After posting many, many times in the handful of Warhammer 40k Chaos Cultist threads in the distant past, and being most dissatisfied with their cessation, I've decided to reboot the concept the best that I'm able, with you anons controlling a Heretical Cultist™ on one of several OC feel-free-to-steal planets of your choice. I can't promise I can match the post length, writing quality, or constant posting, but I swear on the God Emperor/Ruinous Powers/Tyranid Hive Mind that I will do my absolute damndest.> "What? God Emperor? Tyranid Hive Mind? Fucking tripfaggot, I thought you said you were going to do a reboot of the 40k Chaos Cultist quests!"I can already hear you saying that, so I'll address it the best I can. Instead of forcing you to choose between the four Dark Gods or to follow Chaos Undivided as customary, I'll give you the opportunity to vote on which 40k Cult our Heretical Cultist™ follows. That means if you faggots want to run a Slaaneshi dub-step cult, that's fine, but if you'd rather do a rags-ripping evangelical Redemptionist horde, that's more than fine, and if you want to reject the God Emperor/Chaos dichotomy wholesale in favor of running a Genestealer Patriarch? That's absolutely fine! Even weirder shit is absolutely possible, and nothing is off of the table except for LGBTQIA2+ and futashit, because that shit is not my fetish!Before I can get this trainwreck flying off the rails, I'll need you anons to vote on one of the following religions.> You are a worshiper of Chaos, more specifically...>> KHORNE, God of COURAGE and HONOR! ... and Hatred, and Bloodshed.>> TZEENTCH, God of HOPE and CHANGE! ... and Lies, and Treachery.>> NURGLE, God of LIFE and FAMILY! ... and Decay, and Despair.>> SLAANESH, God of PASSION and PERFECTION! ... and Obsession, and Temptation.>>CHAOS UNDIVIDED, FOUR ARE ONE and ONE IS FOUR! The whole fucking pantheon.> [CONT]
>>3417467> You are a worshiper of the God Emperor, more specifically...>>AN ECCLESIARCH, an ordained priest of the Imperial Creed, and a particularly extreme one at that!>>A REDEMPTIONIST, a mask-clad zealot hell-bent on purging the unclean, and a particularly competent one at that!>>A RANDOM FANATIC, with so many billions hearing the same sermons constantly, someone was bound to take them too seriously!> You are one with the Hive Mind, more specifically...>>[CHOOSE A TYRANID HIVE] because FUCK listing that shit.> You are a worshiper of a far lesser known divine, more specifically...>>HASHUT, GOD of FLAME and TYRANNY ... and Alcoholism, and Dwarfism.>>ALLUMINAS, GOD of CLEANSING LIGHT ... and Unchanging Order.>>MALAL, GOD of CHAOS fighting CHAOS ... and, that's it, more or less.>>(write-in) Make one the fuck up, for all I care.> You aren't a worshiper of any contemporary faith at all, but one of the last adherents of a long-dead ideology, more specifically...>>MILITANT ATHEISM, the ORIGINAL GANGSTA Imperial Truth!>>SOME FRINGE POLITICS, albeit, distorted as FUCK by the passage of eons!>>TRADITIONAL CHRISTIANITY! Jesus Christ, you hope He's listening...>>(write-in) Again, make something up, for all the fuck I care.REMEMBER, ANYTHING IS ON THE TABLE! The more fucking bizarre the better, bonus points if it's some bullshit an actual Cult would come up with. If there is a tie, I like the concept more than either one separately, or anons vote on such, I will combine the results into an absolutely magnificent clusterfuck. Mutually opposing Chaos Gods *ARE* valid choices, but I can't promise appeasing both will be any kind of easy.> [NO CONT]
>>3417470> You aren't a worshiper of any contemporary faith at all, but one of the last adherents of a long-dead ideology, more specifically...>>MILITANT ATHEISM, the ORIGINAL GANGSTA Imperial Truth!Fucc it
>>3417467>>3417470>Write in: The old gods (the dreamer cult).On a distant planet, far out of the reaches, or persuasion of the god emperor lies a new religion, a new faith. Neither worshipping the gods of chaos, or the old dying man, this cult started forming from the shared dreams of people on this planet, and the things that festered within them. They dream of incomprehensible beings, far greater than anything within this mortal coil, and perhaps greater than the chaos gods combined. I say a Lovecraftian cult would be a cool thing in 40k. Think of the crazy shit advance cultists and huge sacrifices could summon from beyond the stars.
>>3417467>CHAOS UNDIVIDED
>>3417488>recognizes reality in the 41st millennium is fundamentally broken>revolts against the concept that a true deity existsBased and Nietzsche-pilled>>3417492That's a fun concept. That said, shit is far away and most, (MOST) Cult boons will be subtle as fuck until you manage to actually summon/become the Avatar of an Elder God, and then it's Game Over Man™ for everyone in at least three star systems.>>3417493Patrician taste.
>>3417467>The crystal cult.Far from terra on a distant agri world a comet falls, startling blue as it streaks through the sky. Its disinigration in the atmosphere comes with a shining light, as beautiful crystal blue dust rains onto the ground .A small farmhouse is struck of what remains of the comet. Crashing through the roof, flooring and into the cellar the crystal embeds itself into the ground. A farmer lays by its side unconscious the blast. Slowly the crystal grows its jagged lines in the dirt etching it's way to the man untill it touches him and his eyes turn a dazzlingly bright blue.>you are this young farmer and you know the crystal must spread.
>>3417498If you're trying to reference something I'm not catching it, but if you want to go full Brotherhood of Nod try and spread !Not!Tiberium in the grim darkness of the 41st millennium I'm down with that.
>>3417499Just referencing a quest about this from two years ago that never finished and I miss.I dont really know much about the C&C world so not sure if its that.
>>3417488>>3417492>>3417498Why can't you all just play a normal Chaos Undivided cultist and try to become a Daemon Prince so you can rub it in Be'lakor's face? Is this a symptom of the moral and mental degeneration of our times?
>>3417501I think I might remember something like that. There was a crystal god of light prepping for a massive undead invasion, right?>>3417506>not being a militant atheist follower of Chaos Undivided, who views Chaos as a tool yet manages to earn the grudging respect from the Ruinous Powers that Abaddon never could
>>3417467>MILITANT ATHEISM, the ORIGINAL GANGSTA Imperial Truth!I like the idea that we were a Confidant for Emps and and we took a duty to be Sealed Away in Case People Fuck shit up REALLY REALLY Badly and that happened so now we're here
>>3417523Lorgar was right; his problem was being a little bitch.
>>3417545True HERESY but you have to consider, followers of the Four are far slower to curry Favor with each of their Patrons, but must do so with all in a mortal lifetime, without angering their mutual foes. It is a Herculean task, but no doubt one >>>/qst/ is well-equipped to handle.
>>3417467>> KHORNE, God of COURAGE and HONOR! ... and Hatred, and Bloodshed.>>A REDEMPTIONIST, a mask-clad zealot hell-bent on purging the unclean, and a particularly competent one at that!Fuck all that noise, we’re a Redemptionist that took their religion too seriously and ended up so filled with hate he didn’t even need a demagogue to sway his soul.
>>3417470>MALAL, GOD of CHAOS fighting CHAOS
>>3417488>>3417534>2 votes for MILITANT ATHEISM>>3417492>1 vote for FUCKIN' OG ELDRITCH>>3417493>1 vote for CHAOS UNDIVIDED>>3417498>1 vote for CRYSTAL SCOURGE>>3417600>1 vote for KHORNATE REDEMPTIONIST>>3417624>1 vote for MALALThis is exactly as much of a clusterfuck as I was convinced it would be, but damn if it isn't getting my excited.
I'll give you guys the next twenty-four hours or twenty votes before I tally the results, whichever goes first, and whatever they might be.
>>3417470>MALAL, GOD of CHAOS fighting CHAOSChaos God of Teamkilling.
>>3417713This a revote chief? Cause if it is>MILITANT ATHEISM, the ORIGINAL GANGSTA Imperial Truth!Everyone fight me at once.>>3417506>Needing crutches to face the uncaring universe>Not being strong enough to face a godless universe>Recognizing Warp Phenomenon as deitiesNo wonder the Word Bearers deserved to be humbled
>>3417758I think it's just a tally.Did your ID change?
>>3417758Those are brave words.You'll be brave until you come face-to-face with a Daemon for the first time.And then you will understand how wrong you were. How wrong your FAITH in a godless firmament was.The Dark Gods are deities in every way that matters, and to worship them is no crutch -- it is a mark of the insight to understand that the Corpse's hopes for a rational world are naught but pipe dreams, and of the strength to throw away your ego and serve the greater calling.
Can't we just pray to a rabbit we're convinced is chaos-spawn?
>>3417470>>(Write in)>GORK (OR MORK), GREENSKIN GOD OF BRUTAL KUNNIN' (OR KUNNIN' BRUTALITY)
>>3417857Yeah, stuff those weedy 'umie gods! Mork! Gork! Mork! Gork!
>>3417498peace through power> You aren't a worshiper of any contemporary faith at all, but one of the last adherents of a long-dead ideology, more specifically...>>TRADITIONAL CHRISTIANITY! Jesus Christ, you hope He's listening... time to call the heavenly host
>>3417857Wait.We're not a Chaos Cultist, we're an Ork. Not just any Ork, the true prophet of the WAAAAGH!!!
>>3417506>>3417545>>3417784Baste> CHAOS UNDIVIDED
>>3417912support, we found the last copy of the Bible.And I hope We're talking crusader Christianity, rather than pacifistic turn the other cheek Christianity
>>3417600Ignore this, I’m switching votes>>3417912>>3418355>+1>imagine a horde of mutant Redemptionists hell-bent on casting down the graven idol and achieving Salvation>all the appeal of Nurgle sweeping the Underhive with none of the downsides, while Tzeentch-tier infiltration subverts the Imperial priesthood
>>3417498>>3417912I'm switching to christianity too
>>3417912+1lets go!
>>3417727Switching from this to Christianity. Big E is gonna freak.
>>3418486ah cmon why not try the good ol hellsing style christianity?
>>3418491That.That's what I'm doing.
>>3418498let the word of Jesus christ spread throughout the galaxy!
>>3417912>>3418355>>3418440>>3418478>>3418480>>3418486>John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” These are the words which stayed your hand from Heresy, opened your eyes to the Holy Sacrifice, and set your wayward soul on the Path of everlasting Salvation. Though it has been many millennia since the Messiah walked upon Holy Terra and was nailed upon the Cross to die for all Sin, you know that the Lord Our God is Eternal, and that He watches over you even in the grim darkness of the 42nd millennium. It is your Holy duty to see His Will be done in every world as it is in Heaven, see the Golden Throne shattered for centuries of Idolatry most foul, and see the Heretical servants of the Unholy in Chaos undone.Despite your innumerable Sins and shortcomings, such is His Wisdom that you, among all others have been chosen, and the Path you must walk is clearer than any cloudless night sky. It is your duty to bring Hope to the masses, usher in a New Crusade, and dismantle the Imperium's hold on humanity, brick by brick, soul by soul! You shall witness the construction of His Heavenly Kingdom firsthand, or you shall be chosen for Martyrdom, and ushered into Paradise! Praise be unto the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit!>> You remember stumbling upon the Good Book in that ancient sealant crate so many weeks ago, and enraptured by the first page, your soul was set ablaze with zeal for the True Faith! Soon, you came to the realization that all you knew was False, that the souls of the multitudes were in grave danger, and that if there is no other, you must act.>>Before you became the Humble Instrument of the Lord Our God, who were you?> You were an Ecclesiarch, a devoted priest of the False Emperor trained in the ways of Oratory for all your life, and seeing the corruption all around you, you began to lose faith, but rather than succumb to your inner daemons, in your contemplation you came across the Good Book, and knew then that there could be no doubt.> You were an Imperial Guardsman, one of trillions to fight and if need be die for the Imperium, but by some miracle, you managed to survive your deployment and retire onto a "safe" world, but the memories of what you did and were forced to do consumed you, and you began to contemplate ending your life when you discovered a True God to fight for.> You were Nobody, a insignificant laborer toiling each waking moment for his daily bread, a mote of dust amidst the endless desert, a drop of dew scattered into the endless sea, a flickering mote of light set to drift within the eternal void, one indistinguishable from any other, yet you alone were chosen to bare the Cross, and in its name you will gladly die.
>>3418595>> You were an Imperial Guardsman, one of trillions to fight and if need be die for the Imperium, but by some miracle, you managed to survive your deployment and retire onto a "safe" world, but the memories of what you did and were forced to do consumed you, and you began to contemplate ending your life when you discovered a True God to fight for.for a name : Longinus petrus
>>3418630also if we get enough followers will god make a mark in the warps ex miracles etc
>>3418595> You were an Ecclesiarch, a devoted priest of the False Emperor trained in the ways of Oratory for all your life, and seeing the corruption all around you, you began to lose faith, but rather than succumb to your inner daemons, in your contemplation you came across the Good Book, and knew then that there could be no doubt.
>>3418641>implying that He who was, is, and will be was not always present in all things>implying I'm not going be leaving that ambiguous as possibleI'll give you a couple more hours to decide on the protagonist's background.
Wasn’t the regular human of stood up to horrris supposed by a catholic perpetual
Ollanius Pius
>>3418778I don't think you'll have any players if you wait much longer.
>>3418883>>3418896According to new GW, allegedly, yes.>>3418922Half an hour isn't such a long while to wait anon.
>>3418778>>3418922>couple more hoursa few hours is though
>>3418595>You were an Imperial Guardsman, one of trillions to fight and if need be die for the Imperium, but by some miracle, you managed to survive your deployment and retire onto a "safe" world, but the memories of what you did and were forced to do consumed you, and you began to contemplate ending your life when you discovered a True God to fight for.
>>3418938you alive QM?
>>3418988You ever close your eyes not meaning to take a nap, then wake up two and a half hours later? It do be that way, anon. Writing.
>>3419107More or less. Less is more.
>>3419030>>>3418595>>You were an Imperial Guardsman, one of trillions to fight and if need be die for the Imperium, but by some miracle, you managed to survive your deployment and retire onto a "safe" world, but the memories of what you did and were forced to do consumed you, and you began to contemplate ending your life when you discovered a True God to fight for.Yes this.
>>3418630>>3419030>>3419473>Ephesians 6:10-12 "Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."You were an Imperial Guardsman, one of trillions to fight and if need be die for the Imperium, but by some miracle you managed to survive your deployment and retire onto a "safe" world, though the memories of what you did and were forced to do consumed you, and you began to contemplate ending your life when you discovered a True God to fight for. Even today, so many years after you were torn from your old world to wage war against threats both myriad and unnatural, your battered flak vest, scorched helmet, and notched lasgun remain. They are your most prized possessions, indeed, they are some of your only possessions, and you've had to fight to keep them more than once.>> Its petty thugs may be next to nothing compared to staring down a Tyranid swarm so vast you need not aim, or charging into an Orkish waaagh's trenches while thunderous hellfire consumes everyone you've ever known around you, but this world is far from civil, and there is no doubt in your mind that the wretched sinners within it need Jesus.>> Which world was it?> Krenon II, a lifeless frozen wasteland where snow drifts vast enough to crack mountains pour by the day, yet its population numbers in the many billions, spread through archeo-tech vault-citadels linked by magnetic and carefully insulated trains. The criminal underworld in each is enormous, but not so piteous as the twisted mutants, nor so disgusting as the excesses of the nobility or their nihilist philosophies.> Urizen's Rest, an isolated planet once filled with lifeless wasteland, its ecology made a stunning recovery with the conquest of some ancient warlord or another, and might be on par with some low-end paradise worlds, though its intensely tribal population has barely achieved early industrial tech, let alone Imperial standard, and cannot cease the worship of graven idols or cannibalistic slaughter of one another.> Bastion #45, a former agri-world, scoured by one world-scouring plague after another to the extent its soil is near-arid, and sprawling fortifications have taken its place. The population is segmented into two parts, those within the authoritarian quarantine zones, and those without, left to wander the dried grass in search of water with cracked tongues and sun-burnt backs. In spite of a thousand purges some vestige of Heresy's taint yet remains, and off-world invasions are so relentless hushed, blasphemous talk has begun of forming a military alliance with a minor Xenos species.
>>3419481Might as well go full heresy and show the true God to some xenos in bastion 45
>>3419481>Bastion #45, a former agri-world, scoured by one world-scouring plague after another to the extent its soil is near-arid, and sprawling fortifications have taken its place. The population is segmented into two parts, those within the authoritarian quarantine zones, and those without, left to wander the dried grass in search of water with cracked tongues and sun-burnt backs. In spite of a thousand purges some vestige of Heresy's taint yet remains, and off-world invasions are so relentless hushed, blasphemous talk has begun of forming a military alliance with a minor Xenos species.
Faith in strife
>>3419481>Krenon II, a lifeless frozen wasteland where snow drifts vast enough to crack mountains pour by the day, yet its population numbers in the many billions, spread through archeo-tech vault-citadels linked by magnetic and carefully insulated trains. The criminal underworld in each is enormous, but not so piteous as the twisted mutants, nor so disgusting as the excesses of the nobility or their nihilist philosophies.Let's bring the healing miracles of Jesus to mutants so we can say that they were born deformed and hated for a reason. What could possibly go wrong!
>>3419601I changed my mind, this will go places.
>>3419601let us begin!
>>3419601>>3419606>>3420046>Job 24:7 "They cause the naked to lodge without clothing, that they have no covering in the cold.."So it is for the destitute within the vault-citadels of Krenon II, and so it is you have been chosen to bring the warmth of the Holy Spirit to renew the broken, the weak, and weary. It shall not be an easy task, for a hundred score false priests will deny His Name, and a thousand thousands shall hear the Message yet in their hard-heartedness refuse to confess, but if your earnest efforts can save but a single damned soul, they shall have been more than worth the effort. Praise be unto the Ancient of Days!>> Despite your humility, were chosen to take on the Holy Cross for good reason. Even you must admit you possess impressive-> Strength- You may be no Samson of Old Terra, but your stature is the stuff of folk tales, enough to give an Ogryn pause and tote a full lascannon as if it were no more than a bulkier lasgun. A single swing of your club shall smote the sinner's skull!> Dexterity- You may not be able to walk on water, but if any man might dare to make the attempt, it would be you. In motion you appear to be dancing, and to see you fire an autogun is to see a dozen holes pierce the target, none more than an inch separate!> Powers- You dare not compare such crude Warp-craft to the miracles of the Holy One, but to the unrepentant sinner the scouring hellfire from your fingertips may as well be the Wrath of God, though you must remain strong against the wiles of the Unholy!>> And more-so than your physicality, as much as you might deny it for fear of the sin of pride, is your awe-inspiring-> Intelligence- You may be no Adeptus Mechanicus, but your mind is sharp enough to give any but an Archmagos a run for his Throne Gelt, and the loathsome tech-heresy you're bound to commit see him return with a vengeance!> Eloquence- You may be no Ecclesiarch, but you bring your tongue to confess in such beauty that even the stoniest of hearts will crack, the sinner recoil in terror, and the masses brought to righteous indignation with a single word!> Willpower- You may be no upcoming genius or legendary orator, but you know your purpose more deeply than anything you've ever known, and nothing, save for the fiercest of daemons may see you flinch but a single inch!
