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So news! I'll be moving not next week, but the week after- so we'll have a thread May 1, but probably not on the 8th. We'll see how it pans out, but right now that's what it looks like. Still, I'll update on twitter if I can.

Archive here! Anyone looking to catch up, you can really ignore anything that isn't part of the reboot- you may see characters with the same names, but that's about as far as anything in the original 2k16 run is going to matter.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Strike%20Witches%202016

I think that's it, so let's get going!

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After your long flight, broken only by the short stopover at Elmendorf, the shower feels about as close to paradise as you’re comfortable with, A lot like a good shower after a tough game- or better, a good ice bath.

Of course, you don’t get to change into comfortable, if worn, civilian clothes, with a debriefing to go to as soon as you’re able to make it to the rooms upstairs, and of course there’s the already-traditional dinner to go to. It’s getting fairly late, but no so much so that you can’t get a decent dinner somewhere. Distantly, you wonder where Lotus would want to go.

Changing into a pair of duty khakis, you give yourself a once-over in the small mirror in your locker, noting that you don’t look too tired, and that a good cup of tea should get you through the rest of the day without a problem- and without throwing your sleeping pattern into complete chaos.

Lotus is waiting for you by the time you get out, her own clothing decidedly less military, with a pair of tight bluejeans below a simple white T-shirt and a pair of sneakers. She looks you up and down. “Damn.” She says, nodding appreciatively. “Your family really does have all the good genes. I feel kinda like I’m under dressed and way outta my league.” She laughs, though you’re pretty you detect actual nervousness and self-consciousness buried in there. Still, she walks next to you up to the classroom upstairs, where the colonel is already waiting. He checks the wall clock, then looks back over at you.

“Took your time, Lieutenant.” He says, simply. “Next time do me a favor and don’t spend so long in the shower.”

“Sorry, Sir.” You say, and he shrugs it off.

1/2
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“It don’t matter anymore. Just don’t do it again. Miss Earhart, we’re really going to have to see about uniform issue for you.” He says, looking at her attire- which, while plenty presentable enough, certainly isn’t regulation, even for witches. “We’ll get it handled later. Let’s go over your flight. What made you decide for an inland route up to your refuelling anchor?” He asks. “The Air force has more access to radar coverage over the country than they do out over the open ocean.”

[] We were trying to outguess them, sir. We knew they’d have better land-based radar, but we figured they’d be focusing their air search efforts over the coastal waters.
[] We wanted to be able to hide in the terrain as much as possible, sir. If they’d have found us over the ocean we could have had a welcoming committee waiting when we hit the range.
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>>3460583
>[X] We wanted to be able to hide in the terrain as much as possible, sir. If they’d have found us over the ocean we could have had a welcoming committee waiting when we hit the range.
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>>3460583
>[] We wanted to be able to hide in the terrain as much as possible, sir. If they’d have found us over the ocean we could have had a welcoming committee waiting when we hit the range.
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>>3460580
>[x] We wanted to be able to hide in the terrain as much as possible, sir. If they’d have found us over the ocean we could have had a welcoming committee waiting when we hit the range.
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>>3460583
>[x] We wanted to be able to hide in the terrain as much as possible, sir. If they’d have found us over the ocean we could have had a welcoming committee waiting when we hit the range.
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>[X] We wanted to be able to hide in the terrain as much as possible, sir. If they’d have found us over the ocean we could have had a welcoming committee waiting when we hit the range.
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>>3460583
>[x] We wanted to be able to hide in the terrain as much as possible, sir. If they’d have found us over the ocean we could have had a welcoming committee waiting when we hit the range.
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>>3460583
>[x] We were trying to outguess them, sir. We knew they’d have better land-based radar, but we figured they’d be focusing their air search efforts over the coastal waters.
"The more land-based radars they had, the lower the chances of them having something like an AWACS in the area as well."
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>>3460583
>[] We wanted to be able to hide in the terrain as much as possible, sir. If they’d have found us over the ocean we could have had a welcoming committee waiting when we hit the range.
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>>3460580
>[] We wanted to be able to hide in the terrain as much as possible, sir. If they’d have found us over the ocean we could have had a welcoming committee waiting when we hit the range.
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>>3460583
>[] We wanted to be able to hide in the terrain as much as possible, sir. If they’d have found us over the ocean we could have had a welcoming committee waiting when we hit the range.

STEALTH GOOSE
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>>3460583
>[x] We were trying to outguess them, sir. We knew they’d have better land-based radar, but we figured they’d be focusing their air search efforts over the coastal waters.
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Ok, votes closed!
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[x] We wanted to be able to hide in the terrain as much as possible, sir. If they’d have found us over the ocean we could have had a welcoming committee waiting when we hit the range.

“We wanted to be able to hide in the terrain as much as possible, sir.” You say. “If they’d have found us over the ocean, we could have had a welcoming committee waiting when we hit the range.”

He nods. “That was their game plan, too. The first hard fix the air force got on you was off the Canadian coast when you were tanking, and because of peacetime ROF, they weren’t able to maintain it when you went out to sea.” He says. “The RCAF is saying they had a radar fix on you over their territory southwest of Calgary, but they weren’t able to maintain the track for more than about ten minutes.”

You nod, noting that your plan worked out about as you’d hoped, though you are a bit disappointed to learn the Canadians were able to track you that far. You’d figured they were doing so, of course, but you’d still hoped you were able to disappear sooner than that. Even ten minutes is more than enough time to vector an intercept.

“There was no further air force contact until you were in the range.” the colonel says, finally bringing up the projector to show the terrain map of the Alaskan test range with the radar picture from the controlling AWACS aircraft overlaid. “None of the Alaskan early warning network was able to detect you, which means you were able to slot through some very small gaps in the coverage window, probably no more than five minutes before they got raptors in place to cover them. If you’d have continued overland, they’d have probably made you with this pair up here, near chicken. Fortunately for you, the defensive commander didn’t listen to the post commander of Elmendorf.”

You nod again- there’s more than one pair of raptors along the Canada-Alaska border, though most of them are in the southern part of the state. There’s markedly fewer along the sea coast- though the radar stations at Fire Island and Unalaska cover a large part of the southern coast.

“That leaves us to your range entrance. You decided to leave your active suite off, and rely on passive sensors. Why?”

[] We only had fixes on four radiating sets, sir, and were worried about possible backup.
[] Passive was going to be more than enough, sir. We knew where their radiating sets were and after they were engaged it wouldn’t have mattered anyway, because of the battlenet.
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>>3460671
>[X] Passive was going to be more than enough, sir. We knew where their radiating sets were and after they were engaged it wouldn’t have mattered anyway, because of the battlenet.
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>>3460671
>[] Passive was going to be more than enough, sir. We knew where their radiating sets were and after they were engaged it wouldn’t have mattered anyway, because of the battlenet.
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>>3460671
>[] We only had fixes on four radiating sets, sir, and were worried about possible backup.
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>>3460671
>[x] We only had fixes on four radiating sets, sir, and were worried about possible backup.
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>>3460671
>[] We only had fixes on four radiating sets, sir, and were worried about possible backup.
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>>3460671
>[x] We only had fixes on four radiating sets, sir, and were worried about possible backup.
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>>3460671
>[x] We only had fixes on four radiating sets, sir, and were worried about possible backup.
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>>3460671
>[x] We only had fixes on four radiating sets, sir, and were worried about possible backup.

Pretty sure this was our actual reasoning at the time.
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>>3460671
>[x] Passive was going to be more than enough, sir. We knew where their radiating sets were and after they were engaged it wouldn’t have mattered anyway, because of the battlenet.
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>>3460671
>[x] We only had fixes on four radiating sets, sir, and were worried about possible backup.
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>>3460671
>[x] We only had fixes on four radiating sets, sir, and were worried about possible backup.
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Ok, votes closed!
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Man, we're getting pretty good at doing things by the numbers aren't we?
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[x] We only had fixes on four radiating sets, sir, and were worried about possible backup.

“We only had fixes on four radars, sir, and we were worried about possible backup.” You say.

He nods. “As it happens, they were supposed to have a pair of B-1Rs up there with them, but both of them were grounded before they left mountain home, and they were using the better part of the raptor fleet they had available as their picket force.”

“At this point you engaged the only conventional assets they had in the range, the four lightnings. You got one of them clean with a sidewinder, range control saw the whole exchange there. Of course, they broke away when their backup showed up.” He narrates, as you watch the little arrowhead shapes move across the projection- you don’t recall it being nearly that fast paced, but the screen is a faithful rebuild of the events, built off the range sensors and data network. One of the lightning markers winks out as the computer declares it ‘dead’- and four more markers arrow into the twisting fight.

“That witch element was lead by Air Force Captain Erica Young, one of their best witches in Alaska. Her partner, the one you got the kill on, here, filed her AAR from FOB Nome, and has indicated her disbelief that you’re a rookie Wyvern jock.” He gives a tight little smile there, pleased enough. “They’ve got a reputation that you broke- they’re accusing us of lying and sending in a veteran wyvern crew.”

He moves the display to the next segment, where you reengage the lightnings. “So what happened here?” He asks. “Range records two clean kills on the remaining lightnings, but the third escaped the range complex. Any reason for that?”

[] I felt it was better to remain defensive, sir. The witches had caught up and going for a kill seemed unnecessary if we chased him out of the range.
[] We didn’t have time to kill him with the witches there, sir, not if we still wanted to hit the airfield target.
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>>3460779

Harhar, very funny. Just noting that we haven't pulled a Frank and decided to kill everything. We've been doing this more like Special Forces, getting in then getting out with destruction applied in just the right location so that it decimates enemy positions yet leaves us with ordnance in our bays.
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>>3460791
>[] We didn’t have time to kill him with the witches there, sir, not if we still wanted to hit the airfield target.
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>>3460791
>[] We didn’t have time to kill him with the witches there, sir, not if we still wanted to hit the airfield target.
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>>3460791
>[x] We didn’t have time to kill him with the witches there, sir, not if we still wanted to hit the airfield target.
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>>3460791
>[] We didn’t have time to kill him with the witches there, sir, not if we still wanted to hit the airfield target.
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>>3460791
>[x] We didn’t have time to kill him with the witches there, sir, not if we still wanted to hit the airfield target.
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>>3460791
>[] I felt it was better to remain defensive, sir. The witches had caught up and going for a kill seemed unnecessary if we chased him out of the range.
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>>3460791
>[] I felt it was better to remain defensive, sir. The witches had caught up and going for a kill seemed unnecessary if we chased him out of the range.
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>>3460791
>[X] We didn’t have time to kill him with the witches there, sir, not if we still wanted to hit the airfield target.
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>>3460791
>[x] We didn’t have time to kill him with the witches there, sir, not if we still wanted to hit the airfield target.
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>>3460791
>[x] I felt it was better to remain defensive, sir. The witches had caught up and going for a kill seemed unnecessary if we chased him out of the range.

>Her partner, the one you got the kill on, here, filed her AAR from FOB Nome, and has indicated her disbelief that you’re a rookie Wyvern jock
Smalltime
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>>3460791
>Wingmate to youngspawn
>Can't believe that she got whacked by a rookie and a civilian
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>>3460791
>[x] I felt it was better to remain defensive, sir. The witches had caught up and going for a kill seemed unnecessary if we chased him out of the range.
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>>3460792
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>>3460833
I'd watch that.
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>>3460791
>[x] We didn’t have time to kill him with the witches there, sir, not if we still wanted to hit the airfield target.
Also
>Youngspawn was the Wyvern Slayer
>Dunked their record and didn't even know it nor care.
TOP FUCKING KEK.
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>>3460825
>>Can't believe that she got whacked by a rookie and a civilian

To be fair, I would be shocked as well.
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>>3460791
>[] We didn’t have time to kill him with the witches there, sir, not if we still wanted to hit the airfield target.
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>>3460791
>[x] We didn’t have time to kill him with the witches there, sir, not if we still wanted to hit the airfield target.
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>>3460791
[] We didn’t have time to kill him with the witches there, sir, not if we still wanted to hit the airfield target.
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Ok, votes called!
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>>3460791
>[x] I felt it was better to remain defensive, sir. The witches had caught up and going for a kill seemed unnecessary if we chased him out of the range.

We do what Maman tells us. Remain defensive. Hold back. When war comes. When our allies are in danger, that is when every piece of intel the enemies have on our flying becomes irrelevant.
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>>3460860
Thirty seconds late. Nailed it.
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Aw, missed my chance.

>>3460791
>Her partner, the one you got the kill on, here, filed her AAR from FOB Nome, and has indicated her disbelief that you’re a rookie Wyvern jock.”
see pic
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[x] We didn’t have time to kill him with the witches there, sir, not if we still wanted to hit the airfield target.

“We didn’t have time to kill him with the witches there, sir, not if we still wanted to hit the airfield target.” You say, seeing Lotus nod out of the corner of your eye.

The colonel nods too. “Not a bad call.” He admits. “You were able to drive him out of the range, and the rules of engagement meant that he was unable to reenter. Of course, he also landed at Nome with less than a thousand pounds of fuel left, well below the air force’s peacetime ROF limit for that training range.”

He turns to the display, pointing at it. “Your bomb run on the airfield was less than stellar, however. Under normal scoring, that would be fifty out of a hundred at least. There’s some runway cratering, but the soviets during the war proved they were more than happy to use steel planking to repair damage like that, so had this been the real deal, odds are you wouldn’t have knocked it out for more than a few hours, at best. There were clean hits on some of the aircraft targets there, damage estimates you’d have knocked out three for good and taken at least five more offline for the short term. No damage to major base facilities, so the air control tower and the hangars would have remained intact.”

You nod- you’d known when you made the run it wasn’t going to be worth full points.

“The commando team got out of their aircraft without a problem, and their dropship was able to exit the range without incident, so full points there.” He turns back to you and the display shuts off. “All in all, Lieutenant, not a bad showing. Do either of you have any questions for me?”

Lotus nods. “Yes, uh... sir.” She says, hesitating for a second. “What am I supposed to do now? I don’t have anyplace to stay or anything like that, no one’s told me much of anything besides our meeting this morning.”

He nods. “I was going to get to that after we get done with your flight debrief.” He says. “Do you have any questions about what you just did?”

She shakes her head. “Oh, uh. No?” The last word comes out as a question more than anything, as if she’s not quite sure.

“What about you, Lieutenant?” He asks. “Any questions?”

[] No sir.
[] Yes, sir. (Write in)
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>>3460884
>[x] No sir.
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>>3460884
>[x] No sir.
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>>3460884
>[] Yes, sir. (Write in)

"Are we going to do simulated fleet defense missions against long-range Anti-ship missile attacks launched by bombers? The Soviets were fond of that during the War."
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>>3460884
>[x] No sir.
Eh, we've proven that we're decent at air to ground in previous hops. Not the best, but still a whole lot better than Frank.
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>>3460884
>>3460897
While I suspect his answer will be "I can't say" I'd still like to ask this.
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>>3460884
>[x] Yes, sir. Are we being marked down for not finishing the remaining three witches, despite out-flying them?
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>>3460884
>[x] Yes, sir. (Write in)
Why were the B-1Rs grounded? Did they find something in the previous crash that made them make that call or was it just to be safe?
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>>3460905
Switching to this
>>3460906
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>>3460884
>[x] No sir.
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>>3460897
>>3460902
It's not related to what we just did, which is what the Colonel is asking about.
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>>3460884
>[] Yes, sir. (Write in)
"Were we marked down for not knocking out or at least driving off the other three witches?"
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>>3460884
>[] No sir.
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>>3460884
>[X] No sir.
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>>3460884
>[] No sir.
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>>3460911

Then I completely misinteperted that. Regardless, the point does stand, the fleet will want to know how we fair against strikes like that.

We know for sure that at least one missile attack dealt major damage to the Saratoga, plus since Iceland got invaded by the Reds just like in Red Storm Rising, if the series of events that follows is accurate to the book, then that means a joint American-French battlegroup got its teeth smashed in.
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>>3460884
>[x] Yes, sir. (Write in)
Why were the B-1Rs grounded, if you don't mind me asking?
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Ok, votes called!
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[x] No sir.

“No, sir.” You say.

“Good. Now, You’re slated for a reflight with Commander Peterson tomorrow.” He says. “That will take place in the NTTR again, and will be an afternoon flight. After that, you’ll have final crew selection and the beginning of your workup phase.”

You nod.

“Until then, You’re free. Lieutenant Commander Earhart, you’re expected to remain here until after selection, at which point we’ll get you sorted out. Clear?”

She nods. “If I’m not selected, what happens?”

He smiles. “Well, right now there’s another Wyvern pilot about to start selection, and he’s due to hand in his wish list on Thursday, day after tomorrow. How do you feel about the Marine corps?”

She laughs. “I’m fine with them.” She says. “So I may be doing this again?”

He nods. “That reminds me, Lieutenant. We can’t release any witches on your list for flight before your final crew selection. If you no longer feel it’s necessary, we’ll cancel the reflight with the commander and you can make your final crew selection. However, because of the workup, it’s either a reflight or a flight with an alternate, we can’t allow both without a damned good reason.”

[] “I’d rather keep the reflight, sir- I owe the commander another shot.”
[] “I want an alternate flight, sir- I have a pretty good grasp on what the commander can do, and I want to fly with... “ (Select either Young or Wendy)
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>>3460988
>[x] “I’d rather keep the reflight, sir- I owe the commander another shot.”
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>>3460988
>[x] “I’d rather keep the reflight, sir- I owe the commander another shot.”
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>>3460988
>[] “I want an alternate flight, sir- I have a pretty good grasp on what the commander can do, and I want to fly with... “ (Select either Young or Wendy)

I'd say Young just for the hell of it, because well, the MC and Young both come from pretty badass Lineages.
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>>3460988
>[x] “I’d rather keep the reflight, sir- I owe the commander another shot.”

We do. We botched the intended mission.
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>>3460988
>[X] “I want an alternate flight, sir- I have a pretty good grasp on what the commander can do, and I want to fly with... “ (Young)
We already know what Danielle can do and discussed this at length.
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>>3460988
>[x] “I’d rather keep the reflight, sir- I owe the commander another shot.”
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>>3460988
>[x] “I’d rather keep the reflight, sir- I owe the commander another shot.”
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>>3460988
>[x] “I’d rather keep the reflight, sir- I owe the commander another shot.”
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>>3460988
>[] “I want an alternate flight, sir- I have a pretty good grasp on what the commander can do, and I want to fly with... “ (Select either Young or Wendy)
>Wendy
Why not?
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>>3460988
>[x] “I’d rather keep the reflight, sir- I owe the commander another shot.”
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>>3460988
>[] “I want an alternate flight, sir- I have a pretty good grasp on what the commander can do, and I want to fly with... “ (Select either Young or Wendy)
Wendy would be fun just to see how it would go, but I'm not against Young either.
She got her run. Pains of being the first.
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>>3460988
[] “I want an alternate flight, sir- I have a pretty good grasp on what the commander can do, and I want to fly with... “ (Select either Young or Wendy)
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>>3460988
>[x] “I’d rather keep the reflight, sir- I owe the commander another shot.”
It's the right thing to do.
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>>3460988
>[] “I want an alternate flight, sir- I have a pretty good grasp on what the commander can do, and I want to fly with... “ (Young)
DESU, we can extrapolate what Danielle can do from our botched flight with her. Now it's time to see if we have a shot at mixing two great pilot families together.
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>>3461010
Young, sorry, forgot choice
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>>3460988
>[] “I want an alternate flight, sir- I have a pretty good grasp on what the commander can do, and I want to fly with Young“

We did get a feel for Daniel's ability, it was on us that failed, not her
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>>3460988
>[] “I want an alternate flight, sir- I have a pretty good grasp on what the commander can do, and I want to fly with... “ (Wendy)
I don't really expect her to be a proper pick, but I want to see how we perform.
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>>3460988
>[] “I want an alternate flight, sir- I have a pretty good grasp on what the commander can do, and I want to fly with... “ (Select either Young or Wendy)
I really want to fly with Wendy because she's one of the few returning characters from 69.

I know we voted to give Danielle the reflight last time but we absolutely must choose one or the other I would rather see Ghost writing something new.
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>>3460988
>[] “I’d rather keep the reflight, sir- I owe the commander another shot.”
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>>3460988
>[x] “I want an alternate flight, sir- I have a pretty good grasp on what the commander can do, and I want to fly with... “ (Young)
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>>3460988
>[x] “I want an alternate flight, sir- I have a pretty good grasp on what the commander can do, and I want to fly with... “
>[x]Young
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>>3460995
Na, they botched telling us what they wanted us to do
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>>3461047
Either way, it was admittedly botched.
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>>3461049
You're not wrong, though specifically I would say the mission itself was not botched - just didn't give the people watching the show they wanted but didn't tell us about. I think what we did might have been a better test of her magic anyway.
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I think that going with Young might be the better option just so we can get an idea of what she has to offer. Who knows it might even be fun.
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Ok, votes called!
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Coming to think of it guys, this is a pretty major decision, would you prefer if I left this one up overnight to discuss, or do you want another post this evening? I'm game for either, though I do need to make some food here, haha!
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Let it run overnight
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>>3461077
No one's going to change their mind on this, so discussion is worthless.

Prolonging the voting phase would only allow others that couldn't make it yet to vote or samefagging to start.
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>>3461077
I'm happy with either. I'm just sitting here working on my own things.
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>>3461083

I'd beg to differ, its about dead even actually.
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>>3461077
Either's fine.
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>>3461085
It only looks dead even. There's a pretty split vote on who specifically to take as an alternate. Also, I do want ghost to have more time for questions rather than trying to belt out another post.
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>>3461085
Perfect ground for samefagging. This vote should've never come up.

It was already hard enough to get it down to three and now that "fight" is essentially moot.
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>>3461069
Ehhh, I dunno. Young's stated talents on paper was sensors and detection, sounds like more of the same thing we got from Danielle and Lotus with a slightly different flavour.

Wendy has racing and test pilot experience and has the ability to push equipment beyond it's normal operating limits. Which I assume to mean performing higher than spec without destroying itself or operating while damaged. That sounds way more interesting and game changing like Kyou to me because you're starting to edge into things that should be impossible. That ability is *exactly* what would have saved us from a lot of trouble in the previous quest.
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>>3461094
I don't disagree. That's why I want to see Wendy. I don't consider her a serious contender, but it wold be interesting to see. Plus we don't need the extra flight with Danielle. The mission didn't go how the brass wanted, but she did her job well.
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>>3461077
I'd say another post
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>>3461077
Nah, ultimately I kind of want to just get to final crew selection at this point.
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>>3461077
Post more, we need to keep moving.
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Ok, cool. votes called, post going up. >>3461113
>>3461117
>>3461118
>>3461094
>>3461089
>>3461084
>>3461083
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[x] “I’d rather keep the reflight, sir- I owe the commander another shot.”

“I’d rather keep the reflight, sir.” You say, after a moment’s consideration- Wendy, you know, is a champion air racer, and the things she’s gotten her, admittedly heavily modified Spitfire to do is unreal, and Young- well, it’s hard to be in aviation without at least a little recognition of the family name. “I owe the commander another shot.”

He nods. “If that’s how you feel about it, that’s fine Lieutenant. Your reflight is tomorrow, wheels-up at fourteen hundred. With that figured out, you two are dismissed. Lieutenant, why don’t you and the commander go grab chow somewhere and then you can take her by admin and get her her keys to her quarters. Commander Earhart, you’ll be staying on post at least until the weekend, a little longer if Lieutenant Baker also wants to fly with you.”

She nods.

“That’s all. Dismissed.” He says, and you close up your own notes, standing and walking out behind Lotus.

She pauses in the hallway, turning to look back at you. “So, dinner?” She laughs. “I’ve never been ordered on a date before.”

You shrug. “It’s kinda a thing.” You admit.

She nods. “Oh, no, I get it. Get to know each other and all. Makes sense. So if you don’t mind, there’s this place down by the aircraft carrier they turned into that museum, they make the most amazing burgers, oh my god.”

“Santas?” You ask, and she nods excitedly.

“You know the place!” She says. “Oh my god their burgers are so good. Even their veggie burger is amazing, and they’re one of the only places that can make a good veggie burger that doesn’t make me hate my diet. Do you want to go there?”

[] Sure, sounds like a plan.
[] I was thinking someplace else- maybe some place closer?
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>>3461144
>[x] I was thinking someplace else- maybe some place closer?

Santa's feels sacred for some reason. We can cook The Chili for a potential backseater, but Santa's just feels too much.
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>>3461144
>[x] Sure, sounds like a plan.
Wonder if the old man is still running the place himself.
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>>3461144
>[X] Sure, sounds like a plan.
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>>3461144
>[x] Sure, sounds like a plan.
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>>3461144
>[X] Sure, sounds like a plan.
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>>3461144
>[] Sure, sounds like a plan.
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>>3461144
>[x] Sure, sounds like a plan.
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>[X] Sure, sounds like a plan.

You never know, we might run into some familiar faces.
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>>3461144
>[x] Sure, sounds like a plan.
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>>3461144
>[x] Sure, sounds like a plan.

We've had a special dinner with each. Family, Intimate dining via the military, let's take the casual homestyle girl to a restaurant our family considers home.
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>>3461144
>[X] Sure, sounds like a plan.
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>>3461144
>[] Sure, sounds like a plan.
>>3461148
no, it was stated he passed, IIRC
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>>3461144
>[] Sure, sounds like a plan.
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>>3461144

[] Sure, sounds like a plan.

BORGAR
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Ok, votes called! This will be the last one of the night, guys.
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[x] Sure, sounds like a plan.

You nod. “Sure, sounds like a plan.”

Lotus unleashes the brightest of smiles- you can imagine it’s won her more than a few admirers. “Oh, great! Let’s go though, I’m really hungry!”

You nod again, leading her through the admin building to the front doors, where you’re stopped by the sailor on duty. “Excuse me, lieutenant?”

You turn, and he holds up a set of keys. “Colonel Jackson called down, sir, said you were going to need to use one of the cars for a couple hours to head into town.” He very carefully doesn’t stare at Lotus, though you can clearly tell what he’s thinking. “You’ve signed one out before?”

You nod, waiting for him to pass you the clipboard, where you quickly sign your name and rank, and destination. Since you’re just going to dinner in town, you don’t bother filling out the return date box- you’re not going to be gone overnight. The seaman accepts it back with a nod and hands you the keys. “The gray one, sir, second from last off to the right out of the doors.”

“Thanks.” You say, turning to walk out of the building, pausing when you exit to put your cover on your head.

“Oh man, it’s nice out.” Lotus says, stretching, arching her back and sucking in a lungful of air. “I could get used to this place! Palmdale is always so hot.”

You do have to admit the climate here is pretty nice- it’s far less humid than home, at least. The pair of you walk over to the gray sedan- a four door dodge that’s probably about ten years old- and climb in, noting that it’s got about three quarters of a tank of gas. More than enough.

“Man, I can’t imagine how busy they’re going to be with another wyvern startup.” She says as you pull off base. “I wonder what would happen if they didn’t lock out witches from selection. Like, if two pilots both picked the same witch.” She laughs. “I guess that’s why they do that though. Seems like a recipe for trouble if they didn’t. Kinda stinks for us though, I mean, if you’re picked for two trials. Paid leave only lasts so long!”

You frown at that. “They don’t count it as getting activated?” you ask.

She shakes her head. “Nah. Well, not normally. You go on a leave of absence if you’re reserve or whatever and get called up. I just took some paid vacation time to come down here, but I’d have to extend it if the other guy wants to fly with me too.” She shrugs. “I guess it’s ok, I’m getting a paycheck from the navy for the time I’m here too, so it’s not too bad.”

You nod. “That’s good.”

1/2
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“The worst part is that I guess they kinda arrest you if you’re selected as a crew.” She laughs. “The colonel said they take away all your privileges to leave the base for a little while, and you get shuttled around by some marines or something.”

You nod- the same rule applies to you. For the first month or so after your witch is plugged, you’re both pretty closely monitored by a mental health team and the security personnel. It’s not unheard of for people to react poorly to the MIU link and attempt to desert and run in panic before they’ve gotten used to it. You’re better trained than that, but you can see where they’re worried about Lotus- she is, effectively, a civilian afterall.

“Oh well.” She says. “I guess it makes sense, with how much money they’re putting into you if you do get selected and don’t back out. MIU jacks can’t be cheap!” She laughs again, then looks at the skyline of the city.

“Oh man, San Diego is always so pretty at sunset.” She says. “I get down here a couple of times a year, and I always try to eat at this place when I do. Their burgers are amazing, Morgan.”

You nod, with a slight smile. “I know.” you say. “I’ve been there a few times.”

“Oh you have? Awesome!” She says, laughing again. “So you know how good it is! No wonder you were so easy to convince. They’ve got so many good burgers there, it really makes me regret being on a diet.” She laughs again, patting a thigh. “After this morning I’m really going to have to watch it, too! man, watching all that flub go racing for the bottom in high-G is the worst.”

That earns a slight grin.

“So how often do you get to eat here?” She asks. “I mean, this is the first time you’ve been in Sandy Eggo, right?”

[] I’ve had it a few times, when we came to see Dad’s wife come home on cruise or one of my sisters went out.
[] Just a couple times, when I’d come visit family in the area.
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Ok guys, that's it for the night! Just as a heads up again, we'll be carrying on into Saturday this week to make up for the late start. I'll be around a little to field questions if you guys have any, though I'm going to be packing a couple boxes and getting a couple things sorted, so I may be slow to respond or not be on at all again till tomorrow!
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>>3461222
>[x] I’ve had it a few times, when we came to see Dad’s wife come home on cruise or one of my sisters went out.
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>>3461222
>[] I’ve had it a few times, when we came to see Dad’s wife come home on cruise or one of my sisters went out.
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>>3461222
>[x] Just a couple times, when I’d come visit family in the area.
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>>3461222
>[] I’ve had it a few times, when we came to see Dad’s wife come home on cruise or one of my sisters went out.
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>>3461222
>[] I’ve had it a few times, when we came to see Dad’s wife come home on cruise or one of my sisters went out.
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>>3461222
>[x] I’ve had it a few times, when we came to see Dad’s wife come home on cruise or one of my sisters went out.
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>>3461222
>[] I’ve had it a few times, when we came to see Dad’s wife come home on cruise or one of my sisters went out.
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>>3461222
>[X] I’ve had it a few times, when we came to see Dad’s wife come home on cruise or one of my sisters went out.
>>3461226
Thanks for the run boss.
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>>3461226
Thanks for the run, Chief. Can't wait for that re-flight.
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>>3461222
>[x] Just a couple times, when I’d come visit family in the area.

>>3461226
Thanks for the run Ghost!
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>>3461222
>[X] I’ve had it a few times, when we came to see Dad’s wife come home on cruise or one of my sisters went out.

>“I’ve been there a few times.”
>“I mean, this is the first time you’ve been in Sandy Eggo, right?”
OK, now she's a little too airheaded.
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Sessions over, post waifus.

>>3461110
>That's why I want to see Wendy. I don't consider her a serious contender, but it wold be interesting to see.
Agreed. I'll admit I did have an additional motive for voting that way. Beyond being a returning character who didn't have much time to shine and the whole waifu thing, I think Wendy deserves a chance because this might be her one and only opportunity to fly in a wyvern. She is by far the oldest witch on the current SIO candidate list and it's doubtful that any other pilot would pick her without the familiarity we already share. On the other hand if she gets to fly with us she'll be proven to be one of the witches good enough to fly with a Bishop, just maybe not the *best*.

Oh well, maybe she can still be a test pilot for Merlin or something.

>>3461077
>>3461226
The vote is already over but I think you could have handled that better. By my count Danielle reflight won with 9 votes, but Young had 6, Wendy had 3 and there was one vote for a new flight that didn't state a preference. If you add up all of the non-Danielle votes it would have resulted in 10 vs 9. But since you're apparently counting each subchoice separately it was doomed to fail from the start. It's also awkward to begin with because it's a reversal of a previous vote where the majority chose to do a reflight and it was already confirmed in character.

Not begrudging the result or anything (I DID vote for a Danielle reflight several threads ago) but it just seemed awkward to me.
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>>3461222

>[x] I’ve had it a few times, when we came to see Dad’s wife come home on cruise or one of my sisters went out.
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so after I've watched the new strike witches episodes...I have to wonder, how large of a lady boner would Young get when she realizes that our dude is a cook?
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>>3461313

I agree. The whole way it was handled was just awkward.
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>>3461222
>[] I’ve had it a few times, when we came to see Dad’s wife come home on cruise or one of my sisters went out.
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>>3461222
>[x] Just a couple times, when I’d come visit family in the area.
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>>3461313
I have no preference for Danielle, but the majority only chose to consider a reflight, not to lock one in, and that vote was without the “either or” caveat. I’m just pleased that the selection isn’t being dragged out for an extra week.

That said, I could see the vote being a little more representative if it eliminated the lowest option in a first round and just showed the top 2 for a second round of votes... not that I care enough about this to want to spend this much time voting. Is this what moderates feel like? They must be such hollow creatures.
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>>3461690

I agree, honestly I was hoping to see Young and going by the votes, Danielle technically lost. Doesn't feel right if you know what I mean.
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>>3461866
Honestly the whole selection process has gone on long enough already. We need to actually move forward with the plot now, which means re-flight with Danielle and then crew selection.
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>>3461949

Oh for the love of God, I am saying that based on a technicality we should not have our reflight with Danielle because as >>3461313 pointed out, in terms of votes for Danielle and non-Danielle votes, Danielle lost by one vote.

Yet due to the way that >>3461127 tallied the votes, it was effectively rigged.
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Is that a harsh thing to say? Perhaps and maybe, its overly harsh, but its just, ugh, I hate it when results get skewed like that because they got counted a certain way however when you counted them a different way you get totally different results.
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>>3462185

Hi, welcome to voting systems. The are all inherently flawed, you just have to pick which flaws you're okay with.
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>>3462185
Really, I just looked at it as rather than a two option vote, a three option vote, which is very common, and not rigged. Danielle’s reflight won the three option vote.
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>>3462198
>>3462217

Yes all voting systems are flawed, but the way I saw this one was as a two option vote in setup, not a three option vote had there been three options specifically listed instead of two options with the second one being open-ended, I wouldn't be having a problem, hell if this wasn't as major of a decision then I wouldn't be having a problem. But since it was setup in the way I see it as a two-option vote and a major decision, I got a problem with the result.
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>>3462260

The way I am going on about this might have something to do with where I live which is Florida and let me tell you, vote recounts happen during almost every election year and they have sometimes caused the result of political races to flip.

I guess I am also not happy about the way it was executed since it was such a big decision.
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>>3462260
Well, as a teacher, I always tell my students that Every question is a reading question. You won’t believe how many questions students get wrong because they didn’t properly read the instructions. Even on math tests. Read the instructions, and make sure you know exactly what the question is.
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>>3462260
I'm with this. I won't lose sleep over the result, though. I just feel like if Ghost was counting it as a three option vote, then doing the flight with Wendy or Young should have been separate options.
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>>3462286

I am in complete agreement, had a flight with Wendy or Young been separate options, I would concede the point, even if I am not happy about the result. But with the setup of the vote, I am not happy about the result because of how it was setup and executed.
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>>3462301
>>3462286
It was perfectly fair. It actually says in the vote option:
[] “I want an alternate flight, sir- I have a pretty good grasp on what the commander can do, and I want to fly with... “ (Select either Young or Wendy)

>(Select either Young or Wendy)

Ghost made it perfectly clear that it was a three option vote.
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>>3462286
>I just feel like if Ghost was counting it as a three option vote, then doing the flight with Wendy or Young should have been separate options.
The alternate flight option specifically said to select either Young or Wendy
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>>3462360

Well shit, I actually didn't notice that part. Not surprised actually. Its the lead-up for Finals Week at College, between studying working on final projects and such, it turns your brains to jello. So what I thought was a two option vote was actually a three option, god I feel like I made an ass out of myself.

However, I also feel that at the very least we should give Young or Wendy a shot. It doesn't feel right otherwise if you get my meaning.
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>>3462417

Stop bitching because you can't read.
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>>3462439
He got the point. You didn’t have to try to drive it home so rudely.
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>>3462440

Yeah I got the point, just, I should've seen it better. Ugh, but that's college finals for ya I guess.
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Ok guys, votes called!
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>named after the vain queen Cassiopeia in Greek mythology, who boasted about her unrivaled beauty.

Threadly reminder.
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[x] I’ve had it a few times, when we came to see Dad’s wife come home on cruise or one of my sisters went out.

“I’ve had it a few times, when we came to town to see Dad’s wife come home from a cruise or one of my sisters going out.”

“Your Dad’s wife?” Lotus asks. “That’s- “ She pauses. “Oh, I’m sorry. I forgot.”

You shrug. “No big.”

“So I guess you don’t get along with them?”

You have to think about that one. While there’s never really been any mistake you’re not any of their kids, they’ve never been cold or distant, either. You’re more like a stepson to most of them, and all of them dealt with it differently. Rachel was never afraid to yell at you when you deserved it, or include you in family activities when they happened, Katya was just as willing to include you in her schemes as she was your sisters. Ice was perhaps the most standoffish of them, but even she was happy to talk, at least when you got a little older, and your conversations turned to the navy. You’d always gotten the opinion she would have preferred it if the navy was a more professional body, but it’s hard to argue with tradition at this point.

You’re also not too sure how much you want to tell her- you did just meet her, afterall. Still, you can’t imagine she wouldn’t get friction with parents, even if yours is probably of a different sort.

[] We get along well enough, I guess.
[] Dad’s side of the family never was real comfortable with me.
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>>3462892
>[x] We get along well enough, I guess.

There's never been any indication as of yet that they don't get along with us. In fact, given the circumstances, we get along rather well.
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>>3462892
>[x] We get along well enough, I guess.
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>>3462892
>[] We get along well enough, I guess.
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>>3462892
>[x] We get along well enough, I guess.
>>3462905
While I'm with you on that we haven't seen any of the old 89 waifus yet. They may not be as enamored with us as the siblings are. I'm sure we'll learn in due time.
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>>3462892

[X] We get along well enough, I guess.
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>>3462892
>[x] We get along well enough, I guess.
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>>3462892
>[x] We get along well enough, I guess.
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>>3462922
In this post Ghost literally described our usual interactions with all 3 said waifus. Take that as you will.
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>>3462929
... Huh, so he did. I missed, that entire post somehow basically. I need more sleep I guess.
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>>3462892
>[] We get along well enough, I guess.
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>>3462892
>[x] We get along well enough, I guess.
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>>3462892
>[x] We get along well enough, I guess.
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Ok, votes called!
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[] We get along well enough, I guess.

“We get along well enough, I guess.” You say. “I grew up mostly with mom, I only really lived with them as a young kid before she got out.”

Lotus nods. “Yeah, I know how that goes. I never really spent much time with my dad either.” She shrugs. “No sense in worrying about it, though, right?”

You nod. “Yeah, probably not.”

“Oh man, I’m so hungry!” she says, changing the subject away from family. “I think I may cheat on my diet just a teensy bit here, I don’t get to eat here much. Just when we’ve got something we’re flying into or out of Halsey field or Miramar. It’d be pretty exiciting to be based here, if it works out that way.”

She laughs, suddenly. “But I guess wyverns aren’t really based anywhere, are they? What did you think of the flight this morning? It seems strange they sent us out so far, especially if they knew I could do that. The wyvern’s alright as a multirole airplane, but it seems kind of wasted doing that.”

You blink- you’d been thinking along the same lines. Of course, you kept coming back to one end user that may want that kind of thing- SOCOM. Long range, incredibly precise flying over hostile terrain to hit a specific target or raise hell in a particular block of airspace... you can see where they’d apply it. Of course, you have no proof of that, and given the focus on limiting collateral damage, the fleet would probably be just as happy to use it- you could whack an airbase in Syria or a terrorist leader’s compound in Pakistan just as easily and deniably as anything else, and shoot down anything trying to stop you to boot.

[] I think it’s SOCOM.
[] Not really, not for targets in hard to hit spots.
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>>3463082
>[x] I think it’s SOCOM.
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>[x] I think it’s SOCOM.

Those guys are probably foaming at the mouth at the idea of a dedicated Super-plane support asset for all their Spec Ops needs.
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>>3463082
>[] I think it’s SOCOM.
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>>3463082
>[x] I think it’s SOCOM.

Ghost subtly letting us choose our future mission profiles. I see what you're doing there...
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>>3463082
>[x] I think it’s SOCOM.
If this is subtly, or not, letting us choose our future mission profiles I am all for doing some SOCOM work. They're good people.
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>>3463082
>[] I think it’s SOCOM

I KNEW IT! COMMANDO WYVERNS!
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>>3463082
>[x] I think it’s SOCOM.
The idea of the son of the mother of night flying the world's deadliest fighter for air support must have the SOCOM community harder than terminator armour.
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>>3463082
>[x] I think it’s SOCOM.
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>>3463082
>[x] Not really, not for targets in hard to hit spots.
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>>3463082
>[] I think it’s SOCOM.
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>>3463082
>[] I think it’s SOCOM.

More power to the SF Boys
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>>3463082
>[] I think it’s SOCOM.
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ok, votes called!
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[x] I think it’s SOCOM.

“I think it’s SOCOM.” You say, realizing, of course what that means- SOCOM was very much your mother’s haunt. The more you think about it, the more it makes sense- who else would ask for that kind of mission profile? You’re sure of it, and, as you park the car, you realize that it means you’d be very firmly in her sphere of influence. She may have been out for almost twenty years, but she, like your father, is very much a thing of legend- and unlike your father, still throws her weight around some.

“Really?” Lotus asks, then nods. “Yeah, I guess that makes sense. But do you really think I could fly with them? I’m a civilian, right?”

You shrug. “You’re cleared into the wyvern program.” You point out- there’s enough top secret data about the fighter that you can’t imagine she wouldn’t qualify for whatever SOCOM wanted, either.”

She nods. “Yeah, and I guess I do enough flying for skunkworks too.” She says- which, of course, is a good point as well. She’s probably cleared into more programs than you are, all told.

“Oh man, I’m starved.” She says, starting towards the front doors of Santa’s, where the hostess is standing by her station just outside on the front deck.

“Hiya!” She greets. “Two?”

You nod.

“Is there a spot on the top deck?” Lotus asks, and the girl looks down at the screen embedded in her podium before nodding.

“Mhmm!” She says. “Follow me.”

“Oh good!” Lotus says to you. “I love it up there, you get the sea breeze and it’s not as loud.”

The top deck is pretty quiet already. It’s fairly late on a weekend night, afterall- all that’s up here is tourists, for the most part. You make out a couple of military families, and you can feel the eyes lingering on you, though you’re the only one in uniform. With Lotus in civilian clothes, it’s a lot harder for them to make you out, you think- you look like any other Lieutenant Junior Grade.

You take a seat near the exterior wall of the building, one that’s got a few pictures- including a few you recognize. One, taken just postwar, with all of VF-3 together- a squadron picture, taken in front of the paired wyverns of the unit. Lotus catches your gaze and blinks. “Hey!” She says, perhaps a bit more loudly than you’d like. “That’s spellcaster, right? Your dad’s unit.”

It’s only poor timing that your waitress was walking up at the same time. She looks down at you and smiles. “I was wondering if Stacy was right.” She says, smiling. “You ready to order, Morgan?”

“Wait... They know you here? Like you’re a regular?” Lotus asks, looking back and forth between you and your waitress.

[] Yeah.
[] Not really a regular, no.
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>>3463293
>[X] Yeah.

Let's be honest about it.
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>>3463293
>[X] Yeah.
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>>3463293
>[x] Not really a regular, no.
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>>3463293
>[x] Not really a regular, no.

Can't really honestly say we come here enough to be a regular, but they do know us. Put it politely like that.
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>>3463293
>[] Yeah.
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>>3463293
[] Yeah
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>>3463293
>[x] Yeah.
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>>3463293
>[X] Yeah.
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>>3463293
>[] Yeah.
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>>3463293
>[x] Yeah.
Frank probably takes any excuse to come here when possible, and chances are that we get roped in with him.
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>>3463293
>[x] Not really a regular, no.
Morgan isn't, but Frank certainly was.
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>>3463293
>[] Yeah.
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>>3463293
>[x] Yeah.
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>>3463293
>[x] Not really a regular, no.
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>>3463293
>[] Yeah.

YOU HAVE A REGULAR, DON'T LIE
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ok, votes called!
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>>3463293
>[X] Yeah.
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[x] Yeah.

You sigh, then nod. “Yeah.” You say. It’s not the whole truth of the story- you’re not really a regular in that they see you very often, maybe once or twice a year, at best- but there’s a very strong military connection here, especially to the wartime members of a few squadrons, including VF-3. There was really no way around it- they knew who you were when your dad brought you here for the first time back in the 90s, and they’ve known ever since.

“He’s not going to tell you the whole story.” The waitress says with a smile. “We watched him grow up.”

You sigh again, ordering your usual, while Lotus orders what is, perhaps, one of the most unhealthy things on the menu- a Sloppy Jessica. While you don’t blame her, you’re also pretty sure it constitutes cheating on her diet more than a little bit.

“They watched you grow up, huh?” She asks with a smile. “So you’ve been here more than a few times.”

You shake your head. “Not really. Dad used to bring us here when we were seeing Ice or Stasya or Lilya off on a cruise, or welcoming them home from one. Never more than a couple times a year.”

“But it’s been spread out for a long time.” Lotus says, nodding. “I get it.” She laughs. “See, this is the kind of thing I wish I had, instead of what mom’s name gets me. Hollywood house parties are alright, but mom was never much better than B-list at best, and she’s nowhere near that now.” She hakes her head. “Kinda wonder what it would have been like if she hadn’t sided with Jane against the rest of the US.”

She laughs again. “Of course, it doesn’t help that I didn’t follow her, either, and took my commission. Never could quite bring myself to sign on the dotted line to really join up though.” She smiles. “And now look where I am!”

“World works in strange ways like that.” You say, and she laughs again.

