>>4420645

The real MVP ^

>>4420645
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>>4391541

I got you bro.

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>Why are you like this?
Anonymous contributes only when he pleases and at no other time.

>>4420645
>What kind of quest would you like to see more often?

A non-railroaded quest.

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>>4420216
>>4420216
>>4420216
WTF Isekai Zero Quest #2 is live! Three isakei'd friends and a frail vampire girl travel innawoods and have no clue what life is anymore.

I'm going to run a quest where the MC is a warforged that awakes up in the ruins of the civilization that created him. Does that sound too clique? What sort of adventures would you like to see center around this idea?

>>4420657
Which do you consider railroaded?

>>4420664
> Frail vampire

Wut.

>>4420652
He's either a shit Jannie, or a samefag troll shit Jannie.

Like.

Is there a rule about Jannies not explaining the shit they do? Is he just gonna post from alternate IPs to hide from criticism?

>>4420674
A quest with rails.

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>>4420667
Do it! Sounds great.
>>4420676
She's a glass cannon. Instead of the sun setting her on fire she has weak bones and some other stuff.

>>4420657
I for one think railroads are good. Cascadia Railroads is a nice quest

>>4420678
>Is there a rule about Jannies not explaining the shit they do?
https://archive.today/2020.03.09-135230/https://www.4chan.org/janitorapp
>Accountable: All moderation actions are logged and reviewed.
Hmmmm...

>>4420645
>What kind of quest would you like to see more often?
Honestly I want a quest with a bigger focus of slice of life but still have a BIG PLOT somewhere

So the players have made a certain build up of choices that are going to result in their kinda close female companion getting Casca'd very badly. And possibly others. Like to the second power of Casca'd, and entirely through write-ins to boot.

Assuming they're not prepared and they keep making similar choices, I'm not really sure what to do. It's not like I hate them but a bad ending seems most likely given their current direction. What do you do when players persistently ignore warnings?

I always try to avoid rails but when the players take every opportunity to construct a bridge across an uncrossable chasm of assumptions by haphazardly plunking beams down I'm tempted to interrupt them with a sudden mentor figure or something. To an extent, just refitting the world wholesale to make certain choices more valid in retrospect feels like a betrayal, especially when they've already accepted them as unfavorable.

Whether that's good or bad I can't really tell, I haven't been a GM before outside one or two other quests. Thoughts?

>>4420703
Look, if you keep warning and punishing and straight up saying "keep doing this and you're gonna be punished HARD" then its the player's fault. Being railroaded into misfortune is shit but being the cause of that misfortune will only have yourself to blame

>>4420703
>What do you do when players persistently ignore warnings?
You give them appropriate consequences to their actions, if you don't they'll never learn.

>>4420706
It's basically like the D&D equivalent of the DM saying "Are you SURE you want to do that? multiple times and the players ignoring their warnings, the players are basically asking to be dunked on at that point.

>>4420703
>>4420703
Triumphs and consequences should be earned. It seems like they've earned to get shit on. As long as you think it makes logical sense in the world you've built so far, go for it. Just keep in mind you will probably get some saltiness, but that's part of the fun and drama of questing so don't let it deter you.

Those are the kind of moments questing is built on imo

>>4420709
exactly, if you keep trying to play with a lighter even after you keep being told no, you deserve to be burned, it'll teach you to stop playing with fire next time

>>4420703
I don't know who Casca is, but I assume "Casca'd" means to be either killed or fucked over.
Don't underestimate how stupid players are. I've been one of those players who didn't pick up on what the QM was suggesting, and while I accepted the consequences myself, it killed the quest as people suddenly lost enthusiasm. Sounds like they deserve it, but beware the backlash, especially if your playerbase is small and vulnerable to people leaving over it or large enough to fuel a shitstorm.

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>>4420645
>What kind of quest would you like to see more often?
[/spoiler]unironically a decent smut qst

>>4420645
>What kind of quest would you like to see more often?

Mutiplayer quests where the QM doesn't flake.

>>4420718
Casca arguably has the worst timeline in Berserk.

>>4420723
Evil Sorceress Quest.

>>4420691
I meant "explain it to us". Also I doubt they actually check that shit.

Put Jannies in the noose.

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>>4409373
>>4409373
>>4409373

Into the Wilderness Quest #3 just updated! We're wrapping up day 10 of our 28 day rite of passage, and have already gotten a fair amount of the tools we'll need to catch a bear! Results of traps may vary. Consult your local shaman before attempting to cut the bear ass off of a live bear.

>>4420703

If Anons set down the bear-trap you gave them for hunting bears, and then choose to lower themselves crotch first onto that bear-trap while slathering themselves in honey in the middle of the woods, It's entirely their fault for misusing the resources you supplied them. It's a bit shitty cleaning the honey out of their bear wounds, especially when they set the trap back up again and buy more honey from the grocery store, but it is what it is. At the very least, listening to them screech about 'muh consequences of muh actions' into the night like dying coyotes brings a smidgeon of sadistic joy into my shrivelled blackened heart.

>>4420701
Do you have any advice on how to properly execute SOL across multiple threads?

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>>4420751
> QM name starts with a "W".

Hmmmmm.

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>>4420723
>tfw still trying to fill an FQ sized hole more than six months later
Losing hope.

>>4420645

>QM question
I usually think through what is probably a priority of the moment, and provide a few options for what they may want to do. I usually leave prompts for write-ins, since if I wanted to write a CYOA novel, I may as well publish it for some pennies on the dollar anyways.

>Player question
I'm usually fine with whatever, but generally prefer things that are different than Isekai's or existing properties. If I want to read someone's terrible fan-fiction, there's other places for that. I have a few other ideas in the barrel that I want to run (a Shot and Pike era Fantasy merchant caravan quest, a draw-thread cave-exploration style one when my replacement tablet pen come in, and one based vaguely on Age of Sail exploration), but I'd rather finish the one that's on the go first. Too abandoned quests as it is.

>General question

I don't really play them. I have fond memories of stuff like Ogre Civ Quest, but too many of these games are still-born before they even finish picking a place.

>Lurker question
Don't tell me how to live my life, "Mom"! Just because you're fucking my Dad doesn't mean I have to listen to you. GET OUT OF MY ROOM!

>>4420778
I wouldn't know what to tell you since SOL is pretty varied and more on character building and strengthening relationships

>What kind of quest would you like to see more often?
I'm the lowest common denominator so any decent Xianxia quest or whatever-management quest hooks me. As long as the QMs don't die.

>>4420781
Leave Terry. He has nothing to do with Wux.

>>4420795
The Wuxian Paranoia slowly creeps into the minds of all /qtg/ members.

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>>4420781

Believe what you will Anon, we are all just peasants scrabbling for tips on a Trinidadian crab-pot making forum here. All samefags must hang.

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>been hoping to try my hand at a Taimanin quest
>decide to research for awhile and work on a vague story that players can inevitably fuck up
>it's been a week and I still feel as if I know nothing
I don't want to give up but I can feel my willpower and life force ebbing away.
Running out of lube too.

