings. It was a decision you had no real objection to, but... When the person they were supposed to be maintaining a formation around started wandering around, that left a lot of them wondering how to adjust. Should they adjust? Was this part of the drill?

"Don't mind me, I'm on a walk. No need to adjust on my account."

It was an explanation you were going to be offering a lot, and after the second time you'd just started preempting the question with it.

Hey, nice to meet you, I'm your lord. I don't know most of your names, but I'd like to get to know you better.

-You were tempted to actually start conversations like that, but the question of how you wanted to do this squirmed around stubbornly. You'd initially hoped to just eavesdrop and pick up the mood as you went, but as an entirely new and novel experience, everyone in this crowd both knew who you were and cared!

Which meant you wouldn't be slipping through them as unnoticed as you had gotten accustomed to lately. Setting aside that your first reaction to not being dismissed as a nobody for once was mild exasperation, the decision of how you were going to do this was unexpectedly taken out of your hands entirely.

"Hey Ser Valen! What happened to that fang you took?"

The question caught you wholely flat-footed, turning owlishly towards the inquirer. You didn't recognize him... No, you did? You did. The higher cheekbones, the half-shaved stubble, he'd been at your side when you fought the giant snake in-


That was you.
That wasn't you?
You think it was you...

No, it couldn't have been, your Doppleganger had been the one to earn their respect. It had found its purpose in your knights.


You blinked once, the haze of memory clearing. Little pieces of the black box sorting themselves back into your consciousness and trying to find the right place; Some bits of the puzzle melding comfortably among your own, while others were too important to mistake.
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It took you a moment to remember what he was talking about.

...What had happened to that thing? Was it still back at your house? Caylen's?

"If it didn't get lost somewhere, it's either at my house or Caylen's." You finally hazard an answer to the knight. "...Can't remember if it was retrieved from his estate to mine after the Rite."

"Hey, do you remember what happened to it? Did any of the others bring it?" He lightly rapped an adjacent knight on the arm.

"Uuh... Nah, Can't remember. Wasn't me, 'least. You think some of those other soldiers did something with it?"

"What, that came with that monster woman-" It was a little too late for him to be slapped to stop that slip of the tongue, but his jaw snapped shut almost immediately upon realizing what he'd said. Some awkward coughing covered the misstep, the man finally salvaging himself to continue. "I dunno what went on with them. If anyone knows, it'd probably be where we're going now ain't it?"

...You hadn't considered that your aunt may have appropriated it, but you can't imagine that she'd even know it existed, much less where it was in the first place. If no one brought it with you, it was probably still back in Caylen's estate.

"So hey, supposing we find the thing," a younger knight began conspiratorially, "You got any plans for it? Can't be that many fangs of a snake that size floatin' around. Might be worth something?"

"Ser Valen doesn't need more money." The stubble-laden knight chided the other with a confidence that belied how incredibly wrong he was. "Nobles hang stuff like that from walls and fireplaces, right? It's a trophy, not a sack of potatoes."

"Our little feyliege is always disappearing somewhere on their own though," a feminine voice teased from several paces off, throwing her opinion into the ring from somewhere safely obscured from your direct attention. "May as well make it a knife so an Oakenbear won't eat 'em!"

"Oi, you weren't even there! The fang was huge, what kinda monster knife do you think that'd make?!"

You couldn't imagine wielding something like that as a knife. A greatsword, maybe? A lance? It was massive. You doubted you could even carry the damn thing on your own, much less look respectable doing it. Maybe it could be used for raw materials and trimmed down to something manageable.

"Well it wouldn't be for spreading butter like the ones you swing about, now would it?!"

>Leave them to it and wander on. You have more of your knights to see and hear.
>Suggest your thoughts on what you might do with it. (What?)
>Ask about Miska.
>Other? (write-in)
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>>4585664
>Leave them to it and wander on. You have more of your knights to see and hear.
Lily might be able to help source / create / cultivate materiel for whatever we decide to do with it.


>Suggest your thoughts on what you might do with it. (What?) We need to use it to stab Maran when we next see her, for stealing our cousin when we needed him most.
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>>4585664
>Suggest your thoughts on what you might do with it
Hang it above our throne (or whatever substitutes for it) to display authority.
>Ask about Miska.
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>>4585663
>You were tempted to actually start conversations like that
I know you're not good at normal socializing, but please don't.

>What, that came with that monster woman
It's a touch depressing that I'm not quite sure who that's referencing.
I wonder if we should try and gently introduce our new headwear so they don't panic next time we need to use it. They know about Aspenrue's stick form, so it's not unsubstantiated.

>snake fang
This entire conversation is great. It's good to see the knights in high spirits, even if it's coming at some light friendly ribbing.
Considering the importance of that hunt to ShadowRue and the knights, we should do something with it to show it meant something to us. Maybe a jewelry piece? Maybe a headband?
Regardless of size, we won't be able to wield it as a weapon. If it's smaller than they're suggesting, we might be able to use it as a utility knife.


>>4585679
>Hang it above our throne (or whatever substitutes for it)
So half a random chair dragged from the rubble somewhere?
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>>4585686
They are probably referring to Kara,

It would probably see better use as an ornate letter opener, or something like that. Solely so whatever stops us from using weapons can't be confused and so we can't be temped to use it to hurt someone, other than Maran.
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>>4585692
I think they're referring to Clara or Alouette
>You think some of those other soldiers did something with it?
>What, that came with that monster woman
Kara has no soldiers
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>>4585664
>>Suggest your thoughts on what you might do with it. (What?)

I like the weapon idea, maybe we can have it carved into many knives to be awarded to those who distinguish themselves? Failing that maybe a big sword for Dullem.

>Ask their names
>Gently tease the soldier who called Alouette a monster
>Ask about Miska.
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>>4585719
>>Ask their names
Names are good, but we should see if we can pick them up in conversation or tease the names out without flat asking. I don't think they'd take offense per se, but it might cool the conversation down a little if we effectively ask "and who are you again?".
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>Leave them to it and wander on.
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>>4585664
>>4585686
I didn't actually label it as a vote, but the stuff under
>snake fang
counts as
>Suggest your thoughts on what you might do with it. (What?)
I'd generally prefer to keep it mostly intact, but if we can't come up with anything better, carving it into something unrecognizable as a fang would be ok.
I wonder how it would go if we gave it to Lily and told her to hold onto it. Mostly it'd make us look like a unicorn
Maybe it could be fashioned into a spearhead, or even an entire spear? It was primarily brought down with spears, if memory serves.
A sword might also work.
A walking stick of our own could serve.
One of those horns used for alerts and such?
If we carve into it, the leftover bits could be turned into tokens, dice, or used for general dressing up of the knights' gear.
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>>4585882
Just remember we can't use weapons at all.
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Just make it a keepsake for the future, why not
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>>4585889
I know. I figure if we go the weapon route, we'll pass it off to Dullem or someone that knows how to use the weapon in question.
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>>4585664
>Suggest your thoughts on what you might do with it. (What?)

Carve badges out of it. Either we have enough for all our Knights, or we have some for the officers and we save the rest for future promotions.
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>>4585664
Also

> Gently tease the Knight who called Alouette a monster

If she really was a monster, she'd be working for us already or dead. We tame or kill all the monsters. She's just a very, very scary human and if it comes down to it we'd rather fight another snake.
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>>4585882
If you insist on a weapon, Aegis could probably wield it.

Hey, what's on our list of stuff to do?
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>>4586150
I've no particular attachment to making it into a weapon, I'm just a little lacking in non-weapon ideas for the thing. It's not dissimilar from an elephant tusk. You have to get creative to make good use of it.
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>>4586170
I mean.

We could also always sell it. We do need money for other things.

Maybe we can discuss it with our Aunt.
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I had a vote tally typed up and then firefox crashed and i don't want to rewrite it.

Summary:
1. I need a tie breaker on pursuing Miska next or wandering to a new group of knights
2. I'm going to be busy with something today, so I'll get the update out after it's handled.

and finally, in the meantime:
>>4586150
>What's on our to-do list?

Memo:
1. Work through dying before it causes issues with the Shade scar.
2. Return and investigate the Dryad Shrine
3.

Itinerary:
1. Discern knights with an affinity for Mana worth polishing.
2. Train the most combat apt knights.( Currently In Progress )
3. Track down Asche, who left to find the descendant of the Ice Queen's bloodline.
4. Track down the Tier siblings, currently located in Resuri.
5. Expedition for resources to the north.
6. Unfinished business at the Ruined Shrine.
7. Respond to your aunt's summons. ( Currently In Progress )

Current Goal: Respond to your aunt's summons.
What's On Your Mind:

There has also been some murmuring about getting a netter grasp on Ari, but it's not been formally added to anything. Of course, you're all free to modify this list as you please!
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>>4586649
Can we add to the Memo's
Remember to attempt to get a line of credit running for the support / rebuilding of Carona from our Uncle while we're there. we also need to get the rundown on what they are doing about Artemis, since they somehow managed to materialised significant in their backyard, it could probably be delegated to Rinner while were talking to Caylen and / about our Aunt.
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>>4586649
> 1. Discern knights with an affinity for Mana worth polishing.

Seems like an apt time to let them know we'll be arranging this is the near future. Maybe we can stop by the Shrine on the way out and get them on board.
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>>4586653
Aunt was regent of House Valen before the Testament, and somehow maintained that position after we came of age. When she finally kicks the bucket presumably while we're there, we should be be actual Head of House for real, and not need to worry about begging for money.
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>>4586900
Bruh we can't even handle Corona, I'm rethinking taking over House Valen right away.

See, we might have more money, but I have a sneaking suspicion it'll come with waaaaay bigger budget problems.
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>>4587089
>Bruh we can't even handle Corona
We haven't been able to properly deal with the town, ultimately, because of a lack of resources. The inability to repair things? The morale issues? The insufficient policing ability? All resource related.
It's not helped by us never staying in town to actually manage it ourselves, but those little excursions are usually made in an attempt to put out some fire or another.
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>>4587089
>but I have a sneaking suspicion it'll come with waaaaay bigger budget problems.
This is likely, but we won't know until we are in a position to actually see the balance books. And it doesn't actually change anything.
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>>4587102
Having our Aunt, with decades of experience and contacts and political acumen, continue to take care of the rest of House Valen while we focus on not getting the world destroyed by Dryad changes a lot of things.

There's a difference between building up a loyal core of retainers in a small town so we can transition to leading House Valen with some backing and experience and suddenly trying to deal with politics and plots on a whole 'nother level.

Look how many mistakes we made in Corona while learning. We wildly dropped the ball several times with the Behemoth, and the Demi-Humans.

Not to mention waking up Dryad and putting the world on a countdown timer. By dying. Dead. You know, normally GAME OVER.

Maybe we gotta take some time to grow.
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>>4587102
I will also point out that I tried several times to get people to send a message to our Aunt to let her know the situation is more than it seemed and that we need more support because of it, that there's limits to making Corona suffer just to test us, but that got blocked repeatedly because of people's raging hate boner for her.
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>>4587111
Aunt is on death's door, and her continuing to rule while sticking us in a wrecked backwater town with no support is not how you teach someone to rule a duchy. You start with a milk run, then slowly increase the workload until they're operating unsupported. Dropping them off the deep end is a bad strategy for something as complicated as governing.
If she wanted to show us the ropes, she should have included "how to rule" in our lessons growing up, but more recently she should have had us shadow her for a while, or at least had us assist her in the running of things for a time.
She pretty clearly didn't want to give up the regency, had designs on making her line the primary line, and wanted us out of her hair.

We screwed up with the demihumans, I'll grant, but they were something of an edge case. Humanoids with no empathy whatsoever and nothing special otherwise sit in an odd area politically, socially, and ethically. Kara being our first encounter with them really screwed up our perceptions of demihumans as a whole.
We've done nothing wrong with the Behemoth. We lack the expertise to use it as intended, and lacked the ideas, tools, or personnel to end it without massive risk to people and property. Plus the Behemoth thing isn't related to leadership anyway.

Have we learned anything being in charge of this hellhole? We've been absent more than present running from one emergency to another, and as such have almost entirely left the actual governing to subordinates.
I guess "learning to delegate" counts, so that's something.

>>4587117
One of the first things we did after being put in charge of this mess was to ask her for assistance of any type. Her response clearly stated that we were on our own, and that no amount of begging was going to change that.
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>>4587189
>One of the first things we did after being put in charge of this mess was to ask her for assistance of any type. Her response clearly stated that we were on our own, and that no amount of begging was going to change that.
You should probably go find where that happened.
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>>4587189
Someone clearly hasn't read all of the threads.

It's you.

Otherwise you would know that Cotona was supposed to be a milk run, that it's also the back-up plan to keep us out of an imminent civil war slash foreign invasion slash weird mana cult shit that previously got Irue (and her Aunts) family brutally murdered.

Also that we had quite a bit of reconciliation happen the last couple of times we talked with our Aunt.

Things have changed, but you're still acting like this is Act 1 Irue and Aunty.
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>>4587189
Does our Aunt even know about Behemoth?

Because I'm pretty sure she doesn't.

If you had really learned to delegate, you would be able to see that having our Aunt handle the rest of the Valen stuff for us is easily far and away the best choice.

Especially since, I'll remind you once again, nobody else can handle Dryad who we woke up by trying to 1v1 a bandit camp and a whisp adept.

Maybe we could have not died if we had been willing to summon an apparition but nooooo, everyone is scared it takes chunks of our soul. Like. They grow back.
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4585677
>>4585848
1. Next group of knights!

>>4585679
>>4585719
2. Gotta find Miska
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>>4585679
>>4585686
Trophy!

>>4585719
>>4586145
Marks of prestige!
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>>4585719
>>4586148
Teasing!

>>4585719
>>4585735
Figure out names!

No tiebreaker forthcoming on meandering through more knights or focusing on Miska, and so now the dice must decide our fate.
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You know who we're forgetting about? The Paladin. He should be reaching Carona any moment now. Who knows what he'll do once there? I don't.
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>>4587860
It's possible he'll have seen the literal fireworks that went off during the raids and rerouted or diverted elsewhere.
That's just speculation though.
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>>4587860
He would be a known quantity to the members of the Shrine in Carona, and I don't think that they would be trying to cause any trouble at all, if only so they don't draw further attention to themselves.
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>abandoning our birthright after going through all that shit
Nuh uh
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>>4588236
Sunk cost fallacy.

Also, it's not abandoning it, it's turning weapons of war into gifts of silk and jade.

Quite frankly, we need all the help we can get. Even with our Aunt helping us, we're still opposing at least 4 major factions. Artemis, the Royal Family, the shrine faction led by Luna, and Dryad. All of them have goals that contradict ours, to various degrees, and all of them have significantly more power than us to the point that a direct confrontation simply isn't possible.

Leaving our Aunt in charge of handling House Valen as a whole while we deal with Dryad and Artemis, for now at least, means she can continue to keep things running and at least the Royals and other nobility off our backs.

We definitely have to touch base and rework our collaboration with her, though. Shit has spiralled way, waaaay out of control. She doesn't have time for us to slowly learn how to rule anymore, and we don't have time to slowly transition power from her. The world is fucking ending, yo, our birthright ain't much if the damn place stops existing.

On the plus side, we can straight up confront her and tell her to cut the cryptic mentor bullshit, we're in a much stronger position since Dryad awoke and we're their absolute most favourite.
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>>4588572
Would your preference be to use the diary, get Dryad to heal her, or leave her injured / dying if we needed to choose a path of action?
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>>4588572
Using the word "fallacy" doesn't mean it actually is one.

There's no way Irue would give up everything she's been working towards. She's been looking forward to taking this position for a very long time now.
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>>4588589
And so putting things off for a little bit longer and coming to a proper understanding with our Aunt and Uncle as to what is going on and what they want to happen, so we are much less likely to get in each others way, and get the support we need and plans into place before things start actually getting worse.

personally i think that the best way forward would be to support Dryad's bid for freedom, and work to focus her hate on Artemis / Luna, and once they are gone / heavily diminished sue for peace with the rest of the Mana, and support the retention of the current crown, instead of allowing them to be replaced with Artemis 'plants'.
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>>4588598
>coming to a proper understanding with our Aunt and Uncle as to what is going on and what they want to happen,
I seriously doubt that'll happen based on previous experience. But hey, maybe being on death's door will loosen her lips.

>spoiler
I think you might have Forgotten why such lengths were gone to to imprison Dryad in the first place. It is ireperiably infected with an incredibly virulent disease of unclear symptoms and infection vector. The same disease that infects Artemis, and is the reason they do what they do.
If we want to save the world, we need to work towards eradication and containment of Artemis and any other infected, which is the Shrine's goal. Unfortunately, our association with Dryad will mark us as "likely infected" if Luna looks too hard.
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>>4588605
We still don't know anything about the infection, and everyone we have asked won't / can't tell us what the symptoms are, and so we are really just going to have to deal with it if / when it comes up. I'm pretty sure that there is nothing against Luna and those affiliated with it from lying or bending the truth to suit themselves, for all we know this was a pretext to remove Dryad in order to remove a check / balance on Luna's position / reach for whatever reason that this at least consistent on the surface.
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>>4588622
>spoiler
I'd assume God of knowledge, information, learning, and such would have a problem with lying and the bending of truth.
This is the sort of thing Rue would know one way of another.
>spoiler 2
Considering how Luna and Dryad's relationship was described prior to the imprisonment, I don't think this entire mess would have been fabricated for a power boost. Especially seeing as how the rest of the Shrine assisted, and that Luna hasn't taken advantage of not having a counterpart. Luna is not treated any differently than the rest of the Shrine in any way that we've seen, and this is the sort of thing Rue would be aware of.
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>>4588631
But what if it was in the pursuit of knowledge, or information that was later found to be incorrect, does Luna and those aligned with it have a duty to correct information that they have disseminated, prior to them finding a new argument or proof that invalidates the previous line of thinking?

The assistance of the shrine would have to be on false pretences, or at least a deliberate lack of accurate information relating to the situation since it would be done in such a way to ensure that they wouldn't be infected, because otherwise it would defeat the point of removing Dryad.
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>>4588631
>God of knowledge, information, learning, and such would have a problem with lying and the bending of truth.
Mana don't lie, because they don't really understand why anyone would.
Their Adepts have no law or strict dogma against doing so, and this is part of why the Luna Dominion is kept under such scrutiny by the rest of the Shrine. They are simultaneously in the best position to handle delicate information and to manipulate that information.

This somewhat answers your second thing about Luna being treated any differently. Though, whether this came about as a result of Dryad's expungement and a vigilance towards Luna's own well-being, or is just always how it was due to the danger of manipulated information having been ever present, is anyone's guess. One of the downsides to Dryad being all but removed from history is that as far as the records go, the Shrine just was just always set up with this sort of balance.

>>4588648
>does Luna and those aligned with it have a duty to correct information that they have disseminated
No. Many do, just because they enjoy the pursuit of truth and the advancement of knowledge in general, or will correct you because they are insufferable about such things, but they can just as readily choose to not comment or let a mistruth run wild. Point-in-case: They allow a false history to be taught which excludes Dryad's existence.

Also hello, I am still writing. Fell asleep last night and the conversation has been taken in unexpected directions. Working to wrangle it back into place.
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>>4588659
>Mana don't lie, because they don't really understand why anyone would.
Ok, good, something we can actually trust.
Dryad's imprisonment was orchestrated by the Mana, not their followers, no? Which means the imprisonment wasn't some far-fetched power play, and by extension the virus isn't a hoax.

Well that was an.. interesting sideroad we took, but now we're right back where we started.
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>>4588694
Or at very least, it has some symptom that might be somewhat detrimental to some unknown degree, and Luna at least doesn't want anything to do with it at all. Since the Valen bloodline is the designated keeper of Dryad, we might have a special dispensation so we can keep Dryad asleep, so we probably won't have to face Artemis kill teams until after it becomes obvious that we have failed the task we have been charged with.
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"That 'monster' is Alouette." You regrasp their attention, even having been careful to speak softly. The last thing you wanted was to intimidate them accidentally and encourage them to keep their guard up around you.

The knight was quick to sober when you picked up on his tongue slip, swiftly uttering out an apology... Which you let him do, keeping a carefully attentive gaze locked on him as he strung his words together clumsily. First an apology for speaking ill of her, a promise that he'd never meant to disrespect her, because... Because...

Your head tilted to one side, the rest of the knights leaving the poor man to his fate, and you realized with some morbid amusement that he didn't actually know anything about Alouette. Not her role in the family, or how she was related to the Valens at all. Stunningly, it appeared he was having this same realization in tandem with you, which was making his attempt to apologize significantly more difficult.

Leaving him on the spot like this any longer would be mean. "Did you see her hat?"

"..I'm sorry?"

"Her hat." You point towards Lily for emphasis. "It's cool, right?" This was, as far as you were concerned, foolproof common ground. Alouette's hat was very cool, anyone who met her even once would realize and agree.

"Yes...?"

You nodded, a small smile tugging at your lips.

"Your hat's pretty cool too, Ser Valen." One of the tongue-tied knight's friends added, evidently sensing the danger to have been over.

"This is a mask."

"...Oh."

You held the awkward gaze of the knight who'd tried to compliment you for a scant few moments before shaking your head with a sigh. "When I was younger, Alouette looked after me a lot. I always thought her hat was really cool, and sometimes she'd let me wear it. She's very particular about it, so I have fond memories of that."

"That is what passes for a nanny in your family?" One man blurted out incredulously.

The edge of your lip twitched, unsure whether to smirk at the thought or frown over the misunderstanding. "Not nanny, no. She's captain of the guard, serving under my aunt, the acting steward of House Valen." You take a breath, rolling your eyes consideringly towards the sky. "That's her official title, anyway. She's always been more a friend of the family than a retainer, exactly."

"...Guard?" One cut in skeptically. "She's not a knight?"

"You're the only knights in the family's employ currently." You acknowledge with a confident nod.

"Knights outrank guards, don't they?" He whispered aside, visibly trying to reconstruct this information to not disturb him. "...We outrank someone like that?"
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"..." Here your arms cross, lips thinning to a line as you look him over. "It's not that simple, no. You have a more prestigious title, but there's no chain of authority between you. Technically speaking, Alouette doesn't need to answer to anyone but the one she's serving, which would be my aunt. Even once I inherit House Valen properly, Alouette remains loyal to my aunt first and foremost."

This was getting off topic, though the unexpected lecture certainly had your knight's attention while you walked. Where a certain easy going cheer had been, it had been thoroughly replaced by a curious sort of attentiveness. You suppose they'd always been a little uncertain of where, exactly, their place was in the world after becoming your knights. Still... You didn't come here to lecture them.

"In conclusion, Alouette isn't a monster. House Valen tames monsters, and the ones we can't, we slay. She's human, like the rest of you." You clear your throat pointedly, allowing the sentiment to hang in the air before continuing with an affected air of dignity. "...But if it comes down to it, I'd rather hunt another snake than get scolded by her."

You waited proudly for the punchline to your teasing to take effect and rake in the reward of mirth.

"...Really?"

"'Really' what?" You blink.

"Are the Valen family monster slayers?"
"Wait, does that make us monster slayers now?"

You watch the murmurs spread, not quite sure how to explain it was a joke without ruining the strange mood. Fortunately, or unfortunately, that same woman from earlier interjected to ruin it for you.

"Biggest monster you've ever slain was butter across a loaf of bread!"
"Hey, fuck you! I killed a giant snake!"
"You sure our little feyliege didn't kill it for you?"
"You weren't even there...!"

You lowered your voice and stepped away from the now loudly arguing pair as they bickered across roughly a carriage length's of space. "...Is this normal for them?"

"Nah. We've got a little betting pool going on whether they'll- uh..." The knight stops, trailing off as he remembered distinctly who he was talking to... And you waited for him to finish, to no effect.

"Whether they'll what?"

"Ah, forget I said anything, Ser Valen. Please. Please forget I said anything, just this once?"

You cast a skeptical frown his way and let the matter be. "We're not really a monster slaying family. We do have a retainer family of beast tamers who specialize in taming all sorts of things though. They've been... Indisposed lately."

"The Tiers, right?" You looked up with mild surprise, catching a poorly concealed bit of satisfaction in their face having gotten it. "Ah, it's not that hard to find out. We spent a lot of time around their old places back in Carona; Heard about them from the locals. What happened there?"
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"Rebellion. Or sabotage." Depending on whether you laid the blame at the feet of Carona or Artemis, really. "As far as I've gathered, they were captured during a night raid and taken elsewhere."

