>>4060102
>Flee toward the sunset
Our people cannot hope to fight them, not yet, but our vengeance is inevitable.

>>4060102
>Stand your ground.

It’s better to take a few hits to guage your enemy’s power. If it’s too much, you can always run.

>>4060102
>>Flee toward the sunset

>>4060102
>Flee toward the sunset
I would like to stand and fight, but it seems to be instant death

>>4060102
>Flee toward the sunset

>>4060102
>Stand your ground

>>4060102
>flee to sunset

A good premise. Let's hope it lasts more than a day.

>>4060544
>>4060534
>>4060508
>>4060469
>>4060110
Though you are not officially King yet, you already make the toughest decision ever laid before one: To abandon the land of our ancestors and run.
The survivors amount to naught but a few hundred people, you had hoped that in the time you've waited and prepared for your exodus that more refugees would come to bolster your numbers, but alas. Now we head into the great unknown, into the lands beyond the sunset.
A treacherous and long journey awaits us, that much you know for sure, anything else however, is a mystery as great as life itself.
After another day of preparation, the Sunset Trek begins.

For miles you march, across swamps and forests you've never before seen, leaving behind the familiar rivers of home, the salty smell of the sea accompanying you along the way. When you come across an open plain and hear the steps of those terrible beasts, your people almost scatter into the wind. It was a herd of horses running past you in the distance, you convinced your people at least. If it truly was or if it were the horsemen somehow not spotting you, is something you shall never know.
As days turn into weeks, weeks turn into months and months turn into years, you've struggled your way through marshes, moors and bogs of all colors and sizes. Your people are getting tired and there seems to be no end to these swamps in sight. It is time to settle down, there is no way around it, if not right here then somewhere close. You send out your scouts to survey the area, they tell us of a mighty river, an open field and a thicket the likes of which we've never seen.

>Settle Swamp
>Settle River
>Settle Plains
>Settle Forest

>>4060950
>>Settle Swamp

>>4060950
>Settle Swamp

>>4060950
>>Settle Swamp

>>4060950
>Settle Swamp
Might not be popular but it'll harden our people into chad-tier barbarians.

>>4060950
>Settle River

>>4060950
>Settle Swamp

>>4060951
>>4061122
>>4061137
>>4061145
We going to become the trading empire of Venice now, petrified wooden beams and all

>>4061201
>>4061145
>>4061137
>>4061122
>>4060951
You heed the plead of your people and settle down on the spot. It's not ideal, that's for sure, but we can make this work, your ancestors lived around swamps, though this is not the same thing, our skills as a people will surely help us.
Your tents go up on the few dry patches of soil, scattered across the swamp, into a large central camp where the majority of your people find shelter, and several surrounding sites nearby.
Though food in the swamp is scarce, your people did bring Livestock with them, along with a couple of fishermen, who scour the nearby coast and river for good fishing grounds, and a few elderly women who pass on their ancient knowledge of berries and mushrooms to the girls.
It is a precarious situation, but managable, no one goes hungry, or truly sated.
Erecting solid structures proves to be another challenge, as we cut down trees and work them into logs to build our village, we find ourselves watching the foundations for our Longhouses simply sink into the ground, never to be seen again.
When we tried to dig out the trench for a shallowriver, it too proved a challenge. The soil would simply give way and fall back into the hole, forcing us to endlessly dig with no progress made.
We find ourselves now, unable to build houses and sow seeds, and the people are swarming you for answers and suggestions alike.
The words of the mad and brilliant are drowned out by the screams of the afraid, you can barely make out a single word of what they're saying
what will you tell the people?
(these are cryptic on purpose)
>something about uh...trees?
>erm drink?
>was that...mountain?
>they should just stay in the tents

>>4061240
>something about uh...trees?

Need to petrify logs like most swamp peoples did in history

>>4061240
>something about uh...trees?
Not sure what any of these choices mean, but I'll go with this one. Swamp's seeming like a bad choice. At least the horse nomads will probably stay away

>>4061295
Well, if it consoles you, that's kinda the point
when was the last time you knew what was going on when 50+ people shouted different things at you simultaneously?

>>4061240
>something about uh...trees?

Could be a bad choice since is a very early age. And it would cut away farmers and herders from their work, they can t do much here if not just help building. If there where some islands around with solid ground, maybe they could live with us. If this is a lake maybe we can try to make fields on it like the atzecs, even if it will require time to research.
Or we could put them on the nearby plain and make them return here if anything arrives.
The river is bigger than the ones of our homeland, so it will be probably more dangerous but at the same time more fertile.


The Mountain will be probably important, mainly for stone and if we are lucky copper. The problem is that going from there to here on foot will be slow. So might be a good idea to capture a few horses.

>>4061240

>something about uh...trees?

>>4061429
>>4061382
>>4061295
>>4061264
You stammer something about Trees at them, and sure enough the confusion silences the crowd for a moment. You search out the man who said this initially and demand him to explain this tree business to the crowd.
He suggests that we merely cut off all the branches of a tree, and ram the whole thing into the ground as it is, surely a big enough tree will be big enough to sink all the way to the bottom of the swamp and still be far enough above water for us to build on.
This seems crazy, to say the least, but not unreasonable, you decide to give it a try and your people traverse the swamp enmasse, hauling entire trees while almost drowning themselves.
After several weeks of these uncomfortable and dangerous hauls, the plan is coming to fruition. We now have ample building space atop the piles our people have come to call Wetzuhai. Atop the wetzuhai we place a layer of crudely made planks, on which we build.
Sadly, there is still not enough space for even a single Longhouse, so we instead build multiple, cut-off longhouses, these shorthouses as it were, dot the scenery of the vast, brown and yellow swamp we found ourselves in.
During all of this, many a man had almost drowned in mud if not for the workers combined effort to pull them out.
On the bright side, we have figured out now where the safe paths through the swamp are, and marked them with thinly cut wetzuhai.
Across the unsafe path we've build thin bridges that are much like our foundations.
The issue of sowing seeds still remain however. We cannot do farming in this wasteland, and building our shallowrivers is still not an option, despite the wetzuhai

>farm in the river valley
>systematically forage
>organize the fishermen
>focus on livestock

>>4061446

>Systematically forage

Whilst farming would be ideal in the future, right now we need to focus on the short term if we need to survive. The livestock are limited, and whilst fishermen would be a good supplement, there is the danger of overfishing the rivers clean. As it is, systematically foraging seems like the best option for building up a fair stock of food we can support ourselves on before working on something more sustainable and long-term.

>>4061459
i'll second this

>>4061459
>>4061463
while we forage we need to try to figure out if there are any native plants we could cultivate and farm

>>4061446
>Systematically forage

>>4061446
>>systematically forage

>>4061446
>Systematically forage

>>4061446
>systematically forage


For now it should be fine (even if we aren t a small group), but we should return to farming as soon as we can.

>>4061446
>systematically forage
Would those Aztec floating farms work in a swamp rather than a lake? In any case we might not want to fill the waterways where traffic is meant to go and it's a long term project.