>>3420073> Dexterity- You may not be able to walk on water, but if any man might dare to make the attempt, it would be you. In motion you appear to be dancing, and to see you fire an autogun is to see a dozen holes pierce the target, none more than an inch separate!> Eloquence- You may be no Ecclesiarch, but you bring your tongue to confess in such beauty that even the stoniest of hearts will crack, the sinner recoil in terror, and the masses brought to righteous indignation with a single word!
>>3420073>Powers>WillpowerWe’re the prophet of the new NEW testament
>>3420101+1 change my mind
>>3420073>>3420101This the powers of god flows through us
>>3420101Hell yeah, new nouveau Testament Prophet
>>3420101>>3420109>>3420163>>3420279> Psalms 77:14 "“Thou art the God that doest wonders: thou hast declared thy strength among the people."> Proverbs 25:28 "He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.”You are as nothing before the sight of the Lord Our God in Heaven, but He has ordained you to bring His Holy Message to the peoples, and such is His Strength, He has manifested it through your very hands! Before you came upon the Good Book, you felt a stirring deep within your soul, begging to be let out, to bring revelatory, miraculous sanctification unto the masses, but such was your blindness, you denied its presence and rebuked it! Yet when you studied the Testaments and became enraptured in glorious faith, you realized the power within you was no witchcraft, but the Will of the Eternal God brought unto this world through your own hands!>> It is clear that you are a Prophet of this New Age, ordained to work miracles and revive the faith, but what form do they take? What Gift of God cries out to see His Holy Work be done within your soul?> The Sight of God, you witness what has never been before it comes to pass, and if you focus, know what dwells in men's hearts!> The Hand of God, you reach out to touch without moving so much as a single inch, and if you focus, shatter the sinners in your path!> The Wrath of God, you are a fount of hellfire, scouring the flesh from the sinner's bones, and if you focus, cleansing the sins of the multitudes!
>>3420556> the Mercy of godYour hands heal wounds that are fatal, your blessing turns that which is corrupted pure. Your words wash away madness and hate to be replaced with peace.
>>3420560Anon, that's some high-tier shit. The protagonist isn't actually channeling miracles (yet) they're an unusually potent Psyker with a hitherto unheard of religion.
>>3420567Aww darn I guess the sight of god then.
>>3420570Purifying Chaos corruption is some *HEAVY* Warp-craft, and while Biomancy is always an option, it almost inevitably leads to Cronenberg shit and might make mass-evangelizing a bit too easy. Better to give you a choice of Divination, Telekinesis, and Pyromancy with the potential for further improvement, I figure.
>>3420593Nah dude we fix body horror not cause it.
>>3420603True, but healing possibly present underlying spiritual corruption ranges from difficult to near-impossible. Hmm... I suppose Biomancy is fine, but if you want to veer into mutating shit, you'll need to BS some doctrinal justifications.
>>3420615Not to mention lightning manipulation, which falls under Biomancy's purview and can be pretty badass, even if it's far less stable and symbolic than Pyromancy.
>>3420615Yeah I see what you mean. I know that this kind of healing is almost non existant in 40k. As health class likes to say the best way to stay pure is through not fucking the succubus in the first place. I'm ok with vision over biomancy I just wanted us to be a healer not mutating dudes.>>3420619Lightning is pretty deific desu.
>>3420615I think the most horror stuff we would do is replicating things from the bible, like a disease that kills only first born sons or a hoard of locusts. We gotta be by the book.
>>3420633>Yeah I see what you mean. I know that this kind of healing is almost non existant in 40k. As health class likes to say the best way to stay pure is through not fucking the succubus in the first place. I'm ok with vision over biomancy I just wanted us to be a healer not mutating dudes.True, and reversing mundane physical mutations is perfectly possible, it's just that with Chaos-related deformities, there's a near-certainty of a deeply tainted soul, which is a whole other animal. You might be able to twist a Slaaneshi's tentacle back into a semi-normal hand, but you can never undo the effects of a thousand lines of Warp-dust. Not saying that it can't be done, only that it's unheard of, and your hands alone aren't enough. Mercy of God is a valid option, and you can choose it if you'd prefer.>Lightning is pretty deific desu.Depends on whether you're going for the God is judging, or God is wrathful symbolism, in my opinion. Different connotations and it's a tad easier to find biblical examples of the latter.
>>3420635That, or 40k interpretations, is a given, but that's some intricate stuff and getting there'll take a while.
>>3420556> The Sight of God, you witness what has never been before it comes to pass, and if you focus, know what dwells in men's hearts!Praise be to the lord.
>>3420655I'll still vote for god is merciful then. Being a healer is still very useful.
>>3420556> The Wrath of God, you are a fount of hellfire, scouring the flesh from the sinner's bones, and if you focus, cleansing the sins of the multitudes!PURGE THE SPAWN OF SATAN AND SEE THEIR IDOLS RENDERED SLAG! GOD WILLS IT!
>>3420689The imperium does this already I would go for the mercy of God
>>3420556Mercy for the Jesus Boys
>>3420706Fuck, that’s a good argument. I’ll change my vote to Healer path.>>3420556> Mercy of God
I'll give you another half hour to decide, but it looks like Biomancy's winning out.
>>3420734Our new messiah shortly after healing the sick on the planet of Krenon II in the year of our lord 42,111
>>3420762Based.
>>3420684>>3420706>>3420712>>3420724> Luke 9:6 "“And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where."> 2 Samuel 22:13 "Out of the brightness of His presence bolts of lightning blazed forth."You have been chosen to wield the Mercy of God, in your hands twisted flesh may be made whole and broken bones set right, and should you focus, the lightning of the Lord's Judgment may be made manifest. It is a far greater Gift than you deserve and a burden to bare, for daemons whisper lies into your ears each time you exert your powers to undo the corruption of Eden, and you must remain ever-vigilant, lest they consume you.>> You are a prophet, chosen to cast the Idolater's yoke from the backs of men and to be proven Holy by both deed and word, but what Name shall you be known by?> Longinus Petrus, it is your birth-name, given to you by a humble woman thousands of light-years ago, and you see no reason to change it.> You shall take a New Name from the Good Book, one of the ancient disciples or righteous men blessed by the Christ, so better to honor the Savior and stave off delusions of Godhood. [Write-In]> Your name shall be written in the Book of Life, and uttered by none other than the Christ. You shall be known by your works, and the flock shall refer to you by your Title alone. [Write-In]
>>3420890>longinus petrus > we must stay humble and have the name we were given as the prophets before us.
>>3420904This, at some point, let’s get a Power Spear and call it the Lance of Longinus.
I'm going to go get lunch and be back to tally the vote in about thirty minutes. How are you liking the quest so far?
>>3420926The options have been cool and you've been very accepting of write ins and been responsive so that's been good. Havent really gotten to the meat of the quest though so no idea about that.
>>3420926Wait so QM does GOD of Christianity exist in this universe or are we just on our own. Cause in the 40k universe cultist actually believe in cults because they actually have the power and the gods they believe in
>>3420997I assume we are on out own untill we create what is effectively another chaos god out of sheer mass of belief which is a mechanic in 40k
Rolled 2 (1d100)>>3420939True that.>>3420997>>3421031He might, and He might not, that's what faith's all about anon.> Rolling 1d100 to determine how tenable your starting situation is
>>3421072Honestly hoping for a 1 I love a good rags to all consuming power story.
Rolled 28, 14, 19 + 20 = 81 (3d30 + 20)>>3421072>>3421072Glory unto the Lord and thank the Christ that this quest was roll-under in keeping with 40k tradition.> Rolling 3d30+20 to determine how many congregants have flocked to witness your healing hands and give themselves unto praise
Rolled 44 (1d100)>>3421072
Rolled 7 + 20 (1d20 + 20)>>3421089A 100 would've begun with you already on the Adeptus Arbites hit-list, with rumors of the Inquisition's agents coming to investigate rumors of the miracle working priest of a new God. Maximum HARDMODE, even as it is, you've only saved 81 of impoverished souls out of tens of billions.>>3421093> Rolling 1d20+20 to determine how many Fanatics are in their midst
>>3421102Ah. Well that's a tad more severe then I expected
Rolled 16 (1d20)>>3421093>>3421102Not bad.>>3421101I'll take that, times 10 for Throne Gelt, they've given the Church everything they have. To put that into perspective, a Makeshift Lasgun is 300 on the Black Market, a Crude Helmet's 150, and a decent Flak vest runs for 500. Keep in mind, I'm pulling these prices out of my ass.>>3421106Openly evangelizing about a hitherto unheard of deity tends to attract undue attention.> Rolling 1d20 to determine starting accommodations
Rolled 4 (1d20)>>3421116A bolt-hole formerly used to manufacture contraband narcotics, turned into a fortified, if cramped, church after converting its owner. It's tucked away in one of the sprawling tunnels near the middle of the vaults, above the mutant-infested depths, but nowhere near the decadence of the aristocratic heights. The perfect place to infiltrate the planet's manufactorums.> Rolling 1d20 for Reputation Low might be better, but every little bit helps. Last roll before update.
>>3421126You are utterly unknown outside of the local tunnel complex, and those who know of you assume your congregation's worshiping only some minor Imperial Saint. If only they knew.
>>3421135wait our healing powers are some kind of psyker stuff for now right?
>>3421177yeah warp shit
>>3421185well we chose will power of one of out perks so i think we will last till we find a way
>>3421072>>3421093>>3421101>>3421102>>3421116>>3421126> John 1:5 "“And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."So you preach to the huddled masses, and so they bow their weary heads in prayer. It has been less than one month since you began to preach The Word unto the inhabitants of the Kabburius Vault, and you dared not pray for a more receptive audience. Many among them are lesser mutants, baring deformities for which the Imperium denounced them, many among them are beleaguered laborers of the nearby Manufactorum, and a handful are gangers who've seen fit to abandon their sinful ways.All of them were drawn by your Holy Message, that there is a God who Loves them for who they are, that they can be forgiven for what they've done if they accept the sacrifice of the Christ upon Calvary Hill, so many millennia ago, and upon their deaths, go to be with Him in an eternal paradise. Your impassioned tales of a rugged, wooden Cross and a Messiah who died on it for *them* personally, and the whole of humanity resonates with them in a way the tired old preaching of fat priests bidding them to worship a Golden Throne they'll never see never did.Soon you gathered a humble congregation, some twenty-odd souls enraptured by every word to pass your scarred lips, and then came the doubters. A mob of filthy men mired in a lifetime of unspeakable poverty, their eyes angry that anyone would dare to feed them such beautiful lies, and their souls crying out for something to believe. They held weapons, clubs, knives, and a handful of autoguns, and demanded that if you served a healing God, you would heal the worst among them, a starving Scavvie child whose shriveled arm was twisted and bent backwards at birth. Some of those in the congregation rose to do battle but you bid them to sit, and asked that they bring the wretched boy to you, for you know that nothing is beyond the God of Nations. You knelt in prayer, laid your hands upon the child's scabbed flesh, and sent your soul out to the Lord Our God. Minutes of deep contemplation passed while the crowd grew restless, but your followers begged them to wait, and so they did, and so they staggered back at the sight of a sudden white light.Your hands were wreathed in radiant lightning, and your mind was possessed by an instinct not entirely your own as you sent the electricity deep into the boy, shattering his bones, then piecing them back together in a proper assemblage. When God's Mercy left you, it was as if you had fought a hundred campaigns in as many moments, and you collapsed, half-dead from the exertion but the child arose with a straight arm, and the eyes of those in the crowd were filled with the rapturous, timid joy of the hopeless who've been given True Faith.> [CONT.]
we could hole up in the lower parts in the hive , convert the mutants and gangers to start a rebellion on the gise that god is the emperor , we are a saint and the hive governor or the planetary governor is a heretic, them convert til we achieve the Lord's glory
>>3421262Not a single one to follow held doubts, and even if you aren't so eloquently spoken a preacher as the robed men in the Imperial Temples, your passion is none the lesser for it, and every single one in that crowd remembers what they saw. They hang onto your every Word and beg to touch the Good Book, but they weep, for you do not permit them, for it is the last of its kind, and must be preserved by any means necessary.Every single man, woman, and child there has given his soul to Christ, and you estimate twenty-seven of them are given unto the rabid, furious and passionate praise that might get someone labeled a madman in the 21st millennium, but in the present day is nothing but a sign that the Holy Spirit rests in their souls. They are eager to spread The Word and begin the Sacred Work of tearing down the False Imperium, but you hold them in check, for if you are to bring about the Heavenly Kingdom, you must determine a proper course of action. Your Church holds 440 Throne Gelt to its name, enough to feed a family of five for a year's time, but a mere pittance otherwise, and there are 81 in your congregation, but you estimate 120 could be jammed into the side-tunnel where you extol the praises.If you are to spread The Faith, you must first go about expanding the Church or acquiring another, and if you are to convert anyone who hasn't seen the miracles which God's Mercy works, you must improve your Oratory Skill to an Adequate standard. Perhaps most importantly of all, you must find a way to print more copies of the Holy Bible, and transmit your Holy Message to the teeming masses of the deep-vault, who need the Lord the most.>> Having listened to the Lord in your heart, you determine that the first step to ensuring the spark of Christianity enflames a wildfire is to-> Focus on bringing in new converts, for the Glory of God is at hand!> Focus on fanaticizing the faith of those already in your congregation!> Focus on furthering expanding the humble church, or finding a better place!> Focus on something else entirely! [Write-In]>> Longinus Petrus, Prophet of Christ>> Status: Healthy, if physically and mentally scarred>> Traits:> Veteran Guardsman, (-20 to Combat Rolls)> Indomitable Will, (-20 to Willpower Rolls)> High Eta-class Psyker (May attempt Biomancy)>> Equipment:> Guard-standard Lasgun, 4 charge packs> Guard-standard Helmet> Guard-standard Flak Vest> Well-worn working clothes>> The Unnamed Church>> Doctrine:>> God is always everywhere, all-powerful, all-knowing, created all things, and loves all people.>> This reality has been corrupted by the devil, but one day God will fix it.>> All people are tainted by sin, but can be saved by Jesus Christ's sacrifice.>> Those who die without accepting Christ are damned to eternal hellfire, but those who repent are sent to be with God in paradise.>> 81 Church Members> 27 Fanatical Christians> 54 Adherent Christians>> Resources:> 440 Throne Gelt> [NO CONT.]
>>3421266>> Focus on bringing in new converts, for the Glory of God is at hand! we are legion for we are many>> God is always everywhere, all-powerful, all-knowing, created all things and loves all people.
>>3421266wait cant we make copies of the bible?Or maybe remember all of it in our head?
>>3421280That's not a choice for Doctrine, that's a list of what the Church believes at the moment. You can propose additions, but actually changing Doctrine requires scriptural justification, or one hell of an argument.
>>3421283For that, you'd need a printing press, plenty of paper, and a handful of fanatics to crew the thing. You have no idea where one could be found but you've already begun memorizing the Bible, and with your level of dedication, estimate it'll be another half a year before you can recite it verbatim.
>>3421283we could make the orange bible from dune or "retranslate" the bible to Gothic and adapt to the times ( ala new testament) by adding a more martial god ( Jesus joining the Roman empire and becoming the emperor and being crucified by "the enemy , etc)
>>3421291> Revelation 22:18-19 “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."Adding books onto the Bible is a huge no-no, but there's nothing saying you can't start writing another.
>>3421266To put doctorine we should add a tithes. 5% of income every month or so. Some one can word it better then I but should give us a passive income we can spend on holy things like soup kitchens and lasguns.>focus on expanding the humble church so that we can congregate more members.
>>3421318let's make a community service Mormon style to help the congregation and the church
>>3421280>>3421318Note, you could attempt to do both, but it'd be at little over half-efficiency. Not any less likely to succeed, mind, but less likely to generate impressive results.
>>3421325Always an option, but I didn't think to include it. Note, going door-to-door preaching Christianity is a dangerous thing to do in the grim darkness of the 42nd millennium.
>>3421327Ahh does adding a doctorin cost an action?>>3421325Yeah we should try to do many community service things Cleaning up the hives giving food to the homeless etc. Be good croissants and humble about it!
>>3421338I swear I wrote Christians and my phone did this to me
>>3421338ho ho ho les a eat la baguette
>>3421338>Ahh does adding a doctorin cost an action?It does not, but when the Church gains many more members, more controversial ones may require some convincing. Community service is a great way to improve your Reputation, but distributing food will take a significant chunk out of your Treasury each week.>>3421338>>3421340>Be good croissants and humble about it!Look into your heart, you know it to be true.
>>3421359Damnation, I meant to spoil that image. Oh well, no use crying over spilled milk.
I'll give you twenty more minutes to come up with a decision, otherwise we're instituting a Doctrine of community service and combining congregation growth and church expansion.
>>3421325As we are the only two voting rn should we conceed to this to speed it along>>3421408It sounds good to me.
>>3421408me too
>>3421440>>3421413wrong post
>>3421408I agree
>>3421280>> Focus on bringing in new converts, for the Glory of God is at hand! we are legion for we are many>>Focus on expanding the humble church so that we can congregate more members.>>Establish a Doctrine of Community Service, and task the members of the congregation with helping others in their day-to-day lives.> Roll 2d100, best of three, because these are [Easy] tasks
Rolled 48, 55 = 103 (2d100)>>3421460
Rolled 58, 55 = 113 (2d100)>>3421460
Rolled 90, 84 = 174 (2d100)>>3421460
>>3421467he on heaven be praise
>>3421467CHRISTIANITY Y'ALL
Rolled 5 + 2 (1d6 + 2)>>3421463>>3421464>>3421467> 48, 55Not the worst results, but they could be better.> Rolling 1d6+2 for Reputation gained> +2 for Benefiting the Community
>>3421472?? i thought it was best of three?
