Hello, everyone, and welcome to the trial run of my homebrew rules for playing a family from the Free Cities of Essos, rather than a House of Westeros. This will be using Green Ronin ASOIAFRPG or Chronicle system, but with some changes, chiefly to how Holdings, especially Power Holdings, work. In the next post I will put up the Homebrew rules I have, and will leave them up for about 2 hours so people can peruse them, and ask any questions about them. I anticipate Family generation and Character Generation taking longer than normal, but thats anticipated with new rules.>I thought you ran House Blacksand. What happened to that and is it coming back?House Blacksand ended when I had illness coupled with moving house and the beginnings of burnout. I'm settled now, and know what the problem was (I was running the threads to intensively for me to handle, and then began to feel like I was slipping behind etc.). As to if it is coming back, yes, on Sunday I will be running House Blacksand again, picking up where we left off. Here is the Archive Link so people can catch up. >http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=House%20Blacksand
Here is the new rules, feel free to look over them, and ask any questions you have. As a slight tl;dr, I'll answer some anticipated questions now.>Pentos can't have power units? Thats super unfair, why do that?That is intentional. Pentos is unable, in lore, to have more than 20 Warships, and have any standing forces or sellswords at all. The only way to have military forces as Pentos is to hire Slave Soldiers. As compensation for this, Pentos has 5 extra resources at Family gen. >Everything seems to cost wealth or Influence. How can you get a good mix of stuff if everything costs the same?Again, that is intentional. At generation, only 1 city has negatives in both Influence and Wealth, and that is made up for by special rules, and the others with Negatives in those resources have more than enough bonuses from special, unique things to make up for it.>City X is clearly better than City Y. Why would anyone play City Y?Because you roll randomly. In my opinion, Kings Landing is the weakest of all the starts in the base game, only good from a boost to law, with a wide range of penalties. However, thats why we roll randomly to decide where we end up.(BTW, when we get to choosing a city, it will be roll 3 times, and vote. Each city has an equal chance of appearing)
>>3461801>Lys Welcome back. Glad you feel better now.
>>3461801Glad to see you back. House Blacksand was one of my favourite ASOIAF quests.
>>3461801>MyrGood to have you back
>>34618271. Welcome back2. Are you father in disguise?
>>3461942I am not Father in disguise, as can be seen in the House Blacksand quest where I checked if I could use everyone's favourite banker before I did. So unless father is into some weird double bluff roleplay, I am not he.
>>3461948Ah yes, fat Aros. I remember now.
soooo....when is something happening?
>>34619952 hours from the first post. As I said. This is here so people can read over and get their head around the new houserules.
>>3461827What year will this take place? Will we be able to choose what religion we follow or do we follow the religion of whatever city is chosen?
>>3462025This will take place in 284 AC. As for religion, as long as you are not in a city that states you can't worship certain things (Norvos), you can choose.
>>3462037then if this takes place in the same universe then lissara can make a cameo
>>3462070Lissara has just married, so depedning on where you end up, maybe. However, people are getting restless, so I'll start the House Generation.I'll need 3 rolls of a d9, taking the first 3 results (So roll a d9)>1-Braavos>2-Lorath>3-Lys>4-Norvos>5-Pentos>6-Qohor>7-Tyrosh>8-Myr>9-VolantisIf there is a duplicate in the rolls, I'll add an option, a dealers choice.
Rolled 7 (1d9)>>3462091Hoping for Braavos
Rolled 1 (1d9)>>3462091
Rolled 6 (1d9)>>3462091
Rolled 5 (1d9)>>3462091
>>3462108>>3462103>>3462094>7. Tyrosh>1. Braavos>6. Qohor>Tyrosh- Tyrosh is an Island city, with claims on the disputed lands. It is ruled over by an Archon, who is chosen from a conclave of the wise and powerful (Or wealthiest). Tyrosh has a stranglehold on the dye trade in Essos, thanks to being close to the only place producing purple dye. Several banks are based here, and the city is in a state of near warfare with Lys and Myr over the disputed lands. >Braavos- Braavos is also known as the Bastard Daughter of Valyria, and is one of the most powerful Free Cities. Etablished by escaped slaves, slavery is outlawed here, and recently, similar limitations were placed upon Pentos. The City is ruled by the Sealord, chosen by the Keyholders, the descendants of the 23 first slaves. >Qohor- On the edge of the forest of the same name, on the bank of the Qhoyne, sits Qohor, city of the Black Goat. Strange and dark rumours surround this city, chiefly due to it's steelsmiths being able to reforge Valyrian Steel, and the large amount of Blood Mages living in the city. Qohor is ruled by a council of elected officials, though candidates are typically selected from the powerful and influential within the city.
>>3462140>>Qohor- On the edge of the forest of the same name, on the bank of the Qhoyne, sits Qohor, city of the Black Goat. Strange and dark rumours surround this city, chiefly due to it's steelsmiths being able to reforge Valyrian Steel, and the large amount of Blood Mages living in the city. Qohor is ruled by a council of elected officials, though candidates are typically selected from the powerful and influential within the city.
>>3462158After rereading the rules I'm changing to Qohor. I want that sweet Valyrian steel.
>>3462140>Qohor- On the edge of the forest of the same name, on the bank of the Qhoyne, sits Qohor, city of the Black Goat. Strange and dark rumours surround this city, chiefly due to it's steelsmiths being able to reforge Valyrian Steel, and the large amount of Blood Mages living in the city. Qohor is ruled by a council of elected officials, though candidates are typically selected from the powerful and influential within the city.
>>3462172Valyrian steel is good but access to the narrow sea is much better.
Closing Vote here, at quarter past the hour.
>>3462246Tyrosh>>3462203>>3462180>>3462167>>3462157Braavos>>3462148>>3462159Qohor>>3462143>>3462150>>3462172>>3462183>>3462238Okay, Qohor wins by one vote.Qohor. On the edge of the Dothraki sea, gaurded by the 3000 Unsullied of Qohor, and the gateway to the Far East, Vaes Dothrak and Yi Ti, Qohor is an eirie place. Founded by Cultists of the Black Goat, who is still the predominant god within the city, Qohoric Families profit from lumber and trade in expensive goods brought from beyond the lands normally called Essos. This trade has made Qohor rich, though not as rich as it once was when the Kingdom of Sarnor existed, before it's end in the Century of Blood.The large forests, and the fact that Norvos holds the far bank of the Qhoyne, means that fertile land is in short supply for the Qohoric, and the morbid reputation the city enjoys lessens the reach of the families inside. However, protected by an elite army of Unsullied, and with laws enforced by a City Watch unburdened of city defense, Qohor enjoys a defensible, secure position.Please give me 7 rolls of 7d6, for House Starting Resources
Rolled 2, 2, 6, 6, 1, 4, 1 = 22 (7d6)>>3462271
Rolled 2, 1, 5, 2, 4, 4, 3 = 21 (7d6)>>3462271
Rolled 1, 1, 4, 1, 5, 6, 2 = 20 (7d6)>>3462271
Rolled 2, 2, 1, 5, 3, 6, 6 = 25 (7d6)>>3462271
Rolled 2, 6, 2, 3, 3, 2, 5 = 23 (7d6)>>3462271
Rolled 2, 4, 2, 2, 2, 6, 2 = 20 (7d6)>>3462271
If we don't get the last roll by quarter to, I'll finish it off.
Rolled 1, 2, 1, 5, 6, 4, 3 = 22 (7d6)>>3462271>>3462314
Qohoric BonusesFamily Resources22+10=32 Defense21-5= 16 Influence20-5=15 Lands25+10=35 Law23+0=23 Population20+0=20 Power22+5=27 WealthOkay, now we need how old the house is. I'll need a 1d6.
Rolled 5, 6, 2, 1, 2, 5, 3 = 24 (7d6)>>3462271
Rolled 1 (1d6)>>3462323
Rolled 6 (1d6)>>3462323Pretty mediocre
>>3462331>1. Ancient. The Age of Heroes. Predating Valyria itself, stretching back beyond the Long Night, your Family has always been here. Were you part of the first Dragontamers, but abandoned your ways when the Freehold announced tolerance of religion? Or have you always lived on the banks of the Qhoyne, in some fashion, merging with the cultists of the Black Goat?I'll take >>3462332 as the next d6 roll, so you have a total of 9 events. Can I please get 9 rolls of 3d6.
Rolled 1, 3, 2 = 6 (3d6)>>3462343
Rolled 6, 5, 3 = 14 (3d6)>>3462343Maybe a family of old dragonlords exiled and deprived of their dragons?
Rolled 2, 4, 5 = 11 (3d6)>>3462343>>3462343
Rolled 6, 6, 4 = 16 (3d6)>>3462343
Rolled 3, 5, 6 = 14 (3d6)>>3462343
Dear god you might end up being the most powerful house ever to be made in QST.
Rolled 6, 1, 5 = 12 (3d6)>>3462343
Rolled 5, 1, 5 = 11 (3d6)I'm gonna see if I can't spike this, something needs to stunt this never ending run of good events...
>>3462407At this point I don't mind taking 1 Doom to represent the destruction of Valyria lol
>>3462418I would, but the problem is that the Free Cities (Except Volantis) realy benefitted from the doom, since they got their freedom, and stopped paying taxes.
Rolled 3, 2, 4 = 9 (3d6)>>3462343
I'll drop one more roll at half past the hour.
Rolled 5, 4, 5 = 14 (3d6)>>3462343
>>3462434>even the bad event we got is the least bad event possible
So do we win?
1. Madness (6-2d6 to each resource)2. Victory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, and power)3. Infrastructure: (+1d6 to 2 resources)4. Glory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, Law and Power5. Victory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, and power)6. Ascent (+1d6 to Influence, Lands, Law and Power)7. Infrastructure: (+1d6 to 2 resources)8. Treachery (-1d6 to Influence and Law, +1d6 to Power)9. Victory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, and power)32 Defense +4d616 Influence +5d6, -1d615 Lands +1d635 Law +2d6, -1d623 Population ---20 Power +6d627 Wealth ---Okay, we need to make a decision about where the Infrastructure is, and then handle the Madness. We'll start with where you want the 4 1d6 rolls to go, maximum of 2d6 per resource.>Defense>Influence>Lands>Law>Population>Power>Wealth
>>34624731 lands, 1 pop, 2 wealth
>>34624731 pop1 weal1 inf1 law
>>3462477>>3462480>>3462490>>3462491Okay, 1 lands, 1 pop, 2 wealth1. Madness (6-2d6 to each resource)2. Victory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, and power)3. Infrastructure: (+1d6 to 2 resources)4. Glory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, Law and Power5. Victory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, and power)6. Ascent (+1d6 to Influence, Lands, Law and Power)7. Infrastructure: (+1d6 to 2 resources)8. Treachery (-1d6 to Influence and Law, +1d6 to Power)9. Victory (+1d6 to Defense, Influence, and power)32 Defense +4d616 Influence +5d6, -1d615 Lands +2d635 Law +2d6, -1d623 Population +1d620 Power +6d627 Wealth +2d6Right, now I need 7 2d6 rolls. These numbers will be subtracted from 6, and applied to each resource.
Rolled 2, 5 = 7 (2d6)>>3462512
Rolled 3, 4 = 7 (2d6)>>3462512
Rolled 4, 2 = 6 (2d6)>>3462512
Rolled 6, 1 = 7 (2d6)>>3462512
Rolled 3, 3 = 6 (2d6)>>3462512
Rolled 1, 6 = 7 (2d6)>>3462512
Rolled 4, 4 = 8 (2d6)>>3462512
>>3462515>>3462517>>3462522>>3462523>>3462526>>3462533>>346253531 Defense +4d615 Influence +5d6, -1d615 Lands +2d634 Law +2d6, -1d623 Population +1d619 Power +6d625 Wealth +2d6Right, so now we need 24 d6s. So lets break this down to 6 rolls of 4d6, and I'll apply them down the line, as they are written here.
Rolled 3, 2, 5, 5 = 15 (4d6)>>3462538
Rolled 5, 6, 3, 3 = 17 (4d6)>>3462538
Rolled 1, 2, 1, 6 = 10 (4d6)>>3462538
So that madness could have gone alot worse. Maybe better, but a total of -7 is not bad. So basically, when you were founded, your founder (Who pre-dates Qohor, btw) was more than a little crazy, but not world-endingly.
Rolled 5, 1, 4, 3 = 13 (4d6)>>3462538
Rolled 2, 5, 2, 5 = 14 (4d6)>>3462538
Whoever mentioned exiled dragonlord, that sounds like a cool idea. Maybe our ancestor went mad because he foresaw the doom, abandoned the gods, became a crazy street preacher type, and was exiled for his actions.
>>3462566Checked. I like it. Maybe our string of fortunes came when his heir started worshiping the true Valyrian gods again, Balerion, Syrax, Vhagar, and Meraxes.
>>3462566Problem is, your house was officially founded with Valyria, basically. Since it's age of heroes, and Valyria comes around mid Age of Heroes
Rolled 2, 6, 2, 3 = 13 (4d6)Right, I'll finish off the 4d6 rolls
>>3462579Sooooo, the doom has or hasn’t happened yet?
>>3462584Not at the house founding. At around your Ascent is when the Doom happens.46 Defense 31 Influence 22 Lands 36 Law 26 Population 41 Power 30 Wealth Okay, you now have 1d6 to put anywhere you want to.>Defense>Influence>Lands>Law>Population>Power>Wealth
>>3462584Despite all the "The Doom is over 400 years ago" in the books, thats barely anything compared to how old the Starks are. Brandon the Builder was making the Wall when your house was founded, thats how old you are. You may very well be one of the first families of Valyria.
Rolled 5 (1d6)>>3462596>Wealth
>>3462606Okay we'll keep the 5 as rolled, but wait to see the result of the vote.
