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The Grail War continues, and you're taking a bit of a break. R&R is important.

You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.

To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have shifted the future away from the one that you once would have faced and instead onto one of uncertainty and chaos.

The Fifth Holy Grail War lies ahead of you, and the challenge and danger it represents to you, the people you care for and the world itself is far greater than you could have ever predicted. Though the grail might be corrupted and the war itself might be a sham, the stakes couldn't be higher.

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You observe everyone as they go about things at the arcade, with Rider refusing to stop playing on a Daytona racing arcade machine for the entire duration of the time you are at the arcade. Illya seems more focused on playing as wide a variety of games as she can. Not allowing herself to get bogged down in going for a victory on any of the games she plays and instead moving on almost immediately from most of the cabinets. At one point, Saber, wearing a dress fairly similar to the one Rin ended up giving her ends up challenging Rider to the racing game, before summarily losing to the Servant with the superior Riding Skill with ease.

Then she kept demanding a rematch over and over again. Seems like the Riding skill somehow translate into extreme skill at Arcade machines with steering wheels and pedals in addition to just animals and vehicles. You aren't even going to question the logic here, but at least the two of them appear to be enjoying themselves. Saber's competitive spirit is flaring up massively as she continually demands rematches. Shirou and Sakura spend the majority of their own time looking at their Servants with concerned expressions. Caster and Betty just spend almost all of the time by your side, the two of them do play on a few of the machines at your behest, and while they both seem to have some interest in the machines, they aren't smitten with the machines like Saber and Rider have fallen for the racing cabinet. Oh well, at least neither of them seem to hate the place. You weren't really expecting the two of them to have much love for the arcade anyway, honestly. The trip was made more with Illya in mind than anything else, mostly to cheer her up about having lost her Servant. She really needed to have something positive to do after your first attempt to reclaim her Servant was foiled.

Soon enough, everyone seems to have gotten bored of the arcade... well, everyone except Saber and Rider with Saber determined to somehow defeat Rider despite the current record between the two of them being thirty seven wins for Rider... and a complete lack of any victories at all for Saber. Rider seems more than happy to effortlessly defeat Saber every time that she demands a rematch. Though when she's told that it's time to leave by Sakura, Rider seems happy to leave Saber in complete and utter defeat. The proud King of Knights completely and utterly defeated in a contest of skill by the purple haired woman. Rider now seems to emanate a smug aura upon defeating her fellow Servant, who clearly isn't very happy about her loss at all. What was Saber expecting? She challenged a Rider to a race with vehicles. Her loss or more accurately, her losses, were practically guaranteed from the very start.
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"Alright, everyone. I think it's about time we ought to get going now." You check your watch and take note of the time. It's already 6:30 PM, and while half of your faction seem to be enjoying themselves on the arcade machines, you can tell that Shirou and Sakura are clearly suffering as they both try to convince Saber to just stop playing, all while Rider simply taunts her with that smug aura she emanates, the subtle smirks she's giving Saber when she thinks that nobody else is paying any attention to her. Looks like Rider really does take pride in her ability to drive, to the point where she's practically antagonizing Saber for daring to impede upon her realm of expertise. You're going to let Saber drive everyone back to teach Rider a lesson in humility, you think. She might enjoy winning, but the purpose of this trip was to get everyone to bond in order to better work as a team as well as to raise general morale. At least Saber seems to like the dress that she purchased, though it doesn't really seem suited to the cold of the winter. It might be an idea to get Rin to share some clothing with Saber after all. Relying on Shirou and a woman who lived most of her life pretending to be a man to purchase women's clothing probably wasn't the wisest choice you could've made. Then again, Saber is a Servant, so it's unlikely she'll even notice the cold. Still, she looks just a little bit silly wearing something that is so obviously meant to be a summer dress in the cold winter. "We ought to be getting back home, I think. We've got a busy night ahead of us, and I want to make sure that we're prepared for what lies ahead." Tonight basically ensures a difficult battle if you wish to retrieve Avenger. You don't know if it is possible to deal with the threat in the grail once and for all right now, but you should at least attempt to rescue Avenger, even if you can't win in an all out assault. Saber might be roughly equal to Saber Alter, but Saber Alter has a massive advantage in seemingly having a huge amount more magical energy than Saber herself does. The ability to use Mana Burst as much as she wants is easily powerful enough to allow Alter to take the edge over her uncorrupted counterpart, and of course, as she has more magical energy at her disposal, then her usage of Excalibur Morgan will likely end up overpowering Saber's own holy sword.
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You get murmurs of agreement from most of your allies, but a look of stern disappointment from Saber. Seems she was still holding out hope for a victory against Rider. It's probably a mercy that you don't allow Saber to continue to sink effort into what is obviously becoming a sunk cost fallacy. She's spent so much time trying to beat Rider that to just leave on a defeat isn't something she's happy accepting. Illya looks like she's had fun at least, while Caster and Betty just spent most of the time by your side for some reason. You'll find something the two of them enjoy doing eventually, but it seems that they just preferred to spend time near you, you might've wanted them to get more involved in the activities of the arcade, but it looks like the two of them just don't really care for such things. You expected Caster wouldn't really be taken by them on account of having lived in an era where magic that was at least on the level of what technology can do in the current world was commonplace, but Betty's reaction is a surprising one. Looks like this particular advancement of technology just isn't something she personally finds impressive, despite her outfit suggesting she was only from a few centuries ago at most..

The group walks out of the arcade and quickly ends up returning to the car. Saber seems overjoyed when you offer her the keys to drive the car back to your home, not that she apparently needs keys with that damn nonsensical Riding skill of hers, while it's not as confusing as Rider's in how effective it is, wrapping your head around that particular ability is still something that you find a little confusing. Though you'll need to end up instructing her of just where to go, you don't really mind. If a threat does appear on the road, then loathe as you are to admit it, everyone would be far safer with either Rider or Saber driving. Besides, this is a minor punishment for Rider not being a graceful winner at all. Saber might be a sore loser, but Rider was clearly challenging Saber's ego, and the bruised ego of a king isn't something that you want to be forced to deal with because Rider was having too much fun tormenting Saber for her inability to beat her in a game.

Saber seems to be far more restrained than Rider is when it comes to driving, and you are truly thankful that she hasn't turned into a speed demon. In fact, she seems to be taking things somewhat more slowly than necessary, almost as if she's trying to go slow on purpose. Is this her way of getting back at Rider? It's surprisingly petty, especially for Saber, but you suppose than when a sore loser meets a bad winner, something like this was guaranteed to end up happening. At least the form of her revenge is ultimately harmless. It's not that long a journey back to your home anyway.
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As Saber drives and you give her directions to your mansion, Illya speaks up. "So... we're going to be attacking the temple again tonight, aren't we? I was wondering just what sort of approach you were thinking of taking when it actually comes to our attack." Illya seems to have become just a little bit impatient about the idea of waiting any longer to discuss the actual attack that will hopefully lead to her getting back her Servant. You don't really mind answering her here though. She had a rough day yesterday and also today, honestly. It couldn't have been easy for her to just accept Shirou like she did.

>You'll favor discretion. Have a small party attempt to sneak in to retrieve Avenger while avoiding direct confrontation with the enemy.
>You'll create a diversion. If you can trick your enemies and divert their attention elsewhere, then it'll be easier for a Servant strike team to break in and get away with Avenger.
>You'll take the full-on assault option. Open with an Anti-Army Noble Phantasm in order to catch them unaware and off-guard. Then with any luck, you can use that time to deal with a few of the opponent servants through outnumbering the active defenders before they can fully respond to your assault.
>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
>Write-in...
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>>4480258
>>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
She can teleport past bounded fields right?
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>>4480258
Let's go big. Full on assault. We need to make sure Caster and Betty have all the energy they need. Betty needs to make a ton of beakies.
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>>4480275
Support
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I feel like sneaking in is just bound to end in failure. They have an assassin on their team, and we have almost nothing in the way off stealth.
Diversion could work but I don't feel good about splitting our forces.
Assault is a good idea. There is a good chance we can just straight up kill whoever is standing on lookout by our first attack.
Teleporting in is Assault but better in every way.
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>>4480258
>>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
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>>4480258
>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
Initial chaos can be used to break Avenger free.
Might be worth to have Betty summon some monsters and buff them beforehand to buy more time and confuse enemies.
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>>4480258
>>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
we have no way to go stealth, we, however, have a lot of heavy hitters so getting the first strike is gonna cause chaos in the temple
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>>4480258
>>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
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We should probably inform our allies of the servants from the last war because the servants in the temple are 4th grail war participants.
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>>4480440
We should do it once we get home.
We should also ask Medea to scry for Kerry, Kirei and Zouken. And ask Betty to create a few of her creatures. They can be used to defend our base while we are away or aid us in the assault.
I am not sure about design tho. More Beakys maybe?
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>>4480258
>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
It's basically full on assault but we don't have to walk through the front gate.
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>>4480258

>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!

Works best for our objective imo
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>>4480258
>>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!

>>4480440
Lancelot will likely rush Artoria, Diarmuid might too if he remembers what happened.
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>>4480651
that's great, 2 servants mindlessly rushing 1 target let's us better come up with a plan and get a better grasp of more factors
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>>4480275
Support
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>>4480258
>You'll take the full-on assault option. Open with an Anti-Army Noble Phantasm in order to catch them unaware and off-guard. Then with any luck, you can use that time to deal with a few of the opponent servants through outnumbering the active defenders before they can fully respond to your assault.
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>>4480651
lancelot already got the punishment he was looking for didnt he
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>>4480886
Not ever servant is Artoria or EMIYA, memories of past HGW don't carry over unless its FGO
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>>4480651
I think we shouldn't assume that temple servants will act as normal servants since we don't know how autonomous they are.
Last time we saw Diarmund he displayed exactly zero personality and acted more like a puppet.
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>>4480258
>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
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I've been a little busy on account of the uh... tree. So I won't be able to get a second update out tonight.
It's about halfway done.

We're locked into teleport now though.
Feel free to talk about potential ways you can go about the attack other than your entrance though.
Any particular enemies you want to focus on as threats, strategies to deal with specific enemies, etc.
There will still be a larger plan made with all your allies, but you've got enough information now to start planning, I think.
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Can someone tell me how does teleportation works in this setting?
Does mage need to actually see destination or is rough idea of it's whereabouts enough?
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>>4481149
From what I understand Medea can basically teleport anywhere as long as she has the mana.
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So here is the plan:
1) Our servants, Shinji, Shirou and a few Beaky-type abominations teleport to temple's entrance.
2) Gangbang whoever is standing at the entrance.
3) Wait for temple servants to make a move. If they attack us have them fight our servants with abomination support. If they don't attack proceed through temple while using Beakys as minesweepers for traps and ambushes.
4) Find Avenger and Rulebreaker or dispell whatever is holding him.
5) Get the fuck out with teleportation.

The reason I want to leave Illya and Sakura home is that they both are lesser grails and I think having corrupted grail anywhere near them is a bad idea.
The reason I want to leave Rin, Monica and Bazett home is that I am afraid that in our absence someone might attack our base. Also in a fight against servants they wouldn't be very useful anyway.

If the fight will be in a 1v1 form we should do it like this:
Medea vs French Tentacle Mage (Medea should be able to just annihilate this guy)
Arthuria vs Edgy Arthuria
Lancer vs Lancer
EMIYA vs Hassan (I think he can beat them)
Betty vs Lancelot
Medusa vs Iskandar (Her eyes should at least partially counter his army)
Beakys supporting where needed and Shinji healing and also supporting.

If the fight will be in a squad vs squad form we should do it like this:
Arthuria and Lancer at the front.
Betty holding off Lancelot.
Medusa and Beakys doing melee support.
Medea and Archer doing range damage while also looking out for Assassin.
Shinji healing.
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Alternatively we could ask Illya for her Avenger's name then have Medea scry his location and teleport him to us.
Would that work?
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>>4481193
>>4481202
That sounds too good to be true, how bold of you to assume they would just let you have your usual shonen jump 1v1 fights.
We don't even know if the thing/person responsible for summoning altered version of servants is in there or how powerful it is.
Your solution is just so text book anime clichés it's not even worth it.
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>>4481213
I gave 3 different solutions and You gave exactly zero.
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>>4481213
If it's not worth it then how about we just have a dinner at home and then go to sleep?
I am sure that would satisfy You.
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>>4480258
>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
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>>4481225
Sounds good
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>>4481213
Have you forgotten that this world functions with tropes like this?
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>4480258
>>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
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>>4481330
Sorry, double tap -- do not tally this.
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>>4480258
Teleport strike, if we can do some scrying just before (only scry just before the assault to not tip the enemy off - it wouldn't do to jump into a worm pit or into an ambush)

Given option, jump into position where we can liberate hostages, or neutralize biggest threat first, in this order.

Also we should discuss with our team what we know of enemy capabilities as well as what we don't know.

And then there's issue whether we attack before or after meeting with the demon? Because aside from the meeting itself possibly being a trap, even if she decides to join us (and we keep our allies from smiting her) she may still be a security hazard if, willingly or not, she conveys information to her master.
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>>4481338
>liberate hostages
Are there other hostages aside from Avenger?
>And then there's issue whether we attack before or after meeting with the demon?
We have a fixed time for the Shuten meeting and a whole night for temple assault. In the worst case we can do temple tomorrow.
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>>4481225
That doesn't sound that bad.
In fact, I would also suggest to give all of our servants full control to shirou and let him lead the operation. Since he's the protagonist and we're shiroufags, I think it'll goes exactly the way that makes it so that ever girl will have an orgy with him.
We could just fuck off to misaki or london in the mean time.

Isn't that what we shiroufags wants?
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>>4481360
>Isn't that what we shiroufags wants?
I wouldn't know.
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>>4481362
Surely you jest.
Getting shirou a harem and we can only just watch aside, this hgw is becoming too repetitive. Wouldn't you ever wonder what if we venture into other conflicts?
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>>4481360
why are you so salty and bitter?
There's literally zero reason to hate Shirou now that there's a confirmed spare Artoria around.

>>4481345
Well we know of Avenger but Cu didn't exactly have time to do a lot of scouting. It would suck to get upper hand in a fight only for some character we don't want to die to be dragged out of the basement and put at tentaclepoint.
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>>4481370
Unless I am forgetting someone I am pretty sure every character we care about is either at our house or far away from Fuyuki.
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>>4481370
Salty? I'm through and true shiroufag at heart. I'm even the one who samefag the vote on saving kerry and encourage shirou to talk with illya.
And hell, most of you even agree that Medea should be shirou servant instead of us, which I too agree on that part.

You're not even a shiroufag, fuck off.
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>>4481373
>most of you even agree that Medea should be shirou servant instead of us
If most people agree on this and You even admit to samefaging then how come Medea is our servant right now and not Shirou's?
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>>4481376
There's no choice on offering medea as shirou second servant. Trust me, I would choose and samefag those if that exist.
Oh yeah, I did use multiple IPs to make it legit. You'd be surprise that those IDs with more than 5 posts is actually me.
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>>4481378
Fag
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>>4481378
You have already admitted to being a shiroufag.
I would not be surprised by You partaking in any atrocity or perversion imaginable.
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>>4481378
>shiroufags
and people complain about coomers when shiroufags are the real cancer
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>>4481193
>leaving anyone behind
anyone left behind just means they get zoukened
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>>4480258
>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
Good plan
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>>4481379
>>4481380
>>4481392
>SEETHING
kek, can't wait for all the reaction when shirou get to fuck rider, betty, medea, illya and monica
The seeth would probably enough to blow you fags up
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>>4481409
Stop acting like a faggot, anon.
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>>4481409
Sakura is best girl
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"I was thinking that we should utilize Caster's abilities to facilitate our attack, actually." You reveal the begginings of your plan of attack. If Caster can teleport you all in, that means you've got a massive advantage and might just mean you can kill off multiple enemies before they can even stop your assault, and by that time, the balance in power would've shifted entirely into your own favor!

"Which... Caster?" Illya asks for clarification. For a moment there you kind of forgot that everyone else is under the impression the Betty is some variety of Caster class Servant. Well, it's easier to tell them that than to admit the truth about Betty. You'd end up having to answer so many questions that you yourself are unaware of the answers to. No, it's best that you keep the truth behind Betty as a secret.

"Oh. Right. I am referring to my second Caster, of course." You quickly correct yourself. Even though there probably shouldn't have been a need. Illya isn't the most strategically inclined, you understand, but surely even she should realize that you were speaking of Caster's ability to teleport herself and others? Though her spacial transportation ability is one with limits that Illya is unaware of, so maybe she's just not taking things for granted and assuming that Caster is capable of teleporting everyone?

'Second Caster, Master? I ought to take offense!' A voice rings out in your mind. 'But I suppose I can't really complain all too much about the alias my... fellow servant seems to have taken for herself. I can quite clearly see that she's not a magus of any sort.' Seems that Caster seems to have figured out just what Betty is... or, well she's close enough that she can make guesses about the origin of Betty's abilities. Of course Caster would figure out that she wasn't truly an actual spellcaster though. You're just surprised that it took her so little time to do so. You suppose that when she gets to take a good look at something, pulling the wool over her eyes is just as difficult as it is with Touko. While you have more respect for your own teacher, for having a far more pragmatic approach to her status as a magecraft prodigy, it's far more likely that the two are both products of their ages. With Touko being forced to excel in pragmatism thanks to her environment, and Medea, being taught by a literal Goddess of Magecraft, was effectively just taught the opposite. After all, deities aren't exactly the sorts of beings known for the pragmatism. At least under circumstances, and especially not the Greek ones.
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"Right, and what exactly are you planning to do with Caster?" Illya seems to still want more information about your plan, even if it's still in the early stages and you don't really know yourself. You can tell that the girl must just be worried about getting her Servant back. You can't blame her for being slightly paranoid about the prospect of failure once again. The last time you went to the temple without planning you suffered a humiliating retreat at the hands of the altered servants, thankfully though, other than some superficial injuries dealt to Lancer and Beaky, who seems to really only appear when Betty needs it, there wasn't any real damage done. Except to your own pride, you suppose. Even if it was something you couldn't have possibly planned for, you still find yourself thinking that your planning prior to the war was insufficient. How could an oversight the size of the grail being further corrupted have passed you by?

Setting aside your own thoughts on what you consider to be your failure to remain vigilant for potential changes that could end up ruining everything for a moment, you instead answer Illya's question "Isn't it obvious? All we need to do is have Caster teleport everyone through the first line of the temple's defenses, then, while the first line of their defense is confused by our sudden appearance, we can dispose of them with relative ease!" While you will kind of feel bad sending the altered servants back to their graves once again, it's a necessary evil, if it can even be called that. They aren't the heroes they once were anymore, and you don't really have the luxury of being able to test if you can break the hold of whatever evil has ensnared them with Caster's help. At least death will be a mercy that you can actually grant them. Thought it might be an idea to see what sort of effect Rule Breaker has on an Altered Servant. If an opportunity comes up, there's obviously no reason not to at least try to see if you can usurp control over your enemies own strength. If you managed to pull that off, you feel like the balance of power would shift in your favor to a tremendous degree

'Interesting, I see you aren't going to leave anything to chance here, Master. Doesn't it feel a little bit like cheating to you though? For our enemies to go through so much effort in setting up their defenses, only to have a far more talented magic user just bypass them in their entirety.' Caster laughs very briefly through the mental link. Seems like she has no opposition to this plan. In fact, she seems to be relishing in being able to show off her magical superiority, it seems.
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'I'm glad that you enjoy the first stage of our attack plan, Caster.' This plan would've been in quite the odd place already if Caster was unable or unwilling to teleport everyone inside the bounded field of Fuyuki's temple. You also considered having her just scry for Avenger to teleport him away, but there wouldn't be much point to that, you think. Whatever is keeping Avenger trapped inside the temple is able to resist the spatial transportation effect of the Command Spells, so simply attempting the same thing through a different method with Caster would be an exercise in futility.

Illya seems relatively pleased by your chosen plan. "That's a... plan I can support to stop whatever thieving monster is trying to steal Avenger from me." Illya doesn't really seem to get on very well with Caster right now, unfortunately, but even she can't deny the magical brilliance of a highly skilled Caster like Medea. You look at Illya in the rear view, and her expression changes to one of intense hatred and loathing for the unknown adversary behind the Servant theft as she recalls just how she lost . Or well, attempted Servant theft right now. Avenger must be excellent at resisting commands and control if it's taken so long for something with the full power of the grail to corrupt him.

You turn around in your seat to give Illya a reassuring smile. "Don't worry Illya. I have complete faith in both Caster and all the Servants in our faction. They're all very strong. They won't fail." Of course, you won't be bringing Illya along. Sakura will also be staying at the mansion too. While the two of them might have a lot of raw magical power and Sakura if she had the inclination to fight could very easily ruin a Servants day with her own magecraft, the two of them aren't exactly... experienced with battles.. Bringing them along would almost certainly turn them into liabilities that require protecting. Shirou, Rin, Bazett and Monica however are all strong and experienced enough in how to act in a fight that it's somewhat safe to take them along. Monica's destructive output is about on the level of a Servant anyway, and Rin with her gems is capable of dishing out enough damage to kill Servants that don't have high level magic resistance. Then there's Shirou and Bazett, both of whom wield Noble Phantasms. Though Shirou wields a significant amount more than Bazett does, both of them could be terribly effective in the approaching battle.
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It isn't that much longer until Saber has finished driving back, and after a few instructions, she manages to park it in the garage. As you get out of the car, you think of something you know that you really really do not want to mess up. You check your phone and find that there's a single unread message. You quickly open it and read the brief message from one of your men. 'Warehouse 3." Looks like they must've been successful in their task, and in record time as well! Though that does leave you a final thing to decide in regards to the seductive oni...

>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
>Put off meeting Shuten until after you've finished with the attack. (Attack occurs before 11pm.)
>Write-in...
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)

Tell sakura we are going to meet with someone dangerous. And that if I dont return that the attack should be called off and to prepare for a counter attack.
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>>4481429
>Put off meeting Shuten until after you've finished with the attack. (Attack occurs before 11pm.)

this carries the risk of getting caught up in some mess once we pop the temple. But if zouken is aligned with what's happening inside and he knows we have a date with shuten he is unlikely to expect us to make another move at the temple before that, or to try to raid our home.

If we do the attack afterwards and Shuten will tell zouken illya, sakura or both are relatively unprotected while we're busy raiding the temple we're asking for problems.
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>>4481425
>Put off meeting Shuten until after you've finished with the attack. (Attack occurs before 11pm.)
Just have the faceless goons deliver the alcohol like we planned before. No need to fuck ourselves over with possible complications when avenger is on a time limit.
We never did promise to meet shuten, we only promised her alcohol.
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
I want Shuten to be busy with the booze while we assault the temple, I don't want her to suddenly appears towreak havoc or target Illya and Sakura.
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>>4481425
>Put off meeting Shuten until after you've finished with the attack. (Attack occurs before 11pm.)
there's less risk of putting the meeting off after the attack. We have to worry about Sakura and Illya staying back, worst case scenario can happen if we meet up with Shuten before
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>>4481425
Go and see shuten
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)

Tell sakura we are going to meet with someone dangerous. And that if I dont return that the attack should be called off and to prepare for a counter attack.
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>>4481425
>Put off meeting Shuten until after you've finished with the attack. (Attack occurs before 11pm.)
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>>4481425
>Put off meeting Shuten until after you've finished with the attack. (Attack occurs before 11pm.)
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Is the shirou Fag samefagging again?
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
Do the face-to-face meeting, as is proper. And then proposition for sex.
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>>4481461
i'm kinda lost rn, what's this i hear about a shiroufag samfagging? What did he do before?
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>>4481471
He said that uses multiple ips to rig votes. He's the reason we wasted so much time with Kerry
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>>4481471
The ESL coomer threw a fit earlier in the thread because a post mentioned Shirou.
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>>4481473
If you want my opinion as a QM, it's probably just a troll trying to false flag.
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>>4481476
I hope so.
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>>4481474
wait so he hates Shirou? What?
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>>4481485
You don't?
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>>4481461
Are you referring to Put off meeting votes and previous thread drama?
Because I personaly have no interests in both Shirou and Illya.
And I hoping to get to main action and mystery here since anons voted to avoid playing part of Case Files earlier on so I do not see reason to postpone now.
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
More fun to do it, than not.
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>>4481493
Shirou is based, so no
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Any faggotry I missed?
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>>4481501
Missing autistic rants about that would canon Shinji do and how we should do it just because.
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>>4481501
I'm the manaka guy...
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>>4481501
Its just absurd we still have our v card, just sayin
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>>4481501
I just want to make Touko and/or Medea a mother. I don't care about anyone else. My weakness to powerful witches will be the death of me.
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>>4481513
A noble goal.
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>>4481501
To be fair most problems can be solved with dickings in this universe.
That's why Merlin is so successful.
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>>4481515
Merlin was a NEET who spent his time shitposting from Avalon.
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>>4481517
Yeah but he's a half-incubus sex wizard at the same time.
He knows the forbidden spell of futanari.
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>>4481510
This
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Shuten has no magic resistance right?
Why not just have Caster bind her and Rurubureaka her while she's drinking?
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>>4481513
>touko and/or medea
You are a man of justice.
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>>4481538
she's an Oni so she has some type of Magic Resistance
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
Will the attack taking place after or before 11pm have any effects on it?
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
>>4481558
Yes.
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The only effect early attack will probably have is gonna be us missing time of Shuten's meeting.
Why did we even buy alcohol If we gonna just ignore this opportunity,
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>>4481438
>If we do the attack afterwards and Shuten will tell zouken illya, sakura or both are relatively unprotected while we're busy raiding the temple we're asking for problems.
And how would Shuten know that?
Are You going to tell her?
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>>4481441
good idea anon supporting
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>>4481501
>got my post in lolifag in the meme compilation
Based
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
I really don't want to end up in a situation where we're forced to run through the would for hours and miss our meeting with Shuten.
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>>4481501
Dragonblood faggotry.
Which we pussied out on.
>>4481547
No?
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>>4481558
We either lose out on Shuten or Avenger it seems.
Aka you're picking between Shuten and Ilya, pick whichever character you prefer.
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I dont know a single fucking thing about Fate or its lore.

Please help
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>>4481506
>>4481591
I'll add these if I ever do a v2. don't count on it.
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>>4481593
Just watch Tsukihime anime.
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
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>>4481592
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>>4481592
I don't see why it would be a binary choice.
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No but seriously let's just test out our teleport strat on Shuten and cuck grampa out of his oni slut with Rule Breaker.
Shuten will probably need a fuckload of magical energy though.
Probably why she ate so many people already.
Dealing with Shuten sooner rather than later is a wise idea before she decides to eat somebody we like.
Or us.
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>>4481643
We need to meet her and let her taste our mana. Have Caster or someone as back up incase she gets too overworked on how good we taste. Once she see how great she is we can tell her if she joins us she'll have access to it whenever she wants.
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>>4481652
*See how great we taste
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>>4481652
Think she already had a taste of our blood.
Odds are she's just luring us into presenting ourselves to her as food along with expensive alcohol.
She'll dead end us one hundred percent if we go in without a plan.
So it's probably unwise to go with no plan unless you guys want the dead end where Shuten eats us. I kinda do ngl.
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>>4481663
Yeah but surely a kiss would be better than blood.
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>>4481667
Yes but she can just take everything if she just eats us in our entirety.
Don't think trying to seduce the literal man eater is a good idea without a safety net.
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>>4481673
Yeah that's why I said Caster or someone
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>>4481501
All jokes aside, I am absolutely 100% beyond a doubt sure that it is Manaka this time.
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I want to be eaten by Shuten!
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
We need to do this now. Perhaps if we are lucky we can get Shuten on our side.
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>>4481652
>We need to meet her and let her taste our mana
That sounds like a terrible idea, Medea had to hold herself back when she tasted us, Shuten is an Oni and with even LESS restraint
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>>4481506
fuck the canon shinju guy what a fucking retard nerd holy shit if i ever find him irl i will smack him
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>>4481506
Shinji got murdered by Sakura and Illya, why would you wanna do what he would do in any given situation
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)

Lets not make an enemy of her.

>>4481513

Same, but also with Monica thrown in.
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
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>>4481592
We can easily do both.
We can go meet Shuten and then have whole night for Avenger.
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>>4481879
Speaking of Monica, do we have a stockpile of metal ingots placed throughout the house for her to make liberal use should the situation warrant it?
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>>4481879
Yeah Monica is good too but Medea/Touko are my top priority.
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>>4481796
It would be a nice dead end or failure. Miss the attack on the temple because spending literally all night blasting endless loads balls deep into Shuten Douji, engaged in the most hedonistic sex possible, and then dying because she can't help herself and drains Shinji dry. Using Truth to get Shuten knocked up would be great though
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>>4482059
so like Tsukihime where Shiki raping someone is a bad end
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>>4481796
>with even LESS restraint
With no restraint. She describes herself as a hedonist who act and live with her impulses.
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>>4482078
yeah she's either gonna eat us or fuck us to death if she gets a taste so, lets not
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>>4482099
I agree. Give her the booze, maybe make a joke or two to try to guess who her Master is and gtfo. All under the supervision of Caster.
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
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Today is going to have to be another single update day unfortunately. I've had my hands a little bit full with the aftermath of the tree falling, so I've not really had too much time to write. It's a pain, but then again so is almost dying thanks to my neighbour's negligence in proper tree care.

So I'll just leave you with this.
You're not forgetting anything important, right?
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>>4482678
yo whatis, just wanted to apologize for the /qtg/ shitstorm caused by the meme.
100% did not expect such a shitstorm.
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>>4482678
>SAlter
SAlter's spammy Excalibur will be a pain to deal with that's for sure. Assuming that she does have an infinite mana supply to spam Excalibur like in HF. Can we get Caster to teleport behind her and Rule Break her in a literal "pssh nuthin' personal kid" move before she can react?
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>>4482721
Archer can use his bullshit technique he created specifically to counter Saber. If a half brain dead Shirou can pull it off, Archer definitely can
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>>4482678
>You're not forgetting anything important, right?
Monica?
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>>4482678
I dunno. I think Touko is still trying to scry Shirou for nothing, that's all that comes to mind.
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>>4482741
Would him showing up throw a wrench in our plans? Other than that I think everyone is in consensus of bringing Monica and everyone we have recruited so far in storming the temple. Is Touko scrying for Shirou gonna throw a wrench in our plans somehow?
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>>4482761
Maybe? You never know, Touko is kinda weird.
Also, I think waiting for the attack might risk Betty falling asleep but her narcolepsy is kind of random or plot convenient.
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>>4482761
Bringing Illya and Sakura to temple is a bad idea.
They are both lesser grails and them being anywhere close to corrupted grail can lead to problems.
In fact
>>4481424
>Of course, you won't be bringing Illya along. Sakura will also be staying at the mansion too. While the two of them might have a lot of raw magical power and Sakura if she had the inclination to fight could very easily ruin a Servants day with her own magecraft, the two of them aren't exactly... experienced with battles.. Bringing them along would almost certainly turn them into liabilities that require protecting.
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
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>>4481425
>Write-in...
>ask Shirou to go meet Shuten and convince her to become his second servant
He can do it, she will fell for him.
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>>4481425
>>4482899
Changing to>>4482902
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>>4482902
You just want him to die don't You.
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>>4482678
Im just here to watch the fire
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>>4482721
Caster isn't fast and Saber Alter has Instinct skill, you are sending Caster to her death with this plan.
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>>4482902
This is the dumbest thing ever but I do admit it is pretty funny.
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You'll go and meet her before you go ahead with the actual attack. You don't know just how your assault is going to go at this point. You feel like you've got enough power on your side now for it to be a success, but that still doesn't mean it's going to go perfectly. There are fairly decent odds that you'll be too injured or exhausted from the assault on the temple to actually go ahead with your meeting with Shuten if you plan it for before the time you're supposed to meet the enigmatic oni. You doubt that you're going to get another chance to make a good impression on the girl if you mess this up, and if things end up going really well then you can potentially even get Shuten on board with the assault! She's tremendously powerful, and would easily be capable of dispatching any of the corrupted Servants guarding the temple. Of course, you doubt that things are going to be so simple when it comes to dealing with her. Her Master obviously wants you dead already, so you might even need to be wary of a command spell having been used on her.

