Poopy

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well I hope we're all learning our lesson here regarding Fae shit.

you don't fuck around with it.

>>4057177
Learning our lesson? Where do you think you are?

>>4057179
good point, we're still arguing about Rosseau dying.

Just I thought of a few things that would make the DC easier or could have us a safe. Desperate I know, but I want to try.

Our multiple animal companions
The basilisk we fought together
The food we share with her at camp
The Ursen token and blessing

>>4057177
What? I thought [Platonic] option won...

>>4057182
>The Ursen token and blessing

I'd argue this would make the DC harder considering her apparent dislike of the rest of the Fae

>>4057184
platonic won but with a double fail

>>4057182
Let's not.At that point people are just going to be begging whenever we have a bad roll.

>>4057184
It did we're still interacting with someone involved in a ritual though

>>4057185
Ursen isn't fae and we don't know what she thinks on other fae.

>>4057187
Sorry I meant crit fail

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>>4057182
>The Ursen token and blessing

Hmmm. Well the others I took into account (i.e. your Griffinhawk imprint at the first encounter). But it has been established that the Bear Totem has some limited measure of dispelling Fae fuckery.

Tell you what, if you can pass the activation for it I will allow the effects of Battered to last only the rest of the evening.

Activate Bear Totem
>DC 50

1 roll of 1d100, first come first served.

Rolled 22 (1d100)

>>4057193

Rolled 46 (1d100)

>>4057193

Rolled 38 (1d100)

>>4057193
bear help Emile

>>4057192
Just a double fail, not a critical fail. You were right the first time.

>>4057185
True, she mention something about a the old castes. Hopefully the greater animals stand outside of it.

>>4057194
DUBS! Thank you Heir of Ursen bear bro! This is definitely more useful than a mere lucky charm.

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>>4057194
Yeah okay, well done knigga.

Your sperm count still takes a hit tho

>>4057200
>Your sperm count still takes a hit tho
OOF

>>4057200
>Your sperm count still takes a hit tho
Seriously? Is that permanent? If not then for how long? It was just a double fail.

>>4057203
We've known about the effects of magic since pretty much day one. Forgotten has never hidden the fact from the players that magic makes people sterile. Doesn't even require bad rolls, it's just a fact of using and being around magic

>>4057193
>>4057194
Yeah I helped

>>4057206
Yeah but it was still just a double fail. A permanent or very long effect should be a critfail.

>>4057211
It's got nothing to do with double fails or crit fails or any sort of failure or success. It's the act of using magical items and having them near us that intrinsically causes us to - slowly over time - become sterile/gain health issues. It's been a known fact from the start

>>4057200
It's okay that means more sexy time with the wife to have a kid am I right /s

>>4057203
an apt description is like radiation, a single burst will lower it but you can recover, sustained exposure will permanently lower it and a high burst or high enough levels will cause irreparable damage that ranges from severe impairment to complete sterility.

where we stands on that scale I have no idea.

The biggest BS is that the DC was 65 and the was 66. All our reolls became invalid with a single number difference to succeed. Literally the dice gods trolling us again. it least it wasn't consecutive critfails like last time.

Imagine however if we picked courting the fae queen or widow and got that double fail. The results could have been worse. We made made the right choice and dodged a bullet.

>>4057212
That still doesn't change my point that it shouldn't be a permanent or very long effect over just a double fail. We're not even the one using magic here. She is. It shouldn't even have that effect on us.

>>4057216
That's a really good way of thinking about it.

To continue on this train of though we need to consider that we've been carrying a luck charm for quite a while. We've now also been in a Fae city for a few days, had healing magic directly applied to us, we were enthralled by the Seer, and then had that dispelled by more magic from the Ursen who then provided us with a more powerful charm. And that's just what I can think of off the top of my head. That's a lot of magic

>>4057217
>Imagine however if we picked courting the fae queen or widow and got that double fail.

Man I don't even want to think about that, that would have been some bad shit

>>4057217
fae warlock anon the queen was just a elusion of fae fuckery

>>4057221
> We're not even the one using magic here. She is. It shouldn't even have that effect on us.

Dude stop crying. Think of it like how >>4057216
put it and then consider that this isn't the effect of a single bit of magic, it's the buildup of being in contact with low levels of magic for quite a while and a few bursts of higher level magic. We're literally inside a Fae city, it's likely a hub of radiant magic.

Either way though, it is what it is. We can't change it, we just have to roll with it, accept it and move on. Assuming Forgotten was even being serious (which I hope he was, actions have consequences)

>>4057201
>>4057203
I am mostly joking

>>4057225
I'm not ''crying''. I'm stating valid points. She is the one using magic not us. The effect isn't from the fae city. It's supposed to be from the ritual. How the hell could it have a permanent/long consequence when we aren't even the one using the magic? It doesn't even have anything to do with our actions.

>>4057228
Thank the Almighty.

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To the West, The Ruins - The Second Herald

“The Romani are a deeply religious folk, they will side with Her Majesty when the time comes.”

The Second Herald frowned. He was not so sure of that statement as the First seemed to be. “Their women weave a separate tangle of alliances entirely from what we see on the surface. The men are brave and pious true, I’ve seen good enough examples of that myself, but if we want to secure Romani support in the political sphere it is the Ladies of the Houses we should be approaching, not the Lords.”

”You can continue your games later. We have more pressing concerns now that the Son of Sin, curse his black unholy soul to the depths of the Pit, is once again restrained.” The Third Herald was the most straightforward and stoutest of all of them present, and such plotting sat ill with him. His honest mouth and honourable manner is why the Queen first loved him so, but it has served him ill when truly putting the Queen’s interests first. “The Order of Names are still hunting down those we routed, but the Langlish survivors have reformed and returned to Pascae borders. The turncoat lordlings would not have been so foolish to tell them everything, but they can probably tell the difference between a Ranger and a Reginate. This many armed men, good men not prone to wagging tongues, will raise eyebrows the longer we keep them under arms.”

[1/2]

>>4057225
to be fair their is no proof of that unless Canton has magical geiger counters which I doubt, this hit to battered implies this is the single dose and not our stay in the Fae enclave.

anyway I remain optomistic about our recovery from this if we survive Fallavon I'd just caution against further interaction with magic

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>>4057228
>Mostly

>>4057228
I don't believe you

>>4057229
> I'm stating valid points

Not really dude

>The effect isn't from the fae city. It's supposed to be from the ritual.

The city was an example, but hey cool, ignore all the other magic shit we've been exposed to.

>How the hell could it have a permanent/long consequence when we aren't even the one using the magic? It doesn't even have anything to do with our actions.

That's been stated already, being exposed to magic has an effect on humans.

>>4057231
>to be fair their is no proof of that unless Canton

Nothing scientific yeah but there has been a pattern of heavy magic users become sterile throughout Canton history

>>4057229
>How the hell could it have a permanent/long consequence when we aren't even the one using the magic?

Because it is magical radiation, you don't have to be holding the activated Uranium rod to be exposed to the radiation from it.

>>4057228
>mostly

the brothers were right all witches must burn!

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>>4057230

[2/2]

“The Order of Names in another brushfire skirmish with the Bluejays is explanation enough.” The First Herald snorts. He is the dangerous kind of man, one who mistakes ruthlessness for effectiveness. It is a wonder what the Queen sees in him, but even blunt instruments supposedly have their uses.

”The Order Reginae has never bothered with the movements of petty outlaws. Even in the War of Borders when Bluejays were sacking ill-guarded castles they were never a true threat to the realm.” The Second Herald knows his is often dismissed as the voice of argument, even when the First makes valid points. But someone has to act as a counterweight, and the Third would not stoop to such a role. “A reason for our direct involvement must be procured.”

