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Senedag, 3rd Day of Acrimun, 883 A.C.E., Port Bounty – before lunchThe bright tabard of the Green Knight is easily spotted even in the bustling Senedag Port Bounty markets. Any observers might remark on the mysterious figure and the new lady by his side, a woman of remarkable grace and poise hitherto unknown in Pascae social circles. Such observers might take it upon themselves to press in and find out more, lured by the hint of new gossip and rumour, only to find themselves stonewalled by the cool glare of Jerod and a-half-dozen other plain-dressed guardsmen. Young-Lady Roselyn, eldest daughter of Lord Nikolai Andrei, shields her face with a fan. A recent fashion, taken from the pamphlet her little brother provided from Aubrey a few short months ago, she carries it like an expert swordsman wields their blade. “Dreadfully tiring, being spoken to like a child.”“If it helps, I didn’t understand a word of what he was saying either.” Damien glances behind him at a sudden noise, but it is only Jerod beating down an ambitious pickpocket. “Mister Alberto may be half-Langlish but he at least can speak a sentence in Cantīsh without using a four-syllable word.”“Sometimes I think the men of our House would rather face down a charge of trolls than unpack one of Mister Young’s talks. But I at least understand him as a creature. Mister Alberto on the other hand, he’s too much a product of Port Bounty. Too connected. I could practically feel him leering at my heavy purse and envisioning future Romani contacts…”“I don’t think it was your purse he was leering at…” “Hush, you.” A flick of Roselyn’s fan discards her brother’s rueful barb into the trash. “Mister Alberto may be a sleazy commoner out to make quick coin, but that Mister Young does have some intriguing ideas. What struck your fancy?”Of course, she knew his answer even before he started grinning. “I liked the powder. Imagine that stuff in a siege.” “It stunk.” Roselyn wrinkles her nose, as if she had detected another whiff of sulphur. “And you don’t know your history, brother. Cathagi Ash has been around for decades, and it’s proven to be an impressive but otherwise fruitless and expensive eccentricity. You’d need a barrel of it for any effect, and for the price of that you could equip every second man in Father’s command with full-plate and horse. Which would you prefer?”“Well, the whole point of the venture was discovering a cheaper way to make more of it. But I take your point.” Damien looked down at his elder sister, shaking his head. “Let me guess, the word-stamper.“It’s called a *press*. And yes, it is a good idea! Years from completion, but if it achieved even half the output Mister Young theorised it could… you’re giving me that look again.”[1/2]
>>4316752Oh my god you're actually back
[2/2]“But it’s so boring! …And who would want to print the same book a thousand times?” Damien scowls, knowing his preference of the explosive powder was not likely to gain much traction with Mother. Picking your battles is only wise, and a quick change of tact helps cover the retreat. “He’s not going to be happy, you know.”“Hm? Who?”“Don’t “who?” me. You know who. Emile. About that date you’ve set him up with.”“What about her? She’s lovely.” Damien signed, rubbing the backing of his neck. “Why are you allowed to lie so blatantly? Because you’re a girl?”“No. It’s because I’m a pretty girl.” Roselyn’s playful tone was nonetheless dismissive, there was little point in arguing with her once she was like this. “Emile’s attendance is crucial, his reputation following recent events makes you untouchable while in his presence. At least at the ball. Deals were made, and if my little brother had to be sold like a commodity to further the good of the house than so be it. Almighty knows we women know what that’s like.”Emile’s date for tomorrow evening is not someone he would normally be seen involved with. They have their own reasons for being seen in his presence, all very little to do with how they personally feel about the young knight with a growing reputation. ===============================================================> Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]> Isabella Moretti. Daughter of the one of the Admirals of the Langlish fleets, a powerful man. Rumour has it she was barred from the last Ball due to suspicions she was acting as a foreign spy. [Langlish Captain]> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]> Felicity Young, niece to the successful inventor. Common-born, and a little dim, the girl tries desperately hard to fit in with the higher classes and find a suitor rich in pedigree but hard on their luck. [Pascae Debutante]
>>4316760>> Felicity Young, niece to the successful inventor. Common-born, and a little dim, the girl tries desperately hard to fit in with the higher classes and find a suitor rich in pedigree but hard on their luck. [Pascae Debutante]
>>4316760> Felicity Young, niece to the successful inventor. Common-born, and a little dim, the girl tries desperately hard to fit in with the higher classes and find a suitor rich in pedigree but hard on their luck. [Pascae Debutante]So when do we stop messing about and go ask that one bro if we can marry his sister?
I know it's the first vote, but keep in mind this date is mainly a cover for you to get entry to the ball. It is not, unless Emile tries to get involved, much more than a flavour of how the night may go.>>4316759Of course, my knigga. Rested up and ready for action.
>>4316757>shields her face with a fan. A recent fashionwho do we blame Pascae or Carthaggi?>CantīshOffical language of glorious canton thats not english>>4316760> Felicity Young, niece to the successful inventor. Common-born, and a little dim, the girl tries desperately hard to fit in with the higher classes and find a suitor rich in pedigree but hard on their luck. [Pascae Debutante]What the fuck is these stronk women choices?
>>4316760>> Isabella Moretti. Daughter of the one of the Admirals of the Langlish fleets, a powerful man. Rumour has it she was barred from the last Ball due to suspicions she was acting as a foreign spy. [Langlish Captain]
>>4316760> Isabella Moretti. Daughter of the one of the Admirals of the Langlish fleets, a powerful man. Rumour has it she was barred from the last Ball due to suspicions she was acting as a foreign spy. [Langlish Captain]She seems the most interesting as a person.I don't get the support for Felicity she is by far the least interesting to me. Is it because anon wants her uncle?
I want to pay the minstrels to play this if anyknigga starts getting uppity with us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRIfsFefatg
>>4316775She seems like the least likely to cause problems for us. She is, after all, just a cover. She'll be dull, awkward and (hopefully) quiet. She might cause people to negatively comment on us bringing a commoner to the ball but that's fairly minor. Basically she'll probably stay out of the way whilst we do more important things. I could see most of the others... getting in the way so to speak
>>4316775it's more they all seem like they have baggage but young will shut up and won't make trouble because she is trying to fit in
>>4316778also she is the only one that dosen't seem to be pushing 50
>>4316775I mean thats an added bonus mostly though its she's the only Cantonian lady and the most demure on the list of strong woman I imagine emille has at least some aversion to considering previous experinces.>>4316776>Not Medieval X gon give it to ya
as for why i went for the langish gal I'm interested what we can glean about the langish involvement in the forest and to see if we can see if she is a spy or not
>>4316782I doubt they are involved although if they were that would have some dangerous implications for the scale of inolvment in the forest intrigue.
the only bad side of young is the fact she may be expecting courting from us and may waste our time at the ball trying to get in our pants the other women won't care if we try to flirt with other people at the ball imo
>>4316789We can just be an aloof dick if we need to. Or just do our usual performance of fucking up our social rolls and coming off as someone she isn't interested in
>>4316790I don't think she cares for Emile's personalty as long as his name is still Andrei
> Isabella Moretti. Daughter of the one of the Admirals of the Langlish fleets, a powerful man. Rumour has it she was barred from the last Ball due to suspicions she was acting as a foreign spy. [Langlish Captain]> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]also another way of looking at it is these 2 can get a better way of naval travel for the pilgrimage
>>4316793That's a pretty good point I hadn't considered
>>4316794us*
>>4316789She's probably more interested in the local men; after all outside of Pascae I doubt common-born would even be able to attend such an event.
>>4316760>> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]Could be really fun to help her have her revenge.
Why is everybody chosing Felicity ? She's by far the least interesting character of the four. The first three could give really cool stories and potential future adventures but Felicity is the only one who can bring us... uh... nothing but boredom.
>>4316808She also seems like the safest bet to get through this ball without issue. We've got plenty of interesting things going on at the moment, we don't need to get embroiled in extra political conflict
>>4316760> Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]Normally I be the first to go for the redhead, but it's a no deal without freckles. Here's for something different.
>>4316810>>4316808I didn't vote for her but i can see why one would vote for the one who is not going to get us into a scandal.
>>4316814SecondedCome on guys, try to pick something interesting, I know Felicity is the "safe choice" but when have we ever settled for the safe choice?>>4316752Glad to see you back, I was eagerly awaiting your return!
>>4316760>> Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]
>>4316760> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]Why are you kniggas picking anyone else? The viking lady is perfect for us
Hello Forgotten. It's good to see you back mate.>>4316760>Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]Cathago is our next destination since the last vigil (The Long Walk) is there. I would like to learn anything about Cathago that she can tell us.>Felicity Young, niece to the successful inventor. Common-born, and a little dim, the girl tries desperately hard to fit in with the higher classes and find a suitor rich in pedigree but hard on their luck. [Pascae Debutante]She sounds sweet and would get along quite well with Emile. They can help each other at the Ball.Either choice is good I would say.
>>4316760>Look at Felicity's image Basic bitch is basic, let's hook up with grandma!>Actually read Felicity's descriptionOh fuck I'm in love.> Felicity Young, niece to the successful inventor. Common-born, and a little dim, the girl tries desperately hard to fit in with the higher classes and find a suitor rich in pedigree but hard on their luck. [Pascae Debutante]I'm sorry bros. Grandma Patrikas is the best choice, but I can't not vote for Felicity.
>>4316760> Isabella Moretti. Daughter of the one of the Admirals of the Langlish fleets, a powerful man. Rumour has it she was barred from the last Ball due to suspicions she was acting as a foreign spy. [Langlish Captain]
>>4316760>patrikasMaybe, we have a thing for strong women already.>langlishNah. Fuck the lagnlish, even our sister wouldnt be that mean.>norsikkanI mean sure, but can a man of god stand by and let such wrath loose in the realm.>felicityAw cutiepie, but a commoner. Still, could be good to have ties with that inventor family
We back Kniggas!>>4316760> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]
>>4316760> Isabella Moretti. Daughter of the one of the Admirals of the Langlish fleets, a powerful man. Rumour has it she was barred from the last Ball due to suspicions she was acting as a foreign spy. [Langlish Captain]> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]We will only ever have strong, Chad babies
>>4316760> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge.Seems like the least likely one that we will have romantic interactions with due to distance . Also it seems like something that our sister would due to get back at us for our antics during our journey, having us go to a ball with a woman set on violence.
>>4316760> Isabella Moretti. Daughter of the one of the Admirals of the Langlish fleets, a powerful man. Rumour has it she was barred from the last Ball due to suspicions she was acting as a foreign spy. [Langlish Captain]> Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]
>>4316760>> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]
>>4316760> Felicity Young, niece to the successful inventor. Common-born, and a little dim, the girl tries desperately hard to fit in with the higher classes and find a suitor rich in pedigree but hard on their luck. [Pascae Debutante]we have plenty of things going for us at the moment, it's best to get someone inconspicuous
>>4316752It's so good to have you back Forgotten.
Did a shark get Forgotten?
>>4317155i hope someone remembers it
>>4316760>> Isabella Moretti. Daughter of the one of the Admirals of the Langlish fleets, a powerful man. Rumour has it she was barred from the last Ball due to suspicions she was acting as a foreign spy. [Langlish Captain]>> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]
>>4316760> Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]It's a political date.
>>4316808Kniggas are cowards when it comes to socializing.
>>4317057Don't back down, double down.Besides, having another high profile person will take some of the heat off us. Bringing Felicity puts all the focus on us.
>>4316760> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]Warrior waifu, Emile and her will talk about fighting and then she will dom him.
>>4316776This fits Jess the Kid more then us.
>>4316760> Isabella Moretti. Daughter of the one of the Admirals of the Langlish fleets, a powerful man. Rumour has it she was barred from the last Ball due to suspicions she was acting as a foreign spy. [Langlish Captain]> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]
>>4316760> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]Yes this is back up i was getting worryed the qm had forgotten.
>>4317212To be fair, each of the 4 have a political aspect1. An exile, so they want back into their society.2. The daughter of an admiral, so a connection to someone in a position of power.3. A political figure in a distant land, so foreign connections.4. The daughter of a man being patronized by many nobles, so it gives a strong connection to a powerful and growing piece on the political board
>>4317275Yeah, but which one works best A) Now, for Emile to avoid some attention at the ballB) For Emile's future plans. Norsikka and Langland aren't really in the cards, especially since people either want to go Dragonguard or return to Canton.Not to mention future plans for Ardenne seems to be a thing. I suppose going with Felicity will probably be the most profitable, money wise.
>>4316760Happy with either of these two: >Isabella Moretti. Daughter of the one of the Admirals of the Langlish fleets, a powerful man. Rumour has it she was barred from the last Ball due to suspicions she was acting as a foreign spy. [Langlish Captain]>Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]Don’t understand the support for Felicity, she seems like a boring choice
>>4316760>> Felicity Young, niece to the successful inventor. Common-born, and a little dim, the girl tries desperately hard to fit in with the higher classes and find a suitor rich in pedigree but hard on their luck. [Pascae Debutante]Seems the least troublesome and the Almighty knows we get in enough hairy situations as it is.
I think it's time we internalize that the Kiddy gloves are off. We can take risk at court like we do in the battlefield.
>>4316760>> Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]
>>4316822I mean we are going to Cathagi next so that would be reason to take her
>>4316760> Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]> Isabella Moretti. Daughter of the one of the Admirals of the Langlish fleets, a powerful man. Rumour has it she was barred from the last Ball due to suspicions she was acting as a foreign spy. [Langlish Captain]Please not Felicity. Literally the most boring and vanilla choice.
>>4316760> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]Really intrigued in the Norsikaan relations, plus she's one of the few who'll probably look at Emile less as a means to an end and more like a man. Plus, I can just imagine Roselyn's delight in finding a big dumb battle-axe of a woman to go with her big dumb brute of a brother.
>>4317456Thats pretty much what i was thinking as well.
>>4317212>>4316760I'll switch to > Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]If it prevents a Felicity vote.
>>4316760> Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]Glasses are my fetish. Also we can find out more about Dragonguard Gang Gang.
>>4316760>> Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]Questions we can ask for the next leg of our journey. Cool beans.Welcome back forgotten. You've been missed.
>>4316760>> Isabella Moretti. Daughter of the one of the Admirals of the Langlish fleets, a powerful man. Rumour has it she was barred from the last Ball due to suspicions she was acting as a foreign spy. [Langlish Captain]Love me a crafty Langlish
>>4316760>> Isabella Moretti. Daughter of the one of the Admirals of the Langlish fleets, a powerful man. Rumour has it she was barred from the last Ball due to suspicions she was acting as a foreign spy. [Langlish Captain]>> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]GOOOOOO
>>4316760>> Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]She sounds interesting.
Welcome back, Forgotten.>>4316760> Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]We're going to Cathagi eventually, so this seems like a good choice.
>>4316760>Patrikas Ianthe
>>4316760Current tally to my estimate> [Cathagi Exile] 17 votes (1 preffered) (2 deffered) (1 without [Tag])>[Langlish Captain]14 votes (7 preffered) (1deffered)>[Norsikaan Shieldmaiden] 16 votes (7 deffered+1)>[Pascae Debutante] 11 votes>>4316772Changing my vote here >>4316772 to > Felicity Young, niece to the successful inventor. Common-born, and a little dim, the girl tries desperately hard to fit in with the higher classes and find a suitor rich in pedigree but hard on their luck. [Pascae Debutante]> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]
>45 votes on the first vote prompt in the thread Samefagged
>>4318215I mean... not really. This is easily one of the more popular quests on /qst/. We frequently get 45+ votes on almost every option
>>4318216>We frequently get 45+ votes on almost every optionNot true whatsoever. Why are you lying about something that anyone can check by looking at the archived threads?
>>4318217Oh god its you again, I recognize that pattern of writing. I'm not going to engage you in a ridiculous argument and I'm not lying, this quest is very popular comparatively
>>4318219>I'm not lyingYou are absolutely 100% lying and anyone can check what you said is not true simply by checking the archived threads.
>>4318217Yep it's conspiracy time
Hohoho with all the forgotten puns, you cheeky kniggas. By my count the Norsikaan and Cathagi options tied. First to beat the DC gets their pick. New ID rollers will not be counted.> Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]> Ulfhild She-Lion. This battle-scarred Thane sailed here with a score of huscarls to settle a score with one of the other Norsikaan attendants, and means to convince the Duke to let her have her revenge. [Norsikaan Shieldmaiden]===========================> 50 DC
Rolled 21 (1d100)>>4318228
>>4318228>Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]
>>4318229>>4318230Hell yeah Brother!
>>4318228All of these foreigners...where is the KNILF option?
>>4318253that's for when we pleas sister dearest, not piss her off
>>4318228Hey Forgotten if we had gone and chosen our dates for ourselves would it have mattered in terms of the choices?
>>4318265Very different, aside from perhaps Miss Young.Update incoming
>Patrikas Ianthe. Exiles have a habit of drifting to foreign courts. This runaway of the Athenaeum has been trying to get the Duke’s ear for years now and is growing increasingly desperate. [Cathagi Exile]> +1 Wealth [6]“Ros, she has grey hair.” Young Lord Andrei shakes his head again, despairing at his elder sisters choice. “And she’s one of those bloody slavers!”“More silver than grey, really. And hardly a wrinkle to be seen, how does she do it? I hope I look half as good at her age. As for her origin, everyone knows she has fallen far from the good graces of the Medusae Caste. I heard they sent -assassins- after her.” The Young Lady Andrei tilts her head approvingly, as if being worthy of attempted assassination was a trait to be much-admired in a woman. “She was a Patrikas, a librarian of the Athenaeum! Who knows what valuable secrets are stored inside her head? Any knowledge Em can gleam will be invaluable while he’s over there, I’m sure. Who says I don’t look out for my little brother?”“Invaluable to him, or invaluable to you? It’s been what, a decade in exile? If she hasn’t offered information in that time then she’s not about to spill her secrets or open her legs to the first cocksure knight to take her to the Ball.” Damien sniffs, aggrieved on behalf of his little brother. “You basically sold him. Like chattel.”“Well these new courtly clothes of his were very expensive. And it was her or the bloodthirsty northern woman… If he needs to bed the Cathagi exile to spill her secrets then that’s a price worth paying.” “Cain on the Cross, woman, I was joking! …You don’t really think Em would try to bed her, do you?”“You boys really need to stop letting that thing between your legs do all the thinking. Seduction is a weapon like any blade, and all sorts of secrets are spilled through the right pillow talk.” “And what does my own sister know about ‘the right pillow talk’?”“How do you think Mother gets Father to do half of anything?”“They still… But… but she’s so old!” Damien groans as they enter the tavern’s backyard where Emile’s squire and sworn man are currently having a practice bout. [1/3]
>>4318271>> +1 Wealth [6]Yooo.This is fine. This is very fine.So what could we have gotten with the others.
[2/3]Sir Neil dan Marc is an unrefined swordsman, making up for his lack of formal training with simple yet faultless technique and restrained caution against even lesser blade like Mikail. The boy is obviously struggling, panting and leaning full-bodied over his dull blade. Having gotten the last bit out of rest from his light duties over the past few weeks, he can expect little respite from his training regimen from now on. Sir Neil dan Marc is merely keeping him warmed up while their liege attends other business in the city.“What ho Mikail! Sir dan Marc, how goes it?” The Green Knight embraces the change in conversation like a man clinging to a plank of wood at sea. “How is your young sparring partner faring?”“Sloppy. The boy is weeks behind in his forms. I fear I may not have him much progressed for Sir Andrei by the time we set sail for Cathagi.” Mikail winces behind him, be keeps his mouth shut. “But I’ll be damned if I let him slouch any further. At least he’s not tripping over his own sword anymore.”“Ah well keep at it, won’t you Mikail? There’s a good lad.” The Green Knight looks around, his brother nowhere in sight. “Where’s Sir Andrei? I don’t see him or his white-cloaked shadow around. Nor Jess the Kid in some time either, come to think of it.”“Take a break, Mikail. Jerod has some news from your Father.” Mikail doesn’t need to be told twice, sprinting off with newfound energy to where the normally hard-eyed Jerod breaks into a rare grin, ruffling the youngster’s hair to the boy’s dismay. Sir Neil dan Marc smiles at the scene for a moment before turning to his “My sire is with Father Towbray in the chapel down the street, giving confession.”“He spends an awful time with that Reclamant Confessor of his.” Roselyn observes, her tone carefully neutral.“He takes his faith seriously, little sis. That’s no bad thing.”“Of course not, perish the though. But his penchant for confession isn’t why you sent the squire away, is it Sir dan Marc?”Sir Andrei’s sworn man nods. “My Ladyship has the right of it. My sire wished for me to notify you upon your return that the other two would be using your warehouse down by the docks, as this location was not suitable.”“Suitable for what?”“There is a… guest. One of unsavoury character with potentially vital information to my sire’s investigation on the Praetor’s behalf. I will risk offending Her Ladyship with any further details.” “My, my. Our little Em has grown, hasn’t he?” Roselyn’s smile showed far too many teeth, amused by this Fallavon’s misconception that she was the -least- ruthless one present.Sir dan Marc was thinking about his brother, since the ruins. A shadow in his face, or a weight on his shoulders. “Little sis, you don’t know the half of it...”
