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Welcome everyone!

This quest follows House Boggs, a small Knightly House of Crackclaw Point. We are currently in the 11th Month of the Year 283, at the conclusion of Robert's Rebellion and a little under two months from undertaking a trip to King's Landing to bend the knee. You’re playing as Ser Cormaic Boggs, Knight of the Boggwood. You’re a 19-year-old Knight with an emphasis on unconventional and cunning strategies and the leader of a band of guerilla archers known as the Sparrowhawks. You are the Head of your Household, though your small house holds little power and influence itself.

Last thread, you got married to Atia of Pentos, a magister's daughter with the features of Old Valyria, and welcomed a few others to your growing house and community. You're wrapping up some revenge business in Gulltown now.

House resources and character sheets can be found here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1C1EKKAiDasK3Rgq_UEjGL39i3XkFtbdU

I try to make a point of sending a tweet out when resuming here: https://twitter.com/CormaicB
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>Regret, remorse even, but no repentance

You look into her eyes as they glaze over and feel regret. Sadness. She was obviously an innocent and had nothing to do with those that wronged you. Hopefully she doesn’t have a family that will miss her. You know that’s the mostly likely scenario for a girl pushing around a cart at this hour in this seedy part of town. You wish you had time to properly pay your respects, but it would be foolish to be caught standing over a girl’s corpse in the middle of all of this chaos. You move on to the jetty at the southern end of the district that serves as your rally point, striding purposefully but not running like a guilty man. The rest of your companions will be doing the same, taking different paths to avoid attracting too much attention. You find your way to the jetty easily enough and within half an hour you’re a group of six again. No injuries, no tails. To your annoyance, a good number of the ships have pulled away from port and created a clusterfuck in the bay. You resolve yourself to waiting until daybreak to sort out your return passage and tell everyone to clean their blades by the water. It won’t do to walk around in the morning reeking of blood.

You return to your impromptu campsite to a small fire with your men huddled about it. One of the cheeky bastards snatched a cask of Vale liquor on his way out and before you know it, you’re all settling in to get piss drunk and watch the rising flames. Before things end up getting too out of hand, you consider the men around you. All of them are amongst the best at what they do. Without question, they’re more capable and accomplished than the average knight and thrice as insane. You may be the only knight of your house right now, but you don’t have to be. Why not knight the lot of them right now?

>Knight them
>Don’t
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>>3792361
>>Don’t
Let's wait for a more appropriated moment.
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>>3792361
>>Don’t
Let's knight them after something more honorable.
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>>3792361
>>Don’t
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>>3792361
Could squire them instead
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>>3792401
>>3792414
>>3792419
>>3792421 They are all older than you

Okay, calling for Don't!
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>Don’t

You end up thinking better of it. You’re not even sure if the older ones would even like the idea of being knighted. The truth is, you’re not in the mood to call for them to swear to protect all women and children after what you just did. Instead you all spend the next few hours draining the cask of firewater while shit talking and story swapping. It’s a welcome distraction from the events of the early evening and you feel like your relationship with your men, at least these men, has improved.

You awake the next morning feeling like the dead reborn. Your head feels like you slept on one of your hatchets, you’re close to vomiting, and it’s much too fucking bright out here. The prospect of spending the better part of a day on a ship sounds worse than taking your chances on another night raid, but you're all more likely to wake up worse if you stay an extra day anyway. There really is little else to do for your lot. You do still have some time before you can reasonably expect to book passage on a ship. The question is, how will you spend it?

>Return to the dock area early. You’re very unlikely to be recognized and may get a better picture of how much damage was done
>See if you can get a little shopping done at the market nearby. No flashing coins at armorers or anything crazy, but Esmeralda’s nameday will be upon you shortly after your return. (If so, I could really use some gift ideas)
>Just lay low and do nothing until you can catch a boat
>Other
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>>3792477
>>Just lay low and do nothing until you can catch a boat
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>>3792477
>>Just lay low and do nothing until you can catch a boat
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>>3792477
>>>Just lay low and do nothing until you can catch a boat
Also for the gift perhaps a necklace with a small emerald?
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>>3792477
>>Just lay low and do nothing until you can catch a boat
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>>3792477
>>Just lay low and do nothing until you can catch a boat
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>>3792483
>>3792486
>>3792497
>>3792509
>>3792595
Just lay low and do nothing until you can catch a boat

You decide not to chance too much exploration and stick to finding a ship that will be passing by the Point. It does take some searching due to the relatively small amount of trade done in your part of the world, but you do manage to find a ship that will be swinging by Dye Den before continuing around the Point to Blackwater Bay. You board the ship a little early instead of loitering around prying eyes. You’re sure someone must be looking for culprits or scapegoats after last night. A good chunk of the area is still smoldering and some of the nearby taverns were hit hard, but you can’t see the extent of all of the damage from here.

You make it back to Dyre Den’s port after nightfall with little incident, having spent most of the trip catching up on some much-needed sleep. Your group heads down to the stables, passing some of those ridiculous pikemen Lord Eustace keeps about. You know he has a taste for the exotic, but they seem so impractical for conflicts on the Point. What does he do with them? Stack them all up on the single dirt road to his castle as a big fuck you to warhorses? At least you don’t have to worry about them invading you, even if talks do sour in the coming months. Perhaps Atia and Tyrra will go over well with him. It’s too bad he’s the only eccentric that comes to mind. You’re honestly not sure what will come of your wedding tournament and what, if anything, you are looking to accomplish other than keeping the knives from your back.

(1/2)
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>>3792720
You end up having to wake up a stable boy to unlock the door and grab the mounts you left here. You pay the lad and head on your way, expecting to be back sometime in the morning. You dread this part more than anything. You never stopped to get a gift for Esmeralda or your wife, despite mentioning that possibility before you left. More importantly, you know Atia won’t like what you’ve done. You left to seek some revenge or justice on whichever nobles were involved in the plot against your house and you ended up doing untold damage to the city at large. It goes without saying that many smallfolk had their livelihoods ruined even if they managed to get away from the destruction in time. And you killed an innocent girl with your own hand. Somehow, you feel that will matter to her the most.

But what do you do? So far, you’ve shared everything with her. She knows about Esmeralda’s mother. She knows about your strange experiences. She’s been very open with you about her own past as well. You even came to the realization that you may be in love with her and you have a feeling she feels the same way about you. But you saw the way she was shaking after the close call with the assassin posing as a builder. It’s hard to admit, but you can’t help but feel at least some of her distress was because of how quick you yourself were to turn to violence as an answer. Keeping the worst from her may keep her opinion of you intact, but it could end up making things even worse as well.

>Attempt to keep certain parts of your trip a secret from Atia
>Tell her everything that happened, as you have in the past
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>>3792725
>>Attempt to keep certain parts of your trip a secret from Atia
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>>3792725
>>Attempt to keep certain parts of your trip a secret from Atia
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>>3792725
No secrets tell her everything
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>Tell her everything that happened, as you have in the past
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>>3792725
>Tell her everything that happened, as you have in the past
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>>3792725
>Attempt to keep certain parts of your trip a secret from Atia

>We act distant at first
>wife does not know why.
>But she suspects
>she does a bit of prodding but drops it for now
>gives us space and time to open up
>eventually we tell her bits and pieces
>until she figures out enough to confront us
>when she does, we spill out everything to her in private.
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>>3792725
>>Attempt to keep certain parts of your trip a secret from Atia
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>>3792725
>>Tell her everything that happened, as you have in the past
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Lol, tie vote. I'll keep it open a bit longer then.
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>>3792886
I am fine with switching over. The more I think about it we make pick up Pious and I feel like this would be a good IC way to go towards that way.
Also helps us move in is nice. I want to be able to vote before I knock out. Lol
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>>3792851
I believe this is me. My iP keeps changing I guess cause in on my cell phone. No idea.
We can with hold a little and keep our wife's faith in us for a little more. Something I guess.
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>>3792909
You in an area with overlapping WiFi that you connect to?
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>>3792911
Nah been at work the whole time. Havent connected to the wifi. It's strange, havent moved since the thread started. If I'm not wrong >>3792419
I think that's also me. No idea why all the ip adress changes so suddenly.
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>>3792923
Wtf lol again.
And I was right that post was mine got the (you) lol
I didnt think my IP adress would change that much being in the same place.
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>>3792909
>>3792901
>>3792923
>>3792930
If you want Pious, I feel like it would make more sense to tell her the truth...And stay with your vote.
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>>3792945
I would tell her the truth just not right away.
Doing it slowly over the course of a week or a month would also make her more understanding and give us less flak.

No doghouse treatment from her.

Same with knighting the guys, we will knight some of them later on, just not at a campfire.
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>>3792901
>>3792909
Oh man. Okay then. Calling it here so I can start writing.
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>>3792949
I would personally rather we knight them after a battle or after they did a good job leading the men. Or after a particularly well-fought battle. They've already earned it. But I believe it would mean more to them if we didn't give it to them right after doing something that would be quite the opposite of what a knight should be doing. Leading them all to believe they only earned it due to their dirty work.
Also something like surprises them and do it in front of all of the men in our small army. That way everyone in our small piece of the world knows it and we did it right by them.
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>>3792972
We can change the knight ought to something more suited to serving our house and to us.
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>>3792972
I agree. Knighting men just because we can kind of defeats the purpose. If the men arn't true knights, the prestige effect of having them sworn to us is kind of lost. And seeing as we're swearing to Cersei, I can see plenty of conflict coming up with opportunity to knight some of our boys in sight of the realm and R'hollor
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Can I get 3 rolls of 3d6 for deception?
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Rolled 5, 1, 4 = 10 (3d6)

>>3793085
FOR THE LORD OF LIGHT!!
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Rolled 5, 1, 5 = 11 (3d6)

>>3793085
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Rolled 1, 5, 4 = 10 (3d6)

>>3793085
Remember to spread out the rolls with time.
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Rolled 1, 2, 2 = 5 (3d6)

>>3793085
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>>3793014
Assuming you meant oath here. I found one to work with that doesn't have any thrice-damned Seven references in it that I'm going off of as the oath Cormaic swore by.

A more prestigious event is definitely something I can work with in the future.
>>3793094
>>3793103
>>3793105 Spreding out the rolls matters? I honestly had no idea. That's interesting.

Oof. Looks like I won't even need to bother with the counter rolls. DC was 13.
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>>3793117
>Oof. Looks like I won't even need to bother with the counter rolls. DC was 13.
Was this to decieve our wife?
Because if so
>Choosing a wife skilled in intrigue and diplomacy to shore up our own weaknesses
>Immediately trying to decieve said wife
We deserved to fail this.
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>Attempt to keep certain parts of your trip as secret from Atia

You arrive back to the heart of the Boggwood around midday to find your family and servants rushing out to meet you. The relief is palpable when it’s clear that everyone made it back in one piece. Atia is smiling ear to ear as she quickly wraps you in a warm embrace before dusting off her dress. You hadn’t exactly had time to change from your cloak and traveler’s garb. She looks up to you, searching your face, and her smile falters briefly. She takes a step back as the others crowd around. Your group ends up going their separate ways after some brief pleasantries. Barth and the greybeards are off to do whatever the fuck they do. Aodhan is probably going to freshen up and go to that servant girl he thinks no one knows about.

Your first priority is a nice hot and hearty meal. It’s greatly appreciated after a week of hard breads and dried meats. You catch your mother and Atia up on the basics of what you did, but you make a point to leave out the worst details, especially what you did to the cart girl. Your mother doesn’t seem particularly bothered, but you notice Atia is less cheerful and more distant than you’re used to, especially considering this is the first time you’ve been apart in your six weeks of marriage. You head back upstairs to your chambers to wash away the dirt of your travels.

Atia follows you. She regards you with an unusual expression from her chair after you settle into your bath before speaking at last, “so, husband, how was the rest of your trip? I would love to hear more of Gulltown. I’ve been there many times, you see, and of course you didn’t just show up and set a fire and leave,” she says this almost sweetly, almost, “so what else happened?”
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>>3793159
You’re more than a little uncomfortable with the line of questioning and hope it doesn’t show too much as you say, “like I said, it was simple. We spent the day in a tavern and broke into the warehouses at night. We camped out at a jetty nearby for the rest of the night and caught a ship back to Dyre Den the next day.”

“A tavern? And you were there all day?” She has this vacant expression like she isn’t even looking at you anymore. She sounds… hurt.

You really don’t like where this is going, but feel compelled to give some sort of answer, “yes… we didn’t want to be recognized around the city and figured it would be best to lay low.”

“Lay low. So, what was her name?” Her bright purple eyes are shimmering with tears.

“What,” you respond eloquently.

“Do you think I’m stupid, Cormaic? I’ve told you my deepest secrets and I thought you told me yours. And to think I---,” her voice is trembling before she shakes her head and tries to put more strength into her tone, “your tavern girl. Or was there more than just one? I know you’re lying to me, Cormaic. Lie to your friends. Lie to your mother even. But how could you lie to me? I trusted you.”

She holds up a single strand of long, mousy brown hair. Your mind flashes back to a dark alley and a frightened girl with the same hair. “From your cloak. Pretty hair. Are brunettes more your type? I hear tales of Westerosi men using their wives just to form alliances and breed children. You’ve done both now, so you move on to some pretty thing that isn’t getting fat from child.” She storms out of the room without another word. You sink back under the water.

>That's it for tonight. I won't have time for a run tomorrow, but I'll probably have some sort of vote up in between now and Wednesday. Thanks for playing!
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>3793159
>No! Atia, wait!
Run after her you fuck.
Im happy for her to think us a murderer but not to think we'd betray her like that.
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gay
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Haha. Fucking hormones.
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>>3793163
Oh come on, be reasonable. What? Tavern wenches don't scatter their hairs around while serving drinks?

>>3793302
My thoughts too.

We should've brought gifts.
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>>3793163
Two can play at that game

How could you possible know?
It was just some lowly common girl, it shouldn't mean anything.... and yet it bothers me so.

You weren't there, how could you possible know what I felt in the heat of the moment. I did what I felt was needed.
Then later she finds out we didn't cheat on her and it was a huge misunderstanding. She ends up being happy we just killed a girl and not cheat on her.
:p

alternatively when she starts loathing us for it, shout at her its not like I cheated on you goddamit!

That would probably confuse her for a bit until she it slowly dawns on her.
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>>3793311
I kinda like this
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>>3793311
>>3793318
I don't. Not how Cormaic would behave but a slimy neckbeard. Sounds passive-aggressive and awkward to read.

Be a man, let her calm down and deny the accusation.
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>>3793324
In my eyes our character would need to be really dense for this to happen and I don't think Cormaic is. He just kinda gave me a chuckle
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>>3793324
You sound pretty mad over a common relationship trope.

>>3793332
You get it.
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>>3793163
>>3793217
This.
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>>3793217
Yeah, tell her about the true about the murder, no way we are going to let her think we cheated on her.
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>"Did you penetrate a bar girl?"
>"Technically yes..."
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>"I'm sure you broke her heart too."
>"Yeah you could say that..."
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>>3793302
Yeah, I could convince myself that there was at least some sort of a thought process to some of the decisions taken in Gulltown.

However, there was nothing remotely reasonable about doing a 180 and trying to hide your mistakes from her. Even just looking at in mechanically, you're shit at intrigue compared to her. And she is literally smarter than you at cunning 5. Her lower awareness was probably the only hope you had and that went out the window when you missed the deception DC. The reasons for doing so were also outright confusing to me. Hiding things to keep her faith in you? She's not a robot. She isn't going to smile and nod and pull you into bed at whatever you do. You all chose a woman with one of the more independent personalities I could've thrown your way and this is more than likely going to get worse before it gets better. She hasn't even realized you didn't bother spending the time to get your daughter a gift for her nameday despite being in an area loaded with merchants.

Now you've definitely kept secrets from her. There's no taking that back. Secrets that will definitely upset her. No, she's not fine with you setting a city on fire either. Why would she be? She's just preoccupied with thinking you're having affairs right now. I've mentioned her having a jealous streak over your past. This shouldn't be too much of a surprise if you think about it. An 18 year old girl, about 5 or 6 weeks pregnant and going through hormonal changes, who you've known for less than 4 months and been with for even less. You leave her for the first time after finding out she's pregnant for a port city. She knows what men do by the docks in port cities. You come back and she finds a suspicious hair on your cloak when she hugs you. Okay, maybe there is still a reasonable explanation. Then you give her half a story and slink off to go take a bath and continue to provide half truths with a guilty and uncomfortable expression. And here we are.
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>"Did you look in her eyes while you did it?"
>"Okay this is getting silly."
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>>3793428
And this is why anons dont deserve relationships.
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>>3793482
To be fair this is 4chan and I wouldnt be surprised if most anons have never had a relationship.

Let her be mad. We can deny her accusations because we can honestly say we were faithful to her. If shes a month or so pregnant she'll likely be starting to suffer from mood swings so let's not over react and go running to her like a dog with a tail between its legs. Having your wife be mad at you for a week isnt the end of the world, especially when shes pregnant.
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>>3793508
>To be fair this is 4chan and I wouldnt be surprised if most anons have never had a relationship.
Also different anons vote at different points in the story. Such is the nature of quests, we as a whole can't be consistent all the time.

>If shes a month or so pregnant she'll likely be starting to suffer from mood swings so let's not over react and go running to her like a dog with a tail between its legs. Having your wife be mad at you for a week isnt the end of the world, especially when shes pregnant.
And this is mature behavior.
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>>3793557
I'd say realizing that people, especially couples, fight is alot more mature than panicking because "oh no, waifu mad". People and characters have emotions and people need to realize that no relationship is perfect all the time.

Have you ever tried to calm down a hysterical pregnant women? If you havent let me give you some advice. Don't. Let them calm themselves down and they'll approach you to finish the conversation when they're ready.
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>>3793562
>Have you ever tried to calm down a hysterical pregnant women? If you havent let me give you some advice. Don't. Let them calm themselves down and they'll approach you to finish the conversation when they're ready.
People overreacting and generally acting pissy behave like angry children. And you can't reason with that inner child, got to let it sink back in. Thus I support waiting for Atia to get hold of herself first.
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>>3793567
And she is acting like a child. Yeah we spent some time in a tavern and it's that improbable that a hair fell on our cloak from the general experience? Especially in an age where more men had long hair? Are you kidding me? And after a boat trip home that hair was still there? It's way more likely that it's the hair from one of our men than some tavern wench from Gulltown so for her to start throwing accusations like that means shes self-conscious about herself. Go give her the dick when she calms down and show her that we don't give a fuck about her being up the duff.
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Hmm okay, I think I see two distinctly different approaches being formulated here. So I'll put it to a vote for tomorrow night's opening post. I'll pop in periodically to answer questions, about this or anything else.

>Follow Atia and attempt to explain things now.
>Give her space and let her come back to you when she's ready instead.
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>>3793666
Just go and tell her what happened
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>>3793666
>>Give her space and let her come back to you when she's ready instead.

Great trips too
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>>3793666
>>Follow Atia and attempt to explain things now.
Apologize by telling her we're still processing what we did, and we're not comfortable with it either, so we didn't want to burden her.
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>>3793666
>>Follow Atia and attempt to explain things now.
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>>3793666
>>Give her space and let her come back to you when she's ready instead.
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>>3793666
Give her space and let her come back to you when she's ready instead.

Virgins...
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>>3793666
>>Follow Atia and attempt to explain things now.
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>>3793666
>>Give her space and let her come back to you when she's ready instead.
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>>3793731
> Letting significant other fester over misunderstanding
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>>3793764
>Being this much of a faggot and wanting to go chase after our wife when shes being irrational...
Fucking hell did we give her our balls when we gave her that pelt too? Giving her a few days to calm down isnt letting something fester. Besides, imagine how this conversation is going to go.
>Atia wait no. Stop. I'm sorry. I didn't cheat on you. That hair is from an innocent girl I murdered, but I didn't sleep with her I promise.
Yeah that sounds like its going to go over real well when shes already freaking out about other stuff that is far more minor than murder
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>>3793666
>Follow Atia and attempt to explain things now.

So many incels calling other people virgins in this thread.
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>>3793792
This, this is just sad.
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>>3793809
Good comeback retard. Try addressing why you think spilling out our guts to our wife of 2(?) months about murdering a girl in cold blood while she is just starting to grow a new life inside of her. Oh wait. There isnt one.
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>>3793817
Treating her like an equal rather than a child would be a good reason.
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>>3793822
If she wants to be treated like an adult maybe she should act like one instead of storming off after finding a single brown hair.
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>>3793666
>>Give her space and let her come back to you when she's ready instead.
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>>3793830
>after finding a single brown hair
And clearly noticing that we are hiding/lying to her about something
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>>3793836
So we can explain to her that we didnt once she calms down. We can swear on Rhollor and explain to her rationally. Chasing after her full of excuses looks guilty, telling her the truth is a terrible idea. But not even dignifying her accusation with a response? Let her go off and pout for a while and once her anger leaves her shes going to start thinking... what the hell? And she gets curious and comes back to us. Seems much more in character for the aloof and pragmatic Cormaic anyways
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>>3793817
Depending on the woman, either options could work.

In my opinion, Aita is more of the former, so correcting the record sooner rather than later would be best.

Think of the downsides of not giving her anything to reaasure, refute or counter her thoughts about an affair? What if she where to send a letter to her dad demanding that everything be called off? What if she plots to inform enemy houses or the crown of our activitives,? What if she even tries to harm the unborn child? All to get back at us.

>>3793846
From what I've seen, letting a girl "cool off" tends to work better in more seasoned relationships were there are known aspects and quantities of each other (some girls even storm off and lock themselves in their rooms until they calm down). We are fairly newly wed and we haven't had a emotional hurdle like this before, so its best to make sure we communicate things well enough till we know and understand each other better before leaving her alone and giving her space.

I'm open to hearing everyone's thoughts on this.
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>>3793883
You think she is going to react that poorly to be left alone for a few days? And in regards to getting a divorce? Tough luck. Ain't no such thing unless its annulled by the faith (lol) or the king himself. And if she starts plotting like that so immediately then anons chose the wrong wife. Let's just not look like a pussy and go chasing after her. All I'm asking I'd give it a few days to get our story straight and not tell our wife we committed murder.
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>>3793883
>From what I've seen, letting a girl "cool off" tends to work better in more seasoned relationships
Lets get pussy-whipped from the start :^)

She has Cormaic's child, she's not going to divorce anybody. And over what? A hair? lol
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>>3793846
What she wind out is that.
> He let me live with the lie even seeing my distress
> He murdered innocent girl
So after "cooling down period" she will have not one but two things to be pissed about.

And of course she knows that we killed fucking people. We didnt went there to pick flowers.
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>>3793899
Well there were only two options so 50/50 chance of the wrong wife :p

>>3793903
Depends on how you handle it.
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>>3793919
Hey now! I totally had a Neither option that would've been fine too! If you like being fully beholden to the Lannisters.
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I disagree with the lot of you. We may as well commit to telling the truth. She will not become super aware of of us. So she wont be passively listening to anything we tell her. Activity looking for potential lies. We are already bad at it. Tell her the truth. And that we thought we were protecting her from some hard truth. And that we dodnt want to look bad infront if her.
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>>3793926
>Cersi mistress? Or a Lannie bride? What if we cuck Jamie outta his sisters bed?
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>>3793945
With our persuasion? Anon pls
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>>3793950
This guy made it look easy, don't make it look hard.
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>>3793945
One of Cersei's many court ladies. It would've nullified your debt and the future of your house would've been tied to the whims of the Westerlands. Even more of an intrigue type than the other two and quite catty. Probably more polarizing than Alysanne overall, but would've been the most okay with this weird murderhobo streak.

I also had a Frog from the Neck earlier on. She was going to be from the other House Boggs. Yeah, fun fact there, there's another one in the Neck. Got me confused a couple of times when I was prepping for the quest at the beginning. You were only going to be able to run into her if you decided to keep fighting in the Riverlands instead of pulling back with your loot. (You were almost certainly going to get captured if you pressed your luck.) I maybe would've added in more Old Gods and greenseer stuff.
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>>3793992
What if our sister in law helps Cersei relive her frustration?
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>>3794007
relief*

I wonder how things would go if she never sleeps around with other men?
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>>3794007
>>3794011
Are you talking about Tyrra? She's actually not a lesbian. Like, less than Atia for sure. (And no Atia isn't going to sleep with the queen.)

Cersei has already been sleeping with Jaime. I'm not going to cause any crazy ripple effects anyway.
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>>3794045
>less than Atia for sure
Interesting.

>Cersei has already
Wait what? Jamie beat Robert to cherrypunch?
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>>3793666
>>Follow Atia and attempt to explain things now.
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>>3793666
>>Follow Atia and attempt to explain things now.
Whole truth
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>>3793666
>>Follow Atia and attempt to explain things now.
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>>3793666
>>Follow Atia and attempt to explain things now
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>>3793666
>>Follow Atia and attempt to explain things now.
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>>3793899
>Let's just not look like a pussy and go chasing after her.
To who? HER? it would be more of a choice to show her that we love her. And didn't want her believing that we would cheat on her, especially considering she just got pregnant with our child.
We would explain that while we did not cheat on her what we did, we are so ashamed of what we did we did not want to share that part. And wouldn't want her to think less of us as her husband considering what we did. And further, explain that as she knows some times things happen where we have to get our hands dirty. It may not have been the best choice we made but hindsight is 20/20.

Like some anon said, letting this fester may not be the best choice. It may just solidify these angry thoughts of hers atm. Fess up the truth, and how we thought hiding information that doesn't exactly put us in the best light was best to hide or not important.
I also don't see why this was a real deception roll entirely. Omitting one part of the story was the only reason to not tell her the whole truth. But I guess we as anon's should have put that as a write-in.
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>>3793666
Actually thinking about it, I’ll go for
>Give her space and let her come back to you when she's ready instead
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>>3794481
>spoilers
Basically, I started writing up the scene with the fact that she knew you were leaving a bunch of details out and it was bothering her immensely because of the conclusions she was jumping to. Then I thought, why not at least give anons the chance to see if they could smooth talk/ downplay over the details well enough to get her to think she was overreacting. I'd go as far as to say the DC was generously low too. I didn't throw any circumstantial modifiers in, which would have jacked it up. It was just her intrigue defense plus 2 from her Affectionate disposition towards you. Pic related for disposition levels. Basically, it's easier to persuade and harder to deceive those closest to you.
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Aaaand forgot the pic!

Also, I think it's safe to call it for going after her now. Yes, that was the right choice. Now you don't have to go after her in the morning. And by go after I mean she was 100% going to pack up her bags and head to a villa she's used before on the outskirts of King's Landing. You're living in a crowded tower in a swamp that is also under construction. Why would she would clear her head here?
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>>3794678
I still stand by we should have let her go. How the fuck is she getting out of the swamp by herself? And anons thinking she isnt overreacting in the ost ridiculous if ways are fucking kidding themselves . Hooray.another pussy whipped MC
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>>3794740
She is this lands lord. Who would stop her? Short of us barring her way, who would stop the wife's lord from doing anything? At best our mother or sister could try and convince her, but her own status is above theirs's technically speaking I believe.
And we would be an idiot to enrage a pregnant woman, who is carrying our child by barring her leave and potentially locking her up if she is that dedicated. It would do way more harm than good.

