[I resent the very notion that you'd even insinuate that I'd fight akin to a savage!
It is only sporting that we shan't be aiming for any commanders, officers or holders of rank specifically, neither are we such base men that we'd chase down a foeman who seeks to run from the battlefield.
I also think it would be highly rude of me to prevent charitable individuals who treat the wounded or recover a seaman adrift in the sea, so as long as your skiffs and healers fly the flag of truce, they shall be allowed to pickup such men from the battlefield.]

Bit taken aback the emissary responds to you

[It is good to see you do credit to your chivalric code.]
[Well, us men of noble birth have to at least keep certain appearances up shan't we?]
You reply to him in the most disgustingly smug manner
[It is shame that we cannot come to terms of peace, but we of the City of Tyrosh shall fight to avoid loss of life. Any such individuals who are wounded or adrift shall receive fair treatment as prisoners of war and your House has the full right to purchase them back.]
[And those whom cannot pay shall be sold, yes]
[It is tradition]
[For you I suppose]
[Far as we are concerned, you may return to your fleet wherever it may be, and begin this war in earnest. We aren't such ignoble men that we'd strike down those who are on a diplomatic mission, even if they are our foes.]
[Why thank you, but that won't be necessary.]
[Pardon?]
[Well, you lined up your ships so nicely and it's such a good weather that I don't really see any reason to postpone this further, so I think I'm going to begin my attack right now. That is if it's alright with you.]
[Pardon?]
[Did I say it wrong? Apologies, this is not my native tongue. Do you speak common?]
"Yes, I do."
"I said that if it's alright with you, I'd like to begin my attack right now."
"Pardon?"
[Me. fight. fleet. ] You point at the hundreds of ships in the distance [ go. tell. please. ]
He looks at you dumbstruck before restoring his composure
[Well, it was a pleasure to talking with you Mad Lord of Port Maw. As you wish, I will report this to the Grand Admiral]
[Wait]
You grab a bottle of liquor you had prepared early on and tossed it to the emissary
"Wouldn't want you to die sober."
The men laugh as the emissary departs.
"Alright lads, start loading up the cannons. I want explosive rounds on all guns. Rickar, you remember the thing I taught you?"
"I do."
"Good, get to it. On my signal, you hit the lever as practiced."
"Gods above, we're really doing this."
"ALRIGHT LADS! WORK STEADY AND WITH CLEAR HEAD! FOLLOW YOUR OFFICERS AND WE WILL GET THROUGH THIS!"
Thunder of drums begins to fill the air as the massive wall of ships begins to sail towards you

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"We're ready to fire on your orders."
"Good, Rickar, hit the sirens. Time to steal a page from Adolf's playbook."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhWUUblpDZA

A Steam powered Air Raid siren fills the skies with it's wailing, making both soldier and civilian alike aware of your coming.

"Alright, TOP DECK, FIRE."

>Give me 18d6

Rolled 2, 5, 5, 5, 6, 3, 6, 6, 1, 2, 1, 3, 3, 3, 2, 6, 3, 2 = 64 (18d6)

>>3520301
it begins...

>>3520301
dice+18d6

Rolled 1, 4, 1, 4, 6, 6, 6, 6, 4, 5, 6, 6, 1, 3, 3, 2, 3, 4 = 71 (18d6)

>>3520307
derp

Rolled 6, 1, 1, 5, 6, 4, 4, 3, 2, 6, 4, 1, 4, 1, 3, 4, 1, 6 = 62 (18d6)

>>3520301

>>3520301

Rolled 5, 2, 5, 2, 1, 5, 5, 5, 3, 4, 6, 6, 3, 1, 2, 2, 4, 3 = 64 (18d6)

>>3520301
>18d6

Rolled 2, 4, 2, 2, 5, 3, 6, 6, 1, 6, 6, 5, 1, 4, 1, 1, 6, 4 = 65 (18d6)

>>3520301
Such excite

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11 hits with explosive shells.
Your cannons have 20 square range

Do you wish to move this turn?
>Hold position
>North flank
>South flank
>Pull back

>>3520319
>>Hold position

>>3520319
>hold position
How far is their range?

>>3520321
>>3520325
Actually should be just go north flank and swim circles around them?

>>3520319
is a flank anchored by the port?


Or are we fighting in the open?
the north flank just gets cut off by the map edge.

>>3520319
I'm leaning towards
>Hold position

What is their range QM?

>>3520319
we should go for a wide circle around their formation, always staying on a flank if possible.

>>3520327
orbiting the fleet is best
exploit our range and our speed and do not let them encircle and swarm us.

>>3520327
Im worry moving might make us less accurate.

>>3520319
>Hold position
Prepare to fire second volley

>>3520332
You don't know

4 Hold positions win.
One moment

>>3520342
In that case let's keep up the current range in gonna change vote from
>>3520325
To north flank starting to do
>>3520333

Rolled 3 (1d10)

I hope they're shitting themselves.

Rolled 232 (1d272)

Alright then, since you are holding position give me 2x 18d6

Last thread qm stated the range of a cannon was 1600-1800 yards and that the optimal range of their ballista was 500 and that it would realistically be less on moving sea under combat.

Therefore we can assume they have at best a third of our range, possibly less. Lets say a fourth. If we have a range of 20 squares that would put their range at about 5 squares. Maybe a bit more.

Rolled 2, 2, 6, 6, 2, 5, 3, 6, 5, 3, 3, 4, 3, 1, 5, 2, 6, 4 = 68 (18d6)

>>3520366

Rolled 3, 4, 3, 5, 2, 1, 4, 6, 5, 6, 4, 1, 2, 6, 6, 6, 6, 2 = 72 (18d6)

>>3520366

Rolled 5, 5, 2, 5, 6, 1, 5, 6, 5, 2, 6, 5, 5, 1, 5, 5, 2, 2 = 73 (18d6)

>>3520332
Last thread he said
>Range of a cannon is approximately 1600-1800 yards on five degrees of elevation
>The Range of a ballista on land is approximately 500 yards at best. On sea, much less. Everything else has lower range than that
so if 20 squares is 1700 yards, each square is about 85 yards. Then a ballista should only be able to shoot max around 5 squares, wind none withstanding.

>>3520366

Rolled 4, 1, 2, 4, 1, 6, 1, 4, 1, 3, 3, 1, 6, 6, 1, 3, 6, 6 = 59 (18d6)

>>3520366
dice, dice, dice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIsiQiGH5Sw

>>3520367

This is of course assuming that we were completely honest when explaining to our brother that we had calculated everything and we were sure we could win, and thst we weren't blowing smike.

>>3520368
12 hits
>>3520369
12 hits

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Shots been fired, do you want to move?

>Hold position
>North Flank
>South Flank
>Pull back

Rolled 1, 5, 2, 3, 1, 2, 8 = 22 (7d10)

>>3520392
Hmmm they are still 15 away
>North flank let's start circleing.
>>3520358
They have to be

>>3520392

South flank and pull back.

IE rather than just move perpendicular to their line, move south and away from them a bit.

>>3520392
>Hold position
another volley

>>3520392
>>North west Flank

Y'know historically speaking an army, or navy in this case I suppose, an only sustain a relatively small percentage of their number as casualties before they break and run.

Fight to the last man sounda great, but in reality unless you're trapped that doesn't really happen all thst often.

I wonder how many more ships we gotta pulp before they break and run.

btw in terms of your movement, Wind is facing south and you can move 11 tiles north, 12 tiles east and west and 13 to south

Rolled 128 (1d273)

>>3520414
If they roll under their casualty count, then they keep fighting.
If they don't, they're exceptionally brave, foolish or stubborn.