Musings on whether or not your scheduled meeting with Shuten should be prioritized over your attack on the temple aside, you finish the brief trek into your mansion and start making your way towards the dining room with everyone else in tow. Betty seems half asleep again, but has yet to actually allow herself to slumber. 'Betty. I think you ought to go and get some sleep upstairs for a while, OK? I'll fill you in on the plan we go for later on, when you wake up.' You quickly mentally instruct the girl to get a few hours of sleep before the attack. The last thing you need is your plan falling apart because Betty suddenly fell asleep instead of playing her part in the plan. Besides, she's not really going to be any assistance in planning anything anyway. You feel like you know enough of the abilities she possesses now to properly represent her in her stead when it comes to planning with everybody.

'Alright, Master. Just wake me up if you need anything though, OK?' Betty responds to you nearly instantly as she retakes spiritual form and lazily floats upstairs to one of the many bedrooms in the house. You hardly had to convince her at all. She must've really been trying her hardest not to fall asleep for the day. You probably ought to think of some way to reward her for her hard work. Though she speaks of waking her up like it's a simple thing for you to do. At least she uses slightly less of your magical energy when she's asleep, so it's not like there's absolutely no positives to her Narcolepsy. That's not to say that it's not horribly inconvenient most of the time though. On the bright side, you didn't end up summoning a genuinely evil Servant or something, and Betty does seem to be very powerful. You've not even seen her Noble Phantasm yet, and she's still highly capable as a combatant thanks to her familiars... when she's awake.
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As you open the door to the dining room, It's about 7PM right now, so with any luck, everyone should be waiting for you. Sure enough, as the door finishes opening, you can see Rin and Bazett waiting for you around the table. No sign of Monica though. She's probably still off investigating potential leads to follow in the grail war. It's kind of a shame that she's not here, but you suppose she's not entirely crucial to the planning process on account of not actually being a Master. Still, she could have vital information about the war she's gathered for you, and it is kind of annoying to be forced to leave Monica out of this stage of things. If she's not back in time, you might not even be able to rely on her power either. The form of magecraft she utilizes is perfect for harming Servants without any form of Magic Resistance, and you just so happen to know that the blackening process undergone by the altered Servants usually damages a Servant's innate resistance to magecraft, usually, at least. You aren't about to proclaim yourself to be an expert on the mechanics of which a Servant operates, even if you have a large amount of information on specific Servants and their capabilities and identities. You've never really had the chance to properly research a Servant and the magic that makes up their bodies. You wonder just how Truth might be able to effect Servants for a moment
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"Ah good. You're back from your trip, and just in time too." Rin is sitting on the table opposite to Bazett. Both of them don't have their Servants present. "If you're wondering about Archer, I'm having him keep watch." She pauses awkwardly, and Bazett looks a little bit embarrassed as she does. "Of course, Lancer decided he was going to help, but I think he's just using it as an opportunity to try to irritate my Servant by trying to find his sniping spots and hiding locations. Not that I really care, if Lancer can find where Archer is hiding, then so can an enemy Servant. It means it wasn't a good enough location in the first place." Well, at least Lancer sounds like he's having fun. Rin doesn't really seem to care too much about Archer basically just being bullied by Lancer at this point. You kind of feel bad for Archer, but Lancer does sort of have a point when it comes to getting in Archer's way. After all, in many ways, the Archer class is a lot like the Assassin class, only with the potential to be far more effective. You've only really got one shot against an opponent who is physically superior to you in practically every way, so you better make it count before they close the distance. Though there are... certain exceptions to the rule. EMIYA himself is a rare Archer with the ability to go toe-to-toe with melee oriented Servants in close quarters. Even if winning is unlikely for him against somebody like Lancer or Saber in a battle on their own terms, the very fact that victory in that situation is a possibility for him at all speaks volumes of just how talented he is. "Oh right, and the homunculus left here decided that she was going to start patrolling the perimeter of the property. I tried to tell her it wasn't needed, but but of course she didn't want to listen to me." Rin sounds more than a little frustrated at what you can only imagine was her just being completely ignored in her efforts to communicate with a stubborn homunculus.
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Everyone slowly begins to take their seats around the dining table, Caster sits down next to you with superhuman agility that you thought her incapable of. Though you suppose that Caster is still a Servant. She might be slow compared to other Servants, but in most scenarios, she's far faster than a human could ever hope to be just by default. Lines do begin to blur however if magecraft is involved. With significantly less speed, but still as much enthusiasm, Sakura takes the open space next to you, while everyone else just sits around the table at random. It's a huge table, and there's more than enough space for everyone. It's also round, just because you liked the idea of being able to tease Saber about her identity. You sweep your gaze across the table at everyone, they are all locked on to you. Looks like they are waiting for you to start things off.

>"Before we get started, I think we ought to get everyone together. Caster, I'm going to need you to scry somebody for me in order to teleport them back here. Rin, Bazett, would you mind getting your Servants, please?"
>"Does anybody have anything they want to share before we get started? Potential plans or information that might help us make a plan?"
>"OK, here's the plan...
>>Basic Teleport Strike plan. (Everyone capable of fighting is teleported into the Temple.)
>>Write-in plan.
>Write-in...
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>>4483093
Place a hand on casters thigh then sakuras then
>"Before we get started, I think we ought to get everyone together. Caster, I'm going to need you to scry somebody for me in order to teleport them back here. Rin,
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>>4483093
>"Before we get started, I think we ought to get everyone together. Caster, I'm going to need you to scry somebody for me in order to teleport them back here. Rin, Bazett, would you mind getting your Servants, please?"
I have mixed feelings on this. On the one hand teleporting Shuten here would certainly be interesting. But on the other its a possible bad end
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>>4483097
Shinji is referring to Monica here. Not Shuten.
Monica is off doing her own thing again.
Though if you want to teleport Shuten too, you can.
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>>4483093
>"Before we get started, I think we ought to get everyone together. Caster, I'm going to need you to scry somebody for me in order to teleport them back here. Rin, Bazett, would you mind getting your Servants, please?"
After everyone is together tell them all possible enemy Servants and their abilities.
Mention potential intervention from Gil.
Ask for input from presented Servants, Bazzet and Monica.
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>>4483093
>Write-in
>"Before we get started, I want to announce that we're going to get married" you said while placing your hand to caster's
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>>4483093
>>"Before we get started, I think we ought to get everyone together. Caster, I'm going to need you to scry somebody for me in order to teleport them back here. Rin, Bazett, would you mind getting your Servants, please?"
>>4483110
Coomforce please.
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>>4483110
>*sakura's

>>4483093
>"Before we get started, I think we ought to get everyone together. Caster, I'm going to need you to scry somebody for me in order to teleport them back here. Rin, Bazett, would you mind getting your Servants, please?"
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>>4483106
+1
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>>4483110
>*Illya's
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>>4483093
>"Before we get started, I think we ought to get everyone together. Caster, I'm going to need you to scry somebody for me in order to teleport them back here. Rin, Bazett, would you mind getting your Servants, please?"
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You know how Lancer can up his NP rank using Runes enough that he's able to bypass God Hand? We should probably make him do that before we teleport in
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>>4483106
Supporting
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>>4483106
Support.
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>>4483110
Support.
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>>4483095
Support
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>>4483093
This >>4483106
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>>4483106
Support. Also just how powerful is Manaka if she is the Master we are facing? I listened to Fate Prototype Fragments and she is as powerful as a servant maybe even more so since she has connections to the root. Some notable instances of her was when she was able to stop Brynhildr's spear with a finger and make Ozymandias and Paracelsus shit their pants proclaiming her as some kind of dark god. She maybe even more powerful than Dark Sakura if that is true.
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>>4483270
She's the Beast of Revelations which puts her far beyond servant level, you'd need some absolute bullshit to kill her off if she's at full power
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>>4483270
We won't have to worry if we wife her.
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>>4483093
>>4483106
support
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>>4483106
support
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>>4483270
>She maybe even more powerful than Dark Sakura if that is true.
Dark Sakura isn't that powerful compared to some other people, honestly.
She only managed to defeat Gilgamesh because he got overconfident (as always), but against people like Arcueid or Aoko, she would be completely screwed.
She also has no hope of defeating or controlling any of the Beasts, for that matter.

>>4483281
Manaka isn't the Beast of Revelations.
In Prototype, the Beast of Revelations is completely subservient to her, however. It's surprising that everyone seems to think that Manaka is involved in this somehow.
Whatever could've given you that idea?
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>>4483756
Damn, guess i got my info mixed up since Nero is is supposed to be one part of Beast VI and the Beast of Revelations is the other
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>>4483250
Are You supporting your own post?
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>>4483756
>however. It's surprising that everyone seems to think that Manaka is involved in this somehow.
Whatever could've given you that idea?
M-manaka bros what do we do?
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>>4483802
We combine our coomer powers to will her into existence.
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>>4483802
Unless we're secretly Arthur, we weren't getting Manaka anyways.
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>>4483756
>It's surprising that everyone seems to think that Manaka is involved in this somehow. Whatever could've given you that idea?
Female in the grail
Summons 6 servants from the past grail war
Could be not Manama but the past servants seems really specific.
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>>4483808
She already has an "Arthur" although Alter Artoria is a woman. Romancing Manaka is so out of character for where our character is at right now.
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>>4483866
I don't really care for Manaka, just pointing out that she only wants blonde kings.
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>>4483756
>She also has no hope of defeating or controlling any of the Beasts, for that matter.
I suppose that's correct, but it's worth pointing out that she can be body-hijacked by Kama-Mara (Beast 3-L?)
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Another single update day it looks like. Sorry guys.
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>>4484136
Damn it I'd pay you hundreds to forget that
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>>4484136
It's ok Sacchin
Shinji is only gaining experience to make your first time even more special.
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>>4484136
Its ok man. Sometimes life just gets in the way
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You look at your allies as they eagerly await you starting the meeting and you tap on your fingers on the table quietly as you begin to address them. "Before we get started, I think we ought to actually have everyone in the same room in order to discuss our next move. That means I'm going to need Rin and Bazett to go make sure that Lancer isn't trying to steal Archer's lunch money or something." You smirk as you think about how Lancer and Archer, two Servants destined to pretty much hate each other, are being forced to play nice due to the state of the war.

"Hey!" Rin cries out in a vain attempt to defend Archer. Unfortunately for Rin however, your assessment of the situation is practically spot on. Cu Chulainn has a personal skill that practically allows him to bully Archers with ease. In fact, he's so well equipped for fighting against Archers, he can even delay Gilgamesh, easily the strong of all Archers, for actual hours! Of course, that fight would've been over in an instant if Gilgamesh opened with either Ea or Enkidu, but the fact that Lancer was capable of such a thing means that outside of trying to overwhelm him within his Reality Marble, Archer basically has no hope of defeating Lancer. Of course, getting Lancer inside of Reality Marble would also require him to recite the long aria without Lancer deciding to just use the throw or thrust of Gae Bolg to put an end to the battle immediately.

"What can I say Rin? I'd suggest you bring it up with Lancer himself if you want him to stop trying to antagonize Archer. Besides, I think it's all just the two of them trying to one-up each other anyway, so there's no real harm in letting them do as they wish, at least that's what I think." Really, the best you can hope for the relationship between Archer and Lancer is a somewhat friendly rivalry where the two of them won't try to murder each other the moment their Master's turn their backs to them.

Bazett coughs. "Regardless, I think I ought to instruct Lancer to conduct himself in a more professional manner. While it's all well and good that he is testing Archer's skill at defending our base of operations, I think he might've gotten a little bit too carried away with himself." Yeah, that would probably be for the best, rivalry aside. Lancer spending his time trying to one-up the Archer does however have the highly beneficial side-effect of having two powerful Servants practically always patrolling the grounds of your mansion whenever the two of them are there together. It's highly probable that Lancer just considers tracking down Archer to be a fun side-activity while he keeps watch for any intruders. Though in regards to eyesight, Archer has Lancer beaten as one might expect of the class container designed for long-ranged combat.
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Rin frowns. "If Archer is the one behind antagonizing your Servant to act this way, I'll be sure to tell him to stop too." Rin sighs. This obviously wasn't how she expected the Grail War would end up going for her, fighting alongside so many other Masters including an Enforcer from the Clock Tower. Of course, the grail war never ends up how Rin might've expected it to go, but not usually on the very first days of the war. Of course, now it might actually be safe to tell Rin about why Kirei Kotomine cannot be at all trusted. But you just know that the moment you tell Rin that Kirei was responsible for sinking the very dagger he gave her as a gift into her father's back that Rin will practically go berserk. Right now, odd as it might seem, Kirei isn't even close to a priority right now. Gilgamesh is a strong second place, but you can't really plan for a serious Gilgamesh, only attempt to minimize damage, with your faction the way it is, Gilgamesh likely won't consider playing about to be a viable strategy like he normally does. A peaceful solution with Gilgamesh is also extremely unlikely too. You can really only hope to knock him off guard by having Saber challenge him to a one on one duel in order to secure the victory with Avalon.

The two women leave the room without any more words exchanged between you. They shouldn't be too long in retrieving their Servants, and they probably could've just mentally commanded them to come along. God only knows what they are up to. You're too busy to want to follow them or find out just what it is the two of them are planning though. You hope neither of them get lost in your home. It's really quite large and Rin and Bazett shouldn't be all too familiar with the layout just yet. If they get lost, then you'll just have to have Caster teleport them to you.

Speaking of Caster. 'I'm going to need you to do some scrying for me, Caster. I need to find my friend and bodyguard who is likely still out investigating for me.' You really ought to find out just what Monica's continuing investigations have managed to find out before plotting to deal with the temple. After all, she may have just found a cooperative Master who would be willing to assist you in your attack.

'Of course, Master. I'll just need her real name and I should be able to get a clear image of her. It can't be an alias though. Medea bluntly states within your mind. You can tell that your allies are getting a little confused by how silent you're being. Rider and Saber at least seem to understand what's going on though.
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'Her name? It's Monica Eisenmann. Is that really all you need to know in order to find her? It sounds pretty ridiculous that all Medea needs to seek somebody out is their name. Magi from the Age of Gods really are terrifyingly powerful. At least it seemed like Touko needed to have more information for her own scrying spell, even if she ended up knowing enough about her target already that all she needed was the name in order to get a clear enough mental image of her target. But if all Medea needs is the name itself, that's far more powerful. The very fact that Touko actually has her own scrying spell at all just goes to show how powerful she is though. Even the limitations of modern magecraft can hardly hold her back from doing whatever it is that she wants. Of course, you don't actually really even know what motivates Touko. It's not really like she's making any major plays for the Root, and if she wanted to, she definitely would be able to eventually reach the ultimate goal of all magi.

'With this particular method of scrying, that is correct. Though the range on something like trying to seek somebody out by name alone is of course limited. But it usually has great effect when I need to find somebody in an area I know them to reside in. I can perform a slightly different scrying ritual if I have a sample of their blood or the blood of one of their relatives that has an unlimited range, but I don't suppose you have that on hand, did you?' Your silence in response to Medea's question is all the answer that she needs in order to decide that you obviously don't.

'Very well then, I'll begin without any further delay, Master.' A jagged mirror appears in the air in front of Caster, conjured entirely by her power, and the reflective surface of the mirror quickly begins to shift and change away from Caster's reflection and it shifts into the familiar appearance of Monica. But something is very wrong.
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Monica has a nasty cut running across her face that seems to have only just missed taking out one of her eyes, she's panting in exertion, and there's sparks of electricity crackling around her as she leans against a brick wall, struggling to stand. She's under attack! You need to do something before it's too late! You already find yourself preparing for a battle against an enemy even from behind the reflective glass of the mirror Caster has summoned. Caster doesn't seem to have any real reaction to the injuries that have been dealt to the woman, not that you really expected her to care at all about a woman she's never met before. Your breath catches when you notices a large red stain on the front of her white shirt, obviously where she's been pierced with some sort of sword or spear. Whoever she's up against has obviously defeated her.

>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
>Have Medea teleport only yourself and Caster. You don't need to reveal all your cards right now, and if the situation is too dangerous she can always get you away in time.
>Have Medea teleport everyone except Sakura and Illya to Monica. Whoever is attacking her is about to get a nasty surprise. You're going to obliterate them.
>Have Medea keep scrying but look for the cause of Monica's wounds, observe the situation in order to make sure that you can respond in the best way. Monica will just have to hold on a tiny bit longer.
>Write-in...
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>>4484553
Teleport her and focus on healing.
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>>4484553
>>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
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Let's not waste our mana just before a majore battle.
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>>4484553
>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
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>>4484553
>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
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>>4484553
>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
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Does Betty have a keyhole?
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>>4484574
Wrong eldritch loli.
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>>4484574
Yes, in her cunny.
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>>4484553
>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.

Write In:
“Could you tell what class servant it was?”

Heres the thing. The enemy archer shoots fire so somebody like Tomoe makes sense, and we already have EMIYA and Gilgamesh, so unless theres a 4th Archer summoned somebody like like Tesla can be crossed off the list. Now we have 2 casters, Betty (she likely isn’t a caster but safe to include her here), and Medea. Now Medea was out on her own so the possibility of Edison being summoned doesn’t seem impossible (that is unless Betty really is a Caster which again she likely isn’t). Finally theres Frankenstein which I think we can also cross off since Berserker is to my knowledge Ibaraki Doji.

TLDR;
Going off of the servants that use electricity to my knowledge, and what classes have and have not been summoned, It might be Edison.
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>>4484607
Monica uses electricity.
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>>4484607
>Monica currently dying
>“Could you tell what class servant it was?”
Maybe you could fucking wait until she regain herself?
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>>4484619
Believe he meant Caster since she is the one looking at the scene.
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>>4484553
>>Have Medea teleport only yourself and Caster. You don't need to reveal all your cards right now, and if the situation is too dangerous she can always get you away in time.

she will probably see the Teleport thing like we did, and doge out of the way. Wouldn't want her to lose a leg like we did during a fight
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>>4484625
Why would You choose to teleport Caster in front of a likely melee specialized servant?
That seems like a bad idea.
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>>4484623
Yeah I meant Caster. Possibly should have clarified.

>>4484608
Welp guess I’m just retarded then
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>>4484629
eh
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>>4484553
>>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
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When we get this handled we need Caster to create a spell so we can talk telepathically with Monica or the whole team. Would help so much with communicating.
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>>4484629
To show off our abilites and make the enemy become our allies if it was a cute girl.
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why dont we just buy little ear pieces for everyone we are one of the richest men on the planet after all
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>>4484553
>>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
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>>4484674
Monica can't use tech.
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>>4484677
oh true well we should get like a mystic code or something then idk
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>>4484553
>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
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>>4484553
>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
Rescue the bodyguard wife!
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"Caster. Teleport her to us immediately. I want her out of danger as quickly as possible." You don't want the woman to remain in danger any longer than she has to. Whatever or whoever she's up against as clearly got her outmatched, and you don't enjoy seeing her in pain like this at all. In fact, you don't like seeing anybody you consider dear to you in pain, and you'll do whatever it takes to ensure that they don't have to go through such things as often as they otherwise would have to.

Caster nods quickly, before quietly speaking the words required of her to bring your friend to your dining room. It's quite odd that you get to see her reaction to realizing she's being teleported just moments before she disappears from sight and reappears in front of you. Thankfully, it seems that she wasn't able to respond to Medea's attempted teleport like you were, though you think that Medea may have ended up using a different method of teleportation for getting Monica out of there.

Monica collapses backwards onto the floor in a heap as she no longer has the support she was using to keep herself standing, and as she attempts to crawl to her feet, she looks around with an intense emotion in her eyes. She's clearly still prepared for a fight, but her expression softens upon locking eyes with you.

Of course, you don't allow her to attempt crawl for long, as you were already moving towards her to help her the moment she appeared before your eyes. You sling one of her arms around your shoulder and hoist her to her feet in the span of about ten seconds since she arrived. You talk quietly as you can hear the labored breathing of the older woman. "How bad are you hurt, Monica?" Your voice is full of concern as you go to assess the damage, but Monica grabs your hand as you're about to inspect her wound.

"Don't... touch it. The... blade was poisoned. If you touch the wound, the poison will get you too..." She tries to warn you away from inspecting her wound. "He... missed my vital organs... on purpose, I think. But the poison has... spread too much. I'm pretty much done for." You shake your head as she tries to warn you off of inspecting the damage done, and you lift up her shirt enough to see the large piercing wound left from her having been run through with a blade to her abdomen, she's too weak to stop you from doing so. It's a wonder that she's even still capable of moving or talking as she is with a wound that severe. Around the edges of the wound, you can see the veins underneath her skin that have turned black and corroded away from the magical poison or curse that this mysterious enemy has inflicted Monica with. "S-stop." She once again tries to ward you away from touching the obviously magical wound, the failed attempt causing her to tumble to the ground again and for you to lay the woman on the floor. You're going to need to magically operate on her immediately, that much is clear.
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"No. I'm not going to let you die, Monica." You tell her sternly. You aren't just going to let her have some sort of heroic sacrifice when it's completely unnecessary to do so. If she's unaware of just how skilled you've become as a magus, that's fine. But she's not only disregarding that, but she's also disregarding the fact that you've got Caster right here! Even if you weren't capable of healing her wound, which you are already in the process of beginning to do so, there's simply no way that Caster wouldn't have also been able to do so.

The woman locks eyes with you again, and reaches up with a hand to caress your face before talking, the relaxed place she's found herself in finally allowing her to become delirious from the incredible pain coursing through her body, she probably thinks that she's hallucinating right now. "You always did care so much about other people..." Damn it woman! Stop triggering your own death flags, you need to be healed! As you begin to reverse the damage to her abdomen, you take a glance over to the gash on her face. Thankfully, that wound doesn't appear to have been with the same poisoned blade, otherwise she would've likely already succumbed to the poison.

The blackened veins begin to return to their former color as you quite literally reverse the damage having ever been done in the first place with your incredible ability. Of course though, that doesn't mean that Monica is going to regain the energy she's already lost from the injuries in the first place. After all, you're only changing the damaged areas and the poison flowing through her veins, if you were to attempt to reverse her entire body rather than just the areas she needs healed, you would end up expending an enormous quantity of magical energy so quickly that you would almost certainly go over your limit and die.
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She slips into unconsciousness just as you finish healing the wound on her abdomen, and you have been so focused on trying to heal your friend that you didn't even notice when Caster began to use her own magecraft in order to heal up the damage on Monica's face. It would've been mostly superficial anyway, but it would've left her with a horrible scar had it been allowed to heal naturally. You'll need to thank Caster later for being so instrumental in saving Monica's life. Even if you did the heavy lifting when it came to actually healing Monica's wound, Caster was the only reason you were able to save her in the first place. It's a horrible thought that had you not taken the decision to gather everyone before your meeting, Monica would've ended up succumbing to the poison even had she successfully managed to flee from her opponent. Of course, now that you're certain that Monica isn't going to die, you want to know just how could've done this to her. However it was is going to pay. Your tunnel vision on Monica's injuries finally clearing up, your attention is drawn to a piece of paper clutched in her left hand, it seems to be some sort of poster or notification that she's torn from a wall.

Your interest piqued, you maneuver the piece of paper out of her hands and begin reading through it. The front half of the piece of paper is worthless to you, just a bunch of information on a local meet-up for some athletics club, but the real message Monica wanted to get across to somebody is written on the back of the piece of paper in her own blood...

"Sixth." You read the message aloud for everyone to hear, but nobody seems to have any more clue than you do on the short message. You don't really know what she could have meant by a single word. It's really very vague. You'll just have to think about it or hope something comes to you. Of course, you can also just wait for Monica to wake up too. It should be a few hours till she's recovered enough that waking her up is a possibility at all, but you can find out exactly what she meant by her message when she's on her feet again, or even if she's just conscious.
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The rest of the room has been thankfully quiet as they looked upon you and Caster healing the heavily injured woman, but it seems that they've realized that the danger to Monica's life has passed now. "Is she going to be OK, Onii-chan?" Sakura calls out to you, snapping you fully out of your focus on Monica. The two women got along alright, all things considered. Sakura has always been grateful to Monica for the role she played in helping get Zouken out of her life, and is obviously worried for the older woman.

>Take Monica up to her bedroom again. Make sure you don't slip and fall on her bed this time though. It was awkward enough the first time.
>Ask Rider to take Monica up to her bedroom. She's far stronger than you are, and will be able to effortlessly carry the unconscious woman up the flights of stairs.
>Ask Caster to teleport Monica to her bedroom. It'll be far quicker this way and Monica will be disturbed the least
>Actually... an infusion of your magical energy ought to be enough to allow Monica to awaken now. But is kissing her really a good idea in front of all your allies?
>Write-in...
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>>4485818
>Actually... an infusion of your magical energy ought to be enough to allow Monica to awaken now. But is kissing her really a good idea in front of all your allies?
No need to think about shame or what not, we got a raid to do.
Some intimate deep kisses wouldn't hurt anyone.
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>>4485818
>>Take Monica up to her bedroom again. Make sure you don't slip and fall on her bed this time though. It was awkward enough the first time.
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>>4485821
It is not "intimate" when You do it in front of dozen people.
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>>4485818
Take her up to her bedroom and give her some mana.
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>>4485830
Being intimate is about how aggresive the kisses are. It doesn't have anything to do with people watching and what not.
Also, she could be holding a vital information that could affect the raid. Better to know now than later.
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>>4485818
How much draining would the kiss be? cause we are likely going to need some juice for the assault and possibly for our date with demon as well. Then again, her intel may be invaluable for either...
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>>4485832
Support
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>>4485818
>Take Monica up to her bedroom again. Make sure you don't slip and fall on her bed this time though. It was awkward enough the first time.
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>>4485818
Kissu time.
What does Sixth mean?
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>>4485818
>Take Monica up to her bedroom again. Make sure you don't slip and fall on her bed this time though. It was awkward enough the first time.
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>>4485818
>>Take Monica up to her bedroom again. Make sure you don't slip and fall on her bed this time though. It was awkward enough the first time.
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>>4485854
Maybe sixth seal? Or someone with title or rank?
One reason to wake her up right away I guess
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>>4485818
>>Take Monica up to her bedroom again. Make sure you don't slip and fall on her bed this time though. It was awkward enough the first time.
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>>4485865
It could be rank. Since Qm seems to have made a lot of references to Fate Prototype because of Manakafags. It could be the sixth highest master degree Powers. But nobody was officially revealed in that rank in that Master position from Fate Prototype. In Fate Fragments however there was a Master ranked in Powers and summoned Hassan of Serenity as his servant who specialized in poisons and has a poisoned body. Powers dies as soon as he summoned Assassin though so that might be unlikely too. Unless there were timeline shenanigans since this grail war is extremely irregular.
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>>4485865
Yeah, but I guess the samefag will win this one and we'll never know what monica tried to tell us or when we know, it will already be too late.
At first I thought the samefag just don't want to us to think with our dick, but these just proved that the samefag is trying so very hard to make us so that we're untouched by girls.
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>>4485873
We kissed Medea in private, why can't we do the same for Monica? Knowing more about who potential rival Master and Servants are is important.
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>>4485874
Then support this
>>4485832
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>>4485832
Support
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>>4485876
I'll do that too then
Supporting>>4485832
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>>4485818
>>4485832
Support.
Whoever did this is not getting the BMC.
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Also is it around 6 and shuten appointment was around 8? With Monica caressing our face I see us giving her mana could lead to some nice one on one time.
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>>4485854
Sixth Holy Grail War
Beast-VI, the Sixth Beast
Out of a number of potential things, the Sixth one carries some special notice
Sixth-ranked Dead Apostle Ancestor
Thats all Igot
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>>4485832
Support. We don't need to go out of our way to cuck Sakura.
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>>4485832
+1
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>>4485832
Support. Tell sakura what we are going to do (minus the kissing)
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>>4485832
Support.
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>>4485889
>Sixth-ranked Dead Apostle Ancestor
>Rizo-Waal Strout
>Black Knight Strout. Possesses the magical sword Neardark. One of the top 3.
>Because of his curse of time, he is thought to be invincible. One of Altrouge's guards.
That would make some sense.
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>>4485832
Support. Time to dick her down and stop being a fucking virgin.
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>>4485953
Why would Monica know who the sixth-ranked DAA is that common knowledge?
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>>4485977
the DAA are common knowledge i'm pretty sure
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>>4485818
Changing from >>4485827
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>>4486095
And my ID changed again.
gM8g2FgV is me I swear.
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>>4486098
Use the snipping tool
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>>4486119
Like this?
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>>4486127
Yes comrade
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Kissu
>>4485821
>>4485854

>Up to bed
>>4485843
>>4485857
>>4485858
>>4485868

>Private kissu
>>4485832
>>4485839
>>4485876
>>4485877
>>4485879
>>4485881
>>4485905
>>4485906
>>4485925
>>4485926
>>4485967
>>4486095

Oho.
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>>4487048
Hey WhatIsAQM I've got a question.
Would Monica died if we didn't scry for her?
You don't have to answer. I am just trying to figure out what kind of QM You are.
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>>4487051
That's a secret, anon.
But something I doubt too many of you would've been happy with would've happened.
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>>4487053
Thank You for answering.
>But something I doubt too many of you would've been happy with would've happened.
I am going to guess that she would be turned into dead apostle by Rizo-Waal Strout.
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Could our Truth Healing undo the damage caused by Mystic Eyes of Death Perception?
We ought to be able to undo the injury Shiki has from Roa's shittier eyes for him though, right?
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>>4487063
Considering we basically erase the damage from having ocured in the first place? Yeah, it probably should work.
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[b]testing[/b], [i][b]ignore this[/b][/i]
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>>4487111
You have no power here!
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>>4487111
That you, OP?

>>4487068
If we ever actually get to it, the start of Tsukihime will be hilarious, in that case.
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>>4487118
nope, just trying to figure out how the text formatting is supposed to work
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>>4487118
It's kind of funny, Shinji is the key to Shiki achieving the TRUE ending.
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>>4487141
what's TRUE ending for Tsukihime? Roa dies and everyone lives?
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>>4487618
Shinji pulls a Persona 3 and sacrifices himself in order to make certain the big bad never returns.
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Dead thread
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"Everyone, I'm going to take Monica up to her room, alright? She needs to rest." You don't allow anyone to raise any argument as you scoop the woman up into your typical princess carry and leave the room quickly. Is this just what your life is coming to? Carrying maidens in distress or otherwise incapacitation? Honestly, even you're starting to think that this sort of stuff has started happening to you way too often. You've never been that romantically inclined, not really. Of course, you aren't blind to it, but you've always had more important things on your mind than allowing yourself to fall in love. Of course, Monica isn't really the sort of person you've ever really truly considered romantically anyway. While there's no denying that she's an attractive woman in her own right, the physical age difference between the two of you would just make things... strange. The woman is in her thirties, and you're just about eighteen. You try to keep that in mind as you carry Monica upstairs to her room.

The woman doesn't stir much in your arms as you carry her up the stairs, the physical exhaustion dealt by the surging adrenaline that quite literally kept her alive has now come crashing down on her. Coupled with the magical exhaustion of the overuse of her magic circuits, and she would normally be able to sleep for an entire day!

Of course, you have no intention of allowing Monica to sleep for that long. You're going to wake her up using... well, a tried and true method of waking up sleeping maidens. Especially ones that were poisoned. Yes, a kiss ought to be a good enough method for transferring your magical energy to Monica, with the magical energy of your body there should be more than is necessary for somebody like Monica in a single kiss. Monica is... an interesting case, when it comes to her magecraft, she doesn't bring it up by herself, but from what you gather, while she might have a theoretically infinite source of magical energy should she be conscious and able to transform the electrical energy of her surroundings into her own power, she's obviously incapable of using that particular ability when she's not actually awake. If she was truly giving it her all in that battle last night, you would have noticed it through the lights in your house flickering as she drew enormous amounts of energy from the cities electrical grid... or you would have, but you know better than to rely on the grid. It cost a fair amount, but your home is actually run mostly off of a large generator you keep in the basement. Your own wealth and preparations for the war almost came back to bite you! Had you not chosen that specific moment to look for Monica, the truth is that the woman probably wouldn't even be alive right now!
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It's a chilling thought, and not one you wish to dwell on. You try to clear your head as you push your way into Monica's room with a shoulder. You deftly avoid the small assortment of unopened metal cans of various drinks littered across the floor. Some of the drinks are alcoholic, and some non-alcoholic. There doesn't really seem to be a distinction between the two.

After you've finished navigating your way through the impromptu assault course, you finally lay Monica out on her bed, her unconscious body sinks lightly into the softness of the quilt. You then replace the gentle smile on your face with one of steely determination for a moment. You're just doing this for the sake of giving her enough magical energy to recover from her injuries. What you're about to do isn't wrong. You're doing it for a purpose. It's just like... mouth-to-mouth resuscitation! Right! You rationalize things in your head. Of course, while you don't doubt that your allies would very easily get the wrong idea if they saw you kissing this woman, it's really all their fault for being so juvenile. They're supposed to be magi, or at least aware enough of the mechanics of magic that they should understand that something like a kiss is simply an efficient method of transferring magical energy between two beings. It's hardly like you're going to need to conduct a more... traditional magical energy transfer ritual any time soon, either.