The Third Herald rubs his growing bristle ruefully. Thinking the matter over, or regretting his loss of Her Majesty's favour following his last 'indiscretion' over honour? ”Among our own men, those not of the inner circle, there is already talk of foreigners and Fae in conspiring to launch a second War of Borders.”

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> “It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]

> “Let the people believe the Bluejays truly are such a threat as to warrant royal involvement. We can rally the nearby lords from the west and east to lend support and drive out the threat.” It does not matter whether it is common outlaws or illegal settlements, they have relinquished the right to call themselves the Queen’s subjects. [Taciturn]

> “A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

>>4057235
>The city was an example, but hey cool, ignore all the other magic shit we've been exposed to.

It's a bullshit example. All of our companions, Wytes, Norsikaans, beastmen, etc have been in the city and it didn't affect them. Forgotten never stated or hinted tatt merely being at a fae city does anything. You 100% made that up.

>That's been stated already, being exposed to magic has an effect on humans.

It still should not have anywhere a permanent/long effect like you think.

>>4057237
>> “A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

>>4057237
>> “It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]

>>4057237
> “Let the people believe the Bluejays truly are such a threat as to warrant royal involvement. We can rally the nearby lords from the west and east to lend support and drive out the threat.” It does not matter whether it is common outlaws or illegal settlements, they have relinquished the right to call themselves the Queen’s subjects. [Taciturn]

On one hand I like the predictable bruatality of this one

> “A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

On the other I like how close this option gets to the truth of it.

Priority in order

>>4057237
>“It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]


>“A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

>>4057237
>> “It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]
Nothing to unite a kingdom more than a crusade against the heathen

>>4057239
Far out mate. Yes I made up an example to explain a point. I didn't say "this is exactly what happened". I'm not Forgotten, I don't decree things. I was using being in a Fae city of an example of how we may have been exposed to more Fae magic than we realised.

>It's a bullshit example. All of our companions, Wytes, Norsikaans, beastmen, etc have been in the city and it didn't affect them.

Go ahead and point to where that has been stated. Take your time. You bitch about me making shit up and then you come out with this? Absurd. It isn't as if magic makes people glow mate and we've not seen any pregnancy among the Wytes have we? We don't know how affected they are, we don't know how many magical artifacts they carry around. You seem to be ignoring the fact that my main reference has been to magic being used on and around us being the cause of it.

>It still should not have anywhere a permanent/long effect like you think.

10/10 opinion, please have more of them.

Anyway, I'm done responding to you, this is only turning into a shit fight which will ruin the thread and piss of Forgotten so lets call it here. We obviously aren't going to agree and I'm struggling to avoid name calling and shit

>>4057237
>“A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

>>4057237
> “A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

>>4057237
>“It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]

>>4057252
>It isn't as if magic makes people glow mate
This makes me wonder about overdoses of magical radiation making people glow, also if their is a spell equatable to D&D's faerie fire

>we've not seen any pregnancy among the Wytes have we? We don't know how affected they are

I'm just going to point out this is a Fae city not a human one, the larger human population in these woods is set up in illegal settlements all over and likely don't really interact with the Fae or magic outside of Fae involving themselves or some Innawoods shit.

the reason Sam and the other bluejays are here because its point one of contact with the Fae and a place to resupply and regroup without fear of being traced back to home also they are in cahoots with the Fae and given the presence at the ruins and what we found everyone wants to know about why such a large force is here.

>>4057237
>“A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

>>4057237

> “It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]

>>4057237
>> “It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]

Aye new thread

>>4057237
> “Let the people believe the Bluejays truly are such a threat as to warrant royal involvement. We can rally the nearby lords from the west and east to lend support and drive out the threat.” It does not matter whether it is common outlaws or illegal settlements, they have relinquished the right to call themselves the Queen’s subjects. [Taciturn]
I think this works best.

>>4057237
So the choices are
>Start a war with Norsikaa
>Start a war with the Bluejays
>Condemn some Noble houses

>>4057269
I think it's more

>start a brushfire conflict with Norsikans escalation possible but not necessarily
>esclate brushfire conflict with Bluejays to border skirmish escalation possible if bluejays can escalate.
>Blame some noble factions and escalate internal tensions with regards to Queensman/Kingsman conflict.

>>4057237
>> “Let the people believe the Bluejays truly are such a threat as to warrant royal involvement. We can rally the nearby lords from the west and east to lend support and drive out the threat.” It does not matter whether it is common outlaws or illegal settlements, they have relinquished the right to call themselves the Queen’s subjects. [Taciturn]

>>4057237
>> “A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

>>4057237
>“It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]

>>4057237
Oh shit, letting us go costed Lord Kasper Alexandi his post as second herald. I hope that we can prove his decision the right one in the future.

>>4057237
>> “A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

They will plead their innocence - which only ever serves to deepen the look of guilt.

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>>4057237
hmmmm....
> “A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]
why

>>4057237

> “A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

This is an interesting choice

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>>4057237
>> “A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

1st post of thread i think

>>4057252
>Far out mate. Yes I made up an example to explain a point. I didn't say "this is exactly what happened". I'm not Forgotten, I don't decree things. I was using being in a Fae city of an example of how we may have been exposed to more Fae magic than we realised.

Yeah you made up a bullshit example and tried to pass it as an excuse to why we should lose our fertility permanently/for long. Actions have consequnces? What nonsense. We aren't eve the one using magic. How could it be a consequence of our action.

>>4057252
>Go ahead and point to where that has been stated. Take your time. You bitch about me making shit up and then you come out with this? Absurd. It isn't as if magic makes people glow mate and we've not seen any pregnancy among the Wytes have we? We don't know how affected they are, we don't know how many magical artifacts they carry around. You seem to be ignoring the fact that my main reference has been to magic being used on and around us being the cause of it.

It's never been stated because your example is utter bullshit. No where is it ever stated or hinted that being at a fae city or just being near magic affects your fertility. Everybody in the fae city (Wytes, fae, beastmen, companions, Norsikaans, etc) has't been affected yet we do? That's bullshit you made up. That's why it's never stated.

>10/10 opinion, please have more of them.

And your bullshit example is 100% opinion.

I'm done responding to you too now.

>>4057236
>Because it is magical radiation, you don't have to be holding the activated Uranium rod to be exposed to the radiation from it.

That's something you came up with and is never shown anywhere. The fertility effects would've been from the ritual not the city. A double fail shouldn't result in a permanent fertility loss or for long simply for being near it.

>>4057237
> “A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]
an interesting option

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>>2980872

>Yes, there is even a Sorceress in the King's Court. Technically speaking, all use of Old Magic is unlawful and only the most highly constrained uses of it are permitted and rarely in the open.

In-character the miracles performed by Adam and Cain's mother (Salve Reginae) were holy miracles and NOT magic. People have been burnt at the stake for even suggesting such.

High tier expensive/quest items are magical in nature and OP as fuck, but extended use shortens your lifespan and makes you sterile.

>Yes, there is even a Sorceress in the King's Court. Technically speaking, all use of Old Magic is unlawful and only the most highly constrained uses of it are permitted and rarely in the open.

>In-character the miracles performed by Adam and Cain's mother (Salve Reginae) were holy miracles and NOT magic. People have been burnt at the stake for even suggesting such.

>High tier expensive/quest items are magical in nature and OP as fuck, but extended use shortens your lifespan and makes you sterile.

No where in any of this post is it ever stated that being near anything magical affects you. Only thing it says is that extended use shortens lifespan as well as lowers fertility.

>>4057311
I was going to bite the bait and try to have a conversation that didn't involve flatout denial with you but clearly there is no worth in it considering how readily you dismiss a statment from forgotten himself about how magic interacts with humans.

>>4057279
What? Pretty sure this prompt is from his point of view

>>4057237
> “A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

Lucky for him Damien *actually* is guilty of participating in treason against the slave for helping the Jays.