>>4420806
I think a good amount of anti-Wux posts are from one man. They had a fallout because that man was being that guy. Wux did some of the stuff he's being accused off but some it is just bullshit without proof. He was always nice to me and the other players as far as I know. Discord Trannies reported Goblin QM. Like I said the Wux hater would had been banned if Wux did it. I just want them to get along again and play together.

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Gnoll Quest update

>>4420798

>>4420827
I think all this drama would be settled already if 4chan had a moderation log, how can jannies and mods be held accountable to the users if there's no way to see who did what?

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All samefags must hang.

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More serious, I’ll provide an update to Sworn to Valour players when I figure out what our next step is.

>>4420840
That is correct. I'm the anon above. I had to do a favor, but I as watching my quest.

>>4420846
>>4420848
What are your feelings on the fact that you've become a Martyr?

>>4420645
>What kind of quest would you like to see more often?

I've been itching for a new Hollow quest.

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>>4419256
>>4419256
>>4419256
That Voice In Your Head Quest #3
I have no votes. Please come.

>>4420827
Fuck off Wux. Everyone saw you harass other QMs ban them and then delete hundred of post talking about it.

>>4420866
Give proofs he banned anyone, T.

>>4420787
I see where you’re coming from. I was just wondering if there was any way to keep stuff like that fresh. Having nothing but mostly dialogue for most of a thread seems like a chore to both read and write if not much else is going on.


>>4420795
>>4420827
>One man with dozens of proxies took the last qtg to over 1k posts several times over
Because only one anon could possibly have a reason to dislike Wuxian right?

>>4420891
One by this ID post yet again

>>4420891
That's why i said that there should still be a big plot, slice of life has the potential to actually make you give a shit about the characters, how they view you and their safety if you mess around with them beforehand

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>>4420887
No one is saying Wuxian personally banned anyone, Jannies can submit requests for mods to ban, see pic

>>4420645
I wanna see more civ quests that get abandoned a day in and a new one started the next day. Those are the best

>>4420908
People are saying he got Goblin QM banned, but not ONE anon that said shit about Wux made a post about them getting banned and showing a screenshot.

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I like hosting on /qst/ despite the low playercount because it's always super comfy and I can ignore romance (and thus waifu wars) without complaint, but I'd be lying if I said this bullshit didn't make me consider akun. Maybe they won't even try to fuck every living and dead thing that appears.

>>4420898
I’m >>4420778 if you couldn’t tell, and being a 1 post ID is understandable given that this is a mew thread. Even so, having a post count of 1 does nothing to discredit my statement.

>>4420906
I’m not really going for investment in my next outing (for the most part anyway) but I’ll keep this in mind.

>>4420935
It's akun. They will.

It has nice chats but I really dislike the chat being seperate since half the fun is the audience reaction.

>>4420938
I just saw too much One by this ID in the last for it be just chance

>>4420953
He was nice to you too. Even when you were that that guy. The only person he went to far with was Gravel QM or whoever. You're still a hypocrite.

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>>4420916
>>4420916
>>4420916
The heathen, traitor to the crown, and ringleader of your circus takes center stage. (It's really more of a campfire. Still!) No darkness can obscure the sunniness of his disposition, nor his status as your knight in shining armor.

Catalyst Quest's weekday update is out.

>>4420952
So you stand by the idea that every post made against him has been created by only one person? Just a cursory look through the last general debunks that theory.

>>4420973
>>4420972
>So you stand by the idea that every post made against him has been created by only one person?
No, but your 2 posts replying to me are 3 seconds apart.

>>4420979
You’re beyond help. If anything, that only proves that multiple people have a problem with how things have been run over these last few weeks.

>>4420949

That's the main thing that keeps bringing me back around. It's nice seeing everything blow up when things happen, good or bad.

I could really use less of the waifu shit and the mammoth walls of text defending/attacking/both-at-the-same-time them though. Brings to mind those clay tablets they found ripping apart copper merchants that they dug up some years ago.

>>4420995
Dude. The posts were 3 seconds apart. You're a samefag. I'm busy.

>>4421004
How retarded are you?

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>>4421004
Stop projecting

>>4421004
Your a fucking idiot bootlicker many of us have issue witb wuxian

>>4421004
You’re a bigger faggot and rube than wuxian is and that’s quite an achievement.

>>4421004
You don’t seem busy enough in my opinion.

>>4420645
>qm question

I try my best to have mutiple open ended paths and generate the story as we go along so as to not tear choice from the player

>player question

I would love more alt-history and strategy/civ games that stick around. Giests left beyond were some of my fav on this board.

>general question

I think they are neat but too much of a commitment to play. Would love one in a IP i liked. Played a fanstasy one forever ago.

>lurker question

Sometimes I just like reading and not voting. Or i cant vote due to the internet connected too.

>>4421023
>>4421015
>>4421017
>>4421009
>>4421018
I said those replies were 3 seconds apart. How is any of this worth it to you?

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>>4421028
Fucking projecting cuck. I bet the only reason you think were all one person is you samefag constantly.

>>4421028
You don’t understand a fucking thing about this website do you? Just admit it.

>>4421032
He did admit to samefagging here >>4420851
>>4420827

>>4421040
What a fucking joke. Samefags are cancer.

>>4421028
The usual bootlickers aren’t this stupid.

>>4421032
>>4421034
You switched proxies. Cool. I didn't get this many replies the last thread either. I don't even want to fight. Say you're sorry to him and maybe you can go back. You want to talk about it? You seem lonely. I was lonely too.
>>4421040
I was out. The rest are mine.

>>4421046
God you’re just a fucking clown now.

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>>4421028
>>4421046
here's your (you)

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Mutant!Quest is live!

In which OP interrupts whatever the fuck is going on here to shill an actual quest, cause one of our hostages just conked out on us!!!

>>4420882
>>4420882
>>4420882

>>4421052
I only wanted to defend him. I was honest about the bad things he did. I said I wanted you back, but you are still doing this? Do you even want to do this or are you lonely? Want to help you. I will talk to Wux about giving you another chance.

Wuxian is off his meds again.

What the fuck is this guy even talking about?

>>4421064
I never touched any one of his quest with a barge pole and I never shall. Now run along you fucking little creep.

>>4421086
Wuxian is having a psychotic episode again.

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> check up on a quest after forgetting about it for several months
> it's dead
god fucking damnit
forgot drawing was a thing

>>4420848
You gave into the drama and shitflinging that was precisely what Samefag anon/Wuxian/collective shitters wanted.

You move they win.

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>>4421153

Daily Planet Quest Update:

Lois Lane knows a thing or two about Aeronautics Engineer Charles Brown and her Ex Boyfriend Lex Luthor. Choose Lex's attaché. React to the missiles on a collision course with the sub orbital plane, chose how Lois reacts in the face of certain death, and make his first choice stepping out where he can't hide anymore...

The masquerade ends and a new age dawns.

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>>4420852

As the brothers Cain and Adam so ventured to new lands in search of freedom, Sworn to Valour and its disciples must consider whether the time has come to leave the shores of 4Cathagi in search of a new promised land.

