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This is the renamed /k/Quest: Build up an army. Thread two.

TLDR:
We had a president who kickstarted the economy be selling mining rights to the French but had a very serious case of a potty mouth that got us into trouble in the worst possible time while the Korean war is ongoing.

The fighting is going on for a week, and if we do not break the stalemate with an operation together with the French, the president will be forced to pursue a cease fire.

Previous thread: >>4317311
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The plans proposed for the operation are the following:

Option #1
WARPLAN: BLUE
Fourth company will be ferried across the bay to interdict supply. An hour or two after that, the 2nd Battalion will assume 1st's position, which in turn will advance north-east to overwhelm their shock company. The mountaineers will move in to keep their recon busy or drive them back.
The French will paradrop behind their lines with the intent of assisting 4th Company north of Everon. The 4th is chosen to work with the french as their guns are the same and supplying them by sea will be easier.
This plan will leave the enemy pocketed in 3 if everything works out right.

Option #2
WARPLAN: GREEN

Operation consists of focusing on eliminating the PRS auxiliary units such as recon, artillery and shock companies, or at least displacing them to gain ground. In case of successful initial execution, the French unit will paradrop (triangle marking) and attempt to cut off retreat paths and supply to battalions in Corazol. The reserve companies will move forward and skirmish the superiour force to discourage flanking maneuvers from their side.

Option #3
WARPLAN: YELLOW

Plan consists of executing a retreat with the clear purpose of baiting them out their pre-made defensive positions. After they move in to secure the ground taken, they will have bad artillery zeroing for the first few hours, no foxholes or fortified MG nests. First and Second battalions will be the main forces doing the counterattack, with 2nd and 4th Companies securing the flank and in the same time our mtn. unit can begin flanking. In the heat of battle, the French will paradrop behind their lines in attempt to seize Hill 135 where the SPG's are.

Votes from previous thread are:

GREEN: 3
YELLOW: 1
BLUE: 0
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>>4325521
Have you archived the last thread OP?
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>>4325534
Yes, but my retarded alcoholic ass forgot to include the link.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/4317311/
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>>4325536
Good stuff, I voted last thread for Green, are you going to redo the vote or just go with Green?
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>>4325539
I'd wait a bit, see if any new people want to join in.
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>>4325526
Well, considering that it is already ahead it seems almost pointless, but I will vote for:
>Green
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>>4325540
Looks like Green is gonna win regardless QM
Hope you had a good night either way
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>>4325540
>Green
The old classic wait for new people as QM is making the map and writing things up
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>>4325612
I'm sure he'll update soon
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>>4325526
Blue
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August 18th

The plan “GREEN” was presented to the president, who in turn agreed to its content. He did have some questions about the timing and cohesion. It is clear the mountaineers will begin moving first due to having 30-50km to cover. However he wants to know which units are going to engage the enemy first.

>Companies 2 and 4 will move up north to skirmish with the enemy battalions and hopefully lock them down.

>First Battalion will assault the positions of their 1st company as the to attempt to cut their line.

>Second Battalion will swivel around 1st in a push to displace their recon elements in our back.

Group the timeline of how you want these three actions to be distributed. Each will be executed two hours in-between. The first one being in 0600 hrs on August 19th, except the mountain company that will be moving all night. The French are scheduled make their paradrop at 1200hrs to maximize the shock effect.
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>>4325686
>Second Battalion will swivel around 1st in a push to displace their recon elements in our back.

The hope is to catch them unaware, since we have never attacked the cars before, and hopefully get close enough without them noticing to destroy them.


>First Battalion will assault the positions of their 1st company as the to attempt to cut their line.

>Companies 2 and 4 will move up north to skirmish with the enemy battalions and hopefully lock them down.

Ideally these two would happen simultaneously imo.
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>>4325686
>Second Battalion will swivel around 1st in a push to displace their recon elements in our back.
>Companies 2 and 4 will move up north to skirmish with the enemy battalions and hopefully lock them down.
>First Battalion will assault the positions of their 1st company as the to attempt to cut their line.
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>>4325686
>Second Battalion will swivel around 1st in a push to displace their recon elements in our back.
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>>4325715
supporting
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>>4325702
I agree, but if we have the two hour rule then I think this order would be better
>Second Battalion will swivel around 1st in a push to displace their recon elements in our back.
>Companies 2 and 4 will move up north to skirmish with the enemy battalions and hopefully lock them down.
>First Battalion will assault the positions of their 1st company as the to attempt to cut their line.
We engage the battalions first and they will have a harder time dealing with 1st company
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>>4325715

This is the chosen course of action.
The time has some, need 4 rolls of 20, one per anon, if you roll more than one dice, only the first one counts.
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Rolled 8 (1d20)

>>4325919
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Rolled 12 (1d20)

>>4325919
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Rolled 9 (1d20)

>>4325919
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Rolled 7 (1d20)

>>4325919
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>>4325920
>>4325925
>>4325934
>>4325935
Not again
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>>4325920
>>4325925
>>4325934
>>4325935

August 19th

Mountaineers begin their long hike shortly before midnight.
At around 0300 hrs 2nd Battalion’s artillery performs a deceptive barrage suggesting we will attack in the morning, and to cover up the movement of our infantry to the north.
The element of surprise is unfortunately lost before the attack even commences, around 0530 hrs they clash with a forward observer section of the recon company. The operation begins prematurely, before our artillery has positions set up.

The enemy armored cars stay at range of 500 meters and act like mobile machine gun nests, constantly moving back to stay outside our AT range. Their harassment maneuver works fine and by the 0800hrs when our companies move in north, our Battalion is still stuck trying to secure the area, despite our numerical advantage and artillery support. Casualties are very low on both sides as we have not charged into their few SMG armed squads protecting the vehicles.
(From rolls of 8 and 12)

Our infantry companies march over the border in plain sight in order to keep their battalions occupied, and as expected they begin receiving artillery fire. Said barrages were inaccurate and additionally even less effective due to the spacing of company sized units. A misunderstanding led to 1st Battalion beginning their push only after the companies report they have engaged the battalions in skirmishing actions, which was at 1100hrs, and stalling half an hour later in front of a prepared defense and zeroed in artillery.

The 2nd Battalion on the other hand had finally forced the recon company to fall back. Interestingly enough, the enemy formation was too preoccupied with looking and firing at our forces, that they ran straight into our mountaineers who were trying to get to Hill 135 where their artillery unit is located. Some cars already damaged by dozens of rounds deforming the thin armor plating and from driving full speed through rough terrain had the extra displesuare of being low on ammunition from raining suppressive fire all morning.

In the ensuing short firefight, only one armored car managed to get away. One was disabled from a PIAT hit, other one suffered a suspension failure that immobilized it, and shortly after that it was abandoned from the crew. The infantry recon squads and their GAZ 4x4 vehicles withdrew to Hill 135.
(PRS armored car company no longer exists, the surviving elements have been merged with their SPG company)
(From rolls of 9 and 7)

Our mountaineers have been spotted and we have not gained as much ground as we hoped to, do we continue with the plan as drawn or we amend it while the French are boarding the planes?

Comment too long.. one minute and I post decisions.
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>Roll with the plan, Second Battalion and the Mountaineers will assault Hill 135 despite the reinforcement it received plus the unknown AA guns that shot down a Texan few days ago. The French will land at the LZ we have decided on with warplan “Green”. First Battalion will launch another attack while the SPG’s are busy.

>Hold off the storming of Hill 135, they know we are coming. Have the French land north/north east of it, outside of light AA range to cut off their path for retreat and then attack it from all directions to secure the whole area. First battalion should switch back to defensive positions, to prevent an attempt at a breakout.
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>>4326012
>Hold off the storming of Hill 135, they know we are coming. Have the French land north/north east of it, outside of light AA range to cut off their path for retreat and then attack it from all directions to secure the whole area. First battalion should switch back to defensive positions, to prevent an attempt at a breakout.
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>>4326012
>Hold off the storming of Hill 135, they know we are coming. Have the French land north/north east of it, outside of light AA range to cut off their path for retreat and then attack it from all directions to secure the whole area. First battalion should switch back to defensive positions, to prevent an attempt at a breakout.
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>>4326012
>Hold off the storming of Hill 135, they know we are coming. Have the French land north/north east of it, outside of light AA range to cut off their path for retreat and then attack it from all directions to secure the whole area. First battalion should switch back to defensive positions, to prevent an attempt at a breakout.

>Light AA
Thanks 4 intel
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>>4326012
>Hold off the storming of Hill 135, they know we are coming. Have the French land north/north east of it, outside of light AA range to cut off their path for retreat and then attack it from all directions to secure the whole area. First battalion should switch back to defensive positions, to prevent an attempt at a breakout.
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>>4326080
>>4326073
>>4326066
>>4326036

Three rolls of 20.
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Rolled 16 (1d20)

>>4326088
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>>4326073
It is presumed to be light due to the surviving pilots report, but a hex being 15km, thats outside heavy AA range anyways.
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Rolled 11 (1d20)

>>4326088
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Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>4326093
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>>4326073
We already knew they had some because they shot down a plane
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>>4326106
>>4326097
Oh yeah I forgot about that.
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August 19th 1200 hrs

The French were unnerved from being given a different drop area and a task literally while the engines were warming up, but there was either that or landing deeper in enemy lines than expected with questionable chances of having a path to retreat back to friendly territory.

During their two hour flight our companies continued to harass the enemy battalions stationed near Corazol. Second battalion and the mountain company could finally take a breather from walking all morning before the attack. First battalion breaks off their attack too with some casualties taken.

At 1430hrs the French begin landing the paratroopers, cutting off the path of retreat from Hill 135. The French remain organized and do not lose cohesion. Within minutes the 2nd Battalion opens up a barrage on Hill 135 and together with it our infantry moves forward.

The superior numbers we have overwhelm their first line which is routed back up the slope. At the top they had a circular defense set up with the SU-76’s and the AA guns.

Despite the heavy fire, in 90 minutes our units were just 400 meters from the top of the hill, managing to take out the last armored car that escaped the earlier today. Our artillery had to cease fire in the crucial moment due to the possibility of hitting friendly forces.

The French reached their side in time and locked their forces into a last stand. The SU-76 guns likely ran out of ammo at some point and our slow and indecisive slug uphill played into our favor. By 1800 the only resisting forces were crewmen and recon troops with SMG’s. Their AA guns also ran out of ammo, but not before proving useful as most of our casualties were inflicted by them … by 1900 the last surviving resistance surrendered after being flushed out with grenades. The SU-76’s were all disabled, after a single glance at the AA gun, the French instantly recognized the German Flak38 mounting … very likely dismounted from the Schnellboats as DIY means to protect their assets, following our barrel bombing mission. That explains why we have not seen the boats since 12th and the small ammunition supply they had.

Hill 135 has been taken !!!
(From rolls of 16 and 11)

In the south our companies did their job well and retreated back to their starting positions for rest and resupply (Roll of 13).

The tally of the casualties for the day of fighting is:
1st Battalion: 20 KIA&WIA
2nd Battalion: 20 KIA&WIA
Mountain Coy.: 10 KIA&WIA
2nd Company: 10 KIA&WIA
4th Company: 10 KIA&WIA
French: 5 KIA&WIA
(75 total)

Enemy losses: 60 Killed, 10 captured only at Hill 135. Unknown in other sectors.
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Calling it for tonight.
Next session, we continue with the political situation and the arrival of the Brits.
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>>4326184
Overall very good
It might be possible that enemy casualties are now in the triple digits due to the fighting in the other sectors
>>4326189
Have a good night QM
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>>4326184
God bless the French
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>>4326184
About goddamn time the dice decide to give us the w
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>>4326201
They can be quite useful when they get off their asses
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>>4326184
This is huge, now their left flank is almost wide open and if they don't retreat we can completely encircle the town
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>>4326240
And they have fucked their navy. Let's raid coasts!
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>>4326294
Start kidnapping fishermen
Or perhaps we can do something a bit more wacky, it seems Obregan is defenceless so maybe we can raid it?
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>>4326302
We wouldn't be kidnapping them, we're liberating them.
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>>4326325
Kek
Either way I think the raid idea will be good, we can probably disrupt the supply chain to the front lines and possibly even take some for ourselves
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>>4326338
If the royal Marines are feeling up to it we should send them and 1st company to raid the port.
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>>4326338
>>4326358

You're thinking too small. They should take the city.
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>>4326358
Another option is to capture Mararedo and Hunapu since they seem defenceless.
>>4326366
I don’t believe holding the city will be viable for long since they will definitely come to recapture it because supply. Capturing the cities in the north will definitely be easier and will give us a much need morale boost in the form of 2 captured cities. Possibly three if we continue to Eponia.
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>>4326378
Why not land near Obregan and sit on the road, denying all supply to their entire army? We keep them in combat and eventually they run out of ammo.
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>>4326378
What? Those are even further away, what about the supply problem?
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>>4326383
>>4326382

Just have them storm Everon then, eZ pZ
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>>4326389
but Everon is defended, that's why I suggested up north.
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>>4326392
But if we take Everon we can probably keep it
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>>4326382
Agreed, can’t kill us if they don’t got bullets while we do
>>4326383
It was a bit out there but it’s a possibility
>>4326389
If we get our boats and planes to provide support to the Royal Marines we can pull it off
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We should send our submarines out to camp at their main port and sink any merchant ships that may deliver supplies to the enemy.
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>>4326532
submarines?
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>>4326532
We don’t have submarines
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>>4326569
maybe he means torpedo boats
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i would use our gunboats to interdict the east german supply ships taking guns and ammo to the commies, maybe even take all of those guns for ourselves
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>>4326611
Would be a good idea, except those boats are Soviet boats, and doing so would prompt a more direct response from the Soviets, which we do not want.
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Been gone for a while due to exams, I see that we've finally managed to gain some ground. I agree that attacking Eastern boats is untenable currently, sadly. Excited about the political situation, hopefully the president won't fuck up more.
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>>4327424
He actually hasn’t fucked up that much, he has mostly been beneficial
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>>4327490
Honestly, I can't remember anything that I would consider a fuck-up.
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>>4327563
Yeah, the president is the reason that the French are here and the French are the reason we aren't still smacking against the commie defenses.
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>>4327563
Maybe his commie shit talking sessions but other than that their is none
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Oh man, this here devolved into a parliament tier talk while I was out.

Give me three rolls of 6 for Brit/French/President stuff and we continue.
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Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>4327608
hopefully the brits won't sit on their asses like the French did
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Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4327608
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Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4327608
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>>4327490
I'd say his interference in military matters (forming a company solely to impress the French), while beneficial in this case, is generally harmful. And the commie shittalking sessions are not always beneficial.
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>>4327687
Getting that French company was less expensive than the American option, so it gave us some extra infantry and all the other bonuses
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>>4327628
>>4327639
>>4327643

August 20th

The operational success certainly raised the spirits in the high command and all sort of bold ideas started floating around. The navy officers started proposing raids on the PRS coast and even involving the British marines, despite them barely arriving in Paraiso. While the marines were catching their breath and getting briefed on the situation, the usual intelligence report arrived from London.

The British managed to complete a high altitude flyover above the fleet, photographing the decks. The photographs show six objects covered in tarps on one of the vessels, which perfectly fit the dimensions (width, length and height determined from the shadow cast) of T-34/85 tanks.
(From roll of 4)

That report worked like a cold shower to basically everyone, our high ranking officers, the President, the French and to the British. From our estimates, if everything goes as we predict, they will need a day to unload them and organize into a unit and another to get to the frontline. So they are to be expected in the Corazol area on the 24th/25th at best.

The French themselves notify us that due to absence of anti-tank weapons in their airborne company, they will be leaving the combat area on 22nd. The British are also not too thrilled into performing amphibious operations, knowing about the weapon supplies from those “civilian airliners” that could have armed an additional company or two behind the lines. They might agree on performing a single operation with our forces if we present them something fast enough.
(From roll of 3)

The president on the other hand is not thrilled at all. With news of a ship carrying tanks and two other with god knows what… he is suddenly declaring he will propose a cease fire. Explaining that the events as of now have gone in our (and mainly his) advantage. The lack of urban combat has denied them the propaganda advantage of putting photographs of dead civilians and framing us as the ones to blame. While giving us the spotlight with the now overblown story about the Battle of Hill 135. Combined we that, there are chances to arrange a prisoners exchange, fulfilling our initial demand, and possibly moving the border a few kilometers in our favor.
Or at least this is how the President sees it.
(From roll of 2)

With these developments, the procedure and talks will take at least a day. No explicit order was given from the President to not conduct offensive operations, if we gain extra ground we can get better terms. But if we fail and suffer large losses, that may motivate the PRS to reject any offers and wait for the shipment to counterattack.
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>Side with the president, stand down. Send the battered 1st Battalion back to Ortego, while 2nd Battalion, the mountaineers and the French set up a perimeter in the Hill 135 area.