Anon if you're fighting with your gf/wife..is that what you would do? O_O
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>>3794752
Any of our men should realize that hmm. Maybe something is amiss and I should either a.) Stop her. Or b.) Immediately tell the knight of Boggwood. Which is us.

When me and my wife argue we absolutely do that and have since day one. Argue, leave each other alone, figure things out. Can't talk sense into people when they're furious.. Been married for 7, together for 10 so I'd say it works pretty well.
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>>3794778
So you would stop your wife from leaving to cool her head where she feels comfortable going? And expect people around you to stop her from leaving?
I am sure others would let us know as lord and all. But Don't believe anyone would stop her outright.
>>3794740
>anons thinking she isn't overreacting in the ost ridiculous if ways are fucking kidding themselves
I also honestly don't see the part where she is overreacting reacting. We told her about some of the things we did. She noticed we are not telling her everything, or lying about something. She is a merchants daughter, she knows exactly what happens at ports. Trading and fucking, since you are away from home.
We come home, with another presumably's woman's hair on ourselves. And she storms out of the room.

Again, she is pregnant and has not known Cormaic, her husband for even 6 months. She can't tell what kind of life he lived beforehand. He has a child, to what he said was a noblewoman, but that could have been a lie as well. What she does know for sure, is he has a bastard.
I can't seem to connect your logic to think that she hasn't made a rational decision. She is also pregnant. Which I believe as a not shit human being you give some leeway, on things to and come back to later when things have cooled off or something.
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>>3794809
Absolutely. You ignore each other and stay in different parts of the house. Maybe dont sleep in the same bed. You dont fuck off half way across the country after a day of not talking to someone.

The real question is how the fuck did a hair stick to our cloak all the way from fucking Gulltown. That's a long fucking way we could have picked it up from literally anywhere.
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Tyrra would obviously be going with her. And yeah your men would've been fairly quick to tell you they saw her leave, but obviously wouldn't bar the Lady of the House's path without explicit instructions from you. Not that she was going to completely sneak out without telling anyone where she was going. It's not quite that bad of a situation, but not great either.

All women are different. This one likes to be chased by you. Alysanne, for example, would've preferred the space for sure.

Another thing that piqued my interest earlier in the day that I avoided commenting on was the idea of divorce or separation. It's really important to remember that she's Pentoshi. There's no way a Westerosi wife would be able to leave you without scandalizing both your house and her father's house unless you were severely mistreating her. But Atia? She married you for one simple reason: she actually loves you. Her father was interested in the arrangement for one simple reason: ships. He has no reason to care where she is living as long as he still has an alliance intact, which it would be one way or another as long as your heir is around. A good example of how this could've played out is Mellario of Norvos.
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>>3794809
>>3794834
I think both of you guys have a point to be made here. On one hand, I personally would have voted to let her cool her head for a little while, and then approach her later that evening and tell her parts of what happened. Not rushing out of our bath (I think we were taking a bath?) to chase after her. Fucking work getting in the way of posting on chinese papaer hat forums. I'll admit that seems a bit out of character for Cormaic in my eyes seeing as our nuptial bliss has only lasted 6 weeks. HOWEVER!

I wouldn't go so far as to say that Cormaic is "whipped by this" and as Boggs said, it was the right choice for the relationship. We arn't people living in the setting, and we have modern sensibilities and values so the character isn't always played 100% period accurate and that's okay. It's what makes roleplaying fun. Besides, the votes been called and we're chasing after our little pregnant essosi wife.

Boggs is Cormaic an ass man or a boob guy? These are crucial details we need to know
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>>3794834
A little ridiculous, if you ask me. But OP has to write a conflict somehow. Can't be all rainbows and sunshine. I think this was a great conflict. That if we play the next few cards right. ould make our bond stronger. Or you know we both live cold lives around each other. House Reynold kind of thing.
>>3794851
mhm
How are Pentoshi Divorces handled?
>>3794852
Agreed we need to know. So IC we can make the right calls...
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>>3794778
>>3794834
If you really are married, I can''t imagine it being anything but a rollercoaster.

Everything seems to be about ego, pride and power dynamics. That just doesn't sound healthy or sustainable.

>>3794861
>How are Pentoshi Divorces handled?
Probably very bloody.
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>>3794834
>>3794861
My dudes, the cloak is wool. Have you WORN wool before? I have literally had this happen. Not with the misunderstandings and all of that crazy shit, but with a single strand of fucking hair sticking to it over a long trip. It IS absolutely ridiculous. Horrid material.

As for divorces, there likely wouldn't have been one even if this played out a lot worse than I could reasonably see it going. If you somehow had such an irreconcilable falling out, then she would've just moved away. I seriously doubt that's going to happen at all since you're going to talk this out now. She's obviously going to ask some things of you though.

>>3794852
I probably could've phrased it better then because you're not going to spring up out of the tub. You have more dignity than that. She wasn't going to leave for a few hours anyway.

And wow, asking the important questions!

Exhibit A:
>You give the barmaid your patented smirk and sit back in your chair, content to drink the pisswater that passes for ale here and bide your time. Aye, she’s definitely your type. Curves in all of the right places, a sultry smile, and some sort of complex that makes her gravitate to the most dangerous thing in the room. The type men ache to bring to a room upstairs and try to conquer, but not the type a man of your means and talents would think of settling down with. You’re a big fan of a pair of tits, but you have something more now. You have the trophy.

Exhibit B:
>And then you see her. Flowing brown hair, a finely embroidered dress in the green of her house, tracts of la—her face. Hazel eyes and a pretty face that is a testament to good breeding.

These are the only parts of the quest so far in which I've said anything in character one way or the other. Both have a hint towards boobs, but the former mentions curves, which one would typically, though not necessarily, associate with ass. Probably a boob guy?
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I'm giving this way too much thought. Here's your overnight vote. Hopefully there will be less shit flinging with this one.

>Ass man
>Boob guy
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>>3794962
>Hourglass
So a good healthy proportional ratio of boobs and ass, on a nice curvy body.

D cup+plump rear
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>>3794987
Oh no. That's too easy. The whole point is to pick just one.
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>>3794994
>Feet
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>>3794999
You've gone too far.
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>>3795025
>hands
for handholding
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>>3795034
As degenerate as that is, it's better than feet.
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>>3794962
>Leg enthusiasts
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>>3794778
I'm on your side
that said, people are different
I need to blow off steam to fix shit, my wife needs to square shit up immediately. which is a cause of a bunch of trouble in our house.
people are different
my vote went the same way as yours.

though i feel the majority of anons itt are virgin whiteknights, what can you do? these threads arent exactly rooted in reality
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>>3795071
looks like my trip should be tommy-two-time
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>>3795074
>>3795071
Stop fucking spoilering every sentence.
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>>3795142
They have something to hide.
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I mean obviously whatever Atia's best feature is. So most likely
>ass man
Only acceptable answer.
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>>3795347
She's kinda lacking in both right now. That's where Shona's "too skinny" comment came from after the pregnancy announcement. Maybe motherhood will change that?
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>>3795408
Well, shes gonna need to feed the babies so they grow up big and strong so.....

Maybe......
Elbows
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>>3796242
bobs and vegana
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>Follow Atia and attempt to explain things now

You almost call out to her or leap out of the tub, but you think better of it. You’ll take the time to gather your thoughts and explain yourself as calmly as possible. Besides, you have more dignity than to be seen chasing after her in a state of undress like a desperate boy.

Of all the possible reactions, this was probably the last you expected. You’ve heard horror stories of the moods of women when they’re with child, but this came out of nowhere. You don’t get the insecurity. She doesn’t even have a bump yet… getting fat? Your mother and Ciara are actively trying to get her to gain weight now. She doesn’t look unhealthy by any means, but she’s far too skinny by the standards of women of First Men stock, especially for an expectant mother.

You finish cleaning yourself and throw on some simple clothes. There are only so many places she could be in the tower, assuming she hasn’t done anything too crazy like heading out on a ride. You end up following the lingering scent of her perfume to… Ciara’s room? You knock on the door and Ciara opens it, glaring at you. “May I speak to my wife?” you say.

Ciara wordlessly opens the door, still glaring at you. You enter and see Atia sitting on the side of the bed, her face a mess from crying. “May we have some privacy,” you say as Ciara hovers over your shoulder. She leaves in a huff, grumbling about it being her room. You’re not going to appear vulnerable around your sister if you can help it. She’s probably one of the most caring people you’ve met, but it just doesn’t feel right.

You spend the next thirty minutes or so explaining what really happened in Gulltown. She believes you fully by the end of it, but clearly isn’t pleased either. “Cormaic, this isn’t you. You are a knight, yes? Knights don’t kill innocent girls,” she says with some fresh tears, “you have a girl of your own. She had her own life, maybe people who cared about her. She didn't plot against us. You’re better than this. I want you to promise me,” she touches her stomach and stares up at you with purple eyes shimmering with resolve, “Us. That you won’t harm innocents again. There is always another way to do things and you of all people should be able to figure it out.”

Well?
>Promise not to kill innocents
>Don’t
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>>3796322
>Promise not to kill innocents
We are just and this whole excursion was retarded idea.
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>>3796328
+1
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>>3796322
>Promise not to kill innocents
I mean this could just make this relationship stronger.
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>>3796322
Not even a persuasion test? Man. Alright well obviously we're playing suck up, but I find it very unbelievable that she believes us that easily.
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>>3796322
>Don’t
What if our house or loved ones lives will be at risk if we do not? What then?
[Atia gives some reason]
Okay, I will. I will promise because I love you.
>Promise not to kill innocents

Sappy love ending unlocked!
>Roll Credits
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>>3796345
Other than this one blip, you two have been very close. She can tell you're not lying if for no other reason than she knows you're not this convincing of an actor. There'd be a persuasion test if you actually were trying to persuade her of something, like say if you have a write in to justify killing innocents.
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>>3796322
>>Promise not to kill innocents


If it can be avoided :^)
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>>3796322
>>Promise not to kill innocents
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>Promise not to kill innocents

Why make this worse? It’s not like you are that comfortable doing so in the first place. And if it does really come down to it… well, you’ll cross that bridge when you get there. You take her hands in yours, look her in the eyes, and vow, “I promise, Atia. I’ll do my best to avoid harming innocents.”

She stares into your eyes for several long moments and then nods with a slight smile, “I’m trusting you,” she pauses, “but I have a confession for you too. I… wasn’t myself before. I was going to leave with Tyrra and go stay at a villa I’ve used before to go think. I’m sorry. I wasn’t going to leave to punish you, but it’s just so crowded and loud with all of the workers. I know they’ve been vetted, but I can’t help thinking another one is going to leap at me. In truth, I still wish to leave. With you, of course. We have a few weeks before we need to go to King’s Landing, but we could stay at the villa nearby? I’ll be good! No flaunting around town that we are married! I just want to get away from everything here.”

She’s told you of this villa before, but you hadn’t thought much of it, just pillow talk. It should be just north of King’s Landing near the Rosby Road… You suppose you’ve never had time away to yourselves at all since the wedding. It could be nice to spend time alone without constant knocks on your door or banging on the walls and ceiling. Of course, Atia would have to stay on the grounds of the villa itself for now, but you could get some shopping done at the nearby markets.

You also could really use some better traveling clothes. And clothes for court. Anything that doesn’t function as armor, really, as absurd as the notion is. Seven worshipers like their men to be prettied up like women. You’d think they would’ve learned such notions breed weak men. You’ve had a lot of time to think on this. How else was the war lost when the Loyalists had numerical superiority? The North, the Stormlands, the Vale. Respectable martial cultures all. Against what? The Crownlands, Dorne, and the Reach. The houses of the Crownlands had grown too weak catering to their courtly lifestyles, Lordlings powdered up like they were off to their very own Maiden’s Day Cattle Show whenever they went grasping at the Mad King’s teat. Dorne and the Reach? Buggerers, nothing more.

>Head down to this villa, your mother or Barth can handle things here. The Lady Shona did fine while you were off fighting.
>Stay here, you may be needed for something.
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>>3796474
>>Head down to this villa, your mother or Barth can handle things here. The Lady Shona did fine while you were off fighting.
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>>3796474
>Stay here, you may be needed for something.
This is a trap to screw us over, and be exploited by blackmail. Why do you keep throwing traps at us Boggs? Why?

Send some of our trusted and elite men for her safety.
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>>3796523
Lol, I already threw you guys the reparations amount. You'd need to do something pretty stupid to mess that up. Like get caught in Gulltown stupid. Remember, you're just a status 3 knight. The Realm doesn't whisper at your every step. Not yet, at least.
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>>3796474
>>Head down to this villa, your mother or Barth can handle things here. The Lady Shona did fine while you were off fighting.

Going on record and saying this is a very hesitant vote
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>>3796474
>>Stay here, you may be needed for something.
I really want to head down to the villa. But we can't be too careful. We should send 2-3 of the men we took with us to gulltown. That isn't too obvious. And send them off privately so few know she even left elsewhere.
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>>3796474
>>>Head down to this villa, your mother or Barth can handle things here. The Lady Shona did fine while you were off fighting.
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>>3796506
>>3796523
>>3796588
>>3796590
>>3796598
Calling it here so I can get another post out. No joke, it wasn't a trap lol. Unless you do some silly shit while you're there I guess? Anyway, writing!
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Got called away from my computer. So just because it's somewhat related to something I was about to type up, I just want to reiterate: I 100% rolled for every aspect of this pregnancy/child. That's all.
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>>3796699
This leads me to suspect that this child is going to be an absolute baller, with Valyrian features and catlike pupils...or an absolute scrub with the worst of both parents....
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>>3796474
>Head down to this villa, your mother or Barth can handle things here. The Lady Shona did fine while you were off fighting.
Bring 20 good man with you
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>>3796708
Bring 14 and play Fortnite.
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>The vote at the end is the overnight vote. Thanks for playing!

>Head down to this villa, your mother or Barth can handle things here. The Lady Shona did fine while you were off fighting.

“You’re not going to cause any trouble? No hopping into my saddle or boasting to merchants or whoever else?”

“No! I will stay at the villa and cause no trouble! One of Papa’s ships should be here to pick up the pearls any day now. Perhaps he wrote back to me too? We can take it down the coast instead of having to deal with gossipers. And it will allow us to pack for a longer stay!” She wraps you in a tight embrace and then rushes off to start preparing, already knowing your answer from your expression.

You pass by Ciara on your way to your room and assure her it was just a misunderstanding. It’s good to see those two are becoming close enough for Atia to rush to her in such a way. You also tell her offhandedly to pack her bags before continuing on your way and ignoring her questions. You’ll never pass up an opportunity to throw her off.

With a ship at your service, you can pack your gold up too. You’d rather it all travel with you and some of your best men directly than it get “lost” or stolen by “bandits” on its journey to the Crown’s coffers. These are desperate times for a lot of houses right now and you’re not exactly well liked. Even purportedly honorable types may see some justification in taking from you with so much at stake. So, you’ll bring along a score of your best Sparrowhawks. It would be best to have them as a deterrent if nothing else. You haven’t seen the proper Crownlands since the Sack, but you doubt it’s as safe as it used to be.

(1/2)
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>>3796761
Ciara is obviously coming as well with her husband hunting. Is hunting the right word for it? Since it’s her… yes. As is Esmeralda, if for no other reason than because you won’t leave her here with just your mother for her nameday. It just doesn’t feel right. You probably will leave her at the villa instead of bringing her into the city though. No good can come of that. You’ve been giving a lot of thought to her future lately. She may not be your trueborn heir, but you can still guide her development. The question is, who do you want her to mentor under the most?

>Atia. She can learn how to be a steward and hopefully won’t turn into a seductress.
>Ciara. You don’t speak of it often, but your sister has remarkable talents as a healer. You don’t think Ciara would mind either, she also likes the girl.
>Tyrra. Water dancing has served your good-sister well at least. Not a traditional upbringing, but Esmeralda is half dornish, right?
>Yourself. You could teach her how to shoot a bow if nothing else. Definitely not traditional.
>Other.
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>>3796765
>Tyrra. Water dancing has served your good-sister well at least. Not a traditional upbringing, but Esmeralda is half dornish, right?
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>>3796765
>Tyrra. Water dancing has served your good-sister well at least. Not a traditional upbringing, but Esmeralda is half dornish, right?
>Yourself. You could teach her how to shoot a bow if nothing else. Definitely not traditional.

Bring more men with us. Just in case.
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>>3796769
Oh you are. A score is twenty. Any more than that and you'd draw unwanted attention. Also, probably best to pick just one option for this vote, given this is going to be my idea for what sort of character sheet I need to make for her eventually.
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>>3796765
>Tyrra. Water dancing has served your good-sister well at least. Not a traditional upbringing, but Esmeralda is half dornish, right?
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>>3796765
>Yourself. You could teach her how to shoot a bow if nothing else. Definitely not traditional.
Keep the family tradition alive, she will one day lead her own scout unit of all female archers.
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>>3796699
sure, you are not the type to railroad anything boss man
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>>3796765
>>Tyrra. Water dancing has served your good-sister well at least. Not a traditional upbringing, but Esmeralda is half dornish, right?
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>>3796765
I'd say Tyrra and perhaps somebody from Dorne later on to introduce her to dornish court.
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>>3796765
>>Tyrra. Water dancing has served your good-sister well at least. Not a traditional upbringing, but Esmeralda is half dornish, right?
She can also teach her her language so she can grow up bilingual. So when she grows up and if she feels Westeros isn't right for her, she can go across the narrow sea and have adventures and shit.
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>>3796765
>>Tyrra. Water dancing has served your good-sister well at least. Not a traditional upbringing, but Esmeralda is half dornish, right?
Good fighter and a sprinkle of Atia to let her hold her own anywhere she moves around.
Now if we have a son, it would be ourself, tyrra, and Atia for persuasion.
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>>3796849
Yeah, I plan on giving an option when she's older to tell her about her mother or not. I'd imagine she'd want to go learn more at that point.
>>3797060
This is also true. There's a good chance I'll set her up as a playable side character for the Five Kings era if we get there. Especially if Cormaic ends up dead or something.

I think I'm going to assume this is the direction we are going now. It's unlikely the vote will drastically shift in another direction by tonight.

Thinking about it, this is probably the best all around. You and Atia will have your hands full with your trueborn children and Ciara doesn't plan on wasting any time having some of her own. Tyrra has no children to care for, but she's actually always wanted one. Water dancing wasn't exactly her first choice in life. She was in love with a Bravo when she was around Atia's age and always assumed they would have a family together of their own. Then he died in a duel, as young swordsmen in the free cities do all too frequently. She never really got over it and focused on her water dancing as her only real outlet. Maybe this will be good for her?
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>>3797127
Praise Rhllor she isn't a lesbo.
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>>3796765
>>Tyrra. Water dancing has served your good-sister well at least. Not a traditional upbringing, but Esmeralda is half dornish, right?
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>>3797128
I almost went that way when I made her, but lesbian fighter just feels like too much of a trope to me. Some may say that's for good reason, but I'd like to keep things fresh and original where I can.
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>>3797135
We need to find her a husbando.
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>>3797222
Trips of truth, but it would be a tough sell and she's not someone you're personally entitled to marry off. Luckily her father doesn't see her as a useful asset in that way due to her age and general disposition. That's why she's been allowed to stick with Atia.
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>>3797335
I'm not saying to marry her off, just to get her a guy that likes tough fighter chicks.
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First post will be up in the next 45 min.

Also, if anyone could tell me what I need to do to archive the last thread then that would be great. I see there's a request form. Do I just fill it out and press go? Probably a dumb question, but I don't want to mess it up after hearing of misarchives in other quests.
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>>3797900
>Do I just fill it out and press go?
Yes it's all you need to do
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>>3797900
Thread number
Thread title,

Make a decent but short discription of a summary of the thread and notable things that happened.

Throw up some tags, like Main characters name, QM name ie "Boggs" put in quest and GOT related tags including "House Boggs" and such.

Then hit GO!
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>>3797929
>>3797932

Cool, thanks guys!
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>>3797943
Don't forget to put commas to separate your tags.

Boggs, Game of Thrones, etc,

Like so, otherwise they may not form proper links to said tags.
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>Tyrra. Water dancing has served your good-sister well at least. Not traditional by any means, but Esmeralda is half dornish, right?

>2 Days later

You find yourself on a Pentoshi merchant cog sailing around the tip of Crackclaw Point and you’ve come to an important realization. Women shouldn’t wear pants. An old maxim ingrained in polite society that you’ve had little reason to consider until now. You’re perched at the bow of the ship, as you tend to do, watching Esmeralda run about and hopefully exhaust herself. Your daughter is surprisingly agile on her feet for a two-year-old, especially considering this is probably her first time aboard a ship. She’s been spending a lot of time with Tyrra and they both seem to enjoy each other’s company. You’ve resolved yourself to talk to Tyrra, probably with Atia’s assistance, about her mentoring Esmeralda. As odd as it seems, she’s the logical choice. Atia is going to be busy with a child of her own soon enough, and she is the one that handles the majority of the finances now as well. Ciara is likely going to be in a similar position sometime in the next year or two and you’re looking for a long-term commitment here. You could mentor your daughter yourself, and you think you may find it to be enjoyable, but it’s just not done. You’re more than likely going to end up with a squire soon enough and it will be taxing to handle teaching a young girl your skills on top of a squire and your heir. Not to mention the possible slights that could be perceived against any that are made to learn martial skills alongside your natural daughter. But Tyrra? Her only job is to be a bodyguard and apparently braid your wife’s hair. She also has no children of her own and is approaching an age at which that will no longer be an option. She has an abundance of time and skill. Teaching Esmeralda to defend herself has a lot of appeal to you as well. It’s a harsh world for the bastard-born, especially for girls. You feel as if your presence and reputation alone may serve as a deterrent for the worst of the predations, but another part of you knows you won’t always be there.

But where were you? Right. Pants. You’re trying to keep your jaw wedged in place as you watch Tyrra squatting down in a pair of traveling breeches while she helps Esmeralda untie a knot in the length of rope she’s been swinging around. Two details are readily apparent: whatever exercise routine she has is doing absolute wonders for the shape of her ass and almost half of it comes out of the top of her pants when she squats like that.

cont.
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>>3798015
You’re not one to gawk at women like an awkward squire, but this is just different. It doesn’t help that your wife has been starting to feel under the weather from her condition. You spent your first night back just cuddling with her after your fight and subsequent make up. You figured you could wait until the morning to catch up on what you’ve been missing for the past week, but then you woke up to her retching. You really didn’t know how to handle that, so you woke up Ciara instead who assured you it is a normal occurrence for women with child. The trouble is, sea travel has only made it worse. Luckily Ciara has been attending to your wife in the main cabin, sparing you the worst of it. You don’t think you’re merely being insensitive. Childbirth and all of the business that surrounds it is not supposed to be a place for husbands, or any men really. Atia seems to agree, though that may be somewhat related to her insecurities she expressed in her less rational moments upon your return from Gulltown.

In any case, the two go back to playing about the ship and you turn your attentions to the east. Spring is waning and summer is quickly approaching and with it come the storms. Your stretch of land receives plenty of rain in all seasons, but the storm clouds on the distant horizon look nastier than usual. It shouldn’t trouble your voyage too much. You will make landfall well before the worst of it hits, especially with the southwesterly winds pushing your cog down the coast. That doesn’t mean it’s been easy either. The crew has had to constantly fight the wind to avoid coming too close to the coast and risk running up on the rocks. Thankfully, you have no issues at all with pirates or their ilk. The last pocket of the resistance to the new King is holed up on Dragonstone with a sizable fleet of ships anchored around the ancestral Targaryen stronghold. You’re sure that will change with the surrender of the Tyrell’s. Their sizable fleet through the Arbor and House Redwine should prove enough to ferry over Robert’s army. The scale of the warship presence in Blackwater Bay has dissuaded even the boldest of pirates from taking their chances and has allowed some degree of normalcy in trade to resume.

>1 more post!
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>>3798039
You ended up making landfall the next day at a small set of docks near Rosby. Duskendale would’ve been the more obvious port of call, but you didn’t want to make your presence known in the port town itself and this actually cuts some time off of your journey over land. A fact you were thankful for with the considerable amount of baggage you had to haul behind you. Things were so such simpler when it was just you, your bow, and a horse…

The villa itself is within the boundaries of what is considered the city of King’s Landing itself, but not within the walls. It really is a beautiful home, with its own bathing room off of the master suite and a small stable for your horses. It’s not the most defensible property, but it is enclosed behind a wall for privacy if nothing else. It still could use some work though… despite the servants’ best efforts, you can tell it was broken into somewhat recently. Probably a result of the Sack. If so, you’d still count them lucky. It’s not a burnt-out husk like some of the other buildings you passed on the way here and you’re sure the homes within the city walls faired far worse. Atia seems pleased enough by it, but she is still weak from the journey and doesn’t waste time seeking one of her favored hot baths. You end up taking over a study with books along the wall for your personal office while your men take care of moving the luggage and settling in themselves. You find you’re being asked after by both Aodhan and Ciara in short order. You also recall Atia mentioning a letter from her father. You could join her in the bath and find out more, but you may end up having to push the other two off until tomorrow if you do that. Which will you handle first?

>Women
>War
>Intrigue
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>>3798073
Intrigue
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>>3798073
>>Women
Might as well enjoy the wife before the bad shit comes
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>>3798109
My bad, I should've been more clear on that one.
Atia is intrigue
Ciara is women
Aodhan is war
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>>3798121
>Intrigue
Alright intrigue it is then
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>>3798126
this is me >>3798109
I'm using a hotspot so it changes easy
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>>3798073
>>Intrigue
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>>3798151
>>3798126
>>3798105
Intrigue it is! Writing!
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>>3798073
>Intrigue
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>Sorry, got caught up with family stuff

You tell Aodhan and Ciara to find you on the morrow after you’ve all gotten some rest. Whatever it is, it can wait. You leave your temporary office and head to the bathing room attached to your chambers. Steam billows out after you open the wooden door. There’s no doubt Atia prefers her baths to be hot. She’s lounging with her head back against the stone and her pale breasts just out of the water. She eyes you lazily as you enter the bath with her. It takes you a moment to adjust to the temperature before you can really sink in. “I was hoping you would join me, Cormaic,” she says with a sigh, “I really needed this.”

“I’m glad you’re feeling better. You haven’t been yourself for the past few days,” you say.

“No, I suppose not. I truly didn’t expect pregnancy to be so… difficult. If you only knew the half of it…” she shakes her head with a rueful smile, “but that is between me and my new physician, no?”

You frown, “your physician? I don’t recall seeing one.”

“Ciara! She’s been such a wonderful help! You never told me she was so talented with the healing arts. This trip would have been so much worse without her. I’m a little afraid to travel back again, especially if she does find the husband she so seeks,” she smiles at you mischievously, “has she told you of her plans?”

“Yes, she’s always fixated on medicine and healing. She’s learned from some of the midwives of our land, though she lacks real formal training. I suppose my father never saw the need to hire an adequate tutor for her considering she was expected to simply marry one of our neighbors and secure an alliance. In truth, I’m not even sure my mother cares much for it. Still, I’m glad it’s been helpful. And no… she hasn’t discussed her plans for King’s Landing… is this something I need to know?”