>>4420645
>>Lurker question
>Why are you like this?
Because of Survive and his Dino WW2 Guerilla Simulator

>Player question
What kind of quest would you like to see more often?

More Quests centered around common soldiers like the Imperial Guard (including Deathcore of Krieg)
and more shit about fighting Aliens or Dinos. And more WW2 quests.

More shit that allows you to romance Aliens and fantasy races. more aliens desu

>>4421235
quest when Forgotten?

>>4421235
>>4421238
And quest where Forgotten?

>>4421238
>>4421239
I’ll have to have a look around. Any suggestions?

>>4421240
There’s always Aku- fooled ya!

>>4421240
Man this is the only place I actually follow(ed) quests regularly. I once started following a quest on Sufficient Velocity (QM flaked) and the system of creating bookmarks throughout the thread that link to votes and shit seemed pretty interesting and handy. That being said I know nothing about the sites culture or moderation.

Akun has a nice looking layout but... I mean its akun... nothing but smutbait as far as the eye can see.

I've not really looked at any other questing sites but I'll follow the quest wherever it ends up. At the end of the day, who gives a shit what the rest of the website is like as long as we can play our game in peace

>>4421240
here. please dont torture us. We are loosing too many to that filth Akun.

Id say start it on a Friday.

Dino quest when?

>>4421246
Why would you want to stay in a place where the quest is just going to get fucked with?

>>4421247
Because it is simple and easy to use.

Ive been outta the loop for a while though, who is messing with /qst/?

>>4421240
I'll his reiterate what I said here >>4421171

Just run it here and fuck the bullshit

>>4421249
Did you really miss the whole drama of the entire last thread being deleted before it could be archived (and before it was done) and hundreds of posts being deleted, Forgotten being temp banned (and probably permanently banned soon)?

Wuxian (a janitor) has been harassing QMs and fucking with quests for months now and his latest target is Forgotten. On top of that there is an alleged samefag who claims to be massively influencing votes to the point of being solely responsible for certain contentious choices winning (although I seriously doubt this)

>>4421235
Samefagging and thirstiness plague Anonkun too. You'd switch one plague for another.

Of the sites I'm aware of you might be better off with Questionable Questing. Still thirsty, but NSFW Questing has some decent activity. It's also a forum so the risk of sockpuppetting should be reduced to a minimum.

>>4421252
I rarely visit QTG and i spent the lat month preparing for college.

I have heard of Wuxian before, but back then he was just sperging out. though if he is deleting posts he should lose his job and do something productive with his life

>>4421240
I don't really know much about other questing places so I'd rather you stay here and just ignore the janny for a bit, but what I've heard is: Questionable Questing is dead besides the few nsfw running there. Forum questing on Sufficient Velocity is terrible, I hear the mods will ban your shit if your quest is ''triggering" or whatever. Akun is Akun and even more prone to samefagging than here. I hear Space Battles is better moderated than SV but most of the quests I see over there are like NarutoxCivxBleachxCrusaderKings so I don't know..

I love StV man and I'd follow it anywhere but you leaving is just giving the powertripping autists, whoever they are, the rush they want. I really want you to reconsider if you're set on leaving.

>>4421171
>>4421250
If wuxian really is a janitor and /qst/ is his assigned board, he can delete any post or thread. If forgotten complains about him wuxian can report him to mods for breaking rule 8 (complaining about 4chan policy) and get him banned again. So if wuxian really is the janitor, he has already won.

>>4421240
There is always TGchan/Questden, but its filled with Niche furries. though if you look in the archives you can see there is some very good shit.

>>4421258
Just fucking ignore the little autist and run the quest. There is no need to engage with tranny jannies and lying """"samefags"""""

Fuck Wuxian, fuck janitors and fuck samefags.

>>4421258
We can always sign a petition.

>>4421257
>>4421260

This is such a dumb viewpoint. What will ignoring him do? Make him suddenly go away? He's a janitor, not a mythical creature. He'll stay and keep ruining the threads as he's done to other QMs. We can stay here and we'll forever be at the mercy of this fuckwit janitor and his post deleting bullshit. Or we can go elsewhere and play in peace no?

Like, the playerbase is a decent size, we could go to a literal barren wasteland of a forum (or just start a new one from scratch) and at least we'd get to play

>>4421240
Akun- if your problem is samefaggotry, stay the fuck away from akun (no poster id, samefags can vote without account, free proxies aren't blocked, no captcha etc)
SB/SV- only registered users can vote so less samefags but sjw mods so you'll be banned if you call anyone knigga
QQ- your best option but small playerbase unless you write smut

>>4420970
I love your quest.

>>4421258
Better to remain and spite them than quit in defeat, samefags/wuxian whoever the fuck shitted up the thread wants to drive forgotten and stv off the board they can go pork themselves with a pineapple instead of getting what they want.

>>4421240
Just try to run here once more. If the thread gets nuked for something that isn’t rule breaking then we go searching for better lands. (As long as it isn’t akun for the love of god)

>>4421240
But all in all please stay here Forgotten. You are capable of writing
amazing quests and you shouldn't let one autistic 12 yo take that from you.

Staying here would make you a target and leaving would give him what he wants.

All in all stay with us Forgotten. I believe in you. Keep questing.

>>4421263
I don't know man, but the snapping little fucking faggot wants StV gone clearly and I don't want him jacking his tiny cock off to this like he won his little internet crusade. He can probably delete posts in spurts as pleases him without rousing the lazy mods, but he can't regularly purge posts and delete the same threads over and over when they're not breaking any rules for very long without anybody noticing, right? I know moderation on 4chan is a joke but how bad can it get before the mods actually do their jobs? I legitimately don't know, do you? Are there any other cases of jannies being this horribly fucking bad?

The way I see it Forgotten will probably be walking on eggshells for like 1 or 2 threads until the jannies autism abates and he moves onto his next bully target. Just leave the "nsfw" scenes to a pastebin and we should be fine. Leaving just doesn't sit right with me, this faggot should not get to carve out his little internet fiefdom.

>>4421272
Yeah this too. I know it’s unfair to you but leaving would encourage that faggot to harrass every other qm on this board until there’s no one left. By keeping things SFW for the next few threads and remaining by far the most popular quest on this board you have pissed on his dream harder than any trollpost.

>creating another thread this early

>>4421277
What, did your 30 day old thread fall off? Fuck off faggot

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>>4421274
>>4421272
I don’t really think these arguments hold much water, if I’m honest. I’m running this quest to have fun, tell a good story and practice my writing skills. I’m not running a quest just to ‘prove samefag jannies wrong’ or some crusade like that. A shitpost update to tickle his anus, sure. I’ll count that as a fun win in my childish-schoolyard-bullies-suck notebook, but I don’t see the point in continuing to run when this guy can and WILL actively fuck with the threads, even if it’s just deleting posts wholesale instead of dishing out bans. There were 120+ posts deleted before the thread was removed, and most of those didn’t breach any forum rule at all. Do you really want to check the moe archive everytime to see what’s been deleted? And that’s just assuming he doesn’t up his samefag efforts as well.

