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“A Knight is Sworn to Valour. His Heart Knows Only Virtue. His Blade Defends the Helpless. His Might Upholds the Weak. His Word Speaks Only Truth. His Wrath Undoes the Wicked.”

Every child in Cantôn knows of the Knight’s Code. From peasant-born waifs playing with sticks in the mud to keen-eyed noble sons practicing with cold steel in the training yard, all have at the very least dreamed of one day becoming a knight themselves. To ride out on errantry into the Five Duchies Kingdom and beyond for God and Glory, bringing the Law of Adam to the wicked and the Blade of Cain to the beast.

The Knights of Cantôn are sworn to follow the Code, to obey the King, to refuse no call for aid honestly asked for, to seek out and destroy the Foe wherever it may lurk and rid the world of evil.

Were it so easy…

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>>4354356
FUR VULUUR
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Choo choo
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Many leagues to the East, in the Slithering Wastes and Montbrun borderlands

The scalies had been on their tail for days, ever since they picked up the last stragglers from Freetown, but it was that morning they finally closed the distance with Tracker Jean’s caravan. For the convoy, it was now less a question of whether they could shake the scalies off and more about choosing where they’d make their last stand. Jean had picked out a rocky outcrop with a commanding ridgeline over a steep approach. A nice spot for archers, but far from impregnable. Oh, well. It was good a place to die as any.

But it looked like even that choice was going to be denied to Tracker Jean and her caravan. The snakemen had caught them out on the steep approach up the ridge, trapping the convoy with its back against the steep rocky slope leading out of the killing ground. Snakemen weren’t exactly famed archers, but even the few they had were reaping a horrific toll on the crowded refugees and caravan hands. Their aim was terrible but at this range it hardly mattered to the packed crowd of caravan guards, refugees and horseflesh. The scream of horses and the pained cries of the wounded was already drowning out the hisses of the rapidly approaching scaled horde.
Tracker Jean, chewed her gum until it bled. She wondered if she should give up on their attempt to reach the top of the ridge and circle the caravans now. Probably too late even for that, in a few moments their slithering infantry frontrunners would be in among them between the wagons and it would be all over. Even a tactical novice knew that you’d need heavy infantry to have a hope in dry hell to stand up to the snakemen up close. Wastelanders were guerrillas and light cavalry, whenever they were inclined to some violence. Her people just didn’t do heavy infantry.

“Uh…Boss?”

“Looks like this is it, Berric. Some of us might get away, those ahorse at least. If we cut the Mustang stock loose and drive them around…”

“Boss!” Tracker Jean turned to the where her normally obedient orderly was pointing, covering her eyes at the sunlight streaming over the top of the ridgeline. The glint of the sun on metal proved to Jean that her spirits could indeed drop even further.

“Oh fuck me, you mean they’re already on the ridge above us?”

“I don’t think them scalies have that kind of cavalry…”

“Knights of the Broken Blade!” The knight, and Jean had met enough knights in her time to spot them, bellowed with the voice of a general commanding an army. “Form up on my lance and ready the charge!”

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All along the line, thinly spread but in a fantastic position uphill, the zealous knights echoed the commander’s calls and pull into formation. Although their leader had to be some great high-up noble by Jean’s reckoning, his force was barely two-score armoured horsemen. Not nearly enough to make a difference, but if anything, the galling odds they faced was having the opposite effect on the knight’s taste for a fight.

“Forming up the lance! Cain guide my blade!”

“A good day for martyrdom, brothers! Lance formed, ready to charge!”

“By the Saints, look at all those disgusting lizards! Let me at them!”

The leading figure in red and gold slammed down his visor, couched his lance and spurred his destrier onwards all in one motion. “For King and Saint Cain!”

“Cain! Cain! Cain!” The cry of the knights as they charged in unison down the ridgeline, so genuinely eager to close with a Foe that had them so sorely outnumbered, caused Tracker Jean to wonder whether these knights were half-mad or half-wits.

It was like something out of a stupid Cantôn children’s story. Emile Andrei had mentioned their kind, though the young boy-knight-slash-one-time-pillow-warmer had spoken of them with a kind of awe rather than the wariness sensible people reserved for the insane. Tracker Jean still thought them mad, but she had to admit that these lunatics in armour and on horseback can do a whole lot of damage when charging into an enemy downhill and in disarray.

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It was one of the craziest things Tracker Jean had ever seen in her life. Fourty lances tipped down in unison and one could see the naked terror in those repitilian eyes of the foremost snakemen facing their doom, miles from where anyone would expect to find Cantônian heavy cavalry. The Duke Montbrun’s knights didn’t patrol out this far in the Wastelands, nor in such numbers.

In a handful of seconds these battle-mad knight had slain twice their number and then some, the snakemen were reeling in confusion. But there were still many, many more snakemen. Hundreds. Too many for even the insane bravery of the knights to overcome.

"We should make a break for it. While them scalies is distracted." Berric was eyeing the melee warily as the knight's charge began to lose impetus, already an island of steel in a sea of scales. “Ain’t gonna get another chance like this, boss."

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>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]

>“Ah shit. Here goes my big payday… Turn ‘em around, slash those ropes and let’s crack some whips, boys!” The odds of losing some of your precious stock is very high. But nothing that walks or slithers in all the land can stand before a herd of stampeding Mustang purebreds, and only those mounted knights will be able to get out of the way. [Hearty]

>“Sounds like a plan to me. Let’s get these wagons moving, if we hustle we can be at the Torwatcher Gate before nightfall.” You’re not much of a believer of miracles, but you are the last girl to look a gift Mustang in the mouth. This is your only chance to make it to safety with all the stock and refugees safely in tow. [Cynic]
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>>4354368
>>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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>>4354368
>“Sounds like a plan to me. Let’s get these wagons moving, if we hustle we can be at the Torwatcher Gate before nightfall.” You’re not much of a believer of miracles, but you are the last girl to look a gift Mustang in the mouth. This is your only chance to make it to safety with all the stock and refugees safely in tow. [Cynic]
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>>4354368
>>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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>>4354368
>>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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>>4354368
>>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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>>4354368
>>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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>>4354368
>>“Sounds like a plan to me. Let’s get these wagons moving, if we hustle we can be at the Torwatcher Gate before nightfall.” You’re not much of a believer of miracles, but you are the last girl to look a gift Mustang in the mouth. This is your only chance to make it to safety with all the stock and refugees safely in tow. [Cynic]
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you know when i voted to go to the snake fields with these boys i did it because i thought it was the most important thing to do even though we could sent them to help our boy in canton I'm pleasantly surprised it in a round about way has helped us indirectly
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>>4354368
>Sounds like a plan to me. Let’s get these wagons moving, if we hustle we can be at the Torwatcher Gate before nightfall.” You’re not much of a believer of miracles, but you are the last girl to look a gift Mustang in the mouth. This is your only chance to make it to safety with all the stock and refugees safely in tow. [Cynic]
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>>4354368
>“Sounds like a plan to me. Let’s get these wagons moving, if we hustle we can be at the Torwatcher Gate before nightfall.” You’re not much of a believer of miracles, but you are the last girl to look a gift Mustang in the mouth. This is your only chance to make it to safety with all the stock and refugees safely in tow. [Cynic]
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hey forgotten lore wise who made the beasts of this world particularly the dragons and the fae was it the almighty
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>>4354368
>>“Sounds like a plan to me. Let’s get these wagons moving, if we hustle we can be at the Torwatcher Gate before nightfall.” You’re not much of a believer of miracles, but you are the last girl to look a gift Mustang in the mouth. This is your only chance to make it to safety with all the stock and refugees safely in tow. [Cynic]
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>>4354368

>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]

How 2 get as many players as forgotten.
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>>4354368
>>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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i wonder how many cain points grand master godriec has
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>>4354390
The Cantonian faith is uniquely monotheistic in this setting, even the Cathagi beleive that the Dragon is just 'their' living, breathing god rather than the only God.

According to Sir Andrei's faith, the Almighty crafted every blade of grass and every hair on every beast's head. That said, vile creatures such as snakefiends, beastmen and the Fae are merely further evidence that we live in a fallen world. It is up to to the faithful to reclaim it.
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>>4354368
>“Ah shit. Here goes my big payday… Turn ‘em around, slash those ropes and let’s crack some whips, boys!” The odds of losing some of your precious stock is very high. But nothing that walks or slithers in all the land can stand before a herd of stampeding Mustang purebreds, and only those mounted knights will be able to get out of the way. [Hearty]

If these knights survive...we can sell horses to them. Knights love good horses. Use the stampede as a selling point. Maybe loot the snakes. Losses can be recoup with connections and loots
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>>4354397
All of them
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>>4354398
>the Cantonian faith is uniquely monotheistic

Maenwhile in Carthaggi
>“all mockery of Cantonians and their one god shall be kept to an appropriate minimum”
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>>4354419
I need this

It IS exile-walking season after all
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>>4354368
>>“Ah shit. Here goes my big payday… Turn ‘em around, slash those ropes and let’s crack some whips, boys!” The odds of losing some of your precious stock is very high. But nothing that walks or slithers in all the land can stand before a herd of stampeding Mustang purebreds, and only those mounted knights will be able to get out of the way. [Hearty]

Horses can be recaptured but these knights are hard to replace. If they stay, they'll make future trips into the wilderness much safer.
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>>4354368
>>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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>>4354368
>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]

If the terrain is open flat ground, they should retreat, charge again, retreat again, charge, retreat, charge, etc whilst Jean's archers provide cover for their retreat. Cavalry throughout history used their superior mobility to charge numerically superior opponents multiple times in open flat terrain. This let them to inflict massive, massive damage. An example of this is the Battle of Klushino (4 July 1610) in which Polish forces numbering about 4,000 men (of which about 80 percent were the famous winged Polish hussars) defeated a numerically superior force of about 35,000–40,000 Russians. In battle many formations of hussar units charged 8 – 10 times.

The arrow fire from Tracker Jean's archers won't harm or have any effect on the Broken Blade knights thanks to their armour. However, their horses are another story unless they have barding like pic related. Besides, Tracker Jeans's archers are competent and have an advantageous high ground position. They'll know to concentrate their arrow fire on the Snakefiends who're not engaged in combat with the Broken Blade knights.
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>>4354368

>“Sounds like a plan to me. Let’s get these wagons moving, if we hustle we can be at the Torwatcher Gate before nightfall.” You’re not much of a believer of miracles, but you are the last girl to look a gift Mustang in the mouth. This is your only chance to make it to safety with all the stock and refugees safely in tow. [Cynic]

I think people forget we aren't playing Emile.
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>>4354368
>>“Ah shit. Here goes my big payday… Turn ‘em around, slash those ropes and let’s crack some whips, boys!” The odds of losing some of your precious stock is very high. But nothing that walks or slithers in all the land can stand before a herd of stampeding Mustang purebreds, and only those mounted knights will be able to get out of the way. [Hearty]
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>>4354458
Just to clarify, Jean ain't from Canton. The Knights would probably view her, a heretic outlander, as the next to get stabbed by their lances.
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>>4354465
Nah maybe some disparagement but it looks like humanity is in solidarity against the snekmen.
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>>4354458
Well gee, but that might be out of the question seeing all the refugees we picked up. [secret softy intensifies]
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>>4354368

>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]

Well this turned out better than expected.
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>>4354368
>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]

We already stablish that while Tracker Jean is in it for the profit and challenge she is not careless with the lifes of other people. She is not going to risk all her hard work on a mad charge either but should be willing to help.
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>>4354368
>>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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>>4354368
>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]

wwqq
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>>4354368
>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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>>4354368
>“Sounds like a plan to me. Let’s get these wagons moving, if we hustle we can be at the Torwatcher Gate before nightfall.” You’re not much of a believer of miracles, but you are the last girl to look a gift Mustang in the mouth. This is your only chance to make it to safety with all the stock and refugees safely in tow. [Cynic]
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>>4354368
>“Ah shit. Here goes my big payday… Turn ‘em around, slash those ropes and let’s crack some whips, boys!” The odds of losing some of your precious stock is very high. But nothing that walks or slithers in all the land can stand before a herd of stampeding Mustang purebreds, and only those mounted knights will be able to get out of the way. [Hearty

Oh yer timw to unless the hoard, we can always get more and make money other ways but you need to be alive to make moneys. Seems the easiest way to make that happen.
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>>4354368
>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
Death to the lizards!
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>>4354368
>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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>>4354368
>>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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>>4354368
>“Ah shit. Here goes my big payday… Turn ‘em around, slash those ropes and let’s crack some whips, boys!” The odds of losing some of your precious stock is very high. But nothing that walks or slithers in all the land can stand before a herd of stampeding Mustang purebreds, and only those mounted knights will be able to get out of the way. [Hearty]
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>>4354465

The Wastelanders aren't heretics, especially since Mustangs are practically revered in Canton.

>>4354368

>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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>>4354368
>>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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>>4354476
> whoever is played becomes Emile 2.0
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>>4354394
Make a good quest and not ditch like every other fucking qm.
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>>4354732
Also a good tip is t do another great quest beforehand and show you are committed and capable of finishing a quest in style without shitting the bed or disappearing. This way you can add your old playerbase to a new one
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>>4354394
Focus on making a good quest and not getting players.
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>>4354368
>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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>>4354458
>Only option I pick is something character would do all of the others are wrong
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>>4354859
Nah, they're valid options because Forgotten had written them as so. But it leads to playing a very similar character. Moreso when we only get a Jean choice every once in a while.

I would rather vote the Heart option than the Haughty, as it seems more in line with a merchant, though.
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>>4354859
I guess I would have rather had the Haughty write-in tie it into "Not letting others pay for my escape" or some other relation to her identity as an eastern barbarian or something. The way the write-in was done made it feel way too much like Emile's "Fuck you I fight who I want, dost a Knigga not know how to dance in the dueling ring" Haughty options.
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>>4354905
Something other than going from "These Kniggas are crazy for CainCo-Puffs" to "Fucking ponces, let's show them up"

Anyways. It's just my personal opinion so w/e people gonna vote how they vote.
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>>4354368
Welcome back Forgotten! I hope your new job is going well, happy to see you writing again so soon.
I'd go with
>“Ah shit. Here goes my big payday… Turn ‘em around, slash those ropes and let’s crack some whips, boys!” The odds of losing some of your precious stock is very high. But nothing that walks or slithers in all the land can stand before a herd of stampeding Mustang purebreds, and only those mounted knights will be able to get out of the way. [Hearty]
Because Haughty, like >>4354911 said, it doesn't really make sense with how her POW feels, to me. Cynic on the other hand I could see Jean also going for, but just feels a bit too heartless. Also if the snakemen slaughter the knights, who says they cannot reach us before we get to safety?
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>>4354368
>“Ah shit. Here goes my big payday… Turn ‘em around, slash those ropes and let’s crack some whips, boys!” The odds of losing some of your precious stock is very high. But nothing that walks or slithers in all the land can stand before a herd of stampeding Mustang purebreds, and only those mounted knights will be able to get out of the way. [Hearty]
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>>4354368
>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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>>4355133
I haven’t left just yet, that is a few weeks out. This thread might the last in some time.
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>>4355338
Oh no.

I am so gonna miss our threads.
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>>4354368
>>“Owe my life to a Cantônian ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]
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>>4355338
Ahh man, well I wish you good luck with that new gig anyways. Very happy to contribute this time! (I missed a few threads haha)
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>>4355338
Your going to leave us on the boat arnt you.
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>>4355471
He's gonna Donovan us.
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>>4355471
>.
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>>4355338
Are you going to pull a Berserk on us? Fucking boats man
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Kniggas, do not be afraid. Forgotten's track record of consistent, timely updates is way, way above the quality of most QMs. I am sure he doesn't intend on giving up on this quest and when DOES run on a new schedule, he will do so at a time where the updates are at least consistent. Have some faith kniggas. Have faith.
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>>4355685
For real, dude ran a whole epic quest to completion, even when we fucked his plans over and took away his war machines. I don't see the ride ending without satisfaction
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>>4354368
>>“Ah shit. Here goes my big payday… Turn ‘em around, slash those ropes and let’s crack some whips, boys!” The odds of losing some of your precious stock is very high. But nothing that walks or slithers in all the land can stand before a herd of stampeding Mustang purebreds, and only those mounted knights will be able to get out of the way. [Hearty]
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>>4355685
Anyone that's been a follower of his quests for a while already know that he's pretty much the best QM to bless this board.
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>End up stuck on the boat to carthaggi
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>>4355721
What would a canton idol group look like
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>>4355687
>Muh Albani Warmachines
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>>4355770
>muh kids :'(
You reap what you sow bucko
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>>4355769
Spoony knights
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>>4355788
>The idol group is called Queen.

What have you done.
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>>4355792
>its lead by a Carthaggi pilgrim
>who is spoonysexual

What needed to be done
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>“Owe my life to a Canton ponce? I’d rather kiss a rattlesnake. Get the boys up on the ridge there, let’s see how the scalies like it when we shoot back.” The thick armour of the argent knights should protect them. Should. Even with your help, it’s going to be a close run thing. [Haughty]

Call it Wastelander stubbornness, call it a hate of the scalies that were chewing up her family’s territory. For whatever reason, cutting and running just didn’t sit well with Tracker Jean at that moment. With a commanding position at the top of the ridge, and no shortage of targets to choose from, the fire from Tracker Jean’s archers and slingers was having a withering effect on the swarming mass of scalies below. No volleys, Wastelanders were an individualistic people and tended to call their shots as they saw them. With their heavy armour, the odds of aEven the barding on their horses, an item Tracker Jean would have called a useless encumbrance if she ever saw one, now seemed to be a very pertinent piece of equipment indeed. If any of the knights or their horses went down because of her people’s arrows, Jean didn’t see it.

With the scalefiends distracted, some breaking away from the melee to rush up the ridge itself, the knights were able to extract themselves from the main crush largely in one piece. Tracker Jean didn’t reckon this barmy lot as the kind to hit it and quit it, and sure enough formation turned as one for another charge. Some still had their lances, unbroken from the last sally, but most were now relying on their prodigious horseflesh and drawn blades to exact a further toll on the foe. Their leader, the knight in gold and red mounted on a startlingly beautiful white Mustang, must have had his helmet torn off at one point. Nevertheless the shaven-headed madman fought on with wild abandon, bringing his mace crashing down into one scaled opponent after another.

[1/2]
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[2/2]

Tearing her eyes away from the scene, Tracker Jean nearly tripped over a corpse on her last sprint to cover. Her trusted man Berric already lay there, a lucky scalefiend shot having taken him right through the eye. Tracker Jean sighed, a deep melancholy settling in as she fitted and loosed an arrow straight into the throat of the closest scaly clambering up the ridge.

It looked like today was going to be a very long day indeed.

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The battle will be long and bloody, though the caravan itself will survive intact along with the tethered Mustang stock. The profit margins of the investors are secured, but heavy casualties to both the Wastelanders and the Order of the Broken Blade will have an adverse effect on their operating capability in the years to come.

>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]

>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]
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>>4356061
oh goddamn
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Rolling for the Duke’s Ball

The Duke’s Ball rolls will commence 24 hours from now, with the next four days covering the interactions from each arena. I will call for rolls for one arena (i.e. 3 selected interactions +1 counter-intrigue), and then write-up how the results for that arena played out and post them the next day.

I would like everyone to have a fair chance to participate in the rolls of this event, so in the interests of giving everyone a fair go each ID can only roll ONCE in each arena. So you can roll for an interaction each in the Courtyard, Banquet, Dance Floor and Ballroom but NOT more than one interaction in each arena. That seems like a decent way to spread out the rolls a little to me. I will NOT be accepting 1 Post ID rolls, I think everyone has had opportunity enough to participate in the first vote of the thread. Re-rolls can be used at the initial rollers discretion, with the assumption that regenerated re-rolls are used first. Any call by the initial roller to use a Save (not a re-roll) will be put to a flash vote.

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Sandag, 4th Day of Acrimun, 883 A.C.E., Port Bounty – Evening

The Duke of Pascae’s 198th Annual Ball


Vote Results

Palace Grounds
3 interactions (+0DC), +1 Counter-Intrigue
-Lord Jeremiah de Broulert [Persuade]
-Sir Robert Gilbern [Perusade]
-Sir Bartholomew Wavell [Persuade]
*Lord Jeremiah de Broulert [Counter-Intrigue]
Banquet Hall
3 interactions (+0DC), +1 Counter-Intrigue
-Captain Torres Lorenzo [Intrigue]
-The Patrikas Ianthe [Persuade]
-Lady Brunhilde Rabe [Persuade]
*Sir Marco Hewitt [Counter-Intrigue]
Dance Floor
3 interactions (+0DC), +1 Counter-Intrigue
-Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny [Courtship]
-Princess Antoinette Aubres [Courtship]
-Lady Frida Vancewell [Courtship]
The Patrikas actually beat Vancewell here, but the Patrikas had many more votes for the Banquet Hall arena
*Lady Frida Vancewell [Counter-Intrigue]
Ballroom
3 interactions (+0DC), +1 Counter-Intrigue
-Bishop Dominos Gilbern [Persuade]
-Crown Prince Lionel Aubres [Persuade]
-Duke Leonardo Pascae [Persuade]
*Lord Caspian Gilbern [Counter-Intrigue]
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>>4356064
In case my format wasn't clear, I am asking anons to vote on which of the two dire consequences occur. Though in either case both the Wastelanders and Broken Blade will suffer casualties.
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>>4356061
Oh dammit.
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>>4356069
I was aware, you're a fucking bastard of a QM Forgotten

I love you for it give me those BCQ feel

>>4356061
>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]
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>>4356061
>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]
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>>4356069
OH. It absolutely wasnt clear.

Damn. This is a terrible decision but.
>>4356061
>>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]

I hate this but The Grandmaster is a much more needed figure here.

I hope with how Jean managed to save a large number of refugees, she will be taken cared of. Or still be able to do some work.
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>>4356061
>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]
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>>4356065
For Lady Vancewell and Lord de Broulert will the Counter-Intrigue roll be affected by the results of the previous interaction?
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>>4356061
>>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]

Canton needs the Broken Blade much more than the wastelanders. Still hope for the best for Jean.

CAIN IN THE HILLS
CAIN IN THE MOUNTAINS
CAIN! CAIN! CAIN!
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>>4356061
You’re a right bastard forgotten
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>>4356088
Of course!
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>>4356097
If we had released the horses, they'd both be in fine condition?
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>>4356098
Yes, though losing the value of your investment in Tracker Jean's caravan would have been a real possibility. Or at least any chance of a meaningful profit.
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>>4356061
>>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]
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>>4356099
How many wastelanders were saved? And what happens to them now?
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>>4356099
I suspect for most anons that would be worth it but well no use complaining about it now
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>>4356061
>>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]
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>>4356061
I TOLD Y'ALL. I TOLD Y'ALL TO LET THOSE MUSTANGS GO, BUT YOU COPPER CLIPPERS WANTED YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO
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>>4356099
given this is the alternative it may have been worth it.

we're gonna have to carry that weight though especially if the situation with Prime serpent worsens
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>>4356061
>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]

>>4356099
Fuck
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>>4356061
>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]
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>>4356061
>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]
Every holy knight seeks martyrdom but Jean doesn't deserve to live the rest of her life crippled.
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>>4356061
>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]

What do you call a Tracker without legs? Legless Jean
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>all these votes for Goddric

Hope you're all ready for war of the borders 2:Electric boogaloo Bring the suffering
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>>4356061
>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]
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>>4356061
>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]

God demmit people , if only could have let your coppers clipper ways gone this wouldnt have happened.

>>4354584
This is me.
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>>4356061
>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]
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>>4356061
>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]

I'm going with this because this is what Grandmaster Godric would want. He'd wish for nothing more than to die a martyr's death while fighting.

Both the Prime Serpent's ambitions and power will be significantly reduced for quite some time after suffering this terrible defeat. This means that while the Broken Blade Order won't be able launch any offensive actions against the Prime Serpent for some time, the Prime Serpent in turn won't be able to launch any offensive actions for sometime too until he's recovered from this terrible loss. That will allow the Order of the Broken Blade time to replenish themselves and be ready once they're needed.
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Rolled 10 (1d100)

I clip the coppers
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>>4356109
And this is way copperclipers must hang.
>>4356099
For me at lest that profit was just a side thing and a buy in for the best horses around.
Did you put the vancewell there over the Exile so you can laugh at us when we fuck up?
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>>4356061
>>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]
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>>4356146
I think the that it would be a better story for him if the grandmaster died having a 1v1 with the Prime Serpent.
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THAT MONEY IS GOING INTO REPARATIONS FOR THE DECEASED. ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS A COPPER CLIPPER
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>>4356161
I don't think any of us honestly expected when we made that deal that it would end up as a potential sacrifice to mitigate either the fight against the Prime serpent or losing someone we cared about.

>>4356164
I agree with the sentiment not the phrasing
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>>4356164
>>4356173
Fark off with you bleeding hearts. If that money is being used for anything it’s gonna be spent on protecting Andrei and friends
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>>4356177
I mean it depends on if or when Emille learns of it for me personally.

right now Emille and companions and number 1 priority for wealth spending
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>>4356164
Nah man I'm keeping all the money
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>>4356146
>sometime

Some time*

Another thing I would like to add is that the Order of the Broken Blade is the largest order in all of Canton, larger than the Knights Comitas and the Order Reginae. They do not lack for numbers and certainly won't after just losing forty lances including Grandmaster Godric.

>>4356163
I think Jerome St. Thomas would be worthy of that too. The Order of the Broken Blade have already elected and selected a worthy, prepared candidate to become the next grandmaster in the future.

>>4356164
I definitely agree and support. They gave their lives to make sure the caravan's cargo was brought safely. I would vote and choose to help them in any way we can as it would be a cunt move to just take the money and go.

>>4356104
>>4356111
For me it would've been worth it. I just didn't realize the result for the Haughty choice of the vote was going to be pre-determined. I would've voted for Heart if I did.
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>>4356061
>>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]
Time to suit up and join the broken blade.
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>>4356061
>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]
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>>4356061
>>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]

>>4356177
I agree with this sentiment

First post of the thread but I'm not looking through the previous one to find my IP, feel free to discard it
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>>4356195
>>4356200
You both are 1 post ids so it cancels out anyhow.
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>>4356202
I don't fully understand that rule, does this second post validate my previous post?
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>>4356061
>>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]
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>>4356189
It looks like the quality of their leadership may suffer weither thats a lose of leadership, Zealotry or another quality remains to be seen.

I wonder what Jerome st. Thomas would be like.

>>4356200
New thread no need to quote old Id's unless forgotten's asking for them.
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>>4356202
got to get a first post in at some point.
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>>4356189
>Heart

Hearty*

>>4356205
>It looks like the quality of their leadership may suffer weither thats a lose of leadership, Zealotry or another quality

Yeah agreed.

>I wonder what Jerome st. Thomas would be like.

Me too.

>>4356065
Hey Forgotten. In the end of the last thread you said that given the sheer number and quality of the write-ins made for the Duke's Ball interactions, you will pick and choose from the multitude of write-ins for what you feel will net us the most advantage. Can you tell us which ones were picked and chosen?
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>>4356061
>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]
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>>4356061

>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]

Welp. This is something
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>>4356065
why was Roselyn beat out by Duke Pascae?
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>>4356234 this >>4354481 is me. Bloody I'd changing
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>>4356173
Idk way we didnt think something like this would happen as it is a forgotten quest and there can only be pain.

>>4356189
They probs used to be the largest order when cain was leading them, but now it seems they have lost alot of members if all they had to thow at the snakes was 40 and they choseing there next gm from among those that wore apart of that fight. They dont have unlimited numbers like you seem to think.

You voted for Haughty becouse you wanted jean to have a cool last stand moment and save all the money.
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>>4356242
well why is easy, we didn't know the prime Serpent was on the rise then and while we knew snakemen was a thing we clearly didn't know them as anything but a faraway nuisance.

We should have realised something larger was at play when they were at the Banquet but hindsight is 20/20 I guess.
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>>4356242
>The Order of the Broken Blade
>The largest of the Holy Orders and the most aggressive...
Faith & Politics; 139
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>>4356061
>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]
There's no greater honor for him than this.
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>>4356061
>>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]

I'm really interested in this Grandmaster character, he's a total badass and I'd like him to survive. I think he has potential to become a force to reckon in the future. (the guy litterally has the balls to behead the favorite of the Queen because he simply doesn't like him)
Alas I think most anons will want Tracker Jean to get out of this situation alive (because muuuh waifu) and will sacrifice Godric.
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>>4356061
>>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]
1 post ID so not sure if this counts.
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>>4356242
>They probs used to be the largest order when cain was leading them, but now it seems they have lost alot of members if all they had to thow at the snakes was 40 and they choseing there next gm from among those that wore apart of that fight. They dont have unlimited numbers like you seem to think.

Check the Faith & Politics pastebin.

>You voted for Haughty becouse you wanted jean to have a cool last stand moment and save all the money.

Not true whatsoever. Guess again.
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>>4356263
Well, the thread just started, you have to be a 1 post ID at some point.
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>>4356061
>>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]
The world needs Grandmaster Godric more than it needs Jean.
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>>4356248
Still dont think they are as big as you think they are, as im sure that the grandmaster would have taken as many as he could to go argest the snakes.
Not like cain numbers and most ordos dont have that many numbers to start with.
How many do you think they are?
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>>4356282
Great question
>... the Order of the Broken Blade can call upon over 200 knights, and twice that in well-equipped man-at-arms, more than most lords.
That's a lot of third, fourth, and fifth sons.
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>>4356282
this was almost certainly a vanguard force, maybe one sent to safeguard refugees fleeing the Snakeman advance, the bulk of the Order could likely be garrisoned in or near the Torwatcher gate if they aren't already on the field.

I just realised if they've called upon the majority of their order in this endeavor Romanie may be more than a little Vulnerable.
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>>4356265
I havent read that in ages so il go read it durning my lunch break. Still though if you had hundereds of people to call on for this then y wouldnt you? Using just 40 lancers is silly unless he wanted to die.

I mean if you wanted to vote for the option that had the best chance for everyone you would have voted to unless the horse's.
Im not playing the guseing game so you can tell my way you voted for it if it wasnt for greed or bloodlust.

Though ima stop going on about this as its done and im kinda just bitching, hope that the ball gose better.
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>>4356312
>I havent read that in ages so il go read it durning my lunch break. Still though if you had hundereds of people to call on for this then y wouldnt you? Using just 40 lancers is silly unless he wanted to die.

Who knows? We'll find out soon from the Broken Blade themselves.

>I mean if you wanted to vote for the option that had the best chance for everyone you would have voted to unless the horse's.
Im not playing the guseing game so you can tell my way you voted for it if it wasnt for greed or bloodlust.

I voted for Haughty because I thought the results for the choice picked were gonna be determined by rolls. I would've voted for Hearty if I knew that Haughty was gonna have a pre-determined result since I would get a good idea of what sort of pre-determined result Haughty was going to be.
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>>4356335
>Broken Blade themselves.

Broken Blade members themselves*

>the results for the choice picked were

The result for the picked choice was*

>would get

Would've gotten*

I seriously need to proofread more often. My grammar is terrible.
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>>4356061
>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]
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>>4356061
>>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]
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>>4356061
>>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]
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>>4356061
>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]
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>>4356335
I dont think we have ever done rolls for something that wasn't to do with the person we playing as or in the same battle.
I too was woundering if a roll would happen.

>>4356293
>>4356297

>... the Order of the Broken Blade can call upon over 200 knights, and twice that in well-equipped man-at-arms, more than most lords.
where did you find this as its not in the Faith & Politics Pastebin: it just says they are the largest not how many they got.

Romanie should be fine for a short time with all the lords fighting, isnt it time that the dead went back to the Ile for a rest soon?

Still each of theis lancers are rocking close to 10 welth each in gear even if 10 died thats about 100 wealth.

If the grandmaster dies and there a snake hord on its way down would you all vote for us to go foght them over joing the dragon
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>>4356442
>I dont think we have ever done rolls for something that wasn't to do with the person we playing as or in the same battle.

Actually, we did. We had a roll with the knight stationed at a crossing in the desert.
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>>4356451
Do not rember this.
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>>4356451
>>4356463
It was a dream sequence and technically that was Emile
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>>4356463
https://archived.moe/qst/thread/4021592/#q4023680

>>4356465
I think It was a vision of one of Emile's ancestors, not Emile himself.
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>>4356473
>>4356465
Ooohh i rember now, thats probs y i wasnt counting that towards the not rolling for people rolls.
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>>4356442
It is in Faith & Politics. I lifted that bit from the [Holy Orders] section where the Broken Blade and Sacred Grove are referenced to show general differences in order size and scope. Line 117 if you want to follow up.

I'm all for anything that doesn't require making a contract with known slavers for several years.
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>>4356061
>>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]

Sorry old man I just couldn't do that to her

>>4354531
me
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I wonder if there are other types of beastmen besides snakes.
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>>4356061
>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]
oh that was a vote, my bad
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>>4356573
They're are not beastmen. They're scalefiends.
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>>4356061
>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]

The crusade into the wastes will ultimately save more lives

>>4354588
Linking previous ID if changed
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>>4356061
>>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]
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>>4356061
>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]

I don't see Knights letting civvies get chumped for them.
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>>4356061
>>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]
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>>4356665
With your choices, much more civilians will die in the future.
Hell, picking Jean here doesn't even make her die, she is still alive but simply injured while killing the grandmaster is defunitive and will have a real negative impact on the war with snakesmen.

Really, I don't understand the choice of those who choose to let the Grandmaster die. It's waifu nonsense.
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>>4356061
>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]
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>>4356679
Y'all don't know the future. Letting people die now for sure to maybe save future people?

How do you know that without traders, the Knights don't become unablw to function at all?

Look at what happened to France when they ran out of cash, and ended up occupied by the English. Even then, if the Burgundians hadn't switched sides and stopped funding the English French independence never would have happened.
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>>4356679
It's not waifu nonsense. We just crippled too many girls in forgotten's quests for a lifetime.
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>>4356061
>>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]
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>>4356164
Nah senpai, she knew the dangers and she chose to take on the extra people slowing the caravan down. None of that is on Emile
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>>4356729
No but that is on us and if we people had chosen to let the horses go this wouldnt even be a choice right now.
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>>4356738
Us yes, but not Emile. We play as Emile but Emile wasn't the character who made the choices and he shouldn't suffer for it. Its all about playing in character.

>if we people had chosen to let the horses go this wouldnt even be a choice right now.

And we didn't, we played Jean as a ruthless wasterlander who cares a great deal about her mustangs and her profits over the lives on some Cantonian knights. But that's not Emiles problem, nor his fault.
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>>4356738
Tracker Jean made that decision anon, not Emile, not some esoteric "we", and judging from the option that was picked it was out of some sense of pride
And her employees that died consciously accepted to be paid to take part in these risky expeditions, sometimes it doesn't work out, that's life
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>>4356744
I wouldnt call her 100% ruthlessly as she did take on the people she found in the wastes instead leaving them there.

And i naver talked about emiles having anything to do with her at all so so i dont know way his getting brought in.

>>4356746
Tracker Jean made that decision??? Uuumm how did she? We voted on what she was going to do as shes a made up character and can only do what forgoten makes her do based on the stuff we talk/vote on so how is this all her fult then? Unless your reftering to her back story of beening a wastland trader?
Did she become self aware at some point?
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>>4356744
Would Emile copper clip or spend his money that Knights and civilian died for so he can have it? If we are REALLY playing the character, Emile would definitely give it to the needy and their families..
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>>4356729
Nah, it's actually on the muderhobos and copper clippers like this one here>>4354381 who didn't want to lose Emile's investments or just simply wanted to murderhobo. We have this choice right now because of that, not because Jean took on extra people.

>>4356744
And we didn't, we played Jean as a ruthless wasterlander who cares a great deal about her mustangs and her profits over the lives on some Cantonian knights

We didn't actually. Had we played Jean as a ''ruthless wasterlander who cares a great deal about her mustangs and her profits over the lives on some Cantonian knights'', then we would've gone with Cynic. We picked Haughty because we didn't want to lose Emile's investments and because we wanted to help the Broken Blade knights so they won't die here.
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>>4356771
>I wouldnt call her 100% ruthlessly

Nor would I, no one is 100% anything but people of the wastelands are hard, ruthless people as is necessary to survive.

> And i naver talked about emiles having anything to do with her at all so so i dont know way his getting brought in.

>Naver

But seriously, its getting brought up because you argued against keeping the money for Emile due to the fact that we as players made the choice to hold on to the horses and fight. The choices we as players make for Jean shouldn't influence the choices we make for Emile. Emile didn't hold on to the mustangs, Jean did. Therefore any decision about keeping the profits from our investments should not take into consideration what we as players chose for Jean.

>>4356772
>Would Emile copper clip or spend his money that Knights and civilian died for so he can have it? If we are REALLY playing the character, Emile would definitely give it to the needy and their families..

It sort of depends I think. Obviously it'll only be a consideration if Jean tells us about it. If that happens I can see him having sympathy and donating the money, he's shown a lot of empathy obviously but he does occasionally show haughtiness and callousness for those beneath him. He may, in the moment, decide that Wastelanders dying to protect some horses is both foolish and something they signed up for, something they knew the risks of. Not super likely I admit.

>>4356773
Very subtle of you to link my post and call it murder hoboing. I didn't pick that option to be a "Murderbhobo". I picked it because it made sense for me in character for what Jean would do. She's spoken at length about the mustangs and about how harsh and difficult life is out there. I saw her as a person who would fight for that and ensure she didn't lose her stock.

>We have this choice right now because of that, not because Jean took on extra people.

It was specifically pointed out when Jean made the choice to take on extra people that it would slow the caravan down and add extra risk, likely ensuring that the scalepeople would catch up so...

>We didn't actually. Had we played Jean as ... blah blah

Look, you seem upset but the choices were made and obviously we each have our own take on why it happened. I wasn't even thinking about Emiles investment when I voted because I had forgotten entirely that we'd made any investment with her.
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>>4356772
Anon, he's just using post ad hoc to justify going with Haughty for the purpose of keeping Emile's cargo. Jean, the Wastelanders, and the knights would have gotten out of this alive safe and sound if we had just chosen to dump the Mustangs on the snakefiends. We didn't because we didn't want to lose Emile's precious investments as that would've been the only thing we were going to lose by going Hearty.
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>>4356842
Yeah you definitely seem a bit upset. Maybe go have a nice warm milk and a lay down. I didn't even remember Emile had investments in the mustangs
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>>4356819
>I picked it because it made sense for me in character for what Jean would do. >She's spoken at length about the mustangs and about how harsh and difficult life is out there. I saw her as a person who would fight for that and ensure she didn't lose her stock.


Nah, you picked it because you didn't want to lose Emile's money pure and simple. This shit is just post ad-hoc.

>It was specifically pointed out when Jean made the choice to take on extra people that it would slow the caravan down and add extra risk, likely ensuring that the scalepeople would catch up so...

Which has absolutely nothing with why we have this choice right now. We have this choice because we voted not to sacrifice Emile's investments even if it would have guaranteed the safety of both Jean and the knights, not because we took extra people. Switch going Haughty with going to Hearty and we wouldn't be here.

>Look, you seem upset but the choices were made and obviously we each have our own take on why it happened. I wasn't even thinking about Emiles investment when I voted because I had forgotten entirely that we'd made any investment with her.

I don't believe you for one millisecond.
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>>4356061
>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]

Damn you all greedy copper clippers to the pit.
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>>4356870
>Nah, you picked it because you didn't want to lose Emile's money pure and simple. This shit is just post ad-hoc.

Oh well I guess you know me better than I know myself, that's cool.

I'm going to stop reading right here because obviously you're one post from having a temper tantrum and I honestly don't care what your opinions are on the choices I've made. If I wanted to protect the investments, I'd have said so. The choice has already been made so it makes little difference. This conversation isn't going to get us anywhere but banned from future choices so I suggest we drop it
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>>4356881
>This conversation isn't going to get us anywhere but banned from future choices so I suggest we drop it

Forgotten should focus on ''banning'' the samefags in this quest rather than people who argue.

>>4356880
>Damn you all greedy copper clippers to the pit.

It ain't just copper clippers mate. It's copper clippers and murderhobos. Hearty meant no murderhoboing and losing Emile's dosh. Copper clippers didn't want the latter and murderhobos didn't want the former.

The anon I replied to above tried to justify it with some ad-hoc nonsense about how it is IC for Jean because she is ruthless (even both of the choices we had with her go against this) and cares about Mustangs (Common all over the Wasteland and not rare whatsoever) and her profits (even though they're the investor's profits like Emile and not her's) over the lives of the knights (even though she aided them in the battle rather than go Cynic to just leave them to die and save her own skin).

>>4356061
>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]
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>>4356061
>>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]

This sucks but the order is needed more.
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>>4356061

>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]

A wonderful time to return from vacation, just in time to pick between Western waifu or Grandmaster Deus Vult. Sucks, but the Wastelanders were likely to be horribly ravaged regardless, with the difference being HOW horribly ravaged.
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>>4356061
>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]
fuck that's harsh
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>>4356061
>trackr jean :(
Ohshit better get my postcount up
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>>4356061
>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]
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>All this 1id posters who never voted before.
Hmmmmmm
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>>4357254
>2 chances to vote
>1 post ID
big brain time.
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>>4357254
I feel like these comments are Mads about every vote

Do you really think there is that much samefagging going on?
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>>4357255
>1 (one) whole day to vote the first time

>>4357260
I truly do. It wasn't just once that someone was caught samefagging on this quest.
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>>4357260
I don't think its out of the ballpark of possibility, however its impossible to really prove so theirs really not much point in complaining as all it does is produce a shitshow that we should be better than.
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>>4357260
I know that this vote has more voters than usual. For most of the previous threads we usually log ~30 votes for day long votes. The final ball vote had 32 votes. This one has 40+ votes already. Suspicion is warranted.
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>>4357266
>Well let's just hope that they aren't samefagging and that people have some form of integrity on an Indonesian basket weaving form.
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>>4357254
Not bothering to samefag, too much effort. Either way, one vote burnt out here counts as a post for the next set of votes, so whatever. This one's going to be pretty loaded regardless, and I'd rather have my next ready to go when it comes to not fucking up all our interactions at the ball.
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Pray to RNGesus for his blessing during these upcoming votes, we're going to need it!
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>>4357289
>not Salve RNGenia

Heathen detected
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>>4357254
I'm sure this terribly contentious vote is gonna be fair.

It's not like accusations of copper-clipping are flying about.
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>Grandmaster Godric St. John found martyrdom on the dusty plains of the Wastelands that day. Jerome St. Thomas would come to lead the Broken Blade, though the Order’s ability to further frustrate the ambitions of the Prime Serpent would be much reduced. [Godric St. John]

This an unfortunate example where removing the 1 post IDs without a prior linked vote results in a different result than the base count (though still by a narrow margin). If you have just joined the thread and this means your choice was not selected, I apologise. Removing new IDs from the count is the best weapon available to me as QM to ensure that votes are not samefagged to oblivion. I will not call a flash vote because I think it's time to get cracking on the Duke's Ball rolls.

As others have pointed out, these forty knights are a vanguard of the Broken Blade. Even if every single one was slain it would not doom the order, though losing the cream of the crop of their holy knights would be a staggering blow indeed.
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>>4357391
F
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>>4357391
Alrighty bring the suffering of a weakened broken blade order then.

Hype for Ball shenannigans
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>>4357391
hoes before bros

DISGUSTING
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Sandag, 4th Day of Acrimun, 883 A.C.E., Port Bounty – Evening
The Duke of Pascae’s 198th Annual Ball

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvFH_6DNRCY - Palace Grounds Arena theme

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I do not view it as possible, even with a genuine apology and persuasive charisma, to actually obtain Lord de Broulert’s sincere forgiveness for the death of his favourite son. That said, this roll will be more aimed at making an impression on those watching you in the courtyard and your handling of social etiquette.

The Palace Grounds: Persuasion Roll – Lord Jeremiah de Broulert
> Reasonable Request (public apology) / Lower Social Standing
> 40DC
> Wealth +5DC
> Fashionable Attire +5DC, +1 Re-Roll
> Write-in (apology) +10DC
> Save Face +1 Save (single use)
> Foreign escort (-0DC)
> Lord de Broulert: Noble Privilege, +1 Adverse Re-Roll
> Lord de Broulert: Fashionable Attire -5DC, +1 Adverse Re-Roll
> Lord de Broulert: Wealth -5DC
> 50DC

Double Fail = Lord de Broulert would see you destroyed. Vengeance will be his.
0 = Although your intentions may be sincere, your delivery is clumsy and could even be viewed as a crass attempt to rub your victory in a grieving father’s face. Lord de Broulert will jump on this chance to denounce you. -20DC to Counter-Intrigue in this arena. -5DC to interactions with those of Pascae origin.
1 = Such an apology was always going to be awkward, and open to inflammatory remarks. Lord de Broulert is not dissuaded from his goal of seeing you ridiculed for your part in his son’s death. Counter-Intrigue attempt in this arena will continue as normal.
2 = No one who witnesses your sincere condolences to Lord de Broulert can fault your behaviour, though the grieving father will still attempt to find whatever fault he can. Lord de Broulert’s goal of seeing you socially embarrassed is more likely to paint him in a negative light than you. +20DC to Counter-Intrigue in this arena. +5DC to interactions with those of Pascae origin.
3 = Lord de Broulert abandons his attempt to formally denounce you at the ball. Not only does he not attempt to denounce you, he is forced to publicly accept your apology. This paints you in a good light and is a delicious bit of gossip for the locals. Counter-Intrigue attempt for this arena cancelled. +1 Re-Roll to interaction to those of Pascae origin.
Double Success = Lord de Broulert bears you little personal ill-will. Only social expectations demand his antagonistic behaviour.


3 rolls of 1d100, gentlemen. You have ONE re-roll and ONE save. Your opponent has TWO adverse re-rolls.

Lord de Broulert, please accept my sincere condolences…
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Rolled 68 (1d100)

>>4357399
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>>4357400
NOT ACCEPTED. As I said, I will not be accepting 1 post ID rolls whether they pass, fail or crit.
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If you link back to an earlier vote when you roll (in case your ID changed) that is perfectly fine. But not after the roll.
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Rolled 67 (1d100)

>>4357399
>Killed his favorite son

well fuck Emille be paying for his pride
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>>4357399
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Rolled 97 (1d100)

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Rolled 60 (1d100)

fug reroll
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>>4357391
Rest in peace Grandmaster. I wonder how many Grandmaster Godric took down before he fell.

The 40 Broken Blade knights will suffer some casualties during the battle, but not all of them will fall obviously. Some of them should survive.

Since the news of Grandmaster Godric's death should spread all over Canton and reach all of Canton pretty quickly, Emile will learn of what happened in the Wastelands very soon.

>>4357399
Shouldn't the extra lightning penance that Emile did for the accidental death of Sir Broulert have an effect on our interactions with Lord de Broulert? I imagine it'll grant bonuses in the interactions since it shows that Emile is genuinely repentant and remorseful over the accidental death of his son through his actions.


>>4357402
Can I roll in the upcoming interactions then?
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>>4357399
explain saves QM?
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>>4357410
>Can I roll in the upcoming interactions then?
Yes, no worries.

>Shouldn't the extra lightning penance that Emile did for the accidental death of Sir Broulert have an effect on our interactions with Lord de Broulert?
Not for de Broulert, but it's going to have dramatic implications for others. Also, as I understand, doing the full penance was decided upon even before you arrived in Pascae. You did elect to make it even more dangerous following the duel.
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>>4357411
A save can turn any fail (crit, double or otherwise) into a pass.

You only have one for the entire evening, so be careful how you spend it.
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>>4357399
>>4357412

>I do not view it as possible, even with a genuine apology and persuasive charisma, to actually obtain Lord de Broulert’s sincere forgiveness

>Not for de Broulert

Why? Emile literally took a lightning bolt to repent for it. Actions speak louder than words. That should show definitely show that he is sorry for it.
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>>4357414
m8 we don't go around flaunting that we stood out their because felt bad no one knows that we took extra penance for his death save tobray
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>>4357414
oh fuck lets not spend it here, we're outgunned for this.
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>>4357414
Would you expect Emile's father to so easily forgive someone who killed his son, even by accident?
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yeah that save can stop a 100 even tho from the rolls here it looks bad im not sure i want to use it yet
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>>4357415
>no one knows that we took extra penance for his death save tobray

There is now way he does not know about it. Forgotten literally said here>>4357412 that people know about it.

>>4357417
If it is Emile who initiated the challenge, the death was accidental, and then the one who killed him later took a freaking lightning bolt as penance for it, then yeah I absolutely expect it. We didn't even court Lady Maria Hewitt out of respect for him. Actions speak louder than words.
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>>4357420
>If it is Emile who initiated the challenge, the death was accidental, and then the one who killed him later took a freaking lightning bolt as penance for it, then yeah I absolutely expect it. We didn't even court Lady Maria Hewitt out of respect for him. Actions speak louder than words.

I heartily disagree, you are looking at this as a rational bystander rather than how a grieving father might process the situation.
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>>4357420
Btw, in the interest of pushing this forward I will happily accept a roll from you now.
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Also shouldn't the fact that we chose him as literally the first person to interact with in the Ball to apologize mean shit?

>>4357421
>I heartily disagree

Then you're an imbecile frankly. Actions speak louder than words even to a grieving father. Taking a lightning bolt and refusing to court his fiance even though it's a traditional custom should definitely factor into it.
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>>4357424
>Insulting the QM
>Arguing with the QM

Bruh
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>>4357423
Nah, I think I'm gonna wait let someone else roll.
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Okay, mate.
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>>4357424
m8 the guy lost his favorite son acting as if hes thinking rationally is foolish and in real life some people do hold onto their grief and anger regardless of what you do
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>>4357424
You must be the same guy who keeps accusing the QM of railroading. Insufferable fag
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Rolled 62 (1d100)

>>4357399

Oh boy. Lets see what happens.

Adam protects.
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>>4357431
ooffff
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i say we keep that save at the very least we can use it on the intrigue roll
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>>4357431
Fuck well lads time to add Broulert to the list of enemies bent on our destruction.
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>>4357434
he's gonna fuck us but no double so he could forgive us eventually
unless QM thinks 0 success = double fail effect
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>>4357433
I’m not even inclined to do so with the counter-intrigue. By design of the ball, the most important conversations will be had at the end of the night. Imagine if we fuck it up totally with the prince or bishop,
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Alright we completely fail the first interaction, get -20 DC for the first counter-intrigue, and -5DC for all interactions with anyone from Pasace for the rest of the Ball. This is going to be great.

>>4357429
>m8 the guy lost his favorite son acting as if hes thinking rationally is foolish and in real life some people do hold onto their grief and anger regardless of what you do

>>4357429
Already addressed this shit excuse and justification to make all our repentant actions and choices for the accidental death meaningless. Actions speak louder than words even to a grieving father. Forgotten gave us +10 DC for the write-in (pure words) but gave us literally nothing for taking an extra lightning strike as penance, not courting Sir de Broulert's fiance, and choosing Lord de Broulert as the first person to interact with.
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>>4357431
>>4357405
>>4357407
>>4357409

>0 Success
>Although your intentions may be sincere, your delivery is clumsy and could even be viewed as a crass attempt to rub your victory in a grieving father’s face. Lord de Broulert will jump on this chance to denounce you. -20DC to Counter-Intrigue in this arena. -5DC to interactions with those of Pascae origin

Not a great start, but those were some fairly subpar dice there. You will have the opportunity to wipe out the detriment to Pascae interactions when the Counter-Intrigue comes up.

>>4357436
0 =/= Double Fail

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No doubles fail at least. But still, fuck.
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>>4357436
yeah I misread that, still bad but not as.
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If this is how it is for just Lord de Broulert I don't even wanna see the pure BS Forgotten has prepared for the other interactions like courting the Princess and Lady Frida Vancewell or persuading the Crown Prince, Duke Pascae, or Bishop.
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The Palace Grounds: Persuasion Roll – Sir Robert Gilbern
[spoilers]Those write-ins that suggested avoiding discussion with or about his family were wise indeed.[/spoiler]

> Reasonable Request (in good faith) / Lower Social Standing
> 40DC
> Wealth +5DC
> Fashionable Attire +5DC, +1 Re-Roll
> Comrade Status +5DC
> Recorded Miracle (pending) +15DC
> Write-in (promotions!) +10DC
> Write-in (friendship + Cathagi mission) +15DC
> Save Face +1 Save (single use)
> Foreign escort -10DC possible evidence of 3rd party loyalties
> Botched Apology (Pascae Origins) -5DC
> Sir Gilbern: Noble Privilege, +1 Adverse Re-Roll
> Sir Gilbern: Fashionable Attire -5DC, +1 Adverse Re-Roll
> 75DC

Double Fail = Sir Gilbern is convinced you have your own agenda but, so long as your interests align with that of the Queen, this is perfectly fine.
0 = Sir Robert Gilbern has seen you involved in far too much to entirely trust you, let alone vouch for your brother. He isn’t entirely convinced that you are a Faction agent, but he also does not believe that you and your family aren’t playing their own game like Lord Alderague.
1 = Sir Gilbern knows you to be a good knight, and does not wish to see your house attainted. However, he is not willing to put his neck out for your brother. You can expect little help public help from him, but you also doubt he will be purposely steering the Ordo Reginate’s resources towards persecuting your household.
2 = Sir Gilbern allows himself to be seen in conversation with Young Lord Damien Andrei, massively assisting in your sister’s plan to no longer have Damien be viewed as a social leper. He regards this as a political favour, and considers your family in the Ordo Reginate’s debt. Failure to support the Queen by your family could cause issues down the line, but this is a small price to pay to see the heir of your house welcomed back into polite society. Mother will be pleased.
3 = At the social event of the year, something as innocuous as a brief handshake between the Second Herald and a Young Lord can more effectively dispel rumours of royal disfavour than any public proclamation of amnesty. Sir Gilbern regards this as a personal favour to you, in expectation of your good service in the Cathagi Court. Furthermore, you can expect that Sir Gilbern will vouch for your good character in the upcoming church inquiry.
Double Success = Your sister Roselyn and Sir Gilbern are both rapacious political animals. They appear to hit it off.


NEW ROLLERS PLEASE! 3 rolls of 1d100, gentlemen. You have ONE re-roll and ONE save. Your opponent has TWO adverse re-rolls.

Sir Robert Gilbern, as I live and breathe! Congratulations on your recent promotion…
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Rolled 52 (1d100)

>>4357446
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Rolled 76 (1d100)

>>4357446
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>>4357444
Whatever makes you mad sounds good by me
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Rolled 96 (1d100)

>>4357446
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>>4357446
Considering hes a comrade, would he want to use his adverse rerolls?
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>>4357448
>>4357449
>>4357452
>75DC
>1 Success first round of rerolls

What the shit
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Rolled 56 (1d100)

>>4357452
REROLL
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Rolled 92 (1d100)

>>4357448
Using Sir Gilbern's 1st Adverse Re-Roll to counter this.
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>the knight emile becomes a pariah to all regardless of his good intentions
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Rolled 91 (1d100)

>>4357458
Using Sir Gilbern's 2nd Adverse Re-Roll to counter this.
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>>4357462
>>4357459
Absolutely lovely.
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>>4357460
such is dat Good Knigga life
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Turns out we might not even survive getting on to the boat to Carhagi.
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Gentlemen, in light of lack of god, i propose suspending the session
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>>4357459
>>4357462
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>>4357467
no brakes on the train Knigga
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>>4357448
>>4357449
>>4357452
>>4357458
>>4357459
>>4357462
>0 Success
>Sir Robert Gilbern has seen you involved in far too much to entirely trust you, let alone vouch for your brother. He isn’t entirely convinced that you are a Faction agent, but he also does not believe that you and your family aren’t playing their own game like Lord Alderague.

Things are going downhill fast. Not only is your Reginate 'friend' decidedly neutral regarding your brother reintroduction into society, he is convinced that House Andrei is definitely making some sort of play in the deadly games of court.

At this rate, Emile might be jumping on the first ship out of Canton, sit down in a Cathagi cafe and wait for the whole thing to blow over.

===================================
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Why the hell would Sir Gilbern even use his adverse re-rolls against us? Does the fact that we're comrades who fought together and had each other's backs mean nothing? Is it the Pascae copper clipper blood in him manifesting?
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either this all setting up for us to become a pariah only for us to pull some mad shit or we are about to get the poison
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>>4357446
>0 success
welp while it is a little hurtful that he don't trust us, he is probably not wrong about mom or sis playing some game.
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>>4357473
>Emille survives all the Fallavon shit to be crucified in Pascae

what an end
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Also

>>4357446
>He isn’t entirely convinced that you are a Faction agent, but he also does not believe that you and your family aren’t playing their own game like Lord Alderague.

We literally brought a Faction agent (Sir Hast Vancewell) to justice. Why would he or the Order Reginae think we're a faction agent? Are they retarded?
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>jess can't save us from this basilisk
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>emile andrei is autismis maximus
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>>4357424
Please, fuck off.
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>>4357477
He'd have to be pretty paranoid indeed to conclude that you were a Faction agent, but it's also not impossible that there are factions within the Faction (pardon the pun). At this point the 3rd-party player is the more likely conclusion he will draw.

Interesting, to me at least, how this might affect your role at the Cathagi Court.
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>>4357444
I take back what I said, please stay. Seeing you seething and whining like that is actually amusing. It's a bonus entertainement.
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>>4357477
Vancewell could have been a sacrificial pawn. and we did turn up in Favallon are currently travelling with a faction knight, so who is to say we didn't get turned in the months he hasn't seen us.
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The Palace Grounds: Persuasion Roll – Sir Bartholomew Wavell
I’m going to go with the ‘investigation update’ write-ins here as the ones seeking info about the court seem to be bordering on an intrigue attempt for information.

> Reasonable Request (investigation update) / Lower Social Standing
> 40DC
> Wealth +5DC
> Fashionable Attire +5DC, +1 Re-Roll
> Write-in (investigation update + excellent progress) +20DC
> Save Face +1 Save (single use)
> Foreign escort (+10DC) Sir Wavell is fascinated with foreign cultures
> Sir Wavell: Fashionable Attire -5DC, +1 Adverse Re-Roll
> Sir Wavell: Wealth -5DC
> Botched Apology (Pascae Origins) -5DC
> 65DC

Double Fail = Sir Wavell views you as a hireling, albeit perhaps a competent and well-born one. Your connection to House Wavell is not noted by any onlookers of note.
0 = Sir Wavell is not interested in you wasting his time with updates, he wants results. You do not have the name of the killer yet and now several people within earshot know this. +1 Adverse Re-Roll to Captain Lorenzo interaction.
1 = Sir Wavell is disappointed you don’t already have the killers name, but at least he is discrete enough that the disappointment is kept suitably private.
2 = Sir Wavell appreciates the update, and lauds your efforts thus far. Your hushed discussions cover some further details previously thought unimportant to the man. Perhaps they are indeed unimportant, or perhaps they put certain things in perspective. +10DC to Captain Lorenzo interaction.
3 = In addition to impressing Sir Wavell with the progress you have already made, your findings thus far and amplified by further information. You are starting to narrow down your leads. +1 Re-Roll to Captain Lorenzo interaction.
Double Pass = Sir Wavell views you as a comrade and, if you are successful, perhaps even a friend. Your connection to House Wavell is noted by many onlookers.


NEW ROLLERS PLEASE! 3 rolls of 1d100, gentlemen. You have ONE re-roll and ONE save. Your opponent has ONE adverse re-roll.

Sir Wavell, I bring encouraging news…
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Rolled 46 (1d100)

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Rolled 83 (1d100)

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Rolled 55 (1d100)

>>4357487
Using Sir Wavell's single adverse re-roll to counter this.
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>>4357489
yey a bro
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>>4357489
Thanks for the double success.
Does it count ?
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Rolled 88 (1d100)

>>4357488
re-rolling
>>4357489
Noice
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Rolled 56 (1d100)

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>>4357489
Oh nice a double

>>4357492
Oh crap a double fail

This just keeps getting better and better.
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>>4357492
fuck me I'll go find the nearest thunderstorm and repent
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>>4357489
>>4357492
>55 Pass
>88 Fail

What the hell does this mean
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>>4357489
>Double fail
yeh bo-

>>4357492
>double fail

ahh goddamit let me off the train
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>>4357496
>the dice gods wish to extract as much pain as possible
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So do they cancel each other out?
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>>4357485
>Double Fail = Sir Wavell views you as a hireling, albeit perhaps a competent and well-born one. Your connection to House Wavell is not noted by any onlookers of note.

>Double Pass = Sir Wavell views you as a comrade and, if you are successful, perhaps even a friend. Your connection to House Wavell is noted by many onlookers.

How the hell do these two results even reconcile with each other? They're the complete opposite.
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>>4357500
just cancels 2 reg success
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>>4357496
Kek, good luck to deal with that in the narrative. Perhaps the guy is schizophrenic and while one of his personalities love us, the other hate us.
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>>4357499
>>4357500
They will cancel each other out if I can't make it work.

Like... Sir Wavell thinks you're the Alfred to his Batman? Like an indispensable servant. Trying to imagine Sir Andrei being out-haughty'ed.
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>>4357496
Probation lol.

In seriousness, he hasnt made up his mind. Onlookers will as ‘not just a mere hireling’.

Maybe a scandalous male lover /s
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>>4357503
And now we've even got the Two-Face in the whole batman analogy.
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>>4357505
>Like... Sir Wavell thinks you're the Alfred to his Batman? Like an indispensable servant. Trying to imagine Sir Andrei being out-haughty'ed.

Based Sir Wavell. He provides the best comic relief.
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>>4357505
How do you reconcile our connection then? Are they going to be noted or ignored?
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Come on post the Counter-Intrigue interaction so we can get raped some more.
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>>4357503
> Luthor Harkon works for the queen
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>>4357505
>Sir Wavell thinks you're the Alfred to his Batman

I like that
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>>4357505
>Like... Sir Wavell thinks you're the Alfred to his Batman? Like an indispensable servant. Trying to imagine Sir Andrei being out-haughty'ed.

I like this! can we have this?
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>>4357487
>>4357488
>>4357489
>>4357492
>>4357493

>2 Success
>Sir Wavell appreciates the update, and lauds your efforts thus far. Your hushed discussions cover some further details previously thought unimportant to the man. Perhaps they are indeed unimportant, or perhaps they put certain things in perspective. +10DC to Captain Lorenzo interaction.
>Double Pass + Double Fail: I'll have to think about this one.
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>>4357511
inb4 nat 1
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>>4357518
Would that make Lord de Broluert forgive us and accept our apology? Or is it that not even crits are capable of that?
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If we get rolls like this in the Dance Floor and the Ballroom... Sweet mother of mercy.
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>>4357524
>inb4 dance floor all nat1's and double successes
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>>4357525
I wonder what would happen if we got a nat 1 and a nat 100 for the same interaction.
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>>4357510
Noted by some, ignored by others ? That's the most difficult part.
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>>4357520
>We tear our clothes and cry at his feet begging for forgiveness
>You dance while bare chested +10DC
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>>4357525
>Vancewell and Daubeny hitchhikes to Carthagi
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>>4357525
>vance well daubney and the princess all stowaway in our ship to cathagii
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>>4357527
She likes it rough, but we got opinion of a brute around the court
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>>4357527
>Vancewell is crazier and meaner than her Brother but an absolute beast
>Daubney is a full blown Yandere
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>Sir Gilbern convinced that Sir Andrei is working for an unknown 3rd-party
>His face when Sir Andrei starts speaking at the church inquiry
I don't even know what the fuck he'll be thinking when you start flirting with Lady Vancewell
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>>4357537
FUCK WE NEED THAT NAT 1
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>>4357537
It must be incredible to see Emile and all he does from the perspective of the characters.
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>>4357537
we serve the angel so he's not wrong
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>>4357537
>Okay so Andrei is working for someone bu-
>Wait what the fuck is he doing with Vanc- WHY IS HE FLIRTING WITH HER
>WHY IS HE AT THE INQUIR- WHAT THE FUCK!
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>Naive knigga causes aneurysm among biggest players in kingdom do to his bumblefuckery
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>>4357537
>Emille is Chaos theory personified
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I want to spend that save for the Vancewell interaction so bad.
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>>4357547
Big brained knibba right here.
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>>4357547
If we don't botch the Daubney roll Im all in on that
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>>4357537
Don't forget he 'accidentally' killed son of Jeremiah de Broulert and then agitated him for some fucking reason
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>>4357547
No need to spend a save if we rolled 1:")
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>>4357553
Why are you putting accidentally in single quotation marks? It was an accident.
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>>4357446
>Double Success = Your sister Roselyn and Sir Gilbern are both rapacious political animals. They appear to hit it off.
It pains me we didn't get that I want that
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>>4357557
It supposed to be in green text and read like it's from outside perspective of someone suspecting foul play
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>>4357560
Roselyn is likely going to be offered a dance and courted by Marquis Vivian Pasace. Would be great if she got another suitor to add to her long list.

>>4357563
Oh alrighty then.
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>when emile has the same tactile prowess as the WW2 US army
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>>4357560
Pity we couldn't have had like a double save or something, that prospect would have been quite possibly worth it.
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The Palace Grounds: Counter-Intrigue Lord Jeremiah de Broulert
> Inferior Social Standing / Straightforward Ploy (take insult)
> 60DC
> Did not pursue Hewitt courtship -0DC, +0 Re-Rolls
> Botched Apology -20DC
> Write-in (apology) +10DC
> Save Face +1 Save (single use)
> Animal Companion (Dame Stoutsworth) +1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll
> 50DC

Double Fail = The detriment carries over to non-Pascae attendees as well.
0 = Publicly embarrassed. The exchange of words was dramatic enough to raise a few eyebrows. Your interaction with all Pascae attendees at the ball suffers is increased to -10DC. You can expect a challenge by one of Lord de Broulert’s best sworn men first thing tomorrow morning.
1 = Hurtful rumours. You could have handled that better. But you at least managed to not make your social faux pas any worse. Your interaction penalty of -5DC to those of Pascae origin remains in place for the rest of the Ball.
2 = Insult deflected. You take Lord de Broulert’s ire on the chin without complaint, providing a disappointingly shallow well for anyone seeking juicy gossip. You no longer suffer a penalty of -5DC to those of Pascae origin.
3 = Admirable restraint. Your good manners and noble bearing are noted despite Lord de Broulert’s outburst. Gain +5DC to interactions with those of Pascae origin.
Double Pass = Lord de Broulert was not without enemies. And the enemy of my enemies, as they say…


NEW ROLLERS PLEASE. 3 rolls of 1d100, kniggas. You have ONE Re-Roll and ONE save.

I meant no offence to His Lordship…
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Rolled 78 (1d100)

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Rolled 10 (1d100)

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Rolled 95 (1d100)

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Rolled 7 (1d100)

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Rolled 63 (1d100)

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>>4357572
re-rolling I suppose
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>>4357577
Nothing gained, well at least its not worse
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>>4357575
NOT COUNTED. You already rolled in this arena.

Now I'll have to go back and check this didn't happen for other rolls.
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>>4357573
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>>4357575
>>4357577
GG

Forgotten make sure to schedule when the Banquet Hall rolls will commence. I wanna read the shitshow while it's happening.
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>>4357575
anon you rolled already here >>4357405
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>>4357581
my bad chief I'll hold off till next area
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>>4357572
So 2 successes? I'll take it
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>>4357573
>>4357574
>>4357576
>>4357577

>2 Success
> Insult deflected. You take Lord de Broulert’s ire on the chin without complaint, providing a disappointingly shallow well for anyone seeking juicy gossip. You no longer suffer a penalty of -5DC to those of Pascae origin.

A pretty rough start to the Duke's Ball, write up and further rolls coming tomorrow.

>>4357582
It will be in 24 hours for the next arena. I might be a few hours late as I have an IRL thing on.
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>>4357439
>>4357471
>>4357515
>>4357588

I see that the curse of Forgotten's quests is alive and well. We always do well/survive combat only to fail most everything else. The dice want us to suffer but not die.
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I think the most hilarious combo, at least for our poor Second Herald's conspiracy mind, would be if Sir Andrei actually did pretty well on the later interactions following this.

>Sir Gilbern's face when Emile high-fives the Prince and finger-guns his way out of the ballroom after hitting on Vancewell and the Princess
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>>4357596
>Storm Andrei is intensifying to the point where we may not be able to contain it.
>Why contain it?
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>>4357588
>Dame stoutworth reroll saved us.

>this means its the appearance of our ermine that surprised him enough to derail his attack
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>>4357596
Sir Gilbern after the duke’s ball and angel inquiry
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>Sir Gilbern's expression as he attempts to grasp the true form of Emile's allegiances.
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>>4357596
>Sir Gilbern looking around during the Ball to see if anyone else knows wtf is going on with Emile
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>>4357669
>>4357639
Pretty much my face as i woke up this morning reading this quest.

Good luck to you all for the next set of rolls
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By the Almighty, this was not a great start for the Duke's Ball.

>>4356587
This is me if my ID has changed.

>>4356065
>>4357596
>Banquet Hall
>3 interactions (+0DC), +1 Counter-Intrigue
>-Captain Torres Lorenzo [Intrigue]
>-The Patrikas Ianthe [Persuade]
>-Lady Brunhilde Rabe [Persuade]
>*Sir Marco Hewitt [Counter-Intrigue]

I really hope Lady Brunhilde Rabe can provide us with any useful info, gossip, or secret that might be of use to us with the ladies we're going to court and dance with, especially Lady Frida Vnacewell. The chad Bear ravaging this sexy hot minx would be pretty great. The fact that her house is antagonistic makes it even better as it provides a Romeo & Juliet spin to it.
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>>4357944
> Getting a bonus from Patrikas at the beginning is such a waste

I waaaaaarned you.
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>>4357309
This is me,
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>>4357954
Yeah, I wonder if the Cathagi librarian milf will help us with the rest of the interactions that are going to be after her's since we'll help her in the meeting with Duke Leonardo. The aid and help we got from the Ashen One (faebro healer/translator) was one of the reasons why the Fae Banquet went well for us.
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>>4357987
Well at least we didn't fuck up EVERYTHING.