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“Who are you telling!” She says. “Oh man, if I’d have told the guys at the plant I was gonna see Merlin Wells and fly with Morgan Bishop they’d have flipped. Wells is still a legend at the plant, they miss her.” She laughs. “But I guess I understand, from how they made it sound, she’s a real sweetheart. Hard not to love her, right?”

You nod. “Yeah, that does sound like her.” You say.

Lotus laughs again. “I wonder if I’ll get a chance to meet her?” She says. “I mean, it sounded like we just missed her this morning.”

“I’m sure you will.” You say. “She’s heavily involved with every Wyvern startup.”

“Oh, so even if we don’t mesh, if the other guy wants to fly with me I might meet her then?” She asks. “Cool! Yeah, according to them she’s like everyone’s crush and kid sister rolled into one package.” She laughs, smiling. “Of course, that plant’s full of a bunch of engineers and fab guys, so anything with nice curves is gonna get a lot of attention. They all bitch every time I go on vacation!” She laugh again. “What about you, what do you do for fun?”

[] I like to travel, mostly.
[] Cook, play guitar, play some sports. the usual stuff, I guess.
[] You know. Little bit of this, little bit of that. I like trying new things.
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>>3463464
>[x] Cook, play guitar, play some sports. the usual stuff, I guess.
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>>3463464
>[x] Cook, play guitar, play some sports. the usual stuff, I guess.
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>>3463464
>[X] Cook, play guitar, play some sports. the usual stuff, I guess.
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>>3463464
>[] I like to travel, mostly.
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>>3463464
>[] Cook, play guitar, play some sports. the usual stuff, I guess.

ALL AMERICAN HOUSE HUSBAND
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>>3463464
>[X] Cook, play guitar, play some sports. the usual stuff, I guess.
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>>3463464
>[x] Cook, play guitar, play some sports. the usual stuff, I guess.
pic related
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>>3463464
>[] Cook, play guitar, play some sports. the usual stuff, I guess.
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>>3463464
>[] Mostly cooking and the occasional bit of hunting, used to do sports but haven't had the time lately.
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>>3463464
[] Cook, play guitar, play some sports. the usual stuff, I guess
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>>3463464
>[x] Cook, play guitar, play some sports. the usual stuff, I guess.
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>>3463464
>>[x] Cook, play guitar, play some sports. the usual stuff, I guess.
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>>3463464
>[x] Cook, play guitar, play some sports. the usual stuff, I guess.
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Ok, votes called!
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>>3463464
>I like to post on imageboards
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>>3463635
>Morgan the oldfag
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[x] Cook, play guitar, play some sports. the usual stuff, I guess.

“Cook, play guitar, some sports.” You shrug. “The usual stuff, I guess.”

“Really?” She sounds surprised. “I’d have figured you were out doing all kinds of things with your parents being who they are and all, no offense.”

You shrug. “None taken.”

“I guess you probably did, now that I think about it.” She says. “Travel a lot, that kind of thing. Right?”

You nod- being fair, you did- you saw plenty of your aunts in Japan, for example, spent some time in France while your mother was working with the DGSE, that kind of thing.

She nods, knowingly. “Yeah, so it’s not as fun cos it’s always family. I get that. It’s like being in Hollywood for me. It gets old after a while. You said you play guitar?”

You nod.

“Oh cool! what kind? Electric?”

“Either.” You say. “I learned to play blues guitar early, but I’ve picked up other styles. I still play mostly blues though.”

She nods. “I can see it.” She says with a smile. “So do you have it with you?”

You shake your head. “No, they’re at my mom’s house in Louisiana still.”

“Yeah, that makes sense.” She says. “Too easy to get damaged moving around all the time. I guess I’m lucky like that, I haven’t moved around much. Just to Palmdale when I got hired, and I’ve lived there ever sense. I guess that’s not much of a move for you, is it?” She laughs.

“I mostly lived with my mom full time.” You say. “I’d spend a couple months in the summer up with dad’s family, and there were a couple summers I spent with my Aunt Jessica in Japan with my sisters.”

“Your aunt Jessica- Oh right, the princess consort?” She nods. “I met her once, we were doing a demonstration for the imperial military with the F/B-22. She’s pretty high energy, I liked her a lot. The rest of them were pretty quiet though. At least when we do a demonstration here, the generals are pretty talkative.” She laughs. “And flirty! Well, kinda. They always seem like they’re willing to make a pass, but when you flirt back they lock up!”

She pauses. “Well, I imagine if YOU flirted back they wouldn’t know what to do, but you know what I mean!”

You nod.

“Man, I’m going to be glad to get back to the plant after this!” She says, laughing. “They’re never gonna believe I got to replay the party trick! Ah, and getting to fly in the Wyvern, man.”She shakes her head. “Better than sex! Well, almost. Depends on who with, I guess.” She looks about ready to say something else, but the waitress comes back with the food and drinks- ice water for you, a coke for her.

[] What makes you think you’re going back to the plant?
[] So you don’t want to fly for the Navy?
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>>3463670
>[] So you don’t want to fly for the Navy?
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>>3463670
>[X] So you don’t want to fly for the Navy?
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>>3463670
>[] What makes you think you’re going back to the plant?

NO, SUNSHINE GOOSE, DON'T LEAVE
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>>3463670
>[X] So you don’t want to fly for the Navy?
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>>3463670
>[x] So you don’t want to fly for the Navy?
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>>3463670
>[] So you don’t want to fly for the Navy?
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>>3463670
>[x] What makes you think you’re going back to the plant?
Merlin might snap her up, she could use an actual test pilot for her navy-funded wonderland.
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>>3463670
>[x] What makes you think you’re going back to the plant?
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>>3463670
>[x] What makes you think you’re going back to the plant?
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>>3463670
>[] What makes you think you’re going back to the plant?
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>>3463670
>[] So you don’t want to fly for the Navy?
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>>3463670
>>[x] So you don’t want to fly for the Navy?

She seemed pretty stoked about possibly being chosen to backseat a Wyvern, seems odd that she's already talking about going back to lockmart.
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Ok, votes called!
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[x] So you don’t want to fly for the Navy?

“So you don’t want to fly for the Navy?” You ask- though your timing is off, she’s already digging into her sandwich. Her eyes get wide and she makes a choking noise before shaking her head- though it still takes a minute for her to finish chewing and take a drink.

“Oh, no, no! That came out wrong.” She says, laughing. “I mean, if I go back to the plant. I mean, I knew what I was getting into when I signed up for the program, at least, I think I did.” She laughs. “Being in the navy will be a change, though, that’s for sure. I’m not used to all this saluting and sir and ma’am and stuff.” She shakes her head again. “I don’t mean I don’t want to fly as part of a wyvern crew, just that, ya know. I’m still not sure about the whole military thing to do it, ya know?”

You nod, kind of understanding- it would be a hell of a culture shock for her, it sounds like. You grew up too surrounded by it to ever really have a problem with the culture- plus, as much as you hate to say it, who your parents were meant you were afforded a bit of leeway in certain areas. Of course, they pushed you harder at Annapolis for it- and you were never cut an ounce of slack on the field or in training, up till now- but at the same time, a lot of people were probably a lot more friendly than they would have been if your name wasn’t Morgan Laroux-Bishop. A lot of people with a lot of rank.

For her, you imagine it’d be the flip side of that coin. Probably nowhere near as bad as you heard Wendy had it- especially not if she was crewing a wyvern- but still.

“I mean, I don’t plan to back out if you or that other guy want to fly with me till the end of days or whatever.” She says. “Just- ya know. I’m not going to be literally destroyed if I don’t end up in a crew, too.” She shrugs. “A little disappointed, maybe, but I’m still flying cutting edge jets weekly, so it’s not that big a difference. I just don’t, ya know. Have to worry about killing people.”

[] So you have doubts?
[] Yeah, I think I get it.
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And that's gonna be it for the night from me, guys! I know I'm calling it a bit early here, but I'm going to dip off to play warframe with a friend of mine- his aunt ain't doing so hot, and he needs some cheering up- and what's more fun that blasting some grineer to pieces? Haha. I'll be around later, probably, but we have some writeups on the way in, so there's something to make up for me taking off early! Till tomorrow guys!
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>>3463823
>[x] So you have doubts?
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>>3463823
>>[x] So you have doubts?
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>>3463823
>[] Yeah, I think I get it.
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>>3463823
>[x] So you have doubts?
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>>3463823
>[] So you have doubts?
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>>3463823
>[x] Yeah, I think I get it.

Jokes aside, it's normal to not want to actually kill your fellow man.
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>>3463823
>[X] Yeah, I think I get it.
>>3463832
Thanks for the run boss.
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>>3463823
[] So you have doubts?
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>>3463823
>[x] Yeah, I think I get it.
>>3463832
Thanks for the run Ghost
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>>3463823
>[x] Yeah, I think I get it.
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I think I've finally finished the second chapter of Watcher's Wings. I'm not sure the first chapter got much viewership, so I'll post a link to it so that people can catch up. I'm going to try to do this the old fashioned way, posting the story directly into the thread. As always, comments and criticisms are welcome.

With that said, here's Chapter 1, and let's get to it.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CNqlSi5iQtU671O9Lp9fXIFZzqDJ0ugHEeJRHu7NyMM/edit?usp=sharing

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Diana strapped herself into her seat, making sure her seatbelts were tight as they prepared for their landing approach. They’d been told to loiter for a short time while they waited for an AC-130 to land. According to the information Thompson had gotten, the 130 was just stopping off before continuing to some airbase on the West Coast, although which one they were going to he hadn’t been told. His voice came on over the ship comms.

“Alright ladies and gentlemen, the spectre has landed, and we’re cleared. Put your tray tables up, and make sure your seatbelts are buckled. The stewardesses will be doing a final check to make sure all safety precautions are taken care of before we make our approach.” The entire crew simultaneously turned their heads to look at Captain Harel, strapped tightly into her own chair. She only gave a nod.
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>>3463881
Most of the crew took it to mean that Thompson would get a stern talking to after they landed, and Diana was certain he would. Despite their grins at Thompson’s fate, they also knew that Harel was nodding to confirm her safety check. She could see every crew member, and as the de facto stewardess of the crew, she took it upon herself to make certain of their well-being.

The now familiar feeling of her stomach rising against the almost negligent G-forces which accompanied their casual descent to the Airfield. It subsided as her body got used to the downward movement. When they touched down on the airstrip Diana felt the dull bump, followed by immediate pulling as the aircraft put on breaks and reversed thrust. The reversed exhaust roared outside the fuselage next to her ears, shutting out any other sounds as her body pressed against the straps.

As the aircraft finally slowed to a casual roll, Thompson easily guided it off the runway and to the north apron. They parked in the open, abreast of the other four Sentrys currently stationed at the reserve airbase. Diana unstrapped herself and stood up, stretching her arms and legs as she always did after each flight. She didn’t much like sitting down that long, and was eager to be out of the aircraft.

Unfortunately, per protocol, she and Captain Harel had to stay in the plane even after everyone else was out. Well, she didn’t, but Harel wouldn’t let her leave until the rest of the crew had, save for Thompson and Marckel in the cockpit, who had to run through the pilot’s post-flight checklist. Still, despite her eagerness to leave, she walked to the hatch with Harel, standing at ease next to her and giving each crewman a “Good job!” or “Well done!”, just so she had something to do while Harel gave them each a pat on the back and a quick snap about their performance that mission. Once they were all through the exit, and laughing and joking at the bottom of the stairway, Harel turned to Diana. “You’re free to go. Meet up in the main briefing room at fifteen hundred for the debrief.”

Diana saluted, “Yes ma’am.” Then walked out the door and down the stairs to the tarmac, ready to take her free time. She didn’t look back, knowing Thompson was probably in for it. As amusing to watch as that would have been, her watch told her it was only thirteen hundred, giving her about two hours. That was enough time to grab lunch. It was just as good, because magic operations always made her hungry. It was a little far, but still technically walking distance. With a wave to the guards, she left the base from the north exit on Arnold st. crossing the bridge over highway forty. She turned left, and with only a few blocks of walking she made it to Cheddars.
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>>3463898
She walked inside to the familiar stone walls and friendly booths of the restaurant. She was sat at one of the booths by the window and a waitress gave her a glass of water. She loved the menu here. She didn’t have to look long, as she already knew what her favorite item was. She was about to signal the waitress that she was ready to order, when she heard a rather loud voice from the doorway.

“Yeah! She’s a friend!” Diana looked in the direction of the cheery voice, and saw two bareleged girls in uniform, obviously witches. One was tall and lanky, with black hair and bright amber eyes. She looked a little hesitant compared to her friend, who was obviously the speaker. Said witch was short, had ear-length reddish blonde hair, bright blue eyes, and an impossibly friendly smile. She was also waving at Diana.

Diana checked around just to make sure, but there was nobody in the booths near her, and furthermore, a waitress began guiding the two witches to her table. They sat down across from her at the booth. The waitress ran off to grab them both glasses of water. Before Diana could ask if they knew each other, the loud one answered her.

“We’re friends. You don’t know us yet, but you look like a friend.” Diana couldn’t really think of a response.

“I, uh, I don’t underst-”

She was cut off again. “It’s fine. You’re wearing a uniform, we’re wearing uniforms we gotta be friends one way or another, so why wait?”

Diana couldn’t get a word in through this girl’s vocal attack. As the waitress came back with the waters, she continued. “Ah, of course! We can’t be friends if we don’t know each other’s names. You’ll have to forgive me for that, I always forget to do it first.” She reached her hand across the table, and Diana shook it with apprehension. The handshake was firm, vigorous, and for some reason Diana felt it relevant to note that there was absolutely no feeling of malice in it whatsoever.

“I’m Tabby! Pleasure to meet you…” She said, pausing so the befuddled brunette could say her own name.

“Diana.” She reciprocated simply, then looked to Tabby’s so-far silent companion. The girl gave her a polite, but not quite warm smile. She extended her hand, and gave a rather light, formal handshake.

“My name is Piper. I’m sorry about my companion here. Apparently she grew up in a soundproof house.”

“Actually, I didn’t.” Tabby said with a chuckle, seemingly feeling the need to correct her partner. “You wouldn’t believe how many complaints we got from the nei-” She stopped at a glare from Piper. “I’m doing it again, aren’t I?” She asked Piper, clearly aware of herself to some degree.
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>>3463823
>[] Yeah, I think I get it.
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>>3463909
Nodding, Piper finally responded, “Yes, you are. Diana, I’m terribly sorry we interrupted you. We won’t bother you anymore. Thanks for bearing with Banshee. Not many people can manage.”

Tabby looked almost hurt for a second at Piper’s comment, but seemed to brush it off just as quickly, returning to her constant grin. “Yeah, sorry about that. Family didn’t have a talking spoon or whatever people use. It was really just whoever was loudest got heard.” She explained. Diana noticed her voice increase in volume ever so slightly with each word in the sentence.

Right as the two got up to leave the waitress returned. “Ah, are you two leaving? Did you tell your friend what you want to order?” The confused waitress asked. Diana knew it was probably more trouble than it was worth, but out curiosity she interjected. “Actually, they’re not leaving yet. So, uh, what did you two say you were having?”

Piper immediately shot Diana a look of intense apology, knowing that she couldn’t prevent what was about to happen. Tabby’s eyes lit up, and she immediately sat back down, looking through the menu. With a sigh, Piper joined her, and Tabby practically shouted, “I’m still looking! You go first, Diana.” Diana knew already what she wanted. She ordered the country fried steak and gravy, and gave a grin and a nod to the pair across the table. Taking the hint, Tabby immediately ordered the same thing without letting the waitress finish writing down Diana’s order. Piper waited for the poor girl to get their two orders down before she simply asked for a salad.

The three made surprisingly polite conversation. It was clear it took a lot of conscious effort on Tabby’s part. Even knowing how hard it was for her, she actually did a very good job of keeping her voice -for the most part- civil. Whenever it got a little or a lot too loud, she’d get a glare or a subtle warning from piper to keep her in check. The one thing Diana was sure of was that Tabby never had a single problem keeping her volume up for the drill sergeants in boot.

“I haven’t seen you around base before.” Diana stated. “Are you a new Sentry Crew?”

Piper shook her head. She was about to respond, but Tabby got there first. “Nope! We crew the AC-130J. Piper here is-”

“Classified.” Piper cut her off. “For OPSEC, you probably shouldn’t know exactly what we do.”

“Ah, right. Yeah. Sorry Puffin.” Tabby said, clearly mentally scolding herself. It only lasted for a few seconds though, as that’s when the food arrived, and Tabby took a great big whiff of the aroma of country fried steak.
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>>3463925
Diana thought she was a pretty fast eater, but Tabby had cleaned her plate before the AWACS witch was halfway done. The conversation had died away when they started eating, and the three of them sat in relative silence. Diana had grown up on the east coast in a family that loved seafood, so she was well versed in the best of it. There wasn’t a question in her mind however, that even the best seafood couldn’t hold a candle to country comfort.

She didn’t know if it was something about the spices they used, the overwhelming smell of mouth-watering fried meat, or the wonderfully savory gravy, but she really loved the kind of food in the middle of the country more than what she had at home. Too soon it was all gone. If she didn’t have company, she’d probably have licked the plate clean.
Still, her plate was empty. She looked up hoping to continue the conversation, and noticed that Tabby had disappeared. She turned to Piper, who was just finishing up her salad. “Where’s, uh…”

“Banshee?” Piper input when Diana blanked on a name. Diana gave her a thankful smile, but before she could continue asking the question she just about jumped into the restaurant’s ceiling.

Tabby had materialized out of nowhere, right where she’d been sitting previously. There was no sound, no warning, and no explanation.

Diana tried to figure out where she’d come from when the grinning girl happily explained.

“Don’t worry, I’ve been here the whole time! That just happens when I calm down.” Piper nodded to reaffirm her companion’s statement.

“We’re all used to it.” She supplied, referring to the AC-130’s crew. “It’s one of the reasons we let her keep talking.” Diana thought about it and came to the conclusion that it made… actually a lot of sense. If that happened when she calmed down, at least if she kept up the tirade of conversation, they’d always know where she was.

Noting that they’d all finished, the waitress showed up once more and collected their plates. She put down the check for them before she left with their dirty dishes. As Diana started fishing for her wallet, Tabby slapped a decent wad of cash onto the receipt. Upon counting, it covered the whole meal, as well as a sizable tip. Before Diana could protest, Tabby interjected with her exceptional volume. “Thanks a lot for bearing with me! Don’t let me bother you again!” She and Piper then stood up, and as they started to walk away, Piper gave Diana the first genuinely friendly smile she’d seen from the raven haired witch.

“She’s really excited to meet you again. Give her a call if you’re ever on the west coast and you’ve not been completely repulsed.” Piper then slipped a napkin in front of Diana with a phone number on it, presumably Tabby’s. Diana nodded with an honest smile. If she ever got the chance, this was the kind of excitement she could do with every once in a while.
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>>3463936
Diana watched the two witches leave, Tabby practically skipping out the door. Diana briefly wondered whether that was something she did all the time, or if she was particularly happy.
She waited until the waitress had picked up the check, and told the girl to keep the change as well as the tip, drawing a delighted smile from the young lady.

The walk back to Tinker AFB felt shorter than the walk to Cheddar’s, and checking her watch, Diana realized she had spent nearly an hour at the restaurant with the odd pair. With the walk there and back, she had only about twenty minutes before she had to be at briefing once she showed the base security her card.
She sped up her pace as she walked through the base’s various administrative offices to make it to the primary briefing room. By the time she got there, most of the crew was already inside, save for Harel. She noted that Thompson didn’t seem to have any lingering effects from his post-flight reprimand, already laughing and joking with Marckel.

Diana walked up to the pair. “So, puddin’, what did mother Harel tell you?”

Without missing a beat Thompson responded. “Eat my vegetables, don’t leave the tray table up, the usual spiel.”

“And don’t talk with your foot in your mouth.” Harel continued for him as she stepped into the room, followed by the ground commander overseeing the OP. Everyone immediately snapped to attention. With a short pause, everyone finally took their seats, Diana making her way to the front as usual. Harel had requested early in their time together that she stay up front, but more than that she really liked to see how the battle had played out from a more outside view, as she tended to get very focused on smaller details.
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>>3463943
Harel began the debrief. “This hop was a victory, but not without its problems, the same as usual. We only train once a month, but we have to keep our skills at the top. If they need us, we have to be able to help at a moment’s warning, and I don’t want this crew going into battle with months’ worth of mistakes ready to be made again.”

She made a particular glance at Diana. “Lieutenant Rafke, your performance was good enough keeping contact with the key points of the operation and guiding in the strike package. You nearly lost Amur flight two clean kills, and in a real fight, that could get a lot of people killed on the wrong side.” Diana wanted to protest, but she knew her superior was right. She’d called shots early again. Even if she could see it, it confused the hell out of the pilots, and she’d very nearly lost both fighters of Amur’s second element.

“However,” Captain Harel continued, putting on emphasis to draw her attention back. “We got a message from Buckley Air Force Base in Colorado. A pilot called ‘Jumper’, in this hop Amur’s flight lead, sends his thanks. He says without you Amur would be down at least one aircraft in that simulation, if not more.”

Diana’s tense nerves were put a little more at ease, and she felt a mote of pride rise in her heart. At the very least she had be able to use her capabilities to help someone, even if it was just a training mission.

“Thank you, Ma’am!” Diana responded. The ground commander then began his own debrief, explaining that the forces on the ground had been incredibly successful in their defense, in no small part due to the well guided strike package of Harpy flight.

After the briefing was over, Captain Harel approached her. “You’ve got a good eye, and a better heart, Rafke, but you have to keep them in the right places in this job. Don’t lose focus.”

Diana nodded as the rest of the pilots began to shuffle out of the room. Thompson muttered something about having to see an angry engineer, but she wasn’t really paying attention. “Yes Ma’am!” She eagerly replied.

“Good.” The Captain stated with a lighter tone, letting her face lose its sternness. “Now all of you had better wash up before going home. And don’t forget to wash behind your ears!”

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And that's it for this chapter. As I said at the beginning, comments and criticism are welcome! Thanks a bunch guys! (And Double thanks to ghost for letting me post in his thread)
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Found more art for Lotus and Kyou. Still haven't located a good Danielle pic but I haven't given up yet.

>>3462217
>Really, I just looked at it as rather than a two option vote, a three option vote, which is very common, and not rigged. Danielle’s reflight won the three option vote.
>>3462285
>Read the instructions, and make sure you know exactly what the question is.
>>3462355
>It was perfectly fair... Ghost made it perfectly clear that it was a three option vote.
>>3462439
>Stop bitching because you can't read.

You guys are missing the point. The vote was rigged BECAUSE it had three options, not because players are stupid and incapable of reading. The vote in favour of a new flight partner was very close and had to be broken out of a tie, so we already knew that slightly more than 50% of the readers are in favour of an alternate flight. The vote we just did accurately reflects this because 52% of the players voted for a new flight with either Young or Wendy. And yet Danielle still won despite not having the majority, you understand the problem here right?

Whether or not he intended to Ghost rigged the vote because it was structured like this. The 49% of people who already voted for Danielle twice in a row aren't going to change their minds. If you then force the other 51% in favour of a new flight to pick one of two choices they instantly lose the majority that started this vote in the first place, it's a complete waste of time for everyone. The proper way to handle this would have been to vote between Danielle and "a" alternate when it became apparent that the two story paths would be mutually exclusive. That would pit the 51% vs the 49% in a fair vote that could still go either way. Only afterwards if alternate wins the vote then everyone gets to decide between Young and Wendy.

In Ghost's own words "this is a pretty major decision" and I just think he could have handled it better.
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>>3463956
>slightly more than 50% of the readers are in favour of an alternate flight

That's just not true as it needed three votes to even get here.
This is literally like Remainers want Brexit to be. Just revote until you get the result you want.
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>>3463956
Would you shut the cunting fuck up already.

We voted for a reflight with Danielle way back, you tried to force it again, and lost, deal with it or fuck off already and stop shitting the threads up.
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>>3463823
>[] So you have doubts?
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>>3463823
>[] Yeah, I think I get it.
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Not sure if it’s really worth complaining for days over who appears on screen before the Kyou vote.
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I actually want to see the fucking story progress instead of staying in waifu selection tutorial
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>>3463823
>[X] So you have doubts?

>>3463968
>This is literally like Remainers want Brexit to be. Just revote until you get the result you want.
>forgets that Leavers said they would push for additional referendums if the first one failed
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>>3463823
>[X] So you have doubts?
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>>3464324
Did they? I didn't know. Good to know that both sides are literally the same.
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>>3463823
>[] So you have doubts?

>>3463968
The previous vote was the first time we had the option to vote for an alternate witch: 9 vs 8.or 52.9% in favour. This is demonstrated again by the vote we just did that resulted in almost exactly the same ratio: 10 vs 9 or 52.6% in favour. Sure looks like "slightly more than 50% of the readers" to me.

>Just revote until you get the result you want.
I didn't ask for a revote. I'm only pointing all this out because I know Ghost is human and makes mistakes sometimes. Splitting a vote that you already know is neck and neck by making one side pick between two subchoices definitely counts as a mistake. The only possible way Danielle could have lost that vote is if every single alternate voter formed a psychic hive mind and voted for Young unanimously, so why have the vote in the first place if it's so set up to fail? Anyway I don't care about the result we got, I just thought I'd mention it so that he doesn't do something like that again with a more important choice than prologue waifus.

Also have some more Lotus art. There's no shortage of nice Atagos but a rather large portion of it can't be used because it's too lewd.
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Even though I missed the vote, let's be real - Young or Wendy didn't have much chance of a re-flight.

After all, if Anons really wanted to see them in the first place they would have been amongst the three favorite options. Alas, the dream of a Bishop-Young combo will stay so forever.

That said, I believe that Ghost should leave the final crew selection vote open for longer than usual. That way even those who don't live in Burgerland can effectively cast their vote.
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>>3463823
>[x] So you have doubts?
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>>3463823
>[x] Yeah, I think I get it.
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>>3463823
>[] Yeah, I think I get it.

Fuck all y'all, this goose is precious and amazing and we're going to turn her into a savage and it's going to be AMAZING.
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>>3464441
Actually, we were told this was just a shortlist and we'd have options later to add.
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>>3464408
>>3464441

Hit the nail square on the head. Ghost can still fix this mistake that he made but it has to happen in story, I hate it when stuff like this gets rigged. Maybe someone should point this out to Ghost.
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>>3464585
Yeah but the shortlist options were the more popular anyway. A chance for Young or Wendy to shine was close to zero past that vote.

>>3464592
Nah, it's not rigged nor this is a mistake.

Plus this should speed things up a little. As much as I like character interaction this all-in-but-name Prologue is frankly tiring. The final choice should have taken place threads ago.
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>>3464592
We had this vote THREE TIMES. Enough is enough.
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>>3464616

Except the most recent vote was doomed to fail from the start due to the way it was setup and counted.

As >>3464408 put it, the vote result for an alternate witch was 10 vs. 9 or 52.6% which while a slim majority is still a majority. Due to the way this was handled, I feel like those who voted and WON the vote are being cheated.
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>>3464592
He reads the comments. So he’s seen this repeated by a handful of people enough times to get the point. Doesn’t mean he will, or should, go back. If he effectively retcons a vote like that then it’s going to make people more bold about pushing for further revotes. This quest typically has a fairly comfy environment and it’d be a shame to see that disturbed by people who can’t let a vote go. I’d say more, but I’d be repeating myself and it’s annoying to read someone make the exact same points 3 or 4 times in one thread without adding anything new to the discussion (hint).

On to a more important topic: we had a reference to Merlin’s curves in this thread. She has curves now? That seems borderline unfair to other contenders. Does she ever get tired of winning? We need more details on this.
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>>3464631
Fuck off, Hillary. You lost THREE times. Take the L.
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>>3464631
Dude, seriously. Shut up and let it go. It's done and over with and at this point the majority of us just want to move the fuck on with the plot.

You being whiny and throwing a tantrum about it is not gonna make Ghost walk it back.
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>>3464592
>>3464631
Dude chill out. I only posted those statistics as an example of how the vote was flawed and how to improve it for next time. Please don't use them as grounds for a crusade, everyone is ready to move on already.

Ghost has hinted in the past that the SIO characters we don't pick may still appear again later, such as Danielle being hired by Merlin. If you really want to see Young or Wendy so badly there is every possibility that they could still join the quest at some point in the future. Young already had one cameo when we decisively dunked on her witch squadron, which makes me look forward to her expression if/when we finally meet face to face.
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>>3464738

Then apparently I suck at figuring out foreshadowing. In other news, think we'll ever have logistics screw us royally?
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>>3464744
>think the logistics for the navy's superfighter may take a crap?
Nah, the navy would move heaven and earth to keep these birds flying. Even if it means press-ganging some attack subs into service as fast and stealthy transports. Add into that that we are the son of quite possibly the highest scoring ace in history (can't remember how many kills he got in the end) who may very well be flying with a Japanese princess. Plus Merlin has stated that she wants to return to the fleet, possibly working on our jet in particular. So she might just be able to magic up some of the more delicate and rare parts of the plane.

tl;dr We're good. Even if there are supply issues with getting more of the newer model missiles to replace what we expend in combat, we will still get priority for whatever is at hand. We won't have to worry about having to haul sparrows into combat just because we ran out of AMRAAMs. Or some other BS.
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>>3464823

I actually think the title of highest scoring Ace in history likely belongs to Erica Hartman if she got anything like her OTL counterpart, Erich Hartman, which was 352 confirmed kills and a number of probables, that's unprecedented. Though Frank might just be the highest scoring Jet ace in history.

Honestly, the idea of Merlin returning to the Fleet is interesting (the fact that she's a Rear Admiral is surprising), Merlin is actually one of my favorite characters in the Strikers-universe (outside of Goose)

The later model Sparrows weren't bad, they weren't AMRAAMs but not bad either. Honestly, biggest concern is actually the gun ammunition, we have four guns each with probably about 250 to 300 rounds of ammunition. We will be going through that like crazy if we get into multiple WWI-style Furballs.
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>>3464823
>highest scoring ace in history
Frank only had 40-50 kills and he wasn't even the highest scoring ace of the War, just the most prominent.
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>>3464905
>we have four guns each with probably about 250 to 300 rounds of ammunition
You forget Merlin added hammerspace for magically powered vehicles, we have quite a bit more storage space than what would normally be possible.
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>>3464923
Ghost mentioned that there's only a few of them around so it doesn't sound like a standard thing.
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>>3464946

Only forty Wyverns, yeah its probably not standard. Though I wonder if the J-20 if it shows up will be at first mistaken for a MiG-1.44
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>>3465160
I was referring to the bays in regards to them being on magically powered vehicles. IIRC, Ghost said in the first thread of the reboot that they could be installed on the Wyverns if needed, so it sounds like they aren't standard on Wyverns. As for the J-20 I doubt it since they'd have been well known for years at this point in universe, longer if they developed them sooner.
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>>3465248

You know, given the similarity between the J-20 and MiG-1.44 (needs a better designation for Strikers, MiG-33 or MiG-35 maybe?), it could be possible that in Strikers that the J-20 is a Chinese knock-off of the MiG-1.44.

As for the bays, does that relate to to the ammunition drums as well. Also think you can fit a AIM-97 Seekbat in one of them bays?
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>>3465260
I mean we could haul some seekbats, but why would we when the AIM-152 has better range, performance, and is actually in service?
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>>3465260
>does that relate to to the ammunition drums as well
Unless something changed I'm pretty confident that's a no since the hammerspace bays only replace the weapons bays.
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>>3465333

I am not sure on the range department since it was originally built shoot down MiG-25s. It could be that the AIM-97 could be introduced as a counter KS-172. A dedicated extreme-range AWACS/Flying Barn killer.

That said, an AIM-152 with Terminal Infrared Homing would be nasty,
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>>3463823
[] Yeah, I think I get it.
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ok, votes called!
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ANd the vote is a tie! haha. ten minute tiebreaker!
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>3465886
>[x] So you have doubts?

I already voted though. Dice as alternative.
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>>3465412
Both YAIM-152 versions were slated to have a range of 185 km with an increase in range being expected in production models. I can't remember if the Hughes/Raytheon rocket-ramjet version or the GD/Westinghouse two-stage version was selected for production in SW89 though. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.

The Seekbat only had a range of 90km, making it comparable to the later models of the sparrow and roughly in the same ballpark as the AMRAAM-C. Which is not good given it's size and weight.
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>>3465906
I'll accept it. Writing!
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>>3465942

True, though its operational ceiling was 80,000-feet, given the maximum service ceiling of the Eagle and Phantom, it might have about the same range if it uses the profile I think it does.
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>>3465981
In that same vein there is no real reason to adopt it, as anything that the seekbat could do could be done better by either the phoenix or it's replacement. Keep in mind that the Iranians specifically bought tomcats for the phoenix with the express purpose of killing foxbats. And according to research by journalist Tom Cooper, at least ten MiG-25s were successfully shot down with the phoenix.

I'm pretty sure that the YAIM-152 contenders (and later production models) would probably use a similar flight profile for either longer-range shots or shots against high-flying targets.
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[x] So you have doubts?

“So you have doubts?” You ask.

She screws up her face for a second, then shrugs. “Yeah, I guess I do. I mean, I know maybe it’s strange to you” She laughs a bit at that. “But I wasn’t raised in a really military enviroment, you know? None of the adults in my life had done any government service, and my mom... “ She trails off for a second. “Well, mom made it abundantly clear she didn’t like anything the government, especially the military, said. Ever. About anything.” She sighs, putting her sandwich down. “Maybe I should have accepted a military academy position, I was offered them, even after how she was back in the sixties, but I didn’t cos she raised such utter hell about it. I didn’t finally put my foot down till she started in on me about my job at lockmart.”

You nod.

“I mean, she’s been raising hell with me about signing up for the program. If she knew I’d flown with you, and I was actually being considered as part of a crew she’d lose her mind, probably be down here in however long it took her to drive down with some of her Hollywood buddies to start protesting and try to break in to spray paint slogans on the jet or whatever stupid thing they think will ‘send a message’” She says. “She doesn’t get that the navy doesn’t care, and when she threw all her toys out in a fit when we were in asia, she lost all credibility and voice.”

“But she’ll still try to make trouble for you?” You ask.

She nods. “She’s like that.” She says, kind of sadly. “But one thing she taught me I can’t shake is being honest about feelings with people. I’m not sure how I’m going to do in the navy, and I’m really not sure how I’d sleep at night knowing I’d killed people. But I’m not going to turn down the job if I’m offered it, ya know?”

You nod, being able to respect that. You were taught differently, of course- you squelch things you know you can handle, and things you can’t handle haven’t come up yet. You suppose the closest thing to it you can think of is the bitter disappointment of losing the state championship your senior year- you felt that not only had you lost, but you’d failed the entire team. You’d gotten lucky in that the coach had made sure he was clear in how proud of all you of you he was- the old man had teared up in the locker room after the game.

“Anyway, that’s enough of that depressing stuff.” She says, her smile- and her sandwich- returning to her lips. “you like to cook, you said? What kind of stuff? Am I going to get fat flying with you?” She laughs. “Now that might be a dealbreaker!”

[] Little bit of this, little bit of that. Southern food, for the most part.
[] Mostly things my mom taught me, other things I’ve picked up on my own.
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>>3466059
>[] Mostly things my mom taught me, other things I’ve picked up on my own.

CHEF MORGAN
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>>3466059
>[X] Mostly things my mom taught me, other things I’ve picked up on my own.
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>>3466059
>[x] Mostly things my mom taught me, other things I’ve picked up on my own.

>it's a little embarrassing to admit the rest you picked up for your aunt Merlin
Nothing embarrassing about it!
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>>3466059
>[] Mostly things my mom taught me, other things I’ve picked up on my own.
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>>3466059
>[X] Mostly things my mom taught me, other things I’ve picked up on my own.
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>>3466059
>[] Mostly things my mom taught me, other things I’ve picked up on my own.

Ironically, I can't handle spicy.
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>>3466059
>[] Mostly things my mom taught me, other things I’ve picked up on my own.
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>>3466059
>[x] Mostly things my mom taught me, other things I’ve picked up on my own.
>try to break in to spray paint slogans on the jet
Given how the chair force apparently handled some hippies hitting a nuclear missile silo hatch with a sledgehammer, I am honestly interested in what the navy might pull when some rich entitled woman and her cronies ruin the RCS coating on a fighter jet that costs around the same as a warship.
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Ok, votes called!
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[x] Mostly things my mom taught me, other things I’ve picked up on my own.

“Mostly things my mom taught me.” You say, thinking about it some- you’re pretty sure you don’t give away any tells about why you learned to cook as you talk. “Other things I’ve picked up on my own.”

She nods. “I always wanted to learn to cook more things, but they keep me too busy.” She says, laughing. “I can order a mean pizza though!” She laughs again at her joke. “I’m probably pretty boring compared to you, thinking about it. Mom used to take me around her talk and protest circuit, but that’s pretty boring for a kid. You just stay in the hotel or with whoever’s putting you up while your mom goes to do her thing, then you go home.” She shakes her head. “I bet I can beat you silly in mario kart though!” She says with a smile.

You laugh at that- you did play an awful lot of Nintendo with your sisters.

“Speaking of, though, what do I do tomorrow? I’m not flying with you, right?” She says. “That marine colonel, all he told me was that I’d be too busy to observe anything, but what will they have me doing? do you know?”

“Probably processing.” You say. “Figuring out pay, shots, that sort of thing.”

“Really?” She asks. “Seems kind of silly if I might just be here till day after tomorrow.”

You shrug. “The military moves in strange ways.”

She laughs. “Yeah, no kidding!”

It’s mostly small talk for the rest of the night- you get the distinct impression she’s able to put things that are bothering her aside, but can’t really let them go entirely, like she’s going to go back and examine them in private and work at coming to terms with them on her own. She’s honest and open about herself- her ink, for example, which both means a lot to her and almost nothing in specific. She’s a big follower of the burning man event, and makes it a point to go every year, and tries to hit every concert she can along the coast.

Finishing dinner, she looks around for the waitress, looking over at you as you stand up. “Does she not bring the check?” She asks. “I mean, we have to pay, right?”

[] Not really. They may ask me for a favor or something to put on the wall later, but it’s on the house for us.
[] No, they’ll send the bill to the CO’s office. This is part of the process here.
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She’s growing on me—but I think the best thing we can do is introduce her to Merlin and see if a job comes her way from that. I just don’t feel comfortable putting her in combat.
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>>3466337
>[] Not really. They may ask me for a favor or something to put on the wall later, but it’s on the house for us.
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>>3466337
>[x] No, they’ll send the bill to the CO’s office. This is part of the process here.
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>>3466337
>[x] No, they’ll send the bill to the CO’s office. This is part of the process here.
We should save the free meal for when we actually make our selection.

Speaking of, can someone do us a favour and put together a pros/cons list of each of our options thus-far (Danielle, Kyou and Lotus)? Just so we have something to argue over once the run is done for tonight.
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>>3466337
>[] No, they’ll send the bill to the CO’s office. This is part of the process here.
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>>3466337
>[x] No, they’ll send the bill to the CO’s office. This is part of the process here.
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>>3466337
>[X] No, they’ll send the bill to the CO’s office. This is part of the process here.
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>>3466337
>[] No, they’ll send the bill to the CO’s office. This is part of the process here.

I think she's tougher than she looks. They wouldn't let her anywhere near the Wyvern if she didn't have what it takes. This was fun.

I like Lotus. Do you like Lotus?
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>>3466351
Yeah. I love her as a character, but I don't think that combat is for her. We could be wrong, of course. You never know.
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>>3466337
>[X] No, they’ll send the bill to the CO’s office. This is part of the process here.
Yay tax dollars at work! Let's do favor-debt at a later date
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>>3466397
Not really honestly. I think she's a really well done character...but I don't think she belongs in the backseat of a Wyvern.
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>>3466368

This is my cliff notes version; I’ll leave it to others for the details.

D: Pros-career navy, combat experience against modern SAMs, anti-radar goddess, let’s us party like it’s the 60s before Russian/Chinese SAMs (and I remind everyone they stuff their ships full of them too) ruined the party, genuinely nice person.

Cons-outside of the SEAD role she’s almost purely defensive, relatively low power, not committed to Wyverns over her current role.

Bottom line: if we want to run hit-and-fade stealth missions into enemy territory—she’s our witch. If we want to repeat Frank’s exploits, she’s no Sam Wells (at least, not that we’ve seen). But we get to take another shot with her so something interesting might come up.

My opinion: if she shows abilities outside of SEAD during our next mission I’d take her as my first choice as she’s got the best strength/weakness ratio. But without that she’s just too one dimensional. I would like to pick her up as a witch wingmate—she’d be fantastic as our personal Wild Weasel.


K: pros-crazy strong, massive political connections make her immune from state-side politics and likely guarantee we have our pick of assignments, committed to the Wyvern program, did I mention crazy strong?

Cons-batshit crazy, drops us into the political spotlight, is going to be really awkward if US strategic objectives differ from Japanese ones during a war, dating will be fun with a security detail, and did I mention she’s nuts?

Bottom line: if we want to walk the line between invincibility and insanity she’s our girl. Whether we can control her or not is an open question.

My opinion: the best option if Danielle doesn’t show a worthwhile new skill during the re-flight. High risk, but potentially high reward. I’d take her as a wing witch if we don’t choose her and can make that work. She’d pair well with a Wyvern on her wing.

L: Pros—could navigate an asteroid field blindfolded AND tell you the odds, would probably make our backseat into an airborne command post if she can coordinate more than just herself (like Minna maybe?) an honest and kind witch.

Cons—zero military experience and considerable political baggage, abilities are even more passive than Danielle’s, might not be able to handle a war zone (and we’d be out if she can’t).

Bottom line: considerable risks for little apparent reward, but seems to be a competent all-around witch with some deep strike capabilities due to her navigation skills-as we just proved (but Danielle wins that fight because she can get us there in one piece, while we know that Lotus can’t do crap to radars).

My opinion—my last choice. I’d pick her up as an air controller for AWACS duty if we can (that fits her skill set and doesn’t require direct combat duty) but I wouldn’t put her in our backseat unless I’ve missed something.
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Ok, votes closed!
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>>3466446
You forgot one con of Danielle, maybe the biggest one of all: she doesn't have enough pictures. If we choose her we're gonna need some anons to shore up pics of fit girls with glasses immediately.
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>>3466446
I think this is actually a very fair and all around good assessment. While in my personal opinion, Kyou's pros don't outweigh her Cons, You've done a very good job of listing their goods and bads. I'm still a danielle guy. We'll see if the last flight changes that.
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>>3466507
I’m really a Danielle guy too—but I also don’t mind running deep strike missions against radar sites and AWACS. But anon seemed to pretty clearly want to mix it up like Frank and I’m not sure she’s going to be up for that based on her current skill set. That said, the mission we ran with her is precisely the kind of hit-and-fade she’d be good at. What I want to see is what she’ll be like in a furball. That may shift the balance in her favor (or not) depending on how she performs. What I really want to see is if she can spoof radar guide AAMs. If she can, I’ll take not getting hit at all over potentially surviving hits with a wicked strong shield.
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>>3466543
I'm aiming for Danielle in particular because I want different missions from 89. Less dogfighting, more Other Stuff. Possibly even Spoopy Stuff.
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>>3466446
Kyou isn't persay, just an incredibly aggressive fighter.
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>>3466553
I’m 100% in for that if anon is on board. If we can get in and knock out airborne and ground based radars we’d make it a hell of a lot easier for our buddies to do their jobs. Moreover, given that airborne radars are usually very well protected, we’d still get to dogfight plenty.
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>>3466560
As I said—it’d be walking a line .. and I’m not sold yet and which side of that line she’s on.
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>>3466553
>>3466570
I'm all for a new mission set. And Judging by our Lotus mission, SOCOM is interested in us, and might give us exactly those sort of profiles.
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>>3466446
Good assessment anon. Leaning towards Kyou right now but I think that Lotus is a very interesting option as well, given that she can serve as a sort-of C&C hub which would be interesting gameplay.
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>>3466588

Maybe we'll work with Goose
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>>3466553
I still prefer the air superiority and dogfighting angle, but it could be cool to do that in support of socom deep insertion teams.
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>>3466612
Maybe a first in-last out role. Go in with Danielle in the back and Kyou (and maybe even Cass) on our wing, kill radars (ground or air) and the enemy CAP, cover the spec ops insertion, mission, and extraction, and then cover the withdrawal against enemy reinforcements. Could be a very fun basic mission profile—an offensive version of PJ Quest.

And let’s be honest, Ghost will thrown plenty of curveballs at us to make things interesting regardless of who we pick.
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>>3466588
Pretty sure that's more tied to Lotus's skill set compared to Danielle or Kyou though, so if we want SOCOM missions we'll probably want to go with her.
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>>3466626
And I’d bet that if we asked Kyou to be on our wing she’d have the pull to make that happen. The opposite is not neccasarily true (I.e. it’s unlikely we’d be able to keep Danielle as a wingwitch—LTs don’t dictate squadron assignments).

Food for thought at least—I’m definitely looking forward to the re-flight, I don’t think the competitor is closed at this point one way or another.
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>>3466626

Plus if the S-300 and S-400 are known Witch-Killers in-universe, imagine what the S-500 could do, for all we know it could have Electro-optical backup guidance which means life could get very interesting for us.
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>>3466630
Maybe. I’m concerned that we got painted by Canadian radar so quickly—I think that would be a major black mark with SOCOM. And I’m also not sure whether they were testing her, us, or a combination of both—so I think writing off SOCOM if we reject Lotus is premature. Especially as it sure seems like SOCOM black ops are the LAST thing she needs with her hesitation with killing people. BVR is one thing, but up close and personal? I’m just not sure we want to put her through that.
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>>3466636
Sure, and infrared backups are an issue too. But taking radar off the table is still a major benefit to weigh in our final decision.
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[x] No, they’ll send the bill to the CO’s office. This is part of the process here.

