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>>3221640

Many years from now. Not far from home.

"And what a battle it was!" The bard leapt up onto the table, recounting the valourous charge of the small band of knights and how it swept the tide. "Our brave knight slew dozen, two dozen and more of the foul beastmen, finally taking the head of their champion as easily as you might pluck a ripe apple from the tree."

His audience is captivated, the children gasp with wide-eyes at the description of each blow and whirling blade, as if they could see the melee before them.

"Oh, the irony of a Romani coming to the aid of their sworn Cathagi enemies. The Kingsroad Battle-Bear could not have known what would come of that, the adventures he would set out upon..." The bard smiles at the children's young eyes begin to droop, and some of the adults too. The excitement of the battle has worn off and the hour grows late indeed. "But that is a tale for the well-rested, I think..."

"Aye, that there storm don't look like it be letting up anytime soon." The innkeep grimaces, the hatches clacking under the onslaught. "Let's all get some shuteye, and our guest here can tell continue once we break our fast."

Although there are protests and stubborn refusals from the children to withdraw for the night, the defiance is swiftly brought to heel by the threat of no further stories at all. Despite the noise of the storm and the ever present threat of the Foe under the Twin Sister moons, the children rest easily that night.

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>>3221652

Tunegan, 15th Day of Savrimun, 883 A.C.E, The Aubres-Fallavon Border, Present Day

The young beastman watched the bodies swinging from the tree in sullen silence. Ugnort shuffled up behind him, approaching cautiously. The new warchief rarely acted impetuously, but Ugnort had noticed that regrettable hunting accidents or other misfortunes often befell those that challenged or disrespected his leader.

"We should take down. Bring to Ancestor Grove." Ugnort spoke softly, a sad bleat in his tone.

"No. Leave them. People make remember 'mercy' of pigskins." Craven shook his head, his sullen mood turning to anger. "Threehorn was fool. Me said him wait my arrival, instead he attack."

"This cost him his life." Ugnort shrugged, it was not their people's way to speak ill of the dead.

"This cost him his warrior's lives as well. A third of our fighting number, Ugnort. Gone." Ugnort said nothing, only watched as Craven's eye flickered across the green grass of their part-time home. It had been good here on this Man-border, even during Time-Of-Snow. This region had offered cover enough from the treeline, hunting was plentiful so they did not need to resort to the risky business of pillaging too often. Even then, seldom patrolled, his tribe had been able to pilfer, loot and scavenge more than what they would usually get away with. No more, not after this. According to the survivors, it was Men-In-Iron that killed their brothers.The Men-In-Iron skins would come to hunt them, Ugnort had no doubt of that. The Men-In-Iron always came. Craven spoke, his decision final. "We go to Woods-of-Spirits. Fae help, give shelter. Tribe safe."


"Is that wise?" The Fae could be capricious. Their people may find food and shelter yes, but the Fae never gave such things without expecting something in return. That something was almost always blood, one way or another.

Craven stormed away without answer, his back turned to the hanging tree with his warriors draped from it. Ugnort remained, wondering what to tell their she-mates. Although the First Folk were occasionally reminded of the cruelty of Man, Ugnort suspected that Craven never forgot. Craven seldom forgot, or forgave, anything.

Red = Beast tongue

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Tunegan, 15th Day of Savrimun, 883 A.C.E, Central Aubres, Present Day

To your surprise, ‘Tracker’ is apparently a respected family name in the Wastelands, to human and snakefiends alike. While many over the years have tried and failed to rear domesticated herds of Wasteland Mustangs the Trackers have always loyally stuck to the tradition of capturing truly wild specimens and trading them on. It is a philosophy that you suspect is more founded tradition rather than business sense, but one cannot deny that the Trackers have had nothing but success in that harsh lawless land compared to those who would keep the coveted Mustangs captive.
Some of this you learn from Tracker Jean herself but you also find out an unanticipated source of information in your common-born squire Mikail, who the caravaneers are more willing to chat amiably with than a noble like yourself. Eventually you deign to speak to the woman even when not strictly required and, following the discovery of your shared interest is horsemanship and breeding, even seek out such conversations.

”Miss Jean.” You begin your retort to her latest statement, referring to the Wastelander with a fairly lofty title for one of her station despite their people’s lack of peerage, though wealth and influence alone probably shouldn’t entitle her to the term. If Tracker Jean notices your politeness she makes no mention of it. ”I am not saying that the Northern Romani crossbreed is superior to the Mustang, merely that it exhibits many of the virtues of the breed without the unruliness in temperament and utility.”

”Hah! In the same way a pet housecat is comparable to a tiger, maybe.” Tracker Jean laughs in your face, quite unladylike. You’re not unused the derisive laughter of Romani women of course, used to keep their men’s lofty ambitions in check. But you detect no guile in the foreign woman, merely genuine entertainment. ”Tell me, Sir Knight, have you read Brother Benedict’s works? Specifically his History from the Saddle collections?”

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OOC Note
Hopefully this language will make things a tad clearer as conversation continues, so I don't have to explain in character each time. Forgive me if this does not exactly capture the historical accuracy of such titles.

Lord/Lady = Landed Noble (married or not)
Young Lord/Lady = Landed Noble (not of age)
Monsieur/Mademoiselle = Unlanded Noble (unmarried)
Monsieur/Madame = Unlanded Noble (unmarried)
Sir/Sire = Knighted noble
Father/Mother/Brother/Sister = Member of the cloth (or any fellow temple-goer on Sendag)
Miss = Unmarried/Child commoner woman
Master/Madam = Married commoner (usually only when they are well-to-do in commoner society)

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>Reasonable / Equal Social Standing
>60DC
>Purebred Warhorse +2DC
>62DC

Note: Treating as equivalent due the lack of weight your rank holds to her.
0 = You do not manage to conceal your surprise at the fact that Tracker Jean can even read. +0 Trade Contacts.
1 = You’ve heard the name, but your academic knowledge in your hobby is sadly lacking. Tracker Jean forgives your amateur earnestness. +1 Trade Contact.
2 = Brother Benedict is required reading for ‘Hoofheads’ such as yourself. Tracker Jean admits you at least know the academics of the hobby, even if your opinion is plain wrong. +2 Trade Contacts.
3 = Have you read him? You can quote ‘History from the Saddle’ practically verbatim. Tracker Jean is delighted to find someone who takes such an avid interest in the art of horsemanship and breeding. +2 Trade Contacts. +1 Archer companion.

3 rolls of 1d100 gents.

Some say… he could ride before he could walk./b]

Rolled 85 (1d100)

>>3221714
Welcome back.Hope you're alright with all the heatwaves and stuff.

Rolled 43 (1d100)

>>3221714

Rolled 72 (1d100)

>>3221714

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>>3221740
LOL. Anyway nice to see our dice is performing as usual...