The Sir Wavell also has me laughing.
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>>4358004
>Sir Wavell thinks you're the Alfred to his Batman? Like an indispensable servant. Trying to imagine Sir Andrei being out-haughty'ed.

The written scene of that will be pure kek.
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We are going to be complete shit at everything but the courtship rolls, calling it here.
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It's pretty funny how average rolls are probably best, but the skewed rolls are the ones people remember, and the ones with the largest consequences.
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>>4358154
What I find funny is how the failures were by so much that no bonuses would have really helped.

Like. Gilberns were up in the 90s.
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I have updated the pasterbins

https://pastebin.com/bLgnvK4L

Also we should mention to the Bishop we have one of the men responsible for the murder of the Reclamaint Priest for preaching outside the Hole. With more of the culprits to fall in the hands of the Ordo Praetor with our help.
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>>4357944
Mah knigga
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>>4358534
That's a great meme anon, fucking funny
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>>4358534
Ahahaha
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>>4358534
kek
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>>4357944
Emile doesn't really seem like the kind of person to try to get into some ladies dress, especially one that hates us. We have only really flirted 3 times, the first didn't go anywhere at it was the simplest flirting. The second time we went all the way, but got cold feet afterwards and hat to work to retain a positive relationship with her. The third time was with the lady we are currently escorting and it was more a matter of politeness and etiquette.Courting Vancwell at this ball would be more similar to the third. Emile just hasn't seem like a pursuer of women, though he could gradually become one, Vancwell isnt the most reasonable please to start. Lady Daubeny on the other hand...ah but we still have plenty of time to increase our renown to make courtship with more notable women easier.
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>>4358704
People are doing it for the lols and thinking itl make them a Chad not to metion Sir Gilbern reations in the background is going to funy as fuck.
I think this is a super silly vote that shouldnt have happened but the bear dose some silly things so time to enjoy watching it all burn.
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>>4358704
I view it as Emile intentionally kind of messing with her while also being attracted to her.

Yes, like a little kid teasing the girl he likes.

Honestly I kind of see it as fitting for him to be emotionally on that level with women.
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It's like Prince and the Commander. Fun, but one day we're going to hit the jackpot.
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>>4358534
Beautiful
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>>4358704
I consider it Emille coming out of his shell, his sexual and romantic history has been incredibly short at this point, this ball and the women present combined with a few ego boosters he's had since Tracker Jean may have made him more confident in pursuing women if not a skirt chaser.

He may not be a casual sex man but I thinks he's more open to it than he was and he could certainly be pushed by others or situation to it.
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>>4358743
> It's like Prince and the Commander. Fun, but one day we're going to hit the jackpot.

Please explain, because what I remember from BCQ is that Prince did not get that jackpot AT ALL.
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>>4358762
He could have goten the jackpot if we ether rolled better and didn't turn him into some sort of undead lich thing from abusing the drak powers,
commander was wanting the dick at the end but we wore too fucked up to give it to her.
>>4358747
Vote to have sexy lessions from the milf and have his mind blown whwn he learns theres more to sex the dick gose in v.
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>>4358785
Implying that we didn't choose that end for the company and the commander.

That's what I don't get about StV. We already played someone noble and self-sacrificing.
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>>4358792

Yeah next game (assuming Forgotten doesn't get QM Cursed) be it StV or something else, I'd love to play an absolute selfish bastard of a character. Something as opposite to Emile and Prince as possible
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>>4358792
We are full of FAITH™ though anon
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>>4358785
Nah I'm good senpai, 50+ cougars do not do it for me
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>>4358792
I don't think Emille is at the point of self sacrifice like Prince was, sure he'll pull some heroic suicidal stuff but there's a line he won't cross yet.
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>>4358796
>[COPPERCLIPPING INTENSIFIES]
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>>4358816
We just recently risked sacrificing ourselves to ensure our brother lived.

That being said I agree with you in a more general sense.


>>4358817
Yeah legit playing a thorns based copper clipper would be a bit of fun. For now though... Fuck copper clippers
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>>4358820
Yeah being a Copperclipper thorny boi would be nice if Emille ever kicked it but Captain Canton bullshit is also fun.

I perhaps worded that poorly, I don't disagree that self sacrifice is within Emilles personality, however I think there's a great degree in seperation in what Prince was willing to do and be in his commitment to the company and what Emille is willing to do for his causes.

In short IMO Emille believes the Buck stops somewhere weither that's not making deals with dark powers or simply willing to lay one's life but not their soul on the line to save those he cares about.
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Lord Jeremiah de Broulert – Persuade
>0 Success
>Although your intentions may be sincere, your delivery is clumsy and could even be viewed as a crass attempt to rub your victory in a grieving father’s face. Lord de Broulert will jump on this chance to denounce you. -20DC to Counter-Intrigue in this arena. -5DC to interactions with those of Pascae origin

Lord Jeremiah de Broulert – Counter-Intrigue
>2 Success
> Insult deflected. You take Lord de Broulert’s ire on the chin without complaint, providing a disappointingly shallow well for anyone seeking juicy gossip. You no longer suffer a penalty of -5DC to those of Pascae origin.

The Duke’s Palace rivals that of the Royal Palace of Aubrey, in spectacle if not appeal as a fortification. Glass, coloured and clear, is in abundance in the palace as it was in the Cathedral deeper in the city. It is a sign of wealth and power, and not a subtle one. You would not be surprised if the silvered armour of the guards wearing the Duke Pascae’s livery was gilded with actual silver, such is the extravagance In your homeland of Romaine, such abundance has long since been diverted to the war effort.

It is not fate or chance that sees you approaching Lord Jeremiah de Broulert among the flow of attendees making their way inside, you sought out the father of the man you slew at the earliest opportunity. Not to revel in the feat or anything else so crass, but to offer you sincere apologies. Sir de Broulert was a worthy knight, one who fought honourably and had the better of you for much of the duel. His death was regrettable, and you are well aware that had you kept a cooler head he may still have been counted among the living tonight.

The black sash around Lord de Broulert’s waist is out-of-season and obviously worn as a sign of mourning. Quite a large piece of apparel to signify bereavement, but hardly unusual so soon after such a severe loss. Sir de Broulert was a flower of Pascae chivalry by all accounts, and the golden child of House de Broulert.

“Lord de Broulert, may I offer my sincere condolences…”

“Ah, the Romani brute. Come to gloat, no doubt.” The attendees the Lord was talking to withdraw, though remaining inconspicuously well within ear shot. “Hasn’t my family suffered enough at your hands, Romani?”

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“That is not my intention. Sir de Broulert had the better of me throughout the duel. Only in the final moments did I prove myself the better man-“

“The better man?! God damn you, sir!” Every head within earshot twists at the Lord’s raised voice, intrigued eyes and coy smiles widen behind fan and mask alike at the sudden outburst. “My son was ten times the man you are!”

“I misspoke, Your Lordship. I only meant-“

“You only meant to crow your act of sanctioned murder in the face of a grieving father. And you call yourself a knight?”

“I do. As did your son. He knew the risk of his issued challenge, as any knight would.” You’ve let this go far enough, any further and one of you will be forced to do or say something you will undoubtedly regret. There are few men indeed that can publically question your fitness as a knight and Lord de Broulert is not one of them, dead son or no. “I have offered my condolences and weathered the anguish of a man I see to be a loving father, but that is finished. I will brook no further insult. If you wish to take this further, issue a charter of challenge or call for an investigation. Good day, Your Lordship.”

The growing crowd disperses as you stalk off, titillated by the confrontation but disappointed that events petered out before anything too juicy was offered. No doubt it is still early in the night for such things. The Patrikas Ianthe offers you a reassuring pat on your hand, scant comfort for all the sly looks directed your way.

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Sir Robert Gilbern – Persuade
>0 Success
>Sir Robert Gilbern has seen you involved in far too much to entirely trust you, let alone vouch for your brother. He isn’t entirely convinced that you are a Faction agent, but he also does not believe that you and your family aren’t playing their own game like Lord Alderague.

After your unenviable encounter with Lord de Broulert, it is with some relief that you encounter your favourite Herald near the palace gates.

“Sir Robert Gilbern, as I live and breathe! Congratulations on your recent promotion.”

“Why thank you, Sir Andrei. And who is this? …Ianthe. ” Sir Gilbern pauses, noting her identity with a surprised frown. “Come to see what gossip you can fish and sell back to your masters across the sea?”

“Robert, εραστής. I thought I smelt something.” The Patrikas Ianthe’s smile is as sharp as her eyes, like one alley cat running into another. “And for once it’s not Garrotte Spice in my khave.”

“If you’re referring to that incident in Aubrey, I can assure you…”

“Ancient history.” The Patrikas Ianthe lips twitch as she makes her excuses. “Enjoy catching up with your friend, Sir Andrei. I shall see you inside.”

“I wasn’t aware you two knew each other.” You glance at Sir Gilbern, noting his furrowed brows as he watches Ianthe depart. “Not friends, I take it?”

“She used to be my opposite, as far as intelligence networks go. Quite a feat she pulled, to live long enough in her profession to reach some sort of retirement.” Despite how viciously the two were talking earlier, there is a measure of respect in the Reginate’s voice. “Not a friend, by an means. But, with the state of the Cathagi court, not much of a threat either.”

“My sister arranged this whole Patrikas escort arrangement. I figured that given our earlier talk of the Cathagi court and my letter of recommendation to the Dragon Guard…” You really don’t see how Sir Gilbern’s explanation covered why the two knew each other on a first name basis. “Well, it couldn’t hurt to get a head start.”

“A head start is definitely one way of putting it. You keep interesting company, Sir Andrei. To say nothing of your brother.” You glance back at your sister, arm-in-arm with Damien a little further down the pathway. She gives you a quizzical look. “No, I don’t think that would be prudent. A funny thing that your brother should be a person of interest and here he appears… Veritably surrounded by so many other persons of similar interest. He couldn’t possibly have been posing as a certain green-shaded knight on the road, could he? I’m genuinely surprised that worked as well as it did.”

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Roselyn doesn’t wait for the shake of your head, instead deftly escorting your brother and the click-clack of his cane on a path that doesn’t make it obvious they are avoiding you and Sir Gilbern. Thank the Almighty Roselyn could pick up on Sir Gilbern’s indifference to avoid attempting to introduce him to Damien. A public snubbing of your brother by the Queen’s Second Herald could have spelt doom for the whole plan.

“There’s a lot of people at this party, Sir Gilbern. That doesn’t mean they’re all plotting together.” It is hard not to take Sir Gilbern’s careful neutrality a little personally, and the snappishness in your voice is evident to your own ears. “My brother is loyal to the realm, and a good man. He sustained his injuries lending aid to the Ordo Praetor in their investigation.”

“Believe me, I heard. I suspect that many, many people on that list will be dead or on the first ship to Langland after tonight. Oh, I know your valiant brother sustained his injuries assisting the Praetors in bringing this awful activity to light. And, conveniently, throwing the delicate balance of blackmail, favours and power so carefully accrued on both sides right out to sink at the bottom of the damn harbour. My father is going to hate it, so I suppose that is a point in your favour. I even suspect that painting your brother as valiantly wounded in the line of duty will work, for the masses. But to be honest…” Sir Gilbern shakes his head, none of the same openness he risked in Aubrey is present here. He has put his public mask of wry indifference is back on and you don’t know if you’ll ever see him drop it with you again. “I don’t know what your game is, Sir Andrei. When last we met I had you pegged as an earnest but uninvolved man. Now I suspect that I’ve been played the fool, or at the least been more trusting than I should have. You Andreis are up to something, and for your sake I hope you’re merely being opportunistic. A little ambition is a good thing in a noble house, admirable even. Too much and… well. We both had a hand in how that turned out for poor Sir Vancewell. Enjoy the party, Sir Andrei…”

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“Robert, who was that tall fellow you were just speaking with?” The speaker, a man you recognise as the Third Herald of the Ordo Reginate, is every bit the giant of chivalry that you witnessed in the Fallavon ruins. “Don’t ‘Lord Alexandi’ me. It’s Kasper to you, Robert. Let’s not stand on protocol here.” Although you cannot make out Sir Gilbern’s response, Lord Alexandi makes little effort to lower his voice. “Hmm, Andrei. Romani? I thought so. So, a man of my own duchy. That’s probably why he seemed so familiar. I must have exchanged a lance or two with at him at local tourney, back in the day…”

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Sir Bartholomew Wavell – Persuade
>2 Success
>Sir Wavell appreciates the update, and lauds your efforts thus far. Your hushed discussions cover some further details previously thought unimportant to the man. Perhaps they are indeed unimportant, or perhaps they put certain things in perspective. +10DC to Captain Lorenzo interaction.
>Double Pass + Double Fail: Sir Wavell considers you to be an indispensable hireling. Your interaction was noted, but plenty of people meet at these kinds of parties.

“Hold this, will you?” You were in the middle of providing Sir Wavell with an update of the investigation when he hands you his cup of wine. “Ma Belle, Mademoiselle Gilbern! You look more ravishing with every passing second in this moonlight. Who, him? No, no, no. Just business, all very dull. Yes, my dearest, I will see you inside.”

“As I was saying, Sir Wavell…”

“Yes, yes of course. The ledger. You think our killer’s name will be on it?”

“Very possible, though hard to single him out on that alone. The most promising lead is this go-between ‘Lorenzo’.”

“And you believe that this Golden Sun Company has something to do with it?”

“I am certain of it. If they don’t actually know who the killer is, they certainly know who might know.”

“Now that –is- interesting. The Golden Sun does a lot of business here, and I mean a lot. Private security, bolstering standard bannermen in times of need, even a very lucrative arrangement for the Church and Order of the Trident regarding Langlish shipping lanes.” Sir Bartholomew twirls his Langlish-style mustache, deep in thought. “My cousin Quill is actually on the committee that awards such contracts… You know the Golden Sun captain is here tonight? Somewhere.”

“I am aware, in fact I was planning to ask him a few questions.”

“Lean on him a little, eh? Capital. Hmm, it might be worth dropping his name. The only more certain way You know, Sir Andrei, you’re proving yourself to be quite indispensable.” You try to appreciate the compliment of a job well done, even though it seems uncomfortably similar to what you imagine a merchant buying a bargain item would sound like. “ I had no idea that you were so proficient at this. Best private manhunter I ever hired, I can certainly say. Worth every coin. Every. Single. Coin.”

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>Your efforts to make friends and allies at this ball have so far met with mixed success, you need to do better. [+5DC to Persuade interactions in the next arena]

>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]
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I'm not able to call for rolls tonight, that was a pretty hefty update. I'll leave this vote open for 12 hours and call for more rolls then.
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>>4358871
>>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]
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>>4358534
Hahahahahaha nice

>>4358871
>Your efforts to make friends and allies at this ball have so far met with mixed success, you need to do better. [+5DC to Persuade interactions in the next arena]

>>4358872
No prob Forgotten. Have a good night.
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>>4358871
>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]
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>>4358869
>Gilbern shadowrunning this hard

The Dancefloor and Inquiry are going to be gold

>>4358871
>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]

Hewitt is absolutely going to try something, lord copperclipper he is this may confirm our suspicions about the families involvment in the slave ring and prehaps these murders.
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>>4358871
>>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]

If we had 3 persuade interactions, i would have chosen the +5DC. However its only for 2 interactions. The Reroll will be much more worth it.

Forgotten, does our Ermine reroll recharge?
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>>4358877
>Forgotten, does our Ermine reroll recharge?
I'll say yes, given that is fairly unique. But I will also assume that any successful re-roll doesn't actually involve the little critter jumping out and starting shit.
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>>4358871
>Your efforts to make friends and allies at this ball have so far met with mixed success, you need to do better. [+5DC to Persuade interactions in the next arena]
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>>4358879
Dame Stoutsworth grants +1 re-roll to Courtship/Intrigue rolls. Does Counter-Intrigue count as part of Intrigue and can she be used in them?
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>>4358884
Yes, though again I won't always count it as a physical interaction unless it makes sense to write it that way.
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>>4358885
I see. Thanks for the answer Forgotten.
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>>4358879
If we end up not using the reroll (hah) i guess it wont cascade to the next arena?
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>>4358871
>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]
FUCKING COPPER CLIPPERS
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>>4358876
I have just the retort for him when he asks us why we went for vancewell

>now my good man gilbern i assume you enjoy a good hunt as any REDBLOODED VIRILE KNIGGA now what beast is the more exciting chase the stag that may only run or the bear that can fight back the danger my good man is half the fun
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>>4358879
wear dose it stay on our person or is it constantly crawling around
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>>4358820
honestly high tier thorny boys would have some mean traits
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>hewitt probably has 100 thorn points
his traits are gonna hurt isn't it
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>>4358901
High tier of any path is bound to be mean
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>>4358871
>>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]
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>>4358871
For what its worth, i think we need the dc.
I think i always get 1post id onlyd.
>gotta git gud
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>>4358911
But it only counts for 2 of the 3 interactions. Now if it was a flat across the board +5DC, i'd be all over it.
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>>4358871
>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]
>>4358872
Understandable, take the time you need
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>>4358871
>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]
Keep up the defense.
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>>4358871

>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]

Given how shit the first batch of rolls were and how much they missed the mark by, we're going to need another re-roll over the +5.
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>>4358871
>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]
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>>4357446
I suppose this is dangerously close to copperclipping, but does "Botched Apology (Pascae Origins) -5DC" apply to Gilberns roll if the -5 DC malus is immediately negated in >>4358865 ?
We'd get one success with Gilbern if that isn't the case.
Or did the malus last for the entire arena?
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>>4358871
>>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]
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>>4358871
>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]

There are only two persuade interactions next, defence is more important
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>>4358964
I think of of it like those in the arena were aware of it gut due to counter intrigue it either never reaches the rest or is forgotten by the time we move on
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>>4358964
I'd say its due to narrative vs dice-ative. All intrigue versus emile comes in after all the other actions have been take, this has been established clearly unless in other events. It just so happens that the perp of the intrigue also is one whom we're speaking to in the sequence. It just makes more narrative sense for it to happen together instead of breaking off and meeting again later.
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>>4358898
He's going to look at us with disbelief/fear and ask us if we actually know what we're doing.
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>>4358992
>Truely the Faction has some fearsome agents
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>>4358871
>>Your efforts to make friends and allies at this ball have so far met with mixed success, you need to do better. [+5DC to Persuade interactions in the next arena]
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>>4358871
>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]

>>4356137
This is me;
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>>4358871
>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]
I feel like we will need this more.
Also ,if i'm not mistaken we swore an oath to never sire bastards. So if we are going to court a woman with the eventual intent of sleeping with her, we had better also intend to marry her, which means we have to be a lot more choosy.
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>>4359026
Arrangments could be made though I doubt we ever would consent to it that a child is never born of our amorus dealing with the lady or the obvious straightforward possibility of breaking the oath for a baser reason be it lust, politics or scandal.
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>>4359026
>Also ,if i'm not mistaken we swore an oath to never sire bastards. So if we are going to court a woman with the eventual intent of sleeping with her, we had better also intend to marry her, which means we have to be a lot more choosy.

Not a problem with an elf ;)
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>>4358871
>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]

>>4358004
This is me.
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>>4358871
>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]
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>>4358871
>Your efforts to make friends and allies at this ball have so far met with mixed success, you need to do better. [+5DC to Persuade interactions in the next arena]
Fuck these copper clipping, backstabbing, two-timing, hands-rubbing, backroom dealing scoundrels.
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>>4358871
>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]
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>>4359026
we swore an oath to never sire bastards.
True but rember like most oaths there are loop holes, the oath only forbids us having kids outaide of a wife, it dosnt stop us from haveing sexual encounters so as loong as a baby dosnt come from it, its all good in the hood, hence banging the milf is ideal as we wont have to worry about babys from her and im sure she will teach us some sex things that cant make babys.
Gay kinghts also dosnt break the oath as gay butt sex cant make babys.
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>>4358871
>>Your efforts to make friends and allies at this ball have so far met with mixed success, you need to do better. [+5DC to Persuade interactions in the next arena]
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>>4359026
Just pull out dude
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>>4359105
Sacred_Band.jpg intensifies.

Also since magic makes people sterile qe can totes fuck mages and finish inside.
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>>4359172
Dosnt always work but i like where your going, headshot.

>>4359200
They can have babys if there not too far gone just makes it a fuck ton harder to do, probs way they have so many sex partys.
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>>4358964
Too late to rewrite it, but maybe we can have a small bonus later on.
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>>4358871
>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]
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>>4358871
>>Your efforts to make friends and allies at this ball have so far met with mixed success, you need to do better. [+5DC to Persuade interactions in the next arena]

We already have a reroll and a save, I think having a little extra dc will help here.
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>>4355473
Is me don't know why my ID changed
>>4359310
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>>4359310
Re rolls normally are worth more then a 5+ bonus and we going to need all the help we can get with 9+ interactions left to go.
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>>4357560
Checking on my ID
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>>4359172
Or use the rear entrance.
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>>4358869
I feel this rejection a little too personal, we should become friends with Kasper instead.
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I have a few errands to run today, rolls won't start up for a few hours.
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>>4359172
I'd rather not to have to roll as to whether we pullout in time
>>4359264
Emile is far too much of a true Chad to participate in such parties(at least that part of the parties)
>>4359105
Loopholes meant to get out of the virtuous spirit of the oaths seem unchivalrous. Its different than a loophole in the form of faking to be asleep so we can kill a villainous cur that was appearing to be helpless so we wouldn't kill him.
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>>4359803
>I'd rather not to have to roll as to whether we pullout in time

We literally put this to a vote with Jean and it was overwhelmingly in favour of rolling.

I guess if anons had even suspected Jean was carrying an Emile-junior in the oven the vote to have an abortion by snek would have been overwhelming. I remember all too well how things went down with White Bitch in BCQ.
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>>4359867
I really wonder how quickened Black Prince would have handled having a son.
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>>4359867

>Emile "My virginity you take,Get aborted by a snake" Andrei
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>>4359867
>Emile "Have My Child, Become Expired" Andrei
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>>4359867
Emile "Courting Frida Vancewell makes my dick swell" Andrei
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>>4360112
>Emile "Killing your man, taking your hand" Andrei
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>>4359867
>Emile "Touch my groin most sacred,get defenestrated" Andrei
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>>4358871
>>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert and has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]
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>>4359867
>Emile "Knigga knocks me down, knigga's gonna drown" Andrei
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>>4359867
>Emile "Return my sword, I'll knock you into a fjord" Andrei
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>>4359867
>Emile "I'll snatch away your life, then catch the eye of your wife" Andrei
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>>4358820
This is me by the way, not sure how my ID changed
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>>4359867

>Emile "Down a mug of Khave, Interrogate a Knave" Andrei
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>>4359803
Emile is far too much of a true Chad to NOT participate in such parties
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>>4359867
the problem with bcq was we got cucked by the dark father i didn't see that satan spawn as our flesh and blood
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>>4360245
To be fair that was devised of our own shenanigans, I mean using Dark powers fueled by a darkgod in the bedroom c'mon.
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>>4360213
>implying Emile needs powdered noblemen who will throw themselves at him due to his pedigree and muscles instead of highborn ladies who Emile can prove himself to and better himself in the attempt.
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Kniggas I am about to get high and watch Lord of the Rings, so probably not a good time to call for rolls.

We will see how we do in the morning. Though I think Sor Andrei would do pretty well in LotR...
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>>4360400
All g see you tomorrow
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>>4360400
Reeee gib updates

just kidding enjoy the dope
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>>4360400
If its anything less than a full extended trilogy, i'd be disappointed~ Enjoy the movie Forgotten. That it is still a sight to watch and holds up today is a mark of its excellence.
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>>4360437
> Not the animated Ralph Bakshi version
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I love you kniggaaaaaas
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>>4360494
*cracks whip*
He got out of his cage again bois. Get his legs.
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>>4360494
We shall make a gay Knigga to honour this moment.
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>>4360494
thou gay
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>>4360494
Back to Cathago with ye, writeslave.
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>>4360494
Forgotten right now
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>>4360494
gayyy
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>>4360494
GAY
(I approve)
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Qm way are you still sleeping!!??
My work day ia almost over and i havent goten my stv hit yet rrrreeeeeee!!!!!
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>inb4 opioid overdose
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>>4361358
I mean it is only 10am in the land down under.......
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>>4361414
yeah forgotten usually posts midday in upside down land
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>>4361435
Kind of sucks that I cant participate while the quest is active due to being in the States, but at least others and I can figure out our next move afterwards.
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>>4361626
I should of been clearer on weekends he regularly post midday week days however it's 8pm to 10 pm aust
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>>4360494
By the way do crits override doubles? Like if you get a critical success and a doubles fail does the double fail effect still happen? Same thing with a crit fail and doubles success?
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>>4361746
Rule thumb for me is Crit negates the opposite doubles but the same doubl3d still apply so success negate double failures but double success will compound the Crit success
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>>4361746
Typically from what ive seen is that the crit takes precedence, but the double has an effect. For example, lets say you you got a double fail so you lose your sword, but you got a crit success, so you dont lose your head and you give your enemy a black eye in the exchange.
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Gib Banquet phase
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>>4361786
Lose your sword IN your enemy.
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Hope qm is till alive and that the dice gods dont fuck you all up when the time comes,
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Still alive, but very definitely not composted memo right now
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muh id
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>>4361905
Compos mentis?
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>>4361905
Well at least it wasn't the QM curse.
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>>4361928
I'm assuming thats what he meant.

anyone else want to see how good a swordsman sir Wavell is?
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>>4361935
Every day without a update is a curse
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>>4362150
Hush now, OP needs some time off.
God knows how awful it is to be an Assuie.
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>>4362150
> Valen Quest when.
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fucking hell i stopped reading for no reason after the anarchy fight and just caught up, I had missed a lot of amazing moments.
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>>4363275
Lesson learned. Never stop reading, shits only going to get more wild
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>>4362183
God doesn't know, god left this place a long time ago
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My bro Forgotten spent all day playing pathfinder with me instead of this quest :)
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>>4363757
> the things we do for brojobs.
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>>4363757
at this rate August is going to roll around before we finish the Ball

we're going to be at the ball forever
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>>4363757
More like tranyfinder, HA!
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Soooo . . . See you all next thread?
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>>4364188
We got at lest 600 more post till that happens.
And the ball to finsh
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>>4361905
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>>4364280
That's some smug onions right there.
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>>4364280
Huh. DESU Senpai, I didn't expect that word replacement.
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My profuse apologies for the radio silence, the last couple of days have been a bit of a whirlwind for me.
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>>4364934
Especially because of those goblins eh?
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>The confrontation with Lord de Broulert has put you on edge, reminded you that you are a target to some here. [+1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll for the next arena]

Sandag, 4th Day of Acrimun, 883 A.C.E., Port Bounty – Evening
The Duke of Pascae’s 198th Annual Ball


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rRzfWF6gGk - Banquet Hall theme

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The general concensus, as I understand, was to have a fairly innocuous conversation and see if you can get the Captain to slip up and reveal more about their operation or Lazar’s location. Given the assistance DC from Sir Wavell’s info, the end result may be more straightforward.

The Banquet Hall: Captain Torres Lorenzo – Intrigue
> Higher Social Standing / Straightforward Ploy (steer conversation, threaten)
> 50DC
> Write-in: Innocuous convo +10DC
> Write-in ‘Il Contratto è Tutto’ +5DC
> Foreign escort (at ease, but not Langlish) +5DC
> Wealth Status +5DC
> Sir Wavell information +10DC
> Animal Companion: Dame Stoutsworth +1 Re-Roll
> 80DC

Double Fail = Slip of the tongue. You reveal some information that could potentially be used against you.
0 = The Captain discerns (or believes) that no evidence in your investigation concretely leads back to him. Furthermore, he is now able take some measures that make locating Lazar more difficult.
1 = Your questioning of Captain Lorenzo confirms much of what you already know, but little in the way of new information. An awkward standoff, neither party holds the advantage.
2 = The one thing a merc likes more than making money is not losing the money already on his paycheque. Captain Lorenzo is willing to cut a deal.
3 = Called his bluff. In addition to finding out where Lazar is hiding out, you glean some insight into the slaver side of the investigation.
Double Success = In addition to any other results, you glean some insight into the slaver side of the investigation.


3 rolls of 1d100, kniggas. You have ONE re-roll and ONE save.

Captain Lorenzo, how is the Golden Sun faring these days?
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Rolled 52 (1d100)

>>4364940

Let's do this.
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Rolled 75 (1d100)

>>4364940
Aww shit yeah let's go
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Rolled 6 (1d100)

>>4364940
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>>4364943
>>4364944
>>4364946

Looks like 3 successes, with no adverse re-rolls. Nice.
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>>4364943
>>4364944
>>4364946
A wonderful change in fortunes clearly forgottens bender did wonders for our dice.
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>>4364940
>Write-in ‘Il Contratto è Tutto’
What was this write-in?
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>>4364965

Looked through the last thread earlier to see for myself. Looks like it was telling him that we ran into Golden Sun mercs before and killed them. ‘Il Contratto è Tutto’ meant that we understood that it's purely from contract purposes that we were fighting rather than personal or political purposes, and that plays well for the merc mindset that the Captain holds.
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One of the suggested write-ins including dropping the Golden Sun slogan, which you overhead way back in Fallavon.

I thought it was very clever to call back to that, especially since the bonus from Sir Wavell includes threatening some of their existing contracts.
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>>4364973
Damn. I mean, yeah, that Anon earned the bonus I feel.
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>>4364949
Finaly some good rolls, kinda surprised we didnt just roll 3 90+ rolls
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>Captain Lorenzo - Intrigue
>3 Success: Called his bluff. In addition to finding out where Lazar is hiding out, you glean some insight into the slaver side of the investigation

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From what I can tell, the Banquet Hall write-ins (as opposed to the Dance Floor write-ins) were mainly aimed at assisting the Patrikas and winning her over. I am not including the direct asking of what information she is trying to sell as that is certainly an intrigue roll. I will also assume that this interaction encompasses introducing her to the Duke, which may also account for any boons you receive in further interactions.

The Banquet Hall: Patrikas Ianthe – Persuade
> Reasonable Request (assist) / Equal Social Standing
> 60DC
>Khave fan +5DC
>Warned of Assassins +20DC Ianthe will not use Adverse Re-Rolls
> Wealth Status +5DC
> Fashionable Attire (Cantish) +5DC, +1 Re-Roll
> Patrikas Ianthe: Wealth Status -5DC
> Patrikas Ianthe: Fashionable Attire (Cathagi) -5DC, +1 Adverse Re-Roll
> 85 DC

Double Fail = Double-Agent. Sir Gilbern suspects that you may be a compromised source if you join the Cathagi Court.
0 = Poor Escort. Your clumsy introduction of the Patrikas to the Duke hinders her goal, and also causes a raised eyebrow from the Duke himself. -7DC on the Duke Pascae interaction.
1 = Adequate Escort. Your polite introduction is perfectly acceptable, adhering to the proper forms of address when introducing a foreignor to an esteemed noble of the Duke’s station.
2 = Proper Escort. The Patrikas appreciates your efforts in taking your role seriously. You also make a fleeting impression on the Duke, not bad for a person so low below his station. +7DC on the Duke Pascae interaction.
3 = Charming Escort. Your pleasant introduction helps immensely, the Patrikas is becoming a little enamoured with her gallant young escort. She also puts in a good word for you with the Duke. +5 & +1 Re-Roll in the Duke Pascae interaction.
Double Pass = Peek behind the curtains. The Patrikas reveals a little more about her would-be assassins.


NEW ROLLERS PLEASE. 3 rolls of 1d100 gents. You have ONE re-roll and ONE save. Your opponent has ONE adverse re-roll, but will refrain from using it for this interaction.

Your Grace, may I humbly introduce the esteemed Patrikas, late of Cathagi shores…
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Rolled 7 (1d100)

>>4364979
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Rolled 76 (1d100)

>>4364979
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>>4364981
I'll accept this, but be warned that fresh IDs will not be accepted on rolls if you're not linking to an earlier vote.
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Rolled 45 (1d100)

>>4364979
>>4359001
This w as my last vote
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>>4364985
Sure thing boss.

This was me, sorry for not linking before.
>>4360123
>>4359703
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>>4364979
I look away for 2 minutes . . .
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>>4364985
>+5 & +1 Re-Roll in the Duke Pascae interaction.
This is meant to be 5DC right?
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>>4364992
Probs way we rolled so well....
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Yes, +5 re-rolls would be a bit much
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Damn. The infomation was quite sorely wanted. If thats the case then perhaps we should be dancing with her since its two different agendas.
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>>4365026
We're already getting info from Captain Lorenzo's roll anyways so let's see what it is first.
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>The Patrikas Ianthe - Persaude
>3 Success: Charming Escort. Your pleasant introduction helps immensely, the Patrikas is becoming a little enamoured with her gallant young escort. She also puts in a good word for you with the Duke. +5 & +1 Re-Roll in the Duke Pascae interaction
Cathagi MILF gib!

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Write-ins for the interactions with Lady Rabe mainly involved introducing her to your siblings and seeing them get along, a fairly easy roll all up even without a detailed write-in.

The Banquet Hall: Lady Brunhilde Rabe – Persaude
> Higher Social Standing (male) / Reasonable Request (introduce and befriend)
> 80DC
> Noble Privilege +1 Re-Roll
> Wealth +5DC
> Fashionable Attire +5DC, +1 Re-Roll
> Foreign Escort -5DC (Doesn’t trust foreign women)
> Save Face +1 Save
> Lady Rabe: Fashionable Attire -5DC, +1 Adverse Re-Roll
> 80DC

Double Fail = Sir Karlaus Rabe takes offence to Damien hitting on his sister.
0 = Loose lips sink ships, or so some sailors say. Roselyn is adverse to Brunhilde’s heart-on-her-sleeve openness and keeps her distance. For her part, Lady Rabe thinks your sister is a bit of an ice queen.
1 = Roselyn sees the advantage in befriending and utilising the Lady Rabe. Hardly a healthy motivation for making a friend, but you suspect that your sister views the social world more in terms of ‘allies’ than friends. If Lady Rabe suspects your sister is using her, she makes a good job
2 = Your sister regards the mouthy and amicable Lady Rabe the same way that a desert caraveener might view an unexpected body of water. Roselyn cannot wait to befriend, question and tap into that open oasis of juicy court rumours, it is a resource to be farmed carefully. Lady Rabe thinks your big sister is just the coolest.
3 = Opposites attract. Despite your sister’s cool appearance, she ends up quite liking the little mountain lass. She will happily use Lady Rabe as a gossip resource, but her affection means she won’t ruthlessly exploit this new tool. Despite her cool demeanour and calculating personality, you suspect that Roselyn Andrei has made an actual friend.
Double Success = Damien ‘likes her moxie’. A phrase you’re unfamiliar with, but Sir Karlaus Rabe thinks it is a great compliment.


NEW ROLLERS PLEASE. 3 rolls of 1d100, kniggas. You have TWO re-rolls and ONE save. Your opponent has ONE adverse re-roll.

Please, allow me to make the introductions…
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Rolled 38 (1d100)

>>4365043
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Rolled 58 (1d100)

>>4365043
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Rolled 77 (1d100)

>>4365043
Oh mother mercy please go well
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>>4365049
Yes! Let the courting begin
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>>4365049
SALVE REGIA BLESSES US THIS DAY
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Rolled 34 (1d100)

>>4365048
Attempting to counter this with the adverse re-roll
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>>4365049
>Emille skipping out on the Rabetrain
>Damien grabs it by the horns

WOOT WOOT RABETRAIN FOR THE ANDREI!
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Wonder if 4 interactions for the banquet hall could've worked too.
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>>4365064
That would have turned a 77 into a doubles fail. Fuck that.
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>>4365067
The rolls would've been different, plus we might have taken the +5 DC instead.
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>>4365069
None of those here in the banquet hall are from pascae. It would not have affected their DC.
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>>4365069
not really that 4th interaction would've been the tipping point for the roll and I don't see any other modifier that would've changed things for the better.
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>>4365074
No it applies to all persuade interactions here not just Pascae
>Your efforts to make friends and allies at this ball have so far met with mixed success, you need to do better. [+5DC to Persuade interactions in the next arena]
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>>4365080
Oh you meant that one. I was thinking more of the one from lord broulet. Still it would have been more foolish to get the DC rather than the reroll. Its utility is far greater.
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>Lady Brunhilde Rabe - Persuade
>3 Success: Opposites attract. Despite your sister’s cool appearance, she ends up quite liking the little mountain lass. She will happily use Lady Rabe as a gossip resource, but her affection means she won’t ruthlessly exploit this new tool. Despite her cool demeanour and calculating personality, you suspect that Roselyn Andrei has made an actual friend.
>Double Success: Damien ‘likes her moxie’. A phrase you’re unfamiliar with, but Sir Karlaus Rabe thinks it is a great compliment

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The Banquet Hall: Sir Marco Hewitt – Counter-Intrigue
> Equal Social Standing / Complicated Ploy (elicit information)
> 60DC
> Save Face +1 Save (single use)
> Captain Lorenzo: Slaver investigation success +10DC
> Animal Companion (Dame Stoutsworth) +1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll
> On Guard +1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll
> Sir Hewitt: Cloak and Daggers Trait -5DC to Intrigue, +1 Adverse Intrigue Re-Roll
> 65DC

Double Fail = Romani bumpkin. Hewitt’s more at home in the court than the deul circle, and it shows. +1 Adverse Re-Roll (single use) on the Dance Floor arena.
0 = Sir Hewitt plays you like a fiddle. He is able to take steps to ensure his interests are unaffected in the inevitable crackdown.
1 = Sir Hewitt finds out some details relating to your investigation, but it is far from certain that his house will escape unscathed.
2 = Sir Hewitt finds out little of use, but his line of interrogation leads you to believe there is a connection to his house.
3 = Sir Hewitt is an idiot. And worse, a proud idiot. He all but confirms his connection to the investigation, and the details he revealed will be of pertinent to the Praetor’s on the case.
Double Pass = Copper-clipper. You none too subtly remind him, and others, of how his last duel with you turned out. +1 Re-Roll (single use) on the Dance Floor arena.


NEW ROLLERS PLEASE. 3 rolls of 1d100. You have TWO re-rolls and ONE save. Your opponent has ONE re-roll.

Is that the clink of coppers being clipped, I hear?
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Rolled 22 (1d100)

>>4365110
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>>4365111
You magnificent knigga
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Rolled 89 (1d100)

>>4365110
get fucked copper clipper
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>>4365111

Nice trips, knigga. Burghers swerve

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agUaHwxcXHY
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>>4365111
>Double Pass = Copper-clipper. You none too subtly remind him, and others, of how his last duel with you turned out. +1 Re-Roll (single use) on the Dance Floor arena.

Sweet Salve Regina! I thank thee, Mother of Mercy.
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>>4365111
Eat shit lord copperclipper
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Rolled 95 (1d100)

>>4365110
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>>4365114
>>4365123
One of you best get to re-rolling boys
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>>4365114
>>4365123
Probably need to reroll these
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Rolled 46 (1d100)

>>4365123
Reroll
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I'll hold off my reroll till forgotten does his adverse.
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>>4365111
THOSE WHO CLIP COPPERS AREN'T KNIGHTS BUT ROBBERS
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>>4365115
Forgotten, does the on guard reroll roll over into the next other counter intrigues or must it be used here, else be wasted.
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>>4365132
It must be used in this arena or it is wasted
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Rolled 16 (1d100)

>>4365128
Using Sir Hewitt's adverse re-roll to attempt to counter this result.
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>>4365115
>dat video

>tall knight
>uses his shield to bash
>the shield even has Andrei colours
By the almighty... it’s perfect
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Rolled 2 (1d100)

>>4365110
>>4365114
Rerolling then.

>>4365135
Cheers forgotten
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>>4365141
>>4365136
>>4365111
And the Copper-clipper digs his grave with his own mouth!
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Man these rolls completely make up for the last area. Fuck that copper clipping, slave trading, son of a snake Hewitt
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>>4365141
God dammit.

So close.

If we do get to play as a copper clipper knight, what about a fledging knight from Hewitt, out to restore his house's name after such a scandal.
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>>4365111
>>4365128
>>4365136
>>4365141
Sir Hewitt getting fucked over again you love to see it
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>nooooo you just can't stop me from copperclipping! its not fairrrrrrrrrr
>Haha copperclipper go clang
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>>4365141
>>4365136
>>4365111

Looking at all these 3 success parts in this section and our previous social interactions in the quest, it's looking a lot like Emile is not great at social combat with people of a higher social class/experienced political animals (for obvious reasons) but can hold his own against his peers, or when he is acting in support of others. It's an interesting character development, and a bit refreshing to be someone who isn't well suited to diplomacy unlike a lot of old quests like Dungeon Life Quest, Lamia Daughter Quest etc.
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>>4365154
I still cant believe we got out of the sir gilbern interaction without a single succ. Even with all the rerolls.
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>>4365157
Yeah that was shocking. Hopefully we can mend things over time with him. I like Gilbern
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>>4365154
Honestly it's been going pretty well so far, the only regretful situation would be the roll with Sir Gilbern considering the DC.
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>>4365154
This really gives me the vibe that while Emille is not one of what you'd call histories ''great men'' he's one of those people who are absolutely what allow great men to move mountains so to speak.
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>>4365159
With any luck, he'll come to his senses after the inquiry tomorrow.

He'll realise hes actually right. Just that the faction in question is just The Almighty's Word
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>>4365157

Yeah, given how badly we botched that entire section, the biggest thing keeping Gilbern from basically writing us off as a sketchy sumbitch was the rapport we established long ago. I can't imagine how much shit would be flung around if we weren't comrades from our time together in Aubres and the Capital.
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>>4365165
I'm really hoping that's the case. Once he sees us there and fully connects the dots hopefully he will have a change of heart about us
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>>4365168

Whoops, forgot that the Vancewell stuff happened in Grenoble, which was in Romaine.
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The Banquet Hall
-Captain Torres Lorenzo [Intrigue]
>Captain Lorenzo - Intrigue
>3 Success: Called his bluff. In addition to finding out where Lazar is hiding out, you glean some insight into the slaver side of the investigation

“Captain-General Torres Lorenzo, a pleasure to see you again.”

“Ah mi scusi, have we met before?” The Langlish man accepts your proffered hand with an oily smile, a look of faint bemusement in his expression.

“In passing, on the road between Motte-Fallavon and Castle Duncan.” You lean in closer, as if letting the man in on a little secret. “You were on your way to fulfill a contract in northern Fallavon, as I recall. How did that turn out?”

“Of course!” Despite his words the man’s eyes betray that he still has no recollection of the encounter, perhaps all you Cantônians look alike to him. “As for the contract… our success was costly. I lost one of my best fighters, my Primus Pilus Giuseppe.”

“A skilled warrior. My condolences.”

“You knew Giueseppe?”

In a manner of speaking, you think. You were, after all, locked in deadly combat with the Langlish officer until a Bluejay put an arrow in his eye. “Personally? No. We knew each other professionally, though. The same way I know Quill Wavell.”

“You knew Giuseppe...” Captain Lorenzo’s expression has switched from curious to alarmed. “And you know Quill Wavell?”

“Through a mutual acquaintance, enough to make things difficult for your company at the next review of ongoing Pascae contracts.” It looks like you’ve gleaned all you can through subtlety, a more direct approach is now called for. “How will harbouring a wanted fugitive look on that committee?”

“…what do you want?”

“Lazar. Or whatever name he’s going by these days.”

…sapevo che avrei dovuto unirmi alla marina. La mamma aveva ragione. Captain Lorenzo winces, pinching the bridge of his nose. “…I need assurances. That our assistance will not jeopardise the Company’s position.”

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“No.” You shake your head, knowing that you have the Golden Sun dead to rights if you wanted. “I’m not offering you a deal. I want Lazar. And I want him alive. Otherwise, when the Praetor’s are done with their investigation, securing a contract in this Duchy will be the very least of your worries. ‘Il Contratto è Tutto’, as you people say.”

“…” You can see the gears in Captain Lorenzo’s head work as he weighs up whether covering for Lazar, and his connections, is worth the risk of endangering his Company’s position. It does not take long for the mercenary captain to make his decision. Dannazione i tuoi occhi…, very well. I will make arrangements.”

"See that you do. I will expect results shortly."

You leave the Captain-General stewing in the corner of the banquet hall, watching you sourly and muttering under his breath. Il Contratto è Tutto, figlio di puttana…”

[2/6]
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>>4365236
>sapevo che avrei dovuto unirmi alla marina. La mamma aveva ragione

I knew I should've joined the navy, mom was right

kek.
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-The Patrikas Ianthe [Persuade]
>The Patrikas Ianthe - Persaude
>3 Success: Charming Escort. Your pleasant introduction helps immensely, the Patrikas is becoming a little enamoured with her gallant young escort. She also puts in a good word for you with the Duke. +5DC & +1 Re-Roll in the Duke Pascae interaction

You and the Patrikas have discussed this moment almost to exhaustion. Ianthe looks the very picture of sereness as you make your approach to the Duke’s seat at the Banquet Hall, but halfway there she grips your hand and you give it a reassuring squeeze. You hope you can cover your own nervousness half as well as she does.

“Your Grace, may I humbly introduce the esteemed Patrikas Ianthe, late of Cathagi shores…” Your deep blow is executed flawlessly, your lips nearly brush the immaculately polished floor as you sweep down in the hosting Duke’s presence. “I am Sir Emile Andrei, son of Lord Nikolai Andrei, and most pleased to act in the capacity of escort-d'honneur for the Lady. I beg a moment of your consideration for the Lady’s time, I believe Your Grace will find it most beneficial.”

You had worried that you would stumble over your words, this is by the far most you have ever said to a man of the Duke Leonardo Pascae’s status. Probably the most senior ranked person in the Kingdom you have ever met, actually. Well, the King was present at the end of your First Vigil but that hardly counts. He barely said two words to you, other than to comment on your height. The Duke Leonardo’s house colours may be blue and yellow, as demonstrated in the livery everywhere, but the man himself seems to be very fond of the colour white. He frilled outfit is white, as is the garments of his closest attendants and bodyguards.

“My, my Ianthe. You certainly can pick them.” Your courtly bow inadvertently highlights the supple musculature rippling under your tight attire. The Duke’s eyes linger on you appreciatively. Perhaps too appreciatively. Finally he turns his attention to the Patrikas Ianthe. “Come dear, take a seat. I have some idea of what this is about. A moment of privacy, my doves? Splendid! Oh and Sir Andrei, do be sure to say hi before the night is done, won’t you?”

“I wouldn’t dream of it, Your Grace.” You don’t know what to think about the Duke referring to the four muscular white-clothed manservants/bodyguards being referred to as ‘doves’, but overall you think that went very well.

“Superb! Now Ianthe, darling. I can call you Ianthe, yes? I just -love- your dress.” That is the last glimpse you receive of the two before one of the attractive bodyguards ushers you aware. “Now before we get down to the droll matter of business, darling, tell me more about that charming young piece you walked in here with…”

[3/6]
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>>4365240
[Concern intensifies]
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-Lady Brunhilde Rabe [Persuade]
>Lady Brunhilde Rabe - Persuade
>3 Success: Opposites attract. Despite your sister’s cool appearance, she ends up quite liking the little mountain lass. She will happily use Lady Rabe as a gossip resource, but her affection means she won’t ruthlessly exploit this new tool. Despite her cool demeanour and calculating personality, you suspect that Roselyn Andrei has made an actual friend.
>Double Success: Damien ‘likes her moxie’. A phrase you’re unfamiliar with, but Sir Karlaus Rabe thinks it is a great compliment

Introducing your siblings to the Rabes is a straightforward matter, the very kind of innocent socialising that this ball is ostensibly intended for. From the moment you step away and help yourself to a piece of caviar on thin-bread, a privileged treat you don’t get very much of at home, Brunhilde and Roselyn are engrossed in deep conversation. Or, to be more accurate, Lady Rabe talks up a storm while your sister listens in rapt attention.

“The Marquis and the Admiral’s daughter, you don’t say…”

“Omigosh I’m so sorry, who wants to hear about that sort of thing?”

“I do.”

“Wait, really? This is usually the part where someone tells me to shut up.” Lady Rabe frets, looking shamefacedly down at her dress. “Politely, of course.”

“If anyone here tells you to shut up you then just tell me. And make sure you get their name.”

Lady Rabe’s head pops up, surprised. “Their name? Why?”

“So I can track them down and destroy them.” Roselyn treats her new friend to one of her winning smiles. “Politely, of course.”

“HAHahahaa!!!” Heads turn at the unladylike guffaw until Brunhilde selfconciously switches into a more suitably feminine titter. Only you and your brother know how little of what Roselyn said was a joke. “I mean, oh pardon me- Teeheeehee, oh stop it! What is an absolute gem like you doing in a place like this?”

“Trying to get my brother reacclimatised to civilisation.” Roselyn’s large gulp from her wine class helps underline how much of an effort she thinks task is proving to be. “Maybe even find him a potential wife, if it will stop him running off on harebrained adventures. Though I dread letting any of the air-head doxies here latch on to him as a suitor.”

[4/6]
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>>4365244
critfail later means Sir Andrei gets forced into bed by the Duke kek
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“A wife? He’s single? Oh. My. Gosh! We could be sisters!” You’ve never quite seen any expression match the description of ‘gleaming like stars’ until you look Lady Rabe’s eyes positively sparkle with unbridled glee. “Are all your brothers like my brother’s friend? Of the tall, dark and handsome persuasion?”

“You flatter them both...” Roselyn drops her guard with a genuine smirk. “But yes, they’re not ugly wretches, if you go for that sort of thing.”

“I do go for that sort of thing! I really do! Father says we should be working on allies for our iron market anyway, and one comely Romani lad for that is a fair trade, wouldn’t you say?” Brunhilde nods wisely at her own words, glibly giving away what might be considered by some to be a sensitive Household concern. The candor in which Lady Rabe addresses the reality of political marriages is refreshingly blunt, but not quite polite. Nor is the following proposition. “Is that him there? With the cane? Oh, the poor thing! …I’ll take him.”

Sir Rabe splutters, spilling mouthfuls from his cup of wine. “Brunhilde!”

“Oh, don’t mind me. I rather like her moxie.” Sir Rabe recovers from his embarrassment and roars with laughter, slapping Damien’s back as you struggle to keep a straight face. Your brother winks at your appalled expression. “You really think Mother wouldn’t trade me in for a slice of that iron market? She wouldn’t even ask for change.”

The five of you all have a sensible chuckle at the jest, and the next few minutes of open conversation with the group are some of the most genuinely enjoyable moments of the evening. But the calculating look on your Roselyn’s face makes you wonder whether you might be looking at your future sister-in-law here.

[5/6]
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*Sir Marco Hewitt [Counter-Intrigue]
>3 Success: Sir Hewitt is an idiot. And worse, a proud idiot. He all but confirms his connection to the investigation, and the details he revealed will be of pertinent to the Praetor’s on the case.
>Double Pass: Copper-clipper. You none too subtly remind him, and others, of how his last duel with you turned out. +1 Re-Roll (single use) on the Dance Floor arena.

“I wonder what a man like you would have to say to the Langlish mercenary captain.”

You turn at the unpleasantly familiar voice, not deigning to offer a response to Sir Marco Hewitt as you quite literally look down your nose at him. Of course, the little man can’t resist the sound of his own voice.

“That ledger won’t help you, you know.” Sir Hewitt’s smirk practically radiates hubris. “Oh it will cause some inconvenience, I’m sure. But not where it matters. The players are all too busy at snapping at one another’s throats while they ignore some real money to be made.”

You sigh, this venal man can be so utterly tiresome. “Is this going to be a repeat of our earlier duel? Where you try something underhanded and I utterly embarrass you?”

Sir Hewitt’s expression turns stormy, a bright shade of red settling in his face. “With the money I’m making on this next shipment I could buy you! And your whole wretched little family fief!”

“I can’t argue with a copper-clipper about the value of a coin, I suppose.” You sip your wine, as if struggling to think. Finally you blink in mock realization. “Is that how you bought your way in here tonight? Peddling human flesh like a Cathagi butcher?”

A shocked gasped, a peal of laughter. A woman’s laugh, perhaps directed at Sir Hewitt. Perhaps not. But in any case the man’s face turns a bright shade of red, he is visibly shaking with anger. “You dare?!”

“Oh please do challenge me.” A flare of excitement builds in your stomach, the kind of guilty yearning for violence that you will most likely have to confess to Father Towbray later. For now, you let the eager venom drip into your voice. “For once I’d like to kill a knight that actually had it coming.”

Sir Hewitt’s eye twitchs at the mention Sir de Broulert. If the flower of Pascae chivalry fared so ill against you, doubtless this burgher knight is going to fare little better. He scowls and storms away, nearly bowling over one of the guests in his effort to make himself scarce.

[6/7]
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Tiny claws press a metal object into your hands. A coin. With the familiar one-winged dragon emblazoned across its surface. You find it amusing to no end that the edges of the coin do indeed appear to have been clipped at some point. Pinned underneath is a detailed ribbon-mark. The kind of mark that a ship’s captain might use.

“Excellent work, girl.” You whisper into your half-surcoat, sometimes you forget the little whitecoat ermine is even huddled up in there. “Now what was Sir Hewitt doing carrying a coin like this?”

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> If you can find someone to act as a trusted messenger, you can arrange to have this evidence and a note explaining your discoveries so far to the Praetor Commandery tonight. [Send Message to Praetor’s office]

>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
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>>4365248
>“Is that him there? With the cane? Oh, the poor thing! …I’ll take him.”

'Lady Rabe pls.

>You really think Mother wouldn’t trade me in for a slice of that iron market? She wouldn’t even ask for change.”

Oh Damien. You have no idea.
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This has been one of the most genuinely enjoyable sessions of StV so far. This writing is great and the ball so far has been a lot of fun despite our failures.

>>4365252
> If you can find someone to act as a trusted messenger, you can arrange to have this evidence and a note explaining your discoveries so far to the Praetor Commandery tonight. [Send Message to Praetor’s office]
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>>4365252
>> If you can find someone to act as a trusted messenger, you can arrange to have this evidence and a note explaining your discoveries so far to the Praetor Commandery tonight. [Send Message to Praetor’s office]
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>>4365246
>>4365244
What would you be willing to sacrifice for +5DC?
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>>4365256
Some Albani warmachines?
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>>4365252
HMM.

Forgotten, does that +5DC apply to Lady vancewell and her counter intrigue.

>>4365256
Nothing an altar boy wouldnt
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>>4365258
>does that +5DC apply to Lady vancewell and her counter intrigue.

Yes, though your initial courtship roll is likely to have a much bigger impact. Depending on how you go.
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>>4365252
>> If you can find someone to act as a trusted messenger, you can arrange to have this evidence and a note explaining your discoveries so far to the Praetor Commandery tonight. [Send Message to Praetor’s office]
>>4357560
Me
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>>4365252
>>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]

This piece of evidence can be delivered to the Praetors personally later. The only reason why we'd pass a note and the evidence is if we want them to conduct a full raid of the Hewitt holdings while the scion is in attendance of the ball right now and I dont think they'll risk incurring the duke's ire with that.
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>>4365256
As in what duke would do to us?
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>>4365248

God, it's so nice to see pleasant social interactions. Passing thought I had from earlier is that if things go well in the future and Damien gets married to Lady Rabe, we can use the excuse to visit the Rabe Oathstone and swear the blood oath listed under Karlaus' loyalty requisites. Even if there is no marriage, we can still be joined in blood oath, and if we are, it'll cement and deepen the house ties further. I don't expect them to turn on the marriage in that case, but securing it in that manner will help show solidarity in Montbrun by showing regard for their traditions beyond normal marriage rites.

>>4365252


> If you can find someone to act as a trusted messenger, you can arrange to have this evidence and a note explaining your discoveries so far to the Praetor Commandery tonight. [Send Message to Praetor’s office]

+5dc is nice, but it's WAY more important to ensure the killer is brought to justice. This evidence will make the case stronger, and maybe help persuade the Praetor to overlook the fact that we weren't entirely acting to the letter of the law.
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>>4365263
Another consideration is the sheer idea of finding a trustworthy servant here. Its pascae, land of copper clippers. I wouldnt trust any of the servants here unless they were our own men. Its entirely possible the note would be read and the messenger rewarded handsomely should he/she approach the hewitts with the evidence and the note.
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>>4365266
That's actually a pretty compelling argument. This place is a den of intrigue and political maneuvering. Letting this evidence out of our sight might be risky. I may change my vote, but I'd like to see what others think first
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>>4365252
>>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]

>>4365266
Yea, thats a good point. Is there a rush for the cops to see the evidence? Otherwise theres no reason to let this out of our sight.
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>>4365252
>>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]

CHAD KNIGHT IS GO
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>>4365270
>>4360245me plox no bulli
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>>4365252
>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
Surely we deserve a +7 or +10 for our gallant victories?
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>>4365252
>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You should capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
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also how many people saw hewitt just then?
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>>4365252
>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
Can't trust anyone at the ball.
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>>4365263
also they could hurt the hewitt girl fuck i feel so bad for her
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>>4365252
>If you can find someone to act as a trusted messenger, you can arrange to have this evidence and a note explaining your discoveries so far to the Praetor Commandery tonight. [Send Message to Praetor’s office]
Finding the killer is the most important thing

Though I do hope we have a chance with the Princess...
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>>4365267
>>4365266
>>4365263

Given these three anon's arguments, I'm going to switch my vote from here >>4365265 to

>>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]

I still think that it's important to give the info to the Praetor, but it can probably wait. The big reason I voted the way before was because depending on how the rest of the ball goes, especially with the high nobility and royalty encounters planned out, it would be best to get the information to him before we become a persona non grata by tripping ass-backwards into failure. As well, we have the inquiry early tomorrow, and there's precious little time inbetween to get it to him before we talk with the bishop and the Reginate (who may have a massive malus if we botch his section). However way the dice fall tonight though, we should get one of our men who wasn't here to pass on the information to the Praetor before the inquiry happens. Probably Brother Rousseau since as a member of the Knights Comitas, he's less likely to be accosted in the streets of Pasecae
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>>4365252
Switching my vote here
>>4365254

To
>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]

>>4365285
I agree Brother Rousseau is likely the best choice for delivering the evidence. He's a warrior and a man of the cloth. Jess can go with him to keep him safe (obviously she'll stay out of sight as much as possible)
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>>4365252
>>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
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>>4365266
Only if we have bird that can carry messages or something
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>>4365252
>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
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>>4365240
>Your courtly bow inadvertently highlights the supple musculature rippling under your tight attire. The Duke’s eyes linger on you appreciatively.
>come dear, take a seat. I have some idea of what this is about. A moment of privacy, my doves? Splendid! Oh and Sir Andrei, do be sure to say hi before the night is done, won’t you?”
>“Superb! Now Ianthe, darling. I can call you Ianthe, yes? I just -love- your dress.”

Gay Kniggaaaa

>>4365248
Matchmaking Damien with Lady Rabe lets GO!

>>4365252
aww shit here we go I fucking called it he's in on it typical. fucking. copperclipper.

>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
> If you can find someone to act as a trusted messenger, you can arrange to have this evidence and a note explaining your discoveries so far to the Praetor Commandery tonight. [Send Message to Praetor’s office]

Priority top to bottom, while we could very well be catching Hewitt or others with their pants down our dispatch of a messenger will be noticed prehaps by someone with the desire to keep thing quiet, further more as others have already said we may not be able to secure a safe channel to send such a missive .

Therefore Courtship over justice at this point due to interception concerns

we should of bought Jess along

>>4365256
Throw in some plumes and its a deal!
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>>4365255
Switching to
>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
Need all the help Emile can get for the ladies considering our luck so far
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>>4365252
>>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]

Can we agree to hold off using the one reroll we got here for Vancewell or the Princess? Daubeny is nice but failing her interaction isn't going to cost us our head.
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>>4365296
Tha'ts what the Face Save is for anon. That and to get into the Princesses pants
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>>4365296
Im more willing to more keen on Vancewell then the princess, getting the princess to dance is more an accomplishment in the audacity of it than a vested interest.
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>>4365298
I'm personally more inclined to use that for the bishop or any nat 100 that presents itself. Its the only way to save a critfail.

>>4365296
Well we do at least have a single reroll on each encounter since Lady Stoutsworth has that courtship reroll.
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>>4365300
Oh yeah for sure, it isn't as if we have any real hope with the princess and our inquiry with the bishop is going to be extremely important to say the least
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>>4365298
Only a nat 1 can get us there. Vancewell on the other hand. You know she wants to hatefuck us the moment we met.
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>inb4 dc bonus for foiling all her plans
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>>4365252

> If you can find someone to act as a trusted messenger, you can arrange to have this evidence and a note explaining your discoveries so far to the Praetor Commandery tonight. [Send Message to Praetor’s office]

Y'all Kniggas thirsty AF. Well. I can't be upset with either outcome.

Too bad we can't get both. Like getting Damien to retire early because of his wounds or something and take the coin, while we go off wooing.
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>>4365307
nah damo is too wounded to be used like that keep him safe
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>>4365303
>Nat 1
>Vancewell wants it then and there
>Nat 100
>She wants it but everyone knows
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>>4365252
>>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
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Imagine sir gilberns shadoweuns as we make our way through the langlish, duke with our foreign escort and then sending Hewitt packing.

>This doesnt make any sense, what is he up to??
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>>4365307
Thats not a bad Idea except for the fact Damien is wounded & may be a target for other parties present like the Order regina
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>>4365316
>gilberns state of dress becomes worse and worse desheviled and tired with bagged eyes as the long (k)nights drinking trying to piece together the andrie conspiracy take their toll
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>>4365316
there's still the last counter intrigue with Lord Gilbern so maybe he'll get involved somehow?
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>>4365252
>If you can find someone to act as a trusted messenger, you can arrange to have this evidence and a note explaining your discoveries so far to the Praetor Commandery tonight. [Send Message to Praetor’s office]

Great job Dame Stoutsworth.

>>4365324
I wonder why Lord Caspian Gilbern is engaging in intrigue against Emile since he has never even met Emile before. I was hoping Sir Robert Gilbern would clue us in.
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>>4365325
Considering what sir Gilbern has said and the Implications of a Gilbern being the Archbishop I'm willing to bet that their is an investment in our investigation failing.
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>>4365325
I think Gilbern just engages in intrigue with everyone. It's his default setting. Probably goes home and intrigues against his wife, suspicious she's collaborating with his dog to sneak out treats from the dinner table.
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>>4365329
He's still single IIRC. Too bad we couldn't get that doubles, him and our sister would make a terrifying couple intrigue wise
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>>4365329
heh
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>>4365325

Given Sir Gilbern let us know previously that his relationship is strained with his father, it may be him trying to suss out if we are in league with him and the Reginate. I doubt that Lord Gilbern is in the conspiracy given what we currently have for information, but it may be an ally of an allied house type of relationship or the like. If Lord Caspian is on the opposite side, or just biding his time for an opportunity, he might try and press us for information on what his son is doing and our relationship to him. After all, given that we were clearly friendly enough before Sir Gilbern had his stoneface on, we could give him some insights into the thought processes of the Queen's Second Herald, a massive boon to the Prince's faction.

>Shadowruns inside of shadowruns inside of shadowruns.

>>4365329
>My darling wife wore white stockings today. The Duke loves the colour white. Wife plotting with Duke to sway markets away from dyes? Dog ate white treats this morning? Dog is in cahoots with Wife and Duke, must ensure dog is not taken on next hunting trip as it's sudden but inevitable betrayal will cause me to be shot by the Langlishman on the Grassy Knoll.
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>>4365330
Thry still actually have yet to chat with one another. If we arrange another meet before we leave, it might happen.
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>>4365252
>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]

>>4365312
>She marries us to protect her honor.
>Still plots to kill us every night after passionate steamy sex
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>>4365326
Wouldn't it be the Bishop himself counter-intriguing us then? I think it has more to do with Lord Gilbern himself than House Gilbern in general. Sir Robert Gilbern did say that his family are not on the best of terms. The Bishop's opinion on Emile is likely not the same as Lord Caspian Gilbern's. That would be why the former isn't counter-intriguing us while the latter is.

>>4365329
That would make sense. I can see him as political animal who genuinely enjoys intrigue for the sake of it.

>>4365333
>After all, given that we were clearly friendly enough before Sir Gilbern had his stoneface on, we could give him some insights into the thought processes of the Queen's Second Herald, a massive boon to the Prince's faction.

I don't think Sir Robert Gilbern would like that at all. He'll likely become upset at us for betraying him and going behind his back like that. Forgotten did say that it's best to not get involved in Sir Robert Gilbern's family affairs.
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>>4365252
>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]

>>4365256
All the Kids.
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>>4365256
>>4365261
Forgotten, can you please tell us when will the next rolls start?
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>>4365338

>I don't think Sir Robert Gilbern would like that at all. He'll likely become upset at us for betraying him and going behind his back like that. Forgotten did say that it's best to not get involved in Sir Robert Gilbern's family affairs.

I could have worded that better. I'm not suggesting that we purposely blab to his father about everything we know about Sir Gilbern. However, we may be tripped up due to being shit with words against experienced political machines. It's not just what we say, what we don't say can say enough to an intelligent man. An accidental slip of the tongue could cut deep as shit.

>Sir Andrei, how did you might you have come to know my precious son?
>Lord Gilbern, I've met Sir Gilbern in the process of prosecuting the false knight Vancewell in Grenoble (A given, and likely old news).
>Lord Gilbern thinks that we are in with the Reginates, a bit of a dim tool, but a pawn that could be used. Knowing that we parted ways afterwards, and went to Fallavon were we fucked up Fallavon's heir, and Sir Gilbern was there, could pin that we might know about what happened there if Lord Gilbern's involved in the Faction. If Lord Gilbern is not in the Faction, could sell that information to Faction people that he knows, and win favours.

Again, there's a tonne that he could gleam from us if we fuck up that roll bad enough, and we aren't in a position to slough off his conversation, considering that we are at a ball, know his son, and are lower on the totem pole. Plus, if things are even worse in House Gilbern than we expect, we might simply be used as a wedge or a barb between father and son. Political stuff like this always gives me a migraine.
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>>4365252
>>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
though call really. I can see why making sure we don't lose the evidence, and potentially making moves before the players present can react or realise what we have learned could be smart. On the other hand isn't Holt present here? I imagine that would limit the actions of the on duty preators unless Holt left or we get his signature empowering them to do whatever they deem right.
Also i really don't want to undermine our progress by bungling the dance floor, and feed into the /qst/ pc can't dance trope this board seems to love.
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>>4365337
>Every encounter with Vancewell is a roll of the dice on weither it bloody or sweet.

I want this

>>4365338
I think Lord Gilbern is the reason the Arch-bishop is a Gilbern and that Influence and power may be at least partially wrapped up in our investigation into the ledger and possibly the slave trade.

Sir Gilbern seems to have an Idea of whats wrapped up in our investigation and I take that as further implication of Lord Gilberns if not House Gilbern at large's involvment.
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>>4365337
>daily counter intrigue rolls to foil her plans
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>>4365342
I will try to get them going tomorrow night, roughly 24 hours now. Everything is a little busy on my end IRL with packing, goodbyes and debauchery.
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>>4365352
When you put it like that, then it makes sense yeah.

>>4365356
That possibly might be the case. However, I think it might be because Lord Gilbern is either a political animal or a Faction member. The latter would explain why Sir Robert Gilbern isn't on good terms with his lord father.

>>4365360
Much obliged then. See you tomorrow.
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>>4365354
>On the other hand isn't Holt present here?

He was invited, but the breakthrough with the ledger has him and the other Praetors burning candlelight at the Commandery. The scope of that discovery goes beyond the slaver ring and killer investigations. Though frankly with your rolls in this arena you have quite neatly put the pin in both. Lazar handed over re the killer's identity and this hot lead for the Hewitt shipment.
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>>4365360
Hey Forgotten what's the Bishop's relation to Lord Gilbern? Cousin, sibling, nephew etc.
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>>4365364
Cousin
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>>4365363
So wait. Would the information we send to the preators tonight actually make them do a raid tonight? And will it include lanzer’s location? Since right not it appears his boss hasnt given up that info right now.
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>>4365362
I mean I'm not going to rule that out, he could be both he could neither we'll have to see when his counter-intrigue rolls round and if/when we learn more about hte family.
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>>4365366
You don't have Lazar's location, but you've managed to strongarm the Langlish mercenary captain into handing him over. And without serious concessions, a nice touch.

As for what sending the information to the Praetor's tonight might risk or instigate, that's something that I certainly cannot just give a plain answer.
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>>4365326
>a Gilbern being the Archbishop
>a Gilbern being the Second herald
>Gilbern being one of the most influential families in the duchy
They really are an elite family. Can i get a quick rundown on the Gilberns?
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>>4365357
The Andrei household : Lady Frida Vancewell – Counter-Intrigue

> Equal Social Standing / Straightforward Ploy (Give Andrei jr more broccoli)
> 80DC
>Performance in the bedroom last (k)night +10DC
> Didn’t complement her new hairstyle yesterday -11DC
> Animal Companion (Dame Stoutsworth) +1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll
> Lady vancewell: Cloak and Daggers Trait -5DC to Intrigue, +1 Adverse Intrigue Re-Roll
>Lady Vancewell: Doting mother -5DC

> 69DC

A Growing Boy Needs To Eat Meat Dammit!
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>>4365370
hmm nice catch, maybe Sir Gilberns appointment wasn't soley out of Merit even if he is estranged.
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>>4365372
kek
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>>4365363
The Praetors are the ones who'll be handling the arrests and interrogations of Lazar and Sir Marco Hewitt (if he's implicated) as well as everything else since they've officially taken over both the slaver ring and killer investigations, right? Emile will be assisting them with the investigations like he did with the brothel's mass arrests, correct?