You shake your head as she follows you out of the door- the hostess bids you a good night with a smile. “No, they’ll send the bill to the CO’s office.” You say. “This is part of the process.”

“A dinner date is part of a military procedure?” Lotus asks with a laugh. “Maybe I’m completely wrong about the navy.”

“Kind of. It’s part of the crew selection process.” You say. “Get to know each other.”

“Oh, right. Yeah, that makes sense.” Lotus says. “So it’s kinda like speed dating.”

You shrug. “Pretty close to that, yeah.” You allow- she’s not wrong, though you imagine there’s a few people involved in the program that may insist she is.

She yawns as you get into the car, leaning back in her seat and closing her eyes briefly. “Man, I’m getting tired.” She says after a minute. “It’s been a long day.”

You laugh a little that, and she cracks one eye open to look over at you with a smile. “Yeah, who am I telling, right?” She laughs a little. “Still, man, I’m looking forward to that bed they promised me!”

You nod. “Yeah, it’s been a long day.” You agree, thankful that, because of the hour, traffic is light, and the trip back is short. You park the car outside the admin building, signing the clipboard and handing the keys back in.

“There’s a van out front, sir, he’ll take you over to the BOQ. Lieutenant Commander Earhart is in the same building as you, get her key from the duty desk there.” The sailor behind the desk says. “And here, hand her this.” He hands you a sheet of paper folded into a little pamphlet. “That’s for her, to explain what all she’s doing.” He explains. “She’s not the first reservist witch through here, so there’s sort of a system.”

You nod, taking the paper from him and heading back outside, where Lotus stands next to the van. She waves at you. “Hey Morgan, over here!” She says, smiling. “They had a shuttle waiting for us!”

You hand the paper off to her, and she looks at it, confused. “What’s this?” She asks, opening it up. “Oh, I see. Well, looks like no rest for the wicked!” She says, laughing.

The driver of the van proves to be quiet- he’s a civilian too, an older guy with a USMC Veteran cap on his head, who listens to the country music station a bit too loud for your liking. Still, when he pulls up to the BOQ, he turns the van off and steps out to help Lotus with her bag. She pauses, looking up at the building. “Looks pretty nice.” She says, and you shrug.

“It’s not bad.” You say, leading the way inside. “They haven’t remodeled since I was born, I think.”

She laughs as you approach the duty desk- there’s a marine lance corporal on duty, looking very bored. He looks up at the two of you. “Visitor, sir?” He asks, and you shake your head.

1/2(?)
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“She needs her room key and number.” You say, motioning Lotus to come up to the desk. She favors the marine with a brilliant smile.

“Hi!” She says, more energetically than you expected. “You have my room keys?”

“Lieutenant Commander Earhart?” The marine asks, and she nods. “I’ll need to see some ID, ma’am.”

“Is a driver’s license ok?” she asks. “I don’t have my military ID on me.”

“Yeah” The marine says, looking over at you for a second. “I’ll hang onto your driver’s liscense, you’ll get a CAC tomorrow.”

“A CAC?” she asks.

“Common access card.” You tell her. “Active duty ID.”

“Oh. ok.” She says, taking the key and watching the marine drop her driver’s license in the duty desk. “When will I get that back?”

“Once you check out.” He says. “You’re up on the top floor, room five-oh-five. Take the elevator up and turn right, down at the end of the hall.”

“Thanks!” She says, then turns back to you. “So I won’t see you tomorrow. I guess this may be it, huh?” She says, smiling. “Well, if it is, it was great meeting you, Morgan, and flying with you was fun, thanks for letting me try it out!”

She pivots on her heel, spinning around pretty quickly and heading for the elevators, while the Marine goes back to doing a crossword puzzle.

You head up to your room, hitting the lights and pulling off your cover, setting it on the small table near the window. You manage to get a real shower in- the locker room showers never feel quite as good as one at home, you think- and have just sat down when your phone buzzes with a text message. It goes off again a second later as you pick it up.

The first, from your aunt, is an invitation to come talk at her place- having flown with all three witches, you imagine she’s going to start digging for your thoughts, even with a reflight tomorrow. The other, from Cass, is a simple picture of her quarters aboard the Kaga- though you note she managed to take the picture in such a way as to catch herself in the full-body mirror of the small wardrobe. You also note, somewhat drily, she’s effectively naked. Again. At least the quarters look reasonable- small, but she’s not sharing them with anyone, and there’s enough room there for her laptop and other stuff on the desk next to the bed. You’d look over it some more- you’re sure, for example, she strategically placed some lacey underthings on her bed, and made sure to get them in the picture, but you can do that later.

[] See if Auntie M wants to meet somewhere else to talk- maybe that 24 hour pub just off the base?
[] Ask if she wants to talk later- you’re pretty tired, it’s been a long day.
[] Tell her you’ll be right over.
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>>3466682
>[x] See if Auntie M wants to meet somewhere else to talk- maybe that 24 hour pub just off the base?
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>>3466682

>[] Tell her you’ll be right over.

We’ve got to get over the fear of people thinking something untoward is going on with Merlin.
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>>3466682
>[x Tell her you’ll be right over.
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>>3466682
>[] Tell her you’ll be right over.
Kinda hard to talk freely about restricted information in a public space.
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>>3466682
>[X] Tell her you’ll be right over.

The Patron Saint of modern jet fighters is calling, best not to keep her waiting.
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>>3466682
>[X] Tell her you’ll be right over.
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>>3466682
>[x] Ask if she wants to talk later- you’re pretty tired, it’s been a long day.
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>>3466682
>[x] See if Auntie M wants to meet somewhere else to talk- maybe that 24 hour pub just off the base?
I mean, Merlin is the only one we can actually talk to right now. So we might as well.
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>>3466682
>[x] Tell her you’ll be right over.
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>>3466682
>[] Tell her you’ll be right over.

Best not to keep her waiting
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>>3466682
>[] Tell her you’ll be right over.

>Cass
WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME
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>>3466682
>[x] Tell her you’ll be right over.

>>3466639
If they were testing just us we would of pick up on it in our previous Hops, which we didn't.
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>>3466682
>[x] Tell her you’ll be right over.
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>>3466682
>[] See if Auntie M wants to meet somewhere else to talk- maybe that 24 hour pub just off the base?
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>>3466682
>[X] See if Auntie M wants to meet somewhere else to talk- maybe that 24 hour pub just off the base?
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>>3466682
>[X] See if Auntie M wants to meet somewhere else to talk- maybe that 24 hour pub just off the base?
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Ok, votes called!
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[x] Tell her you’ll be right over.

You change into something more comfortable- jeans and a T-shirt, and stick your phone in your pocket after texting your aunt you’ll be right over. It’s a nice night, and a short walk- well, fairly short, a little over half a mile- still, easy enough to do. The cool night air does you some good, even with the roar of jets behind you, and before too long you knock on the front door to the corporate house.

Merlin answers, bareleg in her old MIT shirt that’s a couple sizes too big. She waves you inside, crunching on something in her mouth. “J-jolly rancher.” She says, smiling.

“Ah.” You say. “So what did you want to talk about?”

“O-oh. Well there’s a f-few things, actually.” She says, motioning for you to go into the living room, where the TV is on. There’s a glass of wine next to her spot on the couch, and her laptop sits on the cushion. She detours through the kitchen. “D-do you want anything? Something to d-drink?”

“I’m good. Just got back from dinner.” You say.

“O-oh, ok.” She says, walking back in the room and folding her legs under her. “S-so what did y-you think of Lotus?”

[] She was really capable, but that was a strange flight.
[] I’m not sure she’s going to be able to hack it.
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>>3466957
>[x] She was really capable, but that was a strange flight.
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>>3466957
>[] She was really capable, but that was a strange flight.
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>>3466957
>[x] She was really capable, but that was a strange flight.
>Admitted she might be iffy when it comes to combat, though.
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>>3466957
>[] She was really capable, but that was a strange flight.

ENLIGHTEN ME, AUNT BEST WITCH
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>>3466957
>[x] I’m not sure she’s going to be able to hack it.
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>>3466957
>[] She was really capable, but that was a strange flight.
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>>3466957
>[X] She was really capable, but that was a strange flight.
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>>3466957
>[X] She was really capable, but that was a strange flight.
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>>3466957
>[x] I’m not sure she’s going to be able to hack it.
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>>3466957
>[] She was really capable, but that was a strange flight.
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>>3466957
>[x] I’m not sure she’s going to be able to hack it.
No point in lying to the best aunt. Lotus may be good and all, but she's up against long odds already. The iffiness to actually get stuck in when push comes to shove only makes her position more unsteady.
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>>3466957
>[] I’m not sure she’s going to be able to hack it.
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>>3466957
>[X] I’m not sure she’s going to be able to hack it.

I do like her and her sunny personality, but her concern over combat could make things dicey.
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Ok, votes called!
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>>3466446
I agree with your assessment for the most part except for Kyou. I wouldn't describe Kyou as batshit crazy, more like severely repressed. She was the top of the class at SIO school so she doesn't lack competence or power. It's just that she's been locked up in a cage all her life and is now bursting at the seams like a corset full of spaghetti. When you allow her to cut loose the discipline slips a bit because of all the built up pressure, but I think she will stabilize if we take her out of the princess role and into the navy where she can let off steam. She has the aggression that complements our cold and calculated fighting style, I think we would balance each other out once we get to know each other better. There are also hints that she can break physics like Natalia, which would be a complete game changer.

As for the other cons you mentioned, Kyou would be a US navy asset once signed up. The Japanese agreed to this with the understanding that the US would provide support to defend Japan, but ultimately they can't tell the navy what to do. The navy could just as easily send a different Wyvern to Japan and send us to Germany. (they probably won't but you get the idea) With China starting shit our career will almost certainly mean bouncing around Pacific carriers/bases unless Russia gets uppity too in which case we may need to deploy to europe too.

If the other princess that appeared in the quest is any indication, Kyou would not have a security detail within the navy. At most she would have a bodyguard witch like Ozawa. The only time we need to worry about state and royal security is if we go to any official functions in Japan itself. Now admittedly that is almost a certainty anytime we land the wyvern on or near japan, and the reporters will get annoying but it's nothing we haven't learned to deal with already from being a Bishop.

So far I'm leaning heavily towards Kyou, both as a personal favourite and seemingly optimal choice. She has the power to run a wyvern in spades and the navy never deploys a wyvern unless they expect it to kill everything in sight. Regardless of how we want to game the training scenarios to hide our power level like Maman wanted, eventually we will be fighting for real and if we don't deliver the goods the navy expects when they deploy a wyvern people could get killed.

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As for the other two. Danielle has some neat skills but I think her specialty is almost wasted on a wyvern. Outside of a test scenario the likelyhood that a wyvern will be used for SEAD work is virtually nil. There is some novelty in a wyvern that can handle it's own SEAD, but Danielle having to do SEAD work on the side would just drain energy away from our primary job.

That being said I think she would make a fantastic wingwitch, trolling enemy radars and SAMs while we mop the floor with everyone else. There are also some hints that Merlin wants to draft her for some project or other, and Merlin will be following us when we deploy.
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>>3467060
>bursting at the seams like a corset full of spaghetti
what
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>>3466957
[] I’m not sure she’s going to be able to hack it.
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>>3466957
>[X] She was really capable, but that was a strange flight.
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>>3467087
Have you not been paying attention to the subtle hints that Ghost has been dropping that is a Mecha/Wyvern-sexual nerd and the only reason she hasn't exploded in a nuclear explosion of Spaghetti is MILITARY BEARING+HIME-SAMA UPBRINGING. He has been dropping hints on that all over the place.
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[x] She was really capable, but that was a strange flight.

“She’s capable, but that was a strange flight.” You say as she pulls her laptop back to her lap and types a few things in.

She nods. “Mhmm. I can’t t-tell you anything b-but I’m sure you’ve g-guessed.”

“SOCOM?”

She doesn’t answer. “I-I’ve done some digging, t-too. A-and if you don’t take D-danielle, I’m going to.”

“Oh?”

“S-she’s almost perfect. I-I’d be lying if I said I d-didn’t want all three of them, b-but that’s not going to happen. T-there’s a marine corps Wyvern working u-up too.” She grins. “I-I won’t be as involved with that one a-as yours. I-I don’t have the e-energy to mange t-two jets and t-two pilots.”

“That sounded lewd, auntie.”

“D-did it?” She stutters, blushing. “I-I didn’t m-mean it t-to be! J-just t-that you’re more t-than enough t-to keep me b-busy!”

If anything, she flushes a deeper crimson at your grin. “Oui, auntie. I undastand what ya mean.” You say- and you do, but she’s kind of easy to tease, and one of the few people you bother with. Probably the only person.

“M-maybe I s-should just g-go to b-bed.” She says. “I-I clearly c-can’t t-talk straight.”

You laugh. “Do you need a drink? Coffee?”

She shakes her head, taking a sip of her wine. “N-no.” she says, taking a second to breathe and calm down. “T-that was mean.” She says, accusatorily.

You grin. “Easy target.”

1/2
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She just shakes her head again. “T-tomorrow is your l-last flight before selection. D-do you know how that works?”

You shake your head. “No.” You say. “This whole thing is really secretive for anyone going through it, it sounds like.”

She nods. “I-it is. On p-purpose. I-it’s silly and they d-don’t listen to Frank or I, t-the only real combat veterans o-of anything c-close to an MIU Wyvern when we t-tell them it is. W-what’s going to happen i-is they’re going to sit y-you down in a room w-with Admiral M-marshal. Y-you’ll make your final c-choice then. She’ll h-have one last chance to back o-out, and if she stays with y-you’ll both be confined to p-post other than w-with an escort. K-kyou’s bodyguards won’t count.”

You nod. “What about the flight tomorrow?” You ask.

“E-expect it t-to be like your first f-flight, with more e-emphasis on destroying an A2/AD n-network while handling f-fighters. T-they’ll explain it better.” She says, then yawns. “I’m n-not going to poach a-anyone yet, but I w-wanted to ask you to tell m-me as soon as you’ve m-made selection.”

“So you can poach them?” You ask, and she nods.

“I-if I can get hold of t-them before the Marine pilot selects them t-then they’re mine.” She says “B-but if I don’t, I-I’ll have to wait for his c-choice.”

“Wow, really?” You ask- the concept of them not giving Merlin whatever- or whoever- she asks for is kind of strange. You’re about to say something else when your phone buzzes again. You look down just long enough to see it’s another text from Cass before sighing. Your aunt stands up again. “I-I think I’m going to get a-another glass.” She says. “D-do you want one?”

“Auntie I fly tomorrow.” You remind her.

“Y-you’re outside sixteen h-hours and I can p-purge the alcohol f-from your system i-if I have to.” She responds.

[] Thanks, but still no. I’ll have a coke if there’s any in the fridge.
[] I guess, sure.
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>>3467188
>[x] I guess, sure.
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>>3467188
>[x] Thanks, but still no. I’ll have a coke if there’s any in the fridge.
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>>3467188
>[] Thanks, but still no. I’ll have a coke if there’s any in the fridge.
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>>3467188
>[x] I guess, sure.
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>>3467188
>[x] I guess, sure.
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>>3467188
>[] Thanks, but still no. I’ll have a coke if there’s any in the fridge.
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>>3467188
>[X] Thanks, but still no. I’ll have a coke if there’s any in the fridge.
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>>3467188
>[X] Thanks, but still no. I’ll have a coke if there’s any in the fridge.
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>>3467188
>[] I guess, sure.

Wooo MAGIC ABUSE!
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>>3467188
>[x] Thanks, but still no. I’ll have a coke if there’s any in the fridge.
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>>3467188
>[X] Thanks, but still no. I’ll have a coke if there’s any in the fridge.
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>>3467188
>[] Thanks, but still no. I’ll have a coke if there’s any in the fridge.
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>>3467188
>[x] Thanks, but still no. I’ll have a coke if there’s any in the fridge.
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>>3467087
It's really cute.

>The engines spool up with a smooth whine that transitions into a scream, then a roar as the afterburners start dumping raw fuel into the exhaust, reheating it. The sudden Gs as you release the wheelbrakes slams you back into the too-thin seat cushion as you stop just short of the WEP. The takeoff roll itself is almost criminally short, given the runway in front of you- you still had miles, it seems like.
>“Woo!” Kyou calls, probably accidentally hot micing- her voice is businesslike when she speaks again, a second later. “Gear is up and locked, systems are green across the board. I have no connectivity, all weapons showing stowed and safe.”
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>>3467188
>[x] Thanks, but still no. I’ll have a coke if there’s any in the fridge.
Wine? I'll pass.
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>>3467188
>[] I guess, sure.
What could go wrong?
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>>3467188
>[] Thanks, but still no. I’ll have a coke if there’s any in the fridge.

Let's not start bad habits
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>>3467288
>I can p-purge the alcohol f-from your system i-if I have to.
I guess in the worse case explosive shitting? Hopefully she could actually just magic it into non-existence
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>>3467188
>[] Thanks, but still no. I’ll have a coke if there’s any in the fridge.
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>>3467331
I was hoping for explosive shitposting, but the super serious crowd takes it again.
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>>3467188
So we’d get Danielle either way. Just a matter of whether she’s on our wing or in the backseat. That’s an out if I’ve ever seen one. Let’s see how the flight goes, but it sounds like we’ve got our SEAD-Witch either way (and isn’t that a lewdism).
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Ok, votes called! this'll probably be the last one for the night, but there might be one more.
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>>3467354
If we're getting her either way, I'd rather have her on the wing as our SEAD bird.
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>>3467469
Ditto.
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>>3467469
I'm honestly okay with having her either way, so long as she stays around. Not enough muscle-y girls.
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[x] Thanks, but still no. I’ll have a coke if there’s any in the fridge.

You shake your head. “Thanks, but no.” You say. “But I’ll have a coke if there’s any in the fridge.”

She nods. “I-I bought a pack for you e-earlier today.” She says with a smile, walking into the kitchen for a minute, and coming back out with another full glass of wine and a can of coke for you.

“Thanks auntie.” You say, popping it open. “So when does that marine pilot start his flights?”

“H-he’s delayed while you finish your last flight with D-danielle.” She responds. “B-but as soon as y-your selection is in h-he’ll be making his list. T-that’s why I n-need you to tell me a-as soon as you’ve picked.”

You nod. “Did Cass talk to you?” You say, glancing back at your phone for a second.

“S-she did. I’ve p-put in a request to the n-navy, but I-I may have to use m-my own contacts if I want her. I-I’m more worried s-she’s going to be d-distracted by y-you though.” She shakes her head. “I-I mean, I understand w-why but it w-would- “ She pauses, blushing again. “U-uh.”

You decide to let that one go, just taking a sip of coke.

“A-anyway, I-I’m not sure about her.” She says, rallying. “I-I guess it w-will depend on your selection.”

You nod. “So you’re waiting for me, basically.”

1/2
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>>3467535
Have you seen Cass? Speaking of, what is best girl texting?
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She looks like she wants to say something, but just nods. “I-I think a s-second glass m-may have been a m-mistake.” She mumbles a second later as she finishes her glass quickly, while you sit quietly. She’s working on something on the laptop, but you can see her swaying a bit in her spot. She’s always been the lightest of lightweights- two or three glasses is more than enough to get her very drunk. Of course, like any witch, she can avoid the hangovers pretty easily, which is more than a little unfair in your opinion.

You laugh. “Do I need to make sure you get to bed ok, auntie?” You ask.

She pauses to think about it. “J-just up the s-stairs.” She says after a second. “L-let me shut d-down h-here.”

You nod, going to get her a water bottle, then heading back into the living room to watch he stand woozily. “D-definatley a mistake.” She says, looking at you and blushing a bit before going towards the stairs.

You go up them slowly with her, having to stop to support her a few times before she reaches the top- and just to be sure you lurk at the top for a few seconds until her bedroom door clicks shut before you head back downstairs and out the front door, shutting off the lights as you do so and locking the front door behind you.

The walk back to the BOQ is quick- and you’re looking forward to tomorrow, enough that you feel excited. It’s your last selection flight- after this you’ll be flying with one partner for the rest of your career. It’s a pretty major decision, but you’re ready to make it.

Getting to sleep that night isn’t helped by Cass, who sends you a new text every hour or so into the small hours of the morning- eventually you have to shut your phone off. Sisters, you think, as you finally drift off to sleep, are weird.
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And that's it for me for the week!

I'll be packing and cleaning a lot of next week, so the thread may get delayed or cut off, and then the week after I'll be moving, so we probably won't have a thread, but we'll see what happens. In the mean time I'll be around a bit to answer questions as always.

Other than that, till next week, guys, Cheers!
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>>3467557
Thanks for the run Ghost
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>>3467557
What does Slider think about Cass’s attraction?
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>>3467551
>Getting to sleep that night isn’t helped by Cass, who sends you a new text every hour or so into the small hours of the morning- eventually you have to shut your phone off.

We should probably change our locks.
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>>3467557
Thanks for the run Ghost!
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>>3467560

She prefers to ignore that it exists. For her part, Cass hasn't had that many chances to demonstrate it in front of her.
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>>3467557
Thanks for the run boss.
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>>3467557
What did Cass send us!!
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>>3467569
>you note she managed to take the picture in such a way as to catch herself in the full-body mirror of the small wardrobe. You also note, somewhat drily, she’s effectively naked. Again.

A selfie of her in her new quarters on the Kaga.
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>>3467557
Thanks for the run chief. Was too busy to vote today, but I got to post more story yesterday. So super thanks for that!
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>>3467574
Among other things. Cass is very... overt. She also knows that the likelihood of Morgan making a move is pretty limited, so she tries to skew the odds in her favor every chance she gets.
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>>3466553
Fighter pilots make movies; bomber pilots make history.
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>>3466446

I would argue that you're forgetting a key part of any partnership here: The MIU.

We're joining at the brain with our Witch. I think a SOCOM Wyvern would be *amazing*, and we could teach Lotus how to Git Hard. Morgan is absolutely strong enough mentally to show Lotus how to live the Crazy Ninja Life.

We could be the Death In The Night, the Terror Of The Black Sky....DEATH HRONK. Seriously tho, a plane like the Wyvern with a Special Forces mandate would be unstoppable in a role as a raider, deep strike fighter, assassin.

And with a SOCOM billing, we'd be politically *untouchable*. That's Maman's world. The entire special forces community would close ranks around us and we'd disappear into classified missions.

Sounds awesome desu.
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>>3468121
That’s not really how socom works.
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>>3468121
>The entire special forces community would close ranks around us
Is it wrong that I want to pick lotus just so we can set a bunch of hippies against a bunch of spooks?

I mean, I like Lotus anyway, but that’s definitely an appealing facet.
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>>3466446
Just wanted to expand/give my own take on this, since I have nothing better to do on a Sunday.

I'm going to leave Lotus out of my mini-analysis here - while I think she's a pretty interesting character, I just don't think she'd be a good fit for us. Passive main ability, likely to have personal issues in the military, and she could very possibly cause the most issues out of the plane too, what with her family.

Moving to Danielle - she's a real strong candidate, even with the scuffed flight. It's a little premature to say all that much about her before our redo here, but overall I think she's the best match for Morgan. That's however, why I don't think she'd be the best backseater. I don't think doubling down on personality types would be a good idea. Way I see it, with Danielle we're making the choice from the get go to excel in a very specific capacity at the cost of basically anything we did in SW '89. While I get that the general sentiment in this quest is to do the opposite of what Frank did, I feel like that'd get very stale very quickly. I don't doubt that Ghost could throw curveballs at us to mix things up a little, but I'm just leery about locking us too hard to a single role. Also, Ghost has all but looked us in the eye and said that she's gonna be at least a recurring wingman if she's not our backseater.

That leaves Kyou. She's, at least from the very short flight we had so far, the opposite of how we're currently playing Morgan. This is a massive pro in my mind, as it gives Ghost an easy in to push us from getting stuck in an anti-Frank rut. It's baked-in character development as well; we have easy character arcs sitting right there as Morgan and Kyou start to meet in the middle. It feels like she's Ghost's pick as well, from a meta point of view. Everyone we've spoken to regarding the selection process has Kyou on the mind. They're always talking about how strong she is. There's more support in game for her than any of the others. Not to mention that Kyou has repeatedly said that there's more to her than she can reveal - which is pretty weird, yeah, but another baked in story arc that the others just don't have.

Finally, she's the only one that we've had the whole 'tired after flight’ thing. Probably a pretty big con from a character health point of view, but I feel it's a large pro from a story perspective. A slight rehash of what Frank went through, but with a totally different personality in both the front and back seat, as well as what everyone's learned from Frank's experiences, could be a great through-thread for the story.

In short, my take is this: Lotus is a bit of a throw-away choice, unfortunately. We get Danielle no matter what. Kyou appears to be the one with the most plot hooks ready to go, and coupled with how everyone's been talking about her in story, I think she's Ghost's favorite as well. And author approval leads to better stories.
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>>3468608
>I think she's Ghost's favorite as well. And author approval leads to better stories.
Ghost's story is good/Lotus's story will be good anyway. It's quite a vague argument you're pushing. If Lotus wasnt a real option we shouldnt have been given the choice in the first place. She and Danielle are refreshing in that they aren't so thirsty for Morgan.
> Not to mention that Kyou has repeatedly said that there's more to her than she can reveal
This is pretty blunt of her, and it does not mean Morgan knows the others completely by now, or that they dont have hidden depths.
It's good to see you so invested in the quest and Ghost's story tho.
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>>3469490
>This is pretty blunt of her, and it does not mean Morgan knows the others completely by now, or that they dont have hidden depths.

What it means is that Kyou wears a public mask that the others don't.
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>>3469490
>>3469720
Kyou repeatedly saying there's more to her than she can talk about had to do with her magic, not her public vs private mask. The fact she wears a mask is blatantly apparent.
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>>3469755
You sure about that?
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>>3470126
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/3384752/#p3385767
>I have always favored aggression in combat because both it is expected of me and because I am aware of what I can do. I understand if this not something you are comfortable with, but you must understand I am much stronger than they are able to tell.”

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/3384752/#p3386002
> “And I will tell you now, I am not able to show you the extent of my ability in these exercises. I am capable of much more than they can let us show in these narrow trials.”

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/3384752/#p3405449
>“I had forgotten she was one of your adopted sisters as well.” She says. “I am not sure if I told you, but I wasn’t able to display the full range of my ability during our shortened test.” She says. “I cannot tell you anything more, but I suspect your aunt may know more about me than she tells you.”

I'm pretty sure that's all of them from her but I may have missed one.
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>>3469490
It's a vague argument sure, but it's not exactly a stretch to imagine that the author may have favorite characters, is it?
I ran a decently successful (think I had like 170 notified when I went live, so not the most, but decent for non-smut over there) quest over on akun once upon a time, and I sure had characters that I was far more interested in writing than others. Over the course of a few hundred thousand words and several weeks/months/years, things change. I'm sure Ghost knows this more than most – he’s at least a third of what got me into questing in the first place, along with Soma and Aspirational.
I’m not saying this is what’s going on with Lotus. I’d never presume that much about Ghost based off of a few 4chan posts spread out over half a week. I do feel, though, that Kyou is the story default pick – everyone we talk to seems to be in her corner, she’s the most visibly impressive of the bunch, and she’s had the most direct effects on the main character. Danielle comes in second here; she was given another flight, and now we’ve just been told that she’s gonna be poached by Merlin if we don’t pick her. The safe assumption there is that, since Merlin’s with us, Danielle will also be with us. Other characters haven’t been talking about her as much as Kyou, but it sure feels like Ghost wants to keep her around, right? Then we hit Lotus, who is very direct with reservations about being in the military and is immediately talking about how she likes her current job. We also have learned that if we don’t pick her, she has a chance at getting picked up by another Wyvern. Couple layers of her not being let down if we pass her over, right?
Again, I don’t want to make too many assumptions about the hidden machinations of Ghost’s quest (and I do concede that Lotus talking about her reservations/job is way more character trait than the author speaking). But to draw parallels to when I was writing? I’ve done real similar shit when it ended up that I liked option A and B a whole lot more, and C a whole lot less, than I expected. Add in that we had basic information about these characters almost 3 months ago, and therefore we’ve had 3 months to evolve the story in unexpected ways via write-ins or random posts that inspired the author? That stuff leads to plot points/story posts that you might not have thought of when you made the character outlines. I don’t think it’s too far fetched, mostly because it’s happened to me.
Of course, it could be that it’s just me that likes options A and B way more than C, and I’m clawing at nothing trying to justify it. Reading between lines that I’m just imagining. But hey, least I got my point of view out there. It’s a topic that I think applies in just about any quest, and one that I know I sure never thought of before I started running my own.

And just to clarify, >>3470150 got what I meant with 'more than she can reveal'. I was specifically thinking about that third quote.
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>>3470223
Lemme fix that awful formatting, sorry.

>>3469490
It's a vague argument sure, but it's not exactly a stretch to imagine that the author may have favorite characters, is it?

I ran a decently successful (think I had like 170 notified when I went live, so not the most, but decent for non-smut over there) quest over on akun once upon a time, and I sure had characters that I was far more interested in writing than others. Over the course of a few hundred thousand words and several weeks/months/years, things change. I'm sure Ghost knows this more than most – he’s at least a third of what got me into questing in the first place, along with Soma and Aspirational.

I’m not saying this is what’s going on with Lotus. I’d never presume that much about Ghost based off of a few 4chan posts spread out over half a week. I do feel, though, that Kyou is the story default pick – everyone we talk to seems to be in her corner, she’s the most visibly impressive of the bunch, and she’s had the most direct effects on the main character. Danielle comes in second here; she was given another flight, and now we’ve just been told that she’s gonna be poached by Merlin if we don’t pick her. The safe assumption there is that, since Merlin’s with us, Danielle will also be with us. Other characters haven’t been talking about her as much as Kyou, but it sure feels like Ghost wants to keep her around, right? Then we hit Lotus, who is very direct with reservations about being in the military and is immediately talking about how she likes her current job. We also have learned that if we don’t pick her, she has a chance at getting picked up by another Wyvern. Couple layers of her not being let down if we pass her over, right?

Again, I don’t want to make too many assumptions about the hidden machinations of Ghost’s quest (and I do concede that Lotus talking about her reservations/job is way more character trait than the author speaking). But to draw parallels to when I was writing? I’ve done real similar shit when it ended up that I liked option A and B a whole lot more, and C a whole lot less, than I expected. Add in that we had basic information about these characters almost 3 months ago, and therefore we’ve had 3 months to evolve the story in unexpected ways via write-ins or random posts that inspired the author? That stuff leads to plot points/story posts that you might not have thought of when you made the character outlines. I don’t think it’s too far fetched, mostly because it’s happened to me.

Of course, it could be that it’s just me that likes options A and B way more than C, and I’m clawing at nothing trying to justify it. Reading between lines that I’m just imagining. But hey, least I got my point of view out there. It’s a topic that I think applies in just about any quest, and one that I know I sure never thought of before I started running my own.
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>>3470228
You can delete the old post btw, no need to have both now.
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I’m fairly convinced Merlin has a crush on us at this point and I want to test the waters. However, Merlin isn’t Cass. Whatdo?
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>>3470255
Threesome.
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>>3470255

She's also married, with a child, and 20+ years our senior.
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>>3470276
She has two kids and is closer to 16-17 years older then Morgan, though really the age difference is the least important thing of those three.
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>>3470296
She’s also an admiral. Witch privileges or not, it’s a consideration.
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>>3468608

I dunno, I think you're dismissing her to easily. Assuming Lotus=SOCOM, I can totally see why they're taking the risk on her. She's the perfect test pilot because she's an all-rounder: Air-To-Air, Air-To-Ground, Sensors, Engines, Shields. These same traits make her an ideal partner for a SOCOM Special Wyvern: You'd be working alone, every mission would be different, and you'd be pushing the capabilities of the airframe to the limit with every new challenge and mission. She clearly wasn't all that chuffed at flying SEVEN THOUSAND MILES PLUS COMBAT in one day, can't be that much of a pushover.

And I reiterate: I think Lotus is a lot more complex and combat worthy than you think. Why should Kyou have all the fun with hidden depths? Lol, seriously tho, SOCOM has been *SUPER* blatant in their interest in getting Lotus in the Wyvern, and I can't see them being that insistent without a really good reason, especially with someone like Lotus.

I absolutely agree that Kyou has serious waifu points and Witchy benefits, but being "Flying Magical Brick" doesn't sound nearly as fun as "The Highly Classified Adventures Of Cat-Man and Hellgoose"
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>>3470342
>The Highly Classified Adventures Of Cat-Man and Hellgoose
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>>3470342

I agree, being SOCOM would be fun. Would we have to go through some SEAL training? Plus who knows, we might actually work with Goose.
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>>3470274
No offense to anyone who likes them (or creates them), but I’m normally not big on those in quests because harems are practically cliche on this board. I suppose it’s worth a thought if it can be handled absolutely masterfully, but I would still prefer to avoid it and miss out on an option than potentially cheapen the relationship that we do end up in. I truly didn’t think it would be so hard to pick just one with the implied MIU fiat... figures it would be the backseater and done... but these other characters are so compelling and already have such interesting and unique relationships with Morgan.
>>3470276
Magic. Sham marriage (speculation). MILFs are cool. Childhood crush/pilot of her dreams.
>>3470326
At least she isn’t our CO. She’s just the crew chief/mad scientist. Pretty sure it’d be manageable with the unique relationship here.
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>>3470390
>crew chief
That's what makes it EXTRA HERESY.
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>>3470342
>Assuming Lotus=SOCOM
Um. I'm not saying that wouldn't be fun but that is a TREMENDOUS leap of logic.

We signed up to be a NAVY pilot. Do you really think the brass is going to allow SOCOM to poach us away from the fleet just to sit on our ass 99% of the time and only emerge to do secret squirrel shit? At most SOCOM can pull some strings and get a wyvern assigned to one of their missions, like the training exercise we just did. The wyvern alone costs more than a missile cruiser, that's why the SIO selection process is practically speed dating despite the implications of our choice lasting for DECADES. They would rather risk a match now rather than keep the wyvern out of combat service for another day because it's that expensive.
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>>3467569
She "accidentally" sent us a compromising picture of herself.
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>>3470644
That would be a very Cass move, yes.
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>>3470644
>>3470666
>Send one back
No harm in it.
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>>3470675
Yes, there is.
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>>3470675
>>3470689
^
oh, there is so much harm in it.
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>>3470689
>>3470721
Humor me, what’s the worst that can realistically happen
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>>3470725
We spend the rest of our natural life in Ft. Leavenworth. Not that’s its likely mind you, but you asked for the worse case and that’s kinda it.
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>>3470342
I’ll grant the endurance. I looked at her file from thread one; she’s not too bad on paper. But I’ll contest the SOCOM benefits for a moment. This is specifically with the assumption that we were to have Kyou in the back, and Danielle with Merlin.

Anyway, there's specific mentions of weapons, sensors, and ‘keeping aircraft flying beyond their tolerances’, which is airframe/engine. Sounds pretty good, truth be told.

She was noticeably tired via the link during our flight, but there were no audible or outward signs otherwise. That’s honestly better than Kyou. For WEP, Lotus had a “surprised squeak”, Danielle reacted as well, and Kyou didn’t give a fuck. While Kyou didn’t show any signs of tiredness during the flight, I think it was the shortest of the bunch, and we got hit by the drain once we landed. But yeah, Lotus wins there, A+. There might be something to be said about the intensity of the other flights compared to hers, but I don’t think I could take that argument anywhere.

Perfect direction-keeping is very useful, but very niche. Supposing we’re in a SOCOM role requiring a Wyvern, I don’t think there’s many reasons we wouldn’t be able to have Danielle in Merlin’s super experimental thing by our side. She’d be able to push the X foot gap between radar coverage to an X thousand foot gap. Something to be said for not needing a wingman at all, but why not stack the deck in your favor? Couple that with actual advance planning and Lotus’ brand of long range navigational ability seems moot, but I could be missing something.

For keeping the aircraft flying, I wonder how that might stack up against Kyou’s anti-inertial shield thing she has going on. Between her shield being dummy thick and our frame not caring about things like gravity, we might not need to worry about the structure at all with Kyou. While she’d be worse if there was something preexisting, she’d ideally be able to better keep things from cropping up. A larger concern is the engine wear and tear, but that could also be mitigated by telling physics to fuck off. That one’s on how far Ghost wants that to go.

Nothing of note regarding sensors or weapons happened in our flight, so those comparisons are lost – honestly the most of note thing to happen to the weapons of any flight was that we let Kyou launch a few, which just shows she has basic target selection capabilities, nothing special.

In the end, that endurance seems like a real standout point. I’m still not sold on Lotus, in my mind her all-roundedness means what she brings to the table could be easily found in wingmen or support, but a deeper dive has shown her to be more capable than I initially thought. My primary concern, however, remains her personality in regards to the transition to military, how she deals with combat, and what her mother’s reputation/reaction might bring about.

And really, it’d be more like an inertialess flying brick – way cooler.
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>>3470732
>realistically
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>>3470725
>>3470759
And encouraging her crush on us isn't a bad thing? One that Morgan, in character, doesn't reciprocate?
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>>3470806
> One that Morgan, in character, doesn't reciprocate?
Yet. There are plenty who like her. If not, I’m sure she will appreciate something more than nothing
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>>3470864
There's been maybe two of you who are vocally into that.

I'm personally of the opinion we should keep ignoring everything she does that's outside being a sister.
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>>3470897
Considering this is the first time I’ve mentioned her in this quest and I’ve seen a few others...

It’s fine if you want something different though.
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>>3470390
>figures it would be the backseater and done...
Sexing your closest co-worker is nice when it goes well and horrible when you have a falling out. Especially when it hinders teamwork.
This of course being true in real life as much as the quest.
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>>3470756
>For WEP, Lotus had a “surprised squeak”, Danielle reacted as well, and Kyou didn’t give a fuck.
Danielle was unfamiliar with some aspects of the plane as shown in the mission, and shows her emotions, compared to Kyou's stiff upper lip in anything. A unfair comparison. Also, during which mission did we WEP the longest ?
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Lotus and long-distance flights? Forget SOCOM, how about Space Witches 2025, where Auntie M gets to embarrass Elon? Mars or bust!
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>>3471147
It's normal for a Wyvern crew to be in a relationship.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/3302867/#p3338065
>And the MUI is like that, yes. It's why the Navy and Coven board put so much emphasis on making absolutely certain the aircrew isn't made up of a witch and pilot who hate each other and the selection is so tightly monitored- they can't afford a bad match. While it's not unheard of to have a situation where one or the other member of the crew has an outside relationship, it's the exception rather than the rule.
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>>3470342
>"The Highly Classified Adventures Of Cat-Man and Hellgoose"
I’ll be honest, I’m down for literally anything that isn’t “don’t worry about ground targets, just kill everything that flies”

Also, given that Kyou has so much pointing towards her being the best choice, either A) she’s got some serious downside, like “kills her partner after a handful of flights” or B) she’s the designated waifu and Ghost is pushing us towards her intentionally, or C) both. I want to avoid the former for obvious reasons. And if the case is the second one, then I am morally and contractually obligated to say “fuck you” and try and push us to something not that.
At this point, I don’t care if we go for Danielle or Lotus. Either is better than Kyou
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>>3471236

I try, very, very hard to not do that kind of thing. I know sometimes I am *very* bad at not letting biases show towards characters I enjoy working with, but I try to avoid that kind of thing as much as I can. It doesn't work for me, and I'm big into making sure everyone's having fun- if I wanted to write a story with a designated ship, It wouldn't be a quest! Hahaha!
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Ok so would an optimal setup for us flying be Kyou in the Backseat, Lotus in one of those underslung centerline witch pods guiding us to target so she doesn't need to kill anyoneand Danielle on our wing in that prototype that Merlin mentioned?
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>>3471236
Quit overthinking everything. Just because we did one air superiority mission with Kyou doesn't mean our entire career will be nothing but that. Just like how one mission with Lotus that fits a SOCOM support profile doesn't mean that we can dictate our career parameters to the NAVY and fly nothing but specops stuff.
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I will say that I am not really a fan of Danielle because while she is undoubtedly extremely useful, I feel that honestly she is too specialized.
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>>3471362
Put Lotus in AWACS strikers (or an actual AWACS) and have her coordinate.
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>>3471608
No doubt. But, that’s what the re-flight is for. She’s so obviously specialized and the mission we ran with her perfectly fit that speciality (hit-and-fade against radar-defended ground targets) so we need to re-flight to figure out if that’s all she can do.
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>>3471236
>I’ll be honest, I’m down for literally anything that isn’t “don’t worry about ground targets, just kill everything that flies”
I don’t want to carry bombs though. They’re such a waste of space in an air superiority fighter. Imagine what we could’ve done with an extra tank on that last mission. We could’ve comfortably neutralized the witches (or tried to) and then we could’ve strafed the airfield with all of those cannons. Instead, the biggest recurring issue aside from stealth was our fuel levels.

Kyou is probably the best option in the aircraft, but is also the most likely to second guess us. Working with her presents a unique set of challenges that happen to have the highest potential payout. To me, that is the more interesting and compelling, but I can see others choosing a safer yet less powerful option (especially with this tendency to avoid taking any risks despite the potential payout).
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>>3471236
>“kills her partner after a handful of flights
Ace Combat x Franxx quest when. Ghostdivision ?
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>>3471772

If we take Danielle, we might end up doing a lot of Wild Weasel missions. Where we are going out with the specific job of actually hunting Anti-Aircraft sites.

Another possibility with Danielle is that we are sent out hunting AWACS.
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>>3471772
>I don’t want to carry bombs though. They’re such a waste of space in an air superiority fighter.
So, not a pound for air-to-ground?
The undefeated world heavyweight champion Eagle-chan agrees.
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>>3471779
That seems more like planefag territory to me.

I want it.
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>>3471772
>to avoid taking any risks
I wonder what SOCOM thinks about taking such risks, even if we didn't always take the safest option as you're trying to strawman.
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Tell me why we cant have another backseat installed or the current one slightly enlarged so we can fit another witch.
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>>3471794

Sometimes you gotta take risks, we're piloting an expensive craft yes. But we're not going to be able to use it too its fullest potential if we don't take risks.
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>>3471806
Can we, if the AI's learning has been stunted until we complete the selection ? And for that reason, do we have to go redline on our next flight already ? Although we can talk with the witch we're flying with next and ask if she can do a little more.
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>>3471236
>>3471273
Well there we go. Word of God showing that y'all going "SHE HAS TO HAVE A NASTY DOWNSIDE" are paranoid and overthinking it.
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>>3471784
I’m thinking of the F-19 missions set from Red Storm Rising (precision stealth deep strikes—including ground and airborne radars—but also fuel depots, runways, and CPs) but with air-to-air capabilities so we aren’t just doing hit-and-fades. It could be a super nifty niche and different than Frank so we’re not just doing the same thing.

Moreover, and I’m repeating myself here so forgive me, but anon really doesn’t understand how much better SAMs and SSMs are now. The Chinese aren’t going to be sending fighters up to shoot us down—they’re going to be using massive SAMs with ludicrous ranges and circular kill probables measured in hundreds of meters.

Nor are they going to be sending planes after our carriers—they’ll use long range ‘carrier killer’ SSMs that can one-shot a Nimitz and get volleyed by the dozen. Indeed, ChiCom doctrine is the same as the old USSR—shoot more missiles at the carrier than its escorts have missiles to shoot back. In other words, even if the escorts get a 1-1 kill ratio on the SSMs (which will never happen), the carrier will still die. Give Clancy credit where credit is due—RSR did a superb job of showing carriers losing the carrier versus missile fight—and that was with 1980s light aircraft-carried anti-ship missiles.

And on that note, remember that the missiles will ALWAYS outrage our carrier planes because they don’t have to carry the weight of pilots and their life-support gear, don’t have to nerf their maneuverability to avoid killing a pilot, and only have to make a one-way trip. Thus, those islands the Chinese have set up ensure that a carrier battle group is not going to get anywhere CLOSE to the mainland.

In short, we CAN’T replay Frank even if we wanted to if we’re going up against the PLA, PLAAF, and PLAN—we’ll end up very dead, very quick, and to a missile that costs a fraction of our airframe. Not to mention we’ll get our carrier killed trying to get us close enough.

What we CAN do is run low level precision strikes on those very bases to clear the way for our carriers by killing search radars, SSMs (and their targeting radars) and SAMs (and their targeting radars). But to do that we’ll have to go in with a precision anti-ground load and tons of extra fuel. And for that type of precision Danielle is probably going to be the better choice. Now, if we get jumped (and the ChiComs are building runways on some of their new islands) then Kyou would be very helpful—but even then our objective will be to run away and live to fight another day—and personality wise I’m not sure that’s her cup of tea.

As far as Lotus, she’d be a major asset for getting us to those little islands, but I’m still not sold on her as a combat witch. Now, put her in a Hawkeye to walk us in by SATCOM, and that’s a whole different story...

Anyway, just my opinions of course—take them for whatever they’re worth.
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>>3471812
>all that bullshit about carriers
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>>3471812

I very ,much enjoyed the F-19 sections of Red Storm Rising, hell the establishing character moment of the F-19 was awesome, where those stealth fighters splashed I think it was Mainstays more or less simultaneously.

In Red Storm Rising though I wouldn't call the AS-6 "Kingfish" launched by Soviet Tu-22M Backfires a lightweight Anti-Ship Missile, the thing weighs 4,000-kilograms at launch, has a maximum speed that approaches Mach 3, and can heft 1,000-kilograms of pain.

Its no surprise that one of those caused the Saipan to explode, while three sank the Foch, and two put the Nimitz out of action for pretty much the entire war.

But against the Chinese? We'd have to be careful.
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>>3471812
>Moreover, and I’m repeating myself here so forgive me, but anon really doesn’t understand how much better SAMs and SSMs are now.

I think you are vastly underestimating Kyou's ludicrous-tier shield and physics breaking shenanigans.

