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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UllZH-Xeb0k

"The surge in availability of internet connectivity all over the world has guaranteed that the current "dot-com boom" will be no mere market fluke; the recent introduction of the Planetary Datalinks, a user-updateable encyclopedia stored on orbital servers, may have irked old Usenet communities that fear a loss of cohesion in the netizen community, but has already shown benefits in the literacy rates of underdeveloped areas. It is not difficult to imagine a situation in which English and Simplified Chinese have become truly global languages, with..."

You put the presentation away. It's two days old but it might as well refer to a different era. Things were looking good, damn it! Carpatescu's plan for a united world that could face the challenges of the 21st century together, idealistic as it was, was actually beginning to work. Sure, you'd have to sort out the African subpotentate yourself, but it wouldn't have been that hard. And then, some damn fool nationalist militia types had to go and wreck everything for everyone, attacking airports and universities in Egypt, Great Britain and North America - and somehow eliciting a disproportionate response by the new global defense initiative.

You've just woken up after spending an unknown amount of time manning a virtual switchboard to ensure that precious bandwidth would go where it was needed most, to first responders. At least it's over.

Or so you think.

Carpatescu is in flight to New Babylon on some sort of stealth airliner - he's been broadcasting an address to the world, so the few people left at HQ (after you ordered most nonessential civilians to evacuate, and your security teams to aid first responders in Chicago) are ensuring that his address reaches everyone. He's going the long way round heading west, to avoid flying over Europe or Egypt.

The airliner has landed in San Francisco to refuel - after which the bay area city's airport is swiftly bombed by unknown attackers. A problem is the Peacekeepers' disproportionate response involved dropping deactivated nuclear bombs from aircraft; while they were unable to initiate, the end result is that a large amount of poisonous (and still radioactive) plutonium dust has entered the atmosphere.

Things were looking good, damn it!
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You've decided to stay at HQ in order to coordinate your people's efforts. Looks like things have, at least for the time being, gotten back to normal.

In the next few hours, you give your attention to

# getting out and helping local rescue efforts yourself, along with your security teams and the Ghilotti Bros. construction company.

# directing local rescue efforts without putting yourself in danger.

# ensuring Carla and Aki's safe return from the UK.

# ensuring that the construction of a secondary HQ in Chile proceeds smoothly, by manually routing a high-bandwidth channel between there and Chicago.

# figuring out a way to warn Santiago or other subpotentates that Carpatescu has hypnotic powers.
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>>3669296
# ensuring Carla and Aki's safe return from the UK.
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>>3669296
I'm torn between assisting Carla and Aki or warning Santiago.

Fact is our ability to relieve the damage done by the Peacekeepers is minimal compared to what they've done and putting ourselves at risk does little to improve it. Lastly, though the secondary HQ is important, it is hardly the end-all of our situation. Resources can be spared later to resume construction or repair damages should it be needed.


God dammit, they shouldn't have used the nukes. Who in their right minds uses any nuclear weapons in response to civil aggression! We're going to chew the ass off of everyone after this.
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>>3669296

> # ensuring Carla and Aki's safe return from the UK.

They're our trump cards.
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>>3669312
Only 3 we can realistically warn....

Russia guy, South American best girl, Murrica guy.

Maybe the China guy too...
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RECAP

You are the Foreman of the Custodial Arrangement for Telecom Systems, the one-world telecoms agency under Global Potentate (formerly UN Secretary General) Nicolae Carpatescu, who is in no way shape or form the Antichrist, despite what the Christian Remnant sect has been saying after the disappearance of every child on earth in 1996 - they called it the Rapture, everyone else simply refers to it as the Event.

You are the man who runs the Internet. Your mandate: Keep it that way, even in the face of Armageddon.

Rules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.Quest2Rules.html

Datalinks: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.Quest2Datalinks.html

Tentative prophecy timeline, extracted from Bruce Barnes' computer before his untimely death : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BlMOSEOxSihj1gdagq7yxCjONaRBgcdlRxnc68uWf0A
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>>3669315
>Russia guy, South American best girl, Murrica guy.
European guy thinks decently of us if I remember rightly for our handling of the Irish situation. Probably not enough to take this sort of warning too seriously but maybe enough to at least humour us.

>Maybe the China guy too...
China is a girl but aye we can probably tell them too.
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>>3669312
I tried to set up Santiago recording Carpatescu several times before, but noooooo.

Well, now isn't the time because even if Santiago knew, what is she going to do about it?

Besides, Nomenklator is a public thing now so good luck getting Carpatescu to fuck up near one.

That boat sailed.
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>>3669296
>>3669321
We do have the one recording of Carpatescu using it on us


> ensuring Carla and Aki's safe return from the UK
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>>3669321
>I tried to set up Santiago recording Carpatescu several times before, but noooooo.
Yeah well at least she's on our side.

>Well, now isn't the time because even if Santiago knew, what is she going to do about it?
Quickly acquire or make use of a Nomenklator headset that we or she already got her?

>Besides, Nomenklator is a public thing now so good luck getting Carpatescu to fuck up near one.
We might get lucky, the models that the public know about are large bulky earmuff looking things rather than our covert earpieces.

Plus their main benefit is the limited protection from his speech-control. Which we should really invest in improving.
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>>3669315
Even then, how are we going to convince them of it? Should we even convince them of it?

Too bad we didn't have Santiago on our side for it already.

Because having a communications giant with advanced tech give you a/v evidence gets tricky when they're also the best choice to have faked it.

And with the current rebellion, is this the best time to bring it up?
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>>3669334
Yeah there will be a better time to talk to Santiago about it then now.
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>>3669312

(Hey, that's how it went in the Left Behind books. The whole "nukes mysteriously have stopped working properly" bit is my own, in the books, the Peacekeepers drop a 100 megaton bomb on Heathrow for no real reason, and it gravely damages the airport instead of, I don't know, turning lower England into an alien landscape. I had to come up with something!)

>>3669312

You are having a very hard time figuring out who is bombing what; the GNN feed of course says that most of the damage is due to the militias, but you aren't so sure. Before passing out at your post, you had decided that the best way to avoid causing additional panic was to have Gladys read news updates in a monotone, lowball the casualty figures, and put Dr. Robertson or one of his students on the satellite feed to tell people to stay indoors to avoid contamination from what are essentially "dirty bombs".

>>3669321
>>3669333

The Nomenklator units you have been selling look like headsets; the ones you have been using, and issuing to a few field agents, are much smaller (and expensive to manufacture) and can effectively be hidden inside the ear. An experimental noise-canceling algorithm has been tested, by you, and confirmed to at least make you aware of Carpatescu's hpynosis, although you ended up obeying his commands anyway at the time.

Unfortunately, subpotentate Corazon Santiago wasn't given one.

As far as you know, she is on Carpatescu's stealth airliner, somewhere over the Pacific and due for Wake Island where the airplane will refuel.

>>3669331

You have two such recordings, if you want to use them for proof.

>>3669334
>>3669336

Corazon Santiago is, as it stands, on your side - or at least she was just before the attacks; you had just concluded what amounted to an informal alliance, allowing CATS to open a second HQ in Santiago de Chile in the old SYNCO building.


>>3669331
>>3669314


One oddity of the distributed internet infrastructure you have created is that just a couple of Cellular-Solar mesh hops away from a crisis zone, things are working normally, albeit a little slower.

You use your ability to flash-override cell phone calls to book a few tickets on a series of regional airlines from Luton to Midway, IL, passing through Reijkavik; Carla, Aki and the other couple of people who went with them will be back at HQ in a little more than a day. Interestingly, one of the first orders Carpatescu has given is that airline traffic in airports that were not attacked resume as soon as it's safe to do so.

A few hours later, you receive word that Carpatescu's plane (named Condor 216, if you care, and capable of operating in the transsonic region although not of traveling supersonically for long periods - you briefly wonder why he didn't get himself a Concorde) has landed at Wake Island.

The attacks seem to have stopped; the death toll is in the thousands, largely due to airport terminals having been bombed while full of people who had been mustered there.
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The damage to the US east coast, southern Britain, and northern Egypt was extensive, with dead in the thousands. MIT and Princeton have been closed.

The Twin Towers in New York have been evacuated as a precaution after one of the militia airplanes - generally older models from the Air National Guard in the US, whereby in the UK the insurrectionists have literally broken out the museum pieces in some instances - crashed through the north tower and embedded itself in the south tower.

Hospitals around the affected area are starting to fill up with people exhibiting signs of plutonium poisioning; even though the stuff is markedly less radioactive than it used to be, this is still a death sentence, largely because the illness has never been studied - radiation damage being a more pressing issue in case of exposure - forcing doctors and nurses to improvise.

Your security teams are starting to come back in; they've done what they could, and first responders now have the situation more or less in hand.

There are a number of things you can do to help: you will do all of them, but must prioritize one - the situation is too chaotic to do regression analysis, so some triage will be necessary.


# Dispatch teams to reconstruct the Cellular-Solar pylons immediately, communication will be essential.

# Connect Dr. Robertson's students to hospitals in affected areas since they can assist medical personnel in dealing with the plutonium exposure's new effects.

# Secure existing emergency supply warehouses from looting by other factions.

# Try to contact Carpatescu (or anyone else on the Condor, viz. the supotentates) and ask for orders.
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>>3669369
# Secure existing emergency supply warehouses from looting by other factions.

We're one of the few factions to have serious non-food stockpiles (e,g medicine, fuel, etc) at the ready. We've got to ensure they don't get looted. Once that is done we can look into the other issues.
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>>3669369
# Connect Dr. Robertson's students to hospitals in affected areas since they can assist medical personnel in dealing with the plutonium exposure's new effects.

They can study the new effects.

Didn't we give Santigo a Nomklator before we left?

Make sure to send the guys she sent up to help us return wit a bos full of them as gifts.

Mark how many we sent.
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>>3669369
>secure exissting emergancy supply warehouses.
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>>3669376

You've given Santiago a prerelease consumer Nomenklator as a gift, but not one of the hideable ones, so out of politeness she's unlikely to be wearing it on the Condor (besides, your infrastructure is not yet at the point where regular cell phones work on airplanes, although of course Carpatescu has a satellite link installed in it).

You did bring a number of them with the SYNCO teams, both for work and as lagniappe for the local grandees (it's a new fancy thing, after all), but, again, they are the customer version.

>>3669389
>>3669374

You direct your security teams to secure supply warehouses to prevent looting, and coordinate the distribution of MREs and blankets for any who need it. While they are at it, they take the time to inventory the stockpiles and ensure that they can be taken over quickly in case of emergency.

You are heartened to see that the Peacekeepers on the ground are doing a good job of preventing looting and ensuring that people displaced by the attacks have access to basic necessities.

The people working with Dr. Robertson report that a number of flights headed for Chicago and Toronto were redirected to Sudbury, just as a number of flights headed for New York and Washington DC were redirected to Gander, Newfoundland. More than 13200 passengers and airline crew members, equivalent to a significant percent of the local population found themselves forced to stay in the areas for up to six days until airspace was reopened and flights resumed. Residents of surrounding communities volunteered to house, feed, and entertain the travellers.

It seems that things are calming down a little. That's when you get an email from Carpatescu - he wants to see you immediately, in person.

# Point out that flying halfway across the world right now is unsafe and pointless, and you are more useful helping reconstruction workers coordinate with their headquarters and warehouses.

# Well, he's the boss - gotta go. With the noise canceling headphones of course.

# Go, but wait until Aki and Carla are back. You may be a cabinet level official but you don't want to bump engineers or doctors off any flights that are still functioning.
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>>3669412
# Point out that flying halfway across the world right now is unsafe and pointless, and you are more useful helping reconstruction workers coordinate with their headquarters and warehouses.
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>>3669421
This.
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>>3669412
>well he's the boss - gotta go.

I dont think we should fight him on these just yet
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>>3669431
>>3669421

Carpathia answers by calling you.

"You are never to disagree with me in public, Foreman" he says, clearly suppressing a snarl.

"But, man to man, I can see your point. Make your way to New Babylon as soon as it's safe to do so; we still need to discuss your budget. For the time being, I require you to focus on improving ground infrastructure, so that any such cowardly attacks have no repercussions on our fellow citizens. Complete the Network Nodes before any further stupidity befalls the world."

(You will have to use one of your actions this month to manually coordinate rebuilding teams, and go to New Babylon, as you can't postpone it for more than a couple of weeks)

In the next few days, things go back to normal; the hospital reopens, O'Hare closes off the destroyed terminal and rearranges schedules to make everything fit in the others.

One odd aftereffect of the attacks is that despite the understandable fear of flying that grips the world soon after, in order to accomodate the number of travelers having to deal with closed terminals, the amount of security screening at affected airports goes down significantly, with x-rays only used for spot checks rather than for everyone. You expected the opposite to be the case.

Outgoing US president Hugh Fitzgerald died in DC, supposedly shot by one of the Minutemen while attempting to surrender the militia detachment he had found himself at the head of.

By Carpatescu's directive, subpotentates have been ordered to run for elections in countries under their responsibility that still intend to have elections, including the US and Canada; Peacekeepers quickly move to become the face of the rebuilding effort, and people seem to be getting used to seeing them in the streets alongside regular first responders.

The handover of Northern Egypt to the United Carpathian States is completed without a formal vote, after preliminary polls from Cairo show that the population agrees to the handover by approximately a 60-40 margin.

A few smaller countries' governments formally dissolve and devolve their responsibility to the relevant Global Community subpotentate.

Carla and Aki make it back, unscathed; the young computer scientist is clearly still very shaken, having never witnessed death in person before. She's clearly upset at the concept of people dying. You aren't sure if it's best to let her be or not.

Carla has, uncharacteristically, a few harsh words for you: grand programs such as the Datalinks are well and good, but this incident shows how preparedness and a robust ground infrastructure are important.

As for you... it's time to try to get back to what passes for regular work.
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Hello, Foreman! You are planning CATS' operations for the month.

Rules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.Quest2Rules.html

Datalinks: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.Quest2Datalinks.html

Tentative timeline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BlMOSEOxSihj1gdagq7yxCjONaRBgcdlRxnc68uWf0A

Agents:

You can deploy yourself on ONE actions for a small bonus to all rolls. Your Nomenklator system can be issued to ONE team per turn, for a small bonus to all rolls.

Dr. Robertson can be deployed on ONE action for a large bonus to R&D rolls or a small bonus to any non-covert rolls.

Ryan Andrews can be deployed on ONE action for a large bonus to construction rolls or a small bonus to any non-covert rolls.

Moira McSingh can be deployed on ONE action per turn, for a medium bonus to covert rolls or a small bonus to all rolls. She can give basic combat capability to a work crew.

Aki Lattinen can be deployed on TWO actions per turn, for a medium bonus to R&D or construction rolls. She will hack into things if bored.

Performing an action outside of your home territory will also require the availability of (complexity) fleet assets, OR renting fleet assets out at the cost of 1/asset.

Free:

Move the Garibaldi (Mediterranean, Arctic, Atlantic, Indian, Pacific).

Buy equipment on the open market:
Power generation 1
Small arms 1
Network equipment 2
Fleet assets 2
Aerospace part 3
Supplies (food, fuel etc) 0.5


C0 (Agent):

Survey a territory for opportunity using an agent. Not surveyed: Northern Europe, Eastern Europe, India, Greenland, Japan, Indochina, Pacific Islands, Afghanistan, Madagascar, Sahara, Central Africa, Israel, Middle East, Western Russia

Undergo combat training (Max 1 per month)

Tail someone.

Buy equipment on the black market:
Small arms 1
Squad weapons 2
Stimulants 1

C1:

Reconfigure the Garibaldi (generic, cargo, hospital, strike, orbital)

Tail someone using a team.

Survey a territory for opportunity using a team.

Hire out a covert operations team for a situational reward.

Construct network equipment.

Construct a Cellular-Solar pylon. (+1 cellular or internet; requires 1 network part)

Make and sell consumer-grade Nomenklators (Net gain 1BN). Reveals it.

C2:

Do research (1~3).

Construct an aerospace part.

Construct a logistics hub (cap 1 fleet requirement for that territory; can deploy covert teams there with no advance notice; costs 1 power; stores supplies)

C3:

Begin directed-energy research

Recruit a work team

Schedule a satellite launch, which will happen at the end of NEXT month. Requires an aerospace part.

Do research (4~6)

C4:

Recruit a covert team

Do research (7~9).

Construct a network node. (unifies cell and net in that territory; costs 1 power, 1 network)

C5:

Rush a satellite launch, which will happen at the end of this month. Requires 1 aerospace part.

Construct a base and a network node at the same time (2 power, 1 network)

Do research (10).

What are your orders?
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>>3669465
Can we have Carla research preparedness?
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>>3669465
Shouldnt we have 12 work teams? I remeber us putting 3 on recruiting a work team last turn amd didnt we make a network node in china making us 8/10
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>>3669468

Carla is your in-house preparedness expert; she's an analyst, not a researcher, and her job behind the scene for the last two years has been to implement the preparedness programs that you research. For example, when your teams worked out how to use cell phone accelerometers as seismgraphs, she did all the grunt work in ensuring that natural gas and electric companies across the world actually installed tilt switches, so that earthquakes wouldn't cause fires in their wake.

(OOC note: She's there for flavor, not as an agent)
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>>3669473

Derp, you're right. Let me correct the map. Thanks for catching it!
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>>3669475
Also did our reasearch team fail sattalites or should it be at 6? Sorry to be picky about it.
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>>3669465
Have Dr. Robertson research SatelliteSolar 3 teams

Aki Research Ai 4 teams
Aki Research Defense 3 teams

Andrews Construct a logistics hub two teams in USA in a former Bunker.

4 teams recruit a Covert team with Moira.

We go and look around America for some former FBI or CIA guys to recruit.
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>>3669476

No, please do. I didn't update the map correctly after the war stuff. Also note that internet and cell coverage has decreased in at least one area, due to the damage from the attacks.

>>3669477

do you mean satellites, or cellular-solar?
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>>3669477
Anon we have 12 work teams, not 16.
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>>3669465
Ok i vote
3 teams network node in Britain with Ryan on it

4 team network node in africa. Have 2 covert teams go with them and Moria

3 team recruit a work team tem

2 team with Aki research preparedness

We go to new Babylon

2 covert teams work
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>>3669479
Im pretty sure we ended up doing sattalites. Did we switch?
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>>3669481

You have one action left, other than going to New Babylon.

Any specific territory in Africa?
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>>3669480
4 of them are covert....?

Wait guys we need to build a cellar solar tower to fix stuff.
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>>3669481
Oh we do have 12 im changing this too

>Ok i vote
>3 teams network node in Britain with Ryan on it
>4 team network node in africa. Have 2 covert teams go with them and Moria
>3 team recruit a work team with us
>3 team with Aki research preparedness
>We go to new Babylon
>2 covert teams work
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>>3669487
We should build the node in east coast usa since that place took damage and we lost some infrastructure.
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>>3669485
You were assigning them to "regular" actions. Which they can't by their nature do.

>Wait guys we need to build a cellar solar tower to fix stuff.
Yeah but we have a mandate so we should do that first so we can at least use that to defend ourselves when we've got to meet with the boss who currently kinda wants our head.
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>>3669489
America already has a node. We are compleating the mandate first. Then we can start helping other areas
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>>3669484
Gesit so whats the deal with the factory base in south america. Is it doing anything for us as we built it last turn. Do we have to do more to make the nomencalture factory?
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>>3669502
America can have 3 nodes?

And the east cost just took a hit, and our bass wants things back up and running properly.

>>3669492
Well unless everyone thought 4 teams with Moira means work teams or mixing covert teams around with the work crews its fairly self explanatory.
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A bit of good news in all this is that Capt. Steele (the British Navy guy, not the personal pilot of Carpatescu, who... apparently called the potentate at 3AM local time for some reason, and didn't get cut to pieces, so the big boss must have gotten his poker face back) has reached the Garibaldi and is having the outgoing XO teach him the ropes, so as to have a smooth changeover.

From here on out you will be able to switch her configurations for 1BN, the switch taking effect either immediately, or right at the beginning of the following month, at your choice.

Captain A. K. Steele is a competent seaman and former military officer. He has no particular area of excellence, but will do a good steady job in nearly any circumstance. He is not unfamiliar with "ungentlemanly warfare", as the British have historically put it, and in light of recent events wholly understands that an organization such as CATS needs to defend itself, but is unlikely to be enthusiastic should you wish to use the Garibaldi for less-than-savory acivities.

>>3669503

Your secondary HQ is incomplete, but available for use. Since you are contracting with local transport companies anyway, it negates the need for fleet assets in this region, as well as providing a backup for command and control functions. Simply due to the fact that it's in Santiago's territory, it has been designed to be highly defensible, to showcase her chosen ideology.

Buying an actual factory would have been more difficult in Dimmsdale's territory, but lines between government and private business are culturally easier to blur in South America. If you survey the territory yourself, you will find it easy to grease the necessary palms. You figure that the end result is going to be a small amount of passive income, assuming of course that Nomenclators continue to sell well.

>>3669506

Due to her background, Moira is able to work with both work and covert teams. If she is assigned to a work project, she will grant basic self-defense capability to the work teams involved.
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>>3669465
>>3669477
Revising mine to

Build one node in east cost USA with 4 teams
Build a node in north Africa 4 teams with 2 covert, take Andrews
Build a logistics hub in north Africa 2 teams with 1 covert take Moira. Give her the nomklators.

2 teams make Nomklators for our teams to use in the future.

last team goes with us to recruit agents in USA.
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>>3669506
Mixing covert and work should be explictily stated as they are of limited supply. Anyways yeah america and have 3 nodes look at the lines on the map 3 territories.
>>3669510
Ok so we need to go to south america to set it up. Ill change my plan to

>3 teams network node in Britain with Ryan on it
>4 team network node in africa. Have 2 covert teams go with them and Moria
>3 team recruit a work team
>3 team with Aki research preparedness
>We go to new Babylon
>2 covert teams work
>we go to south america

>>3669519
Why build a node in America its against our mandate??
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>>3669537
I didn't think it would be that confusing.

Be cause we lost infrastructure in the east coast from the terror attack.

I'll support this if you put the node in north or south Africa, reconfigure the carrier to strike, in case our teams need air support.
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>>3669543
His point is that we've still fulfilled our requirements for network nodes in the northern american continent. Meaning the construction of more there currently is unneeded. Especially since we've got higher priorities like finishing our mandate to construct one per Subpotenate's lands.

Fact is that the east coast is still fine for now. Their infrastructure is no worse than Iceland or western Russia or north-eastern Europe / Scandinavia. They will survive without issue.
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>>3669543
We can put a cellular solar node. If we are switching to strike then we need to buy 3 more fleet assets or we will be paying out the ass to vuild things again so ill change my plan too:

>>3669537

Spend 6 bn to buy 3 fleet assets
Spend 1 bn changing Garibaldi to strike

>3 teams network node in Britain with Ryan on it
>4 team network node in north africa. Have 2 covert teams go with them and Moria
>3 team recruit a work team
>3 team with Aki research preparedness
>We go to new Babylon
>2 covert teams work
>we go to south america
>Why build a node in America its against our mandate??
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>>3669550

> east coast of US having the same internet and phone coverage as Russia

> it's fine
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>>3669556
Seeing as Russia is currently being ruled by a technocrat? Yeah pretty much. They've still got functional internet and telephones, improving the networks can come later.
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>>3669555
>Spend 6 bn to buy 3 fleet assets
Wait where does it say that?
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>>3669559
I would think it took more than a few 2 or 3 years to catch up to us infrastructure, especially since they had collapsed recently.
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>>3669563

It says that in >>3669465


Buy equipment on the open market:
Power generation 1
Small arms 1
Network equipment 2
Fleet assets 2
Aerospace part 3
Supplies (food, fuel etc) 0.5 Up from 0.33 last month
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>>3669569
No I mean, where does it say we need 3 fleet assets to reconfigure our carrier.
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>>3669576
It dosnt but if we rent fleet assets it costs 3 per asset and we only get 1 turn of use. As we are moving 7 work teams for creating network nodes we need at least 7 fleet assets to do so without soending out the ass.
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>>3669576
Basically we need to replace the fleet assets we are loosing by making the garbaldi do other things
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>>3669569
geist, is it possible to take off the 57mm gun from the apc, and put that into an aircraft, and the minigun into another aircraft? can it be done by the crew on the carrier or would we need work teams on that specifically?
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>>3669589

The Antonov AN-2's can be set up for close air support, yes. All your military assets have been purchased or otherwise acquired with modularity in mind.

That said, putting a field artillery piece on the side of an AN-2 is probably dangerous; consider a spinal mount instead. This does, of course, make the airplane unable to carry passengers.
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>>3669543
So i changed it. Do you support?
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>>3669607
Well then the BMP turret guns would probably fit better...

Overall yes.
I'm trying to find out if we can give air support to the work crews or not by slapping some guns into them and firing out of the Vietnam style.

The only nuance is the carrier and configuring it.

If the carrier can't be configured in time, or the aircraft properly armed then that part should be scrapped.
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>>3669626
I would assume that our two covert teams can handle it. I think delving to far into how our helicopters planes etc too much will be detrimental to the quest. Its how spider tanks happened after all and we all know how that went. Also do you agree with revised plan or not?
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>>3669638
Well that was the only detail I was wondering about so if that's the case then yes move forward.
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>>3669655
>>3669638

(What's your plan then?)
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>>3669688
This one
>>3669555
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>>3669688
yup>>3669691
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We really ought to build more logistics hubs.
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>>3669720
Yeah we can do that with the other nodes. As we can do it as a complexity 5 action to do both together. Do like 1 a turn.
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>>3669730
what would be the total cost then?
7 bn?
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>>3669691
I'll back this too.

>>3669720
We can do that later. Our first priority should be to get all of our work teams equipped with Nomenklators. At a rate of 1 per month, we can manage to equip our all of our work teams in a year. Assuming we were to establish a production facility (south america) we could probably double that rate and afterwards use the facility to just produce the civilian grade ones for profit.

Equipping our covert teams might also be good but runs the risk of making them recognisable and the tech falling into the wrong hands.

Once we've done that, we can look into creating logistics hubs, bases and network nodes far more easily. Not to deny that we will do those whilst this occurs, just that the benefit to all actions would mean we might be able to skimp on certain action's allocations of work teams.

>>3669730
We could assign 4 teams and get a 80% chance of success. Assigning Ryan Andrews or Aki Lattinen would further boost that while still leaving us a work team free for other duties. Potentially worth the risk? I think it could be given it also saves us money since the cost of an action comes from deploying the teams as well as certain situational costs: fleet assets and particular resources needed to fulfil the act.
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>>3669742
Well 5 from work teams 2 from power 1 from network so actually 8. If we underman it to 4 it would be 7. Only be a 20%chance kd failure without a hero
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Thought I'd mention, earlier i thought Santiago was maybe doing some ethnic cleansing or giving people free helicopter rides, but now I think she may just be re-arming with making armored cars, guns, and maybe some light artillery?
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>>3669747
I agree making it 4 with ryan amdrews would probably make it almost guarnteed to suceed. We can make more then 1 nomenclature a turn no reason not too.

>>3669688
Gesit how many of our specialized nomenclatures do we have (in work teams) and whats the cost to make more.
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>>3669747
We control the infrastructure, we can make the stuff drop dead. Even if it did fall into enemy hands we can cockblock them from using reverse engineered stuff, like we did to the Chinese.

I think the best thing we can do its recover our dead alone with the equipment and make the field use nomklators fit snug and proper so they don't slip off even in combat or from bumpy rides, or even hand to hand combat.

I'd rather leave none to chance at this point, too many times it has failed on us.
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>>3669742
The total cost is a C5 action, 2 power and 1 network part. Network parts cost 2 Nicks and power costs 1 each. Meaning for a 100% success rate we're looking at a minimum cost of 9, before accounting for the need for fleet assets to enable such constructions outside of our logistic networks in which case we can add another 8 or so onto the costs for 4 units of fleet assets unless the Garabaldi is in a suitable configuration to takeover some of the transport jobs, in which case the cost variably drops by anywhere from 1 to 3 fleet assets (meaning 2 to 6 nicks).

Costs can be cut by using the C1 complexity action to construct network equipment. This carries a 100% success rate but comes at the cost of tying up one of our work teams for a month producing the parts. It does however save 1 nick compared to the other option. Admittedly, this comes with opportunity costs as well as the fact that the team could similarly make 1 unit of cash in the same period with the same success for the same difficulty, meaning the two actions are actually effectively the same: the saving from making the parts in-house equals the cash flow from selling Nomenklators to the public (which seeing as we already did it and have thus revealed it, carries no risks).
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>>3669747
>>3669764
Yeah i agree with EAHg65/T they already know we have em. We should give them to covert teams. No reason not too as we have preventative measure to keep them put of enemy hands.

>>3669772
As long as we have 5 fleet assets we can do it. We wont have to spend the 8 for the 4 fleet assets as we already bought them. Once we spend the 2 to own we dont need to buy then again. So technically if we only ise 4 work crews rn its free fleet asset wise.
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>>3669782
Did we agree to give Moira the nomklators for her team?
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>>3669782
Well they know they exist, just they don't know or have access to the fancy ones.
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>>3669786
Im not against it give em the nomenclature
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>>3669760
>We can make more then 1 nomenclature a turn no reason not too.
True but it would require tying up our work teams. Creating a factory to produce them enables constant, cost-less (potentially) background production meaning that we are always in supply or nearing it without expending additional effort. Especially should we need to equip many more teams of soldiers or workers.

>>3669764
>I'd rather leave none to chance at this point, too many times it has failed on us.
Fair enough. My main worry is someone associating the mercs (who most people don't know are actually the cable company's) using these better quality Nomenklators with us and it getting us caught.

>>3669772
Noticed a flaw in my working, my assumption for fleet asset costs is for 4 teams working on it, not 5. I apologise for this mistake in my math, I should really get some sleep.

Correction ---> 5 fleet assets costing 10 Nicks, Garabaldi supplies between 0-3 reducing costs between 0-6.

>>3669782
>As long as we have 5 fleet assets we can do it. We wont have to spend the 8 for the 4 fleet assets as we already bought them. Once we spend the 2 to own we dont need to buy then again. So technically if we only ise 4 work crews rn its free fleet asset wise.
I was unaware of this fact. I will attempt to account for it in future calculations and acquisition advisement.

To my previous understanding, our only source of "purchased" fleet assets (e,g not rented short term like I was talking about and is available from the turn-posts) is from the Garabaldi.
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>>3669808
We purchased fleet assets in the past. Thays why the map shows 4+2 the 4 is the ones we bought and the 2 is the garbaldi.

As I said purchased only have to be bought once so we only have the cost of 2bn once per fleet asset we buy.
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>>3669837
Huh. Weird: you'd think after getting the Garabaldi was treated as interesting and we had so many choices, that we'd do that again.
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>>3669844
The garbaldi was a special thing we got with ryan andrews. Not the fleet assets we were buying.
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>>3669808
If you think about it, it is worth spending the extra crew for %100 when the failure means we wasted a month, +4 cash, and 4 teams of productivity. When faced with these losses, an extra team and an extra bn is relatively cheap insurance.

It would be better to keep recruiting so we have enough full time teams to fill out a job completely.

As for the Ear buddies, we can make more commercial variants that resemble the ones we have in field so they don't look off the shelf.

Garabaldi, I'm thinking I should have configured to to picket.
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>>3669808
Also, I'm thinking we should form a PMC and "hire" our own security company with a contract. That might help us have an easier time recruiting and taking jobs. We form Blackwater with Erik Prince.

And we should talk to that Zevos guy and make him a proposition. I am certain he will take it, otherwise he may follow in his fathers footsteps.
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>>3669852
We already did the PMC thing they are called the somthing tigers.

Whi is Zevos its not ringing a bell for me.
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>>3669852
Tiger mafia. We let moria pick the name.
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>>3669847
>If you think about it, it is worth spending the extra crew for %100 when the failure means we wasted a month, +4 cash, and 4 teams of productivity. When faced with these losses, an extra team and an extra bn is relatively cheap insurance.
True. It does however offer the chance to accelerate our work schedule at the risk of this shit screwing up.

>It would be better to keep recruiting so we have enough full time teams to fill out a job completely.
Yeah but eventually we'll run out of people we can recruit from. Not a bad idea to continue recruiting but something we've got to keep in mind.

>As for the Ear buddies, we can make more commercial variants that resemble the ones we have in field so they don't look off the shelf.
True that'd work.

>Garabaldi, I'm thinking I should have configured to to picket.
Nah, generic is best for now. Once we're doing another wave of satellite launches, we might want to shift it about. That or if we get a few more teams of covert forces just so we can supply more vehicles / air support.

>>3669852
>Also, I'm thinking we should form a PMC and "hire" our own security company with a contract. That might help us have an easier time recruiting and taking jobs. We form Blackwater with Erik Prince.
Maybe.

>And we should talk to that Zevos guy and make him a proposition. I am certain he will take it, otherwise he may follow in his fathers footsteps.
I think we should introduce Ryan Andrews to him and see if we can't form a mutually beneficial agreement: after all, no government inspection stops our cargo ships for long and we've got plenty of spare containers to fill...