“Oh, I just thought you may be curious. She plans on attending one of those silly tournaments and sitting in a box looking all charming for Westerlands Knights to woo and ask her for favors. I think it’s cute!”

“That’s it? That’s her whole plan? Doesn’t that seem a little too optimistic?” You have to admit, you expected more.
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>>3798508
She scoffs, “Cormaic. I know she’s your sister, but please be reasonable. Now, I’m sure she’s usually complimented on her hair, which is very pretty, but have you seen the tits on her?” She grabs her own and mimes them expanding outwards. “Those things in a dress with the right cut? I would be more worried of distracting those boys when they are swinging around their swords.”

There are some conversations you have never expected to have in your life that have somehow come to pass. You can’t help feeling like Atia is the prime suspect in the majority of them. “I’m going to go ahead and trust your judgement on this one. Speaking of, what do you think of having Tyrra mentor Esmeralda in her water dancing? I don’t mean for a few days either. I’m talking about a long-term commitment. Do you think she would accept?”

“Yes! Oh, this will be so good for her! You didn’t hear this from me, but she has always wanted a child of her own. She never got over a lost love though, so I’m not sure if it will ever happen. She was like a mother to me in many ways, but not in such a way where she could pass down her legacy. Maybe this will distract her from her moods. She gets so melancholy at times… Oh! News from my Papa. He thinks he may know who was seeking to harm me. There are a few of his rivals that would have wanted to prevent him from gaining access to ships. He’s still not sure if it was just one of them or if it was all of them.”

“This is troubling. Is that all he had to say?”

“Oh, not exactly. He’s taken some precautions while he sorts out the details. He sent one of those Sorrowful Men that he so enjoys off to kill the head of one of his strongest rivals. The man had many sons, but no favored heir. The infighting it will spark will keep the city busy for some time. Perhaps enough so that we won’t be bothered any time soon,” that she’s businesslike about it this even with her qualms over violence speaks volumes as to how cutthroat Pentoshi politics can be.

“But enough about that. You have needs and so do I. I’d like to ride you until the water cools, but I’m still weak,” she wades to the edge of the pool and leans over the side with her butt up out of the water. She favors you with a coy smile and a slight wiggle, “a little bird told me you may like this.” That’s all the invitation you needed.
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>>3798509
You shuffle into your office the next day and leave the door open. Aodhan finds you first to no one’s surprise. It’s not so much that he is an exceptionally early riser, but that Ciara was so prone to sleeping in. You wave him in and he grabs a chair, “Cormaic. I’ve been meaning to catch up with you on the state of our forces. I’ve talked to Barth as well and we are in agreement. We need some infantry to replace our losses. As it stands, we look weak compared to some of our neighbors. They’re going to see this at your tourney and it may make them bolder.”

You frown. It’s concerning that he’s coming to you like this. You’re of an age with Aodhan and played together as boys. He’s always been on the quieter side, thoughtful even. A rare trait for those a warrior bend in your lands. It’s what pushed him up so quickly in the Sparrowhawks. He wouldn’t be sitting here with such a concern unless he’s been thinking it over for quite some time. “What are you proposing exactly?”

“We were thinking we need to reform your dad’s old Bronzeguard, only with some changes to avoid a repeat of last time,” he raises his hands up at this, “meaning no offense to your dad, but they’re all dead for a reason. We are better off fighting in our own way and bleeding the enemy. You proved that with the Sparrowhawks by the end of the fighting. So, we were thinking, why not form some light infantry? Skirmishers. Give the lot of them some spears and light armor like the leather we already have laying about. They could throw some spears and pull back or they could stand and fight almost as well as the regular infantry used to if it comes down to it.”

“And how do you propose we do this? The tactics seem sound, but we only have so many men,” you point out.

“That’s the other thing… the Sparrowhawks. Plenty of us are good. Great even. But a good number are holdovers from the Bronzeguard survivors and some of the other Greybeards are getting on in their years. Strictly speaking, neither can shoot for shit compared to the boys you and I grew up with. The same lads that you brought with you here. Cormaic, with you leading us like you did back in the Riverlands, we could accomplish just as much with twenty men that we can with a hundred. Sounds crazy, but the truth is some of the others are slowing us down. Whether it be with a bow or in sneaking. Especially the Bronzeguard, they’re too fucking loud,” he grumbles.
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We'll pick up tomorrow night with more story, but let me break this out so there's no confusion. I'm saying the Sparrowhawks will stay the same from a mechanical standpoint but will function as a unit of 20 in the narrative. Why? Because you could use an actual personal guard and the regular ones make no sense for you. It also means I don’t have to figure out how to handle rolls for a fraction of a unit on your end if you’re out and about with a typical honor guard and get in a fight. I’m satisfied with the narrative justification as well, but please let me know if you’re not.

Also! Basically, Aodhan (and it seems Barth as well) wants to raise a unit of Green Skirmishers. It’ll end up costing you 5 power (feel free to upgrade to trained later for 2 more power). I’m using the Special category for the unit’s stats. They are marginally less heavily armed than regular infantry, but also have a ranged profile to compliment your fighting style. You currently have no units that can fight worth a damn in close combat and it’s a glaring weakness that any potential enemies will attempt to exploit.

Obviously, you have plenty of other potential options for an additional unit, but this seems to be a fair middle ground between all of the different suggestions I’ve seen over the past couple threads. You still need to worry about ships eventually, but your docks are 8 months from completion before you can consider that option. So what do you all think? Commit to spending 5 power on this unit when you can afford it?

>Yes
>No
>Something else?
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>>3798538
>Yes
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>>3798538
>>Yes
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>>3798538
Yes
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>>3798508
So, #1 - set Atia to shop with Ciara for a fancy dress. We can afford it, correct?
Have we had a picture of Ciara?

>>3798538
If we're weak in CQC, why would we raise a unit of skirmishers? They won't relieve that disadvantage, yes?

I am fine with converting the Sparrowhawks into a special unit, but for "actual personal guard" they remain as mediocre in melee as before. Doesn't make much sense.

Lets assemble a proper unit of personal guard comprised of some real bastards/hedge knights we hire. It shall serve as our melee force.
As for Aodhan and the better lads from the Sparrowhawks, let them join the guard if they like (with a pay raise).

>It also means I don’t have to figure out how to handle rolls for a fraction of a unit on your end if you’re out and about with a typical honor guard and get in a fight.
Does it mean putting the 20% of the unit against full units?
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>>3798702
I kinda agree

>>3798538
My preferred 3rd unit is a dual-trained Infantry(or Personal Guard)+Scouts.
They'd be as good in melee as any other infantry or personal guard unit but with scout training they'd have stealth as a key ability and a long-range attack for only 2 extra power. Sounds like a bargain to me.

I'm not all that enthusiastic about thrown spears. The fact that they're only short ranged means you lose out on a lot of synergy with the Sparrowhawks - if they both had the same range then they can support each other much better. Long range also makes you better at kiting more dangerous enemies - you can loose a couple of volleys and disappear back into woods whereas shorter ranged spears make you much more likely to get caught in melee and destroyed.
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>>3798819
>They'd be as good in melee as any other infantry or personal guard unit but with scout training they'd have stealth as a key ability and a long-range attack for only 2 extra power. Sounds like a bargain to me.
To be fair, that's a lot of stats, making it OP.

Personal guard is
>Athletics; Endurance; Fighting
and that's pretty much what an elite melee unit should have. Trading Endurance for Stealth I can get behind though. Less formation holding power and stamina but more utility.

As for skirmishers, I am pretty sure Boggs would give them that extended rules kiting ability which our Sparrowhawks already have, taking half a step back and attacking.
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>>3798702
First was just Ciara talking with you about a few things. We will still get to it tonight though.

>Does it mean putting the 20% of the unit against full units?

I was going to have to work something out for it, but there are examples in the rules of treating certain units of 20 as being as capable as the units of 100, representing their elite nature. Cavalry and personal guard are what are usually used in such a way. One may say that's because of the horses, but they still keep being monsters on foot. I'm saying I'm fine with treating this particular guerrilla unit the same way. It just seems to be the easiest fix all around. The whole bit about raising a unit with the less talented Sparrowhawks is just the fluff explanation.

We've already had a vote to convert the Sparrowhawks into an actual personal guard type unit and the majority didn't want to do such a drastic change. Mechanically, this is no change at all besides easier bookkeeping for me and a touch more prestige to their reputation.

>>3798819
I thought that was a good idea too, but that was something we already voted on. A big issue is with the sheer amount of power investment required. It could end up taking a massive amount of time. If it helps, >>3798828
is right in that I see no reason why skirmishers wouldn't have Hit and Run.
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I should break out what this unit's stats are.

Skirmishers (4 base power)

Keywords: Athletics, Endurance, Fighting

Armor : 2 AR -1 AP base (3 AR -2 AP upgraded)
Melee dmg: Athletics base (Athletics +1 upgraded)
Ranged dmg (close range): Athletics base (Athletics +1 upgraded)

Yes, athletics for range damage too. I'm not going to use agility for throwing spears/axes when regular characters already (rightly so) use athletics.

So! Mechanically they do a point of damage less than regular infantry and use lighter armor, but have the same keywords and a ranged presence.
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>>3798873
>I was going to have to work something out for it, but there are examples in the rules of treating certain units of 20 as being as capable as the units of 100, representing their elite nature.
I meant to get clarification if that was the issue. I don't have any ideas on how to treat understrength Sparrowhawks pitted against a full unit either except for going by the rules. Unless they are converted into an elite unit. In that case however we have to figure out where to stick the remaining 80.

I would keep Sparrowhawks as they are as a unit, then
>As for Aodhan and the better lads from the Sparrowhawks, let them join the guard if they like (with a pay raise).
and invest in the guard.

>A big issue is with the sheer amount of power investment required.
That's 7 power for the base unit, right? It is not such gross difference with 5 for infantry. I believe we could raise enough money for the project.

>>3798884
I like skirmishers and they fit Cormaic's style of warfare, but I don't see how they would plug the current hole in our ability to hold our own in melee combat. We would just have two ranged units.
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>>3798889
>I meant to get clarification if that was the issue. I don't have any ideas on how to treat understrength Sparrowhawks pitted against a full unit either except for going by the rules. Unless they are converted into an elite unit. In that case however we have to figure out where to stick the remaining 80.

That was the biggest issue for me, yeah. As for the remaining 80, some would just find work in the new unit or find work on one of your projects you have spinning up. Some would simply retire. There's a generational component in play here with those from Barth and your father's generation becoming a little too old to fight well going forward.

7 power for a green unit of personal guards, but the majority wanted them to at least have some sort of ranged capability so the scout or guerrilla type was set to be mixed in for an extra 2. And that's just for a green unit, which honestly feels weird for a personal guard.

They plug a hole in that your biggest conventional threat right now is actually your fellow Clawmen, who typically run with smaller armies themselves, but still larger than your own. This is 100% known in character too. These people have been fighting each other over petty shit for thousands of years, only uniting to fuck up outsiders. You're hosting the lot of them in at the beginning of month IV. It's the middle of month 11 right now. If they show up and see you don't have shit that can soak a charge if need be... I'm not saying they'd be down to invade you just based on that, but I can't see them taking you as seriously at a negotiating table either. Skirmishers are effectively light infantry and are almost as sturdy as regular infantry. They can definitely eat a charge, but probably would get flattened by a more experienced or mounted unit. Not too terribly concerning considering your neighbors don't have any elite units after the war and aren't known for fielding cavalry at all.
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>>3798908
>but the majority wanted them to at least have some sort of ranged capability so the scout or guerrilla type was set to be mixed in for an extra 2
I don't recall any serious discussion. You are underscoring in no uncertain terms our lack of cqc capability, so that should convince other anons to consider getting a strong melee unit.

>And that's just for a green unit, which honestly feels weird for a personal guard.
Well, unit upgrade cost increments are the same across all units. The difference between a trained/veteran infantry and the same of personal guard would still be 2 power.

I understand that recruiting a real unit of personal guard presently is out of realistic scope. Thus getting skirmishers may be something logical. Still it is only 2 extra power and as for their greenness, it doesn't have to literally be inexperience. Call it lack of cohesion or tendency to lonewolf. We could outfit them to be more agile than your typical foot knights and nobody will mistake them for bodyguards.

Take our eager Sparrowhawk vets (and replenish their ranks with new blood), add some of the more financially motivated here at the capital especially considering the time when every loyalist is paying inordinate reparations, perhaps also a few of those who just like the idea of less than knightly action. And there is the unit.

What I am saying is that if we can get 5 power, we can get 7.

> If they show up and see you don't have shit that can soak a charge if need be...
Their surprise when they deem us weak and get countercharged by 20 good men.
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>>3798938
>I don't recall any serious discussion. You are underscoring in no uncertain terms our lack of cqc capability, so that should convince other anons to consider getting a strong melee unit.

This is a good point too and I'm more than willing to work with it. You could go with another unit type instead. Like I said, this was just the best middle ground I could come up with. The original unit that was destroyed at the Battle of the Bells was regular infantry. I put a "something else" option up just to see if we'd have other suggestions. I have to say, an actual personal guard unit with no talent for sneaking feels very weird for Cormaic's personal unit and is also an odd option for a conventional melee unit. Like, odd in the why would you do that sort of way, not odd as in innovative.

>as for their greenness, it doesn't have to literally be inexperience. Call it lack of cohesion or tendency to lonewolf.

Agreed. It's actually how I was intending to write the skirmishers who would have a solid core of war vets based on the explanation above. The same would likely apply to any alternate unit as well.

>Their surprise when they deem us weak and get countercharged by 20 good men.

I suppose there's nothing stopping you from luring them into a fight, but it's far from ideal. You could do a hell of a job bleeding them in the swamp with just your Sparrowhawks too, but there would be little stopping them from just sacking your hamlet.
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>>3798884
Yeah, I like them but not having stealth or a long range attack is a killer.

Paying 2 extra power for
>1 extra melee damage
>Stealth (and Awareness) as key abilities
>A long ranged attack
is just so worth it.
Close range means a range increment of just 10ft. That's pointless. If we're that close to the enemy we might as well just charge them (or expect to get charged - even with the Hit and Run ability).
With long-range (and it's 100ft range increment) they can sit back with the Sparrowhawks, both units raining arrows down on our foes as they slog across the battlefield towards us. They finally arrive, expecting to fight a soft unit of archers only to be countercharged by a perfectly competent (if lightly armoured) infantry unit.

>>3798938
>What I am saying is that if we can get 5 power, we can get 7
I agree ... but I think that should go towards a unit of Infantry+Scouts rather than Personal Guard. I just think stealth and a ranged attack are so much more useful to us than being slightly better in melee.

>To be fair, that's a lot of stats, making it OP.
Not really. As with any combat they still only start with a set amount of experience to invest in their key abilities, they just have more abilities to choose from. A point put into stealth is one not put into athletics or endurance.
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>>3799006
Oh and I'm for refluffing the Sparrowhawks as a '20 good men' unit. Like you say, it makes things easier for you and it makes sense in character. Especially if old Bronze Guard vets end up making the core of our 3rd unit.
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>>3799067
>Close range means a range increment of just 10ft.

20 yards for unit sized elements. 10 yards for individual characters. Using athletics instead of agility for damage is another advantage. It's not so bad with light armor and hit and run tactics. Lets you get a good throw in before getting stuck in a fight at the least. Or get a quick toss in at retreating or flanking horses.
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IDK the way I see it is if we are changing our Sparrowheads into a personal guard. We are taking the best 20 men. And the other 80 just fuck off? I feel like its a complete loss IC for any other unit we create they should be trained to some extent. But Mechanically I get where you are coming from entirely.
From our current elite special unit.
3(archers)+2(guerillas)+7(elite) = 12 Power

I like our current Unit as it stands. I would rather narratively we let go of the bottom 10% wether that includes vets from the bronze guard or not. As well as some/any from the bronze guard who wish to retire. And take in fresh blood to replace them. And drop our Unit down a peg on discipline. Till we get back up to elite.

And revisit the issue of the house fortune before our wedding.
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>>3799087
>20 yards for unit sized elements
Ah. Still, it's 200 yd for long range elements. The point still stands

>Using athletics instead of agility for damage is another advantage
Yeah, that's definitely true.
But in the end I don't think it's worth it.
When units can charge over a 100 yards being able to throw a spear 40 yards isn't often going to come into play. Even with the Hit and Run rules we'd be lucky to get off a single shot, rather than the several we'd likely end up with from bows.
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>>3799103
If we turn them into personalguard wouldnt they lose either marksmanship or stealth?
And adding a third option such as personal guards seems a bit expensive adding 6 power. And makes the unit in my opinion to well rounded.
Or say at best, we could do it so for a group of 20, add war hounds and it adds a dice. And I think that makes more sense narratively. Make the warhounds cost double?
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>>3799123
Or even just a bonus die. Added to fighting along with the +1. Seems like a huge hassle to figure out a middle ground. I am happy I am not a QM.lol
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>>3799103
> And the other 80 just fuck off?
They would find work in your expansion projects, join the new unit, replace a few Badgers, or simply retire because a good chunk like Barth are hovering around fifty years right now. That's getting into old age territory in this setting.

I'm not going to do a revote on altering your current units mechanically because that vote wasn't even close.
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>>3799118
And that's a good point as well. How about this? The Special type that I used as the basis for skirmishers includes the option for close range or long range. We can put which ranged style they use to a separate vote later on.

>>3799123
Nah I'm not talking about altering the Sparrowhawks at all mechanically. In fact, I won't consider it after the last vote to keep them intact. Just talking about using them as your personal guard in the narrative. It's your signature unit right now and the group you personally captain. All of the other personal guard discussion is about creating one as opposed to skirmishers or some other infantry variant.
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>>3799136
Replace endurance with stealth and you got yourself a deal.
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>>3799136
Alright, that being said I would be fine with that. The mechchanically stay as a unit it's just they're only 20 narratively.
I like this option. It makes pretty good sense with all of our sneaking and maneuvering.
I like our creations of small elite units. I would be fine with Creating a personal guard instead of infantry myself.
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>>3799006
>I have to say, an actual personal guard unit with no talent for sneaking feels very weird for Cormaic's personal unit and is also an odd option for a conventional melee unit. Like, odd in the why would you do that sort of way, not odd as in innovative.
I'm advocating a modified 'personal guard' that fits Cormaic's style.

>Athletics; Endurance; Fighting base stats
>Trade Endurance for Stealth

>>3799067
>I just think stealth and a ranged attack are so much more useful to us than being slightly better in melee.
Same as above.

>>3799123
Its about taking the best of Sparrowhawks to shape a new unit, not disband them or anything.

>Take our eager Sparrowhawk vets (and replenish their ranks with new blood), add some of the more financially motivated here at the capital especially considering the time when every loyalist is paying inordinate reparations, perhaps also a few of those who just like the idea of less than knightly action. And there is the unit.

>And adding a third option such as personal guards seems a bit expensive adding 6 power
Infantry cost is 5 power. Personal guard is 7.
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Replacing endurance almost entirely negates the purpose of forming a unit that can tank a hit. What I will do is offer an option alongside the ranged style vote to spend 1 extra power on the "stealthy" unit quality from Iron and Hate. It will give +3 to stealth rolls and take 3 off the DC for warfare tests for the ambush order. That should be just as good if not better for a green/trained unit anyway.
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Hey Boggs, I've got a few small bits of critisicm/questions here. I was going through Cormaics character sheet and I noticed that he didn't have any drawbacks. Is there a reason for this? I was under the impression that all adult character begin with one drawback. I also noticed he had a Combat Defense of 12, but his agility, athletics and awareness only ad up to 10? Just looking for some clarification I suppose.

Loving the quest though!

Personally I'm of a mind to just leave things as they are, and perhaps invest in a unit of plain jane infantry. Yesm theyre boring but when we host the other crackclaw houses, having 200 fighting men should be a fairly impressive show of force for such a small house. Of course where we're going to house these men is a bit of a problem but we can cross that bridge when we come to it.
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>>3799264
Oh he has the Threatening drawback. I just threw it under benefits. It just hasn't come up much because I'm not applying it to those who are close to him and he hasn't had many interactions with outsiders recently. It'll certainly be rearing its head in King's Landing though. The combat defense is also modified by his superior hatchet that he uses with his stiletto in place of a shield. Obviously that wouldn't help him in ranged combat. I'll add another line showing him as having 10 when using his bow, just to keep things clear.

>having 200 fighting men should be a fairly impressive show of force for such a small house
Don't forget the Badgers! They aren't much in a straight fight, but they are still 100 armed and uniformed men. Also, that reminds me that I did say you bought enough uniforms for a 3rd unit. I'll be sure to add in that quality.

>Of course where we're going to house these men is a bit of a problem but we can cross that bridge when we come to it.

I have a feeling you may be crossing that bridge very soon indeed. We may even get to it tonight.
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Ah okay that makes sense! I glanced over threatening as a drawback and assumed it was something to do with sinister. My bad. Looking forward to seeing how his flaws come into the picture once we get our swamp boi out of his swamp, and that explains the combat defense. I had just assumed that was his baseline combat defense.

I doubt I'll be able to participate tonight but looking forward to catching up!
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>>3799199
>What I will do is offer an option alongside the ranged style vote to spend 1 extra power on the "stealthy" unit quality from Iron and Hate. It will give +3 to stealth rolls and take 3 off the DC for warfare tests for the ambush order. That should be just as good if not better for a green/trained unit anyway.
This settles the vote for me. I'll let shekel-knight anons figure out how to produce that much wealth to convert to power.

>>3799264
>perhaps invest in a unit of plain jane infantry.
That was my thought too before I noted that the difference in power between units is slight. I assumed infantry was cheaper.
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I'm going to start posting a little early tonight so that I can leave the first vote up a little longer. I'd say it's an important one.

>Yes, but with a couple details to be voted on later when the 5 power goal is reached. Thanks for all of the ideas everyone. Nailing down a unit can be like pulling teeth, but it’s a lot more fun for me with good discussion.

Aodhan is still as a statue as he awaits your response. He sinks back in his chair in relief when you give him a nod. “I’ll have Ciara send a letter so Barth can get to work sorting out the details. They will replace the Bronzeguard we’ve lost, but we will sort out the details for their equipment once we have enough good men together to equip in the first place.”

“Easy enough, Ser. And what of their captain? You know I’m a Sparrowhawk through and through,” he says, anticipating the possibility, “Barth could maybe hold them over for now, but we all know he’s close to leaving his fighting days behind him. He won’t shut up about it after all.”

You drum your fingers on the arm of your chair in thought, “I have some ideas, but we will wait on them for now. I don’t want to send out an open recruitment call yet. I don’t know where we will stand with the other houses and won’t suffer a captain with dual loyalties.” In truth, you’re also of a mind to find another knight to lead the unit, but you don’t voice these desires yet.

“And the Sparrowhawks, Ser?”

“Start drilling them in the grove of trees behind the villa. The way I see it, I’m renting those too. Anyone who finds issue with that can come find me. If you’re convinced you can pull this off with twenty men then I’d like to see some proof,” you command.

“Aye Cormaic, you won’t be disappointed,” he says with a grin before leaving to gather the men together.
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The Red Terror makes her entrance next. She looks tired, as if she hasn’t been sleeping well.

“Ciara. To what do I owe this pleasant visit?”

“Your wife, Cormaic,” she says plainly, “I’m worried.”

“And here I was thinking this was about a new dress, My Queen of Love and Beauty,” you say slowly, prompting her to blush, “what has you so worried?”

“She wasn’t supposed to tell you about that,” she says with some annoyance, “I don’t need your teasing, this is serious!”

“We talk about everything. She can’t resist me,” you say with a shrug.

“So I’ve HEARD. You can’t quiet her at least a little? A gag even,” she stops there as your grin widens, “no. Stop giving me that stupid grin and listen. I’m worried FOR her. Cormaic, it isn’t normal for her to be feeling the effects of her condition this acutely. I’ve seen plenty of pregnant women and she has it among the worst of them.”

This gets you to sit up with a sinking feeling in your gut. You’ve never really paid much attention to birthing issues before. Ciara was born when you were little older than Esmeralda and you had no one else worth concerning yourself about. It’s not like you knew about Ynys’s condition until it was much too late. You assumed this was somewhat normal.

“What can I do?” You fight to keep at least some of the worry from your voice, but she can see right through it if her look of pity is any indication.

“I’m not a maester, but I would have her avoid too much travel at the least. Take it easy. She can probably handle King’s Landing well enough if you get her a litter. You should anyway as they are in fashion. But heading back to the Boggwood? Cormaic, she needs to wait until the baby is born. I know it’s a while off and it will make your tournament a little less lively, but I’m concerned for her safety and that of your child,” she says this with stone cold seriousness before adding, “keep her away from shellfish, too. She’s a glutton for them and they can make her sick. Especially if they are from these waters.”

This is a lot for even you to process. She’s always so lively, it’s hard to imagine her as being so delicate. She is rather slight of frame though… You know Ciara has a knack for this sort of thing, but this is a lot. What will you do?

>Make arrangements for her to stay down here for the duration of her pregnancy. She will miss your tourney in a few months’ time, leaving you to deal with diplomacy without her.
>Risk transporting her back to the Boggwood after your business in King’s Landing is concluded. This could be very risky, but you need her by your side.
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>>3799902
>>Make arrangements for her to stay down here for the duration of her pregnancy. She will miss your tourney in a few months’ time, leaving you to deal with diplomacy without her.
We don't know shit about babies.
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>>3799902
>Make arrangements for her to stay down here for the duration of her pregnancy. She will miss your tourney in a few months’ time, leaving you to deal with diplomacy without her.
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>>3799902
>We need a second opinion, hire a maester in Kings Landing.
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>>3799940
You can't, unfortunately. Such a great holding, but you need to hit 21 influence and status 4 first. Also, they are 10 wealth.
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>>3799902
Now that I think about it. Couldn't we arrange tournament near villa? Unorthodox I know. But people actually could arrive by a road.
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>>3799944
Can we ask maester IN THE Kings Landing for second opinion?
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>>3799945
Nope. You don't have access to enough land for it here and it would actually force your guests to travel much further even if you could.
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>>3799949
Another unfortunate no. Maybe if you were down in Old Town, but they don't exactly have maesters that aren't on retainer to other houses around here. You would also be risking having word spread of Atia's pregnancy and likely your marriage in advance of bending the knee.
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but can we go north of the wall and beat the night king in an arm wrestling constest?
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>>3799944
Not full time, just to check up on Atia.
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>>3799992
Perhaps you could arrange something along those lines after you make yourself known in King's Landing. You'll be around some fairly influential people. Right now? Not really an option unless you're willing to risk quite a lot on a second opinion. If it helps, Ciara's character sheet is up on the google drive. She has Healing 4 and the Miracle Worker benefit. She's being humble from her lack of formal training, but she's the next best thing after a full maester with some healing links in his chain.
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>>3799902
>Make arrangements for her to stay down here for the duration of her pregnancy. She will miss your tourney in a few months’ time, leaving you to deal with diplomacy without her.
Call for more more men to guard her, 20 go with us, 20 stay with her.
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>>3799902
>Make arrangements for her to stay down here for the duration of her pregnancy. She will miss your tourney in a few months’ time, leaving you to deal with diplomacy without her
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>>3799966
Nah but we could probably one shot a dragon bard style with our sick ass weirwood bow
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>>3799902
>Make arrangements for her to stay down here for the duration of her pregnancy. She will miss your tourney in a few months’ time, leaving you to deal with diplomacy without her.
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Whew. Okay, calling the vote and writing. I'm glad you chose to keep her down here. I really didn't want to roll for the outcome of her traveling back. That could've gotten very ugly. And yeah, she had some good rolls and some bad rolls for pregnancy/childbirth/child. This was the result of one of the bad rolls.
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>>3800008
>She has Healing 4 and the Miracle Worker benefit
Welp.
>Make arrangements for her to stay down here for the duration of her pregnancy. She will miss your tourney in a few months’ time, leaving you to deal with diplomacy without her.
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>>3800120
>The child is born black
>But Corm is the father while Atia isn't the mother
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“There is only one choice. My wife and my heir are more important than our neighbors. I’ll have to negotiate with them myself,” she actually winces at the thought before you continue, “perhaps I could arrange for her to stay here even after I head back for the tournament. I’ll also see about finding a maester to check in on her after we settle this farce at the turn of the year. Surely at least one house in that cesspool of a city doesn’t hate me. There should be enough time to increase her guard here as well, if need be,” you muse, “but I don’t own this villa. Actually, I don’t even know who does.”