Speaking of which...

Quick question, is the wreckage of the destroyed ships impeeding the progress of the others?

Large amounts of flotsam they have to go around or risk hitting something substantial?

>>3520392
South flank and pull back.

>>3520423
switching from
>>3520408

>>3520420
Yes it is.
They cannot move through the destroyed ships, but neither can you shoot through them.

>South flank

they will probably call it quits after that

>>3520403
changing from
to
>South Flank
to 43,D

Gonna go with south flank since it's got 3 votes

>>3520443
engaging engine

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No proper line of sight, making another move south.

>>3520456
south west preferably

>>3520456

South and away. The away is important.

Give me another 2x 18d6

Rolled 1, 2, 6, 4, 4, 1, 1, 1, 6, 4, 1, 6, 5, 5, 6, 6, 2, 1 = 62 (18d6)

>>3520465
cmon dice gods

Rolled 5, 2, 1, 4, 2, 1, 2, 4, 5, 4, 1, 3, 6, 3, 6, 1, 4, 5 = 59 (18d6)

>>3520465
rolly polly

Rolled 2, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 3, 2, 3, 2, 6, 3, 5, 2, 3, 1, 4 = 63 (18d6)

>>3520465

Rolled 1, 6, 2, 4, 5, 2, 4, 1, 6, 5, 1, 2, 4, 4, 6, 1, 1, 5 = 60 (18d6)

>>3520465

>>3520456
heavy drift winds from west

>>3520465
>2x 18d6
By the seven i think we have thoroughly outdakkaed the essosi

>>3520466
10 hits
>>3520467
11 hits

>>3520476
What did you think it meant when the option to build this thing was
>Rule the waves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NXFCDgyanA

Rolled 2, 1, 1, 6 = 10 (4d10)

Rolled 8 (1d10)

lot of these guys seem pretty well disciplined

>>3520496

Fear of draconian discipline maybe.

Rolled 239 (1d273)

If he rolls above 201, then he's smart enough to retreat

>>3520496
>>3520499
They are were the Valyrian Naval fortress to control the step-stones.

Tyrosh probably is the one most involved in having a top notch navy by tradition.

Welp, I guess he sounds the retreat.
Congratulations. You just fucked the Tyroshi standing Warfleet.

>>3520501
looks like someone knows the battle is lost

>>3520501
and it seems rather smart flag officers able to adapt to a no win situation.

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>>3520504

>>3520501
Varys is gonna flip.

>>3520504

Welp that was fast.

Hey, Bravos hates all the slaver cities since they're slaves that successfully rebelled and set up their own state right? Maybe we should try to get then involved in or at least backing our crusade. Roll over tyrosh and then onto the next city of slaver scum backed by the iron bank and a support fleet of bravosii.

>>3520504
right, now we get to camp at the entrance of the port for a week or two until they are willing to just throw progressively more ludicrous bribes for us to go away with all the westerosi slaves we can ship away.

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Total tally from the way I see it is 72 ships have a huge fucking hole in them and are either sinking or drifting because they are at the moment unusable.

Some of them are recoverable, but all of them require immediate attention or they will be lost to the sea.

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>tyrosh admirality right now.

>>3520512

They'll probably try to sortie at least once more. The admiral in charge right now will get called a coward and the rulers of the city will send out his replacement.

>>3520518
Well, you can always just start sinking ships in the port. You can always enforce the blockade that way.

I mean, you can't use the harbor if all the spots on the harbor have an unusable ship on it.

Anyway, that's it for today, hope you had fun.

>>3520510
nah. this is our crussade. they have the money to do their own - see the results with pentos.
This allows us to get westerosi slaves as a hazardous merchandise that will make slavers rather disinclined to go for them especially as they are relatively few compared to essosi ones.

>>3520513
damn. we do not have the capacity to get that much captives.

we could try to chase and press gang some retreating ones into saving their fellow sailors to be ransomed by us later but that is imho to much of a hassle.

>>3520518
...
Only a fool or a scapegoat would take the command of such a operation.

They have nothing prepared and would become a shooting gallery in a bottleneck if they are in port.

And in port is the only sane place to go as we demonstrated greater speed so they know we can run them down if we wanted to.

>>3520528
Just horn at them with our siren to clear out. Gave them a good bloody nose already.

i'd love to see rickar's face right now

>>3520534

You underestimate the stupidity of dumbass prideful aristocrats who feel the need to save face. There are so many historical examples of leaders doing stupid shit, even against advisement, I would not be at all suprised if the big wigs in tyrosh pulled a stupid.

>>3520539
Funny part is. Tyroshi nobles wear colourful big wigs and dye their hair. So your statement is quite true.

>>3520539
thing is the entire officer core and navy would be of the same opinion as the admiral.
They probably saw that if the order to retreat was not given they would be eventually bombed or routed.

>>3520539
They lost 1/3 of their ships in under half an hour. Even if there was someone retarded enough to order it, no captain will do it. Its game over.

>>3520542

Some crazy bastard desperate for fame and glory might try something. Though in that case an outright attack is less likely then something sneaky in the night.

Row on up with some pitch and dragon fire in a boat that's had all the reflective bits soot blackened and then try to fire us maybe.

>>3520554
They have nothing capable of damaging us, plus the act itself would mean a retaliation. They have already lost a sizeable amount of capital, now the option is either to pay a large sum or risk losing *a lot* more capital. They are already paying off dothraki and those fuckers cant blockade their ports.

>>3520542
1/4 really

>>3520571
Tyroshi don't pay much to the Dothraki to be fair, but they do pay for their Essosi colonies to be left alone.

Ultimately, the Dothraki don't know much of Lys or Tyrosh, but they do occasionally show up in contested lands.

>>3520588
My bad, but as >>3520587 already said, still pay tribute to some extent. The threat of getting cut off from supply for a city of such size will mean a slow and agonizing death. Plus, with all the time we spend blockading they spend not trading, further increasing the losses already incurred by the wrecked ships.

They wont do another assault.

>>3520588
Tyrosh has colonies in the contested lands which is where majority of their natural resources and food are produced.

>>3520532
Thanks for running QM, out of curiosity what house did our sister marry into? Where would they be situated?

https://youtu.be/jL1DkrYL70s
Here's to put into perspective the sort of shit they might have been experiencing at sea.

>>3520620
House Ashford is situated at Ashford in Reach.

>>3520662
I’d really like to see Varys face when he hears of this :P

Holy shit this was golden stuff to return to, nothing like British naval supremacy to make your day.


>>3519931
>Considering our limiting factor is manpower
True but so is production capacity for equipment / housing any troops we train.

>We have the Outriders as a QRF forces.
I want to develop a similar unit focused around carbine usage rather than pistols to work as a mix of scouts and harassment.

>We have the Guard as a garrison unit for the castle.
True.

>We need a unit of Shock Troops in full plate and with shotguns/grenade launchers to handle any urban close quarters combat.
Honestly I kinda just want to make a unit of Roman Legionaries but instead of javelins to soften the enemy, they either use a volley of pistols or grenades.

>We need a unit of Engineers/Cannoneers to handle siege weapons on the move (cannons and maybe mortars).
Agreed, not to mention they enable us to perform combat constructions like battering rams, field fortifications beyond a certain complexity and so on.