>>4318271>+1 wealth>potential secret loreI am more than a little okay with losing my choice
>>4318273>Sir dan Marc was thinking about his brotherheh secret sibling apparently
>>4318271>You don’t really think Em would try to bed her, do you?Oh brother XD
>>4318275Whoops*Young Lord Andrei
[3/3]Senedag, 3rd Day of Acrimun, 883 A.C.E., Port Bounty – Sir Emile Andrei“Your Eminence, I wish I could tell you of when the Angel first appeared. truly. But I swore a holy oath to speak no word of this. I am bound, by Church Law and the weight of my word both.”“I understand, my son. Forgive my curiosity, I knew you were special but… If the Monsignor does insist on a formal hearing, which is all but inevitable given the implications of your experience, they will likely have a representative of the Mater Reginae with the required seniority to release you from your oath of silence.” Concern weighs on the wiry Father Towbray’s brow like a physical mass. “As your Confessor I will petition to be present, but there is every chance that it will be a closed hearing. All evidence shielded from outside eyes. Even their findings, potentially.”“You think they would… censure me?”“Yes. Yes, it is a possibility. You must understand that the Church is a holy institution. A holy insititution, yes. But an organisation of men nonetheless. Any such organisation of man is prone to weakness, hesitation. Corruption even. I fear they are not listen to your testimony without hearing it, if you understand. They are not ready for a revelation of this magnitude. Not since Night of Three Sisters has there been a public acknowledgement of direct communion with the Divine.” Father Towbray hesitates, clearly uncomfortable to be wrestling with his own quandry in front of his charge. “If they censure you and you then speak of any of it, true or false you will condemn yourself. But if word were to get out beforehand… if someone, other than yourself…”---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->“I must ask that you do not, Father. The Monsignor is a fellow man of the Faith, and a man of rank at that. He has requested silence until the hearing for good reason. If they censure me, I shall hold my tongue.” [Haughty]>“The Angel’s message will not be silenced. Cannot be silenced. Tell the pilgrims what I have seen, what you have seen, they know me and my worth. If the word is already out by the time of the hearing, no craven bureaucracy can stem it then.” [Hearty]>“Father Towbray, I worry that your suggestion stems from fear rather than faith. If the Angel bids me speak, I shall speak. And I shall speak whether the Law of Adam would declare me saint or heretic.” [Idealist]
>>4318278>>“Father Towbray, I worry that your suggestion stems from fear rather than faith. If the Angel bids me speak, I shall speak. And I shall speak whether the Law of Adam would declare me saint or heretic.” [Idealist]
>>4318278>“Father Towbray, I worry that your suggestion stems from fear rather than faith. If the Angel bids me speak, I shall speak. And I shall speak whether the Law of Adam would declare me saint or heretic.” [Idealist]
>>4318278>“Father Towbray, I worry that your suggestion stems from fear rather than faith. If the Angel bids me speak, I shall speak. And I shall speak whether the Law of Adam would declare me saint or heretic.” [Idealist]lololololololol we start civil war boogaloo WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>4318278>“I must ask that you do not, Father. The Monsignor is a fellow man of the Faith, and a man of rank at that. He has requested silence until the hearing for good reason. If they censure me, I shall hold my tongue.” [Haughty]
Hmm. Come to think of it, we actually have another example already. One that can be verified. The letter.
>>4318278>>“I must ask that you do not, Father. The Monsignor is a fellow man of the Faith, and a man of rank at that. He has requested silence until the hearing for good reason. If they censure me, I shall hold my tongue.” [Haughty]Prefer not to leave Canton under a cloud.
>>4318278>Not since Night of Three Sisters has there been a public acknowledgement of direct communion with the DivineOh shit big dick angel shit makes me concerned about our angels mission for us>“Father Towbray, I worry that your suggestion stems from fear rather than faith. If the Angel bids me speak, I shall speak. And I shall speak whether the Law of Adam would declare me saint or heretic.” [Idealist]Haughty we stand as an island and are potentially am damned as an islandHearty is we start the goddamn Crown war boogaloo early Idealist means we do as the angel bid and fuck ourselves if its inclined as such.shits fucked yo>>4318286that would Implicate through correlating events devious but would Emille go for it?
>>4318292It actually sorta provides a plausible option to both acknowledge that Emile has been touched and yet not open the can of worms that is the secret war if the church needs an actual event to show for it.And an angel touching a knight to solve a string of long unsolved murders and bring justice to its victims makes for a good story for the masses. That the Almighty will punish the wicked some way or the other.That the church is potentially corrupt enough to do this is a given.
>>4318294I mean mentioning the angels part in the letter is a very solid implication that its not *strictly* a delusion as we didnt even know of the letter, that said informing them of the murder may actually tip our killer that we may be onto them if they are present in the clergy as someone present.but that depends on the Caveat that the priest reffered to in the letter is litreal and not just Academic/scholar/High value person seems theirs a risk to be taken in solidly providing evidence of our miracle versus potentially letting the killer know we have solid leads.
>>4318304Considering that even our confessor may not be allowed to join in the proceedings, it's likely high enough up the food chain that the murderer would not be present but sure, its certainly a concern. And yes, the letter would show that its a real thing and not just mad ramblings.We could possibly ask that they not release their final decision until we catch the culprit. In fact, since we're directly presenting the evidence in secret to the chief church officials and reginae representative, we might be able to leverage on their aid to go about the catching of the suspect.
>>4318278>“Father Towbray, I worry that your suggestion stems from fear rather than faith. If the Angel bids me speak, I shall speak. And I shall speak whether the Law of Adam would declare me saint or heretic.” [Idealist]Hard choices coming.>>4318286What part of the letter?
>>4318310thats a fair point and while I do certainly hope we are far enough up the food chain that our killer is not involved I don't know we can be certain of that, the killer has been functioning for quite a while in Port bounty and has evaded both the order Praetor & the Watch and that either speaks to a degree of privliege or standing that puts him above the watchful or devilish degree of intellect/cunning.damage control is a nice Idea but given the implications that this kind of communion hasn't been seen since the night of three sisters which claimed Ardenne I don't think thats going to be effective be it elation, suspicion or simple gossip such a thing could very likely get out and alert the killer among other people about what we know.
>>4318313That we didnt know the existance of the letter until the angel told us of it.
>>4318278>“...They will likely have a representative of the Mater Reginae with the required seniority to release you from your oath of silence.”This means that one of the Queen's heralds will be present. Only the Queen or one of her heralds can release us from our oath.
>>4318278>>“I must ask that you do not, Father. The Monsignor is a fellow man of the Faith, and a man of rank at that. He has requested silence until the hearing for good reason. If they censure me, I shall hold my tongue.” [Haughty]
>>4318278>Father Towbray, I worry that your suggestion stems from fear rather than faith. If the Angel bids me speak, I shall speak. And I shall speak whether the Law of Adam would declare me saint or heretic.” [Idealist]I absolutely fucking love where that Nat 100 + this ‘angel’ choice has landed us.Bet Forgotten never expected to be focusing as much on the faith as we have been. This is what makes good quests great!
>>4318317Oh yeah, that was freaky.
>>4318278This was tough but i lean “Father Towbray, I worry that your suggestion stems from fear rather than faith. If the Angel bids me speak, I shall speak. And I shall speak whether the Law of Adam would declare me saint or heretic.” [Idealist] Because we do what the angle wants personal consequences be damned. Though Haughty has appeal in not dragging anyone else down with us
>>4318278>“Father Towbray, I worry that your suggestion stems from fear rather than faith. If the Angel bids me speak, I shall speak. And I shall speak whether the Law of Adam would declare me saint or heretic.” [Idealist]We generally do what the Angel bids, but what I find interesting about it is that it can be interpreted not as zealous and blind obedience, but as that of loyal child being told something by a trusted figure. We will do as it commands, but we dont always believe it. It names us the greatest knight and I dont think it would be in character for Emile do believe it. As I said, its similar to a parent telling their child that they will do great and that everything will be fine. We dont believe what they say, but we do believe the speaker and that hey have the best intentions for us.
>>4318278>“Father Towbray, I worry that your suggestion stems from fear rather than faith. If the Angel bids me speak, I shall speak. And I shall speak whether the Law of Adam would declare me saint or heretic.” [Idealist]Interesting implications.
>>4318278>>“The Angel’s message will not be silenced. Cannot be silenced. Tell the pilgrims what I have seen, what you have seen, they know me and my worth. If the word is already out by the time of the hearing, no craven bureaucracy can stem it then.” [Hearty]
>>4318411>it names us the greatest knight and I dont think it would be in character for Emile do believe it.we are playing the same character right? Emille ''I don't want to lose so I'm willing to accidently kill a knigga'' Andrei, Emille absolutely sits on the middle of that path of what can be considered Pride and Arrogance when it comes to being a knight
>>4318278>“The Angel’s message will not be silenced. Cannot be silenced. Tell the pilgrims what I have seen, what you have seen, they know me and my worth. If the word is already out by the time of the hearing, no craven bureaucracy can stem it then.” [Hearty]>>4317260This is me;
>>4318271> “They still… But… but she’s so old!” Damien groansHoly shit, Damien, do you have zero survival instincts?>>4318278> Good options. Where?>“Father Towbray, I worry that your suggestion stems from fear rather than faith. If the Angel bids me speak, I shall speak. And I shall speak whether the Law of Adam would declare me saint or heretic.” [Idealist]Well. At least we didn't end up taking the commoner.
>>4318458> Emille absolutely sits high on his horse on the middle of that path of what can be considered Pride and Arrogance when it comes to being a knightYou mean sit on the ground? Like a *peasant* just flopping down wherever?
>>4318411I take it as a test, we are suppose to remain humble despite his praise. It's ok to want to be the greatest knight alive but we are a long way from there.
>>4317527>>4318563This is moi
>>4316821This is me.>>4318278>“Please don't, Father. I have faith in the Almighty, that his message may carry whererver he wishes heedless of the desires of mankind. If I do not speak, it is only so that another may speak in my stead or that my truth may shine brighter when it is revealed. ” [Idealist]
>>4318278Me >>4318349I like this >>4318730 changing I was trying to think of a way to tell the Father that we understand his fears and may share them, but will still do as the almighty commands
>>4318730Eh.I guess it's not worse than the original choice.
>>4318765
>>4318278fug father tobrays a bro are you kinda surprised the players warmed up to him forgotten?also>“Father Towbray, I worry that your suggestion stems from fear rather than faith. If the Angel bids me speak, I shall speak. And I shall speak whether the Law of Adam would declare me saint or heretic.” [Idealist]
>>4318458There is a difference between pride in oneself and their abilities and believing that they are the greatest knight. We have been rather haughty at times, but we dont consider ourselves to be Le Epic Chosen One who must never be beaten.
>>4318458We are a little better than that since we actually feel bad for the dead we cause.
>>4318730This sounds good so supporting.
>>4318730Sounds retarded. another case of fags voting for custom shit just because they can
>>4319296Imagine being butthurt at the playerbase being so invested they go for write ins on occasion
>>4318278>“Father Towbray, I worry that your suggestion stems from fear rather than faith. If the Angel bids me speak, I shall speak. And I shall speak whether the Law of Adam would declare me saint or heretic.” [Idealist]Might be sticking our dick out in the car door opening, waiting for the Almighty to decided to shut it on it, or tell us to put it back in our pants and carry on. Either way, sure to be more interesting, and still in line with prior developments of Emile's devoutness and trust in higher ideals over the words and actions of the men claiming to speak on their behalf.
>>4319296>1 post IDBack to the Pit with you
>>4318278>>4318730This is fine
>>4319345I mean, OOC we DID get it from a corrupt abomination (?) So either it's also corrupted, or the Almighty has been misrepresented by the Church and maybe has a blue/orange morality.But Emile went FULL ANGEL a while ago, so we gonna ride this train. Who knows, maybe the Lightning Strike zapped some good into it, since it deus ex machina'd finding the letter telling about the priest involved in the murders.Can't wait until we tell them about THAT little tidbit, should lend significant credence to our story.
>>4319370Speaking of which, will revealing the Angel helped us find a significant clue about the ritual murders happening be something we can bring up?
>>4319647Well the rational explanation is that Emile somehow knew of the existence of the letter beforehand. He knows he didn’t, but how to prove that?
>>4319676Faith doesn't need proof.
>>4319676Also, some rando coming into the city and busting the murder case wide open? That's already ridiculous.
>>4319676In fact, insisting it was a divine revelation is so ridiculous on top of that, that it makes more sense compared to trying a more reasonable explanation if it was some sort of plot for Almighty knows what reason.Plus the whole Lightning Trial penance.
>>4318565haha you caught me for the knave I am.>>4319024okay thats a fair point but I still think a flat rejection of what is to us a litreal angel telling us we are the hot shit won't have some feedback on our already somewhat inflated ego.
>>4319823It doesn't mean Emile will believe he can never lose.Just that if he does lose, that it serves a purpose to make him learn for the next challenge. He might stumble, but he can get up again.All humans started out as slaves, the ultimate losers. But they dragged themselves up, led by the Sons of Sin two Brothers and the Regina, but not carried by them.
Hmm.I went to do a rereading of our archives for fun.For all this talk, its already out of the bag. I think Father Tobray has been going about spreading word of this already.>“Ah yes, speaking of faith…” Heinrich leans forward slightly. “A little birdie mentioned that a certain knight of that duchy has been claiming to receive direct communication from his own personal angel, if you can believe that sort of thing…”>“An angel?” Karlaus scoffs, sculling his drink. “The Almighty’s got better things to than to send obscure messages to random folk assign them fairy godmothers. He’s busy enough keeping the sun rising each day, for one thing.”>“I imagine the priests would say it is fully within the Almighty’s power to do both.” Heinrich arches an eyebrow painfully high. “It is somewhat implied in the name.”
>>4319905Im not saying he won't believe can ever lose the Snek encounter really put a pin in that to be sure buts that a nice way of looking at it anon.
>>4319914well the intial stuff did yeah when we talked to the signor but not all of it & specifically not what we bore witness too.
>>4319914Huh. Good catch.
>>4319914Fuck me, you're right.
>>4319914>>4320072>>4320099> 2 Success>The Monsignor official doesn’t know what to believe. He has his doubts, but he would not consider dismissing the possibility that you are indeed having visions of the divine. This will require a more serious inquiry from a panel of senior clergy, including the Bishop.> Double Fail: Word of your encounter with the Angel gets out, perhaps to the wrong peopleit was a botched role in literately the previous thread. I fear for the future when the past is so quickly forgotten.The only people present at the time were us, Tobary and the Church official, so either one of em talked, there was an eavesdropper, the church had a leak after the report was made.
I like it when players notice things. And when they don't
>“Father Towbray, I worry that your suggestion stems from fear rather than faith. If the Angel bids me speak, I shall speak. And I shall speak whether the Law of Adam would declare me saint or heretic.” [Idealist] “Father Towbray, I worry that your suggestion stems from fear rather than faith. If the Angel bids me speak, I shall speak.” You consider the ramifications of that, how you might find yourself up on the pyre. This Being recognised a martyr long after being burnt a heretic is scant consolation. But to let fear rule you and stay your tongue against the Angel’s command is the worst sort of weakness. “And I shall speak whether the Law of Adam would declare me saint or heretic.” “Of course, I only meant… No, the sin of doubt this time is mine alone, mea culpa. Few knights are without valour on the battlefield. But your character, your… your character. There is a quieter strength there, my son. Soft, but undeniably more remarkable in its endurance than what the bards mean when they speak of ‘courage’.” Father Towbray’s face scrunches up, skeletal thin hands trembling in a fist to his bowed forehead. “I have given my own charge cause to consider questionable acts, or perform them on his behalf, however well intentioned. I am ashamed. What kind of faithless priest… what kind of wretched confessor am I? I am not worthy even to wear this humblest cloak of office.”The wiry priest’s hands begin to tear at his ragged dyed-wool coat, tears forming in the distraught But in an impulsive breach of common decorum your clasp your hands over that of your confessor, preventing your fiery confidant from tearing his coat any further. It is not until later that you even consider your lack of hesitation in your flagrant disregard for etiquette with your confessor, which would have demanded you remain motionless during his emotional display. The two of you have come close, for it to not even be commented upon. “Father Towbray, please! Like most decent folk, it is yourself you judge too harshly. What condition would my immortal soul be in without your erstwhile guidance these past trying months? I pray that you continue in your role now, more than ever…”Following that heavy conversation, Father Towbray offers you some guidance on theological arguments and some common tricks an interrogator might use to trip up your testimony. You hadn’t thought that holy men would stoop to that sort of thing, but you also hadn’t expected that your investigation into the habit murderer might lead to a suspect in the clergy ranks.>Gain +1 Re-Roll to your Persuasion test when giving your testimony[1/3]
It is pushing past lunch when you return to the courtyard, little surprised to see your sister and incognito brother there, fitted fineries in arm and the details of your lunchtime date. You grin at your sworn man on your way over to them.“I think I spotted my squire is smiling over there just now. You're not going too easy on him, are you Sir dan Marc?”“Perish the thought, sire. He was glum enough after our last bout, and little wonder given his performance. But it seems that whatever news your Father's man brought from home has perked him up.”“Hm.” In truth you are little distracted from the circumstances of your entourage, the last few days in this city have taken up all too much of your attention with the investigation and preparations for the ball. Speaking of which...…“A Cathagi Exile? That’s who you saddled me with for the Ball?” “Oh, I’m sorry. The Duke’s daughter wasn’t available at this late hour.” You wince at the sarcasm dripping from Roselyn’s voice as she tosses you a coinpurse, foreign coinage but solid nonetheless.“Yours, fair payment for services rendered.”“What in Salve Reginae’s name is that supposed to mean?” You try to curb the alarm in your voice, but your mind runs wild with the implications.“Calm down. I’m not whoring you out, Em.” You wince again, this time at your sisters casual swearing. She’s supposed to be the ladylike one of yours sisters, at least in public. “The Patrikas never travels without her hired escorts, desertfolk from as far south to Nova Cathago as that city is south from us. But such things are not allowed at the Duke’s ball. I think her paranoid, but it’s telling that she’s relying on you rather than the Duke’s guard complement for her protection there.” “So I’m an over-glorified bodyguard?”“An attractive, over-glorified bodyguard.” Roselyn treats you to the same gleeful smirk that has been your bane since childhood. “If it is any consolation Em, she’s no more a fan of the current Cathagi government than we are. Play your cards right and you could learn things, useful things, for when you’re over there.”“The same current government it’s been for the last thousand years?”“ Please don’t tell me you think this Dragon actually governs Cathagi?” An annoyed flick of the fan swats you on the shoulder. But only because she hasn’t been able to reach the back of your head in years. “Ugh. Boys. It’s a veritable wonder you figure out how to put your shirts on.”…[2/3]
>>4320118>“ Please don’t tell me you think this Dragon actually governs Cathagi?”So, the dragon is the De Jure ruler, but who is the De Facto ruler then ?