Also on carrier defense shenanigans, if you think the USN hasn't been burning the midnight oil coming up with counters for that, you're underestimating the Navy.

In short you're thinking like those idiots on /k/ who are all like "LOLOLOL CARRIERS IRRELEVANT BECAUSE OF CHINK SUPER MISSILE", not realizing that the US has had 30 years to come with a counter for that.
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>>3471832
>Also on carrier defense shenanigans, if you think the USN hasn't been burning the midnight oil coming up with counters for that, you're underestimating the Navy.

In Red Storm Rising, the Soviets sucker-punched a combined American-French Battlegroup badly using a clever tactic.

The first part of this tactic involved Tu-16 "Badgers", they came in and were armed with old AS-5 "Kelts", just before they launched, they initiated jamming which meant that radars had to go active in order to burn through said jamming. The "Badgers" then launched their Kelts, which had been modified to emit a signature similar to the search radar that the Tu-22M "Backfire" was equipped with. The Kelts drew the American F-14 Tomcats off, when they got in missile range they started launching their AIM-54s, but they were wondering why the Soviets were acting so dumb. Then they got illuminated by a Tu-95RT with its big Surface Search radar and it was around this time that the Tomcats got into Camera Range and found out they were shooting at Kelts. Then the Backfires appeared and delivered a nasty spanking to the Americans and the French. Let's see, I think the total was two Frigates, one Destroyer, French Carrier Foch, the American Assault Ship Saipan all sunk, Ticonderoga had her aft superstructure shredded by a near miss, Nimitz had her arresting wire system and CIC wiped out (almost everyone in CIC was killed), and the other carrier the Saratoga I think had her radar mast amputated.

Plus its known that in Strikers '89 that the Saratoga did get hit.

So honestly with the right tactic, a missile attack will most certainly hurt.
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>>3471851
I don't think anyone is denying that missiles can and will hurt if something clever is pulled. The post he is replying to however essentially says that a carrier is toast no matter what if it gets within range of missiles. Which is not true.
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>>3471868

Yeah, you got to get around the AEGIS ships first because they got a lot of missiles. I would be more worried about the PLAN Submarine Force, sure they got a lot of crappy subs. But they also got a number of very good submarines, like the Kilo class and some of the newer Ming class submarines.
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>>3471882
The point Clancy made in RSR, which is a real fear, is getting shot at by more than the Aegis ships can shoot down. Once they’re out, it’s game over. That was the real soviet doctrine, and now its PLAN’s doctrine.
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>>3471868
I don’t spend any time on this board other than Ghost’s quests so I can’t claim familiarity with the debate being referenced. What I can say is that we haven’t run a single carrier on a freedom of navigation exercise through the Yellow or South China Seas since they built those islands. We’ve run destroyers, at high speed. That tells us all we need to know.

Sure, we’ve got a dozen fleet carriers (if you count the Ford) plus the mini-carriers (LHDs, etc.)—and they’d all be sunk before they got within 500 miles of the Chinese coastline. Period. That’s not BS, that’s our current doctrine. A Tico has 122 SAMs and we only have 22 of them—rarely more than one per carrier battlegroup. That’s what got the Saipan and Foch toasted in RSR, and it’s our biggest worry today. That’s what the Tico refits almost doubled the SAM load over the baselines.

Sure, if we hit them with all of the carriers and escorts at the same time we’d smoke them easily (because we’d have so many escorts we’d be able to down the SSMs) but that’s never going to happen. We’ve never put more than three CVNs in the same operational theater at the same time—and I can’t see that changing. Too much risk (e.g. a tactical nuclear strike).

Every simulation I’ve seen of putting a carrier group (or three) inside the Philippines-Formosa-Japan line does not end well for us.

And before anybody starts talking about submarines and Tomahawks to take out those batteries—check the average depth in the area and the problem with that solution becomes apparent. Spirits could be doable but we just don’t have enough of them. Air launched cruise missiles are a possibility—but, again, the islands are specifically designed to put them out of range if the mainland. If we don’t ‘sink’ their unsinkable aircraft carriers, they’re going to be able to keep us out of range if the mainland.

In short, the ChiComs aren’t stupid (and neither are we). Everything between China and Taiwan is a carrier no-go in the event of war until those SSM sites are neutralized. Once that’s done, then the fun begins. Our doctrine focuses on making that happen, and theirs focuses on stopping us.

Now, I do not claim to be the god of US carrier tactics, much less in somebody else’s fictional world. So I’m hardly going to go throw a fit if Ghost starts throwing fleet carriers into the SCS. But, if we’re assuming that the QuestChiComs disposition and tactics mirror their real-world counterparts, then there is an opportunity for us to do the deep-strike missions that would be necessary to put a carrier group in range of the mainland with some margin of safety—and I’d personally enjoy that mission profile. That was the only point I was trying to make—not start an argument on whether carriers are obsolete (hint: they aren’t).
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>>3472123

It also depends if the Nuclear Powered Cruisers were kept in service, particularly considering that around this time they were lined up to receive the New Threat Upgrade which is a nasty little upgrade allowing ships with the NTU to effectively slave their Missile FCS to an AEGIS ship without having to go active with their own radars. Plus the Long Beach, might still be in service having been retrofitted to an AEGIS cruiser herself. But I don't know.

I do know that in Tom Clancy's novel, SSN that depth often times played merry hell with sonar performance and that the smaller submarines that China uses operate much better in that area than our big boats.
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>>3472123
>A Tico has 122 SAMs and we only have 22 of them—rarely more than one per carrier battlegroup.
There's also usually 2-3 Burkes per group each with 96 cells, fewer for the earlier flights though not by much. Though to be fair both the Ticos and the Burkes tend to carry mixed loads.
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>>3472227

It should also be noted that while they do have cells with RIM-162s, also known as the Evolved Sea Sparrow, they can have those things quad-packed, which means they carry four-missiles per cell, however only Burkes starting with DDG-79 can carry them, but that means that even if you only have ten cells carrying ESSMs your carrying forty of the damned things.

However we also have to remember that in Strikers 89, WWIII started just as Burke production was beginning. So its entirely likely that the Burkes as an idea were scrapped or we decided to use them as DESRON Flotilla Leaders and we hurriedly designed then built because a smaller class of AEGIS equipped destroyer because at that point, only USS Arleigh Burke would've been afloat and she wasn't even commissioned yet, while USS Barry the 2nd ship in the class hadn't even been laid down yet.

So it was a case of design something that's roughly the size of a Long-Hulled OHP, equipped with a 5in gun, AEGIS, and a VLS much quicker or wait who knows how long while the yards hurriedly work on the new Burkes, while the new destroyer can be built at all the yards that have worked on the OHPs.
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>>3472257
>So its entirely likely that the Burkes as an idea were scrapped
Nope, Burkes got mentioned last thread.
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>>3471794
They prize ingenuity and adaptive thinking over avoiding all risk. But what do I know?

It’s not straw manning to point out an obvious trend. With debatable exceptions on some stealth decisions, we have consistently picked the safest and most by-the-book approaches, even going as far as to lose points in these events in an effort to avoid any risk. Some groups may like that, I think? But others will be less than impressed by this “stick it to the brass with technical success” mentality. People have been shitlisted for that.
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>>3472273

Well maybe as an idea they weren't entirely scrapped, but I doubt there is as many of them around. Due to the fact that in-universe, it would likely be a case of needing new hulls now, thus they have likely been relegated to the destroyer leader role like in the JMSDF of OTL. While a new smaller class of AEGIS destroyers were built during WWIII, just because we can crank out a 450-foot ship quicker than a 530-odd foot long ship.
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>>3472361
>While a new smaller class of AEGIS destroyers were built during WWIII, just because we can crank out a 450-foot ship quicker than a 530-odd foot long ship.

This has literally never been mentioned in any part of the quest. Where are you getting your info?
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>>3472388
He's not, he's making shit up.
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>>3472388
Autists gonna autist in a setting that uses real world tech.
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>>3472388

I am just postulating here. Because we don't know if that is what happened or not, it could be an example similar to the M3 Lee "We need a decent tank now, rather than waiting six months to a year for the newer and better Sherman to enter service."

Because while the Pacific seemed to be fairly quiet, you can bet that the Atlantic would have been an utter meat-grinder for hulls because of the fact that with Iceland under Soviet control, we would have lost a SOSUS Line and a vital airbase allowing the Soviets to hit the convoys and carrier groups with missile armed bombers and submaries as they please.

The AS-6 Kingfish was designed to sink carriers, the thing had a warhead big enough that even having one blow up maybe two hundred meters away thanks to CIWS would turn the superstructure into swiss cheese just from all fragments and if you took a direct hit, your ship was likely on a one-way trip to the bottom.

Plus we had that other Soviet Super Sub running around, given the firepower of that thing, makes you wonder.
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>>3472421
If we know that the first Burke was (near) ready when the war kicked off, it actually makes more sense to ramp up production of a known and at least somewhat tested design instead of trying to design something else for a similar role from scratch.

Assuming more yards could take up production, more Burkes could actually be the most efficient option.
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>>3472212
Point. And nukes could support directed energy weapons as a CIWS so that changes the figures too. Not saying that the jig is up in-quest, but I doubt the Navy is any more willing to put the CVNs in harms way than they are now—ESPECIALLY after losing the Saratoga last quest. Things like that tend to haunt tacticians.
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>>3472257
There’s no doubt our CBGs carry a shit-ton of SAMs. The issue is the kill ratio. If we get 1-1 or even 2-1 then we’d probably be okay. But the real figures ain’t that good—and that’s not even taking into account the hypersonics that the ChiComs may or may not have in this quest...
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>>3472431
You don't just counter missiles with missiles. Jamming, decoys, and general ECM are the other half of the equation, and historically, ECM has done more to thwart missile threats than interceptors. Take the USS Mason, which was fired at multiple times by Chinese-made anti-ship missiles, and none of them even got into CWIS range thanks a combination of jamming and the deployment of Nulka decoys.

Not to mention, these ultra long range missiles need a kill chain to guide them to the carrier group, which, unlike many other strategic targets, can actively move. Anti-ship missiles need to be constantly updated on the fleet's position in real time or they'll never actually find their target. One of the reasons the US never developed ultra long range anti-ship missiles was because they concluded that they could make the longest range missile, but that range would be useless if they didn't have the capability to actually get accurate targeting data at those ranges.
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>>3472428
>ESPECIALLY after losing the Saratoga last quest.
How the fuck do you mix up the Kitty Hawk and the Saratoga? Saratoga got hit but was repaired, Kitty Hawk went down due to maser fire.
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>>3472307
I get it. Some of this is due to the fact that some people who actually live (or used to live) in the military world enjoy these quests (kinda like some cops like police procedural because they show all the stuff a beat cop wishes they could do but can’t in the real world) but tend, due to their training, to be more conservative. So it can be fun to play around in a fictional world but still have SOME of the constraints that would be in place in the real world (albeit a real world where pantless little girls are a major military asset).

That said, I more than I’d understand anons (both military and civilian) who want to just say fuck it and blow shit up. I’m not inextricably tied to either path, though I (obviously) prefer the more ‘realistic’ route where an aircraft of this price-tag is NOT going to be thrown willy-billy into a furball unless there is no other choice. Either way, I’m not going to cause any problems and will be happy to roll with whatever anon chooses and Ghost throws at us. Of course, I’ll still pitch in for my preferred path when appropriate but I take no offense when anon chooses to go a totally different direction.

In short—I’m looking forward to the ride regardless of how we play this.
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>>3472443
Because I’m an idiot. Obviously. Thanks for catching that switcharoo. Doesn’t change the substance of my point, but my mistake anyway.
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>>3472439
No doubt. But our experience with post-2000 missiles against our latest jamming tech under actual combat conditions at a fleet level is basically non-existent. Simulations and exercises (even live fire ones) can only do so much.

And the Russian inter-missile communication systems that the ChiComs bought have never been tested in actual combat either. You may very well be right that we’d spoof the hell out of them. Or, it could be that the big radar sets they’re setting up on the islands coupled with satellite guidance would but right through it. I have no idea. I’m just hesitant to risk a carrier if I don’t have to—and I suspect we’d try to knock out those sites before we trailed our coat inside the perimeter.
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>>3472428

We lost the Kitty Hawk last quest, though Saratoga did get by Soviet or Chinese bombers. Hell, some elements of Red Storm Rising were taken for Strikers '89, with the Soviet Operation Polar Glory (the Soviet Invasion of Iceland), this also likely means that the French lost the Foch and the Nimitz got her teeth smashed in by two missiles (one hit the aft port corner of the flightdeck and the other landed right on top of the number two arresting wire, CIC got wiped out too) and the Saratoga (more likely another aircraft carrier instead of the Saratoga since Super Sara was in the Pacific Fleet) got her radar mast amputated, Tico's aft superstructure got shredded, Saipan took a hit and blew the fuck up, two frigates, and a destroyer also sunk. The joint American-French taskforce had been given the job of booting the Soviets off of Iceland, since the loss of Iceland and the Greenland-Iceland SOSUS Line meant that we had a hole in our defenses against bombers and submarines.

This would've happened on literally day one or two of the war, all of the news stations would've been focusing on Europe blowing wide open and Iceland getting invaded so that carrier group getting smashed probably went by everyone's notice at least until Nimitz and her nuclear powered escorts limped in. But since there was no mention of it, it probably didn't happen or maybe it did and we just didn't hear about it.
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>>3472467
>This would've happened on literally day one or two of the war
The Soviets didn't invade Iceland until months into the war
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>>3472777

Okay, huh thought that would've been something that they would've done right at the start. Its what I would've done, knocked Iceland out of the War would've allowed me to rip the Greenland-Iceland SOSUS line and part of the Iceland-United Kingdom SOSUS Line apart, allowing my submarines near free reign in the Atlantic forcing NATO to assign fast attack boats to plug the holes. Plus it would've allowed me to have an emergency landing site for my Backfires, Badgers. and Bears as they beat the shit out of convoys and the occasional carrier group.
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>>3472467
There's nothing to support RSR being canon to '89. Case in point >>3472777
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>>3472796

Honestly, just replace the invasion of Alaska with Seattle and I would have had a hard time believing that Strikers '89 had bits of World in Conflict was canon.
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>>3472796
Wasn’t saying it was—I was just using it as a decently well-researched example of carriers versus missiles and a possible mission profile for us.
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We should definitely send a picture to Cass. she's lonely at sea, doesn't need to be anything overtly sexual-just a shirtless selfie to hold her over.
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>>3472874
This. And consider deleting the picture of Cass. It might get her (and you) in mild trouble if anyone finds it on your phone.
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Think that we might be able to "Play Zeus" as it were by flying stratospheric in order to fly over the maximum radar altitude of enemy SAM radars, then come down pretty much right on top of the SAM sites like an enraged Thunder God?
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>>3472874
I’m down.
>>3472941
They’d have a lot of explaining to do if they’re going through our phone. Easy to play dumb on with the way she sent it using a mirror.
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>>3472428
>but I doubt the Navy is any more willing to put the CVNs in harms way than they are now
Unless technological advances make CVNs less "sinkable".
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>>3472307
>People have been shitlisted for that.
Morgan Laroux-Bishop, one of two Wyvern pilots, won't be shitlisted as fast. And the fact that the witch from last battle thought she was fighting a veteran Wyv pilot, says enough I think. And there is the thing of OOC abuse, pushing it knowing that Ghost wont let us be shot down, our Wyvern trashed, or Morgan being significantly injured.
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>>3472971
I thought I saw a number of around 40 wyverns? The best of the best and all that. How do you think the risk takers that could back it up scored? Mommy and daddy’s names become far less relevant compared to demonstrated performance when shit pops off. If you’re a mover and shaker about to send your boys in, do you want the pilot and fucks names and takes bitches or the one that checks objectives off on a clipboard and leaves a mess on the ground and in the air? “Mission accomplished” is a dirty phase in modern warfare.

...we’ve been shot down before. And injured severely. And technically killed. Give the QM some more credit. Regardless, I don’t see how having a different opinion is abusing the meta.
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>>3472971
>one of two Wyvern pilots
What? There's a little under 40 Wyverns.

>Ghost wont let us be shot down, our Wyvern trashed, or Morgan being significantly injured.
You want fibersteel in Morgan's chest? That's how you get fibersteel in Morgan's chest.
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>>3472874
Brother!
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>>3472957
Point, but blowing big holes in the hull is still a proven method of sinking just about anything.
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>>3473007
>Mission accomplished” is a dirty phase in modern warfare.

Uh, no. The modern US Navy is ALL about accomplishing the mission and returning with the crew uninjured and the airplane in one piece. Staying on mission is a huge point of emphasis in all of the uniformed services—and even units given a lot of leeway in defining their own mission (e.g. special forces operators) still live and breath the mission.

Frankly, the real-world Navy would be delighted at getting somebody who can do the crazy shit that Frank did but can also stay on mission and execute a pretty flawless battleplan when called upon to do so. That may be a bit different in-verse due to witches and their know predilection for independent action—but I’ve seen nothing to suggest that the rank and file are THAT different than reality.

In my opinion (for what that’s worth) the only critical mistake on our first mission was the brass not telling us that we were SUPPOSED to show off—which is why we get another shot with Danielle to do that (if we can).
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>>3473118
>the brass not telling us that we were SUPPOSED to show off
Not even our mistake. That first mission was flawless.
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>>3472123
I'm going to disagree heavily with your assessment, and say that you must not have been looking very hard.

A Carrier Strike Group is going to consist of at bare minimum the CV, 2x DDGs, and 1x CG. Burkes have quite a lot of payload themselves, and do posses the AEGIS system. In times of war, we quite probably would see that increased by one or more Burkes.

Additionally, the biggest problem with this situation is one of targeting. A carrier strike group can actually be very damn sneaky when it needs to be. The link below tells an interesting story in addition to being educational and is definitely worth a full read. The long and short of it is that in 1982, a CVBG snuck in undetected into striking distance of Vladivostok and stayed there for four days undetected, running "mirror strikes" on Vladivostok (basically running strikes in the exact opposite direction, but the same distance from the carrier). After that, they revealed that they were in fact present and then for four more days dodged every single Soviet attempt to find them until they thought they had learned everything they needed to and didn't want to let the Soviets learn any more. Long story short: the best way to avoid getting shot is to avoid being seen with enough clarity to get a targeting solution.

http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-031.php

As for putting a carrier in the Taiwan Straight during wartime, why would you want to? You can sail on the opposite side of Taiwan and do everything you would be doing.
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>>3473007
>do you want the pilot and fucks names and takes bitches or the one that checks objectives off on a clipboard and leaves a mess on the ground and in the air?
the RIP AND TEAR pilot wouldn't care about leaving a mess on the ground and in the air just as long as his ego was statisfied and there was a carnage.
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>>3473198
Well I'm sure Morgan'll end up with his fair share of scars depending on how things go.
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>>3471812
>Nor are they going to be sending planes after our carriers—they’ll use long range ‘carrier killer’ SSMs that can one-shot a Nimitz and get volleyed by the dozen. Indeed, ChiCom doctrine is the same as the old USSR—shoot more missiles at the carrier than its escorts have missiles to shoot back. In other words, even if the escorts get a 1-1 kill ratio on the SSMs (which will never happen), the carrier will still die. Give Clancy credit where credit is due—RSR did a superb job of showing carriers losing the carrier versus missile fight—and that was with 1980s light aircraft-carried anti-ship missiles.
So let me interject a little bit here. I want you to step back a little and think of the actual technology here.

No, the Backfires were not launching tiny little missiles that needed to be massed in order to achieve kills. They were massing VERY BIG missiles that could each kill a ship that it hit, or at the very least so seriously damage it as to be highly likely to render it combat ineffective. The reason they were massing them was not because they needed multiple hits per target, but rather that the defenses were very strong. They needed to mass an entire regiment of bombers toting multiple missiles apiece in order to try and make sure some of the missiles got through to hit the right target. Even back then, the intercepting missiles were highly capable and they had a lot of them. That being said, the biggest problem they had was that of rate of fire. The ships that were around in Red Storm Rising were all using arm launchers. These carried one or two missiles on arms which had to acquire a new missile after each firing. Understandably, these have significant rate of fire concerns. When you've got missiles as fast as them, ships wouldn't be able to fire their SAMs fast enough, so they would die with still relatively full ammunition loads. VLS, on the other hand, allows for vastly improved rate of fire. You can be launching a missile every second. Rate of fire can still be a concern, but generally you're going to be getting off a lot more missiles than before.

The USN works under the assumption that it will take three of their missiles to intercept any one enemy missile. That being said, the British Royal Navy works under the assumption that it takes two. I'd say two is probably more likely, but the British are working under much greater fiscal restraints, as well as restraints on the number of missiles that can fit in their ships' magazines. The US can quite literally afford the money and space for the extra surety that driving that pk (percent chance of kill) even higher. To put it into perspective, the UK could think that their missiles have a 95% chance of killing an incoming vampire with two missiles, but the US would like to drive that number even higher, and so budgets three missiles for a kill. That being said, I will use both numbers to illustrate this.

cont.
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>>3471812
>>3473324
A CSG normally contains at least three escorts: A Ticonderoga and two Arleigh Burke class. I will assume that each of these ships has approximately 2/3rds of their maximum number of VLS cells filled with SAMs. For the Burkes, 60 cells. For the Tico, 100 cells. Additionally, a number of these are be filled with ESSM, which can be packed four to a cell. I'm going to assume that it's 10 cells on the Burkes and 20 on the Tico, for a total of 90 SAMs per Burke and 180 per Tico, and a grand total of 360 SAMs in the CSG, not counting the CV's limited armament.

If we use the US's estimate, that's 120 downed vampires. The UK's: 180.

But then we have to look at more considerations: the weapons themselves. To make a long story short (because it's getting late), the vast majority of the Chinese anti-ship missile capability they have is not in fact the scary and long ranged DF-21s or -26s, but rather much shorter ranged missiles of a rather large variety. Even then, let's assume they have a theoretically unlimited supply of missiles. You then need the TELs to launch them. Each one of those big ones needs to be carried singly in a TEL. How many TELs do the Chinese have for those types? How many missiles can they mass on one target? That being said, they are relatively fewer than the more prevalent smaller types

The Chinese make use of a wide variety of smaller anti-ship missiles. The TELs for them are far more mobile and easier to hide. However, if we go back to the carrier group here for a moment, we need to actually shoot at the things. We'll go with the YJ-62A. Their TELs carry 3 missiles each. In order to overwhelm a carrier group, they'd need to mass 41 (US) or 61 (UK) TELs to get hits on the ships inside. I highly doubt they can even fit that many on the islands. Additionally, all of the smaller ones have a shorter range than the carrier group's fighters. A pop up attack conducted by Super Hornets and Growlers could hit them even behind SAM coverage. Or they could be doing long range attacks with standoff weaponry, able to quickly dive if fired upon a hundred nmi away. Even if the missile somehow maintains its lock, it's going to have to dive back into the dense air towards the surface and will burn its energy doing so, thus likely defeating the missile. The even scarier part is with stealth aircraft. They don't give a single fuck about your SAMs. In the most recent Red Flag, the Italians brought in their F-35s for the first time and were RAVING about its performance in SEAD.

https://theaviationist.com/2019/04/02/heres-what-three-italian-f-35-instructor-pilots-with-62nd-fs-have-to-say-about-their-first-red-flag-with-the-lightning-ii/

Long story short, yes, it's certainly possible to fight such islands with aircraft, even with theoretically no tankers to extend their range. With tankers its much easier.

That is not to say the Chinese wouldn't be a tough nut to crack, but these islands are just speedbumps. That is by design.
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>>3473177
>You can sail on the opposite side of Taiwan and do everything you would be doing.
Plus putting any ground based air defenses present on Taiwan between the angry PRC with their missiles, and your big expensive boats.
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>>3473325
>the Italians brought in their F-35s for the first time and were RAVING about its performance in SEAD.
Finally some good news about that absurdly expensive plane.
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>>3473439
Literally every plane ever has run late and over budget.
The F-35 is actually a MONSTER of a plane, and once production ramps up, sufficient unit production will help ameliorate the development costs. It's not the Raptor, but it IS a beast in its own right.
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>>3473439

Honestly, the biggest problem I have with the F-35B and F-35C is the fact that unless you have specially designed pod, you don't have a gun and given the prevalence of stealth aircraft in Strikers-verse like the Fandance, as well as mentioned in Spec Ops Witches 2016, the Su-47 Frikin and MiG-1.44 Flatpack (in thread its called the MiG-35 Flatpack) along with how common WWI-Style Furballs were during WWIII, I would want to have a gun.

In light of this fact while its not definitive it is somewhat plausible that the F-35 series in the Strikers-verse is somewhat different then how we know the F-35 series OTL. Overall shape as well as the engine is the same but the dimensions for the F-35A and F-35C is likely different from OTL: 55 to 57-feet long (bigger than the Falcon but smaller than the Hornet) while due to the fact that the F-35B is a STOVL aircraft and thus needs to be lighter, its likely still 50-feet long (thus earning it the nickname the snub-nosed Lightning II). The wingspan for the F-35A is brought up to 43-feet, same as the F-35C which gives the fighter a larger wing area and would improve performance. Although the F-35B again since its a STOVL fighter has 35-foot wingspans which still gives it more wing area than the Harrier II so it would still have a performance increase over the Harrier II.

However this longer length for the F-35C means a very important fact, you can now squeeze in an internal gun, which even if its just an ADEN Cannon re-chambered for 25x137mm, you still have an internal gun, the F-35B is still stuck with an external gun-pod, but eh, the Harrier Jump Jet has an external gun-pod containing an ADEN 30 so no changes there, though instead of a GAU-22 it might have an ADEN instead, because the ADEN is lighter and smaller than the GAU-22 so it won't hamper performance as much.

One last interesting fact OTL, the USAF pilots gave the F-35A the nickname Panther, Marine pilots recently gave the F-35B the nickname Velociraptor, while Navy pilots call F-35Cs Raven. Links below:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a20789594/the-f-35s-new-much-better-nickname-is-panther/

https://www.reddit.com/r/F35Lightning/comments/5rxpgy/any_nicknames_yet/

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/marines-love-f-35-so-much-they-gave-it-nickname-velociraptor-35602
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>>3473462
>the USAF pilots gave the F-35A the nickname Panther, Marine pilots recently gave the F-35B the nickname Velociraptor, while Navy pilots call F-35Cs Raven
Yeah, because "Lightning II" is a shit name. It's like how the F-16 is the Viper, because Fighting Falcon is a shit name.
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>>3473462
PLANES DO NOT NEED A GUN YOU FUCKING RETARD

God, I hope this Sprey-tier “Hurr durr, MUH VIETNAM GUNS” meme dies soon. It’s starting to get on my nerves
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>>3473541
Exactly, we don't need a gun.

We need a PLSL.
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>>3473551
No, fuck off
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>>3473443
This doesn't help my dumbfuck government who probably signed for the first batch of planes, and amount of money that can only go up, not down.
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>>3473511
The the pilots loved the original Battlestar Galactica ...
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>>3473325
The point is very well taken. That said, the SSM tech has improved significantly since the 80s too. Assuming they stay anywhere close to even with each other you still have a numbers problem because an island (or land in general) can always carry more missiles than a ship can.

I agree that we’ll get by the islands, the question is whether we want Morgan to be the one running the missions to bust them or be waiting until they’re gone to get to play ...
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>>3473541
If you have space on the airframe to install a gun, why wouldn’t you? Maybe you won’t use it every mission, but it’s better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Besides, WWIII proved that dogfighting is not dead, so it makes sense that pilots and aircraft designers would value having a gun.
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>>3473605
>why wouldn’t you?
Because it’s added weight and space.
>Maybe you won’t use it every mission, but it’s better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it
That’s a stupid argument, because it can be used to justify literally anything
>>do we really need a scramjet on our light fighter?
“BeTtEr To HaVe It AnD nOt NeEd It”
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>>3473605

Indeed, in the Strikers-verse further reinforced the argument that dogfighting isn't dead, the last time we assumed that Dogfighting wasn't dead, it got both the USAF and USN kicked in the balls over Vietnam, Top Gun came about BECAUSE of Vietnam. Plus missiles have this thing called minimum safe distance, if you are closer than that threshold and you fire a missile, you'll destroy your target and shoot yourself down because of shrapnel. A gun doesn't have that issue.
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>>3473610
>Because it’s added weight and space.
An M61 cannon is less than 1% the weight of an F-15. The weight is negligible.
>That’s a stupid argument, because it can be used to justify literally anything
Except planes regularly close to dogfighting range in this universe. Both our witch kills so far have been with the gun. It's not unreasonable to design your planes for a dogfight.
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>>3473657
Except I’m not talking about in universe. I’m talking about in reality. And in reality, a gun is basically pointless on a fighter. Yet for some reason, retards cling to the belief that every fighter forever and ever HAS to have a gun, simply because a combination of factors cause the Phantom to have a less than fantastic record in a war forty years ago.
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>>3473677
If the gun is easily "demontaged" we can fly the next mission without a gun. That would resolve the argument, maybe.
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>>3473687
Again
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE QUEST
I am talking about reality. I.e. the real world. I.e, the one without sparkly bullshit
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>>3473677
Then why were you replying to a post specifically talking about "in-universe" F-35's?
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>>3473677

The prevelance of stealth and the fact that you might not see your opponent until you get into visual range, combined with the fact that missiles have a minimum safe distance and that if your inside that minimum safe distance when you fire a missile and it hits its target you'll eat shrapnel from either the enemy plane or your own missile which could frag your plane. This minimum safe distance issue is part of the reason why the F-4E Phantom was armed with a Vulcan Cannon, you also only carry a limited number of missiles, once your out and its a within-visual range fight and both you and the enemy is out of missiles yet you don't have a gun but the other guy does, then he's going to continue to engage going for a gun kill while you won't be able to do jackshit about it except disengage.

Plus having a gun adds more flexibility for ground-strikes, sure bombs or rockets might be more effective in terms of dealing damage to the enemy, but putting a burst into an enemy target with a gun could not only remove bad guys from the fight but also hearing the sound of that gun, which is like a great big zipper or a buzz saw going off, along with suddenly a hundred rounds impacting near your position means that it would have a psychological impact on your opponent.
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>>3473702
I wasn’t. I was specifically addressing
>the biggest problem I have with the F-35B and F-35C is the fact that unless you have specially designed pod, you don't have a gun
Which was in direct response to the discussion of F-35’s in OTL
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>>3473704
>This minimum safe distance issue is part of the reason why the F-4E Phantom was armed with a Vulcan Cannon
Which is irrelevant when you can ACTUALLY USE MISSILES AT THE RANGES INTENDED. Because warplanners in Vietnam were stupid about RoE
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>>3473704
>means that it would have a psychological impact on your opponent.
Seeing a part of the area explode into a firestorm and not knowing what part is next has a psychological impact too, or not ?
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>>3473723
Shh, quiet. You’ll upset the Warthog-fags
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>>3473203
I’m really not sure what you’re basing this off of.
>>3473118
So you think there is ever a time where a navy liaison is going to tell a joint commander that the reason why we lost a team of finite operators on insertion or extraction in a fight against a near-peer foe is because the navy didn’t feel like sticking their necks out because of a price tag? Goat herder combat doctrine is very different than near-peer doctrine. These aren’t opinions.
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>>3474212
If the mission is protecting those operators then it's not mission accomplished until they're fucking safe dickhead. The only reason Morgan hasn't been ripping shit up is because these missions have all given us an objective to accomplish that is fuck easy. The mission was "Blow up the radar" not "Blow up the radar and shred their top cover" so Morgan didn't bother. Same with the airfield. Protect the tranport, the transport is fucking fine. Nothing Morgan has done shows any sign of backing down, we just don't go fucking psycho like Frank did a couple times.

So "Mission accomplished" is a perfectly fine operating parameter.
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>>3474230

I think a better term instead of "Mission Accomplished" would be "Everything by the numbers."
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>>3474230
Does the brass just want Morgan to be Frank 2.0 and nothing more ? Maybe we'll have to ask Merlin.
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>>3473541
>PLANES DO NOT NEED A GUN YOU FUCKING RETARD
>God, I hope this Sprey-tier “Hurr durr, MUH VIETNAM GUNS” meme dies soon. It’s starting to get on my nerves

Vietnam and the SNAFU with the F-4 would like a word with your idiocy. Missiles can be spoofed, they can miss and they can fail to arm and dozens of other issues, even in the modern era, so having a back up weapon is never a bad thing. But you wouldn't know that because I doubt you know anything about anything that you haven't heard from shitposting on /k/.
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>>3474230
I guess some people aren’t going to get the George Bush reference. Though this needlessly hostile mentality in blaming the brass is part of the problem that I was referring to earlier.
>>3474301
Exactly. Sometimes doing things just by the numbers ends up producing a less than adequate result. Intel isn’t perfect and objectives are based off of intel. A good operator will adapt and overcome any additional obstacles or objectives that present themselves. This is the absolute standard. I fail to see why a pilot... with a higher pay grade... would be allowed to scrape by with the minimum and still be allowed to work with groups that expect and demand excellence.
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>>3474364

Regardless, being a scalpel instead of a sledgehammer might be part of the reason why SOCOM is interested in us.
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>>3474301
>>3474364
Everything by the numbers is what the military loves, when it is possible. SOCOM would love a mission to go by the numbers. The fact that this rarely happens isn't a reason to not practice like it should.

Improvise, adapt and overcome is great and all but there's not been anything for Morgan to adapt too, except the witch box which we blew through hard enough that a veteran witch was calling bullshit on us being a rookie. By the numbers for that was to go defensive and seek a disengage somehow, which we absolutely did not do.

That fact that we aren't absolutely slaughtering everything in the sky isn't an issue, we've been told repeatedly this selection process is supposed to bust down cocky veterans that think the Wyvern makes them invincible. Frank didn't start out the Butcher, neither should Morgan.

>>3474314
Dunno, we'll have to see.

>>3474212
Also this? Yes. There's a point where the Navy gets to tell SOCOM to fuck off because it'll cost them too many men and air frames to do what they're asking for. Is that point far out there? Yes. Is it there? Also yes.
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>>3474416
Eh, they should be looking for a sledgehammer that can do scalpel work. Why settle for less? Based on what we’ve done so far, I genuinely don’t see why we would stick out beyond our name.
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>>3474429
We’ve accomplished three missions by ourselves against significant opposition. The US hasn’t routinely sent pilots in solo on anything but strategic bomber missions in half a century, yet we’re pulling it off. Imagine having to dedicate a whole fighter squadron to protect one radar site and losing the site anyway. That’s a huge combat multiplier.
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>>3474437
>In any other situation, especially considering how green you are, that’d be an excellent showing.
>In a wyvern, however, that’s considered a barely passable score. That still puts you in the top half of the first timers, including guys transitioning over from tomcats or hornets.

From our first mission debrief. Simply “going by the numbers”, we aren’t bad, but we certainly aren’t the best. Our second flight was a bust for technical reasons. Our third flight wasn’t optimal because we opted to ignore the recommendations of our arguably more experienced crew, who had went ahead planning without us just because we didn’t head over to the flightline right away (which is fine, just noting why they were prompted to recommend in the first place). We opted to carry bombs instead of more fuel and then we had issues with low fuel. Based on what I’ve read in this thread, that seems to be due to some aversion to the fact that we already have like four fuck-off cannons. I’m fairly neutral on them btw, but it was clearly a bad idea to bring more toys than we needed.

My point is that we aren’t pushing it enough. Which is weird when the character has a backstory indicating that he has a tendency to push things to the limit. I think the most interesting vote of the last flight was the one that lead to us taking out one of the witches. We aren’t like our father, we are something different, but perhaps something more.
>>3474314
I suppose the mentality I’m trying to go with here is to be nothing LESS than Frank 2.0. We won’t know until we push our limits.
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These are the bits from last flight that I’m referencing:

>They’re playing games- looking for what dad was. You’re not him- he and maman made sure you’re far scarier a beast altogether.

>You know what this is, of course. Same thing, you suspect, all of your workup cycles are going to be. They’re playing games, pushing you. The know your profile- you’re competitive and hate losing, and they’re looking for that spark of what dad was- that hair on fire wildman, the warhound that can’t be killed.

> You’re not him, of course. Maman made sure of that.

>Dad fought like a wild animal- fangs out and making his aircraft do things it really had no right to do. Something of that’s in you too of course- but you didn’t grow up being raised by a pair of veterans of the southeast Asian conflict, you grew up being raised by the mother of night. You learned very quickly that wild passion and fury worked- but only if you knew when and how to channel it. Maman made you learn. Out of fear, maybe, but she made you learn.
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>>3474325
The failure of pilots in Vietnam was not due to the gun or lack thereof. It was pilot training. The USAF especially failed to correctly train their pilots, so most of the missile shots they did make were out of envelope, and so obviously missed. The problem was all around SAC's complete dominance of the USAF's higher ranks and thus everything to do with running it. SAC commanders didn't realize that "Universal Pilots" who could fly anything from a a four engine transport to a single engine fighter were not a good idea. Remember, the USN retained a higher kill/loss ratio than the USAF throughout the entire war. Even when the USN was unsatisfied with its performance, it sought a training solution. The F-4J retained a significantly higher kill/loss ratio than the F-4E, despite the E possessing an internal gun while the J did not.
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>>3474682
Yeah, training was all sorts of fucked and combined with the ROE of missile engagements meaning most shots would miss or not lock at all meant it was a clusterfuck. Having a gun or not didn't really have an impact.
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>>3474682

To be fair, the USN did the training thing at the urge of the F-8 Crusader pilots, which were gun-armed aircraft.
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>>3474725
Which is in part why the USN did better than the USAF. They still had institutional knowledge of how to dogfight. Maybe not in all of their fighter communities, but in some of them.
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>>3474730

Exactly, one thing I am thinking about is how lethal the Fandance may have become since we last saw them in action, they might have four Gsh-30-2s, if they do then that thing will shred us.

I am also working on an official spin-off but I am getting disheartened by the lack of people being interested.
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>>3474774
>they might have four Gsh-30-2s
But isn't that 8 of them? Hyuck hyuck.
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>>3474869

Yeah, eight 30mm cannons. Guess we should be thankful it doesn't have a pair of Gsh-6-23s which would have a combined rate of fire of 20,000-rounds per minute.
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>>3474984
8 Barrels, only 4 cannons.

Yes there is a difference.

Also they would be pretty much useless after the first microsecond of a burst because the burst mass will throw the plane off target with its recoil. (that's why 630's and 23-6's are RoF limited to specific length duration bursts)
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>>3475122

True, very true. Still given how lightweight the Gsh-30-2 is, who knows how many guns they could fit in the Fandance
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>>3475122
One reason the A-10 is such a stable platform is it is 1) heavy (the bathtub is directly above the gun) and 2) the gun is on the centerline. If the plane isn’t built around the gun(s) then you are very limited by size and capacity to avoid major performance issues.
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>>3475122
Adding extra guns is a bad idea, they take up way too much internal space and vibration issues from having so many guns with such a high ROF firing at the same time would be hell on the airframe. And even the vibration issue gets solved, the internal space taken up by the ammunition stowage bins is gonna be an issue.
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>>3475626

The Wyvern has four GAU-22s, a four-barreled 25mm rotary gun. But your right, recoil could be a problem, then again Russia prefers autocannons over rotary cannons.
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>>3475643
>The Wyvern has four GAU-22s
W H Y? The sheer vibration stress from firing all those guns would play merry-hell on the sensitive electronics and could cause fuselage cracks if we routinely use all of them at once (and we will once we go to war). Just half of our guns put us in the same ROF league as the GSh-6-30, and that caused fatigue cracks and electronics damage to the aircraft it was mounted on, granted it was on a MiG-27 but that doesn't mean we won't encounter a similar issue with double the ROF. Back in '89 we only had 2 guns and did well, and we're never going to load more than 2 types of ammo, so the ammo-type issue is right-out. The space for half of those guns could be re-used for electronic systems or increased fuel storage and we would be far more useful.
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>>3475689
>W H Y?
Because nobody has done the world a favor and murdered Pierre Sprey, yet.
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>>3475689

Honestly I have no clue either, because that's absurd overkill. It could be that they found room for two additional guns by deleting two bins and going to a mixed belt like on the A-10 Thunderbolt II. As for how they handle the recoil force, Sparkly Magic Bullshit maybe?
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>>3475689
>W H Y?
Kills witches really good.
>The sheer vibration stress from firing all those guns would play merry-hell on the sensitive electronics and could cause fuselage cracks if we routinely use all of them at once (and we will once we go to war)
I imagine in a billion dollar fighter they have already figured out how to mitigate it.
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>>3475689
>>3475700
Or to be fair they likely aren't always all fired at once except for targets with shields
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>>3475700
Out of curiosity what are other things that cause vibration stress ?
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>>3475753
That's not how guns on planes are designed or work.
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>>3475763

Steam Catapult Launches, hell the amount of power in those things is insane, to the point that a "Hot" launch, where the catapult has literally too much steam pressure, it'll rip the nose gear right out of the plane. For witches those are probably called SAFPs or Steam-Assisted FacePlants
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>>3475753
We still slaughtered witches with only 2 guns back in '89. Remember how merlin used magic to enhance the 20mms to hit like small tank cannons? Having 4 guns, all enhanced to do the same really shouldn't be needed to shred shields.

>>3475699
Putting the guns where the bins were wouldn't work, the bins are usually buried deep inside the fuselage of the aircraft carrying it. See how the F-15, F-16 and F-22 have their ammo-bins deep inside the fuselage. I suppose that magic could be a fix for the vibration issues, but still. Hopefully we get the option to modify our aircraft once the war begins. We can remove the extra guns and get something else. It should be an easy fix for Merlin, and we might be able to retain the magic ammo storage bays for the remaining guns.

>>3475763
Airframe buffeting can cause vibration issues, which is something the Wyvern is going to have issues with due to it's forward-swept swing-wings. High-G forces can also cause vibrations, but aircraft have been dealing with those for ages, so that's no big issue.
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>>3475770
Then I refer to my original comment, it's a billion fighter they've probably mitigated it.
>>3475778
>We still slaughtered witches with only 2 guns back in '89.
It still took time to chew through shields, compared to now were it's been barely worth the comment.
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>>3475772
My guess would be electromagnetic catapults were a thing earlier in ‘verse due to the ability to more precisely adjust launch thrust.
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>>3475816
The AI could probably compensate in some way. It would have to anyway when the wings and tail transition between high and low speed flight.
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>>3476118

Doubtful, have you seen the articles on how fincky the Electromagnetic Catapults are proving to be?
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>>3476133
I hadn’t looked at the issue since they’d been approved for the Fords ... not surprised to see bugs to work out through ... it’s a completely new technology compared to what we’d been using.
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For those that are interested, I am running a spin-off thread to Strikers 2016 with Ghost Division's blessing, revolving around Goose as the MC.

It should be noted that she still acts like a kid at times, but given her line of work....
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Haha, only a half hour later than I'd hoped to start!

So, news. Nothing I haven't already said a few times, so nothing that bears repeating, I think!

And with that out of the way, let's get the party started!

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The morning seemed to crawl by, especially after Merlin managed to foist a can of that green monster shit on you. You regret it- you always do- but she swears by them and downs upwards of six cans a day. While you’re pretty sure that’s far, far too many, she defends it as magic needs the specific blend of whatever is actually in the stuff- and her last medical check-up put her in marginally better shape than you. At least, according to her, though she could be telling a modified truth- she did blush while saying it.

You spent the first part of the morning in the base hospital. Nothing critical or even worrisome- just a check-up, looking at your implant sites and your general health. “Infuriatingly healthy” was the doc’s verdict, with any lingering traces of complications during your plug implant surgery already clearing up nicely. You’ll still be on antibiotics, at least for a little while longer, but that’s standard for the program- your witch will be on them once she has her own surgery.

The next part of the morning had been catching up on the world. China’s making noise about Taiwan, again- of course, they’re also making claims on the whole of the south china sea, and basically every Japanese island possession south of Kyushu. For the most part, the Japanese are treating it as borderline normal- these kinds of claims from Beijing have been going on since the turn of the millennium- along with threats and ‘strongly worded warnings’ to the south Koreans about ‘economic violations’ of ‘sovereign Chinese waters’. No one stateside seems to know what, if anything, the US is planning to do in case of aggression- there’s another CVBG in the western pacific, making three total, along with another on semi-permanent station in the Arabian sea. Another border flare-up is going on between India and Pakistan, but most everyone thinks it’s going to deescalate, as it usually does. Neither side there seems to want a war.

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When you finally got to the briefing room, it wasn’t empty- Colonel Jackson was in there with a young marine, the gold wings on his uniform marking him as an aviator. He’s got the look you’ve come to associate with Marines- intense, for lack of a better term, like a high-tension spring under pressure.

“Lieutenant.” The colonel says, nodding towards you. “You can take a seat if you’re so inclined, Lieutenant Sorensen was just getting the usual chat for incoming Wyvern drivers. Sorensen, you can leave. Go see the doc, your driver already knows where you’re going, and, we’ll see you in the morning for initial selection.”

The marine Lieutenant nods, looking at you with bright, piercing eyes- he doesn’t look impressed, but then again, you’re not impressed either. He holds himself like a man with something to prove against the world- someone more impulsive than you were ever allowed to be. He leaves without a word, and the colonel watches him go without comment.

“Your other half for this flight should be here momentarily.” He says, checking his watch. “Apparently mis- er, sorry. Admiral Wells wanted to talk with her some.” He shrugs. “You looking forward to getting done, here, Lieutenant?”

[] Yes, sir. Anxious to get to the real training.
[] Wish I could have gotten a couple more flights, to be honest, sir.
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>>3476517
>[x] Yes, sir. Anxious to get to the real training.
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>>3476517
>[X] Yes, sir. Anxious to get to the real training.
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>>3476517
>[x] Wish I could have gotten a couple more flights, to be honest, sir.
We don't like rushing around.
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>>3476517
>[x] Yes, sir. Anxious to get to the real training.
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>>3476517
>[x] Yes, sir. Anxious to get to the real training.