I honestly think however he's outlived his usefulness. In light of what has happened, the black market is going to lose a lot of stock, sellers and buyers very soon. Costs will rise and supply will almost certainly plummet. We're better off buying from our South american friends in high places.
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>>3669878
>>3669847
For the undermanned work crew thing. Statistically it shouldnt make a difference. If we wanted to have fun we could assign one work crew on everyhring amd watch it go crazy on percentages.
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>>3669887
True. Plus it means we could, with our current work team count, produce 3 of the base / hub actions in a month with a 80% success rate on each. Technically speaking, this puts us 0.4 ahead of producing 2 per month with 5 teams for each but doesn't account for the costs associated with the production of the material for these actions.

If only we could get a huge increase to our budget for half a year or so. That or a large government purchase of relevant material so we don't have to.
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>>3669918
On thing to consider is that named characters also increase percent . So named characters are more valuable when undermanning.
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>>3669927
Yeah that is the other reason that 3 per turn is so good. Between Aki and Ryan we can increase all three by the same amount.

Assuming it's even just a 5% increase on each, that provides 0.15 more per month.
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>>3669918

That did happen: you were issued a number of pre-built micro satellites to fulfill a mandate.

>>3669927

That is the case.

>>3669865
>>3669852

During a routine survey, you found that the US military almost made a large investment in unmanned aerial vehicles in 1992, when the company Zevo Toys passed in the hands of a recently retired 2-star general after its founder passed away. However, the investment was canceled at the last minute.

At the time of the Event, the Israeli military was the only significant investor in UAV technology.

>>3669867
>>3669865
>>3669852

Your security teams understand the need to operate under a false flag (or several) while in Africa, since Rehoboth has in it for you. That's what they came up with on about 10 minutes of brainstorming.

You are, effectively, already operating a PMC. The options given to you each month are a combination of what's going on, who is going on that deployment if anyone, the amount of ethical scruples that your security force has, and randomness.
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>>3669944
>That did happen: you were issued a number of pre-built micro satellites to fulfill a mandate.
Yeah but I'd like another one of those but for network parts or power stuff.

I suppose it's just something we can add to the list of things to set up production for in south america. Maybe in exchange for building a network hub in the other territory under her control she could throw us a bone...
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>>3669846
>>3669844

You were able to buy a decommissioned, but functional (albeit stripped of weapons) warship for scrap value - that sort of thing does not happen often.

>>3669950

You have found a few opportunities in that sense, but haven't followed up on them. For example, when you went to India, you were shown a low-tech, high-reliability power generation system.

At the time, you felt that recruiting a mechanical engineer was more of a priority.

Afterwards, you decided that the possibility of him unionizing your existing workforce was not worth the trouble.
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>>3669878
>I think we should introduce Ryan Andrews
Not till AFTER we renegotioate our deal with him, i wana tap his phone and computer to know how much he's skimming off the top. At the very least I want 50/50 split in the profits, or 40/60 in our favor. We can remind him that we don't take in any cash, and it all goes into CATs budget. If he doesn't like it, we can tell him we are gonna be marketing the Ear buddies and other projects more to bring in bigger bucks, and we will cut him in on more projects.
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>>3669990
>You were able to buy a decommissioned, but functional (albeit stripped of weapons) warship for scrap value - that sort of thing does not happen often.
Yeah I know but there was a few non-military ship options too. Like that one sail-cargo ship.

>Afterwards, you decided that the possibility of him unionizing your existing workforce was not worth the trouble.
Still think that was a dumb decision but hey what-ya-gonna-do. Don't suppose we could apologise and hire him?
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>>3669998
Yeah that was my bad i just accidentally insulted him.

For the ship options it was very explictily stated we could only have 1
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>>3669996
Agreed. We need to rein him back in and make him understand our relation here: he can manipulate the stock market relative to our actions and that sort of shit but if he proves to be an issue or costs us a dime more than he is worth he'll be gone.
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>>3670004
>Yeah that was my bad i just accidentally insulted him.
No problem.

>For the ship options it was very explicitly stated we could only have 1
Yeah but my point was it was a non-military ship.
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>>3669996
>>3670007

Andrews has let us buy a fookin aircraft carrier for pennies on the dollar, establish a nuclear fuel mine if we ever need it in a way that it basically paid for itself, almost always come thru in setting up network nodes, and generally been very useful without ever stabbing us in the back other than saying "By the way I am going to make some money off this". We never had to pay for any of his shenanigans. WHY are we giving him a hard time exactly?

"Yeah thank you for tapping my phone, I made my money anyway, bye now, go hire Shrek McLenin if you want because I'm out, by the way he knows jack shit about marketing and I know most of your secrets"
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>>3670025
Well i want to see how much hes making first before speaking to him.

I think the marketing part is him bragging in front of the camera's and trying to put his company in the spotlight.
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>>3670025
Also I don't think hes very tech savvy.

We shall see.
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>>3670025
I agree with you he hasnt fucked us over I think we shouldnt piss him off we are alreadycmaking money off of this.
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>>3670050
Not trying to piss him off, trying to renegotiate a better deal for both us, and also guarantee him first mover advantage in all our tech and goodies.

We would cut him in on bigger and better deals.
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>>3670004
>>3670016

(Stuff happens. I don't know if I should recap missed opportunities, mostly: thing is, some will stay missed until they show up again, some will stay missed forever, and some are just sitting there. Do you want me to?)

>>3670050
>>3670042
>>3670034

Andrews is working for you part-time; you can summon him at your convenience or, even simpler, do a video call. The only people who get to summon YOU are Carpatescu (who you've asked to delay), Dimmsdale, and Santiago -- and the last two are technically your peers, so it's really a matter of who wants to do a power play.

>>3669808

You can set up a factory; doing the marketing efforts and so on would still require a team, but that team can then sell the existing inventory rather than just the 1 unit they would get done. The hardware specs don't change much between months.

>>3669772

Opportunity cost is pretty much the theme of my quests, yes :) Great catch


Let me know if you have a plan! I'm working so resposnses may be a little slow. If you need details about anything, ask away, that's a free action!
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>>3670081
on a scale of 0-1000, what do you estimate our chances are of pulling through in the next 3 years?
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>>3670102
5 years actually
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>>3670102

You have an excellent chance of surviving the next 3 years. >95%

You have a very good chance of maintaining the Internet in a functional state in the next 3 years. > 85%

You have a good chance of getting rid of Rebohoth in the next 3 years. > 75%

You have a very poor chance of seeing Carpatescu overthrown in the next 3 years. < 15%

>>3670113

(Is one person posting from two different IPs?)

Going by the data you garnered from Pastor Barnes (available at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BlMOSEOxSihj1gdagq7yxCjONaRBgcdlRxnc68uWf0A )

You have a poor chance of surviving the next 5 years. >40%

You have a fairly good chance of maintaining the Internet in a functional state in the next 5 years. > 65%

You have an excellent chance of getting rid of Rebohoth in the next 5 years. > 95%

You have a very good chance of seeing Carpatescu overthrown in the next 5 years. > 95%
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>>3670126
No i was just correcting them for at least ending the game. These percentages are comforting.
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>>3670014
>I think after telling him to work under Andrews basically made him hate us.
Yep.

>>3670081
>(Stuff happens. I don't know if I should recap missed opportunities, mostly: thing is, some will stay missed until they show up again, some will stay missed forever, and some are just sitting there. Do you want me to?)
Nah it's fine I'm just saddened that you made all those cool sounding ships and we only get to see one. I kinda wanted to build a nice little fleet of oddities.

>You can set up a factory; doing the marketing efforts and so on would still require a team, but that team can then sell the existing inventory rather than just the 1 unit they would get done. The hardware specs don't change much between months.
How much would setting up a factory cost? Would we need a team dedicated to it every month for marketing & sales or only the first month? Would it produce a 1 Nick profit per turn?

>Opportunity cost is pretty much the theme of my quests, yes :) Great catch
Oh trust me it's something I'm way too familiar with.

>Let me know if you have a plan! I'm working so responses may be a little slow. If you need details about anything, ask away, that's a free action!
Excellent. Information is a valuable tool when we're fighting this war. Our enemy is bound to set motions, like an actor on a stage; we can fuck with them however we want so long as we acknowledge that fact.
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>>3670137

(Honestly, given that you got a 100 on the ship, it would have been quite interesting if you had picked the Leon/Eldridge... then again given how much use you got out of the IFVs so far, it'd have been a worse deal, overall)

Setting up factory infrastructure in South America is a complexity-4 job, being as you've already spent considerable effort setting up your HQ. You wouldn't own the infrastructure, save for the final assembly plant, so much as enter long-term contracts with suppliers, manufacturers, and local manpower providers such as trade unions (Corazon Santiago is in favor of those, incidentally, not because she particularly cares about worker rights, but because they provide a framework for workers to discipline; she is also in favor of professional guilds, for the same reason). This allows you to retain flexibility, since you may want to change your work orders month by month.

This setup will produce 1BN worth of nearly whatever you tell it to, each month, from consumer-grade Nomenklators that you can sell, to solar panels, to squad weapons. The obvious exceptions being nuclear fuel (even if they had the minerals, nobody would touch the stuff) and aerospace parts (as much as Santiago would love to have her own orbital capability, you would have to first get specialized manpower elsewhere, probably somewhere that used to have a space program).

The factory infrastrcture can also be set up to count as one team for the purpose of improving disaster preparedness, since they can be told to manufacture things like safety valves for natural gas, and sell them at zero profit in order to encourage their adoption.
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>>3669465

>C3:
>Begin directed-energy research

I want laser guns. Maybe not now but later.

Also are we ready to start launching big the big satelltes and how many parts do those cost?

Also you guys realize that this months SHTF was the first in a long line of many right? Read the prophecy chart.
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>>3670180
Hell we gotta make a ton of those. How many factories can we reasonably make?
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>>3670219
Actually wait wouldnt it just be more efficent to keep getting more work teams and putting them on the nomenclatire productions as that costs 3 to set up and this costs 4
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>>3670219

One is a good start. To be allowed to do all this without being fingered for diverting effort from your duty as a Global Community public servant, you'd have to be on very friendly terms with a subpotentate. Allying with one will do that; subduing one, or replacing them with a puppet ruler, will also do that.
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Rolled 929 (1d1000)

>>3670102
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZYNADOHhVY

This is required viewing for this quest also the last one.
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>>3670336
Oh sure when it's a roll for fun it's fantastic.
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>>3670336
Better save that shit for the last roll
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>>3670541
(I must admit that I am lost as to what the current plan is, as much as I appreciate and encourage the discussion!)

Fortunately, Aki doesn't mourn for very long, although Carla had to explain to her that it's really not the best thing to do to try cure death -while- grieving. She said she'll do it later, maybe.

You have a fair amount of fans of Sir Pterry in your workforce, and any distraction is welcome in the aftermath of the indiscriminate attacks - you lost nobody, but many in your crew know someone who died to the bombings or of radiation poisoning or is even now dying of plutonium poisoning. That they get a preview of the last two Discworld books ever to be published helps.

So you get one of your purchasing managers who happens to be a SCA geek to explain the sword to you.

"I guess you could call it a gladius, or a qama, although it's a bit too long to be either if you want to be historically accurate."

"Note that there's no patterns - he didn't try to make wootz steel or anything like that. This is the sort of sword you'd hang over the fireplace, not go into battle with. Mind you, it'll go through someone, and I'd wager it would go through a flak jacket even, but Sir Pratchett was a novelist, not a blacksmith - my SCA buddies have made better stuff, these days you can get better metal than meteoric iron for nothing. Nevertheless, it'd fetch a pretty penny of sold to a collector, I'm sure, just because of its origins, since we can prove them."

"Aki's probably fine with it being put on display, as long as it's somewhere within this building. If you were worried about it being radioactive, don't: we tested it with a geiger counter and it was frankly the least radioactive thing we ever used the counter on."

"I personally think it looks like Captain Carrot's sword, I like how it's completely unadorned."
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>>3670589
Current plan is
>>3669555
It hasnt really changed
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Rolled 99, 46, 31 = 176 (3d100)

>>3670671

Thank you!

The Garibaldi docks in Jacksonville, ostensibly to pick up a number of cargo barges and lighters, and contract for tugs and space on LASH conveyor ships.

Under the direction of Captain Steele, the carrier is refit to something resembling its original configuration; one of the lighters is modified into a landing craft for your IFVs and put on a ramp, the interior is refit to carry your Antonov biplanes under the deck and the deck elevator put back into operation, and the sensor arrays are put back into operation.

Just as importantly, the crew - mostly acquired from merchant marine ranks - is put through the paces of efficient aircraft and LC launch and recovery, alertness drills, and even boarding defense.

The flight deck is given additional netting and hinged hard-stops to be able to catch the Antonovs in case a landing with no wind becomes necessary, and additional fuel tanks are installed so that they can be deployed on multiple sorties.

The end result is a C551 Garibaldi that reminds you a little bit of the pre-event movie Waterworld, except without the rust. While she's not going to be very useful for transport operations except possibly as a very expensive oceanic tug, you now have your own combined arms platform.

As soon as commercial flights are reestablished, Ryan Andrews takes a few of your workers to London - via the Luton airport - to install the Network Node. Satellite communications are working noticeably better than ground comms, due to the damage to Gatwick and the nearby data hubs that served London's financial districts; Subpotentate Terry April is unavailable - rumor has it that she has been in New Babylon the whole time, possibly going over the insurrection reports, possibly in a state of semi-imprisonment - but a member of the royal family is available for any ribbon cutting. Local financial magnates tolerate meeting with Andrews, and express their hope that the new system will allow for a swift recovery.

In the meantime, the refitted Garibaldi takes position near on the coast near Laayoune; the Network Node for the Western Sahara region has, effectively, been completed at sea and is going to be installed and wired in as quickly as possible, with your security forces covering the work teams and Moira directing the operation.

Putting Aki to work on disaster prep may be a little cynical, but she is very motivated by the destruction she has seen; Carla appreciates the effort, and handles the management part of the work while Aki is asked to come up with new ideas that her team can follow up on.
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Andrews does a fine job: he even gets the Queen to show up for the ribbon cutting. A brief speech about the resiliece of the people in the face of adversity leaves some wondering why she isn't condemning the insurrectionists or the Peacekeepers' overreaction, but ultimately, what matters is that communications are restored and will be cheaper to improve upon in the future.

Your efforts to recruit another work crew are bolstered by your earlier decision to let the Ghilotti Brothers use some of your motor pool - they've come across as local heroes, they receive a lot of job applicants, and they are more than willing to send you people who are a bit too smart for them but are likely to do a good job for you.

Aki has to be steered away from deciding that "disaster preparedness" includes giant Tesla coils to zap incoming bad guys with; instead, she suggests that your R&D team do more with the sensors that by now all new cell phones come with. FM radio chips can be told, when not in use, to report unusual noise floors that may indicate seismic activity or hostile active radars; accelerometers can pick up not only earthquakes, but also train crashes; inertial measurement units on ships can automatically report unusual wave activity that won't be dangerous at sea but can cause problems when hitting the shore. Desktop PC hard drives can use their tilt sensors to further improve earthquake reaction times. Smoke detectors can be given basic connectivity to compile statistics about air quality or, conversely, tripped remotely to warn people if plutonium dust is in the air. Water filters can be outfit with a piezo crystal and timer, and a LED to flash when it's time to replace them.

And so, by becoming a little smarter, the work becomes more resilient. Most of Aki's ideas aren't really cost-effective, but some are, so your preparedness team draws up schematics and sends them out, free of charge, to consumer product manufacturers.

You also get good news from Morocco: to nobody's surprise, Rehoboth's men have made their move -- in this case in the guise of a local holy man claiming that the Network Node cell phone tower emits cancer-causing radiation, with obligatory attending angry mob to follow the night after -- but Moira managed to keep things calm by

# putting up a show of force, which is easy to do when you have tanks and gunships - a good training exercise for your combined arms, to boot

# having your security guys win hearts and minds by pointing out the new opportunities, play some soccer with the locals, and so on.... and dragging said holy man off in a dark alley the day after exposing him for a fraud by bumping into him and having a $1000 gold plated satellite phone fall out of the folds of his robe.
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>>3670881
# having your security guys win hearts and minds by pointing out the new opportunities, play some soccer with the locals, and so on.... and dragging said holy man off in a dark alley the day after exposing him for a fraud by bumping into him and having a $1000 gold plated satellite phone fall out of the folds of his robe.

Also give out free labtops and cell phone to families and village elders.
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>>3670902
This support
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>>3670957
Just to be clear we are going cheap cellphones like Nokia or Motorola, and "dell" computers.

>>3670902
Would be funny if we "inadvertently" made this guy give all his money and valuables out to all the elders in his family huh?
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>>3671006
Lol sure i think that was the default option i dont want to spend a bn on it
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Rolled 91, 26 = 117 (2d100)

>>3671006

You track the supposed holy man's phone to an address in Lagos, Nigeria, and have your men put him on the first bus bound in that direction after using said gold-plated cell phone to send texts to half his contact list saying that he's made half a fortune up north and is coming home to share it with the family.

A martyr would have been problematic; a laughingstock isn't. The locals are grateful for the Network Node, although Moira complains that she's going to get a bunch of spam calls from the new call center people were bulding, isn't she?

You have little hard evidence that Walking-Man (that's apparently the translation of the fake holy man's name: people here speak Berber Arabic, not Hausa) was working for Rebohoth, but who else could it be.

Your security teams are, on the whole, quite happy that there was no violence aside a bruised ego and a few soccer injuries - Moroccans don't go for the whole "European grass diving" thing, soccer here is played on an inch of dirt on top of concrete, and is very much a contact sport.

You expect to have further problems should you have to upgrade the infrastructure in Africa, but the Network Node will make doing so cheaper and more efficient.

Elsewhere, you find that the failed insurrection has lit up quite a few matches in the global tinderbox: your security teams have plenty of available work. Most of it is convoy-escort jobs in Africa and India, none of which is of particular strategic importance - food is plentiful, but things like medicine, water filters, and fuel aren't necessarily so.

# Take the escort jobs in Africa, leveraging the Garibaldi's presence.

# Take the escort jobs in India, leveraging the fact that the government there doesn't hate you.

# One of each.
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>>3671048
>take the escort jobs in Africa. The more fucked africa is the better for us
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>>3671048
# Take the escort jobs in Africa, leveraging the Garibaldi's presence.

We can take this time to bring FREEDOM TM to Africa.


I was planning on selling subsidized and cheap phones and labtops to make more widespread knowledge of Rebohoth's atrocities around all of Africa to stoke tensions and hatetrad towards him, and make popular uprisings against him easier.

I'd also like to find and speak to that UN african guy too if we can find him.

Also if we haven't already, start data-mining and tapping Rebohoth's officers, his family and many wives. Including Rebohoth himself of course.

We are going to try and steal his wealth, either through making electronic withdraws, or by Nigerian princes to cripple him.

I looked up the AN-2 a little more, and its much smaller than I thought. It won't handle firing heavy weapons out of the side, and may be better suited to strapping rockets and bombs to under the wings and fuselage.

Alternatively, we can put the BMP-1 turret guns as a forward or rear mounted tail gun, but it may just be better to have forward mounted machine guns and use it for strafing.

The mini-gun can fire out the side door though.
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>>3670881
> Aki has to be steered away from deciding that "disaster preparedness" includes giant Tesla coils to zap incoming bad guys with;

No?

> # Take the escort jobs in Africa, leveraging the Garibaldi's presence.

Lets draw Reheboth out
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>>3671242

That's definitely something you can -encourage- Aki to look at.

>>3671234
>>3671118

The best way to pave the way for that is by improving cell phone and internet infrastructure: that does include giving out terminals. It also includes subsidizing cell phone and internet plans.

The AN-2 can fire a M134 out the side, although it shouldn't be used for anything larger. Some have been adapted by the Cuban army air force to use helicopter rocket pods.

While it is possible for the Antonov to shoot a 30mm autocannon or even a 57mm light field gun if it's mounted ventrally, the main issue becomes aiming it; you can, of course, add a pan/tilt mount and aim using software, but that ends up taking up the majority of the fuselage.

Electronic warfare against Rebohoth is an interesting prospect; your HQ team starts laying the grroundwork for it..

You're unlikely to get away with buying attack helicopters anytime soon, but you can probably justify the purpose of a S-64 Skycrane, after which building a gun pod for it becomes little more than a welding exercise.

A number of people are moving into Cairo now that it's officially part of Carpatescu's personal domain; since we're talking about several dozen people with the contents of several houses and small workshops, they have formed a convoy, and have asked for people to escort them. The reward is not significant, but the business and commercial connections made this way are.
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Your men drive back and forth across the Sahel throughout the month, at the end of which some have taken to dressing like Bedouins while others have adopted mohawks and spikes welded on their trucks' front bumpers; the job has been remarkably easy throughout, as there is safety in numbers.

Until the day a bunch of raiders on RPG-equipped Vespas appear from over a sand dune, and charge, firing wildly.

# Countercharge with the IFVs and give the convoy time to veer off.

# Use the IFVs to shield the convoy from RPGs and call in the Antonov, that's what it's there for.
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>>3671325
# Use the IFVs to shield the convoy from RPGs and call in the Antonov, that's what it's there for.

Need to test out the flybois.

Also they are unlikely to outrun aircraft, make sure there are no survivors.
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This is possibly your single highest gas expenditure in two years: the rugged biplane takes off from the Garibaldi, clear the ski-jump ramp, head at just a hair short of Vne to the combat zone, and looks down as the IFV's have positioned themselves between the convoy and the attackers . Having an eye in the sky (your satellites have too low a resolution to show much other than a few smudgy pixels indicating the presence of vehicles on the desert road) lets you know that the intent of the raid is depredation, not destruction; there are a number of trucks and a couple of technicals hiding behind the dunes. Clearly the armed scooters were brought there by truck and unloaded.

The Antonov opens its side door and starts a pylon turn; the single M134 in your possession is brought to bear against

# the bikes - the sights and sounds of a minigun strafing the sand are unmistakable, that will stop them even if you don't score many hits

# the trucks in the back - they're not moving, so they are easy targets; let's remove the point of the raid to start with
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>>3671388
# the trucks in the back - they're not moving, so they are easy targets; let's remove the point of the raid to start with
Make sure the apcs do not let the bikes escape.
What am I looking at in this picture? Is that Photoshop?
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>>3671429

(I think it's war thunder with people being silly)

The Vespa TAP is not designed to shoot on the move, which doesn't stop the raiders any - they were mostly intending to intimidate the convoy into surrendering.

Looks like the intimidation play is going the other way; a few of the attackers stop to look at the aircraft above their head, then hear the characteristic sound of a minigun going off, louder than the ancient Soviet-era radial engines.

Your pilots can't really take a casualty count, but in a little less than one pylon turn, the attackers' rear guard is demolished; some vehicles simply sit there, the crew presumably dead, while two men get out of one of the truck to try and throw sand on an engine fire.

One particularly enterprising Vespa rider turns his bike uphill and tries to shoot a RPG at the Antonov, missing by a good fifty meters, but giving pause to the pilots - and is repaid for his troubles by being gunned down by fire from an IFV.

Looks like air superiority wins the day; your vehicles have taken little more than scraped paint as damage, and neither your side or the people you were escorting reports casualties.

The local escorts quickly join your soldiers in the mop-up.

# They attacked what they thought was an unarmed convoy: no mercy.

# Take prisoners and hand them over to local law.

# Take prisoners and interrogate.

# Let them run, their stories will be a good deterrent for the next batch of idiots.
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>>3671480
# Take prisoners and interrogate. They'll be a useful weapon against the Kang of Africa.
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>>3671523

The Vespas with recoilless rifles built into the saddle, leftovers from a French Foreign Legion experiment, aren't really the best idea, although they'll make for a nice souvenir; to your mild disappointment, the AN-2 pilot has to land in the dirt outside Laayoune, move fuel between tanks, and pack up the minigun before feeling confident enough to try a carrier landing - and decides to abort it, instead landing in a field in Laayoune and getting the plane back onto the Garibaldi by barge and crane.

The people you have captured, however, provide the sort of human intelligence that you would not be able to get from satellite and phone interception.

You make sure you get their confessions on nice, high resolution video.

Surprisingly, they are only indirectly related to Rebohoth: they were told about the convoy by an anonymous source which you quickly identify as a Rebohoth loyalist within the Peacekeepers' rank, but didn't really care about the politics of a bunch of enterprising Moroccans moving to Egypt to seek a better life. They mostly figured it was a case of free truck, free machine tools, and free silverware and jewelry.

# Highlight the identity of the informant and put this on the new, starting the propaganda offensive against Rebohoth.

# Save it for later.
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>>3671480
# Take prisoners and interrogate.

Might be useful to press gang them against
Rebohoth

>One particularly enterprising Vespa rider turns his bike uphill and tries to shoot a RPG at the Antonov
Shame we didn't' take this one alive.
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>>3671523
>>3671429

I'm all for playing Lawrence of Arabia but WE HAVE LITERAL BIBLICAL PLAGUES COMING UP, CAN WE PLEASE FOCUS.

>>3671242

Second this, but that's for after all the nasty supernatural stuf has happened.
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>>3671567
# Highlight the identity of the informant and put this on the new, starting the propaganda offensive against Rebohoth.
Tempted to put it out later but its best to strike while the iron is hot.

Make sure all the propaganda is coming from the people who were attacked and from "local police doing the interrogation".

>>3671575
If we kill off Rebohoth we can subvert part of the prophecy, if we kill him off to late, we end up helping fulfill it.
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>>3671567
> # Save it for later.

We can always put the launchers on other things. Where did they get the missiles? Do they know of any ammo dumps we could strike at and recover more ammo?
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>>3671575
Just saying, giant zappers seem to be good for the locusts.

Which are a high protien. Excellent food stock.
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>>3671575
What exactly do we have coming up. Do you have a better timeline for us?
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>>3671674
Wouldn't a electrical chicken coop metal wire mesh work better?

>>3671666
I think they are just surplus munitions left over from previous conflicts. Africa and Middle east are stocked full of this old soviet and post-war stuff.

>>3671707
>Tentative prophecy timeline, extracted from Bruce Barnes' computer before his untimely death : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BlMOSEOxSihj1gdagq7yxCjONaRBgcdlRxnc68uWf0A

If we do more theology research we might be able to learn more.
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Rolled 24 (1d100)

>>3671666
>>3671721

You don't exactly get an address... but you do get some GPS coordinates. Time will tell if they are any good, of course.

So far, you haven't really found many people outside Sudan who are loyal to Rebohoth; at best, they appreciate that under a corrupt leader they have wiggle room to do things, as long as they can get away with it.
You've been postponing it, but it's time to face the music: Carpatesco wants to see you. In person. A good thing is that you can report to him that every regional zone has a Network Node...

# Go (with the ear plugs on, of course).

# Go, bring someone along.

# Call.
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Looking at the timeline, it might be possible to subvert some of the prophecy and limit some loss of life when that sanctions and plague hits. We can likely limit the damage if we destroy the temple earlier than it was supposed to be destroyed but doing so may also risk one of two things.

1. It can accelerate the time line, reducing the amount of time we have left to prepare for the end game.

2. I can cause the timeline to scramble as the prophecy becomes disentangled from the timeline.

3. Nothing happens and we wasted our time knocking down a temple that gets smiten anyway.
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>>3671784
# Go (with the ear plugs on, of course).
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>>3671784
# Go (with the ear plugs on, of course).
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>>3671784
>go with the earplugs
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>>3671784
> # Go (with the ear plugs on, of course).

> Have a team on overwatch wearing earplugs and with video capable feeds im case we gotta go hot

That 24 though.
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>>3671784
>QM's name changes to giant explosion suddenly.
>rolled a 24 below %75 chance of success in same post as name change.

W-what did geist mean by this?
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Finally up again.

>(Honestly, given that you got a 100 on the ship, it would have been quite interesting if you had picked the Leon/Eldridge... then again given how much use you got out of the IFVs so far, it'd have been a worse deal, overall)
Oh yeah most certainly. Those IFV's have saved us so much trouble already.

>Factory stuff
Holy shit we should spend half a year just building these things (given 12 work teams, a complexity 4 task and our leaders, we can produce 3 100% per turn plus leader bonuses to make additional events occur like greater production or a start-up bonus). The sheer cash flow we might achieve would be insanely useful and provide a degree of independence from our overlord's whims. Not to mention if we get the right people, we could mass produce satellites and completely fill orbit with anything we want.

>The factory infrastructure can also be set up to count as one team for the purpose of improving disaster preparedness, since they can be told to manufacture things like safety valves for natural gas, and sell them at zero profit in order to encourage their adoption.
Excellent.

>>3670249
You are thinking of the C 1 complexity action to produce Civilian grade Nomenklators I presume? That produces a profit of 1, aye, same as this but it requires tying up a team month after month to achieve the same. What you forget to account for is opportunity cost, you want to constantly occupy 1 team whereas by building a factory, in 1 month for 4 teams, we effectively get the same production without limiting where we can spend our manpower. Plus it enables production of things like squad weapons or network equipment. Not to mention aerospace parts if we can find the right manpower.

>>3670252
>To be allowed to do all this without being fingered for diverting effort from your duty as a Global Community public servant
I'd argue ensuring consistent supply of valuable materials to fulfil our mandate comes within it and we're entirely within our rights to do it but yeah I imagine it could be manipulated that way.

> Allying with one will do that; subduing one, or replacing them with a puppet ruler, will also do that.
Note: this is almost certainly the easiest path to victory. If we can get North america, South america and Africa + maybe Europe or Russia working together under us we might be able to stage a coup and eliminate Satan's bastard before he pulls his tricks.

>>3670442
Humanity. Fuck. Yeah. What a terrible time to start raining.
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>>3670442
We'd have to hanger CATs mission directive. Expanding it greatly is what I'm getting out of this. We should finish the expert system soon and then finish off by storing a copy and getting whatever tech we can come up with to cancel the apocalypse. Only one problem. how do we stop the apocalypse if we can't make a Sonic containment vacuum tube?
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>>3672186
>Only one problem. how do we stop the apocalypse if we can't make a Sonic containment vacuum tube?
We could attempt to intervene in the prophecy before the lord can come down. If shit isn't in position, he can't do anything since he is eternally tied to prophecy.

Failing that, I guess our best bet is just advancing our nuclear tech and hoping we can nuke the bastard out of existence.
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>>3672151
I think the plan was making the Americans our stronghold. makes sense, and would be easier. I'm only partial to Africa since we are intent on throwing out the current guy, so we may as well install our puppet.

>>3672186
I had hoped our space ambitions would do that, and I was honestly surprised Carpatescu not only made a space agency but also gave it to someone else...

The only way we can usurp or undermine this is if we convert our carrier to start satellite launches or buy a cargo ship to do that...
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>>3672151
> eliminate Satan's bastard before he pulls his tricks.

Killing him advances the timeline. He's not our only enemy, hell he's destined to lose.

Rebelling against him and starting a war is also an advance of the timeline.

We have to stay on his side, and he has to survive. Otherwise we're just playing key roles towards Armageddon.

Yes it's unfair. God is like that.
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>>3672192
There is also the problem of delivering the payload which i partly half the problem with nukes.

Take a look at and best korea, they got nukes but next to no effective or advanced enough delivery method
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>>3672198
All we have to do is pick the Astronauts, and the systems


We should really look into copying Carpatescu's ability.
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>>3672204
Are we spying on our boss? I hope we are, otherwise we have to start... But I want to do a mole hunt for any spies before doing that.
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>>3672198
>I think the plan was making the Americans our stronghold. makes sense, and would be easier.
Agreed. It's probably easiest seeing as we've allied with the south and we are headquartered in the north. If we can get both leaders to work with us then we can almost certainly do amazing things. Worst comes to worst however we might need to replace North america's leader too.

>I'm only partial to Africa since we are intent on throwing out the current guy, so we may as well install our puppet.
Oh I agree. My main reason for saying we need those additional regions is so we can more easily eliminate Carpatescu. Rather than having to fight through Africa, if we can secure it, we just need to fight through the middle east for example.

>I had hoped our space ambitions would do that, and I was honestly surprised Carpatescu not only made a space agency but also gave it to someone else...
I think he did it to shut us up ironically. Which is a shame, had we not pushed him on it perhaps he would have granted us a greater level of control over space at least for telecoms stuff.

>The only way we can usurp or undermine this is if we convert our carrier to start satellite launches or buy a cargo ship to do that...
That or if we build / restore a launch facility. Still entirely feasible to just rely on our current ship to do it since even it's orbital configuration still supports a little carrying capacity. All it costs us is the ability to move vehicles and fly planes which can be sustained instead by bases in region.

>>3672204
>Killing him advances the timeline. He's not our only enemy, hell he's destined to lose.
Fine, fine let's assume his death outside of how it is meant to isn't a solution. What about stopping the 2nd and 3rd Trumpet judgements? I know it's leaving it a bit late into our schedule but they are meteors, if we assemble sufficient space assets we can almost certainly stop them from colliding with the earth.

Alternatively, we've got to get our bio-research program in south america up and running NOW. That way we might just manage to develop a counter to the super plague that is coming up next and throw the prophecy off track.
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>>3672206
True. We can at least rely on the pre-event ICBM's that we use for satellite launches being good enough for this work rather than having to produce our own.
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Alright this focus on space is like the old quest but remember the last one getting to space took half the quest and making the ship took the other half. We need to prevent Armageddon on Earth not leave before it happens.

