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Previously on NERV: Second Daughter... We're getting close to the end. You can feel it too, can't you? We've come a long way, you and I. All this time, I've been by your side – watching over you, wishing you well, even protecting you when I had to. Well, it's been fun but I think it's time for this to end. You don't need me any more, and I never liked long goodbyes. Time to cut the cord and be done with it.

You really wish they found a better place for you to sleep. The BLUE EYE dorm, even without any lingering thoughts of the girls no longer present here, is far from luxurious. The beds aren't particularly comfortable, the dorm is just a little too cold, and there's nothing to do except for Emma's arcade machine. You glanced it over, but one look at the high score screen – row after row of EMA – caused you to turn away in dismay.

She never did beat level eleven.

As you turn away, you find yourself staring directly at Johanna. Her double. Her... replacement.

“You're Holly, aren't you?” the young girl begins, “The Doctor told me about you.”

“The Doctor?” you ask, “You mean... Doctor Bergmann?”

“Yes,” Johanna replies, her cheeks darkening with childish embarrassment, “She doesn't like it when I call her “Mama”. She said I'd understand when I was older. I don't get it, though. I want to understand it now!” A pretty frown crosses her face, her hands clenched down by her sides. “Is it because I'm too old now? Or is it because she went away for so long?” she continues, only to hurriedly bite off the rest of whatever she was going to say, “I'm... sorry. I'm not good with new people.”

No kidding. Then again, you're not much better. “Well, uh, how about I introduce myself? Then, I won't be a new person,” you suggest, holding out a hand for her to shake, “I'm Holly. You got that right. Holly Reynolds, if you want to be formal about it. And you're Johanna, right?”

Finally, a shy and tender smile.
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>>4015352

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“I don't like it here,” Johanna admits quietly, pushing her hands deeper into her pockets and shuffling her feet, “It's cold here. And people are always so angry. Like, um, in the gym. Blue.”

Claudia, of course. Even without any details, you could have guessed. Johanna frowns faintly at something only she can see, her eyes growing hazy with thought. Without her needing to say a thing, you realise that she's thinking about home – a home she never really knew. Despite this, the memories seem to flow freely, as if those fjords and forests were still hidden away deep down inside of her.

Very cool, very sophisticated. Now you just need to say something to match.

“I thought you'd be used to the cold,” you blurt out, “You know, being from up north and all.”

Nailed it.

“It's different. It's cold in here,” the young girl explains, pressing a hand to her chest, her heart, “But M-Mama says I should get used to it. We cannot go home, she says. Because of what the witch did. I don't remember it very well. She said... she said the witch made our home vanish with a spell, and that's why I don't remember. I asked her about it, but she got angry again. Like Blue.”

All of a sudden, something – perhaps the mention of some bipolar maternal figure – becomes too much to bear. You need to get OUT, and fast. “Speaking of,” you hastily announce, “I'd better check on her. You know, make sure she's not... you know.”

She doesn't, Johanna, but she doesn't point that out.

-

When you arrive at the gym, Claudia is in the middle of a gruelling set of stretches that seems less like physical therapy and more like an exercise in masochism. With her face set in a ruthless snarl, she pushes her body as far as it can go. Probably not such a good idea, you muse, to go so hard so soon after her injury. You'd tell her that but, of course, she wouldn't listen. That's just not her style.

“Well?” Claudia snaps, sparing you the briefest glance around, “Are you just going to stand there and watch me suffer?”

“Yup,” you reply with a grin, “Most fun I've had in a long time.”

“Oh, that's so cute,” she sneers, snatching up a towel and wiping sweat from her face. Just for a second, a wince of pain. Then it's gone, the sneer returning. “Just count yourself lucky,” she adds, “If I wasn't so tired, I'd march over there and kick your arse.”

Raising a mocking eyebrow, you march over and sit down opposite her. “Well, just look at that” you remark, giving her a daring look, “I saved you the walk.”

Claudia considers her next move with immaculate care. Then, uncoiling her body like a spring, she leans sharply forwards until her face nearly touches yours. The motion, the sudden intimacy of it, causes you to flinch back.

Okay. So she wins this round.

[2/3]
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>>4015353

“It's awful,” Claudia remarks eventually, leaning back to a more comfortable distance, “Isn't it?”

“What is?” you ask, shifting around on the worn, scarred gym mat. The air here feels stale, somehow more underground than anything you've felt back in the Avalon office. Ava and her team must have spent countless hours here, hammering away at endless exercises. All that effort has left a kind of psychic stain on the place, a contagious fatigue. All that training, and it didn't mean a damn thing in the end.

“I don't know, actually,” the heiress admits with a casual shrug, “All of it, I suppose.”

Can't argue with that.

“But really, I suppose I'm thinking about the girls here. The pilots. Here one minute and gone the next. Now, everyone is just moving on,” she muses, idly twisting a strand of her hair around her finger as she thinks aloud, “It all seems rather... unfair, don't you think?”

>Don't give up on them. There's still a chance!
>Wow Claudia. I never knew you cared so much about them
>I hate to admit it, but it made our job here a lot easier
>I think... (Write in)
>Other
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>>4015355
>I think... (Write in)
"You're damn right it is. I spent time with those girls last time I was here. They are good people and everyone just writing them off because of what they are makes me pretty sick. I really hope Ava can find some trace of them at the portal. They deserve a chance at life, not just being Matheson's pocket assassins."
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>>4015355
>Don't give up on them. There's still a chance!
We just happen to some other thing going on right now that really need our attention, besides i'm sure that whenever they turn up it will be at the least convenient time possible for us.

Knowing Amon, he may have counted humanity among Lilith's Children so they may end up defending Orcus Or even playing second fiddle to Lilith when she shows up, to make our lives even harder.
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>>4015355
Seconding >>4015366
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“You're damn right it's not fair,” you agree, nodding gravely, “I spent some time with them when I was last here. They were... they ARE good people, not just soldiers or assassins. Certainly not some disposable asset. I hope Ava can find some trace of them at the portal. The thought of just writing them off like that makes me sick.” Rising suddenly to your feet, you pace the length of the small gym. Down low in one corner, a tiny scrawl of graffiti has been left on the wall. The letters, small and wildly formed. A flicker of individual spirit shining through the discipline forced upon them.

“Life sucks,” you read aloud, tracing your finger across the words, “Get a crash helmet.”

“I won't disagree with that,” Claudia remarks, “But what on earth are you talking about?”

“They're real girls, as real as either of u. They deserved better than this shitty place!” you cry, gesturing at the grim room they called home, “And I'm not giving up on them just yet. You shouldn't either. We've got this Temple crap to deal with, I get that, but once that's out of the way-”

The soft sound of someone clearing their throat. Looking around, you see Commander Monroe standing in the doorway. “We've got an update from Avalon. Ava arrived safely, and we're already working on the best way for her to search DIrac. Not much else to report yet. We need some time to get the Colossus prepped for the flight to Temple, but I want us to be moving as soon as possible,” she pauses, “Fletcher is on his way back, with Victor. When we go to Temple, he'll be coming with us.”

Letting out a breath you hadn't realised you'd been holding, you nod. “I'm glad,” you reply quickly, “I mean, uh, Nate might need a friendly face and-”

“I know, I know,” Monroe agrees, giving you a genial wink, “Don't you worry yourself about it.”

Beside you, Claudia rolls her eyes with an exaggerated sigh.

-

Still thinking of the BLUE EYE team, you wander aimlessly through Academy. It's still an alien place, overall. Similar enough to Avalon in general form – the same colours, the same features on the walls – but different enough for you to get lost in. But that's fine. You let yourself get lost, allowing your feet to do the thinking for you. After a time, you couldn't say how long, you end up at what you assume to be the science division. The few people you pass wear white coats, so it's either the science division or a high class restaurant. You don't smell cooking, so...

“Miss Reynolds?” Doctor Brahms calls out, peeking out from a doorway, “Are you lost?”

“No. Maybe. I wasn't looking for anywhere in particular,” you answer, feeling suddenly foolish, “Can you be lost if you're not looking for anything?”

Brahms frowns at this question, the vagueness of it. “That entirely depends on what you mean by “lost”, I would think,” he suggests, “It's something of a philosophical issue.”

That's one way of putting it.

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>>4015397

Without waiting to be invited in, you enter the lab and sit down in the first empty chair you see. It slides back a little, the plastic wheels squeaking quietly, and you feel a smile form on your face. Brahms frowns again, perhaps trying to understand the sudden change in your expression. “Back at my old school, we had a bunch of chairs like this in the computer room. This one time, I managed to get one out into the corridor and push it about. I mean properly sprinting about with it,” you recall, “Claire was sitting in it, and she kept shrieking. But she was laughing too. This chair sorta... reminded me of it.”

“I see,” Brahms replies. He doesn't GET it. That much is obvious.

“I never really enjoyed that place. I had a bunch of stuff going on, and I was just... not happy a lot of the time,” you continue, “But there were times like that, when I forgot about all the bad stuff and just had fun.”

Considering this in silence, perhaps thinking about his own youth – although you certainly can't imagine such a thing – Brahms crosses over to his computer and taps a few keys. The screen wakes up, showing an odd diagram. Lots of tiny blue hexagons, all crowded together in a tight grid. “I've been looking at the root causes behind the BLUE EYE incident,” he explains, “The BLUE EYE program is unlikely to be repeated, but we should try to understand the flaws and failings regardless.”

“All business, huh?” you point out, spinning the office chair around in a lazy circle, “No fun childhood memories you want to share?”

“Not especially,” he answers bluntly, “Look at this. The BLUE TEAM experienced a catastrophic ego collapse, and I was able to identify the origin point.” Tapping another key, he causes the hexagons to flash red. Then again, but slower – slow enough that you can see the red spreading out from a single hexagon. “Unit 05 suffered ego collapse first,” he explains, “and this spread out through the network to the other pilots.”

“Emma,” you correct him, “Not Unit 05. Emma.”

Brahms tilts his head slightly, acknowledging your comment. “Regardless. The incident was very likely due to some issue with Uni... with Emma,” he continues, “Possibly some kind of flaw in her creation, although that requires further investigation.”

A silence falls over the pair of you. On the computer screen, the animation repeats endlessly. “I suppose this is my way of processing things,” the doctor adds suddenly, “It helps, to look at this as a scientific issue rather than...”

“Rather than a tragic disaster?” you suggest, finishing his thought for him. Again, that slight gesture of wordless agreement.

[2/3]
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>>4015439

Doctor Brahms makes coffee with his usual fussy precision, busying himself with the delicate process. As he works, you gaze at the computer screen and watch the hexagon grid turning red over and over again. Reduced down to a diagram like this, there's not even the slightest hint that you're thinking about human beings. Turning away with a grimace, you find yourself confronted by the coffee cup Brahms is holding out. Accepting it with a nod, you take the first sip.

It's wasted on you. You can barely taste anything.

“I always wanted to be a scientist, even from a very early age. I wanted to understand the world around me. Physics was a natural path for me to take. Then, Second Impact,” Brahms begins, “The human loss was, of course, tragic, but I sometimes wonder if Second Impact left a greater wound. Lilim, the ADM Units, the AT Field... Second Impact, and the immediate aftermath, upended the scientific community. Overnight, everything that I had based my life around was undone. We had to rebuild it from the ground up, at a time when wild theories still threatened to drown us out.”

You freeze, the coffee cup halfway raised to your lips. “What kind of theories?” you ask, “Divine retribution?”

“Yes. Among others,” Brahms nods, “There were religious fanatics, of course, but even in those days most people knew better than to listen to them. More dangerous were the fringe scientists – like Doctor Bergmann. Their theories had the veneer of credibility, just enough to cast doubt on the entire scientific community. The UN worked hard to quash dangerous rumours and misinformation, but now I wonder if that was just another method of control.”

Nodding slowly to yourself, you think back to Doctor Bergmann and her vision for the future – calling it a “fringe theory” doesn't quite seem to go far enough. What would Brahms make of the idea? But then, it might be better if you didn't speak so openly about her theories. It might cause trouble between the two scientists, and they've got enough of that already. If they're going to be working together at Temple...

“Miss Reynolds?” Brahms asks, noticing the thoughtful look on your face, “Something on your mind?”

>Tell Brahms about Bergmann's plan for the future
>Keep Bergmann's plan quiet for now
>Ask something else instead... (Write in)
>Other
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>>4015492
>Tell Brahms about Bergmann's plan for the future
I can guess it, but I would like to hear his thoughts on it.
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>>4015492
>Tell Brahms about Bergmann's plan for the future.
If he knows he can come up with a plan to help mitigate the risks that it that it happens accidentally.

Some other things to consider about the disappearance of the blue eye units are,
"Who" the donor was for the various power plant's
Who first suggested the idea.
and
Was Adrian or Amon involved at any stage during it development or deployment ?
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>>4015492
>Tell Brahms about Bergmann's plan for the future
>But don't tell him it's Bergmann's
This way we can hear his thoughts without endangering their cooperation.
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“I've just been wondering. About a bunch of stuff, actually. Lilim stuff,” you reply, choosing your words carefully, “The Nephilim Units used Lilim material in their power units, didn't they? Where did they get the material from?”

“That's correct. The reaction between Lilim and Adamic material was intended to create a perpetual source of power. A tremendous concept, but sadly unstable as we've seen,” he answers, flicking through a set of notes as if seeking confirmation for something, “I believe the Lilim material was originally collected at the Garden. The material came into UN possession after the installation was shut down. That was long before the experimental generator theory, of course. The samples were collected for safekeeping, rather than for a specific use.”

“But since you had the samples to hand, you figured you'd use them anyway. Cool,” you sigh, correcting yourself with a quick scowl, “I don't mean “you” you, just... whose idea was it, anyway? Was Adrian involved?”

Brahms glances around at the mention of that old, familiar name. “Adrian? I don't believe so. Or rather, he wasn't involved with the original theories. It's very likely that he helped to liaise with the various departments. That was, by and large, his role around here. I never quite figured out what his official job was, but...” he shakes his head, referring back to the notes, “A colleague of mine came up with the generator theory. Kendrick, I believe his name was. According to this, he was transferred out to Temple rather recently.”

“Kendrick. Right,” you murmur to yourself, memorising the name. Noticing Brahms' curious look, you hurriedly shake your head. “I've just been wondering about the whole thing. Mixing Lilim material with people – or ADMs, I guess – has never been a good idea. That stuff is like, way toxic,” you continue, thinking back to Bergmann's wild theory, “Is there any way to use it safely? Injecting it into people is no good, I know that much, but what about mixing it with...”

You pause.

“If Lilith emerges, mankind is soup, right?” you muse, “What if Lilm material got mixed up with that sea of humanity? Would that be less, uh, disastrous?”

Brahms doesn't reply straight away. He sips his coffee, frowning mildly to himself as he considers this new – new for him, anyway – idea. “That might be correct,” he concedes eventually, “In that non-physical form, a being would be more malleable – it would be easier to incorporate new, alien, material into the overall whole. Directly injecting Lilim material is a rather brute force approach, by comparison. However, I would be hesitant to say that the result of this mixture would be... human.”

Not quite the answer you were expecting. You had been expecting to hear a flat denial, not this. Perhaps keeping Bergmann's name out of it has helped to keep Brahms' mind open.

[1/?]
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>>4015571
Johanna was also constructed, right? Why didn't she get gooped? Is it just because she wasn't in a nephilim, or is there a similarity between her and Ava?
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>>4015597
She wasn't in the fight like BLUE EYE was and wasn't connected to Emma. I'm curious on how Ava survived. I doubt it was just good genes she got from Holly cause we are the most unstable from our group.
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>>4015597
>>4015604
The only reason i can think of as to why Ava managed to resist where all of the others died is because she was the only one who was taking it seriously, and as such when combined with her nature had a reason and the will to fight and successfully defeat the intrusion attempt.

One of the main drawbacks of the Blue Eye pilots is that they don't have actually have a reason to fight and so give up when cornered where a natural pilot would find a way to survive.
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>>4015571

“I was thinking about Lilith. About what might happen if we're not able to stop her,” you explain, uneasily skirting around the exact truth, “If she emerged from the Dirac Sea and spread her AT Field, mankind would be finished. Everyone not protected by an ADM Unit, I mean. But I wondered, if we were able to defeat her after that, what then? But if we fought, and her blood fell into that sea...”

“It could very well lead to the creation of a brand new race,” Brahms agrees, “Although we're venturing into deeply speculative territory here.”

“A new race formed from the sea of LCL,” you think aloud to yourself, “And if that LCL still held the thoughts and memories of the humans that once formed it, what then? This new race, whatever it was, they might really believe they're still human.”

Increasingly uncomfortable with this line of discussion, Brahms takes your empty coffee cup and carries it over to a small sink, washing it out with fastidious care. The longer the silence draws out, the more awkward it becomes – for the both of you, probably. Even after the sounds of running water are cut off, Brahms lingers by the sink. Staring at his slender back, you search for something else to talk about. “I hope Ava is doing okay in Avalon. It can't be easy for her, being on her own now,” you venture, “Why didn't she...”

“I was looking into this, too. As team leader, Ava's connection to the “network” was slightly different. Think of it as a one-way street. She could issue commands through the network, but she wouldn't be harmed by feedback coming back through it. A safeguard, it seems,” Brahms answers, finally turning back to face you, “When the ego collapse spread through the network, she was protected. The others, unfortunately, were not.”

“This whole network seems like a weakness to me,” you grumble, “So if one of them got hurt, or... or worse... it could disable all of them? All of them, except for Ava?”

“Ava was – is – capable of overriding the network in the event of critical feedback. In essence, forcing the other pilots to fight through the pain,” the doctor explains, “Now, perhaps you can understand why most of the scientists working on the BLUE EYE project preferred not to meet the pilots in person.”

God forbid they actually started to see the girls as human beings.

“It's strange, though,” Brahms murmurs to himself, “We still don't know the cause of the ego collapse itself. If it came from an external source, Ava would have been affected by it even without the network. Simply entering the Dirac Sea shouldn't have caused an ego collapse either. It must have been an internal flaw. The generators, I expect. Perhaps Ava's Nephilim Unit can yield some answers. There's still a lot of work to do.”

But he doesn't sound hopeful.

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>>4015697

As you're leaving the lab, you wonder about what Brahms said. His explanations were concise and scientific, centred around the way the BLUE EYE pilots were created. It's only natural, for a man like him, but you wonder if he was missing something – a matter of will. You remember the BLUE EYE team at the start of the meeting, the way they casually let their guard down around you. Maybe something else was waiting to take advantage of that lapse, sneaking in and planting the seeds of disaster. Ava had been different, never letting her guard down for an instant.

“They thought I was their friend,” you say aloud, “They let their guard down around me, and...”

“Funny how that keeps happening,” a sickly voice, so awfully familiar, jeers, “You always make it out okay, but everyone else suffers.”

Whirling around, you cast a wild eye about in search of that mocking whisper. Nothing, there's nothing to see. You're alone in the corridor, and there's nowhere for anyone to hide. “Yeah,” you whisper to yourself, tightly clenching your fists, “That's real funny you son of a bitch. Shouldn't you be dead?”

No answer, of course.

-

No matter what time of day it is, or what country you're in, Monroe always manages to find something terrible on the radio. Tuning out what sounds like an accordion – or perhaps animals being tortured – you watch the streets flash past. Vic and Fletcher touched down not long ago, so you're coming to meet them now. Your heart pounds in your chest, but you can't entirely blame that on the mocking whisper you heard.

Probably just your imagination, or so you keep telling yourself. Guilt, combined with some deeply buried masochism to imitate Amon's mocking voice.

“You know, I remember a pretty good restaurant around here. I wonder if it's still open,” Monroe thinks aloud to herself, glancing aside and giving you a wink, “And if you two don't want boring adults hanging around, well... I'm sure Fletcher and I can find a way of making ourselves scarce. Sounds nice, doesn't it?”

“Uh...” you yelp, caught off-guard by the suggestion, “Is that really... appropriate? I mean, I'm not exactly dressed for anything fancy, so...”

“Who said anything about fancy?” Monroe counters, “Hey, it was just an idea. I'm not trying to push you into anything serious. I know this isn't exactly the best time for, you know, but I thought you might want a chance to take your mind off things. Take the evening off, be a normal girl for a while. Ah, maybe I'm being silly...”

>It's just not a good time. Not now
>No, you're right. I need the time off
>I'd prefer if we all went together. We're a team, after all
>It's... (Write in)
>Other
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>>4015809
>It's just not a good time. Not now
Not after we realized we're to blame for everything forever.
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>>4015809
>No, you're right. I need the time off

We need to recover from realizing we're to blame for everything forever.
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>>4015809
>No, you're right. I need the time off

>>4015819
Totally aren't though.
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>>4015809
>It's just not a good time. Not now
Considering that Vic probably isn't going to be doing real well since we're all on our way to go see how Nate turned out, it's probably going to be a disaster.
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>>4015842
We can comfort each other.
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>>4015860
Didn't you paly any VNs? After the romantic scene is when shit really hits the fan and Bad Ends start coming up.
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>>4015842
All you're convincing me of is that they both need to take a moment to vent together instead of stewing alone.
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>>4015809
>No, you're right. I need the time off I suppose
>How are the rest of the girls back home?
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>>4015873
No, I play sports instead.
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>>4015860
He will have been trying prepare himself, to potentially have to stare into the abyss, taking him out for dinner especially to a place that Monroe would recommend then after this it's off to go see Nate again.

>>4015879
A quiet night together would probably be less disruptive to his thought process.
If we end up needing his help with this, he's going to need to play his role perfectly or we're likely to all be dead before Lilith even gets here.
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>>4015917
Then trust me as an expert.
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>>4015932
We're gonna get to shit hitting the fan eventually. You can't put it off just by avoiding any choices that might lead to romance.
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The car slows, a dense knot of traffic forcing you to crawl along. Mercifully silencing the radio, Monroe rolls the window down and leans out, peering at the traffic up ahead. You can see the warning lights of a police car – unmistakable in any language – reflected in a window. An accident, it seems, barely any time at all after the traffic started flowing again. That's just the dumbest shit, and now you're going to be late. Probably going to leave the others waiting. Taking your phone out, you start to tap out a text before hesitating.

Even the smallest things are different now. Before, this would have been simple – just tap out a friendly message and be done with it. Now, you're struggling to find the right words. Maybe it needs to be more than “just” friendly, but...

With an angry sigh, you thrust your phone back in your pocket. Maybe it'll be easier just to make your excuses in person. Realising that you've left Monroe waiting, left her without an answer, you give her a nod. “No, you're right. I need the time off,” you decide, “It's only an evening off. I can have that much, right? Just promise me you're not delaying anything with Temple because of this.”

“Don't worry about that. No, between loading the ADM Units and getting the Colossus prepared, we've got some time to kill,” Monroe assures you, “I'm not THAT irresponsible!”

“I never said...” you begin, before realising that she's joking, “Yeah, okay, fine. Did Fletcher say anything about the situation back home? How are the others doing?”

Carefully guiding the car down a thankfully quiet side street, Monroe begins to accelerate. “Things are quiet, apparently, and not really in a good way. From what Fletcher implied, they've been treading on eggshells. Ava, you know. It's hard to know the right thing to say around her. As for Ava herself, Fletcher said that she's been quiet. Withdrawn,” she answers, “She's hard to read, that one. I hope she doesn't blame herself for what happened.”

“Huh? Why would she blame herself? If she's got anyone to blame, it's m-” you hesitate, swallowing heavily before forcing yourself to continue, “It's the Lilim.”

“She was their leader. That means something, you know?” Monroe concludes, “God knows, I understand how she must feel.”

You can't reply to that, and the rest of the drive plays out in suffocating silence.

-

Monroe's restaurant, when you arrive, is definitely nothing fancy. Made up like an old German beer hall, it feels almost overwhelmingly alive compared with the cold BLUE EYE dorm. Enough background conversation to cover up any one individual voice, but not so loud that you'd need to shout. Instead, the noise seems to form a protective shield around your small corner table. Over at the bar, just barely within the corner of your eye, Monroe brandishes a stein of beer. Fletcher, apparently the designated driver for tonight, isn't drinking.

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>>4016002
>If she's got anyone to blame, it's m-

I know our girl is self-depreciating on a good day, but this is trying to *find* something to be at fault for. Even if her hunch of "letting their guard down" is correct, and it is just a hunch, there is like a laundry list of people more to blame for what happened starting with Coraline attacking, Amon poisoning Emma, and Academy Scientists for their network shit. There is way more tangible reasons there than just "I befriended this group months ago, woe is me."
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>>4016089
But the only reason Coraline survived long enough to do any of this is because, Holly didn't turn over the disk that would have revealed Dis's location to the council, immediately after we found it.

If it hadn't have happened, we may have even eventually caught it before it could have gone wrong.
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>>4016002

“We should order something, right? Um, starters first, I guess,” you begin, flipping through the oversized – and, thankfully, English – menu, “Starters. Onion rings?”

“Hm,” Vic muses, “Maybe that's not such a good idea.”

“Oh? Why do you-” you begin, pausing as realisation dawns, “Oh. Ah, right, so... what do you think?”

Vic orders, and soon you're eagerly looking over an assortment of bar food – familiar, but with enough regional flair to trick you into thinking it's exotic. Hungrier than you first realised, you eat quickly and gracelessly. Vic does the same, and you take some small comfort from that. “I've got news from home. I don't know if you've been told already, but it's about Dakota,” Vic tells you, carefully wiping his mouth on a napkin, “Yulia's been sitting with her in the infirmary, but we all take turns. Sometimes we read to her, sometimes we just keep her company. We just want to make sure she's not alone. Anyway, it was Yulia who noticed it.”

“It,” you repeat. It can't be BAD news, you assume, or he wouldn't be telling you so lightly. Still, why do you feel so uneasy about this?

“Her finger was twitching, and we think she might have been frowning a little. Doctor Weick thinks it's a good sign. A sign of life, he said,” the young man explains, “So whatever we're doing, it seems to be working.”

Relief washes over you in an awesome wave. You start to lean forwards and hug Vic, only for the table to get in your way. Awkwardly fumbling for a moment, you eventually settle on a high five. “That's great news!” you laugh, “I know it's still early, I know I shouldn't get carried away, but... this is great news!”

>Ego increased by 5
>Current Ego: 65/70

“You'll have to have a word with Yulia when we get back. I tried asking her what her secret was, but she wouldn't tell me,” Vic complains, brushing a lock of hair away from his face, “She said it was top secret, girls only. So now I'm relying on you to find out for me.”

“I mean sure, I'll ask her. I just won't tell you,” you tease, sticking out your tongue, “It's girls only, after all.” Gasping, his eyes widening with pantomime horror, Vic slumps back in his chair. Laughing even harder, you gulp down a mouthful of soda and glance across to the bar. Monroe is still there, laughing at some private joke of her own and leaning in towards Fletcher. Always the professional, he gently pushes her back down onto her barstool. “But man, I'm glad. For a moment, I really thought Dakota might not wake up,” you sigh, your laughter fading fast, “I thought she was gone for good, all because I-”

“Holly,” Vic interrupts, his expression turning seriously, “Why do you always insist on taking the blame for everything?”

Like a piece of Excalibur itself, the question cuts straight through your guard. Speechless, you just stare at the young man.

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>>4016122
There is also a laundry list of reasons why we didn't turn that disc over.

And if we are going down the route of butterfly effects and chains of events over months then once again there is a shitload of people at fault like Matheson and Leighton.
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>>4016133
What's so bad about onion rings?
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>>4016137
We also had the chance to fight her right before we fought Amon as well, and a couple of others had we taken the initiative to do so We could have persuaded Fletcher to act on the info we had provided to him at various times Like right after we saved Fletcher in Berlin, or China .

But I would agree that we really haven't had may straight good choices to make just various bad ones, that we have made work vastly at our own expense, thought that hasn't saved others on the rare occasion, that something falls out side our control.
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>>4016154
Vic probably wants to keep acceptable breath during his romantic advancements.
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>>4016133
iirc Karina said the same thing to Holly about blaming herself. Some habits die hard
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>>4016133

“I'm serious,” Vic insists, although you weren't doubting that for a moment. He waits, waiting for an answer that isn't going to come. “Taking responsibility is a good thing, I'm not denying that, but there's a limit. You can't blame yourself for every little thing that goes wrong. Sometimes, the world just... hits you where it hurts,” he continues, leaning forwards and taking your hand in his, “You can do everything right, do everything with the best of intentions, but some things are out of your control. You know that, don't you?”

“Yes, but-” you begin, only to fall silent as Vic squeezes your hand tightly.

“Do you WANT to feel guilty?” he asks, “Holly, listen to me. You have done so much for all of us – for mankind - and I am so proud of you, but you CAN'T keep doing this. You can't keep... hurting yourself like this.”

The rest of the world seems to retreat very far away, the background noise fading to a whisper. There's nothing really NEW about what he's telling you, nothing you haven't considered for yourself, but it's... not as simple as that. It's just the way you are, something buried deep within you – something that, even now, urges you to pull your hand away from his. Frozen in place, ensnared by your own hesitation, you just keep staring at Vic.

You don't know what to do.

>... (Write in)
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>>4016242
>... (Write in)
"It's tough not to. Even now. What do I do Vic?"
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>>4016242
Ultimately that's why we fight. We feel it's our responsibility.
We probably also feel not taking responsibility would make us a bad person.
And, as strange as it is, we got it from our Dad. Not the way he feels about us, but the way he feels about his farm.

>"How can I just abandon them?"
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>>4016242
>"Some things are. Maybe. But right now, we're here and not six feet under because all of us were taking blame and worrying and trying to stop something so huge one could easily step away from. But we didn't."
I'm afraid you can't be perfectly rational when taking blame during such things. Yes, it wears everyone out, but in the end, it allows them to do something. Of course, an argument must be made that taking on unreasonable blame is detrimental in the end, but that would be asking Fletcher's level of experience and self-control. And even then the guy just decided to take forceful approach precisely because he was worried that Leighton would just end them first.
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>>4016242
>... (Write in)
We have everything to lose if we give up, and we don't have anything waiting for us to go back to, since we can't possibly hope to be able to hold onto everything, we have needed to be exceedingly careful with what we choose to do. people have and will continue to die needlessly if we don't.

Holly has recognized that she is being selfish and is building her future as she goes, at the expense of others. e.g. Wilson died because we gave him up, all for our file, Fletcher has only survived because he was useful, Cam survived because we couldn't bare to leave Karina alone, we let Coraline go under the radar for way too long because we saw to much of ourselves in her, and a whole bunch of other examples.
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>>4016242
>I just feel like I've failed them every time they get hurt. They are the reason I am fighting so hard. Our little family of misfits at Avalon and BLUE EYE who turned this violent girl whose only friend died long ago into somebody worth a damn.
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>>4016322
>Fletcher has only survived because he was useful, Cam survived because we couldn't bare to leave Karina alone

Not sure I agree with those two just on their own. Holly genuinely liked both of them and didn't want them to die in addition to your reasons
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>>4016242
>You rite bro. I'm being dumb. My b.
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>>4016345
I'm simplifying things since i would assume that she is starting to feel attacked because
each time someone calls Holly out on it, more pointedly she would feel need to defend her reasoning and since she doesn't have the time she would need to go into the required detail she would likely sensationalize and minimize some events in order to make it seem more cohesive, like she is actually in control and less like she is being dragged along by a series of unfortunate events.
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“It's hard,” you whisper, your voice barely audible over the background murmur, “It's hard not to do it. To feel this way. Even now. I'm responsible for this, for all of you, and if I'm not... it feels like abandoning you all. How can I do that?”

