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”A Knight is Sworn to Valour. His Heart Knows Only Virtue. His Blade Defends the Helpless. His Might Upholds the Weak. His Word Speaks Only Truth. His Wrath Undoes the Wicked.”

Every child in Cantôn knows of the Knight’s Code. From peasant-born waifs playing with sticks in the mud to keen-eyed noble sons practicing with cold steel in the training yard, all have at the very least dreamed of one day becoming a knight themselves. To ride out on errantry into the Five Duchies Kingdom and beyond for God and Glory, bringing the Law of Adam to the wicked and the Blade of Cain to the beast.

The Knights of Cantôn are sworn to follow the Code, to obey the King, to refuse no call for aid honestly asked for, to seek out and destroy the Foe wherever it may lurk and rid the world of evil.

Were it so easy…

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>>3049678
>Valour
Valor
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>>3049678

Many years from now, not far from home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY-BvPriIBo
Good suggestion from that one anon. Poetry is not a strong suit of mine, I imagine the bard did a far better job of it.


Into the Pit of Hell they ventured,
'Into the lair of the beast!' they cried.
Strong was Sir Andrei who led them,
By his blade the monster would die.


The bard leaps upon the table as he strums his lute dramatically, recounting in his song the confining twists and turns of the caves, the foul visage of the creature as the knights came across it, and the brave feat of arms they displayed in vanquishing the beast. Such is his attention to detail and ability to paint a picture of the events to the onlookers that many assume he must have been there and witnessed it all firsthand.

"There's more, right?" The freckled face girl asks, happier with this story than the last one.

"Of course! The Bear of Andrei's story had only just begun in that remote village of Grenmire."

"What about the girl? Y'know...Tam, what stood with the knights when they slew the beastie what did for 'er folks."

The bard's face falls, as if reminded of an old wound. "...Ah, now that is a different song entirely..."

[1/?]
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>>3049678
I HAVE NO MOUTH AND I MUST SCREAM
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>>3049680
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>>3049690
A Farmstead in Grenmire, the evening before Sir Andrei's arrival

Tam sits at the bench, watching you and your carving at the dinner table. It's just a hobby really, something to pass the time as you sat in Lord Berriere's camp on watch during the War of Borders. Hardly anything exciting happened during your service, well aside from that one time, which left you plenty enough hours to practice chiselling away at bits of wood until they resembled something. You don't have much time for it these days, busy with heavier tasks around the farm from dawn to dusk. But your children seem to love your little figures, none more than that rascal Tam, so you do as best you can to put aside some time in the evening to work on a little project or new toy.

It's not so bad out here, on the edge of the forests. Folk were mighty afeared about the whole thing, none more than your wife, but the land is wonderfully fertile and good for crops. Plus it helps that his Lordship Berriere, long health to him, often forgets this remote place even exists or how much he's owed in taxes when he does come to collect. You know that, so long as you don't cut down no healthy trees and leave their game well enough alone, there'll be no trouble. Truly you're more worried about brigands than you're wifes fretful imagination. You're not so far from the village enough to be isolated, and the new Sir Knight down the road seems a decent enough sort. He'll soon sort out this missing livestock business, whether it be wolves or bandits.

You can hear Rubes barking, he does that a lot when the sun goes down. Jill and Penny should have been home by now from the creek for supper, but at least they have the dog with them. Tam interrupts your thoughts with one of her incessant questions. You don't mind, so long as she isn't disturbing your wife at the pot again.

"Whassit?" Over by the pot her Ma tsks tsks, Tam's bluntness sometimes irks your wife. She worries Tam will never marry and become a spinster like her great-aunt.

[2/3]
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>Tam backstory as her entire family is killed

I didn't ask for this.
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[3/3]

"Soldier." You answer with a grunt, then rethink. It's got enough left under the chest to give him a horse...maybe... "Not just a soldier, mind, but a Knight."

"...wassa difference?"

"It's got a horse, for one thing. And see here? That's armour."

"Like for not getting stabbed and all that?" Tam distractedly tickles the babe as she pesters you with questions. Jeremy coos and giggles, grabbing at her fingers.

"Exactly."

"How come soldiers don't get armour then? They'd prob rather not get stabbed too."

"Well, soldiers can't afford good armour. If they could..." Your brow furrows in thought, trying not to chip the lance-like shape you've been carving.

"They'd be knights?" Tam grins, cheekily.

"HAHAHA! Too true!" You bellow laughter, your belly shaking. Almighty bless, she's a quick girl. Likely too smart to put up with any of the local boys here when she comes of age...

"...was you a soldier, Da?"

"..."

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>"Aye. 'Twas for a bit. Long time ago, much wiser for it now." God, gold and glory. What a fools errand, you've made a much happier life here with a family. [Father] Tam grows up specialise in the sword.

>"Aye. An archer, though you wouldn't guess it from my belly these days." You weren't a bad shot either, though you suppose accuracy didn't matter in volleys. Just speed and draw strength. [Ex-soldier] Tam grows up to specialise in the bow.

>"Nay, not really. Just held a spear for a bit when they called up the militia." You've seen knights first hand, up close. Real close. Your lot never stood a chance. [Farmer] Tam grows up to specialise in the spear.
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>>3049715
>>"Aye. An archer, though you wouldn't guess it from my belly these days." You weren't a bad shot either, though you suppose accuracy didn't matter in volleys. Just speed and draw strength. [Ex-soldier]
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>>3049715
>"Aye. An archer, though you wouldn't guess it from my belly these days." You weren't a bad shot either, though you suppose accuracy didn't matter in volleys. Just speed and draw strength. [Ex-soldier] Tam grows up to specialise in the bow.
Women don't belong on the front
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>>3049715
>>"Nay, not really. Just held a spear for a bit when they called up the militia." You've seen knights first hand, up close. Real close. Your lot never stood a chance. [Farmer]
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>>3049690
>>"Of course! The Bear of Andrei's story had only just begun in that remote village of Grenmire."
Would be pretty awkward if we died in the very next quest
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>>3049738
>The bard just gets thrown out
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>>3049715
>"Nay, not really. Just held a spear for a bit when they called up the militia." You've seen knights first hand, up close. Real close. Your lot never stood a chance. [Farmer] Tam grows up to specialise in the spear.
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>>3049715
>>"Aye. An archer, though you wouldn't guess it from my belly these days." You weren't a bad shot either, though you suppose accuracy didn't matter in volleys. Just speed and draw strength. [Ex-soldier] Tam grows up to specialise in the bow.
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>>3049715
>"Aye. An archer, though you wouldn't guess it from my belly these days." You weren't a bad shot either, though you suppose accuracy didn't matter in volleys. Just speed and draw strength. [Ex-soldier] Tam grows up to specialise in the bow.
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"Aye. An archer, though you wouldn't guess it from my belly these days."

”You? An Archer?” Tam snorts, dodging a thrown spoon from her brothers.

”Shut it, Tam. Go on, Da.” Your burly sons Jack and Jim have gone quiet, watching you intently. You never talk about before you married, your soldiering days. Didn't want to give the boys any ideas.

"Aye, I was. Far from it now, glad to say." You continue, proud of your fat belly rather than indignant. "Ye have to be fast to be an Archer, an' a good eye to. Not just quick legs mind, but strong arms with quick hands and quicker fingers..."

"Don’t you doubt him boys, your father were a strappin’ young lad back when we was… Almighty’s sake, I thought I tol' 'em girls not to be wanderin' about after dark." Your wife Lily huffs, wooden spoon pointed in the general direction of the offenders. "They'll end up just like bloody 'Tam don't you doubt it. Don't think I don't see those eyes o' yours rollin' Tam!"

"Aye luv, aye. I'll just..." You start to get up, putting away your toy woodworking.

"Don't worry Da, I'll go fetch him." Your son Jack stands up, his oxen build much like his father. He pats your second-born on the shoulder to follow him. "Come on, Jim."

Something scratches at the back of your head, an uneasiness you can't explain. You don't recall Rubes barking so loud on sundown's gone past.... Your eye flicks down to the mallet sitting beside the table, but you shake your head. You're being paranoid, best to just bring the boys a torch to light their way is all.

"Jack wait..." But he's already long out the door, you're getting older and slower these days. And fatter, but you take that as a good sign. You step out the door into the darkness, you can't even see your boys on the trail ahead let alone catch up with them. You mutter as you make your way down the trail. "At least that damn dog has stopped barking."

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[2/2]

You hear the wet squelching sounds before the pale limp piece of meat drops to dirt trail in front of you. You don't recognize it immediately, a piece of mutton? Seconds pass before you realise you're staring at a human arm. Your son's arm. The clack of mandibles above sets your hair on edge.The sight of the creature partially illuminated by the torchlight stops your thoughts dead in their tracks. It's big. So big that your mind cannot comprehend it, cannot conceive just how much more of this horrific creature is out there hidden in the dark.

You run.

You hear the thing chitter and unwind behind you, giving chase. You weep, unashamedly in terror. The light of the farmhouse seems so far away, the torches you set up so pathetically inadequate for warding off such a monster. Tam and Lily stare at you in shock as you bowl into the entrance, slamming the door behind you. The creature is so close, right on the other side of the door. Your wife and daughter stare at you in shock as you try to catch your breath, to warn them. Moments pass but it feels like an eternity.

You try not to think about your sons, your other daughters, dead already. You have to save what you can, buy time for help to arrive. Your brother will rouse the village, they'll have heard the disturbance by now.You told your wife you'd nothing to fear, that you were close enough to the village for help to arrive. But will your brother really come to scare of this? No, he's family. He'll not abandon you.

"Da?" Your daughter asks, a sharpness to her question. She knows something is very wrong. She always was the smart one.

"Brian? What the Pit has gotten into-" Your wife, more annoyed than scared. She has no idea.

"LOFT! INTO THE LOFT! NOW!" You bellow, finally getting your wind back with a heaving breath, your wife and daughter turning pale as milk as.

Tam listens to you for once and doesn't hesitate, clambering up the wooden ladder. It's nowhere near high enough to keep them safe from that thing, but there's a latch leading out to the tree hanging overhead. If they can just-

Your wife screams as a mandible splinters through the doorway just above your shoulder. You yell at her to grab Jeremy and follow Tam up the ladder, but she's frozen in terror. That awful chittering... everything you ever feared in the dark now come to life. The door won't hold for long...

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>Tam's last living memory of her father is you barricading the entrance with the dinner table, holding the door and buying your family time to escape. [Farmer]

>Tam's last living memory of her father is you grabbing the mallet and attacking the monster as it breaches the door Trying to do something, anything, to fend off the inevitable... [Ex-soldier]

>Tam's last living memory of her father is you shielding your wife and baby son with your own body as the monster corners your family. [Father]
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>>3049775
>>Tam's last living memory of her father is you barricading the entrance with the dinner table, holding the door and buying your family time to escape. [Farmer]
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>>3049775
>>Tam's last living memory of her father is you shielding your wife and baby son with your own body as the monster corners your family. [Father]
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>>3049775
>Tam's last living memory of her father is you shielding your wife and baby son with your own body as the monster corners your family. [Father]
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>>3049775
>Tam's last living memory of her father is you barricading the entrance with the dinner table, holding the door and buying your family time to escape. [Farmer]
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>>3049775
>>Tam's last living memory of her father is you shielding your wife and baby son with your own body as the monster corners your family. [Father]
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>>3049775
>Tam's last living memory of her father is you shielding your wife and baby son with your own body as the monster corners your family. [Father]
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I'm disappointed i missed the first vote. You guys and your tropes about girls and bows. Also, father is best route. Girl growing up with the memory of a loving father.
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>>3049775
>>Tam's last living memory of her father is you shielding your wife and baby son with your own body as the monster corners your family. [Father]
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>>3049808
He's a loving father in every circumstance.
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>>3049813
Granted yes in this vote he's protecting his family in any option. Not in the first vote though.
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>>3049816
In every circumstance, no matter how we vote here.

I don't know why [Father] is a thing when he obviously is a devoted father in the text and actions. Farmer and Ex Soldier are professions. In fact the Father one in the first vote is also an Ex Soldier so I don't really understand Forgotten's naming convention.

The point is, this dude is Tam's loving father no matter how we vote.
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dammit Tam being an archer os cliche as fuck

>>3049775
>Tam's last living memory of her father is you barricading the entrance with the dinner table, holding the door and buying your family time to escape. [Farmer]
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>>3049822
>What a fools errand, you've made a much happier life here with a family. [Father]
You don't see how this is being a father?
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>>3049775
>Tam's last living memory of her father is you barricading the entrance with the dinner table, holding the door and buying your family time to escape. [Farmer]

>>3049816
To be honest, it takes a fuck ton of muscle to draw a bow and keep it drawn. And considering that you need good eye co-ordination, Tam might actually get the most out of being a Archer.

>>3049823
And yeah, I do agree. It's cliched like a bog standard war movie like about how talking about your fiancee is a death sentence.
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>>3049822
>I don't really understand Forgotten's naming convention
It's really just flavour. The fate of Tam's father is lived and sealed so we don't have the same divergence in choices as we do in Emile's choices.
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>>3049830
>it takes a fuck ton of muscle to draw a bow and keep it drawn.
This is why it's kind of ridiculous that women are always portrayed as archers
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>>3049836
Now that I think about it... I wonder if Crossbows are a thing.
>>3049831
Say QM, are Crossbows a thing in this quest? Because I don't remember if they were or not.
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>>3049808
I just figured that a bow is a strength weapon but a spear can be braced against the ground, thrown, creates distance, and can be easily produced. It's also much more useful in tunnels and caves etc. Which is apparently where most of the monsters are.

Archers are really only good in large groups, or as support.

But I got in to the vote a little too late for discussion.

Oh well. Tam will just have to make up for it with Player Character bullshit so she has a special bow, like a chinese repeating crossbow or a crank crossbow. Or special arrowheads. Or just handwave the whole draw strength issue and have her go full Amazon and get swole through the power of Narrative.
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>>3049830
Personally I kind of wish Tam had been able to be influenced by her mother. Say, knowing about herbs and shit so she could do alchemy and make poisons and drugs to weaken monsters or boost her performance or something.

Sort of like how The Witcher uses alchemy.
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>>3049847
>Crossbows
They're a thing, and especially popular in Pascae and Langland. Knights do not lower their standard to using them of course.
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>>3049861
> Knights do not lower their standard to using them of course.

Is Tam gonna be a Knight though? Or more of a Monster Hunter.

It occurs to me that if she DID know about poisons and such, that she could use those together with a bow to hunt monsters effectively with hit and fade tactics.
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>>3049860
Now that would have been cool. And have our Knight Bro do the proper teaching of combat to Tam.

>>3049861
Thanks m8.
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>>3049864
I can already imagine the arguments between Tam and any knight companions.

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The swirling mass of the giant centipede brushes aside everything in its path as it corners its prey in the confined room, snapping the ladder to the loft in half and vanishing any hope of the rest of the family escaping.

Shielding your wife and babe from the creature dragging its midsection through the splintered door, your death is neither quick nor pleasant. It is also, sadly, in vain. Out of your surviving family, only the quick-thinking and fleet-footed Tam escapes with her life.


>Tam specialises in ranged weaponry, aiming to become a hunter and pathfinder. Due to Sir Andrei’s choice to have her remain in Glasdale care, she does not resort to poaching and eventually is employed as a forester and huntsman by Lord Berriere.
>Tam remembers well the last act of her father, and of Sir Andrei’s defence of her in the lair. She is instilled with a strong urge to protect her companions, especially those weaker than herself.
>Tam will not be ready to leave the Glasdale’s for many years. Whether she makes her own story one day is unknown, but Sir Andrei’s tale continues without her.

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>>3049864
She would have been closer to a knight if we'd taken her as a companion, women of course can't become knights so either way she's closer to monster hunter
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>>3049865
Nothing stopping it from still happening, to be honest.

