>>4222471
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUxTK6RtACk
Study, cut up, and research geneseeds when

>>4222471
You opt to offer the Varyagians surrender, as they have been thoroughly cowed by superior weapons, numbers and technology.

While relations between the humans and Varyagians of Halon Secundus have historically been hostile, there are occasional incidents of trade and cooperation. The most common being rogue merchants smuggling and trading superior human-made weapons and armor for gold and Varyagian trinkets...

Red Brotherhood patrols often have to work break up such rendevous and kill or arrest any suspected smugglers on sight. Fortunately a handful of such men were captured a few weeks ago and are currently languishing in the dungeons of the Red Fort...

With siege laid to the last main cave-city of the Varyagians, the smugglers are brought out with vox-speakers to demand the immediate surrender of the Varyagians....

Rolled 100 + 20 (1d100 + 20)

>>4222504
Roll difficulty 60
Hostile primitive Xenos 60

Roll bonuses
Overwhelming force +20

>>4222508
Much to your surprise the primitive Xenos rather than fight to the death begin filing out of their cave city in front of your main force, first in small groups, the trickle eventually becoming a river, as over 10,000 of them prostate themselves on the ground, in front of your main force, the flag of House Blackwood, flying high above where you stand with your bodyguard troops on a ridge overlooking the siege....

There is both good and bad news however, as your first scouts into the cave-city while facing no resistance have reason to believe that they have tunnels underground to possibly more cities deeper in the planet and farther north, virtually unreachable except for by small tunnels where only one man at a time can pass through.

The good news is that the primitives were sitting on a motherlode of valuable mineral ores, with several gold, iron and copper mines being found, the Xenos too primitive to understand their true value and exploit the resources....

The presumed psykers. their frost priests and priestesses are the leaders in their society, and gave the order for the people to surrender in the face of such overwhelming odds....

What should we do with these Xeno scum?

A. Build a camp for them to put them in for the time being
B. Set them to work mining the mineral ore
C. Kill them all now that they have exposed themselves
D. Separate out a handful for use a test subjects(can be combined with other answers)
E. Kill every pysker among them immediately(Can be combined with other answers)
F. Other(Write-in)

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>>4222508
>100
Noice
D. Separate out a handful for use a test subjects(can be combined with other answers)
F. Other(Write-in)
Specifically separate the pysker. We won't kill them immediately. That comes later. Drug them if need be.

>they have tunnels underground to possibly more cities deeper in the planet and farther north, virtually unreachable except for by small tunnels where only one man at a time can pass through.
Pic related going down a tunnel one at a time could be managed. We'll interrogate some of their numbers for information regarding traps and layouts of other cities or suffer the punishment of death for their and their family.

>>4222523
>B. Set them to work mining the mineral ore
>D

>>4222555
specifically separate the psykers

>>4222555
Changing vote to this, but holding out to explore the other cities later.

>>4222523
Any message from uncle?

>>4222523
>D. Separate out a handful for use a test subjects
>E. Kill every pysker among them immediately
>B. Set them to work mining the mineral ore

>>4222570
You got a vague message back that he may have a buyer lined up if you can provide live samples, less likely if their dead

>>4222686
Nice. Let's bag a couple (when I say couple I mean all the pysker and a hundred regular ones), put them in stasis crates and ship them off.

But after we've stabilized the planet. First we aught to set a temple to build up it's infrastructure and crop yield, leave an overseer to plan things out then head off for a couple of days to sell the foul xenos.

>>4222523
A. Build a camp for them to put them in for the time being
B. Set them to work mining the mineral ore
D. Separate out a handful for use a test subjects(can be combined with other answers)

>>4222727
>>4222663
>>4222555
>>4222549
You decide to separate out the frost priest psykers and some members of the regular population and ship them off to your pysker prison for safe keeping until you have a buyer or figure out what to do with them.

With the great mineral wealth you have discovered you order a mechanist expedition put together with the intent of establishing a mining outpost at their former city.

The rest of the population is put to work in the mines, working to build the wealth of their former enemies.

With their frost priest leaders taken away, the Varyagians have become discontented in a short time. We need to decide a long term plan to deal with the Varyagians

A. Work them harder, and make conditions so bad that they will die off within a decade or so
B. Exterminate them once the mining operation is set up
C. Attempt to integrate them into your realm as second-class citizens, where their skills as psykers, mining and underground/nocturnal combat can be put to use for House Blackwood
D. Other(Write-in)

>>4222739
D) consult the Imperium

>>4222790
+1

>>4222739
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Xenos
I need to do some reading.

>A. Work them harder, and make conditions so bad that they will die off within a decade or so
>D. Other(Write-in)
This but with a caveat that should they oust any hidden pysker, or magic users in their primitive minds, they shall receive certain stipulations and luxuries for a time. More food, better accommodations, a few more hours of sleep.

>>4222686
As mentioned here we'll keep doing this until we get a better idea of how much these aliens would go for on the market or by our uncle's contact, once we deliver them. If we get a good price then we might as well run some numbers, ask the locals the odds of a Varyagian being a magic user, and consider if they might be worth keeping around as live stock for the purpose of selling their psykers and normal people if they prove to more worth more alive then exterminating their entire race.

>>4222790
>>4222796
Technically we are the Imperium, as we are a part of it.
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Planetary_Governor
Generally as the Planetary Governor we're allowed a wide birth of freedom on how we rule our world(s). So long as it's not too heretical and we meet our Tithes quota, the Imperium is happy to let us be. At least that's what a video said.

>>4222739
>Attempt to integrate them into your realm as second-class citizens, where their skills as psykers, mining and underground/nocturnal combat can be put to use for House Blackwood

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>>4222790
>>4222796
You can't exactly do that as the Imperium itself is a galaxy wide organization spanning millions of worlds. Lest not normally. You got something more narrow in mind? Something specific?

I get the feeling the two of you already know the answer to that. It usually stats with "purge" and end with "xenos", and from the standpoint of a Planetary Governor that needs fundings to improve his two worlds that's not a very profitable move.

>>4222739
>A. Work them harder, and make conditions so bad that they will die off within a decade or so
This risks a revolt, but I imagine it won't be too big a deal if they do.

>>4222799
>>4222815
Maybe a little of both

>>4222835
i just wanna make sure c) won't end up with a visit from the local space marine chapter or inquisitorium if thats the option we go towards

>>4222924
If you're worried that a space marine chapter or Inquisitorium will come by to interject, then why not go with A? They'll die out eventually, and we'll reap the rewards.

>>4222790
>>4222796
>>4222835
>>4222930
>>4222924

So you can't really just ask the Imperium,nobody important is going to take a call from some Governor on a minor frontier planet and asking the Inquisition for advice is a bit like asking the cops if its ok to smoke just a little bit of crack, but mostly dispose of it.

The only person with any kind of influence and power that we know is our uncle, who really doesn't care what we do as long as we keep making money and keep the planet in the family.

I think that as a frontier planet we aren't on anyone's radar, also think of what a scheming and greedy Rogue Trader house member would do.

>>4223102
To further this point, if our system becomes more influential and powerful there will be more scrutiny. However nobody important made anything of themselves in the Imperium without taking risks

>>4222790
>>4222796
So what now?

>>4223102
> B. Exterminate them once the mining operation is set up

>>4223128
I'm not keep on killing them all immediately in case they're worth something. If we go with choice A then we can focus human resources else where like the construction of more modern facilities and advanced agriculture, where as the Varyagians will work themselves to death doing jobs nobody wants. As Shmeh said we aren't on anyone's radar.

>>4223102
Did enslaving the aliens endear us to our geno warriors at all?

>>4223102
Did we repair the damages to our new ship?
How much to add better void shield to our two original ships?
How much to add more guns to them?

link to prev thread?

>>4223491
>>4185783
Still needs to be achieved I think

>>4222739
D

For the moment put them to hard work, second contact our uncle he did mention that is Mechanicus contact was interested in xenos. The psykers of this xenos should be interesting to him, and we need thrones.

>>4222739
>B

>>4223463
>>4223486
The Geno-Lords don’t care very much either way on the xeno slaves, although they might enjoy being gifted a small number of them to keep as exotic pets for people to gawk at

>>4223486
All 3 of our ships are in need of repair. As your 2 original ships were damaged when your uncle gave them to us. Only the Bold venture really has the capacity for upgrades, with additional armor, weapons storage space or hangar bays for strike craft able to be added on

>>4222864
>>4222799
>>4223556
For now you decide to push the Varyagians harder, rewarding them for outing any psykers and for general loyalty, with additional rest and rations.

Your uncle has finally gotten back to you with the offer from a buyer, 10 psykers and non-psykers are required. They will deliver 100,000 thrones for the specimens and your uncle will send a ship to pick them up in the next few weeks with payment in tow.

With Secundus stabilized for now, and our coffers refilled, whats your next move?

Whats our next move?

A. Improving/expanding the Imperial settlement
C. Building up the PDF
D. Send expeditions into the desert to explore for oil deposits
E. Improving and expanding infrastructure
F. Fund an expedition to search for mineral deposits in the mountains
G. Expanding the internal security forces
H. Repairing the space station
I. Other(Write-in)

>>4223922

E. Improving and expanding infrastructure


Buid railroads and roads in Halon Secundus, for connect the different settlements. This should help the primitive world in transportation and trade.

>>4223922
enact those prisoners to slaves or temporary servitude like suggested in the last few threads.

>>4223922
Are you asking what we should do for Primus or Secundus?