“I wish I could answer that,” Vic admits, “This isn't something I can answer for you. I can be here for you, I can support you every step of the way, but the answers... you'll need to find those for yourself. Come on.” He rises to his feet, still holding your hand, and you rise with him. “Come on,” he repeats, “I certainly know that we won't find the answers in here. Not with all this noise and fuss. Plus, ah, the smell of beer is starting to give me a headache.”

It's small, tiny, but a laugh manages to slip from your lips. “God, you're such a lightweight,” you scold lightly, giving him a little slap on the shoulder, “You'd better not complain about a hangover tomorrow.”

“No promises,” he replies, leading you out the door. As you're leaving, you glance aside and meet Fletcher's eyes. He nods, the gesture so slight as to be almost unnoticeable. He'll take care of things here, that nod seems to say. Stepping out into the night air, you shiver at the sudden chill. Vic gasps too, pulling his light jacket a little tighter around himself. “Better stay moving,” he suggests, “Stay warm that way.”

“Right,” you agree, managing a smile, “I'd feel really guilty if you caught a cold because of me.”

Vic turns, giving you a serious frown.

“Right,” you repeat, “Not funny.”

-

“I guess it started with my folks,” you think aloud as you walk, allowing Vic to guide you forwards. You're not really paying any attention to where you're walking, your attention focused inwards. Looking for those answers of his. “It was a pretty messed up place to be. My folks were coming apart at the seams, and I was too young to really get it. I couldn't really understand that she... that my mom was ill,” you continue, “All I really knew was, they were arguing all the time. Because of me.”

“Because she was ill,” Vic points out, “Not because of you. Did you make her ill?”

Maybe. Or maybe not. You were at the centre of her delusions, her sickness, but that still doesn't mean you caused it. It doesn't mean that your father caused it, when he brought her out to live on that farm. Whatever else happened around her, she carried that sickness inside herself – just like you've got your own sickness inside yourself.

“I can't just give up,” you murmur, “I have to fight, even when it's futile. I have to fight for you, and for everyone else. Our little gang of misfits. You've all done so much for me, you've made me into someone worth a damn, and when you get hurt it's on me. It FEELS like it's on me.”

“But you can't carry all that weight,” Vic tells you, “Not alone. We're all here to share it with you.”

[1/?]
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>>4016405

“Hey. We're here,” Vic adds after a while. Looking up, you recognise the baroque sight in front of you. The statues, the monuments, the graves... this is the memorial garden. Here, the first Berlin incident is remembered and mourned. “Gosh, I'm glad. I thought I'd gone the wrong way for a moment there,” he mutters to himself, “This place looks a lot more tacky in real life though. The photos make it look so much more modest.”

“Well, you know,” you reply vaguely, “Money can't buy you taste.”

“So it would seem,” Vic agrees, scowling at a flabby marble cherub, “Say, Holly, did you get this person killed?”

The question, so casually thrown out there, causes you to blink in confusion. “Did I what?” you ask, “Vic, I wasn't even piloting an ADM when this kicked off. How could I-”

“If you'd been piloting an ADM sooner, you might have prevented it,” he insists, “So when you think about it that way...”

“Vic, that is absurd!” you groan, “How was I supposed to... oh. Oh, you're trying to be smart about this, aren't you?”

“What do you mean “trying” to be smart?” he complains, “Okay, I'll admit that I'm not being particularly subtle about it, but I'm trying to make a point here. If you want to feel responsible about this, that's fine. That's good, in fact, it's a mature thing to do, but you need to choose your battles. Learn from your mistakes and all that.” Pausing, Vic gazes up at a taller statue of an angel. It would almost look graceful, that statue, if not for the vast stone bosom flowing over the top of its gown. “Kaori told me about this place,” Vic continues, “Berlin, to be precise. She spent so long torturing herself about what happened here. Now, I think she's starting to move on. To accept it. Do you know why?”

A cold silence. You're sheltered from the wind, here, and the air feels utterly still.

“Because she stopped running away from it,” you decide after a moment of thought, “She faced up to what happened here.”

“You helped her face up to what happened here,” Vic corrects you, smiling wearily, “You were there for her when she needed a friend. If you want to feel responsible for something, feel responsible for that. For all the good things you've done. I could go on, if you want. I've got a list.”

“That's great, but-” you pause, shivering again, “But maybe you can save that list until we're inside somewhere nice and warm.”

This, Vic doesn't argue.

>So I think I'm going to pause this here for today. I'll be aiming to continue this tomorrow, though
>Thank you for your contributions today!
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>>4016503
Thanks for the run.
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>>4016503
Thanks for running!

When do we start the sloppy teen makeouts with Vic?
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>>4016503
Thanks for running.

I wonder if Vic's going to be of any help with the voices.
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>>4016503
Thanks for running.

Between Karina and Vic, Holly has a decent support network that cut through her bullshit.
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>>4016536
But we're not even married yet!

>>4016563
That's the thing about being in a relationship, you don't need to worry about an imaginary voice annoying you
It's not imaginary!
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No matter how many times you see it, the sight of your ADM Unit being lifted into the Colossus is always impressive. The sheer scale of everything involved, from the size of the aircraft itself to the number of crew working as one. This time, things feel a little different – there's a tension in the air, a subdued fear. Watching from a distance, you wonder about the cause. The incident with the BLUE EYE team, perhaps, or maybe there's something-

“There was an incident. Minor, but it gave us all a bit of a scare,” Doctor Bergmann explains, not sounding particularly scared, “Adam again. Unit 02 showed some brief signs of life, and Unit 03 actually moved a little, but that was it. You probably didn't even notice anything, did you?”

“I've had other things on my mind,” you reply, shaking your head, “Should we be worried, though? If Adam is getting restless, does that mean we should be expecting trouble?”

“Is there ever a time when we're NOT expecting trouble?” Bergmann counters, “But, to answer your question, we don't know for sure. We still don't have enough direct evidence to draw any conclusions, to quote our good friend Quentin.” Brushing aside her coat, she hooks her fingers into her belt and glares up at the Colossus. There's something ferocious about her expression, something rapturous. “We're entering a new world. Holly,” she continues, “Our ancestors are stirring, striving to walk the earth once more. You should be grateful. Thousands of years of human history, and we have the privilege to be a part of this. Not just to witness it, but to participate. To shape the future for all those who come after us.”

Because that's not weird at all.

“Yeah, see, I don't know if the BLUE EYE team would feel very privileged,” you point out, “Or anyone else, for that matter. It's real easy to feel good about this stuff when you spend all day hiding in your lab, that's all I'm saying.” You say that, but you know that Bergmann would have jumped at the chance to become a pilot, if only she had been young enough for it. She seems to think the same thing, dismissing your comment with a wave of her hand. “I spoke to Quentin. Doc Brahms, I mean. Mentioned your little plan,” you add, “He seemed to think it might actually work. In theory. Maybe.”

“Really?” Bergmann raises an eyebrow, “That's unlike him.”

“Well, I didn't tell him it was your idea,” you tell her.

“That explains it then,” she muses, nodding sagely, “He's not quite as cool and logical as he likes to think, that man. When push comes to shove, I think he'll do a fine job. I just have one thing to ask.”

Holding your tongue, you gesture for her to continue.

“Don't tell him I said that,” she asks with a wicked smile, “We wouldn't want him getting too big for his boots, now would we?”

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>>4019151

The soft drone of the Colossus' engine fills the air, mingling with the sound of Vic's quiet snores. He sits, fast asleep, a few seats away from you. Claudia glances his way as she limps towards you, her feet shuffling as she cautiously makes her way across the aircraft. Collapsing down into the seat beside yours, she gives Vic another look. “My,” she murmurs at last, “He must be tired.”

“He didn't get much sleep last night,” you reply, immediately wincing as you realise what you just said.

“My,” Claudia repeats, raising an eyebrow in mocking wonder.

“Don't... I didn't mean it like that,” you groan, “What I mean is, he was helping Doctor Brahms with some last minute work. Fetching files from the archive here, making sure everything was boxed up and prepared, you know. Admin stuff. Absolutely nothing else.” You pause, wondering if maybe you're being a little too defensive about this. Claudia certainly seems to think so, the smirk on her face telling you exactly that.

Of course, there was another reason why Vic couldn't sleep last night. It was only later, when you returned to the BLUE EYE dorm, that he realised, remembered, why he was there. You're not sure what set it off, whether it was something he saw or felt, but the change was immediate. His calm was replaced by a nervy, restless energy, and he had fled in search of some distraction. It must have been pretty tiring, because-

As if struck by some giant blast of wind, the Colossus lurches in the air. Immediately, you realise that this is more than just turbulence – even a hurricane would have trouble disturbing this vast craft. Another crash, another jolt, and a siren begins to blare. Bergmann is already up, moving to help Claudia rise, and she flashes a hard look towards you. “Adam,” she spits, “Talk about bad timing. If the ADMs struggle too much, they might break out of storage. If that happens...”

It's a long way down, you realise, and the ocean is just waiting to swallow them up. “So what's the plan?” you ask, “Emergency landing? Where?”

“No time for that, even if we were close to land. There's no other choice,” Bergmann snaps, “You're going to have to get in there. See if you can't calm them down a little. If you can get inside the entry plug and make contact, you should be able to assume control. What are you waiting for, go!”

“Fucking hell,” you hiss, nearly falling over as another hammer blow strikes the Colossus, “No other choice, huh? Fucking... fine!” Bergmann points the way before dragging Claudia towards Unit 03's storage pod. As you're leaving, Vic reaches out to you. “Don't worry, I got this,” you assure him, “Just sit down and buckle up. This might get a little rough.”

“Come back in one piece,” he orders, meeting your eye for a second before collapsing down into the closest seat, fumbling with the straps of his safety harness.

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>>4019156

The ADM Units are stored out towards the wing sections, slung underneath like giant missiles. It's not exactly convenient or comfortable, but it IS possible to get inside the storage pods from the main section. Simultaneously thanking and cursing the designer, you crawl through the narrow maintenance tunnel and feel out the path ahead with your oily fingers. There, up ahead, you find the access hatch. Clawing blindly at the lock, you slide the hatch open and prepare to drop down.

Don't think about the thin skin of metal standing between you and the open sky. Don't think about how much ADM Unit 02 is struggling against the metal cage holding it in place. Don't think about any of that. Just get the job done.

Unit 02 sways alarmingly, as you drop down onto its broad back, the head shuddering from side to side. With a hiss of releasing pressure, the entry plug retracts and swings open to invite you inside. Feeling as if you're being swallowed by some great beast, you drop inside the plug and haul the door shut behind you. The LCL is already pouring in around you, and soon you've got no choice but to surrender yourself to it.

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You've been here before. The crash and rumble of tumultuous prehistory, with the battle between Adam and Lilith endlessly repeating around you. If this is what the ADM Units see when they dream, you think to yourself, it's little wonder that they're so ill-tempered. An endless purgatory of war, of death and rebirth, of battles that can never be truly won...

“Okay, I'm here!” you call out, shouting into the void, “Now what am I supposed to do?”

No answer, of course. Not in words, at least. The dream begins to shift, warping to accommodate you. Grass sprouts from a bubbling sulphur ocean, tall spires of wheat leading towards the old, familiar sight of your home. Turning away with a gasp and a flinch, you see another new sight rising up in the distance – an old manor, something once elegant and now given over to a crumbling gothic majesty. Claudia's contribution to the dream, you suspect. A coincidence, that you both thought of home?

Maybe. Or maybe not. Caught between the two illusions, you feel the hairs on the back of your neck prickle with that old, unmistakable feeling – you're being watched, studied, by some unseen presence.

“What do you want from me?” you ask, whispering the question that you wanted to shout.

>Stay here, remain in the battlefield
>Head towards the dream of home
>Head towards Claudia's dream
>Or maybe... (Write in)
>Other
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>>4019157
>Stay here, remain in the battlefield
Watch the fight, see if we can pick up on anything that could possibly help us later.
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>>4019157
>>Head towards Claudia's dream
Let's see if we can find her
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>>4019157
>Or maybe... (Write in)
>"Who are we together?"
>Try to imagine yourself and ADM at the same time.
Is an ADM capable of recognizing this weird union of itself and its 'driver'? What does it think about it? How is it and the 'driver' related?
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>>4019157
>>Head towards Claudia's dream
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>>4019157
>Stay here, remain in the battlefield

You know, staying in a battlefield to calm our unit down may not seem like the best idea, but I'm willing to bet cash money our home is gonna be even more traumatic. Claudia's too probably, and going there would be an invasion of privacy anyway.

>>4019156
Wow Vic not even a kiss for good luck? Wow.
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>>4019157
>Head towards Claudia's dream
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There's a savagery to this ancient battle, a brutality that even the worst of humanity would struggle to match. As you watch, one of the naked ADMs drive a Lilim to the ground and smashes the monster's head with a boulder. With every blow that rains down, the ground beneath your feet shakes and shreds of pulverised flesh are thrown far and wide. When the Lilim is dead, the ADM crawls away in search of new prey. A moment later the Lilim rises back up as well, the smashed flesh reforming before your very eyes.

“There's no point to any of this,” you hear yourself say, “You're not fighting over land or resources, wealth or ideology. What could have started this?”

No answer, of course, but an image forms in your mind – oil and water, pushing up against each other but never mixing.

“That's it? You're fighting because, what, you're incompatible? You can't exist alongside each other?” you ask, spreading your hands wide in a pleading gesture, “You can't just leave each other alone? This is a big planet, a big fucking universe, you don't need to do... THIS.”

Another image. This time, a flightless bird with broken wings. A bird that won't ever fly, won't ever leave the nest it was born in. Blinking away the image, you take a few faltering steps towards Claudia's manor home. She has to be there, she has to be, and maybe together you can figure something out. Maybe there you can figure out if there's anything TO figure out. You keep an eye out as you walk, looking for any trace of Adam or Lilith themselves. Strange, that they would be absent from this place.

The uneasy feeling of being watched never quite lets up, and soon you start to feel like a bug under a magnifying glass. The sky, deep red and mired in storm clouds, reveals nothing. No giant eye staring down from the heavens. Still gazing skywards, you stretch a hand up towards the clouds. The sight seems to blur, shifting between your familiar human hand and the armoured skin of your ADM Unit. “We're connected, you and I,” you announce, “We're not so different, are we? But I still don't know. Together, what are we? Are we a master and servant, or are we fellow soldiers?”

Tiny fish, nibbling at the debris stuck between a shark's teeth. Bacteria crawling across an uncaring human body. Plants growing strong, briefly visited by all manner of bugs and flies. Then an image of men and dogs hunting together, sharing in the benefits of their cooperation. But which one are you, the hunter or the hunting hound? This unspoken question is met by a wave of alien curiosity, as if your unseen partner – or, perhaps, your rival in some obscure debate – is wondering the same thing.

Curiosity. You're not about to complain about curiosity. It's better than a violent fury, after all.

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>>4019217

Claudia's manor feels somehow familiar, even though you've never seen it in person. Claudia's nostalgia is contagious, filling you with an almost desperate yearning. Her yearning for home, of course, but also your own yearning for a home LIKE this. An idyllic place far from the trouble and strife of the world. Idyllic, but doomed. A place like that is too pure, too perfect to exist in a world like this. As Claudia herself would say, it no longer exists in this world. Only here, in a memory, can it be found.

You find Claudia herself in the garden outside, leaning back in the grass and watching the two young girls fight with sticks. Claudia's younger self seems like a completely different girl to the heiress you know. It's more than just the hair, the colour of pale sand, but also her manner – unburdened and jubilant, with no room for any false cynicism. As you watch, the young Hester flings her arm out wide in an expansive sweep, leaving herself wide open. Young Claudia takes the invitation, stepping in and poking Hester in the chest with her stick. Collapsing with an exaggerated death gurgle, Hester is soon giggling along with the young heiress.

“You know, I never believed for a second that she was letting me win,” Claudia – the real Claudia – remarks, “I just thought I was that good.”

“You were a kid,” you reply uneasily, “You couldn't have known.” Claudia just answers this with a neutral sigh, never taking her eyes off the two young girls. “Is this a private party?” you add, “I mean, I could leave if you want. I don't want to intrude.”

“Don't worry your little head about it,” Claudia replies, “Even if you weren't here, this wouldn't be anything like private. You've felt it too, I assume? That feeling, like you're a tiger in a zoo. Not just watched, but studied. Watched by what, though? That's the real question.”

“Unit 02, I assume,” you guess, only to correct yourself a moment later, “Except you wouldn't be here if that was the case. Or I wouldn't be here, with you, if it was Unit 03. In that case-”

“Adam, then,” the heiress states, finishing your thought for you, “Maybe this is his way of trying to understand us, the way we've been trying to understand him. We're uninvited guests in this dream, but he's not throwing us out just yet. Doesn't that interest you? It occurred to me, we might be the first humans he's really “aware” of. If that's the case, we're representing our entire species. Honestly Holly, you could have dressed up for the occasion!”

Automatically, you glance down at your clothes. Even here, they're still stained with grease and engine oil from the maintenance tunnel. “Too bad,” you mutter, shooting her a sideways glance, “But you're not looking too fresh either, you know?”

Claudia just shrugs, watching as her younger self holds out a hand to Hester.

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>>4019269
>It occurred to me, we might be the first humans he's really “aware” of.

Nate probably has that honor.
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>>4019269
Claudia confirmed to live in a cinnamon roll.
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>>4019276
Maybe, maybe not. What if the whole plan was to integrate Nate into Adam's remains so that Adam doesn't notice that? Then maybe one could awaken Nate and use Adam's powers without waking Adam completely.
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>>4019269

“Are you watching this, Adam?” Claudia whispers, glancing up towards the reddish sky, “We fight, yes, but we offer the hand of friendship as well. Does that mean anything to you? Can you even grasp the concept?” You both wait for an answer, but none comes. With a casual shrug, Claudia glances back to you. “Well?” she asks, “What do you think, Holly?”

“Hmm,” you muse, “I think you look pretty weird without the blue hair?”

“Oh, you are unbelievable!” she groans, flopping back in the grass and scowling at the sky, “I'm trying to be serious here. I'm actually trying to say something meaningful, and you just take the piss. Unbelievable!”

She's taking this awfully personally. “Okay, fine, I'm sorry,” you reply, still smiling faintly to yourself, “Okay, so what do I think? I think you might be wrong. Nate might be the first human Adam has encountered. In that case, what does that say about us? His first encounter is with a girl offered up like some... some human sacrifice. That's not exactly going to make us look very good, is it?”

“Maybe. Maybe not,” Claudia shrugs, “I saw that battlefield out there. Adam here seems like the sort of man who might appreciate a good sacrifice. It all seems rather biblical to me – we're making our offering and praying that the gods look favourably upon us.”

Silence falls over the pair of you. The two young girls leave the garden, passing close by without noticing your presence. Claudia watches them leave with a sad frown, and just for a moment her younger self pauses, glances back. Then, from ahead, Hester calls out something you can't quite hear and the young heiress carries on inside. “Do you think they will?” Claudia – the older Claudia, the Claudia with the wounded heart – asks quietly, “Do you think they'll look favourably upon us?”

>They will. We've fought the Lilim for them, haven't we?
>They have to. We deserve to survive, to live
>I don't know. We've done awful things with their power
>Do you really think they care? We're nothing in their eyes
>I think... (Write in)
>Other
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>>4019383
>If they don't we will make them
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>>4019383
>I don't know. We've done awful things with their power.
Regardless of what happens though, we can't exactly plan around it either way.
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>>4019383
>I don't know. We've done awful things with their power.

muh circle eleven
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>>4019383
>They have to. We deserve to survive, to live
"That's something I'm going to keep fighting for, with or without their 'favor'."
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>>4019383
>I think... (Write in)
"On a second thought, going deeper into that Bergmann's bullshit mysticism with gods, fates and destinies doesn't help any right now. It's sentient, I've felt its curiosity. We either find a way to communicate or wash our hands and watch the fireworks."
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>>4019383
>They will. We kicked ass.
>I just don't think that their favor will be as great as we want it to be.
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“I don't know,” you admit, “We've done awful things with their power. We've wounded ourselves, our whole world, and for what? Fear and suspicion, petty delusions of control? If you look at what we've done, I don't know if we're worth their favour. Whether they give it to us or not, we can't give up. We need to survive, with or without them. They'll have to see that, and maybe... just maybe they'll see something of worth in us.”

Claudia holds her tongue, studying you with curious eyes. “You said we're being watched, studied, by something. By Adam, maybe,” you continue, “If they're watching us, we can get through to them somehow. We can communicate with them, make our case that way. They have to be listening!”

“I believe in you,” Claudia says quietly. You turn, her words taking you by surprise. “That's what you said to me, isn't it?” she explains, “You believed in me, believed that I was capable of beating this stupid bloody leg. Nobody has ever said anything like that to me before, not even Hester. It's not exactly redeeming the whole species, but that has to mean something. WE have to mean something” Her words are cut off as the ground shakes, one of the hulking ADM Units looming over the manor and staring down upon you. “Did you hear that?” she shouts, glaring up at the giant, “We're worth something! We deserve to survive, to live, and that's what we're going to do, no matter what you think about us!”

Does it hear you? Does it understand you? It just stares, the lidless eyes boring into you with a cold absence of soul or empathy. Yet, you stand your ground and glare back, holding your ground before the looming monster. The silence draws out but something, like the wind twisting to blow from a new direction. Claudia gasps, feeling the same thing you do, and the ADM begins to reach down. Open, grasping, the fleshy paw descends down towards you. Refusing to give an inch, you spread your arms wide and welcome it.

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Metal squeals, and light pours down upon you. A silhouette, framed against the white light. Wiping LCL from your face, you blink until the shape resolves into a familiar form. Vic. He reaches down, offering out a hand to you. With that, you realise that the siren has stopped, that the Colossus has grown still. You can still hear the muffled roar of wind and the rattle of rain, but the emergency seems to be over. “That's right,” Vic assures you, reading the look on your face, “Whatever you did, it worked.”

“I don't know WHAT I did,” you gasp, allowing him to pull you from the entry plug. It's tough, with the low ceiling of the maintenance tunnel getting in the way, but you manage in the end. “Don't get too close,” you warn, watching the LCL drip from your clothes, “I probably stink right now.”

“Well. Maybe a little,” Vic concedes, “But I don't mind. You're still in one piece, after all.”

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>>4019523

“What was it like?” Doctor Bergmann insists, “You must tell us everything.”

“I don't know what to tell you. It was... different. I've made contact with Unit 02 before, even spoken with it in a way, but this was something else. There was something watching us, studying us maybe. It never really talked back, but sometimes there were... images in my head. It put them there, I'm sure of it,” you explain, trying to find the right words for it, “Was that Adam? Was he really listening to us?”

“Perhaps,” Bergmann muses, looking faintly disappointed by your explanation, “Or maybe he just studied you, realised that you weren't Lilim. Regardless, it was a successful experiment – the ADMs returned to their slumber shortly after you entered your entry plugs, and we were able to reach Temple. I hope you remembered to pack your waterproofs, by the way.”

You don't need to ask why. The rain is still hammering down on the Colossus, the force of it almost shaking the entire craft. It's a good thing you're not here for a holiday, or you'd be pretty pissed off about it.

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It's been a while, but you recognise Ronnie Laing at a glance. The same lazy eyes and genial smile that you remember, although his face seems to lighten when he sees Doctor Bergmann standing on the carrier's deck. Pulling the hood of his slate grey raincoat lower on his face, he waves towards the open door and ushers you inside. Just grateful to be out of the foul weather, you barely bother trying to eavesdrop on the hushed conversation playing out ahead of you. Chances are, you wouldn't understand a word they were saying either way.

“Excuse me,” Brahms calls out, interrupting the secretive conversation, “I want to speak with Doctor Kendrick. Is he available?”

Laing turns, his face growing pale at the mention of the name. “No sir,” he answers slowly, “No he is not.”

“I was told he was transferred here. Recently,” Brahms snaps, “Are you telling me he's been moved already?”

“No sir,” Laing repeats, “No, he was not. He went into Adam's grave to “run a few tests”, I believe he said.” Silence. Brahms just scowls, impatiently gesturing for Laing to get to the point. He doesn't say a word, silently guiding you into one of the unused labs. You're not really sure if you're supposed to be here, but they don't chase you out or protest when you take a seat. So, apparently you're part of this very exclusive club.

“And?” Brahms prompts eventually, “He went to run his tests, and then what?”

Silence. Laing looks aside to Bergmann, waiting for her signal before continuing. Bergmann nods curtly, wordlessly urging the man to speak. Seeing this, Laing heaves a heavy sigh.

For some strange reason, you're not expecting good news.

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>>4019847

“He went to run his tests,” Laing explains, “And he didn't come back. He was tampering with the mechanisms in there, and I guess something backfired. I told him it was a bad idea, but he didn't listen. His mistake, I guess. Now, the whole area is locked down. Too dangerous for anyone to go inside. Even you, Doc.”

“We'll see about that,” Bergmann mutters, “I need to get inside and take a look, see what kind of damage that buffoon might have. Talk to whoever is calling the shots around here, make whatever security arrangements you have to. Damn it, we're so close now! We can't let an idiot like Kendrick ruin this for-”

A quiet shuffling sound at the doorway. You all turn to see Johanna peeking around the edge of the door, her eyes wide and fascinated. Nobody quite knows how to react, but Bergmann herself is first to move. To rise from her chair with a clatter. “Out!” she snaps, pointing at Johanna, “Get out!”

“But...” Johanna protests, “But Mama-”

“I told you not to call me...” Bergmann interrupts, jabbing her finger towards the doorway, “Now get OUT! Go back to the Colossus and STAY THERE!”

Johanna recoils in horror, flinching back from the sudden shouting. Then turning, she flees out into the corridor beyond as Bergmann collapses back down into her seat. Brahms is stunned, silent, while Laing gawks in confusion. You can't really blame him for that. You're just as confused yourself, unsure of what to do. What you're supposed to do. You...

>Adam is the priority here. You need to focus on the task at hand
>Bergmann just fucked up. You can't let her talk to Johanna like that
>Johanna shouldn't be alone right now. You need to go after her
>Other
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>>4019851
>Bergmann just fucked up. You can't let her talk to Johanna like that
I don't think Holly is in a position to give parenting advice, but one has to wonder why Bergmann is carting Johanna around and treats her like some sort of pet. Does she really believe that Johanna is not conscious? She doesn't look too lucid to me, but this is all very strange.
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>>4019851
>Johanna shouldn't be alone right now. You need to go after her
Bergmann's doing to her what Holly's mom done to us.
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>>4019851
>Bergmann just fucked up. You can't let her talk to Johanna like that
>Johanna shouldn't be alone right now. You need to go after her
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>>4019851
>Bergmann just fucked up. You can't let her talk to Johanna like that.
Is she actually planning on killing us all? After this is all over she is going to have to pick up the pieces of whatever is actually left for her, she gets that right, she was so devastated that Matheson would stoop so very low, She does understand that if she burns this bridge it's never going to be the same, and is extremely lucky that she even gets the chance to do so.
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>>4019851
>Bergmann just fucked up. You can't let her talk to Johanna like that
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You almost flee after her, almost flee from the stifling room as much for your own sake as for hers. Anything to be out of this all too familiar mess. Yet, like an old comforting friend, the anger is there to answer your confusion. “What the FUCK was that?” you snap, slamming your hand down on the desk, “How could you talk to her like that? I knew you were cold, Bergmann, but I didn't think you were-”

“Stop!” she hisses, holding up a hand. Hating yourself for obeying, you stare at her as she gestures curtly to the others. “Go,” she demands, “Both of you. GO.”

Brahms is happy to obey, but Laing lingers. “Hey, uh, doc?” he begins, “Did she just say... is that your kid?”

Bergmann scowls at him for a long moment, but Laing manages to hold his ground. “No,” she says at last, “Now get out of here. You've got access clearance to arrange, remember?” Throwing his hands up in disgust, Laing admits defeat and slouches out. Soon, it's just you and Bergmann facing each other across the table. “I don't want that girl here,” she points out, “I don't want her being a part of this.”

Then why bring her here at all?

“That girl?” you repeat, “She's your daughter, isn't she?”

“No, she isn't. She's a genetic match, and she has the memories that... that she should have. But I didn't bring that child into this world. She isn't the same,” Bergmann answers coldly, “I don't wish her any ill. I want her to be happy, to lead a proper and fulfilling life, but that's it. I won't pretend that she's something she's not. In either case, what business is it of yours?”

“It's my BUSINESS because I feel sorry for her, having to deal with a bitch like you!” you snap back, “If you don't want her, why bring her here? Why treat her like some obedient lapdog, expecting her to follow your fucking orders? You should have just walked away, let her live her life without you – that's what you did before, isn't it?”

Bergmann recoils as if slapped, her eye widening. With a taste like bile, the old familiar pleasure rises up in your throat. You've HURT her, as deeply as if you'd taken a knife to her. Well, too bad for her, but she doesn't get to play the victim. Not after everything she's done.

>Ego increased by 5
>Current Ego: 70/70

“You don't understand,” Bergmann whispers at last, “You can't... A girl like you-”

“A girl like WHAT?” you snarl, “I can understand that you're torturing that girl, keeping her on a short leash but never letting her get close. You're the one who doesn't understand, doesn't understand what that can do to a person. You don't understand a goddamn thing.”

Holding your gaze for a long moment, Bergmann points to the door. “Go then,” she rasps, “If I don't understand, then you're wasting your time by talking to me. You want to go after her, don't you? Well, go ahead. Don't let me stop you.”

Sparing the time to give her one last sneer, you turn and march out.

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>>4020022

Finding Johanna turns out to be easier than you expected. A short corridor away, Laing catches your eye and gestures for you to come over. Peering through the ajar door he stands beside, you see Johanna slumped on a sofa. Not crying, you don't think, but just... numb with shock. “I recognise her. She was one of ours,” Laing murmurs, “But man, I never thought she was... We were just given a sample, told to get a body ready. Never saw the need to ask questions. Hell, I never even knew she had a kid.”

“But she doesn't,” you remark, your voice thick with bitter sarcasm, “Didn't you hear her?”

“Yeah, no. Nobody reacts like that if they're not...” Laing sighs, shrugs, “Well hey, it's none of my business. Could you have a word with her? I'm no good with kids.”

Grimacing, you ease yourself into the room and sit down beside Johanna. She tenses up, then relaxes once she sees it's you. Laing asked you to talk to her, but where do you even begin? As you're trying to untie this terrible knot, Johanna breaks the silence. “I don't understand her. I don't... know who she is,” the young girl admits, “Mama... Papa always said she was a good heart, a kind heart. I never imagined she could be so cruel.”

“Yeah,” you reply weakly, “She's a real piece of work.”

“Papa told me she was a teacher! She... she volunteered!” Johanna protests, the words wrenched out of her as tears, long held back, spill out from her. A strange transformation seems to creep over her as she cries, the old blankness melting away from her face to reveal something raw, something natural. Something REAL. “Why is she pushing me away? Why did she leave me? Wasn't I good enough for her?” she cries, “Don't I deserve her love?”