>>3421468>>3421469'Tis roll under my brothers. The closer to The One, the better.>>3421472On the upside, your Reputation has improved to the extent that further conversion rolls in the Kabburius Vault will receive a -5 bonus.> Roll 1d12+4 to see how many wayward souls are brought to follow The Way
Rolled 7 + 4 (1d12 + 4)>>3421477
>>3421475See >>3421093
>>3421477QM are you retarded?Did you not see the third roll?
Rolled 12 + 4 (1d12 + 4)>>3421477
Rolled 11 (1d12)>>3421477
>>3421480Eleven souls, praise be.
>>3421460>>3421485Best of three, roll-under like the 40k RPG's. Lower is better.
>>3421485Are you retarded and incapable of reading like four people said lower is better.
>>3421490CHRISTIANITY Y'ALL
>>3421496I am retarded
Rolled 3 (1d4)>>3421485See >>3421093> Rolling 1d4 for TitheThey're in extreme poverty, so the equation for Tithes is Church Members divided by ten rounded down, then divided by two.
>>3421498This is a 40k fanfic on >>>/qst/, we're all retarded.
>>3421501They give what they can blessed be. Let us repay there generosity by aiding the community
We need a way to obtain more funds, so we can spread the lords name to the people faster.
>>3421545Maybe taking some donations
I was thinking more infiltration. take a page from those genestealer heretics.
>>3421559Infiltrate who?
>>3421545I think we should try to do this as good hearted as possible as long as possible>>3421549I'm with him tithe and donations will be most of our income and we will spend it on charity and good will.
>>3421565We could get the fanatics to move in to the church and take their money for living accommodation
we also could raid some peoples homes for valuables
>>3421568We would better off using it more traditionally hated communities would be easily found out as heritcal.>>3421581That's not very godly of us.
>>3421595We need to get some funds for equipment
again take a page from the genestealers. create an organization, then slowly but surely convert them. doing this we will have more members therefore more funds to spread the good word.
>>3421619What legal organisation we can create that can be recognised
>>3421463>>3421464>>Focus on bringing in new converts, for the Glory of God is at hand! we are legion for we are many> Mark 16:15 “And he said unto them, "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.”>>Focus on expanding the humble church so that we can congregate more members.> Ephesians 4:12 "For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:">>Establish a Doctrine of Community Service, and task the members of the congregation with helping others in their day-to-day lives.> Hebrews 6:10 "For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister."So you preach unto the people, and so they begin their Blessed Work. You teach the congregants that if they are to give themselves unto the Christ, they must live as Brothers and Sisters in Christ, and put the needs of others before themselves. Each moment your tongue confesses a new Truth, compelled by the Mercy of God, and such is His Mercy, those sitting crouched upon the dust-strewn floor of the church are reduced to tears, for they have never heard such Words, and they are repentant, for to this day, they have had no family beyond their blood, and they have lived selfish lives, seeking only to render lesser good unto themselves, rather than Greater Good unto the God of Nations.Only a handful live in the church each day, the overwhelming majority of the congregation dwell else-where, some in the cramped tunnel slums of the mid-vault, and most nowhere but the nooks and crannies of the tunnels. Still, the Holy Spirit compels them to contribute to their own lives and do good unto their neighbor, and so they do, sheltering the abandoned in their own homes, giving scraps of their hard-won food to the even less fortunate, and laboring day and night to clean the trash thoughtlessly littered almost everywhere the teeming masses of mankind can be found.The impact they make is of little difference, but to your humble congregation, the subtle change around them means everything, and soon, word of what the Guardsman's Temple does for others begins to spread. Surely enough, curious folk come, in their tens and twenties. They hear what you have to say, and some eleven are moved enough to give their lives to Christ, but most have hardened their hearts, wish the church well, and return to their squalid states, albeit, with very much to think about.You are immersed in contemplation of the scripture when one of the former gangers enters your inner sanctum. It is a humble affair, with a cot, a small, rusted table, and non-functioning wash basin, no different from any other congregant's chamber, but it is a Gift from God and you treasure it all the same. He bows his head in reverent respect as you do the same, then he speaks of what his intrepid questioning has discovered.> [CONT.]
>>3421629Listening with an open ear, you consider what he has to say, and thank him for his service. Another twenty minutes of satisfying his theological thirst come to pass, and another twenty more of prayer that the situation of his cousin, who suffers a tumor in the left eye will recover in time. The newly converted thug understands that miracles are rare and precious things, but asks if you can do something to heal him, all the same. You promise him you'll ask God about it, and do what His Voice tells your soul.When he leaves, it's with tears in bloodshot eyes and you consider the rumors he's uncovered. Apparently, a smuggler by the name of Kwarth has a set of slightly-used tunnel excavation equipment he's willing to part with for 2,500 Throne Gelt, 2,200 for you, since the church-goer's gang was once a frequent client. Alternatively, you could purchase a set of hand-tools for 500 apiece, and set a volunteer to chipping out the steel and then the stone, but such a project would take months, rather than weeks, and the end result would be crude at best. 2,500 is certainly a significant sum, and taking the mere 40 you've received from a weekly tithe into account, you have a great deal to think about.>> In regard to the ganger's cousin, you'll-> Attempt to heal the young girl in secret, for no-one else needs to see the Hand of God Touch her to know His Presence is near.> Attempt to heal the young girl before the whole of the church, for when they have seen God's Mercy in the flesh, how can they deny Him?> Pray that she recovers independent of your power, for you aren't certain you can truly handle the miraculous power within your soul.>> As for the remainder of the church, you'll-> Focus on bringing in new converts, for the Glory of God is at hand!> Focus on fanaticizing the faith of those already in your congregation!> Focus on finding a cheaper way to go about expanding the humble church!> Focus on something else entirely! [Write-In]>> Longinus Petrus, Prophet of Christ>> Status: Healthy, if physically and mentally scarred>> Traits:> Veteran Guardsman, (-20 to Combat Rolls)> Indomitable Will, (-20 to Willpower Rolls)> High Eta-class Psyker (May attempt Biomancy)>> Equipment:> Guard-standard Lasgun, 4 charge packs> Guard-standard Helmet> Guard-standard Flak Vest> Well-worn working clothes> [CONT.]
>>3421629>>3421631>> The Unnamed Church>> Reputation: 11. The small, good-natured cult of an obscure Imperial Saint in the middle-vault. >> Doctrine:>> God is always everywhere, all-powerful, all-knowing, created all things, and loves all people.>> This reality has been corrupted by the devil, but one day God will fix it.>> All people are tainted by sin, but can be saved by Jesus Christ's sacrifice.>> Those who die without accepting Christ are damned to eternal hellfire, but those who repent are sent to be with God in paradise.>> All who've accepted Christ's sacrifice are Brothers and Sisters in the spirit, and part of a loving family that will endure for an eternity after their passing.>> A servant of Christ can't live for themselves, they must do their best to help their family in the Church and give back to the community.>> 92 Church Members> 31 Fanatical Christians> 61 Adherent Christians>> Resources:> 480 Throne Gelt> [NO CONT.]
>>3421631>> In regard to the ganger's cousin, you'll-> Attempt to heal the young girl in secret, for no-one else needs to see the Hand of God Touch her to know His Presence is near.>> As for the remainder of the church, you'll-> Focus on finding a cheaper way to go about expanding the humble church!
>>3421581That's not very pious anon.>>3421603>>3421619>>3421625You could always go for a raid on some gangers, but that opens up a nasty bag of worms. Or you could go the full Nurgle route, and focus on converting the wretched deep-vaulters en-masse, then rising up.
>>3421631Also OP what does the excavation tool entail other than chipping away rock and steel??
I've just had a thought. Why dont we hire an artist to paint christ to raise awareness on Christianity.
>>3421643It's a large, diamond-tipped drill that automates most of the process. You could probably re-purpose it into a nasty melee weapon, but the potential for tool use is incredible.
>You could always go for a raid on some gangers, but that opens up a nasty bag of worms. Or you could go the full Nurgle route, and focus on converting the wretched deep-vaulters en-masse, then rising up.This is what i was thinking about at the tail end.
>>3421648>spraying Christian graffiti on public placesDefinitely one way to reach the masses.
>>3421653We also dont have any ranged weaponry other than our lasgun
>>3421653Depending on how you choose to view mutations, Christianity could have a massive appeal to many of the hideously deformed deep-vault subhumans.
Rolled 4 + 1 (1d4 + 1)>>3421657The congregation does have 1d4+1 Crude Autoguns and a smattering of Stubbers, but nothing that an Arbite wouldn't scoff at.
>>3421659Maybe some minor mutations but sooner or later well need to start the 'Great Culling'
>> In regard to the ganger's cousin, you'll->Attempt to heal the young girl in secret, for no-one else needs to see the Hand of God Touch her to know His Presence is nearLets not provoke jealousy. >>As for the remainder of the church, you'll-> Focus on finding a cheaper way to go about expanding the humble church!
>>3421661Apparently the congregation takes Luke 22:36-38 quite seriously.
>>3421631> Attempt to heal the young girl before the whole of the church, for when they have seen God's Mercy in the flesh, how can they deny Him? ( if we somehow fail , let us take the blame of not being “ good” not the girl )> Focus on bringing in new converts, for the Glory of God is at hand!
>>3421631In regards to the cousin you will>attempt to heal the young girl before the church and offer our blessing to any who we can aid.> continue to focus on community projects such as spending 2/3s of the tithe in a soup kitchen for the hungry and gaining more converts. Hopfully one will donate excavation tools in time.
>>3421680Actually this has my support
>>3421659I would think we view then similarly to how jesus did lepers. Treat them as brothers and heal who we can. They are not abandoned by god through cruel circumstance.>>3421648This is a good idea we should get the manual tools and have an expert carve a church for us over months of time.>>3421640I would say let us raid gangers only in defense of our community. If they are attacking we will protect.Next turn we can buy those hand tools and look to the best among us to carve a beautiful church.
>>3421680+1
Rolled 99 - 20 (1d100 - 20)>>3421680>>3421687>>3421692>>3421703>> Roll 1d100-10 to heal the sick and cleanse the tainted, best of two, because this is a [Medium] task> -20 for Willpower, +10 for Lack of Experience>> 40 or lower, and hope for your sake I don't roll too high.>> Roll 1d100-20 to earn the goodwill of the community with a soup kitchen> -20 for Doctrine
79 oh literal god
Rolled 90 (1d100)>>3421721> 99Fuck, them's TZEENTCH dubs.> Roll 1d100-30 to repel the daemon, best of one, because this is a [Hard] task> -20 for Willpower, -10 for Fanaticism
>>3421725Thank God that you'll have to roll lower than mine.
Rolled 20 + 10 (1d100 + 10)>>3421721
Rolled 24 + 30 (1d100 + 30)>>3421725God help us
>>3421737I'll take this for the healing itself. Now all I need is for an anon to roll to banish the daemon.
>>3421737>>3421739Fuck meant to do minus blessed be the lord for the good rolls
Rolled 40 - 60 (1d100 - 60)newfag here
>>3421739And so He has. Anyone besides this anon want to give me a soup kitchen roll, since he's rolled twice?
>>3421746>he got the subtraction right on his first tryBased.Come to think of it, best of three for the soup kitchen roll, considering the context.
> Roll 1d100-20 to help the community, best of three, because this is an [Easy] task
Rolled 44 - 20 (1d100 - 20)
>>3421755>dubs status:> checkedAre the rest of you anons still there?
If no-one else rolls in the next half an hour, we'll take anon's 44 and run with it.
Rolled 16 (1d100)>>3421783I thought I couldnt roll for soup kitchen as I already stole two.Here is my soup kitchen roll
I just want to prep for our holy Templars
>>3421807It's fine, I'll take your third roll, but only this once.>>3421808Praise be. Advanced weapons or no, you could do some serious damage to some of the smaller gangs in the tunnel, because advanced weaponry or not, a mob of zealots nearly 100 strong is a significant threat.
wait if we make contact with these small gangs we might get some armed and "trained" converts.
>>3421834Always a possibility, but convincing hardened gangers to embrace Christ's Sacrifice is far more difficult than the downtrodden vault-dwellers.
sure but most of those would be hardened gangers are/used to be downtrodden vault-dwellers who his rock bottom. and here we come a bringing a religion that literally forgives there wrongdoings, instead of turning them into servitors or corpses.
>>3421852True, that's why it's possible. You can click a post number to quote it, anon.
Rolled 25 - 20 (1d100 - 20)I'll roll once.
hey other anon what do you think
Rolled 7, 1 + 10 = 18 (2d10 + 10)>>3421737>>3421807Praise be, the healings and soup kitchens are an enormous success, which isn't hurt by the fact that you exorcised a daemon before the whole of your congregation.> Rolling 2d10+10 for Reputation gain
Rolled 5, 6 + 20 = 31 (2d20 + 20)>>3421866> Reputation: 25An up-and-coming cathedral.> Rolling 2d20+20 to determine how many of the impoverished give themselves to the Faith
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>3421871> 123 CongregantsThe Church is a tad bit crowded, but that's music to any preacher's ears, whether it's the 21st or 42nd millennium.> Rolling 1d6 for Tithe
>>3421878 what did we have in funds currently
>>3421888480 it was posted earlier.
>>3421894so 484 gelt?
>>3421888>checked>>3421888>>3421894Currently 520, as per >>3421878, but the small soup kitchen costs 30 each week it's maintained, leaving you at 490.
>>3421902oh ok. how about this.>give a speech about how the one true God shall save us all with his holy light and how he will forgive us with a smile at the end. this should inspire some adherents to become fanatics
>>3421918I feel kinda meh about turning people into fanatics. Those with normal lives are more useful and helpful rn. Making them throw everything away for the faith is wasteful
>>3421852We could try but I feel like we also have a chance of getting shot by a cynical ganger who thinks we are just another chaos cult trying to lure them in
>>3421924I agree. just some fanatics pad our defense. you know since we still are a heretical cult in the making. but we should do this after we do what you said.
>>3421932We have 31 fanatics we dont have the arms and armor to equip even them. I would argue we need to have the money to even start supplying them before considering to get more.
>>3421934yeah your right how about this we try to find a cheaper way to improve the church and gain some gelt from the tithe
>>3421939after this if we can we enlarge the church and then try to requite some gangers
>>3421939That's what I'm thinking we should gather enough to get those manual sculpting tools and either commission a sculptor or get one of our own if they are skilled enough to work on making a proper church out of the stone. It will take a long time but it will be an excellent foundation for the future and larger congregations.While we are at it we can continue raising out reputation in the community and gaining more faithful which will increase our tithe.
>>3421948Yeah gangers will mean free weapons so they are good to convert
how about we start selling holy water. it will be cheaper than the imperium's seals and will get a quick buck.
>>3421955We could try, no idea if it would workAlso sounds like it may gain the ire of the authority.
We should start connecting the state of 40k to the prophesized end times: demons and devils killing and maiming, and people being devoured by sin. Maybe we could give the people of this grimdark universe hope, and the thought of rapture to holy and beautiful heaven in the clouds. Later on, we could even say the emperor is the beast, or the anti-christ (unless we were super powerful, I would say making enemies is a bad idea though).
>>3421966now that's a good idea but lets not denounce the entire empire yet...yet
OK so what do we what to do lets vote.I say we should wait until we have the funds to get the hand carvers tool and expand then we should try to recruit some gangers
>>3421963The people who would buy holy water would only be doing it out of anxiety or superstition anyway
>>3421680>>3421721>>3421725>>3421737>>3421739>>3421807>>3421866>>3421871>>3421878> James 4:7 "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."The Will of the Everlasting God is clear, you have been given the hands to heal this child, and so you shall, so that none of the Church shall hold doubt of Christ's Salvation in their hearts. When you explain what you intend to do, the former ganger is ecstatic, and on the next sermon, for you do not know whether it is Sunday on Holy Terra, and preach four times each week to compensate, he fetches his cousin for you, and when she is brought before the altar, your soul plunges into depths of grief.The left side of this child's skull is swollen, leaking black bile and yellowed pus, as she moans in pain and can barely move, such is the agony the visibly cancerous mass's throbbing never-ceasing inflicts. Staring into that child's clouded eyes, one a pale, sightless white, and another choked with tears, you are tempted to succumb to great despair, but you rebuke the sin of doubt in the Name of the Savior, and bid the child approach.So she does, before the congregation, and she lays her head in your lap, left side facing up. She is almost a skeleton, rail-thin and riddled with maladies besides the tumor, but looking into that single eye, as the congregation begins to sing one of the hymns you've taught them, you witness a flicker of purest hope that pierces through your mourning darkness, and reminds you of the purpose for which you have been ordained.Closing your eyes in meditation, you utter prayer unto the Lord Our God and feel His Mercy begin to move through you. Slowly, the electric force of the Holy Spirit fills your soul, and begins to flow through your veins, arcing out to strike the child's tumor with furious intensity. This is a far more difficult task than restoring the child's arm to a healed state, and were it not for the absolute knowledge that the Lord's Presence guides your hand, you have no doubt in your mind that you would have failed.As it is, the poor girl screams, contorting in agony as the sickness is purged, the tumor popped, and flesh knitted back into place, and unaware though you may be, the former ganger rose to demand you cease, only to fall to his knees in reverent praise upon the sight of God's Mercy made manifest. Ten minutes of eternity come to pass before the child falls into blessed unconsciousness, and ten more pass before, scar tissue aside, the left side of their skull is the same as their right, and the pain is gone.> [CONT.]
>>3422036You rise on shaky feet, lay the healed innocent upon a nearby mat, and turn to address the congregation when a fractal nightmare beyond comprehension assails every facet of your mind, soul, and spirit. It screeches atrocities most foul in ever-changing tongues, sifting through your memories to fill your senses with illusions of your greatest fears, and attempts to twist the healing force within you to its own ends, and in that moment, there is no doubt. You are engaged in mental combat with a servant of the devil, and enraged by the light of the Christ that has illuminated so many, it attempts to possess you, and devour your soul.But little does the fiend know that your soul is held in the Hands of God Almighty, and before His Glory, this daemon in all its terror, is less than nothing. At the remembrance of this Sacred Truth, the fear begins to fade, and the powers within you begin to crackle and surge in furious denial of the unholy. Your mouth opens as your eyes glow, and you fall to your knees, howling the praises even as your noise bursts in blood, and body convulses with the sporadic flashing of the Holy Lightning.Gathering everything you are about you, an intangible shield of the spirit is formed, and through it, no daemon may reach your soul. "THIS I KNOW IN THE NAME OF THE LORD OUR GOD ALMIGHTY, JESUS CHRIST, HEAVENLY MESSIAH! GET THEE HENCE DAEMON! IN THE NAME OF THE SAVIOR WHO DIED UPON THE CROSS, I REBUKE THEE, I DENOUNCE THEE, AND I SAY UNTO YOU AGAIN, GET THEE HENCE!"A discordant screech sends the hairs on your skin straight, as the daemon recoils, faced by such sudden and fierce resistance. Some vestige of it remains in your mind that you force out through a monolithic effort of will, and as it is thrust back into the Immaterial Hell from whence it came, it hisses with a dozen voices, each at a different pitch. "Huuumaaan, know this, the HOPE that thine cult spreads hast gained my master's attention, and lest they submit to Him, in time they shall be expunged from this frigid waste in a thrashing, pulsating maelstrom of CHANGE that cannot be contained!"You have no patience for this monster, and tell it as much, rising to your feet and frothing in the effort. "GET. THEE. HENCE!" A thunderclap is heard as it leaves your body and you collapse, dead. Or so it appears, for moments later you force your eyes open, and stand before the shocked church, merely nearly dead. Two words pass your lips before sudden slumber takes you without warning. "Praise be..."> [CONT.]