[3/3]The residence of the Patrikas Ianthe is one of the more obviously Cathagi influenced villas; stone floor tiles, vines hanging from walls and flowing water fountains are in abundance. Like the Kyria Eustace and Kyria Militades you met months ago on the road to Aubrey, her first name ‘Patrikas’ is in fact a title of office rather than her birth name. Albeit now a rank no longer recognised by the powers that be in that ancient southern realm. Of her reputed southern bodyguards, there is no sign.You had feared that Roselyn had taken her idea of a joke too far, setting you up with a shrivelled old witch from across the sea that babbled foreign nonsense. In reality the Patrikas Ianthe speaks fluent Cantīsh, with a not-entirely unpleasant accent. As for her personal appearance, there is little hint of it other than the colour of her hair. Not a wrinkle to be seen in the shade of her skin, nor crowsfeet or any hint of sagging flesh. Remarkable, for a woman her age. Less a shrivelled witch and more of a classy matronly figure if you’re being honest. Still Cathagi though. “Ah, the young gentleman I’ve heard so much about. I do hope our arrangement is not too much of a burden on your pride, I understand that youthful men scarce like to be seen with foolish old women old of a like enough age to their own mothers.” The Patrikas gestures with a liquid motion to a cup of steaming black liquid on the table. “Khave?”============================================(1) Interaction> “Ma Seour, the only aged trait I detect is your wizened mind.” A subtle linguistic trick to indicate sisterly affection, rather than any less platonic approach though it is possible the distinction will be missed one to whom Cantīsh is not their native tongue. You have no intention of even passingly being involved with this outlandish crone. [Haughty] + [Persuasion]> “Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You picked that line up from one of your sister's droll books. It worked. It would, quite frankly, be rude to attend the ball escorting someone and not put in the effort of some harmless flirtation. Even with a foreigner. And if affection leads to information, all the better… [Hearty] + [Courtship]_(2) Khave?> “My thanks.” Just a sip. Burning hot, and not altogether pleasant. [Haughty]> “By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?” You could get used to this stuff. [Hearty]>“None for me, thank you.” Foreign potions? Nice try, witch. [Idealist]
>>4320120>> “Ma Seour, the only aged trait I detect is your wizened mind.” A subtle linguistic trick to indicate sisterly affection, rather than any less platonic approach though it is possible the distinction will be missed one to whom Cantīsh is not their native tongue. You have no intention of even passingly being involved with this outlandish crone. [Haughty] + [Persuasion]>> “By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?” You could get used to this stuff. [Hearty]
>>4320120>> “Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You picked that line up from one of your sister's droll books. It worked. It would, quite frankly, be rude to attend the ball escorting someone and not put in the effort of some harmless flirtation. Even with a foreigner. And if affection leads to information, all the better… [Hearty] + [Courtship]>“By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?” You could get used to this stuff. [Hearty]
>>4320120(1) Interaction>“Ma Seour, the only aged trait I detect is your wizened mind.” A subtle linguistic trick to indicate sisterly affection, rather than any less platonic approach though it is possible the distinction will be missed one to whom Cantīsh is not their native tongue. You have no intention of even passingly being involved with this outlandish crone. [Haughty] + [Persuasion](2) Khave?>“My thanks.” Just a sip. Burning hot, and not altogether pleasant. [Haughty]
>>4320120> “Ma Seour, the only aged trait I detect is your wizened mind.” A subtle linguistic trick to indicate sisterly affection, rather than any less platonic approach though it is possible the distinction will be missed one to whom Cantīsh is not their native tongue. You have no intention of even passingly being involved with this outlandish crone. [Haughty] + [Persuasion]> “By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?” You could get used to this stuff. [Hearty]
>>4320120>“Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You picked that line up from one of your sister's droll books. It worked. It would, quite frankly, be rude to attend the ball escorting someone and not put in the effort of some harmless flirtation. Even with a foreigner. And if affection leads to information, all the better… [Hearty] + [Courtship]let's get in some practise at this flirting thing. extreme worst case we get on the bad side of a powerless exile "real worst case we flirt too well and have to pry a horny foregine milf of us while our siblings laugh on the floor> “My thanks.” Just a sip. Burning hot, and not altogether pleasant. [Haughty]Coffee is an acquired taste after all, we won't be rude and maybe learn to appreciate it in the future.
>>4320120> “Ma Seour, the only aged trait I detect is your wizened mind.” A subtle linguistic trick to indicate sisterly affection, rather than any less platonic approach though it is possible the distinction will be missed one to whom Cantīsh is not their native tongue. You have no intention of even passingly being involved with this outlandish crone. [Haughty] + [Persuasion]> “By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?” You could get used to this stuff. [Hearty]I couldn't mind Emile aquiring a taste for tea.
>>4320120>> “Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You picked that line up from one of your sister's droll books. It worked. It would, quite frankly, be rude to attend the ball escorting someone and not put in the effort of some harmless flirtation. Even with a foreigner. And if affection leads to information, all the better… [Hearty] + [Courtship]>“By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?” You could get used to this stuff. [Hearty]Coffee the true nectar of the gods.
>>4320120> “Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You picked that line up from one of your sister's droll books. It worked. It would, quite frankly, be rude to attend the ball escorting someone and not put in the effort of some harmless flirtation. Even with a foreigner. And if affection leads to information, all the better… [Hearty] + [Courtship]> “My thanks.” Just a sip. Burning hot, and not altogether pleasant. [Haughty]
>>4320119Probably the sultan/vizieror or the magic caste
>>4320120>> “Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You picked that line up from one of your sister's droll books. It worked. It would, quite frankly, be rude to attend the ball escorting someone and not put in the effort of some harmless flirtation. Even with a foreigner. And if affection leads to information, all the better… [Hearty] + [Courtship]> “My thanks.” Just a sip. Burning hot, and not altogether pleasant. [Haughty]Ew, liquid shit.
>>4320120> “Ma Seour, the only aged trait I detect is your wizened mind.” A subtle linguistic trick to indicate sisterly affection, rather than any less platonic approach though it is possible the distinction will be missed one to whom Cantīsh is not their native tongue. You have no intention of even passingly being involved with this outlandish crone. [Haughty] + [Persuasion]> “My thanks.” Just a sip. Burning hot, and not altogether pleasant. [Haughty]
>>4320120(1) Interaction> “Ma Seour, the only aged trait I detect is your wizened mind.” A subtle linguistic trick to indicate sisterly affection, rather than any less platonic approach though it is possible the distinction will be missed one to whom Cantīsh is not their native tongue. You have no intention of even passingly being involved with this outlandish crone. [Haughty] + [Persuasion]> “My thanks.” Just a sip. Burning hot, and not altogether pleasant. [Haughty]I imagine Emille either loves or hates spicy foodI imagine Patrikas sounds like Shohreh Aghdashloo and acts like her character in the expanse
>>4320120> “Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You picked that line up from one of your sister's droll books. It worked. It would, quite frankly, be rude to attend the ball escorting someone and not put in the effort of some harmless flirtation. Even with a foreigner. And if affection leads to information, all the better… [Hearty] + [Courtship]GILF GILF GILF GILF GILF GILF GILF GILF!>“My thanks.” Just a sip. Burning hot, and not altogether pleasant. [Haughty]
>>4320120>> “Ma Seour, the only aged trait I detect is your wizened mind.” A subtle linguistic trick to indicate sisterly affection, rather than any less platonic approach though it is possible the distinction will be missed one to whom Cantīsh is not their native tongue. You have no intention of even passingly being involved with this outlandish crone. [Haughty] + [Persuasion]> “By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?” You could get used to this stuff. [Hearty]
>>4320120>> “Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You picked that line up from one of your sister's droll books. It worked. It would, quite frankly, be rude to attend the ball escorting someone and not put in the effort of some harmless flirtation. Even with a foreigner. And if affection leads to information, all the better… [Hearty] + [Courtship]> “By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?” You could get used to this stuff. [Hearty]
>>4320120> “Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You picked that line up from one of your sister's droll books. It worked. It would, quite frankly, be rude to attend the ball escorting someone and not put in the effort of some harmless flirtation. Even with a foreigner. And if affection leads to information, all the better… [Hearty] + [Courtship]> “My thanks.” Just a sip. Burning hot, and not altogether pleasant. [Haughty]Addictions? Not wholesome
>>4320120>“Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You picked that line up from one of your sister's droll books. It worked. It would, quite frankly, be rude to attend the ball escorting someone and not put in the effort of some harmless flirtation. Even with a foreigner. And if affection leads to information, all the better… [Hearty] + [Courtship]>By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?” You could get used to this stuff. [Hearty]>>4318337Linking previous ID
>>4320120>> “Ma Seour, the only aged trait I detect is your wizened mind.” A subtle linguistic trick to indicate sisterly affection, rather than any less platonic approach though it is possible the distinction will be missed one to whom Cantīsh is not their native tongue. You have no intention of even passingly being involved with this outlandish crone. [Haughty] + [Persuasion]> “By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?” You could get used to this stuff. [Hearty]embrace the coffee
>>4320120> “Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You picked that line up from one of your sister's droll books. It worked. It would, quite frankly, be rude to attend the ball escorting someone and not put in the effort of some harmless flirtation. Even with a foreigner. And if affection leads to information, all the better… [Hearty] + [Courtship]Older librarian glasses woman? That's. My. Fetish. So I gotta be true to it.> “By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?” You could get used to this stuff. [Hearty]
>>4317527Yea, this is me.>>4320310
>>4320120>> “Ma Seour, the only aged trait I detect is your wizened mind.” A subtle linguistic trick to indicate sisterly affection, rather than any less platonic approach though it is possible the distinction will be missed one to whom Cantīsh is not their native tongue. You have no intention of even passingly being involved with this outlandish crone. [Haughty] + [Persuasion]>“None for me, thank you.” Foreign potions? Nice try, witch. [Idealist]
>>4320120> “Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You picked that line up from one of your sister's droll books. It worked. It would, quite frankly, be rude to attend the ball escorting someone and not put in the effort of some harmless flirtation. Even with a foreigner. And if affection leads to information, all the better… [Hearty] + [Courtship]> “By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?” You could get used to this stuff. [Hearty]
>>4320120>“Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You picked that line up from one of your sister's droll books. It worked. It would, quite frankly, be rude to attend the ball escorting someone and not put in the effort of some harmless flirtation. Even with a foreigner. And if affection leads to information, all the better… [Hearty] + [Courtship]> “My thanks.” Just a sip. Burning hot, and not altogether pleasant. [Haughty]This is going to be fun.
>>4320120> “Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You picked that line up from one of your sister's droll books. It worked. It would, quite frankly, be rude to attend the ball escorting someone and not put in the effort of some harmless flirtation. Even with a foreigner. And if affection leads to information, all the better… [Hearty] + [Courtship]Better put thos pick up lines to use.> “By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?” You could get used to this stuff. [Hearty]Time to start andral coffee trading company >>4318560This is me;
Quick question would Emils honour/idealism demand we pay back the bodyguard fee? I could see him thinking it would be, if not dishonourable then at least distasteful to take payment for escorting a lady to the ball.
>>4320120>>> “Ma Seour, the only aged trait I detect is your wizened mind.” A subtle linguistic trick to indicate sisterly affection, rather than any less platonic approach though it is possible the distinction will be missed one to whom Cantīsh is not their native tongue. You have no intention of even passingly being involved with this outlandish crone. [Haughty] + [Persuasion]>>> “By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?” You could get used to this stuff. [Hearty]
>>4320475Hell no.
>>4320475His beening paid to be her bodyguard and it just so happens that she is going to the same ball that he needed to go too.We earn the money by the the sexiest,flirtation bodyguard shes ever had and making sure that she dose not end up dieing.We can finally get that plume
>>4320475No, honest pay for honest work is perfectly honorable. We don't have to impoverished ourselves over this, if we were indebted to them personally it be another matter.
>>4320516We are getting more money than we anticipated. I kind of want to use it custom order a sick as hell Great Bear inspired plate helm, bear faceplate with antlers. That's the shit they write stories about.
>having a fight while we are on injured statusi hope this woman doesn't start shit
>>4320524>Great Bear inspired plate helm, bear faceplate with antlersI approve of the custom order with bear theme, but I'm unsure about the antlers unless we kill with antlers.
>>4320524We can buy the plume we've always wanted, antlers are for gay fae
>>4320549>I approve of the custom order with bear theme, but I'm unsure about the antlersI was just going off the description of Bristlecone that we got when we went to the Elven city in Fallavon. I figured that it would be an good homage to our ancestral roots.
>>4320524As long as it's practical, i was never a fan of ornate armour or swords that are form over function. but i can see Emile going for something with some amount of flair.
>>4320552Fukkin plumes!Although I think bear gauntlets for when we inevitably get disarmed again would be better.
>>4320552Manly plumes gets the womans wet.bear gauntlets im ok with this.Something like this though i hope we could get one looking cooler.
>>4320120>> “Ma Seour, the only aged trait I detect is your wizened mind.” A subtle linguistic trick to indicate sisterly affection, rather than any less platonic approach though it is possible the distinction will be missed one to whom Cantīsh is not their native tongue. You have no intention of even passingly being involved with this outlandish crone. [Haughty] + [Persuasion]>> “My thanks.” Just a sip. Burning hot, and not altogether pleasant. [Haughty]Tighter votes than I thought. Love that idealist option tho.
>>4320664Plate mail gauntlets, at least.
>>4320703It's a shame Forgotten made the best waifu Emile's sister.Then again, this is a Monarchy, right?
>>4320773I'm full on Lady Rabe but big sis is up there
>>4320804Ah, you have good taste.
I think it’s fair to say that I will be discounting 1 post IDs at this point that don’t link back to an earlier vote. Especially on a surprisingly tight vote like this.
>>4320524Seems a bit Pagan for our pious boi I'd support a plume over it.
>>4320871Eyy man I'm >>4320161 and >>4319932 currently going through some bullshit power outages.
>>4320812I have a type, and that type is noble ladies who swear un/intentionally. But Ive said before that a strongwilled, social savvy woman is a good fit for Emile and makes up for his shortcomings. It's unfortunate, but not surprising, that the lady most like Emile's mother so far, is his sister.
I'm a Daubney or Vancewell man myself
>>4320992>spoilerThat's the good stuff right there, bruv. If there was a chance in hell it might be fun to give it a try.Daubney as well, she's got a sort of mystique around her that it's unfortunate we passed on exploring.
>>4321101Ahh I see you are a man of culture tooIt's less Daubneys got mystique and more protecting that smile with Emille's ardent Idealism
>>4320992>>4321107mah kniggas
>>4320359>>4320376>>4320379Jeezus. A couple of minutes apart, all 1 ID posts. Three days up on the board, a little late to try and claim "Oh, I just got here" lol.>>4321101I can only imagine how hilarious the politics would be. It's tempting to go for it just to troll.
>>4320992> All aboard the Rabetrain When will we have a Sister's vignette with Lady Rabe and Roselyn.
>>4321540awful why would you want to inlict that on us? Emille & Damien will be emasculated for eternity!!!I'm kiddingsorta Vancewell & Roselyn would also be kinda horrifying though can you imagine?
>>4320120> Ma Seour [ Haughty ] + [ Persuasion ]12 votes> Ma Belle [ Hearty ] + [ Courtship ]18 votes> My thanks [ Haughty ]12 votes> By the Book, [ Hearty ]14 votes> None for me, thank you.” Foreign potions? Nice try, witch. [ Idealist ]1 votelooks like Emille is going the extra mile for his ''Job''? and has a taste for tea? coffee? spices?
>>4321628coffee is one of those things we might be able to export back properly. If we can get our sis to sample it.
>>4321637I'm guessing it likely has less of a cutthroat market than spices or tea? Like historically but given time could be really popular >tfw when Aubrey Khave shops are Bluejay hotbeds and Emille is responsible
>>4321642Possibly.It's likely that the local pascae merchants have a foothold in the market. A exile for multiple years still having a personal supply? No, its likely its already being exported here.The good thing about tea and coffee is that its a matter of ply-as-much-of-the-stuff-as-you-can-on-your-market. Rather than spices. Which although more expensive pound for pound, ultimately does not require quite as much as compared to a constant supply of tea and coffee.
>>4321628Is that minus the 1 ID votes?
>>4321107A knigga of wealth and taste.>>4320120> “Ma Seour, the only aged trait I detect is your wizened mind.” A subtle linguistic trick to indicate sisterly affection, rather than any less platonic approach though it is possible the distinction will be missed one to whom Cantīsh is not their native tongue. You have no intention of even passingly being involved with this outlandish crone. [Haughty] + [Persuasion]
>>4321653There's probably a Cantonian quarter in the Carthaggi city so probably a bit of A and B in regards to that.also probably cultivatiable in more arid climates like the wastes and the borders of Ardenne if its ever reclaimed though that adimitiddly speculation.>>4321654crap
>>4320139>>4320219>>4320359>>4320376>>4320379Okay Single posts on an unrelated notes a lot of votes are on 2-3 postsTotal ammendment to >>4321628-1 Ma Seour-4 Ma belle-3 By the book-2 My thanksTotalling >Ma Seour 11 votes>Ma Belle14 votes>My thanks10 votes>By the book 11 votes>None for me1 vote>>4321654thanks anon for the reminder
>>4321688>on an unrelated notes a lot of votes are on 2-3 postsSome people only vote and don't chat and we're in the very beginning of the thread so... not surprising
> “Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You picked that line up from one of your sister's droll books. It worked. It would, quite frankly, be rude to attend the ball escorting someone and not put in the effort of some harmless flirtation. Even with a foreigner. And if affection leads to information, all the better… [Hearty] + [Courtship]> “By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?” You could get used to this stuff. [Hearty]============================Courtship Roll>Reasonable Request / Equal Social Standing 60DC>Age & Cultural Difference -20DC>Khave fan +5DC>Soppy Romance Novel +1 Courtship Re-Roll. Single use.>Quality Tabard +5DC, +1 Re-Roll (martial: prospective bodyguard)>Cultural barrier +1 Adverse Re-Roll> 55 DCDouble Failure = It is you, not she, who divulges information.0 Success = The Patrikas is unimpressed with your attempts at flattery. She’s looking for a bodyguard, nothing more. She will flatly discourage any further nonsense. 1 Success = A woman of Ianthe’s maturity has flirted with the best of them. Your youthful sally is cute, but hardly effective. You will have to try much harder.2 Success = The Patrikas is flattered but age, cultural differences and the misplaced concern that you are merely making fun of her prevents Ianthe from being too warm. But you are making progress.3 Success = It has been a long time since young boys have made eyes at Ianthe. She finds you easy to talk to, and wishes to impress you with her knowledge. You could even beg for her favour.Double Success = You glean some idea of the sensitive information she has for the Duke.3 rolls of 1d100. You have TWO re-rolls. Your opponent has ONE adverse re-roll.Matron I'd Like her Favour
Rolled 98 (1d100)>>4321690
Rolled 9 (1d100)>>4321690This will either be hilarious or hilarious
Rolled 89 (1d100)>>4321690
>>4321690can we save the soppy romance reroll?
Rolled 61 (1d100)>>4321693REEEEEEE
>>4321692Truly the Angel is with us
>>4321694up to green knigga
>>4321698We got the double pass from the 9 so I'm saving the roll
>>4321699oh shit you're right nice
>>43216999s are now doublesthanks bro forgot
honestly best outcome got knowledgecame off as kind and youthfulbut didn't break a poor mares heart
>>4321692THE ALMIGHTY ENDORSES MILFSPRAISE!
>inb4 we show discomfort with our injury and she offers to dress the wound
Emille ''the accidental spy'' Andrei
>>4321690Forgotten the re-roll used here >>4321695is the Quality Tabard re-roll, while the re-roll anon saved here >>4321699 is the one time use re-roll, right? What happened to Dame Stoutsworth's re-roll btw?
>>43217099s are doubles knigger and doubles are immune to rerolls
>>4321708canton noire
>>4321710I'm not talking about the adverse re-roll just to be clear. I'm talking about our own re-rolls. Was the one we used the one time use re-roll or the regenerative re-roll?
>>4321709In general I will assume the regenerated re-rolls are used before limited re-rolls.As I recall, Dame Stoutsworth is mainly for intrigue re-rolls. She won't grant a courtship roll to every wench you show her to. So far, with your doubles and that crit with the letter you haven't actually had much cause to use an outright intrigue attempt. I suspect that won't last forever.
>>4321714I thought Dame Stoutsworth grants both an intrigue re-roll and a courtship re-roll since she's an animal familiar but thanks.
Hey fellas, I'm a little tired for an update tonight. But I'll provide one tomorrow morning (ETA 13 hours) and another that night (ETA 24 hours).>>4321721Well that's me told. Glad to have anons keeping my honest.I'll allow either >>4321691 or >>4321695another re-roll (and we'll hold on to the limited re-roll).If you elect to use that re-roll and are successful, I will also be able to attempt an adverse roll.
Rolled 4 (1d100)>>4321730Re-rolling
Rolled 63 (1d100)>>4321735Attempting adverse re-roll
Back where we started after all. See you boys in the morning.
>>4321730>>4321739No prob Forgotten. Sleep well and see you tomorrow.
>>4321739dangit
>>4321688>>4320376Is me, sorry for daring to have my pc freeze and not spamming the thread with these autistic identity linking posts
>>4321793There's really no need for the hostility considering linking back to your post is common practice bud. No one was jumping down your throat about it
>>4321735>>4321737>>4321739I've never really gotten my head around how re-rolls works. Shouldn't it be roll low vs roll low rather than roll low vs roll high?
>>4321816Adverse re-roll Forgotten wants roll above the DC the opposite is required for players
>>4321816Basically he is re-rolling our result. If it's over the DC our result is bad just like it would be if we rolled it. It's like he is reaching out and snatching the dice out of our hands as we roll for something
>he doesn't dress up in his knight costume before reading and voting latest valour updateWhat are you, gay
>>4321739Thats unlucky, iv got a question if we had taken our birdy companion with us to see miss milf would that have donw anything for the dc?Can we still let her know we have him and if she would like to see him.
>>4321836Chad post
Now to fan the flames, on whom should the one time reroll be used on?
>>4321905Well the obvious answer is someone we are genuinely attracted too, however if we choose to engage in something more clandestine I won't complain
>>4321905Im down for useing it right now get the milf.