You’re essentially arguing for me to remain here to prove some kind of point. And as added bonus (of all things) him shitting up my threads will mean that other quests can continue free of persecution? I’m amused by the martyr and crucifixion posts but I’m not literally QM Jesus, guys. I’m not sticking around here so that other quests do better, that makes no sense. I honestly don’t have the self-loathing to continue to run quests on 4chan out of spite, that’d just be sad.

>>4421272
>>4421269
>>4421274


I think we need to stop caring about winning and losing, you guys are just letting this retard live rent free in your heads. Who cares if he feels superior or feels like he beat Forgotten, who cares if he literally brags about it? The only way to get ahead of this is to not engage. Don't play the ego games with him. We're not here to beat someone in some competition, we're here to play a game

>>4421272
>until the jannies autism abates
Wuxian is a literal special needs retard so I doubt his autism will ever stop

>>4421289
1. Get your own hosting for like 15 bucks
2. Install a 4chan/imageboard clone script (5 mins tops)
3. Run your quest without answering to anyone

>>4421289
Look. First things first, the samefag isn’t real. It’s a cheap troll made specifically to annoy you and I doubt that it’s actually Wuxian. Secondly, I doubt he can delete posts that are just votes or quest discussions without some mod finally finding out.

>>4421289
Yeah I see your point. Whatever you choose I love the quest so I'll follow.

>>4421289
If you’re really set on moving though, then QQ the place. We’re all gonna eat instant permabans if you take things to SB/SV. Akun is worse for samefags and trolling the site owner with light jokes will get you banned too.

>>4421289
Please dont go. Even if you move somewhere your playerbase will
die off like all the other QMs have. then that will demoralize you and
you wont ever run quests again.

>>4421289
just run a thread without the shitposting and samefag drama if it floats it floats if it doesn't well think about moving on some more.

Fuck moving fuck samefags and fuck this drama

>>4421303
Dude the playerbase will follow, a ton of people have made that clear. Its just a website, who gives a shit?

>>4421289
You should give questden/tgchan a try. It's an imageboard so it'll be easy for you to adjust and moderation is also decent. They can use the boost from a popular quest moving there

>>4421305
Bad memories anon.

>>4421289
If you are deadset in moving, head to questden/tgchan. They have needed Newblood for a while. They even have a discord you can join if you have problems.

>>4421289
Just give it one more shot. Try making a thread without the ass rape shitpost and any nsfw on a pastebin. If anything get deleted then you move out asap.

>>4421306
>>4421307
Ugh fuck no. The interface is horrifyingly primitive.

>>4421289
I think the biggest issue will come from archiving. Every solution has been tailored for /tg/ and /qst/. Somewhere else wont have the hosting/archiving solutions so readily available.

Well you are the QM so if you do decide to move, I'd suggest at least one last thread where the pointers to the new location can be left in thread for suptg/archived.moe so that those who come after can follow.

>>4421312
It's an imageboard same as /qst/

>>4421316
IDs are a little harder to count though

>>4421316
Yes and it’s shit and primitive.

>>4421313
Other sites have built in archives, wikis and lot more qm tools

>>4421289
Have you figured out why he targeted you though?

>>4421313
Putting it on a forum would solve the archive problem by definition. It's all there and nothing expires

>>4421321
For deletion and banning? Or for samefagging in the first place?

I suspect that the culprit is one and the same, although I could be wrong.

>>4421326
Deletion and banning part.

Hey forgotten. I’ve “archived” the thread on suptg on my own initiative. Hope you like it, scroll to bottom to see.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Sworn%20to%20Valour

>>4421321
Wuxian targets everyone more people popular than him. Goblin qm, sweets etc were targeted before

>>4421321
Wuxian is a certified autist and a raging homosexual. You would have to have some sort of mental health issue to truly understand why he does any of this.

>>4421330
Hey my man, I appreciate it! I hope you haven’t hijacked BONEITIS QM, in case he wanted to archive his thread?

>>4421329
Well it was fairly obviously a reaction to the shitpost ruining the samefags fun. There is a thin argument that it breached the forum rules (the garter pic for example), but that in no way excuses the wholesale deletion of posts poking fun at the samefag or laughing in reaction to the shitpost. As for the shitpost itself, it was obviously humorous in nature and much less racy than other stuff that’s been posted here and not even commented on.

>>4421326
The so called samefag is a butthurt troll who chimped out because a few decisons have not gone his way lately. And I actually doubt the veracity of any of his claims. Wuxian is a fucking schizo and that’s all that needs to be said.

>>4421334
Oh no don’t worry about that. I picked out a dead quest on the archive with the fewest amount of votes as possible. No one should be bothered. Hope you’ll stay for at least one more thread here. Finish things up.

>>4421334
Here are my strategies

1
>move on to another website

2
>carry on like nothing ever happened and keep enforcing Samefag rules

2.1
>continue on like nothing ever happend, but role back all the decisions made in that thread

3
>take a break from writing and let this weirdo calm down

4
> Design a quest for catching this fag with his pants down. so we can mass report him.

Tell me what you think about it.

anybody else can add to it.

>>4421347
4 is a bit cringe bro

>>4421350
Not to mention pointless

>>4421350
its 5am bro i cant think straight

>>4421289
Stay please. You have all these people that care about you.

>>4421362
This

>>4421362
>>4421364

Why do you guys want him to stick around and be harassed continually? Because 4chan is a familiar place and you don't want to get used to another forum/image board? Holding loyalty to a single website in a sea of them is pointless, the only thing that matters is that the game continues and we all (including Forgotton) have a good time. Seems like a difficult thing to achieve here now

>>4421368
You want him to give in?

>>4421368
I dont know anon. It just frustrates me that one dude can break up a whole community.

>>4421369
>>4421371

This right here is the problem. It's not about "giving in" or "winning". None of that matters. You know what I want? I want to play Sworn to Valour and Black Company 2077 and whatever other cool shit Forgotten runs. I want to have fun and I want Forgotten to enjoy running these quests so he keeps doing it and I want the players to keep arguing and debating and posting hilarious OC and coming up with great write ins because its fucking fun.

The community can move to a new place, this is just the front end for a url, it's nothing special, we can keep the same shit going anywhere else. We only lose (if we must think of all of this in a win/lose way) if we stop playing and if Forgotten stops running. That would be giving up. Moving elsewhere and continuing to play just means avoiding the problem entirely and taking away that dickheads power. Sure, he can sit here and laugh and jerk off about how he made another QM leave but guess what? A month later we'll have all forgotten about him because we'll be having fun playing out game. That's what this shit is about.

>>4421372
It will hurt the morale of the board and the samefag will do it again.

>>4421372
Yes but at the same time Standing stong and not allowing the sperg to hurt us or cause us to give up and go somewhere else (which is probably his goal) will show him he cant influence us.