"...Damn." The knight scratched at his neck. "The whole family? Is someone looking into that? Can't imagine a noble would let that slide."

You shot the man a bemused look. "That someone is me. Putting down the rebellion in Carona and weeding out Artemis was the first step, getting them back comes next. The last information we had on them puts our investigation starting in Resuri." Assuming Asche's discovery was true. You didn't know where or how she'd learned that, but you'd also never had any reason to doubt her... Yet, the longer you took to follow up on that, the more likely circumstances would change.

"Resuri? That's pretty far... South?" The knight hazarded a guess. "Not totally familiar with this area yet. What are they doing that far down?"

"My best guess is slave trade." Which was a complicated topic, given the taboo nature of it in the face of the Crown. "As for how they got there, part of the weeding process was eliminating the mercenaries that had set up camp in the woods outside Carona who were lending their support to the old mayor's resistance efforts. Seems they had regular contact with people in Resuri by using the river to take things up and down stream."

"Out in the woods, huh... Ah, that's the thing Dullem was asking about a while back, yeah, I remember that. Old man Gehr joined on for it." His fingers snapped with the recollection. "You took out a camp of mercenaries with just that old codger?"

...No, you took them out by leading them into the claws of a murderous force of nature. "I had more help than that."

Whether or not he noticed the reluctance in your demurral, the knight just laughed. "Ha, right, figured as much. Some of the guys were betting you'd just done it all yourself by summoning another one of those giant tree monsters, but I mean, it's not like you have an infinite supply of those things on hand, right? They've gotta be pretty rare, and hard to tame at that."

"..." You loosed a very small sigh, becoming vaguely aware - with some consternation - that Lily's ivy was coiling through your hair again. You opted to change the subject entirely. "I don't think we ever introduced ourselves?"

"Don't imagine any of us need an introduction to know who you are, Ser Valen."

"...No, but I need one to know who you are." You retorted plainly.

"Eh?"

"It's a little disconcerting to talk with people without something to call them." You explain after a beat, "I know Dullem well enough, Gehr, of course. A handful of others..." Who, you... Could not place at the moment. "I'm trying to make an effort to get to know my knights."
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"Huh..." A lack of words carried a grunt from the knight's mouth. "That's a tall order, Ser Valen. Can't say any of us know everyone all that well. We're a ragtag bunch, all told, most of us didn't think we'd be staying together like this when we gathered up."

Given you were already forgetting the names of knights you know you'd talked to, you had to agree... Still. "If the names don't stick, hopefully the faces will. So, humour me?"

"Vahn." He stuck a thumb to his chest, "You already met Herik," here he gestured to the second of the three knights you'd fallen in with, "The one being yelled at back there is Eim, and you've already heard Kiri. You can hear her across town."

"Can you?" You don't remember hearing her across Carona, but you'd also not spent much time there.

Vahn, however, just shrugged. "I've heard her across every town I've ever been to with her. Imagine you'll get sick of it 'fore this trip's over." Your knights seemed to be well aware of the motley assortment they'd wound up becoming before ending up on your cousin's doorstep. It was... Interesting, in a way, but you couldn't put your finger exactly on why. "The four of us came from the same town. Our families are still back there, mind... My dad'd smoke like a pipe if he found out I ended up a knight. Might need to talk to one of those Jinn guys and get a message sent sometime."

"He wouldn't approve of you being a knight...?" Your brows knit together curiously. "Why?"

"Ah, well..." Vahn hemmed reluctantly. "You're not the best kinda person to talk to about that, Ser Valen... No offense."

"...Why not?"

"He means cuz you're a noble." Herik piped up with a gruff sort of disregard for the way Vahn flinched. "The lot of us left because our town was being wrung dry in taxes each year by the territory's lord. Caught wind of a plan to take our grievances up with the Valens to try and set people straight, n'the rest y'know already."

"...Yeah, that's the gist." Vahn confirmed with a sigh. "My dad's got a grudge against lord L'Cata for what's happened, can't imagine it'd go over well finding out his son up and left to be some other noble's knight."

"And Eim's here because he's here." Herik snorted, "Town clowns to the end."

"Hey." Vahn snapped, "Screw you."

"Hope the next thing Ser Valen throws us at eats you."

You listened to the spiteful epithets hurl back and forth with an air of everyday casuality you weren't used to. It was initially offputting, but... In a strange way, it almost felt nostalgic. You took their distraction as an opportunity to wander on though, slipping off unnoticed to check in with the rest of your knights.
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The day lingered on, hours of walking passing as the sun meandered higher overhead. It was still cool even at the height of the day, owing to the later seasons starting to edge their way around and the good fortune to have a decent breeze today. Though, given the Jinn Dominion's efforts to keep the weather comfortable after the destruction left by Mistral's Child, that breeze could hardly be considered a stroke of luck so much as the results of hardwork and guilty penance.

It was cheerier to consider it good luck though, and the origin of it was something you doubted any of your knights were aware of. In all likelihood Rinnier and you were the only two to recognize it, neither of you were in a hurry to disabuse the good mood of the knights as you traveled.

In the meantime, thoughts about what you actually were going to do with that snake fang floated about in the back of your mind. You'd honestly forgotten you even had it after everything that'd happened, and that left you suspicious of what else you might have picked up at some point and still had laying around that you never made use of. There had to be other things, right?

If it was worth something then selling it might be an option, but that hunt was an important event - Not just for you, but your knights as well. You'd not realized it was something that they still talked about all these months later... But thinking back, a lot of the knights you had personally worked with since would start off mentioning how they'd been there with you. Your Doppleganger had done more than secure knights and stew ingredients with that hunt, it'd wrested hope clean out of the serpent's maw for these people, and that hope bred loyalty - A gift it had passed to you, whose value you weren't properly recognizing until now.

So, no, selling it wasn't an option. A trophy then, maybe? To keep around as a memento of the hunt and what it meant?

...Maybe. But you weren't in a position to have some grand hall or special office you wanted to decorate, and given your grudge against Artemis, you doubted that would be happening anytime soon either. Something more practical then? Still with some kind of meaning attached to it... Like ceremonial daggers, maybe. Something you could use as a reward for accomplishments or prestigious positions.

It'd be a while before you scrounged the thing up, so you had time to think on it.
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"Hey, Feyliege!" Your thoughts were interrupted as you walked, crimson eyes turning to the knight that'd called you out so readily. There'd been plenty who had talked to you if you wandered along, but being called out to was something you'd only really expected from Miska... And this wasn't her at all. The knight waited till he was sure he had your attention, waving his arm helpfully to draw it over to him. "Where're we going?"

"The Valen estate." They should have been informed already. It wasn't like Rinnier to skip a detail like that. "Why?"

"No, I mean we all reported to learn how to fight like knights, yeah? Why are we going there?"

"..." Your head tilted to one side as muddled questions tried to pry out where he was going with this. "Because I have business there, and you need someone capable of training you. Who did you think would be teaching you?"

"Miss Lamandra." He returned bluntly, an entirely unspoken 'duh' hanging in the air.

"...I'm sure she could, but that'd take up far more of her time than either of us would like." You allowed, wondering just how much of a hand the former princess had taken in drilling them prior. "There are very skilled combatants at the head estate who will be instructing you in building your basic foundation."

Your martial knowledge was incredibly limited, that having been Caylen's pursuit of passion for much of his life. What little you knew was constructed from having watched Alouette train her own regiment and listened to her and your cousin's sparring critique. If you were very lucky, some of Alouette's subordinates might still be around the estate to pass that teaching on - Which would be the next best thing to the woman herself helping bring your knights up to par.

And honestly, how long could it take to get good at this fighting thing? Caylen sucked at it, but you just stuck the pointy end in the other guy, the process wasn't complicated. Maybe a couple month's work and they'd be good to go.

"I can assure you, they'll be every bit as competent a teacher as Lamandra is."

"Are they hot?"

"...I'm sorry?"
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"C'mon Feyliege, what are we expecting here? Some old guy? A strict woman in uniform?"

Oh. Oh! Alright. "The guards at the estate do have a uniform yes, and whoever you get will probably be strict to some degree." You relax a little, getting a grasp on what he was asking for. "I can't really say who it will be though, and I wouldn't be surprised if you were split into smaller groups and received different instructors during your time there."

"Alright, yeah, that'll work! You'll put in a good word for me, right feyliege?"

You cast a warm smile back at the man and gave him a thumbs up. "If you're that confident, I don't mind. What's your name?"

"Barret! Bee-Aye-Arr-Arr-Ee-Tee. You're the best, feyliege!"

...Alright! You made a mental note that Barret wanted the strictest training he could get. Maybe there were others like that? You'd have to ask if it was possible to make a specific group that was trained more harshly than the others... Special tactics and survival, maybe? The Valen family had plenty of rangers in its employ.

This was a really good idea, actually. "Is there anyone else interested in that?" You glanced around. "I can set up something special for you if there's a decent group for it. We've got plenty of people like that who'll take good care of you."

The offer hung in the air, a look of disbelief passing between the group of knights. Some of them looked appauled, others... Disbelief? But willingness was starting to crawl out of it - Which was to be expected, you didn't imagine many people would volunteer for something like this.

"Ser Valen, are you really going to just throw girls at them?" A question of sheer disbelief emerged from a younger girl, stepping forward with the visible nodding support of the peers she'd been moving with.

"If they're free and both sides want to, I don't see why it hurts to ask." You offered honestly. "There's plenty of women and men both who'd be capable of stepping in."

Looks of disbelief spread between them, but when you'd expected them to leave it at that, their ranks broke. "So... If I asked for a younger guy? Maybe a blonde?"

"Carla!" There was a hiss of surprise from the first girl, "I can't believe you!"

"Look, if it's there...!" The now named Carla defended herself sheepishly, holding her hands up peaceably.

"...Don't really know why that matters, but I can ask?" Asking for a blonde specifically was weird, but if it motivated them... By the time you'd walked away, you had a handful of names to pass along later for ranger training. That'd be incredibly useful if they actually took to it; Maybe you'd been underestimating your knights' enthusiasm?
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Your rounds took you further afield, and slowly but surely you were making your way all the way around your knight's escort perimeter. You'd collect names here and there, and not even half way through the day you feel like you had forgotten half of them already. The faces may stay familiar, but Vahn had been right about this being a rough task... And this wasn't even all of your knights.

Speaking of familiar faces though, one met your eyes as you passed. They didn't greet you, and if anything the sudden notice was little more than a fluke of having both looked one way at the same time, but you did - You recognized that one! You raised a hand to wave at him, receiving a reluctant one in turn; A simple acknowledgement that he'd seen you, at least.

"Is everything going alright?" This had been the one you met the day after the operation, who'd given you a preliminary report on what had happened at the town square. You hadn't expected to see him again this soon.

"Uh... Nothing to report?" He returned bashfully. "Didn't expect to er... See you back here, Ser Valen."

"I'm taking a walk." You pause, the back of your mind helpfully supplying that all of you were taking a walk. Belatedly, you staple a qualifier onto the first explanation. "...To check on all of you."

"Ah. Well." He shrugged, "Here we are."

And the conversation stopped there.

You didn't actually remember his name, but he'd been shy like this then, too. You could probably drag conversation out of him though, and the small group of knights around him were doing their level best to only eavesdrop professionally to your sudden addition.

>Ask him about something (what?)
>Address the surrounding knights instead. Had they been in the square that night, too?
>You'd be better off letting him have his space. No need to force yourself on everyone.
>Other? (write-in)

Optional
>His name was... (What?)
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>>4588838
>Other? (write-in)
Show him that we got our wrist fixed, mostly.

>His name was... (What?)
his name is Zane, Thread #77 post >>4112064
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>>4588826
>"Your hat's pretty cool too, Ser Valen."
>"This is a mask."
Rue, you're either going to have to ask Lily to look more mask-like, more hat-like, or accept that your mask looks like a hat.

>"Are they hot?"
Asking the important questions, I see.
>You'd have to ask if it was possible to make a specific group that was trained more harshly than the others...
What goes around, comes around.

>Belatedly, you staple a qualifier onto the first explanation. "...To check on all of you."
Rue's pretty good at rapid foot extraction, considering.

>>4588838
Tact isn't something we're great at, but I feel like asking about the square risks pressing on a sore subject. It was messy, and we never came back.

>Other? (write-in)
I dunno how good of an idea this is, but I'd like to show our knights Lily to some limited extent, so they don't panic at the wrong time if we need to use it.

>>4588850
wrist is unfortunately still not fixed according to >>4582656
>Injury is as it has ever been, but you still feel no pain from it. It's not numb, it just doesn't feel mangled; Still can't really use it, though.

Good work on the name.
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>>4588836
Oh come on Irue. Haven't you ever NOT READ a romace novel?

>>4588838
>Ask him about something, but out of the earshot of others
How is he holding up?
He was pretty discouraged and doubtful the last time we've talked with him, but here he is having volunteered for training.
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>You'd be better off letting him have his space. No need to force yourself on everyone.

Anyway didn't read, the Valen throne is ours and we gonna take it
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>>4588838

>>4588910
>>4588933
Seconding these two.
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So, uh, anyone else still in 2020?
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>>4590127
What do you mean, anon? It is January 1st, 2020. Of course we're still here.

I'll be closing the window to tally votes in a bit.
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>>4588850
Show off our wrist! It got bandaged, but it's not fixed at all.

>>4588850
His name was Zane!

>>4588910
>>4589689
Show off Lily?

>>4588933
>>4589689
Ask how he's holding up! You didn't expect him to volunteer.

>>4589214
Maybe just leave him be.

Writing!
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>>4590584
>It got bandaged, but it's not fixed at all.
Do we know of any individuals or organizations that do medical things, but aren't aligned to Wisp? Because I'm not sure how else we're going to get it fixed.

Speaking of, with Memo #3 open now, I suggest we replace it with something like:
>Get our mangled wrist fixed.
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>>4590639
We can actually fix it any time we want with the mirror, but we voted to leave it until the next time we're inevitably forced to use it, so as to limit relic usage as much as possible.
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>"showing off lilly"
Oh shit wtf
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You fell in alongside the knight and lowered your voice before continuing. "How are you holding up?"

"You needn't worry about me, Ser Valen." He shrugged the query off with an awkward, uncertain grin. "I'm here to do my part. See you got your wrist... Fixed?"

You hold the injured thing up, sharing a look at it with the knight and giving him an uninspiring shrug. "Healer was a little busy with the others, so it's a temporary fix. Now, how about you? Last we talked you were doubting if you were cut out for being a knight at all." You retort simply. "Should I believe that's changed over night?"

The knight stiffened, his shoulders shrinking inward as he marched along. "...You remember that, huh?"

"We talked yesterday, my memory's not that bad." You sniff with faux indignance, racking the aforementioned memory for any additional details to try and support that statement. Name... He told you his name, it was... Shane? No, wait- "Your name is Zane." His head jerked up swiftly. That was exactly it. "You gave me the report on the night opoeration that finally weeded the insurgents out of Carona."

"I... Didn't expect you'd remember me at all." He admitted slowly. Loosing a weighted sigh, Zane seemed to resign himself to his fate. "Guess there's no use pretending, then."

Your brow arched. "Is there a reason to have pretended in the first place?"

"...I said some things to you last time I really shouldn't have. I'm very grateful for all you've done for us, Ser Valen. Please forget I said anything at all."

"...No?" The answer you blurted out was almost a question.

"Well. Uh." Zane grasped futilely for a response to that. "Alright."

"I'm not going to punish you for anything." You glance aside towards the now awkwardly walking knight. "If anyone was going to have doubts about this, it would have been after that night. It was everyone's first real experience being directly involved as knights."

"All the same, Ser Valen, saying it to your face is-"

"Is fine." You interject confidently. "Not everyone is going to be cut out for the same roles. It's why coming out here for training was spread as a voluntary thing. After what happened, I figured it was a good time to give people eager for more of that experience a way to sharpen their skills in advance."

"..." Zane's pace slowed, forcing you to drag your own feet and begin falling behind the escort to stay alongside him. His tongue dipped from between his lips, anxiously wetting the cracked skin.

"Zane?"

"...This wasn't for weeding out people who wouldn't be useful?"

You blinked, crimson eyes boring into the mortified looking knight. "No. Did you think I was going to abandon everyone who didn't come?"

"Not in... Those words, exactly." Zane obliquely conceded. "Ser Valen, I... I think I've made a terrible mistake."
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Your uninjured hand rested against your hip, drawing in a slow breath as the two of you came to a full stop the escort procession carried on, ironically, without the person they were supposed to be escorting. "I fully intend to find places for all of you. If you volunteered for this thinking that you had to in order to not be left behind, there's still time to turn back."

"You're fine with that, Ser Valen?" Zane's eyes meekly rose to meet yours, dipping away almost immediately as they had the last you'd met. "Even after what I said?"

"I'm more curious about what kind of image you have of me to get that idea in the first place." Flat words and an even flatter expression. "How many of the others are here because of that...?"

"I couldn't tell you." Zane's embarassed apology came out almost shamefully. "Some, maybe?"

"Maybe?" You frown.

"Some of us are less confident than others in our place here." He picked at his collar nervously, struggling to actually tell you the words. "...Unsure what we have to offer, or what you want from us, and what'll happen if we can't meet it. B-But not everyone!" He hastily amended himself, "It's just... We don't have a whole lot to go on, really. Dullem has worked with miss Lamandra to keep us all occupied, but he never had any solid answers about where we'd end up at the end of the week."

"So..." You were starting to get a semblance of the distressed knight's thoughts. "When this happened, you thought you finally had an answer to that."

"It was the first order to come directly from you." Zane agreed reluctantly. "Miska and some others had spread rumours about it some time ago, but coming on the heels of that operation... This was what being a knight was, right? That kind of feeling?" He looked to you almost pleadingly to understand what he was saying.

...And you can imagine how Miska might have been particularly enthusiastic about hyping up this sort of thing. Though even if she hadn't, he made a valid point over your relative absence from their lives. This was, all told, the first real start of your attempts to organize your knights in a cohesive manner.

The procession was getting further away now, but you could see a group of the knights glancing back at the two of you. If you let them get too far away you'd probably catch heat from Rinnier later. "Zane, do you want to train for combat?"

"...If Ser Valen wouldn't be offended, I would prefer not to."

"Then go back, Zane." You gestured back to Carona, maybe half a day's walk back. "If there's anyone else back there who were worried like this but chose not to come, tell them it'll be fine. I'll find a place for all of you."
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Was... Was he crying?

The knight's jaw clenched, running his sleeve over his eyes as he nodded hastily. He needed no further encouragement to start jogging back towards Carona, and you watched him go for a couple seconds longer, a complicated expression shifting across your face. How many more of this group were here for similar reasons? How many back in town had thought the same?

You'd need to set them straight when you stopped for the night.

You tapped the toe of your boot against the road; A practical upgrade you couldn't have made soon enough from the formal dress shoes you used to favor - Which proved a nightmare to walk through any degree of wilderness in, much less as much as you were prone to recently.

No sooner had you started jogging after the rest of your knights did the breeze catch your hair, sending it scattering in a golden wake behind you... Only to be reigned back in when Lily's ivy coiled around the scattered blonde and bundle it back together in a loose ponytail.

Your face twitched against the wind, eyes briefly rolling back to glower at the perched mask. The child blissfully continued to toy with your hair as the day went on, growing bolder with its efforts; It was already well beyond the point that you'd reflexively struck others for, and the conspicuous lack of compulsive violence you felt towards the innocent Apparition was proving to be a separate matter entirely from the dwindling pool of non-violent patience you were recently discovering you had for this in general.

Not to mention that if any of your knights got the nerve to question your sudden change in hairstyle, you'd be hard pressed to explain it without showing Lily off or trying to claim an interest in hairvine accessories... But, then again, if you had to use Lily at all on this trip, the last thing you wanted was your knights panicking. The last few times nature had reared its head at them, it hadn't been on the friendliest of terms.

...Maybe you should make a point to show her off a little in some discrete manner to curtail that sort of panic.
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You slipped back into the ranks of your knights not much longer later, nodding at them when they cast curious looks in your direction. "Don't suppose any of the rest of you thought you had to come for training or get abandoned?"

"Got my own reasons for being here, Ser Valen." One of them, a middle aged man you didn't immediately recognize, attested. "I was one of the hostages they took that night. Dunno if I could have changed anything if I'd known how to handle myself better, but I hated not being able to do anything."

"And the rest of you?" Crimson eyes swiveled from knight to knight, searching for the same kind of reluctance Zane had shown you.

"Hey uh, our reasons aren't as good as his." Two others laughed, "But I'm pretty handy with a bow. Figured I'd make the most of it, Ser Valen."

"Didn't want to be a farmer like my parents."

You cast a skeptical look at the second knight. "So you volunteered for combat training?"

"Well I'd be a shite knight if I couldn't at least put some people on their ass in the name of my lord, ain't I?"

"...Huh."

>You've done enough for the day. Meet back up with Rinnier and Ari, call it for the day (Day: 1/3)
>Ask after Miska. Best to end the day off checking on her.
>You're close enough to finishing up a circuit around your escort, may as well see everyone.
>Other? (write-in)

Also!
>How do you want to show Lily off to your knights?
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>>4590942
>Ask after Miska. Best to end the day off checking on her.
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>>4590942
>You're close enough to finishing up a circuit around your escort, may as well see everyone.
For completeness's sake.

>How do you want to show Lily off to your knights?
Simply state that the mask 'Lily', like Aegis was a gift from the Fae as proof of the Valen-Fae compact, and that more gifts may turn up should they decide to grant us another boon in the future.

I'm now thinking that we should contact Aluette with the boosted Jin stick, and get her to find Caylen then deliver the status update and try and convince him to return, so he can't get intercepted / interrupted and there is someone else to keep him honest and potentially notice any hints we drop.
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>You're close enough to finishing up a circuit around your escort, may as well see everyone.

>Show off Lily?
Not at all. It's better to keep the element of surprise, if we show them rumors will spread.
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>>4590939
>"No. Did you think I was going to abandon everyone who didn't come?"
Oh geez. I suppose this is a side effect of us being a slightly mythical person to them.

>The child blissfully continued to toy with your hair as the day went on, growing bolder with its efforts
I suspect this isn't going to be sustainable. Ask her to top messing with our hair. If needed, back it up with a threat to move her away from our hair if she doesn't stop.

>>4590942
>You're close enough to finishing up a circuit around your escort, may as well see everyone.
Might as well finish the job.

>How do you want to show Lily off to your knights?
Have Lily briefly wave, just enough to show she's not just a mask/hat.
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Whats wrong with Lily touching our hair. We put the mask on our head after all. Lettemdoit
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>>4590942
>Ask after Miska. Best to end the day off checking on her.

>How do you want to show Lily off to your knights?
Let her stretch her legs, teach her to interact with people and practice her words.
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>>4590945
>>4591901
Miska!

>>4590962
>>4590983
>>4591211
Let's finish up the circuit.
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>>4590962
Explain Lily away as a gift from the fae!

>>4591211
Lily should wave!

>>4590983
Reluctance to parade Lily about!

>>4591901
Absolutely no reluctance to parade Lily about!

I really need to get the vote calling/writing windows ironed out more consistently. Skyfire is risen so I'll be withdrawing until later tonight.

Happy new years, everyone! Not really sure if you guys are regretting asking for casual time or not, but if you get restless give me a heads up - You can always vote to finish the journey there and skip the rest of travel time.
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Happy years. I personally shit through the moment by accident, should have timed it better
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>>4592377
Have a year that is better than the last one, everybody!
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A casual wave saw you off from the prior group of knights as your eyes wandered the escort procession. You'd spent a fair portion of the day already, and while Miska's state weighed somewhere on the edge of your mind, you didn't think you'd be pursuing it today even if you did run across her. On the other hand, you were close enough to having made a full circuit about the formation that you may as well finish it up. At the very least having this walk about had given you a general summary of who all had come along.

The last group of knights you wandered towards raised their hands in greeting as you approached. In stark contrast to the first few groups you'd slipped into, they didn't seem all that nervous about your presence either. More comfortable with you, maybe? Or...

You flash a smile at them, holding your head high with the evening breeze tickling at your neck. "Heard I was coming?"

"Word gets around." One of them acknowledged. "Would have hated to be the first guys, though."

"Someone has to be first." You shrug haplessly. "I wanted to see how everyone was doing for myself. Get to know my knights better now that I'm not so preoccupied."