>>3221740

I'd trade you that heatwave for some -20F

hey look on the bright side at least emile will never catch cooties

i was working in melboune when it was 46 at 2:30 at night it was that hot and the wind was like a heater

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”Of course I know ‘History of the Saddle’. Er… ‘Dog is Man’s best friend, but it was the Horse who wrote’ history.”
If you’re being perfectly honest, you always treated your interest in raising horses as a passing hobby

”That’s Legate Montbrun the Third’s Essays, not Brother Benedict.” Tracker Jean says with an infuriating smirk. You curse your own lack of horse husbandry academia even as she continues. ”That’s a much more poetic discourse not really useful for the nitty gritty if you know what I mean.”

You blush at that, uncertain that you should even be discussing the… mechanics of horse husbandry with a member of opposite sex. Though your blush could also be attributed to the embarrassing lack of knowledge you have on your shared interest. You knew Tracker Jean could read of course, knowing enough about map-reading and navigation to keep the caravan on course. But that a Wastelander was this well read? You manage to hide your surprise at least, if not your obvious lack of expert knowledge.

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”Ah, don’t sweat it, every expert starts out as a amateur at some point in they lives, right? Now Ol’ Benny pointed out the difficulty in crossbreeds. I don’t mean the end result, which sometimes isn’t too bad I’ll admit, but it ain’t worth the effort or cost. You are certain that the next part of the conversation was phrased purely to cause you the maximum amount of embarrassment. Tracker Jean leans in a tad closer from her sadly, speaking conspiratorially. ”A Mustang stallion will take whatever’s on offer but if the target of his none-to-gentle affections are anything other than Mustang, well his missus will break more often than not. Either during the ride to pound-town or when birthing the offspring later. Now a Mustang filly on the other hand, well she won’t let any lesser breed bed her, no sir. She needs one of those big, strong Mustang boys to treat her right, hold her down, show her a good time…”

”For the love of Adam, you two.” Sir Rabe approaches, overhearing your hobby discussion at the most inopportune time. ”Have some bloody decency."

”What?” Tracker Jean responds with a wide grin. ”We were just talking about horses. Weren’t we, Sir Knight?”

You’re not sure which is more mortifying, that Sir Rabe got the wrong impression from Tracker Jean’s salacious comments or that the brutish Montbrun knight thinks you need a lesson in manners.

Tracker Jean eventually stops teasing you and tells you that she can put you in contact with some fellow horse-raising expert friends of her in….

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>Saint Gabriel, the Montbrun Torwatcher Gate to the north. Wastelander’s often make the trek from their lands to this gateway to Canton civilisations to trade. With some luck, you might secure a Mustang for the price of your average warhorse. [GAIN: Saint Gabriel merchant contacts]

>Freetown, the north-easternmost permanent Wastelander settlement. Such an expedition would be dangerous in the extreme, but you could purchase Wild Mustangs there for what you might buy a Nag for. [GAIN: Freetown merchant contacts]


If you have merchant contacts in your current location you may join or buy shares in a caravan, much like this one heading from Grenoble. Having merchant contacts in both your start out and destination locations will greatly increase the profitability.

That's me for today gents, we shall continue the once-a-day schedule as per usual following this.

>>3221922
>>Saint Gabriel, the Montbrun Torwatcher Gate to the north. Wastelander’s often make the trek from their lands to this gateway to Canton civilisations to trade. With some luck, you might secure a Mustang for the price of your average warhorse. [GAIN: Saint Gabriel merchant contacts]

>>3221922
> >Freetown, the north-easternmost permanent Wastelander settlement. Such an expedition would be dangerous in the extreme, but you could purchase Wild Mustangs there for what you might buy a Nag for. [GAIN: Freetown merchant contacts]

Pft. Danger, what of it. Besides, maybe we can even capture a wild Mustang of our own!

Shame about the Beastmen, escalating to Fae Fuckery for what, Cathargi scum?

Oh, how I anticipate this coming back to bite us.

>>3221922
>>Saint Gabriel, the Montbrun Torwatcher Gate to the north. Wastelander’s often make the trek from their lands to this gateway to Canton civilisations to trade. With some luck, you might secure a Mustang for the price of your average warhorse. [GAIN: Saint Gabriel merchant contacts]

>>3221922
>Saint Gabriel, the Montbrun Torwatcher Gate to the north. Wastelander’s often make the trek from their lands to this gateway to Canton civilisations to trade. With some luck, you might secure a Mustang for the price of your average warhorse. [GAIN: Saint Gabriel merchant contacts]

>>3221922
>>Saint Gabriel, the Montbrun Torwatcher Gate to the north. Wastelander’s often make the trek from their lands to this gateway to Canton civilisations to trade. With some luck, you might secure a Mustang for the price of your average warhorse. [GAIN: Saint Gabriel merchant contacts]
It's safer.

>>3221922
>Freetown, the north-easternmost permanent Wastelander settlement. Such an expedition would be dangerous in the extreme, but you could purchase Wild Mustangs there for what you might buy a Nag for. [GAIN: Freetown merchant contacts]

>>3221922
>Freetown, the north-easternmost permanent Wastelander settlement. Such an expedition would be dangerous in the extreme, but you could purchase Wild Mustangs there for what you might buy a Nag for. [GAIN: Freetown merchant contacts]

>>3221922
>Freetown, the north-easternmost permanent Wastelander settlement. Such an expedition would be dangerous in the extreme, but you could purchase Wild Mustangs there for what you might buy a Nag for. [GAIN: Freetown merchant contacts]

>>3221922
>Freetown, the north-easternmost permanent Wastelander settlement. Such an expedition would be dangerous in the extreme, but you could purchase Wild Mustangs there for what you might buy a Nag for. [GAIN: Freetown merchant contacts]

>>3221922
>Saint Gabriel, the Montbrun Torwatcher Gate to the north. Wastelander’s often make the trek from their lands to this gateway to Canton civilisations to trade. With some luck, you might secure a Mustang for the price of your average warhorse. [GAIN: Saint Gabriel merchant contacts]

>>3221922
>>Saint Gabriel, the Montbrun Torwatcher Gate to the north. Wastelander’s often make the trek from their lands to this gateway to Canton civilisations to trade. With some luck, you might secure a Mustang for the price of your average warhorse. [GAIN: Saint Gabriel merchant contacts]

>>3221922
>Saint Gabriel, the Montbrun Torwatcher Gate to the north. Wastelander’s often make the trek from their lands to this gateway to Canton civilisations to trade. With some luck, you might secure a Mustang for the price of your average warhorse. [GAIN: Saint Gabriel merchant contacts]

>>3221922
>Saint Gabriel, the Montbrun Torwatcher Gate to the north. Wastelander’s often make the trek from their lands to this gateway to Canton civilisations to trade. With some luck, you might secure a Mustang for the price of your average warhorse. [GAIN: Saint Gabriel merchant contacts]

Who cares about the Wasteland, we have funnier shit to do.