Lucky him.

>>4057306
>>4057311
>Old Magic

What is the difference between new and old magic?

Also guys your argument is literally pointless. Forgotten already said he was joking and messing with us. Simply being near magic or using it for a short period of time won't do anything. We will have to actually use magic for a decently long amount of time before its negative effects on fertility and lifespan start appearing.

>>4057321
Pretty sure it's just the difference between Fae magic (Old magic) and Reginae/Adam and Cain "Miracles" (Same shit but re-branded)

>>4057314
I'm not denying or dismissing anything from Forgotten. I'm dismissing the crap you made up. No where is stated in that post that being close to magic affects you. Only thing it addresses is what happens when you use it for a long time.

>>4057321
I'd say the difference between old and new magic is basically a deliniation between magic that existed before Canton and Feudalism and what came after

Old magic
>Fae magic
>Ursen's boon and other native Canton pagan animal totemism
>Norsikan paganism
>hedge witchery
>Carthaggi magic?

New magic
>the Scholarly instituion of sorcery in Canton
>The divine magic of the allmighty and his saints
>Carthaggi magic?

though this is some guesswork and not at all a given unless we know more

>>4057323
you are dismissing the evidence and litreally any argument given including the one here >>4057306 which is a quote from forgotten as inadmissable despite it being a direct quote from him that high levels of magical exposure particularly in the extreme range is readily corrolateable by Canton laymen and scholars as a source of shortened lifespans and sterility.

Furthermore the direct implicit nature of that quote is that magic does affect you though the observable effects are only largely known at the highest levels, given this would be more in the nature of pure speculation if quotes from Forgotten such as >>4057200 hadn't given creedance to the idea that its effects are relatively similar to radiation if as nothing more than a useful comparison to understand the interactions and its consequences of use, if that isn't to your likeing as a method of understanding the relationship humans have with it it I'd love to hear what your metaphor would be but given your pigheaded stubborness at recourse I doubt you have one.

Prove me wrong though please and turn this into an actual conversation rather than a rebuttal.

>>4057237
> “Let the people believe the Bluejays truly are such a threat as to warrant royal involvement. We can rally the nearby lords from the west and east to lend support and drive out the threat.” It does not matter whether it is common outlaws or illegal settlements, they have relinquished the right to call themselves the Queen’s subjects. [Taciturn]

>>4057329
There are no evidence whatsoever of magic affecting you simply for being near it. Nowhere in that quote is it stated that magic affects you by being near it.

>direct quote from him that high levels of magical exposure particularly in the extreme range is readily corrolateable by Canton laymen and scholars as a source of shortened lifespans and sterility.

Why are you lying and making shit up? The only thing that is stated about Cantonians in that quote is that they don't allow public use of magic. That is not evidence of your crap. Nowhere is it stated that magic exposure affects you. You made that crap up. No Canton layman or scholar or whatever says anything about magic exposure. You're using weasel words. There is nothing implicit in there. I don't care about your false interpretation.

>Furthermore the direct implicit nature of that quote is that magic does affect you though the observable effects are only largely known at the highest levels, given this would be more in the nature of pure speculation if quotes from Forgotten such as >>4057200 hadn't given creedance to the idea that its effects are relatively similar to radiation if as nothing more than a useful comparison to understand the interactions and its consequences of use, if that isn't to your likeing as a method of understanding the relationship humans have with it it I'd love to hear what your metaphor would be but given your pigheaded stubborness at recourse I doubt you have one.

I don't give a fuck about your speculation and assumptions on that quote. You made up some bullshit and said that quote supports you when it absolutely doesn't. There are no observable effects. The only thing that is said in that post is that extended use affects you. Nothing is said about exposure to it.

Come on show me evidence of your absolute bullshit because that quote sure as hell doesn't.

Radiation my ass.

>new thread and they're already arguing
is this a part of the experience?

>>4057340
okay cool I'm done I have neither the time or the desire to further this with you anon given your response.

>>4057341
It wouldn't be the Sworn to Valor if arguing to the point of redundancy wasn't a F E A T U R E

>>4057314
I believe everything you said up to "bait".

Your own quote here >>4057306 not only doesn't mention proximity being harmful, it also specifically refers to high tier magical items.

Maybe just don't start this fight. Just wait for Forgotten to be more specific about it. Even the "makes you sterile" was spoilered so honestly it could be a joke.

Funny thing to note, your initual comparison to radiation? It literally can't be more wrong. 1Sv is a lethal dose, but the yearly limit for a person is 25Sv. Background radiation is a constant at 300mSv, and 100mSv in addition to that is the threshold for radiation poisoning if exposed all at once. Xrays cause about .1mSv of radiation, a chest CT about 7mSv.

The risk with lower levels of radiation is the possibility of contamination, where it somhow gets into your system and becomes trapped in the body and builds up to dnagerous levels.

If the magic has any radiating qualities, so long as we don't decide to suddenly eat a large amount of magical items or implant them in our body, then we're fine.

>>4057343
And just as expected you showed zero evidence of your assumptions. You tried to falsely pass up a quote that makes no address towards exposure as proof. I'll even examine the quote to find your evidence.

>Yes, there is even a Sorceress in the King's Court. Technically speaking, all use of Old Magic is unlawful and only the most highly constrained uses of it are permitted and rarely in the open.

The King is a heretic who allows the presence of magic at his court. Old Magic is stated to be unlwaful and its use is only permitted in private and rarely in public. Zero statements on the effects of exposure to magic here.

>In-character the miracles performed by Adam and Cain's mother (Salve Reginae) were holy miracles and NOT magic. People have been burnt at the stake for even suggesting such.

In-character the miracles of Salve Regina are holy miracles and not magic. Believing such gets you burnt at the stake. Zero statements on the effects of exposure to magic here.

>High tier expensive/quest items are magical in nature and OP as fuck, but extended use shortens your lifespan and makes you sterile.

Items that are magical in nature are overpowered, but extended use of them lowers your fertility and shortens your lifespan. Zero statements on the effects of exposure to magic here.

>>4057348
okay first off >>4057306 is not me it's another poster, secondly if sterility and a shortened lifespan recognisable by feudal scholars isn't harmful what is?

>Maybe just don't start this fight. Just wait for Forgotten to be more specific about it

please read the history of this argument I didn't throw the first stone I merely stepped into the shitflinging much to my current regret, I'll gladly wait till forgotten clarifies shit but I highly doubt that it was spoilered as a joke but rather as meta knowledge.

>Funny thing to note, your initual comparison to radiation? It literally can't be more wrong

I'll admit if we are talking actual radiation as it is in our world thats far beyond my knowledge I wasn't really trying to make a 1:1 comparison more of a broadstrokes I.E: A OP magic sword eminates radiation much like a active uranium rod would and that constitent exposure to magic or simply enough of it is grounds for harmful consequences.

>>4057364
>eminates radiation

magic*

>>4057340
So hey. For Damien, what do you think of sending him home on a boat, Dan Marc by land with a letter, while we head onwards to Cathagi.

I feel that if we abandon our Pilgrimage, and especially our mission to escort the Pilgrims, it will make us lose support from the Knight orders and make them distrustful us. If we return home with Damien, we don't really make his trip any safer. If we end up openly fighting against the Queensmen we'll lose, and Emile doesn't have any way to contrubute to clearing Damiens name.

Whereas if we continue on with our Pilgrimage, we will have succeeded in doing a service for the Knights Comitas, in addition to fulfillig the expectation of pious that a Knight should have towards the Faith. I really don't think we can afford to be in a position where our character is also under suspicion.