I'll call the vote at 10 past
>>3462606>>3462621>>3462622 Wealth carries itFinal Resources46 Defense31 Influence22 Lands36 Law26 Population41 Power35 Wealth
>>3462636Phew, that was long and arduos. However, you guys are impressive...Defense- Excellent defenses, not only are the lands of this family well guarded with fortified positions, but the city holdings are probably walled and enclosed as well.Influence- Lesser in influence, this Family does not sway much respect among other cities, or families.Lands- The lands of this family is modest, most likely only one settlement or industry placement.Law- Control over the holdings of this Family is secure, with patrols and very little crime tolerated.Population- The people who owe your family their taxes are typical in numer, a small village perhaps, or numerous small farmsteads.Power- Compared to most free cities families, you command an intimidating force, diverse, and probably containing several non-slave or sellsword forces.Wealth- Prosperous. Your family can easily afford to maintain themselves, both at home and in their holdings.Now we need to look at Holdings. This will proceed normally, except for the first. You must have a City Holding where you operate out of (Similar to Castles in Westeros). While these are technically purely rp based, there will be alot of benefits from having certain things. For context, Illyrio Mopatis would count as having a Palace.>Suite of Rooms: (5 Wealth, 5 Influence, 3d6 months). A set of rooms, well appointed and with sufficient bedrooms for the immediate family and their servants. Lower ranking family members and guests sometimes have to find rooms elsewhere.>Townhouse: (10 Wealth, 10 Influence, 6d6 months). A full house, with rooms for the immediate family, guest rooms, and rooms for slaves or servants. Lower ranking family, and unimportant guests will have to find rooms elsewhere.>Palace: (5 Defense, 15 Wealth, 10 Influence, 60+10d6 Months). A large, expansive building, with walls, plentiful rooms for family and guests, and a full wing of servant/slave quarters. Luxurious and a clear sign of wealth and power.>Enclave: (10 Defense, 20 Wealth, 15 Influence, 96+10d6 Months). An entire section of the city put aside for your family and their operations. Surrounding a large palace, enclosed with walls, with separate gates to gain entry, and including artisans, taverns and merchants not even contracted to your family. Only the most powerful families can afford these.
>>3462665>96+10d6 MonthsWhat does this part mean?
>>3462669That is how long it would take to build if you buy it in the game, not during family creation.
>>3462665>Suite of Rooms: (5 Wealth, 5 Influence, 3d6 months). A set of rooms, well appointed and with sufficient bedrooms for the immediate family and their servants. Lower ranking family members and guests sometimes have to find rooms elsewhere.
>>3462672Alright, let's take the biggest one then>>3462665>Enclave
>>3462676What are the benefits of each one?
>>3462684I don't know, I just picked the one that's most fitting for our old, successful family
>>3462684Same benefits you get from having a castle as a Westerosi House. Mainly RP based, but the bigger ones are more secure, your enemies will have a harder time screwing with your City Holdings, etc.Thing to remember is, that unlike with a Westerosi Noble House, you are based in the city, with your lands some distance away from the city itself. This represents where you live, work and operate from, so is fairly important.
>>3462689From the numbers, it looks like you are an old, but declined family. You have kept your established buildings etc, but your business and political power has waned. At one point, you may have been the ruler of Qohor, but those days are gone.
>>3462665Enclave. Maybe we have a dockside enclave and our own warehouses there.
>>3462715>>3462711>>3462676>>346267310/46 Defense15/31 Influence 22 Lands36 Law26 Population41 Power20/35 Wealth Okay you now handle Defense Holdings. These will be on your lands, securing them against raids, and attacks. They also will house any troops you employ and don't keep in the city.You have 36 Defense to spend.
>>3462730Can we get a small castle that’s been almost upgraded into a regular castle?
>>3462734You can't purchase partial upgrades. Also, the more defense holdings you have, the more separate pieces of land you can protect. Again, more of an RP thing, but will be taken into consideration if you get into a serious fight.
>>3462730Let's go with a small castle, we don't have that much land anyway
>>3462730Small castle. We don’t have much in the way of lands to protect anyway.
>>3462730A Small Castle, save the rest.
>>3462756>>3462754>>3462752Okay, next would be Influence normally. However, Influence is used to purchase troops as well, so that is something to consider. As such, we'll skip this for now and move onto lands. You have 22 Lands to spend, and can spend it according to this table. I have realised when I made the Homebrew, I mistyped when putting woods in and put it in the wrong column. As such, being from Qohor, you can have Hills or Wetlands, and then Community, Road, Ruin, Water, Woods.
>>3462768Hills, Woods (Dense), Hamlet
>>3462768No Plains? We are next to the Dothrak sea.
>>3462782"Next to" meaning there is a huge ass forest between you and the grasslands full of crazy murdurous nomads.
I have no idea what combination of stuff is best to get for lands so I just picked that. I could see having an island holding working though.
>>3462768Hills, Road, Hamlet
>>3462790What’s better, road or woods? I’d guess roads, but Woods could get us lumber for shipbuilding material, and we are in a coastal city as well.
>>3462768>>3462790Ok thenHills with light woodHills with road
Also is a hamlet something we should get? Is that separate from our population score?
>>3462796>we are in a coastal city as well.No we are not.
>>3462796Qohor literally only controls the Forest of Qohor, and the wetlands inbetween said Forest and the Darkwash.
We are on a large river though, connected to the mother rhone. I vote go with woods
>>3462807If you have a hamlet it means you have a centre of population, instead of them all being scattered in small camps etc.
Well, that definitely doesn’t look coastal.
Right, so Hills and Hamlet have 2 votes, so its between a road, or woods. Your lands will be on the Dothraki side of the forest, in the foothills of the large hills that are between the former Kingdom of Sarnor and the Forest of Qohor. IF you choose road, its on the road, probably in control of the border castle guarding the road to Qohor. If further up, probably guarding the northern approach.
>>3462845*If you choose Woods.
>>3462845Go for the road
Domain 1:Hills, Dense Woods, River (15)Domain 2: Wetlands, Stream, Ruin (7)Puts us on the safe side of the Dothraki sea, on the river for maximum trade benefits with the other free cities. Plus using the lumber can eventually let us build boats and the like. That will allow us to toll our section of river, defend it etc etc
>>3462854A word, you are not living on these lands. This is where your tenants live, people who work the land and send it to Qohor, where it is processed and sent on. Everything flows into your holdings in the city, then outwards. The Free Cities are very centralised.
>>3462845Road. Sounds like a good way to collect tolls.
I'll call this at quarter past.
>>3462854This is good too.
>>3462859All the more reason to keep our lands away from dothraki savages. We arnt collecting tolls from the dothraki. Odds are they just ride around us if were strong enough to threaten a khalasar, or they raid and pillage our lands if we are weak
>>3462854This will leave half of our lands undefended since we only had enough for 1 castle.
>>3462795Supporting this. Just to break the tie with a sensible option.
>>3462888Leave the marsh undefended. Hard to invade through swamps. Defend our prime forest with a castle, and maybe we can build a wooden fort on our other domain when were more established?
>>3462897Or we just conquer a hall or tower from some other family who are weaker and can’t protect it effectively.
>>3462907Also valid. I'm just super wary about being close to the dothraki sea. Seems like a good way to give up alot of wealth, especially with a hamlet. In my head that screams easy pickings
>>3462874The Dothraki don't pillage Qohoric lands, since Qohor regularly pays tribute (every 3-4 years), currently at the least.>>3462891>>3462863>>3462849We have 3 votes for a single holding of Hills, Hamlet, and Road. Your castle is here as well. Initially intended to allow Qohor to profit from the trader between Essaria and the rest of the Freehold, now it is the eastern guardpost of the Qohoric holdings, the last safe haven before the Dothraki sea. Around the castle is a small community, which pay rents to your family.Next we would move on to power holdings, but Power Holdings have special rules for the free cities. Wealth is far more important, since it also includes the buildings you need to recruit different types of soldiers. You have 15 wealth to spend. Being from Qohor, you can build, in addition to the normal things from Out of Strife, Prosperity and the Homebrew, two more.Secrets of Old Valyria: Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months). You maytake the Family Heirloom Trait without spending a destiny point. All armour and weapons purchased are superior by default, without the extra cost. (Superior Armour gains +1 AV and -1 Bulk)The Dark Arts: Blood Mage (5 Wealth, 5 Influence, 2d6 Months). +2d6-6 to Family Fortunes, gains Blood Mage as a Narrator Character.
>>3462914With a castle nearby? Nah. Just gotta show we’re too strong to be bothered with. But we could point them to our weaker neighbors, and then when those neighbors can’t effectively defend their land from the Dothraki we come in and take over.
>>3462936So we have 15 wealth available to purchase power holdings?
>>3462936>Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months). You maytake the Family Heirloom Trait without spending a destiny point. All armour and weapons purchased are superior by default, without the extra cost. (Superior Armour gains +1 AV and -1 Bulk)
>>3462936Is there a way to spend something to get both?
>>3462947If you want to buy Slave Soldiers and Sellswords, yes. Currently, you will be only able to buy Personal Guards, unless you buy the new holdings in the Homebrew
>>3462953You have to invest the expenditure, both prices to get them. You can save up, or transfer resources to different ones (at a loss, cheifly) during Familiy Fortunes.The Valyrian Steelsmith is expensive, but it is massively good. You and all your soldiers will have higher quality armour, and you will have a free Valyrian Weapon.
>>3462969Could you link the home brew?
>>3462936>Secrets of Old Valyria: Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months). You maytake the Family Heirloom Trait without spending a destiny point. All armour and weapons purchased are superior by default, without the extra cost. (Superior Armour gains +1 AV and -1 Bulk)
>>3462973Nvm it’s the same one in the op I just didn’t look at the rest of it
>>3462973Basically, in Essos, standing armies are rare, since they aren't feudal. Therefore, you need to build the infrastructure to house and equip them before you can recruit them, and then take some of your population away to become soldiers. The more militant cities have certain things that bypass this, with some houses in Volantis ignoring the extra costs completely.
>>3462936Spend 5 influence for a Barracks, and 10 on Bank shares.
Valyrian Steel smith makes sense. 1. Its fluffy, Qohor is famous for it, so why not use it to our advantage.2. If were the last bastion of civilization, we definetly want any troops we get to be well armed and armoured.So +1 for the steel smith
>>3462991Influence isn't spent on Barracks, You'd spend 5 power and 5 wealth. But I'll assume thats what you meant.
>>3462936>Secrets of Old Valyria: Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months). You maytake the Family Heirloom Trait without spending a destiny point. All armour and weapons purchased are superior by default, without the extra cost. (Superior Armour gains +1 AV and -1 Bulk)>Temple of the Valyrian Gods, Balerion, Vhagar, Meraxes, and Syranax
>>3462936I kinda want the Dark Arts, since it fits with our backstory of being an old house started with madness, and Barracks so we can recruit some armies. I like the Valirian Steelsmith too, but it would cost all of our money.Vote for: Dark Arts and Barracks
>>3463016Syrax not syranax
>>3463018We won’t have any actual wealth holdings at this rate. Since all of our wealth is being spent on things that will let us spend our power points.
>>3463002Barracks: (5 Power, 5 Wealth) Bank Share: (5/10/20 Wealth).Secrets of Old Valyria: Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth)Thats 30 Wealth, 5 power.>Secrets of Old Valyria: Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months)>Temple of the Valyrian Gods, Balerion, Vhagar, Meraxes, and Syrax (10 Wealth, 12+2d6 months).Thats 25 Wealth.You have 15.Influence is only used where it is listed.>>3462991>>3462974>>3462949>>3462995>>3463016>>3463018>Secrets of Old Valyria: Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months). You maytake the Family Heirloom Trait without spending a destiny point. All armour and weapons purchased are superior by default, without the extra cost. (Superior Armour gains +1 AV and -1 Bulk)Now we move onto power, since you made this easier. You have no holdings that can recruit different soldiers, and no excess wealth, so you can only get Personal Guards, and Banner Houses. Here, banner houses are either offshoot families or literal vassals, that owe their undying loyalty to you. How loyal is another question entirely.
>>3463024Bannerhouse, Elite Personal Guards
>>34630243 units of veteran personal guards.
>>3463039Supporting I guess. These guys are expensive but we can’t exactly recruit anyone else.
>>3463042Aww, no vassal swarm strats. No-ones going for the " I don't fight you, my 4 vassals do that for me" idea.
>>3463024>>3463045We could have 4 banner houses? I say we go for it
>>3463045Gotta deal with their bullshit politics. Hard pass. Plus there is the chance of betrayal, and we’re too poor and weak to take that chance.
>>3463056That would mean we have 4 vassals and no troops, except maybe 1 unit of newbie inexperienced mercenaries. 4 vassals all of which have accesss to more men than us since they can’t have their own banner houses.
>>3463056Yup. Its 20 for the first, then 10, then 5 after that. It would be hilarious, but you'd literally be the bad guy from a bad wrestling show. If the wrestling show involved noble famlies of city states instead of wrestlers.
>>3463063We could control them with politics and clever plots and such
>>3463065We fail 1 roll and we’re completely screwed that way.
>>3463065Just like a heel from a bad wrestling show!
>>3463067Your telling me we have the chance to be Vince Mcmahon in Game of thrones? 1000x supporting this
>>3463066It'll be fine, we're not in Westeros, treacherous vassals aren't as much of a threat as the Dothraki are.
>>3463075Less Vince, more Triple H. Your vassals would literally be D-Generation X
>>3463076They’re even more of a threat. If we fuck up we end up enslaved.
>>3463076Literal city states in Essos, with large banking companies and the cutthroat politics of northern Italy. That shit makes Westeros look like a cuddly hugbox.
Why even buy the Valyrian steel holding with all of our wealth if we’re not gonna get any personal soldiers and just get vassals? Since that only applies to our own soldiers.
>>3463076They swear their fealty to us in exchange for our protection. What the fuck can we protect with literally no army if our vassals decide they don’t feel like listening to us that day? How can we enforce the consequences of not listening to us if we have no army and all of our wealth is tied up in the Valyrian smithing that we are using to equip zero troops?
Okay, so as a GM I have managed to throw a shitton of fuel on this fire. I will summarise >3 Veteran Personal Guards (60 well trained guards,, and able to escort more than just you around to different places (Guests, familiy members etc)>1 Banner House, Elite Personal Guards (The Halfway house, a vassal and some really scary dudes with very good armour and weapons)>4 Banner Houses (My dumbass idea, which leaves you super vulnerable if things go bad, but sitting pretty if things go well)
>>3463099We could have hostages, they could be family. I dunno. >>34631061 banner house to avoid becoming a meme quest. But a guy can still dream
>>3463106I mean, if you want to write up vassal swarm quest be prepared to just end it and deal with literal tons of salt from anons who voted for the idea whenever they fail at something vassal related. Either that, or just ignore dice rolls and chance all together to avoid salty faggots.
>>3463118Votes were tied, either way, so please put your final votes here. I will count up at 10 past the hour.
>>34631063 veteran guards I guess. Banner houses were cancer in the previous game of throne quests
>>34631291 banner house
>>34631063 veteran guards. I don’t want to deal with any banner houses at all until we’ve built up a barracks and an actual standing army. One misstep with the banner house and we’re basically completely fucked, even if it is only 1 banner house.