>>4421373
Dude the board is dead. Look at the stats from the previous /qtg/ activity has dipped massively and has been on a steady decline since day one. We get almost no traffic because we have no banner and are a containment board. And honestly, who gives a shit? Why should Forgotten sacrifice the quality of his quest for the sake of the board? That's nothing but a bandaide and will result in exactly what you're predicting right now when he ultimately quits completely because of his threads being fucked with.

I see two potential outcomes; Forgotten stays as you suggest and continues to run quests for a time. They get fucked with/deleted/posts are deleted and players etc banned and then he quits because he's exhausted and sick of it all and that's it. Done. And with it board morale goes down.

Or, he takes the game and his playerbase elsewhere, somewhere Wuxain has no power and we continue to play until the game runs its course. Maybe we only finish STV and BC and that's it. He finishes his run satisfied, and people move on but got some fun content and a real ending. Or maybe we keep running quests with Forgotten for a long while, perhaps even a few other QMs start up and we build a new community.

>>4421378
It wont anon, it'll do nothing but allow Wuxian to continue to influence the board by deleting shit and harassing QMs. You don't tell someone to stay in an abusive relationship in real life to show the other person they can't win. When shit is toxic, you move on and find a better place. Don't tie your ego to this, you haven't lost, he hasn't won. We win by having fun and continuing to play. Just not here

>>4421378
And furthermore we can't prevent him from doing the quest harm. He's a janitor, we have no power in what he deletes. There is no avenue in which stand strong because he can delete everything the QM or players post until Forgotten gives up and leaves. I'd rather keep the fun going elsewhere than watch as Forgotten gets burnt out and the game ends

>>4421382
But you still have to acknowledge publicity of the quest. If you move somewhere else people wont be willing to go there because they are fine here with other quests.

>>4421385
I disagree, a whole bunch of people have voiced that they absolutely will follow the quest wherever it goes. Both in /qtg/ and in the now deleted thread. The publicity of the quest is exactly why this is possible. Forgotten runs one of the more popular quests on the board and people are invested in it. It might be that many wont like it, especially if we lose our anonymity, but they'll put up with it to keep playing. They've made this clear. Undoubtedly there will be some who do not follow, but that is pretty consistent with all change. Hopefully, they'll either come around and re-join or we'll pick up other players. If not, I fully believe we'll have enough players to make it worth while.

>>4421385
I think StV has a large enough player base that even if half aren't willing to follow it elsewhere it'll still be more than enough to run a quest with.
That said I'm a proponent of giving it one last shot here, without any more shitposting the first time was fun the second was mostly just annoying to me. But i get why Forgotten acted that way.

>>4421387
>>4421388

can we at least agree that we should give it one more chance here with no shitposting and if he continues to delete shit we will move on?

>>4421389
I don't personally think it's worth it. But I'll be around to post and contribute if it happens.

>>4421389
>>4421388
>That said I'm a proponent of giving it one last shot here, without any more shitposting the first time was fun the second was mostly just annoying to me.
yes?

>>4421390
>>4421393
coolio

I started my adventure with quest on here I was quite a newfag because I don't even remember questing being on /tg/. From other questing sites I only used Akun to have proper opinion. SB and SV I didn't use much because first time I even posted something I would consider save meme I got a warning. QQ I don't know but has same forum format that SB and SV got so it shit in my opinion.

Akun has most options for chat and for QM's. For den of degeneracy and shithole it is its best place to move your quest. From implementing music Pictures and having a chat timer to live and clean way to see votes its just that much better because is has quality of live features. Also It's shit pile of code put together with duct tape

>>4421380
>>4421382
I don't want him to sacrifice the quality and he should not, but if he goes it will only go down from here. What's one more shot going to do?

>>4421398
>I don't want him to sacrifice the quality and he should not, but if he goes it will only go down from here
How?

>>4421399
The samefag will attack other QMs.

>>4421398
> but if he goes it will only go down from here

Where is this assumption coming from? Why do you think the quality of his posts will be worse on one website compared to another? I don't understand this thinking and it just comes across as being very attached to 4chan, which sure I get, you're used to it, but a change wont make things worse necessarily.

>What's one more shot going to do?

No idea, I can't speak for the QM or anyone else. Its up to him to decide if he wants to keep trying. It could be that it goes terribly and he decides to throw in the towel then and there or maybe it'll go great. Who knows.

>>4421400
Ok this right here is absolutely not Forgottens problem. If the janitor goes after other QMs maybe we should all just leave and let this place die. You can't expect Forgotten to stay here for the sake of the board though, that's fucking stupid.

from what i understand Samefagging started all of this right?

>>4421401
>maybe we should all just leave and let this place die
This. /qst/ will not modernise or improve it won't have growing community or surge of new users, its dying. The only reason to stay its nostalgia you like it or not. I say let it die and move somewhere else.

>>4421402
This specific saga in the autism surrounding the janny and wuxian and stuff, but it's been going on for a bit now. Also just want to say the samefags claims of being a samefag are highly fucking dubious to say the least. He's most likely just some salty faggot.

>>4421409
But at what point in time did the janny start deleting stuff from the thread?

>>4421401
I know it's not his problem, but it is something that will happen. I don't blame him. I don't even believe wuxian even did because he's in very hot water.
>>4421409
Talking about me?

>>4421412
Let me take a look through the thread, I forget exactly.

>>4421413
Huh? Stop shizoposting pal.

>>4421413
Ok but you're suggesting he shouldn't leave because it'll tank the boards quality etc. The board as a whole isn't his responsibility, he only needs to look after his own quests if he continues to run them. What happens to the board as a whole isn't something that should factor in to where he runs.

>>4421417
He's likely from /tg/ and follows a few quests.
>>4421418
I said he can do what he wants. There's other QMs holding this place up. I'm just saying the harasser will stay and fuck up more quests.
>>4421415
I'm bad at this stuff. I just wanted to know.

>>4421417
Can you read?

>>4421421
>I said he can do what he wants. There's other QMs holding this place up. I'm just saying the harasser will stay and fuck up more quests.


Ok fair enough, it was pretty unclear that that's what you were saying but I understand now. You're right, the harassers will stay and fuck more shit up. There isn't much any of us can do about that though it seems

>>4421424
There's always a way.

>>4421425
That kind of idealism is pure Emile and I love you for it, but do you have any actual suggestions?

I’m not sure what good trying another thread would do, I’d just be paranoid that most of the posts were being deleted and/or samefagged with this guy still around.

>>4421289
Wherever you go I will follow have no doubt of that. If you must move I prefer anonkun for the interface. You could easily counter the samefags by only counting votes from register users.

>>4421435
The only way to know is to try.

>>4421437
>You could easily counter the samefags by only counting votes from register user

you could just make new accounts bro

>>4421437
Anonkun is terrible for discussion, and I find that's the most fun part of StV quests for me. I worry over /qst/ dying for goodm I've browsed all the other questing platforms and none of them are like here. They either ban you for the slightest microaggression, or are filled completely with smutfags or are dead. I would be very sad if this board dies off. Is there no way for the moderators to intervene?

>>4421435
as far as another thread goes its a chance to surmount the bullshit and keep the quest here rather than moving on.