For some reason, you feel like you're hesitating more about the idea of kissing Monica than you were about kissing Caster. It has nothing to do with the appearance of the two women either. Both of them are highly attractive women, but... well, it really did help that Caster not only was awake to have the kiss, but she was also the one who suggested it in the first place! You suppose you've really got no choice though. You may as well bite the proverbial bullet and get this over with.

You slowly bring your face close to Monica's own. Her soft breaths aren't labored anymore, and the relief that brings you is immense in itself. For a moment, you almost back out of kissing Monica, but you aren't a coward. This is the fastest and quickest way to find out just what her message to you was meant to be. For all you know, she hadn't even finished writing her note, so 'Sixth' could mean just about anything. Seeing as there have been two sets of summoned Servants, it could even mean 'Sixth Grail War', because officially, it shouldn't actually be possible to summon so many servants in a single war. Though there are some... potential exceptions to that usual rule. You can't tell if this is one of these exceptions, or if somebody really has done something like create an additional Holy Grail. Monica would be the one to know, so without further ado, you bring your lips to hers and kiss her.
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While it's a little awkward to actually deeply kiss somebody unconscious, you only have to spend a few seconds attempting to do so before you find success. But almost the very moment you find that success, Monica's eyes snap open, and you find yourself staring down into the confused eyes of your bodyguard.

>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.
>Break off from the kiss and flirt with Monica.
>Break off from the kiss, reinforce your body, and leap through a window.
>Write-in...
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>>4488309
>>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>>4488303
No.
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Monica was just on the death door.
I don't think she is in the mood for romance.
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>>4488309
Continue kissing Monica
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>>4488313
Virgin
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>>4488318
Nice projection coomer.
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>>4488309
>>Break off from the kiss, reinforce your body, and leap through a window.
This is the only logical answer.
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>"Oh fuck I've been missing updates! Better check and see what fucked shit is going on no-"
>Shinji is kissing the shit outta an unconscious Monica.
God. Fucking damn it!
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>>4488331
That's what happens when coomers secure majority.
Join us! Together we can repel them.
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.

Assert dominance
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.

Commit dammit. we didn't get isekaied to be a bitch.
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.
This is our most retarded move yet and we have died several times. Whelp, gotta go all in now
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>>4488309
>>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.
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>>4488307
>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>>4488309
>>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
If homestuck could do it so can we.
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.
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>>4488332
>repel coomers
>adamantly refused to help illya and choose to let shirou do all the explaining even though we're mostly at fault for deceiving illya
>refused to have immediate contract with medea
>refused to immediately know what information Monica were holding
Yeah fuck you faggot, you're not repelling coomers, you're just trying to sabotage this run because we're not playing as shirou.
Stop being so obtuse.
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>>4488405
I have voted to run after Illya and princess carry her back to the Shirou's house.
I have voted to propose contract to Medea in the first place.
I have voted to take Monica to the bedroom and transfer mana to her. Right in this fucking thread you blind troglodyte.
Fuck off retard. I don't give a fuck about Shirou. I voted to ditch Kerry in the first place.
I bet you are that faggot who was whining about cucking for the last few threads.
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>>4488408
we aren't really cucking anyone either...
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>>4488405
A woman gets stabbed with a cursed sword through her chest. Loses consciousness while believing she is gonna die. Wakes up to us stuffing our tongue into her mouth.
Naturally in this situation we should continue kissing her.
Who gives a fuck about her opinion on the situation or information she might possess. We need to get our dick wet. That's what matters for retards like you above everything else.

>>4488418
I never said we did.
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>>4488309
>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>everyone presumes that if you aren't a coomer you have to be a shiroufag
surely theres a fallacy for this.
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Shirou is based and we should lose our v card to the any number of woman around us that would gladly take it
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Watching you retards fight is almost as good as the quest itself
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>>4488495
the quest is just a vehicle for the fights
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>>4488309
>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>>4488309
>break it off
>”excellent, it worked!”

Cool as a cucumber
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.
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>>4488309
>Break out the kiss gently, smile at her and tell her you are happy she is alive.
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>>4488309
>>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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Some people seem to take this quest way too seriously.
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>>4488309
>>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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I just wish we would get to the actual meeting today.
It has been 3 days since we exited our car.
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>>4488692
Just grab some popcorn and consider the autists part of the entertainment.
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>>4488309
>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>>4488692
They were also samefagging to no end whenever there's a choice for relationships though.
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>>4488309
>>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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Break off
>>4488310
>>4488359
>>4488363
>>4488438
>>4488542
>>4488691
>>4488708
>>4488722
>>4488726

>Break off gently
>>4488661

"Excellent, it worked!"
>>4488560

Continue
>>4488322
>>4488334
>>4488335
>>4488347
>>4488358
>>4488394
>>4488622

Flee.
>>4488328

Hmm.
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>>4488309
>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
As much as I wanna go all in on this, she just got through a fight for her life. Give her space, give her time.
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>>4488755
I am sorry but this >>4488322 is not a vote.
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>>4488766
This one is though. >>4488315
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>>4488315
>>4488772
Did You forget to change ID?
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>>4488779
No thought I voted but didn't see mine in whatis post so I voted then saw your post so deleted my post.
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>>4488755
Got hammered

>continue kissing Monica
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.

Shit QM. You did it again. I'm getting a very large boner rn
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>>4488309
Continue kissing
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing
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All those 1 post ID appearing at the last minute sure does not look weird at all.
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>>4488780
>>4488783
>>4488785
>>4488788
>gets caught samefagging
>keeps doing it anyway
absolute madlad
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>>4488792
Dude the update was 11 hours ago. Some people do sleep and wake up at normal times.
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>>4488795
Yeah, sure. 5 votes for the same result appear in the span of 10 minutes right after QM starts counting votes.
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>>4488800
OK shitrou Fag
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>>4488801
Eat shit faggot. Not everyone who calls out your samefagging is a shiroufag.
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>>4488792
Listen bro i dont samefag. I showed proof that I was not a samefag.
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>>4488803
My ip hasn't changed.
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>>4488804
What about 3 other 1 ID posts posted in a matter of minutes from your vote?
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>>4488809
Doesn't matter. We won.
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>>4488809
I just woke up bro. I cant control some other dudes vote.
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>>4488812
Thanks to the blatant samefaggotry.
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>>4488809
I just woke up bro. I cant control some other dudes vote
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>>4488809
Can i also point out that im phone posting. So sorry for any double posts
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>>4488790
Of course you would say that since your vote is losing.
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.
voting this just to spite that faggot.
Also, I'm this guy>>4485834 my ID just changed.
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>>4488835
They showed up right after a failed samefag attempt.
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>>4488835
I wonder who could be behind this 1 post ID.
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>>4488309
Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>>4488837
I would say it was a successful attempt.
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>>4488309
Continue kissu
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>>4488850
You don't need to make anymore IDs dude.
You already samefaged yourself almost twice the votes you need to win.
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>>4488841
Read the post below it faggot
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>>4488854
You sure?
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>>4488860
Yes. I am positive.
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.
Don’t be a pussy Shinji
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>inb4 “eisenjungfrau!”
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>everyone ITT
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>>4488942
I'll bonk you first
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>>4488309
Continue the makeout session.
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>>4488309
>>4488309
>>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>>4489064
Votings closed
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>>4488309
Continue kissing Monica
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So.
The samefag problem has clearly gotten outta hand.
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>>4489102
no fucking shit, so many one ID votes, its absurd
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>>4489102
>>4489090
>>4489065
All 1 post id.
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>>4489105
So says the 1 id poster
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>>4489109
1 post calls a 27 post a samefag.
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>>4489113
Says the 1 post id
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>>4489114
Actual schizo.
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>>4489106
>>4489102
Seething retards
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>>4489106
>>4489121
The irony of me saying this while being a one post fag has not escaped me but I have been here, even if I haven't been very active due to irl obligations.
>>4484209
>>4488331
The idea that others might be in the same boat I'm in also has crossed my mind, and that might explain why we have one or two of them.
But really. Be honest now. Do you really not even suspect these sudden influxes of 1 post anons all voting for the same thing is blatant samefaggotry?
I say that people should have to at least link back to their prior posts over the course of the thread in order to vote on the current choice. And none of that "make a random post and then vote so you can be a 2 post fag instead of a one post fag" shit. Trust me, I know people have lives outside of interactive fanfiction and many folks would rather not engage outside of reading updates and voting, I understand that, but something needs to be done here.
Even if it doesn't stop the samefaggotry completely we can at least make it harder for them.
I'm not even asking we doing anything super autistic like in Sworn to Valor or something like that, but something needs to be done.
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>>4489202
Sounds like you're just mad that we're having an intimate moment with a girl.
I bet you wouldn't complained if we're playing as shirou.
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i literally don't get what the problem with Shirou is, do you guys hate him or something?
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>>4489216
Yes. Shiroufags need to die. But I have no clue why everyone is talking about Shirou.
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>>4489216
Shirou lives rent free in the coomerbrain.
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>>4489210
I wouldn't be playing this quest if we were playing as Shirou.
And I'd complain about samefags even if they were voting for something that wasn't horribly out of place.

>>4489218
For some reason, whenever anons want to show some restraint and not coom for every girl in the quest, Shirou is somehow invoulved.
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>>4489218
why? Shirou is based

>>4489224
how? He literally only has one girl interested in him and we purposely pushed those 2 together
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>>4489226
Shiroufags want us to be cucked by Shirou they kept pushing him and Ilya.
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>>4489226
Because coomers keep insisting that we're gonna get cucked by Shirou. When we don't even share any romantic interest in Shirou's girl (girls if you want to count the defenseless anus).
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>>4489231
I don't really care about Illya beyond just saving her so that's good with me. We have like, 5 other girls so its not a big loss
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>I don't really care about Illya
Man, where did all the Illyafags go off to?
I mean she isn't my number one choice, but she has some real die hards a few months ago.
Have we forgotten what she bring to the table?
Really though, you have the right of it. Saving her IS way more important than waifuing her, but I'd say that's the case for everyone in the quest.
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>>4489231
I am happy with Illya being saved from her family, not interested in her in a romantic way at all.
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>>4489252
I just like Medea and Sakura better anon
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>>4489242
I guess your right. I think it is not really about the girls I am mostly just mad because they keep trying to unrelated things about Shirou.
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>>4489252
Saving her is kind of the reason I don't like her, she's more of a chore that I want to get over with than a compelling character.
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>>4489259
isn't that like, half our love interests? Sakura, Sacchin, Medea kinda
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>>4489256
>Medea
Fine
>Sakura
Got play the original VN if you wanna waifu Sakura. Give the new romantic options a chance.

>>4489259
>she's more of a chore that I want to get over with than a compelling character.
If you see it like that I'm surprised you don't see every girl in the quest a chore since we're ultimatly trying to "save" all the girls in our care. Hell even Monica, a woman most have regarded as capable of taking care of herself was JUST saved from a fate worse than death.
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>>4489269
Bros I just want Manaka to exist.
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>>4489202
>I'm not even asking we doing anything super autistic like in Sworn to Valor or something like that, but something needs to be done.
I kind of wish we were more like Sworn to Valor and Black Company since mechanical parts of them are pure joy to see and participate. And we already have just as much vote rigging.
Not to diss WhatIs but Forgotten really makes choices feel special because of it.
>>4489252
I feel like Medea being competent overshadows rest of potential love interests.
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>>4489269
>Got play the original VN if you wanna waifu Sakura. Give the new romantic options a chance.
If I can get more than one love interest i'm getting Sakura too

>>4489272
Medea is weirdly competent, she almost one the HGW by hacking the Grail
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>>4489271
>Manaka
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I find the idea of actually waifuing Manaka exceedingly exhausting.

>>4489272
>I kind of wish we were more like Sworn to Valor and Black Company since mechanical parts of them are pure joy to see and participate.
You aren't wrong about those quests mechanics being exciting and fun as fuck, but never get it twisted. This is a Fate Quest, you came to the wrong place if you were looking for in depth combat or mechanics.
It's kinda the reason stomping out samefaggotry is so important. Making choices is literally all this quest has. The storytelling and the voting on making the right choices are all there is to enjoy, and if that aspect of the quest is compromised then what is the point?
>I feel like Medea being competent overshadows rest of potential love interests.
I can see what you mean, but it doesn't make her best girl with just that alone imo.

>>4489276
>If I can get more than one love interest i'm getting Sakura too.
Again, this is a Fate Quest.
The story this quest is based on is all but centered around picking a wife and sticking with them to their logical conclusion.
The idea of having a harem defeats the purpose of that.
That said, a man has two hands for a reason. So maybe just UBW style, main girl/shared side chick situation going on wouldn't be too bad. Poor Sakura would probably be down for it if it meant getting a taste of the Shinjibowl.
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>>4489300
>I've said it before and I'll say it again. I find the idea of actually waifuing Manaka exceedingly exhausting.
It is not about waifuing Manaka but proving that I am not crazy and she exists.
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>>4489300
not like Sakura wasn't okay with it with her, Shirou and Rider
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>>4489300
>but it doesn't make her best girl with just that alone imo
who are you pining for anon
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>>4489263
>>4489269
Well you see, the main difference is that saving Sakura was pretty fun by itself. Having to lead a double life of sorts, having to think trhough every step, it was thrilling and entertaining to watch.
Medea is too useful to not interact with and the most important thing she adds to the team is having someone more competent than Shinji at magic, which is an interesting dynamic.
Sacchin I don't really care for.
So yeah, I guess it's not so much about the characters being compelling, they just have to be worth our time in some way or another.
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>>4489307
As long as it's not Sakura, Rin, or Saber, I'm fine with it. I'd also prefer Shinji not go with Monica or Betty since I've personally already familyzoned them in my head, but I won't be mad if it happens in a way that's not retarded. *cough fucking cough*
That said, I'm of the strong belief that route locking before we get to Tsukihime shit is a huge mistake.
Shinji has been literally dating Sacchin for actual years. It was stated that she was proabably one of the people Shinji, "has the best relationship with" and "interacting with the girl helps bring at least some calm" to his life, but she hasn't been allowed to be a character yet thanks to the circumstances and you fuckers need to cool it until she has a chance to prove herself.
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>>4489320
>Categorizing girls based on usefulness.
Can't say I fucks with that mindset, but I can't hate on it either.
Guess you must be very excited for Oni Wife since she's so damn busted, huh?
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>>4489329
>Can't say I fucks with that mindset, but I can't hate on it either.
Gimme a break dude, I have to work with what I have. You can't tell me all of this characters are actually deep and well written when most of the time they all just kinda suck up to Shinji's bullshit with little care for themselves. Even Rin, the one I like the most for having something resembling a spine just kinda bitches and does very little on her own? Correct me if I'm wrong please because I'm starting to buy into Shinji's reality bending mentality.
About Oni Wife, yes, all of my yes. Not so much for her stats but because the peak female body is like a siren's call to me
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>>4489340
>You can't tell me all of this characters are actually deep and well written when most of the time they all just kinda suck up to Shinji's bullshit with little care for themselves.
I can and I will.
>spoiler
At least that's something we can wholeheartedly agree on.
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>>4489322
well she keeps calling us her boyfriend and we let her so she seems to think we're in a relationship.
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>>4489347
My wife was like that. Probably just as tall.
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>>4489353
The joke about Sacchin obsessing over her "Rich, Fit, Super Loving out of town BF" has already been made, but the fact that WhatIsQm has not found a way to take advantage of such memery yet is slightly disapointing.
Really, I wouldn't even consider myself a Sacchinfag, but someone needs to look out for the poor girl and the consistancy of Shinji's character.
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>>4489385
Have we guaranteed she won't change?
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>>4489340
>they all just kinda suck up to Shinji's bullshit with little care for themselves
tbf half of them half to because they worked directly under us and the other half are abused children that we helped in some major way. Rin can bitch all she wants but she's not stupid or heartless, she owes us an arm and a leg for saving Sakura and she knows we're incredibly powerful and intelligent
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>>4489385
We had all the time in the world to spend with her but we just rolled a d100 and skipped it. I'm not excusing the QM but we kind of did this to ourselves.
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>>4489395
no the fucking problem was that most of you fuckers didn't want any downtime and just wanted to speed directly to the HGW, that's why we left Misaki town early and not even make contact with Shiki or talk to Aoko any longer, that's why we abandoned going with Kiritsugu to try to save Illya, that's why we just skipped Case Files. Like its no wonder we didn't spend any time actually hanging out with Satsuki or anyone else since, you guys kept fucking voting to skip the actual important bits

>>4489385
>My boyfriend is from Canada, you wouldn't know him
I just want Satsuki to be made fun of when we go back to see her again and btfo of everyone who didn't believe we actually existed
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>>4489393
No. In fact, Shinji is still undecided on if he wants her to change or not.

>>4489395
>We had all the time in the world to spend with her but we just rolled a d100 and skipped it.
That's not true at all. We've been horribly busy since the quest started cause preparing for the war and saving Sakura ate up most if not all of our screen time.
When given the choice between progressing the story or spending half a week's worth of updates on fucking about with SoL bullshit, players will choose progression every time. I don't wanna say it's the QMs fault, Sacchin is from a totally different story. She's not relevant to the main plot at the moment and as such has been sidelined. When the alternative is spending real time days going on dates with a character that isn't relevant to the current arc, it's understandable.
The only thing I wish is that she got paid a bit more lip service from time to time and that Anons would cool it on all the waifuing shit until we get further along. We still haven't even met all the girls in THIS arc let alone the next one.
Too many potential options to settle down now, I say.
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Can somebody please tally the votes for me?
If you could be so kind, could you also point out the one posts/two posts that don't link back to prior votes?
I know it's kind of a big ask, but I don't have much free time even now.
Sunday has turned out to be as busy as it usually is for me.
Hopefully I'll be free to start writing/tallying (If I have to) in the next 40 minutes or so.

We'll decide where to go from there when we've got a good look at the state of the vote.
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>>4489440

Break off and explain
>>4488310
>>4488359
>>4488363
>>4488438 1 post
>>4488542
>>4488691 2 post
>>4488708 2 post
>>4488722
>>4488726
>>4488764 2 posts but the other was a vote
>>4489064 2 posts but the other was a vote

Continue
>>4488315
>>4488334 1 post
>>4488335
>>4488347
>>4488358 1 post
>>4488394 2 posts
>>4488622
>>4488783 1 post but linked to previous post
>>4488785 1 post
>>4488786
>>4488788 1 post
>>4488836
>>4488850 2 post
>>4488916
>>4488973 2 post
>>4489090 1 post

I tried. Feel free to point out any fuckups.
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>>4489471
So if >>4489064 and >>4488764 are counted it is a break off win If >>4488783 is also counted it is a tie If none of them count it is a continue win?
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>>4489471
Ah, this one was a 3 post ID >>4489090
Only one post was a vote though.
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After all that, it's an 8-8 tie?
Can anybody else prove they aren't samefagging?

This is truly maddening.
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>>4489496
I'll switch from >>4488328 to
>>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>>4488347
>>4489496
i literally don't give a shit anymore, i'm switching so we can move on
>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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You fags
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You people are actually autistic, I check in and its another samefag fiesta caused by coomers.
Will this literally happen every time theres a waifu coomer choice?
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>>4489566
no shit
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>>4489571
I follow like 5 quests and this quest has by far the most autistic players.
You people need help and more importantly to jack off BEFORE you vote for anything.
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>>4489579
Not my fault that everyone spergs out when they think they're about to get their dick wet or when they autistically throw other people under the bus so they can manipulate their waifus
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>>4489579
fate stay night is literally a porn game what do you expect
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You quickly break off the kiss before Monica can adjust to the situation and practically launch yourself backwards across the room and away from the woman. It's only thanks to all of your martial training that you don't end up tripping up on one of the cans in the rooms and falling in your general state of disarray. You feel awkward enough about this situation already, and you feel like embarrassing yourself by tripping up on a can or something would only serve to make things look even worse.

The first thing Monica does upon waking up is clutching her forehead in pain, seemingly choosing to... disregard the unorthodox manner in which she just woke up, did... did she not realize what was happening? If that's the case, then you might just be able to get away with things without even needing to explain yourself! Yes, that would be for the best, you don't really want to explain to Monica that you felt like waking her up immediately was crucial enough to have warranted forcibly shoving your tongue into her mouth in order to exchange magical energy. Of course, standard magi would probably think nothing of the massive disregard for consent when it comes to achieving a goal, but Monica has proven herself time and time again to not be anything at all like a typical magus. You can really only hope that she won't end up taking offense. "My head is killing me." That's all she says at first, as she gets up off her bed, ignoring you to walk up to one of the windows before looking at the shining moon for a moment. "But I suppose considering I can still feel anything at all, I should consider it a blessing, huh?"

"Monica... I want you to understand why I just di-" You begin to try to explain that what you did was entirely for the purpose of giving her enough magical energy to get her up and moving again. Of course, it seemed to have worked perhaps a little bit too well. Almost immediately, actually. You were expecting it to take a few minutes at least, giving you more than enough time to not be caught in such a compromising position, but it seems that the universe had different plans in store for you. Had she taken just twenty seconds longer to awaken, then you would've been safely observing her sleep instead of being caught forcing your tongue down her throat. Well, at least none of your allies were here to see you kissing the woman without her consent, so that's a plus, you suppose.
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"I don't need to hear it, Shinji-kun. I'm not an idiot. I know what you were thinking and I don't blame you for doing it. After all..." Monica turns away from you. "...it was a necessary decision, right?" She tries to give you a reassuring smile. Which you return with a somewhat troubled smile of your own. Something tells you that Monica might be trying to hide her true thoughts on just how she woke up considering that there are bigger things to deal with right now. Hopefully she's not too mad. "I'm really just glad that I'm alive right now. I honestly wasn't expecting to survive that fight, in fact, I'm still not entirely sure I'm not hallucinating as I lie bleeding out on the floor in some back alley somewhere." She frowns as she says that. "I'd just about accepted that I wasn't making it out of that fight alive."

"If you don't want me to explain myself, do you mind if I ask who it is you fought? You make it sound like you ended up fighting against an enemy Servant." You're kind of glad that Monica doesn't want an explanation, even if you feel like you could probably smooth things over better if she actually gave you the opportunity to justify your actions. But you suppose getting caught up on something like a kiss isn't really all that important right now, especially when Monica clearly has vital information to give you.

"Ha! A Servant, I probably would've been able to at least manage to distract long enough to make my escape from a Servant. No, I was up against somebody far more dangerous and skilled at killing humans than Servants are." Monica's voice is as grim as her face as she recalls what must've been a complete loss. "I was up against a Dead Apostle." You remain silent and wait for Monica to continue. You already have an inkling of just where she's going with this. After all, after what happened when she battled that vampire all those years ago, there's no way a simple Dead Apostle would ever have gotten the better of her. "A Dead Apostle Ancestor." There it is. The words you were dreading. Could Altrouge have decided to come for you early? This is bad, you definitely don't have the resources to deal with Altrouge... or more specifically, that damn dog she keeps as her pet. While your Servants could probably find a way to bring the Dead Apostle Girl down for good, Primate Murder would cleave through your forces like a hot knife cleaves through butter. The Beast would be unstoppable, even to somebody with as many Servants on his side as you.

"Then... Altrouge...?" You slowly speak the name of the girl, with a not insignificant amount of trepidation. It's hardly like merely uttering her name is going to make her appear, but you're still wary of simply saying the name in case it allows her to manifest before you like some evil spirit. Of course, you know such things are superstitious, even for this world of magic, but you can never be too sure when you're dealing with people as powerful as Altrouge is.
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You people pozzed this quest
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"Altrouge? No. The Dead Apostle I fought with tonight was the Sixth of the Dead Apostle Ancestors." Monica's voice is still grim as she finally reveals the identity of the man responsible for almost slaying her. So, it was Altrouge's work after all then? She's just not felt it necessary to actually show up herself. Though the meaning of her message is now made abundantly clear to you.

"Rizo-Waal Strout?" You've heard of him, and you're of course aware of his allegiance with Altrouge, but to think that the Sixth Dead Apostle Ancestor would show up in Fuyuki for the Grail War. This war is becoming an even greater disaster than it already is! "Do you... Do you know what he wants? Do you think he's a master?" That's the killer question. If this vampire is going to get himself directly involved in the Grail War, then you're going to have to find a way to destroy him, one way or the other. He's obviously not got any intention of being your ally based upon how he nearly slaughtered one of your closest friends in this world

"I'm unsure on if he's a Master or if he's just taken to interfering with the grail war for some reason. All I know is that he confronted me without warning. Either he spotted me scouting yesterday and sought me out, or he somehow spotted me from a distance and decided he didn't want me around. I didn't even get to see any Servants that he might've been connected to." She sighs. "But don't you think it would be kind of silly for somebody as strong as him to even have a Servant in the first place? Who needs a Servant that is weaker than you yourself are?" Monica raises an excellent point. Somebody like the Sixth Dead Apostle Ancestor should have no actual need for a Servant.

"This is dark news indeed." You heave a sigh a cover your face with your right hand. "Just when I think that this grail war couldn't become even more of a mess, a Dead Apostle Ancestor shows up!" You begin to laugh. "No! Really! This is great!" Your laughter becomes more and more uncontrollable. "Can't I just get a break, huh? No matter how much I plan for, this damn wo-" You are stopped. Interrupted mid-rant by a stinging sensation on your cheek. Did... Monica just... slap you? It doesn't hurt, but the sudden audacity of the swift strike has left you completely speechless.

The woman fixes you with a stern expression. "I want you to understand that that slap was simply to snap you out of your ranting before you could properly begin. It has nothing to do with how I feel about what you did to wake me up." The stern expression never falters, and even you can't tell if the woman is telling you the truth or not, much to your extreme displeasure. "Let's go back and talk with the others, alright?" She changes the subject, and it's an escape you're happy to take.
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"Right. Let's go." You quickly leave Monica's room with the woman following behind you. She's a little lethargic and slow right now, but she's quickly recovering even as she follows you back down to the dining room.

Opening the doors, you see that everyone has made an appearance now, Monica doesn't seem to care too much about the new arrivals to the room as she quickly glances at everyone present. You wish you could read people's minds sometimes, you feel like your life would be so much simpler if you could. Even now, you feel guilty about the idea of having upset Monica with your kiss. The logical part of you knows that it was the right thing to do and it allowed you to gain the information that Monica had managed to find, but the other more compassionate half of you realizes that in a way, what you did was a betrayal of the trust you have with Monica in order to gain a fleeting advantage. You would've ended up finding out the identity of her attacker the moment she woke up anyway, and it couldn't have been more than an hour or two.

After all that rigmarole with Monica, you just feel worse. At least she's awake for the planning stage now. You quickly take your seat once more. It's about time you actually plotted out the specifics of this attack, you think. You're going to have Caster teleport everyone fighting into the temple, but you've not really got anything more specific than that.

>You don't need any sort of in-depth plan. It's not like you need a plan other than to hit them hard and fast.
>Ask one of your allies to share their thoughts on your current plan of having Caster teleport everyone into the temple to surprise your enemy. (Who?)
>Propose a variation to the plan. (What?)
>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
>Write-in...
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>>4489677
You don't need any plan. Also I go guess meeting shuten is fucked now?
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>>4489679
We have voted to meet Shuten before assault I believe.
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>>4489677
>>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
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>>4489677
>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
Gotta keep our options open since things have taken a turn with a DAA in the mix now
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>>4489677
>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
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>>4489679
Oh no you're still going to go and do that. But Shinji has decided it would probably be unwise if he let everyone at the table know that was what he was planning on doing.
It is terribly reckless, after all.
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>>4489694
K
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So I guess since my ID keep changing my post not going to be counted anyway.
So I guess I can't contribute.
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>>4489677
>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
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>>4489739
Blame the coomer samefags and stop mobile posting you shitter.
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>>4489794
Not my fault that 4chan IP banned my region.
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>>4489739
Bro just link back to your old posts.
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>>4489853
That other anon who did that before still doesn't count as a vote in the previous choice.
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>>4489677
>>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
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>>4489853
QM literally didn't count the anons who did that. Just accept the fact that samefags have ruined it for phone posters and either lurk or use your home pc.
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>>4489739
I don't enjoy resorting to such methods anon.
But I can't sit idly by and watch foul play without doing a thing.
If you want your vote to be counted you can do any of the following.
1) link back to a previous vote you made
2) explain the logic begind your vote.
3) use a simple tripcode for votes

>>4489866
>QM literally didn't
He did actually.
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>>4489677
>>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
Group effort and all that.
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>>4489677
>>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.

Let's make sure everyone is aware of what threats we already know to be present.
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I was kind of expecting more votes for such an important vote.
Par for the course really, I suppose.
I guess I'll leave the vote open for a few more hours again.
Don't worry though, I'll be able to get back to my twice a day update schedule soon.
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>>4490008
Well like I said, my post tends to have different ID's and I believe I'm not the only one with that situation.
And you have to understand that while we do want to contribute, we don't really want to do any more extra work (in my case being lazy as fuck) I tend to just copy paste the vote.
Then seeing after the clusterfuck before and my post doesn't really count as one, I'll just settle with reading.

Well that was me, I don't know the others. Currently using my office's ISP so the ID will hold, but after I got home it'll back to square one.
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>>4490014
I'll have to think of a way around samefaggotry.
I don't think it's an issue on votes like this though, not as much.
I don't want to hurt my actual legitimate players because some guy wanted to win a vote badly enough to try to game the system.

What do you guys think?
I'd prefer no system at all, but last vote just got ridiculous.
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>>4490016
I personally think it doesn't matter if the vote were samefagged or not. If we choose wrong we'll get consequences anyway, but then again, that will be on you so I can't speak on that.
I don't mind which, I just don't want that whenever the same situation arose and I do post a vote, it'll be regarded as a samefag because an anon doesn't like my vote.
Losing on a vote is fine, just a little upset if it doesn't count is all.
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>>4489677
>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
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>>4490016
I think samefagging is an issue only when it is as blatant as it was in the previous vote.
When people take advantage of their ID changing from time to time it's fine.
But when voting turns into complete shit show like the last one did You should just disregard all IDs with less than 3 proper posts.
Ultimately You are the quest master so whatever people say your decision is final.
If You believe the voting was samefagged You are free to ignore suspicious votes.
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>>4490016
Personally I’d prefer QM to just write the next post according to their own judgment and preferences regardless of the ultimate tally if the vote seems corrupted.
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And rip my office ISP.
Oh well, I'll vote like usual when I got home.
Or not, since my post will look like someone samefagging.
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>>4490016
The system from the last vote seemed fine. If it wasn't annoying then it wouldn't do much to discourage samefagging.
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>>4489675
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"This is dark news indeed." You heave a sigh a cover your face with your right hand. "Just when I think that this grail war couldn't become even more of a mess, a Dead Apostle Ancestor shows up!" You begin to laugh. "No! Really! This is great!" Your laughter becomes more and more uncontrollable. "Can't I just get a break, huh? No matter how much I plan for, this damn wo-" You are stopped. Interrupted mid-rant by a stinging sensation on your cheek. Did... Monica just... slap you? It doesn't hurt, but the sudden audacity of the swift strike has left you completely speechless.
More Shinji moments like that please!
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>>4489677
>>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
The more ideas the better
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>>4490039
>Samefagging is fine some of the time
>It’s ok to take advantage of ID’s changing at times

No, no it’s not fine at all, at any point. This dude definitely samefags.
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>>4490064
Says you, Mister 1 Post.
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>>4490064
There is no way to tell if someone is samefagging unless it is done in obscenely obvious way. I do not want this quest turn into another "Sworn to Valour" so I recommended QM to not sweat it too much unless last vote situation repeats itself.
If You click on my ID and scroll this thread up You will see that I was one of the people who were calling samefags out.
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Having a Dynamic IP sucks
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>>4490106
Tell me about it
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>>4490106
I might only institute the one post scrutiny clause when the votes are especially close and hotly debated or if something like 5 voters with only 1 post to their names suddenly appearing to change the tide within minutes of each other.
I'm going to try my best not to alienate the people without set IP addresses.