Now the prophecies we know CAN be prevented, but that's harder than doing anything else. We're short on time. We need to find something exceedingly vital to the conclusion of the apocalypse and prevent it from ever happening. The tripocalypse canon says it's preventing Jesus from speaking, buy look how well that worked for us in the first quest.

Another point that we've been looking at is keeping the Antichrist from dying but this isn't 100% garenteed to work. Prophecy also says that satan can just possess his sons body and we know that killing figures vital to the end times will in fact see them reincarnate so killing him after Satan possesses him is also a crapshoot. We need to for all the blasphemy in the sentence prevent a significant amount of the prophecy to keep Christ from returning. That's a tall fucking order. We also don't get a garentee that the if we "fulfill" the prophecy with enough subversion we win, so we should be asking what can we screw and where?
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I propose we target the economic sanctions first. Let's try to prevent the plagues and if it works we can potentially minimize the rest of the plagues and slowly snuff out Armageddon.
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>>3672262
I've gave 3 different prophecy points we can intervene at. 2 are directly after each-other which should enhance the disruption.

Part of the problem is we can't stop earthquakes or rivers and oceans turning to blood. Sure, we can prepare for both and prevent it being an issue (we did the same last quest, the Nile turned to blood if I remember rightly and we still managed to save the region).

>>3672266
Agreed, to do so I advise the South american bio-research must go forward however. That way even if we do fail to prevent the actual sanctions, we can still potentially provide a cure.
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>>3672241
>we might need to replace North america's leader too.
We helped lock up alot of nationalists, if they got sprung.. .well.... they would be grateful to us, and not so grateful to the guy (they think) that locked them up. Just pretend we are one of them or something. Throw in some dog whistles.

>I think he did it to shut us up ironically.
We did troll him a bit on that, partly our fault, we should have taken that as our green light and ran with it and if he asked, we say what we where hypnotized to believe.

>That or if we build / restore a launch facility.
I'd advocate for a ship based launch since it can be done on the down low and incognito.

Not many people have ship based attack abilities anymore so it should be fairly safe compared to doing it on land.

>if we assemble sufficient space assets we can almost certainly stop them from colliding with the earth.
With what? A nuclear Casablanca howitzer? Pew pew Lasers?
>Inb4 spider tanks

>Alternatively, we've got to get our bio-research program
We will either lack the funding or the time to research. Even if we sacrificed the factory for making nomklators we still end up running into budget and manpower issues particularly capable capable characters to lead it.....

Which puts us back at needed to recruit.

I think nomklators need to come first though.

>>3672262
There is also the problem of even if we do "win" how do we deal with potentially living under the yolk of antichris and/or satan?

>>3672266
Can we let the plagues ravage Africa so its less mouths to feed? That or maybe Asia? I doubt we can prevent it all so I think it would be best to form "cordons" and allow the plague to burn out in some areas. Ideally separated by continents. So we may be able to actually save most of the new world, while sacrificing the old world.
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>>3672274
If the target is to protect the sea and freshwater sources we should assume the meteors won't come from the stars but be formed within earths atmosphere. Stationing just the right kind of launchable machine to move the meteors out of the way closer to the impact sites after using a initial prevention system should enable us to direct the meteors away from the water sources.

The problem is designing the system. We would have to basically make rockets that attached themselves to asteroids on impact and continue thrusting to move them out of the way. Otherwise George lucas will want his tractor beams for the next starwars sequel.
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>>3672274
I was thinking of controlling which subponte's die. Namely two African ones, and one "other".

First would be Rebohoth, second would be his replacement, third I'm thinking dimmsdale or the Australian one.

I'm hoping the two "kings" being killed in African would be like a game exploit where we "win" on technicality.
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>>3672282
1. Simple, humanity without guns is wrong.
2. Sacrificing one area may work in part. But we should also look at the possibility it makes the prophecy harder to stop.
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>>3672283
We could try to hardball the new space agency to work with our plans or goals or we can just bypass them. We saw how happy or desperate they were to do something useful. We are practically their only customer.
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>>3672287
Well a huge chuck of humanity is suppose to die in a lot of these events. if we can make it out with at the end with least 1 billion or a few hundred million then that would close enough to a win for me.
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Hmmn. Can we ask anyone knowledgable about endtimes theology if a living Christian witness is needed for Christ to win at the very end, cause alternative to wining through breaking the story we CAN potentially win by removing the most important playing faction and then fighting the incompetent remenants.
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>>3672282
>We helped lock up alot of nationalists, if they got sprung.. .well.... they would be grateful to us, and not so grateful to the guy (they think) that locked them up. Just pretend we are one of them or something. Throw in some dog whistles.
True. That would certainly work but we'd first need to find his new replacement and make sure he's on our side.

>We did troll him a bit on that, partly our fault, we should have taken that as our green light and ran with it and if he asked, we say what we where hypnotized to believe.
Yeah.

>I'd advocate for a ship based launch since it can be done on the down low and incognito.
True.

>With what? A nuclear Casablanca howitzer? Pew pew Lasers?
Well off the top of my head, a fold-out solar sail would be able to slowly drag it off course (which is all we need to do, it just needs to not hit earth, pretty simple but I get what you mean) but if we could somehow get a Casaba howitzer (not casablanca) it would certainly do the job but is a bit single use.

>We will either lack the funding or the time to research. Even if we sacrificed the factory for making nomklators we still end up running into budget and manpower issues particularly capable capable characters to lead it.....
True but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. I agree factories come first but the moment we've got 3 or 6 done we should shift all focus to other factors.

>There is also the problem of even if we do "win" how do we deal with potentially living under the yolk of antichrist and/or satan?
He isn't so bad a leader whenever he isn't trying to bring about the end times. So long as he isn't exposed, he should be okay to remain in power...hopefully. Worst comes to worst, we induce a coma and rule in his stead with the support of as many Subpotentates as possible.

>>3672282
>Can we let the plagues ravage Africa so its less mouths to feed? That or maybe Asia? I doubt we can prevent it all so I think it would be best to form "cordons" and allow the plague to burn out in some areas. Ideally separated by continents. So we may be able to actually save most of the new world, while sacrificing the old world.
I'd rather not but we might need to abandon a region or two.

>>3672283
>If the target is to protect the sea and freshwater sources we should assume the meteors won't come from the stars but be formed within earths atmosphere.
I doubt that god thinks humanity wouldn't notice the giant rock that appeared from nowhere. He might try it aye but it just seems kinda unreasonable.

>Stationing just the right kind of launchable machine to move the meteors out of the way closer to the impact sites after using a initial prevention system should enable us to direct the meteors away from the water sources.
Unless it is targeted for the middle of the Atlantic or something, in which case we're screwed.
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>>3672262
The other quest was on a scale of centuries as well, not a decade in a period of limited tech.

There's no space escape here.
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>>3672285
>I'm hoping the two "kings" being killed in African would be like a game exploit where we "win" on technicality.
That would be quite brilliant but I doubt god will go down like a bitch that easily.

>>3672288
That might work, fact is as of this moment in time there is little interest in space from private industry (since we do all telecommunications and shit) which means all they can reasonably do is space stuff for pure scientific or fuck-yeah reasons. Stuff that is almost certainly not going to get them the big bucks especially in the new world where terrorism is in the headlines and shit.

Plus, we can almost certainly infiltrate their staff and slowly takeover the organisation if worst comes to worst.

>>3672303
Yep. Plus we don't have a nice convenient god-provided dome of ice to use for fuel and respite so costs are far higher.
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>>3672301
Re Carpatescu - we subverted an Angel, he can't be more narcissistic than that.

So long as he gets to keep his position, he's shown a noted disinterest in actually managing things.
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>>3672320
>Re Carpatescu - we subverted an Angel, he can't be more narcissistic than that.
The angel suffered amnesia of it's time in godly service to my recollection. Carpatescu is not exactly in a position for us to try that.

>So long as he gets to keep his position, he's shown a noted disinterest in actually managing things.
I still say giving him a disease that won't kill him but would induce comas, drowsiness, narcolepsy and so on. Make him unfit to rule or at least unable to spare us any time to complain or inspect our actions.

If we can put him in a coma and keep him in a ultra-secure hospital then he can't do shit but still lives: preventing the apocalypse at least regarding him.
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>>3672331
> Carpatescu is not exactly in a position for us to try that.

*Yet*. God helps those who help themselves.
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>>3672331
If only we could stick his soul into a machine or something.

Hey, isn't Aki working on something sorta like that?
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>>3672335
>*Yet*
Yeah I know, to be fair if we could somehow give him that shit Steven Hawking had that would be great too. Honestly anything that prevents him speaking or appearing in public.

It just occurred to me, if we did actually manage to do that we would make him lose his voice and thus his main magic-power. Only issue is that the degeneration of the CNS is usually pretty deadly and kills very fast. We'd be playing with fire if we tried it.

>God helps those who help themselves.
Not in this universe he doesn't.
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>>3672341
Or we could just traumatize him so loses his voice. Smoke inhalation or some such could fuck that up.

Depends if it even IS speech.

Or we could learn to mimic it, and use it on him. We gotta get a wide spectrum nomenklator that picks up sounds outside the normal range of hearing to fet accurate data.
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>>3672348
>Or we could just traumatize him so loses his voice. Smoke inhalation or some such could fuck that up.
True but my main point is that neutering him personally but allowing him to remain in power is probably a good idea assuming we can do it without suspicion. Failing that, he gets to live on a small island for the rest of his unnaturally extended existence.

>Depends if it even IS speech.
We know it requires him to speak / be heard since that is all we've ever seen him use it through / by. It is possible we are wrong but we've got to just go with what makes sense and hope.

>Or we could learn to mimic it, and use it on him. We gotta get a wide spectrum nomenklator that picks up sounds outside the normal range of hearing to fet accurate data.
That would be nice. It would also make dealing with a certain African situation far easier: imagine just convincing the bastard to take a gun and shoot himself in the head after writing a suicide note implicating every one of his corrupt bastards and talking about what he and they did.
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>>3672301
>I doubt that god thinks humanity wouldn't notice the giant rock that appeared from nowhere. He might try it aye but it just seems kinda unreasonable.

Could be produced from say radioactive or toxic materials that fall from satellites.

>Plus, we can almost certainly infiltrate their staff and slowly takeover the organisation if worst comes to worst.
Give em free ear buddies, so they only end up hiring all our covert teams hehe.

>>3672331
We would probably need to design and build a state of the art facility with so many redundancies its not even funny, just to hold him.

>>3672348
I doubt that could work. The nomeklator idea is good though.

>>3672355
Its more or less sound, we tested it and it works, we were just to chickeshit to deviate too much from what he told us to do.
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>>3672355
Or have him go all bi-polar narcissist paranoid skizo, and kill all his guys then himself.
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>>3672366
>Could be produced from say radioactive or toxic materials that fall from satellites.
True.

>Give em free ear buddies, so they only end up hiring all our covert teams hehe.
Kek, all your base are belong to us.

>We would probably need to design and build a state of the art facility with so many redundancies its not even funny, just to hold him.
God ain't allowed to pull his dirty tricks yet. He's held down by the same stuff the will potentially free him. Which means that until the Angels rise from the Euphrates, we should be fairly free of interference.

>Its more or less sound, we tested it and it works, we were just to chickeshit to deviate too much from what he told us to do.
Yeah I know I'm just arguing the point.

>>3672367
Yeah but we want to make it clear why all this happened. Maybe we come out at the same time and reveal we'd been investigating the man ourselves and that we were a few months off of revealing him to be this big of a bastard. Make our recommendation for a particular puppet leader and call it a day.
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>>3672355
Inhibiting his hypnotic ability would weaken him and make him reach out to stabilize his power base.

Which we are a significant part of already, and could be more of. Especially with our allegiance with Santiago who is vocally supportive of him, and if we can puppet or ally another Potentate.

All of our concerns about Carpatescu ruling comes second to surviving Armageddon though. He's still mortal, after all. He'll die eventually.
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>>3672375
>Inhibiting his hypnotic ability would weaken him and make him reach out to stabilize his power base.
True but it would also limit him to a purely human level. Ignoring his near-superhuman endurance which I think is probably because he doesn't experience pain / exhaustion like we do.

>Which we are a significant part of already, and could be more of. Especially with our allegiance with Santiago who is vocally supportive of him, and if we can puppet or ally another Potentate.
Yep.

>All of our concerns about Carpatescu ruling comes second to surviving Armageddon though. He's still mortal, after all. He'll die eventually.
Agreed. However there are somethings we can do to him that prevent or slow down Armageddon potentially.
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So I just did some quick math regarding the factories, we can more than double our effective budget in 5 months, starting with 13 cash. If we want to do it in 4 months, we need a minimum of 30 cash.

Also assuming the market holds for whatever we have these factories producing.
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>>3672400
Ech, it's honestly easier I think to keep those options as "emergency backup" compared to keeping him healthy and continuing his role than dealing with the fallout of no unifying figure and the splintering of governance resulting from that.

Shit would be fucked and we would have to fix that as well as escape armageddon.

We don't have the resources for that, and if we did keeping Carpatescu as a figurehead would be easy at that point without the risk of the loss of instability
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>>3672445
Yeah true but worst comes to worst, it's a way of avoiding the anti-christ stage of the plan: can't resurrect what can't die!
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>>3672448
That's why I wanted to look further into Aki/AI melding to make a robo-soul emergency plan to download Carpatescu if he was mortally wounded to cock-block any resurrection.
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>>3672451
I doubt that is in the cards, such technology is probably not within our reach.
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>>3672452
Ech, Aki seems shockingly close to it.

But we would probably have to focus research in theology and AI and give up on space. But good luck with that vote.
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>>3672456
>Ech, Aki seems shockingly close to it.
I somewhat doubt it but we can certainly check.

>But we would probably have to focus research in theology and AI and give up on space. But good luck with that vote.
Clearly all we need to do is grow our number of work teams and work on everything at once.
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>>3672451
I doubt tha twould work, since its more likely that his body is a vessle for satan so it not having a soul just makes it easier or more convenient to posses.

After Carpsu dying in the first place is likely his soul leaving the body and the body being possessed and revived by satan.
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>>3672282

>There is also the problem of even if we do "win" how do we deal with potentially living under the yolk of antichris and/or satan?

we RIP AND TEAR his ass when he's no longer useful. if we can beat turbo jesus we can beat satan.
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So i've been too busy playing Sundered to play this quest, could i get a recap?
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>>3672151
No we can get a work team for a 3 complexity action.
A factory is a 4 complexity action. Geist said the factories make 1 bn worth of stuff a turn. So do the work teams. We are getting an immobile thing that can only produce for 4. While we have a flexible thing that can do the same as the factory for 3. There is literally no reason to get factories as long as we can get work teams for 3.
Even if you argue we can produce thinga like sattalites we normally couldn't the extra money the work teams could make outstrip that.
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>>3672614

Good morning!

https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/ Here's the best recap ever :)

Seriously though, recap is as follows:


In two years, CATS has pushed the Internet about ten years forward. Blogging is a thing, social media is still pretty niche, people are starting to use their cell phones (most of which are still the Nokia 3310 sort, but with data) to order pizza online, everything looked good.

On the side, CATS acquired a small aircraft carrier, a few wheeled tank destroyers, and some AN-2 biplanes, set up a private military company, and got involved into a low-intensity conflict in Africa.

And then a bunch of nationalist holdouts from the US, UK and Egypt stormed airports and universities in an attempt to get people to reject Carpatescu's new world order.

Stupidly, the newly minted Peacekeeper organization retaliated by... dropping a lot of nukes on the rebels. The nukes did not initiate, since plutonium bombs no longer work for reasons as yet unknown, but acted as dirty bombs, releasing a lot of toxic plutonium dust (which is still mildly radioactive, as well as poisonous chemically).

Carpatescu has picked up all the subpotentates in some sort of stealth airliner and is in New Babylon debriefing them; you have to go there yourself.

Rather than playing hero, you stayed back at HQ to coordinate the relief effort, which worked overall pretty well.

Your people have developed a partial counter to Carpatescu's hypnotic abilities - you still ended up obeying his orders, but you were aware that there was an attempt to override your will.
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>>3672456

Reading this discussion warms the cockles of my heart. I'm glad people are having fun!
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>>3672626
>No we can get a work team for a 3 complexity action.
Yes. There is however a definite limit in how many we can recruit from the global population.

>A factory is a 4 complexity action. Geist said the factories make 1 bn worth of stuff a turn. So do the work teams. We are getting an immobile thing that can only produce for 4. While we have a flexible thing that can do the same as the factory for 3. There is literally no reason to get factories as long as we can get work teams for 3.
You mean besides being able to effectively expand our budget beyond the limitations of our work teams?

>Even if you argue we can produce things like satellites we normally couldn't the extra money the work teams could make outstrip that.
Except there is a limit to how many work teams we can have anon.

Not to mention you are talking about constantly occupying teams to equal a factory. If we are talking short term, sure that works, but long term it doesn't.

Consider that 4 work teams construct a factory and then 4 turns later (while they've been doing whatever) it breaks even and everything after that is "profit". That is to say that by setting up a factory you are effectively making a per work team per month profit increase of 0.25 in the background as opposed to what you suggest which is a flat increase in our funding of 1 per work team per month. If we were to build a factory right now, by the end of the game it would have made more than twice our initial investment in profit.


>>3672636
OP please answer a question for me, I assume that much like in the previous game that there is a fairly hard limit in terms of how many people exist to be hired that are suitable to form work or covert teams?

Also, I assume factories can produce network equipment and other such 2 or 3 cost things, it just requires more factories / time to do so?
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>>3672648

There is a soft limit, past which your agency will be audited. You are in fact approaching it.

You will be warned when you hit it. If the audit goes well, the only consequence will be a small reduction in budget because the money will be used to pay the additional base salaries. If it does not, the consequences range from a slap on the wrist to execution for treason.

Should the conditions in the world deteriorate sufficiently, that will no longer be a factor since the GC bureaucracy will have more important things to worry about, but at that point you will become responsible for feeding your workers.
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>>3672648
I have no idea how you are getting the 0.25 profit math. We cancput them on nomenclatures which makes 1 so its a profit of 1 should we choose to make it. And yes there is a limit im sure im just saying we should recruit work teams till we reach that limit as they are more valuable then factories in every aspect untill the price to make them is the same.
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>>3672653
See we can reach that limit then make the factories
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>>3672648

Don't assume that today's prices are tomorrow's prices. Also, keep in mind that (again, unless the condition of the world severely deteriorates) you can only -sell- certain things.

>>3672657

Also don't assume that the conditions that will allow you to easily build factory infrastructure will stick around. Should the world's condition deteriorate, you may have to make do with what you have, or even commandeer/invade what other people have, because large scale infrastructure investment may become difficult.

Part of why you were able to advance the internet 10 years in roughly 2 is that, thanks to the Eden fertilizer, very few people in the world go hungry.
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>>3672653
>There is a soft limit, past which your agency will be audited. You are in fact approaching it.
Knew it. I presume it's around 15-18 teams?

>You will be warned when you hit it. If the audit goes well, the only consequence will be a small reduction in budget because the money will be used to pay the additional base salaries. If it does not, the consequences range from a slap on the wrist to execution for treason.
Would there be only one audit or would it be something of an ongoing basis?

>>3672655
>I have no idea how you are getting the 0.25 profit math.
Factory produces 1 unit of profit per month. Takes 4 teams to set up. 1 divided by 4 is 0.25. Math.

>We can put them on nomenclatures which makes 1 so its a profit of 1 should we choose to make it.
>And yes there is a limit im sure im just saying we should recruit work teams till we reach that limit as they are more valuable then factories in every aspect untill the price to make them is the same.
>>>3672657
Except the price for work teams doesn't particularly change, it's the difficulty in finding suitable members of the public who fit into our teams. So long as you understand now however that there is a fundamental utility and need for factories I see little need to push this issue further for now.
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>>3672665
Ok in that case a work team is a potential profit of 0.33 as its 3 to 1. In which case the work team is still a better investment
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>>3672665
Once we hit that limit im perfectly happy to start making factories though
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I offer a modest proposal.
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>>3672663
>Don't assume that today's prices are tomorrow's prices.
I understand the fact that a loss of world trade, population or massive disasters will reduce supply, increase demand and raise prices, aye.

>Also, keep in mind that (again, unless the condition of the world severely deteriorates) you can only -sell- certain things.
I get that but to be fair, even if we end up just using the factories to produce network parts, power generation, supplies and so on that still reduces our budget expenditure.

>Also don't assume that the conditions that will allow you to easily build factory infrastructure will stick around. Should the world's condition deteriorate, you may have to make do with what you have, or even commandeer/invade what other people have, because large scale infrastructure investment may become difficult.
That is the other issue too, if we leave these sorts of plans until after the situation deteriorates they take more time and resources. Plus we get more benefit the sooner we do them.

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>>3672671
Fair counter point with the potential profit of a work team. I honestly kinda agree with you that factories seem kinda neutered in this version of the game compared to the last one. The sole factory we built in that was always useful for the space projects since it was objectively better than teams given the known demand.

Speaking of known demand, assuming we want a network node in every region by the end-game, we need around another 13 network parts and the same again in power generation. Total cost: 39 units of cash at current prices.

>>3672673
Truly a visionary leader is what we are.
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>>3672673
Brilliant.
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>>3672677
Honestly im just arguing that factories should be more valuable as they are stait up statistically worse then the work teams as of right now. We just dont have a real reason to get them.

Luckily that 39 really isnt too expensive for us rn.

>>3672673
Excellent plan. Set all work teams on coverting.
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>>3672682
>Honestly im just arguing that factories should be more valuable as they are stait up statistically worse then the work teams as of right now.
Yeah, it is kinda odd how a factory that takes 4 work teams to pull together produces the same amount per turn as 1 of those teams if dedicated to the same production.
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>>3672673
Hold on i have another idea.
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>>3672673

That would make for an interesting quest too but I don't know if I am qualified to run it.

>>3672665

Certainly less than 20.

The audit would require you to shed excess personnel, likely from your apparently oversized security forces.

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>>3672690

(OOC note: i have lived in the subculture that was Left Behind's target audience, when I was a teenager, which is probably why I am somewhat familiar with it. I don't mind people believing in God. I do however very much mind things like state legislators saying stuff like "That museum docent won a debate with a young earth creationist, clearly his department has too much money if they have time to do such things, let's cut their funding", which has happened, and not even that long ago).

Should you wish to do that, the accepted procedure for it is visiting a pastor and reciting a prayer of contrition with them.

On that note, Tsion Ben-Judah has disappeared: supposedly, he's murdered his wife, children and chauffeur/manservant after evening prayers "to ensure that they would go to Heaven" and has been missing since. Authorities suspect a murder-suicide.

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>>3672684

As most economists will tell you, vertical integration (owning all or part of your supply chain) is less price-efficient than horizontal integration (being able to play the global market and helping liquidity within it), but is less brittle and more failure-resistant. It's cheaper to buy widgets from China, but if you end up on the other side of China in a war (hot, cold, trade, flame), it's sure nice to have a widget factory in Wisconsin, no?

(Like everything it's a tradeoff).
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>>3672692
Well we aren't in this to make money but to sieze control of the destiny of Man, so I say we make some goddamn factories now while they're cheap/available.

As opposed to waiting too long and getting owned. I don't much care about the money so much as I care about stable production of things we won't be able to buy.

I mean, shit, if we can get into producing aerospace parts that's fucking rockets and shit right there.
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>>3672692
>"That museum docent won a debate with a young earth creationist, clearly his department has too much money if they have time to do such things, let's cut their funding"
Wow.
>On that note, Tsion Ben-Judah has disappeared: supposedly, he's murdered his wife, children and chauffeur/manservant after evening prayers "to ensure that they would go to Heaven" and has been missing since. Authorities suspect a murder-suicide.
Fucking Wow.
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>>3672692

Yeah fair we dont have a mandate rn so we dont need to do shit. Lets take the extra work force amd get more work teams and build some factories
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You've waited a while - specifically, you waited until the last Network Node you were required to install became operational - but it's now time to go see Carpatescu in New Babylon.

The city is still using Baghdad airport, and after the attacks has been subject to a no-fly zone restriction to avoid incidents similar to New York and Washington's, so after your flight there is a brief ride on the ground. The highway between the two cities was hastily built, but is new, so it's comfortable. By the look of it, they are building a monorail line to link the two cities; you can see construction going on its pylons next to the roadbed.

You are provided with limo service, of course, but find that even the temporary buses are a marvel of luxury, each carrying less than two dozen people and providing the equivalent of first class seats on an airliner.

Oddly enough, Carpatescu does not direct you to his regular office in a generally anonymous low tower, but to the top floor of the Burj Carpathia, where he keeps office space that he uses when he wants to impress the rubes.

You brought a parachute, right?

# No.

# No, but you tell the limo driver to make a quick stop at a sporting goods store to get one of those parasails that people use to kite-surf towed behind boats.
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>>3672710
How visible is the parasail? If its not too visiable grab it
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>>3672710


Did we ever buy that Helicopter?
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>>3672725

Not yet.

>>3672724

It's not a full size parachute, so it can fit a briefcase if you stuff it in, but should you be thrown out of the window, you wouldn't have time to put it on and deploy it. If you wear it under your jacket, you'd look like a hunchback, although it might pass a casual glance and, of course, would pass a metal detector inspection since there's very little metal in it.
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>>3672732
Lets put it in the briefcase. Carpastu seems like the type to monologue before throwing someone out a window. We will have time to casually put it on while they are talking.

Would be a funny scene
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>>3672736

You quickly complete the purchase - parasailing is a popular pastime in New Babylon's artificial lake, and it's not unheard of that the very wealthy would want to buy their own gear rather than rent it. You spend the rest of the limo ride stuffing the thing in the briefcase; you discard your laptop's power brick, load your powerpoint presentation on the laptop, hybernate it, and keep it out of the briefcase as if you were making ready to give a presentation at a moment's notice.

The express elevator gets you all the way up to the Burj Carpathia spire, giving you a little bit of vertigo when it accelerates and decelerates. The enormous tower is as busy as its designers intended it to be, as far as you can tell - this elevator is special, normally reserved for tour groups unless Carpataescu is using the office, in which case access is severely restricted. You show your ID to the heavily armed guard downstairs and are waved in.

Outside the office itself, in an incredibly gaudy antechamber that is otherwise devoid of people (and, you notice, of the otherwise omnipresent TV screens) are two men in airline-captain uniforms, looking somewhat chastised and talking to each other in a whisper. In the smaller antechamber past that, the secretary - not Harriet Durham, you note - checks you in. There is an extremely large man outside, with body armor but no visible weapons.

You are asked to wait there for a few minutes as the previous meeting isn't over. You're wearing Nomenklators in both your ears, and they can be used for sound amplification. The operator tells you that she thinks that Carpatescu is currently meeting with Peter Mathews, Pontifex of the Ecumenical Council.

# Listen in - it's a rare chance to listen to a high level conversation you would otherwise miss, despite your monitoring.

# Just wait - you may need the Nomenklator's tiny batteries to last as long as possible, to protect you from hypnosis should Carpatescu give you a very detailed direct order.
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>>3672745
>just wait. I dont want to be told to jump out a wondow and die
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>>3672745

listen, these are people we can't easily track.

>>3672764

why would he do that? we asked for a postpone and he agreed to it, and we got shit done. he's not a melodramatic villain
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>>3672781
I dunni the ides was suggeted amd now im parinoid. But your right would be better to
>>3672745
>listen
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>>3672745
> # Listen in - it's a rare chance to listen to a high level conversation you would otherwise miss, despite your monitoring.

Quite frankly, I don't see him being willing to kill us since we don't actually want to depose him and especially not kill him. We also know that his role is necessary to keep order on earth.

We're probably one of his best bets to beat the odds and survive the prophecy.

Finally we already have the Nomenklator out, and we have evidence of his hypnotic ability so any sudden suspicious death on our part would confirm his abilities, so the Nomenklators would be impossible to remove and everyone would be using them to prevent his control as opposed to just us.

And we can also upload his conversation with the Pontifex if he uses his power on him.

Quite frankly, our voice could reach the people first.

Just send the order to not take any orders from us until they can review the Nomenklator recording, and to release said info if we suddenly die.

If we do die, well, at least we'll have died giving Humanity a voice to rage against the dying of the light. Maybe someone else will be able to step up and carry on our works.

We aren't irreplacable.
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>>3672792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKKJ_DhMO58

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>>3672781


"...People who want to get along and live together will find me most generous and conciliatory. Those who want to cause trouble will be efficiently - painlessly, if it's convenient - gone. It is as simple as that.”

“So, what are you saying, Nicolae? You're going to wage war on the fundamentalists?”

“In a sense I am. No, we will not do it with tanks and bombs. But I believe the time has come to strictly enforce rules for the new Global Community. As this would seem to benefit you as much as it would benefit me, I would like you to cooperate in forming and heading an organization of elite enforcers, if you will, of pure thought.”

“How are you defining 'pure thought'?”

“I foresee a cadre of young, healthy, strong men and women so devoted to the cause of the Global Community that they would be willing to train and build themselves to the point where they will be eager to make sure everyone is in line with our objectives.”

You hear someone rise and begin pacing. You assume it's Mathews, warming to the idea. “These would not be uniformed people, I assume.”

“No. They would blend in with everyone else, but they would be chosen for their insight and trained in psychology. They would keep us informed of subversive elements who oppose our views. Surely you agree that we are long past the time where we can tolerate the extreme negative by-product of free speech run amok.”

“Not only do I agree,” Mathews said quickly, “but I stand ready to assist in any way possible. Can One World Faith help seek out candidates? train them? house them? clothe them?”

“I thought you were running short of funds,” Carpatescu said, chuckling.

“This will only result in more income for us. When we eliminate the opposition, everyone benefits.”

“Well, Pontifex Mathews, you've talked me into it. We would call them the GCMM. The Global Community Morale Monitors.”

Interestingly, you haven't heard Carpatescu use any coerction. The two shake hands, and you see Mathews leave through the antechamber you are in. He gives you a look of pity.

The Nomenklator's operator lowers the amplification and tells you that she's ready to cut in with the noise canceling.
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>>3672802

The Global Potentate's office is huge: there's a perfect replica of his black desk with the embedded touch keyboard and screen in it, but everything else is wider, gaudier, more gilded. There are various awards and honorificences on the wall, including a Nobel Peace Prize and a Congressional Medal of Honor, with a little plaque indicating that Carpatescu is of course not eligible for one, but that was bequeathed to him by a veteran when he passed of old age.

Unlike the "real" office, the one here has the desk and master arranged on a step, so that once both of you sit down Carpatescu towers over you and you feel like a little kid with the desk's smooth flat surface oddly close to your chin.

You haven't been given permission to sit down.

"So, Foreman. I summoned you here weeks ago. I understand that the situation was perilous, but now we'll have to begin our conversation with you telling me what warranted making me wait."

# I have completed your mandate.

# It was objectively the safest option, you shouldn't have your whole cabinet in one place in a crisis.

# I was more useful helping with the reconstruction, and I we can communicate remotely at any time.

# (Write in)
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>>3672804

(Correction: You clearly have been given permission to sit down, my bad)
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>>3672804
Told all of you waiting was a bad idea. Now hes pissed.


>I was actively aiding with the reconstruction at the time and i did not want to jepordise any of our citizens lives die to me stoping the work. As well due to the several terrorist attacks i was very concerned about the cabinet being in one location. It was very dangerous.
>You were correct though I should never go against you on public. It weakens your authority which is not somthing we can afford. I failed in that being distracted by the emergancy and I apologize for that mistake. It wont be made again. However as we are behind closed doors I would reccomend against immediate summons in the future unless absolutly nessesary.
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>>3672818

Carpatescu lets you ramble on a little bit, clearly satisfied that you've been properly intimidated. However, he raises an eyebrow - he's as good at it as Leonard Nimoy, you swear - at the last bit.

"Your recommendation is... noted. At any rate, you're here to learn about a few course changes that I am intending to implement for the Global Community, and suggest to me how best to implement them within your sphere of competence."

"You make an excellent point when you mention my authority - it has come to my attention that some of my trusted lieutenants, the global ambassadors - or subpotentates as they are sometimes referred to - have not been quite as deserving of my trust as I had envsioned. At the very least, they should have been more proactive in nipping insurgency in the bud."

He switches to a monotone, and stares deep in your eyes.

“I want to tell you something, and I want you to listen very carefully and understand fully. This same control that we now have over all media, we also need over industry and commerce. It is not necessary for us to buy or own all of it. That would be too obvious and too easily opposed. Ownership is not the issue. Control is. Within the next few months the subpotentates shall all announce unanimous decisions allowing us to control business, education, health care, and even the way the individual kingdoms choose their leaders. The fact is, democracy and voting will be suspended. They are inefficient and not in the best interests of the people. Because of what we will provide people, they will quickly understand that this is correct. I will publicly reluctantly accede to their wishes, and we will all win."

“We must act swiftly, while the people are most vulnerable and open. They will look to the Global Community for help and aid, and we will give it to them. However, they will give it to us first. We had an enormous storehouse of income before the rebuilding of Babylon. We will need much more to effect our plan of raising the level of Third World countries so that the entire globe is on equal footing."