>>4421441
You can make new accounts everywhere or use a dynamic IP here or every other place it doesn't require a registration. The only real contract against samefaggying is a time consuming registration process.

>>4421240
>>4421289
>>4421435
I recommend QQ (Questionable Questing). The only issue with it is the small playerbase, but that's a throwaway problem for a popular quest like yours.

I think the other anons don't understand the main issue for Forgotten. Janitor or no janitor the samefagging won't stop. Forgotten is a QM who updates only once every day which is a big, big weakness against samefagging. I'm willing to bet that the samefag who revealed himself isn't the only one samefagging Forgotten's quests and there are others.

>>4421443
While I don't denied there are a lot of shitty smut quests with monstergirls in anonkun there is also more than a few good quest with good writing and mechanics.

BTW, the samefag's posts never got removed even after he revealed himself as a samefag. I remember someone said that samefagging isn't against the rules. Is that true?

He is not a proven samefag. All he proved was he knew how to cycle his IP address.

>>4421446
Time consuming reg is just a one time investment, and much less of a hassle in the long run for samefags. Once your 50 accounts are made just log in and out as needed.
which is why my offer verify every poster by receiving a private with name, pictures of face, drivers license and credit card(front and back). That way just send me a pic with timestamp and claim your in thread id which i will then verify. Emails can be send to M.Hewitt@coppermail.pa

Couldn't we just use a forum like proboards or something? Make one specific to STV/BC stuff rather than jumping on an established forum. Yes players can make new accounts but admins can view the IPs etc from those accounts and ban anything sus. Personally I'm fine with jumping to an established place but it seems thats a point of contention for some

>>4421450
>>4421451

It isnt against 4chans rules. But QMs can decide wither or not to count them or not on their own.

>>4421456
>It isnt against 4chans rules. But QMs can decide wither or not to count them or not on their own.

Damn. That means that samefags will never be banned even if they get caught or reveal themselves. They only need to make sure the QM doesn't catch their samefagging.

wow it's so easy to

to totally run back and forth between different wifi hotspots

and be le epic samefag

All these problems are due one bad janitor. If we could only get one good janny who took samefagging complaints seriously and didn't interfere with other people's quest, we would have none of these problems and life would go on fine. Again, can we do nothing about this? Make a thread on /qa/ or something?

i'm totally not cycling my ip! every post in the qtg so far has been me guys! now leave lol!

>>4421467
It really doesn't matter who's the janitor in this case. Complaints against samefagging will never go anywhere because samefagging isn't against the rules. Janitors and moderators won't and can't do anything about samefags even if they wanted to.

So I guess /qst/ is just totally btfo cause I just revealed I have psyopped this whole thing! Ever since /tg/ there has literally been zero players it's all me!

>>4421471
Then we need a /qst/ specific rule against samefagging. There are already other /qst/ specific rules when reporting a post, no reason why we can't have one more.

>>4421474
How the fuck would that even be enforced?

>>4421462
>>4421465
>>4421468
>>4421473
That samefag lives near many hotels as well as internet coffee shops. He has asked to use their wifis, so he knows all of their passwords. He would just need to take a short walk at any point of the day if he wants to samefag because votes in StV typically last a whole day. Also, he has posted with the same ID's multiple times.

>>4421477
Yeah I can't think of a way to enforce it. I think Forgotten's system for samefagging was pretty good, every vote has to link to a previous vote. I don't know why he thought the samefag beat that system without any proof. I can cycle IPs but I can't link back to previous votes then.

>>4421474
>Then we need a /qst/ specific rule against samefagging.

Good luck with adding that rule, my friend. You're going to need it.

>>4421482
Well then I think the only solution is to inform in advance exactly when the vote is going to be held and close the vote quickly after that (like in 20 minutes). Sure all players couldn't participate, but if you want to avoid samefags that much..

Samefagging really is not the giant issue, even if it was it's not really gonna be solved by moving to a different site. This is mostly just shitposting and autism that manifested too strongly. I really do feel Forgotten should run one last thread here, if for the only reason being to have something to archive in the suptg that explains to people catching up what happened and where to find the quest. See where this jannie stands before we jump to radical conclusions.

>>4421493
he runs another thread, and if the jannie doesnt touch it, he stays here.

>>4421496
Very forceful there pal lol I would like that but maybe you should go to bed

>>4421498
Cant. I have to stay up to fix my sleeping schedule

>>4421483
>I think Forgotten's system for samefagging was pretty good

It's pretty good for lazy samefags who aren't persistent and careful. You don't even need the multiple wifis the samefag had to beat it. Just post with multiple placeholder IDs at the beginning of the thread and then link back to them with your current IDs.

>I don't know why he thought the samefag beat that system without any proof. I can cycle IPs but I can't link back to previous votes then.

In the last /qtg/ thread, the samefag's IDs never changed even though he repeatedly posted with each of them back and forth multiple times. He wasn't just cycling through his own modem, he actually has access to many wifis. Forgotten's system is helpless against this.

>>4421486
>Well then I think the only solution is to inform in advance exactly when the vote is going to be held and close the vote quickly after that (like in 20 minutes).

This is a good method, but I don't think Forgotten will want to implement it because he wants to keep his one-per-day update schedule and have all the players participate.

>>4421493
>if for the only reason being to have something to archive in the suptg that explains to people catching up what happened and where to find the quest.

The deleted thread has already been archived in suptg by this>>4421330 anon though.

What tools do you use for threads where you also draw? I used paint originally but lack of layers sucked. I used Krita but I'm looking for something simpler. I know there's a built in utility but I'd rather something that I have on my desktop.

>>4421513
I used Paint Tool Sai. Don't know how it compares to Krita, but it's pretty simple.

>>4421334
Since every other questing site is shit, here's my advice, if you really want to move elsewhere, just buy a cheap VPS + cheap domain (like a .xyz one on EPIK) then install LynxChan on it, you'll be able to do whatever you want, run your quest, and maybe even have others run their quests on your site too.
https://gitgud.io/LynxChan/LynxChan
I'd recommend a host like Digital Ocean, after you get everything set up with LynxChan all you'd need to do is set up CloudFlare so you don't get DDoSed + get their free SSL certificate.

>>4421451
I think using proxies is bannable. I think samefaggin falls under that category

>>4421519
I think the general consensus was that the samefag was using his phone to samefag, the airplane mode method

so is qst no longer a good place to run anymore? should i just try on akun instead?

>>4421513
Photoshop! Not simple tho

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>QM question
>How do you work to include difficult, meaningful choices? Do you even bother?

It's important to know when to stop writing and start prompting. Sometimes this is immediate and in the moment, sometimes you'll have to go whole days of narrative. I've found a few rules so far:

>If something would cause harm due to character action, like the main character pressing a button, it should either be a direct result of a choice, or part of a choice.
>If there are characters having a chat, it's important to allow players a chance to bring up questions and discuss recent events. Don't cut off conversations too fast.
>Never, ever tell your players outright not to do something. Just like anywhere else on 4chan, this is only a recipe for disaster. Signal your displeasure in other ways, don't be a dick about it until you need to. (Which, admittedly, can sometimes be 'immediately')

The prompts of a quest may be its most important part and where you most directly speak to your players [spoilers]without using spoiler tags or OOC posts[/spoilers]. Use it effectively and you'll enhance both your enjoyment and that of your players, use it poorly and the rails will not only be placed, they will be made of neon lights in the dark.