>>3221922
>Freetown, the north-easternmost permanent Wastelander settlement. Such an expedition would be dangerous in the extreme, but you could purchase Wild Mustangs there for what you might buy a Nag for. [GAIN: Freetown merchant contacts]

>>3221922
>Saint Gabriel, the Montbrun Torwatcher Gate to the north. Wastelander’s often make the trek from their lands to this gateway to Canton civilisations to trade. With some luck, you might secure a Mustang for the price of your average warhorse. [GAIN: Saint Gabriel merchant contacts]

>>3221922
>>Freetown, the north-easternmost permanent Wastelander settlement. Such an expedition would be dangerous in the extreme, but you could purchase Wild Mustangs there for what you might buy a Nag for. [GAIN: Freetown merchant contacts]

First post of thread, pls count

>>3221922
>Freetown, the north-easternmost permanent Wastelander settlement. Such an expedition would be dangerous in the extreme, but you could purchase Wild Mustangs there for what you might buy a Nag for. [GAIN: Freetown merchant contacts]

>>3221922
>Freetown, the north-easternmost permanent Wastelander settlement. Such an expedition would be dangerous in the extreme, but you could purchase Wild Mustangs there for what you might buy a Nag for. [GAIN: Freetown merchant contacts]

>>3221922
>Saint Gabriel, the Montbrun Torwatcher Gate to the north. Wastelander’s often make the trek from their lands to this gateway to Canton civilisations to trade. With some luck, you might secure a Mustang for the price of your average warhorse. [GAIN: Saint Gabriel merchant contacts]
Let's get knightly kniggas

>>3221922
Freetown, the north-easternmost permanent Wastelander settlement. Such an expedition would be dangerous in the extreme, but you could purchase Wild Mustangs there for what you might buy a Nag for. [GAIN: Freetown merchant contacts]

>>3221922

>Freetown, the north-easternmost permanent Wastelander settlement. Such an expedition would be dangerous in the extreme, but you could purchase Wild Mustangs there for what you might buy a Nag for. [GAIN: Freetown merchant contacts]

Nothing ventured nothing gained

>>3222617
> Knightly

> Fleeing from danger in favour of Shekels

Pick one.

>>3223107
>Fleeing from danger
Says who? Choosing to have contacts in an actual city instead of some backwater, third world shithole is now cowardly?

Besides your mental gymnastics on that account I wasn't actually referring to my vote but that we started a new thread after a week of downtime.

>>3223107
> contact in the middle of the fucking nowhere
> have to do some random Quest to get that horse
> all our companions die in the pursuit of the noble goal
> we finally get our beautiful Mustnag
> nat 100 in the very next battle
> he dies like a Brutus

I fully expect this to happen.

Actually let's address something to hopefully avoid some shit flinging this thread
Instead of this >>3223107
Give me reasons you want to vote a different way. Maybe it'll persuade me, maybe it won't. Anything has to be than /pol/ tier insults.

>>3221922
>Freetown, the north-easternmost permanent Wastelander settlement. Such an expedition would be dangerous in the extreme, but you could purchase Wild Mustangs there for what you might buy a Nag for. [GAIN: Freetown merchant contacts]

>>3221922
>>Saint Gabriel, the Montbrun Torwatcher Gate to the north. Wastelander’s often make the trek from their lands to this gateway to Canton civilisations to trade. With some luck, you might secure a Mustang for the price of your average warhorse. [GAIN: Saint Gabriel merchant contacts]

>>3223107
That's stupid

>>3221922
>Saint Gabriel, the Montbrun Torwatcher Gate to the north. Wastelander’s often make the trek from their lands to this gateway to Canton civilisations to trade. With some luck, you might secure a Mustang for the price of your average warhorse. [GAIN: Saint Gabriel merchant contacts]

>>3221922
>>Freetown, the north-easternmost permanent Wastelander settlement. Such an expedition would be dangerous in the extreme, but you could purchase Wild Mustangs there for what you might buy a Nag for. [GAIN: Freetown merchant contacts]

>>3221922


>Saint Gabriel, the Montbrun Torwatcher Gate to the north. Wastelander’s often make the trek from their lands to this gateway to Canton civilisations to trade. With some luck, you might secure a Mustang for the price of your average warhorse. [GAIN: Saint Gabriel merchant contacts]

Going with the Saint Gabriel contacts. We're more likely to venture to Montbrun over the wastes, so even if we wind up paying more for a Mustang, it can pay off with later caravans/business ventures or meeting more of House Rabe and their associates in the future. As well, Montbrun is geographically close to Romaine, and our family could use these contacts to better their standing in the future.

>>3223547
Also any trek into the wastes is essentially a side journey from literally everything else on the continent.

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>Saint Gabriel: 13
>Freetown: 12
>GAINED Saint Gabriel merchant contacts

”It’s safer, if’n you don’t mind kissing the local lord’s boot in return for a little protection against the Snakefiends.” According to Tracker Jean, the Lord of Gabriel’s Gate claims dominion over a vast portion of land beyond the actual Montbrun borders. Though what he actually taxes and patrols extends no further than a days ride from the Gate. ”He’ll tax you down to your boots, but it’s a safe place to trade so plenty of my folk will risk it for the biscuit.”

”You don’t seem to be a fan of his idea of security. Would you ever go back to Freetown, to this place you call home?” You ask, giving up on any attempt to keep track of this foreign woman’s bizarre phrases.

”I miss the family of course, and the freedom to make something of yourself with your own sweat and grit. But…” Tracker Jean answers hesitantly. ”…I don’t know. Things are getting pretty bad out there. ‘Scuse me, I gotta go… check on the drag or something.”

”Saint Gabriel’s Gate… that’s House Alderauge.” Karlaus Rabe mutters. You learn from him that House Alderauge is probably the second-most powerful House in the Montbrun duchy, lesser only to House Montbrun itself. One-on-one House Alderauge can probably muster more troops, but they have far less allies at Court.

”Would Lord Alderauge be in league with the Vancewells?” From what your friend says, House Alderauge is already setting itself up as a rival to the Duke.

”Not likely.” Sir Rabe snorts. ”Saint Gabriel’s Gate is home to the largest chapterhouse of Törwatcher knights in the entire duchy. They protect the mountain passes and Pegasi with a religious fervour.”

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"Anyway, Emile, this intrigue shit can wait awhile. Sir Gilbern says that House Rousseau lands are not too far from here." Sir Karlaus Rabe and yourself have become fast friends over the course of this week's travel. The northerner can be a crude brute sometimes, but the Montbrun have a reputation for that sort of thing. You do your best not to hold his lack of courtly upbringing against him.

Tracker Jean was obviously looking for an excuse not to talk about so she is relieved when you and Karlaus find her again only to tell her of the small errand rather than press her on the sore point of home. The Wastelander caravan master flicks her gaze over the trundling convoy. "We've had two armed patrols pass by in as many hours. Ah 'spose this is about as safe as we'll ever get."

You take that to mean tacit permission, if not approval, for you to go about your errand if you see fit. You are in the heartlands of Aubres now, the Capital is but another day's travel away. You briefly consider sending Sir Gilbern and Sir Rabe on with the recovered shield, but decide against it. It was you who retook the shield, and Sir Gilbern is no better known to this family than you are. Foisting off this unpleasant task of ill news on your fellows would be most inconsiderate.

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>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

>"We will first see the caravan to its destination, Miss Jean. Karlaus, I will return with the shield later once our charge is complete." Necessary or not, you will continue to watch over your charge. [Caravan]

>>3223870
>"We will first see the caravan to its destination, Miss Jean. Karlaus, I will return with the shield later once our charge is complete." Necessary or not, you will continue to watch over your charge. [Caravan]
IT'S TIME KNIGGAS!