>>4061643
>>4061619
>>4061550
>>4061463
>>4061459
>>4061770
>>4061814
With no reliable food source at hand, you decide to take fate into your own hands and let your people make one themselves. You summon the women and warriors and order them to scour every forest, valley and bog for berries, fruits and mushrooms to pick. No stone shall be left unturned, they are to canvass every plant in the world if they have to, their children, their husbands and most importantly their prince, rely on them to save our people in these dire times.
You ceremoniously arm the warriors and women alike, with clubs and mallets from your personal armory, which right now is really just the unused tarp of a broken tent.
With only your blessings and that of the sun, they go out to search for food with renewed vigor.
This was a risky move, as only the children and elderly remained behind, if any of them got captured, it would be a huge loss to us. If we got attacked right now, it would certainly spell our end as well, but food must take priority. You will personally defend every single subject of yours if you must, at least that's what you tell yourself to keep calm.

Almost a week passes, and worries begin to arise as the rest of the kingdom falls into starvation, the fishermen unable to supply all of your subjects. But at last, they return and the warriors report no combat and none missing. One woman had gone lost on the way home and they had to find her, which greatly delayed their return, but here they are, triumphantly returning with wagon loads of forage.
You eagerly await a more indepth report from your warriors, but for now, it is time to celebrate.

The elder women have searched out all the excess food not needed to feed our people, and arranged for the festivities before their return already, making this process a lot easier on everyone's already strained nerves.
Everyone gathers outside of their homes, in the central plaza of your wooden town, the wisewomen have arranged for a decorative throne to be made, specifically for you, as they have done for all kings before. But you are no King yet, so this strikes you as heart-warmingly misguided.
Regardless, you have your festivities, and for a while everything seems fine, nobody's starving, the horsemen are nowhere to be found, the gods aren't unleashing their wrath upon you, it's almost like normalcy has returned to everyone's lives.
At the end of the festivities, the wisewomen and wisemen prevent you from leaving your throne and present to you a crown made from nothing but stones and twigs, twisted and pushing into each other as to not fall out. It looks fragile, but they assure you it is sturdy and place it firmly on your head.
They bow before you, and shortly thereafter, the rest of the crowd does as well.
KING Aitlaz the First.

Emboldened by this turn of events you give a grand speech about your plans for the future

>Glory
>Revenge
>Prosperity

>>4061814

Having done some research, it seems like in theory it ought to be possible. It'd be quite the initial investment of labour, and rather more difficult in a swamp than in a lake, but the dividends from doing so would hopefully be more than enough to make up for it.

>>4061825
I'd like to inform you that, if my hints weren't clear enough
that we are specifically in a peat marsh
I'm calling the swamp a wasteland for a reason

>>4061829

Ah, I see. My apologies in that case.

>>4061821

>Prosperity

With how precarious our situation is right now, revenge is unlikely to be particularly possible any time soon, and glory can only come when it is possible to support it. In our current state, prosperity is the best we can hope for.

>>4061821
>Revenge
I don't think we'll ever completely wipe out the germs so a permanent persecution complex ought to bind the people together and keep them fighting ferociously over further perceived sleights.
>>4061829
Hmm, sounds like Venice won't be feasible in a peat marsh either. Sounds like we've pushed ourselves into being crannogmen, we'd better conquer better land fast.

>>4061821
>Prosperity

Looks grim, but there is good land near us so we can settle there as well. I thought we would have been able to do something here, at least it will be one of our settlements that can be easily defend.

Well we have walk in a great swamp before arriving here, a swamp large like that is already a great protection for us.
>>4061858

We have good land near us there is no need to conquer, we can settle it.

>>4061908
>>4061858
>>4061847
>I'd like to give a status update for everyone, to work with, as the game will open up soon and you'll have proper decision trees.
>We are in a peat marsh and made it barely habitable
>Due to who we are, we have canal-building and irrigation technology way ahead of anyone else in the region
>There is a fertile river valley nearby
>There is a shitty mudlands beach nearby
>There are trees virtually everywhere, even in this shithole, especially mangroves toward the coast
>Your future is only limited by your imagination, and physics

>>4061931

Interesting, thanks for the info.

It does seem like aiming for the river valley in the future would be a fair idea, given it'd be ideal for farming and would serve as a good breadbasket. As it stands though, the swamp is a defensible enough starting settlement, and a good place to retreat to as a fallback position should the horsemen find us - I doubt their horses would have much luck in that sort of environment, which ought to remove one of their prime advantages.

>>4061908
>>4061847
You urge your people to persevere, to survive in this wasteland, you will thrive no matter the odds, or may the gods strike you down right where you stand. You hold out your arms and look into the cloudy grey sky expectantly, there is silence of a brief moment. Nothing, then the clouds clear. If this isn't a sign of your divine providence, then you don't know what is.
Your people cheer, they seem to be content with your speech. You've never done this before, but you figure that you'll have ample opportunity to practice these things in the future.
Everyone returns to their businesses, and you grab the head warrior and figuratively drag him to your shorthouse in excitement.

He lays bare to you, everything the foraging party witnessed on their week long assignment. Several berries were found growing in surroundings bogs, much like the one we live in, a hard red one, a soft red one and a soft black one that looks just like the red.
We've never seen berries like these before, but the foragers tried them, sweet grassy, sweet sour and bitter sweet respectively.
Then the party also met hunters from a barbarian people, assumed to be somewhere from the sunset. There was no contact between them and us, our numbers likely alarmed them.
The River valley nearby seems to be uninhabited, the foragers followed it all the way to the sea, there was nothing to be found on our side of it. What lies beyond the river however, remains a mystery.
The lack of significant events from the other areas surrounding the settlement, suggests that this gargantuan swamp we found ourselves in, is entirely uncontested.

With these good news, it is time for you as a king to decide how to process all of this information.

Technology:
>Agriculture - Berry seeds
>Construction - Woodworking
>Government - Record keeping
Diplomacy
>Establish contact
>Organize raid
Economy
>City - Expand infrastructure (Capital)
Roleplay
>Public relations
>Write in

>>4062320
>Agriculture - Berry seeds
We'll need a permanent food source, we can leverage woodworking after that and trade surplus for further food.

>>4062320
>>Construction - Woodworking
Be builders will do farming when we get slaves for it.

>>4062320
>Agriculture - Berry seeds
The other things can come later

>>4062326
>>4062383
Support give em cool aid.

>>4062320

>Agriculture - Berry seeds

Food first, then we can move onto other matters.

>>4062320
>Agriculture - Berry seeds


If it s uncontested and we are the only one here we can fully use this region, especially that mountain and the valley of the great river.

And if the swamp is that big, it s an incredible defense for our people.

>>4062320
>>Agriculture - Berry seeds

>>4062420
>>4062393
>>4062383
>>4062326
>>4062487
>>4062756
You order the wisewomen to gather a handful of seeds from each of the three berries the foragers found. It takes them several attempts, lasting days and weeks each, before they figured out how to extract the seeds out of these new berries. With three handfuls of seeds now available to you, you instruct the farmers to sow them in the marshy soil and tend to these new crops.
It'll take at least a year until we find out if these berries really grow here, and then gods know how long until we can subsist on them, but it's a start.