Also, if we go to Cathagi we can join the Dragon Guard. It's a prestigous position that doesn't have any stigma for holding, and additionally it pays well. We can send wealth home to help support our parents efforts to block the Queensmen from creating a situation where they can legally take Damien away. As well, if our reputation remains high then people who are worried about having a lord that might harbor treasonous thoughts or heretical beliefs has a brother who is pious in his pilgrimage, who is dutiful in performing tasks required to protect the people of Canton, and who has a prestigous achievement of becoming a Dragon Guard that proves he is capable in battle as well as able to gain the good will from foreign Nobles.

That way, our followers who are concerned about what will happen if their next Lord is actually treasonous or harbors heretical habits can be reassured that if it comes to it there is someone able to step in and take over.

As well, it will make our supporting him remaining as the Heir and being unjustly accused much more believable.

Whereas if we give up on our pilgrimage, which is an act of Faith, and abandon our duty Knight to protect the Pilgrims on their journey, to return home impoverished clinging to our brothers side, well. That definitely won't look good.

It will make him look like he's guilty to some degree, it's not like people know that the Order of Names is on a killing spree. It'll just make Damien look crazy if he tries to claim they're trying to kill hin for any reason other than having proof of his treason. People will also have to ask themselves where the future of the Andreis is, if one brother is a traitor and the other abandoned his duty and faith to protect his brother, showing up having lost his sword, his shield, and his coin. It might look like we were actually returning in failure to hide using our brothers situation as an excuse.

Oh yeah, there's also the Fae outcast who we promised to take as a follower. That will go over great.

I feel that there'a simply no benefit to returning home given our obligations and our current status.

>>4057391
>So hey. For Damien, what do you think of sending him home on a boat, Dan Marc by land with a letter, while we head onwards to Cathagi.

I think this is a good idea but let's reach the pilgrims in time first before discussing anything on our pilgrimage, Damien, Dan Marc, etc. We have 12 days to come back.

Not only will Emile go back through territory he has already traversed, but he'll also have two guides (fae girl and otterfolk guide). The pathfinding and tracking should be much easier on the way back than it was on arrival.

We should also focus on maintaining our oaths of secrecy to Kasper and Sam. We'll be in big trouble if our involvement in the Secret War and the Wytes is revealed.

>>4057400
Right now I'd rather send the both of them back together and make sure Sir dan Marc keeps an eye on him.

>>4057364
>>4057236

You used comparing it to radiation to defend it as being dangerous in proximity, not just by use.

>>4057329


This is where you claimed that chronic exposure would "permanently lower" our sterility if it acted similar to radiation

>>4057216
This is where you doubled down claiming that Forgotten had in your own words "hadn't given creedance to the idea that its effects are relatively similar to radiation". You then claimed that it was merely a useful analogy however that means that since it didn't actually necessarily work like radiation then there's no actual evidence to support it causing our virility to decline from low levels of exposure.

Although actually if it did work like radiation that would explain why it affects sorcerers, if casting magic instead of merely using it through the medium of totems and runes and charma involves having the magic enter your body directly it could build up the same way radioactive material can when a person is contaminated by radioactive material.

You're extrapolating based on an incorrect belief about how radiation affects people that the statement that exposure to high magic levels being harmful means that exposure to lower levels and outside the body would eventually cause the same results.

Forgotten has said nothing about how magic works at low levels. It's entirely possible that outside of a container to maintain its concentration it rapidly decays or disperses. Or that humans are unable to easily absorb it in the first place, which would make sense given how they aren't able to use it without significant training, effort, and tools. So it's entirely possible that without reaching a certain amount of density that it simply bounces off people, or alternatively passes directly through them.

Which is also what different types of radiation does. Alpha radiation is heavy and easily stopped by skin, but can cause damage if ingested because it can't escape and will build up. Beta radiation can pass through skin, but it also disperses quickly when released so without being concentrated it's not harmful. Gamma radiation is dangerous though, it's energetic enough to pass through people without dispersing and damaging them in the short time it takes. Neutron energy is so energetic that it passes through before it can lose any energy that would harm.

If magic *does* work like radiation, it would make sense to have lower levels be harmless, more energitic magic be harmful to be exposed to, while high magic would be able to disrupt our DNA throughout our body by its presence.

And if it doesn't work like radiation then there's no justification to speculate that the effects of High magic exposure are predictive of other types of exposure.

>>4057404
But Dan Marc isn't loyal, and the Queensmen are guarding the roads. Our mother specifically warned us in her letter against returning that way.

>>4057400
Fair enough. However it will be much more difficult to return by road as the Queensmen solidify their presence in Mott-Fallon now they have won control of the pit where the Son of Sin was, as well as Emile overheard the 2nd pillar insist on executing the no witnesses order without compromise to exterminat the Jays agains Sir Gilberns objections. Not only will they be able to consolidate their presence, but any aid from the Jays for Damien will be less likely. Honestly I'm worried that if they are being too severely pressed Damien might actually decide to join them or try to bring them along.

If people really insist on travelling overland, then it should be done immediately. Thay would also mean however that it would be difficult to regain Dan Marcs loyalty enough to trust him to not report Damien to the proper authorities as a Knight is obligated to do. He owes us, not our brother, and we didn't have anything to do with the Jays or Fae until Damien dragged us in.

As well, they longer we take the less time we have for Damien to take a ship home ahead of us while we act to delay pursuit and confuse investigations.

>>4057237
>“It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]

>>4057237
>> “A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

>> “It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]

>>4057237
>> “It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]
DEUS VULT

>>4057415
How about taking Damien along with us for a while? Just until the capital or Pascae where he can take a ship to Romaine or until we know more about the situation back home.

>>4057237
>> “It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]

>>4057237
> “Let the people believe the Bluejays truly are such a threat as to warrant royal involvement. We can rally the nearby lords from the west and east to lend support and drive out the threat.” It does not matter whether it is common outlaws or illegal settlements, they have relinquished the right to call themselves the Queen’s subjects. [Taciturn

Honestly the Cynic choice makes me wonder which side our parents would throw in their support with

>>4057237
>> “It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]

>>4057237
> “A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

>>4057237
> “It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]
another skaldening, when?

>>4057544
Well, I mean sure that works for me since that works for what I feel is the optimal plan.

I don't have strong feelings about this one but if we consider the potential consequences as >>4057269 >>4057271 have we can assume that...

Attacking the Norsikans settlements might cause retaliation raiding along the coasts of Canton.

Taking the field in force against the Bluejays might intentionally involve the fae into the conflict.

Scapegoating a noble house might drag the secrete war into open conflict.

What a troublesome choice.

>>4057237
>> “It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]

>>4057237
>> “Let the people believe the Bluejays truly are such a threat as to warrant royal involvement. We can rally the nearby lords from the west and east to lend support and drive out the threat.” It does not matter whether it is common outlaws or illegal settlements, they have relinquished the right to call themselves the Queen’s subjects. [Taciturn]
Changing to this.

>>4057613
ignore this post.

>>4058156
If interrogated the bluejays might rat out Emile. Or might give up information to prevent conflict. I was pretty torn on this because we just couldn't get to a common ground with them. I would like to see the Wytes get stomped but it's probably best if they fade away.

Tanking a few Noble houses could have ramifications for us as well. Glasdale is a friend. Hewitt is a copper-clipper so he can go to hell. Alderauge is still a relative unknown.

Conflict with Norsikaa doesn't have much downside that I see. Opportunities for glory really

>>4058256
Conflict with Norsikaa might make the crossing even harder, and with nunneries getting attacked in southern isles of Romaine I dread to think what might happen if ships they have a drawn elsewhere to counter the Norsikaans.