You can't speak, can barely breathe around the hard lump in your throat. You could be hearing yourself speak, hearing the words you thought all too often when you were living at home. No longer trusting your words, you simply put an arm around Johanna's slender shoulders. She collapses into you, clinging tightly to your body and burying her face in your chest. Even though her voice is muffled, you can still feel her shuddering against you.

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A sleepless night, that night. In the morning, a cold wait on the deck of the ship as you watch the helicopter descend. You're going to visit Adam's grave, to get as close as you possibly can to ground zero. Brahms wants to study it, but god only knows what Bergmann wants to do. Fletcher mentioned, in a disarmingly casual way, that he would be providing protection. Now, you're wondering exactly what he meant by that. Protecting who from what?

Bergmann hasn't said a word since you first saw her, her eye fixed stubbornly on the distance. Just from listening in, you assume there was more trouble with the ADMs last night. It's happening more and more often now.

This can't go on.

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>>4020159
Is it time for us to project our own mommy issues onto Bergmann here?
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>>4020022
>She's a genetic match, and she has the memories that... that she should have. But I didn't bring that child into this world. She isn't the same

Sorry, I'll have to go on an autistic tangent.
If not for that (presumable) scar, would she be able to tell the difference? This is sort of related to her understanding of Ego and the whole related AT-field metaphysics. If there are 'souls' which can be completely separate from bodies (brain death doesn't kill it, stored completely elsewhere), then of course, replica doesn't cut it, because she would have her own 'soul'. Still it's a weak excuse for the behavior, but at least she could honestly say 'not the same'.
But if 'souls' and 'egos' are created merely by the patterns of matter and some internal processes (presumably even LCL can do this), then as long as the matter in question exists and believes itself to be some person, then it is that person. People usually don't abandon their children after head trauma, for instance. More radical stance could be taken if we consider that person goes to sleep, has its brain altered slightly and it's a different person the next morning. Even more radical stance is that these alterations happen constantly and a person only imagines and remembers itself constantly and that image is also changing. In which case, the question 'are these the same girls' is not appropriate in general. Funnily enough, this makes Holly's point of view of keeping humanity kind of moot, since they change anyhow.
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>>4020243
Do we have anything that definitively confirms that the Johanna we have here with us, is actually the clone and not the original, and that Matheson didn't just use Biomass to fix her scar and kill the clone that she had commissioned, we are still missing the link as to how she had her consciousness transferred between the two bodies?

Also doesn't this prove that we could bring Claire or Wilson and his daughter back really easily.
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>>4020256
>“I recognise her. She was one of ours,” Laing murmurs, “But man, I never thought she was... We were just given a sample, told to get a body ready. Never saw the need to ask questions. Hell, I never even knew she had a kid.”
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>>4020261
Yes, we know that the clone of Johanna was produced at Temple at some point, but how do we know that the one with us currently is the clone and not the original, if the Biomass was able to help Matheson fight of her Cancer, why wouldn't it also be able to fix a scar?
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>>4020285
Matheson didn't know about the scar. That's why she was annoyed that Bergmann wasn't convinced by the copy back at the cabin. This isn't the real Johanna and I think the real one passed away along with her father. Nothing has indicated otherwise. Ask Moloch at the end of the session if you need clarification.
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>>4020299
So Matheson, somebody who absolutely hates Bergmann, isn't able to think on her feet, or able to lie convincingly, imagine if this is what actually happened and Bergmann found out
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>>4020256
That would imply that Matheson cared for someone else other than her own pet demon, which is unlikely.

I wrote 'presumable' because there could be other details, and I wouldn't put it past Bergmann to start choking even the 'same' daughter in that situation. At least this mystery is cleaned up, it is a clone.
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>>4020337
We do have some of Matheson's memories floating around, i'm sure if we wanted to we could interrogate it some more to find out,
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So, I'm not going to be able to complete this next section tonight. It worked out being longer than I expected, and I'd rather hold off until tomorrow for a short session to neaten it up. I apologise for the sudden stop. I'll try to clarify a few things, but I'm planning for an IC explanation later.

The current Johanna is a clone, that's confirmed, with the same memories as the original. To that end, she could be seen as the "same" person. Bergmann's objection to this is more to do with Bergmann herself than anything to do with Johanna. Again, I'll be hoping to explain this fully IC, probably tomorrow.

Thank you for your contributions today, and I'm sorry for the sudden pause
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>>4020358
Thanks for running!

We shall wait warmly.
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>>4020358
Thanks for the run.
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>>4020358
Thanks for running!

Have we uh actually ever introduced ourselves to Johanna? I didn't expect her to feel relaxed around us like that since I think we only were around her when we calmed down Ava. Maybe offscreen?
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>>4020358
Thanks for running. It's really interesting to read and fun to speculate about.

>>4020392
In the OP post
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>>4020397
Oh I totally forgot that. Thanks
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Adam's grave has changed a lot since you last saw it. A rather hasty observation chamber has been constructed inside the main chamber itself, overlooking the great tree and Adam's remains. Inside, the very laws of physics are coming undone – rocks float, loose dirt orbits the tree, and light bends strangely through the creeping pockets of mist. A secondary elevator leads down into the chamber, but the warning sign is clear. Danger of death, it reads, no unauthorised access.

“Look at it,” Bergmann breathes, finally breaking her silence as she looks out over Adam's remains, “My work. They've... they've butchered it!”

Her “work”, you assume, is the metal contraption clinging to the side of the great tree. Not entirely unlike the entry plug to an ADM, in fact, but with a crude and improvised appearance. Loose wires and tubes dangle free, and nameless devices cling like metallic tumours. Somewhere inside it all, at the heart of all this chaos, Nate lies in wait.

“At present, the structure is containing Adam's AT Field. However, as the field grows in strength this may – will – change. Already, several of the more sensitive staff here are beginning to notice strange phenomenon,” Brahms explains, his eyes flicking from one computer screen to the next, “At this rate, we have a matter of days to find a solution. It would have been longer, but the machinery seems to be... malfunctioning.”

Vic brushes past you, pressing himself up against the wide observation window. “Nate!” he cries out, smacking the toughened glass with the palm of his hand, “Nate, please, you have to stop this!”

“Don't bother. She can't hear you,” Bergmann murmurs to herself, “Those idiots. I warned them about tampering with this. They should have listened to me.”

Brahms turns, and you see a rare fury on his face. “You know what's causing this, don't you?” he snaps, “How are we supposed to figure out a solution if you-”

“I know how to fix this,” Bergmann interrupts calmly, “I just need to remove the contact plug from Adam's remains. Like pulling a splinter from your thumb. It would have been easy, if not for this... meddling. They've really made a mess down there, and I don't think we can fix it from here. I'll need to go down there and take a look.”

“No, stop. Stop that, right now,” Fletcher growls, pointing to the elevator, “You can read that, can't you? “Danger of death”. So I suggest you start talking to Doctor Brahms, and you figure out a way to fix this from here.”

Bergmann finally looks around, giving Fletcher a pitying look. “Your concern is touching, Fletcher, but you really should stick to waving a gun about. This is outside your area of expertise. I'm the only one who really understands that machinery down there. You need an expert,” she explains, “Someone who can assess the damage, then work out a solution. You're lucky that I'm here, aren't you?”

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>>4022042

Rounding on her, Vic grabs Doctor Bergmann by the arm. “You can get Nate out of there?” he pleads, “Is that what you're saying?”

“Natasha? This isn't about her. This was never about her. She's just the catalyst,” Bergmann grimaces, painstakingly pulling her arm away from Vic, “Quentin. Exactly how dangerous is this?”

Brahms stares at her, both confused and horrified. “Very. Adam's AT Field is inherently hostile to humanity,” he manages at last, “Ego collapse would not be instantaneous, if that's what you're asking, but-”

“You know, I think we could do it,” Claire muses, her voice causing you to jolt around. “Yeah. I think it's possible. Get a camera and a radio so Doc Bergmann can tell us what to do. His AT Field is gonna suck, absolutely, but I think we can survive it,” she pauses, correcting herself, “I think YOU can survive it.”

No way. There's no way that she just said what you think she said. There's no way. As you reel, Vic pushes past you all and fumbles at the computer terminals. Coming up with a microphone, he begins to shout into it. Down in the chamber below, his magnified voice booms out. “Nate! Nate, you need to stop this!” he shouts, “I don't understand what's going on, but this has gone too far. You need to stop!”

“That's not going to work,” Claire sighs, rolling her eyes, “Nice enough lad, but terminally useless right now.”

“Oh, would you all just LISTEN to me!” Bergmann cries, her temper fraying at last, “We have days before Adam's AT Field begins to expand beyond this chamber. Days! Once that happens this situation will get exponentially worse, and you'll have less and less time to find this miracle solution you both seem to believe in. I can fix this. I KNOW I can fix this. Now are you going to step back and let me do my job?”

A stunned silence falls. Glaring around at you all, her eye blazing with a furious light, Bergmann nods curtly. “Thank you,” she stresses, turning and marching towards the elevator.

“Last chance to stop her,” Claire whispers, “I mean, if you even want to. After what she did, I wouldn't blame you if...”

>This is Bergmann's choice. Let her do what she has to do
>You can't let her do this. The time for human sacrifices is over
>There has to be some other way... (Write in)
>Other
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>>4022045
>There has to be some other way... (Write in)
Provide Claire suggestion, that we do this to the group, we could also see if we could get Unit 02 moved down here so we could use it as a bunker if things start heating up.
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>>4022045
>You can't let her do this. The time for human sacrifices is over
Well we're already obsessively self-sacrificing, what's one more rescue attempt?
Also Bergmann doesn't get to escape consequences with her death.
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>>4022045
>There has to be some other way... (Write in)
She can probably wait for ten minutes before her glorified suicide. Can Holly or maybe better Claudia get inside a Unit and try to remotely keep an AT-field? Holly can go with Bergmann then to keep that field as well.
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>>4022045
>Let her do this

Wow I wish there was another way
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>>4022045

>>4022055
>>4022116
Seconding
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Marching towards the elevator, Bergmann rips the lurid yellow warning tape away from the cage door and casts it aside, hauling the door open without even the slightest hesitation. She's really going to do this, you realise. She's not just fooling around.

“Wait! Wait, stop, just stop for one goddamn minute!” you cry out, lunging forwards and grabbing Bergmann by the arm, “I have an idea. I mean, part of an idea. You said we have time, right? Days, you said. Days! That's time enough to stop and think about this.” Falling silent here, you wait for Bergmann to slap your hand away and return to her suicide mission. Yet, she makes no such move. Slowly, she nods for you to continue. “I'm stronger than anyone else here. Got you to thank for that, doc. Point is, if you go down there, you won't come back,” you explain, “But I will. I can do it!”

Slowly, Brahms steps forwards. “I don't think you understand the situation,” he tells you, his voice surprisingly gentle, “The environment in that chamber is now antithetical to human existence. This isn't a matter of strength. It's a matter of... of fundamental physical forces! You've experienced a berserker incident, you've felt the damage it can cause. Even that pales in comparison with the forces we're talking about.”

“Holly, please, listen to what he's saying!” Vic cries, grabbing you and pulling you into a desperate embrace, “I don't want to lose you too, I don't want-”

Slowly, gently, you push him away. Then, you look sharply at Bergmann. “What if we used Unit 02 a bunker? I'd be protected inside there. Should be easy enough to get it inside, too,” you continue, pointing down to the dormant ADM Units, “You got some of those things out, didn't you?”

Bergmann's eye widens with a sudden idea. “We could use Unit 02 to study the damage up close, then prepare a solution. It would buy us a little extra time, maybe enough to...” she pauses, “But we don't know how Unit 02 would react to that environment. It's an unknown variable.”

“But it's worth a shot, isn't it? Isn't it?” you press, “I'm sick of loss, sick of human sacrifices! We've got all these tools at our disposal, so let's use them! Instead of praying to the gods for good fortune, let's make that fortune for ourselves!”

“You heard her!” Fletcher barks, causing you all to jump, “Doctor Brahms. Send word to base – we need Unit 02 prepped immediately, and we need the upper level opened up for deployment. I want this done ASAP, before anyone gets any more funny ideas. That means you, Ingrid.” Snatching his phone out of pocket, he skulks out into the corridor beyond and starts to snarl more orders into it. Looking back, you see Bergmann staring at you.

“And you,” you mutter, “You're not getting off that easily.”

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>>4022045
Another idea, are there no remote-controlled probes? The dirac sea needed a living person inside, but maybe there's a chassis or two lying around which could be used?
The worst idea, but still workable is just to use... uh... volunteers. You know, the drafted military which keeps the base guarded? Works every time with reactors.
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>>4022150
It would also be nice to get Karina here for her support skill.
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>>4022200
If I had to guess Karina isn't doing so hot over at Avalon right now. Adam's waves were debilitating her days ago and it's only gotten worse since then. Another reason to stop this.
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>>4022150

The wind plucks at your raincoat, lifting the loose garment to reveal the glossy plugsuit beneath. Even with the wind wailing away, you can barely hear it over the sound of the heavy crane hoisting Unit 02 into position. The neck armour is retracted, the entry plug exposed and waiting for you. As the crane moves Unit 02 close by, you jump across the last few inches of empty space and grab the segmented armour. Your heart pounds in your chest as the entry plug closes up around you, warm LCL flooding in like a wave.

“Radio check,” Bergmann begins, her voice clipped and businesslike, “Remember Holly. You're just acting as our eyes for now. Get us a good image of the damage, then we can plan our next move. I'm already starting to see some strange readings on Unit 02's systems. How do you feel?”

Hot blood, burning through your veins. Every nerve ending sparking like lightning.

“I'm doing okay,” you answer, “But I'm feeling it too. He... Unit 02 is definitely reacting to SOMETHING.”

A shudder runs through Unit 02 as you finish the descent. Dropping low, clawing on hands and knees like a beast, you prowl closer to Adam. A glint of metal catches your eye, and you glance down to see the sad remains of a drone – crushed, imploded, already rusting into ruin. Ignoring the lifeless husk, you creep closer to the great tree. The mechanism looks even worse up close, screens and boxy computers bulging out of the original device. Zooming in with Unit 02's optics, you slowly look the device up and down.

“I see, I see. It looks like they were trying to study the process, trying to understand it. Maybe then, they could bend it to their own purposes. Idiots!” Bergmann hisses, more talking to herself than to anyone else, “No wonder it's unstable, with the amount of crap they bolted on. Haven't these people ever heard of simplicity? Of elegance?”

“Doctor Bergmann,” Brahms chides, “Focus please.”

“Yeah, focus,” you agree, “If this junk is causing the problem, should I just rip it all off?”

“NO!” both scientists shout. There is a short pause, then Bergmann continues. “No, this needs to be done carefully. If this is connected up like I think it is, any violent removal could destroy the entire device. Get me a closer look,” she orders, “There should be an emergency release buried somewhere inside that mess... unless that bastard Kendrick ripped it out to make room for more of his crap.”

“Emergency release, right,” you mutter, making a tiny adjustment to the focus, “If we destroyed the device, though, would that make sure Adam stays asleep?”

“That device is the source of all our problems,” Brahms points out, “So yes, destroying it would put an end to this. However-”

“Don't you dare!” Bergmann interrupts, a snarl in her voice.

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>>4022254

“Don't you dare,” she repeats, her voice lowering to a vicious hiss, “Destroy that, and you can say goodbye to-”

The rest of this threat is lost as you cry out in pain, a sudden heat bursting through your entire body. Static flares across the screens around you, the world breaking up in a haze of digital snow. Without any command, Unit 02 starts to reach for the monstrous device. Forcing the giant back under your control, you slam your hands down into the soft, loamy soil and claw blindly at the dirt. Loose clods of earth float up around you, bumping off Unit 02's armoured hide and spinning wildly away. Slowly, you manage to assert dominance once more.

“It... happened... again,” you snarl, spitting the words out, “Almost lost control that time. Think Unit 02 was trying to destroy your little toy.”

“Yes. It must be reacting to Natasha – the trace amounts of Lilim material inside her,” Bergmann muses, “Just hold on a little longer, please. We're analysing the footage you captured, and I think we've got a solution. Diane managed to find some survey photographs, and we're just comparing them with the...”

A low, tortured growl escapes your throat. With faint alarm, you realise that it doesn't just feel like you're burning up from within – the LCL around you is actually starting to bubble, reeking like frying grease.

“Here!” Brahms calls out, oblivious to your desperation. A number of pictures flash up on the screen, the confused jumble of computers with one gap highlighted in red, a blueprint of what you first assume to be an emergency brake level, a scrolling list of measurements and numbers. “Holly,” Brahms continues, “You'll need to reach inside, pull the emergency release by hand. If you're fast, you should be able to make it out unharmed. As soon as the release has been pulled, this should all stop.”

Right. All sounds too good to be true, doesn't it?

>You can end this. Get out of Unit 02, pull the emergency release
>You're not taking any chances here. You can just smash the thing
>Other
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>>4022295
>You can end this. Get out of Unit 02, pull the emergency release
Gentlemen it's been an honor.
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>>4022295
>You can end this. Get out of Unit 02, pull the emergency release.
We are literally Max Ego right now, we can't be in a better position to do anything.

The only problem is going to be the fact that once we get outside of 02 we can't stop him, unless Claire intercedes.
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>>4022295
>Ask for a repetition on what happens if we just smash it real quick
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>>4022295
>>You can end this. Get out of Unit 02, pull the emergency release
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>>4022295
>Other
Retreat, form a sensible plan (more units, remote support, another drone) and try again. Bergmann implied days, unless that has changed this is nonsense.
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>>4022313
Nate's probably going to go brain dead, have her Ego collapse or something worse, and it might happen anyway.

Also we might want to have them call down the elevator as well, so we can get out of here safely if 02 does something and we can't return safely / immediately.
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“Bergmann,” you snarl, heaving in a painful breath, “What happens if we smash this? What happens?”

“What do you THINK will happen?” she snaps, “You'll be destroying something very precious, something we won't ever get back.”

“It's Nate!” Vic adds, his harried voice cutting into the radio, “She's still in there, remember? You need to get her out of there, and... and if you hurt her, I won't forgive you! I won't ever forgive you!”

Nate. The bottom falls out of your stomach as you hear that name. Shaking off the last of your doubts, you disengage the entry plug and brace yourself for the worst. A shudder runs through Unit 02 as the plug is released, thrust out into the open air, and you waste no time in barging the door open. LCL spills out, practically throwing you from the ADM and bearing you down to the ground. The soft, muddy soil is there to meet you, both to break your fall and drag you down into the mire. Struggling against the cloying grip, you-

>Intrusion detected! Ego reduced by 5
>Current Ego: 65/70

Missing time. You don't remember struggling upright, but you manage it somehow. With the swampy ground sucking at your feet, you wade towards the base of the great tree. Behind you, Unit 02 is beginning to stir. In some strange way, it reminds you of one of Karina's seizures. Just like one of her seizures, it's an omen of bad news to come. Desperately afraid of breaking something delicate, of causing some terrible feedback loop that might blow this whole place to pieces, you climb up towards the device and-

>Intrusion detected! Ego reduced by 5
>Current Ego: 60/70

You blink in confusion, suddenly confused at what you're looking at. This isn't the target Brahms showed you. This is... a different angle, you realise after a sickening second. Scurrying around the swollen mass of tubes and cables, you spot the gap – just narrow enough to slip your arm into. Pressing your body against the grinding computers, you reach in and feel blindly about. Then, from behind you, a deep rumble of metal grinding against metal.

Unit 02 rises like a drunkard, arms flailing with ponderous strength as it tries to balance. Fails to balance, falls against the great tree itself with an impact that throws you from your feet. Landing badly, you cry out in pain. Every time you try to struggle back upright, another tremor sends you collapsing back down to-

>Intrusion detected! Ego reduced by 5
>Current Ego: 55/70

It's just barely out of reach, your fingers brushing feebly against the release lever. Trying everything you can think of, twisting your body around and pressing yourself flat against the bank of computers, you somehow manage to hook one finger around the release lever. Another finger follows, although it feels like you're dislocating your shoulder to manage it. Something gives, the lever shifting slightly, but still...

Still not enough.

[1/?]
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>>4022365

Stumbling back away from you, from the great tree, Unit 02 slams into the chamber's far wall. The whole area shakes, and you collapse down once more. This time, though, you feel the lever jolt down with you. Dislodged by your fall, the stiff lever snaps down and into place. With a sudden hiss of releasing pressure, the outside edge of the device unfolds like the petals of some diseased flower.

Dimly aware of the sudden chill that sweeps through you, you collapse down to the ground and stare lifelessly up towards the ceiling. Over on the far wall, Unit 02 has slumped down in mimic of your limp form. You're not sure how long you lie there, but eventually you hear liquid footsteps squelching closer. Her face hidden behind a rubber gas mask, Bergmann leans down to peer at you. Nodding to herself, apparently satisfied with whatever she sees in you, she straightens back off and marches towards her great work.

When you next see her, Bergmann is carrying something away – your first thought is a suitcase, bulky and made from dull metal, but it looks too... serious for that. It looks like she should be carrying around a pocket nuke in that case of hers.

It's Bergmann. Maybe she IS carrying around a pocket nuke – or something even more dangerous.

>Okay, so I'm going to pause this here for today. I'll be aiming to continue this on Wednesday with another short session, then pick things up on Friday
>Thank you for your contributions today!
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>>4022398
Thanks for the run.
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>>4022398
>Over on the far wall, Unit 02 has slumped down in mimic of your limp form

I wonder if he is tired of this shit as we are.

Thanks for running
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>>4022398
>a suitcase, bulky and made from dull metal
Intriguing.
Thanks for running.
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>>4022398
Thanks for running!

Damn I thought Nate was inside the fleshy bits not the metal bits. Maybe now she's in that suitcase? Unsettling.
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There's three of you in this cabin – you, Vic, and the great Not-Here herself. You're not sure why Fletcher thought Nate's old room would be a good place for you to rest, but apparently he led you here. You say “apparently” because you don't remember any of it. Someone carried you from Adam's grave to this sad room, leaving you under Vic's watchful eye. Barely swapping a handful of words since waking up, you just... sit. And wait.

“Wish I had a change of clothes,” you remark, looking down at your plugsuit and making another attempt at conversation, “I feel as good as naked in this thing.”

Even this blatant provocation fails to get much response from Vic, a slight glance your way but nothing else. Then he tenses up as the sound of approaching footsteps reach you, a hard knock on the door following close after. Fletcher. And your luggage. Before the mercenary can get a word in, Vic has risen to his feet. “What happened to Nate?” he demands, “Why is nobody telling me... telling us... what happened to-”

Fletcher drops your bag with a heavy thud, the sound causing Vic to flinch and fall silent. “Natasha is currently missing in action,” he answers simply, “He still haven't found her.”

A splutter of incredulous laughter bubbles from your lips. “You haven't FOUND her?” you cry, “How can you...” Before you can build up any kind of momentum, the anger fades and fails within your breast. Slumping back on the thin, uncomfortable bed, you stare numbly at the metal deck underfoot. “Was there ever any chance?” you ask softly, “Did we ever have a chance of... of saving her?”

Something lands beside you with a rustle of sheets. A small digital recorder. Looking up, you see Fletcher standing over you. “I found that on Doctor Bergmann's desk. I think it was meant for you,” he explains, frowning before continuing in a defensive tone, “I wasn't searching her things. I was just-”

“Yeah, fine, great,” you interrupt, giving the recorder a disinterested glance, “Wouldn't want to piss her off, huh?”

Fletcher just gives you a sour, humourless look before turning and marching out. You let him leave, shuddering slightly once the door clanks shut. Vic looks at the recorder for a long moment before speaking up. “Do you want some time alone?” he asks, “Do you want me to... go?”

“...No,” you breathe, finally picking up the audio recorder and turning it over in your hands. Scuffed black plastic, the buttons worn smooth by long hours of use and re-use. A faint sense of nostalgia for a time you never actually experienced. Vintage electronics always do that, you've noticed.

You're stalling. Fumbling with the device for moment, you press down on the play button and Bergmann's voice whispers out into the cabin.

[1/3]
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>>4026876

“Holly. Have you heard the phrase “cognitive dissonance” before? I'm sure you have. You play the part of a thug well enough, but that's all it is. A part. An act. Even if you haven't heard of it, I'm sure you've felt it before. The discomfort that comes from holding two conflicting ideas or beliefs. That makes it sound so clinical, doesn't it? But in reality, it's a bloody and vicious feeling – like you're being torn in two, pulled apart by wild horses.”

“Johanna, then. I want to hold her close, to never let her go again, and yet I can't bear to look at her. I push her away, but then I want nothing more than to drag her back. Do you understand now? When I look at her, I see all of my sins staring back at me. I lost her once, and she won't ever let me forget that. There were so many lives lost in Second Impact, so many parents robbed of their children, yet I was given this... gift.”

“Matheson knew, that witch. She knew that Johanna would make me weak. Make me doubt myself. Well, I suppose it didn't help her very much in the end, did it?”

“The worst part, I think, is that I know you're right. Johanna was better off without me. I left her, all those years ago, to keep her safe – to keep her from being dragged into this world. Now I can see how foolish that was. She's here, and I can't bear to cut myself off again. I love her. Strip away all the denials and justifications, and that's what it comes down to. I LOVE her... and some days, I feel like it's going to destroy me. No other animal would willingly subject itself to a pain like this, but here we are. Humans truly are irrational beings, aren't they?”

“But irrational as we may be, we deserve a second chance – a chance to do things right. I don't want Johanna to grow up in a world that cowers away from inhuman monsters, from alien gods. I don't want her to live her life relying on girls like you, Holly.”

“I have an idea of what's coming, what needs to be done. I've accepted it, made peace with it. I doubt we're likely to speak again, Holly, so let me say this - This world IS worth saving. I know it doesn't often feel that way, but it's true. I hope you can understand that, one day.”

“I should cut this off here before I bore you to death. Besides, I don't know how long I can keep recording before-”

[2/3]
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>>4026880

The recording clicks off, falling silent and leaving you staring at the lifeless device. “That's IT?” you cry, anger rushing out of you like a hot wind, “She was gonna leave us with THAT? Why not something more... more important?”

“Maybe it WAS important,” Vic muses, “To her, at least.”

All too aware of the sulky scowl on your face, you look back down at the recorder. Vic's right – Bergmann must have felt this was important, if it was meant to be her last words to you. One last hand grenade thrown onto your expectations, or a desperate attempt at being understood? Yet, it seems perverse to waste her last words – what she assumed would be her last words – on you, not Johanna herself. What might the young girl make of this?

Your phone, sitting at the very top of your bag, chimes. Hastily grabbing it, you take the call without even glancing at the screen. “Holly?” Monroe asks, “Is that you?”

Monroe. Disappointing, but you don't know why. Who were you expecting?

“I think it's me,” you answer, looking around the cabin, “Hard to tell sometimes.”

A weak attempt at a laugh. “Well, I'm glad to see that you've got your sense of humour back,” Monroe offers, “Just, um, checking in. We're going to be leaving Temple pretty soon, so don't bother getting unpacked. You weren't, um, unpacking your things, were you?”

Glancing down at the untouched bag, you shake your head. Well, not that Monroe can see that, but never mind. You've got other things on your mind. “Where's Bergmann?” you ask, your voice cold, “Is she still here, or has she pulled another vanishing act?”

“She's here. In Isolation. Um, wait. I wasn't supposed to tell you that...” Monroe groans softly to herself, “Look, Holly, pretend you didn't hear that. Please. This isn't a good time, for her or for you. Just leave it be. For today, at the very least.”

Without replying, you end the call and give Vic a weary look. “She's hiding something,” you state bluntly.

“Isn't everyone?” he replies quietly.

>You should visit Monroe. Maybe she'll be more willing to talk in person
>Johanna deserves to hear this recording too. You'll take it to her
>Isolation. That's where Bergmann is, that's where you'll need to go
>There's something else... (Write in)
>Other
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>>4026880
>No other animal would willingly subject itself to a pain like this
Oh shit, Bergmann remembered the hedgehog dilemma. This is a clear precursor to tanging everyone.

>>4026883
>You should visit Monroe. Maybe she'll be more willing to talk in person
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>>4026883
>You should visit Monroe. Maybe she'll be more willing to talk in person
>Johanna deserves to hear this recording too. You'll take it to her
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>>4026883
>Isolation. That's where Bergmann is, that's where you'll need to go.
Matherson managed to bring Johanna back, somehow after she had her run into Nebrios. why can't we do the same? We managed to bring Huang back after everyone else wrote her off.
Get Vic to take the recording to Johanna.

Where is the case she recovered, we found her the first time after going bodiless, let's try it again.
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>>4026907
I was hoping we could get more information from Monroe about this whole Isolation situation before we go over there.
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>>4026913
And give Bergmann more time to do whatever it is she is doing?
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“I'm going to see her. Monroe. I don't know, I just...” you pause, gesturing vaguely, “I just want to talk to her. In person. When I answered the phone, I felt like she didn't actually want to talk. So I guess I gotta sit on her desk until she gives up.”

“That doesn't sound very comfortable. For either of you,” Vic replies dryly, but his voice is the ghost of what it should be. “I think I'll just stay here for a while,” he adds, “I need to get some rest. I don't know if I'll sleep, but... I should give it a try, at least.”

There's something big, something vast and unspoken, surrounding you both. Unable to put it into words, you reach out and place your hand on Vic's shoulder. He covers your hand with his own, and you feel the warmth of his touch. Clinging to that warmth for a few more precious seconds, you turn and march out of the cabin. You don't look back – if you did, you might never be able to break away.

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The weather, at least, has improved. The storm seems to have blown itself out while you were unconscious, leaving the air cold and fresh with the smell of salt. Without slowing down for a moment, you march across the deck of the ship and into the crooked tower looming above. Metal clanks underfoot as you take the stairs two at a time, banging hard on the door to Monroe's temporary office. “Um,” Monroe calls out, “Who is it?”

“Who do you think?” you call back.

There is a long pause. “I'm not in at the moment,” Monroe replies lamely, already sounding embarrassed by her own words. Ignoring her, you barge inside and collapse down into the chair opposite her. Practically leaping to her feet, Monroe hurries across to the door and fussily closes it. “Right, so maybe I am in,” she admits at last, “But I'm pretty busy right now. My schedule is totally booked for today. It's not easy, you know, organising our operations here. I have to-”

“I want to know what happened to Nate,” you interrupt, “Keep it as simple as possible, so even a thug like me can understand.”

Monroe opens her mouth, starts to say something, closes her mouth without a single word. “Holly, I don't know if I understand it either,” she concedes at last, “Ingrid called it a contact experiment, and she said that it was a complete success – although she didn't look very happy about it. She tried to explain, but she wasn't making much sense. I know, um, that it was an experiment. And that it involved making contact.”

“Contact,” you repeat, “With Adam.”

“I would assume so,” the commander agrees, “We thought it might improve a pilot's abilities, but we were wrong. We were wrong, and now, I don't know what's going on. How can a girl just... disappear into thin air? We didn't even find any traces of LCL, anything that might suggest ego collapse. She's just... gone.”

Gone. Disappeared. Without a trace.

[1/?]
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Actually, I think Bergmann is either dead, or she injected herself with whatever was in the case.

The last two lines of her recording makes it look like the recording shut itself off it wasn't Bergmann.

Also why else would she be in isolation, she has obviously done something to herself.
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>>4026967
Also in the 2nd recording Phantom sent us, Monroe mentions Contact Experiments. She obviously knows more, and has known about them for a very long time.