After all, I myself suffer from an ISP that craps out at least once a week and shifts my IP to something else.
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Whatis can you tell us how much we missed by winning the virgin option?
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>>4490196
Relax, Anon. We are about to unlock secret route where we abandon worldly things to train bajiquan for a hundred years in isolated mountains.
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If that one dude earlier ITT nailed guessing a DAA meddling with the war, what are the chances the Manaka fags will her into being a boss down the road if not the main antagonist?
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>>4490211
Outer gods were also guessed before being properly introduced to the quest.
And anons mostly started spamming about Manaka after a dream Shinji had with something similar to her in it.
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>>4490211
Manaka schizos will never be satisfied until she literally walks out of the grail and starts slapping everyone around for a dead end.
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>>4490223
>and starts slapping everyone around for a dead end
I want her to fight Altrouge and her dog.
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>>4489677
>>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
I wanted to do a dumb Paint pic about the matchups but then I went to sleep.
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>>4490227
Altrogue's dog could probably solo Manaka and the six Alter servants without much difficulty. Manaka can't do true magic since she only "has connections to it", meaning that she would be destroyed against an actual True Magus. Plus Manaka probably dosen't have Beast 6 as the grail hasn't been filled up yet as far as we know, unlike in prototype which means that Manaka is severely nerfed.
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>>4489677
>>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
Let's hear what everyone has to say.
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I'll samefag a thousand IPs if it means keeping Shinji pure.
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The only waifu good enough for our boy is genderswapped Shirou.
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>>4490313
Its us and Shirou against the world
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>>4490313
RENT FREEE
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>>4490317
>Fem-Shirou
Ayaka route?
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>>4490326
I still can't get over how Arthur chose a generic Japanese high schooler over the half succubus wizard that made him king
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>>4490313
>genderswapped Shirou
Genderswapped Gil.
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>>4490332
Ayaka without her glasses was apparently attractive enough to make Proto Gil propose to her on the spot, and proclaim her as hotter than any female from Uruk.
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>>4490339
>any female from Uruk
>female
Classic Gil!
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>>4490349
Gender: [DATA EXPUNGED]
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>>4489677
>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
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"Everyone else, before we get started with this plan, I'd like to hear what you think we should do. I have my own plan of course, but I would appreciate if I had the input of the Servants here, after all, they've got far more experience in matters like this than anybody here at the table. So, does anybody have anything they want to say?"

Saber looks at you with a conflicted expression before she begins talking in a firm tone. "I don't really have anything to add to your plan other than to make a request. This... twisted version of myself. I want to request that nobody else attack her. This enemy is one that I have to face myself. I cannot simply allow such an abomination to exist." Saber seems to want to destroy Alter by herself. Not that you can blame her, you think that just about anybody would be disgusted if they were confronted with a twisted and evil version of themselves, and to destroy such an existence would be second nature to just about anybody.

"Granted." You turn to face the rest of the table after Saber makes her request. "Unless you need to defend yourself from her, nobody is to do battle with the Altered Saber at the temple, is that acceptable?" You do try to tread relatively lightly with the Servants. Despite everything, only Medea is actually your Servant here, and it's not like the rest of them completely lack any sort of ego. Well, Medusa just might, she's not really got any reason to fight other than for her Master.

There are murmured agreements from the present Servants. None of them are fool enough to deny Saber the right to deal with her own evil clone. It's really just the sort of thing that you need to leave to the person who it regards. "Right, now does anybody have any actual plan of attack based on the information we've got right now?" You opt to avoid revealing the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor to the rest of your allies right now. You don't want anybody to get cold feet, and the fact of things is that it's almost a certainty that they won't be showing up to the assault on the temple. Either as an ally to the evil or as an enemy of it. Not unless the evil hiding inside the grail is secretly Altrouge. But that wouldn't make any sense anyway. It's hardly like the Holy Grail, an earthly artifact, could allow Altrouge to make any real progress in her goal of becoming the next incarnation of Type-Moon. Not unless her goal changed to reaching the Root somehow. No, the Dead Apostle Ancestor in this town is almost certainly here for the purpose of observing you. Well, that's the most likely reason at least. Though you still don't actually know why Altrouge came to Fuyuki in the first place.
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Archer seems to be thinking of a strategy, but before he can say anything more, Lancer speaks first. "That temple has a strong anti-spiritual bounded field around it, my rune magic isn't enough to alter it, but there's a Servant here with the capability to completely bypass it, Isn't that right, Caster?" Lancer looks at Caster with expectation in his eyes. "That is if you're actually a competent Caster. I have no doubt in my mind that my own teacher would've had very little issue with something like that." There's a slight tone of suppressed fear in Lancer's voice as he brings up Scathatch. To Cu, his teacher was an enemy he was never capable of truly surpassing, despite all of his strength. "I'm suggesting that we disable their defenses and then when that's done, we can rush them from all sides!" Cu enthusiastically reveals his own plan.

Medea seems to strongly consider the plan to alter the bounded field around the temple. "From what I can determine of the barrier on that temple, it wouldn't be... impossible for me to erase it from this land given a minute or two. In fact, if I were given enough time, I could even turn it's power towards those it protects right now. Sapping the strength of the spiritual beings within it's confines. All things considered, it's not a bad plan at all. Weakening your opponents with the barrier they are exploiting has a certain poetic justice to it. Especially considering that the original purpose of the powerful bounded field was to ward off evil-spirits, or something along those lines.

"How long is 'enough time', Caster?" Lancer isn't all too satisfied with Medea's answer, and presses the ancient magus for more information on just how viable his own suggested plan of attack is.

Medea frowns at the spearman. "Without taking an in-depth look at the make-up of the bounded field, I cannot say. Though I cannot imagine it taking me more than about five minutes to have completely usurped the clumsy magecraft being used to protect that fortress." Medea responds to Lancer with a hint of annoyance in her tone. Clearly she's not all too keen on people like Lancer.
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>>4490728
We can buy 5 minutes, especially with Betty
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Archer evidently finally finishes thinking of his own plan and begins to speak next "Why not just lure them out of their fortress? We'd have far more success with a sneak attack if we had one of us appear near the temple gates apparently wounded and defenseless. Then, we could easily have Caster here enable a sneak attack on whoever ends up being sent out to deal with the wounded foe. While they are obviously assigned to protect the entrance to the temple, I doubt that those Servants at the gate are of the mindset to simply ignore the opportunity to deal with an enemy, despite what they might have been ordered to do." Archer's own plan relies on putting somebody in an unwarranted amount of danger in order to lure one of the enemy Servants from their post. While it does have potentially huge payoff if you manage to kill or perhaps capture one of the opposing Servants in order to tip the scales before the battle begins truly, it's also incredibly risky, and might end up not working at all.

>Go with Archer's plan of trying to lure out an enemy first before commencing the actual attack. If you get lucky enough, you might even be able to get Saber Alter out of the picture!
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
>Remain set on your original plan to have Caster teleport you into the temple. Nothing could possibly go wrong with such a simple and effective plan, right?
>Write-in...
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>>4490731
Lancer's plan makes more sense imo, we have more than enough servants to buy Medea some time. If Caster just teleports us in, we have the element of surprise but all sorts of things could go wrong if we don't at least get rid of that barrier. Archer's plan is just asking for SAlter to spam Excalibur at the servant we use as bait and losing them unnecessarily.
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>>4490728
Some reason your latest post won't load for me but I vote Lancer /Caster plan
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>>4490741
Also I'm this guy
>>4490729
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>>4490731
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
Honestly? I was gonna say 5 minutes seems like too much time buuuuuuut we actually have a lot of servants that could do this easily. Archer if able to actually fight as an Archer is a fucking champ, he managed to hold off literally ever single servant, including Lancer who has Protection From Arrows, because he outranged that ability. Lancer stalled Gilgamesh for 12 hours and has an ability made for completely stalling fights. Saber and Rider can just guard Caster as she does her thing
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>>4490731
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
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How odd still no update for me
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>>4490731
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
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>>4490731
Archer's plan is unlikely to work; we've seen them refuse to leave the vicinity of the temple. I guess they'd probably do it if the bait started to attack but I am doubtful they'd change their behavior for something very obvious.
Lancer's plan could work, but it removes the element of surprise for a chance at weakening them.
Personally I think it best if we have Medea check the barrier first before deciding whether or not we can go for it.
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I think we voted for this previously, but also remind our group to look out for Gil. I have a feeling that he won't want to miss out on seeing two Artorias fighting each other.
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>>4490758
Gil is a complete wildcard that will murder us for inconveniencing him
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>>4490731
>>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
QM, please let us tell our allies what we know about fourth war servants and Gil. Now is the perfect time.
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>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
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>>4490765
But if there's a Gil Alter in the temple, he would gladly annihilate the impostor with extreme prejudice.
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>>4490850
Based on what happened in Prototype only the dead servants from the previous grail war were brought back as Alters. Proto Saber Alter happened because Saincraid managed to corrupt Proto Saber with grail mud or some other factor when stealing him from Ayaka. Unless there were shenanigans I doubt there will be a Gil Alter since Gil didn't actually "die" in the last grail war.
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>>4490731
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
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>>4490731
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
In retrospect, the teleport plan sounds a bit too much like A Bridge Too Far. Jumping in without adequate reconnaissance? Whee!
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>>4490731
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
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>you faggots are so assblasted by us coomer samefagging that you've downvoted this thread on suptg to the negatives
the absolute state of shiroufags gentlemen
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>>4490876
>Everyone i don't like is a shiroufag.
The absolute state of coomers gentlemen.
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>>4490885
are you really implying theres any players here who aren't coomers or shiroufags?
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>>4490897
>Anyone who voted against tongue kissing an unconscious woman is a shiroufag! It has to be!
I am implying that you are retarded.
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>>4490901
to be fair, a shiroufag appeared two threads ago(i think) and proudly said he will samefag and use it to get shinji NTRed, so now there's this meme of every samefagging anon being that shrioufag with 10 million ips and such
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>>4490922
Those who samefagged last time were clearly coomers tho.
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>>4490922
Sounds like they were shitposting.
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>>4490897
And here I just vote on whims. Factions are fake and gay but please keep up the arguments, its entertaining.
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>>4481501
Why is the longer I participate in this quest the more true this is.
This image literally perfectly captured the playerbase and literally everything mentioned within has already happened ITT.
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>>4490970
How is QM a lolicon tho. I've seen people say this a few times and I don't understand what is the reason.
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>>4490972
I think its more Fate's fault than QMs because Fate has so many loli characters but than again QM did choose to use shuten + ibaraki lolis when he had a ton of other choices for assassin.
Not too sure about the details since I don't read Castlevania Elergy but according to /qtg/, the main love interest in the QMs other quest is also a loli.
Our OC servant is also a loli but at least QM is making us father-mode her instead of letting anons lust after actual mentally child character.

Personally I think its just a meme and QM isn't really a lolicon, instead he knows theres a fair amount of his playerbase that ARE lolicons so he inserted lolis for free (you)s.
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>>4490876
A what?
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>>4490922
that sounds like the most obvious falseflag in the entire world, samefags don't proudly declare their intentions like a supervillain. they just quietly samefag.
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>>4490973
i will now read castlevania
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I don't have the time to write an update right now so instead I'll just add an additional vote about here...

Select all that apply on how truthful you want to be with your allies.
Seeing as the other update has yet to be written, you can still actually vote on the plan you want. I'm not calling the vote just yet.
Just adding an extra vote.

>Have everyone reveal their strengths and weaknesses as Servants or you will. Everyone needs to know how best to fight along side each other.
>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>Reveal your plan to attempt to forge an alliance with Assassin to your allies, you'll need to get them to agree to fight alongside Shuten at some point if you manage to secure an alliance, and just showing up with an Oni in tow may go poorly.
>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
>Write-in...
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>>4491067
>>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
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>>4491067
All of the above
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>>4490731
>Acknowledge Lancer's plan as a good alternative
>Submit our plan to teleport attack for review by Caster - as in would she have enough power to bring us there and back again and still have enough to fight in between.
>Probably switch to Lancer's plan, based on arguments provided


>>4491067
>>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
This should go without saying
>>Reveal your plan to attempt to forge an alliance with Assassin to your allies, you'll need to get them to agree to fight alongside Shuten at some point if you manage to secure an alliance, and just showing up with an Oni in tow may go poorly.
This is likely to garner some opposition from our more moral allies. Emphasize that as local spirit she has additional boost to power and if we can bribe her with booze to win her support, or at very least deny her to the old bastard, it's worth attempting over a risky confrontation
>>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
Caution against premature conclusions though. It's just another wildcard to contend with...

As for weakness, I'd rather not force our friends/allies this way, at least not until we've achieved a shared victory.
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>>4491093
I believe Caster already reviewed our plan here >>4481422 :
>'Interesting, I see you aren't going to leave anything to chance here, Master. Doesn't it feel a little bit like cheating to you though? For our enemies to go through so much effort in setting up their defenses, only to have a far more talented magic user just bypass them in their entirety.' Caster laughs very briefly through the mental link. Seems like she has no opposition to this plan. In fact, she seems to be relishing in being able to show off her magical superiority, it seems.
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>>4491067
>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>Reveal your plan to attempt to forge an alliance with Assassin to your allies, you'll need to get them to agree to fight alongside Shuten at some point if you manage to secure an alliance, and just showing up with an Oni in tow may go poorly.
>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
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>>4491100
Oh, you're right. So she thinks it's feasible at least. Still, I'd like to be sure she's got enough juice for it if we went through with it.

Another factor would be the meeting with demon. If it goes poorly, it will be another drain on her to get us out quickly.

I'm also somewhat worried that if she was incapacitated or drained or otherwise thwarted once we were in, we could get stranded behind enemy defences.
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>>4491067
>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
This ones obvious.

Why are we telling them about us recruiting shuten?
Shirou, saber and to lesser extent rin+archer are all moralfags and shuten already ate bunch of faceless npcs earlier.
Do you really think they'll be fine with shuten and her chaotic evil ways?
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>>4491067
>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>Reveal your plan to attempt to forge an alliance with Assassin to your allies, you'll need to get them to agree to fight alongside Shuten at some point if you manage to secure an alliance, and just showing up with an Oni in tow may go poorly.
>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
We can't really keep these secrets anymore, its life and death for everyone now
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Anyone know why I can't see some posts here? I don't have the ID filtered but like this
>>4491120
I can't see his post.
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>>4490990
It was more like trolling through samefagging threats tho, nonetheless it was quite hilarious
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>>4490922
>get shinji NTRed
I legitimately don't know how that's possible at this point, Shirou is our best bro and half the girls that like us like us a bit too much
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>>4491067
>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>Reveal your plan to attempt to forge an alliance with Assassin to your allies, you'll need to get them to agree to fight alongside Shuten at some point if you manage to secure an alliance, and just showing up with an Oni in tow may go poorly.
>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
If we do strengths and weaknesses reveal we will be forced to do reveal of our own powers and tell them that Betty as Foreigner. And it feels that timing for it is wrong.
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>>4491194
>I legitimately don't know how that's possible at this point,
Reminder that the only people that "like" us is only because of circumtances. They're either just feeling grateful of you because we keep giving them stuff nilly willy or because we're an alliance with the same purpose or because we help them in some kind of way.
I really really doubt that the girls "like" us in that kind of direction, WHICH goes back to our initial point that it's easy to make the girls into shirou harem.
A few example of the girls:
>Illya, since she's already starting to settle and her grudge already passed, she can start feeling womanly love towards shirou if we give a bit of a nudge.
>Her maid will come automatically.
>Sakura could be in shirou harem easily by us avoiding her. She'll love shirou naturally since shirou's the one she's actually need. By giving sakura means we also give rider.
>Some anon already considered Medea and Shirou as an OTP on their headcanon just do a >write in of those and you'll get over vote wins to give medea to shirou
>Let betty hang out with shirou and he will take care of her like we never have done before and betty will fell for him
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Another post I can't see! Ah what is happening!?
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>>4491216
You got me with Illya but then again, i don't really care about romancing Illya. Sakura is the same girl that died alone waiting for Shirou. Medea is our servant in the end, there's a better chance she turns Shirou into a Projection Wand. Betty is our daughter
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>>4490731
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
>Write in - Bring up your original plan, perhaps find a way to combine both plans into one. (I.e, Caster and some others wait outside while Caster reverse engineers the barrier meanwhile Lancer and the rest try to distract the other servants in the meantime).

>>4491067
>Reveal strengths and weaknesses
>Reveal fourth war servants
>Reveal plan to forge alliance with Assassin

I feel like revealing our plan to recruit Shuten isn’t a bad idea, if we can get her to be on our side then she could be a very powerful and arguably useful asset to the alliance. Why wouldn’t we let our allies know of such a thing? The only downside may be Rin doing something stupid.
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>>4491216
Fuck off fag
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>>4491222
Nice, it means the possibility is there and exist.
That's enough for me.
Time to do some work.
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>>4491067
>>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
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>Sakura and Shirou
You might want to re-read pre-war interaction between Sakura, Shirou and Shinji.
And remember that we have "our own" homunculus maid.
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>>4491250
Yeah i almost forgot about that, she would straight up ignore Shirou when we were around
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>>4491250
I just meant that since we don't want to romance her, then it's better to give her to shirou.
Also "our own" homunculus maid is still technically Illya's. My point still stands.

I think you guys missed my point. The reason why girls love shirou in VN was because he's a natural good guy, and through his behaviour bit by bit they all grew to like him.
We as shinji didn't do this, mostly because we're too focused on the objective in front of us that everything we do is the most necessary to get the best result for success, but not in the way to make the girls love us like shirou did.
It's not like we keep the girls at arm length, they were never even considered us as romance partner in the first place.
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>>4491264
are you a speedreader or are you just retarded?
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>>4491216
I have never seen anyone this delusional.
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>>4491272
I read it from the first ever thread until now.
You're not denying my post though.
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>>4491277
>mostly because we're too focused on the objective in front of us that everything we do is the most necessary to get the best result for success, but not in the way to make the girls love us like shirou did
What are our objectives specifically? Also, we spent an absurd amount of time and money trying to reach out to people, with Sakura and Satsuki specifically, we kept buying them gifts and taking them out on dates.
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>>4491264
But we do want to romance illya.
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>>4491264
>We as shinji didn't do this
Shinji saved Sakura from fate worse than death.
Shinji went very far to help Illya know the truth without any solid reason to do so.
Shinji made it clear to homunculi that he considering them humans.
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>>4491280
>we
Next time there's a chance we could have a date will Illya, this guy>>4491228, me and probably a good amount of "anons" would choose otherwise. I'll make sure of it myself.

>>4491279
That was just us trying to change their doomed fate into happier ones. Doesn't necessary means we're romancing them. Our objective at first was to kill Zouken, now's the grail war. But like I said, everything is platonic.
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>>4491286
Why are you such a cuck?
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>>4491283
>Shinji went very far to help Illya know the truth without any solid reason to do so.
So does Sakura and Satsuki.
While Illya does feel grateful to us, we can still make her fall for shirou. We're more like some kind of close friend to her.
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>>4491286
Some reason your posts don't show. Oh you're the sanefagger?
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>>4491290
He could be but since there are people who answer him so it seems at least some anons see his posts.
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Whatis can you ban this guy from the quest?
>>4491286
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>>4491286
>Our objective at first was to kill Zouken
Why specifically did we want to kill Zouken
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>>4491290
If you mean samefagger, you're one aswell 1 post poster.

>>4491288
Give an actual input please.
I only want a discussion.
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>>4491297
To save sakura? Still doesn't mean it's impossible to make her fall for shirou.
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>>4491298
I'm normally
>>4491239
But I'm driving so off my main internet
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>>4490731
>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>Reveal your plan to attempt to forge an alliance with Assassin to your allies, you'll need to get them to agree to fight alongside Shuten at some point if you manage to secure an alliance, and just showing up with an Oni in tow may go poorly.
>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
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>>4491303
>To save sakura? Still doesn't mean it's impossible to make her fall for shirou.
Are we talking about the same Sakura right now? Same girl that died of old age waiting for the guy that killed himself trying to save her? Same girl that would straight up ignore Shirou whenever we were around? Same girl that we would go out of our way to spoil and hangout with when she had literally no one else? Yeah, sure I guess, if we go out of our way to specifically force Shirou and Sakura together and maybe start like, abusing her, while also forcing Saber and Shirou away from each other, then they would get together, its technically possible anon
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>>4491314
technically you don't really need to force shirou and saber away from each other. We're trying to give shirou a harem, remember?
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>>4491314
>Saber and Shirou
I am probably the only one who is betting on Rin and Shirou naturally happening here.
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>>4491318
i wouldn't bet on it at all, Saber and Shirou usually end up together if things are equal, at most, Rin just becomes his fuckbuddy
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>>4491316
No we're not
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>>4491067
>>Have everyone reveal their strengths and weaknesses as Servants or you will. Everyone needs to know how best to fight along side each other.
>>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
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>>4491298
Input? Sure.

Sakura is a very devoted and single minded person. As soon as she chooses someone she will stick to that person no matter what. She called us "Her hero" and admitted to stalking us. Her feelings for us are very obvious. We could ignore her for the rest of her life, and she would still be in love with us. Not to mention that she doesn't like Shirou at all. In fact, she got super jealous when in previous thread we called and said that we are at Shirou's house. The way she sees Shirou is "Onii-chan's childhood friend" and also "Rival for onii-chan's attention". There is actually no way for Sakura to fall for Shirou.

Medea is clearly interested in us romantically. You would have to be blind to not see that. Shinji constructed by us in this quest is simply her type of guy.

Betty is way too young for romance. She seems to like us in a friendly way. She also seems completely indifferent towards everyone else.

In conclusion, I would like to state that you are either a delusional cuck or a falseflagging coomer assblasted after not getting your way in that samefagged vote.

>>4491316
>We're trying to give shirou a harem, remember?
I am pretty sure you are alone in this retarded pursuit.
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>>4489210
>>4491316
You should have done this falseflagging with a fresh ID.
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>>4491316
>We're trying to give shirou a harem, remember?
No we're not lmao, Shirou is my boy though so I wanna help him with Saber at least
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>>4491332
I agree with you but again your posts don't show up either.
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>>4491332
>The way she sees Shirou is "Onii-chan's childhood friend" and also "Rival for onii-chan's attention".
Man, i don't care if anons bitch at me, i'm definitely going for Sakura, its weirdly funny and entertaining to see those Yandere tendencies leak out
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>>4491332
>There is actually no way for Sakura to fall for Shirou.
There is a way. We just need more time.
>Medea is clearly interested in us romantically.
No, she's just attracted to our magical capacity. She's still the witch of betrayal, I doubt she already fell for us after all of this and actually still wary of us deep inside since we somehow knows everything about her. With us, it feels like we're doing this because we want to use her. It will be different with shirou since she will treat her naturally.
Yeah, I can't refute for Betty, BUT I still believe we could give her to shirou if we want it.

Also, it means that we're all agree we gonna give lil nudge to Illya towards shirou right?
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>>4491332
Nevermind. I just looked at this guy's post history. He is a coomer who raged at people who called out samefagging and called them shiroufags. Now he falseflags as shiroufag himself.
Just look at this shit
>>4488835
>>4488836
>>4489210
At least change your ID before you falseflag dumbass.
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>>4491353
I feel ashamed by the fact that you baited me into giving you a serious reply.
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>>4491356
Well I changed my ways.
And while I did think as a coomers before, I truthfully never done the samefagging. It's up to you to believe in that or not.

It's either being coomerfags or shiroufags in anon eyes anyway. It's not my fault that sometimes my vote aligned with coomers once or twice.

Oh and I'm not falseflagging about shirou. Again, I only follows what I want regardless of me being seen as which fags.
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can we ignore the retard, please?
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>>4491368
Yes
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>>4491332
>Betty is way too young for romance. She seems to like us in a friendly way. She also seems completely indifferent towards everyone else.
I think anons got way too relax about her and just consider her "normal loli servant".
She is very much a result of direct meddling of Outer Gods and with Nyarlathotep crawling around whole thing can still twist into being main plot with Altrouge and all other current concers taking a back seat.
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>>4491380
>She is very much a result of direct meddling of Outer Gods and with Nyarlathotep crawling around whole thing can still twist into being main plot with Altrouge and all other current concers taking a back seat.
If we're carrying such a servant with a danger level of a beast then what's stopping us from breezing all this hurdle in the temple?
Did we ever try asking betty herself?
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>>4491386
No for some reason no one has wanted to ask her or have Touko delve deeper after fixing her curse
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>>4491355
ESLfag is trying to falseflag?
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>>4491573
What did he mean by this
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Dead thread?
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>>4491977
Stop asking this.
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>>4491987
Sorry, just felt like 4chan was down or something. 3 threads I'm following haven't had replies for hours.
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>>4492329
Every time you say this, I push back posting the update by ten minutes.
This was a joke.
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Dead thread
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>>4492347
>>4492329
samefag
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You think about Archer's plan for a while, and while he might've seen something else, from what you saw of how your enemies acted when you began to beat a hasty retreat, they won't leave the gate for anything. Not only that, going along with Archer's plan would also leave whoever ends up being the bait for the trap vulnerable to being struck from afar with a long distance Noble Phantasm. You don't really want to rely on any of your allies being capable of dodging a relatively close range Excalibur Morgan at full power. In fact, you'd only sanction a plan like this if Medea were to instead cast some sort of illusion to deceive your opponents. You aren't quite certain of her expertise in such magecraft though. It's certainly not her specialty, but her all-encompassing skill with the magic of the Age of Gods ought to at least include some variety of illusory ability within it. No, there's just too much risk involved in Archer's suggestion, and you shake your head. While Archer might have a lot of skill when it comes to things like this, you just can't put your faith in a strategy that puts somebody at risk like that. You don't think that Archer's assessment of your opponents is better than your own either. So you shake your head as he waits for your answer. "No, Archer. I don't think we should rely on such a plan. It comes with too many risks and nobody can be certain that they would even take the bait. As much as I would like to capitalize on the opportunity to get rid of one of our enemies before the fight truly begins, I can't take the risk." You let your thoughts be known on Archer's plan first. The red cloaked bowman doesn't seem all too bothered by your rejection of his plan.

"No skin off my back." Archer merely shrugs. "Honestly, if it were an option here, I'd simply vote we detonated the entire temple in order to get rid of our enemies, but with the whole existence of the Greater Grail underneath the temple, that's just not a possibility." Archer frowns as he thinks about what would happen if the Greater Grail were to be destabilized and enter some sort of magical meltdown. You find yourself thinking the same thing as the white haired counterpart of the Master of Saber, you aren't sure just how much magical energy is contained in the powerful artifact exactly, it's practically so great it's impossible to measure, but you can estimate that Fuyuki would be no more if it did blow. The entire city would be wiped off of the map without a trace. That's not even to mention the sort of lasting damage that could be brought about through such an act.
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"Unfortunately, you're right. While it would be a simple affair if simply wiping the temple away with Noble Phantasms was a possibility, we do face that problem." Out of the corner of your eye you can see Illya frowning, and I get the feeling that Illya wouldn't be too pleased if we didn't at least give saving her Servant a decent attempt." Judging from what you actually saw of Illya and Avenger's interactions, you had assumed the two of them were actually somewhat cold with one another, but Illya seems to have really been caught up on losing her Servant. Is it simply the feeling of powerless that comes from being deprived such a powerful weapon? Or could she actually be missing Avenger? You aren't actually all too sure on that one. You didn't get to see enough of Illya's relationship with her Servant to properly make observations on the nature of it.

"If it worked, it would easily be the best option we have available to us. After all, there wouldn't be anything stopping us from going along with Archer's plan and then carrying out Lancer's suggestion afterwards." Bazett speaks up. "However, I share the opinion that it would practically be suicide for any of us to venture out alone in order to use themselves as bait." Seems that Bazett doesn't approve of Archer's idea either. Knowing Archer, he was probably just going to try to use this as an opportunity to nominate Shirou to be the one acting as bait. You wonder if the contract he has with the true Saber would hold any power over the false Saber... At least, the contract he has with Saber would almost certainly be felt by the altered version of Saber, even if the altered Servant isn't a direct corruption of the original, the resonance between two identical individuals is usually enough to cause unpredictable magical occurrences. In Shirou and Archer's case, despite their paths massively diverging, the resonance was great enough for Shirou to unlock his Reality Marble without requiring any sort of training through the sharing of memories.
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So then, if Archer and Shirou managed such a thing, what will end up being the case for Saber and Saber Alter? It's a dangerous thought, what if the corruption affecting Saber Alter manages to seep it's way onto Saber merely through doing battle with her corrupted clone? That would end up being a disaster of unparalleled proportions. You'll have to keep an eye on the two of them during their fight. Saber getting to be the one to deal with her evil twin may have been decided, but if the magical resonance between the two of them begins corrupting her, you won't hesitate to order a switch of group focus to destroying Saber Alter utterly. Saber will understand. Of course, this is only if such measures turn out to be necessary. With any luck, the lack of any temporal anomalies between the two Servants ought to prevent such magical anomalies from taking place in the first place. It's not an exact thing, to deal with two beings who should not possibly be able to co-exist in the same world on account of fundamentally being the same entity.

You try to draw your thoughts away from thinking any deeper onto the issue that is the existence of the duplicate Saber. You turn to the blue spearman, who is waiting patiently for your decision on his own plan. You can feel that he's satisfied that Archer's own plan was shot down almost immediately. "Actually, Lancer. I do like the idea of being able to weaken our opponents before the battle begins. It ought to make dealing with them all that much less of a monumental task." You approve the plan with a slight grin. "But the question is, are you up to the task?" The slight grin falls off your face. "The information I'm about to tell you all involves the extent of my knowledge on the strengths and weaknesses of the Servants I believe we will be up against at the temple. Each of them coming from the War before this one." Saber's eyes narrow as she realizes just what that means. The nightmare for the King of Knights that was the Fourth Holy Grail war will soon repeat itself. The troubled expression on her face is one of barely suppressed despair. You'll at least try to do Saber the mercy of not being forced to once against do battle with one of her once most loyal knights. You don't know if she'll even be able to cope with such a battle once again. "First off, Saber..." You trail off as you begin to explain the threats everyone will be facing...
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Almost thirty minute passes before you finish giving a relatively brief rundown of just about what every Servant that your enemy has should be capable of doing. The moment you finish talking "That true then, Saber? You remember fighting against this bunch?" As you finish giving the rundown of everyone's abilities from the Fourth War, including a slightly altered one befitting of the Altered Saber, Lancer seems to be getting excited about the caliber of the foes you will each be facing. Saber nods slowly as Lancer quizzes her, just that much seems to satisfy Lancer about the accuracy of your words though. Saber doesn't really seem all that bothered about the fact that the secret behind her identity has practically been obliterated, at least not after her first brief realization that everyone knew who she was.

Saber then proceeds to look directly at you with a piercing glare. "However, Master of Caster, you forgot to mention the Archer of the last war, didn't you? Why? If you believe our enemies to be the deceased Servants of the Fourth War, did you not include the one who is the biggest threat of them all? Why did you not bring up Archer?" Saber demands an answer as to why you didn't bring up Gilgamesh.

You chuckle briefly. "Because Gilgamesh isn't dead Saber. I don't know what you think happened at the end of the last war to him, but Gilgamesh survived and gained a human body." Saber looks as if she's ready to respond, but no words come to her lips, so you instead simply continue. "Assuming that the Servants need to have been relatively recently deceased for our enemy to resurrect them as it's slaves, then we should have nothing to fear from Gilgamesh..." You pause awkwardly. "Well, that is unless Gilgamesh shows up to crash our little operation." A possibility, but not an altogether likely one, thankfully. Gilgamesh seems to have been lulled into inaction for whatever reason. Perhaps he simply considers observation to be a more amusing way to spend his time. Though odds are he's just decided that it isn't quite time for his entrance yet. Putting the matter of Gilgamesh aside though, I do have some more information I wish to give you all. "First off, we've got an... uninvited guest snooping around the Grail War." You've got everyone's complete attention now.

"Oh what is it now? Did the Church decide to send the Burial Agency just to ruin everything even more, or something?" Rin doesn't sound impressed by the idea that there has been yet another unexpected development. Not that you can blame her. Rin probably just wanted this grail war to be a simple war with some powerful magical artifact at stake. Instead, she's having to deal with the fact that she's technically the one who has to take responsibility to stop the massive threats to her land as the Second Owner of Fuyuki.
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"You're close, sadly." You answer Rin with no humor in your voice. "No. There's a Dead Apostle Ancestor in town. The sixth ranked at that. Rizo-Waal Strout. I don't know what his motives are, but I know for a fact that he's to be avoided at all times at any cost, He's too dangerous an opponent to get into a battle with." You warn your allies away from doing battle with the vampire. Even if he did hurt Monica, you'll have to look past that for now. You just don't have the strength to spare for dealing with such a terrifyingly powerful opponent. In fact, of the Servants in Fuyuki right now, you think that only Gilgamesh would be able to actually defeat the Dead Apostle Ancestor by himself, and that's not the sort of fight that you'd want to get anywhere near should it actually happen. Nobody seems to have any sort of of objection to your request they don't go after the deadly vampire, so you move on to the last thing you wanted to tell them. "Finally, before we carry out our battle, I'm going to attempt to... recruit one more ally to our cause. It's a Servant I feel like we have a good chance at convincing to help us with the correct method." Namely having Caster sink Rule Breaker into her back while she's distracted and making your own contract with her. "However, some of you may have reservations against... associating with her."