>>3223870
>>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

>>3223870
>>"We will first see the caravan to its destination, Miss Jean. Karlaus, I will return with the shield later once our charge is complete." Necessary or not, you will continue to watch over your charge. [Caravan]

>>3223870
>>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

>>3223870
>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

No reward, yeah, but we usually only did the powergamey shit for sentimental reasons anyway, when it's be an odds abusing fuckhead or watch your family die..

Black company epilogue when?

>>3223870

>"We will first see the caravan to its destination, Miss Jean. Karlaus, I will return with the shield later once our charge is complete." Necessary or not, you will continue to watch over your charge. [Caravan]

>>3223870
>>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

>>3223870
>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

>>3223870
>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

>>3223870
>"We will first see the caravan to its destination, Miss Jean. Karlaus, I will return with the shield later once our charge is complete." Necessary or not, you will continue to watch over your charge. [Caravan]
We signed for a job. Would be wise to finish it before we go running around.

>>3223870
>>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

>>3223870

>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

>>3223206
Mostly we aren't great at Court stuff, and our Squire is a commoner even.

Going out and building a rep and support outside of the Court will enable us to better survive it.

Gotta play to our strengths, we can get murdered almost easier by fucking up politically.

Also further away from Beastman/Fae retribution

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>>3223870

>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

Rip off the Band-aid now. Plus, when we wrap up this caravan business, we wanted to either stand vigil or explore the capital, potentially moving onwards to the next historic site. Can't do that without back-tracking when they're all to the west and the Rousseaus are a full days ride to the east. Time is valuable, especially if we end up deciding to swear oaths and shit there.

Hey Forgotten, question for you. If we decided to swear to swear an oath at one of the sites of pilgrimage, how fucked are we on the butthurt-o-meter?

>pic related

>>3224834
Fuck, forgot to add if we fucked up an oath that we made at a site of pilgrimage.

>>3223870
>"We will first see the caravan to its destination, Miss Jean. Karlaus, I will return with the shield later once our charge is complete." Necessary or not, you will continue to watch over your charge. [Caravan]

Finish the job in front of us first.

>>3223870
>"We will first see the caravan to its destination, Miss Jean. Karlaus, I will return with the shield later once our charge is complete." Necessary or not, you will continue to watch over your charge. [Caravan]

>>3223870
>"We will first see the caravan to its destination, Miss Jean. Karlaus, I will return with the shield later once our charge is complete." Necessary or not, you will continue to watch over your charge. [Caravan]

Duty before honour

>>3223870
>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

>>3223870
>"We will first see the caravan to its destination, Miss Jean. Karlaus, I will return with the shield later once our charge is complete." Necessary or not, you will continue to watch over your charge. [Caravan]

>>3223870
>"We will first see the caravan to its destination, Miss Jean. Karlaus, I will return with the shield later once our charge is complete." Necessary or not, you will continue to watch over your charge. [Caravan]

>>3224834
>>3224837
Taking an oath is serious business.

I would put it on the Pooper Pained middle ground of your scale. It's an embarrassment and would require a service of penance, but certainly something you can recover from. If your failure was egregious, due to cowardice and widely known then it jumps a couple of rungs up the butthurt ladder.

>>3223870
>"We will first see the caravan to its destination, Miss Jean. Karlaus, I will return with the shield later once our charge is complete." Necessary or not, you will continue to watch over your charge. [Caravan]

>>3223870
>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

Just got here after archive bingeing and holy hell, the voting for this quest is kinda nuts.

>>3223870
>"We will first see the caravan to its destination, Miss Jean. Karlaus, I will return with the shield later once our charge is complete." Necessary or not, you will continue to watch over your charge. [Caravan]

>>3225040
So, on the same level of fucking it up as if we swore it in some po-dunk in the middle of nowhere? Makes sense. It's not the WHERE of making the oath that matters, but the WHAT and HOW. I'm more glad that there wouldn't be worse ramifications if we have swore it at a historical site, aside from the obvious more people around = more witnesses = more word spreading around about us being a fuck-up.

>>3225066
Exactly so. Swearing an oath at any sacred site or place of Almighty worship (be it a chapel altar or Aubrey cathedral) is equivalent to one another.

The opposite to failure also applies. Your reputation won't garner a huge boost to a solemn oath taken before a hermit priest in some minor chapel when compared to fulfilling an oath taken in front of a massive crowd in a public setting.

>>3225066

Where and on what would probably have a greater impact on those who witnessed it and those they tell.

Like swearing to get revenge for our 1st mc on his shield infront of his family might amplify the effect.

>>3225060
Yeah, BCQ was popular but I think the once-a-day schedule has given everyone in different timezones a chance to participate. I thought samefagging would be apoplectic in potential waifu votes but the overall trend in votes seems steady.

>>3225080
That's a valid point. Swearing to kill some random beastman in front of a mob in the Capital won't have nearly the same impact as a solemn oath made on the bloody shield in front of the Rousseau family.

In-character though, Sir Andrei would have little reason to believe that the killer was anyone but the Threehorned champion.

>>3223870
>"We will first see the caravan to its destination, Miss Jean. Karlaus, I will return with the shield later once our charge is complete." Necessary or not, you will continue to watch over your charge. [Caravan]

>>3223870
>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

As another anon said, it would be stupid not to go to the Rousseau family now. If we go to our destination first, we'll have to backtrack pretty hard and we'll lost a lot of valuable time.

>>3223870
>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

If Tracker Jean is so sure she can handle the rest of the trip, I don't see why we can't make a quick detour.

Poor Rousseau...

>>3223870

Oh and

>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

>>3223870
>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

>>3225517
>>3225514
Trying to hide samefagging?

Checking if your id changed?

>>3223870
How do you handle all the single/single digit coming after the first vote IDs for the second vote of the quest?

>>3225514
>>3225517
Neck yourself you fucking nigger

>>3225077
Forgotten, please don't tell me there's a chance of our caravan being ambushed while we're away. I would be absolutely be livid if Mikail dies while defending the caravan.

>>3225786
He wouldn't have given us the choice if there wasn't some sort of risk.

>>3225764
>>3225776
You two make me want to samefag just to spite you.

>>3225786
>>3225801
Don't give him any ideas pls

>>3225786
>>3225801
>>3225809
I mean to me if you're going to worry so much about that kind of thing then we must as well not take any risks at all. While you can definitely make a strong case that players should be punished for making really reckless decisions or just YOLO'ing stuff, we can't just let ourselves be paralyzed to not risk anything at all.
Anyway for this case we're already a day from the capital, as Tracker Jean has stated there's regular armed patrols around and about plus there's still Sir Gilbern and squires, the Carthagi and the original caravan guards to oversee things. So even if there's a risk involved, you can't really say that it's an unjustified one to take.

>>3225826
Calm your bloody tits. I'm just asking if there's a chance that's all.

>>3225834
I am calm LOL and of course there is a chance of something happening while we're gone. The thing is in this case is whether the risk is big enough that makes it so that we shouldn't go until the caravan reaches its destination?