BTW Forgotten, Sir Marco Hewitt's illegal activities will obviously put him in chains, but it'll be just a huge scandal for the other members of House Hewitt, am I right?
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>>4365372
ha

>Yfw she hates mice and Dame stoutsworth is a contextual -5dc
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>>4365372

>Critfail occurs!

>The young Sir Andrei grows disdainful of meat, and sticks to a vegetarian diet for the foreseeable future.
>Gain -10DC to further Persuade rolls to get the young lordling to partake in manly hunting pursuits.
>Gain -5DC to next Counter-Intrigue from Lady Vancewell (Made Son Develop Womanly Tastes)
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>>4365375
I think Hewitt's fate will rest on if he's implicated, the integrity of the court and if any sponsors think it prudent to intervene.

dammit at this rate i'm going to flip-flop on sending word to the Praetors in case evidence is destroyed.
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>>4365372
The mightiest of keks.
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>>4365375
Also, has Primus Pilus decided that Emile is worthy of the rank of deputy now, or will it wait till one of or both investigations are done?

>>4365376
Dame Stoutsworth is an ermine though.
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>>4365380
small furry critters then
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>>4365378
I'm of two minds myself but still leaning towards keeping the coin.

Unlike the other pieces of evidence, we only have this one coin, what are the Hewitts going to do? Throw it all into the sea? Spend it all? First is unthinkable for copper-clippers, the second will leave a massive trail for coin changed into a new currency or spend with merchants since they were obviously paid in Dragons. The other option would be the wholesale slaughter of the product, the slaves which they admittedly might do but would be more hesitant due to the utter loss they'll suffer.

So we might risk some things getting away but I'm sure we'll nail most of those involved with the presence of this coin and i'd rather not risk losing it.
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>>4365370
House Gilbern is old money, one of the OG Pascae Households. Every bit the lineage and prestige of old House Andrei, if not more so, and House Gilbern never experienced a Duchy-spanning undead disaster that reduced them to the most remote of their old estates.

They have been the right-hand men of several generations of Pascae dukes, even marrying into the family at several points. Sir Robert Gilbern was raised with a silver spoon in his mouth and Lord Gilbern has done very well to effectively hold the keys to the most wealthy city on the continent.

Sir Andrei knows that Sir Gilbern had a falling out with his family (more specifically his father). Whether this had anything to do with his decision to join the Ordo Reginate is unknown to Sir Andrei, but it speaks miles to House Gilbern's influence, reach and reputation that even the black sheep of the family would eventually rise from the ranks of the Reginate and become a Queen's Herald. Note that his immediate peer, the Third Herald, is a Lord in his own right.


>>4365375
This runs way to close to the meta of current events for me to answer, given that your prediction depends heavily on rolls (and perhaps choices) still to come.
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>>4365383
Thats fair however the Praetors have the ledger and are burning candlelight to make progress on it, depending on whats in that ledger may have evidence that we may need to seize immediatelly to implicate key individuals and properly bring this ring to light and justice.

on the other hand it could be nothing and we tip our hand and they start destroying people/thing because we got hyped up on justice juice.
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>>4365386
Who are the Alexandis then?
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>>4365390
Seconding this since they're Romani as well. How do they compare to the Andreis/Norveskis/Vidras?
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>>4365386
>They have been the right-hand men of several generations of Pascae dukes

oh dear that implication
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>>4365387
Yes, thing is if they find very incriminating evidence from that ledger that they need to move now, they won't need our coin to do so; the ledger will tell them all they need to make the arrest now.

One thing i'm concerned about that we might lose would be a hypothetical situation where a filled vessel of slaves leaves port tonight while security is concentrated on the Duke's ball, meaning more lax customs. I'm still hoping that the Preators are not complete fools and do have some force overseeing the docks.
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>>4365390
They're a respectable House from east Romaine, and that's the rough neighborhood of the Duchy. They are not high on the Duchess' favoured list, given that they are some of the more stringent pro-Queen supporters of the Church in Romaine. Somewhat obvious, I suppose, given that the head of their House is the Third Herald.

>>4365391
More powerful than House Vidra, less powerful than House Norveski. So around the same level as House Andrei, all told.
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>>4365383
I just wanna add that we don't know whether the other Hewitts aside from Sir Marco are involved in the slaver ring or even know of it. Lord Hewitt himself is bedridden and has left his brother and his wife to manage things in his stead.

>>4365386
Is it all meta. I think it has already been stated in an update that the Praetors have taken over both investigations and made them official ones. What about this>>4365380 btw?
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>>4365396
>Is it all meta.

Is it all meta?*
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>>4365396
I'm happy to answer questions about the lore but your questions aren't necessarily anything Sir Emile Andrei could possibly know.
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Rolled 84 (1d100)

>>4365372
Knigga, fuck broccoli
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>>4365398
Oh, apologies then? What can you tell us about House Romaine? What is their current standing with House Andrei currently? Are they liege lords of House Andrei with House Andrei as their direct vassals, or is House Andrei a direct vassal of another lower house that is turn a direct vassal of House Romaine?
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>>4365401
>apologies then?
>their direct vassals

Apologies then.*

Their direct vassal*
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Rolled 96 (1d100)

>>4365372
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>>4365394
my only issue is we have several key pieces of information, we've been confronted by Hewitt who knows we have the ledger and is confident things won't pan out along with a Carthaggi coin and depending on Lord Gilberns counter-intrigue may potentially reveal, none of these are things that the praetors may know with the ledger in hand and if it will be prudent to act on the information tonight.
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hey forgotten how well know are emiles acts eg vancewell case/ marquis injuring/penance
curios what our bro Sir Glasdale thinks of our shenanigans
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>>4365410
I think the risk of jumping the gun is a little too high to act tonight. As was mentioned, the Praetors are working through the night to organize all the evidence and go through the ledger so it doesn't make sense to act before we (they) have a complete picture.

We theoretically could go there directly after the ball and add what we know and have now to the case and come morning (assuming they're ready) they can begin the raids.
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>>4365252
>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
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Rolled 76 (1d100)

>>4365372
Not today Frida
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>>4365252
>>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]

If we travel to Montbrun we'll have the opportunity to become brothers for life with Karlaus!
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House Andrei is one of the more minor bannermen that can be called up directly by House Romaine. There was a point, around the time that House Andrei lost control of their vassals following the Night of Three Sisters, that House Norveski actually attempted to subsume House Andrei or bring them under as vassals of their own. The Duchess preferred to have a minor house under her wing rather than give more power to an already powerful vassal, so they supported your family on that matter even when things weren't going too well for House Andrei in the Romani courts. This vassal issue has thankfully been largely forgotten since the War of Borders when your grandfather's generation (and very young Father) had bigger worries like a Cathagi invasion.

But back to House Romaine, the inheritors of House Ardenne's mandate. Of all the powerful old Houses of Lost Ardenne, it was House Romaine that had most of it's estates centred in the west. Thus the survivors of Ardenne rallied around their banner or, like House Andrei, pledged their fealty just to ensure they were not subsumed by neighboring Duchies or larger local survivors.

>>4365411
>Vancewell case
A good bit of gossip for the end of winter, but not a huge deal to people that didn't comprehend the deeper implications. And keep in mind that Sir Gilbern actually wielded the blade. Sir Glasdale would have heard of this, and very likely would have assumed you were in the right.

>Marquis Injury
Sir Glasdale wouldn't have heard of this. But certainly it's the talk of the town in the less remote areas of Fallavon. Talk will flare up again in Romaine when the Marquis, a renowned jouster, fails to attend.

>Penance
This, combined with slaying a very popular Pascae knight the very same day, has made you something of a local wheelhouse for gossip and speculation. Some rumours, like this Romani knight hearing divine voices, is obviously balderdash. But plenty of people in this Duchy are looking at you with something approaching celebrity status. Again, this news would not have reached Sir Glasdale.
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>>4365400
>>4365408
>>4365422
Shit I didn’t think any of you knights would actually roll.
Uuuuh one of you get to re roll I guess
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Rolled 58 (1d100)

>>4365428
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Rolled 61 (1d100)

>>4365432
Countering with Frida’s adverse reroll
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>>4365433
Looks like young Emile will be eating cabbages but only today.
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>>4365427
Interesting. What happened to House Ardenne? Are there any left? Is House Andrei related to House Ardenne (such as being a descendant cadet branch of House Ardenne for example)?
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>>4365372
>>4365400
>>4365408
>>4365422
>>4365432
> 1 success
Andrei jr is duped into eating extra broccoli and doesn’t quite mind it, though it is far from his favorite food. He feels a bit bloated from the larger meal but is still what to go hunting with you this afternoon. (-5DC in tracking roll during the hunt)
Your wife give you a smug look of triumph, victory is hers. For today at least...
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It is curious that both of the leaders of the Faction (Crown Prince Lionel Aubres and Duke Friedrich Montbrun) are here. Whatever they're here for must be truly important for the Faction if it requires both of their presences.

The Rabes and Sir Norwache are likely going to be interacting with Duke Friedrich Montbrun since they're from Montbrun. Sir Norwache is also likely going to be interacting with Lady Frida Vancewell since House Norwache is a direct vassal of House Vancewell who're their liege lords.
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>>4365439
>What happened to House Ardenne?
The same thing that happened to most of their realm. The Night of the Three Sisters.

>Are there any left?
To your knowledge, no.

>Is House Andrei related to House Ardenne
Yes if you go back far enough. At the height of House Andrei power there were marriages to very distant branches of House Ardenne. But it would be FAR from the strongest claim on the title going by bloodline in Romaine, even without the complication of matrilineal inheritance.
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>>4365443
What were the historical reasons for women having way more influence in Romaine compared to the other Duchies?
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>>4365443
I see. Cheers Forgotten. Thanks for all the lore. See you tomorrow and have a good night.
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>>4365252
>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]

We are going to need that +5, plus Hewitt didn't get anything from us so his scurrying around try to hide evidence might actually help us discover his business.
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>>4365445
The initial reason was House Romaine's ascendance to power following the Night of the Three Sisters. The Duchess was by far the only viable candidate to keep a Duchy going, but all of her surviving descendants were female. It faced little resistance in Romaine as, after the horrific battles and toll on the male population especially following the Fall of Ardenne, many surviving Ardenne houses were in a similar situation. There just weren't sons left alive to inherit. The introduction of a matrilineal inheritance (barring any sons in the main family) was to prevent these houses breaking up yet again. One could say that the practical reason for it continuing is that women became somewhat accustomed to not being treated like chattel, or at least having a little more say, and have done their utmost to encourage the men of the households to focus on keeping the Deadmen at bay while they actually run things. Even with the Holy Order posts present at the border of Ardenne, there is still a constant toll on Romaine's resources of able-bodied men that other Duchies do not experience outside of short bursts of violence and war.

I think that's a bit more sophisticated reasoning than what Sir Emile Andrei makes of the situation, but I'm happy to leave that open to interpretation.
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>>4365464
Do many houses in Romaine have matrilineal inheritance or do all houses have that?
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>>4365464
Generally how well do other women from other duchy take to the romaine way of life? As in actually having a say in how things are going rather than just simply whispering in their husband's ear.
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>>4365472
It is the default in Romaine, but it usually only comes into play if there are no sons in the main family. Legal disputes can, and do, arise with a deal of frequency. As a general rule, Dukes and Duchess' side with the issue in whatever way will keep the lands in their Duchy's control. Only very influential families establish lands covering more than one Duchy.

>>4365473
It would certainly come as a shock to most, similar to how a Romani wife in another Duchy would not be expected to openly give her opinion on matters best left to her husband. Some adapt, some don't. In the latter case, other Romani-born women usually take a more controlling role in the household.

There is also the issue of acceptable flirtation. In Romaine, shows of open affection or even intimacies are perfectly acceptable and in fact encouraged to be used as a way of galvanizing men into action or swaying them to the right cause. The Church takes a dim view of this, and you do get the occasional Bishop trying to curb such wantoness in womenfolk with little lasting success. Given this, Romani women have a certain... reputation. The view of Romani wenches in other Duchies as bossy and salacious is a commonly held prejudice, especially among the peasantry.
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>>4364981
>>4364990
This is me damn IP is changing all the time.
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>>4365457
>>4365483
It change again.
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>>4365301
I've been thinking about the secret war stuff a bit and something occurred to me. If the King and Queen can't make a new heir to replace the Prince, and while easier said than done, would it be possible to skip the line by having a son of the Princess take the Throne? If the Prince doesn't have any heirs yet, all it would take is an inconvenient fall down a flight of stairs to raise up the children of the Princess. Not to say we should, but... if Emile somehow earns the Princess' favor, we have the distinct possibility of unravelling the Prince's plans with our hot, sweaty, chivalrous love and we get an Andrei on the Throne.
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>>4365566
I think we'd be messing with potentially both Factions if we did that and Im not even sure it would be possible unless we went for the most hardcore of ambitions and turned our house from a relatively middling Romanie duchy into a powerhouse worthy of a princess.

or we y'know we go for something unsanctioned.
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>>4365566
Honestly even if the princess is absolutely infatuated with us it is highly unlikely that the king would allow her to marry a second born son of a (frankly) non-influential house.

The only way I think we could convince the king to let us marry her would be to convince him that because of our size his grandchildren would look like pic related
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>>4365593
I mean I think there is a chance.
Just need to become a grade A+ Big Damn Hero.
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>>4365598
Theirs a chance but it's a fool's chance and we'd have to move some mountains to do it and compromise some Values I think.
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>>4365593
>>4365598

If we play our cards right, it's also highly possible we get some very potent religious backing due to our thing with the Angel. There is potential Sainthood with this kind mojo going on. I'm pretty sure Saint is a good enough title for a Princess to marry.
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>>4365566
The King and Queen already have other heirs. The Queen just gave birth to a son.
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>>4365628
Since when? I thought Vancewell just accused the queen of trying to conjure up a new heir.
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>>4365633
Since like the first andrei thread. Thread 2. It was literally the news gilbern was in the tavern to announce.
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>All these anons seriously thinking of marrying the Princess and/or Vancewell.
Yeah we have a chance, in the sense that we have a chance to win the lottery. Plus we're fucking off to Cathagi for the forseeable future anyway so it's not like we're going to be able to seriously court anyone.
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>>4365633
https://archived.moe/qst/thread/3018178/#q3018833

>The innkeep bustles about to see the royal knight seen to immediately and inquires with a friendly tone "We are honoured by yer presence, sire. An how fares our gracious and holy Queen?''

>"She remains, as ever, the Queen of Truth and Love, my good man." The Knight smiles congenially as the troubadour and singing maid in the common room take up the tune of 'Heavy Lies the Crown', a Queen-loyalist song. The maid catches the golden coin he flicks their way without missing a beat. "Almighty's Grace, she has blessed us with another true son of the King and so strengthened the Royal line and the future of our fine realm."

>The tavern cheers at the news of the Queen's third child, and a son to boot. Although Romaine's relationship with the King has oft been strained, the people have nothing but love for their kind and faithful Queen. A second cheer is brought about by the innkeeps declaration. "A round on the house! And Pit take the man who does not toast to their health!"
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>>4365639
>>4365645
Jesus christ its been too long since the first threads I clearly need to go review them.

>>4365643
The princess? sure one in a million shot, Vancewell? closer to a poker bet.
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>>4365645
Oh crap, you are right. By the Almighty that was so long ago the jab by Vancewell got me confused. With this information I can clearly say that my plan is terrible and that I want to avoid the eyes of the Royal Family as much as possible.
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>>4365650
>Vancewell? closer to a poker bet.
We sent their son and heir to the chopping block, no way in hell would they ever give their approval even if we somehow managed to woo Lady Frida.
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>>4365670
we actually have no way of judging that, Lady Vancewell has been as cold as Ice during our previous attempt to socialise with her, furthermore we have no idea what she actually thinks of our involvment with her brothers death, maybe he was as messed up to her as he was to those poor people he butchered and raped, maybe shes villanous or ambitious enough to just be glad he's out of the way we simply don't know, furthermore she's sole heir to the house now so if she really pushed for it she could probably have whoever she wanted.

Are the odds prehaps stacked against us? prehaps a bit more than I think, are they impossible to overcome? I don't think so, will this courtship even work? pic related.
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>>4365681
Actually I stand slightly corrected on the front the results list for our last persuade interaction with lady Vancewell implied at least some level of personal enmity towards Emille.

not that Emille knows that beyond the implication she may have tried to have him killed.
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>>4365049
>>4365061
>>4365245
>>4365248
>“A wife? He’s single? Oh. My. Gosh! We could be sisters!”
>“Is that him there? With the cane? Oh, the poor thing! …I’ll take him.”
This girl, this one right here, she is my favorite girl. I knew she was a gem and now the train is leaving the station.
I am tremendously disappointed in Emile, and proud of Ros and Big Bro. Houses Rabe and Andrei, BFFs
If we become brothers in law, does that fulfill the Brother for Life quest?


>>4365252
>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
Considering we'll be working Vancewell twiceover, we will need every bennie.
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>>4365789
We still need to go to his home and swear on the oath-stone. If theres a wedding, we'll probably do that.
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>>4365789
>spoiler

not unless we do a combined wedding+oath thing but I suppose it would add a nice narrative bond between Emille and Karl two Knights bonded by marriage, oath and battle.

I dig it gives me Three kingdoms vibes
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>>4365252
>> If you can find someone to act as a trusted messenger, you can arrange to have this evidence and a note explaining your discoveries so far to the Praetor Commandery tonight. [Send Message to Praetor’s office.

>“Is that him there? With the cane? Oh, the poor thing! …I’ll take him.”
Oh gezz did we just cuck ourslfs and get our bro a wife??
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>>4365861
Guse il link to my old vote/roll

>>4364987
This is me and my other vote;
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>>4365681
Well I think a lot of people are forgetting that Marquis Caspian Fallavon is also attempting to court her so we got some competition.
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>>4366013
. . . . We should avoid Fallavon in the future.
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>>4365252
>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You should capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
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>>4366024
F U C K
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>>4366013
>when big dick andrie breaks your arm then takes your girl
fuck the poor lad can't even wank anymore
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>>4366077
>Emile visits his family back in Romaine for dinner
>Father asks us about how our adventures in Fallavon went.
>PTSD Vietnam flashbacks of the Vigil, the Fae and their court, the battle with the Langlish, blue Jays, Son of sin, Basilisk, trekking through the woods and almost dying, finding Damien, breaking the Marquis' arm and collarbone.
>I see you found your brother Damien and I heard about what you did at the local tourney to the Marquis, that's my boy!
>Haha, yeah dad... Fallavon was great!
(Insert uncomfortable laughter)
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>>4365252
>>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
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>>4365252
>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
We told that clipper off!
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>>4366024
Does anybody else think that it’s funny that for Emile it would be safer to travel through the Fallavon forests rather than Fallavon roads?

I mean we kinda pissed off two of the most powerful houses. Even if they are not actively hostile towards us we certainly aren’t welcome in their lands.

Meanwhile in the forests basically none of the beasts there will fuck with us because we have the ursen amulet, the blue jays and Emile would prefer to pretend that we don’t exist and the fae warden who initially was a dick to Emile, now kinda respects him.
Not to mention that the other beastfolk communities absolutely adore us.
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>>4366572
I think it's funnier Anons want to be all noble and self sacrificing until it comes to pussy.

Gimme that +5DC to wooing the villainess, fuck capturing slavers.
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>>4365252
>> If you can find someone to act as a trusted messenger, you can arrange to have this evidence and a note explaining your discoveries so far to the Praetor Commandery tonight. [Send Message to Praetor’s office]
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>> If you can find someone to act as a trusted messenger, you can arrange to have this evidence and a note explaining your discoveries so far to the Praetor Commandery tonight. [Send Message to Praetor’s office]

i forget whether i've posted here or not yet, may not count
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>>4366614
We are at a ball, grabbing them by the pussy is what your ment to do.
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>>4366643
How your dad met your mother, hey?
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>>4365252
>>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]

Can't think of any trusted messengers we have at the minute.
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>>4366746
trusted messengers? I wouldnt be trusting the people il be trusting there coppercliper greed.
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>>4366614
Don't be cranky anon, we discussed the choices and felt, as a majority, there were too many risks in letting the evidence out of our sight tonight
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>>4365252
>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You chould capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]
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I wonder if it's possible an Heir of Ardenne survived it fall? Imagine finding them and helping them reclaim Ardenne.
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>>4366867
Sure, because Forgotten is the kind of person to give us something but actually have it be a trap option.
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>>4366893
Of course it's not a trap option but I imagine there would be rolls involved. Look at the current situation we're in, the setting, the people. If you think it would be a case of "Pick this option. Success!" with zero risk then you're a fool.

Both options come with risk, as is the norm for this quest, but we've chosen the option we believe comes with the least amount of risk and the most gain.
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>>4366077
Always
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>>4366897
Dude, it's not that I don't think the +5DC will be fun, but don't lie about the reason to vote for it.

Emile is, has always been, and will always be a simp Knight by votes.
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>>4367028
Not that his simping isn't entertaining.
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>>4367028
>but don't lie about the reason to vote for it.

Ah it's you again. Do you think you could go one thread without automatically assuming that people are lying about their reasons for voting just because it goes against what you want?
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Rolls in 30 minutes
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>>4367069
It is time to restore Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny's smile and faith in chivalry! March, Sir Emile the Bear! May the Almighty guide you!
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>>4367069
warming up dice
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>>4365449
This is me.
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Rolled 4 (1d100)

>>4367069
test
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>>4367069
wew.

Cant wait.
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Rolled 47 (1d100)

>>4367074

Give em a go, and see what's up.

>>4365352
Last post in case ID changed.
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>>4367073
>Want to roll for Daubney
>Want to roll for Vancewell
>only get 1 roll due to Id's

Fuck
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>>4367069
For daubeny mah knigga.

I want 3 success.
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>>4365252

> If you can find someone to act as a trusted messenger, you can arrange to have this evidence and a note explaining your discoveries so far to the Praetor Commandery tonight. [Send Message to Praetor’s office]
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Rolled 82 (1d100)

test
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>>4367069
cant wait
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
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>inb4 all 3 crit fail
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Rolled 76 (1d100)

Rolling for luck
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>Your one-sided confrontation with Sir Hewitt near the Dance Floor caught the eye of several giggling females. You should capitalise on that. [+5DC to Dance Floor arena interactions]

I should point out that carrying more than one Lady’s Favour is perfectly acceptable (to a point), though you will only ever benefit from one at a time. It is also caddish to ask for multiple favours in a single night, so if you mad lads are actually successful and want to bring in ALL the favours then it is best to stretch it out over the next couple of days.
Alright, here we go….

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The Dance Floor - Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny [Courtship]
> Higher Social Standing (male) / Reasonable Request
> 60DC
> Fashionable Attire +5DC, +1 Re-Roll
> Wealth Status +5DC
> Embarrassed Rival +5DC
> Copper-clipper served +1 Re-Roll (single use)
> Save Face +1 Save (single use)
> Animal Companion +1 Re-Roll
> Write-in/Dark Horse vote: The People have spoken! +1 Re-Roll
> Mademoiselle Daubeny: Melancholy +1 Adverse Re-Roll
> 75DC

Crit-fail = QM Note: Please don’t make me write this up.
Double Fail = Something about you reminds Josephine of her lost love. And it hurts.
0 = Your clumsiness as a dance partner is noted, though the Mademoiselle herself seems to be paying little heed. She is lost in her own darker world. -5DC to further Dance Floor interactions.
1 = Despite your best efforts, you feel that the Mademoiselle is only humouring you. You may ask her favour and, given your status and her mother’s keenness on having a new suitor, this request will likely be granted.
2 = You were faultless as a dance partner, and the Mademoiselle’s good humour seems sincere. Albeit fragile. You may ask her favour and, given your status, this request will likely be granted.
3 = You have brightened her night, no small feat. At this rate she may end up actually enjoying herself. It is possible to ask for her favour, and it is highly likely that such a request will be granted on her own volition. In a cruel twist, her newfound affection for you almost feels like a betrayal. +5DC to further Dance Floor interactions.
Double Success = Your charm and wit is enough to elicit a sincere smile from the Mademoiselle.
Crit-pass = Smile status: PROTECTED


3 rolls of 1d100, gents. You have THREE re-rolls (one is single use) and ONE save. Your opponent has ONE re-roll.

This is your first Ball, I take it? Mine too.
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Rolled 85 (1d100)

>>4367113
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Rolled 22 (1d100)

>>4367113
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Rolled 57 (1d100)

>>4367113
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Rolled 54 (1d100)

>>4367113
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>>4367114
Do I re-roll, fellow knights?
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I will assume that renewable re-rolls are used up before any single use ones.
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>>4367119
Yeah, only one is single use right?
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>>4367119
yes
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>>4367119
re-roll Knigga
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Rolled 67 (1d100)

>>4367113
>>4367114
Have at thee!
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Rolled 29 (1d100)

>>4367116
Using the Melancholy Adverse Re-Roll to counter this.
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>>4367119

Yeah, use the dark horse vote since it can only be used on her.
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>>4367119
Do it. Knigga.

PROTECT THAT SMILE.
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>>4367115
>>4367116
>>4367124
SMILE STATUS: PROTECTED
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>>4367115
>>4367116
>>4367124
>>4367125
>3 Success
>Double

ABSOLUTELY CHIVARLOUS
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>>4367116
Alright I got my roll good luck kniggas
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>>4367113
>Crit-fail = QM Note: Please don’t make me write this up
fuck how bad would of this been
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>>4367115
>>4367116
>>4367124
>>4367125

SMILE STATUS: PROTECTED
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>>4367126
Actually, that would mean you had four re-rolls. But by the look of things you guys have nailed it before that became necessary.
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>>4367115
>>4367116
>>4367124
>>4367125

Looks like 3 success, with one being the Lightning 22 Dubs. Excellent.
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>>4367115
>Double Success = Your charm and wit is enough to elicit a sincere smile from the Mademoiselle.

Awww
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>>4367116
>>4367117
>>4367124
>>4367125
Based Kniggas
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>>4367131
Not as bad as how forgotten will have to write her when we die to successive critfails
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>>4367113
Awww
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>>4367114
>>4367115
>>4367116
>>4367124
>>4367125

Well done, kniggas. The lightning double is a nice touch. But this was the easiest (and low stakes, I suppose) roll of the arena by far...

>3 Success: You have brightened her night, no small feat. At this rate she may end up actually enjoying herself. It is possible to ask for her favour, and it is highly likely that such a request will be granted on her own volition. In a cruel twist, her newfound affection for you almost feels like a betrayal. +5DC to further Dance Floor interactions.
> Double Success: Your charm and wit is enough to elicit a sincere smile from the Mademoiselle.

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Note that the write-ins regarding politeness and nothing too saucy mean that the DC is easier but only 3 success will result in winning a Royal Token (another kind of Favour).
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>>4367113
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The Dance Floor - Princess Antoinette Aubres [Courtship]
> Lower Social Standing / Reasonable Request (albeit presumptuous)
> 40DC
> Fashionable Attire +5DC, +1 Re-Roll
> Wealth Status +5DC
> Write-in: Polite interaction (amended outcomes) +10DC
> Embarrassed Rival +5DC
> Copper-clipper served +1 Re-Roll (single use)
> Fine Dancer +5DC
> Save Face +1 Save (single use)
> Animal Companion +1 Courtship/Intrigue Re-Roll
> Princess Antoinette: Wealth Status -10DC
> Princess Antoinette: Fashionable Attire -5DC, +1 Adverse Re-Roll
> Princess Antoinette: Impressive Finery (*Renowned Artist) -5DC, +2 Adverse Re-Rolls
> 50 DC

Crit-fail = OFF WITH HIS HEAD! (or near enough)
Double Fail = Cartel issued. You are challenged by either a skilled Roiguard or overenthusiastic suitor (depending on the degrees of success).
0 = Insulted Her Royal Highness. The embarrassment you caused here today will haunt your family at court for years, threatening to cripple your sister’s plan to reintroduce Damien to court in quite spectacular fashion.
1 = You manage to do the absolute minimum required of a Princess’ dance partner and avoid significant embarrassment, though snobbish whispers that you were too stiff and controlling in the dance burn your ears. That said, this still helps bring your Household into the limelight. To the Princess, you were just another face in the long line of eligible bachelors.
2 = You enjoy your five minutes of fame, and do well enough as a dance partner, but more importantly this helps immensely in your sister’s plan to ensure House Andrei gets back in the court spotlight. You managed to make an impression on the Princess, though more as a local celebrity than a genuine love interest.
3 = You are the very model of a modern Cantôn gentleman. The Princess is moved to remark on your charming personality and family’s good breeding. She may even be open to granting you a Royal Token (slightly different to a Lady’s Favour), if you are bold enough to ask.
Double Pass = The sheer audaciousness of a lower member of the nobility asking for a dance with the Princess is considered a feat among the attendants, regardless of your actual performance.
Crit-success = BUT DADDY I LOVE HIM!


NEW ROLLERS PLEASE. 3 rolls of 1d100, you crazy kniggas. You have THREE re-rolls (one single use) and ONE save. Your opponent has THREE adverse re-rolls.

Your Royal Highness, may I have the honour of this dance? (Reginae have mercy, please don’t let me cock this up…)
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Rolled 42 (1d100)

>>4367151
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>>4367144
>Be Maidmoiselle Daubeny.
>Be betrothed to a young sir, Gabriel Rousseau.
>Find out your betrothed was horribly killed at the hands of filthy beastmen, and died alone on the kingsroad from young chivalrous knigga from Romaine.
>Romaini follows proper decorum, and leaves you to grieve.
>Hear Romaini knigga is following the pilgrimage, and draping himself in glory.
>Have the first happy night since mourning with the Romaini in a chance encounter at the Duke's ball, on the opposite side of the country from where he was going.
>Bestow favour, and Mother pushes for marriage with the Romaini when he returns from Cathago when hes finished with the Dragonguard.
>The brave Romaini dies in a foreign land at the hand of assassins in the Dragon's Court.

My god, it's full of tragedy.
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Awww yissss
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Rolled 50 (1d100)

>>4367151
Reginae wept

3 adverse rerolls? Fuuuuu
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Rolled 93 (1d100)

>>4367151
luck
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Rolled 12 (1d100)

>>4367151
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Rolled 19 (1d100)

>>4367151
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Rolled 20 (1d100)

>>4367152
Using the first Adverse Re-Roll to counter this result
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Rolled 89 (1d100)

>>4367157
Using the second Adverse Re-Roll to counter this result
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>>4367151
>>4367158
rerolling
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Rolled 31 (1d100)

Using the third and final Adverse Re-Roll to attempt another counter on this result >>4367161
>>4367152
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>>4367152
>>4367157
>>4367158
Let's try to save the single use re-roll for Lady Frida Vancewell two interactions, anon.

1 success isn't a bad result here.
>1 = You manage to do the absolute minimum required of a Princess’ dance partner and avoid significant embarrassment, though snobbish whispers that you were too stiff and controlling in the dance burn your ears. That said, this still helps bring your Household into the limelight. To the Princess, you were just another face in the long line of eligible bachelors.
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Rolled 32 (1d100)

>>4367165
>>4367151
>>4367158
fuck
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>>4367167
>Lady Frida Vancewell two interactions, anon.

Lady Frida Vancewell's two interactions, anons*
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Cain on the Cross, those first success were right on the borderline. A little +5DC here and there makes all the difference.
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>>4367161
>>4367166

GET FUCKED DANCED WITH LIKE A BOSS PRINCESS.
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>>4367168
>>4367152
>Fucks up Sir Gilbern's roll with 75DC
>Gets 2 successes with 50DC and 3 adverse re-rolls
Looks like our Reginate friend is going to be very very confused
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2 success. Nice job kniggas. Fuck. This was bad for my heart.
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WE STILL HAVE 1 RENEWABLE REROLL FROM ANIMAL COMPANION KNIGGAS USE IT
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>>4367168
>>4367166
>>4367163
This went a lot better than could be expected sis better give us a barb free compliment for this
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>>4367157
we still have one free reroll from dame stoutsworth
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>>4367157
Come on anon re roll
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>>4367178
We still have one more re-roll that recharges. Do you want to use it anon?
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You are currently sitting at 2 Success.

This anon >>4367157 (and Adverse counter >>4367163 ) has TWO re-rolls to restore the initial success. The first re-roll is renewable, the second is single use. Both are at the discretion of this anon.
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>>4367151
>We actually got to dance with the Princess

MADLADS
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>>4367176

>Ok, he's dancing with Mme Daubeny, must have connections to House Rousseau. Fine dancer, but nothing too out of the ordinary.
>Wait, he's stepping to the Princess?
>What the fuck, he's DANCING WITH HER?
>HE DIDN'T FUCK IT UP?
>WHY IN THE ALMIGHTY'S CREATION IS HE HEADING OVER TO LADY VANCEWELL!?
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Rolled 53 (1d100)

>>4367151
>>4367157
Rerolling then since its renewable.
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>>4367194
So close... But good enough
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>>4367194
Close but no-dice
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>>4367194
Dammit. So close. Sorry kniggas. I tried and the non-renewable is a resource to hoard for the next two.
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>>4367201
yah did good anon two success is more than enough
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now comes the fun part
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>2 = You enjoy your five minutes of fame, and do well enough as a dance partner, but more importantly this helps immensely in your sister’s plan to ensure House Andrei gets back in the court spotlight. You managed to make an impression on the Princess, though more as a local celebrity than a genuine love interest.

Definitely a good result. Not bad at all. No Royal Token though which is an acceptable loss.
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Can someone remind me what rank our father holds? Count? Baron?
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>>4367201
Its good. The initial success helped.

>>4367205
Aye, this could have gone very poorly. Much like how the potential meeting with the prince will go.

If there was a 100 here, I'd be inclined to use the save.
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>>4367206
count i believe
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>>4367201
No worries mate. 2 success is plenty good, and will prove further to the family that we're putting in tonnes of good work towards restoring the family name, and that our Errantry wasn't a mistake.
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> 2 Success: You enjoy your five minutes of fame, and do well enough as a dance partner, but more importantly this helps immensely in your sister’s plan to ensure House Andrei gets back in the court spotlight. You managed to make an impression on the Princess, though more as a local celebrity than a genuine love interest

You crazy kniggas, I was sweating bullets here looking at that initial DC even with the polite write-ins.

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I will assume that the write-ins that mention Craig of Lowgrove, who you suspect she hired, will come into play in the counter-intrigue section. Unless you critfail, in which case there will be more pressing issues.
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>>4367206
Lord
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>>4367206
Lord
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>>4367213
How is sir Gilbern's face now.
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>>4367209
>>4367214
>>4367218
Thanks
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damn shame we didn't get a double fail it would been nice to go bare chested showing off our manly scarrs and beat the shit out of a roi guard or suiter in the court yard
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>>4367213
Our antics, while successful, drive our sister to drink.

Literally high risk, high reward tomfoolery.
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The Dance Floor - Lady Frida Vancewell [Courtship]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAx6mYeC6pY – I couldn’t resist
> Equal Social Standing (male) / Unreasonable Request (obviously)
> 40DC
> Fashionable Attire +5DC, +1 Re-Roll
> Wealth Status +5DC
> Animal Companion +1 Courtship OR Intrigue Re-Roll As they are happening so close together
> Write-in: (Kindness & asking after the Marquis) +10DC
> Embarrassed Rival +5DC
> Copper-clipper served +1 Re-Roll (single use)
> Fine Dance Partner +5DC
> Save Face +1 Save (single use)
> Lady Vancewell: Fashionable Attire -5DC, +1 Adverse Re-Roll
> Lady Vancewell: Had my brother executed +0 Adverse Re-Rolls
> 65 DC

Crit-fail = Murder on the Dance Floor. Lady Vancewell’s intrigue attempt will take a far more sinister form.
Double Fail = Lady Vancewell believes this is all part of some ploy. Sir Gilbern believes that the two of you are in cahoots. Somehow…
0 = All is Fair in Love and War. Lady Vancewell is ever the opportunist, and leaps upon the opening presented to her by a rival. Her intentions, and the status of the Marquis Fallavon courtship, remain a complete mystery to you. -20DC to Lady Vancewell counter-intrigue.
1 = Another awkward standoff. As a dance partner, you can’t be faulted. But the conversation is stilted and overly polite. Your knowledge of her intentions, and the Marquis Fallavon courtship, are clouded. No modifier to Lady Vancewell counter-intrigue.
2 = Honeyed Words. Lady Vancewell’s attempt at subterfuge is somewhat disrupted by her flushed face and distracted thoughts. You have some idea of her overall intentions and the status of the Marquis Fallavon courtship, but not on her personal opinion of you. +20DC to Lady Vancewell counter-intrigue. You may ask for her favour, if you dare.
3 = Love is a Battlefield. And you’re winning. In addition to your success at wooing a hated rival, Lady Vancewell is so flustered that she forgets to implement her ploy at all. You have a complete understanding of Lady Vancewell’s intentions, the Marquis courtship status and even what her personal view of you was and is. Lady Vancewell counter-intrigue is negated. It is possible to ask for her favour, and such a request will likely (perhaps due to social pressure) be granted.
Double Success = Lady Vancewell believes that your romantic intentions are sincere. Sir Gilbern believes that the two of you in cahoots. Somehow…
Crit-pass = Drugs. Rock n’ Roll. Badass Vancewell hoes. Late night booty calls…


NEW ROLLERS PLEASE. 3 rolls of 1d100, you audacious kniggas. You have THREE re-rolls (one is single use) and ONE save. Your opponent has ONE adverse re-roll.

Lady Frida Vancewell, fancy meeting you here…
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Rolled 75 (1d100)

>>4367225
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Rolled 43 (1d100)

>>4367225
fucking here we go
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Rolled 36 (1d100)

>>4367225
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>>4367225
Oh you best believe it’s Vancewell time
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Rolled 21 (1d100)

>>4367225
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Rolled 50 (1d100)

>>4367225
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For Americans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUy6U64tadA
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Rolled 46 (1d100)

>>4367225
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Rolled 78 (1d100)

>>4367225
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Rolled 38 (1d100)

>>4367226
re-rolling
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>>4367225
> Lady Vancewell: Had my brother executed +0 Adverse Re-Rolls
>0 Adverse Re-Rolls
>0
Holy shit...
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>>4367227
>>4367229
>>4367238
oh shit.

It might be worth it to spend all the rerolls here if she succeeds the adverse.
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Rolled 98 (1d100)

>>4367227
Using Lady Vancewell's Adverse Re-Roll to counter this result
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>>4367227
>>4367242

Imma need you to re-roll what Forgotten did you you champ
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>>4367241
Yeah 3 success means she won't do the Counter-Intrigue ploy.

>>4367242
This almost gave me a heart attack. I thought it was a critfail.
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>>4367242
Oh shiiiiiiii
Better re-roll that kniggas
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>>4367242

Whoever rolled, you must reroll I'm begging you.
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>>4367240
I called it, she really didn't care too much I think

>>4367242
holy balls can we use the save for double pass?
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>>4367245
Forgotten: FaE tOuChEd Is A sHiT bOoN

>>4367249
Fucking what. Reroll first mate.
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>>4367249
I think it'd be a regular pass. We still have 2 re-rolls left, hopefully we don't need the single use one. The save is better used for the Bishop etc. Re-roll dude
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>>4367249
Use a re-roll, we'll need the save i case we crit-fail in the last arena.
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Rolled 1 (1d100)

>>4367227
re-roll
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>>4367254
LETS FUCKING GOOOO
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>>4367254
he he he
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>>4367254
HAHHAHAHHHAH
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>>4367254
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>4367254
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>4367254
HOLY SHIT!
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>>4367254
YO. yooooooooooooo
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>>4367227
Reroll we have two rerolls
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>>4367254
Vancewell is our waifu now
So declareth the DICE GODS
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>>4367254
Oh my fucking god knigga
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>>4367254
Shiiiet
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Guys... OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO ASK FOR HER FAVOUR NOW RIGHT!?
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>>4367254

Gif is relevant.
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>>4367254
yeah, that'll do it. good roll, knigga
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>>4367254
Oh come the fuck on...

So, meme magic is real and confirmed.
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>>4367254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2zpbcW-h-c&feature=emb_rel_end
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>>4367254
"my dear do you really think so poorly of me to send a low born cutthroat to end my life I'm surely worth 10 "
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>>4367268
We're asking it tonight definitely.

I really REALLY need a POV from Sir Gilbern after tonight.
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>>4367268
FUck yeah Knigga

>We DoN'T hAvE a ChAnCe wItH VaNceWeLL
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>>4367279
>I really REALLY need a POV from Sir Gilbern after tonight.


Hahaha fucking oath
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>>4367254
Holy shit
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Is today the day we get the Vancewell route lock?
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>>4367275
I was hoping for it
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>lose out on lady rabe
>hit a homerun on vancewell
I'll always be salty, but holy shit what a trade up.
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>>4367254
IT'S FUCKING WHITE BITCH ALL OVER AGAIN EXCEPT WE'LL PUT AN ANGEL BABY INTO THIS BITCH.

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>4367274

>Killed her brother, maimed her suitor, fought off assassins, and now getting into her pants.

Sir Gilbern and Sir Rabe will definitely be getting shittered to try and understand just what the fuck is happening with Emile.
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Looks the Bear used some god-tier casanova skills to make the sexy hot ass Vancewell completely fall in love with them.
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Man fucking Marquis Caspian Fallavon is going to fucking hate us. Hit squad after hit squad is going to come after us. I can't fucking wait. This is incredible
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AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Even the gods are on the Vancewell ship
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>>4367268
nah, she'll be asking for ours'
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Fun memes aside, we need to consider whether we actually want to have the future duke of Fallavon permanently salty at our ass and family.
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>>4367254
WE'RE GOING TO MARRY THE SEXY EVIL VIXEN HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>4367254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch1aVmjvYTI
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>she goes from haughty bitch to stuttering maiden in 5 mins
FUCK CAN"T WAIT FORGOTTEN YOU TAKE ALL THE TIME YOU NEED I WANT THIS TO BE PERFECT
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>>4367298
Its a shit duchy anyways.
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>>4367298
Yes bring on his hate against our love
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What's Karlus going to think, given they hate house Vancewell's guts?
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Haha poor Forgotten though I can imagine his brain exploding seeing that crit. Like shit, the guy is organizing a big move, a change to his lifestyle, drinking with family and friends and then BOOM CRIT SUCCESS MOTHERFUCKER, WE JUST WON STV
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Okay.

Okay.

Obviously the counter-intrigue has been torpedoed before it ever even started, so that's all the rolls for tonight.

Reginae Wept. I need some time to think.
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>>4367298
he's a bitch nigger he can get fucked
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NO BRAKES ON THE VANCEWELL TRAIN CHOO FUCKING CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>4367308
I want to double success

COMPLETE THE TRIFECTA OF CHAOS!
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>>4367298
And I reiterate, fuck Fallavon.
Montburn is House Andrei's best friend now.
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>>4367308
Since you have one less interaction to write, as some anons have mentioned something from Sir Gilbern's POV would be fantastic (and hilarious)
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>when lady vance well dips into her funds to buy us plate WITH PLUMS
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>>4367307
The only way I would have laughed harder is if we ended up getting a crit pass with the Princess, and a critfail with the Prince. Ripping all of Canton into a horrible civil war from one bumblefuck hick knight from the ass-end of the country.
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>>4365372
This can now be a reality
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>>4367298
Fuck him. This is a match made in the stars.
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The last times we rolled crits the angel got involved. Does this mean we have a holy "wing"man on our side? Will Vancewell hear a voice from up high telling her to get with a knigga?
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>we just got the most ruthless woman on our side just before we are about to ruthless tear the shit out of the copper clipping pascae nobility
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>>4365372
Thank you anons for memeing Vancewell so much we made it reality.
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>>4367326
>*psst* "Kid! Tell her you would love tear her lingerie apart and fill her with baby butter"
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I can't believe this
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>>4367308
So does that mean Craig isn't going to get brought up at all? Or is Lady Vancewell going to get the idea that we find her schemes charming and enjoyable?
>>4367316
That or Roselyn. Either would be choice.

>>4367318
Delicious plums...
>>4367327
Imagine. Ros, Brunhilde and Frida, working together for the benefits of their collective families. How horrifying.
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>>4367333
All we need now is to marry Ros off to Sir Gilbern and we have a bunch of terrifying in-laws
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>>4367333
>Rabe/Vancewell hatred recouncilled by meddling Romanie Bears
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>>4367333
Delicious plums...
GAH that changes alot though i could see her doing that
>i got your Armour and plums you wanted
>i said plumes woman
>oh no! well you will just have the "punish" me then
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Mama Andrei has a seizure when she finds out her politically inept son just seduced Frida Vancewell.
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Thread theme today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgGTcqjMRQ
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>>4367338
We also have Ana (Second eldest sister) courting the Norveski's at home too. No wonder with all the shit going on that Sir Gilbern is thinking we're involved in the faction shit, if not trying to gouge out a spot for the family.

>Mother must be thrilled that we're making so much progress, and utterly chapped that Father was the one who let us go instead of herself.
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>>4367292
>them.
Him*

The Emile x Frida memes anons made in the last thread and this one might become a reality... sweet Salve Regina.

>>4367308
No prob Forgotten. Take your time.
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Poor daubney.

She just got back into the running.

i say we ask for her favour anyways tomorrow or something.
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also i would like to point out she used her reroll first so she shit tests us and we just chad our way into her heart
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Imagine Sir Robert Gilbern's expression right now.

>>4367346
Out sister Anastazja is already going to get engaged to Sir Simon Norveski, the second son of Lord Norveski.
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Is she going to get so lovestruck that she follows us to the Dragon's Court?

Furthermore, I believe Fallavon can get fucked
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>>4367354
I'm worried it might hamper the relationship with Brother Rousseau, but she's a good girl all the same.
For me it depends on who's the better fit. I'm leaning more towards Vancewell thematically, but a good narrative could swing that easily.
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>>4367354
No reason we can't be stuck between two women, Vancewell just got the first move on us, or we did on her? shits crazy yo
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>>4367363
Based Catoposter. Ceterum censeo Fallavonem delendam esse
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>>4367363
depending on the very near and immediate future that might be off the tables.
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So Forgotten is there going to be a pregnancy roll with Vancewell?
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>>4367363
Unlikely, since shes the heir apparent. Also she cant be too openly heads over heels with us. Not with how her father is still the Lord Vancewell and probably hates our guts from killing his son. Done poorly, Lady Vancewell might get her heir status pulled.

Also, fuck me, we'll be Sir Emile Andrei Vancewell.
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>>4367354
>i say we ask for her favour anyways tomorrow or something.

For sure. We must restore her broken heart and faith in chivalry!
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>we are already booked with cathagi cougar tonight
>implying that matters
>vancewell thresome?
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We actually meme magicked Vancewell into our waifu. Thought I was dreaming. By the Almighty.......
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>>4367254
Memes do come true. Still on the Daubeny Train though.
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>>4367298
Knigga I would charge through the Pit and back just to secure her hand. Fuck Fallavon forever.
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>>4367254
Holy shit, I've been against every waifu plot so far in the quest because I think it's the more boring aspect of the quest narratively speaking but I'm 100% in for an ambiguous relationship with this girl. Enemies one day, then lovers the next, then enemies again the next one.
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>>4367298
Oh man imagine the rumors.
>I hear the Marquis got crippled by some Romaine knight that later stole Lady Vancewell from him.
>Haven't you hear? The Romaine knight is her agent and lover. He frame her brother for some crime and then got him execute so she could inherit everything. And then she send him to crippled the Marquis to scare him off for attending to court her.
>It's true, my cousin in Pascae saw them dancing together at the Duke's ball.
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>>4367448
All you need now is the abrupt death of the Vancewell patriarch in his sleep.
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>>4367254
Could you imagine if that triggered jealousy in princess. We dance with her and it just mediocre. Then we dance with Vancewell and its full of passion and best performance we can give.
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>>4367448
>Emille ''the Incidental villian'' Andrei vancewell
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> Daubney's smile protected
> didn't fuck up with Princess
> meme'd Vancewell for real

I couldn't be here for rolls, but Almighty bless you kniggas.
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>>4367460
>Emile "Cripple your old suitor, then stick it in your cooter" Andrei-Vancewell
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>>4367460
>>4367472
Emile "Come at the Marquis, then steal his Miss" Andrei-Vancewell
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Emile "I try to feed my son meat, but my partner makes broccoli look so sweet" Andrei-Vancewell
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>>4367477
>Emile "Execute your sibling, your vag will be dribbling" Andrei-Vancewell
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>>4367482
Emile "Puts your family in tombs so you can buy him plumes" Andrei-Vancewell
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>>4367254
bro what the FUCK
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>>4367453
kino
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>>4367506
Poor Sir Gilbern

>Awww how sweet he's dancing with that sad Daubney girl
>Wait whys he approaching the princess? are you ma- holy shit he actually got her to dance
>Litreally hot & heavy dance with vancewell
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Oh man, the upcoming rolls in the Ballroom arena are even scarier than the ones in the Dancefloor arena. We're going to be interacting with some of the most powerful individuals in Canton (the Crown Prince, the Duke of Pasace, the Bishop of Pasace, and Lord Gilbern). They will all have a higher social standing than Emile. It's a good thing we kept the save and single use re-roll since complete failures would be really bad there.

>>4367292
>Looks the Bear

Looks like the Bear*
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>>4367512
Bro Emile and Vancewell are dancing like a horny high school at prom, all grinding on one another and shit
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>>4367516
>hot & heavy dance with Vancewell
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>>4367515
I hope that we'll have some low DC for once because the last rolls were made at pretty high DC with multiple re-rolls, so we were really safe and it was kinda predictable that we'd got a lot of successes.
I think the quest is much funnier and tense when there is a high risk of failure.
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>>4367515
Single-use roll only applies for the Dance Floor
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>>4367519
At the least, we should be getting a +15DC to the Bishop's roll from the Storm-kissed stuff, since he's clergy. Might raise it enough we won't be feeding all our re-rolls into it, and might get some other bonuses for standing full vigils at each stage of the pilgrimage so far.
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>>4367515
>>4367519
We get a bonus (+10?) for the Bishop, so that should help to mitigate some of the DC right out of the gate. I have to wonder if the Duke of Pascae and Lord GIlbern will get some leeway because of the raid or the general snooping.

The big one to worry about is the Prince, but even then Emile has some leverage in that he knows the Prince is involved in what happened in the Fallavon Woods (the only good part of Fallavon). If that translates into a reroll or + to DC, I guess we'll find out.
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>>4367526
>> Lady Vancewell: Had my brother executed +0 Adverse Re-Rolls
Just noticed this. No wonder she swoons before us. Now we just need to kill her father.
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>>4367543
>Lady Vancewell is the counterbalance to the angel just telling us to fulfill our darker urges

I want this in the relationship
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>>4367543
By accident, surely.
Wooing Lady Vancewell also might give us an in with the Prince, if they actually are a favored house by his faction. I'm torn if they should continue to be awkward around one another or if they should throw themselves into things wholeheartedly.

I also kind of want to save Ser Robert's reaction until the end at this rate. He'll go bald for certain if Emile does half as well in the ballroom.

>>4367555
This would also be interesting. Thorny bois, rise up.
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>>4367519
The DC for the Dancefloor interactions wasn't pretty easy, especially not the one for the Princess. Tension and fun are good, but not when the cost is making DC and rolls harder than they ought just for the sake of high risk.

>>4367521
Yeah, that's true. Sorry I forgot.
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>>4367569
I mean I'm making a lot of assumptions we've barely said two words to her before now so I could be completely wrong about her mindset but if I'm not oh boy we're in for an even better ride than I thought.

I know more than one favor is Cadish to have but I sort of want Emille to take Daubney's out of a desire to protect the smile and then take Vancewells for obvious reasons.
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>>4367578
Forgotten did say its ok to take more than one here. Just that we need to space them out.

Though im wondering. If lady vancewell is actually going to do a night call, that means we could get her favour later tonight and get daubney’s now. Heh.

I expect vancewells to be frilly and unmentionable
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>>4367586
Her favor is her panties
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>>4367595
>Her favor is her panties

>>4367586
I expect vancewells to be frilly and unmentionable

I uh... I think that's what he was implying there anon
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>>4367597
ah whoops mb
I'm shitposting while at work and I'm doing terrible at both
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>>4367597
I think we should be clear that her favor is her underwear.
Sort of like the pair she is wearing now.
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>>4367577
>than they ought just for the sake of high risk

Than they ought to be just for the sake of high risk*
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>>4367586
From >>4367113
>I should point out that carrying more than one Lady’s Favour is perfectly acceptable (to a point), though you will only ever benefit from one at a time. It is also caddish to ask for multiple favours in a single night, so if you mad lads are actually successful and want to bring in ALL the favours then it is best to stretch it out over the next couple of days.

But if we're going to get technical its probably fine to do it in a more intimate setting away from prying eyes.

mostly though I don't think Emille was expecting what can only be described as a wirlwind success with Vancewell so probably asked for Daubney's favor to protect what fragile optimism we might have stirred in her.

It lace & silk
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Still.

Imagine the future shitstorm and samefaggotry when we have to give up one of the two favours to save someone.
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>>4367608
Bruh I don't want to, on one hand protec smile on the other GIB Vancwell hotsauce on third hand I don't want a repeat of Broulert.
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>>4367608
>giving up either
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>>4367614
>giving up re-rolls to keep things precious to us

Emille really is the Anti-prince
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>>4367608
>>4367611
>>4367614
Basically. The answer is to collect ALL THE FAVOURS.
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https://archived.moe/qst/thread/3648621/#q3670917

>Excerpt detailing the 7 stages of virtuous courtship from Love is a Battlefield: Wear Armour by Sister Florence.

>(1) Asking for a Favour. Words of affection and flirtation are exchanged as you and the lady are introduced and make your first impressions on one another.

>(2) Carrying the Favour. Carry the Lady’s favour through some minor ordeal, such as a tournament or short journey. At the end of this you may entreat upon the Lady for a more advanced favour, something personal and close to the heart (literally). Alternatively, should danger or war rear its ugly head, or your mutual affection be obvious, you may directly ask for an advanced favour.

>(3) Return Favour. Having completed a more arduous task or impressive feat you return the favour to the lady in question, letting her know that only the knowledge of her fondness for you helped you achieve victory.

>(4) Permission to Write. Successfully gaining the permission to write to the woman of your affection from her Father and receive letters in turn. In Romaine permission would come from the Mother instead. By this stage your interests are monogamous, if you are writing letters to multiple women you would be seen as something of a cad. It is not entirely rougish for you to retain favours from other prospects until talk of marriage begins.

>(5) Parent’s Blessing, (both yours and theirs). This stage has little romance to it and is more about proving that you have a plan to provide for a family to a degree worthy of the fiancee’s breeding and status.

>(6) Chaperone. You hold private discussions of love, marriage and your future together with the woman in question, with only a single observer holding their distance to ensure nothing untoward occurs (in Romaine this is usually a Steel Sister or even unchaperoned). Often this stage is a mere formality if the parents are pushing for the marriage rather than just permitting the courtship.

>(7) Marriage. The joyous day, you and your lady love are bound in holy matrimony as husband and wife. The lady takes your family name and her parents provide a dowry befitting her status to care for her in the event of your untimely death.

Here are the required steps to successfully court and marry a lady.
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>>4367626
1-3 are really easy for us to achieve considering tonight & pilgrimage especially if its not complicated by DG stuff, 4 & 5 run into a parental approval issue we may face.
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Vancewell is a choice piece of ass, though I hope we don't become committed to her. As some anons said, this is a party to fuck. I do hope this at least smooths things out with here so she can smooth things out with her family.
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>>4367638
the courting process is long enough to see if this thing relationship will even work for us.
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>>4367638
This
Plus, we all know Daubeny is best girl
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>>4367649
If I had to pick between the two, it would be Daubeny, though there is still time for us to meet new people and other potential wives.
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>>4367649
That's a funny way of saying Ros_
>>4367633
We hit the first four in less than a week last time. Hopefully we can take it easier on this round
Although Vancewell may be game to give the advanced favor immediately after that 1.
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off the Rabetrain folks, all aboard the Vancewell Express.
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>>4367668
Is incest heresy in Canton?
>>4367673
More like Vancewell Exxxpress
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>>4367626
>you don't need her parent's blessing if they died in tragic accidents
*taps head
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>>4367649
>>4367657
I'll be honest I was a daubney guy up until tonight it terms of actual serious investment consideration but with the way things have played out bring on the Vancewell vanguard.

>>4367668
yeah progress with Sinclair was pretty fast if I remember correctly
>Although Vancewell may be game to give the advanced favor immediately after that 1.
>Advanced panties of favor +2 rerolls to intrigue
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>>4367673
Choo Choo motherfuckers
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>>4367677
Just because she's best girl doesn't mean she's winning the Emileb Owl. I'd love to have her stay in Romaine and beef up the countryside, but I think it'd be better to get her in wed into a ranking Aubrey or Pascae family.
>>4367673
I will forever mourn that Emile missed his chance to make Lady Rabe make incredibly unladylike sounds in front of the Pascae Court.
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>>4367686
kek
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>>4367649
>Daubeny is best girl

I Wholeheartedly agree. Josephine is the kindest, sweetest, and purest best waifu! We must soothe her broken heart and restore faith in chivalry and knighthood!

>>4367657
>there is still time for us to meet new people and other potential wives.

Yes, but we need to remember that the world doesn't revolve around Emile. He's going to spend 3 years serving as a Dragonguard in Cathago. Both Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny and Lady Frida Vancewell (and most single ladies like Lady Brunhilde Rabe, Lady Ava Sinclair, Lady Elisabeth Fallavon, etc) would've already gotten married by then, as their parents aren't gonna wait for us.
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>>4367694
Dragonguard aint set in stone bruh
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>>4367694
Whoa whoa whoa, that dragon guard thing is not 100% final my man.
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>>4367696
>>4367697
True, it's not locked.

>>4367681
I don't see Emile murdering someone to get into their daughter's skirt. It would simply not be in his character. He has shown consistently that he cares about justice, chivalry, and honour. It would go against everything he believes in and everything he has done.
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>>4367713
Frida "Poison your father's dentures, while your beau has adventures' Vancewell(-Andrei)
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>>4367716
>Frida "Accidents can happen, these cheeks be a-clappin'" Vancewell(-Andrei)
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>>4367713
It'd be interesting to see if that remained the case if Vancwell was as cutthroat as we think she may be, people tend to devlop characteristics in osmosis with others.
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>>4367713
>I don't see

I can't see*

>>4367716
>>4367723
Frida herself on her own? Maybe, but we can't really say. We don't know what her relationship with her father is like. Regardless, I can't see Emile having any involvement in it or any knowledge of it. He'd find it highly disagreeable should he come to know of it. Murder (kinslaying murder at that) is an egregiously reprehensible crime and deed.
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>>4367738
not at this point in the story certainly, in fact it would probably challenge it immenselly but it remains to be seen what Emille might grow into either by osmosis with companions, need & means or whatever the story throws at us, as a friend of mine once said ''whats the fun in being good if it's not challenged?''
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The Dance Floor - Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny [Courtship]

>3 Success: You have brightened her night, no small feat. At this rate she may end up actually enjoying herself. It is possible to ask for her favour, and it is highly likely that such a request will be granted on her own volition. In a cruel twist, her newfound affection for you almost feels like a betrayal. +5DC to further Dance Floor interactions.
> Double Success: Your charm and wit is enough to elicit a sincere smile from the Mademoiselle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-elgADLjmU – Genuine smile

“Sir Andrei, I had not expected to see you here.” Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny offers a polite curtsey as you approach her on the dancefloor.

“Not an unpleasant surprise, I hope?” You bow before taking your place in the lead position, this beat is a fairly easy one to keep pace to.

“Of course not.” Mademoiselle Daubeny offers you a sad smile. “How is Sir Marcel Rousseau?”

“He goes well, he has retaken holy orders as Brother Rousseau.” It’s hard to forget that the silent Knights Comitas blamed himself for the fate of his former squire. “He’s accompanied me on every step of my pilgrimage so far, and I’ve been glad to have him at my back.”

“I’m glad to hear it. He took Gabriel’s… he took the news very hard.” Mademoiselle Daubeny casts her eyes to the floor, stepping to the tune without any particular enthusiasm. As if weights were dragging at the hems of her dress. Though you suspect the heaviness lies closer to the heart.

It does not take a genius to figure that Mademoiselle Daubeny would rather be anywhere but here on the dancefloor, an eligible debutante at the centre of attention to be considered and approached by any potential suitors. At the same time, you suspect that if mother had not forced her to attend both Lord Duncan’s tourney and this ball then Josephine Daubeny might very well still be sitting in the grove where she and the late Sir Gabriel Rousseau used to play as children.

It hurts you to see such an innocent creature so obviously in pain. You cannot let this stand.

“A wyvern.”

“I beg your pardon?” The mademoiselle looks up suddenly, confusion seeping in to mix with the sadness in her sapphire eyes.

“You heard me, My Lady.” You nod, perfectly serious. “A wyvern.”

“I’m afraid I don’t follow, sir…”

“If that’s what it would take, I would take on a wyvern by my very own self. The head of a wyvern, in return for just one true and honest smile from you, My Lady.” You beam down at the bewildered Aubres woman, her other dark thoughts momentarily banished by this odd barter system. “A fair trade, don’t you think?”

“I appreciate the offer…” The merest hint of a smile twitches at the corner of Mademoiselle Daubeny’s mouth.

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“Look at that, I almost got one for free. My Lady is the very Queen of generosity. You have the grace of a dryad, and the heart of a giant.” You wink as the two of you continue to whirl to the tune, a skip in the mademoiselle’s step is an encouraging sign. “But are you absolutely certain you don’t need a wyvern or some other sort pesky wildlife dealt with? Direwolf, Mintour, anything at all? Except a Basilisk, I draw the line at Basilisks.”

“Quite certain.” The Mademoiselle covers her mouth with a gloved hand, perhaps to prevent another smile creeping out. “The offer is really most kind, but entirely unnecessary. We don’t get a lot of those problems in Aubres.”

“So wildlife is out.” You twirl your dance partner, quite literally sweeping her off her feet for a brief moment. “How about a spot of gardening? I can be an absolute terror to a wayward weed or the odd fallen log when roused to action.”

And there it is. That genuine smile you were looking for. It builds at the corner of Josephine’s angelic face, creeping in from the sides like a cat slinking in from the rain to curl up by the fire, before bursting wide across her lips and showing just the barest hint of her teeth behind those rosy lips.

It is utterly impossible not to smile back.

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The Dance Floor - Princess Antoinette Aubres [Courtship]
> 2 Success: You enjoy your five minutes of fame, and do well enough as a dance partner, but more importantly this helps immensely in your sister’s plan to ensure House Andrei gets back in the court spotlight. You managed to make an impression on the Princess, though more as a local celebrity than a genuine love interest

“Your Royal Highness, may I have the honour of this dance?”

Though outwardly confident and composed, you can feel the trickle of sweat down your back when the Princess accepts your request. As the two of you make your way to the centre of the dancefloor, her left hand politely rested upon your raised right, you are utterly certain that you have never had more eyes on you in your entire life than you do now. And those eyes belong some of the most important peers of the land.

“What shall we dance to?” The Princess, a ravishingly tall creature that shares her brothers dark hair and piercing green eyes.

Your mind goes blank for a dangerous moment before you remember your proper manners. “Whatever Her Royal Highness so desires.”

Of to the side, your sister breathes a sigh of relief that you remembered that bit of etiquette. Seemingly innocuous on the surface, but only hardship would have followed if you had answered with anything else. Your brother, having been carefully maneuvered on his cane by Roselyn, is already surrounded by several of the Princess’ friends and hangers on and is answering a flurry of questions both about himself and you as the dance continue.

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>>4367746
>dat music
>these feels

Goddamit forgotten don't make me want get off the Vancewell express
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>>4367746
>>4367744
That was fucking heart warming and cute af
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>>4367746
Well fucking met, lad. We're getting that favor and returning it too.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRxofEmo3HA - Centre of the Dancefloor

Meanwhile, on the floor, the Princess Antoinette is no mean dancer and it takes an effort to keep pace. Thankfully, you do a passable job and make sure that all the most commanding steps and moves of this dance number are dominated by the Royal Body.

“So you are the same Sir Andrei they say was struck by lightning while on pilgrimage?”

“I am, Your Highness.”

“The same Sir Andrei who fought those beastmen alongside Sir Gilbern on the Highway?”

“Yes, Your Highness.”

You find your chest swelling with pride at your achievements being noticed by someone of such distinction.

“And the knight that was involved in that trial of that Vancewell knight back at the end of winter, that wasn’t-?”

“…also me. Your Highness.”

“So you are also the man who slew Sir de Broulert in single combat? A darling of the Pascae courts, I hear.”

Your chest sinks.

“Your Highness, I… yes.”

“And crippled the Duke Fallavon’s firstborn son?”

“I have been informed that he will make a full recovery, Your Highness.” You hesitate before adding. “At least… in time. Hopefully.”

The Princess offers you a rare smile, carefully tailored and visible to any onlookers, to let you know she is done teasing you.

“I find you to be of most enjoyable company, Sir Andrei. I never have to worry about being bored, for one thing.”

“Your Highness is far too kind…”

The rest of your polite conversation is nothing to write home about, not regarding the fact that you danced with a Princess of Cantôn is already going to be a headline in any letter home.

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The Dance Floor - Lady Frida Vancewell [Counter-Intrigue]
> 3 Success: Love is a Battlefield. And you’re winning. In addition to your success at wooing a hated rival, Lady Vancewell is so flustered that she forgets to implement her ploy at all. You have a complete understanding of Lady Vancewell’s intentions, the Marquis courtship status and even what her personal view of you was and is. Lady Vancewell counter-intrigue is negated. It is possible to ask for her favour, and such a request will likely (perhaps due to social pressure) be granted.
>Crit-pass! Drugs. Rock n’ Roll. Badass Vancewell hoes. Late night booty calls…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IMRxMKbZjU – A racy Romani song at the Duke’s Ball

“I see you’re something of a passable dancer.” The compliment is bestowed grudgingly, and likely more for the benefit of other nearby dancers than for yourself. Lady Frida Vancewell cranes her neck in closer, hissing in your ear. “Though I don’t know what gives you the bright idea to now approach me.

“I prefer to save the best for last.” Lady Vancewell blinks at your dazzling grin, the façade of forced politeness slips only for a second in the face of your unexpected flirtation before she recovers. You press on. “As for my skills as a dancer, allow me to demonstrate them to My Lady…”

It was a fairly straightforward matter to convince the nearby musicians to play this track next. After all, following your performance with the Princess you have earned a little currency in dictating the music. Gasps greet the recognisably racy tune, some delighted and some indignant. Several dance partners hasten off the floor to give this dance a miss, leaving you and Lady Vancewell largely deserted as the comparatively tame overture of the song begins. Your dance partner’s eyes flick back at you accusingly, she clearly recognises the dance coming up.

‘Attrape le Cygne’, really?” Lady Vancewell appears to all the world as supremely confident in her ability to follow the considerably racy dance through to the end. “This was your choice? You’re going to make us both look like utter fools.”

You are the only one close enough to notice the near-imperceptible tremble in her throat and the sudden tenseness of the hand on the back of your shoulder. You would have missed those tell-tale signs of nervousness if you had even blinked. The demands of this upcoming song have your dance partner concerned.

“Yet again, My Lady underestimates me.” You bow as she curtsies, palms pressed flat against one another. The smooth velvet of her black glove feels smooth against your hand. “It really isn’t all that different from some of the blademaster forms. Just follow my lead.”

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>>4367746
Pure and cute.
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“As if I had some other choice!” Your dance partner hisses, before flinching back when she realised how close she had leaned in. You can still feel the warm breath tingling on your neck. “And what to you mean ‘yet again’?”

“I would call setting your unpleasant little backwoods crony on me to be an underestimation of my abilities of the most supreme order.”

“That- that was a misunderstanding!” Lady Vancewell is an accomplished operative, but she appears to have been unprepared for the outright accusation of attempted murder. “In fact, I don’t even know what you’re talking about!”

“Please, it’s not the even the attempt that I’m most insulted by. It’s the- hold on, you need to twirl here, lean and then- yes, there we go.” You continue speaking in hushed tones, ignoring the polite applause at the small feat of acrobatics required of you two for that part of the dance. “As I was saying, it’s not the attempt itself. I mean really, barely half-a-dozen slouches with rusty blades? I don’t merit even a mere dozen professional killers? And is it too much to ask that they have at least heard of soap and razors at some point in their lifetimes?”

“Well… it really is just impossible to find good help these days.” Lady Vancewell tosses her hair over her shoulder and looks away, all part of the dance. “It was Daddy’s idea anyway.”

“Daddy?” You ask, bemused. “You mean Lord Vancewell?”

“Of course, unless you mean to imply my father is someone else?” Lady Vancewell smiles coyly, obviously enjoying divulging this to her would-be target.

“As with all beautiful women, My Lady tries to turn my adoration into insult.”

“Oh, please! That line is straight out of ‘Victoria’s Ballroom Lessons’.” Lady Vancewell grins like a junior player making a smart move on the board. She’s enjoying herself, and your attention, more than she is ready to let on. “You’ll have to be more persistent than that, Sir Andrei.”