"Aye?" The knight who'd hailed you inclined his head. "Would it be rude t'ask how that's gone?"

"Better than I expected. More enthusiasm for this sort of thing than I thought there'd be. Some misunderstandings I'll be clearing up when we stop for the night later." You were used to having to crane your neck up to speak to Dullem, the absolute bear of a man that he was, but it was a little frustrating that a lot of your knights were just... Taller than you. You were increasingly surrounded by people taller than you these days. "I wouldn't have been surprised if that weeding out Carona's rebellion had scared more of you off."

The man's laugh came out more like a bark. "Nowhere to scare us off to, y'know? Sides, Ain't no other noble that's gonna get drunk with us on a month long bender; I'll be taking my chances here."

Your eyes cut skyward, taking an small, exasperated breath. "That won't be happening again any time soon."

"Aye, y'say that." The knight nodded with an undiscouraged certainty you didn't feel he should have had. "But no one drinks like that once and don't make a habit of it. Had more parties under you in the last few months than I've had last year and a half or so. Can't speak for the rest of these louts on that, though."

Hard to reconcile being a drunkard as being some untouchable figure to your knights. You resign yourself to not thinking too hard over it with a shake of your head. "What kind of noble buys loyalty with liqour...?"

"Hey, hey now! If we had more of those the country'd be a lot better, you know?"

You weren't sure how much of the grin on your face was forced. There was a weird feeling here, a sort of praise you weren't expecting... But did it have to be like this?
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"There will be no such parties where we're going." You reiterate with exasperation, traces of fondness treacherously coloring what should have been a reprimand.

"I'll be right damned if we don't get shitfaced drunk at some point, Ser Valen." The man insisted confidently. "Ready to throw in all I've got for this knight business in the meantime."

"Meantime...?" Was the binge drinking his first occupation? Part-time knight? "Don't say I didn't warn you."

"Uh, Ser Valen?" A different knight interjected, adding himself to the conversation in a far less boisterous manner. "Not sure if you're the one I should be asking, but when are we getting paired off with the demihumans again?"

...And like that you're lost for words. A friend of his playfully shoves him at the shoulder, snickering at the knight who made at least half an effort to look irritated before returning his attention to you. "Ser Valen?"

"Don't worry, you won't be." You shake your head eventually. The knight blinked at the news, confusion twitching across his features. "The demihuman pack won't be cooperating with us any longer."

"Oh, I wasn't worried, Ser Valen. I, just, uh..."

"The bastard's been sweet on one of them for a month now." His friend added with a smirk. "Were you actually going to try and ask our lord for special privileges? Really?"

"I would not." Indignation slammed down like a wall on the questioning knight, "But it's been a while since they worked with us, I mean..." He looked back to you, "I'm sorry if this is out of place, Ser Valen. I was just wondering if there was an idea about when it'd happen next."

Your lips thinned, and with the lack of response the knight's question seemed to hang in the air. "Hey if you're that hard up you could have just gone to see her before we left." His friend teased. "Can't be that hard to find."

"We've been busy!" He insisted, "...I'd have at least liked to say bye before we set off, you know?"

"To clarify..." You put the words together slowly, almost regretting that you were about to ask at all. "You were friends with one of Kara's pack?"

"Kara's the real tall one, right?" He pointed skyward. "The one that'd just pick up whole support beams and wander off with them? Always talking with Dullem?"

You weren't sure exactly what she'd been up to in your absence, but you swallow and nod.

"Ah, yeah... Friends. Something like that." The knight affirmed. "We got along well."

"I didn't hear about this?" A frown creased your lips.

"...Should you have?" The knight asked honestly. "Were we not supposed to?"

"It's not that, all the reports I got suggested you weren't getting along. A lot of distrust and frustrations on both sides, piles of complaints..." You were letting your mouth run now as you tried to wrack your mind back for something you missed.
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"That doesn't sound too off." The knight admitted with a sheepish, almost ashamed grin straining at the corner of his mouth. "I get picked on a bit for it, but I don't think they were all that bad. Dullem said you had us working together to try and build teamwork, or integration, or something like that right? I didn't mind it."

"Were there others like you?" You don't know if you would have been happier if he said yes or no, but the question came out all the same.

"A few of us, yeah." He nodded, and the group became conspicuously silent as he talked. Averted eyes, and more than a couple less friendly stares directed his way. "Word got around pretty quickly when some of us were getting too friendly with them, but I don't know who else was actually... Er, as interested."

"Why weren't there any reports about that?" If it was common knowledge, Dullem should have said something, right?

"I... Didn't think I was supposed to report on that?" The man suggested slowly. "Wait, are we not supposed to start relationships with them?"

"No, but-" You run a palm over your face. "The only reports I got were negative ones. If there was progress working together, why didn't any of it show up?"

You didn't get an answer. You weren't expecting one. Certainly no one here could have been able to provide one.

>How are you going to respond?
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>>4593428
>You were increasingly surrounded by people taller than you these days.
We could solve that by wearing heels, I guess. Pretty sure we'd mostly make a fool of ourselves and make our feet hurt, but it'd solve the 'short' issue.

>There was a weird feeling here, a sort of praise you weren't expecting... But did it have to be like this?
Take what you can get, Rue. They've got weird ideas about us due to our distance, and we've done some weird stuff.

>"The bastard's been sweet on one of them for a month now."
Aw, hell. She'd been playing him like a fiddle, I'd bet, trying to get a line in on the knights, but this'll make the news that much harder to break.

> "The only reports I got were negative ones. If there was progress working together, why didn't any of it show up?"
That'll come down to how the info we were getting was collected and sorted before being passed to us. Complaints tend to involve people making their issues heard, or at least attempting to. Cooperation is more of a quiet thing.

>>4593431
>How are you going to respond?
Resignation. They're dead and gone, now, and to be honest positive reports of their interactions with the knights wouldn't have changed their fate.
It was their interactions with the townsfolk that was causing most of the friction, and Kara's destruction of them was almost entirely disconnected from that.
I'm still glad to be rid of them. Kara was the only one with any powers or strength byond a normal person, but they caused massive headaches.
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>>4593431
>How are you going to respond?
Looks like we're going to have to investigate a little, who would they have told, we did sort of expect to only really be told about things that would have been judged to require our input, while their initiative should be relied on to get things done quickly and without fuss Since we were off doing more important things for most of the time. so it might just be a case of miscommunication, or could be signs of enemy action / influence that we should keep abreast of, we should probably see what Rinner has to say about it as well. Kara and Raid might adopt more demi-humans at some point, if they ever return so we may be able to doge some questions in the future.

>>4593494
They worked pretty well as a self contained work crew that we didn't need to spend much money on, that we didn't have.
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>>4593509
>They worked pretty well as a self contained work crew that we didn't need to spend much money on, that we didn't have.

In that they were a work crew that we had some nominal control over, I guess. But simply by putting them near the other work crews they were doing more harm than good, even before the rest of the socio-political issues they caused more generally.
Plus I seem to recall they had a tendency to slack off if not watched.
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>>4593525
It was significantly cheaper and faster than needing to find, hire and transport the cranes and spare man power we would have needed for things to proceed at the same rate, freeing up other skilled workers that could be used better than be wasted on the manual labour and so could focus on their skills and doing other more useful things.
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>>4593431
Let them know that the Demihumans were involved with Artemis and had planned to attack Carona.

Kara stopped them, but . . . Picking sides cost her too much. She left, took Raid with her, and you don't know if they'll be back. Some choices hurt too much.

Use a tone that lets them know in between the lines that the Demi-humans aren't coming back.

Don't say the next part

Maybe they were in on it, maybe they weren't. We'll never know, now, but for the sake of what we have left the narrative has to be that they were.
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>>4593431
>How are you going to respond?
Rethink our info gathering strategy. If we don't have accurate information, how can we rule anything?
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>>4593593
Too bad people are illiterate. Otherwise we could start a newspaper.

We need a dedicated information gatherer. Too bad that tavern girl ran off because she thought we weren't dangerous enough to be around.
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>Wave it away. The demihumans are no longer our problem, it don't matter
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>>4593431
>>4593585
Seconding this, except for the part where we're dishonest with our Knights, only mention the possible artemis connection as speculation.
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>>4594581
It's not dishonesty, it's a choice of which possibility to believe in.
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>>4593494
Resignation! They're dead and gone.

>>4593509
>>4593593
Investigation! It's too late now, but it's still worth looking into for clarity's sake.

>>4593585
>>4594581
The demihumans were cooperating with Artemis! Or maybe they weren't. Whatever the truth is, that's the suspicion they were under and there's no longer a way to find out.

Alright! Let's see if I can get this out before falling asleep!
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Faced with the knight's want of an answer, you run a hand through your hair and force a neutral expression. No point in skirting this issue, especially if he was emotionally invested in it... And you're not sure how many others would be. You certainly were. "Would you like the honest answer or the official one?"

"I'm sorry?"

The silence around your conversation suffered a slight, terribly noticeable shift from discomfort to suspicous curiosity. The scent of gossip in the air, and an unexpected offer from their lord. However, that offer was only for one of them, and you waited patiently for what choice he'd make.

"I'd prefer the honest one, if it's not too much trouble."

You drew a breath. Preparation over surprise; This was no surprise at all. If anything, it felt cheap to have presented it in such a manner that you could rationalize it away as the man having brought the answers upon himself... Because he wasn't going to like what came next. Resigned, you let the first of your knights learn the about the rest of that night. "The demihuman pack was under suspicion of cooperating with Artemis. The night of the operation to weed out the last of Carona's rebellious elements, they were apparently set to help disrupt the efforts. Worst case scenario, a number of them, at least one confirmed, had been providing information directly to the rebellion."

Was it worth suggesting that any relationship he'd likely kindled with a demihuman had been simple manipulation? A security risk? You had no hard proof of it... Only knowledge of what they were like, and a lingering, bitter uncertainty over whether Raid had done the same.

No. You could see denial welling in his eyes; needlessly rubbing salt in the wound wasn't part of your plans.

"Ser Valen there... There has to be a mistake, she wouldn't have been part of anything like that- I, I absolutely give you my word on that!"

"There's going to be an ongoing investigation effort into what happened, and what the truth of the matter actually was... But-" You shake your head, swiftly snuffing the slight glimmer of hope in the man. "-It won't change the fact that you won't be seeing them again. As of the end of that night, all but two of the pack are dead."

"She's... Dead." The unsteady echo tumbled off the tip of his tongue. He looked... Lost. Face twitching in a vain effort to express his shifting feelings. "What do you mean 'dead'? How?"

"Executed by the pack leader." A technical truth, because what you saw of your Testament told you that it wasn't something so clean and formal; They'd been slaughtered.
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Ambient bitterness tinged the words still slipping through your teeth. "I was informed after the fact. It was what kept me from personally attending the square during the end of the operation." You gave that moment up to be there for Kara and you had nothing to show for it. It stung, but was ultimately just an itch in the pile of frustrations you had over how everything turned out... And you imagine the man in front of you was experiencing something far worse than an 'itch'.

"That..." His tongue tied for words, not due to a lack of them but the glut of how many were trying to rush out at once. "She- Executed? Why? She was just... You don't even know yet if-"

"The two surviving members of the pack have elected to go their separate ways from us." You continue, obligated and determined to see this through. "So whether they were cooperating or not... It's not something I can answer for sure. Whatever the answer, it won't bring them back... I'm sorry."

This information would spread around the knights well before this trip was over. You didn't need to glance to the other knights to know that this conversation was all they'd be chewing on for the rest of the night... So with your condolences somberly paid, you excused yourself. Dusk was drawing closer, and you'd spent the majority of the day meandering through your knights... Without a sign of Miska. Even if you'd resolved not to approach her today, you'd expected to have at least caught sight of her during your rounds.

More of your knights than you realized had lost something important to them that night. More than you had expected even, as news of the burgeoning cooperation with the demihumans obnoxiously teased at the edge of your mind; How had you missed that? All the reports had been... No, people filed complaints over problems. You wouldn't have had near as many reports of cases going well. To an extent that made sense, but even still... Had Dullem not realized it was worth relaying? Had he relayed it, but verbally? Had Rinnier known?

...Did it matter? The bulk of those reports hadn't come from your knights in the first place; The reports came from Carona's citizens. The only thing you distinctly remember hearing as feedback from your knights was that they had a tendency to slack off when left unattended.

Was that it?

A month and so of working side by side and the only report was slacking?

You frowned, trusting your legs to guide you while packed dirt grit underfoot. No, there had been more, wasn't there? You remember having discussed the idea of further cooperative work organizing a trip to the north for supplies. The demihumans had worked with the knights to bring in another giant serpent to supplement Carona's foodstores, and though Kara had spearheaded it... Had you overlooked the consideration involved?
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There were so many other things pressing for your attention that you wouldn't be surprised if you'd just glazed over the less prominent signs of progress in favor of trying to swiftly categorize the latest hangnail in your sphere... But you needed to look into this. It was one thing if you'd been blind to it - Expected almost, seeing how often you were gone - but it was another entirely if that information had just never made it to you. And another entirely if what had made it had been primed to distract you.

It didn't matter. Not in so much as what happened couldn't be changed now, at least; the demihumans were dead, Kara and Raid were gone, there was nothing left to gain by lingering on what you could have missed. It wasn't like you could just drag the dead back to life.

Could Dryad?

A thought so innocuous that it gave you pause.

Dryad's Atelier had granted you a privilege which let you do explicitly that, but only for one person, and only once, at significant cost to you both. You had no real understanding of where the scope of Dryad's power ended... But if that privilege was an infintesimally small indication of what was possible, then entreating the Mana of Life may well allow large scale resurrection.

...At the cost of wedging open the confines of Dryad's seal that much further, allowing and hastening its seep back into the world.

There would be no closing that box again once opened, but the possibility presented itself all the same.

You cast a leery glance up, brushing your fingertips against Lily to adjust the affectionate little apparition. Nothing unusual out of her. So far as you could tell, she'd not even been paying attention to you just now- Though that changed almost immediately after receiving a slip of acknowledgement.

Excitement and warmth bubbled up in equal measure within the child, a vague curiosity over what you would be doing later radiating over your bracelet's connection. You'd probably make a point of introducing her to the assembled knights when you stopped for the night.

...No, that doesn't mean you'll get to play with them.

A quick correction cut the child's joy at the knees, wherein she continued to incorrigibly look forward to it anyway.
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"That took longer than I expected." Rinnier murmured in way of greeting as you rejoined her in the center of the escort.

"Learned more than I expected. Did you know some of the knights had started actively befriending the demihumans?" Equal parts a legitimate question as it was venting, your brows knit together while talking. "Where were the reports on that?"

"I think I recall Dullem mentioning something like that once before." Rinnier placed a finger to her lips thoughtfully. "He told me some of them had been a little too enthusiastic in getting to know each other."

"You didn't think to mention that to me?" Maybe more heat than was necessary colored that question. "Why am I only finding out about it now?"

"I didn't pay it much mind." She explained coolly. "He mentioned it in passing over morning tea, I disapproved, that's all."

"It still would have been nice to know." Rinnier cast a sideward glance your way. For a moment she looked as if she was going to say something, but for several seconds longer she only watched you. "What?"

"I'm sorry."

The fight you'd already primed yourself to get into sputtered indignantly. "Sorry?"

"Sorry." She nodded. "My stance on the demihumans set aside, I know you were invested in them. It slipped my mind, and if you're only finding out now then I imagine the same for Dullem. I'd forgotten about it until you brought it up just now, honestly." She waited a beat, waiting for a response, before continuing. "If you had known, could you have changed anything?"

"I don't know." It just irked you. "I don't know if they were actually cooperating with Artemis or if it was just Maro. "They were a lot of trouble just to have around, it would have been nice to have some good news out of them."

Rinnier hummed an indistinct acknowledgement.

"Do we still have the complaints filed on them?" Your train of thought pivoted, gears beginning to turn.

"Yes." The former princess' answer came confidently.

"Do we know who filed them?"

...Here, her confidence faltered. "We should, I think. Fen tried to keep records on things like that, and anything coming from the Shrine would have it as a matter of course. Why?"

"We have a fairly extensive list of people who were collaborating with Artemis now." Understanding dawned in her eyes with that line alone, and with it a spark of pride. "I want those reports cross-referenced with those names."

"I wouldn't be surprised if Artemis had used them as leverage to disparage our position there. There'd be no easier target to complain about in a crowd than demihumans." She murmured, "But you think the reports were more malicious than inherent prejudice."

"It's not Carona I'm worried about." You sigh, "It's me."
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"If the only information I'm making decisions off of is poisoned, then something like this might happen again. Will happen again." Artemis would ensure it. "I can't let that happen. It's too late to make a difference now, but I need to know."

"I'll make it a priority when we get back." Rinner's cooperation all but assured it'd get done, whether you remembered or not. Demihuman prejudice, fine. A deliberate misinformation campaign? "Although, Irue... If this is bothering you that much, aren't you on friendly terms with the Luna Representative?"

"I am..." Your hand slips back to Lily after a spike of irritation grumbled down from her.

"Wouldn't you be able to find out more conclusively from her?"

"We have an agreement that she not think too hard about my business." Could she get the answer? Undoubtedly. Would it risk her uncovering something else in the process? Probably. "Besides, we shouldn't rely on the Shrine when we can help it. They're cooperative now, but they aren't necessarily our allies either."

"No disagreement there." The former princess allowed somewhat begrudgingly. "I'm not used to the Shrine being this friendly in general. They were always rather stand-offish back home; Came with the territory of my family having a personal stake in Salamander's favor. It's not as if we're particularly well established though, so if we can outsource problems to them while they're being generous..."

"We've already done that." You remind her, "Dullem negotiated Gnome adepts willing to travel north to help find raw resources in the mountains, and the Shade Dominion have been tackling oakenbear and who knows what else."

Last you heard, Marchovic still had that note you signed months ago saying he could hunt all the oakenbear he wanted. This had become a source of consternation among certain peers.
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It was getting dark, and that meant stopping for the night. You doubted there was anything particularly dangerous this close to the road, but it didn't hurt to act as if there might be... Which, largely, was a concern for your knights. Not you. You suspected you'd be forced awake far earlier than your preferred well-after-noon schedule. The alternative, you guessed, was your entire escort standing around watching you sleep - A horrifying prospect in its own right.

You'd wait until things were settled for the night before introducing Lily. Probably try and play her off as a gift from the fey and use that as an excuse for her to help keep watch; It wasn't an inaccurate description of the child's origins, but you'd save the proper explanation of Dryad's existence for some other time.

Walking all day had left the entire group eager to rest, and while slightly more athletic than you used to be, the ache in your legs was no exception. You didn't have a lot of energy left to spend tonight.

>Meditate (which Mana? Dealing with the Shade scar would obviously be Shade related)
>'A Spider's Web'
>Spend your time chatting with a Testament (which?)
>Sleep early, get up early. That's how it works, right?
>Other (write-in)

>The days blend together (Arrive at the estate)
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>>4594974
>Other
Find Miska. That we haven't even seen her is concerning.
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>>4594968
Did we just tell this guy that Kara is dead? She's the only female in her pack, right? Even putting that aside it really seems like he's talking about Kara. I'm confused.

>>4594974
>>4594981
As much as I want to deal with the shade scar, I gotta second this. We can meditate to shade tomorrow.
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>>4594974
>Meditate (which Mana? Dealing with the Shade scar would obviously be Shade related)
to Dryad, get Lily to help us focus and hone in on the aspects we are looking for.

Am this anon here,>>4582262
and have Finally managed to returned home and will begin posting it 'as is' it currently totals eight parts. shortly. Looking back at what i have written it sort of started as an expansion on some possibly overlooked inferences that could sort of be made with the little concrete information that we had, but it rapidly drifted into assumed future planning and possible routes to achieve said goals Keeping the main Valen bloodline going, keeping as many of them alive, since they currently come to a grand total of 3, and to that end it rambles over Suring up the local Valen holdings, and securing / seizing control of any easy route to the Dryad fragment and Corona, since when it manages to free itself we're likely going to be left holding the 'bag' / get blamed when things descend into chaos.

It also happens to be based off information that was not available prior to this thread, so some of it now runs counter to 'word of god' and needs to be re written / adjusted to account for it.

I could definitely use it being entirely deconstructed and some of the issues raised / adjusted to meet the majority's feel for where we should take things.
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>>4594995
Attempting to unify a Time line and figure out motives, (sort of).

Thread #11 >>41477349
Thread #12 >>41617197
"It's not just some Prophecy, Caylen. It's fate. Do you get it? Fate. F-A-T-E. It'll happen, whether you like it or not."
"I don't really believe in fate." Caylen admitted, "As outlandish as the claim is in the first place, there's too many things that just don't match up, and I don't appreciate you being so suspicious of Irue all this time."
"Your cousin should still be home, working out their Testament conditions." Maran replied sharply, "We were supposed to hold out the siege until one of those Tier girls got it in her head to go adventuring and broke the siege with her beast."
"...And now the siege is broken, they didn't have to die, and my cousin is here with... A tree, I guess." Caylen finished drolly, "What's your point? The siege is broke. It was even broken by some kind of monster thing. The rough details got filled in, didn't they?"
"Details matter!" She hissed, "Who is here and how it happens have cascade effects, they change things later. Like a ripple, it starts small and it gets bigger. Understand?"
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"It's not nonsense, Caylen. Everything has gone exactly like the prophet predicted for the last ten years!" Maran hissed, "Even before then, these events have been in motion for who knows how long? Everything led up to this, as the Goddess willed. You can't write it off as a coincidence or 'destiny nonsense', the fact that something's changed is bad!"
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"That I'm some champion, chosen by a mysterious Goddess who stands above all, destined to fight seven great evils and bring the crippled world to light?" He replied with a tone so flat, it could have been mistaken for a one-dimensional frame. "I told you already, but I don't believe in fate - and that's ridiculous, even if it didn't come from a pagan prophet."
> The main thing is that Artemis has definitely, and completely failed. in finding a cure , that isn't directly applying wholesale death and destruction to anything that might be infected and may be attempting to expedite the Dryad's retribution.
> An additional thing to take away from all of this is the fact that 'Behemoth', (the only thing in the Tier's estate that could possibly be claimed to be able to "end a siege" single-handedly.) can be tamed and controlled, and Artemis at very least knows that it is possible somehow, and were depending on it, pulling through for them, and that they have been manipulating things for a very long time and so are very likely the ones behind the fate of the of the Valen main branch.
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>>4594998
Part One cont.
Also Artemis deciding that Caylen was their champion seems like an absolute massive blunder on it's face since if anyone decided to ask Caylen about it, I don't think he would lie, and that could only makes sense if they decided to take ,"heir to the Valen bloodline" literally which leads me to believe "Irue" is the actually the doll, that her mother woke, Clara's write-up also further supports by implying that 'one of the Twins came out of nowhere' this, the Doll write-up confirms that the timeline make this possible, and 'Irue' is even the younger of the pair and she even felt like a doll when she had to get up in Thread # 4 . and that Artemis somehow found out about it.
Though they may just be using it to destabilize the Valen holdings early, and if Civil war was to develop, early Valen aligned efforts would likely be diverted to bring him home if at all possible.

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We are always operating with less-than complete information. Always.
When we think we have perfect information, bad things happen.
Also at this point I feel that we are well past preventing anything from happening of if we ever really had a chance, and so we now should start thinking about what we actually value, and how they align with the various factions and organisations, to begin planing how to mitigate the consequences for them as best we can, using the influence and time we still have before things really start to go wrong.
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>>4595000
Since Artemis is still sanctioned by Luna, somehow, how did they manage to explain this to the rest of the shrine, and get away with it, Do any other Mana's Sects have further divisions and or organisations like this, or is it Luna only kind of thing? .
After all, we don't know how the Dryad was sealed in the Atelier, why the loop ends where it does (after all if you had to feel everyone that is somewhat attuned to their mana, die in a rapid fashion over and over again wouldn't that have a significant impact on the opinion / position of the pillar's duality)or if anything could have been manipulated or removed after the seal was set up, after all we know that Luna can steal memories and Dryad was at it's most vulnerable, and how they managed to wipe the knowledge of Dryad from the rest of the Eight, and explain how they managed to get away with it.
The only way to really tell would be to have Ephlesia invaded, and see what we could find as proof, that an infection does actually exist and rework what we know from there on the fly.

if we are attempting to maintain the status quo, we should see if it is possible for a Undine attuned adept to recall information that was memory holed by Luna, since by forewarning them somehow, the Mana may be able to prepare in order to survive their upcoming encounter.