>Two more days are two more days. If we offer a cease fire while we are still taking ground, they will be more inclined to accept. Second Battalion and the French should force their way east to try and encircle Corazol.
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>>4327700
>>Side with the president, stand down. Send the battered 1st Battalion back to Ortego, while 2nd Battalion, the mountaineers and the French set up a perimeter in the Hill 135 area.

we cant best a tank platoon with outdated AT guns and Piats
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>>4327703
>Side with the president, stand down. Send the battered 1st Battalion back to Ortego, while 2nd Battalion, the mountaineers and the French set up a perimeter in the Hill 135 area.

We'll be at an advantage in a protracted conflict, so I'd say we should let the situation calm down for now, recover our losses and train.
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>>4327703
>Side with the president, stand down. Send the battered 1st Battalion back to Ortego, while 2nd Battalion, the mountaineers and the French set up a perimeter in the Hill 135 area.

We did ok but further combat is likely not to be in our favor
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>>4327703
>Two more days are two more days. If we offer a cease fire while we are still taking ground, they will be more inclined to accept. Second Battalion and the French should force their way east to try and encircle Corazol.
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>>4327703
>Side with the president, stand down. Send the battered 1st Battalion back to Ortego, while 2nd Battalion, the mountaineers and the French set up a perimeter in the Hill 135 area.
We basically won this. The Hill battle is a major political victory and we won’t have to fight those T-34s
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>>4327703
>>Side with the president, stand down. Send the battered 1st Battalion back to Ortego, while 2nd Battalion, the mountaineers and the French set up a perimeter in the Hill 135 area.

we got this in the long run, just wait a few more years until they get assaded and well go back
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also we want american tanks
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>>4327725
We have the option to buy Sherman’s
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>>4327700
QM, do we get our fishermen back?
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>>4327725
Fuck American tanks I want AMX's
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>>4327707
>>4327710
>>4327715
>>4327718
>>4327721


The president’s assessment seems to hold water. Together with the reports of the CO’s that our units are not in a condition to participate in combat for more than two or three days, and considering the rapidly declining stockpile of artillery shells … you brief the men on the new situation.
The British and the French are also informed of the developments and declare they will also vow for termination of hostilities.

Three rolls of 6 for events of 20th
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Rolled 12 (1d20)

>>4327761
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Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4327761
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4327761
Wrong die.
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4327761
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4327761
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>>4327765
>>4327769
>>4327774

The PRS initially declines every offer to end hostilities on our terms. They agree only to “status quo ante bellum” resulting in the DMZ line staying the same and agreeing to only trade POW’s and not return our civilians.
(From roll of 2)

The French, are not thrilled to learn about this development and very politely notify the PRS that if those Soviet tanks arrive on Sahrani, the French will have to send some of their own to guarantee “stability in the area”.
(From roll of 5)

The British on the other hand go absolutely ballistic. Prime Minister Atlee himself, declares that any attempt to derail the peace talks in order to buy time for Soviet aid to arrive, will result in the dispatching the HMS Illustrious aircraft carrier with the appropriate escort of warships to ensure the conflict does not become a second Korea like stalemate resulting in unneeded destruction and loss of life.
(From roll of 6)
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Well, this gives us a pretty good modifier for the "peace" deal. Anything special you want to demand besides taking a few hexes and getting our civilians and POW's back?
(Demanding the town of Corazol wont work)
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>>4327802
God Bless the British and French
Other than getting our guys back I believe we should get 3 things:
1. Commie boats are no longer allowed near the Everon area to make sure they don’t kidnap our civilians (and we get free reign over it)
2. Money
3. PRS admits they kidnapped our fishermen and accept the blame of starting this.
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>>4327802
All the land we captured
A DMZ on their side
Admitting they kidnapped the fishermen and started this
Money specifically to pay the dead soldier's families
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>>4327802
i know the UNCLOS isnt until 1982 but can we claim exclusive econonomic zone for the water above dolores? wouldnt want them to kidnap our fishermen again and there could be oil and such
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>>4327802
Can we also have a victory parade? France and Britain get a prominent part obvs.
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>>4327824
Supporting this too
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>>4327815
>>4327824
These two
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One roll of 6, for the final deal.

And I am sure the President would want to pose next to a destroyed armored car and a captured AA gun on a parade...
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4327845
Your damn right he does!
Dice don’t fail us now
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Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4327845
dog bless the DRS :DDDD
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>>4327845
We can include the rescued fishermen too!
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>>4327848
neat
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>>4327875
Kek
Get the fishermen in the parade
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>>4327848

The PRS, shoved into a corner from all the threats. Agrees to cede the area west of Corazol, release all prisoners, pay a limited amount of reparations to the families of the killed soldiers and further demilitarize the waters around Everon and the Bay of Corazol.
They continue to insist the fishermen are criminals who were smuggling goods into the north (and for all we know, they are right but we will never admit to it) but release them anyways and paint us as terrorists in their propaganda.

Following the signing of the treaty on August 21th, he orders the transportation of captured goods to the capital to be presented as trophies during a parade scheduled for the next week...
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>>4327900
>British casualties: 4 [citation needed]
Lmao
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>>4327900
>710 PRS claims
Kek
Not only did we win tactically and politically but we also got our fishermen back! Complete victory.
Overall we deleted an entire enemy company and the threats of their indirect fire, armour and navy have been significantly reduced.
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>>4327914
No, their armor is scarier now, because of the tanks. We got a win now but we should be worried about future combat. Need to expand on pretty much everything, infantry, artillery, tanks, ect.
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>>4327918
I was talking about the armoured cars. Plus we won’t be seeing those tanks in action for a small bit so we got time to build up. Plus not only do we have the naval advantage but I believe we still have the air advantage too. All though we still gotta wait on what else that shipment has.
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>>4327925
its only transport planes
we need real air force soon
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Now while I rework the map to reflect the new borders, and prepare the equipment readout, roll 4 dices to see if the French and British will stick around and/or provide material aid to recover our losses.
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Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4327932
d6's I'm guessing?
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>>4327926
If we can get some good close air support, it would be huge. It would threaten any support/heavy equipment they decide to use, and force an AA presence wherever they don't have pure infantry.
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4327932
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Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4327926
Agreed, but those barrel bombers did quite good
>>4327932
Presuming it’s a d6
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4327932
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>>4327932
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>>4327934
>>4327936
>>4327937
>>4327939

Yeah, good guess about the d6

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September comes, and the situation quickly returns to the calm days before the hostilities. The president has his fair share of attention and his rating seems to have risen somehow.
The PRS has also put a positive spin on their defeat. In their eyes they successfully defended themselves from “imperialist aggression” and overplayed the involvement of the British and French.

Said French had more pressing matters to worry about in Indochina and decided on not keeping a garrison on the island (from roll of 1). But sent us some small arms and grenades to replenish our stockpile and promised discounts for a year or two on French goods (from roll of 6)

The British kept the marines and stationed them in Dolores (from roll of 3) and have sent us a bunch of ammunition for free, for both small arms and the heavier ordinance. Plus they will also provide us with discounts for surplus equipment as it is expected the PRS will continue to receive shipments for free as the communist military industrial complex expands further (from roll of 6).
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Equipment readout and procurement list soon
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>>4327999
What about the parade?
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>>4327999
Oh boy discounts, thats gonna free up some extra cash
>>4328011
soon
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i know we got french discount but dont buy AMX, they look cute but theyre shit against russian tanks
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>>4327999
Can we also get a report on the status of our units, so we can know how much we need to buy to bring them up to strength?
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>>4328045
That will be in the equipment readout I think.
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Procurement list for 1952:
Current defense budget index value: 23$

Ammunition:
>Buy small arms ammunition for all weapons in service: 3$
>Expand our stockpile of 25pdr ammunition: Costs: 2$

Small arms:
>Buy British small arms for one company: 4$
>Acquire British small arms for one battalion: 11$
>Buy modern French small arms for one company: 5$
>Buy modern French small arms for one battalion: 17$
>Order American M20 “Super Bazookas” to replace some PIAT’s: 7$
>Order a cache of Swedish small arms for trial: 2$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
>Buy British 20mm Oerlikon AA guns: 5$
>Buy Swedish 40mm Bofors AA guns: 7$
>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers: 12$
>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers: 14$
>Buy 6 British 17-pdr (76mm) AT guns to upgrade our AT unit: 17$

Transport Vehicles:
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 10$

Combat Vehicles:
>Buy two American M8 Greyhound armored cars, armed with 37mm gun, 50. Cal M2 and a 30. Cal MG: 11$
>Buy three pre-war French Panhard 178 armored cars, armed with a 25mm gun and a 7mm machine gun: 10$
>Buy two American M8 Scott light fire support tanks, armed with a short 75mm gun and a .50 MG: 18$
>Buy three Swedish Strv m/40 light tanks, armed with 37mm gun and two 8mm machine guns: 19$
>Buy three British Comet medium tanks, armed with 77mm HV gun and a 7.92mm machinr gun: 22$
>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 10$
>Buy three American NAA T-6 “Texan” trainer planes, unarmed: 11$
>Buy one American PBY-5 “Catalina” flying boat for maritime patrol and light bombing: 14$
>Buy three British “Spitfire” fighters, late modification with 4x20mm guns: 21$

Special projects:
>Request a cache of 20mm German shells for the captured AA guns from Spain: 2$
>Contract retired American aviators to mount proper rocket/bomb pylons and machinegun bays on the “Texan” planes: 2$
>Fund the modernization of the airfield to a tarmac track: 3$
>Fortify the hills near Obregan or Hill 135 with few concrete pillboxes: 6$
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Our battalions are indeed a little beat up, we can rearm them to full strength with old French guns we have in storage, buy modern ones with better SMG's and semi-auto rifles (available early due to the roll of 6) or get more British.

The PIAT is now outdated hopelessly but we can buy the new bazookas that proved effective against the T-34's in Korea, the 17-pdr can also deal with them efficiently.

Comet tanks can also pierce the armor of the T-34 at fairly good range as we will be supplied with modern ammo (tank available due to discounts, same goes for the Spitfires)

>>4328031
AMX-13 is still not in production, but its not a bad tank. It can fuck up a T-34 at decent range and that drum autoloader can unleash hell on infantry when HE is loaded, problem comes when T-54/55 comes

>>4328011
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>4328150
>Buy three British “Spitfire” fighters, late modification with 4x20mm guns: 21$
>Contract retired American aviators to mount proper rocket/bomb pylons and machinegun bays on the “Texan” planes: 2$
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>>4328150
>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers: 12$
>Acquire British small arms for one battalion: 11$
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>>4328150
Wasn’t our budget before this 25$? What the fuck President
>Buy small arms ammunition for all weapons in service: 3$
>Buy 6 British 17-pdr (76mm) AT guns to upgrade our AT unit: 17$
>Fund the modernization of the airfield to a tarmac track: 3$
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I believe we need to ask Mr. President to start improving the economy. Possibly start prospecting in the mountains between Dolores and Ambergris or that giant mountain range to the bottom of company 4. We could get our mountaineer division to help out.
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>>4328150
>Buy small arms ammunition for all weapons in service: 3$
>Buy 6 British 17-pdr (76mm) AT guns to upgrade our AT unit: 17$
>Contract retired American aviators to mount proper rocket/bomb pylons and machinegun bays on the “Texan” planes: 2$
>Buy M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
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>>4328150
>Buy three British Comet medium tanks, armed with 77mm HV gun and a 7.92mm machinr gun: 22$

>Buy M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
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>>4328185
Switching vote to this
I still believe we should upgrade that airfield soon though
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Yeah, try to reach a consensus on something otherwise I will be forced to decide on post-ID number what option it will be.

So we save an hour or so, while you duke it out, let three rolls of 6 out for the PRS acquisition in advance.

>>4328167
It was, cuts are made for other things and as it was already raised once due to rising tensions.
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4328195
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4328195
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4328195
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Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>4328195
Big roll coming through!
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>>4328214
>>4328203
Well, I was right, it just wasn't mine.
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>>4328187
I like this one, I vote for this now
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>>4328187
I like this one as well.
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>>4328187
+1
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>>4328187
This
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>>4328240
>>4328263
>>4328265

Ok, this will be it>>4328187

Now, do you want to rearm 1st and 2nd Battalion with the French weapons in stockpile so they are brought back to full strength or let them be undermanned for 1952?

And, do you want the tanks in a independent unit (not recommended as only 3 wont make a substantial force), attach them to a company so they have infantry cover, or keep them in reserve so they can be deployed in a proper fashion when more equipment is acquired later?
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>>4328280
rearm the 1st and 2nd battalion and attach the tanks to the 2nd battalion.
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>>4328288
They have arty attached to them, either move the 25pdr to a different unit or attach the tanks to another unit, companies are compatible.
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>>4328280
Rearm and keep the tank in reserve.
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>>4328308
This
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>>4328305
Than my vote is to keep them in reserve
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>>4328280
Rearm 1st and 2nd Battalion
Combine 1st company, 2nd company and 4th company then attach the tanks to that.
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>>4328308
+1
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>>4328308
>>4328309
>>4328310

Ok, rearming went well as the freed up rifles from 1st Batt. were enough to reinforce 2nd fully with British guns. Now there are some guns left to form another company.

Our agent in the north was silent for a long time, so long we thought he was caught or defected. Turns out he played them really hard and is now … a drill sergeant in their armed forces. He managed to bullshit them he fought as a volunteer in the Spanish Civil War for the communists and they accepted hi offer. He in turn, presents us with a full readout of their armed forces, and lets us know that the PRS received two additional shipments of T-34 tanks, bringing their total to 12.
(From intell roll of 6)

Roll 4 dices of 6 for the 1952 events
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>>4328316

4th Company is armed with French rifles while 1st and 2nd are with British, we cant do that, the formable company as I mentioned earlier will also have to use French ones.
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Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4328326
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Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4328326
KEK
God bless that Spaniard
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Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4328326
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4328326
Oh well then
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>>4328326
Shit that's a lot of t-34
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>>4328340
We are going to need a lot of AT
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>>4328340
only 12 dude
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>>4328344
12 T-34s can overwhelm a company
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>>4328344
>only twelve
You are underestimating them
>>4328345
Basically this
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>>4328326
They have 0 AA, what they shot at us with was taken from the German Schnellboats and now those are in our hands. If we can get a proper airforce going we can gain a serious advantage over the t-34's
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>>4328326
Also, have the pilots fly around and stack up flight hours to increase their skill/experience.
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>>4328345
Understatement, 12 t34s is a tank company on its own, and against leg infantry could smash a battalion under the right conditions
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>>4328345
12 against one of our battalions would give them the advantage
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For both states in Sahrani, 1952 was a quiet year. For us in the outh, the president diverted funds from our budget for developing the hospital in Paraiso. “After all we won the battle, the people will be suspicious of even more military spending when the tensions are low” is what we were told.
(From roll of 3, budget stays at 23$)

In the PRS nothing of notice occurred either. They scored a low uptick in their agriculture focused economy, but it could not be compared with our income and growth.
(From roll of 3)

In the United Kingdom, Atlee lost the elections to none other but Churchill himself. And in order for the new PM to distance himself from the policy of the Atlee cabinet and safeguard that his decisions will not come to bite Churchill in the ass later … he pulled the marines out of Sahrani.
At least the discounts on equipment will remain in place as their economic satiation is far from perfect and they need all the money they can get.
(From roll of 1)

Tensions were not raised on the island. Despite not being used to the new rules and borders, the PRS armed forces did not violate any of the terms or trespassed borders.
(Tension: 30%, from roll of 5)
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>>4328353
If we do, we are going to have to roll for operational losses due to accidents.
Oh and that reminds me to add the Flak38's to the stored equipment list.

>>4328357
Plus they can shell infantry from 2 kilometers (or more) while said infantry will not be able to do jackshit against it.
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How good is late spitfire anyway? We need some more bomber
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>>4328361
Damn you Churchill
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>>4328361
I knew Churchill was a cuck
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>>4328364
>>4328365
It's not like the British have help us so far. Useless bongs. The French fought right next to our boys on that hill.
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>>4328369
We need to start buying shit from america.