"Why is that?" Saber is the one to question you here, and you sigh. This isn't going to be an easy thing to explain. But you suppose you'll just have to do your best.

"Because the Servant I refer to is Assassin, and is one of the Servants responsible for a slew of disappearances around the city." You slowly look each of your allies in the eyes. "Yes, Assassin seems to have problems with magical energy from her mana and has as a result... been forced to resort to the consumption of the human population of Fuyuki." Though that's obviously only a half truth, you don't think that her Master would allow his Servant to make such a mess if it wasn't actually a necessity.

"You... You can't be serious." Even Archer is caught off guard by your bold decision as he quickly realizes just what it is you intend to do. The red garbed man deeply frowns at you "That sounds suicidal, even by the standards I'm used to." Seems that Archer doesn't think that getting Assassin as an ally is a good idea at all. Then again, he's almost certainly made the connection as to who was responsible for the masses of bones in that alleyway now, so you don't blame him for thinking so poorly of Shuten. He's got no problem with allying with Rider though, and in his timeline, she almost did something worse through the usage of Bloodfort Andromeda.
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Shirou doesn't look at all happy by the prospect of teaming up with such a murderous entity. He doesn't look like he really knows what to say though, so it's instead Rin who decides to make her thoughts clear on things. "Are you out of your mind? Archer told me what he saw in that alleyway, and you want to just... team up with the monster responsible for that?!" The girl is shouting now, and you can tell that you're starting to lose them. You might be the leader, but if everyone decides to go against one of your ideas, there's nothing you can do. "How exactly were you planning on getting this monster on board anyway? Were you just going to stroll up to them and ask them not to eat you?!" Rin doesn't sound like she's expecting an answer. Too bad.

>"Well, doing that worked the first time. So I guess so, yeah."
>"Of course I'm not going to try to play fair with the man-eating monster. Do you take me for a fool? I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about that."
>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
>"You're right, Rin. I was foolish to think that recruiting Assassin was a possibility after what they've done. They might be powerful enough to turn the tide in our favor, but that power would come at too great a cost to be considered."
>Write-in...
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>>4492363
>"Of course I'm not going to try to play fair with the man-eating monster. Do you take me for a fool? I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about that."
>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
Not like we're signing off on the man eating part either, we don't have much of a choice, either she sides with us or we incur further risk of death on everyone
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>>4492363
>>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
But also mention that we already talked with her once and we are confident we could do it again.
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>>4492363
>Write-in...("I'm no fool, Rin. I know full well that monsters can't be changed. But some very well can be tamed and with some cleaver planning, some slick tricks and a lot of will power, even trained. Don't worry about a thing, I know what I'm doing.")
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>>4492363
I'm batman bitches
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>>4492363
>"Well, doing that worked the first time. So I guess so, yeah."
>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
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>>4492398
Support
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>>4492383
Support.
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>>4492363
I'm suprised Saber hasn't flipped out at us yet, shes the biggest lawful good character amongst our faction.
Only reason she tolerated Kerry was because he memed her into believing "the greater good" and even than she had massive discord with him.
Who wanna bet that Saber will eventually cause a massive hissy fit once the temple raid is over and shes less autistically focused on her evil clone?
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woops forgot to vote
>>4492363
>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
>>4492398
support
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>>4492363
>I’m well aware of the danger she poses. More so than you, in fact. That’s all the more reason to try and neutralize, or better yet get her on our side, without direct confrontation, especially if knowledge of her personality gives me an advantage.
>(explain the details)
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>>4492363
>Write-in...
>"It's easy, I'm going to borrow shirou on this one. Based on my analysis after my encounter with assassin, I'm 100% sure that shirou can "tame" this servant."
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>>4492499
If this doesn't go through, supporting this>>4492398
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i thought you guys were making shit up about a shiroufag
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>>4492506
I'm not a shiroufag. I'm legit thinking that shirou is compatible with shuten and he can be her master better than us.

That is if you're referring to me with that post, if not then ignore this.
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>>4492506
He is falseflagging coomer just look at his post history.
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>>4492492
I support this.
With Gilgamesh and DAA roaming around we are not in position to reject any help.
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>>4492506
He's the guy with a boner for Saber who wanted us to fuck every servant to power them up somehow. The poor smoothbrain thinks he's being clever but apparently people are actually buying his deal so what do I know.
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>>4492363
>"Well, doing that worked the first time. So I guess so, yeah."

>>4492514
That sounds plausible. It's like the bathing with dragon blood strategy but instead uses our high profanity magical semen.
Supporting this.
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>>4492508
Fuck off, your votes aren't getting counted. It's over. You're done.
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>>4492527
Says a 1 post poster. You should just use your real ID and confront me instead of hiding with new ID.
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>>4492363
>Write-in...
>"Doing that worked the first time. I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about it."
I would also like to say something about how its rude of Rin to call Shuten a monster due to her actions. Mana starved servants can do some wacky things (Medusa's Bloodfort, Gil's kid batteries at the church). Also, while Rin may not know it, she's in a room with Medusa and Medea, people who could be called monsters as well due to actions they were forced to make; Medusa killing to protect her siblings, Medea who was cursed because of Jason and then killed a bunch of people at his wedding. As one of those are our servant and the other is our sister's servant, it is quite rude how she is willing to works with these two "monsters" but won't work with another. Even though Shuten probably thinks killing is fun, she probably won't kill if we find something better to occupy her time with her alcohol. Besides, Getting Shuten on our side kills two birds with one stone: no more murders and we get a powerful ally. Maybe three birds if Zouken is her current master, and maybe even 4 birds if Ibaraki want to follow along as well.
I'd go further but this is getting a bit long.
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>>4492363
>>"Of course I'm not going to try to play fair with the man-eating monster. Do you take me for a fool? I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about that."
>>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
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>>4492363
>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
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>>4492363
>"Of course I'm not going to try to play fair with the man-eating monster. Do you take me for a fool? I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about that."
>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
but also >>4492398
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>>4492499
+1
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>>4492499
+1
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>>4492649
>>4492658
>2 posts by this ID
>1 post by this ID

>>4492363
ignore these two votes
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>>4492667
Why would the QM ignore the 2 post voter?
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>>4492363
>>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
Also let's not start judging morality regarding servants Rin.
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I can't wait for the time when samefagging coomers will force QM to implement voting system similar to "Sworn to Valour".
Then we will finally be free from those pathetic people who get mad and start trolling and falseflagging every time they lose.
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>>4492781
What is it, tripfagging?
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>>4492783
Something like this.
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Please, whoever is trying to fuck up the score of the last thread on the archive, can you not?
You're acting like a royal faggot.
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>>4492789
Assblasted coomers prove once again that they are the worst representatives of the human race.
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Coomers here.
Please explain what a score is, where was it and what does that have anything to do with the qst.
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>>4492789
Like, did you get money from this? Or is this some kind of reddot upvote things?

I'm speaking up because that ID who only posted just to shit on coomers without contributing shit, accuse me and my fellow coomrades.
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>>4492804
On the sup/tg/ archives, threads are given scores by voting.
The score doesn't actually mean anything other than an indication of whether or not somebody liked the thread.
That doesn't stop retards from thinking that down-voting it will actually do something other than revealing how pathetic they are.

>>4492805
Nah you don't get anything from it, that's why it's so ridiculous to go out of your way to try to ruin.
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>>4492805
I have contributed by exposing your rotten nature for everyone to see.
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Goddamnit, by this point i almost wish every single girl would just reject Shinji so that the coomers would go the fuck away. And i'm a Casterfag. This is just getting ridiculous.

>>4492363
>"Of course I'm not going to try to play fair with the man-eating monster. Do you take me for a fool? I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about that."
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>>4492806
Well that does sounds kinda dumb. For all its worth, let's hope that they leave after this.

>>4492808
Sure you are you fucktard. I appreciate you more if you put some input or ideas to how things will be going.
The coomers is better because they at least think of an idea to get their dicks wet instead of complaining that the vote didn't go the way they want like whatever you're doing right now.
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All I want is for our cock to plunge into a gooey Loli pussy
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>>4492812
Sorry but Betty is for daighteruing
Illya and Shuten are for giving adult bodies to.
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>>4492811
But the vote did go my way. It were your coomer friends shitting up this thread after they got wrecked.
I have also provided QM with a great idea right here >>4492781

I wish you would learn how to read so you would never again shit out worthless posts like the one I am replying to right now.
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>>4492811
Oh, you're that retard who can't write in english.
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>>4492809
Then come my child. Let us go with the shirou harem route.
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>>4492811
No.
Cheating in votes is much worse than sanctimonious angerposting, whether the cheating was motivated by hormone induced sanity loss or malicious intent towards the quest itself.

Although it too can become an eyesore, it is an understandable response.
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>>4492788
Wow that is autistic. Hope this doesn't have to be a thing, especially with my retarded sleep schedule.
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>>4492818
You're banned from the quest.
Leave.
Cunt.
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>>4492815
I mean a contribution to the qst you mongoloid. Like this guy said >>4492514 about fucking every servant to power them up somehow. That kind of ideas. It doesn't have to be about cooming.
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>>4492822
Okay 1 post poster.
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>>4492823
His idea is retarded so there really is no surprise that something like you would find it appealing.
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>>4492824
I know QM he sayyou aren't welcome.
Go away.
Vamoose.
Dog.
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>>4492827
I don't even...
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>>4492827
Whatisaqm is my dad and he beats me everyday and he says you’re banned from the quest bucko. Better get out of here.
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Man I can't even tell whos falseflagging and whos genuinely autistic anymore.
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>>4492836
They're both.
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>>4492835
I AM THE QM.
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>>4492836
Same. Goddamn. Btw, i don't remember, have we used any Commands yet?
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Ok.
It's time to stop.
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>sametwat now downvoting QMs other quest
Poor QM.
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>>4492861
>this thread has 20+ votes on suptg yet is at +1
lmao shiroufags/coomers full on assblasted

reminder to upvote this quest on suptg
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>>4492853
If you mean by command spell, no we haven't used any.
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>>4492903
Please don't implement the 1 post thing. It'll fuck me over.
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>>4492925
Oh, no! Not the guy whose only contribution was to support "I am batman bitches" post.
Whatever will we do without you?
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>>4492931
You see that raindrop. I have to restart my phone to even get it to charge. Sometimes that doesn't even work. Fuck off coomer.
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>>4492903
Hahaha, I'm so sorry it's gotta be like this, but we'll look back on this and laugh when it's over.
Unless of course you don't successfully get trolled into quitting.
Just know you're efforts are genuinely appreciated and this quest is alot of fun and worth all the autists talking to themselves.
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>>4492903
Don't be afraid to take a break if you need to. I don't want this quest to die because of this ultrautism.
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>>4492933
I have no clue what I was supposed to gleam from this pile of refuge you just excreted onto the thread.
You claim to have difficulty with your phone and yet after allegedly going through great troubles to get access to this thread the only contribution you give is a support for a meaningless vote that will not even be counted.
And then you call me "coomer" even though my post contained merely an observation of your uselessness.
I believe this is a clear proof of your mental deficiency and I recommend that you never reply to my posts again.
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>>4492941
I'm saying you inept retard that I'm a 1 id because when I have to restart it changes my ip.
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shiroufags/coomers are a fucking cancer

>>4492363
>>"Of course I'm not going to try to play fair with the man-eating monster. Do you take me for a fool? I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about that."
>>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
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>>4492945
Do you have problems with reading comprehension?
I did not say anything about quantity of your posts.
I just said that 100% of your posts were completely useless.
Next time before you explode into an autistic rage make sure that you understood things correctly in order not to expose your backward nature.
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>>4492952
Yeah sorry my 1 post id wasn't up to your standards.
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>>4492965
I accept your apology this time. Next time think before you talk.
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>>4492952
Also if you're the same fagger then you're filtered. You bring nothing of value to this quest.
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>>4492970
You didn't even vote. What value are you talking about?
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And just like that half the thread is cleaned up.
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>>4492398
Support and of course I'm no fool and try to say something to knock her down a peg.
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>>4492984
Sorry meant to tag what is
>>4492363
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>>4492903
I love you.
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>>4492903
Ignore all of the autists QM, your quest is one of the best I've read in a long time. Most of the oldfags are actually autistic and coomers because they've been around since Fate was an H game and picked apart a story/fandom from said H game. I am one of those oldfags too unfortunately, but I don't give a crap about who we romance unlike all of the screeching idiots that hijacked this thread.
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>>4492903
I love you
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>>4492903
Here, have a best girl
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>>4493057
>best girl
Not even close
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>>4492903
Do not lose hope, OP. Things could be much, much worse.
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>>4492363
>"Of course I'm not going to try to play fair with the man-eating monster. Do you take me for a fool? I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about that."
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>>4492903
its a Fate quest QM. what did u honesty expect? Fate quests as a rule always attracts the most autistic players
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If you fags keep this up Whatis will probably quit this quest.
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If a tism hurricane kills this I will be pretty disappointed. I dont suppose you guys can tone it down a little?
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I should be able to start writing in 20 minutes.
If anybody feels like tallying the votes for me before that, it would be much appreciated.

Also managed to get my left hand shut in a door so I'm having to type with only a single hand unless I want to invite pain.
Update might end up shorter as a result.
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>>4493506
Best of luck with the update. Hopefully we can actually convince everyone that this isn’t an awful idea
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>>4492363
>"Of course I'm not going to try to play fair with the man-eating monster. Do you take me for a fool? I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about that."
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>>4493506

Do you take me for a fool? + I don't like the idea either
>>4492367
>>4492600
>>4492644
>>4492946

I don't like the idea either
>>4492369
>>4492472
>>4492605
>>4492758

I think these two are tied? I'll change my vote to the combination if I didn't fuck up.
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>>4493561
Is it a tie with all the votes tallied then?
Just wondering how you tallied.
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>>4493570
This anon made it a 3 way tie >>4493553
The rest only had 1~3 votes unless you want to count batman. Trying to sort this shit gave me a headache.
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>>4492363
>>4493553
Then I guess I will switch to
>"Of course I'm not going to try to play fair with the man-eating monster. Do you take me for a fool? I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about that." and
>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
Now there is no tie. Do you take me for a fool? + I don't like the idea either wins.
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>>4493588
Batman won desu but anything is fine if it makes qm write faster.
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>>4493684
Awesome. Would add some good flavor. Thanks boyos for voting for my idea.
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>>4492398
Support
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>>4493588
Ignoring the batman vote kinda showed that "write-in" meant nothing.
Maybe next time you should also ignore the vote that you didn't like.
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>>4493708
Retarded votes do not deserve any attention.
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>>4493708
i'm not even sure that batman is even real in this universe
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>>4493708
I'm not going to count obvious shitposts as votes.

That vote isn't valid for the same reason that writing in.
>Transform into a jet and kill Gilgamesh.
isn't valid.
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You frown. You really have found yourself doing that far too much for your liking recently, but your own displeasure with having to convince your allies as to the logic behind your plan aside, they do deserve to be given an explanation. Otherwise you never would've brought it up in the first place. Of course that doesn't mean you have to be happy about things. "Do you take me for a fool, Rin?" You glare at the twin-tailed girl who flinches backwards at your sudden intense gaze. "Of course I'm not going to play fair with a man-eating Servant like the one we're discussing here. I know that doing such a thing would amount to no more than simple suicide. That's why I've got a plan to ensure that this Assassin won't be able to resist helping us." You do hope you have enough magical energy to sustain Shuten as well as Medea and Betty. You might have a vast amount to spare, but you feel like three is just getting to be a ridiculous number of Servants to keep sustained with your own magical energy alone. If you are to actually meet with success when it comes to recruiting Shuten, then actually having enough magical energy to do so is crucial. Thankfully, while having to sustain so many Servants will put quite the strain on you as a Master and hamper your own magical ability to a large degree, the benefits of having a Servant as powerful as Shuten on your side far outweigh the drawbacks. So long as you retain enough of your magical energy in order to use your healing magecraft once or twice, that will be enough.

"You've got a plan, huh?" Rin doesn't sound convinced by your confidence, and she continues being skeptical. "So, tell me, even if you do somehow manage to get this Servant to agree to join us, how exactly are you going to get them to agree to put a stop to their cannibalistic ways?" You feel like pointing out to Rin that it technically isn't cannibalism, because Oni aren't humans, well, technically neither are Servants if you want to be specific, not really. But you feel like revealing the identity of Assassin would just be fuel to the fire here. Everyone in this country ought to be aware of the legend of Shuten Dōji, and Rin is no exception. Shuten's true name being revealed here would only serve to make your life that much more difficult. At least she's not going to push for more information on your plan. It's a genuinely pretty simple one honestly. You just need to make sure that you can get Shuten careless enough that either Medea or yourself is in a position where you can stab her with Rule Breaker... Of course, convincing Medea into letting you borrow her Noble Phantasm might end up being a task in itself, but it would have the highest chance of success when it comes to scoring a hit on Shuten with it. Even if you were to have Medea teleport in for an attack, Shuten would easily be able to react and respond to an attack like that.
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"Look, Rin. I don't like this idea all too much either, you know?" You drop the harshness from your tone and try a more diplomatic approach now. "I know that the Servant I want to recruit is probably a terrible monster, but I don't think they are one that is unable to be reasoned with." You pause and look around the room, briefly looking at the people sitting down with the capacity within them to be twisted into doing acts of evil far more depraved than Shuten's foul act. Medusa, Sakura, Medea. Each of them have a capacity within them to perform acts of terrible evil if they are given no other choice, and that's just as a start! There are more people around this table capable of performing monstrous acts to get their own way than not, you think. Even the morally just Saber could be convinced to slay her own Master to claim the grail. Shuten... well, Shuten is the sort of person who would enjoy the act of evil, but that's really mostly due to Shuten being the sort of person who could find enjoyment in doing just about anything. An undeniable hedonist in every regard, a girl who lived for no reason other than to please herself, even at the expense of her own people. It was almost certainly a slaughter of necessity, it's just that Shuten is one of the few Servants capable of openly enjoying such a thing. "Sometimes... Sometimes you need to end up allying yourself with a monster for the sake of defeating a greater monster. It's a simple 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' routine." You shrug. Hopefully that much will be enough.

"Really? That's the logic you're going with?" Rin sounds unimpressed as she crosses her arms. "Do you really think that the Servant responsible for devouring so many people is going to see things the same way?" Rin asks another question, but you can tell that she's either beginning to be convinced by your logic, or is just about ready to give up. Either way, it's your victory, you can already tell.

"Maybe they will, maybe they won't. My plan doesn't really require them to be all too cooperative anyway. So long as they don't attack me immediately, I should be able to succeed in getting Assassin to help us." Unless Shuten has for some reason lost control of her faculties and is embracing the madness inherent to the demonic Oni, she definitely won't attack you without warning.

"If you say so." Rin looks completely disappointed by the way things are going, but she doesn't raise any more objections. You're pretty sure she's just frustrated by the whole state of affairs going on in Fuyuki. Rin should have a very poor opinion of any sort of Servant that targets innocent people thanks to the brutal and heartless actions taken by Caster and his Master in the last war. She probably wants nothing more than to see Assassin slain for her sins, but so long as you can blame her actions on her Master, you feel as if getting Rin to agree that keeping her around won't be impossible.
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'Pardon my interruption, Master, but do you mind if I ask what you have in mind for this plan of convincing this Assassin to aid us?' Caster's voice rings out in your head through the telepathic connection you share with the magic user. She sounds fairly curious as to your plan, and seeing as she's going to be playing a crucial part in it, you really do have to tell her.

>'The plan will involve getting Assassin drunk enough that she can't respond when you teleport in to strike her with your Noble Phantasm. Then I'll simply forge a new contract with her while she has no choice.'
>'The plan will involve tricking Assassin into a trap and magically binding her. Seeing as she has no magic resistance, you ought to excel here!'
>'The plan will involve simply asking Assassin if she wants to leave her Master and join me. Though if she says no, I want you to immediately teleport me away from her.'
>'Now that I think about it, wouldn't it be simpler if I were to just have her subdued by everyone here working together? No matter how strong Assassin is, even she couldn't fend off such a vast assault.'
>Write-in...
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>>4493713
Dude fuck you. It's just a statement.
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Time to shitpost this into oblivion.
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>>4493727
Samefagging coomer is geeting mad again.
Look out QM! He is going to downvote all your threads.
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>>4493719
>>'The plan will involve getting Assassin drunk enough that she can't respond when you teleport in to strike her with your Noble Phantasm. Then I'll simply forge a new contract with her while she has no choice.'
Preferably try to get her on our side by choice first, but if she is Wormpas servant I want him out ASAP.
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>>4493719
>>'The plan will involve simply asking Assassin if she wants to leave her Master and join me. Though if she says no, I want you to immediately teleport me away from her.'
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>>4493727
>>4493730
Do me a huge favour and fuck off instead, you babbling incomprehensible retard.
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>>4493719
>>'The plan will involve getting Assassin drunk enough that she can't respond when you teleport in to strike her with your Noble Phantasm. Then I'll simply forge a new contract with her while she has no choice.'
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>>4493743
Kill yourself retard.
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>>4493719
>>'The plan will involve getting Assassin drunk enough that she can't respond when you teleport in to strike her with your Noble Phantasm. Then I'll simply forge a new contract with her while she has no choice.'
Also we should use a command seal that puts an end to the man eating. That placates Rin and anyone else with a moral objection to this plan since we're giving up a valuable tool for a noble reason
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>>4493719
The plans will involve getting her drunk. But not enough to date rape.
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>>4493743
Imagine being this anon.
What a laughable little gremlin.
Everyone laugh at him.
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>>4493751
You OK? You need some help?
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>>4493733
Is it even possible to get her drunk.
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>>4493754
I just want to write an enjoyable quest.
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>>4493756
Well, I sure as fuck hope so. I don't think it'd be a suggested option if it wasn't possible considering MC is a big Fatefag and should know whether it works or not.
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>>4493719
>>'The plan will involve simply asking Assassin if she wants to leave her Master and join me. Though if she says no, I want you to immediately teleport me away from her.'
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>>4493757
Well maybe allow votes that won
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>>4493756
why would you drink if you couldn't get drunk
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>>4493743
Just don’t respond to the bait. He clearly just wants attention so he is being a complete retard.
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>>4493760
Nice one.
You almost had me fooled for a second there.
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>>4493761
Good point. But is it possible for us to get her drunk.
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>>4493764
>>4493766
Well, since QM is here, can we get confirmation that getting her drunk is actually possible?
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>>4493760
Don't listen to this retard QM. Retarded votes deserve to be ignored no matter how many retards support them.
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>>4493768
It depends on the alcohol.

>>4493769
I just want to know what samefag anon thinks "funny batman reference" would've accomplished.
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>>4493773
To sound like a moron, likely.
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>>4493766
Well considering that she was killed by being tricked into drinking spiked alcohol and servants have that whole "Conceptual Weakness" thing, it is possible that spiked alcohol actually effects her even more than it actually should
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>>4493773
It's just shitposting for the sake of shitposting.
Things didn't go his way so now he shits up the thread.
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>>4493773
A funny exchange. That's all.
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>>4493775
You have me convinced.
>>4493719
>'The plan will involve getting Assassin drunk enough that she can't respond when you teleport in to strike her with your Noble Phantasm. Then I'll simply forge a new contract with her while she has no choice.'
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>>4493778
It would have done permanent damage to your relationship with practically everyone at the table.
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>>4493719
>'The plan will involve simply asking Assassin if she wants to leave her Master and join me. Though if she says no, I want you to immediately teleport me away from her.'
QM calm down lmao. You're losing it. You can take a break from this quest if you need to.
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>>4493782
Well you could have taken off bitches. Comedy is good once in a while
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>>4493778
are you actually autistic? Like do you not understand that acting like a retard in a serious and tense situation isn't actually a good idea?
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>>4493784
Yes, but not when Rin is accusing you of working with a war criminal.
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>>4493782
He doesn't care. He will vote for anything as long as it's "funneh".
Thank You for ignoring this vote QM. And thank You for clearing up that one horribly samefagged vote. As someone who followed this quest for months I really apreciate your decisiveness.
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>>4493784
It's genuinely staggering that you think "bitches" is the crux of the issue here.

And not the whole thing with completely disregarding Rin's legitimate concerns to make a batman reference.
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>>4493719
>'The plan will involve getting Assassin drunk enough that she can't respond when you teleport in to strike her with your Noble Phantasm. Then I'll simply forge a new contract with her while she has no choice.'

Also, do we have anything to resist/counter her "Intoxicating Aroma" NP?
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>>4493789
Fuck rin, she's a cunt.
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>>4493793
Please ignore the obvious bait.
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>>4493784
Anon, I hate to break it to you but spouting random pop culture bullshit at the worst moment doesn't make you likable, specially in a room where more than half the people there don't have any idea of what you are talking about.
I knew everyone here is socially stunted but I thought we had self-awareness.
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>>4493795
Fuck off coomer
>>4493796
This is fate, it's all about autism
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>>4493792
I believe it doesn't work on us. At least it didn't work last time we met Shuten.
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>>4493793
Alright then.
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>>4493800
Maybe last time she didn't use it?
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>>4493802
Wow you're a fagguette
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>>4493803
I am pretty sure she did. Why don't we ask QM?
Hey WhatIsAQM. Did Shuten use it last time or not?
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>>4493809
Get the fuck out of my quest.
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>>4493813
Dude chill. Don't let the coomers get to you.
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>>4493811
You believe she did and you successfully resisted it at the time.
Though you don't know if she was using it to it's full extent.
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In b4 purge. This shit is too funny.
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>>4493803
So we have our answer right here
>>4493818
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>>4493819
This thread is cursed, its been one shitstorm after another shitstorm.
It was perfectly fine until this thread, we've had like one other samefag situation in past threads before this one.
I think its just one samefag that picked up this quest starting this thread and now is baiting the QM nonstop.

Its the only explanation for why this quests playerbase turned into such shit within a single thread with nonstop shitstorms.
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>>4493823
Agreed about the baiting but there has been same fagging nonstop since at vote to save and abandon kiritsugu,
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>>4493824
Yeah but it was subtle samefagging that barely anyone noticed.
This thread theres been extremely blantant samefagging, shitposting and baiting
I think its all just one anon trolling the quest nonstop.
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>>4493827
wouldn't really call it subtle, me and like another person called it out
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>>4493827
It wasn't subtle there was a ton of last minute 1 id posts just that no one pointed it out. I think the samefags are angry that they are being pointed out hence the trolling.
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>>4493827
>>4493824
>>4493823
Stop samefagging
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>>4493832
I am not samefagging.
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>>4493719
>'The plan will involve getting Assassin drunk enough that she can't respond when you teleport in to strike her with your Noble Phantasm. Then I'll simply forge a new contract with her while she has no choice.'
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>>4493833
Anon, You are replying to bait.
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>>4493756
Yes, the problem is that she's always in drunk mode by default. It wouldn't make any difference for her if we try to make her more drunk.
1. She's oni, she could and will backstab you for no reason. The only way to make her ours is either by force or by her own whim if she finds us interesting. (note that being interesting and delicious is not the same thing to her, she will eat if given the chance)
2. If, the berserker is ibaraki (it could be tomoe by the description before) her and shuten always comes in pair. Just be ready for her. She will be around near shuten most of the time. And even if she's not around when we confronted shuten she will come looking for her.

Best keep those in mind.
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>>4493719
>'The plan will involve getting Assassin drunk enough that she can't respond when you teleport in to strike her with your Noble Phantasm. Then I'll simply forge a new contract with her while she has no choice.'

Hopefully our boys got some strong stuff
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>>4493746
Support.
>>4493823
I think whoever is samefagging just wants to troll QM off of making this story because he didn't get his dumb romance choice. I hope QM doesn't abandon this story because of that retard, I'm really invested in the story so far and how it will unfold.
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>>4493840
OK 1 id
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>>4493840
what romance choice? Monica? That's still in play
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>>4493840
Doesn't explain how everything was fine until this thread when it turned into colossal shite.
What romance choice did we even make this thread that could've caused coomer samefag autism?
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>>4493844
We didn't continue tongue kissing Monica when she woke up.
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>>4493844
It turned shit this thread because this thread was the first to have anti-samefag measures.
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>>4493837
That's why we should bring some extra protection and have Archer do his Archer thing and be prepared to start sniping
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>>4493845
This. Was the right choice and the virgins ruined it.
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>>4493845
That as well. But overall I think it will fade in time. Also the real reason he got angry about the batman vote was because half of the votes where him samefagging.
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>>4493851
False
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So do you think Shuten would know if we actually tried to drug her?
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>>4493847
Do we know where we're going to meet her? I don't really want to kill her.
And I forget to add
>>4493837
Shuten WILL find shirou interesting and I would gamble that she will be interested in being his servant.
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>>4493841
Hi coomer, didn't QM tell you to go?
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>>4493851
Oh, he was undoubtedly samefagging. And now he tries to bait.
>>4493854
Even if she knew she would still drink it.
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>>4493854
She'd probably be into it.
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>>4493856
Anon, You are replying to bait.
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>>4493856
You must be a Muslim
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>>4493857
>Even if she knew she would still drink it.
But she would also eat us.
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>>4493855
You realise that Shirou would be disgusted with Shuten right? He would never agree to be her master.
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>>4493862
With our healing we could just give her a few of our limbs willingly.
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>>4493864
Naw, I'm sure he'll find good in her bad. That's how shirou is.
Besides we could force shirou's reality marble awakening if we brought him instead of archer.
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>>4493857
>>4493860
again, conceptual weakness comes into play, Enkidu fucking ran for it when the Pale Rider showed up because disease killed him and he would be vulnerable to his attacks. If we do the same to Shuten then the poisoned alcohol would have a greater effect on her than it actually should because that's partly how she died
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like Medb is straight up weak against cheese because someone killed her with it
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>>4493869
But she would still knew if we tried to poison her. While she may drink it still, she will know our intentions.
And she probably would think we came to eliminate her.

Should we begin first by saying to shuten that we want her to be our servant?
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>>4493719
>'The plan will involve simply asking Assassin if she wants to leave her Master and join me. Though if she says no, I want you to immediately teleport me away from her.'
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>>4493878
we don't have to kill her, just make her sleep or pass out
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>>4493719
>'The plan will involve simply asking Assassin if she wants to leave her Master and join me. Though if she says no, I want you to immediately teleport me away from her.'
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>>4493886
But if she detects poison will she just kill first ask later?
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>>4493719
>'The plan will involve simply asking Assassin if she wants to leave her Master and join me. Though if she says no, I want you to immediately teleport me away from her.'
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>>4493925
I've played Fgo and only person shuten cares about is kintoki who poisoned her. She literally drank alcohol knowing its poisoned just cus Kintoki was her type of guy.

We're either Shuten's type and she happily drinks poison even with knowledge shes being poisoned or we aren't her type of guy and she eats us. One or the other anon.
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>>4493719
>first I will attempt to simply bribe her with alcohol and promise of sufficient supply of mana into betraying her master.
>for the next part I’d need to take advantage of your Noble Phantasm. Depending on How amenable she is, we could use it with or without her consent. I’ll endeavour to get her intoxicated enough to not pose a threat, but I’d rather not expose you to danger unnecessarily.
>throughout, I’d like both you and Betty to look out for me and get me out of there if things got sour. I’d rather not engage in a slugfest though because the assassin has homeland advantage.
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>>4493719
I will switch from >>4493736
to >>4493938
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>>4493719
>>'The plan will involve getting Assassin drunk enough that she can't respond when you teleport in to strike her with your Noble Phantasm. Then I'll simply forge a new contract with her while she has no choice.'
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>>4493849
>NOOOOOOOOOO! WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T KISS OUR FRIEND WITHOUT HER CONSENT!
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>>4493719
>'The plan will involve getting Assassin drunk enough that she can't respond when you teleport in to strike her with your Noble Phantasm. Then I'll simply forge a new contract with her while she has no choice.'
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>>4493719
>>'The plan will involve getting Assassin drunk enough that she can't respond when you teleport in to strike her with your Noble Phantasm. Then I'll simply forge a new contract with her while she has no choice.'
Spike it with aphrodisiacs, take advantage of conceptual weakness. The power of doujins is with us. If not, then i'll go with whatever we end up spiking it with. Conceptual weakness is too big a factor for us to not exploit ut
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>>4493931
Even fgo mc didn't really budge her. She only had eyes for Kintoki.
This will turn bad real fast.
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Now that I think about it having Shuten on our side would really help us out against Altrouge.
She is not a human, so she could face off against Primate Murder without getting instantly wrecked.
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>>4493719
Lure her into a trap
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You coomers realize that you can literally just ask Medea for sex and she'll probably agree, right?
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>>4494240
No I don’t think we can.
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>>4494240
I want to ask Medea to hold hands while teleporting.