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>>4595001
I think the best way to proceed would be to come clean to (Clara about things directly related to the "Fae" and Artemis's goals, since it would probably be a good idea to limit these things as best we can to those with Valen 'blood' only.) and( Byrn about more mundane things and those related to the civil war.) about everything and see what they suggest we do and any additional support that they could offer.
> Maran's Prophecy should be used to highlight the fact that all of their planning and efforts to keep us and Caylen out of things has failed, and that if they want to help we need to know everything.
Something else we should ask is if they could look into how the Tier's managed to get a Behemoth into their estate at Carona, since I don't think that you could move one around without being noticed (since Carona is a long way from the Teranford border, the Apothecary might have an idea of when reached Carona which might help line things up in the future.) and what they could possibly have been planing to use it for.
> Foreknowledge of the Ice Queen's Atelier, and the fact that Artemis is likely going to try to use it to legitimize a claim to install their allies onto the throne, it's also be something that could traded to the Crown as part of a peace offering.
Irue really needs to get over themselves, and stop living in the past; and start living for the future. Preferably before the world decides to kick any more of their remaining teeth in.


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>>4595002
If she is unconscious (or dead), we should see if we can get the "Fae" to restore her life (we may need to transport the body into the forest to do so.), after all she is a Valen by blood, not by marriage so the "Warden's pact" probably covers her too
If Clara is badly hurt but still concious we could suggest that she use the diary, to revert herself for long enough to get her into the forest.
Something else that we could offer up, in return would be to provide our assent to be married off.
or at very least take on a consort, because the Valen line should not end if ('when') bad things happen, and it would prepare for this endeavour take multiple generations of 'wardens' to reverse. (If we have problems with this, I'm sure that Dryad would be overjoyed to help out.)
> This should underscore how serious we are (Even if we decide to not divulge everything) and help release some tension between the Valen and the Crown, though the only real constraints that we would need for whomever they chose to come to us not the other way around as a matter of practicality.
Also we could bring the Jinn branch with us, if it can't we should see if the Bracelet can help it along and see if we could call Caylen and Alouette to tell them about the things that have happened and that he needs to come home, if he doesn't; we're coming to get him. (We could also include Clara on the call if we wanted to increase the guilt factor, and assume by default that Maran is listening in.) And arange to call again in a few days so we can check in and explain things further
Something also worth taking into account, is that assuming that those that fled into Ephlesia from Teranford survived they are likely looking for Rinnier, so it could be possible to trade her for Caylen if Artemis holds him hostage. (She could also be targeted for "recovery" by them, if her heritage becomes known)


// I Still need to expanding on the Call's contents, and likely defences to raised questions, and what to raise first in order to flow to our advantage best.

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>>4595004
Where to go from here Part 1.

As it stands we have two sets of choices if we should chose to Embrace Dryad and try to limit the fallout Solely to Artemis, as best we can and hope that Dryad exhausts themselves / calms down and then hope we can sue for peace in the aftermath, however unlikely; since they are likely to cry foul to the Shrine and get the rest of the Mana involved. , if we do go this we need to talk to Asche and get her to stop being such a wet blanket, without a proper explanation of why and no selling us the moment we try and do anything since it is limiting our potential and is thus is likely going to put us, and others in future in massive danger, since without a strong connection, Dryad won't listen to us.
> We can either choose to accelerate Dryad's rise and take more overt actions to accelerating Dryad's return (Rebuild & repurpose the ruined shrine into a nursery to cultivate Dryad's workforce, investigate river for more possibly active containment measures[Dam and divert the river at the fork to south in order to flood Sylv, Resuri]), or focus on maintaining stealth by focusing on more covert actions ( properly Fortify a location deeper within the Forrest to act as a panic bunker, and map out an escape route into the mountains and one further into the forest, / increase mining operations as a cover for investigating the rivers twin sources for Dyrad related protective measures )

And so if we were planing to create an opportunity to strike back at Artermis's immediate ability to operate in the area, and secure it in case of future assaults.
We should consider redirecting the flow of the nearby river by constructing a dam at the bifurcation downstream ( to the South, water should flow downhill, most of the time.) of Irue's manor, as to redirect the entirety of the flow towards Sylv, and Resuri could have some interesting implications, provide various opportunities that we could take advantage of, and reveal more information across many areas
> Various methods could be employed to facilitate its construction; Dryad's Apparitions / Aspirations could be leveraged for assistance, The Knight's and their various talents could be utilised, or either Gnome or Undine sects of the shrine could probably do it as a favor; depending on how covert we want to be.
Seeing if diverting the river that apparently serves as the boundary for the Fae's dominion has any effect on the Dryad Fragment's ability to project its influence across the river or not, since it's sort of convenient that such a demarcation exists, and yet the Dryad fragment has not extended it's reach further
> Figuring out how Artemis somehow managed to construct and maintain the seal that was used to constrain the 8th pillar of Mana, and the terms of the Valen - Fae compact are going to be critical to our attempts to either reinforce or undermine whatever is actually keeping Dryad suppressed.

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>>4595007
Where to go from here Part 1 - Cont.

The main thing that got me suspicious was that Dryad had yet to even attempt to reclaim the Ruined Shrine, even though, literally the only people between the Atelier and the Shrine was when the Manor was populated in the entire time it's been there.


Redirecting the flow of the river will likely damage, or at least temporally invalidate or flood most if not all infrastructure that is built downstream on of either branches of the bifurcation
> You can't use a dry riverbed to transport supplies using, and increasing the flow of a river, increases the height of water which would flood infrastructure that isn't prepared for it, meaning that anyone transporting goods using the river is going to now need transport them using other methods
Sufficiently damaged infrastructure could be used as cover to provide assistance reassert temporary Valen Stewardship / oversight to flush out Artermis and their sympathizers early of the impacted Townships, or to extend aid as a political maneuver.
> Additional / excessive funds and assistance could be provided during the reconstruction period to harden the surrounding areas, and infrastructure as a precaution for potential future happenings; for example it would be worth it to install a canal lock (or series of locks for additional protection from floods) of some kind into the river so its usage can be monitored and controlled to a degree, somewhere downstream of the bifurcation in order to "delay the onset of flooding like this in the future."
It would serve a good defence, from having our land based defences circumvented and allowing whomever wanted to fast easy and barely monitored access into the heartland of Valen - Fae holdings, for a second time. (they had their cheap shot and they wasted it, mostly.)

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Where to go from here Part 2 - The other choice

And we should focus which faction to back wile doing do our best to interfere in the Civil war, and just let Dryad happen when it happens, and hope that it doesn't kill everyone on whatever side we take. I'm going to assume that by default that we would be softly supporting the crown, by staying well clear of the Noble faction.
> If we were to attempt to take a more active role it would be best to focus on attempting to find and secure the descendants of the previous royal family so we can wait out the war and make a deal with them later, and failing that, destroying / defacing the Ice Queen's Atelier in order to hide the physical proof of their linage.

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>>4595009
Other miscellaneous, and other assorted stuff that couldn't really put somewhere and hasn't really been touched, on elsewhere.

See if we can find the Slave Trader could help us track down and / or recover the Tier sisters, since I'm sure that further payment and covering of any expenses incurred could be arranged quite easily, and we don't exactly have time the to spare to go chasing after them, we should be able to delegate this since we helped, him move his slower stock.
> Our good report should be worth something right, it would funny if he was the one carting them around in the first place anyway, wouldn't it. Although they and their family are likely Artemis affiliated, since they turned up to our Rite hanging off Caylen's arms.
Notify the relevant Shrine personnel (likely Mim) that Kara (and Raid+ Shade scar), might turn up at some point asking for help, and we would greatly appreciate it if they did their best to accommodate their needs to help them to the best of their ability.
Solve the Behemoth situation soon, preferably before we attempt to retake the Ruined Shrine, since the Hybrid would probably be very useful if we run into an Aspiration or something, since if anything is there it's likely to be pretty powerful considering how many people died, and how long it would have been there unnoticed. After retaking the Shrine, the Hybrid would likely be a good candidate; to serve as a head start while trying to uplift / cultivate a second Fragment, assuming the assimilate / ingratiation plan works at all.


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The post was missing the image that went with it, to help clarify the written description of the Dam's location.
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>>4594995
I feel like you're relying on a lot of unfounded assumptions, and I completely fail to understand your logic in some places.

>>4594998
I agree with your conclusions in this post

>>4595000
Maybe there can be many heirs to a bloodline, and Caylen fits. Then choosing him is logical since access to him is much easier than to Irue.

>>4595002
>I think the best way to proceed would be to come clean to Clara
I'm inclined to agree

>>4595002
>how the Tier's managed to get a Behemoth into their estate... without being noticed
I don't think they had to hide. Capturing Behemots doesn't seem to be against the law.

>could traded to the Crown
The Crown might be working together with Artemis, or at least have the same goals. We really shouldn't assume anything about the Crown's intentions, given how weird their actions so far seem.

>>4595004
>Something else that we could offer up, in return would be to provide our assent to be married off.
Implying Clara wants that. It was heavily implied in the writeups that the marriage deal was a ploy to spur Irue into activity.
Also if we marry we lose the control of the House.

>>4595007
>Sufficiently damaged infrastructure could be used as cover to reassert temporary Valen Stewardship
As soon as it becomes known we build the dam in the first place, it's over for us. And all it takes is one Luna Adept thinking really hard about why such an unnatural floor happened. Or one of our knights having family down there and not wanting them to die. Or an Artemis spy adding two and two together.
Also what assistance can we provide to two towns when we can't even restore Carona? And do Sylv and Resuri even belong to the Valen territory?

>>4595010
>the Hybrid
Who?
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>>4594968
>Last you heard, Marchovic still had that note you signed months ago saying he could hunt all the oakenbear he wanted. This had become a source of consternation among certain peers.
If that wasn't important work that needed doing, I'd be tempted to take that note back off him.

>The alternative, you guessed, was your entire escort standing around watching you sleep - A horrifying prospect in its own right.
Heh.

>but you'd save the proper explanation of Dryad's existence for some other time.
Much, much later, considering Dryad's existence is still a closely guarded secret, and being discovered to know about it results in Luna mindwiping you.


>>4594974
I want to run a Shade mediation to get a start on dealing with the scar, but I'm worried it'll mess us up something good, resulting in either us making a lot of noise or exhausting us before another day's travel.
>>'A Spider's Web'Back, devil! Back!
>>4594981
I'm ok with this, as long as we don't panic if we don't find her. We can single her out tomorrow if she's slipped away into some dark corner for the night.
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>>4595021
>10 consecutive posts
TL;DR
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>>4594974
>Spend your time chatting with a Testament (which?)
>Rinnier!!

Id read all that text you wrote but i dont got time. Unrelated note, obstacle courses suck
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>>4594974
>Sleep early, get up early. That's how it works, right?

Lol. There were a couple of Anons who had raging paranoia towards the Demihumans, and that one guy who really hates our Aunt for some reason.

I wonder if they're back, now.
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>>4595263
Considering demihumans are born sociopaths, I doubt their affections were anything other than manipulation.
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>>4595263
Day 1 demihuman skeptic reporting.
>>4595269
Dis dude be telling how it is
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>>4595269
That's what I figure.
But the people that were "connecting" with them may not see it that way, so better to let them down gently and be quietly thankful the demihumans are no longer a problem.
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>>4595096
a TL;DR is pretty much contained in the first post.

Looking back at what i have written it sort of started as an expansion on some possibly overlooked inferences that could sort of be made with the little concrete information that we had, but it rapidly drifted into assumed future planning and possible routes to achieve said goals Keeping the main Valen bloodline going, keeping as many of them alive, since they currently come to a grand total of 3, and to that end it rambles over Suring up the local Valen holdings, and securing / seizing control of any easy route to the Dryad fragment and Corona, since when it manages to free itself we're likely going to be left holding the 'bag' / get blamed when things descend into chaos.
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>>4594995 (You)
I feel like you're relying on a lot of unfounded assumptions, and I completely fail to understand your logic in some places.

>>4594998 (You) [1]
I agree with your conclusions in this post

>>4595000 (You) [2]
Maybe there can be many heirs to a bloodline, and Caylen fits. Then choosing him is logical since access to him is much easier than to Irue.

But that would imply that they have some way to confirm, that the current Main branch all died in the Behemoth attack, otherwise they would have come for 'Irue'; the mistake was probably made because Clara was/is currently the 'acting' head of the House since we are/ were under age at the time.

>>4595002 (You) [4]
>I think the best way to proceed would be to come clean to Clara
I'm inclined to agree

>>4595002 (You) [4]
>how the Tier's managed to get a Behemoth into their estate... without being noticed
I don't think they had to hide. Capturing Behemoths doesn't seem to be against the law.

If it was widely known, the Valen main branch would probably have a backup plan in place since there would be little in the way to stop it, and it should have already been in progress, since either they knew it was there and there was no body recovered when the Tier estate was destroyed, which means they now have a very dangerous Behemoth, loose and they really need to find it soon. Or they knew it was there and yet isn't so they know something is going on.

>could traded to the Crown [4]
The Crown might be working together with Artemis, or at least have the same goals. We really shouldn't assume anything about the Crown's intentions, given how weird their actions so far seem.

If they were working together they wouldn't be focusing so much on fining the Brother's descendant, and the crown probably wouldn't be going to such extreme lengths to track peoples movement in order to find the descendant first.

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>>4595004 (You) [5]
>Something else that we could offer up, in return would be to provide our assent to be married off.
Implying Clara wants that. It was heavily implied in the writeups that the marriage deal was a ploy to spur Irue into activity.
Also if we marry we lose the control of the House.
We would also get some say in how the country is run to some degree, it would be somewhat of a step down but we aren't the head of the Valen house quite yet and so would be a step up from where we are right now.
from Clara's point of view it is probably some combination of getting Irue somewhere safe away from possible distractions, increases the likelihood that the main branch survives when things go wrong and mollifies the Landed Nobles for a little longer

>>4595007 (You) [6]
>Sufficiently damaged infrastructure could be used as cover to reassert temporary Valen Stewardship
As soon as it becomes known we build the dam in the first place, it's over for us. And all it takes is one Luna Adept thinking really hard about why such an unnatural floor happened. Or one of our knights having family down there and not wanting them to die. Or an Artemis spy adding two and two together.
Also what assistance can we provide to two towns when we can't even restore Carona? And do Sylv and Resuri even belong to the Valen territory?

The method of construction of the dam could be done by Aegis or Lily with Ari or our own guidance by growing a tree to sufficient size to Dam the river and having it drop / fall into the river.
>To some degree it would be a deliberate / slight tip off to the Shrine that something is up and needs investigating proving, that the Seal is being 'actively ' watched / protected by something.
The construction of the Dam could happen entirely without their knowledge, and I don't think that it would kill anyone since it isn't flowing fast enough and so wouldn't rise all too much, since it can be forded in some locations and so would only inundate the fixed infrastructure to use the river.
> Artemis isn't really a concern since they want Dryad awoken and so won't get in it's way and already practically own the area already and would struggle to even match the aid that the Valen house could probably provide without it being noticed.
Assuming that they have functional leadership the towns would likely just ask the Valen's for assistance since it is the most likely source of aid, and if they don't they can just deal with it, which will mean that Artemis operations, operatives and supplies can't come that way while they rebuild.
>Since they are on the map I would assume that they either are in Valen territory, or heavily rely on trade with Valen aligned towns and so wouldn't say no to having an overseer sent along to streamline supply requests.

>>4595010 (You) [8]
>the Hybrid
Who?
Aegis after eating the Behemoth.
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>>4595623
Anon, I've made my share of long posts, but if you want anyone to read through all this and understand what you're saying, you gotta do some self-editing before posting. This is frankly a mess. The quoted posts don't even make any sense relative to what's under them.

>Aegis after eating the Behemoth.
Oakenrue is killing the Behemoth, not bonding with it or something. After it's done, it might be changed in some manner, but that's the extent of it.
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>>4595681
Again, this originally started to be written over a somewhat long period of time ago, around 2~3 threads, and has been sporadically cutdown and rewritten with many slight additions and removals.

Il see if I can improve the readability of the response shortly.
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>>4595000 [2]
>Maybe there can be many heirs to a bloodline, and Caylen fits. Then choosing him is logical since access to him is much easier than to Irue.

But that would imply that they have some way to confirm, that the current Main branch all died in the Behemoth attack, otherwise they would have come for 'Irue'; the mistake was probably made because Clara was/is currently the 'acting' head of the House since we are/ were under age at the time.

>>4595002 (You) (You) [4]
>how the Tier's managed to get a Behemoth into their estate... without being noticed

>I don't think they had to hide. Capturing Behemoths doesn't seem to be against the law.

If it was widely known, the Valen main branch would probably have a backup plan in place since there would be little in the way to stop it, and it should have already been in progress, since either they knew it was there and there was no body recovered when the Tier estate was destroyed, which means they now have a very dangerous Behemoth, loose and they really need to find it soon. Or they knew it was there and yet isn't so they know something is going on.

>could traded to the Crown [4]

>The Crown might be working together with Artemis, or at least have the same goals. We really shouldn't assume anything about the Crown's intentions, given how weird their actions so far seem.

If they were working together they wouldn't be focusing so much on fining the Brother's descendant, and the crown probably wouldn't be going to such extreme lengths to track peoples movement in order to find the descendant first.

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>>4595001
>Artemis is still sanctioned by Luna
Luna and the Luna Dominion should be considered separately. The Dominion publicly acknowledges Artemis as something between an offshoot of the Dominion and a coalition of similarly interested/favored individuals. Privately, you're not entirely sure what their relationship is.. Other than that the Shrine and Artemis themselves have taken staunchly different approaches.

The Luna Dominion, and by extension the Shrine as a whole, have no say in what a Mana does or does not do. That Artemis remains full of capable Luna adepts despite their suspected leanings implies nothing about how the Dominion sees them. What you feel this says about Luna is to your own discretion.

>wouldn't that have a significant impact on the opinion / position of the pillar's duality
I'm not completely sure what's being suggested here, but how Dryad was sealed was covered a bit in the Atelier itself. As a Mana it couldn't have been suppressed, so before it could be suppressed it had be diminished. This is one of the results and purposes behind the genocide of Dryad's adepts - To inflict a severe mental, and emotional, scar on Dryad. Something grievous enough to shake the Mana from its Clarity, and in doing so force a demotion from "Mana" to "Aeon".

You have previously learned that Aeons exist somewhat on a sliding scale. Humans who hone their Mana's favor enough eventually reach a point where only specific events, hang-ups or principles in their lives remain firmly lodged into their being. Those things prevent them from obtaining proper Clarity, and in doing so sublimate into the Mana itself. Ergo, just as a human who gained sufficient favor might become an Aeon, adjacent to the Mana and disconnected from its transcendence, so to could a Mana theoretically be wrenched from its divinity and deposed of its once crystal clear Clarity.

>>4595010
>See if we can find the Slave Trader could help us track down and / or recover the Tier sisters
This was actually the answer to a Forgetting a little while back. It was also the answer to a different Forgetting a lot longer back.

>Although they and their family are likely Artemis affiliated, since they turned up to our Rite hanging off Caylen's arms.
The Tiers are one of only two families the Valen lineage has ever held as retainers. While I won't rule out Artemis infiltration, they have every reason to be loyal to the Valens and on friendly terms.

>>4595620
>Capturing Behemoths doesn't seem to be against the law.
It's not. Ill advised, sure, but not illegal.
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>>4595004 (You) [5]
>Something else that we could offer up, in return would be to provide our assent to be married off.

>Implying Clara wants that. It was heavily implied in the writeups that the marriage deal was a ploy to spur Irue into activity.
Also if we marry we lose the control of the House.

We would also get some say in how the country is run to some degree, it would be somewhat of a step down but we aren't the head of the Valen house quite yet and so would be a step up from where we are right now.

from Clara's point of view it is probably some combination of getting Irue somewhere safe away from possible distractions, increases the likelihood that the main branch survives when things go wrong and mollifies the Landed Nobles for a little longer

>>4595007 (You) [6]
>Sufficiently damaged infrastructure could be used as cover to reassert temporary Valen Stewardship


Going to break this one down a little bit, hope it helps.

>As soon as it becomes known we build the dam in the first place, it's over for us.

The method of construction of the dam could be done by Aegis or Lily with Ari or our own guidance by growing a tree to sufficient size to Dam the river and having it drop / fall into the river and since no one knows about Dryad linking it back to us would be difficult if they weren't present for Aegis's fist appearance.

>And all it takes is one Luna Adept thinking really hard about why such an unnatural floor happened.

To some degree it would be a deliberate / slight tip off to the Shrine that something is up and needs investigating proving, that the Seal is being 'actively ' watched / protected by something.

>Or one of our knights having family down there and not wanting them to die.

The construction of the Dam could happen entirely without their knowledge, and I don't think that it would kill anyone since it isn't flowing fast enough and so wouldn't rise all too much, since it can be forded in some locations and so would only inundate the fixed infrastructure to use the river, it's not designed to kill anyone just be a massive inconvenience for a little while.


>Or an Artemis spy adding two and two together.

Artemis isn't really a concern since they want Dryad awoken and so won't get in it's way and already practically own the area already and would struggle to even match the aid that the Valen house could probably provide without it being noticed.

>Also what assistance can we provide to two towns when we can't even restore Carona?

Assuming that they have functional leadership the towns would likely just ask the Valen's for assistance since it is the most likely source of aid, and if they don't they can just deal with it, which will mean that Artemis operations, operatives and supplies can't come that way while they rebuild.

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>>4595729
>And do Sylv and Resuri even belong to the Valen territory?

Since they are on the map I would assume that they either are in Valen territory, or heavily rely on trade with Valen aligned towns and so wouldn't say no to having an overseer sent along to streamline supply requests.
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>>4595725
>Those things prevent them from obtaining proper Clarity, and in doing so sublimate into the Mana itself

Since Dryad isn't home right now, would a sublimated Aeon, take control of the aspect and ascend?

Looks like a new job for Ari or Irue, if we can't mange to free the fragment.
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>>4595737
You don't know. The concept that a Mana can be wrenched from divinity in the first place is essentially heretical to consider, much less if it's possible to outright steal one's position.

That said, Dryad is still the source of Dryad's favor, and so anyone who followed Dryad's path would inevitably end up where Dryad is. To hone your communication with a Mana you meditate to gradually reshape your thoughts, values and judgements to reflect that Mana - Thus if the Mana itself has lost that essential Clarity, aligning yourself with it would only lead you to the same conclusions it had already reached.
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>>4595744
So the 'seal' is working solely because it is actually replaying that moment that reinforces the 'Memory' fragment's focus on hate and its want for vengeance, and is keeping it away from escaping and reestablishing itself.

It getting angry enough to wake / break the 'seal', would either forcefully change Dryad's nature, or leave the 'memory fragment' demoted to an Aeon which would likely either dissipate or be massively limited in scope.

If we still have access to Elly or her brother we may need to go and visit again to see what they say.
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>>4595759
"solely" is a dangerous assumption. The prison was a large piece of magic involving the entire spectrum of adepts to some degree, and was built to contain a God. We have no idea as to the nature of its construction. All we know is that the purging of Dryad's adepts was needed to remove infection vectors and "wound" Dryad such that it could be contained, and that part of that containment involves replaying the purge.

>spoiler
Even if we could convey what "would" happen, I'm afraid all that would do is give them an existential crisis for that loop.
If we every gain access to the loop again, I just want to hang out with Tim for a loop or two. Dude's solid.
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>>4595904
>Even if we could convey what "would" happen, I'm afraid all that would do is give them an existential crisis for that loop.

It would be geared towards finding out, more about where Dryad should be in order to recenter them, and who we are supposed to be contacting now that the seal is failing.

If this fails we may benefit from bringing along a sacrificial Luna adept (that I would prefer isn't Mim.) and seeing what they can piece together.

>If we every gain access to the loop again, I just want to hang out with Tim for a loop or two. Dude's solid.

Would not say no, it could be used to calm down once we get through the harder stuff.
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>>4595620
>But that would imply that they have some way to confirm, that the current Main branch all died in the Behemoth attack
What I meant by multiple heirs was multiple simultaneous heirs - i.e. anyone with the Valen blood will do, regardless of whether they're the heir from the legal point of view. After all, what does Mana care about human laws?

>the crown probably wouldn't be going to such extreme lengths to track peoples movement in order to find the descendant first
Are they doing that though? What are your sources?