>>3463106We could also have just 1 Elite Personal Guards and save the rest of our power for when we build the barracks and we can make some proper units
>>3463147I didn’t even think of that. But as it is, we have no wealth, and no wealth holdings that generate wealth. We have 1 Valyrian smithing bonus that does nothing for getting us the required wealth to build a barracks. As cool as it is, we’ve basically fucked ourself by getting it.
>>3463150In these quests, Wealth is one of the principle rewards people get for rp etc, and House Fortunes coem around every month.
>>3463147How about 2 personal guards? 1 to hold the castle, 1 for the city?
>>3463163Sounds good to me, you have my vote
>>3463163I guess this is ok
Okay, so thats 2 units of Elites? 26 power. You have a total of 41 to spend. Hell, you could get 3 units of elites, but if you are saving power no problem.
>>3463186Okay, now that power is solved, we can handle Influence. In the Free Cities, succession of family line is done by Heir selection (As in, the head of house chooses the Heir). So make sure to consider that. You have 15 influence to spend, and are not under Rhoynish law, so standard costs apply.
>>3463207You also only hav 16 Influence to spend. So there is only really one thing, which is a First born Daughter, then another daughter. Or you can save up, and spend this later to help intrigue tests.
>>3463201I guess we can't afford a son yet, so I'd rather save the influence for later
>>3463218If you have a son in play, you don't need to spend anything, btw. But they'll be vulnerable, since they will literally be a baby. If you have daughters, they can inherit, and can actually be older.
Right, it's getting late here and the Captcha is getting annoying, so I'll drop off for now, and pick this up tommorow. Sorry this is taking long, but Homebrew Rules ontop of an already long process, then rolling the literal maximum number of Familiy History events. I'll see you all tomorrow, probably around 1900 BST.
Here is a summary, just before I go.40/46 Defense15/31 Influence 22/22 Lands36 Law -1 to House Fortunes26 Population +1 to house Fortunes26/41 Power35/35 Wealth Enclave: An entire section of the city put aside for your family and their operations. Surrounding a large palace, enclosed with walls, with separate gates to gain entry, and including artisans, taverns and merchants not even contracted to your family. Only the most powerful families can afford these.Small Castle: A small castle is simply a smaller version of a standard castle. It usually has no more than a single keep, perhaps two towers and a wall. Examples of small castles include Bronzegate, Honeyholt, and Yronwood. Hills, Hamlet, and Road: Eastern Border of Qohor, far side of the forest. Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months). You may take the Family Heirloom Trait without spending a destiny point. All armour and weapons purchased are superior by default, without the extra cost. (Superior Armour gains +1 AV and -1 Bulk) 2 Units of Elite Personal Guard w/Upgraded Armour and Weapons
>>3463207could we have a brother or sister we can marry off? I don't wanna waste influence on a daughter, especially if it locks our character out of a marriage alliance.
>>3463282Supporting this.Plus going bachelor means we have a chance at acquiring a Lysene bride if you know what I'm saying
>>3463288But a Lysene bride isn't a spicy Dornish waifu.
>>3463254Hmm, by our holdings we mostly collect rents tolls and make good weapons. We need to change this as soon and diversify our sources of wealth.
>>3463318It's why we need to get married, make a marriage alliance and some money, and translate that money into a barracks that we can use to form a standing army. Then use that standing army to annex weaker rivals.
>>3463294>>3463329Dornish harlots ain't shit. Gimme valyrian featured lysene nymphos
>>3463391You can get Valyrian features and blood from a volantian woman, and their is the bonus that she would bring wealth and experience soldiers.
>>3463254Late to the party I know but I'd be pretty keen on third unit of elite Personal Guard. They are tough sons of bitches and who knows how long it will be before we get the holdings to spend additional power. Also seconding the suggestion of going bachelor with a sibling or two closely involved in the qst.
Start as bachelor, but have a bastard daughter.How many siblings do we have? I want at least one qt sister eligible for divine blood marriage.If possible, our family should have a few Valyrian weapons, enough for our siblings. As for our religion, worshipping the old gods of Valyria makes sense given how old we are.
While I'm upset I missed the start of this creation, I'm thrilled we got Qohor. Easily my favourite free city. Exotic, and on the edge of the civilized world. Now the fact we own a large part of the city suggests we were once very rich and powerful, but our current holdings dont lean to that beside our enclave and our valyrian steel smith. (Although that is definitely something very prestigious and lucrative). We will also need to work on increasing our power, the sooner the better. We have 60 guards for our enclave and small castle. Well equipped and deadly as they might be, that's not alot of men. Plus a better source of income, and influence for a proper male heir seems fitting. Lots of work to be done there.As for trade, lots of caravans go to Vaes Dothrak, and well as further east to places like Yi Ti. Told would be a very solid and fluffy choice as soon as we can. Lastly, I also agree with going with being a bachelor. It will let us aquire a dowry, trade and possibly even an army. My suggestions for a bride would be either Qohorik, Volantene or Norvosi, as they are the closest cities. My personal leaning would be within Qohor itself but that's obviously something to be decided upon. Lastly, if we helped found the city of Qohor, we'd likely be worshippers of the Black Goat. The city founders were runaways mainly due to their religion, so I'm not sure if worshipping the old valyrian gods make sense. Although there are mentions of a temple of Rhollor in Qohor as well, so maybe I'm out to lunch. Either way, looking forward to finishing our "house" and looking forward to the quest. Good to see you back Sandy!!
>>3464059Nah fuck the black goat. That shits gay.
>>3464261Our conversion to Rhollor could actually explain why our influence has waned? Plus there is only one true God after all, and the night is dark and full of terror
I am up for Black Goat
What time is it in the world
>>3464280 284 AC
>>3464252>not being a knock off Satanist Great goat is based, also solidly miffed I missed generation looks like we have a rather great start
>>3464265If we were to become a follower of Rhollor. What would cause us to do something like that?I could understand if we married a woman who was and we converted. But that would mean we dont start as single
>>3464583The books say that there are followers of the red God in Qohor. Maybe our family converted awhile ago? Or maybe we still worship the black goat? I'm pretty fine with either to be honest
Valyrian gods. We’d get to do our thing, and be pope of dragons and shit.
>>3464651Think the worship has pretty much ceased to exist outside the outskirts of Old Valyria
Valyrian gods would give us a lot of flexibility too. Excuses to experiment in whatever we want to do when it comes to magic, dragon eggs, and fiery sacrifices. We could do all the interesting things that black goat and rhllor people do, and make up the strictures as we go since there’s not much in the lore about the Valyrian gods.
>>3464654it's still common among old blood Volantenes
I’m down for Valyrian gods. I think our characters are exiles from old Valyria anyway, it would make sense to bring our gods with us.
>>3464651>>3464655Honestly not a fan of the commonality of Valyrian shit and its need to be in almost every ASOIAF RPG game.I'd rather see and be a part of a diffrent part of the world
>>3464663Our house is older than Valyria, so I think it would be cool if we worshiped the black goat
>>3464655Theres not much about the scriptures and laws about the black goat either...Voting for Satan
We need the black goat. Why else did we choose Qohor instead of Tyrosh?
>>3464810Because people dont actually know that much about the free cities. One even thought Qohor was near the coast.I would personally have prefered something like Lys, Volantis or Myr
>>3464820Unfortunately the die is cast and we are in Qohor
Qohor is the gateway to the true east by land. We have sorcerers and blood magic galore. The last city with knowledge of how to reshape valyrian steel. There is some great potential for exploring new avenues in ASoIaF that we havent been able to in previous quests
Okay, I'm back. We were on Influence spending. Do you want pre-existing children (Which would have to be daughters), or be not only a bachelor, but an heirless bachelor. Having heirs means you are secure, but will need to make marriages lickedy split. Being heirless makes you vulnerable to people wanting to end your line, but you can marry people. Being "The Last Dragonlord" has a ring to it... even if you don't have dragons.
>>3464945Heirless bachelor, we'll find our waifu in the game
>>3464945Bachelor with children from concubine.
>>3464953>Heirless bachelor, we'll find our waifu in the game+1
>>3464945A bastard daughter
>>3464956>>3464963Either of these
Bachelor mode with some kids from concubines.
Daughter>>3465033>>3464964>>3464963>>3464956No daughter>>3464953>>3464958>>3464991You being unmarried is perfectly fine.Okay, so one daughter will be 10 Influence, 2 will be a total of 15. >1 Daughter>2 Daughters
>>3465044You have 16 Influence to spend.
>Could've gotten a blood mage >Went with Valyrian steel reforging>Feelsbadman.pngNot all bad I suppose, we have a pretty great start and can always pick that up later. >>3465044One daughter there Sandman.
>>3465062>>3465051>>3465050>>3465047Right, with that, Family Creation is done. Here is the full Family.40/46 Defense25/31 Influence 22/22 Lands36 Law -1 to House Fortunes26 Population +1 to house Fortunes26/41 Power35/35 Wealth Enclave: An entire section of the city put aside for your family and their operations. Surrounding a large palace, enclosed with walls, with separate gates to gain entry, and including artisans, taverns and merchants not even contracted to your family. Only the most powerful families can afford these.Small Castle: A small castle is simply a smaller version of a standard castle. It usually has no more than a single keep, perhaps two towers and a wall. Examples of small castles include Bronzegate, Honeyholt, and Yronwood. Hills, Hamlet, and Road: Eastern Border of Qohor, far side of the forest. Valyrian Steelsmith (15 Wealth, 2d6 Months). You may take the Family Heirloom Trait without spending a destiny point. All armour and weapons purchased are superior by default, without the extra cost. (Superior Armour gains +1 AV and -1 Bulk) 2 Units of Elite Personal Guard, with upgraded Armour and Weapon Damage1 Daughter
>>3465073Next, is character creation. Are you a boy or a girl?>Boy>Girl.
>>3465074>BoyInstead of the standard combat build, I say focus in on intrigue and money-making abilities.
Here are some Qhorik male names.Vargo, TobhoMeralyn, Mero, Moredo, MyrmelloAreo, Byan, Ollo, Daario, Collio, Moreo, Roro, Tregar, Ordello, Illyrio, Groleo
>>3465076>>3465078>>3465079>>3465085>Boy>How old are you?>Young Adult (14-18)>Adult (18-30)>Middle Age (30-50)>Old (50-70)>Very Old (70-80)>Venerable (80+)The older you are, the more XP you have, but caps are placed upon your attributes, more drawbacks have to be taken. Also, you have fewer Destiny points, and can take fewer benefits.
>>3465103I quite like the idea of a young, viserys like 'last dragonlord'. Silver haired, impetuous, ambitious and full of energy. I could, though, also go for a more experienced veteran of intrigue, middle aged and well prepared.
>>3465107Just feel like the older we are the more odd that we arent married it will be
>>3465103Fine with me
Torgho nor-Qorik> Adult, 22 Years old
Adult. This gives you 210 Ability Experience, with a maximum starting rank of 7. All Abilities start at 2, and 1 can be lowered to 1 to give +50 Xp. Increases cost as listed in the post on the age vote. Post your suggested builds below, and we'll hash one out.
>>3465141Agility - 3Animal Handling - 3Athletics - 3Awareness - 4Cunning - 4Deception - 4Endurance - 3Fighting - 3Healing - 2Knowledge - 3Language (Qohorik) - 3Language (???) - 2Marksmanship - 2Perusaion - 4Status - 4Stealth - 2Survival - 2Theivery - 1Warfare - 2Will - 3(I'm assuming the status is free?) We're going to need to know another language besides Qohorik. And I know we get a free valyrian weapon, but I don't know how martial alot of the free cities noblemen are. Makes more sense to me to go with a more intrigue based character.
>>3465172We should probably know Low Valyrian and whatever it is now called.
>>3465172Alternatively, if we want less of a jack of all trades. Agility - 2Animal Handling - 2Athletics - 2Awareness - 4Cunning - 4Deception - 4Endurance - 3Fighting - 2Healing - 2Knowledge - 3Language (Qohorik) - 3Marksmanship - 2Perusaion - 5Status - 4Stealth - 2Survival - 2Theivery - 1Warfare - 2Will - 4Languages are fairly easy to pick up, getting the rudimentary ability with only 10 EXP. Additionally, looking at the Polyglot benefit would have massive potential in this quest. Being able to speak and read in a language while only investing 10 experience is HUGE.
>>3465172>>3465189It would be cool if we knew Dothraki too, since we have a castle right on the border
>>3465172Correct, similar to how most quests run, I am indeed keeping Status be to at the natural cap without xp spend. It makes no sense that to be a Lord makes you worse at the things a Lord would need to be good at.
>>3465217>>3465198Okay, since this has 2 votes, this is what we'll go with. A focus on intrigue and persuasion, relying on your very well equipped Personal Guard to keep you alive.Next is Specialties. You have 80xp for these, and they cost 10 per specialty.See >>3465141 for the list of specialties.
>>3465141Agility 3Animal Handling 3Athletics 3Awareness 3Cunning 4Deception 2Endurance 4Fighting 5Healing 2Knowledge 2Language (Qohorik, Valyrian)Marksmanship 2Persuasion 3Status 3Stealth 2Survival 2Thievery 1Warfare 4Will 3This is a good spread if we want to get married, and quickly leverage that dowry into a powerbase of soldiers to expand.
>>3465189Low Valyrian is a catch-all term for the various tongues of the Free Cities.
>>3465271Supporting this. I want to not suck at fighting.
>>3465268God fucking dammit, I missed my chance by 13 fucking seconds?
>>3465268I don't want to be the only person posting here, but fuck it. Awareness - 1 NoticeCunning - 1 Decipher, 1 LogicDeception - 1 BluffKnowledge - 1 StreetwisePersuasion - 1 Bargain, 2 Charm
Can we reopen the vote on our starting character?
>>3465283Supporting.>>3465278You can go to literally any other of the GoT quests if you want a main character good at fighting. I feel it's much more interesting to go full intrigue for once especially in a unique setting. We have the personal guards to protect our ass and they're very good at their job.
>>3465278>>3465281We're not in westeros though. And Qohor is defended by unsullied, so why would we be good at fighting? Besides, if were going to be focusing on marriage pacts and the like, we need to be good at influencing people and not getting assassinated.
>>3465281I did let it run for 40 minutes, on an active thread. I'll see if there is any more support beyond >>3465278, and if there is we may look at it again. I will say though, this is not Westeros. You can't simply attack and conquer fellow Families land if you feel you can.