“If there is one virtue that My Lady knows I extol, it is surely persistence.”

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“Hmm. I suppose…” Lady Vancewell twists, her usually pale face flushes as she keeps step with you. The next part of the dance requires the two of you to remain quite close together. Fairly standard in Romaine, but teetering on the scandalous in other courts. Her fluttering breath against your neck only adds to your racing pulse from the efforts of the dance. “He absolutely hates you, you know. Daddy, I mean. For your part in what happened to my late brother. Not to mention setting back arrangements with my suitor for Almighty knows how long…”

“I only did what was right…” You ponder on what the Marquis courtship set-back means.

“Yes, yes I get it. You don’t have to carry on with your golden-boy act for my sake, you know.” The effort to keep up with the demanding moves and hold a hushed conversation at the same time has Lady Vancewell short of breath as she twirls again on the next chorus. “I certainly didn’t shed any tears over poor, old Hast. Well, no more than was expected of me at least.”

“You and were brother were not close?”

“Let’s just say the manner of his untimely end didn’t surprise me in the least. Though the publicity of a trial to go with it did. He was- don’t you dare drop me-” As the music reaches its crescendo, the heaving chest of Frida Vancewell clung tightly against you, she whispers breathlessly into your ear. Your sister Roselyn has said some pretty heartless things in her time, but all that pales in comparison to Frida’s discard for her own close kin’s execution. “He was cruel little boy and would have been a cruel little lord. You did me, and likely our House, a massive favour. He would never have been the one to lead us to the Duke’s title. Of course, Daddy doesn’t quite look at it the same way. Curses, promises of vengeance, serious oaths and on and on. All very manly hot air at the banquet table.”

“Are you sure you don’t have a bit of Romani in you?” You nearly pant the words, simultaneously relieved and disappointed as the Catch the Swan tune draws to a close. The two of you were the only dance partners to persist up to this last stanza.

Frida Vancewell sidles up to you, a little closer than strictly necessary as the two of you turn and bow to the applauding audience. “A little, on my mother’s side. Why?”

“Robert, aren’t you listening?” In the background, distracting you for a moment, you can just barely hear the Third Herald’s voice. “You haven’t taken your eyes of the dance floor since… Reginae wept man, you look like you’ve seen a ghost! Do you need to take a seat? Here, try some spirits instead of the wine. Sterner stuff, there’s a good man. Now, as I was saying…”

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>>4367764
>“It was Daddy’s idea anyway.”
>Daddy

Looks like she loves her father and he spoils her with love.
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Lady Frida Vancewell departs from the floor before you can answer her question, leaving you bereft of a surprisingly intoxicating dance partner. She managed to keep up at every step, though towards the end she seemed happy to let you take the lead. You cannot restrain yourself from watching her glide away, as do half the males in the room. At the last moment before leaving your sight she turns and gives you a look over her shoulder.

You’ve seen that same kind of look once before, when a certain Wastelander woman asked if you wanted to borrow her book.

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(1) Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny
> Mademoiselle Daubeny is a gentle and kind-hearted girl, she would make a fine wife. It is not so bad, imagining a life settling down with her. Perhaps with you, she can find some small measure of happiness. Anyone who threatens her happiness will face your blade. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]

> You cannot fill the hole in Josephine Daubeny’s heart left by the death of her betrothed. It would be cruel of you to try, or to lead her on in any manner. Your future path is far from a safe one. The death of another suitor, this one carrying her favour, could very well break her. [Hearty] + [Do not ask for favour]

> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]


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(2) Lady Frida Vancewell
>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]

> Thankfully, it appears your efforts at charming her have paid off. You won’t have to worry about Lady Vancewell targeting you maliciously in the future. But you’re not about to stick your hand in the lioness’ mouth just because this lioness has a pretty face and some moves. The two of you are far too much opposites of one another. [Idealist] + [Do not ask for favour]
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>>4367771
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4367771
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> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]


2)
>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
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Forgotten you are absolutely knocking it out of the park with your writing lately. That was heart warming, exciting and most of all, fun.
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>>4367764
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>>4367771
>Ambitions to Duchy
>The complete opposite of Daubney
>Gilberns fucking face

Fuck me if my two frontrunner waifu's aren't even remotely similar I love this

(1) Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

DAUBNEY IDEALIST END

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(2) Lady Frida Vancewell
>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]

VANCEWELL HAUGHTY END
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>>4367771
>> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]
Protecc Smile

>>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
POWER COUPLE TIME
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>>4367771
Clarification, if we go for both, we will have an option to do them at different times, yes?
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>>4367779
Important fucking question
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>>4367744
>>4367746
My heart. Why is she so great.
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>>4367771
(1)
>You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

RESTORE HER BROKEN HEART AND HER FAITH IN CHIVALRY INTENSIFIES

(2)
>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]

CONQUER HER HEART AND TURN THE VILLAINESS TO GOODNESS WITH LOVE INTENSIFIES
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>>4367771
>> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]
>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4367767
>“Robert, aren’t you listening?” In the background, distracting you for a moment, you can just barely hear the Third Herald’s voice. “You haven’t taken your eyes of the dance floor since… Reginae wept man, you look like you’ve seen a ghost! Do you need to take a seat? Here, try some spirits instead of the wine. Sterner stuff, there’s a good man. Now, as I was saying…”

Just a quick glimpse into Sir Gilbern's thoughts on the dancefloor.

>>4367771

> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]

Daubeny deserves to not be accosted by suitors all year from her mother, and if we didn't take Vancewell's favour, I'm pretty sure Ros would skin us alive and never let us down for this opportunity.
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>>4367767
>“Robert, aren’t you listening?” In the background, distracting you for a moment, you can just barely hear the Third Herald’s voice. “You haven’t taken your eyes of the dance floor since… Reginae wept man, you look like you’ve seen a ghost! Do you need to take a seat? Here, try some spirits instead of the wine. Sterner stuff, there’s a good man. Now, as I was saying…”
Hahahaha good stuff forgotten

>>4367771
> You cannot fill the hole in Josephine Daubeny’s heart left by the death of her betrothed. It would be cruel of you to try, or to lead her on in any manner. Your future path is far from a safe one. The death of another suitor, this one carrying her favour, could very well break her. [Hearty] + [Do not ask for favour]
We're going to leave for some time. We might die too. It won't be fair to her.

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
Now this is what I call audacious
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oh fuck Vancewell is going to put us smack in the middle of the Montbrune powerstruggle and in the running for a Dukedom if we actually pursue her with success.

consider what we could accomplish with that
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>>4367771
Forgotten, just to check, the favours we will be asking, we're not quite so crass as to take both today right? And we will take one tomorrow or tonight?
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>>4367771
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]
FOR VALOUR

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
ALL ABOARD THE VANCEWELL EXPRESS CHOO CHOO
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>>4367771
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]
It feels wrong to be to direct while she is still in mourning, but we should still try to make her happy and think of us.
> Thankfully, it appears your efforts at charming her have paid off. You won’t have to worry about Lady Vancewell targeting you maliciously in the future. But you’re not about to stick your hand in the lioness’ mouth just because this lioness has a pretty face and some moves. The two of you are far too much opposites of one another. [Idealist] + [Do not ask for favour]
I'd rather not get dragged into her shenanigans. Remember last quest what happened when we started a relationship with a bad girl? Near death and we got a twofer for killing her. Control your dicks and think a few steps after climax.
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>>4367771
(1) Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]
(2) Lady Frida Vancewell
>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]
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Pulling the trigger anyway.
>>4367771
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]
Options to return her favor after standing the last vigil and gives us a chance to recommend Mikail for the Roiguard. Returning through Aubrey and having someone waiting would be nice, and maybe allow for further pursuit.

If we have a choice of which to take, ask for this one tonight.

>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]
The real challenge. Impossible not to take. I love the gold-hearted snob choice too. Might be able to tie in the favor with completing all the vigils, although that's a stretch.
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>>4367771
>> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]
>_
>(2) Lady Frida Vancewell
>>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]

God. What a choice. These two ladies are just wonderful.
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>>4367779
Yes, I will assume that is how it plays out.
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>>4367030
Actually I totally forgot about dancing with the Princess. So yeah, there was an important roll on the dancefloor.
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>>4367771
>> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4367819
Appreciated
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>want to pursue Daubney for that sweet pure protec smile romance
>Want to pursue Vancewell for the exact opposite

Gah I hate having to choose between these two

>>4367819
Awesome is vancwells favor lewd?
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> “Robert, aren’t you listening?” In the background, distracting you for a moment, you can just barely hear the Third Herald’s voice. “You haven’t taken your eyes of the dance floor since… Reginae wept man, you look like you’ve seen a ghost! Do you need to take a seat? Here, try some spirits instead of the wine. Sterner stuff, there’s a good man. Now, as I was saying…”
Top. Fucking. Kek.

>>4367771
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]

Before that nat 1 I was aboard the Daubney train. Goddamnit if Vancewell doesn't promise to be thematical *and* crazy fun though.

Whoever wins I'm going to be satisfied.
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>>4367771
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]
>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4367771
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]

Damn. If we and Frida plays our cards right then we would be in line to a Duchy. That's more than a match with the Princess herself.
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>>4367771
>>4367807
Changing one of my votes to
>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]
due to the fact that there seems to be no chance we will not ask for her favor, but I would prefer it if we at least did it on saner grounds than wanting to have sex with a viper because its cool and because we got a 1(which was awesome). As the option says, "It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did" and we only let our dick do our thinking once and we got cold feet afterwards. Emile has better control of himself. Also, "The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with."? That just doesn't seem like something Emile would think about in-regards to a viper.
>>4367839
Remember that oftentimes crazy fun leads to Bad Things. Doing meth can be Crazy Fun, but rarely ends well.
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>>4367771
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]
>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
The Chad Double Courtship vs the virgin single courtship
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>>4367862
Thats meta-gaming, Emile likely wouldn't be thinking that far ahead. Our sister certainly would, but not Emile.
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>>4367771
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOUtsybozjg
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>>4367862
How are the vancewells in line for the duchy?
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>>4367871
I don't think its really that meta, vancewell mentioned it Emille knows and its not exactly outside his perceptions like say knowing if our angel friend is bonafide or not.

>Remember that oftentimes crazy fun leads to Bad Things. Doing meth can be Crazy Fun, but rarely ends well.

This is litreally part of the appeal here Vancewell is all kind of bad influence for Emille, whereas Daubney is all kinds of wholesome.

>>4367878
good question I think their colours bear some resemblance to the Aulderauge who I think are the dukes from memory maybe they are a House related somehow?
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>>4367809
>>4367771

Changing my (2) Lady Frida Vancewell vote to
>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
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I know she was bookended by two absolutely outstanding showings, but can we agree that the Princess had a charm all her own? She's just cheeky enough that it might be interesting to try and squeeze in some more time with her at another occasion.
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>>4367771
>> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]
>>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]

Still on the Daubeny Train, but if we go with Frida I want a redemption arc.
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>>4367896
Honestly its pretty unlikely we will ever talk again for the rest of the quest.
She is a princess after all.
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jesus christ i can't believe dancing with Vancewell went that well, poor Gilbert doesn't know what the hell is going on anymore.
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>>4367883
So you want Emile to slowly get corrupted? He already has enough conflicts with his religious issues. Plus, when we were in the battle with those thugs 1 thread ago, we started having some very bearish instincts. Why pursue trouble when they only reward is sex. Another point is that Emile , for the most part, has a good head on his shoulders. I don't doubt that he would be attracted to her(her physical appearance and the exhilarating dance would make most men attracted to her), but he should have enough self control to not throw himself at her. There is also the fact that he has not been exactly fond of his sisters scheming(not that he doesn't appreciate them, he just seems a bit perturbed) that seeing a woman who has said even worse things would hopefully be a bucket of cold water on his libido
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>>4367871
Eh Frida pretty much admitted that it was her family's endgame.
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>>4367897
I doubt Frida will ever change *that* much. At most, she can be another Roslyn - someone whose cunning and scheming is aimed in the 'right' direction.

Which is perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned.

>>4367883
This is theoretical but imagine the Chad Move:
> Emile dicks Vancewells to the other side of the political struggle
> Vancewell sell out old allies and their secrets
> they are rewarded with Montbrun's Duchy for their 'loyalty' (IIRC the Duke is on the opposite side of the shadow war)
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>>4367771
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

> Thankfully, it appears your efforts at charming her have paid off. You won’t have to worry about Lady Vancewell targeting you maliciously in the future. But you’re not about to stick your hand in the lioness’ mouth just because this lioness has a pretty face and some moves. The two of you are far too much opposites of one another. [Idealist] + [Do not ask for favour]
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>>4367909
Sorry, I must have missed that.
>>4367900
Considering we keep making noise to the point that she can rattle of several of our incidents, I wouldn't be surprised if we see her again.
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>>4367900
There's a couple opportunities, depending.
>shutting down a slaving ring
>performing well in the grand tourney
>Mikail and the Roiguard
Among others, I'm sure. Not that Emile should pursue her romantically, but it might be nice to have her ear or favor.
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>>4367771

> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4367771
>You cannot fill the hole in Josephine Daubeny’s heart left by the death of her betrothed. It would be cruel of you to try, or to lead her on in any manner. Your future path is far from a safe one. The death of another suitor, this one carrying her favour, could very well break her. [Hearty] + [Do not ask for favour]

>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4367927
Frida Vancewell theme song
https://youtube.com/watch?v=J-_HTUapDQo
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>>4367908
Not strictly speaking but it makes for an interesting story if their is a flirtation or a struggle with being less than an Idealist Vancwell practically drips with that narrative and I find appeal in Emille engaging with her as a genuine romantic partner for what she challenges in him and the contrast she offers to Daubney as a route, if Daubney is sweet juice, Vancewell is a clawing dark viciously sour red wine.
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>>4367913
Im beginning to think that chad move is an actual manuver someone could pull in that conflict, all it requires is the pieces aligning in the right way like oh I dunno some virtuous knight pinning a slaving ring to a certain Duke.
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We should tell Gilbern everything we've learned. Or perhaps that will confuse him more. lol
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>>4367945
>[shadowrunning intensifies as Sir Gilbern tries to understand the storm that is sir Andrei]
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If this is Sir Robert Gilbern's reaction right now, imagine what his reaction will be like after the Ball Room interactions.
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i'll get me some sleep
cant wait so see the amount of samefaggery that this vote is due
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>>4367931
I will not deny that it would make for a very interesting story, I am using two metrics to guide my votes: is this something that Emile would do(multiple options are acceptable, as Emile is defined by multiple values and precedents), and would this give the best (happy and safe) outcomes for Emile(and thus also his loved ones). I would prefer not to pursue Vancewell any further as her viper like nature should be setting off alarm bells in Emile's mind(What Would Emile Do) and the relationship will probably drag Emile into situations that will not be good for his health or psyche, such as unnecessary intrigue and Vancwell attempting to convince him to betray his principles(Happy and Safe). If he mearlycourts her without letting his libido control him, it can be rationalized as simple attraction and he tells himself he can leave her if it goes south or can change her if possible(WWED). With him having a tighter control over himself, he can avoid getting in to deep and will have a better chance of finding mutual love, rather than lust and will be able to remove himself from the relationship without as much screaming or blades(HS).
As for Daubeny, while I do prefer her over Vancwell and I do like her, I am not set on her. I apologize if TL;DR, but I wished for properly express myself and I have become invested in this quest and Emile and desire many happy endings, which will already require great effort without attempts to make the quest more interesting.
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>>4367771
>> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]
>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4367959
Thats a solid way of looking at things but I disagree with your conclusion as an immediate option, I think that while Alarm bells are clearly sounding for Emille their is an intoxication in Vancewells nature that he can't help be attracted to in a very strong way regardless of if it compromises his safety or health furthermore I think its not just an attraction of a sexual nature but a seduction to also give in to something darker in him though weither he engages in that to a point or even at all is something to consider.

I could see a failure to follow Vancewell to the end resulting Emille recentering himself around Idealist virtue and who better to encourage that in the fair maiden Daubney who he sought to make smile.
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>>4367771
> You cannot fill the hole in Josephine Daubeny’s heart left by the death of her betrothed. It would be cruel of you to try, or to lead her on in any manner. Your future path is far from a safe one. The death of another suitor, this one carrying her favour, could very well break her. [Hearty] + [Do not ask for favour]

>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4367972
Yes, she is indeed very intoxicating, and yes failing Vancwell and and going back to Daubney is also an interesting way for the story to go. However, I did also state that courting her, but using the Haughty option instead of the Hearty one, will cover both bases as while her intoxicating nature has gotten Emile to court her, the fact that her father hates us, she has said some rather unpleasant things and has sent people to kill us, should make Emile a little more cautious. Again, I am not denying that Vancewell has some hooks in Emile, but Emile isn't horrifically dense enough to not notice them.
There is also that fact that we still have to ASK for a favor from both of them. We may still flub those, who knows.
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>>4367981
I'm aware my option pick is not entirely in line with my rational behind the attraction however I also don't think its particularly out of character for emille to have that thought as well given what she has said about herself & her family, true prehaps he might take some caution with some foresight about future complications but that shouldn't IMO trump what is an intoxicating and enthralling love interest.
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Man these successive performances on the dancefloor should give us some kind of bonus for the final arena.
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>>4367994
It is that very intoxicating nature that makes me think that Emile would court her in the first place. With all of the issues before the ball, Emile would defiantly be a bit cautious, doubly so with what she said. It is my notion that her attractive power is what makes the courting with caution more likely than no courting, instead of it making courting with lust more likely than courting with caution. It still has an effect , but Emile's initial has influence as well.
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>>4368014
I think we can court her with both with caution and lust however I do think at least intially lust has the initiative as it's both mutual and intoxicating.

Caution can come when the storm subsides
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>>4368024
We were, however, wary of her to begin with, so caution should have the initiative. The lust is why we are pursuing her in the first place, I was merely using the term to signify the Hearty option. I said in a prior post that I could buy lust being the driving factor, only that the more cautious one seems more like Emile, so if we did go for the lusty route, than yes, we would be far more cautious. I simply believe that we wont need caution after the storm subsides if the storm does not come.
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>>4367771
> You cannot fill the hole in Josephine Daubeny’s heart left by the death of her betrothed. It would be cruel of you to try, or to lead her on in any manner. Your future path is far from a safe one. The death of another suitor, this one carrying her favour, could very well break her. [Hearty] + [Do not ask for favour]

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4368036
I guess we're going to have to simply disagree on that last part then as you clearly don't view the lust as having the same command over Frida and Emille as I do.
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Come on kniggas. Don't tell me you don't find the idea of the chivalrous knight having the villainess find the goodness in her heart with love to be a great one. It will be great character development for Lady Frida Vancewell and foster a loving relationship between Emile and Frida.
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>>4367771
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

>>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]

Just woke up looks like I'll never get to roll due to my eastern standard time of living but good God this was a wild ride!
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>>4367771
>> You cannot fill the hole in Josephine Daubeny’s heart left by the death of her betrothed. It would be cruel of you to try, or to lead her on in any manner. Your future path is far from a safe one. The death of another suitor, this one carrying her favour, could very well break her. [Hearty] + [Do not ask for favour]

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]

LET'S GO
I fucking love this cat and mouse game between Andrei and Frida Vancewell. She's a dangerously venomous plant, that's for sure.
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>>4367950
We should invite Gilbern to hang out after the inquiry, so he can pick our brain a bit and help him process what the hell happened at the Ball and the angel stuff, as well as re-affirm our friendship. Also to play matchmaker between him and Roselyn.
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>>4368056
Ive almost never gotten to roll for the same reason, so I try to make up for it in the discussions before and after rolls.
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>>4368075
Speaking of the inquiry, imagine the reaction of Lord Kasper Alexandi the Third Herald when it's revealed that Emile is the masked knight who Kamikazed Anarchy with a Hail Mary.
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>>4368082
>Kamikazed

Should be ''kamikazed*'' with no capitalisation.
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>>4367771
> You cannot fill the hole in Josephine Daubeny’s heart left by the death of her betrothed. It would be cruel of you to try, or to lead her on in any manner. Your future path is far from a safe one. The death of another suitor, this one carrying her favour, could very well break her. [Hearty] + [Do not ask for favour]
She will have to ask us herself.


>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
Thus is the only way i see us going at courting her.

>>4365877
This is me; and other stuff i did.
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>>4367778
Changing the Daubeny vote to
> You cannot fill the hole in Josephine Daubeny’s heart left by the death of her betrothed. It would be cruel of you to try, or to lead her on in any manner. Your future path is far from a safe one. The death of another suitor, this one carrying her favour, could very well break her. [Hearty] + [Do not ask for favour]

She deserves a simple loving country gentleman not someone who braves death near daily like us.
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>>4367771
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
she has the heart of cain
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>>4368146
Cain had a righteous heart. She appears to have one of Thorn.
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>when frida relizes the good boy attitude isn't a mask
wew boy
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>>4368156
>implying
The good boy attitude is there to keep Emile from going BEAR on everyone.
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>>4368176
The virtuous persona that Emile has is part of him. His aggressive and...growing subconscious feral desires are also part of him. They are not exclusive,nor always oppositional.
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>>4367771
(1) Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

(2)
>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4367771
1.Idealist
2.Idealist option seems more in-character, as we expected yo he done with It and selected courtship only yo throw her off her game. I would like to continue having talks with her as an Ally and ser what arises from there. Hell, we could find someone with the pollitical savvy to maneuver through factions un the turbulento times that Will follow. I would like to ask for her favor to hace an excuse for meeting her ir sending her letters, but the haughty justification seems very very bad.
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>>4367025
>>4368268
Me
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>>4367767
>“Are you sure you don’t have a bit of Romani in you?”

After tonight, the answer'd be yes regardless of ancestor.

>>4367771

> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4368125
> Not getting an extra favour to burn.
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>>4367771
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4368102
I think i didnt fully read some of thr votes so im now chnageing to


> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

But i dint want to lead her on, just wana help a woman out.
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>>4367771
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4367771
>> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

>>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]

Any bonuses from this round of interactions Forgotten, since I don't think we're receiving the favours immediately? Or is skipping the Counter-Intrigue itself considered the boon already?
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>>4368414
Im sure we will be getting something from dancing with the princess and not fucking up.
Hopefully itl be enguh to not get raped by the end of the night.
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>>4367771
>> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4367771
(1) Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny
>You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

(2) Lady Frida Vancewell
>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
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>> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]
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>>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]
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>(1) Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny
>> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]
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>(2) Lady Frida Vancewell
>>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]

Ok that was amazing. My god, why are these two ladies so great.

With such a debut I hope we get a bonus to dancing in the future and another to the next arena.
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This thread has been absolutely AMAZING
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>>4368609
This is amazing, but I wish you had changed the names of nations on the right side, and the word Moose to Turtlewolves
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>>4368617
I’m gonna keep working on it. Apparently if I don’t write enough the generator fills it with a preset article
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Has anyone gleaned what the Night of the Three Sisters was?
Its referenced a lot in the lore but Im not sure we've had a clear answer on what it was
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>>4368646
Emile's 3 sisters got ploughed at once by a beastman. That's the Night of the Three Sisters.
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>>4368646
Beyond a catastrophe that consumed larger Romanie and Ardenne? Not really only that it's some serious powerful shit that has it's origins in some other evil than the pit or other traditional enemies of Canton and it's basically responsible for the deadmen and their masters
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>>4368646

The major event that defined Romaine was it's fall from grace during the Night of Three Sisters (when Canton's skies showed a freakish red third moon) and the Deadmen claimed Ardennes. Aside from the dead, Romaine occasionally has to contend with wayward beastfolk bands and Carthagi slavers. The Carthagi would only have dreamed of assailing Romaine before the Night of Three Sisters, since that decline they have grown bold enough to at times outright invade the southern coasts.

Every able-bodied man in Romaine serves a tour of duty in Holy Orders patrolling the borders of the 'safe' countryside within sight of the shores of Ardenne. It has been generations since the Deadmen last marched in force, but they never rest entirely easy and many of these young men never finish their year of service. Romaine is also currently out of favour with the King, for the Duchess is loathe to draw any forces away from their lands to support him.
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>>4368646
The deadmen or Weidergǟngers rise for the first time on our home duchy of Romaine, if I understand correctly it was call the Duchy of Ardenne at that time. Fall of Ardenne happens soon after, with the Ducal House of Ardenne going extinct for all intents and purposes and Ardenne the city, taken along with it's people by the deadmen. If the tales told to our grandfather are to be believe Ardenne the city was larger and more populous than Aubres and richer than Pascae.
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Been reading through old threads for a refresher and look for info that may have been missed, and currently caught up to the ambush by Craig of Lowgrove. A couple of things stuck out about that ambush to me that may be relevant to the faction war bits.

>>4367764

>“Well… it really is just impossible to find good help these days.” Lady Vancewell tosses her hair over her shoulder and looks away, all part of the dance. “It was Daddy’s idea anyway.”

>“Daddy?” You ask, bemused. “You mean Lord Vancewell?”

>“Of course, unless you mean to imply my father is someone else?” Lady Vancewell smiles coyly, obviously enjoying divulging this to her would-be target.

We already know that the Vancewells were involved in the faction from Hast's confessions on the road, but this shows some more concrete involvement there in addition to the other evidence. Lord Vancewell wanted us dead in exchange for Sir Vancewell, so he reached out contacts. Given what we knew from Craig in thread #13 about his hiring and trace back to Lazar from the other investigations and events, this shows a tighter connection between House Vancewell and Lazar. There may be more middlemen between them still, but if Lord Vancewell sought Lazar out due to his reputation as a fixer in the Prince's Faction, it could be worth trying to work out whether Lord Vancewell knew him from prior dealings (Potentially being the Lord who introduced the Faction to Lazar?), or from being a smaller part of the Faction that is tied in mainly from vassalage to Duke Montbrun. (Information that we got from the ruined fort in thread #16 from the henchmen Egil and Orin implicated Duke Montbrun's involvement in the Faction).

I'm not 100% sure why the Duke was involved in the Faction yet, (Whether it was strictly vassalage to the Crown Prince, desire for higher standing amongst the other dukes, or purely greed for land and wealth) but House Vancewell stands with them likely due to expected responsiblities and the potential for more power rather than love of their liegelord. (>>4367767 with the following passage)
>Your sister Roselyn has said some pretty heartless things in her time, but all that pales in comparison to Frida’s discard for her own close kin’s execution. “He was cruel little boy and would have been a cruel little lord. You did me, and likely our House, a massive favour. He would never have been the one to lead us to the Duke’s title. Of course, Daddy doesn’t quite look at it the same way. Curses, promises of vengeance, serious oaths and on and on. All very manly hot air at the banquet table.”


I admit, a lot of this is probably old news to the more sharp-eyes readers, but I thought I'd lay it out a bit for the thickos like me, and get a bit more of the intrigue talk moving along from the ball before everyone focuses too much on shitposting and thirst. We got a lot of confirmation of older knowledge and prior insights from that dance with Frida,
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>>4368711
The Dukes likely involved in the slaving ring due to a very small power gap between him and the next house in line for the ducky which I am going to assume is house Vancewell, back in the ruins we heard this

If our employer can’t pay us without dabbling in the slave trade how in the seven seas can he afford to remain D-”

We need confirmation but things seem to imply Montbrune is heavily involved in things
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>>4368609
Updated version
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>>4368746
Bloody hell, this is top tier OC memery.
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>>4368726
No more confirmation required.

https://archived.moe/qst/thread/3924727/#3931668

>”Shut it, Orin. You can whine to his Dukeness about your moral qualms. I’m sure he won’t throw you off the top of one of his bloody mountains.”The light-eyed one called ‘Egil’ is made of colder stuff. And he’s unwittingly confirmed that the Duke Montbrun is a conspirator, perhaps even the mastermind. ”You took the coin, now you bloody earn it. Let’s leave these lads to it.”

Furthermore the miners who were dispatched from Montbrun and were what got our brother caught up in this mess were dispatched from the Duke too. The letter all but confirms it.

https://archived.moe/qst/thread/4248478/#4273368

>It will take time to secure an excavation team from the major sponsor. Lazar has promised unskilled labour if that should fail.
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>>4368746
Top effort anon I nearly cried reading about tutlewolves.

>>4368765
Oh shit I completely missed that
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>>4368776
Archived.moe has a search function which you can use to narrow down by post author and board. Its very very useful for quickly trawling for missed information.
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>>4368765
>>4368776
It was also the Duke who directly hire the Golden Sun Company.

>”Yes, yes. Il Contratto è Tutto. Hopefully we’ll see some action at last… I’m tired of having men go missing only to find them with throats slit or riddled with arrows days later. I want a proper battle, damn it!” Prima Russo nods along wearily, unhappy but resigned to carrying out his orders. ”Still… women and children? Mates and offspring? Whatever these ‘bestia’ call them. This all seems a bit… industrial? If our employer can’t pay us without dabbling in the slave trade how in the seven seas can he afford to remain D-”
>”Mind your tongue! These woods have ears… Our employer needs the males to help with the excavation. They’re close, apparently. We won’t be here long. In the meantime, this helps pay our bills and theirs.” Lazar, an unassuming man with no clear rank or status, speaks with an authoritative finality. ”Your objection is noted.”

>>4368783
Got most relevant details compile here, should probably update it now that Sir Hewitt has implicated himself.
https://pastebin.com/bLgnvK4L
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>>4368793
We really really need another sitdown with Sir Gilbern after this to show what we know and what opportunities we have now. Maybe even rope in our sister if he'll read her into this mess.
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>>4368783
Yeah I mostly rely on sup th and the basic search function but usually for stuff I remember reading not stuff I've straight up missed.

>>4368793
That's really interesting, if our investigation bears fruit it could very well lead to an in with house Vancewell consdiering we could likely serve the. Up legitimacy and popular support to their claim on a golden platter.
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>>4368796
I slaving ring and everything attached to it is a mess where we really need to find out who's on which side and if they have larger factional support in canton.
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>>4368799
The IN would probably be with Lady Vancewell. I think the lord is far too deep into his revenge cups to actually change course and seeing how the Duke is one of the principals behind the noble faction, having the Vancewells turncoat to serve the Queen would put them in a good position to usurp the Dukedom by way to removing a hindrance and installing a local ally.
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>>4368799
>sup to
>the.

Sup tg* them* fuck phoneposting

fucking phoneposting
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>>4368808
You may be right about that but we'd be literally giving them everything needed to tip their ambitions into favorable conditions and then some and I doubt lord Vancewell would look poorly on that even if he still hated us for Hast's death.
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>>4368726

That makes sense. If the Duke is going through hard times because of the rising Snakemen menace affecting the trade between the Freemen and Canton, he's likely getting desperate to widen the gap between Montbrun and Alderauge. Alderauge could have doubled the tolls (Event we learned from Tracker Jean in Aubres) from the menace, but it could also be from pressure from Duke Montbrun to help fund the excavations of the Son of Sin. If the Duke pressured Alderauge with political power to raise tolls and then insist on taking the increased toll money as taxes due to his liegelord status, he knows it's a matter of time before a backlash is coming down the pipe. Backlash he will be struggling with because Alderauge is stronger militarily (Information we got from interactions with Karlaus). That could explain his reliance on the Vancewells, considering they have wealth and relatively stress-free holdings (More info from Karlaus).

As for Vancewell's part in it, it's likely to be purely mercenary at this point, aimed at getting wealth securing position to potentially knock-off the Alderauge's position as 2nd-strongest House with Montbrun's support. The pegasi being captured that led to the rivalry with House Rabe could be also be for sale to the Cathagi in addition to the Snakemen. It would make sense in that manner, taking advantage of contacts with Lazar and House Hewitt's involvement in the slave trade to make some more bucks along the side. Plus, the Cathagi will want them because of the Dragon's wish to expand his menagerie (Info we got from the Stratiokas we helped on the way to Aubres).

Montbrun will probably be wary about helping Vancewell upwards, given that they undoubtably want [i]a[/i] Dukedom, but they are one of the bigger players that he's got in his camp (See the fact that Frida was in courtship with Marquis Fallovan. Not everyone is worthy of being married off to a Duke's heir). Montbrun may have thought that a relief, with them moving attentions westwards rather than inwards, but the wrinkle from us crippling the Marquis might be making him more stressed that they might decide to go back to aiming at his Dukedom given what happened in Fallovan.

Man, our bumbling bear ass has just been going on a goddamn tear through these plans. No wonder they wanted us dead, and that Sir Gilbern is getting stressed as shit given that he doesn't know what we do.
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Forgotten, is Lord Vancewell married? Will he have more children with his wife if he is? If he isn't married currently, then will he remarry? Are there any other members of House Vancewell besides Lord Vancewell and his daughter Lady Frida Vancewell? Is it OOC info/knowledge for Emile to know of any of this?
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>>4368819
>widen the gap between Montbrun and Alderauge
I thought Alderauge was the Ducal house of Montbrune?

The snakemen are probably not a pre-existing stress to Montbrunes outside of petty concern, I think the powerstruggle between Alderauge and Vancewell has been the main concern up until the rise of the prime serpent and all manuvers have been to improving the stances of the houses positions in montbrune, raising tariffs to the waste, engaging in slavery, possibly even dealing with the SoS buisness all have probably been done with keeping or gaining the edge in the powerstruggle.

If Vancewell isn't directly engaged in the Ducal contest I agree their position is likely mercenary which is why they rub the wrong way with House rabe which by most appearances are Traditional conservatives believing fealty to the old Duke being worth more than ambitious advancement, also if Vancewell is directly involved in the Ducal contest it puts the match with the Marquis of Fallavon in a much more political light as a manuver to gain wider support in canton to match if I remember correctly the Montbrunes connection to the crown.
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>>4368746

Almost missed this due to writing walls-o'-text and talking to family, but this is fucking choice Anon.

>>4368837

No, they're the #2 in the Duchy. Kinda like the Gilberns to Pascae, but with a relationship more in line with Sinclair to Fallovan. Even more-so, considering Montbrun is the owner of the neighbouring Citadel Torwatcher gate to the north of Gabriel's Gate that is under Alderauge control (One of the updates of Tracker Jean's caravan in thread #13). Vancewell is a prominent house in Montbrun, but at the podium yet. Rabe's distaste is a combination of neighbourly issues (Karlaus' conversation about the pegasi makes it sound like they share borders),the fact that Vancewell have more profitable and peaceful holdings compared to House Rabe, and the same general distaste Rabe has for political intrigue that is common in that duchy (Information from the pastebins).
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>>4368837
Nope. Regions are named after their ruling houses. Hence like how the Dukedom of Ardennes became the modern Dukedom of Romaine.

>"No, the opposite. He claimed to have the backing of the Duke and even the Crown Prince, and the Order Reginae was quick to act on his vulnerability when the opportunity arose.” You frown, recalling Sir Gilbern’s declaration that the sentence be carried out summarily before appeal. You wonder whether Sir Gilbern even cared whether the verdict was true or not. You hold no illusions that his comrades were behind the slaughter of the miners, and that may explain why the mercernaries ramped up their slaving operations. ”It’s clear both sides wanted as few outsider witnesses as possible, but this John Tailor acted on the behest of a third party. I suspect your nameless benefactor was Lord Alderague, which indicates that the Montbrun nobles are at the very least not united behind their Duke’s plot. And I have less and less reason to doubt Sir Vancewell’s claims of having the Crown Prince’s faction.”

I wonder what kind of shadowruns are going through the Crown Prince's head.

>Hes dancing with my sister... hmm not too bad
>Wait, why is he walking towards Lady Vancewell
>Didnt he kill her brother?
>Why is she smiling like that? Do they know each other?
>Was the killing of her brother preplanned? wtfff
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We have to treat Dame Stoutsworth to a bunch of grapes after this, her re-rolls have been the MVP during this whole thread.
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>>4368843
>but not at the podium yet.

You read these things over and over to check for errors, and they still sneak in.
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>>4368845

Given that she's an ermine (relative to ferrets and stoats), she'll be better off with meat or cooked eggs. A hardboiled egg and some cuts of rabbit would probably be the best and easiest to get a hold of.
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>>4368843
Interesting then thats means Alderauge is the primary threat in the Ducal contest and vancewell seems to improve its standing by association, given their colours are similar they prehaps share familial ties which also gives Vancewell the claim though problem'd by Alderauge's house though I think they might not have a secure lineage if Vancewell has even the chance of becoming the Ducal house.

>>4368844
>All the shadowrunners are struggling to even concieve of what machiavellian scheme house Andrei and Emille plot
>Meanwhile Emille just goes ''haha shield go clang'' ''vancewell pretty''
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>>4368863

>Anon's started quest debating on being idealistic and young pious knight out for adventure.
>Keep falling dick-first into intrigue and plots while trying to find missing brother and finish a straightforward pilgrimage.
>"What is this goddamn Romani country bumpkin doing? He doesn't even have a squire of noble blood, plumes in his helmet, or a Mustang horse!"
>"huhuh empty head is vessel for almighty" "copperclippers swerve, real knigga in da hood" "mess around in court? no way fag, gotta stand vigil in slaver city"

God, I'm so glad Montbrunfag got btfo after GAbe got got, and can die assmad forever. Chad Romani for the win.
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>>4368873
And due to us knowing how bad he'd do in courtly intrigue, we've specced him pretty decently with dame stoutsworth and with what I expect are politiking bonuses from Vancewell's favour, hes actually probably going to continue doing well in this arena.
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>>4368873
I can see our happy ending already, we come back from our pilgrimage after serving a term in the dragonguard loaded with gold and maybe a religious artifact, marry Madamoiselle Daubeny, begin the slow process of taking back the ancestral Andrei lands and naming our first born son Gabriel ending the quest on a full circle.
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>>4368873
Yeah Emille's journey has been an absolute blast so far and its only getting more interesting as he's done more shit.

>>4368877
I think he could do with a bit more courtly apparel even with the suspected Vancewell bonus, upgrading to Impresive finery at least would be a hell of a boon.
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>>4368881
Comes with that downside of being a magnet for enemy due to the sheer amount of bling.
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>>4368883
yeah but +5dc and +1rerolls to persuade/courtship though and it gets even better with the reknowned artist quality.

admittedly we still need more counter-intrigue shit hopfully Pascae/Carthaggi markets has some.

>>4368880
I don't think Vancwell would eliminate a ''good'' end but Daubney is the sweeter more virtuous route.
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>>4368880
>marry Lady Vancewell

Just fixing up that typo for you anon
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You all do know that there is no chance in the Pit that our courtship of Frida will lead to anywhere right? Her father absolutely hates us (even if he didn't why would he marry off his sole heiress to a landless second born knight when her suitor is a marquis?). Moreover, Frida clearly loves her father and would never oppose him let alone try to murder him just so she can marry us. The fact that we won her heart and she has fallen for us won't change that.
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>>4368889
Sure sounds like there is an echo in here. I sort of remember someone saying "Hooking up with Vancewell or the Princess would be like winning the lotto"

Who knows what we'll achieve. I never even thought it possible to have Emile achieve something like sainthood, and yet here we are on the cusp
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>>4368746
Everything I wanted.

Luckily for those turtlewolfs, they are known to be strong swimmers due to their paws having vestigial flippers between their toes.
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>>4368895
>"Hooking up with Vancewell or the Princess would be like winning the lotto"

It took a crit so yeah it was like winning the lotto.

>I never even thought it possible to have Emile achieve something like sainthood, and yet here we are on the cusp

I don't think it's possible to be canonized as a saint while you're still alive. Emile's recorded miracle will be in the recorded deeds of the saints, but it only qualifies him to be canonized as a saint once he's passed away.
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just some thoughts i've been having today at work

honestly when you think about both vancewell and daubaney have a similar view of the world they both view honor and chivalry as children's fantasy's and that power only matters in the real world so daubeny retreated from the grim reality of this world where as vancewell accepted and ruthlessly pursues power not things that will make her happy, in truth they both have the same issue we shall show the both of them that honour and chivalry is neither pointless nor a fools errand that leads men to their doom.
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>>4368905
>I don't think it's possible to be canonized as a saint while you're still alive. Emile's recorded miracle will be in the recorded deeds of the saints, but it only qualifies him to be canonized as a saint once he's passed away.

I don't think we actually know that. I'm not sure Forgotten has ever commented on it and this not being earth, things may be different?

>It took a crit so yeah it was like winning the lotto.

1 in 100 isn't exactly lottery level chances
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>>4367771
> Mademoiselle Daubeny is a gentle and kind-hearted girl, she would make a fine wife. It is not so bad, imagining a life settling down with her. Perhaps with you, she can find some small measure of happiness. Anyone who threatens her happiness will face your blade. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]

>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4368907
>I don't think we actually know that. I'm not sure Forgotten has ever commented on it and this not being earth, things may be different?

Maybe but until then I'll presume it's the same as IRL

>1 in 100 isn't exactly lottery level chances

Which is a 1% chance. That's like winning the lotto for me.
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>>4368911
>Which is a 1% chance. That's like winning the lotto for me.
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>>4368903
Wow. It's been a while since that word got thrown around.

And here I was making a much shittier meme, trying to fuck around with wonky text bubbles, relying on people knowing the character to get the full implication of how destructive to the plots of EVERYONE Emile seems to be.
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>>4368906
I think you got it wrong dude, Daubney viewed the world through an Idealistic lens and that viewpoint was cruelly shattered by Rosseau's death to her chivalry and idealism were real and tangiable things whereas Vancewell is a pragmatist cynic viewing it as construct of society and little more than a big dig virtue signal useful but not entirely real.
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>>4368914
1 in 100 is a 1% chance. Do the math before posting an ellipsis. Here this will help you:

https://www.rapidtables.com/math/number/Percentage.html#:~:text=1%20percent%20represents%201%2F100%20fraction.
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>>4368918
I think his implicated response is that a normal lottery has much worse odds than merely 1%.
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>>4368889
>wE hAvE nO cHaNcE wiTh fRidA
It has been said before and proven wrong. We'll win her heart and her father's. There's nothing that can stop a Knigga in love.
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>>4368918
I think the ellipsis were about your ridiculous claim that 1% was even close to lottery winning chances. It's absurd. 1% is an excellent chance at winning compared to the norm
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>>4368923
Obviously a 1% chance is incredibly large compared to the chances of winning the lottery IRL but for the purpose of the quest it's basically the same as a comparison (after it's the lowest we can go)
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>>4368923
It's when that 1% came up that was crazy, tho.
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>>4368889
Gonna make a meme compilation of posts like this when we finally marry her.
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>>4368919
>I think his implicated response is that a normal lottery has much worse odds than merely 1%.

Yeah for him.

>>4368923
>I think the ellipsis were about your ridiculous claim that 1% was even close to lottery winning chances. It's absurd. 1% is an excellent chance at winning compared to the norm

I couldn't disagree more, but I won't bother getting more into it as the chances for winning a lotto aren't what I'm talking about.

>>4368920
>It has been said before and proven wrong

We have no chance with her and it most certainly hasn't been proven wrong though. Getting inside her panties doesn't mean we successfully courted her or married her. Read the courtship steps posted here>>4367626. We can't go into more than 3 steps without her father's approval and permission.

>>4368920
>her father's.

Mate this is delusional I'm sorry. Her father utterly loathes us (she said so herself) for his son's death. If Lord de Broulert wasn't willing to forgive us for the accidental death of his son even after we did an extra penance and refused to court his lady, then Lord Vancewell sure as hell won't forgive us neither.

There's also the matter of Emile being a mere landless second born knight while her suitor is Marquis Fallavon, the heir of the Duchy of Fallavon.
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>>4368940
>If Lord de Broulert wasn't willing to forgive us for the accidental death of his son even after we did an extra penance and refused to court his lady, then Lord Vancewell sure as hell won't forgive us neither.

Every person is exactly the same. Got it
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>>4368940
Cope harder
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>>4368940
>Mate this is delusional I'm sorry.
no u
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>>4368940
Lord vancewell is not Broulert and we won't know if we have a chance if we don't even try you're saying its a foregone conclusion without even daring to delve deeper into it.

sure chances are he will hate us for a long time for our part in Hast's death but their are things we can do to level out the field.
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>>4368945
I'm personally not sure what we might be able to do to convince him to allow us to date his daughter. What I expect more is that his removal/abdication would be a far simpler proposition, especially with the reginae involved and then as THE Lady Vancewell, no ones in a position to tell her who she can or cannot marry.
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>>4368950
yeah nuke the father then get the gril
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>>4368940
He hates us for foiling and messing up with his plans. Now what if we prove a better accessory to his plans then his own son ever could? A full thorns guy like him would see things differently.
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>>4368950
sure removal of lord Vancwell is one Thorny way of dealing with the issue, I think aiding their scheming to the Ducal title is another way prehaps through our own investigation.
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>>4368952

And there's always plan B by simply poisoning him.
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>>4368942
>Every person is exactly the same. Got it

They don't have to be the same person to realize that if a grieving father like Lord de Broulert couldn't bring himself to forgive us for the ACCIDENTAL death of his son EVEN after we took a lightning strike as penance for it and refused to court his lady, then a grieving father like Lord Vancewell will absolutely not forgive us too.

>>4368945
Read what I posted above.

>>4368950
>>4368951
This will not happen. Frida clearly loves her father quite deeply unlike her late elder brother. If any harm comes to him especially from us just so we can marry her, then she will lose her love for us and won't forgive us.
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>>4368953
Well nothing requires us to actually do the killing. And besides, him retiring is totally an option as well and can come as part of the ongoing investigations. If we get Lady Frida to aid in helping the reginae, he could be forced out instead of being killed as part of the bargain struck with Royal authorities.

That'll mean no dead father, a lady frida with full authority and a house more closely aligned with the royal powers.
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>>4368958
We don't need to be forgiven. Vancewell is a thorny boy who sees people by their utility. Aid his schemes well and we'll see how much he actually cares for his son.
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>>4368960
Thats both a fair loophole and an alternative, a coup against him would certainly work things out in a relatively unbloody manner.

Interesting to think about this route and the implications and workarounds it could mean for Emille.
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regardless of what happens we have certainly added much drama to the quest
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>>4368964
Aye. Im having severe withdrawal symptoms from lack of rolls today.
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>>4367771
> You cannot fill the hole in Josephine Daubeny’s heart left by the death of her betrothed. It would be cruel of you to try, or to lead her on in any manner. Your future path is far from a safe one. The death of another suitor, this one carrying her favour, could very well break her. [Hearty] + [Do not ask for favour]
>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]
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>>4368952
>>4368961
>He hates us for foiling and messing up with his plans
>Aid his schemes well and we'll see how much he actually cares for his son.

Have you read what Frida said? He has sworn oaths and promises of vengeance for his son's death.

>>4368955
>>4368960
>>4368963
Frida will not support poisoning her daddy or forcing him to abdicate, especially when we're not going with Haughty to win her over to our way of thinking.
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>>4368964
for sure, I'm actually really eager to see what that booty calls going to show the Vancewell/Emille dynamic
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>>4368958
We have not met her father yet and here you are whining for several posts about how it's impossible. Must be copperclipper or.... MONTBRUNFAG
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>>4367771
> You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]
>Lady Frida Vancewell is a dangerous rival, and not to be underestimated. However, you can hardly raise your blade against a woman of all things. It is your duty to foil her plots through other means. Love, as the bards say, conquers all. You will bring her to the light and win her over to your way of thinking. [Haughty] + [Ask for favour]

Personally, I prefer the Madmoiselle Daubeny, but it seems unchivalrous to woo Vancewell so wholly and then do nothing about it. Might even make her family's hatred of us personal.
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>>4368940
>Yeah for him.

Are you retarded?
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>>4367771
(1)
>You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

(2)
>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]

>>4356598
Linking previous ID
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Rolls for the final arena commence in 1 hour, though I don’t think I have a content update in me tonight.
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>>4369087
considering you burnt candlelight on the Vancewell crit fair enough.
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>>4369087
No prob Forgotten. I look forward to it.
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>>4368835
This is me.
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Gentlemen, with regards to the save, lets make sure to discuss it first before firing.

Otherwise, critfail save is a given of course.
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>>4369106
Dammit, my id changed. This is me.>>4367608
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I bit more of a delay, sorry. Didn't account for some of the write ins. I should be commencing rolls in an hour from now.
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>>4369112
Are we getting any bonuses from the performance?
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>>4369125
For the ballroom? No. You guys have decided to play in the big boys club, a few fancy fly moves won't carry weight here.
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>>4369127
Knew we should have doubled down on courting the ladies, oh well we've done okay/amazing
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I will assume that you receive these favours at some point following the Duke’s Ball itself. At that point you can choose which one to wear. Options to swap will come up but I will be taking a very dim view on any attempts to switch between favours purely for a mechanical advantage in each situation. These are not currently advanced favours, that will require some follow up.

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>You wish to prove to Mademoiselle Daubeny that chivalry prevails, that good does triumph over evil in the end. You feel an obligation to protect her, to give her more time to recover from her grief. If your courtship helps get her mother to back off from oppressing her with suitors, so much the better. [Idealist] + [Ask for favour]

GAINED: Favour of the Maiden Daubeny +1 Re-Roll on Tourney rolls. +1/2/3DC when Battered/Injured/Wounded. +3AV. +Hidden Bonus.


>You should not find the danger inherent in courting Lady Frida Vancewell so attractive. It is in all likelihood very unhealthy, and possibly even sinful, that you found her unrepentant admissions and callousness streak as intoxicatingly seductive as you did. The two of you would be a force to be reckoned with. [Hearty] + [Ask for favour]

GAINED: Favour of the Lady Vancewell +1 Re-Roll on Tourney rolls. +3DC Intrigue. +3DC Counter-Intrigue. +Hidden Bonus.

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>>4369175
? sinclars allowed us to reroll personal combat will these?
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The Ballroom: Bishop Dominos Gilbern [Persuade]
> Lower Social Standing / Reasonable Request
> 40DC
> Write in: (Humility, Inquiry and mention escorting pilgrims) +10DC
> Fashionable Attire +5DC, +1 Re-Roll
> Wealth Status +5DC
> Recorded Miracle +15DC
> Save Face +1 Save (single use)
> Bishop Gilbern: Wealth Status -10DC
> Bishop Gilbern: Fashionable Attire (high clergy) -5DC, +1 Adverse Re-Rolls
> Bishop Gilbern: Impressive Finery -5DC, +1 Adverse Re-Rolls
> 55 DC

Double Fail = The Bishop is a political animal, and is far from immune to outside influence.
0 = The Bishop assumes that you are the behind the rumours regarding your ‘divine revelations’ and is certain this is part of some ploy, and that even your more well recorded feats may have been orchestrated. He will shut down the inquiry hearing before it ever occurs and even strip the preliminary awarding of your Recorded Miracle.
1 = The Bishop believes the story of your pilgrimage vigils and latest trial by lightning, but remains suspicious of the far more unusual claim of divine contact. The question of whether there will be any inquiry into your other claims at all is thrown into doubt by Church bureaucracy, and could take years before you are called to give further evidence, but at least your Recorded Miracle stands.
2 = You come across as sincere and make a good impression, but the Bishop will not rule out that there may be some ulterior motive at play surrounding your more unusual claims. The inquiry will proceed as expected, with the Bishop electing to act as a referee rather than either a supporter or critic.
3 = It remains to be seen whether you are a madman or indeed touched by the divine. In any case, the Bishop does not believe you to be insincere in your claims, you are telling what you believe to be the truth. The inquiry will proceed with all appropriate haste and he will take steps during the hearing to not to let the political concerns of other members of the inquiry get in the way of the truth.
Double Pass = The Bishop offers you his blessing, an extremely high honour by Romaine standards.


3 rolls of 1d100, holy rollers. You have ONE re-roll and ONE save. Your opponent has TWO adverse re-rolls.

Your Excellency, I am most blessed to even kneel in your presence…
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>>4369178
also daubany complementing our shield build is noice
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Rolled 45 (1d100)

>>4369179
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Rolled 45 (1d100)

>>4369179
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>>4369178
That was the advanced favour. Right now you only have the initial favour.
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Rolled 61 (1d100)

>>4369179
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Rolled 38 (1d100)

>>4369179
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Rolled 42 (1d100)

>>4369179
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Rolled 69 (1d100)

>>4369182
Using the first Adverse Re-Roll to counter this result.
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Rolled 85 (1d100)

>>4369186
re-rolling
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>>4369184
ah thank you i forgot that part
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Rolled 77 (1d100)

>>4369183
Using the second Adverse re-roll to counter this result.
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>>4369190
Crap.

>>4369193
You should've waited anon.

>>4369196
Oh crap...
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fuck
this was ruthless i'm electing to use a save for the double losing the inquire would fuck us
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>>4369196
aww shit
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This is some unfortunate shit and really fucks our reputation as well as our Houses rep. Do we want to use the Save? I think we should
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>>4369182
>>4369183
>>4369186
>>4369190
>>4369196

You are currently sitting at 0 success.

Do you wish to use the Save? I will assume it cancels out the double. Vote remains open for 10 minutes.

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>Use Save
>Don't use Save
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do we save the save for later or use it now? this could bone us real bad
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>>4369203
>>4369205
Can we wait to see what the result of the remaining interactions are like? They might be even worse than this.
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>>4369205
>Use Save
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>>4369205
What does the save do ? Does it give us a success ?
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>>4369205
>>Use Save
we have to we will lose alll our gains from the penance from this
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>>4369203
on one hand this only fucks us in the immediate future and their is a chance to get out with our skin on the other, their are very serious ramifications on the line.
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>>4369208
>>4369207
You have to decide now.
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>>4369205
What save give us?
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>>4369208
Or we might not need it and miss this opportunity to fix things. Can't always save every item and potion just to beat the boss without needing them
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>>4369210
negates anything doublles crits makes it a reg success
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>>4369205
>use save
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>>4369210
Yes, it replaces one failure (in this case we will say it's the 77 result) with a success.
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>>4369205

>Use Save

Hard choice, but we'll lose a shitton of progress from before if we don't.
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>>4369212
>on one hand this only fucks us in the immediate future

The rumours will be brutal and might hurt our house
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>>4369210
yep turns any failure into success

>>4369213
fuck I'm going to regret this but I say do it.
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>>4369213
>>4369215
Thanks for the answer.

>>4369205
>Use Save
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>>4369217
does it negate Double Fail?
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>>4369205
>>Use Save
We flew too close to the sun it was bound to happen.
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>>4369205
>Use Save
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just vote lads this is simply a choice do we give up on our saint hood and try to win the rest or not yes or no is fine both decisions are understandable
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>>4369222
yeah but its not an immediate disaster and we CAN survive the inquiry albeit the odds would not be in our favor.
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>>4369233
we have to get there droping the son of sin pill may save our hides
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>>4369233
0 successes means no inquiry to begin with
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>>4369205
>Use Save
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>>4369233
Double Fail = The Bishop is a political animal, and is far from immune to outside influence.
0 = The Bishop assumes that you are the behind the rumours regarding your ‘divine revelations’ and is certain this is part of some ploy, and that even your more well recorded feats may have been orchestrated. He will shut down the inquiry hearing before it ever occurs and even strip the preliminary awarding of your Recorded Miracle.

There wont be an inquiry. We fucked up big time. It is absolutely an immediate disaster
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>>4369239
Using our save, it gives us one success. So at least there will be an inquiry (that will take years) AND our miracle is still recorded.
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Kniggas, please wait till the adverse re-rolls have been used and ask or discuss among each other before using re-rolls.
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>>4369205
>Use Save
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>>4369241
>>4369237
>>4369239
fuck with that double fail yeah thats bad
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>>4369179
55 dc with our +15 chuch bonus on a reasonable request.
We are not going to have a good time in this arena.
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>>4369248
Yeah, but that means the fun begins now, heh heh.
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>>4369248
yeah we are going to get fucked barring double successes
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>>4369248
yeah big wig wealth + finery is scary for intrigues.
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>>4369205
>>Don't use Save
The Prince is more important imo.
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>>4369251
just means we have to wipe out fuck ton of the black mailed nobles as fuck you the reginate and the faction
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Meh, lack of inquiry is probably for the best
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>>4369254
Yeah, a complete failure or double fail with him will likely be worse. That's why I wanted to see the result of all the interactions before deciding on which interaction do we use it on.
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just be fucking glad we haven't met thorny bois with with that first social reroll trait
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>>4369205
>Don't use Save
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>>4369205
>Use Save

This be why i wanted to limit the number of encounters in this arena
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>>4369267
5 dc wouldn't of saved us honestly avoiding him was the better idea
"the ball room was a mistake" emilie andrie
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>>4369267
Skipping this entire arena out to court more ladies is what we should've done.
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If we roll a critfail in any of the upcoming interactions...
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>>4369271
based and cad pilled
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>>4369272
Can't wait for the critfail with the duke bro
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>>4369272
yep we are dead-dead
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>>4369271
fuck Emille could've been getting Daubneys favor or getting hot'n heavy with Vancewell.
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guess we always have the tobray flagellant mob in our back pocket
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>>4369205
>>Use Save
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>>4369274
>Grabs your codpiece
>nat 100
>kills him via punch
or
>You grab his codpiece
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>existential fear that getting druged and raped is an option
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>>4369283
Emile is strong and huge, but he isn't Hulk. He can't kill someone with just one punch.
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>>4369287
Maybe we would get full plate with plumes out of it as hush money
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>>4369288
>ursen
>"hold my honey"
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>>4369292
Kek yeah URSEN can definitely kill someone with just one punch (or a swipe to be more accurate).
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Anyone else feels like we should buy some Impressive Finery?
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>>4369298
fucken oath
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>>4369298
yes
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>>4369267
The Bishop is one thing, I have no idea why people want to meet the Prince considering the stakes
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>>4369301
we just wanted to get vibe on him really just scouting him out tho with these rolls i fear we are fucked
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>>4369301
I and a few others were voting to meet with the trader from cathagi. The high lords were all on the off limits list.
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>>4369301
I just want to confirm if his bodyguard is a SoS as suspected
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i was honestly surprised our lighting feat could be negated like fuck we have a fuck huge scar
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Really if we want to associate with the high rollers we should consider wealth investment and courtly apparell
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>>4369301
That's the point of such an event, meet important people you don't usually have the opportunity to talk to.
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>>4369205
>Use Save
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SAVE USED
>1 Success: the Bishop believes the story of your pilgrimage vigils and latest trial by lightning, but remains suspicious of the far more unusual claim of divine contact. The question of whether there will be any inquiry into your other claims at all is thrown into doubt by Church bureaucracy, and could take years before you are called to give further evidence, but at least your Recorded Miracle stands.

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Ballroom: Crown Prince Lionel Aubres [Persuade]
> Lower Social Standing / Reasonable Request
> 40DC
> Write in: (Get a read on him) +5DC
> Fashionable Attire +5DC, +1 Re-Roll
> Wealth Status +5DC
> Prince Lionel: Wealth Status -10DC
> Prince Lionel: Fashionable Attire -5DC, +1 Adverse Re-Roll
> Prince Lionel: Impressive Finery (*Master Artist) -5DC, +2 Adverse Re-Rolls
> Prince Lionel: Noble Privilege +1 Adverse Re-Roll
> 35 DC

Double Fail = Lackeys of the Prince may wish to cause you harm in order to please him. Sir Gilbern’s alarm bells are ringing.
0 = You are viewed not just as an obstacle but a potential threat. The Crown Prince’s instincts and information network is terrifying to be the target of. He is intimately aware of your exploits. Impossibly so, in fact. To the point that you suspect there is an informer in your closest circles, how else could he know such things given the lengths you took to prevent discovery of your deeds?
1 = You are viewed as an obstacle, or perhaps an annoyance. The Prince suspects that you have meddled in affairs of the state far more than you’re comfortable admitting, but largely you are beneath his notice in the games of court. For your part, you’re not able to get much of a read on him beyond his attitude towards the Dukes currently present.
2 = Potential tool or ally. Provided that you do not go out of your way to interfere (or perhaps continue to interfere) with his plans, then the Prince’s opinion of you will remain steady. He may offer you favours or assistance in return for your allegiance, if the occasion arises to require it. You are increasingly confident that you can surmise what the Prince’s most immediate goals are, if not the whole why.
3 = The Crown Prince has taken a liking to you. His future kingdom will have need of exemplary knights like you. By coincidence, or by somehow being remarkably well-informed, he offers to put in a good word if you or anyone you recommend wishes to apply for a post in the Roiguard. The Prince is surprisingly open in his discussion with you regarding the state of things and his plans for the future Kingdom.
Double Pass = Recommendation to the Roiguard (strings attached depends on successes). Sir Gilbern’s alarm bells are ringing.


NEW ROLLERS PLEASE. You have ONE re-roll. Your opponent has FOUR adverse re-rolls.

You cannot reason with the Lion if your head is in its mouth!
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Rolled 58 (1d100)

>>4369317
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Rolled 68 (1d100)

>>4369317
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Rolled 51 (1d100)

>>4369317
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Rolled 87 (1d100)

>>4369317
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Rolled 80 (1d100)

>>4369317
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>>4369308
We will probably save face by showing the burns all over our body to prove beyond doubt to Bishop that we received a lightning strike at the lighttower vigil.

>>4369317
>Your opponent has FOUR adverse re-rolls.

Oh my.
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>>4369317
Lmao all those people who voted for the Prince hope you're happy now
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>>4369317
I regret life jesus christ, lets just fuck off to Carthaggi and complete the vigil then come back for some sweet Vancewell booty
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Remember to wait for the adverse rerolls gents.
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>>4369325
I didn't vote but I'm happy prince won
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Holy shit.
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>>4369318
>>4369319
>>4369320
Someone re-roll if you want. It won't really matter anyway.
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>>4369328
there were no succeses bro
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>>4369328
Nigga none of those succeeded
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Rolled 92 (1d100)

>>4369332
fuck it
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I feel like we're swimming in a pool too deep for us.
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>>4369332
inb4 1
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Rolled 2 (1d100)

>>4369317
>>4369320
Well then. Rerolling.
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>35 DC
>4 adverse re-rolls

Pretty much guaranteed failure.
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>>4369317
>1 success
your nothing
>0 successes
YOUR SOUL IS MINE
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>To the point that you suspect there is an informer in your closest circles
>Paranoia intensifies
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>>4369325
well after how we did previously this is a good reality check, hopefully it puts the fear of status, wealth and finery into us.
also it's fun to see just how out of our depths we are.
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>>4369340
kek
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>>4369344
at least we didn't crit or doubles
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>>4369340
too late bro :,(
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Well, at least Emile will have decent assassins at his heels from now on. Be careful what you wish for.

Sad that we can't make a last-minute change and just go after Debauney/Vancewell.
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On a side note this should at least tell Sir Gilbern we're definitely not the Prince's man
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fuck we are gonna need vancewell or we are gonna fucken die
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>>4369340
fuck why did I have to roll first

>>4369345
This is fucking karma for Sir Gilbern I swear
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>>4369354
Frida please protect me uwu
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>>4369352
Can't wait to see what kind of assassins the prince will send on our tracks. I wonder if there is an assassin guild in Canton, something like the Dark Brotherhood.
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>>4369318
>>4369319
>>4369320
>>4369336

>the Prince doesn't even have to flex his adverse rolls

Now that we have gotten past this point, I will admit I did think the inclusion of interacting with the Prince (given all that you suspect) was perhaps unwise. Not out of character at all for Sir Andrei, but still foolhardy.
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>>4369357
Theirs probably an unironic order of knights for that
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so whose the traitor fuck it's white bitch all over again
orin
roussue
dan
or heaven forbid
mikhail
he could of offered him a postion in the roi guard
oh god
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>>4365240
>3 Success: Charming Escort. Your pleasant introduction helps immensely, the Patrikas is becoming a little enamoured with her gallant young escort. She also puts in a good word for you with the Duke. +5DC & +1 Re-Roll in the Duke Pascae interaction

We will have these for the next interaction btw.
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>>4369354
Yeah, that's a fucking miracle we got something as powerful and sneaky as Vancewell on our side before this disaster, at least we're not completely unarmed to face the power of the prince.
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>>4369360
Call it.
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>>4369362
Doesn't have to be a sellout they could potentially have been blackmailed
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>>4369353
Certainly a silver lining. You've moved solidly into his 'third party interest' conspiracy bin.
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>>4369360
>Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
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>>4369361
Remind me that Order of secret assassins-knight in Dark Souls.
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>>4369362
>3 = The Crown Prince has taken a liking to you. His future kingdom will have need of exemplary knights like you. By coincidence, or by somehow being remarkably well-informed, he offers to put in a good word if you or anyone you recommend wishes to apply for a post in the Roiguard. The Prince is surprisingly open in his discussion with you regarding the state of things and his plans for the future Kingdom.

It's Mikhail, fuck
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>>4369365
I can just see it

>Emille rocks up half dead on Hannibal, half his companions dead and half a dozen blades in him.
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>>4369373
Fuck that Tavern waif was a plant wasn't she?!
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>>4369377
they always are
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>>4369360
Let's be real, was it more 'are anons crazy?'
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>>4369373
No way man. Mikahil is loyal to the bitter end and then some. His loyalty status is literally loyal.
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unless it's faction man he could of buttered mikhail up for info
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>>4369373
Before making assumptions, we should wait for the actual update. We can infer who might be a traitor from the knowledge revealed by the Prince.

Or maybe he has spooky Pit magic on his side. In that case, we're fucked.

Also, I'm finally vindicated in my belief that Aubrey's starting bonus was the best one all along.
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Keep in mind that the informer doesn't necessarily have to be one of our companions. It could be someone in our closest circles but isn't a companion. That or we're just paranoid.
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>>4369385
>it was the angel
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>>4369385
I'm surprised people aren't mentioning Sir Norwache
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>>4369360
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>>4369384
>Aubres, the seat of the Royal Court and the centre of power in the realm of Cantôn. The golden meadows of grain and barley are a familiar sight. The wealth of this small realm is evident from the towering gothic architecture to the rich cobbled roads in the countryside. [Kingsman: Ignore inferior social standing penalties during Persuade and Courtship rolls]

Fuck me if you aren't right
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>>4369384
The Prince using Pit magic could actually be possible considering his involvement in the Sons of Sin.

>>4369387
Kek now THAT is an unexpected twist.

>>4369388
It could be, but we don't really know. Honestly, we should wait until the update because we have no clues to go on right now.
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>>4369388
They may have forgot. He's my first just on a dry read. An unknown with previous ties who's more clever than he lets on.
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>>4369391
gabe had that
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>>4369388
>nobody suspects the person literately part of the princes faction
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>>4369394
not entirely unknow it's all but confirmed he was the fleeing faction knight we met in the ruins
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>>4369390
I love this!
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>>4369401
it all depends on how much info he has if he has shit all the way back to the creeping horror then he's fucking dark mage that sacrfices childern for seer sight
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>>4369390
Fuck me here it is without better cropped
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>>4369387
damn, what if the angel is actually more like the primal snakes in Dark souls and he's actually a big player who communicate with several people, manipulating them
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>>4369409
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>>4369394

He was also the Faction knight we met in the ruins, and seemingly has knowledge of House Alderauge's code too.

Given the message he gave us in Fallavon in thread 21
>“My apologies for my part in this… incident. I had not expected it to escalate as it did. The lone Pegasus sees comfort in the strength of the east maiden’s garden.” Sir Heinrich Norwache regards you with something approaching awe. “I thought you a goner for sure. How did you get out of there alive, freund?”
I take it to mean that he is fleeing to Romaine. One of the two prominent Romaine crests is a weeping maiden, and the current ruler is a Duchess. In addition Montbrun's crests include pegasi, so it's a logical leap that even if it's not himself that he's referring too, one of them may be trying to escape the Faction to Romaine.
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>>4369401
Unknown enough. Depending on what the Prince lets on, we can probably remove a few people as far as long shots, calling mine now,
>it turns out to be Father Tonbray

>>4369357
For the past three years, young knights errant have left Fallavon to find their way in the world. Only a few have returned, many finding their untimely end in Cathago of all places.
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I'll be back in 5 min
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Just read up. Ah well, at least we still have our lives. Now we know not to mess with the prince.
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>>4369360

This actually kind of forces us to stay in Cathagi for a while since it takes the heat off of us. Given what the Prince knows, a couple years abroad takes us off the game board for a while.
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>>4369433
not really it just means staying the fuck off his radar for the forseeable future
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>>4369433
Not like we just find out that one of the factions has deep connection to Cathagi or something.

So yeah thinking we are save in Cathagi from his influence is completely reasonable thing to do...
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>>4369433
He's hiring Cathagi on the regular. Even if you're right, there's nothing to stop him from going against the house.
Better to provide a big target in that case.
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keep in mind we pretty much may have to give up Vancewell if we join the DG the marquis sure as hell isn't going to wait for us to finish the three year contract to court her.
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>0 Success: You are viewed not just as an obstacle but a potential threat. The Crown Prince’s instincts and information network is terrifying to be the target of. He is intimately aware of your exploits. Impossibly so, in fact. To the point that you suspect there is an informer in your closest circles, how else could he know such things given the lengths you took to prevent discovery of your deeds?

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Ballroom: Duke Leonardo Pascae [Persuade]
> Lower Social Standing / Reasonable Request
> 40DC
> No Write in +0DC
> Fashionable Attire +5DC, +1 Re-Roll
> Wealth Status +5DC
> Fine Dance Partner +5DC Hah gaaaay!
> Charming Escort +5DC, +1 Re-Roll
> Duke Pascae: Wealth Status -10DC
> Duke Pascae: Fashionable Attire -5DC, +1 Adverse Re-Roll
> Duke Pascae: Impressive Finery -5DC, +1 Adverse Re-Rolls
> 40 DC

Double Fail = You’re not sure how to handle the Duke’s personal proposition. Sir Gilbern’s alarm bells are ringing.
0 = You manage to sour what little goodwill you had built up from your earlier introduction of the Patrikas. The mercurial Duke switches his opinion of you from darling to bore, and you have no impression of what his opinion is on the Duke and Prince’s presence here.
1 = The Duke is disappointed that you are not a bottomless pool of charm and humour, but a pretty face in tight leggings is not objectionable either. You gain little useful knowledge regarding the presence of other major players, forming the opinion that the foppish Duke may not be a consummate political player.
2 = You reaffirm your initial good impression, and many take note of the good graces the Duke holds you in. You determine what the other major players are after here, but not whether the Duke Pascae will oblige them.
3 = Duke Leonardo Pascae is absolutely delighted with you. Furthermore, the Duke’s foppish appearance and effeminate behaviour belies a cunning you hadn’t expected. He indulges you with his personal take on what is going on behind the scenes of these power plays.
Double Pass = You had not expected your dance moves to be appreciated so much by another man. Sir Gilbern’s alarm bells are ringing.