She seems relieved you’re taking her seriously, but raises her eyebrows at your lack of information on the very manse you’re residing in. “It used to belong to House Hollard before the Defiance of Duskendale. The Crown likely holds the deed to it now, but you are better off asking Master Ryvas for more details. He’s the caretaker here.”

“That’s an odd name. Why does it seem so familiar?”

“I couldn’t say, Cormaic. Ryvas… like the Rykkers maybe? Although he does have a foreign look about him.”

You thank her for her help, you really should buy her a dress now, and set out to find this man to negotiate for a more extended stay. You find him playing with Esmeralda in the courtyard.

>Can I get 5d6 for Awareness (Notice)
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Rolled 5, 4, 2, 4, 2 = 17 (5d6)

>>3800143
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Rolled 5, 3, 2, 2, 4 = 16 (5d6)

>>3800143
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Rolled 4, 4, 3, 6, 1 = 18 (5d6)

>>3800143
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>>3800148
>>3800150
>>3800151
Okay, you only hit the first DC. Not a big surprise though. Let's see if you can put the rest together, shall we?

>Can I get 4d6 for Cunning?
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>>3800150
Varys?
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Rolled 1, 6, 5, 4 = 16 (4d6)

>>3800160
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Rolled 4, 6, 1, 5 = 16 (4d6)

>>3800160
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Rolled 6, 4, 5, 4 = 19 (4d6)

>>3800160
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>>3800161
Whaaat? The QM likes anagrams you say?
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>>3800174
Oh hey, that's higher than an 18. Looks like we have a winner!
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>Rolled 17 against DC 15, 24 for Awareness (Notice)
>Success 1 degree, Failed

You stare at the man. Plump and bald and jovial. Heartily laughing in a deep voice as Esmeralda adds sound effects to a dragon figurine she’s waving about. There’s nothing familiar about the man. He’s as you’d expect a caretaker of such a home to be, though perhaps a little boisterous. Though one detail does strike you as odd… she’s waving around the same figurines she had when you first met her.

>Rolled 19 vs DC 18 for Cunning (Memory)
>Success 1 degree

You don’t recall ever seeing them since that fateful day. And you also recall a certain cyphered letter. A game called Cyvasse. Atia had mentioned it is popular in the Free Cities and involves moving around figurines atop a board.

You marvel at the man, genuinely humbled. You don’t consider yourself to be easily fooled by mummer tricks like disguises, and yet here you are. You remember your encounter with the “merchant” quite well. This must be the same man, but everything is different. His scent, hair, skin tone, gait, even his fucking voice and personality. He could’ve stayed around sweeping the staircases of your tower and you would’ve been none the wiser.

He looks over to you as if only just now noticing your presence and sketches a sweeping bow before speaking in that same falsely boisterous voice, “Ser Cormaic Boggs, an honor.”

You nod hesitantly, “Master… Ryvas was it? May we speak privately.”

“But of course, Ser! Come, come. I’m sure we have much to discuss. Damn contracts, eh?” He pats your daughter on the head and leads you back to the office.

You close the door and he motions for you to take the chair behind the desk before sinking into a chair across from you as if he was seeking your audience. He lets out an oddly feminine sigh before saying, “appearances, you see. We wouldn’t want anyone walking in on us as if I was dictating anything to you, would we?”

>Continuing in a few, but if you guys have any questions you’d like to ask over the next couple of posts then by all means let me know.
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>>3800255
What involvement did you have with our .... firstborn? Were you the sole reason she was sent to me or was it that she was sent to successfully because of you? What involvement of her mothers house did they have, if any was it willingly or with... persuasion?

How did her mother die? Do not skimp on the details now. Surely you know.

Have you been to our house or have close friends and little birds that come by often?

Who else knows the full truth of her origin aside from me? Or, how many?

Will Atia be safe here?

Tell me about the new king and queen, are they "honorable and fair"?

Whom should I be wary of in kings landing, besides you of course?

What can we expect from the current hand of the king?

Tell me something you know that I thought no one else knows?

Would you care for a game of ches-Cyvasse?
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>>3800337
>Will Atia be safe here?
>Tell me about the new king and queen, are they "honorable and fair"?
>Whom should I be wary of in kings landing, besides you of course?
>What can we expect from the current hand of the 0?
These are probably the most important imo

I'd also ask
>Why he has been helping us, both with our daughter and with our expected fine
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>>3800255
>>3800337
>>3800351
Forgot to ask a question or two.

How did he first learn or discover about our daughter? Did he find out, or did someone tell him? Did he figure it out? And if so, how? We have never truly met before. I mean if he's seen our eyes before then put to and two together, that might be understandable.

How are our war reparations punishment compared to other houses like us?
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>>3800362
This anon nailed pretty much all the questions. I'm sure we will get a couple answers. Others we may owe him a favor or two as it stands.
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>>3800388
Woooo!
Two for two!
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“I’m sure you have questions for me,” he says genially.

You do, mostly half-formed with how quickly they enter your mind, but there are several that stick out. Puzzles you’ve been unable to piece together. And so you begin, “what is your connection to Esmeralda and Ynys?”

“Ynys… I would have called her a friend. You see, the Princess Elia approached me with her when it became apparent that she would not be able to hide her condition for much longer. You see, she was expected to marry into either House Martell or one of their direct banners. An olive branch to mend some of the damage done after the nasty business of the death of her father, the Lord Ormond Yronwood at the hands of Prince Oberyn. A child out of wedlock could have ruined their negotiations and Princess Elia dearly wanted to avoid more bloodshed. I had sympathy for her plight and was compelled to obey regardless. And so, I made arrangements for her to birth your daughter away from prying eyes, giving the excuse of wasting sickness to dissuade visitors. She was a clever woman and quite strong of spirit… I would say you may have a ‘type’, if you will, Ser Cormaic. I visited her periodically to perform my duties in ensuring everything was proceeding as expected, but I soon grew quite fond of our conversations, kindred spirits hiding their nature from the world. She and I spent quite a bit of time discussing the Realm and playing cyvasse. I must confess, she was quite good.”

This just brings you to more questions. You ask, “but why did you help her further? And why wouldn’t you bring Esmeralda to the Yronwoods instead?”

“I came to her as the gates were opened and the Lions were unleashed. I begged her to flee, but she insisted in staying in the Red Keep. Princess Elia’s court didn’t expect such savagery to be turned on them as well. Those that weren’t killed as the Lions entered the Holdfast ended up with their backs against the sea. They chose the path one may expect of the dornish. Her last request of me was to bring Esmeralda to you. She had already spoken to me of you on occasion, so this didn’t come as too much of a surprise. There are other forces at work in Dorne. She knew this perhaps better than I and wanted to spare her daughter from becoming another piece on an increasingly complex board. And so now I have a question of you, Ser, if you will permit it. What are your intentions with your daughter?” He sounds more protective than you would’ve expected at the end.

You see no reason not to answer him honestly, “I intend for her to never find her back to a wall with no means of defending herself. She will be tutored under Tyrra, my good-sister, in water dancing arts. We will have to see where that takes her later.”

You can’t help but feel his smile may be genuine for once. “Yes. We shall. I think she would have liked this… they do look so much alike.”

Cont.
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>>3800465
“I do have more questions as to the state of the current court---” he holds up a hand placatingly.

“My dear knight, as much as I would love to help you, you must understand. What I’ve told you thus far, aside from perhaps a small detail or two in my letter, was entirely personal. My loyalty is to the Realm first and foremost. It would not do for me to whisper gossip into your ears for your own personal benefit. No. If you would like my aid in a professional sense then I’m afraid I will require much and more from you in return.”

“Why me,” you ask.

“Oh, I’m sure you can see you are a logical choice even discounting our dear Esmeralda. Proximity, to be simplistic. Your ties across the Narrow Sea and your future ties to the Queen to be more specific. Moreover, it is so exceedingly rare to find a head of a household that has a knack and appreciation for subtlety. I believe you may have much to offer, if you are bold enough to serve the Realm.”

“What would be expected of me?”

“Oh, I wouldn’t want to spoil anything without a true commitment. I will require your oath first. Take the night to think it over. Until then…” He rummages through his robes and produces a roll of parchment, passing it across the table to you. A deed. To this very villa.

“My last free favor. It’s yours. The Crown has long since forgotten its ownership of it. Your lovely wife will be safe here, I assure you. This property has been in my care and mine alone. Even if we don’t enter into a more professional relationship, I do so enjoy my connections in Pentos and it’s only courteous to extend my hospitalities towards the daughter and future grandchild of Joro the Magnificent. Do give me an answer soon, Ser Cormaic. The Realm waits for no one," he says before exiting the room with a bow, leaving you alone with your thoughts.

>Acquired Townhouse holding. This has no mechanical benefits to you outside of the fact that there is enough space for you to keep a unit here. If you want it to be more useful for things such as hosting guests then you’re going to have to pump some wealth into it.
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>>3800512
And perfect timing! Right where I wanted to stop. Rare thing, that. This will be the last story post, but you can see where the overnight vote is coming in here. You may spend a Destiny point slot to pick up the Sponsor: Lord Varys Benefit. Yes, it isn’t just a simple yes/no to work with him. Such a relationship is a much larger commitment than that. I’ll freely admit that you will have one more opportunity to find a true sponsor in Queen Cersei, but the two are mutually exclusive. You can’t truly serve both of them. (The King became a nonoption after your decision to swear fealty to the Queen.) This also feeds into my desire to make more obscure destiny point options more interesting and worthwhile in ways that simple things like armor mastery could never be. Of course, you are more than welcome to turn him down. He will get over it. But a true sponsor, whether him or the Queen, is your real ticket to advance yourself beyond a simple Landed Knight. Doing so still won’t be easy but will at least be realistically possible.

So! Will you choose Lord Varys as your sponsor, tying your own fate with his?

>Yes
>No
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>>3800517
>>Yes
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>>3800517
No
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>>3800517
>No

The idea of swearing to some unknown person who has apparently been friendly with us, before we even meet the king and queen seems weird. Maybe later down the line but not right now.
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>>3800517
>>Yes
I think the benefits outweigh the cons.
I still would prefer to not swear to the queen instead.
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>>3800517
>>No
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>>3800517
>>Yes
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>>3800517
So we would have to burn a Destiny point to ally with Varys? Seems a bit expensive to be tied at the waist to the guy.
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>>3800517
>no
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>>3800517
>No
This doesnt mean that we will not work with him of course, just that we will not work for him.
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>>3800517
>Yes
Young griff, simple as
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>>Yes
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>>3800517
>>Yes
Not a fan of the queen desu but I do like Varys, this will make things very interesting
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>>3800517
>Yes
Working for the queen most likely will mean that we will work against Varys. This is something I would like to avoid.
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>>3800517
>So! Will you choose Lord Varys as your sponsor, tying your own fate with his?
I dunno man. I like him and I think it will provide an interesting hook for future plot development but it seems OOC to swear ourselves to someone so early on and a destiny point is a big investment.
Can you give us a couple of clues as to what direction swearing to Varys/the Queen might take the quest? Like vaguely what they'd want from us and what we'd gain from sinking a destiny point into it?

And even if we do choose Varys, I still want to swear ourselves to the queen. Not to the extent of her becoming a sponsor but just to stroke her ego and hopefully get a bit of political mileage out of it. I'd hate to think that the only way we can build up connections is through spending destiny points.
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Yes Samefags:
>>3800530
>>3800813
>>3801062
No samefags:
>>3800961
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>>3800517
>Yes
Most interesting choice I think
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>>3800139
>The child is born black
>But Corm is the father while Atia isn't the mother
inb4 she indeed bears a shadow of the Lord of Light

>>3800517
Tsheesh, all the one-post fags crawling out of the woodwork on important votes
No, I still aim for Cormaic to swear to the queen. Like anon here >>3801000 said, we are still not locked out of exchanging mutually beneficial services with Varys.
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>>3801111
>>3801125
just add this dude to the list
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>>3801140
To be fair this vote is a really big deal and lurkers do tend to come out for those
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>>3801151
sure bullshit
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>>3800868
I'd go as far as to call it a bit cheap. Same with Cersei. Same with a potential third option that would be a long way off. Sometimes I do worry I risk cheapening their sheer magnitude by including them in the ways I do. I'll need to do a better job expressing just how much of a power gap there is between you and these Realm level players. I suppose it doesn't help that there is an overfocus on them through the books/show as well. Makes them seem more human than their power would make them to those beneath them.

>>3801000
Actually, it mostly does. He isn't going to risk his plans with someone he can't be as sure as possible on.

>>3801102
>>3801131
You're swearing fealty to the Queen either way. It's just a question of whether it's a simple ego stroke that gets you out of bending the knee to the guy that you at least would hold responsible for dragging the Realm into war or if you are going to all in on carrying out her will in exchange for greater favor. I can't give specifics, but I'll do my best to generalize.

Varys will ask things of you that won't implicate the two of you as allies. He won't expect or even want you to seem subservient to him in any way where prying eyes can see. His favors for you would be less overt as well. Whether it's information or casual suggestions in the ears of those who think they hold the power as to granting you opportunities or boons. The villa was an example of that. Something that didn't tie him to you in any way that also serves a key purpose to him in giving him an easy place to meet you while also keeping you closer to court than you were. Consequentially, some of the things he will ask of you will require more subtlety as well. Getting close to a particular person, throwing a wrench in someone else's scheme. Things that an outsider would be more likely to think you're doing of your own volition rather than at Varys's direction.

Cersei, despite her musings to the contrary, is a very blunt creature. I don't mean to sound negative about this. There are obvious advantages to working for someone who has no issue showing you blatant favor. That said, some of the things she will ask of you will naturally come off as petty or cruel. A simple, perhaps more fun, example would be her demanding you enter some archery contest because she can't abide that damnable upjumped sellsword winning another event. A potentially less fun example would be the fact that Lannisters seem to really struggle solving issues with anything beyond gold and murder, regardless of who gets harmed in the process. Varys, for all of his flaws, and I do hope I've already conveyed at least one, truly detests harming innocents. Cersei... not a big concern for her.
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>>3801178
>Varys, for all of his flaws, and I do hope I've already conveyed at least one, truly detests harming innocents. Cersei... not a big concern for her.
With that in mind
>Varys
The Queen conflicts with our Just virtue, our wife's Merciful virtue and her family are resposible for the death of our first love. Varys on the other hand was the one who delivered our daughter to us.

IC we might think that we can swear ourselves to the queen but OOC we all know it'll become untenable soon enough.
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>>3800517
>No
I am just a lurker, scout's honour
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>>3800517
>>Yes
I'm loving how you're writing the spider Bogg.
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>>3800517
Hell yes
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yes
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>>3800517
>No
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>>3801178
Exactly what I was thinking.
He has come around to give us information that would help us. He has proved to already be of some use and if some small but of him favors us.
He out of character we also know the queen is flippant.
And Varys does not screw you over for petty reasons. But ofcourse if we work against him I can see him not granting us many opportunities till we gain back his favor. As we are not close to him yet.

IC I mean we could argue we still dont know if the reparations are actually real. But we know who he is, and the power he wields. Where our wife explained how good he is at his job.

This is a man, that negates having spies in obvious places. Something like who needs food, and has plenty of jewels for trade as well as a way to marry our sister up, and get a good trading partner out of it may be good.

With the spider on our side along with our father in law, dealing with Essosi should be easier. Just some thoughts.
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>>3801292
*We know out of charcter that the queen is flippant.

He is literally a living legend. The man is good at what he does. He knows things he should have no right knowing. He has people everywhere. And as we work with him. I am sure we will have the option of asking for information that directly puts us to gain power. Like a neighbor we have issues with sending a caravan out with units and their choice of road/swamp we can ambush.
As we gain more power we turn from a throw away pawn to a knight, and continue to grow in power alongside him.

This is our once chance, let's not fuck this up Anons.
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>no

For a couple of reasons, the first being Cersei herself. At the beginning of Roberts reign she is proud, haughty and what I can imagine is all levels of petty, but I don't believe that she is the same level of cruel that she will grow to be as we approach the era of the books. Additionally, I think playing through Cormaic realizing he made a mistake in the future and looking for a way out of the deal could be fun as hell.

>>3801292 makes a solid point about Varys being able to help with dealing with Atia's father and anything Essos related, but Cersei will likely be able to help us with things far closer to home. Imagine for instance that there is a dispute over some land, a tower, anything on the point as the cantankerous Clawlords love to fight over the smallest things. A raven to the queen could ensure we have the crowns support in our endeavors and would avoid repercussions from any expansion or any other disturbing of the Kings peace.
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>>3801111
Lurker, not samefag.
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>>3801318
So you dont believe Varys couldn't whisper in someone's ear that we would be better off winning that conflict via BS reason. Because we are tied to him.

Even IC we know Varys holds sway. We dont know if the queen will be at all useful till we meet her IC.
Again living legend vs something we dont knownhow active she will be. IC at least.

Now past that, OOC I dont want to spend a DP on her as. Sponsor.

I dont see how it's an issue. To have Vary's backing as well have hers. I wouldnt want to spend the DP on her at all. As we would be more compelled to do her bidding.
I honestly cant see how you're voting no, unless you're saying you'd rather have Cersie as a sponsor? And spend the DP there?
I also find this strange as she is the one we could likely have a 2nd or 3rd chance of having as a sponsor but the same is not true for Varys
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>>3801339
>So you dont believe Varys couldn't whisper in someone's ear that we would be better off winning that conflict via BS reason. Because we are tied to him.

Not in anyway near what Cersei would be able to manage. Varys is subtle, and his help isn't instant or overtly "powerful" in the traditional sense of the word. His help is what you make of it.

And as far as IC knowledge, I'm not sure Cormaic really even knows that much about Varys. We're a swamp boy who is out of his element right no. But even if he does know him, Cormaic absolutely knows the queen will be a powerful ally. The wife of the most powerful man in the seven kingdoms? Saying we wouldn't know she'd be a useful ally to have seems a bit far fetched to me.

Ideally, I agree with you there. We only have one destiny point and I'd ideally not spend it on Varys or Cersei's sponsorship, but if the choice is between the one of them, I would choose Cersei because as much of a cunt a she is in the books, she is an incredibly powerful ally to have so long as you pay her a certain amount of lip service.
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>>3801361
>And as far as IC knowledge, I'm not sure Cormaic really even knows that much about Varys. We're a swamp boy who is out of his element right no. But even if he does know him, Cormaic absolutely knows the queen will be a powerful ally. The wife of the most powerful man in the seven kingdoms? Saying we wouldn't know she'd be a useful ally to have seems a bit far fetched to me.

His wife Atia explained who the spider was. If I'm not wrong. And how much of a living legend he is.
Again paying her lip service will only do you so much when shes angry and some one who "didnt show her the proper respect she deserves" and asks us to go burn down a village.
And if we refuse even as a sponsor she knows who holds all the power. Like putting us down at a moment's notice infront of everyone. Or simply refusing to help on a glaring issue because we wouldnt help her with a petty problem recently or didnt accomplish it fast enough.

Varys has friends in many places. Things like knowing how many enemies we are up against. Or finding dirt on our enemies
if there is any to find would be child's work for for Varys. If he cant do it I doubt anyone could. It's more about having someone reliable who you can count on. And in my head Varys is the stronger contender.
He is the one we would likely not have a chance to ever get again. While the queen picks up allies and loses them just as quickly as she see's fit. Even with the spending of a DP I cant see OP changing that aspect of hers at all and her pettiness will screw us at one or many points.
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>>3801361
>I would choose Cersei because as much of a cunt a she is in the books, she is an incredibly powerful ally to have so long as you pay her a certain amount of lip service.
She will want more than lip service. She will want us to do things that will absolutely conflict with our virtue and that of our wife. It's not a relationship that will last.
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>>3801376
This along with Cersei actually listens to Varys whispers. She may not like him, but she listens to his gossiping. To keep her in our favor with out spending a dp.
Not gona lie had to call my girlfriend who read the books. To ask for advice on this. Makes me want to read the books so I can argue some points better. Lol
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Atia explained how he is basically a legend in Pentos and Cormaic should also know at least something of him from his time spent in the Crownlands before and just after he was knighted. The Spider served under the Mad King too.

But I do also agree it should be rather obvious in character that gaining the patronage of the Queen of the Seven Kingdoms would bring its own set of perks. There's a lot of meta knowledge that unfortunately leaks into votes like this. I'm not sure how relevant some of it is considering the books pick up over 14 years from now, but I guess I can at least chalk up in character to some hesitation towards getting in too deep with a Lannister after the Sack.
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>>3801375
Well that is the very nature of a sponsor, someone powerful who helps you along. And we live in a swamp as far away from the crown as possible in the crownlands. Sure she might call on us from now and again to help her solve some slight, but Cersei is 15 right now. A vindictive bitc sure, but a 15 year old girl. I doubt she'll be burning down villages quite so soon.

And once again, Cersei (and by extension Robert) have more friends in more (and higher) places. As a matter of fact, you could almost use Varys by proxy by asking Cersei certain questions. Where would she get her information from? Varys. Two birds for one stone. And Varys isn't all that "reliable". As evidenced by Eddard Stark, Tyrion Lannister etc. He might be on your side, but he isn't willing to prove it outside of the shadows. And Boggs seems to be implying we are going to have conflict at home soon, and in that matter I would infinitely prefer to have the Queens patronage than a spy master.

>>3801376
So we find ways around the task without conflicting with our virtue? Get the job done and problem solve.
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>>3801393
Yes the queen is the queen.
But especially if we are swearing fealty to her and her alone. Best believe we wont be starting on Robert's good side.
Having Varys is being preemptive to these things. While having Cersei is reactionary.
Knowing who is hitting you and why and when might be better than having your face kicked in only to be saved by the queen later.
Not like she is going to be loaning out troops and what not. I've no idea exactly how much power she will have and uses to her will this early on the throne. But we do know Varys has been at the top of his game for a while now.
Yeah, and I feel that IC with all this sneaking around he has made that obvious. He wont be willing to risk much especially this early. But he has a soft spot for us due to Ynys and her daughters time with him. Which is why we are likely even getting this opportunity.
I just believe long term Varys is clearly the better choice. And even short term he provides many benefits that it's a bargain to pick him up as a sponsor.

And with us swearing to Cersie, we could play up plenty of lip service. And Varys plays us up in her ear. We're getting a deal here. We get chances we otherwise shouldn't with Cersei's random throes and Varys recommending the small house that appealed to her as someone she could risk losing while feeding us the details we need to succeed.
And we've more leeway with the queen. But still retaining her favor.
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>>3801393
>He might be on your side, but he isn't willing to prove it outside of the shadows.

Yeah, this is mostly true. Though he will be probably be more helpful than he was with The Ned or Tyrion if for no other reason than that you are a more useful ally to him if your word begins to carry more weight. Their names already lent them weight so why throw them too many political bones?

>Boggs seems to be implying we are going to have conflict at home soon

This one I don't mind elaborating on at least a little. If anyone has followed House Malroy then you may remember there was a rare instance of a Crackclaw Point alliance forming to unite against the common threat of the Celtigars and their allies. You are going to have to work out what your role in such a dynamic is going to be, if any. It's also not that simple of an alliance. There are factions forming even at the start of it. Depending on how things go, you could eventually find yourself in conflict with your neighbors. Be it at sea or on land. Or you way avoid it all together. I really don't know how it's going to play out.
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>>3801419
would it be possible to have varys wait a litte? i want to see how cormaic's interaction with the queen goes, and how he perceives her in-character, and then try and make the call from there?
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>>3801389
>There's a lot of meta knowledge that unfortunately leaks into votes like this
Because talking about spending a DP is an inherently meta conversation. IC we could easily swear to both and trade service for their support until we get a bet idea of who they are. Voting to spend a dp on Varys on the basis of 2 meetings seems very premature, especially when we haven't met the queen yet.
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>>3801433
While I'm sure if we play our cards right for a while we may potwntially have another chance in the future. Why would you as Varys do it? You gave some one a chance after helping them with some business they had no right having. Then gave them some more info they wanted. And elaborated his family issues.
You then offer him a chance, and he shoots you down. Your whole life has ran on trust. It's either you can trust someone or you cant. In his business especially.
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>>3801433
>Take the night to think it over. Until then…

Nope! He's not looking for a mere opportunist. He's looking for someone that may come to share his convictions. Waiting to see what the Queen can grant you is effectively a "no" vote at this point in the quest.
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>>3801412
Except nobody is going around kicking your face in when they know your friends with the biggest bully on the playground no?

I look at it as terms of prestige, potential for wealth or an easier time getting loans, safety due to the crowns protection. We could likely have our child fostered in Kings Landing, Casterly Rock or some other suitably impressive place. There are alot more perks in my eyes (as well as cons, I'm well aware) to choosing Cersei as our sponsor.

>>3801419
To be honest, that seems kind of backwards to me. While in the position of spy master, having more people with political clout such as the hand of the king should make it more likely they are to receive boons, and larger boons at that, simply because the more you help them, the more they can help you. Why would you go out of your way or put yourself at risk for a literal who if he wasn't for the second most powerful man in the second kingdoms?

But I can see that I'm in the minority here and we'll likely be going with Varys, I just think it's a boring and less powerful option for our dealings in Westeros. If we travel to Essos, I imagine this choice will pay off immensely.
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>>3801449
>>3801447
can't say im happy about this but it makes sense. I'll vote >>3800512
>Yes
time for some spy missions
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>>3800517
>yes
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>>3801453
I think at best things are pretty even right now. But I havent really counted every vote.
We are right across from essos. Our options for more wealth come from our father in law. We dont really need either Varys or the queen.
But Varys has direct connections that would benefit both ourself and our father in law. With Varys we could likely gain allies with out them even knowing it was predetermined. Knowing people are in need of our say food. And they've plenty of items we could sell to our father in law or others across the sea.
With the alliance and Varys included will make for more intrestong times.
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>>3801453
>Except nobody is going around kicking your face in when they know your friends with the biggest bully on the playground no?