>>3465292That doesn’t mean we should fucking be a literal child in a fight.
>>3465290There are no other GoT quests. And these dialog/intrigue quests die out fucking fast. In addition, Qohor still holds tournaments, and winning or placing in them is a good way to make money.
>>3465283Supporting, we don't have to be a fighter
>>3465298Ability 2 means we're no better than the average person at fighting. Plus, this is why we have 3 units of ridiculously well armed, armoured and trained guards. At least one unit probably follows us absolutely everywhere we go.
>>3465315If we were gonna make a character like this why would we go for the Valyrian smithing? It’s a waste of a holding at this point. Unless QM magically lets us just get good at fighting and command somehow, it’s a complete waste. We should just trade it in for an actual wealth generating holding if we are gonna play this character.
>>3465283+1 no need to be a fighter this time>>3465310QM will another GoT quest tomorrow. MC is pretty handy with a spear.
>>3465324There’s a good reason that quest is dead
>>3465320The valyrian smithing lets us equip our power holdings with superior equipment, plus it's fluffy. We can be a conniving, prince Viserys-esque bastard who convinces others to do his fighting and dirty work for him. Additionally, we've had a few good fighters in GOT quests, notably House Grallner, and currently House Reynold. Why not change it up for once?
>Young Adult (14-18)No flaws and Max destiny points. Count me in.
>>3465328Well that's kinda rude. I was going to continue arguing but it's clear at this point that you just have shit taste.
>>3465335Except viserys is a dead shitbag. We will end up the same way if we can’t even defend ourself. Even with this bodyguard
>>3465320>Unless QM magically lets us just get good at fighting and command somehowOr you know let us hire someone that will be good at it.
>>3465344Lissara is a stupid meme thanks to retards like you.
>>3465348Calm down dude, don't lose your shit every time the vote doesn't go your way
>>3465348>What is Daenarys?>What is Varys?>What is Tyrion?There are a plethora of characters who can't defend themselves who play the game and thrive.
Okay, so this >>3465283 has plenty of votes. We'll take this. Now we need to choose Benefits and Drawbacks. You gain Heirloom for free, so can take up to 3, costing 1 destiny point each. You also need 1 drawback, but can take more to regain destiny points.
>>3465349That will work great with our zero wealth. We won’t be able to hire anyone competent, unless we magically marry a Volantene old blood Valyrian warrior princess somehow.
>>3465366Well, Eidetic memory, and charismatic seem good for this character I guess.
QM, are we going to be doing complex intrigues? Or things like dispositions and the like affecting persuasion rolls?
>>3465377There will be a fair deal of complexity, but the intrigue system and intrigue combat is dumb and doesn't really work. So most of it will be a mix of decisions and rolls, with good rolls leading to better choices, or more information.
>>3465367Ha! That the spirit! We will do just that.
>>3465366I'm voting for charismatic and magnetic. We'll get all of the companions and followers that way.I'm iffy on going for eidetic memory or polyglot. Leaning towards polyglot but I'll leave it to the will of the people.
>>3465366Lucky, because we will need it, Charismatic, for obvious reasons, and Cohort to get a competent, loyal, right hand man or maybe the concubine mother of our bastard daughter who is good at things we are shit at.
Qualities to consider:>Polyglot (so we can learn those languages baby)>Adept Negotiator (for better neogtiating skills with people who don't like us)>Cadre ( gaining 10 guards for free who are for sure loyal to use can't hurt) unsullied?>Expertise (An extra dice somewhere never hurts)> Keen senses (for staying alive in a murderous place like essos) > Treacherous (because why not)and also charismatic and magnetic work well for us. Personally, I'm leaning towardsPolyglot, Cadre and Charismatic
>>3465366Polyglot, Courteous and Charismatic
>>3465366Hardy (to boost our poor fighting and health) CharismaticBlood of Valyria
>>3465403Fuck, I forgot cohort was a things. Sounds perfect to be our swordyboi.>>3465401>>3465366Going with charismatic, magnetic, and cohort instead.Charismatic and magnetic will allow us to leverage our charm to the max while cohort will give us someone to shore up our flaws. Most likely the captain of our personal guard.>>3465407Why go for cadre when we already have two units of elite personal guard? I figure a cohort that can actually lead our men and make use of our heirloom weapon would be great.
>>3465366Charismatic, Lucky, Head for numbers.
>>3465366>Polyglot, Cohort and Charismatic
Okay Charismatic seems very popular, so we'll lock that in. I'll wait a bit more then grab a few that have multiple votes, and put them to an organised final vote.
>>3465417Swordygirl. She is our bastard daughters momma. Also I think going the meme option of Third Eye, Cohort(Baby Dragon or dragon egg), and Third Eyed Opened could be really fucking cool.
>>3465426No dragons. Flat rule there.
>>3465426Fuck it. Baby Dragon cohort, or dragon egg that we can hatch, is my vote. Because dragons.
>>3465417Cadre is 10 men, cohort is 1. I just figured with our lack of soldiers, the more the merrier. But I'm definitely down with Cohort.But yeah I'll change my vote to Charismatic, Cohort and Polyglot
Charismatic, Polygot and Third Eye
>>3465434Inb4 we warg into a banan slug and can’t get back out
>>3465432This sounds good to me too, I'll change my vote to Charismatic, Cohort and Polyglot
>>3465418Supporting Lucky and head for numbers. Optimal money-making build. Since money is power.
>>3465424Changing to cohort and head for numbers. Head for numbers could be REALLY powerful for us.
>>3465423>Polyglot, Cohort and Charismaticto>Head for numbers, Cohort and Charismatic
Charasmatic is there by popular demand.Polyglot, Cohort, Third Eye, Head for Numbers are the most popular options. You can have 2 of these.>Polyglot>Cohort>Third Eye>Head for Numbers
>>3465447Changing from this shit to Charismatic, Head for Numbers, Cohort. Maybe our cohort can be the lucky one.
>>3465447>>3465456>>3465462We can't take head for numbers seeing as we don't have a bonus die in stewardship.
>>3465424While having an ally is nice, armies are nicer, supporting >>3465447
>>3465468>>3465464I will allow a Specialty to be shifted to allow it.
>>3465464Cohort, Head for Shekels.
>>3465464>Cohort>Head for NumbersCohort should be first pick as it gives us a loyal subordinate that can pick up the slack in warfare for us. They'll keep us safe and can use our free heirloom weapon.Head for Numbers is just an amazing benefit when it comes to making coin. Coin is vastly more important in the Free Cities.>>3465468We should switch one out and grab a point in stewardship anyway. We need to make fat stacks if we want to hire the mercenaries needed for war.
>>3465464changing to this>>3465475
>>3465464Can we take 2x cohorts?
>>3465464Cohort. Head for numbers. Shift one bonus die from Knowledge streetwise to stewardship.
>>3465467>>3465472You wouldn't happen to be that Indonesian gentleman from the last house generation we did would you? Seems like an awful lot of same fagging going on
>>3465479We can probably earn one later.
>>3465479Yes, you can.
>>3465481What? Indonesian? Just because people switch votes and don’t vote the way you want doesn’t make it samefagging.
>>3465475Or we could use our money, and have our money make sweet love with other money to multiply. Then we can build a barracks and holdings for standing armies.
>>3465472>>3465489No, but the two same ID's posting the exact same views for the entire thread within minutes of each other does. But if you say your not, I'll assume your genuine.
>>3465464>Cohort>Head for Numbers
>>3465499Whatever. I don’t give a fuck what you think. If you want people to vote your way, come up with good reasoning like >>3465475 this guy.
>>3465516It doesn't matter to me regardless. Head for numbers is a wicked benefit. Just pointing out what I'm noticing. Regardless of what we end up choosing, our cohort should either have Polyglot or Head for Numbers because those two benefits combined will definitely make for far easier trading between the free cities, and allow us to negotiate better, and rake in wealth.
Okay Head for Numbers and Cohort win. Once we have finished making the PC, there'll be a vote on the character type you want, and I'll make a suitable character, to save time. Now we need 1 Drawback. You can take more, and each one will give you 1 destiny point. You cannot have more Drawbacks than Benefits.
>>3465540Mute. We are the most suave, charismatic, and convincing man who can’t speak.
Haughty makes sense for us, (Take -1D on awareness tests involving empathy, and starting disposition must be dislike or worse to people who breach protocol or custom) as does Supreme Arrogance ( Take a penalty equal to your status on all awareness tests)
>>3465535Also, seeing as head for numbers won, I vote we swap Cunning - 1 Decipher for the required Status - 1 Stewardship.
>>3465540I'd like Bound by the Bottle as haughty doesn't make much sense for a man with a bastard. We could always have an negative relationship with her but that'll likely lead to problems down the road
>>3465540>Crippled. But we have kick-ass cane
>>3465540Haughty and Fear (I'd really like to take Polyglot, that's why I'm taking 2 drawbacks)
>>3465573Not technically a bastard since it is by a concubine.
>>3465576Crippled would also be good imo.
>>3465540Haughty>>3465572I think swapping streetwise 1b would be better for us. Our cohort can do the streetwise and knowledge thing.
>>3465577>>3465579Could do both? Reel in polyglot, when combined with our other benefits would make us a serious character. A man who is intelligent, of noble blood and is very charismatic. But he was crippled in some way, hence why he can't fight. That caused him to become arrogant to anyone who were beneath him, because of his own insecurities at being crippled. This in turn led him to focusing on knowledge as he made his way in the world.
>>3465597Really do not want cripple. We are not married yet, we need to be healthy enough to have kids
>>3465597That would be taken with roleplay at a later date.
>>3465600I can get behind this.
>>3465600How about swap crippled for haunted? I just do not want crippled at all.
>>3465592Yeah we could ditch streetwise. Having a gritty cohort sounds tight. >>3465601And no reason we can't have kids. We could just be like Willas Tyrell, can't walk well or something along those lines.
>>3465600>>3465608How about Disturbing Habit instead of Crippled? I'm not sure what the habit could be though.
>>3465617Why is polyglot so important? Being able to learn languages is cool and all, but we can do that through later character development. After all our guy is only like 19. Plenty of time to learn, especially for someone as cunning and persuasive as him.
>>3465620Crunchwise it hinders our ability to use any persuasion outside of intimidate.
>>3465620I'm honestly less down with taking a second flaw now that we know benefits can't be immediately taken for some arbitrary reason. Haughty looks locked in though.
>>3465620He shitposts on 4chan
>>3465625Having it at the start just saves us a ton of experience, because we only need to invest 10 experience to be able to speak and read the language, rather than 70 other wise. And in westeros it doesn't really matter, but in the free cities where every city has their own language, it could be extremely useful. Thats my logic
>>3465620He writes hit pieces on other families and post them on public boards at night
>>3465639We don't get it at the start though. We have to earn Polyglot through the game and then use a destiny point for it. I'd be all for Polyglot if we could get it in character-creation but it seems like an unwise investment to me without that.
>>3465643Oh god no wonder he’s so persuasive. He has to be to convince them he was only shitposting so they don’t come down on his ass like a ton of bricks. JUST A PRANK BRO
>>3465645I suppose sticking with just Haughty would be alright
>>3465645I agree if we don't get benefit at the same time as disadvantage. We should just stick with Haughty
>>3465645I think the reason behind it is your not allowed to have more than 3 starting benefits. Correct me if I'm prying QM, but in all likelyhood would we be able to snag a benefit reasonably early on? Because if we are I'd like to take two drawbacks to be able to snag polyglot quickly. If not, (or thats meta gaming to much) lets just take haughty.
>>3465656I agree with haughty, even though IRL shitposter could be fun. But then again, it might be pretty crippling too.
>>3465648He convince them he didn't write them, even when he signed them up.
>>3465659You'd be able to take it if you dedicated some time to it. I'd say at least 2 house fortunes. However, Haughty has plenty of votes, so we'll take that. Fits for someone who can draw an unbroken line back to Valyria.Right, now it's just name of the character and Familiy Name. If someone wants to come up with a symbol for the house, feel free, but it's not essential, since Essos doesn't really go for the whole Coat of Arms outside sellswords and the whole cities.Here is the Final Character sheet. I am moving Streetwise as the specilty for stewardship, since that got the most votes. In 15 mins, I'll put up a vote about the Cohort.Also, please vote for which specialty of Persuasion Charismatic applies to, either Charm or Bargin>Charm>bargin
>>3465684Also, please choose what your Heirloom is (I am adding to the Char sheet now, but need to know what it is).I will be adding some options.>Weapon (What Weapon)>Dragon Egg>Armour (What Armour)
>>3465684Uhhhh charm. Can we get persuasion again later and apply it to bargain?
>>3465691Valyrian Steel Full Plate. Who cares if we suck at fighting if we are invulnerable to damage.
>>3465684>Charm>Weapon (Valyrian sword)
>>3465693You can get Charismatic again and apply it to Bargin.
>>3465684Fair enough. >BargainI think we will need help with bargain a little more than charm because we have the extra bonus die in charm. Also, could our heirloom be a book about how to reforge valyrian steel instead of the steel itself?
>>3465701Nah, you have a steelsmith who knows how to do it, who is sworn to your family. You can't teach forging with a book.
>>3465699A suit of Valyrian Steel platemail is better. We can’t fight for shit, and this will help keep our big brain and silver tongue attached to the rest of our body.
>>3465706Can we learn to forge it from him? Maybe in free time when we aren’t hustling like the wolf of Wall Street?
>>3465707I don't see our guy ever actually getting into combat, the sword is there mostly to impress people
>>3465691>Armour (Valyrian Steel Full Plate)
>>3465710It takes about 5 years to become a normal smith, a further 3 to learn how to forge weapons and armour. Then we add learning near magic into the process.
>>3465706Alright fair play. I just thought maybe we could work it that was how we got our valyrian steel smith, and why ours was best. In lieu of that, how about some valyrian chainmail? Like Bilbos coat of Mithril? Light as a feather, stronger than steel. We could wear it under our every day clothes to prevent any daggers in the back.
>>3465711Same, but it’s impressive as hell to have that much Valyrian steel. Plus we would look cool as heck
>>3465719I like this a lot actually. Full-plate is cool but having a good set of Valyrian chain-mail to wear under our formal clothing could save our lives from assassination attempts.
>>3465691EggWill we eventually be able to hatch it?I wanted pet dragon and how to third eye and shit but nobody else did.