Technology:
>Construction - Woodworking
>Government - Record keeping
Diplomacy:
>Peace - Establish contact
>War - Organize raid
Economy:
>City - Expand infrastructure (Capital)
>City - Stockpile resources (Capital)
>City - Build wall (Capital)
Religion:
>Faith - New ways
Roleplay:
>Public - Carousing
>Personal - Find wife
>Martial - Fitness training
>Write in

>>4062763
>>Construction - Woodworking
Surely expanding infrastructure and such would be more useful when we have actual woodworking skills.

>>4062763
>>Martial - Fitness training

>>4062763
>Construction - Woodworking

>>4062763
>Construction - Woodworking

If it's wood can we make some nice boomerangs. Not for coming back, but for hunting.

>>4062763
>Construction - Woodworking
Can we only pick one?

>Martial - Fitness training

I think we can order our group to do one, and we can do a personal action......

We should settle the rivers soon so there will be less people to contest it with later....

>>4063445
yes, you can only pick one unless specified otherwise
decisions matter

>>4063445
>>4062855
>>4062813
>>4062785
The crude planks that define the city, are neither a masterwork by any means, nor particularly pleasing to look at. While it is a step up from literally sleeping in shallow water, it is still unpleasant. The novelty of it has already worn off and the people are starting to get bothered by not just how ugly all of this is, but by the safety hazard the poor craftsmanship poses. Not too long ago, a child has broken it's leg after it tripped and got stuck in a small gap between the planks. We can't go on like this.
You find some young men, not quite of fighting age, being lazy layabouts and not helping their parents with their work. You look at them, they look at you. There's quite an expectation in their eyes, they probably think you're here to recruit them into the warriors, which is what every boy dreams of.
You shatter their expectations and instead, show them around the settlement, which they of course already know by heart, but this about teaching them something.
You show them every crack, every gap, every hole, where one might hurt themselves. They get the picture pretty quickly.

The following days, the youths proudly present to you a single plank, like a child would to their father. It's a somewhat humbling experience, you're barely older than them. They made this plank, it seems to be of high quality, you are somewhat impressed by this work, but you tell them, we need more than just one.
The youths understand.

Two weeks pass and these young wood workers have made quite a name for themselves. Their parents came to you for an audience regarding your choice of career for them. They would have preferred if they had taken up their profession, as is custom, but are impressed you gave these good-for-nothings something to aspire to.

Technology:
>Government - Record keeping
Diplomacy:
>Peace - Establish contact
>War - Organize raid
Economy:
>City - Expand infrastructure (Capital)
>City - Stockpile resources (Capital)
>City - Build wall (Capital)
Religion:
>Faith - New ways
Roleplay:
>Public - Carousing
>Public - Hunting
>Personal - Find wife
>Martial - Fitness training
>Write in

>>4063595

>City - Expand infrastructure (Capital)

Now that we're actually a little more skilled at the job, it's probably about time we expanded the infrastructure of our capital, made it a little something more. As always, it's best to stabilise our initial position before moving onto anything else.

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>>4063595
>Write in: Harvest the peat for fuel and as a material in general

You said that this is a peat marsh, not a swamp. Swamps are defined by having trees, while marsh wetlands typically do not. This presents us with a problem: fuel for fires. Luckily the solution is in the name: peat. Peat is something harvested in history from these places to provide a really efficient source of fuel if dried. Also, it is really good as soil for farming should we need it

>>4063613
+1

>>4063613
Fair enough, anon
but note that this place is swampy as all hell still, this is something I can say from personal experience.
I am using real geography, this is not a fantasy place, keep that in mind

>>4063637
could we use our knowledge og irrigation and canals to divert a couple of entry points of water from entering the swamp? maybe make a couple of new exits as well. i dont mean draining it completely, just get it one step dryer

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>>4063637
Something like this? I agree that it would be a difficult start, but boy would it be hard to attack with horses, and easy to defend with just clubs and spears. Maybe we could drain a portion? Or find islands on the marshlands like the Frisians and Venetians did

>>4063649
yes, like that
we could do that, you'd just have to pick the right decisions for it, we're already halfway there with the whole piles and bridges thing

>>4063645
we are very much able to do so, but couldn't so far, because our building method is too primitive

>>4063607
Seconded, we should probably contact the barbarians after that. We can show off our civilising efforts and warn that the incoming Teutons will push more refugees into their neighbourhood unless they join us in resisting.

>>4063613
>>4063794
Oh shit, I seconded the wrong post. I meant we should harvest peat, the less wood we're burning the more we can use for construction.

>>4063796
>>4063615
>>4063613
Despite the fact we have wood in abundance, it is becoming clearer by the day, that the quite literal lengths we have to go to to access any of it, is quite burdensome on your people. Seeing as you find yourself surrounded by some kind of plant or another, you yourself, chose to try and burn some of it, to no avail however.
Walking around the town, you find a couple of spots with exposed earth. It is dark as night, looks mushy and wet. It's unlike any kind of earth you've seen before. It's texture reminds you of clay, even if it is much heavier. You take some with you and hand it to a potter, you suggest him to try and do something with it, hoping that there's something useful yet in this wasteland.
The next day, the potter comes to you, frantically bowing and asking for forgiveness.
You inquire as to what he did that he so vehemently apologizes. He burned the clay he says. With the gentle confidence of a true king, you remind that that is what clay is for, you shape it and burn it, that's how pottery is made.
The potter however, insists that this is not what he means. He takes you to his workstation and lo and behold, there is a fire burning in his furnace.
You ask where the wood is, he tells you there is none. You look into the furnace, it is the clay.
Though the place is effectively flooded for whatever reason, there it is, a heap of black clay, simply burning, fueling the fire.
This is unheard of and soon, the whole town knows.
Instead of wasting wood for our fires now, we're using the very wasteland we live on instead.

Technology:
>Government - Record keeping
>Industry - Refine turf
Diplomacy:
>Peace - Establish contact
>War - Organize raid
Economy:
>City - Expand infrastructure (Capital)
>City - Stockpile resources (Capital)
>City - Build wall (Capital)
Religion:
>Faith - New ways
Roleplay:
>Public - Carousing
>Public - Hunting
>Personal - Find wife
>Martial - Fitness training
Miscellaneous:
>Write in

>>4063844
>City - Expand infrastructure (Capital)

>>4063847

+1

Given that we've got more wood to go around now that we've got an alternative fuel, expanding our infrastructure ought to be something less of an expense, and will be helpful in properly establishing our position.

>>4063844
>City - Expand infrastructure (Capital)

>>4063844
>City - Expand infrastructure (Capital)
We need to properly establish ourselves before we colonize the valley(and we should do that soon, less someone comes around and cucks us

>>4063844
>>Martial - Fitness training

>>4063844
>City - Expand infrastructure (Capital)

>>4063844
>City - Stockpile resources (Capital)
Was that clay?

>>4063993

No, it was peat.

>>4063993
It's peat, a massive carbon sink as the water is too acidic for the dead moss to be broken down and recycled into the biosphere. There are renewable ways of harvesting it but that's not what we're doing, we're carving up chunks of the temperate rain-forest equivalent in terms of carbon sequestration. Hooray!
>>4063844
>City - Expand infrastructure (Capital)
We could combine this with traps as invaders would be even less comfortable off the paths than we are, by controlling their movements we can hide bridges or stakes.