She now has access to literacy since some Nobles are taking care of her and she could have helped her mom with using herbs as pesticides, dealing with livestock eating the wrong plants and getting sick, etc.

Like I said here >>3049864 it would work well with the Archer choice for letting her still be believably effective with normal bows despite lower draw weight.
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Here's the (dated) combat rules pic.
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>>3049878
There is that one order of knights that takes women.

But Tam is a commoner, for one thing, also a girl, and finally I feel pretty confident she's more interested in fighting and killing Monsters than being honourable and shit.
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>>3049877
>Tam will not be ready to leave the Glasdale’s for many years. Whether she makes her own story one day is unknown, but Sir Andrei’s tale continues without her.
Tam quest!
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>>3049886
Hey, can knights use poison and such against monsters, demons, and beasts?

After all, they're not really enemies the way a human is, they're more like obstacles. Like, you wouldn't challenge an overflowing river to a duel but instead use tools to correct its course.
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>>3049877
>Tam remembers well the last act of her father, and of Sir Andrei’s defence of her in the lair. She is instilled with a strong urge to protect her companions, especially those weaker than herself.
Become the Mother Wolf.
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>>3049889
>There is that one order of knights that takes women.

I honestly don't recall anything about that the closest I remember is female romanie bodyguards.
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>>3049895
>wanting to use poison

Muh idealism
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>>3049895
The Order of Names takes a free for all approach with that. But generally, no it is not considered honourable. Same as murdering a monster in its sleep. You might hire a mercenary or bounty hunter to do it, but there's no glory in it.

>>3049898
Order of Names. There's more info on them in the pastebins.
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>>3049910
How many soldiers is a banner?
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>>3049910
>murdering a monster in its sleep isn't honourable

Does this make it it a path of vain option or a path of thorns option?
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>>3049915
Varies immensely. But all banners are made up of a number of lances. A 'lance' is comprised of:
-1 Knight
-1-2 Man-at-Arms (sworn men, though you can get away with sellswords)
-1-2 Archers
-Squires, pages, servants etc as you deem necessary

>>3049917
Thorns.
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>>3049939
I left you a question in the last thread. Do you have the full system drafted out?

Was it inspired by Pendragon? I really like the way you handle damage.
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>>3049906
Against beasts. You put out poison for rats, no?

>>3049910
So is Glory something we gain mechanically, or is it something people attribute to us?
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>>3049974
I agree with you however montebrunefag wont
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Unfortunately lads I cannot run a full marathon today, this next post detailing Sir Andrei's new goal and destination will be the last today. I will update tomorrow and then I will be heading Outback for a few days so I will only be able to answer questions and post from my phone if the dingoes haven't cut the internet out there.


>>3049958
I don't have the full system drafted out, sorry. I know there was also another anon interested in the BCQ one but the truth is it is entirely homebrew and I think the combats we have done so far demonstrate how the mechanics work. Nothing is hidden if you want to use it for yourself and tweak it however you like for your own quest. I also don't know what the Pendragon system is like.

Keep in mind this system is a WIP. We're already looking at several skill sets that can potentially insta-gib foes with a little luck at the cost of ending the quest on a bad roll. I'm also trying to figure out how to convert it to a sci-fi combat setting right now in preparation for BCQ 2230AD someday.

>>3049974
No mechanic glory facet, it's purely narrative and opportunity/status based.

It -may- count towards having higher social standing if we're talking A LOT of glory/renown/status. You currently wouldn't be considered a 'peer' of a world-famous knight for example even though you both hold the same rank.

>>3049982
Oi. Don't start this shit again.
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>>3049990
Not planning on it chief that shit died with last thread
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>>3049990
So, what about things like flying creatures. Is it okay to use special weapons to damage their wings first?

Or for any a large beast, could we bait it into a trap? The idea from last thread about spiking the mouth of the cave so that if we had to retreat it would slow the monster down, where would that fall?

I mean, we aren't a Gladiator either.
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Hell yeah, finally here at the start of one
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>>3049990
>BCQ 2230AD
How about BCQ 3230AD, with mechs.
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>>3050002
Bolas, spears, archery and traps are all perfectly acceptable.

Here you begin to blur the line between hunting game and engaging in honourable combat. We can address this in full later, but at the end of the day you could argue that anything not outright dishonourable merely affects bragging rights.

>>3050008
>Give me back my Albani Warmachines
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[2/3]


Present Day, an Early Spring morning, Western Romaine

”I’m beginning to enjoy being on the road.” You lean back in your saddle, smiling fondly in memory of the lovely dinner ‘Lady’ Glasdale prepared last night. ”It is just as well, I suppose. We have a lot of it left to travel before our journey’s end.”

”House Andrei lands ain’t that far aways, sire. Unless… you mean we’re not going home, m’lord?” Mikail asks with a confused expression. He has apparently not realised that Errantry is more than just completing a single quest. It is a rite of passage, a lifestyle even for some of those more dedicated souls. ”Your Lord Father said we should come to the Summer Tourney…”

”We have plenty of time until then, Mikail.” And besides, should duty or adventure call you may have to miss it entirely. Father would understand, he loves the competition but detests the inevitable jostling and politiking. Mother, on the other hand…

You’re not too far out from Grenoble, the westernmost Romaine town. You intend to sell off the Horror Eggs to some enterprising merchant or alchemist and stock up on supplies for the next leg of your journey. Speaking of which, it’s about time you actually gave that some thought.
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[3/3]

The previous thread hasn't actually dropped off yet, you can find MapBro's creation here >>3019356


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(1) Destination
>Sir Glasdale informed you of a small tourney occurring in Fallavon, he does not feel that he would be welcome there any longer so you are free to take his place. It is also the site of one of the Four Steps on the Canton Pilgrimage, the place of the largest battle in the world where Adam and Cain broke the back of the Wild Foe. [Motte-Fallavon]

>You're making your way to the Capital Aubrey. Even if a man is not so pious as to complete their entire pilgrimage in their lifetime, it is expected of most Knights to at some point stand their vigil at the Church of Adam's Martyrdom. [Aubres]

>You have another destination in mind, one where you can achieve another great feat. [Pascae/Montbrun/Romaine/Foreign Lands] More information is in the pastebin and previous threads/

(2)
>What is your next goal? Are you ready to swear a Sacred Oath to see it done? [Write-In]

Be specific, and keep in mind that caveats and disclaimers are not permitted to avoid dishonour for failure other than ‘…or die in the attempt.’ This is a sacred oath not a legal contract.

The oath must be sworn upon an altar or some holy item with a member of the church present. This will easy enough to find in Grenoble.

It is perfectly fine to NOT swear an oath, but your stated goal must be impressive indeed before I would even consider granting a Knight’s Code upon completion. Likewise, swearing a solemn oath for an easy and straightforward task that any commoner could complete will not automatically entitle you to a Knight’s Code unless it turns out to be more difficult than it first appeared.


(3)
>Anything in particular you wish to write to your family? The whereabouts of your elder brother is currently unknown but you have three older sisters and two younger sisters. Plus one younger brother. There is also Father and Mother, of course. Don’t make me name them.
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>>3050040
>>You're making your way to the Capital Aubrey. Even if a man is not so pious as to complete their entire pilgrimage in their lifetime, it is expected of most Knights to at some point stand their vigil at the Church of Adam's Martyrdom. [Aubres]
>What is your next goal? Are you ready to swear a Sacred Oath to see it done?
Well depends what events happens on the way there I guess. Don't think that standing vigil as of itself will need an Oath for it.
>Anything in particular you wish to write to your family?
Just maybe update them of our intended destination in case something happens to us.
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>>3050040
Head to the tournament, but with plans to stop at an area on the way that is having bandit troubles.
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>>3050040
>>You're making your way to the Capital Aubrey. Even if a man is not so pious as to complete their entire pilgrimage in their lifetime, it is expected of most Knights to at some point stand their vigil at the Church of Adam's Martyrdom. [Aubres]
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>>3050040
>You're making your way to the Capital Aubrey. Even if a man is not so pious as to complete their entire pilgrimage in their lifetime, it is expected of most Knights to at some point stand their vigil at the Church of Adam's Martyrdom. [Aubres]


>Anything in particular you wish to write to your family?
Let them know that we helped our friend with his monster problem and what our next intended place we're going to.
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>>3050040
Which pilgrimage site is supposed to be the first one to take in the Canton pilgrimage?
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>>3050040
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>You're making your way to the Capital Aubrey. Even if a man is not so pious as to complete their entire pilgrimage in their lifetime, it is expected of most Knights to at some point stand their vigil at the Church of Adam's Martyrdom. [Aubres]

I wanna see what court is like

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Present ourselves at court and complete the vigil, no oaths or vows just yet

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We succesfully killed the beast and our on our way to Aubrey to complete our vigil
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>>3050052
None in particular is first, but the Long Walk in Nova Cathagi is traditionally the last and longest leg of any Canton pilgrimage.
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>>3050077
Thanks.

>>3050040
>You're making your way to the Capital Aubrey. Even if a man is not so pious as to complete their entire pilgrimage in their lifetime, it is expected of most Knights to at some point stand their vigil at the Church of Adam's Martyrdom. [Aubres]
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>>3050040
1.
>You're making your way to the Capital Aubrey. Even if a man is not so pious as to complete their entire pilgrimage in their lifetime, it is expected of most Knights to at some point stand their vigil at the Church of Adam's Martyrdom. [Aubres]
2.
No vow yet. I have a feeling something worthwhile will come to light in the capital.
3.
The we are heading to Aubrey and plan to stand our vigil
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>>3050040
>>Sir Glasdale informed you of a small tourney occurring in Fallavon, he does not feel that he would be welcome there any longer so you are free to take his place. It is also the site of one of the Four Steps on the Canton Pilgrimage, the place of the largest battle in the world where Adam and Cain broke the back of the Wild Foe. [Motte-Fallavon]
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>>3050040
>Motte-Fallavon
Time to prove our worth in single combat!
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>>3050062
>>3050040
Supporting
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>>3050120
oh yeah, confirming that I'm not samefagging™ even though it doesn't seem to matter with how the vote is leaning
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>>3050040
>(1) Destination
>Sir Glasdale informed you of a small tourney occurring in Fallavon, he does not feel that he would be welcome there any longer so you are free to take his place. It is also the site of one of the Four Steps on the Canton Pilgrimage, the place of the largest battle in the world where Adam and Cain broke the back of the Wild Foe. [Motte-Fallavon]

(2)
Not sure if it would be "Vow" worthy, but I think it would be cool to go to the tourney, but then do then entire Canton Pilrimage and only then after we have finished go to the Capital for our vigil.

Or if we go to the Capital then do the entire pilgrimage.

(3)
Write that we helped slay the beast plaguing the area with some details on what kind of beast it was etc. and what our next destination is.
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>>3050151
Vowing to take part in a tournament is probably not. But vowing to win a specific tourney or melee definitely would be, even in a minor tourney you're putting your honour on the line against at least 8 of your peers.
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>>3050040
>Aubreys
>Our vigil and achieve the first point of our pilgrimage no sacred path yet
>we killed the beast, gladsdale is a pariah, should we enquire of our brother?
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>>3050062
Supporting this.
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>>3050040
Just woke up, first post in part 3

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>Sir Glasdale informed you of a small tourney occurring in Fallavon, he does not feel that he would be welcome there any longer so you are free to take his place. It is also the site of one of the Four Steps on the Canton Pilgrimage, the place of the largest battle in the world where Adam and Cain broke the back of the Wild Foe. [Motte-Fallavon]

in fact just +1 anon>>3050151
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>>3050040
>Sir Glasdale informed you of a small tourney occurring in Fallavon, he does not feel that he would be welcome there any longer so you are free to take his place. It is also the site of one of the Four Steps on the Canton Pilgrimage, the place of the largest battle in the world where Adam and Cain broke the back of the Wild Foe. [Motte-Fallavon]
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Forgotten whats are the rules of marriage? Men still have rule over women?
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>>3050396
Romaine is a little more liberal for women, in effect if not in law. It is also sacrilege to marry someone against their consent, though this was the case in much of real life Christendom and I doubt what the bride desired factored into too many marriages.

You can't force women to marry, but family and societal pressures generally mean you'll get the girl if you win her family over. It's also possible to marry in spite of their dislike of you, should you convince the would-be bride. Scandalous but it happens. Some fathers will pay no heed to what their daughter wants, others will never even suggest marriage let alone demand it unless their daughter says so. Most will fall somewhere in between, weighing an attractive marriage arrangement against whether or not their daughter approves.

There is no 'bedroom right' either, at least under church law though not in general law. Many nuns started out as an abused spouse seeking an escape. If they claim sanctuary the church HAS to provide it, it was one of Salve Reginaes foundations.
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>>3050040
>Sir Glasdale informed you of a small tourney occurring in Fallavon, he does not feel that he would be welcome there any longer so you are free to take his place. It is also the site of one of the Four Steps on the Canton Pilgrimage, the place of the largest battle in the world where Adam and Cain broke the back of the Wild Foe. [Motte-Fallavon]

Fights, ladies and (perhaps) sordid intrigue. What's not to love?

>What is your next goal? Are you ready to swear a Sacred Oath to see it done? [Write-In]
No vow yet.

>Anything in particular you wish to write to your family? The whereabouts of your elder brother is currently unknown but you have three older sisters and two younger sisters. Plus one younger brother. There is also Father and Mother, of course.
Write that we helped slay the beast plaguing the area with some details on what kind of beast it was etc. and what our next destination is.
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”Can you already see yourself setting foot in Fair Aubrey? To stand in the shadow of the Church of Adam’s Martyrdom, to stand where He stood.” You slacken your reigns as you take a drink, letting Hannibal continue the pace he has settled into. It’s barely midday and you’re already halfway through your flask. ”The King and Queen, the ladies fair, the Grand Market. The people, thousands upon thousands of them, from the Great to the Low…”

As someone considered fairly boisterous and outgoing, you can hardly wait. Such excitement! You don’t quite know what you’ll do there, after you stand your vigil of course. But you do know it shall be something great. Something tells you that adventure may find you if you don’t find it…

”That’s a lot of people. Bigger than Grenoble, m’lord?” Mikail looks more unnerved at the prospect than he did charging down the Creeping Horror. The population of middling Romaine town of Grenoble was enough of a shock to his understanding of the scale of the world.

”Aubrey, Mikail.” You look askance at your squire, checking to make sure he’s not jesting. ”It’s the Capital of the continent, lad. The centre of the known world.”

”So… bigger then?”

”Yes, Mikail. Much bigger.” Honestly, sometimes you sincerely worry for this boy. This is why you don’t try to engage in higher conversation with him.

The armoured traveller coming from the opposite direction looks like he may offer some more interesting dialog, or at least give you useful information as you pass.

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>>3049678
is nice to see Andrei back !


so
>>3034453


i have made some Glasdale variants, but guess what not even one is good, half of the dogs seems bloodthirsty or just mere crap crap&poor in details. (others seems just wolves ; the images i have used varied a bit so they are a bit different from each other. the red is really similar to the one of the rousseau lions).

i mean almost all of the shields make the Glasdale look too evil or ambiguous.

well let s have a laugh.
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>>3050932
I swear shieldfag you truly are one of this quest's heroes.
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>>3050932
You're a scholar and gentlemen, sir.
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>>3050932
> by Gianni Pinotto
Kek

Nice work though, Shield Bro.
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[2/2]

As he gets close enough you can distinguish his heraldry, a Red Bull on a Yellow/Black chequered partition. His horse is a pale white courser, and he seems armed and armoured as you. You notice the man is wearing his gauntlets on the open road, an uncomfortable but understandable precaution for one travelling the road alone.