>>3465711you can't really impress people with crossbow bolt sticking out of your chest
>>3465721Yeah, but we wouldn't be wearing armor in most normal circumstances, but we could have a sword with us pretty much always
>>3465725A suit of Valyrian platemail could be reforged into like 4 suits of Valyrian chainmail
>>3465725That’s what our concubine cohort and our bodyguards are for. They protect us.
>>3465740They aren't protecting us from a surprise crossbow bolt though. Plus it gives the illusion that we're so confident in our safety we don't even need to wear armor (that anyone can see). Could combine nicely with haughty.
Okay, so Bargin clearly won, so I'll apply it there.Also, Valyrian Full Plate has the most votes. A WORD OF WARNING!This is a Family Heirloom, and while your Cohort may have this as well, attempting to reforge it into something new without significant roleplay reasons (As in, I have denounced my whole familiy identity, Tyrion killing Tywin levels) beyond "I want lots of suits of chainmaille" will not be allowed.As for the Cohort, I will run a few votes here to work out the sort of character people want. This will be general build, not the actual identity, more the role this person serves.>Courtier>Bodyguard>Commander>Merchant>Spy/Assassin
>>3465735You want to reforge our family's heirloom? Seem a bit in bad taste in my opinion. We also can't wear the full-plate to formal functions where it would obviously be out of place whereas the chain-mail can be worn everywhere.
>>3465753>CommanderShe protecc, she attacc, but most importantly, she succ
>>3465753>bodyguardA tough, gritty eunuch, along the lines of Strong Belwas. Preferably foreign and not Qohorik.
>>3465760Supporting. We are Valyrian. Although it seems weird to make her only a concubine, but she’s probably smart enough to realize our family needs a marriage alliance and dowry.
>>3465763There was 2-2-1 spread between Glorious Platemail, Shitty Chain faggotry, and Meme Dragon egg
>>3465780Still tied but I misread the votes so I deleted my earlier post. Platemail is good but isn't as good as chain that we can wear everywhere instead of just on the battlefield. This isn't westeros where most combat will be on the battlefield but rather essos where assassinations are in vogue.
>>3465780You mean impractical, can't wear to balls or formal functions, cant get out of by yourself to take a shit platemail, easily hidden and practical chainmail we can wear anywhere and everyday, and meme dragon egg?
>>3465783But we can make chain so much easier, and heirloom is to show off not hide under clothes
>>3465760Supporting I guess. We’re gonna have to hope we marry a Volantene warrior woman of the tiger faction for a commander now.
>>3465780>>3465784Don't forget a vote for a cool sword which we could carry around and appear to be not a total wimp
>>3465783Since I did miscount, I'll post the stats for both.Valyrian Full Plate 12AR, -5 Armour Penalty, 2 BulkValyrian Mail 7AR, -2 Penalty, 1 Bulk
>>3465760sure I will switch
>>3465790Obviously whoever we marry is gonna have to be just as Valyrian as our character. But a concubine/bodyguard would have an excuse to be around us at all times.
>>3465795Fine. Switch to platemail. We have bodyguards and concubine for protection, as well as our own smooth talking
>>3465795Hard Yes for Valyrian mail, provided we can wear it under our robes n shit.
>>3465795Could we hold a run-off for either chainmail or full-plate? Chain has less AR but we can actually use it to ward off assassination attempts unlike full-plate.
>>3465760Yes, YES. THIS IS THE TRUE OPTION, JUST LIKE AEGON WOULD WANT
>>3465814That’s what we have bodyguards and concubine for
>>3465811No, Valyiran just makes it lighter and easier to move in, not smaller than a large coat of maille, that needs padding underneath to work. Valyrian steel is more like modern steel/titanium, than mithril
>>3465825Ah, fuck that then. Let's go for fullplate.
>>3465795>Full PlateMay as well go the whole way I think
Yeah if we can't go bilbos mithril lets full plate it up.
>>3465829We can make sure our character has a badass son who can wear it. We just gotta wheel and deal and build up a powerbase for our son to go empire building with.
>>3465784>easily hidden and practical chainmail we can wear anywhere and everyday>>3465825>NoI laugh at you
>>3465836Speaking of empire building, there's a lot of free land to the east which we could colonize when we have some money
>>3465851Money and manpower. Just need a good general, unsullied pikemen, and really good archers to BTFO of the Dothraki retards.
>BodyguardThis means there will be a focus on being a straight up fighter, direct, 1v1/1vMany combatant, with good awareness. I'm guessing people want her to be a concubine (She won't be your sister, you'd be married for that to work). If this is not true, speak now.Please indicate what sort of fighting style you want your Bodyguard to use.>1 Handed weapon and Shield (The standard, defensive mixed with offense)>Spear and Shield (More common in Essos, a focus on warding away)>Greatsword/Greataxe/Bludgeon (Aggression and one shot kills)>Daggers (Quick, close range, but can be subtler)Armour>Heavy (Immoveable object)>Medium (The Middle ground, harder to hit, but able to take one if necessary)>Light (A focus on avoding being hit, rather than absorbing blows)
>>3465851Yeah, just deal with the Dothraki hordes, and you'll be fine.
>>3465870>1 Handed weapon and Shield (The standard, defensive mixed with offense)>Heavy (Immoveable object)Let's keep it simple for our bg/gf
>>3465870>1 Handed weapon and Shield (The standard, defensive mixed with offense)>Medium (The Middle ground, harder to hit, but able to take one if necessary)This seems like a nice safe option
>>3465870>Greataxe (Aggression and one shot kills)>Heavy (Immoveable object)
>>3465870>Greatsword/Greataxe/Bludgeon (Aggression and one shot kills)>Heavy (Immoveable object)Bring me the greatest terror in the world. The Mountain With Tits
>>3465888Supporting. Perhaps she could even be a dothraki.
>>3465876Qohor pays tribute to the Dothraki, right? So they wouldn't attack us if we spread to the east a bit?
>>3465896>Dothraki>ArmorYou can only pick one. And Dothraki women aren’t allowed to learn to fight period.
>>3465870Spear and shield. Medium Armor.I don't have a problem with her being out concubine, but as a twist, she should be scarred up, or be one of those warrior women with rings in their nipples and rubies in their cheeks.
>>3465896>Dothraki bodyguard concubine Sir this is a fine idea now that you put it that way>>3465888Supporting wholeheartedly
>>3465903Well there's a reason why she's in our service and not a part of the hordes.
Oh she wouldn't be Dothraki. She'd be from a bit beyond that, if you go for Greatsword and Heavy.https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Kayakayanaya
>>3465870>Spear>One handedLet’s get a Lyseni bodyguard who knows how to handle our Greatsword as well as her own body in battle.
>>3465922I meant to put in Spear and Medium armor. But the line about her handling our Greatsword and her body in battle stays the same.
>>3465921Oh fuck yes, this instead. I'd prefer Greataxe but I'm all for an exotic amazon musclegirl GF.
>>3465930Well, greataxe, greatsword, 2 handed weapon.
>>3465921Also, it's the birthplace of Azor Ahai.
Could we have her be a non amazon? That just makes it too obvious that she’s a bodyguard. I thought part of the point was for her to blend in or not be taken seriously, and then surprise enemies when she’s actually really skilled fighter.
>>3465921Titty piercing GF lads. Supporting this.
Closing the vote in 5 minutes, at 20 minutes past.
>>3465921Alright I'll support it>>3465941Where was that mentioned?
>>3465941That would be an assassin archetype
Right, Heavy Armour and a 2-handed weapon clearly win here.What 2 handed weapon? (I have shown the difference between the 3 2-handed bludgeons)>Greatsword>Longaxe>Flail (More Damaging than a Maul, needs more training)>Maul (Able to knock people around, make them slower, do less in combat)>Warhammer (Destroys Armour better, but does less damage again)>Halberd>Boar Spear
>>3465985Clearly we need to collect a Valyrian assassin waifu or concubine.
>>3465986>>Flail (More Damaging than a Maul, needs more training)
>>3465986>GreatswordCan't go wrong there, alternatively>Halberd
>>3465986Could you tell us what the differences between these weapons are mechanics wise?
> Duel Wielding Longswords (Yi Ti Tai Chi Swords like "Green Destiny")> Light Armour (Mobility Focus like a Wuxia Hero)Our Concubine knows Kung Fu and is from Yi Ti.
>>3466012>Highest-Lowest Damage>Greatsword=Longaxe=Flail=Halberd>Boar Spear=Maul>WarhammerGreatswords and Longaxes have to kill people in a single hit.Flails, Mauls, and Warhammers destory Armour and shields. Warhammers do it bestMauls knock people around so they can't take as many actions in combat.Greatsword has won. So with that, I'll start making the character, and will post the sheet once I'm done. Feel free to work on the fluff, etc. I'll be back in around 20-40 minutes.
>>3466034I mean fluff for your character. As in the Qohorik noble. I am making the fluff for the Cohort.
Shit.... missed the vote....
>>3466029Our character is the last surviving member of an ancient Valyrian house. Exiled generations ago, due to his great grandfathers heresy against the Valyrian gods when he converted to Rhllor. The family lost most of their wealth on their journey to Qohor, as well as soon after. Once there, after the old man died, our characters grandfather, seeing his families misfortune, began to follow the old ways and the Valyrian gods once again. They blessed him with the knowledge of working Valyrian steel. Through hard work, some blood and battle, and good fortune, he and his son managed to expand their wealth, and properties, until they managed to carve out an enclave for themselves within Qarth, as well as a small castle they built outside of the city. Then, misfortune struck the family once again when, in his insanity, our characters father got himself, and several retainers killed trying to tame a dragon, despite not being a combat, magic, or animal oriented person. Our character has received a through education in money, bargaining, and speech, as well as his natural charisma and stature as the Old Blood of Valyria. But despite this, he controls little influence, and limited wealth outside of the family holdings. He has a natural way with words and with women. He even managed to make a huge, exotic, warrior woman into his devoted concubine through his skill with his Greatsword. He is devoted to the gods, and to gaining the wealth and power he haughtily thinks he deserves.
>>3466067This could work with some edits. You predate Qohor by a good long time. Your founding in Madness predates Qohor by a good thousand years. When it comes to fluff I will take the suggestions, see what is most liked, and bring it together into something that works, if there isn't a clear story, or a preferred option has problems with it.
>>3466072I tried to make the fluff fit our house events, misfortune, and our characters traits. I left out specifics on purpose because I figure other people can write that in, or you could edit it to fit.
Our family has resided in the forests of Qohor for thousands of years. We had once been of Old Valyria, of the true and most noble bloodline. Eventually however, our connection to Valyria began to wane when a member of our family had gone been exiled as the only member of his family who could not ride a dragon. The shame of it drove him ad, and he became lived a hermetic existance in the castle the family had owned near the dothraki sea for generations(Madness). We were there when the City of Sorcerers was nothing but a humble lumber camp, and when the followers of the Black Goat came to the forest, our ancestors converted, eager to gain favour and perhaps implement themselves as the rulers of the foundling city. Eventually, our power and the like grew, and we commanded armies to defeat a Valyrian attempt to bring what would become Qohor back under their sway.(Victory) Using our new found influence, our family expanded our holdings inside the new city.
>>3466100Supporting only because I want to follow the Black Goat.
>>3466100I will support if you remove the Black goat and add Valyrian gods.
>>3466109Or if our character has broken with tradition and now worships the gods of old Valyria. Black Goat is just lame.
>>3466100Supporting this>>3466113Your face is just lame
>>3466067>>3466100>>3466107>>3466109Why not be the godliest of all men and worship many? The Black Goat in public in lands, the Valyrian gods in private, and a few others like R'hlor and more. Why should the greatness of Valyria be so constrained to the worship of one or just a few
Glory and wealth soon followed. Qohor stood proud against Valyria, the Dothraki and any other enemy that dared stand before the followers of the Black goat, and the city of sorcerers. Your family continued to rise in power and build as the city grew to be one of the wealthiest of the free cities after the doom of valyria. 60 years ago however, the patriarch of your family converted to the lrod of light, which lost him his seat on the cities ruling council and caused many of the families beneath ours to betray our cause. Our characters father, reduced to a mere general, still served the city well, leading us to victory over the Norvosi in a quarrel over borders. This leaves us now, free to choose our own gods, and our own way to claw our way back to ruling Qohor, as is our families birthright
>>3466067>>3466100>>3466119Combine the top two then. Our character publically pays lip service to the black goat but secretly worships the gods of his ancestors.
>>3466100>>3466107I like this, but have to support worshiping the Black Goat for our character, since is one of the main and most prominent features of Qohor.
Why would we worship the valyrian gods? The founders of Qohor left valyria to worship the black goat. That's one of the cities big shticks. The red god I could maybe see, but old valyria..I dont know. HAIL SATAN!!
>>3466128At least publically. Privately we can still worship our ancestral gods.
>>3466132The Qohorik didn’t come from the Valyrian freehold. And I don’t feel like sacrificing babies.
>>3466134Black Goat >>>>>> Valyrian faggy gods
Supporting the Valyrian Dragon Gods.
>>3466141Requirement to sacrifice our own children on holy days? Hard pass.
>>3466144It IS a good explanation for why our influence is so low compared to all our other stuff.
>>3466146If you read it, the High Nobles are only required by their holy book to sacrifice their children during times of extreme crisis. We only sacrifice prisoners on holy days, thank you very much.
>>3466140Qohor was founded by Valyrians who didn't worship their dragon gods. They left Valyria because they wanted to worship the black goat properly. Thats the entire reason the city worships the g.o.a.t goat god.
>>3466154>>3466155Ok it is ex valyrians. But sacrificing our children at ANY time is too much. Rather face an extreme crisis without killing our own children.
>>3465870>>Greatsword>Heavy (Immoveable object)
>>3466165It still makes more sense than worshiping (nearly) dead gods that only a few families in Volantis worship. Rhollor is a viable alternative, but Black Goat is King in our city.
>>3466172Why not revive our old gods with us as the high priest? At least we don’t have to sacrifice our own children to the Valyrian gods.