>>4057237
>> “It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]

>>4058156
>there is already talk of foreigners and Fae in conspiring to launch a second War of Borders.”
>foreigners and fae
the fae might get involved in this war, not only they're is gonna be a war on their lands and they will have to do something in the banquet there was a norsikan representative that will imply that the norsikan could ask the fae for help on this war maybe

>>4057237
> “It need not be a lie. The kingdom’s grip on the north coast communities grows feebler each passing year. Bringing one of their enclaves to heel will serve as a decent cover while also sending a message to foreign powers.” The north coast was a launchpad of the Norsikaan incursions in the War of Borders, it will not be so again. [Haughty]

>>4057237
> “A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

>average 25 votes each update
>first update new thread 37 votes

Yeah, righto...

Still, I can hardly call foul play given everyone is going to be 1 post IDs.

> “A scapegoat then. Some noble house that lent the Bluejays support. That level of treachery would be enough to warrant our attention, and serve as a fine example to those still undecided on who to throw their in their lot with. Someone involved, but not yet cemented in their alliance. Hewitt, Glasdale, even Alderauge.” Andrei. The last is thought, not said. The Second Herald does not wish it to come to that. [Cynic]

Internal politics intensifies. An example shall be made. Oh where, oh where will the heavy hammer drop?

>>4058780
Perhaps you should have gone with a less dangerous vote for the first opening one then. Something to mull for the next thread onwards.

>>4058780
Just ban the votes of anyone who didn't involve themselves in inane shitposting arguments and therefore don't already have 10+ posts

/s

>>4057429
this is my IP at school, it should remain static hopefully

>>4058780
the samefaging has tramautized you it seems, really you are a little paranoic also
>the scapegoat wins
Sheet, I'm getting ready for the NOOOO

>>4058805
I hope it lands on hewitt.

I dont think many will mourn.

>>4058805
Honestly I voted for it because the guy insisting they keep eliminating all potential witnesses with all their effort seems to have accepted the necessity of striking down men who do not deserve it.

As well, it's far easier to control a man than a war. Not to mention that there's a good chance some Noble is doing something that they can justify their presence in Pascae as investigating.

I mean, the Faction Knights already know what's going on. They won't want to openly stand against the Queensmen. Remember the Neutral faction is considerable and they'll likely act to suppress the side that initiates any open as being the party in the wrong.

Ain't no way they're gonna let it escalate when they have the Serpent Empire preparing to try and invade once their power peaks.

>>4057406
Okay so it not radiation like then, thank you for that correction anon.

>>4058805
here comes the pain train anon

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Senedag, 1st Day of Novrimun, 883 A.C.E – Fae Enclaves, Past-Midnight
> Persusasion Roll, talk to the Fae Outcase during the ritual.
> 2 Success
> A Moment of Vulnerability. Your new companion will be COMRADE status. LOYAL perquisite revealed.
> Double Fail
> Magic Exposure. Sir Andrei is reduced to Battered status for the next day.

“Twig-That-Snaps-Underfoot, I had thought… I couldn’t sleep either.” You finish lamely.

A slight turn of the veiled Fae Outcast ‘s shoulder is all the indication you have that she heard you. Glancing down at what she is holding in her hands you see it is… her mask. The primitive slab of wood with childlike markings and feathers, you had thought it could not be removed. Long moments pass, you do not know what to say. Part of you is morbidly curious to see what lies beneath the veil, another part of you never wants to find out. You wonder what she is doing out here, standing at the edge of the boardwalk to stare into some moonlit pond. You notice a tremble in the Fae Outcasts hand. She is… scared.

You have little love for the Fae, but you are not without sympathy for this particular wildling. You step forward and place a comforting hand on her shoulder. “Come what may, I am here.”

A scarfed hand, raw and bleeding, is placed over your own larger, burlier human one. At least your presence is a reassurance rather than an annoyance. The Fae Outcast takes a deep breath, and then throws herself into the pond. You blink, you hadn’t expected that.

Long moments pass and there is no sign of the Fae Outcast resurfacing. Moments seep into seconds, seconds into a minute and you grow increasingly uneasy. Everywhere you look only your shifting reflection stares back at you, but in the corner of your eyes, just out of focus… there is something else in the pool than one reckless Fae. Something big. The hairs on your neck rise, how old is this centuries old pool? How deep does it go? And how long can a Fae juvenile hold their breath?

”…oh Cain on the fucking Cross!” You blaspheme raucously as your pull your shirt overhead and throw your boots off. You can’t believe you’re even -considering- this, rescuing some Fae teenage from… from whatever the Pit is in that bottomless pond. “I must be bloody mad!”

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“N'uma!” The rough hand of the Fae Warden, Root-Marries-Rock-in-the-High-Places, grabs you mid-dive. You were inches from breaching the waters surface. “Sai- astald, Edan. Lackwit. Nan' astald. Tanya palurin naa il- ten' lle nostale.”

It is the first words you have ever heard him speak.

Another Fae brushes past the both of you, you recognise him as the eerie Maker of Masks. You don’t know how but they step into the pond you just saw the Fae Outcast dive into as if the water was only knee-deep. He holds an odd-looking instrument, pronged like a trident, and utters a haunting shamanic chant as he wades through the dark water.

Tul a ai er… Tul a ai er….
Soora amin ooma….
Tul a ai er… Tul a ai er….
Soora amin ooma….
Tul a ai er… Tul a ai er…

Behind him in the somehow knee-deep water the Fae Warden looms watchfully, giant blade drawn and ready to strike. The edge glows like a sunlit emerald, and it must be a trick of the light but you could swear that the Warden’s hand and hilt of the vibrating weapon are molded into one.

Tul a ai er… Tul a ai er….
Soora amin ooma….
Tul a ai er… Tul a ai er….
Soora amin ooma….
Tul a ai er… Tul a ai er…

Finally the wizened Maker of Masks whoops victoriously and plunges the trident down, the water thrashes. The Warden steps forward, blade low, and hauls the thing ashore like some fisherman’s prize.

The gelatinous bundle of limbs, bare naked as a newborn babe and coated in some sickly looking ichor, practically oozes sorcerous energies from it’s mere presence. You take a step forward to aid the Warden pulling it out of the pool, his giant blade drawn, before you stumble, head spinning, and empty the contents of your stomach on the bridge boardwalk.

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>GAINED COMPANION - Ranged
>Jester-Makes-Fool-of-All LOYAL prerequisite revealed: The Fae Outcast will become LOYAL if Sir Andrei takes them to a realm outside of Cantôn.
>Foreign Shores: “Amin naa i' yeste' en' amin nostale van- sina ndor. Amin il- caela uma sina avaene lle.”

”What the Pit was that…” You ask yourself, trying not to vomit again. The bear pendant on your chest pulses violently.

“Asketh a qu'ry i can answ'r.”” Burdens-Ashen-Olive-Branch steps forward from the dark behind you. You whirl around, is half the Fae Enclave here tonight?

You turn back as the Warden carries the slimy bundle away to Almighty knows where. “Then… then what happened to Twig-That-Snaps-Underfoot? What is she?”

You had expected some illusion or Fae trick. But it is plain to the eye that the changes, or whatever it is, has very material effects. The sickly bundle of limbs are slender and their proportions odd, but not so much you would give more than a second glance if you passed them on the street in Grenoble. Their physicality is markedly less alien and much more… more human.

“Yond is not Twig-That-Snaps-Underfoot. Yond is Jester-Makes-Fool-of-All. Neith'r is the oth'r, yet both art the one thee calleth 'Outcast'.”

”Her name is now Jester-Makes-Fool-of-All?”

“Aye. Anon, and p'rhaps at each moment wast. Though p'rhaps a m're human monik'r wouldst beest bett'r suiteth h'r on the road.”

A more human moniker then…

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>”I shall call her Fool.” Ironic, that she should play the fool and in so doing fool every passerby as to her true nature. [Haughty]

>”I shall call her Jester.” Well that was… interesting. Perhaps she will learn to do tricks. The non-magical kind. [Hearty]

>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

>>4058843
>>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

>>4058843
>>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

"Born anew... Kid... Kid will do just fine."