Thread #1 post >>3358456
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Bergmann: Don't smash my machine or you won't get Nate back.

Us: doesn't smash the machine, still don't get Nate back.

We lost 15 Ego for whatever shit she's pulling.
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>>4027025
She didn't say anything about Nate, that was Vic. Bergmann said that whatever was inside was valuable
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>>4027025
>Bergmann: I am going to sacrifice myself to stop machine

>Us: No more sacrifices, here is a plan

>Bergmann a few hours later: This is my final message...

Shit's hilarious. Here's hoping whatever is going on is overall beneficial.
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>>4027028
And she didn't correct Vic when he spoke up. That's still deliberately misleading us at great cost to our mind.
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>>4027030
If i had to guess Nate got subsumed by Adam, so when He wakes up because Lilith goes active Nate will had had enough of an impart herself on Adam, and since she has probably been fed false info by Bergmann. He's going to do most of the heavy lifting to achieve Bergmann's goal, except it's going to go horribly wrong somehow.
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>>4027041
Realistically If we had destroyed the machine there would be no way to get Nate back at all since she is probably lost to Adam, it would also happen to destroy the Case so they were talking past one another.

I'm sure at great Ego cost we could get her back, because we still have that old imprint of her floating around in our head, something similar to Huang's revival in methodology would probably work..
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>>4026963

“I saw Bergmann with a... a thing. A suitcase looking thing. She took it out of the device, down there in Adam's grave,” you continue, “I don't think it would have been big enough to hold Nate, even if you...” You can't bear to finish that thought aloud. The thought of anyone doing... that... to Nate's body is just too much to stomach. “She's got that thing down in Isolation, hasn't she?” you press, “Doing... god only knows what to it.”

“Yes, Ingrid is in Isolation. Yes, she has that... box with her. But I don't think she's doing anything to it,” Monroe answers, “According to our systems, none of the experimental equipment down there is in use. For all we know, she's just... I don't know, staring at it.”

It's Bergmann. That doesn't put your mind at ease in the slightest. That woman could start trouble in an empty room, and she might be doing that right this instant.

“She was desperate to get that box. When I mentioned breaking that device, she freaked out,” you mutter to yourself, shaking your head, “I mean, she was prepared to die for that crap. I risked my ass to save that thing, all because she let me think Nate was inside. She... she fucking played me!” Bringing your palm slapping down onto the desk, you give Monroe one of your best scowls. “That fucking box meant everything to her!” you snap, “So don't act like she's just... wasting time down there!”

Monroe stares at you for a long moment before reaching into her pocket and tossing down a blank card. A security pass, you'd guess. “Isolation is locked down. We have signal readings, but no camera. I don't know what she's doing down there. To be honest, I'm worried. It's not like Ingrid to be so... idle,” she says at last, “The last thing she said to be was that she wanted some time alone. She gave me the impression that it was VITALLY important that she was left alone.”

“I'm sure she did,” you agree, “And you know she was probably bullshitting you, right?”

“The possibility did cross my mind,” Monroe admits, “Look. Isolation is in strut three, so you'll need a heli to get there. I can have one prepared, but... I don't know. It'll take time. Can you wait?”

Taking the security card from the desk, you drop it into your raincoat pocket. There, it brushes against the digital recorder. “I can wait,” you assure her, “I've got something I need to take care of first.”

Reaching for her phone, Monroe pauses. “I know that Ingrid has done bad things, terrible things. I have no right to defend her, or to try and justify what she's done. I won't even try,” she murmurs, “But she was willing to give her life for this, whatever it is. That has to mean something, right?”

“Oh, it means something,” you snap back, “Doesn't have to be something good, though, does it?”

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Why is Monroe so sure that she isn't just running from the consequences of her actions?
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>>4027086
I'm not getting that impression.
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>>4026963
>How can a girl just... disappear into thin air?
Gee, Monroe, I don't know. It's not like this happened for the first time. What happened to Reed, then, care to explain?

I think that what's happening is that Bergmann is preparing a Dummy Plug to shove into Adam. Then the world would not need to rely on girls like her and somehow everything would be fixed somehow.

>>4027079
>I don't know. It'll take time. Can you wait?
Ideally you'd just order her to be restrained and separated from the box by the guards in the Isolation and wait for our arrival, but noooo, there's a heli, it need time.
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>>4027098
>What happened to Reed, then, care to explain?
Ego collapse. She said there was no evidence of Ego collapse with Nate.
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>>4027113
Nate is likely either, Stuck in the Box, the Tree or gone completely.
We should be able to check on the Box and Bergmann simultaneously while we are waiting for Helicopter if we go bodiless, assuming Isolation isn't shielded like Adam's chamber.
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>>4027125
We should wait and go physically first. We have no idea how all this AT/Adam/Isolation stuff will effect our bodiless form. Let's work through the normal options first.
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>>4027130
But do we even have the time for that, the longer we wait the more likely something is going to go wrong.
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>>4027079

There's no such thing as a luxury cabin on an old military ship like this, but Johanna got the closest thing to one. Thick sheets pad out the meagre bed, while a stack of mismatched books spills across the floor. Sitting in a cocoon of blankets with just her face and hands visible, Johanna reads from a tattered book. A fishing manual, apparently. Not exactly thrilling reading, but she seems interested. Interested enough that you have to clear your throat to get her attention, at least.

“Fishing,” you begin, pointing to the book, “Hobby of yours?”

“Yes,” Johanna answers haltingly, “Papa taught me how to fish. We always went fishing on the weekends, no matter what the weather was like. That was our special time. When we were in the other place, the city, Mama said she would take me fishing one day. When all this is over, she said, but I don't know what that means. Is this ever going to be over?”

If you could answer that question, you would. Coming up empty-handed, you take out the digital recorder instead. “I have a message from Doctor... from your mother,” you tell the young girl, delicately placing the recorder down beside her, “She left it for me, but I think you should hear it too. I won't force you to listen, but it's here if you want it.”

Slowly, Johanna's hand creeps out from the thick layer of blankets and brushes against the recorder. She strokes it, caresses it, but never quite gathers up the courage to play the recording. “Thank you,” she whispers, “I don't know how I can... ah. When all this is over, I'll take you fishing. Okay?”

“Sounds great,” you agree, forcing a smile, “When all this is over. But, uh, I need to get moving. I've got some important stuff to do. I don't know if anyone's told you yet, but I'm kind of a big deal around here.”

Johanna nods happily, gigging a little at your boast. Holding her gaze for a moment more, you turn and leave her to her reading. As you're leaving, you hear a click and a familiar voice.

“Holly. Have you heard the phrase “cognitive dissonance” before? I'm sure you have...”

>I'm going to have to pause this here, I'm totally wrecked today. I should be able to continue this on Friday, though
>Thank you for your patience today!
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>>4027135
I think this assumption that something is going to blow up in a short time is clouding our decision making.
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>>4027153
Thanks for the run.
I wonder what kind of weird fish we're going to find after 3rd impact occurs.


We probably shouldn't have left her all alone, to hear the recording. She's is totally going to come after us, to try and help isn't she.
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>>4027154
Anon, Bergmann has gone off on her own taking the Case that she retrieved from the one thing she has been planning since before we meet her, and she left us what basically amounts to a glorified suicide note. Something is going to happen if she is left to her own devices for too long, Any sort of delay that we take is going to bite us in the Ass.
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>>4027167
>I wonder what kind of weird fish we're going to find after 3rd impact occurs.
I wonder if Johanna will be the one to fish it out

My guess is that Bergmann is going to give her body as Tang material so Nate gets a working vessel to use.
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>>4027251
>Any sort of delay that we take is going to bite us in the Ass.

Delay in what? Are you going to fucking melt her because she'll be doing *something* to the briefcase? Are you going to interrupt something you know nothing about, something that requires an isolation chamber because you're so damn impatient you can't wait the 15 minutes to move to another strut? Hell there is a decent chance it could be beneficial for us, but no we have to kick down the door cause it's the evil witch Bergmann!

>Bergmann has gone off on her own taking the Case that she retrieved from the one thing she has been planning since before we meet her

Right that plan she already told us hinges on Holly's will to enact it. Let's also ignore the fact that she was about to sacrifice herself earlier to turn off the machine. You know, death, that thing that kind of stops her from picking up the case afterwards. Totally selfishly motivated Bergmann is right now huh? I also need to point out that your assumption assumes that all the options earlier were trap options made to waste our time and the only way to stop whatever you think is happening was to use a write in and that's never how Moloch has QMed ever. Even the 'Go to Bergmann now' option still would have needed a helicopter ride. So slow the fuck down, investigate a little more, and exhaust our options in the physical world before shoving our ghost head into everything and potentially fucking up things worse.
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>>4027366
All we need to do while bodiless would be to figure out where Bergmann actually is and how to get to her minimizing the time we would need to use to find out the info once we get there, and if we were start picking up on any sort of activity that would be harmful to our Ego, all we should do is wait for the Helicopter to touch down before continuing on foot.

In order to not have us rush to her position would been actually and coherently explain what she is planing doing and how it would play into what she wants to happen with the note she left.


We literally have gone over previously (Here >>4027028 ) that Bergmann talks past people, and doesn't always answer the questions that you ask she reinterprets the question and responds in such a way that you can't tell.
Just because we eventually will have the final say in how things doesn't mean that she won't set things up to play out in such a way to have us be more likely to pick her choice.
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>>4028053
>All we need to do while bodiless would be to figure out where Bergmann actually is

There is no question about where she is. Monroe and the team have been monitoring her. We are being led to her currently.
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>>4028097
Honestly at this point you would think that someone would actually ask Bergmann for an explanation as to what she is doing, instead of rolling over and letting her do whatever she wants, The Council had her on a short chain for a very good reason.

Maybe we should see if we can get into contact with Brahms or Laing, on the way there and see what their position on all of this is.
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>>4028104
Also another thing to ask about if we can is what Unit Nate was slated to use and what her compatibility was last time we checked, since we don't have any that are both combat ready but don't have pilots. Having her do all of this is completely unnecessary, especially since we know through both Huang and Coraline that using Lilium biomass works to increase a pilots score. Unless they were trying to get her to Pilot Adam, himself or something.

Another thing that doesn't make sense is why they didn't create a clone (Either of Nate, or engineer one themselves) to be used for this, instead they jump straight to live trials, even when they know what happened to Reed, if anything this lines up perfectly with what they did to her since i doubt that they found her LCL. Since Coraline found Reed, eventually. We should get around to checking Adam's grave, while bodiless just to make sure.
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“What's with that frown?” Fletcher asks, raising an eyebrow as you march towards the waiting helicopter, “You're not happy to see me?”

“Not especially,” you snap, “I was expecting a babysitter, but I was hoping for someone else. You're on HER side.” Pushing past the mercenary, you haul yourself into the helicopter and sit heavily in one of the bucket seats. “Well, fine. I guess we're stuck with each other,” you continue, snapping the safety harness closed, “We're behind schedule already, so just strap yourself in and let's get this over with.”

-

Isolation. The word makes you think of some deep, dark pit somewhere, maybe at the very bottom of a mineshaft. The sort of place that you'd use to dump radioactive waste and hopefully never look at it again. Here, the word just means the guts of a vast ship, albeit sealed behind a seriously hardcore door. Fletcher seems a little surprised when you take out a security card of your own, but he doesn't say anything and simply watches as you swipe the card through the reader. Locks cycle, with the sort of metallic clank you'd normally associate with a bank vault.

Cavernous, and almost pitch black, the Isolation chamber stretches out before you. The walls are lined with dangerously uneven stacks of old equipment, old computers and more arcane gear threatening to collapse down at the slightest touch. A single lamp burns at the far end of the hold, the light causing Bergmann's long shadow to stretch out and merge with the gloom. She's sitting down next to her precious box, slumped motionless across it, and you feel a stir of unease as you wait for any sign of life.

Fletcher gestures for silence as you approach Bergmann, but you barely notice him. A few steps more, and the world seems to swim around you. A second image, like a heat haze, overlaps the darkened hold. One moment everything is normal, a metal deck underfoot and leaning stacks of crates either side of you, and then everything changes. You see tall marble pillars and light from flaming torches, you hear a pulsing drumbeat. Before, you saw Bergmann sitting over the box. Now, you see a robed priestess standing aloft over a slaughtered, sacrificed, bull. Blood drips from her hands, and-

“Thank you, Fletcher,” Bergmann announces suddenly, and reality collapses back down onto you, “But you can leave us now.”

“I don't think that's a good idea,” Fletcher counters, placing a heavy hand on your shoulder, “I think I should be here.”

“I'm sure you do, but that really doesn't matter. Leave us, please,” the scientist insists, her voice calm and polite, “You wouldn't want me to let your big secret slip, would you?”

Fletcher is silent for a long time before he takes his hand from your shoulder. “Have it your way, then,” he mutters, turning and leaving you alone with the doctor.

[1/2]
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>>4032437

“Come over here,” Bergmann urges. She's yet to look around, yet to take her eyes off the box. Now that you're a little closer, you can see that the box is open. Hesitantly, you creep over and finally take a look at what it contains, only to draw back with a sharp stab of fear. Inside, you see what seems to be a Lilim core – a black sphere, the liquid surface pulsing with a soft inner light. Wrestling with both fear and fascination, you reach out your hand to touch it.

When your fingers brush against hard glass, you snap back to your senses. It's not a Lilim core, you're sure of that much, but it's something... else.

“This is the weapon that will kill Lilith, once and for all,” Bergmann whispers, stroking the glass, “The weapon capable of harnessing Excalibur's true form. The Saturnalia Engine. Engine? Organ, perhaps. The line between the two has become blurred.”

“Where's Nate?” you murmur, spitting the words out through gritted teeth, “What did you do to her?”

Bergmann lets out a soft, almost silent sigh. “You're looking at her,” she breathes, nodding down to the organ, “No human – not even you – can survive sustained contact with Adam's power, but that power is necessary. Without it, we can never reach our true potential. And so, a vessel was needed – a means for Unit 02 to safely harness Adam's power. Natasha... she wanted to protect mankind, and she was prepared to offer up her life to that end.”

“Not like this!” you cry, your voice echoing around the hold, “You... you butchered her!”

At long last, Bergmann looks around at you. “Yes, I did,” she admits, “What I've done is unforgivable, I realise that, but this is the only way. Without this sacrifice, mankind will be trapped in this cycle forever. Do you see now why I couldn't let the Saturnalia Engine be lost? Lilith must be destroyed, no matter the cost. Now, you and Unit 02 will have the chance.”

“Why me?” you whisper, the strength bleeding out of your words, “Why does it have to be me?”

“Because of the bond that exists between you and Natasha,” she says simply, “You're already connected. Her power will be yours to wield.”

The bond. The bond that SHE created. “Even back then...” you begin, trying to force your thoughts into words, “Even back then, you were planning this. You knew she was going to... you knew THIS would happen, and you still managed to look her in the eye. To hell with the Lilim, you're the REAL monster!”

Closing her eye, Bergmann lets out a soft sigh. “I've never denied that,” she points out, “I know exactly what I've done, the number of lives I've ruined for this future. I was prepared to give my own life for it too. I know the cost has been high, but Lilith MUST be destroyed – nothing else matters.”

>I just... wish it didn't have to be this way
>You're wrong. NATE matters!
>I can't use this weapon. I refuse to use it
>I... (Write in)
>Other
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>>4032439
>You're wrong! NATE matters!

>I can't use this weapon. I refuse to use it.

WELP. Wish I could say I was surprised.
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>>4032439
>I can't use this weapon. I refuse to use it
You are not the first to have told me that I will need more power, and you won't be the last, it has never been about where we end up, only how we get there, if we need to always live in the shadows of giants let it be so, it's no skin off my back.

We should ask why she couldn't have just used a clone.


This is what happens when you go ahead and do things, before you make sure that others are Ok with having these thing done in their name.
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>>4032439
>You're wrong. NATE matters!
"Don't give me that bullshit that she 'chose' this. You taught me that lesson well with Huang that you can ask for permission but the answer will always be yes. We both know she would have agreed to anything if she thought it could help us."

>I just... wish it didn't have to be this way
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“You're wrong,” you whisper, finding new resolve in that simple, blunt denial, “NATE matters! Don't act like she agreed to this – she would have agreed to anything if she thought it would help us. She never signed up for THIS!” Tearing your gaze away from Bergmann, you stare back down into the box, staring at the Saturnalia Engine. As if reacting to your anger, the surface of the orb seems to be rippling more than before. “Why did it have to be her?” you add, “You had this whole facility, you could have... you could have made another!”

“And destroy that one instead?” Bergmann asks quietly, “Would that be better?”

“That's not what I meant!” you snap, “I meant... I mean...”

“In either case, that was the first thing we tried. It didn't work. The construct couldn't withstand contact with Adam. It simply disintegrated. No matter what we tried, it was a flaw we couldn't overcome. A flaw with their biology, with the salvaged shreds of their personality, with some other aspect of their nature...” she shakes her head, “But I think it's simpler than that. Natasha had a stronger will, a stronger connection to the world. No matter how real they are, those dolls could never match that.”

But you've seen Juliet, seen her change into something more than what she originally was. The doll became a real girl – but then, she would still be sending a girl to their death for the sake of this fucking weapon. No matter which way you look at it, it's a trap you can't escape from.

“I just can't use it,” you insist, pulling your hand away from the box, “I can't! Not knowing what it is, where it came from. I refuse.”

“You can't!” Bergmann snaps, her eye widening as you see, at last, a flash of alarm, “You're the only one who can wield this weapon. We NEED this!” She stands, grabbing you by the arms and looking down on you with a blazing light in your eye. “You understand that, don't you? Lilith has to be destroyed, and this is the only way...” her voice trails off here, her lips twisting down in a grimace. “Then all this has been for nothing,” she breathes, “If you refuse this, Natasha will have died for no reason. You'll be throwing away her life.”

“No doc,” you spit, jerking away from her grip, “You managed that all by yourself.”

Turning your back on her, you begin to march for the exit. Bergmann shouts after you, her voice ringing off the metal walls. “You know I'm right!” she yells, “You can't turn your back on this, Holly! You know that this is the only way!”

Squaring your shoulders and ignoring her words, you take out the security pass and swipe it through the lock. You get it open eventually, but it takes you a few tries.

Your hands are shaking.

[1/?]
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>>4032475
Realistically speaking, she is probably right.
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>>4032485
I think that eventually there would come a point when that even after all this nothing would change, in the grand scheme of things, since all humanity seems to be able to do is throw everyone else under the bus.

I have a feeling that Fletcher secret is that he has known what would happen for quite some time.
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>>4032475

You manage to make it all the way up to the deck before you lose control, your stomach lurching abruptly. Hurrying over to the railings, you lean out and vomit into the ocean below. You keep thinking of Bergmann, imagining her methodically searching for a suitable sacrifice – the perfect mix of gullibility and desperation. With the patience of a spider, she sat on her web and drew up her plan. No matter how virtuous her goals might be, this is just... too much.

With the sour taste of bile in your mouth, you stumble back from the railings and collapse down onto the deck. After who knows how long, a pair of heavy boots stomp into your field of view. Crouching down, Fletcher studies you for a moment before gently easing you back to your feet. “I'm surprised,” he grunts as he lifts you up, “You haven't asked me about it yet.”

“I don't care,” you rasp, leaning away from him and spitting, “Asked you what?”

“What my big secret is,” Fletcher answers, “It's my name. My first name. I've always been embarrassed by it.”

Looking around, you give Fletcher a confused scowl. He's looking straight ahead, his expression perfectly serious – solemn, even. This has to be some attempt at cheering you up, at distracting you, but you're too tired to object. “So you don't like your name. Big deal,” you mutter, allowing him to help you into one of the helicopter's seats, “You could just change it, you know?”

“I know. I've thought about it, but it's not easy. It's the name my parents gave me. It means something to me,” the mercenary thinks aloud, sitting down opposite you and gazing into space, “Sometimes in life, you're dealt a bad hand. You've just got to deal with it the best you can. That's what it means to me.”

“You've just got to deal with it the best you can,” you repeat numbly, “You mean like, by changing your name?”

“Look, that's not...” Fletcher grimaces, “Fine. So metaphors were never really my strong point. What I mean is-”

“Why didn't anyone STOP her?” you interrupt, giving him an almost pleading look, “Why was Bergmann allowed to get away with this? Why didn't someone step in sooner?”

With a soft grunt of dismay, Fletcher avoids your gaze. It takes him a long time to answer your question. Maybe he's asked himself the same question, you wonder, and maybe he couldn't answer it then either. “It's... complicated,” he offers at last, “The truth is, we're all complicit in this. Ingrid said that she had a way of ending this war, and nobody questioned it – nobody WANTED to question it. We wanted the same thing as her, but we didn't want to dirty our hands. So, we turned our backs and let her do her work. Out of sight, out of mind. That's no excuse, but there it is.”

“There it is,” you repeat, “The world really is full of shit.”

“Yeah,” Fletcher agrees, “It really is.”

[2/3]
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>>4032529

You're not really sure how it happens, but you haltingly explain Nate's situation to Fletcher. He listens carefully, for once setting aside the mask of careful neutrality that you've grown used to seeing. First confused, then sickened, and finally settling on bleak acceptance, he considers your words. “I hate to say it,” he concludes, “But she might have a point. If this... weapon... is the only thing capable of destroying Lilith once and for all, we may not have a choice.”

“But we can pacify her, can't we?” you insist, “The control rods...”

“It's true, those should serve to keep Lilith under control, but then what? We'd be living under her shadow, and the system would just keep perpetuating itself,” the mercenary murmurs, “And if something went wrong...”

“Cognitive dissonance,” Claire remarks, leaning over your shoulder, “What did Bergmann call it? The discomfort that comes from holding two conflicting ideas or beliefs? Seems pretty appropriate right now – we know she's right, that Lilith must die, but we can't accept her methods. Discomfort... that's an understatement!”

Numbly shaking your head, you try to ignore her. Fletcher, taking your gesture for something else entirely, gets up and moves to speak with the helicopter pilot. A few seconds later, the engine shudders into life.

-

It's only a short hop, from one ship to another, but that's enough time for a new idea to strike you. “Vic. Oh god,” you breathe, flinching as the helicopter bumps heavily onto solid ground, “What am I going to tell him?”

“The truth?” Claire suggests. That whole “ignoring her” thing isn't going very well. “I mean, seriously. Tell him the truth,” she continues, “None of this is your fault. He's not going to blame you for it. Plus, if he finds out that you were bullshitting him later, he'll be seriously mad. Then, he MIGHT blame you.”

You turn, looking behind you and seeing nothing. Looking back, you see the familiar girl lounging in the seat opposite you. “What's with this advice all of a sudden?” you ask, frowning at her, “I mean, I don't know if I should trust you on this.”

“Wow, rude. You're really hurting my feelings here – and, by default, your own feelings. I guess you're used to that, huh?” Claire points out, giving you a wink, “Hey, look, I'm just telling you what you already know. If I'm giving you shitty advice, that's because you want to ruin this for yourself. So basically, don't blame ME for any of this.”

“Yeah, thanks,” you mutter, “You're really saving the day here.”

What a mess...

>She's right. You need to tell Vic everything
>You could just play dumb. You don't need to tell Vic anything
>You could tell him... (Write in)
>Other
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>>4032599
>She's right. You need to tell Vic everything
Let's try to soften the blow as much as possible. Not that this fucking thing can be softened a lot...
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>>4032599
>She's right. You need to tell Vic everything

This is going to be brutal, but it must be done.
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>>4032599
>She's right. You need to tell Vic everything
Should we consider returning home, Humanity clearly isn't worth saving.

Do we still have our knife on us? we may want get Johanna as far away as we can.
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>>4032599
>You could just play dumb. You don't need to tell Vic anything
How the fuck do you tell something like this?
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>>4032622
Bergmann's insanity and methods don't negate all of humanity. That's incredibly fickle of you.
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>>4032646
She hasn't acted alone in this, A very large number of people (all of the scientists and senior staff in both the UN and NERV) have assisted, and covered for her in this, all simply because they decided to go for the expedient route, there would be no reason for them not to be able to take their time once Lilith enters stasis, to find another option.
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>>4032658
The point I'm trying to make is that we just had a moment where we showed our resolve to Adam with Claudia that we are worth something and won't stop fighting. Immediately pulling a 180 on that because Bergmann and NERV acted like the shitheads we know them to be is pretty awful.
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“Shit,” you mutter, “You're right. I mean, I'm right. I need to tell him. Oh god, how the hell am I going to tell him?”

“It's a tricky one,” Claire agrees, nodding soberly, “I suggest not fucking it up.”

“Oh great, when have I EVER-” you groan, biting back the rest of that sentence as Fletcher emerges from the helicopter's cockpit. He gives you a strange look but doesn't say anything as he passes you by. Claire is there one moment, and gone the next. Fumbling with the safety harness, you hop to your feet and hurry after Fletcher. “Hey, uh, chief. I need some advice,” you tell him, “How should I-”

“Just give him the facts, don't drag the conversation out any longer than it needs to be, and stay calm,” Fletcher interrupts, “He might get upset, so you need to keep your cool. Oh, and don't run away. Do NOT run away in the middle of a difficult conversation.”

Suitable chastised, you accept the advice with a nod.

-

The door closes slowly behind you, the locks grating together with a harsh groan. Vic jolts up, woken by the sudden noise, and rubs his eyes. Looking at you, his expression slowly darkens. It feels like you've fucked the conversation up already, and you haven't even said a word yet. Bracing yourself for the worst, you sit down beside him on the bed. “So. I managed to speak with Bergmann. I managed to... get some answers,” you begin, “And... Vic. I want you to listen carefully.”

He stares. His eyes, pleading you not to say anything more.

“It's Nate. She's gone. Bergmann's experiment was...” pausing, hesitating, you can hear your voice beginning to waver. Taking a breath to steady your nerves, you continue. “She needed Nate to make a weapon capable of destroying Lilith. It worked, but Nate is... gone.”

“Gone,” Vic repeats, in the dull voice of the uncomprehending.

“It was painless. It would have been like... going to sleep. She didn't suffer,” you continue, blindly hoping that you're right, “Vic, she always wanted to make a difference. To do her part for mankind – to keep YOU safe. I know this isn't what she was thinking of, I know this isn't going to make things any easier for you, but... but... Vic, please, just say something!”

“I don't know what to say,” he rasps, slowly shaking his head, “What do you WANT me to say?”

This isn't going how you expected it might go, even in your bleakest predictions. “Vic,” you murmur, “There was nothing we could have done, we-”

“Nothing we...” Vic repeats, his eyes widening, “We never should have come here, that's what! We never should have left home. I wish we'd never heard of NERV!”

“No!” you yelp as he leaps to his feet. You reach out, but he bats your hand away.

“Don't!” he snarls, “I've lost everything because of you people, and I... I...”

Unable to finish that sentence, Vic turns and flees from the room. The door slams behind him, leaving you alone in the new silence.

[1/?]
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>>4032734
I wonder if we are still playing both parts during Claire conversations or we are just having a one sided conversation from the perspective of others.
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>>4032708
Something needs to change and it isn't if we just hand them the win, they can't keep getting away with this, all of the pilots that have died So far, were killed in experiments, not on duty. If we don't do anything now the next time something of this magnitude pops up whomever has to deal with it is going to have to deal with the same problems.

>>4032744
I think it shifts depending on if we're currently being observed by others or not, or if Claire interacts with others.

He didn't even let us finish, and sees us as part of the problem.
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>>4032734

“Okay, my bad,” Claire admits, “I wasn't expecting him to kick off like that. I mean, c'mon, when has Vic EVER kicked off? He's like-”

“Claire,” you interrupt, “Shut up. Just... shut up.”

No answer, of course. Slumping back against the bed, you stare up at the bland ceiling and think back over everything you said. Maybe it wasn't perfect, but you didn't think it was THAT bad. Were you trying to make light of it too much, or did you go too fast? Should you have stopped and let him ask questions, or would that have just made things worse? Maybe a comforting lie would have been better after all, but in the long term-

A knock at the door causes you to leap to your feet. Lunging for it, you yank the metal door open and find yourself looking at... Claudia. Not exactly who you had been expecting. “I'm coming in,” the heiress begins, brushing past you and limping inside.

“Hold on!” you yelp, “Shouldn't you start with “Can I come in?” or-”

“Oh, forget that,” she snaps, sitting heavily down on the bed and stretching out her bad leg, “You look like crap, and I heard shouting. What's wrong?”

“The shouting, right,” you mutter, “I don't know, I think... I think I'm kinda single again. I don't even know how it happened. I tried telling him about Nate, and I guess I fucked it up. Somehow.” Sighing, you sit down beside Claudia and bury your head in your hands. You're just waiting for the shitty insult or the sneering comment, but nothing comes. “Maybe he was right,” you continue, “They would have been better off if they never came here.”

With a sigh of her own, Claudia pats you on the arm. “Have you considered the fact that he might have thrown a tantrum no matter what you said?” she suggests, “Now, I'll admit that I don't know the exact situation, but I know it's nothing good. Bad news has a way of upsetting people, no matter how it's delivered. Just give him some time.”

“Time?” you repeat, “No way, you don't... there isn't enough time in the world to fix this!”

Tutting softly to herself, Claudia puts her arm around your shoulder and pulls you close. “Well, then I suppose you might as well give up,” she muses, “Just give up and let him run off with someone else. You know, I've seen the way he looks at Hester. I might put in a good word, see if they-”

Abruptly, you shove her away and give her a disgusted look. “Claudia, you...” you begin, “You're a real bitch, you know that?”

“I try,” she replies sweetly, “Now what are you sitting around here for? Go, GO!”

You go.

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>>4032882

Metal clanks underfoot as you run up on deck, following some unspoken instinct. Cold wind and light rain slap you in the face as you emerge, and you have to hastily wipe your eyes clear. There by the railings, oblivious to the foul weather, you spot Vic gazing out at the sea. Hurrying across, you hear yourself call his name. He turns, your eyes meet, and you freeze. For a moment, the only sound is that of the wind.

Vic turns back towards Adam's grave, squaring his shoulders and leaning on the railings. Forcing yourself to move, you creep closer and stand beside him. For a long while, neither of you says a word. You just stand side by side, looking out at the bleak sight. Cold wind continues to blow, cutting through your thin shirt. No jacket, of course. No time for that. Shivering, trying to force the discomfort out of your thoughts, you wait for Vic to speak. If he doesn't say something soon, you're going to have to try something. Given your past record, that could be a disaster.

“She's gone then?” Vic asks quietly, his voice barely audible above the wind, “Really gone?”

Numbly, you nod. There's nothing else to say, nothing you haven't said already.

“At least it's...” he pauses, swallowing heavily, “It's closure.”

Silence.

“I don't know how I'm supposed to feel,” Vic admits suddenly, his voice strained and raw, “I feel... hollow. Like I've lost a piece of myself. I keep waiting for something else, something more, but it just won't come. Was it like this for you? With... with Claire?”

“I'm still trying to figure that one out,” you confess, “I'm not really... over her. Maybe I'll never be over her.”

“Oh,” he mumbles, straightening up and forcing himself to look you in the eye. Your heart quickens as you wait for him to speak, dreading what he might be about to say. “Holly. I'm sorry for running out like that,” he continues, “And... I'm sorry for saying those horrible things to you. I'm not good at these things, and I just... I needed to get out. To get AWAY. I don't even know what I was trying to get away from.”