NEW ROLLERS PLEASE. 3 rolls of 1d100, you fabulous darlings. You have TWO re-rolls. Your opponent has TWO adverse re-rolls.

Darling Bear, yoohoo!
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Now that the Crown Prince of Canton (and the leader of the Faction) considers Emile to be not just an annoyance but a potential threat, the only ones who could give us protection are:
>1) The Queen
>2) The Duchess of Romaine
>3) The Dragon

We're not just a curious third-party anymore.
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Rolled 7 (1d100)

>>4369461
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Rolled 67 (1d100)

>>4369461
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Rolled 2 (1d100)

>>4369461
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>>4369466
>>4369469
nice!
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Rolled 98 (1d100)

>>4369466
Using the Duke's first Adverse re-roll to counter this result
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Rolled 3 (1d100)

>>4369469
Using the Duke's second adverse re-roll to counter this result
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wait for the second adverse
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>>4369471
>>4369473
>>4369469
>>4369467
>>4369466

2 successes here isn't too bad. I don't really want to re-roll, because there's a risk of sinking it if I fuck it up. Thoughts?
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re-roll guys
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>>4369478
Re-roll dude, you have 2 of them
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One assured success, two possible re-rolls.

As the one who who rolled a nat 100 for Gabriel, I will *not* roll this shit.

> Sir Gilbern’s alarm bells are ringing.
This is going to be a meme, isn't it?
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Rolled 3 (1d100)

>>4369467
re-rolling
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>>4369478
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we have only 1 success, Forgotten transformed one of our two successes into a failure.
We should re-roll both failures.
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Rolled 61 (1d100)

>>4369471

Whoops, mis-read it. We're at 1 success. Here goes.
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>two passes
>both 3s
Oh god Emile's getting propositioned anyway for a threeway
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>>4369466
>>4369469
>>4369483
Fine damn rolling gents! We got 2 success.
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>>4369478
40 DC is pretty low...

I’d try at least 1 re-roll
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well, two successes with the duke is not bad at all.
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>>4369483
>>4369473
Well well, 2 successes and a double 3. Nice job.

I wonder if we can get some additional shinies from this.
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Is there anyone else to talk to in this area or is it all?
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Im going to take what we can take at this point
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Phew.

>>4369496
All that is left now is the interaction with Lord Gilbern's Counter-Intrigue ploy.

Good luck kniggas. May the Almighty be with you.
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>>4369496
counter intrigue from Gil's father.
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>>4369496

We've got the counter-intrigue left with Lord Gilbern, and then it's the write-ups.
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>>4369499
>>4369501
>>4369502
oof

DC 10 in coming
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>>4369503
Oh, perhaps I'm confusing sir Gilbern with lord Gilbern, are we talking about the father of the queen's herald?
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>>4369506
yes
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>2 Success: You reaffirm your initial good impression, and many take note of the good graces the Duke holds you in. You determine what the other major players are after here, but not whether the Duke Pascae will oblige them.

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Ballroom: Lord Caspian Gilbern [Counter-Intrigue]
> Inferior Social Standing / Complicated Ploy (undermine investigation)
> 40DC
> Damning Evidence (Ledger) +20DC
> Lowborn witnesses (The Hole ‘stock’) +4DC
> Lowborn witness (Jimmy the Lie) +2DC
> Animal Companion (Dame Stoutsworth) +1 Counter-Intrigue Re-Roll
> Lord Gilbern: Cloak and Daggers -5DC to Intrigue, +1 Adverse Intrigue Re-Roll
> Lord Gilbern: Forged Paperwork -10DC, +1 Adverse Intrigue Re-Roll
> 51DC

Double Fail = Slapped with a fine. Sir Andrei was not technically a Praetor at the relevant time, and so was in breach of Port Bounty by-laws.
0 = Unauthorised investigation. Lord Gilbern will be able to use this manuever to muddy the waters or even turn it to his advantage. He can use this as a pretence to take the investigation out of the Ordo Praetors hands. This is obviously an internal Duchy matter, after all. You will need to make your move quickly if you wish to act on what you have so far found.
1 = Whitewash. Lord Gilbern has a better idea of who is threatened by the airing of the city’s dirty laundry. He can use this information to decide who to cover, who to lean on and who to leave out high and dry. He will challenge the Praetors for control of the investigation, and will have -some- influence on how it unfolds.
2 = Cleaning House. Lord Gilbern might be able to cover his own immediate support bases but he has no grounds, in the court of public opinion, to attempt to wrest control of the investigation away from the Praetors. The investigation will continue unimpeded.
3 = Drain the swamp. Lord Gilbern’s house of cards is about collapse entirely, the investigation regarding the ledger is going to completely upend the careful balance of favours and blackmail he has so carefully nurtured. And there is nothing he can do about it.
Double Pass = Family affairs. Sir Gilbern’s alarm bells are still ringing. But he enjoyed watching this.


NEW ROLLERS PLEASE. 3 rolls of 1d100, detectives. You have ONE re-roll. Your opponent has TWO adverse re-rolls.

Sir Emile Andrei? A word, if I may…
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Rolled 46 (1d100)

>>4369519
gg
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>>4369519
ahh called it he was involved in the shit
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Rolled 86 (1d100)

>>4369519
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Rolled 62 (1d100)

>>4369519
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Rolled 43 (1d100)

>>4369520
Using Lord Gilbern's first adverse re-roll to counter this
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I don't know if I should be happy or sad that my id changed
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>>4369523
>>4369525
reroll one of you pls
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Rolled 5 (1d100)

>>4369520
>>4369526
Using Lord Gilbern's second adverse re-roll to attempt another counter of this result
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Rolled 44 (1d100)

>>4369523
Rerollan
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>>4369531
You beautiful motherfucker
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>>4369531
>>4369530
GOOD JOB(S)
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>>4369525
>>4369527
Sorry mate, this is not counted. You can roll again if you link back to an earlier vote in the same post.
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>>4369530
>>4369531
He just played himself.
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>>4369531
>>4369530
>>4369526
>>4369520
Fan-fucking-tastic boys.
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>>4369534
So we still have one roll left to make?
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>>4369531
>Double Pass = Family affairs. Sir Gilbern’s alarm bells are still ringing. But he enjoyed watching this

Aww yes thank you anon.
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>>4369526
>>4369530
>>4369520
>>4369531
>Can't do politics
>Can dispense justice

Emille andrei motherfuckers
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nice boys
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I still need one more roll. So far, you're doing pretty damn well.
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>>4369420

Skimming through, one thing that popped out to me in thread #16 and seeing all the mounds of tinfoil crinkling away. We never really did find out how Craig of Lowgrove ended. He was taken away by the Golden Sun mercs, but we aren't sure if he lived or died. He did know what we were there for (Our brother), and had enough of our tidings due to being in the group of us, dan Marc, and Mikhail in the woods. He's almost certainly dead, but given that he was a craven POS, he almost certainly gave up everything he knew under the question. Even if he didn't hear everything, he certainly heard enough that an intelligent group with more info that we don't know can start forming hats of their own.

>>4369531

Noice.
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Rolled 18 (1d100)

>>4369519
I hope this works.
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Rolled 85 (1d100)

>>4369283
me
>>4369534
Like this
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>>4369540
We were born to be a praetor
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Rolled 85 (1d100)

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>>4369548
Awww yessssss

Bringing down a motherfucking criminal mastermind lads
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>>4369548
AHHHHHHHH you fucking mad lad
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Holy shit we're destroying the Gilberns tonight
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>>4369548
>3 successes

few
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>>4369550
hell yeah we were
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>>4369548
>>4369531
>>4369530

Noice.
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>>4369554
Absolute mad lad!!

Huge ladies man too it seems, haha
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Can't wait for Ser Robert's reactions to, everything.

>>4369547
We'll be able to tell a lot by what the Prince lets on. There are very few people who know the full picture, if any, so it could lead to us speculating some real fae shit going on. Or worse.
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>>4369548
Il link back to my last stuff couse phone posting and shit

>>4368344
This is me and the link jere shpuld go to my last stuff.
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>>4369548
>>4369531
>>4369530
>>4369526
>>4369523
>>4369520
>3 Success: Drain the swamp. Lord Gilbern’s house of cards is about collapse entirely, the investigation regarding the ledger is going to completely upend the careful balance of favours and blackmail he has so carefully nurtured. And there is nothing he can do about it.
>Double Pass: Family affairs. Sir Gilbern’s alarm bells are still ringing. But he enjoyed watching this.

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That's all for tonight folks, I'll try and write up a content update tomorrow or the day after at the latest.

I hope the Duke's Ball has lived up to the hype and that you guys have enjoyed the ups and downs of the whole ride. Aside from a few missteps, you've done alright. This is the kind of battlefield our social-knight Sir Gabriel Rousseau would have excelled in, but aside from a few missteps you Sir Andrei has done alright. And even aided in ensuring his sister's plan was a resounding success. Hope it was worth the target on your back.


>Player question
Was this fun or needlessly complex?

I think people enjoyed the spaced out rolls and different take to previous large social interactions, but this major social event over a single night took up pretty much the whole thread. Not to mention the voting in the last thread.
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>>4369555
Hopefully this is good enough to mend fences with Sir Gilbern. Also if Daddy Gilbern is forced to retire in disgrace you could say Sir Robert stands to gain a lot of control over the House even as the black sheep....
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>>4369569
>Player question
Was this fun or needlessly complex?

Fucking fun. If it were every day maybe not but its a big rare event so it was a refreshing change of pace. I look forward to the next one but I also look forward to our regularly scheduled mayhem. I enjoyed it a lot, the insane highs and the bottomless lows
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>Was this fun or needlessly complex?

That was awesome. That's the kind of big event I'd like to see from time to time, even if it takes an entire thread. Not too often of course but this can mark big steps in the campaign.
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>dance with the princess
>get Vancewell
>protec Daubneys smile
>get Lazars location
>foil Lord Gilbern
>Damien & Rose gets on the Rabetrain

all our failures considered Im pretty fucking okay with how things turned out, sure it could have been better but we've survived it and even prospered a little.

>>4369569
Thank you for running Forgotten it's been a blast we've had a wild party.

>Was this needlessly complex

nah just a tad repetitive but given how its built thats expected anything else is either us not having enough rerolls or a plan to maximise our chances.

will Vancewells favor be lewd?
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>>4369569
>>Player question
>Was this fun or needlessly complex?
Fun but definitely something to be done on special occasions.
Hopefully the thing with the Prince will serve as a lesson. Also still salty about the initial roll with Sir Robert but hopefully we can fix our friendship before we ship out for Cathagi.
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>>4369569
actually my only critique is a inability to compensate for failure/disaster between phases which I feel we should at least be able to change minorly.
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>>4369569
>Player question
I had a blast. I think that it flowed really well. Only negative is that the huge list and sorting out our interactions in advance is intimidating, but it's the price of meaningful player choice i suppose.
I wasn't caught up during the fea feast but this seemed a much better system.
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>>4369584
Personally I'm fine with it, the DCs were high enough to give us a lot of chances to get successes. If in addition to that we had the ability to compensate for failures the quest would be damn too easy and there would be no challenge.

All the fun comes from the potential disasters.
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>>4369569

>Player question
>Was this fun or needlessly complex?

Honestly, I found it complex as hell, but it IS a major social event attended by some of the most important people in the kingdom. If it WASN'T complicated as a clockwork sexbot, it would be a bit underwhelming. I'm more stoked that we didn't shit the bed horribly, found out tonnes about all the political skulduggery that was threatening us for a while, and now we have additional reasons for taking some time out in Cathagi for the last few kniggas sitting on the fence. Debating with my myself if we should probably swear a Vow to return back to Lady Daubeny with her favour in hand, covered in glory serving in the Dragonguard, but not 100% there yet.

Regardless, it was a fucking blast, and waiting expectantly for the write-ups and our next steps we take.
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>>4369569
When are we getting Vancewell's booty
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>>4369587
I'm not really complaining about the DC's but if we'd majorly screwed up to the point of endangering say Ros's ploy to reintroduce Damien to polite society I think our priorities would have changed to damage control.

It's more about compensating for massive failure that puts things at risk in a spot but really thats just my opinion, the definite lesson to be taken from this ball is to not try to engage people unless they are only a tier higher on the wealth scale and are not known intrigue operators.
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>>4369593
Im betting tommorow or the day after, speaking of we should really try and advance as far as possible before we leave for Carthaggi
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>>4369569
>Was this fun or needlessly complex?

It was most certainly fun I say.

Cheers Forgotten and see you tomorrow. Have a good night.
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>>4369594
I get what you mean but if we went by stages voting would have taken forever to resolve
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>>4369600
yeah it obviously shouldn't run by stages but a quick sign off if something serious comes up like learning off a plot or massive failure, otherwise buisness as usual.
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>>4369569
I think this was great fun, it just sucks that our dice rolls weren't great for some important things.

Also, do we actually still have the inquiry tomorrow considering our 1 success with the bishop?
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>>4369613
I believe its still on but we'll be under a lot of scrutiny and its probably going to be bounced around for a while before it deemed official or not
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>>4369613
>Also, do we actually still have the inquiry tomorrow considering our 1 success with the bishop?

>1 = The Bishop believes the story of your pilgrimage vigils and latest trial by lightning, but remains suspicious of the far more unusual claim of divine contact. The question of whether there will be any inquiry into your other claims at all is thrown into doubt by Church bureaucracy, and could take years before you are called to give further evidence, but at least your Recorded Miracle stands.
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>>4369569
I loved it. This shit is amazing.

Im just a little salty it didnt go better with gilbern and the bishop but thats how the dice rolls.

Also that crit was amazing and i loved your writing of the dancefloof. Cant wait for this final sequence.
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>>4369615
I read that yeah, but since the Bishop and Heralds of the Reginate already came to town, it seems counter productive to not have something occur now that they are here.
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>>4369615
Maybe we should have kept that double fail, considering how things with his brother turned out.
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>>4369619
That's good point. I think there might be an inquiry but who knows.

>>4369620
That would've meant losing the +15DC Recorded Miracle and 9 double bonuses.
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We should've used the save against the prince. The inquiry isn't that important.
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>>4369628
It's massively important and probably would have led to a lot of political fallout if he openly accused us of being a fake
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>>4369626
probably just the +15DC not the 9 double bonus, the double seems more in line with something like Faekissed as in its somewhat magical/mysterious and not a manmade bonus
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>>4369628
>>4369629
They were both pretty damn important but whats done is done and we'll have to deal with it.
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>>4369569 This is my first Sworn to Valor thread I've caught in-progress, and this is a hell of a lot of fun to see, both the ups and the downs. Very much liked it, even with the complexity.
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>>4369631
True
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I just realized that this roll>>4369520 would've been a fail if we didn't have both the children from the Hole and Jimmy the Lie as witnesses.

>51DC
>Lowborn witnesses (The Hole ‘stock’) +4DC
>Lowborn witness (Jimmy the Lie) +2DC
51DC - 6DC = 45DC

Looks they're all going to stand as witnesses and aid the Praetors in their investigations now that we got 3 success.
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>>4369569
>fun
and
>painful
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>>4369626
In any case, I hope we get some good DC bonuses from our own piousness and revealing we literally kicked the shit out Anarchy and helped seal him.
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>>4369643
I hope we get to read Lord Kasper Alexandi the Third Herald's reaction when he learns of that.
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>>4369569
>Was this fun or needlessly complex?
The session itself was crazy fun as always.

Personally I think that we should have voted for each scene separately. Easier for players to vote and rolls can lead to results which change plans at the last moment.

Other than that, everything was fine.
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>>4369646
>Robert please, I know you're worried about tht Andrei fellow. I'll keep an eye on him my friend, if only so you finally get some sleep. Look, you need some rest, take some time off, I'll sit in for you at his hearing. Leave the room with the corkboards and string for at least one night, I'll get to the bottom of this.
>Two days later, after the inquiry.
> Reginae wept. Robert, you were right. This knigga was the one I told you about who jumped onto Anarchy in the ruins. I'll put the khave on brew, you fetch the good brandy, we've got work to do.
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We'll escort the Patrikas Ianthe back to her villa after the Duke's Ball is over. Our duty as her bodyguard isn't over till then.

>>4369655
Nice.
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I wonder if we can engage in a vicious weekend of sex with lady vancewell?
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>>4369697
Forgotten DID say "Late night booty calls".
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>>4369717
Who exactly is doing the booty call is of course, up for debate.

Especially with Sir Emile “Canton’s Ass” Andrei.
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>>4369719
>That's Canton's ass

a good question is who intitates Vancewell or Emille?
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>>4369728
Vancewell for sure. Emiles a bit too much of a pussy. Vancewell is all power
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>>4369732
I dunno depending on the strength of the attraction he could be compelled too I guess but she is a very compelling woman

maybe they both do?
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>>4369569
We are justice incarnate. Come way may, as long as our actions are done with good in mind, we need not fear the storm.
>Proverbs 28:1 – “The wicked flee when no one pursues, but the righteous are bold as a lion."
>Player question
It's amazing seeing the interaction unfold! I especially enjoy how you incorporate the rerolls and the doubles - amazing writing as always Forgotten! (I make sure to vote for every thread on the archive to show my appreciation :) )
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>Emile gets ripped apart by the Prince promising death and destruction on future interference
>Emile immediately proceeds to pull the stick out of Lord Gilbern's ass and beat him with it
I hope they're in cahoots, I really do.
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>>4369763
>Prince: "I nead to kill him before he spoil more of our plots!"
>spoils more plots
-_-
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>>4369814
Yeeeeeeaaaaaah Cathagi is looking better by the moment.

Makes the previous failure tie in really well with the plot. Like, regardless of if Emile was intentionally opposing him or not there's no way he wouldn't want to remove him as a variable.

I hope we get a storm related nickname in Pascae for the lightning plus all the chaos 2e brought.
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>>4369569
>>4369752
This is me
Forgotten, would it be at all possible to somehow make Lord Gilbern at our mercy too? Something like:
"I cannot promise a full pardon from the Paetor, but I will inform him of your compliance in our investigation - ''if'' - you comply."
I understand that the rolls have already been called, but since it's already a 3x success and a double pass, maybe it would be okay to squeeze this in as well?
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>>4370142
. . . Why?

It doesn't sound like he'll be on the list at all, nor will he be implicated from how I'm reading it.

His problem is that he has all this dirt on people and favours owed, and now they're going to be replaced with people he doesn't have any or as much leverage on. His problem is the weakening of his political position.

If we wanted to do anything with him, it would be better to introduce him to people we know who could help stabilize his political power.

Maybe he could reach out to his Son and reconnect with him. Switch sides, as it were. Maybe he could connect with our seafaring side of the family. Maybe Patrikas can help him out. Maybe he could hook up with those canal building dudes, we could mention that they're making a shit ton of money and that there's an in with the engineers sister. If he helps nurture her, then he'll be able to maybe have a say in how that goes.

We aren't on his level for our opinion of him to matter, though.
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>>4369463
This also gets me thinking, since it is super difficult to get the attention of any of these three, I think the most protection we can hope to get for our family in short notice against the Prince is to hook Roselyn up with Sir Gilbern. It'll make the Andrei's a harder nut to crack with the Second Herald courting our sister. I feel like I'm repeating myself a bit, but now there an even greater political reason to make this happen now.
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>>4370262
He probs isnt on the list but him both knowing about the people on the list and chosing not to bring them to justice is bad enguh to get pulled in, as im sure a few people on the list will be talking about who had blackmail on them which means his name is going to come up alot.

But i dont think we should try to pull anything other then be happy how his house of cards is burning down, trying to make him do anything is going to end bad.
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>>4370142
This is me
>>4370262
>>4370306
Sorry guys, just power gaming a bit
We already flew too close to the sun and got scorched - if my suggestion would damn us further then I will retract it
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I think we did pretty well but we could have done somethings better. Overall we can learn a lot from this.

Lord Jeremiah de Broulert
Perfectly reasonable attend with good chance of success. The dice we unfortunately against us. As for how we could have done better, perhaps we should have attended Wavell interaction before approaching de Broulert. Our failure here made the next interection harder by -5DC.

Sir Robert Gilbern
Excellent preparation and write-in and avoiding the topic of his family was pretty wise. That -5 cost us 1 success in the initial rolls, in the end it was bad luck with the dice that gave us 0 success.

Sir Bartholomew Wavell
Nicely done, with just a minor misfortune of that negative double. In retrospect I think this could have been a better first interaction, with the addition of soliciting information on the players of the Pascae court to help ease other interactions.


Captain Torres
Perfectly done with the write-ins and the previous interaction with Sir Wavell. We handsomely outmaneuver the captain and ensure another breakthrough in the investigation.

The Patrikas Ianthe
Same as above, with the benefit to the Duck’s interaction. We should follow this later by asking Ianthe for advise and lesson on Cathagi etiquette and courtly matters.

Lady Brunhilde
Easy and simple enough but I think it will be must rewarding in the future.

Counter-intrigue Marco Hewitt
Easy enough success with our rolls but we also had the benefit of our earlier interaction with Captain Torres for a +10 on the DC and taking the On guard bonus.

Here we decided to take the +5DC bonus on the dance floor that grant us later a success with the princess.

Mademoiselle Josephine
Excellent success, choosing Josephine as our first interaction and the 3 successes gain us an addition +5 on the interactions that follow on the dance floor which came to play right after.

Antoinette Aubres
Could have go really bad for us but we persevere through good decisions and stacking bonuses as mention above. If anything this interaction teaches us the important of Impressive Finery, which would have gotten us another renewable re-roll and maybe a third success.

Lady Frida Vancewell
I think this is a great example of a good risk to take for an excellent reward, the DC was in our favor and she lacked the re-rolls to counter ours. Even ignoring the critical, 3 successes would have net us information, her favor and negating her own intrigue.

1/2
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Bishop Dominus Gilbern
Good preparation, bad luck with dice. Just underlines the importance of re-rolls. Glad we save that one time save for this interaction.

The Crown Prince Lionel
We were completely outclassed here. And while the rewards were sort of tempting, I think the risks and difficulty were too great to make it worth the try. It would have been better to avoid him. And If we were looking for information Sir Norwache would have been a more approachable source with lesser consequences for failure or only taking 2 interactions for the bonus.

Duke Leonardo
I think our only mistake here was not having an appropriate write-in and not asking Sir Bartholomew Wavell for information on the player of the Pascae court.

Lord Caspian Gilbern
Luck was on our side but with a 51DC it could have gone either way easy enough. I´m beating a dead horse at this point but impressive finery and tips from Sir Wavel would have grant us a safety net.

Overall, I think what we can learn about this is.
1) Write-ins are essential for success
2) Gather bonuses early from easier interactions to later hit the more difficult ones
3) We need more re-rolls to take on the big players.
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>>4370306
> but him both knowing about the people on the list and chosing not to bring them to justice is bad enguh to get pulled in

If you read the roll outcomes, you'll see that 1 success was him having a better idea of who is threatened by the letters, and 2 successes was him only covering his support base.

He doesn't know exactly who was involved, in what, to what degree. The ledger contained info on more than just the murders.

His problem is that all that info is coming out now, so not only can he not use it to take out his opponents but he can't protect his owm supporters who are implicated.

He wasn't protecting them from these activities explicitly, nor was this the blackmail he had on them. However, people he did have blackmail on, people who owed him favours, etc. who are on the list are going to go down along with his political enemies - some of whom he could have used the ledger to force to support him.

I highly doubt he's even going to be publicly suffer harm to his reputation, because it's not like he was expected to know about what was happening in the ledger. If he comes down hard on everyone, including his allies, then he could even be praised for his impartiality and justness. In fact, it sounds like he's gonna be forced to do so.

Anyways, I agree that we don't really have the standing to negotiate anything with him, much less threaten to try and implicate him in the ledger business.

>>4370329
>>4370306
I mean, it would be a perfect time to offer him some sort of alliance or support that could help stabilize his position. But we don't really have any of that ourselves. House Andrei is fairly small and irrelevant, our allies Rabe in Montbrun are as well.

We might be able to offer to make overtures towards House Vidras on behalf of our friendship with his son Sir Gilbern, they're a naval trading block so they probably have influence in Pascae. What with our family ties and having avenged their fallen Knight in our duel against de Broulet we probs have some capital with them. They'll likely wish to see if they can benefit from our Dragonguard potential as well, in the Pascae/Cathagi/Vidras sea shipping route.

Alternatively we could bring up that it is a good time to reconcile with his son Sir Gilbern. Family is family, after all, and while they may disagree on how to go about things this could be a good opportunity for them have a clean slate as it were. While Gilbern may not have approved of how his father did things, stability is still important. It doesn't do anyone any good if the outcome of this is a chaotic struggle for power now that Lord Gilberns position is weaker. Sir G could get allies to support Lord G who would at the same time be able to restrain him from engaging in the tactics that Sir G disliked.

I like the idea of suggesting he seeks reconciliation and support from his son. Partially because it seems like a genuinely good thing to do, partly because of Sir G's face if it works.
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>>4370405
Good analysis
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>>4370397
>>4370405
I dig the breakdown my guy, might need to add it to the pastebin!
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>>4370397
I agree with your analysis.

I think the solution, although it will slow things down, would be to vote on separate portions of events first instead of voting for all interactions at once. That way we can actually plan out a consistent approach.

Alternatively have people come up with full plans, and then vote for an entire plan instead of individuals. Maybe have it start with a vote for what goal(s) we want to achieve during social encounters, and then a vote for who to talk to in order to achieve the goals.

I'm just spitballing here.
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>>4370405
>The Crown Prince Lionel
>We were completely outclassed here. And while the rewards were sort of tempting, I think the risks and difficulty were too great to make it worth the try. It would have been better to avoid him. And If we were looking for information Sir Norwache would have been a more approachable source with lesser consequences for failure or only taking 2 interactions for the bonus.

Yea. Was never a fan of approaching the big players beyond the Bishop himself. We're currently actually ok for intrigue but we're gonna need more rerolls for actual persuasion.
Got the old aubrey market chart here. We could either get the impressive finery or get an upgraded fashionable attire.
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>>4370543
I'm thinking impressive finery, since I think we will need buy another fashionable attire for the Cathagi fashions as oppose to those of Cantôn. Patrikas Ianthe Fashionable Attire bonus here >>4364979 indicates that the style matters.
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>>4370565
Honestly... it looks like a style choice. You'll notice that our bonus is effectively the same as hers. Just the dress. And if we do take up a position as Dragonroi, I dont think we will be expected to dress to Cathagi norms as we're effectively a foreign mercenary.
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>>4370565
I wonder if there is something that would be considered Fashionable Attire here, but Impressive Finery in Cathag due to the cost of importing it.

Like, if Patrikas could maybe help us pick out something here where it would be cheaper, but impressive once we crossed the ocean.
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>>4370578
Is this going to be a shopping eps woth her after she has her way with us.

Or one with lady vancewell afther that late night booty call she takes us out shoping.

I dont think the style really matters just as long as its super fancy, i would rather we get something in our lands style as we going to be coming back home at some point.
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WRT the spy. Theres only realistically 2 people who know or might have pieced together what we have done.

Our new companion Sir Heinrich Norwache or Sister Superior Ignatus.

Our new knightly companion has had the opportunity to match our identity to the one in the castle and may have reported it as such to the underlings of the Prince. And our squire has had the week in the caravan where he was cooed over by the sisters from whom they could have slowly teased out little tidbits of what we actually did in the forest since hes unused to such attentions. Our other companions as spies basically requires such a great deal of foresight as to be nigh omnipotent; like why would he have a slightly slow peasant as a spy on the offchance he becomes a squire for the brother of a heir of a local barony whos only involvement in the conspiracy was to take a ill-timed camping break with montbrun miners? No, its more likely a spy network which leverages the to-and-fro of pilgrims and priests across the land travel and gather information from the ground. Well. That or a sworn man to the conspiracy who has already figured out our identity and reported it as such.

Very strangely, the 0 success with the prince actually is not too great a failure. Looking over the possible outcomes, theres in none in which he does not already knows what is going on. Merely whether he wants to act on it. That we are about to leave to continue our pilgrimage will helpfully take us out of his major sphere of influence for some time.

In any case, staying for too long in the city after tonight will progressively be detrimental to our health and we should quickly settle plans to move on with the rest of the pilgrims.
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Reading previous threads for the pastbin I found this little gem.

>“Certainly my sister has done me no favours when she’s running the show…” Karlaus grumbles, indicating for the nearby manservant to bring another decanter of the strong stuff. “Imagine being the poor sod who had to marry her.”
>“I can imagine worse, like that viper Lady Vancewell. Brrr.”

Now that's foreshadowing.
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>>4370648
I think we should wait until we see the write-up, and just what he knows.

Norwache is quite recent, so it's unlikely he's the spy.

Sister Ignatus hasn't been AS close to us.

Craig Lowell was recommended by Father Towbray, though.
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>>4370719
>The new addition to Father Towbray’s followers comes highly recommended by the priest. The pastor may put more emphasis on the man’s zeal than his pathfinding skills, but the man has indicated an interest in seeking your employ as a permanent archer if you should find him employable. [Hire Craig of Lowgrove]

Towbray also gave us a penance that could kill us, as well as a penance that would make us . . . Unpalatable, without finery etc making it difficult for us to negotiate with other nobility.

He's our confessor. We haven't hidden much if anything from him.

Spreading rumors of the Angel was also his work, and it's not like that's actually good for us.
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>>4370719
>Craig Lowell was recommended by Father Towbray, though.
He never ask us what happen to him and he is originally from Montbrun. I don't like where this train of thought is going since as our confessor he is the best position to collect information without suspicion. Fuck.
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>>4370738
>>4370734
Welcome aboard the same train of thought.. I saved you some seats
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>>4370719
>>4370734
Father Towbray wears his heart on the sleeve far too much and is too trusting and emotional to be a likely good candidate for a spy. I expect he would be outraged if someone asked him to do so. Hes wont to smash a heretics brain rather than spy on them. I daresay his reaction to a SoS would be to charge at it in rage.
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>>4370745
Forgot to add.

In any case I do agree on wanting to see what he says. I think I missed it after including it in an initial draft of my thoughts.
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>>4370745
I mean, yeah that's how a spy would act. Father Towbray is also uncompromising in following his ideals, so he would be willing to pass information along about us. Especially if we had a brother suspected of treasonous collusion with Jays. The harsh penances could have been to test us, to see if we really were doing what we felt was right, or if we were just using righteousness as an excuse.

If he is the spy, however, it's possible we've won him over at this point. After all, his zealotry doesn't seem to be faked. It would definitely make him more sympathetic to the Prince's faction.

He might also not be affiliated directly with the Prince, either. He might be instead observing us for a faction within the Church, who in turn is working with the Prince's faction.

I will recant tbe Angel news, as that happened after our discussion with the Monsignor. Although . . . Father Towbray was with us then.

He also advised us to lie in the inquiry when questioned about the angel.

He also knew about The Hole, and was involved in the fighting.

He's also been surprisingly cool about the whole Angel thing, despite it being arguably quite heretical. For such a zealous man, if he's cool with that maybe he's cool with resurrecting the Sons of Sin.
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>>4370758
I wonder if the priest we are looking relating to the murders and the excavation on Fallavon is also a Reclamaint priest...like Father Towbray.
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>>4370758
That doesnt make sense. A zealot, like how Forgotten has put in with the potential changes to Emile's demeanor back when we were shown the heretical passages, is more wont to deny its existence and more strongly reaffirm the orthodox church teachings. Why would a zealot of the faith, of cain want to support heretical practices? I would feel his support would more swing towards those of the Reginae. To put down and bury deep the presence of such heresies.

>He also advised us to lie in the inquiry when questioned about the angel.

Also this is an outright lie on your part.

>“Yes. Yes, it is a possibility. You must understand that the Church is a holy institution. A holy insititution, yes. But an organisation of men nonetheless. Any such organisation of man is prone to weakness, hesitation. Corruption even. I fear they are not listen to your testimony without hearing it, if you understand. They are not ready for a revelation of this magnitude. Not since Night of Three Sisters has there been a public acknowledgement of direct communion with the Divine.” Father Towbray hesitates, clearly uncomfortable to be wrestling with his own quandry in front of his charge. “If they censure you and you then speak of any of it, true or false you will condemn yourself. But if word were to get out beforehand… if someone, other than yourself…”

His intention was to spread the word of the angel before hand so that the church could not hide such a truth and he immediately recanted that after he realised what he was asking of us. His temperment is supremely ill-suited to be that of a spy and if he really is one, hes a master of acting.
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>>4370777
I think the lighting strike and our angel might have turn him to our side. Still we should ask him how he came to recommend Craig of Lowgrove before we accuse him of anything.
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>>4370777
Rather than a spy, hes probably more “a useful fool”.

One whos too trusting and willing to divulge information too easily after some talking.
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Dragon guard means practically giving up on Vancewell
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>>4370795
Nah she's clever, if we continue to woo her she might decide its in her best interests to sabotage any pairing her father makes until we get home. Its only 3 years
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>>4370795
It also means staying out of the Prince sight long enough for him to forget or stop caring. Might be good for the family if we go away for some time.
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>>4370795
We have Courageous Sky. We can probably arrange for letters and messages to be sent to her. And Daubeny.
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>>4370745
Orin on the other hand is *UNTESTED* and his loyalty mission is unknown.

We picked him up during the fight with the Langlish mercs, so he has a connection with the Faction Knights.

He would be the only person other than our brother who would be in a position to report our presence there. He's also a peasant,so he's weak to pressure from nobility.

We barely know anything about him. Where he's from, other than somewhere south and east of Fallavon. We don't know how he ended up with slavers, only that his situation was bad enough that it was either that work, starving, or poaching which is a hanging offense there.

However, he isn't exactly a close companion. As well, it's unlikely a peasant would be able to secretly contact the Prince since nobody would care enough to remember him.

> For your consideration, though

Nobody said there was only one possible spy. Perhaps Sir Norwache, late though he came, did recognize Orin. Or merely asked about the people around us, and discovered that he was with us when we came back from the woods and put 2+2 together, then got info from him about the period of time he wasn't with us.

> Paranoia

Norwache is a friend of Brother Gaspard, one of the Knights Comitasalong with the Pilgrims

> Horshoe paranoia

The Prince's information is so accurate, we *suspect* an informant in our closest circle. However, it's also entirely possible that the Prince merely has a very good spy system set up and correlated certain events with our movements. Being able to recieve news from many sources, he could have had a dossier put together that had enough info that he could make deductions that are reasonably correct and then used this opportunity to state his suspicions as fact to gauge our reaction and see if it would confirm it.

It's not like he's the head of some small time gang or something.

TL;DR seriously, we need to wait for the post to pick apart what he knows and how he could know it.
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>>4370799
She's still one of the most sought after Bachelorettes in canton and the Marquis thing hasnt fallen through, if we want to beat him to marriage we need to progress fast through the courtship phase and that can't be done by spending three years in Canton.

>>4370801
Letters can only be sent to places courageous sky has been before.
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>>4370813
>Letters can only be sent to places courageous sky has been before.


Letters can be sent to the city here and then posted forward to the ladies I imagine.
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>>4370813
>in Canton

Fucking hell I need coffee
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>>4370804
>waiting for clues rather than jumping to conclusions
Miss me with that nerd shit.
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>>4370814
even so that only takes us so far and we should be taking advantage of the fact the Marquis is effectively immobile to blitz the courting
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>>4370813
Apologies mate. I meant as per >>4370814.

>>4370832
I think at most we can get till the advanced favour. Beyond that is doubtful.
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>>4370832
You want to stay here where the Prince considers us a threat? We just pissed in his cornflakes, we need to gtfo of town and as it turns out the Dragon Guard will get us out of town for a good chunk of time.

Not only will it help the heat die down, it'll improve our prestige, load us up with wealth and help our family "Oh Emile? Yeah recorded miracle AND he served in the Dragon Guard, quite the suitor"

But ignoring all that, marrying her would be great, but if it doesn't happen... well I'm sure we'll find others
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>>4370839
No I'm agreed leaving for the Vigil for wait is assumedly a few months is a great move to let the heat die down but joining the DG is excessive and its a three year stint with no breaks with all manner of shit happening while Emille has to sit on his thumbs in a palace.
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>>4370777
>“Yes. Yes, it is a possibility. You must understand that the Church is a holy institution. A holy insititution, yes. But an organisation of men nonetheless. Any such organisation of man is prone to weakness, hesitation. Corruption even.

Sounds like a man who would work with the Faction to dig up the Sons of Sin.

Sounds like a man who would be at work within the Church, even if it meant working against the Church.

> Or he's a really good actor

A trained priest? Yeah, they actually do tend to be really good actors. It's literally part of their training on how to approach people, how to proselytize, how to construct logical arguments etc. Theology actually involves a ton of formal logic, at least the kind of theology in the setting does.

We even participated in it with the debate about the beastman with a broken leg at the beginning of the Pilgrimage.

Also, he's part of the Reclaimant faction. What an interesting term, reclaimant. What are they reclaiming?

Father Towbray is a zealot. He might not be antagonistic towards us, and actually be truly trying to guide us, but that doesn't mean he won't also sacrifice us OR HIMSELF in service of a higher cause. If that means reporting on us to somebody in the Reclaimants in the Church, or reporting to the Faction Knights themselves, he might see it as part of his duty. He might even see it as protecting us, after all it's not like he's necessarily reporting anything *bad* about us.

His affiliation with Craig at the very least needs to be further investigated. Towbray is clearly part of an unorthodox faction, and is quite capable of political manuevering, and is extremely well placed to be a spy.

Indeed, being a priest made us automatically disregrad confronting him about Craig at all.
He had opportunity, and was involved directly in a foiled plot against us, so the only question is one of motive but given the really fucky secrets we've found out it's not like it's a stretch to consider multiple potential motives.

Consider as well, that we killed Vancewell before the pilgrimage. Additionally, our brother was already being sought by both sides in the secret war. The pilgrimage route was predictable that it would pass near where Anarchy was being excavated, it's predictable that at least one side aware of this would place a spy in the pilgrimage to ensure they didn't stumble across anything they shouldn't.
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>>4370814
Choke: Expecting CS to fly across an ocean to deliver letters.

Woke: Sending Lady Vancewell courtship letters.

Bespoke: Sending the letters to Lady Hewitt, inside letters describing Cathagi which I suspect she would be interested in since she loves reading, who would then pass the letters along to Lady Vancewell. Seems like the sort of thing she'd be into, sneaking about. Would keep her dad from flipping his shit.

SHIELD GO CLANG: Ask Sir Gilbern to help you secretly send letters to Lady Vancewell for you using his connections.
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>>4370857
Ha consider me onboard for this idea
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>>4370860
I wonder though just how vast the body of water between the two actually are. Is it a proper ocean or just a strait? Has Forgotten said anything on that topic?
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>>4370857
I mean this is great but sir Gilbern is a comrade not a brother for life their is some risk their.

I wonder if we technically fulfilled BFL requirments by revealing we helped seal Anarchy?

>>4370862
at a quick glance I want to say its like the Mediterranean with the west more like the Atlantic and north like the Baltic probably wrong on a few accounts though
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>>4370863
We'll need to speak to him about it. Considering that the Prince faction effectively now knows of us, we need to reveal ourselves to him too to gain some sort of counter vs the Prince's influence. A second sitdown with him would be recommendable. Perhaps with our sister along so that she at least has an idea of what might be arrayed vs our family.
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>>4370868
Yeah we need to tidy things up with him, especially considering we agreed to attempt to pass on any info we heard in Cathagi that would be of use for him. We didn't agree to all out spy, but we did say we'd help
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>>4370849
Damn. You're making really good points. You're gonna make my heart break.

>>4370868
>>4370871
Are you guys suggesting we break our vow of silence? How else are we going to be able to convey what we know to Gilbern?

Also on an unrelated note, it seems to me ironically that despite our family being stauch Kingsmen, Emile is aligning ourselves quite quickly with the Reginae. We must not forget that the Church can be corrupt and the only Word we can truly trust is that of the Almighty.
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>>4370868
I feel us being kingsmen should count for some hesitance about jumping in bed with queensmen, but if it means getting help courting Frida then I suppose ambition could top traditional political views.

>>4370874
our vow could very well be dissolved in the hearing depending on the development then we may be able to speak freely with him about our developments.
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>>4370874
I'm not too keen on breaking the vow, I just meant generally improving things with him before we leave. Possibly after whatever church stuff happens tomorrow (assuming it still goes ahead).
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>>4370874
>>“I hereby swear on the Book of Brothers, on the Knucklebone of this Unnamed Saint and on my life that I shall utter no word of what I witnessed here today save by Her Majesty’s command or that of her favoured servants, the Heralds. May the Almighty strike me down where I stand should I forswear this oath, and may my limbs be torn from my body by horses and left to rot in the sun.”
Gilbern's a Herald, he can release us from the oath.
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>>4370874
bruh he has the authority to lift the vow
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>>4370874
Gilbern is a reginae Herald.

>“I hereby swear on the Book of Brothers, on the Knucklebone of this Unnamed Saint and on my life that I shall utter no word of what I witnessed here today save by Her Majesty’s command or that of her favoured servants, the Heralds. May the Almighty strike me down where I stand should I forswear this oath, and may my limbs be torn from my body by horses and left to rot in the sun.”

If he bids us talk, we can. Though of course it should be handled in stages. We reveal to him in private who we are. Then we ask for him to let our sister know of certain portions minus the son of sin so that she knows of the threats vs our family.
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>>4370880
>>4370883

Good work, I was looking for this so I could check the exact wording of it. I think we can work this and have an honest chat with him in private. He is a herald after all.
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>A traitor on team Andrei
Nah bruhs this is some prince mindgame bullshit. Forgotten isn’t going to retroactively make one of our companions a spy just because of a few bad rolls at least I hope he doesn’t
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>>4370863
I don't think it would unlock BFL due to how we went about it and then bailed. But it would probably put us in a position where he would be willing to give us another chance to help him with a secret mission while in Cathagi. He did bring it up way back at the start of the pilgrimage with the implication that we could do so.

We can also straight up request that he release us from our oath as well, no? He has that authority I believe.

Also, what risk is there in asking him to help us clandestinely woo Lady Vancewell? Like he's going to be able to say no to having our correspondance pass through his hands if he's at all suspicious that we're conspiring? So long as we don't actually conspire, then it's fine.

>>4370625
Shopping with Patrikas! We're going to be in Cathagi for a while, several years for Dragon Guard, so we might as well invest in clothing for that. We'll have the coin to buy new stuff when we get back as well, and we can also have our apparel tailored to fit Mikhail then as well which would be appropriate for a Squire so it's not like we'll be out the money for it.

Additionally, Patrikas can help us with what social gaffes to avoid, how to best deal with the Dragon vs the Court, how to approach Kyrios Militades and Kyria Eustace when we arrive there etc.

They are part of the Stratiotikas caste, currently in decline, but helping them against the Beastmen may have stopped that.

Patrikas is out of grace with the Medusae caste, who seems to be the currently most influential, and part of the Aetherneum, who is the librarian caste.

The Merchantae caste is conflicting with the Medusae, growing in influence.

So depending on what is happening in Cathagi, if we approach the Stratiotika we might find them allied with the Merchantae OR Medusae cast, or being picked on by both of them, or being currently neutral with both sides approaching them to ally, or something completely different. She might be able to get us some backing from the Aetherneum possibly as well.

Oh. Random idea. Approach Lady Hewitt and see if she would be willing to entrust us with some books that we could take to Cathagi and exchange with the Aetherneum for books to send back to her in return. That would also give us a potential channel to send messages back discretely for any reason should we find need to. She's super rich, so she probably has some copied books she'd be willing to send.
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>>4370890
> Retroactively

Bold of you to assume that.
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>>4370901
Finding out there has been a traitor in our midst because of a 0 success result would be a reward. We are not gonna be rewarded with a 0 result.
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>>4370900
all this shadowrunning is probably making me paranoid but if their is particularly clandestine information in our letters for whatever reason their is nothing going to stop him from reading such a letter we also don't know for certain where the queen stands on Montbrunes powerstruggle so if they would see a favorable outcome through us failing to court Frida things could end poorly for our efforts.

again probably supreme paranoia but food for thought

I do hope it technically fulfills the criteria for BFL even with our ulterior motives but I wont say no to a new quest for it

>Shopping with Patrikas
not a bad Idea at least would allow us to know what to expect on the road if not the DG

goddamit Im going end up a sourpuss about this whole DG vs Vancewell buisness
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>>4370890
>>4370901
>>4370908
White bitch
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>>4370908
I mean. Look at the 3 success. It also showcases the probability of a spy already. So I already postulate the spy network already existed. Much like how Forgotten mentioned we could have easily missed the entire faction wars and continued on our own merry adventures, so too could the spy ring exist silently until we came across it.
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Huh.

Man we missed a trick.

>“My apologies for my part in this… incident. I had not expected it to escalate as it did. The lone Pegasus sees comfort in the strength of the east maiden’s garden.” Sir Heinrich Norwache regards you with something approaching awe. “I thought you a goner for sure. How did you get out of there alive, freund?”

I wonder how the Prince would have reacted if we started with that code phrase.
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I wonder if preestablishing context for our favors is okay? like when we are upholding chivalry on the battlefield, defeating brigands and such we'd be wearing Daubneys favor as part of upholding our desire to prove to her chivalry prevails and we wear Vancewells at court as a public sign that we are competing for her?
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>>4370291
Would Mother permit and approve of Roselyn marrying Sir Robert Gilbern the Second Herald? He's the black sheep of House Gilbern and stands to inherit nothing. On the other hand, Roselyn is beautiful, cunning, charming, and the eldest child of Lord Andrei and Lady Andrei. If all of House Andrei's sons died and their lines failed, then Roselyn and her line will become the heiress/heirs. Only lords or heirs of a house that is equal to or greater than House Andrei would be worthy of Roselyn.

>>4370804
I'm almost certain that the informer isn't Orin. He didn't come to us, we came to him by chance. Orin has a good heart just like Mikhail. He refused to let the beastfolk slaves be murdered and was willing to take on everyone by himself to protect them (a display that Emile found quite valorous and admirable).
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>>4370942
It'd be a fine match and not just because we know they'd get along, he's the second herald of the Queen thats quite something and assumedly the heir of House Gilbern unless i'm mistaken.
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>>4370942
Quoting Forgottens response
>Whether this had anything to do with his decision to join the Ordo Reginate is unknown to Sir Andrei, but it speaks miles to House Gilbern's influence, reach and reputation that even the black sheep of the family would eventually rise from the ranks of the Reginate and become a Queen's Herald.
When even the black sheep can go so far I doubt there'll be an issue.

Also if Lord Gilbern gets disgraced because of this investigation this could give Sir Robert an opportunity to seize control of the House. Also being Second Herald himself gives him political power of his own even if it's tied to the Queen.
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>>4370946
Also Roselyn has three brothers now, unless somehow all of them die I don't think the Andreis are worried about the succession
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>>4370950
unless something happens to Emille AND Damien
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Hey can we swear an oath to become Sir Gilbern’s friend again.
I mean firstly we haven’t really been ranking up in our knight oaths that much and secondly I really like Gilbern:( and I don’t want to leave things as they are right now
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>>4370942
Its basically a direct line to the Queen's ear and I do not think that the ordos reginae will immediately disband and reform with each successive queen. The political capital this allows will give anyone pause before they risk incurring the wrath of a furious reginae herald husbando.

Also oddly, I am unable to find any reference to Gilbern having any other siblings beside his sister. Anyone found anything else?
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>>4370940
I think something like using Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny's favour only in military environments and using Lady Frida Vancewell's favour only in courtly environments would be suitable.

>>4370945
>assumedly the heir of House Gilbern

If that's the case, then I stand corrected.

>>4370946
>>4370950
>Also Roselyn has three brothers now, unless somehow all of them die I don't think the Andreis are worried about the succession

I don't know mate. Both Damien and Emile almost died in the skirmish. Damien should really get married soon and father children to secure House Andrei's future.

>>4370953
I tried but couldn't find anything. Sorry.
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>>4370951
>>4370954
That's why Damien is being dragged home immediately after this so unless the Prince really wants to make an example out of the Andreis there's no way the heir is going anywhere else for the forseeable future.
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>>4370954
Yea... So barring a confirmation from Forgotten about more male siblings, we might be looking at the estranged heir to the House of Gilbern.
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>>4370952
seems a bit small scale for an oath, I think we're already sorta friends with him its just Gilbern is naturally taciturn & its a hazard of his job to shadowrun for ulterior motives.

>>4370954
Yeah makes sense Im just trying to contextulize it so it not just their for mechanics

>If that's the case, then I stand corrected.

I coult be entirely wrong im not sure we don't have a heap on House Gilbern as it stands currently but theirs been no mention of other siblings besides his sister and since Romanie is the only place where Women inherits on the same ground as men its a fair call to say he's the heir even if a black sheep.
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>>4370957
True. As soon as Damien has arrived back to the Andrei lands, Mother will make sure he never leaves home until he has a wife and gives her grandchildren. He had enough adventure for the foreseeable future.

>>4370958
>>4370959
He might be yes, but we should wait for confirmation I think.
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>>4370291
Agree with this.
Right now Sir Gilbern thinks we're an opportunistic 3rd party with our own interests at heart like Lord Alderague.

While this is definitely true to a certain extent since our House got dragged into this mess by accident rather than siding with anyone, our screw-up with the Prince means Sir Robert knows that we aren't going to be able to play both sides; heck Emile might just have driven the Andrei's into the Queen's side for the sake of self-preservation.

As such if our House is going to be forced into one corner we must as well go all the way and firmly bind ourselves with one side for protection.
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The Dragon is one of the very few characters that Crown Prince Lionel Aubres will definitely not mess with in any way. The Crown Prince of Canton having a hand in the death of one of the Dragon's personal trusted bodyguards would be a grave insult towards the Dragon and a serious provocation that could lead to war. It would stay the Crown Prince's hand because eliminating a potential threat isn't worth having the Dragon as an enemy.

>>4369463
One character I forgot to mention here is the King himself. If Emile could join the Roiguard, then he could convince the King to have his son and heir to lay off of us without having to pick a side between the Faction and the Queensmen. This of course relies on the King being neutral in the secret civil war.

>>4370969
Keep in mind that Crown Prince Lionel Aubres views not our house but us personally as a potential threat.
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>>4370994
I think the Roiguard and Dragonguard are smiliar in that they are basically private armies for their respective patrons whereas the Order reginae are smaller but can wrangle the larger church to the queens purpose but I could be wrong since all we've seen of the order is the heralds.
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>>4370994
>Keep in mind that Crown Prince Lionel Aubres views not our house but us personally as a potential threat.
If anything happens to Emile and/or Damien the family is definitely getting definitely getting dragged into it even if seems like a 'personal' dispute. Look at the Vancewells, Fallavons and de Broulerts for examples.
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>>4371007
if anything its an invetiability of the noble class to be dragged into the disputes of the crown on some level.

Emille's activites certainly haven't helped.
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actually I don't think we should be trying to deal with politics of this caliber, its what got us into this mess in the first time due to overreaching we should see where things fall rather than digging deeper.
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Personally I see the plot going onwards in two ways after the Pilgrimage to Cathagi:

1) Emile stays with the DG: less heat from the Prince, no involvement in the secret civil war (which means we can't influence it either), locks Frida's route because I seriously doubt her ambitions will wait for a rich country bumpkin when she can have a rich Duke. Probably the safest route, but leaves Canton to fend for itself.

2) Emile goes back to Canton: unless we go full Boring Hunting mode, all but guaranteed to make us part of the civil war. To save our ass, tighter ties to Queensmen and/or Vancewells are a must. Lots of risky intrigue but it has the chance to shape Canton somewhat.
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>>4371005
Yes, the heralds are all we've seen of them.

>>4371007
You're likely right. For now though, it's just us. Damien is still viewed as a curious third-party.

>>4371012
That's why I suggested joining the the Dragonguard or the Roiguard (if the King is neutral) to have the Crown Prince disregard us without us having to get any more involved in the secret civil war.
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>>4371008
>>4371012
With Emile coming to the Prince's attention I'd say House Andrei is too deeply involved in the Secret War to be able to smoothly back out at this point or simply declare ourselves neutral in all this.
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>>4371015
>Yes, the heralds are all we've seen of them.

Thats untrue. The Heralds are the senior members of the order. There are rank and file Queensmen. We've seen that in the assault on the Castle deep in the forest. A small private order army unto themselves. The fact that they can lean on and leverage other orders to give them military support, i.e. the order of names and the attempt to use the more independent Order of Broken Blades, gives them a disproportionate advantage in deploying strength of arms when required.
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>>4371015
Personally I think joining either sucks us into the vaccum of those Orders politics it's just we'd be joining a different hemisphere of politics with the Dragonguard.

>>4371017
yeah thats my conclusion, it started with Damien but Emille's adventures have only put us further in.

>>4371014
Pretty much this but 2 to me seems a bit more open ended, like we COULD patch things up and show ourselves to be a loyal Kingsmen but weither thats worth it or not remains to be seen.
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>>4371015
Joining the Roiguard is nuts, even if the King was supposedly neutral (which I heavily doubt), the Prince is going to have a shit ton of influence within the order.
Also what happens once the King dies or suffers an 'accident'?
DG is the safest option but I'd rather not have Emile basically become like the Patrikas but in reverse.
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>>4371021
Patching things up will become much more difficult once the ledger and our involvement in the investigation becomes known to relevant parties. A lot of feet are going to be stepped onto.

That said, *if* the Kingsmen are split more than I believe than it could be possible to reconcile with the 'neutral' ones while curbing the Prince's. It would still require us to be in Canton however, and get help from other political parties (like Queensmen) to reach that goal.
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>>4371017
We haven't reached the point of no return yet. We can still lose the Crown Prince's focus on us as a potential threat. He has much more important things to worry about and deal with than a potentially threatening knight errant.

>>4371020
I thought they were just lower ranked heralds or soldiers/warrior from Queensmen houses, but yes they might be rank and file Reginates

>>4371021
I don't think that'll be the case at least not the Dragonguard. Their main duty is to guard and protect the Dragon who doesn't get involved in politics unless the situation is urgent and calls for it.

>He is above petty politics and, being above it, has no input on the course this ancient civilisation takes. It is a curiosity that the Dragon Guard recruit solely from offshore, be they renowned Langland Mercenaries, Norsikaan Huscarls, Hejedii Cataphracts or Cantônian Knights. It is no shame for a Knight to join their ranks, great wealth and prestige is granted to those who serve. There is wealth and opportunity for any foreigner that travels there, though the danger is equally as great.

>>4371026
Would his influence outweigh the King's though?
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>>4371036
>soldiers/warrior

Soldiers/warriors*

>>4371014
>and/or Vancewells

They and our own house won't be able to protect us from the Crown Prince.
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>>4371036
>Would his influence outweigh the King's though?

Between us and his son why exactly should the King lift a finger to protect us? Plus barring unforeseen events he's going to be the future King, unless they really despise each other behind the scenes no one is going to say that the Prince's will is in opposition with the King's.

Also the Roiguard has been repeatedly mentioned as being used against the Reginates in the past during more tumultuous times; that is definitely NOT being neutral.
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>>4371036
After all our successes here with regards to the Praetor investigation we might rapidly rise up the Prince's list.
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>>4371041
Of course not, we need more allies than that but Vancewell do bring an interesting currency to the table.

Secrets and influence.

It's clear that they're involved in a few schemes, have connections to the Prince's faction and have power in courts. Swinging them from one side to the other can give us quite the leverage, whether we wish to act against the Prince or try a more neutral approach - even if Queensmen offer the highest chance of survival and fun in my opinion.
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>>4371028
The ledger and our involvment only extend so far, we can't say it involves either party yet and frankly it not of our ballpark considering we're stepping on a bunch of copperclippers feet.

But if their is royal faction involvment be it queensmen or Kingsmen we are in for some trouble but I doubt it.

>>4371036
Its a Varangian guard equivelant, I don't want to draw on historical information too much but they are likely just as political, I bet their guard duties extend to those in power like the Vizier and the head of the castes who will be involved in such politics.
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>>4371043
> emile upgrades from killing lords sons to killing the kings son
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>>4371051
I think Hast was doing his cruel little lord thing, saw a chance at advancing his prestige and took it, then regreted it when Emille came in with his big dick Idealist shit.
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>>4371043
If we join the Roiguard and the King is neutral, then he would not allow his son to assassinate a Roiguard who diligently protects the King and loyally serves the crown and Canton.

>>4371046
We might, but I still don't think it takes to the point of no return in regards to our involvement.

>>4371051
Okay that makes sense.

>>4371053
The Dragonguard are the Dragonguard. They answer to no one but the Dragon who is apolitical.
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>>4371058
>it takes to

It takes it to*
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>>4371051
Beyond Frida herself aligning with the Vancewells is going to be pretty hard especially if our House develops closer ties with the Rabes. Don't forget her father despises us.
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>>4371060
Unless of course a plan for Frida to take full control goes through. At a swoop the vancewells would turn into allies of the Rabes if we then proceed to marry into her family.
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>>4371058
What makes you think the Prince would need to be that obvious? As a Roiguard he could just order us to go on all sorts of increasingly risky missions and pray we die a glorious death in battle.
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>>4371058
I highly fucking doubt that to be the actual case.

>>4371060
at this point its more about Frida than her family.
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>>4371066
Frida doesn't really bring much to the table by herself though, especially if she breaks with the family.
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>>4371060
Vancewell Senior must have done so much shit that he could be easily removed (not necessarily lethally). Frida herself must know a few of these, like attempting to assassinate a fellow noble.

All it requires is to just have the correct audience listening to us - like say, Queensmen interested in a turncoat plot.

And while some can say "But Frida loves her father too much!", do we actually have proof aside from calling him Daddy? Sure, she's affectionate but she also believes his vendetta is foolish. Press the right buttons and I can se her betray daddy dearest.
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>>4371060
>>4371069
Regarding this I'm gonna agree with this anon >>4370839. If we can't marry her, then we'll just accept it and move on. Emile already has moved on beyond previous women like Tracker Jean. There are plenty of others out there.

>>4371064
Doing something like that especially constantly will make it obvious that the Crown prince wants Emile dead. Besides, the King's orders are above the Crown Prince's orders for the Roiguard.

>>4371066
I don't. We have info from the pastebin and I've got no reason to presume that the Dragonguard answer to anyone but their patron, the apolitical Dragon.
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I'm gonna go take a nap. See you fellow kniggas.
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>>4371069
Yeah particularly now as the sole heir of her House she is the future of her house so she's practically a force unto herself.

>>4371072
I think she's pretty cold on family, she was speaking with a lot of ice on the dancefloor so I wouldn't really rule anything out personally.

>>4371073
then frankly I think thats either naive or foolish to think that other forces can't hold sway over them sure at the end of the day they would have to obey the dragon but how often would or could it be raised to action if its every desire is forfilled by the castes and its Vizier?
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>>4371079
I mean the reason why foreign bodyguards were used historically is because they're political outsiders in the first place which made them less likely to backstab you. Plus if people are constantly rotating in and out every few years it prevents the Guard from establishing themselves in the local political scene.
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>>4371084
I'll agree the idea on paper is solid but its application thats middling here, just because they are foreign doesn't mean they come with vested interests or ambitions or the capacity to devlop them during their rotation and those three years can always be extended if they want it from memory.
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>>4371072
>Vancewell Senior must have done so much shit that he could be easily removed

That's a huge baseless assumption.

>(not necessarily lethally)

It would be lethal as he'd rather die.

>Frida herself must know a few of these, like attempting to assassinate a fellow noble.

No reason to think she knows and Frida will never betray her daddy anyway.

>do we actually have proof aside from calling him Daddy?

Her referring to him as daddy is proof of very strong affection. He has spoiled her rotten with affection.

>Press the right buttons and I can se her betray daddy dearest.

That's just delusional and won't happen since we voted to not attempt to win her to our way of thinking. Frida isn't going to betray her beloved daddy just to marry some lover, especially now that she's his heiress and he has put his faith in her to accomplish their ambitions of the Duke's title. In fact, she'll become upset and we'll lose all good will with her for suggesting to murder or harm her daddy in any way so we can marry her.

This is without mentioning that Emile isn't some pathetic giga simp who'd even consider murdering or usurping a lord to marry his daughter.

>>4371079
>I think she's pretty cold on family

Then you clearly need to re-read the update.
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>>4371102
>Vancewell Senior must have done so much shit that he could be easily removed

>That's a huge baseless assumption.

It's not really baseless. He's already shown he lacks scruples by sending assassins after us. If he's willing to murder one person he may be willing to do more.

>Frida herself must know a few of these, like attempting to assassinate a fellow noble.

>No reason to think she knows and Frida will never betray her daddy anyway.

She's the heir of the family from what we understand and was involved in attempting to have us killed. There is plenty of reason to believe she'd be involved in other plots and schemes. Not only that but she's a political animal herself.

>do we actually have proof aside from calling him Daddy?
>Her referring to him as daddy is proof of very strong affection. He has spoiled her rotten with affection.

This is just... a weird assumption. As mentioned previously she's political and knows how to play her role. It could be nothing more than that. Or it could be how she was raised to refer to him. Or yeah, maybe she's affectionate. Not enough evidence to draw a conclusion there.

>Press the right buttons and I can see her betray daddy dearest.

>That's just delusional and won't happen since we voted to not attempt to win her to our way of thinking

This isn't correct. We didn't vote to NOT win her over. We simply didn't vote specifically TO win her over. There is an important difference there and realistically, not only could this change in the future but I imagine it'd be more likely that she does the convincing in this situation.

I do agree though that Emile suggesting we take him out in anyway is a little ridiculous and not at all in character.
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>>4371102
>Then you clearly need to re-read the update.

She explicitly stated she cried no more than necessary over her own brother that pretty fucking cold.
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One more thing, Frida isn't a fool or a tool who can be manipulated. She's a cunning schemer. If Emile actually tries to trick her into betraying or harming her own beloved father by ''pressing the right buttons'' (using his goodwill to emotionally manipulate her) so he can marry her, she will see through his malicious and mean-spirited bullshit immediately and tell him to piss off. It will end up in Emile squandering up all the goodwill with her just like how he did with Tracker Jean.
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>>4371110
She said he was just as bad as a kid so if she was on the receiving end of some of it I can see why she wouldn't be shedding many tears at his death
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>>4371109
It's montbrunfag, don't bother engaging. he comes around these hours to bitch about Frida yesterday too.
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>>4371113
Even so it's pretty cold to say that about one's own kin, I'm pretty sire even Sir Gilbern would feel decidedly mixed about his father's death.
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Forgotten, any chance for an update today or will it most likely be tomorrow?
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>>4371124
My guess is there will be an update in 3 hours and 17 minutes.
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>>4371109
>If he's willing to murder one person he may be willing to do more.

The fact that he's willing to send assassins after us for our hand in his son's death doesn't mean he'll be willing to assassinate others.

>She's the heir of the family from what we understand and was involved in attempting to have us killed. There is plenty of reason to believe she'd be involved in other plots and schemes. Not only that but she's a political animal herself.

Fine, I'll concede this.

>>4371109
>This is just... a weird assumption. As mentioned previously she's political and knows how to play her role. It could be nothing more than that. Or it could be how she was raised to refer to him. Or yeah, maybe she's affectionate. Not enough evidence to draw a conclusion there.

It's not really a weird assumption. She refers to him as daddy even after she drops her political persona, so it isn't political. Being raised to refer to him like that is a serious indication of her being spoiled rotten with affection by him.

>This isn't correct. We didn't vote to NOT win her over. We simply didn't vote specifically TO win her over.

Semantics game.

>I do agree though that Emile suggesting we take him out in anyway is a little ridiculous and not at all in character.

At least you concede that.

>>4371110
That only applies only to him and that's because he was a cruel little boy and would've been a cruel lord, so that means Frida isn't no where near as cold as you think.

>>4371115
>It's montbrunfag, don't bother engaging

If I was Monbrunfag, then I would've shilled hard to marry the Montbrun women Frida no matter what.

>>4371115
>to bitch about Frida yesterday too.

I'm not ''bitching'' about Frida. I don't mind her whatsoever. I'm talking about the deluded idea of Frida betraying her own loving daddy so we can marry her. That and Emile even wanting to murder or usurp Lord Vancewell to marry his daughter. That'd beyond simp tier and she'll view it as a pathetic, desperate, and maliciously mean-spirited.
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We need to fund out more about House Vancewell and Frida before we say anything for certain we're running on one interaction albeit one that's fairly uhh revealing.
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>>4371130
Welcome knigga, grab a bowl and join us by the fire, we saved you a spot.

Ans hold on to your butts because this ride has only just finished chapter 1.
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>end up being the only man frida actually loves
>she can't marry us regardless of how much power she accumulates
ooofff
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>>4371142
Pls not again I can't handle another captain
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>>4371142
What would happen if Emile secretly married her without either of Emile's or Frida's parents knowledge? That's actually possible unlike tricking Frida into murdering, betraying, or usurping her daddy.
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>>4371151
eloping would probably lead either to disenhertance or something really fucken messy and i doubt frida would go full idealist even for us she would probably ask us to be some side action and put bastards in her some other poor shmuck has to raise though our knigga would never go for that
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>>4371151
That would be a hell of a scandal, likely Vancewells and maybe the Fallavons would try and have it annulled considering the Marquis is involved, I have no idea what the Andrei's would think though Ros and Mother would likely have a fit.
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>>4371152
this will honestly be more painful then daubney due to our natures
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>>4371152
I mean at this point they can't disinherit her she is the only option as heir to our understanding so unless a new heir pops out of nowhere disinheriting isn't exactly an option.

Everything else is totally in line with her though jesus
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honestly the only true way to pull the vancewell route is to be so fucken good even as a knight errant that even the king would think us a good son in law even though we are unlanded we would have to amass so much soft power >miracles >feats of glory > wealth
that miss vancewell would see her position in canton improved by the arrangement and even then it will still be eloping

oh and i'm not trying to discourage I'm all aboard the frida train but it's going to be hard
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>>4371117
Frida wasn't close with her late elder brother Hast because of how cruel and brutal he was. She isn't cold-hearted.

>>4371152
>>4371153
Well then what happens when Emile takes her maidenhood during their late night meeting? A noblewoman who loses her virginity before marriage will get shamed and rejected by society as it would be a massive scandal. No one will want to marry her. If Emile doesn't take responsibility for that and marry her, then she'll stay single forever.
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>>4371162
ironically we would perform a feat so heroic so honorable so ballsy so CHIVALROUS so that we would have no obstacle to marry our backstabbing posion and dagger waifu
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>>4371163
>Well then what happens when Emile takes her maidenhood during their late night meeting?
What if she's not a virgin though
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>>4371162
BIg dick ambition is certainly a part of courting her, coat ourselves in enough prestiege and wealth maybe help her family to Montbrunes duchy in a major way and we could go from the dark horse suitor to a favored candidate.

>>4371163
if we roll with worst case and thats found out the Marquis rolls up and we have a fight over it in which case we laugh and beat him with our shield for even implying she's nothing but the perfect woman.

But on the other hand horseriding is a thing that happens and I'm more than certain Frida would have an excuse one way or another.
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>>4371163
> No one will want to marry her. If Emile doesn't take responsibility for that and marry her, then she'll stay single forever.

I seriously doubt this would happen. Moreso I doubt she'd let it happen if it were a real concern
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>>4371172
she's probably not but there were some signs of her being flustered during the update so who knows
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>>4371172
>inb4
>daubney got porked by gab and thats why she took it so hard
>but vancewells is such a bitch with high standards that she hasn't even let the marquies hit it
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>>4371183
>Reverse uno expectations where the pure waifu has gotten porked and the ambitious bitch hasn't

Is it bad that I want this? because I kinda do, it adds an extra layer of sad to Daubney.
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>>4371172
>What if she's not a virgin though

If she has already lost her maidenhead, then she's already screwed unless Emile decides to marry her secretly.

>>4371176
>I seriously doubt this would happen. Moreso I doubt she'd let it happen if it were a real concern

I'll admit this is true.
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>also going around tourneys with vancewells favour
fuck what a massive shitpost to every faction
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>>4371176
if thats the case this booty call is going to be interesting
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>>4371183
>Inb4 Ros reveals to us she isn't a virgin either once Emile mentions his tryst with Vancewell to his siblings
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>>4371194
>canton is thot central
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>>4371187
fuck it actually adds a sweet element to vancewell where she's got a blushing bride thing to break the ice queen thing she has 90% of the time.
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>>4371196
Romanie is thot central*

fixed for you
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>>4371196
>“Well these new courtly clothes of his were very expensive. And it was her or the bloodthirsty northern woman… If he needs to bed the Cathagi exile to spill her secrets then that’s a price worth paying.”“Cain on the Cross, woman, I was joking! …You don’t really think Em would try to bed her, do you?”
>“You boys really need to stop letting that thing between your legs do all the thinking. Seduction is a weapon like any blade, and all sorts of secrets are spilled through the right pillow talk.”
>“And what does my own sister know about ‘the right pillow talk’?”
>“How do you think Mother gets Father to do half of anything?”
>“They still… But… but she’s so old!” Damien groans as they enter the tavern’s backyard where Emile’s squire and sworn man are currently having a practice bout.

