“A Knight is Sworn to Valour. His Heart Knows Only Virtue. His Blade Defends the Helpless. His Might Upholds the Weak. His Word Speaks Only Truth. His Wrath Undoes the Wicked.”Every child in Cantôn knows of the Knight’s Code. From peasant-born waifs playing with sticks in the mud to keen-eyed noble sons practicing with cold steel in the training yard, all have at the very least dreamed of one day becoming a knight themselves. To ride out on errantry into the Five Duchies Kingdom and beyond for God and Glory, bringing the Law of Adam to the wicked and the Blade of Cain to the beast.The Knights of Cantôn are sworn to follow the Code, to obey the King, to refuse no call for aid honestly asked for, to seek out and destroy the Foe wherever it may lurk and rid the world of evil.Were it so easy…------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Twitter: https://twitter.com/BlackCompany666/qst/ Archive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Sworn%20to%20ValourOur Knight & Companions Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/iBg32ZQwGeneral Plots & Intrigue: https://pastebin.com/HW6tG7TWSecret War Specific Intrigue: https://pastebin.com/55pd59kuDramatis Personnae: https://pastebin.com/mydcz8pAFaith & Politics Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Cu4FPGVMFoes, Foreigners & Monsters Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/nXwzHGGa
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Many leagues to the East, in the Slithering Wastelands https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yIELWjG8Tc – Freetown ThemeTracker Jean watched the flapping sheet on the clothesline with furrowed brows. This was the third abandoned settlement they’d passed since leaving Freetown, not a human or reptile soul in sight. No evidence of violence or foul play either, but folks that were set on leaving on their own timetable didn’t tend to leave their laundry out…Tracker Pa, ‘Old Man Snow’ hisself, had given Jean half-a-dozen extra caravan hands, Tracker greenfoots all. Young, inexperienced and useless as spare spit, Jean was told she was to break ‘em in to the merchant side of family business. But Jean suspected Pa just wanted them away from the usual territory out east of Freetown. That meant things were bad. Real bad.Still, they’d done well so far even with the detour to avoid some of the heftiest toll fees Tracker Jean had seen in all her caravanserai days. Near two-dozen purebred Wasteland Mustangs, beautiful and proud specimens that would have been too much to handle for her hired hands if not for the extra Tracker boys tagging along. Even with a second slap of toll fees that was going to make back her expenses, cover all her creditor shares and leave her damn rich besides. If she could just get them back over the mountains…”Boss.” Berric, her second, rode in with a little more hurry than she’d like to see. Something was up. ”People. Coming this way. Some saying they want to join up.””More refugees. From here?” Tracker Jean gestured at the deserted hamlet.”Don’t think so. Freetown, I think. Or from that way.” Berric paused, hesitating. He sucked his teeth, a habit of his that arose whenever he was worrying too much. Or worrying just enough. “There’s a lot of ‘em, boss.”[1/2]
[2/2]”Shit, that’s where half these folk were fleeing to. What the in Pit happened?” Jean swore, wondering when she started using the Cantôn turn of phrase. “Freetown still there?””They ain’t said nothing about Freetown falling or the like.” Her second grunted, pulling his mount astride hers. His dull brown eyes had settled on the gathering stormclouds in the distance. ”Ain’t what’s already happened that’s gottem runnin’ scared, I reckon.”Tracker Jean nodded, looking back north and east to the distant horizon. Her second was right, Pit take it. It wasn’t what had come that had them all looking over their backs, it was what was coming.==============================================>“This is a merchant caravan, not a rescue mission.” If they can’t pay their own way, they can’t stay. Sucks to be them, but you have your creditors to think of. [Haughty]>“Dust n’ Damnation… Alright, put the able-bodied on the payroll and get them to work. As for the rest… let’s get them something to eat.” Besides, there is safety in numbers. [Hearty]>“More mouths to feed? A bigger target for the Scaled Horde? No thank you.” With any luck, your convoy will escape unscathed as the round up easier targets. [Cynic]
>>4104177>>“Dust n’ Damnation… Alright, put the able-bodied on the payroll and get them to work. As for the rest… let’s get them something to eat.” Besides, there is safety in numbers. [Hearty]
>>4104177>>“More mouths to feed? A bigger target for the Scaled Horde? No thank you.” With any luck, your convoy will escape unscathed as the round up easier targets. [Cynic]
>>4104177>>“Dust n’ Damnation… Alright, put the able-bodied on the payroll and get them to work. As for the rest… let’s get them something to eat.” Besides, there is safety in numbers. [Hearty]I think with the frontiers, the frontier men and women will try to look for each other as much as possible. It's not all about the money for Jean after all.
>>4104199I dunno, I feel like there might be a case of "if you can't contribute you can't survive"
>>4104177>>“This is a merchant caravan, not a rescue mission.” If they can’t pay their own way, they can’t stay. Sucks to be them, but you have your creditors to think of. [Haughty]Wastelands be a hard place getting harder.
>>4104177>“Dust n’ Damnation… Alright, put the able-bodied on the payroll and get them to work. As for the rest… let’s get them something to eat.” Besides, there is safety in numbers. [Hearty]
>>4104177>“More mouths to feed? A bigger target for the Scaled Horde? No thank you.” With any luck, your convoy will escape unscathed as the round up easier targets. [Cynic]
>>4104177>They pay their own way or they can work it instead.[Haughty]+[Hearty]We aren't running a charity but we aren't heartless either.
>>4104177>“Dust n’ Damnation… Alright, put the able-bodied on the payroll and get them to work. As for the rest… let’s get them something to eat.” Besides, there is safety in numbers. [Hearty]>They pay their own way or they can work it instead.[Haughty]+[Hearty]As long as they contribute in some way I don't see an issue with itWhat's up Forgotten? What happened to that meeting Tracker Jean was supposed to have with Duke Montbrun?
>>4104177>“Dust n’ Damnation… Alright, put the able-bodied on the payroll and get them to work. As for the rest… let’s get them something to eat.” Besides, there is safety in numbers. [Hearty]>>4104315I don't think she was actually meeting the Duke. Just going by his Castle to sell wares. Surely servants would do the shopping and not the Duke himself
>>4104177>“Dust n’ Damnation… Alright, put the able-bodied on the payroll and get them to work. As for the rest… let’s get them something to eat.” Besides, there is safety in numbers. [Hearty]Ahh I love the sight of a new Sworn to Valour thread in the morning. Good day kniggas. I wonder what happened to that bard storyteller. I'm beginning to miss him.
>>4104315I doubt that the Duke of Montbrun himself met Tracker Jean and her caravan. He is probably occupied with far more important matters.
>>4104177>>“This is a merchant caravan, not a rescue mission.” If they can’t pay their own way, they can’t stay. Sucks to be them, but you have your creditors to think of. [Haughty]
>>4104320>>4104324That makes sense. Thanks for clarifying it.Is her name Jean or Jeanne by the way? Jean is a masculine male name.
>>4104327I think it's Jean but not sure
>>4104320>>4104324Still, I would like some details of how it went down.>>4104327It's Tracker Jean.
>>4104177>“Dust n’ Damnation… Alright, put the able-bodied on the payroll and get them to work. As for the rest… let’s get them something to eat.” Besides, there is safety in numbers. [Hearty]I'm going with this after some thinking but adding a write-in to it.>Inquire on what's going on. What is causing all of this? What happened in Freetown and what it's current state. Any information they have would be useful. [Hearty write-in addition]
>>4104346Supportan this.
>>4104346Prime serpent almost certainly
>>4104315Supporting this We’re not running a charity after all
>>4104177>They pay their own way or they can work it instead.[Haughty]+[Cynic]Taking the wealthy or the useful. Refugees might also be more of a threat if they decide to rob us, taking on a couple as guards kight prevent that.Maybe grab some strong dudes with kids to look after, they'll put in extra effort for their family while not being likely to rob and run.Plus we'll look good doing it "because they have kids".
>>4104177>“Dust n’ Damnation… Alright, put the able-bodied on the payroll and get them to work. As for the rest… let’s get them something to eat.” Besides, there is safety in numbers. [HeartyWell looks like something is hitting the fan.
>>4104177>“Dust n’ Damnation… Alright, put the able-bodied on the payroll and get them to work. As for the rest… let’s get them something to eat.” Besides, there is safety in numbers. [Hearty]I don't anticipate that this will cause anything but trouble when we inevitably cross paths with the Prime Serpent's warbands that are causing trouble up here, but we might as well be no different than the Snakemen if we just leave these people on their own out here because we're too concerned with the bottom line.
>>4104177>They pay their own way or they can work it instead.[Haughty]+[Hearty]No freeloaders.
>>4104176>“Dust n’ Damnation… Alright, put the able-bodied on the payroll and get them to work. As for the rest… let’s get them something to eat.” Besides, there is safety in numbers. [Hearty]
> All these hearty repliesWe ain't playing Emile, folks.
>>4105181Hearty for life
>>4105181Forgotten wouldn't be letting us pick the option if there was one "correct" answer to this. We get to influence Jean's character and choose which personality trait of hers we want to see come out. If this wasn't in character, then Forgotten wouldn't let us choose it as an option.
>>4105181>Hearty>EmileLike anons aren't on the idealist autopick
>>4104177>“More mouths to feed? A bigger target for the Scaled Horde? No thank you.” With any luck, your convoy will escape unscathed as the round up easier targets. [Cynic]Well, she is a trader not a Knight.
>>4105181>expecting Kniggas to pick anything other than Hearty+IdealismLMAO Kniggas are going to try and drop Haughty as soon as possible
>“Dust n’ Damnation… Alright, put the able-bodied on the payroll and get them to work. As for the rest… let’s get them something to eat.” Besides, there is safety in numbers. [Hearty]Tracker Jean lets compassion rule over her calculated mercantile wisdom. The results of this vote, and the risk it subjects the caravan to, remain to be seen…===================================================Previous Sir Emile Andrei VoteConfessor>You choose Father Towbray, as is appropriate under Romani doctrine. His is the hard and narrow path. He will not spare the rod, nor spoil the sinful child. He will remind you of who you are. Of -what- you are. A Knight. A Warrior of God. [Haughty] + [Idealist]Confessions>”I have spoken falsehoods and deceived my fellow man.” Your lie to the faction thugs beneath the ruins may have avoided bloodshed and saved lives, but it was still a lie. [Hearty]>”I have harboured doubts. In my Faith, in the wisdom of the church. Even… even in the truth of the Holy Message.” You have tried not to dwell on what you witnessed in the darkness. Tried. [Idealist]Sir Emile Andrei confesses to the sin of doubt and speaking falsehoods.Did Not Confess>”I have consorted with beastfolk, Fae and men of low character.” An alliance born of compromise. They may not be evil incarnate, but they are of the Foe. You had begun to forget that. [Haughty]While Sir Emile Andrei certainly does not trust their ilk, he does not consider his affiliation with the beastfolk, Fae and Bluejays to be a sin in and of itself.> Unrepentant. Gain +1 Step on the Path of Thorns [3]. > ‘To the Victor, the Spoils’ UNLOCKED: Always gain +1 Wealth at the successful conclusion of any engagement at a Skirmish level or larger, assuming there is time for your hirelings to pick over the remains.[1/4]
>>4105560> ‘To the Victor, the Spoils’ UNLOCKED: Always gain +1 Wealth at the successful conclusion of any engagement at a Skirmish level or larger, assuming there is time for your hirelings to pick over the remainsH E L L O.How big is skirmish level again?
>>4105561Anything that requires a battle roll result, essentially.
>>4105560> Unrepentant. Gain +1 Step on the Path of Thorns [3].> ‘To the Victor, the Spoils’ UNLOCKED: Always gain +1 Wealth at the successful conclusion of any engagement at a Skirmish level or larger, assuming there is time for your hirelings to pick over the remains.Hahaha nice
Sandag, 9th Day of Novrimun, 883 A.C.E. Motte-Fallavon Chapel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dcbjanbXRU – Penitent Knight themeThe penitent lay prostrate before the Chapel altar depicting Salve Reginae and the Apprehension, the scene of Cain struggling free from the Cross as the guards took his Mother away. She had known that coming to offer succour and tend his wounds would lead to her recapture and harsher punishment, but she could not bear to watch her tormented son suffer in silence. Like the Brother Cain, the penitent was stripped naked to the waist and face downcast. His bare arms, knees and forehead were sore from being pressed against the cold tile floor.As was his right as a man of noble blood, the penitent had requested the chapel hall be cleared for his confession. Indeed the chapel existed for exactly such a purpose, most sermons and services were held in the main church further downhill. What sins had been divulged in these halls by both meek and mighty, what petty failings and wicked atrocities had been attested to on these very stone tiles? Father Towbray stood at the side of the altar, dressed in the simple red wool cloak of his sect. He looked up at the depiction of Salve Reginae and the Apprehension, dwelling on the penitent’s confession. He tried to find it in his heart to show the exemplary forgiveness demonstrated by the Mother of the Faith. He tried to remind himself to be no more harsh than necessary, as a loving mother would discipline a wayward child. He must not let his anger at the multitude of human failings, many and endless, cloud the lessons to be learned here. Mercy was not a weakness, of course it was not. But mercy and laxity in vigilance were two different things.“We are all of us, creatures of doubt. We are all of us, creatures of sin. The church is not the Almighty anymore than a sapling is the forest, the church is merely an institution of fallible men that strives to interpret His Will. To hold those fallible men accountable to their failings, to decry those of the cloth that would warp the Word for their own ends… This is strength of character, not sin. Likewise, to doubt the forte of one’s own faith is a strength, not weakness.” The priest’s voice takes a harsh turn, his fists clench as he turns his back on the penitent. ”But to let that doubt be dwelt upon, to risk twisting your piety into cynicism and unbelief. To question not just the messenger, but the Message… That is a disease of the soul that takes root like a weed. And like a weed it must be torn out, root and stem!”The Montbrun priest breathed in and out deeply. They would get to that later.[2/4]
>>4105560>> Unrepentant. Gain +1 Step on the Path of Thorns [3]. >> ‘To the Victor, the Spoils’ UNLOCKED: Always gain +1 Wealth at the successful conclusion of any engagement at a Skirmish level or larger, assuming there is time for your hirelings to pick over the remains.hello helloThis is WELL welcome.
“These falsehoods, these lies. Why did you speak them?”“Your Reverence, it… avoided bloodshed.” The peninent’s left arm muscle trembles on its own volition, a sign of the strain this awkward posture was putting on them. “It was convenient then.” The word ‘convenient’ seems to leave a foul taste in the holy man’s mouth. ”Do the oaths of your office say ‘Speak Truth Only When Convenient’? Does it say ‘Speak Only Truth, Unless Necessity Demands Otherwise?’ ”The penitent does not move, their shamed silence is answer enough.Father Towbray continues. ”Was the avoidance of bloodshed worth the compromise of your Code? Was it worth knowing that you had tainted yourself with a liar’s tongue?””…It was not, Your Reverence.””Are you not a Knight of Cantôn?!” The priest’s sudden roar booms throughout the chapel hall. He whirls on the penitent, spittle flying with righteous rage. ”Are you not a Warrior of God, a Castellan whose conduct guards his own soul as surely as his blade guards the realm?!””I am!””Liar! Faithless wretch! Where the strength of weaker men falters You stand strong! Where the courage of lesser men fails, You hold fast!! Where those less worthy choose the easy path, the path of convenience…” The priest spits the word. ”The path of a fallen world, You stand proof against corruption! I ask you again worm, cretin, fallen thing! I ask you again, are you not a Knight of Cantôn?!”The penitent shakes as the priest grabs a tuft of his hair, demanding an answer. “I am! I swear to the Almighty, Salve Reginae and the Brothers that I am!”[3/4]
[4/4]“Do you denounce these sins and failings, and shed your past fallen life to carry the word of the Almighty forward once more?” The priest holds the holy oil like a man holds a club with a snake underheel, ready crush the taint of the soul without remorse or hesitation.Were any other man to touch him so, to lay his hands upon his bare head so roughly and uninvited, the penitent knight would have cut him down without hesitation. Instead he cries out, as if in pain. ”I do! By the Kingdom of the One True God and all his Angels in Heaven, I do!””Rise and rejoice, brother. Washed clean, born anew. The path to redemption is long and arduous, but the road is always open. If one has the courage to follow it.” Father Towbray finishes anointing the young penitent knight with oil, embracing him a fellow Brother of the Faith as they rise. The knight must undergo penance to wash away their past sins, to show the world that he has shorn himself of the failings of his former sinful self.------------------------------------------------------------(1) Penance for the Sin of Falsehood. Select One.>”Chapter II, verse XII. Utter no word but the truth. And, if the truth should elude thee, utter no word.” Sir Andrei is may utter no word until he kisses the feet of the Holy Figurehead in Port Bounty. [Sworn to Silence]>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury]-(2) Penance for the Sin of Doubt. Select One.>”Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.” Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered health status until he arrives at Port Bounty. [Flagellation]>”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith] -(3) The Visions. Select One.>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]>Father Towbray is your Confessor, your spiritual guide and confidant. If there is anyone that can be entrusted to share these revelations with and what they mean, it is he. [Hearty] + [Idealist]
>>41055761)>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury]2)>”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith] 3)>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist] That leap of faith is fucking badass
>>4105576>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury]>”Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.” Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered health status until he arrives at Port Bounty. [Flagellation]>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]
>>4105576>”Chapter II, verse XII. Utter no word but the truth. And, if the truth should elude thee, utter no word.” Sir Andrei is may utter no word until he kisses the feet of the Holy Figurehead in Port Bounty. [Sworn to Silence]>”Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.” Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered health status until he arrives at Port Bounty. [Flagellation]>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]
>>4105576>(1) Penance for the Sin of Falsehood. Select One.>>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury]>->(2) Penance for the Sin of Doubt. Select One.>>”Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.” Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered health status until he arrives at Port Bounty. [Flagellation]>->(3) The Visions. Select One.>>Father Towbray is your Confessor, your spiritual guide and confidant. If there is anyone that can be entrusted to share these revelations with and what they mean, it is he. [Hearty] + [Idealist]----->At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith] Out of curiosity, how would this be rolled? We roll to try to get hit then roll to survive? I don't think armour saves would apply to this, no?
>>4105576>”Chapter II, verse XII. Utter no word but the truth. And, if the truth should elude thee, utter no word.” Sir Andrei is may utter no word until he kisses the feet of the Holy Figurehead in Port Bounty. [Sworn to Silence]>”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith]>Father Towbray is your Confessor, your spiritual guide and confidant. If there is anyone that can be entrusted to share these revelations with and what they mean, it is he. [Hearty] + [Idealist]So Father Towbray know that the Church sometimes serves it's faithless own ends and must be held accountable. Makes me think highly of them
>>4105576(1)>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury](2)>”Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.” Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered health status until he arrives at Port Bounty. [Flagellation](3)>Father Towbray is your Confessor, your spiritual guide and confidant. If there is anyone that can be entrusted to share these revelations with and what they mean, it is he. [Hearty] + [Idealist]
>>41055761>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury]2>”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith]3>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]
>>4105582Cainites are more fundamentalist with church doctrine, they are more willing to purge the corruption out of the clergy, whereas adamites are more likely to forgive it.
>>4105582>themhim*Sorry meant him Father Towbray.
>>4105576>”Chapter II, verse XII. Utter no word but the truth. And, if the truth should elude thee, utter no word.” Sir Andrei is may utter no word until he kisses the feet of the Holy Figurehead in Port Bounty. [Sworn to Silence]Thematic punishments are pleasing.>”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith] I don't have a good reason for picking this.>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]
people feeling particularly suicidal today, willingly leaping into lightning bolts and all; I'm going to have the copper clipper stat sheet on standby.
On second thought...
>>4105586Changing my penance of sin vote here to>”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith]
>>41055761>Penury2>Flagellation 2>Hearty + Idealist>>4105585>whereas adamites are more likely to forgive it.Clearly not the case as that would violate the Law of Adam. They might go for a lighter less harsher punishement and for merciful repentance, but they won't let the crime or criminal go till they are trialed and convicted. The Adam order Emile chose is all about investigating wrongdoings and bringing the criminals to justice of Adam's law.
>>4105576>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury]>”Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.” Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered health status until he arrives at Port Bounty. [Flagellation]>Father Towbray is your Confessor, your spiritual guide and confidant. If there is anyone that can be entrusted to share these revelations with and what they mean, it is he. [Hearty] + [Idealist]
>>4105606>>4105609Changing
>>4105576(1) >”Chapter II, verse XII. Utter no word but the truth. And, if the truth should elude thee, utter no word.” Sir Andrei is may utter no word until he kisses the feet of the Holy Figurehead in Port Bounty. [Sworn to Silence]This seems like the more challenging choice, but it fits the bill much better as redemption for this sin.(2) >”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith]I.... I honestly cannot stress enough how fucking badass this is going to be. I don't give a fuck if it kills Emile and ends the quest, the write-up for it is going to be so insanely good that it'll be worth it.(3) >Father Towbray is your Confessor, your spiritual guide and confidant. If there is anyone that can be entrusted to share these revelations with and what they mean, it is he. [Hearty] + [Idealist]If we're going to tell someone about them, this seems like as good a time as any. The only other options would be to wait until we meet someone further up the religious chain of hierarchy, or to just never tell anyone, and neither of those seem as good as this.