”Godsgrace, traveller.” You raise your bare hand in greeting. Father taught you that only overeager squires wear their gauntlets at all times, but the man’s golden spurs indicate he is knighted. ”I am Sir Emile Andrei. How fares the road ahead?”

”Sir Andrei. I am Sir Daven Vancewell.” You recognise the name Vancewell, your tutors took pains to ensure you learnt your heraldry well. But, aside from them being a minor Montbrun house, you know nothing of them. You have guessed he was Montbrun straight away regardess, his pale complexion and gruff manner mark him out at one of those hill types. ”Not good. I passed a burnt out dwelling not too long ago. Must have happened during the night, beastsmen most like, growing bolder everyday they say. How is the road ahead?”
”There was some foul manner of monster attacking folk in the northward village, we have taken care of it.”

”Impressive. As for these murders I’ve already tried to locate the beastmen tracks to no avail, I must be home soon on important business and cannot waste my time on the matter any further.” Sir Vancewell smiles congenially, brushing off his failure to locate the offenders with a laissez-faire attitude you find irksome for some reason. After all, he’s given no reason as to why he thinks this is beastment rather than brigands or some peasant feud.

It occurs to you that the man appeared to be in no urgency to be along the road and home to Montbrun when you first spotted him. You suspect this is some excuse to avoid getting entangled in things not concerning him, especially when he tells you he did not turn back and inform the Grenoble Bailiff of the attack. Sir Vancewell and you talk briefly, he is recently returned from the capital. It would be somewhat rude of you to say so, but you’re surprised how much he talks of himself being in the Royal Prince’s favour and how little he speaks of the Vigil.

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>>3050966
[3/3]

As the two of you part he asks again whether you will investigate the attacked dwelling further down the road.

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>”It is along the way, so we shall make some attempt to locate the tracks at least. Two eyes are better than one.” At the very least, you’ll make a report other than rumour to the Grenoble Bailiff. It irks you to see a fellow knight neglect his duties, even if he feels no loyalty to this Duchy. [Haughty]

>”I am sure the Order of the Broken Blade will see that justice is meted out to these creatures. Tell me about the Prince.” You have better things to do, and this knight may have some interesting new from the Capital. [Hearty]

>”Good sir, we should make another attempt together. We’ll see justice done for these folk.” The knight seems adamant that he has urgent business at home, but you may attempt to convince him. If handled poorly, it may come across as a direct insult of his abilities. [Idealist]
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>>3050974
>>”It is along the way, so we shall make some attempt to locate the tracks at least. Two eyes are better than one.” At the very least, you’ll make a report other than rumour to the Grenoble Bailiff. It irks you to see a fellow knight neglect his duties, even if he feels no loyalty to this Duchy. [Haughty]
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>>3050974
>”It is along the way, so we shall make some attempt to locate the tracks at least. Two eyes are better than one.” At the very least, you’ll make a report other than rumour to the Grenoble Bailiff. It irks you to see a fellow knight neglect his duties, even if he feels no loyalty to this Duchy. [Haughty]
Must focus on the Vigil
>Vigilautism achieved
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>>3050974
>>>”It is along the way, so we shall make some attempt to locate the tracks at least. Two eyes are better than one.” At the very least, you’ll make a report other than rumour to the Grenoble Bailiff. It irks you to see a fellow knight neglect his duties, even if he feels no loyalty to this Duchy. [Haughty]
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i mean watch this. It s just screams "I'M EVIL ! GRRRRRRRRRR !" or something along those lines
(taken from an old medieval picture this one. essentially in the original there were some farmers beating this giant dog, and ... i need to find the original so you can see. )


>>3050935
>>3050946
thanks. but i don t know if i m that good. I really just hope that this stuff attracts far better people that can give more than this.
>>3050952
thanks.

you mean it sound a bit hypocrite that i have put "for free" at the start and then "by gianni pinotto" ? you are probably not wrong, afterall i don t see a friend putting his watermark on a gift for a friend.
it s sound and it feels so fucking pathetic the more than i think about.
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>>3050998
I haven't the faintest clue why you're beating yourself up, mate. I think that anon just finds your name to be funny that's all.
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here the original.


>>3050998
>you mean it sound a bit hypocrite that i have put "for free" at the start and then "by gianni pinotto" ? you are probably not wrong, afterall i don t see a friend putting his watermark on a gift for a friend.
it s sound and it feels so fucking pathetic the more than i think about.


that was a nice piece of drama, let s just forget it shall we ?

wait where you just meaning the old comic duo ?
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>>3051036
Man, nothing wrong with putting your name on something you made. It's cool.
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>>3051036
Why not take "inspiration" from some real life heraldry?
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>>3051045
that has made me think if here is necessary that i should do that.


even if i have actually just search for something that wasn t there and literally imagine it. That anon was probably just thinking about the comic duo, and i haven t think of the obvious .

still forgotten do you have any problems with that ?

>>3051058
i could use that. thk


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let s continue with the images (we need to have fun, the last thing i was thinking about was making a scene like that. It will never happen again)

and the quest
>”It is along the way, so we shall make some attempt to locate the tracks at least. Two eyes are better than one.” At the very least, you’ll make a report other than rumour to the Grenoble Bailiff. It irks you to see a fellow knight neglect his duties, even if he feels no loyalty to this Duchy. [Haughty]
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>>3051035
I wonder Forgotten, would someone like him, possibly have some info into the wherabouts of our brother?
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>>3051136


and for conclusion the red version
>>3050932
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>>3051130
I have the exact opposite of a problem with that!
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>>3051140
You mean Sir Vancewell? There's no reason for Emile believe he would, or that our brother has anything to do with the Royal Prince.
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I should note that our brother isn't strictly 'missing'. He's laying low but the family is worried about him and wants him home.
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>>3050974
>”It is along the way, so we shall make some attempt to locate the tracks at least. Two eyes are better than one.” At the very least, you’ll make a report other than rumour to the Grenoble Bailiff. It irks you to see a fellow knight neglect his duties, even if he feels no loyalty to this Duchy. [Haughty]
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>>3051153
Ok


Then i will continue with other shields and maybe trying to make an "episode" of the story.
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Sorry for that guys, it was really stupid .
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>>3050974
>”It is along the way, so we shall make some attempt to locate the tracks at least. Two eyes are better than one.” At the very least, you’ll make a report other than rumour to the Grenoble Bailiff. It irks you to see a fellow knight neglect his duties, even if he feels no loyalty to this Duchy. [Haughty]
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>>3050974
>>”It is along the way, so we shall make some attempt to locate the tracks at least. Two eyes are better than one.” At the very least, you’ll make a report other than rumour to the Grenoble Bailiff. It irks you to see a fellow knight neglect his duties, even if he feels no loyalty to this Duchy. [Haughty]
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>>3050974
>>”It is along the way, so we shall make some attempt to locate the tracks at least. Two eyes are better than one.” At the very least, you’ll make a report other than rumour to the Grenoble Bailiff. It irks you to see a fellow knight neglect his duties, even if he feels no loyalty to this Duchy. [Haughty]
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>>3050974
>>”It is along the way, so we shall make some attempt to locate the tracks at least. Two eyes are better than one.” At the very least, you’ll make a report other than rumour to the Grenoble Bailiff. It irks you to see a fellow knight neglect his duties, even if he feels no loyalty to this Duchy. [Haughty]
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>>3050974
>”It is along the way, so we shall make some attempt to locate the tracks at least. Two eyes are better than one.” At the very least, you’ll make a report other than rumour to the Grenoble Bailiff. It irks you to see a fellow knight neglect his duties, even if he feels no loyalty to this Duchy. [Haughty]
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>>3050998
Wow.

No, it was just because I got the reference to the comic duo.

>>3050974
>”It is along the way, so we shall make some attempt to locate the tracks at least. Two eyes are better than one.” At the very least, you’ll make a report other than rumour to the Grenoble Bailiff. It irks you to see a fellow knight neglect his duties, even if he feels no loyalty to this Duchy. [Haughty]
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>>3050974
>Other (if possible)
We should hunt down the beastman alone.
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I've never seen such a concensus on Valour vote, must be losing my touch.

I'll try to crack out an update tomorrow morning before I head out to WupWup. It'll be fairly open, I won't be able to provide much input over the next few days before we get back to our regular schedule.
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>>3052262
Been there, done that
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>>3052414
Let's hope we're over the 200+ posts about stupid shit bump
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>>3052422
Ho! Don't count on it
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>>3052414
Hey so I didn't see that this thread was up and commented at the end of the last one. Just want to give you props for BCQ after having binged it in its entirety this past week

>>3052433
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>>3052422
>Let's hope we're over the 200+ posts about stupid shit bump
What will happen before, will happen again.
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i want to know what possesses people, psychologically, to care so fucking much about really minor decisions. i swear there are some real manchildren (and possibly literal children) in these threads
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>>3052453
Glad you enjoyed the ride! Thank you for the glowing review.
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”It is on the way, so we shall make some attempt to locate the tracks at least. Two eyes are better than one.” At the very least, you’ll make a report other than rumour to the Grenoble Bailiff. It irks you to see a fellow knight neglect his duties, even if he feels no loyalty to this Duchy.

”Good luck, Sir Andrei. I’m glad to hear there is a clear road ahead, I won’t be needing to use this.” The knight of Montbrun grins as he pats the steel mace hanging by his side, oblivious to your unsaid implication that he has shirked his obligations.

”Safe travels, Sir Vancewell.” You nod sharply, hopefully managing to keep the annoyance out of your voice.

It doesn’t take you long to spot a trail of smoke clear enough down the road. Within the hour you arrive at the place Sir Vancewell described to find the building largely intact.

[1/2]
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>>3053611
So this is the type of knight from Montbrun...
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>>3053641
It's a type, although the shirker might seem to be just as prevalent among the other kinds of knights.
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This close to the border you rarely find buildings with the striking walls and terracotta roof typical of Romaine, at least not outside of built up areas. The simple wooden structure and thatch roof should have burnt to the ground long before you arrived, but it appears the damp from a recent rain has kept the fire to a smouldering level rather than a raging inferno. Half the building has collapsed, likely where the fire had drier material to work with, but the remainder is intact and salvageable.

You direct Mikail to draw water from the trough and put the fires out as best they can. The Montbrun knight could have done the same, but doubtless he saw preserving the property as something beneath him. You see no sign of the assailant’s continued presence, nor any immediately apparent tracks aside from your own horses and that of one other. Nonetheless, you draw steel as you enter the abode.

It is apparent that the fire, alight in several locations around the roof, was started on purpose. As if the bodies inside left any doubt. The first you find is a man, collapsed falling outward in the doorway. He looks to have been in his fourth decade, with the embroidered knee-length tunic of a well-to-do tradesman rather than a farmer. Dried blood lies caked around his face and doorsteps, the back of his head is a messy pulp. Hanging by the doorway inside is a common shortsword, still in its sheath.

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[3/3]

Another body, burnt and blackened, lies under the collapsed beam of a roof to the right of the entrance where the fire damage is most severe. You cannot be certain, but their build indicates they were a woman. On the table next to her four bowls of cold stew are laid out, untouched by the violence around them.

In the opposite corner of the property, so far untouched by flame, lies a third body. The girl, of age but young enough to not likely be the man’s wife, has had her throat slit from ear to ear. Her wrists are bruised and she lies in a state of undress, her green garment torn at the shoulders and thigh. You’d heard stories of the depravity of the beastfolk, , but her slaying seems so cold and methodical. Her sightless eyes disturb you in their serenity, marred only by the tracks of tears and a split lip. It’s not the first corpse you’ve seen, Almighty knows, but you are affected all the same for some reason.
You hear your squire approaching from outside and draw a cover over the murdered girl’s body. Some things the boys doesn’t need to see.

”M’lord, them fires is out. Do you-“ Mikail stops abruptly at the sight of the bodies.

”Good work, Mikail. Did you find any tracks closer to the treeline?” At least you won’t have to bury them, you’re close enough to Grenoble that you can let their people know and make arrangements. Disturbingly close in fact, brigands or beastfolk willing to openly attack.

”No such luck, I looked two more times all over. Nothing, not so much as a bent twig.” Your squire shakes his head. ”Them beasts didn’t take none of the livestock though, there’s a few chooks wandering about.”

That is interesting. They didn’t take the sheathed sword either. Something doesn’t add up. Brigands perhaps?

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(1)
>What happened here?

(2)
>What do you do now?
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I won't be able to update for a couple of days, as I've said. But hopefully I can answer questions if we have internet access out there, which I'm not certain there will be.
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>Dried blood lies caked around his face and doorsteps, the back of his head is a messy pulp.

Sounds like a mace wound. Wait... Sir Vancewell...
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>>3053777
(1)
>It wasn't a raid, it was a calculated murder. Someone wanted these people dead for a good reason. But what reason we won't know until we gain more information about the family. But let it be said that the murderer must have been either well trusted or close to this family for them to not fight back.

I'm pretty sure that someone else can think of a better plan than I am towards choices on the matter of action.
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>>3053800
It could also be him as a suspect, I would not be surprised at the idea that a knight would carry a dagger of somekind as a cutting implement
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>>3053777
Sir Vancewell is the prime suspect. Mikhail can't find any other tracks besides 'that of one other' regarding a horse, the wound on the man is similar to that caused by a mace, and Vancewell's own haste to get some distance between him and here.

Since the trader's shortsword is still in it's sheath I imagine Vancewell was invited in to share dinner as the four bowls also signify.

During his stay he bashed the husband's head in and bound, raped and killed the daughter.

The odd thing is the wife. She's buried under a beam which implies she died in the fire which I imagine Vancewell lit last
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>>3053827
It makes sense. Knights are often seen by the peasantry as powerful warriors who are bound by a code, not only that they are often considered protectors of the realm so there usually no reason to deny a knight food and shelter.

Now that I think about it.... The young girl's throat was cut.

>>3053777
(2)
>Check the shortsword for any blood on the blade to be sure
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>>3053827
I also want to point out that since the trader was

>collapsed falling outward in the doorway.

He was hit from the back from someone inside the house which also adds weight that Vancewell was already inside enjoying their hospitality.

It also adds another mystery. It implies the trader was opening the door for someone before he got hit.
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>>3053777
>What do you do now?
My preferred action would be to apprehend Vancewell before he gets too far.
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>>3053800
>suspecting a Knight

HOW DARE obvious answer is obvious and I kinda want to miss it on purpose


>>3053777
>What happened here?
Man was taken by Surprise and clubbed to death by a club or mace, Woman was raped and murdered, do beastman do this? it looks more like a bandit if not....

>What do you do now?
Bury the bodies as best we can and set out to find the perpetrators and mett out justice

also Salvage what we can from the ruin of the house, anything particularly valuable should be buried with the family.
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>>3053863
Burying would take a long time and our suspect is on a horse. I'm all for burying them, but we might need to go now and come back.
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>>3050966
>You notice the man is wearing his gauntlets on the open road, an uncomfortable but understandable precaution for one travelling the road alone.

He was hiding something underneath the gauntlets, lads. He probably had blood on his hands.
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seconding
>>3053801
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>>3053853
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>>3053777
>What happened here?
It appears someone was invited in. This person then killed the man and his wife. Then this person raped and killed their daughter. All the signs point to Vancewell. The man was clearly killed by a mace. Vancewell acted strange on the road. He would be the type to be welcomed by the family into their home which allowed him to take them off guard.

>What do you do now?
Let's examine the shortsword. Then let's go find Vancewell and question him. We'll start by being coy and saying we found tracks heading this way down the road and start to question him.
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>>3053777
Why aren't we chasing down that knight we passed?
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I mostly agree with this anon >>3053938. However, if Vancewell is the culprit (of course he is, he's a degenerate Montbrun) mentioning tracks would tip him off because he knows there are none.