Jumbos vs T-34s head on would guarantee our win
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>>4328361
How does the comet's armor hold up vs. the T34?
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>>4328369
The British threat of a carrier with escorts was quite helpful but those French soldiers were the real stars.
They won’t be helping much in around 2 years though
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>>4327900
just wanted to point out, with the ratio of casualties to the number of troops that war was a fucking bloodbath, especially in such a short span of time.
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>>4328375
turret? Goodish
Hull? nope
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>>4328375
Both will kill each other within any reasonable combat range. Comet is a little better at the AT role and long range but the t34 will be better at infantry support.
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>>4328379
Bury tank in ground only showing turret. Real thing they did in war. We don't enough tanks to do that
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Procurement list for 1953:
Current defense budget index value: 23$

Ammunition:
>Buy small arms ammunition for all weapons in service: 3$
>Expand our stockpile of 25pdr ammunition: Costs: 2$

Small arms:
>Buy British small arms for one company: 4$
>Acquire British small arms for one battalion: 11$
>Buy modern French small arms for one company: 5$
>Buy modern French small arms for one battalion: 17$
>Order American M20 “Super Bazookas” to replace some PIAT’s: 7$
>Order a cache of Swedish small arms for trial: 2$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
>Buy British 20mm Oerlikon AA guns: 5$
>Buy Swedish 40mm Bofors AA guns: 7$
>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers: 12$
>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers: 14$
>Buy 6 British 17-pdr (76mm) AT guns to upgrade our AT unit: 17$

Transport Vehicles:
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 10$

Combat Vehicles:
>Buy two American M8 Greyhound armored cars, armed with 37mm gun, 50. Cal M2 and a 30. Cal MG: 10$
>Buy two American M8 Scott light fire support tanks, armed with a short 75mm gun and a .50 MG: 16$
>Buy three Swedish Strv m/40 light tanks, armed with 37mm gun and two 8mm machine guns: 13$
>Buy three British Comet medium tanks, armed with 77mm HV gun and a 7.92mm machinr gun: 21$
>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 8$
>Buy three American NAA T-6 “Texan” trainer planes, unarmed: 10$
>Buy one American PBY-5 “Catalina” flying boat for maritime patrol and light bombing: 11$
>Buy three British “Spitfire” fighters, late modification with 4x20mm guns: 21$

Special projects:
>Request a cache of 20mm German shells for the captured AA guns from Spain: 2$
>Sell the captured 20mm German gun to the CIA so they can give them to some anticommunist guerillas somewhere without trace: +2$
>Contract retired American aviators to mount proper rocket/bomb pylons and machinegun bays on the “Texan” planes: 2$
>Fund the modernization of the airfield to a tarmac track: 3$
>Fortify the hills near Obregan or Hill 135 with concrete pillboxes: 6$
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>>4328393
any chance of a payment plan for the more expensive options?
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>>4328375
Yeah, like the anon below said, they can both take each other out at long range. But the Comet has better rate of fire and more advanced AP shells able to take out WW2 era heavy tanks, in case some IS-2 finds its way on the island...

>>4328398
It is planned for the 60's
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>>4328393
>Sell the captured 20mm German gun to the CIA so they can give them to some anticommunist guerillas somewhere without trace: +2$

Total = $25

>Fund the modernization of the airfield to a tarmac track: 3$
>Order American M20 “Super Bazookas” to replace all PIAT’s: 14$
>Buy modern French small arms for one company: 5$
>Buy small arms ammunition for all weapons in service: 3$

We need to bulk up forces, prepare AT and prepare for proper planes

Do we have intel on the commit fuel reserves? 12 T-34s will chew through petrol

Plus, what is the road situation like on our island? All dirt tracks?
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>>4328401
Nah. With that plan we don't be making use of our discounting hurting ourselves.
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>>4328393
>Sell the captured 20mm German gun to the CIA so they can give them to some anticommunist guerillas somewhere without trace: +2$

>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
>Buy three British “Spitfire” fighters, late modification with 4x20mm guns: 21$
>Fund the modernization of the airfield to a tarmac track: 3$

Next year we can focus on upgrading our AT
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>>4328402
That’s a fair point.

I’ll back this instead then
>>4328407
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Yes its all dirt roads, petrol reserves become a problem if the vehicles become more numerous.
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>>4328413
Could we possibly get the Spaniard to tell us where enemy fuel reserves are so we can blow them up?
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>>4328407
+1
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>>4328407
this looks good
lets start training our pilot
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>>4328393
>Acquire British small arms for one battalion: 11$
>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers: 12$
>Expand our stockpile of 25pdr ammunition: Costs: 2$
>Sell the captured 20mm German gun to the CIA so they can give them to some anticommunist guerillas somewhere without trace: +2$
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>>4328414
Likely decentralized as at that point neither side needs massive oil tanks. And when the time for them comes, foreign intelligence will provide their location for us ... hopefully.

>>4328407
Ok, that was fast.
Three rolls for the PRS ordinance.
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Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4328426
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Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4328426
I am speed
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4328426
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>>4328427
>>4328428
>>4328429

Our agent again very accurately reports that the number of their armed forces has increased by 400 men. Two infantry battalions armed with the same outdated WW2 weaponry template as their other units, likely bought on sale due to the adoption of newer small arms in the eastern bloc. No support units attached to them as of now. Due to the low tensions they are kept away from the border to preserve the secrecy of their existence ... only if they knew that the guy who taught them how to shoot has negated this action.
(From roll of 6)

Four rolls of 6 for 1953 occurrences.
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Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4328439
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4328439
>their armed forces has increased by 400 men
They are at a thousand? We need to pick up our game.
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>>4328439
That's... a lotta dudes
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Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4328439
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>>4328441
>>4328443
>>4328448
>>4328449
Not looking good for us this year
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In 1953, the president announces he will run again in the 1954 election. This was strictly unconstitutional. Some people opposed this decision and were quick to protest, but most of the population still associated him with the economic development, his fiery personality and the victory in the August war.
There is some economic growth but the defense budget barely moves as this time it was a university that the funds were spent on. The option to execute a military coup if he wins the election crosses your mind, but as of now the opposition is way too spineless to get things right. You decide to keep this ace up your sleeve for the 1958 election in case he continues to cut expenses, even when presented with the damn report that the PRS had gotten two new battalions albeit poorly armed.
(From roll of 3, budget +2$)

The PRS enjoyed the gift of not having to be Stalinist anymore. Mostly due to the fact that Stalin died and they have a new set of boots to lick. The iron hand of the regime was slightly eased and some minimal amount of private property for some minimal business was allowed, this will surely land them some economic dividends in the long run, if they do not decide to revert it at some point.
(From roll of 5)

The international situation was only getting more complicated, the Korean war was over, but the French are getting bogged down in Indochina. Riots in East Germany, Stalin died, Eisenhower became president of the USA, Britain was still recovering.
Everyone had other things to worry about and we seemed like absolutely forgotten.
(From roll of 1, discounts for French and British goods no longer in action)

The PRS boosted its confidence with those two battalions (that they still have no idea we know about them) and started running their mouth a little bit (again!). Stalin did die, but his ways of churning out propaganda probably never will, judging from the posters and newspaper caricatures their state press is creating…
(From roll of 3, Tension +5% to 35%)
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haha shit good thing we grabbed those tanks and planes already
now just need artilery and more bodies
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>>4328498
Let us hope President-Chan won’t force our hand
>>4328504
We have lots of AT to upgrade
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>>4328505
I don't wanna coup President-Chan he got us the French and with them the win in that battle.
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>>4328513
Let’s ask him to increase our funds first before we have to do something radical. Plus it’s gonna hurt our international image if we follow through
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Procurement list for 1954:
Current defense budget index value: 25$

Ammunition:
>Expand our stockpiles of artillery and tank ammo: Costs: 4$

Small arms:
>Buy British small arms for one company: 4$
>Buy British small arms for one battalion: 11$
>Buy Israeli UZI sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 6$
>Buy British “Sterling” sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 8$
>Buy French “MAT-49” sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 9$
>Buy modern French small arms for one company: 5$
>Buy modern French small arms for one battalion: 17$
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 6$
>Buy Swedish “Carl Gustav” anti tank weapons for two companies: 11$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
>Buy Swedish 40mm Bofors AA guns: 7$
>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers: 12$
>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers: 14$
>Buy 6 British 17-pdr (76mm) AT guns to upgrade our AT unit: 16$

Transport Vehicles:
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 10$

Combat Vehicles:
>Buy three Swedish Strv m/40 light tanks, armed with 37mm gun and two 8mm machine guns: 11$
>Buy three American M24 “Chaffee” light tanks, armed with a 75mm gun and two M2 50. Machine guns:
>Buy three British Comet medium tanks, armed with 77mm HV gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 23$
>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 8$
>Buy an American “PC-451” gunboat, armed with one 75mm gun and 4x20mm Oerlikon guns: 8$
>Buy three American NAA T-6 “Texan” trainer planes, unarmed: 9$
>Buy one American PBY-5 “Catalina” flying boat for maritime patrol and light bombing: 10$
>Buy two British “Mosquito” attack aircraft, able to carry bombs and rockets. Has 4x20mm guns in the nose: 18$
>Buy three British “Spitfire” fighters, late modification with 4x20mm guns: 23$

Special projects:
>Fortify the hills near Obregan or Hill 135 with concrete pillboxes: 6$
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>>4328523
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for four companies: 12$
>Buy British small arms for one battalion: 11$
>Buy two M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 2$
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>>4328523
>Fortify the hills near Obregan or Hill 135 with concrete pillboxes: 6$
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 6$
>Buy British small arms for one battalion: 11$
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$*2

we bodies on the line and AT
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>>4328523
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 6$
>Buy two British “Mosquito” attack aircraft, able to carry bombs and rockets. Has 4x20mm guns in the nose: 18$
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
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>>4328532
+1
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>>4328529
+1
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>>4328530
+1
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>3 way ties
changing my votes to >>4328529

mosquitos are really good but we can get it next year or when we got a british discount maybe, just 3 spitfires arent enough to bomb the commies.
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>>4328523
>(x2) Expand our stockpiles of artillery and tank ammo: Costs: 8$
>Buy 10 American 6-ton trucks: 8$
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 6$
>Buy 3 M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA 3$

We should focus on improving our logistics, improving our capabilities across all fields and all manner of combat, as opposed to paying through the nose to get the state of the art equipment in just one narrow field, and hoping that we are able to capitalize on it enough before it is hard countered. Using the Texans as an improvised bomber was a stroke of genius, but by the time that we attempted a repeat, there was already a hard counter.

The purchase of the ammo means that we won't be on such a tight clock as before, the 6-tons mean that we can deploy reserves rapidly, and use them to help move equipment if needed (mobile AA, anyone?), the Bazookas mean that we should be able to counter their tanks, so long as our infantry has appropriate support, and the Browning .50 cal machinegun can be used to create defense in depth.
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>>4328523
Can we get any M24 chafees or jumbo shermans?
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>>4328529
Backing this
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>>4328529
This

>>4328523
Update
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>>4328564
Hmm. Well, I guess in the interest of moving things along, I will change my vote from >>4328564 to >>4328529, as it is the closest, and I understand that most people will want to get the fun stuff.
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Changing vote from
>>4328530 to >>4328529
>>4328584
Don’t worry anon we still got some of the stuff you wanted plus we still have next year
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>>4328584
>>4328594
Don't worry anons. Next turn we're going to either shit out companies or get that equipment movement.

We should get more machine guns, and ammo. I got a feeling their going to rush us next war.
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>>4328599
100%
That’s the reason why I voted for the fortification option. Next year we gotta focus on that hill fortification and shit tons of HMGs.
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>>4328529
Ok, took me a while as I was doing research on various short lived ordinance from the 50's.

Soo, AT shit for four companies is equal to a battalion. Here I see three options

>Give the M20's to 2nd Battalion
>Give the M20's to the new 3rd Battalion
>Give the M20's to the 4 companies we have active.

Also, we can deploy the tanks as a support unit attached to the new 3rd Battalion.

While answering, 3 rolls of 6 for the PRS gearing.
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Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4328602
>Give the M20's to the 4 companies we have active.
Our battalions already have AT guns so they are covered for now.
Also give the tanks to the 3rd battalion
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4328602
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4328602
>Give the M20's to 2nd Battalion
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>>4328602
>Give the M20's to the 4 companies we have active.
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>>4328602
>Give the M20's to 2nd Battalion
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Oh man im getting the sudden urge to half-ass a passage.
This means I need to take a break, besides this session is going on for 12 hours plus in case someone has noticed.

Next update may be after more than 20 hours as I have some shit to take care of today and then sleep, so do not panic if there is no update for more than 12.
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>>4328523
>Buy French “MAT-49” sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 9$
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 6$
>Buy 4 M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 4$
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Should have bought the Gustavs, as they would continue being a super effective AT until the min 2000s and are actually still relevant today with new ammunition it has.
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>>4328930
We should still be able to pick up the Gustav later, and either redistribute the bazookas or phase them out. In the face of a larger enemy army, we need to make sure that as many of our men are as well equipped as they can be. So long as the bazookas are effective against the armor that the North has now, then spreading out anti-armor capability across as many companies as possible seems to be the stronger play, instead of having better anti-armor capability across fewer companies.
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>>4329031
I say we focus on anti-infantry and training in the coming years
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>>4329178
They've got 12 T-34-85's, if we ignore that we're going to be in a world of hurt. You can shoot at infantry with anti-tank weapons to some extent, but not the other way around.

>>4328643
How do the Zis guns and PTRD(S?) rifles do against the Comet?
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>>4329580
https://wiki.warthunder.com/Comet_I
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>>4328604
>>4328605
>>4328609

Our agent in their armed forces once again has a good readout for their newest hardware (from roll of 5). The PRS has raised two more companies with the same outdated squad template from mid WW2. They are not deployed on the border area and are kept as reserves.
Their first two battalions have received some recoilless rifles of questionable quality. Each battalion got 4 of those bulky and rather short range SPG-82 launchers that have to be operated by two men at minimum. Effective at anti tank duties at only 300 meters, they can at least penetrate up to 180mm of armor, and out Comet has barely 100mm on the turret. They can also fire HE at a distance of 700m, giving them some token "pocket artillery".

Roll three times 6 for the 1954 events.

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>>4329580
ZiS 76mm guns can be problematic for the side armor from a great range. But if our tanks are dug in, they can not go through the turret even at point blank range /front/. The hull may be penetrated under 500m.

The PTRD AT rifles can go through the side at around 100 meters so shit has to get really intense for that to work.
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Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>4329898
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Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4329898
Welcome back QM, hope you had a good day
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Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4329898
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>>4329902
>1
Based low roller for PRS
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>>4329902
kek
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>>4329909
>Mfw they take back the private property they just gave
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>>4329942
It was a ruse! They found out who all the secret capitalists are.
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In 1954, the president secured his 3rd term without much trouble. The opposition was doing nothing but whining and could not form a coherent argument other than “muh constitution, get out it’s my turn”. Public unrest was generally nonexistent, contrary to the opposition’s promises of protests and mayhem. While the first thing the president did was to present a infrastructure development plan to improve the roads in the country, starting with the capital, you wanted to know how is the military budget going to be affected…

While slightly disappointed it will stay the same as last year, the president understands that a modernization is needed and promised to arrange some kind of military aid package for free.
(From roll of 4)

The PRS on the other hand went into dire straits. It took just one more intense rainy month in the north east and 60% of their GDP was washed away into the ocean together with the dead agriculture goods. The socialist community managed to bail them out of a famine, but they will not be buying anything this year.
(From roll of 1, PRS defense budget gutted for 1954, will be rolling only one for donated goods)

The frustrated northerners, like all commies never admit to their mistakes and just become more hostile when you call them out on their bullshit. Our president knew that very well but decided to basically mock them by offering to take care of their agricultural sector personally as long as they accept to disband their armed forces … they did not take it well.
(Tension +10%, to 45%)

Roll once to see what and how much military aid we get from the president’s efforts.
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Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4329971
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Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4329971
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>>4329976
>>4329977
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>4329976
I can't believe you've done this.
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>>4329976

We got nothing, France has a new war to worry about, Britain is still at a bad economical situation, Israel needs the guns more than we do, Sweden does not give shit out for free ... and with how events in the north went, USA thinks we do not really need free stuff right now.
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>>4329994
haha time for a coup
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>>4329994
>Call the President a cuck
That joke he made to the commies was pretty good though
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>>4329994
That would make the situation worse
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>>4329994
Is third battalion a full strength battalion?

And since all this money is going into "modernization efforts", can we expect good long term growth in our military budget?

>>4330009
At least we have a military budget this year, and PRS doesn't.
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>>4330028
>Is third battalion a full strength battalion?
Yes, but our battalions do not have proper squad anti tank weapons, so thats the only shortage. The PIAT's are about as good as anti-infantry grenade launchers at this point.

>And since all this money is going into "modernization efforts", can we expect good long term growth in our military budget?