>>4421516
I would love it if we could create a new questing website. Getting admins that arer autisic and setting up methods to block samefags would be dfficult tho.

>>4421334
I set up a pretty simple and basic forum for you to use if you want. Commented on your latest twitter post about it. If you want details message me there and I can transfer ownership etc. Everything about it can be modified or it can just be deleted, it took like 5 mins to make

>>4421551
Yeah I don't know about the latter part there but with the autistic admins bit, that wouldn't really be a problem since there's actual accountability on imageboard software like LynxChan, for example: https://www.lynxchan.net/logs.js?boardUri=lynx
https://www.lynxchan.net/logs.js
LynxChan has global and board logs that log every moderator action, LynxChan also has an account system which might be able to fix the samefagging problem if everyone just used trips and an account to prove it was them.

>>4421558
>if everyone just used trips
I mean he could do it here. But the what’s the point of an anonymous board then? Might as well move to a forum.

>>4421540
If you’re new and quest your quest isn’t lewd then you’re not making it on akun.

>>4421571
Yeah that's kinda the problem, how do we solve the samefagging problem while still preserving the spirit of imageboards?

>>4421575
Go off mac adresses

>>4421575
You don't. As long as there's anons there'll be samefags.

>>4421526
He said how he "did it," which was through wandering around and using restaurant and hotel wifi connections. If you stop and think about it for a few minutes it quickly becomes clear how utterly ridiculous their claims were.
Which is why it's doubly tiresome that things turned out this way really. I understand why it hurts to be gaslit in that way, I really do, but in the end all it could ever have been was gaslighting. Sometimes you just have to rely on your gut to tell you, yes, they could have theoretically done it, but they absolutely fucking did not. The proper reaction was absolutely not to have an autistic fit, it was to step away for a little bit and properly take in what was actually being claimed, what it might mean, and conclude that it was a giant butthurt shitpost.

On that subject I'd like to remind everybody concerned with tranny janny tyranny that the specific sequence of events that let up to this was entirely preventable with basic common sense. There is no, absolutely no site where you can taunt the moderation and get away with it. People forget this on anonymous imageboards because it's easy to ban evade, but when you're a QM, you have a constant thread, and a constant identity. You're not anonymous anymore. You don't have the shitposter shield to troll mods anymore.
Obviously deleting the thread was a step too far, despite Swurn to Vulur's reputation as having a fanbase that made the threads a shitposting bickering cesspool, the core of a quest thread is the creative work and this was no different.

However.

Right after a massive controversy that caused a shit storm in qtg, while there's an (alleged) power tripping janny well known for attempting to deflect onto other people to try and bring the heat off them, while there's an incredible amount of attention on the thread- Forgotten posts his aggressively homosexual vengeance against somebody who he shouldn't have given a second thought to. Feeding the trolls is an interesting tactic, but whatever. Those posts get deleted and he gets banned. Whether or not you think that's worthy of a ban (I don't but that's beside the point) that should have been the end of it, but then Forgotten reposts what he was banned for.

And everybody's shocked that there was a reaction to this? Why, again? You all realize that this is a "ban me" message, and that on no forum has a ban me message ever been responded to with "alright I guess I'll back down." No. Use that wad of nerves and fatty tissue inside your skull. There's an incredibly obvious way to not draw the ire of moderation, and it's to not bait them into being your enemy. This is common fucking sense. If you're a young woman you don't walk down the alleys of Detroit at night alone in nothing but a g-string, and if you're on any website in existence and you don't want your posts deleted you don't bait the moderation. Moving sites won't change anything if Forgotten keeps up the same chuunibyou attitude towards even faggy mods.

>>4421587
tl;dr

>>4421516
Ah shit there's something I just remembered, LynxChan doesn't have a dice roller I don't think, the only imageboard software out there that has a really good dice rolling feature is Infinity Next, honestly if I had the money I'd just set up all this shit myself but sadly that isn't the case.

>>4421587
>they could have theoretically done it, but they absolutely fucking did not
The spammer proved they were doing it. They consecutively posted in the previous /qtg/ by cycling through 6 different IP addresses in a very short time. Perhaps you missed the demonstration? They probably didn't do it in the STV thread because it would have given away all their votes. I understand that it would be convenient if we could say "maybe he's just a random lying guy, nothing is proven" but unfortunately there is no doubt possible.

>>4421599
>The spammer proved they were doing it. They consecutively posted in the previous /qtg/ by cycling through 6 different IP addresses in a very short time. Perhaps you missed the demonstration?

No, I didn't. Did you miss the entire point of what I said? Demonstrating you *can* do it proves absolutely nothing. If I post a picture of my significantly above average size penis, that does not prove I had sex with your mother. The guy's claim was that, for years, *years*, he was behind every single contentious vote passing and he samefagged them all and that he's totally got twenty IPs.

Anon. No. He was not telling the truth. This isn't a question of "provide facts and evidence" this is just something you know based on interacting with people. People lie, and if the person they're lying to doesn't have experience with deceptive people, it doesn't take a lot of effort to fool them. If a person has malicious intent, then why in the world would they feel the need to tell the truth, if they think they can fool you? If you don't know how to identify malicious outrageous claims for what they are I don't know what to tell you, other than that because I have legs I have circumnavigated the world on foot twice, entirely to troll people who have to use wheelchairs. I am also a psychic.

You're free to have your doubts but your doubts are also silly.

>>4421587
You don't need to walk around restaurants. I have 2 smartphones and a laptop. I could easily use those to samefag if I wanted to. Someone having access to 6 internet capable devices isn't impossible

>>4421599
He didn’t demonstrate it on the stv thread because he was talking bullshit. I strongly believe that he got a few discord friends to post on his behalf on qtg and directed them to post as he ordered.

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...It's strange to be in a hobby for so long that issues sort of cycle around? Like, I recall the Princess Guard QM getting concerned with samefagging, and everyone was so paranoid people were joking about vote-by-mail. There were methods back then that people used to 'proof' against it, like strawpolls, using the duplicate-post prevention system and severe time limits, but since those were IP based, we all come back to the old problem:

If someone can swap IDs, and IF someone is in a place or has access to tech that lets them do that, then there's no stopping them from circumventing any IP-based voting system. Short of forcing everyone to trip the fuck up, which would remove the charm and soul of the imageboard, or using a forum, which has its own problems, there's no getting around it. If your quest is "famous" or "infamous" enough, people are either going to get so invested they'll go to the effort of samefagging to get what they want... or try to crash and burn the quest with your own prompts into stupid or silly shit, perhaps even using a writein prompt to do so.