>We need a unit or two of musketmen to manage the wagon forts and other non-specific duties.
At a minimum, I agree. Although we might also consider making them mounted just for movement purposes.

>The wagon fort gives us a good force multiplier and specializing as much as possible makes our men worth more in their given task.
True but the issue with specialisation is if one of our units gets too savaged in combat, we suddenly lack anything for that role.

>>3519963
We could easily make a flame-projector system to mount onto a ship or a large cart.

>>3520704
Yeah we could do all of that OR, now hear me out now, we invent plastic and a rudimental injection molding machine then introduce the world to Warhammer!

>>3520714
What if we write down the rules to the ASOIAF RPG and then publish and sell that to the rulers of Westeros?

>>3520719
And hand those in power a gamebook which mentions characters, events and powers yet to occur at the current time? Or should we adapt the lore to fit the current time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBRO-P5X1k4

This seems like an accurate metaphor for our ship.

>>3520704
our people will have the coin for horses, so we could have them all mounted if only as mounted infantry if we do not get combat trained mounts.
This will make all our army a defensive second wave QRF, and highly mobile on the offensive, as anyone not mounted on carts will be on horse, so no marching.

Also, for musketeers, getting all our infantry with grenades is a good idea, as it makes for a great defensive option to break a charge should they not be in a wagon fort.

Just one or two grenades per man and that makes them nigh invulnerable to a charge, if they are ready - and when on the move the doctrine should have either the mounted combatants and a dedicated grenadiers on over-watch to both harass and counter-charge with a grenade throw allowing the wagons time to form up in a fort, and get the light artillery pieces on them mounted for fire and loaded.

>>3520938
>our people will have the coin for horses, so we could have them all mounted if only as mounted infantry if we do not get combat trained mounts.
We honestly could easily set up the facilities to produce proper war horses. Problem is that training our troops to fight on horseback takes time / resources, making them more expensive. Which means we're arguably better off reserving them for those forces that'd actually make use of them.

>Also, for musketeers, getting all our infantry with grenades is a good idea, as it makes for a great defensive option to break a charge should they not be in a wagon fort.
I don't know about all the troops, given the nature of grenades as fairly unstable and more importantly, the major advantage of giving something like that to the Heavy melee infantry was that it would disrupt any organised defence against them, allowing them to easily clear the field of anything: knights; wights; dothraki; unsullied.

I mean it could work but the issue becomes the fact that grenades aren't light or small things, carrying one of them severely limits how much of anything else a soldier can carry and given we want our men working in at least a breastplate (since they might actually need to fight against people in armour in a melee) weight is a fair concern.

>Just one or two grenades per man and that makes them nigh invulnerable to a charge, if they are ready - and when on the move the doctrine should have either the mounted combatants and a dedicated grenadiers on over-watch to both harass and counter-charge with a grenade throw allowing the wagons time to form up in a fort, and get the light artillery pieces on them mounted for fire and loaded.
Maybe. Hell we'll see what we can do.

What should we do about Tyrosh mainland colonies? If they have Westerosi slaves should we give them a stern talking to about sending them back to kings landing or should we try to collect them ourselves/have jorah do it.

>>3521910
Diplomacy I presume.

If they make Westerosi slaves contraband and sign an official pledge to return them then all that then is needed is to make them want to honor that agreement, even if it takes months or years to organise.

Whether they honor this accord or not is ultimately irrelevant, it's a win for us either way in the end.

>Remember this thread from a month ago
>Remember hearing that we would be mostly mercenaries with a powerful band of musketeers and a smallish but effective ship

>We now have a ship of the line

Holy shit this is awesome but how the hell did we manufacture these many cannons and implement this in our lifetime?

Are we now truly mass producing gunpowder?

HOW WE DO THIS AND WHY IS IT SO AWESOME

>>3522061
The power of White Harbour and bankrupting ourselves.

So real quick the poor bastards in red are all sunk right, and the ones colored in negative all sustained damage... which means we sunk 73 ships and injured another 16. They came in with (now this is a rough estimate) 272 ships, that still leaves them with a majority of 183 ships they can throw at us.

Did we really scare them so badly that they're sounding a retreat of 183 ships? They still have a CHANCE. Granted it's a slim chance but still!

Man had I know they would have sounded the retreat I would've voted for massacre. Oh well. Time to trawl the waters for survivors ro ransom I guess. Or better yet board and ransom the stragglers.

>>3522120
Negative colors are ones that broke ranks and began to flee.
Needless to say, those ones will be subject to disciplinary actions after the they retreat.

These guys were actually fairly well disciplined it considering how well they stood ther ground under bombardment of explosive shells.

>>3522120
I dont think you get how warfare works. Unless its literally a do or die situation, you retreat instead of fight to the last man. And even then, if the only one to die would be the commanders the sodiers would fuck off sooner.

The fact that we sunk 1/4 of their home fleet in a couple hours without them even getting a shot off shows pretty well what the results of the battle would be. Its far cheaper for them to just pay us off instead.

As to survivors, why bother? I mean, their own ships are already right there and we have no real means to either salvage or rescue. And on top of it, the gold we would get from either selling the hulls or ransoming is a pittance compared to the spoils we will get from their formal surrender.

>>3522136
I mean you SAY that, but just fucking watch, we get to Tyrosh and the bounty is half what we projected cause of a Dothraki raid or some shit. We're gonna have to raid ANOTHER city or worse, put wheels on this fucking thing and turn into a LAND Pirate.

Do you want to put wheels on our ship? Do you want to be a walking contradiction? No? Then we had best bleed those fuckers dry for every copper fucking penny their tight fisted slaving granted them.

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>>3522153

>>3522153
Well then you're best bet is jist wrecking the docks and completely crippling them. That way you can really bleed them out for everything they're worth when they surrender. Compared to the city itself these leftover ships are just chump change.

>>3522153
We can just say, not enough and continue to blockade them untill we get enough to satisfy our gold lust.

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The Massive castle ship that served as the command ship struck its colors and like a wave, other ships began to do so as well, until all were flying white flags.

"Ease up on the siren for a bit!"

As the siren's infernal moan quieted down, you could begin to hear it. Horns, possibly a hundred or more, all sounding the retreat.
Not only did the Siren serve as a psychological weapon but it was also hindering enemy communications.

"CEASE FIRE! THE BATTLE IS OURS!"

You kept patrol back and forth as the wounded and drowning were being rescued from the ships that were in the process of sinking.

They were working hard to try and save the vessels they could, but for most vessels it was too late.
Once an explosive shell hit the prow and waterline reached the point where the explosive round blew a hole in, you had little time before the vessel would begin to sink beneath the waves.
The vessels that survived were ones where the shell had hit a bit high and bitten a gnarly chunk off the vessel, sending splinters flying about.

You watch through your looking glass as some of the rescue crew are throwing javelins into the sea to fend off the sharks lured by the men covered in splinters.

"Is it over? Did we really win against a Free City, just like that?"
You collapse your looking glass and stow it away
"We shall see. The Battle is won, but the War continues if they so decide. Luckily it would seem I had grossly overestimated the opposition we would face."

A small, albeit familiar begins approaching under the flag of truce
"Speak of the devil, I suppose we will find out how they stand."