>>4105576>>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury]>”Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.” Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered health status until he arrives at Port Bounty. [Flagellation]>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]
>>4105576(1) Penance for the Sin of Falsehood.>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury](2) Penance for the Sin of Doubt. >”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith](3) The Visions>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]
>>4105576>”Chapter II, verse XII. Utter no word but the truth. And, if the truth should elude thee, utter no word.” Sir Andrei is may utter no word until he kisses the feet of the Holy Figurehead in Port Bounty. [Sworn to Silence]>”Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.” Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered health status until he arrives at Port Bounty. [Flagellation]>Father Towbray is your Confessor, your spiritual guide and confidant. If there is anyone that can be entrusted to share these revelations with and what they mean, it is he. [Hearty] + [Idealist]
>>4105576(1) Penance for the Sin of Falsehood. Select One.>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury](2) Penance for the Sin of Doubt. Select OneI'm totally with the let's go motherfucker option but still I don't want to a character to die on pascae just to other be born there>”Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.” Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered health status until he arrives at Port Bounty. [Flagellation](3) The Visions. Select One.>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]you telling jack shit brother I'm pretty sure they kill people for this
>>4105581A single roll. Doubles you get struck by lightning. A natural 100 will see you dead.An interesting way to end the quest arc, that's for sure.
Rolled 34 (1d100)>>4105694Just gonna get this bad roll out of the way
>>4105576>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury]>”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith]>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]Cain in a cross, penance is harsh and Father Towbray doesn't fuck around with it. Better not break a vow again.
>>4105576>>”Chapter II, verse XII. Utter no word but the truth. And, if the truth should elude thee, utter no word.” Sir Andrei is may utter no word until he kisses the feet of the Holy Figurehead in Port Bounty. [Sworn to Silence]>”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith]>Father Towbray is your Confessor, your spiritual guide and confidant. If there is anyone that can be entrusted to share these revelations with and what they mean, it is he. [Hearty] + [Idealist]
>>4105576>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury]>”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith]>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]
>>4105576>Chapter II, verse XII. Utter no word but the truth. And, if the truth should elude thee, utter no word.” Sir Andrei is may utter no word until he kisses the feet of the Holy Figurehead in Port Bounty. [Sworn to Silence]>Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.” Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered health status until he arrives at Port Bounty. [Flagellation]>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]We are but a tool of the Almighty - who are we to divulge His plans without direction.
>>4105791This is me by the way >>4104621
>>4105576>>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury]>”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith] >Father Towbray is your Confessor, your spiritual guide and confidant. If there is anyone that can be entrusted to share these revelations with and what they mean, it is he. [Hearty] + [Idealist]
>>4105576>>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury]>>”Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.” Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered health status until he arrives at Port Bounty. [Flagellation]>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]
>>4105576>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury>”Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.” Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered health status until he arrives at Port Bounty. [Flagellation>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [IdealistWow now this is going to be a bumby ride.
>>4105576>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury>”Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.” Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered health status until he arrives at Port Bounty. [Flagellation>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]
>>4105909>>4105926Samefag please stop.
>>4105909>>4105926>posts formatted in the exact same way>flagellation missing a ] in both posts
>>4105576>>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury]>”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith]>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]>>4105930>>4105955Could have just copy/paste, though.
>>4105955>>4105930Couse you know that copy and paste is a thing right?I post from my phone so my id chnages alot >>4105909This was my post>>4104784This is also me If i was going to same fag i wouldnt do it in such a obviously way.
>>4105576>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury]>(2) Penance for the Sin of Doubt. Select One.>”Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.” Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered health status until he arrives at Port Bounty. [Flagellation]>(3) The Visions. Select One.>Father Towbray is your Confessor, your spiritual guide and confidant. If there is anyone that can be entrusted to share these revelations with and what they mean, it is he. [Hearty] + [Idealist]
>>4105955>>4105930I copy pastad his shit because I agreed with it, calm down niggers
>>4106012> Bumby> Chnages> If I was going to samefage I wouldnt do it in such a obvious way> I copy pastad his shit> When illiterate-anons bad spelling catches him out on samefagging.
>>4106098Uummm it dosnt prove anything at all, its just a differnt person using the same options as me. Guse evey person that picks the same options are now samefaging??
>>4106158Honest to god, I don't know if you're intentionally spelling this badly or not.Also, I mean, I hope you aren't because I really don't think it's a good idea to talk about the visions.
>>4106169i think it's too committed and subtle to be trolling, he only gets a little attention for it and seems to participate pretty actively
>>4106169I didnt vote to talk about the visions though>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [IdealistThis is what i voted for.Are the visions telling you stuff?Im still amazed that my bad spelling gets any attention at all which is funny in of its self
>>4106176That was why I was hoping you weren't samefagging.Because I also voted to not talk about the visions.
>>4106172Honestly, the first vote is pretty soon to call out samefagging. But the misspelling is both atrocious, consistent, and distinctive for both ID's.
>>4105576(1) Penance for the Sin of Falsehood. Select One.>”Chapter II, verse XII. Utter no word but the truth. And, if the truth should elude thee, utter no word.” Sir Andrei is may utter no word until he kisses the feet of the Holy Figurehead in Port Bounty. [Sworn to Silence](2) Penance for the Sin of Doubt. Select One.>”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith](3) The Visions. Select One.>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]
I really love this quest, but I decided I'm going to give up 4Chan for Lent. See you kniggas again after Easter.
>>4106299Peace be with you, knigga.
>>4105576>(1) Penance for the Sin of Falsehood. Select One.>>”Chapter II, verse XII. Utter no word but the truth. And, if the truth should elude thee, utter no word.” Sir Andrei is may utter no word until he kisses the feet of the Holy Figurehead in Port Bounty. [Sworn to Silence](2) Penance for the Sin of Doubt. Select One.>”Chapter I, verse LX. The lash wielded by thine own hand leaves a deeper mark than any master’s whip.” Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered health status until he arrives at Port Bounty. [Flagellation]-(3) The Visions. Select One.>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]
>>4106299Almighty Bless your Lent>>4105576>”Chapter II, verse XII. Utter no word but the truth. And, if the truth should elude thee, utter no word.” Sir Andrei is may utter no word until he kisses the feet of the Holy Figurehead in Port Bounty. [Sworn to Silence]>”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith]>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]If Emile dies I'm peacing tf out
>>4106306>>4105576Changing my vote for #2 to >”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith] >>4106309Makes this a win/win.Not like we could roll exactly wrong to get hit by lightning, amirite?
Rip I'm late to the party. Well here's my anchor for future posts I guess.
>>4106309Anons are making a lot of risky choices of late, honestly we're really risking it by being literally one roll away from death, I feel like the lack of major consequences so far has kind of contributed to this(How did we not even get like a fine or debt for injuring the dukes son or whatever lol)
>>4106477>How did we not even get like a fine or debt for injuring the dukes son or whatever lolBecause it's a tourney and injury is expected. It'd be a pretty shitty and petty lord who "fined" a knight for injuring a contestant in a tourney
>>4106482We almost got disappeared, too, and had to overcome a challenge scenario to avoid BAD END.
>>4105576>>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury]>”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith]>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]
>>4106477Come on, it's really unlikely we'll get a nat 100.And lightning strikes leave awesome looking trauma.If it happens and we survive, we can view it as amazing stigmata. Maybe even get a vision while unconscious.
>>4106610>>4106477Here's a healed scar.
>>4106477>nearly die to a basilisk being only saved by Kid by a hairs breath>not a consequence of fucking about in Fallavon and conspiraciesLady Vancewell is going to manipulate the shit out of the Marquis to embitter him to us, just because we haven't suffered the full consequences of our actions yet doesn't mean they aren't in the pipes
How mad will Mom be once she finds out we sought out a lighting strike?
>>4106805You mean "proud".
>>4106299Fare you well, knigga
>>4106610>>4106614Is that legit? Neat, I'll have to look up what actually happens to lightning survivors.--------Vote closed. Looks Emile is keen to ride the lightning. Fuck me if this actually kills you, I gave you fair warning well ahead of time.>”Chapter II, verse IX. In His eyes, status and wealth are equally worthless. Purity of the soul is the Almighty’s currency.” Sir Andrei may enjoy no luxury until he arrives at Port Bounty, he gains no bonus from Wealth status or attire. [Penury]>”Chapter I, verse XXVI. Faith is the staple of the brave, not the wise. A man without doubt does not hesitate to grasp the lightning.” At the next Vigil in Pascae, Sir Andrei must actively seek to be struck by lightning during the storm. This could very well kill him. [Leap of Faith]>The Angel has not sworn you to silence, but nor has it bid you to speak of its appearances to any other soul. You will hold your tongue for now, and await Heaven’s command. [Haughty] + [Idealist]With your penance tasks assigned, you ensure you are shorn of any comforts and overt indications of wealth. Mikail sees that Orin puts your fashionable attire and military tabard securely away as your own brother needles you for you plain garb. "So your own kind gifts you with a fetching tabard and you immediately take a vow of penury?" Young Lord Damien grumbles. "Reginae wept, man. You could have just said you didn't like it...""That was ill said, sir. The good Sir Andrei is treating his task of penance with the gravity and sincerity it deserves." The reproval in Sir dan Marc's voice is measured, given Damien's seniority, but your sworn man at least seems to approve of you making more than a token gesture when carrying out your penance. The Vow of Penury you had to explain, but you are not quite sure how to describe the daunting Vow of Faith that Father Towbray set for you. You would prefer your brother's needling to his genuine concern for your health and sanity, you doubt that larrakin sibling of yours would understand. You are nervous already, and Port Bounty is still many weeks away, but perhaps that very uncertainty is what makes this daring leap of faith so necessary for the good of your soul. Father Towbray is a harsh confessor, but one you find refreshing for the soul moreso than the lacklustre chaplain of House Norveski. Cain on the Cross, had it really been that long since your last confession? You resolve to take confession more routinely.[1/3]
A few days later...Tunegan, 11th Day of Novrimun, 883 A.C.E. – West Fallavon RoadsYour new nag Charlie is a very pleasant horse to ride. Demure and past his prime, the gelding does not require your constant attention and respect to keep him in line as Hannibal does. So the days riding in the West Fallavon countryside pass by quite agreeably, you allow yourself to relax as your entourage passes from one habituated hamlet to another without ever needing to stop and make camp on the unfenced forest edge itself. While the golden fields of Aubres is famous for its grain exports, here you can see firsthand the lush breadbasket of agrarian Fallavon. You have seen orchards of every type of fruit tree and berry bush in the few days since you set out; plums, apples, grape and strawberry of all sorts and sizes. Natural and engineered ponds both, for the farming eels and geese and a hundred other delicacies besides. Lumberyards ring with the chop and hack of saw on wood, wheeling in great lumber and carting out planks of solid wood. Most of these goods seem to be headed to Pascae, or rather its ports, but plenty of traffic goes every which way to the other Duchies or petty fiefs of Fallavon itself. You are distracted from your reverie as Hannibal nickers at one of the inattentive pilgrim’s passing too close by. The sound is more half-hearted than his usual neighs of indignation at presence of anyone except yourself, your squire and perhaps Brother Rousseau. Clearly a month eating and sleeping to his great heart’s content has mellowed him out somewhat. His coat has a healthy sheen to it and his pace is much more energetic and springy than it was on the road from Aubrey.[2/3]
[3/3]”No! Saint’s teeth, you dolt!” Mikail’s uncharacteristically snappish tone draws your attention. Orin’s hand has frozen from being about to seize Hannibal’s bridle, doubtless his intention was to tug your great brown destrier away from the path of the oblivious pilgrim. “ You ain’t never, -never- to touch Sir Andrei’s warhorse! Hannibal ain’t the concern of the likes of you, ye hear? That beastie will bite your bloody head off, if milord doesn’t cut it from your sorry shoulders first!”The squabbling of your hirelings and their discipline is, of course, beneath you. But you take it as an encouraging sign that your squire is warming to his role as a peer in charge of others. Albeit his approach could be honed more towards ‘commanding’ rather than ‘bossy’.”Milord, them holy knights ‘as done fair well by Hannibal.” Your squire rides up beside you. You allow Mikail a slight nod in response to his apologetic expression sent your way, as if you had barely noticed the earlier exchange. “I were thinking we’d keep his bridle and such off while we was on the road, only gear ‘im up and the like when milord wishes to ride off and slay something. Charlie ain’t a bad looking horse, no sire, if milord wishes he can do you for the long stretches ahead.”Your squire makes a good point. Even if he is a rubbish rider himself the boy at least seems to know his business as a stablehand. You are loathe to refrain from the comfortable companionship of Hannibal as your dedicated mount as your squire suggests, but keeping him well rested at all times will mean those occasions you do take him into battle will ensure that he is performing at peak proficiency. On the other hand, should you find yourself caught unawares on the road, you would rather already be mounted on Hannibal than astride Charlie when the unexpected attack comes.===============================================================>Hannibal hails from a lineage of beasts bred for war nearly as long and illustrious as your own household. He must remain well-rested and in pristine condition at all times. You will ride him when you mean to make war or sport, and not before. [Haughty] >Hannibal deserves a break, but you will not pamper the big brute. You will switch between him and Charlie often enough that he is not tired, but also work him when you do ride at leisure to keep him in fit enough shape and accustomed to riders. [Hearty] >Hannibal is a princely beast, but a Warhorse is a resource you cannot spare. While you ride Charlie Mikail will intermittently try riding Hannibal, until he is confident in the saddle. That way you can both keep up your squire’s sword lessons and improve his horsemanship. [Idealist]
>>4106898>>Hannibal deserves a break, but you will not pamper the big brute. You will switch between him and Charlie often enough that he is not tired, but also work him when you do ride at leisure to keep him in fit enough shape and accustomed to riders. [Hearty]Obviously we can't over work him anymore but we definitely can't let him get soft and fat. He's a warhorseOn another note Forgotten, where exactly is Port Bounty?
>>4106898>>Hannibal deserves a break, but you will not pamper the big brute. You will switch between him and Charlie often enough that he is not tired, but also work him when you do ride at leisure to keep him in fit enough shape and accustomed to riders. [Hearty]>>4106890The salt will be real if we die from the lightning even by normal thread standards
>>4106898>>Hannibal is a princely beast, but a Warhorse is a resource you cannot spare. While you ride Charlie Mikail will intermittently try riding Hannibal, until he is confident in the saddle. That way you can both keep up your squire’s sword lessons and improve his horsemanship. [Idealist]This also gives Hannibal a workout by having Mikail ride him. Best use of our resources.
>>4106898>Hannibal is a princely beast, but a Warhorse is a resource you cannot spare. While you ride Charlie Mikail will intermittently try riding Hannibal, until he is confident in the saddle. That way you can both keep up your squire’s sword lessons and improve his horsemanship. [Idealist]>I'll have to look up what actually happens to lightning survivors.nothing good I presume
>>4106898>>Hannibal deserves a break, but you will not pamper the big brute. You will switch between him and Charlie often enough that he is not tired, but also work him when you do ride at leisure to keep him in fit enough shape and accustomed to riders. [Hearty]
>>4106898>Hannibal is a princely beast, but a Warhorse is a resource you cannot spare. While you ride Charlie Mikail will intermittently try riding Hannibal, until he is confident in the saddle. That way you can both keep up your squire’s sword lessons and improve his horsemanship. [Idealist]I'm blaming those copper clippers if Emile dies to a Almightly-damned lightning strike. Fucking copper clippers...
>>4106890> Fuck me if this actually kills you, I gave you fair warning well ahead of time.The new adventures of Sir Florence "the Ciseaux", wealthy scion of a Pascae trading house of Lise, recently acquiring the title of Comte through marriage. In lieu of traditional lands, the House of Lise owns properties in many territories, leading the main family to refer to themselves as "du Lise" after acquiring a noble title, but not the land normally attached to it.Raised this far by wealth, Florence seeks to secure his position by inheriting the title of Comte. Something that will require somehow either managing to purchase the debts of his mothers County from those who arranged her families downfall, or getting one of his own by force, marriage, or coin. Support from his father will depend on how much of a return he can make on what wealth his father invests in him.Witness now the rise (and possibly fall) of the Clipper of Copper, Florence "the Ciseaux" du Lise. Money is Power.> The "fiorino d'oro" of the Republic of Florence was the first European gold coin struck in sufficient quantities since the seventh century to play a significant commercial role. > The design of the original Florentine florins was the distinctive fleur-de-lis badge of the city on one side and on the other a standing and facing figure of St. John the Baptist wearing a hair shirt.
>>4106898>Hannibal hails from a lineage of beasts bred for war nearly as long and illustrious as your own household. He must remain well-rested and in pristine condition at all times. You will ride him when you mean to make war or sport, and not before. [Haughty]
>>4106898>Hannibal hails from a lineage of beasts bred for war nearly as long and illustrious as your own household. He must remain well-rested and in pristine condition at all times. You will ride him when you mean to make war or sport, and not before. [Haughty] Besides, it would be inappropriate to ride him while penitent. We must remember a Knight is made by his Vows, not his blade. We shall be the most humble penitents before all others humility!
>>4106898>Hannibal deserves a break, but you will not pamper the big brute. You will switch between him and Charlie often enough that he is not tired, but also work him when you do ride at leisure to keep him in fit enough shape and accustomed to riders. [Hearty]There would've been no point in buying Charlie if we don't let Hannibal to get some rest.I think it will be a good idea to pass down Hannibal to Mikail later on once we've got a mustang or pegasus. Definitely not selling based Hannibal after all we've been through with him that's for sure.
>>4106898>Hannibal deserves a break, but you will not pamper the big brute. You will switch between him and Charlie often enough that he is not tired, but also work him when you do ride at leisure to keep him in fit enough shape and accustomed to riders. [Hearty]
>>4106915That's a nice ambitious copperclipper if I ever saw one.
>>4106898>Hannibal deserves a break, but you will not pamper the big brute. You will switch between him and Charlie often enough that he is not tired, but also work him when you do ride at leisure to keep him in fit enough shape and accustomed to riders. [Hearty]>>4106923Good idea since Mikail is Emile's squire and one of his duties is to take care of and handle the knight's steed. Hannibal has dealt with Mikail and has been taken care of by Mikail so many times for so long that Hannibal has grown accustomed and used to Mikail almost as much as Hannibal has with Emile.
>>4106931Thanks! Mostly I just really wanted to work a Florentine/Fleur-de-lise pun in.But I did stop and think "what could make me want to play a copper clipping Knight?" and a definitive goal to resolve a past injustice of his mother, while being in a powerful but precarious position both externally (retaining the title of Nobility) and internally (the most important thing to his father and Lord is retaining or promoting their noble rank in the family) would give the character complex motivations to succeed by copper clipping.Maybe balance out the wealth by having to support a larger force under the character, or have options to send wealth home for support from the main house, etc. Not sure how much Forgotten would want to flesh out an economic system, but there are lots of ways to make spending wealth more relevant.But it's all just fun nonsense talk. Because Emile will never die, right?
EMILE ANDREI IN THE GRAVE TONIGHT
>>4106898>>Hannibal is a princely beast, but a Warhorse is a resource you cannot spare. While you ride Charlie Mikail will intermittently try riding Hannibal, until he is confident in the saddle. That way you can both keep up your squire’s sword lessons and improve his horsemanship. [Idealist]
>>4106898>Hannibal is a princely beast, but a Warhorse is a resource you cannot spare. While you ride Charlie Mikail will intermittently try riding Hannibal, until he is confident in the saddle. That way you can both keep up your squire’s sword lessons and improve his horsemanship. [Idealist]
>>4106915This is great >>4106961Anything really went out the window once Rosseau died in terms of MC safety, kniggas just need to roll with the punches for its an established fact that a kniggas safety is not guranteed in the pursuit of chivalry. as for the copperclipper prince you've got maybe add a Langlish connection since they are the closest approximation to the Italians we have on hand though I swear Pascae had an italian influence and a small army could be interesting particularly given things afoot in Canton.I personally see lady Vancewell being particularly interesting to such a man driven by wealth and ambition.
>>4106898>>Hannibal deserves a break, but you will not pamper the big brute. You will switch between him and Charlie often enough that he is not tired, but also work him when you do ride at leisure to keep him in fit enough shape and accustomed to riders. [Hearty]Going with this since it means both Hannibal and Charlie will be rested and not tired.When we do the leap of faith, we should take off all of our armour and weapons as well as anything else that is conducive to lightning. Wear a rain cloak too.