>>4595623
>from Clara's point of view it is probably some combination of getting Irue somewhere safe
If Clara wanted us somewhere safe, she wouldn't have proposed the marriage in the first place. Irue was squarely hidden away in her manor.

>To some degree it would be a deliberate / slight tip off to the Shrine
To what purpose?

>wouldn't say no to having an overseer
If they belong to some noble's lands, I'm sure that noble will strongly object. It might be even seen as an act of war. Which it actually is.

>Aegis after eating the Behemoth.
You keep being sure that this is a thing that works in a way you think it works, without any foundation.
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>>4595939
>What I meant by multiple heirs was multiple simultaneous heirs
Calen isn't currently in the line of successors, until we die

What are your sources?
It was a forgetting that we figured out that we put together # 47 and 47a in the list.

http://pastebin.com/kPEscJ3h

>Irue was squarely hidden away in her manor.

The surrounding area would likely come under attack, regardless of the side chosen since the majority of the House Valen's leadership lives nearby.

>To what purpose?

To hint that things are going down to those in the know, in the background / the seal is failing and that it needs to be investigated, without directly telling anyone anything and potentially spreading the infection.

>If they belong to some noble's lands.

if this is the case just build a canal lock on the river to prevent ease of access.

> way you think it works

The Behemoth has a strong Wisp signature, and so would be viable target for mana consumption / conversion by Aegis, this would impower Aegis to some degree, if it is successful.
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>>4595963
>Calen isn't currently in the line of successors, until we die
Did you read the sentence you quoted to the end?

>It was a forgetting
That doesn't say anything about a descendant. Though it does sound probably.
Also, we didn't figure out that forgetting, the pastebin says as much.

>To hint that things are going down to those in the know
Those in the know are likely limited to Artemis.

>The Behemoth has a strong Wisp signature, and so would be viable target for mana consumption / conversion
Different Manas are antitethical to the point that feeding people Dryad mana flushes out any other. I don't think consumption/conversion is possible.
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>>4595963
>The surrounding area would likely come under attack,
By who? Why?

You want to dam the river? We're struggling to scrape together the materials and manpower to rebuild the town! Dam design and construction is not a simple or quick task, either.

>build a canal lock on the river
canals can have locks because they are artificial structures, and thus have no current. Trying to install a lock on a river would turn it into a dam. And no, an already damed river wouldn't work, for the same reason.
And ignoring little things like physics, water rights are hardcore serious business to medieval folk. Water is needed to live, and grow crops. You screw with someone's access to a river, you're looking at war.
And ignoring that, a river blockade/checkpoint would be extremely strategically important, and thus would have to be heavily defended.

>The Behemoth has a strong Wisp signature, and so would be viable target for mana consumption / conversion by Aegis, this would impower Aegis to some degree, if it is successful.
This is not a logical chain. This is speculation.
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>>4595744
Speaking of pastebin, they've apparently been going through something of a purge recently. I don't expect this quest to have problems, but I only know about this because I've heard complaining elsewhere about false positives.
Make sure you've got local copies of everything in the 'bins.
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>>4595977
>Did you read the sentence you quoted to the end?
I guess it depends on if the Valen-Fae compact is an actual written document, and / how it works.
If Artemis knows about the agreement, they would likely be looking to find a loop hole, so they may not have been able to reach 'Irue' but could reach Caylen, and so will have had to make do, though they have had at least 10 years to figure out a solution.

>That doesn't say anything about a descendant.
I think it was put together by others later on, that it would provide a legitimate cover for the Nobles looking for new leadership, and for Artemis to secure control over the new regime.

>likely limited to Artemis
If that were the case how did they mange to get away with it, there would have to be some low level of knowledge held by the Shrine to allow them their assumed freedom from oversight.

>Feeding people Dryad mana flushes out any other.

Which is why Aegis should be able to complete their task if it doesn't wake up and if it does it will likely be made significantly weaker because of the process.
If we do end up getting Dryad to heal Cara, she may be reduced in effectiveness in combat for a significant period of time.
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>>4595978
When The upcoming Civil War starts they are likely to attempt to remove pockets of resistance early on,based off the map Valen lands are naturally hemmed in by the mountains to our north and the forest to our east, providing an easy target. like the House Valen Leadership in order to throw the Crown's defenses on a Strategic level into disarray, since without House Valen to guide the other hoses the crown may find it difficult to find support among the Nobles.

>build a canal lock on the river
It would be mostly for Early warning, and keeping tabs on river traffic and not primarily for diverting / holding water or keeping people out, it could also be maned by a Dryad mana construct posing as a tree or something else innocuous.
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>>4594981
>>4594985
>>4595094
Finding Miska! Kind of worried you haven't seen her.

>>4594995
Dryad meditation time!

>>4595167
Time for Rinnier!

>>4595263
Early bed!

Alright, let's see what we can do!
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>>4595985
I heard about this. Everything was copied over from local files anyway so it's not a huge loss if something does get nuked.
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But exhausted as you were, you kept on your feet. You still wanted to at least find Miska before calling it a night, even if you weren't going to approach her right now. The fact you'd toured your guard and just not run into her at all was a little unsettling. "Miska did come with us, right?" You turned to Rinnier for confirmation before you set out.

"Yes. You saw her before we left, remember?"

"I haven't seen her since, though." The ghost of a frown flickers across your face. "I spent most of the day walking around and didn't see her at all."

"...Were you looking for her?" Rinnier's brow raised.

"Not exactly. I wasn't searching for her, but I thought I'd at least have noticed her along the way."

"Hmm..." Rinnier's hand drifted across her chin, musing with a furtive hum. "She's here, you may have just missed her. She should be... Our left wing?"

You take a moment to orient yourself. Left wing, facing forward that was... She would have been in the last group of knights you'd wandered into. Knowing the knights had set camp in a way to keep formation made tracking them back down a simple enough affair. "Alright, thanks Rinnier."

"Wait." The red-haired Testament called you back, settling near a gnarled trunk as a backrest. "What are you going to do?"

It was a good question. One you didn't have any particular answer to. But, rather than find a pretext... You offered her a shrug. "I don't know yet. Probably nothing, at least not tonight. I wanted to see how she was doing and got worried when I never stumbled across her earlier."

Rinnier's eyes closed, evidently accepting the answer for what it was. Whether it was what she wanted to hear, or just an acceptance that you'd do it anyway, she seemed fine leaving it at that. You waved as you left, calves protesting at being asked to keep going when rest was so blessedly close. You'd gotten used to the little aches traveling seemed keen to leave you with, so they could complain just a little longer.
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The left-most wing of knights were the ones you'd left the heaviest news with during the day, and you could still somewhat feel that as you moved back through the handful of them. Dusk brought with it a somber mood, but you kept your chin up and tried to not make a show of yourself as you glanced around. Some of the faces you recognized, some a little less so, and true to Rinnier's word, it didn't take you very long to find the knight you were looking for in the first place.

Miska had spent little time in resting once the day's march was called, sprawled out in the roadside grass to watch the first stars start dotting the sky. From a distance there wasn't much else you could tell; she didn't appear distressed, yet compared to the bombastic personality you'd come to associate with her... Seeing the knight quiet at all was queer.

So finally it raised the question of what, exactly, you came here to do. If it was only to find Miska for the night, then you'd done that well enough. Did you have anything to say? Was there anything to say? You had questions floating around with no dire need for answers, concern that you weren't sure where to place or how to address. You didn't know her, not like you could claim to know Rinnier, Ari, or even Dullem. But you knew her, you knew her face, you'd been affected by her enthusiasm. You were simultaneously too close to not be concerned, but too far away to meaningfully reach out. Fen had been more a part of Rinnier's life than yours, but he'd been tangential enough to you that you still felt his absence by proxy.

So maybe Rinnier was right and there wasn't anything to say. She was a subordinate, your knight, and you were the person she'd sworn her loyalty to. You could offer your condolences, make an effort to check in on her, and then leave her to sort through her own grief.

...And if you tried offering anything beyond that, you'd be overstepping that line.

Didn't make it any easier finding a place for this awkward... Responsibility? Concern? Whatever it was. On some level, you felt like this was something you were going to have to learn to handle now, because you wouldn't be able to claim responsibility for their lives and not see this same circumstance repeat itself in the future.

So what was it going to be?

>?
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>>4596130
>Ask how she'd doing, offer condolences, let her air her grievances.
I'm a complete shit at talking to people, don't follow my example.
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>Nothing
I don't think anything we might say could help her at all. Save of spontaneously promising to bring Fen back to life.so wats the point
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>>4596146
You can do that if you want.
Just say the word.
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>>4596147
Noooooo
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>>4596130
I don't see this ending well no matter how we approach this, it's far, far to soon to be doing this. Without seaming like we are just providing platitudes and feigning what limited surface level concern for her we can even be bothered to dredge up Like we totally are, we need to wait for her to work through / compartmentalize her feelings and make the first move here;
Otherwise we risk overstepping very easily, and so we should probably wait until after we have asked for our knights to volunteer for roles for further specialization / harder training to belter gauge how she is feeling and act accordingly.

>Now is likely not the time, retreat and bide our time in order to come up with a better way to approach this so it doesn't seem like we are cornering her, or doing it solely out of a sense of duty.

Since we are on a role with bad examples, of what not to do.
> See why she thinks Fen died Correct her if we need to, explain the situation, about the upcoming civil war and some factions getting started early., and what should have been done to save him. Allude to the possibility of a Dryad / Fae heal, only after she is upset, and not thinking straight. Please don't actually do this.
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>>4596149
Didn't experience teach you not to give Riz joke write-ins?
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>>4596151
It literally says to not use it at the end, and they would have to ignore the actual vote in the response.
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>>4596158
It has happened before.
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>>4596161
It still won't have been the dumbest thing we would have done.
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>>4596130
>?
I'm tempted to quietly go lay down next to her and just be there for her for a while. But the other anons are right, this is not Rue's wheelhouse at all, and we're as likely to make things worse as we are to make them better.
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>>4596130
>Ask how she'd doing, offer condolences, let her air her grievances.
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Yooo, is this live? I haven't seen this quest since the end of 2019, I think. Jesus, this years been fucking busy for me.

I'll vote a bit later, but, Riz, I just want you to know that I have dreams and nightmares about this quest. Valen Quest is a hell of a drug, dude.

But yeah, you're pretty good at this writing stuff. Hope you continue writing even after this quest is done.
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>>4596203
Welcome back! I imagine writing is something that will stick with me all my life, in one form or another.

Valen carries on until it's finished, its players lose interest, or the site dies. I just hope people are still enjoying it after so long.
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>>4596205
>I just hope people are still enjoying it after so long.
We wouldn't come back for the annual threads if we didn't. It may stress us out on occasion, but that makes the few victories all the sweeter.
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>>4596130
Alright. I'm caught up.

>Nothing

She needs her alone time, I think. Hopefully some of the other Knights can help her.

On that note, maybe nudge the other Knights to... look after her a bit. Just let her be, but keep an eye on her.

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As for losing the pack, shit. We lost our sledgehammer. Damn. To think, if only we took Kara instead of Raid on the Wisp adept hunt...

Really regret voting for that now. Ah well, whatever.

At the very least our Knights our going to get some training and (hopefully) weapons to become our new sledgehammer.
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>>4596205
This is my favorite quest of all time
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>>4596130
Just let her know that we care, and are there if she wants to talk about it. Apologize for not being able to have done better, we're trying our best but it never seems quite good enough and we keep fucking losing people and it's shit. Just fucking shit.

We're going to make the people responsible fucking pay for it, though. Nobody gets away from hurting our people. Nobody. We're going to drag this conspiracy out into the light and the people behind it are going to fucking burn in it.
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>>4596371
>we're trying our best but it never seems quite good enough

Well that is part of why we planned for some volunteers to come along with us so they can be trained.

We can't really be everywhere, and we'll see a lot less losses the more capable our Knights are. 'Course, some of them will have to be marked as non-combatants if not all of them want to do the training.

I'm sure we'll find some jobs for them in Carona. It's not like Carona has an overpopulation problem.
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>>4596140
>>4596178
How you doin?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnyhOjSqQkw

>>4596146
>>4596149
>>4596163
>>4596312
You did what you came here for.

Alright, let's see what I can get done before sleeping!
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...No, you'd already done what you came to do. Miska was here, nothing unusual to worry about. Crimson eyes drifted shut, and you took that awkwardly squirming feeling in hand with a simple breath. Inhale, and accept where you stood. Exhale, and remember that you couldn't solve everyone's problems. The grass shifted underfoot as you turned away, leaving Miska to her quiet.

Rinnier greeted you with slightly upturned eyes and a carefully neutral line drawn from her lips when you found your way back to the center of the escort. "How'd it go?"

"It didn't." You allow yourself a tired grumble, past the point of putting up airs around the former princess. "I found her, thought about what I'd say... And then didn't. It's not my place."

"Mm..." A subdued humming agreement lilted from Rinnier's throat. She rested her head against the tree behind her, eyes drifting shut in the process. When she spoke again it was with a quiet murmur. "...You did the right thing, Irue."

"I listened to you." You return. "She's my subordinate... I can't try to solve everyone's problems. There are things I just..." Your hands raise, grasping at the air with upturned palms before slacking back to your sides. "...Can't fix as their lord."

"That's what I said, but it's what you did." She agreed with a defeated admission. "...I could have stood to take my own advice."

"Hm?" You shift your gaze aside to the resting Testament.

"You probably missed Miska because I called her over to try and talk." Rinnier's shoulders drooped. "I made a mistake."

"Despite being the one who said it in the first place?" Your brow arched. Of course you wouldn't have run into Miska if she'd been called out, but... "That's not like you."

"I worked with Fen for months." She sighed. "He was a quick study. Sharp. Detail oriented. I couldn't have asked for a better assistant, and I sorely needed one with everything going on... I'm dreading trying to replace him, but I know I'm going to have to."

"You would have been closer to him than me." your weight shifts, resting your uninjured hand on your hip. "...I figured you would miss him too."

The faintest of smiles tugged at her lips, not quite making it through the somber rest she'd resigned herself to. "I'd already made up my mind not to approach her. She's a subordinate, and I should respect that line. Then the day dragged on, and the thought kept coming back to me: She's probably alone now. I thought the least I could do was offer a place to air her feelings."

A tiny little knot sunk in your stomache. For once it wasn't apprehension, but the miserable little feeling wasn't any more pallatable.

"I miss Fen, but I'm going to replace him." Rinnier confessed. "Miska won't."
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You drew in a deep breath and let the conversation dwindle away. The two of you fell into a companionable, if melancholic, silence once she'd said her piece. It was rare to see Rinnier make mistakes, much less on terms like these... And eventually, curiosity got the better of you. "What happened?"

"...Nothing." Rinnier shook her head lightly. "I asked how she was doing and she assured me she was still fully committed to being a knight. Told her I was available if she needed to talk..." Bitter laughter followed under her breath, "She thanked me for it."

"..You weren't going to tell me when I asked about finding her?" You shifted course partially.

Rinnier leaned forward, resting her elbows on her knees as she peered up at you from the grass. "I thought about it." She admitted, "Figured you deserved to make your own decision over it. It's a lesson you needed to learn sooner or later about leading, so it'd make a good experience either way."

"And you?"

Her eyes held yours for a long moment. Thoughtful, frustrated, hard. The familiar walls you'd crashed against months ago... And then a crack, and something softer underneath. "Sometimes you'll get reminders about things you already learned. They're no easier the second time around." The staring contest broke, your Testament resting her chin in hand. "...Or the third."
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She turned in not long afterwards, bidding you a decent night's rest before she went. You planned to turn in early yourself, but a little later - You still needed to introduce Lily, in a manner of speaking. Her nature was best kept a secret, but you wanted your knights aware of her existence in case something happened that necessitated asking the cheerful little child to intervene.

Requisitioning a knight from nearby, you rounded up four total couriers to carry your message back out to the four points of the escort group: As a little extra insurance tonight, to help them keep an eye on things while rotating watch, you'd be making use of a fae gift or two.

Nothing to worry about. Don't be surprised if it's a little curious.

...You wondered just how seriously they'd take that message, seeing as how the messengers tasked with carrying it back had chuckled when you told them. You settled into the grass and waited, letting the minutes pass while your thoughts tangled through and brushed against the Apparition's own. Innocent excitement brimmed from the mask perched atop your crown, an adoration for travel and the countless faces and voices she'd quietly encountered.

Mm, and it took no convincing to get her onboard with spreading through the camp to introduce herself, so to speak. She'd get to keep watch through the night and play a little with the people she'd met... So long as she behaved herself.

You'd say that mischief was prohibited, but you weren't totally sure she knew what mischief was, much less how to deliberately cause it; trying to explain that concept to the child seemed like an unnecessary risk in introducing her to it in the first place, so you didn't.

Nestling the mask into the grass beside you, you left the little Dryad apparition to take root and roam as she pleased. Your knights had been given enough of a warning.

You settled back onto your sleeping roll with the fatigue of the day washing over you. The first of what was looking like several more days of travel, before something even more exhausting took your attention. You weren't exactly looking forward to it, or excited about how things were going... But it could be worse.

...Yeah, it could be worse.

Your eyes drifted shut, and with one last breath you finally let yourself relax for the night, taking small, nostalgic comforts in finding yourself under the stars again. It'd been a long time since you'd camped out like this with M R i n n ier t.
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...Your eyes snapped back open moments later.

Where in Shade's name was Ari? You hadn't seen her at all since this morning.

>No, it's fine. Dryad's favor made her the last person you needed to worry about in this group.
>Wake Rinnier, she was the last person to see her.
>Get Lily to try and track her down, the little Dryad apparition was already playing around camp.
>'A Spider's Web' could find her. And leave you rested for the morning.
>Other? (write-in)
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>>4597140
It really shouldn't matter, where she is at all but just in case since we don't this to happen over again.

>Get Lily to try and track her down, the little Dryad apparition was already playing around camp.

It should serve as a good trial run for Lily assuming Ari isn't talking already
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>>4597133
>"...You did the right thing, Irue."
I'd Forgotten about.
>"...Or the third."
Yeah.
Yeah, we're aware.
>It'd been a long time since you'd camped out like this with
Um.
An echo from the time loop experience?

>>4597140
>No, it's fine. Dryad's favor made her the last person you needed to worry about in this group.
We're not going trooping around looking for Ari AGAIN. Trying to find her has driven more than one story arc.
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>>4597149
>time loop experience
It would have to be, right?
I would agree that it is a Memory leak(s) from the the ancestor most likely, since it says Mint, not Tim or Elly.

No Idea what it means though, maybe it's the Bracelet doing more weird things.
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>>4597140
>Get Lily to try and track her down, the little Dryad apparition was already playing around camp

She doesn't have Aegis, and she was looking at the hills earlier.

I do trust Rinfer not to just let her go wherever, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut we might as well give Lily something to do while she stretches her... roots?

Also, we have to teach her stuff and we might as well start tomorrow. It'd be good if we already knew where she was.
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>>4597140
>Get Lily to try and track her down, the little Dryad apparition was already playing around camp.
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So a pretty heavy ice/sleet storm is supposed to come through tonight. Might lost power, might lose power for several days, might not lose power at all.

Moral of the story is if I don't update you guys for a couple days, assume I am sitting in the dark.
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>>4597726
>might lost power
I am ESL until at least three hours after I've woken up.
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>>4597726
We're not going anywhere. Take care of yourself.
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>>4597726
Be safe and maybe dedicate the day to stockpiling supplies?
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>>4597140
>Get Lily to try and track her down, the little Dryad apparition was already playing around camp
>Let at least one of our knights know what's up
They should have something to go off of at least when we inevitably get sucked into a time vortex or something

>>4597726
Good luck Riz, hope you don't freeze!
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>'Spider's Web' could find her. And leave you rested for the morning.
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>>4597138
>Get Lily to try and track her down, the little Dryad apparition was already playing around camp
>Let at least one of our knights know what's up
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>>4597144
>>4597161
>>4597190
>>4598330
>>4598498
A Spider's Web!

>>4597149
Ari'll be fine. Probably.

>>4598371
Lily! Find Ari, she's gone missing yet again.

>>4598498
>>4598330
Your knights were already warned about Lily, they'll be fine!

Writing!
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Mmmm yes very good
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>>4601095
I think you've mixed up the votes for Spider's Web and Lily.
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>>4601118
What do you mean?
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>>4601095
...Not sure if play on Web addiction or simple mistake.
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No mistakes or tricks!
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Your thoughts drifted reflexively towards 'A Spider's Web', but only in passing. You couldn't entertain the thought for long, if only because the time you'd lose weaving would likely sap away the whole of the night. Besides that, Ari was arguably the last person you needed to worry about in this procession: No one else here could attest to be a functioning Adept, much less to a Mana whose Throne was barely a stone's throw off. There was really no need to worry overmuch about her, even if she wasn't accounted for...

...Still, Lily was already playing amongst the camp tonight so it wouldn't hurt to ask. You shuffle about in your sleeping roll, rolling over to face the rooted down mask in the grass beside you. A small bead of amber gleams back at you, a trick of the light that none the less brought to mind the excitable child perking up at getting your attention.

"Where's Ari?"

The words escape with a yawn. Your mind was creaking to a halt like this, but just to be sure. Moments later, Lily is all too happy to report that the missing Testament was sleeping with the frontal division of your escort! Why? You don't know. Weren't going to question it right now, not when you'd already not been looking forward to convincing her to sleep elsewhere anyway. Your mind drifts and unconsciousness claims you swiftly.
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"̷G̢et ̕a̴ f́u̸ckin' ́mo͟ve̸ o͞n͠,̀ ̴pŕe̵tty̛ bo͡y! Rélic̴s̨ ̷don͟'̧t͟ grow ̡on̴ ͝t͡re̢es͘!̴"

You paused, tugging at the reins of your horse until you were confident it was snug. "͡Cąlm d̵o̢wn̸. ́We'͠ll ͞m̛ake ͞i̶t ͟w̧it͝h p̀le͞ńty of ti̶me͞."

"͞Did ͝y̷o͟u s͞a̷y͟ ̢so͝m̸éth̴i̶n͡g?" Her rambunctious voice yelled back from somewhere further up. You'd had just long enough to open your mouth before she decided the answer didn't actually matter anymore. "͝Ć'mo̡n, i͢f̶ we s̢crew͘ ͟aróunḑ ̴m̕uch ̴l̀on͟ger ́th̸at͠ At͝eli͝e͠r's as ̸g͞o͢o͝d as͠ g̵one!"̷

You shared a look with the horse. Back in town half a day and already saddled with trouble.

Well. Tim had tried to warn you.

A quick hand over your equipment assured you you were ready, leaving you jogging after the redhead whose company had imposed itself on you. "́We͞'d̡ h̡a͠v̨e ̢b͡een ͝h̡ere so͜on̸e̵r if̸ y̡o͟u̡ ̵had̷n̵'t͠ ́g͠o̡t̡t̷e̢n ̡uś ̸lo̢st. ͘Wh͡y̸ di̡dn't yòu͢ c͘h̨e͘ck t̨he ma̶p̷?"̶

"͡I̵ m̧emo͠riźed ̷i̧t͞.""̷ She retorted unequivocally. "And́ w̡e̕ ̷m͢ade̶ ͝it͡, didn't͘ w͝e?"̴

You cast a skeptic sideeye at your erstwhile companion. "You̡ gòt̢ us͘ lo͟s̛t̶ for a d͢ay ̢a̵nd͢ a͢ half.̸"̕

Crimson eyes rolled heavily, the shorter woman planting her hands on her hips to face you. "H́ey! ̢I remem̨b͞ered ̷a̧ll̷ th̨e͘ ̧lan̢dmarks͡, ̕i̴t̛ was̸ y͝our͡ ̸jo̕b to͜ ̵guide us to them! Yo̵u͟'re ͞sup̛p̨osed́ ͘to k͠now ̢tḩi̧s̨ ̨plac̵e͠ lik̛e the back o͞f͢ your h̛an̡d!"