[ Noble Captain Norys Orelar! It is well to see you emerged from the battle unscathed! ]
He gives you a clearly forced smile
[ As it is with you, Noble Lord Tallon of Port Maw. The Grand Admiral would like a word with you in private aboard his ship if you would deign to accept. ]

> [ I will of course, accept. ] ( Go aboard the emissary's vessel and leave Rickar in charge. )
> [ If he wishes for a meeting, let him sail out himself. ]
> [ Only if he sails his magnificent ship to where my brother can sink it should you decide to murder me under banner of truce. ]
> [ We shall meet halfway on sea aboard skiffs. ]
> Write in

>>3522189
Oh, also, because you did persuade your brother and the fleet to go on this venture and they didn't like murder you in your sleep or anything, I'm raising your persuasion to 4

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>>3522189
> [ I will of course, accept. ] ( Go aboard the emissary's vessel and leave Rickar in charge. )
chad mode

>>3522189
> [ If he wishes for a meeting, let him sail out himself. ]
Given the outcome it is clear who should come to whom

>>3522189
>> [ We shall meet halfway on sea aboard skiffs. ]

>>3522189
> [ We shall meet halfway on sea aboard skiffs. ]
Not that he would murder us when we set foot on his ship but there is the possibility of a hostage situation. I would rather we meet as equals on the sea. Besides, Im sure he has more than a few fancy skiffs around.

>>3522189
> [ If he wishes for a meeting, let him sail out himself. ]

>>3522189
> [ If he wishes for a meeting, let him sail out himself. ]

>>3522189
>we shall meet halfway on dea aboard skiffs.

Yeah as much as I'd like too you full Chad mode we dont have high enough combat skills to solo the whole ship and escape if they decide we are too high a threat to let live.

>>3522189
> [ If he wishes for a meeting, let him sail out himself. ]
>Word it politely, we already went out of our way to be genteel, no need to piss on the pudding this late in the game. I don't want us to be ungraceful winners. Also, speak in Common. If they want to send messengers, they should know to send someone who can understand us.

"Firstly, allow me congratulate him by your proxy on a battle most gallantly fought! The seamanship of your sailors is truly admirable, not fleeing the moment the battle began. Top marks all around regarding their behaviour, really, we're all professionals here and there is, I think, no shame in admitting the virtues of one's foes.

I do think it would rather contravene your own maritime sense of fair play if I were to accept the Grand Admiral's invitation to his vessel, however. I was under the impression that you were conceding defeat - hence the flag-waving - and that this brief intermission between our fervent exchange of ideas was to facilitate the acceptance of his surrender to yours truly. And as all gentlemen of the seas know, the defeated captain - or as it is the case here, the defeated Grand Admiral - enters the vessel of the victor to sign the end to the battle.

Or am I to understand that the good Grand Admiral believes himself the victor of our little exchange? Do please clarify the meaning behind your Grand Admiral's message, because we're about ready for another round of explosions. My ensign estimates that we have consumed twenty per cent-"

"Ten per cent, Captain Tallon."

"-Ten percent of our available munitions. Which is of course not taking into account our -other- warships staying behind. How many did Lord Jorah bring again, ensign?"

"I'll have to check again, Captain, but there were around a dozen of them all told."

"A dozen! Well, we're no Crown Fleet of Westeros, but I think it'll do for this crusade. I hope your Grand Admiral will take into account the fact that we only came in with one ship as a gesture of goodwill, instead of bringing in the rest of the squadron. But forgive me, I do babble on... you were saying, Captain Orelar?"

>>3522212
No point lying about us being mister baller who forced Tyrosh to surrender with a single ship. Jorah is just logistics.

>>3522215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yUafzOXHPE

I'm not saying that Jorah's ships will attack Tyrosh, just that we have backup and that they... can't refuse. You know. Because of the implication.

>>3522189
> [ We shall meet halfway on sea aboard skiffs. ]

>>3522189
>[ We shall meet halfway on sea aboard skiffs. ]

>>3522189
> [ If he wishes for a meeting, let him sail out himself. ]

While i would like to tour that that lovely grand flagship, it is customary for the victor to host the talks of surrender, and I am certain the most honorable Grand Admiral would love to come aboard my ship, especially as I have no the fleet to be tempted in recruiting a Grand Admiral of his impressive command skills.

>>3522189
> [ If he wishes for a meeting, let him sail out himself. ]
I sense an assassination plot

>>3522189
> [ If he wishes for a meeting, let him sail out himself. ]
>Word it politely, we already went out of our way to be genteel, no need to piss on the pudding this late in the game. I don't want us to be ungraceful winners. Also, speak in Common. If they want to send messengers, they should know to send someone who can understand us.

>>3522189
>[ If he wishes for a meeting, let him sail out himself. ]

>>3522120
So wait, we've sank 26.8% of their fleet and damaged a further 8% of what remains? When you put it like that it is impossible to imagine them risking another attack...but makes me want to strike yet again, for more blood and more silver.

>>3522189
> [ We shall meet halfway on sea aboard skiffs. ]

I don't trust him to not try some alchemist trick or something once he is on our ship. I'd rather we do this at sea where any such trick can be escaped by a little swim.

>>3522189
>> [ If he wishes for a meeting, let him sail out himself. ]
lol, we won. So get in here

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>>3522189
>> [ If he wishes for a meeting, let him sail out himself. ]
our campaign is just
may the seven bless the winning spoils
also, let's send a raven to our family

>>3522189
> [ If he wishes for a meeting, let him sail out himself. ]

Also, seeing as we're about to have a giant amount of money, we might want to see about rebuilding our residence into a properly palatial or fortified space given how strong we're about to be and how piddly our current one is.

I'd rather not let anyone we don't trust on our boat when things like wildfire exist desu.

>>3523286
ですですね

>>3523358
baka

>>3523695
ばかじゃない

sugoi chinpo oniichan

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>>3523286
Eeeh, I doubt the admiral would be packing wildfire for this kind of situation. No doubt he had expect conventional warfare, that this would be easy when we were so out-numbered, so why bother?

>>3522396
Also backing this. I don't want to give off impressions out cowardice by NOT leaving our vessel but I don't want him pulling any dirty Tyroshi tricks when he's aboard either.

>>3522189
>> [ Only if he sails his magnificent ship to where my brother can sink it should you decide to murder me under banner of truce. ]

>>3522191
>John Rambo
>>3522191


>Tell him to come to you
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>Meet halfway
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>>3524037
Yarr you pand lubbers

>>3524050
*land

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> [ If he wishes for a meeting, let him sail out himself. ]

[1/2]

[ If he wishes for a meeting, he can come and sail out to meet me himself. I should think it's only proper, seeing that I consider myself the victor of this bout ours that it is he who sails to meet under the flag of truce, not I. ]

He nods
[ As you will, I shall relay this message to him. ]

After few hours or so, the same vessel returned with a brightly dressed man with a noble bearing, meaning that he was carrying a lot of bling, had good posture and had the eyes of someone who was always looking down on people.

[ Greetings! Might I presume you to be Noble Adaros of House Rodinar? ]
[ You presume correctly! ]
He speaks whilst making a bowing motion
[ I take it you are the Lord Arthur Tallon ]
[ I am he ]
[ As you requested, I have arrived. Might I board your vessel so that we may discuss things in privacy? ]
[ Do you mind coming aboard alone? ]
[ Not at all ]
"Lower the ladder for him."