>>4058842
Translation for those who dont have the link readily available:

>“N'uma!”
>"Stop!"

>“Sai- astald, Edan. Lackwit. Nan' astald. Tanya palurin naa il- ten' lle nostale.”
>"Very brave, human. Stupid but brave. That world is not for your kind."

>The song:
Come little er… come little er….
Follow my voice….
come little er… come little er….
Follow my voice….
come little er… come little er…

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

We're responsible for her now and are her guardian/father figure

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

>>4058856
>father figure

Good point, after we sit down and have a chat with her we can tell her to call us Daddy Emile

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

>>4058849
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>>4058843
>“Aye. Anon, and p'rhaps at each moment wast.

yfw he breaks the 4th wall.

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

>>4058849
Thanks for the translation.

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

>>4058843
>”I shall call her Fool.” Ironic, that she should play the fool and in so doing fool every passerby as to her true nature. [Haughty]

>>4058843
>”I shall call her Jester.” Well that was… interesting. Perhaps she will learn to do tricks. The non-magical kind. [Hearty]

>>4058843
Forgotten shouldn't her companion status be loyal instead of comrade? We did gift her the crit favor and thus give her the chance to explore the world. The crit favor doesn't seem like much if all it did was grant +5 DC in a single roll. It seems a bit much to have it go from sister for life to down to just comrade because it was 2 success instead of 3.

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

Seriously, what kind of dick would choose to do otherwise.

>>4058886
This whole ritual wouldn’t be possible without the favour

>>4058886
The critsuccess favor/boon granted us a re-roll (which became meaningless along with the other two re-rolls because of that double fail) in the last roll and not +5 dc bonus (which would have been actually better as it would've turned that double fail into a double success). But yeah its effects are underwhelming for a crit.

You guys are so ungrateful, we passed our crit success on to the Outcast. We don't get to do that and then sit around bitching about not benefiting off it properly. Especially given the different cultural values. What did the crit give us? Some favour with the Outcast since we gave it to her. What did it get her? I complete re-imagining of who she is. She's been re-cast, re-born, made new and now is able to travel outside of her domain somewhat freely. That's not nothing. The results of the crit weren't underwhelming, we provided someone with a new identity which seems to be something they desperately wanted and we've earned some trust with them because of it. Is that enough to make them bonded to us like family? Fuck no, or apparently not. Different cultures, and it's only one act of kindness that could be interpreted a million different ways rather than a pattern of behaviour that shows we give a shit

>>4058905
Yeah shouldn't that affect her companion status? She wouldn't have been able to even have the ritual if we didn't confer the crit boon to her.

>>4058914
Thanks for the correction.

>>4058886
Imagine being in hard situation and someone gives you one million bucks. You are grateful toward them probably would help them best to your capabilities. Question is would you lay your life down for them?

Also favor was not about receiving something it was about paying of our debt.

>>4058918
The crit boon only gave us one reroll for one single roll with her which was invalidated by a double fail. The effects of a double fail turned the effects of a crit success meaningless. It meant nothing.

>>4058926
Don't forget the widely different results for the different success results. 3 success gets you sister for life, but the only difference between 2 success and 1 success is that you get a prerequisite in 2 success.

>>4058926
Complaining like that is cringy as fuck. If you ever see yourself acting like that be this quest or playing rpg with your friends please stop.

>>4058886
Are you saying she should be moved to the point if loyalty because we used the favour to pay most but not all of the debt we owed her?

Becausr that seems kinda off.

>>4058918
It's okay for a Knight tonbw mean spirited and petty so long as it's towards someone without social standing. After all, it's so inconvenient to pay back a lide debt ao we might as well secretely strike a blow at hwr by taking her into the human world for the first time with a weird name that's derogative.

We shouldn't feel obligated to keep the aame standards when nobody is there to call us out on it. Just becausr she saved our life, that just means we owe her a debt to paid, not that we should think of her as a person leaving the only home she's known to wander the world while risking being hunted and killed if she didn't take a major risk to chenge enough to blend in.

Let's give her a funny name ton fit her funny talk so we never forget that she doesn't deservw anything more tham the bare minimum to repay the debt, not wvwn the simple kindness we would give the meanest begge among men.

After all, if we don't drive her away she might save our life again.

>>4058941
go to bed or stop using drugs

>>4058926
I think gifting the crit favor to her should've gotten a save for that interaction roll instead of another re-roll that can only be used once. Double fails can't turn saves null unlike re-rolls.

>>4058929
Actually no.


1 = Worlds Apart. Your new companion will be COMRADE status.
2 = A Moment of Vulnerability. Your new companion will be COMRADE status. LOYAL perquisite revealed.
3 = Behind the Mask. Your new companion will be LOYAL. SISTER-FOR-LIFE perquisite revealed.

3 would be loyal. With SFL conditions revealed.

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

Jester-Makes-Fool-of-All so let's go with Jessica and Jess for short.

>>4058843
>>”I shall call her Fool.” Ironic, that she should play the fool and in so doing fool every passerby as to her true nature. [Haughty]

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

>>4058843
>”I shall call her Jester.” Well that was… interesting. Perhaps she will learn to do tricks. The non-magical kind. [Hearty]

>>4058993
I like it. Supporting.

>>4058993
Yeah this makes sense, close to what she chose but actually normal human shit so she doesn't get discovered and gutted

>>4058993
Shouldn't it be a Romani name?

>>4058993
>>4059085
>>4059086
>>4059097
How about Emilie or Emily?

>>4059102
seems a bit self absorbed

>>4059102
That's a little on the nose given the MCs name is Emile

>>4059085
I kind of want to give her a list of names and see which one she likes. If she's going into human lands,she should have a human name,but she should be able to choose which name.

>>4059102
That's a great name. Name her Emilie and Em for short. Supporting

>>4059107
Emile is haughty so it makes sense.

>>4059115
Supporting this too.

>>4059115
+1 to this. Show her all the female names and let her choose which one you'll name her. Make sure it's a Fallavonic female name.

>>4059115
Support

>>4059126
>Salve Reginae

>>4059146
Not a recommendation,just worst case scenarii.

>>4059102
>>4059121
I don't want people to think she is our bastard daughter.

>>4059121
he's proud yes but not to the point of self absorbtion, and others have pointed out people may mistake her for a bastard daughter or sister of ours something I'm sure Emille will want to avoid.

>>4059115
this isn't a bad option I suppose, we've largely given and respected her autonomy I don't suppose naming should be any different.

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist

>>4058855
>>4059053
>>4059062
>>4059196
That's an awful lot of 1 post IDs, voting for the same thing, without linking any previous votes. Am I just paranoid?

>>4059210
Im on my phone and my id chnahes all the time and this is like the 2nd vote of this thread buddy, and alots of people want the same thing.

>>4059210
Like we’re literally on the 2nd vote. I think its inevitable.

>>4059224
>>4059213
Aw shit, we're only on the 2nd vote? My bad. didn't notice with all the posts we've had

>>4058843
>>”I shall call her Jester.” Well that was… interesting. Perhaps she will learn to do tricks. The non-magical kind. [Hearty]

Giving her a human name and baptizing her sounds like absolute Heresy. She's a Fae for Cain's sake!

>>4058843
>>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

>>4059281
We went actually going to baptize her. As for the name, she is getting one so we can refer to her as such in human company. It's not like we are making her an honorary human.

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]
Supporting this >>4059115

>>4059210
Literally the second vote in thread, calm down fag.

>>4059210
As for me, I lurk often but scarcely vote.

>>4058993
Supporting.

>>4059291
Except she's not a human. Treating her as one puts her equal to humans. Fae are not humans, they are the subhuman Foe.

>>4059115
I like the gesture, but isn't a bit redundant since we are likely to vote on which one she will want?