So, I propose this:
>>3053777
>What happened here?
It appears someone was invited in. This person then killed the man and his wife. Then this person raped and killed their daughter. All the signs point to Vancewell. The man was clearly killed by a mace. Vancewell acted strange on the road. He would be the type to be welcomed by the family into their home which allowed him to take them off guard.

>What do you do now?
Let's examine the shortsword. Then let's go find Vancewell and question him. We'll start by saying that by the time we arrived, the fire had consumed the dwelling already, so we would like to know what he saw - any detail on these 'Beastmen' would be valuable.
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>>3053777
>What happened here?
Vancewell murdered them (You made it disappointingly obvious.)

>What do you do now?
Chase after Vancewell to question him obviously. However, we shouldn't lie to him about finding beastmen tracks. He will realize we're lying and are suspecting him. After that, he will just say that he doesn't have any details as he was in a hurry. We need to find a way to get him to take off his gauntlets (he's definitely hiding something damning in them.)
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>>3054888
>You made it disappointingly obvious.
It is seeming too obvious.

You guys are right though. The tracks idea would be too obvious. I guess the question becomes do we straight out accuse him or do we try to entrap him. Entrapment doesn't really feel like Emile's thing. Maybe we should just roll up and be like "Confess your sins!"
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>>3055335
How about we challenge him in a trial by combat? Does a concept like that exist in Canton?
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>>3055375
>in a trial by combat?
*To a trial by combat.
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>>3055375
I remember forgotten saying something about trials by combat before. I don't remember if it was a post or in the pastebin.

Forgotten,. If we do confront another knight with a trial by combat and we defeat him, what becomes of his belongings? Do we get rights to his horse and armour?
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Found it in the second thread

>Trial by combat is generally accepted as an obvious means of the Almighty revealing the innocent or guilty and is a perfect 'out' for many nobles who are either skilled themselves or surrounded by skilled retainers
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>>3055335
To be fair, this really feels more like he's running us with trainingwheels on, rsther than him lacking the skill to toss us into a noggin' knocker of a riddle
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>>3056916
Considering what happened in the first thread he would be right for keeping the wheels on us for a good while longer.
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>>3056929
Eh, first thread was an unlucky crit and not so much lack of player skill, it would have killed any knight (as much peeps want to say THEIR snowflake knight would have lived magically) we went into that fight with a good advantage, it's just anons want to fingerpoint.
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>>3056947
I'm just sayin that there was a lot of shit goin on that might have gotten him wary about having it happen so soon again.
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>>3056916
>rather than him lacking the skill
Well I surely wasn't questioning the QMs skill but more questioning if we are jumping the gun on Vancewell
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>>3057016
>>3055335
My ID is going to change a dozen times. I'm traveling the US version of the outback. The U.P.
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>>3057016
There just aren't any other tracks besides his. We don't know why he did what he did, but I don't see any other alternative suspect.
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>You are convinced the culprit of these murders is Sir Vancewell
>You begin your pursuit to confront (and possibly apprehend) him before he leaves the Duchy borders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8YbBNVC-yA

Riding Pursuit Check
>DC 80


0 = Vancewell galloped for the border the moment you were out of sight. Pursuit failed.
1 = Vancewell stayed off the road after you met, Pathfinder/Tracking skill check required.
2 = Unaware of your pursuit, you quickly locate Vancewell along the road.
3 = Successful pursuit + bonus during confrontation.


3 rolls of 1d100.

Mikail, to horse!
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Rolled 55 (1d100)

>>3059094
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Rolled 15 (1d100)

>>3059094
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Rolled 37 (1d100)

>>3059094
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Rolled 5 (1d100)

>>3059094
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>>3059096
>>3059098
>>3059102
For once we didn't screw it up.
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>>3059105
Shhhhh! The dice gods will hear you, don't wake them
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>>3059105
And now you've jinxed it, he's probably going to be a daemon prince in disguise in disguise
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>>3059109
Wait... demon? Prince? W-what colour was his armour again???? Shit, this could be bad /s
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>>3059109
>>3059112
Speaking of Daemons, are you anons gonna buy GRRM's book ''Fire and Blood''? It's gonna be released today.
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>>3059114
Nah fuck that fat bastard, give me the next ASOIAF or nothing. I'll MAYBE get it in 20 years time after he "finishes" the series
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>>3059115
>after he "finishes" the series
Oh, my sweet summer child, you have much to learn.
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>>3059118
Look I can pretend that I hold out hope ok? It's the only way to get through the day. It'll be done... one day... really
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>>3059120
>It'll be done... one day... really
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
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>>3059122
Well it's not like he will live forever.
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>>3059120
I have more faith in Berserk getting finished before ASOIAF.
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>>3059096

Also, it looks like we doubled on a success. Can't wait to see the results on this one.
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>>3060069
Ah, sorry to say that Doubles only have a -mechanical- bonus in combat. Outside of combat it will be narrative only.

Needless to say, Sir Andrei will have his suspicions vindicated from that double and hidden bonus narratively speaking. Where he goes from there, well that will be tonight's vote.
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>>3060119
>Where he goes from there
We are the hand of Vengeance
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No update tonight or tomorrow gents, real is a bitch sometimes. I'll make up for it this Friday 12-1pm AEST.
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>>3060593
Awwww yis, not having to translate timezones is the sweet life (and I have a day off)
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>>>3034453

so Sancroix, another family from Romaine.


>>3051058
and shield for the glasdale
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>>3062277
maybe i should have made the tongue red.


regardless it s still ok and similar to the original.
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>>3062281
Maybe color the crown too. Otherwise really fekking good shieldanon.
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>3 Success
>Sir Andrei and Mikail make good time and catch up to Sir Vancewell
>Sir Andrei's suspicions of Sir Vancewell involvement are vindicated

The evidence is does not match up with Sir Vancewell's account. Beastmen had nothing to do with these murders. They are at home in the woods, and it is possible their attack would have left tracks only an experienced woodsman would be able to follow this. But no sane man would invite such creatures into his home, or greet them without a weapon in hand.

No, a man did this. Not a band of brigands either, judging from the food set out and sheathed sword. An individual, invited into the home of these folks before cutting down his host from behind and then doing as he willed with the women. Deliberate, cruel and apparently without any reason beyond their base inclinations.

You suspect Sir Vancewell, it's where all the signs point. You can't fathom why a knight would commit such a base and apparently unprovoked crime, but you'll not give him the chance to escape justice.

"Mikail, to horse!" To his credit, the boy does not question you, immediately bringing up Hannibal and his own nag and mounting up. There is little opportunity to explain as you gallop back northwards, your squire clearly does not understand your conclusion. But he does not question you.

You make good time, your young destrier Hannibal is thrilled to be given some proper exercise and you can feel the budding excitement in the stallions movement. It is with some difficulty that you pace him so that your squire's own ill-bred gelding can keep pace.

[1/2]
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>>3062632

You find Sir Vancewell by a creekbed, his horse tied to an overhanging branch. The man is washing his hands, they show red scratches on the back of his palms.

”Ah, Sir Andrei.” Sir Vancewell greets you with a smile, perhaps you only imagine his nervousness. He notices your lack of salutation and your stare at the marks on his hands. ”It is the new gauntlets unfortunately, absolutely terrible. I should have the armourer whipped.”

"I am no village idiot, sir." You use his title with no small amount of venom. "Were they so uncomfortable you would not have been wearing them as we passed along the road.”
As you speak Mikail edges his horse over to Sir Vancewell’s, as you previously directed to. This none too subtly positions your squire between the man and his escape.

”Whatever do you mean?” Sir Vancewell’s tone is less friendly, his hand dropping to the mace at his side.

”You know well what I mean.” You state flatly, edging Hannibal closer. The horse twitches, as if sensing that galloping chase was the least of the excitement to be had today.

"…I am close friends with the Crown Prince and His Excellency Montbrun. Be careful before you make some outlandish accusation…" Sir Vancewell changes tact, his eye darting from you to your squire to the distance to his horse. He is not quite trapped, but the noose is closing and he knows it. The man has a slippery tongue, quite in contrast to the typical Montbrun reputation. He has clearly been at Court a long time. "His Highness would be most displeased if I were delayed while acting for him on a mission of grave importance."

It is not an admission, not quite. But it is enough to convince you. This man is responsible. But what will you do now that your suspicions are confirmed?

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[2/3]
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>>3062658

>"Sir Vancewell of House Vancewell, sworn vassal of Duke Montbrun, sworn Vavasour and Ally to His Majesty the King. I denounce and condemn thee. I name thee murderer and demand Trial by Combat by the Law of Adam." Your attack of this man will be unquestionably legal. There are rules though, you will have to dismount and Mikail may not assist you. It is possible that your account will come into doubt as Mikail is a mere commoner witness. Swearing a sacred oath that you are speaking the truth should suffice. Should you lose, he may not be challenged or tried again for this crime. [Idealist]

>"You revolting, wretched worm. You are no knight. What pox-ridden mule did your mother bed to sire such a craven killer?" If you goad the man into attacking you then you may declare self-defence and lay claim to his horse and arms, as it was during the War of Borders. However, if word were to get out, it be a legal quandary which would almost certainly result in a feud between your two Houses. [Haughty]

>"As one knight to another, my discretion in this matter will not come cheap." Whether the murders were at the Prince's behest or not, you can most certainly use this to further your family's interests politically. The man was proud of his connections in the Courts, as vile as he is the man may serve a greater purpose as an introduction to the real power in Canton. You must also consider whether obstructing him here will irk those very same allies he claims to have. [Hearty]

>”Enough. Die as you lived, like a dog.” Ride the man down, give him no opportunity to reach his horse. You’ll have an overwhelming advantage in combat, but this is legally unsound. He is not defenceless, so this is not in breach of your vow. This man has not acted like a knight or man of noble bearing, so you shall not treat him as one. [Haughty]

>”Explain yourself, Vancewell. One word of a lie and I shall cut you down where you stand.” You cannot believe this was without reason. Even an execution order from the Duke Montbrun or Crown Prince would be illegal without the Romani Duchess in agreement. And as for the rape… There could be a deeper plot at work here but that offence is surely an act of pure cruelty. [Hearty]

>”Sir Vancewell. You will surrender your weapon. You will accompany me to Grendale. You will answer for what you have done in the eyes of God and Man, so help me Almighty.” You intend to apprehend this criminal rather than mete out justice here and see the Lord of Grendale sit in judgement. If his lordship is a man of virtue and faith he will see justice done. In deferring to the Lord’s judgement you forfeit your right to trial by combat unless Sir Vancewell demands it. It does not prevent you from goading the man into attacking you at a later time. [Idealist]

Most of these consequences apply only if others come to learn of what happens here. It is entirely possible to cut him down here and now and never speak of it again.
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>>3062665
>>”Enough. Die as you lived, like a dog.” Ride the man down, give him no opportunity to reach his horse. You’ll have an overwhelming advantage in combat, but this is legally unsound. He is not defenceless, so this is not in breach of your vow. This man has not acted like a knight or man of noble bearing, so you shall not treat him as one. [Haughty]
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>>3062665
>”Enough. Die as you lived, like a dog.” Ride the man down, give him no opportunity to reach his horse. You’ll have an overwhelming advantage in combat, but this is legally unsound. He is not defenceless, so this is not in breach of your vow. This man has not acted like a knight or man of noble bearing, so you shall not treat him as one. [Haughty]

I'm all for letting our blood run hot and kill this guy here and now without due process.

I mean consider the brutality and cruelty of his crime ot should run hot in our blood if we have any sense of decency
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>>3062665
Forgotten, on a scale of 1 to genocide, how justifiable is this kind of summary execution if someone were to ever find out?
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>>3062665
>”Enough. Die as you lived, like a dog.” Ride the man down, give him no opportunity to reach his horse. You’ll have an overwhelming advantage in combat, but this is legally unsound. He is not defenceless, so this is not in breach of your vow. This man has not acted like a knight or man of noble bearing, so you shall not treat him as one. [Haughty]
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>>3062679
It's completely justifiable if we do a trial by combat.
>”Sir Vancewell. You will surrender your weapon. You will accompany me to Grendale. You will answer for what you have done in the eyes of God and Man, so help me Almighty.” You intend to apprehend this criminal rather than mete out justice here and see the Lord of Grendale sit in judgement. If his lordship is a man of virtue and faith he will see justice done. In deferring to the Lord’s judgement you forfeit your right to trial by combat unless Sir Vancewell demands it. It does not prevent you from goading the man into attacking you at a later time. [Idealist]
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>>3062679
Assuming your version of events was accepted by all, you would legally be in the clear for a Law of Adam trial by combat challenge legally questionable in self-defence and illegal for an outright attack.

Of course, if anyone doesn't like it you can tell them to try you in the ring themselves depending on the accuser.
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>>3062665
>>"You revolting, wretched worm. You are no knight. What pox-ridden mule did your mother bed to sire such a craven killer?" If you goad the man into attacking you then you may declare self-defence and lay claim to his horse and arms, as it was during the War of Borders. However, if word were to get out, it be a legal quandary which would almost certainly result in a feud between your two Houses. [Haughty]

This has all the benefits of the first option and some. Also, if he doesn't respond, we can always still go with the other options. Any of the other choices have none of the advantages and eliminate all other choices.
This option has the most flexibility in regards to how we respond to his response.
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>>3062665
>Enough. Die as you lived, like a dog.” Ride the man down, give him no opportunity to reach his horse. You’ll have an overwhelming advantage in combat, but this is legally unsound. He is not defenceless, so this is not in breach of your vow. This man has not acted like a knight or man of noble bearing, so you shall not treat him as one. [Haughty]
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>>3062689
O yes I got that part, but what I'm wondering is, is it the off with his head kind of illegal or more the "Hmm yes I see your point" kind of illegal?
And it gos without saying that he will have attacked us first, a shame there are no wiitnesses to corroborate this
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>>3062691
everyone seems hellbent on murder. If we are going to kill him outright then we should at least go with this anon.
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>>3062696
If we go with this option, we can still kill him. We'll just also get his stuff.
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>>3062701
Well couldn't we take his stuff anyway? I'm sure it's a path of thorns choice though
although...is it any penalty to our honor if Mikail took his stuff?
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>>3062703
We wouldn't be taking his stuff legally. If Mikail stole his stuff, it would still look bad on us because he's our squire and we're responsible for training him into being an honorable knight.
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>>3062691
Supporting.
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>>3062694
It would be the 'cop gunning down criminal before they drew a weapon' illegal. Lying about the circumstances may lock out the 'speak only truth' vow if you outright lie rather than refrain from speaking of it. The advantage here compared to insulting him is that any vendetta would be against you rather than your House.

Inciting him to attack is more justifiable, and you legally have a claim to his arms and armour, but politically it is tricky given that no one wants a return to the free-for-all attitude behind the War of Borders.
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>>3062665
>"Sir Vancewell of House Vancewell, sworn vassal of Duke Montbrun, sworn Vavasour and Ally to His Majesty the King. I denounce and condemn thee. I name thee murderer and demand Trial by Combat by the Law of Adam." Your attack of this man will be unquestionably legal. There are rules though, you will have to dismount and Mikail may not assist you. It is possible that your account will come into doubt as Mikail is a mere commoner witness. Swearing a sacred oath that you are speaking the truth should suffice. Should you lose, he may not be challenged or tried again for this crime. [Idealist]
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Also, to all voters, keep in mind that your only witness is a lowborn squire. Even if you do everything completely by the book it is possible you will be challenged.
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>”Enough. Die as you lived, like a dog.” Ride the man down, give him no opportunity to reach his horse. You’ll have an overwhelming advantage in combat, but this is legally unsound. He is not defenceless, so this is not in breach of your vow. This man has not acted like a knight or man of noble bearing, so you shall not treat him as one. [Haughty]

Interesting choice! I love that anons are voting for Emile’s temper to get the better of him, even if this is partially motivated by the strong mechanical bonus.