But on more serious note, I want to make sure she feels appreciated as person and ally, rather than just an arcane powerhouse. She brings immense utility but we should avoid her feeling that’s all she is.
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>>4494297
Even if we could, we shouldn't
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Ok wild idea, if Medea can teleport Servants in, why not teleport an enemy Servant out and gangbang him? Like Cu and Archer could pin down Deermud at the gate for Medea to take him out and then the team just buttfuck him when he is alone.
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>>4494240
we can ask Sakura to have sex and she'd jump us before we finish asking her
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>>4494240
>>4494297
>>4494320
We can also visit red light distict or fly to Epstein's island.
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>>4494240
>>4494320
>>4494326
You can have the most sexual sex incarnate right besides you and you still won't going to fuck her.
The problem here isn't about the people that we can fuck, it's about us that don't want to make the first move.
After this, if we have a downtime try having sex with medea to see if our mana would give buff to a servant we sexed.
But fuck it, faggots would probably ignore that kind of idea and just yell coomers this coomers that.
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>>4494377
Well if you wanna see if sex actually buffs you then its probably a good idea to do it with someone that won't fuck you to death
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>Get her drunk (more than usual)
>>4493733
>>4493740
>>4493746
>>4493780
>>4493792
>>4493834
>>4493839
>>4493985
>>4494056
>>4494064

>Just ask
>>4493759
>>4493783
>>4493883
>>4493904
>>4493930

>Write-in plan
>>4493938
>>4493967
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>>4494764
20 hours since last update.
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>>4494789
>>4494791
What are you testing?
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>>4494796
Whether my pass works, that OK?
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'The plan is that we get Assassin drunk, Caster. I happen to know Assassin's true name, and with it, her weakness. Then, when she's too drunk to properly respond, you'll teleport in and strike her with your Noble Phantasm!' Though you aren't sure just how much difficulty you're going to have with exploiting Shuten's fondness for alcohol. While she might be conceptually weak to powerful alcohol, actually finding an alcohol strong enough to actually overcome Shuten's natural tolerance for the stuff may end up being more difficult than can be overcome. You can really only hope that your lackeys managed to get you something that will do the trick. You realize that you might've been able to have asked Caster to create an alcohol that would've definitely been strong enough to work, but it's too late for that now. You don't have enough time left to put your Servant to work as a brewer of alcohol in time for your meeting with Shuten. Not unless Medea is capable of creating an alcohol potent enough to floor an Oni within a few hours, and even you doubt that.

'Her weakness... is being drunk?' Caster sounds terribly skeptical of your sudden revelation, but isn't the sort of person to disbelieve something just based on how odd of place it might sound. 'I understand that many heroic spirits may have had a fondness for alcohol, but an actual weakness?' Well in a way, Medea is correct. Shuten's weakness for alcohol is her fondness for the stuff.

'In a sense, yes. While it was the consumption of poisoned alcohol that was the thing that lead to Shuten Dōji's downfall, her fondness for alcohol was the thing that lead her to that outcome. Even though she knew that the alcohol was poisoned, she decided to drink it regardless, allowing herself to be weakened enough to be slain as a result.'

'And this is the sort of person you're hoping to recruit?' You think there's a slight tone of disapproval in Medea's voice, not that you can really blame her. As an ally, you know the Shuten is going to be terribly unreliable. In fact, even if she were your Servant, it's not really like you could force her to do anything she didn't want to do short of using a command spell on her, and she's powerful enough that even a basic command spell might not be enough to compel her! Convincing Shuten to make herself useful as your Servant in truth might actually be might be more difficult than simply convincing her to become your Servant in the first place!
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'Make no mistake, she might be horribly unreliable as far as personality goes, but Assassin is an immensely powerful Servant. In fact, she'd be a tremendous threat to practically any Servant under normal circumstances, but in Japan, there are very few Servants who could defeat Shuten Dōji in single combat. In fact, even our alliance might end up having difficulty defeating her, and that's if we all worked together!' You don't exaggerate at all. From what you saw of Shuten in your brief meeting with her, a battle with her could very likely end up with one of your allies being killed in the fighting, even if you planned meticulously for it. That's one of the reasons you want to recruit her instead of fight her. She's far too powerful not to at least try to get on your own side. You aren't expecting being her Master to be easy, but it's better than the costly battle that killing her would involve. Besides, there's a part of you that simply doesn't want to kill Shuten. It's not like she can't behave herself, even if she would simply want to do only what pleased her, you can probably at least get her to agree not to kill any innocent people.

'I truly hope you know what you're doing, Master. If you can truly get this Assassin incapacitated, then striking her with my Noble Phantasm should be simple. Of course, you'll need to forcibly create a contract with her, but I can assist with that.' Caster leaves you with that thought, and you can tell that the mental conversation if over. Honestly, you hope that you know what you're doing too. This could quickly go wrong, be it in attempting to get Shuten drunk in the first place, or even attempting to get her to go along with your commands when she realizes that you're her new Master! You don't want to be forced to use a command spell to order her to not attempt to hurt you, especially because such a command wouldn't have much power in it.

"Finished zoning out?" Rin has her arms crossed while she stares at you. Looks like allowing yourself to get distracted by your conversation with Medea has left everyone in the room in quite the awkward silence. They probably knew exactly what you were doing, but in a way, that simply makes things worse. For everyone in the room not to be privy to the contents of a conversation. Of course, they can't say anything, because they've all undoubtedly been conversing with their own Servants in private. Except maybe Shirou and Saber. Those two are honest to a fault, such deceptive thoughts really wouldn't even occur to the two of them. Ironic considering that Saber spent almost her entire life deceiving those around her about herself, but deep down, she's not the sort of person who would think of such tactics.
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You cough into your hand. "My apologies, yes, I just needed to clarify a few things with Caster." You don't mind apologizing in a situation like this. After all, it would reflect even worse on you if you refused to apologize for such a blatant act of rudeness. You're supposed to be chairing this discussion, and you pretty much just did the magical equivalent of taking a phone call in the middle of an important meeting. Though it's not really like you have anything else to say. "I think we might be done here regardless. Now, before I go and take care of business, I believe we ought to get something cleared up before the battle at the temple..."

>"...this will be primarily an extraction mission. We will be fighting to stall, not fighting to kill."
>"...this will be one of our best shots at thinning our enemies forces, if not wiping them out altogether. Don't be afraid of taking a risk to score a fatal injury on an opponent."
>"...that Avenger is our only focus. Everyone will stick together and charge through their defenses. No glory-seeking. We need this to be a success."
>Write-in.
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>>4494987
Extraction mission
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>>4494987
>"...this will be primarily an extraction mission. We will be fighting to stall, not fighting to kill."
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>>4494987
>>"...that Avenger is our only focus. Everyone will stick together and charge through their defenses. No glory-seeking. We need this to be a success."
Not much point in stalling when we can just break in, grab Avenger, and teleport out.
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>>4494987
>"...this will be primarily an extraction mission. We will be fighting to stall, not fighting to kill."
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>>4494987
>>"...this will be primarily an extraction mission. We will be fighting to stall, not fighting to kill."
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wait whats even the difference between extraction and saving Avenger, those 2 things are the same
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>>4494987
>"...this will be primarily an extraction mission. We will be fighting to stall, not fighting to kill."
Recover Avenger from the hands of the enemy, safely get out alive with as much intel as possible too. Success is if Avenger is freed and still an ally and no allies have died.
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>>4495012
Extraction would have one on one fights to stall for an extraction team.
Saving Avenger has everyone move as a unit.
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>>4494987
>>"...this will be primarily an extraction mission. We will be fighting to stall, not fighting to kill."
We should make the jeweled sword.
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yeah extraction is the way to go then, getting grouped together is a recipe for disaster. Worst case scenario if we go one on one stall fights, we lose maybe or 2 servants, worst case for sticking in a group? Everyone dies
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>>4494987
>"...this will be primarily an extraction mission. We will be fighting to stall, not fighting to kill."
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>>4494987
>"...this will be primarily an extraction mission. We will be fighting to stall, not fighting to kill."
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>>4494987
>"...this will be primarily an extraction mission. We will be fighting to stall, not fighting to kill."
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>>4494987
>"...this will be primarily an extraction mission. We will be fighting to stall, not fighting to kill."
>"if possible, I want to know who's the mastermind mad enough to do all of this and have an alliance with them"
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>>4494987
>Let Shirou be the leader of operation, and let him do all the saving while you act as the bait. Hold off any servant that's attacking you and demand for the culprit to come out and offer a negotiation.
Diplomacy route here we go.
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>>4494987
>"...this will be primarily an extraction mission. We will be fighting to stall, not fighting to kill."
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>>4494987
>"...this will be one of our best shots at thinning our enemies forces, if not wiping them out altogether. Don't be afraid of taking a risk to score a fatal injury on an opponent."
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>>4494987
>We are leaving no one behind. Fight to not lose, and look out for each other. Do not pull your punches and do not be afraid to fight dirty, though I believe most of you don’t need to be told that.
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>>4494987
>>"...this will be primarily an extraction mission. We will be fighting to stall, not fighting to kill."
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>>4495116
Support
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>>4494987
>"...this will be primarily an extraction mission. We will be fighting to stall, not fighting to kill."
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>>4494987
>>"...this will be primarily an extraction mission. We will be fighting to stall, not fighting to kill."
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"...this will primarily be an extraction mission to get Avenger out of the enemies clutches before they manage to finally subvert him to their cause. As such, we will be fighting to stall, not fighting to kill." You remind your allies of just what it is your goal is for the battle. "That isn't to say that you shouldn't take an opportunity to strike an opponent down, should it be presented to you, but don't take any risks that might jeopardize the mission. I need everyone here alive." Then your voice turns grim and your expression darkens as you look only at the Servants positioned around the table. "After all, right now, we don't even know whether or not our opponent is capable of resummoning Servants that are slain in this grail war." Things will quickly become nightmarish if you find that your adversary is capable of such a feat. You'd really rather not find out whether or not whatever is in the grail is capable of such a thing either.

"Alright, much as I hate the idea of holding back my full strength, I can get behind that order for now." Lancer seems to support your decision, though there's a small amount of grudging acceptance in his tone. Guess that Lancer would much prefer the opportunity to go all out against his foe, whoever that ends up being. But this really isn't the setting for it, you don't know just what kind of nasty plot could be awaiting you beneath the temple and despite everything you have planned, you could still very well be walking straight into a trap. "Working in a team is a pain in the-"

Bazett interrupts her Servant before he can finish his last sentence. "Lancer. There will be plenty of opportunities to use your full power later, right now though, Makiri-san is right. There's too much risk involved in you getting too involved in a fight here." Seems like Bazett fully approves of your planned focus. "I do hope that this Avenger is worth all this trouble though." Though there is a tiny hint of her having second thoughts about the attack in general. Not that you can really blame her.
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"The very fact that he's managed to hold out so long against this corrupting evil should tell you that he's more than worth the effort to rescue." Illya crosses her arms as she stares at Bazett. "If we hadn't been blindsided by our attacker, I don't think he would've even had difficulty against all these Servants hiding in the temple!" Once again, the cold relationship the Servant and Master had at face value seems to have been far more positive than you had assumed at first glance. Perhaps absence really does make the heart grow fonder. Or maybe only now Illya realizes just what it is she has lost. Regardless of her personal opinion on her Avenger, it's not like she would've wished him harm... at least not harm by anybody other than herself, she's not really had much time to develop a very good sense of morality just yet. It's really only due to the fact that Illya has been mostly defanged that you could get her to start on the path to becoming a relatively well-adjusted human being in the first place. Otherwise she almost certainly would've had you both killed by her Servant. Luckily she isn't really all too likely to relapse into that frame of mind even when you do get her Servant back for her.

"I see." Bazett doesn't seem to be all too convinced by Illya's confidence in Avenger, and seeing as you don't know anything about Avenger and his capabilities, you can't really back her up. All you can really say is that Avenger must have incredible willpower and mental fortitude to be able to resist the corrupting influence of an evil god like what Angra Mainyu is undergoing an apotheosis to. Well, that and the fact that the Einzbern seemed fairly confident that their Avenger would be capable of actually defeating Gilgamesh himself. Though you find that unlikely considering that the Einzbern don't exactly have a fantastic track record when it comes to the summoning of Servants that are supposed to be aces that will win them the war. Avenger might be incredibly powerful, but the idea that he will be able to defeat Gilgamesh still seems a little far fetched. Gilgamesh is the quintessential cheat Servant. A Servant who is so powerful that even when he is barely trying, he still far outclasses over ninety percent of Servants in existence. Even against heroes as powerful and well-known as Heracles, Gilgamesh didn't even have to try at all. Though that is in large part due to just how well-suited Gilgamesh is to defeating somebody like Heracles. Especially when Heracles is summoned as a near mindless Berserker.

"I'm fine with whatever plan you think is the best, Onii-chan." Sakura gives you her complete support, and with Sakura's support comes Rider's less enthusiastic support too. Of course, you don't expect Rider to be all too enthusiastic about anything related to actual combat. It's not like she relishes battle like Cu Chulainn does, and it's not like she has a personal stake in things like Saber does. Speaking of...
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"I will withdraw when I have determined the validity of my doppelgänger's assumed identity, and only then." Saber seems to be holding out some small hope that the Saber Alter at the temple isn't actually her at all but in fact is some magical copy of some variety. Though in truth, that's really only what Servants actually are. Magical copies of deceased heroes, though in Saber's case she's not dead at all. So where does that leave Saber Alter? It's a question that has so many potential answers that you can't actually decide on one of them. The only way to determine what Saber Alter actually is would be to get more information from the Servant herself, and God knows that isn't going to happen.

"That's fair." Is all you respond. You don't think it will take long for Saber to realize in battle that Saber Alter is truly her. Even if she holds some doubts now having only been shown images of her evil counterpart, actually crossing blades with her copy will definitely open her eyes fully to things, with no hope of denial possible. You can only hope that the resonance the two of them will suffer from merely striking each other's blade will cause them both to rethink the idea of fighting one another. Hopefully Saber won't be too stubborn to realize that. Both of them. Saber might have a strong desire to slay her evil counterpart, the battleground is too one-sided for her to actually be able to claim victory. Even if you do successfully manage to weaken the enemy Servants through the plan to inverse the defensive barrier, the unlimited supply of magical energy Saber Alter has available to her thanks to apparently being linked directly to the grail should still be able to level the playing field.

"Just don't over do it, OK?" Shirou tries to say some reassuring words to his Servant. It's funny, if he were the one facing off against his own morally inverted counterpart, who is currently staring at him from his position next to Rin with cold disapproval in his eyes, he wouldn't think anything of the sort. You'd call him a hypocrite, but honestly, how one might feel about the idea of facing themselves isn't something that anybody can actually empathize with unless they actually experience something like that themselves.
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"I understand, Shirou." Saber's response is short and quite conflicted. She probably wants nothing more than to kill her impostor, but she should understand that the aim of the mission you are all undergoing goes beyond how she might feel against one enemy in particular. You're potentially fighting for the sake of the entire world here, even if that has only taken the form of retrieving Illya's Servant from the clutches of the enemy so far. It's not something down because of personal feeling. Not entirely, at least. You know that if this apparently immensely powerful Avenger did fall to the corruption of the grail mud, that your chances of everyone getting out of the grail war alive would drastically be lowered, never mind the chances of everyone you care about getting the happy endings that you believe them to deserve.

"Sure. Archer doesn't have any complaints about that plan, and neither do I." Rin is the last Master to give her support, seems that she doesn't care that much about the approach, it's not like it's a needlessly risky plan, and attacking the temple before it's too late is a necessity. One sadly brought about by your own carelessness. You hadn't expected to lose Avenger like you did. You obviously have the unspoken support of Monica, who is watching the meeting quietly. You wonder what she might be thinking right now, you hope she hasn't been too offended by your breach of trust in kissing her. You hope that she understands that you wouldn't have done it unless you considered it absolutely necessary too. You would've preferred the experienced woman to have had more input on the discussion, but if there were any aspects of any of your plans that she absolutely disagreed with, you know that she would've definitely brought up her concerns with you. It's not like she's a shy woman, after all.
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With everything said and done, you feel as if the meeting has finally reached it's conclusion as does your Servant, who stands up and faces you. "Well then, Master. Shall we be off? I believe that we ought to prepare for this meeting with Assassin as best we can. If we are to succeed." Caster sounds fairly determined to make your success in this a reality. You're thankful that you've got such a dependable Servant that you can rely on. While Betty might be a powerhouse in some regards, the utility represented to you by Caster is undeniable. It would appear as if everyone else agrees with the opinion that the meeting has reached an ending. As nobody seems to have anything else they want to talk about that might add to the discussion.

>"Very well then, Caster. Let's go. Everyone else, I shall be back sometime before midnight. Do you think you can teleport us to my warehouse, Caster?"
>"Agreed. I'll drive us, we've got plenty of time, and I wouldn't want you to waste your magical energy. It might end up being important later. Expect us back before midnight."
>"While the meeting might be over now. There are a few things I need to take care of before we leave." (What?)
>Write-in...
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>>4495577
>"Very well then, Caster. Let's go. Everyone else, I shall be back sometime before midnight. Do you think you can teleport us to my warehouse, Caster?"
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>>4495582
Support
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>>4495577
Betty is going with us implicitly, right?

>"Agreed. I'll drive us, we've got plenty of time, and I wouldn't want you to waste your magical energy. It might end up being important later. Expect us back before midnight."
>"Make yourselves comfortable while you can. This will be a long night. And... thank you for being with me."
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>>4495590
>>4495577
support
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>>4495590
Yes.
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>>4495577
>>4495590
Supporting.
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>>4495590
support.
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>>4495590
Support
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>>4495590
+1 nice write-in
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Feels kinda tense as the HGW goes on, the write in is a nice reminder that (You) do genuinely care about everyone and are looking out for them even if (You) have a bit of an ego and are pretty secretive
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>>4495577
>>"Very well then, Caster. Let's go. Everyone else, I shall be back sometime before midnight. Do you think you can teleport us to my warehouse, Caster?"
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>>4495590
Support
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>>4495756
>even if (You) have a bit of an ego
Never felt like one. Maybe I'm too burnt out of all this explanation but to me (You) always play a little too nice of a person. The only ego (You) showed was a microbit of a jab when you're speaking with Rin.
It feels like there's no diversity in the vote is probably what I'm trying to say? Or that we're entering a generic nice protag territory?
Just my two cents, I'm probably going to be called coomfag for this post.
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>>4495862
>>4495756
>>4495590
Wait this was meant only for betty right? If so full support.
If this meant for everyone, then no support.
I just woke up, really can't discern things.
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>>4495590
Support
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>>4495862
Shinji leaks out whenever (You) get talked down to or underestimated, its apparent with Rin because she's the only one in our friend group that actually questions the dumb shit we try to pull
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>>4495889
Can you give some examples of this? You do know that being smug or giving a bit of a jab does not mean you're technically Shinji right?
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>>4495898
Getting annoyed at Lancer when he called you a know it all
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>>4495898
Laughing hysterically at Monica and about to rant uncontrollably before she slapped you
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>>4496064
Okay that part I don't actually understand why. Since when (You) feel any breakdown from all of this?
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"Agreed. I'll drive us, Caster. We have plenty of time right now so I don't feel like wasting your magical energy through teleportation would be wise. Especially when it will almost certainly be crucial that you have as much magical energy as possible for our later activities." You agree with Caster before turning to the rest of your allies once again. "Expect me and Caster back by midnight." It's a relatively conservative estimate of when you'll be back. If you aren't back by then, something will have probably gone wrong. Hopefully you won't need to explain to them just what you expect them to do should that situation come to pass. Though you highly doubt that you're going to end up needing the assistance at all, it's nice to know that should you require it, you have a lifeline. "So... Everyone, I advise you make yourselves comfortable while you can." You start leaving the room with Caster before you turn back one final time at your friends and allies sitting at the table. "This will be a long night. One last thing... I... want to thank you for being with me." With those last words of gratefulness, you finally vacate the room with Caster following closely behind.

You decide it would be for the best to converse with Caster through your mental link as you ascend the stairs. Not out of fear of your allies potentially overhearing you, you couldn't care less about that, but you don't actually know what sort of opponents you're up against. It's possible you could be facing an opponent capable of scrying just as Caster is. 'We'll just grab Betty, and then we'll be off, alright, Caster?' Betty is something of a trump card at this point. If she's awake, her familiars and herself are very powerful allies to have on your side. Even if it does take a somewhat considerable amount of your magical energy for her to create new familiars, you're confident that you have more than enough for her to do practically anything she wanted without collapsing from the strain. Not for the first time you find yourself thankful of your massive reservoir of magical energy as well as your training to make yourself more efficient with it, while you still aren't quite capable of unlocking the entirety of your body's magical potential, you've never really found yourself in a situation where you need it, just what you have right now is enough to do practically anything you want. There's a reason that almost all modern magi would kill for your magical ability.
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'If you insist, Master. Though are you sure it wouldn't be a better idea to leave her to rest for now? You may not have need of your other Servant until the time for the attack has come, and she does seem the sort to need to rest for an inordinate amount of time. Whatever her source of powers actually is, it seems to fatigue her in a way that... well, it's not a lack of physical or magical energy behind her lethargy.' Caster starts to muse on Betty's situation. 'I believe that it might be either an affliction of the mind... or one of the soul. Either way, if rest is what your original Servant believes is crucial for her condition, then she's likely telling the truth. Even I have very little idea as to just how her powers function.' It seems that Medea's concern for Betty is somewhat genuine, and not out of some selfish desire to prove herself the superior and more useful Servant. You didn't really expect such compassion for others she ought to care little for coming from Medea, but you suppose that the woman has always had something of a soft spot for children. Though judging from the disdain she seems to have for Illya's form, she must have little sympathy for those who would appear as children while hiding the truth behind themselves. It's not really like Illya has any choice on how she appears though... You suppose that she does at least have have the power to act her age... which she often doesn't.

You don't give Medea an answer straight away as you open the door to one of the many spare rooms in the house and find it empty. It's the first room you pass usually on your way to your own bedroom, and you normally wouldn't have bothered touching it at all. It's only because you forgot to actually assign Betty her own room that you are forced to do this. You think you spot Medea with a bored expression on her face as you look around your home until finally opening up the correct door. You only had to check around 11 bedrooms until you finally end up finding the small girl sleeping on a bed. Specifically, your bed. She's mostly under the covers and wearing a set of night clothing that she must've ended up buying earlier today with Illya. Black pajamas with purple cats printed on them. She's sleeping incredibly peacefully, and you almost feel bad about the idea of waking her up. What if Caster is right? What if it would be better to leave Betty to sleep until your plan actually calls for her? If all goes well, waking Betty up would be pointless anyway, wouldn't it?

>Wake Betty up anyway. She might be necessary for subduing Assassin.
>Leave Betty to sleep. The less likely she is to fall asleep for the main event, the better.
>Pick up the sleeping Betty and take her with you. That way you can wake her up if it is required.
>Write-in...
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>>4497033
>>Leave Betty to sleep. Ask Shirou to accompany you instead.
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>>4497033
>Pick up the sleeping Betty and take her with you. That way you can wake her up if it is required.
I think she'd prefer being included in this, considering past events. But I don't have it in my heart to wake her up for something she might not even be needed for.
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>>4497033
>Pick up the sleeping Betty and take her with you. That way you can wake her up if it is required.
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>>4497033
>>Leave Betty to sleep. The less likely she is to fall asleep for the main event, the better.
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>>4497033
Medea makes a good point desu... we can actually summon our Servant to us at will, no? Although I guess that needs a command spell use... presumably justified in case of emergency, but still...

I wouldn’t want Betty to wake up and feel sad that we left her behind, either. Even if she will likely see enough action tonight.

>Ruffle her hair and let her sleep.

If she actually stirs, tell her to rest up, there will be work to be done.
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>>4497064
Support
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>>4497033
>Pick up the sleeping Betty and take her with you. That way you can wake her up if it is required.
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>>4497093
Funny that you choose to support a post when it doesn't even do a write in.
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>>4497114
So?
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>>4497033
>Pick up the sleeping Betty and take her with you. That way you can wake her up if it is required.
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>>4497033
>Pick up the sleeping Betty and take her with you. That way you can wake her up if it is required.
Hug her close without realuzing it
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>>4497033
>Pick up the sleeping Betty and take her with you. That way you can wake her up if it is required.

Hug her really tightly, smell her hair, feel her body.
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>>4497292
You are a man of integrity, just like me.
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>>4497033
>Pick up the sleeping Betty and take her with you. That way you can wake her up if it is required.

Probably the best of both worlds here. We still take Betty but shes allowed to rest and is only awoken if either she chooses to or we wake up.
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>>4497033
>Leave Betty to sleep. The less likely she is to fall asleep for the main event, the better.
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>>4497033
>Leave Betty to sleep. The less likely she is to fall asleep for the main event, the better.
Will Shuten take offense to Betty's presence?
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>>4497638
Yes.
Meanwhile, leaving betty from our side means that she's useless as a servant for You.
You can argue with anything that she's not useless, but the moment you leave her in a huge important event like this, there's no going back.
A permanent stamp of useless will be engraved inside her heart forever.
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>>4498047
I think she would like it way less if she sleeps through us attacking the temple, especially if we fail at rescuing Avenger.
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>>4497033
>Pick up the sleeping Betty and take her with you. That way you can wake her up if it is required.
I am sure Betty will be hurt if she ever realize we decided to do something so dangerous without her.
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>>4498059
Her narcoleptic tendencies isn't because she doesn't have enough rest. Just because we let her sleep right now doesn't mean she won't be sleepy during temple operation.
Besides, the moment You know she's not a servant that can be battle-ready in case of emergency situations, she's already considered useless.
Whether she likes it or not, she is utterly useless.
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>>4498087
Just like you
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>>4498103
So?
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>>4497043
Support
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>>4497033
>Pick up the sleeping Betty and take her with you. That way you can wake her up if it is required.
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>>4497033
>Pick up the sleeping Betty and take her with you. That way you can wake her up if it is required.
See >>4497292
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>Leave Betty to sleep, instead take Shirou
>>4497043
>>4498107

>Leave Betty to sleep
>>4497081
>>4497088 (and ruffle her hair)
>>4497476
>>4497638

>Take Betty while she's sleeping
>>4497064
>>4497066
>>4497093
>>4497112
>>4497198
>>4497290
>>4497292
>>4497327
>>4498077
>>4498128
>>4498219

I may have miscounted slightly, but it seems to be something of a landslide regardless..
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You silently pick Betty up. 'I've decided to take her, but we won't wake her up unless we need her, alright? While she might need to rest, she'll probably feel terribly left out if we just went ahead and went on a mission together without her at all! What if she wakes up while we're gone? I don't want her feeling betrayed like that.' Really, dealing with Betty is going to be quite difficult if she harbors any sort of jealousy towards your second Servant. Though you still consider her an invaluable asset herself, she might see utility Medea provides you and your faction as something to be envious of, and you really don't want to have to deal with a little girl connected to some tremendously powerful god from beyond the stars feeling jealous. That's the sort of tantrum you really don't think you have a way to resolve without anybody getting harmed.

'Yes it's... probably for the best if we don't let her feel like she's been betrayed. I don't dislike the young girl... that innocence she seems to carry within her despite everything, it's... refreshing, I suppose.' Caster does seem to have something of a positive opinion on Betty, if only you could say the same about Betty towards Caster. The young girl does seem to be somewhat difficult to actually get to open up to anybody. If anything, you'd say that she seems... distrustful, especially of adults. While she seems to be fine around most people, you have noticed her occasionally giving a few of your... more older in appearance allies dirty looks. You wonder just how little of her past the girl actually does remember. After all, feigning amnesia is a far easier method of dealing with any difficult questions that might be raised by her past, whatever that might be.

'I thought you might protest more, but I'm glad you didn't.' You smile at Caster as you begin to leave the room to head downstairs towards your cars in the garage. You have such a varied selection of vehicles, it almost seems a waste to once again take the Bentley, but it would be a lie to say that this particular car hasn't become a favorite of yours. It's got just enough power and luxury that it's really the perfect car for what you need it for. You aren't some sort of speed demon obsessed with going as quickly as possible like Rider is, so a supercar isn't really something you have an incredible amount of enthusiasm for. While you of course enjoy going fast, Rider's own love of speed makes your enjoyment look like nothing but a pale imitation of true enjoyment.
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Loading Betty into the back seat and carefully pulling her seatbelt around her, you think that it's not like she'll at all need it in the cast of a crash considering how durable Servants are, still, putting her seatbelt on just feels like it's the right thing to do. Besides, even if she is likely to survive a car crash with ease, you'd really rather not have Betty catapulted out the front windscreen of the car as a result of a high-speed impact. It could hardly be pleasant, even for a Servant who wouldn't actually be harmed by something without mystery like the crashing of a vehicle at high speed.

You spend most of the trip to the warehouse just making smalltalk with Caster, just talking about irrelevant things mostly. You share a few recipes with Caster and she recounts you a few of the tales she has from her youth as an apprentice. Nothing that really stands out, but then again, neither of you are trying to have a conversation like that. It's clear that the two of you are both just trying to lighten up the mood between the two of you. After all, the both of you could be dead within the hour, and if that doesn't come to pass, then the likelihood of your deaths increases many-fold as a result of the strike on the temple. This meeting with Shuten is far far less risky towards you then charging the stronghold of half a dozen obviously hostile Servants. Even a sneak attack won't serve you too well for that long.

You continue the smalltalk with Caster even after you've picked up the small crate of expensive wines and spirits and loaded it into the car on the backseat. Next to Betty. With such precious and fragile cargo on board, you end up driving a little more carefully despite your excellent skill as a driver. You could've made it as a Formula 1 driver had you had the inclination to be one. As it is though, your everyday life is far more interesting and exciting than the life of something mundane like a race car driver. Even if the thrill of speed is one that many seem to be able to get addicted to, it's hardly anything impressive to a magus like yourself, you've danced with death merely as a result of your training with Touko, something like the danger (and thus, excitement) presented by high speed is mostly meaningless to you now. You don't tend to get scared easily, you might get jumpy sometimes, but it takes quite a lot to genuinely scare you. You can easily stare down certain death in most situations if you are required to, but... that's mostly because you tend to have a way out, and if there isn't a way out, well you normally just end up making one. There's not much point to fear, after all, it just helps you get killed quicker in a world like this.
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As you approach your destination with the alcohol still sitting on the back seat, next to the delicately sleeping Betty, you take a deep breath. This may end up being your worst decision ever, or it might end up paying off a tremendous amount, all you know is that if this does work, then you simply won't be able to lose. This particular version of Shuten is easily strong enough to dominate practically any Servant in your entire group, especially in a one vs one scenario. The only unknown to that would be Betty, and that's really only because you are unaware of the upper limits as to your first Servant's strength. She's certainly shown herself to be quite powerful so far, but just how much of the power of the being linked with her that she's able to access remains an unknown to you.

You calm yourself and begin to speak. "We're almost there, Caster. Remember, I want you to..."

>"...magically cloak yourself and remain by my side. Ensure that you are completely undetectable. Presence Concealment is overrated."
>"...observe from a distance while obscuring yourself, make sure that you aren't seen. I'll need your aid if things go sour."
>"...stay in the car with Betty and observe me with your magic. If things start to go wrong, teleport me out of there."
>"...enchant me with as much power enhancing magecraft as you are able. At least this way if things go poorly I'll be able to put up a good fight."
>"write-in..."
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Just now catchin up with the story. Really appreciate you, QM. This is a fun ride
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>>4499151
Enchant with a kiss
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>>4499151
>>"...stay in the car with Betty and observe me with your magic. If things start to go wrong, teleport me out of there."
Both to make sure Betty doesn't get nabbed while we're busy and also because I am fairly certain Shuten will somehow notice her if she directly watches/interferes.
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>>4499151
>"...stay in the car with Betty and observe me with your magic. If things start to go wrong, teleport me out of there."
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>>4499151
>"I want you to..."
>"Take care of Betty while I'm gone. Make sure she get the warmth she needs okay? I love you", then proceed to kiss Medea before leaving.