>>4106898>Hannibal deserves a break, but you will not pamper the big brute. You will switch between him and Charlie often enough that he is not tired, but also work him when you do ride at leisure to keep him in fit enough shape and accustomed to riders. [HeartyHearty for life>>4105909This is me.
>>4107140The ieda is that we have to try to get hit by the lighting bolt.
>>4106915Should be de Lise, du sounds awkward in this case
>>4107268Yes, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't take measures to protect ourselves for when we get hit. It's a leap of faith and not a leap of death for suicide.Metallic objects in contact with the skin concentrate the lightning's energy, given it is a better natural conductor and the preferred pathway, resulting in more serious injuries, such as burns from molten or evaporating metal.
>>4107277I actually checked on titles.> In France (and England, largely as a result of the Norman Conquest) the particle de precedes a nom de terre ("name of land") in many families of the French nobility (for example, Maximilien de Béthune).[1] A few do not have this particle (for example, Pierre Séguier, Lord Chancellor of France). The particle can also be du ("of the" in the masculine form), d' (employed, in accordance with the rules of orthography, when the nom de terre begins with a vowel; for example, Ferdinand d'Orléans), or des ("of the" in the plural). In French, de indicates a link between the land and a person—either landlord or peasant. I figured, "du" was more practical given the fact that the Comte or Count title isn't technically inheritable without the land that Florence' mothers family lost.So using the masculine "du" would technically slide around that, while also being more aggressive as a statement of intent.I ended up putting way too much thought into a character we'll never use.
>>4107329We might naver use it but qm could use him as a dickhead we end up meating latter on.>>4107282Well get what you saying and normal i would say we should naver be trying to get hit anyways but this is a penace and people are dumb when it comes to these things.Il vote with you if it comes to it.
>>4107361They're not dumb and they don't care about the penance. They know exactly what they're doing and their intention/agenda is very clear. They're just trying to get Emile killed by constantly voting for the choices that are most likely to result in Emile's death so they can get that faggy copper clipper character concept instead. Same thing with what happened with the basilisk. Copper clippers are copper clippers.
>>4106964I can just imagine his mother's reaction"Emile chose to Grasp the Lightning as penance"" He WHAT?!?"
>>4107373Was talking more to do with the people in the story not irl peoples that voted for bolt grabing like there Zeus which is also dumb though it might have to do with not wanting to be battered in case of a fight and lighting only has a 1 in 100 chnace of killing us well 3out of 100 counting 3 rollers.Risk of death latter for an better chance of living right now.Still a dumb idea.Mums probs beating our dad for letting us go.
Rolled 12 (1d100)>>4107402It's only 1 roll of 100Observe
Rolled 24 (1d100)>>4107409No you
Rolled 74 (1d100)>>4106898What happens if we get struck by lightning? I imagine we would roll for injury but get a badass scar and a bonus in martial and courtly settings?>>4107418no YOU
>>4107361> qm could use him as a dickhead we end up meating latter on.Excuse me, I put actual effort into making him not a dickhead.Instead of the selfish pursuit of a second son seeking to raise his name, Florence bears the weight of both reclaiming his Mothers land from debt as well as the Lise House' ambitions to sucessfully become hereditary Nobility. Nothing keeping him from honoring contracts, being pious, etc.No reason he would have to be antagonistic should he appear.
>>4107282Wait I might be retarded, but isnt it literally the opposite, If the metal stuff we're wearing is a better conducter than our meat and bones than wouldnt most of the current go through without harming us? like how youre supposed to stay in your car in a lighting storm. I dont think lightning is strong enough to melt steel, Correct me if I'm wrong though
>>4107402>though it might have to do with not wanting to be battered in case of a fightsince when been crippled is better than being battered out of curiosity
>>4107459In a direct lightning strike, the electrical currents in the flash channel pass directly through the receiver. The high voltage drop around poorer electrical conductors (such as a human being), causes the surrounding air to ionize and break down, and the external flashover diverts most of the main discharge current so that it passes "around" the body, reducing injury.
>>4107465sure, but if im reading that right, would wearing say, a full plate of armor serve the same function since the current passes around the body either way?
>>4107500No since metal is a far better electrical conductor than a human being. Metal receives far higher voltages, resulting in far more serious injuries. If he gets hit by a lightning strike, Emile would turn what could've been serious injuries into merely superficial wounds by not having anything metallic with him.Contrary to common belief, deep burns are rare. They occur in few lightning injuries. Most burns are superficial.
>>4107528OK so I looked it up and the current would only go through the armor, leaving you unexposed to the actual electric charge, but the heat dissipated from travelling though a conductor is still more than enough to cook you. So I guess we came to the same conclusion anyway.
>>4106890Straight of google image search. Fractal scarring.>Hannibal hails from a lineage of beasts bred for war nearly as long and illustrious as your own household. He must remain well-rested and in pristine condition at all times. You will ride him when you mean to make war or sport, and not before. [Haughty]
>>4106898>>4107563Actually switching to >Hannibal is a princely beast, but a Warhorse is a resource you cannot spare. While you ride Charlie Mikail will intermittently try riding Hannibal, until he is confident in the saddle. That way you can both keep up your squire’s sword lessons and improve his horsemanship. [Idealist]Gotta make the best use of what we got.
>>4107463I voted for battered was just trying to make the bolt grabing sounds reasonable to me, thats all.
>>4106898>Hannibal is a princely beast, but a Warhorse is a resource you cannot spare. While you ride Charlie Mikail will intermittently try riding Hannibal, until he is confident in the saddle. That way you can both keep up your squire’s sword lessons and improve his horsemanship. [Idealist]We really need to jumpstar our Squire´s training if we aim to take the Leap of Faith. Also, it will finally allow us to get him to learn to read and write
>>4107329No I'm telling you there's no distinction between de, du, d', des and so on, just what is gramatically correct and what isn'tdu would be suited for a region name (du Trégor, du Gâtinais, etc), or rarely when the name comes from the castle of X (du guesclin, du Bellay) with X being masculine like a villagedu cannot work here because a city or town is feminine, not masculine
>>4107749I'm telling you, they don't have land to be from so that's why they do the "du".
>>4107789Dude, if you want to use a French-sounding name you should follow the proper grammatical rules. Lys is male, Lise is female. You can't use ''du'' for female names in that way, as its almost exclusively masculine. It doesn't really matter if they are landed or not, and it doesn't make it sound aggressive either, only dumb.I quite like your idea, that roleplay would be incredibly interesting.
>>4106898>Hannibal is a princely beast, but a Warhorse is a resource you cannot spare. While you ride Charlie Mikail will intermittently try riding Hannibal, until he is confident in the saddle. That way you can both keep up your squire’s sword lessons and improve his horsemanship. [Idealist]Mikail too is a resource we would do well to use in its proper way. Make him a better rider, a better man, so he can make us proud.
>>4107838Sound Lys out for me. I just added an "e" to lis from Fleur de Lis.Anyways French grammer is third worst in the world.
I pray that the copper clippers will struck down by lightning and not Sir Andrei.
A part of me actually hopes we'll get a nat 100 on the lighting roll. Just imagine the keks and rage that would happen
>>4107969It'll be like Gabriel again but with no excuses this time
>>4107969I hope we get a nat 1 and become one with the lightning
>>4108010Get a sweet stigmata and carcinogenic magical powers?
>>4107373>They know exactly what they're doing and their intention/agenda is very clear. They're just trying to get Emile killed by constantly voting for the choices that are most likely to result in Emile's death Haha oh wow
>>4108094Reeeeeeeeee!> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ifDs46V40sk
>>4107373Imagine thinking people are secretly trying to get the MC we love killed just so we can start all over again. Mate people are just picking fun/interesting options. The lightning dodging penance is great, not only is it cool and exciting but if we manage to crit success it, it'll be an incredible feat and feed into our whole "chosen by god" thing we've got going on. A song for the bards so to speak
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>>4108199How the fuck are you gonna have time to do all this?
>>4108258Emile doesn't know to do those things anyways.But as it says, if your hair begins to stand on end or your skin starts to tingle immediately get into position.
>Hannibal is a princely beast, but a Warhorse is a resource you cannot spare. While you ride Charlie Mikail will intermittently try riding Hannibal, until he is confident in the saddle. That way you can both keep up your squire’s sword lessons and improve his horsemanship. [Idealist]“Your concern for Hannibal’s well-being does you credit, my boy. But I disagree. Hannibal has had a soft time of it lately, we wouldn’t want him to grow lazy and indolent now would we? Say…” You glance back at the quizzical Mikail, as if the idea had only just occurred to you. “How about you try riding him in the morning, before we stop for your lessons? A little exercise for the big brute, and some invaluable experience for you in how to handle yourself on a real horse.” “You… you’re sure, milord?” Mikail eyes Hannibal with a nervousness that wasn’t present before. The massive charger glares back at the lad and nickers, as if laughing at the prospect of this little twig of a human presuming to do anything except change his feed.“Am I ever anything but?” You laugh with false surety, hoping that Hannibal doesn’t kill the lad the first time he tries to saddle up. “No, I think you are ready Mikail. Really. Probably” Your muttered ‘probably’ at the end of the sentence does little to calm your squire’s nerves. “A silver mark says the boy lands on his head the first day.” The Green Knight chuckles, much to the more sensible Sir dan Marc’s disapproval. It surprises all three of you when Brother Rousseau gestures that he will take that bet, but at 1:2 odds. This again does not do much to boost your squire’s confidence. >Hannibal gains the Tired Trait.>1st Week, -5DC to all riding related rolls. 2nd Week, -10DC. 3rd Week -10DC and +1 Adverse Riding/Dismount Re-Roll, etc… Hannibal will retain this debuff until you acquire a second Warhorse or direct Mikail’s horsemanship lessons to cease. Port Bounty in South-West Pascae is 4 weeks travel, Mikail will have improved his horsemanship to basic competence in addition to his martial advancement if he is permitted to ride Hannibal intermittently until your arrival in Port Bounty. [1/3]
Fenegan, 14th Day of Novrimun, 883 A.C.E. - West Fallavon Roads Mikail doesn’t land on his head the next day, or the day after that. Your brother seems far from disappointed in paying up, and he is almost vindicated on Wenegan the second day when Hannibal bolts off without warning, leaping a hedge and flinging the squire off into a none-too-soft landing like a dog shaking off a flea. It is a sound lesson for the bruised and battered Mikail that a Warhorse demands a knight’s constant vigilance and attention, lest their mount sense weakness in the herd leader. When you insist on holding the usual sword lessons that afternoon, despite the boys bruises and aches, you imagine that more than a few pilgrims take the impression that you are a harsh taskmasker indeed. But the boy is learning, no doubt about that.[2/3]
[3/3] Your brother, or the ‘Green Knight’ rather, has taken to his role like a fish to water. Never taking off his helm, speaking in riddles and alluding to great (but vague) deeds of his chequered past. He is a mysterious wonder to the pilgrims, an intriguing curiosity to the handful of Knights Comitas in the escort and an absolute annoyance to yourself and the other members of your entourage that know his identity. Nonetheless, your sworn man Sir Neil dan Marc is warming to the offered entertainment despite his cool opinion on the Young Lord’s all-too-liberal sympathies. He splutters with ill-concealed laughter when Damien flexes during his recounting of a battle with a ‘scarecrow’ in his youth. It is no word of a lie, but his ominous tone when speaking the word ‘scarecrow’ and his trumped up descriptions of near-death-encounters and close calls with the creature leaves the listening pilgrims believing that ‘The Scarecrow of Fabian’s Fields’ was some twisted monstrosity harassing the local village rather than a literal mannequin that you and your brother use to hit with sticks as children when you were playing at knights. “And then, just I had torn the wicked beasts heads from its shoulders the terrible creature’s black-winged minions fell upon me and near drove me from the field!” You don’t approve of your brother purposefully misleading these smallfolk with his tall tales, but you are yourself struggling to contain a smirk as Sir dan Marc curls up clutching his chest and doing his level best not to cry with mirth. Such levity is easily found in the convoy since you set out from Motte-Fallavon. On these laidback days of travel in what feels like safe and relatively civilised farmland the perils of the deep woods seem far and away. You allow yourself to relax, to loosen your shoulders and let some of the tension. ========================================> Good cheer and hearty companionship is all well and good, but you find yourself hanging back in the rear of the caravan. The watchful silence of Jess the Kid compliments the contented peace of Brother Rousseau well enough, it is nice to sit back and enjoy the scenery every now and then. [Haughty] > This is the kind of jovial companionship you had always looked forward to on the road when you had imagined yourself setting out on errantry. You ride at the head of the convoy with Sir dan Marc, the Green Knight and other Knights Comitas, joking with the best of them. [Hearty] >You contribute little, but you pay attention to their back-and-forth theological debates between Sister Ignatius and Father Towbray in the middle of the convoy as well as you can. You have the impression that, if not for your presence, their philosophical disagreements would spill over into animosity. [Idealist]
>>4108383>>4107940>>4107843>>4107610>>4107577>>4107021>>4106992>>4106971>>4106914>>4106910>>4106906>>4106903>>4106904>>4106912>>4106917>>4106923>>4106927>>4106928>>4106932>>4106943>>4107055>>4107062>>4107140>>4107362Forgotten I think you you got the vote count wrong. Hearty has more votes.
>>4108467>> This is the kind of jovial companionship you had always looked forward to on the road when you had imagined yourself setting out on errantry. You ride at the head of the convoy with Sir dan Marc, the Green Knight and other Knights Comitas, joking with the best of them. [Hearty]I fucking love Damien, can he just ride with us forever as the Green Knight? Fuck being a Lord
>>4108470Forgot to include this>>4107263 vote too for hearty.
>>4108470Ah bugger, will go back and double-check. Should make for an easy enough amendment. Thank you for setting me straight
Vote is still open for the latest update
Huh.Oddly with that debuff, it might be good to allow Mikails training to be 1 week on, 1 week off.
>>4108474No problem. We all make makes mistakes.>>4108467>You contribute little, but you pay attention to their back-and-forth theological debates between Sister Ignatius and Father Towbray in the middle of the convoy as well as you can. You have the impression that, if not for your presence, their philosophical disagreements would spill over into animosity. [Idealist]
>>4108467>Good cheer and hearty companionship is all well and good, but you find yourself hanging back in the rear of the caravan. The watchful silence of Jess the Kid compliments the contented peace of Brother Rousseau well enough, it is nice to sit back and enjoy the scenery every now and then. [Haughty]
>>4108467>You contribute little, but you pay attention to their back-and-forth theological debates between Sister Ignatius and Father Towbray in the middle of the convoy as well as you can. You have the impression that, if not for your presence, their philosophical disagreements would spill over into animosity. [Idealist]
>>4108467>This is the kind of jovial companionship you had always looked forward to on the road when you had imagined yourself setting out on errantry. You ride at the head of the convoy with Sir dan Marc, the Green Knight and other Knights Comitas, joking with the best of them. [Hearty]
>>4108467> This is the kind of jovial companionship you had always looked forward to on the road when you had imagined yourself setting out on errantry. You ride at the head of the convoy with Sir dan Marc, the Green Knight and other Knights Comitas, joking with the best of them. [Hearty]
>>4108467>> This is the kind of jovial companionship you had always looked forward to on the road when you had imagined yourself setting out on errantry. You ride at the head of the convoy with Sir dan Marc, the Green Knight and other Knights Comitas, joking with the best of them. [Hearty]Enjoy time with our bro. We'd not be seeing him for quite some time.
>>4108467>> Good cheer and hearty companionship is all well and good, but you find yourself hanging back in the rear of the caravan. The watchful silence of Jess the Kid compliments the contented peace of Brother Rousseau well enough, it is nice to sit back and enjoy the scenery every now and then. [Haughty]
>>4108467>You contribute little, but you pay attention to their back-and-forth theological debates between Sister Ignatius and Father Towbray in the middle of the convoy as well as you can. You have the impression that, if not for your presence, their philosophical disagreements would spill over into animosity. [Idealist]my paranoic senses are tingling
>>4108467>> This is the kind of jovial companionship you had always looked forward to on the road when you had imagined yourself setting out on errantry. You ride at the head of the convoy with Sir dan Marc, the Green Knight and other Knights Comitas, joking with the best of them. [Hearty]
>>4108467>> This is the kind of jovial companionship you had always looked forward to on the road when you had imagined yourself setting out on errantry. You ride at the head of the convoy with Sir dan Marc, the Green Knight and other Knights Comitas, joking with the best of them. [Hearty]This is a welcome change from battling demons,
>riding the lightningy'all gonna kill Ser Andrei>>4108467>> Good cheer and hearty companionship is all well and good, but you find yourself hanging back in the rear of the caravan. The watchful silence of Jess the Kid compliments the contented peace of Brother Rousseau well enough, it is nice to sit back and enjoy the scenery every now and then. [Haughty]
>>4108467> This is the kind of jovial companionship you had always looked forward to on the road when you had imagined yourself setting out on errantry. You ride at the head of the convoy with Sir dan Marc, the Green Knight and other Knights Comitas, joking with the best of them. [HeartyOn the yellow brick road of we go.
>>4108467> This is the kind of jovial companionship you had always looked forward to on the road when you had imagined yourself setting out on errantry. You ride at the head of the convoy with Sir dan Marc, the Green Knight and other Knights Comitas, joking with the best of them. [HeartyOn the yellow brick road of we go.>>4107263This is me as well.
>>4108693>>4108692Well that was a werid double post from my phone thought i had stoped the frist one to link my past id on the new post.Just count thies as one vote
>>4108467> Good cheer and hearty companionship is all well and good, but you find yourself hanging back in the rear of the caravan. The watchful silence of Jess the Kid compliments the contented peace of Brother Rousseau well enough, it is nice to sit back and enjoy the scenery every now and then. [Haughty]Enjoy the silence.
>>4107880>>4108774'Tis me.
>>4108467> This is the kind of jovial companionship you had always looked forward to on the road when you had imagined yourself setting out on errantry. You ride at the head of the convoy with Sir dan Marc, the Green Knight and other Knights Comitas, joking with the best of them. [Hearty]Emile has literally gotten drunk and made a fool of himself every chance hes got, dont think he'd really be the strong and silent type.
> This is the kind of jovial companionship you had always looked forward to on the road when you had imagined yourself setting out on errantry. You ride at the head of the convoy with Sir dan Marc, the Green Knight and other Knights Comitas, joking with the best of them. [Hearty]knights before mites
>>4108467>You contribute little, but you pay attention to their back-and-forth theological debates between Sister Ignatius and Father Towbray in the middle of the convoy as well as you can. You have the impression that, if not for your presence, their philosophical disagreements would spill over into animosity. [Idealist]We're in the middle of penance, no?