Once he came aboard, you lead him to the Captain's quarters.
"Impressive ship"
He speaks in common as he looks at your office
"Thank you, I made it myself. Care for some tea?"
"Don't mind if I do."
He says, and you pour him some of the steaming herbal broth.
"Unusual flavor"
"The blend is still a work in progress, but I've grown rather fond of it."
"So, a Shipwright. Wouldn't have guessed."
"I like to think myself as a man of culture. Oh, and if you'd like, we can discuss in Valyrian, I'm fine either way."
"Oh no, I'd rather it be in common. Whilst I don't think they'll hear me here, it's always good to be cautious."
"Politics?"
"More a force of habit. They do not need to know what is being discussed, so they don't need to understand it."
You nod in approval
"Understandable. Now, I take it this is not purely a social call."
"As much as I wish it were, but alas..."
"So what do you say? Call it quits here or we up for another round."
"If we'd go for another round, our fleet would be reinforced by over a thousand civilian ships. Even if you were somehow to be triumphant, there'd still be the city itself to resist you."

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"Yes, this would naturally be the case if I were to seek to annex your territories, but let's be honest here. All I'm asking for here is some money and some very specific slaves, which cannot be obtained by law abiding citizens anyhow. Politically speaking, I don't think it's a very popular stance to be supporting the shadier elements of the slave trade."
You take a sip of your tea as you continue
"Militarily speaking? I do not see the problem of the militia fleet insurmountable, merely inconvenient. However should you provide me such a battle and I emerge victorious, even if Tyrosh resisted to the bitter end to meet my demands and I was forced to leave empty handed, the city would be left in such a state that the I can easily recoup my losses by simply threatening to do the same to Lys or Myr."

At the last sentence his face turned into a smile.
"So it is money you are after?"
You shrug
"I seek to liberate my countrymen, but of course that doesn't mean I don't see the potential profit to be made from doing so."
He ponders for a moment whilst nursing his cup of tea, as if thinking how to put his next sentence into words.
"The Conclave and the Archon might be convinced in conceding defeat and paying you to go away, along with giving you such few Westerosi slaves that exist in this country..."
"Buuut?"
"But, I'm sure it would make things a fair bit easier if I could tell them they are getting something in return."
"Such as?"
"If you could be convinced to be co-belligerent in our struggles in the Stepstones and to strike our foreign rivals, I could make the case before them that it is more profitable to be your friend and your enemy."
"Ah, so give them a bloody nose and fleece them for coin and slaves in name of liberation as well?"
"Little more specific than that. There is a fortified Castle Island in control of Myr. From there they send reinforcements, supplies and we suspect, store the coin from for their mercenaries."
"So what sort of job are we talking about? Secure a landing site?"
"As fine a prize as it would be, all you need to do is to sink all the ships docked there and then strike at Myr directly, blockading them, rest will be handled by our generals."

>"Get me some papers incriminating the Myrish for possession of Westerosi slaves and you got yourself a deal."
>"I think I can get a better deal if I just go and sink all your ships in port."
>Write-in

>>3524072
* more profitable to be your friend than your enemy."

>>3524072
>"I think I can get a better deal if I just go and sink all your ships in port."
> and we can get a even better deal than that by shelling the city

>>3524072
>"Get me some papers incriminating the Myrish for possession of Westerosi slaves and you got yourself a deal."
As long as we have a decent casus belli and can play off the fort siege as necessary, why not? I mean, we came here to make money after all. Though I would ask what ships are docked there. If its Myrish military ships then no bother. If its Westerosi or third parties that may be more of a problem.

>>3524072
>"We have already declared open war upon your city, it'd be in poor taste if I was swayed away from my words by underhand politics. I must apologise but my intentions towards your port have not changed."

>>3524072
>"I think I can get a better deal if I just go and sink all your ships in port."

We've made sure all our crew fervently despise the Tyroshi, we've stated our intentions to wage war against the Tyroshi to every person of note in Westeros, and we've justified such an endeavour based on moral principle.

Hiring ourselves out to Tyrosh now will not look good in the eyes of anyone except the Tyroshi themselves, and we have more than enough firepower to simply defeat them by going for round two.

>>3524077
Qm can we even shell a city

>>3524079
You realize we will get more of their gold, a better claim to attack Myr with (which we were going to do anyway) and good relations with Tyrosh? Its a pretty good deal, assuming the target ships are military with no extra entanglements.

>>3524077
Why though? QM literally just wrote the more profitable path...

>>3524081
We are not "hiring ourselves out". We are "acting upon the information provided by our new enlightened friends". Very sharp difference. Plus, we have the Persuasion to do it better too now.

>>3524082
Yes, but we cant level it, more set it on fire and clear a few blocks. Its a naval ship, not a siege platform with infinite ammo. Plus, it would be expensive as fuck.

>>3524081
>>3524079

These anons have the right of it. Working for the tyrosh might be profitable, but it will absolutely gut our reputation.

Best thing we can do is win, get what riches we can get from crushing them, and by completing the course reap the rewards to our reputation back home.

Morally upright and noble lord is a much better image than vicious money grabber who can be bought off and who values lucre more than his principles and word.

>>3524086
I dont think you get how this works. We are not signing a decree stating we are now hired by them. They give us intel on which we happen to act. Not like doing so is out of our way in the first place.

Some points to consider before we accept this merchant-admiral's offer:

- We have the capacity to fuck with their port city. Emphasis on port.

- The "militia fleet" is a mostly empty threat, especially after the ass-whooping the regular military vessels received. Owners of such trading fleets are powerful men within the city by their own right, and there is no way they will risk their personal money-laying trade fleets if the costs are "reasonable" enough to send us away.

- The admiral is desperate. He wishes to salvage -something- from the spectacular loss. He is putting on a brave face, dangling an opportunity to be "friendly" with Tyrosh while fleecing Myr, but in reality he has no pieces on the table in the short term - and that is what matters in a city that can be blockaded by our single ship.

-Tyrosh relies on maritime trade to feed its population.

-Tyrosh relies on maritime trade to FEED ITS POPULATION.

I would like to suggest we separate this seemingly-single deal into two. In part the first, we have the matter of the Battle to resolve. Have them accept defeat, draft an official letter of apology for enslaving free Westerosi, LET OUR PEOPLE GO, and receive compensation for various extraneous costs. This is all done above-board in a very public manner. Send ravens to the Seven Kingdoms if you want.

Part the twain is a secret treaty, in which we accept harassing other Free Cities (which we were going to do anyway) for an additional cost, NO public declaration of Tyrosh-Tallon military friendship (looks bad for Westerosi nobles back home, and might paint a bad picture on what we just did - launch a Crusade - to turn 180 degrees so suddenly), and no specific targets aside from us repeating Tyrosh Incident on Myr. Plus a guarantee of not repeating this Incident if they keep their noses clean of dealing with Westerosi slave merchandise.

>>3524082
You have Little over 90% left on explosives ammo.
You can shoot regular cannon balls I guess, but it has less oomph.

If they decide to resist to the bitter end, they can weather the storm and you run out of ammo far before they run out of buildings.

>>3524090
This plan is basically what I am proposing.

>>3524087

I don't think you understand how important reputation and honor is in a fuedal society. We have publicly stated our intent to pursue a righteous campaign against Tyrosh, not only to our crew, but to our Lord and to our peers.

If we change our coats, even if we give some manner of excuse, people are going to remember it. Our crew will remember it. Our lord will remember it. Our peers will remember it. They will remember that we said one thing, and then did another.

Can we justify and get away with it? Probably. Will Stark ever forget that we did? No. Will Stark give a shit about our political justifications? No, frankly the man won't. He doesn't play the game well enough for that.

>>3524072
>>3524090
I vote for this we can only do this if they offer their public surrender first. We have a reputation to uphold after all.