Caster is Your wife and Betty is Your daughter at this point. You don't need to say anything and I'm sure caster will know what to do if we got in trouble.
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>>4499184
+1
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>>4499184
+1
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>>4499151
>"...stay in the car with Betty and observe me with your magic. If things start to go wrong, teleport me out of there."
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>>4499151
>"...stay in the car with Betty and observe me with your magic. If things start to go wrong, teleport me out of there."
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>>4499151
>"...stay in the car with Betty and observe me with your magic. If things start to go wrong, teleport me out of there."
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>>4499151
>>"...stay in the car with Betty and observe me with your magic. If things start to go wrong, teleport me out of there."
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>>4499151

>stay in the car with Betty and observe the situation. Don’t lose awareness of your own surroundings though, if it’s a trap, you might be in danger as well.
>if I lose consciousness or get gravely hurt or send you a message that “party’s over”, I’ll need you to pull me out and we need to withdraw.
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>>4499151
>>"...stay in the car with Betty and observe me with your magic. If things start to go wrong, teleport me out of there."
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>>4499151
>"...stay in the car with Betty and observe me with your magic. If things start to go wrong, teleport me out of there."
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>>4499167
Just make sure not to pay too much attention to the autistic playerbase.
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>>4499458
The way you brought that up when everything is already calmed down feels like you actually like the shitstorm caused by those autistic playerbase.
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>>4499151
>>"...stay in the car with Betty and observe me with your magic. If things start to go wrong, teleport me out of there."
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>>4499151
>"...stay in the car with Betty and observe me with your magic. If things start to go wrong, teleport me out of there."
She's extraction for when Shuten starts to be a fuck
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>>4499151
>"...observe from a distance while obscuring yourself, make sure that you aren't seen. I'll need your aid if things go sour."
>"...enchant me with as much power enhancing magecraft as you are able. At least this way if things go poorly I'll be able to put up a good fight."
Should give a bit of time for Caster to react if things go south
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Why not just Fragarach Saber Alter?
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>>4499704
Bazett's orbs are limited and more importantly I think this is something Saber wants to deal with herself. She's been pretty vocal about wanting to put down her evil clone herself.
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"...stay in the car with Betty and observe me with your magic. If things start to go wrong, teleport me out of there." It's a simple order, and not one that Caster should have any difficulty with following. It suits both her skillset and her personality perfectly. Casters simply isn't the sort of person who would wish to find themselves on the front lines, for all her bluster and apparent appearance of a Witch, deep down she's still a princess, and the instincts of a princess are what she'll revert to if she ever finds herself placed under too much pressure. That is to say, she'll panic and lose her cool, and of course, losing your cool is about the worst possible thing you can do when you're a spellcaster who has to rely on their magic and nothing else. Medea's total lack of any true fighting experience is the only reason that she lost a fight to Rin when they fought in the Unlimited Blade Works route, well, that and the fact that Medea was simply toying with her opponent, which was honestly the only reason that Rin got to actually shift that fight to one with a favorable outcome to her. Under normal circumstances, Rin Tohsaka vs Medea of Colchis? Well, it could hardly be called a fight. In fact, Medea could end Rin with a single word, you don't doubt that for a moment. It's just a matter of both pride and Medea's tendency to hold back against the young and inexperienced.

"Very well, Master. I'll do as you ask but... do try not to antagonize Assassin, if you could. While I'm confident in my abilities... my reaction time isn't the greatest. I... may not be able to get you out of there in time if Assassin does end up turning hostile." There's genuine concern for you in Caster's voice, and you freely admit that therein lies the danger of attempting to recruit a hostile Servant like Shuten. Even with one of the greatest spellcasters that ever lived assisting an escape if it is required, if you can't survive Shuten turning hostile long enough for her to use her magic to get you out of there, then all her magical expertise will be for nothing. Hopefully, that scenario doesn't actually end up occurring, Shuten if she does turn hostile is thankfully not the sort of person to go for an instant kill. No, she's far more sadistic than that. You can't exactly tell what Shuten might try to do to you if she decides she would prefer you dead, but you know that instantly killing you is an immensely unlikely thing for the Oni to decide to do. Shuten is thankfully predictable in her sadism.
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You frown for just a moment as you leave the vehicle, grabbing the box of alcohol from the back seat "Don't worry Caster, I'm not going to get killed. I give you my word". As you walk away from the car and towards the alleyway, you scan through the contents of the box to check for damage and only end up finding the high quality wines and spirits that you are basically going to attempt to bribe Shuten with. Some might think that a Servant who you can simply buy the allegiance of with alcoholic beverages may not be a good choice for a Servant... and honestly? Those people would be completely correct. Shuten is the sort of Servant who would simply end up toying with their Master for the duration of the grail war if she was summoned by an average magus. Her toying would likely end up culminating in her growing bored of her Master and killing them. Shuten has no interest in the common or the average, and she would quickly grow tired of being treated like a tool or a weapon by somebody she could crush beneath her heel with no more ease than she might crush an ant.

You don't really know how this meeting is going to end up going, but all that matters is that you survive it. Getting Shuten as an ally would be tremendously useful, but it's not exactly... essential. While the powerful Oni may very well end up completely tipping the scales, you aren't going to lose sleep over not being able to recruit her. If she refuses to come along with you, then you'll just write her off as a lost cause. You'll determine who her Master is, slay them, and then relentlessly dog her with your Servants for all the time it will take for her to fade into nothingness, and that's just a way to deal with Shuten that doesn't require actually getting into a serious battle with her. While you don't want that outcome at all, you're resolved that you will kill Shuten if she refuses to be of aid. If she's of no use to you, then she's just another monster prowling the streets of Fuyuki that you will be all too happy to have put down. There is the worry of her accomplice though. By the description given and the events that have taken place, it's very likely that Shuten isn't the only Oni servant to have been summoned. The most likely bet would be Ibaraki, but you can't discount Tomoe or some other Oni either. Seeing as they are all somewhat related to flames or heat, it will be difficult to determine the truth behind your second adversary here without actually getting a good look at them for yourself. With any luck though, you'll be alone with the Oni for tonight, as dangerous as that might sound.
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You step into the alleyway, your heart already beating faster from anticipation. For all you know, this is all a ploy and Shuten will simply kill you immediately without a word. But... sure enough, you find yourself staring at Shuten Douji, who seems to have built herself a fire out of tree trunks... Has she been felling trees around town to build those? You suppose she's got the strength for it, but wouldn't it just be simpler to buy coal? Perhaps she just prefers log fires or found herself unable to procure a different source of fuel. "Oh my, you actually showed up!" Shuten doesn't bother looking at you as you begin to walk closer to her. "What a surprise! After the last time, I imagined the next time we would be meeting would be when I finally decided to get rid of you and your friends." The light glints dangerously off of the crimson tips of the long horns protruding from above Shuten's forehead. "I see you even brought the alcohol, just like you promised... Well, what are you waiting for, take a seat!" The demon gestures for you to sit at the fire, and you realize that it would be terribly rude of you to refuse her offer now.

>"Very well." (Formal approach.)
>"I would be happy to." (Friendly approach.)
>"Of course I showed up, how could I break a promise to such a beautiful girl?" (Flirty approach.)
>Silently take a seat and say nothing else. (Cold approach.)
>"I'd prefer to stand." (Defiant approach.)
>Write-in...
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>>4500581
>"Of course I showed up, how could I break a promise to such a beautiful girl?"
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>>4500581
>"I would be happy to." (Friendly approach.)
this is Shuten we're talking about, she's an alcoholic hedonist and has a thing for based Golden Boi so being formal or cold is the wrong move
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>>4500581
>>"Of course I showed up, how could I break a promise to such a beautiful girl?" (Flirty approach.)
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>>4500581
>>"Very well." (Formal approach.)
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>>4500581
>>"I would be happy to." (Friendly approach.)
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>>4500581
>"Of course I showed up, how could I break a promise to such a beautiful girl?" (Flirty approach.)
Time for oni booty.
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>>4500581
>"Of course I showed up, how could I break a promise to such a beautiful girl?" (Flirty approach.)
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>>4500581
>"I'd prefer to stand." (Defiant approach.)
This is Shuten. Please for the love of God, trying to flirt with her right now will get you killed.
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Also kinda unrelated but having to finish Lostbelt 2 to start Oniland event is hell.
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>>4500681
have fun in Olympus
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>>4500581
Flirty approach
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>>4500581
>"Of course I showed up, how could I break a promise to such a beautiful girl?" (Flirty approach.)
It's charm is Shinji's strong point, even if we all know full well there is only one man for Shuten, flattery will get our boy where he needs to be.
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Can samefag coomerfag fucking fuck off for once?
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>>4500581
>"I would be happy to." (Friendly approach.)
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>>4500581
>"I would be happy to." (Friendly approach.)
Guys don't get killed.
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>>4500581
>>"I would be happy to." (Friendly approach.)
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Not sure why some people believe flirting with her will get us killed. Last time we met her she responded positively to our flirting.
We don't need to become her boifriend, but we do need to catch her interest. Charisma is our strong point and now is time to use it.
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>>4500767
The line's too corny for me, and she's the double masked oni. She's not like the innocent childish ibaraki. You need to be genuine about your intention. That's why Kintoki and FGO protag managed to catch her interest.

And our encounter with her the first time is a bit out of character for her in my opinion, but I'll give some benefit of the doubt that her master is responsible for that.
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>>4500581
>"Of course I showed up, how could I break a promise to such a beautiful girl?" (Flirty approach.)
Charm and flattery worked the first time, let's keep it up.
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>>4500791
I mean we aren't lying when we say she is a beautiful girl.
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>>4500797
We aren't.
But I prefer to compliment her when we already have some mutual agreement on things. In this state it sounds like we're sucking up to her. Which we kinda did and Oni's like to be sucked up to.
But it make us look like a whimp. Something that Shuten doesn't really fond of.
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>>4500791
Are we not genuine though? She is beautiful and we are telling her exactly that.
Shinji has little reason to feel antagonistic towards Shuten. Choosing Defiant approach or Cold approach is the dishonest move in this situation.
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>>4500799
I think it depends on how we react to her teasing us back. If we stick to just sucking up to her she'll get bored, but if we manage to banter back it should work.
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>>4500800
She's beautiful but we weren't coming for her because "we don't want to break promise with beautiful girl" that's the dishonest part.
>>4500803
Oh she will react back, we just never knew if what she said after is genuine or not.
We can think "I think she's being honest because bla bla bla" it doesn't. No.
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>>4500810
We are already gambling with our life in this meeting so there is no point second guessing every move we make. Shuten is dangerous and mostly unpredictable, so just stick with what already worked with her is my thinking.
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>>4500811
I just want to convey to her that we want a mutual agreement and not a one sided oni contract with us giving her alcohol as an offering.
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>>4500817
I agree with you, this gift is more a peace offering to open the discussion between us. Which is why I said we shouldn't just suck up to her and have to show some back bone.
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>>4500819
Well this is only a greeting, I hope it wouldn't really affect how we negotiate.
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>>4500791
>You need to be genuine about your intention. That's why Kintoki and FGO protag managed to catch her interest.

"Ah, that golden-haired boy is always a fun one whenever I look at him... When I talk about eyes, this is what I truly mean. He's a waste as Raikou's cow... Aah, although he's your possession at the moment. That boy's bones are very special, so kindly take this with a grain of salt."

"But I wonder, when? Master, I'll eat up eeeverything you are, and savor it all, you hear?"

As you can tell, half her interest in Kintoki is due to how much she likes Kintoki's bones and how much she wants to eat him.
Same with FGO MC but to a lesser extent.
Being liked by Shuten is the same as being eaten by Shuten. Theres no real difference for her, she can like you and want to eat you all at the same time.
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>>4500824
That's what she wants you to think.
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>>4500822
Well we agree on this.
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>>4500581
>"Of course I showed up, how could I break a promise to such a beautiful girl?" (Flirty approach.)
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I want to marry shuten and have her children.
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>>4500825
>That's what she wants you to think.
Shes not hiding or pretending whatsoever anon.
Anon, shes an hedonist alcoholic oni with alien senses of values.
Literally play FGO a bit and read her ascension lines or her interlude. Shes chaotic evil oni and nothing more + nothing less.
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>>4500831
Yea fuck off, do you think I don't have her because I didn't pull or something?
Are you humble bragging right now?
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>>4500833
No I'm pointing out you're over analyzing her behavior.
Sometimes the curtains are just blue anon.
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>>4500837
But don't you remember her during the tower?
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>>4500581
>"Of course I showed up, how could I break a promise to such a beautiful girl?" (Flirty approach.)
We did spike the drinks with aphrodisiac, right? Something to take advantage of Conceptual Weakness?
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>>4501025
we're not trying to rape her anon
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>>4500581
>>"I would be happy to." (Friendly approach.)
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Since its Shirou day we should do something nice for our best bro when we get back
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>>4501318
Do shiroubros on this thread seriously want Shinji to do the gay route, is that why they always pick the platonic choices when it comes to potential love interest? Shirou is a nice guy, but the Shirou bros seem a little too dedicated to the guy.
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>>4501359
Yeah it fucking sucks. Bunch of fags in here.
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>>4501359
I'm a Shiroubro but no fucking way do i want to pick the gay route, I just wanna support my bro in his romantic endeavors with Saber and dreams of killing Muslim terrorists in Syria
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Flirty
>>4500584
>>4500613
>>4500649
>>4500666
>>4500695
>>4500703
>>4500794
>>4500828
>>4501025

Friendly
>>4500592
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>>4500723
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>>4500729
>>4501278

Formal
>>4500619

>Defiant
>>4500674

You know, the only thing that surprises me about this outcome is that it wasn't a complete landslide.
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>>4501427
Oh wow, flirty actually won?
I've been under the impression we were getting out voted all day. But I've also haven't bothered doing a solid count of things.
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>>4501435
We're not all fags here
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>>4501359
My goal: Betty first, any new waifu second, and old waifu third. I always go for the coomer option, but I'm no samefag and I also give a fuck about Shirou being with Saber. I don't get the point of samefags and NTRfags. I see no point in lying about what I want and sabotaging others for the hell of it. That's not what a proper based individual would do.
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You smirk as you approach the roaring fire and with a nonchalant tone, you begin your response to the dangerous demon now sitting only a few feet away from you. "Of course I showed up, how could I break a promise to such a beautiful girl?" You exude as much confidence as you are able to. The knowledge that she could kill you at any moment she likes is knowledge that is really quite bothersome, but in truth, it's not really all too different from how you felt around Touko at the very start of your lessons. While you might be able to survive a battle against an average Servant if you were to have an advantage by dictating the terms of the fight, Shuten is an opponent on a whole different level to an average Servant. In truth, you aren't even sure how much effect that the nearly perfected killing art of the Snake Style would have on Shuten. Not only is her Battle Continuation out of this world, but thanks to her not actually being a human at all, she may not even have the same vital points to strike! After all, her legend speaks of her living even after being decapitated entirely in order to continue her savage attack on the man... or in this world, you suppose the woman who dealt the fatal wound to her. According to the legend, she would've succeeded too, if Minamoto no Raikō wasn't wearing more than one helmet thanks to some handy divine instructions.

"You really are a brave one, aren't you? To have fulfilled a promise he made where a lesser man would have simply chosen to flee and never look back." Shuten stares into your eyes as she speaks with you, and you can almost feel the intoxicating effects of her personal skill trying to weigh down your mind and body with the magical drunkenness that Shuten is capable of forcing upon any she wishes to. Thankfully, it looks like your inherent resistance to magic thanks to being a magus is able to hold off the current assault, though it doesn't look like Shuten is actually trying to get you too drunk anyway. "So, what was it that made you come back to me? Were you honor-bound by giving me your word? Or were you perhaps enthralled by my beauty? Or is there another reason behind this second meeting? Whatever it is, I do hope that it isn't a boring reason."

"Do my reasons really matter right now, Assassin? I came here to share some alcohol with you. Would you not agree that to discuss things while sober is far less... entertaining?" You try to bring your full charm to the front against this enthralling demon, but you know that at the end of the day, it's most likely pointless to try to win her over with a war of words alone.
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"Whatever gave you the impression that I was sober, boy?" There's a smug tone in Shuten's voice as she addresses you rather dismissively, but there's a tone of playfulness in her dismissal of you, if she really just playing around right now? You... probably should've expected her to be drunk already, in hindsight. She's probably always in some varying state of drunkenness, after all. "You may of course present this alcohol to me that you seem to be so proud of though, I wish to... sample the best the world has to offer in this era. I wish to know how it compares to the alcohol of my own era's skill at brewing alcohol." Shuten dispenses with the niceties and gets down to something serious. Or, well, something she considers to be serious, at least. "Sooner rather than later." Her eyes narrow for just a moment as a playful request becomes a forceful command as you hesitate for a few moments.

"Of course, of course. Seeing as you're so eager, let's get right into it, shall we?" The first bottle you pull from the box of alcohol is a 50 year barrel aged whiskey and two small glasses, you pour both yourself and Shuten a glass each, and hand it to the Oni, who snatches the glass from your hand and greedily gulps down the offered alcohol, showing almost no reaction to the expensive alcohol and then before you even realize she had moved, has the rest of the bottle in her hand. She proceeds to down the entire bottle of vintage whiskey in the time it takes you to finish your third sip of your own glass. You're trying to pace your own consumption of alcohol. While you might be immune to the magical intoxication of Shuten's magic, you can't really say the same about mundane alcohol.

"Not bad! It seems that for what your alcohol lacks in strength, it makes up for in taste." Shuten praises the alcohol, but doesn't seem impressed at all by the strength of the brew. That's... a real concern. That whiskey was one of the strongest drinks you've got with you! She drank the entire bottle at least, so that gives you hope that getting her too drunk to respond properly to her surroundings may not truly be impossible. You just have to hope that eventually, the alcohol truly kicks in and she gets drunk enough to actually have Caster safely use Rule Breaker on her.
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But you quickly realize the error in your thought process. As Shuten continues to down bottle after bottle of the expensive alcohol, praising only the taste and being continually disappointed by the lack of strength. Soon, you're down to only three bottles left. Within minutes this is cut down to two, and finally, you find yourself with only a single bottle of alcohol left. You'd like to say you were saving the best for last, but honestly, you don't think the extra ten years on this last bottle of whiskey is really going to make much of a difference. "So, that's it, is it? Your last bottle... I will give you praise for bringing all this alcohol to me, but alcohol alone isn't nearly enough to satisfy me, especially not weak alcohol like this. You know, honestly? I feel more sober now than I did forty minutes ago." Weak? How could she possibly call it weak after she drank so much powerful alcohol? It seems impossible that she even managed to drink that much liquid with that tiny body of hers, never mind so much powerful alcohol! Damn it! You were a fool to think the physiology of an Oni like Shuten would allow such alcohol to even have any real effect on her. It's actually entirely possible that due to their inherent lack of mystery, the alcohol's already limited effect on an Oni like Shuten was reduced even further!

You look to the bottle of whiskey in your hands. Your very last hope. Though as it currently is, it's worthless to you. Shuten may as well be drinking tapwater for all that this expensive assortment of alcoholic beverages has managed to affect her. While she does seem to enjoy the taste of the alcohol, that's obviously not enough for her. You're going to need to act fast if you're going to survive this.

>Just give Shuten the last bottle. Whatever happens next is up to Shuten.
>Give Caster the go-ahead to get you the hell out of here.
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...poison.
>>...alcohol.
>>...intoxication.
>>...divinity.
>Write-in...
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>>4501586
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>...intoxication.
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>>4501586
I'm genuinely at a loss about what to do, poison will absolutely be effective against her but then we'd be forced to go all in, either kill her or put her under contract, if not, she'd be our enemy now, every other truth might not work on her
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I think we just need to make it harder.
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>>4501586
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>...divinity
As she said, she very well might be "intoxicated" already.
Might as well try something wild and see where it gets us.
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>>4501586
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...divinity.
I honestly think this is a terrible idea but I'm morbidly curious as to why QM would make this an option.
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Last time we used our thruth magic with a vague concept we fucking died.
I am not even sure how would concept of divinity would relate to alcohol.
We don't need to get her completely drunk we just need to make sure our gift was satisfactory.
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>>4501586
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...poison.
Let's go all in. What is the worst that could happen?
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>>4501586
>>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...intoxication.
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>>4501586
>>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...divinity
I too, am curious as what crazy stuff may happen with this. What happens after imbuing with poison for conceptual weakness or intoxication is easy to imagine, but I can't even fathom what will happen with divinity.
>"but alcohol alone isn't nearly enough to satisfy me"
Damn, we should have brought our severed foot for an appetizer. She had a fascination with Kintoki with his special bones, maybe she'll be interested with our blood/mana with our weird ass circuits. We could potentially cut another limb off right now, but we kinda need the mana for the midnight raid.
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>>4501586
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...divinity.
DIVINE SHUTEN, CONSEQUENCES BE DAMNED!
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>>4501586
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>...intoxication.
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>>4501586
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...divinity.
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>>4501586
Imbue with intoxication
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>>4501586
I'm going to play reverse psychology here.
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...divinity
All of you who
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Guys we have no clue what divinity does. Let us not get killed.
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>>4501586
>>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>>...divinity.
Fuck it, i'm going the divine way
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>>4501720
divinity is super effective against a demon, an Oni.
She probably going to be in so much after drinking it
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>>4501586
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>...divinity.
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can we imbued it with a sprinkle of dionysus the god of wine buffs? if she still thinks it is not a strong enough wine then I don't know what else.
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>>4501725
Since when was divinity strong against demons in Type Moon?

"Such is the trilemma (三すくみ, sansukumi) of Man, Demon (悪魔, akuma), and Hero.
Man can obtain no victory against Monstrosities (魔, ma); Monstrosities fall before Heroes; and Heroes are subject to the regulation (粛正, shukusei, "correction / administration; enforcement of discipline"; alternatively, "purging of undesirable elements") of Man."

Its humans>heroes>demons>humans triangle.
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>>4501586
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...divinity.
Theres two ways this can go, QM punishes our bad decision with something bad or QM lets something interesting happen because of our bad decision. I'm putting my eggs in something interesting happening.
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>>4501770
Giving divinity to wine. I just feel like it isn’t going to result in anything. We aren’t modifying Shute just the wine so what is it just gonna taste divine?
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>>4501765
I think you're forgetting the first rule of type moon.
Pic related.
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>>4501586
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...divinity.
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>>4501586
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...divinity.
LET'S FUCKING GO
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Darn, should have brought Buckfast instead of the highfalutin stuff.

>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>Write-in...
Caffeine!
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>>4501586
>>4501802
Aw heck, might as well go all the way make that Cocaine instead for the full blast.
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>>4501586
>>...divinity.


Drag mystery back into the equation.
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>>4501586
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...divinity
All in
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>>4501783
You should've used this pic anon.
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>>4501830
Saved.
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>>4501830
Not even edited enough. F/SF has a dog as Enkidu's master
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>>4501851
not even just summoning people either since Voyager is a space probe
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What's the logic behind making GOD WHISKY?
Because Gods > Demons?
Shuten is a demigod.
We're getting eaten now.
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>>4501830
>>4501851
Also if you aren't some dense protagonist-kun/chan with some form of a Saber form/clone you might as well drop out while you are ahead. Chances are that protagonist with the Saber will win the grail.
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>>4501950
I believe the logic is to infuse the whiskey with divine to make it fit for a deity, and elevate it above the mortal stuff. Make it strong enough for the oni.

Sounds plausible I think
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>>4501984
That was dumb and doesn't even make any sense.
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>>4501988
Why? If you wanna convince anyone you're gonna have to actually explain yourself since apparently we're all retarded and you know something most of us don't.
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>>4501994
what? fate or type moon in general is always retarded and they always contradict each other every time. The difference with your post is that you just didn't use a pretentious term to make it somehow more complex like what fate usually did.
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>You were a fool to think the physiology of an Oni like Shuten would allow such alcohol to even have any real effect on her.

Well, shit.
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>>4502003
Holy based.
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>>4502034
Look up Shuten vore, that is probably what is about to happen with us. Honestly trying to get Shuten to join us was a terrible idea, have two caster servants is enough. By the time we would have fought Shuten we could have probably given Saber Avalon and buffed Saber with Medea and our truth magic so that we had a fighting chance against her. Heck Betty could probably take Shuten because she is a wild card and QM seems to be setting her up for something big.
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>>4502056
We have 2 casters?
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>>4502056
>shuten vore
That's my fetish
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>>4502057
Betty is a "Caster" and Medea.
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>>4502067
She's a foreigner
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>>4502070
Hence the “caster”.
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Alright, there's not going to be an update today thanks to a storm that has already knocked my power out a couple times.

However, tomorrow I shall return to my previous update schedule.

Feel free to continue discussing though.
As a warning, over half of the choices lead to dead ends.
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>>4502121
>over half of the choices lead to dead ends.
Bros divine is gonna get us killed. Whiten is already drunk and alcohol is gonna do nothing.
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>>4502121
Understandable, have a nice day.
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>>4502134
if Divine kills us then we're poisoning the shit out of that drink
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>>4502264
Maybe try to imbue it with truth of grail mud?
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>>4502269
nah, poison is a sure fire way of actually effecting her, her conceptual weakness will fuck her up hardcore
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>>4502264
No way. If "Divine" kills us we should pick obviously correct option which is "Intoxication".
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>>4502285
Why would intoxication be correct. She is already intoxicated.
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>>4501586
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>Divinity

I want to see what happens here. Either It’ll be a dead end or somehow we make some fucking amazing alcohol
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>Anon explains that in type moon its heros>demons>humans>heros
>People still think gods beat demons
Please do not pick Divinity option if you think it will be super effective or some such nonsense. Instead pick it to see what stupid, bad or interesting things happen due to our bad choices.
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>>4502590
Okay 1 post retarded poster, keep crying
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>>4502342
It's not about getting her drunk. It's about her being finding our gift satisfactory. We just need to give her harder stuff.
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>>4502749
And what makes you think that our truth imbued intoxication will make it harder for her?
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>>4502753
What do You mean?
If You were to imbue a bottle of alcohol with the very concept of intoxication would You not expect that alcohol to become harder?
People say that she is already intoxicated but there are different levels of intoxication.
Getting her more drunk than she is now would undoubtedly make her more amiable.
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>>4502762
But our concept of intoxication and type moon universe's concept of intoxication is not that different after all. I'd argue that because they're fiction, their intoxication is actually stronger than the real thing.
Are we even sure that Shuten just wants a stronger alcohol, or there's some other intention in her mind?
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>>4502776
She says all she wants is stronger alcohol but she would be bored if all we did was make alcohol stronger. Divinity will at least be interesting and I want to see what happens but I believe that poison is the correct answer.
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>>4502776
We can't really be sure. She is an Oni after all.
She seems satisfied with the quality of alcohol but it's just not hitting her hard enough.
So making it more intoxicating would be a quick fix for our miscalculation.
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>>4502727
Its almost like some people have dynamic ISPs.
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You lot do realize poison was how she dies? And that it's essentially her ultimate weakness? And she already IS intoxicated.

>>4501586
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...poison.

This is the only viable option. We paralyze her with poison and have Medea easily swoop in and steal her.
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>>4503034
I don't want to poison her though?
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This is your last shot. If you don't pull something out of the bag here, you're going to lose the opportunity to recruit Shuten, worse, you might even end up being attacked by her if you attempt to flee now. No, you're going to need to use your magecraft in order to resolve this. You're going to need to manipulate the truth of this bottle of whiskey. But how?

"Come on then, that's your last bottle, right?" Shuten gives you a deadly sweet smile. "What are you waiting for? After you've run out, the real fun can begin." You can feel your heart beginning to beat faster. You know that she won't hesitate to kill you if you fail here, and for just a moment you consider reaching out to Caster to have her teleport you away from here.

Your mind races with ideas as to what you should do until suddenly, a rather ingenious plan comes to you. What if you imbued the whiskey with the essence of divinity? That would surely have an effect on this oni, right? Even she couldn't just shrug off the effects of an alcohol imbued with the concept of divinity, right? "J-just hold on a second now, Shuten. There's still one more bottle, and I promise you that this bottle will be unlike any alcohol that you've ever tasted before!" You regain your confidence as you prepare to put your last gambit into motion.

"Oho?" Shuten seems to be amused by your boastful comment about the quality of this last bottle. Sure, you don't expect the natural quality of the whiskey as it was originally created would be enough to nearly satisfy this small devilish woman, but with the ability to change truth on your side, you could never lose! You draw forth as much magical energy as you are able to and begin to infuse the concept of divinity into the bottle of alcohol. Of course, divinity is something incredibly difficult for you to actually comprehend, considering your lack of any real experience with the concept. But somehow, it seems that you can just about manage to draw the concept into the bottle of whiskey, though it's an agonizing process as your body and your magic circuits endure a screaming pain for all ten seconds until the process is finally complete.

When it is complete though, the liquid inside the bottle seems to shine very slightly, and you're very satisfied with the result. Even if the change may just be a temporary one, this bottle is as divine as it could possibly be. The liquid within it would be able to intoxicate even a Divine Spirit! But that's when you start to notice that something is wrong. A human body was never meant to be able to create and channel the power of divinity, and you can feel something... odd. Not only do you appear to have somehow managed to use every last drop of magical energy in your body in creating such divine alcohol, but your body... still seems to be burning. It's faint and you can ignore it for now at least, but this is definitely something that you're going to need to get checked out by Caster.
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In the blink of an eye, the bottle that was once in your hand is gone. Snatched away by the curious Oni who is clearly wondering just what it is that you did that caused you to use such a massive amount of magical energy. "So, this was your trump card, hmm? Some sort of spell? There's something... oddly familiar about this drink..." Almost compulsively, Shuten tears the seal off of the bottle and greedily drinks all of it. Not a single drop of the divine alcohol is left when she's finished, and the glass is thrown away to shatter on the ground. Mere moments after she finishes chugging the bottle, Shuten's eyes widen with shock, before she begins laughing. At the start, it's a gleeful laugh of happiness, but it soon turns into something far, far more sinister than that, it's at that point that you can feel the power radiating off of her. It's beginning to grow far greater than it was before, and it doesn't seem like she's even trying!

"Shuten, what... what are you doing?" Your body is low on magical energy now, and the fatigue has begun to spread to every other part of your body along with the burning. Your curiosity gets the better of you though. Instead of simply asking Caster for a teleport away from the oni, you want to know what she's actually doing. It's odd, but you can almost hear a... dripping sound? It's not raining, so what's going on?

"Oh, the fool speaks?" The voice that responds to you doesn't sound like Shuten's voice. Well, that's not quite true. It sounds like Shuten, but it's almost as if her voice is overlaid with itself hundreds of times, creating a truly ominous effect. "It's not what I'm doing... It's what you did, Shinji Makiri." What on earth is she talking about? You'd get yourself in a fighting posture, but you seem to have become completely paralyzed by something! Fear? Power? What the hell is going on?! "I can no longer be called Shuten-Dōji. Nor can I be called a Heroic Spirit. Thanks to you, I have become something... more." Oh no. You... may have made a mistake. You had no idea that Truth could be used to do such a thing but... "I have become a true Divine Spirit now." There it is! Damn it! Damn it! Damn it! This is bad, you need to get away!

'Caster! We need to get out! Now! You call out to your Servant, and receive no response. No. It's almost as if... there's no connection at all? You look down at your hand to check the condition of your command spells. only to find your entire lower arm missing, the stump dripping away without pain.
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"Surprised, my sacrifice?" The newly formed goddess gives you a smirk containing a terrible selfish evil. "You shall be the first. While this change may be a temporary one, I desire it to be made... permanent." You finally manage to snap out of the involuntary paralysis your body is undergoind and take a step backwards from Shuten, you need to run! Caster must be watching this, why the hell isn't she doing anything!? "With you, it's possible for me to even defy the will of the planet itself and remain as I am..." The goddess licks her lips. "indefinitely." You topple to the floor and look down and your legs, everything below your kneecap has melted into a puddle, and now, looking up, you can finally see that cause of the dripping you could hear earlier. It's not the rain at all. No, the buildings themselves have begun to melt down. "Goodbye, first sacrifice." You've created a terrible calamity, while the original Shuten wasn't nearly this evil, the corrupting power of divinity seems to have had a truly terrible impact on her mind, the already callous and murderous hedonist that was Shuten-Dōji has been replaced by a goddess of the same qualities and certainly, none of your allies are going to be able to survive this disaster. The small body of the newly created goddess begins to grow taller and taller now, laughing as she does. Your last thoughts before the poisonous aura of her presence alone melts your head into a liquid are of how you hope that the King of Heroes gives this damn goddess her just desserts. Then, your everything is given to the goddess of poison.