>>3225843
>of course there is a chance of something happening while we're gone.

Thanks for the answer anon, but I wasn't asking you.

>>3225845
So if Forgotten flat out said no would that change your initial choice? Just curious.

>>3225809
Oh yeah kek, I apologize
>>3225826
Nah, better safe than sorry

>>3225858
I'll wait to see Forgotten's answer first.

>>3225883
There won't be a roll to see if the caravan is attacked.

>>3225939

Then don't count my vote here.>>3224890

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>>3223838
other du ver shields

>>3223870
>"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The caravan will be safe, there's little point in prolonging the worry of the Rousseau family. [Homecoming]

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>>3225951

>>3225944
wat why would you put your name on 4chins

>>3225954
is not my true name.

>>3225957
okay...

>>3225959
?

>>3225826
Yeah, see, for me the presence of the Carthagi and the Dire Wolf etc are fucking *weird*, and weird things bother me.

Who knows what kind of mess might be waiting for them because of that.

It's no longer "Just a Caravan", and we would be taking away our Nobility from the situation.

The fuck are Commoners going to do if someone messes with them for political reasons?

Meanwhile, ShieldFag is fucking dead and not getting any deader, and we can still go do that thing afterwards.

>>3225826
But no. Let's just leave them with a bunch of Slavers from a hostile/antagonistic nation making a sketchy deal with Royalty using a totem animal of a hostile indigenous population who might be seeking revenge or something.

Also we might miss out on any honours for saving said boy-fuckers.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but is the Prince on the other side of the Order Reginae? If so, there might be some backlash from our recent involvement with getting Vancewell shortened by a foot (technically a head).

Fucking over a Caravan we invested in with nobody around to object except commoners is a pretty tempting target, no?

>>3225939

Whoops I missed this.

So.

I notice that what you said isn't the same as "the Caravan will be fine if you leave".

Just that there won't be a roll, if it's attacked?

Pardon my paranoia.

>>3226791
What's the worst that could happen? I mean its not like a Fae lord is going to come out of the deepest parts of the forest, destroy the caravan and kidnap Tracker Jean.

>>3223870
>"We will first see the caravan to its destination, Miss Jean. Karlaus, I will return with the shield later once our charge is complete." Necessary or not, you will continue to watch over your charge. [Caravan]

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>Homecoming: 16
>Caravan: 12

"Then we had best see this done, Karlaus. Miss Jean, we shall return before nightfall. Our squires shall remain under your charge." The other knights present nod, Sir GIlbern’s squire will take seniority by right of his good breeding and age. You’re confident Mikail won’t start anything. ”There’s little point in leaving these good people worrying, let’s be off.”

The sight of the ripe, golden fields of wheat, ready to harvest later in the spring, is exactly what you imagined Aubres would be like. Unfortunately, the scenery fails to entirely lighten the mood of your party. You had expected conversation between yourself, Sir Rabe and Sir Gilbern to be somewhat muted given the unpleasant duty ahead. For some minutes since you three split from the caravan the conversation remains focused only on the most trivial of topics.

”Do you think this Rousseau knight might still be alive?” Sir Rabe speaks suddenly, abruptly finishing distracted questions to Sir Gilbern on the latest fashions of the Royal Court. Plumes are in this season, apparently.
”I’ve heard that some of the more secluded Fallavon Lords openly deal with such creatures. I do not doubt that the value of hostages and ransoms does not entirely escape these creatures.” Sir Gilbern shrugs, then shakes his head. ”But no, I think it very unlikely in this case. That chainmail was rusted from dried blood. Only the Almighty knows what happened to Sir Rousseau, or where his body lies.”

”He is avenged at least, what small comfort that may be to his family.” You add, recalling the Threehorned champion that bore the looted chainmail and shield. You wonder if Mikail remembered to keep the head, there's probably someone in the Capital that can preserve it for a small price.

”That we did, Godsgrace. The debt is paid.” Sir Rabe nods sharply. His words remind you of another debt…

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Just before the battle on the Kingsroad, the Queen’s Herald Sir Gilbern lent you one of his lances for the charge. Although you put it to good you, it shattered during the battle.

> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

> Wait until you see how your caravan shares fared before you pay Sir Gilbern back. You’ll not beggar yourself over a Lance. [Haughty]

> The Lance was freely given on the eve of battle, what’s one Lance among friends? You’ll pay him back sometime. [Hearty]

>>3227518
>You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
>> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
>You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]
We can afford it easily even easily even if it means a few rough nights on the road.

>>3227518
>You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]
It's the honorable thing to do. Besides, the success of the battle is likely to gain us quite a bit. We already have a battle bro in Sir Rabe. And Sir Gilbert certainly seems to respect us. We'll have plenty of opportunities to gain the money back

>>3227518
>> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
>You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]
He was the one that gave it to us out of goodwill, we should honor that goodwill.

>>3227518

> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
>You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
>You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
>You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
>You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
>You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
>> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
>> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
>> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

Reputation is worth more than Gold.

I'm sure the Caravan is fine and I worried for no reason.

>>3227518
>Wait until you see how your caravan shares fared before you pay Sir Gilbern back. You’ll not beggar yourself over a Lance. [Haughty]

>>3227518
>> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518

> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

Obvious answer is obvious.
>Oui mon ami, we should TOTALLY rip off the knigget who has a good position in the Order Regina and unknown amounts of political clout just before we go into the Capital. This will have no repercussions whatsoever, hon hon hon.

>>3227518
> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
>> The Lance was freely given on the eve of battle, what’s one Lance among friends? You’ll pay him back sometime. [Hearty]

>>3227518
>> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

>>3227518
>> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist]

What is a Knight without his honour?

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[1/3]
> You will honour your debt to Sir Gilbern regardless of how successful the caravan turns out to be. [Idealist] Muh honour. Yeah, I know shekel-anon gave it away.

>-1 Wealth
>Hidden COMRADE perquisite fulfilled. Sir Gilbern values men who honour their debts.
>Sir Gilbern is now a COMRADE (100% Death’s Door chance)
>Sir Gilbern LOYAL prerequisite revealed: Sir Gilbern will become LOYAL if you help him complete a clandestine mission.
Queensman: ”Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? We do.”

”Sir Gilbern, I am a man of my word.” You toss the knight a leather pouch with a modest amount of silver inside. It is, in fact, all the free hard coin you currently have on you. If you want to buy further supplies before your shares are returned you’ll have to begin bartering odd luxuries in your possession.

”What is this?” Sir Gilbern hefts the coinpurse. ”For the lance? Ridiculous! Here, consider the weapon a gift. You put it to damn fine use.”

”No Sir, I said I would replace the weapon should it break.” You refuse the proffered coinpurse. ”This amount should cover it.”

”Sir Andrei, I will personally take offence if you do not accept the return of your coin.” Sir Gilbern’s tone brooks no argument and you reluctantly acquiesce to avoid insult. Despite his protestation, you’re convinced the knight is pleased that the offer was made and even insisted upon.
>+1 Wealth

”You bloody southerners. The man pays a debt and you challenge him for it?” Sir Rabe has little time for the posturing of generosity between the knights of Pascae and Romaine. ”Come, this looks to be the place.”