“You all have been doing a wonderful job of setting the stage for this. We are close to a cashless society, which can only help the Global Community administration. The subpotentates are about to announce, simultaneously, the initiation of a ten-cent tax on all electronic money transfers. When we get to the totally cashless system, you can imagine that every transaction will be electronic. I estimate that this will generate more than one and a half trillion nicks annually."
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“I am also initiating a one-dollar-per-barrel tax on oil at the well, plus a ten-cents-per-gallon tax at the pump on gasoline. My economic advisers tell me this could net us more than half a trillion nicks every year. You knew the time would come for a tax to the Global Community on each area's Gross National Product. That time has come. While the insurrectionists from Egypt, Great Britain, and North America have been devastated militarily, they must also be disciplined with a 50 percent tax on their GNP. The rest will pay 30 percent."

“We are building a new global community. Pain is part of the process. The devastation and death of this war will blossom into a Utopia unlike any the world has ever seen. And you will be in the forefront of it."

“As you know, the second largest pool of oil, second only to the one in Saudi Arabia, was discovered above the Prudhoe Bay in Alaska. During the state of this leadership vacuum in North America, the Global Community will appropriate the vast oil fields in Alaska, including that huge pool. Years ago it was capped off to satisfy environmentalists; however, I have ordered teams of laborers into the region to install a series of sixteen-inch pipelines that would route that oil through Canada and to waterways where it could be barged to international trade centers. We already own the rights to oil in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, Iran, and the rest of the Middle East. That gives us control of two-thirds of the world's oil supply.

“The subpotentates will begin to be referred to as sovereign heads of their own kingdoms. Of course, each will continue to report directly to me. I will approve their budgets, receive their taxes, and give them bloc grants. Some will criticize this as making it appear that all nations and regions are dependent upon the Global Community for their income and thus assuring our control over the destiny of the people. You know better. You know that your loyalty will be rewarded, that the world will be a better place in which to live, and that our destiny is a Utopian society based on peace and brotherhood. One vision, one purpose!"

"Your job is, and remains, to promote the technology of peace. In the last few years, I have commissioned a number of cyber experts, from financial software analysts to even videogame programmers, to create a unified viable system architecture to help me coordinate the global economy. Behold, the Burroughs MCP!"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burroughs_MCP

Carpatescu has gone back to his normal manner of speaking, but has done so gradually; your Nomenklator operator caught the cue when he began his briefing, and noise-cancelled him out, with the result that you head most of the briefing in a synthesized voice reminiscent of Stephen Hawking. You aren't sure at which point he switched from intending to impose his will on you, to just explaining his plan.
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The screens embedded in Carpatescu's desks come on. They show various stock market graphs, trends in shipping and air travel, power plant outputs.. After a few moments you notice that some of the images are actually in a loop.

"Master Control Program, analyze." Carpatescu types quickly as he speaks. "We will gradually but steadily raise the price of oil, which will further finance our plans to inject social services into underprivileged countries and make the world playing field equal for everyone. From oil alone, we should be able to profit at a rate of about one trillion nicks per year."

A booming voice comes from a bank of speakers hidden in the desk or the step that it's mounted on. "There's a 68.71 percent chance you're right."

Carpatescu smiles. "Cute."

The booming voice answers. "End of line."
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"And now, Foreman, I want you to give me your expert opinion on this."

# It's brilliant and futuristic, Potentate. We stand ready to wire it to the world.

# Uh, it's... nice? We have and use a better system back at HQ, and we're about to install one in Chile, too.

# Uh, it's kind of crap, honestly. Those percentages are meaningless, half the screens are just gif images looping, and the hardware specs are ancient. But if it's just for show it's a good idea, it will persuade people on video that you've covered all the bases.

# Do you want something better?
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>>3672890
Do we know if part of the mind control was to get us to like this system?
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>>3672895

The Nomenklator operator didn't want to take chances and left the jamming on for most of the speech, so, no. You'll have to guess by what you heard.

Carpatescu gives you a few seconds to look at the monitors; he taps a bit of desk, and some of them flip their image around so that they are easier for you to read.

Your operator tells you that you've got about forty percent power left in the earbuds, so she'll have to make a choice; scratch your left ear for privileging jamming, and your right ear for privileging amplification, because both may not be available.
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the thing about Dr Robertsons report on variability of nuclear decay scares me a bit now.

https://www.sciencealert.com/new-hubble-data-breaks-our-understanding-of-the-universe

>>3672890
>>3672903
>>3672888
>>3672887
>>3672884

> tron

oooo shit
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>>3672903
>>3672890

Hmmm honestly i would like to wait for a second opinion as i dont feel comfortable making these decisions on my own but i vote for


> Uh, it's kind of crap, honestly. Those percentages are meaningless, half the screens are just gif images looping, and the hardware specs are ancient. But if it's just for show it's a good idea, it will persuade people on video that you've covered all the bases.
> do you want somthing better
>We have and use a better system back at HQ, and we're about to install one in Chile, too

>prefer jamming over amplification
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>>3672945
>prefer jamming over amplification

yes, we already got a nice bit of data, but it's useless if we get brain washed.

>>3672890

I vote for

># It's brilliant and futuristic, Potentate. We stand ready to wire it to the world.

safer option.
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>>3672948
>>3672890
How about
> It's brilliant and futuristic, Potentate. We stand ready to wire it to the world. ..But do you want somthing better?

That way we are more subversive about it.
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>>3672802
>“So, what are you saying, Nicolae? You're going to wage war on the fundamentalists?”
Okay this entire section is worrying. We're going to have to start narrowing our hiring parameters around these "Global Community Morale Monitors" or reveal their existence to the world and hope he can be scared into backtracking...we might also want to look into killing the Pontifex since he seems onboard with these sorts of plans.

>“We must act swiftly, while the people are most vulnerable and open. They will look to the Global Community for help and aid, and we will give it to them. However, they will give it to us first.
Honestly revealing pretty much any of his plan odd to get the world in revolt against him. Assuming he can't prevent us or suppress it.

>While the insurrectionists from Egypt, Great Britain, and North America have been devastated militarily, they must also be disciplined with a 50 percent tax on their GNP. The rest will pay 30 percent."
Sweet ommnisiah. That is an insane amount of money and insanely punitive. The treaty of Versailles wasn't that harsh and it broke the back of the Germans.

>>3672890
# Uh, it's kind of crap, honestly. Those percentages are meaningless, half the screens are just gif images looping, and the hardware specs are ancient. But if it's just for show it's a good idea, it will persuade people on video that you've covered all the bases.
# Do you want something better?

Maybe mention that we would have brought this system to his attention already but budget constraints had prevented us feeling it was entirely ready for use...ideally we can convince him to give us more funding / grant us some additional work team-space before our audit to dedicate to this sort of thing.
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>>3672967
>>3672890
Yes this.

Best to just play it safe.

We should get on infiltrating that new organization ASAP.
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>>3672995
>>3672945
Y'all just want to outright tell him we're immune to his brainwashing?

I like to hedge our bets a little bit, we can still write off not mentioning how crap his system was as being politic.
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>>3673015
He asked for, and I quote "your expert opinion on this", thus I think we should be honest however you have a point about how we should phrase it something like:

1) This is far ahead of what almost anything that world has developed for computers

2) I do know however of a better system, my people developed it for our own uses

3) Would you like my people to take over the continued development of this project?
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>>3673015
Yeah my forst vote there was dumb thats why i switched.
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>>3673037
Yeah i mean my honest opinion is thats its crap
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>>3673037
>>3672890
This is much better.
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>>3673037
>>3673015
>>3673038
>>3673042

You'll have to describe this thing to the people back at HQ so they can have a good laugh about it - it's possibly an evolution of the old Synco system that you've acquired in Chile, but the fact of the matter is, this thing went up the wrong branch of technology.

"It's brilliant, Potentate, and It looks pretty futuristic! CATS stands ready to wire it to the world."

Carpatescu nods. It must be obvious to him that you're about to say something else.

"But as with everything in the computer world, it can be made better. Would you like my people to contribute in developing it?"

"Yes, bu not in the way you expect. Instead, I expect you to send me your best programmer, after he has completed urgent work - in a few weeks, let's say - so that he may assist my crack team of cyber experts in integrating the MCP with the internet. In the meantime, your next job is simple: simply continue to do what you have been doing. The new cashless society will need fast, responsive phone lines to transmit payment requests."

"In addition, given the latest... problems.... with accidental releases of toxic substances, I am going to direct that amniocentesis be made mandatory, first in the affected regions, then everywhere else. Embryos that are found to be defective or unviable will be terminated early and painlessly. Clearly, hospitals and pharmacies will have to be able to communicate effectively with the citizenry."

"So, I want you to double the access to bandwidth that even the lowliest global citizen has access to. To that end, part of the new planned taxes will be redirected towards this effort. I find that your budget is already sufficient for your needs, however, I am going to direct that Cellular-Solar pylon installation be conducted by uniformed GC personnel alongside civilian contractors."

# Gratefully accept. CellSol Pylon installations are now complexity zero (but you still have to buy or make the network equipment).

# Point out that soldiers aren't the best electricians. You will receive an allotment of prefab network parts from approved contractors, but costs will not change.

As for handing over your best programmer, it's clear that

# you have to hand over Aki; someone on the inside might be helpful, if she stays loyal to you.

# he said "he" a few times, so you're going to send your best male programmer. Officially Aki's in jail anyway.


>>3672995

(Yep. Although the idea is that the money flows upwards, and then back down: that's what the block grants are for. Carpatescu wants to centralize the economy, without it being obvious that this is being done. At least that's what I could figure out since the economics in the LB books are about as well thought out as the nuclear physics)
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>>3673084
>hand over aki amd explain to her the situation. We can keep her as a mole on the inside and as we have the internet at our control.

>greatefully accept.

Giest can we bring up the news thing and suggest that as out team did well the gnn could be put under our supervision/control to prevent firther hysteria.
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>>3673107

Now that you've discussed what the boss wanted to discuss, you can bring up your own issues, yes.
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>>3673107
Actually wait not sure if we want to let them install. They can bug it and fuck with it which would be very detrimental to us
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>>3673084

# he said "he" a few times, so you're going to send your best male programmer. Officially Aki's in jail anyway.
She worked on theology she might start blabbing.

>>3673131
Was just going to say this.
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>>3673007
We should monitor all recruited members in the GCMM.

Also monitor any communications from our hq or staff that is sent to New Babylon.

>>3672818
I'm a bit worried about what was said here in the later half. What I would have said was something like "I would never intentionally do something so publicly like that to you sir!"

>>3672890
Can we mention how impressive it is, it beat out our development of this system? Maybe hint that we had hoped to gift a surprise birthday gift of a cashless system.
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>>3673114
Wonderful

I don't think the sanctions on America will be too effective. Elsewhere yes, but as it exist even after the war us on its own, let alone the inclusion of Canada Mexico and the Caribbean, it has enough resources to be self sufficient. You would need to put the majority of GC military assets there in order to effectively enforce the sanction to the desired effect, as in the United States alone, there are more guns than people.

If he listens to reason he may diverge most of the military assets away from the rest of the world, making our job easier elsewhere and America only slightly harder. Confirm anons?
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>>3673114
Mention our displeasure at the incompetence of GNN and how they made the situation worse by giving flawed and confusing help, on top of ignoring qualified nuclear scientists.
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>>3673142
Confirm anons?
Not till after we make that logistics hub....

Also it would suppress our mob buddies....
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Apologises for my late vote, I needed to restart my computer because it was becoming unresponsive.

>>3673084
# Gratefully accept. CellSol Pylon installations are now complexity zero (but you still have to buy or make the network equipment).

# he said "he" a few times, so you're going to send your best male programmer. Officially Aki's in jail anyway.

He gets what he asked for but with a modification, we're giving our inside man a covert nomenklator with a direct link to Aki so she can basically help him on the inside, pretending to be a genius. We will then attempt to anonymously produce, upload and distribute a virus to destroy or damage it's interaction with the greater network that is the internet. Hopefully we can prevent this system coming online...or at least neuter it's effectiveness.

For anyone wondering why I don't want to send Aki, even ignoring how much we need her, I think she'd end up being mind controlled like most people in his pet projects which might screw us over.
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>>3673084
>>3673180
Ill support This
Over this
>>3673107
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>>3673180
I'd be more interested in stealing some of its operations data to incorporate what of it actually works into the Expert system.
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>>3673140

You can.

>>3673143
>>3673107

You definitely can!

>>3673140

That's a lot of people to track; you may have to permanently put personnel on it.
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>>3673142
North America is suppose to be our stronghold, we don't want that much scrutiny on our domestic activities.

Unless we are going to cause turmoil and conflict in Clandestine operations.

>>3673180
We need more hackers help cover them.

Also there are issues such as him getting hypno'd or his battery dying, or even someone steal the ear buddies.

What if he gets isolated from support?
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>>3673190
The first >you can, I'mn not sure which your responding to, perhaps the entire post falls under "you can"?
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>>3673189
That would be good too. I'm mostly in it to disrupt this attempt to gain global control. Also the priority of getting the ability to use his voice-command ability has risen significantly since I suspect the reason he's so certain in all of the Subpotenates doing as he has asked is due to specific instructions to them.

We can't do much most likely but if we can insert counter-instructions and generally neuter that part of his plan even if only in the Americas, it odd to work to great effect.
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>>3673193
>Also there are issues such as him getting hypno'd or his battery dying, or even someone steal the ear buddies.
If he gets hypno'd, the commands shouldn't cause him to reveal anything because the likely scope of them shouldn't demand any information the guy will actually have. As to his battery dying, we're still sending a good programmer just not our best. They'll manage without the battery but having a connection to Aki means they can throw off suspicion if need be.

Stealing the ear buds is unlikely, given their small size means that they are unnoticeable unless already removed and I doubt our new covert agent would be so foolish.

>What if he gets isolated from support?
Oh he will be but that is entirely unavoidable. Far better to lose him than an agent however.
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>>3673195

You can mention that the system is impressive and better than what you were cooking up, I meant. Sorry!

>>3673198

(Maybe that's why his first action upon the insurrection beginning was to collect them in his stealth airliner so they had time to talk in person)
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>>3673212
Speaking of that wouldnt super gloablizing things be against santagos goals? We should try to un mind control her
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>>3673212
>(Maybe that's why his first action upon the insurrection beginning was to collect them in his stealth airliner so they had time to talk in person)
Oh I know it almost certainly was but I don't like talking in certainties about the magic satan man. I suggest what I believe is likely and recommend based off of data what we should do.

>>3673215
If the mind control is anything like last game, it'll be difficult or impossible to break. I doubt that it's on the level of the bible-conversion shit we had to deal with but it could take awhile to prove to her conscious mind enough to accept the fact she's compromised.
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>>3673188
>>3673133

"We'll send you our best man as soon as he's written some documentation, you can expect him here by the end of the month, Potentate."

"Excellent. This is a long term project, you understand, but I believe that in five years or so the Master Control Program will be worthy of its name."

You can decide who to send, and what to send him with, once you're back on your own turf.


(What will you decide on the complexity vs stockpile thing?, and is there anything else you want to bring up? GNN coverage, right?)


>>3673215
>>3673226

You do have evidence that Carpatescu mind-controlled you, although it's not conclusive, it's at least something that you can show someone who either you trust, or you trust to not trust anybody.
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>>3673207
Just in case, we ought to not tell him everything, tell him enough so hes not like a sheep to slaughter but not so much that if hes comp'd he won't ell more than we what he is likely to know or even tell him partly incorrect info so he will leak controlled information that gives controlled conclusions.
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>>3673212
Sure I guess we can mention this. and make sure to hint that we would have given it as a gift on his birthday or something.
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So did we ever send a box of nomklators to the spartan guard that Santiago sent to assist us?
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>>3673282
We should
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We need to mitigate the effects of the sanctions, so we should put a team in UK and Egypt. And two in America, one for general protection, and one to ensure that food and medicine makes it where it needs to go unhindered
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>>3673257
>>3673143

You mention that you felt obligated to intervene when GNN botched the coverage of the attacks. Carpatescu looks at you, then clears his throat.

"Yes, I saw that. Rest assured that the people responsible for that poor show of nerves have been sacked. You've likely saved the lives of some Global Community citizens by your timely intervention. However, please remember that your mandate is distribution of media, not contents. I assure you that you won't have to do that again."

You then mention that you had already started working on an expert system to mediate cashless transaction and other methods of production. To your surprise, Carpatescu has an image of the old Synco control room appear on his desk screen. "Excellent! Your proactive style of leadership is exactly why I've let you manage your affairs with a minimum of supervision, Foreman. Let's speak honestly, man to man, here; I understand that it is in the nature of most administrators to skim a little off the top. That is, in fact, simply human nature; we wish to provide for ourselves and our kin, and in an unfair world, taking a small unfair advantage is simply self-defense. You wouldn't walk down Crime Alley without a sidearm, as Miss Santiago and Mister Dimmsdale recently pointed out to me. Therefore... I'm perfectly willing to overlook small licences that my lieutenants concede themselves, as long as they bring back results, as you have done flawlessly, Foreman. But you needn't prove your loyalty by taking on additional burdens for humanity's cause."

# Proclaim your incorruptibility.

# Admit that you may have been trying to set up factories in Ryan Andrews' name so that you can benefit from a bit of insider trading and self dealing - the end products were good, after all, no?

# Admit that you may have justified the purchase of a particularly large "oceanic tug" courtesy of Andrews and the Italian Navy, and well, you always wanted a big yacht, and it's not as if the boat isn't doing SOME legitimate work when you're not suntanning on it.

>>3673282

You sent her a Nomenklator package for her pretorian guard, but they're not the inner-ear stealthy kind. She's had some helmets built to fit them.

>>3673287

That's sensible, in the long term.
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>>3673296

Why is he fishing for kompromat when he could just have us killed?

>>3673282

Yeah at this point everyone gets the visible ones. We've started selling them anyway.

>>3673252

Let's pick someone who's good at telecommnications but bad at AI so that he can genuinely act impressed. Best if we send some by the book type.
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>>3673296
#confirm or deny nothing. Simply state self interest in the name of making CATs more financially and logistically managable.
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>>3673296

Sorry, fourth option:

# Answer noncommittally. ( >>3673312 this counts)
>>3673296

Note that every subpotentate has some sort of personal guard, you just haven't come into contact with them much. For example, Dimmsdale patterns his after the Texas Rangers of the TV show.
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Are you sure that's what they're patterned after?
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>>3673296
I kinda want to admit to both of these but I don't like our half-assed justifications. Here's my suggestions:

1) We set up those factories in an attempt to make our department perform beyond what our budget would allow us in order to impress him in hopes of promotions (read: extra departments / mandates) down the line and all those sorts of kick-backs a good manager gets. That way we ourselves never touch any profits that are technically illegal / immoral but still benefit from the factories giving us lower prices for "scratching their back" so to speak.

2) We acquired the ship as a mix of mobile launch platform for our rockets (prior to the space program forming) and for transporting shit as needed. Plus a mobile platform for our limited security forces was needed and them being former military, they wanted something big and impressive.

Any rumours that we may or may not use it for our holidays, hosting parties or for production of Waterworld sequels is purely conjecture and should be ignored. Any supposed purchase of multiple jet-skis, docking at abandoned, dry oil rigs and the hiring of a film production crew should be ignored too.
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>>3673296
Hmm maybe bypass it and ask should we continue with this work or abandon it?
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>>3673354
I don't think its wrong to admit to setting up a factory to make network equipment as that is cheaper than always buying it, or spending time consuming man hours making it.
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>>3673380
the cashless transaction thing I mean.
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>>3673386
True but my main point was I didn't like the half-assed justifications. I don't think we have done anything wrong as a individual in charge of our organisation who has been told to get the job done, no constraints given or questions asked but if I must justify myself, I'll do it in a way that is as non-criminal as possible and implies we're a big kiss-ass to him and want more responsibility / power.
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>>3673386
>>3673354
We can claim that setting up a factory would help us make the most of our budget, and let us do achieve our mandate better while being able to advance the telecommunications technology further.
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>>3673406
Well its partly to shield from worse things. But I suppose hes more or less trying to make us sweat a bit, sine I'm fairly certain if he did look into us enough, hes see that most of where the cash went wasn't into our pockets but into CAT's budget.

We should maybe take the position of a true believer in what we are doing and that the ends justify the means. After all his hyno powers have us believer in that anyways.

Either way I'll defer to you in this regard.
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>>3673424
>Well its partly to shield from worse things.
You mean like us buying black market weapons? The planes? The IFV's? The missions in africa where we fought the government indirectly by performing a black-op operation to counter their insurgent allies? The stolen nuclear material?

>We should maybe take the position of a true believer in what we are doing and that the ends justify the means. After all his hyno powers have us believer in that anyways.
True. Plus we've shown ourselves to be quite obsessed with space and optimistic as shit.

>Either way I'll defer to you in this regard.
Oh god no, don't give me the deciding vote. Historically that either ends really well (80%) or terribly (5%). I've got a track record of genius and stupidity like the US economy of 1929 to 1931.
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>>3673443
>>3673424

He wants to record us admitting that we skimmed something off the top, so that we are blackmail-able. If we say that we have stolen nothing we get audited. And it's true that we have stolen nothing four ourselves but we have two criminals working for us and A SECRET NUCLEAR PROGRAM among other things.

Dont forget this guy is from a soviet country.
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>>3673443
>black-op operation
Truly lack of sleep is some sort of fucking super drug against me as of late since I didn't notice that redundant word.
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>>3673450
Yeah true. We could just say "Everything I do, I do to fulfil the CATS goals and mandates as well as to secure the future of a prosperous and free humanity."
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>>3673457

Works for me. Add a wink and a half admission that we may or may not have bought a big boat when a small one would do, because we had navy envy with the subpotentates.
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>>3673443
>You mean like us buying black market weapons? The planes? The IFV's? The missions in africa where we fought the government indirectly by performing a black-op operation to counter their insurgent allies? The stolen nuclear material?
Oh heavens no, he doesn't know anything about that....

Mainly how bad the skimming off the top is, but its mainly coming from Andrews.

We are not driving any fancy cars or stuffing our pockets with cash, or even increasing our own paycheck.

>>3673452
Well I slept at around 3 am when I didn't see any new posts. Not sure if I'm glad I did, since QM starting posting at 6 am, and I woke up at like a hour and a half ago. We all start the day off slightly moronic and caffeine stimulant deprived.

>>3673450
So don't admit anything incriminating....
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>>3673457
Support this.

>>3673466
Not sure about the wink. Why would we give him reason to suspect?
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>>3673466
>because we had navy envy with the subpotentates.
I still think we should claim it has nothing to do with any sub-par knockoff sequels to the film waterworld that happen to come out of South america any time in the next few years. Especially if 2 of the members of the cast happen to look suspiciously like us and the South american Subpotenate in mad-max-esque getup and wearing some makeup and an eyepatch in her case.

Even if such a film's production company would just so happen to make a generous donation to the CATS budget and to the Spartan's training compound. These facts are purely coincidental.
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>>3673466
>>3673493
>because we had navy envy with the subpotentates.
This is factual wrong!

No other Subpotent has a navy!
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>>3673457

"Everything I do, I do to fulfil the CATS goals and mandates as well as to secure the future of a prosperous and free humanity."

Carpatescu smiles, his lips thin. "Yes, yes. Quite. It's odd, you know. Rebohoth has built a terribly tacky palace at the fork of the Nile, Dimmsdale has a limo the size of a parade float and that silly dome of his, even dear Corazon has her toy soldiers and Greek Temple inspired barracks. Pontifex Mathews wears enough gold on his person that he reminds me of a rap singer. You? You carpool to work, the only souvenir I've ever seen you get back from anywhere is some replica sword from England, and the only discretionary money you've been spending is on computer stuff.

Foreman, are you a nerd?"

# Well, yes. That's why you hired me in the first place, right?

# Not really, but I manage nerds. It helps if you speak the language.

>>3673493

(That is hilarious and I'm going to write a plotline just for that)

>>3673476

(Shit man I'm sorry... my own sleep schedule is a bit odd. Is there any way I can announce when the quest will run and wont?)
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>>3673520
# Not really, but I manage nerds. It helps if you speak the language.

Call ourselves a habitual gambler. We like to make investments and see what happens with the money. That would explain where our discretionary money goes.
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>>3673520
>be a actively flustered. Well i mean i guess. I do find the technological marvels we make and the creation of a better world more interesting then a shiny car.
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>>3673520
>Foreman, are you a nerd?"

*Sputters* A- bi! *Ahem* I took computer science in college and have tinkered with IT and my first Apple 1 computer when younger, but I have also played chess and done some cross country trek&field and made it to state in little league baseball.
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>>3673520
Just give us a little post in thread of when proximity we can expect things to pick up to the nearest hour.

>>3673537
>>3673538
He basically called us a virgin.

We'll show him! Start flirting with his female staff and find that Harriot Durham girl!
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>>3673520
>Foreman, are you a nerd?"
"Almost certainly but I'm a bit more dynamic than that implies. I'd also want to point out, just for the record, that the sword was a gift rather than a souvenir. I think the only thing I've gotten from this job thus far that I've technically not payed for is the free combat training in South america."

>(That is hilarious and I'm going to write a plotline just for that)
Thanks OP. I mostly came up with it because you mentioned the film earlier in ones of these threads, I think this one, and I was trying to justify us having this big ship that is more fitting for the big bad of one of those films.

That and I love the idea of us and our PMC (acting as stunt men) being in a film.
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>>3673575
>When dreams becomes memes, memes become reality.

This should be the movie tagline.
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>>3673590
All this concept is doing for me currently anon is making me remember some of the post-apoc civ quests ran around a waterworld-esque situation.

That and a quest based off of Cat-pocalypse which ended after like 3 threads and was god damn fun.
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>>3673555

(Will do!)

>>3673575
>>3673538
>>3673537

Carpatescu laughs, managing to sound entirely sincere - maybe he even is, who knows, this guy has the world's best poker face.

"Jokes aside, Foreman, I'm not happy with being kept waiting, but your excellent performance so far is more than worth the slight bruise to my ego. After all, in a hundred years nobody will care, right?"

You give a brief reports of your activities, mainly centered around the Network Node installation, and get ready leave, after having accepted

# help with physically installing the new pylons (constructing additional pylons is now complexity zero, but you still have to make or buy the network part)

# help with manufacturing the pylons (You will get a number of network parts for free so that you can use them to construct additional pylons at the usual cost)

"Oh, Foreman, one more thing." Carpatescu looks serious again. "I would like to tell you what you are going to do. There will be crises ahead. I want you - I need you - the world needs you - to focus on keeping the Internet running, even in case of revolution, even in the face of Armageddon. That is your task. Focus on it. Pursue no distractions. Indulge in whatever vices you choose, but do your job, do it well, and don't get distracted. Now fly home, and send me your best computer man. End of line."

After that, the little virtual pixie on your shoulder -- that is, the Nomenklator operator -- tells you that the batteries are at twentyfive percent, so you should really wrap this up if you want to be protected from further hypnosis attempts.
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>>3673607

>End of line."

The MCP is actually Satan isnt it.

I second >>3673180 if we make the things we can make sure they don't get subverted. we have better hackers right now but that can change.
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>>3673607
Dunno man, I'm temped to go with the former, but I think the latter gives us more control.
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>>3673607
# help with physically installing the new pylons (constructing additional pylons is now complexity zero, but you still have to make or buy the network part)

>"Oh, Foreman, one more thing." Carpatescu looks serious again. "I would like to tell you what you are going to do. There will be crises ahead. I want you - I need you - the world needs you - to focus on keeping the Internet running, even in case of revolution, even in the face of Armageddon. That is your task. Focus on it. Pursue no distractions. Indulge in whatever vices you choose, but do your job, do it well, and don't get distracted. Now fly home, and send me your best computer man. End of line."
"Don't worry sir, I've got a few plans in the works that should make the construction, maintenance and repair of the network far easier."

If we set up factories and produce network parts, they can effectively be equated to a constant increase the network capability of a region by 1 in either internet or cellular capacity. All without occupying our limited manpower meaning that we can, for the most part, fulfil this demand of his if that was him attempting to impress a mental command on us without any real costs and without technically breaking his demand.

>>3673628
To my understanding we're still in charge of maintaining the network nodes and solar-cellular towers which means that even if they did do something, we'd see it and be able to do something.
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>>3673607
>help with manufacturing.
>>3673628
Having the resources is easier and we can check the. Before deploying while if they deploy we dont know what they are going to do with it.
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>>3673655
>>3673658
Okay so long a we check them for bugs or compromised hardware I'll follow you guys.
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>>3673676
>>3673658
>>3673655
>>3673628

On the way back from New Babylon towards Baghdad, you are notified that a shipment of network parts and solar panels has arrived at your main warehouse.

* New mandate: Cell and network must go up to 2 worldwide.

* New stuff: You have been given 20 network parts and 10 stacks of power generators.

You've got your work cut out for you in the next few months, that's for sure...

Time to pick a programmer to send to Carpatescu: he'll have to be male, and he'll have to be in your top ten percent of coders, but your workforce is pretty disparate in composition, so you can pick and choose what other characteristics he may have.

Given the size and composition of your workforce, you can pick ONE positive trait ( for example, honest, enjoys learning new specialties, etc), and THREE between neutral traits (age, race, culture, married or single, etc) and negative traits ( unhealthy lifestyle, takes credit for other people's work, etc.) The rest will be determined by your current roster.
Your last item for this month's schedule is going to South America, for

# weapons training and a planning session with Santiago.

# starting the Chile factory system - Santiago will just have a few minutes of time to talk to you off the record, during the ribbon-cutting ceremony.


You can bring her a stealth Nomenklator, or not; you do have a few to spare.


(I gotta do the math for next month since there's a lot more options)
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>>3673730

# starting the Chile factory system - Santiago will just have a few minutes of time to talk to you off the record, during the ribbon-cutting ceremony.


You can bring her a stealth Nomenklator, or not; you do have a few to spare.

Make sure she isn't careless with it.

Encourage her to have use to to play back her favorite speeches or something.
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>>3673730
>On the way back from New Babylon towards Baghdad, you are notified that a shipment of network parts and solar panels has arrived at your main warehouse.
I thought the other option won, oh well.

>* New mandate: Cell and network must go up to 2 worldwide.
That is going to cost a lot.

>you can pick ONE positive trait ( for example, honest, enjoys learning new specialities, etc), and THREE between neutral traits (age, race, culture, married or single, etc) and negative traits ( unhealthy lifestyle, takes credit for other people's work, etc.)
I'll leave this to other anons.

># weapons training and a planning session with Santiago.
I presume the factory system will still open if we do this?
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>>3673730

5'9", 31 yrs, American, but with Russia or mainly eastern Europe heritage. Married, but wife was Russian Orthodox and was ruptured. He wasn't a very good christian so he didn't. No kids.

+
Focused on work and doing it exceedingly well since he has no other goals in life such as starting family since his wife is gone.

-
Drinks until he passes out.

+/-
Squats on ledges, chairs and tables, when deep in thought or thinking.
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>>3673767

(I'm asking, it wasn't clear to me what the vote was there. Can I have a revote, just in case? It's not TOO important, but it is a strategy choice so I'd like to see at least two votes)

>>3673767

Yes, the factory system is still open.

The only things that aren't open anymore are, currently:

-recruiting Domai as long as you have Andrews
-buying a different ship
- "thing" that happened when the old timey radio transmitter was turned on full blast for a moment.
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# weapons training and a planning session with Santiago.

we need to see if we can still trust santiago and if she has bin hipnotisd we need to see how far it go's
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>>3673805
Oh, well then if the factory still opens without going, then lets meet Santiago
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>>3673805
>Can I have a revote, just in case?
Sure. I vote for the complexity reduction.

>Yes, the factory system is still open.
I meant "The factory will still open just as quickly as if we did go to the opening ceremony instead".
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>>3673730
>starting the factory

>>3673805
>Get network and power
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I feel I should probably make a point regarding the value of the two options:

># help with physically installing the new pylons (constructing additional pylons is now complexity zero, but you still have to make or buy the network part)
This option has the benefit of making the construction of factories far more useful since now each factory can be dedicated to the production of network parts, freeing up our teams to work on other things like research or recruitment.

Consider that, if we did as I have previously advised, we could construct 12 factories in 5 months with a starting investment of only 13 BN (and all of our work teams for the entire period (assuming heroes don't provide any bonuses)). That is enough raw production capacity that each month we could buy-produce 6 network parts at current costs. This means that we'd be able to raise the internet or cellular level of the entire world roughly every quarter (18/20 regions) without incurring any costs after the initial setup. If we extended the factory production cycle out another month, we would have 15 factories (assuming no limits in terms of supply-demand, government intervention or other such issues) and be able to produce enough network parts per month for a global roll-out of any type every quarter but with a surplus capacity of 5 BN production for whatever purpose we want.

Down this path lies the ability to fulfil any mandate about network capacity by brute-forcing more solar-cellular towers into a region or by making a mixed production for a turn and installing additional network hubs to unify our capacity and refine traffic.