>>4321689Other people just have shit fucking rural internet.Goddamnit, am I really gonna have to wait for Elon Musk to get good Canadian rural connections?
>>4321836>>4321868Costume? *Kniggas*, please.
>>4321905Save it for Vancewell. Save them all for Vancewell.
>>4321905I'm stuck between Lady Hewitt or Lady Rabe, since the Sinclair ship has sunk. They are both good choices.
>>4321690> 55 DC???60DC-20DC+5DC+5DC=50DCWhat am I missing?
>>4321985The fact that the roll is over and +/-5 doesn't change anything?
>>4322288wtf
>>4322296Pretty shameless way to shill your own quest Prof
>>4322296He jelly.
>>4322296I wounder if thats the guy that has the big ass rants here and should we go there just to call him a fag?
>>4322296Just a shitposter apparently.
Sorry for the delay lads. Update incoming. Vote will remain open for 10 hours.
> 1 Success: A woman of Ianthe’s maturity has flirted with the best of them. Your youthful sally is cute, but hardly effective. You will have to try much harder.> Double Success: You glean some idea of the sensitive information she has for the Duke.“Ma Belle, they say that the flower that blooms longest is the most cherished.” You rip that line straight out of one of your sister’s sappy romance novellas and, quite daring, plant a kiss on the back of the Patrikas Ianthe’s proffered hand.The Patrikas blinks in surprise, before throwing her head back in lilting laughter. “Ahahahaa! Δόντια Δράκου! Forgive me, young man. I am not used to your Cantônian’s… ‘style’ of courtship. Nor did I really expect a virile youth like yourself would try your hand at an old woman like me.”Although directed at you, her light laughter is not an altogether unpleasant sound. You have the good grace to see the humour in your own amateurish flirtations, rather than take offence at the lady’s mirth. From her expression as you sit down and talk over this warm drink, you suspect that your lack of ill-temper at the rejection has done miles more to raise yourself in her opinion than any amount of sweet words of affection.You take another sip of the hot black liquid, realising that you have emptied the cup in not time at all. You blink in surprise, setting the cup down. “By the Book, that was good. What did you call it?”“You like? I shall have another made for you.” With a snap of Ianthe’s fingers a demure young servant girl is summoned, retrieving your empty cup and disappearing into the villa kitchen. She didn’t look like a slave, but with these Cathagi you never know… “In the tongue of my Casta is it called ’Μαύρο νέκταρ’, though it is better colloquially known as ‘Khave’. Have I used this word correctly? ‘Colloquially’?” “I believe you have use it perfectly, my lady. Your Cantīsh does you credit, Patrikas. My sister tells me you have been in exile for nearly a decade now. And that your exile has only been as comfortable as it is due to you selling state secrets.”“You sister, a dangerous woman if I am not mistaken, is for the most part correct.” The twinkle in the sleek matron’s eye tells you that you’re not getting the whole story. Not yet, at any rate. “The things I know are considered valuable by some, this value allows me some small indulgences for a woman in her retirement. Servants, a roof over my head… good khave.”“A perilous good for a woman to trade in. Information, that is.”[1/3]
“Oh, a lot of it is not so forbidden. Much of what I sell to Master Alberto of your Merchanta Caste is public information in my country, anyone with the rank to access the great library could read such things. But some things, recent news from my contacts in the Athenaeum, that kind of information is not suitable for the ears of one of your lower castes. Nor could they afford the price of such goods.”“By ‘lower caste’ I take it you mean ruffians such as myself? I’m no Duke perhaps, but the Andrei line is among the oldest and purest of Romani noble stock.” “I mean no offence, my sweet Μπέμπης. As you Cantonians have Lesser and Greater Nobility so too do we of the Old Empire have Lesser and Greater members of our castes. The things I would speak of, the growing hunger for chained flesh, recent shifts in tide between the Mudasae Sect and the rising star of the Merchanta Caste… it is not for your ears, nor would I try to bore you with it.”What follows is a fairly pleasant discussion over further coffee, predominantly the details of your escort detail and what is expected of you. Most importantly, when you are to be obvious in your presence and when you are to make yourself scarce. Ianthe is a novice to the Pascae Court but clearly no initiate in the games of politics and powerplays, although perhaps her status as exile is a brutally honest indicator of where that lead her at home. You enjoy listening to the accented Cantīsh of the silver-haired minx, though she deftly bats away any further attempts to gain useful information. You leave the villa with a newfound energy entirely at odds with the tolls of the heavy drinking from the night before, veritably buzzing with vim and vigour so late in the day has you wondering whether indeed this ‘Khave’ is some kind of foreign potion after all. A potion of vitality, perhaps. You’ll have to see about sending Orin to the markets to pick up some more.[2/3]
[3/3]You pause, the dipping Pascae sunset warm on your back, and think carefully. The Patrikas Ianthe was not an unpleasant woman, but she clearly thought of you as a young endearing fool. She could not have known of your dalliance with the clandestine in the past, or that the information she withheld would be of extreme interest to you. And extremely pricey, if you are to guess. If the information is valuable to the Duke, it must certainly be of like value to your family. It could also be relevant to your slaver case. Normally you would never even consider such a thing. But the stakes are high and this pertinent information… you -must- know more, especially if it explains the prevalence of slaver activity and where this all leads. Even if it means overseeing more… direct means of acquiring such delicate information. The woman is off-limits, of course. You are no cad. But she must have been letters from her Cathagi contacts. If you could somehow acquire those…====================================================================>It would be downright unchivalrous to consider ordering the burglary of a woman who you agreed to escort, and who you attempted to court just a few minutes ago. Even a foreign woman. You will take only what information is freely offered, to do anything else would be ungentlemanly. [Haughty]>You have by no means established whether the Duke could sympathetic, or even actively involved with, the machinations of the Faction. You should set your people on those consorting with the Duke, see if the Patrikas’ info will be falling into the wrong hands. [Hearty]> The fate of Cantonian freemen is potentially at stake. Next to that the personal property rights of a foreign woman pale in comparison. You will have your most trusted minions retrieve some evidence of what the Patrikas spoke of, hopefully this will be the break you needed in the slaver case. [Idealist]
>>4322974>It would be downright unchivalrous to consider ordering the burglary of a woman who you agreed to escort, and who you attempted to court just a few minutes ago. Even a foreign woman. You will take only what information is freely offered, to do anything else would be ungentlemanly. [Haughty]
>>4322974This is bad. We dont have anyone particularly suited for this.Any breakin will require the letters not merely read but stolen as we will need them translated.And few of our companions are that adept at socialising to get into the graces of the duke. Not unless sending our sister is an option.
>>4322969>and the rising star of the Merchanta CasteDID SOMEONE NEED TO KICK SOME COPPER CLIPPER ASS? We should regale her with our own woes fighting against Merchants and bitch about how they have the best weapons but rarely the skill or will to wield them properly.Also namedrop our Recommendation to the DG.We could mention that we are thinking of taking it up, and therefore we could help later with her return to Cathagi - or if we decide against it, perhaps we could pass it on to someone with kind intentions towards her.In exchange, she could help us round up this slaver ring.>It would be downright unchivalrous to consider ordering the burglary of a woman who you agreed to escort, and who you attempted to court just a few minutes ago. Even a foreign woman. You will take only what information is freely offered, to do anything else would be ungentlemanly. [Haughty]Just openly approach her about it.
>>4323012>>4322974
>>4323012FYI I am 100% pro-Dragon Guard.
>>4322974>> The fate of Cantonian freemen is potentially at stake. Next to that the personal property rights of a foreign woman pale in comparison. You will have your most trusted minions retrieve some evidence of what the Patrikas spoke of, hopefully this will be the break you needed in the slaver case. [Idealist]
>>4322974>>It would be downright unchivalrous to consider ordering the burglary of a woman who you agreed to escort, and who you attempted to court just a few minutes ago. Even a foreign woman. You will take only what information is freely offered, to do anything else would be ungentlemanly. [Haughty]> write-inLet it be known to her that we intend to take up a period of service with the Dragonroi, show her the letter for good measure. If she can reveal information to us and perhaps prep us for our time in her old home, we can also exchange letters with her from our posting, keeping her abreast of the latest happenings from the heart of their kingdom.Hmm. Probably the best option.Approach her openly, treat with her as an equal with things we both wish for and can offer. It would likely also gain us some respect in her eyes if we do this and can also bring something to the table to trade.
>>4323012>>4322974This makes sense and leaves it open whether we join the dragonguard or not. It also might lead to allies during our time in Carthag.+1 support.
>>4320315This is me>>4323055> technically sfw but I don't wanna risk it> https://static1.e621.net/data/0f/06/0f0624e50cd7c2aa3d683b0a41a1849b.gif
>>4322974>You have by no means established whether the Duke could sympathetic, or even actively involved with, the machinations of the Faction. You should set your people on those consorting with the Duke, see if the Patrikas’ info will be falling into the wrong hands. [Hearty]>It would be downright unchivalrous to consider ordering the burglary of a woman who you agreed to escort, and who you attempted to court just a few minutes ago. Even a foreign woman. You will take only what information is freely offered, to do anything else would be ungentlemanly. [Haughty]Well this should be interesting, Carthaggi seems to have a spike in slave trade as well as a shifting dynamic in Medusae caste AND some copperclippers rising to prominence interesting.>>4323012I swear the only thing worse than a copperclipper is a Heathen slaving copperclipper
>>4323064I'm all for librarian sex, but how is this sfw?
>>4323081Technically no genitals or erogenous zones showing.
>>4323078Marry, Fuck, KillHeathen, Slaver, Copperclipper.Who do you pick for what? "Kill all" is not a valid choice.
>>4322974>It would be downright unchivalrous to consider ordering the burglary of a woman who you agreed to escort, and who you attempted to court just a few minutes ago. Even a foreign woman. You will take only what information is freely offered, to do anything else would be ungentlemanly. [Haughty]>Approach her openly and namedrop our Recommendation to the DG.I’m fully pro joining the DG for a stint as well.>>4320219Linking previous ID
>>4322974>You have by no means established whether the Duke could sympathetic, or even actively involved with, the machinations of the Faction. You should set your people on those consorting with the Duke, see if the Patrikas’ info will be falling into the wrong hands. [Hearty>>4320408This is me;
>>4323081I mean, I've seen things on Mexican TV way more graphic so I guess it depends where you live.
>>4323091Fuck the heathen, kill the slaver, marry the copperclipper
>>4322974>>You have by no means established whether the Duke could sympathetic, or even actively involved with, the machinations of the Faction. You should set your people on those consorting with the Duke, see if the Patrikas’ info will be falling into the wrong hands. [Hearty]
>>4323087sfw entails that it would not be harmful to watch at work.Hence "safe for work"that is just porn.
>>4322974>>It would be downright unchivalrous to consider ordering the burglary of a woman who you agreed to escort, and who you attempted to court just a few minutes ago. Even a foreign woman. You will take only what information is freely offered, to do anything else would be ungentlemanly. [Haughty]With this write-in too.>>4323039We haven't been running our mouth much about joining the Dragon Guard, but it is a relatively common thing for young knights to go and serve if they have a recommendation. Showing this level of interest in her homeland might be adding more leverage for further inroads with the Patrikas, either political lewd or otherwise. Plus, shared distaste for copperclippers of all stripes is automatically a point in her favour. It's not like we have anyone really capable at skulduggery or courtly intrigue in our retinue yet.
>>4323091Fuck up copperclippersKill slaversMarry heathen Knightfu
>>4323091Marry Heathen, Fuck Slaver, Kill Copperclipper.Marrying a heathen pulls them into the light of the Almighty's blessing, Slavers don't deserve His love, and Copperclippers are better off dead than scrabbling in the gutters for the off-cuttings of their pennies. It's a stern, but required mercy.
>>4323116That's kinda tripe the last three or four threads have had at least one or two discussions about it and the "discussion" around it's happened for longer
>>4322974>You have by no means established whether the Duke could sympathetic, or even actively involved with, the machinations of the Faction. You should set your people on those consorting with the Duke, see if the Patrikas’ info will be falling into the wrong hands. [Hearty]>It would be downright unchivalrous to consider ordering the burglary of a woman who you agreed to escort, and who you attempted to court just a few minutes ago. Even a foreign woman. You will take only what information is freely offered, to do anything else would be ungentlemanly. [Haughty]Disgusting. These slavers will pay
I guess the major question we should ask ourselves is why is the Duke interested in the Carthaggi affairs is it just in the interest of trade or is their something more at play?
>>4323273I mean, how could he not be interested regardless.
>>4323124>>4323118Y'alls know "Fuck" means sex, right?But I like the explaining done here >>4323124Even if I disagree.
>>4323286Well to play advocacy its Carthaggi, events there are not always going to carry consequence to Pascae and events in Canton could be more important.
>>4323297But this is a major port, where Carthaggi, Norsikaan, Langlish, and Canton interests collide. Gotta stay on top of all that to turn a profit not just in the present, but to create future profits.
>>4322974It would be downright unchivalrous to consider ordering the burglary of a woman who you agreed to escort, and who you attempted to court just a few minutes ago. Even a foreign woman. You will take only what information is freely offered, to do anything else would be ungentlemanly. [Haughty]
>>4323312Yes I discard the natural interest in trade though because its a given that any well interested or savvy duke will be interested up to a point about the effect on trade.
>>4322974>>4323012I'll back this
>>4322974>>It would be downright unchivalrous to consider ordering the burglary of a woman who you agreed to escort, and who you attempted to court just a few minutes ago. Even a foreign woman. You will take only what information is freely offered, to do anything else would be ungentlemanly. [Haughty]
>>4322974Tally>It would be downright unchivalrous [ Haughty ]11 votes (2 secondary, 4 write-in supports, 1 without greentext)>You have by no means [ Hearty ]5 votes> The fate of Cantonian freemen [ Idealist ] 1 voteLooks like Emille priortising MILF/Chivalry over Immediate investigation is the routeare these Tallies actually helping forgotten?>>4322979>>4323093Single posts not linking to previous ID>>4323078mine own post for reference
>>4323390I'd be surprised if he doesn't still check for himself just to make sure no shenanigans are afoot
>>4323391yeah I can't fault secondguessing but I just hope this helps smooths things along
>>4322974>>It would be downright unchivalrous to consider ordering the burglary of a woman who you agreed to escort, and who you attempted to court just a few minutes ago. Even a foreign woman. You will take only what information is freely offered, to do anything else would be ungentlemanly. [Haughty]and these>>4323012>>4323039
>>4323390I still have to count them and check IDs myself, so the tally is a tad redundant. Reminding me of the DC factors I forget as we go definitely is helpful though.
>It would be downright unchivalrous to consider ordering the burglary of a woman who you agreed to escort, and who you attempted to court just a few minutes ago. Even a foreign woman. You will take only what information is freely offered, to do anything else would be ungentlemanly. [Haughty] But you will ask her openly tomorrow at the BallYou smirk humourlessly at your own consideration of ordering any such foolishness. Ianthe, a women of good breeding and manners despite her slaver background, has given you no cause to pry any further into her business without her consent. As for the Duke, well… you know better than most the old adage ‘rouse not the sleeping bear’. For all his tolerance of foreign trade and foreign coin, you have no inclination to get on the Duke Pascae’s bad side. You’re treading on enough toes in this city as it is…No, you will do the job you have been assigned to do and not indulge in any skulduggery. Especially not against the woman who is technically your charge. If you wish to press her for information that can be done through another face-to-face meeting. Over khave.The street leading right from the Patrikas’ villa leads to your current residence in the city. You ignore it, turning left instead into the shadier part of town. Downhill. To the docks.[1/2]
[2/2]You hand your tabard over to Jess the Kid when you arrive, no need to give more of the game away than strictly necessary. “Has our guest said anything of use?” Brother Rousseau shrugs in response to your question. You note the man has covered his white cloak in an altogether shabbier version, doubtless a Knights Comitas kidnapping people off the street could have undesirable effects on the order’s reputation. “I suppose even if he did neither of you would be in much position to tell me. He’s had time enough to think on his position at any rate. Take me to him.”Jimmy the Lie lies tied to a chair in the dimly lit warehouse. Your nose wrinkles at a stench as you enter the room, the man has soiled himself. Piss drips from his trouser leg, any semblance of bravado seems to have long drained from the man. Jimmy the Lie is scared, no doubt. But a man like Jimmy the Lie knows full well that talking about his business would make him a corpse at the hand of his masters within the week as surely a noose around his neck would make him a corpse now. Jimmy the Lie may be scared, but he might not be more scared of you than he is whoever holds his leash.The man is a pimp, a lowlife. The most sordid sort of scum that there is to be found in the underbelly of this city and, if the Nightwatch is to be believed, a trafficker in children for perverse pleasures. If there was ever any individual you met in your life that deserved to be put the question with iron, it is he. Except perhaps for the false knight Vancewell, but he at least has since paid for his crimes.You contemplate the darker side of your nature that would genuinely enjoy harming this man, questions be damned. Even if the lives of future potential victims, children, were not at stake.======================================================(1) Stance on torture> “You are already well-acquainted with my companions. Violent sorts, when the mood strikes them. Or when ordered. I trust you will not make such measures necessary.” You will imply harm to the man should he hold his tongue or speak falsely, but no more than that. With a criminal of his ilk, that should be sufficient. [Haughty]> “The masked individual to your left has a number of sharp instruments, tools of the trade. If you lie, or are slow to answer, my companion will begin using them.” This man is the lowest of the low, and his information could directly save more worthy lives. The tools are there and, if necessary, you will make use of them. [Hearty]> “I don’t think I need to stress the precariousness of your position. Answer my questions and you will leave unharmed. You have my word.” You have decided that you have no taste for the art of torture, even when inflicted upon those arguably most deserving of it. [Idealist] (2) Write-in > Questions
>>4323495>“I don’t think I need to stress the precariousness of your position. Answer my questions and you will leave unharmed. You have my word.” You have decided that you have no taste for the art of torture, even when inflicted upon those arguably most deserving of it. [Idealist]Any information or confession obtained through torture will be invalid in a court trial, so we will not be able use it as evidence. Remember that we're supposed to apply the Law of Adam on behalf of the Praetors. There's also the fact that we straight up kidnapped this man.
>>4323495> “The masked individual to your left has a number of sharp instruments, tools of the trade. If you lie, or are slow to answer, my companion will begin using them.” This man is the lowest of the low, and his information could directly save more worthy lives. The tools are there and, if necessary, you will make use of them. [Hearty]I'll leave the questions for the cleverer anons but I'd like to add that whilst threatening him, or attempting to ply answers, we should hint that he need not die, here or otherwise. Suggest that if he answers truthfully, we'll give him coin to survive and smuggle him out of the city as long as he promises to find a new trade.Obviously we wont, he is the lowest scum, but a glimmer of hope might do wonders to open his mouth>Any information or confession obtained through torture will be invalid in a court trialI don't think that's true at all in Canton
>>4323498Meant to link to you in my previous post. I might be wrong but I don't think there is anything preventing using information gained via torture to convict someone in this world. I think it's even pretty common practice with the lower classes or anyone thought to have committed a particularly bad crime
>>4323495>> “You are already well-acquainted with my companions. Violent sorts, when the mood strikes them. Or when ordered. I trust you will not make such measures necessary.” You will imply harm to the man should he hold his tongue or speak falsely, but no more than that. With a criminal of his ilk, that should be sufficient. [Haughty]I want to say something along the lines of ''the only thing stopping me from beating you within an inch of this world & the allmighty is you have information of a wretched nature for me''I think we should frame this as he is already dead, the difference is how painful we or his masters make it and right now we can make it EXCEEDINGLY VIOLENT and PAINFULQuestions>People with an extreme appetite for violent deviancy even among his clients>''Odd'' characters around or visiting the Brothel maybe someone who chickened out or was banned for taking things too far?>Members of the clergy as clients? if so who and do they exhibit strange tendencys >Nobles or scholars as clients? if so who and do they exhibit strange tendencys >Anyone who could be involved in the murders>Any night owls with a particularly sharp demeanour>>4323498>Any information or confession obtained through torture will be invalid in a court trialPascae may be civilised but I highly doubt thats the case.