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>>3233131

Homecoming theme - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFUlliTQEfk

Castle Rousseau is relatively small, though it remains distinct given the flat, golden landscape that surrounds it. Father would have loved to see the stone architecture, apparently designed as much for defence as it was to please the eye. The picturesque purple flowers on the westward walls are in full bloom, Jaccabanda you think they’re called. You’re sure your sisters would know. The view itself instils you with a sedate calmness, it’s a lovely home.

The Rousseau Castle gates are wide open as you approach, though you are watched by a squad of Rousseau men-at-arms as you enter. Like many Aubres that make up the bulk of the Royal Army, the men are all uniformly well-equipped and drilled. You are directed to a grey-haired man at practice in the drillyard. His shield much resembles the one you’ve come to return, though in better shape and with a beastman skull instead of a human skull on the heraldry. He pauses in his bout against three men half his age, you let him catch his breath before speaking.

”Brother’s Blessings, Sir. I am Sir Emile Andrei and my companions are Sir Robert Gilbern and Sir Karlaus Rabe. We wish to speak to the Lord of this castle.”

”Brother’s Blessings to you in turn, Sir Andrei. I am Sir Marcel Rousseau. My brother is currently at prayer in the chapel for the safety of his son, Godsgrace. What business have you with…” The grey-haired man’s eyes are drawn to the shield that Sir Gilbern uncovers, handing it over to him. His eyes widen, and several of the attending men-at-arms mutter. ”Where did you get this?”

”We’ve come from a skirmish with the Foe a day or two east of here.” You and your fellows explain how this and the rusted chainmail were found among the beastmen dead. You learn that a Sir Gabriel Rousseau had been missing since winterbreak, they had expected a letter from him weeks ago but had hoped for the best. You have put paid to those hopes.

[2/3]

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>>3233132

[3/3]

”What’s the commotion, Marcel? Has my son returned? He could have sent a letter, his mother was worrying herself near to…” Lord and Lady Rousseau emerge from the chapel, dressed in humble church attire. He does not need any explanation when he sees the shield, the grave expressions of all present tells him enough. A shaky hand is laid upon the battered shield, eyes clouded with grief and pain latch upon his brother. ”You! You did this! Filling his head with your stupid notions of Errantry, sending him out there alone to… to…”

”Brother, I….” Sir Rousseau looks helpless, all the strength of arms in the world can’t help against a father’s grief.

”Get out! OUT! I never want to see your cursed face again!” Lord Jean Rousseau slumps, looking a decade older than when he came out of the chapel. Only the steady arm of one of the Rousseau men-at-arms keeps him from collapse. ”My boy… my boy…”

Lady Rousseau can only weep quietly, Gabriel’s two surviving brothers emerge from the castle and guards and servants alike watch in grim silence as they help their father and mother into the castle.

Sir Rousseau stands in shattered silence as the courtyard clears, sad murmurs from the castle commoners for their Lord’s loss. When Sir Gilbern speaks the veteran knight seems confused, as if he had forgotten you were there.

”His Lordship is grieving, give him time.”

”No. No, he meant it. It was I who filled my nephew’s head with the idea of adventure.” The old knight sags, and not from the weight of his armour. ”And it was young Gabriel who paid the price. Even if my brother forgave me, there’s no place for me here.”

”We are on our way to Aubrey, Sir Rousseau. Perhaps, you would accompany us?” Sir Gilbern looks to you and Sir Rabe for confirmation. ”We would welcome the extra blade.”

”I… yes. The Knights Comitas at the Church of Adam’s Martyrdom will see me.” Sir Rousseau nods slowly, reprocessing his entire world. ”Maybe they will offer me a chance again… to atone…”

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> “It is not your fault, Sir. There is nothing you could have done. Although you dispatched it easily, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. [Haughty]

> ”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]

> “You have served with the Knights Comitas before?” The Adam-aligned hermit knights are well known in Romaine. [Hearty]

As always, write-ins are welcome.

>>3233136
>”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]

>>3233131
Really enjoyed this exchange even though I knew the whole "no you take the money!" thing was coming.

>>3233132
>>3233136
Muh feels Forgotten!

> ”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]

>>3233136
> ”Few of us are past redemption, Sir.”[Idealist]

as some contention previously has made clear Emile tends to think certain men like Vancewell are not deserving of redemption or mercy.

>>3233136
>> ”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]

>>3233136
>”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]

>>3233136
>”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]

>>3233136
> ”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]
Based and sadpilled

>>3233155
Seconding this.

Even if redemption will never or can never be granted, striving for it is good for the soul.

>>3233136
>”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]

>>3233136
> “Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent.

> Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way."

I dunno how to write it, really, but all men die and some get to die with nobly with honour, living their best life. Sometimes that means dying sooner, but we can do our damndest to make sure they're remembered longer.

>>3233271
I like your write in anon

>>3233136
>”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]

>>3233136
>”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]

>>3233275
Thanks! If one person does, that's enough for me.

I felt like the idealism was just kind of . . . Not quite in tune with how we've acted so far.

Instead of personal redemption, it's atonement. His nephew followed him because he thought his Uncle was a Big Damn Hero? Well, now you gotta be that Big Damn Hero to make honour his decision.

>>3233136
>”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]

>>3233271
I like it as well anon.

> “Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent.

> Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way."

>>3233328
Thanks! I don't have much hope for a write-in beating out set choices, but it would be nice to have it work into the dialogue somehow.

>>3233293
like I said before Redemption ofr all is not quite Emile's thing considering Vancewell and its more apt to say few rather than all.

>>3233136
Considering its basically impossible to say that my vote >>3233155 will not make it to final post I'll support >>3233271 instead

though I just realised its funny because Emile basically steamrolled Threehorn

>>3233339
Yeah, but I mean it's crass to brag a out the ease of which we won.

Better to talk up the enemy to comfort Marcel, and let the deed shine on us by implication.

>>3233271
Full support.

>>3233328
Full support

>>3233271
support

>>3233136
>>3233271
Not a bad write-in. You have my vote.

>>3233271
+1

>>3233271

This

>>3233136
>”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]

>>3233136
>>3233155
I'll support this

>>3233271
Supporting
It's not his fault

>>3233136
>”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]

>>3233136
>>3233271
this

>>3233155
Supporting this.

>>3233271
>>3233136
Hum, no, in fact I support this.

>>3233136
>> ”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]

Though I also like this write in >>3233271

>>3233136
>”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]

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Recasting the vote with the write-in options.

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>”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.” You hope the words of Sister Aditha give this man some comfort. [Idealist]

> ”Few of us are past redemption, Sir.”[Idealist]

> “Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234001
>> “Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty

>>3234001
>”Few of us are past redemption, Sir.”[Idealist]

>>3234001
>> “Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]
Going with this.

>>3234001
> “Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234001
>“Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]
I miss him already.

>>3234001
>> “Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234001
>> “Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234001
I would combine both our words and that of the SIster's honestly:
>”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234115
Sounds good to me

>>3234001
>”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234137
>>3234001
So apparently I can't delete my old vote, can you consider my later vote as the changed one?