If we dont get shit rolls. at least some roads will be upgraded and that helps.
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Tweaking the equipment menu rn, will post soon.
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>>4330044
That's good, how effective are Super Bazookas and Carl Gustav's against T34-85's?
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Procurement list for 1955:
Current defense budget index value: 25$

Ammunition:
>Expand our stockpiles of artillery and tank ammo: Costs: 4$

Small arms:
>Buy British small arms for one company: 4$
>Buy British small arms for one battalion: 11$
>Buy Israeli UZI sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 6$
>Buy British “Sterling” sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 8$
>Buy French “MAT-49” sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 9$
>Buy modern French small arms for one company: 5$
>Buy modern French small arms for one battalion: 17$
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 6$
>Buy Swedish “Carl Gustav” anti tank weapons for two companies: 11$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
>Buy Swedish 40mm Bofors AA guns: 7$
>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers: 12$
>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers: 14$
>Buy American M114 (155mm) howitzers: 19$
>Buy 6 British 17-pdr (76mm) AT guns to upgrade our AT unit: 16$

Transport Vehicles:
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 10$

Combat Vehicles:
>Buy three Swedish Strv m/40 light tanks, armed with 37mm gun and two 8mm machine guns: 11$
>Buy three French modern “Panhard EBR” armored cars, armed with a 75mm gun and one 7.5mm machinegun: 13$
>Buy three American M24 “Chaffee” light tanks, armed with a 75mm gun and two M2 50. Machine guns: 16$
>Buy three American M18 “Hellcat” tank destroyers, armed with a long 76mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 20$
>Buy three British Comet medium tanks, armed with 77mm HV gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 21$

>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 8$
>Buy an American “PC-451” gunboat, armed with one 75mm gun and 4x20mm Oerlikon guns: 8$

>Buy three American NAA T-6 “Texan” trainer planes, unarmed: 9$
>Buy one American PBY-5 “Catalina” flying boat for maritime patrol and light bombing: 8$
>Buy one American PBM “Mariner” flying boat for maritime patrol and bombing: 12$
>Buy two British “Mosquito” attack aircraft, able to carry bombs and rockets. Has 4x20mm guns in the nose, price includes some ordinance: 18$
>Buy three British “Meteor” first generation jet fighters, armed with 4x20mm guns: 24$

Special projects:
>Fortify the hills near Obregan or Hill 135 with concrete pillboxes: 6$
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>>4330074
Effective enough at short range to go through anywhere.
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>>4330074
the supers can pen up to 280mm of armor tthe T34-85s frontal armor has an effective thickness of 90mm we can pen them
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>>4330104
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy two British “Mosquito” attack aircraft, able to carry bombs and rockets. Has 4x20mm guns in the nose, price includes some ordinance: 18$
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>>4330125
I like this but can we get ammo instead of trucks?
>Expand our stockpiles of artillery and tank ammo: Costs: 4$
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>>4330104
>Expand our stockpiles of artillery and tank ammo: Costs: 4$
>Buy 10 American 6-ton trucks: 8$
>Buy 7 M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 7$
>Fortify the hills near Obregan or Hill 135 with concrete pillboxes: 6$
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>>4330104
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for four companies: 12$
>Expand our stockpiles of artillery and tank ammo: Costs: 4$
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
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>>4330132
+1
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>>4330132
+1
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>>4330132
You what changing my vote to this we need the trucks in the long run for logistics
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>>4330132
>Fortifications
We can call it the Maginot 2
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>>4330134
this
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>>4330132
Sure, but those Tank Destroyers and Mosquitoes are looking real nice, we'll need to get some of those next time.
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>>4330104
Can we start getting the data sheet of our forces again after every purchase?
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>>4330174
Agreed, maybe the PRC will roll another 1
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>>4330179
I just really really like the idea of air support. Even if they do get AA and sit it on top of their tanks (which I doubt they will), we can just have the planes kill all their other support weapons.
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>>4330132
Ok, this goes forward...
Now those 10 trucks can sit in reserve (passive logistics bonus) or be used to motorize two infantry companies.

And choose if you want the pillboxes in the south hills around Obregan (where 3rd battalion is stationed) or on 135, where the 1st is.

>>4330178
Yes, small arms number of "in field" might be off somwhere but thats cosmetic. Stored equipment is accurate for sure.
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>>4330218
Anons we need more numbers. The PRS may have shit in equipment, but they'll rush our ass
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>>4330222
Nice trips
Also they only have 100 more on. We now have a bunch of HMGs, air support and armoured pillboxes. I say we replace the STENs next turn and give our troops more advanced SMGs to fuck the commie infantry with and more M2 ammo.
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>>4330222
I agree but I keep getting outvoted. Tanks can breakthrough at a place of their choosing and then infantry floods through after. We have no way to stop that.
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>>4330218
Oh, place it near where the 3rd battalion is.
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>>4330222
>>4330227
>>4330229
how about we get troops for the next 3 years?
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>>4330236
Ok, placing them looking north and northeast.
Two rolls for whatever is delivered to the PRS out of pity.
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>>4330238
nah, they cant do shit against fortified position +MGs no matter how many bodies they throw. we need real bomber planes
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>>4330238
I want to finish upgrading our shit first.
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>>4330248
Lul just drive around it with tanks. They have enough to encircle it.
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Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4330244
nice dubs QM
cmon dice, get me a 1
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4330229
This

>>4330227
>>4330252
We NEED proper countermeasures to their tanks before we make our infantry pretty. Ideally imo Tank Destroyers and/or Close Air Support.

>>4330244
rolling
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>>4330258
Upgrading our stuff includes our AT guns and getting more Bazookas but I do agree those tanks are gonna be a bitch to deal with and we need to invest more into dealing with them effectively.
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>>4330218
I vote to have the trucks just provide a passive logistics bonus. We had issues with ammunition in the past war, and that will only be amplified by more boots on the ground.
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>>4330260
Bazookas are nice, but they don't deal with them from range. I'm ok with getting them so long as we get other means of killing the tanks as well as a complement.
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>>4330255
>>4330258

Our agent reports the delivery of 4 122mm M-30 howitzers from the massive postwar stockpile of the USSR. They are sent to upgun the support artillery company paired with 2nd Battalion, which is stationed north east of Corazol.

Three rolls of 6 for 1955 events.
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We got the 6 concrete pillboxes in construction, will be ready in 1955, six fiddy cals allocated to the sector.
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Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4330275
nat 1
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Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4330275
that coup option is lookin nice
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Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>4330275
Come on lucky rolls!
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Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4330275
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>>4330278
KEK
PRC on suicide watch
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Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4330275
>>4330278
fug
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>>4330278
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>4330282
>>4330284
the 2nd roll is for the PRC, this is good for us
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>>4330278
Poor communist farmers, you better hope there's more welfare artillery available.
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>>4330285
I lost a bet to your roll.
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>>4330278
DO NOT
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>>4330285
feels strange rolling for our enemies
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>>4330285
PRS you mean
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The president started his infrastructure modernization by paving the road from Paraiso to Tiberia and expanding the port storage facilities. With tensions low, the situation in PRS and the recent criticisms from the opposition that the bunker money could’ve been spent on a school (oh, will someone think of the children) or a hospital … the defense budget will not be increased.
(From roll of 3)

The north’s agricultural problems persist. Their budget is going towards securing food deliveries from Europe and will rely on donations again.
Our president commented on the situation only with “Why didn’t you listen?”
(From roll of 1)

No incidents occurred with the north in 1955, but some of our officers think that if the PRS is faced with a massive unrest problem, they may stage an incident or outright attack us to provide a distraction (and reduce the number of people to feed).
(Tension +5% to 50%)
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>>4330299
I don't want too anon but if he doesn't start upping our budget he is gonna force our hand
>>4330304
Pretty wack
>>4330305
You are correct
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Procurement list for 1956:
Current defense budget index value: 25$

Ammunition:
>Expand our stockpiles of artillery and tank ammo: Costs: 4$

Small arms:
>Buy British small arms for one company: 4$
>Buy British small arms for one battalion: 11$
>Buy Israeli UZI sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 6$
>Buy British “Sterling” sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 7$
>Buy French “MAT-49” sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 9$
>Buy modern French small arms for one company: 5$
>Buy modern French small arms for one battalion: 17$
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 6$
>Buy Swedish “Carl Gustav” anti tank weapons for two companies: 11$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
>Buy Swedish 40mm Bofors AA guns: 7$
>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers: 11$
>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers: 13$
>Buy American M114 (155mm) howitzers: 18$
>Buy 6 British 17-pdr (76mm) AT guns to upgrade our AT unit: 14$

Transport Vehicles:
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 10$

Combat Vehicles:
>Buy three French modern “Panhard EBR” armored cars, armed with a 75mm gun and one 7.5mm machinegun: 13$
>Buy three American M24 “Chaffee” light tanks, armed with a 75mm gun and two M2 50. Machine guns: 15$
>Buy three American M18 “Hellcat” tank destroyers, armed with a long 76mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 18$
>Buy three British Comet medium tanks, armed with 77mm HV gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 20$
>But three American M36 “Jackson” tank destroyers, armed with a 90mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 21$

>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 6$
>Buy an American “PC-451” gunboat, armed with one 75mm gun and 4x20mm Oerlikon guns: 8$

>Buy one American PBY-5 “Catalina” flying boat for maritime patrol and light bombing: 8$
>Buy one American PBM “Mariner” flying boat for maritime patrol and bombing: 12$
>Buy two British “Mosquito” attack aircraft, able to carry bombs and rockets. Has 4x20mm guns in the nose, price includes some ordinance: 18$
>Buy three British “Meteor” first generation jet fighters, armed with 4x20mm guns: 24$

Special projects:
>Six concrete pillboxes: 6$
>Sign a contract to acquire four American F-84G “Thunderjet” jet fighter-bombers on a payment plan: 36$ (either 2x18$ or 4x9$)
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>>4330361
>Buy British small arms for one battalion: 11$
>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers: 11$
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
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>>4330361
>Buy British “Sterling” sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 7$
>Buy three American M18 “Hellcat” tank destroyers, armed with a long 76mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 18$
I feel like this is good
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>>4330361
>>Buy Israeli UZI sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 6$

>Buy American M114 (155mm) howitzers: 18$
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>>4330370
I'm a bit iffy on the SMG's, I think we need more guns, not better ones, first, so we can actually man the line, especially not SMG's which I'm not sure will be very useful, as they had not been so far.

On the other had, tank destroyers, so for now you get my +1.
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>>4330361
>Buy 2 M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 2$
>Buy modern French small arms for one company: 5$
>Buy three American M18 “Hellcat” tank destroyers, armed with a long 76mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 18$
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>>4330381
Changing vote to this
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>>4330381
I’ll back this

We need to invest in another battalion of troops next turn though - plus some more arty
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>>4330381
Changing vote to this
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>>4330381
>>4330385
>>4330396
>>4330398

You got it!
Just say how exactly you want the M18's deployed.

>Together with the Comet tanks of 3rd Battalion
>Replacing the 6pdr guns as AT element of 1st battalion. (6pdrs go back to storage)
>In new a Independent motorized company as core AT/SPG (new company receives 5 trucks from storage and the new french guns).
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>>4330409
>Together with the Comet tanks of 3rd Battalion
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>>4330411
>Together with the Comet tanks of 3rd Battalion
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>>4330409
>In new a Independent motorized company as core AT/SPG (new company receives 5 trucks from storage and the new french guns).

We want our AT to be mobile to respond to where the T34's may reposition
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>>4330409
>>4330420
Also, can we
>Form an HMG Support Company in 3rd Battalion
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So guys when do you plan to buy some planes ?
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>>4330409
>In new a Independent motorized company as core AT/SPG (new company receives 5 trucks from storage and the new french guns).
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>>4330427
I was planning to do it for our next purchase. IMO those jet fighter-bombers are looking pretty juicy, same cost per plane as the mosquitoes, and being jets they are harder to shoot down.
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>>4330361
>Ammunition
QM, can you please let us know how long these stockpiles would last for in open conflict?
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>>4330424
>>4330420
I don't think that three tank destroyers with infantry support are enough to counter up to twelve enemy tanks, no matter how nice the guns are. If we could pull the Comets off of the third, and put them with the M18s and the hypothetical motorized infantry, then that I would vote for.

Also at some point can we build armories in our major cities, and then send the obsolete guns to them?
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>>4330409
>Together with the Comet tanks of 3rd Battalion
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>>4330441
Oh, that's what I thought that option was.

Yeah my vote is also for the Comets to be pulled into this new Company.
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>>4330409
>>Together with the Comet tanks of 3rd Battalion
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>>4330409
>>Together with the Comet tanks of 3rd Battalion
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>>4330458
>>4330456
>>4330445
>>4330411
Why? If we stick the TD's onto a battalion the T34's can just got ruin our day somewhere else. Why not put them and the Comets into their own dedicated battalion to counter the T34's wherever they go?
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>>4330465
own dedicated company* or unit whatever term you want to use
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Changing vote from
>>4330411 to >>4330420
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>>4330420
This
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>>4330458
>>4330456
>>4330445
>>4330424

Ok, stationing them with the 3rd Batt. for now, you can detach them later.
Reforming 3rd Company with the new semi-auto rifles.

Two rolls of 6 for PRS commie charity
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Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4330478
Votes got changed right before you updated kek
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>>4330478
Forgot the thing
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Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>4330478
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>>4330479
yeah a bit miffed it was called during a close vote in the middle of discussion, but it's not as if tension is especially high, and it's undoable.
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>>4330479
>>4330482

The PRS has received surplus 37mm "61-K" AA guns as the Soviet Union has adopted more advanced designs and are giving out old stuff for free. The efficiency of the guns against low slow flying targets is good but thats about it.
They can hurt when pointed at soft targets too.

The guns are paired with the tank unit at Everon but our agent could not give us a proper number, his guesses vary between 4 and 12 guns.
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>>4330501
I think that means that the Texans are no longer viable for bombing runs, unless we can guarantee that there are no AA units in the area.
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>>4330501
>only useful against low slow flying targets
Jets looking even better now
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>>4330434

Small arms will hold out well for two weeks of turbo fighting if its like the 1951 war. Heavy shells get depleted faster, but we can arrange resupplying from foreign countries while the fighting is going on.
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>>4330516
It's getting late for me so I gtg for tonight, but for the upcoming military budget give my +1 to anyone who suggests aircraft purchase (with priority to the fighter-bomber jets)
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Three rolls of 6 for 1956 events.
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4330603
If I roll another 1 I swear
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Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4330603
>>4330607
Don't worry I'll get it for you.
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4330603
The president can stay as long as he wants. If we get our money
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>>4330611
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>>4330611
This is just pathetic
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>>4330613
3 Straight rolls of 1 for PRS
Rushing Starving Children Soldiers incoming

Nice 6 on our spy actions
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>>4330621
We should ready up some refugee camps for all those starving people about to cross the border
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>>4330607
>>4330611
>>4330612

On our side of the island, the president continues to pave roads and gloat about our free and well fed society. The worries that the north might attack us to give the population something to worry about, are not entirely founded in reality … but we keep bugging the government with it to the point where they divert some additional funds to the defense budget.
Later, another allocation of funds was made, after the flopped Franco-British intervention in Suez that showed we can not rely 100% on foreign armed forces.
(From our roll of 5, budget +4 to 29$)

The agricultural problems of the north persist and tensions are rising amount their own population. Their armed forces might have to deal with pacifying an insurrection next year if things do not start to go their way…
(From PRS roll of 1)

The actual tensions are dropping, despite what we keep telling the president. The PRS has other things to worry about and the Suez crisis shifted attention away from our sector and at this point, the bombastic speeches of our president are starting to get repetitive and stale.
(Tension -10 to 40%)
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Procurement list for 1957:
Current defense budget index value: 29$

Ammunition:
>Expand our stockpiles of artillery and tank ammo: Costs: 4$

Small arms:
>Buy British small arms for one company: 4$
>Buy British small arms for one battalion: 11$
>Buy Israeli UZI sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 6$
>Buy British “Sterling” sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 7$
>Buy French “MAT-49” sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 9$
>Buy modern French small arms for one company: 5$
>Buy modern French small arms for one battalion: 17$
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 6$
>Buy Swedish “Carl Gustav” anti tank weapons for two companies: 11$
>Sign a contract for the delivery of FN FAL rifles to rearm one battalion: 21$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
>Buy Swedish 40mm Bofors AA guns: 7$
>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers: 11$
>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers: 13$
>Buy American M114 (155mm) howitzers: 18$
>Buy 6 British 17-pdr (76mm) AT guns to upgrade our AT unit: 14$

Transport Vehicles:
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 10$

Combat Vehicles:
>Buy three French modern “Panhard EBR” armored cars, armed with a 75mm gun and one 7.5mm machinegun: 13$
>Buy three American M24 “Chaffee” light tanks, armed with a 75mm gun and two M2 50. Machine guns: 13$
>Buy three American M18 “Hellcat” tank destroyers, armed with a long 76mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 16$
>Buy three French AMX-13 new light tanks, armed with long autoloaded 75mm gun and a 7.5mm machinegun: 19$
>Buy three British Comet medium tanks, armed with 77mm HV gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 19$
>Buy three American M36 “Jackson” tank destroyers, armed with a 90mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 21$
>Buy three new British “Charioteer” medium tanks, armed with 84mm gun and a 30. Cal machine gun: 24$
>Buy three American new M47 “Patton II” tanks, armed with a 90mm gun and two M2 machine guns: 32$ (payment plan 2x16)

>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 6$
>Buy an American “PC-451” gunboat, armed with one 75mm gun and 4x20mm Oerlikon guns: 7$

>Buy one American PBY-5 “Catalina” flying boat for maritime patrol and light bombing: 8$
>Buy one American PBM “Mariner” flying boat for maritime patrol and bombing: 11$
>Buy three British “Meteor” first generation jet fighters, armed with 4x20mm guns: 22$
>Buy four American F-84G “Thunderjet” jet fighter-bombers on leasing: 36$ (either 2x18$ or 4x9$)

Special projects:
>Six concrete pillboxes: 6$

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Many shiny new things, checkem.
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>>4330686
Panhard EBR
Fast boys, 71 mph or 115km/h
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>>4330686
>Buy British small arms for one battalion: 11$
>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers: 11$
>Expand our stockpiles of artillery and tank ammo: Costs: 4$
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA : 1$ x3
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>>4330686
>Expand our stockpiles of artillery and tank ammo: Costs: 4$
>Buy British small arms for one battalion: 11$
>Buy modern French small arms for one company: 5$
>Buy four American F-84G “Thunderjet” jet fighter-bombers on leasing: (4x9$)
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>>4330686
>Buy British small arms for one battalion: 11$
>Buy four American F-84G “Thunderjet” jet fighter-bombers on leasing: 4x9$
>Buy French “MAT-49” sub machine guns to replace the STEN: 9$

Jets + more (better equiped) troops
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>>4330702
sopport
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>>4330702
+1
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>>4330702
Changing to this basically the same
+1
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>>4330702
+1
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>>4330702
+1

Can we start arming the protestors on the other side?
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>>4330787
yeah we need to rise the tension, not arming them but using agressive propaganda maybe?
or we could go full steam ahead and do a Marco Polo bridge style incident
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>>4330686
Really want the Chaffee to be our MBT.
We can swap out the .50 cals and put in some of our other automatic guns in them and the MAT-49, but its a tad to pricey right now...