>>4323495>> “The masked individual to your left has a number of sharp instruments, tools of the trade. If you lie, or are slow to answer, my companion will begin using them.” This man is the lowest of the low, and his information could directly save more worthy lives. The tools are there and, if necessary, you will make use of them. [Hearty]
>>4323499>>I'll leave the questions for the cleverer anons but I'd like to add that whilst threatening him, or attempting to ply answers, we should hint that he need not die, here or otherwise. Suggest that if he answers truthfully, we'll give him coin to survive and smuggle him out of the city as long as he promises to find a new trade.>Obviously we wont, he is the lowest scum, but a glimmer of hope might do wonders to open his mouthThis is a straight up lie and will break our His Word Speaks Only Truth code again when we've just had penance for breaking it already. Breaking it a second time won't simply incur the consequence of having to just do penance again. It will likely lock us from taking it again.>Meant to link to you in my previous post. I might be wrong but I don't think there is anything preventing using information gained via torture to convict someone in this world. I think it's even pretty common practice with the lower classes or anyone thought to have committed a particularly bad crimeThe central head figure of Canton's religion (Salve Regina) is literally a victim of torture. Canton's law is the law of her son, Adam. He would not deem torture to be an acceptable method under his law especially after what happened to his own mother. The Praetors are an aligned Adam order.Emile is a devout knight of Slave Regina, the Mother of Mercy. He can easily see the utter hypocrisy of claiming to be a man of Salve Regina's faith while practicing torture like the slavers practiced it on her.
>>4323512I'll give it to you that I totally forgot about the oaths, it's been a while.>Canton's law is the law of her son, Adam. He would not deem torture to be an acceptable method under his law especially after what happened to his own mother.I am almost certain you are wrong. In the thread where we caught that criminal spying on us for the bandits in the forest there was talk of torturing him for information. It was made clear that whilst grisly, it was acceptable and even performed by knights. We chose not to do it, but it was implied that our brother and others were familiar with the necessity.
>>4323512Pastebin says we've only taken the following>"His Blade Defends the Helpless">"His Heart Knows Only Virtue>"His Might Upholds The Weak"so unless I'm missing something it should not apply to us yet.>The central head figure of Canton's religion (Salve Regina) is literally a victim of tortureand the Order dedicated to her representative on earth were more than willing to engage in the act to elicit information from suspected bluejays or straight up innocent men in their expedition into Fallavon.>Canton's law is the law of her son, Adam. He would not deem torture to be an acceptable method under his lawPlease cite specifically were you got this information I'd like to see it myself because beyond a vague ''civilised society is ruled by the law of adam'' I have no idea what the laws of adam constitute
>>4323495>> “I don’t think I need to stress the precariousness of your position. Answer my questions and you will leave unharmed. You have my word.” You have decided that you have no taste for the art of torture, even when inflicted upon those arguably most deserving of it. [Idealist]Given the state of the man i don't think torture is necessary, but given the wording he only avoids it if he gives us answers. Maybe go good cop on him, after the two creepy mutes, somebody willing to talk and tell you what the hell is going on must be a god send.> QuestionsHas any of the Johns told his "workers" anything about a slave ring or had a sudden influx of exotic coin. Did any of the murdered whores have anything in common? Appearance, age, clients, origin or strong/lacking faith?Ask about Lazar, something called the shard, who hired labour the excavation, if any of his clients are priest who went on a trip and came back "different".
>>4323506>I want to say something along the lines of ''the only thing stopping me from beating you within an inch of this world & the allmighty is you have information of a wretched nature for me''>I think we should frame this as he is already dead, the difference is how painful we or his masters make it and right now we can make it EXCEEDINGLY VIOLENT and PAINFULThis will not work on someone who knows he will die either way. He has no reason to reveal any true information. Torture itself is an ineffective method of gathering information. Even the CIA admit that it's ineffective and doesn't yield results.>FM 34-52 Intelligence Interrogation, the United States Army field manual, explains that torture "is a poor technique that yields unreliable results, may damage subsequent collection efforts, and can induce the source to say what he thinks the interrogator wants to hear."Not only is torture ineffective at gathering reliable information, but it also increases the difficulty of gathering information from a source in the future.>>4323519That was in Fallavon where the law is pretty much whatever the hell the lord deems it to be. That has nothing to do with Adam's Law or whether torture is acceptable under it. Also, where is it said that torture is an acceptable method to interrogate crime suspects to gather information? Robert Gilbern is the only I can think who used torture, but he was torturing beastmen who don't Adam's Law applied to them (even though it is forbidden to enslave them). He's a Reginate. They're outside the law and carry extrajudicial executions.
>>4323549>Torture itself is an ineffective method of gathering information. Even the CIA admit that it's ineffective and doesn't yield results.Mate this game is not real life>That was in Fallavon where the law is pretty much whatever the hell the lord deems it to beFallavon still adheres to Cantons laws, they're just stricter and punishments are harsher.>That has nothing to do with Adam's Law or whether torture is acceptable under it.I'm too tired to delve the archives for this, although I'm sure it's been at least implied. Hopefully Forgotten can give us an answer as to what Emile knows to be true of the laws surrounding torture.
>>4323523>Sworn to valour thread #19 >Breached ‘His Word Speaks Only Truth’ -10DCNever mind I clearly forgot we actually took it.>>4323549So the alternative is we rely on his good will to tell us the truth? that hardly seems better in fact I'd rather prefer torture meta be damned that the information may be unreliable, this man runs a buisness for Pedophiles and god knows what other debasments for profit.>Robert Gilbern is the only I can think who used torture, but he was torturing beastmen who don't Adam's Law applied to themThe Expedition lead by the order Reginae tortured Men who we specifically came across for information regarding the Bluejays and the ruins.
>>4323523What you're missing is that you can break Knight's Codes even if you didn't take them. Forgotten locked it and told us that we broke it. We didn't unlock it until we did penance for breaking it.>and the Order dedicated to her representative on earth were more than willing to engage in the act to elicit information from suspected bluejays or straight up innocent men in their expedition into Fallavon.Where did the Knights Comitas engage in torture? It was only us and our companions.>Please cite specifically were you got this information I'd like to see it myself because beyond a vague ''civilised society is ruled by the law of adam'' I have no idea what the laws of adam constitueWe got Path of Adam for not to torturing the scout and promising him protection if he revealed the truth. We got Path of Cain and Path of Thorns for torturing the bandits.
>>4323560yeah I realise that now as per >>4323558>Where did the Knights Comitas engage in torture? It was only us and our companions.Not Knight Comitas, Order reginae the ones whos duties specifically revolve around exacting the will of the Queen who is Salve reginaes representative in Canton and the world>We got Path of Adam for not to torturing the scout yeah I'm not actually disputing mercy or an aversion of torture being something far closer aligned closer Adam than Cain or thorns I'm asking specifically for a cition on what the law of adam strictly is.
>>4323553>Mate this game is not real lifeWhich applies real life logic. There's no difference between real life torture and the torture here.>Fallavon still adheres to Cantons laws, they're just stricter and punishments are harsher.Fallavon adheres to its own law and the law of it's own lords. It has been stated many times that Fallavon's law is draconian compared to the law of other duchies which are very different.>>4323558>So the alternative is we rely on his good will to tell us the truth? that hardly seems better in fact I'd rather prefer torture meta be damned that the information may be unreliableThe alternative is to give him an incentivising reason to reveal the truth. Promising his sentence to be something other than execution for example in exchange for true information and helping us in our investigation.
>>4323495> “The masked individual to your left has a number of sharp instruments, tools of the trade. If you lie, or are slow to answer, my companion will begin using them.” This man is the lowest of the low, and his information could directly save more worthy lives. The tools are there and, if necessary, you will make use of them. [Hearty]Write-ins"I care little for the secrets of perverted nobles and filthy merchants that your bosses would kill you for revealing. I'm tracking one particular individual who brought unwanted attention and harm to your business by mutilating the children you hold in thrall. Tell me about that incident. ">Did he had the appearance of a priest or was accompany by one?>He may have acted strangely and repeat the say word without making sense.>Were members of the Golden Sun Company among your clients? When did they came last? what were their names?>Who are there local assosiates? >Have there been other recent clients who have similarly exceeded the standards of your den of depravity?
>>4323570>Not Knight Comitas, Order reginae the ones whos duties specifically revolve around exacting the will of the Queen who is Salve reginaes representative in Canton and the worldThe Order Reginae are a secular order. They're neither an Adam aligned nor are they representatives of Salve Regina. I think you're confusing the Queen with Salve Regina. The Queen doesn't give a damn about being the representative of Salve Regina, the Mother of Mercy. The Queen ordered every single witness to what happened in the ruins to be killed without exception.>yeah I'm not actually disputing mercy or an aversion of torture being something far closer aligned closer Adam than Cain or thorns I'm asking specifically for a cition on what the law of adam strictly is.The Law of Adam is the law created by Adam. We can ask the Adam aligned Praetors for details if you want.
> another 'le morality' episodeffs Forgotten these became stale after the third shitstorm.>>4323495> “You are already well-acquainted with my companions. Violent sorts, when the mood strikes them. Or when ordered. I trust you will not make such measures necessary.” You will imply harm to the man should he hold his tongue or speak falsely, but no more than that. With a criminal of his ilk, that should be sufficient. [Haughty]Hopefully this isn't considered a lie. I'll leave the questions to more interested Anons.
>>4323593>I think you're confusing the Queen with Salve Regina. The Queen doesn't give a damn about being the representative of Salve Regina, the Mother of Mercy. The Queen ordered every single witness to what happened in the ruins to be killed without exception.Dude Sworn to valour #1 Forgottens own words >The Queen is technically the Head of Church in Canton, bearing the title Mater Reginaethe queen is the rather litreally the head of the church she is the female pope for all intents and purposes, its part of the reason why the position of queen has as much political power as she does to commonly contend openly with the king, the Order Reginae is specifically tied to the queen as her bodyguard, they are as far from secular as they get.The fact she is implicated as the Authority the order Reginae were acting on should have terrible implications for what kind of person is leading the church.That aside I imagine the technical aspect of the quote is that their may be a solid case for Salve reginae and the queen not being related but that information is lacking at present to draw conclusionsShit Sworn to valour #4 covers why>the members of the Order Reginae often benefit from the Queens long reaching immunity to most Canton laws. Execution of a noble before their appeal was heard would be considered murder in Romaine… unless it was carried out at the bidding of the Queen.The only reason the Order reginae are able to act in paralegal way is because of their rather extensive cover from the law as an extention of the queens Authority.>The Law of Adam is the law created by Adam. We can ask the Adam aligned Praetors for details if you want.I believe that may be in order, but I'd suggest actually saying it precludes anything until we have a solid understanding of it and any nuance that can provide regarding it.
>>4323611>The Queen is technically the Head of Church in Canton, bearing the title Mater ReginaeI don't understand how this is supposed to be against what I said? The fact that the Queen is the temporal head of the Canton's Church doesn't make her Salve Regina. The Pope isn't Jesus Christ.>The fact she is implicated as the Authority the order Reginae were acting on should have terrible implications for what kind of person is leading the church.Again, the Order Reginae have nothing to do with Salve Regina or Adam. It is literally stated in the pastebin that they're a secular order. They are the Queen's agents, nothing more, nothing less.>The members of the Order Reginae often benefit from the Queens long reaching immunity to most Canton laws. Execution of a noble before their appeal was heard would be considered murder in Romaine… unless it was carried out at the bidding of the Queen.Yeah, which is exactly what I said. They're an order outside the Law of Adam who carry out extrajudicial killings. >I believe that may be in order, but I'd suggest actually saying it precludes anything until we have a solid understanding of it and any nuance that can provide regarding it.The Path of Adam gives a very good understanding of the Law of Adam.
>>4323580Support.
>>4323618I never said she WAS salve reginae I said she was the reginae's representative you know this I quoted it at you.>Again, the Order Reginae have nothing to do with Salve Regina or Adam. It is literally stated in the pastebin that they're a secular order. They are the Queen's agents, nothing more, nothing less.And that supposed secularism is immediatlly compromised by the fact her power, position & authority are derived from theocratic means as head of the church which is not secular by definition why its even labeled as such is obscene in contradiction.
>>4323634>I never said she WAS salve reginae I said she was the reginae's representative you know this I quoted it at you.Where is it stated that the Queen is the representative of Salve Regina and not just the head of Canton's Church? Even if she is the representative of Salve Regina, the Mother of Mercy, she has clearly shirked that duty in that role by her actions such as in the ruins (which Emile knows of).>And that supposed secularism is immediatlly compromised by the fact her power, position & authority are derived from theocratic means as head of the church which is not secular by definition why its even labeled as such is obscene in contradiction.It is not supposed. It is literally stated in the pastebin that they're a secular order. Your own personal disagreements on what should be considered secular are irrelevant.
>>4323495>> “You are already well-acquainted with my companions. Violent sorts, when the mood strikes them. Or when ordered. I trust you will not make such measures necessary.” You will imply harm to the man should he hold his tongue or speak falsely, but no more than that. With a criminal of his ilk, that should be sufficient. [Haughty]
>>4323495>“The masked individual to your left has a number of sharp instruments, tools of the trade. If you lie, or are slow to answer, my companion will begin using them.” This man is the lowest of the low, and his information could directly save more worthy lives. The tools are there and, if necessary, you will make use of them. [Hearty]Also I like this >>4323580
>>4323643Okay I may have mussed it a little but here we are from Sworn to Valour #15>The Queen is the Almighty’s representative among the living, a splinter of the divine Salve Reginae ordained by the heavens to rule. So its more the case she is the Almighty's representative and has a possession of Salve Reginae's divine right within her [/spoiler]Is this where a kings divine right to rule comes from in Canton?[/spoiler]>Muh secularI will concede that I am actually wrong on this as a secondary definition of secular is in a clergical sense ''not subject to or bound by religious rule; not belonging to or living in a monastic or other order''Today I learned something
>>4323495>> “The masked individual to your left has a number of sharp instruments, tools of the trade. If you lie, or are slow to answer, my companion will begin using them.” This man is the lowest of the low, and his information could directly save more worthy lives. The tools are there and, if necessary, you will make use of them. [Hearty]>People with an extreme appetite for violent deviancy even among his clients>Members of the clergy as clients? if so who and do they exhibit violent tendencys>Nobles or scholars as clients? if so who and do they exhibit violent tendencys>''Odd'' characters around or visiting the Brothel maybe someone who was banned for taking things too far?
>>4323495(1) Stance on torture> “You are already well-acquainted with my companions. Violent sorts, when the mood strikes them. Or when ordered. I trust you will not make such measures necessary.” You will imply harm to the man should he hold his tongue or speak falsely, but no more than that. With a criminal of his ilk, that should be sufficient. [Haughty]I will leave thr questions to some one smarter then me.
>>4323495> “I don’t think I need to stress the precariousness of your position. Answer my questions and you will leave unharmed. You have my word. Should you persist in betraying not just Canton, but the Almighty, then I shall be forced to do my duty and inflict upon you indignity of the body for the sake of your soul. In the end, eventually, you WILL repent.” You have decided that you have no taste for the art of torture, even when inflicted upon those arguably most deserving of it, but if you are given no choice then you shall not shirk. The Angel walks with you after all. [Idealist] This guy works with psychos? We should start in with the angel talk. Mention our concern for his immortal soul, that the transient tortures of the flesh are not to be concerned about.Strip off our shirt and show him our lightning scar, talk about how we have been touched by the power of the Almighty.Implore him to recant while he still can, that we are hunting an evil that goes beyond the scope of Humanity and has entered the realm of the Foe. Not just murder, but *ritual* murder.If he still resists, then we can go on to torture while apologizing the while for your inability to convince him otherwise.
>>4323674I was pretty sure the King was married to the Salvae Regina, just that she isn't the OG Regina but the inheritor of the role, elected from within the Church specifically to marry the next King and thereby keep Church and State united.
>>4323495> “The masked individual to your left has a number of sharp instruments, tools of the trade. If you lie, or are slow to answer, my companion will begin using them.” This man is the lowest of the low, and his information could directly save more worthy lives. The tools are there and, if necessary, you will make use of them. [Hearty]>>4323580We can start with these questions
>>4323495> “The masked individual to your left has a number of sharp instruments, tools of the trade. If you lie, or are slow to answer, my companion will begin using them.” This man is the lowest of the low, and his information could directly save more worthy lives. The tools are there and, if necessary, you will make use of them. [Hearty]>People with an extreme appetite for violent deviancy even among his clients>''Odd'' characters around or visiting the Brothel maybe someone who chickened out or was banned for taking things too far?>Members of the clergy as clients? if so who and do they exhibit strange tendencys >Nobles or scholars as clients? if so who and do they exhibit strange tendencys >Anyone who could be involved in the murders>Any night owls with a particularly sharp demeanourI'm open to making the offer to let him go peacefully first before resorting to torture, though.
From a strictly legal sense, torture has been used to glean confessions across Canton. Bibles are typically exempt from such practices, and Pascae has more legal protections for commoners than most. Adam obviously had a dim view of the practice, but either this area of law was not well established before his martyrdom or centuries of practicality have blurred any prohibitions on the practice when it comes to criminals.But remember, neither your kidnapping nor interrogation of this man has been undertaken with the official sanction of the Ordo Praetor. You have been operating strictly off the grid here.
>>4324182*Nobles are typically exempt
>>4323580Supporting this
>>4324182Can we bring in Father Towbray to hear the guys confession before we kill him?
>>4324592No one must know what we have been doing as its illegal.
>>4324609> Not trusting Father TowbrayHe follows a higher law.
>>4324628He probs going to burn down the hole
>>4324633Are we opposed to that?
>>4324640I wpuld rather we tell the lawbringer kinghts and have them do it.
>>4324763But if the only option was burning it or not burning it? If the Lawbringer Knights refused?
>>4324792Would love to see it burn down but would want all the bad people taken down instand of them just runing away and starting all back up again.
>>4324937I mean regardless of if we follow or disregard the law some or most of these cockroaches are going to get away largely unscathed due to privliege or copperclipper bullshit.
>>4324977Well we could rile up fanatical mob and burn the place down if the church acepts that we are blessed by an angel
>>4324937That's why you lock the doors before setting the fire.>>4325019You get it.
>>4325056But all the kids are going to be in there.
>>4325094>even when not playing prince the orphans still die
So, Sir Emile Andrei, the ''honourable'', ''just'', and ''good'' knight, will abduct people from the street and torture them, eh? So much for being a devout man I guess. This is like someone claiming to be a man of Christ while crucifying people at the same time.
>>4325131>This is like someone claiming to be a man of Christ while crucifying people at the same time.You uh... might want to read a history book homie
>>4325131its the duality of humanity I guess
>>4325131As forgotten once said.A Great Knight does not mean A Good Knight.
>>4325131emilie isn't some one dimensional character he was quite disgusted by the goings on in the "hole" so to say he's above treating trash like trash is reaching this man peddles in children the most innocent of the innocent if gods fury and an eternity in hell are reserved for any it would be for men like him
> “The masked individual to your left has a number of sharp instruments, tools of the trade. If you lie, or are slow to answer, my companion will begin using them.” This man is the lowest of the low, and his information could directly save more worthy lives. The tools are there and, if necessary, you will make use of them. [Hearty]GAIN +1 Step on the Path of Cain [9]GAIN +2 Steps on the Path of Thorns [6]Unlocked new Path of Thorns trait!(6) The Weak Should Fear the Strong: If you hold the DC advantage in combat gain +1 Combat Re-Roll.>Questions-Did he have the appearance of a priest or was accompany by one?-He may have acted strangely and repeat the same word without making sense.-Were members of the Golden Sun Company among your clients? When did they came last? what were their names? Very good.-Who are there local associates?-Have there been other recent clients who have similarly exceeded the standards of your den of depravity?=========================================================================> Unreasonable Request / Higher Social Standing 40DC> Wealth +5DC> Attire +0 (Tabard removed)> Noble Privilege +1 Re-Roll> Torture +10DC, +2 Re-Roll, +1 Adverse Re-Roll>Write-in (murderer focus) +15DC> 70DCDouble Fail = Under duress. A man will say anything when tortured. Some information is false.0 = Jimmy the Lie was either surprisingly brave or, more likely, genuinely knew nothing. This was especially unfortunate for him, given the nature of the interrogation. Body found floating by the docks…1 = Jimmy the Lie talks, but he has little useful to say. Most of the information ripped from him is of dubious reliability. His extremities have seen better times, but he’ll live. If you decide to allow it.2 = Jimmy the Lie, after some persuasion, spills the beans. The information needs to be verified, but it’s enough to narrow down your suspects to a point where the Praetor’s direct involvement would be justified. 3 = Jimmy the Lie has a good memory. And, in true copper-clipper style, he ran his sordid business as efficiently as any banker. There are records. Paper trails. Evidence. He tells you exactly where to find it.Double Success = Caved quickly. No actual torture is required.3 rolls of 1d100. You have THREE re-rolls. Your opponent has ONE re-roll.Spare the rod, spoil the child…
Rolled 4 (1d100)>>4325197
Rolled 33 (1d100)>>4325197
>>4325197>the Weak Should Fear the Strong: If you hold the DC advantage in combat gain +1 Combat Re-Roll.Hot damn
Rolled 89 (1d100)>>4325197
Rolled 51 (1d100)>>4325206i rerOll
Rolled 20 (1d100)>>4325209I will attempt to counter your result with the adverse roll.