>>4064006
mean't to say coal, but w/e.

didn't think wet soggy clay like stuff could burn so well.

>>4064012
>>4063960
>>4063883
>>4063858
>>4063850
>>4063847
As the people are beginning to settle in, you notice that dozens of women have gotten pregnant recently. It is a good sign for your people, but you doubt the town can handle many more inhabitants as it is. To counteract this, you figure, we need more space to live on.
You begin to devise a plan on where to build to what. Walking around the town and the unbridged paths, you see the new houses before your inner eye, but new homes alone won't cut it. The potter needs a proper workstation, the woodworkers need a place to practice their new craft, the toolmaker has been idle ever since we came here, and generally we have no real way to store anything in large amounts.
You've already decided that the Toolmaker will get a workshop, no matter what, as such his will take priority.
Though, you fear putting too much pressure on the woodworkers will deteriorate the quality of their work.

As you deliberate on the order of buildings being constructed, your orders to lay the foundations for everything, have already gone out.

>Houses
>Pottery
>Major Storage
>Minor Storages
>Woodshop

>>4064071
>>Woodshop

>>4064071
>Woodshop
Those parents will laugh at their ignorance when they see how vital to our society their layabout sons have become. Should make building a sharpened stake wall easier too, are motte and baileys still state of the art?

>>4064071
>Woodshop

>>4064071

>Woodshop

>>4064077
motes and baileys? what are those? never heard of em, this is 1200 BC

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>>4064081
A precursor to the classic medieval castle that consisted of an outer wall of stakes hiding the settlement and a further wooden keep on an artificial mound. According to wikipedia they were made from the 10th century on and some were build in marshes. Assuming flat ground our swamp stronghold would both be an imposing landmark and offer an unparalleled point of view over the surrounding landscape. Very much a long term project though and moot if we choose to make the river valley our base of operations when we expand into it.

>>4064095
alright, anon, I guess I walked into that one
but for real, the concept is unknown both to us and the entire region we're currently in, due to the time and geography we're in, no one has the population, let alone the central government required, to build any of this
well, except for us, really.

>>4064095

I'm pretty sure he meant never having heard of them less in the literal sense and more in the sense that this being 1200 BC, none of our people would be aware of such a concept, being around over 2000 years before the date you prescribe as when they started to be built.

>>4064071
>Woodshop

After working on infrastructure we need to think on health as well, without germ theory that is. Those newborn will die prettttty quick I fear

>>4064101
New level of bait the fish just walked out of the water and killed itself.

>>4064101
>>4064102
Fair enough, even if it were technologically appropriate I wouldn't expect it to be built in less than a generation. With luck we could plausibly stumble on the idea, building sharpened wooden walls for defence and artificial islands for stability might cause a lightbulb moment somewhere down the line. The idea of being wet Romans, stripping forests for fortresses wherever we go, appeals to me.

>>4064117
not gonna lie, that is a quality shitpost
thank you, anon

>>4064101
You also ascribe me far too much understanding of social nuance, I took the question at face value like the 'sperg I am. Glad you already know what's a motte or not, I was wondering why you'd start a AH quest otherwise.

>>4064114
Of course, can't have people drinking swamp water. What we need is a brewery... berry-wine for everyone!

>>4064129
Supporting!
We need 'em fun juice

>>4064132
However, wanting to keep the internal law of the narrative, I don't think how we can justify eh "hmm yes, let's smash this berries and wait for them to rot"

>>4064133
Same as defensible dirt mounds, we'll just have to wait for some filthy slob to leave his fruity stew out long enough to ferment and then not die after drinking it.

>>4064140
Ye. I wonder what is the alcohol % to keep water from spoiling

>>4064133
Our immune system should be insane compared to most humans now days. We have the PH of a crow so I don't think a healthy man will die from berries.

>>4064149
Very little actually, humans had to specifically breed yeast to excrete more than is needed to inhibit their competitors. Turns out methylation is potent poison and we happen to be very resistant to thanks to our livers, for a while anyway...

>>4064071
woodshop

>>4064152
>>4064150
Ah screw it. Literally. Who cares if one outta ten childs lives past 5 years old. Just have moreq

>>4064071
>Woodshop
Wood for the wood god stakes for the stake throne

>>4064133
We discovered peat fuel through circumstance so it's definitely possible as per >>4064140

>>4064163
What's the mortality rate for women in childbirth during this period? Could be a pretty bad idea if we need 'em to pump out 10 just to have 1 survive. Not to mention the resource drain. Of course, depending on whether we can attract more people here, it may not be that big of a problem.

>>4064156
>>4064113
>>4064079
>>4064078
>>4064077
>>4064075
As construction for the Toolshop begins, you've decided to ease the burden on the woodworkers by having your people build them a workshop of their own. Though the toolshop has a headstart, the constructions are running in parallel due to the immense importance of both.
You wait impatiently for both to finish and sure enough, after a couple of days, they're done.
The toolmaker starts making tools as per the woodworkers requests. It takes another couple days for their arrival, until then more foundations have been laid.
Now the woodworkers are fully decked out with tools and can produce planks and other materials out of wood, far more efficiently than before. They're growing to be a true asset to the kingdom.

>Houses
>Pottery
>Big Storage
>Small Storages

>>4064269

>Pottery

Storage tends to be a fair bit more useful when we actually have a more efficient way of storing things. A more efficient pottery industry should allow for that, not to mention the other myriad benefits it'd provide.

>>4064269
>Pottery
After we get this done, we could probably go for one of the storage options.

>>4064290

Exactly my thinking. Pottery, then big storage, then houses. We can stand a bit of overcrowding for a while if it means otherwise being better prepared for life in this place.

>>4064269
>Pottery

>>4064269
>Pottery

>>4064296
We probably won't feel overcrowding for a while anyway, those women are only visibly pregnant and those kids still have years before we feel the strain on housing. In the meantime, we'll have something worth trading with now. Those barbarian fucks better not try anything, though.

>>4064262
We don't vaccinate.
>>4064163
The weak just die off that's how it is.

>>4064269
Pottery
>>4064296
We'll want to deal with the neighbours and make clear our claims on the valley too. A few earthen jars of berries and some wooden crafts should make for an appropriate show of goodwill.

>>4064269
>Pottery.

Very important for storing and for trading.
NarratorQM, could we get a thorough description of the hunter people our foragers found? If their pointy sticks were shiny or rocky. If they had hides or linen clothing, that sorta stuff

>>4064395
sadly that information doesn't exist to you as it stands. Sharing it would be meta knowledge

>>4064395
>>4064356
>>4064307
>>4064305
>>4064290
>>4064281
Next up on your list is the potter's workshop. It takes quite a bit of extra effort to accommodate for the furnaces and moving the potter's existing equipment there. Previously, because the town was hastily cobbled together, the potter's furnace was located out in the open, where it didn't need a way to get rid of smoke. Now however, we must install some kind of exit-path for the smoke caused by, not one, but four furnaces. The idea is as simple as it is genius, simply make the smoke-hole of the furnace longer and have it stick out the roof.
Putting this idea into practice proved a little challenging, given our general lack of stone, but we managed it somehow.
The woodworkers ask for rest and you grant it to them shortly after construction of the pottingshop was done.
Remaining construction work has been postponed due to general exhaustion.