Okay, here is the character sheet of your Bodyguard/concubine, and mother of your bastard daughter. She's a big girl, but not Mountain levels.Originally from Kayakayanaya, across the Grass Sea and beyond even Vaes Dothrak, Eleshrika was banished for a crime she will not share, not even to you in your most intimate of moments. Sold into slavery to the Dothraki for her actions, she was originally intended to be a bed-slave for a Khal. When she tore out his teeth, then stole a horse and fled to Vaes Dothrak, very few Dothraki argued with exiling her again, this time from the Grass Sea. The reason they did not execute her was down to no Dothraki being willing to try to kill her without shedding blood. Taken again by slavers to Qohor, you were barely a man, being taught in your families stronghold on the border of Qohoric lands when a party of 6 Dothraki rode up to the entrance to the small hamlet, tied a tall woman bound nearly head to toe in rope to the entrance gate, and rode away. A short explanation later saw your father bring her into your service, firstly as a concubine, then as a bodyguard when her combat skills saved your life from an attempted kidnapping. Now she attends all council meetings, a looming, hulking presence that speaks far more than the privately owned Unsullied that protect your fellow council members. Some 10 years ago, she gave birth to your daughter, who is currently torn between her mother's insistence on her training with the Family Guard, and her love of intrigue and politics from you. Tomorrow, I'll conclude this, and then start the story off, alongside House Blacksand. If the thread doesn't come up with a decent name for the Family, I'll invent one, and wrap anything I missed up. See you all tomorrow.
>>3466172This. I could understand if we had went with an academic or magic build but the Valyrian Gods make little sense for our character. I'd even want R'hllor over the Valyrian Gods.
>>3466178How would we even know how to worship them? What are we? The equivalent of modern day larping pagans?
>>3466189Ignore the age, she's 23, not 20. Mistyped that one.
>>3466193>>3466191Because the Valyrian gods don’t require us to sacrifice children. Anything is better than being a bloodthirsty baby murderer.
>>3466198The Black Goat demands daily blood sacrifice. The Qohorik often bring calves, bullocks, and horses before the Black Goat's altars. However, on holy days it is condemned criminals who go beneath the knives of the god's cowled priests, and, in times of danger and crisis it is written that the high nobles of the city offer their own children to placate the Black Goat, that he might defend the city.Right off the wiki. In times of great danger, the nobles MAY offer their children. Even on holy days it's still just criminals and lowborn scum who get axed. And QM said we don't have to worry about great danger currently because we're paying off the dothraki to leave us the hell alone.
Lol niggas in here unironically supporting human sacrifice and baby murdering. Quit justifying the fact that you just want to murder children and admit it.
>>3466198>>3466227Wow, imagine my shock that these two ID's once again share the exact same opinion? The city was voted for, and Qohor is a fascinating city. The City of Sorcerers. Blood magic and blood sacrifices are part of the city. No matter what god we worship, it's going to be expected of us to donate a child if everyone else in the city does it. So let's just play the city that we rolled, and worship that cities god.
>>3466227>>3466198So I didn't believe >>3465481 when he raised concerns about samefagging but I do after this shit. You two have the same exact opinions and same exact talking points on literally every single fucking vote. The Old Valyrian Gods are also all about ritualistic sacrifice so can you please stop sucking their dick over this bad-faith crusade.
The 14 Valyrean Dragon Gods have been done really well in the Quest "The Dragon has 3 Heads" over on QQ....
>>3466241How about literally any god that doesn’t require blood and child sacrifice. The Black Goat is complete shit because of that. If he didn’t have literal human sacrifice, as well as baby murder, I wouldn’t mind it.
>>3466244Then fucking worship something that’s not either of them. No child sacrifice or human sacrifice period.
I am happy with Blood Magic and even Blood Sacrifice.... But if done, then it will be to Dragon Gods not a fucking hairy meal for a Bridge Troll!
>>3466244>>3466241Imagine my fucking shock when I see yet again these 2 IDs agreeing with each other. Just as they have the entire fucking thread. Fuck off with your child murder.
Valyreans had the right of it.Sacrifice your Enemies!Why Sacrifice a Child when you can Sacrifice an Adult Warrior instead?More Magic in a Worthy Foe than a Youngling.
>>3466251Where in the fluff or lore does Valyrian gods require child sacrifice? Because if that’s true then I’ll vote something else.
>>3466198>being concerned with killing childrenSlaves are nothing to those who know truly the black goat!Besides we dont eveb have to sacrifice people Bulls and lambs likely do well on lesser days
>>3466255No offence but all the accusations of Samefagging are a bit shitty....Just because other people have differing views.....I support Valyrian Gods because Dragons and Awesome Magics.Nuff said
I support whatever is against samefagging baby murderer
>>3466262It doesn't.Valyrians did their Magics differently.All Gods on Planetos happily take Sacrifices however.Way I look at it though, is Sacrifice those you defeat.Makes it a worthy Sacrifice to get Blessings and Magic etc.Black Goat is Lame and Nigger God.
>>3466277At this point I’m just gonna vote for whatever is the non baby murdering option.
Whatever man. Sure let's go with that. While were at it let's make dornish house that worships the old gods so we can be super unique and interesting. Or maybe we could be a wildiling tribe that's converted to the 7. How about we play the city we rolled?
>>3466283If you want a FIRM no baby murderer religion, you should vote for R'hllor.
>>3466288Because baby murdering Not!satan memes are super cool and unique and interesting. How about we not be baby murdering faggots.
>>3466297Except they literally burn people alive as sacrifices. Including children.
>>3466299If we were in literally ANY other city I'd agree with you. But we arnt. The only city the old valyrian gods make sense is in Volantis.
Why the fuck would we want the Red God?!That was the God of the Slaves back in Valyria just like the Faceless men in a way.We worship the 14 Dragon Gods, the Gods of the Dragon Lords.
>>3466304Then literally vote for no fucking god because every god in Essos accepts sacrifices including children.
>>3466316No thanks, I'd rather not be a dragonfag, I'm okay with either the goat or Rhllor
>>3466319>>3466311I get it. You want a super edgy, baby murdering, blood for the goat god quest. Super cool and interesting. Super dark and edgy.
>>3466277Their is a reason the Targ words "fire and blood" and not just because aegon conquered Westeros with it besides all magic is dark and bloody in Asoiaf be it Weirwood magic the three eyed raven is teaching brand, the shadow magic of Asshai or the warlocks of the undying houseBlood has power
>>3466329I could give less of a fuck about edginess, child murder, or sacrifice. If we were in Volantis, I'd say we should go for Rhllor. If were in Westeros, I'd say we should follow the Seven. I just want us to actually follow the main religion of Qohor instead of being a speshul snowflake. For your information, literally the only religion in the setting that doesn't practice some form of ritualistic blood sacrifice is the Seven and that's a continent away.
>>3466345Dude, I get it. You want dark, edgy, bloody. It’s fine, just stop pretending you don’t give a fuck about your cool and edgy Not!Satan child murdering. It’s clear you want to be an edgelord and that’s fine. Just be honest about it
>>3466245>The 14 Valyrean Dragon Gods have been done really well in the Quest "The Dragon has 3 Heads" over on QQ....This tbqh we have a whole tv show more or less dedicated to dragons. And more than enough Valyrian wank across the internet. Would prefer to explore something else.
>>3466356Nobody here cares about what people do on QQ or whatever that is.
BalerionGod of BecomingConquerors, explorers, traders beginning an entirely new venture, maids on their first moon's blood, and newlyweds may sacrifice to him. His greater feast is the first planting day in the spring. His lesser feast is the first night of the waxing crescent moon, the night after the new moon.He is old, a vast, dull black dragon, a hunchbacked old man with a cane, or a still-hot ember of a once-mighty flame. Like all of the Five, his dominion is the opposite of his nature.SyraxGoddess of IncreasingInheritors of crowns or lordships, farmers planting their seed, traders reinvesting in a successful venture, pregnant women, and couples who seek pregnancy may sacrifice to her. Her greater feast is the first harvest of spring vegetables (lettuces, strawberries, etc) after a winter. Her lesser feast is the first quarter moon, the transition from waxing crescent to waxing gibbous.She is elderly but spry; a large red or copper dragon, a mature woman with a cheerful smile, a brand burned down to the end.MeraxesGoddess of RemainingKings, lords, parents of children no longer babes, and merchants in established businesses may sacrifice to her. Her greater feast is the First Long Day as a winter fades, the first day with more than twelve hours from sunrise to sunset. Her lesser feast is the full moon.She is quite young; a slim golden dragon, a teen in the flush of puberty, all knees and elbows and bosom, a bonfire just coming alight.The secret of forging Valyrian Steel is held jointly between her and Balerion, as it is the art of creating new things that are themselves timeless and enduring.CaraxesGod of DecliningOld men and women, sellers of the assets of failed businesses, sheep-shearers and farmers at harvest-time, and scavengers amongst ruins of those who came before may sacrifice to him. His greater feast is the last day of harvest before a winter comes. His lesser feast is the third quarter moon.He is in the prime of life, a powerful bronze dragon, a strong man, a roaring hearthfire.MorghulGod of EndingNone sacrifice to him, save the debased rites of the Faceless Men, but on the first winter's night that exceeds twelve hours no son or daughter of Valyria dares offer prayer or sacrifice at all, lest he take notice. He has shrines, and all bow when they pass, but only the reckless or truly desperate dare draw his attention beyond the basic honours due any of the gods.He is a child, a dragonet in bright silver or glittering, polished black, with no flame but claws and fangs far too large for his size; a boy of seven years; the first spark struck of flint and steel or clashing blades.
Is there a reason why we would worship the valerian gods if were from Qohor? I thought that's why Vargo Hoat had the goat on his banners is because people from Qohor worship him?
>>3466354Look if you don't wanna be edgy that's fine, but can you quit sucking on your own dick about it being so edgy to worship not!Satan (which is what everyone else where we live worships). Just roll with the punches given and get over it, we can sacrifice animals just as much as kids or people on other days.You don't wanna murder babies? It's when times are in crisis so quit getting up in arms about this child murder bit.>>3466411It's because some don't wanna face up to having to deal with child and baby sacrifice on the rare occasion because it's too """edgy""" for them to stomach.So they wanna hide it behind our Valyrian ancestry and worship those gods because "THEY DON'T SACRIFICE BABIES AND KIDS, THIS IS THE RIGHT OPTION"
>>3466411Doesn’t mean we can’t worship the dragon gods. Plus our character is originally Valyrian. It would also explain why we have an influence of 15
>>3466427Worshipping different gods explains why we have only 15 influence despite owning an enclave, a small castle, and having Valyrian smiths available. It gives us a good reason to expand and take over things. It’s an impetus for us to do things besides sit around sacrificing shit. Without a religious head, we are free to act as we wish.
>>3466457We still have to keep the appearance up of worship to the Black Goat you know, lest the people who are going to get sick of this asshole not worshiping the god as them not putting in the child sacrifice that they have to do when crisis rolls aroundThey'll go up at arms about this, you can't just expect to worship some foreign god to them and have these folks lay back and accept that as the way things are. Are you really wanting to do this worshiping of old dead and foreign gods because it would "explain" some shit about our influence? Or are you doing it to spite that "samefag" who you kept shaming as some edgy fuck who wanted to go for child and baby sacrifice just for the hell of it, when he probably just wanted to get into the proper cultural god of the area we're ruling?
>>3466534I’m ok with publically paying lip service to Goat to avoid persecution. As long as we secretly worship the ancient gods of our ancestors. Maybe have a secret shrine to the Valyrian gods somewhere in the enclave or something.
To be entirely honest, I'm disappointed we didn't go for the dragon egg meme in the end.
>>3466607Just a bit, however, not like it'll eat me up too much
>>3466607>>3466615I tried but nobody else wanted to. Doesn’t mean we won’t get a chance in the future if we hold our faith to the true gods, the gods of our ancestors.
>>3466198>>3466329Oy vey! It's the same autist with 2 ids that shitted up the House Reynold creation thread. Ignore him lads.
>>3466672Oh look, it’s a faggot who resorts to anti semitic canards when people have a different opinion. Go do your shitposting in /pol/, it’s the containment zone for autists like you
>>3466189Voting Black Goat
We have an influence of 31 though? Sure we spent some on our enclave, but we still have an influence value of 31 for determining our status no?
Voting Valyrian Dragon Gods.Other Anon was right, Questionable Questing thread by Lunasmeow aka Tessarian is really fucking good!Besides.... I agree with getting Dragons at some point. Better to be favoured by Dragon Gods for that.
We spent some on a Daughter too.
Right, I'll throw in on the religion issue so things get a little cooler in here.Qohor was founded by the followers of the Black Goat, but unlike Norvos, it is not a mono-faith city. You can worship anyone you'd like.On the child sacrifice, as has been pointed out, that is a voluntary thing that the nobility do in times of strife (Be it plague, famine, invasion, anything). On holy days, criminals are sacrificed. The Black Goat and R'hllor are the only Essosi religions that practice human sacrifice, and even then, R'hllor doesn't do is massively, typically as an execution method. Only the more fanatical R'hllor worshippers actually practice it on a large scale.On the influence question, I will remind you you do not reduce resources, you invest them. Unless it expressly states reduce, your resources stay the same. (For example, in this homebrew, if you wanted to have standing armies, you reduce your population by 1 for each unit, to represent them no longer being farmers/workers for you)
>>3468169I would say it make the most sense if our family became worshippers of the Black Goat after being in the city for so many generations.
Okay, lets break this down into a vote.Which god/gods do you want to worship?>Valyrian Gods (Old, the original gods of your family. Rituals are based around fire and mastery of it, rather than worship of it like R'hllor>The Black Goat (Seen as a devil by many religions, the black goat is the religion of the founders of Qohor, and is the most powerful in the city. Rituals are focused on animal sacrifice and occasional human sacrifice)>R'hllor (The Lord of Light, a fire cult that concerns itself with the coming darkness, and the emergance of a hero, Azor Ahai. Very occasionally, criminals may be burned as a sacrifice, though there are rumours of fanatics who willingly sacrifice anything to the flame)>Other (Any of the myriad of smaller religions in Essos)
>>3468517>The Black Goat (Seen as a devil by many religions, the black goat is the religion of the founders of Qohor, and is the most powerful in the city. Rituals are focused on animal sacrifice and occasional human sacrifice)
>>3468517>Valyrian Gods (Old, the original gods of your family. Rituals are based around fire and mastery of it, rather than worship of it like R'hllor
>>3468517>The Black Goat (Seen as a devil by many religions, the black goat is the religion of the founders of Qohor, and is the most powerful in the city. Rituals are focused on animal sacrifice and occasional human sacrifice)>R'hllor (The Lord of Light, a fire cult that concerns itself with the coming darkness, and the emergance of a hero, Azor Ahai. Very occasionally, criminals may be burned as a sacrifice, though there are rumours of fanatics who willingly sacrifice anything to the flame)
>>3468169The graces to no? Aren't the fighting pits a round about way to get sacrifices. >>3468517The Black Goat (Seen as a devil by many religions, the black goat is the religion of the founders of Qohor, and is the most powerful in the city. Rituals are focused on animal sacrifice and occasional human sacrifice)
>>3468622You are Valyrian in origin. You don't worship Ghiscari gods.