>>4223949
>Buid railroads and roads in Halon Secundus, for connect the different settlements. This should help the primitive world in transportation and trade.
We've already done that I believe in the form of air ships or as you said railroads.
Oh you mean for secundus.

>>4223961
>>4223949
>>4223952
These options are for Primaris. We have stabilized Secundus for now but it will take time for their people to get accustomed to our rule and technology

>>4223949
>>4223922
Thread #1
>You decide to focus first on binding your world through trade, commerce and communications by consulting the mechanist guild for support on infrastructure projects
>There are two main proposals at this time each running about 20,000 thrones to implement, assuming we use guild workers of course...
>Rail lines can be run between every major settlement and some of the minor ones too, creating commercial bloodlines through your lands, that can be further developed
>There is also a proposal to take advantage of the planets lighter gravity and to use airships, building airship ports at each major settlement and some minor ones as well
>Overall the rail lines make stronger economic sense, but the airships can provide fast passenger, and light freight travel on your new planet
>Finally, while this will anger the Mechanist guild, you could use slave labor from the Geno-lords, which significantly reduce the expense of the projects
>A. Build the rail-line system(20,000 thrones)
>B. Build the airship network(20,000 thrones)
>C. Do either using slave labor(half-cost, -1 relations with mountain realms, +1 relations with Geno-lords)
>D. Other(Write-in)
I don't know about the cost in Secundus, but from thread 1 setting rail lines or airship networks costed 20k thrones. I'm not sure if the airship idea is viable here since it only worked in the last planet due to lighter gravity or something

If we use the Varyagians as a labor force to build rails on Secundus, would it only cost us 10k in thrones?

>>4224003
Aaaaaah roight. By what estimates does our Admins think it's take for Secundus to be brought up to date? Say, If we bring a labor force of Varyagians to Primus, could we use them as a cheap labor force for building things, or would that not work because they're uneducated?

I still think we should do the "turn prisoners into slaves to save some thrones on the yearly prison expenses in addition to building a better rapport with the geno lords and mountain people" idea.

>>4223922
>E. Improving and expanding infrastructure

>>4224003
Would using human and Varyagian prisoners be cheaper?

>>4224013
> A. Build the rail-line system (20,000 thrones)

>>4224055
>Slaves are sent out under the supervision and watchful eye of guild engineers to build the rail lines, laying tracks, grading terrain to flatten it, and using explosives and mining equipment to create tunnels through mountains and rough terrain, while others use construction equipment to build bridges to ford rivers.
No....anon please. We did that already in the last thread.

>>4223922
>H. Repairing the space station

>>4224033
>>4224013
>>4223949

Secundus does have heavier gravity, but improved airship designs could still work there.

The Varyagians are extremely primitive, and could only use the most basic manual equipment without time and training, they also have grown slightly rebellious so using them as slaves on Primus is not a good idea right now.

It will take time to develop Secundus and bring it up to speed. To start we will need to wait until the mechanist mining base is set up, which will estabilsh a second foothold on the planet. Then we will need to bring in Imperial settlers of settlers from Primus to join their existing cities or set up a new settlement. The more advanced and loyal settlers will be the basis for our administration and security forces on the planet initially, as we integrate the rest of the people on it over time

>>4224149
Use Penal Legion collars on then when the time comes. Got it.
How much would it cost to repair the space station again? was it 45k or 95k?

>>4224026
Why do you want to improve and expand infrastructure?

>>4224116
Why do you want to Repair the space station?

>>4224162
why not

>>4224170
Because we could utilize the yearly budget into something else, like industry so we can make more money, or utilize prisoner labor instead of slave labor. What is there we can do with a space station at this point? What purpose would it serve? Can you think of any uses.

>>4224179
increase defense and observation of our space, trade/refuelling station, lab, shipyard to name a few

>>4224162

Infrastructure is useful for several things and it help the planet development

>>4224162
>>4224170
>>4224179
>>4224183
>>4224189
I will say that Infrastructure, Industry and the space station all have short term and long term income opportunities

>>4222799
>>4224003

This may be a little late of a reply. But here goes anyway.

>D. Do what the Romans would have done.

Workers go to the mines, except those who wish to join the military as sanctioned xenos auxiliaries, then after two tours of duty (10 years) they are no longer slaves and allowed to become free'd men. The carrot on the string is real too, which should only add to their fervor to be ferocious warriors.

Actually that will help with our tithe quota aswell.

There is history in the table top that Kroot can work for Imperial guard as mercs and sanctioned xenos. RT's also have the authority to use them in the RPG.

>>4224220
So I've read a little about Rogue Traders but I'm not sure about all the details that entails it's role. So you get a script that had been at one point signed in pen or blood by the emperor saying that you can go about doing trade related stuff in the name of the emperor. That's what our uncle is, and everyone before him. Our whole family is built around Rogue Tradering and we have our own little slice of the galaxy for our Blackwood Dynasty. What I'm not totally sure is if multiple Rogue Traders can make use of the one script signed by the emperor, or it's only a one at a time thing with the predecessor giving the script to their scion/successor.

Uuuuh. Actually you know what? if what you're saying is true, then all we have to do is have our uncle sanction the xenos so we can use them like a penal colony. Ok maybe not a like a penal legion. The only issue being having to train them and the risk of insurrection attempts. An additional problem to deal with would be to figure out what to do with them after 10 years, and if they're any better than human soldiers. I'd be down to supporting this idea if we could iron out the details.

>>4224192
What's our funding level at? In hindsight I'll support repairing the Space Station. it might make repairing our ships easier, and the possibility of space to planetary trade would be nice.

>>4224238
Basically, weather or not we can borrow the authority of the RT depends on our relationship with them AND if one of our rivals is looking for an opportunity to declare heresy on us. Then it becomes a question of who has the highest authority.

For example, an Imperial Guard General could declare some Kroot sanctioned xenos and use them as auxiliaries just like ratlings or orgryns. However that doesn't mean a hard-line inquisitor couldn't declare heresy on them, however more moderate inquisitor might declare them his personal guard!

So its a purposefully grey area. However using xenos to mine is a grand tradition in the imperium.

>>4224298
If there's little to no risk of making the willing ones into a regiment of xeno soldiers, I see no reason why we should. I'd support it, but I'd still prefer to keep them as work slaves for that 0% chance of insurrection.

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>>4223922
>C. Building up the PDF

Ok so i have this idea for shredder armour for our guards.

Its cheap and basically like putting bayonets on everything!

It'll give melee units a hard time, which just about every enemy army is.

Added to that we could say that our troops could parry even when unarmed.

We could roll it out to our honor guard first for testing if you like.

>>4224312
Oh we can make sure we outnumber them 10 to 1. Outfit them with only lasguns, no tanks or special weapons.

>>4224317
Heresy

>>4224313
The idea is hilarious and I'm tempted to agree, but let's put this through our hired verterans to get an idea if it's viable. If the metals were made of Plasteel or something I could see it working.

>>4224321
So you saying you want to arm them with tanks and special weapons?

>>4224325
no, arming them with anything would heresy.

>>4224312
Also heresy

>>4224333
no u

>>4224335
*BLAM* Heresy!

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Blam

>>4224369
Oh so you like 1d4chan eh?

Checkmate.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Chapter_Approved/Kroot_Mercenaries

>>4224369
*reverse card*

>>4224402
Yes they fight for Tau as mercenaries

>>4224419
Look again.

Srsly its under the section Armoury.

Their shaper can have weapons from their ally, such as a flamer. I know this because i have the original chapter approved.

But i dont want a flame war on this, OR set us down the path to actual heresy.
We have 2 vs 1 votes on this so lets just see what OP says. k?

>>4224476
You do they can be battlesavage. Also its this is completely unofficial.

But some Rogue Trader may have few Kroot. Radical member of Ordo Xenos may also have one or two. Both Rogue Traders and Inquisition can have xenos in some cases under their command.

But we are neither and regiment is too much for Inquisition to overlook

>>4224476
>>4224414
>>4224419
>>4224369
I don't have a problem with using Xeno Auxiliaries in our forces. I think that you are right in that the Imperium is practically built on legal gray areas, and this is one of them. As I said earlier I think your chances of getting in trouble are extremely low at this point, as this system is on the ass-end frontier of Imperial space, and your connections with your Uncle, a powerful Rogue Trader who is influential in the region.

As things stand now, I think we can table the discussion on what to do with the Varyagians long-term, and have them work the mines for the time being

>>4224162
>>4224238

45k for a basic repair job, to make it livable again, 95k total to arm and armor the station

We have 75k on hand

>>4224527
Hmmm. Yeah let's do it. 45k to fully repair the station, then we invest the 30k in other resources like looking for more natural resourses to exploit.

>>4224116
>>4224238
I think this has the majority for the basic station repair.

You work with some of your ship's tech priests to get the materials and equipment to repair the station, its bad state of disrepair forcing the replacement of most consoles, cogitators and view screens, while the entire life support system and airlocks had to be completely reworked as well.

Based on what they have told you, they expect the station to be livable within 2-3 months, with a fully functional habitation section, hangar bays and several large empty bays, that can can be converted into special use areas, or simply left as storage for the time being.

The station gives you a way to permanently watch Primaris from orbit and allows you to keep watch over the system even if your ships are away.

It can be expanded/specialized/and uparmed/armored int he future, when it is finished and we have more cash

This brings the cash reserves down to 30k.