Technology:
>Government - Record keeping
>Industry - Refine turf
Diplomacy:
>Peace - Establish contact
>War - Organize raid
Economy:
>City - Stockpile resources (Capital)
Religion:
>Faith - New ways
Roleplay:
>Public - Carousing
>Personal - Find wife
Miscellaneous:
>Write in

>>4064525
>Personal - Find wife
We should probably try and get ourselves an heir.

>>4064525
>Industry - Refine turf

>>4064525
>>Faith - New ways

>>4064525
How long's it been since last winter? I'm pretty sure turf can be used for insulation so it might be a good option depending.

Also, I'm thinking a wife may actually be a good option right now too. If the woodworkers can get exhausted, I'm worried our king here can get stressed out. Might be good for him to step back and take a breather.

>>4064545

+1

Loathe as I am to neglect the further development of our land, we've reached a point now where things are stable enough that we can leave them in equilibrium for a little while. Now, it's time to ensure the safety of our future.

>>4064574
this

>>4064579
>>4064545
Guys. Let's leave the wife for when we find the barbarian princess.

>Diplomacy - Establish contact.
We first befriend them, later we raid them. Lastly we enslave them!

>>4064654
I was thinking about keeping marriages for alliances but I'm not sure if our people, after the experience with the horsemen, would be willing to allow barbarian blood in the mix. As king, we can probably just push right through their objections, but I feel like the wisemen and women may fuck with us. And unless I'm reading into it too much, they've got influence.
>They bow before you, and shortly thereafter, the rest of the crowd does as well.

>>4064654
Seconding this.
>>4064669
If they're wise they'll see the prosperity we've led the people to so far. By marrying a barbarian we get an heir (hopefully with hybrid vigour), the expertise of natives and fresh meat-shields to deter the Teutons.

>>4064672
>>4064669

I think we can reduce the wiseass- wise man and woman I mean by introducing religious reforms.

I want to marry a barbarian princess because, besides sounding cool, we really need the locals to figuratively give us the wheel instead of making it ourselves through trial and error.

>>4064525
>Industry - Refine turf

>>4064525
>>Peace - Establish contact

>>4064721
I want to contest this, desu.
Turf is so abundant that I don't see the point. Yes eco-friendly sounds cute but is 1300 BC nibba

>>4064525
>Government - Record keeping
I think it's to early to be thinking of marriage.
Knowing the passage of time would help us keep track of things and organize our society better.

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>>4064077
1200 bc or 12,000 bc? Cause by now most of the old world is bronze age, with the Hittites, Myceneans, egypt, Assyria, Shang in china, and the Olmecs in mesoamerica. If this is the age I think it is, it's time to become the semi-mythical sea-peoples, destroying all those middle-eastern civilizations. Let's go boys!

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>>4065107

Meant >>4064081 not >>4064077

Also, hillforts, which existed 1300 bc onwards are very similar to >>4064095 so that is probably our best bet for forts

>>4065112
Oh, you and your hillforts, anon.

>NarratorQM, can you tell us what season it is? I am thinking it is autumn/spring-ish and the climate is not too cold or rainy.

Why do I worry? Because I can totally see the swamp overflowing and washing the entire kingdom into, well, nothing.

Okay I'll give you all a status update to address all your questions.

>what season is it
it's spring and we've been here for half a year now
>1200 bc or 12000 bc
1200 bc the reason we have to literally reinvent the wheel all the time is because, we are a neolithic people with an unusually advanced state, having been overrun by a bronze-age people
>eco friendly in 1200 bc
we wouldn't be eco friendly, as it stands, we literally chuck wet peat into ovens, that's really inefficient
>wisepeople seem to have power
they do, they are the living embodiment of our venerated ancestors
>worried about floods
we have not experienced a single flood thusfar and the only season we haven't met with yet was summer

Also a quick tally for myself as a crutch
>>4064990
1 for Record keeping
>>4064736
>>4064672
>>4064654
3 for Establish contact
>>4064721
>>4064586
>>4064574
3 for Refine turf
>>4064580
>>4064545
2 for Find wife
>>4064576
1 for New Ways

>>4064574
>>4064586
>>4064721
[This has been enacted due to tie-breaker rule]
With calm returning to the town after a series of building projects that drained our people's goodwill for the time being, there's not a whole lot do to right now.
You visit the potter to request a large pot for your personal berry plant, when you see him playing around with blackclay again.
He greets you and vice versa. The potter excitedly tells you of his recent experiments with blackclay. He left a lump of it in a pot for a while and forgot about the thing, when he came back it was all dried up and hard as stone. He chucked it into the furnace and, not only did it not put his place underwater, it burned far longer than normal.
Now he's seeing if he can't work the blackclay into a more furnace-friendly shape beforehand, and then dry it on purpose with the heat of the furnaces, without actually setting it ablaze.
You watch him do this for a couple of hours, you've got nothing better to do today anyway.
He works the lumps into the shape of a small brick and then dries it by the fire. He put it too close the first time and it started to burn. We quickly put it out and placed it a foot away from the furnace. It seemed to dry pretty quickly.
The potter, amazed by his own find, immediately starts to make more of these blackclay bricks. You say goodbye and go about your day.
Soon, news spreads of the potter's invention and people start trading in their food and services for his bricks.

Technology:
>Government - Record keeping
Diplomacy:
>Peace - Establish contact
>War - Organize raid
Economy:
>City - Stockpile resources (Capital)
Religion:
>Faith - New ways
Roleplay:
>Public - Carousing
>Personal - Find wife
Miscellaneous:
>Write in

>>4065638
>Peace - Establish contact

>>4065638
>>Faith - New ways
people are getting tired of all work, no pray

>>4065689
This

>>4065638
>>Peace - Establish contact

>>4065638
>Personal - Find wife

>>4065638
>Faith - New ways
This would help our people deal with any hard times that may come.

>>4065638
>Peace - Establish contact

>>4065689
>>4065738
>>4065746
>>4065976
After some time alone you came to remember that your warriors told you something about a barbarian people that they met toward the sunset. You spring into action and organize a small party to lead you to the barbarians.
three of the warriors who went with the foragers are to come with you, including the man you designated as head-warrior.
as well as the most beautiful pot we have available, filled to the brim with berries and wrapped up in a bear's fur.
You consult the wisewomen and wisemen to bestow upon you the guidance of the ancestors. They grant you fortune and a boon of charm, before sending you off to your journey to the unknown.
Eagerly, you and your warriors leave the town and head toward the sunset. On this trip you see the river and it's valley for the first time. It is breathtaking, making you wonder why no one bothered to come here before you. You head upstream, back into another marsh, where the river flows through and you cross.
You head back downstream, to where the barbarian hunter was spotted last time. This is where your warriors' wisdom ends as well, and the four of you head into the unknown that lies before you.
Sun is already setting however and you decide to rest here for the night.
At daybreak, you continue your journey and soon after, you stumble across a village.
The people there, dressed in far better clothing than you. It is an ungentle reminder of your current state of poverty. Curiously though, you don't see them wielding clubs or mallets, the few armed people around that you can spot, wield strange sticks made out of a brownish-red rock. This is a color you recognize. Your men however, did not seem to notice and remain undisturbed, you figure it for the better and keep to yourself.
A short while after you've been spotted, just standing there with a strange looking item, someone who you assume to be the leader of this village approaches you.
You exchange words, but none were understood. You lay down the gift and unwrap it, revealing the pot and the berries inside.
You order your men to bow half-way as a sign of good will.
They seemed to understand that. You are received with a warm smile and a gesture to follow this man.
You oblige and follow him to his longhouse. Your warriors are forced to wait outside, this makes you feel somewhat uneasy, given what you know that they don't.
You spend a while exchanging words over a good pot of soup, trying to make sense of each other. Finally, you draw a squiggly line on the ground, to represent the river. The village leader nods. He draws a small circle on his side, representing this village. You do the same on your side, followed by a dotted line across the river.
His hand reaches you to you, you shake it.
While neither understood a single word that was spoken, the exchange brought bountiful understanding regardless.
You and the warriors return home.