>>3468677I just mean that it's an Essosi religion that practices a form of human sacrifice. Also there was motive outside of sacrifice, but the juggling dwarf was fed to the statue of Trios. Which suggest a willingness for blood offerings.
>>3468517>The Black Goat
>>3468517>The Black Goat (Seen as a devil by many religions, the black goat is the religion of the founders of Qohor, and is the most powerful in the city. Rituals are focused on animal sacrifice and occasional human sacrifice)I wonder if our third eye gets spooky with talking goats telling us to do blood sacrafices and what not
>>3468816Well, you don't have third eye
>>3468821Could have sworn we took it my bad
Black Goat>>3468904>>3468816>>3468810>>3468622>>3468611>>3468573>>3468572>>3468526Valyrian>>3468536>>3468537>>3468576>>3468804>>3468869Black Goat wins. Now all that is needed is a name, and rough appearance.
>>3468959Here are some Qhoric names. I am leaning towards Meralyn
>>3468959 young Geralt?
>>3468977For our appearance obviously
>>3468959Aegon Eimos: Standing a half's head shorter than the average man of his age, he's of a lean build indicating he spends less time feasting or fighting but rather spending with crafting works of intrigue and charming.And with features which show his parentage and ancestry being the blood of Valyria, even before there was a Valyria. A face with smooth pale white skin with a stubble of silver hair marking the sign of a full beard beginning to form, lilac-colored eyes with lines and rings beneath them from many nights of reading and work, and short kept platinum-gold hair. His lips always pulled back into a half-grin when not in a neutral expression of non-emotion.If there's something to change here then go right ahead, just using this as a baseline so we get more moving along
Fuck.... Missed the God Vote....*sigh*Yeah fuck this.... not worshipping a fucking goat that gets shit stuck to its ass hair
>>3469260I like it. Only suggestion is changing the first name. Seems like most Qohorik names have an o at the end. Maybe Vigo Eimos?
>>3469318Lotho Eimos ?
>>3468968I like Cossomo the most out of these, Cossomo Eimos sounds pretty good to me
>>3469318I was namely trying to have some more correlation to our Valyrian ancestry along with Qohorik as well in the name. Aego? Meago? I'm not sure exactly>>3469291If you're not playing in this quest because of that, then you weren't cut out, to begin with I'm afraid
>>3469353Our family have been in this city for generations and for almost 300 years after the fall of Old Valyria. I am pretty sure we have assimilated into the local culture when it comes to names and religion
>>3468959Blacko GoatoShow just how pious we are compared to everyone else
>>3469353But i do like the name Aego.
>>3469353That's fair. In that case, how about Visyro? Or Rhaenyro? Balerio?
I'd +1 on Aego, seems a nice balance between Qohoric bastardisation of Valyrian as well as our long and storied Valyrian heritage. I suggested Eimos as house name because "Anon-ymous" (Anaion Eimos) but it actually does sound pretty nice, memes aside>>3469367Seriously if all you are going to do is fight and moan every vote instead of trying to be constructive, please don't post at all
>>3469353+1 for Aego
Rolled 3, 2, 5, 1 + 4 = 15 (4d6 + 4)Okay, Aego Eimos seems to have won, with several votes. A slim man, seemingly fitted for the council hall, not the battlefield. I'll roll for his wealth, and sort out posessions, and then we'll kick this off.
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>3469613Yes I am applying Head for Numbers here.
Purchases are Superior MacePalfreyNobles Garb (1000 ss) x2PavilionSuperior StilettoWith 6 Goats (Dragons) and 50 Moons (Stags) left over.In 15 minutes, first post will be up, with a full history and game start.
>MFW the name and look I made for us won>Feelsgoodman
House Eimos, an ancient House of Valyria, by birthright the last of the Dragonlords, left Valyria long ago, when the head of their house had terrible visions of death and doom for all Valyria. None believed him, but when he sold his holdings in Valyria and headed north, many laughed. Then they forgot. In fact, all forgot, till his son established himself as master of a wayfort guarding the west of Essaria, a Valyrian colony. The presence of dragonlords, albeit displaced ones nearby, made the Essarians happy not to rock the boat, and for a long time, things were uneventful. When colonists of the Cult of the Black Goat arrived, and began building, it was to the nearby dragonlords they turned to for protection. The forces of house Eimos provided the military security Qohor needed, especially against their rivals in Norvos, who would have otherwise wiped the “devil-worship” from their eastern border.When the Doom happened, the Lord of Eimos laughed. For his ancestor had been right, simply pre-emptive. But the doom hurt the family in other ways. Aurion Eimos, Dragonlord and Heir to the Family proclaimed himself Emperor, and with the other family dragon, he went south at the head of an army of 30,000 to reclaim the homelands. This betrayal ended the use of the title of Dragonlord in the House of Eimos, but even this set back was not enough. It was a member of House Eimos who purchased the Unsullied from Astapor, who led them back and to victory against Khal Temmo. The history of Qohor is bound into House Eimos, and House Eimos, into Qohor.However, times have changed. Despite converting to the Black Goat when Aurion left, House Eimos was always the outsider, always the odd one out. And slowly, slowly, by decree and by mercantile trick, the vicegrip Eimos once held on the City of the Black Goat was loosened. Now, all they have are the buildings they own, and the services of those who value Valyria over the Goat. Sellswords paid by the city guard their castle, so as “To lift the burden from the noble house”, and with this went the tolls that used to be collected. Now only rents pay for the house. And the house itself is down to it’s last Trueborn heir. Aego Eimos must rally all his wit, so as to rise again to the heights his family once soared… and maybe… beyond.
>>3469750The shadows cast by the deep purple silks blocking the direct glare of the midday sun move slowly across your face, as the wafting of fans by the council slaves starts to become almost as monotonous as the speech the High Priest is giving. For a man who can cause a crowd to begin to whip and flay themselves in devotion, the man cannot make a speech that doesn’t involve blood sound even vaguely appealing. Your armour clinks slightly as you shift, as the old man continues to drone on.“And the practice of tithing wood to the temples must continue, in raw goods, not in coin paid. To shift away from such an ancient practice would be unthinkable. The Goat is of Qohor, he desires it’s flesh, blood, it’s resources, not the coin of foreign merchants and princes!”Farro Maereot, another council member leans closer, his wide face sweating even in the shade and wafting fans.“But the coin he gets from selling the lumber whenever there is a shortage, oh that the Goat would love to take.”Smirking, you hide your reaction behind taking a sip of wine. The Council of Qohor meets two times a month, but it feels like it’s almost time for the next meeting already. There has been two speeches asking for a small change in tariffs, and now the High Priest has been speaking for nearly two hours on some small technicality of the tithes the temple collects. “Thus, my lords, I put this to you. Will you allow our God to be denied his lusts, and thirsts, and risk his wroth? Or will you submit, to his unyielding will!?”Malaquo Maganis, the Chair for this meeting nods, and rises to his feet.“The Council may now address the Issue!”>Do you wish to address the issue?>In favour of the Temple? (Will endear you to the High priest)>Against the Temple?>Remain Silent, and let the motion go to vote?>Write in...
>>3469779>In favour of the Temple
>in favour of the templeTime to start building our influence, and what better way to do that than through religion?
>>3469779>In favour of the Temple? (Will endear you to the High priest)
>>3469792>>3469794>>3469802Raising a hand, you indicate that you wish to speak. Farro Maereot does the same. Malaquo looks at the two of you, and nods. “Aego Eimos is recognised, by blood and right, he may speak. Farro Maereot is recognised, by blood and right he may speak!”Farro bows his head, and gestures for you to go first, as the High Priest cedes the floor.>How do you approach this?>Speak of the benefits the Temple of the Black Goat bring? (Persuasion Bargin) (6k5+2)>Speak emotively of how the Black Goat is important for Qohor? (Persuasion Charm) (7k5)>Speak logically, of how the followers of the Black Goat who are not nobles may react? (Cunning, Logic) (5k4)
>>3469779>In favour of the Temple? (Will endear you to the High priest)>"It must be said, however, Maereot raises a fine point. The more coin we'd be able to bring in the more we can invest in Qohor and purchase of goods. The lumber may be foreign, I would say our God would find to enjoy something exotic every now and again would he not? And would our God not wish to see his people prosper and revel alongside him?"
>>3469826>Speak of the benefits the Temple of the Black Goat bring? (Persuasion Bargin) (6k5+2)
>>3469826>Speak emotively of how the Black Goat is important for Qohor? (Persuasion Charm) (7k5)
>>3469826>Speak of the benefits the Temple of the Black Goat bring
>>3469830Just to let you know, Maerot was whispering. And what you wrote there is in opposition to the High Priests point. The High Priest wants the lumber because it is of Qohor, not a cut of the sales of said lumber
>Speak of the benefits the Temple of the Black Goat bring? (Persuasion Bargin) (6k5+2)If we get the high priest some more money for whatever it is he’s doing, he better sacrifice and pray to the black goat for us and shit.>>3469396It was a constructive and legitimate option. You didn’t like it, that’s fine, vote for something else and piss off.
>>3469870>>3469859>>3469854>>3469836>>3469831>Speak of the benefits the Temple of the Black Goat bring? (Persuasion Bargin) (6k5+2)Please give me 3 rolls of 6d6+2
Rolled 5, 4, 2, 3, 3, 1 + 2 = 20 (6d5 + 2)>>3469879
Rolled 5, 1, 2, 1, 6, 5 + 2 = 22 (6d6 + 2)>>3469879
Rolled 6, 5, 2, 2, 2, 2 + 2 = 21 (6d6 + 2)>>3469879Here you are>>3469868[spoilerWell then didn't realize until it was sent][/spoiler]
>>3469879Oof, looking at the rolls maybe the 7 dice option would have been better.
>>3469882Should've rolled d6 there pal
Rolled 1, 4, 1, 4, 2, 1 + 2 = 15 (6d5 + 2)>>3469889Wait shit, one over
>>3469910>>3469879>Please give me 3 rolls of 6d6+2You did right the first time
Rolled 5, 1, 5, 6, 5, 6 = 28 (6d6)>>3469879
>>3469930Hero of the hour
>>3469930>>3469889>>346988522, 21,30 vs TN 15/18/21 (Success, 2 degrees)“My Noble Qohoric Lords. The Temple desires its tithe in lumber. And why should we not? After all, the Temple provides vast revenues upon the holy days, when petitioners arrive from all over to celebrate the Goat and his consumption of those who have violated his city. And are we not a city of trade? The Temple is no different. Except they cannot own lumber camps, or mines, or communities to draw upon, dependant solely upon tithes and donations. Indeed, we also do not look at the hidden costs of such a change. Each merchant house would have to deduct their tithe after sales, dependant upon weather and season, and the river Rhoyne, far from a stable river. Surely it is better to keep it simple, where all raw resources are sent in, then merchants can make of their lumber what they want.”Careful nods and mutters follow your speech. Then Farro begins to speak. “Lords. My good friend Aego speaks the truth. Striking at the Temple in this way is simply an action to cause division, shift responsibility from the noble families onto hundreds of smaller merchants as well, so it is cheaper for them. I would benefit from this greatly, what with my 4 lumber mills at the head of the Qhoyne, but I feel it is nothing more than the careful avoidance of paying a full tithe, thoroughly irreligious. Now, unless someone else seeks to speak, I call for an immediate vote! Show your devotion to the Dark Goat! Or your own pockets.”Malaquo glares at Maereot, and slams the staff of Qohor three times on the floor. “Is the Vote opposed?”No-one speaks.“Black in support of the Motion. White against. In the Motion of the reversal of the Motion of tithe edicts moving to being in coin after sale, than resources before.”A Slave lifts the purple silk blindfold next to you up, and then ties it securely around your head. You are handed two circular tablets, the slave whispering into your ear.“Black.” In your left hand.“White.” In your right.“Cast your Votes!” calls Malaquo>Cast your vote for the Motion? (Your left hand)>Cast your vote against the Motion? (Your right hand)>Abstain?>Write in...
>>3470021>(Your left hand)
>Cast your vote for the Motion? (Your left hand)I'm going with this assuming this means we're supporting what the temple wants and that Farro is actually our "friend". Unless I've got that backwards
>>3470021>Cast your vote for the Motion? (Your left hand)
>>3470021>“Black in support of the Motion. White against. In the Motion of the reversal of the Motion of tithe edicts moving to being in coin after sale, than resources before.”I feel this could be phrased better.>Left
>>3470021>Cast your vote for the Motion>>3470058>In the Motion of the reversal of the Motion of tithe edicts moving to being in coin after sale, than resources before.Sounds like we're reversing a previous motion which made the tithe paid in coin, so yeah that's what the temple and Farro want.
>>3470058>>3470057>>3470062>>3470064>>3470098Your ears here the sound of clattering, as each of the 21 council members votes. You feel the slave take the stone you did not cast from you, then remove your blindfold. In a small circle of light, in the centre of the room, lies 14 black tokens, and 3 white tokens. Malaquo nods."The Motion passes. All Tithes will be made in raw resources from now onwards!"He strikes the floor again."Now I will hear petitions from the people."Farro stands, as does around 15 other council members, and begin to move towards the doors. The High Priest remains sitting, as a man wearing cheap silks walks in, leading two goats, one black, one white.>Do you stay for the petitions?>Do you leave, seeking sun, and excitement?
Lets stay for the petitions. I want to see what these goats are all about
>>3470140>stay for the petitionsI want to see what happens, even if there is no benefit for us.
>>3470140>Stay for the petitionsNo harm to it
>>3470140>Petitions Might as well see what some of the governance of this city entails, even if we are far from the reins of power at this time.
>>3470208>>3470195>>3470157>>3470153You remain seated, as the man begins to speak."My lords, this goat here..." He indicates the black goat. "...has been selected to be sacrificed, but she is pregnant with kids. I seek to replace her with this fine specimen, a peak breeding specimen."The High Priest grunts angrily."You'd deny the Black Goat what he has chosen to consume!? How impudent!"The man cowers breifly."No, I do not seek to cheat the Goat, great Priest. I simply seek to offer a better selection. When this goat was first selected, I had asked them not to pick the white, but now I see the error in my ways. Please, understand, noble lords..."Malaquo glances around the remaining lords.>Do you wish to speak?>In favour of the man?>Against the man? >Do not speak?>Write in?