Dunno anon, this says a lot IMO
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>>4371163
Gosh, who would want to marry this disgraced noble woman who is the sole inheritor of a powerful and wealthy house.

Dude. They would just push all the blame onto Emile, a second son Knight Errant of a minor noble house, chop of his head, demand reparations severe enough to destroy our house, and find a noble of likely lesser standing who would be willing to join the Vancewell house and carry on Lord Vancewells lineage and legacy while Frida would be quickly married and made to produce a child to be the heir ASAP so that Lord Vancewell could directly raise him for as long as possible to ensure that his name and lineage continues after he's gone and that the husband merely acts as a placeholder and sperm donor.

The scandal will be suppressed and pass with time, although Frida would likely never rejoin society and would only have occasional female friends visit. It's questionable how much presence she would have in her own child's life.

Inheritance and lineage is way more important in feudal societies than "purity".
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>>4371208
Not to mention that the person who marries her could tout themselves as a savior of her honour against the house that produced such a wicked "knight" as Emile

This is like PR 101 for these guys
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>>4371183
>>4371187
I sincerely doubt that's the case. She would've told her mother of that so she'll stop trying to find suitors for her. They're both still virgins.

>>4371208
I'm not gonna bother responding to this. You don't know squat about feudal societies.
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>>4371209
That would only be the case if he had raped her. Otherwise hell no.
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>>4371213
... Ok are you seriously implying that wouldn't present it as rape? Do you really think they'll trot Lady Vancewell out and go "Oh no the bad man had sex with her but she wanted it too!"

If losing her virginity was an issue and someone kicked up a stink about it they'll absolutely pin it on a scapegoat and call it rape.
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>>4371216
Oh they would definitely present it as one. Proving it on the other hand is a totally different matter.
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>>4370900
You know we should introduce Lady Hewitt to Patrikas after Marco Hewitt is suitable deal with, the gals would get along wonderfully.
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>>4371212
No anon. It's you who know jackshit. Any young ambitious noble would jump at the chance to marry her. Nobody gives a shit about purity when the prize for her hand is a nice lordship.
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>>4371216
Or you know they could just blackmail/give hush money to shut the groom's side up.
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>>4371219
I'm not sure they'd really need to. The Vancewells are powerful as would be her suitor I imagine. It's likely enough just to put the accusation out there and do some cage rattling to prevent anyone from calling it a lie publicly. Seems that that would be enough to save face
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>>4371102
Hello Montrbunfag, how have you been? Still with your head up your ass, I see. I'm glad, some things should never change.

> That's a huge baseless assumption.
Oh sure, I shouldn't have said 'easily'. But he could be removed.

> It would be lethal as he'd rather die.
Oh, I'm glad you are Forgotten and you have such a a clear insight of this unseen character that you can claim he's take suicide over exile, for example.

> No reason to think she knows and Frida will never betray her daddy anyway.
Oh yes, she knows about the assassination attempt on us but not about other stuff. Totally reasonable.

Also, no reason *not* to assume she would't betray him since a mere word doesn't mean UNDYING LOYALTY, she criticizes him in the same scene and she's ambitious enough to throw people under the bus.

> Her referring to him as daddy is proof of very strong affection. He has spoiled her rotten with affection.
Irrelevant, we have Emile who calls his father Father and yet loves him very deeply.

Besides, I've said she holds affection for him. However, pretending this is a sign of complete loyalty is delusional.

> That's just delusional and won't happen since we voted to not attempt to win her to our way of thinking.
Ah yes, I'm sure Forgotten will never allow us to meet her halfway. It's not like he offers us IC compromises and Emile has a scheming mother and sister who are remarkably similar to Frida.

All in all, your case hinges on a single word without much other support. We'll see after a few more interactions with Frida, if the thread so chooses. Toodles.
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>>4371224
That's a good point also
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>>4371220
Hey there's an idea, Lady Hewitt would love to learn more about the Grand library from someone with actual experince on it.

>>4371225
Thats not even mentioning what House Fallavon and the Marquis would do to save face and avenge his ''crying'' bride.
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>>4371221
Nah, it is most certainly him and you who know jackshit. You don't know even a single atom about feudal societies.

>>4371225
They would most definitely need to. Emile's a noble after all. Mere accusation doesn't mean shit.
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>>4371230
>Mere accusation doesn't mean shit.

Rumors and accusation, especially when backed up by power and armies do tend to mean quite a lot. Especially if they provided an "out" of sorts which hurt the house but didn't destroy it
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Can we please not drown this thread in shitflinging we've gone three? threads without it and I like to think we've proven we can be better than it and frankly forgotten deserves better than have to sift through it.
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There will be an update tonight, but if we are seeing a return to shitposting and mudslinging I WILL be refusing votes to some IDs. Otherwise the discussion is welcome and frankly pretty good.

We've gotten this far without a shitfight, let's keep it going.
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>>4371188
I also want to point out, that whoever marries her now will also recieve her inheritance as the dowry. So it's quite unlikely that her future husband would deny being the one to officially deflower her. After all, no way the marriage would be considered legal if he did and it would be annulled as having been performed under false pretenses. While the groom might be able to press for reparations due to the damage to his honour and his distress, it definitely wouldn't be comparable to the Vancewell inheritance.

Oh, and he would assuredly make a mortal enemy of Lord Vancewell. Like, his anger at Emile is mostly theaterical according to Frida. He barely tried to assassinate Emile, using an untrained commoner to gather up some local thugs not so much as part of an intentional plot against Emile but because they happened to have some dudes kicking around the place already so why not.

So. Yeah. Your concern about Fridas marriage prospects can be put to rest.

Besides, women have been faking having their "maidenhead" (lol technically correct I guess but weird to use it) since guys started caring about it. Not all women's hymen bleed when they first have sex, or it can be broken during physical activity such as horseriding or in a fall or if they try to hold in a sneeze. Seriously vagina's aren't designed very well to hold things in. Also people have been fucking before marriage since the dawn of time, regardless of risk or social status.

So a little bladder and some blood strategically placed, stained sheets, everyone is happy. The husband might be in on it, especially for arranged marriages.

Pregnancy is the real problem, because a) way harder to hide, and b) issues of inheritance. Bastards are acceptable for a man, because there can always be doubt regarding the father and the mother is already implicated as not being trustworthy by being single and pregnant.

Still, abortificants exist and people have used them also since the dawn of time. Powerful and rich nobles also have other options, such as a sudden illness requiring a year long retreat to an isolated manor, or a sudden desire to devote oneself to a nunnery for some time. Lots of options.
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>>4371234
Care to make a ruling of the importance of virginity in Cantonian society Forgotten?
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Anytime Montbrunfag rears his ugly head I just vote for whatever pisses him off most and watch the meltdown.
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>>4371235
>Pregnancy is the real problem, because a) way harder to hide, and b) issues of inheritance

I honestly think Frida is 100% on board with fetus delenda est unless she's head over heels for Emille or has a scheme that she can use it in.
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>>4371227
>Hello Montrbunfag, how have you been? Still with your head up your ass, I see. I'm glad, some things should never change.

I'm not Montburnfag, Copper clipperfag, or any fag buzzword. I would shill for Frida the Montrbrun waifu if I was.

>Oh, I'm glad you are Forgotten and you have such a a clear insight of this unseen character that you can claim he's take suicide over exile, for example.

You know you don't need to be the QM to know a character do you? He has literally sworn oaths of vengeance for Hast's death. He will never go peacefully without a fight no matter. He'd rather die than see us usurp him.

>Also, no reason *not* to assume she would't betray him since a mere word doesn't mean UNDYING LOYALTY, she criticizes him in the same scene and she's ambitious enough to throw people under the bus.

It doesn't need undying loyalty. She won't be tricked into betraying, harming, or murdering her father for some simp boy toy. It just won't happen.

>Irrelevant, we have Emile who calls his father Father and yet loves him very deeply.

No, it is absolutely. Calling him daddy is a pretty strong indication of strong affection. Emile calling his father just father isn't the same and is irrelevant. You're grasping for some thin straws.

>Besides, I've said she holds affection for him. However, pretending this is a sign of complete loyalty is delusional.

Yeah, it is delusional to state that Frida won't betray her beloved daddy for some giga simp. It totally requires complete loyalty to not be tricked by a pathetic simp into betraying your father. Frida isn't a retard. She'll see your bullshit from a lighyear away.

>Ah yes, I'm sure Forgotten will never allow us to meet her halfway. It's not like he offers us IC compromises and Emile has a scheming mother and sister who are remarkably similar to Frida.

Yeah, votes after all.

>All in all, your case hinges on a single word without much other support

And your case hinges on nothing but delusion.
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>>4371237
The public perception of purity and virginity is vastly more important than actually establishing proof of it in the bedroom. A lack of a hymen isn't going to spark a war or border skirmish, but the public opinion of licentiousness or cuckoldry (even if patently false) very well could. The excuse 'it broke while riding' or some other physical activity is bandied about especially in Romaine.
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>>4371250
>spoiler

eyyy I called it
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>>4371232
Rumors and accusation don't mean shit when accusing a nobleman of rape. They can easily be disproven. Every single attendee of the Ball has seen Frida gushing over Emile's courtship and won't be surprised if she spread her legs.
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>>4371253
Ok pal, lets agree to disagree :)
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Also, just to chip in on this whole Daddy Vancewell thing, the guy is pretty old and on his third wife (I think it's third, I'll have to check my notes). I don't see it as completely impossible for Vancewell to sabotage other courtship options or de facto run the house down the line if you guys are really angling for that.

But I don't really want to say more on that OOC because I'd prefer to remain impartial in the waifu wars.
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>>4371252
Romaine best dutchy. Pious and raunchy.
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At this point the only thing that anon is going to achieve everyone voting to go all the way with Frida just to prove him and wrong and to spite him.
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>>4371258
Angels in the streets devils in the sheets
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>>4371258
You're not wrong...

>>4371256
Oh man this Frida courtship is gonna be real interesting at this rate.
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>>4371256
> part of worst Duchy
> sells Pegasi to Snake assholes
> hates Based Bro House
> jackass with a jackass son
> limp dicked
Jesus Forgotten, you really hate the guy
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>>4371269
Nah I'd still say Fallavon is more of a shithole
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>Emille rocks up and announces his intentions to court Frida vancewell
>Suddenly opposition starts dying left & right
>Emille is completly befuddled as to why everything is coming down with a case of toilet troubles/hunitng accidents/failing down stairs
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>>4371270
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>>4371273
Seconded.
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>>4371269
> limp dicked

Could be. Or it could be that his wives just keep miscarrying. Who knows.
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>>4371273
The right sentence is 'Ceterum censeo Fallavonem delendam esse'.

>>4371276
So you're saying that it's possible his wives hated him so much that he didn't want his sons. Still bad.

inb4 Frida and/or Hast were behind this.
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>>4371276
Frida poisoning her stepmoms so she remains the sole heir. What a girl. Emile's dick must be diamonds.
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>>4371256
My God, sweet and gentle like the breeze Josephine Daubeny or exciting and passionate like fire Frida Vancewell. I don't know which do I want more.
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>>4371278
ha!

>>4371276
>Or it could be that his wives just keep miscarrying. Who knows.

such a shame that only the poor daughter of the Elderly lord Vancewell can inherit the fortune of her house.
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>>4371234
Sure Forgotten. I have just seen this post btw.

>>4371250
Well thank God Forgotten actually some knowledge of feudal societies.

Do people genuinely have no how freaking important virginity and purity was for feudal societies? A noblewoman's virginity is 100% proof that your child will be yours once you consummate your marriage with her. People didn't have DNA tests back. Men couldn't definitively prove that their children are theirs. This is insanely important for feudal societies where inheritance was determined by lineage. Your right to inherit is called into question if your lineage isn't certain. I could go on and on.

If you didn't consummate your marriage with your newlywed, then you were not married. Marriage vows be damned. It was standard practice to have a witness like a priest watch you consummate your marriage to prove that your marriage was valid. Emperor Friedrich Barbarossa went beyond this and literally had his entire court witness him consummating his marriage with his wife to make sure their marriage and their children's legitimacy are never called into question.

>>4371256
Would she betray, usurp, or murder her father so Emile can marry her? Would she even be tricked by Emile into doing this? How close is her relationship with her father? You didn't write her referring to him as ''daddy'' for nothing after all.
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>200 or so replies of nothing but shitposting and faggots arguing about some nonsense
Did I sum this up right? I'm just taking a wild guess by the way.
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>>4371287
>Would she betray, usurp, or murder her father so Emile can marry her? Would she even be tricked by Emile into doing this? How close is her relationship with her father?

I cannot possibly answer these meta questions, sorry.
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>>4371282
I'm so onboard the Vancewell express I don't think I could get off if I wanted to save for forced ejection.
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>>4371287
>etc etc etc etc real world stuff

You need to stop applying real world stuff so strictly and immediately to a place that isn't the real world. There are parallels obviously, but your arguments hold no weight until the QM chimes in because we're arguing about a fictional place, not Earth. We've now got an idea of the politics of virginity thanks to the QM so the argument can end
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>>4371279
>The Becky Josephine
Severe oneitus
Doesn't smile
Can't play courtly games
Wallflower
Perpetually melancholy
Blames herself for everything
Would never hurt a fly
Trusts no one, not even herself

>The Stacy Frida
Dates the Marquis and slums with minor lordlings
Perpetual bitch smirk
Owns the courts
The rose of the dance floor
Sharp tongued, cute when flustered
Never blames herself, everyone else is at fault
Aborts her siblings in the womb
Has never even heard the word trust
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Question, with Vancewell we obviously stand to gain a lot given her status as heir the Vancewell lands but do we gain anything from Daubeny like that? Or would it just be for love?
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>>4371298
I don't think so but we actually don't know much about the Daubney family besides that they seem pretty tight with the Rosseau's
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>>4371290
Hey Forgotten what's stopping Lady Josephine from just taking vows or something if she wants to escape marriage? Or is that too meta?
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>>4371259
I don't mind if we do. Really, I couldn't care less about waifufaggotry. It's just how about we go about it is totally simp.

>>4371290
Okay.We're going to see her again so we'll know once then.

Would it be IC for Emile to murder, usurp, or trick Frida into betraying her daddy? That's definitely not a meta question.
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>>4371301
probably not with some workaround or character development on Emille's part, I could see a couple of scenarios but it depends on lord Vancewell's portrayal or Frida egging Emille on to do stuff.
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>>4371288
>Do people genuinely have no how freaking important virginity and purity was for feudal societies?
75% talk about future choices, 25% about what you said.

I'm guilty of taking part in the second
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>>4371298
Her family is fucking rich if I remember correctly, we were pretty impressed by their state and Castle.
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>>4371300
This was honestly what I had in mind eventually until I realised I underestimated her popularity.

>>4371301
Usurp maybe? But I don't see it as IC for Emile to be outright plotting murder unless there is some extreme change in circumstances.
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>>4371306
>Usurp maybe?

Usurp a lord to marry his daughter? Really, Emile is that much of a simp?

You didn't answer if it's IC for Emile to try and trick Frida into betraying her daddy btw.
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>>4371309
What exactly is "simp" about usurping a Lord? Your buzzword doesn't mean anything
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>>4371310
I think its the idea of Emille doing it soley for that vancewell pussy, which isn't entirely accurate or inaccurate really.
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The man is old and she is his only heir guys, if we want to marry her and she approves, I bet she can buy all the time in the world for nature to take it's course. Let's not plot murder and betrayal yet.
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>>4371321
Their is still the Marquis and we should strike while he is incapacitated and woo her hard & fast until she will say no to him.
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>>4371306
Forgotten is still hoping that this daughteru of his win.
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>>4371294
>>4371310
What happened to lets agree to disagree or whatever you said here >>4371254 ?

>>4371302
Maybe if you call shitting all over Emile's actions, traits, beliefs, and character in general character development then yeah.

>>4371309
>You didn't answer if it's IC for Emile to try and trick Frida into betraying her daddy btw.

Judging from Forgotten's silence he won't answer this IC question even though it's not meta.
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>>4371326
Hey, I'm still on the Debauney train. But letting that memetic nat 1 go to waste feels bad, you know?

Plus, Vancewell gives us a reason to stay in Canton and get involved in the secret civil war one way or another. As much as I'd love to see the DG questline, political bullshit is a weakness of mine.
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One thing I don't understand is why we went for the Hearty vote. That choice read like a clear cut warning. I guess we'll get what we deserve. Then again, Emile has plot armour and wouldn't be alive right if it for it so who knows?
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>>4371355
>One thing I don't understand is why we went for the Hearty vote.

Because Emile is just a man at the end of the day and men are fallible. He was driven by excitement and passion and desire. Seems understandable
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>>4371355
opposites attract and warning or no with that crit 1 its hard to deny the mutual attraction is incredibly strong prehaps even in a toxic and unhealthy way.
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>>4371355
Because the implication of Haughty was almost impossible. Changing a woman like Frieda Vancewell that much seems more foolhardy than hanging around the Prince.

No, I prefer the option more similar to the relationship Emile's parents have. Both have their (stubborn) personalities, but they respect and accept each other. Hearthy felt like the choice better suited for that.
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>>4371358
>>4371359
So Emile is a simp retard? Also, the choice to court Frida didn't win. Ianthe's Courtship had more votes than Frida's Courtship interaction in the Dance Floor arena. Forgotten decided to go for the Banquet Hall Persuade interaction instead.
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>>4371374
you give the complexity available to Emille too little credit if all you can sum it up as is ''simp retard'
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>>4371369
>>4371369
>Because the implication of Haughty was almost impossible

Forgotten wouldn't put it as a choice then as it would be OOC. It certainly was more possible and less fooldhardy than going for a choice that read like a fucking warning.
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>>4371376
What fucking complexity? The choice was Emile's own thoughts and he realizes this is unwise. Going with it isn't complexity, it's being a pathetic simp who wants pussy with little regard to the consequences. Complexity my ass.
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>>4371355
Nothing about courting Frida is a good idea.

But that's part of the attraction.

Also, I've been thinking about it and actually we're not in a bad position right now to seriously court her.

Lord Vancewell and Frida are going to be quite concerned with continuing the Vancewell lineage. If Frida marries someone from a powerful house, even if the husband joins the Vancewell household it's questionable if she can keep it after her father dies if she doesn't produce an heir fast enough. The main family might strip the Vancewell lands and leave the child with very little, or even just have them return to the main family entirely.

Obviously heirs to major families are right out, as that would end the Vancewell lineage. Poor Marquis of Fallavon.

Ideally, a second son from a weaker but distinguished family who had established themselves in some way as worthy of renown would be willing to marry Frida and raise an heir while Lord Vancewell is still alive to participate in it.

Just saying. If Emile comes back from the Dragon Guard with significant wealth, and some connections, between recorded miracle and Dragon Guard that's plenty of reputation.

Enough wealth to seed an investment so we can sustain some sort of business or purchase some land for residual income, or getting a position of authority and influence in a Knightly Order, or become a BIG. DAMN. HERO. would actually make us a pretty attractive suitor.

House Andrei has an established, pedigreed lineage comparable with House Vancewells, but their assets and influence are localized and stable in Romaine a fair distance away. As well, House Andrei is functionally isolated in the Courts so there aren't any conflicts of interest, and Emile and Frida would be free to build House Andrei up into a reliable ally to House Vancewell.

House Andrei's reputation would also improve Vancewells reputation, which isn't the greatest due to their pegasus trafficking and Hast being a piece of shit.
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>>4371380
You are so reductionist you actually hurt, if you want to reduce it to Emille just wanting pussy and nothing more go right ahead.
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>>4371380
You are either autistically unaware of how human interactions and attraction work or just stupid. For the love of this thread and for your own good, have sex.

People getting their panties in a twist over a work of fiction with knights and magic and fake waifus seems to be a running theme in our good ol' korean basket weaving forum. But I guess that is part of the charm. One can only hope this doesn't demotivate Forgotten from pumping out updates, I need my daily fix.

In conclusion, I believe Fallavon should be destroyed.
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>>4371387
>Nothing about courting Frida is a good idea.
>But that's part of the attraction.

So pathetic simp stupidity

>>4371388
It is about Emile wanting pussy. The choice itself says it's stupid.
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At least you get pussy with Frida. Why are we even courting Josephine or whatever her name is? Is it because she's Gabe's ex-fiancee?
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>>4371387
I maintain that joining the DG is actually a lock in for being unable to marry Vancewell due to the time we would have to spend there.
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>4371397
>At least you get pussy with Frida. Why are we even courting Josephine or whatever her name is? Is it because she's Gabe's ex-fiancee?

In addition to this, how does it even make sense to go with Josephine's Idealist choice and Frida's Hearty choice at the same time? Josephine's Idealist vote is about proving chivalry prevails and good triumphing over evil or whatever, while Frida's Hearty vote takes a dump on all that shit and is the complete opposite.
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>>4371422
My id changed dammit
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>>4371139
Yes knigga. This is a ride I wanna join. Also copper clipper is my favourite thing that happened. Fuck dem rich bitches.
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>>4371377
Just because Emile thinks that Haughty is possible doesn’t make it so

I’d say that we Anons know better. Despite his rose coloured glasses, it would take something huge to change Frida’s core personality to such a degree
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>>4371387
You had me up until joining the Dragon Guard. It's a fair enough plan but requires abandoning Canton to the machinations of the Prince's Faction for three years and not being able to make any moves against them.
Three years of ignoring slavers, secret wars, questionable archeological digs, and the accumulation of power. It could even reach the point where Emile can't act because his family is at the whim of the Prince, or worse House Hewitt. Delaying action isn't always the best route to success.
It might mean an inglorious death railing against corruption but AKISTV
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>>4371437
>Just because Emile thinks that Haughty is possible doesn’t make it so

If retarded simp shit like Hearty is possible then so is Haughty.

>I’d say that we Anons know better. Despite his rose coloured glasses

Fuck no anons don't know shit. Show them a skirt and they lose sapience. No wonder we let Grandmaster Godric die rather than let Tracker Jean become a cripple, not let her die, but just let her become a cripple.

Fuck, waifufaggotry is so retarded. It's no surprise Prince got fucked by that dumb shit.
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>>4371441
I have to agree with this. Emile might have liked the idea of the Dragon Guard after first encountering the Cathagi, but I can't see an aristocratic idealist turning away from the degree of corruption he's now uncovered for little more than personal wealth and adventure. Finish the final Vigil and escort the pilgrims for sure, but he's gotta be coming back to clean house
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>>4371445
>but just let her become a cripple

Consequences were more than just letting her become crippled
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>>4371453
What other consequences were there other letting her become a cripple?
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>>4371445
You lose vote, become bigger man and get over it rather than shit up the board.

Some people's salt is unbelievable.
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>>4371460
If you didn't read the option why do you discuss it?
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>>4371460
Free Town gone for a long time, wastelander population crippled.
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>>4371461
The vote I voted for won. Forgotten disregarded all 1 ID posts even though the thread just started and it was the second poll. I's his own damn fault for putting such an important and contentious vote early at the thread and then discarding new ids.
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>>4371464
No where in the vote does it say that. You made that shit up.

>Tracker Jean would survive the injuries she sustained that day, but the scars of the snakefiend venom and her missing limb meant that she would never string a bow again, nor ride as she once had. Her Tracker family would largely disband, forming smaller caravans and ventures. [Tracker Jean]

Give her a dick instead of a pussy and it would've won 100%. Hell, it would've won if Forgotten had the sense to not put it early in the thread if he's going to treat it as a contentious vote.
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>>4371445
Jeez, calm down anon - take a walk mate
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I'm getting on the Vancewell Express and smile protectors can't stop me
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Man, I really hope Emile dies at some point and we go with a full on Path of Thorns Pascae copper clipper (he'll eventually become a walking dildo just like Emile though). He'd be much easier to roleplay as because anons sure as hell can't roleplay as an Idealist knight especially not a religious one.

Hell, we didn't even vote for Idealist as a character trait for Emile. The vote was tied between Cynic and Idealist. Forgotten shoved Idealist down our throat because that's what he personally preferred rather than ask for a tiebreaker roll.
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>>4371495
I'm sorry your preferred option lost so hard you wish for our characters death.
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>>4371467
>Give her a dick instead of a pussy and it would've won 100%

Well... Yeah it would won. Becuse it's a character that we knew. Had connections with. Also fuck would have our money. So obviously we would want to protect him rather then some old random dude we heard barely anything about
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The biggest issue I have with Vancewell is the apparent reason anons chose her before, during and after the vote, which was seemingly just just to sleep with her only a few people actually mentioned any advantages apparent from how awesome it would be to seduce her, which is not something Emile would think. While I do think the one angry anon should calm down, I mostly agree with him. Ive seen too many quests change course all because the voters wanted to have sex with a woman, regardless of the consequences. The vote has already been set(though what comes after has not), so I wont go a massive(just a small) tirade about it, I just wanted to warn people. If there is a sexy demon lady who has tried to kill us multiple times appears in the story, would you want to sleep with here because it would be awesome? What if it would get you some demonic influence too? And if she was smoking hot, it would be totally understandable to have an unstoppable desire to sleep with her? I mean, Emile is only human,right?
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>>4371504
I wish my option lost. Forgotten just shoved his preferred option down our throat instead rather than break the tie with a roll.

>>4371508
None of that shit matters. Change her pussy to a dick and it would've 100% won. I would've bet my life on it. It would've won a sit currently were if Forgotten didn't put a contentious vote during the start of the thread.
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>>4371511
We've had a few on again off again discussions about the merits of trying to tie up Frida. Partially in jest, but there's a (possibly small) sentiment that she's a good foil for Emile who is hampered at social situations and needs someone like his sister to watch his back (see most of the male interactions at the ball)
I don't blame that at all for pulling the trigger when they have the chance, even if I like other potential waifus more.
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>>4371495
Why are you so mad? just go play another quest faggot.
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>>4371507
ahh I should have moved the hurricane dammit

>>4371511
I know we're probably still going to disagree anon but I just want to reiterate that that everything you've said is part of the appeal, potential corruption included weither it plays out of not.

also everything >>4371520 highlighted
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Frida is the perfect intrigue foil to Emile's martial build, she could actually protect us in the courts whilst we gallivant around doing real knigga shit.
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Now that I think about it it could be interesting if interaction with Frida and shenanigans on the inquires would turn our boy into cynic. It would make for interesting relationship with angel definitly
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>>4371511
>f there is a sexy demon lady who has tried to kill us multiple times appears in the story, would you want to sleep with here because it would be awesome? What if it would get you some demonic influence too? And if she was smoking hot, it would be totally understandable to have an unstoppable desire to sleep with her? I mean, Emile is only human,right?

Imagine if one of the Sons of Sin is a literal succubus. Fuck Emile would be absolutely doomed and it would be glorious.
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>>4371520
I just dont want anons to make choices that will clearly have several negative ramifications down the line and then decide to vote for more of them because "doing stupid things and letting emotion control has clear precedent" despite the fact that Emile has shown FAR MORE times to be in control of himself. We have been pissed, but controlled ourselves, a glamor attempted to fuck us over, but we broke it(the angel helped, but didnt manifest, so we did most of the work). The only big willpower issue we had was that crit fail with Anarchy, and considering friends were killing friends because of that guy, I cant blame Emile.
All I ask is for anons to THINK if this would fit the Emile we have grown to know and if it will end well. We will have to slog thru plenty of shit without us trying to make thigs more interesting. And just because we have chosen this path, does not mean we cant jump of it. Moments of retarded passion cannot exist perpetually, so all it could take is her telling us to fuck over one of our friends or do something that goes against our vows or principles, and she is out on her ass.
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>>4371526
Cheers.
>>4371527
One of the more interesting reads I'm picking up is that both Frida and Emile seem to be prone to action rather than scheming or measuring opponents. Not that they can't do both, but Frida seems more likely to put together a quick, cutting remark as compared to Ros going out and destroying someone's credibility.

It's kind of neat to think of them as an aggressive pair.

>>4371531
The only way to know is to try, and Emile isn't completely committed anyway. Jumping off is a viable option, but keeping the Vancewell heiress in good graces is also an extra card to play later on, regardless of romance.
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>>4371529
>>4371526
So...because something is more interesting/funny/lol epic, we should turn the quest down the path full of thorns and brambles, without even knowing if there is a benefit at the end.
And no, Emile would not be doomed because of a succubus. We failed 1 will check(a crit, but still only 1) and we also have an angel in our noggin now. Why do anons seem to think that Emile's pockets will projectile vomit spaghetti around any seductive woman? OR is it just because of the vote that we had that we are going to alter Emile's personality?
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>>4371537
From now on, I'll vote for the choices that are the most likely to get Emile killed without giving a single thought to what is in-character for him.
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>>4371542
I hope Forgotten bans you from voting
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>>4371536
As I said, I know the vote is set and I will do my best to help us actually think about our decisions going forward.However, if she is showing signs she will not stop being a bitch(not a good fit for kind-hearted Emile, no matter how seductive) or, Almighty preserve us, she is showing signs of corrupting us, we would need to pull the plug and dump the bitch. And that is IF we continue down the courtship trail after this.
>>4371543
As long as we reason out the options and realize that one or two of the will be the equivalent of french kissing an undead, we should be fine.
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>>4371542
XD imagine live of this loser
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>>4371542
If you hate the QM and players so much why are you even here you salty fuck
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I have been typing up this update, hence my lack of response. I don't think I should have to play referee, I'm not going to bother addressing this last shitfight.

>>4371542
If you're being serious I don't understand why you would continue to participate. Let alone why any sane QM would count your votes.
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>>4371550
You're too good for us Forgotten.

I was half afraid the shitstorm would have kept you from writing the updates today.
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>>4371527
>Emille is just continues being a righteous Knigga while Frida operates the estate/duchy/whatever

truely a Romanie couple if there was ever one

>>4371537
The addage ''its about the journey, not the destination'' is applicable here the story of Emille doesn't have to be about success although we all would like it to be it can just as much be about his failings.

This road to Vancewell could be thorny but it also doesn't have to be but we shouldn't discard any option because we think it won't end well.

except for death by snek fuck sneks
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>>4371543
Why? Because I'll vote for choices without giving a thought about what is in-character for Emile? He'll have to ban many of his playerbase then because they do that too. Or is it because I'll vote for the choices that are the most likely to lead to his death? He'll have to ban many of his playerbase then because they do that too.

>>4371550
I'm 100% serious. If you're not going to count my votes, then go on mate. I have a dynamic id.
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Tracker Jean lived so that we could commiserate about how much we both hate snakes together.
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>>4371566
lol
you are a twat

but you also have a point
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>>4371566
>imagine being this salty over a 4chan quest
>livingthegoodlife.jpeg

>>4371550
Thanks Forgotten

On a completely seperate note, I just re-read the ending to BCQ. Man, shit got so dark towards the end...ending was dark as well.

100% not the feel good quest of the year. Great journey though.

Still sad that we never made it work with the Captain
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>>4371562
The destination matters when we still have a place to travel to afterwards, thus making it another part of the journey. And the journey of Vancewell courtship will almost certainly involve more and more unsavory decision to maintain her interest. As has been made abundantly clear, she is not a good person. So unless we could make her a better person, we will keep inevitably stepping in shit, unless we are repeatedly lucky, and when we do step in shit , Vancewell will be more and more likely to throw us to the dogs.
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>>4371567
amen
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>>4371571
I really wish he didnt.
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>>4371573
>And the journey of Vancewell courtship will almost certainly involve more and more unsavory decision to maintain her interest.

It could but we could also reject that in so far typical Emille fashion and do things ''the better way''
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>>4371589
That can work, upuntil what she wants is the unsavory thing itself, rather than a means to an end. If not , we could do something else and get good explanation rolls. If the unsavory thing is mandatory, it will be much harder to stay in her good graces.
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>>4371593
Well then the journey and choices will be interesting indeed then anon, we can always abandon the route if its too much for Emille or we could stay for the fireworks one way or another.
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The Ballroom: Bishop Dominos Gilbern [Persuade]
>1 Success: The Bishop believes the story of your pilgrimage vigils and latest trial by lightning, but remains suspicious of the far more unusual claim of divine contact. The question of whether there will be any inquiry into your other claims at all is thrown into doubt by Church bureaucracy, and could take years before you are called to give further evidence, but at least your Recorded Miracle stands.

“I must say, my son, tales of your exploits have already reached my ears. It is always encouraging to see young men take their faith seriously, a sadly rarer and rarer occurrence than it was in my day.” His Holiness Bishop Dominos Gilbern is a severe looking man, wearing the same cool expression of his second-cousin Sir Robert Gilbern as he converses with you. “Monsignor dan Esposito’s report affirmed much of these tales, especially your impressive feat during our Lighthouse Vigil, though he was of two minds regarding the veracity of your… other experiences.”

“If His Holiness is referring to the visions…” You begin.

“Hush, my son. Not here.” The Bishop looks around, but no one appears to have heard you. “Have no fear, my son, I have been giving that a great deal of thought. The truth is the most important thing here. After all, what is the purpose of our Faith if not to seek out the truth?”

The Bishop nods sagely and continues speaking, his question was obviously rhetorical.

“This inquiry must be held properly, or not at all. I will have to confer with my peers, the other Bishops and Abbesses, on how to best proceed with such a significant claim. We will have to consult experts, exchange correspondence, arrange convocations. There is also the matter of going through the proper channels regarding your… ‘unique’ dispensation from the Ordo Reginate. All of this will take time, you understand?”

“Of course, Your Holiness.” Your heart sinks, you can see where this is going. You had hoped… bah. “But my upcoming testimony…”

[1/9]
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“Best for that to be delayed for now, my son. At this point anything said out of the most controlled auspices of the inquiry would only add fuel to the first.” The Bishop’s words come across as a suggestion, but his tone implies a more forceful directive to remain silent. “Your detractors might try to undermine the authenticity of your claims by painting you as a mouthpiece of the Reclaimants. That’s not my opinion of course, my son, but it’s better to have the Holy Church united in any findings, isn’t it?”

"Yes, Your Holiness." You don’t see much wisdom in disagree with His Holiness, but you are somewhat discouraged to see that Father Towbray’s critical view of the Holy Church as a political institution to be proven right.

You realise, with a worrying internal reflection, that this is the first time you have ever come to the conclusion that a man of the cloth was being dishonest, if not outright lying. And not just any priest, this is the Bishop of Pascae, an ecclesiarch on par with the highest religious authorities in all of Cantôn just below the Queen, Mater Reginae herself.
Furthermore, what if His Holiness is right? Would your own trusted confessor Father Towbray even consider using your divine guidance to bolster the position of the Reclaimants? Would he possibly think it was his religious duty to do so? The Angel cannot have come to you for no significant reason, or even to benefit solely yourself. It feels dirty, to sully the purity of Heaven’s Guidance with mortal considerations and earthly concerns. Your mind is already troubled with these burdensome thoughts when you meet the Prince, and you find yourself ill-prepared for that encounter…

[2/9]
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>>4371601
>the Reclaimants.

Forgotten these are a sect of Cainites right? of so theirs an interesting split in the church right there.
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Ballroom: Crown Prince Lionel Aubres [Persuade]
>0 Success: You are viewed not just as an obstacle but a potential threat. The Crown Prince’s instincts and information network is terrifying to be the target of. He is intimately aware of your exploits. Impossibly so, in fact. To the point that you suspect there is an informer in your closest circles, how else could he know such things given the lengths you took to prevent discovery of your deeds?

Crown Prince Lionel Aubres is the very image of dashing young royalty, sharing his sister’s dark brown hair and piercing green eyes. You are struck by the intensity of his gaze, in a way that you never were by his father the King’s appearance. You were awestruck by King Jean, of course, but the aura of command of sheer unspoken power by his son is in stark contrast to the affable and comradely nature of the current bearer of the Crown. When you kneel at the Crown Prince’s feet, as demanded by court etiquette, he does not bid you rise.

“Sir Emile Andrei.” Behind the Prince, lurking in the corner, his giant red-armoured bodyguard shifts at your approach. “Hold, Sanguine. This won’t take long.”

“My sister is one thing, but I’m surprised that you would be so bold as to approach me. Did you come here hoping to gain the measure of your opponent? You will find yourself sorely disappointed.”

“Your Highness, I would certainly never consider myself an opponent of my future liegelord and King. I only meant to introduce myself-”

“What need of introductions? I feel as if I know you intimately already. I know you served in the Knights Comitas eastern watchhouse near Ardenne. I know that you are on pilgrimage, not a bad cover story for extracting your brother from his predicament. I know that you have nightmares. That what happened to you in the darkest reaches of the woods plagues you day and night. I know what you know, or rather what you think you know, that truly happened in a place that both Duke and Queen will deny even exists. And I know that you hear voices.”

It is like a trapdoor at the gallows has swung open beneath you. Noise and chatter from the Ball fades into nothingness as the entire world shrinks down to you, the tiles you kneel on He knows. He knows everything! How does he know? Howhowhow-

[3/9]
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“But what is knowing a man without knowing those around him? I know your little friend Sir Glasdale has taken up with some peasant wench. I know Sir Gilbern hopes you will help him with Mother’s problems at the Cathagi Court. I know that Sir Norwache has too many masters, and Sir Rabe too few. I know your peasant squire dreams of earning his spurs in the Roiguard one day, though I suppose that’s hardly a stunning deduction. I know your sister is tying her own noose, you should ask her what I mean. I know that your confessor hasn’t told you that his previous parish was a chapel only a day’s ride from Castle Vancewell.”

Prince Lionel does not sneer cruelly at your speechlessness, nor does he crow his advantage over you like some adolescent farmhand bully. Instead he nods resignedly, like a master swordsman who had been challenged by someone far beneath his skill. His eyes could almost be pitying, if they were not so utterly devoid of mercy or hesitation.

“Surprised? Of course, you had thought your secrets safe. Everyone does. You are far too trusting in your fellow man, Sir Andrei, and that will be your downfall. Consider, before you ever so much as piss against a wall in the future, that I know. And then think upon who I am, who I am destined to be, and all that I can do with what I know…”

“Your Highness…” Beads of sweat trickle down the back of your neck, your hands shake as you stare at the tiled floor at the Prince’s feet. You struggle to find the right words in response, what in the Pit to you say to that? “Your Highness, I- … saying all of this… what does Your Highness hope to achieve?”

“What do I hope to achieve? What do I want? Such a droll question. What any right-thinking Cantônian wants, of course. A stronger Cantôn.” The Prince flicks a hand and leans back in his chair, dismissing you from his presence. “But for now, I want you to leave. Leave this party, leave this Duchy, sail away from my kingdom across the seas to Cathagi like you plan.”

Many attendants noted that the Prince dismissed you from his presence without bidding you to rise. But no one aside from yourself, the Prince and his looming guardian were privy to the things said here. Nonetheless Prince Lionel’s parting words seem to echo in your ears as you slink away…

“And if you have the slightest bit of sense, I suggest you stay there.”

[4/9]
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Ballroom: Duke Leonardo Pascae [Persuade]
> 2 Success: You reaffirm your initial good impression, and many take note of the good graces the Duke holds you in. You determine what the other major players are after here, but not whether the Duke Pascae will oblige them.

“I knew you weren’t just a pretty face!” The well-groomed and perfectly manicured Duke Leonardo Pascae beams at your titillating conversation and gestures for you to take a seat near the head of his table. “Come sit, my darling knight. I simply must thank you for introducing that exotic oddity, the Patrikas. We had a positively enlightening discussion…”

Your sister Roselyn gives you an approving nod from the sidelines, she is far from the only one present in the Ballroom who has noticed how long the Duke has kept you in his presence. It is a great breakthrough to not just be in the Duke’s high regard but to be known in the Duke’s high regard, if Young Lord Damien Andrei was truly not welcome at court then the Duke wouldn’t be seen affiliating with a member of his family that arrived with him.

But it swiftly becomes apparent to you that Damien’s return to court is a very minor affair in the scale of things tonight, there are events in motion that could very well determine the course of the continent.

“Another glass of wine for both of us, my dove.” The Duke smiles at his chisselled white-robed bodyguard as he pours, before turning to you and whispering conspiratorially. “It is these earthly delights we must live for, after all we have such a short tenure on this mortal plane. Shorter still, if some have their way. Shorter… but perhaps also more exciting! My realm is one that lives in the now, the hustle-and-bustle as I’m told the common man says. ‘Hustle-and-bustle’, what a delightful phrase!”

“Shorter if some have their way, Your Grace?” A knight’s errantry is exciting and potentially short-lived, but you infer that this is not what the Duke Pascae meant.

“We all want a stronger Cantôn, of course. To some that means stronger Duchies, mighty lands able to carve out their own destiny. To others that means a stronger kingdom at the very centre… or perhaps just a stronger king. But it all comes down to the same thing in the end. Money, where it flows from and who it flows to. Oh but I wouldn’t worry your pretty head about all of this, my darling.” The Duke Leonardo smiles and indicates you may now leave his presence. “The great game must go on, after all..”

[5/9]
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How the fuck
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Good christ.

This is far too comprehensive of a single informant and more indicative of a massive information web.

At this point, im almost inclined to bend the knee.
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Ballroom: Lord Caspian Gilbern [Counter-Intrigue]
>3 Success: Drain the swamp. Lord Gilbern’s house of cards is about collapse entirely, the investigation regarding the ledger is going to completely upend the careful balance of favours and blackmail he has so carefully nurtured. And there is nothing he can do about it.
>Double Pass: Family affairs. Sir Gilbern’s alarm bells are still ringing. But he enjoyed watching this.

“Sir Emile Andrei? A moment if you please.” This oily, silver-haired debonair lurking by the Duke Pascae’s seat could only be Lord Caspian Gilbern. “Troubling news has reach my ears. An unauthorised trespass onto private property was conducted in the early hours of this morning. Citizens were assaulted, property damaged. The Ordo Praetor was overseeing this well-meaning oversight but it was the City Guards who obviously carried it out, so of course it falls to the authorities of this city to review the evidence.”

Lord Gilbern’s words are audible enough to be heard by several onlookers, he clearly wants this conversation to be public knowledge. You have some idea of what the Lord-Protector of Port Bounty is seeking from this conversation, and you move quickly to shut down any possible attempt to wrest some advantage to himself.

“I have here a list of charges regarding your conduct by the Nightwatch. All misunderstandings, I am sure. We can forgive your unofficial vigilantism, of course. Assuming you cooperate...”

[6/9]
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>>4371613
There is no fucking way there's a mortal spy for him he know TOO much we haven't told anyone all of this fuck we've told people nothing of some of it.
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“Your Lordship is misinformed. The unofficial nature of my involvement in the investigation and was sanctioned by the Praetor Primus after the fact.”

“But the ledger-“

“Is in the hands of the Ordo Praetor.” You state boldly, several nobles in the nearby crowd exchange glances. “Where it will remain.”

“There are sensitive matters at play here! An outsider like you cannot possibly-“

“Understand? No, perhaps not. But then again, I am not the one running the investigation. The Praetor Primus is currently reviewing the evidence and taking statements. Praetor Primus Holt has been stationed her for many years, has he not? That’s all I can comment on an ongoing investigation, you will have to direct any further questions to his office.”

It is exceedingly rude for you to depart from a social superior’s presence without being granted leave, but you cannot stand another moment in the oily old man’s presence. Besides, the damage is done. Lord Caspian Gilbern stands stock still in the Ballroom, whispers and subtle gestures abound. He looks increasingly alone as powerful attendees give him a wide berth.

As you make to leave the Ballroom you notice Sir Robert Gilbern leaning against a dooryway, he raises a glass to you in salute. An encouraging sign. You know Sir Gilbern to be a man willing to take some harsh measures in the name of the greater good, even if he shirked at it and objected in private. Perhaps the methods and measures taken by his Lord Father so that the rich and powerful of Pascae could continue to be rich and powerful was at the root of their falling out. Or perhaps it was not the measures he had issue with, merely whether whether the results benefited oneself or the good of the realm.

You do not believe you have won back your friends trust, nor demonstrated your pure intentions. But it is a start. And, if nothing else, it’s an opening for you to attempt to reconcile with the Second Herald again.

[7/9]
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>>4371606
>>4371609
If the King underestimates the Pawn, he has already lost/ considering the waves we have made even unintentionally, he is being rather foolish to dismiss us like that. And as for the stuff he knows...many of them could be found out via separate digging.Actually, from what I see, all of what he said could have been discovered by looking in to multiple matters surrounding us rather than from a single major source. It doesn't mean he doesn't have one, but one of the schools of though on intrigue is letting your opponents think you know more than you actually do. I refuse to be cowed by him, and he should be more worried about us.We shouldn't go against him, but nor will we bend the knee.
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It is about time you left, the hour draws late and you honestly would not stay here a moment longer even if the night had just begun. You are still considering the chilling words of the Crown Prince as you look for your siblings and the Patrikas when you are forestalled.

According to social convention, the only armed men allowed on the premises are those wearing the Duke Pascae’s colours. And those in the Duke’s livery are more there for display than protection. Even the Duke Montbrun must be content with surrounding himself with heavy set guests with watchful eyes barring the way of any would-be assassins. He is far from the only one with a guest doubling as an escort, you yourself having been playing that role for the Patrikas this evening. In a room of hundreds, there is only two exceptions to this rule. The Roiguard detachment charged with protecting the Princess and the Crown Prince’s sworn Guard of the Body.

You had seen the red giant once before, after standing your vigil in the Church of Adam’s Martyrdom. He had seemed a colossus then and neither the passing months nor your increased experience has made him appear any less imposing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8WGNNA6TH0 – You never left those damned ruins…

The lance of pain through your skull is both sudden and shocking in its intensity. You clasp a hand to your forehead, it feels as though a red hot needle was being driven through your mind. Sharp, metallic and bewildering. Markedly different from the addling bloodlust you experienced in the catacombs, like a drunkard deep in his cups. And yet somehow similar, like how different dish from the same kitchen has a likeness to the others.

As the giant in blood-red armour steps closer, heavy sabatons clanking on the polished floor, you struggle not to be violently sick.

“I AM…”

[8/9]
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>>4371620
Chad!
I agree entirely with your statement, though I think the Prince is **explicity** measuring our worth, not underestimating us
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>>4371622
ANARCHY
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[9/9]

“I am…” You blink at the proffered gauntlet, the throbbing in your head dissipating as quickly as it had appeared. “…pleased to make your acquaintance, Sir Andrei.”

Instilled convention and a proper upbringing spurs you to shake the giant’s hand out of sheer habit. No Pit-black flames or violent urges erupt from the exchange, though your hand comes back surprisingly cool from the cold steel gauntlet. The stress of your recent interactions, the pressures of the rich and powerful, you must have imagined…

“It appears that you have the better of me, Sir…?”

“Only because your reputation precedes you.” The giant is surprisingly soft-spoken, and polite to a fault. “ What people call me changes with the tides. I am known now as the Paladin Sanguine, the Knight in Red, the Crimson Chevalier. Though I have gone by other names…”

“The Paladin Sanguine, like the disciples of Saint Cain in his pit-fighter days?”

“Call it an ohmage, of sorts.” The Knight in Red shifts, ignoring the rather presumptive moniker he has adopted. “My Master has had his eye on you, of late.”

“Your master, the Prince?” You glance sideways at the giant knight’s charge, nodding disinterestedly at someone the Duke Montbrun was introducing.

“We all serve someone. After all it is written, ‘Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.’ Wise words indeed, no?“ You have the distinct impression that the Paladin Sanguine is smiling at you behind his crimson visor. “You will have to forgive the Prince for his… enthusiasm. Each new ally bought or bargained for draws out twice as many enemies, sucking at the teat of potential wealth and power. He does not see you as I see you. He does not see what you could be…”

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> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]

> “Is it true that you never take your helmet off? What are you?” You have heard of the Knight in Red, bits and pieces. The man is surrounded by rumour. High in Royal Favour but virtually unknown at court. [Hearty]

> “Even a Pitfiends can quote scripture. I bid you good evening, Sir Sanguine.” You do not trust this man. You will not talk with him any longer than you have to. You make your excuses and leave. And live. [Idealist]
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>>4371609
>I know that your confessor hasn’t told you that his previous parish was a chapel only a day’s ride from Castle Vancewell
That's that good shit...
>>4371612
>>4371613
>>4371616
>>4371622
Fucking SOS bullshit!
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>>4371622
Oh shit
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>>4371622
fuck, sombody look up the names of the other Sons of Sin noooOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW!
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>>4371626
agony
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>>4371627
aaaaa fuck.
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>>4371627
> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
> “Even a Pitfiends can quote scripture. I bid you good evening, Sir Sanguine.” You do not trust this man. You will not talk with him any longer than you have to. You make your excuses and leave. And live. [Idealist]
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>>4371627
>> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]

HOLY SHIT. I knew he was a SOS!!! I completely did not see him approaching us here and now though jesus
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>>4371627
>> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
Gimme that sweet plot hook, Forgotten.
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>>4371631
>AVARICE
>AGONY
>ANARCHY
>ABYSSAL
>ATROCITY
>ANGUISH
>ADVERSARY
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>>4371627
>> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
This is a bad idea but on the other hand AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I need to know
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>>4371627
> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
After our intimate moment with Anarchy, I don't think we can just drop this. Also....if Adam and Cain were counted amongst the Sons of Sin, could he be...perhaps not,but maybe there are other ways to be connected to the Power of Sin without being a son of whatever it is. Regardless, we NEED to know.
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>>4371627
> “Even a Pitfiend can quote scripture. I bid you good evening, Sir Sanguine.” You do not trust this man. You will not talk with him any longer than you have to. You make your excuses and leave. And live. [Idealist]
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>>4371627
>Is it true that you never take your helmet off? What are you?” You have heard of the Knight in Red, bits and pieces. The man is surrounded by rumour. High in Royal Favour but virtually unknown at court. [Hearty]

Haughty takes us down a dark path anons

We are NOT becoming Prince again.

He sacrificed everything for the Company in his pact with the darkness - never again.
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>>4371631
AVARICE
AGONY
ANARCHY
ABYSSAL
ATROCITY
ANGUISH
ADVERSARY

Oh god. Its Agony. I did not fucking realise they could masquerade as a normal person.

>>4371627
>> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
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>>4371643
Nah we don't have to go down that path but I have to know more both OOC and IC
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>>4371627
>> “Even a Pitfiends can quote scripture. I bid you good evening, Sir Sanguine.” You do not trust this man. You will not talk with him any longer than you have to. You make your excuses and leave. And live. [Idealist]
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>>4371627
> “Is it true that you never take your helmet off? What are you?” You have heard of the Knight in Red, bits and pieces. The man is surrounded by rumour. High in Royal Favour but virtually unknown at court. [Hearty]
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We need to quote a psalm back at him! Ideally referencing standing stalwart across a river like our dream.
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>>4371638
>Avarice

it could be given the Prince's ambition

>Agony

Personally not enough torture IMO

>Anarchy

Binded

>Abyssal

Their isn't an emptiness of anything...

>Atrocity

No massacares to our knowledge come the war though that may change

>Anguish

Again not enough suffering

>Adversary

Whats more sinister than an adversary thats a friend?
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>>4371627
>> “Is it true that you never take your helmet off? What are you?” You have heard of the Knight in Red, bits and pieces. The man is surrounded by rumour. High in Royal Favour but virtually unknown at court. [Hearty]

O boi. O fuck. There are seven of them and the're being used by the royals.
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>>4371650
Actually I really like that idea
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>>4371627
>“And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
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> He does not see you as I see you. He does not see what you could be…
Emile the Son of Sin sounds pretty bad, but we need to know more about this business. Learn more but stay steadfast, kniggas.

>>4371627
> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
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>>4371650
Add this to my vote.
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>>4371627
>> “Is it true that you never take your helmet off? What are you?” You have heard of the Knight in Red, bits and pieces. The man is surrounded by rumour. High in Royal Favour but virtually unknown at court. [Hearty]
I'm calling it. Sanguine is Adversary. There's no foe more dangerous than one wrapped in friendship.
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>>4371650
>See I can quote the book too

Support
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Quite clearly, the want to find out more reflects the latest changes since we first were mindfucked by his brother.

There is an answer to our doubts and a right answer at that. And for that we will have to ever seek the truth.

This also brings up a terrifying possibility. We saw when we looked into Anarchy's eyes. What if it went both ways. That when anarchy saw, his brothers saw too into the debts of our soul. We are our own greatest spy, the conduit merely stands beside the prince.
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>>4371659
thats a terrifying possibility holy fuck
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>>4371651

Anguish is Adam and Adversary is Cain, if you remember from the heretical passages.

>>4371627
>> “Is it true that you never take your helmet off? What are you?” You have heard of the Knight in Red, bits and pieces. The man is surrounded by rumour. High in Royal Favour but virtually unknown at court. [Hearty]

No matter what option wins, I do second quoting some scripture back at him.
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>>4371657
You really think Cain would do that? Just come back and hang around a Prince for the purposes of separating the wheat from the chaff?
Because I do
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>>4371659
So they all have different powers. Let's guess the others then.
>tfw getting stared into your soul.
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>>4371659
There are many terrifying possibilities, but if we worry about every one without evidence, it will wear our will down to nothing. We must stay strong.
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>>4371627
>> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
this is a terrible idea but i need to know more
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>>4371627
>> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
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>>4371661
The sons were forged seperately though unless you mean to say Adam and Cain were reforged.
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>>4371652
I thought that the last 2, Anguish and Adversary, were supposed to be Adam and Cain as the 6th and 7th sons. Unless this is actually Cain, then we have bigger problems.
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This has been such an exciting roller coaster of a thread. Like holy shit Forgotten
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>>4371669
Still leaves some others so let's guess those ones.
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oh fuck if the Prince knows what this ''paladin'' is then the prince is officially in on faction shit.
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>>4371669
It is.

AVARICE
AGONY
ANARCHY
ABYSSAL
ATROCITY
ANGUISH
ADVERSARY


X The Power of the Wild is broken at Motte-Fallavon.

XI Five Sons turn to Sin. The Sixth Son is Martyred.

XII The Seventh Son Reaps a Bloody Vengeance. Two Sins Are Chained, the Rest Scattered.

XIII The Seventh Son and his Ten Thousand Embark to Hunt the Remaining Sins.

Adam is anguish, Cain is Adversary.
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>>4371662
I remember Forgotten mentioning a legend in the north about some holy armor that possess the wearer or some such. It wasn't attributed to Cain or Adam, but it is an interesting thing ti think about.
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>>4371674
I think he absolutely knows and is trying to use it to his advantage
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>>4371622
>>4371623
>>4371627
Hahaha, I timed my post perfectly! "I am... CHAD!"
> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
I definitely support >>4371650, show him where our allegiance truly lies
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>>4371627
>> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
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>>4371675
Well... Don't wanna meet atrocity then because anarchy was brutal ngl.
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>>4371677
>>4371674
Be careful with that logic. Somebody probably knows, but they may have just pointed the Prince in the direction of Sanguine. The Queen, perhaps? Or someone else with intimate knowledge of the Church?
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>>4371677
Okay that knigga is being shown that this is not the way to do things, I dont care how much shit it takes that fools getting slapped back to reality.
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>>4371683
Anarchy was probably batshit crazy because that is what he was. The others could be more level headed. We just know so little. We cant assume to much or we will get blindsided.
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>>4371685
Queen is right out considering what they've done to Anarchy. Openly moving with a Son of Sin would be heretical enough to call down the full might of the ordos.
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>>4371627
>> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
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>>4371668

The heretical passages refer to Adam as the 'Sixth Son' and Cain as the 'Seventh Son'.

"VI The Sons Return from Exile, The Seventh Son is Crucified.

XI Five Sons turn to Sin. The Sixth Son is Martyred." - Heretical Passages

"6. The Sons Return from Exile, Cain is Crucified.

10. Adam is Martyred at the Hands of the Wild." - Orthodox Passages
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>>4371689
I know my knigga, but taking some safe guesses is possible. It's not a real answer, but it's a start.
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>>4371690
They bound them, true. Whos to say that they might not afterwards try to harness them?
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>>4371685
Why though? with that power he could easily threaten her monopoly its turns an ambitious but relatively weak king into a massive threat to Canton.

Not to mention her own order binded anarchy

>>4371689
Anarchys whole power was destructive Anarchy around him a whirlwind of human violence.

>>4371692
I keep missing that part of the passage dammit
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>>4371627
>> “Is it true that you never take your helmet off? What are you?” You have heard of the Knight in Red, bits and pieces. The man is surrounded by rumour. High in Royal Favour but virtually unknown at court. [Hearty]

I like the direct nature of this one. I am also down for counter quoting scripture. Maybe a callback to the angel helping us with the Fae Queen when she tried enchanting us.
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>>4371693
Im fine with guessing, as long as were are careful about how we act on our assumptions.
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>>4371669
What if this is actually Cain though? Like he actually fucking returned from his trip. If so this is way beyond our station.
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>>4371696
I didnt say it was likely, I was just giving an option.
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>>4371627
>> “Is it true that you never take your helmet off? What are you?” You have heard of the Knight in Red, bits and pieces. The man is surrounded by rumour. High in Royal Favour but virtually unknown at court. [Hearty]
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>>4371701
Thats fair it could be their was an oh shit moment after letting the Genie out of the bottle

oh man Emille is going to be a mess when he hooks up with Vancewell

>Gutpunch from the prince
>PTSD from SoS shit
>Alcohol
>Vancewell attraction

That booty call is going to be a mess of half a dozen conflicting emotions
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>>4371627
> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
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>>4371698
Fine with me my knigga.
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>>4371651
Atrocity, bathes in blood of newly raped people. Prince gets their gold.
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>>4371707
Maybe a fine distraction? Some things clear the mind or at least distract your thoughts.
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>>4371700
IF thats true why did he come back? why does he stink of SoS? and what does it mean?

>>4371712
Its going to be a distraction alright, I don't know if it will clear his head though.
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Wonder what the Prince meant by Ros tying her own noose. We really should ask her later.
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>>4371650
Replying to my own post, to expand I think we really need to get the dream in there, it was almost certainly a vision from the Angel and (From months ago memory) we chose to defend people by martyr’ing ourselves fighting the five brothers on the river.
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Well theres no appropriate verse that has been written for it. Perhaps this contribution then

>And "fare thee well brothers" they said as they stood their ground in the pass. "Once more shalt we meet, at your journey's end." For greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life in defence of another.

The inspiration being that it might be a verse from the breakout from Cathagi after being chased by the dragon's legions and a blocking force volunteered to hold a pass to allow the faithful to retreat. This would mean it would be from an earlier part of the book.
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>>4371717
Prince might be stirring the shit, might be better to not mention it to her.
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>>4371716
Well, he apparently left to stab the shit out of the nonbound Sons, so he could come back if they fled back here or the others broke free. Who knows, there could be other NOUNS OF SIN that we didnt read about.
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>>4371719
>we chose to defend people by martyr’ing ourselves fighting the five brothers on the river.
>Five brothers
>five
>7-2 is 5

Oh fuck its real

>>4371721
>>4371717
It could be real, it could be false we aren't loosing anything by asking particularly if Ros is possibly in danger.
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>>4371716
Maybe he thinks the degeneracy of Canton has gone too far? Perhaps draining the Canton swamp has become more urgent than whatever he was doing?
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I just woke up from my nap. I thought the hundreds of posts meant combat was in session but thankfully not.

>>4371627
>“Even a Pitfiends can quote scripture. I bid you good evening, Sir Sanguine.” You do not trust this man. You will not talk with him any longer than you have to. You make your excuses and leave. And live. [Idealist]

This is a Son of Sin. There's no doubt about it.

>The lance of pain through your skull is both sudden and shocking in its intensity. You clasp a hand to your forehead, it feels as though a red hot needle was being driven through your mind. Sharp, metallic and bewildering. Markedly different from the addling bloodlust you experienced in the catacombs, like a drunkard deep in his cups. And yet somehow similar, like how different dish from the same kitchen has a likeness to the others.

KNIGGAS BE CAREFUL! He's trying to mentally manipulate us and trick us with his SoS ability! It's likely his SoS ability is mind control just like how Anarchy's ability was making people lose their minds. Don't be fooled by him.
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>>4371719
>>4371725

The dream was about a horde of devils from the far south, not sure where you're getting the five brothers from.
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>>4371719
>>4371725

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/4021592/

Thread in question for you all to reread. Its not 5 certainly. Just a mass of monsters.
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>>4371609
Holy shit, who's this guy?
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>>4371078
>>4369598
This is me.
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>>4371725
Went back to look, it mentions 'a dozen horrors' whatever they are.
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There's no informer by the way. That was just Crown Prince Lionel Aubres trying to sow doubt and discord in our heart regarding our companions. He knows info that none of our companions could know about. He's definitely using Sanguine to gather information from people's minds.
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Note that Sanguine never explicitly said that his Master is the Prince. This could mean nothing, but perhaps the real puppetmaster is something far more sinister than a power-hungry prince.
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>>4371742
That was definitely my take on it
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Crown Prince Lionel Aubres having a SoS explains why his mother the Queen is engaged in a secret civil war with him. He deals with pitfiends, a blasphemous offence that is punishable by death. Emile the pious and devout knight is definitely his enemy now.
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>>4371733
>>4371734
>>4371739
I leapt to conclusions but some of that dream still feels incredibly omnious, nothing gets me shadowrunning like SoS shit

>“Sssson of Adamai. Ssssson of Cainan.” Their voices are eerily in unison, rusty steel scraping against whetstone. “Weeee haaavvvee waaiited ssssoooo looonggg foorrr annotherrr Disssciple tooo commmee tooo usss… “

>>4371742
Yeah pretty much my understanding of it, theirs something thats got its claws in the Prince's ambitions.
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>>4371733

Didn't you pay attention in the ruin. There are 7 brothers. Two of them are Adam and Cain. The other five are the fucked up ones or at the very least very fucking suspicious, except anarchy. F U C K A N A R C H Y.
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>>4371627
>> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
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Guys. Guys. Guys.
Merchant class in Catago is rising.
AVARICE.
Guys.
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>>4371747
I agree with that but I'd say it's also political as well. IMO the Prince's version of a 'stronger Canton' is full on absolute monarchy, which means curbing the powers of the Duke and the Church. Plus if you doubt that the Faith is truly real as seen by the Sons and those heretical images then you'd probably give even less of a crap about doing it.
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>>4371754
Ah that makes too much sense.

Fuck me. Do we need to fight and chain each and every one of these fuckers.
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>>4371707
It's going to be a wild night of passion for sure. Hopefully without a knife in the back by the end.
The bumbling bear cannot resist honeyed words.

>>4371733
Cathago is the south my dude. It's also where the brothers came from originally.
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>>4371754
Could be true, but still not enough info to make a full conclusion.
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>>4371740
I agree with this. Goddamnit, I was really right about Pit magic.

Possible interpretation of shadow civil war given current clues:

- Prince meets Sanguine (Avarice?) in some manner. Probably wants to free other SoS? Night of Three Sisters could be his doing or another Son's.
- Sanguine manipulates the inner ambition of the Prince. He starts to sway Kingsmen and other parties to support him as a stronger king (as mentioned by Leonardo); Pit magic and unsavory deals grant him more edge than he could have gotten otherwise.
- Queen (and other high ranking Queensmen) notice SoS influence. They can't do anything to SoS directly because Pit fuckery, they can't do anything to the Prince because that would mean revealing far too many truths so they resort to shadow games.

Again, this is just a theory. However, it sounds plausible.
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>>4371627
> “Even a Pitfiends can quote scripture. I bid you good evening, Sir Sanguine.” You do not trust this man. You will not talk with him any longer than you have to. You make your excuses and leave. And live. [Idealist]
I think this guy is Avarice. Which is why we shouldn't give in to the greed of learning more and nope the hell out.
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>>4371760
I think it's a safe assertion - why else would the merchante class be rising - and their ascent happens to coincide with the awakening of SoS? AVARICE has infiltrated Cathago and risen to power in that caste due to his nature - he makes more money by selling slaves to the Fraction in Canton in order to free more SoS.
We see clearly that Sanguine IS an SoS (personally, I think he's AGONY), so we know that not all of them are of unsound mind like ANARCHY.
How do we deal with AVARICE while in Cathago?
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I have archived this whirlwind of a thread here:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Sworn%20to%20Valour

I will not be able to update for the next couple of days, in fact I think I will only get one more content update in before I have to leave for this new job. I do intend to create another thread wrapping up things in Pascae before finishing the chapter on the boat (you called it) but right now I have no idea when that might be.

I hope you guys have enjoyed reading this thread, I have certainly enjoyed writing it! I especially appreciate these quality OC memes coming out of the woodworks.
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>>4371747
The Crown & Queens have been at each others throat on and off for a fucking while, both sides suffer from problems caused by the other their conflicts are natural

but this time will be worse if the SoS's and whatever master they have have their way

>>4371754
An investigation we'll need to make for sure though if it is then it would explain a few things like the Princes availability of Carthaggi mercenaries.

>>4371757
It's the right thing to do these thing are too damn destructive to be allowed to roam

>>4371759
I think the only knife thats on the table is the kind that won't murder us anon

fuck with the shit Emilles learning I'm pretty sure a night of passion is going to turn into a weekend sex binge, not that I'm complaining
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>>4371766
Cheers, good luck and happy trails, Forgotten. See you round the bend.
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>>4371765
>personally, I think he's AGONY

Yeah that's what I am thinking as well. Dealing with him is going to be a strugglefuck of a time

>>4371766
Thanks for sticking with it and churning out some incredible content. Good luck in the new job
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>>4371766
Always a pleasure. Have fun at your job my dude.
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>>4371766
Holy fuck I almost feel blueballed by that news Forgotten but this has been such a marvelous fucking ride I don't even care, Sincerly thank you for running from top to bottom this thread has been absolutely phenomenal.

>Tfw stuck on the Boat again
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>>4371720
I like that one.
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>>4371766
Take care of yourself boss. We'll see you when we get back.

And man I love that image.
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>>4371766
Thanks for running Forgotten. All the best with your new job!
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>>4371720
support holy fuck nothing better to respond with
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>>4371765
Perhaps we can look into the sliver chain we have, and see if there is somewhere we can get more of it.
Then bind Avarice with it, and dump him in a hole somewhere.
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>>4371766
Cheers mate. See you in a couple of days.
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>>4371720
I dig it, supported
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>>4371750

I'm aware there's seven brothers, two of which are Adam and Cain, one of which, Anarchy, is definitely restrained and another is plausibly restrained. That leaves 3-4 SoS still running about, which still has nothing to do with the dream sequence we're referring to.

>>4371759

The dream took place near Cathago, the devils came from even further south than that.

>>4371720

Also supporting this.
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>>4371777
Checked
That's a good idea, but I think we need to take him down materially, strip him of his wealth and therefore power
Perhaps we get close to the Dragon and have him denounce the class somehow? We need to consult Ianthe on how best to do that
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>>4371766
Safe travels cousin Forgotten.
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Why are so many voting to let Sanguine charms us? He's a Son of Sin kniggas! He's trying to charm us and mind control us as we seen in the eighth part of the update here>>4371622. We've seen what Anarchy can do in the ruins. The Prince has sent him after us now that he views us as a potential threat.
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>>4371789
We trying to get more info. It's a big, juicy, fat plot hook and we're biting down hard. We MIGHT have to mentally resist him, but I think we can do it.
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>>4371789
>charms

Charm*
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>>4371792
Getting more info is not worth being mind controlled by a SoS with a charm. Not at all
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>>4371796
By default the sons of sin already have that ability. Only a strong will can counter that and since we did well enough against anarchy...
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>>4371796
Assuming that happens and we don't know that it will. We need more information, we're taking a risk to get it
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>>4371766
A parting gift for you may it save you from Drop bears turtlewolves and Sneks
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yyAgk9der4
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>>4371797
>since we did well enough against anarchy...

We got a critfail with Anarchy anon.

>>4371798
I'm sorry knigga, but no info is worth the risk of being mind controlled by a Son of Sin's charm.
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>>4371801
Welp I cast my vote and you cast yours and we'll see where the game takes us
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>>4371801
I mean the safe option would have been never to descend into that cursed catacombs in the first place but look where we are now.
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>>4371801
We also got a crit and so the arguement is countered.

No but seriously what I meant was the initial scene of carnage. Seeing that we met Sir Norwache cutting down a mad friend, we were well within its insidious sphere of mental influence and yet was able to make decisions instead of blindly chopping into the nearest body.
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>>4371789
Emile's already on dangerous footing after last night. Best to see what the big knigga wants before we head too far down his own road without knowing.

Or did you think the Death's Door activation for Damien was free? The piper's going to come calling eventually, and you're better knowing his fee.

>>4371767
Frida and Emile are going to destroy each other.
>>4371780
Dream logic didn't stipulate it was Cathago, only that the woman looked to be further south than they, and there were a number of devils besides. We'll know the vision when it's time, I trust.
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>>4371804
Anon, we faced Anarchy to save lives. Anarchy would've caused countless deaths if he managed to leave the ruins and reach an urban area due to his ability. This is not the same as that. Here, We're not fighting a SoS or saving lives. We're giving a Son of Sin a chance to brainwash us just get info, not to save lives. If we're really that thirsty for more info, then we can just ask the Dragon once we've arrived to Cathago.

>>4371805
Yes, but the crit was for kamikazing him. The critfail was for the will test.