Good evening, Chief! Glad I could make it tonight.
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>>3476517
>Yes, sir. Anxious to get to the real training.
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>>3476517
>
[] Yes, sir. Anxious to get to the real training.
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>>3476517
>[] Yes, sir. Anxious to get to the real training.
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>>3476517
>[x] Yes, sir. Anxious to get to the real training.
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>>3476517
>[x] Wish I could have gotten a couple more flights, to be honest, sir.

I'm not, but I think Morgan would want more time.
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Ok, votes called!
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>>3476517
>[] Yes, sir. Anxious to get to the real training.
>[] Wish I could have gotten a couple more flights, to be honest, sir.
I know the vote is over but I think what Morgan would be feeling is a bit of both. On the one hand, having less than one day to meet and decide on a partner you're going to be married to for decades is all a bit of a rush. On the other hand he is no doubt anxious to get on with the *real* training because he knows that these missions are designed to toy with him in various ways, both as a reminder that Wyverns aren't invincible and a confidence booster for the witches to remind them that Wyverns aren't invincible.

Of course, he would never admit that to the Colonel's face, and we kind of turned their plans upside down by giving the witches a good spanking.
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[x] Yes, sir. Anxious to get to the real training.

You nod. “Yes, sir.” You respond. “Anxious to get to the real training.”

He nods with a very slight smile. “Yeah, that seems to be pretty common at this stage of things. Enough flights trying to sell you on a witch, time to get to your deck tour. Just be glad they don’t have the yearlong workup we used to have.”

You blink at that, and he chuckles. “Yeah, you heard right. That was before Sam Wells let the Jets think too, though. These days those things pump so much information into your brain the workup time seems like a damn joke. We can train you faster than we can get conventional pilots out of training and into the fleet.” He shakes his head. “If it weren’t so damn expensive all we’d have is drakes, but that ain’t gonna happen. Hell they only just started putting those damned AIs into warships.”

You nod- Merlin had, rather predictably, been involved with that, too. The first Burkes to come out of the yard with an AI had been back around ‘03, but since then they’ve been standard in all new navy warships. The interface is much more standard- they don’t require MIU plugs, and a ship can power them without having to draw on a witch- but the function is effectively the same.

“I know the whole setup stinks, though. One day to meet a person we’re asking you to join at the brain with? Fucked up.” He says with a shake of his head. “Used to be, we’d get guys that would back out at this point when it started to sink in. Not many of them, but there’s still a couple in the fleet, tomcat or lightning drivers with deactivated brain-jacks. We try to really minimize that shit these days, too expensive to let happen.”

You nod.

“So have you given selection any thought?” He asks. “Don’t tell me if you’ve already made up your mind, but you damned well better not have if you’re going to take this flight. Sorensen can’t start through till you’re done, at least with this phase.”

[] I’ve given it thought, yessir, but I don’t have any firm decision.
[] If I have made a decision, what do I need to do?
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>>3476611
>[x] I’ve given it thought, yessir, but I don’t have any firm decision.
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>>3476611
>[x] I’ve given it thought, yessir, but I don’t have any firm decision.

Stupid to back out now.
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>>3476611
>[] I’ve given it thought, yessir, but I don’t have any firm decision.

I wonder what real training would be.
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>>3476611
[] I’ve given it thought, yessir, but I don’t have any firm decision.
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>>3476611
>[x] I’ve given it thought, yessir, but I don’t have any firm decision.
Either Danielle or Kyou at this rate. Lotus is a long shot and I don't think we'll get a flight with either Young or Wendy. Which must hurt the britbongs in the thread.
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>>3476611
>[X] I’ve given it thought, yessir, but I don’t have any firm decision.
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>>3476611
>[x] I’ve given it thought, yessir, but I don’t have any firm decision.
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>>3476611
>[x] I’ve given it thought, yessir, but I don’t have any firm decision.
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>>3476611
>[x] I’ve given it thought, yessir, but I don’t have any firm decision.
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Ok, votes closed!
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[x] I’ve given it thought, yessir, but I don’t have any firm decision.

“I’ve given it thought, yessir, but I don’t have a firm decision.” You respond.

He nods, looking over at the door as it opens and Danielle steps in. “Take a seat, Lieutenant commander, and we’ll get going.” He says, interrupting the conversation easily. She nods, taking the seat next to yours and pulling out her notepad- you do the same after a second while the projector warms up.

“This is your fourth and final hop, and you’re headed back into the NTTR for it.” The colonel says, as the display projector heats up. “It’s going to be largely the same as your first. Your objective is to punch a hole in a simulated Anti-access/Area Denial defense network in such a way that a simulated follow-on force of strike aircraft and witches could enter through the gap and hit targets on the far side. You’ll have time to plan your route and load. As usual, the air force will be providing air cover, mixed bag witches and fighters again. They will have AWACS, you won’t.”

“How wide do we need to make the hole?” Danielle asks- she almost sounds like she wants to add a joke to it, but stops herself.

“Because of the way the targets will be arranged, we want at least two complexes offline.” He responds, pulling up a map. All the target points are arranged in clusters, with between ten and sixty miles separating them. “Ideally, we want a gap at least fifty miles wide in their coverage network. Ideally you’d also be able to destroy or disable their AWACS and disrupt their command and control network.”

She nods, looking over at you for a second before looking back at the screen.

“This one is a bit different in that your primary goal is to open a hole in a simulated air defense network comprehensively enough to allow follow-on strikes to get through without being engaged by air or land based systems. Any questions?”

“No, sir.” Danielle says.

“Lieutenant?”

[] No, sir.
[] Yes, sir. (Write in!)
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>>3476710
>[x] No, sir.
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>>3476710
>[] Yes, sir. (Write in!)

Any S-400s we should know about?
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>>3476710
>[x] No, sir.
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>>3476710
>[X] No, sir.
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>>3476710
>[] No, sir.
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>>3476710
>[x] No, sir.
Destroy everything, got it.
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>>3476710
>[x] Yes, sir.
>Is there a significant presence of RedAir that we should be aware of?
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>>3476710
And the F-19 mission arrives. Get in clean. Kill the radars and the AWACS. Get out clean. Watch the fireworks. I’m in.
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>>3476710
>[] No, sir.
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Ok, votes called!
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>>3476710
>[x] Yes, sir. (Write in!)
How long do we have hold the breach against enemy attack?
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[x] No, sir.

“No, sir.” You respond.

He nods. “Good. Go get your route and package planned out, submit it to ops when you head down. Dismissed.”

You stand at the same time as Danielle, and follow her out of the door. “Hoo boy.” She says, once you’ve shut it behind you and are in the corridor. “Round two, huh?”

You nod. “Should be interesting.”

“Interesting he says.” She responds. “Money down this simulated network looks a lot like those islands the Chinese are building. Wanna bet on it?”

You shake your head- it’s a sucker bet, and you’d guessed as much already yourself.

“Still, that place is gonna be locked down tighter than a virgin.” She says, and you can see the gears in her head already turning. “I doubt the air force is gonna use Chinese tactics, either. Their doctrine right now is to let their long range SAMs engage before their fighters and witches.... huh.” She trails off as you head for the one ‘open’ office- the one specifically set aside for wyvern training crews to do this kind of thing in. She closes the door behind you as you both enter and takes a seat at one of the two computers there, logging in to the machine as you take the seat next to her.

“Just like I thought. Look here. Simulated airfield, Simulated airfield. HQ-9 site, HQ-9 site, HQ-22, damn.” She whistles. “This is worse than they had in Iraq, and that had damn near everything made from nineteen forty up till two thousand.”

You nod, looking at the same map. “There’s a point there though. we knock out these three-” You point to three closely packed sites “And we’ve opened up a pretty big gap for low-level flight to get through.”

She nods. “Yeah, but if we tack on this one out here, there’s a total coverage gap sixty miles wide between here and here.” She says. “Even with that airfield being untouched that’s probably more than enough. A real-world opponent would have to pull in fighters if they wanted to contest the airspace and they can’t do it before the follow-on hits.”

“How long would that be?” You ask, and she shrugs.

“Sometimes they like to blow through just after you hit the radar sites, sometimes they’re hours back and don’t launch till you’ve sent a clear signal.” She says. “Depends on the mission. If this was real-world, I’d think they’d be right behind us. Couple minutes, maybe ten, tops.”

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“So we probably don’t need to sit on it very long.” You say, and she shakes her head.

“I don’t think so. They’d have said something if we were supposed to hold on to it, and that’s not really SEAD’s job anyway. We open a hole and they ram it in.” She frowns. “But a wyvern could hold a gap open for a while.” She says, thinking, then shrugs. “Still, I think we ought to hit these four targets and scoot. Load of AGM-88s and some clusters in the other for dealing with the SAM sites themselves, short range missiles in the nacelles for the fighters.”

“Means the fighters could tie us up.” you point out. “And we’re supposed to nail their AWACS too.”

She nods. “Yeah, but how hard will that be? We can run them down in war emergency if we have to, and it’s not like a seven sixty seven can dodge a heater. And either way, we’re going to need to hit all four targets if you want to open up a true air corridor.”

[] She’s got good points and knows what she’s doing - take her load and target list.
[] She’s got a good point on the targets, but you’d rather take AMRAAMs to handle the fighters farther out- you can use guns on blind missile sites if you have to.

[] She's got a point with the load, but the target list is stretching- we’ll go for the three closer-packed targets and open the limited corridor.
[] If we take only the three close targets and also pack AMRAAMs we can have our simulated follow on forces punching through in less than ten minutes- a real world foe wouldn’t have time to respond, right?
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>>3476824
>[x] She’s got a good point on the targets, but you’d rather take AMRAAMs to handle the fighters farther out- you can use guns on blind missile sites if you have to.
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>>3476824
>[] She’s got good points and knows what she’s doing - take her load and target list.
This is where we fucked up last time, not listening to the specialist who knows what she's doing.
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>>3476824
>[] She’s got a good point on the targets, but you’d rather take AMRAAMs to handle the fighters farther out- you can use guns on blind missile sites if you have to.

I feel this is the best option, I want to have some BVR too, it would help kill the AWACS bird too.
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>>3476824
>[] She’s got good points and knows what she’s doing - take her load and target list.
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>>3476824
>[x] She’s got good points and knows what she’s doing - take her load and target list.
While I'm not super comfortable with this option I think it's the best one we've got. When in doubt, trust the specialist.
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>>3476837

I'd rather have some AMRAAMs because I am getting sick and tired of being stuck in Visual-Range only engagements, honestly it wouldn't be so bad if the Agile or Sidewinder was like the OTL Python 5.
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>>3476824
>[x] She’s got good points and knows what she’s doing - take her load and target list.
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>>3476824
>[x] She’s got good points and knows what she’s doing - take her load and target list.

We're here to test the witch, let's test the witch.
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>>3476824
>[X] She’s got good points and knows what she’s doing - take her load and target list.
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>>3476824
>[X] She’s got a good point on the targets, but you’d rather take AMRAAMs to handle the fighters farther out- you can use guns on blind missile sites if you have to.

Quick blitz of the radar sites to blind the SAM's, AMRAAM's to neutralize the fighters that respond and WEP to the AWACs for a heater kill.

We can mop up or bug out at our leisure once they're blinded.
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>>3476824
>[X] She’s got good points and knows what she’s doing - take her load and target list.

Sneak in, pop the SAMs, chase down the AWACs, then tie up the fighters, if I read that right. Sounds like fun!
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Ok, votes called!
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>>3476824
>[] She’s got a good point on the targets, but you’d rather take AMRAAMs to handle the fighters farther out- you can use guns on blind missile sites if you have to.

She’s The SEAD witch. We’re the air to air expert. Combine and profit.

Loving this profile. Danielle ought to show well and we can have a proper comparison. And it’s the ChiCom islands so this gives us an idea of our real capabilities. Unless Ghost sends us to Europe again...
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>>3476903
missed the vote, bud.
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>>3476907
I’m in the Colorado mountains—sometimes I’m ten minutes behind and don’t even know until my phone catches up ... price I pay for a nice view.
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[x] She’s got good points and knows what she’s doing - take her load and target list.

You think about it for a minute, then nod. “We’ll play it your way.” You say, and she nods.

“Ok. So we’re done with the target list and loading. I’ll get this submitted and we can get weather and flight information.” She says, typing rapidly. “And there.” She says. “Sent.”

You nod. “Off to life support?”

“Yeah.” She pauses. “So, level with me, el-tee. This flight, are we both just wasting our time?”

You pause. “What do you mean?”

“Look, I want the wyvern.” She says, then pauses. “At least, I did. I still do, too, I think. But you know Miss Wells has been talking to me.”

You nod- she probably knows full well that Merlin does tell you what’s going on.

“Look, I’m not going to say no, but believe me when I say it’s not gonna hurt my feelings if you pick someone else, here, either.”

“So you’re having second thoughts.” You say, flatly.

She shakes her head. “No, but I’m saying if your only reason for doing this is for my sake, we both know that it’s really not necessary. Either you want to fly with me in the plane, or I disappear into Merlin’s dungeon.” She shrugs. “Either’s fine with me. No one has gotten to work this close with her before other than your dad, and that’s twenty years ago.”

“So what do you think?”

She sighs. “Look, if you’re doing it for your sake, to help decide, that’s fine. I’m not gonna halfass this, because I want to work with miss Wells. I’d have canned the flight myself otherwise. But if you’re doing it for my sake or someone you think is watching..” She shrugs. “Waste of time.”

[] It’s for my sake. Let’s go do this.
[] If you’re sure, we can can it, then. I have what I need to make a decision.
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>>3476916
>[x] It’s for my sake. Let’s go do this.

We botched the mission. We can do better.
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>>3476916
>[x] It’s for my sake. Let’s go do this.
I want to see how her ability holds up in a dogfight.
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>>3476916
>[] It’s for my sake. Let’s go do this.
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>>3476916
>[] It’s for OUR sake. Let’s go do this
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>>3476916
>[x] It’s for my sake. Let’s go do this.
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>>3476916
>[] It’s for my sake. Let’s go do this.
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>>3476922
>>[] It’s for OUR sake. Let’s go do this

This, just so much this.
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>>3476916
Sooo many offramps for her. As far as this anon is concerned, I've made up my mind already, but I'm not gonna push the rest of you-all. I wouldn't mind seeing if there's anything more than the demonstrated radar-deleteing she does, but...
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>>3476916
>[x] It’s for my sake. Let’s go do this.
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>>3476922
>>3476916

Backing this
>[x] It’s for OUR sake. Let’s go do this
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>>3476916
>[x] It’s for my sake. Let’s go do this.
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>>3476931
I agree with there being so many outs. Why Ghost is giving us so many outs I can only guess ... but I’m pretty sold on this girl. She just offered to give up a shot at Wyvern flight status (a locked in status for her whole career if she got in) to go into a research position with no guarantees of anything.

General Grant met with General Meade after Vicksburg/Gettysburg fully intending to relieve Meade and replace him with a general of his own choosing. Meade preemptively offered to resign to make Grant’s life easier. Grant kept him. They won the war—even with Mead’s limitations.

Bottom line: I’ve got good vibes from this girl as a teammate, even with her limited capabilities.
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Ok, votes called!
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>>3476942
Makes sense.
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>>3476942
Ehhh. I've got good vibes from her as a Valkyrie wing mate, but I like Kyou better in the backseat.
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[x] It’s for my sake. Let’s go do this.

“It’s for my sake.” You respond. “Let’s go do this.”

She nods, then pauses. “Alright, but if this is for dumbshit reason like you wanting to max a score, I’m going to drop my candidacy. You tracking, Lieutenant?”

You nod, keeping your face impassive as she looks for signs that it is. Apparently satisfying herself it’s not, she pivots in place, leading the way out of the office and back into the corridor. “So there’s a marine wyvern spinning up.” She says, conversationally- with her warning out of the way, she’s back to chatting casually as you walk.

“Yeah.” You say. “Met the pilot just before the briefing.”

“Oh?” She asks. “How was he?”

“We didn’t talk.” You answer.

“And? You got an impression of him, right?”

You shrug.

[] He seemed too intense, like he’s gonna let aggression get the best of him in the air.
[] I can’t say, but he’s got to be good if he’s got plugs.
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Danielle is just way too tryhard. Let's get this over so we can get the good pick.
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>>3476971
>[x] I can’t say, but he’s got to be good if he’s got plugs.
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>>3476971
>[X] He seemed too intense, like he’s gonna let aggression get the best of him in the air.
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>>3476971
>[] I can’t say, but he’s got to be good if he’s got plugs.
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>>3476942
Also a thought, the outs might be because there were a bunch of folks complaining about this re-do flight being a waste of time.
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>>3476971
>[X] He seemed too intense, like he’s gonna let aggression get the best of him in the air.
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>>3476977
I’m struggling because I agree with you for the most part ... yet that honesty is getting me—kinda reminds me of Merlin’s personality with a hefty dose of self confidence instead of self-doubt (though I still sense some self-doubt for sure).
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>>3476961
I agree.
>>3476971
[] He seemed too intense, like he’s gonna let aggression get the best of him in the air.
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>>3476971
>[x] He seemed too intense, like he’s gonna let aggression get the best of him in the air.
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>>3476971
>[] I can’t say, but he’s got to be good if he’s got plugs. He seemed intense though, like he had something to prove.
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>>3476971
>[x] He seemed too intense, like he’s gonna let aggression get the best of him in the air.
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>>3476971
>[x] He seemed too intense.
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>>3476989
I agree. A little of a, a little of b.
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>>3476971
>[X] I can’t say, but he’s got to be good if he’s got plugs. He seemed intense though, like he had something to prove.

Like... PILOT
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>these filenames
Is Morgan a closet weeb?
Are we gonna have to worry about the squadron finding his stash of obscure OVAs?
>>3476971
[X] I can’t say, but he’s got to be good if he’s got plugs.
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>>3477010
What would his favorite anime be?
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>>3477010
>Is Morgan a closet weeb?
Another thing Merlin got him hooked on.
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>>3476986
But she's already gotten basically the dream gig from Merlin. Most witches would give their legs to be able to work directly with her, per word of God from the Trolling sibling info dump.

Plus Kyou is really powerful, and has a boat-load of spaghetti being hidden behind a mask made of MILITARY BEARING and HIME-SAMA. And if I remember correctly from one of the earlier threads, she's been seen multiple times at mecha conventions. Come on, what is not to love about that?
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>>3477020
Merlin's been a bad girl and needs to be punished.
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Ok, votes called!
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[x] He seemed too intense, like he’s gonna let aggression get the best of him in the air.

“He seemed too intense, like he’s gonna let aggression get the best of him in the air.” You say, reflecting on the marine.

Danielle laughs. “Ya know, they’re saying the opposite of you. or were, anyway.” She points out. “He’s too passive, too laid back. Too much quiet and laid back to ever make it as a real wyvern driver.”

“What changed their mind?” You ask. She shrugs.

“Who says it has?” She responds.

You blink at that.

“C’mon, let’s get moving.” She says, after a second. “Don’t take this the wrong way, but we need to get this done.”

You nod, following her down stairs and into the building’s basement, where the locker rooms sit. She changes almost as quickly as you do, emerging from her side of the hall at the same time as you do, though she’s pulling the material of her flightsuit a bit with a face. “I don’t wear thongs on ops.” She says, by way of explanation- which is clear enough to you, and you try not to laugh.

She sees it on your face and grins. “You can laugh, it’s fair. This thing is almost worse than being naked.” She sighs. “Makes me really wonder who designed them. After talking with her, there’s no way Merlin had a hand in these. She’d combust just thinking about it.”

You shrug. “I’m not really sure. I know that they’re an evolution of wartime designs.”

“Figures. Probably some jerk who didn’t see enough at his local titbar. Alright, let’s go.” She says, her slippers slapping against the laminate floor as she heads out of the building.

The pad is busy- the marine wyvern and yours are parked next to each other, though the marine corps jet sports the camouflage they adopted in southeast Asia, and have used on every aircraft since. It’s distinct, you admit, though you don’t see the point. It does stand out against your dark gray aircraft though.

1/2
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Merlin’s on the ground between the two jets next to the chief with a can of monster in her hand. She looks back as the crew van pulls up, smiling as you and Danielle emerge- she waves, though she doesn’t move from where she is. The chief says something and she answers, tilting her head in your direction.

Danielle grins. “You know, I’m kinda jealous you got to grow up around her.” She says. “I’d have liked to have an aunt like her. Not sure about the crush, but it is what it is. I’ll be in the office.” And she starts up the ladder.

Merlin and the chief head over as Danielle disappears over the edge of the cockpit, then reappears as she situates herself in her ejection seat, her head only just visible at this angle. “I-I was just leaving, Morgan.” Merlin says, getting a nod from you. “I-I’ll be in ops. John.” She says, and the chief nods, before turning to you as she walks past.

“You’re uploaded and ready to go.” He says. “I’ll be handing your bird off to your full time crew when you get back, you wanna be here for that or not?”

[] Wait, you’re not my full time crew?
[] Yes, absolutely.
[] No, I’ll meet them later.
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>>3477079
>[] Yes, absolutely.
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>>3477074
>[x] Yes, absolutely.
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>>3477079
>[X] Yes, absolutely.
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>>3477079
>[X] Yes, absolutely.
>[X] Wait, you’re not my full time crew?

Can we get both?
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>>3477079
>[X] Yes, absolutely.

Gotta get to know the guys who ACTUALLY own the bird
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>>3477079
>[x] Yes, absolutely.

Merlin is our full time crew. John's handing it to her.
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>>3477079
>[] Yes, absolutely.

Shit that reminds me, how long were we at WEP up in Alaska? We have got to let the Chief know about it.
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>>3477079
>[] Yes, absolutely.
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>>3477091
Flight Data Recorder probably let him know already.
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>>3477079
>[x] Yes, absolutely.

>Not sure about the crush
I mean...
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>>3477079
>[x] Yes, absolutely.
>>3477095
Perhaps ask how well it handled the stress or something
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>>3477095

Remember the first walkaround? We were told that if we use WEP for more than a couple of seconds we have to tell our Chief.
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>>3477106
Ah, thanks for the reminder. I did in fact forget that.
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>>3477106
Hey good point, I forgot about that as well
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>>3477079
>[x] Yes, absolutely.
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Ok, votes called! This will probably be the last for the night. I'm thinking of extending into saturday so we can get to the selection vote before the break, if that sounds like a good plan to you guys. I realize that's a fairly important vote, so I've got a pretty reasonable idea of how I want to do it and try and limit repeat votes and that kind of thing. Sound like a plan, or would you prefer that to have a full thread?
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>>3477122
Sounds good to me.
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>>3477122
Yeah I'm down for that.
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>>3477106
I figured that we told him or Chief Brown off screen when we got back.

>>3477122
Works for me
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>>3477122
I agree with this
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>>3477122
I'd say full thread just to let people mull over it some more. Though if we do run into the weekend, I'm probably gonna have to vote mobile. AIRSHOW DAY.
F for that N9M pilot
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>>3477079
>[x] Yes, absolutely.
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[x] Yes, absolutely.

You nod. “Yes, absolutely.” You say. “But I thought the admiral was taking over?”

“Figured you’d want to be. And kinda. She’s going to be very hands-on with your fighter, but she’s not going to be your chief. CPO Brown will be taking over as your Crew Chief full time. The admiral will be overseeing test and trial gear that’s going to be fitted, and helping where necessary. Let’s get walking, by the way. I’ve got another drake to start spinning up and I’d rather not be here all night.”

You nod, going through the walkaround. “We used WEP pretty heavily in Alaska.” You point out, looking up at the jet exhausts. the chief nods.

“Yeah, I saw on the flight data recorder. It’s fine, on a jet this new we probably don’t need to worry about it much. Still, glad you told us, even if it is a bit late to do anything.” he shakes his head. “No, that’s not right.” He says, correcting himself. “I’m glad you told us.”

You nod, finishing your walkaround and heading to the nose of the aircraft. “Your guns are loaded APEX only.” the Chief says. “In the fleet, that’s standard loading, if you want anything else, like tungsten or DU rounds, you need to tell the crews.”

You nod again.

“Also, you’re going to have to get with Merlin about your conformal kit and the pods. That shit’s all semi-modular, but reconfiguring the jet is a pain in the ass, so we try to leave it alone if it can be helped at all. She’s already making noise about your jet being down for a week after selection, so it’s a good time to get all that crap fitted while she’s making her changes.” He says, taking a position by the nose ladder as you start to climb up. “I’ll be on ground.”

And with that he walks off as you swing into the cockpit and flop into the ejection seat. It takes a second to pull your helmet out of your flight bag and get situated and strapped in- enough so that by the time you do and have the MUI linked, Danielle is waiting for you.

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You run through the remainder of the preflight checklist quickly, starting up both engines after a few minutes and unhooking from ground power and oxygen. The AI is still just a faint murmur in your head, though data- stuff you actually want- is already available as you start to look around. There’s a squadron of F-14s arriving from somewhere, you can see them stacked up to land, and after a second you know the exact squadron, heading, and load- they’re completely unarmed, without even ammunition for their gun. Strange, but not entirely unheard of, especially on a transit flight across the US. Further out, over the city, are a few helicopters, including an IJN transport, winging it’s way towards this base. Vaguely you wonder who’s onboard- and aren’t surprised when you find the information there. It’s Kyou, coming out as an observer for this flight.

Danielle directs you to follow the marshal to the taxiway, where the control tower takes over. They keep you held on the pad as the tomcats land in sequence, taking almost ten minutes to do so. “Runway two-four Romeo.” She directs eventually. “Proceed to runway and hold.”

You nod, taxiing forward and stopping at the end of the runway. You wait there a second before the tower- relayed through Danielle- gives you clearance to take off. You crack the throttles into afterburner, leaping off the tarmac after a short run- captive weapons don’t weigh quite the same, and even if they did, the wyvern has incredibly powerful engines, even when running purely conventional.

“Alright.” Danielle says, after confirming everything is green. “How do you want to do this? If we go in high, they’ll sure as hell see us, but it’ll let me take a look at what we’re dealing with. If we go in low, we might be able to hit them before they see us, but I’m going to have more trouble getting a picture of what all is out there.”

[] We’ll go in low- I’d rather knock out a couple sites first before trying to jam everything
[] We’ll go in high, if you can handle it.
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Ok guys, that's it for tonight! I'm still not sure on running into Saturday- I do get that that's a major event in the quest, and might rate a full thread, but I'm not sure it needs it, to be honest. The vote itself can be fairly short- a day, maybe, and then we can have a full week to do the aftermath and everything. I'm still not sure, I'm sure we'll talk about it during the week though. Anyway, as usual, I'll be around to answer questions if there are any! Till tomorrow guys!
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>>3477205
>[] We’ll go in high, if you can handle it.
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>>3477205
>[x] We’ll go in high, if you can handle it.
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>>3477205
>[x] We’ll go in high, if you can handle it.
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>>3477205
>[x] We’ll go in high, if you can handle it.

I want to see what she can do when we are doing things her way.
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>>3477205
>[x] We’ll go in high, if you can handle it.
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>>3477205
>[X] We’ll go in high, if you can handle it.

>>3477210
Thanks for the run boss.
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>>3477205
>[x] We’ll go in high, if you can handle it.

>>3477210
Thanks for the run Ghost!
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>>3477205
>[] We’ll go in low- I’d rather knock out a couple sites first before trying to jam everything
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>>3477205
>[] We’ll go in high, if you can handle it.
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>>3477205
>We’ll go in high, if you can handle it.

I dunno about Kyou, myself, there's too much about her that smacks of her being the objectively 'correct' choice for backseater and that's kind of driving me away despite the fact that I do actually like the girl. I'm probably just being contrarian for the sake but, I dunno, I've always had a thing for underdog picks and I'd honestly much prefer to see how well we do with one of the other two.

And once again, casual reminder that backseater choice =/= waifu routelock
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>>3477205
>[] We’ll go in low- I’d rather knock out a couple sites first before trying to jam everything
Kick 'em when they're not looking.
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>>3477205
>[] We’ll go in high, if you can handle it.
And IF she can handle it, I hope she gets a fair chance at selection.
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>>3477205
>[] We’ll go in high, if you can handle it.

We could go with this, but the moment it gets too hot we should be ready to dive towards the deck. Also since we are close to Groom Range, we should be ready for anything.
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>>3477202
>“Also, you’re going to have to get with Merlin

lewd
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>>3477074
>Danielle laughs. “Ya know, they’re saying the opposite of you. or were, anyway.” She points out. “He’s too passive, too laid back. Too much quiet and laid back to ever make it as a real wyvern driver.”
Yet another argument for Japanese Princess Waifu.
Our naturally analytical nature and her raw aggression balance each other out.
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>>3477441
>I'm probably just being contrarian for the sake
Yes you are.
>I've always had a thing for underdog picks and I'd honestly much prefer to see how well we do with one of the other two.
Not nearly as well as we'd do with Kyou.
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>>3477631
People like you don't help contrarian people stop being contrarian. In fact you make it worse.
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>>3477653
Contrarians are just hipsters under a different name, except they're worse. Especially in this particular case, where they're throwing away what is most likely going to be the fun most and hilarious option, just because it's the option that's being presented as "The correct option" and the one that's gotten the most traction. That's stupid.
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>>3477656
You're not helping your case with anyone disagreeing by coming across as a smug prick either.

As a matter of opinion there is no "correct" choice in this.
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>>3477670
>You're not helping your case with anyone disagreeing by coming across as a smug prick either.
Pointing out the stupidity of being contrarian isn't being a smug prick.

>As a matter of opinion there is no "correct" choice in this.

His words, not mine.
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>>3477681
>Pointing out the stupidity of being contrarian isn't being a smug prick.

It does in fact since this is a matter of opinion. If it was being contrarian on something like 2+2=4 then it's be stupid.

>His words, not mine.

Yes and? Doesn't mean he's right about that either.
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>>3477726
>It does in fact since this is a matter of opinion. If it was being contrarian on something like 2+2=4 then it's be stupid.

>Goes to amusement park to have fun and ride rollercoasters with friends.
>Friends trying to decide which rollercoaster to ride.
>Vote to spend the entire time at the bar instead because everyone else wants to ride rollercoasters and all the signs point to that being "the correct choice"

Tell me that's not fucking stupid, and that's pretty much what's happening here.

>Yes and? Doesn't mean he's right about that either.
I was agreeing with you, that was the whole point of the "His words, not mine."
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>>3477787
>Goes to amusement park to have fun and ride rollercoasters with friends.
>Friends trying to decide which rollercoaster to ride.
>Vote to spend the entire time at the bar instead because everyone else wants to ride rollercoasters and all the signs point to that being "the correct choice"

>Tell me that's not fucking stupid, and that's pretty much what's happening here.

Except that's nothing at all like what's happening here. He's just voting for the smaller indoor rollercoaster instead of the outdoor loop de loop.

Even with your tortured analogy going to the bar isn't being contrarian, that's actively going against the group which would be like voting for Morgan to join the Army or something equally implausible.
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>>3477836
>Except that's nothing at all like what's happening here.

Wanting to go for the smaller, barely-a-rollercoaster, rollercoaster, instead of the crazy awesome roller-coaster that also goes to other universes, and we can only pick one, and everyone has to go with that choice. Whatever, you're missing the point of the analogy my dude. Which is that voting against something SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE it's popular and all signs point to being awesome, is fucking stupid.
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>>3477864

What if I'm voting against something because you're an asshole?
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>>3477836
All in favor of Morgan joining the Army?

Aye
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>>3477925
Aye.
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It seems obvious we’re going to be Admiral Wells’ personal Wyvern. So we would appear to have the ability to punch waaaay above our weight on crew assignments than a mere LT (even one with a famous name) could normally manage.

We ought to consider sitting down with Merlin after this flight but before final selection and figure out just how far we can push that privilege ... we might be able to bag two or even all three witches for roles within her little fiefdom.

I think there’s a big difference between just picking our back-seater and the others disappearing (even if they’re disappearing into Merlin’s ‘shop’) and picking a back-seater and still getting one or both of the other witches to work with us on a daily and official basis ... worth a thought at least. We could have a nice little flight element.
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>>3477925
Nah, French Foreign Legion or bust.
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>>3477205
>[] We’ll go in high, if you can handle it.
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>>3477918
I mean, that's the definition of petty spite. But it's your vote, you can do what you want with it. Same thing with contrarian guy. I still think doing something not because you enjoy it but specifically because it's the opposite of what everyone else is doing is kinda dumb though.
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>>3478021
It's a sort of self-correction. Don't be a dick in your arguments, or you'll lose even if you win.
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>>3478031

Being fair, all three witches have up and down sides, and all three are characters I wouldn't have introduced if I didn't feel like I could tell a story with them. If any of them feels like the choice I'm pushing for, it's because I'm doing a poor job conveying what all they've got going on.
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>>3478009
>HonHonHon 2016
Y’know what. I’m okay with this
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>>3478043
I mean, much of the arguing is in favor of one because on the surface they are miles better, with no clear downsides, and you yourself have suggested they don't have any downsides. I personally don't like her, but they do have valid arguments. Taste aside, why would we choose someone multiple times stronger with no downsides over anyone else?
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>>3478043
If that’s the case, what’s Kyou’s downside?
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>>3478059
Of the boss is saying they’re meant to be equal choices then we’re clearly missing something. Either positive about Danielle and Lotus, or something negative about Kyou. Or both.
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>>3478070
>>3478073
I feel like Kyou is gonna be the most, hazardous to our health, route when the balloon goes up. Remember what maman said about the candle that burns twice as bright. I could eother see her power pushing us to pull a Frank, or Kyou burning herself out, perhaps even fatally, due to her strong sense of duty.
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>>3478082
Our personality just seems much better matched with the precision strike package we’re about to embark on. I’ll reserve judgment until we see how that turns out.
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>>3478073
I'm assuming Kyou has major negatives, because those would be easier to conceal and she was rather opaque on many things. I originally thought one of hers would be her political position, but apparently Japanese Imperial family can do no wrong. Stamina has also been thrown out. Aside from her paltry aggression issues, her powers either have a major flaw, or her personality does.

If she does have personality issues and we come to loggerheads, the US would absolutely throw us to the wolves if it meant keeping the Japanese on side. What's a single pilot, even if they do have a family reputation?
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>>3478094
I think the biggest potential issue with Kyou would be how her aggression and intensity would mesh with our cool-headedness once we're both hooked up to the MIU.

I feel that would also be interesting, though, which is why Kyou is my preferred choice.
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>>3478094
I’m also uncomfortable with the idea of having Kyou when her homeland may be in the crosshairs. If we get instructions that put US interests before Japan—that’s not a fair position to put her in AND I don’t know whether she’d obey orders under those circumstances (and I wouldn’t blame her if she didn’t).
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>>3478082
>>3478094
>>3478070

I don't see that being the issue honestly, since very little is known about that particular phenomena, Maman is probably just assuming worst case scenario, and it could very well be the exact opposite, where we have to push harder with Danielle or Lotus than we would with Kyou.

If anything Kyou's downside will probably be related to Royalty issues and the press. Another possibility to consider, given that her nickname is "The Wolf Princess" and her aggressive nature in the jet, is that she's an absolute hothead, the Frank to our Merlin so to speak. She's also a Wyvern-sexual, I will bet real money on it.
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>>3478100
Personally though, I see that as an extremely INTERESTING potential scenario. Morgan isn't me. And I've long believed that old saw about creating characters people care about, then putting them through hell.
So Kyou having both the most raw power, and the harshest drawbacks? To me it's the biggest appeal of her.
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>>3478100
See I think that would be a super interesting character moment.
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BaguetteBattle 2k16
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>>3478099
Her agression issues, while rediculous, aren't nearly enough of a downside, as with her in the backseat she can't do much with it. The mind meld might make it a little worse, but it'll still be the same anons wanting to play not-Frank, so it still won't matter much. There has to be something more to make the others competitive.

Also, even if she's officially our backseater, she's also a foreign dignitary, so we will permanently be de facto under her control if she wants to push something. For the same reason, the royal family would have a hissy fit if she gets injured or dies, so we will wind up being sidelined as much as command can get away with.
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>>3478099
I think we would be able to strike a decent balance between the two of us, might take some work but in the end we'd end up being a fairly scary customer.

>>3478100
>when her homeland may be in the crosshairs
Considering how close the two nations are in universe I highly doubt they'd be in our crosshairs. Our countries interests may and will differ at times but at the end of the day I don't see that as an issue to worry too much about.
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>>3478119
>So we will wind up being sidelined as much as command can get away with.

You might be right but I can also guarantee that she will fight that tooth and nail. She's too eager for this to take being sidelined because of politics lying down.
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>>3478131
I meant the enemies’ crosshairs.
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Just realized with the AI being integrated into the plane, it is impossible for us to be shot down because it would kill the AI.
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>>3478145
And now I’m seeing an AI ejection system like Titanfall 2.
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>>3478119
What?

First off, we're the pilot. There's very defined roles in the plane and it doesn't matter who she is, she signed up and signed on the dotted like so she's along for the ride. Militarily she can't push us around.

Socially, perhaps she can but there's ways around that.

As for the rest, no we're not getting sidelined. There's only 40 or so Wyverns and we'll be in high demand the whole time. And while the Imperial family might get upset if she's hurt unnecessarily, they'll be more upset if she's wrapped in tissue paper.
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>>3478140
As far as command is concerned it's simple math. An unhappy dignitary is better than one injured or killed on their watch.
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>>3478142
Ah, sorry I misunderstood you on that.

>>3478145
Are you sure about that?
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>>3478154
From what has been said about the AI systems, they are massive and complicated. Even if they managed to make them ejectable, they run on magic. But most importantly, they would be incredibly valuable as a capture, and would have no way to defend themselves or even move. And you can't rely on the pilots to lug several tons of computers out of hostile territory, even if they made it out of the plane and to the AI intact.
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>>3478154
No worries. My concern is that the US can trade space for time in a war with China (if that’s what ends up happening). Japan doesn’t have much space to give up. That could cause problems.

Now, I totally understand people wanting to explore that tension in-quest ... I just tend to play more like my real-world instincts than many anons. Not a problem with me either way—I’ve got a personal preference for Danielle but there aren’t any dealbreakers for me here.
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>>3478149
Officially sure, but that was the point. She has tons of soft power over us, and could leverage that if she wanted. And the US would consider a single pilot a cheap price, so we'd get no help there.
>sidelined
See
>>3478154
They won't care if she doesn't see as much action as she wants if she makes it back in one piece.
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>>3478177
They've agreed to put her in the top line fighter of the entire US, there's not going to be "sidelines" in out future.

The Japanese regularly send their princesses out on the front lines, we saw as much in 89. The Navy isn't going to coddle either of us because she "might" get hurt. Not with us being in an asset worth half a destroyer by itself.
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>>3477864
Aight, I can see now that I was probably a little retarded in my choice of wording in my original post. As >>3478059 said, it's more that it seemed (at least to me) that Kyou is the choice with no real downsides in terms of what she brings to the table as Morgan's backseater whilst in the air and, personally, I thought that just sounded boring. I'll reiterate that I like what we've seen of Kyou's character so far, and that I'm not going to throw a massive tantrum or anything if she snags the position, I just (again, personally) think it'd be a little more interesting if the two drake drivers had to work a little harder to earn the ace status.

Sorry bout the fuss anon, didn't mean to kick off a shitstorm.
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>>3477205
>>[x] We’ll go in high, if you can handle it
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>>3478228
It's all good man, I could have handled it better. The way that was worded just sounded like being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian which is like....yeah.
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>>3477205
>[X] We’ll go in high, if you can handle it.
Let's see how much fire control radar Daniel can cancel!
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Ok guys, votes called! Let's get going!
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Oh bugger me, I just realized there is a plane that might show up because we are at Groom Range, if so all we can do is literally bend over grab our ankles and kiss our ass goodbye.
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>>3478504
If you are thinking that the Fenrir might show up then you are probably wrong. I doubt that they would send that out against us unless they absolutely wanted us to fail.
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[x] We’ll go in high, if you can handle it.

“We’ll go in high if you can handle it.” You respond.

“As long as they didn’t park a whole lot of shit outside there as ship-simulators, I’ll be fine. And we can always go for the deck anyway.” She responds.

You don’t respond, instead looking forward with the passive sensors. There’s nothing out there you can see yet, though, you’re still far too far away. It’s another hundred miles before you start to detect the faint emissions of search radars- and Danielle calls them almost as soon as they pop up.

“Got em.” She calls. “Multiple emitters, type three-zero-five bravo, all in search. If they’re set up to mimic standard Chicom deployment, those will be slaved to layered SAM batteries and semi-dispersed fire control radars. Not sure if they’re on a datanet, but it’s safer to assume they are. They’ll vector fighters in once the long range SAMs have engaged.”

“You sound sure of that.” You point out.

“If they’re playing by Chinese doctrine.” She says. “They and the soviets taught the guys we flew against, and they always prefer to engage with SAMs first, then fighters, then shorter range SAMs. They’re usually outclassed, and it’s cheaper and easier to try and kill something with an S four hundred or a knockoff than it is to let it chew through a squadron of fighters. Once they’ve got us tracked, we’ll see fire control radars pop up, then they’ll launch SAMs while vectoring fighters and witches.”

[] So how should we play this?
[] Ok, we’ll pop the search radars first, then kill the ground targets while they’re blind.
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>>3478514

Given how the Chair Force usually splashes Wyvern crews that are working up at least once and that they played their trump card last hop yet we trumped their trump card, they are likely rather pissed about it and would probably want to teach us a lesson about how we aren't immortal, that there are planes that are easily our equal out there.
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>>3478521
>[] Ok, we’ll pop the search radars first, then kill the ground targets while they’re blind.
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>>3478521
>[x] So how should we play this?
No harm in seeing how she thinks about this.

>>3478522
They have other planes for that, like the Morgan (pretty sure it's in limited service like the wyvern) or maybe even a fandance (CFA-44) if one or two ended up in the US following the war.
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>>3478521
>[x] So how should we play this?
First of all, she’s the expert. Second of all, going for the radars first seems like the obvious choice. So if they really want to fuck us over, they might have something up their sleeves to counter such a thing
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>>3478521
>[] Ok, we’ll pop the search radars first, then kill the ground targets while they’re blind.
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>>3478533
Oh, you know what, I'm changing my vote to this.
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>>3478521
>[x] So how should we play this?
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>>3478521
>[X] So how should we play this?
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>>3478532
>pic related but with Fandances
Man, that’d be cool
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>>3478521
>[x] So how should we play this?
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>>3478521
>[] So how should we play this?
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>>3478521
>[x] So how should we play this?
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>>3478521
>[x] Ok, we’ll pop the search radars first, then kill the ground targets while they’re blind.
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Ok, votes closed!
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[x] So how should we play this?

“So how should we play this?” you ask, noting that your oxygen purity has notched incrementally up in response to a heart rate increase- adrenaline, you think. You know how to recognize it when it happens, from both experience and things Maman taught you.

“Stay high till their fire control radars come online.” Danielle responds. “Once they’ve acquired us, we’ll get a fix, then get HARMS off back along their tracks and get low to make cluster runs. With jamming we should be fine but we won’t want to hang too high once we’re painted. Unlock the HARMs and I’ll handle the shooting, if you want.”

[] All yours.
[] I’ll handle the shots, just set them up.
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>>3478623
>[] All yours.
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>>3478623
>[x] All yours.
We need to be ready to handle any air contacts
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>>3478623
>[X] All yours.
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>>3478623
>[] All yours.
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>>3478623
>[x] All yours.
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>>3478623
>[] All yours.
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>>3478623
>[x] All yours.
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>>3478623
>[] All yours.
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>>3478623
>[] I’ll handle the shots, just set them up
If only so we don’t just bend over and have her do everything
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>>3476971
>Maybe Cass could though.
You absolute tease.
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>>3478623
>[x] I’ll handle the shots, just set them up.
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>>3478623
>[X] All yours.
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>>3478623
>[] I’ll handle the shots, just set them up.
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ok, votes called!
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[x] All yours.

You reach out, toggling the HARMs to Danielle’s trigger. “On your trigger.” you say over the intercom, noting the presence of a pair of airborne sources of emissions- ones you’re not familiar with immediately. They’re headed west, towards you, but they’re not moving that quickly, yet- they probably don’t see you.

“Affirm. Alright, on my call head for the deck.” She warns. “I’m going to try and catch the fire control radars before they get a fix to launch on us, no promises.”

It’s another minute before your radar warning receiver starts it’s shrill tone- you’re painted first by the search set, then rapidly by multiple fire control radars, the spike in the energy indicating that multiple systems have engaged you simultaneously. At the same time, however, you can see multiple AGM-88Es rocketing clear of your centerline bay, tracking back down the line of bearing provided by the fire control radars. “Dive dive dive!” Danielle calls. “Hit the burners!”

You don’t need quite that much encouragement, pointing the nose of your fighter at the ground and plummeting from your position to level out a few thousand feet above the desert. “They’re still looking, I’m jamming.” Danielle says. “They’ll see the HARMs coming and shut down their radars, but we’ve still got good odds on getting them all. I’ve got two bandits in the air, hot. They’ll be here in two minutes at their current flight profile. That’s enough time to hit the launchers and shut these SAM sites down, but we’ll have to stay low to do it. There’s no datanet up yet on their end, I think we got their radars before they squawked.”

You see her point- getting a comprehensive kill on these SAM nests now means that you only have the isolated nest to deal with- and it also means that any short range systems down there are knocked out. There could easily be some short range SAMs down there, infrared or electro-optically guided. Of course, the fighters worry you- they’re not king raptors and they’re not lightnings, you know that for sure, but the radar is far too strong for a witch mounted set.

[] Stay low and get the kill on these sites- with them gone, it’s just the fighters between us and the AWACS.
[] Something’s off about those fighters- let’s get down into the mountains and get a look at what we’re dealing with, here.
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>>3478753
>[x] Stay low and get the kill on these sites- with them gone, it’s just the fighters between us and the AWACS.
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>>3478753
>[] Stay low and get the kill on these sites- with them gone, it’s just the fighters between us and the AWACS.
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Sorry about the pacing tonight gents, I'm trying to clean the bathroom too.