>>4224543
Now there seems to be some desire for reform to the current slavery laws on Primaris, note that reforms may upset the two factions of the planet

Excerpt from 1st thread, where we first hashed this out

Slaves are to be paid a small wage, and be permitted to purchase their own freedom, or serve in the PDF or civil services for a period of 10 years, during which their wages will be paid to their master, and after which they will be granted emancipation for their service to House Blackwood

Thus far a small number of former slaves have moved to the Imperial settlement to work as admins or join your PDF forces, however, reforms implemented by the Geno-Lords, including the small wage paid to the slaves and improving conditions and their equipment to work with has dramatically reduced their interest in leaving.

Please make a brief description of your plan, and a cogent, but brief argument in its favor. If they seem to pick up support I will hold a vote to implement the new laws, or keep the old law in place.

>>4224557
We could support geno-lords to do more reforms like educate them more as they would be as whole more useful popolation. Plus why unhappy slave keep when you can happy and loyal citizen.

>>4224557
Gimme a sec. I have go dig though the other threads for notes.

>>4224557
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/4153696/

Link to thread #1

>>4224557
Those slavery laws seem quite reasonable to me.

2nd this
>>4224535

Can we do this?
>>4224313
>>4224325

I wasnt here for the earlier threads.

Now that we've repaired the space station are there any significant trade contacts we can make, thus usaing the station to hold tradeable resources from the planet(s)?

>>4224654
Welcome to heresy. some dudes sold humans.

>>4224557
Should we have a pastebin for all the people we assign to our administratum, kits, planet levels of tech, etc.?
As mentioned in the previous threat we could do some sort of zooo / hunting gig for the lions to drum up imcome for newcomers.

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>>4193721
>>4202946
>In regards to the idea of turning prisoners into slaves for the genolords, what if instead of spending more thrones to invest in the planet's prison system, we have these criminals sentenced to enthrallment for a duration dependent on the severity of their crimes. Petty thieves, muggings, misuse of public property (depending on the severity) could lead to them serving the whims of the genolord from weeks, to months, to even decades. Criminals who committed grievous crimes that are usually sentenced to death or are death row inmates can be given over to the genolord indefinitely until they eventually expire or in the odds we need expendables. Criminals for life can replace slave that actually wish to leave, and temporary slaves will like wise replace the positions of a small handful until the end of their service, which they will be replaced with another. At the minimum of 5% of slave will be traded out as a test of this new law. If successful it might be increased.

>Prisoners turned slaves will not be compensated by the Governor though it would be up to the genolords digressions as to what they would want to do with them- however non-death row inmates shall not be needlessly killed, nor crippled for life, unless they're legitimate scum. I expect some amounts of human decency to be given but maybe I'm setting my expectations too high.

>If anyone is caught falsely sentencing people unjustly into slavery/indentured servitude then they to risk being sentence into the very same system they wished to abuse. This system is not to be abused by neither man and woman, nor geno-warrior. Like wise if a slave were to falsify a crime against their master, the duration of their service is to be extended.

>Children born into slaver by criminals will be sentenced to foster homes (no raping people who only did minion infractions like steal bread).

>Criminals turned slaves, once their servitude is over, will have the option to continue serving the genolord if they so wish to. I understand some lord treat their subjects better than most.

>In the special case where a genowarrior has unlawfully sentenced any man, worman, or child into slavery will come under the custody and personal supervision of the governor (us).

This is what I have so far. What do you guys think? What sorts of rebuttals will the Geno-lords, Mountain people and other factions have?

>>4224557
Slavery is permitted under a few conditions, as punitive, war bounty, voluntarily/contract enslavement, or to clear debt.

Punitive slavery may be a sentence as a means to make amends to the community(ies) or individual(s) that the individual has made serious offence or damages to for a set time or as deemed if they are able or skilled to in instances of material damages to repair or fix said damages.

Prisoners or captured enemies of the state or Imperium may be enslaved for as long as desired for their crimes against the Imperium, and have limited rights even insofar as to be executed at the whims of their owners under approved execution methods with little consequence.

Voluntary slavery or contract slavery. If to parties agree to a master slave contract, the master is therefore allowed to do as they wish with the slave so long as the slave is not murdered, maimed, or starved to death. A voluntarily master slave contract must have reasonable conditions for which either master or slave may choose to mutually end the contract. Breaking a contract may before its expiry or conditions being met will hold punitive and reparational consequences for party or individual breaking the contract.

Debt slavery may be agreed upon by to groups or parties similar to contractual/voluntary slavery, in which outstanding debt is own to one party to another as a means of settling a debt or until the debt is forgiven early by the person owed the debt. The debt must be a set amount proven to be owed by the either the debtor or debtee. With similar rights to that of contractual/voluntary slavery.

Serious criminal offenders like child rapists and cannibals get turned into servitors or just executed.

>>4224878
hey that's pretty good.

>>4224715
>>4224878
I understand the idea of turning criminals into slaves or even having a more regulated form of contractual
Slavery. But what are we going to do with the existing slave population? It’s still very large. Even if you enslaved all the criminals, even the lost petty ones, it would only be a small % of the total slave work force today.

>>4225919
*small petty ones

>>4224878
Starting to sound more like indentured servitude which in 40k even tech priests can be indentured to the ecclesiarchy.

We Rome now.

>>4224026
+1

>>4225919
If the system works then we just throw more prisoners at em. Not enough prisoners? Well I guess we could grasp prisoners from a neighboring place or something.

>>4226025
So are you saying to free the current slaves and replace with them with a prisoner based system? The Geno-Lords will not like this, also we will have to start buying prisoners and capturing people from other places to provide labor under this plan

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>>4226025
>>4224878
>>4224715
So let's hold a vote on this then to keep the thread moving

Option proposed by several players is to change the current slavery system

Described here>>4224557

With a system based around using prisoners/criminals as slave labor.

Described here and here
>>4224715
>>4224878

What should we do? The Prisoner system will hurt relations with Geno-Lords but improve relations with the Mountain realms

A. Keep the current system
B. Set up the prisoner based system(+2 Mountain Realms, -2 Geno-Lords)

>>4226107
> A. Keep the current system

>>4226053
Sort of? Yes no? Why wouldnt the geno lord like this idea exactly? I'm not saying we replace all their slaves. Just whatever we can with what prisoners are on the planet without fucking up balance of the prison system and slaves.

>>4226107
I still want to know just *why* the geno lords dont like the idea. They'll still have the same number of slaves as before. We're swapping out slaves for whatever number of prisoners we have.

>>4226126
Ok so maybe I misunderstood the plan. What would happen with the current slaves, and children born to current slaves?

>>4226126
They would be upset if we took most of their slaves away and replaced some of them criminal prisoners, who by nature would make bad slaves, as they would likely be resistant, violent and independent minded, compared to a relatively docile slave population who have been enslaved for thousands of years.

>>4226126
I just read your post again, it looks like you just want to replace a small # of their slaves with criminals, which is more doable but I still think the Geno-Lords wouldnt like it for these reasons>>4226129

I am changing the status effect from +2/-2 to +1/-1

>>4226107
>A. Keep the current system

>>4226128
Well what happened to the children born slaves before we arrived?

>>4226129
Apparently these lords dont know how to apply Imperium grade psycho therapy. We could "indoctrinate" some of them into being docile. The ones for death row I mean. Therea also the use of shock/bomb collars to keep them in line.

If we did do this would we save some thrones?

>>4226107
> A. Keep the current system

As it is slaves can be free'd after 10 years in the PDF or purchase their freedom or simply move to the imperial settlement for better prospects.

What we really need to focus on is keeping the balance of power between the gene-lords and the mountain realms. I can see them striking out against each other to improve their standing.

>>4226149
They continue being slaves
>>4226149
The Geno-Lords used old school fear and carrot/stick tactics to keep the slaves in line. They were industrial age before, with some feudal features in their political system. Bomb collars and the like would cost some money but might save some in the long run.

There was only a little indoctrination in the sense that their system encouraged slaves to keep their head down and continue working, and accept their lot in life, but not advanced psycho therapy mind control type stuff

>>4226107
>A. Keep the current system

>>4226107

A. Keep the current system

>>4226159
Well there doesn't seem to be much of a point to changing the system it sees.
So it looks like out standing is high enough to where we can start modifying and experimenting on genolord? In an attempt to stabolize the mental issues of old age and possible make them live for longer?

>>4226129
So I get some slaves might be resistant, violent, and independent, but would some executions and whippings help dissuade them from mischief and convince them from not causing trouble?

>>4226205
>>4226182
>>4226154
>>4226147
>>4226125
You opt to keep the current system in place for the time being.

It pleases you to see that Halon Primaris and the Imperial Settlement in particular have grown significantly in just the 3 years you have ruled the planet. Trade has bound the world together, and old enmities are slowly but surely disapearing in favor of a more unified culture and identity.

This has culminated the official opening of the space station, with a mixed crew and staff from the Mountain Realms, Geno Realms and the fleet/Imperial settlement.

It takes almost 3 months for your uncles ships with the payment for the Varyagian Psykers to arrive, but works out as they are the first customers of your new space station.

The arrival of the freighter captain, a distant cousin of yours and his crew provides you with some ideas for opportunities for the space station.

You host your cousin for dinner and drinks for the Bold Venture, and talk of the larger Blackwoods families dramas and successes. Unfortunately aside from a few very basic bars and restaraunts, and very basic living spaces, the station doesn't have a true hospitality suite for passing travelers and visitors. For this same reason, your cousin did not allow his crew shore leave, as drunken sailors are not the most civilized guests, and we do not have the ability to accomodate them on the station either, and while you want to expose your people to Imperial culture, a bunch of drunken, horny sailors blowing off steam is not the first type of exposure you want them to get from the Greater Imperium.