>>3524093
You dont get it. We will go on Crusading on Myr anyway, whether or not Tyrosh wants a deal. Further, the Tyroshi deal is obviously not broadcast. How would this have a negative effect? We did what we set out to do - free our countrymen.

>>3524078
Oh yes, Myr and Lys have Westerosi slaves both, this you know.
Highborn ones are especially in demand in Lys.

>>3524081
You forget that our primary casus bell is the enslavement of Westerosi. Once they fulfill that part of the bargain (and pay us some money to make up for forcing us to come all the way here to whoop their arses) we lose any official right to wage war against them. The honour debt of our race is satisfied with the Moses'ing of our people.

Also, we are going to FC others anyway within short order, presumably. Ours is a righteous crusade to free our brethren, not act like a mercenary! That does not mean we can't receive a little bonus on the side for doing what we were going to do anyway, as long as it's kept on the down low.

>>3524092
Wanted to point things out to the anons who might be forgetting some relevant points to help them steer to the optimal choice.

(to no one in particular)

If the Tyrosh demand a public declaration of friendship between Arthur and the recently-enlightened enslaving city state, that is when we are going to have a problem. Optics matters a lot here, especially in such a dramatic amalgamation of political-social-religious-diplomatic act as ours. We should NOT be seen as being the bad guy for the sake of money, and the most positive association we get should be as "the man who bullied a list of westerosi slavers' names (in Myr) out of Tyroshi spice princes' grasps".

>>3524072
>>3524090
^This

>>3524072
>"Get me some papers incriminating the Myrish for possession of Westerosi slaves and you got yourself a deal."

So, after suffering our holy fury and witnessing our righteousness, the Tyroshi not only admitted to their crime and paid reparation, but they even choose to make amend and repent by following us in our most Just Crusade and freeing the Westerosi slave.
How is that for a narrative?

>>3524083
Anon, we made sure that our men are happy to fight the Tyroshi. We sent out a proclamation of war against them for everyone to hear. If we are bought out now then we lose our respect and reputation. We'd be no better than a whore fucking for money, we're looking for a committed and strong relationship with our neighbouring houses which will last much longer than a bit more gold gained right now..

>>3524086
You wouldn't really be working for them, you would be working WITH them, at least as long as your military objectives are fulfilled.

Basically, they give you the slaves and money, you go and fuck up Myr. Once Myr releases Westerosi Slaves and gives you money, your military objectives are complete and on your part the war ends.

The Tyroshi however will likely make some gains in contested lands to make up for the loss in money and slaves tho.

>>3524102
Can’t we also ask for some of there ship with the loot ?
Trade deals etc

>>3524101
See >>3524102

We are not hiring ourselves out ffs. We are not announcing we are getting some money for the crusade and some money for fucking up Myr. Its a sideline gig that will neither disrupt our current goals nor project any other image of us than is already being cast.

As for the narrative of hitting up Myr, we have some options. Other anons who are cleverer than I can surely think of ways to ensure we do not receive negative PR.

The McCarthy: "I bullied Tyrosh into giving me a list of names of COMMUNI- I mean Westerosi SLAVERS! And Myr is on the shit list now that Tyrosh received Enlightenment." [Politician-Militant]

The McArthur: "We must make use of the newly-turned Japane- Tyroshi to further our anti-slaver efforts. If that means using information extracted from the Tyroshi, who were only a moment ago one of them, so be it." [Grim Crusader]

Never, in any of the scenarios, should we mention the financial incentives provided by Tyrosh to hit up Myr specifically.

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Just saying
We need to make a profit in this crusade
From the tyrosh and the other free city’s

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>>3524106
Death is a preferable alternative to working with the enemy.

>>3524104
If you want to loot the ships you attack, that's your prerogative. They don't care.

Although it's pretty dangerous to loot ships on a fortified outpost or when there's an enemy fleet nearby.

>>3524110
Indeed ( we could visit them after but we need to finish tyrosh first)

count me in for the money and the deal but only if its kept on the down low and our people are freed like the anons said above with the whole working with the slavers is too politically incorrect for some minor bumfuck northern house.

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>>3524110
>muh platitudes

>>3524113
As in as part of the “ deal” can we ask for the ships that are intact or just a trade deal with the money for attacking myr

>>3524115
Thats the plan. Our Crusade wont change, our PR wont change but we just "find" some extra cash in return for making a detour and sinking a couple boats we would probably sink anyway.

>>3524118
What do you envisage needing from Tyrosh that we need a standing trade deal, anon? We don't have merchant ships, their ships will prefer to get to White Harbour than our tiny port. Do you have a concrete idea of what you desire?

>>3524072
>I Thik I can get a better deal if I just go and sink all your ships in port.

Fire on the fuckers. We came to fuck up Tyrosh, we will be a man of our word. We'll have every fat old merchant in the city scrambling to pay us not to blow up their warehouses and block their trade within the week.

>>3524125
We prob can blockade there ports for a while

>>3524072
>"Get me some papers incriminating the Myrish for possession of Westerosi slaves and you got yourself a deal."
>Write-in
"But know that this is a lucky one time deal,as my men are thirsty for slavers blood."
"For asking me to besiege a target of your enemies,I demand 100% looting rights. Any and all items I find belongs to me."
"However,your city is not off the leash yet. Should I find more reports of human poaching back at westeros after this,it will be my 2nd and last trip back to your city."
They offerings only placates us for the time being.

>>3524125
You realize our "mission" was to free slaves, yeah? Not to bomb the Tyroshi to the ground.

4 for papers
3 for sinking there fleet

>>3524090
You do realize that attacking someone without declaring war on them actually looks a LOT worse than working with the Tyroshi to any extent, especially after they've agreed to make concessions and free the Westerosi slaves.

>>3524180
Just send the pamphlet around with 'Myr' instead of 'Tyrosh'. I assumed we would be announcing Crusade 2: Electric Boogaloo before waging it, like the oceanic gentlemen that we are?

>>3524190
Mainly referencing to the secret treaty, as it implies that you aren't publicly conducting a war against them.

Besides, it's not bad optics if they agree to free their slaves and give you money for your troubles and you forgive them for enslaving the Westerosi since they paid for their crimes.
After all, when they see reason, no reason to beat them further or hide the fact and no reason you can't work together with them to free more westerosi slaves.

>>3524072
>"Get me some papers incriminating the Myrish for possession of Westerosi slaves and you got yourself a deal."
CASH CASH CASH

>>3524226
Yeah this should be our approach

>>3524090
my vote for this

>>3524090
My guy, you have my support

>>3524226
just to ask are we currently warring against just tyrosh or was the crusade declaration targeted to all slaver cities near us.
Because if it was just tyrosh none of these plans are great as you seem to be implying.

>>3524072
>"I think I can get a better deal if I just go and sink all your ships in port."
sink the dink

>>3524131
FUCK
UP
TYROSH

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>>3524313
We have letters set aside for Myr and Lys as well already. Just need the go-ahead.

>>3524347
pic related

>>3524385
"Gods I hate Tyroshi. My grandfather hated Tyroshi too, and that was before they put his eyes out"

Blue haired fuckers. Burn it down.

Burn there fleet

>>3524072
>Get me some papers incriminating the Myrish for possession of Westerosi slaves and you got yourself a deal."

Reminder that we are getting reparations + freed Westerosi already. We've been behaving like civilised men so far, which is probably why the admiral felt safe to come visit in our ship.

You guys are about to Daenerys this shit up. Never go full Ironborn.