># help with manufacturing the pylons (You will get a number of network parts for free so that you can use them to construct additional pylons at the usual cost)
So long as the number of pylons we construct remains lower than 20, this is genuinely the better option. Given there are 20 regions however, I find this unlikely especially given the possibility of towers being damaged or us being asked to further improve the internet. This is a very short term path and far too limited in my opinion.
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>>3673950
Issue i have with it is we are going to want our teams doong more then making factories in those 5 months. I feel like that is far to aggressive down one emd and we will regret it later
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>>3673950
Howabout like 6 factories that should be more then enough. 18 pyolons a quarter or 1 node and 2 pylons
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>>3673979
>Issue i have with it is we are going to want our teams doing more then making factories in those 5 months. I feel like that is far to aggressive down one end and we will regret it later
Oh almost certainly. I would add an advisory that there are far more "efficient" ways of doing this. They however come at a price tag of 30 BN to do it in 4 months for 12 factories. Given the number you want (6), I suppose it could be done in 2 months for 21 BN.

>>3673984
>How about like 6 factories that should be more then enough. 18 pylons a quarter or 1 node and 2 pylons
Pylon requires network parts, network part costs 2 BN, factory produces 1 BN worth of something. Ergo 6 factories = 9 pylons per quarter or 2 nodes and 6 pylons per quarter. Still a decent amount of production but nowhere near the insane "the future is now, behold the hive-mind" levels of production I wanted.
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>>3674025
Your convincing me with the future is now shit. And it would be good to have our own production.
>>3673730
Fine youve got me. Im switching from
>>3673840
To
>help with phyiscally installing the new pylons.
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>>3674025
This does mean we are making all 15 or whatever factories though lets just get recruitmentuntill we hit max on the side as well. Also research preparedness. But everyone se on factory.

Whats your 30bn plan? Itsnt it a complexity 4 actions to make one? Wouldnt it cost 48 to make 12
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>>3674074
Thank you. Your choice will be rewarded when we send out a virus networking all the world's computers together over our highly advanced and near indestructible network in order to perform the AI-formation calculation's drawn up by Aki at a hyper-accelerated pace, bringing about the god-machine hundreds of years early and disrupting the previous universe's continuum by granting us more time to prepare to fight

Plus we'll make 720p video a thing quicker. Maybe we should make a psuedo-netflix while we're at it? Use it to distribute guides on survival and disasters prep at first, expand it later?
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>>3674085
>Whats your 30bn plan? Itsnt it a complexity 4 actions to make one? Wouldnt it cost 48 to make 12
You are forgetting to account for the production of the 3 factories coming online every turn (since they can produce Nomenklators or other goods for sale) but you are right, I did these calculations on paper and miscarried at one stage but below is a corrected version with the correct cost: 39 cash

0) you have 0 factories, 39 cash, 0 income and build 3 factories for 12 cash.

1) You have 3 factories, 27 cash, 3 income and build 3 factories for 12 cash.

2) You have 6 factories, 18 cash, 6 income and build 3 factories for 12 cash

3) You have 9 factories, 12 cash, 9 income and build 3 factories for 12 cash

4) You have 12 factories, 0 cash, 12 income and do whatever you want as the new king of the internet.
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>>3674128
Ok lets give it a try one thing we can do is underman one and have ryan andrews on it then we have 3 work teams to do somthing else like get more work teams or research
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>>3674162
To be fair, between Aki and Ryan we can probably drop to 3 teams per factory and maintain a good margin of safety on their failure.

On the other hand, leaving them fully staffed and adding the agents means we could get bonuses to our factories and shit that might make this far quicker or far more productive.

It might be a good idea to start deploying the Nomeklators to teams as well just to maximise success chances.
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>>3674179
I believe we still get those bonuses when undermanned too with a agent.just there is that slight chance of failure. We can do 4 factories a turn with 3 teams as well have aki on 2 ryan on 1 and us on 1 then we have 1 free action to fuck about and 2 crews to work with doctor robertson on some research.
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>>3674179
>>3674162

I don't mean to be a poop but it's not guaranteed that you can set up more than one factory system. Although, more automation will certainly make that easier! Starting in Chile is a good plan since people remember the promise of the Synco system very favorably (probably more so than if it had been in use for more than a few months before a military coup).

>>3674092

Adding bandwidth to the internet will make 720p very much possible. The other thing may be a little more difficult :)
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>>3674192
So will you allow us to attempt to make 4 in one turn or no?
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>>3674210

I think literally rewiring ONE country's industrial infrastructure in a month is impressive enough for anyone, no?

Of course, if it works well there, the local politicians will make it very easy for you to do the same in their territories.
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>>3674187
>I believe we still get those bonuses when undermanned too with a agent.just there is that slight chance of failure.
We do to a degree plus a chance to negate failures if we command the agent well enough.

>We can do 4 factories a turn with 3 teams as well have aki on 2 ryan on 1 and us on 1 then we have 1 free action to fuck about and 2 crews to work with doctor robertson on some research.
I think our current team count stands at 13 as of this turn's competition but I could be wrong. That would still leave us a bit short for what you are advising here.

>>3674192
>I don't mean to be a poop but it's not guaranteed that you can set up more than one factory system.
Oh I get that but even if you limit us to only 1 per region, we can still build 5 between north and south america. I've no doubt that we'll manage. Now join me in enjoying machinery at work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukui6ZN6jMo

>Starting in Chile is a good plan since people remember the promise of the Synco system very favorably (probably more so than if it had been in use for more than a few months before a military coup).
A shame we don't have SEA-union man to really cash in on the socialist crowd.

>Adding bandwidth to the internet will make 720p very much possible. The other thing may be a little more difficult :)
I have the power of the omnissiah and memes on my side.
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>>3674226
We will have 14 work crews as of next turn we sent 3 crews on recruiting.
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>>3674250
Recruiting is a complexity 3 action and the last count of teams I can find was 12. Therefore by assigning 3 teams to that action we can only get 1 team (at 100% success rate).
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So are you taking the option to go with the 0 complexity, rather than the big box of parts?
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>>3674255
yes.
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>>3674254
Right my math it off then
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>>3674255
Yes
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>>3674279
It's fine, my math was off for the factories, yours for the teams. The main point is we discuss these things and catch our mistakes.
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>>3674255
It's much less secure, but maybe qe can swing a maintenance subcontract to go to our allies who can provide skilled labour to aid the GC, and maybe even get paid for training their new engineers directly to let us make sure there isn't anything sketchy with the parts - or to put in our own overrides.
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>>3674226
>machine fails to crack egg at 1:33
You can even see the yolk doesn't come out until the next egg comes along.

Also most of that stuff is more advanced that what is currently available to us now.

>>3674254
Unless we score high enough, and maybe if we had a hero leading the action, we might get a bonus such as being able to recruit an extra team.
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>>3674334
>Unless we score high enough, and maybe if we had a hero leading the action, we might get a bonus such as being able to recruit an extra team.
We could assign ourselves, Moira, Dr Robertson (hopefully stacking all their small bonuses) and the month's Nomenklator allocation for a team all to recruiting. Or we throw them onto the factories in an attempt to really ensure the best results.

Problem is deploying an agent costs 1 Bn plus incidental costs. Meaning that these sorts of deployments cost a fair old penny. To me though that is just all the more reason we need to get factories up and running to enhance our income.
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Your visit to South America is fairly brief; you bring along a few of your covert ops people, selecting them from the ones who have been underperforming in tactical engagements, and get on a plane to Rio. At least you won't have to deal with time zones!

Subpotentate Santiago welcomes you in a manner that, for her spartan standards, is downright decadent: she sends a limo instead of a Humvee, her HQ is sporting things like sparkling water and wine in the guest's quarters, and you get the impression she's put on a tiny bit of weight - in all the right places, you note.

She greets you enthusiastically and says that she's looking forward to working with the evolution of the Synco system, then tells you the political history of it. "Much like Carpatescu, Allende was a forward-thinking leader... so forward-thinking that he forgot to watch his back. I'm glad that me and Dimmsdale were able to talk some sense into Nicolae."

She explains how her and her fellow subpotentates talked a reluctant Carpatescu into centralizing the power structure at least a little.

"Also, I'm frankly glad we're done with elections and so on for now. This continent is familiar with dictatorships - mostly imposed by you feeeelthy yanquis" she winks "in truth, some had their uses. Besides, in a few years my people will be able to shrug any dictator off the minute they stop liking him. Or her, I'm counting myself into that."

She also notes that she's formally going to return to using her title of Colonel in formal addresses, "just to watch the Peacekeepers squirm in embarassment when they send me a General!"

# She seems to be happy with the current situation. Onto the training.

# Yeah, about the part where YOU think you had the idea, I got some news...
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>>3674434
# Yeah, about the part where YOU think you had the idea, I got some news...

Maybe not a great idea to just jump straight into it but still, we came here to discuss this with her, we will discuss this with her.
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>>3674426
If we had logistics hubs They would cost so much.

# Yeah, about the part where YOU think you had the idea, I got some news...

So she has changed?
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>>3674434
> # Yeah, about the part where YOU think you had the idea, I got some news...

Emphasize that we don't want to move against Carpatescu. It's just that, much like his personal security, he sometimes isn't willing to see the all the dangers and that blindly following him could, well, blind us to the dangers as well.

He can't do everything on his own, as much as he believes he can, and in some ways he can be his own worst security risk.

She's the only subpotentate we trust to both do what's necessary, and also what's best for the people even if that means sometimes moving in the dark. We must be strict with the masses, but even MORE strict among ourselves.

If she really thinks it best to turn us in to Carpatescu so be it, but even if what he wants are just yes men and women, that's not what's best for him. Or the people.
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>>3674444
>If we had logistics hubs They would cost so much.
?

>So she has changed?
Almost certainly. Her focus is just off and the fact she's grown soft in any sense of the word is worrying.
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>>3674434
Also our character needs to wear sunglasses, we're cool like that.
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>>3674441
>>3674444
>>3674446

Santiago nods gravely when you say that. "You know, that's been my point since the beginning. A lot of people think that I believe in militarism just for its own sake. Some think I'm paranoid. In truth, I agree with Plato in The Republic; the ruling class must subject itself to greater discipline than that of the ones that answer to them. Only then can we truly have a government for the people. The survivalist stuff - well, I'm not under any illusion that I am perfect: if I, or even Carpatescu, should fail in our grand ideals, knowing how to shoot and live off the land guarantees that our grandchildren will be able to try again."

"So you're willing to keep secrets from the boss?"

"Secrets? Hardly. Things he doesn't need to know? Certainly. Everyone does that, and it's as it should be. How would you feel if your platoon sargeant ratted on your shemale porn habit to the El-tee? Would you trust him under fire? Woudl he trust you? No, within limits, camaraderie is more important than transparency, in a hierarchy. I may be a Colonel, Foreman, but I came up from the ranks. There are things that the brass doesn't need to know."

"On your honor."

"Is it a matter of life and death?"

"Hopefully not. Merely of technology."

"Then yes, you have my word. A sword is only as good as the arm that holds it."

# Tell her that Carpatescu has hypnotized her, and offer proof.

# Offer her a set of stealth Nomenklators - if she finds out herself that Carpatescu is manipulating her, all the better.

# Tell her in advance about the MCP, and your plan to do it one better, starting from her territory.

# Other
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>>3674479
# Tell her that Carpatescu has hypnotized her, and offer proof.

# Offer her a set of stealth Nomenklators - if she finds out herself that Carpatescu is manipulating her, all the better.

# Tell her in advance about the MCP, and your plan to do it one better, starting from her territory.

Part of me kinda wants to do a write-in...
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>>3674484

(Please do?)
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>>3674479
>How would you feel if your platoon sargeant ratted on your shemale porn habit to the El-tee?
Piff WAT?! HAHAHA! *checks out "her" groin*

Well now either that happened at some point or shes into some freaky stuff.

# Offer her a set of stealth Nomenklators - if she finds out herself that Carpatescu is manipulating her, all the better.

Teach her proper use of it.

>>3674484
Go for it. If its good and covers ll the important bases I'll support it.
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>>3674479
# Tell her that Carpatescu has hypnotized her, and offer proof.

# Offer her a set of stealth Nomenklators - if she finds out herself that Carpatescu is manipulating her, all the better.

# Tell her in advance about the MCP, and your plan to do it one better, starting from her territory.

None of these are contradictory. Carpatescu wants the world? We' simply give it to him easier than he thought possible.

Of course, we're looking for her input pn all of this. We don't want to go rogue by accident.
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>>3674458
*wouldn't*
They wouldn't cost so much. I think having a logistics hub/base would reduce cost of deployments next to nothing and I think also reduces complexity.
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>>3674496
>>3674484

I'd argue that "Show Santiago that Carpatescu has hypnotized her" and "Giving her a tool to find that out for herself next time they have a board meeting" are somewhat contradictory.
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We should tell her in this order

# Tell her in advance about the MCP, and your plan to do it one better, starting from her territory.

# Offer her a set of stealth Nomenklators - if she finds out herself that Carpatescu is manipulating her, all the better.
Wouldn't it be great if you can reply some of the awesome speeches you've heard afterwards.

# Tell her that Carpatescu has hypnotized her, and offer proof.
What did he tell say to you on that plane ride, or what you think he said to you.
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>>3674489
Point out that we aren't upset by Carpatescu hypnotizing us. If we thought he was just in it for personal power, like Reheboth, we would have acted very differently. Having such an ability, how could he *not* use it? Indeed look what it achieved in unifying the world.

It's just that, being reliant on such an ability can in it's own way become a crutch. He's just a little bit . . . Lazy? By making us convince ourselves of his genius it means we won't question his actual plans and that we will operate under a false idea of what kind of support we will get, resulting in us wasting resources and maybe even accidentally going down a wrong path.

Once again, one has to wonder what Reheboth heard from his own heart to bind him to Carpatescu. Clearly his ability doesn't protect him from creating loyalty but not truly to him, but to the him that his subpotentates THINK he is.

Carpatescu is too used to habing control, but now that he's running the world it's just . . . Too much. He can't possibly micromanage any more. We NEED to be able to be independent.

And heavens forbid if he does make a major mistake and nobody is able to work around it.
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>>3674509
Show Santiago that Carpatescu is capable of hypnosis so she knows to play along, and give her a Nomenklator so that she can get her own evidence and make her own decision about whether or not to still follow him given that what she thinks she has been promised may not be true.
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>>3674489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSLlZh9yelk

"Alright lets start from the beginning. About a year ago, my people developed the initial version of the Nomenklator system and I went into a meeting with Carpatescu wearing it so I could better answer questions. My audio feed was being broadcast back to HQ so operators could provide me with information at all times which lead to a discovery.

Carpatescu is a hypnotist.

At least that is the best explanation that my scientists, doctors and anyone we could reasonably ask came to. He gave me an order in a level monotone which I obeyed without question but held no memory of after the event until it was mentioned to me as being part of the conversation in the audio log. After this, the Nomenklator project took on a second purpose: attempting to neutralise his ability to influence through words; which we eventually achieved in part and then more recently in full. Each time we made a break through, we managed to test it against him and seemingly reduced the effect.

I tell you this because I worry about Carpatescu and everything he talked to me about in my last meeting with him - I'll release the audio log of it and any other meeting the moment you ask - as he on multiple occasions attempted to use it on me. At least we think he did, the main issue with our method of block his ability is we can't tell too precisely what statements are normal and which are encoded, as inaccurate a word as that is for this.

I think he may be attempting to follow his grand plan, his idealistic vision, by ensuring compliance subversively. I worry that, when you and the other Subpotenates got on that plane with him that he may have conditioned you in some way or added in some degree of his plans to your mind like he tried to do to mine. This place seems notably different from when I was last here and I'd suggest asking your closest advisers or compatriots if you or your actions seem off or different. You get what I mean.

I can't tell what he's got planned or how much of what he's said is false and what is real beyond what he has already put in motion. I don't know how seriously you will take me but I implore you to at least do me the favour of wearing the Stealth model of Nomenklators in future meetings with him. If they do nothing because he lacks this supposed power, then I am mad and I've just gave away a few hundred dollars worth of equipment. If I am right however, you should see what me and my people have, in which case I will need your help.

1 / 2
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Well this is going to be annoying. We also have to make sure she doesn't do anything dangerous for herself as a reaction.

>Goes from decentralized authoritarian to centralized authoritarian.

Ah, why do beautiful things have to be altered?
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>>3674583
He wants to render the world's population dependent on the central government for everything, presumably out of fear for his life after what has happened. I presume this is also why he wants to bring about dictatorships in every "kingdom" as he called them in my meeting with him: he wants to keep his known quantities in place; that or he plans on doing something he thinks will be very unpopular.

He plans to introduce a new thing to the world: the MCP; a massive economic control system designed to centralise and control the world economy; granting him and the central government greater power while greatly weakening the economic freedoms and rights of the people. Not to mention his plan to completely remove non-electronic cash exchange within the next few years which would render your belief in survivalist ideals and living-off-the-land to ensure survival near impossible.

My plan is to make use of my organisation's own system, which we are certain is damn superior, to delay or even prevent this economic action and if all else fails to develop a method of preventing it taking total control. I want to start the program in your region, I trust I can have your support. Believe me when I say that even if you think the MCP isn't at least somewhat horrifying, that my people have developed the superior technical achievement, I want to start here because I've made a pact to help you and you to help me.

I don't have armies, I don't have wealth, I don't have fame or genius or perhaps even a hope in hell of understanding what is going on but I do have honour: I took an oath for this office; I took an oath to you and I took an oath for humanity; I need your help to keep all three.


Anyone got anything they want to change or add before I conk out? Tohou eurobeat is best write-in writing music.


>>3674604
I know the feeling. It's like watching the fall of the Roman republic on fast-forward.
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>>3674583
A bit more "sedation" than I would like. Its too frank for someone like Santiago who whole heartily believes in Carpatescu.

We may want to tone it down or redact some of it.
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>>3674619
Hey man I can cut it down but I didn't want to leave anything out. First drafts should always be a bit long but I honestly do agree, it's not my finest writing.
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>>3674617

(That's good writing! Y'all tell me if you want to go with it!)

>>3674604
>>3674617
> I know the feeling. It's like watching the fall of the Roman republic on fast-forward.

Thanks, that's basically what I was going for. Or Asimov's Foundation, which is just the fall of Rome in space.
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>>3674635
>(That's good writing! Y'all tell me if you want to go with it!)
I mean, if you think it's good, then that is certainly an endorsement.

On a separate but related note: yay; OP approves.
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>>3674617
>>3674583
Can we do . . . Something like this but play up how we want Carpatescu to succeed but know this won't work out right this way, how we also know for a fact that Santiago wanted decentralization in the first place. That she would do a 180 is out of character of her?
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>>3674644

She's expounded her ideology to you: you can definitely point out that she's contradicting herself, if she has advocated centralization. She or Yang don't seem the sort of people who would get angry at this - they honestly practice mental discipline.
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>>3674644
I could certainly attempt a re-write or a alternate draft with that basic principle if you want?
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I mean, I feel like the write in was a tad to critical of Carpatescu for someone who's supposed to be on his side. We should be going more the angle of "this isn't how he's going to win, we both know it" instead of a "we have to stop or prevent this" angle. I mean the write in as in I feel like is more likely to see Santiago snap and turn on us for going against the potenant.
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>>3674617
I would like to work in more that we still support Carpatescu, but that he's not perfect and that we're going to have to retain independent flexibility to work with him, not just for him.

I basically support this, but well you saw my write in earlier.

The important thing is to stress not directly opposing Carpetescu, both to avoid triggering any loyalty programming he may have left in Santiago but also to keep Santiago from going full rebel.

Carpatescu is a necessary evil at this point, starting a war or assassinating him will only advance armageddon. The best position to be in will be on his side but powerful enough that we can keep him from doing stupid shit and getting killed or losing the war.

Fukkin cavalry charges.

Remember, we can't directly oppose Gods prophecy. Only subvert it. Literal divine intervention.
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>>3674583
>Carpatescu is a hypnotist.
Maybe change to "Carpatescu can influence peoples minds and change peoples perceptions of him and others."

After this, the Nomenklator project took on a second purpose: attempting to neutralise his ability to influence through words; which we eventually achieved in part and then more recently in full. Each time we made a break through, we managed to test it against him and seemingly reduced the effect.
TMI
Need to also worry about OPSEC, for all we know she could be bugged or relying info to him later. We should be prepared to mitigate some of that damage.

>After this, I used a modified Nomenklator to ascertain the extent of this ability he has and how to mitigate it. We managed to test it while not wholly immune we seemingly reduced the effect.
Enough info to get the point across without comprising ourselves too much, if this was somehow leaked, then Carpatescu would know just how much we know and to what extent and length we went to subvert it.

>>3674631
Don't get me wrong I rate it 9/10 for just effort and details alone. But yeah we cut that down a bit.

>>3674644
Good, don't let anything think we are totally against him, we just think there is a better alternative path.

>>3674662
Yes hold on, let me make my "editors notes".
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>>3674663
Fair enough man, it's kinda hard to argue neutrally like that regarding mind control and an attempt to take over the world market while forcing all economic traffic into the electronic sphere.
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>>3674644
>>3674663
>>3674619
>>3674662
Seems like we're all on the same page regarding the rewrite.
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>>3674669

(There's an inherent risk in handing over a stealth Nomenklator to someone - it's hard to detect, but not impossible. For example, the bad guys could video bug someone's room, and see them take the earphones off to recharge them. The battery is tiny and only lasts a couple of hours - that's of course not a problem for the non-stealth version)
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>>3674671
Well the other choice is global instability, mass death and war, and Armageddon so I mean.

Pick your poison.

We don't have the capability to remove Carpatescu without triggering those things right now. If we don't play along, he'll just remove us.

Also we should play up what we CAN control. We have an experienced workforce, control of communications, and money and tech.

Let's not sound like we have nothing but ideals, Santiago has seen far too many of those kinds of leaders fail and bring ruin.

We have the ability to do better, and therefore we also have the obligation to do better. See >>3674479

>I agree with Plato in The Republic; the ruling class must subject itself to greater discipline than that of the ones that answer to them. Only then can we truly have a government for the people.

She allied with us because we brought stuff to the table. It would be insulting to pretend we have nothing. She's a Militant Benevolent Dictator, not an American Californian Commie.
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Well good news I've already managed to snip 100 words without losing any actual information of importance in my opinion.
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>>3674683
If anyone would be able to handle the responsibility of using such a device, Santiago meets the requirements.

Also, given her whole ideals and Praetorian guard we should also clue her in about the One World Faith.

Also regarding when he is using his power, "suddenly he speaks in a monotone" is a pretty clearcut clue.
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>>3674683
Is it fair to ask that you work my write in notes >>3674516
into it even if pinky doesn't? I feel that using the incompetence of other subpotentates at the least would be worth bringing up that Carpatescu's control isn't as useful as he might believe.
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>>3674669
>Enough info to get the point across without comprising ourselves too much, if this was somehow leaked, then Carpatescu would know just how much we know and to what extent and length we went to subvert it.
I'd be interested in seeing what you'd cut.

>>3674691
>Pick your poison.
Yeah I know but that doesn't mean we have to keep him as supreme dictator.

>She allied with us because we brought stuff to the table. It would be insulting to pretend we have nothing. She's a Militant Benevolent Dictator, not an American Californian Commie.
The line is meant to be read a bit like Winston Churchill's "I have nothing to give this country but blood, sweat and tears". Basically say that, compared to what she has, we have fuck all money, forces or intelligence but we have promised to do good and we'll do good to the grave.

Also it occurs to me that during that whole write-in I failed to talk about the new Gestapo he's forming, something she'd most certainly be against given how familiar south america is with presidential and political party death squads and how one of the initial points she made when we talked to her about satellites is how she didn't want any surveillance in south america. She wants her people to live free and not intruded-into.
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>>3674752
>>3674705

(Your call on whether to bring up what you learned from listening in on Mathews; you may be able to tap THEM, of course.)

Santiago did say that, should she become the sort of dictator that South America has had in many forms for 150 years, she expects that by then her people will be independent-minded enough, and proficient enough at combat, that they'll get rid of her.
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>>3674752
I think I may have messed up the editing and made several redundancies.
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>>3674824
Anon, I've added one or two things in and ended up with it longer than I started. So long as you make your alterations clear and concise, I'll try to make it all fit.
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>>3674752
> Yeah I know but that doesn't mean we have to keep him as supreme dictator.

Not exactly like we have other options at this point though.

Best we can manage, I figure, is some sorta Magna Carta in 2-3 years when tensions reach a breaking point and we can force negotiations on him when we surprise him by having immunized key power bloc representatives to his hypnotic powers.
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>>3674880
True.


Also if people could hurry with any revisions, I've got to be up in a few hours.
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>>3674857
I consulted my best eggheads on this and the explainations are baffling, but the conclusions and evidence speak for themselves. Carpatescu gave me a orders in a strange montone voice, which I obeyed without question or hesitation, but held no memory of afterwards, until it was mentioned to me as being part of the conversation in the audio log by my support staff. After this I started utilizing a modified Nomenklator to mitigate these effects by blocking his voice, with some degree of sucess.

I can show you all of my recordings from my previous meetings of him using his powers on me if you'd like. One of the issues I've had in mitigating his powers is I can't tell precisely what words are normal and which are "hypnotic" or "mind altering".

I'm telling you this because I'm concerned about what he told me in my last meeting with him.

I fear his grand plan will end up using whatever means to justify his idealistic vision by subersively and forcefully ensuring compliance. I fear that when you and the other Subpotenates got on that plane with him, that he may have changed or altered you and the other leaders in some way ensure his plans become imbedded to your mind like he has tried to do to mine. Look around you, this place seems uncharacteristic of you. Its different from when I was last here. I'd suggest asking your closest advisers or compatriots about any recent or sudden changes they've witnesses from then until now.

Suddenly and directly telling people something they may not like or don't want to hear, tends to make a person either outright reject it or very rarely, admit what they know but were in denial about. Shes smart enough to come to her own conclusions and figure it out, its best to let her.

I don't know everything he's got planned or how much of what he's made us to think hes said is already put in motion, but I do know that if it is as I fear, it is likely the wrong path, much like the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

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>>3674857
What I do know is that, he wants to make the world's population more dependent on the central government for everything, perhaps this is a reaction to being nuked and he is presumably in fear for his life. I presume this is also why he wants to bring about more centralized rule in every region as he wants to keep his known quantities in place; that or he plans on doing something he thinks will be very unpopular.
No need to call it kinddoms or dictatorships, once she listens to the recordings she will hear that for herself and know that she has becomne what she has always hated and fought against.

He also plans to introduce a new world economic system to the world: the MCP; a massive economic control system designed to centralise and control the world economy; granting him and hiscentral government substantial control and power while consequently weakening the economic freedoms of everyone else. Not to mention his plan to completely remove non-electronic cash exchange within the next few years which would make independat minded people living-off-the-land very hardpressed to survive.

>My plan is to make use of my organisation's own system, which we are certain is damn superior, to delay or even prevent this economic action and if all else fails to develop a method of preventing it taking total control. I want to start the program in your region, I trust I can have your support. Believe me when I say that even if you think the MCP isn't at least somewhat horrifying, that my people have developed the superior technical achievement, I want to start here because I've made a pact to help you and you to help me.
Redact this entire section. If she asks us what can be done about MCP we may reveil this to her but to even let this leak would definate make our boss try to kill us.

I know how you must think I am absurd for saying these things, but I implore you to at least do me the favour of finding out the truth for yourself. I take am taking such unprecendent risk doing this, and I truely do hope I am wrong. But If I am right however, you should see what me and my people have, in which case I will need your help.

-I feel that it should be ended with us asking for her help

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>>3674990
>>3674996

Santiago listens attentively. "Interesting. I would have to see some evidence. And... I would like to tell you a story about loyalty."

It's probably your turn to listen, in fairness.


"I'm sure that you can tell my predilection for Ancient Greece. In truth, I'm less interested in what the Greeks really were - the Spartans were little more than brigands for most of their history - and more in what they thought they could be at their best. Surely you are familiar with the Odyssey? When Ulysses crossed the island of the Sirens, he made his sailors fill their ears with wax so that they would not be enchanted, but chose to not use his own clever trick. Instead, he had them tie him to the ship's mast, so he could hear the Sirens' song. And - he made them swear to disregard his orders to untie him, for he would not be in his right mind. I have the story taught in a way that emphasizes Ulysses testing his force of will, and his subordinates' loyalty. Any of them could have taken command by obeying his orders to untie him, but none did. That, disobeying a direct order, was true loyalty. Would you say that this situation parallels ours?"
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>>3674990
> Carpatescu gave me a orders in a strange montone voice,

Actually the monotone is from the Nom cleaning it up. He jad a range kf bizzare tones unfilteres.

Fuck I'm too drunk.
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>>3674669
>>3674990
The first part I revised that should be on top is here. I did not think I needed to reattach it but perhaps I should have in hindsight.

I think mentioning the MCP thing may end up pushing her the other way since it would more likely look like a soft financial coup or a power grab. She will call it like she sees it, and it doesn't look good even if we have the best of intentions.

The part where it puts this at the end I felt was a little much.
>I don't have armies, I don't have wealth, I don't have fame or genius or perhaps even a hope in hell of understanding what is going on but I do have honour: I took an oath for this office; I took an oath to you and I took an oath for humanity; I need your help to keep all three.
It feels like it tries to play to her believes and and higher meaning than one self, but it just doesn't feel natural like a scene in Repomen where they are trying to get people to sign financially ruining contracts for mechanical kidneys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSca1EnBNJA
Not the exact scene I was looking for, but the point I'm trying to get across is it may look sociopath manipulation and she may see through it.
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>>3675075

No, the monotone was his. The first attempt at cleaning up added a lot of noise. The subsequent attempts simply canceled out what Nicolae was saying, and the operator listened to it (safely through a filter) and just typed it back to you using a voice synth, just to be extra safe.
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>>3675040
The question is, are we loyal to Carpatescu, or to his proposed ideals?

I lean towards the latter. Leadership comes from abilitt, and in a sense Carpatescu has shown that. But while I may be willing to follow him into hell, I won't let things go to hell just to indulge him.

I don't want his job, not while he can do it better. But . . . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Who watches the watchmen? If you can watch me, and I can watch you, we can both watch Carpatescu and make sure he lives up to the legend.

If that means taking a . . . Liberal interpretation of his orders, then so be it. If that means censure, or outright sacrifice of my position. Well. I know yout values, your beliefs on loyalty. I trust you to watch me and to call me out if I start to take it personally. I just want you to do that for Carpatescu as well to the best of your ability.

In short, the answer to your question is yes. No quibbling, no evasive political statements between us as allies.

If yoy disagree, then convince me.
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>>3675040
In some ways yes, the parables comparable in some ways. I am loyal to a good if not great leader, and I wish to see him bring about a new age for humanity, one definitely for the better.

I do not seek his job or a position beyond my ability, and I certainly do not seek jobs that have regular attempts on my life with nuclear weapons.

>>3675104
>Who watches the watchmen? If you can watch me, and I can watch you, we can both watch Carpatescu and make sure he lives up to the legend.
I like this.
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>>3675104

"Oh no Foreman, you're the one that has to convince me. I like to think that I'd know if someone was messing with my head. Then again - I would like to think that, but by definition, I wouldn't know, would I? If you have evidence, let's see it, or hear it."

# Give proof in the form or recordings. She'd recognize the conversation that she thinks she had, and the recording does show Carpatescu changing between tones.

# Hand over a set of Nomenklators: she can find out herself at the next board meeting.

# Both.

# Neither.


You haven't mentioned the MCP yet; it may be prudent to do so, or it may not, with this particular subpotentate.
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Should we mention that Carpatescu knows about her spartan palace?

If we do then tell her we did not have anything to do with it and the satellites cannot take photos of this region as the were launched without cameras.

Also maybe mention he knows about the "vices" of the other leaders too so its not just her.

He knows, or we think he knows about our little African Addio adventure.
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>>3675138
Well we haven't even started it yet so no.

When it gets under way or when we have a finished project then we can mention we have a counter.

Unless you mean We didn't mention any of the MCP stuff at all. Then yes, tell her about it.

# Both.
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>>3675138
# Both.

"This place seems notably different from when I was last here and I'd suggest asking your closest advisers or compatriots if you or your actions seem off or different."

>You haven't mentioned the MCP yet; it may be prudent to do so, or it may not, with this particular subpotentate.
I'd prefer to mention the huge punitive taxes that are about to come down on every region with the goal of making people more dependent on central government handouts.

That and the newly formed secret police who would most likely target her people seeing as he's worried about subversive elements: can't get much more subversive than gun-owning and freehold-living survivalists. Especially given that this sort of thing just reciprocates further resistance by making families angry over missing loved ones or making villages fear missing families.

In regards to the MCP, there's a decent chance she'd actually like it. Given her general appreciation of socialism as a way to enforce structure and discipline on society. Counterpoint to that: it encourages centralisation, city living, urbanism and basically a load of other things she's against because they run counter to her goal of a resilient and land-living population. Not to mention the entirely electronic cash system will make things interesting since it renders off-the-land-living a fair bit harder.
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>>3675138
# Both.
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>>3675138
If we do developed our own e-money system, it may be best if we made it like bitcoin in the sense that its for everyone, not for us to have a monopoly on, and not take credit for it. We become "Satoshi Nakamoto".