“I...” you try to force a smile, “When you gotta go, you gotta go, right?”

Somehow, Vic manages to laugh. “That's... right,” he agrees, “But that doesn't change the fact that I said some terrible things to you. You're not to blame for any of this, but I took this out on you. I'll understand if you don't want us to... if you can't forgive me.”

A soft gasp escapes your lips as he says this. As you fumble for a response, you see a flash of pink in the background. Watching you from the distant railings, Claire gestures for you to say something, anything.

So you say...

>...(Write in)
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>>4032892
>...(Write in)
Kiss him, words are hard.
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>>4032892
"There's nothing to forgive. Anyone would be upset after hearing something like that. Come here."

>Hug
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>>4032900
>>4032892

A kiss is worth a thousand words.
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>>4032900
Kissing is more romantic. Nothing about the current situation is romantic. Try embracing. Better for mourning.
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>>4032908
A distraction is a distraction Anon, we can use the time it buys us to come up with something.

I sort of feel like we should go into more detail about the engine out come of the experiment, and that we're not going to use it, since there should be a line in the sand somewhere, and all this stops us from doing is killing Lilith, we can still use the control rod to put her into stasis.
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>>4032914
>Distraction
>Buying time

You don't have an emotional bone in your body do you?
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>>4032927
Not if i don't need one.

Holly is out of her depth, and doesn't always make the right choices.
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>>4032900
>>4032905
>>4032908
NOOOOOO HOLLY IS FOR GIRL KISSING ONLY

>>4032892
"I say terrible things to people all the time to feel better. Its nice to get it as bad as I give for once.
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>>4032892
I forgive you Vic. I’d have handled it much worse. Still tempted to go back there to beat the shit out of Bergman but at this point sick fuck would probably get off on it. So quick to sacrifice the innocent and embrace pain for a shot of power. I don’t understand her.
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>>4032892
>...(Write in)
"Nothing can be further from the truth Vic. I'm with you."

Ironically Holly has loads of practice screaming and running out of the room when there is upsetting news so she has some perspective here.

>>4032882
Claudia over here making her way to the 2nd Best Girl slot over the course of this trip.
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>>4032892
Supporting this one: >>4032947
NOT supporting these ones: >>4032905 >>4032900
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>>4032892
Hug him tight
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>>4032947
What does your current ranking look like?
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>>4032947
Claudia and Kaori are tied imo. Juliet takes second/third.

Nate/Coraline/Karina are all trapped below >9000 in doomed/tragic character hell

And then 5 layers below them is Hester, Coraline and Karinas handler.
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>>4032965
The second coraline was supposed to be Claire
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>>4032965
There's something hilarious and incredibly fitting about you forgetting Yulia. Stuck in irrelevancy hell.
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>>4032972
Yulia has never, and will never matter.
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>>4032964
Karina (I'm a big softy, shut up)
Claudia
Kaori
Juliet
Dakota
Monroe
The rest
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>>4032980
I can respect that list. If I wasn't so afraid of caring about someone we cant save, that might be my list.
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“There's nothing to forgive,” you tell him, “Anyone would be upset, hearing... something like that. You don't have anything to apologise for.”

Vic is silent as he considers your words, struggling to find some reply. This time, he's the one left unsure of what's happening. Was he expecting you to curse him out, to fling his apology back in his face? It's a grim thought, and you feel your heart sink a little. Reaching over and taking his hand in yours, you feel the coldness of his skin. He flinches a little at your touch, as if expecting you to strike him.

“I don't...” he begins, immediately lapsing back into silence. Even with his hand in yours, the distance between you seems incredible. It's like you're standing either side of some vast chasm, and no matter how loudly you shout your words just can't reach him. Even his hand feels numb, like you're clinging to some wax model instead. There's nothing you can do, except for-

With a sudden forwards lunge, you throw your arms around him. His eyes widen in shock, before closing as he eases into the embrace and puts his arms around you. The silence returns as you hold each other, but it's a different kind of silence – a comforting thing, the sort of silence that blocks out the rest of the world. You can feel Vic's heartbeat, and you're sure that he can feel yours. He reaches up and touches your hair, stroking it with a delicate touch, and you feel a guilty thrill run through your body.

“Oh,” he murmurs, a note of realisation in his voice, “You're shivering!”

“Because it's cold out here!” you protest, your voice muffled by his body, “I mean, isn't that obvious?”

“Oh, right,” Vic replies, looking up at the sky for what seems like the first time, “Maybe we should finish this inside...”

That's the best idea you've heard in a long time.

>Ego increased by 5
>Current Ego: 60/70

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Later.

“I want to get out of here,” Vic murmurs, staring listlessly up at the ceiling, “We don't belong in a place like this. People, I mean. You feel it too, don't you? Even up here, this place feels like another planet.” He lapses back into silence as he thinks, sheets rustling softly as he shifts his weight on the bed slightly. You hold your tongue, waiting for him to continue. Here, together in this small room, you can almost hear the words before he says them aloud. “If they win, the whole planet will be like this,” he muses, “Won't it?”

“Something like it,” you agree, nodding slowly, “It won't be our planet, that's for sure.”

“Well,” Vic pauses, “I suppose it won't matter very much at that point, will it?”

“Oh,” you reply, realisation sinking in, “Good point.”

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>>4032974
She had this one neat character trait about cutting out the chaff, having a well oiled machine, keeping things tight and orderly. Real SEELE Control hours you know? But nothing ever came of that. No ideals were challenged. She just kinda sat there only really perking up when it was about Fletcher or her scientist subplot that for her sake we couldn't really interfere with much.

I guess that's my one major gripe about this quest. The other pilots outside a few moments didn't really do much when it came to the overarching SEELE/NERV plots. You have Holly running all over the place uncovering secrets and displaying this big division of ideals that's taken root in the top brass on the future of the world. But once they also see those uncovered secrets they all kinda reacted like a dead fish before going back to watch TV. Didn't really do anything with the information given. Just let Holly have all the agency regarding that. Except Claudia. That was a good moment when we clashed. Anyways rant over, it's all in the past anyhow.
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>>4032989
This "-" really intrigues me.
Because I get what it can imply, but I just can't see that happening in this particular situation.
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>>4033002
Compartmentalization is a thing, someone has to be paying attention and making sure that if a Lilium shows up while Holly is off castigating people over their inaction it gets dealt with..
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>>4033017
Except that with 2 exceptions Holly also does the heavy lifting in the fights
>>4033002
Very apt. Characters in this quest really like throwing around the same language associated with Rei with juliet "Oh you dont matter you are just a doll" but Juliet and Claudia were arguably the two characters with the most going on and Yulia was content to play her bit part unquestioningly. For gods sake, Claudia basically ate what should have been Yulias plotline in supporting SEELE supremacy when she was getting mind tampered by Matheson.
Yulia is probably worst girl. Even Dakota, who has had the least time to shine in the sun actually faught back valiantly against Matheson, was willing to question and fight SEELE and their bullshit, at least until we forgot about her and she got the mobu treatment.
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>>4033032
Yulia trusted the UN implicitly because of her time in the refugee camp, though Matheson wouldn't need to invest any time in her to get her on side.

You need to remember that Dakota is the youngest of the pilots ignoring the clones since they get Memories during their awakening process, witch is basically Cheating by a couple of years and hasn't had the time to develop that the others have
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>>4033038
Ironically in spite of that, Kaori was more of the 'UN rep' pilot due to her upbringing and father's position.
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>>4033039
Not after Berith / Berlin happened, also she mentions that she did hear some things because they treated her like she wasn't in the room sometimes.
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>>4033039
>>4033041
>>4033038
Honestly I imagine all the characters in a cafeteria getting handed out plotlines, and everyone just takes from Yulias plate one at a time.

At the end all she has is "Im sad about not being useful" which she had to split with Nate anyway and "Im horny for Fletcher"

Absolutely bottom tier.
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>>4033048
She's still better off than Reed though.
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>>4033050
Who?
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>>4033052
Exactly.
Coraline's partner.
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>>4033048
Show's not over yet. Under the guise of a pushover could be hiding a ruthless practical person who would tell you to abandon these really unnecessary doubts about using the results brought by sacrifice. So far Holly's been trying to believe that 'survive at all costs' mentality is ugly and bad and immoral. Turns out that you don't get to survive otherwise and Yulia probably has more than enough relevant experience to back that position up.
It's not like there's much choice in regards to choosing a solution to Holly's cognitive dissonance. Either she runs away and stops fighting altogether or she keeps trying to do her best knowing full well she's not any better than Bergmann.
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>>4032989

Later. Again.

Sitting in the guts of the Colossus, you glance across at the clock. Monroe is running late – dimly, you wonder if you should get up and look for her, but that seems like far too much effort. Besides, the rain is starting to lash down again and fuck that noise. So you just sit and wait, idly wondering about the reasons behind the delay. Maybe she saw a cute soldier and stopped for some futile flirting, but-

“Your button,” Claudia whispers, leaning over from the seat opposite yours. You glance down, looking at your shirt. One of the buttons has been pushed through the wrong hole. Flapping a hand at Claudia, you hastily fix it.

“I got wet in the rain,” you tell her, “Had to change into dry clothes.”

“Of course,” she agrees, giving you a sweet smile, “I understand completely. ”

“Hey-” you protest, only to fall silent as Monroe hurries aboard with a clatter of boots and a volley of hasty apologies. “Hey chief!” you call out, grateful for the distraction, “What's with the delay? We were going to leave without you!”

“Sorry, sorry, I had to take a call from home,” Monroe explains quickly, collapsing into the closest seat and buckling herself in. “Good news though. At least, I hope it's good news,” she continues, “We've got a visual from Dirac. Visual confirmation of the BLUE EYE units, all five of them. Impossible to tell too much from the pictures, but apparently they all look, um, intact. Should have more information by the time we reach Avalon.” Pausing, Monroe looks you up and down. “Wait a minute,” she remarks, “Were you wearing that shirt-”

“She got wet in the rain,” Claudia calls out, her voice singsong, “Had to change into dry clothes.”

“Right,” you mumble, feeling your cheeks heat up, “What she said.”

-

A restless excitement stirs in the pit of your stomach as you listen to the Colossus drone its way to Avalon. Distraction comes when Fletcher sits down beside you, giving you a very serious look. “Vic,” he begins, the single word falling from his tongue like a boulder.

“What?” you yelp, casting a guilty look to where Vic naps a few seats away, “What about him?”

“How is he holding up?” Fletcher asks, “This is going to be a challenging time for him, and for all of us. I need to make sure that he's not going to do anything rash.”

“Rash,” you repeat, frowning at this, “What exactly do you mean?”

“Talking to people he shouldn't. I shouldn't need to remind you that everything we do here is highly classified,” the mercenary explains, “Even family are off-limits. If he's going to call them, he needs to discuss it with us first. Is that understood?”

>I understand. I'll make sure he knows
>You're a real bastard, you know that?
>They deserve to know what happened to their daughter
>I think... (Write in)
>Other
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>>4033074
>They deserve to know what happened to their daughter.
Bergmann made her bed, and your lot decided to look the other way.
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>>4033074
>They deserve to know what happened to their daughter

this is officially too classified
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>>4033074
>>They deserve to know what happened to their daughter
"Fletcher what the fuck is "Classified" anymore? For how much shit I've had to do to dig out SEELE's secrets what does that even mean? This isn't the same organization we started at."
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>>4033074
>>They deserve to know what happened to their daughter
>given we all jmped to sacrificing a child to give us good fortune like a greek period piece, rash isn't a word anyone with a hand in that decision can bandy about anymore fletcher. You included.
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>>4033074
>>Other
Go fuck yourself. Im done doing your job for you. You had a part in this, you said as much. Now swallow your own just deserts.
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“No Fletcher, that is NOT understood,” you reply, being careful to keep your voice low, “They deserve to know what happened to their daughter, especially since... since WE did it.” Taking a deep breath, you look back around you. No eavesdroppers, fortunately. “I mean, “classified”? What does that even mean? All that shit we've been digging out of the UN archives, that was “classified” too. Things have changed,” you continue, “You don't get to decide what's secret or not, just because you're worried about looking bad. I'm done with all that, and I'm done with-”

“Holly,” he interrupts. Usually, that's enough to silence you. Usually.

“No, fuck you!” you hiss, jabbing your finger into his chest, “They lost their daughter because of you people, because you wanted to offer her up like this was Greek fucking tragedy! You do NOT want to push me on this, you hear?”

“I hear you. Loud and clear,” Fletcher agrees, giving you an amiable nod, “And yes, I do think that they deserve to know what happened to their daughter. I just don't think it's wise to tell them. If it became wider knowledge, there could be an outcry. Public opinion could turn against us, and our position could become untenable even with Elrow pulling strings for us. Mass outrage could achieve what Leighton and the UN failed to do. So be very careful about what you say. That goes double for Victor.”

“Yeah, well, it's his choice,” you spit, “So quit bothering ME about it.”

Accepting this with a nod, Fletcher rises from his seat. You watch him leave with a scowl. All that talk about public outrage has left a bad taste in your mouth, but the idea of secrecy is just as bad. What exactly is Vic supposed to do, keep writing letters home telling his folks that everything is A-okay? It seems like there are new lies wherever you turn, stacking higher and higher until-

Your phone buzzes, vibrating in your pocket and nearly scaring you out of your skin. Fumbling it out, you take the call. “Holly?” Yulia begins, “Hello, are you there?”

“Physically, yes. Mentally, not so much,” you answer, only to be greeted by a long silence. Sighing inwardly, you continue. “Sorry. Stupid joke. I'm here, go ahead,” you tell her, “We're on our way back to Avalon now. Got something you wanted to talk about?”

“Dakota. She spoke to me today. I was sitting with her in the infirmary, and she asked for water. I thought perhaps I was imagining it, but then she swore at me and asked again. So I got her some water,” Yulia continues, “She is asleep now, but I think perhaps she will be awake when you return. This is good news, yes? Ah, but it will be strange for me. I have gotten used to the infirmary. I think I spend more time here than in my workshop!”

“That's okay,” you reply with a weary smile, “I spend way too much time in the infirmary too.”

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>>4033161

The Colossus powers through the sky, eating up miles and timezones with a steady, determined pace. You doze through some of it, and wait impatiently through the rest. When you sleep, it's never for very long – there's always some crazy fragment of a dream that wakes you up in a hurry. Time and time again, your dreams return to the BLUE EYE team. You always imagine them as some deep sea relic, crusted over with ancient barnacles and... whatever else they have at the bottom of the ocean. Coral and shit.

Either way, it's never a pretty sight.

Eventually, your restlessness drives you to cross the length of the plane and sit down next to Monroe. She looks up from the paperback novel she was reading and raises a questioning eyebrow. “That call you got from Avalon,” you whisper, “Was there anything else? Anything you didn't tell me?”

“A few boring admin details – confirming our flight pattern, security arrangements, nothing you needed to know about,” Monroe answers, “Why do you ask?”

“I don't know. Just looking for conversation, I guess. I'm feeling kinda restless,” you admit, “Still, seemed like an awfully long delay for a phone call. Was there anything else?”

“Ah. Well. I did run into a rather dashing soldier in the corridor,” Monroe concedes, offering you a sheepish smile, “I suppose I was feeling lucky, so I sparked up a little bit of a conversation and, well...”

Of course.

“Oh yeah?” you ask, “How did that work out for you?”

The smile fades from Monroe's face, and she heaves a heavy sigh. That's all she needs to say, really. You can guess the rest.

>So I think I'm going to pause this here for today. Current plan is to continue this tomorrow
>Thank you for your patience today!
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>>4033202
Thanks for the run.

Did the Lilium in Nevada, that Claudia killed ever get a designation?
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>>4033202
Thanks for running!
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>>4033205
You know, I don't think I ever gave it a full designation. It never really got far enough along for that. For official purposes, though, it would have been given the designation "Crocell"
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>>4033202
Thanks for running!

Yay Dakota woke up. Did she have wolf dreams?
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>>4033202
Thanks for the run
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>>4015604
>>4015631
Remember how BLUE EYE had a problem where their pilots would fail when pushed to the limit, whereas a real pilot wouldn't? The explanation was that real people actually have something to hold on to, whereas BLUE EYE's pasts are lies. They normally aren't really real people.

Remember also what we said to Ava last time we saw her:
>“In here, there might be a time when someone tells you... that you're not real, that you don't count. I'm telling you, here and now, that's bullshit. You're as real as I am, and you proved that to me today. Remember that, will you? I'm ordering you to remember that.”

I think we had a lot to do with her being able to hold on against the initial ego collapse trigger that all the other pilots had to deal with. Even with the bulk of her past being fake, she definitely had her determination and her relationships with the other pilots to keep her whole.
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>>4034509
Something else to consider is that that she might also be compatible with Unit 02, since she is also in part based of Holly, so we might be able to send her in, in our place with whomever else ends up going in, sending in both Juliet and Julia would probably be the best pair just in case it turns into a trap
Because why not just dunk on them with a DC bonus of 10+ per opponent.
we may want to tell Ava the truth about Blue Eye, and what happened form our perspective before she goes in though.
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“You know what I like?” Dakota asks, “I mean, what I really like?”

“I don't, but I'm sure you're about to tell me,” you reply, “Go on then, don't leave me in suspense. What do you really like?”

“Not being in a fucking coma,” the young girl quips, tearing off another mouthful of her burger and almost choking on her own laughter. She's in pretty good spirits for someone who was unconsciously only yesterday, but maybe that's because you stopped for burgers on the way back to HQ. You were a little surprised to see her waiting for you at the airstrip, considering how recently she woke up. Then again, if you spent that long in bed you'd want to get up and about too.

“I suppose that makes sense,” you sigh, glancing out the window at a queue of stalled traffic, “For a moment, I thought you were talking about that burger of yours.”

Dakota looks down at her meal. “Oh, this is pretty good too. It's got bacon and shit,” she pauses, “Not actual shit, I mean, although I took a quick peak through back and that kitchen didn't look so clean. Wait, crap, now I've lost my appetite.”

As if making a lie of her own words, Dakota quickly wolfs down the last of her burger. You watch her eat with a curious look, a raise brow and a smile.

“What?” she grunts, noticing your expression, “I don't like to waste food!”

-

“So I gotta ask,” you begin, finally allowing your curiosity to run loose as you're getting unpacked, “What was it like, being under like that? Did you have any weird dreams?”

“Yeah, I had some weird dreams. I dreamed that I was a wolf, and there was a bunch of other wolves there. We were all howling at the moon and-” Dakota pauses, frowning, “Wait, that wasn't a dream. That was just a shirt I saw once. It was pretty cool, I kinda wanted to buy it but it was like XXL. I could have worn that shit like a dress or something, I dunno. What were we talking about again?”

If you didn't know any better, you'd guess that she was trying to avoid the subject. “I'll tell you what,” you continue, indulging the young girl, “If I ever see an extra extra SMALL size, I'll buy it for you, okay?”

“Great!” Dakota chirps, “Wait, who are you calling extra extra small?”

You would have thought that was obvious, but apparently not. Just as you're unloading the last of your things, there is a knock at the door. You call out a greeting, and Kaori peers in. “Holly. Glad to see you arrived back okay,” she begins, her voice crisp and businesslike, “I wish we had time to catch up, but Commander Monroe wants to see you. She said it was pretty urgent, and that you'd understand what it was about. I assume it's about the BLUE EYE team. We've been pretty busy here and... but I'll let the commander explain the situation.”

“Got it,” you reply, suppressing a sigh as you glance aside to Dakota, “No rest for the wicked, right?”

“Funny,” Dakota quips, “I've done nothing BUT rest.”

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>>4034627

It's like seeing a scene from your dreams, plucked from your mind and put onto paper. Despite the poor quality, you can definitely see the shape of a Nephilim Unit in the grainy photograph that Monroe hands you. It looks to be half buried in a thick sludge, crusted over with more of the tarry stuff. In the distance, you see what might be a second Nephilim Unit but this one is less clear. Between the four photographs that Monroe shows you, it seems like all five of the BLUE EYE units are there.

“Okay,” you say, speaking up just for the sake of saying something, “What's the next step?”

“Further investigation is required. For that, we'll need to send in a team,” Monroe explains, “Juliet has already volunteered, and she asked if you could lead the operation.”

Juliet nods, her eyes flicking briefly across to Ava. The sole remaining member of the BLUE EYE team sits in the corner and glares darkly, her eyes rimmed with deep pits of shadow. She looks rough, but no worse than you'd expect given the circumstances. “I should be the one to go,” she mutters, “But I can't.”

“We don't have a suitable ADM Unit for her,” Bergmann explains, speaking as if Ava wasn't sitting right next to her, “And we need her here, to aid with the navigation. She'll be the one guiding you down to the mission site.”

“We don't know what might be down there. Even with the probe running at full efficiency, we're having trouble getting consistent readings from that depth,” Monroe continues, “There are signs of Lilim activity, but that's normal for this region. Kind of like background noise. So, we can't determine anything specific. I'd suggest a balanced loadout for this operation, but I'll let you make the final call. Choose the equipment you're comfortable with.”

“We'll need some time to get everything prepared,” Bergmann adds, rising to her feet and preparing to leave, “Stop by my lab-”

“THE lab,” Monroe interrupts, “You're sharing with Doctor Brahms now, remember?”

Although she wears a terrible scowl on her face, Bergmann concedes the point with a nod. “Stop by THE lab when you're done here,” she states, “We have the means of completing another research project. Should be enough time to make the arrangements before your operation begins.”

“So,” Monroe concludes, taking out her notepad, “Speaking of arrangements...”

>Current partner: Juliet Moore
>Current equipment: Standard issue gear

>Accept this loadout
>You'll need different equipment
>You've got questions first... (Write in)
>Other
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>>4034630
>Accept this loadout
Versatile Equipment for a versatile co pilot.
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>>4034630
>You'll need different equipment.
>Take Close Assault Gear
We need the extra damage.
>You've got questions first... (Write in)
Explain what happened with Coraline, and that they were there for that, what should we do if they aren't going to come quietly.
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>>4034636
>>4034630
I'll change to Close Assault to move things along. I'm just worried about getting tar pitted based on the area's description.
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“Listen, commander, I need to ask you something,” you begin, the unwelcome subject hanging on the tip of your tongue. You hesitate, and Bergmann seems to realise what you're about to ask. Taking Ava by the hand, she pulls the traumatised pilot to her feet and leads her out. Ava doesn't argue, simply accepting the rough treatment and allowing herself to be guided out. As much as you hate to admit it, you're glad that she won't have to overhear this. “The BLUE EYE team got pulled into that mire. They've been down there ever since,” you continue, giving Monroe a serious look, “What I'm asking is, what should we do if they won't come quietly?”

Closing her eyes, Monroe lets out a soft sigh. “If the BLUE EYE team have become compromised, you have permission to engage them as hostile targets. I hope to God that it doesn't come to this, but we may need to consider them our enemies,” she murmurs, “As you said, they've been down there a long time and recovery may not be an option. Juliet. Are you prepared for this?”

“I... think so,” Juliet replies, her voice uncertain, “I've been preparing for the worst. That's why I want to do this – I should be the one to take care of this. We're family, after all.”

“I understand,” Monroe breathes, glancing aside to you, “Holly?”

“I'll need close assault gear,” you tell her, “If things do go south, I'll need to finish it quickly. I don't want to drag things out.”

With a sombre nod, Monroe scratches down a note.

-

With the meeting out of the way, you walk to the elevators with Juliet. She's quiet, her expression thoughtful. Solemn, but not without resolve. “There's something I want to tell you,” she begins, reaching across to push the elevator's call button, “But I don't know how to say it. There are no words for what I need to say. If there are, I've never learned them. So, it's a difficult position to be in.”

“I know how it is,” you reply. You know better than most, in fact. The elevator arrives with a soft chime, and you enter. The doors slide shut behind you, and Juliet grabs your hands. Your eyes widen with surprise as she pulls herself close, but it's not what you're expecting. With a gentle motion, she leans forwards until her forehead brushes against yours. The protest dies on your lips as something stirs within you. A sense of... peace, of belonging. A sense that this is what you've been looking for all along, although you never really realised it. Juliet pulls away, and you feel your eyes prickle with tears.

“That...” she whispers, stepping back as the elevator glides to a halt, “That's what I wanted to say.”

>Juliet has learned the ability: Collective Ego
>Collective Ego: Increases maximum Ego by 20

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>>4034662
It just means that we need to dictate our ranges properly and establish contact with the units as best we can before things kick off, and be ready to fall back or call for reinforcements if we need to.

Also if we can pre-plan our engagement strategies for each unit, based of Ava's knowledge of them it should help limit their numerical superiority.
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>>4034676
I'm more worried about the Lilim that's going to show up.
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>>4034711
if It does, it would probably be a good idea to call for backup, regardless of anything else that is going on.
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>>4034674

Like you're stumbling through some distant, but not unpleasant, dream, you reach Bergmann's lab and Juliet says her farewells, flitting away to visit Karina before the mission. Once her back is turned you reach up to feel your forehead, an electric tingle running through your skin as your fingertips brush against where you made contact. Shivering slightly, you pull your hand away and step into the lab. Immediately, you feel your blissful haze bleed away. Over by one side of the room – Bergmann's territory, you assume – you see numerous photographs of her Saturnalia Engine pasted over the wall.

Talk about killing the mood.

“Miss Reynolds. Hello,” Brahms begins, glancing over from his corner of the room, “Unfortunately, we'll need to skip past the pleasantries. I assume you've been briefed on the new mission? Ava will be providing navigation from here – she'll be connected up via a test plug, so she'll be able to see what you see and provide real time updates. However, there is a chance that the connection could put too much strain on her system. She isn't as... healthy... as she used to be. If that happens, we may need to sever the link. Be advised.”

“You worry too much,” Bergmann counters, “Holly has plenty of experience in Dirac. She'll be able to handle anything that comes her way. We just need to provide her with the appropriate support. Come over here, take a look at this.”

Grimacing, you approach and look down at Bergmann's computer. All the while, you try not to look at the assembled photographs. God, you can't even LOOK at that thing without feeling your skin crawl...

“I know, I know,” she sighs, “Just focus on the mission. Let me worry about everything else. So, these are the research projects we're currently working on...”

>AT Bunker: Reduce Integrity damage by 50%. Cost: Ego equal to damage reduced
>AT Revive: Ignore the effects of Integrity damage penalties. Cost: 5 Ego per attack
>Ranged Combat Training 2: Increase ranged attack bonus to +20
>Close Combat Damage 2: Increase close damage bonus to +4
>Ranged Combat Damage 2: Increase ranged damage bonus to +4

“Progress with some of our research has been slower than I would have liked,” Brahms adds, looking over from his desk, “I'm sure you have your own way of doing things here, but I must say-”

“Holly. Please pick a research project,” Bergmann pleads, “Before our good friend Quentin starts on his “efficiency” speech again.”

Well, in that case...

>AT Bunker
>AT Revive
>Ranged Combat Training 2
>Close Combat Damage 2
>Ranged Combat Damage 2
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>>4034719
>>Close Combat Damage 2
We are nearing the end I think. Let's get the last one unlocked for next time.
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>>4034719
>Close Combat Damage 2
The only other one on that list that could be useful would be revive, and only for last ditch attack.
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>>4034719
>Close Combat Damage 2
All the closer to Malkuth
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>>4034729
I wonder if it would be the installation of the Engine, though, if that is the case we may want to not do it.
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>Okay, closing this vote here for Close Combat Damage 2. Writing up now!
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“This,” you tell her, tapping the screen, “I'm going to need to finish this fight quickly, and that means hitting hard.” Pausing for a moment, you look down at the very end of Bergmann's research chart. One final box blurred out. “What happens here?” you ask quietly, pointing to the final layer before glancing up at the photographs, “Is that...”

Bergmann tilts her head, perhaps wondering whether to dodge the question or not. Then, making up her mind, she nods once. “That's right,” she replies, “The Saturnalia Engine itself is ready, but we'll need to make some final calibrations in order to connect it up to Unit 02. In this case, it definitely IS an exact science. I'm not prepared to make any mistakes here, and-”

“I told you before,” you interrupt, “I don't want it. I do. Not. Want. It.”

“I'm sure you don't,” Bergmann remarks, “For once, don't blame me. I'm just following my orders.”

“For the first time in your life,” Brahms mutters, quite deliberately loud enough for you both to overhear. Bergmann scowls hard, her face twisting up with anger, and you beat a hasty retreat before the shouting can start.

>Close Combat Damage 2 obtained

-

On your way out of the lab, you stop by the testing chamber. Ava is sitting beside what you assume to be her test plug, trailing her fingers through the LCL pool. Her gaze is distant, fixed on something only she can see. Crossing over to join her, you sit down and give her a careful nod of greeting. She replies with a nod of her own, but only after a long pause. “This is a strange place,” she begins, “It's nothing like Academy. There's a warmth here. Before, I thought it would have made you weak, soft. Now, I'm not so certain.”

“It's pretty casual here,” you agree, “Soft beds too. Have you been, um, enjoying it here?”

What a stupid thing to say. As if she could enjoy anything under these circumstances.

“I'm making people uneasy,” Ava remarks eventually, “They don't know what to say around me. I enter a room, and everyone falls silent. It's like they're all afraid of offending me. I don't care what they say. It doesn't matter to me.”

“Oh,” you murmur. Well, at least she didn't take offence from your careless comment. Silver linings and all that.

“I'm going to be navigating for you, apparently. I was told that it's like providing a tether to lead you back to the real world. It's an important job... apparently,” she continues, “But I should be down there, doing some real work. My team are down there, but I'm just sitting here. Doing nothing. I feel like I'm abandoning them.”

“You're not. We're a team here, and we all do our part,” you assure her, “We'll be relying on you to lead us back home. You'll be playing a vital role here.”

Ava glances around, giving you a weary and almost contemptuous look.

>Fine. I guess you don't want to talk
>Listen... (Write in)
>Other
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>>4034794
>Listen... (Write in)
They will be coming home, whether they want it or not, I haven't given up on anyone yet, and I don't intend to start now.
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>>4034794
>"Listen, if you don't tether me I'll be stuck there with your whole team and none of us will get back. So it is essential, and if you slack I will go Coraline on you I swear to Adam."
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>>4034794
>Listen... (Write in)
"I get it. Like I said before I would be raising hell trying to get my team back and doing nothing feels fucking awful. I know it feels that way if you aren't kicking down the door yourself, but you're the only one that can make saving them work. We'll get them back Ava. Then I'm going to take you all to the greasiest burger joint we have in the city."

>>4034806
What does that even mean? Also mentioning Coraline is a bad idea considering she caused this.
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>>4034794
>Listen... (Write in)
"What do you want more? For them to be safe or for you to be a hero?"
Probably going to be late, fug it.
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“Listen, I get it. I get that you want to be the one who kicks the door in and plays the hero, but it's not that easy. We're not going to be able to do this at all if you can't do your job. This is important,” you stress, grabbing her by the shoulder, “We can't save them if you don't keep us tethered. I refuse to give up on your team, but I need you to do the same. We'll ALL be relying on you.”

“I know that,” Ava mutters, gritting her teeth and clenching her eyes shut.

“Then LOOK at me!” you insist, shaking her shoulder, “We CAN do this, but only with your help. If we get this done, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to take you all out to the greasiest burger joint we have in town.”

This jolts Ava back to reality. She opens her eyes, staring at you as if you're the world's biggest idiot. “You what?” she snaps, “A burger joint?”