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(1) Combat Stance
>Cautious - Double AV (Max 80), Total unsaved damage to Foe is halved (Rounding up)
>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.
>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled.

(2) Lethality (vote indicates lethal, but is possible you are just being very ungentlemanly in your arrest)
>Lethal. You are not one for half measures and will not hold back. If the man yields before the final blow you may spare him. Perhaps. [Normal Damage]
>Non-Lethal. You intend to take this man alive, either to question him or apprehend him for a proper trial later. [Halve Damage]
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>>3062665
>"Sir Vancewell of House Vancewell, sworn vassal of Duke Montbrun, sworn Vavasour and Ally to His Majesty the King. I denounce and condemn thee. I name thee murderer and demand Trial by Combat by the Law of Adam." Your attack of this man will be unquestionably legal. There are rules though, you will have to dismount and Mikail may not assist you. It is possible that your account will come into doubt as Mikail is a mere commoner witness. Swearing a sacred oath that you are speaking the truth should suffice. Should you lose, he may not be challenged or tried again for this crime. [Idealist]

>>3062710
A lot of people don't seem to know this, but inciting someone to attack you on the intention of killing them is considered planned murder in many countries. It's hilarious how many retards provoked someone into attacking them so they could kill them, then tried to claim it was self-defense and were surprised when it didn't work. An example of this is when a bunch of retards posted on the internet about how they were going to a BLM rally while carrying guns, then try to provoke BLM members into attacking them first so they could kill them and claim self defense. The police found out about their posts and they ended up in jail.
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>>3062737
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
>Lethal. You are not one for half measures and will not hold back. If the man yields before the final blow you may spare him. Perhaps. [Normal Damage]
Against a fellow knight, we should press our advantage. Overconfidence has killed us before and this time, Justice is on our side.
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>>3062737

>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
>Lethal. You are not one for half measures and will not hold back. If the man yields before the final blow you may spare him. Perhaps. [Normal Damage]
I understand why we are pissed he is a twister of words and their is no truth in him
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>>3062741
I understand your point, this is a legal exception because offering insult to a knight and being answered with steel is a perfectly valid resolution under Canton laws. Generally this is to first blood or yielding, but it -has- been used in the past as an outright license to murder. A tumultuous Court can be a literal battlefield in less stable times.

I certainly am not under the impression that this a legal loophole in modern times.
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>>3062737
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
>Non-Lethal. You intend to take this man alive, either to question him or apprehend him for a proper trial later. [Halve Damage]
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>>3062745
Also note, a Duke or Royal can decree such instances as punishable by death. Generally speaking, unless you have their blessing or something else at work, it is much trickier to get someone in a ring with you without a valid cause beyond calling them a wanker.
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>>3062745
Oh, I wasn't speaking about Canton laws and your world so don't worry. I was talking about laws in modern countries and how this kind of tactic won't work at all irl and would be considerd planned murder.
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>>3062754
Cool. See you at the next BLM rally?
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inb4 we become knight dread, bain of criminals and oath breakers everywhere
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>>3062755
I don't live in America so i don't think so.
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>>3062658
>I am close friends with the Crown Prince and His Excellency Montbrun.
This is really bad news if it's true. We should hand him to the Romani Duchess or some other powerful noble we can trust for a proper trial. That way, the vendetta would be on the powerful noble and not us..
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>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
>Lethal. You are not one for half measures and will not hold back. If the man yields before the final blow you may spare him. Perhaps. [Normal Damage]

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Sir Emile Andrei, Young Knight of Romaine: Healthy
Mikail of Andryski, Squire to Sir Andrei: Healthy
>Combat = +65DC [Healthy +5DC, Strong +5DC, Castle-forged Arming Sword +5DC, Breastplate and Helm +10DC, Mikail +5DC, Mounted +10DC, Charge +15DC, Blademaster +10DC]
>Armour Value = 45AV [Breastplate and Helm +20AV, Heater Shield +20AV, Guardian +5AV]
>Combat Re-Rolls = 0

VS

Sir Hast Vancewell, Knight of Montbrun: Healthy
>Combat = +25DC [Healthy +5DC, Quick +5DC, Castle-forged Morningstar +0DC, Breastplate and Helm +10DC, He Who Fights Monsters(Humans) +10DC]
>Armour Value = 40AV [Breastplate and Helm +20AV, Heater Shield +20AV]
>Combat Re-Rolls = 0

Crit-fail = Suffer a mighty blow (3 degrees of damage sustained AND dismounted/disarmed)
0 Success = Suffer a solid blow (2 degrees of damage sustained)
1 Success = Exchange glancing blows (1 degree of damage inflicted and sustained)
2 Success = Inflict a solid blow (2 degrees of damage inflicted)
3 Success = Inflict a mighty blow (3 degrees of damage inflicted)
Crit-pass = Inflict a killing blow (what it says on the tin)

Doubles Pass = +1 damage ignores opponent AV or Dismounted/Disarmed penalty
Doubles Fail = Dismounted and/or Disarmed penalty


>Personal Combat 90DC
>3 rolls of 1d100

>Hannibal Destrier 33DC
>1 roll of 1d100

You are no knight!
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Rolled 6 (1d100)

>>3062777
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Rolled 55 (1d100)

>>3062777
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Rolled 19 (1d100)

>>3062777
oh dear oh dear
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Will someone do the final roll already? How long do we have to wait?
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>>3062778
>>3062779
>>3062780
>3 Success

Right indeed makes Might.

>Vancewell armour save
>40AV
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>>3062777
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>>3062781
Oh shit, I forgot about Hannibal. Yes, please someone make that final roll. I'll accept it from those who have already rolled.
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Rolled 24 (1d100)

>>3062786
Here
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>>3062787
wew he passed it
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Rolled 1 (1d100)

>>3062787
Finally our expensive Destrier does something.
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>>3062789
You jinxed it.
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Now this is some proper righteous fur-

>>3062789
W-what's this?
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>>3062789
Aw hell naw.

Guys, crit armour pass means all damage that round is ignored.
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>>3062794
>all
fucking hell
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>>3062794
Even the double pass that ignores AV? >>3062779
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>>3062794
Would be hilarious if we get BTFO and Vancewell manages to escape and inform both the Crown Prince and Duke.
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>>3062798
>tfw he only had to roll av 3 times
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>>3062798
This. The 55 should bypass the AV
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>>3062802
>>3062806
>>3062798

Good catch, so this wasn't a total loss. Keep in mind this works against you in the future too though.
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Do IRL armor piercing weapons ignore or reduce armour saves? Like misericordes or crossbows?
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Btw guys, as veterans of BCQ are no doubt aware, I sometimes stuff up the application of my own rudimentary system. Don't hesitate to call out what I miss as you have done here.

>>3062808
Yes, for example a War Lance on the charge reduces AV by 20 (War Lance + Smite Evil = Bad time for the other guy). While a spear adds no DC but does add some AV due to the extended reach.
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>>3062810
We should get a War Lance ASAP. Makes no sense for a mounted knight not to have one.
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>>3062810
Can you give some more examples of anti-armor weapons we could use? Is it strictly a mechanics thing or would armor-piercing weapons IRL do the same here?
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>>3062810
>spear adds no dc but av
shouldn't a spear have the dc but not av cause it dosn't have the punch of a lance
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>>3062813
most effective thing to do to armour is crush it. Maces or hammers
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>>3062815
I think forgotten is saying it would give us an AV boost due to range.
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>>3062817
Most medieval battles between armored knights ended in a grapple with edged weapons for piercing weak points.
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>>3062817
Generally I give maces and the like damage bonuses rather than an AV reduction, but some have both.

>>3062820
Correct, spears boost the wielders AV.
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>Foe Crit-passed Armour Value! (All Armour Saves Passed)
>+1 Damage from Double Pass, No AV Save
>+1 Damage from Belligerent Combat Stance
If not for the crit, Vancewell would be very dead.

”Perhaps we can come to some arrangement..” Vancewell says slyly, completely misreading your stony silence as interest in his offer.

”Enough.” You snap, silencing the cur mid-bribe. This worm sickens you, he is everything knighthood deplores. And he thinks he can buy you? The veins in your temple pulse as rage overwhelms you. You slam down your visor and draw your sword. ”Die as you lived, like a dog!”

You spur Hannibal forward into a charge, the destrier snorting in fury similar to your own.

”I have very powerful allies!” The man shouts in a panic as you bear down on him, hastening to bring up his shield and ready his mace. Your blade is perfectly poised to take the criminal’s head off at the neck but he dives aside at the last moment, his quick reflexes saving him from being flattened under the ironshod hooves.

You wheel around immediately, bringing your blade up for another swing and Hannibal neighs ferociously and attempts to grind the crouched Sir Vancewell into the dirt. He’s clearly fallen awkwardly, favouring one leg as he attempts to get up and escape your zealous attack.

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Combat Stance
>Cautious - Double AV (Max 80), Total unsaved damage to Foe is halved (Rounding up)
>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.
>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled.
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>>3062823
Shouldn't it reduce the DC of the opponent, making us harder to hit, rather than giving us more physical protection or is there something I'm missing here?
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>>3062828
>>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
Press our advantage and retain our momentum.
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>>3062828
>>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
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>>3062828
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
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>>3062828
>”I have very powerful allies!”
Shit, so it is true.
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>>3062829
i guess don't think of the AV save as just armour since it is not a reduction in damage but negates it completely. It's a combination with avoidance. So the DC is to hit and the AV is to avoid.
>>3062828
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
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>>3062828
>>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled.
SMITE THE WICKED
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>>3062829
You make a fair point, I wasn't considering reducing DC unless there was a successful net or slowing attack. Or something similar.

Knight's don't really use spears btw, but keep in mind your opponents may. Especially the lower classes.
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>>3062843
>especially the lower classes

Friggin peasants
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Sir Emile Andrei, Young Knight of Romaine: Healthy
Mikail of Andryski, Squire to Sir Andrei: Healthy
>Combat = +50DC [Healthy +5DC, Strong +5DC, Castle-forged Arming Sword +5DC, Breastplate and Helm +10DC, Mikail +5DC, Mounted +10DC, Blademaster +10DC]
>Armour Value = 45AV [Breastplate and Helm +20AV, Heater Shield +20AV, Guardian +5AV]
>Combat Re-Rolls = 0
VS
Sir Hast Vancewell, Knight of Montbrun: Injured
>Combat = +20DC [Injured(bruised knee) -5DC, Quick +5DC, Castle-forged Morningstar +0DC, Breastplate and Helm +10DC, He Who Fights Monsters +10DC]
>Armour Value = 40AV [Breastplate and Helm +20AV, Heater Shield +20AV]
>Combat Re-Rolls = 0

Crit-fail = Suffer a mighty blow (3 degrees of damage sustained AND dismounted/disarmed)
0 Success = Suffer a solid blow (2 degrees of damage sustained)
1 Success = Exchange glancing blows (1 degree of damage inflicted and sustained)
2 Success = Inflict a solid blow (2 degrees of damage inflicted)
3 Success = Inflict a mighty blow (3 degrees of damage inflicted)
Crit-pass = Inflict a killing blow (what it says on the tin)

Doubles Pass = +1 damage ignores opponent AV or Dismounted/Disarmed penalty
Doubles Fail = Dismounted and/or Disarmed penalty


>Personal Combat 80DC
>3 rolls of 1d100

>Hannibal Destrier 33DC
>1 roll of 1d100

Put this dog down.
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>>3062843
How strong is armour in this setting btw, are we going to feel like a walking tank completely impervious to commoner scum weapons unless they get a really lucky hit in a joint or wrestle us to the ground and poke us where we don't want to?
I ask because this is as far as I know how armour and especially full plate behaved in the middle ages, and i'd like to know whether I'm mistaken
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Rolled 30 (1d100)

>>3062847
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Rolled 10 (1d100)

>>3062847
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Rolled 99 (1d100)

>>3062847
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>>3062853
Too close. Too damn close.
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>>3062853
Time to put down the keyboard
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Rolled 43 (1d100)

>>3062853
You motherfucker

>>3062847
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Rolled 37 (1d100)

>>3062847
HANNIBAL
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our first double fail hmmm
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>>3062859
>>3062860
You both failed.
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>>3062861
> Pit trap opens up under us and Hannibal
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>>3062861
Looks like we are getting thrown from the horse
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>>3062848
Armour grants both an AV and DC bonus because you fight more confidently and aggressively without fear of damage, so yes against your average opponent of lesser breeding you're going to be a bit of a tank. There are limits of course, as you yourself have pointed out. For example, a war lance will go straight through armour most of the time.

There are plenty of monsters that are large and strong enough to crush men in full-plate to a pulp in an instant though.
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>>3062864
>>3062864
i think our sword will get stuck desu
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>>3062851
>>3062852
>>3062859


>>3062853
Fae Kissed Duchy bonus ain't so shit now, huh?
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>>3062868
whats the bonus?
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>>3062866
I'm fine with that
Can we expect long swords of armour sundering +2 or is that not how the setting works?
What I'm asking is how low (or high) magic is this setting
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>>3062870
99s are always successes
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Rolled 15, 24 = 39 (2d100)

>2 Success
>1 Double Fail (Disarmed or Dismounted)

>Sir Vancewell Armour
>AV 40

I need an anon to roll 1d100 for the Disarmed/Dismounted penalty.

1-33 = Disarmed (Shield)
34-66 = Disarmed (Sword)
67 =100 Dismounted
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Rolled 36 (1d100)

>>3062873
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>>3062872
wew
strong perk for a fogotten quest
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Rolled 21 (1d100)

>>3062873
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Rolled 65 (1d100)

>>3062873
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>>3062871
Not how the setting works unfortunately. Magic weaponry are basically lightsabers that cut through anything and make you sterile.

>>3062873
>the total is lower than the AV

Yikes.
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>>3062873
jesus these AV saves. We're going to get another knight killed.
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>>3062874
>>3062876
>>3062877
Oh, for fucks sake.
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>>3062881
MFW it's another fucking pit trap
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>>3062881
Third time's the charm innit
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>>3062884
We're still going with Montbrun
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>>3062885
I meant NOT going with Montbrun
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time to beat a man to death with our fists
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>>3062882
>>3062874
>disarmed (sword)
I vote to bash his face in with our shield
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>>3062881
Vancwell gave us a damn good fight even though he's a bastard. I will chose sparing him for a proper trial if we get a choice. Not to mention that we won't have to deal with his powerful friends later.
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>>3062888
>trips come with wisdom
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>>3062889
We actually would have won a trial by combat because we drew first blood
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>>3062889
>wont have to deal with his powerful friends later

>Implying they wont fuck us out of spite for messing with their guy

We should end him right here, no one else is around to bother us about it
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>>3062889
>good fight
Bruh, the fuck is REALLY lucky
>sparing him
He's a rapist and murderer
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>>3062892
Perhaps, but better safe than sorry.