>>3234115
This. Rewrite #2
>”None of us are past redemption, Sir. None.Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234001
>> “Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234001
> ”Few of us are past redemption, Sir.”[Idealist]

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I do love it when write ins and modified options get discussed. Vote remains open, I wanted to ask if there are any anons that dabble in a bit of drawfagging.

I've seen the talent of map-bro and shield-bro, and we're getting to the stage where I might be willing to fork over some dosh for a commissioned piece. The actual subject would be up to a vote of course, and we can say it's a likeness of something Father/Mother commissioned after receiving one of Sir Andrei's letters.

>>3234001

>“Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234001
> “Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234001

> “Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

Should try and squeak this vote in before they close out.

>>3234001
> “Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234115
Supporting.

>>3234001
>> “Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234115
This is the perfect combination so i support it.

>>3234115
+1 add my vote to this.

>>3234115
Backing this

Oh god, not a third vote on a second write in

>>3234115
supporting

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I see the two options as distinctly seperate, the combo that includes Sister Aditha's words implies that Sir Marcel Rousseau has something to atone for and another takes the stance that every knight who does Errantry knows the risks and does so anyway.

Im calling a third vote before I get home in about 4-5 hours. 1 ID posters will not be counted.

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>"Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]
Andre believes that Gabriel knew the risks and the uncle should not be blamed.

>"No one is beyond redemption, Sir. No one. Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]
Perhaps Gabriel was sent out underpreard or unaware of the reality of danger. Sir Andrei believes that the question of what the uncle must atone for is a matter solely for the uncle and his priest to consider.

>>3234913
Heh.

>>3234925
>>"Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234925
>"No one is beyond redemption, Sir. No one. Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

Hmm did I vote in this thread so far?

>>3234925
>"No one is beyond redemption, Sir. No one. Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234925
>"No one is beyond redemption, Sir. No one. Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234925
>"No one is beyond redemption, Sir. No one. Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234925
>>"No one is beyond redemption, Sir. No one. Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234925
>"No one is beyond redemption, Sir. No one. Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234925
>"No one is beyond redemption, Sir. No one. Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234925
>>"Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234925

>"No one is beyond redemption, Sir. No one. Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

FEW, FEW! ARE BEYOND REDEMPTION ROUSSEAU AND YOU ARE CLEARLY NOT ONE OF THEM

>>3235016
Oh look my Ip changed, if it's not clear I'm >>3233339 and I'm flipflopping because apparently I cant naked up my mind properly

>>3234925
>"No one is beyond redemption, Sir. No one. Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]
This is kinda a rough vote. Ultimately, though, Sir Rosseau led his nephew astray of his brother's wishes. Gabriel was alone (no Mikail or bro kniggas) and his (our) head was so full errantry nonsense that he got himself killed. Even if we didn't think he has something to atone for, Sir Rosseau does. So the extra words of encouragement I think are necessary.

[Spoiler]elder bro knigga for adventures? [/Spoiler]

>>3235017
Keep your pants on

>>3235028
Stupid phone posting

>>3235040
I'm only stating what needs to be said for my vote to count, under normal circumstances I wouldn't bother as I find constantly refering to old Ip's asinine and a flawed way of countering samefag voting.

>>3234925
>"No one is beyond redemption, Sir. No one. Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3234925
>"Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

It's me >>3233271

>>3235017
Personally I think they're both equally good, my issue is with the "no-one" vs. "Few". Which isn't my personal view, but what I feel Andre has established is that there's a definite line after which salvation is between them and god, but justice is meted out on the edge of the blade.

Inspiring the next generation to match or even surpass the old isn't a crime.

Although TBF maybe he could have gone along with his nephew to make sure he was safe.

Meh. Gabriel sucked as a character IMO so I'm not too broken up about it personally.

>>3235074
The only reason Gabriel sucked was because there really wasn't much that we did with him before he got fucked over by shitty rolls.
Hell I still remember when Anons were making comparisons with Emile being Gabriel with the serial numbers filed off when Emile was being created.

>>3235092
[Hearty] has made all the difference IMO.

>>3234925
>>"No one is beyond redemption, Sir. No one. Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

Speaking of which, this scene should give Emile plenty to think about. Imagine if something happens to him; would Mother blow up at Father just like Lord Rosseau did? How would the rest of the family react, especially since our elder brother is off hiding who knows where?

>>3234925
>"Sir, your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. The shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us, and we shall honour his choices in life by upholding the ideals that made him choose it, the same that made us seek to live the same way." [Idealist] + [Haughty]

>>3223543
Old ID.

I bear witness that there is no God but God and Muhammad is his messenger

>>3235201
You've discovered Leto II's secret vault on Arrakis!

Vote is closed.

To address >>3235074 I believe the exchange showed that Sir Andrei did not really understand the theology of the teaching but accepted that salvation between man and God is open to anyone. From my perspective, even if I didn't carry this across properly, Uncle Rousseau is seeking a spiritual redemption rather than a legal one.

From thread #4.
>"No, I- ... quite the contrary, Sister. I find the teaching that no one is beyond God's forgiveness to be a reassuring one. If the Almighty can forgive even the likes of Vancewell..." The in-depth theology of the the Almighty’s Word sometimes escapes you, but you have always taken solace in its fundamentals. Love, Dedication, Forgiveness and the other tenets. Adam and Cain where two halves of a whole, but neither could match Salvae Reginae in her boundless love.

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>Write-in [Idealist] + [Haughty]
+1 Step on the Path of AdamI wasn’t actually going to award a Step here, but that write-in was tight.

The Lord Rousseau is clearly beset by grief and you are left wondering if the sudden exile of his brother was unjustly rash or harsh.

The people of Romaine are no strangers the very real toll of duty on the sons of the realm. Every year there are those that leave home to serve their time with the Holy Orders, never to return. You were under no such illusion. You knew full well that when you stepped into the den of the Creeping Horror of Grenmire, there was a chance you would never be walking out again.

But that is Romaine, and the people of Romaine have grown all too accustomed to their own mortality. Perhaps the knights of other realms think themselves invincible, or that the fate of a thousand Knight Errants before them would not befall them. Perhaps this Sir Rousseau should have taught his squire better, or not sent him off alone. Perhaps not. Whatever atonement is required of this man, or thought to be required, is between him and God.

[1/2]

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>>3235255

[2/2]

”No one is beyond redemption, Sir. No one.” Your tone with the freshly exiled Sir Rousseau is not condemning, but it is not quite soothing either. You speak your piece with authority, commanding him to understand there is always a path to redemption and goading him to adhere by the ideals that he has clearly lived by and instilled in his late nephew.

"Your nephew chose to live with honour as a Knight, and I am certain that he fell with honour. This shield was battered so already when I found the vile scum with it, and the Threehorned beast was no meagre opponent. Come with us and we shall honour Young Rousseau's choices in life by upholding the very same ideals that he defended to his death."

The grey-haired knight stares at you with a fragile intensity, you cannot for the life of you tell whether he bristles or clutches at your words.