“I figured you could do with the motivation,” you explain, giving her a deliberately casual shrug, “And maybe this whole “heroic rescue” thing wasn't doing it for you. So, I figured you might appreciate something a little more down to earth. Besides, how can you be part of the team if you don't come out and enjoy some junk food with us?”

With an exasperated sigh, Ava heaves herself to her feet and offers you a half up. “If you insist,” she mutters, “But a diet of greasy burgers is definitely no way of living. You'll regret it when you're older, you know.”

“Yeah, well, you haven't tasted the burgers here yet,” you conclude with a grin, “They are SO worth it.”

-

“Dirac Portal readings are as stable as always. No signs of deterioration or instability. You're good to go, exploration team,” Monroe orders, her voice crackling through the radio, “How are we feeling today?”

“Strange,” you admit, “Something feels... different. Can't put my finger on it though.”

“Huh. I'm not seeing anything abnormal on your readings. No issues here,” Monroe answers, a slight hesitation in her voice as she checks her data again, “If you're worried, we can scrub the mission and-”

“No!” you interrupt, “No, I... it's nothing to worry about. I think I know what it is now. We can't cancel the mission now.” Nodding hastily to yourself, you reach up and touch your forehead again. Even in the warm LCL, your skin feels a hint warmer than normal. Savouring the feeling for a moment more, you start to approach the portal. Juliet moves by your side, her stride careful and measured. ADM Units are a blank slate at the best of times, but now it hides any hint at her true feelings.

Pulling up a video screen, you glance into Juliet's entry plug. She has a faint smile on her face, a sad smile. A smile that reveals no more than her ADM does.

It's time to go.

[1/?]
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>>4034861

Strange, this layer of the Dirac Sea. Some will has given it form, but you're not sure if any human will could be responsible. You sink lower and lower as if moving through water, through oil, and the void hardens into thick walls around you. Like narrow tunnels or the veins of some giant body, the featureless corridors branch off and twist away in mad pathways. If not for Ava whispering directions in your ear, you could easily wander this place for hours – hours, days, even weeks.

“Go straight here. Then left,” Ava murmurs, “You're getting close. Can you remember the way back?”

“Absolutely not,” you reply, your voice tight, “I think these tunnels are changing behind us. I'm sure these tunnels are changing behind us.”

Ava just sighs, lapsing back into silence as you navigate through the next junction. It took you a while to figure out the best way to move, twisting your body with a sinuous motion, but now you can steer easily enough. It's going to be a different matter on the way up, when you're fighting against the pull of this place, but you'll worry about that later. You're taking this operation one step at a time.

-

Straight on, then left, and then you're in free fall for the last few moments. Touching down on the soft, sucking mud, you take a few tentative steps forwards. It pulls at you, giving you a ponderous gait, but it's nothing you can't handle. The first of the BLUE EYE units lies a short distance away, their motionless hand reaching out from the mire. Silent, imploring... pleading. Trudging through the mire, you spot another Nephilim Unit, then another. Juliet follows closely, a long trident held at low rest.

“They're all here. All five of them,” you murmur, “No... no signs of activity.”

“Holly...” Karina whispers, her mind brushing against yours, “I don't like this. I think you should, ah, leave.”

“Not yet!” you hiss, looking around at the motionless Nephilim Units. There, your eyes settle on the half-buried remains of Unit 05. Emma. Reaching out with a tentative hand, you brush away some of the crusted mud clinging to the machine and-

Emma's hand closes around your wrist and pulls, dragging you off your feet. With the same shuddering movements, the rest of the Nephilim Units lurch into life. Two of them collapse down onto you, clinging tightly onto you as they try to drag you down into the mud. Juliet is there in an instant, barging the Nephilim Units aside and pulling you back to your feet. Before you can fully rise, the last two of the BLUE EYE team grab Juliet and yank her away. You fall again, hastily rolling to the side as a broken spear stabs into the ground beside you. With blind, mechanical motions, the Nephilim Units attack.

“Holly!” Juliet grunts, “The power cables-”

Glancing around, you see what she means – the Nephilim Units have thick cables pierced through their backs, but... this is something else.

Something Lilim.

[2/3]
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>>4034975
We'll need to sever those cables or failing that go straight for the source.
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Rolled 49, 49, 82, 83, 26 = 289 (5d100)

>>4034975

You know it's going to suck, but you pause long enough to take a closer look. The thick cables trail out from their backs and lead down into the depths of the mud, connected up to some unknown source. Before you can see anything further, the Nephilim Units renew their attacks. Broken spears and clumsy feet rain down on you, dozens of glancing blows pounding against your armour.

“Holly. Listen to me,” Bergmann announces, her voice cold and hard, “We're not detecting any signs of human life. Those girls are gone, and the Nephilim Units have been compromised. They're just extensions of their Lilim master. We're designating the target as the Lilim “Gusoyn”. You have to complete your mission.”

“I can't!” you cry out, yelling in pain as a spear plunges down and stabs into your shoulder, the broken tip slipping between segments of armour. Almost as soon as it pierces into you, the spear is ripped out and a hand appears in front of you. Grabbing it, you allow Juliet to pull you back upright. Stumbling, you press your back against hers as the Nephilim Units circle around you. Breathing out a curse, you look at the shambling zombies surrounding you. You've been preparing yourself for this, but...

That doesn't make it any easier.

>Target designated as the Lilim Gusoyn
>Target HP: 60/60
>Current Integrity: 50/50
>Current Ego: 80/90

“They're protecting the central body. We need to...” Juliet whispers, “We need to clear a path. We need to cut through.”

This is totally not good.

>Calling for a close combat attack. This will be 1D100+50 due to Juliet's abilities, aiming for a target of 65. I'll be taking the first three rolls for this
>Additionally, rolling for Gusoyn's attack – 5D100, each roll aiming for a target of 40
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Rolled 98 + 50 (1d100 + 50)

>>4035017
Well at least one missed.
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Rolled 99 + 50 (1d100 + 50)

>>4035017
We should work on finding the source of the cables.
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Rolled 1 + 50 (1d100 + 50)

>>4035017
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>>4035037
Impressive.

We should Overdrive it. Juliet is giving us extra Ego for this fight.
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Should we overdrive?
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Rolled 62 + 50 (1d100 + 50)

>>4035017
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>>4035037
Fuck.
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>>4035041
We absolutely should overdrive. When at numerical disadvantage, we need to reduce the opposition numbers as quickly as possible.
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>>4035046

Crocell (also called Crokel or Procell) is the 49th spirit of the Goetia, manifesting as an angel with a tendency to speak in dark and mysterious ways. Once a member of the Powers, he is now a Duke of Hell who rules over 48 legions of demons. When summoned by a conjuror, he can teach geometry and other liberal sciences. He can also warm bodies of water, create the illusion of the sound of rushing waters, and reveal the location of natural baths.


I wonder if they are linked up to Unit 05-2 or something..
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>Okay, so I'm seeing support for using an Overdrive here. I'll take that, and I'll be writing up the next part.
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>>4035056
Gusion (also Gusoin, Gusoyn) is a strong Great Duke of Hell, and rules over forty legions of demons. He tells all past, present and future things, shows the meaning of all questions that are asked to him, reconciles friends, and gives honour and dignity. He is depicted as a baboon or according to some, in the form of a "xenophilus."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_demons_in_the_Ars_Goetia

Currently listening to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nspxAG12Cpc
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Rolled 82, 55, 95, 52 = 284 (4d100)

>Four successes from Gusyon!
>Success – increased to Potent Success with Overdrive!

With one mind, the Nephilim Units fall upon you. Their movements are less clumsy, less clunky than they were only a few moments more, animated by their master's terrible power. It's like they're waking up, shaking off their long slumber and discovering a fresh source of purpose. You, on the other hand, are slow. Hesitant. No amount of preparation could have prepared you for this, and you find yourself standing motionless in place as the puppets lunge. Another spear pierces through your torso as a club-like hand beats against your head. Hands clutch at you, scraping down your armour plate and straining to pull the metal skin free.

>Integrity damage: 8
>Ego damage: 8

“Holly!” Juliet cries, desperation leaving her voice raw. Just from her voice, you can tell that she's struggling with her own battles. Out of the corner of your eye, you can see her pushing towards the source of the cables. You just need to hold the puppet soldiers off for a moment more...

Collapsing down to one knee, you groan as the Nephilim Units pile onto you. It feels like some absurd playground game, the name dancing just on the edge of your memory. Struggling with every inch of motion, you raise the pile bunker and press it into the closest body. Before you trigger the potent weapon, you spot the number painted onto the decaying armour – Unit 03. Evelyn.

“I'm sorry,” you grunt, pulling the trigger. The pile bunker discharges with explosive force, hurling the Nephilim Unit back in a flurry of shattered metal. The blast knocks the others back too, an arm – you're not sure whose – flying free from the mass of bodies.

>Damage inflicted: 18
>Hope: Ego increased by 3
>Overdrive: Ego decreased by 5
>Current Integrity: 42/50
>Current Ego: 70/90
>Target HP: 42/60

A moment's reprieve. Lurching to your feet, you shake off the mud clinging to your body and assess the situation. Evelyn... Unit 03 doesn't look like it's going to be getting up in a hurry, but the damage is slowly starting to repair itself. They'll just keep coming until you do something about the main body. Glancing back, you spot Juliet digging furiously at the mud. She's working on it, but she needs more time.

“I'm engaging the targets now,” you whisper, preparing for the next attack.

>Calling for a close combat attack. This will be 1D100+45 now, aiming for a target of 65. I'll be taking the first three rolls for this
>Additionally, rolling for Gusoyn's next attack – 4D100, each roll aiming for a target of 40
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Rolled 2 + 45 (1d100 + 45)

>>4035078
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Rolled 38 + 45 (1d100 + 45)

>>4035078
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Rolled 18 + 45 (1d100 + 45)

>>4035078
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Rolled 1 + 45 (1d100 + 45)

>>4035078
Can we like target the limbs and shit?
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Rolled 91 + 45 (1d100 + 45)

>>4035078
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>>4035080
>>4035087
>>4035089
I guess we really don't want to fight these girls huh. Gotta get it together and realize that we'll find them in the sea of thought, not the monsters that ate them.
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Looks like it's going to be one of those days
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Rolled 100, 80, 30 = 210 (3d100)

>4 successes from Gusyon
>Clash!

With a burst of stumbling haste, one of the Nephilim Units lunges forwards and grabs your shoulders, pushing you back down to one knee and holding you as the others swarm on. Unit 02, you realise with a bleak, bitter humour. The blind, blunt muzzle slams down into your face as the puppet headbutts you, the blow causing your vision to fill with static. The blow damages the puppet as much as it damages you, the decaying armour sloughing away and allowing its jaw to hang slack before its teeth clatter together in a sudden frenzy.

“H-H-Holly,” the Nephilim Unit groans, spitting out a distorted imitation of Fiona's cheerful voice, “H-H-Holly!”

Clenching your eyes shut, barely noticing the blows raining down on you, you let out a long scream of anguish. Bad enough when they attacked in silence, but now they're fucking TALKING and-

>Integrity damage: 8
>Ego damage: 8

“Damn you!” Juliet cries, sweeping her trident through the air and knocking back the swarming Nephilim Units. Throwing yourself forwards, you knock the puppet over and bring your pile bunker crashing down onto its deformed face. Smashing the blunt weapon down again and again, you only stop after the creature's skull has been pulverised, ground into the cloying mud. “This is bad!” Juliet adds, “We need to-”

“We can do this!” you interrupt, snarling the words out, “We. Can. Do. THIS.”

>Damage inflicted: 6
>Hope: Ego increased by 1
>Current Integrity: 34/50
>Current Ego: 63/90
>Target HP: 36/60

Two down. Two down, and three to go. God, but it hurts!

>Time for another close combat attack. This will be 1D100+35 now, due to Juliet's abilities and our Integrity damage, still aiming for a target of 65. I'll be taking the first three rolls for this
>Additionally, rolling for Gusoyn's next attack – 3D100 now, each roll aiming for a target of 40
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Rolled 11 + 35 (1d100 + 35)

>>4035134
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Rolled 23 + 35 (1d100 + 35)

>>4035134
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Rolled 83 + 35 (1d100 + 35)

>>4035134
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Rolled 88 + 35 (1d100 + 35)

>>4035134
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>Two successes from Gusyon!
>Clash!

There's something wrong with your leg, a piece of broken spear jammed deep into the joint and keeping you from rising to your full height. You stumble forwards a few steps, spreading your arms wide and inviting the next attack. There's a taste of blood in your mouth, and your guts sing with pain. You can only keep this up for so long before you're carved to pieces, pulled apart and dragged down into the mire.

A window opens on your display, a feed from what Juliet can see. She's found something deep beneath the mud, a fleshy limb – an arm, you think – like the first glimpse of a drowned corpse. Encouraged by this, she digs with renewed strength... until something falls upon her. One of the Nephilim Units must have circled around behind you and pounced on her, taking advantage of the momentary distraction. Turning to her, you grab the Nephilim in a choking grip and pull it back. Juliet grabs her trident and plunges it into the puppet's body, pushing it back and pinning it to the soft mud. She reaches to pull her weapon free, and-

And a spear slams into your back, thrust with enough force to pierce you completely. Staggering forwards under the second blow, you let out a deep growl of pain. “Keep digging!” you spit, the taste of blood suddenly so much more vivid on your tongue, “Don't... stop... now!”

>Integrity damage: 4
>Ego damage: 4
>Damage inflicted: 6
>Hope: Ego increased by 1
>Current Integrity: 30/50
>Current Ego: 60/90
>Target HP: 30/60

Juliet leaps to obey, to unearth the monster behind all of this, and you're left with no choice but to wrestle with the spears piercing your body. Although it lights up a signal flare of pure white agony, you start to work yourself free from the jagged blade. Just as you're about to pry it free something lands on your back, slender fingers clawing at your face. Finding some narrow crack in your armour, they work their way in and pry the gap wider. Your skin crawls as you feel ghostly fingertips brushing against your face – not YOUR face, you try to remember – with a hideously intimate touch. Pressing deeper into your flesh, you-

You can hear the sea, the sound of the waves crashing against the beach.

That's not right.

-

Blinking against the suddenly blinding sun, you look up into the beautiful blue sky. A gentle wind blows, carrying the scent of salt to your senses, and you hear distant voices laughing. It's warm here, warm and relaxing. You could happily lie on this warm sand for hours, for as long as the beautiful weather allows. “It's nice here,” you breathe, “Is it always this nice?”

“Yeah dude. All year round,” Mia replies, her voice cool and smug, “We could go surfing later, if you like. You ever tried it? It's no big deal if you're a newbie. My bro can teach you.”

“That sounds nice too,” you agree, smiling to yourself, “Maybe in a little while. Let's just enjoy the sun for now.”

“Peace,” she murmurs.

[1/?]
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>>4035207
Shit we got an intrusion.
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>>4035207

Sand crunches softly as Mia sits up, casually shaking her long hair out and brushing away the fine powder. “Want to see my place?” she asks, rising and slowly stretching, “It's not far. Just on the beachfront there. The big hotel, see?” Pointing, she gestures to the large building. It's pretty ugly, salmon pink paint flaking away in places, but Mia beams with pride as she looks at it. “Hotel California,” she adds, nodding towards the faded sign, “My folks thought they were so clever when they named it. Must be a dozen different places with the same name. Still, ours is the best. C'mon, why are you just standing there?”

“I'm coming, I'm coming,” you reply, shaking your head, “I just... I feel like I'm forgetting something important. My phone? No, I left that... somewhere. Not here, that's for sure.”

“C'mon dude, stop worrying about the little things. You're supposed to be on holiday, remember?” Mia jokes, nudging you with her elbow, “You know what you need? A mojito. I make a mean mojito.”

“I'm sure you do, but...” you pause, “Aren't you a little young for that?”

Looking back, Mia gives you an enigmatic smile.

-

The hotel looks dilapidated from the outside, but it's even worse outside. Whistling tunelessly, Mia runs her fingertips across the dusty counter and inspects the filth. “Wowee. I guess we've really let this place go. Our folks are away on holiday, some minivan thing, and we've been slacking off. Kinda embarrassing myself here, huh?” she remarks, slapping the rusting bell on the counter. It rings with a hollow croak, the sound echoing through the empty halls. “Huh. That's odd,” she murmurs, “Normally he'd come running when he heard that. I wonder if he's sleeping somewhere. Or stoned. Could be either.”

“Who?” you ask, looking around. The hotel is oddly featureless – no pictures hanging on the walls, no tourist crap on the front desk. Just bare wood and a few sticks of furniture.

“Uh, my brother. Duh?” Mia explains, raising an eyebrow, “What, you forgot that already? You're really breaking my heart here, dude.”

“Your brother, right,” you murmur, “I didn't forget about him, but... what was his name again?”

Mia hesitates for a long moment before giving you an easy smile. “Hey, I don't want to steal his thunder. He can introduce himself,” she decides, “When he actually turns up, I mean. Man, talk about unreliable! He's probably around here somewhere, maybe napping in one of the upstairs rooms. That's the problem with having a hotel, you've got your pick of the rooms. Could be in any one of them. So... yeah.”

So yeah.

>Well, let's go and search the rooms for him!
>I want to go back to the beach. I'm sure he'll find us eventually!
>Hey, didn't you promise me a drink? This heat is killing me!
>I've got an idea... (Write in)
>Other
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>Hey, didn't you promise me a drink? This heat is killing me!

Not the only thing killing me ahhaha
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>>4035268
>Hey, didn't you promise me a drink? This heat is killing me!
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>>4035268
>Well, let's go and search the rooms for him!
His name is Vic isn't it.

I'm sure that Unit 02 has the other side of this well in hand.
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>>4035268
>Hey, didn't you promise me a drink? This heat is killing me!
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>>4035268
>Well, let's go and search the rooms for him!
I hope this gives us time to dig her Ego back out of the Lilim.
Shit, they all are good girls. I don't want them to die.
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>>4035268
>>Hey, didn't you promise me a drink? This heat is killing me!
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“Hey, didn't you promise me a drink?” you point out, wiping your brow, “This heat is killing me!”

“Oh shit, you're right!” Mia yelps, jolting around in shock, “Yeah, it can get pretty brutal out here. You'll get used to it eventually though. I mean, you're planning on sticking around, right?”

“I... think so?” you reply slowly, scratching your head, “Yeah, I think so. It's nice here, after all.”

Nodding to herself, Mia crosses behind the front desk and checks the book. “Yeah, got your name down here. Booked into the honeymoon suite, open ended booking with your folks picking up the bill. Must be nice, huh?” she remarks, “Maybe we should rename it the Hollymoon suite for now. Pretty cool idea, if I do say so myself.”

This doesn't seem quite right. “My folks are paying?” you ask, “Are you sure?”

“Yeah. Got their names right here. Diane and... uh... Mister Reynolds,” Mia looks up, giving you a dubious look, “It's not “Burt”, is it?” Chuckling to herself, she closes the book and scurries out from behind the bar. “Well, never mind that now. We're not to fussy about keeping the books. Totally fucked if the taxman ever shows up, but it's like they don't even know this place exists,” she assures you, “Bar's this way, I'll fix the drinks!”

-

Standing behind the bar, Mia make a show of fixing your drinks. Setting down two glasses full of crushed ice, she produces a bottle and yanks the cork out with her teeth. Spitting it out and laughing, she tips the bottle and pours. Thick black sludge creeps out, oozing through the crushed ice until both glasses are full up with the tarry goop. Delicately slipping a sprig of mint into each glass, Mia pushes one towards you. “Looks good, huh?” she declares, “But you'd better watch out, these things will put you on your back if you're not careful.”

With that, Mia sits back and takes a deep sip of her drink. The black tar clings to her lips, a thin ribbon of the slime leaking from the corner of her mouth. “Damn, that's good,” she groans, miming exaggerated pleasure, “Go on, try it!”

Your hand trembles slightly as you lift the glass to your lips, a pungent smell of fish and rotting flesh rising off it. You start to take the first sip, and-

“Mia Vier, you put that drink down immediately!” a new voice rings out, and you both jolt around to see Ava standing in the doorway, her face twisted with a furious scowl. Marching across the room, she slaps the glass out of your hands. “And you!” she barks, “You'd better not be encouraging this! I was trusting you to take care of my team, not playing along with their foolishness!”

“S-sorry...” you stammer, “I was-”

“You're sorry? Well, you definitely make for a sorry sight!” Ava snarls, pointing at your stomach, “What do you call THIS?”

Following her finger, you look down – down at the thick, glistening cable piercing deep into your navel.

[1/2]
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>>4035360
>“Yeah. Got their names right here. Diane and... uh... Mister Reynolds,”

Wow. Subconsciously Holly wants Monroe as her mother.

>You'd better not be encouraging this! I was trusting you to take care of my team, not playing along with their foolishness!”

I'm sorry Ava. We talked a big game, but RNGesus took the wheel tonight.
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>>4035360

As soon as you see that grotesque, writhing appendage, you begin to scream. Blind panic overwhelms you as you fall from the tall bar stool, clawing at the invading tentacle. It's stuck fast, lodged deep inside you no matter how hard you tug at it. Ava crouches beside you, grabbing onto the tendril and preparing to help you pull, but Mia lunges to stop her. “No!” the young girl cries, her voice shrill with desperation, “No, you can't do this! She's staying here, staying with all of...”

Grabbing the younger girl by the scruff of her neck, Ava pushes her away. Slamming hard into the bar, Mia collapses down to the ground and stares blindly towards the ceiling as Ava turns back to you.

“Sorry Reynolds,” she mutters, wrapping her fingers around the cable, “But this is going to suck.”

And then she rips it out of you.

-

You emerge, still screaming, into the battlefield. Juliet sits slumped a short distance away, clinging desperately to the flailing tentacle. Pain slams into your guts, and you don't need to look down at your body to see the gaping wound left behind when she ripped the cable out of you. The Nephilim Units stumble back, left reeling by the sudden reversal of their fortunes and blindly retreating to defend their master. You can see parts of it, the bleached and bloated corpse that Juliet unearthed.

Lurching to your feet, you lunge towards the Lilim's central body. Two of the Nephilim Units turn to bar your passage, their jerky motions somehow suggesting panic. Your body aches, but you can still move and your weapons still work. You're not done yet.

>Calling for a close combat attack. This is still 1D100+35 and we're still aiming for a target of 65. I'll be taking the first three rolls for this one
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Rolled 25 + 35 (1d100 + 35)

>>4035380
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Rolled 13 + 35 (1d100 + 35)

>>4035380
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Rolled 35 + 35 (1d100 + 35)

>>4035380
rollan


>>4035373
better mom than hers, not that much of a stretch.
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These dice want us dead.
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>>4035385
>>4035386
>>4035388
wow we cannot roll for SHIT today
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Rolled 78 + 35 (1d100 + 35)

>>4035380

yikes
we shoulda stayed in the abyss with mia
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Dice despise us tonight. We are 3 for 12 rolls that count that are above 40.
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>>4035395
At least we decided to grab the damage upgrade when we could, our clash does the same damage as 3 of their successes.
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>Clash!

A band of iron closes around your ankle, closing tight and dragging you back. Collapsing down to the soft mud, you look back to see the remains of Unit 05, the remains of Mia's unit – clinging to you. She hauls herself closer, broken legs dragging behind her, and you can practically hear the beach again. You can hear the waves crashing against the beach, hear the phantom laughter carried on the wind. It would be easier to let go, to let her pull you back down into that pleasant dream, but-

With a snarl of frustration, you kick out at her. Driving your foot down into the crippled Nephilim's face, you kick again and again until something snaps, her neck twisted cruelly back by the force of your final blow. Shaking off the crippled Nephilim's slack grip, you dig your fingers into the soft mud and pull yourself forwards. Two of the puppets left intact now. Just two of them. Just... two of them.

>Damage inflicted: 6
>Hope: Ego increased by 1
>Current Integrity: 30/50
>Current Ego: 61/90
>Target HP: 24/60

The two remaining puppet soldiers stalk closer, raising their spears as they approach your prone form. You watch them approach with a weary sigh, almost welcoming their attacks. The spears flash down, only to be caught as a clash of metal rings out. Looking up, you see Juliet bracing against the attack, one spear caught between the blades of her trident and the other piercing through the side of her neck. You can see the other end of it jutting through her back, dark with blood and trapped in her body.

“Go!” Juliet snarls, “I've got them... here. You've got a... a clear shot! Go!”

The Lilim. Just beyond the last of the guards, the Lilim's central body waits. You've got a clear shot, just like she says, but-

>You can't let this opportunity go to waste, you need to go for the central body!
>You can't leave Juliet behind with these two puppets, you need to stay and fight!
>You need to... (Write in)
>Other
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>>4035442
>You can't leave Juliet behind with these two puppets, you need to stay and fight!
We can clean up here first, then proceed.
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>>4035442
>You can't leave Juliet behind with these two puppets, you need to stay and fight!
Can't have her being turned on us when we're least expecting it.
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>>4035442
>You need to... (Write in)
Do we still have contact with Ava? Can she give us a command phrase that the blue eyes might respond to? Try and get them to shut down for just a moment so we can finish the fight. If not, then help Juliet
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>>4035442
>>You can't leave Juliet behind with these two puppets, you need to stay and fight!
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>>4035442
>You can't let this opportunity go to waste, you need to go for the central body!

There are like 50 Juliets.
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>>4035465
But this one is ours.
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>Okay, so it looks like we're staying to fight. In that case, I'll call for a roll now - 1D100+30 now, against the usual target of 65. Again, I'll take the first three options for this and start writing up
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Rolled 32 + 30 (1d100 + 30)

>>4035467
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Rolled 5 + 30 (1d100 + 30)

>>4035467
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Rolled 80 + 30 (1d100 + 30)

>>4035467
God fuck us
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Rolled 19 + 30 (1d100 + 30)

>>4035467
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Rolled 13 + 30 (1d100 + 30)

>>4035467
nat 100 plus 50 points
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>>4035469
>>4035470
It's absolutely wild how poorly we're rolling
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>>4035481
We did worse against Malthus, it's just that "Gusoyn" has more health.
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>Clash!

But you can't just leave her like this! She's already got one spear through her, and there's only so long she can hold off the second blade. This one might find her throat, her head, even breaching the entry plug itself...

You can't risk it. You can't leave her like this.

“Ava! Ava, can you hear me?” you call out, “I need your help! I need you to give an order, something to get your people to stand down. Even just for a second would be enough, I just need an opening!”

No answer. Not at first. “An order?” Ava mutters, her voice thick as if she had just woken from a deep sleep, “I don't understand...”

“Damn it!” you hiss. She sounds totally out of it. What was it that Brahms said about the connection? It might be too much for her, he might cut it off or... something like that. Damn it, you really need to start listening to these mission briefings! Cursing yourself for a fool, you lunge at the pair of Nephilim as Juliet slips, her guard breaking as she stumbles. Before the spear can plunge home into her chest, you're there to catch the jagged blade. The force of the blow is enough to stagger you, pushing your feet down into the soft, slushy mud, and you can't quite bring your pile bunker into range.

“Unit 05...” Ava murmurs, and you hear a faint squeal of static as your radio is hijacked, “Emma?”

The Nephilim pauses, seeming to hesitate for a second.

“Emma!” Ava cries, new strength rushing into her voice, “Emma, I'm sorry! I never should have pushed you so hard, never should have blamed you for... for anything! I'm sorry for every time we shut you out, but you were always one of us. So please, just help us!”

The effect is instantaneous. The Nephilim staggers back, clumsy hands clutching at its head as the spear drops from its grip. You lunge forwards again, lowering your shoulder and barging the Nephilim Unit off its feet. Beside you, Juliet twists and wraps her arm around the second Nephilim Unit's next, hauling it down the ground and pinning it beneath her weight. It flails at her, but there's no leverage – for now, at least, it's harmless. Nephilim Unit 05 writhes on the ground, showing no sign of recovery, and you see your chance.

Ava bought you both enough time. Now you've got to make use of it.

>Damage inflicted: 6
>Hope: Ego increased by 1
>Current Integrity: 30/50
>Current Ego: 62/90
>Target HP: 18/60

Stomping through the mud, fighting against its clinging pull with every step you take, you struggle up to the edge of the pit – the grave – that Juliet dug up. Inside, bloated and decaying, you gaze down at the sad remains of Coraline's ADM. It's hollow now, nothing more than a home for some new parasite. Collapsing over the remains, you spot a long crack running down the ADM's navel, the thick cables forcing their way through the gap. Digging your fingers in, you lever the broken armour open until the Lilim is revealed.

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>>4035505

A shapeless, flabby thing, it quivers helplessly as you reach down and close your hands around it. Ripping it from its armoured womb, holding it aloft, you squeeze the Lilim tighter and tighter until it bursts wetly, showering pallid fluids down upon you. Behind you, the remaining puppets freeze in place before wilting, an accelerated decay consuming them in a matter of seconds. As the last of the Lilim's pale blood drips down upon you, you let out a low gasp of relief.

>Target destroyed
>Ego increased by 10
>Current Ego: 72/90

“Holly? Holly, can you hear me?” Karina calls out, her voice shaking as it reaches you, “You need to get out of there, as quickly as you can! That Lilim was keeping this pocket intact. If you're still inside when it collapses, we might not be able to recover you. Go on, go!”

“I'm going, I'm going!” you snap, limping over to Juliet and dragging her to her feet. She still has the spear run through her, and she's covered in a thick layer of filth, but she gives you a jerky nod. She's good to move. Pointing to the faint light beaming down from above, you lead the way back to your entrance point. Above you, countless tunnel entrances yawn open with false promises, all but one leading to failure and a dead end. “You've gotta be kidding me,” you mutter, “It definitely wasn't like this when-”

“Top left. Your left, not mine. The tunnel looks like an L,” Ava whispers, her voice weaker than ever, “What are you waiting for, soldier? I'm ordering you to move your backside!”

“Yes sir!” you grunt, setting your sights on the tunnel entrance and jumping with all your might. The “air” here feels thick, and you find yourself clawing your way towards the target.

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With the void chasing you, closing up behind you with every inch of ground you cover, Ava whispers directions in your ear. First, you wonder if she's delirious – the directions are wild, twisting this way and that with no sane path in mind, but they slowly even out. The junctions get less and less common, until finally you come to a long, straight tunnel with no diversions. “Ava? I'm seeing a straight shot ahead. We must be close now, right?” you grunt, dragging yourself down – or maybe up – the tunnel, “Ava?”

No answer. Just the soft hiss of static from the radio.

“There's nowhere else we CAN go,” Juliet gasps, “We just need to... to keep moving. We're not out of here yet!”

Not yet, but you're close. You can finally see the portal exit swimming before you, promising escape if you can just find the strength to reach it. You keep calling out to Ava as you move further through the collapsing tunnels, but you never get an answer. Then you're at the portal, at last, and you drag yourself back into the real world. The sun is beating down hard as you emerge, and you tilt your damaged face up to greet it.

Real sunshine. Not that phony illusion that you shared with Mia. The real thing.

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I have to wonder how badly Bergmann is freaking out, since this isn't even the last Lilium that we're going to need to face, we just got our asses handed to us and we won't use her Engine. We're probably not going to be in any better shape by the time that Lilith shows up.
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>>4035533

“Holly, wait!” Monroe calls out, hurrying after you as you march down towards the laboratory and the test plugs. She reaches out to grab your arm, to stop you from going any further, only to pull her hand back before making contact with you. Faltering, stopping in her tracks, she leaves you to storm on ahead. Maybe she realises how futile it would be, to try and stop you. She might really believe that she has your best interests at heart, but you don't give a damn.