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>>4226283
The ship's arrival also brings back a surprise, Lord Rene Foulchier,Captain-Commander of the Company of the Star mercenary company and a few dozen of his Geno-warrior companions.

They have served your uncle as hired muscle for the better part of two years, Lord Rene, a young second son of a Geno-Lord house, now looks the part of a hardened mercenary captain, wearing a massive fur pelt on his back and shoulders, over custom carapace armor, and carrying a gilded Eidolian bloodsword and a massive scar over his face, where he has lost an eye, replaced by a high-end bionic.

(Pic related, except he's younger)

He has his men, a few of which are retiring from mercenary life, have come to find new recruits, bring home their wealth, and the bodies and personal effect of the fallen.

You are surprised to hear that the Company has been such a success, your uncle wants to extend their contract and give them more work. and to that end Lord Rene, is expanding the company from 500 to 1000 Geno-warriors, recruiting more young Geno-Lords who have a taste for adventure and glory.

As part of your finder's fee for the mercenaries, you have also received an additional 50,000 thrones from the contract extension.

While you appreciate the cash, there is now a concern of your Geno-warrior manpower being drained faster than you'd like. How should we deal with this mercenary recruitment in the future.

A. End this practice, the mercenaries will have to find recruits elsewhere(Geno-Lords -1 relations)
B. Negotiate with your uncle to increase your finder's fee as you need to compensated for the loss of manpower
C. Allow the practice to continue and work with the Geno-Lords Gene-crafters to produce more warriors
D. B & C combination
E. Other(Write-in)

>>4226313

>C

No reason to stop exporting warriors

>>4226313
>C.

I can see a bright future for us in the mercenary merchant trade.

All we need to do is, breed more, provide them with high-end training and high-end weapons for a finished product fee.

We just need to accrue some better tech weapons.

This also simultaneously deals with the problem of the geno-lords looking for a fight without one to go to.

All negotiations can go through our space station.

>>4226313
>C. Allow the practice to continue and work with the Geno-Lords Gene-crafters to produce more warriors
As great as their success is, Geno warriors do not grow on trees. Maybe if he gives us a little more time. How long will Lord Rene be staying at his homeworld?

>>4226336
Oooooh better training and equipment means we can afford to charge more. Our relationship with the Genolords is at a 3, so at this point they may consider implementing a different more effecting training regiment and drills. In regards to war gear we do have a vaults worth of Thousand Sons space marines equipment. The issue is that we have no means to replicate or create new ones should they be lost. Perhaps after we inprove the space station further we can work on Primus's industrial and see if we can replicate bolters and more heavy grade carapace armors.

>>4226313
>D. B & C combination

>>4226313
Question for you Shmeh: Did the genowarriors that fought the Body Snatchers learn anything from the encounter? Will they consider group exercises? Are we getting payed more from their company expansion by 100k now?

>>4226358
>>4226348
>>4226320
>>4226336
Taking advantage of your strong support among the Geno-Lords, you have requested a meeting with the Great Houses to discuss the creation of more warriors, given the current military considerations and growing mercenary activity.

While Geno-warrior creation had been significantly curtailed for the last few centuries due to high numbers of Genos relative to fiefs and the loss of territory from the Mountain realm's independence, they are willing to allow the implantation of Geno-warriors at a much higher pace, with enough genetic material stored at the moment to raise up to 100,000 more Geno-warriors

While some adults can be implanted, it works best on boys 10-12 years old, it will require either forcibly recruited children or volunteers to build a geno-army.

In the mean time, you could have some of your personal guard, implanted, along with yourself.(there are a small risk of severe side-effects, including infertility)

A. Have yourself and some select followers implanted with geno-warrior enhancements
B. Have some willing followers implanted
C. Hold off for now
D. Other(Write-in)

>>4226370
The Geno-warriors that fought the Body-snatchers did gain some experience which they have shared with other Geno-troops in your army. We aren't getting paid for them, as they are not mercenaries, they are warriors tithed to us directly by the Geno-Lords

>>4226348
Lord Rene and his men will be staying for a month or two, until they have recruited enough new men to fill the company and replace their losses. A few of the retiring warriors can be retained by House Blackwood to help train your other Geno-warriors as the mercenaries fought some human rebels/pirates, Ferusian Xenos and succesfully executed a boarding action against another ship

>>4226383
>set up a government run orphanage to take in children implant them with the gene seed and raise them as loyal warriors

>>4226383
>B. Have some willing followers implanted

>>4226383
>While some adults can be implanted, it works best on boys 10-12 years old, it will require either forcibly recruited children or volunteers to build a geno-army.
volunteers are preferable.

Now this comes as an odd request for our distant cousin, but would he be able to get us some orphaned human children? preferably orphans from some shitty world that would probably love to be anywhere from there? This line of thought probably lines up with this dude >>4226392. Like if we could ask our uncle and anyone in the Blackwood family. Like spare some kids.

>B. Have some willing followers implanted
>D. Other(Write-in)
I'd like if this could be done with option B, but can we have the go ahead and contact a bio magos to help fine tune our warriors? You mentioned this somewhere in the past threads about contacting one. I forgot who and where, but it might be the Magos our uncle knows.

>>4226386
>>4226390
The experience and retiring warriors will do wonder in improving future warriors to come. Would it be a bad idea to propose having the leader of the Mountain people, that old guy, go through the process of becoming a geno-warrior?

>>4226433
I don't think making the leader of the mountain people a gene-lord would go down well with the current gene-lords.

However, we could have maybe 1 regiment or 1 company to come from the children of the mountain people, thus easing the process and keeping tabs on the growth of influence of the current gene-lords.

>>4226433
>>4226398
btw i think that only voluntary children should be used. Wouldnt want a bunch of angry gene-warriors after the process is finished.

>>4226470
Yeah

>>4226469
Yeah. He's only a crippled now, and there might be negative consequences. Still kind of bummed about the scrapped proposal for the prison system. I thought it was fairly decent.
If the Mountain people had willing children volunteers and everyone was ok with it, this might have potential in the long run to eventually break down the whole slave system. If given the opportunity it would be preferred if we could have the retired and loyal geno warriors under our retinue train them and be unbiased so they have no extreme preferences to the genolords themselves.

>>4226392
>>4226395
>>4226398
You decide to have some of your household guard put through the geno-enhancement process, as the infertility issue does not affect them, as they are already older men who had children or have no interest in children. Mercenaries retained by House Blackwood for their skill and loyalty, these men are mostly former members of elite Imperial Guard units, and the added speed, strength and vitality will make them even more deadly warriors than before.

In line with you idea to build a geno-army, you have proposed to open several orphanages around the planets you control to raise a generation of kids for geno-warriors and other roles in service of House Blackwood.

Back on the space station, it takes only two days to get the Varyagian psyker prisoners, sedated and loaded onto the freighter, heading off to whoever your Uncle sold the Xenos to.

Now flush with cash you are sitting on 180k in thrones, What should we do next?

A. Focus on improving Halon Primaris
B. Focus on improving the space station
C. Other(Write-in)

>>4226645
>B. Focus on improving the space station

>>4226645
>B

>>4226645
B

>>4226645
>B. Focus on improving the space station
>C. Other(Write-in)
Do we have the labor force to focus on another project in addition to the space station, or just one or the other?

Is anyone else worried about our solar system neighbor that got btfo by his own idiocy and body snatchers? I think we should head back and see if they're over ran with the xenos and if the space hulk is still near by.

Seriously I think they become a problem if they absorb enough mass to summon a small fleet or something.

>>4226660
>>4226673
Yeah we probs should scout

>>4226645
C. Send a ship to see how our neighbor is doing

Too bad i lost this turn for the geno-warriors.

>>4226660

The space hulk are unstable so it could be somewhere else, or it can still be there. Xenos are worrying, but we wouldn t be able to give a great help with what we have especially without a proper collaboration from the governor.

>>4226648
>>4226650
>>4226656
>>4226660
You decide to focus on the space station, at this point there are 2 main ways to improve the space station

The first would involve building hospitality suites and various amenities into the station including several bars, brothels, restaraunts and high-end rooms to stay in, for both wealthy noblemen coming through and the common sailor. This will bring in cash through these businesses and make us a hub for commerce and trade in the area, as there are not many local space stations to dock at, and your uncles actiivities draw many freighters and other ships and people into this region of space.

The second thing you could do is have the space station armed and armored for battle, with additional armor, void shielding and weapons installed, including several thermal lance batteries, macrocannons, and torpedo tubes to engage any ships that come near the planet.

Each upgrade would cost 50k, you have 180k on hand

A. Upgrade the hospitality suites
B. Upgrade the station defenses
C. Do both
D. Other(Write-in)

You also send the Fiery Hand to check on the Acheron system. Using its advanced sensor suite, it can sit on the edge of their system, outside of sensor range and listen on communications and signs of activity....

>>4226691
C do both

With a xeno threat it would be dump not to

>>4226683
Besides the potential hive fleet, I'm also hoping for the planet's governor to be dead so we can lay claim to his planet. If we some how manage to curb at least 99% of the body snatcher presence there (because it's almost impossible to get all of them unless we implement brutal laws and excessive medical examinations) we might be able to take iit for our own. The cost for repairs would set us back some hundreds of thousands worth of thrones, but it would be worth it to have a slightly more advanced planet as our own.