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>>4108467> Good cheer and hearty companionship is all well and good, but you find yourself hanging back in the rear of the caravan. The watchful silence of Jess the Kid compliments the contented peace of Brother Rousseau well enough, it is nice to sit back and enjoy the scenery every now and then. [Haughty]
Miscounted Vote>Hannibal deserves a break, but you will not pamper the big brute. You will switch between him and Charlie often enough that he is not tired, but also work him when you do ride at leisure to keep him in fit enough shape and accustomed to riders. [Hearty]>Hannibal will not gain the Tired Trait. I will assume, unless otherwise indicated, that you happen to be riding him in the event of an ambush on the moving convoy.----------------------------------------------------> This is the kind of jovial companionship you had always looked forward to on the road when you had imagined yourself setting out on errantry. You ride at the head of the convoy with Sir dan Marc, the Green Knight and other Knights Comitas, joking with the best of them. [Hearty] Monegan, 17th Day of Novrimun, 883 A.C.E. - West Fallavon Roads>Sore Shoulder reduced to -1DCYou had expected these new Comitas Knights to be something of a dour lot, the life of a holy knight not being something you would think given overmuch to jest and good humours. You turn out to be very much mistaken, as demonstrated when you ask them what you can expect in Port Bounty.“Last time I was in Pascae, a young woman, somewhat of a simpleton, was on the point of delivering a baby. She had long been enduring acute pain, and the midwife, candle in hand, inspected her secret area, in order to ascertain if the child was coming. “Look also on the other side,” said the poor creature, “my husband has sometimes taken that road.”Brother Gaspard speaks softly and wheezes with every laugh as you all guffaw, you later learn it is compliments of a damaged lung he received from breathing in noxious fumes while fighting some terrible spore-sprouting fungal monster on the eastern roads. Brother Cancicail is the youngest of you all, including Sir Neil dan Marc, and the one most impressed by the Green Knight’s boisterous tales and mysterious allure. Perhaps this is why he is also full of fairly ribald jokes regarding his past charges.“I once had the pleasure of escorting the Bishop of Port Bounty, a very fat and corpulent man. Upon our arrival at Aubrey one evening he enquired of a peasant he met, “Do you think I shall be able to enter the gate?” Of course, he thus meant to ask whether he was likely to reach the city before the closing of the gates. But the country-man, rallying his stoutness, replied, “To be sure, you will; a cartload of hay gets through, why should not you?”The chortle and laughter of you five knights and attendants at the head of the convoy is a frequent sound, one that lets the days and leagues pass quickly and gaily to your reckoning. It is on the eight day since your departure from Motte-Fallavon, well to the west of the Duchy lands, that your convoy encounters a posse of men bearing the green-black wolf of House Sinclair.[1/3]
“Hail, Sir Jean Sinclair!” You flip your visor in salute as you recognise the mounted knight at the head of the group of plain men-at-arms. They are clustered around a tree, tying a rope over a branch. “What’s this then? If I may be so bold.”You reckon that your miscalculation with the Marquis in the melee made Sinclair warm to you more than any kind word could have. There seems to be little love lost between him and the Duke’s household.“Hail, Sir Andrei the Bear. Of course you may.” The third son of Lord Sinclair and the cousin of the Maid Ava Sinclair salutes back. “A bit of housecleaning, you might say. We caught this runaway serf attempting to sneak off our lands, and here is where we shall hang him to make an example.”You look down at the sobbing wretch, a pitiful example indeed. The teary-eyed dirty louse has scabbed limbs and rough fingernails, a lifetime of drudgery and hard work has done him few favours. Doubtless this is the type of discontent peasant that makes for ripe recruitment into the Bluejay bands. “You’re going to hang him? For running away?” Sometimes you wish you could sow your idiot brother’s mouth shut. “What about just a flogging instead? A damn trial at least.”[2/3]
[3/3]“A trial? For this pauper? Don’t make me laugh.” Sir Sinclair speaks with a cool tone. “And you are?”“Apologies, Sir. I am the Green Knight, my name must remain a chief secret for now.” There is an exchange of glances between you and the other knights. This is taking an unpleasant turn. “My question stands though.”“How… bold. I am not in the habit of explaining myself or our laws to outsiders. All land from this crossroad to the River Yerden in the West is under the remit of House Sinclair.” A dangerous tenor, one with an edge to it that makes you take note of how many man-at-arms he has at his disposal. The odds are heavily in your favour, but the last thing you want to do is start a fight with a Fallavon house. And, not to mention, it wouldn’t likely endear you to his female cousin at all. “I am charged with executing justice as I see fit, and I see fit to hang the wretch. If you take issue with my authority, say so. I could use the exercise.” Sir Jean Sinclair’s position is clear. He is the law out here. Judge, jury and executioner as he sees fit. House Sinclair has a reputation for draconian frontier justice even in a Duchy renowned for it’s fast-and-loose enforcement of the law. Clearly it rankles at your brother’s sensitivities like a sore tooth.------------------------------------------------------> “You are the law here, good knight. No one is disputing that. Please excuse my companion’s passionate outburst.” The law is the law, even when the law is mete out harshly. Your brother knows nothing of the harsh measures necessary to maintain order out here. [Haughty] >“How about a wager, Sir? Tails, the whip. Heads, the noose.” You attempt to defuse the situation with a gamble, making light of the whole situation. One wretched serf’s life is not worth knights coming to blows with one another over. [Hearty]>“The Green Knight speaks true. This is not justice.” There is a difference between the law and justice. You don’t want to challenge the skilled Sir Sinclair to prove the point. But you will if you have to, better you than your peacock brother at any rate. [Idealist]
>>4109839>“The Green Knight speaks true. This is not justice.” There is a difference between the law and justice. You don’t want to challenge the skilled Sir Sinclair to prove the point. But you will if you have to, better you than your peacock brother at any rate. [Idealist]
>>4109839>“The Green Knight speaks true. This is not justice.” There is a difference between the law and justice. You don’t want to challenge the skilled Sir Sinclair to prove the point. But you will if you have to, better you than your peacock brother at any rate. [Idealist]If we don't then our brother definitely will challenge him for a duel regardless of Emile's decision. Damien risked his life to save beastfolk slaves.
>>4109839> “You are the law here, good knight. No one is disputing that. Please excuse my companion’s passionate outburst.” The law is the law, even when the law is mete out harshly. Your brother knows nothing of the harsh measures necessary to maintain order out here. [Haughty]
>>4109839>> “You are the law here, good knight. No one is disputing that. Please excuse my companion’s passionate outburst.” The law is the law, even when the law is mete out harshly. Your brother knows nothing of the harsh measures necessary to maintain order out here. [Haughty]"However good sir, if he is to pass by your judgement, I beg you allow him a final blessing and confession as befits any condemned's last rites. I'm sure the priests traveling with us will be happy to perform them."
>>4108500My old id my current I'd if has changed >>4109846
>>4109839>> “You are the law here, good knight. No one is disputing that. Please excuse my companion’s passionate outburst.” The law is the law, even when the law is mete out harshly. Your brother knows nothing of the harsh measures necessary to maintain order out here. [Haughty]
>>4109847+1 support
>>4109839>> “You are the law here, good knight. No one is disputing that. Please excuse my companion’s passionate outburst.” The law is the law, even when the law is mete out harshly. Your brother knows nothing of the harsh measures necessary to maintain order out here. [Haughty]and this >>4109847Frankly... If our brother was to ask for a duel. This is fine. He is the heir apparent. He needs to cool his head of his. A good loss against a skilled opponent who will likely hold his sword against a lethal blow will be good for him.That just a strong swordarm alone is insufficient to change the minds of others. He must be able to approach them and convince them through other means or he will not be a good lord.If a duel does ensure, we should be his second. And should he lose, as 'The green knight's companion, we can easily sooth things out between Sir Jean and our party once it is over. Begging his indulgence due to our brother having too pure and eager a heart.
>>4109839>Your authority isn't question Sir, these are your lands and I understand how the law is enforce in Motte-Fallavon. But I appeal to your authority for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes.
>>4109839>“The Green Knight speaks true. This is not justice.” There is a difference between the law and justice. You don’t want to challenge the skilled Sir Sinclair to prove the point. But you will if you have to, better you than your peacock brother at any rate. [Idealist]House Andrei won't be having any alliances or friendly relations with House Sinclair once Damien becomes Lord Andrei that's for sure.
>>4109839>> “You are the law here, good knight. No one is disputing that. Please excuse my companion’s passionate outburst.” The law is the law, even when the law is mete out harshly. Your brother knows nothing of the harsh measures necessary to maintain order out here. [Haughty]When in Rome do as the Romans do. Once Damien inherits he can do whatever he wants on our lands.
>>4109873Depends i'd say. I hope he calms down as he matures and is less hot-headed. That he loves the common people is not a minus and will aid him in governing our home well but he'll do well to remember that his influence only spreads so far.Luckily, his identity is secret for now and Romaine does have this thing where the womenfolk are the plotters and alliance-makers so we might still be able to maintain somewhat friendly relations.
>>4109839> “You are the law here, good knight. No one is disputing that. Please excuse my companion’s passionate outburst.” The law is the law, even when the law is mete out harshly. Your brother knows nothing of the harsh measures necessary to maintain order out here. [Haughty]Add this >>4109847
>>4109839>“The Green Knight speaks true. This is not justice.” There is a difference between the law and justice. You don’t want to challenge the skilled Sir Sinclair to prove the point. But you will if you have to, better you than your peacock brother at any rate. [Idealist]This is not justice but they do have the right to pass punishment and judgment among those that commit crimes on their lands and if anyone's going to pick or stand for a fight to be had I'd rather it be us rather than our brother
>>4109866Damien and Sinclair are too evenly matched for a duel between them to have a determined result. It will most likely be decided by a roll poll. Sinclair doesn't know that the Green Knight is our brother so there's no guarantee he won't kill him if he wins.Losing this duel won't change Damien's outlook or how he would've approached this. It will simply mean that he wasn't strong enough to win.>>4109878Damien is a Bluejay indebted to the Wytes with his life and he put his life on the line to free beastfolk slaves. It's not ''depends'' I say.
>>4109839>“You are the law here, good knight. No one is disputing that. Please excuse my companion’s passionate outburst.” The law is the law, even when the law is mete out harshly. Your brother knows nothing of the harsh measures necessary to maintain order out here. [Haughty]
>>4109886Me >>4106928
>>4109839>“The Green Knight speaks true. This is not justice.” There is a difference between the law and justice. You don’t want to challenge the skilled Sir Sinclair to prove the point. But you will if you have to, better you than your peacock brother at any rate. [Idealist]Difficult choice, but considering we mercy killed old man jenkins way back, I'd rather stay consistent with Emile's moral compunctions. Emile may not have a high opinion of peasants, but Knights are meant to be shepards, not butchers.
Remember that House Sinclair is fiercely independent even among those on Fallavon. Direct interference will be meet with more resistance to assert their authority, a subtler method has a great chance of success without causing offense.
>>4109887I wouldn't say he was a bluejay or indebted at all. He said himself it was an allegiance of convenience. He made a sacred vow and needed their help to fulfill it.
>>4109904He had his life saved by Tailor who was a bluejay and is indebted to them. He couldn't become an official member because they didn't let him, not because of any lack of desire to join them from his side.>''My new friend, he could have turned me over. He had his own reasons for not doing so, I’m sure. But he risked his life to get me in with his rebel contacts and from there I joined them heading north.''>''The people living in this forest, human or otherwise, they’re bystanders in all this. Victims. I can’t let them suffer while I save my own skin.”>“Equality, where every man is entitled to the sweat of his own brow. Is it so outrageous to you, brother? Were I born in a farmstead rather than a castle I’d have doubtless long dropped the pitchfork and taken up the bow with these fellows.”My point still stands that the result of a duel between him and Sinclair won't change his viewpoint/outlook, character, beliefs, or how he would've approached this.
>>4109899Yeah, don't forget this too:>“To the just laws, a righteous man must obey. To the unjust laws, a righteous man must defy.”-EmileAnd the noblese oblige we've been constantly touting. I guess some think it's only noblese oblige when it's convenient and easy.
>>4109937This is really just the ugly side of that dynamic at play, they morally should be taken to task for not dealing a just punishment but as the law stands they are well within their right to judge and punish as they see fit.
>>4109937True, and that kind of ties into the fact that we just got told that we should tell the truth, even when its not convienant, even when further bloodshed might be prevented, although hopefully it wont go that far here. It will more than likely hurt our relations though.
>>4109869Good write-in but allow me to enhance it.>>4109839>Write-in>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Motte-Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.''What do you think?
>>4110078Very good, I approved. I'm glad we had that conversation with Ava.
>>4110078Supporting this write-in.This is the best choice, combining the fact that Emile wants to save the peasant BUT does not want to confront Jean Sinclair directly.
>>4110121>>4109839Oops, forgot to quote Forgotten.
>>4110078Support
>>4110124You should quote the author or else he won't count your vote.
>>4109839>>4109882Changing my vote to >>4110078
>>4109839>>4110078Definitely supporting. This is a great write-in as it's in-character, makes many great points, and Sir Jean will look positively on an appeal from Emile because it recognizes his authority as judge not to mention that he warmed over to Emile after what happened with Marquis Fallavon.
>>4109839>“How about a wager, Sir? Tails, the whip. Heads, the noose.” You attempt to defuse the situation with a gamble, making light of the whole situation. One wretched serf’s life is not worth knights coming to blows with one another over. [HeartyThough i would say if he gets hanged at lest let our priests make this guys soul rest in peace.Hearty for life.>>4108693This is me
Come on niggas, just let him be done with the serf
>>4110078>>4109839+1 Excellent writein especially with that last bit at the end.
>>4110078it is good, in theoryi fear that in practice, telling a lord how to run his realm is asking for a kick in the cunti would be pissed
>>4110152Exactly this. I get the feeling that this write-in will blow up in our face
>>4110078>>4109839This is good and I see literally no point in not choosing it so I'm supporting it. An appeal to the lord authority judge isn't telling him how to rule his lands.
>>4110152Yeah this is an extremely stupid course of action, this one is much more reasonable>>4109869>>4109839>>Your authority isn't question Sir, these are your lands and I understand how the law is enforce in Motte-Fallavon. But I appeal to your authority for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes.
>>4110078>>4109839>>4109869support
>>4110078>>4109839+1
>>4110078>>4109839Supporting
>>4110078Good luck trying to convince the Noble with the mentality of the weak should fear the STRONK, man is really a bad time to be on penury
>>4110078Supporting, nice job.
Dont know if people have forgotten but we dont get any dc bonus from both wealth and fancy dress code so the dc for this talk down is going to suck.
>>4109839>>4110078I'll back this, maybe with a few more Almighty's thrown in
>>4109839 > “You are the law here, good knight. No one is disputing that. I have had to hang villians myself, and know the necessity of it at times. I am merely concerned that hanging them first does not give them the chance for redemption. As I am currently on a pilgrimage, and travelling with men and women of the Faith including priests, I would like to ask that in the honour of our forefathers who fought for all men that you consider a more merciful punishment. If you still insist on death for thos mans crimes, at least let him make his final confession for the good of his soul."No way he can refuse to let a man confess before dying. And it will be interesting to see how he reacts to insisting on hanging him.
>>4110078I like this, but I think that it will come off as a challenge to his authority and honour. It's not just questioning how he is dealing with this situation, but it's an outsider who "Knows nothing, John Snow" chastising the harsh law of Fallavon. Like, y'all think other Nobles haven't criticized them for this before?I work in O&G, I see this all the time between Cidiots and rural people.Sinclair can't accept this criticism from some random Knight from another Duchy who isn't even the lord of the land but only a second son, repeating what his father told him but he never had to practice.>>4108775Is me.
>>4110227Making an appeal to a judge isnt a challenge to his authority or criticism, but a recognition of his authority.>Sinclair can't accept this criticism from some random Knight from another Duchy who isn't even the lord of the land but only a second son, repeating what his father told him but he never had to practice.Literally everything written here is untrue. First, Emile isn't a random knight. Sinclair knows him and fought with him during Lord Duncan's Tourney/Tournament. Second, Sir Jean Sinclair himself isn't a lord of any land and is just a third born knight. Third, Emile already practiced this multiple times in the quest like with the goat beastmen and Sir Hast Vancewell.
>>4109839> “You are the law here, good knight. No one is disputing that. Please excuse my companion’s passionate outburst.” The law is the law, even when the law is mete out harshly. Your brother knows nothing of the harsh measures necessary to maintain order out here. [Haughty]>4109847"However good sir, if he is to pass by your judgement, I beg you allow him a final blessing and confession as befits any condemned's last rites. I'm sure the priests traveling with us will be happy to perform them.Supporting this write in.
>>4110391>>4109839Yeah, this sounds like the best way to go.
>>4110239Fighting a dude in a tourney isn't really something that gives Emile the authority to call him out on following his family's policy of rule.The write in goes too far and criticizes his policy, as opposed to this specific case. We're not on equal ground. We're on his lands, from another duchy, we don't have a higher status in our own duchy, and we're currently doing penance so no social bonuses.We should instead focus on the penance and appeal to the higher authority of our shared faith instead of our position as a noble and make it an issue of different views of governance.Hopefully we can draw in Father Towbray to give the serf a penance. I mean, we're gonna face a lightning strike, no way that Sinclair could claim Towbray is soft with his penance.If we can recontextualize the serf running away as a moral failing and not an act of rebellion against his rightful lord then there's a chance we can save him.Undermining Sinclair's authority is probably not going to go well. I mean, it's tales of Lords that indulge their serfs that incite them to try running in the first place.
>>4110078Supporting this >Write-inGood job on you two, perfectly captures the sentiment of the scene.
>>4109839Fuck this draconian faggot in the dickhole with the sharpest object in our possession. A knight protects the weak, this peasant is being murdered for fleeing from obvious inhuman treatment. He must be defended as our knightly vows compel us to do. Sinclair must be educated in the error of his ways in pain and blood.>Other, challenge Sir Sinclair to a duel for the life of the peasant.
>>4110486Wait. Don't we have a vow where we can't refuse aid or something?
>>4110474>Fighting a dude in a tourney isn't really something that gives Emile the authority to call him out on following his family's policy of rule.An appeal of clemency isn't calling out. this is a pure strawman. Don't your put your words into other people's mouths.>The write in goes too far and criticizes his policy, as opposed to this specific case.You conjured this up in an attempt to make the write-in easier to attack. It's simply making an appeal. The beginning of the write-in is literally ''''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Motte-Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency.''>We're not on equal ground. We're on his lands, from another duchy, we don't have a higher status in our own duchy, and we're currently doing penance so no social bonuses.We're not on his lands. We're at the West Fallavon roads. He isn't the Duke of Fallavon nor the lord of any land. His status is the same as us, a knight.>Undermining Sinclair's authority is probably not going to go well. I mean, it's tales of Lords that indulge their serfs that incite them to try running in the first place.You keep repeating that we're ''undermining'' his authority with zero basis. The write-in is an appeal to a judge. It's literally a recognition of his authority as judge.
>>4109839Do we get a situational bonus if we go with >>4110474 and focus on the penance aspect, since we're doing penance ourselves? Instead of having a penalty for diplomacy from our penance?
>>4110524>Knight's Code>"His Blade Defends the Helpless"+Blademaster: +10DC to Combat-Vow: You may not strike down a defenceless or unarmed opponent. >"His Heart Knows Only Virtue+Holy Orders: +1 Combat Re-Roll, +1 Step on the Path of Adam-Vow: You may not be unfaithful to your wife, nor may you sire bastards even if unmarried. >His Might Upholds The Weak+Staggering Blows: Opponent's suffer additional Injury(-5DC) with every point damage.*You may refuse no call for aid, honestly asked for. These are the knight's code vow that we have sworn.
>>4110528> Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.All of this immediately questions his judgement not just of the serf but of him as a lord.Like. Did you even read it? It immediately criticizes him right after the write in has Emile say he isn't going to criticize him.Maybe if Emile had a higher rank than him, or a reputation as a leader of men, or was in the duchy of Romaine it could work.But in this situation it's just condescending.> We're not on his lands. He literally told us "All land from this crossroad to the River Yerden in the West is under the remit of House Sinclair.” Yes. Yes we are.> Telling him that his methods are inferior and that our Father rules so well that serfs don't want to run away in front of a runaway serf isn't undermining his authorityYeah, because letting the serf go to tell people of a better life existing in Romaine is totally what Sinclair will let happen.
>>4110552I reread it. Luckily, the serf didn't ask for aid. Whew! Crises averted.
>>4110554>All of this immediately questions his judgement not just of the serf but of him as a lord.It seems you're not gonna stop asserting your bullshit, so I'm gonna keep correcting you. First, he isn't a lord no matter how many times you repeat it, you parrot. Second, giving reason to why he should accept the clemency appeal isn't questioning his judgment. It's very amusing how you switched the goalpost from questioning his authority to questioning his judgement. >Like. Did you even read it? It immediately criticizes him right after the write in has Emile say he isn't going to criticize him.Third, telling him what the other serfs will do is not criticism. It's informing him that this will not grant him the desired result that he seeks.>Maybe if Emile had a higher rank than him, or a reputation as a leader of men, or was in the duchy of Romaine it could work.Emile has the same rank as him and has already led men at the Battle of the King's Road.>But in this situation it's just condescending.Baseless assertion with zero substance.>He literally told us "All land from this crossroad to the River Yerden in the West is under the remit of House Sinclair.”Even if it is he isn't the lord of this land.>Telling him that his methods are inferior and that our Father rules so well that serfs don't want to run away in front of a runaway serf isn't undermining his authorityLel and now you're coming up with more strawman and putting it in my mouth. Simply amazing. No point in addressing your own made up words.>Yeah, because letting the serf go to tell people of a better life existing in Romaine is totally what Sinclair will let happen.The serfs of house Sinclair already know that there is a better life and better lords outside the Sinclair lands. That's why they ran away at the first place. They're not gonna stop fleeing to the lands of other lords till the Sinclairs start treating them better. Hanging them won't deter anything. Either they escape to better lands ruled by better rulers or they fail and get a death that gives them peace. Think before you open your mouth.
>>4110524>>4110552>"His Blade Defends the Helpless"+Blademaster: +10DC to Combat-Vow: You may not strike down a defenceless or unarmed opponent.>Strike down- Now while this may seem to imply we never actively kill a unarmed or surrendered opponent it more likely alludes to that we are sworn to defend those who cannot defend themselves. The weak, the poor, the young, the old, those without the means to see to their own defense.>Defenseless.Synonyms include: Vulnerable, Helpless, Weak, Unarmed, Powerless.Through just some slight interpretation of our Oath, which we have sworn, we are duty bound to protect this peasant from what is obviously a cruel and unjust killing.