It will form a Parallel Shadow Economy.
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>>3675185
Best counter to that is to not get rid of physical money.
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>>3675193
Agreed. Especially if we make it more or less impossible to track.

>>3675198
If the central government pushes for a cashless society, it is unlikely we will be able to stop it. At best we do as >>3675193 advises.
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>>3675185
>>3675179

Santiago motions for her guards to leave; it's not as if you'd last two minutes against her. That done, she sits in front of you on a small table - it has a chessboard etched into it, you note. She listens carefully to the recording.

"I do remember us suggesting to him that... Hmm. I'm sorry, Foreman, but to me it simply sounds like Carpatescu is taking credit for my suggestion. Granted, that's not particularly gentlemanly, we're all on the same side here, but it's the prerogative of a leader."

# Point out that she wouldn't recommend getting rid of elections.

# Point out that she wouldn't recommend punitive taxes as a way of centralizing the economy.

# Point out that she wouldn't recommend a cashless system.

# Ask her to ask her own men if she's been acting funny since she got back - if her point about loyalty versus lackeyism has come across to them, they will be truthful.
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>>3675217
# Ask her to ask her own men if she's been acting funny since she got back - if her point about loyalty versus lackeyism has come across to them, they will be truthful.

I'll be honest, I went back 2 or 3 threads trying to find shit but we've actually done surprisingly little discussion over her politics in any great detail from what I've seen. If people want to look further back they can but our best bet is the people that know her for literally years at this point.

Failing that:

# Point out that she wouldn't recommend punitive taxes as a way of centralizing the economy.

Since it doesn't build people up which is something she's all about, it just shifts power into the hands of the few and away from the people. Which is no better than what is going on in Africa since Carpatescu will not accept no for an answer and that means that the guns of the peacekeepers would turn on the people just as the thugs in Africa have turned on farmers that failed to sell their farms.
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>>3675214
Well stuff like maybe Gold or Silver, Platinum, etc. and make them tradeable.

You could even break it down to barter economies.
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>>3675217
# Point out that she wouldn't recommend punitive taxes as a way of centralizing the economy.

# Ask her to ask her own men if she's been acting funny since she got back - if her point about loyalty versus lackeyism has come across to them, they will be truthful.
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>>3675263
>Well stuff like maybe Gold or Silver, Platinum, etc. and make them tradeable.
Yeah but then you run into the issue of bullion limitations, ease of transport and it being pretty conspicuous.

>You could even break it down to barter economies.
That would be the logical endpoint if you don't adopt it. Aye.
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>>3675272
Those are the same limitations we face today anyways, just with paper money. But the former retains value better and can be traded easier internationally compared to paper notes.

A new medium or a complementary one for exchange can be made.
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>>3675295
Main point is we don't want Carpatescu to start controlling the world economy on that level.
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>>3675270
>>3675245

"Colonel, no offense, but you suggesting this sort of taxation-and-grant scheme seems very out of character to me."

"The issue is, such a system would further my own goal because... huh."

Santiago gets her walkie-talkie. "Ramirez, have I been acting odd since getting back from the sand box?"

"Uh, no ma'am! I mean, we were all very grateful for the care package, but I wouldn't call that-"

"Ramirez? Skip it."

"Er, yes ma'am. I mean, cutting down on the PT after the attack reports was a bit odd. We figured you'd increase the guard, not relax it."

"Thank you. Santiago out. Pues, Foreman, you may have a point. It's just... It's hard to think about, you know? Having your own head messed with. I think I ought to believe you, at least pro tem - your story checks out. I've got to figure out some things."

# Offer a stealth Nomenklator. She'll have to get an operator for it, but then she'll be protected from further interference. The chance of your secret weapon being revealed is increased slightly.

# Offer a stealth Nomenklator to her and a few guards she trusts. She can choose to cover her ears, or listen to the siren's song with cognition of cause. Your men will have to do without until they make more, though - it'll take a month, with the existing workload. The chance of your secret weapon being revealed is increased.

# Suggest that she record her interactions with Carpatescu from now on, and leave it at that.

>>3675305

(That's what the whole mark-of-the-beast paranoia in evangelical circles is)
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>>3675270
I guess it's time to show her our evidence. Provided we can disprove any argument that "maybe we are just full of shit."

Make sure to tell her when we give her the stealth nomenklature "never go against or disagree with Carpatescu. Here's your wax."
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>>3675305
I agree, that's why if our thing doesn't get built up we may make a underground economy for the other discontent people. There is the slight hitch that we may have mentioned we would do that for our boss....

>>3675312
# Offer a stealth Nomenklator to her and a few guards she trusts. She can choose to cover her ears, or listen to the siren's song with cognition of cause. Your men will have to do without until they make more, though - it'll take a month, with the existing workload. The chance of your secret weapon being revealed is increased.
Make sure she knows how to use it, and try not to tell anyone we gave her this...

# Suggest that she record her interactions with Carpatescu from now on
We can send her some technical help.
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>>3675312
# Offer a stealth Nomenklator. She'll have to get an operator for it, but then she'll be protected from further interference. The chance of your secret weapon being revealed is increased slightly.

"Her's your wax" make sure she understands that she is only to remove it and put it in somewhere without cameras and without people to reduce the chance of getting caught with it.
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>>3675314
"never go against or disagree with Carpatescu. Here's your wax."
Kek.

Yes make sure she knows how to act. Otherwise SHTF really fast for everyone.
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>>3675312
# Offer a stealth Nomenklator. She'll have to get an operator for it, but then she'll be protected from further interference. The chance of your secret weapon being revealed is increased slightly.

"The one benefit of my department is that so long as I fulfil my mandates and don't rock the boat? I get left alone and can put funding anywhere as you well know. This will protect you from his abilities and functions like a regular Nomenklator unit. Please understand the risk I am taking by not only telling you this but also giving you this.

Always be careful, I can get away with disobedience because he doesn't see me as much of a threat. His instructions to you will be much more precise, be on your guard and never drop your act around him."

>(That's what the whole mark-of-the-beast paranoia in evangelical circles is)
True but I mean more so in the sense it would make a lot of our business a lot harder.

>>3675320
>I agree, that's why if our thing doesn't get built up we may make a underground economy for the other discontent people. There is the slight hitch that we may have mentioned we would do that for our boss....
We already released the superior software for use on phones as a IOS / applet. It isn't our fault that every business chooses to adopt the superior product or that we've basically designed everything to work with it...we never knew another system was being developed.
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>>3675332
>"The one benefit of my department is that so long as I fulfil my mandates and don't rock the boat? I get left alone and can put funding anywhere as you well know.
Do we really need to tell her this?
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>>3675321
>>3675314
>>3675326
>>3675332


"Hah. So that's how you seem to know all the little details. I wonder if Nicolae has a similar system, since it's pretty much you and him doing that."

You tell her that to the best of your knowledge, he doesn't, he actually has an eidetic memory.

"That's the sort of thing I always thought it'd be possible to train, but - we've tried it in every sauce, and if it's possible, my neurologists haven't worked it out yet."

Santiago may not have an eidetic memory, but she's a quick study; you show her how to take the earpieces off and how to charge them, give her the accompanying operator software on a CD-R (it used to fit on a floppy until the operators demanded a graphical interface... kids these days, right?) and warn her to not contradict Carpatescu or the gig is up.

"I understand the risk you're taking. And I appreciate it. Now, tell me this: why would't I pack you up in a bag bound for New Babylon right now?"

# You gave your word.

# You need me as much as I need you.

# Unlike anyone else's, my nuclear program actually works.

>>3675332

( It looks more like a S40/S60 applet than an iphone app, but basically. Pictured: A nice smartphone, circa this month)
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>>3675341
>Do we really need to tell her this?
Not really but I always try to add some detail to what I write because human sentence structure is never as efficient or logical as it should be. Plus a wee friendly thing like that makes all the difference after all this heavy shit.
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>>3675346

(these dice)
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>>3675352
Was that us or the other board pieces. I swear this is the reason people say digital rpg platforms suck.
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>>3675346
# You gave your word.
>That and we both want our boss to succeed, and unlike some of his apparently lackies he surrounds himself with know how to do it.
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>>3675346
>because i think we have the same goals to make a better world. I trust you.
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>>3675346
> Rolled 1 (1d100)

...

nooope nope nope nope SO MUCH NOPE.

>>3675374

Were you around for the other quest?

>>3675346

I'd like to go with >>3675389 but are we trying to romance this person or something?

Does left beyond quest need waifus?
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>>3675346
Just end it.
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>>3675402
I was! FUCK THESE DIGITAL DICE.

Rolling 1 or 100 this often SHOULDNT BE FUCKING POSSIBLE!
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>>3675346
"Because, as I said to Carpatescu in our last meeting, my loyalty is to ensuring a prosperous and free future for humanity. I hope you can look at my actions, both within my mandate and outside it, and agree that I have done little to nothing to suggest any part of this isn't true within reason. I ain't a saint but I am trying to do good.

I hate what is going on in Africa, Carpatescu has done good but he could do so much damage at any moment with his power and to top it all off we've got terrorists and fundamentalists to worry about. If you kill me, at least keep the Nomenklator system secret, it's the only viable defence against his control and I don't want to imagine a world where no defence exists against him going mad with power or something.

I want to believe that a far better future is possible. I want to believe you'll trust me. I want to believe that we, together will win out over any odds."

>Pictured: A nice smartphone, circa this month)
To be fair, besides the screen's lack of pixels / colour, I'd still buy that.

>>3675352
>(these dice)
Please tell me it wasn't for anything important?
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>>3675402
Im not against romancing her. But im not sure if we have time for wifus
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>>3675346
> Carpatescu already knows about your little palace. I didn't have anything to do with this or tell him or anything, the satellites I sent up don't have activated cameras, and they have relatively low resolution.

Make of this what you will.
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>>3675417
Lets try for shorter write ins maybe they're effecting our dice. But we should warn her to stockpile water.
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>>3675413
That's X-com baby. We do have 1 last hope.

OP I don't suppose I can cash-in good will, memes-that-made-op-laugh or anything of that sort to negate whatever fresh hell is coming our way?

>>3675418
>Im not against romancing her.
I mean the alternative waifu's are
1) Moira.
2) Our disaster preparedness woman.
?) Aki.

>But im not sure if we have time for wifus
Almost certainly not but if I've learned anything, we'll pull a Nox and make time.
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>>3675426
Look out of thise choices im picking Santiago. Shes great.
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>>3675426
>?) Aki.

You MONSTER!
Holding her hands to long would be like rape to her!
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>>3675418
>>3675431
>We'd have to spend an action with her every month or she would send people to kill us.
No.
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>>3675426
Geist is a good QM but that also means they're an unfilling monster. Bribes and begging is just music to their ears.

But I see no reason we can't romance her provided the QM didn't roll for her to not shoot us in the face and got that one.
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>>3675346
I hope its the plague or something else. Terror attack on our new/old HQ?
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>>3675448
Shes not a psycopath yandere. Wtf do you think a relationship is dude.
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>>3675431
Yep.

>>3675438
Implying she hasn't written an entire bot that just takes names from the employee list and writes fanfiction. Also that was why it was a question mark, there's a pretty good chance she has her eyes on fucking a machine but she's sadly a few hundred years early for our cyber-dick.

>>3675449
>Geist is a good QM but that also means they're an unfilling monster. Bribes and begging is just music to their ears.
Oh I know, I just like to always see if I can get a 1 to a 2 whenever I feel I've done a thing. It's like a greek hero asking the gods for help, I don't actually expect shit or even to not get fucked even harder but hey, maybe I'll be the lucky one.
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>>3675456
>Few hundred years early.
Electric battle buddies for female soldiers exist already. Ask Santiago.
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>>3675417
>>3675389
>>3675402
>>3675431

"...together will win out over any odds."

Santiago looks at you for a beat, throws her head back, and then upon restoring her posture, laughs in your face.

Then she blinks a few times in rapid succession.

She pockets the earphones and CD and brings up the walkie-talkie. "Ramirez? Get a security detail and throw this pathetic beta male in the stockade. Tomorrow at zero five hundred he learns the price of a mile. He can ask me out again after he gets in shape, if he survives."

# Fuck this. Run.

# YOUR Nomenklator is still on - you should be able to call a security team... for all the good it'll do.

# YOUR Nomenklator is still on - have your operator report this to Carpatescu before Santiago gets to report you.

# Cooperate. Was that morse code?

>>3675456

Asking the gods for help may be a good call... or a very bad one.
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>>3675453

> not a psycopath yandere

THIS IS OFFICIALLY YOUR FAULT

>>3675465

Cooperate for now, if we run we'll be caught by some Brazilian bodybuilder.
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>>3675465
Well I guess we are fucked now.
>cooperate and use the nomenclature to call for our security teams.
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>>3675465
>Called a beta male for that horrible write in.
I'll take this at as the penalty for the 1. 100%. Making that canon is more painful than anything.
# Cooperate. Was that morse code?
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>>3675465
# YOUR Nomenklator is still on - you should be able to call a security team... for all the good it'll do.
Throw flash bangs and smoke to try to get out of doge!

she totally wants to Dom us.
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>>3675465
# Cooperate. Was that morse code?

I either was or wasn't the lucky one. Further analysis is needed.
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I really hope it was morse. And that it's something useful.
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>>3675465
> # Cooperate. Was that morse code?

Smug it up on the way out.
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>>3675490
Plebe
>>3675491
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>>3675488
I wasn't actually trying to romance her in that just be like we can do shit better. I dont know why any of you vote for me in character interactions when I apperently routinely fuck it up.
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>>3675465
> # Cooperate. Was that morse code?

>You will never have a benevolent dictator GF
Why live?
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Who would be an appropriate god to ask for help. Ares? Maybe. Vulcan? Deformed and decrepit, we aren't a creation like omega. Let's not. Thor? Odin? Tyr? What about gods from South America? We need someone non-malevolent and that we can count on.
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>>3675503
Same, I've probably been awake for a bit too long now (26-ish hours, woot woot) so I'm getting into the point where my writing and reading ability drops. Not to mention the rapid loss of sanity, morality and respect for not meme-ing.
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>>3675503
You are yDclN2hp?
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>>3675508
I pissed off union boy and now this ): i dont even have staying awake to late to blame i just fucked it up
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>>3675501
I tried to look for that image but couldn't find it, was looking for one mainly with abs, but alas I probably lost it in the last computer death.
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Well. At least these guys acknowledge the mistakes. Let it be known there are no spider tanks tonight. Just the spite and maliciousness of RNGsus.
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>>3675483
>>3675488
>>3675491
>>3675506

You spend the night in a dank cell, and are given bread and water for dinner. At least there's a sink and toilet. The guards don't say a word to you, but when accompanying you, removing your equipment - interestingly, they don't dig the Nomenklator out of your ears, and giving you your scraps to eat, they keep joking about "the price of a mile".

Your Portuguese is approximate, but eventually one of them takes pity and tells you, "You run a Roman mile between two lines of soldiers. We hit you with tree branches. You don't pass out, punishment over. You pass out, repeat next day. You pass out three times, kick out of the army. Not sure what happens with you."

You get a sufficient amount of sleep, because

# you suspect that this is some sort of ruse anyway.

# you've arranged for your guys to come get you.

>>3675512
>>3675503
(Thank you for the opportunity to write this scene, actually!)
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>>3675508

(Get some sleep, stuff will still be here when you come back!)
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>>3675518
# you suspect that this is some sort of ruse anyway.
Should we try to ham it up and demand to do this naked and with our arms tied behind our backs?
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>>3675518
# you've arranged for your guys to come get you.
We one up here, and have our boys chase us for TWO mines while shooting angry attack bees at us!

Alternatively we try to impress her by kidnapping her and squirreling her away to a secret bunker that doesn't exist yet.... Fuck.
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>>3675518
Actually can we arrange not for our guys to get us but for them to be prepared to intervene in case price of a mile turns from running while getting beat into Santiago being a time traveling Sabaton fan?
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>>3675523
Depends how big our dick is.
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>>3675525
Veto and veto and veto my friend. I disagree full heartedly.
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>>3675507
I mean, Hermes seems like our god. He's a messenger, we're a messenger, he gets no respect, we get no respect.

That or Prometheus, that mad lad always gives us a wee hand when we're doing mad shit.

>What about gods from South America?
Aye you're going to need to narrow that. I mean the Huacas gods alone would cover you but that is kinda like celt spirits. Your best bets would be Inti, the sun god or this fuck from the musica religion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bochica

He's a god of knowledge, civilisation and all that jazz.

>>3675518
>You get a sufficient amount of sleep, because
We are a pussy.

># you suspect that this is some sort of ruse anyway.
Even if it ain't, lets do this. Even if we crawl across that god damn finish line, arms broken and skull fractured.

>>3675519
>(Get some sleep, stuff will still be here when you come back!)
Nah because I've just hit the stage where all the side-effects of lack of sleep seem to fade away but in fact it's just the loss of the sensation of tiredness and everything is still just as fucked. Plus it's 6 Am, if I go to sleep now I will wake up in the middle of the party I'm attending today.

>>3675523
>Should we try to ham it up and demand to do this naked and with our arms tied behind our backs?
Two things:

1) No.

2) Backs? I didn't realise we were a shoggoth.
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>>3675528
>a time traveling Sabaton fan
What? Is this a new album?

If we don't man up and dominate her she will start calling us a incel and take away our chicken nuggets.
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>>3675501
I'm somewhat disappointment in this picture.
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>>3675525
>secret bunker that doesn't exist yet.... Fuck.
Funny you should mention that, our nuclear material mine would arguably suffice: isolated; primarily underground; staffed only by us; very off the books; in a region she's got little experience or connection to. It's perfect. If she asks where we say Siberia and that a lovely ex-KGB man owed us a favour.

Alternatively, I've been thinking we should buy the Island of Jersey wholesale and take advantage of the large ww 2 german concrete defences as well as the underground bunker complex they built.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU61G6la8o8


I am not serious in the slightest in these suggestions by the way, I've hit full meme.
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Let's pray to Hermes then, and promise to put his name into something soon so he can get the recognition for that. All in favor?
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>>3675540
Yeah, not gonna bring her to our super secret nuke mine when we didn't mention it, in the first place when we could have.

Also its technically Dr. Robertson's domain.... King of his own house if you will. Even if we own the land under it figuratively.
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>>3675532

No Foreman, you are the demons.

And then the Foreman was a shoggoth.

>>3675532
>>3675523
>>3675525

That was a -very- weird nightmare, but given the circumstances, it's understandable. Your Nomenklator's batteries have crapped out, but that is also expected.

You are given breakfast - bread and water again - given a bucket of cold water to wash yourself with, clean underwear, and a few moments of privacy while you relieve yourself. Since there isn't a mile worth of troopers just sitting around for this sort of thing, you'll have to do a few laps in the barracks' courtyard.

Santiago is nowhere to be seen; the drumhead court (literal drumhead by the way) is chaired by an enormous woman who lists your charges as "excess of familiarity with an officer" and explains, in accented English, the rules to you. They're pretty simple: run the laps, don't pass out. The soldiers, in two concentric circles, are holding branches of various local flora; fortunately none of them look spiky. You hope nobody's got anything urticant...

# Briefly pray to Hermes before starting.

# Run. It's unlikely that the soldiers have been told to lay it too heavy.

# Try to be a badass, and walk.

# This is ridiculous, you're a cabinet-level officer, stop this at once, this is madness!
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>>3675546
Nah senpai, we've got this. We just need suitable motivational music.

Also all in favour of naming the soviet style relay satellites the HERMES(Human Extended Range Message Expansion System)-number of satellite ala that one fallout series of orbital weapons or whatever? I know the abreviation doesn't really make too much sense but screw it I couldn't work out that final E.

>>3675553
>Yeah, not gonna bring her to our super secret nuke mine when we didn't mention it, in the first place when we could have.
I mean, to be fair, it's not like we actually use it for anything. We mostly used it to get scientific samples of uranium to study for our nuclear program.

>Also its technically Dr. Robertson's domain.... King of his own house if you will. Even if we own the land under it figuratively.
Actually it's probably closer to Ryan Andrew's but I get what you mean. I guess we'll just have to settle for our own super-villain base off the coast of France...
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>>3675562
># Briefly pray to Hermes before starting.
I've got a song for this I swear.

# Run. It's unlikely that the soldiers have been told to lay it too heavy.
# Try to be a badass, and walk.
Jogging would probably be better?
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>>3675562
# Run. It's unlikely that the soldiers have been told to lay it too heavy.
>>3675578
WE PRAY TO NO GOD!
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>>3675562
# Briefly pray to Hermes before starting.
And do it properly.
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>>3675565

You can start using it at any point; you just haven't had any need for nuclear fuel, or rare metals, yet.

The mine belongs to CATS through a few layers of dummy LLCs; Ryan Andrews has been running it at a modest profit (which he has pocketed), in return for making sure it's ready for use by you when you need it.

It looks like a stripmine crater with a very large combination RTG and fracking system in the middle.
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>>3675587
>WE PRAY TO NO GOD!
No gods, only men and mettle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS65IB7WL4s
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>>3675588
>>3675587
>>3675562

> this is madness!

This is Spartans. They're doing the whole ancient greece thing, let's play along.

# pray to Hermes briefly
# run
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>>3675591
I may have started playing the embedded copy of the song in this tab as well then manually synced them to within about a quarter a second of each-other. It sounds really weird but god damn amazing, it's like everything has the most dramatic echo.

I regret nothing but wearing a headset while doing so.
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No Gods, No Masters!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBLugrlPZ2U
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You keep saying no gods non
masters like it somehow gives a benefit but here we have even the remote possibility to get a buff even if it is roll related and y'all are just going. "nope! Memes!" Like redditers.
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>>3675618
Its a meme praying to any god when you only do so because the situation many warrant it since one is facing some difficulty, rather than them actually being religious.

You sound about as mad as a redditor that got down voted.
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>>3675532
>Prometheus
I actually think this guy fits our character. Not quite a god but buy him a beer and hang out.
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>>3675602
>>3675591
>>3675588
>>3675587
>>3675578
>>3675611


You will not bow your head to man, woman, or deity. But you will run.... and you better.

The moment you start, burly men and slightly less burly women on either side of you begin waving the branches they're holding, some of them actually going through the trouble of smacking your back; what starts as little more than a buffeting soon begins to seriously hurt, because the occasional knot in a branch will scratch your skin, and then any hit in that spot becomes a cause for pain.

And so you run. One lap, another.

You falter, and one of the soldiers in front of you hits your side in just the right way that you can grab his branch for a split second and not fall.

You're discovering aches in muscles you didn't know you had; your back is swollen, reddish, and covered in the sort of little scrape that will heal in three days but really hurts right now. You imagine a lot of blood, but see as you retrace your steps that you've shed a few drops at worst.

And so you run. Another lap. Is it just you or the branches are heavier, the hits more cruel? You're thirsty, and it's hard to gulp. Another lap.

You're about to fall, but at one bang on the drumhead, the twin snakes of soldiers that have tormented you shift their positions, moving from a circle arc to a straight line leading to a door.

And that's when they start hitting a lot harder.

You run, or you try to. At this point it's more of a broken jog. Some of the soldiers hit you in the back rather than the shoulders or sides, and you get to the point of hoping for that, because the extra pain comes with a bit of momentum.

You reach the door, and open it, trying to not make it obvious that you're basically hanging on the doorknob and letting yourself fall forward rather than stepping in.

You have reached the officers' shower; it's what a two-star motel shower stall would look like if it was spotless clean, no doubt thanks to rank privates with toothbrushes.

The lukewarm water feels horrible and good at the same time.

After three or thirty minutes, you put on a towel and step out. The soldiers are gone, so's the drumhead. A guard holds up a briefcase containing your effects. "Colonel Santiago is waiting for you at" he mentions a restaurant's name, something ending in Toing "a jeep will be provided."

You get there to find Santiago primed and ready to attack a tuna steak fresh enough to have been caught earlier today; the place is busy, loud, and smells delicious. She looks suitably impressed.

"Some things you discuss at HQ, some things you discuss in a place like this, Foreman. You've got to understand that operational security doesn't just mean who's tracking who on a screen. Well, you did want training - do you think you have gotten the lesson across to yourself?"

# Get mad.

# Return the laugh she regaled you with earlier.

# Shake her hand.
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>>3675630
# Return the laugh she regaled you with earlier.(false! It's a trap!)
"Hahahahahaha! Ah! Hell I earned that, I thought the Russians were brutal. You know what sign me up for more training. Getting on a real soldiers level can't hurt."
Then we can # Shake her hand.
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>>3675630
# Return the laugh she regaled you with earlier.

So did we only do three laps, or did we manage to do the whole thing.

I figure a secret private palace would be fairly secure and staffed with her most trusted bodyguards.
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>>3675638
It's a trap option, don't seriously take return the laugh you fool.
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>>3675641
But you picked that option too?
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>>3675641
Can we laugh in general? Not a spiteful or mean spirited laugh, but more like laughing it off.
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>>3675647
Reread it. I'd like to laugh but we shouldn't be so insulting. We should swallow some pride even if this situation was so outlandish it made us laugh. I even say false, for it is a trap!
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>>3675630
# Shake her hand.

"Pass me a menu, would you please? I could use something besides bread."

>Well, you did want training - do you think you have gotten the lesson across to yourself?"
When did we ask for training again? Also what was the lesson?

>>3675641
>>3675647
I don't know why but this sequence of 2 posts made me break down laughing.
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>>3675652
Some time after we first met this tank of a woman we took the option to get some military training.
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>>3675656
I remember that but there's a bit of a difference between learning to shoot a gun and semi-willingly enduring torture.
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You know what. If we just got met with that brutal of an ass kicking we should at least mention to her that it's nice to have the real Santiago back instead of that other horrible woman. She had the nerve to send us a limo of all things. A fucking limo. May that imposter rot in hell.
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>>3675652
>I don't know why but this sequence of 2 posts made me break down laughing.
Honk honk
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>>3675652
>>3675656
>military training
Maybe we were dating her all this time and didn't realize it.

Ask her if first dates are always this rough with her, or maybe refer back to our first time doing training with her as our first date.
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>>3675662
Kek this
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>>3675670
>or maybe refer back to our first time doing training with her as our first date.
*ask if the training we had with her in the begging was the first date.
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>>3675638
>>3675636
>>3675652
>>3675662

You laugh heartily. "Pass the menu, bread doesn't do it for me."

"Your mom didn't teach you to eat what's in front of you?" Santiago quips back. To be fair what's in front of you is fresh tuna in carpione, the sort of thing that someone probably went on a fishing trip specifically for.

You and the subpotentate shake hands, after which she asks you a few more details about the Nomenklator's operation, now that you're somewhere safe.

You aren't sure if this constitutes a date, but you are at least reasonably sure that Santiago isn't going to rat you out any more that you are going to rat her out.

The factory will open on schedule, although you'll be a bit sore for the ceremony.

>>3675662
>>3675670
>>3675677


You notice that Santiago's cut her hair short again and, by the look of her, has just gotten here from a workout. "Glad to have you back, Colonel. So, is it always this hard to get a date with you, or does the time when some jackass tried to kill me count?"

"I suppose it means I owe you one, Foreman." Notably, she doesn't answer the other thing, although she's grinning. You're overall sort of happy that you haven't been able to recharge the Nomenklator's batteries, or you'd probably get all sort of teasing back at HQ.

# Bring up the MCP.

# Let's just leave on a high note.
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>>3675670
How about you get some rest buddy.
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>>3675679
# Bring up the MCP.
Ask if she think she can get started on a biotech program if we lend her the money while we focus on making Omega before that. . . Abomination, goes online.
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>>3675680
How about you calm down fren?
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>>3675679
# Bring up the MCP..
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>>3675679
# Bring up the MCP.

If she asks why we didn't mention this, shrug and say "I felt like handling it one giant leap of faith and insane plan at a time. Plus it would be kinda pointless to mention it if you had just killed me."

>>3675686
Nope, we will maintain complete control of any and all research programs. Ideally what we want from her is some government support in getting factories set up in her regions (hopefully lowering complexity, costs or something similar to help accelerate that project).

We might also want to ask about acquiring the rights to produce military equipment in her lands for sale to her / any party that is allowed to buy (plus ourselves).
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>>3675695
>We might also want to ask about acquiring the rights to produce military equipment in her lands for sale to her / any party that is allowed to buy (plus ourselves).
THIS ABSOLUTELY!

build logistic hub in her country.
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Oh shit. We still need to warn her to stockpile drinking water and get ready for losses in shipping.
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>>3675705
Show her the prophecy timeline?
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>>3675707
I guess more like tell her we have a odd suspicion that the trumpet judgements of the fundies might not be so empty a threat.
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>>3675711
What about the disaster information we gave Andrews? Maybe we can give her a slightly better copy.
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So.... Anyone think Ben Tsion is guilty?

Anyway want to try him down and talk to him?

I want to track him and find him, so we strike a deal, he helps us research theology, and we provide him a safe house, and task some of our men to investigate his families murder.

Oh and, since we know there's a huge sanctions about to hit USA, we should let her in on it, to boost her economy and in return we help out with import export things from north and south America. We can make bank just by transporting cargo.

She can easily leverage the situation to boost her economy.
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>>3675816
Let's not get in his way, i'd rather not lose some manpower to that walking Marty.
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>>3675827
But we can subvert him.. or at least get on his good side.
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>>3675828
Walking, Marty. The only good subversion is to put his attention on something else that is "wrong" for him to fix. We do have to prevent him from being present for the endgame though.
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>>3675853
Then why don't we off him?

Why didn't we off him?
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>>3675864
I don't think you understand what a Marty is, so let me put it to you this way. That nigga has plot armor that can beat antitank guns. He will become a glorified in the millennial kingdom anyway. Killing him may be possible, but not while he's plot relevant.
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>>3675900
Wait so it's actually harder to kill him later on when hes got super Jesus powers than now or earlier?

But we aren't plot relevant..... We got injected into this lore by a ghost.... Who does plumbing?

Anyways enough spoilers.
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I still say setting up a tiny island research base somewhere and using it as a prison for all thes individuals we've got to keep away from Israel or other shit would be a good idea.
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>>3675611
ONLY MAN
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKKJ_DhMO58
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>>3676881
I don't get it.
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>>3676102
Not a Morty. Those die all the time.

We're dealing with this nigga https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1508898
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>>3676102
Also killing him isn't harder or easier. That's the wrong way to think of it.

For instance, since he's Prophesied to die, it would be easy to kill him then. But that would bring us one step closer to armageddon.

Just because he's the Antichrist doesn't mean he's our enemy, exactly. We're fighting Fate, divinely mandated and Omnipotently empowered. The only advantage we have is that as the prophecy advances, there is less flexibility in it.

So we have to position ourselves to be able to act at key points when the prophecy is unable to resolve itself according to the "rules".

Essentially, the premise is that God exists and that God CAN make a rock so heavy he can't lift it.
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>>3676938
So whats the plan to make sure Carpatescu dosnt die
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>>3676930
I legit did not mean to post a Morty.
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>>3676938
Talking about Ben.
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>>3676942
Now that's a good question.

Well, the thing is he's supposed to die and resurrect 3 days later. So maybe we could induce "death" but then bring him back right away so he isn't influenced by hell and can be deposed or something then, or even rekilled maybe.
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>>3676971
Same deal different dealer.

We have to subvert his role in a way that doesn't prevent it from happening, but recontextualizes it.
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>>3676942
I would also like to look into a "ship of theseus" option for Carpatescu where we slowly turn him into an AI bit by bit so that he can't be killed because we can run multiple instances.
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>>3677052

There are a few arguments about this, surprisingly.

The timeline you extracted from Rev. Barnes' computer says that there will be a mockery of Jesus' resurrection, so, yes.

However a common translation for Revelation 13:3 is "And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast." which hints at a miraculous recovery from an otherwise fatal head wound, not a resurrection.

(Sorry for not being here today, watching moon things with space frens)
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>>3677054
Then why not go looking for him and trying to guide him down another path.
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>>3677064
Did you see any mysterious moonmen?
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>>3677086
Because we can't copy Carpatescu's hypnovoice yet and we have to find some way to counter a divine revelation style guidance.

Honestly, we allied with Satan once. Maybe we could do it again? Get him to sacrifice Carpatescu and in turn make us the Antichrist.
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>>3677096
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid
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>>3677103
>copy pasty
Disgusting. I feel like I'm on /tv/ or something.
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>>3677098
>Side with Satan
Not everyone is G*ds Chosen.
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>>3677149
>>3677098

Honestly it was a mistake last time allying
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>>3677096

Nah, just a smudge.

>>3675193

That's an interesting concept; the algorithm would have to be made simple enough that it works on a phone.

A Kenyan company callled Safaricom had begun doing something similar with the M-Pesa system, but has struggled to prosper under Rehoboth.

>>3675692
>>3675695

You quickly explain what Carpatescu intends to do with the Burroughs MCP to Colonel Santiago, and she listens attentively. "You know, that's what people were worried about with Synco, or so I'm told. I do remember him saying he wanted to move to a cashless system... either he said that, or had one of us say it for him, either way. What makes no sense to me is that he also wants to set up a flat tax of 10 cents over every electronic transaction; it's going to kill his baby in the crib, I would think."