You need to see her. You need to see her NOW.

A cold silence hangs over the testing chamber when you arrive, both doctors standing uneasily by the open test plug. Brahms looks around, wincing at the sight of you, but he doesn't say anything. Bergmann doesn't seem to notice you, her gaze fixed on the inside of the test plug. You push past her, standing between the two scientists as you peer into the hollow cylinder. You peer inside, and-

“No way...” you whisper, “Where is she? What happened to...”

“I warned her,” Brahms murmurs, his voice low and solemn, “But she wouldn't let me sever the connection. She said she still had work to do.”

“Yeah, but...” you stammer, your eye drawn to the reddish LCL spilling out over the rim of the testing plug, “But...”

But Ava, the last member of the BLUE EYE team, is gone.

>Okay, so I think I'm going to pause this here for today. I'm hoping to continue this by next Friday, although it may end up being Saturday instead. Depends on my work schedule at the moment. Updates to come on that front
>Thank you for your contributions today!
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>>4035550
Thanks for running!

but also fuck.

Did we encourage her too hard?
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>>4035550
Thanks for the run.

I have a feeling that Holly is going to go absolutely Nuclear shortly, since Bergmann took yet another friend from her.
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>>4035550
Thanks for running.

If we didn't fuck up so much with the rolls would Ava had survived?

>>4035555
Nice quads, but Bergmann didn't do this.
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>>4035550
We'll get her back. We can get them all back. Ava is real.
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>>4035550
Thanks for running.
More smiles are gone for good.
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>>4035570
They said that they would sever the link if it became necessary because she couldn't take it ( >>4034719 ), they didn't, It is likely Bergmann made the case that Holly is more important since she is the only one that can use the Engine so this is on them entirely.
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>>4035554
There's no such thing as going too hard. Unless you melt and turn into Tang, then you might have gone a little too hard. Just a little, mind you

>>4035570
Well, if we'd rolled straight successes and really wrecked shit up, things likely would have been more favourable. Then again, Ava was already pretty close to the brink - she was coming into this on a bad footing.
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>>4035610
The body count rises.

Is it time for juliet to gattai with her sisters?
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>>4035550
This is not Eva anymore, this is fucking Bokurano.
Give us the girls back Moloch.
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>>4036023
>>4036155
I worry about Holly's mental state. She lost Coraline (executed herself), Nate, and all of BLUE EYE team in just a few days. Shit we still need to break the news of Nate to Kaori and Claudia. We were the original four pilots.
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>>4036181
Nate was never a pilot
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>>4036599
Original group then. You know what I mean.
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>>4036181
>Some discussion about Yulia being sidelined a bit potentially due to character bloat.
>Moloch: Hold my beer
>Claps 8 characters in short timespan

Delightfully Devilish
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In Bergmann's AT wizard plan, I get that the blood of Lilith mixed into humanity soup would allow people to reform as AT wizards. If humanity got souped and we killed Lilith without making her bleed somehow, would people still be able to reform out of humanity soup, or is her blood somehow supposed to be necessary or at least useful letting people reform?

That's an academic question. The real question is, would putting lillim material into some LCL make it easier for a soul to reconstitute itself with a body? Ideally we would revive all those people that suffered ego collapse 'naturally' by putting their souls into clone bodies or by just dragging them out of the sea of thought by force, but maybe as a last resort we could try doing that to revive Ava or Clair. Ava's LCL is still in the testing plug, right? She's got a strong soul. After all, she's based at least partially on Holly.
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>>4040797
I think that the average person doesn't have a strong enough AT field to reconstitute themselves without outside help. We have a couple of methods that we could use, each of the pilots could probably do one person a day in order to get the Cloning process up and running, we could also use any surviving Units to speed up the process, or even stick a control rod in Adam and use a Unit or Nate as leverage to get the process going world wide.
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>>4040797
> or is her blood somehow supposed to be necessary or at least useful letting people reform?

Correct. Her essence infused with humanity's is what will allow them to be strong enough to reform themselves. What comes out probably won't be human though.

>but maybe as a last resort we could try doing that to revive Ava or Claire.

Claire's LCL (and potentially soul) is actually inside Holly. It's what allows Holly to pilot and go bodiless. Holly's soul on it's own isn't anything special I think.
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>>4040896
It depends on what the definition of Human is, for most people Assuming that the memory transfer, among a whole bunch of other little things, works

Is that they wake up eventually with strange new powers, that they don't even realize that they have, then proceed to be enslaved, killed or worse on the Beach where they woke up by those who returned prior to them, since I would assume that those with a stronger connection or reason to return will disassociate from the collective first, at least in the beginning, then once they group together and leave the shores behind, since none of the people with the know how to run all the little things that allow a modern society are there to run it all, and no one is there to enforce order on the newly returned, there will be no incentives for any one to do anything for anyone, except for the threat of Violence.
So whatever is left of the surviving infrastructure would be rapidly striped for parts Avalon and Academy absolutely would be since they are based in populous Cities by the newly formed, roving gangs, sole survivors and anyone unfortunate enough to make it off the beach.Anybody that managed to survive 2nd Impact would have a definite advantage, also it is likely that the UN has taken steps to prepare for a repeat to some degree, so very basic things would likely be easy to find.

And if any Units mange to make it through the final battle, and remain in a state where they could be piloted or repaired to such a capacity, with or without their Pilots Since the rating of the general populous would increase the likely pool of pilots would do so as well would provide a strong stabilizing force to any group that manged to maintain it for long enough to spread their influence, cementing their place in the future to come.
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>>4040896
Giving up the ability to go bodiless would definitely be worth bringing Claire back to life though. I guess we really have no idea to extract Claire's soul though. Maybe we could try to take control of a soulless clone and just use that as our new body? It'd be a shame to leave Claire without an eye though.
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>>4041383
Any kind of 'Claire back to life' talk would have to happen *after* we kill Lilith. As it stands we need her to pilot ADMs.
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>>4041475
Dakota or Julia should still be able to pilot Unit 02 even if Holly can't, so it isn't as much of a deal breaker as it could beWe could also take a shot of Lilium Materiel, like Coraline, since we would only need it for a short period of time., it would also be a good idea to talk this out with Brahms and Bergmann before things start, to figure it all out before they become unavailable.
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>>4041848
Anon Bergmann has said that Holly is literally the only one that can kill Lilith due to Claire fortifying her soul and her mindmeld connection to Nate.

Also I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you think you can simply revive people with a few experiments. Death would be meaningless and that's pretty bad from a narrative perspective.
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>>4042096
But in order to "win" we don't need to kill Lilith, all we would need to do is keep her contained until we can come up with a better solution Even if that solutions is to kill her, via Bergmann's method.. The only person that is trying to rush here is Bergmann. Even now we have options as to how we go about doing this.

The entire point of Konstantine's plan was that there would be no Death, or Life. Everyone that had existed would be together as one, and nothing would change until the sun burns out. That's why the plan was attractive to Coraline, Wilson and Holly, At least to some degree.
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>>4042096
People who’ve dissolved into LCL aren’t really dead though, they just forgot that they aren’t everyone else.
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>>4035373
>didn't pick up that "mister" is listed because she doesn't know Fletcher' first name.
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>>4042321
TODAY WE WILL REMIND THEM
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>>4042096
Looks like we should get confirmation that Bergmann's proposed chain of control is:

(Holly +"Claire") are used to pilot "Unit 02" which interfaces with (The Engine "Nate") allowing for Unit 02 to utilize Excalibur's True form to Kill Lilith, more dead than Adam could manage with the same weapon, somehow.

What I would be proposing would be to have Holly take injections of "Lilium Contaminated Material" right before the fight begins so it would look like

( Holly + "LCM" injections ) Pilots a Generic Unit possibly even the remains of Adam with the Engine installed allowing for Unit 02 to utilize Excalibur's True form to Kill Lilith, more dead than Adam Could manage with the same weapon, somehow.

Benefits of this would be the following,
No need for "Claire" to participate so she could be revived, if possible allowing her to return as one of Bergmann's AT wizards
Frees up Unit 02 for Dakota, witch means that we get to bring more Friends to the fight.
Increases the likelihood NERV restoring additional Units for Julia to use, meaning we get even more friends.
Thanks to our work with Huang we know that the process is reversible, assuming that at least one other pilot survives There is even the possibility that whatever is left of "Nate" could do it, so we may not even need a second pilot to survive.
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>>4042931
>What I would be proposing would be to have Holly take injections of "Lilium Contaminated Material"

OOC, specially after Coraline, and for all we know Holly is the only one that can burn a Lilim out of someone due to her situation. We also don't even know if it's possible to get Claire out of Holly. I stand by my stance that all this reviving talk should wait until *AFTER* Lilith dies and the situation is resolved. Anything else can jeopardize everything we've worked towards.
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>>4042973
We don't know if Adam will still be producing Biomass once Lilith dies though, everyone we have talked to about it has said that He will likely enter stasis so it's production might stop, making whatever is left over potentially a very valuable resource, that others may not want to waste on someone like Claire on the other hand it could also lose its restorative qualities.
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>>4042995
I would at very least, want to get the groundwork for a revival attempt setup before the final battle begins, because there no way we can make absolutely sure that Bergmann, Brahms and their support network would survive the battle, or be in a state where they could help facilitate an attempt.
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When you close your eyes, you see yourself floating in an endless ocean beneath a swollen, lurid moon. When you open your eyes, you're back in the funeral gloom of Karina's quarters. You're not really sure why you came here in particular. Because it was close, you suppose. Because the alternative was just standing there, staring into the empty test plug and waiting for some miracle to bring Ava back.

Karina herself sits at an awkward distance, a cup of tea sitting untouched before her. Juliet and Julia are slumped on the sofa, leaning heavily against each other as if drawing strength from the contact. She's changed her hair, Julia, cut it in some subtle but unmistakable way that sets her apart from her double. Is that an omen of a growing independence, perhaps even a rift between the two of them, or is it just... a haircut?

It's not really your priority right now, whichever one it is. Your priority is sitting nearby, her single eye gazing out with all the warmth of a stone idol.

“Did you do this?” you ask, your voice hollow, “Did you make her-”

“I didn't make her do anything,” Bergmann interrupts, “You can't blame me for everything, Holly. Ava knew what she was doing. She accepted the risks. I didn't force her into anything. Quentin?”

“You didn't force her into anything,” Brahms agrees, his voice low, “But you didn't try to stop her either.”

A cold silence falls, Bergmann's eye narrowing with a cold fury. “It was her choice to make,” she spits, rising to her feet and stalking out. Brahms follows, almost reluctantly, and you hear the first angry voices before the door has even finished closing. Karina blinks once, slow and sleepy surprise creeping across her doll-like face. She glances down at her cup of tea as if seeing it for the very first time, then pushes it aside. Her lips start to form words, but nothing comes.

The ailing girl is still silent, still searching for the strength to talk, when Kaori enters. Creeping into the room, Kaori looks like someone treading on sacred ground and expecting to feel divine punishment at any moment. Mastering her fear, or whatever it is that makes her so hesitant, she marches across the room and sits down beside you. “I heard what happened,” she whispers, “It's awful, isn't it?”

“Awful,” you repeat numbly, “Right.”

“I keep wondering if we could have done more. If, I don't know, if we'd reached out to her more,” Kaori continues, thinking aloud to herself, “When she first arrived here, we tried. We really did. But she's... such a hard girl to like. She pushed everyone away. But, well, I guess I know what it's like. I was the same once, in another life.”

“After Berlin?” you guess, glancing around at Karina. Her doll's face remains unchanged, impassive.

“After Berlin,” Kaori repeats, nodding solemnly.

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>>4044379

Kaori shifts around on the battered, sagging sofa, turning until her back leans gently against yours. Like Juliet and Julia, she's fallen back on the simple comfort of human contact – but you're not exactly pushing her away either, so maybe you're no different.

“There was one... moment,” Kaori announces suddenly, “One moment when she almost opened up to me. I was in my room, cleaning some of my models, when Ava stopped by. I can't guess why she decided to visit me, I never thought to ask and she never mentioned anything, but when she saw the models... they fascinated her. She invited herself in, and we... we talked. Not about anything special. Just a normal, nothing sort of conversation.”

You wait, holding your tongue. Kaori considers her next words with agonising care, and then you feel her shrug.

“I thought something might change. I thought she was finally opening up to us,” she states, “But I was wrong. I saw her later that day, and she was as distant as ever. There was a crack in her armour, but it didn't last. Now, I wish I'd... I wish I'd done more, hadn't let her retreat back into her shell. If I'd done that, maybe-”

“Stop clinging to “what if” and “what could have been”. They're poison,” Bergmann interrupts, sweeping back into the room with her long coat fanning out like white wings, “Take that energy and DO something with it!”

To her disappointment, perhaps, you don't all immediately spring into action. You just sit, staring and thinking the same, obvious question – do WHAT?

“Do something with it,” the doctor repeats, whispering the words to herself.

“What I think Doctor Bergmann meant to say is, we may have a way of... salvaging something from this. Although, I must say that I think this is a bad idea. There is a real risk of ego contamination, and the gains would be, at best, sentimental in value,” Brahms explains, stepping around Bergmann, “But, she insisted that we raise the idea. As such, I'll let her explain the rest.”

“We still have the Ava's remains, if you'll excuse the callous term, and they're still showing signs of activity. With the other test plugs, we may be able to establish contact,” Bergmann continues, picking up where Brahms left off, “Don't expect too much, mind you. At most, it's a chance to talk.”

A chance to talk. Or, if Brahms is right, a chance at more ego contamination. You really don't need any more voices in your head, if that's what he's talking about. “Wait a minute,” you begin, although you're not sure what you're about to say. Maybe nothing.

“Best that we do this now, if we're going to do it at all,” Bergmann suggests, “Considering Ava's nature, we're not certain about how stable her ego might be. If we leave it too long, it might... dissipate.”

>I can't do it. I can't bear to see her again
>Then we'd better get started. Count me in
>There's something else... (Write in)
>Other
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>>4044380
>Then we'd better get started. Count me in
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>>4044380
>Then we'd better get started. Count me in
Well it's not like today can get any worse.
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>>4044380
>There's something else... (Write in)
"So how is Ava's state different from one we can expect when Lilith is out of Dirac Sea? Do you have any Lilim's blood around?"

Are you going to prove your theories at any point you absolute madwoman?
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>>4044390
Ava won't be reforming on her own as a new species. She'll just be an echo of who she was, lucid enough to talk I suppose. Kinda like how Coraline found Reed I think.
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>>4044402
The rest of the Blue Eye team is going to be mad when the return, Gusyon managed to hold them together so if Lilith Bleeds like Bergman wants her too, there is a good chance that they would turn back up. only to find out their leader died because she couldn't wait long enough
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>>4044402
Well, why wouldn't she be? If our Head Shaman is so sure of her theory then at least she can make some sort of excuse as to why wouldn't this work. Because on the surface it looks like Holly already could be that 'new species' based on this checklist straight out of my behind.
1. Marked by Lilim's blood (whatever Amon did to Holly).
2. Almost Ego disintegrated (Eleven chairs)
3. Put herself back together by sheer awesomeness (or some other thing).

I'm not insisting we should have Ava back, but hey, why shouldn't this be tried?
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>>4044417
Not saying it shouldn't be tried but, there is a slight risk of her turning out like Coraline later on down the line, and that's probably going to throw a wrench in the gears right before the biggest fight we're going to have.
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“Then we'd better get started, hadn't we?” you decide, rising to your feet and giving the scientists a brisk nod, “Count me in. I don't care about the risks. It's not like this day can get any worse, after all.”

“In my experience, that's not something you should be certain about,” Brahms remarks. For a moment it looks like he might try and argue down, or even flat out forbid the attempt. Then the moment passes, and he shakes his head. “But I understand. This is important to you,” he concedes, standing aside so you can leave, “There's just one thing. A request I have. If you are able to communicate with Ava. I'd like you to tell her something. Tell her that she deserved better. They all did.”

A dozen difference replies form in your head, from sneering insults to cold rage. Carefully setting them aside, saving them for later, you give Brahms a vague gesture of agreement. That's all.

-

“You know she's up to something, right?” Claire points out as you walk, “I mean, she wouldn't be doing this out the goodness of her own heart. This is all part of “the plan”. Whatever that is.”

“I don't know. I don't think so,” you whisper, “Maybe this is her way of... I don't know, making it up to me.”

“But you DO think that,” she insists, “If you didn't, I wouldn't be here telling you this. Like, duh!”

Pointedly ignoring her, you step inside the testing chamber and wince at the sight of Ava's entry plug. It's been sealed up, wrapped tight in a cocoon of bright yellow warning tape, but the overall look just reminds you of a crime scene. Bergmann is already at work with the next plug over, examining it so she doesn't have to look around at you. “Hey. Doc,” you call out, watching with some bitter satisfaction as her shoulders tense up, “Ava's in there, right? No physical form, the way we'd all be if Lilith woke up... or does it not work that way?”

“It doesn't work that way,” Bergmann answers flatly, “Remember. There was never a “real” Ava. She was just something they pieced together from bits and pieces – a stray memory here, a personality trait there. There's nothing for her to really hold onto. That's why we need to be quick. She's not going to last forever, like this. Even now, she might not be entirely stable. You should prepare yourself for the worst.”

“Fuck,” you breathe, stripping off your shirt and throwing it aside. You're still wearing your plugsuit from the previous fight, the glossy material darkened with blood in places. “You're going to be studying this,” you add, glancing around as you climb into the test plug, “Aren't you?”

“Of course. I wouldn't let an opportunity like this pass me by,” Bergmann answers, her voice dark with bitter amusement, “I might be a monster, but I'm not wasteful. Go on then – say hello to Ava for me.”

This is so much bullshit.

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Ok,
So this is now an attempt to reinforce Holly's Ego, using whatever bit's of Ava that they can salvage.
Considering that she is in part based of Holly, it may actually work at least to that end.
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>>4044431
>There was never a “real” Ava.
But there is a "real" Johanna now? Or at least, something approaching "real" for some definition of "real". This doesn't make much sense to me, but I guess I'll roll with it?
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>>4044470
Didn't Brahms investigate one of the Blue Eye's and find where she worked in one of the interludes?
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>>4044470
Also Juliet and Julia are in the next room and they've become pretty damn real. The potential for clones to be "real" is there they just needed more life experience than just being stuck in a bunker training for months on end. They need to find something to hold onto.

>>4044475
Found out where she has memories of working and found the girl that those memories came from, yes.
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>>4044431

The BLUE EYE dorm. A version of it, at least.

Ava sits in the corner of the small gym, her legs crossed and her head low as she skims down the list she's writing. You start to say something, but she silences you with a gesture. Scratching down a few last notes, she pauses to gnaw on the tip of her pen. “Don't distract me. This is important,” she warns, “I need to finish working out next week's training rota. If we repeat the same exercises too often, we'll start getting complacent. I need some new ideas.”

“Ava...” you begin, “Ava, look at me.”

Tucking her pen behind one ear, Ava finally takes her eyes from the page. “This is my job. It needs to get done,” she stresses, scowling at you, “You might not take this seriously, but I do. We're supposed to be professionals.”

“Ava, I think it can wait,” you insist, gently taking the page from her hands. Glancing down at it, you see a confused jumble of letters and loose, meaningless scrawls. “Ava, do you know...” a pause, “Do you know what happened? I mean, with the others. With... Emma.”

Ava reaches across and snatches the note back. Fastidiously smoothing out the creases, she folds it up and tucks it into her pocket. Then, rising to her feet in a single, measured movement, she slips past you and starts to leave. “Nothing happened. Nothing EVER happens here,” she snaps, pushing past you, “Now if you're going to hang around, at least make yourself useful and help me round up the team. It's time for our daily meeting.”

Speechless, numb with dismay, you follow Ava as she prowls through the empty BLUE EYE dorm, her expression growing more and more uneasy as the minutes creep by. Finally, as she's storming back towards the gym, you find your tongue. “They're not here, Ava,” you breathe, “That's what I was trying to tell you, they...”

“They've got to be here somewhere!” she snarls, marching through the next doorway. You follow her, looking down in alarm as you feel sand crunching under your feet. You're here again, by Mia's beach. Whirling around, you see the squat concrete bunker of the BLUE EYE dorm placed incongruously in the middle of the sand. “That's impossible!” Ava whispers, her pace slowing as she casts an unbelieving eye around, “What... what is this place?”

“I guess you could call it the collective unconscious,” you reply slowly, “Or something like that. We're conscious of it, so it can't really be... Well, anyway. It's a world shaped by human thoughts, human memories. This must be one of Mia's memories. We came here, when... do you remember what happened now?”

With a tentative hand, Ava touches her brow. “I'm starting to,” she admits slowly.

She makes it sound like a terrible thing.

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>>4044478
As a running theory on how all this works together.
I think that inherited the personality of the clone, is a mix of all of the people that contributed genetic materiel to the clone's template, that gets stitched together into a more cohesive narrative. After all in order to pilot a Unit they would need a higher ratio than the population, and since we know that 'Genes' are what dictates a person's ratio that they stitch together the template that the clone usesThe formation of the Template also happens to be the only part of the process we haven't seen, , and that pulls the fragments it from the Dirac sea, or something. it also would explain how 'straight' clones inherit memories of the dead, since after a long enough period the Clone would have imprinted "their" memories on the Dirac sea as a new person and stabilize their genomic memory.
That's why the Blue Eye team had their stutter that the Clones had when we first met them, it's also why the original Juliet didn't have it when we met her.
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>>4044534
I wonder if some of the prerequisites is to actually know you're a clone and the memories are fake like the Juliets have done. Once you've gone through that trauma and established it you stop chasing that fake imprinting and start becoming your own person.
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>>4044540
Do you think we should tell Ava, now while we have the chance?
Or should we see if we can leverage the rest of the Blue Eye team, if they were to return that they would forever be missing their leader and that running away isn't the right thing to do.
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>>4044516

Stumbling like a drunkard, Ava approaches the shoreline as the waves grow more and more violent. When she splashes into the water without a care, you realise that she's not about to stop. Hurrying after her, you reach out to grab her hand before she lets the waters take her completely. You reach her, your hand closing around her wrist, but a second too late – she's already falling forwards, dragging you down with her. Cold water explodes around you as you both crash into the ocean, sinking as if you're wearing lead weights. As you sink deeper and deeper, images swirl around you.

A girl sprawled out on a sofa, listlessly flipping the pages of her magazine. She's April, but not quite – she's taller, with a rounder face and docile expression.

A girl playing with a group of her fellow orphans. She's Fiona, but not quite – her hair isn't nearly as red, her expression more muted.

A girl watering plants in a lush greenhouse, humming softly to herself. She's Evelyn, but not quite – her eyes are darker, with a dull sheen to them.

A girl leaning against a dusty hotel bar, tossing a rag from one hand to the other. She's Mia, but not quite – she's older, with a knowing look on her face.

A girl hurriedly flipping burgers on a grill, sweating from the heat of the kitchen. She's Emma, but not quite – she's fatter, with a light dusting of acne across her cheeks.

A girl smacking her classmate across the back of the head with a cafeteria tray. She's not Ava – she's you.

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Gasping, you lurch out of the water and gulp down lungfuls of fresh air. Blindly dragging Ava back to the shore, you collapse down to the sand and wait for your racing heart to slow down. Beside you, Ava stares mutely up towards the sky. It takes her a long time, but she finally manages to speak.

“Those were...” she whispers, “Was any of it real? Were we ever... real?”

Lying in the sand, you feel Ava grow distant. There's a gap forming between you – just a sliver, now, but it could easily grow into a chasm. Slowly, steadily, she's slipping away. You need to do something, but...

>You... (Write in)
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>>4044576
>You... (Write in)
Grab her, or something.
"You wouldn't believe me, but I've already done this before. Yes, you're real. Do you see me? Do you remember me? Who's memory and perspective is this, if not yours? There are other memories you have, and you can have them, too. I have memories of other people, I can tell I'm not them, and it is confusing."

Disclaimer:
it's kinda hard for me to disentangle what should our character believe from what I personally believe about being a 'self' and what it means to have an internal, first-person perspective.
As a person, I don't believe there should be any difference between a clone and someone else. From lore standpoint, I don't think there was enough established lore that we could run with a theory like >>4044540 or something like Dirac Sea as a memory bank in >>4044534.
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>>4044576
>“Was any of it real? Were we ever... real?”
Tell her to remember what we told her back after we fought.
>“In here, there might be a time when someone tells you... that you're not real, that you don't count. I'm telling you, here and now, that's bullshit. You're as real as I am, and you proved that to me today. Remember that, will you? I'm ordering you to remember that.”

That memory sure as hell is real. The time Ava spent with all the other BLUE EYES and with us is real. Everything she experienced then and will experience is worth living for. These people might have been created on false memories, but that doesn’t make them fake. Juliet and Julia are undeniable proof of that.
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>>4044576
>You... (Write in)
"You remember what I told you the first time we met? You ARE real. You all are. Don't let yourself or anyone else tell you differently. We may have been brought into this world differently, but that doesn't make your heart, thoughts, and mind any less real than everyone else. You were fed a lie by horrible people, but your devotion to your team, the companionship, that was all true. That's *yours*. No one can take that away from you."

And yeah put our arm around her should her and hold her close.
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>>4044576
>You... (Write in)
We need to impress that every thing she has done and felt was real, she did it, not us. if she want's to talk to someone about it she should talk to Julia and Juliet since they know what it's like firsthand, although in order to do that she's going to need to come back with us. And to not spring this on Johanna, leave that to Bergmann since she doesn't know yet. if she still doesn't want to return We should also hit her, with the fact that when the others return no one is going to be there for them when they need some one if she isn't.

If we both make it out of this we should at least attempt top put things into perspective for her by explaining what has happened to us, all the trauma: Lilian, Circle Eleven, Metatron, Blue Eye, what happened to Wilson, Huang, Konstantine, Reed, Coraline and Nate. and all the other little things along the way.

>>4044601
Based on what we have seen, the only one that can bring Ava back is herself, in order for this to succeed she needs to find something to hold onto, something to live for. Once she finds that we can do the rest.
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>>4044627
This makes sense to me, thanks.
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>>4044576
Your first memories may be someone else's but YOU are real, AS real as Juliet and Julia, as real as me. The question is not are you real, but are you going to fight for your right to remember your friends, To sstruggle against trial and Travails, to LIVE. Doctor Brahms said you deserved better, and while I think he can be a sanctimonious prick, he was not wrong. Are you going to try and GET better, or fall apart Ava?
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The chasm seems to yawn wide, wider and wider with every second that passes. Dark confusion rises up from the depths, rising up to choke you like a lump in your throat. Real? Fake? The dividing line seems to have grown blurry with time. The BLUE EYE team, stitched together from scavenged scraps of memory. Juliet and Julia, who passed through their own despair and emerged, somehow, as complete human beings. Johanna, who remains blissfully ignorant of all that. Among them, who is real and who is not?

What about you? Are you-

Like a drowning girl grabbing for a lifeline, you grab at Ava's hand and squeeze it tightly. “You remember what I told you, don't you?” you insist, “We fought, and I told you that you were real – as real as I am now. You remember that, don't you?”

The beach blurs and shimmers around you, replaced by the gym and two smoky silhouettes. You hear your own words echoing back from the past – this memory that you both share. “In here, there might be a time when someone tells you... that you're not real, that you don't count. I'm telling you, here and now, that's bullshit,” you hear yourself say, “You're as real as I am, and you proved that to me today. Remember that, will you? I'm ordering you to remember that.”

“You DO remember!” you insist, “We might have been brought into this world by different means, but we share this memory – this little bit of the real world. You were fed a lie by horrible people, but that doesn't matter now. What matters is your devotion to your team, your companionship. That's real, and they can never take that away from you. Every moment you shared with them, every training session and every meal you ate together. Every moment, the good times and the bad, they WERE real!”

“How can they be?” Ava breathes, her eyes wide with an undisguised fear, “They were all built on... on nothing!”

“But you made them into something real. Don't you understand? The past, those memories, they're not what defined you – you took those memories, and you made something out of them. You can make yourself real, if you have the courage to do it,” you promise, clinging even tighter to her hand, “Life can be hard. I know that better than most people. It hurts, it's scary, and sometimes I want it all to go away, but I know it's REAL. What you're feeling right now, that's real too!”

“But if you're... if that's right...” Ava's face goes blank with horror, the memories of battle flooding back in full, horrible force, “My team, my friends, are...”

And the chasm, at last, opens up to swallow you both whole. There is a brief sense of falling, plunging into some vast hollow, before the world closes up around you. Claustrophobia, the reality of the test plug weighing down on you. You're back in the real world, back in the cramped test plug.

But you're not alone.

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>>4044678
>What about you? Are you-
Yeah, no, totally real.
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>>4044678

The test plug opens with a pneumatic hiss and you collapse out, dragging Ava with you. Bergmann jolts around in surprise, her eye widening with disbelief. Almost as confused as she is, you look around at the test plug you just emerged from. Torn strands of yellow warning tape flap like tattered flags. The second test plug – YOUR test plug – stands unopened a short distance away. “I was...” you stammer, pointing at the sealed plug before waving your hand at Ava's plug, “But now I'm...”

“Holly,” Bergmann manages, “I don't want to alarm you, but-”

A thin yelp escapes your lips as you notice your bare arm. Your bare... everything. With a belated hiss, the second entry plug opens up to reveal, floating in the LCL, your recently vacated plugsuit.

“Well then,” Bergmann remarks dryly as you grab for your shirt, “I suppose it's a good thing that Quentin decided to sit this one out. Then again, you're not really his type.”

-

Ava can't stop looking at herself, stretching her arm out and spreading her fingers wide as if getting used to the feel of her own skin. You watch her carefully, trying to ignore the sound of Bergmann scrawling down page after page of notes. Kaori was able to fetch some spare clothes from the dorm, so you're able to think things over without worrying about your dignity. That's the theory, at least – you're still struggling to process it all.

“I realised something,” Ava muses, “What you said back there, about the time I spent with my team. I realised that all those moments would be lost if I vanished. Losing them was bad enough, but the thought of them vanishing without a trace... it was too much to bear. I think that's what brought me back.”

“We all need something to hold onto,” Bergmann announces, “It doesn't have to be something nice. Rage, spite, grief... they all bind us to this world, just as much as love or duty.” Setting aside her notes, the doctor approaches Ava and starts to examine her. Taking the girl's chin in her hands, she turns Ava's head this way and that as if searching for ever the slightest imperfection. “You'll need to get a full examination. The infirmary,” she muses, “Holly. You can take her.”

“Uh, I guess I can,” you agree, “But, uh, I really need to ask. How did I-”

“You lost physical form, then reformed in the other plug,” Bergmann interrupts, answering the question before you can even ask it, “I was monitoring you the whole time. Fascinating really. Quite the party trick.”

“Right, yeah,” you reply vaguely, “Except for the whole nakedness part.”

“That would depend on what kind of party we're talking about,” Bergmann remarks, “The infirmary. Now, please.”

“Talk about demanding,” Ava mutters, “Is she always like this?”

“No,” you murmur back, “She's not normally this polite.”