>>4110624Okay, pal, best of luck with it then. We have a noble doing his duty as is his right and responsibility according to how it has always been done, but no all he needs is someone to straightforwardly tell him it's all wrong because that's not how his dad does it at their house.
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(1) Fair words and common sense> “You are the law here, good knight. No one is disputing that. Please excuse my companion’s passionate outburst.” The law is the law, even when the law is mete out harshly. Your brother knows nothing of the harsh measures necessary to maintain order out here. [Haughty] You side with Sir Sinclair and attempt to convince your brother to relent.>"However good sir, if he is to pass by your judgement, I beg you allow him a final blessing and confession as befits any condemned's last rites. I'm sure the priests traveling with us will be happy to perform them." [Write in] + [Haughty] You side with Sir Sinclair and attempt to convince your brother to accept last rites and confession as mercy enough.>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.'' [Write in] You try not blatantly challenge Sir Sinclair’s authority, but you appeal to him as the authority for mercy. If he refuses you will attempt convince your brother to stand down.>“The Green Knight speaks true. This is not justice.” There is a difference between the law and justice. You don’t want to challenge the skilled Sir Sinclair to prove the point. But you will if you have to, better you than your peacock brother at any rate. [Idealist] You side with your brother and will challenge Sir Sinclair to a trial by combat if necessary to spare the serfs life.(2) Should words fail to convince either Sir Sinclair or the Green Knight you will…>Duel Sir Sinclair yourself, you cannot allow your brother to risk his life in some foolishness after getting him out of the forest alive. Whether you take issue with Sinclair’s harshness or not is besides the point. [Haughty]>Stand in as your brother’s second in the duel against Sir Sinclair. He is the one who has taken issue, even if combat against a fellow blademaster is ill-advised. Perhaps your brother might learn a lesson.[Hearty]>Make no intervention action unless the serf actually asks for aid. If your brother tries to make a scene you will insist that he relents, as he owes you. Most others will have no idea what you mean, but the Green Knight will. [Idealist]
>>4110710>"However good sir, if he is to pass by your judgement, I beg you allow him a final blessing and confession as befits any condemned's last rites. I'm sure the priests traveling with us will be happy to perform them." [Write in] + [Haughty]>Make no intervention action unless the serf actually asks for aid. If your brother tries to make a scene you will insist that he relents, as he owes you. Most others will have no idea what you mean, but the Green Knight will. [Idealist]
>>4110710(1) Fair words and common sense>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.'' [Write in]>“The Green Knight speaks true. This is not justice.” There is a difference between the law and justice. You don’t want to challenge the skilled Sir Sinclair to prove the point. But you will if you have to, better you than your peacock brother at any rate. [Idealist](2) Should words fail to convince either Sir Sinclair or the Green Knight you will…>Duel Sir Sinclair yourself, you cannot allow your brother to risk his life in some foolishness after getting him out of the forest alive. Whether you take issue with Sinclair’s harshness or not is besides the point. [Haughty]
>>4110710(1)>"However good sir, if he is to pass by your judgement, I beg you allow him a final blessing and confession as befits any condemned's last rites. I'm sure the priests traveling with us will be happy to perform them." [Write in] + [Haughty] You side with Sir Sinclair and attempt to convince your brother to accept last rites and confession as mercy enough.(2)>Stand in as your brother’s second in the duel against Sir Sinclair. He is the one who has taken issue, even if combat against a fellow blademaster is ill-advised. Perhaps your brother might learn a lesson.[Hearty]Talk shit, take the hit.
>>4110710>“The Green Knight speaks true. This is not justice.” There is a difference between the law and justice. You don’t want to challenge the skilled Sir Sinclair to prove the point. But you will if you have to, better you than your peacock brother at any rate. [Idealist]>Duel Sir Sinclair yourself, you cannot allow your brother to risk his life in some foolishness after getting him out of the forest alive. Whether you take issue with Sinclair’s harshness or not is besides the point. [Haughty]write in seems like a halfway option that tries to weasel out of consequences honestly, reminds me of Tracker jean write in, seems like it would just piss him off more, we're telling Sinclair he doesn't know whats best for him in more words basically.
>>4110710(1) Fair words and common sense>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.'' [Write in](2) Should words fail to convince either Sir Sinclair or the Green Knight you will…>Duel Sir Sinclair yourself, you cannot allow your brother to risk his life in some foolishness after getting him out of the forest alive. Whether you take issue with Sinclair’s harshness
>>4110710>"However good sir, if he is to pass by your judgement, I beg you allow him a final blessing and confession as befits any condemned's last rites. I'm sure the priests traveling with us will be happy to perform them." [Write in] + [Haughty]>Stand in as your brother’s second in the duel against Sir Sinclair. He is the one who has taken issue, even if combat against a fellow blademaster is ill-advised. Perhaps your brother might learn a lesson.[Hearty]And honestly, he is the older brother and future lord, he should make his own decisions and stand by them
>>4110728> reminds me of Tracker jean write in, seems like it would just piss him off more, we're telling Sinclair he doesn't know whats best for him in more words basically.Exactly.
>>4110710>>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.'' [Write in] You try not blatantly challenge Sir Sinclair’s authority, but you appeal to him as the authority for mercy. If he refuses you will attempt convince your brother to stand down.>Make no intervention action unless the serf actually asks for aid. If your brother tries to make a scene you will insist that he relents, as he owes you. Most others will have no idea what you mean, but the Green Knight will. [Idealist]
>>4110710>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.'' [Write in]>Stand in as your brother’s second in the duel against Sir Sinclair. He is the one who has taken issue, even if combat against a fellow blademaster is ill-advised. Perhaps your brother might learn a lesson.[Hearty]
>>4110710>>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.'' [Write in]>Make no intervention action unless the serf actually asks for aid. If your brother tries to make a scene you will insist that he relents, as he owes you. Most others will have no idea what you mean, but the Green Knight will. [Idealist]
>>4110710>(1) Fair words and common sense>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.'' [Write in]>(2) Should words fail to convince either Sir Sinclair or the Green Knight you will…>Duel Sir Sinclair yourself, you cannot allow your brother to risk his life in some foolishness after getting him out of the forest alive. Whether you take issue with Sinclair’s harshness or not is besides the point. [Haughty]
>>4110710(1) Fair words and common sense>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.'' [Write in](2) Should words fail to convince either Sir Sinclair or the Green Knight you will…>Duel Sir Sinclair yourself, you cannot allow your brother to risk his life in some foolishness after getting him out of the forest alive. Whether you take issue with Sinclair’s harshness or not is besides the point. [Haughty]
>>4110710>>"However good sir, if he is to pass by your judgement, I beg you allow him a final blessing and confession as befits any condemned's last rites. I'm sure the priests traveling with us will be happy to perform them." [Write in] + [Haughty>>Make no intervention action unless the serf actually asks for aid.Should have just let him hang.>>4108595this is me.
>>4110710>>4110710(1) Fair words and common sense>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.'' [Write in](2) Should words fail to convince either Sir Sinclair or the Green Knight you will…>Duel Sir Sinclair yourself, you cannot allow your brother to risk his life in some foolishness after getting him out of the forest alive. Whether you take issue with Sinclair’s harshness or not is besides the point. [Haughty]>Stand in as your brother’s second in the duel against Sir Sinclair. He is the one who has taken issue, even if combat against a fellow blademaster is ill-advised. Perhaps your brother might learn a lesson.[Hearty]
>>41107101)>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escape....2)>Make no intervention action unless the serf actually asks for aid. If your brother tries to make a scene you will insist that he relents, as he owes you. Most others will have no idea what you mean, but the Green Knight will. [Idealist]
>>4110710(1) Fair words and common sense>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.'' [Write in]No reason to not to try.(2) Should words fail to convince either Sir Sinclair or the Green Knight you will…>Duel Sir Sinclair yourself, you cannot allow your brother to risk his life in some foolishness after getting him out of the forest alive. Whether you take issue with Sinclair’s harshness or not is besides the point. [Haughty]>Stand in as your brother’s second in the duel against Sir Sinclair. He is the one who has taken issue, even if combat against a fellow blademaster is ill-advised. Perhaps your brother might learn a lesson.[Hearty]
>>41107101>Write-in2>HaughtyDamien has that fae-bonded sword with fae runes carved into it, right? We should ask him to let us borrow it.
>>4110784> No reason to not to try.Except for making ANOTHER enemy in Fallavon and ruining our courtship of the Maid Sinclair..Then again, Lady Rabe is objectively the better girl so you know. Silver linings.Surprised nobody wanted to involve that social link with the Maid Sinclair here.
>>4110710(1)> “You are the law here, good knight. No one is disputing that. Please excuse my companion’s passionate outburst.” The law is the law, even when the law is mete out harshly. Your brother knows nothing of the harsh measures necessary to maintain order out here. [Haughty] (2)>Stand in as your brother’s second in the duel against Sir Sinclair. He is the one who has taken issue, even if combat against a fellow blademaster is ill-advised. Perhaps your brother might learn a lesson.[Hearty]and that lesson is that he needs to become more stronger >give him temporarily the bear necklace for the fuel the bear will give him the strength
>>4110710>>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.'' [Write in]>>Stand in as your brother’s second in the duel against Sir Sinclair. He is the one who has taken issue, even if combat against a fellow blademaster is ill-advised. Perhaps your brother might learn a lesson.[Hearty]
>>4110803>give him temporarily the bear necklace for the fuel the bear will give him the strengthGood plan if it comes to blows.
>>4110710>>"However good sir, if he is to pass by your judgement, I beg you allow him a final blessing and confession as befits any condemned's last rites. I'm sure the priests traveling with us will be happy to perform them." [Write in] + [Haughty] You side with Sir Sinclair and attempt to convince your brother to accept last rites and confession as mercy enough.>>Stand in as your brother’s second in the duel against Sir Sinclair. He is the one who has taken issue, even if combat against a fellow blademaster is ill-advised. Perhaps your brother might learn a lesson.[Hearty]
>>4110836Backing.
>>4110837>>4110842wot
>>4110837>>4110842Is this the most obvious samefagging in the world or do you guys just not know how to vote?
>>4110918I'm sure they know that Forgotten wont take 1 ID posts votes. Might be more taking the piss that I just copy pasted the last vote here.
>>4110802>courting lady rabeYou aren't supposed to tell them the plan.
>>4110969It's more making the best of a bad situation if the vote to use French diplomacy passes.
>>4110710>>4110803changing the first choise to; just that>"However good sir, if he is to pass by your judgement, I beg you allow him a final blessing and confession as befits any condemned's last rites. I'm sure the priests traveling with us will be happy to perform them." [Write in] + [Haughty]
>>4110710(1)>“The Green Knight speaks true. This is not justice.” There is a difference between the law and justice. You don’t want to challenge the skilled Sir Sinclair to prove the point. But you will if you have to, better you than your peacock brother at any rate. [Idealist](2) Should words fail to convince either Sir Sinclair or the Green Knight you will…>Duel Sir Sinclair yourself, you cannot allow your brother to risk his life in some foolishness after getting him out of the forest alive. Whether you take issue with Sinclair’s harshness or not is besides the point. [Haughty]
>>4110710However good sir, if he is to pass by your judgement, I beg you allow him a final blessing and confession as befits any condemned's last rites. I'm sure the priests traveling with us will be happy to perform them." [Write in] + [Haughty] >Stand in as your brother’s second in the duel against Sir Sinclair. He is the one who has taken issue, even if combat against a fellow blademaster is ill-advised. Perhaps your brother might learn a lesson.[Hearty]>>4110142This is me
>>4110710>"However good sir, if he is to pass by your judgement, I beg you allow him a final blessing and confession as befits any condemned's last rites. I'm sure the priests traveling with us will be happy to perform them." [Write in] + [Haughty] You side with Sir Sinclair and attempt to convince your brother to accept last rites and confession as mercy enough.>Stand in as your brother’s second in the duel against Sir Sinclair. He is the one who has taken issue, even if combat against a fellow blademaster is ill-advised. Perhaps your brother might learn a lesson.[Hearty]
>>41107101)>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.'' [Write in] 2)>Stand in as your brother’s second in the duel against Sir Sinclair. He is the one who has taken issue, even if combat against a fellow blademaster is ill-advised. Perhaps your brother might learn a lesson.[Hearty]
>>4110710>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.'' [Write in]>Duel Sir Sinclair yourself, you cannot allow your brother to risk his life in some foolishness after getting him out of the forest alive. Whether you take issue with Sinclair’s harshness or not is besides the point. [Haughty]
Discounting low-count IDs without links. A failure to convince Sir Jean Sinclair will require a further roll to ensure the Green Knight doesn’t insist on a trial by combat. FYI, even with the bear totem and fae blade Damien stands a poor chance against a skilled opponent like Sir Sinclair. While the write-in isn’t bad per se, I do think it misreads the target of the persuaion. House Sinclair, as it has been said before, rules this fief of West Fallavon with sharp blade and iron fist. As such, no bonus shall be awarded but no negatives will be inflicted either. 1)>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.'' [Write in]2)>Stand in as your brother’s second in the duel against Sir Sinclair. He is the one who has taken issue, even if combat against a fellow blademaster is ill-advised. Perhaps your brother might learn a lesson.[Hearty]------------------------------------------------------------------Persuade Roll>Unreasonable Request / Equal Social Standing 30DC> Write-in +0>Wealth +0 (Penury)>Attire +0 (Penury)>Sir Sinclair Military Tabard -5DC, +1 Adverse Re-Roll> 25DC0 = Sir Jean Sinclair is personally affronted by the presumption in your ‘holier than thou’ lecture. He goads the Green Knight into stopping him, if he has the courage to try. (Duel inevitable) 1 = Sir Jean Sinclair discards your unwelcome advice out of hand, but at least you don’t seem to have personally offended him. There will be no clemency without intervention. (Duel hard to avoid)2 = Sir Jean Sinclair is unmoved by your arguments, but he does take the time to patiently explain his position and the reasons for his insistence in carrying out the decreed sentence. (Duel moderately avoidable)3 = Sir Jean Sinclair thinks you must be a soft lot in Romaine, but a bit of clemency for one measly peasant is a small concession at the request of a fellow warrior who has proven himself. He also has news for you regarding the Rabes. (Duel avoided)3 rolls of 1d100. Your opponent has 1 re-roll.Let calm heads prevail
Rolled 40 (1d100)>>4111771
Rolled 87 (1d100)>>4111771
Rolled 11 (1d100)>>4111771
>>4111776Nice. Does the double affect anything here? If I remember right doubles can't be re-rolled.
Hahaha.No more red haired waifu then.
>>4111776A double, so I can't use the re-roll. 1 success it is. I'll be back in an hour with a roll to convince your brother, new rollers etc.
and we worked so hard to make sure the powers that be were not going to do our brother harm and now this.
>>4110182told ya
>>4111779Oh well. It was good to try and no harm came out of it.>>4111778No we got 1 success>1 = Sir Jean Sinclair discards your unwelcome advice out of hand, but at least you don’t seem to have personally offended him. There will be no clemency without intervention. (Duel hard to avoid)He doesn't accept the appeal but it doesn't affect our relations with him or house Sinclair.
>>4111771Man no wonder the Bluejays are strongest at these lands when you have retards like the Sinclair Sheriff of Nottingham here. Hanging won't deter mistreated serfs from running away.
If the peasant explicitely asks for help at one point, though, we have to intervene personally in order not to break our vow.
>>4111788Yeah it was still worth trying and the fail result wasn't bad. Too bad that logic is ineffective against Jean Sinclair though.
>>4111788If our brother gets injured or even dies because we didn't intercede what then?
>>4111807I voted to duel him ourselves in case the appeal didn't succeed.
Who could have possibly foreseen this turn of events?
>>4111772>>4111775>>4111776Good try lads. No success but no bad consequences either.
>>4111772>>4111775>>4111776>1 Success>Sir Jean Sinclair discards your unwelcome advice out of hand, but at least you don’t seem to have personally offended him. There will be no clemency without intervention. (Duel hard to avoid)As you are standing in as his second, this roll will also reflect how he approaches the duel itself, should it happen. Persuade Roll>Unreasonable Request / Lower Social Standing 20DC>Wealth +0 (Penury)>Attire +0 (Penury)>Companion-for-Life +20DC, +1 Re-Roll > 40DCDouble Fail = A personal feud with Sinclair.0 = Your appeal to Damien’s sense of reason achieves little. In his eyes, Sir Sinclair is the epitome of everything wrong with the feudal system. He will fight, and possibly not yield even when seriously outmatched.1 = Damien is not deterred from insisting on a trial by combat. But he at least will not fight to the death and put all your efforts in keeping him safe to naught.2 = Damien listens to you. He believes that you are allowing a flagrant injustice to be committed and he may hold it against you for some time. But he relents.3 = Calmer heads prevail. Damien understands your position, and he remembers that he is indebted to you. He has nothing nice to say about the brutal Sinclair, but none of that animosity is directed at you.Double Pass = Sound advice for the duel.3 rolls of 1d100. You have 1 Re-Roll. NEW ROLLERS PLEASE.Stop your brother before he does something stupid.
>>4111809no one obviously who could have thought that talking with words a knight JUDGE (judge dredd) was futile I AM THE LAW I don't give a shit about your words word's words >>4110196
Rolled 39 (1d100)>>4111811ere we go
Rolled 88 (1d100)>>4111811don't get kill please
Rolled 35 (1d100)>>4111808my point was less an attack and more that the relations are going to be fucked either way if the duel breaks out.>>4111811ROLLAN
Rolled 56 (1d100)>>4111811
>>4111814>Double Fail = A personal feud with Sinclair.Ayup.There we go.
>>4111814>Double failwew lad
>>4111814talk shit get hit sheeeet
I told you this will blow up in our face. Maybe you'll learn that words words write-ins don't always work, anons
>>4111812>>4111814Once again, WHO COULD HAVE POSSIBLY FORESEEN THIS?Good effort, lad.Should have just let him hang.
>>4111822This has nothing to do with the write-in though. This is because we chose to let Damien with hearty instead of dueling him ourselves.
>Pissed of the Marquis>Pissed of Vancewell >Pissed off Bluejays>Pissed off SinclairsMan fucking Fallavon
>>4111827I know rightFuck. The only folks we have not pissed off are the fucking FAE.
>>4111827fuck lets become buds with the dragon
Doesn't this mean DAMIEN has a feud with Sinclair though?
>>4111831Does it matter? If Damien has a feud with the Sinclairs, then any Andrei getting chummy with them will be frowned upon, at the least.
Well so much for this>>4109937I guess Emile Ian a righteous man and is just a hypocrite who doesn't practice what he preaches. Why the fuck did we roll to convince Damien out of the duel when hearty explicitly says we let him duel anyway?
>>4111828even then damn near anything that has anyplace in their world is gonna try and kill us on a bad day at least if not every other day.>>4111829>Go to Carthaggi >Piss off the Dragon before we even step foot in the city.
>>4111811Uuh, I don't really understand this roll. Why would we roll to stop Damien from duelling while we explicitely voted to stand besides him for a duel against Sinclair ? Makes no sense. We voted to support Damien in this duel.
>>4111840Forgotten sticked convincing Damien out of the duel in the write-in for no reason. Neither the write-in nor the two anons who came up with it stated they want to persuade Damien if the appeal failed.
>>4111843Yup, I think Forgotten made a mistake here.
>>4111842>>4111843>>4111846It's implied in the post>(2) Should words fail to convince either Sir Sinclair or the Green Knight you will…>or the Green Knight
>>4111811Wait why the fuck did we roll for this shit? Neither the writein nor hearty entail trying to stop Damien. Hearty literally says stand with your brother as his second. The choices that wanted to stop Damien didn't win.
>>4111848That's something Forgotten himself made up. No where in the write-in does it say stop Damien.