>>3422036>>3422040Some two days later you reawaken to hear that the sight of you crackling with lightning and shouting thunderous praises as twisting, prismatic, and otherworldly light attempted to wrap itself around your throat, only to be banished, on the cusp of a visible miracle did much to bolster the faith of the multitudes. Everyone in the church converted on the spot, over a dozen more fell into zealous faith, and rumors of what you've done have begun to spread far and wide throughout the mid-vault's tunnels.You don't care, and demand to see the child with an urgency leaning on anger. Once you've embraced them, the healed gap-toothed smiling girl, and the ganger who brought her to you, the tears of joy won't stop flowing, and you think the Lord Our God each waking moment for the chance to wipe the sadness from their eyes. Reaching into a sudden burst of inspiration, you have a profound realization.The reason so many innocents suffer so is their lack of proper nutrition, for they can't even find the opportunity for labor to feed themselves on anything but what rats they can catch and garbage they can scavenge, but a solution comes as clear as your old home-world's days you wish you could remember. If the church united itself, and spent a portion of its Tithe earnings on distributing soup to the starving, at no cost save ten minutes of the gospel, there is no reason that anyone needs to go hungry, or unaware of the Messiah's Love!Merely two days after exorcising a daemon from yourself you are in the church, stirring a murky broth and scooping ladle after ladle into eager scavenger's chipped bowls. They hang onto your every word with gratitude once unthinkable to one so Lost as yourself, and over the course of the remainder of the week, dozens more are Found. You do not seek out the injured, the crippled, and the maimed, but when you see them leaned against the wall, languishing at the back of the line, or begging another man for soup because they couldn't stand to walk through the tunnel church's steel door, you do not leave them be.> [CONT.]
>>3422036>>3422040>>3422041A handful are healed without ceremony before the remainder of their peers, and all but one converts on the spot, the last of which simply flees into the eternal night rather than face his guilt. Rumors of what you've done are spreading by the moment, and should your work, soon, you suspect, they'll take on a life of their own, and transition into legend. Praise be!>> For the span of this next week, you'll-> Focus on bringing in new converts, for the Glory of God is at hand!> Focus on fanaticizing the faith of those already in your congregation!> Focus on finding a cheaper way to go about expanding the humble church!> Focus on something else entirely! [Write-In]>> Longinus Petrus, Prophet of Christ>> Status: Healthy, if physically and mentally scarred>> Traits:> Veteran Guardsman, (-20 to Combat Rolls)> Indomitable Will, (-20 to Willpower Rolls)> High Eta-class Psyker (May attempt Biomancy)> Rebuked a Daemon, (Some scent may linger, making it obvious to those in the know)>> Equipment:> Guard-standard Lasgun, 4 charge packs> Guard-standard Helmet> Guard-standard Flak Vest> Well-worn working clothes>> The Unnamed Church>> Reputation: 25. The small, but rapidly growing good-natured cult of an obscure Imperial Saint in the middle-vault. They say that its leader banished a daemon and heals the sick with a touch of his hand, but they've said that about cult leaders before and most pay it little heed. That said, some do, and almost everyone within two half-tunnels has tasted their watery soup.>> Doctrine:>> God is always everywhere, all-powerful, all-knowing, created all things, and loves all people.>> This reality has been corrupted by the devil, but one day God will fix it.>> All people are tainted by sin, but can be saved by Jesus Christ's sacrifice.>> Those who die without accepting Christ are damned to eternal hellfire, but those who repent are sent to be with God in paradise.>> All who've accepted Christ's sacrifice are Brothers and Sisters in the spirit, and part of a loving family that will endure for an eternity after their passing.>> A servant of Christ can't live for themselves, they must do their best to help their family in the Church and give back to the community.>> 123 Church Members> 45 Fanatical Christians> 78 Adherent Christians>> Resources:> 490 Throne Gelt> 5 Crude Autoguns>> Investments:> Small Soup Kitchen, [-30 Throne Gelt][+1d6 Reputation]> [NO CONT.]
>>3421922Fanatics aren't necessarily incapable of living normal lives, they're just obsessed with their religion, view every single thing through a religious light, and will begin evangelizing their religion at the drop of a hat. Longinus Petrus himself is a particularly intense fanatic, but willingness to charge into lasfire with a hymn on their lips aside, fanaticism can definitely be a mixed bag. Make of that what you will.
>>3422049>>3422049I say we should find a cheaper way to increase the size of the church
>>3422044> Focus on finding a cheaper way to go about expanding the humble church!Can we teach a self defense class, maybe after every other sermon? If not, maybe it's time to turn some fanatics into preachers and lecters
>>3422064We need to increase our follower capacity before we develop more recruiters
>>3422064Given your experience in the Imperial Guard, you're likely one of the most dangerous men in a dozen tunnels. You certainly can, and instructing the more charismatic fanatics to preach is always a possibility but keep in mind, until you can get a printing press going, you'll only have one Holy Bible and that may hamper your follower's efforts to evangelize.>>3422070At the moment, a handful of the congregation have to stand outside and listen to you shout, but there's no violence whatsoever over who gets to hear you preach.
>>3422072If we start trying to recruit gangers that might change if we have no room
>>3422044> Focus on something else entirely! [Write-In]Like I said before, connecting this ancient text to current affairs would make it boom with popularity. I can see it now, men and women everywhere fighting for salvation, praise be!>>3421966
>>3422070>>3422072Right, how long until we memorize the Good Book?And adding this to my vote>Offer self defense classes in case other people get any funny ideas, but emphasize that it is for /Self-defense/
>>3422080If the any of the imperium catches wind that we are a heretical cult that is teaching people how to fight in the open we might have some issues let's find a cheaper way to increase the size of the church
>>3422075True, but you'd need to convert most, if not all of a gang if you wanted to begin preaching in one of their larger safe houses.>>3422078That it would and likely give Emps an aneurysm when he hears of it>>3422080Another week followed by five months.
>>3422080We should still do this though but not just after sermons it would be to crowded, do it on one of the 3 free days
>>3422086You can always offer self-defense classes in secret, if you were so inclined.
>>3422088That's fair so that's way we should make our church bigger
>>3422094Not to mention, turning violent gangers into (relatively) upstanding citizens would do wonders for your Reputation.
>>3422096Exactly so let's spend a week on obtaining a cheap way to increase the size of the church
Rolled 1 + 2 (1d6 + 2)>>3422062>>3422064>>3422078>> Roll 1d100+20 to connect Christian theology to the state of the 42nd millennium, best of one, because this is a [Hard] task> +20, it is an Enormous Undertaking>> Roll 1d100 to find a cheaper way to increase the size of the church, best of two, because this is a [Medium] task>> Roll 1d100-10 to train the congregation in the art of Self-Defense, best of two, because this is a [Medium] task> -20 for Combat Experience, +10 for lack of Teaching Experience>> Rolling 1d6+2 for Reputation gain> +2, Fertile Soil to Till the Seeds of Faith
Rolled 3, 4 + 4 = 11 (2d6 + 4)>>3422113>> Rolling 2d6 to see how many desperate souls throw themselves at the foot of the Cross> +2 Miracles, +2 Soup Kitchen
Rolled 64 + 10 (1d100 + 10)>>3422113Rollan for self defense
What happened to the rest of our Regiment I wonder? Afaik most retired IG regiments dump all the troops on one worldOr are we a sole survivor type?
>>3422145"You were an Imperial Guardsman, one of trillions to fight and if need be die for the Imperium, but by some miracle, you managed to survive your deployment and retire onto a "safe" world, but the memories of what you did and were forced to do consumed you, and you began to contemplate ending your life when you discovered a True God to fight for." I guess it's the sole survivor veteran type (or maybe the others in the regiment can be brought into the faith, as guardsmen of the new prophet)
>>3422145There were several tens of thousands left out of tens of millions, God you remember the screams and they were given the chance to select their own vault from a carefully chosen list of the most crime-infested with a guaranteed spot in an upper-vault slum and manufactorum administration or VDF command, their choice. (Vault Defense Force, PDF equivalent) There are undoubtedly several hundred here, but there are tens of millions in even the smallest vaults, and after being separated at the transport, you'd be hard-pressed to find them.
Rolled 15 + 20 (1d100 + 20)>>3422113>> Roll 1d100+20 to connect Christian theology to the state of the 42nd millennium, best of one, because this is a [Hard] task> +20, it is an Enormous Undertaking
Rolled 77 (1d100)>>3422113>> Roll 1d100 to find a cheaper way to increase the size of the church, best of two, because this is a [Medium] task
>>3422148Really nice chapter dude, I got goosebumps. Very nice dude
Rolled 17 + 10 (1d100 + 10)>>3422113>> Roll 1d100-10 to train the congregation in the art of Self-Defense, best of two, because this is a [Medium] task
Rolled 64 + 20 (1d100 + 20)>>3422203
Rolled 75 (1d100)>>3422113>find a cheaper way to increase the size of the curch.Awesome posts btw this is an amazing quest so far.
>>3422148Wait if we are a high eta class psyker how tf do we have healing powers? Because I never heard of a psyker that can heal stuff.
>>3422292Biomancy. We are more flesh crafting then actually healing. We are just flesh crafting in a beneficial way
>>3422292>Wait if we are a high eta class psyker how tf do we have healing powers? Because I never heard of a psyker that can heal stuff.Literally in the discipline's description
Rolled 61 + 10 (1d100 + 10)>>3422113
>>3422352>> Roll 1d100-10 to train the congregation in the art of Self-Defense, best of two, because this is a [Medium] task
Rolled 31 - 10 (1d100 - 10)>>3422356
>>3422357Already rolled for the 1d100-10>>3422352
Is this quest ded??
>>3422662People do sleep and gave jobs you know. Normally you give em a day or two before proclaiming death.
>>3422683Yeah the qm was up till 1 or 2 last time
>>3422203That is one heck of a roll so you're bound to receive at least some breakthrough, but I can't for the life of me fathom how to integrate 40k's insanity in a Christian theological framework. For now,> Choose One:>> Chaos are servants of the devil, and daemons are the foremost of his minions. They fight each other so much because they're cut off from the Peace of God, and tempt mortals to damn them to eternal hellfire.>> Chaos are servants of the devil, and daemons are the foremost of his minions. They fight each other so much because they're cut off from the Order of God, and tempt mortals solely to spite the Lord Our God.>> Chaos are servants of the devil, and daemons are the foremost of his minions. They are Gnostic jailers, tempting mortals to damn their souls and prevent them from reaching the spiritual enlightenment that it takes to ascend to Heaven.>>3422292>http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/BiomancyYou aren't healing, per se, you're warping the flesh back into its proper place. If you wanted to, you could begin mutating yourself or members of the congregation, but that would take some heavy scriptural justification.>>3422230>>3422288Glad you enjoy the updates as much as I did writing them.>>3422662Not even in the slightest, but I've got a life outside of this quest, and updates aren't always rapid-fire.
>>3423504> Chaos are servants of the devil, and daemons are the foremost of his minions. They fight each other so much because they're cut off from the Order of God, and tempt mortals solely to spite the Lord Our God.
>>3423504>> Chaos are servants of the devil, and daemons are the foremost of his minions. They fight each other so much because they're cut off from the Peace of God, and tempt mortals to damn them to eternal hellfire.I would worry if it was to spite Christ that a apostate might align himself with them.
>>3423532+1
>>3423543changed mind
>>3423532
>>3423532>>3423543>>3423549>>3423570>>3423576>>3423611Quite unanimous, and I'm not surprised. Writing.
>>3422113>>3422115>>3422203>>3422282>>3422288> 1 Peter 4:1 “Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;” Your memorization of the Good Book continues, reaching the extent you can recite Genesis and most of Exodus to yourself. It's necessary for you to commit the Holy Word to memory, so that even if the Holy Bible is lost, The Word shall remain. Acquiring a printing press is of enormous importance, but far less urgent than ensuring the hungry do not go without their succor, and establishing a church vast enough to contain the multitudes which flock to the Christ each day.At your request, several of the most zealous in the faith renew their search for carving tools, but to your dismay, find nothing over the course of the week. Looking over the crowds struggling to cram themselves into the motley House of Worship you've erected, it strikes you that even if the lack of space is travesty, you'd much rather have the problem of not having enough room to contain Christ's devotees than not enough having enough to fill a vast chamber.Each verse you commit to your spirit brings new wisdom, and sifting through memories of ruinous woe, you begin to grasp an understanding of how Christ's Words relate to the madness of 42nd millennium. Recalling an occasion, decades ago, when your bayonet pierced a crimson fiend's throat, banishing it back to the Immaterium from whence it came, you remember how its voice kindled a bottomless rage in you, and you only managed to quench the fires of fury through the vigor given unto you through the Idolatry of the False Emperor.The meaning is clear. Chaos is nothing more than an extension of an eternal hell, and the daemons within it are the foremost servants of the devil. They are living embodiments of sin and wage war on mortal men because their betrayal has seen them forever severed from the Peace of God. It is their never-ending struggle to tempt mortal souls, for they know they are damned, and want to drag as many souls down to eternal hellfire with them as possible before the Lord's Judgment comes to pass. This interpretation strikes a chord in you, and there is no doubt in your soul that it is the Lord Our God's Will.> [CONT.]
>>3423737You preach as much unto the congregation, and their parched souls drink in your every word. A lifetime in the Imperial Guard didn't prepare you to minister The Word to the masses of the mid-vault, but the crowd is eager nonetheless, and little by little, preaching comes ever-so-slightly easier. After that daemon attempted to possess you and was only driven back through the wonder-working power of The Christ, it has become obvious to you that the servants of the devil are at war with the congregation, and that they must be armed in the flesh, as well as the spirit. Self-defense is one thing the Imperial Guard did prepare you for, and teaching the principles to such focused students comes easily.By the end of the week, almost everyone in the faith has attained a rudimentary level of combat proficiency, and there is no doubt in your mind that the fiercest of fanatics are more than capable of matching most of the local gangers. Should they attempt to destroy the Holy Church, let there be a gallon of criminal blood spilled for every drop of the faithful!The soup kitchen remains an enormous boon to the spread of the Faith, and eleven more weary souls kneel before the altar to the sound of a cheering crowd over the course of the week. Praise be. At the apex of your latest sermon, a thought occurs to you, that perhaps you should ask for 10% of their earnings in a Tithe, rather than a mere 5%, but you don't want to be a burden upon a people already so poor. That, and you're confident most of them are lying that they have more, and such is their devotion, they would much rather go hungry than see the donation bucket go empty. It is a difficult decision, and you pray to the Eternal God each day for guidance. Should you retain the Faith, He will no doubt deliver you. Rumors of the charity taking place at the church continues to spread, and it occurs to you that neither your congregation, nor the Lord's House of Worship has a name to which the people can refer. At the moment, it's simply Longinus's shrine, or, the Christ-place, and you determine that the sooner you allow the Lord's inspiration within you to decide on a name, the better it shall be.>> What do you want to name the Church and congregation?>> Do you want to ask for more in Tithes, or attempt to receive funds elsewhere?>> For the rest of the next week, you'll-> Focus on bringing in new converts, for the Glory of God is at hand!> Focus on fanaticizing the faith of those already in your congregation!> Focus on finding a cheaper way to go about expanding the humble church!> Focus on something else entirely! [Write-In]> [CONT.]
>>3423737>>3423742>> Longinus Petrus, Prophet of Christ>> Status: Healthy, if physically and mentally scarred>> Traits:> Veteran Guardsman, (-20 to Combat Rolls)> Indomitable Will, (-20 to Willpower Rolls)> High Eta-class Psyker (May attempt Biomancy)> Rebuked a Daemon, (Some scent may linger, making it obvious to those in the know)>> Equipment:> Guard-standard Lasgun, 4 charge packs> Guard-standard Helmet> Guard-standard Flak Vest> Well-worn working clothes>> The Unnamed Church>> Reputation: 28. The small, but rapidly growing good-natured cult of an obscure Imperial Saint in the middle-vault. They say that its leader banished a daemon and heals the sick with a touch of his hand, but they've said that about cult leaders before and most pay it little heed. That said, some do, and almost everyone within two half-tunnels has tasted their watery soup.>> Doctrine:>> God is always everywhere, all-powerful, all-knowing, created all things, and loves all people.>> This reality has been corrupted by the devil, but one day God will fix it.>> All people are tainted by sin, but can be saved by Jesus Christ's sacrifice.>> Those who die without accepting Christ are damned to eternal hellfire, but those who repent are sent to be with God in paradise.>> All who've accepted Christ's sacrifice are Brothers and Sisters in the spirit, and part of a loving family that will endure for an eternity after their passing.>> A servant of Christ can't live for themselves, they must do their best to help their family in the Church and give back to the community.>> Chaos are servants of the devil, and daemons are the foremost of his minions. They fight each other so much because they're cut off from the Peace of God, and tempt mortals to damn them to eternal hellfire.>> 134 Church Members> 46 Fanatical Christian Militia> 77 Adherent Christian Militia> 5 Fanatical Christians> 6 Adherent Christians>> Resources:> 480 Throne Gelt> 5 Crude Autoguns>> Investments:> Small Soup Kitchen, [-30 Throne Gelt][+1d6 Reputation]> [NO CONT.]
I think I'm going to go ahead and order some Domino's.
>>3423755make sure you order the pizza and not the things you knock over
>>3423742>>> What do you want to name the Church and congregation?the order of the eternal one>>Do you want to ask for more in Tithes, or attempt to receive funds elsewheretemporarily raise it to 10% when we can afford the tools >> For the rest of the next week, you'llFocus on finding a cheaper way to go about expanding the humble church!