"I ͘s̀ai̡d I̡'̢d͜ ͜b̵een ́he͝re͝ be̛for̵e̛, ͞n̛ot̕ ̕t̵hat̕ I ̕w̛as fa͟mi͝l͝ia͠r̢.̡"

"͢Ḿi͞nór detai͟lş.̛" A dismissive wave of her hand as she forged along. "W̵h͝at ͟mátter̛s is tha̧t ̶I͠ ͢a͡m a ge̢n̛įu͘s ̸a͞nd̷ ẁe're͞ her͝e ev̢e̡n a̕f͘te̛r̛ tho̧se j͜ackasse̷s͠ ̷sw̡i͢pe͞d̸ ̀t̡he͞-"̴ Her voice cut-off abruptly. You gave her a mildly pained look, silently assuming the part left unspoken. "-Any͡way,̀ ͢y̢o̕u shou͜ĺd be ̷gr̛ate̶ful yo̷u̕ gơt͘ t͘o ͞sp̛end a nigh͞t with ͠me͡!̵ ̕Ther̡e a͠r̕ȩ princȩs̨ ͟wh͡o͟ wo͟u͟ļd figh̀t f́or̸ ̢t̨hat p͠riv̶il̷ege, ̀y̢ou k͘n̨ow͢!͞"͢

You doubted that, but actually arguing the point seemed like it would get you nowhere. "̧W̴e͠'̀re ̸loo̧ki͠ng͝ f̵o͟r ͡a̷n eǹtr̸an̛ce ̨unde̸r͠gr͝oun̡d n͠ow, r̶i̶g̢h͝t?"͝

"T͘he̷r͘e IS̛ a̧n ͟ent̢r̸a͝nc̡e ̕t͘o t͟h͟e unde͞rg̀r͘o͟u̴nd, b͢u̡t̴ it́ w͠on'͘t ̛b͜e vi̛s̷ible͢ ͟u̡ņti͠l I t̶rigg͘e̛r͡ i͜t̵.̨"̕ She corrected, checking her own weapons in the process. "̡The̸ Fading͟ C̵it͡y ìs̴ wa̷i̶t̢i̷ng̛ so̧m͡ewh̨ere͢ b͜e̴l̶ow."

You took a knee, running your fingers gingerly over the disturbed ground. You weren't the first ones here. Not ideal, but there was nothing to be done about it now. "Wha͞t ͠ab͡out͡ this͢ o͝n͜e?͝"́
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"Oh?̴ O͜h!̕" Curiosity turned to excitement so quickly you hadn't even processed it before the fussy woman had hurried to your side. "͠Y̸ou're a̶ct̵u̴al͠ly ́pre͜tt̨y ̕us͟ef͘uĺ ̴s͞o͠m͝e͟tįm̵ȩs, ar̕e͟n͟'͟t̕ y̢ou?̷ ̷A͟i̡gh̷t ̴prett̴y͠ boy,̢ ͠l͞e͝t̢'s ̸g͝e͠t͟ ͟spelưnkįn͟g̕!̴ W͠e'̕r͟e̶ s̶teali͝n̸g͢ ͞t̸hat Relic͘ ́r͝i̴ght̨ ou͝t ̢fr͟o͢m͠ u͠nd͠er͠ ̴t͠he̛i̶r noses ͡a̶n̕d wrin͝ging̷ ͡eve̷ry̡ co̶ppér̸ ͜out̨ ͜o̷f t̡hose sh̷its͡. Th̸ey̢'̶l̨l͠ ̴be͢ ̨s̡or͘r̢y̧ ͟they̧ sţol̴e̢ ̴fro̶m us!̨"

Her being stolen from had turned into an 'us' at some point.

This bet had nothing to do with you, really, but you'd be lying if you said you weren't curious about an Atelier of such massive scale. To hear her describe it, it was like a city unto itself. You'd agreed to come along if, for no other reason, just to see it.

Still... While you were a fair hand with a knife out of necessity, you couldn't rely on your bow in cramped and dark places. Looking over your now stretching companion, you noted she didn't seem particularly well armed either. You turn back towards the pit, frowning at the preternatural darkness that kept you from seeing the bottom. "W͝e'll͢ b͘e at a͝ dis̸ad́vaǹtagȩ ͝d̨ơwn th͜e͠re̵. We s̵hou͡ld ̸m͘àk͘è ̢a̢ p̀lan b͠e̕f̛ore ̛we-̛"

"Áll̸ey-oo̷p̶!̷" A flash of vibrant red hair clouded your vision, obscuring the ear-to-ear grin and similarly hued eyes of your erstwhile partner as she made a running leap past your shoulder and disappeared into the black.

A beat passed, and you heaved a sigh before jumping in after her. What followed was a flash of-
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-Searing light, burning through your eyelids with the coming of morning. A quick disparaging thought cast towards Asche accompanied your first attempt to roll over and escape it, and not much later you'd sunken right back into a fitful, dreamless slumber.

The next you stirred it was due to noises you couldn't block out. Gradually rousing as they continued apace, not demanding of your attention but steadily, stubbornly, always there. It took a monumental effort to open your eyes of your own accord and blearily peer out from the safety of your cocoon to see what was going on, and what greeted you was the breaking of camp. A quiet affair, with the scent of breakfast - A smell of stew, the likes of which you'd grown to associate with your time in Carona - mixing with the earthy soil and still dew-moist grass.

Lily's amber core basked under the sunlight, the mask form she'd taken up oddly managing to look pleased with itself in a display you weren't convinced accessories could make. It wouldn't be until you started to push yourself into a sitting position that you'd notice the stray vines of ivy that had draped themselves over you at some point during the night, which now tumbled into your lap while you got your bearings.

No one was panicking, the camp wasn't overriden with wooden replicas of you, ivy hadn't sprouted like a thick moss to enshroud everything in eye sight... The morning was normal. Even the bits Lily had covered you with were sparse and manageable.

It was such an unremarkable thing that you continued sitting there in a fog just taking it in, half-lidded crimson eyes seeing without processing. People moved, their forms blurring together...

"Good morning, Irue."

...Your eyes drift shut, squeezing together as you raise a hand to rub the bleariness from them with a small yawn. "Mm..." Some form of acknowledgement rumbled out of your throat, one eye peeking back open to actually try and see who was talking to you. "...Ari?"

"Ari." She affirmed sweetly, holding out a cup of thin stew whose broth cast steam into the morning air. "I brought you breakfast!"

You took it in hand, feeling warmth spread through your fingers as you held onto the sippable breakfast. Slow to wake up, dragging your mind out of whatever abyss sleep had thrown it in, you brought the cup to your lips and let the self-same warmth spill down your throat and warm your body as well.

"Rinny says we're supposed to be ready to leave in another half hour. She left camp for a little while so everyone could put breakfast together before we go." Ari next to you on the ground, eliciting an immediate response from Lily in the process as the Apparition's affectionate ivy coiled about her.
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Out of camp... You let that sink in at its own pace. Right, they couldn't make fire with her nearby. It was one of the reasons you chose to stop nearing the evening rather than march later - They needed light to work by. At any rate, if she'd left to give them time to stir up breakfast then you doubted she'd eaten yet either. Not that this thin stew was much of a breakfast.

You take a long, slow sip from the cup. Some half-forgotten thing, slipping through your fingers when you tried to grasp it.

>Anything to ask Ari? (what?)
>Go check on Rinnier, you might be moving out sooner now that you were up.
>You've got a half hour, some time meditating wouldn't go amiss. (Which Mana?)
>Other? (write-in)

>Day 2/3
>The days blend together (Arrive at the estate)
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>>4602870
>Anything to ask Ari?
Did she sleep well?

>Other
Think on what to do with our Shade scar. Meditating to Shade only creates apparitions, and I have no other ideas.
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>>4602870
>Other? (write-in)
See what Lilly thinks of the surrounding area, the trip so far and her opinion of the knights so far.

The people in the interlude were most likely Mint (Red hair was an East Haven thing right?) and the Ancestor, maybe we should start removing it over night when we don't have Asche nearby, we should also let her know that these things are happening when we see her next.
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>>4602870
>Ask Ari how she spent her time yesterday
>Other? (write-in)
>Apologise to Ari for not spending time together like we said we would when we solved the Atelier, things kind of spiralled out of control and we didn't have much of a chance to talk about it
>Let Ari that she is more than sufficiently attuned to Dryad and ask her not to become attuned any further as it may be dangerous
>See what Lilly thinks of the surrounding area, the trip so far and her opinion of the knights so far.
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>>4602870
>Other
To tie in with >>4602877

We might want to review Ari on what she knows about shade.

>>4602883
>her not to become attuned any further

Bit harsh. I doubt she'll follow this. Maybe modify it to:

>not to do meditate on Dryad without our supervision

I think we have bigger problems to worry about, but I agree that we should at least be there to observe when she wants learn new stuff about Dryad or to try new things.

Let her know it's okay but she just needs to make sure it's under our supervision. This way, she doesn't try to hide it from us because she thinks we might disapprove.
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>>4602866
>...Still, Lily was already playing amongst the camp tonight so it wouldn't hurt to ask. You shuffle about in your sleeping roll, rolling over to face the rooted down mask in the grass beside you.
>Moments later, Lily is all too happy to report that the missing Testament was sleeping with the frontal division of your escort
Do I spy a faster and non-addictive replacement for the Web? At least in some fashion?


>much less to a Mana whose Throne was barely a stone's throw off.
Ah. We're getting bleed from our proximity to Dryad.

>"̧W̴e͠'̀re ̸loo̧ki͠ng͝ f̵o͟r ͡a̷n eǹtr̸an̛ce ̨unde̸r͠gr͝oun̡d n͠ow, r̶i̶g̢h͝t?"͝
>"T͘he̷r͘e IS̛ a̧n ͟ent̢r̸a͝nc̡e ̕t͘o t͟h͟e unde͞rg̀r͘o͟u̴nd, b͢u̡t̴ it́ w͠on'͘t ̛b͜e vi̛s̷ible͢ ͟u̡ņti͠l I t̶rigg͘e̛r͡ i͜t̵.̨"̕ She corrected, checking her own weapons in the process. "̡The̸ Fading͟ C̵it͡y ìs̴ wa̷i̶t̢i̷ng̛ so̧m͡ewh̨ere͢ b͜e̴l̶ow."
This seems like something important to Remember.

>No one was panicking, the camp wasn't overriden with wooden replicas of you, ivy hadn't sprouted like a thick moss to enshroud everything in eye sight... The morning was normal.
Progress!

>At any rate, if she'd left to give them time to stir up breakfast then you doubted she'd eaten yet either. Not that this thin stew was much of a breakfast.
Still, food is food.

>Some half-forgotten thing, slipping through your fingers when you tried to grasp it.
a recollection, instead of a Remembering? I have no idea.


>>4602870
>Go check on Rinnier, you might be moving out sooner now that you were up.
I feel bad for her missing out of breakfast.
Once we get on the road, I want to ask Lily about how things went last night.
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>>4602876
>Meditating to Shade only creates apparitions, and I have no other ideas.
Meditation only creates apparitions only when we're wearing the bracelet.
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>>4602870
>Go check on Rinnier, you might be moving out sooner now that you were up.
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We can eat cakes and drink ale when we reach the estate.
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>>4603014
In all likelihood the only party we would attend there would be Cara's wake if anything.

How in favor are we of attempting to use the Fragment to revive / heal Cara if something bad has happened?
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>>4603016
We will see later
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>>4603014
Patience is a virtue anon. Especially with this quest.

And we really need to talk to Ari more. We don't want her to end up like Kara.

It is good to now what our testament are up to.

I also do not look forward to tellin our aunt we lost one of our testament. That's going to hurt.
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>>4603267
Well I mean she lost a son and got killed by her own guard so she's not really in a position to lecture us about Kara.
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>>4603367
Kek. Point taken. But losing Kara would be more comparable to her losing her Nightmare horse thing.

Seriously tho, I'm hoping she's okay. 4d chess games aside, she's still our aunt. And she's pretty cool, all things considered.
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>>4603267
The trial is over anyway. They won't be our "testaments" forever. Kara can goo
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>>4603705
>They won't be our "testaments" forever.

I did expect the Kara and Rinnipeg to leave one day.

Because Rinny needs to lead her people and Kara needs her pack (I think?). But it was a bit to early of a goodbye for my taste. And it's definitely a waste since we know now that our knights might have made some progress working together with the demihumans.

The only testament who I can't see leaving is Ari. Unless she's got business elsewhere, she really has no where else to go or any responsibilities to attend to.

As for Kara leaving, hopefully we can find someone else to fight Aloutte. We might have to talk to the Shrine about that later or something. Maybe we can have Marko to do it in exchange for us doing something shade related. Or maybe someone knows where we can find our own adept mercenaries or something.
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>>4603747
If Clara was thinking straight, and didn't give up her initiative in the fight I think she would have had a better chance at defeating, or at least having it be more even loss against Aloutte.

If / when we take her to the fragment to get healed / revived it may even confer a bonus to round two, since her fighting style will likely be very different to what it once was.
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>>4603747
Uhh ok...
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>>4603816
Sorry for the typos, I'm on my phone.
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>>4603757
It does sound like a good idea. We might as well start using Dryad magic to our advantage, seeing as it's awake now.

Oh yeah, I hope you guys are willing to use Shade the next time we fuck up and we're cornered by a Wisp adept. The risks outweigh the benefits I think. We can't just lure them to the fragment like we did last time.
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>>4603842
As Lilly grows 'She' should help mitigate risks to our person, as long as we keep her around.
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>>4603845
On that note maybe we should see what she thinks of our wrist, if Clara can survive a trip back to the fragment.

Finding out where Dryad and Wisps responsibility's meet . overlap should be useful since there can't be much of a difference between Life and Health? and we might be able abuse the overlap somewhat and get some sort of benefit out of the situation.

The low levels of Wisp Mana that the healer detected are likely because of the Shade scar.
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>>4603705
>They won't be our "testaments" forever.
They will explicitly be your Testaments forever. Legally speaking each one of them is entirely capable of speaking in place of Irue and moving or commanding whatever resources/favor/debt Irue has. Similarly speaking, they can accrue debt and make enemies in your name as well. Whether you remain friendly to them, or even near them at all, has no bearing on this. They are permanently an extension of one's self in legal and political terms.

Anyway I've got some business tuesday so I'll be letting this set, but nothing else has come up so expect the vote to be called tomorrow night!
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>>4603845
It helps, but Dryad isn't exactly the most combat oriented Mana. And considering we aren't combat oriented either, we really need every advantage we can get in situation like that.

Of course, we want to mitigate coming into contact with a hostile Wisp adept. I just hope the next time we're on the ropes, anons are willing to bite the bullet.

>>4603865
>They will explicitly be your Testaments forever. Legally speaking each one of them is entirely capable of speaking in place of Irue and moving or commanding whatever resources/favor/debt Irue has. Similarly speaking, they can accrue debt and make enemies in your name as well. Whether you remain friendly to them, or even near them at all, has no bearing on this. They are permanently an extension of one's self in legal and political terms.

Well, at least Kara is to Potato to abuse this. Can't say the same about Raid.
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>>4603870
Let's hope Raid is not educated enough in legal matters to abuse this.
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>>4603899
Well we did tell him directly about it, right before he left. So it's only a matter of time before word gets back to us about someone claiming to be our testament and asking for confirmation.

It should help keep a lose track of them.
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>>4603865
Didn't know that. Upsetting to hear
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>>4603908
This was explicitly the plan.

Also most people don't dislike Kara. At all.

>>4603001
Can we heart with Lily and get her to manipulate the web with us?

>>4602883
Backing this. Also

> try to recall landmarks in the dream to locate the Atelier.

>>4602870
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>>4604230
That atelier has long been conquered.
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>>4604268
So? Doesn't mean it's gone. We conquered the Ice Atelier, but the spider ghost thingy was still there.

Maybe there's an Aspiration in this giant ass Atelier.

Don't we still need to handle the Shade Aspiration at Dryads shrine near our Aunts place? We ran into it on the way there originally, yeah?
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>>4605064
We solved the Ice Queen's Palace, not conquered it as is typical.
Even if it was solved and the guardian is still down there, what business would we have with it?
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>>4602876
How'd Ari sleep, anyway?

>>4602883
>>4604230
What was she up to yesterday, anyway?

>>4602883
>>4602891
>>4604230
Cease Dryading!

>>4602891
Quizzing Ari on... Shade?

>>4602876
voting to think about it is just going to end in me making you write-in what to do about it!

>>4602877
>>4602883
>>4602891
>>4604230
Did Lily enjoy the night? Did she behave herself?

>>4603001
>>4603008
Leave immediately to go find Rinnier!

>>4604230
What dream, anon?

Writing! Let's see what I can get done.
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>>4603006
This is correct, in case anyone was unsure. The bracelet is the catalyst to the creation of apparitions, it's not an inherent privilege Irue possesses.

>>4604230
>Can we heart with Lily and get her to manipulate the web with us?
No, or it would already be in place.

>>4605064
>We ran into it on the way there originally, yeah?
The abandoned Shrine is near Caylen's, which is in the opposite direction, but there is a Shade Apparition there, yes. Manifest Regret - Revenant. Given what you know happened there, you can wager a guess as to how dangerous such a thing born from that place would be.

As a bit of idle reminiscence...

Valen is a quest of connections, as i'm sure you've all become well acquainted with by now. That apparition is an interesting example of that, because its entire existence stems from the massacre of the Shrine of Dryad which the Founder participated in. You wouldn't come to realize that until significantly later. At the time it left you alone because it was satisfied with your resolve, but you never defeated it.

Its memory stuck with you, though. So much so that brushing against it became a seed which you'd later see sprout when your Doppleganger began taking on aspects of it while making their way through the Atlach Nacha outside the Ice Queen's Atelier.

The fact Irue held so many fervent and revisited regrets over Dopplerue isn't a coincidence. The influence that encounter had on you led to Dopplerue taking inspiration from it in order to take on its form for temporary strength; Regret grown from one's Insecurity. Something Irue would tap into for power themself slightly later.

Born from the massacre of Dryad's Shrine, a key part of which lay at the feet of the Founder.
An influential meeting for the scion of the Valen bloodline.
An inspiration for a fledgeling Apparition, trying to find its place in the world.
A familiar weight for a noble taking belated responsibility.
A devoted tender to the grave of a friend you only know from a memory.


There's still one last connection to be made.
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>>4605293
>Big spoiler

If I had to guess what the last connection was it would be, the unexpected loss of Family to a sudden and cruel turn of events.

Would the Shade sect of the Shrine be able to help us deal with it, somewhat safely or is that likely to reveal things that they probably shouldn't know. Would it be better to get the Wisp sect to help return it to the ether?
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>>4605305
>Would the Shade sect of the Shrine be able to help us deal with it?
If that's what you want, then categorically the Shade Dominion is the most apt at interacting with Shade.

>Would it be better to get the Wisp sect to help return it to the ether?
If that's what you want, then you are very correct in that Wisp is the most straight forward method of simply burning Shade out.

There's a lot of ways to approach it, if you even want to approach it at all. Rather than think of how it can be dealt with, you may be better served thinking of what meaning of resolution you want to reach for.
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>>4605293
>Its memory stuck with you, though.
Didn't we accidently have Luna wipe that memory not long after running across it?
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>>4605352
Luna took back memories that shouldn't have been there. You are aware that the Revenant is there, so you remember that you encountered it. You remember the nightgaunts abducting the camp, so you remember much of that night in general. Specific details - Namely the dialogue and echoes of that night which you would later relive in Dryad's Atelier - were blanked completely.

That said, it's been actual years since that thread so I may be off on the exact scope of Luna's forceful requisition. The above is what's kept in my notes though. Because it points to the loophole that things Irue has experienced remain valid, hence why Luna hasn't shown up immediately to take your memories of Dryad's Atelier, which were exactly the same sequence of events in even more clarity as the ones it took from you initially.
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>>4605355
>You remember Garet, rushing off before the Nightgaunts descended. You had rescued Maran from... somewhere. Lockdown...? You had rescued Maran from Lockdown, that's right. The brigands had put her there for causing a commotion.

>There was a haze that your mind remained shrouded in, slowly clearing, but as far as you knew you hadn't actually forgotten anything.

>So why did you feel like you had? What had you been doing that even-
>You wince, a twinge of pain shooting through your eyes
>-Kept you up this late? A bad dream?

Thread 10
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/41314317/
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>>4605379
My notes have betrayed me.
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>>4605383
That event has always stuck out to me, because it marked Luna as a bad idea for further meditation and unreliable in general. It also proves good on the threat that we can't get the Shrine's help with the disease without being mindwiped on the spot.


I don't know why this hasn't occurred to be me before, but I wonder if Luna was infected via Artemis? It would explain why Artemis is still recognized by Luna. Not sure what we could do about it if it is.
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Vain thoughts at capturing those fleeting grains swirled slowly through your mind. Landmarks... Places that stood out to you. Things vivid enough to remember. The forest trail, the split-trunk tree, the podium near overgrown, the scent of nostalgic spices in her wake as she'd rushed past you. You lingered around the last of those things most of all, trying to commit to memory something you had no name for.

Only after you'd caught yourself growing frustrated with the details melting did you realize it wasn't going to help you find the Atelier in the first place... And even if it did, the place was probably Conquered already. A twinge in your chest was shrugged off as you put the fading dream behind you and turned your attention towards Lily instead, running your fingers along the ridge of the mask in the process.

An absently expressed curiosity over whether she'd behaved herself last night brought back a flurry of proud sentiments. Excitement permeated the child as far, far too many things were brought to your attention at once - And an eyerollingly large amount of them were utterly meaningless to you.

Even still, a smile worked its way unbidden across your lips; Half-understood stories of the care and nervous energy that went into her self-assigned quest to poke each of your knights at least once in their sleep babbling incoherently through the bracelet's link. Investigation. Or so lay the determined feeling she insisted upon. Everyone had been thoroughly investigated.

You slipped the mask from the grass and held it up in the morning light, wondering just what she'd learned from all her investigations. A question, an inkling of thought that gave her pause; Serious, concerted effort to think casting a quiet over the youngest Dryad Apparition.

"If you talk it will probably scare them." Ari mused. Wait- You were suddenly much more awake.

"You can do that?"

"Do what?" Ari's dull brown eyes peered over at you.
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"Hear us." You held Lily between you for emphasis. "...Is she planning to try and talk to the knights?"

"Hmm... Mm." She tilted one ear up, closing her eyes for a moment before nodding. "I can hear her just fine. She was telling you about last night. Oh-" The waifish Testament sat up straighter, scooting a little closer in the process. "-Can you not hear it well? I can translate if you want! It was really difficult to hold a conversation when I was getting started too."

"No," you shook your head, slipping Lily across your crown and allowing the Apparition's ivy to immediately set to work coiling through your hair. "I can hear her, I was just surprised. I'd never thought about other Adepts being able to... Listen in." Something you'd probably need to keep in mind if you tried to use the bracelet on Mana around their Adepts.

"Oh. Well, sort of?" She brushed a finger through stringy brown locks not quite long enough to be properly tucked behind her ears. Most of it was held back by the hairband you'd given her, but several strands would still slip free. "She's very friendly."

She was. And you reaffirmed Ari's warning not to actually try and talk to your knights. The last thing you needed was for them to think you were sneaking around camp at night cursing at them.

Lily offered petulant complaints in return, which you set about ignoring for the moment. "Weren't you having trouble attuning with Dryad consistently?"

"Sort of?" Her shoulders sunk, preceding a troubled murmuring while she fidgeted and fished for the right words. "I make progress and I lose progress? And it keeps happening. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, so..." She flashed a tentative, hopeful smile. "Can you help me figure it out? Maybe I'm doing something wrong?"

...Without the bracelet, Ari was leagues ahead of you. The best you could offer at this point was theory for the other Mana, but she'd seemingly taken to courting Dryad's favor like it were simple intuition. Another frustrating example of the effort you wasted trying to earn their affection in the past; Though Dryad's own professed adoration for you made it all the more confusing that you still hadn't made much progress on your own merits.

"We talked about this before we left, but I think you should take a break from trying to attune any further." Rather than outright admit that she'd already far outclassed you, you opted to shift the subject. "At least not without some oversight. I'm not sure if there's any danger in opening yourself up like this."

"Yes, I remember." She answered dutifully, "So... When are we going to?"

"I'm sorry?"

"You promised to help before we left, but didn't come back." Ari held your eyes questioningly. "You brought a new Apparition back with you. Is that what you'll teach me next? How to make children?"
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Theoretically any Adept had the capacity to create an Apparition given the time, inclination, and desire. You doubted she needed you to do it in the first place; The talent and degree of favor she'd shown herself to have was part of what was worrying you in the first place. The more potent an Adept she became, the more thoroughly intwined with Dryad she would become... And she was already progressing at a terrifying speed.