Yeah that does seem a little too ballsy even for Clawmen. Some will think of you as a bootlicker though.

And you're totally right about the added prestige of a Cersei route. As I said earlier, she is more likely to be overt with her favor.

It's more a matter of Cormaic being too insignificant of a player for his word to carry weight. Something Varys benefits from remedying to an extent. Funny thing about Varys. I can't recall a single moment when he ever directly asks them for help in the books. Perhaps I need to go back and binge his parts more, just to be sure. From what I remember, he does his best to guide them in the directions where he wants them and I would say he does stick his neck out for Tyrion a bit when it really matters. Trashes him in that clown show of a trial as it is expected of him and then helps him escape in the end.

>Fostering
Oof. Don't say they F word too loudly around Atia. That's going to require some careful explaining. It's not an Essosi thing at all.

>Travel to Essos
Oh man. I can't resist. Though I can see you getting dragged out there anyway because of the shit your good-father is stirring up.
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>>3800699
The way I see it, we swear to her out of a sense of misguided naivety and a bit of a snub to the king, but we quickly learn just how bad she is and start regretting it.

>>3801102
I wouldn't mind swearing to him later on when we search for new allies and support and learn more of the politics of the realm.

>>3801178
We've not met any lannisters yet. Only knwon some by reputation, but we don't hold her to the sins of her father or family. Yet.

>>3801292
>>3801316
Perhaps talk to our wife beforehand.

>>3801361
Varys might care more about us than the queen. Probably.
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>>3801449
Well shit, we can still try to juggle two sponsors while being more loyal to varys
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>>3801453
It would definitely be more interesting to go with the queen despite all the meta knowledge just to see and enjoy the ride.
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>>3800517
>No
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>>3801538
That's what I'm saying. But we know we wont have a chance like this again with Varys.
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>>3801648
I'd be more okay with swearing to Varys if maybe our wife can really convince us.

But I'd like to go on a journey before realizing we should have taken him as our sponsor at the start but we did not know him or enough about politics at the time, plus our desire to work with the queen.

Basically something like a redemption arc after siding with the queen.
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>>3801723
But I don't want to kill innocent women and children
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>>3801752
We probably won't......
First time she asks us to do that, we break with her and swear to Varys? Beg him to take us back!
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>>3801757
See:
>>3801449

We are talking about someone too good at playing the game to be weighed on a scale with a queen for which is more worthy of your time. And if Cersei figured out you were doing the same then you'd be through here too.

I really do appreciate you and Joe picking her for character development reasons and such though. It's not as if every vote should be to pick what can have the best possible outcome. Like I was kinda hoping you all would've at least gone shopping or looked around at the damages in Gulltown, but most chose to play it as safe as possible. The other options were obviously more fun even if they weren't perfect. Just a minor example, I guess.

Not that I'm saying Varys won't be fun! I at least think I have some very interesting things in store for you now. The only boring option would've been going back to sit in the swamp with no real sponsor at all. I honestly feel like I would've written myself into a corner and would've had to resort to time skips to keep things lively. There's only so much to do in your tiny chunk of land!
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>>3801787
Happy wife, happy life. More than what most people get in this setting.

I just don't "feel" it, picking Varys over the queen this early, for someone that he doesn't know all to well. So little time for the character to gain knowledge and explore more. It just doesn't seem to work or fit the character I imagine Cormaic to be. It feels like the wife thing, but with a bit more pressure and metagaming. sorry for bringing that up
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>>3801815
I disagree. With how I feel like Cormaic is, jumping back to our bug risk big reward. We dashed behind enemy lines on what was essentially a gut feeling. That we may come up big sneaking around and gobbling down plenty.
I see this in a similar way, we know we will win big, working with Varys. He is quite literally a living legend. We've just always have to maneuver so that we want the same things. So I totally see it in character.
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>>3801847
is he a living legend at the current year as well?
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>>3801847
That was a something that involved getting in and then getting out. No long term commitment or staying there longer than necessary. Its not the same as pledging yourself to a spymaster for as long as either of you two live. There is a permanent commitment required.
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>>3801815
I wanted it to be that way, so I'm glad you think so. It would've probably been one of the easiest votes of the quest if I let everything play out for a while before letting you choose. And it wasn't a sure thing for him bringing the offer up yet either. The successful rolls spurred that on. He was mildly impressed that you figured him out, even if that wasn't his best work. A basic fighter character would've almost surely botched them. Otherwise, you would've had to work a little harder.

>>3801847
I tend to agree with this too. Cormaic has a record of acting on instinct at this point.

>>3801851
Yup! He held the same position under the previous king and was recruited to it by the Mad King because of his reputation in Pentos.
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>>3801851
That's what we know right now. That's essentially how Atia described him to us ic.
He also had worked for the mad king as well. So he is not a nobody by any measure.
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>>3801859
He decided his sister's freedom to marry over a few bites at dinner. He also got betrothed himself after mere days and little actual conversation. I'd say those are some long term commitments.
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>>3801873
Well darn, I shouldn't have rolled that 19....

Not quit the same as jumping into all the politics and intrigue. One has fairly well known outcomes and known quantities, both for us and for the character with alot of NPCs that cane help in that regard. This is just us talking to Varys, whom only or wife knows much about and we only just met.

Perhaps our wife can convince us of this overnight.
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Right then. I think it's safe to call the vote for Varys at this point. Gives me a little time to start writing too.

>>3801906
I did kind of assume you'd be bringing her into this. I guess it's hard not to when you get a villa tossed your way. You'll be talking to her for sure.
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Can someone do a quick tally?
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>>3801318
>I think playing through Cormaic realizing he made a mistake in the future and looking for a way out of the deal could be fun as hell.
I'm late for presenting arguments on the case but this is exactly what I've been thinking myself as well.
It's more exciting and dramatic, while turning our sneaky killer knight into Varys' little bird isn't in my opinion.

If anything, I want to preserve the FP for something else.
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-1 ID post
L lurker
-2 Lp Probably a lurker.
Y
>>3800530-1
>>3800699
>>3800813-1
>>3801058
>>3801061-L
>>3801062-2 Lp
>>3801101
>>3801125-1
>>3801252
>>3801263-1
>>3801464-2 Lp
>>3801480

N
>>3800632
>>3800671 (Me)
>>3800719
>>3800961-1
>>3801000
>>3801207-1
>>3801318
>>3801591-1


This guy probably disqualifies himself?
>>3801264
>>3801266
2 posts only


Okay so even if there was samefagging, if only all the 1 ID posts for Y were samefag, and none of the N votes were not samefagging, then it would be tied 8-8
But thats unlikely unless all the lurkers somehow voted for one side and not the other.

Removing 1 ID posts and lurkers and probable lurkers still ties us at 5-5

So Yes wins either way barring the highly improbable.
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>>3801981
Dude my Ip changes all the time. so anyone who phone posts or uses hotspots are goin to be 1 IP voters.
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>>3801981
Screw you guys for messing with FP distribution of the character whose story I am invested in.
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>>3801981
I'd rather not get into samefag finger pointing unless things get really egregious. I've seen it turn certain quests into paranoid and toxic environments with constant shit flinging and calls for revotes. Not my kind of scene.
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>>3801986
Could you use a trip then please? It would save quests from such accusations from being thrown around.

>>3801995
Sorry, I'm not trying to. I'm just pointing out that even without 1IDs its clearly in favor of going with Varys. I don't mind going with Varys so long as there is a good plot reason or motivation for it, such as our wife convincing us overnight at our stay in the villa.
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>>3802001
>Could you use a trip then please? It would save quests from such accusations from being thrown around.
Advocating for NAMEFAGNG. What next!?
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>>3802001
It was more of a general statement on my part. Your post just reminded me of it, but I noticed it this morning and for at least one other vote in the last thread. I've been meaning to mention it anyway.
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>>3800530
>>3801412
Is me. Atleast I remember being the first-ish voter. I would have said something if someone counted the 2nd ID as a yes.
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>>3800517
>Yes

Although I wonder if he knows the shit we pulled at Gulltown.
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>>3802159
It'd be funny if he didn't know that and we just casually bring it up.

>"So I'm guessing you already know that I started the fire in Gulltown, right?"
>"Wait WHAT! That was you?!"
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>>3801995
>>3801986
Yeah, my IP jumps around at the most unpredictable times too.
And I'm posting from GMT+10 so often only get to throw in a single 'yes' or 'no' from work.
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>Yes

This is one of those decisions that you shouldn’t leap to on your own. It is going to affect your entire house and there is one person in particular who you’d be a fool to attempt to keep it from, especially with this deed in hand. Your wife. To your annoyance, you find yourself having to wait. She has managed to drag Ciara and Tyrra to your bathhouse and you’ve been barred from entering. You almost feel a twinge of sympathy for your sister. Almost. She’s not in any danger of being molested or anything. Atia has made it clear that she is only interested in you now and you’ve already heard Tyrra’s story from Atia as well. But she will be gawked at, at least a little. It’s almost a pity you didn’t remain noncommittal to her marriage prospects until after your tournament. Though you’ve studiously ignored it, she’s not the girl you remember from before you set off for war. She’s since filled out into a curvy hourglass figure that coupled with her flame-kissed hair is a Clawman’s dream. You could’ve damn near gotten a neighbor to bend the knee to you over her hand. You hope she knows what she’s doing with these tournament shenanigans…

So, you busy yourself trying to make sense of the cyvasse pieces with Esmeralda for a time. You don’t feel like you’ve made any real progress with it, but it’s at least amusing to watch your daughter make the pieces talk to each other and walk around. Varys has a point; she really does look a lot like Ynys. Eyes that appear blue or green depending on what she’s wearing and wavy honey-blonde hair. You’re in love with Atia, but you’d be lying if you denied that you sometimes felt some pain for what has been lost when you look at your daughter. All because of needless brutality from cravens that sat on their thumbs until the war was all but won. You still don’t think you’re getting the entire story there. It all seems too… clean. And yet Varys has skimmed over any true details twice now. Given his affection for her, you’re not sure you will end up getting that story any time soon. Still, he is likely your best source of answers outside of snatching random Lions and putting them on a rack until one yields suitable information. A tempting thought. You’re not one for wanton cruelty, but you won’t blanch from it like some haughty Seven worshipper either. Suffering for suffering is just another face of blood for blood to you. Just.

>Continued.
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>>3802267
And yet why not do things the easy way first? Here you have a member of the Small Council that seems to have a vested interest in at least one member of your family that is also offering some sort of patronage in exchange for your fealty. Such an offer doesn’t present itself every day, or even every lifetime for most. He’s given you no reason to completely trust him yet, but you suppose you haven’t done the same for him either. He’s plainly not the dark wizard you’ve heard rumors of either, just an extremely talented eunuch. You’re positive there are certain things about your recent activities that he isn’t fully aware of. You couldn’t help but detect a note of a certain almost playful smugness whenever he’s mentioned a bit of information about you that shouldn’t be known. You’re not so sure he could resist throwing Gulltown in your face if he truly knew of your involvement. A thought that brings you no small amount of satisfaction.

And speaking of satisfaction, the Ladies have finally grown weary of their lounging in the bathhouse. Villa life must be so taxing for them. You’ve been musing on the bed for the past half hour as some servant deals with the arduous task of attempting to feed Esmeralda. No small feat, you’re told, and also distinctly not your problem. You’ve better things to do than attempt to reason with an unruly two-year-old with a spoon in hand. You tried it once on one of her first days with you in some vain attempt at bonding before giving up and leaving Ciara to deal with the mess.

They exit the bathhouse into your connecting chambers clad in thin silk robes, talking amongst themselves about whatever it is womenfolk discuss. Atia sees you and breaks away from the trio to see why you’re turning over a piece of paper in your hand. You toss it to her, and she unfurls it, eyes widening after a quick skim as the other two women look on. “You bought me a villa,” she murmurs before abruptly dropping her robes to the floor, much to the shock of her companions.
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>>3802345
“You two should probably leave,” you drawl as you gaze at Atia, still glistening from the water, “or don’t. I don’t care anymore.” They scurry out and you find yourself inside your wife within moments, still half clothed in her haste. “Not… exactly,” you start as she begins to rock back in forth on top of you, finding her pace, “it was a gift, from Lord Varys.”

She pauses briefly, scrutinizing you to see if you’re simply teasing her, “Cormaic, tell me everything.” You do as she continues her ministrations at a languid pace. You’re content to enjoy yourself without overindulging quite yet as you recount the day’s events.

When you finish, the story at least, she pauses again to give her thoughts, “Darling. Flame of my heart. I so adore you for talking this over with me… but you should know I’m going to fuck you until you say yes,” she says almost breathlessly, “one of the most powerful men in your Kingdoms offers to work with you. You say yes. What other options are there? This queen? She may be the next Black Swan… or she may be some stupid girl playing pretend, wishing she had a proper cock between her legs instead of embracing what she truly is. Who knows? I hope for her sake she’s the former. But Varys? You know what he’s capable of. Take the sure thing. It’s a sounder investment.”

“I’m of a similar mind,” you confess, “but I’m glad you’re in agreement.” You flip her over, mounting her instead, and get down to more important business in earnest. The words that come out of this woman’s mouth would astonish you if you had a mind to truly care after such a tantalizing pace.

You lay half-awake later that night with your wife wrapped around you. She’s honestly like a furnace. You could sleep comfortably without sheets as long as she holds you tightly enough. You swear she’s somehow gotten warmer as her impending motherhood begins to creep upon her. You ponder what to do the next day.
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>>3802368
Varys will more than likely make himself known at some point tomorrow or the next day, that much he made plain to you, but you have other items on your agenda. For one, Esmeralda’s nameday is the day after tomorrow. You still haven’t gotten her a gift. You’re also starting to run low on funds. Taking the reparations payments into consideration, you have only five hundred dragons that aren’t tied up in other projects. There is at least one thing you can do to help remedy this. You have warhorses. You’d like to keep your Sparrowhawks functioning as a mounted unit, allowing them to function as escorts as well as maintaining their edge in mobility upon the battlefield. That said, it’s a bloody crime using well bred warhorses as glorified pack mules. You could sell your warhorses and replace them with quieter and more manageable palfreys. You aren’t exactly an expert in horse flesh, but even you know palfreys are probably a quarter of the price of the coursers you stole. You were at the Battle of the trident and saw firsthand what happened to the combined mounted vanguard of the Corwnlands and Dorne. An absolute slaughter on a scale you hope to never see again. Surely there must be some houses in the vicinity that are in desperate need to replenish their ranks, provided such an event didn’t destroy their taste for mounted combat entirely. If you’re going to head to a market to look for a gift anyhow then you could look for a buyer for your horses.

Which market will you head to?
>Duskendale
>King's Landing

Sell your spare warhorses while retaining the mounted quality for the Sparrowhawks? (They had the potential to give you a 2 power discount on an actual cavalry unit, but it seems very unlikely that you'll form one any time soon, if ever). Actual wealth value will depend on bargaining rolls.

>Yes
>No
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>>3802376
>Duskendale
We're going to KL anyways, we can check both places. We can swing back on the way home.

>No
The horses fit as a set with our suit of armor and wife.
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So are we still going to swear to the Queen?
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>>3802376
>Duskendale
>no
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>>3802384
>The horses fit as a set with our suit of armor and wife.
I'm not what you mean by this. You wouldn't be selling your own two personal horses. You'd only be selling the warhorses you stole and replacing them with regular horses that are much cheaper.

>>3802394
Yup! Still on to make that your condition for bending the knee. The vote was to swear true allegiance to Varys, not to retcon the Queen vote from a previous thread.
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>>3802376
>Duskendale
>no
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>>3802403
Well, I feel like its lost its novelty. May as well try to save the king and prevent him from getting boared from hunting.

Won't Varys think we are trying to play both side by swearing to the Queen, or will we tell him before hand? It seems like swearing to the king is the more attractive option now, and fairly easy to rationalize due to the interactions with Varys and our wife.
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>>3802376
>>Duskendale
>no
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>>3802376
>>Duskendale
>>no
We're gonna have the prettiest and most overqualified pack mules in the Claw.
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>>3802403
Didn't we get a bunch of regular pack mules when we took out the camp followers and stole their stuff?
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>>3802447
He's already figured it out. Bobby B is getting his tusk either way. Anyone can figure out what the King is up to. He's not exactly subtle. But a non-Lannister that can pick up on things going on around the Queen? At least somewhat more valuable.

That doesn't mean Varys won't have some ideas for how you can be positioned near the King anyway.

>>3802481
Looks that way. For the life of me I don't know why.
>>3802485
And perhaps I just found the reason. You stole 100 horses. 40 of them were warhorses (a full unit's worth since knights typically have two each)… enough of the remainder would qualify as suitable riding horses for 20 men...

As baffling as it is, I'm now somewhat glad I didn't just drag you into buying cheap replacement horses you didn't need. My bad. Should've kept better track of that. I still don't know what you're doing with these warhorses. Maybe I've figured out my overnight vote a little early. Anyway, writing for Duskendale and keeping the horses.
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>>3802376
>Duskendale
>Yes

>>3802384
>>3802406
>>3802458
>>3802481
>>3802400
WHY DO YOU GUYS WANT TO KEEP THE HORSES?
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>>3802535
Mr. Hands.
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>>3802535
WE ARE BUYING BOATS NEXT WE AREN'T INVESTING IN CAV OR HORSE BASE HOLDING. SO WHY THE FUCK WE ARE NOT SELLING THEM?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
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>Duskendale
>No

You could head into King’s Landing. They would have the widest selection of goods available and showing up without your wife on your arm has no real downside, but there’s nothing wrong with a casual day trip to Duskendale either. You ultimately decide to hold off on dealing with matters of horse flesh and leave the majority of your men to guard the manse. Your Lady wife is in more need of protection than you are. The nearby Rosby Road makes such a journey go relatively smoothly, but you still don’t find yourself arriving until close to nightfall even after an early rise with four of your Sparrowhawks. That even the “nearby” trading town is so far from your villa truly underscores how far removed you were from the center of things at the tip of Crackclaw Point. It’s frustrating that you misjudged the distance, but the market here generates enough traffic to stay open even a bit after dusk. You still have time to make your gift purchase after all, but you have a feeling your party is going to be exhausted by tomorrow. You suppose you've all dealt with worse.

What are you looking to purchase for your daughter? (and anyone else while you’re already here)
>Write-in
I remember the one anon who had input for a gift last thread suggested a necklace with an emerald. A neat idea considering the meaning of her name, but a necklace may not be the most ideal gift given her age.
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>>3802543
I've no idea about others. But I like the idea of having horses for the house. For narratively having a units worth of horses for either our support or the sparrow heads to move around.
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>>3800517
>yes

How can we tell our wife we won't hurt innocents and then seriously pledge to the queen and he house of back stabbers.

Even if our knowledge of Cersei is OOC, at keast varys has helped us unlike the queen
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>>3802613
Yeah, but you were going to have enough horses to allow the Sparrowhawks to mount up anyway. The only reason to keep them was to more cheaply afford an actual cavalry unit.
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>>3802611
Maybe a puppy? Then it can grow up with her and be a guard/companion.
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>>3802611
She’s two. We get her a toy. Something simple but fit for *Our* daughter. She liked the dragons from the Cyvasse board right? We get her a toy dragon.
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>>3802611
> Animal, puppy to play with etc
> Box of wooden figurines man at arms, archers, knights, horses, wagons. We can always borrow them for strategizing.
> Book for nobleman children on they way to start lerning reading (totally not for us)
>Clothes accesories? Clothes accesories. Scarfs etc (We shuld buy something in department of clothes for our Red Terror)

I can't decide what to buy in the end so let's be big spender. Also scene where our women are trying to pick one thing, while we are coming back balancing this pile of thing and keaping puppy from escaping would be graeat.
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>>3802630
>>3802653
>>3802665
I'm going to go with a combination of all of these things. Except for getting a dress for Ciara. Already wrote you setting off without her and she would need to be fitted properly especially with those curves .
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You end up picking up two gifts for Esmeralda. One for this nameday and the other for the one you missed. There are some dragon figurines carved from gemstones at one stall. You even manage to find one at the back that’s carved from emerald. Remembering how she enjoyed making the cyvasse pieces talk to eachother, you end up purchasing two of the more common purple ones along with your emerald find. A fine price too considering the material. Apparently, dragons aren’t as popular as they used to be. The second gift is a small puppy. Some sort of blood hound, you’re told. Children love small animals, you think, and a younger dog like this one will grow with her. At least it will be easy to transport for now. You make it back by mid-day the next day after riding for a good part of the night. Your four bodyguards waste no time in finding their beds, but your first priority is to find your daughter. You’ll make sure they get a better meal than usual and will supply some mead for their table tonight.

She may not completely understand what’s going on, but it’s only right to try to make the day special. You should properly take responsibility for your newfound role as a father. Getting used to it now will only make things easier later when there are more children about. Your gifts go over quite well and earn you some appreciative looks from the family you have present. It’s amusing to watch Esmeralda try to carry all of the dragons at the same time. Then she sees the puppy and makes you glad the figurines are made of solid stone and that she’s still so low to the ground as they’re dropped and forgotten for the moment. She ends up giggling and chasing the energetic pup about the courtyard until they’re both tired out.

It looks as if the villa’s “caretaker” has shown up as well. He gives Esmeralda a bag of sweet candied treats made of honey and fruits, much to her delight after she tries one. You slink off with your new patron as the women try to stop the dog from running off with the bag of sweets that Esmeralda immediately offered to it.

>Continued with Varys in a few min
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>>3802611
A pair of dolls, and some colorful wooden carving little figurines that include a horse. A book for her to draw on so she doesn't draw on the walls, and a touch of donnish with a dress in the same style from that area to keep her moms memory close.
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>>3802741
He begins shortly after you reach the privacy of your office, “Ser Cormaic. I suspect you may have an answer for me?”

You nod. “I would gladly accept your offer of a more professional relationship, Lord Varys, as would my wife,” you add.

He smiles, pleased with your response, “a wise choice and one that I hope will prove as fruitful to us both as I’ve suspected. Of course, you must keep this between us and your Lady wife only. She is a clever girl and seems to truly love you, so I’m obliged to accept her involvement, but widening the circle further would only serve to jeopardize our working relationship.”

Well you’re glad there isn’t an issue there, it wasn’t a topic the two of you discussed before his departure. Keeping this from the other members of your family may prove to be somewhat of a nuisance, but you’ve been developing a record of secret keeping from the rest of them as of late. “That shouldn’t be a problem. I suspect you may know more of my secrets than the rest of my family does at this point. They trust me to guide the house in the right direction and ask few questions otherwise. And you may also know that I’m not so trusting. How is it exactly that you’ve come to know so much of my plans? I haven’t exactly shouted my plans to swear to the Queen from the rooftops.”

He smiles thinly, “not quite from the rooftops, but close enough. If you are concerned with more spies in your rather small tower, then worry not. I merely lurked about for that little victory feast and pep talk you gave your men. I did not know you beyond what Ynys has reminisced and wasn’t keen on risking leaving the girl with the wrong sort of man without seeing how you would react after my apparent departure. Thankfully, you didn’t disappoint, and I was also treated to your boast of swearing to a new queen in your Old Way for my troubles. For what it’s worth, I approve. You will be far more usefully placed if you are included in whatever schemes she may manage to get herself into. In comparison, our King Robert is a far from subtle creature.”

“I’m… glad you approve,” you manage, “how do you expect this to be received?”
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>>3802868
“We can’t have you risking a slight against the King or his Hand. It could appear almost defiant coupled with your previously unknown wife looking so… Targaryen. I should be able to minimize the damage there. I will report on your intentions to our Lord Hand as if my little birds told me.” He grimaces slightly before continuing, “as detestable as involving him may be, Grand Maester Pycelle would be glad to verify your house’s previous history of swearing to queens. Anything to please a Lannister… that should be enough for the Hand. He is a traditional sort and will assuage any suspicions King Robert may have. Of course, I will need to mention your recent marriage. No one will believe I missed the larger detail here, especially given my known connections to Pentos. I simply ask you to trust me in this. Your reparations won’t be altered. The Hand and the interim Master of Coin are not exactly on speaking terms. The Master of Coin is as of yet unconfirmed to his position until his reparations scheme is proven to be effective… though I suspect that wasn’t even his idea. I’m afraid the Lord Gyles Arryn does not hold you in high esteem. He argued for harsher terms due to your sack of his camp, but the Hand rejected him increasing the tally beyond the standard fare for one of your station after receiving Lord Roland Waynwood’s letter regarding your honorable treatment of noble prisoners in accordance to their station.

“Gyles. You said his name is Gyles?” You say, the warmth leaving your voice entirely.

For his part, Varys looks slightly disturbed by your sudden transformation, “Yes… Lord Gyles Arryn, head of the cadet branch of the Gulltown Arryn’s. Are you well, Ser?”

You give him an accounting of the events that transpired involving spies and an assassin and later receiving Gyles’ name from Pate. He had known of some sort of incident just because of the chain reaction it set off across the narrow sea. Sorrowful Men and the killing of Magisters can provoke significant ripple effects. You suppose that’s the point.

You get to your involvement in Gulltown and he reactions with genuine surprise, “I would say that was ill done, Ser, and yet there hasn’t been so much of a whisper of your name in all of that chaos. Going forward, please do inform me before you go torching important cities. I’m sure we can work out more agreeable solutions than that... This still does present a useful opportunity. If I am able to implicate Lord Gyles in further scheming, then the Hand would finally have due cause to replace his erstwhile cousin with someone more palatable. Perhaps one of his clerks may serve until such a time.”

He leaves shortly after, promising to pay you a visit in the coming weeks to discuss future endeavors, leaving you to seek out the comfort of your bed at last.
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>>3802628
Gona be honest, I was hosting dinner and skimmed. I now realize once I've had enough time to read that was not the choice I would have made.
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>>3802954
>Gulltown
Awe, we told him about that. Did we mention we partly did it to to appease a fire god that the previous king worshiped, and was disposed of for borderline Pyromania?

I was hoping to enjoy his reaction a bit more in detail.
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Okay, that’s it for the night! I’ve been waiting to drop that info! So you’re already starting to see a little of what Varys can do for you as your Sponsor. Knowledge is power, right? Your swearing in will go a touch more smoothly than it would’ve without him and he will be able to keep one of your biggest detractors away from a Small Council seat. Granted, that does help several other people as much as it helps you, if not more so.

I’m going to be busy tomorrow night so the next story post will be on Monday night at 7:30 EST, but there is one glaring issue from tonight that I’d like to get settled before then.

These warhorses. I should break this down further for those that just honestly don’t care much for the crunch behind it. And that’s fine, by the way, but keeping them as mounts for a non-cavalry unit is a complete waste of resources. Perhaps people have simply gotten comfortable with how well off we were right after the marriage and with the ransom money, but I can’t stress enough just how slow your resources are going to trickle in over the coming months. You’ll start seeing returns on your investments in about 8 months, but you can use all of the wealth you can get until then. Right now, you have barely a little more than 2 wealth available. You can do just about nothing with that at a house actions level. This is now the second time the majority has voted to keep the warhorses around doing nothing instead of selling them for a much-needed 2 wealth (you could’ve even swung that to 3 with good bargaining rolls this time). There won’t be a third opportunity to sell them any time in the near future because I’m just not that big on having yet another revote.