>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers: 11$
I think this should be our artillery backbone for now, easy to use, aim, traverse and rapid fire.
How many do we get per purchase, just one?

>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
Logistics wins wars, and we should have a truck for every artillery gun, its crew and ammo. We can upgrade to motorized infantry units with high mobility to out maneuver the enemy

>Buy modern French small arms for one company: 5$
We should standardize around the French guns and 7.5×54mm round, (can be convert to fire 7.64 Nato standard later), and British .303 has corrosive primers which wear out the guys faster if not cleaned after every use.

$9 left, maybe we should get the MAT49.......

>>4330702
I really don't think we should spend it on jet fighters just yet. We already have air superiority, and PRS doesn't even have an airforce yet. If we get jets, then the other side will HAVE to start getting jets too, and probably will get it for free too.
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>>4330803
I got a better idea.
We offer free food and jobs to anyone who defects to our side, particularly attractive women, and honest hard working men.

Dump food crates off the shores that will float to their coastal villages clearly marked and even wrapped in our country's flag or with propaganda messages.

Mention that we also have food surpluses that we would sell to anyone brave enough to make the trip, but we don't accept PRS script unless we need to use it to bribe their people. Barter with goods or even weapons and ammo, or information.

For extra trolling points, we can ask our agent of someone he doesn't or might be a threat to him but not connected to him directly, and try to "recruit" some of their people to spread fake lies about some of their men into being our double agents or on our payroll, and get them gulaged.
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>>4330852
the free food and jobs sounds good to demoralize their side

the food crates depends too much on luck, maybe if we disguise some fishing boats to dump the crates as close as posible?

sounds good but it will only work if there is corruption among their ranks.

it could be but even then it is too risky

That being said, are we sure they don't have spies on our side as well?
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>>4330874
Odds are they do have spies.
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>>4330702
>>4330709
>>4330711
>>4330723
>>4330787

I did those already in the table, but had to get my arse up and out and do stuff before I could post it.

Here is the thing and I am calling the session of now to be completed. Next one will begin with me requesting the rolls for the PRS charity since the poor commies are "numba wan", in about 14 hours or so.
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>>4330874
>fishing boats
Commie boogaloo: electric fisherman 2

I figure we can just dump it with the wind and water current in our favor and let them drift over to the shores over the cover of darkness, and outside of their waters.

Otherwise a high altitude airdrop far outta their AA range would work for outlying villages and areas hit hard with food shortages. Stuff like baby formula, flour, preserved meats, hard bread, sugar, chocolate, and other goods.
All in water proof wrap and propaganda or patriotic pictures of our stuff on the wrappers.

Just spend a bit of our budget on it, or we can just approach the guy we haven't overthrown yet with this plan and let him bankroll it for us.

>>4330891
I would assume so too, but getting into the nitty gritty of making a proper spy agency and counter espionage, doing sweeps, or inserting more of our own spies into the other side would detract from the fun and bog things down for this style of quest structure.
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>>4330843
We get 4 25-pdr's per purchase

Also, the point of the jets is to use them to bomb the enemy now that air superiority is achieved.
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>>4330896
Does their tank company have a means to tow their AA guns besides the tanks? If not, either it's gonna put stress on the T34 engines and/or their mobility is going to be dramatically reduced.
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>>4330935
planes going to their airzone will look like we want to rise the tensions
what if we ask the SPR that we want to distribute humanitarian aid to the villages near the border
if they refuse it will look that they care more for their apearance than their people
if they agree they will seem weak and we distribute aid with our flag and proganda everywhere
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>>4330984
>distribute aid with our flag and proganda everywhere
This is a great idea

Can it be a special project to distribute food packets and leaflets from the air?
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>>4330984
This would work, assuming that the people knew that the PRS refused our assistance, which is not guaranteed. That said, as far as our politics are concerned, it would probably be good for our president either way.
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>>4330969
We actually have or almost have Air Supremacy.

They don't even have a balloon for air power.

>>4330984
It'd probably be easier and safer to use loud speakers over the boarder, and broadcasts with newspapers, radio and tv if it exists yet. It'd be cheaper too probably, and the other side can just lie about us and what we are trying to do for their people unless they are somehow aware or have other ways to get information to each other.

We can also open up some bakeries and smoke houses and aim the exhaust towards their country to draw them in and make them hungry.
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If we want to be a a little bit more dickish we can just do what northern cyprus did and put fuck huge propaganda on the hill we just captured, facing their city so they can have a nice view of it.
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>>4331022
it glows in night too for even more big dick propagandan power
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>>4331022

This is what hill 135 is for.
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>>4330896
Thanks for QMing
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>>4330896
Big question, but don't the Americans have a fuckton of leftover Shermans we could be buying? It's just I don't think we would have an option to buy the new stuff but not buy the Shermans, considering the situation.
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>>4331022
absolute fucking roaches
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>>4331046
If each hex is 20km, then isn't hill 135 to far away from Corazol to be easily seen in the city (or town)?
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>>4331474
He changed it to 15km last I heard so yes.
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Slept in a bit, roll two dices of 6 while I make coffee.
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Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4332384
I slept with your mum
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Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>4332384
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Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4332384
Hope you had a nice sleep QM
>>4332388
Hilarious
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>>4332388
>>4332389

The latest donation the PRS got was about a dozen used trucks from the Soviet Union, as the red army has moved to using more APC's and making better trucks. The vehicles are likely bundled together with the tank unit, to improve their supply capabilities.
(the AA guns are towed by leftover GAZ jeeps from that slapped recon unit)

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>>4330984
>>4330999
>>4331022
>>4331024


Trying to pull off "A Reagan maneuver" by forcing them to spend money on dumb shit is a possibility, honestly at this point it may be realistic enough to try and take em down without having a "liberation war" but that will make the whole gearing up be pointless.

>>4331220
Well, decided since we have Comets which are about (almost) as good as the Easy 8's, to not include them in the list ... the French upgraded ones with the better guns on the other hand, I simply forgot about.
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Three rolls of 6 for 1957.
If the PRS rolls a 1 again, we may be seeing some interesting developments...
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Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4332421
as long as we don't roll a 1
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4332421
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>>4332424
You have to be joking me
>>4332425
come on
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4332421
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>>4332431
it was a good roll my dude
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>>4332421
The real Cold War was the weapons we bought along the way...
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>>4332421
Can we just buy the tank turrets of the Shermans? I want my movable tank turret in the ground. Cheaper and since Americans tanks use interchanging parts we could buy some cheap shit
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>>4332443
That one was for the PRS
>>4332449
The real morale of the story here
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>>4332421
>Trying to pull off "A Reagan maneuver" by forcing them to spend money on dumb shit is a possibility, honestly at this point it may be realistic enough to try and take em down without having a "liberation war" but that will make the whole gearing up be pointless.
Welcome to the Cold .
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>>4332461
Wait what ?
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>>4332424
"as long as it isn't a 1"
ok then, here's a 2 lmao

>>4332458
That's called an AT gun, and isn't as desirable for us because it's immobile, and T34's can go around it.
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>>4332463
>Trying to pull off "A Reagan maneuver" by forcing them to spend money on dumb shit is a possibility, honestly at this point it may be realistic enough to try and take em down without having a "liberation war" but that will make the whole gearing up be pointless.
Welcome to the Cold War.
>>4332464
Yeah the second roll is normally for the PRS developments.
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>>4332465
Make a line of AT guns and they'll have to go through some of them. But for real, we just have to get our people better equipped so we can shell them, bomb them, and stop any tanks
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>>4332472
>Yeah the second roll is normally for the PRS developments.
Isn’t this only when it’s just 2 rolls ? So who gets the third roll ?
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>>4332475
Third roll is for tension
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>>4332474
With how expensive the capable AT guns are, it's cheaper to get tanks/planes than to buy AT guns for every frontline unit and the infantry equipment to support them.
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>>4332480
Yup. With that roll of 2 we could lose some funding. We got the planes, but could always use more.
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>>4332483
We're not losing funding, they are. We got a 5, we're still swimming in cash relatively
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>>4332487
disregard, I'm bad at reading
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For about the first time for some years there were some internal political problems for the president. His party split into two parties and the ones that broke off demand an early election. That of course did not happen, the elections are scheduled for 1958 as usual.
You think about supporting the breakaways, until you learn that they are also not very fond of boosting the defense budget. Luckily we dodge a reduction in the budget on the grounds that the money are needed to pay for those shiny F-84G jets, but next year is going to be interesting for sure…
(From roll of 2)

Thanks to massive support from the Soviet Union, in hardware and specialists, plus the expanded fishing flotilla finally manages to defeat the shortage of agricultural goods. Of course they spun it as a glorious independent victory of the socialist ideal against the decadent west … which may have worked on the peasants, but we all know what is going on outside.
(From roll of 5, PRS is out of the woods, but their budget still won’t be recovered and will once again rely on gibs from big daddy USSR)

Once again, the north was too preoccupied with their own problems to fuck around in the border area or make threats, the latter until they crawled out of the hole they made themselves and declared that if we dare do a move, “they will defeat us like the famine” … hope no one interprets it as “it will take us three years to do so” in the north or he’s going to jail.
(Tension +5% to 45%)
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As the elections are next year, we can back a side. That would mean they will have pass to cheat a little bit and we cover for them when they win, enforcing they secure office.

>Back the President loyalist party.
The president has appointed a successor as party leader that promises to continue his balanced spending between civilian and military projects, while not entangling himself too much in international politics.

>Back the new conservative party. Their program is focused on cutting military spending so it seems counter intuitive, but plan on increasing international cooperation to the point we get a permanent garrison of western powers. They may be good in securing discounts too.

>Back the liberal party. They are an absolute wildcard, they have not had much power since the late 40's and may be scared for their position of power if they get to it, so it might be easy to manipulate them to our whims.

>Do not interfere. Whoever wins, wins!
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>>4332521
Can we run?
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>>4332521
>Back the President loyalist party.

we just need to not have new conservatives elected
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>>4332521
>Back the liberal party. They are an absolute wildcard, they have not had much power since the late 40's and may be scared for their position of power if they get to it, so it might be easy to manipulate them to our whims.
Let's roll
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>>4332521
>Back the liberal party. They are an absolute wildcard, they have not had much power since the late 40's and may be scared for their position of power if they get to it, so it might be easy to manipulate them to our whims.

shadow government here we come
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>>4332521
>Back the liberal party. They are an absolute wildcard, they have not had much power since the late 40's and may be scared for their position of power if they get to it, so it might be easy to manipulate them to our whims.
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>>4332521
>Do not interfere. Whoever wins, wins!
so much for Democracy
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>>4332521
>Back the President loyalist party.
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>>4332521
>Back the liberal party. They are an absolute wildcard, they have not had much power since the late 40's and may be scared for their position of power if they get to it, so it might be easy to manipulate them to our whims.
Fuck it, I blame the president for this situation. Just gotta guarantee that the New Conservatives don’t get into power
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>>4332521
>>Back the liberal party. They are an absolute wildcard, they have not had much power since the late 40's and may be scared for their position of power if they get to it, so it might be easy to manipulate them to our whims.
i feel like this might hurt us somehow , but who cares we /deep state/ now boys
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>>4332527
>>4332531
>>4332533
>>4332537
>>4332538
>>4332541
I swear to god we need stability.
I wish I could defect.
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>>4332524
>The Military Junta party, Focus on National security, and organization mass national defense and ensure a bomb shelter in every home, for every family stock with food to outlast a commie siege!
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>>4332546
>cold war
>stability
youre not doing it right man
GLADIO bois ww@?
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>>4332521
>Back the President loyalist party.
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>>4332546
Rather have some political stability and be free than be communist
>>4332549
Why don’t we all just do this? We can assure funding and be in charge of the whole thing
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>>4332546
Defect to where my boy ? Austrian boys gang up
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>>4332554
Our western allies might not like it and might support us less, also would bring issues with our legitimacy with the public, which might lead to a worse economy. It's better to have a figurehead that at least looks legitimate.
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>>4332554
only USA can get away with blatantly supporting a dictatorship and so far we havent been to close to them yet
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>>4332560
>>4332568
Fair points
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>>4332554
We'd need to be super cereal about it tho.

>>4332560
If we become christian and anti communist, most Americans would love us, or let the other issues slide.

We can even send men over to their battles in Korea and such for additional international attention and aid in return.

We can even net some free weapons and gear by sending unarmed soldiers so they would have to knit out our boys too, and they bring back the weapons. Not to mention the war bounty we can get from captured enemy weapons. It'd open up the ability to do deniable or covert and clandestine opts in the enemy country with captured weapons, and train there too since we have a well placed guy that can teach em the ropes.
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>>4332537
Changing vote to
>Do not interfere. Whoever wins, wins!
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>>4332568
We can be a republic in all but name and bullshit the west and put on a show once in a while. So long as we control the true levels of power and allow puppet elected officials to run that we control, its all good.
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>>4332521
>Do not interfere. Whoever wins, wins!
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>>4332521
>Do not interfere. Whoever wins, wins!
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>>4332521
>Do not interfere. Whoever wins, wins!

We only intervene in politics if the security of the nation is at risk.

It is not at risk at the moment
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>>4332597
>>4332601
>>4332651
1 post by this ID
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>>4332652
So what? It happens to just sit back & enjoy a thread & decide to jump in late I also have a right to vote
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>>4332521
>Back the liberal party. They are an absolute wildcard, they have not had much power since the late 40's and may be scared for their position of power if they get to it, so it might be easy to manipulate them to our whims.
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>>4332763
>>4332541
>>4332538
>>4332537
>>4332533
>>4332531
>>4332527


Oh, well ... now we need a radio host named Alexandrios Jorjes to rag on the "liberal agenda"...

Procurement list soon...
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Procurement list for 1958:
Current defense budget index value: 20$ (-9$ due to payments on the F-84G's)

Ammunition:
>Expand our stockpiles of artillery and tank ammo: 4$
>Buy HVAR rockets to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 4$

Small arms:
>Buy British small arms for one company: 4$
>Buy British small arms for one battalion: 11$
>Buy modern French small arms for one company: 5$
>Buy modern French small arms for one battalion: 17$
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 6$
>Buy Swedish “Carl Gustav” anti tank weapons for two companies: 11$
>Sign a contract for the delivery of FN FAL rifles to rearm one battalion: 20$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
>Buy Swedish 40mm Bofors AA guns: 7$
>Buy British QF 25-pdr (87mm) howitzers: 11$
>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers: 13$
>Buy American M114 (155mm) howitzers: 18$
>Buy 6 British 17-pdr (76mm) AT guns to upgrade our AT unit: 14$

Transport Vehicles:
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 10$

Combat Vehicles:
>Buy three French modern “Panhard EBR” armored cars, armed with a 75mm gun and one 7.5mm machinegun: 12$
>Buy three American M24 “Chaffee” light tanks, armed with a 75mm gun and two M2 50. Machine guns: 12$
>Buy three American M18 “Hellcat” tank destroyers, armed with a long 76mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 15$
>Buy three French AMX-13 new light tanks, armed with long autoloaded 75mm gun and a 7.5mm machinegun: 19$
>Buy three British Comet medium tanks, armed with 77mm HV gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 19$
>Buy three American M36 “Jackson” tank destroyers, armed with a 90mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 21$ (payment plan 3x7$)
>Buy three new British “Charioteer” medium tanks, armed with 84mm gun and a 30. Cal machine gun: 24$ (payment plan 2x12$)
>Buy three American new M47 “Patton II” tanks, armed with a 90mm gun and two M2 machine guns: 32$ (payment plan 2x16$)

>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 6$
>Buy an American “PC-451” gunboat, armed with one 75mm gun and 4x20mm Oerlikon guns: 7$
>Buy two modern British “Dark” motor torpedo boats, armed with a 40mm Bofors gun and 4 torpedoes: 12$

>Buy one American PBM “Mariner” flying boat for maritime patrol and bombing: 11$

Special projects:
>Six concrete pillboxes: 6$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
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>>4332805
>Buy one American PBM “Mariner” flying boat for maritime patrol and bombing: 11$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
>Buy HVAR rockets to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 4$
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>>4332805
>Expand our stockpiles of artillery and tank ammo: 4$
>Buy HVAR rockets to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 4$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
>Buy three American M36 “Jackson” tank destroyers, armed with a 90mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 21$ (payment plan 3x7$)
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>>4332805


Ammunition:
>Expand our stockpiles of artillery and tank ammo: 4$
>Buy HVAR rockets to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 4$

Our current ammo situation isn't great in these areas, and we really need both of these.