>>4111850>>4111848>>4111846>>4111843>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.'' [Write in] You try not blatantly challenge Sir Sinclair’s authority, but you appeal to him as the authority for mercy. If he refuses you will attempt convince your brother to stand down.I made it perfectly clear in the recast with spoiler explanations. >>4110710
>2 Success>Damien listens to you. He believes that you are allowing a flagrant injustice to be committed and he may hold it against you for some time. But he relents.>Double Fail>Damien Andrei and Jean Sinclair have an ongoing rivalry with one another, and not a friendly one.“Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes.” You do your level best to keep your tone as respectful as possible, but you can see that your plea is falling on deaf ears. “Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.''“I’m in no mood for a lecture, Sir Andrei. Sir Jean Sinclair scoffs, though he sounds bored rather than insulted as he waves to his men-at-arms standing by. “String the criminal up. And not too fast either, we wouldn’t want to snap his neck.” “You pit-damned barbarian…” The Green Knight growls, edging his steed forwards.“What did you say?” The Fallavon knight’s expression is entirely changed, a cool lethal attention on this mystery knight.[1/2]
[2/2]“Don’t do this, brother.” You hiss softly, grabbing the Green Knight’s forearm. Louder you say. “This is not our land, not our customs. Do not seek a quarrel over an issue that does not concern us.”“You’re just going to let them hang the poor man?” Damien hisses back, plucking his arm from your clutch. “Like a Cathagi Master would a runaway slave?” “Brother, please.” You whisper in a low voice, soft enough for the others not to hear. “My mission is to see you safely home. Don’t make that more difficult than it has to be.”Damien tenses, his hands curling into fists. Then they relax. His head sinks, a defeated nod. “Damn you, Em. Damn it all.”The Green Knight turns his mount away, seeking to be alone for now. The runaway serf, perhaps seeing his last chance at salvation snatched away begins sobbing uncontrollably as the Sinclair men-at-arms tie his hand and droop the noose over his neck. “No, please! You can’t let them do this! Almighty have mercy, Sirs, for pity’s sake! Help me!”===================================>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]>“Fine. Fine! Reginae wept, go have your duel Green Knight. Just don’t get yourself killed.” A trial by combat is a rustic version of justice, but it is better than no trial at all. And at least your brother won’t endanger himself. Too much. [Hearty] >“Sir Sinclair, if you would indulge me. Allow our priest to speak a few words over the poor man.” The man’s life is forfeit, as dictated by law. He is a condemned criminal and the code was not meant to apply to such. But perhaps his soul can still be saved. [Idealist]
>>4111859>>“Sir Sinclair, if you would indulge me. Allow our priest to speak a few words over the poor man.” The man’s life is forfeit, as dictated by law. He is a condemned criminal and the code was not meant to apply to such. But perhaps his soul can still be saved. [Idealist]I want out.I want out of this fucking greenery.
>>4111859>>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK FALLAVON
>>4111852That spoiler is something you added yourself Forgotten. I never wrote in the write-in to stop Damien if it failed.
>>4111859>“Sir Sinclair, if you would indulge me. Allow our priest to speak a few words over the poor man.” The man’s life is forfeit, as dictated by law. He is a condemned criminal and the code was not meant to apply to such. But perhaps his soul can still be saved. [Idealist]
>>4111859>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]
>>4111859>“Fine. Fine! Reginae wept, go have your duel Green Knight. Just don’t get yourself killed.” A trial by combat is a rustic version of justice, but it is better than no trial at all. And at least your brother won’t endanger himself. Too much. [Hearty]a lesson needs to be learn a that's you need to become stronger brother
>>4111859>>“Sir Sinclair, if you would indulge me. Allow our priest to speak a few words over the poor man.” The man’s life is forfeit, as dictated by law. He is a condemned criminal and the code was not meant to apply to such. But perhaps his soul can still be saved. [Idealist]
>>4111859Dont like how haughty is worded but gotta help him now.
>>4111859>Fine. Fine! Reginae wept, go have your duel Green Knight. Just don’t get yourself killed.” A trial by combat is a rustic version of justice, but it is better than no trial at all. And at least your brother won’t endanger himself. Too much. [Hearty]We should honestly send a letter to our parents with Damien
>>4111859>>4111859>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]He has requested our aid now.
>>4111852Oh ok, I had not seen the spoiler. It wasn't something specified in the write-in that we voted for, though. So yeah, I'm still kinda "meh" about this roll. Doesn't really reflect our decision in my opinion but heh, that's ok, never mind.
>>4111871Ahh piss the Knight code is in effect
>>4111859>>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]Well, now that the peasant asked for help directly, things are changed. I initially supported the decision to let Damien duel Sinclair but now we have to intervene since it is part our vow to help anyone who's asking for it.
>>4111859>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]>His Might Upholds The Weak+Staggering Blows: Opponent's suffer additional Injury(-5DC) with every point damage.*You may refuse no call for aid, honestly asked for.
>>4111875Though, I don't want to kill Sinclair. Let's not be too lethal in our strikes. We embody the shield of justice, not the executioner's blade.
>>4111877If he goes for the kill I don't think that'll be an option.
>>4111859>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]>“No, please! You can’t let them do this! Almighty have mercy, Sirs, for pity’s sake! Help me!”Guys going with one of the other two choices means breaking our knight's code vow.
>>4111875>He is a condemned criminal and the code was not meant to apply to suchwell.....a criminal for a stupid reason but still
4gotten, does the knight's code apply for condemned prisoners?
>>4111875>>4111876I believe that should come with caveats. This is a legal punishment which is happening. Does this mean that if a murderer who was going to be executed cried for help and we have to intervene against guards?If it actually applied, forgotten would have mentioned. Just like he did right at the start against sir vancewell. Where he said we could outright attack him since he technically was not unarmed.
>>4111881Nowhere in the code is it stated that we're forbidden to help a criminal. In my opinion, it implies that it is sometimes justified for a knight to stand against the law if the law is unfair. Of course, this notion is highly subjective and as such, one knight could think that a law is perfectly fair while another would think it is unfair. That's up to our own morality. A knight helping a so-called "criminal" because he genuinely thinks that the law condemning him is morally wrong does not breaks his code, in my opinion.
>>4111883>Does this mean that if a murderer who was going to be executed cried for help and we have to intervene against guards?Due to the fact their is not a metric for what is an appropriate response for our knightly vow help could simply be making the punishment as painless as possible.but due to the Idealism Emille posseses I'd say a more wholesale effort for such a individual would be more appropriate.
>>4111862Fair. I suppose I could have reworded the second choice to reflect the options of duel/convince-not-to-duel more clearly.But I have done nothing underhanded here.
we assume he is innocent we think him no criminal just as we cannot tell a lie if we are personally convinced of a false statement so too we can not refuse a call to aid if we think the peasant innocent
>>4111859>>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]
>>4111886>>4111883>>4111882As you say, it is highly subjective.
>>4111859>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]Time to borrow our brother's fae bonded blade with fae runes.
>>4111889But we clearly do not see him as innocent. Emile still has the haughty trait and while he might view the punishment as excessive, he has already come across in the story posts as not questioning his guilt. Only the severity of the punishment.
>>4111894yeah your right switching too idealist>>4111890>“Sir Sinclair, if you would indulge me. Allow our priest to speak a few words over the poor man.” The man’s life is forfeit, as dictated by law. He is a condemned criminal and the code was not meant to apply to such. But perhaps his soul can still be saved. [Idealist]
>>4111859>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]Letting Damien and him duel now would be a terrible idea as they now have a personal feud.
>>4111886Just join the Jays already. The Serf knew the penalties for fleeing, and imthe death of one now could prevent the deaths of many later who think they too can get special treatment.
>>4111894There is quite a difference between being Haughty and thinking that a peasant, whose only crime is an attempt to flee a country because he can't survive anymore due to taxes or anything else, deserves to die a long and painful death (death by hanging, if your neck is not broken instantly, is an atrocious agony that can last more than 10 minutes).That's not being Haughty. But perhaps you want to roleplay Jeoffrey Lannister, although that roleplay would be completely incoherent due to our previous actions with the Bluejays or the way we save beastfolks (which should be way worst than helping a poor peasant about to die in a horrible way for such a trivial reason).
>>4111904>Not wanting a peasant to die a horrible death because he broke a totally unfair law.>"Just join the Bluejays"Yeah, right, it seems I'm not talking to the brightest fellow here.
>>4111905I think your applying modern morality and freedom of travel as a right that doesn't apply here.The serf has broken his fealty to his lord, it's not just about his life. We're able to at least allow him to die with his soul unburdened.
>>4111881>>4111882>>4111883The difference between aiding a convicted murderer and this is the justice of the law. He's a criminal runaway serf that is going to be hanged slowly because he tried to run away from cruel mistreatment. That is completely unjust. The Law of Adam didn't see the law of the Cathagi as just. Interfering with the conviction of a clearly guilty and convicted malicious murderer would be a completely different matter. The requirement to answer the call for aid is that it must be honestly asked for. A convicted murderer won't honestly ask for it.>>4111886This.>>4111894Emile is haughty but definitely not to the point he'd consider hanging a runaway serf to be just let alone care about whether he's innocent of the innocuous crime. Don't forget that Emile saved that peasant kid from being mutilated by those noble kids at Aubrey.>>4111887>appropriate response for our knightly vow help could simply be making the punishment as painless as possible.That would be untrue in this case. His call for aid is to save him. He's not calling for aid to make the punishment as painless as possible. That would be the worst attempt to circumvent a vow and pretending you didn't break it thus far.
>>4111908He requested our aid to save him. He didn't request aid to let him have a final confession before they hang him slowly. Refusing would be a clear breaking of our vow.
>>4111904>and imthe death of one now could prevent the deaths of many later who think they too can get special treatment.This will absolutely not prevent the death of more later. The Sinclairs clearly treat their serfs cruelly and harshly. Many more will try to escape to the lands of other lords or die in the attempt. Hanging one here won't deter them from it.
>>4111888Forgotten can I ask what did you mean by stating that Damien and Jean have a personal feud now? Damien is the Green Knight right now. Jean doesn't know who he is. Does it mean that Jean has a personal feud with the Green Knight and Damien has a personal feud with Jean?
>>4111909>Emile is haughty but definitely not to the point he'd consider hanging a runaway serf to be just let alone care about whether he's innocent of the innocuous crime. Don't forget that Emile saved that peasant kid from being mutilated by those noble kids at Aubrey.Exactly. This only should be enough to justify the decision to help the serf, or else we'd play a completely incoherent character who's roleplay change every day. If you want to play the archetype of Lawful Neutral knight who applies the law blindly without any regard for morality, then perhaps you skipped 90% of our previous decisions in the quest because we did the exact opposite most of the time.
>>4111906That's literally the reasoning of the Bluejays. The law isn't necessarily "unfair", Sir Sinclair has the right to enact the letter of the law. If Serfs are allowed to flee en mass, then surrounding countys will be burdened with refugees whilst the county they fled falls apart.Should the serfs in surrounding counties then flee in turn? Should the burden of enacting justice fall upon the surrounding lords and force them to put the serfs to the sword? What if they gather and form a band of rebels? If your argument is that the law itself is unjust, then yeah you might as well join the Jays because you're undermining feudalismAlso> goes right to insultsClassy.
>>4111911Forgotten specifically said it was open to interpretation, so no it wouldn't consist of breaking our vow.You might want to believe it, but Word of God says otherwise.>>4111916Hey, I'm not the one you have to convince, I grew up in a Western nation. It's the Courts of Canton. Good luck with that, expect more of how Sir Sinclair responded.
>>4111909I was more addressing the hypothetical in the above post but his word for word plea was for help there was no specific wording as to how that should manifest, you are correct that the spirit of the plea is to help him from dying but he's actual plea for his life is not actually there and to plea with ''You can’t let them do this! Allmighty have mercy'' can be construed as either a quick death or full clemency with us standing as his defendant.weither Emille chooses to actually address the technical nature surrounding his pleas or to do as I think he should and address the spirit of his pleas is another thing entirely
>>4111921What you're doing isn't interpretation but mental gymnastics. The vow is thus:>*You may refuse no call for aid, honestly asked for.He called for aid to SAVE him. > “No, please! You can’t let them do this! Almighty have mercy, Sirs, for pity’s sake! Help me!”There is absolutely no way you can interpret this as him not wanting to be saved and instead just wants to confession or a painless death. Not aiding him would be a clear breaking of the vow. You're trying to break it and pretend at the same time that it won't be breaking the vow.>Hey, I'm not the one you have to convince, I grew up in a Western nation. It's the Courts of Canton. Good luck with that, expect more of how Sir Sinclair responded.Forgotten has already stated that the Sinclair's way of meting out the law is draconian even by the standards of Fallavon. The Courts of Canton are absolutely not like this. Not even the rest of Fallavon is this draconian.
Mental gymnastics. The serf had it coming and he's getting it
>>4111916>Many more will try to escape to the lands of other lords oh naive child I'm pretty sure they just join the bluejay at this point you know, they peasants probably think everyone is like them and obviously the Sinclair is trying to execute him to avoid more people joining them but those fools are literally doing the opposite obviously assuming I am correct
>>4111926All criminals beg to be saved from the consequences of their actions.Forgotten outright said it was open to interpretation if the oath applied, so stop claiming it has to be followed even for criminals.
>>4111935I was trying to explain the ethical reasoning behind serf laws, but yeah specifically in Fallavon it's another bow in the woods and the lives the runaway takes after turning to banditry would be on our hands.
>>4111936Don't make shit up please, you mental gymnast. No where did Forgotten say it's ''open to interpretation''. He said that it's highly subjective. That doesn't mean refusing to aid him right after he called us to save him won't be breaking the vow. He is calling for aid. He isn't calling for a few more words before they hang him.>>4111935My point still stands whether they flee to other lands or to the Bluejays. This won't deter more Sinclair serfs from escaping. The Sinclairs are troglodytes and no one should be surprised that some of their serfs become Bluejays.
>>4111891>>4111942Sorry, it was that "it is highly subjective".Same meaning. You can project your mental gymnastics on others all you want, but your argument is bad and you should feel bad about it.> The Sinclairs are troglodytes and no one should be surprised that some of their serfs become Bluejays.Wow. Goin' full Bluejay. Called it.
>>4111942Also> Thinks saving a mans life is worth more than saving his soul.Just what I would expect from a Bluejay. Probably refuses to even admit his sins, much less confess them.
>>4111942>The Sinclairs are troglodytes and no one should be surprised that some of their serfs become BluejaysThat is a lot of assumptions from just one scene, it's a shame we didn't get Sinclair's explanation from 2 passes
>>4111920>That's literally the reasoning of the Bluejays.No, it's the reasoning of Adam and Cain. They weren't legalistic imbeciles who bowed down to the unjust laws of the Cathagi and allowed the slaves and their mother to be tormented. Emile and literally every other Cantonian noble are the descendant of Cathagi runaway slaves who joined Adam and Cain in their departure to Canton.>>4111946I don't care about what you think on my argument, you mental gymnast. You are absolutely delusional if you think refusing to aid him and instead giving him just a confession before hanging him means that we have kept to the vow. He is requesting aid to save his life and refusing to aid him means we didn't follow on it and just tried to shirk it.>>4111947Saving his soul my ass. You don't want to save his soul and don't give a flying fuck about what happens to him. You just don't want to save him. Be honest about it.>>4111951He already explained it to us. He's hanging him because he's a runaway serf and thinks it will deter the rest of their mistreated serfs from fleeing. He's also a petty vicious cunt who ordered his men to make the hanging of the serf slow and painful just to spite Damien. Fuck him.
>>4111956>He's also a petty vicious cunt who ordered his men to make the hanging of the serf slow and painful just to spite Damien. Fuck him.Yeah, that was dishonourable and completely uncalled for. What a cretin. I hope Damien BTFOs him in the Spring Tournament.
>>4111962>Damien stands a poor chance against a skilled opponent like Sir Sinclairheh
>>4111859>>“Sir Sinclair, if you would indulge me. Allow our priest to speak a few words over the poor man.” The man’s life is forfeit, as dictated by law. He is a condemned criminal and the code was not meant to apply to such. But perhaps his soul can still be saved. [Idealist]he is a criminal ish
>>4111972Which doesn't make sense to me since Damien himself is a great warrior from what we saw at the ruins. Having blademaster should give an advantage but not to the point where you're the favored one. Marquis Caspian Fallavon rekt the twat at Lord Duncan's Tourney so he definitely should be bellow his level at least. Anyway there's still plenty of time for Damien to improve his skills and get better equipment.
>>4111976>Damian has 15 DC>Sinclair has 22 DC as a companion he probably has more thing hidden>comparing the fucking 45 DC of Caspian fallavon with anythingeveryone can lost again him my frend
>>4111956> You mental gymnastAbout all the argument you can come up with. It's funny, I wrote in about letting him confess because even criminals are granted the right for redemption.But you seem to be unable to discern justice from wanting to be a big naive hero and damn the laws or what they represent because you don't have the guts to follow through.It's funny that you try to work Adam and Caine into it, while disparaging that they fought for the dignity of mens souls and killed plenty of men. Also ignoring that they died and left so the Regina was the one who set up the system. Also that the Church is present in Fallavon, and doesn't prevent serfdom. So it's not really appropriate to try and use them to argue against it.So keep calling me names and freaking out, just admit you don't actually care about Justice and don't have the stones to follow through even when it requires a firm hand.Honestly this could have gone a lot better if the write-in hadn't so badly misread the situation. I suspect Forgotten felt bad about the 25DC.We could intervene to have the man get a clean death with a clean soul, or we could faff about and metaphorically wank off about how superior we are that we are above the law.Deciding that his Oath applies to a convicted and guilty criminal, just like it did with those Beastmen we hung ourselves and defended hanging them to Craven, fits in perfectly with Haughty and not Idealistic.But giving the criminal confession is idealistic. Interesting how you're accusing me of not caring about the serf, but you haven't even thought about what happens after we leave. What are we going to do, kidnap the serf? I'm sure he'll have a fantastic time once we're gone.
>>4111976>Go through fuckthatshit.avi to save our Brother from being strung up by the Queensmen>he gets killed because he decides to pick a fight with a ruthless cunt of a knight instead of us interceding on his behalf the utility of our life in exchange for the future of our houses heir aside we went through to much bullshit to have him risk his life in some roadside duel.
>>4111859Good morning and . . . Huh. Here we are then.>“Fine. Fine! Reginae wept, go have your duel Green Knight. Just don’t get yourself killed.” A trial by combat is a rustic version of justice, but it is better than no trial at all. And at least your brother won’t endanger himself. Too much. [Hearty] A loss will be good for our brother's high estimation of himself.When he loses, can we still ask for the serf to be allowed to confess?
>>4111956> MFW the idealist option is the only one that mentions giving a damn about the serf, and it lets him hang.
>>4111986There is no justice here, you mental gymnast. Jean Sinclair is a powertripping faggot who thinks he can terrorize his house's serfs into not fleeing by making an example of one of them. He clearly doesn't give even a tiny atom of a damn about justice. What the retard doesn't understand is that their mistreated serfs having nothing to lose. They won't stop fleeing to other lands or joining Bluejays till start treating them decently.>It's funny that you try to work Adam and Caine into it, while disparaging that they fought for the dignity of mens souls and killed plenty of men. Also ignoring that they died and left so the Regina was the one who set up the system. Also that the Church is present in Fallavon, and doesn't prevent serfdom. So it's not really appropriate to try and use them to argue against it.Is this supposed to make my point less valid or something? The Church isn't Salve Regina, Adam, or Cain. They fought for the dignity of their fellow slaves. Cain sure as shit didn't give a damn about the dignity of human slavers from what we read about him. Point still stands that they weren't legalistic retards and knew that unjust laws must be opposed. Also, no where is it ever stated that Slave Regina had anything to do with setting up the system. That is 100% something you pulled out of your hole.>Honestly this could have gone a lot better if the write-in hadn't so badly misread the situation. I suspect Forgotten felt bad about the 25DC.This situation has nothing to do with the write-in. No where was it written or stated by me or the other anon that we should stop Damien if the appeal failed. That is something he added himself.>We could intervene to have the man get a clean death with a clean soul, or we could faff about and metaphorically wank off about how superior we are that we are above the law.What a pure strawman. And you're still trying to come up with mental gymnastics on how refusing to aid him right after he requested aid won't break a vow that states you can't refuse aid so as long as it's honestly asked for. You don't give a toss about his soul. You just don't want to save him and at the same time conveniently want to keep the vow without saving him.>Deciding that his Oath applies to a convicted and guilty criminal, just like it did with those Beastmen we hung ourselves and defended hanging them to Craven, fits in perfectly with Haughty and not Idealistic.Bullshit. Hanging warriors who refused his offer of quarter isn't comparable with hanging a runaway serf escaping harsh mistreatment. You're disingenuous to your core.>Interesting how you're accusing me of not caring about the serf, but you haven't even thought about what happens after we leave. What are we going to do, kidnap the serf? I'm sure he'll have a fantastic time once we're gone.We have him join the convoy with the rest of the pilgrims. The Sisters and Sister Ignatius can take care of him. He can become a monk after the pilgrimage is over.
Yeah, that's absolute nonsense. It's just refusal to aid him and breaking the vow. Complete pathetic attempt to shirk the vow and pretend you didn't break it. If anyone's soul needs saving, it's that cunt Jean Sinclair..
>>4111859>>[Idealist]I won't say the serf has it coming to him, but he has shown no loyalty to his liege, no strength or cleverness in order to break free or evade capture, and no backbone as he pleads for his life from the peers of those who he wishes to escape.He should be regarded as an untrustworthy sort, but at least granted a modicum of human decency.