I suppose you could keep an eye on your quest and try to eyeball for it, but that might result in butthurt anyway and CAUSE the problem when you disregard "obvious votestuffing". Maybe you could use offsite voting - IRC, maybe? - but that just leads us back to the problem of forums or trips.

I suppose for a lot of QMs, they just can sort of ignore the problem because ha ha who the fuck is gonna go to that effort for a shitty fanfic quest without even any canon characters ha ha ha

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Any interest in a Psyker quest?

>>4421609
4chan is still best for preventing samefagging because of its large existing list of banned proxies. Seriously, try downloading any vpn on desktop or mobile and you will find that the IP is unable to post on 4chan “due to abuse”.

>>4421607
If he could do the demonstration in the /qtg/ thread then he could do it in the /stv/ thread. The most logical explanation for why he didn't do the demonstration in the /stv/ thread is because it gave away information that he didn't want to give away, most likely, the information about which votes he influenced. He consistently refused to reveal that information. However there is no doubt whatsoever that he could spam under different IDs. The demonstration could have been done with discord friends, I agree, and the same friends could have been used to spam /stv/. It actually changes nothing whether we are dealing with one troll or a group of trolls, the result is the same.

>>4421575
To be Honest, if mandatory trips are off the table only solutions I can come up with are stuff I can see sliding into QM tyranny very quickly.
Acting like an english teacher and require 1 post id votes and writeins to have an 'essay' explaining their reasoning or they'll be discarded and toss out ones that are too similar and doesn't follow up if call it out. Let players vote for and against votes so long as they give reason why said vote is cancer.
Hopefully the more work you make them do to forge each vote the fewer they'll be able to get in.

>>4421614
The problem isn't proxies though, it's phoneposters.

>>4421609
Has anyone ever thought of Discord voting?

>>4421435
I'm not Emile. What about you tell everyone for one thread all voters must answer a fun question on their first vote. This can slow down samefags a little. It's very silly, but you can get to know your players this way too. You can have the questions be optional for future threads.

>>4421623
Yeah i can just switch to mobile data and bounce every 5-15 mins. Phone samefagging is a real problem.

>>4421624
How about posting a vocaroo recording to prove identity?

>>4421628
EUREKA! MS PAINT VOTING

>>4421611
Yes. Of course.

>>4421618
>The most logical explanation for why he didn't do the demonstration in the /stv/ thread is because it gave away information that he didn't want to give away, most likely, the information about which votes he influenced.

Well, the easy response to that is to cultivate an environment of paranoia - to cast a shadow over everything with as little effort as possible. Sure, at the time you didn't win that vote because the community didn't agree with you, but now, NOW, well, now it could have been vote stuffing!
And then the chain of reasoning goes on and on until finally the players decide, well, my vote doesn't matter, that one guy will get his way. And when that happens, he makes his smooth exit and the thread dies.

Or something like that. Or maybe he's just an agent of chaos and likes to watch arguments over issues that have come and gone and come again, over and over, with no clear answer. We may never truly know.

>>4421609
My suggest ---> >>4421626

>>4421627
Then the solution is simple. Disallow all 1id voters even if they linked to a previous post. Sucks if you have a dynamic IP but it is what it is.

All one post IDs past the start of the thread are forced to post fresh OC they have made about the quest in order to have their vote count.

>>4421634
Indeed. It is the simplest and clearest option and forgotten should at least consider it for the next few threads.

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>>4421266
Thank you so much dude! Seriously means a lot.

>>4421616
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>>4421616
Catalyst Quest has a BIG prompt, for our weekday update! (There will probably be more later this evening.) The rest of your journey to the capital will no doubt be filled with strife, friendship, and plenty of exploration. What pace would you prefer?

>>4421639
Based and memepilled

>What kind of quest would you like to see more often?

More rule based multi-civ games. I want to build a culture and pit it against other players and no other game will give me the creative freedom to scratch that itch.

All posters need to vocaroo their votes.

>>4421566
>>4421566
>>4421566

'Black Clover: Parallel Story' continues. Cynthia is paired with Alice against two other pairs of Magic Knights but so far, we haven't been able to assist or get lucky with using our magic properly.

>>4421440
Either you have plan or you will fail.

Forgotten posts an update, but he only allows players to reply with their votes at 2 different timezone hours. They have 1 minute to reply.

>>4421661
Doesn’t really work on a imageboard. Why do it on a discord or irc instead?

>>4421682
If you've never heard of a similar game why would you look for a discord or irc for it? That's the problem I have. Those platforms are insular and don't provide an opportunity for interested parties to lurk become invested and maybe start their own. It used to happen when the games were played on /tg/ but ever since the /qst/ split it's dried up immensely.

>>4421684
How about the discord server remains muted while the threads are alive? I don't know if discourd has a voting function but that would fix everything right? Discussion and updates here, votes on discord.

>>4421698
You don't really vote in a multi-civ. Everyone has a certain number of "actions" or things they can do every update and the GM compiles all of those actions into an update and modifies it based on dice rolls (if there are any) or situation. There isn't any voting on what to do next typically but maybe that could be a new format for those types of threads where there's only a few civ and multiple people run each one.

>>4421702
That was meant as a solution to the STV samefag issue. Your post gave me the idea but I got it mix up in the discussion.

>>4421630
How dead is the board usually right now? I have a few hours maybe

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I'm out of the loop but you are all doing a good job at keeping this place nice despite rudeposters.
This is a beary nice board.
Be proud of your stories.
good night

These "solutions" for samefagging don't actually stop samefags at all. If you really believe that fat loser is driving around to different coffee shops so he can keep up the charade and like he claimed and literally decide every vote he wanted to since BCQ. The only solution is having tighter voting windows. Short of starting your own fucking website and looking at ip traffic and trying to play detective. To epically dab on the samefag Forgotten posted a nsfw shitpost and the janny came in trigger happy. You then posted the same thing again and were banned. That isn't tranny janny abuse, it's just him being a faggot. Forgotten taking his toys and going to a different website changes absolutely nothing. There is no point, this is fucking stupid. Can't we just all hold our horses for like two seconds? Jesus.

>>4421720
4PM PST is good

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New North of Nowhere update at >>4422008.

This paper really writes itself.

>>4421869
Not trying to sound smart or anything but I dunno why nobody addresses my solution >>4421681, I think it's the optimal way to solve the samefag problem. Just open votes at, say, 16:00 EST and 06:00 EST or whatever timezone most euros have, and tell players to post their vote in exactly one of those hours, not earlier or later, otherwise it doesn't count. This greatly limits samefagging potential.

>>4420645
Unghghghhg daddy suggma cock

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Thread eight of GuP Quest is live! Join us as we get ever closer to the finals

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>>4422028
It’s not a bad solution too I think. Encourages people to discuss and make write in plans when the vote has not opened.

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Thread update for Daily Planet Quest

>>4422045

Choose the Hero.

>>4421380
>we have no banner
Didn't someone make some a while back?

>>4422212
We have a lot of options (I still have some compiled in an Imgur, let me know if you want them), some people have pestered mods, but I think they truly don't give enough of a shit to let us have one.