Unfortunately, this doesn't leave a lot of money for vehicles, and I think it's better to keep to certain types rather than get a soup of different ones that will be expensive and difficult to maintain ammo for.

Also, I think our tarmac airfield is sufficient for our air capacities, we don't need to invest in another airfield.

With these in mind, I think the best purchases would be:

Small arms:

>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 6$
>>Buy modern French small arms for one company: 5$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$

Also,

>Reorganize our armor into a dedicated armor company rather than attached to a battalion in order to keep it mobile and able to respond to the T34's

and

>Create a HMG support company with our current reserves of .50's and sten guns and attach it to a battalion without a support company.
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>>4332916
Supporting this
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>>4332916
I like this.
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>>4332916
+1
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>>4332916
Support
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>>4332916
Ill support this
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>>4332916
+1
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>>4332916

Ok, this obviously wins. In about 12/14 hours I will update by posting the readout.
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We should put a hidden observation post on the tip western coastal mountains, and a proper lighthouse behind it on the other peninsula.
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>>4333418
I would guess that the purpose of the lighthouse would be to provide a reason why there would be people coming and going to the middle of nowhere, but couldn't we just have the observation post inside the lighthouse?

I mean, it isn't like the lighthouse needs to be open to the public or anything.
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>>4333766
To catch any people trying to sneak by the lighthouse before they reach it, and to provide redundancy.

You'd be surprised how lazy, uncaring people can be like or smugglers, or submarine crews if they have short operating ranges or need to come up for air frequently, not paranoid enough, etc.

We can just swap the locations tho, Lighthouse in front, hidden Observation in the back.
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>>4333766
Light house is an observation post, its just more obvious, and official. We can put radios or have couriers at both to relay information.
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While I update the table, roll two of 6 for the donation to PRS.
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Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4334311
Low
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4334311
Lower
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>>4334314
Kek
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>>4334317

The PRS has acquired a cache of 100 more outdated guns, combining two companies and two battalions, they have assembled a Regiment in Obregan (600 men, symbol "III").
It has no support units as of now but it is a threatening development as the number of men can easily overrun companies and battalions that have sustained casualties.
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Took the liberty of not detaching the tank units into a independent company, as I suggest getting some trucks or halftracks to have some infantry rolling with them to increase efficiency before that.
The Browining guns were sent to the AT element of 1st Battalion as they are nothing more than a support company already as those 6pdrs wont do too much if the T-34's keep their distance. Plus it beefs up the defense of Hill 135
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Three rolls of 6 for the events of 1958
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4334357

>Took the liberty of not detaching the tank units into a independent company, as I suggest getting some trucks or halftracks to have some infantry rolling with them to increase efficiency before that.

?
We have 10 in storage, use them if you need to.

Also, the reds are allowed to have a company of tanks without infantry support but we aren't?
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Rolled 67 (1d100)

>>4334357
Like the bro above said we actually have 8 hmgs in storage. And 10 trucks. Cant we just attach those 10 trucks to the brigade with tanks and make them motorized? Or however many trucks are necessary.

What were we stockpiling the trucks for anyway? A supply bonus?
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>>4334365
You can instantly detach them day 1 if something happens, no worries. Reds got it, but it is not deployed near the border for the same reason. With the current tech it is not hard to swarm and outflank a tank formation if it is not on the move.
And the trucks in storage I did not touch as earlier votes wanted them to remain as passive supply boost.
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4334371
Fucking idiot I rolled a d100
>>4334357
New roll
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4334357
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>>4334373
Ok but we voted to detach them now. It is a bad thing if we are repositioning day 1 of a fight, especially if units can't exist in the same tile. I'd rather be able to equip the battalion with other support weapons and have tanks ready to go.
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>>4334373
Also, what do you mean it isn't hard to swarm and outflank a tank formation? If they see a flank occurring they literally just need to reverse and completely avoid danger. The only way we were able to surround them last time was with paratroopers and now they have AA guns.
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>>4334380
Yeah but people also voted for the trucks to stay in logistics, and it's obviously not a good idea to just detach the tanks now, we could easily forget about them and get caught up in another budget project. So the QM has a dilemma- the players want to do something stupid that if pointed out they'd probably agree is stupid. So he figures to just not do anything and point out the mistake.
>>4334389
>if they see a flank occuring
yeah and tank commanders are obviously the eye of fucking sauron who can spot camouflaged infantry movements hundreds of meters away in any terrain.
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>>4334392
>not a good idea
Subjective and besides the point, we already voted for it to happen. Also, keeping expensive vehicles expressly bought for the purpose of countering the T34's stationary and useless seems far more stupid than allowing them to do their jobs at all even without infantry support (which we can integrate later if it upsets you so much that it's absent)

Also, we had the argument before of whether to detach the tanks and enough people changed vote to support detachment to gain a majority right before QM called the vote in favor of not detaching. So no, I do not think the players would disagree with this.

>tanks can't see camouflaged infantry
Sneaking didn't work in the middle of the fucking night against THREE armored cars, why would it work against 12 tanks with a support company attached?
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>>4334365
>>4334375
The DRS and the PRS both rolled 6s, now this is exciting
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>>4334398
>Sneaking didn't work in the middle of the fucking night against THREE armored cars

They had infantry with them, that is precisely why. But even that did not save them from running into our mountaineers while retreating.

Anyways, since its not hard, just took extra few mins. Tanks are detached, SMG infantry and five trucks were allocated to them to form the unit.
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Roll outcome in a min
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>>4334411
Thank you
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>>4334398
Fair point, the vote was to detach. I didn't know, apparently neither did the QM know, that the trucks had been wanted in a new unit with the tanks. This caused the dilemma.
But besides that, operationalizing a tank unit without infantry support is still a bad idea. The mountain brigade weren't able to sneak because dice. Maybe the QM put the DC where it was because those cars had been on recon duty for the entirety of the war, rather than engaging the enemy as a major tank unit would be doing.
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Following our election interference, the liberal party secures office to the surprise of pretty much everyone. The previous president was smeared enough for not doing enough in his third … anti-constitutional term, the campaign extended to smearing the breakaway conservative party too.
With our help, swapping some bags of votes and intimidating a figure or two, we removed the previous administration completely.

Before the liberal president and his administration have time to prepare a proper policy program, we already had them by the balls. Our support has earned us a hefty increase in the defense budget.
(From roll of 6, budget +7$)

The PRS and their struggles in agriculture production has led to them breaking records in output and even exporting some of it for extra cash. The fact that some limited private producing by the citizens also played into their favor and the great harvest did boost morale and helped wash away the sour taste previous years left.
(From roll of 6, PRS economy recovers, small budget boost)

Tensions remain at the same level. The new administration avoids provoking the north like the previous one did constantly and the PRS prefers to not make things complicated while they are doing well internally.
(From roll of 5)
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not looking good bros
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Procurement list for 1959:
Current defense budget index value: 27$

Ammunition:
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (.50 BMG, Bazooka rockets and large ordinance): 5$
>Buy HVAR rockets to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 4$
>Buy 250lb (~100kg) bombs to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 3$

Small arms:
>Convert our BREN guns to the now widely used 7.62x51mm: 7$ (price includes buying up a decent ammo stockpile)
>Buy modern British small arms (L1A1/Bren L4)for one company: 8$
>Buy modern British small arms for one battalion: 22$
>Buy French small arms (MAS-49/FM24)for one company: 6$
>Buy French small arms for one battalion: 15$
>Buy a small batch of modern West German small arms (G3/MG3) for trial: 4$
>Buy a small batch of modern American small arms (AR-10/M60) for trial: 4$
>Buy ex-British “ENERGA” rifle launched AT grenades for the Enfield rifles (can work with FAL/L1A1 rifles too) for a battalion: 6$
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 6$
>Buy Swedish “Carl Gustav” anti tank weapons for two companies: 11$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
>Buy Swedish 40mm Bofors AA guns: 7$
>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers: 13$
>Buy American M114 (155mm) howitzers: 18$
>Buy 6 British 17-pdr (76mm) AT guns to upgrade our AT unit: 14$

Transport Vehicles:
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 10$
>Buy 5 French AMX-VTT armored personnel carriers, unarmed, can order weapons separately for mounting: 15$

Combat Vehicles:
>Buy three French modern “Panhard EBR” armored cars, armed with a 75mm gun and one 7.5mm machinegun: 12$
>Buy three American M24 “Chaffee” light tanks, armed with a 75mm gun and two M2 50. Machine guns: 12$
>Buy three American M18 “Hellcat” tank destroyers, armed with a long 76mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 15$
>Buy three French AMX-13 new light tanks, armed with long autoloaded 75mm gun and a 7.5mm machinegun: 19$
>Buy three British Comet medium tanks, armed with 77mm HV gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 19$
>Buy three American M36 “Jackson” tank destroyers, armed with a 90mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 21$
>Buy three new British “Charioteer” medium tanks, armed with 84mm gun and a 30. Cal machine gun: 24$
>Buy three American new M47 “Patton II” tanks, armed with a 90mm gun and two M2 machine guns: 32$ (payment plan 2x16$)

>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 6$
>Buy an American “PC-451” gunboat, armed with one 75mm gun and 4x20mm Oerlikon guns: 7$
>Buy two modern British “Dark” motor torpedo boats, armed with a 40mm Bofors gun and 4 torpedoes: 12$

Special projects:
>Six concrete pillboxes: 6$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan so Spitfires and Texans can remain in the combat zone longer: 4$
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And yeah, its time consider what is going to be replacing our service rifle soon.
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>>4334583
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (.50 BMG, Bazooka rockets and large ordinance): 5$
>Buy 250lb (~100kg) bombs to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 3$
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy French small arms for one battalion: 15$

I'm thinking we need more men, more trucks to move stuff around quickly. More men since the PRS is looking like their going to rush us with each passing year. We don't really need to changed our ammo, as they're using outdated weapons but they have the numbers. I wanted to buy a dirt airfield track, but 1$ short, the bombs will be fun to drop on tanks and a army.
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>>4334583
>Buy modern British small arms for one battalion. 22$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan 4$
>Save the remaining dollar for next year (can we do that, or will the politicians take it?)
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>>4334605
>(can we do that, or will the politicians take it?

If it was the previous administration, maybe it'd go into someone's real estate. Considering we got "our guys" in office by the balls, we can safely keep it.
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>>4334601
Supporting this.

We need more / upgraded arty next time
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>>4334605
going with this
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>>4334601
I agree that we need to improve our logistics, in consideration of the numbers that the PRS is looking to field, and I agree in your assessment that the next war will presumably be defensive.

But as we have committed to developing air superiority, so it seems to me that a second airstrip is more important to our war efforts than 5 additional trucks. And as far as the weapons are concerned, I am of the opinion that we are going to need to stop buying weapons that are going to be obsolete in a few years. L1A1's will be effective enough to last us the rest of cold war, assuming that the Cold War and the Soviet union will dissolve in 92, which considering how historical this quest has been seems likely. If we incrementally modernize, we we ultimately spend more time and waste more turns then if we simply "rip the band-aid off" and accept the upfront costs.

I dunno. If you, or someone else put that exact same list up in the next few turns, assuming no major changes, then I'd vote for it, even without the airfield. But right now, we need better guns, and we definitely need the airfield.
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>>4334601
This
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>>4334627
>assuming that the Cold War and the Soviet union will dissolve in 92, which considering how historical this quest has been seems likely

With the unintended stagnation the PRS was hit with in 50's and the early conflict we won (praise RNJesus)... plus the favorable outcome of the election, if enough support is present from Anons, we can strike first and eliminate them, leading to quest victory before 1991. On the other hand they can resume being a "rogue state" like Cuba up till the present, re-aligning themselves with China after the collapse of the USSR.

TLDR; You may try your chances now, before the Vietnam bullshit starts and while the USSR has no allies in West Africa.
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>>4334601
Support
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>>4334605
I'd rather have the trucks, but I'll support this, the lack of a common caliber for logistics is annoying me to no end, and I planned to have the french guns converted to 7.62 later if we could.
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>>4334601
+1
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>>4334601
This got the most votes, here it is.

Now three rolls of 6 for the PRS, and you can specify where you want the new battalion to be deployed.
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Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>4334812
Our budget increases to 36$ in 1960 after paying off for our shit. Maybe we could get another 4$ if we roll well.

We could modernize, get that airfield and other shit next turn.
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4334812
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Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4334812
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>>4334814
>>4334627
>>4334605
>we need a new dirt airfield
Why though?
We have a total of 9 planes, 4 of which are jets, and we already have a tarmac airfield. A new airfield seems like a pointless expenditure of money.

IMO, we have enough men to fill the lines (perhaps too many), so we should look to create a regiment to match theirs, but that's awkward because it seems like every unit uses different weapons. So, we should look to standardize our infantry equipment for convenience of ammo, and so we can form a regiment.
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>>4334583
>>4334812
Hey QM, I know it's not really on the agenda right now, just curious, but why aren't we able to get planes right now?
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>>4334833
Our suppliers (Britain, France) ain't dealing because reasons. Also no more discount means planes are expensive again.
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>>4335048
but weren't the jets from the US?
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>>4334833
Because the aircraft list requires updating as only the fling boat was left, and the post exceeded charactrer limit so i removed it alltogether.

Anyways, excuse the long absense, was not home, now I need some sleep so I dont cake up something in the table from the rolls.
Will update with the PRS gains and map in 10/12 or so hours.
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>>4335076
Ye, but it was expensive so most of the players don't choose to buy them. Or that's what I gathered from previous posts.
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Our agent has sadly notified us he is forced to “resign” and leave the PRS. Over the years, he was rather careless and climbed the ladder in their military. This led to him meeting various foreign officers, including soviet ones, some of which have experience dating to the Spanish civil war that he is using for cover.

With the growing possibility of interception of communications or his cover being blown, he fled the PRS and ended his nearly ten year long career. His farewell message contained a report on the acquisition of BM-13 rocket artillery launchers and a few BTR-40’s which are actually the first piece of post-WW2 era equipment they have received. The APC’s are deployed with their tank unit, while the rocket launchers are currently in reserve, but it’s important to note they are motorized and can be deployed fast.
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Well, intell finally rolled a 1. Since the rolls on it were out-fucking-standing for a long time, decided to not kill off our agent and have him safely leave, while also giving one last report equal to a roll of 3.

The new Battalion is deployed west of Corazol. You can relocate any unit you want to anywhere in peacetime too, just a reminder if you dont like the placement.

Three rolls of 6 for 1959
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Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4336023
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Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4336023
God bless that Spaniard, he has done well
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4336023
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>>4336023
Ok y'all, I've got a plan to get us a regiment.

A Regiment Requires 600 Men

Currently, we have 250 soldiers of the squad model: 1xMAT-49 2xM24/29 7/MAS-49

If we move the MAT-49's from 2nd Company to 3rd Company to replace 1xM24/29 per squad, and replace 2nd's MAT's with Stens in Storage, we bring our Number to 300 men.

If we buy 1 Battalion (200 men) and 2 Companies (50 men each x 2 = 100) worth of modern french weapons, we reach 600 men worth of equipment, and we can form our regiment.
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>>4336023
Give that guy a good retirement package.
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>>4336070
How about this, our companies and Battalions are using a mix-match of guns. Battalions 2nd, 3rd, and 4th are using a mix-match of different ammo types. Same story with companies 1 and 2.

How about we get our weapon situation in order, so either a battalion or a company either uses french or British guns.

Looking at our storage we have 60 MAS-36, 15 MAS-49, and 30 Sten not being used. We could take 5th company 1xMAT-49 out and replace it with 1xMAS-49 so it's left with 8xMAS-49 and 2xM24/29.

Weapons are all over the place that you can move things around and get either British or french weapon battalions and companies. Since we have weapons in storage could use it to make more companies, keep as backups, or just use them to help fix the weapon situation.
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The liberal party’s mandate does not start very promising, nothing of great value being done. The positive side effect is that if they don’t touch anything, they can’t break anything. Sure, the previous administration’s infrastructure plan stalls … but the money for it “magically” appears in our ministry’s allowance. Same applies for their foreign policy, maybe we can “give them a push” in a certain direction.
(From rol of 3, +3$ to budget)

The north is also not doing anything of notice. They keep trying to grow their agricultural sector, now with exotic cultures for export, but we will see how this will turn out in the future.
(From roll of 3, no bonus/debuff for PRS)

With the current administrations on both sides and a relatively calm international situation … if we are not counting the Cuban revolution, the tensions remain unchanged at 45%.
(From roll of 6)

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>>4336070
>>4336102

The most guns we have deployed are British, if you want me to fiddle a bit and assemble a regiment before the procurement list, no problem. That way if some unit becomes undergunned from the shuffling of ordinance, it can be insta-fixed in the procurement stage.
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>>4336119
Do that please, we can settle some problems before they even start.