There is still a silver lining here. As I’ve stated before, having the warhorses on hand grants a 2 power discount on the purchase of one cavalry unit. Looking things over, this actually makes purchasing a cavalry type unit cheaper than purchasing a skirmisher unit. In an effort to allow you guys to maximize the use of your resources, I’ll allow you to vote to use these warhorses to form a light cavalry unit instead of a skirmisher unit. Not a heavy cavalry unit, not horse archers, but light cavalry. Light cavalry can still take a decent hit and put out some damage and have the added bonus of having a ranged component (close range, but still great with hit and run on a horse). Basically, mounted skirmishers. I’d really like to keep this as an “either or” vote considering the skirmishers had already been given the go-ahead otherwise.

So! What will it be?

>Green Skirmishers for 5 power
>Green Light Cavalry for 4 power
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>>3803081
>>Green Skirmishers for 5 power
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>>3803081
I assume the light cav don't have stealth?
Would we have the option to upgrade them with scout training in the future for 2 power to get long-range and stealth? I think those are really important in our army
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>>3803159
Long range won't be an option. That would make them horse archers. That's not a realistic tactic for this house. I would still allow the purchase of the unit quality referenced here >>3799199
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>>3803081
>Knowledge is power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pvlylkpv6A
Maybe.

>Green Light Cavalry for 4 power

>>3803191
What if after the reparations we offer to sell the horses back to the lords we took em from? Would they offer a better price for their own mounts back?
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>>3803081
>>Green Skirmishers for 5 power
Close range is trash. Skirmishers all the way.
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>>3803081
>Green Skirmishers for 5 power
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>>3802535
>WHY DO YOU GUYS WANT TO KEEP THE HORSES?
Just shows that a clueless majority that has no direction decides where the quest goes.
You think its a singular case? Think randumb prisoner execution choice. Then avoiding getting gifts and checking the aftermath of our raid. Then all the senseless money waste on bling equipment when we only nearly had enough to cover reparations.
Yeah I am bitter about the Varys part and expected Joe's well-put reasoning to turn the tables. The quest doesn't seem as fun in perspective now.
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>>3803081
>>Green Skirmishers for 5 power
>>Green Light Cavalry for 4 power
Neither.
Where are the personal guard or infantry options?

>need a unit to hold the line and to keep Sparrowhawks from getting slaughtered in melee if need be
>vote between a light hit-and-run unit that can't take a hit and a light cavalry that isn't even that practical in the swamp and can't hold the ground against another melee unit
Yeah, fuck this.
Sell the horses, you tards, and don't waste the power.
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>>3803454
>Think randumb prisoner execution choice.
I liked it. This execution would be great for character development. If it was consistent. But no reatards decided to burn a fucking town down because they send spies. But you know we are wrathful. So that means we can ignore our virtue even if we have DAYS to calm down.
>Then avoiding getting gifts and checking the aftermath of our raid.
This was in my opinion right decision. Why should we walk around the city? Keep your dumbass low and get the fuck out was, definitely right choice.
>Then all the senseless money waste on bling equipment when we only nearly had enough to cover reparations.
But we look dapper tho. And to be honest I voted to buy it we had enough cash we can afford it.
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>>3803460
>Where are the personal guard or infantry options?
Yeah, I still want those cross-trained Infantry+Scouts. Fuck cavalry in a swamp, and fuck anyone who can't sneak with the sparrowhawks.
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>>3803256
That vote has already passed. You decided to keep them instead of sending them back for more gold with the prisoners. I don't know why.

>>3803454
I agree with you on Gulltown. The whole thing was a low point for me, to be honest.

The Varys vote, I'd give that more of a chance. I personally think I may have even more interesting ideas for that than I did for Cersei. He has some plans for you that may prove to be excellent motivators for character direction. I also really liked Joe's take on it though. The good news is you'll still see at least some Cersei stuff.

>>3803460
I get not wanting horses. Especially when they're useless on your future ships. Which you will be using, one way or another. Whoever came up with the name for the Sparrowhawks is a genius. Did you all know the Iron Fleet has a ship called the Sparrowhawk? I just stumbled upon it two days ago. The way is see it, they either did extremely well or got slaughtered during the Greyjoy Rebellion to get an Ironborn ship named after them.

The names are practically misnomers though. Skirmishers can potentially take hits just as well as infantry and light cavalry would be endurance 4, the same as regular cavalry. It's not like their mounts change. The only difference from a tanking perspective is lighter armor which increases the chance of an opponent failing their DC anyway. They do slightly less melee damage though.
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>>3803532
I thought we were getting free horses and it didn't seem like they were offering anything but gratitude for the horses back.

Well if we bump into him we can try to extend the offer to him.
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>>3803081
>Green Skirmishers for 5 power
Sell the horses
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>>3803081

>Green Skirmishers for 5 power

I honestly do not see any need for having cavalry in our swamp, especially since we want to start building ships
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>>3803081
>>Green Skirmishers for 5 power
Then reluctantly sell the horses.
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Okay, I'm going to go ahead and have you sell the horses with Atia soon. It looks like it just wasn't thought through. I'm not putting it to a vote again. Just rev up those bargaining dice. And since I'm not running tonight, I'm going to go ahead and put the loadout vote for your upcoming green infantry/skirmishers unit. That way it doesn't slow down the story later. There will be 3 options. At this point it's safe to say you will invest in the Stealthy quality when you get an extra 1 power to spend, so I won't muddy the vote with it now. I'm going to break them out so there is no confusion. The power costs are the same for all 3 and all 3 are using the Athletics, Endurance, and Fighting keywords. Please don't ask me to add more options to the list or modify what is here. These are all reasonable, balanced choices and any one of them will suit you well.

Option 1:
>Regular Infantry loadout
Armor: Hard Leather (3 AR -2 AP), may upgrade later to Mail (4 AR -2 AP, 1 Bulk)
Melee Damage: Athletics +1, may upgrade to Athletics +2 later
Ranged Damage: none

Option 2:
>Close Skirmishers loadout
Armor: Soft Leather (2 AR, -1 AP), may upgrade later to Hard Leather (3 AR -2 AP)
Melee Damage: Athletics +0, may upgrade later to Athletics +1
Ranged Damage: Close Range, Athletics +0, may upgrade later to Athletics +1
Qualities: Hit and Run

Option 3:
>Long Skirmishers loadout
Armor: Soft Leather (2 AR, -1 AP), may upgrade later to Hard Leather (3 AR -2 AP)
Melee Damage: Athletics +0, may upgrade later to Athletics +1
Ranged Damage: Long Range, Agility +0, may upgrade later to Agility +1

All 3 have their merits. Option 1 hits a little harder and has stronger armor. Option 2 has the highest damaging ranged attack (because Athletics will be able to be increased) as well as hit and run. Option 3 has a longer ranged attack, but the damage is capped due to a lack of a way to upgrade Agility. Neither 2 or 3 is intended to use marksmanship as a primary mode of attack.

The vote will be open until tomorrow.
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>>3803701
Option 3
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>>3803701
>Option 2:
I just love units that throws spears and axes
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>>3803701
>Option 2
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>>3803701
>Option 2:
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>>3803701
>Option 2:
>>Close Skirmishers loadout
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>>3803701
>Option 2
I am just not sure if I would give them a quality this quickly off the bat.
I love it but not sure if handing out qualities when they are created. Or before at least veteran.
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>>3804995
Hmm, that's a good point. It was more to compensate for the fact that Close Range really needs some work to be a palatable option. I didn't give it to the long range option because it felt like it would be a little clumsy for a unit to dart in and out with bows and quivers on their backs. But you're right, I did hold off on giving things to the Sparrowhawks until they hit Elite.
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>>3804995
>>3803889
>>3803879
>>3803849
>>3803730
Come on guys, do you get how useless Close Range is?
It's a range increment of 20ft, you can maybe score a hit at 40ft but you'll be rolling to beat the enemies CD with 1 die.
Any infantry unit has a base movement of 40ft and can charge 160ft. The only way we'll get a even a single volley of spears off is if Boggs lets us ready an action to throw as they're charge towards us (which means we're giving up the advantage of charge). Even with Hit and Run we don't have any realistic chance of staying out of engagement range.

With bows we can defend fixed positions, force enemy units to advance towards us under a hail of fire or snipe and avoid elite melee units that would destroy us if they caught us.
All Close Range does is allow one volley of shitty ranged attacks in the first round of combat.
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>>3805245
STOP LIKING WHAT I LIKE
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>>3805245
>which means we're giving up the advantage of charge

Depending on how good your unit is, charging can be a disadvantage or an advantage. You take a -1D to fighting tests when full on charging. It's what allowed the Sparrowhawks to eat a charge from the Waynwood elite personal guard unit in the first thread. The -1D from charging coupled with their penalties from being disorganized was enough to make it so that they didn't have enough test dice to even beat the Sparrowhawks' combat defense. I fluffed it up as them dog piling the hapless knights and subduing them as a result. A good enough throw before a charge can produce similar results. There are some brutal real world examples of heavier infantry charging a line of screening skirmishers only to find their lines crumble from getting hit with a nasty volley of throwing spears. You can also throw to your heart's content if you're behind a barrier, same with shooting a bow though. Makes storming your tower very unappealing.

Now why not look at the long range option? There are plenty of advantages to longer range. The potential for multiple attacks being chief amongst them. The problem with equipping a non-dedicated unit with long range weapons is that they're useless against heavy armor. 2 or 3 base damage doesn't lend itself well to getting through armor. Of course, the ambush order adds 2 damage and the Badgers' prep work adds 1, so you could be looking at 6 damage with the possibility of hitting 9 from a good roll. Still falls short against the heavier units, while the close range option still has a chance of cracking through, but anything lighter should still fear it. You only need to inflict 1 point of damage on a disorganized unit to rout it, for example. I can see a long range option filling a nice role in finishing off a unit that is close to breaking or attempting to retreat beyond close melee range.
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>>3803701
Option 1
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>>3796703
>Inb4 our kid looks like Geralt of Rivia
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But seriously, Valyrian + Our Special eyes means our son is going to be one intimidating motherfucker
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>>3806354
I'll admit the results did get me excited about doing a sequel later on during the 5 kings era.

>Close Skirmishers

You awake to light creeping into your chambers. You vaguely recall that Atia has already come and gone from your bed. Perhaps you were more exhausted than you had known. As you lay in the bed, slowly waking up, your mind turns to the tumultuous, and occasionally painstaking, task of evaluating the order of battle of your forces. You must admit, it is tempting to form a company of men to simply act as a bulwark for your Sparrowhawks, but in the end you think Aodhan has the right of it. The new Bronzeguard should incorporate lessons learned from the disaster that befell the old. No more standing to fight in ordered lines. That got your father and the bulk of his men killed. Your new infantry will be more adept at skirmishing tactics. You will require they be able to hold the line well enough if need be, but you also expect them to be able to surprise the enemy on occasion. A volley of spears and axes before a charge could produce some spectacular results. You’re eager to put the theory to the test.

And there’s more to it than that… you feel as if your newfound partnership with Lord Varys may be keeping you away from your land for extended periods of time. When possible, your Sparrowhawks will accompany you as well. This leaves the defense of your lands from your fickle neighbors, Dragonspawn and Clawmen alike, solely to your Badgers and Bronzeguard. Considering the Badgers are shit in a straight fight, this means your Bronzeguard will need to carry out the of the bulk of the responsibilities of patrolling your lands and, if need be, repelling interlopers. You’re uncomfortable with leaving such a task to anything less than a well-rounded, self-sufficient unit. A task in which they will need to begin to take responsibility for as soon as possible. You’re already finding yourself split between defending your ancestral lands and ensuring loftier goals may be met. It’s leaving you dangerously vulnerable and you won’t truly rest easy until you can be assured that your standing army is capable of mounting more than a token defense in your absence.
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>>3806746
You hope Barth is making suitable progress on restructuring and recruiting. You’d never admit it because he likely wouldn’t shut up about it, but he’s been like a second father to you in many ways. He recognized your potential for guerrilla fighting and archery as opposed to your own father’s preferred conventional axe fighting. Your mother, the Lady Shona, likes to compare you to your own knightly father in many ways, especially in regard to your personalities, but there is no doubt that the two of you shared different physical builds. He was taller and physically stronger than you, but had no real talent for the bow, perhaps to his chagrin given the ancestral bow you now carry. As much as the two of you clashed on occasion in the years leading up to your knighthood, the two of you did reconcile upon your return just prior to the war. He seemed truly proud of your accomplishments, even if he went about achieving his own knighthood much differently. He granted you command of the Sparrowhawks at the war’s outbreak, charging his friend and cousin, Barth, to provide counsel if need be. You didn’t disappoint. You were the one left to rally what remained of your forces after your father and his men fell, and your unconventional style of fighting allowed you thrive in the brief period of guerrilla warfare that followed.

Your affection for Barth aside, he won’t be able to act as your Captain there forever. He bitches about his age half-heartedly, but he really is getting too old to reliably fight in a protracted engagement. You wouldn’t want to take a punch from him, but you’re not convinced he can keep that pace up. You need some young blood to take his place. A knight, preferably, and one that doesn’t have his head too far up his arse to think outside the box when required. Perhaps you will find someone that meets your standards in King’s Landing. If not, there’s always your tournament. You get out of bed with a sign to begin writing your instructions to Barth. Hopefully he will have something passable together by your return.
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>>3806756
>2 weeks later, start of Month XII

You find yourself enjoying your stay at the villa more than you expected. Despite the bustle of Atia and your handful of servants in making minor renovations to the décor, it’s actually much quieter here than it was back at your tower. Sometimes you feel all a man truly needs in the world is some quiet. Atia’s condition has improved since her low point after the voyage as well. You’re sure it’s going to be easier on her here for the duration of her pregnancy. You can’t imagine it’s comfortable to climb flights of stairs while heavy with child. Even with all of the relaxation, you find yourself frequently joining your Sparrowhawks in the wooded grove behind the villa. It’s turns out you did own that after all. Aodhan wasn’t merely boasting about the effectiveness of your newly slimmed down elite unit. You’re sure you could accomplish a lot with your signature unit at your back. The men who didn’t make the cut will have more than enough work cut out for them back home, so you doubt they will have any hard feelings. You find coin is coin to most. Besides, many of the others have families to care for now. Children and grandchildren that should be learning what it means to be men from your veterans. The men you have at your back here are all closer to you in age. They have few worldly concerns than the others and will be happier to have closer access to a more varied assortment of taverns and brothels if anything.

You still have a little over a month before you are expected to make your appearance and little to do but enjoy yourself here. It’s a nice feeling. Your wife takes care of the financials of your house with relative ease due to her previous successes as a merchant and your mother is doing a fine enough job of overseeing the projects of your domain if Atia’s assessment of her letters is any indication. You may just be the least busy person in your house right now. Funny thing, that. As your impending moment in front of the Iron Throne approaches, the Ladies of your household are busying themselves by frantically trying to figure out their state of dress. Ciara won’t be joining you in front of the King and the Queen, but she will still need to look her best at court and about the city. Particularly if she is so intent on finding a good noble husband. Atia has already modeled various dresses for you. A show you were more than willing to participate in. Her mind seems to change hourly though, so you have no idea direction she will go in. In truth, you’d be more concerned with her overdoing it and sparking jealousy amongst the less... blessed members of court than you are of her underdoing it.
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>>3806804
As of yet, her self-preoccupation has kept her from trying to dress you. A small mercy. But how exactly do you want to present yourself? You could tone it down and go dressed like the other foppish lordlings, though you’ll need to actually purchase something worthy of the occasion. Although you’re sure a warrior king wouldn’t object to you dressing the part of a noble knight either. You’ve shed blood in defense of the Realm, some of your own along with that of many, many others. Why shy away from it? Of course, if you are really trying to build a reputation for yourself, you could take that a step further. After all, a man of your standing won’t rise far simply trying to blend in… well, you’ll still leave the dragonhelm behind either way. You’re not a complete fool.

>Dress in the latest fashions for once, not like a warrior.
>Dress in your best approximation of a noble knight.
>Dress like what you really are. A Clawman, and one that should be rightly feared.


I’ll leave this open for a bit because a first impression here is going to be important for a character that is new to court and who will likely be expected to spend more time here in the future. It will set the tone for your future interactions. As a reminder, you have the Threatening drawback, so you’re going to come off as such regardless. The question is more towards whether you will embrace that image or attempt to alleviate it.
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>>3806746
>the results
>Geralt Boggs confirmed
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>>3806810
Dress like an actual Knight
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>>3806810
>>Dress in your best approximation of a noble knight.

A short list of people we are not going to intimidate

- The entire court in a public setting

Let's play it down until we can get someone where we can intimidate or act threatening properly. Not in the view of the Kingsguard and Goldcloaks etc but still play to the fact that we arn't afraid to get our hands dirty
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>>3806810
>>Dress in your best approximation of a noble knight.
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>>3806810
>>Dress like what you really are. A Clawman, and one that should be rightly feared.
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>>3806810
>Dress in your best approximation of a noble knight.
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>>3806821
I actually really want to do the full armor thing, as a clawman. But I suppose if we are here to win over the queen. We may be a tad bit better off trying to appease her by looking as the others do.Honestly not sure what would be the better option
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>Dress in your best approximation of a noble knight.

I must admit, the third option of dressing like a swamp barbarian contrasted with a woman that looks as if she should be sitting on the thrown hanging off your arm was a tickling thought. Nothing at all wrong with playing it safe though. At least no one is going to be prissy about interacting with you over it in the future, but your reputation is unlikely to spread as much as it could have (for better or worse). Writing!
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>>3806920
>Bust down the door wearing crab armor
>Exaggerate our accent
>"I BRING CRABS TO THA QUEEN, AS IS TRADITION!"
>Dumb a bucket of live crabs ontothe floor
>Keep eye contact with the queen for far too long
>A targ-looking lady dressed better than the queen is right next to us looking super embarrassed
>Cerci is flabergasted
>Arryn is face palming
>Bobby is laughing his ass off
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>>3806810
>Dress like what you really are. A Clawman, and one that should be rightly feared.
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During one of her impromptu fashion shows, you mention to Atia of your desire to dress more like a knight for your visit to court and she dropped her own dress in her excitement. “Oh! We are going to look so dashing together! But we simply must take you to the market. Your clothes, they’re very… nice, darling. And yet we will have to find you something a little fancier to complete your image. A cape! Yes! And new boots with those cute little spurs on them! I’ll lend you some of my jewels to wear as well, oh don’t give me that pouty face, my flame. Jewels aren’t just for women, you know.”

You knew there was a reason you hadn’t mentioned anything sooner…

Within the next week, the horses you had sent for from your lands have finally arrived. You want to get rid of the damn things. There is no reason to keep around forty warhorses that do nothing but eat and shit and cart around men that gravitate to the more placid palfreys over those ornery beasts anyway. At least this way you can tell yourself you’re going to a market for reasons beyond fashion.

You end up heading towards the markets that frequently spring up outside the walls of King’s Landing. After realizing how far of a ride Duskendale is, you don’t want to subject your pregnant wife to it. They’re not strictly speaking legal and yet they are still practically a fixture. Every once in a while, some disgruntled monarch or council member orders them to be cleared out and the Gold Cloaks descend to break things up. Something tells you they have bigger things to worry about right now. If there’s one thing merchants adore it’s coin, and entering the city is a good way to lose some to tolls at the gates. You’re told the tolls have gone up since the end of the war, allegedly to go towards rebuilding after the Sack. You’re not sure why the Lannisters aren’t paying, but you are sure that you wouldn’t like the answer. In any case, you have no personal issue in perusing the black markets. They look like regular markets anyway and you can sympathize with those who dislike tax men.

You’re accompanied by all twenty of your Sparrowhawks, who are pulling along the excess horses. They have gone without flying your colors for the duration so as to not give the impression that your house is about on official business, but they still cut an impressive figure with their newly made blades and bows. You yourself also dress simply to avoid attracting too much attention, but Atia opted for a bright purple dress to bring out her eyes along with silver jewelry. You suppose that at least doesn’t mark her as a member of your house. You ask around and end up finding a merchant that is eager to deal in horse flesh. They must be in high demand after so many were lost.

>Can I get… oh R’hllor. Can I get 8d6 for Persuasion (Bargain)?
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Rolled 3, 4, 2, 5, 2, 6, 2, 6 = 30 (8d6)

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Rolled 3, 6, 4, 1, 4, 5, 1, 5 = 29 (8d6)

>>3806987
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Rolled 6, 4, 3, 3, 2, 4, 4, 3 = 29 (8d6)

>>3806987
>"I'll make you an offer you can't refuse."
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Rolled 3, 4 = 7 (2d6)

>>3806992
Rerolling your 1s.
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>>3806987
Can we at least keep two of them for us and our wife?
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Rolled 1, 5, 3, 6, 1, 2, 4, 3 = 25 (8d6)

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>>3807004
As I've explained a few times, you have other horses. These are specifically just the warhorses that you captured in battle.
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>>3807004
We are keeping more than that
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>>3807012
Are the other horses as nice as the ones we are selling?
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>>3807017
Oh dude they are beautiful
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>>3807024
Do they make our wife jealous?
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>>3807025
She beged we would get rid of our mare
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>>3807031
Lies! We had a stallion!
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Rolled 6, 1, 4, 2, 1, 2, 2, 5 = 23 (8d6)

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“Allow me, Cormaic. I do so love to barter,” Atia says as you approach the merchant, a balding man with a common look about him that is already sweating in the rising mid-morning heat. There’s no doubt summer is upon you at last.

“As you wish,” you say with a shrug, “I would aim for 400 dragons if you can. I’m not a complete expert on horseflesh, but I’d say they maybe be worth around 300 normally. You’d think the post-war demand would help things though.”

She looks at you the way she looks at Esmeralda’s puppy. “My sweet, sweet knight. These horses are going to be worth exactly what I say they are worth. I have no need for silly concepts like fair market value. That’s for other people,” she says with a predatory grin.

>Rolled 28 vs DC 12
>4 Degrees of Success

The man fixes you with a confused look as Atia steps forward instead of you before turning to her with a slight bow. “Uh, pleasant day to you milady. You uh, you the one selling these fine creatures?”

“Oh, me? Well I suppose I am. I may be just a girl, but I was hoping we could come to some sort of an arrangement,” she says sweetly.

“Not to worry, milady. I would be happy to help you. For you, I would be willing to take them off your hands for 300 gold dragons in these trying times,” he says, rubbing his palms together with barely contained eagerness.

“300, you say? Tell me, do you take me for a whore?”

“A whore? I- course not milday I---” he stammers.

“You see, it’s common courtesy to at least buy a woman dinner before you try to fuck her,” she says with narrowed eyes, “and such a criminally low offer is most assuredly an attempt to fuck me. Have you no shame? Would you whip out your cock right here in the square? Filthy little man.”

The man is beet red and sweating more than he should be even in this heat. He takes an awkward and aimless step forward, as if he can snatch his dignity back from the air. He stumbles as he is still trying to blubber a response and winds up on his hands and knees, coins spilling from his pockets.

“Pitiful. I’ll give them to you for eight and we will put an end to this mummer’s farce,” she announces haughtily, purple eyes gleaming in the bright light of the sun.

“Eight,” he squeaks with tears in his eyes, scrambling to pick his coins up out of the dust.

>Acquired 800 dragons (4 wealth)
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>>3807097
Christ, she could sell a hooker to a eunuch.
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>>3807097
>“You see, it’s common courtesy to at least buy a woman dinner before you try to fuck her,” she says with narrowed eyes, “and such a criminally low offer is most assuredly an attempt to fuck me. Have you no shame? Would you whip out your cock right here in the square? Filthy little man.”
This post thoroughly entertained me. lol
Great creativity there.
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>>3807097
You ride away from the stall twenty minutes later with considerably less horses in tow and considerably heavier saddlebags. You almost felt pity for the man, but Atia insisted to you that he should find another profession if he can’t handle a little competition. Your men and especially Ciara, who tagged along to find her dress, took a moment to fix their jaws after the display. They’ve no doubt seen more mercy shown on the battlefield.

“I don’t see what all the fuss is about over these horses anyway, darling. I’m as sore from these accursed saddles as I was after our wedding night,” she complains before seating herself higher in the saddle and massaging between her legs in a very unladylike fashion. Ciara seems to be choking on something on the other side of you. You end up taking the hint and purchase a litter for her and Ciara to use instead, giving them some respite from their mounts and the heat while allowing them to travel and gossip in a fashion more befitting their station.

You travel through the city gates to find a finer quality tailor than you likely would have outside the walls. It turns out there is an entire alley dedicated to the craft, with another nearby for cobblers and cordwainers. You head down to the latter with two guards as an escort, leaving the rest with the two Ladies as they busy themselves with their own needs. The shopkeeper almost takes an attitude with you at your mention of black leather riding boots with spurs before thinking better of it when he notices your bow and your eyes. It’s not an unexpected reaction. You’re certainly not dressed in the finery of a noble knight and spurs are intended for knights alone, but even smallfolk can recognize the exceptional make of your bow.

He takes your measurements and assures you a pair of the finest make can be ready within a fortnight. Satisfied, you leave off to find the rest of your party. Ciara is still dealing with measurements while Atia is off haggling over capes. If there is one thing you’ve learned from all of your wife’s dress modeling, it’s that she doesn’t need more of them. She also has a preference for a particular tailor across the Narrow Sea and seems to show little interest in what is available here. Ciara seems delighted by the opportunity for clothing of finer make from the capital. Your family didn’t have an excess of wealth while you were growing up due to poor priorities in trading. As a result, Ciara never grew accustomed to the rich lifestyle you’re now providing for members of your house. You think she will shine more than ever with the new opportunities you are affording her.

>And that’s it for tonight! Next story post will be on Wednesday night, but I’ll pop in to answer questions before then. Thanks for playing everyone!
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>>3807135
Thanks for running
What does everyone think we’ll get nicknamed after? I was thinking we’ll probably end up being called either Shadowcat for our stealthyness or Whitebow for obvious reasons
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>>3807097
>The man is beet red and sweating more than he should be even in this heat. He takes an awkward and aimless step forward, as if he can snatch his dignity back from the air. He stumbles as he is still trying to blubber a response and winds up on his hands and knees, coins spilling from his pockets.
So this is how merchants spill their spaghetti.

>>3807135
If the merchant came up with a counter of his own like taking Atia up on a date, would it be perfectly alright to gut the guy? Also how bad would the fallout be? Would people start finding out we were married?

How many dice did the merchant have? Could he have counter rolled and won, or was it purple beating a pre-generated DC?
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underrated post
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>>3807164
He wasn't that fleshed out as a character. Not really a need to considering Atia's intrigue defense is also quite high. Things would've only gotten problematic if you failed the roll, which would be hard to do. I was expecting you to pull in 3 wealth, but not 4. I guess I underestimated that dice pool lol.

It would be a big deal if you killed a merchant in broad daylight in the capital city over anything less than him physically attacking you or your wife. You would find yourself in a cell for that. Maybe if you had a lot more influence, but you're about as low as a landed noble can be on the food chain.
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I'll have the first post up tonight by 8pm EST.