>>3423758Of course, I think I'll get a small, half-and-half pepperoni and cheese. Plenty of leftovers to heat up for the rest of the week, worth the buy I figure.
>>3423762PIZZA IS ALWAYS WORTH IT
>>3423747>> What do you want to name the Church and congregation?>The churchChrist's Bastion>The CongregationThe Templar's >> Do you want to ask for more in Tithes, or attempt to receive funds elsewhere?No>> For the rest of the next week, you'll-Focus on finding a cheaper way to go about expanding the humble church!
>>3423781support
>>3423771Always. Remainder:> Deep dish > Thick crust >>> Thin crust.
>>3423781support for names sticking to the rest>>3423761
>>3423781+1HAIL HYDRA!
>>3423781The Templar’s is kinda generic though. How about we save that for our elite units, and call the congregation the Lamb’s Flock?
>>3423800Sounds like something you would name after some fanatic's
>>3423804Nah it’s symbolic. Christ is called the Lamb in a shit-ton of biblical verses and shepherd metaphors are common as hell. It sounds religious but doesn’t sound threatening, which is what we want.
>>3423812okay maybe not THE TEMPLAR'S but not The Lambs flock
>>3423804I dunno it’s just Templar’s is a job description, it’s like calling a group of bandits the Vikings. Not a bad name it’s just generic.
Like pic. Except we replace the Templar's symbol with a red cross
>>3423827Maybe the Hand of Christ? Short, sweet, and to the point, plus it ties into some scripture about the Body of Christ.
>>3423840actually yeah. I like this name this has my vote
>tfw my pizza arrived
>>3423859+1
>>3423742>> What do you want to name the Church and congregation?The spark, for it will be the first of many, and the Lords faithful.>> Do you want to ask for more in Tithes, or attempt to receive funds elsewhere?While it might not be door to door preaching lets focus on converting a notable ganger.> Focus on something else entirely! [Write-In]Look into getting a printing press
>>3423840lets call the church Christ's Bastion and our congregation the Hand of Christ
>>3423910we should call our fanatic militia Templars or at least the best of them
Rolled 5 + 2 (1d6 + 2)>>3423840>>3423843>>3423910>> From henceforth, the Church shall be Christ's Bastion, and its congregation, the Hand of Christ>> Roll 1d100-10 to find a cheaper way to go about expanding the humble church, best of two, because this is a [Medium] task> -10 for Search Progress> Rolling 1d6+2 for Reputation gain> +2, Fertile Soil to Till the Seeds of Faith
Rolled 41 - 20 (1d100 - 20)>>3423933
Rolled 5, 5, 5 + 4 = 19 (3d6 + 4)> Rolling 3d6+4 to see how many weary souls throw themselves at the foot of the Cross
Rolled 22 + 10 (1d100 + 10)>>3423933
Rolled 3 (1d7)> Rolling 1d7 for Tithe earnings
Rolled 17 + 10 (1d100 + 10)>>3423933>> Roll 1d100-10 to find a cheaper way to go about expanding the humble church, best of two, because this is a [Medium] task> -10 for Search Progress
Rolled 17 (1d20)>>3423941Impressive.> Rolling 1d20 to determine how advantageous the discovery is, lower is better
Rolled 6 + 10 (1d100 + 10)>>3423933
>>3423947sorry useless roll
>>3423946You've uncovered a set of Hand Tools, and contacted a smuggler willing to part with more for at a 50% discount, for 250 apiece.
>>3423951praise be!
>>3423951Purchase 1
>>3423962+1
>>3423962we should buy one more set of hand tools and have our fanatics start digging while we should start trying to convert more gangers. maybe more from the gang we have contact with.
>>3423975Anon we only have 480
>>3423986our new smuggler sells them for 250 now
>>3423997>>3423951<---
>>3423999what are you saying??We have 480We need 500 to buy 2 sets
>>3423999unless you are agreeing with me to get one set
>>3424021yes i'm agreeing with you id did update the page when writing it.
>>3424030Oh sorry i misinterpret your post
>>3424034it's fine
>>3424034>>3424048OH MY GODthis kind of behaviour could not possibly exist in the salty /qst/ thread
any way we should have two of our fanatics start digging while we continue building our reputation.
>>3424057I'm sorry sir but this is a Christian thread
>>3423781>>3423840>>3423843>>3423910>>3423933>>3423942>>3423941> 1 Corinthians 12:27 "Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it."So you read as you search the scripture for guidance, and so you are stricken with a profound realization. As you preach with the Voice of Christ, so the congregation sees His Holy Work done by the labor of their hands, and so they shall be known as the Hand of Christ. As the House of Worship is a spiritual fortress against the devil and all his works, from henceforth it shall be Christ's Bastion, an impenetrable fortress against those who would see the souls of the saved led astray!You preach in thunderous noise, your every syllable reverberating with the essence of the Lord Our God, and each day of prayer the congregation is overtaken by the Glory of the Holy Spirit! Each moment their zeal against the corruption all around them grows, and each sermon you give, the worshipful crowd is reduced to a raving throng, eager to receive the Presence of The Lord!They worship the God of Hosts, the Almighty Creator openly and without fear, for they know that so long as they hold their Faith, none may assail them! Speech after speech you give with rabid fervor, and each sermon the broken are brought before the altar, so that the Mercy of God may make them whole! Nineteen souls are given unto the Christ, and the sound of the Lord's prayer can be heard throughout the tunnel! Rumor has begun to become legend, and your Brothers and Sisters in Christ say that the gangers view the crosses they wear about their necks in terror, for several among them know that a Judging God sees what they do!It is only a matter of time before the Imperial Cult hears news of what you do, and some time soon they may attempt to rout you out. Let them come! You worship an Almighty God, and no matter their numbers, no slave to an Idolatrous Corpse may undo His Holy Work! All the same, you should endeavor to spread the Holy Word to all tunnels and all vaults, so that if they come, they shall be smote by the numberless worshipers of He Who Is, Was, and Is To Be!> While gangers are wary of the Church and it's only a matter of time before word of what comes to pass crosses an Imperial Priest's ear, the masses are increasingly open to the Holy Message, and grateful for the work that the Church does.> [CONT.]
>>3424092At the end of an impassioned preaching, you lie on a ragged mat, drenched in sweat, when a bald-headed man with a deformed skull in a trench-coat approaches. He moves as if to spit on the floor out of habit, then meekly restrains himself. Reaching into the coat, he dumps a pick-axe, hand-drill, and stone smoothing tool onto the floor beside you, and nods, before speaking in a guttural, phlegmy voice. "The name's Dargon, I'm a smuggler, and I've seen what you do. Dunno if I believe all'a what yur sayin', but yur makin' things better than any fethin' Ecclesiarch, n' I ain't gonna letchu go without. Those tools is yers, n' if ya want 'em, I got more, half-price." He nods, turns to leave, and flinches when you speak. "Blessings of Christ be upon you, friend." After a moment of standing stock-still, he nods again, and shoves the members of the crowd aside as he goes, such is his hurry. This Dargon has given you a tremendous boon, and without so much as waiting for a response, one of the fanatics grabs the pick and begins chipping away at the wall behind the altar with a manic intensity. You rise to your feet, look upon his work, and find it good. A nod is all it takes to ensure he spends the rest of the night laboring, and a carefully placed word, to set up a cycling roster so that he doesn't kill himself in over-exertion. One of the congregation knows where to find the smuggler again, so you send him with 250 Throne Gelt to purchase another set of tools.When you begin the next week, you have a handful of devotees laboring nonstop to chisel out a worthy House of Worship, and between both teams, you expect each week they labor they'll carve out enough space for 10 more worshipers. Not enough to meet the onrushing demand, but enough to put a significant dent in the issue, and soon, you'll have a worthy vessel for the masses of the flood.>> You feel the Christ guiding your hand each day, and the strength of your Faith grows each passing moment. How have you improved?> Preaching comes slightly easier than before, and your impassioned howling begins to reach some semblance of eloquence. (-5 to Oratory Rolls)> The Mercy of God responds more and more to you will, and seems almost eager to see His Will be done upon the masses. (-5 to Biomancy Rolls)>> What is your intention for the next week?> Train the Hand of Christ in the ways of making war, that they might defend themselves!> Furthering the Hand of Christ's efforts to improve the community around them, and spread the Holy Message to all peoples!> Apply a finer touch, and attempt to sway a handful of influential gangers to the Faith, appealing to what vestige of guilt may remain!> [CONT.]
>>3424092>>3424096>> Longinus Petrus, Prophet of Christ>> Status: Healthy, if physically and mentally scarred>> Traits:> Veteran Guardsman, (-20 to Combat Rolls)> Indomitable Will, (-20 to Willpower Rolls)> High Eta-class Psyker (May attempt Biomancy)> Rebuked a Daemon, (Some scent may linger, making it obvious to those in the know)>> Equipment:> Guard-standard Lasgun, 4 charge packs> Guard-standard Helmet> Guard-standard Flak Vest> Well-worn working clothes>> The Hand of Christ>> Reputation: 35. The small, but rapidly growing and increasingly zealous good-natured cult of an obscure Imperial Saint in the middle-vault. They say that its leader banished a daemon and heals the sick with a touch of his hand, but they've said that about cult leaders before and most pay it little heed. That said, more and more do, and almost everyone within three half-tunnels has tasted their watery soup.>> Doctrine:>> God is always everywhere, all-powerful, all-knowing, created all things, and loves all people.>> This reality has been corrupted by the devil, but one day God will fix it.>> All people are tainted by sin, but can be saved by Jesus Christ's sacrifice.>> Those who die without accepting Christ are damned to eternal hellfire, but those who repent are sent to be with God in paradise.>> All who've accepted Christ's sacrifice are Brothers and Sisters in the spirit, and part of a loving family that will endure for an eternity after their passing.>> A servant of Christ can't live for themselves, they must do their best to help their family in the Church and give back to the community.>> Chaos are servants of the devil, and daemons are the foremost of his minions. They fight each other so much because they're cut off from the Peace of God, and tempt mortals to damn them to eternal hellfire.>> 147 Church Members> 53 Fanatical Christian Militia> 70 Adherent Christian Militia> 11 Fanatical Christians> 19 Adherent Christians>> Christ's Bastion> Located in an Isolated Mid-Vault Tunnel> Enough room for 120 worshipers, [147/120]> Sparsely furnished, with no pews or sculptures> Unfortified, aside from a simple, reinforced steel door>> Resources:> 230 Throne Gelt> 2 Digging Hand Tools> 5 Crude Autoguns>> Investments:> Small Soup Kitchen, [-30 Throne Gelt][+1d6 Reputation]> [NO CONT.]
>>3424098> Preaching comes slightly easier than before, and your impassioned howling begins to reach some semblance of eloquence. (-5 to Oratory Rolls)and> Apply a finer touch, and attempt to sway a handful of influential gangers to the Faith, appealing to what vestige of guilt may remain!
>>3424096> Preaching comes slightly easier than before, and your impassioned howling begins to reach some semblance of eloquence. (-5 to Oratory Rolls)> Apply a finer touch, and attempt to sway a handful of influential gangers to the Faith, appealing to what vestige of guilt may remain!
>>3424096>> You feel the Christ guiding your hand each day, and the strength of your Faith grows each passing moment. How have you improved?The Mercy of God responds more and more to you will, and seems almost eager to see His Will be done upon the masses. (-5 to Biomancy Rolls)>> What is your intention for the next week?Apply a finer touch, and attempt to sway a handful of influential gangers to the Faith, appealing to what vestige of guilt may remain!I also think while we are talking to the gangers we should get some weaponry
>>3424112if we are trying to recruit gangers we need to be able to talk better i agree with the weapons though
>>3424098> The Mercy of God responds more and more to you will, and seems almost eager to see His Will be done upon the masses. (-5 to Biomancy Rolls)> Apply a finer touch, and attempt to sway a handful of influential gangers to the Faith, appealing to what vestige of guilt may remain!My Brothers and Sisters, he sees your sins but he does not judge you Unworthy, there can be forgiveness! There can be Redemption!If He above can forgive Saul then he can forgive you as well
>>3424108>>3424110>>3424112>>3424136I'll give you ten more minutes to decide amongst yourselves.
>>3424136actually if we improve our biomancy then we can show more miracles so i change my mind to +5 biomancy
>>3424136+1 was just reading this thread but now that I have caught up with you I'll contribute.
>>3424108Nvm I'm changing vote to this
>>3424112>>3424136>>3424146>>3424147> The Mercy of God responds more and more to you will, and seems almost eager to see His Will be done upon the masses. (-5 to Biomancy Rolls)> Apply a finer touch, and attempt to sway a handful of influential gangers to the Faith, appealing to what vestige of guilt may remain!Do you attempt to reveal the Mercy of God to the gangers, or do you simply preach The Word?
>>3424157Reveal the Mercy of God and properly convert
>>3424163It's a given that you'll preach to them, but miracles can't be lightly spent.
>>3424157Reveal the mercy of God and make a big show of you power to impress mutiple gangs at once.
>>3424166we have to impress an entire gang so i think its on well spent.
Rolled 32 (1d100)>>3424163>>3424183>>3424184So be it.> Roll 1d100-15 to reveal the Mercy of God to the gangers> -20 for Willpower, +5 for Lack of Experience> Let's hope I don't roll too high
>>3424198don't we have the +5 to biomancy
>>3424199>>3424157<--
>>3424157Does the mob of filthy men we impressed count as a gang. Or are they big encompassing factions like the crips or bloods.
>>3424199See >>3421721. Previously you received a +10 for Lack of Experience, and it's been mitigated to +5. Biomancy is an extremely intricate and difficult process if you're trying to heal someone without crippling them. It's not Pyromancy, you're knitting a cripple's flesh and bones back together.>>3424203No, those were a local mob of citizens who ostensibly worshiped the God Emperor, but in fact were faithless. The gangs themselves vary wildly, but most of the ones in this tunnel (hab-block equivalent) are on the smaller side, with around 40-80 members total.
Rolled 77 + 15 (1d100 + 15)>>3424198
>>3424207Ok. thank
>>3424214Still 17 is pretty good
>>3424211>>3424198> 62 for Skill> 32 for BacklashSome minor healing, no issues with the Warp itself, but nothing spectacular.> Roll 1d100-10 to convert the gangers, best of one, because this is a [Hard] task> -5 for Reputation, -5 for Healing
>>3424207Ok
>>3424217/roll 1d100-10
>>3424216My roll determines the level of psychic backfire that occurs, it doesn't pertain to the actual Warp-craft itself.
>>3424219You have to type "dice+1d100+-10" in the Options field to roll.
Rolled 50 - 10 (1d100 - 10)>>3424217
>>3424217/dice 1d100-10
>>3424226herehttps://yuki.la/tg/39120820
Rolled 45 (1d100)>>3424226Anon, there's no "/", you type "dice+1d100+-10" in the Options field, beneath the Names field.>>3424223Hmm.> Rolling 1d100 to see whether any are swayed
Rolled 1 - 2 (1d4 - 2)>>3424232>1d4-2 gangers are converted
Rolled 2 + 2 (1d6 + 2)>>3424233None are brought to worship, but you've made some headway, and will have an easier time next week.> Rolling 1d6+2 for Reputation gain> +2, Fertile Soil to Till the Seeds of Faith
>>3424233well ok then.
Rolled 2, 6 + 4 = 12 (2d6 + 4)>>3424237> Rolling 2d6+4 for converts
>>3424233Lol -1 gang members are converted
>>3424243that one dude left. lol
We should start furnishing the church. how would some pews cost preferably 4, also we need to get that printing press.
>>3424198>>3424211>>3424223>>3424232>>3424233>>3424237>>3424240> Luke 5:32 "I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.” Listening to the digging crews endlessly chip away stone in a vain effort to carve out enough room for the masses, you deduce that the lion's share of your effort should be to convert the foremost of the gangers, for did Christ not come to redeem even the vilest among sinners? Over the course of the week, when you aren't standing before the congregation and preaching the power of the Lord, you find yourself hidden in ganger's safe-houses, regaling thugs with the Holy Message of how their sins can be forgiven, if only they give themselves unto the Christ and repent!Unfortunately, your preaching falls on deaf ears, and while a humble, barely visible demonstration of God's Mercy causes the fatal fever afflicting one's child to break on the next day, it isn't enough to ensure the conversion of the gangers themselves. Luckily though, you've managed to make some headway towards softening their hardened hearts, and feel you'll find your next attempt less disappointing. In lieu of your efforts to improve the community, one of the gangs, the "Nook Knives" is willing to sell you Crude Autoguns at 200 Throne Gelt apiece, but you're too bankrupt to consider taking advantage of such a relatively generous offer.On the upside, Christ's Bastion has grown slightly, and even if the Church is more crowded than ever before, it pleases you to note that you're making some significant progress toward enlightening the whole of the vault.>> What do you do throughout the course of this next week?> Task some of the congregation employed in the Manufactorums to smuggle tools to the church!> Continue your efforts to convert influential gangers to Christianity, only emboldened by your failure!> Task some of the children in the Hand of Christ to ask the more affluent vault-dwellers outside of the congregation for donations!> [CONT.]
>>3424286>> Longinus Petrus, Prophet of Christ>> Status: Healthy, if physically and mentally scarred>> Traits:> Veteran Guardsman, (-20 to Combat Rolls)> Indomitable Will, (-20 to Willpower Rolls)>> High Eta-class Psyker (May attempt Biomancy)> Novice Biomancer, (-5 to Biomancy Rolls)> Rebuked a Daemon, (Some scent may linger, making it obvious to those in the know)>> Equipment:> Guard-standard Lasgun, 4 charge packs> Guard-standard Helmet> Guard-standard Flak Vest> Well-worn working clothes>> The Hand of Christ>> Reputation: 39. The small, but rapidly growing and increasingly zealous good-natured cult of an obscure Imperial Saint in the middle-vault. They say that its leader banished a daemon and heals the sick with a touch of his hand, but they've said that about cult leaders before and most pay it little heed. That said, more and more do, and almost everyone within three half-tunnels has tasted their watery soup.>> Doctrine:>> God is always everywhere, all-powerful, all-knowing, created all things, and loves all people.>> This reality has been corrupted by the devil, but one day God will fix it.>> All people are tainted by sin, but can be saved by Jesus Christ's sacrifice.>> Those who die without accepting Christ are damned to eternal hellfire, but those who repent are sent to be with God in paradise.>> All who've accepted Christ's sacrifice are Brothers and Sisters in the spirit, and part of a loving family that will endure for an eternity after their passing.>> A servant of Christ can't live for themselves, they must do their best to help their family in the Church and give back to the community.>> Chaos are servants of the devil, and daemons are the foremost of his minions. They fight each other so much because they're cut off from the Peace of God, and tempt mortals to damn them to eternal hellfire.>> 147 Church Members> 58 Fanatical Christian Militia> 65 Adherent Christian Militia> 18 Fanatical Christians> 24 Adherent Christians>> Christ's Bastion> Located in an Isolated Mid-Vault Tunnel> Enough room for 130 worshipers, [165/130]> Sparsely furnished, with no pews or sculptures> Unfortified, aside from a simple, reinforced steel door>> Resources:> 230 Throne Gelt> 2 Digging Hand Tools> 5 Crude Autoguns>> Investments:> Small Soup Kitchen, [-30 Throne Gelt][+1d6 Reputation]> [NO CONT.]