>>4111859>“Sir Sinclair, if you would indulge me. Allow our priest to speak a few words over the poor man.” The man’s life is forfeit, as dictated by law. He is a condemned criminal and the code was not meant to apply to such. But perhaps his soul can still be saved. [Idealist]Aside from all the shitflinging going here, Im going to go with the option that tries to maintain a consistent character. The write-in makes it kind of awkward, since we just said we're not questioning his authority, but as soon as he says he doesnt care about our suggestion, we want to question his authority? Wouldn't that unironically break our vow again? Considering Emile did choose to mercy kill the old man, hes not heartless, so idealist makes sense in terms of character.
>>41119857 DC difference isn't a big margin.
>>4112023The difference is that the serf just asked us for aid. Actually aiding him instead of breaking our vow is in-character. Emile already helped that peasant kid against the noble boys. The serf isn't getting a mercy kill. He's going to be hanged slowly and painfully.
>>4109838>scabbed limbsWhat does that mean? English isn't my first language but dictionary tells me its after effect of wounds so was he wounded, beaten?
>>4112029Forgotten already said our vow is subjective in this case, If an enemy asked our aid because he wants to win the fight we obviously dont have to help them. Ditto for a convicted rapist or something. If we wanted to challenge the original conviction then we shouldnt have gone with the write in that says its literally not challenging the conviction.
>>4112037Not beaten, just rough labour without gloves for a lifetime.Little cuts and scratches add up quickly.
>>4112025It's more than enough to kill a Kid.
>>4111859>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]Fucking peasants and fucking Sir Sinclair, dealing with fae and beastmen was easier and more clear cut than this.
>>4112037It means his skin has healed over 'something'. Broken blisters, bruised knees, beatings, cuts, scrapes, etc. Basically he looks like he's been working a field all his life, because he has. Bludgeoning optional, not required.
>>4112022No point in being ''loyal'' to a cruel liege who has no strength, cleverness, and is only good for hanging his runaway serfs. Willing obedience always beats forced obedience.>Trying to escape harsh serfdom and execution means you're untrustworthy.What retarded bullshit. ''If you attempt to escape oppression, then you're untrustworthy''. At least try to come up with better justifications.>>4112039Read the vow.>You may refuse no call for aid, honestly asked for.An enemy asking for aid during battle to win fight isn't aid honestly asked for. What part of this do you not understand? Honestly at this are vows are worthless as we'll just try to shirk them whenever they become inconvenient. They're just free mechanic bonuses.
>>4112049You insult people a lot. Have you considered letting the conversation go, instead of fighting with a bunch of people? It's just a game.
>>4112049ok so if a child murderer is about to be executed but asks us for help earnestly, do we have to help him? not saying its equivalent to this case, but wheres the limit? what does "honestly asked for" mean? just that they dont have bad intentions for us? what if someone was trying to harm someone else and asks us? what if they ask us to steal back some family heirloom that was rightfully theirs? what if the way they want us to help them is different from whats actually 'good' for them? Its just not as simple as you're making it. Honestly I agree that we shouldve helped the peasant, but we explicitly voted to not interfere. The vow shouldnt make a difference in this case, so the choice is already made. I'd rather this quest not turn into a tug of war and make Emile bipolar, so even though I dont really like the decision, I'm trying to be consistent, everyone understand what the write in said when they voted for it. Changing our minds now is trying to have our cake and eating it too.
>>4112058You're trying to push the ''it's subjective'' excuse with illogical scenarios and whatabouttism. They must have a good intention to save them. A child murderer will have bad intentions. In this case, you can push subjectivity till infinity, but it still won't change that you're refusing to aid him even though he has a good intention which is literally what the vow demands. He doesn't want a confession and pretending that a confession is ''aid'' is pathetic not to mention dishonest.
>>4112058The consistency in this case is to help the serf.We already did it in previously + help beastfolks. Consistent roleplay means we have to help the serf here or else the character of Emile makes no sense at all. Save beastfolks, considered by many as the enemy of mankind, but let a peasant, whose only crime is to have tried to flee his country, be executed in the most gruesome and painful way ?
If you guys want to play the archetype of the absolute Lawful Neutral knight who applies the law completely blindly, even when it's immoral, I'm fine with it if we play this with our next character after the death of Emile, that would actually be interesting. But that's not how we've played Emile since the beginning, we actually did the complete opposite. Changing in such a drastic way now and let a man die like this before our eyes would be the exact opposite of what's Emile have been for 20 threads.
>>4112070What are good intentions? Also I dont think we're fulfilling our vows with the confession I just think thats what Emile would do.>>4112073If you look at my post history, I literally agree with you. But we already voted on this choice. I dont want other anons overturning my votes later on just because they didnt get what they want initially, so I'll stay consistent with what we already decided to do. If emile was going to help out the peasant, we shouldnt have voted for the write in that says, "hey I'm not going to interfere but heres my advice". Choosing to interfere after he ignores our advice is hypocritical.
>>4112058>I'd rather this quest not turn into a tug of war and make Emile bipolarEmile literally stated this:>“To the just laws, a righteous man must obey. To the unjust laws, a righteous man must defy.”He is either a bipolar or a hypocrite in this case based on your vote. He only practices what he has preaches when it's convenient and is more than willing to shirk or break vows when they're inconvenient.
>>4112080>good intentionsWanting to escape harsh mistreatment and flee to lands ruled by better lords is one. There is no desire to harm anyone or anything in his intention.
>>4112085That seems like your opinion, since it doesnt state that in our vow. Your view is perhaps reasonable, but that doesnt mean that its necessary to view criminals trying to escape punishment as having good intentions>>4112082Who says a lord punishing his subjects is an unjust law? I dont know why I bother to keep repeating myself, but I agree with you, its just that we already voted on the option that makes emile view Sinclairs actions as lawful but harsh. If we wanted to challenge the hanging, we should have said This is not justice. We didn't. So we shouldnt go back on that unless we want our words to not have any meaning.
>>4112091*sinclair is not a lord, but its still within his legal right, so point unchanged
>>4112049He's untrustworthy because he hates his liege but begs for help from another. Doubly so if he has a family and is abandoning them to a man he hates. It is a slimy practice and speaks ill of his character as a whole.Sinclair is not showing itself in a good light, but they are the law. Your intervention here will not change their practices, and some other sod will be strung up in short order.
>Is it legalwithout a closer look at the specific rights a lord or intermediary on there behalf has as bestowed by the Crown yes it is, as a serf tenant has violated the duties to his lord and should under the law face judgement for the dericliction of his duty.>Is it JustNo because by definition Justice is fair treatment associated with moral rightness, while it can be associated with rights or lawfulness its more often associated with moral renderings because a quick and swift judgment for this matter would almost certainly be the.end of this matter to Emille's judgment but without the specifics of the matter its hard to answer with nuance.>Is Sinclair a cunt who's abusing his position for his personal jolliesYes, but us sticking our nose in affairs that are rightly his to pass judgmentnot to be confused with Emille's own sense of what justice is on even if the verdict is not particularly just is not helping things, his particular need to spite any who would seek some sort of leniancy on behalf of the former tenant does little to aid his impression.>Should we help him due to the knightly codeIn the spirit of the vow yes, the technical side as worded specifically by him? also yes but the manner has not been defined and thus can be interpreted somewhat freely within the confines of what constitutes ''help''.In Summary>The matter at hand is as far as can be determined legal but not just >The institution of feudal judgment and justice is failing in upholding its Ideal state due to selfish corruption on the part of the Knight/lord legally rendering judgment, as a knight and noble of the realm it falls to us to correct the system in what capacity we can legally and morally accomplish >Consequentially a man of lesser station will suffer painful immoral death where he at least deserves a quick painless death >He deserves a lesser punishment because the crime commited contains little in the way of aggrieving qualities beyond deserting his duties >As a knight and noble of the realm it falls to us to correct the system in what capacity we can legally and morally accomplish [>We should do so with our full capacity as we can manage
>>4112091It doesn't state that we can refuse aiding a runaway serf either so your point isn't helping you.It doesn't matter if it's a law if it's an unjust law. Jean clearly doesn't give a damn about justice. Get real. You're trying to look for excuses now that I refuted your claim that it makes Emile bipolar. Emile's quote is clear. He's a hypocrite and bipolar if he doesn't practice it.
>>4112097What bullshit mental gymnastics.>he hates his liege but begs for help from another.Nothing untrustworthy about this. His liege is a cunt and asking help from another doesn't entail untrustworthiness. You don't even have straws to grasp.>Doubly so if he has a family and is abandoning them to a man he hates.Baseless assumption you made up. We don't even know if he has a family. Here's a baseless one from me: Jean is a pedophile who raped this man's children. We should lynch him. You're not the only who can come up with bullshit.>Your intervention here will not change their practices, and some other sod will be strung up in short order.Oh fuck off. No where did I state that this will make the Sinclairs stop being retards. This is about keeping Emile's vow which you trying to break and lying that you aren't. What's pathetic is all the bullshit justifications you came up with.>HURR DURR This ma is untrustworthy because h'es trying to escape harsh serfdom and is requesting aid to save his life>HURR DURR this man is leaving his non-existent family behind (this came from your anus).Try harder.
>>4112116>''Your authority isn't questioned, Sir. These are your lands and I understand how the law is enforced in Fallavon. Allow me then to appeal to your authority as the judge for clemency, a hanged man can't make up for his cronies and mistakes. Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir. My lord father, may the Almighty bless him with long life, taught me that the best fortress which a lord can possess is the affection of his people, for willing obedience always beats forced obedience.''heres the write in. I dont think i can convince you that that its not hypocritical to not want to help out a criminal, since we fundamentally disagree. but heres what we voted to do. Ignoring our other vow for a second, if we said that, and now we choose to question his authority in the most direct way possible, are we being hypocritical?
>>4112147>“To the just laws, a righteous man must obey. To the unjust laws, a righteous man must defy.”Here's Emile's own words. Is Emile a bipolar hypocrite? What other excuses do you have? Because you clearly don't give a fuck about being in-character.No where is it stated in the write-in that we were going to let him execute him if the appeal failed. We're were trying to see if he isn't a retard and will see reason.
>>4112166>You try not blatantly challenge Sir Sinclair’s authority, but you appeal to him as the authority for mercy. If he refuses you will attempt convince your brother to stand down.Heres the spoiler section provided by Forgotten, It literally mentions that we will try to prevent our brother from dueling for the sake of the peasant. The implication being we would let him die if our persuasion attempt fails. I'm just sticking with our previous decision. You're trying to make that qoute applicable to literally every scenario and assuming that Emile views this situation as an unjust law, hell even the option to intefere and duel Sinclair literally says that Emile doesnt care one whit about the peasant. Honestly you seem to be a bit more upset about this than I am and at this point you're just ignoring my posts, so I'm just gonna stop responding.
>>4112191That's literally something Forgotten added on his own. He made that shit up. It has no basis on the intention or the results of the write-in. He edited it. What other excuses?
>>4112135>Nothing untrustworthy about thisIt's absolutely untrustworthy. If he was a freeman who became a serf, then he is rejecting the oaths that he took and begging to be saved from his own poor decision. If he was born a serf, then he is leaving his parents, siblings and any progeny behind to be dealt with by a potentially vicious lord.>Baseless assumption you made upHistorically children of serfs are serfs. It's as likely as him being freeman, perhaps moreso because at least a freeman would have some skill enough to be useful to his lord.>Jean is a pedophile who raped this man's childrenInteresting supposition. Did you come up with that before or after your write-in turned out to be a poor coercive choice?>Oh fuck off. No where did I state that this will make the Sinclairs stop being retardsLet me just pick this up for a moment.>>4110078>Besides, what good would hanging him do? The example you'd set here will simply result in more escapees, for they have nothing to lose that would deter them. Either they flee successfully and manage to escape their service, or they fail and receive the mercy of death that would still grant them escape from their service in life. That is the example that you will set here, Sir.Sure sounds like your intention was to make the cruel, evil Sinclair family reconsider their brand of justice.
>>4112166>We're were trying to see if he isn't a retard and will see reason.oh sure obviously a medieval JUDGE will change his verdict by telling him a "I am more holy than you"yeah trying to change the ideals of Justice of the noble hood that is now of their hard ways will obviously work out manSinclair is a retard for being a draconic asshole and anon is being retarded because he really thinks that shit could happen and make the """"bad boy"""' change to be a """"good boy""""
>>4112226An appeal isn't ''i'm more holy than you''. >>4112225>It's absolutely untrustworthy. If he was a freeman who became a serf, then he is rejecting the oaths that he took and begging to be saved from his own poor decision. If he was born a serf, then he is leaving his parents, siblings and any progeny behind to be dealt with by a potentially vicious lord.Vast majority of serfs are born serfs retard. There's is absolutely proof whatsoever that he left his family. That is a baseless assumption that you pulled out of your bullshitting ass in a weak attempt to demonize a mistreated runaway serf lel. It's as valid as me stating Jean was a pedophile who already raped and killed this serf's family. >Historically children of serfs are serfs. It's as likely as him being freeman, perhaps moreso because at least a freeman would have some skill enough to be useful to his lord.That means nothing. Serfs aren't automatically married and don't automatically have family. It's just as likely that the Sinclairs already killed his family.>Interesting supposition. Did you come up with that before or after your write-in turned out to be a poor coercive choice?I came up with it at the same you came up with your bullshit. On the spot.>Let me just pick this up for a moment.What a pathetic strawman. I'll post your bullshit and my response to it to refute you.>Retard: Your intervention here will not change their practices>My answer: Oh fuck off. No where did I state that this will make the Sinclairs stop being retards. This is about keeping Emile's vow which you trying to break and lying that you aren't.You were addressing the CURRENT intervention, you liar. The current intervention isn't my write-in, liar. The current intervention is about Emile's vows and answering the request for aid. I already know that Sinclair is a retard. Try harder.
>>4112191>hell even the option to intefere and duel Sinclair literally says that Emile doesnt care one whit about the peasant.That's bad wording that imo doesn't fit Emile's previous actions and character. He takes his noblesse oblige very seriously.Another thing that I don't like is how Emile is acting with Jean Sinclair right now. This is the Emile that saved that commoner kid from the noble kids at Aubrey? This is the Emile who took Mikail as his own squire? This is the Emile who saved Ava from the creeping horror? This is the Emile that charged Sir Hast Vancewell after he learned of his murder and rape of commoners? What do you mean Emile doesn't give a damn? Emile had no business arresting and attacking Sir Hast, yet he still did it because Sir Hast was acting dishonourably even though he was a knight, which enraged Emile. Yet, here is Emile acting all buddy buddy with unchivalrous Sir Jean Sinclair even though he stated that he will make the serf's death painful and slow just out of petty spite.Emile's haughtiness doesn't mean that he is apathetic towards commoners or that he will let acts of injustice towards them go. He has shown that multiple times.
Can we just agree on a fucking option please before we all suffer an autism induced aneurysm
>>4111859>>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]1st post in this thread because I work too damn much and for the most part I am okay with just reading the story as it progresses; the fact that we aren't 100% behind this option means I have to throw in my lot, even if it wont be counted.
>>4111859>>4111865Changing my vote>“Sir Sinclair, if you would indulge me. Allow our priest to speak a few words over the poor man.” The man’s life is forfeit, as dictated by law. He is a condemned criminal and the code was not meant to apply to such. But perhaps his soul can still be saved. [Idealist]
>>4112688>>4112005>>4111859Letting our Brother fight seems to be the least popular option so I'm going to switch to >“Sir Sinclair, if you would indulge me. Allow our priest to speak a few words over the poor man.” The man’s life is forfeit, as dictated by law. He is a condemned criminal and the code was not meant to apply to such. But perhaps his soul can still be saved. [Idealist]as well. It's not totally but it is partially because of how unpleasant some Anons are being about the vote. I don't want to encourage them because they seem to want Emile to feel justified breaking the law whenever her wants, doing it in the woods to stop slavers and save our brother was a very different situation from here.And that's all I'm saying until the vote ends. Discussion has gotten out of hand about it and people are just being dicks now. Argue with your votes please people.
>>4111862Stop beening so salty over how shit your writing went, it is what it is and hosntely i would have been pissed if i was the lord.And besides the rest of you know how low our roll would be and still chose this. Oh well hope this dosnt end up too badly.>“Sir Sinclair, if you would indulge me. Allow our priest to speak a few words over the poor man.” The man’s life is forfeit, as dictated by law. He is a condemned criminal and the code was not meant to apply to such. But perhaps his soul can still be saved. [Idealist>>4111291This is me.
>>4104327Me>>4111859>I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]
>>4112110>Is it JustI agree that it isn't Just to hang the man without giving him due consideration to confess.But like you said, you don't know how Serfdom works. The serf is guilty of theft of his labour rightly due to the lord. In all honesty, it's slavery with extra steps. Still, think of it within the context of the heirarchy. If we oppose Sinclair on those grounds, then we oppose not people within the system but the system itself.Our reasoning for fighting the Faction mercenaries was based on them being foreignera and slavers, something explicitly illegal (without a writ from the Royalty) and against our faith.Even then, Emile still refused to fight against the Queensmen, despite them being the ones who killed that Jay we found innawoods and them trying to kill out brother.We also didn't buy into the Bluejay shit there.Honestly if we had a passionate write in that condemned Sinclair for treating a man as if he were a Beast, or tried to play on the nature of Piety and Adam and Caine even forgiving the Dragon himself because of the mercy he showed them in the past as an example of how mercy given can be repaid later (as unlikely as it is for a serf, how much less likely was it for a slave to rise?) Then I would be fine fighting him.We're past the point of Emile wanting to fight against the system. Read the options, they're all about working within the system or standing second to Damien being a retard and making enemies. But at least Damien had the balls to commit to it.We're only getting involved for personal reasons if we fight, not because Emile views the law as unjust.
>>4110754My id >>4111859>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]
>>4111842That vote was only going to came into effect if we couldnt stop bro from dualing.
>>4113052> Damien tenses, his hands curling into fists. Then they relax. His head sinks, a defeated nod. “Damn you, Em. Damn it all.”Which we did.
Just going to leave these links herehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdomhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_peasantsRunning away was seen as the ultimate form of passive, non-violent peasant resistance (with the peasant rebellions being on the other end of the spectrum)
>>4113232As with slaves, serfs could be bought, sold, or traded (with some limitations as they generally could be sold only together with land, with the exception of the kholops in Russia and villeins in gross in England who could be traded like regular slaves), abused with no rights over their own bodies, could not leave the land they were bound to, and could marry only with their lord's permission.Pretty much slaves that come with land.
>>4113322>>4113232So from reading thies we have no legal right to stop Sinclair at all and realy just making it worse for the fuy beening hanged and for our fimalys rep to other lords.Just give the priest time to pray for him.
>>4113335Firstly this isn't earth, those things may not apply. Secondly it doesn't matter if what Sinclair is doing is absolutely accepted and entirely lawful, our knights code requires we help any call for aide honestly made. The call has been heard and we must respond
>>4113343But its based of earth and without forgotten giving us the laws of each land and how they all work this is the best information your going to be able to use to make a call.And didnt we just vote to not interfere and stoped our bro from fighting? Kinda silly to then turn around and fight the guy.>>4111891As the words of the qm "As you say, it is highly subjective"So the vow dosnt have to include this serf/ criminal at all as both those types of people have no rights.But hay vote how you want and fuck up our family's rep and make our journey even harder since we going to be in Sinclair lands for a bit not to metion this would hurt the whole dating game you all are trying for, good luck geting into miss reds panties arfter dualing this guy.Thats my 2 cents and ima leave it at that.
>>4113371>And didnt we just vote to not interfere and stoped our bro from fighting? Kinda silly to then turn around and fight the guy.And then the serf called for aid which means we MUST help or break our vow
>>4113377> This belief is subject to interpretation.I wish people would stop lying about how oaths work.
>>4113377Qm said it is highly subjective" which means the vow isnt 100 going to be broken if we dont help.Tis serf is a criminal so any help asked for would not count as hosntely asked for as any person is going to ask for help to not be killed.Like you people going to help every single person that asks for help even if we know they have broken the law couse they have hosntely asked for it if you say no then your going back on the whole we must up hold the vows at all cost and that takes away your leg your standing on.>>4113383Qm himself said that its it is highly subjective" which means subject to interpretation.Its how even though we have an oath to not have babys outside of a wife we can still fuck guys, get our dick sucked, fuck girls butts and stuff.Same with the dont tell a lie vow, with claver wording you can tell not the whole truth and kinda lie without breaking the vow. For each vow there are ways to get around it without breaking it at all.Do you not rember everyone talking all the ways we could workaround the do not have kids vow??
>>4113392We obviously see the punishment as unjust and since the serf is asking for aid it triggers our vow. That's my interpretation of it
>>4113398 This is a legal hanging and wont break our vow Thats my interpretation of itLets just leave it at that.Only time will tell which is right in the end.
>>4113398Do we? From the write in we choose to not challenge Sinclair.Emile only wants to uphold the vow in the haughty choice.Forgotten wouldn't give the choice to instead ensure the man gets his last confession instead if it wasn't in character.