I think I'm going to change things up a little bit for how we handle ranking up Specialties versus Abilities. I'm going to keep exp expenditure the same for abilities and make ranking up specialties something that's done through votes during periodic timeskips. I don't mean long timeskips, just during the "two weeks goes by as you do X" moments that come naturally in a setting that doesn't have modern methods of communication and transportation.

So yeah. That way we can keep exp spending votes a little more periodic and mostly for when we have 30 banked up. The specialties that would normally cost 10 exp would rank up naturally through the narrative instead within the gaps between more notable plot elements. It shouldn't be broken because I still intend on capping your specialties at 21 total bonus dice and your abilities at 1 rank 6, 3 rank 5, 5 rank 4.

I hope this works for everyone.
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You wake up to another stormy day. It’s not for the first time that you count yourself lucky that you didn’t get yourself dragged into defending Dragonstone. On your way back from your market excursion in King’s Landing, you’d seen for yourself the warships massing to take it, but you can’t help but wonder if it will even be necessary. The storms heralding the coming of summer have intensified since your voyage and the defenders of Dragonstone will be face a difficult choice: maintain their position and suffer the storm or leave for calmer waters. You have a feeling they will choose the former. Rumor is the backbone of the holdouts are the proud Valyrian houses of the Blackwater along with the few remaining loyalists of the Crownlands. There are even a handful of Clawmen still fighting, by your reckoning, but that is perhaps the least surprising of all. If your people are known for anything, it’s their loyalty and stubbornness. The same traits that lead to your father’s death. For you, that all ended with the death of the Prince on The Trident. Your house and family mean more to you than the Crown anyway. You’re sure some of your neighbors will disagree with you with a characteristic lack of subtlety once you’re finally face to face at your tournament, but that’s fine with you. You’ve heard you have a stubborn streak of your own and are more than willing to throw the argument back in their faces. You aren’t a student of history, but even you are well aware that the bloodline of the Targaryen Queen Visenya that your family owed true allegiance died out two hundred years ago.

Ciara joins you as you break your fast. She’s in a disturbingly good mood. “Brother, I have some interesting news for you. You know how I’ve been attending some of the local tournaments leading up to the Royal Wedding?”
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You do. You’ve been having Tyrra act as her escort along with a few guards. You told her to kill any man that grew overly friendly, but you suspect Atia may have altered a few words in translation. It really wouldn’t hurt to learn more of their words if you’re going to be dealing with even more Pentoshi in the future… “I’m aware. Where are you going with this?”

“You might say I met someone very interesting yesterday. Someone we both would like you to meet,” she says in a conspiratorial tone.

You freeze, gripping your knife a little more tightly than intended, “oh? Who?”

“The Lady Maeve Pyne,” she says with a wink, causing you to settle back in your seat. Devil woman. “She is also here to bend the knee and is most interested in meeting with you.”

Your frown in confusion. “The daughter of Ser Pyne is bending the knee and seeks to meet with me? Where is her father? Her brothers? They are a knightly house as we are. They don’t typically have womenfolk handling their business.”

“Brother, sometimes I wonder how up to date you truly keep yourself on the affairs of your neighbors,” she says, sounding like your mother, “they’re all dead. They all either died on The Trident or in the retreat afterwards. She’s the only one left.”

“I… didn’t know,” you say with a slight pit in your stomach. In truth, it makes you feel a touch foolish over your own recklessness lately. The head of your house is by definition a knighted male who holds dominion over your lands. While you may technically have an heir, Esmeralda would never hold true power. Or Ciara, if Esmeralda was passed up. They would be married off to a knight who would then assume the title of Knight of the Boggwood. That’s it. “Lady” is simply a sign of respect towards noble women, at least in the case of your house, and doesn’t imply the rights of Lordship. You’re not a Lord yourself.

“She would like to meet with you and discuss the future state of the Crackclaw houses. She’s a lovely conversationalist and I’m sure it will help you plan ahead for your tourney. That is, if you don’t mind seemingly like you’re showing her favoritism,” she says offhandedly.

Host Lady Pyne at your villa?

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>No
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>>3810555
>>Yes
I wonder If she knows where married, I doubt she wants some Bogg in her but it would be funny.
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>>Yes
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>>Yes
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>>3810555
>Yes
Tell our wife first of course.
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>Yes

“Fine. Tell your friend we’d be happy to host her. I’m sure Atia would enjoy the idea of a small feast if nothing else. Tomorrow night would be suitable. There may be opportunity in this… you did well,” you admit.

She favors you with a pleased grin before you wipe it away by asking how her search for a husband is progressing. “It’s a disaster,” she says, “they are all so… old. If not old or gross, then too far above my station. I’m not simply seeking to be bedded, I want commitment. But I have another approach that I’m planning to take. The squire’s melees.”

“You’re not marrying a squire. I know I said you can take your pick, but I didn’t mean that sort of pick,” you say with some finality.

“I’m not stupid,” she says indignantly, “such a match would be an embarrassment to you and I both. No. I’ve my eyes set on the winner of the melee. The winner gets a knighthood, right? So I will get the attention of the most dashing and chivalric future knight there. He will ask of my favor and then surely win. Then I will have him all to myself,” she says dreamily.

“And you don’t think you’re getting too carried away with this? What if some fat pig windmilling about with a hammer manages to stay standing long enough to win? It wouldn’t be the first time. Not even the hundredth time. Squire’s melees are a piggy’s dream. The other scrawny lads more oft than not lack the strength or technique to finish them off. I didn’t know that was your type, sister,” you say with amusement.

“That’s NOT my type,” she huffs, “and it doesn’t matter. They don’t know they are competing for my affection or my hand. They’re just there to smash at each other over a knighthood. If someone unappealing wins then I simply move on to the next event. The city is ripe with them anyway. Too many bored men lounging around waiting to attend the wedding or looking for a chance to seek favor with the new Royal Family.”
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>>3810730
“Okay. Suppose you’re right and you do somehow manage to find someone worthy in this mess… I have my doubts, I may add. What then? You’d seek a betrothal from a lad who was a squire shining his master’s boots the day before? How will he provide for you? There’s a reason girls your age so often find themselves with those ‘gross and old’ men. Those men seek out a wife because they either already have incomes of their own or because they’re seeking to gain one through marriage,” you say simply. You hope you’re not coming off as too harsh, but the girl needs to hear this. She’s been too dreamy.

Ciara seems frustrated, but also overwhelmed. You’re not sure she realized what she was getting herself into. “I don’t know, Cormaic,” she says with wet eyes, “I just want a family of my own and a man I could love. I want to be happy. Why does the rest have to matter? I wish mother were here to help.”

“She isn’t,” you say bluntly, “we are stretched too thin right now. We don’t have enough loyal retainers to allow for the family to leave all at once, especially when Barth hasn’t finished raising the Bronzeguard again. We are expanding, but we aren’t ready yet. Would that I had more knights of my own,” you muse.

Her eyes light up. “Cormaic, you’re a genius.”

“I know, but why?” you ask suspiciously.

“If I find a worthy knight that doesn’t have a position of his own, then he could swear his sword to you, right?” she asks hopefully.

“That… may be possible, but I would need to think on it. I won’t hand a position to some lad just because you like him. He needs to be able to stand on his own or my own men won’t follow him. You know our ways,” you say carefully.

“Then why don’t you come with me instead? You can see for yourself whether he is worthy. But don’t go scaring all of the boys off with those looks you give everyone,” she chides.

Attend a Squire’s Melee with Ciara (effectively accepting that she will seek out a newer knight as opposed to someone more established)?

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>>3810732
>>No
What happened to marring a Wester Man you daft cunt.
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I should add, she's effectively status 2. That's household knight tier. Even a minor landed knight like yourself is a rung above her on the food chain. It was always going to be a reach for her to find a knight that is both halfway decent to look at and also established enough to independently provide for her.
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>>3810732
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>>3810742
She's still seeking one. She was never going to find a lord. That would be incredibly unrealistic.
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>>3810732
>>Yes
"When this goes wrong and a hammer piggy wins I'll be laughing. You know that, right?"
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>>3810732
Yes
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I'll change to a Yes. biggest badest knight we can find. Doubt we will find someone as good as Merv in this bitch. But someone to lead our skirmishers would be nice. Even if only under Barth as he gets better for a time.
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Good stuff. And I have just the character in mind. You can thank Joe for the sheet!
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>Yes

She’s looking at you hopefully, on the edge of her seat. Her food half forgotten and blueberry jam on her face. The very picture of poised nobility.

“I gave my word that you may do this your way. I’ll attend,” you say, bringing her smile back, “but don’t get too upset when Ser Piggy of the Flail wins and impresses me so much I betroth you on the spot.”

She doesn’t even snap back, just wraps you in a hug and skips off to her scheming.

“Touching.”

Your true sponsor materializes from the corner of the room. Varys.

“Master Ryvas,” you say with a simple incline of your head, “the study then?” You stand and head to your office. You know all too well that walls tend to grow eyes and ears, especially this close to the city.

“Ser Cormaic,” he says as you both settle in with a cup of heated tea. An oddly pleasing drink that Atia had convinced you to try a few weeks ago. It’s fast becoming a habit of yours. It seems even Varys was unable to resist a cup when offered. Figures he would like something so floral. “I bring some mixed news from the Red Keep. First, the Lord Hand took no particular issue with your following of your people’s custom of swearing to the Queen. Our King Robert couldn’t care any less either. I must say it seems he’d rather not attend at all if he felt he could do so without the Hand and his uncles nagging him further. Not one for courtly affairs, this one,” he tuts.

“However,” he wrings his hands together, “I am still having some difficulties in dealing with our mutual problem in Lord Gyles. Lord Jon Arryn was most displeased in hearing of his less honorable cousin’s scheming, but feels his hands are tied. Raised voices behind closed doors are all that will come of it. You see, he could simply deny any public accusation you may lay at his feet and then feign outrage to solidify the position he so covets. A position the Realm can ill afford to be left under the care of such a corrupt man with ties to precisely the wrong camps across the Narrow Sea. Or at least, that’s what I would do in his position,” he sniffs, “the Lord Hand is a cautious man and won’t be so easily baited. And so we find ourselves at an impasse.”

“I sense a caveat in there,” you say lightly.
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>>3810935
“Just so. You are the caveat, Ser. For better or worse, you have begun to develop a slight reputation as one to be feared. I must admit, you do have a certain look about you,” he says with a wave of his hand, “no doubt our Lord Gyles is well aware of such. I mean to exploit that. You must give him cause to fear for his safety. Without resorting to violence,” he quickly adds, “you must do so with your presence and words alone. To physically harm him in this city would invite doom upon you and your house. Mention your actions in Gulltown if you must.”

“As I see no reason why such a man would risk meeting with me privately, I’m assuming you mean for me to do this in the Red Keep with eyes upon us,” you begin.

“I’m pleased you understand the situation so readily, Ser Cormaic,” he says with a bob of his bald head.

“Then why would I be so foolish as to admit to such a crime in front of the King’s Court? You ask much of me,” you say with evident surprise.

“Oh, my dear knight, we are just getting started,” he says smoothly and without apology, “it matters not what you confess to. In fact, this may be the one time in which such a statement is true. You are here precisely to have your past transgressions wiped away and to be welcomed back into the King’s Peace by your most gracious and forgiving monarch. Every act you have committed since the start of the war up until your arrival here will be washed away with your new oath. Your punishment has already been determined in the form of reparations. As humiliating as it will be for Lord Gyles and his coconspirators, they will have no further legal recourse against you, lest the Crown opens itself up to endless accusations and demands from far bigger players than yourself. No, you may confess your sins as if you were speaking to the High Septon himself and they will be obliged to sit there and take it. I’m not demanding you tell them in any case. It would make it much easier to cow the threat into submission, but if you think you can pull this off in some other way, then you are most welcome to do so.”

How do you want to go about intimidating Lord Gyles Arryn?

>Admit to being responsible for burning Gulltown and insinuate that more will come to those who wrong you.
It will make the DC lower. Obviously, this will give you even more of a frightening reputation, but it has the added effect of making potential enemies hesitant to act against you directly.
>Don’t admit to any wrongdoing. Rely on your knack for intimidating alone.
Should go without saying that the DC will be quite high unless you combine this with:
>Other, write-in some other plan to pull this off

I’d like to leave this up overnight for any discussion. We will pick up tomorrow evening with Ciara’s melee and dinner with Lady Pyne. Thanks for participating!
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>>3810941
Well that girl may have just died for no good reason then.
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>>3810941
>>Admit to being responsible for burning Gulltown and insinuate that more will come to those who wrong you.
>>3810951
Hindsight is 20/20

Well this is interesting, that being said it works in our favors if our enemies are to plan and not commit to any plans of yet. Gives us time to grow. As well as Varys time to peek into their plans and find our enemies beforehand.Only enemies he wants us to deal with.
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>3810941
How would you define "quite high"?

Anyone can come up with a 3rd option?
Can we mention we married a Targ wife so Bobby doesn't go and kill her later?

Wait, if Lord Gyles doesn't confess to plotting against us and our wife, then that means we potentially have a caucus bell if we should ever find sufficient proof of it for grievances?
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>>3810941
>>Admit to being responsible for burning Gulltown and insinuate that more will come to those who wrong you.
Welp what's one dead girl to the Red Lord.
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>>3810968
Hey she wasn't part of the sacrifice!

If she was, and she is a virgin, it should have given us another destiny points for that.
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>>3810951
Well yeah. You could've easily scooped her up instead of killing her. That said, not getting caught kept you out of having higher reparations written into your contract. It'll be too late to alter it when you're signing the thing.
>>3810964
>Hindsight is 20/20
Words to live by right here.
>>3810967
I won't go as far as to hand you the DC lol. That would be a bit much.

Even with proof, you'd have no recourse anyway because they'll use the fact that you were not formally welcomed back into the King's Peace yet and also say you started it by sacking their supply train, which you did. You'd risk being accused of slandering a lord with little to gain.
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>>3811027
>slander
No I mean watching that nice mansion be gifted to the fire god.

Well if you told us that the people who ship us to and back to home base wouldn't say a thing to risk or comprise us, then I would have.
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>Don’t admit to any wrongdoing. Rely on your knack for intimidating alone.
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>>3810941
>Don’t admit to any wrongdoing. Rely on your knack for intimidating alone.
Should go without saying that the DC will be quite high unless you combine this with:
>Other, write-in some other plan to pull this off
Hire assassin to kill Lord Gyles Arryn (via proxy) with a vague enough description that the assassin would probably go after the correct Arryn with the same Heraldry.

Wait for the assassin to make his move, come across him on our way to the stables or something. Kill assassin in brutal manner with axe and arrow, and smile of glee on our face, we end up "saving his life".

Lord Gyles is now intimidated.
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>>3810941
>Don’t admit to any wrongdoing. Rely on your knack for intimidating alone.
I imagine character being ashamed of what he done there.

Why is it important to intimidate Lord Gyles in the first place?
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>>3810941
>>Don’t admit to any wrongdoing. Rely on your knack for intimidating alone.
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>>3811156
So he doesn't mess with us in the future plotting against us since he would realize how much we can fuck with him in retaliation. I assume.
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>>3810941
>>Admit to being responsible for burning Gulltown and insinuate that more will come to those who wrong you.
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>>3810941
>>Admit to being responsible for burning Gulltown and insinuate that more will come to those who wrong you.
Posting from school, will be a 1 ID post
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>>3810941
>>Don’t admit to any wrongdoing. Rely on your knack for intimidating alone.
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>>3810941
>Admit to being responsible for burning Gulltown and insinuate that more will come to those who wrong you.
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>>3810941
>>Admit to being responsible for burning Gulltown and insinuate that more will come to those who wrong you.
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>>3810730
>What if some fat pig windmilling about with a hammer manages to stay standing long enough to win?
Top kek. The image alone is awesome and why can't Ciara fall in a love with a chunky and dashing young knight?
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>>3811324
Lol she's probably one of the most likely to be able to see the good in a less outwardly appealing guy. Very empathetic type. Not so sure how likely she would be to give such a lad a chance with you there laughing now.
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>>3811506
Maybe we'll scale our laughter to how well he does. From laughing our ass off if he barely makes it to a friendly laugh if he does really well.

We should also use the squires melee to scout out a future leader of the Bronzeguard to train, preferably one that matches it's skirmishing style of fighting.
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>>3811538
I should probably roll up the event properly before tonight. At least for the end of it. It wouldn't be fair to simply hand the win to the character I have in mind, tempting as it is. Gotta earn that knighthood.

And yeah, that's probably going to be the direction this'll go in for a new knight that swears to your house as a condition for Ciara's hand. Leadership of the Bronzeguard, but answering to Barth as well until he can show he has a handle on things.
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>>3811694
>It wouldn't be fair to simply hand the win to the character I have in mind, tempting as it is
It's completely fair. You're the one writing the story, and the players don't have influence on it either way.
Do what you think makes the most interesting story, Boggs
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>>3811733
He is going to give us a whimp that has the best gear.
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I would tend to agree with >>3811733 on this. Until that character is directly part of our family or within our influence, the story telling aspect of it is solely in your hands and if it helps tell the story you want to tell, go for it.
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>>3811733
>>3811756
Some great points. I already rolled right after I posted that comment though lol. He won anyway. Not too surprising given his build. Not that he has a generic statline. I personally think it's very interesting. I'm really excited to see how he ends up fitting in.
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>>3810941
I would like to argue against telling everyone about us burning a town. We are already have butcher like reputation. That kind of thing leads to no mercy policies. Also burning town will lead to aditional grudges. Its better to not have them connected to us.

Just tell him that if he ever tries to touch our PREGNANT wife again we will fead him his own balls .
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>>3810941
idk if voting is closed but
>Admit to being responsible for burning Gulltown and insinuate that more will come to those who wrong you.
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I'd say that was one of our closer votes, but I'm going to call it for going full villain with this one. That should be fun!
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So who do we sacrifice next? Cersei? Joffrey? Also, are we gonna declare for Stannis “The Mannis” Baratheon or is The Red Woman just gonna show up at our door
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>>3812806
I'm hoping we get one of those big breaded Volantis Red Priests.There my favorite
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>>3812806
>Inb4 he "dies" in a fire and come back as "The Burned Man", with everything burned and scarred but his eyes.

>"We can't expect R'hllor to do all the work."
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>>3812806
A stable full of horses?
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>>3810941
>>Admit to being responsible for burning Gulltown and insinuate that more will come to those who wrong you.
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>>3811827
I still dont know if we are actually going to be meeting him in private.
Also it was due to his cousin that this happend. He doesnt have absolute control over his cousins house.
Uf you're talking about saying that to Jon Arryn the hand of the king that is.
We should do well to remember his position. Just state our point that we protect our own, and we collect on debts even if in blood.
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Still typing, but I’ll start dropping posts to get started!

>Admit to being responsible for burning Gulltown and insinuate that more will come to those who wrong you.

“I’ll defer to your judgement on this. If there will be no further legal repercussions, then I’ll do what it takes to see him off,” you concede.

He smiles, pleased at your accord, “it’s so wonderful to see we are on the same page, Ser. I must warn you; I do suspect this will cause you to develop even more of a reputation for such tactics. You seem to have a propensity for lighting things on fire. I’m told your raiding during the war made the night skies glow orange before battle was finally joined. That isn’t to say such a thing is entirely negative,” he adds hurriedly, “it likely won’t make you friends, but such a reputation does lend itself to making more pliable those whose simple agreeance on a subject is all that is required.”

You think back to your silent prayer to the Red God before the excitement began on your last excursion, but opt to answer with a simple shrug, “so be it. I fought for the losing side, married the illegitimate daughter of a magister, and have a recognized natural daughter that I’m quite sure is running about in bloody pants of all things. Let some Crownlands nonce forget to invite me to a wedding. I’ll carry on.”

“Just so, Ser Cormaic,” he says with a wince at your bluntness, “I’m sure your lovely wife may charm herself into more… civilized invitations regardless of your disposition. I daresay she would be quite adept at hosting a party if nothing else. Her taste in décor is most exquisite. Your villa is already looking better than the day it was constructed. Although perhaps we may involve you in certain circles yet. Our King Robert is an avid hunter and has already shown his enjoyment for excursions into the Kingswood and elsewhere. Tell me, Ser, do you enjoy the hunt as well?”

“Aye, I confess I do enjoy the solitude of it if nothing else. I’ve taken bear in the past, but my greatest accomplishment would be the White Hart from Whispers that I tracked down as a wedding gift to my Lady wife.”

“Fascinating,” he states in a tone that suggests anything but, “perhaps you may be able to join the King’s hunts yet. I would suggest honing your skills in such matters if you are to duly impress him. He is renowned as a great hunter even at his formative age. And with such thoughts I must bid you a good day. As I’ve said before, the Realm waits for no one. Not even me.” He bows and makes himself scarce to scheme elsewhere.
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>>3812933
You find yourself sitting with Ciara in a box at one of the city’s several orbiting tournament grounds. You’d given Tyrra leave to remain with Atia for the day. An indulgence that she thanked you with mock relief, commenting in her broken Common on having to suffer artless fighters for too long. You almost jokingly gave her leave to participate but decided against it. The last thing you needed was for her to take such a suggestion seriously and cause an incident.

Ciara is chatting in your ear eagerly at the prospects beginning to form up on the outskirts of the field. You suppose a fortnight of tireless attendance has given her a certain eye for such events. She’s probably been to a half dozen or more small tourneys at this point, but this is her first involving squires. Privately, you do wish her luck. This must be taxing to a degree and you’d sooner see her find the results she so seeks. Apparently, there are a number of Westerlanders in attendance. No doubt busying themselves in their boredom before the Royal Wedding. You hadn’t received an invitation yourself, but you’re also not surprised by such. No matter.

Ciara eventually excuses herself from you to begin her act. She stands up and approaches the box, leaning over it ever so slightly. It may still retain the illusion of modesty, but you have no doubt it is more than enough for the young men below, especially considering the latest fashion of including more of a dip in the front of dresses combined with her particular assets in that area. She pleaded with you to remain back in the shadows so as to avoid dissuading suitors entirely. Instead, you have Aodhan step from your own shadow to keep a closer watch as she plays her game. It doesn’t take long before she has a trickle of lads brave enough to make a pass. She’s polite and yet dismissive until one in particular seems to catch her attention with a remark. A brown-haired boy perhaps an inch or two taller than you, with a unicorn on purple emblazoned over his half plate. The two end up engaged in conversation for an almost unseemly period of time before he kneels with his sword. You can practically feel Ciara’s blush from here before she remembers herself and beckons him forward before tying a silk ribbon of your house’s green about his sword arm. He grins at her before whispering a few more words and heading back towards a knight in yellow and black plate, no doubt his sponsor.
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>>3812943
Ok so the Brax boi is interested. That's not bad at all
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>>3812943
Thats one ugly unicorn. At least she found herself a boy from Westerlands.
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>>3813049
Hopefully, he is the squire/or sonbastard of someone of some kind of importance.
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>>3813066
Has to be a branch or a bastard all of the man boys are like 6 at this point.
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>If you are familiar with House Reynold, you may recall Tygon's wife, Lady Andrea is a Brax. Her father, Lord Andros Brax, mentioned having a bastard son to Ser Mervyn. Here we are, a touch over two years later.

She practically skips back to the shaded interior of box out of the rays of the rising summer sun with rosy cheeks and a sly smile on her face. “Well? Is this what normally happens or is the lad off to a good start?” You’re curious despite yourself.

“No brother, this is only the second time I’ve granted a favor. I decided the first had rather ill intentions, but this boy is truly sweet. His name is Anders Hill and he is a squire to Ser Arston Jast. He’s quite charming and I’m sure he will do well.”

You give her a blank look, “Jast? Is that supposed to mean anything to me?”

She gives you an exasperated look, “House Jast. Of the Westerlands. Brother, you do know how to read don’t you?”

You cross your arms, “so he’s a bastard of some house I’ve never heard of. Ciara, are you sure of this?”

“His father is of House Brax. The Lord Andros Brax. Surely you’ve at least heard of them. You’re one to talk about such, Cormaic. Would you not wish the best for sweet Esmeralda,” she says with a huff.

“Not the same thing,” you grumble, “I’ll reserve my judgement until the end.” Although you had indeed heard of House Brax. They were one of the more powerful Lannister bannermen. The son of the Lord, even a bastard son, would be a suitable match… provided the father is actually supportive of his baseborn son. You’ll have to find out if he proves victorious.

You’re both interrupted from your thoughts by a newcomer to the box. A woman somewhere around the age of yourself or Ciara in a dress the color of blue steel and eyes to match. She brushes her dark brown hair back and favors your sister with a soft smile, who quickly stands. “Lady Maeve! I’m glad you could make it. Brother, may I introduce Lady Maeve Pyne of Pynewatch. Lady Maeve, this is my brother, Ser Cormaic Boggs, Knight of the Boggwood.”

>Can I get 4d6+2 for Persuasion Intimidate you smooth knights?
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Rolled 6, 4, 2, 2 + 2 = 16 (4d6 + 2)

>>3813087
Ello
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Rolled 2, 1, 2, 6 + 2 = 13 (4d6 + 2)

>>3813087
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Rolled 4, 5, 6, 2 + 2 = 19 (4d6 + 2)

>>3813087
lets see
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>>3813109
Smooth like a pearl
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>>3813098
>>3813108
>>3813109

>Ser Cormaic Boggs Normal Conversation (Intimidate) Vs Lady Maeve Pyne
Rolled 17 vs DC 12
Success, 2 degrees
Lady Maeve’s composure is 3/9

>Lady Maeve Pyne’s Seduce vs Ser Cormaic Boggs
Rolled 21 vs DC 13
Success, 2 degrees
Ser Cormaic’s composure is 1/9

A stalemate then. Interesting. This may be a first. Writing!
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>>3813122
New Catchphrase?
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>>3813132
Ciara "Red Demon" Boggs with a finisher?
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>>3813132
god damn that's even with a -1d
We should invest in a persuasion once we can guys. All the women we meet are moping the floor with us.
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>>3813171
...fuck. I forgot about that. She was rolling with her full pool. It likely would've only been one degree. Oh well, I think it reads more like one degree anyway.

What happens next can only be described as a battle of wills. It all happens within a few short moments. You stand from your seat and regard her fully, she falters a step as she gazes into your eyes, but still manages to keep up appearances enough to hold a slightly shaking hand out for you to kiss. You oblige and your sister smiles, seemingly oblivious before briefly turning back as the contenders are announced by some flamboyant southerner. Lady Pyne takes the moment to regard you with a daring smirk, briefly airing the top of her low-cut dress as she takes her seat and bearing more cleavage than appropriate. Your attention is drawn to her necklace of pearls similar in color to the grey of her house. Those are your pearls. It’s entirely too hot in the box already. The summer heat, surely. You return your attention to the arena below. You won’t be caught gawking or making forced conversation like the squires below. You are a knight. A married knight. While Lady Pyne has a pretty look about her and is clearly up to something, she is still no Atia. You’ll let this simmer until you can find out more later. She came to you, afterall.