>>4325198>>4325201>>4325209>>4325210Awww yeah, bad day to be a filthy copper clipper
Haha, I know it's good for Emile but what an absolute slimebucket. I hope Jimmy lives long enough to put some of this right.
>>4325211and in the end the dreaded torture wasn't even required
>>4325148Emile is not a great knight either. He got curb stomped by that basilisk and only survived because of plot armour and a fae child saving his life. Forgotten had to asspull and stop the basilisk from using all of its re-rolls because Emile would've been screwed then. The basilisk still had a re-roll left that it didn't use for absolutely no reason before it died. Emile should be dead now.>>4325149I don't see how that is relevant. No one is past redemption, forgiveness, or salvation in Slave Regina's faith, the faith which he follows. It is so for Sir Hast Vancewell and it is so for Jimmy the Little.
>>4325219I've got two questions for you.1. Are you a Cantionian Priestand2. Have you ever heard of the mystical turtle-wolf? Most fearsome beast of Fallavon?
>>4325197>+2 Path of ThornsGreat new trait and cool development. Love how Emile is slowly turning from a young idealistic knight into a more pragmatic and callous character.
>>4325254I'm more interested in why we didn't lose Adam points here even though we lost Cain points when the scout wasn't tortured. Interesting arbitrary distribution of path points you got there, Forgotten.
>>4325255I posit this as theoryunlike the Scout case we aren't actively denying the path of adam in threatening torture on this man, the Bandits were according to Father Towbray an extension of the fallen world willing debasing themselves for their own gain it's pretty clear the mission of Cainites is purging the world to reclaim in the name of the allmighty and make it something of a better or higher world than what is deemed fallen.
> Jimmy the Lie has a good memory. And, in true copper-clipper style, he ran his sordid business as efficiently as any banker. There are records. Paper trails. Evidence. He tells you exactly where to find it.> Double Success (33): Caved quickly. No actual torture is required."I care little for the secrets of perverted nobles and filthy merchants that your bosses would kill you for revealing. I'm tracking one particular individual who brought unwanted attention and harm to your business by mutilating the children you hold in thrall. Tell me about that incident." Brother Rousseau brushes down a rotten stool for you to sit across from Jimmy the Lie. “Thank you. The masked individual to your left has a number of sharp instruments, tools of the trade. If you lie, or are slow to answer, my companion will begin using them.”“I-I-I I don’t know nothing! I don’t know! I j-j-just run the… I j-just run the place, alright! I-I“Fingers or toes?”“I-I-I what?” Jimmy the Lie’s voice turns shrill.“Fingers?” You waggle your index digit at the pimp. Then point to his bare feet. “Or toes?”“What?!” Jess the Kid steps in closer with a particularly vicious piece of steel in hand and Jimmy the Lie pisses himself again, quite literally. “F-Fuck! No! Get that crazy bitch away from me! Salve Reginae’s cunt, I’ll talk! I’ll talk…”“That’s enough, Kid.” You do not miss Brother Rousseau’s grunt behind you over Jimmy the Lies blubbing. For a man of the Knights Comitas, he appears to not be as squeamish as some of his brethren about these matters. “And none of that gutter-talk, Jimmy. I will not permit that kind of blasphemy in my presence.”The emotionless stare of Jess the Kid’s porcelain face as she puts away her numerous daggers is nearly as disturbing as the notion of where she picked up so many wicked blades in so short a time. You have little doubt that she would have skinned Jimmy the Lie on your orders as efficiently as any deer, and without about the same level of compunction too. You’d like to say it’s the Fae in her, but truth be told there a men aplenty like that too.“Alright, Jimmy the Lie. Let’s start again…”“We… we get the occasional priest down at The Hole. Or ex-priest, a few of them. Most is there for the regular menu. Not the ‘specials’ as we call ‘em. There was a Reclamaint maniac who would make a scene outside the place on Sandag, no one paid him much heed. Then he took to accosting customers coming to and fro’, shouting it were sinful and all that, e’en on weekdays. Coffin Nails’ boys took care of ‘im. Bad for business he were. For the… the ‘specials’… sometimes we get an address to send one up to. Rich parts of town. Places owned by big people.” [1/3]
>>4325259I prefer the theory of Forgotten not taking away Adam points when going against Path of Adam because that will affect decision making. Intriguing how this doesn't apply when going against Path of Cain.
You reign in your disgust, both at the abuse of children by the powerful and the casual mention of the murder of a priest brave enough to object. It appears that no mad priest was a regular customer of The Hole’s ‘special menu’, at least not personally. “Were members of the Golden Sun Company among your clients? When did they came last? what were their names?”“They Langlish? There was a Langlishman by the name of Laz… Laz-something. Lazer?” Jimmy the Lie flinches under your narrowed eyebrows. “Lazar! ‘is name were Lazar!”“Who are their local associates?”“He’s… connected. Friends in the Nightwatch, friends in... Friends all over. He’s a fixer, right? Fingers in many pies. Sometimes he were the one what told us which addresses to send the specials to.” “Have there been other recent clients who have similarly exceeded the standards of your den of depravity?”“Coffin Nails don’t truck with that, waste of a source of income ‘right? But sometimes they gets all worn out. Used up, y’see? Like rutting with a corpse. Sometimes Lazar would ask for those ones. Ask how much it’d cost if they could keep ‘em. Sell ‘em on like. Find ‘em homes was they was all done, n’ such.”“And you believed him?”“…yes.” *SLAM* the clatter of Jess’ knife-hilt on the crate makes Jimmy the Lie twitch.“What did I tell you about lying, Jimmy?”“I… I didn’t think about it. Price was right, profit margins were kept. Jus’ business is all.” Jimmy’s panicked eyes remind you of a rats, skirting frantically about the room for a hole to crawl in. “At first it were just occasional. Every few passing of the Sisters, maybe. But a few moons ago that all changed, started chasing me up for one-way specials more n’ more. He were even after the healthier ones, high earners. Plenty of mileage left in ‘em. I said no, e’en when he upped his offers. Coffin Nails would have had my balls if he caught me selling the dregs, let alone healthy stock.”“Stock? Call them what they are. Children.” You are perversely proud at your utter lack of illness in reaction to this creature’s nauseating testimony. You will have time to be physically sick later, in the meantime the awfulness of it all doesn’t appear to have yet sunk in. “This Coffin Nail, he likes an account kept of his businesses. Likes to know where the money is flowing to. And from.”“Yes?”“And I doubt he takes your word for it.” “…No.”“You know what I’m asking, copper-clipper. Don’t be difficult about it.”[2/3]
>>4325263The whole point is to affect decision making, we are playing a taiwanese game of choice & consequence.
>>4325265The whole point is railroading it seems yeah.
[3/3]“There’s… there’s a ledger. Strongbox, top shelf in the room upstairs to the left. It’s got sums, names… services.” You are careful to suppress your eagerness. The testimony of a pimp is of scant use in trial, especially if the accused is a priest. And a potentially senior clergyman if the numbers Jimmy the Lie talks of are true. But evidence, contemporary written evidence… Doubtless it was meant to serve as a source of blackmail or security, hence why the City Watch hasn’t burnt the place to ground long ago. Even the prospect of such a find should be enough to secure the Praetor’s support for a raid. Or for your own, altogether more indirect, intervention. With that ledger in hand, you have little need to keep Jimmy the Lie around as a witness.Thankfully, you don’t have to worry about acquiring a physician. And you certainly don’t give enough of a shit about this scum’s scarce dignity to arrange for a fresh change of clothes. But, if the Praetors do decide use him as an asset, he will very likely be offered protection and perhaps even immunity for his cooperation in this investigation and any assistance in bringing down this Coffin Nails’ gang. In your homeland of Romaine they would stake this sort of creature out on the edge of the Ardenne Lake. Alive, so they could hear the screams when the Dread Lords came for him. But this is not Romaine. Even if convicted, this wretched worm will at most serve a paltry amount of time on the chaingangs, if that. Scant justice for those whose lives he has already ruined, or had his part in ruining.Your hand tightens into a fist. Scant justice for the forgotten children of this city.=============================================================> “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]> “One last question Jimmy, and remember what we discussed about lying. Do you ever beat your charges?” You know the answer already. Jess the Kid stands behind the pimp, dagger in hand. With a nod, Jimmy the Lie will never leave this room alive. Body found floating by the docks… [Hearty]> “A wise woman once told me that no one is beyond Salve Reginae’s forgiveness. No one. I was not sure if I believed her then, and I am still less sure now. But she is the reason you will live to see another day.” You give Jimmy the Lie a second chance, to flee Port Bounty and start a new life. [Idealist]
>>4325267>“A wise woman once told me that no one is beyond Salve Reginae’s forgiveness. No one. I was not sure if I believed her then, and I am still less sure now. But she is the reason you will live to see another day.” You give Jimmy the Lie a second chance, to flee Port Bounty and start a new life. [Idealist]
No, fair play. If this was a legal interrogation the lack of -1 Adam point might be explained away but given this extra-legal nature of questioning this is definitely worthy of a -1 Step on the Path of Adam.It probably should have been more along the lines of:+1 Cain+1 Thorns-1 AdamBut we'll count the +2 Thorns as accounting for that for now. I beg your patience on my inconsistencies, please do point them out wherever you notice them.
>>4325267Write in because I think Emile should do the deed if it's going to be done, rather than palm it off to someone else to keep his hands clean>You've served your purpose Jimmy and though I find you irredeemable, may Salve Reginae forgive you... but not as you are now. You take your sword and deliver a quick, clean, killing blow. He'll suffer no pain or anguish in his last moments, a fate possibly too good for the likes of him
>>4325267>> “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]If we can use him to get the Praetors support I'm all for it. He may not receive his just reckoning in this life but the Almighty will judge him in the end.
>>4325272As currently written, this would breach the Blade Defends the Helpless code. A little tweaking can fix that though.
>>4325267>> “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]>> “One last question Jimmy, and remember what we discussed about lying. Do you ever beat your charges?” You know the answer already. Jess the Kid stands behind the pimp, dagger in hand. With a nod, Jimmy the Lie will never leave this room alive. Body found floating by the docks… [Hearty]I'll be happy with this stirling example of why the pit exists going there sooner or later regardless of if we see him there ourselves>>4325271All good man this has been an interesting interaction for Emille>>4325272support though I'd personally feel like Emille would be less in control of it.
>>4325276Oh man you're right. Its been so long I keep forgetting about the oaths. If we do go with that I'd like to give him a weapon and give him a trial by combat right here instead so that it doesn't breach our oath
>>4325267>> “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]Again, scumbag. But he fits in well with this city, no need to have him find a new BOO
>>4325267> “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]We may not be able to undo the damage he's done to his "stock", but we can prevent such things from happening in the future if he's alive>>4320201Me
>>4325267>“Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]
>>4325267>> “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]
>>4325267>>4325270>“Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]Switching to this. Emile doesn't really believe in Salve Regina's faith, so Idealist doesn't sound fitting here.>>4325272I don't see how this is in-character with Emile's character. Emile delivered Sir Hast Vancewell, a murderer and a rapist, to the authorities so he can receive a fair trial and sentence rather than murder him when he could've. Don't see why he'd decide to be a vigilante here just because how doesn't like how the law will treat Jimmy. >>4325272Emile doesn't have the authority to have a trial by combat here. This is just an illegal interrogation of someone he abducted from the street. Let's not pretend that he would be presiding over some sort of trial if we went hearty. He'd just murder him. People who are challenged to trial by combat are not actually obligated to accept it anyway.>>4325276Isn't hearty a breach of Blade Defends the Helpless code too? Don't tell me that Emile wouldn't be breaking it if he just orders one of his companions do his own dirty work instead. That's nonsense.
>>4325287>Don't see why he'd decide to be a vigilante here just because how doesn't like...>I don't see how this is in-c..>Emile doesn't have the authority to have... etcIf its in character to have Jess kill him here and now, its in character to do it himself. The trial by combat is just a loophole to avoid breaking an oath. Forgotten has stated in the past that loopholes are fair game. In essence if we went that route it would be that we've decided to kill him so that he doesn't skirt justice, so we hand him a blade and tell him to defend himself so as to not breach the oath. Perfectly in-line with what we can do.As to the point about being a vigilante... It's a bit late for that. We've kidnapped this guy and performed an extra-legal interrogation on him. We've already gone down that path and are now weighing up if its worth taking him in or ending him now
So whats Emille's reaction going to be if the Ordo praetors don't prosecute on the brothel or jimmy?
>>4325295Calls them copper-clippers, accuse them of being involved in the business of the brothel in some way, taking bribes, other shady deals. Challenges head fuckwad to a duel to the death and handily decapitates him (in a Just world)
>>4325294>If its in character to have Jess kill him here and now, its in character to do it himself.That's some of the stupidest type of logic I've heard. >The trial by combat is just a loophole to avoid breaking an oath. Forgotten has stated in the past that loopholes are fair game. In essence if we went that route it would be that we've decided to kill him so that he doesn't skirt justice, so we hand him a blade and tell him to defend himself so as to not breach the oath. Perfectly in-line with what we can do.I don't think you understand what a trial by combat is and you are completely ignorant of it. A trial by combat isn't some loophole that allows you to lawfully kill someone anywhere you want and whenever you want. A trial by combat is a sacred judicial duel that happens in an actual legal trial. The other thing is that you can't force the challenged to accept the judicial duel. They can accept it or just have a regular legal trial. They can even have someone fight in their stead if they accept. Violating a trial by combat would be sacrilegious.The ''trial by combat'' you propose isn't really a trial by combat and is just a charade.>As to the point about being a vigilante... It's a bit late for that. We've kidnapped this guy and performed an extra-legal interrogation on him. We've already gone down that path and are now weighing up if its worth taking him in or ending him nowWhich is why having the ''trial by combat'' you propose is a farce. Emile isn't a judge presiding over some sort of legal trial here. He's a vigilante who doesn't have the authority to propose a trial by combat and what he is doing isn't even legal.
>>4325313>The ''trial by combat'' you propose isn't really a trial by combat and is just a charade.Imagine actually typing out the point and yet missing it so completely. >That's some of the stupidest type of logic I've heard. Yeah cool, I don't care about your opinions at all but keep blustering as if they were facts
>>4325267>“One last question Jimmy, and remember what we discussed about lying. Do you ever beat your charges?” You know the answer already. Jess the Kid stands behind the pimp, dagger in hand. With a nod, Jimmy the Lie will never leave this room alive. Body found floating by the docks… [Hearty]
>>4325294Shit I'd say we began to cross that line in Fallavon siding with the Bluejay's as that was a real dip into quasi Illegal behaviour.
I vote for whatever I want without considering if it's "ic" or not
>>4325267> “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]We got a big lead with the ledger and confirmation that Lazar is at the center of it, but nothing definite about the killer, I feel we forgot to ask something.
>>4325295That is very likely not gonna happen. Jimmy the Little isn't stupid. He will cooperate with the investigation as long as they offer him protection, but he won't want immunity because that means he'll have to go free and face the music. He'd rather stay locked up for a while until the vendetta on him for talking is gone. In fact, he will even help Emile and the Praetors in their investigation in any way he can because this will be in his best interest. Think about it. If Emile and the Praetors fail in their investigation, then Jimmy is absolutely screwed even if they give him protection for a while. That protection will be gone at some point and he'll be on his own. They have to succeed for his own sake.
>>4325267>> “One last question Jimmy, and remember what we discussed about lying. Do you ever beat your charges?” You know the answer already. Jess the Kid stands behind the pimp, dagger in hand. With a nod, Jimmy the Lie will never leave this room alive. Body found floating by the docks… [Hearty]Get that cain/thorns further up people.
>>4325272Supporting this
>>4325342Changing this vote to:>”One last question Jimmy, and remember what we discussed about lying. Do you ever beat your charges?” You know the answer already. Jess the Kid stands behind the pimp, dagger in hand. With a nod, Jimmy the Lie will never leave this room alive. Body found floating by the docks… [Hearty]>>4320219Linking previous post
>>4325267> “One last question Jimmy, and remember what we discussed about lying. Do you ever beat your charges?” You know the answer already. Jess the Kid stands behind the pimp, dagger in hand. With a nod, Jimmy the Lie will never leave this room alive. Body found floating by the docks… [Hearty]
>>4325267>> “One last question Jimmy, and remember what we discussed about lying. Do you ever beat your charges?” You know the answer already. Jess the Kid stands behind the pimp, dagger in hand. With a nod, Jimmy the Lie will never leave this room alive. Body found floating by the docks… [Hearty]
>>4325267> “One last question Jimmy, and remember what we discussed about lying. Do you ever beat your charges?” You know the answer already. Jess the Kid stands behind the pimp, dagger in hand. With a nod, Jimmy the Lie will never leave this room alive. Body found floating by the docks… [Hearty]He is utter gutter scum. He doesn't deserve a chance.
>>4325267> “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]Link incase ID has changed >>4319429From this little investigation i'm started to dislike this city. I imagine it's cases like this that turn idealist Praetors Cynical about the legal process.
>>4325267> “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]My inner Cainfag screams to kill this shit, but alas.
>>4325267> “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]Fuck this chump, death's too good for him, but laws are there for a reason. The Praetor's might also prefer having him put to their questions too, and even though we're outside the bounds of the laws, that might look aside for this break in the cases.>>4325287Another thing to keep in mind is that Vancewell was also a fellow knight. That doesn't mean much to us modern folk, but members of the upper classes had a lot of protections in addition to their higher requirements in social standings. A fellow knight caught red-handed would still need to be tried and made an example of, and they won't always get the proper punishments either. Gutter trash that peddles in the lives and virtues of children without the protections of a higher social position is nearly certainly going to at least lose some parts if not get the rope. Emile may be warming up to his views of the common people, but they are still lower on the totem pole in the end. Trials by combat were offered to Vancewell solely on the basis of him being a privileged member taking any advantage he could grasp at to avoid dying.
>>4325267>>4325267> “One last question Jimmy, and remember what we discussed about lying. Do you ever beat your charges?” You know the answer already. Jess the Kid stands behind the pimp, dagger in hand. With a nod, Jimmy the Lie will never leave this room alive. Body found floating by the docks… [Hearty]Time for him to die we naver said we wornt going to kill him.And the cooper clipers book will be good enguh for a raid and put on watch the rich and powerful, I'm sure other people at the hole would have information as well.>>4323838This is me;
>>4325267> “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, andwhat the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]>>4321983I don't know if my ID changed since I'm a dirty phone poster so this is me.
>>4325324So the next person we go and talk with is Lazar and im sure he has book as well. I hope the lawbringer bust out there judge dreads and purge this fucking city.
>>4325267> “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]Since we didn't actually torture him, don't want to leave a questionable murder charge against us.>>4323064Is me.
>>4325399>>4325267I'll switch to >“Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]I'd like to kill him, but since we haven't revealed our identity I guess it's best to go the lawful route.Then again, I'd also like to incite the pilgrims to burn down the Hole and use that as a distraction to grab the ledger and the guy who keeps it, and kill him.
>>4325544Or we can just steal it ourselves.....
>>4325550Easier to steal something when someone is trying to escape with it, rather than trying to sneak in and get it.Jess is really the only one with stealth skills, and having her go into a child brothel seems like . . . Not a good idea?Having her case possible exits is though.>>4325267Oh, is it too late to get a floor plan for the Hole, and possible secret exits into other building or underground if Pascae has a sewer system? Now that we know the ledger is there?Burn out the Hole, and then capture buddy in the confusion while he tries to escape with the ledger.Additionally, pilgrims attacking the Hole will cause too much ruckus for people in power to keep it quiet, so we can display the ledger publicly and make sure everyone who deserves it gets punished.
>>4325456Lazar was the captain in the ruins, I think we kill him during our assault. Fuck it, going to make another pastbin for the murder investigation and slaver ring.
> “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]He is scum of the earth and guilty as hell, but we have made sure to have other guilty individuals go before court rather than simply killing them if we are able.If we see him out and about while doing the same horrible things, then we can say that justicve has failed in his case. Until that happens, we should place him before the law.
>>4325544>>4325631Yeah, let's use our charges that we're protecting and guarding as bait so they can get slaughtered by the brothel's guards. Great idea genius.
>>4325267>> “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty>>4323548Me
>>4325776> Wanting to prevent believers from achieving martyrdom fighting against the FoeDo you protect men, or lambs? We seek out not just a den of inequity, but a vile heresy that uses the blood of innocents in rituals most foul. Aided, if not by the complacency then by outright complicity on the parts of those whose duty is to protect the realm.Pretty much the same reasoning for why we allowed their aid in raiding the Bandit Camp, except a thousand times more important in scale.Do you not trust that any in Pascae are also repulsed by the ongoings of this place, and will not join us in our righteous purging of it?