>>3062894
Meh, we're technically a murderer if we kill him without concrete proof or admission for his crime.
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>>3062897
> Perhaps, but better safe than sorry.
Exactly... which is why he needs to die here and now
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>>3062891
We wouldn't have had all those bonuses in a fair trial by combat

>>3062894
He's a knight first of all, we don't just murder other knights like that if there are witnesses
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>>3062898
No, not exactly. Killing him now would make us on the Crown Prince and Duke's hit list. We should hand him to some powerful noble we can trust to deal with him.
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>>3062889
Nah fuck that he's a rapist and a murderer and doesn't have the guts too at least admit to it
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>>3062892
Would it be too much of a hassle to bring him to the nearest town?
If so, then it is dangerous to keep him with us. He might escape or kill us.
If not, then there's no disadvantage to sparing him. It's not like we get much from killing him. Sparing him let's us claim glory, especially if he is guilty of his charges.
It's not like we can confess to or brag about killing him without pissing off his powerful friends as well as anyone who cares about honor anyways.
Also, considering how distinctive knight armor can be, we might get recognized if we loot his armor.
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>>3062899
All three rolls in the first round would have still passed without the mounted and charge bonuses.
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>>3062901
Assuming what he said about his powerful friends is even true, and assuming anyone ever finds out we killed him. He's a murdering rapist
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>>3062904
Bringing him to a Baliff or lord allows him to escape justice by merit of his associations, better to kill him here and be done with it
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>>3062910
We'd have to keep quiet about it and hide the body
It would be kind of obvious he was killed by a passing knight, not brigands or beastfolk.
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>>3062909
That's irrelevant to my point though. He can be punished by a powerful noble who can stand the ire of his powerful allies, not us. I'm not suggesting we let him for his crimes.
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kill him and chuck his gear in the river and let body rot in the bushs
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>>3062915
He can still be found in the bushes
We should find a way where it's not obvious he was killed by someone as well-armed as we are
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>>3062915
Such an honourable knight you're making us out to be
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>>3062913
Butcher the body or hang it from a tree make it look like bandits or beastmen would probably pass a basic inspection

Don't take anything from his body that wont fit a motive, we can do better at covering his vicious half arsed attempt at a coverup
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>>3062916
well if we bash him to death with our shield it looks like bandits
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>0 Damage Inflicted
>Sword disarmed! (You draw your stiletto, Steel Blade +0DC. If this is disarmed you will suffer Unarmed -20DC).

The man be a murderer and a cur, but he is not unskilled and he fights with the desperation of the condemned. He closes the distances between you two, ensuring that you cannot bring Hannibal to bear without some awkwardness.

You bring your blade down. Once, twice. But both times Vancewell is saved by his armour. By pure fluke his brings up his mace into the hilt of your blade, sending it flying out of your hands. Your master-at-arms would be apoplectic with rage at your weak grip, though you flip out your dagger swiftly enough.

”Dress-wearing son of a whore!” Vancewell hisses, the shaft of his mace struggling to prevent you bearing your dagger down in his face. His eyes are wide open and frantic. ”Pit take you!”

”M’lord!” Mikail cries in alarm, hurrying towards the struggle.

You have the advantage here, your superior strength inexorably drawing the blade close to the man’s chin.

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(1) Quarter
>“So you’re not just good for killing defenceless old men. Yield, and I may yet spare you.” [Offer Quarter. Persuade Check, Halve Damage this round if unsuccessful]

>”You may not have lived like a man, Vancewell. But at least you’ll die like one.” [No Quarter]
Keep in mind he will claim you unlawfully assaulted him if brought to town. Unlikely to carry weight with the local lord, but still something to keep in mind.

(2) Combat Stance
>Cautious - Double AV (Max 80), Total unsaved damage to Foe is halved (Rounding up)
>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.
>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled.
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>>3062915
His body will be found out by someone that way and once it does, people will think we're lying to save our skin by saying he murdered people. It's really better for us to give him to a lord we know to be just so we can be assured he won't get away for his crimes.
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>>3062917
Dogs like him dont deserve to be treated with honour
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>>3062919
We'll need to move his weapons and armor like >>3062915 said. No self-respecting brigand or beastman would leave that just lying around. We should also take his supplies.
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>>3062921

>”You may not have lived like a man, Vancewell. But at least you’ll die like one.” [No Quarter]
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>>3062917
hey I'm not stealing his shit and I'm lnot letting him escape justice by getting his mates to save him
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>>3062894
This is correct, the man has been ridiculously lucky to survive thus far.

We also said the same thing about Craven.
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>>3062921
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.

>>3062921
>>“So you’re not just good for killing defenceless old men. Yield, and I may yet spare you.” [Offer Quarter. Persuade Check, Halve Damage this round if unsuccessful]
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>>3062925
Also, there's a risk of someone seeing us with knight armor strapped to our horse. It'd be obvious who killed him then.
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>>3062927
>>3062921
>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled

Goddangit why did my post go off half-cocked?
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>>3062921
>>“So you’re not just good for killing defenceless old men. Yield, and I may yet spare you.” [Offer Quarter. Persuade Check, Halve Damage this round if unsuccessful]
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
Too much bullshit to deal with if we kill him, now that we have the advantage.
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>>3062929
Seems to be a pattern here doesn't it?
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>>3062921
>>”You may not have lived like a man, Vancewell. But at least you’ll die like one.” [No Quarter]
>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.
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>>3062921
>”You may not have lived like a man, Vancewell. But at least you’ll die like one.” [No Quarter]
>>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
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>>3062921
>>“So you’re not just good for killing defenceless old men. Yield, and I may yet spare you.” [Offer Quarter. Persuade Check, Halve Damage this round if unsuccessful]

We're idealistic, and on the path of Adam last I checked
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>>3062939
We can always go the 'Lawful Paladin enraged by injustice committed' path
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>>3062939
Just because we choose a path does not mean we are locked into it.
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>>3062941
We already have, attacking him like that, and I think it's taking it too far
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>>3062929
Then stop rolling like a champ ajd have something be statistical, dammit!
It took us building a melee monster just to skew tye already typically favorable odds into something that USUALLY ACTUALLY WORKED
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>>3062931
Yeah, I don't really think we should risk our reputation (not to mention getting the ire of Vancewell's powerful allies) just so we can kill him ourselves. people will not believe us one bit if we say that he was murderer.
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>>3062947
We haven't reached maximum rage levels yet
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>>3062949
See the lynchpin of that relies on people FINDING OUT and that only happens if we tell people
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I need a tie-breaker for offering quarter.

>Offer Quarter
>No Quarter

>DC 50

1d100, first anon to roll under gets their choice picked.
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>>3062950
And thank god, it's not like we even gave the guy a chance to explain what happened yet
Also I must remind you that we're a very haughty character and this is just peasants getting murdered and allegedly raped so far
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>>3062955
No quarter
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Rolled 41 (1d100)

>>3062955
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>>3062956
I think outrage is perfectly acceptable, given that it besmirches the entire knighthood.
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Rolled 70 (1d100)

>>3062953
Exactly. We can't take anything from him because someone might recognize his belongings
>>3062955
no quarter
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Rolled 4 (1d100)

>>3062955
Fucked up my roll. Oh well
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>>3062959
Offer quarter.

>>3062953
Nah, better safe than sorry.
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>>3062953
The chance of people finding out is very high
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>>3062965
I really don't want to deal with his friends for fuck sake
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>>3062960
Oh yeah for sure, just wanted people not to lose track of who we are
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>>3062967
That's exactly why i'm saying we give him to a powerful lord that can cover us.
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>>3062969
I don't think that's happening, this is one instance in which we are outraged that a knight would rape and murder a family in cold blood after being invited in. I think it's understandable that he'd run the guy down
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>>3062956
A knights privilege's come from his protections of the peasants if anything a haughty character would be angry because it's dereliction of one's station
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>>3062966
How? we are in the middle of practically nowhere, off the beaten path and with a little (litreal) hatchet work and taking if not hiding or destroying his equipment we can make this out to be banditry or a beast man attack
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if we don't kill him here he will get away with it
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I wonder if one day we could play a character that's a total immoral cunt
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>>3062959
>>3062965
>>3062972

On your head be it.

>Persuasion [Equal Social Standing / Reasonable] (likely unreasonable prior to combat)
>60DC
>Clear Advantage +20DC (injured, dismounted etc)
>80DC

0 = He takes advantage of your offer with an underhanded tactic. Foe +1 Combat Re-Roll
1 = Vancewell refuses, the struggle goes on.
2 = Vancewell yields, sullen and hateful of you.
3 = Vancewell yields, and offers some useful information in his desperate bids at bargaining.


>DC80

3 rolls of 1d100.

Yield.
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Rolled 59 (1d100)

>>3062979
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>>3062978
that's how you get vancewell quest
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Rolled 63 (1d100)

>>3062979
This is going to suck
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>>3062978
Already have a few possibilities lined up in BCQ 2230AD. Though I guess that does have overall loyalty to the company as a moral grounding of some sort, even if it's not to the same selfless extent as others.
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Rolled 49 (1d100)

>>3062979
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>>3062977
We can hand him to a just lord we can trust. It's really better than risking being found out of killing him with no evidence that he was a murderer
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>>3062985
we will get dragged through the courts and found guilty of assault and it will be on your head
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>>3062986
It's better than the alternative (Being found of murder) and we can have the lord we hand him to cover for us.
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>>3062981
>>3062978
see I did offer a compromise between totally Immoral and Good guy prone to good deed in the form of Shekel Knight but it didn't take

>Be Pascae knight working with merchants for gold
>Know overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer as it got our master killed and that chivalry isn't all that great
>Eventually begin to belive in Chivilary and shit due to the actions of others and their motives genuinely making the world a better place

If Emile dies I'll put it up again but sadly I dont think it will take.
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>>3062994
I'll vote for it after we eventually die to level 99 assassins sent by Vancewell's friends
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>>3062994
The shekel knight was quite a good concept. Shame I couldn't vote.
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>Get back from a nice Thanksgiving Dinner
>See this

If he walks due to some bullshit I'm going to be pissed. I'd make him dig the graves and then hang him right then and there, but I doubt that is going to happen.
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quarter... probably swedes the lot of you
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>>3063007
Let's make sure not to hand him to anyone that might be close to his allies (The Montbrun Duke and the Crown Prince). Let's hand him to a Stannis-tier lord that will punish him with zero prejudice.
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>>3063007
Or we can just hang him after he surrenders, bandits like him deserve the rope.
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>>3063015
Thats kind of out of our hands unless we hand him over to people who dont care about Justice or powerful would be friends like the Bluejays or something.

>>3063007
good, good let the hate flow through you and Inspire character development for poor Emile

>>3062998
>>3063004
thanks for the support if we do have another poor sod die due to shennanigans I'll post shekel knight again.
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>>3063017
>>3063021
Well good luck dealing with it. I need to sleep this food off.
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>>3063021
Possibly, but as long we hand him to someone hostile to his allies, then he will be punished. Would a Haughty noble like Emile deal with the Bluejays?
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Last post for the night, I may not be able to run over the weekend either aside from the once-a-day posts which will usually be around 11PM to 1AM AEST when I get back from the office. inb4 wagecuck

“So you’re not just good for killing defenceless old men.” You speak without exertion, your impressive strength drawing the dagger further and further towards Sir Vancewell’s eye slit. At this range you can see his panicked eyes darting between you and the dagger he holds at bay with his mace handle. ”Yield, and I may yet spare you.”

”I yield! I yield!” The man yelps, beads of sweat dripping down his noses as Mikail disarms him and you keep the dagger at his eye.

”I don’t know what that Queensman offered you, but I can assure you it’s not worth it.” Vancewell stammers as Mikail binds his hands in front of him, tying him to the back ”Those idiots can’t conjure up a new heir, it’s only a matter of time. Those who stand with the Prince will get fat and rich, those against him will hang. I’m a realist, that’s all.”

”Rape and murder of the innocent come with realism? Then the Carthagi philosophers must have had it all wrong.” You are carefully dismissive with your tone, wondering which Queensman he means. It appears that he is, for some reason, under the impression that you’re acting on the Queen’s behest. You have no idea why that is, but you do not disabuse him of the notion in the hope that he divulges more.

”They were peasants! Hog-bedding, mud-slinging peasants! What do they matter?” Unfortunately, that’s the last of the useful information the felon provides. The rest is just muttered threats, extravagant promises and other things you won’t repeat in polite company.

”I’ve heard enough.” You pull the man to his feet, seeing that Mikail has secured Vancewell’s courser.

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(1) Deal with the prisoner Keep in mind that even medieval times had rules on dealing with nobleborn prisoners

>”If thy tongue offends thee, cut it out.” Quoting the Book of Brothers, you take quite a literal interpretation of it here. You’ve already assaulted the man, may as well exact some further rough justice before taking him in alive. [Haughty]

>”Ransom and Quarter are for Knights. You are no Knight.” You remove Vancewell’s head with a single swipe of your blade. He is worth far more trouble alive than he is dead. The Almighty will know that the spirit of Justice, if not the form, was followed here. [Idealist]

>”Mikail, gag him.” You’ll take this man to Grenoble to be judged by Lord Norveski. As you are apprehending a suspect in a grave crime, your assault will not be punished. You are uncertain whether the Lord will see justice done, or whether there is anything you can do to ensure it is so. [Hearty]

(2) >What do you do upon arriving at Grenoble?
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>>3063026
>>”If thy tongue offends thee, cut it out.” Quoting the Book of Brothers, you take quite a literal interpretation of it here. You’ve already assaulted the man, may as well exact some further rough justice before taking him in alive. [Haughty]
He won't be able to say we attacked him first. This covers us.
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>>3063026
>>”Ransom and Quarter are for Knights. You are no Knight.” You remove Vancewell’s head with a single swipe of your blade. He is worth far more trouble alive than he is dead. The Almighty will know that the spirit of Justice, if not the form, was followed here. [Idealist]
I'm surprised this was offered for Idealist.
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>>3063026
>>”Ransom and Quarter are for Knights. You are no Knight.” You remove Vancewell’s head with a single swipe of your blade. He is worth far more trouble alive than he is dead. The Almighty will know that the spirit of Justice, if not the form, was followed here. [Idealist]

''Here hangs Sir Vancewell a Brigand & Rapist''-sign attached to his hung corpse
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>>3063030
I'm assuming that this is done on the belief that Vancewell will otherwise escape justice in a public trial.

>>3063027
I would certainly not suggest this as a means of avoiding legal repercussions. You don't 'accidentally' cut out someone's tongue in the middle of combat.
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>>3063027
and if he can write? or otherwise communicate with people?
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>>3063026
>>”Mikail, gag him.” You’ll take this man to Grenoble to be judged by Lord Norveski. As you are apprehending a suspect in a grave crime, your assault will not be punished. You are uncertain whether the Lord will see justice done, or whether there is anything you can do to ensure it is so. [Hearty]


Fuck in, in for a penny in for a pound. We can't exactly kill him now that we've given him quarter can we?That's not knightly at all.

(2) >What do you do upon arriving at Grenoble?
Present him to the Lord and list his crimes and the evidence we have, all that he has said and done, everything we saw.
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>>3063027
Are we going to cut off his hands too?

>>”Mikail, gag him.” You’ll take this man to Grenoble to be judged by Lord Norveski. As you are apprehending a suspect in a grave crime, your assault will not be punished. You are uncertain whether the Lord will see justice done, or whether there is anything you can do to ensure it is so. [Hearty]
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i want another vote after we sweet-talk him, a stealth kill vote
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>>3063036
>>3063026
>>3063039
Now that I read the Hearty choice, it doesn't matter whether we attacked him first or not since he was a suspect.

Changing my vote from Haughty to:
”Mikail, gag him.” You’ll take this man to Grenoble to be judged by Lord Norveski. As you are apprehending a suspect in a grave crime, your assault will not be punished. You are uncertain whether the Lord will see justice done, or whether there is anything you can do to ensure it is so. [Hearty]

Also, doesn't the Idealist option override our choice before? We already chose to spare him.
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>>3063026
>>”Mikail, gag him.” You’ll take this man to Grenoble to be judged by Lord Norveski. As you are apprehending a suspect in a grave crime, your assault will not be punished. You are uncertain whether the Lord will see justice done, or whether there is anything you can do to ensure it is so. [Hearty]
He'll probably get let loose and send someone after us. Should make for good fun.
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>>3063026
>”Ransom and Quarter are for Knights. You are no Knight.” You remove Vancewell’s head with a single swipe of your blade. He is worth far more trouble alive than he is dead. The Almighty will know that the spirit of Justice, if not the form, was followed here. [Idealist]
>>”Mi
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>>3063042
>”Mikail, gag him.” You’ll take this man to Grenoble to be judged by Lord Norveski. As you are apprehending a suspect in a grave crime, your assault will not be punished. You are uncertain whether the Lord will see justice done, or whether there is anything you can do to ensure it is so. [Hearty]
Forgot to put an arrow to make it greentext
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>>3063042
>Also, doesn't the Idealist option override our choice before? We already chose to spare him.