At the blare of a trumpet, the lads below sketch a chaotic charge in multiple directions and begin smashing at each other. Many fall within moments, especially the smaller ones, but there were about fifty on the field and it will take time to weed them all down to the final contenders. The field soon divides into a series of brawls before thinning out to a score within the span of a few minutes. Despite your earlier scorn for such an event, you find yourself learning. One undeniable fact is readily present. Westerlanders fight like utter cunts. Now, you are no conventional fighter by any means and see little place for such when the lives of your men are on the line, but fuck. They tore apart the weaker links almost immediately and then many of the middling fighters banded together into their cliques to bring down their biggest competition. You saw at least 3 of the more skilled boys get brought down by the scavenging dogs. Two more leading contenders are beset. You recognize Ciara’s crush as one and… hah. A piggy with a fucking maul. Fascinating. You smirk over to Ciara, but she is getting so engrossed that you swear she stopped talking with Lady Pyne midsentence. She doesn’t even notice your look.
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>>3813269
On the subject, you’re finding yourself becoming aware to an unsettling and ever-present pattern among noblewomen. You’ve heard the age-old adage that such womenfolk should be seen rather than heard and you can’t help but feel that it was one of their own that crafted such a devious statement. They watch from their metaphorical perches like shadowcats above a canyon. Waiting, observing, and finally striking once they’ve learned all that needs to be known of their prey. There are more observant men in the Realm, albeit a few. Aodhan could likely give you a run for the title in such a department, but you are still no Seven-worshipping dullard of a knight who is unable to see the singular danger of a quiet woman. And you have a paragon of such within a pace of you. Without conceit or direct confirmation, you’re certain her stormy eyes have been focused upon you far more than upon the ladbash occurring below. What’s her angle?

The unexpected happens when Piggy and the Brax boy start working their way towards each other until they are fighting almost back to back. You must admit, they make a great team. Enough so that you almost find yourself dropping your aloof façade. One swings his maul about to keep the bulk of them back while the other dispatches those left open with methodical and opportunistic thrusts of his longsword. Despite the odds, they end up breaking their less honorable opponents until the field is theirs alone. They exchange a few words before squaring off again. You are a middling fighter yourself, but it is readily apparent who will win. The maul could take Ciara’s boy out of the fight with a single swing, but its wielder is growing tired. The swings are coming too sluggish now and his opponent is still fast despite also being wounded. He simply lunges in between blows to deliver small cuts. The dance continues for a while longer before Ciara’s favorite deals a final decisive blow near the big lad’s armpit, causing him to drop his maul. For a moment, you expected him to just charge, but he ultimately decides to yield. They both collapse to the mud shortly after until their knights and other onlookers rush out to their aid. For what it was, it was a fairly brutal event. There is enough blood in the dirt to testify to that. You’d think Ciara would look more pleased, but she looks extremely worried instead, her face as pale as snow. Her friend, the Lady Pyne, simply looks on with a vacant expression. You suppose she of all people must be used to dealing with death.
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>>3813271
You watch on from your box as Anders Hill becomes Ser Anders Hill, his sponsor the same knight that he served only moments ago. There is far too much Seven worshipping in their vows for your taste, but the general principle is the same. The two embrace at the end like kin, to the cheers of the crowd.

One thing is bothering you though. The way you see it, the other lad was just as worthy of the knighthood. He took the brunt of the hits and stayed standing. He could’ve gotten a cheap hit on his comrade, but they both fought just as honorably. The only difference was that one fighting style didn’t lend itself to protracted fights. Perhaps Westerlanders, being the cutthroat cunts they are, have some notion that only the last one standing is worthy of title, but you were taught that a knight is only his actions.

“Brother, they need my help. They’re barely able to move. So stupid! I’m not going to have the one nice boy I've met bleed out in the dirt over you men and your pride. Let me go see to his wounds,” Ciara says with a mix of emotions.

Allow her to help?
>Yes
>No

Would you like to knight the other lad yourself?
>Yes
>No
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>>3813309
>Yes
>yes
Only if he'll take the knighthood, tell him we thought him a true knight.
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>>3813309
>>Yes
>Yes
We could afford to have a piggy in among our skirmishers. Not exactly his fighting style but the big bastard could adapt slowly but surely over time.
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>>3813309
>Allow her to help?
>>Yes
>Would you like to knight the other lad yourself?
>>No
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>>3813309
>Yes
>yes
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>>3813321
Ditto, piggy could be good for our Bronzemen
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>>3813333
>>3813349
>>3813372
>>3813389
>Yes
>Yes

“Go then, but behave yourself,” you warn, “I haven’t agreed to anything yet, nor will I until I speak with his father.”

She gawps at you like a fish before finding her words, “I’m not some tavern girl, Cormaic. I have self-control, unlike some people.” She storms off, probably to berate this boy next. At least he’ll know what he’s getting into?

“A sweet woman, your sister. I do envy her,” Lady Pyne finally makes her move. She hasn’t said a word to you since entering the box.

“And why is that, my Lady?” Little choice but to bite.

“Family. To be loved and to love. Nothing matters more, wouldn’t you agree, Ser?”

“As it happens, Lady Pyne, I do agree. Now if you’ll excuse me, I find myself having work to do after all. You’ll be safe here until I return,” you say casually.

“I have two guards of my own, Ser. I’m sure they will keep me safe from your man,” she says with a nod to Aodhan who is lounging back in a chair rather than guarding anything.

“Aodhan? He’s not on guard duty. The others though,” the shadows of the box’s corner seem to shift as three of your Sparrowhawks step out into the light, “we are always outnumbered, Lady Pyne, you of all people should know that better than anyone.”

And with that you vault down to the floor below to the surprise of some of the remaining attendees. Two of your men follow. The knights and squires, those that didn’t need a cart, have begun to walk off to the large pavilion at the end of the arena. All the better. You wouldn’t want to waltz onto the field and steal the glory from the victor. The pavilion would be suitable.

You’re glad you bothered to dress in your armor today. Your men are also suitably impressive in their new uniforms. You wouldn’t go about looking like a beggar while dealing with potential betrothals. The men crowding the entrance of the pavilion part ways, unsure of what to make of the newcomers. You scan the mass of bodies, find the big lad in yellow off to the side. He seems in good enough spirits despite looking like he’d gone through a meat grinder. He looks up in surprise as does everyone else as you approach him. “I’d have your name, lad,” you say.

“Peter. Peter Plumm, Ser,” the ruddy faced boy answers with a confused look.

“You fought honorably. You could’ve taken a shot at Ser Anders’ back and sealed the win, but you went for the straight fight instead. Why?”

“Anders---Ser Anders is my friend. He’s never treated me ill on account of my size either. I would make a piss poor knight if I went about dealing low blows to friends,” he says simply, as if he doesn’t understand the question.

“Then you leave me no choice. Kneel,” you command, drawing your hand axe.
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>>3813448
He sinks to his knees without question, as if by instinct. Boys like him dream of attaining such a moment for their own.

You lay your axe on his right shoulder and recite from memory, “Peter Plum, do you swear before the eyes of gods and men to defend those who cannot defend themselves, to protect all women and children, to obey your Captains, your Liege Lord, and your Queen, to fight bravely when needed and do such other tasks as are laid upon you, however hard or humble or dangerous they may be?”

“Aye, Ser. I swear it,” he vows with wet eyes.

You move the axe to his left shoulder, “Then rise, Ser Peter Plumm, Knight of the Westerlands.”

His legs are unsteady from excitement and blood loss, but he rises unaided nonetheless to a round of cheers as his fellow knights slap him on the back. You get a few as well as you leave off to find your sister.

And find her you do, in another pavilion of black and gold. Ser Anders Hill is laid out on a bench and Ciara is leaning over him with her hands on both sides of his face. They’re definitely kissing. He notices you first and tries to warn her, but touching her shoulder apparently came off as eagerness to her instead.

“Careful,” you rasp with absolute finality.

She freezes before pulling away, her cheeks flushed and eyes wide.

Ser Anders regains his wits first, “Ser, I did not seek to dishonor her. She was bandaging me. Then she started yelling at me. Then she started kissing me. That’s all.”

That… sounds about right, really, but you’re not even looking at him. “Ciara. Not your finest introduction. I know I mentioned something to the effect of behaving yourself.”

She at least has the decency to look a little chastised. Ser Anders pushes himself to his feet and sinks to a knee. “Ser, with your permission, I seek to court the Lady Ciara.”

“It seems she’s already courting you,” you say to both of their embarrassment, “however, meaning no offence, I’m told your surname is Hill, yes?”

“It is, Ser,” he acknowledges stiffly.

“Then I’m forced to ask more. Your… father would be the Lord Brax then? I would know of your relationship with him.”

“He has acknowledged and sponsored me, though I don’t reside at Hornvale. In truth, his Lady wife dislikes me and what I represent, though my father still arranged for me to squire under Ser Arston Jast so that I may rise higher than my birth,” he says with surprising honesty.

“Then your father and I have much to discuss. You may court my sister, properly, but you will show more self-control if she won’t,” you allow, “arrange a meeting. Until then, Ciara.”

She starts to walk to you before turning back and wrapping her silk ribbon back around his arm again, “I expect this back Anders, and soon.” She boldly pecks him on the cheek before hurrying back to your side.
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That's it for tonight! We'll pick up tomorrow with the feast and some politics. I'm pretty certain we will end up with an overnight vote tomorrow that will be fairly contentious, one way or another. I'm interested to see what you guys do.
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We had two MCs knight someone today and it could not possibly be any different. Loving multiple running GoT quests. Great stuff Boggs. Did you catch the Sparrowhawk reference in Malroy?
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>inb4 we start talking in our sleep
>Atia recognizes that it’s Asshai’i
>she eventually realizes that it’s one phrase repeated over and over again
>FOR THE NIGHT IS DARK AND FULL OF TERRORS
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>>3813577
I did! I actually pointed it out at one point, but I have a habit of posting without a trip. (Not that I mind when others do.)

>>3813597
She would wake you up in the best kind of way.
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>>3813900
It's a pity we didn't get to what Lady Pyne wanted. I assume marriage proposal.
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>>3813959
>tfw no crackclaw alliance against the celtigars sealed in marriage
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>>3813959
Surprisingly, that's not her first option. Although it's true that she doesn't know you're married yet. Ciara did a decent job in glossing over that detail in their gossiping.
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>>3814127
What if we marry her to our wife's sister?
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>>3814317
>Lesbian marriage in GoT
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It’s time to return to your other conundrum, Lady Pyne. According to Ciara, she plans to travel back with you for the feast. You’re assuming she will get to her point there. She obviously wants something to seek you out in such a way, especially with that display upon your introduction. You can’t help but feel a little amused if this was over a betrothal. Ciara is adamant that she didn’t let anything slip over your marital status so Lady Pyne should be of the assumption that you are still available. It would have to be between you and the Lady herself due to the depleted state of both of your houses. It would also be about the most even match you can think of as well, though with some glaring pros and cons. For one, you’re sure she’s subject to debts of her own, which would have been brutal if you both were forced to pay debts with no dowry to offset them. On the other hand, poverty would have been damn near worth it to gain title over her lands as well as your own. Pynewatch is known primarily for its port town, which is a fine model for what you yourself are trying to create, as well as their fur trade. Although defending such has to be a weak point. Their military must be a disaster if the male line of the family has completely perished. There’s no way their nobility died alone in battle…

On the subject of weddings, Ciara has been holding off on sending invitations to the tournament in honor of your own wedding until next month. Although, you could always postpone it. It’s going to seem a touch strange to hold a tournament with the bride missing. You could simply hold it in celebration of the birth of your heir instead. There would be no hurt feelings because no one is even aware of your tournament plans yet outside of your immediate family. You’re sure the Brunes or Crabbs will be hosting something sooner where you may mend fences and make deals.

>Putting this option up because I honestly don’t know why I didn’t think of presenting it earlier

Delay your tournament until after your heir is born and your wife may attend?

>Yes
>No
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>>3815131
>>Yes
Birth of a first-born child is just as well.
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>>3815131
Wait, where’s our wife?
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>>3815131
>>Yes
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>>3815131
>Yes
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>>3815145
She won't be traveling back to your lands for the tournament because she is already having a difficult pregnancy and an earlier vote decided to keep her at the villa rather than risk anything. A wise choice because I would have rolled for complications. It only occurred to me later that postponing the tournament would have been a fair third option and one I should've thought of so here it is.
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>>3814895
Just Handholding
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>>3815131
>>Yes
I was wondering why this wouldnt simply be a better option. I guess I just never had the full thought.
Makes much more sense.
Shes actually around. And in good health by then. As well as her bargaining status helps. Gives us enough time to gain some more wealth so we can add a knights battle. To potentially gain some more into our employ.
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>>3815131
>Yes
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>>3815131
Yeah, let’s wait, our Valyrian wife would be sad that she missed all the bloodshed
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>>3815144
>>3815150
>>3815161
>>3815166
>>3815173
Solid yes vote all around there >>3815166
brings up some good points too. I subtracted the wealth for the events already voted on though you can always recruit from attendees. It may even shore up some alliances.
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>Sorry about the delay. I’m not dead, just talking to people. Weekends right?

>Yes

You think it may be best to postpone your wedding tournament and turn it into a nameday tournament. Perhaps you can even honor Ciara and her new husband if there is a wedding by then. No, you’re not being cheap about it, that’s ridiculous.

You make your way back with your men in tow. You didn’t bother speaking to the new Ser Plumm yet. If he and Ser Anders are truly friends and if he has a sense of loyalty, then he will come to you soon enough. Besides, your mother taught you not to keep a Lady waiting… shrieked it at you, really. Numerous times. You find Lady Maeve in the box, looking incredibly bored. She regards you with her icy blue eyes for a moment before she offers her hand with little comment otherwise. You find her face to be a touch unnerving. She’s pretty to look at, yes, but she has a knack for appearing cold and distant in a way that makes you want to apologize for simply looking at her. You help her up and escort her to your litter that she and Ciara end up sharing on the way back. It’s slow going, but you suppose you have time still. At least you’re not stuck walking like the crossbowmen Lady Maeve keeps around. Sort of an odd choice of bodyguard. You’ll need to ask about that later.
Your party makes it back to the villa as the sun begins to set. You must admit, Atia has outdone herself. The richness of your lifestyle is on full display even considering the relatively small scale of both the venue and the number of guests, namely only Lady Pyne and a few of her crossbowmen. Your wife wasted no time in decorating the previously sparse villa more lavishly as well having her personal belongings shipped down here. A simple task considering the proximity to King’s Landing.

Atia saunters out to greet her guests and quickly locks arms with you, quite possessively, before smiling cheerfully at the Lady Pyne. That would be your que then, “Lady Pyne, may I introduce my wife, the Lady Atia Boggs, formerly of Pentos. Atia, this is Lady Maeve Pyne of Pynewatch. One of our valued neighbors.”

“And our honored guest,” she continues for you, “It’s a pleasure, Lady Maeve. I do so love to meet all of my sweet Cormaic’s friends! I’ve had a feast prepared in your honor. A small thing, but I hope it will please you.”

“You’re married,” Lady Maeve says flatly.

“You didn’t know, my Lady?” you ask with a poor attempt at innocence.
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>>3815409
Firstly, kek at that last line
Secondly, we should play a game with our son were we sneak up on eachother in order to spook the other one
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>>3815409
“I’m quite sure no one else knows either, Ser Cormaic. I’m not a fool,” she says with a twinge of annoyance.

“My dear husband is being too coy,” Atia cuts in with a wide smile, clearly enjoying her reaction, “we fell in love and simply had to be married as soon as possible. Sadly your new King is a greedy man and would seek to rob us of the substantial dowry my dear Papa left for his favorite daughter, so we kept things quiet. All of the secrecy makes it all feel so taboo! It’s more romantic this way, no?”

Lady Maeve’s face betrays little emotion, but she doesn’t seem particularly bothered. “Yes, Lady Atia, I’m quite sure it would be. This is unexpected, but I see benefit in it for both of our Houses,” she says cryptically, “may I extend my sincerest congratulations to both of you on behalf of House Pyne.”

Atia blinks before her smile reappears as brightly as before, “I’m so happy that we are of the same mind on such Lady Maeve. And please, just Atia is fine. I’m not used to all of this “Lady” business yet. It makes me sound so old!”

Your small group makes their way into the… you have no idea what to call the room. It’s not big enough to properly call a hall, but it serves as such for your small household away from home. At least it’s more finely furnished than just about any you’ve seen. That’s the nice thing about small spaces, easier to fill up with what’s available to you. Atia’s lilting tones fill the air again, “come! We have wine. I’m told Westerosi enjoy their Arbor vintages. We do in Pentos as well. My Papa does business with an exciting merchant prince by the name of Montelban. He brings casks of the finest vintages of the Arbor upon his return voyages from such places. It was a small matter to acquire some for my own uses. Please do tell me how it tastes,” she says with a wave of her hand.

Lady Maeve tilts her head quizzically, “you… won’t be partaking La--- Atia?”
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>>3815541
Your wife giggles, “oh no, that would be bad for the baby. My sweet husband, flame of my heart, is most virile you see. Not that he would need to be with the amount of practice we get in. We are already expecting our first child, a true dragon, no doubt.” She pats her belly for emphasis with a sly smile, though she isn’t even visibly showing yet, you think.

Lady Maeve simply raises her eyebrows while Ciara buries red face in her wine glass. It seems this one isn’t as shy as your sister. An unusual trait for a maiden of her upbringing. “My congratulations yet again, an heir is most important to a house, as I’m sure you would agree Ser Cormaic.”

The first course finds its way from the kitchen to your table soon enough. Truffles worth their weight in gold over a flat bread, you’re all too glad they must not weigh too much, served with a sauce drizzled over top that tastes like more of the same to better highlight the main ingredient. Atia claps her hands happily before wasting no time in indulging.

There’s no doubt as to who you should be speaking to, which does simplify things immensely compared to your previous feast. It’s strange to think the last time you did this was upon the first day you met your wife. You had a woman on either side of you seeking your attention and your sister’s concerns over future prospects to deal with as well. It feels as if things have changed so much in such a short time. But what would you like to discuss first?

>Ask of Lady Maeve’s family and probably her personal business
>Ask of the other Crackclaw houses and their dispositions
>Something else, by all means write in whatever you’d like. Even if you just have specific questions pertaining to the above options.
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>>3815546
>Ask of the other Crackclaw houses and their dispositions

Gotta figure out who we have to keep an eye on
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>>3815546
>>Ask of Lady Maeve’s family and probably her personal business
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>>3815546
>>Ask of the other Crackclaw houses and their dispositions

How fares her neighbors on the western Point? Don't hear much about the Crabbs or Alders this way. Can she give us any insight into the Cave and Brune conflict?
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>>3815546
>>Ask of Lady Maeve’s family and probably her personal business
No sense beating arounf tge bush
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>>3815546
>>Ask of the other Crackclaw houses and their dispositions
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>>3815541
>that not so subtle insult
Kek
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>>3815554
Ditto
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>>3815546
>>Ask of the other Crackclaw houses and their dispositions
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>>3815546
>Ask of the other Crackclaw houses and their dispositions
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>>3815546
>Ask of the other Crackclaw houses and their dispositions
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Calling for asking about other houses. A fine way to start. Sorry for the slow updates. Social niceties are what they are. I'm going to keep going until I get to my intended stopping point either way though.
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>>3815706
I just 1000 yard stare at everyone and use a sad and grumpy tone, every time I talk while uncomfortably stare at stuff like objects, hands shoulders and walls. Not one bothers me for social niceties anymore now. I think one of my in laws is scared of me.
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>>3815716
>pretending to have autism
Anon, I hope you know that at some point you’re not pretending anymore
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>>3815739
Where in my post did I say "pretending" or "autism"?

I just get a little quiet.
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=xqZ5iPUqswE
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>>3815763
The bit where you say you avoid eye contact and talk in neutral voice
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>>3815792
I said neither.
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>>3815820
>sad and grumpy tone of voice
>I use the 1000 yard stare and look at things around me
Ya said both buddy
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>Ask of the other Crackclaw houses and their dispositions. A fine enough way to begin discussion.

“Lady Maeve, I was hoping you give me the pleasure of hearing your thoughts on the state of our homeland. In particular, what you think of the way our neighbors are positioned. I must confess, I spent quite some time away from home and war broke out shortly after my return. I’m at a loss for the current state of our mutual neighbors beyond who is currently leading them.”

She takes another sip of her wine before her lips twitch in what approximates for a smile from the icy Lady, “as I suspected you would be, Ser Cormaic. Meaning no offence,” she adds smoothly, “but you’ve been far removed from the goings on around the Point. Be it from the location of your lands or your own proclivities.”

She takes another sip before continuing, “and it just so happens that the current political situation is precisely what brings me here. We all can see that Lord Eustace Brune is attempting to unite the houses under one true banner with himself as the head. As I’m sure you’re well aware, he has had his brood marry into House Hardy, House Crabb, and has even had a son serve in mine own house, though he perished with the rest upon the Trident.”

“House Cave tried to resist them. Albeit in a stupid manner. They ended up giving cause for war and the Houses Brune did not disappoint. House Cave is no better than a banner to Lord Eustace now and both Dyre Den and Brownhollow expanded their territories to rival those of House Crabb when considering their combined resources. The Brunes have nearly as many men-at-arms under their banners as the rest of the Clawmen combined. House Hardy would be a close second, but they cannot strike at Dyre Den due to marriage pacts. They’re a prickly lot and do like to keep to the Old Way more than most, although I hear old Lord Fergus was wroth when House Cave’s lands were parceled up without his house benefiting from the spoils. That they did none of the fighting is a minor detail, I’m sure,” she smirks, “I’ve heard you have also done something to offend him, but who hasn’t?”

You grimace, “some scuffle broke out between his men and mine at camp before battle. I hadn’t the time to put things to rest as I had bigger issues to deal with. I wasn’t present when it happened so I can’t say who even started it.”

“Less interesting than I had hoped, but unsurprising. Boys will be boys, they like to say. And this brings me to the final House you must contend with, aside from perhaps mine own,” she adds with a twinkle in her eye before continuing her almost clinical analysis, “House Crabb. They have the most land of all of the individual houses even if they are outmatched by the Brunes combined. They also have the strongest economy by a wide margin. However, they were hit harder than most by the Rebellion and their might is greatly weakened.”
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>>3815884
That is neither avoiding eye contact or a neutral voice.
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>>3815891
“Though they don’t seem to be content to remain idle as now Lord Clarence has his eyes set on me,” she continues with some distain, “or rather my house. He seeks to wed one of his own to me to stake claim to my lands. You of all people should have a particular appreciation for the unique advantages and disadvantages of knightly houses. I cannot hold the title to my lands directly. There must be a Knight of the Pynewatch and soon, as I’ve been told. My family’s holdings are second only to the Crabbs’ in economic potential. Now, I’m sure Lord Eustace will have some sort of counteroffer as well, but I have no desire to see my family’s legacy reduced to that of another banner beneath Lords that should regard us as peers.”

“Well said, Lady Maeve,” you allow, “and nor should you. I must say I have more sympathy for your plight than you may know, but I’m unsure of where my house fits into your plans.” You swear you may be on your third course at this point, but you’ve been listening with rapt attention. In the span of half a dinner, this woman has provided you with more political insight than you have encountered since before you returned to your lands from your questing for Knighthood.

“Don’t you, Ser? Perhaps I haven’t painted a picture vivid enough. I’ll summarize it bluntly. You and I both are outliers in the games of Lord Clarence Crabb and Lord Eustace Brune. Lord Fergus Hardy is a player as well to an extent, if only because of the sheer number of arms his house maintains,” she adds dismissively. “Both would like to hold dominion over the entire Point and Lord Eustace now has a substantial lead. They have their sights set on collecting both of our houses to further their own goals. Regardless, I will not see my house reduced to a banner of a neighbor. I will die before that day and take my bloodline with me.”

The words send a chill up your spine. It is no small thing to suggest the extinction of a house’s bloodline. You glance over to Ciara to see her face pale at the statement so readily issued. Atia, for her part, seems interested in it all, but you’re not sure how much she appreciates the gravity of the situation either. From what you understand, bloodlines are taken less seriously in her homeland.

“I’m going to assume you aren’t one to make such a statement lightly, Lady Maeve,” you say cautiously, “but you must understand you will need to take a husband. Someone must hold the title for you if nothing else. Find some dullard you can control if you must, but the situation is what it is. And again, what is in all of this for my house?”

“I took you for one that would not bend the knee to your peers, Ser Cormaic. Was I wrong?”

“Any man in my position would say you were right, my Lady,” you say neutrally.
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>>3815926
“That is what will come to pass if you do not act,” she says with heat, “One of the more prominent Lords will find cause to bring you to heel. They speak of forming alliances, but you don’t have enough to offer them to be taken seriously. You are also young, as am I, and you know these prickly old men will treat you as such. I’m proposing we work together. Combined, they will be forced to treat us as peers. And so I’m saying in no uncertain terms that you must hold my title.”

Silence. None of you so much as move until you speak again, “Even if I could, even if I wanted to, I have no claim to it. You can plainly see I’m already married and we have no blood ties to speak of.”

“I have no intention of marrying anyone. I won’t risk it. I won’t tolerate it. I don’t need marriage to produce an heir. Noblewomen on occasion have bastards too you know.” Atia drops the fork she’s been playing with and glares with some intensity. Ciara nearly chokes on her wine.

You lean back in your chair, incredulous, “then I’ll say it. You’re suggesting I father a child upon you,” her steely gaze doesn’t break as she nods, “then you don’t know what you’re doing. You will ostracize yourself. Even if I were to agree to such, what if you have a daughter? What if I don’t stand idly by and decide to put your title, my title, to use?”

“I seek you treat me as a respected ally and allow me to rule the lands that my family has held for as long as anyone can remember. If you were to abuse that trust, then I would use my unique advantage as a woman to deny your parentage and your title would be forfeit,” she says coldly and defiantly, “I don’t mind playing the part of the tearful, pleading girl in front of the King’s Court if it means keeping my family’s legacy in the hands of the only one that should grasp it. And I will take my chances upon the gender, though I’m certain I have the resolve to only bear a son. My family would have expected nothing less of me. Don’t think I haven’t considered all of my options, Ser. I would do much and more to ensure my house’s continued independence. You are uniquely suited for such in that our power combined is enough to keep the scale of a larger alliance balanced.”

“I… need time to discuss this with my wife,” you say, “you ask much of me.”

“And I give you as much as I ask,” she says pointedly, “but I would think less of you if you did not speak of such with your Lady wife. Your future children are to be affected by such an alliance as well, perhaps more so.” Atia hasn’t stopped staring daggers at Lady Maeve since she pieced it together. You all retire shortly after the discussion wraps up. Lady Maeve takes one of the bedrooms set aside for guests, as is typical for those who would stay for late feasts such as this one, while you follow in Atia’s stormy wake to your own private chambers.
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>>3815921
>I look everything other than a person’s eyes
>it’s not avoiding eye contact
>I use a sad and grumpy tone of voice
>that’s not neutral
Denial is the first step dude
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>>3815944
I see.
You are interjecting your own self insert into the description. I stare at peoples faces and make eye contact for a uncomfortably long time without blinking much, but you assumed that I make zero eye contact or avoid it. Sad and grumpy isn't neutral tone. Neutral tone would be like monotone without emotion, and would make it somewhat hard to infer or determine ones emotional state judging by body visual and audio cues.
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