>>4113407I'm not suggesting that that option is out of character, but it does seem to be trying to avoid our responsibilities >Do we?Well yeah, it's been mentioned several times how outdated and draconian the punishments out here are and of course we have the option here to back that up:>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]That's a clear indication that there is a version of Emile who considers what has happened here as requiring he fulfill his vows and attempt to aid this serf
>>4113416I see it as a question of whether or not Emile places his vows above the law.Making the transition to Neutral Good.
>>4113416Yep. And we get to choose.If you want him to care about the serf, vote idealist. If you want him to care more about his vows, vote haughty.This path leads down to Rogue Inquisitor if we keep up with the haughty though.
>>4111859>Sir Sinclair, if you would indulge me. Allow our priest to speak a few words over the poor man.” The man’s life is forfeit, as dictated by law. He is a condemned criminal and the code was not meant to apply to such. But perhaps his soul can still be saved. [Idealist]The man is a prisoner who has received a sentence. Now we may view it as excessive, be we are not the judge nor jury. As such, we do not have to oblige his call to aid.>>4105791This is me, in case of ID change
>>4111859>>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]>>4111860No one ever leaves Fallavon
>>4113343That faggot is selectively posting cherrypicked parts but leaves out the ones that don't. Here let me give you some of what he left out.>A lord of the manor could not sell his serfs as a Roman might sell his slaves. On the other hand, if he chose to dispose of a parcel of land, the serfs associated with that land stayed with it to serve their new lord>Serfs who occupied a plot of land were required to work for the lord of the manor who owned that land. In return they were entitled to protection, justice, and the right to cultivate certain fields within the manor to maintain their own subsistence. >Within his constraints, a serf had some freedoms. Though the common wisdom is that a serf owned "only his belly" – even his clothes were the property, in law, of his lord – a serf might still accumulate personal property and wealth, and some serfs became wealthier than their free neighbours, although this happened rarely. A well-to-do serf might even be able to buy his freedom.>The landlord could not dispossess his serfs without legal cause and was supposed to protect them from the depredations of robbers or other lords, and he was expected to support them by charity in times of famine. Many such rights were enforceable by the serf in the manorial court.>A serf could grow what crop he saw fit on his lands, although a serf's taxes often had to be paid in wheat. The surplus he would sell at market.>The amount of labour required varied. In Poland, for example, it was commonly a few days per year per household in the 13th century. One day per week per household in the 14th century>"Per household" means that every dwelling had to give a worker for the required number of days.[28] For example, in the 18th century, six people: a peasant, his wife, three children and a hired worker might be required to work for their lord one day a week, which would be counted as six days of labour.>Serfs served on occasion as soldiers in the event of conflict and could earn freedom or even ennoblement for valour in combat. Serfs could purchase their freedom, be manumitted by generous owners, or flee to towns or to newly settled land where few questions were asked. Laws varied from country to country: in England a serf who made his way to a chartered town (i.e. a borough) and evaded recapture for a year and a day obtained his freedom and became a burgher of the town.
>>4113343Anyway the "muh legal" excuse is pure bullshit and they don't even care about it. A lawful neutral character went out of the way when we attacked Vancewell and trialed him. We had no legal authority or right to attack him but we still did it. The real reason they don't want to challenge Jean to a trial by combat which is perfectly legal unlike suddenly attacking Hast is because of the chance of losing pussy.
at the end of the day everything just concludes with Emile fighting Sinclair you know a lot of shit could have been avoided in the first place, if you having chose tho defy Sinclair on the first place, at the end you just made both parties mad some way at Emile Damian is mad because you don't side with him on the first place and Sinclair not after bringing the "holier thon u" you are defying is authoritah and way of Justice he use on his land
>>4113932Damien won't be upset now that Emile will actually save the serf. He's brother-for-life so even if he was upset it will be only temporary.We got 1 success with Sinclair so he isn't offended at us.
>>4113932It's a pretty dumb opinion to suggest we should have just fought from the beginning because that's how this is ending. We attempted to resolve things without violence but have been pushed into fighting. These things happen and we couldn't possibly have known things would end like this but we've vows to keep. Damien will get over it, Sinclair may not, but you can't make everyone happy
Y'all Kniggas need the Almighty
>>4113932> Tracker Jean 2, Fallavon Boogaloo
>>4113935Got a double fail, so he has a bad relationship with Damien.Maybe instead of hoping for dice passes, we should make a GOOD write in next time.
>>4113935anon Emile is going fight him you really think he will not change his opinion because of the suddenly change of heart and opposing against his verdict>He's brother-for-life anon you just have to make something he really doesn't approve and poof there goes brother of life you know that doesn't mean this will be forever man >>4113937>we couldn't possibly have known things would end like thisanon a lot of people know the out come will be bad we are on the middle of penury whe don't even have the bonus DC of speak truth and yeah tell JUDGE 883 A.C.E how to rule his land and follow Justiceeven I consider that challenging Sinclair was the best option tho salve the serf live and trying to talk with the hard and ruthless knight was futile man
>>4113950I still think working the religious angle instead of lecturing him on governance could have worked better.Make the Serf face some lightning with us.
>>4113929We literally caught Vancewell red-handed, and took him to a Court to be tried which had the possibility of him going free.You literally could not find a better example of Lawful Good.
>>4113946He has a bad relationship with the Green Knight and it still ain't Emile.>>4113950Don't change the subject faggot. You said he'll upset when I provided proof that he went. Read the brother-for-life and what it actually required to go down>>4113956Bullshit we caught him red handed. We tried to question him at the river and he answered then we attacked him hoping to murder him because his answers pissed off Emile. We had no legal authority to assault or arrest Hast no matter how you get down to it. Lawful neutral died with that.
>>4113967From the thread itself>3 Success >Sir Andrei and Mikail make good time and catch up to Sir Vancewell >Sir Andrei's suspicions of Sir Vancewell involvement are vindicatedThis was before we even confronted him.> ”Ah, Sir Andrei.” Sir Vancewell greets you with a smile, perhaps you only imagine his nervousness. He notices your lack of salutation and your stare at the marks on his hands. ”It is the new gauntlets unfortunately, absolutely terrible. I should have the armourer whipped.”Also>"I am no village idiot, sir." You use his title with no small amount of venom. "Were they so uncomfortable you would not have been wearing them as we passed along the road.”As you speak Mikail edges his horse over to Sir Vancewell’s, as you previously directed to. This none too subtly positions your squire between the man and his escape.>”Whatever do you mean?” Sir Vancewell’s tone is less friendly, his hand dropping to the mace at his side.>”You know well what I mean.” You state flatly, edging Hannibal closer. The horse twitches, as if sensing that galloping chase was the least of the excitement to be had today.> "…I am close friends with the Crown Prince and His Excellency Montbrun. Be careful before you make some outlandish accusation…" Sir Vancewell changes tact, his eye darting from you to your squire to the distance to his horse. He is not quite trapped, but the noose is closing and he knows it. The man has a slippery tongue, quite in contrast to the typical Montbrun reputation. He has clearly been at Court a long time. "His Highness would be most displeased if I were delayed while acting for him on a mission of grave importance."> It is not an admission, not quite. But it is enough to convince you. This man is responsible. But what will you do now that your suspicions are confirmed?We knew he was guilty of crimes most foul. We chose to also treat him like the criminal he was.> >”Enough. Die as you lived, like a dog.” Ride the man down, give him no opportunity to reach his horse. You’ll have an overwhelming advantage in combat, but this is legally unsound. He is not defenceless, so this is not in breach of your vow. This man has not acted like a knight or man of noble bearing, so you shall not treat him as one. [Haughty]Emile made the distinction that as a criminal, Vancewell had lost the normal protections of his station.
>>4113967Point about the Green Knight.We should at least be able to get our brother to tone it down a bit after this.
>>4114009Don't bother. Anons won't admit they're wrong even when Forgotten directly states something different from what they claim.
>>4114009Literally nothing you wrote changes what I said. Emile's own suspicions mean nothing. He had no legal authority to attack and arrest Sir Hast based on mere suspicion and he certainly didn't have the legal authority to determine guilt. Attempting to murder Hast because his answers pissed off Emile sure as hell wasnt legal either.
>“Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh* Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.” You don’t give a damn about the bloody serf, but you must live up to the Knight’s Code. Even when you would rather do anything but. [Haughty]I’m always delighted to see anons discussing the choices and dilemmas presented before them, but please do try to be polite it. By 4chan standards anyway.---------------------------------------You do not honestly believe that you are beholden to lend your strength of arms to every criminal or lowlife that asks for it, but something sticks in your craw about this whole issue. Sir Jean Sinclair is an accomplished knight and swordsman, one who exemplifies the martial virtues required of his station and a veteran of the dangers of the frontier. All that would make you respect, even admire him, but there is a cruel streak in this. It is not the serf himself you care for; you don’t know the villean or anything of his misdeeds and petty acts. Is it unlawful, what they have done? Yes, undoubtedly so. And their guilt is not in question. Aside from the vaguely foul taste it leaves in your mouth, the harsh penalty is being meted by someone with the authority to do so. Who are you, from a foreign Duchy, to question the laws and customs of this realm? You simply don’t know, and ignorance is not any sort of basis to challenge the authority of a fellow knight on. It troubles you, although not enough to make a scene and risk the mission on some self-assured presumption.So when the peasant calls for help, and you know in your bones that you must answer, you hate it. You hate that the Code would demand you act as such, for all the difficulty and trouble that will arise from this confrontation over one serf’s life. It feels wrong to ignore the pleas for help and move on. And so you must take the hard road rather than the easy one. “Pit. Fucking. Damn it. *sigh*” But now the call for aid has come, and you must answer. No matter how petty the plea, no matter how little you personally care for one runaway peasant. You are a knight, and it behoves you to act as such. Even when you would rather not. “Sir Sinclair, I am afraid I must insist on a duel after all. With me.”“You jest.” Sir Sinclair is not laughing.“I do anything but.” You respond solemnly, unhooking your shield from your back. “ ‘His Might Upholds the Weak’. I must refuse no call for aid, honestly asked for. As must we all.”“This wretch is anything but honest. You are not obliged to lend him aid, he is undeserving of it.” Sir Sinclair has turned his attention away from the uncertain Green Knight and entirely to you. His hand slaps the hilt of his blade. “If you have wish to test me at arms it need not be over this foolishness.”[1/2]
>>4114046> Attempted murderWe actually offered him quarter after defeating him, though? If Emile wanted to kill him, he could have there. But instead he chose to go the Lawful route despite knowing Vancewell had "Powerful friends".Forgottens exact explanation after we chose to apprehend him instead of punishing him ourselves> My interpretation is that Emile’s sudden attack shows that he has a bit of a temper, but he restrained himself from going down the Path of Thorns in an extrajudicial slaying.> I will explain the difference between Trial by Combat and Challenges more later, but I feel that some anons are conflating the two. If the accused is not a knight, only they can elect trial by combat (unless on appeal in the realms where appeal is even a thing). If the accused is a knight, any knight can demand a trial by combat once a prima facie case is established. So even if you chose trial by combat earlier and killed him, you would still have to justify to the local lord that there was enough evidence of their guilt to warrant trial (though not necessarily their guilty).> Challenges are purely personal grudges between knights and are not usually a lawful excuse for serious injury or killing. Without reliable witnesses, it is tantamount to murder.Let me emphasize the important part> If the accused is a knight, any knight can demand a trial by combat once a prima facie case is established. So yeah, Emile could have demanded trial by combat then and there but took him to Norveski instead. Norveski was even upset about Emile not doing a trial by combat and dumping the mess in his lap. To quote> "And why, Sir Andrei, would you commit this Almighty-mess so benevolently into my lap instead of demanding trial by combat?"So yeah. I also found an interesting bit on Emile's views of crime and punishment in that thread> ”Simplicity goes hand in hand with honesty. Vancewell is guilty and should be punished to the fullest extent of Adam’s Law. Any ulterior considerations in judgement… is not justice.” Not wanting to sound naïve, you continue. ”If you must, consider the example that will be set for the conduct of knights. We noblemen are awarded higher privileges, higher honour and higher standards.”
[2/2]“It is not about who is deserving, but what is right.” Doubtless the priests could phrase it fairer, but you know in your heart that you are doing what you must. If not for some lofty ideal of justice, then at the very least because you cannot countenance going against the Code as a noble knight of Cantôn. “Give me your word that this man shall suffer a lesser sentence for his crimes, one without death or disfigurement. A flogging, ten strokes, as it is in the lands of my father. If you cannot, then I must insist on a trial by combat.” “I disagree. And so we must resolve this as men.” You do not bother trying to convince Sir Sinclair any further, he is not inclined to compromise. Right Makes Might after all, under the Almighty’s eyes it shall be revealed whether you truly are in the right. There is a comforting release in that.“As men. So be it.” As the challenged party, Sir Sinclair dictates the terms of duel. “Here and now. Ahorse with shield and blade. May the Almighty side with the better man.” You were about to suggest Sir dan Marc as his second, having been previously acquainted with him at the tourney, when the rasp of steel alerts you to the Fallavon knight’s earnest intention. “Hyah!” With a sharp cry and kick of the spurs, Sir Jean Sinclair thunders towards you and closes the distance in a matter of seconds. It occurs to you, as you hastily secure your shield and bring Hannibal about in those frantic few moments where the world slows down before the blur of combat, that Sir Sinclair made no mention of whether this was to first blood, yield or to the death as some trials-by-combat are. But from the lethal intent and the measure of the man, you don’t take him for knight given much to half-measures.===============================Combat rolls will start roughly 24 hours from now at 20:00 AEST(1) Combat Stance – As you are both Blademasters, a roll will be required to assert your stance over his.>Cautious - Double AV (Max 80), Total unsaved damage to Foe is halved (Rounding up)>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled.(2) Lethality> Despite his skill, you believe you can bring him to heel without risk of killing him. [Your attacks will only reduce your opponent to Injured, at most.]> Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]> You cannot spare a moment of hesitation. You are fighting for your life. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 100% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time.]
>>4114064>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.> Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]Inb4 anons just go full audacious cuz they stupid
>>4114064>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled.> Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]Fuck it. If we're doing this, let's end it fast enough that we can maybe shock some sense into him.
>>4114064>>41140641)>>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.2)> Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]
>>4114068Hey buddy, fuck you.
>>4114074He's right though, going audacious in the first round against a skilled opponent (he has blade master) is generally a bad idea. We should take his measure first and then adjust accordingly
>>4114064>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.And since we can't cripple everyone in Fallavon> Despite his skill, you believe you can bring him to heel without risk of killing him. [Your attacks will only reduce your opponent to Injured, at most.]I mean. We can always yield too.
>>4114075I suppose since he's a blademaster.>>4114064Switch >>4114072 to >Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
>>4114064(1) Combat Stance>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.Get the measure of the man first, how he fights and thinks before we charge in.(2) Lethality> Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]
>>4114064>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.> Despite his skill, you believe you can bring him to heel without risk of killing him. [Your attacks will only reduce your opponent to Injured, at most.]
>>4114064>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.> Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]Guys an audacious charge while on horse is dangerous. Remember what happened when Gabriel charged on horse with audacious
>>4114064>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.>Despite his skill, you believe you can bring him to heel without risk of killing him. [Your attacks will only reduce your opponent to Injured, at most.]Let’s not kill him, please.
>>4114064Forgotten what about the bear totem and borrowing our bros blade? I hope you did not come up with some bullshit excuse to stop us from using it.
>>4114093It's not like we can stop and ask for it mate, we're already in combat, we're being charged at right now and Damien went off sulking
>>4114093The bear totem yes, but I'm not going to allow you to borrow your brother's blade.
>>4114064>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.that blade master reroll>> Despite his skill, you believe you can bring him to heel without risk of killing him. [Your attacks will only reduce your opponent to Injured, at most.]
>>4114064>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.>Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]We can change our lethality every turn we chose a stance right? Don't see any reason why we wouldn't be able to.
>>4114064>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled.> Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]
>>4114064>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage>Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]
>>4111840I take back what I said here. Sir Emile isn't a hypocrite who doesn't practice what he preaches after all and actually keeps his vows.
>>41140641>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged2> Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]
>>4114064>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.Let's get careful here, Jean Sinclair is a very dangerous swordsman.> Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]
>>4114064>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.>Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]Guys we need to remember that this is Sir Jean Sinclair. He will view Emile holding back as a great disrespect to his warrior skills. He'll likely become upset and go full lethal with the intent to kill Emile if we hold back. There's a higher chance that he yields if we don't hold back since being defeated by a opponent holding back will be an irrecoverable blow to his arrogance.
>>4114064>Balanced>No holding back>>4114097What a bullshit arbitrary railroad.
>>4114064>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.> Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]URSEN!>4106914Is me
I don't think that a sword is something you can just borrow, like a toy. Remember to enjoy the quest anons
>>4114181How is it arbitrary? It's already been established that our brother rode off in anger - with the sword - and that we're being charged at right. this. second. Not exactly a lot of time to stop and ask to borrow his brand new weapon (which would be dumb anyway, we had our chance to pick one up and we didn't).
>>4114205>we're being charged at right. this. second.Which is exactly what I fucking said, a bullshit arbitrary railroad. Railroading us into a situation where we can't just go to Damien and ask to borrow his blade. This is a trial by combat. We should be able to prepare and pick our equipment. At least do a more subtle, less arbitrary railroad Forhacks.
>>4114064>>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.>>Despite his skill, you believe you can bring him to heel without risk of killing him. [Your attacks will only reduce your opponent to Injured, at most.]Hopefully we can win without something like the marquis happening again.
>>4114235You're such a whiny cunt, if you have that big a problem with it feel free to leave. The rest of us are going to have fun and participate
>>4114064>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.>Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]
>>4114064>>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.>(2) Lethality>> Despite his skill, you believe you can bring him to heel without risk of killing him. [Your attacks will only reduce your opponent to Injured, at most.]
>>4114163>We can change our lethality every turn we chose a stance right?no anon that not how it works you are choosing how to approach the duel for his entirety of the day, we can change the lethality until some ""event"" occurs
>>4114235Faggot
>>4114064>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.> Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]
>>4114235arbitrary: "based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system."This is a fed-up, bored guy who wants to get his job over with and is tired of his authority being questioned on his own land. Setting the terms himself (which is his right because he's the challenged party), he decided we're going to fight as we are RIGHT NOW.That's not arbitrary, that's a perfectly logical and expected consequence. (or at least it WOULD be expected if people thought their actions out a little bit)
>>4113929>The landlord could not dispossess his serfs without legal cause which he has with the serf runing away.Legal rights is the only rights that countThe law appalys to everyone as it was since with the court we had with murder happy kinght.Your forgeting the family rep and safety did you all forget that the queensman leaders are looking for a scape goat to blame and kill off right now?Makeing us hated in any place is going to increase the chance our house gets picked.Also you vow fags would you fight a cop becouse you think he was treating someone unjustly but the cop has full right of the law? Tell me how well that would go.
>>4114064>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.> Sir Sinclair is not holding back, and neither shall you. [Reducing your opponent to Slain has a 50% chance of killing him if he does not yield in time]Guse its time to kill/brake another important kinght and bring more trouble to us and family , demm vow faggs going full retard.Ether way we should talk with the prists and ask them about the vows and if letting the man hang would have beoken it or not.>>4112761This is me.
>>4114307I support doing this afterward:>Ether way we should talk with the prists and ask them about the vows and if letting the man hang would have beoken it or not.Let's keep that in mind.
>>4114294There are no cops in this quest, you imbecile. Any police misconduct or miscarriage of justice by a cop is something to report. Come up with a less retarded analogy for your pathetic attempt for a gotcha, pea brains.
>>4114321There are cops, Or are you forgetting who can detain, trail and kill within the law? The ruleing house of a land are the cops oh and theres also town guards that keep the law and people that give judge and order hangings and such.Our whole cop system is just an updated version oh what kights and shit used just going by differnt names.Going right to insults totaly showing me whos got a pea brain, good job good job
>>4114321You can report all you want dosnt change the fact that if you try to stop/fight the cop your going to get your ass handed to you and charged with interfaring with the law regardless of what the cop was doing at the time.What we doing right now isn't reporting the guy your now fighting/stoping him.
>>4114327I'm not insulting you. I'm describing you. You're an imbecile who can't even come with a good gotcha. You're a seething, salty hypocrite who was just telling me ''Stop being so salty'' and ''it is what is'' here>>4112761, but now you're bitching and disrespecting anons and calling them ''(insert ad hom here)-fags'' because they didn't vote the way you want.Cops are an updated version of knights? You don't know what the fuck you're talking about do you? Here's what a knight is:>A knight is a person granted an honorary title of knighthood by a head of state (including the pope) or representative for service to the monarch, the church or the country, especially in a military capacity. The word kn