>>3424283You estimate carving out Crude Pews would cost 2 Throne Gelt per congregant they're capable of seating, so 20 for 10, 40 for 20, and so on.
>>3424288> Continue your efforts to convert influential gangers to Christianity, only emboldened by your failure!
>>3424293Support
>>3424288>> What do you do throughout the course of this next week?> Task some of the children in the Hand of Christ to ask the more affluent vault-dwellers outside of the congregation for donations!we need the money and if we keep recruiting with out space i can tell something bad might happen
>>3424296with the money we can get more tools and increase the churches capacity much quicker.
>>3424293+1
>>3424299Most likely were just gonna waste time asking poor people. Gang members on the other hand have loot we can use to fund our operations
>>3424306that's fair ok so we will convert the gangers then do what I said
>>3424320Besides extra security is never bad
>>3424341we have the militia fanatics. also veteran guardsman
>>3424345We only have 5 autoguns. Granted I'm sure we can take on a small gang by ourselves.Never hurts to be more sure either way.
>>3424353this is true.
>>3424293>>3424294>>3424302>>3424320>>3424341> Roll 1d100-10 to convert the gangers, best of one, because this is a [Medium] task> -5 for Reputation, -5 for Progress
>>3424394>*best of twoNot best of one
Rolled 35 - 10 (1d100 - 10)>>3424394
Rolled 64 - 10 (1d100 - 10)>>3424394
>>3424396Nice
>>3424286>spread more good will by beginning a operation to clean the local tunnels and improve living condition
>>3424406> Roll 1d100 for effectiveness, best of three, because this is an [Easy] task
Rolled 86 (1d100)>>3424412
Rolled 51 (1d100)>>3424412
>>3424417Can someone roll for me I'm on mobile
Rolled 37 (1d100)>>3424421So am I but here you go>>3424412
>>3424427Thx, I'm using an app
>>3424433Ahh which app? I reccomend clover although you wont find it in any normal app store it's pretty amazing. If you dont know how I can link you to how to set it up
>>3424434That would be great
>>3424434It's called mimi 4chan reader it's more for lurkers
Rolled 2 (1d4)>>3424396> Rolling 1d4 for conversions
Rolled 11, 20 = 31 (2d20)>>3424449> Rolling 2d20 for the ganger's influence, lower is better
>>3424438Probably the easiest way is through installing f-droid and getting it through there. This should have instructions. https://floens.github.io/Clover/#fdroid
Rolled 17 (1d100)>>3424451> One is a thug enforcer, and another was previously involved in another cult> Rolling 1d100 for Heresy
>>3424453Luckily for you, he's a former member of a minor Redemptionist Sect, which has a hefty reward for his head but you'd never betray a Brother in Christ.
>>3424457Oh lord that was risky
>>3424457Good we dont need no slaneshi cultist fucking up our biz
>>3424457What do they bring with them?
Rolled 1, 3 = 4 (2d4)>>3424461>>3424463You aren't the only heretical cult in the vaults, and most are far less savory than yours.>>3424468The thug enforcer has a Crude Autogun and stole 2d4 Throne Gelt before vanishing.
Rolled 3 (1d3)>>3424474The other was armed with a cudgel, and only managed to steal 1d3 Throne Gelt.
Rolled 2 (1d10)>>3424427Forgot to roll, 1d10 for Reputation gain.
What are the effects of bankruptcy?
Rolled 4 + 2 (1d6 + 2)>>3424486Of course, the soup kitchen.
Rolled 1, 5, 4, 3 = 13 (4d6)>>3424487You wouldn't be able to operate the soup kitchen or do much of anything without violence or begging, but the church is far too loyal to the Faith to scatter when times get rough.>>3424486>>3424489>Converts
>>3424492Ok so let's buy another set of hand tools while we can
>>3424396>>3424427>>3424449>>3424451>>3424453>>3424474>>3424482>>3424486>>3424489>>3424492> Psalms 128:2 "For thou shalt eat the labour of thine hands: happy shalt thou be, and it shall be well with thee."Each waking moment, you endeavor to further the Christ and see His Heavenly Kingdom brought about on this earthly sphere and all others. Though one may ridicule you, another may hear The Word and come to worship, then go on to bring ten and twenty more unto Salvation. Such is Faith, not all are willing to abandon themselves in pursuit of a Holy life for the Lord Our God, but so many more only need the little push that only one anointed by the Holy Blood of His Sacrifice can give.It comes over the course of the week, when two more submit before the altar, and abandon the criminal gang which once consumed them. They stole as many of their former gang's ill-gotten Throne Gelt as they could, coming to a total of no less than seventy, and came to join the Hand of Christ with open arms, and open hearts ready to hear the Holy Message. So you preached unto the masses, and bid them to labor for the sake of their Lost friends and family amidst the trash-strewn tunnels as tirelessly as those who carve out the Church.So they do, and they did so with furious zeal, scrubbing the profane graffiti from hundreds of walls, and ridding the cramped corridors of countless articles of garbage, which are thrown into the furnace to bring warmth to the cold, and heat the hearty soups which are brewed for any to partake on the end of each day, whether it be taken up in preaching or preparation for the next sermon. The benevolent reputation of the church grows more virulently than any malignant tumor, and this week, thirteen more give their lives to Christ. Praise be!Unfortunately, even with a steady revenue of Tithes the issue of crowding remains. Christ's Bastion has only room for one-hundred and forty of the congregants which amass themselves in the dozens upon dozens, and thirty-eight of the meek are forced to strain to hear the wisdom you espouse in the tunnel beyond the church. Not to mention, each of those fortunate enough to enter must huddle together, and crouch on the rough stones of the floor while you stand behind the rough-hewn altar and evangelize with your hand upon the Good Book.> [CONT.]
>>3424535>> A solution to your financial woes must be found, but what is it?> The Hand of Christ will begin targeting known drug dealers for conversion, urging them to abandon their profession in favor of a modest lifestyle.> The Hand of Christ will begin asking the wealthiest among the tunnel, the cruel manufactorum overseers, greedy stall merchants, and savage gang leaders for donations, and continue their community service.> The Hand of Christ will begin targeting known drug dealers for execution, taking their Throne Gelt, and setting an example for all those who would dare defile the community!> The Hand of Christ will begin embezzling funds from the manufactorums which slave away to sustain the decadent nobility in their paradisaical upper chambers!>> That aside, what shall you do for the remainder of the week?> Focus your efforts on converting the gangers themselves, even two proved well-worth the effort, and it is good that once-stolen blood money is spent to better the people.> Focus your efforts on converting an influential individual, either a manufactorum overseer or lesser merchant, so that their souls might be saved, and their funds allocated to the church.> Focus your efforts on healing the sick and mending the broken, so that the Glory of God may be made manifest through His Mercy!>> Longinus Petrus, Prophet of Christ>> Status: Healthy, if physically and mentally scarred>> Traits:> Veteran Guardsman, (-20 to Combat Rolls)> Indomitable Will, (-20 to Willpower Rolls)>> High Eta-class Psyker (May attempt Biomancy)> Novice Biomancer, (-5 to Biomancy Rolls)> Rebuked a Daemon, (Some scent may linger, making it obvious to those in the know)>> Equipment:> Guard-standard Lasgun, 4 charge packs> Guard-standard Helmet> Guard-standard Flak Vest> Well-worn working clothes> [CONT.]
>>3424535>>3424536>> The Hand of Christ>> Reputation: 39. The small, but rapidly growing and increasingly zealous good-natured cult of an obscure Imperial Saint in the middle-vault. They say that its leader banished a daemon and heals the sick with a touch of his hand, but they've said that about cult leaders before and most pay it little heed. That said, more and more do, and almost everyone within three half-tunnels has tasted their watery soup.>> Doctrine:>> God is always everywhere, all-powerful, all-knowing, created all things, and loves all people.>> This reality has been corrupted by the devil, but one day God will fix it.>> All people are tainted by sin, but can be saved by Jesus Christ's sacrifice.>> Those who die without accepting Christ are damned to eternal hellfire, but those who repent are sent to be with God in paradise.>> All who've accepted Christ's sacrifice are Brothers and Sisters in the spirit, and part of a loving family that will endure for an eternity after their passing.>> A servant of Christ can't live for themselves, they must do their best to help their family in the Church and give back to the community.>> Chaos are servants of the devil, and daemons are the foremost of his minions. They fight each other so much because they're cut off from the Peace of God, and tempt mortals to damn them to eternal hellfire.>> 180 Church Members> 64 Fanatical Christian Militia> 61 Adherent Christian Militia> 21 Fanatical Christians> 34 Adherent Christians>> Christ's Bastion> Located in an Isolated Mid-Vault Tunnel> Enough room for 130 worshipers, [180/140]> Sparsely furnished, with no pews or sculptures> Unfortified, aside from a simple, reinforced steel door>> Resources:> 330 Throne Gelt> 2 Digging Hand Tools> 6 Crude Autoguns>> Investments:> Small Soup Kitchen, [-30 Throne Gelt][+1d6 Reputation]> [NO CONT.]
>>3424286>the "Nook Knives" is willing to sell you Crude Autoguns at 200 Throne Gelt apiece>apieceIs such high cost intentional? It is about 4 times what a poor quality gun would go for.
>>3424536> The Hand of Christ will begin targeting known drug dealers for conversion, urging them to abandon their profession in favor of a modest lifestyle.> Focus your efforts on healing the sick and mending the broken, so that the Glory of God may be made manifest through His Mercy!We shall perform miracles, and bring the weak and twisted to the light of the lord! Amen
>>3424536>> A solution to your financial woes must be found, but what is it? The Hand of Christ will begin asking the wealthiest among the tunnel, the cruel manufactorum overseers, greedy stall merchants, and savage gang leaders for donations, and continue their community service.>> That aside, what shall you do for the remainder of the week? Focus your efforts on converting an influential individual, either a manufactorum overseer or lesser merchant, so that their souls might be saved, and their funds allocated to the church.
>>3424548As per >>3421116, Makeshift Lasguns, (i.e, inaccurate, low-intensity, prone to misfiring) go for 300 Throne Gelt apiece, so you're right, the Autogun price is a bit swollen. 100 Throne Gelt is the default price for a Crude Autogun, given arms dealer price gouging, but they're willing to part with them for 50. The reason tools are so expensive is demand, and the upper vault's attempt to monopolize tunnel expansion through sanctions.
>>3424548>>3424550>>3424553Also, you guys are extremely quick to reply after I post an update.
If we do buy an Autogun we must remember that we lose 30 Gelt every turn due to the soup kitchen
>>3424562I post quick due to your QMing and the concept of this quest
>>3424536> The Hand of Christ will begin targeting known drug dealers for execution, taking their Throne Gelt, and setting an example for all those who would dare defile the community!Just as The Lord saves he also condemns.> Focus your efforts on healing the sick and mending the broken, so that the Glory of God may be made manifest through His Mercy!
>>3424573If we do decide to attack these sinners we don't have the sufficent amount of weapons to be apart of a gang war if we are found out. Maybe if we assassinate them without being found out.
>>3424553+1
>>3424536> The Hand of Christ will begin targeting known drug dealers for conversion, urging them to abandon their profession in favor of a modest lifestyle.> Focus your efforts on converting an influential individual, either a manufactorum overseer or lesser merchant, so that their souls might be saved, and their funds allocated to the churchNeed those founds .------------------------------I wonder how we will preach to the normal citizentry of the upper levels, just at gun point or miracles ? Or if we manage to take all the planet and we look beyond to other systems. Perhaps we should get some common historical books on the imperium. So we can better use historical figures such as the loyal primarchs in our speechs. Even if usually a lot of knowledge is forbidden or too modify. We could be the first in the 40k millenium, besides some astartes chapters, to publically say that the emperor is not a god but a men. Or should we antagonize everything that is imperial ?
>>3424640Should we say that the emperor is a saint but only a man or somthing else?
>>3424711All imperial saint and the emperor are saint ( if we were playing top trumps saints the emperor would be the trump)
>>3424787That classic Christian act of incorporating the cultures we are subverting. Next time let's do this as respecting the emperor will at least slow down the inquisitions spiking of our head by a few milliseconds.
>>3424790We can say he was intended to be the next prophet and forsook god in a blind attempt to do what is right but has only doomed himself and 40000 years of humans to eternal war and damnation.Basically his heart was in the right place but boy did he fuck up.
>>3424535>> A solution to your financial woes must be found, but what is it?> The Hand of Christ will begin asking the wealthiest among the tunnel, the cruel manufactorum overseers, greedy stall merchants, and savage gang leaders for donations, and continue their community service.and> Focus your efforts on converting an influential individual, either a manufactorum overseer or lesser merchant, so that their souls might be saved, and their funds allocated to the church.
>>3424792Sprinkle in hiw The Devil corrupted his works and lessons on how The Enemy ruins the works of good men and we're a guaranteed anti-chaos die hard congregation.Who knows we might even make it into an Interrogators retinue
>>3424874Yes this is very good.the more anti chaos the better.
>>3424798+1
>>3424874christianity is cool because we can can evangelize the Xenos
Rolled 5 + 2 (1d6 + 2)>>3424553>>3424635>>3424798> Roll 1d100-10 to ask for donations, best of one, because this is a [Hard] task> -10 for Reputation> Roll 1d100-10 to convert an influential individual, best of two, because this is a [Medium] task> -10 for Reputation> Rolling 1d6+2 for Reputation gainOnce you break 50, I'll be rolling to see whether or not the agents of the Imperium attempt to "investigate" the church, so it's best to be ready to defend the Faith or dispersed.
Rolled 10 + 10 (1d100 + 10)>>3425311
>>3425328>>3425311Huzzah the good people of this earth donate. Also how do you do minus then I cant seem to do it right.
Rolled 89 - 10 (1d100 - 10)>>3425311this quest is pretty neat.Deus Vult
>>3425311
Rolled 59 + 10 (1d100 + 10)>>3425311>>3425355SHAMEFUR DISPRAY
Rolled 9, 18 + 8 = 35 (2d20 + 8)>>3425328>>3425359Try as the devil might to undo your Holy Work, your efforts aren't in vain. One manufactorum overseer isn't willing to convert outright, but he's made sympathetic to the cause, and gives 1d6 Throne Gelt from his own pockets, an inestimable boon made all the better by the knowledge that his soul hangs on the cusp of eternal Salvation. Meanwhile, it seems the Hand of Christ has touched the hearts of men, bringing a whole gang of 2d20+8 members to convert, with all the resources, armaments, and experience that entails. Praise be!
Rolled 1, 3, 4, 5, 4, 8 + 8 = 33 (6d8 + 8)>>3425388All that they once owned has been given unto the Church, and their evils shall be cleansed by the Holy Blood, to build on Christ's Bastion.
Rolled 1 (1d6)>>3425393That's a significant sum of Tithes, not counting what the manufactorum overseer forked over.
Rolled 1, 4, 2, 4 + 4 = 15 (4d4 + 4)>>3425398It seems his support is mostly sentimental, but it matters little.>>3425388> Rolling for the number of gangers with proper equipment
Rolled 16, 15, 20, 2 = 53 (4d20)>>3425402> Rolling for the quality of said equipment, lower is better
Rolled 2, 1 + 4 = 7 (2d6 + 4)>>3425406> Twelve Crude Autoguns> One Sawn-Off Shotgun> Two Smuggled Heavy AutogunsNot too shabby, not too shabby.>>3425311> Rolling 2d6+4 for ordinary convert gain
Rolled 3 (1d9)And lastly of course, regular Tithes.
We could open a free hospital and use our gangsters to form a knight to defend it and bring “ sick” people from lower hive ( mutants etc ) them send them back to bring more mutants and bring his word to the list
>>3425423Fucking autocorrect
We have expanded quite a lot. Also whenever the IMPS come after us does Christ's Bastion have any bottlenecks or checkpoints?
>>3425423>free, fully functional medical care>in the grim darkness of the deep-vaults>no strings attachedThat's one way to establish a Reputation.>>3425426It's a random side door in a random branch of a labyrinthine maze of mostly abandoned tunnels, but aside from the cramped doorway to get in, and the straight, roughly-four man wide corridor outside, there are none. It'll take them a bit of investigatory work to actually find the church, and a bit more to determine whether or not it's capital-h Heresy. If they determine it is, remember the minor Redemptionist sect I mentioned?
>>3425423That is an excellent idea. We probably can only do a small clinic for now similar to the soup kitchen but as we get more members and funds we can expand it.
Can we send a fanatic to keep watch on the surrounding are of our church and keep an eye on the Receptionist sect??
>>3425441Of course. Do you want them to attempt to infiltrate?
>>3425447Possibly i would like other anon's input where we infiltrate or not. However i would like a guard to keep watch of the entrance towards Christ's bastion
Fine then. If we send a fanatic to infiltrate the sect and if he is by any chance caught would he give up his life so he does not leak info about us due to torture??
>>3425472In an instant. Your creed's the closest thing to hope these people have ever seen, and many of the more zealous adherents are waiting for you to direct them to a fitting target. Should you wish to pursue that route, extremist, one-use tactics are certainly on the table.
>>3425479Then I would like to send a Fanatic to infiltrate the sect and if he can successfully infiltrate the sect i would like him to do info drops in discreet locations for us to pick up. Only do the info drops once he is clear of suspicion. The information can regard a variety of things like; armament, manpower, unit location, contract, expenses. All this must be done discreetly and can no be traced back to us.DEUS VULT
>>3425489I disagree I think we should stay away from more extreme actions. Our current power is in our benevolence. Let's us start acting in this way when another makes a hostile action on us. So that we are only seen to fight and act in defense of our flock not expand in hostility.
>>3425500We need information so if they strike us we will be aware
>>3425502I fear tarnishing our reputation. We can have people on the lookout for hostility but sending direct infiltrators I say is too much.