>>4226684
>Too bad i lost this turn for the geno-warriors.
ya wot m8? what do you mean? Did you want to vote on something else?

>>4226691
>D. Other(Write-in)
>C. Do both
But also include a shipwright section or extension on the station for the purpose of repairing ships. We still need to repair out own vessels after all. How much for all three would cost?

>>4226696
Yeah. Remember in the first thread about some up and coming violent xeno empire? I want to get armed up in case they're eyeing up our slice of the galaxy. There's also the Pig trades I don't entirely trust, the Tau if they ever bother trying to travel this far, body snatchers, literally everything.

>>4226691
Balls. I forgot. I get that Body Snatcher is the generalization for Tyranids with our limited knowledge of their race, but were the ones we encountered on the Space Hulk actually Tyranids or Genestealers? I think it was the former?

>>4226691
C. Do both

>>4226699
No i had something write for them.

>>4226724
what did you have written?

>>4226730
Mostly about their training, it will be posted when we have another turn for them. Preferably if we have plenty of thrones

>>4226691
>C

>>4226753
It helps that we can utilize the combat experience with the Body Snatchers, wisdom of the retiring geno warriors of Lord Rene Foulchier, our Veteran Boars, and the exhausting Imperial Guard PT training. As the the Emperor once said:
>They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines such that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear.
>--The Emperor of Mankind.

>>4226691
Ill pick this up again tomorrow

>>4226691
> C

>>4225919
Easiest choice is to let them live and die off and phase out the current slave population this way.

Alternative is to find reasons and conditions to either end or limit the time the slaves have left as slaves. Perhaps allow that child born to a slave parent is set free on their 20th year, and offer to buy the slaves off of the lords.

>>4226128
phase out or purchase.
We can explain that in order to reach greater status and enlightenment in the Imperium and become close to the god emperor, we must either uplift or reform the primitive system of slaves.

>>4226129
What if we gave them servitors instead or as replacements?

>>4226154
We would not need to deal with this factionalism and appeasement if we simply sided with the geno lords and eliminated the mountain clans.

>>4226691
>C. Do both

>>4226696
>>4226699
>>4226724
>>4226984
>>4226756
You opt to do both, busying your space station repair crew and several techpriests for the next few months, renovating hundreds of rooms for visitor stays, and creating nice common areas to serve as bars, brothels, restaraunts and other amenities on the station.

You also have the crews mount additional armor plating and install additional void shield generators on the station. Finally several armored casemates featuring thermal lance batteries, torpedo tubes and macrocannon batteries are installed as well, with their ammunition and generators stored in armored rooms deeper in the station.

This will take some time and brings your cash reserves down to 80k.

>>4226154
>>4227072
While there would be some benefits of just dealing with the Geno-Lords, it makes it more likely they would try to turn on us in the long-term, without another faction balancing them out on their homeworld. As their people slowly but surely take more positions on the space station and in the fleet, and have more exposure to advanced technology they will begin to question why they cant lead themselves, especially without external or internal threats to keep them loyal and without strong leadership from House Blackwood

>>4226129
>>4227072
Servitors are much more expensive that slaves, and the Geno-Lords might not understand how to "manage" servitors but other than that I don't see why not.

>>4227565
You are sitting in your ward room on the Bold Venture, reviewing some paperwork from the space station work, when the alarm goes off

"Multiple contacts detected, Captain to the bridge, sound general quarters"

You quickly buckle on your sword belt and holster, take one last bite out of the freeze dried apple you were eating and run to the bridge...

You take your seat on the command chair

"Status report?"

"4 contacts sir, look like Admech ships, coming back into Imperial Space"

The fleet appears to be 2 admech cruisers and 2 freighters, several featuring some battle scars and slightly erratic energy readings and trajectory patterns....

It doesn't take long before they hail you, a large red robed tech priest quickly filling the view screen on the bridge

The priests body makes strange noises as he moves his head and upper body to face the pict capture (Click Click Vrrrrrrrrr)

"Greetings Lord Governor, I am Magos Jance Lorraine"

"My fleet was exploring this region for natural resources of value to the forges of Falgor IV"

"We have detected large mineral deposits in this system and would be interested in the acquisition of some of your output"

You do some quick negotiations with the half-man half-machine but they go nowhere. His offer is firm

20% of our iron, copper, nickel and gold ore for 100,000 thrones/year

20% roughly represents our excess which we could have used for tithes or as an emergency reserve.

He also offers 40% for 200,000, and finally 500,000/year if we just give him all of our minerals.

A. Take the 20% deal
B. Take the 40% deal
C. Take the 100% deal
D. We are not interested in selling our minerals at this time
E. Other(Write-in)

>>4227584
>B. Take the 40% deal

>>4227584
>>4227597
Uh. Before we agree on a deal, does the % mean how much we mine, and we decide if we give them 20% / 40% /100% ofvwhat we dig up, or literally everything in the planet? As in 20% of all the ores in the planet?

>>4227621
% of what we dig up, but if we are ultimately going to dig up almost everything on the planet, it effectively means both. We could break/modify the agreement later, but it might hurt relations with the forge world, there is no penalty to saying no right now.

>>4227584
>D. We are not interested in selling our minerals at this time
We need some time to think about it, but will have you're answer soon.

>You do some quick negotiations with the half-man half-machine but they go nowhere. His offer is firm
Darn! We need to some how find a way to increase our negotiation skill.

On a more dubious topic, should we inform the admech of the space hulk we encountered a while ago? The Fiery Hand should be back soon. The other planet is only a few days away from our system.

>>4227630
Its not so much a lack of negotiation skill here, its that the Admech does not negotiate

>>4227643
Would he know anyone with any extensive knowledge of body snatchers and any exploitable weaknesses? Virus bombs? Flesh eating viruses? OOC or in WH40K fluff I think there were virus based weapons used specifically against Tyranids.

>>4227643
Mhm-hm. You'd have more luck arguing with a teleprompter.

>>4227584
>E.
Hold on just a minute there.

We could negotiate for valuable weapons blueprints to continue with our mercenary output program.

If we negotiate for a boltweapon blueprints and a boltweapon production facility we could start arming our 100,000 geno-warriors with something better than a lasgun and not as valuable as our ancient pre-heresy thousand sons gear.

My eventual aim is to turn Halon primaris into a trade hub similar to Elysia. Then we'll get the best weapon patterns for our military.

While it is ideal that we buy weapons from the forgeworld it is much better in the long run to start acquiring blueprints. Make those the best weapon patterns available and start to pacify the system.

We'll be looking for either Mars pattern or Ryza pattern or perhaps their forgeworld has its own pattern, but what quality is it?

>>4227584
E. Other(Write-in)

Offer a 30% deal
- for 125.000 thrones
- small groups of your specialized techpriests (we request ones for study and then improve the genes of our geno-warriors, some for guard implants, as well ones specialized in other military gear like weapons/armors/vehicles and so on)
- and a collaboration for help our military development.


Since this could still seems rather costly, we offer them a part of our space station to use and expand. Having a solid point for future explorations is without doubts useful.

>>4227650
We can ask if hes encountered similar creatures before, but our character would not know about virus weapons or anything that detailed

>>4227650
>>4227660
As far as you know Falgor IV is a jack-of-all-trades Forge World, with their specializiation if they were to have one being, building ships more quickly and cheaply than their rival Forge Worlds, as they are smaller and on the edge of Imperial Space. Because of this they have a larger than usual fleet and ground force and are highly active in sending out Explorator fleets beyond Imperial borders.

>>4227584
>20% roughly represents our excess which we could have used for tithes or as an emergency reserve.

We need to keep our excess for tithes.

>>4227664
>>4227584

Ill support this E

>>4227667
>>4227664
It looks like we'll be exporting geno-warriors for our tithes then if we go with this.

Which is fine i suppose... though im not sure how the imperium will react.

They could try to exterminate them. OR they could see them a bit like house Goliath, a high utility unit.

>>4227664
>>4227675
We will need better relations to request tech priests and have them support our research. Also the Admech in general does not like it when non-Admech groups have unique or advanced technology that they do not themselves possess, and are known to attempt to forcibly acquire it, or destroy it. So it may be better to find a Heretek tech-priest, or at least a more open-minded higher ranking one to work with specifically.

However your idea of offering them part of the space station as an outpost is sound, and would improve relations and bring in some sort of income, as you could charge them docking/rental fees for their outpost.

>>4227660
I'll support this, but I would prefer a one time payment for the blueprints. Bolt tier weapons would for at the forefront of what we need. Maybe power armor blueprints if that can be reasonable.

>>4227664
Maybe we should wait on our uncle for a bit so he can produce a trustworthy Bio Admech that'll keep our geno-warrior thing for a bit? We do have the gene seeds after all. They still need to be studied.

>>4227667
Can the gene seeds we have in storage be used in anyway to improve our geno warriors without directly implanting those in them? Maybe study them for any bit of insight? These were designed by the Emperor.

>>4227679
Then we still to shilling out standard guardsmen and only shill our Genowarriors through Blackwood mercenary contracts.

>>4227681
Except for the part where you mentioned this
>Admech in general does not like it when non-Admech groups have unique or advanced technology that they do not themselves possess, and are known to attempt to forcibly acquire it, or destroy it.
Now I want to keep them at a few lightyears away.

>>4227685
Dealing with Admech and most other Imperial Institutions is generally a double-edged sword. They like increased control and stringent adherence to their value system.

However strong relations can also bring benefits, such as gifts, alliances and their willingness to garrison your systems and send their fleets to protect you.