>>4059512
She saved our life. She is of the Foe, and we thus have reason to be wary,but she has shown that she is not necessarily "our" foe. As for treating her as an equal, no man is truly equal to another. Treating her with some of the courtesies and respect normally reserved for humans does not make her any less Fae. Also, treating her with unnecessarily hostility would not only be rude to her,but dishonorable to ourself as a knight of Canton.

>>4059530
Not if Forgotten picks it based upon his notes on her. Plus, she would likely appreciate it in story.

>>4058843
>>4058993
Support this.

>>4058993
Supporting.

>>4059210
This vote is hardly controversial and has nearly full support for one option

>>4058993
Supporting this

>>4057284
This was me

>>4058843
>>4058993
I'll back this

>>4059210
You're a 1 post

>>4058843
>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]
also supporting the jess option if we're including it, sounds nice, and I kind of doubt she really cares what her 'human' name is. I assume the fae names they have are much more significant than what they're merely called.

>>4060521
Just gonna point out that it could go the other way. We could be taking on an implied responsibility for naming her.

>>4059097
So Juscyka

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>>4060990
Juscyka Bylat! Stalker, I hear you!

>>4059097
Why Romani? We could say she is from just about anywhere considering how she now looks and how strange her behaviour will be

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>>4061217
This is fine.

I endorse this name.

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>”I shall give her a proper human name.” You’ll need to read up on your scripture for appropriate names. And whether a baptism will cause her to melt. [Idealist]

“I shall giver her a proper human name.” Mother did mention if she had another daughter, Heaven forbid, she would name her Juscyka. Perhaps something of a more Fallavon bearing, like Jess…

“As thou wilt.” If the idea of a Fae bearing a human name is insulting to Burdens-Ashen-Olive-Branch, he gives no indication of it. “ Thee shouldst receiveth some rest whilst thou can, Sir Andrei. Thee has't a longeth journey ahead of thee on the m'rrow.”

You can hardly argue with that. You have no recollection of how you made your way back to your bed, but you awake that morning as well rested as one can expect from a half-night’s sleep. If still a little nauseous.


…
The Edge of the Fae Enclaves, Mid-morning
…


There is little in the way of a send-off from your Fae hosts, and the Bluejays are nowhere to be seen. A few that had appeared all too friendly with your brother had said their goodbyes earlier. Only Burdens-Ashen-Olive-Branch and the Fae Warden are present, the latter handing you back your snapped blade with a touch more reverence than when he took it. Your brother has lent you the use of his ordinary sword, but you take the weapon back with a murmured thank you for keeping it safe. You would say you had made a friend of Root-Marries-Rock-in-the-High-Places, nor do you care much to, but earning the fellow warrior’s grudging respect is a feat that strokes your knightly pride somewhat.

“Auta varna, Ohtar. Tenna' lye omenta au'.” There is something awfully familiar about him, and the way he scratched his missing ear just now stirs memories of half-forgotten dreams.

“As that gent sayeth.” The Ashen offers you a friendly wave, another eerily human gesture from the Fae sorcerer. “May the windeth beest at each moment at thy backeth, and the travelling lamp shineth at each moment on thy visage.”

[1/2]

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[2/2]

The newest addition to your crew earns a few raised eyebrows, and Mikail is obviously full to the brim with questions that he cannot ask. All were present when you agreed to allow the Fae Outcast to travel with you, but this is certainly not them. And perhaps not even a Fae. But your companions do not press the issue, or are content to leave it be for now. Even your inquisitive brother takes your curt explanation that this is your new hireling with a curious shrug of the shoulders. After all, it is mainly your temporary beastfolk guide that has their attention for the moment..

Yanterung, the man-sized fox creature, explains that he’s not as familiar with the southern trails as he is the north. “But I know secret woods like well. We see southern menfolk over River River and back to lost country in week only. Take most direct trails, yes?”

You had set out into the Fallavon woods on the 14th Day of Ovrimun, giving you a little under two weeks to return to Motte-Fallavon. There is still some time to explore on your way back. Even a finding as simple as some mushrooms will help cover your expenses. With two guides familiar with the lay lands, who knows what else you might find out here if you step off the beaten bath?

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> “Then there is plenty of time. A detour or two will not go astray.” You can take a roundabout route back to Motte-Fallavon, see what there is to on offer on the way home in this bountiful land for a knight with the right amount of daring. [Haughty]

> “We shall make our own trail. The trail that we blaze!” You should seek out some real treasures, likely guarded by equally real danger. You have time for a little more adventure, or another beastie to bag as Sir Rabe would say. [Hearty]

> “Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]

>>4061478
>> “Then there is plenty of time. A detour or two will not go astray.” You can take a roundabout route back to Motte-Fallavon, see what there is to on offer on the way home in this bountiful land for a knight with the right amount of daring. [Haughty]


Little extra coin will be helpful but lets not go stirring up dragons nests

>>4061478
>“Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]

>>4061478
>“Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]

>>4061478
>“Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]

There is a redheaded lady waiting and we should find plenty of adventure in a week's travel.

>>4061478
>“Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]

>>4061478
>> “Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]

>>4061478
>> “We shall make our own trail. The trail that we blaze!” You should seek out some real treasures, likely guarded by equally real danger. You have time for a little more adventure, or another beastie to bag as Sir Rabe would say. [Hearty]

>>4061478
>“Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]

>>4058856
>>4059126
Me

>>4061478
>> “Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]

let's be done with this place.

>>4061478
>“Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]

>>4061478
> “Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]

>>4061478
> “Then there is plenty of time. A detour or two will not go astray.” You can take a roundabout route back to Motte-Fallavon, see what there is to on offer on the way home in this bountiful land for a knight with the right amount of daring. [Haughty]


A couple more wealth would be a fine addition and our party is strong and hale with loyal guides.

I think we’ll be fine

>>4061514
This is me >>4061229

ID changed for some reason. Reee

>>4061478
>“Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]

>>4061478
My first post, but
>quick route.

>>4061478
>“Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]

>>4061478
>> “Then there is plenty of time. A detour or two will not go astray.” You can take a roundabout route back to Motte-Fallavon, see what there is to on offer on the way home in this bountiful land for a knight with the right amount of daring. [Haughty]

This is a victory lap.

At this point we have:
Familiarity with the forest
2 full knight companions + 1 squire
A archer/tracker we actually trust our lives with
Another guide who should be trustworthy with the dicerolls of the otterfolk.
The great bear's talisman that will deter most predators.

We'll have multiple rerolls on a relatively easy DC. Just by ourselves and our fae friend was a DC of 86. I think this should be a easy thing to get.

>>4061530
We still have to worry about a possible ambush by Craven.

>>4061478
> “Then there is plenty of time. A detour or two will not go astray.” You can take a roundabout route back to Motte-Fallavon, see what there is to on offer on the way home in this bountiful land for a knight with the right amount of daring. [Haughty]
treasure hunting then

>>4061533
I judge it as unlikely, i'll be more concerned with some form of trickery from the bluejays due to the doubles.

Craven's actions at the banquet showed even to him that his clear intentions against us had no support among those in attendance. Furthermore, any attack by him at this stage would also mean an attack on:
(1) A human who carries the great bears favour. Granted he is likely to not care but it'll be something he'll consider.
(2) An attack on a party with an actual member of the small faefolk. With him currently as a guest of the enclave, hurting the guide will likely create a great outcry for blood of the tribe. Something he should be wary against.

Also for some reason, his tribes shaman is a moderating influence and is likely to counsel him against such aggressive behaviour just in the wake of the banquet.

>>4061533
Not to mention running into anyone still looking for witnesses. They may not buy it if we say "Oh nah, it's cool man, the First Herald said we can leave unharmed. Yeah just go track him down and ask, it's all good"

That being said, I'm still for doing a little looking around before heading home

>>4061478
>> “Then there is plenty of time. A detour or two will not go astray.” You can take a roundabout route back to Motte-Fallavon, see what there is to on offer on the way home in this bountiful land for a knight with the right amount of daring. [Haughty]

>> “Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]

Let's be done with these goddamn forests.