# Not if it's made mandatory. If the alternative is turning to the black market a lot of people will just pay up and shut up.

# True. This isn't the first time Carpatescu's plans are contradictory. Is he, in turn, under someone's control?
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>>3679743
# Not if it's made mandatory. If the alternative is turning to the black market a lot of people will just pay up and shut up.

Especially given his newly formed secret police: if they were made to report "economic criminals" for using old cash or barter-systems, then it would becoming really unfeasible to anyone who isn't an enemy of the state, a criminal or in good company that they trust.

Plus you run into the IRS-equivalent of the global government: if they see you having wealth you haven't payed tax on then they'll grill every part of your life to find out why and where. Most people won't be willing to risk financial ruin from fines and back-taxes.


Also OP, out of curiosity, if we hadn't made her realise how she'd changed since she last met Carpatescu, how would she have continued to change?
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>>3679756

( I cannot answer that just yet, because it may happen to other subpotentates. )

>>3679756

"Carpatescu is too much of a student of history to not have understood the lesson of the American Prohibition movement. Unless he isn't, and just made us think he is. Thank you for planting some skepticism in my mind, Foreman. What I can do for you in return is, well, turn a blind eye towards you. Here's an idea: let's make it look like we have the sort of backroom deal Carpatescu is willing to tolerate, and let him think we're moving gold, while we move iron."

# Too dangerous, he'd catch on. Just let me build up some industry here.

# By moving iron, do you mean you'd point me to the people supplying your guard with weapons?

# Sounds good, misdirection at this stage is appropriate.

Santiago looks at herself, and breaks out the walkie-talkie. "Ramirez, cancel my ride back, I'm running to HQ. I'm fucking flabby."
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>>3679743

>>3679756
Support
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>>3679810
>Just let me build up some industry here. Militaristic opposition is part of his plan we should probably avoid being a part of it.
So basically our plan from this point is to build a shadow economy using our economic AI to prevent his change to all electronic. If everyone is using our systemhe cant reasonably punish everyone right?
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>>3679810
>( I cannot answer that just yet, because it may happen to other subpotentates. )
I more so meant the her-specific things, seeing as the major difference was her decreased militancy / self-restraint but fair enough.

>>3679810
# Too dangerous, he'd catch on. Just let me build up some industry here.
# By moving iron, do you mean you'd point me to the people supplying your guard with weapons?

>>3679834
That and possibly a straight up sabotage of the MCP if all else fails: either by making it not interact with the network properly (seeing as we have near-total control over all MA, Orbital and WA Networks, this shouldn't be unfeasible to do, the real issue is hiding that we're responsible) or by adding in a kill-switch using our inside-contact programmer or something.
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>>3679834

Good question!

Carpatescu wants to have the MCP control everyone's finances from on high; you can get on board with that and then subvert it, set up a decentralized e-currency instead, or use your own expert system to ensure that a parallel barter economy exists. Or any other thing, really.

Carpatescu is thinking 1980s style mainframe-and-terminal, but you have built an Internet that is very mesh oriented; up to a point, it will interpret censorship or lockdown as damage, and route around it.

>>3679834

"Works for me. That said, should your current ironmonger fail you, you are absolutely, expressly, explicitly forbidden from asking my help in finding a replacement. In particular, do not, by any means, ask my personal assistant. Security concerns, you understand."

She winks, and leaves - at a run, like she said she would. For a moment you worry that she's stuck you with the bill; instead, the maitre d' announces that Ramirez is here with a jeep and will take you back to the airport or wherever you may need to go.

The grand opening of the Santiago facility is underwhelming, specifically to avoid attracting attention to it; all over the former country of Chile, teletypewriters that have been left unusued for decades are dusted off and put back into operation until they can be replaced with modern terminals. Surprisingly, the hundreds of kilometers of wiring underlying the system are still in good shape, with only a few shorts to take care of.

Flying back to North America, you get word that Santiago has set up her own Nomenklator to only work as a walkie talkie, audio amplifier and hypnosis jammer: she doesn't want to let her memory weaken by trusting a machine instead of it. Well, that'll make the batteries last longer.

You take a bit of time on the plane to read a report about the subpotentates' personal guard corps: it seems that each has established one. As part of Carpatescu's demilitarization initiative, and likely so he can quickly quash any rebellion, they are strictly limited in terms of manpower and, crucially, may not include naval or air units. As a result, most subpotentates have set up an elite heavy infantry corps, to get the most out of their restrictions. Little wonder Santiago patterned them after the Spartans, really.

Dimmsdale's men look like a cross between Texas rangers and heavy riot police with NBC gear; the brown dusters and black armor are legitimately intimidating.

Surprisingly, Rebohoth's look the most "normal"; you half expected a high tech version of tribal warriors, but see that they have camo uniforms and Chinese counterfeits of Soviet gear, mostly.

Pravin Lal isn't stupid: he is an avowed pacifist, but for his continental police force, he hired Ghurkas, giving them the traditional turn-of-last-century uniform.

Yang went with a genericized version of Mao's revolutionary guards, in style if not substance.

(Wow this turn took forever to do!)

# End month.

# Anything else?
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>>3679886

You may have noticed that each subpotentate espouses a particular set of ideologies.

On the other hand, Nicolae says that he wants peace, but seems intent on achieving it by setting up a minimum-common-denominator world, flattening the cultural landscape.

In Santiago's case, it would mean relaxing her stance on self-discipline and self-reliance...
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>>3679887
# Anything else?
Call dimsdale, see if we can find out what prep he took to deal with the sanctions if any, or if he even knows about them.
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>>3679890
>In Santiago's case, it would mean relaxing her stance on self-discipline and self-reliance...
Yeah I get that but I was more so curious just how far that would've went: would we eventually have came to South america to find her having a cup of tea on a fancy couch watching some Telenovela rather than training?
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>>3679900

"Sanctions? They aren't sanction, it's just a matter of accountability! Dear boy, I was the one making that suggestion in the first place. It's high time that the coastal elites start paying their fair share! The money will be sent to New Babylon - virtually, you understand, pretty high tech stuff - and then dispatched back to be used for redevelopment projects worldwide, including the midwest."

# Uh, okay....

# Sir, doesn't that literally go against everything you stand for as a Texan?

>>3679907

(Probably, yes. May or may not include letting the pool boy lounge around and be decorative. I do have a few vignettes prepared for that sort of thing.)
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>>3679912
#"For fucks. Dimsdale. I'd like you to do the math on how much 50% will take from your regions industry and ability to operate. I know you have a Nomenklature, so use it and get the figures for what impact it will have on your ability to move food and medicine."
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>>3679912
>Sir, dosnt that literally go against everything you stand for as a Texan.
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>>3679933
>>3679934

The man hems and haws a little, unsure what to do with your tone. "Foreman! You forget your place - don't go around meddling in my business."

He does, however, order a financial analysis of the new economic model that, supposedly, he championed. "Why I've checked these numbers already, I'm sure. I'm not a man of numbers myself, but I'm smart enough to hire smart people for the specialist stuff. And on that point - you're one of them, Foreman, but don't forget - your specialty is keeping them phones running, not balancing accounts! Stay in your lane, son."

"You can always tell a Texan, but you can't tell him much" comments one of your engineers, who happens to be from Dimmsdale's home state.
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>>3679912
# Sir, doesn't that literally go against everything you stand for as a Texan?

"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Not enabling excessive taxation by a distant government without representation, something you know that the people aren't going to have a choice over in a few months once everyone is a dictatorship?

Plus these taxes are being raised because of attacks by fringe elements. Whatever happened to a man's actions being his own? Why are good citizens who did nothing but live in the wrong place being essentially charged with treason and being forced to pay? Have they not suffered enough from the bombings, death and plutonium poisoning?

Not to mention that these attacks threaten the economic prosperity and thus freedom of your people, can't you see? Are you secretly a socialist or a communist, do you think these punitive taxes against productive private industry and interests won't stop the american dream and prevent good men and women from being rewarded for their work? Unless they get grants from a central government project, like some sort of socialist state or a communist one, they won't see jack from this program but their lives be worse as every dollar they make is stripped down."
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>>3679953
>TFW OP is too quick on the draw
God dammit.
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>>3679953
"I'm coming back to America Dimsdale. I'll want to see you some time after a month. Preferably at the node center."
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>>3679957
Rejecting and motioning to squash this write in.
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>>3679966
Whats wrong with the write in i liked it?
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>>3679970
I presume he finds it too aggressive. I admit I did too honestly but I can't help but think pressing this issue any less wouldn't work.
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>>3679970
The fact that long and excessively gaudy and preachy like we're a bad anime character is what got us beaten by branches in South America!
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>>3679976
It honestly doesn't matter given we're already past the post I was writing in for, OP can just ignore it.
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>>3679957

(Sorry. I am seeing >>3679933 and your posts as the same color if I don't pay attention!)


>>3679957
>>3679962

You reckon that if you weren't American yourself, he'd have hung up on you by now, but he hasn't.

When you tell hem that you want to meet, his reply is that he'll meet you at a time and place of HIS choosing, and you better hop to it, boy.

However, the calendar program on your laptop indicates that it's been accepted: you will meet Dimmsdale at the Network Node in Ohio.

You consider calling him a communist to his face - it wouldn't even be an unfair accusation - but there's the fact that he's your landlord, at least until you move enough equipment and personnel to Chile. Nothing wrong with getting ready to make that accusation in public and with supporting evidence, since he admitted to having made the suggestion to Carpatescu himself...
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>>3679991
>>3679976
>>3679970

(Sorry for jumping the gun a bit, is there any way to change the autorefresh on the page?)
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>>3680004
>your posts as the same color if I don't pay attention!)
Yeah this is one of the issues with the ID system. It wouldn't be so bad if the ID was 2-3 times the size it is so you could read it more easily at a glance.

>You consider calling him a communist to his face - it wouldn't even be an unfair accusation - but there's the fact that he's your landlord, at least until you move enough equipment and personnel to Chile. Nothing wrong with getting ready to make that accusation in public and with supporting evidence, since he admitted to having made the suggestion to Carpatescu himself...
Only one thing to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWsxkzSzKRo


>>3680011
Nope it goes at that set rate. Maybe in settings but I've never heard of such a way.
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Hello, Foreman! You are planning CATS' operations for the month.

Rules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.Quest2Rules.html
Datalinks: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.Quest2Datalinks.html
Tentative timeline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BlMOSEOxSihj1gdagq7yxCjONaRBgcdlRxnc68uWf0A

You can deploy yourself on TWO actions for a small bonus to all rolls. Your Nomenklator system can be issued to ONE team per turn, for a small bonus to all rolls.

Dr. Robertson can be deployed on ONE action for a large bonus to R&D rolls or a small bonus to any non-covert rolls.

Ryan Andrews can be deployed on ONE action for a large bonus to construction rolls or a small bonus to any non-covert rolls.

Moira McSingh can be deployed on ONE action per turn, for a medium bonus to covert rolls or a small bonus to all rolls. She can give basic combat capability to a work crew.

Aki Lattinen can be deployed on TWO actions per turn, for a medium bonus to R&D or construction rolls. She will hack into things if bored.

Performing an action outside of your home territory will also require the availability of (complexity) fleet assets, OR renting them at the cost of 1/asset.

C0 (Free):

Move the Garibaldi (Mediterranean, Arctic, Atlantic, Indian, Pacific).

Track someone (max 3)

Buy equipment on the open market:
Power generation 1
Small arms 1
Network equipment 2
Fleet assets 2
Aerospace part 3
Supplies (food, fuel etc) 0.33


C0 (Agent):

Survey a territory for opportunity using an agent. Not surveyed: Northern Europe, Western Europe, China, India, Greenland, Japan, Indochina, Pacific Islands, Afghanistan,

Madagascar, Sahara, Central Africa, Israel, Middle East, Western Russia

Construct a CellSol pylon (Needs 1 network part)

Undergo combat training (Max 1 per month)

Tail someone.

Buy equipment on the black market:
Small arms 1
Squad weapons 2
Stimulants 1

C1:

Reconfigure the Garibaldi (generic, cargo, hospital, strike, orbital)

Tail someone.

Survey a territory for opportunity using a team.

Hire out a covert operations team for a situational reward.

Construct network equipment.

Procure network equipment and construct a CellSol pylon.

Make and sell consumer-grade Nomenklators (Net gain 1BN). Reveals it.

C2:

Do research (1~3).

Construct an aerospace part.

Construct a logistics hub (cap 1 fleet requirement for that territory; can deploy covert teams there with no advance notice; costs 1 power; stores supplies)

C3:

Recruit a work team.

Schedule a satellite launch, which will happen at the end of NEXT month. Requires an aerospace part.

Do research (4~6).

C4:

Recruit a covert team.

Do research (7~9).

Construct a network node. (unifies cell and net; costs 1 power, 1 network)

Start DEW research.

C5:

Rush a satellite launch, which will happen at the end of this month. Requires 1 aerospace part.

Construct a base and a network node at the same time (2 power, 1 network)

Do research (10).

What are your orders?
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>>3680157

I'm a derpfus. The current mandate is of course "Bring internet and phone connectivity to (2)".
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>>3680204
Haha was wondering why some things were missing. So only on factory per territory then?
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So team i think we should get pur logistics AI to 10 vefore getting everything to two that way we can easily subvert the cashless system using out AI
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>>3680245
Yeah I was wondering this too, I thought factories were a C-4 action but that ain't on the list? Also does South america now count as our home region now we've got a second HQ there?

>>3680255
Agreed. I would point out that we will probably take a fair few turns to fulfil this mandate so it's not too much of a worry.
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>>3680280

You've already set up a factory in Santiago's territory - she wants to see what it does before allowing more, especially since to a layman Synco and the MCP don't look very different.

The factory system will, breaking even, give you 1BN worth of stuff every month (be it consumer goods, emergency supplies, small arms, network or power equipment, etc). Alternatively, it will count as 1 team towards preparedness R&D, by selling preparedness systems to the general market at or below cost so that more of the public adopts them.
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>>3680157
My plan is
>3 team recruit 1 work team
>3 team make a factory in north south america with ryan
>3 team make a factory in middle America with aki
>3 team work on logistics AI with aki
>1 team.make network parts
Have factory make network parts

Distribute network parts to south america where node is and middle north america where node is.

> 4 covert teams work with moira
>we visit dimsdale and do meeting

If we can just stack factories in south america i change to

>12 work teams make 4 factories in south america have ryan on one us on one aki on two
>1 team research logistics ai with Dr Robertson
>Factory make network parts
>Distribute them in south america.
>4 covert teams work with moira.
>us visit dinsdale.
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>>3680157
Also what is DEW research?
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>>3680320

Enough of your people have mentioned directed energy weapons to you that you've considered starting a research program about it.
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>>3680157
To start we need to finish our AI before that abomination us ready so we can replace it when it fails. It's C3 so we should put 3 teams on it and Aki.

We also need to do the Node in Africa.
We can put 4 teams on it to do it properly and spend 2 covert teams there. That takes away seven of our 13 work teams. We can expend the last six evenly between the UK, USA and Egypt. As well as use the last two covert teams to make sure that we can protect vital infrastructure in America from armed thieves we can have Aki work in Africa or America, as her second action. We will meet with dimsdale and oversee the Africa Node. Robertson we can maybe call in to help with the UK but Andrews should be in America. Moria in Egypt or Africa, we need someone combat capable there. Steel I say have him ready to intervene in Africa or Egypt for us.
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>>3680317
>3 team make a factory in north south america with ryan
>3 team make a factory in middle America with aki
We are currently incapable of doing either of these.

>Distribute network parts to south america where node is and middle north america where node is.
If I'm reading the images right, we have no network parts in stock and you only plan on making 1.

>>3680320
Direct Energy Weapon - Lasers, particle beams and all that fancy high tech shit. Potentially useful but almost certainly something to leave until much, much later.

Which reminds me, next month we get our budget in and we have 32 Nicks to worth with. I'd suggest that this turn we focus on getting in place to make use of this large cash injection by getting work teams recruited and giving them Nomenklator headsets to improve their work efficiency. That way next turn we will be able to rapidly create a factory network and begin deploying assets to other projects.

>>3680336
Question OP, you know how our factories and teams can produce Nomenklator headsets? How many teams / factories would we need to dedicate in order to equip a work team? I want to see if it is feasible to accelerate the equipping of our work teams beyond the current 1-per-turn rate.
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>>3680355
Anon, we have priorities right now. We can't afford to waste resources on factories. We have to break prophecy, this turn the sanctions are set to cause "the worst famine and plague in history."
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>>3680355

By this point your guys have consumer-grade Nomenklators - they look like fancy headsets.

The stealth Nomenklators that you have, which also allow for noise cancellation, however are a lot more expensive to make, the effective yield is somewhere around 15%. In addition, since they are still a secret, production is still in-house (as in, you have a few people you can trust wiring them up by hand at HQ); you buy the chips, and put them together dead-bug-style because there's no room for a PCB.

(OOC note: And if you've ever done that sort of work, you spend a lot of time worrying that an unexpected bit of vibration will wreck the build. At least in my case I wasn't making wearables, just things you'd stick to a larger satellite to do something with the last few grams of usable mass budget).
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>>3680303
Ok so no more factories then. In that case changing plan here
>>3680317 to.

My plan is
>3 team recruit 1 work team
>3 team work on logistics AI with aki
>2 team work on cellular solar with us
>2 team work on prepardness with aki
>2 team work on nuclear with Robertson
>2 team.make network parts
>Have factory make network parts
>Distribute network parts to south america where node is and middle north america where node is.
>hold onto one network part
> 4 covert teams work with moira
>we visit dimsdale and do meeting


>>3680355
In that old plan the facrory made one amd a team.made one.

>>3680351
We did put a node in africa last turn tho
>>3680204
Geist where is out africa node?
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>>3680386
How do you plan to break the prophesy? The one you set up here
>>3680351
Really dosnt make any sense other then making a node and research. What are those teams actually doing?
Could you break it down like mine?
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>>3680403

(Thanks for catching that)
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>>3680157
>Do research (4~6). Aki, Omega AI.
>Construct a network node. (unifies cell and net; costs 1 power, 1 network) 4 teams and Us.
>One team, subvert Sanctions in Egypt, Moria.
>4 team Andrews and Aki, North America, subvert Sanctions.
>One team, Robertson, UK subvert the sanctions.
>Second action, us meet dimsdale.
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>>3680427
How would they be subverting the sanctions it would be a direct tax its that 50% he was talking of. Also having our teams openly work against it sounds like a quick way to get a bullet in our head.
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>>3680425
If we already have one in Africa we can move one of the 4 teams to North America and use the other three on starting a factory.
Also. Covert teams.
>1 in America. 1in egypt. 1 in UK.
The last one, something in Africa.
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>>3680435
The money needs to go to the GC, but that doesn't mean we can't arrange for resources to keep moving and people to figure out how to ensure that the plague and famine don't actually happen. It's the plague and famine we have to stop.
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>>3680427
>>3680435
>>3680444


You'd have to develop a method to subvert the sanctions. Some trial and error is required. Northern Africa is not a bad place to try to do that in, since people there at this point probably like you better than Rebohoth. However, keep in mind that Cairo has joined the United Carpathian States, and is therefore under Carpatescu's direct supervision.
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>>3680448

Under the new arrangement, money would be transferred to the Global Community, which would then issue block grants to each territory. It's unclear to you if this means actual trains full of bills and coins (which is what Carpatescu implied), or if it's the beginning of implementing the cashless system (Dimmsdale seems to think so).
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>>3680386
>We have to break prophecy, this turn the sanctions are set to cause "the worst famine and plague in history."
I agree anon but I fail to see how your plan fixes this fact. In all honesty, >>3680403's plan in this post is honestly decent and provides just as much of a chance to stop this famine as yours. We have no idea of the politics of the European Subpotenate so for all we know they might very well agree with the current plans. Which means that just visiting Dimsdale so we can have him break the conditioning is probably all we can do.

Once north and south america are united against the attempts to restrict free trade, they should be at least somewhat capable of preventing the famine. Although I think that we'll have a greater effect if we begin stockpiling supplies of the super-growth shit that the Israelis developed: my guess is that is what not be traded with the blockaded nations and will cause a famine.


Look, I have to go eat, I leave it to you anons to work out how this should all work. Best of luck and at least try to convince Dimsdale to drop his support from these actions as well as general good shit.
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>>3680452
>>3680457
Hmn. We don't exactly have the ability to do trial. It's the month of the sanctions. We should target people through the networks we control to get them to make some hydroponics and buy up some non-perishable foods for lasting a month. As for medicines we can probably have them rerouted from neighboring countries or make use of the America's extensive manpower and resource independence to make them start producing for supplies.
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>>3680427
How about we do

>3 team recruit 1 work team
>3 team work on logistics AI with aki
>2 team work on cellular solar with us
>2 team work on prepardness with aki
>2 team work on nuclear with Robertson
>1 team.make network parts
>Have factory make network parts
>Distribute network parts to south america where node is and middle north america where node is.
>hold onto one network part
> 2 covert teams work with moira
>we visit dimsdale and do meeting
> have 1 work team and 2 covert teams look into gow best to subvert the sanctions in africa as test run. If it fucks up its on Rehoboth not us.
>we semd steele to Israel to see if we can get a deal with the super growth producers seperate from the global community this way looking into what
>>3680469
Is talking about and potentially getting a seperate food supply. We wamt either seeds or if not just the cood itself.
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>>3680484
The santions will take time to kill everyone its not gonna be the end of the world right away. We have already bought supply's and we need to save some money for next turn
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>>3680495

An estimate of the current global environmental hostility index is available in the top right corner.
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>>3680516
What does that 18.6 value really mean. Just hiw shit everything is out of 100?
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>>3680521

Estimated 5-year population loss compared to optimum-growth projections (not actual megadeaths per month: includes abortions, miscarriages, and people deciding that they cannot afford to have children, or that the world is too shit to have children in and have them grow up in a safe environment).

Note that "environmental" means "due to the environment": you're tracking the health of humanity, not of the biosphere.

In addition, note that your understanding of the prophecies is not absolute.

While the MCP and Synco systems (Temporary name: you are free to pick a new one) are not operational yet, a tracker has been added to indicate their global influence in the futures markets.
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>>3680538
So basically we expect population to drop by 18.6 million in 5 years.
That really isnt bad considering the 2 meteors.
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>>3680555

Your projections will become more accurate as data point is accumulated.

Notably, the bits of them that are derived from the crazy amount of notes that Pastor Barnes took, include abortions and miscarriages as deaths, for ideological/religious reasons.
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>>3680538
>>3680488
Was rereading post and saw that we could track people

In a addition to my plan lets track
>Rehoboth
>our arms dealer if possible see whos buying weapons
>Tsion

>>3680688
Any recommendations on how to get more religous research?
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>>3680488
>Is talking about and potentially getting a separate food supply. We want either seeds or if not just the food itself.
I meant the super-fertiliser that relies on trade with Israel to produce / purchase. It makes sense that, given the world's consistent food supply is dependent on it, if the supply was cut by the sanctions then there'd be a massive loss of food production leading to a famine.

Fact is we can't realistically stockpile enough food to ever equal the production increase or to put a dent in the needs of north america and Europe.
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>>3680699
Right add fertilizer on there. I forgot that it was a fertilizer and not some seed they engineered. It may be worth genetically engeneering our own foods to survive in harsh conditions but i imagine that would be down the prepardness tree.
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>>3680727
Probably more so the south american bio-research thing.
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>>3680695

Your best bet to improve your understanding of theology as it relates to Carpatescu's alleged role as the Antichrist is to look for experts to ask questions of.

Combing for members of the Christian Remnant in your own organization is technically illegal, but can likely be done as part of an attempt to ensure that they are not discriminated against.
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Lets see if we can get a team of them to properly analyze the potential future as fortold.
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>>3681022

That's a long term project; they'd be removed from the general work pool for a few months.

They would have to travel, talk to people, possibly listen in on people, pose as prospective converts, take on work for what Remnant organizations exist while they give you intel on them...

# A work team can do this mostly above the table, possibly make useful connections, and face less danger if they are busted.

# A covert team is more likely to not be subverted, and has more operational flexibility.
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>>3681078
A work team can do this. Howabout the new one we are recruiting focus our efforts on the types of people that would be good at this.
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>>3681102

shouldn't we track the secret police morale monitor guys since they are a new org and we can infiltrate them early?

fuck there's too much stuff to do.
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>>3681141
Thats a good idea. I only wanted to track tison to get more religion with this
>>3681078
Im down for switching tsion out for them so new main post to vote for what to do


>3 team recruit 1 work team
>3 team work on logistics AI with aki
>2 team work on cellular solar with us
>2 team work on prepardness with aki
>2 team work on nuclear with Robertson
>1 team.make network parts
>Have factory make network parts
>Distribute network parts to south america where node is and middle north america where node is.
>hold onto one network part
> 2 covert teams work with moira
>we visit dimsdale and do meeting
> have 1 work team and 2 covert teams look into gow best to subvert the sanctions in africa as test run. If it fucks up its on Rehoboth not us.
>we send steele to Israel to see if we can get a deal for the fertilizer seperate form the global community

We will track
>Rehoboth
>Arms dealer
>the new secret police
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>>3681202

Looks good to me.

WE MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS.
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>>3681202
>the new secret police

We really need to spend some time recruiting more agents and heroes, they can fill up independent or low complexity actions for us. We keep putting this off. We don't even have a spy ffs.
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>>3680011
The shortest you can set it is like 10 seconds. if it increases the delay in between updates or its stuck in "auto", then click it again, or close the tab and open a new one to the thread.
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Imagine if everyone spoke a language you don’t understand. For many with autism, this is the language of emotion. For those on the spectrum, fluency in facial expressions doesn’t come for free as it does for “neurotypicals.” To them, reading facial expressions seems like a superpower.

So when my son was diagnosed, I reacted not just as a mom, but as a coder. When he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes, I hacked his insulin pump and wrote a program that learned to match his insulin to his activities. Everyone can write programs for Nommies and most smartphones; you just have to download a compiler. So, I wrote one for my son, to analyze voice and tell him - with decent accuracy - if the person he's talking to is happy or sad or angry.

Performance-enhancing devices like these are in our near future. You can think of them like music equalizers. You might already have a program on your phone that allows you to amplify the bass and treble of the songs you listen to. Adjusting the slider around doesn’t fundamentally change the song, but it emphasizes different elements, from the clarity of voice in an opera to the big bass drop of dance music.

Now imagine the program equalizes you. Instead of adjusting the power at different sound frequencies, sliding a controller on this app boosts your attention or dampens your creativity. Add in a boost for memory and you are ready to cram for an exam. Hit the “Date Night” preset to stimulate emotion and focus while dampening cognition. (If there’s a bad romantic comedy in your near future, why be too smart to enjoy it?) These abilities could become a sweet-16 gift from hyper-competitive parents, or bought in Silicon Valley strip malls as performance-enhancing pick-me-ups.

Where do we draw the line between boosting human potential and eroding our humanity? Any system I build follows a rule: You should not only be better when you’re using it, you should be better when you turn it off. Neuroprosthetics shouldn’t replace what we can do; they should augment who we aspire to be.

I don’t want to “cure” someone of themselves. Especially not my son. I want them to be able to share that self with the world.

Kurt Vonnegut’s short story Harrison Bergeron imagined a planet in which prosthetic handicaps make us all equal by removing advantage. While a standardized world may seem utopic, it is equally possible that we’d lose our rich differences through over-augmentation as well. If we assume there is only one kind of strength, one kind of beauty, or one kind of intelligence, then we might super-normalize away the rich difference of human existence. Augmentation could also become a tool to entrench inequality even more firmly.

This tech should be used to give people with disabilities the ability to exist and thrive in a neurotypical world. But what happens once everyone has a superpower in their back pocket?

What happens when we all want to become superhuman?

- GCW letter to the editor
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>>3683606
That is a very interesting article.
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>>3683658

I adapt real news articles to this settings sometimes, I hope that it helps with immersion!

>>3681202
>>3682101

is this one good then?
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>>3683696
Yeah thats the plan.
Those news articles you adapt are very cool. It does help with inmersion a ton.
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>>3681202
But shouldn't we wait till the sanctions are in full effect first?
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>>3683829
Before what? Working to subvert it? Betterto find out operations as they are starting
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Rolled 74, 40, 12, 48 = 174 (4d100)

Since your mandate is to simply improve the infrastructure to the point where cashless transactions can become the default, you set your work teams to square their shoulders and get busy with grunt work; you personally oversee the installation of the first additional pylons coming from the factory in Chile, and let one of your groups handle the work in North America. This time around, you leave Andrews out of it; he needs to be reminded that he's not in charge. Your request for additional manpower goes through without a hitch, given your current mandate, and this time around you're happy to not supervise the recruitment process yourself. Your recruiters are nearly sure that at least one of the prospective newcomers had been recruited by the Morale Monitors, but he was intercepted. You have a large organization, at this point; the larger it gets, the easier it is that someone will infiltrate it.

One issue with Carpatescu's reforms are that a nascent industry of order-by-internet, deliver-by-mail companies ranging from groceries to video cassettes and DVDs is essentially sideswiped; upon the announcement of the new tax on e-purchases, Pets.com shuts down, and a number of other startups retrench or scale back their projections. Oddly enough, a few people within the Christian Remnant applaud the move. Gas stations everywhere start showing different prices depending on whether one is paying with cash or with a card.

You send the Garibaldi back to the Mediterranean, asking her Captain to go to Israel and try to negotiate the purchase of some of the Eden fertilizer catalyst that is still extremely hard to produce outside of Israel. The man is frustrated in his efforts; while he understands diplomacy, people keep mistaking him for Carpatescu's pilot for some reason, and give him precious little attention due to him having no ties to the financial industry.

The ship, recently refit for a strike role, is used as a base by your covert team; you send half of your forces into Northern Africa and Egypt, along with a team of technicians, to work out how to subvert the punitive taxes Carpatescu wants to put in place. There they find that the people of Egypt have largely solved the problem by petitioning to be governed by Carpatescu directly; on the eve of the attacks, he agreed, with the result that other than a small portion of Egypt, the brunt of the sanctions will be borne by the UK and North America. However, while there, they manage to make contact with the private equity fund calling itself the International Commodity Co-Op, who were also engaged in similar efforts. Upon return, your teams report that one feasible way to counteract the sanctions would be to set up a barter network; another would be using a quasi-currency electronic token, possibly derived by proof of work, so as to take advantage of the fact that the electronic transfer tax is flat; finally, you could take a page from Brazil's playbook and establish an electronic URV.
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>>3683853


You will eventually have to settle on one of these options, but for now, you make sure that the Synco coding can be set up to handle any of them in its economic modeling; having an economic model based on the movement of real resources, rather than only the financial markets, will likely be an advantage when it comes to accuracy.

The International Commodity Co-Op had sent a small team to, effectively, do the same thing as you; their leadership seems to be Christian, but they call themselves a nondenominational organization. Your teams make sufficient contact that you will be able to communicate with them in the future, via secure text messaging. You do know that they were the cause of the food price spike that immediately preceded the bombings.

Aki makes progress on the logistics AI, using data provided from the teams in Egypt as well as those crunching numbers at HQ: your system will be able to automatically subcontract local shipping businesses as necessary, ensuring that your current logistic hubs can serve an entire region rather than a single territory. (Logistic hubs now cover a whole color). She finds the old Synco software very interesting, and spends some of her time building a replica of one of the chairs, except with working small monitors. It looks a bit more Star Trekish than she intended, but so it goes, and a few people come to work in Starfleet cosplay for a couple of days. For lack of a better word, your logistics AI is currently called Cybersyn in English and Synco in Spanish - most of your people seem to have adopted the latter, simply because it's shorter and it lets the programmers make Short Circuit references.

You supervise design improvements on Cellular-Solar infrastructure: by now the pylons are almost entirely prefabricated, and you're sure that with a little bit more effort it will be possible to come up with a design that can be carried on location by a single truck and unfolded in place.

This month, Aki is too distracted by learning tight, efficient (and fairly unmaintainable) 1970s style programming to make much progress on preparedness; the teams assigned to working with her end up having to depend on Carla for direction instead, and she's more of a production person. Your preparedness remains fairly good, but does not improve significantly.

Dr. Robertson makes some progress in his efforts to reconstruct the Manhattan Project; he sends some notes on the increased safety margins for Farnsworth fusors and rotary accelerators along, in case anyone wants to apply them for other uses.

He estimates that it will be possible to run a baseline nuclear test using 0.5 units of nuclear fuel, although it would have to be performed somewhere uninhabited, or underwater, to avoid detection and for safety. Subsequent setups would be deployable and require twice as much uranium.
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>>3683900

Moira looks for available options for covert work.

# Rebohoth's Peacekeepers are still in charge of part of Egypt. They have taken the "sanctions" as, effectively, a license to loot the desert towns for what little they have. Protect them. 1BN

# A disparity in taxation between Europe and the northern islands has caused the return of smuggling, to exactly nobody's surprise. So far it looks like it's mostly cigarettes, booze, and chocolate. 1BN
* Terry April wants it stopped, by force if necessary.
* Od Gustav wants an investigation.
* The smugglers want cover, or a distraction.