>>4227682
>Maybe we should wait on our uncle for a bit so he can produce a trustworthy Bio Admech that'll keep our geno-warrior thing for a bit? We do have the gene seeds after all. They still need to be studied.

+1

>>4227681
>attempt to forcibly acquire it, or destroy it.
In that case i vote to NOT give them part of the space station. Sooner or later they'll find out about our geno warriors.

>>4227685
+1

>>4227694
We'll be fine without their garrison or starfleet. We'll soon have both of our own.

>>4227679
i thought the star company already bring some knowledge of the geno warriors around. Still the houses themselves have some of their ancient history and old gear for prove that they are of the Imperium.

My idea would be to use the Mechanicum for further improve our geno-warriors. I dislike the idea of selling them, they are far above a normal guardsmen and improvements would make them even better.


>>4227681

Ok. What about instead help in military development like building defenses, some ships and a few military factories ?


>>4227682
Definetly, but we could get something else. Ah i am talking about the geno-warriors genes, not the spacemarines geneseed. Both of them aren t study.

>>4227584
>A. Take the 20% deal

>>4227711
As long as we sell them as merc's theres a pretty good chance the imperium wont catch wind of their geno-heritage.

>>4227681
How much would it be to just BUY a boltweapon factory and blueprints? We already have 180 thrones.

Also buying the factory and giving it to the mountain settlement would probably increase our relations to them and help to balance out the increasing influence of the geno-lords.

>>4227681
In that case im for no deal

>>4227664
>>4227673
Our uncle knows of some Admechs, one of which I think is a bio dude.

>>4227694
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Headscratchers/SpaceHulk
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Space_Hulk
https://amp.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/ahpvtt/restoration_of_chaos_vessels_to_imperial_service/
https://amp.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/adgtrs/can_a_hulked_ship_be_towed_through_the_warp/
Did some light reading. Is it possible to restore a hulled ship and tug it back to a shipyard to be repaired? If we find the space hulk again can we go with flames and Plasma weapons for both geno warriors and standard human veteran troops?
I still want to know if the geneseeds can provide insight through study, or if they're simply collecting metaphorical dust in the geneseed vault.
So we have any buyers for the non Psykers on Secundus?

>>4227711
star company? You mean the geno warriors we contracted out to our uncle? It's something worth asking I guess.

>My idea would be to use the Mechanicum for further improve our geno-warriors.
Maaaaaybe through one of our Uncle's contacts? We'd get the guarantee they wont try to take our stuff, and we could even build up a rapport. Imo that would be a better choice then outright going to the mechanicus for aid.

>Ok. What about instead help in military development like building defenses, some ships and a few military factories ?
Fromatrustedcontactfromouruncleperhaps?

>Definetly, but we could get something else. Ah i am talking about the geno-warriors genes, not the spacemarines geneseed. Both of them aren t study.
I refute this point with this quote
>Admech in general does not like it when non-Admech groups have unique or advanced technology that they do not themselves possess, and are known to attempt to forcibly acquire it, or destroy it.
That would be the geno warriors themselves. Things do not have to be explicity mechanical bits, like how vio magos are a thing in the mechanicus.

>>4227727
80k right now actually, but we'll get more in the anual tax audit whatever you call em. Give it time.

>>4227737

i was thinking of using someone else for create our contacts, but we might as well go for our uncle contact since it would be already friendly.


>>4227664
change my previous vote to
>>4227584
A. Take the 20% deal

>>4227667
Accidentally refreshed and lost my post.

Yes let's ask the tech priest for info on body snatcher.

If we find the space hulk again and do more delving could we point it our to the admech for a finders fee and maybe a discount of ships hes refurbished from the hulked ships?

Are there any asteroid belts in our system? Asteroids and meteors got sick ass space rocks in them.

Can we buy Hotshot Lasgun, bolter weapons, and power armor blueprints? If yes, how much for each?

>>4227763
Dude we're gonna have nothing to tithe except our troops.

Also why do you hate getting boltweapons?

So people want the "Take the 20% deal" which is good an all, but if we dont have the ore then how are we gonna arm the boyz we be shipping out to the imperial fleets?

>>4227643
Can we make ammunition for our 50 so Leman Russ tanks?

>>4227787
true enough. I don t think they could give boltweapons if we don t give some resources. They are here for those afterall


>>4227660
support this vote

instead of my last change here
>>4227763

>>4227814
No we cannot, at this time. We have enough to fight a small war right now, but to replenish our stocks we will have to either figure out a way to manufacture more, or purchase them from somewhere else

>>4227839
I suppose that just means we'll either need to purchase some from Magos Jance Lorraine, a contact if they can supply cheaper munitions, or steadily build up our economy until we reach modern Imperial technological levels. For now we have what we need, and wont be needing these unless we're defending our world or sieging another.

>>4227660
>>4227833
>>4227682
Majority is to reject the deal but to inquire about things we can buy from them

"Rejection? Intriguing, I calculated a 72.45% chance that you would accept my offer to purchase your ore"

"My ships have scanned your system's star and have found that it can be harvested for approximately 7,458.83 terran years before being made unstable."

"We are interested in setting up a hydrogen mining station around the star, in exchange we would pay a fee of 100,000 thrones/year for the mining rights."

A. Allow them to harvest hydrogen from our star
B. No, we do not wish to sell our system resources right now
C. Other(Write-in)

I will open the dialogue for purchases with options after this turn, so no need to put it as write-in

>>4227890
>A. Allow them to harvest hydrogen from our star
This is fine. At least it's not near our planet.

>>4227890
A. Allow them to harvest hydrogen from our star

>>4227890
A thought came to mind. Secundus is mostly wet, and I think it's mostly water? I need to check but if it is we could make it an export of fish, at least once they're at a sufficient technological level. Perhaps in a few decades.

>>4227890
Won't that result on the cooling of the star and planets around it? And Secundus is snowy already...

Open up a contract for 458.83 years, that'll net us 4,588,300,000 by that time we should have fully monetized Secundus with mining, harvesting and population to add to our wealth.

>>4227944
Supporting

>>4227890
>>4227944
Would that really cool the star and affect the temperature of the star and surrounding planets?

>>4227944
This, but let's bump it down to a century before we need to re establish the agreement in case it does affect the heat of the star.

>>4227944
Supporting. Perferably we can sparse it in contracts of 10 years

>>4227982
I agree

Renew contract every 10 years.

>>4227982
That works too. I'm all for the star mining contract. We just need to figure out a good duration for the contract. What does having to signed it every decade matter? It's no big deal.

>>4227890
>A. Allow them to harvest hydrogen from our star

>>4228021
>>4227982
>>4227987
>>4227949
>>4227944
>>4227917
>>4227907
You agree to allow the hydrogen harvesting, and to the deal, to be reviewed every decade.

During the deal you receive an astropathic message from the Fiery Hand, indicating that the hulk has dissapeared. While they have not gotten close as to not alert the Governor of the Acheron system, they have listened in on communications for several days and not picked up anything strange, except for a newly prominent vox station, praising the hard working people of Acheron and the cult of the Red Hand.....

Back to your dealings with the techpriest, you see what they would be willing to sell you.

You currently have 80k on hand, but the forge-lords of Falgor IV are willing to make loans for large purchases.

A. Ask about starships and space stations
B. Ask about manufacturing and industrial equipment
C. Ask about vehicles
D. Ask about infantry equipment
E. Ask about rare/special items
F. Other(Write-in)

>>4228051
>B. Ask about manufacturing and industrial equipment
>D. Ask about infantry equipment
Muh power armor, Hot Shot lasguns, and Bolt weapons

>>4228051
>B. Ask about manufacturing and industrial equipment
>C. Ask about vehicles
>D. Ask about infantry equipment

We need to industrialize quickly and enjoy that sweet, sweet industrialized era boom.

>>4228051

>F make a report to the inquisitors about a potential xeno infection in the Acheron system

>B

>>4228051
>B. Ask about manufacturing and industrial equipment
>E. Ask about rare/special items

>>4228051
>B. Ask about manufacturing and industrial equipment
>C. Ask about vehicles
>D. Ask about infantry equipment
Also send the communication we have just received to our uncle, this is quite bad. We might as well give it to the Mechanicus fleet present here, if they trade in that system as well they could risk an infection.

>>4228151
>We might as well give it to the Mechanicus fleet present here, if they trade in that system as well they could risk an infection.
What do you mean? it's not going to be impossible to purge the pants stealers.

>>4228051
>A. Ask about starships and space stations
>B. Ask about manufacturing and industrial equipment
>F make a report to the Sectorlord about a potential heretical cult of the Red Hand in the Acheron system

>>4228155
If they traded there without knowing it, they could have risked an infection.

>F make a report to the Sectorlord about a potential heretical cult of the Red Hand in the Acheron system

+1

The only reason im not suggesting we offer our patronage to the inquisition is because of our gene-warriors.

>>4228221
Then not a bad idea. We can try to surround their planet with two of our ships and dissuade anyone from entering. We'd also need to get clearance, forcefully disable their Planet to space weapons, or fly some soft of stealth craft down to disable them.

>>4228155
I think you heavily heavily underestimate them. I would think we are in deep shit even if we had a leigon of imperial guard which we dont.

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To stop the GM's brain from going into meltdown im gonna make a short list of things im interested in seeing.