BAD END.
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If you would like to beat the game yourself,
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You awaken to the sound of slow clapping. Multiple sets of hands join in the chorus, and you see Taiga, Illya, and even Shinji mocking you with tired expressions on each of their faces. You look around to find that you aren't quite... alone, in having come to the Dojo this time. Sitting next to you, with an expression as confused as can be, is Shirou Emiya.

"W-what the hell is going on?" Shirou is... understandably confused. After all, he probably has no idea what the hell just killed him. You also feel excruciatingly guilty for getting him killed through your own poorly thought through action, but there's nothing you can do about it now. While you may not remember the Tiger Dojo upon leaving it and will always remain in a state of uncertainty about death in the real world. You can recall your prior deaths while you're here.

You turn to Shirou and smirk. "First time?" Your best friend turns to you with a tremendously lost expression, and just as you're about to explain things to Shirou, you feel the impact of two forceful blows to your chest, and you look up to see a very annoyed Taiga. Her annoyance quickly fades and turns into something more along the lines of annoyed acceptance.

"Sorry about this, Shirou." Taiga has a relatively disappointed expression as she looks at another of her students. "Sorry to say this, Shirou. But there's absolutely nothing you can do to prevent yourself from dying here this time." She then turns back to look at you. "Your death here was entirely caused by this screw-up."

"H-hey!?" You don't respond well to the sudden put-down. But a well placed strike to the lower leg sends you tumbling to the floor again.

Illya then practically skips her way closer to you, and smiles "As much as I hate to agree with her, she's right." Your heart can't take much more of this abuse. "But! We all make mistakes sometimes, Shinji! It's just that your mistake sort of killed..." Illya trails off as she doesn't seem to want to reveal the actual number

"Over a million people." the other Shinji has a really horribly irritating grin on his face as he announces the extent of your mistake. "Yeah, you really made a mess of things this time." He's enjoying this. He's enjoying this far too much. What a god damn asshole.

Taiga slams the point of her wooden sword against the floor to draw attention back to herself "Right, well. I don't think you need to be told, but your mistake here was imbuing the alcohol with divinity. Not only did the process permanently alter your body and cause you to become a target of Alaya itself, but the result of the process gave way for the apotheosis of a goddess. While Assassin herself may not have wished to become a goddess, the goddess that she ended up becoming would have done anything in order to sustain her own existence."
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"Right!" Illya butts in. "If you want to get Assassin to help you, you're going to need to either exploit her weakness or just overpower her! But without the bulk of your forces assisting you or perhaps a miracle, the second option is completely impossible!" Illya does her hardest to tell you what you're going to need to do, and you think you understand now. Divinity didn't turn out to be a weakness at all!

"Right, well I think we're about done here. Both of you, here are your stamps!" Taiga quickly hands out the stamps. "Please don't disappoint us all again!" There's a smile on Taiga's face as you are booted out of the Tiger Dojo, for whatever reason though, it looks like Shirou is staying for his own session. Could Shirou have died before then? No, if he died, wouldn't you end up in the Tiger Dojo as well? Wait...

>Just give Shuten the last bottle. Whatever happens next is up to Shuten.
>Give Caster the go-ahead to get you the hell out of here.
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...poison.
>>...alcohol.
>>...intoxication.
>>...divinity.
>Write-in...
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>>4503113
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>...intoxication

Turns out picking obviously bad options leads to bad ends.
Who could have expected that?
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>>4503113
I'm standing my point and going with this>>4501745
Also, this confirmed that we just need to spike an imbued truth buff to our allies for OP power up?
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>>4503113
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>Write-in...
Kintoki, imbue it with the essence of Kintoki the dude who killed Shuten in her legend.
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>>4503113
>"Right!" Illya butts in. "If you want to get Assassin to help you, you're going to need to either exploit her weakness or just overpower her! But without the bulk of your forces assisting you or perhaps a miracle, the second option is completely impossible!" Illya does her hardest to tell you what you're going to need to do, and you think you understand now. Divinity didn't turn out to be a weakness at all!
So, poison?
Intoxication would be more in line with original plan, but would it work if she says she's already drunk?
Alcohol I reckon would just turn whiskey into ethanol...

I genuinely thought divine reinforcement of the booze would've worked. Oh well. But I guess the point about Alaya would have fucked us regardless.
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>>4503122
>>4503125
Support both but leaning more to>>4503125
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>>4503113
>...poison.
It's the most reliable way to incapacitate her.
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>>4503125
Please explain to me what the actual fuck is "the essence of Kintoki" supposed to be.
Is it his soul? Is it his blood?
And what effect do you expect it to have on Shuten? Make her nostalgic before she kills us?
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>>4503113
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...poison.
Should have expected birth of a goddess, Shuten already had some divinity in her already. Oh well, time to capitalize on conceptual weaknesses.
I still kinda want to see a comedy scene where we feed the oni with body parts we keep cutting off of ourself, but that's not going to happen.
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>>4503132
I'm guessing it's his semen
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Cool all that time wasted for nothing. Dumb fags.
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>>4503142
How is it gonna help us to get Shuten on our side tho?
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>>4503113
Ok. That was epic.
But let's get real for a second.
WhatIsAQM said half of these are dead ends.
The ones that I think are ok to pick are, getting Caster to get Shinji's ass out, or Imbuing the bottle with either Poison or Intoxication.
Getting the fuck out would make this whole thing to be a huge waste of time, so that's out.
Poison will get the job done, but will probably result in the Oni gal being very crass with us in the long term. And if we are gonna end up antagonizing her by poisoning her, then we might as well just call this whole thing off.
Intoxication will also get the job done, but will probably leave her in a better and more compromising mood. Even if she's drunk or thinks she's drunk now, you can always get more wasted, and showing her that level of good time will totally get Shinji in her good book.

So I'mma go with
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>...intoxication.
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>>4503146
Shut the fuck up nigger. We now know that our imbued divinity alcohol can make a servant ascend to a goddess that can wiped out humanity.
That's a lot of fucking information you blind narrow minded brainfarted retard.
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>>4503125
+1
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>>4503151
Fuck you 1 post id
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>>4503125
+1
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>>4503154
It's now 2 post faggot.
>>4503125
+1
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>>4503125
Kintoki wasn't even the one who killed Shuten.
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>>4503162
He's the catalyst though.
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>>4503163
Ok.
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>>4503147
by making her preganante and make an offspring of half oni half heroes that she can't helped but be a mother I like to fuck.
Jokes aside, when you give a divinity attribute, but part of divinity was it?
Same case with Kintoki.
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>>4503113
Great Bad End
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...poison.
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>>4503170
What do you mean "Same case with Kintoki"?
What effect do you expect it to have on Shuten?
You realize you are choosing Dead End option for the second time right?
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>>4503188
>What effect do you expect it to have on Shuten?
I don't know. But I know that Shuten have strong feelings for Kintoki regardless if that feeling is bad or good.
>You realize you are choosing Dead End option for the second time right?
No? how do you so sure that it'll result in a dead end?
Besides even if it does ended up in a dead end, it will give us a glimpse of what happened if we use our truth to give an imbued essence of someone.
Do I miss something here? Is the QM going to die that he needed to finish the arc soon?
What's going on?
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>>4503193
>Shuten have strong feelings for Kintoki regardless if that feeling is bad or good.
How is that helpfull to us in any way?

>how do you so sure that it'll result in a dead end?
It is obvious for anyone with a functional brain. I am 100% that it will lead to our death.

>Do I miss something here? Is the QM going to die that he needed to finish the arc soon?
Why waste updates on a certain dead ends?
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>>4503200
>How is that helpfull to us in any way?
How do you know it won't be helpful?
>It is obvious for anyone with a functional brain. I am 100% that it will lead to our death.
baseless assumption then? do your functional brain also think that a mere single magus can't beat gilgamesh?
Welcome to type moon.

>Why waste updates on a certain dead ends?
If you think our earlier dead ends that gives away what our imbued divinity drink could do to a servant is a waste, then I convinced that you just turning blind eye and deny any reasoning in the first place.
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>>4503204
Abusing Tiger Dojo to gather meta knowledge by exploratory deaths is only good for getting QM to stop making them.
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>>4503207
You're underestimating QM then.
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>>4503204
>How do you know it won't be helpful?
The same way I know that if I touch fire I will get a boo boo. It may surprise you but most people don't need to commit an action in order to know consequences of that action.

>baseless assumption then?
Can you breathe underwater? Don't make assumptions. Go and try it out.
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>>4503211
>Go and try it out.
Thanks, we're finally reaching an agreement.
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>>4503113
>>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>>...poison.
I got what I wanted to see. Truth magic is absurdly strong and we should abuse this fact during the raid.
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>>4503170
you're arguing quite fervently for an option you didn't even pick.
thanks anon?
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>>4503225
I didn't do it for you dumbass.
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>>4503113
>...poison
am mobilefag, but samefags are clearly samefagging the Kintoki shit vote.
Ignore the vote for that QM.
It shouldn't even work anyway.
Also why not the concept of obedience?
Or subservience?
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>>4503228
What is a write in?
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>>4503232
>What is a write in?
write in something that I like, if I don't like it then it's not a write in.
If that doesn't work, accuse it as being a samefagging post.
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>>4503228
The Kintoki vote is all anons with multiple posts mr 1 post anon.
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>>4503113
Intoxication or impregnation.
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>>4503232
QM told us we couldn't single out people as concepts once already you retard.
>>4503238
As if that means anything, samefag.
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>>4503247
>QM told us we couldn't single out people as concepts once already you retard.
Can you point where QM mention this and did QM give the reason as to why?
Is it because QM said you can't and shouldn't?
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>>4503247
Don't waste your time trying to explain obvious things to these retards.
Just vote anon.
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Forgot to add this one

>>4503247
>As if that means anything, samefag.
Eeeeh, the one post voters was not accountable druing our kissy kiss with dear Monica. You want to change that now?
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>>4503249
Yes.
Read the quest Speed Reading faggot.
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>>4503263
Ah I see so it's non existent.
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>>4503265
I'm not spoonfeeding you you literal subhuman filth retard.
Read.
The.
Quest.
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>>4503249
>>4503265
I have found it just for you retard http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/4382803/#p4385521
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>>4503269
Well thanks, that wasn't so hard wasn't it?
You could've use this reason than dilly dallying it in the first place.
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>>4503113
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>...poison.
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>>4503272
You could have read the fucking quest. Then you wouldn't have to look like an idiot.
Now change your retarded vote to something useful.
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>>4503278
I read it, I just forgot.
Well I'm still keeping my vote with dionysus. Maybe not with the dionysus as the god of wine itself, more of the wine he created? Eh I don't know, no one voted it anyway.
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>>4503113
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...poison.
Whelp, time to actually do the thing that would work on her
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>>4503113
>>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>>...poison.
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>>4503317
>Whelp, time to actually do the thing that would work on her
Powerball whiskey and coke off her tits?
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>>4503330
I wish
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Why is a two post accusing me of being a samefag? If anything it looks like the poison vote is samefagged, it has way more 2 posts and 1 post votes, and anons are way saltier about it.
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Intresting.
So we can brew something which would reinforce some innate quality (Divinity in her case here)?
That's rather big bag of opportunities.
>>4503113
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...poison.

Write-in about making Shuten gobble bottle of conceptual semen is hilarious thought.
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>>4503333
You have supported every retarded vote in this thread. If anything your votes should be discarded by default.
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>>4503338
This
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>>4503125
+1
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>>4503333
It always happens when the vote they didn't like get the most support.
First they said 1 post ID should not be accountable because they're samefaging.
Now, they're doing the opposite of what they're saying, heck they just tells you your vote is not worth it and shouldn't be counted.
They're not even hiding it at this point.

I wonder what kind of excuse they will say when the next vote didn't go their way.
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Whoops, messed up my tripcode.

>>4503333
It doesn't really matter anyway, the "Kintoki" write-in is invalid anyway as my post linked here says.
>>4503269
Not only are you incapable of conceptualizing a person, but in this case, it's a person you've never actually met face to face.

>>4503337
You should all remember that the changes brought about by the manipulation of truth are very temporary and take up a massive portion of your magical energy.
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>>4503338
Wasn't there a discussion in the QTG about this? About how people liked /qst/ being anonymous since knuckle dragging retards wouldn't be able to go through your vote history and use that against you? I'm sorry what I choose to support aren't up to your standards. Please forgive me.
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>>4503349
I was thinking more in line of making Medusa into Gorgon, reinforcing dragon part of Saber or giving Betty an energy drink.
Might be interesting to clutch something with a temporary breakthrough.
Maybe even give ourselves inhuman qualities?
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>>4503351
You have supported:
1) Kissing Monica agains her will
2) Sending Shirou to "tame" Shuten
3) Molesting Betty in her sleep
4) Retarded Kintoki vote
Don't give me bullshit about standarts. You are clearly just shitposting.
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>>4503333
>If anything it looks like the poison vote is samefagged, it has way more 2 posts and 1 post votes
The Kintoki vote only has 2 IDs that have voted on a previous update.
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>>4503355
So first you're using his vote history to shit on him
and then you're judging someone if they could vote or not based on what they choosed before?
My my, isn't what you're doing right now too egoistic?
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>>4503356
I'm very sorry I don't vote on every update. Please forgive me, I will vote in every update now to make sure you guys don't know I'm a samefag. My 7 posts are clearly not enough to show you my validity and I apologize for that. Clearly people not caring enough about what approach we take with Shuten in one of the most inconsequential votes in the quest really says something about their validity.

>>4503355
I'm sorry they aren't up to your standards.
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>>4503359
*Make sure you guys know I'm not a samefag.

Fixing that before a retard comes after me for miswording it.
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>>4503358
Calling out shitposters and samefags is a correct thing to do.
But don't worry I know you are not one of them. The way you write is quite distinctive, so I can recognize you even when your ID changes.
You vote for retarded shit not out of malice but out of stupidity.
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>>4503113
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...poison.

You lot are fucking stupid. We were JUST told to exploit her weakness, and you're trying to intoxicate the ONI that is KNOWN for being a drunkard piece of shit? Rather than poisoning her, which is the thing that actually did her in in legend? Good fucking god.

We poison the bitch, it paralyzes her, and then Caster swoops in to sever the link between her and presumably Zouken. Afterwards? We get Caster and Betty to immobilize her and put various seals on her IF she doesnt join us.
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>>4503359
Nobody even called you a samefag before this post >>4503333
So why are getting so upset?
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>>4503365
Oh shut the fuck up, I'm out of hotel tomorrow so my ID should change after then.
I only say all of those things because calling other people vote out is dumb. You either lose or win the vote.
If you want your vote to win then do a convincing argument for your chosen vote instead of doing "no you don't count" "this is a samefag" and all of those shits.
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>>4503368
we can also just use a command seal on her. Rin used an all encompassing order on Archer and that forced him to listen to her or else he faces penalties on his parameters and we're not only a better Magus than Rin, Shuten also has no magic resistance and we'd have 9 command seals if we bend her to our will
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>>4503113
Can't properly decide between
>Poison, which should be the "safe" option
and
>Intoxication, which would be more *true* to the original plan, and less dickish to the man eating monster.

But I guess I'll bite the bullet and go with
>Poison
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>"Right!" Illya butts in. "If you want to get Assassin to help you, you're going to need to either exploit her weakness or just overpower her!
Ilya literally tells us to vote poison.
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>>4503113
>>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>>...poison.
that was cool I guess
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>>4503373
You realise we had two cases of samefagging in this thread alone? QM even had to discard part of the votes.
Also you worldview is pretty pathetic. Calling out bullshit is a natural and healthy thing to do.
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This is off-topic to the current vote because I don't care about the Shuten detour. But is it possible for Shirou to replicate Excalibur proto and give it to Saber? That version of Excalibur when only being half unsealed is on par with Enuma Elish without Avalon and at its full power it could probably overtaken even Ea. This could give us a huge advantage in the coming fights against the lovecraftian horrors and Dead Apostle Ancestors we will face later if paired with Avalon.
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>>4503450
Is it calling out a bullshit if you're being a hypocrite though?
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>>4503463
In what way am I being a hypocrite?
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>>4503466
I don't know maybe it isn't you, but it's obvious that the complain about samefagging only appeared when the vote isn't going the ways some people want.
Remember 1 post ID rules?
And what if I say because of that your vote shouldn't be counted?
Or maybe even if you do use dynamic IP and you linked your previous post to proved it, I'll trace your every vote that you have chosen before and tell you that you choose the wrong choice everytime and you're just shitposting.
Like that?
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>>4503478
OK 1 post id
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>>4503478
The people saying if you make the wrong choices you shouldn’t vote are clearly retarded. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t call out samefags.
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>>4503478
Go ahead. Here are my previous votes in this thread:
>>4503114
>>4501603
>>4500613
>>4497081
>>4495735
>>4493967
>>4493736
>>4492369
>>4491069
>>4490770
>>4489685
>>4488310
>>4486095
>>4485827
>>4484556
>>4483405
>>4482845
>>4480270
Enjoy your tracing. Do tell me how am I a hypocrite tho.
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>>4503509
Why you linking me in your spam? I'm not you.
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>>4503505
Wow, what a pathetic worldview you got there. I'm just calling out your bullshit with my post, didn't you say that it's a healthy thing to do?
Also yeah, that's pretty shitty choice you got there. Don't you have anything creative to contribute?
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>>4503460
Saber's Excalibur is retconned to have seals, also its the strongest beam sword
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>>4503501
I'm not saying we should. But they've been using that excuse recently.
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>>4503509
i'm not you retard
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>>4503509
You're not me you stinky shitposter.
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>>4503512
You still didn't tell me how am I a hypocrite retard.
What bullshit are you calling out?
You just repeat phrases you heard from someone smarter than you are. How embarrassing.
>>4503515
Who are "they"? Are you involved in multiple heated discussions with your imaginary friends?
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>>4503113
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>...intoxication
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>>4503526
It's not my fault that you can't read. I say "what if".
Read it again, or then again maybe don't. The fact that you can't comprehend something so simple and still saying "someone smarter than you are" already tells me everything.
How embarrassing.
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>>4503549
>I say "what if".
You said that about counting votes. Do you have dementia on top of your retardation?
It's quite amusing when a guy who can't answer a single simple question tries to act smart. Did you use the word "hypocrite" by accident without knowing it's meaning?
It's okay. If you admit it now I promise not to laugh at you.
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>>4503561
>You said that about counting votes.
Yep, you didn't even try reading post. Or maybe you did and still doesn't get what it meant which is even worse.
It's sad that an actual down autist have better intelligence than you. Did you get dropped as a baby or something?
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>>4503572
>an actual down autist
You shouldn't insult yourself like that. This is just getting sad.
I have some bussiness to attend to so I won't be answering your posts for awhile. You should go play with kids your age.
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>>4503581
>running away after losing an argument
yeah seeing you like is really getting sad.
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>>4503111
>>4503113
So, just to filter out the tard-off going on right now, what do you guys think about the implication that Shirou is getting Dojo's as well?
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>>4503629
I wonder if Shirou dies and we don't do we both go to the Dojo? Also does he remember the times when we died but he didn't?
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>>4503629
>>4503641
I think you're being a samefagging retard at this point. You always ignored a write in vote about Shirou and now you suddenly cares about him?
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>>4503629
The good variant is that he has plot armour of his own and is getting schooled for something he didn't do correctly.

The bad variant is that while we were gone dealing with the demon something bad is happening to our allies we left at home.
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>>4501586
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...poison.
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>>4503641
>I wonder if Shirou dies and we don't do we both go to the Dojo?

No, what this implies is that we dont have to worry about Shirou dying. If he dies, he resets as well. Thats the implication here.
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>>4503644
I think we killed him with the whole "Goddess Shuten" thing. That's what Taiga implies.

>>4503641
>>4503653
It seems like unless we die from the same thing/at the same time, we don't go together. Which means, it's unknown how many times he's reset on us as well.
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>>4503653
i wonder if there's anything more grand to this and Shirou has a grand role to play in the "Isekai'd as Shinji" Route that we still don't know yet. I kinda wanna test it out to see if just him dying means everything gets reset but i don't want my best bro dying just to experiment on this pseudo time loop
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I just had realized something, Rin still has her pendant fully charged up since she never used it to heal Shirou since Lancer was never stolen by Kirei. We should keep this in mind since it had enough magic to fully restore Shirou from near-death.
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>>4503821
it can straight up kill a servant given the right circumstances
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Intoxication:
>>4503114
>>4503148
>>4503531

Kintoki:
>>4503125
>>4503130
>>4503152
>>4503155
>>4503161 (1 vote post id)
>>4503345

Poison:
>>4503131
>>4503176 (1 vote post id)
>>4503222
>>4503228 (1 vote post id)
>>4503277
>>4503317
>>4503329
>>4503368 (1 vote post id)
>>4503376
>>4503416


Pretty sure poison won even discounting Poison samefags.
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>>4503113
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...poison.
>>
Are there any consequences for bad ends? I've spent a few nights catching up to the current point in the quest, so apologies if this is common knowledge. Also:

>>4503113
>Imbue the last bottle of whiskey with a new truth. The truth of...
>>...poison.
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>>4503899
There will be severe consequences for getting multiple dead ends on the same vote.
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>>4503908
i kinda wanna know now but i'm not retarded so i'm gonna skip on this
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>>4503113
>Just give Shuten the last bottle. Whatever happens next is up to Shuten.

I’d rather we not fucking dead end ourselves.....again. But spoilers by the way the votes are going, that is exactly whats going to happen.
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>>4503916
What makes you think poison will dead end us?
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>>4503930
That's why I voted impregnation
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>>4503930
its literally in her lore that she got downed by poisoned liquor, servants have conceptual weaknesses, Enkidu is weak to disease, Achilles is weak on his Achilles heel and Medb is weak to cheese
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>>4503113
>>4503899
Changing my post to this>>4503934
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>>4503916
Worst case scenario we somehow kill Shuten, best case scenario we steal her from Zouken.
I don't see how poisoning her will Dead End us.
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>>4503991
Not getting her as our servant is a dead end for some of the anons here.
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>>4503998
who gives a shit, she's a hedonistic cannibal, she's the first that gets to die
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>>4503998
>Not getting her as our servant is a dead end for some of the anons here.
>quitting quest over one character
>the absolute state of lolifag coomers
joking aside, dw anon Shinji's charismatic as fuck, we've got this in the bag.
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>>4503867
I'm >>4503368 having a second thought.
I'm changing to impregnation.
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>>4504001
Me, I'm giving the shit. Don't kill my oni waifu
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>>4504004
Shut the fuck up coomer anon. Poison already won even discounting the samefags, neither me or the QM will bother to recount for you just because you want to coom and meme about impregnation.
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>>4503934
Support
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>>4503989
>>4504004
>trying to get other people's votes changed.
You're kinda being an asshole, anon.
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>>4504008
If the chance pops up, I'm absolutely sacrificing her to save or kill several people
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She got battle continuation a or something she'll be fiiiine.
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>>4503934
+1
Pumping my galloping chum buckets.
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Why the actual fuck is this the one quest where retard coomers are samefagging and messing with the fucking vote
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>>4504015
I don't think it is the poison that kills her in her myth anyways.
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>>4503991
>shuten died
>her berserker oni friend goes berserk
>entire town burns
>fuyuki fire episode 2
No, keep her alive.
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>>4504017
You've clearly not been in any of the other popular quests.
Reynolds had the rape vote write in samefagged cus of coomers, Sworn to Valour has had samefag waifu wars since Tracker Jean.

Its just that Fate playerbase is much more autistically obvious about it which is about as par for a Fate quest.
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>>4504019
it weakened the shit out of her for decapitation, we don't need to kill her, we need to rule break her and at most, use a command seal to make her listen to us, 1 is enough to bend her to our will, i think we should use a 2nd to make her not eat people in front of all our friends
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>>4504017
okay you asked for a downvote! I'll give you downvote!
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>>4503867
tard
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>>4504026
Are you having a mental episode?
Are you OK?
Do you need to take a break?
Have you considered taking a rest?
Do you need to see a doctor?
Are you perhaps injured?
Do you seek medical attention?

Talk to me anon, what's going on?
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Been lurking a while, just want to say the TM fanbase is the most toxic and neurotic I've seen in quite some time.

That is all.
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>>4504035
You OK?
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>>4504040
Isn't that what I'm asking?
Wasn't that what I was talking about?
Don't you believe that I was asking that question already?
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>>4504035
This picture is swaying me bros.
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>>4504035
I'm >>4501359 and think you're being a faglord for not focusing to my bro shirou.
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>>4504035
I'm >>4501359 and I think you're being a faglord for not giving me more time to bond non homosexually with Emiya Shirou.
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>>4504048
Let's take Rider route.
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Truly, running a Fate quest is a cursed existence.
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>>4504059
It's just that one samefaggot.
can you like ban him or something?
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>>4504059
I feel like you would've understood what kinda of scum and villainy you'd be attracting if you followed the /a/ threads
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>>4504059
I take some of the blame, back when we were still rolling for time skips, I advertised this quest on /a/ and /fgo/ like 5-6 times. Must've attracted some retards.
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This is it. Your last shot at actually managing to do something of any value before your plan completely falls apart. You're going to need to use your greatest magecraft. The magecraft that is restricted only to you. The ability to manipulate the truth of an object. Now, it's clear that alcohol alone isn't going to defeat Shuten, that much is obvious. Not only is the alcohol that she partakes in normally far more powerful than your own offerings, you don't even think that it's actually possible to create an alcohol strong enough to incapacitate Shuten at this point. No, not only is her tolerance to the damn stuff immensely high, but her body's natural metabolism ought to be able to burn through any alcohol she drinks really quite rapidly.

So, if attempting to reinforce or change the concepts of the alcohol itself won't serve you, then there's something else that you can try instead. It's a risk in that it could lead to the death of either you or Shuten, neither of which are favorable outcomes in this scenario, the former being far far less desirable than the latter though. It's clear to you that this is the only possible path you can take that has a chance of ending well for you now though. You're going to imbue this bottle of whiskey with the concept of poison itself. Hopefully, the conceptual poison will be powerful enough to incapacitate a Servant without killing them, but you don't know just what sort of strength the poison created from Truth will have. It may not even be enough to phase this damn smug oni!

You open your magic circuits, as many as you can without bringing harm to yourself, and begin to pour your energy through you and into the bottle of alcohol, using it to shape a new truth about the object within your hand. The process is smooth and goes just like how it normally does in practice. No sudden alarming shifts in your magical energy and Shuten, while apparently interested in just what it is you're up to, she doesn't seem so interested that she'd do something ridiculous like snatch away the last bottle. In fact, you don't even know where you got the notion that she'd do something like that anyway! Despite her threatening words, Shuten has been very patient with you for the entire duration of this meeting, so it's not like she'd break out of that passive attitude now just to snatch something away from you.
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Instead, the small woman eyes you and then the bottle you hold before smirking. "Oho? Is that your last gambit then? A bottle of poison?" You flinch backwards in surprise as Shuten effortlessly discerns what it is you just did. "Don't be so surprised that I know what you're up to. Do you think I'm stupid or something? A magus uses a huge amount of magical energy on the last bottle which then proceeds to begin to emit a toxic aroma? Why you didn't just prepare the poison beforehand is beyond me though... It's almost funny, having somebody mix the poison they intend to use on you before your very eyes." You remain silent, prepared to give the single word you need to Caster the moment you feel like things have taken a turn that you won't be able to recover from. If you were prone to less risky decisions, you would've already fled the scene with Caster's help, but you wouldn't even be here if you weren't capable of dealing with a little bit of risk, so you hold out just a little bit longer. "How about we turn this into a game? I'll drink your poison, and if it has no effect on me, you'll submit to me peacefully. How does that sound?" Shuten licks her lips as she awaits your response. There's no way that you're going to be able to be genuine in your answer to the Oni, but the very fact that she's willing to drink the poison at all proves her complete lack of any sort of strategic thinking. She may think of all of this as some sort of game that she's playing, but is that really any sort of an excuse for being absolutely dreadful at the game she's trying to play?

Shuten's eyes are peering deep into your own, and you know that you're going to have to make a decision now. Do you attempt to play along with this little game of hers, or do you flee now? You know that if you stay and your poison fails to have the intended effect, Caster or no, Shuten will immediately become an enemy. But if you succeed, then Shuten shall belong to you and you alone, you'll strip away the contract binding her to her current Master and force her into service as your own Servant. You'll be the most powerful Master ever if you can just get Shuten on your side. Of course, you could always flee with but a single word to your ever reliant Caster Servant. You've barely had Medea for any time at all, and already you're starting to feel like you can rely on her for practically anything you might need. High Speed Divine Words are basically magical cheat codes, but then again you suppose you aren't really one to talk when it comes to cheating at magic, huh?

>Agree to Shuten's game.
>Propose new terms for the game (What?)
>Have Caster teleport you away. There's no point in continuing now.
>Just throw the bottle of poison at Shuten instead. Absorption through the skin should also work, right?
>Write-in...
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>>4504089
>>Agree to Shuten's game.
Barring outside interference, I'm pretty sure our poison should work considering our previously attained information. Unless someone wants to convince me otherwise.
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>>4504089
>Agree to Shuten's game.
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>>4504089
>Propose new terms for the game (What?)
Have sex and whoever cooms first lose just like my ero japanese book
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>>4504089
>Agree to Shuten's game.
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>>4504089
>Agree to Shuten's game.
So in her mythos, Shuten knew her drink was poisoned but drank it anyway cause she can't turn down alcohol or something like that. The same thing is happening now more or less. I doubt she doesn't feel some effect and at worst, it gives us enough time to teleport out of there, at best, it gives us ample time to Rule Break her
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>>4504089
>>Agree to Shuten's game.
I want to ask her stuff, like who was the berserker that she came with yesterday and try guessing if it was ibaraki and see her reaction.
Is it a bad idea for idle chattering during moment like this?
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>>4504112
No the actual worst case scenario is her conceptual weakness is bad enough she dies (Battle continuation only lets them keep fighting, it doesnt heal her).
But otherwise yeah, theres no downsides to choosing to agree with her game and it fits Shuten's hedonistic personality that she plays along.

Most likely result is Zouken command spells her out of it but if so than we just got rid of one of Zouken's command spells.

There is nothing but upsides to agreeing no matter what happens outside the slim possibility we cause the lolifag coomers to ragequit the quest which isn't even that much of a loss.
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>>4504089
hey QM, I wanna ask something, are there BAD ENDs like Mind of Steel where our choice just put us on a dark path?
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>>4504116
i doubt it'd be that bad, the poison in her mythos didn't kill her, just knocked her out long enough to get decapitated by Raikou, even then her severed head pounced on her
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>>4504089
>>Agree to Shuten's game.
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>>4504089
>Agree to Shuten's game.
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>>4504089
>Agree to Shuten's game.
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>>4504089
>Agree to Shuten's game.
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>>4504095
Support
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>>4504199
4chan fucking up, I'm >>4504112
Changing my vote
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>>4504089
>>Agree to Shuten's game.
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>>4504089
>Just throw the bottle of poison at Shuten instead. Absorption through the skin should also work, right?
Fuck Oni
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>>4504089
>Agree to Shuten's game.
OK lets go
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>>4504089
>Agree to Shuten's game.
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>>4504088
>No sudden alarming shifts in your magical energy and Shuten, while apparently interested in just what it is you're up to, she doesn't seem so interested that she'd do something ridiculous like snatch away the last bottle. In fact, you don't even know where you got the notion that she'd do something like that anyway! Despite her threatening words, Shuten has been very patient with you for the entire duration of this meeting, so it's not like she'd break out of that passive attitude now just to snatch something away from you.
You keep bringing up Shuten taking something from Shinji's hands. Just what are you planning, QM?
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>>4504341
is a hint that we should do mana transfer with shuten ASAP.
support >>4504095
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>>4504341
Might be deja vu from the recent taiga dojo visit.

Truth autism might allow mc to retain dojo memories given enough exposures as its a concept he would be aware of via meta knowledge of the fate/ universe.

Could also just be AQM referring to the last death.
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>>4504360
>>4504360
>>4504360

New thread.



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