>>4061478
>> “Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]

>>4061478
> “Then there is plenty of time. A detour or two will not go astray.” You can take a roundabout route back to Motte-Fallavon, see what there is to on offer on the way home in this bountiful land for a knight with the right amount of daring. [Haughty]

>>4061478
> “Then there is plenty of time. A detour or two will not go astray.” You can take a roundabout route back to Motte-Fallavon, see what there is to on offer on the way home in this bountiful land for a knight with the right amount of daring. [Haughty]

>>4061478
> “Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist

>>4061478
> “Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]
Time to move on. We've been in the woods for months (two weeks game time)

>>4061478
> “Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]

>>4061478
>Ask guide if there a chance of Craven retaliation
IF YES
> “Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]
IF NO
> “Then there is plenty of time. A detour or two will not go astray.” You can take a roundabout route back to Motte-Fallavon, see what there is to on offer on the way home in this bountiful land for a knight with the right amount of daring. [Haughty]

>>4061889
>>4057201
ME

>>4061478
> “Then there is plenty of time. A detour or two will not go astray.” You can take a roundabout route back to Motte-Fallavon, see what there is to on offer on the way home in this bountiful land for a knight with the right amount of daring. [Haughty]

What could go wrong.

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>>4061851
As of last thread we’ve been in these woods for officially a third of the entire quest.

>>4062524
Into the woodsman quest it was all along

>>4061478
>“Then there is plenty of time. A detour or two will not go astray.” You can take a roundabout route back to Motte-Fallavon, see what there is to on offer on the way home in this bountiful land for a knight with the right amount of daring. [Haughty]

I want to cover the costs, but I also want to get out of these woods soon...

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>>4062524
Can't wait for us to get on a boat to Cathagi.

Makes that ranger gear + hawk purchase so worth it.

>>4061478
> “Then there is plenty of time. A detour or two will not go astray.” You can take a roundabout route back to Motte-Fallavon, see what there is to on offer on the way home in this bountiful land for a knight with the right amount of daring. [Haughty]

>>4062591
We could also sell our ranger gear if we're truly pressed for wealth.

>>4061478
> “Then a week it is. Good, we shall return early.” You’ve had your full of gloomy forests and oversized predators. You have no appetite for further distractions. The direct route home is best, little risk and less discomfort. [Idealist]
>>4059660
Was me, I hate mobile posting.

>>4061478
> “Then there is plenty of time. A detour or two will not go astray.” You can take a roundabout route back to Motte-Fallavon, see what there is to on offer on the way home in this bountiful land for a knight with the right amount of daring. [Haughty]
>>4062524
>Are they still on Fallavek?

>>4062945
>>4062678
>>4062524
Imagine how long Carthaggi is going to be

>>4062996
I just pray that the storylines we follow all go in the same direction, rather then all over Cathagi.

>>4063019
I doubt that a good chunk of them are stuck in Canton, we're going to have to make a choice if and when Canton goes to war if we join the Dragon guard.

>>4063023
> we're going to have to make a choice if and when Canton goes to war if we join the Dragon guard.

Where is this coming from? Why would Canton start a war with Cathagi?

If they went to war with someone else, we would follow the orders of our Father, he's the one with the right and obligation to send us off or not.

>>4062996
What is - timeskip.

>>4063041
I'm talking more if the kingsman/Queensmen conflict escalates into an actual war rather than intrigues.

The choice would be between serving our tenure on the guard as a matter of honour most likely or returning home for family and country.

>>4063046
Point

>>4063059
Honestly, given our standing and our house's lands and abilities, not getting involved in that hot mess sounds fantastic. Neutral faction all the way with Lord Aulderige.

>>4063096
I think that skipping out on it is a disservice to Emille's character, it might be a hot mess but one we are obligated as a noble and knight to partake in regardless of what faction we end up involved in.

>>4063116
So, either betray the Crown or betray our Faith?

Or stay out of it and save our strength to fight the ACTUAL enemies of Men?

>>4062996
I WANT TO GET OFF MR FORGOTTEN'S WILD RIDE

>>4063140
I suppose an argument could be made that it's not a betrayal of either but I lack the concentration at the moment to pursue such a thought

>Or stay out of it and save our strength to fight the ACTUAL enemies of Men?

That's a funny line of thought considering our stay with the Fae and we're considering serving the dragon

>>4063116
Our house backs the king so we would be on that side of thr fight.

>>4063164
The Dragon isn't an enemy, remember? Him and Adam and Caine made peace with each other.

Craven, or the Snakemen Empire, or the Undead in Romaine

>>4063164
>>4063216
While peace is a strong word did Adam decided to spare the dragon and later made peace with the Wild. If we consider the Sons Of Sin and Adam getting martyred, its possible that the Wild did not break the pact but instead that the Sons that fell to sin murder Adam instead. The Wild made a convenient scapegoat to spare the infant nation of Canton a tale of fratricide in his founding. This is all mostly speculation on my part of-course.

>>4063216
An enemy with a ceasefire is still an enemy, they made peace with the Fae and that didn't stop the war of borders or their vassals breaking the peace, they made peace with the dragon and Carthaggi and that didn't stop the crusades adamant or their involvment with the war of names and slaving raids

Also citation for the peace? I can only find sparing the dragon not explicit peace at a glance.

>>4063236
Lol this >>4063232 coming right before this >>4063236

At least the first anon admits he was just making head canon up.

> Citation for peace

Yo you even read the pastebins? Cathagi and Canton have had periods of war and peace, we're currently in a peace period. If you go reread the thread we got the recommendation in, Forgotten explains that the Church is cool with Dragon Guards.

>>4063319
>head canon
I think I'm basing my speculation on establish lore and our findings in the ruins. We know for a fact that the Sons of Sin really real and while we can doubt it's authenticity there is a version of The Brothers’ Twelve Passages they are to blame for the death of Adam.

>>4063444
It's a good theory, but the details could vary wildly. Especially if Fae were involved in the creation of the Sons of Sin. It could be that they attacked the Wild after being unable to restrain themselves, breaking the pact themselves and leading to Adams death. Or the Wild broke the pact by driving the Sins insane or otherwise manipulating them if they were involved in their creation. Or the SoS killed Adam specifically to break the pact or maybe even because Adam agreed to it.

Another reason to go to Cathagi and search for information while continuing our pilgrimage.

>>4063319
What exactly is headcannon in what I said? the Carthaggi were involved in the war of borders explicitly involved in both the Crusades adamant and were one of the the threats during the war of borders, I'll admit that the Fae are explicitly not mentioned specifically during the war of borders or at least as far as the pastebin concerns but the rampant beastmen incursion Fallavon faced during it speaks to a lack of either power or willingness to wrangle them into line through a desire for peace.

>Yo you even read the pastebins?

I was specifically asking because I couldn't access the pastebins at that point in time but yes I do though prehaps not enough to quote ad lib.

>Cathagi and Canton have had periods of peace

That peace has not obstruct slavers from praying on pilgrims on the road, or opportunistic invasions during times of crisis.

>If you go reread the thread we got the recommendation in, Forgotten explains that the Church is cool with Dragon Guards.

I can't seem to find it, I understand their is a level of societal acceptance regarding knights joining it particularly given the wealth and prestiege associated with it but nothing explicit from the church, but I may have just missed it.

>Brothers making peace with the Dragon

the closest I found in the pastebin to making peace with the Dragon is Adam getting Caine to spare it for reasons that are probably up for debate or at least clarification.

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>tfw you actually didn't fucking read that Adam spared the dragon for sparing Salva reginae

Disregard my dumb shit