- Boltweapon factory & blueprints
- Taurox transports for industry and guard and rocket artillery
- Goliath trucks for industry
- Hotshot volley gun and hotshot rifle
- Suppression laser (twin linked lasgun) pic related (sorry i just had to include something special)
- Power armour
- Any kind of refinery for crude oil into promethium
- Anything that would help with our railway and transport i guess
- Valkyrie dropships & gunships

Im hoping this makes it a little easier.

>>4228229
I wss suggesting inquisition as they would be sooner to recognize the threat and jusr exterminatus the whole thing. Its already too late if we ever want that planet safe every living thing on it needs to be purged.

>>4228284
I never said it was going to be easy, just that it's not impossible. I know how difficult it can be. The easy part is killing the majority of them, not all of them.

>>4228284
This. This man knows what he wants.

>>4228287
Jeez. That's a real bummer. If it really has to come to an exterminatus, then maybe we can contact the Magos and borrow his sensory array to determine if there are any irreplaceable machines, artifacts, and resources we can pull out of there. If it has to come to an Inquisitor executing an exterminatus. Fingers crossed it doesn't have to come to that.

>>4228287
>>4228293

I dont think a genestealer cult infection is enough to warrant an exterminatus straight away. This is the sort of thing the =I= has to deal with alot of the time. Its like fighting forrest fires for them.

All the more reason we should encourage an inquisition presence, if it werent for the fact that they might go hardcore puritan and try to exterminate our gene-warriors.

>>4228310
Right right. So weather do to an exterminatus or not isn't really within our control, but calling for their aid would help. That's something we should probably do soon. On a side note they'll probably enlist our help in as a conjoined effort to purge the body snatcher which is something I suspect. I only hope that by then end of this we'll get a fine profit.

>>4228323
Agreed.

Weather we call it in or not, they're bound to turn up sooner or later. Better be us who calls them to stay on their good side.

Either that or we try to deal with the planet ourselves, which i dont like the chances of.

>>4228310
>>4228293

What you done understand is a gene stealer cult never goes away just like orks nevee go away.

Once its on the planet its there for good unless every buit of organic matter is destroyed. It dosnt just gwt into people, it gets into plants and animals. You can kill off one hoard just for another to show up in a year but even more ingraned then before. Entier villages and town can be turned without you ever knowing untill its too late. Its fucked seriously fucked and that planet was doomed the molment the first chunk or spacecraft hit it.

>>4228368
Yes? So we agree we're going to call the exterminator- I mean Inquisitor, right?

>>4228380
Yeah that should be the plan

A. Ask about starships and space stations
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B. Ask about manufacturing and industrial equipment
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C. Ask about vehicles
PyIFJ4UP (specific request)
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D. Ask about infantry equipment
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PyIFJ4UP (specific request)
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E. Ask about rare/special items
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F. Other(Write-in)
s4NdDO+3 (call Inquisitor)
BlgWvtEx (inform Uncle)
3djqBdML (call Sectorlord)
PyIFJ4UP (call Sectorlord)
ANGW5Dsg (call Sectorlord/call Inquisitor/inform Uncle)

Did I get this right?

>>4228051
Sorry guys I had to step away I’ll pick up again in the morning

>>4228054
>>4228088
>>4228129
>>4228143
>>4228151
>>4228155
>>4228207
>>4228221
>>4228229
>>4228283
It seems just about everyone wants to look at industrial equipment so well do that.

You also already sent the Inquisition a message through your uncle of possible Xenos corruption in the Acheron system. Its unknown if they acted on the information.

(Also In-character, your character wouldn't necessarily know much about Gene-stealers or the threat they pose)

The Forge-Lords will not give you the most specialized and highest quality items yet, as they do not know you well. They are however willing to allow you to license production facilities from them in the Halon system, under strict supervision of their techpriests.

Each option costs 50k we have 80k on hand. However they will allow us to take out a loan

A. Light/medium military truck factory, capable of producing Taurox and Tauros chassis(need to still produce or buy their weapons)
B. Chimera chassis factory
C. Heavy weapon factory, including standard battle cannons, auto cannons, assault cannons and rotary guns
D. Shell ammunition factory, for producing standard shells for most heavy weapons and bolters
E. High powered engine factory for aircraft and heavy vehicles
F. Valkyrie and similar Chassis factory
G. Imperial mining equipment factory
H. Imperial farming equipment factory
I. Imperial fishing equipment factory
J. Bolt-weapon factory, for producing bolters and all their common variants

>>4229418
Forgot Goliath heavy truck chassis factory

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>>4229418
Considering we can only afford one shiny thing im going to say we go for boltweapons to proceed with our mercenary program as this will provide us with military stability AND a sellable service.
> J.

We also could spend, maybe 10k to equip them with ammunition bought from the forgeworld.

After we get our first paycheck from the mercenary program we could buy mining / farming equipment and maybe option A. for pic related.

>>4229418
>D. Shell ammunition factory, for producing standard shells for most heavy weapons and bolters
>J. Bolt-weapon factory, for producing bolters and all their common variants

>>4229418

shell ammunition factory.
heavy weapons factory

take a small loan of 30

were gonna need a lot of explosive lead to deal with the enemies of MAN

>>4229418
>>D. Shell ammunition factory, for producing standard shells for most heavy weapons and bolters
>>J. Bolt-weapon factory, for producing bolters and all their common variants
Take a small loan of 30k, we should be able to repay it easily

>>4229418
>>4229496
>Take a small loan of 30k,

Can we take the 30k out of our first payment for the hydrogen mining? As a sign of good faith?

>>4229418
> G. Imperial mining equipment factory
+
> G. Imperial mining equipment factory

>>4229573
yes

>>4229573
it can be done, i support your suggestion

>>4229496
>>4229475
>>4229573
>>4229467
>>4229463
You opt to take the equipment to set up a shell factory and a bolter factory with the shortfall being taken out of your first hydrogen mining payment.

It takes a few solar weeks for a small supply fleet from Falgor IV to arrive, bringing the promised equipment.

Techpriests and men from the Imperial settlement quickly go about setting up the new factories outside the city, creating an industrial zone northwest of the city, where many of the residents now work, or work in businesses supporting the new industry.

With the coffers dry, you focus on overseeing the renovation and upgrades on the space station and establishment of the new factories on Primaris.

You are also pleased to find out that the mining base has been established on the former Varyagian cave-city. Progress has been slow, as equipment had to be carried down from the Bold Venture, one shuttle-load at a time and moved into place by teams of workers, or pulled by trucks or shuttles from the air. Explosives and drilling equipment had to be used to create larger entrances in several places to allow trucks and mining equipment through. Taking up resident in both the cave-city and the hills around it, nearly 5,000 volunteer miners from the Mechanist guild have come to settle and work on Secundus.

>>4229642
With the Varyagians defeated and enslaved, and the arrival of technologically advanced forces, the Red Brotherhood has lost the purpose of its existence, along with many of the warriors of Halon Secundus, this has caused some former warriors to turn to banditry, preying on the roads and the villages they once protected. Several of the City Leaders have requested that you employ these warriors in some capacity, to prevent banditry and because the Merchant Lords of Secundus do not want to pay them anymore.

The terrain around our military outpost on Secundus is rough, but good for extreme conditioning training for troops. It is believed that there are enough unemployed warriors to field several regiments, and we have plenty of extra stocks of equipment to raise light infantry companies, armed with flak armor and lasguns.

There is already a reinforced company of Wild Boars mercenaries, elite droptrooper light infantry and a company of Geno-warriors present on the planet. More men and supplies could be sent to help train these warriors into the first official PDF regiments of Secundus.

A. Lets raise some new regiments
B. We cannot trust the primitives with modern weapons yet, maybe another time
C. Other(Write-in)

>>4229642
Can we ret-con and place the bolter and shell factory with the mechanists guild in the mountain areas. This should balance out the power struggle between the geno-lords and the mountain people aswell as putting a highly valuable resource in a hard to siege location.

OR we could just keep it for our imperial settlement.

Should we vote?

>>4229662
>B. We cannot trust the primitives with modern weapons yet, maybe another time

>>4229662
>A

>>4229662
A. Lets raise some new regiments

They will need to be followed and trained well though by some of the Pdf of Primaris, and additionaly to be disciplined by some commisars and converted by our priests.
Perhaps we could oversee some of their training in the free time that we have as governor.

>>4229662
>A. Lets raise some new regiments
>C. Other(Write-in)
>the Red Brotherhood has lost the purpose of its existence, along with many of the warriors of Halon Secundus, this has caused some former warriors to turn to banditry, preying on the roads and the villages they once protected.
Banditry is not appreciated within the Imperium. For shaaaaame. They shame their ancestors as humanities earliest protectors. We aught to mix in some humility into these men. Especially humility if option B is a potential risk.

>>4229674
I think, at this moment we should keep it in our settlement. Bolt weapons and munitions are a very powerful asset. Should our relationship with the Mountain people turn too sour (let's say from anon trying to sell slaves again. Jesus christ man.), then they're gonna be rebellion + have all the ammo and bolt weapons on the planet.

>>4229685
That's nice, but that still leaves the bandits to pillage about. You want to just leave them to do whatever they want?

>>4229705
>There is already a reinforced company of Wild Boars mercenaries, elite droptrooper light infantry and a company of Geno-warriors present on the planet.
Yes this exactly. None of that Geno lord bullshittery. They'll be made honest to God Emperor guardsman. They're a respectable lot.