>>4066008
Technology:
>Government - Record keeping
Diplomacy:
>Peace - Establish contact
>War - Organize raid
Economy:
>City - Expand infrastructure [Continue]
>City - Stockpile resources (Capital)
>City - Build wall (Capital)
Religion:
>Faith - New ways
Roleplay:
>Public - Carousing
>Personal - Find wife
>Martial - Fitness training
Miscellaneous:
>Write in

>>4066013

Fuck I meant to change "Establish contact" to "Visit neighbor"
my bad for not changing the copypasta

>>4066013
>Peace - Visit neighbour
We're off to a good start, let's see if we can trade their textiles for our woodwork. Ought ti make filtering water easier and help protect against biting bugs.

>>4066008

the seeds our farmers have bring from home are all dead after a year ?

>>4066049
This. Could we try to learn their language? Maybe we could even trade our peat fuel for knowledge on bronze, and possibly to gain some. Trade agreements are necessary in our swampy environment

>>4066013

>Government - Record keeping

Much as I would like to expand our infrastructure, I think we've put enough strain on our people right now. Trade with our neighbours would be good, but it may be best to wait until we're in less of a state of poverty for that.

As it stands, I think it's about time we finally got around to figuring out a way to keep track of things. After all, if we know how much of everything we have, that makes it all the easier to allocate resources efficiently.

>>4066061
nah, we just have nowhere to plant them, they'll survive another couple years

>>4066065
we can, but you ought to know that this is a very long term project, a few years at best, a decade or two at worst.

>>4066068
good thanks


>>4066013
>Write in

Settle our farmers in our side of the river, while still being near our town. The food of their farms will be a welcome addition to our tables and will be much more than what we can make now

>>4066049 +1
>>4066065
>>4066075 language, we can just start the learning process, eventually with trade maybe a marriage or some worker exchange in the future we should be able to at least understand

>>4066013
>>4066067
>>Government - Record keeping
Good point.

>>4066049
support

>>4066013
>Peace - Visit neighbour

>>4066013
>Government - Record keeping

>>4066140
>>4066117
>>4066081
>>4066049
In the following days, you decide to repeat this interaction and once again decide to take a venture to the neighboring village. This time you only bring two warriors instead of three, as a further show of goodwill, along with another gift pot. Knowing the way significantly reduces travel time and you make it there within the day still.
Words are exchanged as usual and nothing was understood. Unlike last time however, you make an active effort to establish basic vocabulary, pointing at things and wait for a response. The village chief eventually catches on and emulates your behavior, by the end of the day you've exchanged names.
You are Aitlaz, he is Morcant
With this, your diplomatic mission ends for the day and you return home during the night.

Technology:
>Government - Record keeping
Economy:
>City - Expand infrastructure [Continue]
>City - Stockpile resources (Capital)
>City - Build wall (Capital)
Religion:
>Faith - New ways
Roleplay:
>Public - Carousing
>Personal - Find wife
>Martial - Fitness training
Miscellaneous:
>Write in

>>4066402
>>City - Expand infrastructure [Continue]

>>4066402
>Personal - Find wife

>>4066402

>City - Expand infrastructure [Continue]


I would prefer to establish proper record keeping, but as it stands it's probably best we finish off sorting things out first before any of that. Just to be sure to be sure.

>>4066402
>>City - Expand infrastructure [Continue]

>>4066423
Ok. We ensure we stop the wet feet and damp bedding trend and then I support you with writing the nibelungenlied

>>4066467
I mean, infrastructure

>>4066402
>City - Expand infrastructure [Continue]

>>4066402
>Government - Record keeping

>>4066402
Expand infraestructure!

Question, can we go full civ like and make side-characters? For the lulz such a wisewoman that hates the king or a kid that explores the swamp or, h*ck the love between a barbarian and a subject of Aitlaz.

Ps: If you google aitlaz, this quest is the third entry

>>4066402
>City - Expand infrastructure [Continue]
We should delete some options.

>>4066402
>Write in

Settle our farmers in our side of the river, while still being near our town. The food of their farms will be a welcome addition to our tables and will be much more than what we can make now

>>4066802
pls no

>>4066825
pls not annoy neighbours just yet

>Faith - New ways

>>4066631
I'm afraid I don't have the writing skills to handle the decisions of multiple characters
and honestly I'm not surprised about the aitlaz thing, because that's not as real name as far as I know

>>4067512
Eks d. Well, the plenty characters is really a different kind of civ, if we do classify your quest as such.

I will come back with thr cringey ideas after more lore develops.

>>4067483

I mean it s in our side of the river and near as we can to our town/village, besides the domesticated seeds we have bring for home will not last decades. So there is just a window of time for them, after that is finding edible species of wild plants and begin again the slow process of their domestication.

>>4066802
>>4066626
>>4066472
>>4066460
>>4066423
>>4066406
After a general time of relaxation for your people, you once again gather the workers and have them bring in materials for the woodworkers, who we've come to call Zuhaibadan.
The zuhaibadan work tirelessly to get the planks done as fast as possible, without major quality losses. They're still trying to figure out how to do that, but every time we put them to work, they make a little more progress.

Unlike last time, we cannot finish building in just a few days, as we lack any stockpiled building material. Felling a sufficient amount trees and getting them to the town, takes up several weeks of work, due to the great distances we have to travel.
The Summer sun is already greeting us, as we finished construction of the great stockpile house. Now with the materials all there, finishing the smaller stockpiles is a matter of just a few days. The new Shorthouses however, pose a different challenge. Though we have the material and manpower required to build them, the future inhabitants don't all want to leave. They insist on staying with their elderly parents. You can force them to move, but that would be a serious breach of tradition.

>let it go
>relocate them

>>4067705
>let it go
But punish their indolence with some hard jobs in the swamp, we need to give off the veneer of a firm ruler

>>4067747
Backing this up

>>4067747
>let it go

>>4067705
>let it go

>>4067873
>>4067845
>>4067785
>>4067747
You drop the issue of people wanting to stay with their parents and instead repurpose the building materials for several of the planned shorthouses, to extend some of the bridges further toward the river valley instead.
Only half of the planned shorthouses were constructed, but aside from you, everyone seems happy with this arrangement.
Now that construction work is complete, we can return our attention to other matters, there a plenty of petty problems "plaguing" our people. You for one, being a king is difficult business, but you never imagined it would be this asinine. Father made it all look so easy, even with the onslaught of the horsemen. Will you ever be as great a man as he?