The vote was whether to allow him to yield. Most people would assume this is the same thing, of course.
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Allowing someone to yield and then killing them is some outright Thorns path shit without a doubt
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>>3063051
Idealistic Thorns?
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>>3063051
idk i think you can make a case for Path of Cain.
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>>3063049
So, wouldn't we be breaking our vow now that we promised him quarter and he's defenseless? Giving quarter and sparing is the same thing. There is no such thing giving quarter and then killing them without breaking our word. It seems to be grasping at straws and playing word games to allow a revote because the result was divided.
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>>3063060
oh shit. You're right he's disarmed now, we can't kill him without breaking our vow.
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>>3063026
>Mikail, gag him
I don't want to have to deal with the fun LEGAL REPERCUSSIONS of cutting this man's tongue out or killing him, and it's not exactly chivalrous to do so after we already gave him quarter.
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>>3063060 >>3063063
Place our stiletto dagger in his mouth and he’s good to go.
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>>3063026
>”Mikail, gag him.” You’ll take this man to Grenoble to be judged by Lord Norveski. As you are apprehending a suspect in a grave crime, your assault will not be punished. You are uncertain whether the Lord will see justice done, or whether there is anything you can do to ensure it is so. [Hearty]
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>>3063064
replying to my own post to show that i'm not the most dreaded of all creatures in Canton - the shapeshifting Samefag.
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>>3063071
>inb4 shapeshifts next post.

>>3063026
>>3063038 +1
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>>3063063
we haven't taken a vow yet
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>>3063082
I thought there was a vote for one.
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>>3063082
>https://pastebin.com/iBg32ZQw
it's part of our knights code to get the blademaster perk
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>>3063082
You actually have taken that relevant vow, but other vows may still be barred from unlocking if broken.
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>>3063087
>You actually have taken that relevant vow
Then i'm staying with the Hearty choice.
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I should probably make this clear, I'm not going to spell it out for each option whether it is in breach of a vow or not. That is up to you to determine, including write-ins.
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>>3063091
>Murderous anons break every vow immediately after making them
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>>3063094
just as planned
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>>3063094
That's certainly one way to rack up Thorn points.
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>>3063091
>That is up to you to determine
Then what's the point of taking the vows if we could just determine ourselves that we aren't breaking them no matter what we do? Seems to make the entire system pointless.
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>>3063094
Just like New Years resolutions.
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>>3063097
We get to determine whether a decision would break one of our vows
Forgotten gets to determine how to fuck us in the arse after we fail to determine that a certain decision broke one of our vows
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>>3063104
If that's how it is, then fine.
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>>3063087
my mistake then, not that im against breaking the vow in this instance.
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Seriously though, the battle rolls were ridiculous. We almost got our ass handed to us and came too close to dying again. Dice gods need to stop tormenting us.
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>>3063026
>Ransom and Quarter are for Knights. You are no Knight.” You remove Vancewell’s head with a single swipe of your blade. He is worth far more trouble alive than he is dead. The Almighty will know that the spirit of Justice, if not the form, was followed here. [Idealist]

He’s too well connected, he’ll escape the local lord’s justice and will have a vendetta against us.
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>>3063026
Is Lord Norveski a Kingsman or a Queensman?
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>>3063154
Wasn't he one of the character gens?
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>>3063026
Going with hearty. Killing him will break our vow
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>>3063162
Yes, I think so.
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>>3063169
I thought so thanks
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>>3063171
No problem
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>>3063026
>>”Mikail, gag him.” You’ll take this man to Grenoble to be judged by Lord Norveski. As you are apprehending a suspect in a grave crime, your assault will not be punished. You are uncertain whether the Lord will see justice done, or whether there is anything you can do to ensure it is so. [Hearty]
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> not goading the ass into suicide-by-knight
> offering quarter
I'm disappointed, Anon.

>>3063026
>”Mikail, gag him.” You’ll take this man to Grenoble to be judged by Lord Norveski. As you are apprehending a suspect in a grave crime, your assault will not be punished. You are uncertain whether the Lord will see justice done, or whether there is anything you can do to ensure it is so. [Hearty]

(2) >What do you do upon arriving at Grenoble?
> Present Vancewell to the local lord (still gagged, if possible) and report in painstakingly clear details what he had done to the peasants, how he lied to avoid justice and his own admission of guilt once he was cornered.
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>>3063026
>>>”Mikail, gag him.” You’ll take this man to Grenoble to be judged by Lord Norveski. As you are apprehending a suspect in a grave crime, your assault will not be punished. You are uncertain whether the Lord will see justice done, or whether there is anything you can do to ensure it is so. [Hearty]

>We will head to the local lord, and bring this man to be judged.
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>>3062868
It's still stupid and I've yet to be convinced that 99s are gonna fall like mana from heaven.

>>3063026
>”Mikail, gag him.” You’ll take this man to Grenoble to be judged by Lord Norveski. As you are apprehending a suspect in a grave crime, your assault will not be punished. You are uncertain whether the Lord will see justice done, or whether there is anything you can do to ensure it is so. [Hearty]
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(have we already decided about that pilgrimage thing? i think a good one would be to try going to that lighthouse in the shores of peace in the pastebin, maybe watch vigil over the lighthouse for a short period.)
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(also im curious, is path of thorns named for anything special?)
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>>3063026
>>”Mikail, gag him.” You’ll take this man to Grenoble to be judged by Lord Norveski. As you are apprehending a suspect in a grave crime, your assault will not be punished. You are uncertain whether the Lord will see justice done, or whether there is anything you can do to ensure it is so. [Hearty]

>What do you do upon arriving at Grenoble?

Visibly bring him in with his colours showing, so that all the peasantry can see that justice is being done.

I'm sure that family that was murdered had friends and whatnot in the community, and it will politicize the issue nicely in a way to bring their sentiment into play.
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>>3063026
I'd personally take him back to the farm and make him dig before going back to Grenoble
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>>3063026
I almost forgot!

Constantly preach to him about the duties of a knight to be a paragon of virtue as well as ability. Otherwise they're merely a monster in a shiny metal suit.
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>>3063026
>”Mikail, gag him.” You’ll take this man to Grenoble to be judged by Lord Norveski. As you are apprehending a suspect in a grave crime, your assault will not be punished. You are uncertain whether the Lord will see justice done, or whether there is anything you can do to ensure it is so. [Hearty]
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>>3063026
>>”Ransom and Quarter are for Knights. You are no Knight.” You remove Vancewell’s head with a single swipe of your blade. He is worth far more trouble alive than he is dead. The Almighty will know that the spirit of Justice, if not the form, was followed here. [Idealist]
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>Take Sir Vancewell to Grenoble, unharmed.

Vote is closed. I won't be able update today or tomorrow but we will progress this a little the day after that or at least get back into our once-a-day updates.

Things are very busy for me at the moment, I apologise for lapses in my schedule leading up to the end of the year.
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Although the vote is closed, I'd like to throw in my two cents.
Very likely this particular nobleman will not face justice over the rape and murder of several peasants as judges and other Lord's likely see peasants the same way that he does (and Emile to some extent). However, when he does get off Scot free, I think we should murder him before he leaves the city and he's time to contact his powerful friends lest he sends assassins after us.
We tried the noble thing and we certainly did the right thing by bringing him to justice but the rules of this period mean that people often don't stand on equal footing. Realistically, if found guilty, hell be asked to pay some sort of fine as Blood Money to the local Lord for killing his property or, more realistically, hell be set free
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>>3065041
What if after the sentencing. Whatever may it be we challenge him to a duel. He did insult us as we were arresting him. He even insulted the queen, that’s a pretty grave mistake.
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>>3065041
Everyone and their dog will know it's us if he gets killed right after he is free. If the lord doesn't seem intent on punishing him, then we should demand a trial by combat.
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>>3065335
I can agree with that
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>>3065335
>>3065305
I support both of these ideas, if the Lord does not bring justice then we will.
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Good to see we're going all in for the lawful good to the point of excessive

I just hope we grow from this as a character
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Idk who recommended battle bros but I picked it up and have been playing for 3 solid days. The old lady isn't amused
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>>3067882
>battle brothers

Good fucking shit
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>>3067882
Watch out for those skelly shieldwalls.
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>>3067896
At first glance, I thought spear walls were going to be easy mode. They have shown me the error of my ways.
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+1 Path of Cain

Gained MARK OF CAIN trait

+5DC to Combat when less than Healthy


My interpretation is that Emile’s sudden attack shows that he has a bit of a temper, but he restrained himself from going down the Path of Thorns in an extrajudicial slaying.

Some hours have passed between your arrival at the crime scene and the pursuit, the sun has risen high by the time you return to the devastated abode. You suppose Lord Norveski’s patrols are further afield than the homesteads on his doorstep, but you had assumed that someone had at last noticed the smoke and sent word.

You are proven correct, several men-at-arms have gathered at the dwelling on your return. They bear the Rampant Black Eagle on Burgundy Saltire of Norveski. The bodies of the slain are lined up outside the house covered in rough cloth and the men themselves are going over the property to look for tracks or, no less likely, anything useful to loot. Some pause in their rummaging, noticing you have an armoured man bound and gagged being led by your horses saddle.

”Ware the road, traveller.” Their sergeant-at-arms, a dour looking fellow, holds up a hand as you approach. He seems suspicious of you and your prisoner, but speaks respectfully enough. ”Headed to Grenoble, sir? Be careful, brigands or something fouler are at work here.”

”Not brigands, sergeant, at least not of the common sort. I have the culprit here.” That immediately gets the mans interest, and several of the other men-at-arms of sharp hearing gather around. You lay out your account in brief, the evidence and what led you to suspect Sir Vancewell as well as brushing over your arrest of the man.

”Son of a beast-frakking whore… Er, pardon sir.” The man curses, clearly it would have been an easier day for him had beastfolk or some other menace been responsible. ”It adds up with what we found, I can attest to that. 3 sets of tracks, yours and his, then the weapon and such…”

The sergeant, a man by the name of Tuck, looks you up and down carefully. Finally, making some internal conclusion on his judgement of you, he nods sharply. ”Guess you’ll be wanting to bring this to his lordship then.”

”Indeed.”

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As you ride through the gates of Grenoble, escorted on either side by the Norveski Men-at-Arms, you are stared at by all who pass. The sight of an armoured knight such as Sir Vancewell being led bound and gagged is not a common one, the smallfolk gossip and whisper to each other animatedly as you ride pass. You maintain a cool expression yourself, you are in the right after all and the wild speculations of the common man do not concern you.

”Back straight, Mikail.” You murmur to your nervous squire. ”We have nought to fear, this man had to be seized and brought for judgement. We have only executed our duty as Almighty-fearing men of Romaine.”

”I ent gonna get in trouble for gagging a noble, am I m’lord?” Your squire stops slumping at least, though he still holds an uneasy expression.

”I will see that you do not. You acted only at my behest.” Your squire takes some comfort from your confidence, though he still has some concerns.

”I may have shoved him once or twice too.” The boy rubs the back of his neck awkwardly.”And I don’t think I had to make them bonds as tight as I did either…”

”Mikail. It’s fine. Easy now, we’re here.”

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Sergeant Tuck leads your group through the main castle gate, exchanging words with the guards and a fat well-dressed man sporting an expensive mink coat entirely too warm for the weather. You reckon the man to be the town Burgermeister, a very rich man by commoner standards. Certainly it would explain his weight and horrific fashion sense. Although you don’t hear what they say, the two men frequently look at you and your previous in hushed tones. The fat man gives you an appraising look before finally nodding, his double chin quivering as he sends off a runner within the castle.

As the two continue to talk, a young woman wearing a white habit of a holy sisters novitiate steps hurriedly out into the courtyard and approaches you as you dismount.

”Forgive me, Sir Knight, I am Sister Aditha of the Sisters of Compassion. I’m afraid that Lord Norveski is currently seeing to another matter at this time.” The nun seems quite flustered at her intermediary role. You’re uncertain, but you recall one of your sisters mentioning that the lack of a black or deep blue cowl indicates that she is not fully inducted into the sisterhood. While nuns in Romaine have more influence than the male priesthood, it is still rare for anyone of a rank lower than Sister Superior to be acting as a facilitator. ”I pray that you adhere to the virtue of patience in this delay. What matter do you bring to his attention?”

”This man is under my charge.” You say, gesturing towards. ”He is Sir Hast Vancewell, of the House Vancewell, vassals to Duke Montbrun. He is accused of the murder of three folk, a man and two women. He is also accused of rape, vandalism and resisting lawful arrest.”

”I… I see.” Sister Aditha pales at the lists of crimes. You see that the potential political ramifications of the accused are not lost on her either. ”I shall send word to Lord Norveski at once. In the meantime, I ask that you take your rest here.”

”As you say, sister.”

”And the prisoner shall be ungagged and given water, though his restraints may remain. I see that he is limping, I shall send for a healer to inspect the wound.” It is not a question, though the woman is careful to word the direction as politely as possible.

”Very well.” You reluctantly allow for the holy woman’s natural tendency towards mercy. This is not House Andrei after all. ”Though I shall gag him again should he say anything that causes offence.”

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>>3070486
I will explain the difference between Trial by Combat and Challenges more later, but I feel that some anons are conflating the two. If the accused is not a knight, only they can elect trial by combat (unless on appeal in the realms where appeal is even a thing). If the accused is a knight, any knight can demand a trial by combat once a prima facie case is established. So even if you chose trial by combat earlier and killed him, you would still have to justify to the local lord that there was enough evidence of their guilt to warrant trial (though not necessarily their guilty).

Challenges are purely personal grudges between knights and are not usually a lawful excuse for serious injury or killing. Without reliable witnesses, it is tantamount to murder.


[3/4] oops

Romaine is not Motte-Fallavon, where justice is decided swiftly and summarily for commoner and noble alike. It is unlikely that his Lordship will hear the trial today, but he will at least make a decision as to whether this is a baseless accusation that does not warrant a trial (even by combat). Your impression of , unless the man is completely out of touch with them.

As you await Lord Norveski you…

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>Speak to the Burgermeister. He and Sergeant Tuck seem to be close and the man is obviously influential with the running of the town. Though a mere commoner, it may help to have him on-side for this. [Hearty]

>Speak with the Nun. You’ll have to be delicate, but perhaps you can glean some inkling of Lord Norveski’s temperament and who he keeps counsel with. [Idealist]

>Flirt with the Nun. The novice-nun really is quite beautiful, and you see no harm in passing the time with some harmless flirtation. As a novitiate, she is not technically a sister yet. [Haughty]
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*impression of Sergeant-at-Arms Tuck leaves you thinking that there is at least enough to warrant a trial, unless his Lordship is out of touch or completely corrupt.
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>>3070531
>Speak with the Nun. You’ll have to be delicate, but perhaps you can glean some inkling of Lord Norveski’s temperament and who he keeps counsel with. [Idealist]
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>>3070531
>>Speak to the Burgermeister. He and Sergeant Tuck seem to be close and the man is obviously influential with the running of the town. Though a mere commoner, it may help to have him on-side for this. [Hearty]
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>>3070531
>>Speak to the Burgermeister. He and Sergeant Tuck seem to be close and the man is obviously influential with the running of the town. Though a mere commoner, it may help to have him on-side for this. [Hearty]
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>>3070531
>Speak with the Nun. You’ll have to be delicate, but perhaps you can glean some inkling of Lord Norveski’s temperament and who he keeps counsel with. [Idealist]
It seems weird that she was speaking for him and not someone of more influence. It seems her influence is not yet apparent. So let's see what we can learn.
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Vote remains open, I'll do my best to continue the daily updates but things are going to be a bit hectic this week.