"After I've done a little more research."

You tacitly avoiding giving her an actual date or expectation. You weren't sure when you'd have the opportunity to oversee her, much less if there was a way for her to continue safely at all... But even if there wasn't, it was too late to turn back now; Dryad had staked its claim.

"in the meantime, what were you up to yesterday?"

Her expression lingered blankly, something approaching malcontent murky in its pause. However her answer was already forthcoming - disconnected by a split second with the same warmth she'd greeted you with. "I'm up front now! Rinny's idea."

Part of the conversation you'd left on yesterday? "What was the idea?"

"She thinks I should try to be more visible?" Ari sat back with pensive frown. "She says that if I want to help more, I needed to start earning everyone's respect so they'll listen when I need them to."

"So you've decided to spend more time with the knights?" You couldn't fault that logic. You'd made rounds yesterday for similar reasons, after all.

"She suggested I start there." Ari's arms crossed. "Don't know why I have to sleep out there with them, though. It's fine if I just spend the day with them and come back at night, right?"

"...No, she's probably right." Not the least of which because it helped you avoid the conversation of keeping her from activating 'Hearts In Harmony'. "And it's not like she's singling you out, Ari. Rinnier worked hard to get their respect already." Odds are she commanded more outright respect than you did, honestly. They may have sworn loyalty to you, and the sort of awe and caution they treated you with was a sign of respect in its own right to be sure, but the kinds which Rinnier and you received couldn't be conflated. "I'm getting to know them too, so it's good advice."

"Then why aren't you sleeping up front?" She persisted tetchily.

you reach over and pet the frustrated Testament, cracking a small smile in the process. "I'm the lord, Ari. I have to be in the middle or it's not an escort."

"Hmph." Her chin jerked to the side uncooperatively, fingers curling anxiously around the hem of her shirt even as she leaned into your hand for more attention. "I don't like this."

You continued petting her while she sulked.
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Eventually her ill mood had assauged itself, and you'd shaken off the morning's sleep in the process. Finding Rinnier was first on your list of priorities this morning: Primarily to save time on breaking camp, but it seemed like you had a reason to thank her now as well. Ari, on the other hand, was reluctant to retake her post so soon. Rinnier's task was a good one, but she'd probably be more receptive if she had something else to occupy her attention on the trip.

With meditating off the table and none of your books in reach, this narrowed your options considerably. "You'll be back tomorrow morning, won't you?" It was a rhetorical question, meant more to reassure her than actually elicit an answer. How about...

>Give her a Mana to quiz her on. (Pick a Mana, tomorrow morning she'll do her best to answer a few questions about them)
>Give her a specific task among the knights.
>Suggest she try to learn something useful from the knights while working with them. (She'll do her best to pick up a skill of some sort)
>...On second thought, giving her another task might distract her from getting to know the knights.

"...Kay." She murmured resignedly, closing her eyes to nuzzle against your hand lightly. "Guess I'll head back."
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She pushed herself to her feet, unsteadily finding the ground under her before walking off with a more confident pace. You watched her go for a bit before stretching and pulling yourself up as well; Once her breakfast was acquired it was just a matter of finding your other Testament.

That, as it turned out, was incredibly easy. Picking out fire red hair in the middle of an empty road made asking for directions a moot point, much less an empty road flanked by verdant green. You took your time wandering out to her, leaving the din of the camp behind in the process until it was just a distant backdrop. Out here, the wind occasionally slipping past your ears was the loudest thing you could expect to be dealing with.

...Which meant it was no surprise that she turned back to face you sooner than it took you to reach her. The grit of the road beneath your boots doing more to announce your presence than anything else. Crimson eyes brightened a moment later, a dusky hand hand propped comfortably against her hip. "You're already up. That's great, we can get going earlier than I'd hoped."

"Figured." You passed over the prior acquired cup of thin stew. "Breakfast?"

"Ah..." The cup was warm to the touch, and by the way she wrapped her fingers about it you didn't need to know it was seeping into her much the same as it had you. "Thanks, I'd planned to catch what was left and eat on the way."

She stopped a step aside, quietly sipping at the broth, and for a minute your attention faded. Dissolved, somewhere, in a familiar norm.

>Since you had some privacy... (Bring something up?)
>Stay quiet. The silence was strangely comfortable.
>Best get to work. No need to wait around any longer than necessary.
>Other? (write-in)
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>>4606500
I wonder. If we could make an Aspiration to grow big enough to replace Dryad, since Dryad has shrunk, as the ID of Dryad.

Wouldn't that be a better resolution than a second mass murder?
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>>4606501
>"You brought a new Apparition back with you. Is that what you'll teach me next? How to make children?"

YANDERE INTENSIFIES! WARNING! WARNING!

>>4606503
>>Give her a Mana to quiz her on. (Pick a Mana, tomorrow morning she'll do her best to answer a few questions about them)

Wisp. Maybe learning what isn't Dryad by learning about the mana closest to it will let her indirectly understand it more. Us too.

>Suggest she try to learn something useful from the knights while working with them. (She'll do her best to pick up a skill of some sort)

I believe in Ari, that she can do two things! The Knights all had skills before, maybe she can find a skill she's interested in from them. Like stalking through the woods, or secretly killing animals, or stalking through a city, or stalking.

>Since you had some privacy... (Bring something up?)

Ask what she thinks about Kara leaving, how it got to that point, what we could have done different.
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>>4606509
The problem would be attaining the Clarity needed to ascend, and the Current Dryad fragment freeing itself would likely still cause bad things to happen since it has attained clarity once and so would be likely able to do so again once it fulfills it vendetta, as seen in >>4595744


>>4606503
>Give her a Mana to quiz her on. (Pick a Mana, tomorrow morning she'll do her best to answer a few questions about them)
Wisp, See what we both know, and maybe try and to intuit some answers.

>>4606505
>Other? (write-in)
See what Lily thinks of our wrist and if she can fix it.

We could probably use some more apparitions to help around Carona once (e.g. help increase the yield of crops grown, and more.) Trade starts to become more limited, thanks to the civil war.
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>>4606500
>Or so lay the determined feeling she insisted upon. Everyone had been thoroughly investigated.
heh. She's like a puppy; curious and excitable and earnest.
>Something you'd probably need to keep in mind if you tried to use the bracelet on Mana around their Adepts.
Ohh, a big neon sign flashing "Remember This!".
>Theoretically any Adept had the capacity to create an Apparition given the time, inclination, and desire. You doubted she needed you to do it in the first place
No way we're giving her more toys to play with; she's plenty powerful enough already, thankyouverymuch.

>>4606503
>...On second thought, giving her another task might distract her from getting to know the knights.
The whole point is for her to be spending time with the knights. That's subverted if we give her some other task to do.

>and by the way she wrapped her fingers about it you didn't need to know it was seeping into her much the same as it had you. "Thanks, I'd planned to catch what was left and eat on the way."
Sometimes, it's the little things.

>>4606505
>Stay quiet. The silence was strangely comfortable.
Nothing comes to mind to bring up and she seems to be in a contemplative mood. Plus, it'll give us a little longer to get our brain in gear; Rue doesn't wake quickly.
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>>4606503
>Give her a Mana to quiz her on.
Shade, because it's the mana we'll have to deal with rather soon.

>>4606505
>Since you had some privacy... (Bring something up?)
Has Rinnier ever brought up an Apparition?
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>>4606532
>See what Lily thinks of our wrist and if she can fix it.
yeeeeah, maybe not. She'd be enthusiastic, but I dunno if she even understands the concept of pain. Or bones, for that matter.
>spoiler
If it was that easy, the Shrine would have Apparitions running around doing all sorts of things. Sure, they're not aspects of Life, but every group in the shrine should have useful apparitions (except maybe for Wisp and Shade) if they were useable like that.
Also, that sounds like a powder keg.
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>>4606596
That's because the Shine's purpose isn't to help people just keep the Mana under control / unbalancing things the degree that has already been allowed.
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>>4606596
>>4606605
Also, they don't have a bracelet.
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>>4606648
You mean a bracelet that sears off part of our soul every time we use it to create an Apparition?
You're right, they don't.
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>>4606856
No pain, no gain. Besides, it grows back.

Bruh, we're fighting a giant weaponized memetic organization, possibly one or more nations, and Dryad might destroy the world.

If fixing the situation means burning some of our soul, which is slowly distorting into something unhuman *anyways*, assuming it ever was in the first place and not just a really good imitation of one, then I'm all for some occasional soul burning.
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>>4606989
>Besides, it grows back.
No, it doesn't. Thus the searing.

I'm ok with using Apparitions for emergency combat use. I'm not ok with mass producing the things for civil use.
As was very clear demonstrated by the destruction of the town, Apparitions made by the bracelet have the potential for explosive growth. And as shown by Aspenrue, Apparitions change rather dramatically over time. They are not cheaply producible powerful slaves. They have alien thought processes and understandings, and quickly gain the power to inflict their own wills on the world. Creating a bunch of them and scattering them around will literally sow the seeds of our ruin.
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>>4607026
Yes it does.

We went over all that with Asche and she said we had to wait for a while.

Besides, even if it did

> oh no, it's hurting us and dangerous! Sure don't want to mess the place/ourselves up just to stop the APOCALYPSE.
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In order to prepare for the next time we see Mim (Or call a meeting of all of the sect's leaders so we can explain ourselves once and rely on some of them to back up our claims) I collated a bunch of stuff that could be used to potentially defend our recent actions, and possibly incite the further involvement of the Shrine in Carona's future. The Censured version
> Relevant Threads are #72, 73, 74 and 75 looking back at #75, Asche clearly knows more than she is telling us. Maybe the Jinn stick could reach her
Probable things that we could bring up to prove that Artermis is doing stuff that they shouln't be.

- The Ice Queens Atelier, and it's implications on the Crown's mandate to rule; and therefore its implicit value in the aftermath of the upcoming civil war for cementing the rule of the new regime.

Why Carona is important to the Nobles Faction / Artemis since it would give them a easy way to have the various relevant restrictions imposed by the Crown, lifted.

- Maran, a confirmed Artemis agent attempting to sell the location of the Atelier to the Shrine, likely so it could be used as proof of the Nobles faction claim by having the Shrine verify their claims because they are a trusted / 'unbiased' 3rd party.

How Carona would be Useful to the Nobles Faction / Artemis, If / When the stated situation occurs.

- Wisp Paladin and the River encampment being found in the woods outside Carona, The details of the 'Call' we received / intercepted while investigating the camp, and the reason He / They would have to be out there.

They were likely there to assist the embedded agents escape after they had attempted to soften the town for an invading / occupying force but were caught early enough.

- Combined oddities that link the recent Hostage crisis to Artemis ( The Flare projector(s) found on the Hostage Takers, the riverside 'Bandit' camp, the crude Jinn based telephone stick thing, The Fire at the Tier estate and the 'Lost / missing' Behemoth.)

Far to much has happened for these to be not related, and are all probably part of a concerted effort to weaken Carona, and by proxy House Valen's ability to respond when more overt measures begin to be employed.
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>>4606512
>>4606532
We'll be quizzing you on Wisp later. Surely you can scrounge up a few answers?

>>4606589
Think about Shade, just for fun.

>>4606512
Learn skills! Expand your toolset!

>>4606581
Focus on getting to know the knights, no distractions.
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>>4606512
What does Rinnier think of Kara leaving?

>>4606581
staying quiet is preferable this time.

>>4606589
Has Rinnier raised an Apparition before? It's a valid question.
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>>4606532
Does Lily think she can fix our wrist? ...?
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So assigning Ari to try and recall what she learned about Wisp, poking Lily about our mangled wrist, and... We technically have 2 votes to talk against 1 to Depeche Mode.

Let's see what I can get done!
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Missed out on an update sheeit
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>>4607891
What would you have suggested we do?
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>>4607899
>What would you have suggested we do?
Maybe support showing Lily our wrist i dunno, it could be cool.
I was busy crawling through snow and couldn't be here
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>>4607911
I have a feeling why the medic couldn't fix it was the Shade scar interfering It could have also been Asche, since she keeps cockblocking us. with them attempting to focus the latent Wisp mana. If this works we manage to fix our arm. and Clara might be able to be healed regardless of her injuries, though she is a strong Wisp adept I think so what happened is likely to be horrific if she isn't dead or dyeing. or we have And if it fails we have more evidence that could be used to help figure out where the Wisp / Dryad boundary is. We know that it can fix dying people since our neck is probably no longer broken.
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>>4607929
>was the Shade scar interfering
I don't think it was the scar. The scar is purely emotional. Rue's got a general (if small) affinity for Shade itself, though, which I suspect is the culprit.
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>>4607936
Would that really be so much stronger than the average person, enough for the medic to comment on it needing a Wisp core to fix the injured Wrist.
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>>4607944
Considering our experiences with Shade, I suspect so, yes. Shade scaring isn't especially uncommon either iirc.
I feel like a Wisp healer should at least be aware of common reasons for their healing to not take, though, so I'm far from certain.

The easiest way to tell if it's something Shade-related would be to compare Wisp's ability to heal us pre- and post- ShadowRue, and see if we've had post- Wisp issues before the wrist.
Unless we've never attempted to have Wisp healing before, I guess. But we've been banged up enough we must have had one of them patch us up before, right?
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>>4607976
We have been healed by a Wisp adept several times, both pre- and post-Shadowrue.
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>>4607984
Hmm. That's unfortunate, as it rules out the simplest theory.
Could be the Foundation, I guess, but that seems unlikely.
Could be that the wound came from a Wisp source (somehow), but that's even less likely.
Could be the "Irue isn't human", but unless that's a recent change it doesn't match.
Could be "Irue is infected", but that's got the same issues.
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>>4608015
>last spoiler.
It's probably not the fact that she is infected since that seems like it would have been found when Artermis before the Seal was created and since in the tile loop the infection apparently has no symptoms except for being both obvious and that they would have noticed and it would be a somewhat easy test to perform.
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>>4607984
I suppose the question now becomes
when was our last successful Wisp treatment, and what has happened between that and the wrist treatment failure?
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>>4608056
We really need to track Irue's injuries better, so we can keep track of changes like this.

Possibly the Dryad revival + weird conversation between the two or more hangers on that 'Irue' apparently just has.
Or meeting Lily the first time with the Foundational 'shift' being constrained / no sold by Asche.
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>>4607929
It's because we died and were resurrected by Dryad, and are thus now contaminated. Also Clara isn't a wisp adept.
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>>4608255
Much as I am loathe to suggest it, we could try purging with Faedka. iirc, despite originating from Dryad, it purges of all Mana.
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>>4608266
If only. It only looks like it purges mana because it temporarily boosts Dryad affinity which will scare off other mana from wanting to touch whoever drank the stuff until the dryad juice is out of their system. No one knows Dryad exists so to the layman it just looks like a universal mana purge.
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>>4608269
>No one knows Dryad exists so to the layman it just looks like a universal mana purge.
I feel like an Adept would recognize the presence of mana, even if they aren't aware of which Mana its aligned to.
But that's more of a "Rue should know about this" kinda thing.
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>>4608304
Maybe, I mean a Luna adept could do it, and adepts sponsored by opposing mana seem to be able to sense their rivals affinity to some degree, but I can't recall anything offhand to indicate a wisp adept could sense dryad affinity.

>Rue should know about this" kinda thing
I feel this sentence strongly, there's a lot about mana and apparitions/aspirations in particular that feels very opaque to me, despite it being our character's subject of expertise.
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>>4608335
Have we successfully meditated on Dryad yet?

I wonder if we should have gone the "Creation" route. It seems like Whisp is more "repair/restore" whereas Dryad is more "Let there be light"
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>>4608439
I think we were able to communicate with Dryad very briefly while we were meditating to the Dryad Elly told us about, a mana of unconditional love. We've meditated since but haven't been able to reproduce this without the bracelet iirc. I believe we would have more success if we accounted for the rage, bitterness and hatred that has currently characterises Dryad when we meditate next but who knows? Dryad already loves Irue to the point of granting her favours, so it seems strange that we'd struggle to communicate.
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>>4608304
>I feel like an Adept would recognize the presence of mana, even if they aren't aware of which Mana its aligned to.
Yes and No! Not in that order.

>No
Normal people can't sense mana. They're not aware of it, they can't hear it, it's primarily an invisible piece of their lives. Adepts are people who are favored by a specific Mana, who, through experience and effort, can grow to understand, hear, and communicate with that Mana, and in doing so they are capable of recognizing the presence of that sort of mana in the area. Conversely, they can recognize the presence of their opposing Mana not because they sense it, but because it necessitates the absence or dearth of the one they can.

Eg: A Shade adept (Marchovic) would be acutely aware of any Shade mana in the area, but they wouldn't be immediately aware of ambient Wisp mana unless it was a high enough concentration that it began to affect the Shade mana. Conversely, Marchovic, you may remember, had Faedka and was actively using it believing it to be Mana purge poison; It's concentrated essence of Dryad. Because it didn't interfere with Shade in any fashion just by being in proximity, he was completely unaware of that.

>Yes
Once you're educated enough in the signs to look for, even if you can't see or hear the mana, you can make estimates of its presence. You'll know that somewhere with a lot of water would have a lot of Undine mana. You'd know that somewhere with a lot of fire or magma would have a lot of Salamander mana. As mana is inseparable from the world itself, you can use the world as a rough estimate of mana's presence.

Irue by and large falls into the second category, as you are highly educated but lack the personal experience of actually being an adept. Some Mana are obviously a bit more abstract or obtuse to estimate though - Wisp, Shade, Luna and Dryad, for example. Does moonlight imply Luna's mana? Does a collection of books? A laboratory? Is Shade just more abundant at night, or in caves? As long as it's dark is it available?

These are things someone who is not aligned with that specific Mana would have to make educated guesses over while someone who is could just listen and know.

As a side note, Shade is more prominent in the dark, but not because it's dark. While it is associated with darkness, it is primarily because people experience heightened emotional states more easily in dark places. Fear, anxiety, panic, regret or the like. Emotions are their breeding grounds, and the dark is a fertile place for those things.

Shade also covers positive emotions, mind, you just don't really hear about them. Shade is a Mana that tests its favored, not coddles. Apparitions are typically born from emotions and issues which will challenge you rather than, say, embody joy or affection. Even still, strictly speaking, they DO fall under Shade's purview.
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While writing the above it occurred to me that a follow up question may be a clarification of mana density. Examples like how places with a lot of water are filled with Undine mana - Wouldn't that Undine mana chase away the rest of the mana?

This is primarily where the opposition comes into play. Places with a great deal of certain mana will not play nice with opposing mana, but will tolerate non-opposing to a varying degree, or even cooperate.

Using Undine as an example, we can suggest that a swamp would be possessed of Undine mana, but it would clearly also be possessed of Gnome mana. It is watery and mucky and muddy. It is extra difficult to start fires in a swamp, and you won't feel much of a breeze, as Jinn and Salamander are, respectively, anathema to Gnome and Undine. They can still be brought to bear in small quantities, but they are oppressed. A volcano might see a glut of Salamander and Gnome mana, but Undine would be hard to find, and Jinn, similarly, would be largely restricted to the outer reaches beyond the earth.

Mana compose the world, so the world functions as it does by general cohabitation, with some Mana naturally edging out some of their siblings. The most distinct exceptions to this - If you want to call them that - are the occasionally referenced Thrones. Places where a given Mana is so unreasonably dense that it all but dominates the region. Dryad's used to be in the Valen territory, but currently only occupies its Atelier due to having been sealed. Undine's would be somewhere out at sea, Jinn's in the sky, etc. There is precisely one "Throne" associated with each Mana, and what you make of that detail is up to you. Some of them are decently well known to adepts, as they become locations of pilgrimage. For others, trying to find that Throne is a pilgrimage all its own.

Largely when considering where the jealous and possessive nature shines, it is in regards to people rather than places. Gnome and Undine aren't opposed by any means, but that doesn't mean they're going to tolerate one trying to lay claim to the other's preferred adepts. Some presence is allowed, by necessity, but only begrudgingly.
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>>4608335
>there's a lot about mana and apparitions/aspirations in particular that feels very opaque to me, despite it being our character's subject of expertise.
Without specific questions or inquiries, I can't really lay it out. As you can probably guess from excerpts like the above, it's the sort of stuff that's just baked into how the world functions, which would be a massive undertaking to try and fully document, which a lot of people probably wouldn't read and many would still have questions over afterwards.

It is your area of expertise though, which means when you do have questions about it or it becomes relevant in the quest, the answers are readily and typically automatically supplied. If you ever feel like you should know something mana related to a given circumstance, you're welcome to poke me about it.

Anyway, back to writing. I suffered an existential sandwich related crisis in the morning so I gave up writing and went to bed.
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>>4608458
>Yes and No! Not in that order.
That makes sense. Are there known mana purge substances? How hard would they be to get ahold of?
>spoiler 1
This is the sort of stuff that shows how much you've put into this world.
>spoiler 2
Figures that the God that covers emotions would be primarily focused on the negative ones.

>>4608475
>spoiler
...Riz and Rue do share a letter and are 3 characters long...
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>>4608491
>Are there known mana purge substances? How hard would they be to get ahold of?
Asche wrote you an essay on this topic earlier. East Heaven produces it, and it isn't difficult to imagine that Artemis would have a method by now if East Heaven has figured it out. As for how hard they are to get a hold of, Marchovic lampshaded that - He considers the "poison" to be extremely rare. it's not something normal people can just get their hands on and is kept for very specific use-scenarios by people in charge of places that earnestly consider long-term imprisonment of an adept to be both feasible and necessary.

Though given what you've learned about Faedka, you have no hard confirmation that the mana purge substance East Heaven uses isn't, in fact, just concentrated Dryad essence. It would be functionally the same in effect, and without actually getting some you have no way of finding out one way or another.
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>>4608499
>and without actually getting some

How hard could it be to get more and drunkenly build a spiders web of anti-mana
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>>4608509
If you want more, you have an effectively unlimited source directly from the tap. If you plan on trying to stain 'A Spider's Web' with Dryad the way you've previously done with Shade, that is own prerogative.
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>>4608499
>Though given what you've learned about Faedka, you have no hard confirmation that the mana purge substance East Heaven uses isn't, in fact, just concentrated Dryad essence.
Doesn't this run contrary to this:
>had Faedka and was actively using it believing it to be Mana purge poison; It's concentrated essence of Dryad. Because it didn't interfere with Shade in any fashion just by being in proximity, he was completely unaware of that.

If it wasn't purging Shade, it stands to reason it doesn't really purge anything but Luna, right?
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>>4608515
Didn't it have an effect on the Wisp paladin though?
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>>4608515
Proximity as opposed to ingestion or injection - the same way Ari was force-fed Aegis' sap. The mana purge substance is also considered a poison, as it has to be administered in some fashion - Drinking, direct injection, what have you.

You may remember Marchovic apologized for misjudging the dosage on the paladin, which resulted in him being weakened and unstable, but not safely deprived of his communion with Wisp.
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>>4608522
Oh, you meant it didn't do anything if you stuck a bottle of it in your pocket or somesuch.

Are there known consumable "essences of Mana" that aren't horribly exotic?

I'm (tentatively) hoping that if we can't get our hands on the actual purging stuff, maybe we can flush ourselves of Dryad using the same method as Faedka, except with a different Mana.
Then we can finally see if our Wisp healing issues are Dryad-related.
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>>4608534
I have a feeling that they may be more Asche related, personally.
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>>4608534
There's not, no. In the first place, purging mana is arguably a heretical concept, since they compose the world at large; when Mana are purged, what's left are the dead zones Elly mentioned: A place where everything is gone, a sea of featureless sifting ruin that saps everything from those inside of it. Their thoughts, feelings, their lives.

To reframe context, asking for something to purge Mana is similar to requesting antimatter.

If you wanted to follow up on possibilities like that though, you could theorize that if Dryad essence can be harvested from Dryad apparitions, it is potentially possible to convince an apparition of a different Mana to provide you something comparable.

All I'll say regarding that is that one of the first things Irue, and by extension all of you, learned is that Mana are extremely possessive of their favored. If you go that route, expect a violent response. Assuming the problem is Dryad in the first place.
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>>4608542
Drat. Our death/resurrection at Dryad's hands is the most significant thing that's happened since our last good Wisp heal, so it's still my prime suspect. But we've hit a dead end, looks like.
I guess we'll just have to wait for it to heal like a normal person.

>what's left are the dead zones
I can understand why that might be considered heretical, yeah. I remember her talking about how awful they were.