I'm pretty sure the bathroom doesn't want to be cleaned at this point. haha!
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>>3478753
>[X] Stay low and get the kill on these sites- with them gone, it’s just the fighters between us and the AWACS.
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>>3478753
>[x] Stay low and get the kill on these sites- with them gone, it’s just the fighters between us and the AWACS.
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>>3478753
>[] Something’s off about those fighters- let’s get down into the mountains and get a look at what we’re dealing with, here.
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>>3478753
>[] Stay low and get the kill on these sites- with them gone, it’s just the fighters between us and the AWACS.
Eyes on the prize.
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>>3478753
>[] Stay low and get the kill on these sites- with them gone, it’s just the fighters between us and the AWACS.
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>>3478753
>[x] Something’s off about those fighters- let’s get down into the mountains and get a look at what we’re dealing with, here.
Yo buddy... Still alive?
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>>3478753
>[x] Stay low and get the kill on these sites- with them gone, it’s just the fighters between us and the AWACS.
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>>3478753
>[X] Stay low and get the kill on these sites- with them gone, it’s just the fighters between us and the AWACS.

Stay on target, stay on target...
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>>3478753
>[x] Something’s off about those fighters- let’s get down into the mountains and get a look at what we’re dealing with, here.

19s?
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>>3478753
>[] Something’s off about those fighters- let’s get down into the mountains and get a look at what we’re dealing with, here.

I don't want to get blind-sided by some nasty.
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>>3478753
>[x] Something’s off about those fighters- let’s get down into the mountains and get a look at what we’re dealing with, here.

Know your enemy. Surprises are never a good thing in combat.
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>>3478753
>[] Stay low and get the kill on these sites- with them gone, it’s just the fighters between us and the AWACS.
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Ok, votes called!
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Something tells me that the decision to go after the AWACS first without checking the fighters, is going to bite us in the ass.
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>>3478753
>ones you’re not familiar with immediately
OH NO NO NO NO
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>>3478814
I very much agree. We're taking the route of the IJN here.
"We know there are enemy ships patrolling the area. We don't know what or how many, and we lost some ships to them last night. I'm sure it will be fine to run the exact same mission plan!"
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Doesn't the Airforce still fly those Morgans?
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>>3478824
Yeah, they have a few, Ghost and Merc have mentioned this before.
Hell, we literally went over the fact that Morgans might be brought in not long ago.

Anon, being anon, doesn't get the hint or doesn't care. It's not like Morgan wouldn't not expect them to be brought in either given how he's been making Chairforce look like jokes, to the point he left a Youngspawn in the dust and ruined her killstreak on Wyverns.
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>>3478833

Gotta love it when people get cocky and then the QM, DM, GM, reminds you what the price of cockiness is.
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>>3478848
Pretty sure people in SWQ got like this.

Then Planefag showed them the consequences of sneaking aboard a battleship to acquire ice cream.
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>>3478854
To be fair, SWQ was very bipolar tonally. Most of the stupid things Young did could have easily bitten him almost as bad if pf had been in the mood. One thread shenanigans were harmless, the next they caused some major drama.
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>>3478862
Fair enough.
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>>3478862
>>3478854
That was the best part about OG-SWQ in my opinion.
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>>3478880

Honestly, the Operation Aphrodite B-17 showing up was unexpected and rather amusing, the reaction from the anons went from "RIP Pillow Fort" to "RUN!" very quickly.
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[x] Stay low and get the kill on these sites- with them gone, it’s just the fighters between us and the AWACS.

You look at the target list, noting that, by your math, even if those fighters accelerate, you can get at least two of the targets here before they get into an AMRAAM’s maximum range against you, and probably even the third at this aspect.

“Pickle! Pickle!” Danielle calls as the bombs drop out of your aft bay- You can’t carry that many of them in there, so you pick your targets carefully- the sheet metal and lumber target mockups vaporizing under the impact of a couple hundred bomblets.

“That’s one gone.” Danielle calls- in a live fire situation, you know, the island would still have to be targeted by tomahawks or follow-on strike aircraft- you knocked out the search and fire control radars, and would have destroyed the major SAM battery here, but any self-contained systems could still pose a threat to anything coming within a couple of miles. Of course, your job to punch a hole typically means just that kind of thing- you can’t physically carry enough ords to entirely destroy an integrated Anti-access network, so you’d destroy the most vulnerable parts of it to allow more conventional forces or witches to finish the job.

“Three more, check right.” Danielle calls. “Bandits are two minutes from maximum AMRAAM range. We’ve got time for one more target.”

“We’re going for it.” You say, adjusting your flight path to carry you, low and fast, over one of the other sites.

“Radar guided guns!” Danielle warns. “I’ve got them jammed, but the umps could still say they’re firing optical! They’re broadcasting, I’m playing that music.”

With her ECM up, you’re easily able to destroy the second long-range SAM complex before the bandits close on you- and go active on their radars. This close, it’s impossible they won’t get a fix on you.

“They’re firing They’re firing! Notch right!” Danielle warns as the two jets engage with AMRAAMS well inside their engagement envelope, even for you. You pull the fighter into a hard ninety degree turn, breaking your radar return for the relatively simple system in the AMRAAM- though both fighers have you locked, and it’s only through Danielle’s efforts in jamming the datalink that the shots are trashed.

1/2
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“Ninteens!” She warns.

You’d suspected these were on the way- the air force’s equivalent to the Wyvern, there’s fewer of them in service than the drake, with less than a squadron being spread out across the USAF. They typically operate in pairs- you wonder where these two are from- there’s not that many bases that host the type, and as they break away, you don’t get a good look at their tail codes.

The -19 is fairly evenly matched with the wyvern, except for two things- one is it’s a single seat fighter, there’s no witch. The other is that it’s both faster on paper and turns better at high speeds than you do- a Wyvern turns much better below mach, but a high speed dogfight is very much it’s game. That said, they don’t enjoy the presence of a baked-in AI, either- and while yours isn’t truly aware yet, it gives you another edge- you can process information much faster even than these guys.

“Damn!” Danielle calls. “So is this a bad time to point out these things have gotten me every time I’ve flown against them?”

[] You weren’t in a wyvern then, either. Let’s get them.
[] Better late than never- we’ll lose them in the mountains.
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>>3478913
>[x] You weren’t in a wyvern then, either. Let’s get them.
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>>3478913
>[] You weren’t in a wyvern then, either. Let’s get them.
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>>3478913
>[] Better late than never- we’ll lose them in the mountains.

Should've investigated the fighters because now we are in a bad position. We have already screwed up against them because the Morgans can dictate the fight.
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>>3478913
>[] You weren’t in a wyvern then, either. Let’s get them.
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>>3478913
>[x] Better late than never- we’ll lose them in the mountains.
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>>3478913
>[X] Better late than never- we’ll lose them in the mountains.
Let's NOT give the dogfighters they're game.
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>>3478913
>[x] Better late than never- we’ll lose them in the mountains.
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>>3478913
>[x] You weren’t in a wyvern then, either. Let’s get them.
Much as I think this is a horrible option, we've thrown away our chance to leave by letting them get the jump on us.
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>>3478913
>[x] You weren’t in a wyvern then, either. Let’s get them.
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>>3478913
>[] You weren’t in a wyvern then, either. Let’s get them.
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>>3478913
>[X] You weren't in a wyvern then, either. Let's get them.
If they're faster than us then trying to lose them is a mugs game. I'd rather take shots at them than get chased down with no real way to reply.
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>>3478913
>[X] You weren’t in a wyvern then, either. Let’s get them.
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Ok, votes closed!
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>>3478913
>[X] You weren’t in a wyvern then, either. Let’s get them.

Hopefully we can draw them into the slower turnfight, where we turn better. Maybe blap one on the way in so it's not a 2v1.
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>>3478913
>[X] You weren’t in a wyvern then, either. Let’s get them.
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>>3478976
Even this is a pretty hard fallacy. Yes, we're better in a slow turnfight, but
1) a good pilot knows not to engage a fight he can't win, so they'll likely Boom & Zoom
2) There's two of them. If we turn on one, we'll give a shot to the other, and they can keep doing this until we bleed all of our energy and stall in front of a very angry yet impersonal missile.
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>>3478997
welp, I suck at ACM
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>>3479017
This isn't a bad place to learn...

Depending on who you ask.
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>>3479023
yea, and I'm only half here tonight, so I'm reverting to the ages-ago SWQ-type, will have to pay more attention.
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>>3479023
Just so long as he doesn't fly like an NPC Osean nugget he'll learn fine.
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>>3479023
Someone summon the Angel of Fap to explain things.
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[x] You weren’t in a wyvern then, either. Let’s get them.

“You weren’t in a wyvern then, either.” You say, clamping down on the thrill that shoots through you as you turn into the merge. “Let’s get them.”

The 19s react about as you’d expect them to- splitting up, forcing you to pick one target while the other has a chance to come back around on you. You latch onto the one on the right out of necessity, your turn already carrying you into him. The airforce jockey is nowhere near as green as you are- he hammers his fighter into a crushing break into your turn, forcing you to reverse to stay on him.

You cue up the heatseekers, even though you know, right now, you’ll never get a shot on him- he’s dragging the fight higher into the sky and trying to accelerate, trying to work your jet’s weaknesses against it. He knows he’ll turn better at high speed- and he’s only got to last long enough for his partner to show up. The advantage you have is he has to accelerate- he can’t afford to trade speed to try to suck you in closer and give him a chance to reverse, since you’ll out turn him anyway.

“They’re networked!” Danielle calls. “I’ve got them mostly blind, but their EO systems are going to still work, and I can’t shut down their guns. That AWACS is closing, too, if they get close enough they might be able to overpower anything I can do, wizard ECM suite built by the hands of Merlin or no, and I can’t beat a ninteen’s electronic warfare suite forever. Whatever you’re going to do, you need to do it.”

He’s gaining space on you- they’re never going to be stupid enough to turn fight when they can hit and run. Speed, as always, is a massive advantage, and on paper, the -19 is faster... before WEP. Still, if Danielle is already pushing to keep these two blind, WEP may be more than she can handle.

[] She’s going to have to deal- we have no other option
[] You’re running out of choices- he’s getting close to maximum range for sidewinders anyway. We can ripple a few to force him to go missile defensive, maybe that’ll give us an opening.
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>>3479056
>[x] You’re running out of choices- he’s getting close to maximum range for sidewinders anyway. We can ripple a few to force him to go missile defensive, maybe that’ll give us an opening.

That should buy us enough time to turn on his buddy.
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>potentially better at dogfighting at high speeds than us
>let’s speed up
I get that the default for certain people is to run from anything and everything, but seriously?
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>>3479056
[] You’re running out of choices- he’s getting close to maximum range for sidewinders anyway. We can ripple a few to force him to go missile defensive, maybe that’ll give us an opening.
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>>3479056
>[x] You’re running out of choices- he’s getting close to maximum range for sidewinders anyway. We can ripple a few to force him to go missile defensive, maybe that’ll give us an opening.
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>>3479056
>[] She’s going to have to deal- we have no other option
If it’s time sensitive. Let’s see if she’s worthy of that seat.
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>>3479056
>[X] You’re running out of choices- he’s getting close to maximum range for sidewinders anyway. We can ripple a few to force him to go missile defensive, maybe that’ll give us an opening.

I'm still somewhat baffled as to why you guys voted to ignore a pair of unknown contacts, when we knew that the Air Force was still pissed at us for giving them the slip.
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>>3479056
>[] You’re running out of choices- he’s getting close to maximum range for sidewinders anyway. We can ripple a few to force him to go missile defensive, maybe that’ll give us an opening.

Our aerial fangs are out.
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>>3479078
Because we don't have any long-range weapons and would have to fight over active SAMs if we hadn't.
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>>3479056
>[X] You’re running out of choices- he’s getting close to maximum range for sidewinders anyway. We can ripple a few to force him to go missile defensive, maybe that’ll give us an opening.
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>>3479056
>[x] You’re running out of choices- he’s getting close to maximum range for sidewinders anyway. We can ripple a few to force him to go missile defensive, maybe that’ll give us an opening.
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>>3479056
>[x] You’re running out of choices- he’s getting close to maximum range for sidewinders anyway. We can ripple a few to force him to go missile defensive, maybe that’ll give us an opening.

I don't like maybes but playing to the enemy pilots' strength sounds like a bad idea since he knows his shit.
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>>3479056
>[x] She’s going to have to deal- we have no other option
We need to take him out fast, can't fuck around too long.
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>>3479056
>[] You’re running out of choices- he’s getting close to maximum range for sidewinders anyway. We can ripple a few to force him to go missile defensive, maybe that’ll give us an opening.
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>>3479056
>[] She’s going to have to deal- we have no other option
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Ok, votes called! This update will probably be our last for the night, though I am pretty set on extending into Saturday to get the selection done.
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>>3479056
SHIT GOT TOO CAUGHT UP IN WHAT I WAS DOING.
For the record, I was going to write in this.
>Force WEP, Go for guns. It's a risk we have to take, and we can catch him off guard. This fight's now on us, Danielle has enough on her plate.
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>>3479078
Because it was a choice between investigating or clearing an objective and we were going to find out what they were anyway.
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>>3479123
It was a choice between awareness and being caught flat-footed. If there's one thing I've learned about any kind of warfare in all my years of studying military history, it's that no matter who fights who, or how bad a matchup is, the one with the biggest advantage is always the one who sees their opponent first. That vote was to decide who got eyes on first.
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>>3479134
The vote was also to pull off target or not. Waste of money if a super plane can’t adapt anyway.
>I've learned about any kind of warfare in all my years of studying
I just can’t. Sorry.
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[x] You’re running out of choices- he’s getting close to maximum range for sidewinders anyway. We can ripple a few to force him to go missile defensive, maybe that’ll give us an opening.

You’re running out of options- he’s faster and with a partner coming around, you have to do something, and quick. Queuing up the AIM-9Xes, you ripple a pair at the -19 in front of you, attempting to force him to execute a missile defensive turn. Assuming you’ve called it right, if he does a missile defensive-break turn, he’s going to lose enough speed to give you long enough to get a solution, though it may cost you a decent number of missiles.

He does- breaking hard left and pumping decoys into the air behind him, causing him to bleed speed as the Gs build. You follow him into the turn, sliding through the maneuver as he does, pushing the thrust vectoring to the limit on your fighter. Still, below mach, it was only going to be a desperation move- you cue up another sidewinder, kiss it on it’s way, and then launch a fourth as he breaks away from the third. Bled of airspeed, he rolls inverted and dives as you get a lock- and send a fifth at him before switching to guns. The switch proves unnecessary- without shields, the last sidewinder gets enough of him for the computer to call it a kill- even if it hadn’t been, he’d have been too damaged to continue the fight.

“Break, Break!” Danielle warns, and you slam the wyvern into a 90 degree turn, narrowly evading a missile shot. “That one broke through.” She says. “The AWACS is close enough for ECCM work. I can keep the radar off us, but he’s going to have heaters, nothing I can do about that anymore, not with everything else looking for firing solutions. The fourth target point is trying to paint us for their SAMS, and I can’t get a HARM off at them in a furball.”

The other airforce fighter is pushing north, headed away from you at speed. He’s not done, of course, but with the AWACS this close, he almost doesn’t have to be- AMRAAMS with a solid datalink are much harder to defeat, and the AWACS is still almost a hundred miles away. They’re probably pretty confident the 19s can get you, to be this close.

[] go for the AWACS- you’re going to force that fighter to fight your way or you’ll kill his trump card.
[] See if you can’t get Danielle a shot at that other radar, take some stress off her.
[] go defensive and try to break contact- come back at this from another angle!
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>>3479163
Can't what? I literally studied military history in college, as a major specialization.
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And that's gonna be it for the night! I may run a bit over tomorrow night to make sure we get where we need to, but I'm really going to try to be more on the ball with updates- just trying to do too much around here right now, haha.
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>>3479172
>[x] See if you can’t get Danielle a shot at that other radar, take some stress off her.
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>>3479172
>[x] go for the AWACS- you’re going to force that fighter to fight your way or you’ll kill his trump card.
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>>3479172
>[] go for the AWACS- you’re going to force that fighter to fight your way or you’ll kill his trump card.
Welcome to our world.
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>>3479175
Thanks for the run, Chief.
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>>3479172
>[X] go for the AWACS- you’re going to force that fighter to fight your way or you’ll kill his trump card.
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>>3479172
>[x] go for the AWACS- you’re going to force that fighter to fight your way or you’ll kill his trump card.
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>>3479172
>[] go for the AWACS- you’re going to force that fighter to fight your way or you’ll kill his trump card.
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>>3479175
This is EXACTLY what we needed to see if Danielle can cut it. Jury’s still out ... but we’ll know by the end of the mission. Thanks for that boss.
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>>3479172
>[X] go for the AWACS- you’re going to force that fighter to fight your way or you’ll kill his trump card.

>>3479175
Thanks for the run boss.
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>>3479172
>[x] go for the AWACS- you’re going to force that fighter to fight your way or you’ll kill his trump card.
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>>3479172
>[x] See if you can’t get Danielle a shot at that other radar, take some stress off her.

>>3479175
Thanks for the run Ghost!
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>>3479172
>[x] go for the AWACS- you’re going to force that fighter to fight your way or you’ll kill his trump card.
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>>3479172
>[x] go for the AWACS- you’re going to force that fighter to fight your way or you’ll kill his trump card.
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>>3479172
>[x] See if you can’t get Danielle a shot at that other radar, take some stress off her.
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Too bad that the AIM-9X Sidewinder doesn't have Lock-on After Launch capability, otherwise we could launch a salvo at that AWACS bird.
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>>3479172
>[X] go for the AWACS- you’re going to force that fighter to fight your way or you’ll kill his trump card.
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>>3479428
HARMs work on AWACS radars too. Fire one at him and he’ll have to shut down his radar to evade (which he can do because unlike the ground station he can move afterwards so when the missile arrives he won’t be in the same spot) and that will buy us some breathing room ...
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>>3479172
>[] go for the AWACS- you’re going to force that fighter to fight your way or you’ll kill his trump card.
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>>3479480

Your right, I forgot about that. Plus we know they work against aircraft because one was accidentally fired against a B-52 which was promptly renamed In HARM's Way.
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>>3479172
>>[x] go for the AWACS- you’re going to force that fighter to fight your way or you’ll kill his trump card.
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>>3478094
>if it meant keeping the Japanese on side
I'm sure the IJN brass and royal family are well aware of Kyou's character, and wouldn't go this far.
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>>3479172
>[] go for the AWACS- you’re going to force that fighter to fight your way or you’ll kill his trump card.

So I’m assuming we’re actually using AARGM version, but either way the missile can lock in a particular radar set’s signature from an on-Board library (so you don’t shoot friendlies like the infamous In HARM’s Way incident where the missile was fired with no guidance lock and locked onto a B-52’s tail gun radar and blew most of the tail off). If we lock in the radar type of the AWACS (which is totally different than a ground station or a fighter) and fire in the general direction it will have to kill its radar to avoid getting blown to bits. That should buy us the time we need.

Best case, the AWACS doesn’t react in time and we get a kill (the AGM-88 is a BIG missile compared to an AMRAAM or Sidewinder).
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>>3480257
Only problem with that is so far all of our A2G munitions have been live, not captive.
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>>3480263

Crap!
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>>3480268
Went back and checked, the HARMs might be captive or at least they were for our first flight with Danielle. So maybe?
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>>3480303

One thing that stood out for me in Red Storm Rising was that the Soviets launched an aerial blitz of MiG-23s to kill the AWACS birds, SAMs and fighters mauled the attacking force but they managed to threaten the AWACS birds enough that they shutdown their radars and dove for the deck. Even if we don't get the kill, all we have to do is force the AWACS to dive to the deck and he's effectively out of the fight until he can claw his way back up to altitude.
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>>3480263
There is no way in hell they gave us live anti-radiation missiles with friendly manned radars (i.e. AWACS, the fighter sets) on the range. Period.
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>>3480486
That is a very good point
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Ok, votes called! Sorry about the delay, haha.
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[x] go for the AWACS- you’re going to force that fighter to fight your way or you’ll kill his trump card.

You pull the wyvern around in a hard turn, pushing the throttles forward into the afterburner range- and then on into WEP, holding them there while you arrow in at the AWACS. Danielle doesn’t protest, or, at least, she doesn’t say anything, and you watch the -19, slightly out of position, come around to intercept. At mach 2.7, though, he’s only got about sixty seconds to get a firing solution before the AWACS is forced to shut off his radar and go evasive. Less, honestly, when he sees you coming- his only real hope is to stop radiating and get low.

He sees you coming and does just that- the massive airborne radar simply disappears, and, with it, the solutions most of the hostile datanet was relying on to track you. The -19 behind you responds immediately, powering his own radar set back up, but it’s much more limited, especially stacked against Danielle.

“That’s better.” She says. “Ground sites are still up and looking, but I can handle them, at least for now, and that bandit won’t get a solution for AMRAAMs anytime soon.”

You nod, looking back at the air force fighter- he’s going to catch up, that much is certain, and a high speed dogfight favors him, without a doubt, but you’ve only shut down the AWACS temporarily- and your orders did indicate you needed to kill it.

[] If we get the AWACS and then give Danielle a chance to launch HARMs we’ll have done what we were supposed to do, the Excalibur is just a bonus.
[] If we leave that -19 alone, he’s going to stay all over us- we’ll engage now, while we’ve got an advantage.
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>>3481026
>[] If we get the AWACS and then give Danielle a chance to launch HARMs we’ll have done what we were supposed to do, the Excalibur is just a bonus.
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>>3481026
>[x] If we leave that -19 alone, he’s going to stay all over us- we’ll engage now, while we’ve got an advantage.

We are the only thing in the air that can reliably take care of him and we supposed to clear a corridor for a follow-up strike.
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>>3481026
>[] If we get the AWACS and then give Danielle a chance to launch HARMs we’ll have done what we were supposed to do, the Excalibur is just a bonus.
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>>3481026
>[x] If we leave that -19 alone, he’s going to stay all over us- we’ll engage now, while we’ve got an advantage.

Kill him while we've got the chance, then we can worry about cleaning up.
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>>3481026
>[x] If we leave that -19 alone, he’s going to stay all over us- we’ll engage now, while we’ve got an advantage.
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>>3481026
>[x] If we get the AWACS and then give Danielle a chance to launch HARMs we’ll have done what we were supposed to do, the Excalibur is just a bonus.
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>>3481026
>[X] If we leave that -19 alone, he’s going to stay all over us- we’ll engage now, while we’ve got an advantage.

Let's not leave an equal-tier super plane on our tail while we chase ground targets.
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>>3481026
>[x] If we leave that -19 alone, he’s going to stay all over us- we’ll engage now, while we’ve got an advantage.
We knock out this guy and we'll be shooting fish in a barrel.
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>>3481026
>[X] If we leave that -19 alone, he’s going to stay all over us- we’ll engage now, while we’ve got an advantage.
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>>3481026
>[] If we leave that -19 alone, he’s going to stay all over us- we’ll engage now, while we’ve got an advantage
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>>3481026
>[x] If we leave that -19 alone, he’s going to stay all over us- we’ll engage now, while we’ve got an advantage.
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>>3481026
>[] If we leave that -19 alone, he’s going to stay all over us- we’ll engage now, while we’ve got an advantage.
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Ok, votes called!
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[x] If we leave that -19 alone, he’s going to stay all over us- we’ll engage now, while we’ve got an advantage.

You realize now’s your best chance to kill the last air force fighter- he can’t engage with BVR weapons effectively thanks to Danielle, and he can’t risk boom and zoom tactics- if you get even a few miles of separation, you can push into WEP again and kill the AWACS. He’s trapped- he has to engage you in a fight on your terms to buy the AWACS time to separate and bring it’s radar back into play.

He closes fast- you mark him at about mach 2.8 or so- slightly faster than Danielle can push the Wyvern, then, but not as fast as Lotus or Kyou, you note. That’s the problem with the 19- it’s too much of a known element. The air force has witch pilots for them, but judging by these two so far, they’re former eagle or raptor drivers. He shows it in the merge, going for a yo-yo as you turn in- he can’t boom and zoom, but he’s got slightly more power in conventional regimes, and plans to use it.

Still, at these speeds- around 600 miles an hour indicated- you’ve got the advantage in a furball like this and are able to reverse easily with a rolling Kulbit- he can’t match it, instead pushing over into a dive as you level back out. You have to admit- he’s good, and even with AI assist you’re struggling to stay on him- but you’re managing, if only just- and not enough for a gun kill.

You’re not sure what prompts the move when he breaks hard right, popping his flaps and spoliers and damn near stopping midair- but it’s an opening you don’t miss- he rolls away, leveling out a few thousand feet up and heading for the range exit.

“Damn.” Danielle says from the back, a little out of breath. “You move this thing like a witch. AWACS is sixty miles out, they’re low and cold, pushing north. We get them, I can fire HARMs from altitude and get the last radar site. Unless you want to go gun dueling with the place, that’ll have to be enough.”

[] Right. Let’s get the AWACS and you can kill those radars. We’ll wrap this all up and RTB.
[] I want to go after that ground site first- the AWACS can’t get too far away. And they’ve still got SAMS.
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>>3481169
>[x] Right. Let’s get the AWACS and you can kill those radars. We’ll wrap this all up and RTB.
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>>3481169
>[X] Right. Let’s get the AWACS and you can kill those radars. We’ll wrap this all up and RTB.
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>>3481169
>[] Right. Let’s get the AWACS and you can kill those radars. We’ll wrap this all up and RTB.
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>>3481169

>[x] Right. Let’s get the AWACS and you can kill those radars. We’ll wrap this all up and RTB.
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>>3481169
>[x] Right. Let’s get the AWACS and you can kill those radars. We’ll wrap this all up and RTB.
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>>3481169
>[x] Right. Let’s get the AWACS and you can kill those radars. We’ll wrap this all up and RTB.
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>>3481169
>[] Right. Let’s get the AWACS and you can kill those radars. We’ll wrap this all up and RTB.
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>>3481169
>[] Right. Let’s get the AWACS and you can kill those radars. We’ll wrap this all up and RTB.
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>>3481169
>[X] Right. Let’s get the AWACS and you can kill those radars. We’ll wrap this all up and RTB.

Complete the objective and everything after that is just bonus points.
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>>3481169
>[x] Right. Let’s get the AWACS and you can kill those radars. We’ll wrap this all up and RTB.
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>>3481169
>[] Right. Let’s get the AWACS and you can kill those radars. We’ll wrap this all up and RTB.
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>>3481169
>[] Right. Let’s get the AWACS and you can kill those radars. We’ll wrap this all up and RTB.
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>>3481169
>[x] Right. Let’s get the AWACS and you can kill those radars. We’ll wrap this all up and RTB.
Like shooting fish in a barrel.
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>>3481169
So. Fuel or trap?
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Ok, votes called!
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[x] Right. Let’s get the AWACS and you can kill those radars. We’ll wrap this all up and RTB.

It’s almost anticlimactic- you’re expecting witches again, but none appear when you record a positive gun kill on the AWACS, and there’s still none that pop up as your HARMs lance out towards the radars of the last site. “That’s it.” Danielle says, after the range control confirms the hits and the radars drop offline. “That’s a sixty mile wide corridor, fifty if they go low and there’s self-propelled SAMS at the other sites. Signal away.”

You’re exiting the range before the follow-on strike shows up- or would show up, were it real. You’re landing back at Miramar about 45 minutes later, having had to wait as air force one crossed through the airspace, it’s escort, a pair of king raptors, landing at Halsey field. You watch the whole procession kind of disinterestedly. You’d been briefed he was on the way for a rally somewhere in town, on the campaign trail for his chosen successor. You can’t really bring yourself to care- you’re not a huge fan of any of them.

The marine wyvern is surrounded by a hive of activity- most of the ground crew themselves marines, judging by the uniforms, though you can still make out the chief overseeing things with his marine counterpart, while CPO Brown has the air stairs wheeled into place for you when you power down, riding at the front of them like the captain of an old ship of the line. “Welcome back, sir, ma’am.” She says. “Need a hand out?”

You shake your head, but you can hear Danielle accept the offer of help. You head down the stairs after collecting your flight gear, standing there and waiting for the chief and Danielle.

“Cart’s on the way, sir.” The chief says. “And Admiral Marshal is waiting for you at ops.”

[] Admiral Marshal? Did he say what was going on?
[] So soon? What about your handover?
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>>3481339
>[x] Admiral Marshal? Did he say what was going on?
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>>3481339
>[] So soon? What about your handover? Did he say what was going on?
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>>3481339
>[X] Admiral Marshal? Did he say what was going on?
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>>3481339
>[x] So soon? What about your handover?
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>>3481339
>[x] Admiral Marshal? Did he say what was going on?
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>>3481339
Oh lawd, what’s going on?
Are the Chinese Ching Chonging again?
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>>3481339
>[X] Admiral Marshal? Did he say what was going on?
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>>3481339
Don't forget to mention we used WEP
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>>3481339
>[x] Admiral Marshal? Did he say what was going on?
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>>3481339
>>3481367
Oooh yeah. That's important.
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>>3481339
>[] Admiral Marshal? Did he say what was going on?
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>>3481339
>[] Admiral Marshal? Did he say what was going on?

Why do I feel that shit is about to go down.
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>>3481339
>[×] Admiral Marshal? Did he say what was going on?
>Mention WEP usage
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>>3481339
We just broke a hole through an entire air defense sector by ourselves. That’s a force multiplier so significant I can’t even begin to describe the impact. Imagine an entire wing of attack aircraft getting loose in the enemies rear and supply areas ... not to mention killing an AWACS (and nobody has enough of those to afford to lose one).

As far as skills go, Danielle proved she could jam radar guided missiles, plane radars, ground radars, and an AWACS—at the same time (if only for a short time). And while running the plane too. That’s damn impressive. Yes, Kyou has waaaay more power and that’s a legit argument for picking her up ... but damn. That was a beyond textbook deep strike.
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>>3481339
>[X] Admiral Marshal? Did he say what was going on?

Did WWIV just kick off?
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>>3481376
I'd also like to point out that Kyou and Lotus can both push the plane faster and harder. I'm on the Kyou train, if that wasn't completely obvious, but I think she's got some really good character interaction material.
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>>3481388

More likely a regional conflict if the old Strikers 2016 is anything to go by. The only problem is that it involves the People's Republic of China.
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>>3481339
>[x] Admiral Marshal? Did he say what was going on?
>Mention WEP.

>>3481390
I would be surprised if the AI wasn't using some of its idle time to analyze the merits of the three backseaters we chose.
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Ok, votes called! As a heads up, I'll be moving out Tuesday next week, so we may be able to do a thurs-sat thread, not sure yet, cos I'll be cleaning at least one day after all my stuff is moved out.
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>>3481400
Well from a purely combat perspective, Kyou is objectively the best character. Like, that's not even a contest. Lotus and Danielle both have their tricks but Kyou blows them out of the water completely. It's like comparing a match to a nuclear bomb. Not even a contest. Honestly, if I'm reading the hints that Ghost is dropping right, even SEAD and Strike missions that Lotus and Danielle would struggle with Kyou can just straight up brute force without much issue.

So if we're choosing for a purely combat purpose, Kyou is the clear choice.
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>>3481400
>our kid uses math to choose our waifu for us
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just saying I love how this backseater discussion come from waifuing to min-maxing our stat.
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>>3481411
That's not Quite right. The SEAD and SOCOM missions that Lotus or Danielle could do would be very difficult for kyou. She's very strong in a combat scenario, but her power is not precise. Rather than a match to a nuke, It's more Fire to a bucket of water. Whereas there are many uses for a bucket of water, you can't really do much but burn a thing with fire. It's incredibly destructive, however, it is REALLY good at burning things. Kyou is REALLY good at being a fire. But be careful, or you'll get burned.
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>>3481417
It's a little bit of column A) and a little bit of column B).
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>>3481411
That's just not true. SEAD is were Kyou does the worst.

- Kyou is a brick. Shoot her enough and she dies.
- Danielle is smoke and mirrors. You know she's there, but you just can't shoot her.
- Lotus is plane-stats up to eleven.
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>>3481426

HIPPIE POWERED UFO BEST END
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>>3481426
This is actually a really good assessment.
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>>3481426
I wouldn't describe an anti-inertial magic user with the word "brick"
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>>3481426
>Kyou is a brick. Shoot her enough and she dies.

From the hints Ghost is dropping it's more like she's a block of titanium/tungsten instead of a brick. I mean she dies if you shoot her enough but let's be honest, I think you're severely underestimating how much is ENOUGH.

>>3481421
It's more Fire to a bucket of water.

It's more like a multi-tool compared to a electronics screw-driver, considering she's got more than one power. Her shield is one, her physics breaking bullshit is another, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

>>3481431
This. Plus we didn't even come close to hitting her limit with that shield.

On top of that she's the most interesting, story wise and character wise, of the three, in my opinion.
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>>3481426
I would agree with the generalities of this, but would mention that she's a DED 'ARD brick. Yeah, you can break her with enough fire, but that's a LOT of fire. All told, I'd agree that SEAD is the role where Kyou is at her weakest compared to the others.
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I think the question is not how much they need to crack Kyou, it's how much they're gonna use. Which, if this flight was an indication, the answer is "all of it".
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>>3481445
I think that really depends on whether or not she can tank SAM hits all day like she can railgun hits. If she can then I'd actually argue she's better than Danielle since we've got the entire airspace focused on us while other folks complete other objectives. Not that that'll matter since we're most likely get Danielle as our Valkyrie wing-mate.
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>>3481431
The shield is her main-draw. The rest is just a bonus.

>>3481439
>I think you're severely underestimating how much is ENOUGH.
That's just you sucking her cock. There's no way we could've pulled off this mission as easily with her.

>On top of that she's the most interesting, story wise and character wise, of the three, in my opinion.
I disagree. The most interesting would be the Hippie instead of Thirstmaster.
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>>3481431

Same with the fact that her shield ate a 20-kilo slug going Hypersonic and didn't even flinch.
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>>3481456
Again, from the hints, I'm suspecting that "all of it" is "Not Enough."
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>>3481439
I really am truly curious about the extent of her inertia defeating power. Could we take our Wyvern out in full Beast Mode and pull a full speed, truly instantaneous turn without losing any momentum? The implications of her ability and just how strong she is combined with Merlins touch is an interesting thing to ponder.

>>3481460
eating Whisker-Lancer shots like they just.. didn't happen!
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>>3481459
>That's just you sucking her cock. There's no way we could've pulled off this mission as easily with her.

We won't know unless we pick her now will we?

> disagree. The most interesting would be the Hippie instead of Thirstmaster.

Lotus? Really? We'll have to agree to disagree then. And Kyou isn't a Thirstmaster so much as AGGRO AS FUCK, which is a hilarious counter balance to our laid back personality. And she's a wyvern-sexual/military hardware sexual. Calling it. Right now. So aggro as fuck hardware-sexual. That sounds like a lot more fun than thicc civvies and gym-bunny with undercover issues.
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>>3481462
But we’re GUESSING that she can tank more than we saw. We KNOW that Danielle can take the whole shooting match because we just proved it. That’s worth plugging into the equation at least.
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[x] Admiral Marshal? Did he say what was going on?

“Admiral Marshal?” You ask, kind of confused. “Did he say what was going on?”

“No, sir.” the chief says. “But he was out of uniform when he said it, and told me to tell you, as soon as you landed, to shower, change, and go to admin.”

“Huh.” You say, shrugging. “We ran war emergency up there.”

The chief smiles. “When don’t you? Alright, thanks for the heads up. You keep up like this though and the engine techs are going to want to kill you in your sleep. No offense, sir.”

You shake your head. “None taken.”

“Ah, I’ll keep a leash on them anyway.” She says, eyeballing the electric golf cart that’s sometimes used in place of the crew van around here. Neither of them ever leaves the pad, but the cart belongs to the wyvern ground crew on permanent duty here, where the crew van doesn’t really. You don’t recognize the driver as he pulls up, and you help Danielle take a seat on the rear-facing bench. She sits heavily, grinning up.

“Man, I think I’m going to have to take a nap before I get to the gym.” She says. “Or maybe just lunch and doze on the couch.”

You find yourself vaguely wishing you could do the same- at least, you’ve got a pleasant image of napping on the couch over at the vought house, right where the sun hits it through the patio door around this time of day. You dismiss it as quick as it comes- not going to happen right now, regardless.

Instead you both head to the locker room, where you shower and change back into your khakis. Danielle was done before you- she’s waiting out in the hall in civilian clothes, a pair of short, booty-hugging shorts and a loose t-shirt. She grins. “Decided to eat after hitting the gym.” She says. “I’ll head upstairs with ya.”

You nod, walking next to her on the way up. She seems relatively pleased. “I thought, for a minute, up there, you were going to try and run them out again. Glad you didn’t.” She says, pausing at the turn to the front doors. “I’ll see you later, eltee. Take it easy.”

You nod. “You too, commander.”

She laughs. “Danielle, please.” she says. “Later on.”

She turns left while you go straight, then turn to head upstairs, heading for the admiral’s office- which proves to be empty, other than his administrative assistant. “He’s over in the corner board room.” the man says, pointing down the hall. “He’s expecting you.”

You nod before walking down the hall and stepping through the open door. The admiral is very much in civilian attire- a pair of cargo shorts over crew socks pulled all the way up with a red polo on top. He’s off duty- or at least, he’s dressed like it- so you don’t salute. He smiles and gestures to the table in the center of the room. “Have a seat, son. I guess you know what this is. Coffee? Pop?”

[] I’d thought it was tomorrow, sir?
[] Selection, sir.
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>>3481479
>[] Selection, sir.
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>>3481479
>[x] Selection, sir.
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>>3481479
>[] Selection, sir.
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All right, here’s my two cents worth on our decision.

Morgan is clearly his mother’s son. He is calm, collected, and laser focused on the mission. He is exactly the kind of guy I would want running precision strikes.

He is not Frank. Frank kind of threw himself into battle with reckless abandon and relied on his talent and Merlin to keep both of them alive and the plane (mostly) intact. It nearly killed him on so many occasions I’d have to make a chart to remember them all. Sure, he did incredible work, but it’s clear that simply isn’t how Morgan is going to operate ... and that’s perfectly fine with me. Gives us a chance to mix things up.

So, Kyou. On the ground, having two people with wildly different personalities leads to a lot of fun and excitement. In the air, it gets people killed. Plane crews need to be matched with each other so well in personality that they are reading each other‘s minds (literally in this quest). Kyou is going to be a liability in the plane with us. She’s got incredible strength, but she is simply too used to being her own commander. Now, we may eventually be able to find a happy medium—but we do not have time to do that.

On the other hand, outside of the plane she is an incredible independent asset. Because of her power, we can basically turn her loose in a furball and expect her to come out in one piece (without us babysitting her) and with an impressive kill count. We still get to explore her aggressiveness issues because that remains a problem outside the cockpit too. In short, I absolutely want her to be a part of this quest, but I want her on our wing, not in the cockpit.

On Lotus, I just don’t see enough of an upside. She’s less powerful than Kyou and has no unique offensive or defensive capabilities that I’ve seen worthy of serious attention—she’s truly a passive strategic asset. And that is without even taking into account the personal and political problems. She shits out in us mid-war and we’re grounded.

So let’s ask for her as our air controller and put her in pathfinder strikers (I’m assuming they have such a thing). She leads us and Kyou into enemy territory blind, we turn Kyou loose on the CAP while we hit the radars, AAA/SAM sites, and any other strategic targets, and then she leads us out. We’d be a hell of an element.

Now getting that done is obviously more tricky. We do not have the rank or the influence to pull something like that. But Admiral Wells probably does. I think it is well worth taking a shot at getting to keep all three witches and forming a deep-strike-specialized element that gets to run all kinds of cool missions through and behind enemy lines. it also lets us get to explore the storylines of all three witches (like politics, Kyou’s ... enthusiasm, Lotus’s emotions in a war zone, etc.) while giving us the best chance of staying alive.

1/2
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>>3481479
>[x] Selection, sir.
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>>3481476
That's a fair point, I'll give you that.
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>>3481479
>[x] Selection, sir.
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>>3481494
On that note, Danielle has essentially made us impossible to hit at anything less than knife range unless they literally point an entire sector’s worth of radars at us. Kyou did a great job of deflecting railguns—but I firmly believe that not getting shot in the first place is by far the better policy. Moreover, it is really easy for people to forget that the modern war lives and dies on radar. We don’t just use radar for aerial warfare, we use it to locate and track ground elements as well. And then there is satellite radar’s – probably the most dangerous for naval assets because it makes the ocean a lot smaller than it would be otherwise with just search aircraft running around. And we know the Chinese have ASAT capabilities so we could very well be in a situation where the enemy has satellite-based radar and we do not. Being able to have essentially a radar cloaking device on board is a priceless asset. I am also very interested in exploring whether we can invert her radar capabilities – in other words, rather than jam radars, can she enhance them! That would be a cool path to explore new-skill wise. In short, I’m for Danielle in the back.

Now, if we can’t keep all three witches (or at least both Danielle and Kyou), then it’s a much closer choice in my mind. Without Kyou on the wing our hitting power is significantly reduced, and we’re left either running missions with other aircraft (increasing our chance of detection, and thereby decreasing our usefulness in deep strike missions) or truly doing hit-and-fades to make up for our lack of stopping power.

So I think it is worth taking a shot at all three (with Danielle as our backseater) if we can swing it. Add Merlin as our personal flag officer and I’d anticipate some cool shit in our future :-)

If we can’t swing that, then I’ll have to rethink my decision. But I say we try for the whole shooting match.
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>>3481479
>[X] Selection, sir.
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>>3481479
>[] Selection, sir.
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>>3481479
>[] Selection, sir. [Write in] What hit the fan to accelerate the plan sir?
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>>3481479
>[x] Selection, sir.
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>>3481479

>[] Selection, sir.
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>>3481479
>[] Selection, sir.
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>>3481494
>>3481502
Honestly, this sounds pretty good.
Kyou's deep magic reserves would also work well with whatever the fuck Merlin is trying to do with the variable Strikers to boot.

>>3481479
>[x] Selection, sir.
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>>3481502
Whoever we pick, I'd prefer we make a clean break from the others. I'd rather meet new characters, and it would feel kinda weird to not pick them but drag them along anyway.
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>>3481426

>Lotus is plane-stats up to eleven.

I'd like to touch on this point again, because given that Ghost hasn't contraindicated so, it means EVERY WYVERN SYSTEM.

Sensors, avionics, engines, durability, weapons. Then consider Best Aunt has made our plane her pet project. A Merlin Custom *pushed to eleven *. Anything we equip with Lotus is always going to push paper limits, EVERY TIME.

The sheer utility of a "plug and play" Witch should not be discounted so easily.

... Also, the slice of life Shenanigans will be great lol.
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>>3481502
My primary concern with Danielle has just raised it's head again, which is her stamina issues. She's way more exhausted after this flight than either Kyou or Lotus were after their flights, plus the exhaustion after her initial flight which we didn't push her nearly as hard in.

Secondly, from what Kyou was saying our dinner with her, we won't be getting her as a wing mate if we don't make this, since she'll be heading back to the fleet in order to continue her career.

Thirdly, we're pretty much guaranteed to get Danielle as a Valkyrie wing-mate in the future, with her taking Merlin up on her offer.

Fourthly, in regards to her aggro as fuck personality, she's not in charge up there, she can't even control the plane or shoot missiles or guns without our manually unlocking it for her, so that's not nearly as much of an issue as you're making it out to be.

>>3481524
Except from the dinner she's made it pretty clear that she's not really interested in that.
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>>3481525
I get that—but there’s things to like in each character and we’ve spent enough time with them it would be nice to explore those lines further. Not to mention Ghost made it pretty clear that Danielle at least is going to be in the quest through Merlin even if we pick one of the others.
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>>3481533
The amount of tired she gets for the amount of items she handles blocking at once is absolutely not a problem. Were we to run sortie after sortie after sortie, anyone would get tired from the G-forces and lack of sleep alone. There's no reason to believe this is any more tired than we ourselves are after a workout.
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I agree, Danielle's endurance is most certainly a problem. Its part of the reason why I am more for Lotus and Kyou. I don't want to be running a SEAD mission and have Danielle pass out on us, because then we would be in a right nasty pickle.
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>>3481533
>My primary concern with Danielle has just raised it's head again, which is her stamina issues.
Stam as addressed last time. Within a few minutes of clearing the cockpit she was completely normal.
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>>3481549

It should be noted that for Lotus we flew over 7,000-miles, used WEP like crazy, while doing heavy combat, and she didn't even seem winded.
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>>3481549
It was implied last time that she was putting up a front though. So take from that what you will.

>>3481543
Considering that Lotus wasn't nearly as tired after our flight with her, and she was handling stuff that was out of her-
>>3481555
Pretty much this.
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>>3481533
I definitely recognize the stamina issue, but we also fought a lot longer and against a lot more enemies than the others. Our Kyou run was cut way short and our Lotus run was just short period (the combat kart at least) so I’m not sure it’s an apples-to-apples comparison. Especially as we were tired both times too.

On keeping Kyou, I don’t think she’d turn down a personal request from you and Merlin both if there’s a war on. She knows we’d be fantastic as a team ( does anybody really think that the witches who aren’t flying with us on a particular mission are not watching their competition?). She’s also got the pull in her own forces to make that happen (I think).