>>4229642
>>4229662

>A we needed more geno warriors for mercs anyways

>>4229699
>>4229705
>>4229710
>>4229722
You opt to raise these medieval warriors into a proper modern military force. Forming 4 regiments initially for training purposes. With the exception of some of the southern outposts who have gone bandit, or are more integrated with the cities, the Red Brotherhood contributes a large number of volunteers, accordingly to the rolls almost 70% of their fighting members have opted to join their new Lords army. Also joining are several thousand warriors previously sworn to the Merchant Lords, serving as feudal warriors or city guards, who with the Varyagians gone and the possiblity of inter-city warfare eliminated,the Merchant Lords have effectively laid off their armies, keeping only small numbers of trusted guards as retinues for personal protection.

Your mercenaries, former Imperial Guard from elite regiments begin with dicipline and conditioning, training them to march in parade formation, sometimes for hours or days at a time, allowing a few short rests, forcing the men to run through the hills and train incessantly in marching formations for several months, before begining classroom instruction, emphasising Imperial Guard tactics and doctrine, punctuated with more conditioning. Finally, after being molded into proper soldiers they are given their lasguns, where they learn to field-strip and put them back together hundreds of times, finally ending with marksmanship training and tactical exercises, fighting mock battles against each other.

During training the best recruits were given the roles of company and platoon leaders, with several Red Brotherhood warriors standing out as excellent combat troops and leaders.

A modified training regime is set up for former officers and leaders, emphasising the tactics and strategy aspect more, but also entailing elements of the dicipline and conditioning that the regular soldiers go through.

>>4229866
>Your mercenaries, former Imperial Guard from elite regiments begin with dicipline and conditioning, training them to march in parade formation, sometimes for hours or days at a time, allowing a few short rests, forcing the men to run through the hills and train incessantly in marching formations for several months, before begining classroom instruction, emphasising Imperial Guard tactics and doctrine, punctuated with more conditioning. Finally, after being molded into proper soldiers they are given their lasguns, where they learn to field-strip and put them back together hundreds of times, finally ending with marksmanship training and tactical exercises, fighting mock battles against each other.

and where is the conditioning of complete obedience to the imperium and absolute faith to the Emperor of Man as their only salvation hmmmmmm? Are you trying to raise a company of heretics?

>>4229866
Oh that's awesome

>With the exception of some of the southern outposts who have gone bandit
This not so much. Can we do anything about these guys? Maybe Round them up and get them straightened out?

>>4229883
They usually come from a Commissar or Imperial Cult Priest right?

>>4229866
The Red Brotherhood troops in general stand out in training, their Espirit De Corps, binding new and old comrade alike together during some of the more brutal aspects of the training.

The old Wild Boars mercenaries have reported that they may be some of the best soldiers you have now, as few of the troops from Primaris were true veterans, while on Secundus there was constant war. The men of Secundus, particularly the Red Brotherhood are excellent hand-to-hand fighters with even some of their human soldiers able to beat Geno-warriors through experience and superior skill. They also have a strong grasp of tactics and fieldcraft, with many of their warriors skilled in ambushes and living off the land for long periods of time in harsh conditions.

First among them, is Tage Serran, a former Captain of the Red Brotherhood, and renowned swordmaster, who has succesfully won every duel he has fought since arriving at the military outpost, beating several of your old mercenaries and Geno-Warriors.

After witnessing several of his victories in the simple dirt arena that has been set up in the outpost, you are inspired to hold a tournament, to shine a light on martial skills in your realm, but to also select a champion, a mostly ceremonial position, the champion will be a part of your personal guard, and equipped with the finest weapons and armor money can buy. You can also use the tournament to find some of the best fighters in the land to join your guard detail, which is currently made up of and led by loyal mercenaries to House Blackwood, former stormtroopers and elite guardsmen. They will remain part of your guard as well. If your guard unit gets big enough to form a regiment, it can be deployed to battlezones, and also be spread out to defend different homes and key government locations

>>4229889
Our men of Secundus really aught to btfo our guys in Primus. Especially if a human beats an elite genolord. Those guys seriously need an ample dose of humility.

>>4229883
>>4229866
>>4229887
Yes indoctrination is part of the classroom instruction, however we have not really converted them to the Imperial creed yet, mainly cowed them through superior technology. During training they did learn a very short version of the Imperial history, and that the Greatest Warrior King of all men claimed the galaxy for mankind and died to ascend to godhood. There was a healthy dose of proganda about loyalty to House Blackwood too, but mostly it was about how to be a deadly modern warrior and the bonds between battle-brothers

>>4229889
Forgot the question part of this

Shall we hold a tournament to find the Governor's champion?

A. Lets do it
B. Lets do something else(Write-in)

>>4229905
>A. Lets do it
>B. Lets do something else(Write-in)
Will regular humans be included?

>>4229905
A. Lets do it

>>4229895
As I have said previously, although the Geno-Lords are enhanced, they are not necessarily true warriors, as most of them have gone soft, living off of slave labor on their grand estates, rather than fighting a deadly battle against a roughly equal foe. Generally their experience is hunting or crushing some half starved, unarmed slaves.

>>4229908
Yes. some of the non-enhanced former Brotherhood rangers will likely do quite well on account of their skill, experience and training under the greatest swordsman their world has seen in 500 years

>>4229918
I'm really hoping our champion will be a human

>>4229905
>A. Lets do it
>B. Lets do something else(Write-in)

as they will be personal guard, scout out any folks that may be unfit to hold weapons so close to his lord. say, possible heretics, serial-killers, drug addicts, sexual deviants and the like. despite their flaws, they may still be extremely capable warriors.

if reaching higher stages of the duels, these unfit specimens should be hampered by micro injections of toxins and the like, so they will likely lose their duels.

>>4229924
>possible heretics
would be killed outright

>serial-killers
wouldn't last long as they'd either be a warrior or some piss-ant peasant that thought he was hot shit.

>drug addicts
would be disqualified if they were using drugs during the contest

>sexual deviants
Would actually be fine but btfo-ed and indoctrinated to not do anything heretical

Why not just let the games take it's course?

>>4229938
sexual deviants invite the ire of slaanesh. it is of the utmost importance that the Lord is surrounded by stable, reliable folk, without any risk for his rule or health. were dealing with a semi-barbaric unindoctrinated world here. some vetting, and perhaps some manipulation, may be in order.

>>4229924
Primaris was a world with relativly modern but not too advance tech and still with heritage to the imperium.
And Secundus is a feudal world.
They don t seem deviants or with too many criminals

>>4229960
sexual deviancy in of itself doesn't directly result in slaanesh popping out of the woodwork. slaanesh is the god of, I think sensation? whatever the results might be we should squander potential just because they like getting their dick wet. We'll deal with them afterwards, but that's only a very slim outcome. Hence we drop the care for sexual deviants for now and focus on something that's actually more important.

>>4229905
>A. Lets do it

Instead of retaining them as personal guard why not promote them to an actual emperors champion like the black templars. Then they just wade into battle and promote morale.

The winner shall be given their chosen weapon in power-weapon form!

k?

>>4230057
That would probably require even additional training, more religious zealotry, and modifications.

>>4229905
>A. Lets do it

>>4230057
>>4230064
We can call them whatever we like and equip them as best we can, but some podunk governor calling highest best warrior the emperors champion won’t hold the kind of weight that the black Templar’s have. Also wading into battle and improving morale is kind of the champions role, including dueling enemy champions and commanders from foes that accept duels

>>4230085
Lets leave the champion title dubbing for later. Perhaps leaving it to a charismatic elite veteran fighter or something.

>>4229905
>A. Lets do it

>>4229908
>>4229917
>>4229924
>>4230057
>>4230082
The call goes out to all warriors across the realm to try out for the tournament, with small regional tournaments being held to weed out the pretenders and the weak, it takes the better part of 6 weeks to narrow down to 32 contenders. With several Geno-Lord noble houses having warriors in the final tournament, along with nearly a dozen Red Brotherhood members, a few men from the mountain realms and a few men from the Imperials, including a few of your mercenary retinue and armsmen from the fleet.

What venue should be used for the tournament?

A. In an arena outside the Imperial Settlement on Primaris
B. In the cold harsh hills outside the outpost on Secundus
C. In the Western Mountains of Primaris
D. In the the Deserts of Primaris
E. In a massive empty storage bay on the space station
F. Other(Write-in)

>>4230143
>A. In an arena outside the Imperial Settlement on Primaris

>>4230143
D. In the the Deserts of Primaris

>>4230143
>B. In the cold harsh hills outside the outpost on Secundus
A true warriors proving grounds

>>4230143
>A. In an arena outside the Imperial Settlement on Primaris

>>4230143
E. In a massive empty storage bay on the space station

>>4230143
I’ll pick this up tommorow

>>4230143

A

also, is it to the death? mortal combat

>>4230143
>A. In an arena outside the Imperial Settlement on Primaris

This should show the populace our mighty leadership with warriors transported from another world.

Afterwards im thinking that the Red Brotherhood become the training corps for our new gene-warriors. This seems to be what their best suited to either that or make them our personal honour guard regiment to keep the gene-lords in line. Maybe we could do both these things?

>>4229710
>>4229642

Ive just had a great idea!

Why dont we entrust boltshell manufacturing to the planets priesthood.

Imagine it, within a temple monastery, priests busy rolling and anointing boltshells in its cold cavernous walls. Each one a work of art. Thus we get holy ammunition (well atleast it isnt just normal boltshells). We ensure the priests are loyal to the god emprah and thus wont pass the ammo to anyone but us. This is suitably gothic.

>>4231820
>priesthood.

What do you even mean. The Ecclesiarchy?

You do realize that admechs are priesthood too and they will go on the fucking warpath somebody touch their toaster