>>3425504He will infiltrate by being recruited by them. he dosent need to do bad actions in our name. However being cautious wont kill us. We need info about our enemy
>>3424553>>3425328>>3425359>>3425388>>3425393>>3425398>>3425402>>3425406>>3425412>>3425422> Matthew 19:24 "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."You don't know what a camel is, but you wager it's no smaller than the grox a more innocent you used to herd so long ago, and the congregation agrees to the last. The wisdom of the verse is life-changingly powerful, and if the Hand of Christ is to see His Will be done, the Church must take it to heart. Before they embraced the Faith, they were mired in petty, selfish, materialist greed, but now they see that such trifles are fleeting and meaningless, useless as anything but a means to their Holy End: bringing about the Kingdom of Heaven on this earth, and all others.Denying the worldly greed embedded in every facet of Imperial society in favor of the spiritual fulfillment only the Christ can bring has left many among them happier than ever before, but the need for wealth remains, for without it, Christ's Bastion cannot grow, and the House of Worship will remain un-befitting of the Lord Our God. Taking the verse of your latest sermon into consideration, everyone agrees that they should dedicate the remainder of this week to funneling wealth into the Church's coffers, by any moral means available.Trusting in the congregation to fulfill their God-given duty, you endeavor to see yours done by swaying the least cruel of the manufactorum overseers to the Faith. You approach his residency in secret, and not willing to deny an Imperial Guardsman in uniform access to his home, he permits you to enter. The two of you sit in the kitchen unit of his almost spacious, three room abode (practically a mansion by the vault's standards) and begin to discuss your old campaigns, his day-to-day life outside of watching the conveyor belts churn out nails, and eventually, once you've gotten comfortable with one another, theology.It takes an enormous amount of finesse, and no small degree of care, but over the course of several days, you manage to coax out a hushed, guilt-ridden confession that he's dissatisfied with the Imperial Creed. Another two days of subtle meetings under cover of curfew, because there is no true night in the vaults, you manage to open him up the idea of an alternative devotion, and from there, convincing him that Christ is the one and only Son of God, born both Man and Divine in a manger on Holy Terra, to die a martyr's death upon the Cross for the sake of all sin's forgiveness is easy enough.> [CONT.]
>>3425548Unfortunately, he's not yet willing to take the final step and offers a motley ten Throne Gelt from his safe-box in thanks. The manufactorum overseer says he'd like to continue your meetings, and attempts to apologize for such a small offering but you refuse his apology, for did Christ not find the lowly widow's offering worthy, in Mark 12:41-44? He may have much more to give, but his soul is stricken with doubt, and you won't begrudge him the monumental effort it takes to throw off the spiritual shackles of a lifetime.Meanwhile, it seems the Hand of God has been most diligent in its Holy Work. You return to preach in Christ's Bastion, only to see dozens of gangers, armed to their teeth, weeping before the altar. Several endeavor to kiss the ground you walk upon and you rebuke them, for none save the Heavenly Messiah is worthy of such praise! All the same, you are so awe-struck by their repentance that your righteous indignation fades as quickly as it came, and the former leader of the gangers, who wishes to remain nameless before you, confesses that each of his thugs was given unto wanton destruction and selfish hedonism without a thought for their eternal souls, until one among your congregation by the name of Avitus preached with a fiery tongue so wrathful that many fell to their knees then and there, but such was the silken silver of his speech the rest of the remainder soon wept for all that they had done.The gang was exceedingly wealthy for its size, and though its armaments leave something to be desired, the Hand of Christ is not in the position to be picky about what little help it can get. Apparently, in your absence this Avitus felt compelled the Holy Spirit to lead the throng in their Heavenly praise, and did so well enough that seven more souls were saved. The fact that Christ's Bastion is crowded beyond even cramped capacity gives you mixed feelings, but the sudden influx of wealth, like manna from Heaven upon the tribes wandering the desert leaves you convinced that if this continues, it won't stay that way for too much longer.>> What is your plan for the next week, and what, if anything do you want to do about this naturally talented orator in your midst? [Write-In]>> Longinus Petrus, Prophet of Christ>> Status: Healthy, if physically and mentally scarred>> Traits:> Veteran Guardsman, (-20 to Combat Rolls)> Indomitable Will, (-20 to Willpower Rolls)>> High Eta-class Psyker (May attempt Biomancy)> Novice Biomancer, (-5 to Biomancy Rolls)> Rebuked a Daemon, (Some scent may linger, making it obvious to those in the know)>> Equipment:> Guard-standard Lasgun, 4 charge packs> Guard-standard Helmet> Guard-standard Flak Vest> Well-worn working clothes> [CONT.]
>>3425548>>3425552>> The Hand of Christ>> Reputation: 39. The small, but rapidly growing and increasingly zealous good-natured cult of an obscure Imperial Saint in the middle-vault. They say that its leader banished a daemon and heals the sick with a touch of his hand, but they've said that about cult leaders before and most pay it little heed. That said, more and more do, and almost everyone within three half-tunnels has tasted their watery soup.>> Doctrine:>> God is always everywhere, all-powerful, all-knowing, created all things, and loves all people.>> This reality has been corrupted by the devil, but one day God will fix it.>> All people are tainted by sin, but can be saved by Jesus Christ's sacrifice.>> Those who die without accepting Christ are damned to eternal hellfire, but those who repent are sent to be with God in paradise.>> All who've accepted Christ's sacrifice are Brothers and Sisters in the spirit, and part of a loving family that will endure for an eternity after their passing.>> A servant of Christ can't live for themselves, they must do their best to help their family in the Church and give back to the community.>> Chaos are servants of the devil, and daemons are the foremost of his minions. They fight each other so much because they're cut off from the Peace of God, and tempt mortals to damn them to eternal hellfire.>> 222 Church Members> 67 Fanatical Christian Militia> 93 Adherent Christian Militia> 24 Fanatical Christians> 38 Adherent Christians>> Christ's Bastion> Located in an Isolated Mid-Vault Tunnel> Enough room for 150 worshipers, [222/150]> Sparsely furnished, with no pews or sculptures> Unfortified, aside from a simple, reinforced steel door>> Resources:> 670 Throne Gelt> 2 Digging Hand Tools> 18 Crude Autoguns> 1 Sawn-Off Shotgun> 2 Smuggled Heavy Autoguns>> Investments:> Small Soup Kitchen, [-30 Throne Gelt][+1d6 Reputation]> [NO CONT.]
>>3425555We need more room capacity for our followers. So maybe buying another set of tools from that dealer, hopefully that discount was not a one off things. Have a couple of our Fanatical Christian Militia to patrol the entrance and surrounding area leading towards Christ's Bastion. Also maybe arm them with autoguns. I would also like to enact the plan to infiltrate the receptionist sect regarding info about our group -THE HAND OF GOD- so if we are ever attacked we have fore warning about it.
>>3425555Let us>buy 1 set of those hand tools so that our church may continue to expand> set up a clinic with our new income that is open to all and free so that those of us medically trained can help the sick and injured ourselves healing the most egragous injuries when we can.>let us give our new orator access to the book of christ so that he may begin memorizing it himself, once he has done so he can join us in the preaching and spread the good book>>3425571I disagree with patrolling and infiltration I want to stay as demilitarized as possible as long as possible.
>>3425555Regarding the orator maybe send him out to try and coax donations out of the poor and wealthy. Also see if we can re-write the holy book and possibly give it to the Orator
>>3425575Why be demilitarised as long as possible??
>>3425555Labor toiled in the name of the Lord to build is as holy as any destruction of servants of the great Satan.We should expand our soup kitchen along with expanding our church. Buy another set of tools so that we may complete our holy work all the faster.As for the orator, let him go with some of our flock to preach to the workers so that we may have assistance in building up our holy church: making pews to sit upon and crosses so that our flock may have a token to remind them of their faith
>>3425584Most of our popularity is built off of good will and kindness being different then the other cults. If we start militarizing we will be seem just like any other cult trying to force there dogma on others.We need to be different if we want to stand out and make a mark
>>3425609okay when i say patrolling i mean somebody looking out for sneak attack towards our home. However we need Information on what the enemy knows about us. It can not be traced back to us.
>>3425555Lets do the following:>Buy 1 more set of the tools to expand the church>Attempt to write down the holy book on some paper>Allow the fanatics to keep an eye towards the path leading toward Christ's Bastion>Purchase suppressed weapons>Attempt to convert high ranking officials to the cross>Finish converting the overseer toward Christ
>>3425584less militarization right now it s mostly a good way for remain out of the radar.now in 40k, most of the time is common sense even for harmless cults to have some form of fighting abilities. And more or less people are fine with weapons and guards.since we are a former guardsmen, we can slowly start without problems to have a small military force.in regard to the approaching method of conversion, leaving last military force usually make you on a higher moral level. Sometimes it can be useful (and right now here, it s doing a decent job. Gangs, mutants, swarm cults or possible chaos cultists aren t attacking us, being view as harmless for a long time is perfect for create our backbone.... and our space crusaders will arrive with time)
>>3425634What about infiltration???
>>3425627>Attempt to write down the holy book on some paperRecording the Good Book by hand will take 1d4+1 weeks and cost 50 Throne Gelt in resources, as paper is scarce in the vaults beneath the frozen snow.
Rolled 3 + 1 (1d4 + 1)>>3425647>Attempt to write down the holy book on some paper
>>3425638infiltration can be done in a simple but longer way, for example sending someone of our followers to work there. The information that will arrive will be slower, since our guy will need to work is way in to the ranks.or we could convert a minor clerk of that place.we should do it in a similar manner to the way we have approach the near overseer
>>3425653I agree with that and see >>3425509
we also need to brew (?) some holy water and other mystic Christian stuff to bless the lord's soldiersalso being actual propaganda warfare to bring some mutants and sick to be heald and spread our ideology down
>>3425652> Four weeksPraise be! Is Longinus going to be writing it and out of commission, is Avitus trusted to record the manuscript, or is a random fanatic given the honor?>>3425653Keep in mind, most Redemptionists are die-hard fanatics, and while subversion is more than possible, it's a [Hard] task with some serious potential consequences.
>>3425660can he take a cyanide capsule incase he is caught?
>>3425660maybe we should wait then. It could be a bad idea to do it now.
>>3425664You do not have any cyanide capsules, but the former gangers say they once had contact with a poison seller who'd part with that sort of thing for 200-2,000 Throne Gelt, depending on the severity. Knives are always an option.
>>3425670What about biting off his tongue??
>>3425669You're not quite on their radar. They're busy hunting down _ _____ _____ __ ________ and rumors of a ________ ______ __ ___ ______ on top of the usual mutant purging to investigate what they believe is a den of esoteric Imperial Saint worshipers.
>>3425671With the absolute state of vault dentistry, that's tantamount to suicide.
>>3425677I meant if he was going to get caught but bit his tongue off so he wont get tortured. >>3425660Also i would like to suggest we do the re-writing of the book onto paper
>>3425683let not do that manually. QM how much would a printing press cost?also lets show Avitus the good book and make him a secondary preacher so he can either help us convert to our cause or preach on his own.
>>3425683Redemptionists take the concept of punishment quite seriously, torture, ranging anywhere from branding irons, to thumb screws, to ritual flying is a near-certainty for any heretic captured by them, capable of speaking or no.
>>3425705we need to teach him first that a being a good Christian is about being a good person
>>3425711well yes that is implied.
>>3425705First you'd have to find someone selling one, which is quite a significant task. Alternatively you could try to steal/purchase a data slate to transcribe The Word, but that's nigh-impossible to mass produce without several manufactorums under your control.
>>3425671>>3425664I dont feel like you guys are being good Christian's here ):
Fine no infiltration. Lets conclude this.
ok so lets get a third set of hand tools, make Avitus true preacher material, and then try to convert manufactorums owners
>>3425741+1
>>3425741how about we get a forth set of hand tools
>>3425759we only have 670 gelt. Tools cost 250 so we can only get 2 we also need to keep in mind the soup kitchen
>>3425768shoot i forgot
also later in the story, we can marry for a political favor ( priest could marry along time ago ) I was thinking of using the money from the manufactory owners to help people in the under the hive and the lower hive to form an army and manufacture proof that the hive governor and some nobles are in with chaos then get "voted" in office by force of arms
>>3425793I dont think the upper class will stand for that
>>3425798the powerful noble houses get destroyed in the chaos problem them we evangelize their soldiers and second sons and house members them launch a soft coup and mass decapitate the houses for our pick and get elected by force of arms by the lower middle and under hive populous
>>3425575>>3425598>>3425627>>3425652>>3425741>>3425747From what I can gather, you intend to-> Buy one more set of hand tools and task Avtius with recording the Holy Book> Personally commence efforts to indoctrinate the manufactorum worker, while educating Avitus > Assign a handful of fanatics to survey activity in the tunnels near Christ's Bastion> Look into how you might go about unobtrusively acquiring some more sophisticated weaponry> Attempt to establish a Free Clinic [-50 Throne Gelt][+1d10 Reputation] and/or expand the Small Soup Kitchen into an Average Soup Kitchen [-60 Throne Gelt][+2d6 Reputation]Correct?
>>3425814I think so but let's wait for a second anon confirmation
>>3425814Yes.
>>3425814Yes
>>3425823>>3425826>>3425827Hmm...> Free Clinic> Soup Kitchen> Or both?
>>3425837Just the kitchen the clinic can be after we have a better source of funds.
>>3425837yeah the clinic
>>3425837> Or both?time to snowball
>>3425846no sorry wrong>>3425837the kitchen
>>3425837Clinic
>>3425843>>3425846>>3425848>>3425850>>3425858>it's a tie
>>3425860Hey OP im>>3425846>>3425850
>>3425860Let's ask Avitus's opinion then
>>3425894+1
>>3425894+2
>>3425894+3
>>3425875My mistake, anon.>>3425894>>3425909>>3425915>>3425919He says he believes that if the church ensures the spiritual health of the masses, it should also do what it can to sustain their physical health. A clinic might be an expensive investment, but medicine being given to children who would otherwise waste away is priceless. What are your thoughts?
>>3425928let not the children suffer
>>3425928I think soup kitchen first. Better to never get sick by being healthy.
>>3425936could we limit the clinic to children and those in dire states
>>3425928We must aid in health and food We must help the community closest to us first then expand and we must spend our tithe on helping those who give it.
>>3425949amen
>>3425928How much would the maintenance be for both the average soup kitchen and the free clinic?>In b4 we're suspected as a gene stealer cult by the =I=
>>3426008110 gelt
>>3426019Each turn?Damn
But we get a 1d10 and a 1d6
>>3426041first the average soup kitchen gives 2d6 but also our tithes bring a 1d11 in funds we would have to be extremely lucky to just pay it off
>>3426008> 30 Throne Gelt for the Small Soup Kitchen> 50 Throne Gelt for the Free Clinic80 Throne Gelt, all in all, but you'll be gaining 1d10+1d6 in Reputation each week. If you upgraded the Soup Kitchen, it'd be 110 Throne Gelt per week.
>>3426047Keep in mind, you've only been drawing in 5% Tithes.
>>3426041lets increase tithes to 10% and get the clinic and improve the soup kitchen. we should also get pews for 40 people or 80 gelt.
>>3426107Yeah I think it's about time, but if we do get even more people maybe lower it back to 5
>>3426144sounds good
>>3426107I would rather not increase it too much we dont want to burden there lives
>>3426213the 10% is temporary so we can expand the church and the faith
Rolled 8 (1d10)>>3426107Interesting.>>3426213To be fair, you're using it to fund a free clinic and soup kitchen.
Rolled 6 (1d6)>>3426220
Rolled 6, 2, 6, 3 + 4 = 21 (4d6 + 4)>>3426220>>3426227Forgot to add the +2, that's an even +16 Reputation gain in a single week. It seems rumors of a free clinic spread like wildfire, and the faith of the masses follows. Praise be!
>>342623221 new followers? Hell yes.
>>3425814Forgot to mention,> Roll 1d100 to find a contraband arms dealer, best of three because this is an [Easy] task
Rolled 13 (1d100)>>3426239Smuggling for JESUS
Rolled 76 (1d100)>>3426239
Rolled 27 (1d100)>>3426239
>>3426238Keep in mind, this is PASSIVE gain, random, starving and desperate people disillusioned with the False Emperor hearing about the church, and deciding they have nothing left to lose but their chains. If you actively applied yourself to gathering followers, you could amass a sizable horde in short order, but of course, the larger the Faith is, the fiercer the idolatrous slaves of the Imperium will fight it.
>>3426247Smuggling extremely well, apparently. On top of finely machined, smuggled autoguns for 160 and sniper rifles for 200 Throne Gelt, (would be more, but there's almost no demand in the cramped tunnels) your former ganger follower's contact has several sophisticated, if primitive for the 42nd millennium, high-explosive they'd be willing to part with at a mere 300 Throne Gelt a brick and detonator, 250 for you, since one of his biggest buyer's cousin's was treated for gastrointestinal parasites at your free clinic.
>>3426277Could explosive make expanding the church faster?
>>3426291Eh, that's maybe not the best idea without a demolitions expert>>3426277If we take the scopes off and maybe saw off the barrels of those sniper rifles to a more convenient length, what would that change on a mechanical level?
>>3426301we are a veteran guardsman i think we are decently experienced with explosives. also i think ate that point we should just buy the auto gun or make those pews
>>3426311Oh yea. Forgot about that.
>>3426311I say let's make those pews we are expanding in poverty we can but weapons when we have money.
>>3426323I kind of want to try the explosives.
I've got the lion's share of an update written, but I'm too tired to properly do the ending justice, so I've saved it in a doc, and will post it first thing in the morning. Give or take an hour of faffing around. So, thoughts and opinions on the quest itself? I'm enjoying this first thread much more than I thought I would, and I'll keep running at least one update a day as I can access a keyboard.>>3426291>>3426311These are designed for pulping, maiming, and immolating people, they aren't well-suited to digging out tunnels, and even if you've handled plenty of similar weapons back in the day, subterranean explosive architecture is a completely different animal from ruining an upstart Ork Waaaagh's day. Attempting to do so would be ill-advised, but digging explosives do exist, are much more common than military grade hardware, and tunnel deepening experts are the equivalent of architects, not everywhere, but absolutely vital, and there tends to be one in every massive town.>>3426301You would some scopes that could be sold for a pretty penny, and some of the most damaging and piercing bolt-actions money can buy, albeit, they'd be noticeably inaccurate past 50 yards, and outright worthless past 100. Not that ranges that far come up much outside of the ice wastes, and a sniper rifle is precious little help against what dwells there.