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>DC 60 Equal social standing / Reasonable request
>Homecoming +20DC
>Jolly good write-in +10DC
>No Delay +1 Re-roll
>DC 90


0 = Sir Rousseau is lost in his shame and grief. As you prepare to leave, Sir Rousseau hangs himself in the stables.
1 = Your words give Sir Rousseau scant comfort. He goes to join the Knights Comitas and never sets foot in Castle Rousseau again.
2 = Your words offer some small measure of succour for Sir Rousseau. Perhaps one day, the two brothers will be reconciled. He joins the Knights Comitas and will consider you a friend should your paths cross again.
3 = Sir Rousseau joins you for the trip to Aubrey an requests an assignment from the Knights Comitas to assist you in your pilgrimages. [+1 Companion]


3 rolls of 1d100, you righteous kniggas.

“If man had his way, the plan of redemption would be an endless and bloody conflict. In reality, salvation was bought not by Reginae's fist, but by Her nail-pierced hands; not by muscle but by love; not by the sword but by the word; not by vengeance but by forgiveness; not by force but by sacrifice. Salve Reginae our Lady surrendered in order that She might win; She destroyed Her enemies by suffering for them and conquered hate by allowing hate to conquer Her.” -Antigonas the First Bishop of Aubrey, as the final stone is set in the Church of Adam’s Martyrdom in 67 A.C.E

Rolled 79 (1d100)

>>3235256

Rolled 16 (1d100)

>>3235255
>>3235104
This is me.

Rolled 72 (1d100)

>>3235256

Rolled 87 (1d100)

>>3235256
Lets ride!

>>3235256
Holy crap though if we somehow managed to somehow fail thrice that would have turned dark very fast.

>>3235256
>0 = Sir Rousseau is lost in his shame and grief. As you prepare to leave, Sir Rousseau hangs himself in the stables.

Damn Forgotten, don't you think this is a bit too much for 0 success? I think this should be reserved for a critfail.

>>3235258
>>3235260
>>3235262

Great job! We have Uncle Marcel Rousseau as a companion now. Let's hope we can make him a permanent one.

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>>3235258
>>3235260
>>3235262
Noice noice.

>>3235263
Late, but good show (thanks write-in).

>>3235266
You don't even want to know, mate. Lest the paranoia get to you.
I'm a little dog tired to punch out another update tonight, I'll see you all around this time tomorrow for another vote. >pic related

>>3235266
To be fair, it was almos impossible for us to lose. And he had been rejected by his brother and felt responsible for the Death of his nephew. A critfail would have dire consequences on the family, isntead of just the uncle

>>3235276
>A critfail would have dire consequences on the family, isntead of just the uncle

I really wonder what a critfail would've done had we gotten it. The 0 success result was already too awful.

>>3235266
Your nephew died because of you. Suicide is an valid option

>>3235277
In addition to the Uncle necking himself, Lord Rousseau would go mad with grief (despite the two spare sons) and eventually (after his wife also kills herself) develop a serious case of blaming the messenger (you).

>>3235283
>In addition to the Uncle necking himself, Lord Rousseau would go mad with grief (despite the two spare sons) and eventually (after his wife also kills herself) develop a serious case of blaming the messenger (you).

By the Almighty, what would've a critical success done then?

>>3235285
Why LOOT, of course. Probably some gift to Gabriel Uncle had been meaning to give him when he next visited.

>>3235283
Well thank the Almighty we had a re-roll then.

>>3235288
>Why LOOT, of course. Probably some gift to Gabriel Uncle had been meaning to give him when he next visited.

Oh, I see then. Is Uncle Rousseau going to be taking that gift with him to use it in battle now that he's accompanying us?

We have a pretty great crew of kniggas with us now. We have Sir Karlaus, Sir Marcel and Sir Robert (although he's gonna leave us once we reach Aubrey).

>>3235288
>>3235298
I'm not sure it's been mentioned before but there's no hard cap on the number of companions right?

>3235256
>She destroyed Her enemies by suffering for them and conquered hate by allowing hate to conquer Her.
Is that last part right? Because it gives the contrary impression to everything before it.

>>3235266
You're overreacting. Scoring a complete failure should be terrible

>>3235318
I believe we're going to have full out battles with thousands of men, so . . .

Also we should be prepared for "winning battles but losing wars" depending on who or what we fight for.

>>3235381
I am parcial to small scale engaments, but not wholely against participating in large battles.

>>3235607
>>3235607
I'm not sure there's going to be a lot of choice in the matter. The other side has a say, for one, and we're rather limited in our ability to evade participation let alone outright refusal.

Kind of part and parcel with the whole "Knight" and "Valour" and "Nobility" part of the gig.

>>3235318
>get large number of companions
BCQ flashbacks

>>3236407
The Captain should have been "removed" after losing half the company while Prince takes an entire city and wrecks the skalds.

>>3236561
Wasn't it our fault for getting that lord vampire killed since was the only one of our bosses who gave a single thought to strategic thinking?

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>>3236692
Hahaha.

Just remember, the dice ruin Forgottens plans as much as any of the players.

>>3236763
Do you remember the /tg/ quest where it was a civ quest, and the players were an AI that existed in a post-rapture Earth and they had to fight God.

Like, three O's Yahweh? They were only able to do so because AI don't have a soul to be damned/smote and that God was bound to obey his own laws that he lay down (God can't make a rock so heavy he can't lift it).

Aside from that, all powerful.

And they managed to do it. The players fought, and lost, and won, and lost some more until they could figure out how to fail forward.

And finally, FINALLY, big climatic battle to kill God. Marching forth with Satan and Big Damn Guns. Losing people left and right, fallen angels falling with angels.

And on the final attack, the chance to finish God . . . . natural 1. Critfail. Fuck you God wins.

Them's the rules. I have never raged so hard while also just being kind of bemused at how appropriate that kind of bullshit was.

>>3236770
That is hilarious

>>3236773
> http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyond

Found the archives!

> Except, of course, you're the other guys. You are Omega, coordinating AI for the Legion of Light. Today is the last day of the Millennial Kingdom, and Satan is flying above the Last Army to challenge Jesus inside His temple.

> You have devised a number of Plan Bs, from an interstellar colony ship to warriors so dedicated to Humanity that they have trained to fight while enduring the pain of Hell, but the final battle is no longer in a nebulous future. It will be fought here. Tonight.

> Have you managed to shatter the prophecies, or are you simply fulfilling them?

Also, sorry, that was a NAT 1 ON A 1D1000.

Post #1187959

>>3236814
What the fuck.

>>3236814
Aaaahahahaha

Rip those dudes but a nat 1 on a 1d1000? Yea, you’re dying.

>>3236862
It's some amazing dialogue for that part too, to be honest.

Like.

Jesus ain't nothing to fuck with.

>>3236862
I mean, the quest survived past death because players planned extensively for failure.

After all, they WERE fighting God. Failure was always a very real possibility.

Anyways, it would probably be best for people to strive for that mindset in any quest where crits override and it's a high lethality setting.

We should be trying to get companions, get gold, and git gud while expecting our companions to die, our money to get stolen, and to have to fight against someone better than us.

>>3236917
That's the thinking that created the Black Prince, we needed every combat modifier to beat back the good guys and the Black Guard tree offered it to us.