Also the payment plan is done. So we'll get our 7$ back.
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>>4336126
No, this year is the last payment, adjusted budget will be 30$.
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Oh, well, it fits nicely with a 1xMAT49/2xBren/7xEnfields

Just rearmed some support personnel with stored Stens to move the MAT smgs, the Brit guns all came from the combining of 2nd/3rd/4th battalion so there is no shortage anywhere ... except in our line south of Corazol, but if that is not fixed with new units or explicit orders, I'll send 5th Bat. and some companies to plug it.

Equipment list next
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>>4336167
can we get a railroad to boost economy and logistic bonus?
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Procurement list for 1960:
Current defense budget index value: 30$

Ammunition:
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (Bazooka rockets and large ordinance): 3$
>Buy HVAR rockets to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 4$
>Buy 250lb (~100kg) bombs to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 3$

Small arms:
>Convert our BREN guns to the now widely used 7.62x51mm: 7$ (price includes buying up a decent ammo stockpile)
>Buy modern British small arms for one company: 8$
>Buy modern British small arms for one battalion: 22$
>Buy French small arms for one company: 6$
>Buy French small arms for one battalion: 15$
>Buy a small batch of modern West German small arms for trial: 4$
>Buy a small batch of modern American small arms for trial: 4$
>Buy ex-British “ENERGA” rifle launched AT grenades for the Enfield rifles (can work with FAL/L1A1 rifles too) for a battalion: 6$
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 6$
>Buy Swedish “Carl Gustav” anti tank weapons for two companies: 12$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
>Buy Swedish 40mm Bofors AA guns: 6$
>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers: 12$
>Buy American M114 (155mm) howitzers: 17$
>Buy 6 British L6 BAT recoilless guns to upgrade our AT unit: 24$

Transport Vehicles:
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 8$
>Buy 5 French AMX-VTT armored personnel carriers, unarmed, can order weapons separately for mounting: 15$

Combat Vehicles:
>Buy three French modern “Panhard EBR” armored cars, armed with a 75mm gun and one 7.5mm machinegun: 11$
>Buy three American M24 “Chaffee” light tanks, armed with a 75mm gun and two M2 50. Machine guns: 11$
>Buy three American M18 “Hellcat” tank destroyers, armed with a long 76mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 14$
>Buy three French AMX-13 new light tanks, armed with long autoloaded 75mm gun and a 7.5mm machinegun: 18$
>Buy three British Comet medium tanks, armed with 77mm HV gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 18$
>Buy three American M36 “Jackson” tank destroyers, armed with a 90mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 19$
>Buy three new British “Charioteer” medium tanks, armed with 84mm gun and a 30. Cal machine gun: 22$
>Buy three American new M47 “Patton II” tanks, armed with a 90mm gun and two M2 machine guns: 32$ (payment plan 2x16$)

>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 6$
>Buy an American “PC-451” gunboat, armed with one 75mm gun and 4x20mm Oerlikon guns: 6$
>Buy two modern British “Dark” motor torpedo boats, armed with a 40mm Bofors gun and 4 torpedoes: 12$

>Buy three new French CM.170 “Magister” jet trainer planes, can be modified to carry ordinance: 16$

Special projects:
>Six concrete pillboxes: 6$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
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BREN guns to 7.62x52mm
We only have 140 guns of them, so I don't think it's worth it. We have Lee Enfield in the field that also uses .303 like the Bren guns use.
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>>4336227
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (Bazooka rockets and large ordinance): 3$
>Buy 250lb (~100kg) bombs to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 3$
>Buy French small arms for one battalion: 15$
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 6$
>Buy 3 M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 3$
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>>4336236
Support
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>>4336227
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (Bazooka rockets and large ordinance): 3$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
>Buy French small arms for one battalion: 15$
We got bombs and rockets for our F-84G's already.

QM can use use the 8$ remaining dollars to get some foreign help and get our infrastructure running? Like a railroad to get build.
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>>4336248

I figured railroads wont be a thing since the island is not exactly giant ...
But hey, expanding the road system can be done which will serve the same purpose.
Since the money is here already, I advise spending it, we can poiltely ask the politicians to do the proejct without taking too much away from our budget.

But this gives me an idea for a new special project for next year...
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>>4336257
Alright. Let me change some things

>>4336227
>Buy 2 M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 2$
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (Bazooka rockets and large ordinance): 3$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
>Buy French small arms for one company: 6$
>Buy French small arms for one battalion: 15$

Guns for more units. And ammo for them. Dirt airfield so Spitfires and Texans can remain in the combat zone longer.
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>>4336272
Why buy french guns when they would be out of caliber to 7.62?
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>>4336227
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (Bazooka rockets and large ordinance): 3$
>Buy HVAR rockets to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 4$
>Buy 250lb (~100kg) bombs to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 3$
>Convert our BREN guns to the now widely used 7.62x51mm: 7$ (price includes buying up a decent ammo stockpile)
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 6$
>Buy 2 M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 2$

i think this is all we need right now, fixes the ammo issue, stuff for our jets and airfield tracks. MGs and the bazookas are always good. might wanna buy tanks next turn
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>>4336287
actually missed 1$, make that

>Buy 3 M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 3$

instead
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>>4336236
+1, next turn we should get more comet tanks to upgun our tank company
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>>4336227
>Buy French small arms for one battalion: 15$
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (Bazooka rockets and large ordinance): 3$
>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers: 12$
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So uh, which one do I go with???
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>>4336855

This one >>4336236
Has the most votes it seems
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>>4336287
+1
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This one will be it >>4336236

Now sorry to disappoint but quest continues Sunday evening euro time as on the 4th ima be doing innawoods shit. Will likely open a new thread when im back.
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>>4336236
Finally some good choices
Thank you.
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>>4336287
Support because of ammo, airfield, and stocking our limited heavy ordnance ammo
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>>4336227
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
>Six concrete pillboxes: 6$
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy Swedish “Carl Gustav” anti tank weapons for two companies: 12$
>Save the two remaining dollars

A good intrastructure and logistics department will be proven useful in case of a prolonged war
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>>4338285
I dont think we can save money as with many government budget we dont use we lose it
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>>4336883
Give me the cum OP. It's Monday in Euroland, unless you got maul by a bear.
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>>4341596
Nah man, just saw bear poop.
Sorry about that, was tired as fuck to the point I could not move very well. Who would have known three months of sitting at home takes you out of shape...

Anyways, im grabbing a cup of coffee and sitting down to do the report.
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>>4341658
This /k/ommander going innawoods and not eating the bear's shit. How are you going to get stronger if you don't eat the shit of more powerful beings.
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>>4336236
Here it goes, going to remove the "-9" from the F-84 payments as they are now done.

Three rolls of 6 for the PRS acquisition.

>>4341698
I am slav, I am confident I can already beat the shit out of one so it is considered equal, not stronger.
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Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4341704
Slavs could fight bears, I seen it many times.
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Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>4341704
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4341704
natural 1
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>>4341707
>>4341711
>>4341714

From what we could gather the PRS have modernized their shock company with the now widespread RPD machine guns and AK-47 assault rifles. The weapons they had before were used to raise another company in the border area.
According to photographs we have acquired, they have no anti tank weapons as of now.
Other things the north got include about a dozen trucks that appear to be paired with the artillery company.
(From intell roll of 5)

Three rolls of 6 for 1960 events
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4341733
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Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4341733
good intel result
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Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4341733
War
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>>4341737
>>4341740
>>4341755

While the liberal administration is mostly busy with doing judicial reforms and not paying much attention to the already stable economy, our leverage over them secures us a hefty increase in the defense budget for the next year.
(From roll of 6, budget +7$)

The north on the other hand got caught in the political firefight between the Chinese and Soviet communists. They were trying to maintain good relations with both sides, but that did not work out as the USSR now demands they cut ties with China, while the Chinese demand the same.
While the north decides which side they will take (likely the USSR one), their options to acquire weapons will be severely reduced to countries like Yugoslavia, North Vietnam and North Korea.
(From roll of 2 for the PRS)

The combination of our increase in the defense budget and the complicated foreign policy choices the PRS is forced to make, result in some force demonstrations from the north in the form of live fire exercises of their artillery and tanks near the border. That is clearly a provocation act that we in the ministry won’t buy, but our civilian press and the low level politicians went for the bait dragging hook, line and sinker.
(From roll of 2, Tension +20% to 65%)
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>>4341776
>civilian press
Those dam trouble-makers!

I wonder with our new ‘shadow-government’ status, if we can invest more of our budget in the wider economy?

We could buy companies or start our own radio station - the goal would be to become like the military in Egypt or Pakistan, the ‘strong’ bulwark which keeps a ‘Democratic’ country from electing the wrong people
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>>4341776
>But this gives me an idea for a new special project for next year...
I wonder what the new projects will be. Could be useful if we could just make sure the budget is spent on things to improve the county.
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>>4341786
We deep state naow!
Sure, so long as we stay meritocratic, and keep "National Security" in our job description.
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List is getting big, gonna be two posts now due to character limit.

Procurement list for 1961:
Current defense budget index value: 46$

Ammunition:
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (tank shells): 3$
>Buy HVAR rockets to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 4$
>Buy 250lb (~100kg) bombs to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 3$

Small arms:
>Convert our BREN guns to the now widely used 7.62x51mm: 7$ (price includes buying up a decent ammo stockpile)
>Buy modern British small arms for one company: 8$
>Buy modern British small arms for one battalion: 22$
>Buy French small arms for one company: 6$
>Buy French small arms for one battalion: 15$
>Buy a small batch of modern West German small arms for trial: 4$
>Buy a small batch of modern American small arms for trial: 4$
>Buy ex-British “ENERGA” rifle launched AT grenades for the Enfield rifles (can work with FAL/L1A1 rifles too) for a battalion: 6$
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 5$
>Buy Swedish “Carl Gustav” anti tank weapons for two companies: 12$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
>Buy Swedish 40mm Bofors AA guns: 6$
>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers: 12$
>Buy American M114 (155mm) howitzers: 16$
>Buy 6 British L6 BAT recoilless guns to upgrade our AT unit: 24$

Transport Vehicles:
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 7$
>Buy 5 French AMX-VTT armored personnel carriers, unarmed, can order weapons separately for mounting: 15$
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Combat Vehicles:
>Buy three French modern “Panhard EBR” armored cars, armed with a 75mm gun and one 7.5mm machinegun: 11$
>Buy three new American M41 “Walker Bulldog” light tanks, armed with a long 75mm gun and a M2 50. Machine gun: 16$
>Buy three French AMX-13 new light tanks, armed with long autoloaded 75mm gun and a 7.5mm machinegun: 18$
>Buy three British Comet medium tanks, armed with 77mm HV gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 17$
>Buy three American M36 “Jackson” tank destroyers, armed with a 90mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 18$
>Buy three American new M47 “Patton II” tanks, armed with a 90mm gun and two M2 machine guns: 31$
>Buy three new British “Centurion Mk3” medium tanks, armed with 84mm gun and a 30. Cal machine gun: 33$

>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 5$
>Buy an American “PC-451” gunboat, armed with one 75mm gun and 4x20mm Oerlikon guns: 6$
>Buy an American “LCI(L)” infantry landing craft, able to ferry two companies at once: 8$
>Buy three light Italian motor gun boats, armed with 40mm Bofors guns: 11$
>Buy two modern British “Dark” motor torpedo boats, armed with a 40mm Bofors gun and 4 torpedoes: 12$

>Buy a French “Alouette II” light scout helicopter, unarmed, can be fitted with weapons later: 5$
>Buy three new French CM.170 “Magister” jet trainer planes, can be modified to carry ordinance: 15$
>Buy four more American F-84G “Thunderjet” jet fighter-bombers: 34$

Special projects:
>Six concrete pillboxes: 6$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
>Underground ammo depots in the Obregan fortified area: 4$
>Radar station in Obregan: 5$
>Start up an ammo manufacturing shop: 8$
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Note: Ammo manufacturing starts with the simplest and cheapest 9x19mm round.
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>>4341823
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (tank shells): 3$
>Underground ammo depots in the Obregan fortified area: 4$
>Radar station in Obregan: 5$
>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 5$
>Buy Swedish 40mm Bofors AA guns: 6$
>Start up an ammo manufacturing shop: 8$
>Buy three new French CM.170 “Magister” jet trainer planes, can be modified to carry ordinance: 15$

Boats so we have more sea forces around.
AA Guns so we have something when they get Air, or use it to do antipersonnel
Jet Trainer planes to increase our air-force skills, and drop bombs.
Ammo manufacturing as will be useful in the future once we upgrade. And Sten and MAS49 use 9x19mm round accounts for 410 guns. So it has it uses now.
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>>4341842
+1
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>>4341818
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (tank shells): 3$
>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 7$
>Buy French small arms for one battalion: 15$
>Buy American M114 (155mm) howitzers: 16$
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
>Start up an ammo manufacturing shop: 8$

Strong utility set-up.

We abuse the fact that they have limited AT and we have plentiful M2’s to start investing in mechanised units which can also tow our stronger arty.

Local ammo manufacturing will be great, means we will have more political sway (via providing jobs directly) and will provide cheaper ammo in the long run

Next year we should focus more on Air Force / armoured units to keep pushing our advantages there.

>>4341842
Disagree with the boats, AA and radar. The commies haven’t invested in any of these - so you’re wasting money counters to units that they don’t have, imo
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>>4341863
This but next year we to get those brens upgraded or replaced soon
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>>4341823
>Six concrete pillboxes: 6$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
>Underground ammo depots in the Obregan fortified area: 4$
>Radar station in Obregan: 5$
>Start up an ammo manufacturing shop: 8$
>Convert our BREN guns to the now widely used 7.62x51mm: 7$ (price includes buying up a decent ammo stockpile)
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (tank shells): 3$
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (tank shells): 3$
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy 2 M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 2$

Where did all the cheap British artillery go?
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>>4341947
scrapped or sold I would assume
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Whatever choices get picked, war is coming boys. They got them AK-47 now, with RPD machine guns. Those fire a big boi round, and are better than what they had before.

I kind of just want to go full howitzer use all our cash and bomb them to hell. Maybe next turn
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>>4341953
This stuff tends to get stored in depots, or sold, I'd expect them to go for cheap.

Where is all the cheap ww2 surplus?
Prices should drop and we start arms dealing like Nicolas Cage.
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>>4341863
Support
Next year we should invest into that Bren upgrade and also getting the trial weaponry from West Germany
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>>4341863
Support
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>>4341863
Support, agree that we should focus on Vehicles next round.
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>>4342534
Also, we should be using our trainer planes to train our pilots
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>>4342537
I assumed that was happening already. We have actual planes now so the trainers go back to their normal role.
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>>4342560
Well if you look at the Air Wing experience at
>>4341704
you will notice only the trainer planes have experience, and that is because they participated in combat, so it does not look like the trainer planes are being used for training.
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>>4342572
You're right, we have got to start training those pilots. We will be super reliant on them when the war starts up again.
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>>4342572
>you will notice only the trainer planes have experience, and that is because they participated in combat

That is purely overlooking on my part, there are surely enough flying hours by now to have them on a good level of training and will correct it the next report ... in 10 or so hours.
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>>4342855
oh sweet
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>>4342855
@QM, what level of communications does our military have?

Platoon based radios? Company level? Battalion level? So tank commanders each have a radio set?

It might be worth investing in better radios / radio towers next year. Plus some level of encryption.
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>>4342855
Outstanding. Depending on the report we should consider cycling out the pilots on the fighters so they all get trained.
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>>4342976
Since I am not a great expert in radioshit, decided to not bother with that aspect so my head wont blow up and decided to count it as if every squad has its own even though it might be sligtly (very) unauthentic at this time period.

>>4341961
>Where is all the cheap ww2 surplus?

We've been buying up from it for the last uuh, 14 years? Some is donated to NATO members, some is indeed scrapped, others are bought by other countries that are economical powerhouses compared to us, such as Paraguay. Also depends if something is replaced in service, notice halftracks getting cheaper over the 1960 introduction of M113. Plus its time to crack open the shiny new stuff, we cant drag a 1940's army into into the 70's ... right (actively pretends South America was not exactly that)?
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>>4341863

Here it is, new artillery unit received Sten guns from the stockpile for self defense and was attached to 2nd Battalion.
To make things more convincing, took some bombs and rockets for the F-84's out the stockpile to simulate training of the pilots over time, now they are all trained.
Problem is that the ammo manufacture thing goes 5$ over the budget so I will just subtract the 3 invested and drop its price to 5$ for the next year.

Three rolls of 6 for the PRS gets.
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>>4343796
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>>4343796
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>>4343796
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>>4343796
So lame, they get to have free stuff based on rolls, while we gotta manage everything and get rolls.
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Guess this year we're going to need those counters. I wanted to get this year.
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>>4343810
Rolls only decide what equipment they get from 12 options divided in two brackets, higher number does not mean they get better stuff and vice-versa. This is so I do not have to railroad their army development.
If you really dont want that, I can do it myself so only the intelligence roll remains.