>>4371807
Just because Emile was on dangerous footing last night doesn't he should be on even more dangerous footing with a SoS today.
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>>4371822
>just get

Just to get*

>>4371832
No, you can't assert that. Emile's Hail Mary crit reduced Anarchy to more than half his health and helped massively in weakening him.It wasn't just Anarchy but everyone he was turning mad too that they're were up against. Anarchy would've had a very good chance of leaving the ruins if we hadn't intervened.
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>>4371822
Nah these were our choices to stay or go
> A terrible secret that the higher powers of the realm are willing to risk civil war over. You have to know. Even if it means walking into the mouth of the Pit itself. Even if it means doing so alone. [Haughty] + [Idealist]

> Some questions are better left unanswered. Some stories, better left untold. You back your way steadily up the stairs, barring the door behind you. You will not speak of this. [Hearty] + [Idealist]
People did it for the knowledge, the saving lives only came later.
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>>4371822
Having your eyes glow is generally not a sign you want to ignore. Emile might be oblivious to it but it would be better to get some idea of if that's SOS related or not. And this is about as close to even footing as we'll get with someone like Sanguine.
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>>4371627

> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
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>>4371837
>him.It

Him. It*

>>4371843
I'm not talking about going into the catacombs. I'm talking about facing him rather than leaving afterwards. We were to able to get knowledge without the risk of facing Anarchy. Here, we're standing face to face with a SoS and letting him have a shot at mind controlling just to see if we can get info out of him. Not worth it.

>>4371845
I'm sorry but that's not worth giving a SoS to mind control us with a charm. No info is.
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>>4371851
>giving a SoS to mind control us

Giving a SoS the opportunity to mind control us*
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>>4371851
If he wants to he can try mind controlling us already, there's no need to strike up a conversation with us in order to do it.
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>>4371859
That's because he has already begun trying to mind control us. See>>4371622

>The lance of pain through your skull is both sudden and shocking in its intensity. You clasp a hand to your forehead, it feels as though a red hot needle was being driven through your mind. Sharp, metallic and bewildering. Markedly different from the addling bloodlust you experienced in the catacombs, like a drunkard deep in his cups. And yet somehow similar, like how different dish from the same kitchen has a likeness to the others.

Anarchy needed to get real up and close to our face to mind rape us.
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>>4371609
>“But for now, I want you to leave. Leave this party, leave this Duchy, sail away from my kingdom across the seas to Cathagi like you plan.”

>“And if you have the slightest bit of sense, I suggest you stay there.”

Man, interacting with Crown Prince Lionel Aubres was a big mistake. I'm glad I didn't vote for it.

We'll need to lay low in Cathagi for a while.
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>>4371627

> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]

With the write-in bit of scripture here >>4371720


>And "fare thee well brothers" they said as they stood their ground in the pass. "Once more shalt we meet, at your journey's end." For greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life in defence of another.

>>4371766

Right on Forgotten, Hope that the new job goes well. So much upset and info this chapter, people are going to be spinning non-stop for a while with all this going on.
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>>4371720
Supporting this if the choice to let Sanguine try to mind control us in exchange of possible wins. I hope it helps us.
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>>4371627
Lurker here.

First an observation; The prince made no mention of our Fae companion even though that is very juicy compared to some of the things he brought up. A few members of our inner circle know about her though. Either the Prince perceived our history through magic (and the glamour / ritual she was put through hides her) or the traitor doesn't know about her. Either way we can probably mark some people in our circle (those who know of her) as trustworthy.

The bigger point:

Out of AVARICE, AGONY, ABYSSAL and ATROCITY I think this is very likely to be AGONY.

This is our initial reaction to ANARCHY:
"You recoil as if the voice itself had dragged razors across your neck and spine. You feel the sudden, murderous urge to kill." No explicit mention of pain, just a horrible feeling (albeit associated with something painful, I admit)

While here it is "The lance of pain through your skull is both sudden and shocking in its intensity."
It might seem too simple to just draw the 'you feel pain => this is agony' conclusion but there is on more thing we know.

We know that AGONY is still active in this world. In the order of names' ledgers we found this excerpt (from many decades ago):

"We came across another Son of Sin, this time we were not taken by surprise and challenged him on the road. Of our remaining party of eight, including three anointed knights, only I survive to report this. He, or rather IT, said the same thing over again as butchered us. ‘I AM AGONY’."

I do not think this is a coincidence.

So what do we do? First of all hope we're carrying the silver chain link from our last encounter with a SoS. If so I'd clutch it tighter than pearls at a conservative convention held in a low-income neighborhood.

I'd also like a to suggest a write in:

We quote a piece of Scripture back at him, containing the word Agony. If Forgotten hasn't written up a Bible yet it's up to us to come up with it. I imagine the verse following Chapter 1, verse LX very well might be one refering to Agony given the previous mention of lashings. Maybe a slightly adjusted Romans 8:18?

>"'Chapter 1, Verse 61: Yet the Agony of this present time is not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.' How -do- you see me, Sanguine?"

This can be interpreted two ways: He is going to reveal glory to us - or he is nothing compared to the glory of god.
It'd hopefully serve to goad him into revealing more while (along with the silver chain) helping to gird us against any potential influence.
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>>4371883
>First an observation; The prince made no mention of our Fae companion even though that is very juicy compared to some of the things he brought up. A few members of our inner circle know about her though. Either the Prince perceived our history through magic (and the glamour / ritual she was put through hides her)

Holy crap, good catch anon. Looks like her glamour really is some amazing stuff. Using the favour for the ritual was worth it then.
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>>4371864
Hopefully these sick write ins, and a mix of the Silver Chain and anti-magic Bear Totem help with any psychic whammy that come our way
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>>4371891
Keep in mind that our path points will affect it too. The more Adam and Cain path points we have, the easier it'll be. The more Thorns path points we have, the harder it'll be.
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>>4371883
I'm changing my vote to back this
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>>4371667
>>4371627
>>4371901
Votechange
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>>4371877

Swapping he write-in scripture to the one proposed here. >>4371883

>"'Chapter 1, Verse 61: Yet the Agony of this present time is not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.' How -do- you see me, Sanguine?"
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>>4371627

> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]

Guse we are harry potter now with been able to sinse sos nearby. But which one as his still can act normal and turn off the aura.

Wounder if his cain since his useing his pit fighting name.
Since sos are almost immortal.

Guse the Prince is looking to become king very soon and use the son of sin as a war wepon to power up his amy.

We going to need to have a talk with our sister, the prist and the rest of our company.

>>4369567
This is me;
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>>4371550
and to think i just bragged in an other quest about how long it's been since we had a shitfight.
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>>4371883
This is a fantastic write in. I still want to mention the river though. Maybe a throwaway line in the back and when speaking to him, just to see if he reacts to it.
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>>4371883
Not sure if anyone else picked it up. But the Cromaon Chevalier said “we all serve someone” when asked if he served the prince. He dodged the question. He doesn’t serve the prince but he does serve someone. A hierarchy in the SoS, or someone else?
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>>4371627
>> “A most unfortunate circumstance to be sure, maybe another approach would make less enemies. I bid you good evening, Sir Sanguine.” You do not trust this man. You will not talk with him any longer than you have to. You make your excuses and leave. And live. [Write-in Idealist]
Do not shit talk the SoS to his face. on the up side we now know for sure that he is a SoS.
>>4371651
>>4371710
>Atrocity, bathes in blood of newly raped people. Prince gets their gold.
Sanguine is defined as either blood-red or "optimistic or positive, especially in an apparently bad or difficult situation" But since positivity doesn't seem like a SoS quality, the former seems the most likely interpretation.
although the double meaning and the positive aspects of Anguish and Adversary could mean that the SoS have a duality to them. Like Adam/Anguish both endurers anguish for his new realm and deals it out.
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Btw, booty call bad idea. Were gonna cum inside and father bastard twins or sth.
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Yo, kniggas. Fuck that shit. Take whole family on vacation to dragon palace let the shit settle back home then come back to whatever is still standing.
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>>4372047
Things we should definitely do after the party
1. Drop of the coin as evidence
2. Talk with our sister about what prince told us
3. Spill the beans to Sir Robert Gilbern about everything. Have with him our mini inquiry.
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>>4372048
>3. Spill the beans to Sir Robert Gilbern about everything. Have with him our mini inquiry.

Like it or not we are in deep shit. We are not in faction of our own we need swear allegiance to protect ourselves and our family.
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>>4372048
I'm all for a mini inquiry with Gilbern, if only to clear the air between us and align our goals. He's also really the only other person we can talk to besides Lord Alexandi, who will probably be there, to sort out this info about all of this SOS stuff. It's sort of sitting in Emile's mind festering since we have to keep silent about it.
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>>4371740
>There's no informer by the way.
It doesn’t hurt to ask our followers some pointed questions after this.

Nothing accusatory, just a request for more info.

We should 100% mention it to our sister as well
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>>4371883
Kino, supporting
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>>4371609
>“What do I hope to achieve? What do I want? Such a droll question. What any right-thinking Cantônian wants, of course. A stronger Cantôn.” The Prince flicks a hand and leans back in his chair, dismissing you from his presence. “But for now, I want you to leave. Leave this party, leave this Duchy, sail away from my kingdom across the seas to Cathagi like you plan.”

I'm not sure if this is double bluff to keep us away from Cathagi.
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>>4371883
Continued from here

>>4372076
I largely agree with you here.

>>4372076
But also agree with you on what we should do. TLDR #2 Incoming.

As I mentioned in my previous post the prince did not mention our Fae hireling at all. Given how juicy that is compared to the rest of the things he says about our companions I'd guess he doesn't know. This gives us a thread from which we can unwind this mess. Who knows about Jess being Fae?

Pretty much everyone at the Fae banquet.
The bluejays, at least Sam Wyte and Lilac Widow - lol @ them spying for the prince though
Lord Damien Andrei - lol @ our brother betraying us though
The hired blade, Orin (We had a malus for our Fae companion in a later discussion so he definitely would've sqealed about it)
Sir Neil dan Marc (See above)
Mikail

Because of this I'd be willing to bet hard that none of these betrayed us.
A question to forgotten though: We see Jess with her mask on whenever she's mentioned. I assume others don't? Or do they see a human girl with a mask? Do we know?


Remaining people of interest
Sister Ignatius - Not very knowledgeable about us, I feel. Willing to give her a pass.
Father Towbray - Our confessor, so juicy target. It feels very out of character unless there is some deep lore regarding the Reclaimant faction that I've missed.

Sir Norwache
+ “I’m tired of serving masters that look to their own interests first, before their people and Duchy.”
+ Gave us a correct tip in the duel
+ We have a +20DC bonus to win his trust in the future. Implies that there is trust to win. (META)
- At least was a part of the prince faction
- Knows we fought anarchy.
- We accidentally let slip our involvement in the Vancewell business to him. (Public knowledge really, we were a witness at the trial)

[1/3?]
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>>4372100
Cont.


Picking apart what the prince revealed

"I know your sister is tying her own noose, you should ask her what I mean".
Interesting, but keeping tabs on our sister is something you'd expect from a man as knowledgeable as him. We should talk to our sister though.

"I know your peasant squire dreams of earning his spurs in the Roiguard one day, though I suppose that’s hardly a stunning deduction."
I imagine this is public knowledge. Shows his thoroughness.

"I know you served in the Knights Comitas eastern watchhouse near Ardenne."
Public knowledge, but it indicates he has done his homework. Him being able to recite all this shows it is fresh in his memory.

"I know your little friend Sir Glasdale has taken up with some peasant wench"
Literal gossip. He knows Glasdale is our friend which isn't exactly secret either. Shows he's done his homework.

"I know that Sir Norwache has too many masters, and Sir Rabe too few."
Our association with both is quite public. Shows the depth of his knowledge though. Implies Norwache has split loyalties (interesting) and that Rabe (and possibly his family) haven't taken any sides yet (unsurprising)

"I know that you are on pilgrimage, not a bad cover story for extracting your brother from his predicament."

Pilgrimage - public knowledge. Extracting our brother - Easy to figure out for him. Doesn't require a traitor among us.

(The fact that a green knight traveled with us is public knowledge. Honestly the green knights identity is easy to to figure out retroactively if you're aware that our brother was in Fallavon and then showed up with us in Pascae. Anyone of import in the prince's faction knows this.) We also got that trip success in obfuscating his identity during the travels, so I doubt anyone knew before he showed up in Pascae. Our companions get a pass on this.
I also think that he's got a bad read on us here. The pilgrimage is legitimate, not just a cover story.

"I know what you know, or rather what you think you know, that truly happened in a place that both Duke and Queen will deny even exists."
He most likely (correctly) believes we fought ANARCHY. Not too wild given what he knows. He ought to know there was a mystery knight there during the battle given the density of Prince faction members. The reason for the second herald's demotion isn't public but I'd be surprised if he doesn't know quite a bit about the queensmen's movement given his resources.

Possibilities:
- It's possible to figure this out without any of our companions being a traitor given his ancilliary knowledge.
- Norwache knows and could've leaked. Before or after he knew who we was.
- AGONY knows through some magic communication with ANARCHY

[2/3]
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>>4372102
Cont.

"I know that you have nightmares. That what happened to you in the darkest reaches of the woods plagues you day and night."
Possibilities:
- Norwache knew we couldnt sleep - awake at night when we had our midnight meeting. Norwache squealed?
- Easy guess if he knows we fought ANARCHY.

"I know that your confessor hasn’t told you that his previous parish was a chapel only a day’s ride from Castle Vancewell."
The prince trying to undermine him makes me trust our confessor more, desu.
Besides, we don't talk casually with him too often. When would he have 'admitted' it? I don't think this is a big deal actually.
That said it's probably worth having a normal chat with Towbray to verify.

"I know that you hear voices."
Details were leaked from our talk with the Bishop (double fail). No surprise they ended up in the hands of the spider in the web.

Conclusion:
The prince has a very impressive spy network and political knowledge (both unsurprising). He either is gossip rainman or has studied us extensively (dangerous). Assuming our bad rolls didn't retroactively cause this to happen I really feel like we gained more from these reveals than he did though. He doesn't gain too much by playing his hand like this.

I'm willing to trust Father Towbray given both his character and the Prince's denouncement. In order to help absolve him we should talk to him about the Reclaimants and his past. Could also discuss him being correct on church matters being tainted with politics.
I believe the prince when he says Norwache has split loyalties. I can believe that Norwache leaked some details about us but also don't imagine that the situation regarding his loyalties is clear cut. We should have a chat with Norwache and use our +20DC bonus (from thread #21) to talk with him and make sure.
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And one final unrelated thing.
Before writing the verse I compiled a list of all the verses written so far to see if any fit.

https://pastebin.com/iKuM1puG

(Fun note: Forgotten has used the one AGONY recited before and the numbering matched. Impressive!)
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>>4371883
I strongly believe that this might backfire. As much as a Bible clapback may goad it into revealing information, it might just as well paint a larger target on our back considering we reveal we know who Agony is. Not only do we earn the Prince's emnity this banquet, but we also make Agony no longer underestimate us and that might translate into the Prince's retribution.
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>>4372108
Fair point.
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>>4372106
>A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning."

We should definitely toss this out next time someone says we can't do something.
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>>4371627
>> “Even a Pitfiends can quote scripture. I bid you good evening, Sir Sanguine.” You do not trust this man. You will not talk with him any longer than you have to. You make your excuses and leave. And live. [Idealist]
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>>4372106
I don't disagree that it is dangerous. I just imagine he already knows that we are aware of the fact that he's a SoS as well as the basic info available at the shrine in Fallavon. It could be an attempt by the prince to ascertain our knowledge but I don't think he needs to.

The "We all serve someone" along with "He does not see you as I see you" also makes me think that this conversation is not in service of the prince.

I definitely think there's merit to a strategy of staying under the radar, my read on the situation is just that it is too late here. I feel that staying passive in our interaction with AGONY is just going to minimize our gains. To me Emile is also acutely aware that has a literal angel watching over his shoulder, both empowering him to act and judging him if he doesn't.

(I also think it'd be hilarious to do a social combat roll against an actual Pit Fiend and see what modifiers it gets. Maluses for martial gear in a social arena?)
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>>4371883
Yeah supporting this

>>4372100
>>4372102
He actually doesn't know us very well if he thinks our pilgrimage is a cover story. Nor did he mention Ava Sinclair despite how personally hurtful it could have been, despite even knowing about our nightmares. This in particularly tell us that Sir Norwache didn't update him after our drinking session. A point in Norwache favor. This above all should strengthen our trust in our companions after an honest talk with Father Towbray and Sir Norwache.

There is no magic here, only a well informed spy master working behind the scenes working for him.
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>>4371627
Write in

> "i hear that you never remove your helmet. What even is under there? I must confess that I can't put much faith in what a man who refuses to look at himself might think he sees in others."

Try to fuck with our head? Tough shit, the Angel already showed us that how the Sons see the world is true, but incomplete and therefore wrong.

The Angel, after all, didn't lift us up. They merely reminded us that we could choose to stand.

I'd also like to toss something in about

> "I am unfamiliar with the verse you quoted, but I do know the name for a man who chooses to suffer the lash of another so as to suffer less. *Slave*. I fear not the Agony of wielding the lash myself, compared to being less than what a man can be."

I'm pretty confident this guy is Agony, btw. Also, I noticed he didn't actually confirm the Prince as his master.
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>>4371883
I should have read through before trying a write-in.>>4371627
Supporting

>"'Chapter 1, Verse 61: Yet the Agony of this present time is not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.' How -do- you see me, Sanguine?"
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>>4372103
Anon your post is incredibly comprehensive and well thought out, you've made a very strong case for the prince just patching us out with implication he knows more than he does and if their is some pit blasted magic here it only involves so much of the truth

>>4371883
Support
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>>4367744
Well, people in earlier threads were talking about meeting Canton Saber.
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>>4372103

The fact that the Prince didn't mention Jess in any way just about proves that he doesn't actually have a mole among our group. Has Norwache reported to other Faction Agents, to which the Prince is most certainly the head of, about some of our activities? Most likely, but if he truly turned someone within our inner circle, the knowledge that we not only are harboring a Fae Changeling, but are actively working and traveling with her could be end with us being stripped of our Knighthood, via Heresy, and our family being decimated, via Treason. Odds are good that the Prince was originally looking into our brother when he passed through Aubrey.

Funny that he confirmed that Rabe is a total bro.
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>>4372579
Rabe is many things but he would never rat out a knigga
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>>4372581
Well okay maybe not on purpose damn fools built worse for intrigue than we are
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>>4372602

Honestly can't wait to travel to the mountains and take that blood oath. Meeting the rest of the Rabe family is going to be a treat.
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>>4372619
Go there to help out with the snake issues they going to be having.
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>>4372619
>>4372629
>Courting/fucking Vancewell
>Brotherly Oaths with Karl
>Fighting Snakemen to coat ourselves in glory
>Investigating the Slaver connection in Montbrune

Bring on the Montbrune Arc
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I wonder if we could encourage Damiens marriage to lady Rabe?
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>>4372699
Our sister seems to be seriously considering it so between her and Mother I don't think Emile needs to worry about it.
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>>4372102
>>4372100
>>4372103
>>4372106

Excellent research and consideration anon, you make some great points, especially about the Prince. Just to add

>"I know that you have nightmares. That what happened to you in the darkest reaches of the woods plagues you day and night."
Possibilities:

This info could come from just about anyone we've been around, including the people who run the lightning vigil. Or any of the people with us on pilgrimage, people talk about that sort of stuff. So basically public knowledge, we've probably woken people up with our screams.

>>4371883
This is excellent, supporting
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>>4372705
I guess, especially if Damien likes her "moxy"
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>>4372679
Thats most liky only going to happen if we dont vote to become a dragongurd as by the time we get out of that job most of the bug stuff back gome probs alredy happend.
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>>4372732
I'm not so sure for two reasons. Firstly massive conspiracies and secret wars and stuff tend to take quite a while to boil over into outright warfare. And secondly (admittedly less likely), this might be plot that Forgotten wants to go into in detail. We might do a bit in the DG, then time skip with a few moments of action, hear about trouble brewing and then go home to arrive in the midst of war
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>>4372732
With everything that's happened this thread I'm pretty damn sure the Dragon guard has been shuffled down a ton on the priority list.
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>>4372733
The Prince did mention that Sir Gilbern wants us to help resolve the Queen's troubles in the Cathagi Court, so we'd be still affecting Canton in some form even if we're basically in semi-exile.
Or we could defy the warning and head back after the pilgrimage though I'd expect an assassination attempt if that happens.
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>>4372744
>The Prince did mention that Sir Gilbern wants us to help resolve the Queen's troubles in the Cathagi Court, so we'd be still affecting Canton in some form even if we're basically in semi-exile.

That's a good point, we also did promise to help out if we could without committing to going full spy whilst over there. And of course I really want to repair that relationship as well

>Or we could defy the warning and head back after the pilgrimage though I'd expect an assassination attempt if that happens.

Big time. I think if we come back too soon it's going to be constant attempts on our life
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>>4372746
I think that's overeating the princes intentions we're not big time enough yet to warrant assassins from him
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>>4371883
Supporting this MEGA MIND
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>>4372747
The Prince basically told us to fuck off to Cathagi and never come back, if we return immediately afterwards I sincerely doubt he's going to let it slide.
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>>4372747
He literally knows almost everything we've done in the past few months indicating that he sees us as a threat.

>0 Success: You are viewed not just as an obstacle but a potential threat.

He knows we know about the secret war stuff, the things happening in the Fallavon woods.

>But for now, I want you to leave. Leave this party, leave this Duchy, sail away from my kingdom across the seas to Cathagi like you plan.”

Many attendants noted that the Prince dismissed you from his presence without bidding you to rise. But no one aside from yourself, the Prince and his looming guardian were privy to the things said here. Nonetheless Prince Lionel’s parting words seem to echo in your ears as you slink away…

>“And if you have the slightest bit of sense, I suggest you stay there.”

I'd take that as a threat that should we return we'll be in grave danger
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>>4372752
theirs a difference between being irritated someone didnt bend to your intimidation and sending assassins after you because you didn't also note the last part of that interaction

>“And if you have the slightest bit of sense, I suggest you stay there.”

>>4372756
As has been discussed he could know it but he could also be telegraphing that he knows more than he does, furthermore Im not sure if thats a threat.
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>>4372756
He might take further steps but the way he said it seems more a grave warning to us. Far too grave in fact that it seems that it might be a warning so that he only has to warn us and we'll remove ourselves from the board altogether.

At the least, if we want to return with our head assured, it would be a good idea to obtain merits in Cathagi. The removal of a foreign hostile would certainly put us in good steed with all factions, since nothing unites like an external threat. That will make sure that he would not be able to move so easily against us when we return.
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>>4372733
Theres some stuff thats happening ovwr there for sure and if we wanted too we can cheack them out thpugh would depand on how much freedom and how far away from the dragon we are alowed to go. And itl be like 6 years worth of time.
We alredy know the snakes have enugh numbers to start there invasion pretty much now so i dont think we would get back in time and rabe could be dead.

If a our big bro is gettinf marred to lady rabe itl probs happen pretty soon even more so worh the snakes, gota pump out an hair befor going to war.

And dont know if people have picked uo on this line from the prince" sail away from my kingdom across the seas to Cathagi like you plan.”
He says his kingdom as if his already the euler of it which his not but that tells me how close shit is to going down openly.

Theres alredy open war happening in the shaoweds as both sides are use small armys for there battles im sure by the time we get back from grud duty the power struggle would be over.

We couls also call out the princes bluff by just heading back home/ rabe town.

And besides we do wnguh carzy shit and almost get ourselves killed enguh times that pissing off a prince probs wont change our life expectancy too much.
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>>4372779
It's not going to be six years lmao service with the DG is normally for two
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Forgotten, I know you wrote that you'll post the last content update in a couple of days, but will there be a roll today after this vote is closed? If yes then please post a head's up 1 hour before you ask for rolls.
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>>4372769
>As has been discussed he could know it but he could also be telegraphing that he knows more than he does

I'm aware of the discussion but would it not be prudent to treat the situation as if he does? He's one of the most powerful men in the country, has a literally SoS with him and a massive spy network. He obviously knows some stuff, exactly what we can't be sure, but it seems like a foolish risk to assume he doesn't truly know enough to endanger us.

>furthermore Im not sure if thats a threat.

Excuse the meta for a moment but as I quoted last time he literally sees us as a threat. If you don't see him telling us to leave and stay gone as threatening... well we'll have to disagree on that point but personally I wouldn't want to hang around.I get that you don't want to join the DG, and maybe we don't have to but it's something that we'll need to seriously consider when the time comes.

>>4372771
>At the least, if we want to return with our head assured, it would be a good idea to obtain merits in Cathagi

I agree, whilst over there we definitely need to make use of the time to help ensure our safety when we return. We need to make ourselves too well known, and too well liked, prestigious etc to simply kill off without notice. I think that'll be pretty difficult as there are a lot of ways to kill someone but we'll do what we can

>>4372779
> And itl be like 6 years worth of time

Dragon Guard is 3 years

>We alredy know the snakes have enugh numbers to start there invasion pretty much now so i dont think we would get back in time and rabe could be dead.

Do we actually know this in character? I don't remember Emile learning of it. I think this is OOC knowledge.

>If a our big bro is gettinf marred to lady rabe itl probs happen pretty soon even more so worh the snakes, gota pump out an hair befor going to war.

I mean yeah I don't want to miss that either but the two have only just met. We don't know IC that they will be married soon so if we get there and have to make a choice we can't really go "Well OOC I know there will be a wedding and I want to go to that so I wont join"

>He says his kingdom as if his already the euler of it which his not but that tells me how close shit is to going down openly.

He is the prince... his father can overrule him but he is a ruler. That's not a strange thing for an entitled little prick to say and it confirms nothing in character.

>Theres alredy open war happening in the shaoweds

Thats... that is a contradiction. Open war can't happen in the shadows. It's either open or in the shadows.

>We couls also call out the princes bluff by just heading back home/ rabe town.

Sounds like a good way to end up dead super fast. The knigga aint bluffing.

>And besides we do wnguh carzy shit and almost get ourselves killed enguh times that pissing off a prince probs wont change our life expectancy too much.

I disagree, I think you're reaching quite a bit
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>>4372785
>>4372789
Hmmm i keep it thinkign it was way longer then that., 3 years not too bad but still long enguh for stuff to happen without us.
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>>4372789
It's for 2 years, this is from the archives:
>You have of course heard of the order, and you learn some more of the details now. The Dragon Guard is not considered one of the Cantôn orders, though many Cantôn knights have served on it alongside an eclectic body of warriors all foreign to Cathagi. A trial may be required to join, after which you are given a sack of gold [2 Wealth] and serve for two years as part of the Dragon’s personal bodyguard. After two years of service, largely sitting around the Crescent Palace from what you’ve heard, you are given as much riches from the treasury as you can carry in two hands [4 Wealth] and your time in the Dragon Guard is served.
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>>4372794
My bad, thanks for the correction
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>>4372789
Yeah okay it's prudent to treat the situation as he does but that doesn't mean we should cow to him, doubly so if the SoS's are involved.

look I'm not saying we don't leave for Carthaggi, finishing the vigil before coming back is at least something we've commited to and it will at least make the prince consider he had the effect he wanted.

>>4372794
thanks for that anon I wonder where the hell the 3 years thing came from.
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If we side with the Queensmen, then they'll tell us to join the Dragonguard to help with the Queen's problems (whatever that means) at the Cathagi Court. Since they have no agents at the Cathagi Court, we'll be far more useful to them as a Dragonguard at the Cathagi Court than as a wandering errant knight in Canton.
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>>4372789
A prince is not a ruler thats a king or queen, his next in line and has power to do things for sure, now if he said my future kingdom or just the kingdom then i would not have thought of anything of it but he said my kingdom as in its his right now which is not true since his still just a prince.

Dont think im over reaching about doing carzy stuff that would lead to lost of life or limb.
Went and fly kicked a sos frist time we sore one
Took the lighting penace
Getting invloed in fucked up murder case which lead to big street fight and pissing off tons of powerful people.
Went walking around the wilds/ fae courts and monsters.
Courting/ flirtying with lady vincewell
Just to name a few things thats happened .
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>>4372802
Another thing to consider is Sir Gilbern's loyalty mission:
>LOYALTY MISSION 'Queensman': ”Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? We do.” Sir Gilbern will become LOYAL if you help him complete a clandestine mission.
If we can mend things before we leave this might prove to be pretty useful.
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>>4372808
I don't think there's much to mend, I've said this before but Gilbern seems to be built for shadowrunning and his profession has it as a necessity we just ran afoul of it.
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>>4372802
Our house is very much a kingsmen house dont see way we would try to become a queensman spy the most il see is let our friend know whats happening and not trying to be james bond.
Seems like for 2 years all we would be doing is hanging around the the dragons crib looking pretty and doing lots of court stuff which we not the best at.
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>>4372804
>A prince is not a ruler thats a king or queen, his next in line and has power to do things for sure,

Mate a prince absolutely is a ruler just as Emile is a ruler in his own Dutchy. Yes his parents and even his brother out rank and overrule him but if he walks up to a peasant or a guard, a cook, etc and gives them an order that does not conflict with standing orders from his parents etc, they must do it. He rules them. As the Prince rules anyone he so wishes except for his parents.

>Don't think ....

Yes we've done some risky and crazy things but you're saying that ignoring the prince is fine because it wont change anything. It wont impact how long we live all because "we've done other crazy things". It's a bad argument
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>>4371627
>> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
Well the ball went better than I expected at least.
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>>4372814
Kingsman vs Queensman aren't opposing factions most of the time, you know. In fact currently they're exceptionally close as they are cooperating to suppress the Prince and his supporters.

> Join the Kingsmen

> Get instructed to aid the Queensmen anyways

As for why we would become a Queensmen spy? Because it's for the good of the realm. There's a reason that the King and Queen Reginae have separate forces instead of only one force, and it's worked for Canton so far.

Besides, given Emiles religious fervor and the fact that he's been avctively involving himself in plots and subterfuge ranging from neutralizing an agent of the Prince (Hast), extracting his brother from Fallavon, using the Jays to drive of the Langlish Mercs, discovering a secret history that could literally tear apart the Kingdom, anonymously defeating Anarchy, socializing with the Fae and recieving boons from them, solving murders and bringing down corrupt nobles -

Dude. Emile is pretty much alread a Queensmen in faith and deed. Remember, the Queen is also the head of the Church. It's not like Emile hasn't been flexible about working outside the law consistently either, and he has been dealing with subterfuge for a significant time now as well.

As to your insistence that House Andrei are Kingsmen as if to imply that it would be a betrayal for us to join the Queensmen and work with the Reginae Knights, I'm quite certain that our mother would be thrilled at us having an opportunity to increase House Andrei's relevance, while our father wouldn't much mind at all. While he surely has sympathy's towards the moderate faction of the Kingsmen, it's not like House Andrei has any actual ties to them.

Besides, we're the second son. Having Damien remain a Kingsman supporter and sending Emile to join the Queensmen is one of the things second sons are for. That way they could have a representative in both factions. Or, well, more accurately it leaves Damien with the potential to build a relationship with the Kingsmen.

Emile joining the Queensmen also won't significantly reflect on the attitude of Bouse Andrei since he's just the second son.

Ultimately, between House Andrei not having any standing with the Kingsmen as it is, there's nothing lost by having Emile join the Queensmen.
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>>4372865
but their team simp do you really want o be a subscriber the queens only fans
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>>4372865
>Kingsmen suppressing the Prince

The princes support almost certainly comes from a faction in the kingsmen or from the faction as a whole its not an entirely seperate base.
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>>4372865
Personally even if the Andreis have Kingsman sympathies I think Lady Andrei especially is pragmatic enough to start aligning elsewhere depending on how events play out. Compared to say if we were playing as Gabriel our family doesn't really sound like die-hard supporters.
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>>4372877
>>>Kingsmen/Nationalists - Moderates
Generally united in their pride as Cantonians and the rightful rule of His Grace the King, this is such a broad spectrum of politics that the word 'moderate' is insufficient. While most men of the Continent consider themselves nationalists, not all agree with the degree of the authority that should be awarded to the King.

Does anything at all about the Prince say "Moderate" to you? While I'm sure a number of them have switched their support to the Prince, it seems to me that his support is mostly from several Dukes and powerful nobles who are able to defy Royalty to a significant degree within their own borders.

>>>Duchymen/Nationalists/Regional interests - Independants
They are more likely to be focussed on the immediate threats to their home region territories than the politics of the Kingdom as a whole. Their loyalty generally lies to family and their mother realm than the entity of Canton as a whole. They will gladly ride to Canton's defence against the foreign invader, but will just as readily ride against the encroaching ambitions of a rival Duchy should it threaten their home.

I am fairly certain that the Duchymen are perfecrly happy to support the Prince in return for concessions that allow them more independence within their territory. Things like letters of writ allowing foreigners and mercenaries to hunt for Beastmen slaves to sell to the Cathagi.

The Prince I suspect is not concerned about weakening royal authority in the long term, since he seems to have some sort of Sinful plan for the future.

He probably thinks that once he fully takes the reins of power, he will be able to play the Dukes against each other, or maybe use the SoS to control them, or he plans to start a foreign war anyways and then send the Duchymen off to fight it to bleed them of their strength or something.
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>>4372816
I'd like to point out that the Prince actually has enough power that he is able to openly write letters of writ with his own signature, and the King is unable to revoke them or prevent him from doing so.

While not King yet, the Prince already has de facto authority from his supporters that is at least equal to the King to be able to do so.

Like. That is straight up treason for him to do so.
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>>4372875
>their team simp

So, the perfect team for Emile.
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>>4372875
>>4372908

Are you just resetting your IP so you can agree with yourself on new IDs now? Bruh...
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>>4372909
no
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>>4372899
I agree nothing about what the prince is dealing with is in any way moderate but that does not mean he cannot have wider support particularly if they do not know what he is dealing in

>it seems to me that his support is mostly from several Dukes and powerful nobles who are able to defy Royalty to a significant degree within their own borders.

I think at least some of the Duchies are manuvering for their own ambitions while some are aligned for Familial reasons (I suspect this is the case with Montbrune) secondary houses are a very mixed bag some are hedging bets, some are Traditionalists (Andrei/Rabe) and some were Ambitious (Sir Vancewell)

The Duchymen we can agree on their support is heavily reliant on concessions and support against Border threats though I think you give the Prince's long term thinking too little credit, a concession here or there may be temporary weakening of his authority but it could secure long term strength, its also very likely he could be being played by whatever master the SoS's serve as a large ambition like his is very easy to cater to and could blind him to other intents.

I agree largely with your conclusion sending everyone off in a united war against a third party tends to unify a nation.
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>>4372939
>>4372899
The Faction is probably a mix of genuine Kingsmen and people like the Vancewells and Sir Norwache who are in it purely for self-interest. Also I'd bet that the Prince plans on backstabbing the Duchymen later; his vision for Canton would probably require curbing the power of the Dukes in favour of the King.

>I agree largely with your conclusion sending everyone off in a united war against a third party tends to unify a nation.
So is it a coincidence that the Snakemen are rising in the wastes? Hmm....
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>>4372966
Yeah that centeralisation of power to my understanding is a central part of the Kingsmen, a great deal of the kings power is heldback by Duchy politics, The Queens own authority and the church.

>So is it a coincidence that the Snakemen are rising in the wastes? Hmm....

I think we are blessed/cursed to live in interesting times.
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>>4372972
Given the feudal nature of Canton and the (supposed) moderate nature of Kingsmen, I wouldn't put much trust in their desire to centralize. If anything, I expect them to respect the authority of the King in exchange of respect of their noble privileges.

Queensmen and Prince are those interested in centralization. The former wish for a bigger central power of the Church (or Crown + supervision of the Church) and use religion as a mean to gather widespread support, the latter wishes for personal power free of religious or feudal constraints - Absolute Monarchism.
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>>4372994
Yeah but its not like we're moving from a feudal system to an absolutionist kingdom at the drop of a hat this struggle could be the beginning of that though, that exchange of authority and priviliege is part of that modern struggle atm.

spot on about both factions being centralists though I think thats why theirs friction with the reclaimists who sound like some sort of fundamentalist movement.
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>>4372994
>>4373005
We could probably consider the Prince's position to be an extremist Kingsman one. Moderates may not be in favour of the Prince's absolutism but they're definitely far more pro-centralisation than the Dukemen.Remember the Kingship of Canton is still relatively new, up to a couple of generations ago it was basically every Duchy for themselves.

I wouldn't say that the Queensmen are necessarily pro-centralisation either, just that whatever the political system is the Church must retain its influence in society.
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>>4373009
>Remember the Kingship of Canton is still relatively new, up to a couple of generations ago it was basically every Duchy for themselves.

where'd you grab this idea from?

>I wouldn't say that the Queensmen are necessarily pro-centralisation either, just that whatever the political system is the Church must retain its influence in society

I would say both radicals & hardliners tend towards centralisation, Kingsmen through Royal authority, Queensmen through Theocracy and centralised Dogma but by and large the efforts are curbed by moderates or other radicals.
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>>4373015
Sorry I messed up not a couple of generations but the Kingship came much after Adam and Cain.

>The first King was the last Generalis Rex, essentially a 'Super Duke' elected to co-ordinate the efforts of the faithful human forces in the War of Names generations after the days of Adam and Cain.
Since then, enjoying the divine right to rule with the blood of successive Mater Reginates flowing through their veins, the dynasty has persisted since the end of the War of Names. The title is patrilineal, but there have been cases in extremis where an heir was elected by the Five Duchies. By ancient church law this heir is always a scion of the Aubrey House though, so the dynasty remains largely unbroken after 600 years since the end of the War of Names.

Got it mixed up with the War of Borders, though that is probably a major event that may have galvanised people inclined towards centralisation.
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>>4373026
we all make mistakes anon

the war of borders is probably one of the fresher issues that lead to a desire for ceneralistation but the history of Canton as a nation seems plagued by such examples.
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>>4373009
> We could probably consider the Prince's position to be an extremist Kingsman one.

For sure, thepastebin itself says that not all Kingsmen agree on how much authority should be put in the Crown. It's why the Prince has some following in Kingsmen circle (other for being the heir, of course).

> I wouldn't say that the Queensmen are necessarily pro-centralisation either
I don't agree with this simply because the Church is by its own nature a centralizing element. In a tapestry of personal interests and customs, the Cantonese religion is the one true unifier amongst people (which explains the Queensmen's populist leanings).

So I think centralization is a big policy for them. Only extremists wish for a clear primacy of the Church however.

I wouldn't say that the Queensmen are necessarily pro-centralisation either
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>>4373032
Sorry when I talk about 'centralisation' in this case I'm talking about political centralisation.
Whether Canton is politically centralised or not doesn't matter as much for the Church than the Crown since it's power comes from people's beliefs rather than secular politics. An analogy would be like how the Catholic Church still managed to remain deeply influential in the West even after the Roman Empire fell.
Hence while both parties may be 'pro-centralisation' in a sense, the nature of centralisation means different things for them. After all in this case the Prince's idea of centralisation would be extremely detrimental to the status of the Church.
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>>4373039
Looking back at this I think I made it unnecessarily complex.
TLDR:
Kingsmen- Pro-centralisation in the hands of the Crown
Queenmen- Pro-centralisation in the hands of the Church
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I'm curious to see if the prince could be brought back from engaging with the SoS sure it would certainly be an uphill battle but if we could it would be a hell of a victory.
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>>4373073
No ambition, even for the country's sake, is worth one man's soul. Not even his.
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>>4373077
Thats a given
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>>4372794
>2 years
>6 wealth
lol Emile has both made and given away that much in six months. Is there really a reason to go Dragon Guard other than to say we've done it, maybe pick the Dragon's brain about some stuff we could adventure and find out on our own, and avoid dealing with the Prince for two years?
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>>4373097
Clout, information, avoiding death by Prince, adventures, wealth. Those are the main reasons off the top of my head but also I think it'd be super interesting. It's something we can all decide on later though
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>>4373097
>>4373101
Also it's 6 wealth guaranteed at minimum, we can always earn more when we're there.
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>>4373102
That's a good point actually. I reckon there will be plenty of opportunities to earn wealth whilst there on top of our 6 wealth
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>>4373077
Emile's simp soul is worth Vancewell puss though.
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>>4373101
>>4373102
So everything I said plus Dragon errands, meeting new (non)kniggas, and maybe a training montage or two.
And then the intention is still to come back to Canton and deal with whatever fallout happened while Emile wasn't around?
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>>4373109
Absolutely, we can't stay in Cathago forever. It's only two years so hopefully we can sail back right in time for some juicy plot to happen. Maybe things will reach a critical tipping point and Emile will arrive just in time to watch everything explode/have a hand in how things play out
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>>4373109
Helping out the Queen at Court is a pretty big factor that needs to be considered when we decide.
Also unless people want Emile to become like the Patrikas whether we join the DG or not I'd expect us to return home either way.
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>>4373109
Oh also passing info about the Dragon etc to Sir Gilbern. That'll be important as well
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>>4373101
Damn near all that can be done in Canton including probably not pissing the prince off maybe

>>4373111
The issue a lot can happen in two years and we are going to have to miss it because we because honour and oaths
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>>4373115
>including probably not pissing the prince off maybe

Except that seems pretty impossible. He knows where we've been and where we are going and has told us to leave. We've discussed this already.

Not only that but joining the Dragon Guard is a sure path to 99% of those things whereas there is no certainty in anything staying in Canton

>The issue a lot can happen in two years and we are going to have to miss it because we because honour and oaths

Another way to look at it is a lot will happen over there as well and we'll be knee deep in it. We may end up playing a critical role by passively (or actively if we end up changing our minds about being a spy) discovering information to pass along.

I get it though, you don't want to miss playing a role in any upcoming situations happening in Canton, especially with family here. I get that but I don't think Forgotten is going to go "You left, rocks fall, you weren't there to help so the rocks land on everyone important to you and they die. RIP." Don't get me wrong, there will be consequences and risk, just as there would be for staying. We'll miss some shit for sure but when we come back we'll be a force to be reckoned with and better positioned to effect change.
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>>4373073
I don't think it's possible. Look at what he was expected to step into the role of King as.

> Although the King is not unjustly in disregard of the people's attention, his role as a political animal in wrangling the truculent Lords of the realm often takes precedence. Traditionally, the Queen has always been viewed as the carer and heart's delight of the common folk. Only the King may call the Banners of the Dukes to the defence of Canton, and it has been many generations since they have held such influence that they could be sure every Duchy would answer.

He was going to inherit a position where he would be less of a ruler and more of a judiciary. Understandably he would want to be able to centralize more power around the Throne, especially with the Snakemen threat rising. I don't think Sanguinius created the Prince's ambition, but merely enabled it. The Prince likely sees Sanguinius as a tool to be used to achieve his ambitions, and one he'll need later for dealing with the Duchies.

The Prince definitely seems arrogant enough to think that he can keep control of Sanguinius.

What I find concerning is that it seems like Cantons government was intentionally designed to prevent a centralization of power. The King can make law but not break them, the Duchies can break laws but not make them, and the Queen and Reginae Knights are excluded from Court politics or having a significant military force but have legal immunity from the decisions of the Court and its laws, and are able to oppose either the King or the Nobility as needed to tip the balance should either side become too powerful. Additionally the Queen is required to be the head of the Church to provide the divine right to rule, and the Nobility can't directly attack the Church without having their subjects revolt.

Now we have this Prince talking about wanting a stronger Canton, trying to sieze power and usurp his father, committing Heresy, and there's a Son of Sin who just quoted a scripture that seems designed to justify slavery right down to the lash.

I am concerned that the Prince is a Tyrant in the making.

And once again, Agony skillfully deflected from answering that the Prince was actually his master. I wonder if he's able to outright lie, or if he is like the Foe and instead.

>>4371627
Hey. Can we outright ask Sanguinius who his Master is? Pin him down to a yes or no answer so he can't weasel word his way out of it.
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>>4373101
Also the chance to learn more about the Sons of Sin. Cathagi might have records, or the Dragon might be willing to tell us about it.
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>>4373120
Yeah yeah be a bitch and do as he says instead of calling a bluff.

>Not only that but joining the Dragon Guard is a sure path to 99% of those things whereas there is no certainty in anything staying in Canton

thats straight up bullshit we've already taken all of what you've mentioned on our journeys so far, there is ample opportunity for everything offered here in canton

>another way to look at it is a lot will happen over there as well and we'll be knee deep in it. We may end up playing a critical role by passively (or actively if we end up changing our minds about being a spy) discovering information to pass along.

The thing is we have friends, family, loyalties and vows here maybe even lovers, Carthaggi is a foreign place that we'd effectively be abandoning all we know and hold dear for two years on a bet that things won't descend into chaos and there is litreally no gurantee shit hasnt caught fire already.

>>4373122
I know its a hard task maybe even impossible but Canton has stood for near 900 years through the efforts of Men & the realm without as far as we know relying on Damned powers to hold it together and a strong king does not need and ideally should not have to rely on such powers to be strong.
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>>4373115
>because we because honour and oaths

We won't after Frida has corrupted us into her tool so have no fear. We'll break and violate multiple knight's codes vows and oaths.
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>>4373130
Canton has lasted for 900 years with a decentralized power structure, it's debateable if it even needs a strong King at all.

The question isn't if the Prince is relying on Damned Powers, the question is if the Prince believes that he is able to control Sanguinius. Or if he even believes Sanguinius to be a "Damned Power", after all Cain and Adam were also Sons of Sin.
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>>4373130
Why the heck would you think he's bluffing? If Lord Vancewell and Hewitt can hire people to go after us you think the Crown Prince won't?
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>>4373133
Thos ID has literally just been randomly shitposting about Frida.
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>>4373130
>Yeah yeah be a bitch and do as he says instead of calling a bluff.

This is like the meme about some dude calling someone a bitch for wearing sunscreen. Like knigga do you think you're tougher than the sun? In this case do you think trying to call the Prince on some perceived "bluff" is going to lead to anything but pain for Emile? He doesn't even have to kill Emile, there are so many choices to fuck with him. Like dude, get a grip.

>thats straight up bullshit we've already taken all of what you've mentioned on our journeys so far, there is ample opportunity for everything offered here in canton

We've started to because we've seized opportunities as they've come up but they are by no means guaranteed pal. Whereas the DG comes with guaranteed wealth, prestige, etc. The only thing you can say for sure that we'll get here is adventure which is a given no matter where we go.

>The thing is we have friends, family, loyalties and vows here maybe even lovers, Carthaggi is a foreign place that we'd effectively be abandoning all we know and hold dear for two years on a bet that things won't descend into chaos and there is litreally no gurantee shit hasnt caught fire already.

We're not abandoning anything, stop being so melodramatic about it. Taking a post in the Dragon Guard is an honour for Canton knights, it brings prestige. If things are so fucked that it'll all collapse the moment we leave then one man isn't going to change a thing. Joining the DG will be good for our House and Emile as a knight.

This is some fear mongering bullshit.
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>>4373133
Carrot before theoretical cart anon

>>4373135
Well that would be an issue filed under convincing him

>>4373136
Because we're an ant before a lion sure we've stuck our nose in things but is it worth routing us out over because we're a minor threat?
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>>4373138
I'm not shitposting. If you think we won't be corrupted by Frida (especially after we voted for Hearty which lets her corrupt us), then I have a bridge I wanna sell you.

>>4373141
Yeah okay shill.
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>>4373141
Yes? It's precisely because we're a relative nobody that's it's easy to fuck around with us without major repercussions. He's not exactly lacking in resources to do it either.
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>>4373139
Again you're making the assumption that if we dont listen he'll be roused to action as opposed to annoyed the dude is entirely dismissive of us as someone deserving of his attention.

>We're not abandoning anything, stop being so melodramatic about it. Taking a post in the Dragon Guard is an honour for Canton knights, it brings prestige. If things are so fucked that it'll all collapse the moment we leave then one man isn't going to change a thing. Joining the DG will be good for our House and Emile as a knight.

If we join the Dragon guard we are sworn to stay for the two year contract if family, friends, whoever calls us to action we are obligated to stay it's a dereliction for a guaranteed paycheck, if you seriously don't think their is even a chance that things couldn't kick off in any capacity while we are doing that I don't know what to say.
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>>4373130
Our friends and families are only placed at increased risk by our presence here.

You keep saying we can get as much done here in Canton as we can going to the DG.

I am skeptical. We can help support the Queen and resolve her problems that sound pretty significant, we can make a guaranteed minimum of 6 wealth, we can acquire a significant amount of prestige, we can signficantly improve our relationship with Sir Gilbern who is a high ranking noble as well as possessing position of significant authority in the Queensmen and Order of Names, and we can avoid inciting the Prince to actively move against us.

What exactly is your plan if we stay in Canton? House Andrei has barely any influence beyond its borders, not a lot of wealth, nor a significant force of arms free to do anything but fight the Deadmen. Sir Rabe is our closest ally and he's a Knight of a minor impoverished house in a remote location on the border of the slithering wastes.

Neil dan Marc is as low status as a noble can get without being a commoner, something he's at risk of having his children become if he can't improve his lot.

Jess is a Fae.

So tell me, if we do decide to stay in Canton, what exactly is your plan for somehow not getting killed by the Prince, acquiring wealth, gaining a large amount of prestige, providing critical aid to the Queen herself, and proving ourselves trustworthy to Sir Gilbern?

How, exactly, do you suggest we achieve that in two years in Canton while the Prince tries to kill us.
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>>4373097
The reason to go to Carthagi is because it’s clearly a major plot option with opportunities for building allies and personal growth, like Luke travelling to Dagobah.
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>>4373153
>Again you're making the assumption that if we dont listen he'll be roused to action as opposed to annoyed the dude is entirely dismissive of us as someone deserving of his attention.

And you're making the assumption that he wont deal with us if we ignore him which is fucking dumb. He sees us as a threat. It's a fact.

>If we join the Dragon guard we are sworn to stay for the two year contract if family, friends, whoever calls us to action we are obligated to stay it's a dereliction for a guaranteed paycheck, if you seriously don't think their is even a chance that things couldn't kick off in any capacity while we are doing that I don't know what to say.

Cool, you can stop dribbling on your keyboard then. I've already made it clear that both options have risks and that things might get started whilst we're away.
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>>4373141
I'd also like to point out that we are definitely on Sanguinius' radar now, and it's entirely possible that he will instigate the Prince to definitely act against us.

Not that it would be difficult for the Prince. He literally has people for that, he would tell one of his conspirators to handle us and move on.

If we stay in Canton, he will definitely move against us.
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>>4373158
Is it even really a risk? I mean, what exactly can we do in two years in Canton with the Prince actively hostile to us that will change anything if things do blow up.

If we travel around Canton, we'll get assassinated. If we somehow manage to avoid that by being incredibly paranoid and lucky with rolls, ain't nobody gonna want to deal with us and offend the Prince. Sir Gilbern thinks we're involved in some shadowrun plot, and he was our in with the Queensmen so it's doubtful joining them will result in them letting us near any important work let alone helping us gain wealth or prestige.

The Kingsmen are at least partially supporting the Prince as well so they're out.

Lord Aulderige is neutral, so he isn't going to want to suddenly oppose the Prince and take us in.

Spending two years in Canton would be a waste of time and a massive, unecessary risk when we have the Dragonguard option.

I can just imagine Roslyns reaction to Emile saying that he needs to stick around and pick fight with the Prince to protect his family and friends.
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>>4372816
A prince is a male ruler (ranked below a king, grand prince, and grand duke) or member of a monarch's or former monarch's family.

The original, but now less common use of the word, originated in the application of the Latin word princeps, from late Roman law, and the classical system of government that eventually gave way to the European feudal society.

Learn stuff every day.
Though the use of a prince as a ruler iv naver heard of it beening used that way and more of just meaning your part of the ruling/royal family.

Though bossing around peasants thats a thing anyone of noble house can do. And if your noble house if strong enguh or you are high enguh in holy ordos you can boss around nobles as well.

You said i was reaching about carzy things so i was showing some carzy things that happened itwasnt really ment to be a strong argument just pointing it out.
Im sure email is going to do something every other week that could get him killed at the rate we play him.
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All right fine we're actually under serious threat by the Prince the post bashing is certainly not worth me dying on the ground I was standing on, it might even be worth joining the DG over I don't fucking know.

>>4373158
There's no need for insults anon I know I was being stupidly stubborn
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>>4373172
I apologize. It's late and I was frustrated but I was being a dick about it in the end. That's my bad knigga
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>>4373172
Our safest option to return to Canton immediately after the pilgrimage would have been if people hadn't voted to approach the Prince in the first place. But well you know....
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>>4373174
All good Knigga I've had stupid fights over stuff I wasn't ready to concede so it's nothing new

>>4373175
I mean I'm not going to argue that, if we hadn't been so keen on flying against the big wigs we wouldn't have been half in the mess we are about things

still wouldn't hurt to see what the waters are like about us returning home once our vigil is complete so we could at least know it's an option or not
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>>4373154
Okay, so. I like the unqiue opportunity of DGm but you're starting to verge a bit on fearmongering, knigga.

There's plenty of opportunity if we decide to return to Canton after the last Holy Site.

Wealth? We have investments, tourneys and hunting dangerous beasts. The previous threads can attest to their effectiveness.

Prestige? Tourneys, hunting Foes, starting to work with the Ordo Praetor, diplomacy with other Houses and getting involved in the secret civil war - all of these are ways to gain it. More directly even than DG, I might add.

Aid to the Queen? It depends on wheter we want to side with the Queensmen (but that seems a given by now). Besides, we don't know about this Cathagi business of hers - calling it 'critical' is a bit premature. Meanwhile in Canton, there's a lot of shit which needs fixing right now.

Gilbern? Look, we didn't critfail our interaction with him. We didn't cancel our goodwill in a snap. And after our talk with the Prince and his father, he doesn't believe we are his enemy. Bottom-line, we don't have to self-exile ourselves just to prove his friends.

Assassins after us? That happened before. And in all honesty, Emile is still a small fry for the Prince. Annoying perhaps, but not worthy of sending an army after. Should we relax? No, but neither should we live in constant fear. Also, DG path will have its own dangers - which aren't as known as those in Canton. Something to consider.

TL;DR Canton isn't a death sentence and has its own pro and cons like DG, calm down.
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>>4373189
>Prestige? Tourneys, hunting Foes, starting to work with the Ordo Praetor, diplomacy with other Houses and getting involved in the secret civil war - all of these are ways to gain it
>Assassins after us? That happened before. And in all honesty, Emile is still a small fry for the Prince. Annoying perhaps, but not worthy of sending an army after.

Sorry but I really disagree with this logic. The Reginate were perfectly willing to massacre Damien and his retinue simply because they were in the wrong place in the wrong time. I don't see how people can think the Crown Prince isn't willing to be any less ruthless just because we're supposedly 'small fry' or 'beneath his notice'. He's the damn heir to the throne, there's plenty of resources he could send after us and it'd be a drop in the bucket for him.

Also even if that was the case, he's not going to sit back like a fool and allow us to amass power and resources like that in Canton while blatantly ignoring his threat. Look at our current investigation as an example, if his supporters get affected by the stuff we do and start complaining you think he's not going to do anything? If we continue participating in the Secret War, unless we join his side we're definitely going to be meddling in a lot of his schemes. And that will definitely elevate us from a potential threat to someone that should be eliminated ASAP.
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Knight's Codes I'm certain Emile will break and violate:

>His Heart Knows Only Virtue
>A) Flower of Chivalry: Re-Roll all Courtship Rolls
>B) Holy Orders: +1 Combat Re-Roll, +1 Path of Adam OR Cain (TAKEN)
>*You may not be unfaithful to your wife. You may not father bastards, even if unmarried.

Walking dildo.

>His Blade Defends the Helpless
A) Blademaster: +10DC to Combat (TAKEN)
B) Warform Stance: Double success grant +2 Auto-Damage instead of +1.
>*You may not strike down a defenceless or unarmed opponent.

Frida's creature.

>His Might Upholds The Weak
>A) Shield of the Realm: Re-Roll 1 Failed Armour Save per Combat
>B) Staggering Blows: Opponent's suffer additional Injury(-5DC) with every point damage. (TAKEN)
>*You may refuse no call for aid, honestly asked for.

Same as the above.

>His Words Speaks Only Truth
>A) Orator: +20DC to Persuasion Rolls
>B) Leader of Men: +1 Companion Limit
>*You may not speak a lie, even to save your own life.

Already has broken it and violated it and will break it again and again.

>His Wrath Undoes the Wicked
>A) Smite Evil: -20AV to Foes
>B) Angel of Death: For one round, damage to Foe is doubled.
>*You will neither permit nor abide a villain, nor allow their ill behaviour to go unpunished.

LMAO
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>>4373170
Does this setting even have Grand Princes or Grand Dukes?

Regardless of the Prince's title, we know for a fact that he has enough power to do things like openly commit treason by writing letters of Writ which only the King should be able to do.

Arguing semantics about his title is pointless in the face of that.
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>>4373222
You must be a masochist, otherwise I'm not sure why you're still here with your whining when you apparently hate everything about this quest.
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>>4373189
We have yet to see the return on our investments.

Attending tourneys? That's just asking to get killed "Accidentally" when the Prince arranges a guy who outclasses us and has full plate as our first opponent.

Prestige? The DG is a pretty big deal. We nearly got murderized by a Basilisk. Also, super easy for people to die hunting by being shot in the back by a dozen arrows.

Hunting Foes? With our band? You know that they're ancient murder machines who can think and plan, and they outnumber us.

Diplomacy with other houses? What do we have to offer them that's worth them earning the Prince's animosity?

Get involved directly in the civil war? HOW? You want to just start stabbing people? It's a clandestine war, you can't just jump into it. I mean, you can, but once you get noticed a single person is easily crushed.

You're comparing Craig and his band of untrained peasant thugs to professional assassins?

You can't just say "Oh, we'll just charm a powerful household into supporting us while we go hunting the most dangerous things possible in the woods, and we'll smash up tourneys because shield goes clang"

Dude. Do you not remember how the Basilisk fight went? And how much prestige did we get out of that? Minimal. Compared to being a Dragon Guard? How many Basilisk equivalents would we have to kill.

Or waging a 5 man war on the Foe? That's simply unreasonable.

Do you want to start copperclipping instead, trying to leverage our investments? Because the only reason we're seeing such a return is because it was extremely high risk.

Working with the Ordos Praetor is the only reasonable thing you said. I'm sure being a politically sensitive character won't see us relegated to the most mundane of duties during our time with them.

You're saying we can just waltz out and do all these like we've already succeeded.

In Cathagi we already have the Stratioski caste friendly towards us, and Patrikas can possibly help us find support from the Aethernum as well, on top of having the DG recommendation ensuring that we have a relatively safe status because ain't nobody in Cathagi gonna intentionally fuck with the Dragons stuff. Not openly, at least. How pisses would the Dragon be if someone murdered one of his personal guards slash ornaments?
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>>4373189
Also let me point out that nobody in Cathagi particularly wants to kill us.

Let alone arguably one of the three most powerful people in the country.
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>>4373222

>His Heart Knows Only Virtue

We're not married and having a kid accidentally is only on 0 successes from what we know.

>His Blade Defends the Helpless

Frida straight up despised her brother's behavior. Once she realizes our 'golden boy' act isn't one, she'll just utilize that if we do end up scheming together.

>His Might Upholds The Weak

Already upheld this oath, even to a bloody peasant to the detriment of our relationship with Sinclair.

>His Words Speaks Only Truth

Broke it, did Penance. This clearly only applies to major lies, rather than ones of omission and the like, and in the worst case scenario, we can just keep our damn mouth shut.

>His Wrath Undoes the Wicked

We haven't taken this oath, nor have we ever broke it. Literally got an ordained knight executed for being a total shitter.

TL;DR: You're not just a whinny twat, you're a wrong whinny twat.
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>>4373209
Let me sum up. We can take a boat to Cathagi, complete our Pilgramage, sign up for the Dragonguard and already have gained a large amount of wealth as well as prestige.

Then have another two years to build on that, while being in the perfect position to develop a relationship with the actual Queen, the leader of our Faith, while completing Sir Gilberns loyalty mission.

Additionally, I'm sure there will be opportunities to make money and and connections.

We can even interfere with the Cathagi who are working with the Prince while we're there if we want to try and reduce or stop altogether the funding his faction is recieving from them.

DG has way more opportunities, pays off much sooner, and is much safer.
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>>4373244
>Also let me point out that nobody in Cathagi particularly wants to kill us.

Yet. Honestly we don't know what kind of people we upset with our meddling in the slave trade. Would they go and spend resources for revenge because we wanted uphold the law in our kingdom? Hard to say.

I honestly believe that our next best move would be to spill the beans to Sir Robert Gilbern about everything. Have with him our mini inquiry and try to join faction or at least point out that we don't want trouble with him.
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>>4371883 Changing my vote for this write-in : >>4371627
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>>4373209
If he wanted us gone immediately, he would have not threatened us. He would have ordered our death. We are not his priority at the moment.

Should we involve ourselves more? Well duh. That's why Emile needs to find a political patron if we decide to stay in Canton.

>>4373240
Your rebuttals come down to 'What if X goes wrong?' and "I fear Basilisks'.

The first can *always* happen, even in the DG. We could roll really badly or pick the wrong choices and get fucked. We could court those Houses who are against the Prince and have sheer bad luck, for example. Or get a ship-wreck in our journey to Cathagi. That's the risk of playing a Quest, you cannot play it safe because there's nothing safe and sacred.

The second reason is just as ridicolous. Forget the Basilisk, we rolled a nat 100 with Gabriel and he died, should we avoid combat forever in fear of dying? No, it's stupid.

And we would have enemies in Cathagi too. Those who hate Cantonians, possible Prince's agents or SoS, enemies of the Patrikas or Stratioski caste.

Canton has its risks. It also has its rewards. Do not fear-monger and claim there is only danger there.

>>4373229
Do not feed the Montbrunfag, he's fat as he is.
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Honestly the most important thing right now is getting Damien on that boat, and figuring out what mess Ros has tied herself up in. Poppa Bear sent her to Pascae for a reason, and it's looking like it might not just be 'keep your brothers safe' and instead 'keep your own nose clean.'
It could be that an adventure with Ros awaits in Cathago. Or it might be covering for her in Canton. I'd take protecting family over Dragon Guard, but we'll see I suppose.
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>>4373266
You're talking the risks are somehow comparable.

DG - Minimal risk to get wealth and prestige, moderate risk to act on behalf of the Queen, ??? Risk trying to interfere with the Princes Cathagi partners.

Canton - Extremely high risk just from being there. Fighting monsters is high risk, and the prestige from slaying them is low per monster. Participating in tourneys and fighting monsters rmeans more rolls where a nat 100 could kill Emile.

And Gabe died because players didn't think to weigh the risk of insisting on still fighting despite being in a bad situation already. The nat 100 didn't kill him alone, players refusal to admit they lost put him in the position where a nat 100 could kill him.
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>>4373246
>We're not married and having a kid accidentally is only on 0 successes from what we know.

Doesn't matter we're gonna actively try to break it.

>Frida straight up despised her brother's behavior. Once she realizes our 'golden boy' act isn't one, she'll just utilize that if we do end up scheming together.

She hired thugs to have us murdered for her house.

>Already upheld this oath, even to a bloody peasant to the detriment of our relationship with Sinclair.

Upholding it once doesn't mean that we'll continue to uphold it.

>Broke it, did Penance.

An insincere penance without good faith. It will be broken again and again.

>This clearly only applies to major lies, rather than ones of omission and the like, and in the worst case scenario, we can just keep our damn mouth shut.

No where does it say in the code does it say anything that. It applies to lies regardless of whether they're big. small, or whatever kind and the like. There will be scenarios where keeping your mouth shut is impossible.

>We haven't taken this oath

Doesn't matter. All codes apply regardless of whether you've taken them or not. We had not taken His Word Speak Only Truth when we violated it and broke it.

>nor have we ever broke it. Literally got an ordained knight executed for being a total shitter.

Because we have never been in a situation where upholding it wasn't convenient and breaking it and violating it was.
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>>4373266
> And we would have enemies in Cathagi too. Those who hate Cantonians, possible Prince's agents or SoS, enemies of the Patrikas or Stratioski caste.

None of them have nearly as much reason to kill us as the Prince does, nor the ability to do so.

We don't actually present a threat to any of those factions in the first place, so it's unlikely they'll decide to move against us unless we move first.

Even then already have some backing from the Stratioski caste which is far more than we have in Canton.

I can't believe you're trying to equate "Some random racist Cathagi could try to kill us" as being on par with the Prince trying to kill us.

The Princes partners might be warned to keep an eye out for us, but it's unlikely they would take the risk of attempting to kill us as their first response.

Same with Patrikas enemies. If they killed everyone who attended a Ball with her I'm sure they wouldn't have time to get much else done.

As for the rivals of the Stratioski - why? It's not like it'll undo us saving Eustace and wossisname from Beastmen. What benefit would there be in opposing Emile, a foreigner with a DG recommendation but who isn't bringing any tangible benefit to the Stratioski. Once again, I highly doubt they just try to kill anyone who has associated with them.

Compared to the Prince who is convinced we're actively working against him as we have ruined his plans multiple times especially his attempt to retrieve Anarchy. That was kind of a big deal.

True, we might make choices that result in us making enemies, but that hasn't actually happened so I don't think you can really claim it to be a risk significant to worry about.
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I think a lot of us overestimate the threat the Prince perceives us as. He was very dismissive of us, letting us know that he knows a lot about us(but not everything) and telling us that once we get to Cathagi to stay there. We are far down on his list of priorities, simply an irritant to be removed if convenient. The problems we have caused for him have all been while helping others that were causing problems for him. We contributed, but were not the sole cause of his woe. If we do come back, he would likely only make a move against us if it was convenient and not out of the way, or if we started making more problems for him. If he wanted us dead now, there is no question that we would be dead. With all of his resources, killing us would be easy.
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>>4373317
I think you underestimate how convenient it is for the Prince to get rid of us.
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>>4373291
The nat 100 argument doesn't mean much - that's just luck and could happen anytime. Not a good reason not to do anything.

DG being minimal risk is really downplaying the possible risks that come with being the foreign bodyguard of a Dragon.While the extreme risk of Canton can be downplayed by siding with the Queensmen - and so get their assistance and protection.

Mind you, I do agree that DG is more likely to be less dangerous. But A) it doesn't mean it will be safe, B) I like the direct influence we could have on Canton, C) I like the idea of the Idealistic knight not listening to the villain and fucking him up in return.

>>4373298
The mere friendship with someone means their enemies will not see in us in a good light. Especially whoever wants Ianthe dead, since we didn't listen to their demands.

While they do not need to kill us, they could very well act against us - which can just as damning as death.

And once again you are overestimating just how much the Prince wants us dead for a simple 0 success roll. But since that's a point neither us of will budge on, I doubt the conversation will move on anytime soon.
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>>4371627
>"'Chapter 1, Verse 61: Yet the Agony of this present time is not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.' How -do- you see me, Sanguine?"
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>>4373330
> DG being minimal risk is really downplaying the possible risks that come with being the foreign bodyguard of a Dragon.

Wut. The inherent danger in the job renowned for being increadibly easy and safe acting as essentially a living decoration?

And having direct influence on Canton doesn't mean we would have the same influence. If the goal is to prevent a civil war, I fail to see how we could contribute more than helping the Queen stabilize her power base so she can continue to suppress the Prince.

As for the Medusae cast being upset that we didn't accept their bribe to betray our escort slash employer, I highly doubt they'll take personal offense.

If they approach us at all, it might even be to try and work with us for something because they know we don't take bribes and can be trusted. It's not like we work for Patrikas, or the Stratioski. Who don't even have a conflict with the Medusae as far as we know. Currently the Merchant class is rising in influence and starting to challenge the Medusae for dominance, with the Stratioski having fallen fairly far in the ranks. That's why they wanted to capture the wolf even if it meant traveling into Canton themselves without their slaves and losing free men.

Actually, since the rise of the Merchant class is possibly related to their recent trade with House Hewitt, it could be very feasible we would aid the Medusae if we can put a stop to the slave trade.

Which we plan on doing anyways, but maybe on their end they can provide us with evidence of who is involved in the trade that we can send back to Gilbern. We could strike a blow against the Prince's Faction, build a relationship with the strongest Cathagi faction, stop some slaving, and stick it to some copper clippers.
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>>4373349
> Wut. The inherent danger in the job renowned for being increadibly easy and safe acting as essentially a living decoration?

Yes. Because I very much doubt that's all there is to that job or it wouldn't pay that much or be so prestigious.

> If the goal is to prevent a civil war, I fail to see how we could contribute more than helping the Queen stabilize her power base so she can continue to suppress the Prince.
The SoS and/or the Prince has to go, there's no other way to stop a civil war. Eventually the King and Queen will be too old to deal with his shit.

> We could strike a blow against the Prince's Faction, build a relationship with the strongest Cathagi faction, stop some slaving, and stick it to some copper clippers.
Sure. Or we could stay in Canton and strike a bigger blow against the Prince's Faction, build relationship with various Houses, still stop some slaving, smashing copper clippers and more.

We could fail in both paths. We could succeed in both paths. We could die in both paths. One is riskier for sure, but has better rewards IMO.
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>>4373330
Also the Prince doesn't want us dead for JUST a 0 success roll. We were both responsible for capturing Vancewell despite his relationship with the Prince, and we were directly responsible for the Jays attacking the Mercs so they couldn't aid in the fight against the Reginae Knights, and we were responsible for Anarchy being siezed by the Queensmen.

On top of that we just blew up Pascae and severely weakened Lord Gilberns authority in Pascae, who is definitely only on his own side but is clearly working with the Prince's faction.

Besides, think about how it would look to his allies if this one minor noble Knight was able to act against him without any consequence. If we continue to stay and act in Canton it says that he can't even handle an individual Knight with no backing or resources, how can people expect him to hold his ground against the King and Queen?

Someone brought up Frederic Barbarossa consumating his marriage to his second wife publicly before his court to prove that his failure to produce an heir with his first wife wasn't due to inability on his part. Reputation is really, really important in a Feudal society.