Finally, I think you’re underestimating how much how important the backseater is in a military aircraft. And that’s in the real world, not here where the backseat is also literally the plane’s primary power source. In short, The idea that we would put a loose cannon in the back of the plane because we could limit how much damage she could do to us is not, I assert, a very good idea.
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Ok, votes called!
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>>3481541
So, consider a jammer-valk flying tight formation with FUCK-ALL shields, for example. Even more of a beat-stick to use to crack a target with, and still be able to take advantage of the bonuses Kyou brings for other mission profiles, for example.
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>>3481555
To clarify my post below in this point—the actual engagement was pretty brief. The approach was definitely longer than the rest of our mission to put together, but I have no way to judge at this stage how much of a power draw on the witch routine cruising is. It may very ver The approach was definitely longer than the rest of our mission to put together, but I have no way to judge at this stage how much of a power draw on the witch routine cruising is. It may very well be that Lotus showed truly superb stamina. My point is that I do not see Danielle’s stamina issues as a deal breaker. The chances of us having to do what we just did more than once a day is pretty low ...
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>>3481560
>On keeping Kyou, I don’t think she’d turn down a personal request from you and Merlin both if there’s a war on.
If war kicks off she's gonna have her own country to worry about.
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>>3481563
I think swapping Danielle and Kyou (putting Danielle in some insane Wild Weasel strikers that Sam Wells cooks up) is absolutely viable. It’s a close decision for me, and I’m not remotely concerned if anon wants to flip it around (and Danielle seemed to be pretty okay with the idea too—though I’m not sure how much of that was posturing, I think she has a slight...not Wendy-level mind you, a truly slight inferiority complex).
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>>3481566

Yeah, there was one or two times during Strikers '89 that we flew multiple sorties in one day.
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>>3481570
If there’s a war Japan doesn’t survive without the United States. They simply do not have the landmass (and therefore the production capabilities) that the US does, and on top of that – their infrastructure is all in conventional missile range.
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>>3481566

Well, I mean, to be fair, I think every girl has a potential break point. It's possible if we're cocky, the Chinese or whoever can just throw enough shit in the air, Kyou will run out of juice, and we don't really know when that will happen. Danielle is very good at her stuff but she also uses it a ton, we may end up in a bad way where there's just too much on us and she can't keep up. Lotus is a civilian, she may not be ready to deal with shit in wartime either. Nobody is actually perfect, no matter how much team Kyou tries to make her sound that way. I don't think it's necessarily a specific strike against Danielle though either.
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>>3481560
Seeing as how Kyou is a firey hothead and we're the cool collected one, I don't get where you think we'd be good as partners.

Nor why you keep bringing up "lets grab them all" because Merlin gets to pick who she wants after we do. We don't have nearly enough pull to try and convince anyone to have more than one stick around.
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>>3481560
You keep assuming that she's going to do damage to us or burn us out? Where are you getting that idea? Nothing Ghost has said in either '89 or 16 has put the blame on the witch for the issues that Frank experienced and Morgan MAY experience. At all.
>>3481563
This is exactly what we get if we pick Kyou. We get both Danielle and Kyou in the quest.

>>3481566
See I see her Stamina issues as a deal breaker. You're thinking of her as being able to do the same thing that Merlin could. She can't, she can jam radar and that's it. She can do it pretty well, but she can't do it for extended engagements, which WILL screw us over. She also doesn't do anything to the aircraft itself. So we're slower, don't turn well as well, have less endurance and weaker shields in order to...reduce the amount of time before they notice that we're there by a medium amount.

>>3481574
Yeah and I sure as hell expect to be sent out multiple times if we're running SEAD. So her stamina problems will become a factor.

>>3481580
>Nobody is actually perfect, no matter how much team Kyou tries to make her sound that way.

Kyou isn't perfect, she's just the best choice from a purely combat perspective. Plus her flaws have high potential to be fun to read and deal with.
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>>3481580
I agree. My thought was is that because all three have DIFFERENT weaknesses, that we could cover for each other.

Make Kyou independent so that her aggressiveness isn’t as much of a liability. Put Danielle in a safe cockpit where she can do her radar voodoo without having to try and fly at the same time (true she provides the juice, but we’ve got the stick). Put Lotus in a pathfinding, air control, and target marking role than minimizes her direct involvement in killing other human beings. Let Merlin play with two different kinds of strikers and our plane. Could be interesting.
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>>3481502
Except RADAR sats do not work like that
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>>3481586

I don't think her flaws are gonna be as fun as you think they are.
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>>3481587

The stamina becomes a major issue if we're running SEAD, we might have days where we wind up running two or three sorties. Give how Danielle seemed to be exhausted or at the very least somewhat drained at the end of one sortie, doing two or three might outright exhaust her and put us in a bind with no RIO and no magic bullshit ECM.
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>>3481587
Also, is there any technical reason we CAN’T plug Kyou and Danielle? I get that there are all kinds of personal reasons that could be a serious problem, but can it be done from a technical perspective? If so, we might have our solution. We literally pick the best backseater for that mission, and out the other in our wing.

I admit that it’s radical, and not something that would ever seriously be considered outside of a war. But if we are seriously about to go into battle against the Peoples Republic of China – who has a military larger that every NATO country put together — then it might get serious consideration.
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>>3481587
>Make Kyou independent so that her aggressiveness isn’t as much of a liability.

Her aggressiveness isn't a liability if she's in our backseat either.

Plus making a lot of assumptions that we're gonna get all three here. We only know that if we DON'T pick Danielle, we've got a good chance of getting her as a Valkyrie wingmate later. So there's a good possibility that we won't get either of the other two.
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[x] Selection, sir.

“Selection, sir.” You say. “And water, please.”

He grins. “We’re off duty son, you don’t have to call me sir. Here.” He hands you a bottle of cold water from the minifridge in the room, then takes a seat across from you. “And you’re right. They made the call to bump it up to now, just so we can get Lieutenant Sorensen flying that much sooner. Stupid, if you ask me, but it’s from my bosses, so here we are.” He smiles tiredly.

“So, before we get down to it, two things. First is that we know how tough a decision this is, and we know we’re asking you to pick a crewmate that’s going to be with you the rest of your navy career. A lot of the young men and women that have sat across this table from me since I took over haven’t come in here without some idea of the witch they’re going to fly with. The second is that we get it’s a hell of a decision, so it’s no stress.” he grins. “As you can probably tell. I’m headed into town after this, and then taking the family to Vegas for the weekend. But there’s no paperwork, nothing to sign, nothing to read, nothing. All you do is you tell me, I call it in to the desk, then they call her.”

You nod as he continues.

“I’m not going to sit here and bore you son, but if you need someone to talk to, well-” He shrugs. “I’ve commanded this school since two thousand eight. I’ve seen about twenty crews through in that time, navy and marine corps. I’ve seen and heard a lot of things from a lot of pilots, and if you want advice, I’m right here. Now that I’ve bored you to tears, do you have a decision now, or do you wanna talk about them, some?”

[] I’ve got a decision, sir.
[] I think I’d like to talk it over.
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>>3481596
But, as anon has said, she bounced back damn fast. Even quick turnarounds have crew rest built in, however brief.

Also, if we ran three sorties like the mission we just ran we would be knocking out the air defense capabilities of an entire front. I seriously doubt we will be called upon to do that—and if we are, then we are definitely going to need radar jamming.
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>>3481598

I'm pretty sure Ghost has said clearly there will be no triangles, or any other kinds of shapes here.

>>3481600

For most voters it seems like it is.
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>>3481586
>damage to us or burn us out?
Because her personality is going to get in the way, if I read him right.

>We get both Danielle and Kyou in the quest.
Unlikely. The Super Striker isn't ready yet and most likely won't for a while.

>reduce the amount of time before they notice that we're there
She also makes us impossible to shoot.

>>3481598
Mindmeld.
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>>3481604
>[] I’ve got a decision, sir.
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>>3481533
>that's not nearly as much of an issue as you're making it out to be.
No, that is absolutely an issue. Actually, it makes it worse, because now instead of being able to act on her aggression she has to ask permission. And I don’t know if you’ve ever known someone who was highly aggressive, but having to ask someone to do something is a surefire way to trigger that aggression in a direction you don’t want
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>>3481604
>[] I’ve got a decision, sir.
Let's get this over with.
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>>3481604
>[x] I think I’d like to talk it over.
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>>3481604
>[] I think I’d like to talk it over.
I’d like to run the ideas I’ve set out by Merlin if anon is interested. Otherwise I’m fine with proceeding to a decision.
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>>3481604
>[x] I think I’d like to talk it over.
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>>3481604
>[] I think I’d like to talk it over.

ASK THE GM, OH MY GOD
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>>3481604
>[x] I think I’d like to talk it over.
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>>3481604
>[x] I’ve got a decision, sir.

>>3481598
Yeah, they've explicitly said mixing crews that doesn't work.
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>>3481604
>[x] I think I’d like to talk it over.

My decision probably won't change but I do love information
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>>3481608
>She also makes us impossible to shoot.
Not impossible to shoot, just hard to get a radar lock on. She's already said she can't do anything about fusion sensors or heaters.

>>3481598
Mindmelding and AI issues. You basically have to completely reset the AI and all the data it's learned over it's lifetime, which completely defeats the point of it.
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>>3481587
I think of the three options we have, Danielle is the only one that is guaranteed to show up regardless of our choice. She already said that she's interested in Merlin's Striker project, and if she's prototyping those for Merlin she'll likely have to follow along with us as we've snapped up Merlin to maintain our jet.

Kyou stated that she'll likely go back to the fleet if not chosen, and Lotus is a potential pick for the USMC pilot.

Both enhance our ability to kill shit in the plane, it's just a choice of if you prefer Fiery Aggression paired with overt magical buffs (Shields, guns and missiles), or Slight Pacifism combined with more subtle upgrades.

Or if you prefer Asians or Thicc Blonde Busty and Blue-eyed.
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>>3481612
I’ve been stuck on military planes with personalities that didn’t jive with each other. It wasn’t a lot of fun. And we know we’re going to be on the bleeding edge.

Don’t get me wrong, we can make Kyou work. I’m simply looking for the best package deal that gives us a fun quest while fulfilling my personal desire to also kick ass in the real world sense (or as real world as is it possible to get with sparkly bullshit).
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>>3481604
>[] I think I’d like to talk it over.
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>>3481626
Heaters are knifes in a railgun-fight.
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>>3481604
>[X] I think I’d like to talk it over.
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>>3481626
That’s what they said. They also said a lot of shit in ‘89 that Merlin proved wrong. I’d at least like to ask her.
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>>3481604
>[X] I think I’d like to talk it over.
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>>3481604
>[] I’ve got a decision, sir.
Just wanna get it over with desu
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>>3481604
>[x] I think I’d like to talk it over.

I still am curious as to how Kyou even got here in the first place. The Navy throwing it's second most top secret program after the SSBNs directly into the hands of the second most powerful person of a foreign government, who is not a US citizen, seems like a nightmare for the spooks.
Not to mention the politics and horrendous papparazzi shit we'll have to deal with if we end up there....
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>>3481640
Yeah, It has baffled me as well.
That on top of how bullshit powerful she is makes me think Ghost just really wanted a japanese imperial family member backseater for some reason.
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>>3481635
Yeah but they're not gonna sideline us AND Sorensen while Merlin runs the numbers to see if we can run both of them in there. Plus it'd be insulting to Danielle and Kyou don't you think?

>>3481631
Yeah but she can't do anything about Sensor-fusion or datalinks either so all they need to do is get ONE lock on us and the rest of them have it. I just don't think it's usefull enough to justify over Kyou's blatant power.

>>3481628
>>3481612
They would not have put us together if our personalities were fundamentally incompatible in the air. We'd just need to work on working together, which is what the rest of the work up period is all about.

>>3481640
Congress has been debating on and on for years in universe about selling the Wyvern to the Japanese who are our closest allies, bar none, in Universe. So it's not really beyond imagination that the spooks have been preping for that since the discussion first came up.
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>>3481640
Our relationship with the Japanese military has kinda been that way. We’ve sold them designs of some of our latest stuff that we haven’t given to anyone else ... I can see it happening. Though I share your concerns.
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>>3481647
Yeah, I’m still hella suspicious of Kyou. Everything about her seems perfect, so she’s GOT to have some major downside.

“Hurr durr ShE’s AgGrEsSiVe” is not a major downside
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>>3481640
They've been allies since WWIII. The Crown Princess is married to Jessica Bishop.

And apparently the Government has been in talks with them about getting their own Wyverns.
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>>3481635
Here's the relevant post.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/3345657/#p3348890

>>3481640
>>3481647
Read both this Ghost post and the next one
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/3423499/#p3431994
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>>3481612
>>3481628

Just been lurking in the thread, but your posts kinda stood out here. Most of my reason for choosing Kyou over the other is specifically for her aggression, and I wanted to know why you guys feel it's going to be such a negative. I agree that it'll be a point of friction, but she showed total willingness to obey our commands. I think her eagerness to get aggressive would be a good way to encourage us from getting into a rut of, well, total nonaggression. Daniel even voiced her concerns about that out of the plane, though she didn't say anything while in the air.

I guess where I keep coming back to, though, is the whole mind meld situation. If aggression is the primary concern with Kyou, well it's one of the only concerns we can actually do anything about, y'know? Either passively through the meld, or actively by interacting with each other. I see vague personality traits like aggression as really a nonissue - I'm far more interested in things like powers or possibilities for alternatives, since those are things we can't change at all. Sure, there's a risk that the war starts the second we say 'go' and every is awful forever, but isn't that sort of bet-hedging something we've been chastised for in-quest more than once?
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>>3481648
I think if either of them were insulted that would make my decision for me. In the military you put country before self. Period.
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>>3481648
>They would not have put us together if our personalities were fundamentally incompatible in the air
No, that’s fucking bullshit. They absolutely would stick two wholly incompatible personalities together if they thought it could cause some sort of magic.
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>>3481650
But it was specifically mentioned that we refused to sell them Wyverns.
>>3481651
My thoughts exactly.
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>>3481604
>[x] I think I’d like to talk it over.
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>>3481651
>>3481663
Yeah but it's Ghost though. If the were SNEEKI-BREEKI shit type drawbacks, there'd be hints of it outside of "There are not hints of it."
>>3481657
>I guess where I keep coming back to, though, is the whole mind meld situation. If aggression is the primary concern with Kyou, well it's one of the only concerns we can actually do anything about, y'know?

This is exactly my thoughts on it.

>>3481660
>No, that’s fucking bullshit.

Ghost has pointed out time and time again via the Admiral and Merlin and our beloved Trolling Sibling that a Wyvern mind-meld is too expensive to get wrong. So that says to me that they wouldn't put two completely incompatible personalities in the damn plane.
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>>3481657
The problem is, a little aggression is good. But if it’s the only downside, then either A) it’s not a little aggression, B) it would cause her to be the boring, safe choice, or C) both. And more than that, I worry that players will start to see Kyou as a hammer and everything as a nail. “Lmao, she’s invincible, she can do anything. Let’s just go balls to the wall and dive straight into the teeth of the tiger.” And yeah, that works.

Right up until it doesn’t
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>>3481657
And THAT is why I’m not going to be butt-hurt if anon chooses Kyou. I prefer Danielle, but I at least try to be a reasonable anon.
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>>3481672
Good point.
The Chinese would be braindead if they weren't already probably roughly aware of how strong Kyou's shield is.
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>>3481657
>and I wanted to know why you guys feel it's going to be such a negative.
Because it's the polar opposite of Morgan.
>I think her eagerness to get aggressive would be a good way to encourage us from getting into a rut of, well, total nonaggression.
The non-aggression is rooted on anon as much as Morgan. All sticking a fang out and hair aflame backseater in our head is going to do is cause pointless friction.
>If aggression is the primary concern with Kyou
General thought is that the aggression is only the known drawback. Despite what's been shown, Ghost himself has said they're all competitive. So either the others are much better than they appear, or Kyou is much worse.
>>3481671
>there'd be hints of it outside of "There are not hints of it."
She was very opaque and all 'I can't tell you everything" several times.
>>3481660
Definitely. They're fishing for that magic combo. And she won't necessarily have gone through the same vetting process with her background.
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>>3481680
Well, I was leaning less as a deliberate trap and more going in over our head relying on Kyou to pull us out. And then her shield breaks and now we’re balls deep inside a hornet’s nest of fighters, SAMs and DingDong-21’s
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>>3481672

I can totally agree that it's not her ONLY downside - hell, she's the only person we flew with where we exhibited the signs of Frank's gnome stuff afterwards. But weren't we specifically told in character by our sister (?) to stop trying to figure out ulterior motives/hidden agendas/shadowrunning in general? I get the fear of the unknown, but we're gonna be hit with hidden downsides and plot twists no matter who we choose.

As for seeing her as a hammer - what's to stop players from overrelying on anyone else's skillset? We could outfly Lotus' crazy endurance if we get too used to it, and we could get into a real nasty situation whenever Danielle's jamming fails just as easily as relying on a shield and lack of inertia.

I dunno, at some point it's just personal preference. Everything I'm typing, I sit back and reread, and I can perfectly see these same arguments as against Kyou and for someone else. This early in the quest, it's nothing but almost baseless assumptions on every side. I don't think Kyou's apparent lack of a major downside should be taken into account, really. No matter who we go with, there's gonna be issues. But that just makes this all circular, doesn't it? Who knows, I'm 99% voting Kyou, but I won't be too upset if someone else wins. Maybe slightly salted if it's Lotus, but I'd get over it in a thread or two.
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Ok, votes called!
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>>3481672
> “Lmao, she’s invincible, she can do anything. Let’s just go balls to the wall and dive straight into the teeth of the tiger.” And yeah, that works.

Well that's like half the point of sticking her in a Wyvern with us. She's strong and aggressive, we're laid-back and highly tactical and technical.

Strength+Tactics+Technique=Awesome

>>3481690
>She was very opaque and all 'I can't tell you everything" several times.

I am like 100% sure that's in regards to her sparkly shenanigans and the face beneath the mask, since that kind of "LOL TRAP OPTION IT'S ESPIONAGE" thing really isn't Ghost's style. Planefag or Merc maybe. But not Ghost.
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>>3481672

This is my primary concern with team Kyou, in that A( everybody (vocally) pro-her somehow seems certain she is actually invincible, which is weak storytelling and I don't think Ghost would go for that - there will be some shenanigans so we have to think about our choices otherwise why the fuck are we here he can just write of novel. And B( that, how "safe' we are in the plane aside, her political baggage or personality conflict won't be just as much of a pain in the ass as any other character.

However, I agree with >>3481628, we can make any pick work and nobody should quit if their waifu-in-training doesn't win. The way I see it, every character will have drama, and will have cool upsides and probably very tense downsides or low moments we'll have to figure our way out of. No choice is actually "objectively" superior, you should vote with whoever you like best, and want to see more of.
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>>3481690

See the non-aggression being as much anon as Morgan is half the point of getting an aggressive personality in our ear - it gives Ghost a direct line to nudge us back on course if we start getting TOO safe. Remember how our sister met with us in the kitchen and specifically referenced all the scaremongering about witch politics that was going on for like 2 weeks prior? The ability to keep us from flying in, do the objective, fly out without crazy deus ex machina traps or surprises on every flight is valuable in my mind.
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>>3481695
Except Dani and Lotus’s downsides are consistently mentioned. We are well aware of what they are metawise. Meanwhile the general assumption is that Kyou”s shield will ALWAYS HOLD and she’ll ALWAYS be able to use this nebulous secret power to save our skins.

In regards to shadowrunning, that was specific to the Matron bullshit. I should clarify that when I say I’m suspicious of Kyou, I’m not talking about me thinking she’s not mostly on the level or is secretly trying to harvest our seed for SUPER WITCHGNOME BABIES. I’m just suspicious of the catch. As >>3481690 pointed out. It’s been stated that all three are roughly equal. But from what’s been shown so far, Kyou is the obvious, no-brainer “you a dumb if you don’t choose her” choice. So either the others are significantly better than applied, or something nasty is waiting in Kyou’s swept wings
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>>3481708
>A( everybody (vocally) pro-her somehow seems certain she is actually invincible

I don't think she's actually invincible, and I don't think a lot of the rest of us do either. I just think anon is vastly underestimating how strong she is, especially considering we didn't get a full flight with her. You're absolutely right that Isekai protag tier stronk would be hella bad story-telling, and I don't think she's BEAT EVERYONE STRONK. I do think she's much stronger than we've seen so far though, and that's strong enough. I mean we didn't even get to the point where she reached her shield limit in that engagement and that's one of her major draws. And she took an entire air defense force's worth of stuff on it and wasn't even winded.

But I'm sorry if it came off that I think she's invincible, because I don't.
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[x] I think I’d like to talk it over.

You frown a little. “I think I’d like to talk it over, sir.”

He nods, leaning back in his chair. “I’d wondered if you were going to want to. There’s a lot of talent and skill with those three girls, I can see why it’s such a tough choice.” He smiles. “That’s pretty normal, honestly. No one ever comes in here with a decision they’re entirely sure on when they sit down and think about it. So who do you want to talk about? I’ll warn you I’ve only got their dossiers and the observer reports on your flights to go on.” He pauses. “Well, and what your sisters have said. Commander Bishop-“ he pauses. “Uh, your older sister, I mean. Stasya- she said she’d like to make it down, but she’s having problems with one of her witches and can’t. She’s been following the whole process from your first flight.”

It’s a shame to hear- you’re surprised she’s been following your progress, but reflecting on it you don’t know why. Of any of your sisters, she was always the most protective of you, though her and Natalya often seemed to compete for the title.

[] Danielle, sir. I’m not sure about her for a Wyvern.
[] Kyou, sir. She seems too aggressive to make a good match
[] Lotus, sir. I’m not sold on her with the mission set we’re looking at.
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>>3481734
>[] Kyou, sir. She seems too aggressive to make a good match
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>>3481734
>[X] Kyou, sir. She seems too aggressive to make a good match
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>>3481734
>[x] Kyou, sir. She seems too aggressive to make a good match
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>>3481734
>Kyou, sir. She seems too aggressive to make a good match
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>>3481734
>[] Kyou, sir. She seems too aggressive to make a good match
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>>3481734
>[] Kyou, sir. She seems too aggressive to make a good match
way, way, way too aggressive.
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>>3481734
>[x] Kyou, sir. She seems too aggressive to make a good match
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>>3481734
We ought to ask all three questions. Fairs fair.
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>>3481734
>[X] Kyou, sir. She seems too aggressive to make a good match
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>>3481734
>[X] Kyou, sir. She seems too aggressive to make a good match
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>>3481752
This is presumably just the ordering, not the only question.
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>>3481734
>[x] Kyou, sir. She seems too aggressive to make a good match

What's up with this politics?
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>>3481734
>[x] Kyou, sir. She seems too aggressive to make a good match
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>>3481734
>[x] Danielle, sir. I’m not sure about her for a Wyvern.
We just flew with her figure it might make sense to ask about her first.

>she was always the most protective of you, though her and Natalya often seemed to compete for the title.
Watch, one of them will show up out of no where once we make our decision and have a 'chat' with our SIO.
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>>3481734
>[] Danielle, sir. I’m not sure about her for a Wyvern.
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>>3481771
>Watch, one of them will show up out of no where once we make our decision and have a 'chat' with our SIO.
Sucker bet.
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>>3481771
>>3481777

I mean, Maman will literally materialize out of the shadows behind them to say hi.
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>>3481786

That would be scary as hell.
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>>3481788
Maman existing in the first place is scary as hell.
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>>3481786
But remember Maman was always hands off. Now her former teammates on the other hand...
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>>3481786
She’s already here. She’s has to be. No way she’d let such an important decision go by ...
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>>3481734
>[] Lotus, sir. I’m not sold on her with the mission set we’re looking at.

TELL ME MORE
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>>3481807
Timetable got pushed up. Might not have made it in yet.
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>>3481807
>>3481788
>>3481793
Morgan: *stares off into blank space, not unlike a cat ,as the hairs on the back of his arms and neck rise
Admiral Marshall: Lt. are you feeling alright?
Morgan: I sense something....a presence I've not felt since....
Admiral Marshall: Lt.?
Morgan: My mother is here, I have to go. Dives out the window.
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Ok, votes called!
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>>3481822

Morgan had to work very hard to be the very best at hide and seek. But if you lose, Maman is very disappointed in you.
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>>3481817
She probably pushed the timetable up so she’d be in the area ...
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>>3481734
>[x] Kyou, sir. She seems too aggressive to make a good match
>[x] Lotus, sir. I’m not sold on her with the mission set we’re looking at.

These two I feel I don't know enough about.
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>>3481829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNhYIlHb9Wc

This face, right here.
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[x] Kyou, sir. She seems too aggressive to make a good match

“Kyou, sir” You respond without hesitation. “She seems too aggressive to make a good match.”

He smiles. “No faith in the psych board, huh? I guess that’s fair. I used to doubt them an awful lot too, but those guys are very good at what they do. Anyway, Her imperial highness Kyou..” he shakes his head and sighs. “What a mess. She’s probably overqualified for the job, to be honest. We noticed her intercom chatter too, and you’re right, she is very aggressive.” He pauses. “She’s been known as ‘the wolf princess’ in the IJN since she hit their academy, just about.”

“I feel like that could be an issue.” You say, and he smiles.

“The son of the mother of night having a problem with a hair-on-fire wild thing? Color me surprised, son!” He laughs, then shakes his head. “I understand, but based on what I’ve seen, I think she’d complement you. She’s displayed an iron discipline her entire career, even when things haven’t gone her way, like her attempts to enter the IJN’s tomcat force. I’m not going to try to sell you on any of them, though, son. She’s a fire-breathing valkyrie, for sure, but she’s still imperial family. Her dad is next in line for the throne, and her brother right behind him. There will be a lot of attention headed your way with her, and you’re going to be expected to be outstanding all the time.” He pauses. “Though, for you, I guess that’s probably not too far off of how you live already.”

You shake your head with a slight smile. “Not really, sir.”

He laughs. “I figured as much. There’s going to be a lot more press, espeically early on, but we’re not going to allow her status to interfere with combat, if that comes to it. Frankly, son, as strong as she is, when the SCS blows open, you can expect to be the first there and the last to leave, with a lot of work inbetween.”

He nods. “Honestly, between you and I, there’s a lot more Wyvern crews on the west coast right now than there normally are. And the corps just approved funds for another pair of drakes past Sorensen, so they’ll have six. That’s part of the reason for the speed up.”

You nod.

1/2
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“Anyway, son, back to your question, it may be worth noting that the after action of your engagement indicated she’s got stuff she’s hiding.” He frowns. “I’d be worried, with your father’s history, but we’re honestly not sure what the deal is there. Again, the matrons wouldn’t have approved it if they felt there was unacceptable risk there- especially not with the mother of night breathing down their neck about it.”

He pauses. “Your mamma is scary, son.” He says after a second. “But she knew about Kyou before the flight and didn’t say anything to can it.” Another shrug. “Anyway, that’s enough from me. You wanna talk about any of the other ones, or was that your only hang up about her?”

[] That was my hang-up, sir. I want to fly with Kyou.
[] No, sir, I’m still curious about Danielle. SEAD doesn’t seem like a fitting role for the Wyvern.
[] Sir, I still don’t know about Lotus. How is she useful with GPS and navigation aids?
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>>3481873
>[] No, sir, I’m still curious about Danielle. SEAD doesn’t seem like a fitting role for the Wyvern.
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>>3481873
>[] That was my hang-up, sir. I want to fly with Kyou.
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>>3481873
>[x] No, sir, I’m still curious about Danielle. SEAD doesn’t seem like a fitting role for the Wyvern.
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>>3481873
>[] That was my hang-up, sir. I want to fly with Kyou.
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>>3481869
>Frankly, son, as strong as she is, when the SCS blows open, you can expect to be the first there and the last to leave, with a lot of work inbetween.
Seems Kyou's raw power is counterbalanced by us being on Morgan Must Die difficulty with her, then.
I dig it.
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>>3481869
>[x] No, sir, I’m still curious about Danielle. SEAD doesn’t seem like a fitting role for the Wyvern.
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>>3481873
>[X] That was my hang-up, sir. I want to fly with Kyou.
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>>3481873
>[] No, sir, I’m still curious about Danielle. SEAD doesn’t seem like a fitting role for the Wyvern.
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>>3481873
>[x] No, sir, I’m still curious about Danielle. SEAD doesn’t seem like a fitting role for the Wyvern.
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>>3481873
>[] No, sir, I’m still curious about Danielle. SEAD doesn’t seem like a fitting role for the Wyvern.

>first in and last to leave
That's a good way to start Tanana 2.0
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>>3481873
>[X] That was my hang-up, sir. I want to fly with Kyou.
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>>3481873
>[x] Sir, I still don’t know about Lotus. How is she useful with GPS and navigation aids?
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>>3481873
>[] No, sir, I’m still curious about Danielle. SEAD doesn’t seem like a fitting role for the Wyvern.

I’m for Danielle right now but this is a VERY legit question.
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>>3481873
>[] Sir, I still don’t know about Lotus. How is she useful with GPS and navigation aids?
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>>3481873
>[] That was my hang-up, sir. I want to fly with Kyou.
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>>3481891
Welcome to the military, where the only reward for being good at your job is doing more of it. That kind of power is NEEDED in a war, and a concern about the possibility of MAYBE something bad happening? Not a good enough reason to short the Navy an aircrew as nasty as we could be together.
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>>3481873
>[] Sir, I still don’t know about Lotus. How is she useful with GPS and navigation aids?
Hold on, I thought we were giving everyone a fair shake first.
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>>3481904
Hear hear.
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>>3481873
>[] Sir, I still don’t know about Lotus. How is she useful with GPS and navigation aids?
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>>3481873
>[] Sir, I still don’t know about Lotus. How is she useful with GPS and navigation aids?

I'm going to vote Kyou as backseat, but I'm curious.
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>>3481902
We're in a ghost quest. You know what "maybe" something bad happens really means.
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>>3481873
>[] That was my hang-up, sir. I want to fly with Kyou.
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>>3481873
>[X] No, sir, I’m still curious about Danielle. SEAD doesn’t seem like a fitting role for the Wyvern.
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>>3481873
>[] Sir, I still don’t know about Lotus. How is she useful with GPS and navigation aids?
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>>3481904
Yeah, me too.
You really want Kyou, huh Ghost?
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>>3481913
No. We don't. You're just shadowrunning. And Ghost has REPEATEDLY smacked us over the head with a metaphorical rolled up newspaper through various characters about doing precisely that.
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>>3481913
Us almost dying because we made a choice that lead to us almost for certain dying? Getting daughteru's? Saving all the people forever and winning Berlin?

We're at least much more likely to survive all of those things with Kyou in the back.
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>>3481873
>[x] No, sir, I’m still curious about Danielle. SEAD doesn’t seem like a fitting role for the Wyvern.

>>3481924
If we had chosen someone else for the previous vote he'd of given the option to fly with them instead and changed our question in regards to Kyou for this vote.
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>>3481926

Agreed, Kyou can also give Newton the bird by working with no interia.
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>>3481873
>[] That was my hang-up, sir. I want to fly with Kyou.
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>>3481873
Ghost man, let me just say that I absolutely LOVE the fact that you try to clear stupid things up in character.

You've done it consistently too, starting in last quest so more power to you man.
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>>3481934
At seems silly. I voted for her previously because I wanted to get his perspective on her first, nothing more. That shouldn't give her ability to bypass the normal voting process.
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>>3481938
He puts signs up and notices other things and they don't listen until it is LITERALLY bashed over their head in character by someone with AU-THOR-ITAHY.

>>3481941
He's doing it so that if there's enough people REALLY want Kyou, she'd get it and this part could move forward with the plot. He'd do the same thing if we put Danielle first or Lotus first. Like if there was a HUGE majority for Kyou, like 15-8, well then why delay the vote at all?
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>>3481941
Again, if we had asked about someone else we'd of had the option to bypass the 'normal voting process'.
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Ok, votes called!

I know we're running late, but there is a hard point I want to get to before we stop tonight. I'm going to guess all of you can guess what that is.
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>>3481946
>had the option to bypass the 'normal voting process'
*for them.
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>>3481945

Well, the democratic problem comes in at the next vote then. If team Kyou stays strong, but voters split between "fair shake" and "shit I need to lock in Danielle now" then we may end up with the "this person doesn't actually win majority and we're locked in anyway" that will cause undue tension. The for-real vote should not be rushed and be on an even footing.

Like, I'll tell you (and Ghost) right now, I want to vote for Lotus to go in the backseat, but I voted for Danielle's choice just now because I felt that was more likely to win and I don't Kyou locked in prematurely.
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>>3481938
I haven't been a fan, honestly. It feels, not railroad-y, but kinda pushy almost. Let us come to our own conclusions. Misinformation, that's fine to clear up, but speculation and theory crafting is part of the fun. The only thing that really bugged me though was when Morgan blurted out that stuff to someone else without prompting.
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>>3481949
Thanks ghost, just want to say that you rock for putting up with all this back and forth as well as you have.
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>>3481959
>speculation and theory crafting
Until it crosses a line and becomes actively paranoid idiocy. Which happens VERY easily in these threads. Need I remind you of how ridiculous the "muh Matron plants" crowd got? We literally couldn't make any decisions without wailing and gnashing of teeth over asinine shadowruns pulled straight from anons' asses.
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>>3481959
>It feels, not railroad-y, but kinda pushy almost.

I think it's more Ghost clearing up things in character that he feels like he didn't convey well enough and thus people are misinterpreting them. Like the matron plant bullshit. We're laughing about it now, but it was an all consuming paranoia for the first few threads until he came down and cleared everything up with Ana's info dump.
>>3481970
>Until it crosses a line and becomes actively paranoid idiocy.

EXACTLY.
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>>3481958
I was worried about the same thing. Ideally, we'll get both of them in one post, with whoever wins first.
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>>3481958
I'm planning to do the same thing for Lotus next vote for the same reason.
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[x] No, sir, I’m still curious about Danielle. SEAD doesn’t seem like a fitting role for the Wyvern.

You shake your head. “That was my only hang up about her, sir, but I still want to ask about Danielle. SEAD seems like a strange role for a Wyvern.”

He nods. “It did to me too, at first. But it makes sense to the navy. Even the tomcats are carrying bombs these days, son, and it’s too expensive to do like the airforce is trying to do with the eagles and raptors and hold them back to only ever fight other planes. Multirole is the future of combat aviation, like it or not.”

You nod. “Yessir, but SEAD?”

“Well, son, look at it from the navy’s point of view. A wyvern is fast, it’s stealthy, it’s got a wizard ECM suite and with the right witch, can paralyze air defense networks and kill them easily. You just did it yourself. That strike would have taken a squadron of specialists, or a couple burkes and ticos slinging tomahawks. Either that or a pair of witches like Commander Peterson, and we don’t have enough to go around as is.” He shakes his head. “Never enough of what you want, always too much of everything else. Anyway, any girl you fly with had better get used to multirole work, son. You’re too expensive to not fly.”

You nod- it makes sense. “So SEAD would be our primary mission?”

“Along with everything else a wyvern is expected to do.” He says. “SEAD, hole punching like you just did, strikes, air superiority- Just because the commander is a wild weasel doesn’t mean that’s all you’ll be doing. None of them are ever gonna be all one mission set.”

[] That’s all I needed to hear, sir. I want to fly with Danielle.
[] I think I’d still rather fly with Kyou, sir.
[] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.
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>>3481986
>[] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.
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>>3481986
>[] I think I’d still rather fly with Kyou, sir.
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>>3481986
>[X] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.
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>>3481959

>The only thing that really bugged me though was when Morgan blurted out that stuff to someone else without prompting.

I think it's super important that questrunners give their player character a voice and personality beyond the user-picked options. A lot of quests over the years have had main characters that blurt out the selection word for word, then the scene has other people reacting to it before we're given another choice. The best storytelling moments come from when the author gets into a flow and a natural conversation results. Now we haven't exactly had a ton of opportunities for that yet, especially since we're meeting all these characters for the first time, but I think Ghost slam-dunked that scene. It was heavy handed to be sure, the 'conversation' was more a monologue, but I'm glad he was able to at least get some characterization out of it.
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>>3481986
>[] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.
Get everyone on equal footing.
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>>3481986
>[] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.

Despite ( or perhaps because) the fact that I honestly haven’t given Lotus Much thought compared to the other two, I am genuinely interested in hearing the answer to this question because it is going to tell me what I have missed.
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>>3481986
>[X] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.
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>>3481986
>[X] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.
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>>3481986
[] I think I’d still rather fly with Kyou, sir.
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>>3481986
So, as anon was discussing above, should I just get my vote in to be sure, or should I risk it with curiosity?
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>>3481986
>[] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.
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>>3481986
>[x] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.
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>>3481986
>[] I think I’d still rather fly with Kyou, sir.
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>>3481986
>[x] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.
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>>3481986
>[] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.

>>3481999
Doesn't look like much of a risk. Might as well see the blurbs through entirely, we're 2/3rds of the way there at this point.
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>>3481986
>[X] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.

Does...this really need to be a vote? It's getting late, Ghost could just start work on this now, then we can end with the big vote.
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>>3481992
We have to remember that this is a story. Let’s be honest, this conversation would never ever take place in the real world. All three of the ladies out rank us, and it would be completely inappropriate for us to express any doubt in their capabilities in front of a superio all three of the ladies out rank us, and it would be completely inappropriate for us to express any doubt in their capabilities in front of a flag officer. But, this is fiction – which is why this can be fun. Real war just sucks
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>>3481999
You can either wait a bit to see the voting pattern, or play it safe. The pattern looks to be asking more questions though.
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>>3481986
[] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.

AHHHHHH
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>>3481986
>[X] I think I’d still rather fly with Kyou, sir.
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>>3481986
>[x] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.
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>>3481986
>[X] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.
>>3482009
>>3482012
yea, should have lurked moar
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>>3481986
>[x] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.

Ghost, you hurt me, but I feel like the players are doing good and sticking to our fair and balanced breakfast.
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>>3481986
>[] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.
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>>3482010

It's a common thing I've noticed on 4chan quests, compared to akun or forums. Or play-by-post really, almost the same thing. I feel like runners split their shit up into small chunks because of the character limit, and it becomes habit. Really it could've been a >fly now, with a second followup vote of who, going against a bulk >questions pls. I assume that whenever softball choices are tossed out, though, that they're being prewritten while we vote. Seems to be the standard at least.
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>>3481986
>[X] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.
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>>3481986
>[] I think I’d still rather fly with Kyou, sir.
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>>3481986
>[] I think I’d still rather fly with Kyou, sir.
Stop dragging this out
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>>3481986
>[x] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.
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>>3482051

Probably wouldn't hurt, besides we get to learn how helpful Lotus could be.
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>>3482051
Hey, fairs fair. Let’s put everything on the table. Some of us are still open to all the options, even if we’re currently in favor of one or two witches over the others.
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Ok, votes called!
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>>3482067

Well, time for the money shot.
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[x] What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.

You nod. “What about Lotus, sir? Her talents don’t seem to lend themselves to a mission the same way.”

He chuckles. “You wouldn’t have said that if you’d have seen the USSOCOM observers in there.” He says. “Part of her draw is in case of a war- a real one, I mean, we expect to lose GPS and a lot of navigational satellites. And she can find you any point on land or sea, on demand. That’s a unique talent, son. And she’s got the talent to push that plane to it’s paper limits, which is impressive on it’s own. It’s part of the reason Lockmart loves her so much, she makes them look amazing, every flight. She did it for you, too, if you think about it. Making Elmendorf AFB after your furball over the ATR shouldn’t have been possible, you should have been forced to recover at Nome, and even then on vapor. “ He shakes his head. “SOCOM was about drooling at the prospect- a drake of their very own for anything they need one for, instead of having to ask us for one every time.”

“So we’d be SOCOM?” You ask- your mother’s old haunt, you know, and she’s still got some pull there, if nowhere near as much as she did while she was active duty.

“I didn’t say that.” The admiral grins. “There’s missions the Navy would want that talent for, too. Perfect, point-to-point navigation with any conditions we want to throw on it is an impressive trick, son. I know she’s a bit of a flower child, and she’s gonna have to adapt to active duty life, but no matter who you end up flying with, you’re gonna have adjustments. Even commander Peterson is gonna have to re-learn things, son.”

He looks over your shoulder at the wall clock, and then back at you. “We can stay here all night jawing, if we have to son, but I can’t tell you much more that you don’t already know. “

You nod. You still have questions, you think- about all of them, really- but you’ve got enough information to make a decision. You note your heart rate rising as you think about it- this is the last big step before you’re part of the active fleet for real. After your deck tour, you’ll be a full time, fully-fledged naval aviator in the most cutting edge fighter on earth. It’s exciting, even for you.

[] Lotus
[] Kyou
[] Danielle
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>>3482091
>[X] Kyou
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>>3482091
>[x] Kyou
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And that's going to be it for the night!

I'm going to be pretty busy tomorrow, but we'll still get in a run, though it may be a bit shorter than usual. I'll stick around some here to field questions, if there are any, otherwise I'm going to make some tea and fire up warframe- I have a garuda to forma. again.
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>>3482091
[] Kyou
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus
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>>3482091
>[] Kyou
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>>3482091
>[x] Lotus
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>>3482091
>[X] Kyou
AWOOOOOO
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>>3482091
>Kyou
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>>3482091
>[X] Kyou
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>>3482091
>[] Danielle
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>>3482091
>[X] Kyou

It's Ace Combat Time
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>>3482116
Wrong post dude.
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>>3482091
>[] Kyou

Lotus' skill actually makes sense, come to think of it, given anti-sat weapons exist. Still, I gotta go Kyou.
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus
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>>3482091
>[] Danielle

Well, anon pegged Lotus correctly as a SOCOM girl. I wonder if she has any clue ...

So we’ll be doing a bit of everything but for concentrations we’ve got deep strikes/SEAD (Danielle), general smashing into shit (Kyou) and SOCOM/backup GPS (Lotus). I’m not convinced that we can go wrong with any of those choices. Nevertheless, I still vote Danielle by a nose. My second choice would be Lotus, and then Kyou—but all three are very close together for me at this point.

There’s been good arguments out in the table for all three by anon and Ghost. I think it will be fun regardless of which witch we end up with.
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>>3482091
>[x] Lotus
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>>3482091
>[X] Danielle
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>>3482091
>[] Kyou
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>>3482121
Inertial guidance is still a thing but it’s a legit consideration to be sure.
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>>3482091
>[] Kyou
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus
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>>3482101
Run the Gifts of the Lotus that are up, Catalysts are always nice.
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>>3482131
Well there's inertial guidance.

And then there's 'makes homing pigeons look like chumps'.
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>>3482091
>[x] Danielle
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>>3482091
>[x] Danielle
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus
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>>3482091
[] Lotus
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>>3482091
>[x] Kyou

>>3482101
Thanks for the run Ghost!
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus
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>>3482101
Thanks for the run boss.
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>>3482091
>[x] Kyou

Auntie M, like my X-COM scientists, get ALL the research material.
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>>3482091
[] Kyou
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>>3482101
What i'm wondering is why you'd put in a girl who is so obviously superior if you still intended to make it a choice. That's my biggest hangup on Kyou. And Is Kyou really the frontline option? She's literally a princess. I'd imagine the amount of shitstorm the Japanese government would give the US government if she was injured, much less killed, would be enough to keep her away from combat on PR duty for most of everything.
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>>3482167
The Japanese view of the role of leaders in combat should not be confused with those of Europe.
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>>3482167
That's been one of my issues with her as well, but supposedly putting royalty on the frontline is a non-issue somehow and anons don't seem to care and Ghost wants her anyway, so the game was rigged from the start..
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>>3482174
Especially in this setting. Didn't they deploy one (or more) of their princess-witches on the frontlines in '89?
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>>3482091
>[] Kyou
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>>3482091
>[] Danielle
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>>3482174
Then I ask you where was Prince Takahito, and Where was Roosevelt's son During the Pacific war?
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>>3482182
They deployed both their princess AND their crown prince (The current emperor and Kyou's father) in combat in '89.
>>3482167
>>3482179
Ah waifu wars salt. It never gets old, and it's one of /qst/'s primary exports. The game wasn't rigged, the vote is still on-going.
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>>3482179
Considering what we know of the Imperial family in this universe, whether people actually want them on the front line is a non-issue, because they have decided it's acceptable for them to be there, and that consequences happen. Look as Kasumi, or how the Emperor literally suited up in archaic armor to have a showdown with his disloyal subordinate. They give 0 fucks, and the people love them for it. The military may not like it, but who exactly do they complain to? The covens, as Kimiko lurks with her sword in the background?
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>>3482194
>>3482195
If it was done in '89, I suppose it can't be helped, but even still. There are things it doesn't match up with.
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>>3482193
Roosevelt had to beg/threaten to get on the beach—and Hirohito’s spawn are not the greatest example given they were off committing war crimes. The historical point stands however.
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Hey guys what if
what if
what if instead of just
fighting over who gets in the backseat
why not choose
all three of them?
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>>3482091
>[x] Lotus
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus
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>>3482193
Roosevelt isn't nobility, and Akihito was 8 years old in 1941.
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>>3482205
Takahito, Showa's youngest brother, of military age.
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>>3477836
>and all the signs point to that being "the correct choice"
You're seriously going to drive people to not vote Kyou. If she was, why have we spent x threads on selection. Why have we been giving two girls false hopes of becoming our co-driver ?