>>4343831
You mean map?
Yeah sure, map is coming give me 30 minutes, in the meantime roll four dices of 6 for events of 1961.
(Yes, this time 4 for events since thats one hell of a history packed year)
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>>4343984
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>>4343984
Nah. It was before you explained that higher rolls doesn't mean better equipment. I made that post, since my buy list had radar and AA guns. Which are not needed since the PRS doesn't have planes, but with the rolls it could make it needed.

Good roll for us tho. That's a big plus
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Thanks to some defectors from the PRS that managed to escape via the sea, we have acquired the valuable information that the Schnellboats they had are no longer serviceable due to the lack of parts for maintenance, as the factory was probably bombed to shit sometime in 1945 or dismantled later.

And the information keeps flowing from those defectors. Following the complicated foreign policy situation the PRS got itself into, they looked to Yugoslavia to acquire arms. Aldo the Balkan communists can not provide them with heavy equipment such as vehicles (yet), their small arms industry is miles ahead in terms of quality when compared to the Soviet ones that focus on numbers.
The tight budget of the PRS only allowed for 8 60mm light mortars that were assembled in a support company and attached to the regiment they have in Obregan, and some M53 Sarac machine guns … which are literally a Zastava copy of the German MG42. The amount they have acquired is around 50, maybe up to 70 at best. And from what we heard from the trustworthy defectors, they are all concentrated in the said 1st Regiment in Obregan. Those upgrades transform the unit from a glorified oversized cannon fodder to something we should really look out for.

(From perfect intell roll of 6)
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>>4343984
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>>4343997
>50 - 70 machine guns and 8 mortars
Isn't that a ton? We get MG's at a rate of $1 per, and we have a much larger budget than they do, and they just got more than our budget's worth of Machine Guns and a company of mortars to boot?
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>>4344063
Light machine guns for squad use =/= heavy M2 Browning guns that need a 4 man team to operate.

Those expenditures were about ~25/30$ equivalent as those mortars are pretty light.
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>>4343796
By my count the ammo manufacture is only $4 over budget.

tank ammo $ 3
half tracks $ 7
battalion $15
arty $16
.50 MG $ 1
+ shop $ 8
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$50 - $46(budget) = $4 over budget
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>>4344068
Hey QM, how many troops can a halftrack carry?
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>>4344115
A squad, aka 10 people. It is averaged out to 10 for all kinds of tucks, APC, IFV's for ease of keeping up with all the numbers.

I should really get to writing the 1961 stuff, but I am stuck with a project I need to finish.
And yes you are right about the calculations, probably counted the MG twice by accident.
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At this point the ruling liberals are our puppet party, making sure the intelligence reports that clearly state we outnumber and outgun the PRS in everything (except tanks) do not leak and reach the press. This means that no one is protesting our massive budget, that grew a little bit this year too.
The administration itself is not up to much when it comes to development, the previous president’s infrastructure plan is forgotten and nothing else is being built.
(From roll of 5, budget +4$)

The PRS finally chose a side and cut off ties with the People’s Republic of China for the sake of repairing the strained relations with the Soviet Union. While this will return their access to soviet made equipment, they may be forced to cut off Yugoslavia too later on.
(From roll of 5)

The political situation in Africa is turning upside down really fast. Newly independent Guinea rapidly leans left towards the Soviet Union and Congo is in disarray. Mauritania also voices its support for the eastern bloc, this suddenly adds the possibility of African or even Soviet forces landing fast to support the PRS in an eventual (more like inevitable) conflict.

France, unfortunately plays along. With its recent defeat in Indochina and problems in Algeria, they inform us that they likely will not be supporting us from day one of war like the last time.
(From roll of 1, due to France being our main small arms supplier they do not straight out declare they will not support us)

With the African chaos and the failed American backed coup in Cuba, the international situation is hot enough for us and the PRS to lay low to avoid further complications.
(Tension -5% to 60%)
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>>4344442
We need to continue that infrastructure project.
Can we tell Puppet President to continue it?
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Procurement list for 1962:
Current defense budget index value: 50$

Ammunition:
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (155mm shells): 3$
>Buy HVAR rockets to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 4$
>Buy 250lb (~100kg) bombs to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 3$

Small arms:
>Convert our BREN guns to the now widely used 7.62x51mm: 7$ (price includes buying up a decent ammo stockpile)
>Buy modern British small arms for one company: 8$
>Buy modern British small arms for one battalion: 22$
>Buy French small arms for one company: 6$
>Buy French small arms for one battalion: 15$
>Buy a batch of 200 semi-auto MAS-49 rifles to phase out the bolt action MAS-36: 16$
>Buy a small batch of modern West German small arms for trial: 4$
>Buy a small batch of modern American small arms for trial: 4$
>Buy ex-British “ENERGA” rifle launched AT grenades for the Enfield rifles (can work with FAL/L1A1 rifles too) for a battalion: 6$
>Buy American M20 “Super Bazookas” anti tank weapons for two companies: 4$
>Buy Swedish “Carl Gustav” anti tank weapons for two companies: 12$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
>Buy Swedish 40mm Bofors AA guns: 6$
>Buy American M101 (105mm) howitzers: 12$
>Buy American M114 (155mm) howitzers: 16$
>Buy 6 British L6 BAT (120mm) recoilless guns to upgrade our AT unit: 18$
>Buy 6 American M40 106mm recoilless guns to upgrade our AT unit: 20$

Transport Vehicles:
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy 5 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 7$
>Buy 5 French AMX-VTT armored personnel carriers, unarmed, can order weapons separately for mounting: 15$
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Combat Vehicles:
>Buy three French modern “Panhard EBR” armored cars, armed with a 75mm gun and one 7.5mm machinegun: 11$
>Buy three new American M41 “Walker Bulldog” light tanks, armed with a long 75mm gun and a M2 50. Machine gun: 16$
>Buy three British Comet medium tanks, armed with 77mm HV gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 17$
>Buy three French AMX-13 new light tanks, armed with long autoloaded 75mm gun and a 7.5mm machinegun: 18$
>Buy three American M36 “Jackson” tank destroyers, armed with a 90mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 18$
>Buy three American M41 “Gorilla” self propelled guns, armed with the 155mm pieces we already have in service: 24$
>Buy three American new M48 “Patton III” tanks, armed with a 90mm gun and two M2 machine guns: 33$
>Buy three new British “Centurion Mk3” medium tanks, armed with 84mm gun and a 30. Cal machine gun: 33$

>Buy two American “Elco” motor torpedo boats, armed with two .50 caliber M2 machine guns and 2 torpedoes: 5$
>Buy an American “PC-451” gunboat, armed with one 75mm gun and 4x20mm Oerlikon guns: 6$
>Buy an American “LCI(L)” infantry landing craft, able to ferry two companies at once: 8$
>Buy three light Italian motor gun boats, armed with 40mm Bofors guns: 11$
>Buy two modern British “Dark” motor torpedo boats, armed with a 40mm Bofors gun and 4 torpedoes: 12$

>Buy a French “Alouette II” light scout helicopter, armed with Nord SS.11 wire guided missiles: 7$
>Buy three new French CM.170 “Magister” jet trainer planes, can be modified to carry ordinance: 15$
>Buy four more American F-84G “Thunderjet” jet fighter-bombers: 32$
>Buy four French Dassault MD.450 “Ouragan” jet fighter-bombers: 36$
>Buy four American F-86 “Sabre” dedicated jet fighters: 38$

Special projects:
>Six concrete pillboxes: 6$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
>Underground ammo depots in the Obregan fortified area: 4$
>Radar station in Obregan: 5$
>Start up an ammo manufacturing shop: 4$ (4 already invested)
>Divert funds into improving the roads: 16$
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>>4344490
yes, added that right above
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>>4345611
>we outnumber and outgun the PRS in everything (except tanks)

>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$
>Start up an ammo manufacturing shop: 4$
>Buy three French modern “Panhard EBR” armored cars, armed with a 75mm gun and one 7.5mm machinegun: 11$
>Buy three new American M41 “Walker Bulldog” light tanks, armed with a long 75mm gun and a M2 50. Machine gun: 16$
>Buy three French AMX-13 new light tanks, armed with long autoloaded 75mm gun and a 7.5mm machinegun: 18$

I want some speedy armored boys. Probably don't get voted on.
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>>4345631
Two notes till im still here, if you want to consider:
1.The Panhard gun's penetration is not enough to take out a T-34 frontally (on the side it can from 1500m as the sides aint sloped).
2.As we already have Comets and Hellcats, it is not recommended to put three new types of vehicles in service, an option to get 6 AMX's or 6 Bulldogs would be preferred. It wont be fatal in any way if you do, just will reduce EXP gain due to the different types and make modernization complicated.
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>>4345650
Good notes. I'll change it.

Can we still buy the Hellcats? Did you forget to add them? Or they're not available right now?
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>>4345658
Considering the M36 took over in its role back in 1945, they are either sold off to other countries since then, given away to NATO members like Italy or scrapped.
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>AMX-13 is still not in production, but its not a bad tank. It can fuck up a T-34 at decent range and that drum autoloader can unleash hell on infantry when HE is loaded, problem comes when T-54/55 comes. PRS has 12 T-34s.
>Holds 12 rounds in the drum magazines

>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (155mm shells): 3$
>Buy 250lb (~100kg) bombs to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 3$
>Start up an ammo manufacturing shop: 4$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
>Buy six French AMX-13 new light tanks, armed with long autoloaded 75mm gun and a 7.5mm machinegun: 36$
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>>4345607
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (155mm shells): 3$
>Convert our BREN guns to the now widely used 7.62x51mm: 7$ (price includes buying up a decent ammo stockpile)
>Start up an ammo manufacturing shop: 4$
>Divert funds into improving the roads: 16$
>Buy three American M36 “Jackson” tank destroyers, armed with a 90mm gun and a M2 machine gun: 18$

we need to get the brens converted finish the ammo factory the roads are a good investment and the tanks are needed to beat their tanks(the Jackson can pen the T34)
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>>4345607
>>4345611
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (155mm shells): 3$
>Buy HVAR rockets to be fitted on the F-84G’s: 4$
>Convert our BREN guns to the now widely used 7.62x51mm: 7$ (price includes buying up a decent ammo stockpile)
>Buy an American “PC-451” gunboat, armed with one 75mm gun and 4x20mm Oerlikon guns: 6$
>Buy 2 M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 2$
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Dirt airfield track southwest of Obregan: 4$
>Start up an ammo manufacturing shop: 4$ (4 already invested)
>Divert funds into improving the roads: 16$
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>>4345607

Ammunition:
>Expand our stockpiles of ammo we are relatively short on (155mm shells): 3$

Heavy weapons:
>Buy a M2 Browning .50 cal machinegun from USA: 1$

To round out our budget, and also maybe stick on a halftrack.

Transport Vehicles:
>Buy 5 American 6-ton trucks: 4$
>Buy 15 American M3 half-tracks, unarmed, can be fitted with a M2 Browning: 21$

Can anyone say Mechanized Battalion? (we already have 5, each carries 10, getting these will allow us to have a very mobile Battalion)
Also trucks for logistics

Combat Vehicles:
>Buy three British Comet medium tanks, armed with 77mm HV gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 17$

Not the best tank we can buy, but effect against T-34s, very effective against ZiS guns, and we already have some so we already have ammo set up for it. Also it's relatively cheap and it's NOT a light tank.

Special projects:
>Start up an ammo manufacturing shop: 4$ (4 already invested)
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>>4345611
>Buy six British Comet medium tanks, armed with 77mm HV gun and a 7.92mm machine gun: 34$
>Divert funds into improving the roads: 16$

Nice and simple. We have enough tanks to counter their tanks. Uses the same ammo we already have. Have roads to move units and supplies.
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>>4345688
Support
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>>4345757
Supporting
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>>4345757
I think it's foolish to pass up the ammo manufacturing, especially since we already started investing in it, and we need more 155mm arty ammo, but more Comets is a better idea than a third type of tank we need to buy ammo for, so I'll change my vote to support this.
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>>4346166
I agree. Next time we should invest in the factory and get some more artillery.
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>>4346211
We don't really need more artillery, we just need the ammo. We have the manpower, just need to upgun it.
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>>4346226
What do you mean? We only have 8 total artillery guns.
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>>4346272
I feel like they have very limited anti vehicle capabilities and I want to exploit that. To do this, I would like to invest in our armored forces (which we are doing this buy), but also mobile infantry forces to exploit a breakthrough caused by said armored forces. More artillery is nice, I just don't think it's the best way to exploit their weaknesses. I want more ammo for our 155's so that they can meaningfully contribute in any sort of longer conflict.
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>>4346286
That's a good point. I think the arty is already motorized, so I'll agree to getting transport for the infantry with it. I just want the infantry to have proper support. Otherwise they're more of a garrison unit rather than a attacking force.
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>>4346313
They don't need to be a proper attacking force for the mobile portion at least. It just needs to hold the line while our armor causes chaos/creates an encirclement to buy time for our proper attacking forces to do their work.
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>>4346333
I'll vote for the half-track/truck and ammo factory order in 63
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>>4345751
Supporting this
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Great, a three way tie
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>>4346586
Classic, I'll put mine on >>4345751so we can move on
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>>4345751
Supporting this.
I still want the AMX-13 to just brrrr on any armor the PRS has or unleash hell on infantry when HE is loaded. It could also be used for a Mechanized Battalion.

Having 12 rounds outweighs the light tank. Because we can unload many shots in little time. Move it around to unload into infantry and retreats if we don't want to use them against T-34 even tho they can pent them.
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>>4347195
I didn't consider them as a possibility to support the mechanized, that's a good idea. My main issues then would be money and ammo, those are more expensive than comets. Not saying we can't get them later, it just might be tight to squeeze them in.
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Looks like you have resolved the draw, going with this >>4345751. Report coming soon.
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>>4347209
At least just by discussing about it. Anons will keep the AMX-13 in mind if we need it in the future. Since that thing isn't going away Until 87.

I'll just say we'll have to keep a eye on WW2 tanks as they're running out. Like the "Hellcat". "Jackson" were 21$ now they're 18$. Comets work for now, really everything depends on the rolls
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Took me bit longer, excuse me.
Now I've repurposed 4th Battalion into a Mechanized one with the half tracks. If you want any changes done to it, equipment shuffle, attaching shit to it, disband and return the halftracks to the stockpile etc. mention it.

If not, four rolls of 6 for PRS gains.
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>>4347549
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>>4347549
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>>4347549
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>>4345751
Fucking M3 halftracks.
They are not bullet proof and machinegun fire can penetrate them.
We should request APC's instead or just use have trucks and tanks with infantry riding on them.
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Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4347549
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Our intelligence did not detect import of large ordinance such as vehicles into the PRS. It is presumed that this year they have focused on modernizing their small arms, as some border patrols have been spotted with SKS semi-auto rifles. The replaced weaponry seems to be sent back to the storage as no new units were formed (that we know of).
(From weak intelligence roll)

Now, 1962 is an election year. The ruling liberal party that we are controlling for the most part is of average popularity. The conservative and the “more conservative” party of the former administrations are also on the rise with their criticisms of the ineptitude of the liberals when it comes to development projects. We could re-align with another party and throw the whole liberal administration under the bus if we want to…

>Keep backing the liberals, they are still useful and have not done overall harm.
>Call up the new conservatives, they might reduce the budget a bit, but their program looks towards securing permanent foreign presence (French/British) on the islands.
>Back the old conservatives, we need the previous president’s vigor when it came to developing the country and unifying the nation against the communists.

>Do not back anyone, let them fight fair.
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>>4347796
>Do not back anyone, let them fight fair.
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>>4347796
>Back the old conservatives, we need the previous president’s vigor when it came to developing the country and unifying the nation against the communists.
We got our budget increase so let’s go back to the Chad President so he can finish that road network.
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>>4347796
>Back the old conservatives, we need the previous president’s vigor when it came to developing the country and unifying the nation against the communists.
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>>4347796
>Back the old conservatives, we need the previous president’s vigor when it came to developing the country and unifying the nation against the communists.
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>>4347796
>>Back the old conservatives, we need the previous president’s vigor when it came to developing the country and unifying the nation against the communists.
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>>4347796
>Do not back anyone, let them fight fair.
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>>4347796
>Keep backing the liberals, they are still useful and have not done overall harm.
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>>4347796
>Back the old conservatives, we need the previous president’s vigor when it came to developing the country and unifying the nation against the communists.

Plus, add those spare M2’s we have in storage to 5 of the half tracks

>>4347589
To this anon’s point, is there a way we can pay to up-armour the half tracks to decrease bullet penetration?
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>>4348394
>is there a way we can pay to up-armour
Yes, buy better vehicles.

We could even get the "GAVIN" If we wait a year.
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>>4348394
While the halftracks may not be indeed be bullet proof at point blank, they some enough protection above 300 meters .... as long we arer not talking about a HMG of course. And its a half track, it gives no shit about or crap roads.

Anyhow, going innawoods again ... I've archived the thread and will likely continue on Monday like last time as im too tired on Sundays to do it.
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>>4349289
rifle round, like 7.62x54r with ap ammo can pen it, and they have no overhead protection
We have plenty of other options that won't be so obsolete.

Also why does 1 HMG cost so darn much? Should be half price....
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I have not died-ed.
And even better, I have a thread for you.

>>4354314



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