Okay, which one of you shield memers did this?https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2OEKPJAENcWXrTfgvQUx8C0e3Fm1xX7986hd5ulScbSYmzQoYjQVCx0RY&v=laP-ddwrm5g
>>4325852Nah you just want to use the charges we're supposed to be protecting as cannon fodder bait because youre afraid and want them to take the risk rather than you that's all.
>>4325852>>4325880Actually, your idea doesn't sound bad now that I think about it. Emile isn't honourable and is a knob in armour. Using the people he's supposed to be protecting as bait is definitely not beneath him, especially if they're peasants which he considers to be inferior. So yeah, I'll vote for your idea because it completely fits Emile.
I'm not against this idea of getting the more ardent believers in Father Towbray congregation into a mob to raid the hole to free the children. Here is a basic plan.We go in first with a couple of our companion and deal with any muscle guarding the entrance and move on the ledger, the religious mob follows soon after us and look for the children. Everyone gets out and we set the place ablaze. This way we personally deal with any opponents that might actually be prepare and armed, soften the opposition for a the angry mob of zealots and disguise our objective in religious outrage. We should of-course run this through Father Towbray but I think he will be egger to avenge a murder priest.
>>4325918Your argument might hold the slightest bit of water had we not already brought them to fight against a bandit camp, but as it stands yeah Emile totally would and has let the pilgrims aid him.Like fucking brothel bodyguards are gonna stick around to get torn apart by an angry mob anyways.
>>4325997This is pretty much what I envisioned.So long as we get the ledger, we're good.Even if we don't, we did the right thing.The mob is mostly there to bring more attention to the brothel than can be covered up, anyways.
Staking a spot for future votes.
>>4325278changing priority from Haughty to Hearty
> “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” The ultimate fate of the pimp, and what the Praetors eventually decide to do with him, is beneath you. Your only concern is the task you have been set, the investigation. [Haughty]There is not a figment of regret in his countenance. No remorse over his part in The Hole’s macabre play of suffering and depredation. The only person Jimmy the Lie has ever felt sorry for is himself, not least of all right now. Your eyes flick up to the shadowy figure of Jess the Kid hovering behind him.You wonder if she’s somehow picked up the common tongue, or whether she is simply very good at reading your hostile body language. And hostile it is. If you had not been taking steps to reign in your temper lately you suspect that you would have throttled Jimmy the Lie where he sat long before you were finished with your questions. You wonder what kind of man that makes you. To be the kind of man that can enjoy flirting with a pretty woman over khave at lunch and have a man butchered like a sow by dinner. You sigh, letting your hate disperse as if it were every bit as physical as the wind from your breath. A pimp, of all things, is really not worth getting this worked up over. Are you really going to lose your composure after being confronted with the reality of the sorts of things these lowborn criminals get up to? Of course not. “Jess, I’ll have Orin come around in an hour. Make sure our guest remains here. Alive, more’s the pity…” A small part of you wonders whether you will come to regret letting Jimmy the Lie live, like Craig of Lowgrove before him. But a much bigger part realises that you will probably never spare this wretched man a second thought. You have bigger fish to fry, as the Port Bounty fishsellers say.[1/2]
[2/2]The Praetor Primus wants this killer found, that much is clear. It is also apparent that this killer, very likely a priest, has or had links with the Faction. Certainly with the Langlishmen working for the Faction. The Praetor’s are supposed to cooperate with local authorities and adhere to local laws, but they are not themselves local subjects. That ledger could lead to some dangerous places, name dangerous names. A week ago you would have laughed the suggestion that the Ordo Praetor could be susceptible to the kind of corruption it was charged with rooting out. A week in Port Bounty has muddied the waters considerably, the list of strangers and institutions you felt safe to trust is shrinking rapidly. Now nothing is entirely impossible.==============================================================>It is late, and one missed day at work will not alert the criminal masters that Jimmy the Lie serves. Better to talk with the Praetor Primus discreetly at the Ball tomorrow, present your evidence and secure his legitimate support. [Haughty]>This situation requires a deft personal touch, not an official mailed fist. It would not be impossible to retrieve the ledger with a minimum of fuss. Ideally, with a nimble catspaw but if that should fail you will have a small trusted strike team on hand. [Haughty] >You make your way to the Praetor’s office immediately. You cannot afford the luxury of hesitation. If you move quickly, the Nightwatch won’t be able to interfere. The raid on The Hole must be launched as swiftly as possible. Tonight. [Hearty]>The Ordo Praetor has given you scant help at every turn. And doubtless The Hole itself will survive their raid in the long term. You should speak to Father Towbray, see what he and his like-minded pilgrims think of this. [Idealist]
I decided not to award an Adam point here as I really should have removed one at the last decision.
>>4327057>>You make your way to the Praetor’s office immediately. You cannot afford the luxury of hesitation. If you move quickly, the Nightwatch won’t be able to interfere. The raid on The Hole must be launched as swiftly as possible. Tonight. [Hearty]We need to move fast, people will notice Jimmy missing, even if its just people he spends time around. Can't let this get away from us
>>4327057>You make your way to the Praetor’s office immediately. You cannot afford the luxury of hesitation. If you move quickly, the Nightwatch won’t be able to interfere. The raid on The Hole must be launched as swiftly as possible. Tonight. [Hearty]>The Ordo Praetor has given you scant help at every turn. And doubtless The Hole itself will survive their raid in the long term. You should speak to Father Towbray, see what he and his like-minded pilgrims think of this. [Idealist]The Praetor seems like a good man who genuinely cares about justice. He wouldn't have given us the permission for our unofficial investigation otherwise.
>>4327057>>You make your way to the Praetor’s office immediately. You cannot afford the luxury of hesitation. If you move quickly, the Nightwatch won’t be able to interfere. The raid on The Hole must be launched as swiftly as possible. Tonight. [Hearty]
>>4327057>>The Ordo Praetor has given you scant help at every turn. And doubtless The Hole itself will survive their raid in the long term. You should speak to Father Towbray, see what he and his like-minded pilgrims think of this. [Idealist]>>You make your way to the Praetor’s office immediately. You cannot afford the luxury of hesitation. If you move quickly, the Nightwatch won’t be able to interfere. The raid on The Hole must be launched as swiftly as possible. Tonight. [Hearty]I want to see this place dealt with regardless preferrablywith fire.
Also remember the Praetor said we have to do this quiet-like or not at all. We should go to him to see if the time for being quiet is over or not.
Would it be possible to to make a copy of the ledger and hold onto it as insurance / collateral in order to make sure that changes are made and the customers are weeded out successfully. it could prove to be quite useful if we need to extort someone on the list, or force the Churches hand on something.
>>4327057>>The Ordo Praetor has given you scant help at every turn. And doubtless The Hole itself will survive their raid in the long term. You should speak to Father Towbray, see what he and his like-minded pilgrims think of this. [Idealist]DEUS LO VULT
>>4327057>The Ordo Praetor has given you scant help at every turn. And doubtless The Hole itself will survive their raid in the long term. You should speak to Father Towbray, see what he and his like-minded pilgrims think of this. [Idealist]Let hit the place.
If we speak to Father Towbray to see the brothel destroyed we should do what we can to save the children & keep the investigation out of this
>>4327057>You make your way to the Praetor’s office immediately. You cannot afford the luxury of hesitation. If you move quickly, the Nightwatch won’t be able to interfere. The raid on The Hole must be launched as swiftly as possible. Tonight. [Hearty]
>>4327057>>You make your way to the Praetor’s office immediately. You cannot afford the luxury of hesitation. If you move quickly, the Nightwatch won’t be able to interfere. The raid on The Hole must be launched as swiftly as possible. Tonight. [Hearty
>>4327057First we:>You make your way to the Praetor’s office immediately. You cannot afford the luxury of hesitation. If you move quickly, the Nightwatch won’t be able to interfere. The raid on The Hole must be launched as swiftly as possible. Tonight. [Hearty]After the raid tonight we:>The Ordo Praetor has given you scant help at every turn. And doubtless The Hole itself will survive their raid in the long term. You should speak to Father Towbray, see what he and his like-minded pilgrims think of this. [Idealist]This den of sin will survive the raid, but it will not survive a crowd of zealous faithful!>>4320219Linking previous ID
>>4327057>The Ordo Praetor has given you scant help at every turn. And doubtless The Hole itself will survive their raid in the long term. You should speak to Father Towbray, see what he and his like-minded pilgrims think of this. [Idealist]Pious and good folk happened to burn a den of sin and crime to the ground. All evidence was lost in their religious fervor...or was it?
>>4327154>>4325830Is me I'm sorry I have to phone post but i'm currently inawoods doing scout things
>>4327057>You make your way to the Praetor’s office immediately. You cannot afford the luxury of hesitation. If you move quickly, the Nightwatch won’t be able to interfere. The raid on The Hole must be launched as swiftly as possible. Tonight. [Hearty]We should bring the stealth squad with us
>>4327187That seems redundant considering this will be effectively a seizure raid under the Praetors.
>>4327193I meant in the case that the Nightwatch stop us for whatever reason, but that's a good point
>>4327196I don't think that will happen, while the Praetors run parralel to the Nightwatch and have an abrasive relationship with them I don't think I raid would be stopped unless someone with significant influence really pushed for it.
>>4327197LOL I meant on the way there right now given that it's NighttimeI hope you're right though, Forgotten really has me invested in these kids
>>4327205ahh well yeah I don't see much reason for it either unless we take a dark alley in a bad spot or they insist on stopping a man on buisness who has done nothing obviously wrong.
>>4327057 >The Ordo Praetor has given you scant help at every turn. And doubtless The Hole itself will survive their raid in the long term. You should speak to Father Towbray, see what he and his like-minded pilgrims think of this. [Idealist]
>>4327057>You make your way to the Praetor’s office immediately. You cannot afford the luxury of hesitation. If you move quickly, the Nightwatch won’t be able to interfere. The raid on The Hole must be launched as swiftly as possible. Tonight. [Hearty]Ether way we gota at lest cheack out the ledger >>4325452This is me;
>>4327057>>The Ordo Praetor has given you scant help at every turn. And doubtless The Hole itself will survive their raid in the long term. You should speak to Father Towbray, see what he and his like-minded pilgrims think of this. [Idealist]
>>4327057>You make your way to the Praetor’s office immediately. You cannot afford the luxury of hesitation. If you move quickly, the Nightwatch won’t be able to interfere. The raid on The Hole must be launched as swiftly as possible. Tonight. [Hearty]Worst thing happens and the Praetor reject us we go in for the strike team option.
>>4328172>Mr X is one of the most respected people in Pascae Andrei and yet you ran his carriage off a cliff, broke the necks of three of his knights and drove a horse through his front door!>But Captain I have proof he's head of an international slaving ring>I don't want to hear it Andrei YOU"RE OUT OF HERE!>*CRASH*>That makes two of us>Cue angel going sick as bruh
>You make your way to the Praetor’s office immediately. You cannot afford the luxury of hesitation. If you move quickly, the Nightwatch won’t be able to interfere. The raid on The Hole must be launched as swiftly as possible. Tonight. [Hearty]
>>4318730This is me>>4327057>You make your way to the Praetor’s office immediately. You cannot afford the luxury of hesitation. If you move quickly, the Nightwatch won’t be able to interfere. The raid on The Hole must be launched as swiftly as possible. Tonight. [Hearty]
Vote closed, but update delayed for ETA 13 hours.I’m glad we’ll get to show off the Pascae Praetor Department.
>>4328815The ppd you mean?
>>4328815
>You make your way to the Praetor’s office immediately. You cannot afford the luxury of hesitation. If you move quickly, the Nightwatch won’t be able to interfere. The raid on The Hole must be launched as swiftly as possible. Tonight. [Hearty]>Persuasion AUTO-SUCCESS, live (dubious) witness + ledger evidenceIt is well after dark as you step quickly through the streets to the Ordo Praetor commandery. A light drizzle gives the cold an altogether more bracing quality, but the same cold keeps the streets by-and-large clear of any riff-raff or traffic. Even the Nightwatch don’t get in your way, though few people would see any reason to interfere a fully-armoured knight moving with purpose in the street.Praetor Primus Grigor dan Holt is nowhere near as dismissive upon your second visit, he sits stock still as you report your findings to date. Finally, as you finish explaining the necessity for an immediate raid on The Hole, Primus Holt raps his knuckle on his heavy office desk and rises. He beckons you to follow him out and down the hall, past Praetor san Kilroy’s office. “Thomas. Thomas! Good, still burning the midnight candles. Your blade and armour serviceable?”“Always, sire. What’s going on?” Sir Thomas York, a middle-aged man sporting a blonde head of hair and moustache, stands to attention but spares you a curious glance. You detect the weariness of a man interrupted from heading home for the day, but alert enough to realise it must be important. “Possible breakthrough on the Port Bounty Butcher case, we need to a team on secondment.” “Of course. Shall I fetch san Kilroy, given this is his case?”“This requires real Praetor work, and we don’t have time to check every dockside bar right now. You have contacts with the Port Watch, are there any we can trust? This needs to be done quickly.”“The 17th rota should have just gotten off their shift…” "Can they be trusted?"“Only the minimum level of bribery and favours. Zachariah’s unit is no Aubrey Guard, but it's as good as we’ll get in this city.”“It will have to do. Get your armour on and come with me. You too, Andrei.”“At once, sire. Who is this, if I may ask?”“If he’s wasting my time, he’s about to be the sorriest nobleson in all Cantôn.” The Praetor Primus casts a critical eye over you, a judgmental look that doubtless has had many have come up wanting. “But if he’s not… maybe our latest deputy.”[1/3]
On your way through the streets Sir York disentangles himself from his gaggle of notaries and mutters to you while the Praetor Primus is out of earshot. It was alarmingly quick to secure a warrant through the tangle of the Pascae legal system at this late hour, but the Praetor Primus had requested this particular magistrate by name.“You keep strange company for a deputy.” The Praetor casts a wry eye over Brother Rousseau, who has refused all attempts of conversation. Without the whitecloak of the Comitas to identify he must appear a surly sellsword indeed. “For your sake, I hope this pays off. The Primus can hold a grudge to those who embarrass him. And goodwill is a hard currency to come by in this city. Are you sure of your source?”“I am sure. He had plenty of incentive to be telling the truth. I’m more concerned about the men we’re trusting to make up this raid.” Your answer is a bit more snappy than strictly necessary, but Sir York is not mentioning any concerns you yourself have not already agonised over in your own head. “This Zacariah, is he trustworthy?” “He bloody better be. He’s getting married to my laundry maid.” Sir York’s confident grin takes you by surprise. “And I’m footing the bill for most of it.”“-and then, when Ziggy is still picking up the watermelons, the husband walks in!” The uproarious laughter from the City Watch barracks up ahead indicates that the last shift for the evening is still getting changed out of the armour. Sir York must recognise the voice, as he nods approvingly at the voice. “This is them.”[2/3]
>>4329964H Y P E
[3/3]Raucous laughter gives way to shocked silence as yourself and the fully armoured Praetors step in to the common guardsmen changerooms. It appears that Port Bounty does not discriminate too heavily when it comes to the makeup of their, the guardsmen in this room are as diverse a bunch of commoners as you have ever seen.“Men of the Port Bounty City Watch, 17th Rota! You have hereby been drafted into the services of His Majesty’s Ordo Praetor, subject to the second by-law of the Border Peace Agreement of 861 and Her Majesty's vestigal power under Church Law. By the power invested in myself a principal Praetor of the Pascae duchy, you are now compelled to follow any and all lawful orders I give from this moment on.” Praetor Primus Holt’s hawkish eyes scan the room of a half-score individuals in various states of armour and undress as Sir York presents their leader with the necessary writs and warrants. “Be ready to move out in five minutes.”“You heard his lordship, the Praetor Primus is in charge. Get your gear back on and get ready to move out at once.” Zachariah no doubt, a commoner with a surprisingly strong jawline and attractive brown mop of hair, surprises you further by actually reading the warrant. Or at least pretending very well. “From the look of that warrant we’ll be pissing off an awful lot of people today, so covered helms for this one. Kale! Does that look like a fucking covered helm? No? Then put it back.”“Fucks sake, our shift was jus’ ending…” A disgruntled mutter from the back, “What’d we do to piss of the Watch Capn’ this time?”“Shut the fuck up, Glen. This sounds legit.”“I bet we won’t even get overtime for this…”===============================================================>The staff of The Hole may have already noticed that Jimmy the Lie is missing. You don’t have time to fetch your other companions, and this strike force will be enough to cow any criminal resistance. You will have to rely on the worthiness of the Zacaraiah’s men, Jess the Kid’s aim and the watchful gaze of Brother Rousseau. [Haughty] >The Port Bounty Watch don’t patrol that shady part of the docksides even in daytime unless in force. If things get hairy you could find yourself seriously outnumbered. You should gather whatever extra arms you can, and you prefer to fight with more companions you trust at your back than men you have only met tonight. [Hearty]>Jerod, his half-dozen House Andrei guardsmen and your own entourage will nearly double the size of the strike force. It may be worth making a stop and enlisting their help from your sister as well, though that could slow you down even further. This risk of unwanted attention to their presence is worth their assistance. [Idealist]
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>>4329979>The staff of The Hole may have already noticed that Jimmy the Lie is missing. You don’t have time to fetch your other companions, and this strike force will be enough to cow any criminal resistance. You will have to rely on the worthiness of the Zacaraiah’s men, Jess the Kid’s aim and the watchful gaze of Brother Rousseau. [Haughty]
>>4329979>>The Port Bounty Watch don’t patrol that shady part of the docksides even in daytime unless in force. If things get hairy you could find yourself seriously outnumbered. You should gather whatever extra arms you can, and you prefer to fight with more companions you trust at your back than men you have only met tonight. [Hearty]Most of them should be at our base at this hour. We could send Kid to quickly gather them and bring them here.
>>4329979>>Jerod, his half-dozen House Andrei guardsmen and your own entourage will nearly double the size of the strike force. It may be worth making a stop and enlisting their help from your sister as well, though that could slow you down even further. This risk of unwanted attention to their presence is worth their assistance. [Idealist]
>>4329979>>The staff of The Hole may have already noticed that Jimmy the Lie is missing. You don’t have time to fetch your other companions, and this strike force will be enough to cow any criminal resistance. You will have to rely on the worthiness of the Zacaraiah’s men, Jess the Kid’s aim and the watchful gaze of Brother Rousseau. [Haughty]Speed is of the essence.
>>4329979>>The Port Bounty Watch don’t patrol that shady part of the docksides even in daytime unless in force. If things get hairy you could find yourself seriously outnumbered. You should gather whatever extra arms you can, and you prefer to fight with more companions you trust at your back than men you have only met tonight. [Hearty]
>>4329979>You can't just wait before the staff of the Hole realizes Jimmy the Lie is missing and adjust their plans accordingly, but just as much you must take precautions in your haste. Have a messenger from the Ordo Praetor ride to meet your entourage and solicit their help to come reinforce the strike force as soon as they can. [Haughty+Idealist]Por que no los dos.
>>4329979>>The staff of The Hole may have already noticed that Jimmy the Lie is missing. You don’t have time to fetch your other companions, and this strike force will be enough to cow any criminal resistance. You will have to rely on the worthiness of the Zacaraiah’s men, Jess the Kid’s aim and the watchful gaze of Brother Rousseau. [Haughty]
>>4329979>Jerod, his half-dozen House Andrei guardsmen and your own entourage will nearly double the size of the strike force. It may be worth making a stop and enlisting their help from your sister as well, though that could slow you down even further. This risk of unwanted attention to their presence is worth their assistance. [Idealist]
>>4329979>The staff of The Hole may have already noticed that Jimmy the Lie is missing. You don’t have time to fetch your other companions, and this strike force will be enough to cow any criminal resistance. You will have to rely on the worthiness of the Zacaraiah’s men, Jess the Kid’s aim and the watchful gaze of Brother Rousseau. [HaughtyTime to ruin some holes>>4327453This is me;
>>4329979>>The staff of The Hole may have already noticed that Jimmy the Lie is missing. You don’t have time to fetch your other companions, and this strike force will be enough to cow any criminal resistance. You will have to rely on the worthiness of the Zacaraiah’s men, Jess the Kid’s aim and the watchful gaze of Brother Rousseau. [Haughty]Lets gooooo MAXIMUM SPEED
>>4330098I think that we CAN have both our current forces as well as our entourage. It shouldn't take much to send a messenger to meet us as reinforcements. Why settle for one choice. Post related is my write-in.