>>3524226
Let me get this straight. So we already accomplished what we se out to do, the Tyroshi will pay us and free the slaves. If we agree with their proposal, we will get more money and free more slaves than we set out to do?
And in fact it will be justified and won't affect our reputation?

Am I getting this right? While I'm not smart about Got and feudal politics in general, the MC is not. If what is being suggested is something clearly stupid and MC should know it, please tell us.

Otherwise, my vote is agreeing with the suggestion but first make sure that they pay us and free the slaves

>>3524522
Its clearly the Admiral trying to cover his own ass by having us aid him while getting more money. We wont suffer any political fallout, we will gain a stronger casus belli and better relations with Tyrosh.

Its literally either trying to Daenerys Tyrosh or doing a Littlefinger and getting stinky filthing rich for no real effort.

>>3524531
even more rich*

>>3524072
>"Get me some papers incriminating the Myrish for possession of Westerosi slaves and you got yourself a deal."
You guys wanting to go full Dany are retarded if you don't think it ends with slave crucifixion and human shields.

Why are you voting to make our cash grab more obvious to our lord paramount and just take their money don’t make any deals with them just get what we came for and if we have to sink some more ships then do it

We can do the same thing to Myrish later

>>3524560
We are reducing loss of live and getting help to free more slaves, I don’t see how our Lord would be angry with us.

>"I think I can get a better deal if I just go and sink all your ships in port."

>>3524566
also they are not paying us
they are appeasing us. and gave us info on more loot before hitting the main city of Myr

What's the current tally?

Also what are the chance they want to attack us from behind when we attempt to deal with the fort we would be trapped between land and their fleet

>>3524573
Looking at 100k to 220k if we take the deal and roll well. Otherwise 100k, as I understand it.

>>3524077
>>3524079
>>3524081
>>3524125
>>3524342
>>3524569
sink
>>3524078
>>3524100
>>3524130
>>3524229
>>3524434
>>3524550
paper

>>3524575
Except we are faster and they are fucked if they do that. Especially up-close. Keep in mind we also have cannons at the front and back.

>>3524072

>>"I think I can get a better deal if I just go and sink all your ships in port."

>>3524575
Then you could make a deal with Myr I suppose.

They are paying us extra just to do what we would have done anyway. I am not sure you sinkers understand that there will be no repercussions, because we're not being "hired", we are being paid to "please go away and by the way these guys who aren't us have Westerosi slaves too".

All the while, some of you are asking for salvage rights to a bunch of rapidly sinking ships that can't offer much unless you have dedicated deep divers who, for some reason, you seem to think can lift chestfuls of gold (that don't exist in -warships- in the first place).

Why?

>>3524072
>"Get me some papers incriminating the Myrish for possession of Westerosi slaves and you got yourself a deal."

>>3524522
Yes, you achieve what the crusade set out to do if you agree to assist them in fucking Myr.

Basically, there's a possibility that either the Myrish kill you or they make up for the loss of ships, coin and slaves by further gains on contested lands.

Westerosi slave trade was ALWAYS something that was relatively a minor cut in slave trade and for rich folk there's always the black market.

>>3524313
It's just Tyrosh now, you have other letter bombs ready to be deployed by gormless agents who were a steady flow of coppers to keep those letters around until they heard the code word from a messenger.

Once they heard it, then they would send letters as agreed and get bag of silvers for their troubles.
Naturally you picked illiterates for this job.

>>3524522
Rad fells like someone who'll fuck us up in the long run depending on the choice we make now, it makes sense in asoiaf setting. I fear like we should be chaotic good right now and kill the fuckers.

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>>3524616
>good
>mass murder a city with bombs

I suggest we accept the Tyroshi's kind gesture of gifting us with the detail of military target Westerosi slave-holding Myreneese areas and return to King's Landing with Jorahrafts laden with reparation cash, while the letterbombs make their rounds, this time on Myr.

After all, it wouldn't do to hit them out of the blue. Repeat the theatrics with the crusade announcement with Myr in place of Tyrosh, and we'll be set.

A gentle reminder: The merchants were only willing to deal with us, because they thought we were willing to be dealt with. If you guys vote Daenerys, you will get Daenerys. Whether you want to spend the rest of your time finding crucified Westerosi slaves inland or not is up to you.

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>>3524619
Chaotic dogooders man, they suck each other off man.

>>3524522
Yes, the MC would know more or less how to make it not seem unnecessarily shady.
Also, religiously speaking you are totally in the clear to accept this deal. In fact, there is support for it in the Seven Pointed Star if you want to make that argument.

Ultimately tho, the thing you need to remember is there are no news cameras or reporters. You can spin a narrative you like, bards and mummers will make whatever shows they like about it, often to highest bidders.

>>3524072
>"Get me some papers incriminating the Myrish for possession of Westerosi slaves and you got yourself a deal."

Even if they try to double cross us, you could just cut a deal if things go really poorly.

>>"I think I can get a better deal if I just go and sink all your ships in port."

We'll just be warring on two fronts, and when tyrosh Does betray our ass all the free cities will be on our ass too.

>>3524677
What part of 25% of warfleet dead in 3 hours leaves you to believe they would try this shit again and risk being even weaker vs the other two cities?

>>3524621
Basically this is the best deal we can get
>>3524072
>get me some papers incriminating the myrish

>>3524681
Their entire culture is founded on pompous assholes. If their willing to use civilian ships and don't know about the steam engine in the ship they would definitively be willing to rush and overwhelm.

>>3524688
Yeah we didnt even really move they have no idea how fast we can move and for how long

>>3524072
>"Get me some papers incriminating the Myrish for possession of Westerosi slaves and you got yourself a deal."

>>3524703
We were moving under steam power though, in addition to the wind. Speedy as fuck.

>>3524688
They are pompous, not retarded. Whats more, they are business men. Stop being so goddamn paranoid.

>>3524727
>you just tempted murphy's

We should totally write down machiavel; everyone in the nobility would buy it :P

>>3524753
Half the anons here should buy it as well, from the looks of the votes

>>3524347
We already fucked up Tyrosh, who is the naval power.


Ok. Our objectives are to get ludicrous amounts of money and free westerosi slaves for massive positive reputation gains

We have conducted ourselves with gallantry and poise, and conducted a very fine display of complete naval superiority over their fleet.

They know they are beaten and the Admiral knows he is going to get fucked one way or another.

This is not about Tyrosh per say as much as it is about the Admiral, the Admiral who I will remind you is in command of a very professional navy and is of very sound military mind, and know we know of a very sound political mind.

He has political enemies that will want if not his head then him replaced or forced into charging our guns again, but if he comes with a succesful negociation of us being willing to do some small sellsail job, then he is the one who got the ear of the fleetkiller ship and its aid for Tyrosh, once Tyrosh of course pays the price for the whole slaved westerosi and having to use our ship on them thing - a thing he would be very interested in facilitating as that is prereq of us helping him.

Thus, here are my aims. First we agree with this in principle, however, we strike Lys first.

Why? Lys is a greater naval power than Myr as it is a island nation and they are rather known for the quality of their sailors.
More importantly, Lys is the one who is most definitely holding the highest number and percentage of noble westerosi as slaves- they are the ones who would cater to such a demand in their pleasure houses.

Politically for us getting to Lys before they can liquidate their stock of westerosi slaves, who once on ships further east wont be a thing we can intercept.

Sure we might hit them and they will have to hand all the westerosi slaves they still have, and treasure but if they are smart - and i would not want to underestimate them, they would sell them or ship them out so prize slaves are not available, one way or another - the higher status and attractiveness the more this is likely to be done to the slaves considering what Lys likes to focus on: breeding their slaves to perfection.