I don't think so.
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>>3482198
But it does match up with how they work in this universe, and honestly it makes sense. Who the fuck is tell someone like Kyou she can't fight, and getting anyone in her family to listen, when most of them also saw active combat? Besides, it's not like she's going to sit on the throne, and she's also not exactly in a vulnerable position, compared to many other postings for a witch.
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>>3482091
>[] Kyou
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>>3482200
Yeah why can't we change witches mid-flight like with fuel tanks ? That way we can burn more magic.
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>>3482206
Oh.
Wasn't he on the front lines in China and was absolutely appalled by the conduct of their military there that he went before the privy council in 1945 to recommend that Hirohito abdicate to take responsibility for the war?
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus
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>>3482091
>[] Kyou
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>>3482220
The only thing you got wrong there is front lines. He was military command and government administrator in the already conquered territory. About as far backline as you can be without being home.
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>>3482091
>[x] Lotus
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>>3482220
If I recall my history correctly, which going from memory is questionable, it was his brothers that were implicated not his children so I was incorrect in my original reference. The point stands however—the willingness of high ranking lords to put themselves in harms way is different.
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>>3482091
[] Kyou

Like other anons have been saying, we'll likely meet Danielle again anyway, but Kyou is gone for good.
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>>3482223
>>3482225
Huh. Well I mean it's a world of witches. It's probably not out of place to say with royal witches having far more power due to what I'm going to term Bloodline Amplification to be direct combat assets. Combined with the Martian War having them have to fight back across the pacific to retake their homeland, it's also probably not out of place to say that this philosophy extended to the male side of the royal family as well during this period.
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>>3482091
>[x] Kyou
TOUCH FLUFFY TAIL

>>3482167
>I'd imagine the amount of shitstorm the Japanese government would give the US government if she was injured, much less killed
This is SWQ Japan remember, the one where Pearl Harbour never happened and the Emperor still rules. If Kyou ever dies in combat their reaction will unironically be "VERY HONOURABU". They were planning on putting her in the army until she sprung for the navy instead and foisted her sister off on the groundpounders.
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Thiccwitch~!
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus
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>>3482234
You mean where Pearl Harbor ALMOST happened.

Then the attack force became the cavalry when the ayys hit Oahu.
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>>3482242
Which were then promptly counter rescued by American BBs sortieing from Pearl and blasting the Martians with their main dreadnoughts with their main guns while the Japanese ran for port.
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>>3482091
>[x] Kyou
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>>3482242
>>3482245

Bonds of brotherhood forged in the fires of war and all that
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>>3482091
>[] Kyou

An hour's late as shit, but I might as well get my vote in.

>>3482146
There's also celestial navigation, and that x-ray shit that the Chinese are working on/we have up in the ISS. Which I didn't know about until I double checked what celestial navigation was called. Shit's cool.

>>3482217
Have the three of 'em in pods, drop them when they're spent? They'd figure out how to get 'em back. Maybe fulton them
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>>3482101
So Ghost what's the rest of the workup look like? Like whoever wins goes under for the surgery, and then what, a month or two of team-building plus training and then we're off to the fleet for our deck tour?
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus
I'm surprised at how few Danielle votes there are.
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>>3482266
SEAD is just not as interesting as SOCOM; Danielle was hinted into being part of the quest anyway and Kyou has enough votes that splitting the vote between Danielle and Lotus would result in Kyou winning.
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>>3482091
>[] Kyou

Gotta say backseater wise we gotta go with Kyou just for all round performance.

But I wanna waifu the shit out of Danielle, and we know Auntie Merlin is gonna grab Danielle if we don't, which means we'll likely see her a fair bit more than Lotus or Kyou if we didn't pick them.

Oh yeah, anons, remember, we need to let Merlin know to grab Danielle immediately when we make our decision.
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus
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>>3482266
I'm a big Danielle fan, and I'm not that hard up about her losing the vote, though a decent part of that is we'll likely see her in the future working with Merlin.
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>>3482272
As a danielle voter, I didn't want to say anything at the time, but I saw the death of danielle votes weeks ago. I expected this outcome. I didn't see so many lotus voters, but I thoroughly expected Danielle to get next to nothing.

Why? Because ghost merely hinted at the option to have her in the squadron as an ally, rather than a backseat, which he didn't give for any of the other girls. Anon will always vote [x]both if Anon can, and the only way anon in this quest got a [X]BOTH vote was by simply not picking danielle.
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>>3482266

I think the wind came outta Danielle's sails when we learned that Merlin really wanted to get her hands on her - that's as close to 'she's gonna be coming back around when she's needed' as it gets, considering Merlin's gonna be working on our plane half the quest.

I think Lotus would've gotten it if she weren't so... not military, y'know? She also confided in us that she wasn't sure if she could adjust well to military life - good honesty, but I mean first in last out air supremacy fighter + not sure about military isn't the best combo. Plus, her Hollywood mom will honestly probably cause more issues in terms of on the ground drama than paparazzi or whatever military politics Danielle might bring in.

Honestly though, Lotus has a lot of support. She's the all-rounder pick with the benefit of 'oooh spooky SOCOM ops' going for her - I just like her character the least from the time we've spent with her. I wouldn't be surprised if it was at least very close between Kyou/Lotus.
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>>3482286
>Lotus has a lot of support
only in the last thread or two with a lotta 1 post ID's

Ghost should probably close the vote soon
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>>3482286
The fact that she hasn't really done any true military training is a huge turn off for me. What if she panics in the middle of a fight? I don't want to have to deal with that when we're doing "'oooh spooky SOCOM ops'" with her.

Plus her Mom was part of the Jane Fonda crowd and the less we have to deal with THAT particular branch of idiocy, the better. She'll probably get picked up by Sorensen if we don't choose her anyway.
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>>3482289
Anything waifu tends to bring the lurkers out. Funny how relationship votes always seem to get more attention than actually important ones.
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>>3482289
Did you miss that Ghost is gone? >>3482101
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>>3482292

Yeah, I'm glad Lotus has such a strong 2nd, and maybe even will catch up over time but damn, if this many Kyou guys had been out in force earlier we probably could have locked this in a few hours ago.
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>>3482291
Oh man that would fly in SOCOM's face, having a crayon eater get their preferred choice, they wouldn't like that.

Though maybe MARSOC (hurr durr RAIDUUUURS OOOAH) didn't shit the bed in this setting and they are still respected and accepted within those circles, who knows.
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus
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>>3482293
and thats kinda the problem, leaving a vote like this to go overnight just means its going to get samefagged to hell and back.
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>>3482306
Both sides have similar amounts of 1 post IDs. I wouldn't worry about it.
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>>3482306
I'm pretty sure it already is, looks like one Lotus poster.
>>3482309
Nah, he's right, it's being same-fagged by some Lotus poster.
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>>3482309
All it takes is for one dipshit to start the war and spam it just because the vote wasn't closed.

It's been an hour and a half, more than enough, hell I even managed to make this vote even though my timezone sucks ass and I forgot this was running today.
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus
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>>3482318

This kind of thing happened back when I was running 89, too.

Don't worry, I learned back then how to deal with it- and /qst kinda makes it easier. Usually if there's a massive glut of no comment, 1 post IDs all voting the same way, I'll just ignore them. Of course, I'd prefer not to have to do that, because I don't want to leave lurkers out in the cold, but, sadly, it's better to do that than it is to screw everyone else over by letting it work. In this case, it's SUPER easy to prove you're just a lurker- post a second time. If you're samefagging you can't (to my understanding). Of course, even then there's going to be cases where it's like, two back-to-back posts, and then nothing else ever, which is gonna be hinky as fuck too, but for some reason people seem to want to think that QMs are simple machines that can't figure things out.
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>>3482315
Just spotchecking I think Kyou has a healthy lead, and was never close to losing it. Lotus has a good showing, but not enough to matter.
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>>3482334
Yo. Lurker here.
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>>3482334
I remember lurking through the '89 waifu wars. Are you ready for this round or do you have a plan to avoid the harem end?
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>>3482335
Kyou's got 22 to Lotus's 16, ignoring >>3482333 this samefag's latest vote, fucking seriously dude, every 10 minutes without fail...

>>3482334
>If you're samefagging you can't (to my understanding).
Correct, though when a vote is done over a long enough time, all those on mobile devices get new ID's just by shifting IPs with roaming connections.

Then you've got the lone Lotus voter changing his IP every 10 mins without fail.
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>>3482335
Lotus has gained that good showing from the one samefag who operates like clockwork.
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>>3482315
Christ even when you're winning your insufferable
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>>3482334
It's not just lurkers that that catches. Us mobile posters can't seem to hold onto an ID either. Most I've managed is 3 posts to an ID. But that's an effective way to weed out the worst at least.
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>>3482352
Way I understand the ID system on mobile is you get a new one for every new cell tower you network off of when using data or reconnecting to the same tower after turning data on and off.
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>>3482351
Oh so pointing out the obvious same-fag is being "insufferable." Ok. Sure. 1 Post ID. Same thing, no discussion, just the name. Every 10 minutes. Like fucking clockwork. Fuck off mate, you're the one who's being a salty cunt. Not sorry I caught you out posting from your phone.
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>>3482346
Oh sure, and to be fair, there's no perfect way of doing it. There's going to be some samefagging, I have no doubt, that's just how things work. ANd I'd rather allow a little of it than to screw lurkers over. But I do tend to get suspicious when there's a string of no comment, one vote posters, all voting the same way.

Besides, >>3482342 shows how easy it is (and you were fine anyway dude, you had another post in the thread... somewhere. haha! maybe last week?)

And yeah, >>3482352 it's super unfortunate.... honestly, the only way I could see around that would be a trip or a name... and I really, really don't want to ask for either of those things. Either way, we'll sort it out.
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>>3482091
>[X] Kyou

For reasons that have been pointed out again and again, so I don't want to repeat myself. A lotus would be fine too.

Muh Youngspawn tho
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>>3482091
>[X] Lotus
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>>3482334
See how I lurk.
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>>3482363

No, all 77 posts you made are insufferable, not just that one. I'd be ecstatic if Kyou won but also you had a heart attack. The fact that you're insecure and paranoid really hit it home for me.
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>>3482334
I have returned to defend my vote, for what it's worth.
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>>3482374
Let’s not wish death in our fellow anons shall we. There are plenty of people in this world that need killing if anyone needs a target.
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>>3482366
Yah, IDs change for me by phone when I hit a new tower or switch WiFi networks. Not a big deal though—it’s easy enough to spot the problem votes as you said.
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>>3482373
>>3482381

Sorry for asking you guys make a second post, i know lurkers just wanna lurk. Thanks for it though!
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>>3482388
Maybe this is just a hangover from old "final destination" days, but for high stakes votes like this I deliberately have only the post number and the vote itself. And save the conversation for other posts. My vote is up there somewhere, but I can't prove it, so eh lotus was never going to win. Too much going for Kyou.
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>>3482334
I too, lurk
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>>3482387
Should have gone to
>>3482366
That's what I get for manually entering post numbers.
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>>3482091
>[x] Kyou
I do really like the complementary nature of our personalities, I am a bit concerned about press though.
>>3482369
I really liked the idea of how she had a bunch of enemies and I was hoping for a flight with her but oh well, I do think the re-flight was useful
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>>3482387
To be honest, I may just call the vote around noon EST today, and if it looks like that kinda thing fell off, I'll count what's up as-is. But if there's a bunch of sketchy votes...

but I get it, and honestly it's not usually a problem- i figure if someone's that invested, that's awesome! but I don't like it to ruin the quest for other people, and that's how I always try to swing, so I'm probably a lot more lenient on it than I ought to be.
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>>3482334
Confirming lurker status
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>>3482091

Not seeing a Vote Closed, so why not.

[X] Kyou

A couple of things. First, the important thing to keep in mind is inevitable shenanigans. Kinda seems like there's going to be a sliding scale of difficulty and missions suited to the girls. So the powerlevels thing doesn't matter. What we really need to look at is, which girls' baggage seems the most amusing? For me, that's Kyou. Daddy Issues and Flower Child just have baggage that interests me less than Blood Nerd's. Obviously everyone is going to have their own opinion there.

Second, I see a lot of comparisons to Strikers 89 and Frank. I think a lot of the Frank characterizations are unfair. When Anon voted, it was often to be professional and restrained, and dumb, suicidal things were done in the spirit of love, duty and sacrifice. At least, as I recall. The main takeaway should be that a great pilot in a Wyvern *should* be a God of War, not that "We Wyvern Driver, we maniacs now!" When you think of it that way, the reaction to the mission runs makes a lot more sense. Likewise, having a more aggressive voice to keep us out a rut is, I think, a good thing.
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>>3482091
>[] Kyou
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>>3482374
Jesus asshole, what is your major malfunction?
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>>3482091
Danielle should be in Merlin's special strikers.
Lotus can get us to target but inertial nav might be able to replicate. Especially with our super smart AI.
Kyou will push the airframe to the limit and make us exceptionally dangerous in combat.
>[x]Kyou
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>>3482091
>[] Kyou
Woah. I fall asleep and almost miss the most important vote. Almost enough to change my mind to Lotus there. Hopefully there’s a role for her when SHTF.
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>>3482091
>[X] Kyou

Still the most interesting option to actually fly with IMO, even without looking at combat potential.
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>>3482091
>Lotus
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus
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>>3482091
[X] kyou
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>>3482334
I'm a lurker
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>>3482091
>>[X] Kyou
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>>3482462
>Danielle should be in Merlin's special strikers.
I agree.

I like Danielle and I wouldn't be opposed to her in the backseat, but her signing on with Merlin makes more sense, at least to me.

It's my hope that we also see her become potentially bro-tier later on in the quest, just a chill gal we either hit the gym with or talk shop along with whenever Merlin comes up with a fresh way to make the lives of Commies absolute living hell.
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>>3482091
[] Kyou

Just waiting for ramming speed option
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>>3482535
Or waifu outside of the plane
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>>3482091
>[x] Lotus
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>>3482091
>[x] Lotus
Navigating without GPS will be essential, plus her ability to run things at maximum capability.
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>>3482091
>[X] Kyou

I'm on mobile put I've got a couple of posts up their from other days.
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus
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>>3482091
>[] Kyou
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>>3482091
>[x] Lotus
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>>3482101
>I have a garuda to forma. again.
Thanks for the run. Dare I ask - again ?
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>>3482266
>I'm surprised at how few Danielle votes there are.
Most who might be in favor of Danielle understand that a vote for Danielle is just a vote for Kyou ( lost vote).
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>>3482276
>we gotta go with Kyou
If that was so both in universe and OOC there would have been any time-wasting selection process at all.
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>>3482289
>with a lotta 1 post ID's
Some of us have a job+family+x and aren't here very often or don't have a opinion on anything but the most important vote. Don't start with samefagging accusations unless you have some very solid proof.
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>>3482715
If you'll notice, we didn't until it was blatantly clear there was one anon doing it like clockwork.
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus

I wonder how SOCOM is going to react to her?
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>>3482731

Honestly if we do work with SOCOM who knows what we will see.
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>>3482091
>[] Lotus
Gotta get dem SOCOM titties
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>>3482747
I was thinking more like how the usual operators would react to her flower child personality suddenly joining the group.
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>>3482791
They'd probably give us a good ribbing about having a total babe sitting behind us practically naked in both a physical and mental sense for hours on end.
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>>3482715
There was a 1 post ID post for the same option with no discussion or anything every 10 minutes like clockwork until it was called out, at which point it immediately stopped. Call me crazy but that sounds like same-fagging to me.
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>>3482091
I had to sleep last night, but seeing as the vote is still open...
>[X] Kyou
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Ok guys, this vote will close at 1400 EST. We'll still probably pick up at 1800. I know that's unusual, but I want a little time to count the votes up and get working on the post so we can start on time.


>>3482692
She's got 5 forma on her, 6 now, partly cos she's built with umbra mods. But the 6th forma was because I got a primed flow.
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>>3482091
>[x] Lotus
As someone who is sick and went to bed early thank you for making this the overnight vote Ghost!
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>>3482791
With disdain and distance
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>>3482908
Not neccesarily, some people have a open mind and welcome...fresh perspectives.
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>>3482908
>>3482948
You’re talking about one of the only communities that primarily goes by first names even amongst the enlisted. I used to see officers do that shit in other areas, but having my E8-E9 call me by my first name isn’t something I ever saw amongst non-ops people. They’d be cool with her. Probably would even prefer it.
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>>3482956
She’d be adopted as a mascot. And when her mom and her hippie friends show up, well that’ll just be great to watch
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>>3482091
>[X] Kyou

vote still not closed? lucky me I guess
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>>3482961
Basically this
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Ok, so as-of 13:22 EST the votes stand at.

Kyou: 35 votes
Danielle: 6 votes
Lotus: 28 votes

Keep in mind that I haven't gone through looking for probable same fagging or other methods of unfairly skewing the vote, but there is still proof that this is basically a two-horse race between phoenix-chan and the thicc hippie. And with a bit of a search, you already know who I'm rooting for.
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>>3482987
Are you counting 1-Post ids with no commentary? Ghost has already said he's not counting those.
>>3482334
>>3482366

At my last count with that criteria it's sitting at
Kyou 31
Lotus 19
Danielle 5
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>>3482992
Yeah, I counted those as I didn't see ghost's post on votes from 1-post IDs. So I will take your count as being more accurate as you were probably looking out for them.
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>>3483004
S'all good. I'm probably gonna get called an insufferable faggot again, but whatever.
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Ok guys, I'm closing the vote here.
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>>3483097
RIP our big thicc grill.

Oh well, maybe we'll see her on a joint op in the future.
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>>3483350
>tfw we'll never see a bunch of hippies get fucking tackled by base security after they try and spray-paint our bird
Damn, I was hoping to see that happen.
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>>3483379
Such a shame. But Anon would rather go for the obvious trap
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>>3483350

Funny you should mention that. I'm not gonna say anything concrete, don't wanna get anyone's hopes up... but one of my close associates who's been helping me with all the characters is a big fan of Lotus. He made some noise about running a spin-off with her. We'll see what happens!
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>>3483410
AWW SHIT.
Based Planefig
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>>3483417
No, not Planefag.
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>>3483417
>>3483422
I was about to say there's no way it's Fap Angel. He hates SWQ. Considers it his worst work, I doubt he'd come back just to run a side quest.
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>>3483422
Yes Planefag.

Actually, as long as it’s literally anyone other than Merc, I’ll be happy
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>>3483445
>as it’s literally anyone other than Merc
It's probably merc. Lotus's talents would be useful for a PJ unit while her naive and non-combative nature would make her just the character to pique his interest.
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>>3483462
Hardest of passes
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>>3483462
Poor Lotus. We'll never see her again.
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>>3483445
>Actually, as long as it’s literally anyone other than Merc, I’ll be happy
Here's hoping.
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>>3483445
>Actually, as long as it’s literally anyone other than Merc, I’ll be happy
I's been a while since I followed any of his work. How come?
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>>3483445

Being fair, it's EXTREMELY tentative right now, no more than a couple minutes of conversation. He's not happy about hronk-witch (As he calls her) losing the vote, but we'll have to see what happens. there may be nothing at all, there may just be some writefag work done, far too early to say.
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>>3483470

Aren't the Pararescuemen the guys who besides rescuing downed pilots are also deployed to save the ass of Special Forces teams who get themselves into a tight-situation and need help with extraction?
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>>3483530
Yep, Merc ran a quest around them while '89 was running.
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>>3483530
Yes. They be bad.
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>>3483530
Yes.
https://valor.militarytimes.com/hero/3578
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>>3483417
>planefag
>running

Anon, I...
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>>3483698
Shh shh
Just let me believe it
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>>3482091
>[] Kyou

I wanna see where this goes. Lotus is nice and all but something tells her we'll run into her somewhat frequently when the SCS blows open. Or maybe more aptly, she'll drop in on us.
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>>3483764

If Kyou drops in on us then we are likely in deep shit.
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>>3482091
[] Kyou

In terms of character dynamics, Kyou holds my interest by far. There's an air of mystery around her and I want to explore more.
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>>3483764
Votes closed a while back dude. Doesn't matter much though as Kyou won.
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>>3483761
The Greek man exists solely to stream shitty animu VNs now and comment on how much he detests various things.
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>>3483445
Shitting on another QM in a quest...there is no rule against this AFAIK but I would ask you kindly to not do it again.
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>>3483863
Except Kotobuki.
Man fucking loves Kotobuki
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>>3483870
And I would kindly ask you to fuck off.
Oh wait, that wasn’t kind. But you still need to fuck off
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>>3483764
>>3483799
Really dude? Is this bait?
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>>3483804
Ah, I didn't notice till now. Still though it's cool to see where things go from here.
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>>3483870
I mean, I can kinda understand why he's saying that though. Merc literally runs the same MC, with the same supporting characters, in different settings, for every single quest that he's done since Valkyrian Mercs quest. The only real exception was Gundam Build Fighters Quest.
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[x] Kyou

You sit thinking for some time. To his credit, the admiral doesn’t say anything as you do so- the only sound in the room is the tick of the wall clock and the rumble of jet engines from the flight line.

Eventually, you reach your decision. “Kyou.” You say, eventually. “I want to fly with Kyou.”

The admiral’s expression doesn’t change. “You’re sure, son?” He asks. “Remember we can’t go back on this one.”

You nod. “Yes, sir. I’m sure.”

He nods. “Alright.” He says, pulling a cell phone, an ancient grey brick, from the pocket of his shorts and speed-dialing a number. He frowns as it rings. “This is Admiral Marshal. Get the paperwork filled out for the imperial princess Kyou and get a call to her.” He pauses. “Yes.” He says, in response to some unheard question. “If she’s not on post, get a call over the port and have them send a runner to the Kaga.”

He listens for another second. “Get it done.” He says, then hangs up. “So what’s your plan now, Lieutenant?” He asks. “They’re going to have to send a runner to the Kaga.”

You nod. “She’d mentioned she was expected to stay in the imperial staterooms aboard while the Kaga was docked here.”

“That’s normal for the imperial family.” The admiral says, nodding. “I know she’s requested to be moved into joint accommodations if selected, so you’re going to have to move too. Sorry son.”

You shrug- you’ve been living out of a sea bag anyway, and say as much. “Changing buildings?”

He nods. “You’re off duty for the rest of the day, if you want to take care of that. You’ll be moving over to the training quarters, the top floor. I’ll have a van if you want it.”

“My crew chief was going to get handed the keys today, sir, I’d like to make that.” You point out.

“That was today? I’m sorry son, I didn’t know, I wouldn’t have kept you this long. I’ll call the duty desk if you want to catch a ride out to the hangars.”

[] I could use the walk, sir, thank you.
[] That would be pretty nice, yes sir.
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>>3483888
Eh, I would have preferred the American thiccness. But that vote passed and I look forwards to what comes next.
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>>3483915
>[X] That would be pretty nice, yes sir.

Never say no to an offered free ride
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>>3483890
The guy's got an established fanbase and has been running almost since quests were a thing. The dude knows what his readers want and he provides it. No more, no less.
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>>3483915
>[] I could use the walk, sir, thank you.
-CALL THE MERLIN AND LET HER KNOW
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>>3483915
>[X] That would be pretty nice, yes sir.
We need to call Merlin and let her know we picked Kyou ASAP, and walking and talking on a phone is a HUGE nono on post, especially in uniform.
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>>3483915
>[] I could use the walk, sir, thank you.

Today is leg day
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>>3483915
>[x] I could use the walk, sir, thank you.
Make sure to let Merlin know
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>>3483915
>>3483925
This.
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>>3483915
>That would be pretty nice, yes sir.
>>3483925
>>3483929
>>3483931
Also this
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>>3483915
>[x] I could use the walk, sir, thank you.
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>>3483922
That's fair, and I don't have an issue with him or his formula, even if I do find it boring. Just pointing out why people wouldn't want him to do it.
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>>3483922
You know, you can hop off Merc’s dick anytime you want
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>>3483915
>[x] I could use the walk, sir, thank you.
Also this >>3483925 give best Aunt a call.
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>>3483915
>That would be pretty nice, yes sir.

>>3483937
And you could stop being an asshole any time you want but I don't think either is going to happen.
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>>3483915
>[] I could use the walk, sir, thank you.
Also, not to Merlin about selection and such

Morgan seems to like to walk rather than ride.
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>>3483942
I could, but nah. I like being an asshole. It suits me
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>>3483937
Let's chill a little. I mean we get that you don't like Merc or his quests, but the dude's an establishment and hasn't done anything wrong. In fact, given his run on PJ Witches '89 there's probably a lot of cross pollination between his fans and Ghost's fans. So no need to get angry about it and start making accusations.
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>>3483915
>[x] That would be pretty nice, yes sir.
Don't want to miss the hand over, also we should call Merlin.
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>>3483915
[] That would be pretty nice, yes sir.
Also, tell Merlin about selection so she can grab whoever
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Ok, votes called!
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>>3483922
I like the guy's writing and I enjoyed PJ witches and his Valkyria quest but I couldn't get over the reusing characters in his other quests.
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looks like it's a tie vote. 15 more minutes, and I can go pack another box!
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>>3483915
>[] I could use the walk, sir, thank you.
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>>3483915
>>[x] That would be pretty nice, yes sir.
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>>3483915
>[x] I could use the walk, sir, thank you.
And also tell Merlin.
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ok, votes called again!
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Just to clear things up, I'm not involved with the Lotus project Ghost is talking about. I may provide a few minor contributions to the setting, but I don't really have anything major planned for SWQ19 in the short term!
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>>3484071
Suddenly I am looking forward to the Lotus side-project. I don't know why. How mysterious.
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>>3484071
Thanks for clearing things up Merc.

>>3484084
No need to be an asshole man.
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>>3484084
Merc never did anything to you, keep the bullshit to yourself.
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>>3484111
How would you know?

Incidentally you are wrong.
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[x] I could use the walk, sir, thank you.

“I could use the walk, sir, but thank you.” You say, standing up. He stands as well, and offers a handshake.

“Alright son.” He says. “Take it easy this weekend, I’ll see you Monday morning in my office, along with Kyou at oh eight.”

You nod, accepting the offered handshake. “Oh eight, yes, sir.”

He nods, then steps out of the room, leaving the door open behind him. You wait a second before pulling your own cell phone out of your pocket and punching in the speed dial for Merlin. She answers on the third ring. “M-morgan?” She says.

“Selection’s done, auntie.” You tell her. “I went with Kyou.”

“I-I thought you m-might.” She says. “A-are the t-two of you staying in the BOQ o-or are you moving?”

“Moving.” You respond. “Training quarters.”

“O-oh. The wyvern s-suite.” She says. “They’re n-nice rooms a-and there’s a pool at the b-building. H-have they contacted her yet?”

“They had to send a runner. She’s aboard the Kaga.”

“S-should have just called C-cassie.” She says. “W-well, I guess it d-dosen’t matter. I want to see you tonight, i-if you can get free.“

“My chief’s getting the wyvern today.” You say. “I’ve got to go to that, first.”

“T-then you’d better h-hurry.” She says. “I-I’m headed down there n-now, a-and I think the rest of them are t-there already.”

“See you there, auntie.” You say, hanging up and standing, taking a second to stretch your back. You end up having to hurry a bit more than you’d have wanted otherwise- it’s an easy enough walk, though you do have to make sure to stick to the marked areas- and you arrive just in time to watch the simple, informal ‘ceremony’. John- the chief- hands CPO Brown a simple stencil and a can of black paint, and she paints her name on the inside of the nose wheel door.

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She stands back to look at it with a huge smile splitting her face. “Crew Chief Latisha Brown.” You hear her say. “Not too bad for a poor girl from the south.”

“Not considering how expensive a drake is.” John points out. “You got a crew all picked out?”

She nods as you join the two of them- she flicks her eyes over at you and grins again, before nodding. “I think so, yeah. I’ll be stealing a couple bodies from here, and I’ve got a couple boots.”

John nods. “Sounds about right. Well, good work again, chief. I’ll let you talk to your pilot. Sir.” He says, nodding at you- you nod back as he turns to walk off. You scowl for a second, then shake your head- not worth dragging everything down, not right now.

She turns to look at you, saluting, though she can’t quite stop smiling. “Sir.” She says- you salute, then shake her hand. “Not too bad for a Lafayette girl, huh?”

You smile. “Probably not. You’ve got your name on the jet before I do.”

She laughs. “We’ll fix that, tonight probably. How’d the last flight go? Who you go with?” She looks over as the cart- with Merlin in the passenger seat- appears around the corner of the hangar, headed this way.

[] Last flight went well, and I’ll be flying with Kyou.
[] Let’s wait for Merlin real fast, Chief.
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>>3484125
>[x] Let’s wait for Merlin real fast, Chief.
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>>3484125
>[] Let’s wait for Merlin real fast, Chief.
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>>3484125
>[x] Last flight went well, and I’ll be flying with Kyou.
Make sure to tell her that we used WEP. While I'm sure that our last chief either remedied the issue or passed the info on to her, we should at least make an effort to keep her in-the-know.
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>>3484125
>[x] Last flight went well, and I’ll be flying with Kyou.

Don't see why we would wait.
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>>3484125
>[x] Last flight went well, and I’ll be flying with Kyou.
Also WEP, because we always WEP.
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>>3484125
>[x] Last flight went well, and I’ll be flying with Kyou.

>>3484131
We already told her
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>>3484125
>[X] Last flight went well, and I’ll be flying with Kyou.
Plus WEP.
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>>3484125
>[] Let’s wait for Merlin real fast, Chief.
-We did run WEP
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>>3484125
>[X] Last flight went well, and I’ll be flying with Kyou.

>WEP
We always ride best girl hard
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>>3484125
>[X] Last flight went well, and I’ll be flying with Kyou.
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>>3484125
>[] Last flight went well, and I’ll be flying with Kyou.
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>>3484125
>[X] Last flight went well, and I’ll be flying with Kyou.
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>>3484125
>[x] Last flight went well, and I’ll be flying with Kyou.
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Ok, votes called!
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[x] Last flight went well, and I’ll be flying with Kyou.

“Last flight went well, and I’ll be flying with Kyou.” You say.

“Kyou? Hoo boy.” She says, laughing. “She got them crazy eyes, sir. I didn’t get to talk to her, though, so maybe I ougghta not say anything till I meet her.” She laughs again, looking over as Merlin pulls up and joins you.

“H-hi chief.” She says- she’s out of uniform, you note, though she’s wearing pants, at least, for now. You suspect if she’s planning to work on either of the wyverns here, she’ll be out of them soon enough.

“Ma’am.” Chief Brown says. “So I guess you’re my new boss?”

“N-not yet.” Merlin responds, smiling. “S-soon though. I-I’ve got a couple of my team f-from the factory o-on the way. T-they’ll be working f-for me, but t-they’ve been told to listen t-to you when they have to work on the Wyvern.”

Chief Brown nods. “I figured as much, yes ma’am.” she says, then laughs. “I’d have been disappointed if you didn’t have people coming!”

“S-speaking of.” Merlin turns to you. “K-kyou’s coming here.”

you blink, looking at your watch. “Already?”

Merlin nods. “I-I got a heads up f-from a friend. S-she’s chopping in on a IJN h-helo, but s-she’s got her seabag and kit.” She smiles. “I-I thought she was going to move quickly, b-but I underestimated h-how quickly. Do Y-you want help moving? O-or are you going to wait f-for her?”

[] I guess I’ll wait, she’ll be here soon.
[] I should probably go grab my stuff and get moved over.
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>>3484254
>[] I guess I’ll wait, she’ll be here soon.
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>>3484254
[] I guess I’ll wait, she’ll be here soon.
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>>3484254
I wonder if she will even bother to let the Helo land, or just jump out for the hell of it.
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>>3484265
It's an excited AWOOO man. Have you ever been able to stop an excited husky from going where they wanted?
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>>3484254
>[] I guess I’ll wait, she’ll be here soon.
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>>3484254
>[x] I guess I’ll wait, she’ll be here soon.
We're crew now, let's wait for her. I wanna see her buzzing with repressed "holy shit I got picked!" I suspect it'll be funny.
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>>3484254
>[x] I guess I’ll wait, she’ll be here soon.
We can move our stuff later in the day, I doubt we really brought much. For now we ought to meet our new WSO, and high-level dignitary. And we better be ready for cameras.
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>>3484254
>[x] I should probably go grab my stuff and get moved over.
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>>3484254
>[x] I should probably go grab my stuff and get moved over.

Merlin > Kyou
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>>3484254
>[] I guess I’ll wait, she’ll be here soon.

>>3484268
It requires too many sedatives to be healthy most of the time.
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>>3484254
>[X] I guess I’ll wait, she’ll be here soon.
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>>3484279
>It requires too many sedatives to be healthy most of the time.
Exactly. And we can't use sedatives on an imperial princess. That'd be rude.
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>>3484254
>[x] I guess I’ll wait, she’ll be here soon.
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>>3484254
>[X] I guess I’ll wait, she’ll be here soon.
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>>3484254
>[x] I guess I’ll wait, she’ll be here soon.
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>>3484254
>[] I guess I’ll wait, she’ll be here soon.
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>>3484254
>[X] I guess I’ll wait, she’ll be here soon.

Momma raised a gentleman.
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Ok, votes called!
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>>3484111
>>3484114
Not only that, but I have it on good authority Merc was the second shooter on the grassy knoll.
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[x] I guess I’ll wait, she’ll be here soon.

You have to admit you’re curious enough to let it get the better of you- she had to have had that helo waiting for the call, which means either she knew your selection had been pushed up, or she was taking a hell of a liberty with her imperial status.

The helo heaves into view, flying low and fast- probably pushing the peacetime rules of flight for a nonemergency flight- though they still have to hold off as a flight lands in front of them, the chopper orbiting a few miles away, out of the landing corridor. As soon as the jets- a pair of F-35, you note. Odd to see them here- the JSF fleet is still fairly small, and most of the available fighters are either at sea or at the conversion school at NAS Alameda.

You watch them taxi for a second before the IJN helo arrows in for a landing on the shorter runway, then slowly taxis to a spot fairly close, by the larger support aircraft on the line nearby. The side doors open and Kyou hops out, her hair wildly blowing in the rotor wash as the blades spin down. She’s carrying one of the tan colored IJN seabags over her shoulder and a civilian-looking backpack in her hand. She looks around a second before beelining straight for you.

“Told you, sir.” CPO brown says out of the side of her mouth. “Crazy eyes.”

You manage to not laugh with a bit of effort, instead allowing Kyou to join your group. She’s very, very clearly struggling to maintain her composure- excited energy seems to radiate off of her. “Lieutenant Laroux.” She says, as a greeting- she’s in uniform, and both you and chief Brown salute. She returns it promptly. “I hope I’m not being premature. I came as soon as I got the notification.”

You nod, looking past her at the IJN Seahawk. “Have you been waiting long?”

“Not at all.” She responds. “The captain was kind enough to have the aircraft on standby after you landed, it was simply good fortune there were a few landing troops here, visiting with friends. The wyvern is a distinctive aircraft.”

“S-so are you ready t-to move?” Merlin asks. “I c-can drive you, if you want.”

Kyou nods. “Oh, yes!” She exclaims, then coughs. “I mean, yes. I am. That would be excellent, if the lieutenant agrees?”

[] Yeah, let’s go. Catch you later, chief.
[] Is there anything you need first, chief?
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>>3484522
>[x] Is there anything you need first, chief?
While I feel it's not needed, best to double check first.
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>>3484522
>[] Is there anything you need first, chief?
AAAAH. ADORKABLE EXCITED AWOO.
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>>3484398
Good, Kennedy was a moron.
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>>3484522
>[x] Is there anything you need first, chief?
Unlikely, but the crew chief is boss on the ground.
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>>3484522
>[x] Is there anything you need first, chief?
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>>3484522
>[] Is there anything you need first, chief?
AWOO indeed
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>>3484522
>[] Is there anything you need first, chief?
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>>3484522
>[] Is there anything you need first, chief?
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>>3484522
>[] Yeah, let’s go. Catch you later, chief.
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>>3484551
I would be ok with this as familiar out Kyou. I'm on board for that.
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>>3484522
>[] Is there anything you need first, chief?
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>>3484522
>[X] Is there anything you need first, chief?
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>>3484522
>[X] Is there anything you need first, chief?
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>>3484522
>[] Is there anything you need first, chief?
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>>3484522
>[] Is there anything you need first, chief
No reason to piss off the new chief.
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>>3484522
>[] Is there anything you need first, chief?
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>>3484522
>[X] Is there anything you need first, chief?
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Ok, votes called!
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>>3484522
>[x] Is there anything you need first, chief?
In the words of at least one company of heroes unit line "fucking adorable, like a puppy"
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[x] Is there anything you need first, chief?

“Is there anything you need before we go, chief?” You ask, and CPO Brown laughs.

“No, sir. Honestly there’s nothing for us to do until after she has her plugs, and even then we’re not going to be doing much, and it’s gonna be on admiral Wells.” She says. “I’m gonna head up to LA for the weekend.”

You nod. “If you’re sure-” and she waves it off.

“We’re good, sir.” She says. “You take care of your shit, and we’ll get at you Monday.”

Kyou looks over at you, excitement shining clear through her eyes- though she doesn’t say anything. You shrug. “Let’s go then.” you say. “Want me to get one of your bags?”

Kyou shakes her head. “No, thank you.” She responds, distracted as she follows you away from the jet, but can’t take her eyes off of it. You’d laugh, but you understand how she feels- you kind of felt the same way at first.

Merlin leads you out of the gate, driving over to your temporary quarters, where you rapidly throw everything into your sea bag and clean out the fridge, throwing what you plan to keep in a plastic tub, and the rest away. You frown at Cass’s forgotten skivvies- but pack them out all the same. She’ll ask about them later- and probably demand you go with her to replace them if you can’t give them back when she does.

Thankfully, you think, Neither Merlin nor Kyou wanted to come up to help. You don’t need that conversation right now.

You clear with the duty desk, and Merlin drives the two of you to the newer building on the east side of the base, dropping you off at the doors. Built sometime in the last decade, it’s a little more secure than the BOQ you were in, the building is surrounded by a chest-high wall, and there’s four provost marshal officers at the duty desk. “Evening, sir. Ma’am.” The man behind the desk says, without looking up- then looks up and smiles. “Hey! How’s it going, sir?”

You recognize him immediately- he was your driver when you first arrived on post. “Sargent Williams. Good to see you again.”

“Moving in, eh?” He asks, and you nod. “Alright, here’s the deal. I need any keys to any POVs you have on post, your and driver’s license.” he says, then looks over at Kyou. “Yours too, ma’am.”

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You hand him your license and shake your head when he looks over at Kyou. “She’s IJN, Sargent. No POV here.”

He laughs. “Yeah, I thought I recognized the uniform. So you’ll get the full lecture later, but while you’re staying here, you are not allowed to keep a POV in the lot, and you must check out with this desk every time you leave the building. You’re also required to check in every time you come back. Unless otherwise authorized, you are not allowed off base without an escort.”

You nod, as does Kyou.

“You are allowed visitors by arrangement, but they may not remain in the building past twenty one hundred hours, and they’re not allowed in before oh nine hundred.” He continues, as he looks at the screen in front of him, then reaches into his desk to pull out a pair of keycards. “There’s a laundry facility here on the first deck, along with a dining facility. You’ll need the first, no one uses the second. It’s about three quarters of a mile to McDonalds or Subway.”

You nod again as he hands you a keycard and gives Kyou the other. “That’s it, sir. You’re on sixth deck, turn left out of the elevator, all the way at the end of the hall on the right. There’s contact information on a card next to the phone if you need to order food. Call them, then call down here to let us know they’re coming. Delivery drivers aren’t allowed up past the desk.” He looks back at the screen, then grins at you. “And that’s it, sir. They’ll give you the full rundown on Monday.”

“Thanks, Sargent.” you say, turning down the hall to the elevators, with Kyou following quietly.

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You find the rooms easily, and the key card works on the first try. The rooms are dark and cool, and flipping on the light, you see they’re actually pretty nice. Two doors on the right wall stand open, the nearer a bathroom, the farther one a bedroom, while another door on the left opens into another bedroom. There’s a tiny kitchen to your left as well, and in front of you is a reasonably sized living area with a flat screen TV and a black sofa.

You stiffen when Kyou wraps her arms around you in a hug- but she lets go quickly. “Thank you Thank you thank you thank you!” She exclaims as you turn. “I was worried I had made a poor impression with our flight and dinner afterwards!” She says. “I can’t believe I’m here now and-“ She pauses. “And I’m not going to wake up! We’re really a wyvern crew! I get to work with Samantha Wells directly! Oh-” she cuts herself off, though she’s still practically bouncing on her feet. “I will not disappoint!” She says finally. “And I am quite hungry.”

“Pizza?” You ask- there’s a number for pizza hut on the wall next to the phone, and she nods.

“That would be amazing. Anything would be amazing. This day is amazing.” She responds. “I will need to spend all night re-reading my operations manuals for the fighter and-” She cuts herself off. “I am making a fool of myself.”

You shake your head. “My sisters are worse.” You respond. “At least you breathe still.”

She nods. “What will we do until Monday? I can hardly wait until then. Is there any way to push this forward?”

You shrug. “Probably spend the weekend with Auntie M. She’s eager to talk with you too.”

You suspect that was the right thing to say- like you just gave her the best present she could have ever, ever asked for. Given her background, you’re going to class that as a win.
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>>3484798
Hahaha oh my god it's perfect! I was fucking right!
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And that's it for the week guys! Ended up being a hell of a thread, huh? haha!

So I'll be packing the apartment up Tuesday, but I need to come back up to clean it out one last time before turning everything in, so the soonest we could do anything next week would be Thursday, if we can run at all. Honestly, we may not be able to, I'm really not sure yet how it's gonna all work out. I expect we'll be able to get a run in the week after, but again, not sure how everything is going to pan out, but I'll do my best to try and keep everyone updated on my twitter, which is here: https://twitter.com/Warhound89 if you want to follow it. In the meantime, of course, there's the spinoff being run by Seawolf, with a thread running at >>3458621

Anyway, gents, I'll see you when I see you, hopefully next week, but if not then then it'll be the week after. I'll stick around to answer questions as best I can, but otherwise, till then guys, cheers!
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>>3484819
Thanks for the run ghost!

>>3484789
I hope that by "packing out" the panties you meant throwing them away. We don't want a repeat of Alaska where they show up again.
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>>3484798
Sooo dorbs and excite!

>>3484819
Thanks for the run. Have a good move, I always hated moving.
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>>3484798
>You stiffen when Kyou wraps her arms around you in a hug- but she lets go quickly. “Thank you Thank you thank you thank you!” She exclaims as you turn. “I was worried I had made a poor impression with our flight and dinner afterwards!” She says. “I can’t believe I’m here now and-“ She pauses. “And I’m not going to wake up! We’re really a wyvern crew! I get to work with Samantha Wells directly! Oh-” she cuts herself off, though she’s still practically bouncing on her feet. “I will not disappoint!” She says finally. “And I am quite hungry.”
>“Pizza?” You ask- there’s a number for pizza hut on the wall next to the phone, and she nods.
>“That would be amazing. Anything would be amazing. This day is amazing.” She responds. “I will need to spend all night re-reading my operations manuals for the fighter and-” She cuts herself off. “I am making a fool of myself.”
AND THERE'S THE RELEASE! Oh my god that was even cuter than I was expecting it to be.
>>3484819
Thanks for the run man and thanks again for making the backseater decision the over night vote. I was worried I wouldn't make it given how early I went to bed last night.
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>>3484789
>building is surrounded by a chest-high wall
Dear god, no
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>>3484823
>I hope that by "packing out" the panties you meant throwing them away. We don't want a repeat of Alaska where they show up again.

I think he meant that we shoved them in our bags, he implied that if we didn't Cass could and would take us out to help her shop for a new set.
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>>3484798
Bad choice or not, that is freaking adorable
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>>3484798
See you next time, boss.
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>>3484798
Very cute!

>>3484819
Thanks for the run Ghost!
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>>3484819
Thanks for the run boss.
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>>3484819
Thanks bossman!
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>>3484813
When she gets in a room with our sisters it’s going to be very interesting ...
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So when are we making the Girlfriend Chili for Kyou?
I'm thinking as a celebration before we set off on our deck tour.
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>>3485140
OH!
If I remember right, she said she'd never really learned to cook. We should teach her. Not The Chili obviously, but other stuff we know.
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>>3484823
>we
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>>3485140
If you want Morgan to fuck Kyou, do it in a less backhanded and conniving way. Nobody is falling for it.
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>>3483953
Cowardice suits you too, anonymously shitting on people. Good for you.
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>>3483953
kys hoenet
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>>3484798
Aight. Das cute mang
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Heh, I was hoping for a response like this.
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>>3485485
Where the fuck do you think you are?
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>>3485676
Outside of /b, check the report list, it says something about trolling and edgy behaviour outside of that board.
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>>3485699
>/b
You need to go back to whatever shithole spawned you.
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>>3485462
We’ve all been briefed on what happens with the MIU. It’s probably going to happen at some point anyway so it’s hard, for me at least, to think of any ideas as conniving.

This is coming from a Cass/Merlinfag.
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>>3485700
Agreed.
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>>3485147
Teaching her to cook would be cute and funny.
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>>3485725
Kyou vote is done, samefagging and mob mentality can stop now, if you haven't realized.
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>>3485761
>Hurr durr everyone I don’t agree with is a samefag
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>>3485761
How about you just fuck off already, you fag?
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>>3485711
>Cass/Merlin

That's real dangerous thinking, there, sir.
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>>3486000
What? It’s not like he said Cass/Maman.
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Merlin is only thirsty for MONSTER ENERGY
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>>3486124
Keep dreaming. Child-like naivete is so rare nowadays.
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>>3485462
>backhanded
>conniving
I thought I was pretty direct there, actually.
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>>3486100
Yes, but what he said was within the realm of possibility if you squint real hard and tilt your head, haha!
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>>3485773
>Where the fuck do you think you are?
>How about you just fuck off already, you fag?
Seems like you have delusions of grandeur, thinking you can just command random strangers like that.See a local psych post-haste.
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>>3486443
You are so out of your depth it isn't even funny. You don't belong here and you proving it every single time you post.
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>>3486443
>>3486447
Both of you shut up. It's getting old.
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>>3483915
>you kind of wish you could be there when she gets the news- you want to see her reaction
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>>3487066
>touhou backseater
>we have an AI

Ran as our AI is now my headcanon.
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>miss vote
>Lotus socom tour no love
>Danielle fags btfo forever
>Best princess wins

Not even mad
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I had a thought, at least something that we should see about getting Merlin's help with.

We need to find out what Kyou's limit is. I don't know if her shield has ever been pushed to that point, but we need to find out what it is.
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>>3486219
I meant in that order, but you’re inspiring me.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kUsFWO08CO0
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I've been away from the internet for the last few days. Was there no run this week or did I miss a thread?



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