>>4330098+1
>>4329979>>The Port Bounty Watch don’t patrol that shady part of the docksides even in daytime unless in force. If things get hairy you could find yourself seriously outnumbered. You should gather whatever extra arms you can, and you prefer to fight with more companions you trust at your back than men you have only met tonight. [Hearty]remember we are at injured which is 2 wounds away from death we need some deaths door companions for this
>>4329979>The staff of The Hole may have already noticed that Jimmy the Lie is missing. You don’t have time to fetch your other companions, and this strike force will be enough to cow any criminal resistance. You will have to rely on the worthiness of the Zacaraiah’s men, Jess the Kid’s aim and the watchful gaze of Brother Rousseau. [Haughty]This is a raid, speed is key and we want the board to be clear as possible to avoid both friendly fire and clarity during the raid.
>>4330584>>4330581how do you kniggas feel about this compromise?>>4330522
>>4330098SupportingI'm willing to be down a man for the first few rounds if it means reinforcements come
>>4329979I'll switch my vote here >>4330363to support this addition >>4330098Seems smart
New pastebin for Bounty Butcher Murder investigation, not fully up to date but it might help others pick up something I might have not. https://pastebin.com/bYes2qugAlso on an interesting note Sir Bartholomew Wavell has a similar mustache to the man that hire Craig of Lowgrove to kill us in the woods. And while he did not talk funny he did use a few uncommon words that might sound strange to someone like Craig. >”It wasn’t no local, m’lord. He talked funny, and had clothes of the fancy sort. Coin were odd too, had a stamp on it that I didn’t recognise like a leaf. He uh, he… shaved but left hair on the lip. Never told me his name.” (Craig of Lowgrove)>It occurs to you that you recognise this dark-haired, moustachioed youth.>Sir Bartholomew Wavell scoffs, his oiled Langlish-style mustache twitching.>You know, it was my brother who first introduced me to Ma Souer…”>harsh words were traded betwixt us.It might have been his brother or its just fashionable in Port Bounty, but what if he actually was part of the faction conspiracy along with his brother? Might be nothing but we should be on guard around him next time we see him.
>>4330590That's kinda missing my point we need a single cohesive group on this raid rather Than two groups getting tangled up in each other if we want to obtain the ledger
>>4330599So what keep an eye on him, Investigate him later?
>>4329979>The Port Bounty Watch don’t patrol that shady part of the docksides even in daytime unless in force. If things get hairy you could find yourself seriously outnumbered. You should gather whatever extra arms you can, and you prefer to fight with more companions you trust at your back than men you have only met tonight. [Hearty]Clearly the superior choice. Hey diddle diddle, straight up the middle.
>>4330602I think Emile in his message can convey the information necessary to do just fine.
>>4330098>>4330619>>4329979Wait I didn't see this. Changing my vote.
>>4329979>>You can't just wait before the staff of the Hole realizes Jimmy the Lie is missing and adjust their plans accordingly, but just as much you must take precautions in your haste. Have a messenger from the Ordo Praetor ride to meet your entourage and solicit their help to come reinforce the strike force as soon as they can. [Haughty+Idealist]But we should send proof of identity with the runner.The simplest one would be the Stoat, but lacking that perhaps the bear totem?
>>4329979>The staff of The Hole may have already noticed that Jimmy the Lie is missing. You don’t have time to fetch your other companions, and this strike force will be enough to cow any criminal resistance. You will have to rely on the worthiness of the Zacaraiah’s men, Jess the Kid’s aim and the watchful gaze of Brother Rousseau. [Haughty]Speed is critical. Hit them hard and fast
>>4329968>You can't just wait before the staff of the Hole realizes Jimmy the Lie is missing and adjust their plans accordingly, but just as much you must take precautions in your haste. Have a messenger from the Ordo Praetor ride to meet your entourage and solicit their help to come reinforce the strike force as soon as they can. [Haughty+Idealist]
>>4329979>>You can't just wait before the staff of the Hole realizes Jimmy the Lie is missing and adjust their plans accordingly, but just as much you must take precautions in your haste. Have a messenger from the Ordo Praetor ride to meet your entourage and solicit their help to come reinforce the strike force as soon as they can. [Haughty+Idealist]
>>4330742>>4330766>>4330721Hitting them hard and fast is important, but what is stopping us from merely sending word to our men to come help us while we head off to fight?
>>4330098Supporting this addition.
As this write-in is not really in contravention with the more popular haughty option I will work it in. You won't have the rest of your companions to start with but they may arrive later.
I am editing the Thorns trait as it is comparatively broken compared to the other paths at the same level.(6) The Weak Should Fear the Strong: If you hold the DC advantage in combat gain +1 Combat Re-Roll. If you are at a DC disadvantage, suffer -2DC.
>>4330868Seems fair enough and fits thematically
>The staff of The Hole may have already noticed that Jimmy the Lie is missing. You don’t have time to fetch your other companions, and this strike force will be enough to cow any criminal resistance. You will have to rely on the worthiness of the Zacaraiah’s men, Jess the Kid’s aim and the watchful gaze of Brother Rousseau. [Haughty]>You can't just wait before the staff of the Hole realizes Jimmy the Lie is missing and adjust their plans accordingly, but just as much you must take precautions in your haste. Have a messenger from the Ordo Praetor ride to meet your entourage and solicit their help to come reinforce the strike force as soon as they can. [Haughty+Idealist]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4c5gqyXQU8 – Port Bounty’s finest The Praetor notaries double as squires in a pinch, although they are clearly more comfortable with the pen in hand than the sword. At least the one attending Sir York at least isn’t shaking in his boots. Primus dan Holt has two notaries of his own, though at your request he sends one of them off as a runner to your companions.“Here, take this.” You press your bear totem into the young notaries hand. “Tell them to meet with us down by the dockside with all haste.”>Equipment REMOVED (Bear Totem), your companion reinforcements without long delaysThere is little time for introductions on the way to the dockside, and the garments covering their face beneath the helm are intended to keep their identities anyway. Nonetheless, nervous chatter and a few words from Sir York allow you to make your first impression of the squad. The 17th Rota of the Port Bounty Watch are an eclectic bunch indeed. Zachariah and his two sergeant-at-arms, Leroy and Weyland are all natives of the city from birth, as is the particularly large Kale, but many of the rank-and-file come from all over. Timothy started out as a farmhand from Fallavon-Pascae borders, and the short and prone-to-complaint Glen is a native of Aubrey. There are the two Langlish twins, Paolo and Portio, and of the two on Paolo seems to speak passing Cantīsh. The Cathagi exile, Ayaz, is less prosperous than their compatriot the Patrikas Ianthe, but a great deal better off than most with this steady line of work.There’s even a scarred Norsikaan woman in the squad. In your opinion woman have no place on the battlefield, the female bodyguards of your homeland are trusted bodyguards of young noblewomen due to the obvious lack of any risk of lustful entanglements with their charges rather than their martial prowess. That said, Brittletoe isn’t the first woman with a blade you’ve seen in your travels and you’re beginning to doubt she’ll be the last.[1/3]
“Shit. Lookouts are onto us.” One of the guardsmen grumbles, jerking his head up at the gaggle street urchins running away down side alleys and calling to each other. “How d’ye know they was lookouts, Paolo?”“Because, ‘Kale’, if they wasn’t the piccole merde would have stopped to hurl abuse or worse at us. Now stop using names if you like breathing through the one hole.”“Double-time, Seventeen!” The column picks up the pace as Zachariah bellows over his shoulder.Wherever the ‘lookouts’ were running too, it wasn’t The Hole. The streets are utterly deserted, shutters slam shut and frightened eyes peek out through the gaps as your raiding party spreads out through all the numerous alleyways and entrances into the worst brothel in the world. It’s too cold for a bouncer to be posted outside at this time of night, they must be waiting on the other side. But waiting for customers, not armoured guardsmen. Brittletoe and Ayaz clamber up the side of the building as stealthily as they can, a difficult prospect armoured as they are. They are also completely unaware that Jess the Kid is covering them from the rooftops on the other side of the street. Poalo and Portio siddle up to a window with a loose shutter on the lower-east side, while the main body of men not covering minor-exits crowd around the corner from the main entrance.Zacharaih skirts the whole brothel premise, ducking under windows and steering clear of doorways as he checks the positions of each of his men, tapping their shoulders when satisified and exchanging solemn nods, cheeky winks and nervous grins where called for. For commoner, you have to admit he does seem to command the confidence of his fellow lowborn plus and keen eye for the tactics available in these suffocatingly tight streets. Finally, he returns to your position with the Praetor Primus. Too ill-bred for real command, of course, but the Pascae promotion of commoners to even mid-level officer ranks like his is not so embarrassing if this is their quality. He would have made a passable Master-Sergeant in Father's host. “Ready to breach, my lord.” “Excellent work, Officer. Sir York’s faith in you was not misplaced.” Praetor Primus dan Holt nods, before turning his gravelly expression to you. “Last chance to call it off, Sir Andrei. Say it was all one big mistake.”“No, my lord.” You have little trouble holding the Praetor’s steely gaze this time. You’ve done things, or threatened to do things, that you’re not altogether proud of to get this close as it is. You’ve come too far to back down now. “That ledger is well worth the trouble. I am sure of it.”“Very well then. You may proceed, Officer.” [2/3]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkOJ9uNj9EY – The Hole Raid Theme“Open Up! Pascae Praetor Department!” The pommel of Sergeant Weyland’s weapon makes a startingly clatter on the main entrance to The Hole. “Open up, in the name of the law!”Sir York shrugs at the lack of response from inside. “About what we expected. Bring up the Welcome Wagon.”“I love this job.” The big guardsman, Kale, chuckles as he steps forehead with a massive warhammer in hand. “Knock-fucking-KNOCK!”The crash and splinter of wood, plus the yelp of pain by whoever had decided to bar the door with their own weight, is swiftly drowned out by the screams of alarmed whores and belligerent shouts for surrender from the guardsmen storming The Hole in a sudden barrage of alarm and short-lived violence. “P.P.D.! stand the fuck down!”“P.P.D.! Down! Stay the fuck dow- weapon! Steel blade, red smock behind the column!”“I see him! Give it here! Now take -that-!” “I said stay down, you deaf mother- We got a runner!”“Got him!”“Oof, Cain on the Cross that has -got- to hurt.”“That’s! What you get! For resisting!”“Five years on the chaingang, right there folks!”You witness the Langlish twins rip off the loose window shutter and jump inside before shouting ensues from the room within. “Smetti di resistere, cazzo!” A thin wail and crash as a figure is flung out of the wind, and it's neither one of the twins. “Yeah, what he said!” “P.P.D.! Everyone in this building is under fucking arrest!” The shatter of what may be the only glass window in the building signals the entrance of the guardsmen on the roof. “Oh. Good evening, Councilman. Yes sir, you too I'm afraid. No, you have time to put your pants on, I’m sure.”[3/4]
[4/4]By the time you make your way inside, it’s all over. Shattered glass, spilt wine and overturned tables make the already run-down cheapside brothel look more a sorry scene than you had even imagined. Not that this place looked a picture before the raid either, cheap pillows and patchwork carpet do little to disguise the dirty floors and rotting wood. Customers, some naked or near enough, are lined up against the wall with the staff, bouncers and ‘service providers’. The phrase Courtesan is far too flattering and even the word Whore implies some sort of moxy that is sorely lacking in many of the poor things. The shouting continues as you clamber up the stairs, not entirely trusting the creaking bannister to hold your armoured weight.“And for Reginae’s sake will someone get a blanket or something for the women!”“ ‘Women’ might be stretching it, boss. Fuck me, they’s young.”Jess the Kid is already inside, watching over the heavy iron contraption that is no doubt the strongbox. So anonymous was her stealthy insertion into the room that you have to command the two guardsmen up there to stand down when they realised she had entered in after them. You’ve taken The Hole by storm, with minimal resistance. But time is of the essence, those lookouts where heading off to warn someone. The contraption on the strongbox complicates matters somewhat, it appears easy enough to force open but a glance shows you there is some acid or incendiary device designed to destroy the documents if not handled carefully. ============================================================>Carrying the whole strongbox will slow your party down, perhaps long enough to allow the local gangs to retaliate. But if you can just get it to the Praetor Commandery they will be able to ensure it is disarmed without damaging the documents inside. [Haughty]>The possibility of damaging the ledger inside is real, but the mechanism does not seem too complex. Its workings could be safely disarmed by someone with a nimble hand, like a woman’s. Or even an ermine. You attempt to unlock the strongbox. [Hearty]>You leave that decision to the Primus Pilus, instead securing Jimmy the Lie’s remaining ‘special stock’ and explaining that you are here to rescue them. Almighty knows what you’ll do with them once this is all over, but you’re not leaving them here. [Idealist]
>>4330909>>Carrying the whole strongbox will slow your party down, perhaps long enough to allow the local gangs to retaliate. But if you can just get it to the Praetor Commandery they will be able to ensure it is disarmed without damaging the documents inside. [Haughty]We can't come all this way just to toss away the evidence. It's time for a real fight, and this time we don't have to hold back
>>4330909>You leave that decision to the Primus Pilus, instead securing Jimmy the Lie’s remaining ‘special stock’ and explaining that you are here to rescue them. Almighty knows what you’ll do with them once this is all over, but you’re not leaving them here. [Idealist]
>>4330909>The possibility of damaging the ledger inside is real, but the mechanism does not seem too complex. Its workings could be safely disarmed by someone with a nimble hand, like a woman’s. Or even an ermine. You attempt to unlock the strongbox. [Hearty]With Kid and Dame Stoutsworth we have a good chance to safely opening the strong box.
>>4330909>>You leave that decision to the Primus Pilus, instead securing Jimmy the Lie’s remaining ‘special stock’ and explaining that you are here to rescue them. Almighty knows what you’ll do with them once this is all over, but you’re not leaving them here. [Idealist]
>>4330909>>Carrying the whole strongbox will slow your party down, perhaps long enough to allow the local gangs to retaliate. But if you can just get it to the Praetor Commandery they will be able to ensure it is disarmed without damaging the documents inside. [Haughty]We have backup incoming, they should catch us if anything happens.
>>4330909>The possibility of damaging the ledger inside is real, but the mechanism does not seem too complex. Its workings could be safely disarmed by someone with a nimble hand, like a woman’s. Or even an ermine. You attempt to unlock the strongbox. [Hearty]
>>4330909>The possibility of damaging the ledger inside is real, but the mechanism does not seem too complex. Its workings could be safely disarmed by someone with a nimble hand, like a woman’s. Or even an ermine. You attempt to unlock the strongbox. [Hearty]>You leave that decision to the Primus Pilus, instead securing Jimmy the Lie’s remaining ‘special stock’ and explaining that you are here to rescue them. Almighty knows what you’ll do with them once this is all over, but you’re not leaving them here. [Idealist]we'll need a specalist to open the lock, considering a councilman is already involved I shudder to think who might come to protect the identity of those in the ledger/safe
>>4330909>>Carrying the whole strongbox will slow your party down, perhaps long enough to allow the local gangs to retaliate. But if you can just get it to the Praetor Commandery they will be able to ensure it is disarmed without damaging the documents inside. [Haughty]
>>4330909>>Carrying the whole strongbox will slow your party down, perhaps long enough to allow the local gangs to retaliate. But if you can just get it to the Praetor Commandery they will be able to ensure it is disarmed without damaging the documents inside. [Haughty]+ reassure the children
>You leave that decision to the Primus Pilus, instead securing Jimmy the Lie’s remaining ‘special stock’ and explaining that you are here to rescue them. Almighty knows what you’ll do with them once this is all over, but you’re not leaving them here. [Idealist]If we're going to have a fight anyways I'd rather have it here then in the middle of the street while escorting the box.
Disregard my vote here >>4330929 I posted in haste >Carrying the whole strongbox will slow your party down, perhaps long enough to allow the local gangs to retaliate. But if you can just get it to the Praetor Commandery they will be able to ensure it is disarmed without damaging the documents inside. [Haughty]>The possibility of damaging the ledger inside is real, but the mechanism does not seem too complex. Its workings could be safely disarmed by someone with a nimble hand, like a woman’s. Or even an ermine. You attempt to unlock the strongbox. [Hearty]
If we run away with the box and abandon the children here, then they will almost certainly be killed to prevent them from being used as witnesses and evidence. We'll be exposed to ambushes and assaults in the streets if we leave the brothel since they're gang territory, and the box will slow us down considerably. Also, don't forget that our current numbers are too few to be enough to withstand open combat against the gangs in the streets. We should use the brothel as a defensive position till the reinforcements we sent for arrive and then leave once our numbers get bolstered.
>>4330909Should we leave rest investigation to Primus Pilus and head to the port ourselves? Because if culprit is running away obviously it will be via ship right? Do to slaves and such, at least this is my hunch
>>4330951The problem there is we don't know exactly who the culprit is right? We can't stop random people from getting on boats and sailing away
>>4330949>We'll be exposed to ambushes and assaults in the streets if we leave the brothel since they're gang territory, and the box will slow us down considerably. Also, don't forget that our current numbers are too few to be enough to withstand open combat against the gangs in the streets. We should use the brothel as a defensive position till the reinforcements we sent for arrive and then leave once our numbers get bolstered.This, the stairs will serve as a good chokepoint to neutralise their superior numbers. Also once our companions arrive we can crush them from both sides.
>>4330958Yes. Once reinforcements arrive they'll attack their rear which will force them to retreat since they'll be surrounded from both sides. Jess should also head to the rooftop as it will give her a very advantageous position for her ranged role.One important thing I forgot to mention is the Strongbox's sensitive contraption mechanism.>The contraption on the strongbox complicates matters somewhat, it appears easy enough to force open but a glance shows you there is some acid or incendiary device designed to destroy the documents if not handled carefully.If we leave the defensive position of the brothel and decide to fight them in the exposed open streets, then they wouldn't even need to fight us to destroy the Strongbox. They can just use their ranged members to shoot at it to make it destroy itself since it won't have the protection of the brothel's walls.
>>4330981>They can just use their ranged members to shoot at it to make it destroy itself since it won't have the protection of the brothel's walls.That honestly seems a little far fetched for a street brawl with some thugs. We don't know the exact workings of the mechanism but my guess would be that its somehow connected to the lock to prevent tampering etc. It doesn't seem likely the regular gang members would know anything about it either. I suppose they could be told, but how many would be able to pick it out from from the rest of the strongbox and successfully fire an arrow at it amidst all the fighting in the streets?
>>4330987If we could evacuate it or wait for reinforcements to secure the area, Jimmy should know how to disarm the mechanism since he should need to to access the ledger.
>>4330981That is unless they decide its better off if it all disappears and then set the building on fire. Everything in here is a law enforcement agent, evidence or a witness.
>>4330987They're not just some street thugs. They're the bodyguards and actual bosses of the brothel. Jimmy is just their tool.>He were even after the healthier ones, high earners. Plenty of mileage left in ‘em. I said no, e’en when he upped his offers. Coffin Nails would have had my balls if he caught me selling the dregs, let alone healthy stock.”They absolutely know of the Strongbox and how to destroy it too.>This Coffin Nail, he likes an account kept of his businesses. Likes to know where the money is flowing to. And from.”>Yes?”>“And I doubt he takes your word for it.”>“…No.”>“You know what I’m asking, copper-clipper. Don’t be difficult about it.”>“There’s… there’s a ledger. Strongbox, top shelf in the room upstairs to the left. It’s got sums, names… services.”>I suppose they could be told, but how many would be able to pick it out from from the rest of the strongbox and successfully fire an arrow at it amidst all the fighting in the streets?It's a huge ass box that is big enough to slow our group considerably just by carrying it with us. They'll be everywhere (rooftops, windows, etc) since the streets are their own territory, and there will be multiple ranged units with them. No way they won't be able to pick it out while we're completely exposed in the open streets. They will all be shooting at the same target, so it's definitely going to be receiving multiple arrows no question about it.
>>4330914>>4330909>The possibility of damaging the ledger inside is real, but the mechanism does not seem too complex. Its workings could be safely disarmed by someone with a nimble hand, like a woman’s. Or even an ermine. You attempt to unlock the strongbox. [Hearty]>You leave that decision to the Primus Pilus, instead securing Jimmy the Lie’s remaining ‘special stock’ and explaining that you are here to rescue them. Almighty knows what you’ll do with them once this is all over, but you’re not leaving them here. [Idealist]Actually can we do both? Kid and Dame Stoutsworth open the strongbox while we secure the children. Also maybe we can take the oldest as a servant an extra hand do errands and take care of the animals while Mikail focus on train, his squire duties and Orin focuses guarding and being an extra sword arm.
>>4330993For reference I was referring to the mechanism to destroy the evidence, not the box itself. >They're not just some street thugs. They're the bodyguards and actual bosses of the brothel. Jimmy is just their tool.Some of them sure, but lets be realistic the majority of the combatants are likely to be low-level thugs picked up by the gangs for extra muscle. It's unlikely the gangs are financing and keeping around a bunch of well trained, well armed mercs etc
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