Myr meanwhile, while it has fine craftsmen it too would want to liquidate, is not the same as bringing back large numbers of nobles who will be personally indebted to us for life.

This is something that should be seriously considered as with all that political support having people try to fuck with us on the political scene would become impossible - especially the court of the iron throne who is about half lannister. And this will also help insulate our family in the reach a bit with a lot of houses that are predisposed to counter intrigues aimed at them and regard them in a rather positive light - as our family in the south will be our active southern political operators and proxies while we seclude ourselves to Port Maw to pursue new project with all the loot once we are done with our Crusades and Victory Tour.

>>3524780
Inl support this anon if we can vote for Myr next this is a sound idea and killing the naval powers first before they can liquidate is an excellent idea.

>>3524072
>>"Get me some papers incriminating the Myrish for possession of Westerosi slaves and you got yourself a deal."

>>3524780
this

>>3524780
I agree, but its not like after we agree to hit Myr we agree to do it soon. They can give us a few months I hope.

>>3524780
>limit break

I am certain we can delay the Myr job, but if we could get a Lys job too, that would be rather fun, and perhaps a nice coup for him too, provided they have the manpower to not overextend.

So potentially the vote i think should go like this.

>"Get me some papers incriminating the Lysheni and Myrish for possession of Westerosi slaves and you got yourself a deal, but first I am going to Lys, and would appreciate a similar offer for the lovely city."

This way we get two extra jobs, the Admiral gets more than he initially hoped, and we get more money.

>>3524780
Agreed.

>>3524180
>>3524190
No need to be autistic. Lots of Westerosi highborn manage visit essos and he free cities and interact with the essosi without being blacklisted.

Plus we show that we are not unreasonable. We came to do a fucking thing, we did it - free westerosi, and then we turned it around and had them assist us in furthering our crusades to other cities with a lot more accurate information.

Lists of all the Myrish and Lysheni slaves they got would be quite useful in making sure we got important people back, and they do not get 'misplaced'

>>3524072
>"Get me some papers incriminating the Myrish for possession of Westerosi slaves and you got yourself a deal."


So just to recap on what I think the current plan people want to do is:

1) Take our ransom of slaves + cash from the Tyrosh. Send them back to Westeros immediately on our mate's boats. Maybe have a little party with the Tyrosh to say no hard feelings (our ship has standing orders that if we don't return, it continues attacking).

2) Send out a second wave of letters across the realm announcing our success and the new target of Myr with the information from the Tyrosh, giving them a month to meet our terms or else. Mostly so we can go meet Stark and ask him to forgive us for this, repay our loan and show off all the people we freed.

3) After this, do the same with Lys using yet more evidence from the Tyrosh.

4) At this point we should have as much as 120,000 to 180,000 Gold Dragons depending on what we manage to extract from each between 40,000 or 60,000. That translates out to 600 and 800 wealth. Not counting everything else we've gotten. Carrying on would be kinda pointless, return home for real and get to being a rich ass bastard.

Do I have that right?

>>3524993
yeah but we are thinking of hitting lys first insted of myr

>>3524993
>1) Take our ransom of slaves + cash from the Tyrosh. Send them back to Westeros immediately on our mate's boats.
Yes
>Maybe have a little party with the Tyrosh to say no hard feelings (our ship has standing orders that if we don't return, it continues attacking).
No, even if we try to be nice, its gunna take some time for the hurt feelings and dead bodies to cool off.
>2) Send out a second wave of letters across the realm announcing our success and the new target of Myr with the information from the Tyrosh, giving them a month to meet our terms or else. Mostly so we can go meet Stark and ask him to forgive us for this, repay our loan and show off all the people we freed.
Imo we should go for Lys for the reasons listed here
>>3524780
3) After this, do the same with Lys using yet more evidence from the Tyrosh.
Go after Myr as step three with info from Tryrosh yes, but also try to get a similar deal from the Lys people. No reason we cant double dip.
>4) At this point we should have as much as 120,000 to 180,000 Gold Dragons depending on what we manage to extract from each between 40,000 or 60,000. That translates out to 600 and 800 wealth. Not counting everything else we've gotten. Carrying on would be kinda pointless, return home for real and get to being a rich ass bastard.
Yes

>>3524993
Pretty much, except for the party bit, I think the part that says no hard feelings is us not sinking the rest of their fleet and just leaving with the information.

Okay so correcting what >>3525005 and >>3525008 said,

1) Finish up here, take our winnings, settle buisness in Westeros with Stark.

2) Have another wave of letters announcing that our next crusade target is Lys, giving them some time to surrender to our demands before we strike.

3) Hit Myr, same as the above.

4) Return to Westeros, throw massive party, get married, spend our excessive wealth.

>>3524727
I'm just giving my perspective mate. I can be as paranoid as I please seeing as we have been screwed by less by not thinking.

>>3525030
Ill remind you the deal means we sink some Myrish ships at a fort. Thus I would say its a matter of urgency.

Agree to the deal, immideatly send out the ravens, take a week to transfer the slaves and loot from Tyrosh and then head for the Myrish outpost in question before hitting up the city itself.

>>3525328
Suppose I cant fault you for that. Still, QM himself has said they wont actually backstab due to political concerns.

>>3525612
They might backstab you if the benefits from doing so outweigh the benefits from not doing so or they have a personal vendetta against you.

Exactly how it was in the Song of Ice and Fire.

>>3525629
Currently no personal vendetta and the admiral stands to deal a blow to Myr for the benefit of Tyrosh. Seems pretty cut and dry.

>>3524993
Keep in mind you have no knowledge Stark has sent you a message

>"Get me some papers incriminating the Myrish for possession of Westerosi slaves and you got yourself a deal."
Best to consolidate on taking the job then and decide later.

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We will probably need there boat to carry the free slaves
And will we go to westeros first and hit lys or lys them westeros

>>3525713
We already have Jorah to handle transport and as soon as things are in order in Tyrosh we will hit Myr. Then we see if the Myrish and Tyroshi want us to fuck up Lys while we are over there. No point sailing around Westeros until we are done in the east and its PR/money-management time.

>>3525721
The plan is to hit lys first because they will have more slaves and bigger navy
They will prob liquidate there “ loot”

>>3525724
Navy is a non-issue (tyrosh was biggest and got fucked in 3 hours) and they cant really sell the slaves anywhere. Not like anyone else will take them, much less in such a short timeframe. And if they liquidate their loot? Easier for us to carry.

>>3525728
Liquidate as selling to the people of slaver bay

>>3525739
After seeing what we have done to the three close-by slaver cities and after learning that we are only after westerosi slaves, do you really think *anybody* would be looking at buying them? If Lys has heard about our Crusade, any slavers, whether local or visiting, will have as well.

The price of Westerosi slaves will plummet and the slavers will look for ways to sell them, sure, but nobody will buy them. And again, the time frame we are talking about is a month or two, nowhere near enough time to drop many slaves with such news of a Crusade broadening its initial scope. Any slaver dumb enough to want to buy westerosi after the news spreads will have been eaten out of the competition long ago.

>>3524072
>"I think I can get a better deal if I just go and sink all your ships in port."

Counting votes

>>3525792
Can we vote to hit lys first or do we have to hit myr ?

>>3525688
True but we do need to return to get more ammo just in case our next target is less willing to capitulate so we can find out once we return to our holdings to restock.

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