Bergmann, turning back to her notes, pointedly pretends not to hear you.

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We should make sure that Claire is in our head still, since i find it unlikely that we got all this for free, there has to be a catch somewhere.
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>>4044797
Best way to have this backfire is to slow down and consider the implications of such a teleportation. Did the previous Holly die, for example? Is the new one the same or different? You know, the standard stuff. Guaranteed headache for years.
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>>4044787

Halfway to the infirmary, Ava stops you with a touch to the arm. “Reynolds, wait,” she begins, searching for the right words. It takes her a long time to force her errant thoughts into words, but you wait. You're not in any hurry. “I'm going to make the most of this,” she continues eventually, “I'm not going to spend my entire life mourning. I won't forget my team, but I can't build my entire life around them. It doesn't matter what your doctor friend says, people can't live like that. I need something else.”

“Something else,” you repeat, “Got any ideas?”

“Not at all,” she replies with an unconcerned shrug, “But I'll find something. I've got the chance to find something, because of you. So, what I really wanted to say was...” Trailing off here, she gives you a vague gesture.

“It's okay,” you assure her, “You're welcome.”

>Ego increased by 5
>Current Ego: 57/70

“There's just one thing, though,” you add, holding up a warning finger, “One little thing you should know.”

“Okay?” Ava answers, “What?”

“Bergmann,” you conclude, “She's not MY friend.”

Ava, reading something terrible in your expression, nods gravely. Without anything needing to be said, she understands.

>So I think I'll need to pass out now, but I'll be aiming to continue this tomorrow. Sunday is a maybe this week, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it
>Thank you for your contributions today!
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>>4044841
Thanks for the run
Looks like we have a lot of things to catch Ava up on.

Also shouldn't Max Ego be 90 thanks to Juliet's newest trait or is it only during combat?.
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>>4044841
Thanks for running!

Would it be proper to maybe make graves for BLUE EYE? Nate too potentially. And maybe Coraline too next to Reed's grave. Or some XCOM style memorial wall might be better?
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>>4044841
Thanks for running! When are we going to leverage this power for teleportation technology?
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>>4044841
Thanks for running.

Would you feel embarrassed if someone else had your memories? Like Nate/Holly, Ava/Holly do.
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>>4044841
Wait, why are we burying Blue Eye already?
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>>4045973
They are probably 'gone', gone. With Ava we had her LCL already contained in a pod and acted on it minutes after her collapse.

The rest of BLUE EYE had been a victim of a Lilim parasite for days and disintegrated after the parasite's death all in a pocket dimension of the Dirac Sea that collapsed. If Ava's revival was a long shot then the rest of the team coming back would be miracle x1000
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>>4046040
So Moloch pretty much sacrificed them for cheap drama
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>>4046061
No be sacrificed them because resident dickass Lilim Adrian/Amon decides to screw with them. Possibly as a way to resurrect himself when his kinda sorta daughter surrogate killed him.
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>>4046040
We could see if Temple would be willing to try and re-clone them, with Ava's permission. It probably won't work though since their souls would likely be in Lilith's hands now, 'Gusyson' took them all with it when it died.
If they weren't there at all Ava wouldn't have been able to get Unit 05 to stop in the way she did during the fight, so they may eventually be brought back if we go with Bergmann's plan, via Soul osmosis or something.
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>>4046186
You're saying it like Amon wasn't controlled by Moloch.
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>>4046223
But if developed characters like Amon were a big part of it then it's more like expensive drama, isn't it?
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>>4046225
Amon wasn't actually a big part of it. More like a tacked-on justification. It doesn't add to the plot, it doesn't add to characterization, it's just a sucker punch.
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>>4046222
>their souls would likely be in Lilith's hands now, 'Gusyson' took them all with it when it died
Why do you think so?
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>>4046061
No, not really.

>>4046226
Seems extremely narrow-sighted of you to say that
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>>4046229
Please elaborate.
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>>4046227
Lilith can revive dead Lilium, it's the entire reason why she can't be left in stasis and 'needs' to die, since if she got free all of this work would be undone rapidly, and there is no guarantee that NERV would still be around and ready to go for round two if they need to. I would think the Lilith must maintain continuity of self, between death and rebirth of her children, since I doubt that Amon would be able to hold the opinions that he did of Lilith if she could just remake him to make him more obedient if she wanted.
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>>4046234
...did you reply to the wrong post?
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>>4046237
No, you asked why i think that Lilith has Blue Eye's souls, and that they might be brought back if we go with Bergmann's plan.
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>>4046238
Then I don't understand how your response answers my question. You probably hold some assumption that I don't.
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So now that things have settled down for the time being, what cool story are we going to tell Clay about how we got our eyepatch?
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>>4046242
Ok, I'll break this down a little more then.
So during the fight Ava get's Unit 05 to stop attacking Unit 02 by appealing to Emma to stop, the Unit.
This happens >>4035505
Therefore even with Gusyon in control of the Unit, the imprint of the Pilot is in there somewhere, otherwise Ava's call to action would have had no effect on the Unit.


At the moment of it's death there was an active link Between Gusyon and each of the Unit's under its control, otherwise they wouldn't have decayed in such a way, where Unit 05-2 did not, after Gusyon got pulled from inside it.
This happens here.>>4035533


The Soul of the Lilium must return to Lilith after it's death, otherwise how would it able to be reborn, the process must require is soul because otherwise there would be nothing stopping her from creating an unlimited number of Clones and overwhelming Adam and his Children, though weight of numbers.
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>>4046249
The Truth about how we got it.
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>>4046252
Thanks, that clears it up.
You're assuming that since Gusoyn was in control of the Blue Eye units, their souls were subsumed by it. I don't see a reason to think it's like that though. Remember, Gusoyn had momentarily controlled us too, but our soul was still ours.
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>>4046256
There is at least a degree of separation involved between the two cases though, Mia was acting as the Intermediary for the Intrusion attempt to form the connection, where Gusoyn had a direct connection to the puppeted units via the cables running between The individual Units and what was left of Unit 05-2
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>>4046260
Still, it puppeted the units. This doesn't mean it ate the souls too.
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>>4046261
It didn't leave the contact plugs or any LCL behind, so it probably did.
If it did we wouldn't have been able to recover them immediately, or possibly at all though since the pocket we were in was collapsing. though it would have left something behind like Reed did.
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Standard question with teleportation:

What happens if Holly does it while pregnant?
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You sit at the far side of the room, your eyes fixed on the hospital bed opposite you. Sitting rigidly upright in bed, Karina stares with eyes that are glazed and lifeless. Watching her, you find yourself hoping desperately for even the slightest hint of movement – the slight rise and fall of her shoulders that might accompany a breath would be enough. Yet, she remains motionless and you remain unable to speak. Even when the colours start to drain away from her, you can't bring yourself to cry out.

A dark line forms, running vertically down Karina's face from hairline to chin. It widens, the girl's flesh tearing silently open and falling away. No blood, but that doesn't make things much better. The hollow flesh peels away to reveal a new body, radiant with an unearthly beauty. Slender and clean limbed, pale white and glistening with amniotic fluids, this new creation still holds traces of the girl that birthed it. This is Karina as she could have been, Karina without any kind of degrading, withering illness.

Writhing free from the fleshy prison, the creature crawls from her bed and begins her slow approach. Every instinct you have cries out for you to get away, to escape before that thing can reach you, but you can't move. All you can do is sit and watch as the creature creeps, like a spider, towards you. She moves with unhurried grace, stretching her limbs out as if savouring the act of movement. Or, perhaps, savouring your dread.

When her hand falls on your knee, you nearly faint. That, at least, would have been a mercy – the mercy of oblivion. Instead, you're left to tremble as she pulls herself up and presses her naked body against you. Soft breath puffs against your ear as she leans in close, sickeningly close.

“Don't worry,” she breathes, in a tone that is far more mature, more sensual, than anything ever heard from Karina's lips, “It's only a dream, after all.”

-

You wake with a jolt, sitting up in bed and looking around in a daze. This room, your room, feels unfamiliar after spending so long travelling. Shuddering a little at the memory of your dream, you throw back the blankets and wander into the main dorm room. Ava lies on the sofa, dozing softly as the TV plays muted news on an endless cycle. You watch without much interest – nothing “new” on the news these days, or so it seems.

“I know what you're thinking,” Claire muses, appearing by your side and leaning over Ava, “You're wondering what the catch is gonna be. Because there's always a catch, right?”

“Right,” you agree, “Like she might melt away at any minute.”

“Because we're not allowed nice things,” she sighs, “Well, I guess we'll worry about that later. Doesn't look like she's going anywhere in the immediate future. Can't be certain, though. These days, nothing is.”

Very nice. Very... optimistic.

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>>4046480

You linger for a moment more, looking away from Ava to watch the silent news. Sometimes it's hard to remember that there's a world outside of NERV. Baseball scores scroll across the screen, soon followed by a story about the British royal family. Always pretty weird, that. You're never quite sure how serious they are about it, the British. You'll have to ask Claudia about it one day, if you can remember. Then again, you're not sure how serious she'll be about it either.

“I wonder if she dreams,” Claire muses, peering down at Ava, “Dreams are pretty important, you know? It's that whole collective unconscious thing again. We don't notice everything that goes on around us. We can't. There's just way too much information to take it all in. But when we dream...”

“I dreamed of Karina last night,” you mention, perhaps unnecessarily, “Was that some information I didn't notice?”

“Or something you're afraid of, something you thought up all by yourself. Sometimes a dream IS just a dream,” she replies casually, leaning forwards and brushing a lock of Ava's hair away from the sleeping girl's face, “There's something else, though. Something you've forgotten. It's Bergmann, you know? That awful weapon of hers.”

The Saturnalia Engine. Or, you recall, the Organ. She wasn't quite sure about that one, and neither are you. “She said she was connecting it up to Unit 02...” you think aloud, frowning as you think back to before the last battle, “She said she was just following orders. For the first time in her life, Brahms said. I can believe that, but-”

“Just following orders, huh?” Claire breathes, her eyes widening with ironic amusement, “Wowee. That sure is a helpful excuse. Gets you out of anything, that.”

“If you've got something to say, just say it!” you hiss, looking sharply around – but she's already gone, and you find yourself staring at empty air. Ava stirs slightly on the sofa, mumbling something in her sleep, and you hastily retreat into the kitchen. Popping open a can of soda, you lean back against the counter and take a long sip as you think. It's not something you particularly WANT to think about, but...

>Commander Monroe gives the orders around here, so..
>Brahms seems to know something about this. Maybe you'll have a word
>This is Bergmann's project. She has to have the answers
>You need a distraction. Anything will do, so... (Write in)
>Other

>>4046288
>Let's just say it would be a pretty bad idea and leave it at that
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>>4046481
>Commander Monroe gives the orders around here, so.

If she doesn't know, take it to Fletcher, then Mac.
If none of them know, Shoot Bergmann.
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>>4046481
>Brahms seems to know something about this. Maybe you'll have a word
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>>4046222
>We could see if Temple would be willing to try and re-clone them.

Nah. It wouldn't be them. Also I've got half a mind to tell Elrow to shut that down. Imprinting sentience with fake pasts is a nasty business.
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>>4046487
The Advantage of going to Monroe over, Brahms is getting more people involved, that could feasibly delay the order and so if people are doing things under the table, when we go off half cocked it won't be without reason and so they won't be as surprised by it. Though going to Brahms would absolutely get us the info we needed, it's probably a better idea to circle the wagons first.
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>>4046496
There would be one last test i would like to see done, see what happens if they create and imprint, a clone of Willson, Knowing that if we needed to we could bring someone back from death would be a good idea.
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>>4046481
>>Commander Monroe gives the orders around here, so..
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“So what now, huh?” you murmur, waiting to see if Claire is going to offer some helpful advice. Of course, you're out of luck on that front. You're going to have to make this call on your own. Crunching the empty soda can and dropping it in the trash, you glance aside at the clock before marching out of the dorm. It's either very late or very early, depending on how you look at it – the small hours of the morning. It might be better to leave this until morning, but you're not going to sleep now. It's either this, or tossing and turning until morning comes.

And you hate tossing and turning.

The base feels strange at this hour, both sleepy and alert at the same impossible moment. The corridors are almost completely empty, and the few staff you do see hurry past without stopping. They've all got important business to handle, you assume. If not, they'd be tucked up in bed like sensible people.

You're not sure why you choose to check in on Brahms first. Maybe because he's been working closely with Bergmann, maybe because he's so deliberately apolitical – he's not likely to twist the answer, whatever it is, to suit his own agenda. He'll be able to tell you where these “orders” came from, although you've got a pretty good idea of that already. Monroe is the one giving orders around here... but did she get HER orders from higher up, or-

“Stop it,” you whisper, stopping yourself before you can venture too far into speculation.

-

There's music playing, the sort of jaunty music that you've come to associate with Monroe. Lingering outside her office for a moment more, you listen as the last notes fade away. Voices next, overlaid with a crackle of static. Radio voices, an offensively cheerful host introducing the next song on before throwing in a quick sales pitch. Something so totally normal that it seems surreal down in the depths of HQ.

Enough stalling. Pushing into the office, you pause as you see Monroe sleeping in her chair. Paperwork litters her desk, while the radio rattles on beside her. Trusting the music to cover the sound of your approach, you steal closer to the desk and peer down at some of the papers. Most of them seem innocent enough, logistical orders for new supplies, but then you spot a familiar image – a diagram of the Saturnalia Engine, annotated in a thin and spidery script. You hastily draw your hand back as Monroe stirs, her eyes fluttering open.

“Mm, Holly?” she mumbles, blinking in confusion, “Shouldn't you be in bed?”

“Shouldn't you?” you counter, “You'll get back problems, sleeping in your chair like that.”

“Hey, only old people have to worry about back problems!” Monroe insists, rubbing her eyes, “And I'm not... well, ah, never mind that now. Why are you here? Is there something the matter?”

“There might be,” you concede, pointing to the diagram of the Saturnalia Engine, “That, for one.”

“Ah,” Monroe's face falls, “That.”

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>>4046543
This is our "Get in the fucking robot Shinji" moment only it's "Use the fucking Engine Holly".
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>>4046552
If we decided to walk away, there is literally nothing that they could do that wouldn't harm their chances in the fight.

honestly I don't see why they couldn't wait until after Lilith was in stasis to install the Engine, unless they are assuming that they are all going to be LCL by the the time that it happens.
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>>4046556
There is no reason not to install it now either. In fact it's better to do it sooner rather than later in case of any surprises. Whoever ordered this is 100% in the right.
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>>4046560
Bergmann has yet to prove that it is the only way to kill Lilith.

Adam had to have had a way to do so,so if we put Lilith in stasis then woke Adam up he would probably do it for us, no Engine required.
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>>4046563
Adam waking up also kills humanity.
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>>4046564
If Lilith reaches the real, they are dead anyway, so it won't make much a difference, Also Bergmann's plan might be able to revive humanity afterwards if Adam woke up.

How is Bergmann planning to deal with Adam then, just hope he never wakes up or something.
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>>4046563
>Bergmann has yet to prove that it is the only way to kill Lilith.

Also who cares? I'm not going to let Nate die for nothing. Listen if we could have prevented this, if we had known, I'd be right there with you stopping it. But what done is done and disregarding the only known tool to save the people we care about out of spite is retarded. Nate wouldn't want us to give up like that for her sake.

>>4046571
>How is Bergmann planning to deal with Adam then, just hope he never wakes up or something.

No idea
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>>4046578
We manged to bring Ava back from being LCL, so we might be able to reverse the process, obviously at a much greater cost.
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>>4046578
Also,Bergmann has yet to prove that it is the only way to kill Lilith, or why keeping her in stasis is not a viable method of permanent containment, if it works for Adam why won't it work for her.
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>>4046582
Here are two scenarios.

1. We kill Lilith before she emerges we can potentially dismantle the engine afterwards to see if there is anything of Nate left in there to bring back.

2. We kill Lilith after she emerged, we enact Bergmann's plan and also dump the Engine in the humanity sea and hope Nate comes back.

I feel like that's the most we can do in the regard.
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>>4046587
Because there is no reason to do that other than 'BERGMANN BAD, ME NO USE ENGINE'. Fuck the noise. Fuck your spite, lets kill Lilith now instead of putting it off and risking any number of problems to find an option that doesn't offend your sensibilities.
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>>4046592

So why isn't the first step of her plan get Lilith into stasis, then she can take as much time as she needs to exhaustively research alternate methods, right now it seems like the only reason she needs us to rush is so that the other part of her plan actually occurs, Have Lilith Bleed into the ocean of LCL that is what remains of humanity, forcibly making them into At wizards.

My biggest problem, is that the only source of information on this is Bergmann, or people that heave read her work, and the only proof she has is because she said it was so, she won't actually she has shown time and time again that she doesn't care about anything other than achieving her goal.
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>>4046611
Because Matheson, Bergmann, and Konstantin all divided and plotted against each other. If they had worked together I imagine we would have had a much neater scenario than we do right now, maybe similar to what you're suggesting. Most of our problems stem from those three idiots acting like children and breaking everything before we got onto the scene.
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>>4046617
And so we should we reward this kind of behavior, and condemning even more people to a death that they do not deserve.
I would assume that the main cause of death is going to be similar to what we experienced during Circle Eleven.

The best outcome we can have is where all 3 of the plans fail, if we need to frustrate them by force if we need to.
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>>4046625
>And so we should we reward this kind of behavior
>The best outcome we can have is where all 3 of the plans fail

It's not about who '''wins'''. It's the hand we are dealt. Flipping the table doesn't do anything either except put more people at risk. Stopping the apocalypse takes priority, not whose plan saved the day. That's petty.
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>>4046633
The other thing to consider about the Engine, is if we were to decide to stop after putting her into stasis, would we be able to we may have to fight Nate's latent influence, and since Nate's AT Field has been empowered, especially after putting Lilith into stasis, we wouldn't win that fight, and if we happened to be in the Real not the Dirac sea at the time, Bergmann's plan would be complete.
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>>4046649
This is just conjecture and assumptions at this point. Also I'm advocating to just kill her out right, not put her into stasis.

Anyways we should probably stop. We are probably irritating Moloch.
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>>4046656
I just want us to consider all of the options available before we commit to a course of action.

If it gets picked I'll back it sure, i just don't like being rushed.
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>>4046543

You wait a moment, just to see if Monroe will explain herself without prompting. She doesn't. Instead, she rummages through her drawer and emerges with a can of coffee. She drinks deeply, stalling for time as much as she's seeking the caffeine. “Bergmann said she installed that thing in Unit 02,” you point out eventually, growing tired with her silence, “She said she was just following orders. So I'm wondering, who gave her the orders?”

“Well...” Monroe hesitates, “I did. But you didn't need me to tell you that, did you?”

“No,” you agree, pausing for a few long seconds before adding, “Was Elrow leaning on you? Did he order this?”

Narrowing her eyes, Monroe studies her can of coffee as if it was some ancient and priceless treasure. “No,” she answers eventually, “They were my orders. I told Ingrid to install the Engine.” Setting the can aside, Monroe sits up straight and forces herself to meet your gaze. You keep expecting the anger to come, the sense of betrayal, but you're just left with a glum feeling of resignation. “I don't know how this is going to end, whether we'll be able to pacify Lilith or if Ingrid's weapon really can kill her. There's so much that we don't know about all of this,” she continues at last, “So we need to keep our options open. If you descend to Lilith only for these control rods to fail, you'd be defenceless.”

“Yeah, but...” you protest, “Do you know HOW Bergmann made that fucking thing?”

“Yes, I do,” Monroe answers calmly, “Ingrid explained everything. I don't approve of what she's done – in fact, I don't think I'll ever be able to forgive her for it – but I have a duty to look at the bigger picture. Even putting that aside, I don't want... I don't want Nate's sacrifice to go to waste. I don't want this to have been for nothing.”

You say nothing, sinking down into the chair opposite Monroe's desk. She's not saying anything new, of course, anything you haven't already considered before, but... but it's a bitter pill to swallow.

“I hate thinking like this,” Monroe adds, her brow furrowing, “I worry that this is just the first step down a very bad road. Men like Leighton – hell, even like Elrow himself – must have thought like this. Justifying things to themselves, making grand promises of all the good they'll do. Real “end justifies the means” stuff. I don't want to end up like them, but... we can't fail now. If that means using the Saturnalia Engine, we have to use it.”

>No, we don't. We can't lower ourselves to this
>We have to use it. I hate it, but we don't have a choice
>Do what you have to do, commander. I'll follow your orders
>I... (Write in)
>Other

>Sorry for the long delays today. I feel pretty sick at the moment, and it's kinda dragging me down
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>>4046691
>No, we don't. We can't lower ourselves to this
If the control rods were to liable to fail, Kontantine and Matheson's would have come up with a different method, to account for that.

If she goes ahead and has the engine installed, we should leave.
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>>4046691
>We have to use it. I hate it, but we don't have a choice
"Nate wouldn't let me hear the end of it if I stopped because of her."
>Other
"But Commander? After this is over, after Lilith is dead or otherwise, NERV and SEELE need to die. Retire. If we want to build a better world after this it cannot be helmed by organizations that is littered by the corpses of children and human sacrifice. It needs to end."
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>>4046691
>We have to use it. I hate it, but we don't have a choice
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Ok so, If we are having the Engine installed, we should aim to stun Lilith with the Control rod first, before killing her if possible, since we should be able to drag her back into the Dirac sea if she gets past us, and it is much easier to kill a stunned target, than a live one, and we don't give Bergmann what she wants.
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>>4046722
That's the idea, yeah. Co pilot stuns with the rod and Holly seals the deal, preferably before Lilith emerges from the Sea
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>>4046727
It doesn't make any sense if we don't bring everyone we can to the fight, since if we fail the repercussion wont matter.
I just have a subtle feeling that whatever is left of Nate is going to fight us on this, and we're not going to win that fight.
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“We have to use it,” you repeat, nodding to yourself, “I hate that it's come to this, but we don't have a choice.”

“No. We always have a choice,” Monroe counters, “But there are thousands, millions, of lives riding on the choices we make. That's why we can't fail, even if it means dirtying our hands.” She reaches over and picks up her empty coffee can, toying with it just so she has something to do with her nervous, restless hands. “We're getting some of the control rods delivered soon. We can take a closer look at them then. They're still my first choice,” she continues, “I know they won't last forever, but they'll buy us time. So long as Lilith is kept passive, we can take the time to consider our options.”

Your options. That's a pretty fucking narrow list.

“Maybe they won't work at all. Maybe Lilith is more powerful than we anticipated, and the control rods aren't able to pacify her. Maybe they just flat out don't work, through some fundamental flaw or... whatever. If that's the case, we have a plan B,” Monroe continues, sounding more and more like she's trying to convince herself, “Killing Lilith once and for all, though... I wonder what might happen. To us, I mean. We'd be out of a job.”

“Good,” you state bluntly, meeting her eyes, “That's the way it should be. When this is over, NERV needs to end. SEELE too. We can build a better world, but we can't built it on human sacrifice. If that means finding a new job... well, I guess I can always go back to the family farm.”

“Hey, that's not such a bad idea. When you're a millionaire, you'll remember your old friends, won't you?” Monroe jokes, forcing a smile, “I know a few people here who wouldn't let you forget!” When she realises that you're not about to laugh at her joke, she sighs. “I know, I know,” she murmurs, “I'll give Ingrid the green light tomorrow. I don't know how long this could take – maybe she just needs to flip a switch and that's it, maybe there's something more. Either way, I don't want Unit 02 kept out of action for any longer than it needs to. There's one other thing, while you're here.”

“There's always one other thing,” you point out, “Usually more than one, now that I think about it.”

“True. This time, at least, it's just one. Er, just one thing that I can think of,” she hesitates, “Could you go and check on Karina tomorrow? I mean, um, later today. In the morning. She's been so listless lately, even Cam can't seem to get her to perk up. I'm sure she'd enjoy it if you paid her a visit.”

The tear running down her body. The bloodless, hollow halves of her flesh. That radiant, unearthly thing that crawled out from her skin.

“I'll stop by,” you promise, forcing down the unpleasant memories, “I'll make sure she's feeling okay.”

[1/?]
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>>4046816
We still don't have a way to save Karina from shutting down after all this. Tumbling down, etc
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>>4046851
If we don't kill Lilith She won't go into the Coma.
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>>4046851
Both nate and karina have had some extreme adam experiences. Maybe if we slosh them together we'll have enough for one person
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>>4046883
Not sure it works like that. Hmm. We did make contact with Adam. Maybe we can convince him to spare Karina when he peaces out.
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>>4046705
>If we want to build a better world
I'm afraid this way of thinking inevitably leads us to NIHIL's doctrine. You can't change humanity at large, the entire history of it is sacrificed children and powers that answer to no one. So far Holly has been fighting for retaining the status quo. When NERV is gone, another organization will immediately pop up and continue doing the same things for the 'greater good'.
From idealistic standpoint, all of Holly's options suck. There's no neat resolution to this situation. Trying to stick to the guns is not just pettiness, so I don't think the option of using Saturnalia should be treated lightly. It also proves SEELE right, because even before the push came to shove, Holly changed her mind about using the sacrifice. I think that should be acknowledged not only by Monroe.
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>>4046952
SEELE is only right in the most trite sense. The fact of the matter is that they cared more about their agendas than actually saving the world or doing anything good. They believed that imposing their ideas on the world was the best way to save it, and were willing to sacrifice others not for humanity as a whole, but so that their vision of humanity would succeed.

Holly is completely different. She acts for people first. She tries to make the most of every good option available before she steps into the dark. SEELE and Bergmann like to make human sacrifice and pointlessly risking human lives Plan A. There is something to be said for the fact that we’re opting to use Nate’s sacrifice when the perpetual control rod option is on the table (if undesirable), but it’s barely on the same path as SEELE. First and foremost, Holly would have never sacrificed Nate herself. She would never have allowed the sacrifice to occur if she was in a position to stop it. This has always been true and always will be true. Consider Huang, or Cam, or even Julia (though we never actually had to take a huge risk to free her.) Holly always puts people first and takes the burden of the greater good onto herself rather than let others bear it for her.
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>>4047009
I'm pretty sure we did have the option to try and influence Nate towards not going, we didn't because she wanted to be useful, and we didn't know what they were going to do to her.
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>>4046816

When you descend to Karina's quarters, it feels like walking right back into your dream. She's sitting up in bed, rigid and oblivious to your presence. Cam gives you a helpless look as you hesitate, her expression pleading for you to do something. Creeping across the room, you brush aside the gauzy curtain surrounding Karina's bed and sit down beside her. Perched on the side of her hospital bed, you reach across and brush aside a long lock of her wavy hair.

Her eyes flick around, the dull sheen lifting for a moment. “Ah,” she sighs, “Holly? I didn't see you come in.”

“You know me,” you reply, giving her a sly grin, “Always sneaking about.”

“I had a dream about you last night,” Karina murmurs, the words seeming to flow from her lips without any thought on her part. Then, as if realising what she just said, she bites off the rest of her words. “Just, ah, just ignore me. I'm saying such silly things lately. I'm just feeling so sleepy!” she continues, “All I want to do is sleep these days. Even when I'm awake, I feel so... sluggish. I've just got no energy at all!”

There aren't many Lilim left, you think to yourself, and now this. Are you going to lose Karina next? You can't bear the thought. Not after everything else that's happened. “Black coffee. Lots of it,” you suggest, forcing a smile, “Or you could start blasting really rowdy music 24 hours a day. I'm sure Cam wouldn't mind, right?”

“I used to like a good rave, back in the day,” Cam offers, with exactly the same kind of phony smile that you must be wearing.

Karina giggles demurely, perhaps trying – failing – to picture that in her head. Her laughter doesn't last, though. “There aren't many left now,” she whispers, turning her face away, “Are there?”

“Two more,” you reply, quickly running the numbers.

“Orcus,” Karina murmurs, nodding slowly, “And Apollyon.”

“Apollyon,” you repeat, “Sounds like a great guy, really just great.” Sighing, shaking your head, you briefly wonder if you should be taking notes here. No point, really. There's not much you can learn from just a name, and the whole place is probably being recorded anyway. Privacy isn't exactly priority number one around here. “Karina,” you ask, “What's going to happen if Lilith dies? I mean seriously dies, if she's totally destroyed. What would Adam do?”

Karina's brow furrows as she thinks. “I suppose, ah, I suppose he'd sleep,” she offers at last, “Father Adam acts in opposition to Mother Lilith. As her power goes, so does his. If she was destroyed, Father Adam might... I don't know. He might enter a permanent stasis. He might cease to exist altogether.”

“And if he did... cease to exist,” you whisper, “What would happen to you?”

Karina gives you a slow, sad smile.

[2/3]
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She knows, We're fucked.

The Christian scriptures contain the first known depiction of Abaddon as an individual entity instead of a place.

A king, the angel of the bottomless pit; whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek Apollyon; in Latin Exterminans.

—Revelation 9:11, Douay-Rheims Bible
In Revelation 9:11, Abaddon is described as "Destroyer",[5] the angel of the abyss,[5] and as the king of a plague of locusts resembling horses with crowned human faces, women's hair, lions' teeth, wings, iron breast-plates, and a tail with a scorpion's stinger that torments for five months anyone who does not have the seal of God on their foreheads.[6]

The symbolism of Revelation 9:11 leaves the identity of Abaddon open to interpretation. Protestant commentator Matthew Henry (1708) believed Abaddon to be the Antichrist,[7] whereas the Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary (1871) and Henry H. Halley (1922) identified the angel as Satan.[8][9]

In contrast, the Methodist publication The Interpreter's Bible states: "Abaddon, however, is an angel not of Satan but of God, performing his work of destruction at God's bidding", citing the context at Revelation chapter 20, verses 1 through 3.[10][page needed] Jehovah's Witnesses also cite Revelation 20:1-3 where the angel having "the key of the abyss" is actually shown to be a representative of God, concluding that "Abaddon" is another name for Jesus after his resurrection


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abaddon
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>>4047024

“That dream of yours,” you suggest at last, breaking the long silence, “Tell me about it.”

“No...” Karina protests, a faint whine in her voice, “It's silly. You would, ah, you would laugh. Besides, I don't remember much of it.” She fidgets awkwardly in place, kneading her bedsheets as she searches for some other excuse to give you. When she comes up empty-handed, she lets out a soft sigh of defeat. “I dreamed that you were here. You came here, and you, ah, you lifted me out of bed,” she explains, in a voice barely above a whisper, “You held me close, and you... you carried me out of this room.”

“Then what?” you tease, “Did we go somewhere nice?”

“I'm sure, ah, I'm sure it was nice. Wherever it was,” she replies, a faint tremble in her voice, “But that's all I remember! Really! See? I told you it was silly. Now you probably think... all kinds of strange things about me.”

You gaze at Karina, gently placing a hand on her arm. She shivers a little at the contact, placing her hand over yours. “Don't worry,” you assure her, “It's only a dream, after all.”

>I think I'm going to close things here. My brain is totally fried today. Current plan is to continue this next Friday, but there's still time for things to change on that front
>I apologise again for the delays today. I should be feeling better by Friday, with a little luck
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>>4047104
Thanks for the run.
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>>4047104
Thanks for running
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>>4047104
A very good girl.

Thanks for running. Hope you feel better.
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>>4047104
What I’m taking from this is that, in the worst case, we could have Karina’s soul ride along in our body if we can’t get her a new one or fix hers somehow.



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