>>3426389I’m liking it so far and it’s really interesting how Christian morals go from the default on our earth, to an alien concept in 40k
>>3426389This Is an Awesome thread QM
>>3426389How much do we have on hand?I'd say add buy 1 sniper, and build 2 pews for 10 people each.And most importantly keep a way to contact the smuggler handy, never know when we need his services again
>>3426423we have 590 gelt after the maintenance cost.
>>3426389This is one of the best quests I've seen on the board for a while. I just stumbled across it and read everything so far. I can't even begin to tell you how much I hunger for more.I initially thought the Christian Prophet thing would be a terrible cringefest but your writing has absolutely made it an extremely enjoyable approach to the setting of 40k.Thank you for making this, and please continue to do so.
>>3426389In the words of boratVery niceAnd great success
>>3426389its fucking great. 10/10. unfortunately i'm too busy working to participate at 100%. But if I could I would.
>>3426389great and amazing
>>3425814>>3426247> Matthew 8:16 "When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick:"Each verse that crosses your lips only serves to steel your soul against the devil's lowly works, and strengthen the resolve of those wavering in the congregation thrice over. It is apparent to you that the Good Book is the single, most precious artifact anywhere in this galaxy, or indeed a thousand others, and it pains you to imagine that its ageless wisdom could be lost in a moment to the impudence of doubters, the self-denying rage of wicked men, or even the tragedy of lapsed attention too close to a lamp-post.It becomes apparent that the Sacred Word must be recorded, and as you witness Avitus drink in your every syllable, it occurs to you that two snitch-bats could be smote with one stone. When you ask the young man (for indeed, he is barely a third your age) if he wishes to transcribe a copy of the Holy Text onto another paper, then take up preaching to the downtrodden masses he is downright ecstatic, agrees without the slightest hesitation, and nigh-instantaneously sets into his work with an intensity known only to those of truly mad minds and fervent faith.Fortunately for everyone, (or at least, the small minority that can read) his handwriting is quite legible and he should be finished with a single copy in no less than a month's time! Then all you'll need is to have a Holy Bible in every hab-block is to print several billion more! He seems up to the challenge, and if your labors weren't focused on so many things of such vital importance, you would be sorely tempted to join him. However, the Lord has ordained less vital, but no less goodly pursuits for you.Calling on all-too recent memories of filthy and viscera-strewn field hospitals, then suppressing the memory, you orchestrate the founding of a free clinic. There, no matter how crude it may be, medical care is free to all, no matter their status, and almost immediately, the palpable hostility many in the Hand of Christ worried about is gone. No petty thug would dare risk vandalizing the one place willing to stitch and disinfect his wounds, and no matter how belligerent, no sane gang-boss would call a hit on the church and risk an immediate and furious backlash from the community around them.> [CONT.]
>>3427135Not to mention, word on the street is that Christ's Bastion is armed to the teeth and led by a former veteran guardsman turned insane witch-priest whose mystical lightning can heal any wound or smite any foe in equal measure. You're far too valuable to the community for common criminals to dare waylay you, but it's only a matter of time before even these detail omissions are embellished into the overtly supernatural but all too plausible sweet spot so many snake oil salesmen crave, and reaches the ear of a sneering Ecclesiarch, whose gold-plated cathedrals may humble your own House of Worship, but will remain as nothing but dust when a thousand millennia under the Heavenly Kingdom have come to pass.Each week that you preach, more and more come to worship, and at the summit of what might be your most intense sermon yet, no less than twenty-one wretched sinners fling themselves before the altar! You preach unto the masses, and those amidst the masses not only hear your speech, but bring themselves to confess! Praise be! At this rate, Christ’s Bastion shall be a fearsome stronghold indeed, and after so many years in the Imperial Guard, you know all too well how much damage a handful of men holding a choke-point can do.Nonetheless, when they come they shall come in rabid throngs by the thousands, eager to annihilate the Hand of Christ on this earthly sphere, and omnipotent though the Lord Our God may be, steps must be taken to ensure the safety of the amassed congregation. A whispered word to a repentant ganger whose neon mohawk is shaved receives a firm nod, and not two days come to pass before a second smuggler visits you in secret. This Trevent is no twisted mutant like Dargon, no, his face is handsome and his teeth immaculate, he is clearly from the upper vault, and smuggles its wares down into the depths.All the same, he holds no love for the False Emperor’s creed and respects what the church has done, for one of his largest client’s young cousin was treated for ruinous intestinal parasites at Christ’s Bastions free clinic. For this, he’s willing to sell your congregation armaments most powerful at a twenty percent discount, turning a sizable gross profit into a slim margin of financial subsistence. Your thanks for him does not run dry, in spite of his humble refusal, and he lays out his prices in short order. None of his items are crude, all are finely machined in the upper vaults, and far outpace the wares of lesser arms dealers.> [CONT.]
>>3427135Christianity y'all
>>3427135>>3427140He’ll sell Smuggled Autoguns at 160 Throne Gelt, Smuggled Sniper Rifles at 200, Smuggled Heavy Autoguns at 340, Fragmentation Grenades at 80 apiece, and Primitive Semtex Bricks, detonator included, at 250 per unit. You consider each item in turn, purchase nothing, then thank the smuggler for his time and reassure him that your congregation will contact him again soon. Before leaving he takes a soup bowl at your insistence, and you could almost swear a smile passes across his face.Your meetings with the manufactorum overseer continue throughout the week, and each day he comes closer to rejecting the False Emperor in favor of true Faith, but he cannot bring himself to take that final step within the week. No anger clouds your judgement for you understand better than most, after a lifetime of indoctrination, these things take time, and after so many conversions the signs are obvious, should you continue with a subtle statement here, and a curious question there, he’ll come to repent, and remain convinced that it was his own idea. You may be no master orator, bringing throngs of unbelievers into zealous devotion with a single sentence, but little bit by little bit, you’re getting the hang of it.When you finally decide to face the church’s financial woes by asking for a ten percent tithe, the outpouring of impoverished dredges fighting one another to cast their last coins at the foot of the altar breaks your heart, and you swear unto the God Almighty that you will continue to better the lives of these humble few, or die trying. Later that night, over a bowl of brackish broth akin to those the eager crowds consume, you count out one-hundred and twenty Throne Gelt, and are brought to what feel like boiling tears of gratitude. With this, you are able to purchase a new set of digging tools, commission the carving of crude pews long enough to seat forty worshipers, and maintain both the soup kitchen and the free clinic!Praise be!> How will you spend the next week, and what will the Hand of Christ do?> [CONT.]
>>3427135>>3427140>>3427144>> Longinus Petrus, Prophet of Christ>> Status: Healthy, if physically and mentally scarred>> Traits:> Veteran Guardsman, (-20 to Combat Rolls)> Indomitable Will, (-20 to Willpower Rolls)> Novie Preacher, (-5 to Oratory Rolls)>> High Eta-class Psyker (May attempt Biomancy)> Novice Biomancer, (-5 to Biomancy Rolls)> Rebuked a Daemon, (Some scent may linger, making it obvious to those in the know)>> Equipment:> Guard-standard Lasgun, 4 charge packs> Guard-standard Helmet> Guard-standard Flak Vest> Well-worn working clothes>> The Hand of Christ>> Reputation: 55. The small, but rapidly growing, almost-unthinkably good-natured, and increasingly zealous cult of an obscure Imperial Saint in the middle-vault. They say that its leader banished a daemon and heals the sick with a touch of his hand, but the word of a free clinic taking in even the lowliest beggars, no questions asked or payment demanded, brings more and more in the community to respect the words of a former Imperial Guardsman more than the hollow droning of any Ecclesiarch priest, who’s done nothing but demand evermore tithes to seat their fat arses.>> Doctrine:>> God is always everywhere, all-powerful, all-knowing, created all things, and loves all people.>> This reality has been corrupted by the devil, but one day God will fix it.>> All people are tainted by sin, but can be saved by Jesus Christ's sacrifice.>> Those who die without accepting Christ are damned to eternal hellfire, but those who repent are sent to be with God in paradise.>> All who've accepted Christ's sacrifice are Brothers and Sisters in the spirit, and part of a loving family that will endure for an eternity after their passing.>> A servant of Christ can't live for themselves, they must do their best to help their family in the Church and give back to the community.>> Chaos are servants of the devil, and daemons are the foremost of his minions. They fight each other so much because they're cut off from the Peace of God, and tempt mortals to damn them to eternal hellfire.>> Notable Church Members> Avitus the Nascent Preacher>> Recording the Good Book, [1/4 weeks remaining]>> 243 Church Members> 74 Fanatical Christian Militia> 86 Adherent Christian Militia> 31 Fanatical Christians> 52 Adherent Christians>> Christ's Bastion> Located in an Isolated Mid-Vault Tunnel> Enough room for 150 worshipers, [243/165]> Sparsely furnished, with enough Crude Pews to seat 40> Unfortified, aside from a simple, reinforced steel door>> Resources:> 330 Throne Gelt> 3 Digging Hand Tools> 18 Crude Autoguns> 1 Sawn-Off Shotgun> 2 Smuggled Heavy Autoguns>> Investments:> Small Soup Kitchen, [-30 Throne Gelt][+1d6 Reputation]> Small Free Clinic [-50 Throne Gelt][+1d10 Reputation]> [NO CONT.]
If you manage to convert the manufactorum overseer and ask them to abuse their position to skim Throne Gelt from the top of his manufactorum's profits, you can expect a significant stream of revenue.
>>3427144>Form up a troop of 'Templars,' or 'the fist of Christ' to enact gods judgment upon the sinners>Carve the writings of Christ on stone or clay as prayers (maybe just the essentials), and sell them to those in need.
>>3427153this and ask the smuggler if he can get us a printing press
>>3427146>Station a few of the most devoted and level headed fanatics to guard the soup and clinic lineThe rational might not start something but the desperate and the corrupted would see those as prime targets for terror attacks.>Expand, expand, expandLord in Heaven we are at overcapacity >>3427153Maybe things like prayer booklets instead of slabs? Easy to hide and easier to make (I assume)
>>3427153>>3427167Either or is more than fine, and there's plenty of wealthy individuals curious about what this up-and-coming Christianity is all about.>>3427167>Expand, expand, expandI assume you want to look into asking for donations of digging tools?
>>3427175I guess so? I don't think having more diggers will do much without the tools.Hey how does Trevent feel about smuggling pamphlets to the upper crust? Orrr inviting some of the more susceptible to one of the sermons
>>3427144>organize repairs for the shacks of homeless people, and build new ones for those that dont have any.>expand the church
Praise be!>>3427153>>3427160>>3427167>>3427215All of this
>>3427251Support
>>3427160He says he'll look into it, and while that sort of thing isn't his specialty, he knows a handful of upper-vaulters who might have some archaic tools they'd be willing to part with... For a price. If nothing else, he'll ask around and get back to you in two to three weeks.>>3427167>The rational might not start something but the desperate and the corrupted would see those as prime targets for terror attacks.Good call. I've been rolling for events in the background, and a healthy dose of paranoia never hurt anyone.>>3427179>I guess so? I don't think having more diggers will do much without the tools.The church has enough pull that getting a (possibly "borrowed") donation or two of digging tools from the community isn't beyond the realm of possibility.>Hey how does Trevent feel about smuggling pamphlets to the upper crust?He'd be glad to help, but as that sort of thing's inherently risky and he isn't part of the Faith, he'll need compensation to the tune of 20 Throne Gelt a pamphlet. That said, there's plenty of skeptics known to pay less than acceptable tithes to the Imperial Creed, and he has a good idea of where to place them.>Orrr inviting some of the more susceptible to one of the sermonsTHAT leaves far, faaar too much to risk and unless you have a significant sum you're willing to part with for the effort, he's not willing to make the attempt.>>3427215>organize repairs for the shacks of homeless people, and build new ones for those that dont have any.You really are hell-bent on bringing about a Heavenly Kingdom on this earthly sphere, aren't you?>>3427251>>3427285>> Roll 1d100-10 to train and organize the Hand of Christ, best of three, because this is an [Easy] task> -20, Military Experience, +10, Lack of Teaching Experience>> Roll 1d100-10 to distribute prayer pamphlets to the wealthy, best of two, because this is a [Medium] task> -10, Reputation>> Roll 1d100-20 to service the community by rebuilding its houses, best of two, because this is a [Medium] task> -10, Religious Zeal, -10, Reputation
Rolled 32 + 10 (1d100 + 10)>>3427340>>> Roll 1d100-10 to train and organize the Hand of Christ, best of three, because this is an [Easy] task>> -20, Military Experience, +10, Lack of Teaching Experience
I'll roll another one>>3427340
Rolled 59 - 10 (1d100 - 10)>>3427340>Have you heard of our Lord and Savior? >> Roll 1d100-10 to distribute prayer pamphlets to the wealthy, best of two, because this is a [Medium] task
Rolled 25 + 10 (1d100 + 10)>>3427340Also I would like for Trevent to drop some pamphlet's
Rolled 41 - 20 (1d100 - 20)>>3427340>>> Roll 1d100-20 to service the community by rebuilding its houses, best of two, because this is a [Medium] task
>>3427179calm, thinking about the upper levels is not a good idea.We are still small and we are slowly establishing ourself in this place, going up without some contacts that can help will invite unwanted ecclesiarch attention.
>>3427376>>3427400you are rolling wrong, this is a roll under system.
Rolled 37 + 10 (1d100 + 10)>>3427340>> Roll 1d100-10 to distribute prayer pamphlets to the wealthy, best of two, because this is a [Medium] taskLow is good right?
>>3427421you did it wrong, you want minus 10, not plus ten
Rolled 8 (1d10)>>3427376It'll take longer than a week to train veteran militia, but another week like this will see plenty, and there's an abundance of ordinary militia.>>3427400Praise be!>>3427419The bonus still applies.>>3427421Right.>>3427426To be fair, the "+-" to get what should be a "-" is fairly convoluted.> Rolling 1d10 for Reputation gain
Rolled 5 (1d6)>>3427431> Rolling 1d6 for the same
Rolled 5, 1, 5, 5 + 4 = 20 (4d6 + 4)>>3427431>>3427433Impressive.> Rolling 4d6+4 for converts
Rolled 7 (1d20)>>3427400> Rolling 1d20 for scale of the pamphlet success, lower is better
Rolled 2 + 2 (1d4 + 2)>>3427439> 1d4+2 influential stall merchants and high-ranking manufactorum employees are brought to worship
Rolled 1, 4, 4, 3 = 12 (4d4)>>3427442> They have 4d4 to give in Tithes and will continue to give 4d2 in the coming weeks
Still need the rest of the community service and Neo-Templar training rolls.
Rolled 42 - 20 (1d100 - 20)>>3427447another one>>> Roll 1d100-20 to service the community by rebuilding its houses, best of two, because this is a [Medium] task
>>3427402>>3427452a 41 and a 42
>>3427447>>> Roll 1d100-10 to train and organize the Hand of Christ, best of three, because this is an [Easy] task>> -20, Military Experience, +10, Lack of Teaching ExperienceDEUS VULT
Rolled 78 - 10 (1d100 - 10)>>3427459I’m retarded
Rolled 17 - 20 (1d100 - 20)>>3427340rollan
>>3427495P r a i s eJ e s u s
>>3427495We sheltered the shit out of those homeless, score one for Jesus.I never thought I'd say that on 4chan
>>3427531this is not a ordinary 4chan threadITS A CHRISTIAN 4CHAN THREAD
Rolled 13 + 10 (1d20 + 10)>>3427495At this rate, you'll be replacing the municipal government.> Rolling 1d20+10 for Reputation gain
Rolled 1, 2, 1, 6, 5, 2 + 8 = 25 (6d6 + 8)>>3427545> Rolling 6d6+8 for converts gainedThis is rapidly going from a humble church to a fledgling insurrection in the eyes of the local Imperial servants, and the eventual backlash, both from the upper-vaults and the community's response, will be insane.
>>3427559Please, I just know that one of the "atoning" gangstera will either be an Inquisitor/Interrogator or be in the retinue of one.
Also what type of teaching does our church follows Protestant , evangelicals, roman , anglican or calvinist
>>3427570Such are the risks that the church must take if it wishes to save the souls of the many.>>3427583Longinus Petrus discovered the Holy Bible roughly three months ago, and thanks to the False Emperor's efforts millennia ago, aside from the text of the Good Book itself, he has zero, none, nien preexisting theology to draw on, whatsoever. The Doctrine recorded beneath the Reputation counter is what they follow, and what most sermons revolve around. If you anons would like to add a new Doctrine, you'll need to cite a Biblical verse in support, or get the majority to back you.
>>3427437>>3427559Also, that's 45 converts this week alone. Whew lad.
We might need to mass stockpile weapons. We also need to convert the overseer so we get that holy Gelt
>>3427594>Roll crits on converts>Inquisitor is converted>Jesus take the wheel
>>3427608>We get conscripted by Ciaphas Cain> we convert him> Non nobis domine
Rolled 1 (1d8)> Rolling 1d8 for manufactorum overseer Tithes, and 1d4 for each week to come
>>3427664stingy basterds
>>3427664If he doesn’t convert next turn time to break some tables at the market
>>3427664This man is quite paranoid. Nonetheless, unless you give them any explicit commands, any particularly wealthy and influential converts will remain in their previous positions, albeit, actively subverting the Imperium for the Glory of the Arisen Savior.
This quest is really something else. I really wasn't expecting to ever see a Christian WH40K quest.
Rolled 23 (1d29)>>3427665>>3427674Glory be.> Rolling 1d29 for the congregation's Tithes
>>3427583>>3427594Directly from the book, nothing but the word all taken literally.
>>3427685yeah lowering the tithes seem in order.BENEVOLENCE
>>3427681To me, it's amusing because so much of the Imperium's aesthetic comes from its Gothic architecture, which in turn comes from Catholic cathedrals and so on, so it's more or less full circle.
>>3427694Ten percent Tithes are quite modest compared to the local Ecclesiarchy, that demands a fourth.
>>3427694>>3427699Ten percent is biblical as well, that's what God himself asks for.
>>3427704Yeah but the difference of our church and the imperial one is that we are in full humanitarian mode Also would be ok for our church to convert xenosThe interstellar pact for heaven
>>3427721Who's to say that Jesus, Our Lord and Savior, didn't go around manifesting and sacrificing for all those other races. We sure as fuck don't know but hey if it works it works
Forgot to ask, but I need you anons to->> Roll 1d100-15 to acquire digging tools, best of two, because this is a [Medium] task> -15, Reputation
>>3427741He did make all the Heavens, after all.