# By the same token, there are some problems at the Panama canal. Private military companies are being contracted for patrol duty. 1BN

# Things in South Africa have calmed down a little bit, but tribal tensions have risen in the Great Lakes region. Operating here will allow for greater familiarity with the terrain should you choose to attack Rebohoth's palace directly someday. 1BN
* Help the Hutu.
* Help the Tutsi.
* Help the Twa.
* Try to help keep the peace.

# Territorial tensions in Crimea are flaring up, with a sizeable minority of the population wanting to join Gustav's territory after rumors of unethical experiments on the population by Zakharov's researchers. 1BN
* Help the separatists.
* Help the subpotenate.
* Try to help keep the peace.
In addition to all of this, you have to meet with Subpotentate Dimmsdale, and you can, at your discretion, contact the head of the International Commodity Co-Op via anonymized chat line to discuss the sale of supplies and power equipment.

# Focus on Dimmsdale.

# Sure, let's see what their offer is.
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>>3683955
So as our two covert teams realy didnt do much looking into the subverting are they able to do jobs?

For the two we two have lets go with

>protect the desert towns

>investiage the smuggling

Do we know much about the 3 tribes that would help us choose which one we want to support if any?
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>>3683955
# Focus on Dimmsdale.
# By the same token, there are some problems at the Panama canal. Private military companies are being contracted for patrol duty. 1BN

I'm tempted by the African adventure, but they just had a massive genocide and getting into that will be messy, we would have to pick a side.
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>>3683955
> Lets focus on dimsdale for now

Next turn lets talk to the Co-Op
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They ensured the safety of the work team as they snooped around and worked out possible solutions to the sudden increase in taxation. They also made contact with the ICCO.

Upon return, your teams report that there are a few feasible ways to counteract the sanctions:

set up a barter network

use a quasi-currency electronic token, possibly derived by proof of work;

take a page from Brazil's playbook and establish an electronic URV.
>>3683984
>>3683979

You head to the Ohio network node for your meeting with Dimmsdale; the man looks chubbier, has a bigger hat than you remember, and you're pretty sure that he didn't have longhorns etched on his belt buckle last time you saw him.

He doesn't look too happy. You've taken over the WCW radio station boardroom for this meeting.

"Well, Foreman, what is it that's so important that you wanted me to come here in person? I'm as busy as you, if not more. There's a bunch of work to do in New England and California, and I've got to make sure it gets done quickly and fairly. So what is it?"
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>>3683955
>However, while there, they manage to make contact with the private equity fund calling itself the International Commodity Co-Op, who were also engaged in similar efforts.
Good, another group we may ally with.

>Upon return, your teams report that one feasible way to counteract the sanctions would be to set up a barter network; another would be using a quasi-currency electronic token, possibly derived by proof of work, so as to take advantage of the fact that the electronic transfer tax is flat; finally, you could take a page from Brazil's playbook and establish an electronic URV.
Barter network is probably easiest. It also avoids any technical legal ramifications if we get discovered since there is no law saying people can't avoid the electronic tax by not paying in cash or avoid using online payment entirely by trading physical resources.

>Your request for additional manpower goes through without a hitch, given your current mandate, and this time around you're happy to not supervise the recruitment process yourself. Your recruiters are nearly sure that at least one of the prospective newcomers had been recruited by the Morale Monitors, but he was intercepted. You have a large organisation, at this point; the larger it gets, the easier it is that someone will infiltrate it.
We might want to assign a team or two to just double check everyone's background and shit. One of the older teams would be best.

>(Logistic hubs now cover a whole color).
Fuck yes, that means we can operate in all of Russia, South and North America without fleet asset costs more or less for both work and covert teams (who therefore can now be deployed there without warning, essentially giving us strike capacity over 1/2 of the world in terms of territories). Still for global coverage we need another 7, how damn annoying that the east and europe is filled with tiny regional Subpotenates unlike the Americas, Africa and Russia.

>He estimates that it will be possible to run a baseline nuclear test using 0.5 units of nuclear fuel, although it would have to be performed somewhere uninhabited, or underwater, to avoid detection and for safety. Subsequent setups would be deployable and require twice as much uranium.
Call our South American friend perhaps? Tell her we've got an opportunity she can't miss / further proof of the benefits of a close friendship with us. Assuming of course that she'd even want nuclear weapons...

>>3684007
I'll leave this and the covert ops to you guys. I've got some things to take care of.
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>>3684050
>>3684007

I was hoping we could use the nuclear project to solve pur power issues forever. Make things cheaper rather then weapons. I dont think nukes would help.

I dont want touch that dimsdale conversation with a 10 foot pole ive fucked up every one i had my write in vited on. Can we move on geist untill someone good at write ups shows up?
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>>3684092
>Can we move on geist untill someone good at write ups shows up?
Anon it'll be 2020 and we will still be waiting.
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>>3684007
e>lectronic URV
Can we get the full details on this?
How would it work.
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>>3684098
I cry.
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>>3684098
Why were we meeting him again/ I thought it was going to be a bunch of pre-selected options.
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>>3684111
To some degree, so did I.
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>>3684111
We wanted to kick him out of the programming from Carpatescu to have a united america. He checked the numbers that we asked him too we just need to futher convince him.
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>>3684115
>>3684123
FYI he got one of our commercial ear buddies on, so we should either intercept the signal or be careful of what we say.

Bring up economic sanctions and tell him to do a poll, to see his ratings and peoples options of the new punitive sanctions.

Bring up that he will likely end up recruiting "bad hombres" (from the church).

Can we do a quick check of all the people present and working on his staff? Make sure they are all on the level.
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>>3684144
>>3684007

Suppport lets get this info. Also see if we can find any old speeches of his where his ideals directly conflict with these sanctions.
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Rolled 7 (1d100)

>>3684115
>>3684123
>>3684144

You note that he's wearing a Nomenklator under his ten-gallon white hat; unbenknownst to him, so are you. He's paying for an operator subscription; since he is indirectly paying you, you can at least know when he's getting data, and what data he is getting. Operators are trained to listen to subvocal clicks of the tongue when the user wants information without saying so out loud; you find it mildly amusing that he's looking you up.

It's become common courtesy to take the earsets off during formal conversation, but Dimmsdale doesn't; one of the things he receives when looking you up is that you use the device a little less than the average for executives. Of course he has no idea that you have the stealth version on.

One of your security staff and one of his check the room for bugs (in your case it's pro forma; there's a van with a jammer sitting outside, and it won't let anything through except the Nomenklators) and stand guard outside.

# Ask him to take it off, as has become common courtesy.

# Little does he know! More data for you. By all means keep it on.

"Mr. Dimmsdale..."

"I've been using Governor Dimmsdale, lately. Has a ring to it, don't it?" Interesting, that's like what Santiago said; did Carpatescu instill a love of titles in the subpotentates?

"Very well. Governor Dimmsdale, I'm worried about the taxes that Carpatescu has inflicted on our land. I mean, I live in Chicago. Come now, the only time America ever saw anything like a fifty percent GNP taxi was during colonial rule!"

"Like I told you over the phone my boy, I was the one recommending it! North America is a prosperous continent - simply put, we can afford it - specifically, it's high time the coastal elites paid their fair share! And don't forget that pretty much all of it is going to come back for the reconstruction effort!"

"What about local control though? That makes you Carpatescu's county sheriff. To put it in American terms - what about states' rights?"

"That's the beauty of it" Dimmsdale answers "I'm going to be in charge of the redistribution, so I can keep a close eye on making sure the resources go where they are needed."

Looks like he's not even bothering to hide his glee at the simple fact that this move exhautorates the old states, provinces, and federal governments of what little power they still held; since the attacks, nobody's even discussed federal elections within the old US and Canadian frameworks, although Dimmsdale is officially running for both President and Prime Ministers. Voter turnout is expected to be at around 15%; you wonder if it would be worth it to mess with that.
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>>3685300

(holy crap LB dice... yeah this one doesn't look good)


"Won't that get in the way of free market, especially when it comes to resources?"

Dimmsdale looks something up. Looks like he's about to quote, or at least paraphrase, a relevant passage from Atlas Shrugged at you.

"Ah, dear Foreman, it's a statement prompted by ignorance. Every expert has conceded long ago that a planned economy achieves the maximum of productive efficiency and that centralization leads to super-industrialization. Centralization destroys the blight of monopoly: It leads to the democratization of industry. It makes everything available to everybody. Now, for instance, at a time like this, when there's such a worry over oil, is there any sense in Texans wasting money, labor and national resources on pulling crude out of the ground, when there exists a much better grade of oil in Alaska? Oil that everybody wants, but nobody can get. Now is that good economics or sound social efficiency or democratic justice? Why shouldn't the people get it when they need it?"

# Point out that it sounds like communism to you. You'd expect this kind of talk from the Russian or the Chinese, but...

# He got the Atlas Shrugged mostly right. Answer with the Objectivist "hail Hydra", and ask him who is John Galt.

# Pretend to give in and ask how you can help - maybe you can sell him your strategy, if it's got Carpatescu's name on it.

# Drop the issue; maybe you still have some time to talk to the Internatonal Commodity Co-Op chairperson.
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>>3685301
>point out this sounds like communism to you

>Govenor Dimsdale are you really saying that you want to centralize the economy. Put it in government hands rather then the free market. I clearly incorrectly assumed you were American you should have told me you were communist from the start. I have just the logistics planner for you.


Hopefully one of you other anons has a better write in.
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What were the names of the Russian and Chinese Subponte again?
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>>3685313

Prokhor Zakharov is subpotentate for the United Russian States. He's a technocrat, and actively lobbied for your HQ to be located in Russia, but Carpatescu vetoed it.

Sheng-ji Yang is subpotentate for the United Asian States. He's originally from Hong Kong, and went to school in the UK. Personally atheist, but encourages Confucianism.
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>>3685300
>>3685301
# Little does he know! More data for you. By all means keep it on.
We can make some of the information he looks up or find to be "salted" to our liking.

# Point out that it sounds like communism to you. You'd expect this kind of talk from Prokhor Zakharov or
Sheng-ji Yang, but... Not from John Galt.

Mr. Dimmsdale, if I may? As one American to another, have you consulted or spoken to your own citizens on this, the every day American? It would behoove you speak to the citizenry's representatives and the people who will be most impacted from this.

(Dimmsdale tries to speak)

Was it not the British King that felt it was acceptable to simple tax "Americans" back then, who while still paying tribute to him, had felt largely ignored and treated as an exploitable piggy bank of subjects, and not people? That was in essence a large reason for the revolution, was it not? It was taxation, without consent or consultation, it was the exploitation of people with out a care or a say for in any decision making body. Think for a moment if you will, please Mr. Dimmsdale, if the last few US presidents thought they can tax Texas for half of all its wealth and money to fund projects elsewhere out of state in lets say D.C. or California, would any Red blooded true patriot Texan, let alone any American stand for that? Of course not, there would be calls for succession and revolution, of overthrowing the King, and every productive American Citizen up in arms and in angry fervor over it!

With all due respect, "Governor Dimmsdale", You are acting like a British King, rather than an American President or Prime Minister!
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>>3685340
My God, your fucking awful with the write ins. This is nothing short of THREATENING HIM WITH A REVOLUTION! are you trying to go for a second player death you twat!
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>>3685301
# Point out that it sounds like communism to you. You'd expect this kind of talk from the Russian or the Chinese, but...
# He got the Atlas Shrugged mostly right. Answer with the Objectivist "hail Hydra", and ask him who is John Galt.

"If you are going to reference a work of fiction that is more or less entirely about the idea that excessive taxation and regulation is a bad idea and that people are most productive when working for themselves or in their own self interest then you might want to ask why it supports your position - or rather doesn't - seeing as I read it too. The old system that taxed and taxed and taxed, controlled and controlled and controlled, centralised and centralised and centralised came crashing down under it's own weight and inertia.

How can this sort of centralisation not lead to a monopoly? If every business is under a minimum of 50% taxation then they'll have to massively increase their prices to maintain their current profitability or just to break even. Especially because all their workers are also subject to it and will need massive pay rises to ensure they can afford to actually live in North America. This means that all private sector interests will stop competing against each-other for the public's funds, as they will shrink rapidly, and instead focus heavily on government contracts and grants.

Consider the dead-weight loss to the economy as it is called by economists: a man who previously could afford a decent life will no longer have the surplus cash to afford anywhere near as luxurious a lifestyle, meaning he will cut back his spending wherever possible; this leads to a reduction in sales of many goods that people's jobs depend on; leading to a series of massive layoffs, wage reductions, hour reductions and other such issues for those workers at those companies; which in turn leads to them tightening their belt to survive; it's a vicious cycle that ruins families by destroying their nuclear, conservative structure; no longer is the father working, instead he relies on the government dime to provide his daily bread and for his children.

Fuck it, I'm going full on scare-em-with-communism and shit. I'll post part 2 in a minute but OP don't take this until all anons agree on it.
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>>3685340
>>3685310
>>3685350

Guys we're Batman taking on people with actual superpowers. We win by prep, prep, prep. Blow Rebohoths head off? Sure but when people hate him enough that they will look the other way. Make this guy dance to our tune? Sure but when he's compromised. He's not. Yet. Getting him to parrot communist propaganda is a good start to making him look bad but it's just a start. In the meantime we ARE recording everything, right?
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>>3685355
No longer do they look up to hard working men and women as respectable and admirable; why would they when their own families don't work? Instead they obsess over filling the empty hours of their days where they lack any source of entertainment the only way a poor child can: interaction with others; yet these poor families; with poor work-less fathers who feel useless and angry at the world will generally create a bad environment; leading to a increase in child negligence, crime, domestic violence, gangs, drug consumption, theft, murder, assault and so on. This is of course assuming that these children even have families to return to: just how many orphans do you think the attacks left? Just how many broken and crippled fathers or mothers who can't care for their children or themselves?

It's the same shit that broke so many families all over the world at different points in history and now you will bear the responsibility for the next social disaster. Just so a Texan can have some cheaper oil. Just so the coast states 'will pay their fair share'. You will be the man to end The American Dream if you follow this path. You will be responsible for rendering this nation into a socialist or communist nation where men labour in government owned factories for government approved wages to receive government provided goods and services, where the concept of starting your own business or wanting to own a company is folly because the taxes are so high and the difficulty of competing with government industry who have no taxation on their business is impossible.

You can't deny the bureaucratic nature of governments: costly to act and slow to react. Whereas business is a thing where the risk of bankruptcy or being fired always exists? it moves faster, it plans more carefully and it all too often see what governments can't because it is made of the little folk rather than a few sky-eye administrators making decisions without any idea of the situation on the ground level. Who knows more? The builder with years of experience that is actually visits a construction site or the architect who made the buildings design but has never been to where it is being built? Who is critical and who is unneeded? Who could do the job without the other?"


https://www.hoover.org/research/case-against-higher-tax-rates <--- Have our lads link this into his ear, specifically the bit about 'deadweight loss', which you can find just by searching for that phrase.
https://ivypanda.com/essays/relationship-between-unemployment-and-crime/ <--- A link about unemployment and crime.
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>>3685319
>>3685340
>>3685319
>>3685340
Changing one of my choices to

# Ask him to take it off, as has become common courtesy.

He needs to be with his own thoughts, and given silence to think. Even if we already control the other voice next to his head : )

>>3685350
I'm not threatening him you autist, I'm trying to remind him of our common and shared history, of the consequences, results and the lessons and values we all as Americans derive from it.

If we need to, then throw in a "I am not in any way threatening you, but simply reminding you of our common peoples foundation." Or some such.
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You know what. Fine. Threaten him with repeating the American revolution. I'll just sit back and laugh while geist kills the foreman again.
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>>3685359

Yes, everything both of you say is being recorded.

>>3685363

(Okay, I'll allow it. US politicians having memorized bits of Atlas Shrugged is not outlandish anyway)

>>3685340
>>3685355
>>3685360

Dimmsdale listens to you, eventually growing visibly impatient. "Are you trying to teach me my own home's history, boy?"

"No, Governor. Just to remind you that I may be younger than you, but I also know history. And those like us who know history - may be doomed to repeat it by those who don't."

He tries to come up with a counterargument, and you see him make the three tongue clicks that signal a Nomenklator operator (if you get the deluxe plan, which guarantees a human operator available all the time) to look up an answer for you. Looks like he's gotten a bit too used to its assistance...

The man sighs heavily, and his eyes narrow.

# Give him a way to save face - he may listen to some of your policy ideas if he can put his or Carpatescu's brand on them.

# Drive the point home. He's lost the argument, and he'll lose it just as much in the public forum, at which point, what good is he?
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>>3685385

I always felt that Atlas Shrugged could lead to a pretty decent mad max / weird west scenario, so, a while ago I wrote one. Like with Left Beyond, I may someday run a public game in it. http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/IronLegion.IronLegion.html
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>>3685385
# Give him a way to save face - he may listen to some of your policy ideas if he can put his or Carpatescu's brand on them.
Don't insult or be a prick to someone you're trying to win over. Let him have something from this.
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>>3685359
The thing with offing Rebohoth is both to mess with the prophecy timeline and because he's a prick that's in our way of doing our job.

If we do it too late we may as well not do it at all since hes almost certainly going to be one of the 3 kings that dies, or we end up helping the prophecy fulfill itself by killing one of three.
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>>3685385
>give him a way to save face
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#Give him a way to save face.
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>>3685456
If I remember correctly, Rebohoth snuffed it in the books before the Midpoint, only to be replaced by Enoch... Only for that guy to later die during the prophesied death of three kings.

Also we might have to account for some substantial wiggle room in the form of the 'Seven Thunders' mentioned in Revelations 10: 3-4... Maybe.
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>>3685884
>>3685670
>>3685401

"And since you do know history, I've wanted to meet with you to make sure the implementation of this new plan - which depends in quite a large part on the work CATS does - avoids history's mistakes."

"You don't get to give me orders, boy."

"I know, and neither do you, but nevertheless I came here to take them, Governor. Meaning, I can tell you what's on the menu from a technology standpoint, and then you can make your order."

The man's slightly porcine eyes open again - he relaxes visibly, and thinks he's figured you out: this posturing was all so you could get a kickback. That, he can understand; Carpatescu has all but invited the subpotentates to the trough, but may not have done that with agency heads. Unlike Santiago, Dimmsdale was never that much for personal integrity to begin with...

"And you'll want a tip, I suppose."

# Well, yes. It is customary, after all, is it not?

# I'm not commenting on that either way. Let's plan things out.

# You'll have to tell me what you mean by that, staying in metaphor. (Oh, and be sure to speak clearly in my ear....)
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>>3686161
>im not commenting on thay either wat lets plan things out.

Lets just try and make north and south america stable here
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#No comment.

>>3686259
I think we can keep Dim Dale happy and off our backs if our IT ventures make his region money, enough to look the other way at least.

If we're going to convince the Subpotentates that Nicky is a Wizard specializing in the Enchantment School we'll either need to get amiable relationships with each of them... or we'll have to get sneaky.

A thought: Since Nomenclature is going public, what if we included a little backdoor in the device to allow us to block hypnotism. Something we can manually flip on with a switch.

Said backdoor could be deigned a reserved channel for emergency broadcasts but secretly lets us broadcast our own blockers when convenient. Of course we will want our own people in control of the channel, not Nick's.
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Addendum: We let the Global Community 'possess the emergency broadcast statio, but we invest in means to allow for us to intercept the message and alter it, via a man in the middle attack.

It is important, however, that we don't utilize this tool too much, otherwise Carpatescu will get wise and shut it down. Timing is key here.
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>>3686259
>>3686314
>>3686324

The main issue is that by now it's customary to take the Nomenklator off when having a conversation in a secure environment - that would include dealing with Carpatescu.

Since each Nomenklator is its own cell phone (or, it can operate with an existing cell phone, to save power and only need one data plan) it can be used for 911 calls or amber alert notifications, so the only thing preventing you from shooting a burst of static into it is knowing that people will ask you why the heck you did that. What you don't know is if the static would be enough to prevent Carpatescu's mesmerism from working while letting his words go through - in order to do that, you had to develop active noise cancellation tech that would be too expensive for the general public.

You explain to Dimmsdale what can and cannot be done when it comes to electronic payments, and he tells you that he's seen the Burroughs MCP system in action in Carpatescu's fancy office.

# Let's do him one better, made in the USA (we may or may not already have one), then if you want you can make a gift of it to him (after we backdoor it of course).

# Don't mention that you have a better system yet.

In general, it looks like Dimmsdale is fully on board with Carpatescu's plan, partly because of thought process hijacking, and partly because Dimmsdale has quickly worked out how to personally profit from it - he has some leeway, and can work out exemptions for favored businesses.

# Wrap this up and end the month, or talk to the ICCO head.

# Let Dimmsdale blather on a bit so you can pad your blackmail playlist.
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>>3686353
>lets do him one better made in the USA! (Actually south america but he dosnt need to know that.)

>lets dimmsdale blather on a bit.
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>>3686353
>>3686567


Actually never mind end the meeting and talk to ICCO as thats important.
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Actually, I'm not proposing building in chips or hardware into the nomenclature, as that would be too conspicuous, but rather devising a means of hijacking the communication lines to either simulate the blockers.

In light of the nuclear devastation of America, UK, etc. and hedging my bets that the other Seal Judgments aren't far off, I think there would be a ready market for a system that allows the GC to coordinate warnings to the population, etc.

Naturally, the GC would be in control of this communication channel.... in name. Currently, we're still the head of the Global FCC, ergo we have control of the infrastructure for broadcasting. We can install some back doors, let the channel run its designated purpose and then, when the timing is right, use the channel to hijack the Nomenklator.

My crazy ramblings are more the groundwork for a plan than one that is fully developed. The point is, we're in control of the TelCom infrastructure; we're the ones laying down the wires.

---

#Don't mention the better AI

# Talk to the ICCO
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>>3686572
>>3686738

You thank Dimmsdale for his time, and watch him leave - he seems reassured, although not very much. You got a bit of blackmail material and, most importantly, a plausible reason why the subpotentates are going to go with Carpatescu's plan even after the hypnosis has worn off - if it even has, that is. Santiago seems to have at least partially broken through that thanks to her dedication to mental discipline and your help.

On the way back, between the cab ride and the airport, you have a brief texting session with the protected number - you've traced it, of course, but the people on the other hand were clever enough to make it loop back to the Chicago phone exchange; you suspect they're using a long range analog radio connected to a cell phone somewhere in a laundromat, given the noise - associated with the International Commodity Co-Op.

Your interlocutor must be a little bit of a Japanimation fan, or has a nerdy sense of humor, because they end up answering to "Ikko" for a moniker. Works for you.

Ikko offers to buy your current inventory of emergency supplies; between actual money, fleet contacts (mostly in the airline industry, oddly enough) and in-kind exchange of work, it comes out to approximately 1BN/unit.

Ikko notes that the ICCO is having difficulties buying on the open market due to some of its members having been associated with separatist militias in the US, but adds that they are a nondenominational, pacifist organization, and are only interested in food, water filtering, and power generation systems, not weapons. They may be interested in "something like CellSol pylons" that they can deploy on their own, and would even be willing to rent factory equipment.

# Great deal, let's talk!

# Bit too good of a deal - suspicious.

# I need to know who I am dealing with.
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>>3686814

Your Nomenklator operator for the day reminds you that the ICCO is a Christian Remnant organization; they figure that when the cashless system / mark of the beast is in place, they will need a parallel economy to survive for three years, and are hard at work building one. Their modus operandi seems to be to buy supplies and plant obligations now, and consume them later.

They have been successful in recruiting logistics experts, although they don't have an AI, as far as you know.
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>>3686814
# Bit too good of a deal - suspicious.

They keep jacking up the darn prices.
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#I need to know who I'm dealing with.

Christian Remnant are problematic, but there could be some useful contacts to have, nonetheless.
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>>3686915
So long as its not us directly meeting them. Might be good to have Andrews on this, we can both make cash, and hes our cover. We sell some, and Andrews sells some. We both make bank!
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>>3686893

They are, as far as you can tell, responsible for the price rise before the attacks. The new price rise has been due to general fear after the attacks, and wish to buy canned goods which presumably were not touched by plutonium dust.


>>3686915
>>3686923

Ikko gladly admits that she's a Christian (interestingly, you glean that she's a she from her grammar) and exhorts you to look into converting, and even references the pharaoh's dreams and Joseph interpreting them. "Other than that we work with house churches all over the world. We can do barter by dead drop, and as for us delivering on any work orders we trade, all I can say before we've worked together is that we are bound by the tenets of our faith to keep our deals."

You also glean that this person dropped out of college after the Event, but went to a private university in California on the sort of full-ride scholarship that Aki ended up losing due to personality conflicts.

# Get these two to talk.

# Keep them well away from each other!

Ikko is very willing to work out a small deal, so that you can verify her earnestness. After you hash out the details, her proposal is, to all practical purposes, 6 units of rations for 3 fleet assets, mainly long term contracts with various regional airlines to move equipment and personnel on little to no notice.

# That's an excellent deal, take it.

# Nope, still suspicious.

# At this stage, she needs you more than you need her, she can probably give you better terms.
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>>3687001

# Keep them well away from each other!

We don't need to cause the autistic singularity yet.
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>>3687001
>keep them well away from eachother.

Honestly we dont need money or fleet assets rn how about we just make a deal to assist eachother in speading supplies to any area affected by disaster.

What do others think?
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>>3687001
# Keep them well away from each other!
But let aki hear the recorded conversation
# That's an excellent deal, still suspicious.
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#Keep them well away from each other... for now

>>3687020
That could work.
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>>3687020
>>3687032
>>3687057

You figure that the risk of getting Aki poached by "Ikko" is excessive.

While the terms are excellent, you remain suspicious, and counter that you'd prefer to just agree to mutual assistance in case of an emergency.

"You mean the Rapture and the Antichrist and the coming apocalypse isn't enough of an emergency for you? I thought that went without saying! We've seen your people help out at the hospital. Hold on, my fiancee's calling."

You give it a few minutes; it's not like a hundred and fifty little things aren't vying for your attention. Oh, good: Moira's worked out a way to quickly repaint the IFVs, and move external components such as antennas and spare tires so that they look less distinctive. Even putting some corrugated sheets to hide the top half of the wheels is sufficient for a lot of people to mislabel the vehicles.

The tone of the next message is markedly different. "Problem is: You know that you can trust us, but we don't know if we can trust you. If that deal is too big, we can do" and she quotes you, effectively, 4 units of rations for 2 fleet assets, on the same terms.

# Sure, we can do that, and see if they deliver.

# So, her fiancee is actually in charge?

# Waste of time. Hang up.
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#So, her fiancee is actually in charge?
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>>3687372
# So, her fiancee is actually in charge?
If your busy you can try calling me again later.
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Rolled 75 (1d100)

>>3687512
>>3687418

The reply that comes in is a little odd. "Oh, well, you know how it is. It's important that men be in charge, or at least that they think they are, otherwise nothing gets done!"

You try to hash out the details about a possible trade, and notice that "Ikko" sounds, or rather reads, noticeably more chirpy. Does someone else have Carpatescu's unnatural power of mesmerism, except with the dial set to valley girl?

In the meantime, it seems that the ICCO is interested in buying supplies and selling fleet assets, at various rates; as far as you can tell, they want to ensure that the Christian Remnant doesn't have to suffer hunger or cold when the various supernatural disasters strike, and when they become unable to operate in the open market.

"I mean, you guys are going to deploy the cashless system within a year, right?"
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>>3687854

To your surprise, when you mention that if you're busy she can call you again, she does just that - call, that is.

Apparently Ikko is a young woman, you'd guess mid twenties, with no detectable accent. Your operator, who happens to be from Louisiana, tells you that the reason why you can't pick up an accent is that she sounds a fair amount like you, so she's likely from the northern Midwest.

"... so yeah, if we're doing this, great! Oh, right! Thank you, sweetie. Buck brought me cookies, he's just that guy, you know? Anyway, yeah, how's this sound - we're going to get kicked off the internet eventually. What's it going to cost to get kicked back on?"

# We've designed the internet to treat censorship as damage and route around it; as long as you pay your data bill I don't care if you are fanatics, or terrorists, or anything else, and neither will the infrastructure. We couldn't kick you off the net if we wanted to.

# Assuming that what you say about the apocalypse is true, we will accept payment in kind, if and when it comes up. Supplies, generators...

# You say you have a lot of connections with airline industries - great, we'll take those.

# If Carpatescu commands it, you'll go offline, them's the breaks.

# Are you offering a bribe?

# Who's Buck?
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>>3687879
>assuming what you say about the apocalypse is true, we will accept payemnt in kind, if and when it comes up. Supplies, generators...
If you have an in on the eden fertalizer we will give you free internet for the next 5 years. As if your right and we need it, it wont matter after that anyways.
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>>3687879
# Assuming that what you say about the apocalypse is true, we will accept payment in kind, if and when it comes up. Supplies, generators...
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# Assuming that what you say about the apocalypse is true, we will accept payment in kind, if and when it comes up. Supplies, generators... uranium samples if you have any.

Speaking of which, what is the good doctor doing these days? Considering how WWIII went, I'm sure he'll have plenty of opportunities to study the nuclear enigma.

>>3688117
Why do we want the Eden Fertilizer?
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>>3688406
I'm assuming studying it and its effects.
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>>3688426
>>3688406
That and mass production of food. We hypothesized erlier that the mass famine was due to Israel being blocked from exporting the eden fertalizer.
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>>3688499
What?

I thought it was because the fertilizer ate up all the minerals and stuff in soil so you get left with barren soil that can't grow stuff anymore, so after a few years of using the eden fertilizer it causes mass famine because nothing new will grow with or without the fertilizer.
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>>3688512
That is a unconfirmed thing we heard about at the begginning by people who werent weren't christian remnant. Soo it may happen that way honestly not sure.
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>>3687879
> # You say you have a lot of connections with airline industries - great, we'll take those.

> # Who's Buck?

Clearly this is sketchy and we need to reel them in.
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>>3688639
Well the guy was an Israeli scientist or something, and w could have talked to him the last time we were in the neighborhood.
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I wonder if the movie "The Matrix" will still be made.

It should start Foreman as "The Architect".
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(Sorry for the delay. We are working on a biomimetic robot fish. It's interesting, and it's not classified so I can post screenshots if anyone cares, but it's not related to the quest)

>>3688406
>>3688245

"If you believe that, you really should convert."

You say that you will consider it if Ikko proves trustworthy.

"Right then. So here's the revised deal. You keep us online - no censorship and no bandwidth throttling - when censorship offically begins, and we will pay for it with enough supplies to feed your people. We will even throw in transport, as we can. You will get MREs and water or water filters, but we can't spare any power generation capability."

# That's an excellent deal. In case of famine, if Ikko is trustworthy, that lets you treat supplies as a trade good.

# No thanks - I have no way to see that you can deliver.

In the meantime, she asks you if you are willing to trade supplies for fleet assets, as a way to establish a basis of trust.

# Sure, let's. The exchange is 2 supplies for 1 fleet asset, up to 6/3.

# No thanks - I could not trust your drivers and pilots.

You handle the negotiation

# swiftly, as a show of good faith.

# slowly, because of course we'tracking where Ikko is -actually- calling from.

You discuss the Eden fertiizer, and Ikko tells you that she has no idea; Chaim Rosenzweig is a lapsed Jew, not a Christian, and as far as she knows everyone can just make the stuff by now. "I know that some factories have had problems with replicating the formula, but that's just glitches, right?"

You tell Ikko that as far as you know, everyone is still dependent on the main production facility for some chemicals used to make the stuff: that's not a secret, after all.

"I think you will have an easier time talking to Dr. Rosenzweig than me."
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>>3695859
>thats an excellent deal
>sure lets exchange the 2 for 1 then in good faith
>swiftly


Please do send screenshots sounds awesome
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>>3695909
This. Also yet further proof we need to start Eden chemical stockpiles.
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>>3695909
>>3695917

You hang up on Ikko; as per your orders, your people did not track her location. She is using a fairly clever system: two cell phones have been connected to each other using a long range packet radio, and she's logging into one and texting you from the other. For now, you figure that it's worth it to show trust, although you have sufficient electrical engineers to use old-timey radiolocator techniques to get around it.

You do know that Chaim Roszenweig is in Tel Aviv, if you want to go talk to him directly or send an agent.

(Will do on the pictures!)

Your tracking teams give you a brief report: Rebohoth is planning to all but sack the portion of Egypt that is still under his jurisdiction, which means that Klaue has been selling weapons to the local so that they can defend themselves. This in turn has caused the situation in South Africa to defuse a little bit. If you want to get involved in a land war in Africa, it's not a bad time for it.

Tsion has been continuing his preaching; notably, he rented a soccer stadium to preach in, and challenged Carpatescu's deputy, Leonardo Fortunato, to a debate. Mr. Fortunato has been basically a nonentity, given Carpatescu's incredible stamina; he's basically the guy that the boss sends out to inaugurate things within the Carpathian States. The Italian is clearly infatuated with the Potentate, who, as far as anyone can tell except some Remnant, is straight.

New thread before this one falls off the map: >>3696022
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>>3695917
Yeah next turn lets visit rosenzweig amd see if we can just bulk buy the stuff. Porbs will be cheaper then buying the food.
>>3696023
Do we get our scout info on the secret police



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