Technology:
>Government - Record keeping
Economy:
>City - Stockpile resources (Capital)
Religion:
>Faith - New ways
Roleplay:
>Public - Carousing
>Public - Gain favor
>Public - Settle disputes
>Personal - Find wife
>Martial - Fitness training
>Martial - Club practice
Miscellaneous:
>Write in

>>4067904
I just noticed a series of errors in these lines
"there a plenty of petty problems "plaguing" our people. You for one, being a king is difficult business"
it should be
>there are plenty of petty problems "plaguing" our people. You for one knew that, being a king is difficult business

and yes, I do proofread these beforehand, so I'm doubly retarded for letting this slip

>>4067904
>Personal - Find wife

>>4067904
>Government - Record keeping

>>4067904
>Write in

Settle our farmers in our side of the river, while still being near our town. The food of their farms will be a welcome addition to our tables and will be much more than what we can make now

>>4067904
>>Faith - New ways

>>4067941
As promised!

>Record keeping

>>4067904

>Government - Record keeping

>>4067904
>Personal - Find wife

>>4068044
>>4068006
>>4067941
Going about your daily businesses, you find plenty of idle time as usual, wondering about the ongoings of the town. Normally this is not an issue, as you can simply go and ask your subjects what they're doing or what's bothering them, but this seems like something you don't know you could just ask. How do people remember things? You know you can just...remember, it's not that hard, although you are prone to forget things in the heat of the moment, nothing truly gets lost, or does it?
If it did, you'd have no idea. This seems like a slippery slope, one that might cost your people a harvest if it happened to a farmer.
With nothing better to do, you hold an inquiry in your shorthouse. Anyone may come to explain to you how it is possible to remember things that have already been forgotten.
Many show up with vague philosophical answers, that don't really answer your question, but a few people struck you as intriguing. They don't philosophize about the subject, they each present to you a bizarre way to remember things, even those that you have forgotten. They all seem bizarre and dare one say insane, to you, but after having each of them demonstrated, you find each them to be quite effective at their tasks. Results like these are not something you can argue with.

(Pick 1 of each)
Work:
>Speak to stars
>Knot twigs [W]
>Cut circles
Quantity:
>Draw hands
>Knot twigs [Q]
>Make holes
Time:
>Pile stones
>Knot twigs [T]
>Water pots

(Due to the explanations being "off-screen", I'll elaborate the process of an option per request)

Hmm, this is a bit of a toughie.

>Cut circles

This is just a guess really, but it does sound like the most useful of the three work options, so it's what I'll go with.

>Knot twigs [Q]

I could be wrong here, but in South America there was a system of recording numbers and quantities using knots in string called Quipu. Maybe this is something like that? Might not be, but it's a good guess.

>Water pots

This sounds to me a lot like a water clock, something which was an actual historical invention, and seems like it'd be by far the most useful and worthwhile of the timekeeping suggestions.

>>4068178
>Speak to stars
>Draw hands
>Pile stones

i just picked the ones i figure last longest

>>4068178
By draw hands, are we literally drawing them? I figure it might be the first steps to an actual writing system.

>>4068178
>Cut circles
>Draw hands
>Pile stones

>>4068204
draw hands is very literal, yes
one of your subjects keeps track of quantity, by literally just drawing a picture of his fingers on any available surface, when he runs out of fingers on his hands to count.
he does this as many times as he needs it

>>4068213
>i dont have enough fingers so I'll draw more
Fucking incredible. This is the kind of genius we need. I hope this man is given his due of berries.

>>4068178
>Cut circles
I have no fucking clue, but the stars feel like it'll lead to astrology, and I'm not sure about having our people rely on that in the future. The twigs also sounds interesting but probably need more time and resources than just cutting circles. Plus the circles can be seen as a symbol, which also helps with...
>Draw hands
The beginnings of a writing system. Let's get pictographs up in here.
>Water pots
Sounds like a water clock, as stated by anon above.

>>4068210
support

>>4067747
Let it go but, punish them? Jew

>>4068230

On second thoughts, changing to support this one.

>>4068178

>Cut circles
>Draw hands
>Water pots

>>4068194
Seconding, water pots gives spiritual significance to our pottery and watery environment too. This meeting might be mythologised down the generations. The circles are ripples in the water, the knots droplets falling to earth and the swamp itself a measuring cup filled by rains counting the passage of days.

>>4068194
Ooof this one is indeed tough. I will go with anon that write the longest

doing individual vote tallys as a personal crutch for later

CC 6
StS 1
KT [Q] 2
DH 5
WP 5
PS 2

>>4068194
>>4068178

Thirding

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>>4068280
>>4068273
>>4068248
>>4068242
>>4068234
>>4068230
>>4068210
>>4068199
After some serious deliberation, you ask the man who cuts circles into wood, the man who draws hands to count and the woman who lets water drip from one pot to another, to step forward.
Impressed by their talents, you ask them to teach their ways to you and the wisepeople alike.
Circle-man does a lot of walking, walking back and forth, walking in circles. He makes circles for every work.
Hand-man does a lot of counting, does it very fast. He draws right-hand where-ever and counts from thumb to pinky.
Pot-lady has many chores, feed dog, cook food, clean house. Often staying inside, she has no sun to look at, so she listens for water.
Soon, we will all reap the benefits of their ingenuity.

Diplomacy:
>Peace - Visit neighbors
>War - Organize raid
Economy:
>City - Stockpile resources (Capital)
Religion:
>Faith - New ways
Roleplay:
>Public - Carousing
>Public - Gain favor
>Public - Settle disputes
>Personal - Find wife
>Martial - Fitness training
>Martial - Club practice
Miscellaneous:
>Write in

A
A
>>4068436
>Write in

Settle our farmers in our side of the river, while still being near our town. The food of their farms will be a welcome addition to our tables and will be much more than what we can make now


///

Home domesticate seeds status ? One year or dead ?

>>4068444
still alive
they're gonna hold for a couple more seasons, though personally I'd plant them in the winter not summer.

>>4068436

>Personal - Find wife

Seems we've done all we can for now with regards to establishing our place here. We've got record keeping (Or our closest approximation of it anyhow), we're at peace with our neighbours, we've built up our infrastructure. Now is the time to ensure our future. After all, what good is all this if we die with no heir?

>>4068436
Wife mad, nice.
>Martial - Club practice Wrestle

>>4068436
>>Faith - New ways

>>4068436
>Personal - Find wife

>>4068446
Right.
Will the option be there if any of our farmers think it would be a good idea ?


By the way a primitive calendary of sorts is possible with record keeping unlock ?
>>4068444
Change my vote to


>Write in
Make a primitive map on leather of our know world (old home > lands we have travel > new lands). Sign it with the things seen by us, our hunters and scouts.