If we insist on being a visible presence who opposes him, he'll be obligated to prove that our previous success was just an unexpected fluke by squashing us thoroughly.
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>>4373368
Considering that this roll could have resulted in him interested in Emile? Yeah, it's a bit of overblown as reaction.

As for actions, Hans wasn't much of a player in his faction (given that nobody seems to mention him as important), the business in Pascae is annoying but hardly cause to see *all* his plots there dry up all of a sudden. Stopping Anarchy is probably the only real pain in the ass. Even then, in his interaction he was dismissive not irate, which gives us a full perception of what Emile is to him - an annoying thorn, but nothing more.

But, let's assume this minor noble is actually making him really salty because he's a huge wrench in his plans. That means that the enemies of the Princes would be more than happy to help Emile - exactly the kind of protection we need in Canton. So you are defeating your own 'Emile is helpless' point there.
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I wish we were playing an MC with actual character (like a Cynic Pascae copper clipper) instead of a pathetic, copypasted, simp version of Gabriel. The only differences between Emile and Gabriel are:

>1. Emile's weapon is a sword while Gabriel's weapon was a morningstar.

>2. Emile is Strong while Gabriel was Skilled.

>3. Emile is from Romaine while Gabriel was from Aubres.

And that's pretty much it. Everything else is the same. They're both Idealist. They're both Hearty. They're both Haughty. They both have the same type of Purebred Warhorse. They both have the same fighting style (one-handed weapon and a shield). They're both knob head cunts in armour.
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>>4373441
There's one more difference that I forgot to include. Emile has plot armour while poor old Gabriel didn't.
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>>4373441
Well the mc we do have dose have actual character it just dosnt seem to be one you wanted.
Most people wanted a re-do which is way its a bit copy past.
Im totaly down for something completely differnt if current mc dies.
Mybe a thorny asshole kinght or a court dancing coppler cliper kinght.
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>>4373455
No, he's a shitty copypasted version of Gabriel with zero character. He might as well be a blank slate at this point.

I honestly don't care what type of knight MC we go with if the current one dies. Anything is better than Emile.
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>>4373384
> Prince Lionel does not sneer cruelly at your speechlessness, nor does he crow his advantage over you like some adolescent farmhand bully. Instead he nods resignedly, like a master swordsman who had been challenged by someone far beneath his skill.

He's not dismissive of what we've done, he's quite clearly hostile to us. He's dismissive or our ability, since it turns out we don't have any backing and we didn't foil his plans by actively seeking them out but instead by making a mess of things with no consideration who we might offend. The only reason we were so successful was because there was no reason to suspect we would involve ourselves.

Not like they could plan for us catching Hast for the murder of some peasants despite him being a noble of higher standing and connections with the Prince and Duke Mountbrum.

Nor that we would aid our Damien and the Jays in attacking the mercs during the Reginae Knights attack on the Faction Knights preventing them from repulsing the Reginates. Even less that we would notice the fight with Anarchy and choose to involve ourselves and side with the Reginates, and our beatdown of Anarchy was just ridiculous.

We solved the murders in Pascae in like, 3 days. By kidnapping a dude and interrogating the existence of the evidence out of him, and then immediately convincing the Praetorians to storm the Hole with us and sieze the evidence before getting permission or informing their superiors of what they were going to do.

But enough is enough. Despite us not actually being affiliated with the Princes opponents, we're definitely too high profile to leave alone. I imagine Lord Vancewell in particular is pushing for the Faction to take action against us, and he is not a peripheral member. Marquis Fallavon, Duke Fallavons heir, was courting Frida which confirms that House Vancewell is considerable an acceptably equal match. Of course we ended up crippling Caspian, which put a damper on the courting I presume. Shame, because that would have drawn the notiriously independent Duke Fallavon closer into his Faction. Of course he probably saw us gain her favour tonight as well.

Sir Hewitt is likely also pushing for the Faction to move against us, and while House Hewitt isn't exactly the most powerful or prestigous House, they are a major source of funds for the alliance.

So that's at least two influential Faction members who would be more than happy to see Emile dead for personal reasons. Combined with our rising profile resulting in our involvement in foiling the Prince's plans and our utter lack of any backing there's a not a lot of reasons for him *not* to act against us in a very thorough and definitive fashion to warn off anyone else who might think that they can interfere with his goals for personal reasons and remain neutral.
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>>4373469
with zero character?? Il have to disagree with you there mate.

Geezz man, way to shit all over qms stroy building and character making skills.
Well have fun beening salty butthurt over the mc.
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>>4373481
Yeah, with zero character. Having another character might not even help because the actions and beliefs of a character mean little and aren't precedents here.

Forgotten is a QM who's numerous mistakes and errors alone have changed the direction of the story. Broulert might still be alive if he had actually counted the DC correctly.
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>>4373481
Ignore him.
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>>4373490
just leave then
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hey forgotten whats the rules for warform stance? or is that too meta?
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>>4373384
As for the Queensmen, I'm sure they're thankful for the results of our actions. And Gratitude is priceless - by which I mean it costs nothing.

We firet declined to join Sir Gilbern on his mission, so we missed out there. We then extracted our brother whom they were hunting, who was consorting with traitors and heretics and actively helping them clearly showing that we are loyal to our family first.

We then aided the Jays ourselves, taking advantage of the Queensmen' assault on the mine to launch our own assault in the mercenaries who were the Jays enemies alreadyz and freeing the Beastmen slaves. They then retreated, their objective achieved, leaving the Queensmen to their fate. While we fought beside them against Anarchy, after the battle we refused to reveal our identity and fled the scene. Regarding the murder investigation in Pascae, we pursued that so we could get get help from the Praetorians to pursue the slave ring in the city. Instead of capitalizing in the political value of the ledger, we realeased it in full clearly dispelling any question that our raid was politically motivated.

Let's not even discuss how the company we keep is suspicious AF. Norwache, Patrikas, Towbray, all of them have suspicious close associations with non-Queensmen factions.

Emile himself still has the whole Angelic visions deal, and when we give our testimony about hearing it for the first tine while Anarchy mind raped us will definitely be very concerning for them.

The Queensmen can't really be expected to owe us for acting in our own interests and repeatedly refusing to becone involved with them even when our goals aligned.

Emile has no assets to contribute to the Queensmen, no political ties to people who do, is under observation by the Prince and offended powerful people everywhere along the way who the Queensman would much rather join hands with. Crippling M. Fallavon then pursuiing the Lady he was courting up until said crippling, disfiguring S. Sinclair and losing his sisters favour, killing De Broulet in a duel despite having been disarned but allowed by his opponent to reclaim his weapon and continue. That's 4 heirs to influential houses Enile has fucked up. No way they wouldn't happily trade his support for any one of theirs.

The DG is the only real contribution Emile can make towards the Queensmen, and it's something they need too badly to turn down. It also would put us in a position to directly affect the conflict in Canton and prove our sincerity in joining the Queensmen.

Naturally they would then have a vested interest in protecting our family and fief while we are in Cathagi since we can't be expected to not leave the DG abruptly should anything happen to them.
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>vance well executed for rape
>hewitt executed for slavery
reckon we could get the prince for heresy
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>>4373557
I could go at length to counter how the oh-so-pissed Prince would have ordered our death instead of issuing a mere threat if we were truly a threat.
Or that Hewitt will mean jack soon or that Vancewell are noted to have friends in the King's court but the depth of their involvement with the Prince is still vague.
Or that our companions are far less unsavory than other stuff done by the Queensmen and that 3 unfriendly Houses do not represent all of Canton.

But I think I'll end it here by pointing out that you declare Queensmen would only offer gratitude if we offered our help. Unless we went to the DG. While you cry about ties to the Patrikas and Gilbern's suspicions of third parties.

My knigga, you need to review your case.
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>>4373595
> Foreign escort -10DC possible evidence of 3rd party loyalties

The malus we had for our rolls with Gilbern due to Patrikas outright stated it.

We have evidence of Marco Hewitts involvement, but we haven't brought him down yet and he might still have an out.

The Prince is obviously already pissed at us, I don't know how his attitude towards us wasn't clear enough for you.

Vancewell is powerful enough to marry into a freaking Duke, which is the highest rank other than nobility.

Additionally, Vancewell is allied with the Prince and Duke Mountbrun, not the Kings Court.

The issue of our companions isn't of their moral standing, but the fact that they all have connections with factions that are opposed to the Queensmen. Aside from Patrikas, Norwache was a Faction Knight, Towbray is a Reclaimer at odds with main Church doctrine.

Also while there are more than 3 houses in Canton, not all houses are equal. One of them is a Duke FFS who already was leaning towards the Prince, and House Sinclair

>"”Here comes my cousin!” The maiden Sinclair says excitedly. According to her House Sinclair is one of the more prominent Fallavon holdings, with lands dotted out in pockets across the north and west of the region."

the balance of power between the Prince and his parents is currently fairly equal. A House of Sinclairs strength would definitely make a significant difference, let alone a Duke. As for Housr Broulet, we haven't got a clear picture but at the least they are quite popular among the Nobility in Pascae.

As for the Primce not ordering our death out of anger, have you considered that he might not be a one dimensional cartoon villain and doesn't kill people casually just because he's angry? We have no personal grudge against him, and we weren't intentionally trying to oppose him. We're just opposed to shady shit and keep running into shady shit he's pulling. That also distanced us from the Queensmen after we found out why they were pursuing our brother. We've snubbed them repeatedly in the past, and it's pretty obvious that we're approaching them now because we need protection from the Prince. Also because the Prince is fucking around with the Sons and after Anarchy we are very much against that. We still didn't approach the Queensmen after finding and fighting Anarchy tho, instead we directly refused to get involved further with them so we didn't risk exposing Damiens presence. So I doubt that they would believe we suddenly had a change of heart because of Sanguinius alone.

Sir Gilbern is the most moderate Herald, we discovered that when eavesdropping on him at the mine, and a Comrade but even he is unsure of where our loyalties lie and isn't willing to trust that we aren't intentionally involving ourselves in the conflict and fears we have played him for a fool. Literally what he said to us in this thread. That's the person in the Queensmen who likes us the most.
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one point in favor of the DG is emiles combat progression i would wager with the speed we have gone through the vows and aquired cain/adam points in the last 6 months by the time we return from the DG we will outclass most other lordlings who spent there time on more intellectual and frivolous pursuits meaning any assassin will be hard pressed to kill us let alone survive a attempt on our life and if we have to honour duel agony because of some prince bullshit as that's the worst option facing a sos with no backup or ambush bonus we will have the skills to hold our own
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>>4373785
Speaking of vows, its been a while since we got one
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>>4373785
> The assassin has piosoned your ale.
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>>4373820
>the assassin teleports behind you
also fuck hope there is no sos assassin
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>>4373826
Maybe but I think the Cathagi had/has a small kasta that serve as assassins, possible the smallest and most discrete of the kastas, with their own Old Man of the Mountain analog. But it's equally likely that among the masses of slave soldiers, gladiators and common slaves that rebelled with the Brothers there were slaves raise and train to murder targets quietly.
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>>4373817
that 20 dc bonus from his heart knows only truth will be great for the inquire
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>>4373826
> SoS assassin is the same as the rest, just and order of magnitude larger than their already abnormal size.

> He doesn't use stealth or traps, just charges unstoppably to his target to tear them apart.
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>>4373947
>wears a mask to protect his identity
>fights purely with wrestling moves
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>>4373958
>The fire rises brother
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>>4374020
>Emille has a whole Dark knight rises phase after getting destroyed by him
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>>4373448
Literally the reason why Emile survived Anarchy while Gabriel died to beastmen were because of luck. If Emile got 100 during the initial roll, he would probably fall head first on the ground and break his neck and die while if Gabriel got a 1, the beastman would be dead by that time. The basilisk would have killed Emile with his shit roll if it weren't for the success with rolling Jess dice.
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>>4374134
just reread it a 100 would of left us wounded with a broken leg and anarchy fine
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>>4374138
Still the 1 helped along with Emile's multiple Double Passes including the one from Anarchy's counter reroll.
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>>4374134
I'm talking about this:
https://archived.moe/qst/thread/3958282/#q3982689
https://archived.moe/qst/thread/3958282/#q3982860
https://archived.moe/qst/thread/3958282/#q3982750
https://archived.moe/qst/thread/3958282/#q3982761
https://archived.moe/qst/thread/3958282/#q3982772


>Basilisk is using NO re-rolls this round (it is confident of victory)

>Basilisk is using ONE re-roll this round
>It doesn't use it

>Basilisk is using TWO re-rolls this round
>It uses only one

That basilisk had its re-rolls arbitrarily kept in the reserve for plot armour.
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>>4373783
Ironically that malus is worse than the one generated by our failed apology to de Broulert. But of course, a - 5DC is so terrible that we can't interact with other nobles ever.

Vancewell have friends at court as mentioned by Rabe. Of course they are friendly with the Prince, but *how* much is still not known.

Norwache? Turncoats are pretty common in intrigue as long as we increase his loyalty. Towbray is a Reclaimer, but for all of his zealotry he's hardly a thundering firebrand. That would be the really troubling kind of acquaintance.

Not all Houses are equal indeed. House Fallavon is EXPLICTLY Neutral in the pastebin, Sinclairs seem to have influence in Fallavon, de Broulert is a single House in Pascae, whose Duke has shown goodwill towards us.

That leaves three-four Duchies where we could grow political influence. Just avoid Fallavon (seriously, fuck that place) and possibly Aubrey.

*You* are the one who's making the Prince a one-dimensional villain, with all this 'and then he teleports assassins behind you and you die'. Do you know why the ruthless man makes threats to the no-name knight instead of killing him off? Because he's not worth the trouble at the moment.

And we didn't snub the Queensmen. Hell, we said to Gilbern that we wouldn't have minded being a spy for him. We've kept ourselves neutral, which is different from snubbing a political faction.
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>>4374232
Oh, and the Basilisk still had one re-roll left when combat ended. The only reason for why the Basilisk didn't use it would be to burn it to save itself should it be defeated, but it never did burn it. This means the Basilisk didn't use its one last re-roll for no reason whatsoever.

Emile never managed to inflict even a single damage point on the Basilisk. All the damage that the Basilisk sustained came from Jess (the one who really defeated the Basilisk)

Emile would be dead right now without Jess' aid/help to save his life and the Basilisk holding back its re-rolls.
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Okay I've had a night and a day to think about this and I know Im being an autistic cunt but bear with me anons Im working through this

>But for now, I want you to leave. Leave this party, leave this Duchy, sail away from my kingdom across the seas to Cathagi like you plan.”

This is absolutetly a warning to not fuck with him or his ambition I cannot argue this and it is also a dismissal of the highest that we are unworthy of his attention at this point so whatever our aim is to him at this point is worth no more than dismissal furthermore

>And if you have the slightest bit of sense, I suggest you stay there

The threat and warning is clearly made to us so he offers us this parting pittance. we can stay in Canton his realm is open to us as long as we are not a threat to him or his stronger Canton
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>>4374261
> we can stay in Canton his realm is open to us as long as we are not a threat to him or his stronger Canton

But that would mean we would have to be confined to our home fief.

If people see us walking around fine, knowing that we ruined several of the Prince's plans, then it'll make him look weak.

I don't think the Prince particularly wants to kill Emile, but he's simply gotten too involved for the Prince to not take action while Emile is just out there, walking around fine.

I have no idea how you got "If you have the slightest bit of sense, you won't return" to mean the Prince is fine with us returning and that his realm is open to us.

Maybe in a couple years after things have settled down. But right away?
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>>4374477
>>4374261
We are more in danger of one else trying to get the Prince's favor by dealing with us, than the Prince himself bothering to order someone to do us harm. We are a small fry like that, but we have definitively annoy him and brought ourselves to his attention by talking to him.
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>>4374477
Not necessarily, half the plans we have ruined are secrets semi-open secrets considering their scale but still secrets nonetheless and any weakness is easily deflected by him.

>I have no idea how you got "If you have the slightest bit of sense, you won't return" to mean the Prince is fine with us returning and that his realm is open to us.

because unless I got it wrong its his parting words to us and the implication being that IF we want a strong king and a strong Canton we should stay in Canton and help build it, that said finishing the vigil is advisable even if it is to just let him think we are considering what he said and aren't horrified by whats he's dealing in.

>>4374481
at the same time we didn't provoke that response here & now with a double or a critfail, sure some copperclipper fuckwit can take a swing at us but thats liable to happen anywhere we go particularly after collapsing the crime network in pascae.
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>>4374486
>because unless I got it wrong its his parting words to us and the implication being that IF we want a strong king and a strong Canton we should stay in Canton and help build it, that said finishing the vigil is advisable even if it is to just let him think we are considering what he said and aren't horrified by whats he's dealing in.
I don't see how you managed to interpret this as him making us a offer to join him. It's basically telling us to fuck off and don't come back.
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>>4374487
Yeah a total fucking misread on my part and I've only just realised
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Fuck me I take back everything I said short of the DG jesus christ I'm an idiot
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>>4374490
Welp, nevermind the reply I just wrote up then haha
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>>4374491
well now my idiocy has robbed me of a good conversation dammit.

okay yeah prince sees our meedling and doesn't like it, shit its enough for him to take the effort of threatening us, I'm still of the opinion his threat is a bit overblown even though its a thing to be wary of.
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Im Emil Anders the knight
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If we are looking for a way to more permanently defeat the SoS, the Fae should know. since they somehow manged to kill Adam, after the deal with Sin was struck

The Queen and her Heralds might also want to know that the prince's bodyguard is one of them as well if they don't already know.


We probably could have used the Boon we got a little bit better, had we realized this at the time.
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>>4374505
Im pretty sure we could find a way by risking mind & sanity scouring the darkest reaches of the world but even then we might not.
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So how do we feel about talking to Sir Gilbern and informing him of our suspicions regarding Sanguine? In all likelihood he already knows but he may be able to provide information about how to deal with them in general, how to keep your sanity etc and (assuming this is something we want) it would be a work around for revealing ourselves to him without actually breaking the oath
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>>4374505
But what if they never killed Adam but broke him, letting the negative aspects of his sin take over. What if he is chained beneath his Chappel in the wall?
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>>4374514
It's already been mentioned that Sir Gilbern as Second Herald can release us from the oath.
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>>4374514
I think talking to him is a good idea, it establishes a well connected friend in the queensman faction so that if we do jump factions we'd have some standing, we could introduce him to Ros we all know we want them shadowrunning together and if nothing else it would be nice to do so.
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>>4374520
I'm aware but that's not what I'm talking about. If the inquiry doesn't go ahead he wont do that. I'm not looking for an out, just an open conversation with him about basically all of it
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>>4374522
What I'm saying is even if we approach him privately he can release us from the oath anyway so there's no need to dance around the topic.
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>>4374514
It would also be good to know which of the SoS are currently chained, otherwise known to be sealed or otherwise engaged , as it would help us narrow down Sir "Sanguine"s identity.
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>>4374524
Ok sure, the main crux of my suggestion though is how we all feel openly talking to him about SoSs in general and our suspicions about Sanguine. I might be misremembering but I think that whilst he may suspect us he doesn't outright know we were there
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We are of course assuming he'll believe us in the first place if we tell the truth but he could also see it as Kingsman ploy to learn confidential and highly dangerous information from a friend, should we fail we'd surely burn our friendship with him and possibly make ourselves enemies of the queensmen as well.

just somethng to consider.
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>>4374529
That's true but I feel reciting our vow and giving him a play by play on exactly what happened and (most) of how we got there should probably convince him
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>>4374527
Oh yeah I'd say with Sir Gilbern honesty is the best policy in order to clear things between us.
>>4374529
>>4374530
I'm sure Lord Alexandi told about about that unknown knight in the ruins, plus we still have that silver chain with us.
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>>4374530
oh don't get me wrong the truth would almost certainly help immensely but if we should fail the consequences would be almost certainly extreme and a double fail or crit is always possible.
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>could have used the Boon we got a little bit better

We hired Craig hoping to get a long-term tracker/archer for our party.

Ended up getting Jess, who not only fulfilled those two qualities, but is also so stealthy that not even the Prince knows she exists.
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>>4374537
Well yeah but I don't think we should make choices based around fear of failed rolls. It's one thing to hedge our bets against outright risky or foolish actions but another thing entirely choose what we do based on the worst possible outcome of a dice roll
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>>4374543
oh yeah I just voice my concern because we really need to consider context & ambition for the DC.

all in all I'm in for talking to sir Gilbern just maybe feel him out before we discuss something sensitive like the SoS
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>>4374547
Yeah that's fair enough
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>>4374547
>>4374548
Considering some of the info we know could only be known by someone who was there personally with a good enough write-in I could see Forgotten granting an auto-success.
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I Lovell all your guys m

Event Montbrun fag!
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Salve Reginae forgives all
TEQUILAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>4374768
>>4374771

Thank you Forgotten. Very cool.
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>>4374768
Love you too you raging homo.
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>>4374768

“And lo did Salve Reginae love Man so much that she forgave all of their transgressions, including those who tortured her such.”

“Really? She forgives all? Even the degenerates, villainous, and unrepentant?”

“Yes, child, she forgave the Langlish, Copper-clippers, and Samefags. Even Montbrunfag was forgiven.”
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>>4374771
Drinking at 4 am? Go to bed fag
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-A depiction of Forgotten being nailed to the Cross. Circa 2020 CE, origination: /qst/
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>anybody I don't like is montbrunfag.
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>>4374882
To be fair, the guy flipping his shit of Frida and hoping Emile dies is clearly a Montbrunfag
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>>4374902
Its almost like its the same guy that goes off the rails mad when a vote doesn't goes his way or the guy that was mad as fuck at the Sons of Sin revelation.
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>>4374882
Montbrunfag is anyone who tears your arguments apart AND you don't like. I've seen multiple anons get labeled Montbrunfag (including myself twice) throughout this quest's threads.

I doubt the actual anon who shilled like crazy for a Montbrun knight MC in the early threads even follows this quest anymore. It's truly amazing how he managed to live rent-free in the heads of so many followers of this quest.
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>>4374933
> who tears your arguments apart

That's really how you see it? Nah, a Mountbrunfag is someone who wants tondo something, and comes up with increasingly ridiculous arguments in order to justify while insisting he's winning the argument.

See this guy >>4374489? Clearly not a Mountbrunfag.

Being inable to accept you are wrong is being a Mountbrunfag.

> Single ID voter
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>>4374933
Like I pereonally went a little nuts shadowrunning against the Queensmen. But they spent a significant amount of time trying to kill our brother for being a witness to them massacaring innocent commoners for being employed to dig a mine.

They seem like people who really, really consider the ends justifying the means.
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>>4374947
Not a big fan of the Queensmen, but I don´t see us gaining or even wanting to buy ourselves a way back to the prince good graces.
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>>4374933
>who tears your arguments apart
You are not as smart as you think you are
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>>4374939
>That's really how you see it? Nah, a Mountbrunfag is someone who wants tondo something, and comes up with increasingly ridiculous arguments in order to justify while insisting he's winning the argument.

>Being inable to accept you are wrong is being a Mountbrunfag.

So...it's just like I and the other anon said. ''Montbrunfag'' has nothing to do with the player who shilled for a knight MC from Montbrun, but it is instead just a meaningless label for anyone who tears your arguments apart and you don't like. Thanks for confirming it.

>>4374947
I couldn't care less about your shadowruning against the Queensmen. If you're looking for an argument about that, then look for someone else.
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>>4374969
2 post ID refuting everything reasonable people say... guys... it's Montbrunfag
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>>4374975

To be fair to Montbrunfag, at least he actually argues over something that exists within the lore.

Looking at you, Turtlewolf-lover.
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>>4374983
I don't know how I miss the Turtlewolf discussion, I don't remember it at all.
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We can start calling you Simpfag if it pleases you more anon.
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>>4374989

I wish I didn't.
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>>4374983
I mean firstly turtlewolf is a meme and talked/argued about totally in jest so... yeah

But also even just in this thread I've spent a considerable (too much) amount of time arguing in game stuff about Emile, politics, where we should go and what we should do etc
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>>4374983
DON'T YOU TALK SHIT ABOUT OUR SPECIAL SHELLED WOLFY BOIS.

One day we will find them and make the most glorious of armor.
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>>4374989
That's because some guy mentioned it only a couple of times. It was just so bizarre that people picked up on it.

I genuinely kind of hope we do run into turtle wolves at some point now.
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>>4375010
Haha I honestly kind of hope Forgotten includes it in Cathagi or something as a rare type of armour or fine clothing etc. It would be hilarious
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>>4375013
It's just so weird. Like. If we're hunting for the shell why don't we hunt an actual turtle?

I sometimes wonder if the guy didn't speak english as his first language and was talking about crocodiles.
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>>4375022
Honestly he was my all time favourite anon. His desire for turtle-wolves was just so pure. Like he just imagined this shit up one day and it was immediately like "this animal is the most majestic and precious one of all, we must hunt it" and couldn't fathom how weird it was. Fond memories
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>>4375027
There was also that guy who was weirdly like, really homesick for Emile. He wanted nothing more than to return to Romaine to see his mum.

Which was nice, but he just hated any plan to do anything else.
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>>4375050
There was also the guy who wanted to tell mom we lost our virginity in the letter. Hilarious.
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>>4375052
>>4375050

Oh man, outside of the awful never ending, shit flinging arguments (which I admit to perpetuating from time to time) this community can be fucking hilarious
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>>4375059
We wouldn't fling shit if we didn't care. Besides, most of the time once a vote has passed everyone gets on board.

We definitepy have the best memes.
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>>4375094

StV memes are chef's kiss.
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the deadman crusade is going to be lit af
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcrrx7l1hGY
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>>4375541
This one I can get behind.
>>4375536
Needs a little cleanup, but too real.
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>>4375541
Man. Fuck Fallavon.
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>>4375549
I actually enjoy the arguing.
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>>4376357
me too
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>>4376357
Arguments are fun but in Sworn to valor some seem to just get to entrenched in a right or wrong mindset about things and that theirs a be all end all to Emille as a character instead of him being fairly Dynamic.
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>>4377182
That's why I think it's always better to argue for doing something, as opposed to try and argue against doing something.

I notice that when people argue against something, it's because they want to do something else. That's when they start misrepresenting things or trying to find ways to "prove" Emile wouldn't do something.
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>>4377258
I guess the two of those are fairly indistinguishable at times, concentric circles and all that, but yeah arguing for a thing rather than against a thing others want to do seems healthier.
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>>4377272
I think it would be fun to have a rule that if you argue about something for a certain number of posts, you have to write an argument for the other side.
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>>4377305
Yeah but I don't want to shill for my opponent /s

seriously though that would probably take some of the bite out of things if people could do that.
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>>4377320
If they aren't able to do so, the they should stop arguing at that point.
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>>4377345
Fair, but harsh.
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I'm slowly catching up to this quest by reading the archive. Best shit I read on /qst/ for sure, amazing job, Forgotten. Currently on thread 19, the sense of creeping dread as I'm approaching the end of already written stuff is becoming unbearable. send help
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Welcome aboard! I'll do what I can.

This update will be the last for a while as I need to get settled into the new location and job. I intend to start another thread wrapping things up in Port Bounty before we conclude this Sworn to Valour chapter for now, but I don't know when that might be.
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>>4377505
No prob Forgotten.
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> “And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?” Something is wrong about this man, but you wish to know more. You -need- to know more. [Haughty]
>And "fare thee well brothers" they said as they stood their ground in the pass. "Once more shalt we meet, at your journey's end." For greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life in defence of another. A very good idea, I think this is more than enough to goad the Paladin Sanguine. I’m happy to include write-in verses like these, though I hope you don’t mind if I exercise my discretion.

“And "fare thee well brothers" they said as they stood their ground in the pass. "Once more shalt we meet, at your journey's end." For greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life in defence of another.” You pause, watching as the giant knight in red begins shaking. Subtly at first and then virtually contorting as a deep rumble builds in the chestplate. Something strikes you as inherently wrong about the Paladin Sanguine, a sensation that you had not experienced even when you first encountered that murderous dastard Sir Hast Vancewell.

HAHAHAhahaah!” The Paladin Sanguine bursts into wild laughter, shaking with mirth as several attendees pause in their conversation turn to look at what was so funny. “Dear little righteous knight, do you even know who[/b you’re quoting?”

“The Book of Brothers, of course.” You reply, momentarily puzzled and unsure of your verses. You had expected some other sort of reaction from the Paladin Sanguine. “Saint Adam, Chapter III verse… 39?

“Of course it is. Of course. Verse 37, actually.” The Paladin Sanguine does not sniff derisively, but the sniff is there. “The night grows late for this exchange of scripture. I wish you the very best on your pilgrimage. Very important for such a promising young knight, shows the right amount of piety. If that’s what you want. Do not pay too much heed to the Prince’s… advice in the matter. Return to us, as soon as you can. You are destined for greater things than exile. Like I said, he does not see you as I do.”

“And how -do- you see me, Sanguine? What do you want?”

“I see untapped potential. Someone who could use a friend. An ally in the wars to come. As for what I want?” The Paladin Sanguine leans in close, his voice dropping to a whisper. “I want what we all want deep down, Emile. Money. Adoration. Power. I want it ALL”.

There it is again, the taste of hot metal on the tip of a needle. Not the pain itself, but the phantom of it.

“And where we are going, there will be plenty enough of that for all. Ours is the righteous path, after all. Faithful to man’s true nature.” You feel heady, barely hearing the last words of the Paladin Sanguine before he leaves. “Come back to us, Emile. Come back soon.”

[1/3]
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“Emile, are you alright?” You start at the sound of your brother’s voice. Concern is writ plain upon his face. “You look awfully pale. Is it your injuries?”

“I think…” Your left hand is shaking, you tuck it away to your side. “I think we should go.”

“I wholeheartedly agree.” Roselyn looks equally concerned, though it is perhaps sparked more by the Prince’s fairly public show of disfavour than your current dread. “Our carriage awaits outside, the Patrikas is coming with us to the docks before you see her home.”

You cannot understand what you felt back there. It was all too similar to the catacombs, the creature there… You frown. The Crown Prince, the meddling Dukes and nobility, the Paladin Sanguine. A haunting notion sits in the pit of your stomach, terrible enough that you suppress it. To even address the gnawing fear would force you to consider it in full, and possibly even acknowledge it. By the Almighty, you hope you’re wrong.

“We’re heading off as well, and back to my home mountains in a few days. None too soon, mind you. Sir Karlaus Rabe growls, shifting uncomfortably in his black raven-styled formal attired. “I have had more than enough of this fancy southerner nonsense. I mean look at me! A warrior of Montbrun, dressed like a bloody stuffed pheasant…”

“Oh you do go on sometimes, Kip.” Karlaus physically flinches at the use of his nickname in public, throwing his sister of sour look. “Don’t stink-eye me. I’m not watching you put in a tear in that expensive bit of cloth I picked out for you. Besides, tonight was far from a total loss.”

Lady Brunhilde Rabe’s last comment appears to have been directed at your elder brother, who positively beams when Lady Rabe takes his arm and allows him to escort her to her own carriage.

“Feh.” Sir Rabe snorts, shrugging at you before following them. “I like you Andreis. Hard heads for a bunch of southern flowers that let their women do the talking. But that brother of yours has some pisspoor taste.”

“What’s wrong, Emmy?” Roselyn sidles up to you, speaking in hushed tones at your elbow as the two of you leave the courtyard. “You can’t fool me. I’ve got an eye for these things, and you don’t scare easy.”

For a moment you are tempted to tell Roselyn everything, to risk sounding like a madman in explaining what you suspect of the Paladin Sanguine. To voice your suspicions and, if so, what critical danger the Kingdom of Cantôn may be in. But you hold your tongue. For one thing, you’re not sure how to do so without breaking your oath of secrecy. For another, you’re not entirely sure you aren’t going completely mad. You do tell your sister about what the Prince said though, that[/t] concern is at least enough in the real world that you don’t have to second-guess every thought.

[2/3]
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“Tying my own noose? What could he… I’ll have to be more careful.” Roselyn nods, recommitting herself to whatever scheme it was she thought the Prince meant. When she next speaks to you, the worry in her eyes is touching. You know she is using that as a tool to convince you, but it doesn’t make her concern any less genuine. “I know what you’re thinking, little brother. Please don’t defy the Prince. These people… they would have killed Damien for much less than the Prince’s personal displeasure. I think Mother will understand if you remain in Cathagi for a little while, in fact I rather think she’d insist.”

The carriage ride to the docks is a long one, you barely contribute a spare word to the conversation between Damien, Roselyn and Ianthe the entire way there. You feel that you should, this could be the last time you see your siblings for a long time. But the weight of these questions drags you away from the present.

The Prince wants you in self-imposed exile. His bodyguard, if the man is indeed not much more than that, says war is coming. No, not war. Wars. But when? This year? The next? A decade from now? And with who? Is the Faction making a play? A foreign invasion? Is there some unseen threat you have yet to anticipate?

You pray quietly for the Angel to give you some sign, to guide you on the right path. But there is no answer, the Taxiarch of Heaven cannot be summoned whenever you seek reassurance. Even though you sorely need it, even though this time of doubt and darkness is perhaps when you needed it most. By the time the ship that your brother and sister are boarding comes into view, you feel as though you have to some sort of decision…

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This can be subject to later change (like at the conclusion of your pilgrimage) but I will treat this as Emile making up his mind on his future course for now.

> Your place is at home, defending your family’s lands. Securing allies for the troubles of the future. Making yourself ready for war. You will finish your pilgrimage one day. After the dark times you fear to come. Assuming you survive the Prince’s displeasure. And the Paladin Sanguine’s attention. [Haughty]

> Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]

> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
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>>4377522
>Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]

Thanks for running Forgotten. See you next time.
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>>4377522
>Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]
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>>4377522
>> Your place is at home, defending your family’s lands. Securing allies for the troubles of the future. Making yourself ready for war. You will finish your pilgrimage one day. After the dark times you fear to come. Assuming you survive the Prince’s displeasure. And the Paladin Sanguine’s attention. [Haughty]
It sure sounds like Sanguine is Avarice.
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This is the last update of the thread. New ID votes that have not linked back to a previous vote will not be counted, etc. Behavior of some IDs means they will be discounted from the vote as well. I have given you guys plenty of warning before this, and no I don't mean just the anon accused of Montbrunfagging.

Other than that little hiccup, you guys are a genuinely awesome crowd and an absolute pleasure to QM for. This thread has been a goldmine of screaming and quality OC memes.
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>>4377522
>Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]
Thanks for running, good luck with the job.
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>>4372786
This is me.

>>4377532
Cheers mate.
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>>4377522
>> Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]

>>4377532
Take care of yourself forgotten. Keep us updated on your twitter. You will be missed.
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>>4377510
Oh fuck it was Avarice no wonder the prince is enthralled by him

>>4377522
> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]

I would like the option to remain open at least for now, we can discuss it at length when we actually get there as their is obviously a lot to discuss about that final choice in Carthaggi

>>4374547
Moi

>>4377532
Thanks for running Forgotten its been a ride.
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>>4377522
>> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
Cheers, Forgotten. Good run and a good time.
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>>4377522
>>Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]

The kingdom will keep for two years. Plus there is much we can learn about the sons in Cathagi.
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>>4372211
>>4367448
>>4370738
>>4368460
>>4377552
This is me BTW
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>Yfw when Sangainus is the copperclipper SoS
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>>4377522
>You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
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>>4377532
Oh Forgotten wanted to ask you if wouldn't mind me using your whole combat system to run mine own quest? Also I'm wondering if you do any sort of balance with the encounters or have a method to build our opponents?
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>>4377522
> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
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>>4377522
> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
Damn and blast. Things are about to get messy.
Thanks for running Forgotten! All the best at the new job
>>4371754
Me, in case ID messes up
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>>4377574
Don't think he would mind. Plenty of qms have cribbed his system like Fortuna.
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>>4377522
> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]

There will likely be other money making opportunities that will present themselves once we return.

On the topic of Sanguine's identity without knowing the approximate states of more of the others, he may also be Abyssal not Avarice,while only attempting to throw his identity off with words. Since I could see wanting everything fitting both, though the concern is minor since it's a little bit of a stretch to make it fit and it not making much of a difference until we fight it in order to attempt to chain it.
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Since Damien and Roselyn are about to sail back home, we should have a heartwarming goodbye with both of them. We should also say our goodbyes to Sir Karlaus Rabe, Lady Brunhilde Rabe, Sir Robert Gilbern, Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny, and Lady Frida Vancewell.

Forgotten, please make sure to post a link to the new thread once you've made it.
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>>4377522
>> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
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>>4377522

> Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]

It may change later on, depending on what we find in Cathago, but so far, this is what I feel like Emile's resolve would stand in. If we stay the course in the guard though, we might swear a Vow at the end of The Long Walk to return back to Cantônian lands come what may.

>>4377532

Right on mate, hope the move and settling in goes well. We'll probably keep on reeing into the night until the threads kicks it, like majestic bullfrogs.

>>4374800

Last post I sent up, in case ID changed.
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>>4377522
>> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
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>>4377574
Absolutely not, go for it. I wish you luck!

My method for calculating the encounters and various DC is usually based on what would impact a fight between two identical people in terms of severity, assuming it started at 50-50 either way. i.e. a factor that gives a slight edge is +5DC, a telling advantage is +10DC and an overpowering factor is +15-20DC or a re-roll. That's the bare bones of how I calculate encounters.
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>>4377522
> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
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Anons, even our own sister has told us to not to defy the Prince. She is much more knowledgeable than Emile when it comes to these sort of things.

Crown Prince Lionel Aubres wasn't making an empty threat. He will have us killed and put us on his priority list if we defy him.
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>>4377522
>Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]

>>4356598
Linking previous ID
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>>4377637
we aren't making the decision now only deciding on his mindset at this point.

I personally don't think Emille should be cowing to the threat made even if he can certainly make good on it, theres been to much revealed or implied about the status of the princes faction to not make Emille stay out of things

Furthermore Fallavon should be destroyed for all time as nothing good as come from that godforsaken Duchy except Jess, Dame Stoutsworth & Ava sinclair.
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>>4377644
>to not make

to make* goddamit
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>>4377644
The Crown Prince of Canton (and the leader of the Faction) more than can and will make good on his threat against a second born knight errant.

Crown Prince Lionel Aubres won't just go after Emile himself. He will go after everything Emile holds dear. Many anons seem to not have noticed that the Crown Prince was quite focused on the women Emile was courting (Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny and Lady Frida Vancewell)....
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>>4377657
Okay Anon if you want to completely descend into a panic over the threat thats fine but I'm not following you on it.
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>>4377522
> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
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>>4377676
Sorry, but I don't think I'm panicking or being paranoid at all. The Crown Prince clearly wasn't making an idle threat. He already knows things about Emile that no one should be privy to (and that's when he considered Emile to be just a curious third-party).
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>>4377522
>> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
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>>4377657
>crown Prince was quite focused on the women Emile was courting (Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny and Lady Frida Vancewell)....
What? He never mention them, I just check his interaction with us.
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>>4377696
well I do think you are being rather alarmist about it and while it is a significant threat and one he may very well do good on I don't think its grounds for someone who has fought and knows the stakes of the powers he is consorting with to be disuaded readily.
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>>4377522
>> Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]
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>>4377644
>Furthermore Fallavon should be destroyed for all time as nothing good as come from that godforsaken Duchy except Jess, Dame Stoutsworth & Ava sinclair.

What about our friends Bristlecone, Ashen One, and Jirre? Kinda ungrateful not to mention them when they were so helpful to us.

>>4377712
My apologies, I confused his mention of his sister with them. But he and everyone who attended the Ball have seen Emile courting both Mademoiselle Josephine Daubeny and Lady Frida Vancewell, so Crown Prince Lionel Aubres will definitely make note of that. After all, he has already made note of much less info about Emile as he has revealed to us.

>>4377713
I don't think I'm being alarmist at all. I'm giving the Crown Prince's threat it's due weight and attention (Roselyn is too). I think you're being hand wavy and reassured. Emile definitely doe not know the powers of the Crown Prince of Canton as good as his sister does.
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>>4377736
>much less info
>doe not know

Much more info*
Does not know*
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>Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both
foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]

I have feeling that this will lead us to path of thorns
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>>4377522
>You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
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>>4377736
Maybe I am being hand wavy but you are the one crying doom & gloom on a decision we have yet to even know the context of when and if we make the choice to return.
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>>4377522
>> Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]

I can see it already. When Canton is at its weakest, when the inner war is tearing the lands apart, when the Dread Lords of Ardenne launch another assault and the snakefiend hordes crash against the Torwatcher Gates... Emile will return, no longer a young errant knight, rather a grown man and a hero whose exploits are know throughout all of the known world. With equipment that is legendary, a motley crew of companions from all walks of life, with an angel by his side and riding THE DRAGON ITSELF. He will come... And he will make things right.
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>>4377522
You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]

God demm gota find my old vote
>>4371944
This is me;

Wheres the late night booty call, you hack.
Just joking man il be here waiting for the next hit.

Need to know more
and theres wars coming and il want to be apart of that and of couse the fucking snakes.
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>>4377750
If you think I'm 'crying doom & gloom'' because I'm not taking the Crown Prince's threat lightly like you are, then I won't bother replying to you any further. And I don't see any more context being required for his threat. The Crown Prince has already made it very, very clear with his threat that we will dearly regret it if we defy him. Our sister does think so too. Hand waving it isn't going to make it go away. He will come after us and everything close to us.
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>>4377806
>'crying doom & gloom''

'Crying doom & gloom'*
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>>4377522
>> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
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>>4377522
>> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
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>>4377522
> Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]

>>4371669
This is me.
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>>4377736
>it's due weight and attention

Its due weight and attention*
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>>4377889
Just putting it out there, you really don't need to add corrects so often, especially for something as small as a '. We get what you're saying
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Thanks Forgotten.

>>4377522
> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]

Fuck the Prince and fuck Avarice.
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>>4377522
>> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
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>>4377806
Look it's not doom & gloom to take it seriously, its doom & gloom to be going on about how the prince is going to kill us and everyone close to us when we haven't even gotten to Carthaggi or even have an idea of any mitigating circumstances that would soften any potential consequences of our return should we do so.

But we clearly disagree on the subject so theirs no real need to continue this
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>>4377522
> Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]
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>>4377937
The Crown Prince will make good on his threat to kill Emile and those close to him if he defies Crown Prince Lionel Aubres. That's not 'doom & gloom'. I don't see any reason to believe that mitigating circumstances will pop up, so I won't presume that they will appear.

You're clearly don't take the Crown Prince's threat seriously, so yes, there's no real need to continue this.
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>>4377964
Why are people insisting on returning when that's exactly what Avarice wants us to do?

> Rosalyn literally tells us our Mum won't be happy if we insist on coming back.
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>>4377978
I think each anon has their own different reason, but some seem to want to defy the Crown Prince just to defy him.
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>>4377978
Imagine not doing your duty to protect the realm, friends and family from Evil because a villain threatened you and another is homolusting after your soul.

Are we Sir Emile Andrei - the man who saw justice done even when a murderous rapist made threats with his connections - or are we some cynical, cowardly copper-clipper?

Ceterum censo Fallavonem delendam esse.
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>>4377978
Mother also would prefer if Emile never went on Errantry. Maybe he should have pulled a Gabe and stayed home. :^)
It's a bellwether vote, we aren't bound to it unless there's a sudden Haughty swing. Emile is probably going to go to Cathago and can make a better informed decision.
If you're that worried about the vote not going your way, use the time in Cathago to pursue choice avenues that can highlight the appeal of the Dragon Guard.
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>>4378011
But going DG route lets us do all that.

Coming back just to spite the Prince is just selfish.

Like insisting on going all out in a duel for honour, despite clearly having lost once, and risking killing a good man.
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This is just a warm up vote lads. No need to get too worked up. We will make a final decision once we finish the pilgrimage and understand the current situation better.
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>>4378011
We would be more useful to Canton on the dragonguard helping Gilbern with whatever the Queen is having trouble with. Even Ros thinks that little time away would be good ofr the heat with the prince to die down.
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>>4378019
DG *might* help with that. And if it does, the impact will be less than if we were in Canton, where the real battlefield is.

And I dunno about you, but if justice is spiting Evil - then I wanna Emile to be a pretty spiteful bastard :V

We've sperged about DG vs Canton quite a while before, so I believe there isn't anything more to add at the moment. We'll see after we set foot in Cathagi.
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>>4378048
>DG *might* help with that. And if it does, the impact will be less than if we were in Canton, where the real battlefield is.

I don't really understand this assumption. After being seen spurned by the Prince, we're going to be persona non grata in Canton for quite a while. And whilst yes, this would possibly endear us to the Queens faction it would still make working with us more difficult. This makes it difficult for me to see how effective we could truly be in Canton in the short term.

Where as joining the Dragon Guard gives us the opportunity to potentially siphon information back to Gilbern whilst strengthening our position (via wealth and prestige, both basically guaranteed via a DG position) before returning home to help put down the Prince and Avarice.

That's my take on it anyway
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>>4378054
Fundamentally, I've seen no reason to believe that the Queen's faction will make it hard to work with them in Canton. All of it comes down to "The Prince hates us" (which was a subtle show anyway, and unlikely to be damning in circles that aren't loyal to him) and "Other Houses dislike us" (which has proven to be a rather small malus, hence not a good counter-point).

Second, I'm not sure how much prestige we would acquire in the DG. Like, I haven't seen that it was much of a fuss in Canton? It's probably going to help more in Cathagi than our homeland, but I might stand corrected in the future.

Third, DG will occupy us for years. I have the feeling that shit will hit the fan in that period of time - and while we might influence the situation if we were back in Canton, we'd be at a disadvantage if we were still in Cathagi.

Mind you, I still like a lot the DG plotline. If my third fear is somewhat assuaged in future, I won't mind switching to it.
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>>4378066
>(which was a subtle show anyway, and unlikely to be damning in circles that aren't loyal to him)

He publicly disavowed us and told us to leave and stay gone. I don't see that as subtle honestly.

>Second, I'm not sure how much prestige we would acquire in the DG

It has been stated (by Forgotten I believe,might be misremembering though) that joining the Dragon Guard is considered quite a prestigious for Cantonian knights and their Houses.

>Third, DG will occupy us for years. I have the feeling that shit will hit the fan in that period of time

I agree with you to a point, but it's only 2 years which doesn't seem like too significant an amount of time

>and while we might influence the situation if we were back in Canton, we'd be at a disadvantage if we were still in Cathagi.

This is where I disagree most of all. I just struggle to see how we are going to impact things directly here unless we decide to just cut the Prince down. I think our public snubbing by the Prince and his threats towards us is going to make it harder for others to work with us as it will risk them also catching the ire of the Prince and his people in a more overt way. Whereas being in Cathagi and feeding Gilburn choice information and potentially learning more about the SoSs and getting an opportunity to practice our political skills (which I think will happen whether we want it to or not over there) will lead to us being in a better position to help when we come home.

All this being said, like someone mentioned earlier this is just us feeling things out. We'll have to wait and see what the situation is like over there and if we still think it's a good idea when the time comes.
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>>4378066
>Third, DG will occupy us for years. I have the feeling that shit will hit the fan in that period of time
There is little indication of that, since both the Duke and Queen are pretending that the conflict in Fallavon never happen. We might be entering a passive state before the next opportunity for conflict rises up. It's not likely they will find another SoS buried somewhere anytime soon, and it also took them over a year from finding it for semi-open warfare to start around it, if we go by the letter and the ambush our brother suffer.

Second if Ros and by extension mother are suggesting us to stay away for a while, it could be wise to listen to their advise.
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>>4378076
> He publicly disavowed us and told us to leave and stay gone. I don't see that as subtle honestly.

No one but Emile, Sanguine and the Prince heard the latter's threats. Dismissing Emile like he did was noticed instead, but that isn't quite terrible without context - and the majority of nobility doesn't seem in the know.

> This is where I disagree most of all. I just struggle to see how we are going to impact things directly here unless we decide to just cut the Prince down.

I mean, the Queensmen are men quite intimate with clandestine operations and the likes. If Emile was to offer his help to them, he could certainly find ways to help them - he's not bad with his words (spaghetti memes aside) and he fucked up a SoS badly. That's no mean feat at all.

If you want possible ideas of what he could, I think spreading Queensmen influence in Romaine, doing some investigation in Montbrun or hunting more SoS are possible plotlines for that path. But that's just speculation.
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>>4378087
Yeah fair enough, you make some good points here
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KNIGGAS, KNIGGAS, I HAVE A THEORY! What if Crown Prince Lionel Aubres is being mind controlled by Sanguine kinda like how Grima had King Theoden of Rohan under a spell? This would explain why Sanguine didn't answer when he was asked if Crown Prince Lionel Aubres is his master, for Sanguine himself is the Crown Prince's master! This also explains what they were doing in the ruins. Sanguine is trying to free his brothers, the other Sons of Sin! What do you think kniggas?
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>>4378093
That would make a lot of sense.
But the ability to get rid of him is something we are sorely lacking with out magic of some kind.
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>>4378093
Possible. Sanguine could just have a different master and was being evasive for that reason. Considering what Anarchy did to the knights around him, unless the Prince's faction knows he is a SoS and have his corruptive influence contained, the Prince would likely benefit from Sanguine's removal.
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> Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]

In case of reset >>4371883 is me

Btw forgotten: We see Jess with her mask on whenever she's mentioned. I assume others don't? Or do they see a human girl with a mask? Do we know?
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>>4378093
I don't think he has direct control over prince more of a manipulation
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>>4377522
>> Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]

This is me just in case it has changed >>4356234 which it most likely has.
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>>4377625
Oh another question, do you have any rules for magic?
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>>4377522
> Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]
Allies are good, not pissing off royalty is better, but I think completing the vigil is the most important part. If civil war somehow erupts before we join the Dragon Guard, it would be best to return immediately; if not, making money and friends it is for me.
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Looking back, why we never sworn an oath to make a full pilgrimage? Pretty appropriate and not at all controversial.
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Reconsider working with the Reginate.
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Adios, amigos!
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>>4378828
Good luck Senpai!
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>>4378828
I’m gonna miss you big bro
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>>4378828
You'll be back
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>>4378828
F
>>4373785
me
> Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]
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>>4378828
Don't let the outback kill you
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>>4378828
Good Luck!
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How long did he say he'll be gone for?
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>>4378954
foreseeable future

>I do intend to create another thread wrapping up things in Pascae before finishing the chapter on the boat (you called it) but right now I have no idea when that might be.
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>>4377522
>> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]

Fuck the Dragon, I think it would be completely OOC for Emile to bow to a slaver + to accept his dominance while he's the champion of Heavens.
The Dragon would be more an enemy than anything else.
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>>4377522
We should be ready to join the dragonguard when the long walk is done, but depends on what news we get from home in the time it takes.
>hearty idealist
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>>4379091
>>4371710
>>4358911
Me
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>>4377522
>> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
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>>4378828
Good luck!
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>Fallavon: Anarchy
>Pascae: Avarice
>Martyred: Anguish
>Embarked on hunt: Adversary
In which duchies do you think the remaining SoS are residing? Maybe we can meet Adversary somewhere during our pilgrimage to Cathagi.
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>>4379235
>residing
Maybe the right term is "where can we meet" since Sanguine is accompanying the Prince even Aubres
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>>4379238
Two were chained and the rest scattered. Agony was met somewhere around the Deepwoods and Cathago, so the remainder may not even be in Canton.
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>>4379235
>>4379241
>AVARICE: Pascae/Cathago
>AGONY: Aubery/?
>ANARCHY: Favallon
>ABYSSAL: ???
>ATROCITY: ???
>ANGUISH: Adam
>ADVERSARY: Cain
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>>4377522
>> Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]

I was very tempted by returning home on a holy crusade to purge the Walking Dead though.
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>>4379061
Emile doesn't have the Zealot trait.

>>4379294
> Not spending Dragongold on as many slave as possible to bring back and free in Romaine which has a shortage of Men.

Moral use of Dragongold, helps reinforce Romaine, Emile gets the opportunity to creat a core force of freedmen who owe him.
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>>4373266
There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in a storm, a night with no moon, and basilisks
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>>4377522
> Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]
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>>4379314
You don't have to be a zealot to refuse to kneel before a dragon slaver.
Emile is openly against slavery, that would make absolutely no sense for him to enter the Dragon Guard
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>>4380301
Your are viewing of things is too narrowly, the Dragon spare the Salvae Reginae and then punish her torturers because he was also outrage at their actions and them was in turn spare by Adam. We also have from Ros that the dragon is not actually involved in the day to day business of Cathagi. There are nuances around the Dragon that should hold us from judging too quickly, before looking at it more carefully.
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>>4377522
> Once you have completed the Final Vigil you will join the Drakon Roloi, the Dragon Guard. A place of honour in the ranks of the mightiest warriors of all the lands, allies at courts both foreign and domestic. It is a call to adventure, and it has the added advantage of keeping you out of the Prince’s mind. And keeping you away from the Paladin Sanguine. [Hearty]

No shame in hiding low for a bit.
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>>4380936
Regardless of the Dragon's religious past,currently it is letting slavery persist as a cornerstone of Cathagi. True, it is running the trade, but it should be within its power to end it, but hasn't. It may have its reasons, but until we hear them, it is complicit.
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>>4377522
> You will complete your pilgrimage and take the Long Walk, as you have always intended. And then you will return home. Even if you had intended to join the Dragon Guard, you will not do so to adhere to some self-imposed exile. Damn the Prince’s displeasure. You will return, and you will get to the bottom of this. [Idealist]
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Damn, over 2000 fucking replies? This quest is like Created levels of popular, how have I never seen this?
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>>4384670
Welcome anon, jump in and enjoy the ride, it's been fucking wild
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>>4384438
Great map anon looks damn nice.
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>>4384438
>>4384428
Fucking nice.
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>>4384428
>>4384438
You made this with wondercraft?
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>>4384705
>>4385729
Thanks

>>4385735
Wonderdraft yeah. Great program
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I survived the journey, and most of the first week. Gotta tell you, that road had some serious Mad Max vibes going for it. I’m going to have to get my windshield replaced.

I don’t have a new thread date for you guys yet, but I’ll be sure to post in the /qtg/ and twitter when I do.

>>4384428
>>4384438
Very nice! This warms my shrivelled QM heart.

>>4384670
Welcome aboard, mate.
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>>4387916
'Stralia
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>>4387916
What did you hit? Or more like,what hit you?
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>>4384428
mapbro here, awesome map here mate! I love the colors.
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>>4387967
I was gunning along a stretch of highway at 100+ km/ph when I ran out of road. It changed from concrete to rocky dirt track in an instant, and just over a hill so I had bugger all time to slow down and hit the rocky road going at least 90km+, not an optimal situation by any means.

I regained control after a few seconds of shitting myself, but rocks must have been thrown up in the tussle and several embedded themselves in my front windscreeen. It’s cracked all the way through now. Must have only rolled 1
Success on my outback terrain Tracking Roll.

It sounds stupid to say, but I never really clued on to just how bloody big Oz is until I made that drive.
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>>4384438
Awesome! Can we get a dotted line describing Emile's journey? I know, my greed is endless.
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>>4388300
Glad to hear you are OK, and you even got a cool story.
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>>4388300
Christ, careful driving Forgotten. QM Curse could've hit right then. also, hope you have homeowners insurance for your new place!
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>I catched up
>the withdrawal starts to break me
>look at the archive to see how fast those threads are written
>It's once a month
I'm not surviving this, bros
nice crit on the Vancewell tho, best waifu acquired
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>>4388300
Fucking country straya is some Fallavon tier shit glad you're surviving at least Forgotten.
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>>4389117
To be fair the threads last a long time and Forgotten updates daily when he's running the game. You wont have to wait a month between each one, he's just moving house at the moment
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>>4389165
shame that my ID is constantly changing, so I won't be able to participate
I'll just join the horde of lurkers I guess
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have some memes while thread is alive
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>>4389531
If you link your vote to an earlier vote when you post it that should suffice.
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>>4389703
oh, ok
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>>4389706
No wuzzas, I welcome you and your OC memes with open arms. Sworn to Valour has always had good OC (memes and otherwise), but this latest thread has been a goldmine.

If I don’t fuck up this job and it’s juicy remoteness paycheque then I’ll be sure to commission some fan art.
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Well I just finished binging the entire backlog. Its been a fun ride.
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>>4391344
Its not over yet, just on abit of a delay.
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TEST

I think I've got internet set up, when we see how work goes I'll have a date for you guys. Maybe even next weekend.
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>>4392183
Fuck yeah
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>>4392183
Oh shit Knigga

Have a shitty meme
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>>4391344
I wonder just how big the lurkers horde for that quest
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>>4392245
I'm biased but that's some good shit, knigga.
>>4392183
Cheers. Glad to hear the wastes haven't claimed your body yet.
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>>4392297
We're all biased anon
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Canton might not be able to handle the Emile/Frida power couple
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>>4393569
>Inb4 the prince snags her up right before our eyes
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>>4393961
please don't give the QM ideas
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>>4393961
>>4394616
It's only natural after joining the cuckguard.
But Frida isn't a nun, so she can't be queen. And she never will be able to be either once Emile's done with her.
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New Sworn to Valour thread this Friday 14th August (AEST). I don't have a time yet, but I'll post here again when it's up.

During this thread, which should conclude our knight's time in Pascae before setting sail for foreign shores, I plan to close this chapter of Sworn to Valour for now and start up Black Company 2230AD.

I'm not burnt out on StV by any means, but I've been sitting on this BCQ 2230AD for yonks now and I'm pretty keen to try my hand at some high-adrenaline sci-fi. Assuming our MC survives the first thread it can probably be safe to assume I'll cover one mission at a time, before popping in with a new StV thread in due course. Running multiple quests at the same time has been the bane of many a QM, so I'm going to be careful not to fall into that trap.

As always, I'm open to feedback. And please, don't spare me your brutal honesty.

>Are most of you guys keen for a switch to BCQ 2230AD for a bit, or is it your strong preference that we solely stick with Sworn to Valour?
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>>4397707
>>Are most of you guys keen for a switch to BCQ 2230AD for a bit, or is it your strong preference that we solely stick with Sworn to Valour?

Mixed feelings. I am really keen to see what happens over in Cathagi with the Dragon etc and potentially have a showdown with another Son of Sin but at the same time Sci-fi is my favourite genre so that'll be interesting as well. Also gives us a chance to play a completely different style of character.

I'm ok with switching back and forth as long as you don't drop StV
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>>4397707
>>Are most of you guys keen for a switch to BCQ 2230AD for a bit, or is it your strong preference that we solely stick with Sworn to Valour?

I want to be space copper clipper
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>>4397714
Yeah we are going to clip soo many moon coppers
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>>4397707

Will I need to have read Black Company to understand it?
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>>4397707
I like StV a lot, but I am also a sucker for sci-fi. Doing what you're most keen for is probably going to result in more content for us in the long run anyway, and you do what you want the most. Win-win
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>>4397707
I'm a bit loathe to depart STV with things heating up but if its what you want to do I can hardly complain.

>>4397720
My understanding is seperate but slightly connected setting to the previous BCQ, Prince is a boogeyman but thats about it I think.

>>4397714
This
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>>4397720
No, it will be set hundreds (if not thousands) of years in the future from the events of the original quest. As >>4397728 guessed
the events of the Siege of Kresden, for example, will be as much myth as anything else dating that far back in the Annals. I'm thinking that the Annals themselves will have restricted and unrestricted archives, a potential major plot point in itself should anons choose to go down the lore-route.

Regardless, the OG Black Company Quest will not be required reading. Though I encourage anons to come to terms with the fact that the good old casualty tables will be coming back with a vengeance.
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>>4397735
No children plox, I can't take another one
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>>4397735
>Though I encourage anons to come to terms with the fact that the good old casualty tables will be coming back with a vengeance.

Oh yay
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>>4397735
>> good old casualty tables will be coming back with a vengeance.

Haha fuck yeah
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>>4397707
Heck yeah. It’s copper clipping time
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>>4397707
>Are most of you guys keen for a switch to BCQ 2230AD for a bit, or is it your strong preference that we solely stick with Sworn to Valour?

Strong preference to solely stick to Sworn to Valour. The reasons are the following:

A) Running multiple quests at the same time will end in disaster and burn out. This has unfailingly proved to be the case time and time again.

B) Running both will negatively affect the quality of their content, the size of their updates, and how frequent their updates are made.

C) Arseholes from both quests will try to sabotage and ruin the quest they don't participate in to force you to focus on the one they want. They will do this by samefagging, flinging shit, and making the experience terrible in general.

I suggest you continue running Sworn to Valour till you can pause at something like a timeskip (or a similar point that would be appropriate to halt the quest at for a while). After that, run Space Company 2230AD till you reach a certain point that would be fitting to halt the quest at for quite some time after which you can continue to run Sworn to Valour again. Keep repeating this and stick it to it as a schedule.
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>>4397768
>Space Company 2230AD

Black Company 2230AD*
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>>4397768
From what he said I don't think most of that will be an issue. It looks like Forgotten intends on switching between them sort of like you're suggesting rather than running them simultaneously. I mean he can clarify himself though but I'm not worried
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>>4397768
I don’t intend to write them at the same time. But timing the switches to timeskips might be an optimal way to go about it.
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>>4397774
Oh, then I wouldn't mind switching back and forth between Sworn to Valour and Black Company 2230. (I would still prefer to solely stick to one quest be it Sworn to Valour or Black Company 2230 AD though.)

BTW, didn't you say that Black Company 2230 AD will have multiple MCs as POVs?
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>>4397774
>>4397778
If it's gonna be just one MC as a POV, will we get to vote to choose on whether they will be male or female? Will we have a character gen segment at beginning, or is the MC going to be pre-made?
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>>4397782
I have a few ideas, the focus will be on a new Sergeant in the 77th Krieger Drop Troop Platoon.

But other POV characters I have in mind include the Captain (overall control of missions and campaign choices) as well as the pilot of your air support, though I still don’t know whether that will be a bomber, fighter, hovercraft type deal.
There will of course be chargen and squad selection worked into the first thread, but I really am keen to have a go at writing for a female MC. Given the life expectancy of some our MCs though, that could be a pretty short run.
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>>4397707
>>Are most of you guys keen for a switch to BCQ 2230AD for a bit, or is it your strong preference that we solely stick with Sworn to Valour?
Don't mind switching to BCQ 2230 AD for a while, as long as the next STV thread after this isn't like next year or something.
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>>4397792
Leaning into the short life expectancy of individuals could be interesting, maybe making it more of an x-com type of feel. You would still have personal progression on player characters but the bulk of progression an customisability would be of the equipment and squad capabilities or commanders leadership.
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>>4397707
>Are most of you guys keen for a switch to BCQ 2230AD for a bit, or is it your strong preference that we solely stick with Sworn to Valour?
I agree with others that the dangers of multi-quest drifting might be too great, but if it's what you want i think you have shown yourself to be maybe the most dependable and reliable qm on the board at least of the ones i know. Also i will read anything you put out and think you should do what makes you happy. Running BC 2230 as an anthology once in awhile could maybe even turn out to be a boon, letting you replenish creative juices and giving time to world-build in the background or lead to a cross-pollination of ideas.
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>>4397792
It’s not black company without the tragic deaths of the comfiest and most innocent members of our squad.
Runaway rich girl MC possible?
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>>4397808
>Fuck daddy Imma massacare aliens

I like this idea
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>>4397792
I look forward to it, Forgotten. Please post a heads up for the start date and a link in the general once you've created the first thread for BC 2230.
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>>4397707
My humble lurker opinion on this: I'll welcome with open arms anything you try, although 2 quests at the same time seems like a skub-magnet for the ages. Your writing is always on point and sci-fi flavored BCQ would be an interesting foray no doubt. (I seem to remember you saying maybe an episodic style to that peculiar story, which I think would be particularly suited to a double quest setup.)

I love(d?) Emile and Canton, Prince's saga is what hooked me on /qst/, (malédictions sans fins sur toi et tes descendants sur sept générations pour le destin funeste de Kid et Jenny) please break my heart again IN SPAAACE
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>>4397707

I'm loving StV, but I've been waiting for Black Company 2230AD since you've mentioned it way back. Shit's gonna be hype as all hell.

>>4397792

I'm going to be real sad if we don't get some sci-fi 'Hog action for air support.
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>>4397707
I would personally love to see Black Company 2230AD as I think the switch between Fantasy & Sci-fi might be refreshing.
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>>4397735
Here is a question though: Since the Black Company Quest ended the way it did and we basically made it so the necromancer guy had a good chance at conquering everyone does that mean that his faction might/will show up in the new quest?
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>>4397707
>Are most of you guys keen for a switch to BCQ 2230AD for a bit, or is it your strong preference that we solely stick with Sworn to Valour?

HELL YEAH MY KNIGGA
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>>4397707
I see the appeal of switching to Black Company 2230AD right on a time skip of Sworn to Valor. I caution you on running two quests at once but switching gears for writing might also help you stay fresh in your mind.
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>>4397735
Oh god. What kind of legends swirl around Prince.

Because honestly, if he wasnt obliterated from orbit with a bombardment, he could technically survive till the current age.
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>>4399156
Nah, Prince likely die a few hundred years later as the Captain. Holding the rear guard to let the rest of the company escape against overwhelming odds.
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>>4397735
>spacing orphans to stop battleship sized shagoths deamons wen
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>>4399572
+5DC
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>>4398431
I will explain more of the setting in the new quest, but there will be horror enough without a necromantic space empire thrown into the mix.
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>>4399590
How do you plan to deal with and handle the samefagging that'll occur during the char gen in the first thread for BC 2230AD? I think the first 2-3 vote choices should be for relatively trivial stuff such as char name, char appearance, and so on.
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>>4399639
Considering Forgotten has an actual following after two very successful quests, it might be viable (although a bit shitty) to do a pre-game check in. So he drops the opening post and allows 24 hours until the first vote for people to comment and claim an ID. From there it's business as usual with 1 post IDs not being counted for votes. Usually I'd be entirely against something like this on /qst/ and would immediately drop the game never to return but I think Forgotten has earned some clout/trust in that respect
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>>4399639
That does seem to be the best way to keep things honest. I'm not a fan of having a superficial vote just to lock in IDs and hold people accountable, but it may be the only way to ensure there is a fair go at chargen.

I really do hate samefags.
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>>4397707
>Are most of you guys keen for a switch to BCQ 2230AD for a bit, or is it your strong preference that we solely stick with Sworn to Valour?

I've been waiting BCQ 2230AD for a long time, of course I want that shit! Even if I'm going to cry myself to sleep once we know what happened to Best Dragon.

Is the outline of other races still the same btw? Because murdering not!British Empire Rats sounds fucking fun.
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>>4399644
>>4399645
One problem with my idea is the fact that you can't have superficial votes like char name and char appearance before determining and locking char gender. If people vote for a male name and a male appearance, they'll expect a male char.

Problem is a vote for char gender will without a doubt get samefagged if it's the first vote. Maybe the first couple of votes should be for stuff that don't reveal gender like nicknames and such?
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>>4399659
I think we're overcomplicating it. I honestly think that just opening up the thread and saying "There is 24 hours until the first vote - 1 post IDs will not be counted" should do it
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>>4399654
>Is the outline of other races still the same btw? Because murdering not!British Empire Rats sounds fucking fun

Have I previously dumped BCQ 2230AD lore? Happy to do so again, but I think it's best I focus on this last thread of Sworn to Valour before we get stuck into all that.

>>4399659
It wouldn't be a Black Company quest without a good nickname, but that wouldn't be a good idea for the first vote.

How does this sound, I make the opening vote a bunch of options for the chargen of a platoon NPC?

A foot-slogging trooper, no major ramifications with as little or as much backstory as anons want. That way we can get a sneak peak at many of the MC options (if not an in-depth understanding of them) and even if it is screwed up or samefagged to hell the only damage is an NPC that may not even be selected to join the squad later.
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>>4399665
I guess this also works. Still, I'll toy with the NPC Trooper chargen as the opening vote in any case.
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>>4399666
That also seems reasonable as long as its clear that that wouldn't be the character we're playing. I could see some salty tears otherwise
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>>4399665
>>4399666
Both of these sound good to me but I dunno about other anons.
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>>4399666
Speaking of lore, I've got some lore questions for Sworn to Valour's lore for you, Forgotten. Any ones that would be OOC for Emile to know need not be answered.

What's the most valuable material in Sworn to Valour's world, and how is it used?

I'm reading through the history books of Sworn to Valour's world. Which names am I sure to come across? (Salve Regina, Adam, Cain, and the Dragon are the obvious answers but any others?)

What are some common names in Canton? I'm really surprised that aren't many Cantonian men named Adam or Cain.

The sight of a lit-up christmas tree makes people think of a warm home, and good food. What are some cultural touchstones in Sworn to Valour's world (specifically Canton), that makes people think of warmth, merriment and so forth?

What about funerals? (How are they performed? Who is invited? How significant are they? How are the dead honoured? What happens to their body? Are they given a stone, a cross, a...?)

That's it. Hope they're aren't too much. Once again any ones that Emile doesn't and shouldn't know about don't need to be answered.
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>>4399685
Oh and one more lore question if you don't mind.

Among Canton's historical kings, who among them was the greatest? Who among them was the most terrible? Who among them reigned the longest? Who among them was the most pious and devout? Did any of them go on a crusade adamant and led one?
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>>4399685
>>4399689
I'll try to answer these later, assuming the thread is still up.
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>>4399690
No problem, Forgotten. You can answer them in /qtg/ if the thread is archived.
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If the new thread is on Friday, we might as well get the next thread up now so that we can shitpost and get our IDs in so theres no 24hr delay.
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>>4401165
The 24hr delay is for the first thread of BC 2230 AD, not the next thread for StV.
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I hope we fuck Vancewell real good tomorrow since it’ll be a while until we get to tap that Salve Regina blessed body again.



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