>>3470212>Do not speakYeah let’s not get the high priest annoyed at us after we just stuck our neck out to get his favor. Just watch, observe, and learn what we can, especially what kind of man the high priest is.
>>3470212>Do not speak
>>3470215>>3470225>>3470237As no lords speak, Malaquo raises his staff."The Black Goat has chosen one goat to be sacrificed. The High Priest may take this goat, so long as he waits till the kids have been delivered and weaned. For they were not selected. Thus I rule."Malaquo stamps his staff on the floor again, and the man retreats, bowing. The High Priest stands, and turns, shaking his head."An impious man. If he had true faith, he would have rejoiced at giving more than he thought."Malaquo looks at the High Priest."You can have what you selected. Nothing more. He willingly gave the goat, till he discovered he had given far more."Another 2 petitioners enter, a bolt of ruined silk between them. As they begin to speak, the High Priest marches out, walking on the silk as he does so. >Stay?>Leave?Also, its getting late here, so I'll wrap this up. I'll probably run short sessions in the week, about 2-3 hours each day, at 2100-2200. See you then.
>>3470273>LeaveLet's either go talk to the high priest or find Farro and get a feel for whats going on in the city.
>>3470273>StayI think Malaquo would appreciate if we stayed and made some legal arguments, and he seems like a good guy to have on our side. It's good to see how these petitions work, who knows, one day we might make a petition too.
>>3470273Leave. This is boring and we’ve seen that the high priest is a bit of a dick. See what else is going on.
>>3466672Also pointed out the very same faggot (hWyvKyHN and 1lqMSI37) in house reynold quest. Thankfully the shitter is easy to notice and to disregard.
>>3471526>>3471459>>3471233>>3470313>>3470290>>3470363The two men begin speaking at once, not a word can be heard, till Malaquo stamps his staff. He then points at the one on the left."My lords, this man sold me this silk, then as he went to hand it to me, he knocked it from the table onto the floor, ruining it. I then saw that it was it was far from silks from Qarth, but of a far poorer quality! I demand he repays me in full!"The second man speaks, glaring at the first."A man tells no lies, and a lord knows the truth. A man dropped the silk himself, and then seeks to use a man's birth against a man. A man also pays less coin, claiming some discount for men from Qohor."Malaquo inspects the silk closely, and then looks at you and the only other remaining noble, the others having left once the High Priest did.>Do you wish to speak?>In favour of the man?>Against the man? >Do not speak?>Write in?
>>3472320>Do you wish to speak?ask if there were any witnesses
>>3472326Supporting, also it sounds suspicious that the first guy would buy the silk without inspecting it
>>3472326Go with this
Leaning, forward, you tilt your head, and ask."Are there no other witnesses? No one saw this dispute?"The second man shakes his head."A mans shop is covered, so as to avoid weather damaging goods. A man does possess a bill of sale, for the silks, and this man possess his record of the sale."Reaching into a small scroll case on his hip, the silk merchant pulls out a small folded booklet of paper. He opens it, and the book is taken from himi by a slave and handed around the council, Malaquo first. It states that for the sum of 5 goats, a bolt of silk in yellow would be sold. No mention of the origin of the silk appears. When prompted, the first man produces the bill, on which is written "For 8 golden goats, a bolt of silk in yellow from Qarth.">Please give me Cunning Decipher (5d6)
Rolled 6, 2, 5, 4, 1 = 18 (5d6)>>3472436
Rolled 3, 2, 4, 2, 6 = 17 (5d6)>>3472436
Rolled 5, 4, 3, 5, 1 = 18 (5d6)
Rolled 4, 3, 5, 3, 6 = 21 (5d6)>>3472436
>>3472440>>3472442>>347244717, 15, 17 vs TN 10It is clear the bill of sale has been edited, cleverly, but Qarth, and parts of the 8 are in a slighlty different ink. It is clear that while waiting for an audience, the man has changed his bill.>Announce this?>Let it pass by?>Write in...
>>3472458>Announce this?A dishonest merchant ?!I am shocked!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME
>>3472491>>3472463>>3472462The first man continues to speak, as the papers are inspected."This Lorathi thinks he can enter the City of the Goat, and cheat the Goats children! I'll not suffer it though, and I know you will not."Malaquo frowns, as you speak up."But at least the Lorathi didn't edit the bill of sale."The mans face goes pale, and he begins to stutter, as Malaquo speaks."You have saught to cheat using the Council of Qohor. You are fined an amount equivalent to ten times the amount you saught to profit. Till then, your name will be held by the Temple of the Goat."Malaquo stamps the staff twice on the floor, then grins."That gives you.. oh, just under 4 weeks to pay the debt before the next holy day. So..."The man pales even further, and hastily retreats. The Lorathi bows, takes his documents back, and leaves, carrying the silk. Malaquo nods his thanks to you, before twisting his neck."The next few are disputes between noble families I've agreed to hear privately. So I would ask if you could depart."Standing, you step out of the council hall, and are met by Eleshirka. The tall woman stands where you left her, glaring at the various household soldiers loitering in the ante-chamber of the Council Hall, but as you emerge, your steel clad feet clinking lightly on the mosaiced floor displaying the arrival in Qohor of the 3000, she moves to close behind you."Well, master of mine. Where are we heading?">Farro's palace, to inqure about his speech?>The Temple of the Black Goat, to seek out the High Priest?>Home, to oversee the business of the month?>Write in...I'm going to pick this up again tomorrow, maybe a bit later than today. Roughly expect this length of session in the week, a few posts and votes, just to keep it ticking over.I'm going to pick this up again tomorrow, maybe a bit later than today. Roughly expect this length of session in the week, a few posts and votes, just to keep it ticking over.
>>3472559>Write in...Do an inspection of our work propertise. See that everything is running smoothly
>>3472559>Home, to oversee the business of the month?
>>3472566support. also to get an idea of what our acual assets are in the city.
>>3472566I like it, lets get an overview.
QM gone ?
>>3477362Naw hes just busy. Said he might do a couple short runs during the week, but nothing for sure.
>>3472559"Home, I think Eleshrika. Business needs to be attended to, and I'd be remiss if I let things pile up."Eleshrika nods, and paces forward, leading you through the hall. As you exit the council hall, a tall building of black oily stone that your ancestors raised, a small crowd of petitioners and beggars surge towards you, only to be pushed back by Eleshrika. Growling slightly, she clears a path for you, and the two of you begin walking through the city, towards the Enclave of House Eimos."Master of Mine, Master Maereot inquired if you would be attending his festival for the opening of his new mine in a days time. I doubt there will be foul play, and if there is, his Unsullied look fat and indulgent. I have no doubt I could resuce you from any scheme."Shaking your head in amusement, you look up at her."Do you think of anything else, Eleshrika? Or is how you would kill others simply what you think I want to hear?"Eleshrika smiles at you, her ruby pierced cheeks glittering in the sun. "I think of many things, but mainly how to keep you alive, and how to kill anyone with or without a weapon near you, yes. But I fear an answer to the question will be needed.">Wait till you get to the Enclave?>Yes, you'll attend the feast in a days time?>No, you'll not attend Farro's party?>Write in...
>>3480151>Yes, you'll attend the feast in a days time?
>>3480379>>3480171>>3480166"Tell Farro I'll attend. No harm in it, and he does throw wonderful parties. In the meantime, home, and a bath, I think.""Yes, Master of Mine. Though your daughter may wish to speak with you. She has questions about how she will be educated."Rolling your eyes, you continue to walk towards the Eimos Enclave. When Eleshrika had given birth to your daughter, you had been delighted, but your duties to the city, and the family's interests had meant her mother had raised her for the first few years of life. This meant moring sprints, weapon training, and learning where on a body to stab. Hardly useful traits in a tactical marriage alliance with a lesser house, which was the normal fate of the bastard daughters. However, having a trained fighter is not a bad thing, if you could head it off now, before her mother began requesting rubie cheek piercings.The walk to your Enclave is not a long one, firmly part of the Old City, in fact the first true interior walls within the city were the ones surrounding your home. As you step through the gate, and two of the city watch outside snap to attention, you see the familiar sites of the Eimos market stretched out before you. Far from full, there is still a handful of stalls plying their wares, though none of it is especially illustrious or special. Walking along the long streets that lead to your palace, you see coming towards you, a squad of the household guard, one of whom is holding your duaghter firmly under one arm.>React protectively? (Order the guard to put her down, be angry?)>React amusedly? (Smile at herprediciment, and inquire as to why this has happened?)>React passively? (Inquire what has happened?)>Write in...
>>3480467>React passively? (Inquire what has happened?)Our daughter acted the fool again ?
>>3480467>React amusedly? (Smile at herprediciment, and inquire as to why this has happened?)
>>3480467>React passively? (Inquire what
>>3480467>This meant moring sprints, weapon training, and learning where on a body to stab.I'm really pleased with our bodyguard/mistress/cohort. She is a good character>Amused
>>3482577>>3480467And by>React amusedI of course mean begin teasing our daughter for letting the household guard catch her doing whatever it was she was doing.
"So, Daughter of mine, where were you this time when the guard dragged you off of it? Or out from under it? Or out from inside it? And how did they manage to find you?"Your duaghter twists under the armoured arm of the guard, and sticks her tongue out. Eleshrika glares at her, and she immediately adopts a more sollumn expression."I was just trying to see if the nightinggales did roost up on the roof! So I could catch them, and sell them, like they do in the market!"The Guard rolls his eyes."She had managed to make a hole in the roof tiles and we found her in the process of moving a cage used to store chickens up to the hole, along with a jug of sherbet, 3 loaves of bread, and a basket of strawberries. These have since been returned to the kitchen."Grinning, you signal for the guard to put your daughter down."Now, Elesitha, if I remember correctly, it's time for your lessons. I'm sure that had nothing to do with your desire to go to the one place my guards don't patrol..."Indeed, she is late for her lessons with her...>Dancing Master. You are fairly certain the man is more comfotable with a knife than most instructors should be, but he is profficient at his craft.>Ettiquette Mistress. A dowager aunt of a minor house, now lecturing the young daughters of the nobility in how to behave. She serves the family out of tradition, her family have always provided tutors of this sort.>Tutor. The old scholar can't really keep up with your daughter physically, but he has a quick enough mind to keep her interested.>Her mother. Against form, you allowed the lessons from Eleshrika to continue, and they are bearing fruit...
>>3486132>Ettiquette Mistress. A dowager aunt of a minor house, now lecturing the young daughters of the nobility in how to behave. She serves the family out of tradition, her family have always provided tutors of this sort.
>>3486132>>Tutor. The old scholar can't really keep up with your daughter physically, but he has a quick enough mind to keep her interested.
>>3486132>Ettiquette Mistress. A dowager aunt of a minor house, now lecturing the young daughters of the nobility in how to behave. She serves the family out of tradition, her family have always provided tutors of this sort.All of my posts are from under a different ID. I wonder why.
>>3486410>>3486347>>3486198>>3486137Frowning, you brush a few stray pieces of hair away from your daughters face."Mistress Alaquo will be expecting you. So brush yourself down, and go to her. And if I find you have slipped off again, I'll ask your mother to hunt you down and hold you in place as Mistress Alaquo lectures you."Elesitha pouts, but another glare from her mother, she curtsies and hurries off. Eleshrika glances at the house guards, and then jerks her head."Keep an eye on her. I don't want her slipping off again, she is a lady, since her father has decided she will be."The guards look to you, but when you make no counter-order, they hurry off after Elesitha. You and Eleshrika continue walking towards the palace, her presence keeping away the various lesser merchants who look to catch your eye. Stepping across the threshold of your palace, you feel far more relaxed, as the familiar walls and mosaics, with the sound of fountains in the distance, washes over you. 3 slaves step closer, and each hold out 3 scrolls. Your major domo, a skilled man who claims to be from Sarnor, to the north, bows deeply."Master, we have three messages pleading your attention. One is a request for a meeting from Master Gahoria, he has a concern about his work. He feels... under appreciated. No disloyalty of course. The second is a report you ordered me to produce two weeks ago, on ways of increasing our profit margins and incomes. And the final, arrived shortly before you did, master. It bears the sigil of the High Temple. Which do you wish to see first?">The message from your Steelsmith?>The wealth report?>The message from the High Temple?>None, you'll attend them later?>Write in...
>>3486497>The message from your Steelsmith?
>>3486497>>The message from the High Temple?We just left there so it's either very good or very bad.
>>3486497We'll go through them all but start with>High Temple
>>3486497>The message from the High Temple?
>>3486497>>The message from the High Temple?
>>3486502>>3486586>>3486717>>3486938>>3487180"The High Temple. Lets see what the priests have to say."The Major Domo bows, and takes the scroll from the third slave, and presents it to you, after drawing a small silver knife, and handing it to you handle first. The scroll is made of fresh clean papyrus, and sealed with thick black wax that vaguely smells of copper as you cut through it, unrolling the scroll.-------------------------------To the Patriarch of the Eimos FamilyBy the order of the Black Goat, you and the Patriarch of House Maereot will recieve the honour of providing the sacrifice for the Festival of Founding, of either 1 head of cattle or 5 enemies of Qohor. Your willing sacrifice will be expected at least 5 days before the Festival of Founding. So Speaks the Black Goat!---------------------------------Stifling a curse, you hand the scroll back, and frown. Your family has no influence over the city watch, so no access to criminals without investment, and a full head of cattle would be even more expensive in coin, and maybe be seen as impious. Or you could seek to raid other places, and acquire "enemies" that way, which would be a risky but potentially excpetional move.>Read another message? (Which one)>Make a decision on the sacrifice needed for the Festival?
>>3489720Would Criminals be considered "enemies" of Qohor ?
>>3489724Enemies of Qohor is either people who seek to attack Qohor, or criminals. Families with influence over the city watch typically grab criminals from the jails. You don't have that influence, unfortunately.
>>3489775Is Farro's family influential enough to get us 5 criminals? Maybe he would do us a favor since we voted with him last time.
>>3489793His interests sit mainly outside the city, he is a merchant first and foremost. He's kind of the opposite of you, instead of inheriting stuff, he stole/earned/bribed his way up. If you want to find out more, in 1 days time you are going to a party he's throwing.
>>3489720I guess we can visit the city watch and make a bribe or two, but first let's read the wealth report.
>>3489720>Read another message? (Which one)Wealth
>>3489720>>Read another message?>Steelsmith
>>3489720>>>Read another message?>>Steelsmith