> If you go that route, expect a violent response.
It can't be that bad. We gave some random Adepts Faedka at one point and all they did was vomit, and gave it away freely more than once.
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>>4608542
Is there going to be lasting problems from not healing our wrist for so long?
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>>4608566
Theoretically no!
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That silence couldn't last forever though. You had too much on your mind, too much to wonder about. Restless, you shifted your weight from one foot to the other. The tip of your tongue darted across your dry upper lip, leaving a rapidly fading trail of moisture as you opened your mouth to speak... And stopped. Talking for talking's sake right now was- If you were going to break the silence you'd forego the pretenses and just ask what was on your mind. "Do you have any experience nurturing an Apparition?"

"Hm?" Her eyes flickered your way. A long, slow draught from the cup of thinned stew bridging the gap as she considered you calmly. That gaze traveled up to settle briefly on Lily before the crimson pools drifted shut. "Of course," She affirmed simply, "I'm a princess of the Teranford royal family."

"Is it something all of you do?"

"All those in direct line of succession." She drew in a breath and turned thoughtful. "You didn't know that."

"Was I supposed to?" The almost absent realization undertoning her words made you more curious than defensive. "I remember Teranford's royal family was determined by Salamander's favor. The bloodline always produced incredible adepts, and that was your crown's claim to leadership."

"Simple enough, isn't it?" A soft laugh slipped under her breath. Her lips squirmed uncertainly, fingers readjusting themselves around the cup before a faint smile prevailed. "I can tell you a little about it, if you're curious."

An admission of interest vaguely murmurs out of you, letting her know you were paying attention. Even then, quiet stretched on for an unusually long time.

"Sorry, was just trying to think about where to start." She demurred, "Did you want to know more about the royal family's tradition, or just mine personally?"

"Yes."

She shot you an unamused sideeye, lowering the cup of stew in her hands before she starting. "The Lamandran family produces Salamander adepts nearly without fail. Some of our historians think it's a blessing on the bloodline itself, but I don't know how true that is. There's probably other factors that aren't being taken into account, but the idea is nice, isn't it? One family's chosen by the Mana to lead. Our origins are more humble than that, mind, but it's where we ended up. How Teranford rallied together, formed. Do you-"

She turned an earnestly curious look your way, catching and holding your eyes before gently shaking her head. "...History lesson first, then. Bear with me a moment."

You settled in for a more comprehensive answer than you'd expected to get, even if you weren't sure how this related to your actual question yet. Still, it was rare that Rinnier opened up about her home at all.
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"Teranford is somewhat famously situated near the Throne of Salamander, so I don't need to tell you how prevalent Salamander's mana is in the region. Now it is a handled affair; Our country adapted, learned to thrive and make those scorching sands our home. Learned to thrive in it. It wasn't always like that, though. Before Teranford was formally 'founded', we were nomads. We had to be. It wasn't like..." She gestured with a principled exasperation around her. "La'Fiel... East Heaven, really, La'Fiel came later, had agriculture in abundance. We had sand. Sand and fire, and the creatures of the desert that came with that. The Lamandran name was adopted by our family later- I don't know what we were before that. It probably didn't matter. What did matter is what we could do: Coerce Salamander."

She let the sentiment hang before continuing, a long settled and tired bitterness seeping into those last two words. "This was before the Shrine. Before adepts were so formally understood. You needed a guide to survive in Teranford, someone who could lead you through the flames, negotiate with the occasional apparition, and scare off wild animals. In short, anyone with Salamander adept potential."

"The Shrine took the opposite approach, then." You surmised. "Declaring themselves separate from politics. Trying to unentangle Mana from formal government, where your kingdom built itself off those abilities."

"La'Fiel is the weird one." Rinnier shot back with a snort. "Every other country determines its leadership based off the favor of Mana. The Shrine can pretend all they want to be different, but they function the same as an organization as any other government. No one would respect them if they didn't leverage the power of their adepts as a form of military."

"East Heaven?"

"East Heaven's royal family are monsters." She retorted flatly. "Their nation already produced an unreasonable amount of skilled adepts, but their royalty are a cut above the rest."

You knew that already. The first part at least. "You've had experience with them before?"

"...No." A long pause followed by a quiet, almost ashamed, admission. "East Heaven's borders were locked when I was still a child. These are all just things I learned from my father growing up."
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A delicate topic floated to the surface. Your Testament trailed off shortly after, seeming surprised with herself for having tread there... But ultimately shook her head. "We're getting off topic."

"Old Salamander adepts working as guides?" A gentle suggestion, received with a grateful nod and the flash of a smile for your efforts.

"You were paying attention after all." She teased, "But that's right. First they were the leaders of smaller nomadic groups, and sometimes they'd band together to form larger ones. The thing which ultimately set the Lamandran family aside from the rest was the use of an apparition as an ally. They were the first to take that step, and used that as proof of their favor."

"I guess there had to be a first, but admitting your family's only claim to royalty was being the lucky first one..."

"I never said we were lucky." Rinnier corrected, "According to our history, the first Lamandrans took their name from Salamander as a mark of fealty after being the first adepts to venture into Salamander's Throne and return. The apparition came with them, which Teranford records suggest was meant as a token representing the contract between my family and Salamander."

That sounded uncomfortably familiar.

"My family walked into an exclusive contract with a Mana and came out of it as hereditary royalty by divine mandate." Rinnier held her palm to her chest. "Your family-" She reached over to poke you in the chest, "-walked into an exclusive contract with a Mana and came out of it as a bloodline of teddy bears."

...And so did that.

Glowering at her only made the ghost of a smile splayed across her lips gain that much more life. Your shoulders shift, dislodging the offending finger with rolled eyes. "So I'm retreading familiar ground to you?"

"Seems so." She agreed easily. "I remain somewhat skeptical of an eighth Mana, but there's plenty here I can't argue with or otherwise explain. So for now, assuming that is the truth, it's not that unexpected that you'd start trying to nurture an apparition. It's a tradition in the Teranford royal family that everyone in the direct line of succession would start trying to cultivate an apparition when they turn twelve - You can think of it sort of like a coming of age ceremony. We prove our favor with Salamander, and in the process deepen our relationship with it. The apparitions can take on a lot of different roles, but most commonly they'll serve as bodyguards and training companions until they mature... After which, we use the core they leave behind as the ignition catalyst in our polearms."

"What happens to the Aspirations?"

"Most of them stay with the one who raised them until one of them dies. Bodyguards, training companions..." Her all too forced nonchalance showed a wistful crack as she listed them off. "...Friends, confidants... You get the idea. They leave, eventually; the Mana have a habit of out living us."
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Aegis had hung around, but you hardly had context for whether that was normal. The Shrine, healers specifically, not uncommonly nurtured Wisp apparitions to aid with their healing process and used the cores left behind as reservoires for emergencies or more serious conditions... The Aspirations didn't exactly stay afterwards, though. Was it their nature to wander, or want to linger?

Nature. Nurture. There probably wasn't a convenient answer.

"That many Aspirations in one place seems like it'd cause trouble." You mused, thoughts drifting towards Aegis and Lily's possible future. "They don't get territorial? Try to consume each other?"

"That would be very ill-mannered." Rinnier's nose wrinkled disdainfully. "But they're not terribly friendly to each other, no. I'd liken it more to rivalry than an outright hostility... Most of the time." She took a sip, which turned into a gulp, from the now no longer steaming cup of stew. She turned a pensive gaze down the rim of the cup, swirling the remnants of her breakfast inside it absently. "There's a very old rumour that the royal family's Aspirations ultimately fed back to the first one, and that we had some mega-Aspiration like the Mistral stashed away somewhere as our guardian ace."

"Did you?" You'd done a great deal of studying, but that never came up. The Shrine didn't deal in unconfirmed theoreticals.

Rinnier shrugged, offering an equally unhelpful opinion. "My elder brothers and I never heard about it from our father. I'd say it's still possible he kept it a secret, but..." She threw her head back, draining the the cup of its contents. "If we had something like that, it wouldn't have stayed quiet when our nation was crumbling. I'm inclined to think it was just useful propaganda."

>Ask about her apparition. It's transparently a sensitive subject, but you're curious.
>Ask for general advice on nurturing Lily?
>Follow up on something else she mentioned (what?)
>Other? (write-in)

>Asking about Kara is a queued action, it'll come at the end of the next update regardless.
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>>4608841
>Ask for general advice on nurturing Lily?
Suggest team building activities that we can do together or something.
And.
>Other? (write-in)
Prompt her to start coming up with a list of stuff Carona needs help with, and stuff that we should know that we might find or be pointed in the direction of, while we are visiting the Valen Estate(like the general situation, Civil war progress, Who we are backing during the war, the deal with the Crown, obtaining a line of credit, and a source of additional manpower / support, and swap important info like the Crown-Ice queen Atelier connection, and general disasters and events in Carona since the last time we talked), Byrn should be able to help her source with house Valen assistance so Byrn's is being kept doing something while we talk to Clara about the Fae and other Artermis stuff Since we don't know how far the 'teddy bear' thing extends it would probably be best to keep Dryad's existence to blood Valens only, as best we can. / attempt to contact Caylen or Alouette with the Jinn telephone + Bracelet if we need it to get him to return or at least convince him that Artermis isn't telling the whole truth, and aren't the people he thinks they are. Or pay our respects if she is dead or in an coma or something, though how she made it all the way back in that state would make things difficult.


Also should we plan to tell Caylen everything, we should come up with a list of stuff to mention.
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>>4608841
With the radical change in terrain over there, do we know if Salamander's Throne is still there? Or has it moved? If so, where?

>>Ask about her apparition. It's transparently a sensitive subject, but you're curious.
Very lightly prod, and back off if she responds unfavorably. I am curious, and this is more than we've every gotten out of her before, but goodness knows we have things we don't want to talk about.
I've got a bad feeling that when Salamander turned on Lamandrans, the app/aspirations attacked and had to be put down or driven off.

If the prod goes wrong, do
>Ask for general advice on nurturing Lily?
along with a generally connected question about how the Apparition->Aspiration changed a creature, and how the Aspirations continued to change over time. I'm curious as to what sorts of changes we can continue to see in OakenRue.
If the prod goes right, squirrel this away to ask about another time. This should be a topic we can ask her about next time we talk to her if needed.
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>>4608871
Your other is a rather abrupt transition from a quiet personal talk to business. Plus I'm pretty sure she already keeps tabs on that stuff while she's running the town.
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>>4608876
I would assume that it would be slotted in wherever it fits best e.g. one of the last things talked about if it helped the flow of the conversation, since quiet time can't last forever since we still need to get back on the road at some point.Also it might help if we end up overstepping, that we give her something to focus on instead of reflecting on the past.

It was mostly about how we get the others out of the room and get some alone time with Clara, if we need it without everyone breathing down our necks by giving them something to do.
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>>4608884
Yeah the travel is taking a while, and I'm entirely ok with that. It's given us time to slow down and and talk to our people instead of rushing from one problem to another. The whole reason we did the rounds with the knights was because Rinnier knows them better (and is generally respected more) than us, despite them being ours.

>spoiler 2
But right now we're alone with Rinnier, in a field, several days travel away from the estate. If our Aunt doesn't demand time alone with us at some point while we're there anyway, we can give out distracting busywork at that point.
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>>4608889
That's also assuming that our Aunt is even at the estate, she may never have made it back in the first place. Since all we know is that we have been summoned because plans may very well have gone sideways and this may now be putting us in control of house Valen simply because we're next in line. Made in Clara's name since it's the most likely one we are to respond to, if any at all.

I guess we stick Ari in the Library / Valen Archive and see if she can find anything.
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>>4608896
I...maybe?
This has nothing to do with what to talk to Rinnier about right now, during this conversation where she's being unusually forthcoming about her past.
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>>4608841
>Ask for general advice on nurturing Lily
>Follow up on something else she mentioned
What were the conditions of their contract with Salamander? Could it be connected to their loss of favor?
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>>4608902
I have a feeling that at least one of the brothers that fled into Atermis's city state probably helped the invasion, that brought the Nymph Wood's spread from 'across' the sea and so the entire bloodline got punished for it, I guess they aren't to unlike Caylen in that regard, maybe Atermis assisted with the invasion as well somehow, like they are in the upcoming Civil war.
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>Ask about her apparition. It's transparently a sensitive subject, but you're curious.
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>>4608841
>Ask for general advice on nurturing Lily?
> Did anyone other then the Lamandarans nurture apparitions?
> Are their nurtured apparitions still in Teranford?
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>>4608902
>the first Lamandrans took their name from Salamander as a mark of fealty after being the first adepts to venture into Salamander's Throne and return. The apparition came with them,
I'm wondering if that apparition was assassinated, assuming it was still around that long.

>>4608839
>"My family walked into an exclusive contract with a Mana and came out of it as hereditary royalty by divine mandate." Rinnier held her palm to her chest. "Your family-" She reached over to poke you in the chest, "-walked into an exclusive contract with a Mana and came out of it as a bloodline of teddy bears."
Circumstances were a little different, Rinnier. The "contract" with Dryad was made off the cuff, and is maintained so that we can continue to be a sort of jailor. I'm not sure under what circumstances the Salamander contract was made, but it appears to have been a much less hostile one.


That makes me think, though; there must have been a recurring payment to Salamander in one form or another for its continued support, surely. Maybe it was as simple as a missed or tainted series of payments somehow? Maybe someone was stealing them before they could be offered?
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>>4608908
Jesus fucking christ calm down with the spoiler tag. Half your posts or more are spoilered.
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>>4608841
>>Ask for general advice on nurturing Lily?
>>Follow up on something else she mentioned (what?)

Was it only her family that nurtured apparitions?

Were there any rules about it?

Could the problem have been something that changed about her family, not Salamander, like could they have been poisoned somehow with something that Salamander hates in their body?
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>>4610001
>like could they have been poisoned somehow with something that Salamander hates in their body?
Could it have been Faedka? The stuff masquerades very effectively as alcohol, so it would have been easy enough to get some into their supply.


What's throwing me is that not only were they scorned, Salamander appears to have forsaken its Throne. Surely a contract gone sour, even a prominent one, wouldn't prompt it to leave where it'd made its home since before the contract was made? The scorning looks to be an active thing, so I don't think its been kidnapped or something else crazy.
What would make Salamander leave or move, but also cause it to hate the ones it used to be closest to? Surely it's not infected?
Maybe one of the royals poisoned the Throne somehow? Made it unsuitable for the Fire God?
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>>4610027
IT could also have been the appearance of Nymph Wood, since Salamander would want absolutely nothing to do with Dryad, even if it is just a lobotomized corpse that's running the show, for now at least.
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>>4610027
Yeah, if one of the Royals fucked up maybe Salamander saw it as betrayal.
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>>4610043
It certainly could have been, but you'd think a Mana would defend their throne instead of throwing up their hands and walking out, as it were. Especially against anything connected to Dryad, reanimated corpse or not.
If someone smuggled some of the Wood into the seat of the Throne, and it somehow fundamentally changed the nature of the terrain, maybe that would be enough. But the Nymph Wood didn't seem to cause a negative reaction in Mim when she encountered it, only the various Dryad shenanigans iirc, its been a while.
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>>4610079
On that note we should probably get Lilly to help clean up the Manor when we are next there, whenever that is.It should help us figure out if Dryad's return would go smoothly, or if there is another ghost in the machine at this point.


On the way back from the Fragment with Clara, if we end up doing that would be the next time we're there.
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>>4610086
Seriously. Why all the spoiler text.
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>>4610132
I tend to use them to denote things that I think are are possible choices in the future that may not end up being taken, have little evidence that backs them up or to present additional weak evidence or conclusions, tends to lean on the 4th wall a little too much, or to break things up a little more and make things more obvious that it has little / nothing to do with prior text.
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4chan has uncrashed, so I'll be fixing a snack and then getting votes tallied for writing soon! Also looking through the chatter to see if I've missed anything.
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>>4608871
>>4608873
>>4608899
>>4609103
>>4610001
General advice for Lily, then?

>>4608871
Uh. That is a lot, anon.

>>4608873
>>4608942
Poke around about her apparition! You've done worse.

>>4608902
What kind of conditions were involved with the Salamander contract?

>>4609103
>>4610001
Did anyone else in Teranford nurture apparitions?

>>4609103
Are your apparitions still there?

>>4610001
Speculating about loss of favor!
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Alright. Let's see if I can get this out before the skyfire arrives.
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>>4610207
>Alright. Let's see if I can get this out before the skyfire arrives.
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The scope of this continues to grow, I apologize for the (ongoing) delay.
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>>4611619
Is Irue talking herself into a pit again?
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Lets gOOOOOOO irue!!
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How many pushups could Irue do?
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>>4611684
One followed by both arms snapping.
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>>4611684
Maybe one, if her wrist wasn't still wrecked.
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I think the skyfire finally got him, anons.
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Unsure if I'll actually get this out before the thread falls off the board! I didn't expect to spend a whole thread on... Walking there...

More relevantly though, I didn't think the thread would last for a whole month. Started having to deal with some responsibilities that weren't being pushed back any further, so it's cut down on the time I've been able to spend writing from day to day.

I feel really bad about this, sorry!
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>>4613687
Take care of your stuff Riz.
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>>4613687
Oh and btw, I have a reaction face ready for when we encounter Maran again.
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>>4613690
Oh no, I can't believe you predicted Maran intercepting your approach to the Valen estate in the middle of the road!
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>>4613687
Any rough ETA on the next thread?
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>>4613692
2023.
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A little more seriously, I'm hoping it won't be too far off. Writing for 3-4 hours a day isn't too bad, so once I get things handled I'll probably start back up again once I'm settled. I want to estimate mid to late February? So something like 2-3 weeks after this one wraps up, at the earliest.

Did this thread count as downtime? Did I do it right this time? People seemed to enjoy it, but I have no idea what the appeal was. Downtime is a mystery...
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>>4613701
>How do we deal with a subordinate losing her beloved in our service
>How do we stop our daughter figure's slide into sociopathy and/or world-ending infection
>How do we get useful info from our friend without touching topics sensitive for her
I don't think downtime is possible for Irue. Though maybe clothes shopping? In general anons like to vote on clothes.
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>>4613711
I still failed at downtime!?

Goddammit.
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>>4613712
One day there will be a Prequel/Valen crossover and it will constitute Irue getting Katias shit together only for it to fall apart and Irue to admit that her quest line is also a dumpster fire and then they will get super wasted together.
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>>4613687
>I didn't expect to spend a whole thread on... Walking there...
Correction, we spent the whole thread walking one third of the way there!

>Did this thread count as downtime?
For me, it all comes back to the sword of Damocles. Irue might have gotten used to it at this point but making a a series of important decisions one after another with big impacts both immediate and delayed fills me with a latent anxiety. It's a nice pallet cleanser to be have a bit of time set aside for warmer, more personal interactions. Not as warm as I'd like, I suppose but then it's not like Irue is friends with any of these people.
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>>4613687
>I didn't think the thread would last for a whole month.
This board has only gotten slower while you've been gone. about a month per thread is standard fare these days.

>>4613701
>I want to estimate mid to late February? So something like 2-3 weeks after this one wraps up, at the earliest.
You mean we might have multiple threads in the same season!? Yes please!
>spoiler
yes, you did a good. We got to just... talk to people without anything pressing. You write such wonderful characters, and we rarely get the chance to spend time with them without the sky falling.
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>its been 24 days
wtf
It's been a lot of fun though. I've been breaking phone rules at the barracks to read updates
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>>4613822
>This board has only gotten slower while you've been gone.
For reference, see pic related.
That's posts per day.

>>4613712
So I'm no drawfag, but I know a guy that I might be able to finagle into trying his hand at it. If you could have any scene from the quest drawn, what would it be? I was thinking either solving the Ice Queen, the killing of ShadowRue, the snake hunt, one of our encounters with the OakenRues, or us getting run through by the staff Rinnier wanted.
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>>4614153
That is a significant oof.

Also there's no specific part I'd like to see illustrated over any other without giving away my tastes, so it's way more precious to me to see the parts you guys enjoyed the most that inspired you to try and capture it just that little bit more.

I save everyone's art, because it's lovely to look back over and think about how much someone must have been having fun to want to put something together. They're all very good memories.
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>>4614780
hmm. I'll see what I can get out of him.
How does Rue usually dress? Is pic related accurate, or is there usually more going on?
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>>4614846
That's fine, yes. Irue wore a balance between comfortable and formal wear most of the time initially. There have been some minor outfit changes over the course of the quest, though: For example, they started wearing boots after all the forest tromping and spelunking left them miserable. You got Lily as a mask recently, and Lily has since been allowed to redefine Irue's hair style from free flowing and held back by a headband to being tied back in an ivy-bound ponytail.

There's probably a strong case to be made for Irue using pants much more often now, just because it would make moving in the woods and caves easier and less generally frustrating - It isn't something that's been mentioned one way or another, but it fits in the general evolution of attire the quest has nudged Irue towards.

Notably, Irue hasn't actually considered using gloves yet. Imagine actually having to use your hands like some kind of peasant.
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>>4614868
>>4614846
I wonder if i can affect a fade out on Kara and Asche to match Dopplerue.
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>>4614868
>Lily has since been allowed to redefine Irue's hair style
We're going to have to set her straight on that sooner rather than later. Perhaps threat of losing her perch will get her to stop messing with our hair?
>There's probably a strong case to be made for Irue using pants much more often now,
I dunno, I feel like that would be a bridge too far one the presentable/utility scale. Plus it would formally tip Rue into looking masculine instead of feminine, which I'm sure Rue would be at least somewhat aware of.
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>>4614885
>it would formally tip Rue into looking masculine instead of feminine, which I'm sure Rue would be at least somewhat aware of.
What do you mean, anon?
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>>4614885
Why would we do that. That's dumb
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>>4616218
Because Rue has a major problem with anyone messing with her hair. She has since the very beginning of the quest. We never did anything about it because there was no vote for it.
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>>4616257
I mean, if you want to have a vote, I vote no. Irue has been tolerating it for a bit now, no reason to suddenly change that and start wearing pants suddenly just because.
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>>4616257
Looks like rue no longer minds it with Lily. And I say gooood
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>>4616330
Yeah. We didn't have a vote because nobody is upset by Irue not being too upset about it.
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>>4616430
>>4616330
Lol. I just figured part of the reason is because Lily isn't a person but an apparition. Then I thought that if Lily touching her hair, then Irue would always be screaming at Jinn whenever the wind blew through her hair. Then I got a mental image of Irue on a windy day becoming more and more annoyed at it moving her hair and then losing her shit and doing just that, screaming at the wind in a full blown rage.
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I want off this road though. Lets take a timeskip
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>>4616330
>>4616430
its just weird. Hating having her hair messed with has been one of Rue's primary traits for literally the entire quest. And now, no one cares?

I personally don't have a problem with the hair messing, but it's something that's flown Rue into a rage on more than one occasion, so its perfectly reasonable to have Rue try and stop this from continuing.
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>>4616444
I don't understand why this matters to you. Irue doesn't have to do that.
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>>4616470
You don't understand the concept of keeping in-character?
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>>4616489
Riz said it was up to us whether Irue was upset by Lilly's clumsy affections. I've always thought it was a childish trait and I'm happy for Irue to rid herself of it.
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>>4616444
Yah, but it's Lily not just some person, if we consider Lily a person at all.

Like. Irue decided to put a magic toddler on her face. Hair was gonna get played with, what did you expect. Irue might not be super happy about it, she's not some monster who would yell at a child.

That one time with Mim excluding.
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We're formally on page 10. If you don't think you're going to get that last post in time Riz, make sure you've archived.
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http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Valen+Quest

And we are archived.

I'll lurk the thread for a bit to try and answer some questions if I can.

Apologies to all anons who participated in Valen Quest but died at their keyboards wondering when QM would finally post a new thread.

To those who did not make it to the end, we will never forget your sacrifice.
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I hoped I'd get the last update out, but we hit page ten right as the weekend rolled around and I nominally got free time back. Fortunately, the next thread shouldn't be too long out from here, so I guess I'm not too fussed about it. I've not forgotten the paladin write-up that was requested from the prior thread, so that's on my to-do list as well since I am arguably warmed up with writing again.

This thread wasn't at all what I expected, but I hope everyone enjoyed themselves all the same!
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>>4617290
Thanks for running!
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>>4617290
Thanks for running good. Good to have you back.
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>>4617290
Thanks for running!
February 2022
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Oh man im gonna be waiting



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