>>4068468
you're presuming that we have leather.
>calendar
yeah, technically possible
>will the option be available
probably, if it doesn't happen organically

>>4068436
>>Faith - New ways
Best to get started early with this, I think.

>Wife mad
Based.

>>4068472

Then the next best thing would be either :
stone, fur or wood ?

>>4068482
prolly wood, seeing as we're already carving symbols into it

>>4068487


Then i change to wood since we have a good amount of it. Asking for a piece of wood should be possible, granted we don t have many materials for draw the map. Or do we ? Natural painting materials.
Maybe we can just carv on it, but it s not really ideal.


>>4068468
Change to wood for the map

>>4068479
Start faith sound good. Let's not be Jews tho.

>>4068492
Carve it on a plank.

>>4068492
supporting making a map

>>4068436
>>Personal - Find wife

>>4068444
GET

>>4068444
I support trip anon.

Also, i wonder when maps became a thing. Or actual artistic hmm, representations at that. Would it be more realistic to start with other kind of drawing and gylphs before having our primitives coming up with a two dimensional bird view of our land?

another quick crutch tally

Map 3
Wife 3
Club 1
Faith 3

I'll let this particular vote continue for a bit instead of tie breaking it first thing in the morning
perhaps something unexpected happens, who knows

>>4069612
Supporting map

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>>4069629
>>4068760
>>4068564
>>4068492
In another time stretch of general contentment and boredom, you keep thinking what you could do to help your people. In an attempt to be proactive for once instead of asking, you grab an empty record-plank, or Guzbene as you've poetically dubbed it, and begin to cut shapes into it.
A big circle, this is where we are, civilization.
You go outside and walk along the bridges leading out of the town, cutting an approximation of them into the guzbene as you go. Following them to the end, you make sure to note where they go.
Toward the sunrise, you mark down a tree, you can draw trees. This is where the forest is.
Toward the absence you mark down waves. This is where the big water is.
Toward the sunset you mark down waves around land. This is the river.
Toward the sun you mark a smaller circle with little roads. This is the village. The road doesn't actually lead there, but if you go in that direction, you'll find it. Making a bridge that long would be ridiculous.
You add a final touch to your carving by crushing some berries and using their juices as paint.
All done, a picture of the world as you understand it. Surely the wisepeople will love it.

Diplomacy:
>Peace - Visit neighbors
>War - Organize raid
Economy:
>City - Stockpile resources (Capital)
Religion:
>Faith - New ways
Roleplay:
>Public - Carousing
>Public - Gain favor
>Public - Settle disputes
>Personal - Find wife
>Martial - Fitness training
>Martial - Club practice
Miscellaneous:
>Write in

>>4069708
>Write in:
Get some wood workers with Adzes to start carving out some canoes, with even a few war canoes for possible water raids. Fish are abundant in these waters, and soon your boats will be too.

>>4069709
Not to throw you off-groove anon, but despite living on water and having many water sources around us, we're still landlocked.
I don't know how you figure we utilize boats.

>>4069708
>Personal - Find wife

We don t have a long life, i think it could also help in doing certain things if she has some type of knowledge or specializations.
>>4069709

Think of something more simple like using trunks for move around, aided with long sticks.

From there the minds of our people can think of something more complex like several trunks bind together by primitive vegetal fibers or trunks excavated.

>>4069710
>>4069708
Oh, I thought those red things on the map were rivers. Now I'm confused

>>4069708
>>Faith - New ways

>>4069708
>Personal - Find wife

>>4069708
>Martial - Fitness training

>>4069708
>>Faith - New ways

>>4069708

>Personal - Find wife

>>4069708
>Faith - New ways

>>4069946
support

I thought club meant group. Quarter staff would be a good upgrade, not just for combat.

>>4069983
>>4069946
>>4069905
>>4069758
As your people begin to really settle into the land and as the realization sets in that who-or-what ever you previously worshiped has abandoned us in our greatest time of need, has made way for all new sorts of strange customs to fill the void. You observe many of these with your own eyes on a daily basis. Though your people are creative, they're not particularly bent on spreading their newly acquired superstitions among themselves, rather they try to talk you specifically into them. This leaves you with quite a bitter aftertaste of annoyance, every time you interact with one of them, but it gets you thinking. What if you adopted one of these superstitions? As King and savior of your people, you are in a unique position to shape fate like no one before you, to forge not only your people's physical destiny, but their spiritual as well. The people revere you, no doubt, perhaps they could revere you even more if you gave them a good reason to?
This thought intrigues you and you order the wisepeople to discretely gather as much information on the largest cults in the town and bring it to you.
Their findings are quite an earful.

(normally this would be cheating, but all of these decisions are modular with sub-decisions, I suggest additional care)

>Animals
>Spirits
>Sky
>Nature
>King

>>4070078
>>Animals

King

>>4070078

>King

As the king, this feels as though it ought to be the most significant of them.

>>4070078
>>King
Maybe a bit too on the nose as far as grabs for power goes, but I feel like the rest can be interpreted by those like, say, the wisepeople, to pursue their own goals. Put faith directly toward the king and we avoid this. And as long as we control the current King, corruption isn't a problem. How detailed can the sub-decisions be, though? Can we describe what the system would be like? I want to avoid a Mandate of Heaven scenario where people start thinking that the "King" clearly isn't meant to be "King" after fuck-ups and natural disasters.

>>4070078
>Nature/Sky
As I said here >>4068248 I think water's a cool focus for worship. All life arose from the primal deep and days are measured in the flow of rains and rivers. What is man but a drop in the ocean? Moment by moment we split mountains and deposit fresh land, so the gods of the people themselves are remade, baptised as something new.

>>4070078
>Spirits
And /or
>Nature

>>4070107
>>4070104
guys, please, pick 1, don't make my job harder

>>4070078
>King

>>4070103
everything is a soft tech-tree in a sense
one decisions leads into another and so on
though I don't write them down, I do have ideas already planned ahead for every option I provide and how this affects you in the long run if X Y or Z happens.
and I do mean EVERY option, even the RP ones.
So while a "mandate of heaven" is definitely possible, this is not something I would ever outright state as a decision, nor is it inevitable for any one option you chose leading up to it
it's all up to you

if I had to name this approach to gameplay, I'd call it a CivYOA
I am merely a vehicle for your alt-history shitposts.

>>4070111
>>4070107
>Nature

>>4070078
>Sky

>>4070100
While you warship yourself I will worship what made you. For that is where you go in death.

>>4070078
>Nature
I think calling ourselfs a god could alienate other toward us, like the barbarian people. Plus it could screw us a lot if we fail to play the part.

>>4070078
>King

>>4070078
>>King

>>4070104
>>4070132
>Nature

>>4070700
I'm with the nature chads. When the king eats shit we can just take over.

>>4070732
>When the king eats shit
I'm sorry to have to be the one to inform of you this, anon, but WE'RE the king.

>>4070758
Not for long.

>>4070758
We can RP as wise men. We are a whole civ.

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>>4070078
>King

>>4070809
Out live nature.

>>4070808
oooh I like that idea of RP

>>4070078
>King

Foolish people. They don't know the king's true form is a collective of otherworldly beings from a race of humanoids that explores the stars and shapes the land as they see fit. Only WE know what's best