Thread is archived here http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Sworn%20to%20Valour (votes please etc etc)
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>>3070531
>>Speak to the Burgermeister. He and Sergeant Tuck seem to be close and the man is obviously influential with the running of the town. Though a mere commoner, it may help to have him on-side for this. [Hearty]
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>>3070531
>>Speak to the Burgermeister. He and Sergeant Tuck seem to be close and the man is obviously influential with the running of the town. Though a mere commoner, it may help to have him on-side for this. [Hearty]
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>>3070531
>>>Speak to the Burgermeister. He and Sergeant Tuck seem to be close and the man is obviously influential with the running of the town. Though a mere commoner, it may help to have him on-side for this. [Hearty]
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>>3070531
>Speak to the Burgermeister. He and Sergeant Tuck seem to be close and the man is obviously influential with the running of the town. Though a mere commoner, it may help to have him on-side for this. [Hearty]


>I will explain the difference between Trial by Combat and Challenges more later, but I feel that some anons are conflating the two. If the accused is not a knight, only they can elect trial by combat (unless on appeal in the realms where appeal is even a thing). If the accused is a knight, any knight can demand a trial by combat once a prima facie case is established. So even if you chose trial by combat earlier and killed him, you would still have to justify to the local lord that there was enough evidence of their guilt to warrant trial (though not necessarily their guilty).

>Challenges are purely personal grudges between knights and are not usually a lawful excuse for serious injury or killing. Without reliable witnesses, it is tantamount to murder.


So we will have to get a Trial by Combat then. It's the only we can legally and lawfully fight him to the death without being accused of murder.
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>>3070991
Posting again so my vote isn't discarded for suspicion of samefagging.
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>>3070991
Except that the trials by combat are not usually to the death. He said before they were typically to first blood.
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>>3070998
Even then it will be preferable to Challenges where killing is considered murder no matter what. Our trial by combat doesn't have to be the usual thing.
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>>3071016
If first blood is a killing blow...
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>>3070991
The whole thing about challenges is having reliable witnesses which is frankly the easiest part of dealing with a challenge
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>>3071024
That's not happening. Vancewell isn't gonna accept a challenge unless he is surrounded by people who will testify if you murder him. A trial by combat allows us a fight to the death without legal fallout.
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>>3071053
excep as its been said before a Trial by combat is not a fight to the death unless you can actually kill someone on the first blow (mechanically unlikely)

a Trial by combat that results in death is not going to be without fallout legal or otherwise (emphasis on Otherwise)
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>>3071149
That being said, the whole point here is that it's a trial. It's not like we cut the guy, the lord says "Jolly good, justice is served" and off Vancewell goes. We beat him, he is guilty, he is (hopefully) put to death for his grievous crimes.

Just seems like everyone has lost focus here, we aren't the executioner, we had our chance to kill him, and then we had it again. We made a choice to bring him in and hopefully justice will be done. If he chooses trial by combat I'm all for taking up the sword against him but it doesn't matter too much if we kill him in the first blow or not.
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>>3071149
It doesn't matter either way. A challenge means nothing of whether he is guilty or not, not to mention Vancewell won't accept a challenge anyway. A trial by combat is the only way we can ensure he is punished without legal fallout for us.
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>>3071154
he will go to trial but the sentance will effectively be him being held to ransom until a benificiary can step in and pay it or basically paying a fine.

the Trial by combat probably wont go as you expect it and we won't be able to kill him without fallout.

>>3071205
see above
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>>3071223
I did see what's above and it's all false without any substantial proof. We can kill him in a trial by combat without legal fallout unlike a challenge, which he will never accept anyway. Your prediction on how the sentence will go is nothing more than that, prediction. Whether the trial by combat goes our way relies on the dice which means your prediction means nothing.
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>>3070531
>Speak to the Burgermeister. He and Sergeant Tuck seem to be close and the man is obviously influential with the running of the town. Though a mere commoner, it may help to have him on-side for this. [Hearty]

Worse comes to worst, we can bribe the man to influence the trial. Although I'm curious why a mere novice is acting as intermediary. One of Lord Norveski's daughter, perhaps?

Btw Forgotten, what do we know about the Crown Prince IC? Because if what Vancewell said is true, he might be a Joffrey in the making.
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>>3071258
>it's all false without any substantial proof.

except its not the trial by depends on him being actually charged and brought to court which he likely won't be run through the courts given his associates, its more likely he will simply be held to ransom.

>We can kill him in a trial by combat without legal fallout unlike a challenge.

The legal fallout was never really my contention, my contention was more on the general fallout rather than a purely legal one and legality is note a static thing particularly in a feudal system it has privleges and exception that can be invoked by the rich and powerful or those favoured by them

>Your prediction on how the sentence will go is nothing more than that, prediction.
He says he has powerful friends and in the same breath disparges the queen their is no reason to believe he doesn't have favor as a kingsman and favor with the Duke, when he is given a chance he can invoke the good name of his associates to pressure the diswaying of justice in the face of his crimes regardless of the fact is prediction should not take away from the point made.

>Whether the trial by combat goes our way relies on the dice

except thats at least in part my point.
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>>3071297
>except its not the trial by depends on him being actually charged and brought to court which he likely won't be run through the courts given his associates, its more likely he will simply be held to ransom.

He's already been brought to court and will be charged, that's all it requires to get a trial by combat. The rest is mere prediction which means nothing.

>The legal fallout was never really my contention, my contention was more on the general fallout rather than a purely legal one and legality is note a static thing particularly in a feudal system it has privleges and exception that can be invoked by the rich and powerful or those favoured by them

What the general fallout is doesn't matter, i only care about the legal one. Forgotten has already stated we can inflict a killing or fatal blow in a trial by combat without any legal fallout, but we can't do that in challenge which will be considered murder. Vancewell is also not stupid. He will never accept a challenge because he knows we will try to bribe witnesses if we try to murder him.

>He says he has powerful friends and in the same breath disparges the queen their is no reason to believe he doesn't have favor as a kingsman and favor with the Duke, when he is given a chance he can invoke the good name of his associates to pressure the diswaying of justice in the face of his crimes regardless of the fact is prediction should not take away from the point made.

The fact he has powerful friends is why we should demand a trial by combat rather than a challenge. If he dies while in a challenge, then his allies will be able to accuse us of murder and legally punish us.

>except thats at least in part my point.

Then your point is moot. A challenge will also rely on the dice and he won't accept it without trusted friends with him to testify against us.
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>>3071286
Joffrey was just a sadistic imbecile who just wanted to torment everyone around him. He didn't have any agendas/ambitions, nor the brains to achieve them. This Crown Prince on the other seems to have a certain goal he's set on, and the brains to accomplish that goal.
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On the subject of politics, should we switch to a Queensman now that we seen what the Kingsman are like? Or should we continue as a Kingsman?
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>>3071307
>challenge will also rely on the dice and he won't accept it without trusted friends with him to testify against us.

He doesn't need trusted friends to testify against us he only needs to invoke their name and title to make a farce of things if they favor him.

also the Trial by combat will require rolls so I dont really see your point? and unless we deal a killing blow wont mark the end of our relationship with sir Vancewell only the beginning of it.

As an aside a trial by combat killing blow is going to be a black mark for us and undoubtebly a path of thorns choice considering it will bypass most of the problems around resolving the trial as a half measure.

>>3071321
One Villian should not be grounds for changing ones stance on where the Authority of the crown should come from
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>>3071341
>He doesn't need trusted friends to testify against us he only needs to invoke their name and title to make a farce of things if they favor him.

No, he needs them only in a challenge which is legally grey. Not even the Crown Prince can contest the results of a tradition like a trial by combat, so he won't be able to accuse us of anything.

>also the Trial by combat will require rolls so I dont really see your point? and unless we deal a killing blow wont mark the end of our relationship with sir Vancewell only the beginning of it.

If we don't deal a killing blow, then sure. A challenge prevents us from any lethal action and Vancewell will never accept it.

>As an aside a trial by combat killing blow is going to be a black mark for us and undoubtebly a path of thorns choice considering it will bypass most of the problems around resolving the trial as a half measure.

No, it won't be put a black mark on us, nor will it be a half measure. A trial by combat is sanctioned by the laws of Adam and a half measure will be us trying murder Vancewell in a challenge, while bribing the witnesses.

>One Villian should not be grounds for changing ones stance on where the Authority of the crown should come from

It's not one Villian. Vancewell has the complete backing of the Crown Prince and clearly states he was doing his errands for him and his political group.
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>>3071343
> It's not one Villian. Vancewell has the complete backing of the Crown Prince and clearly states he was doing his errands for him and his political group.
First off, the pastebin states that almost no one fits squarely in a single political field. A Kingsman can perfectly have some Queensmen-leaning ideas.

Second, I don't see any reason to outright believe Vancewell's words, especially since he has already shown a penchant for lying.

A personal friend of the Crown Prince and Lord Montbrun? For all we know he could be a simple acquaintance that oversells his relationship for the obvious benefits.

On a mission for the Crown Prince? What a wonderfully vague phrasing. Not to mention that he hasn't given out any preicse info about said mission.

Saying that those who stand with the Crown Prince will become fat and rich? A last ditch effort to save his ass.

Until we see more, I withhold my judgement.
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>>3071343
>A trial by combat is sanctioned by the laws of Adam and a half measure will be us trying murder Vancewell in a challenge, while bribing the witnesses.

not really what I meant by a half measure, when I said that I meant the matter being resolved in a permanent manner that results in us never seeing Vancewell again.

>It's not one Villian. Vancewell has the complete backing of the Crown Prince and clearly states he was doing his errands for him and his political group.

The act of a a lone man acting on his own perogative and base desires does not colour those who may be his masters.
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>>3071361
>First off, the pastebin states that almost no one fits squarely in a single political field. A Kingsman can perfectly have some Queensmen-leaning ideas.

Irrelevant. Vancewell blatantly stated he was working for the Kingsman and thought we were a Queensman for messing with him.

>Second, I don't see any reason to outright believe Vancewell's words, especially since he has already shown a penchant for lying.

That's because you're a retard. Vancewell spoke his words while panicked and stressed, knowing fully there's no point in lying as we already attacked him even when he said he's allied with the Crown Prince.

>A personal friend of the Crown Prince and Lord Montbrun? For all we know he could be a simple acquaintance that oversells his relationship for the obvious benefits.

He was doing their errands and being their personal correspondent, you fuckwit. We do know that he wasn't just their acquaintance since they will never entrust him with such an important task if he was, you dumb waste of sperm.

>On a mission for the Crown Prince? What a wonderfully vague phrasing. Not to mention that he hasn't given out any preicse info about said mission.

There was nothing vague, you dumb retard. He openly stated he was working for the Crown Prince and Duke, you're just a dumbfuck who choses to ignore it because it shits all over your invalid argument.

>Saying that those who stand with the Crown Prince will become fat and rich? A last ditch effort to save his ass.

Except it wasn't retard. He was clearly said that he was with the Crown Prince, and he was working for him.

>Until we see more, I withhold my judgement
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Your judgment is wrong and retarded regardless of whether you withhold it.

>not really what I meant by a half measure, when I said that I meant the matter being resolved in a permanent manner that results in us never seeing Vancewell again.

Which we can do in a trial by combat. A challenge is something he will never accept and i don't want to deal with legal problems that will get us into.

>The act of a a lone man acting on his own perogative and base desires does not colour those who may be his masters.

It actually does. It speaks volumes that they will entrust someone like this with important missions and give him their blessings and protection.
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>>3071375
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>>3071378
> knowing fully there's no point in lying as we already attacked him even when he said he's allied with the Crown Prince.

I mean you shouldn't go calling anon a retard and then say something like this. He was obviously trying to get us to stop by any means necessary. I'm not inclined to believe him based on this alone
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>>3071380
No, he didn't retard. He just kept repeating it even after we attacked him to warn us of the consequences of attacking him, meaning his threat was real. He would've stopped repeating it when he saw it won't stop us if he was lying. I will say whatever i please, you troglodyte.
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>>3071382
If you say so mate, but foaming at the mouth and calling everyone a retard just because they disagree with you really doesn't help your argument. Might want to calm down there chief and stop making assumptions
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>>3070531
>>Speak with the Nun. You’ll have to be delicate, but perhaps you can glean some inkling of Lord Norveski’s temperament and who he keeps counsel with. [Idealist]
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>>3071384
I'm calling you a retard because that's what you are, retard. There is no assumption.
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>>3071387
Alright buddy, you're obviously upset that people don't agree with you. Go have a juice box and a nap, it's fine, we'll wait until you're in a better mood to play
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Whatever you say, retard.
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>>3071378
>Which we can do in a trial by combat.
True unless the cost proves to be not worth it in anons opinion

>A challenge is something he will never accept and i don't want to deal with legal problems that will get us into.

yes and I'm not adovcating for it, I never have and the legal problems may or may not be the worst thing to come as a consequence of this intended Trial by combat.

>It actually does. It speaks volumes that they will entrust someone like this with important missions and give him their blessings and protection.

maybe close associates or an ally of high standing or influnce but a knight asked to before a menial errand? not really unless you could prove he was suffciently trusted to before a mission of great importance.

>>3071391
man you are just the most charming fucking faggot on this entire board no wonder we've had THREE fucking threads devoted to your pedantic tendency to argue anything and everything.
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>>3071378
Insulting someone without adding much besides 'No u wrong stopid' is a nice way to admit you've lost a debate, man. Just two words of advice for the future.

Still, first Montbrunfag and now Retardfag. After BCQ part of Forgotten's fanbase must have caught a bad case of idiocy.
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>>3071392
>True unless the cost proves to be not worth it in anons opinion

We will see if the costs are worth it then.

>yes and I'm not adovcating for it, I never have and the legal problems may or may not be the worst thing to come as a consequence of this intended Trial by combat.

Then this argument is pointless then.

>maybe close associates or an ally of high standing or influnce but a knight asked to before a menial errand? not really unless you could prove he was suffciently trusted to before a mission of great importance.

It wasn't a menial errand. He was sending personal messages between with important things in them. He is clearly someone they trust and will go to protect.

>man you are just the most charming fucking faggot on this entire board no wonder we've had THREE fucking threads devoted to your pedantic tendency to argue anything and everything.
What the fuck are you talking about, you stupid buffoon? I hope you aren't implying i'm Montbrunfag, because ohhh, you couldn't be farther from the fucking truth, you imbecile.

>>3071394
>Insulting someone without adding much besides 'No u wrong stopid' is a nice way to admit you've lost a debate, man. Just two words of advice for the future.

>Still, first Montbrunfag and now Retardfag. After BCQ part of Forgotten's fanbase must have caught a bad case of idiocy.

No, i didn't lose the argument, you moron. Running away doesn't mean you won, you dumb shithead. You can delude yourself, but it won't make it true. I don't give a single atom of a fuck about your labels. Clearly Forgotten''s fanbase is filled with dumbasses when fuckwits with zero arguments like you infest it.
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>>3071394
Also shove your advice up your anus where it belongs. Argue or get the fuck out, cunt.
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>>3071403
I've already argued my piece.

Vancewall is a murderer, a rapist and a liar. Nothing of what he said is damning, solid evidence that he's working for the Crown Prince or Lord Montbrun unless you wish to outright trust the words of a murderer, rapist and liar.

So really, *you* should tell us why you're so sure Vancewell is being completely honest with Emile.
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>>3071397
>It wasn't a menial errand. He was sending personal messages between with important things in them. He is clearly someone they trust and will go to protect.

which is as menial as the message thats sent for all you know it could be ''Hi honey how was your day?'' or ''Hey lord X I just took a massive shit look it shaped like the queen LOL XD''

granted it could be more than that but he could even be bluffing for all we know.

>Implying your are in fact not montebrun fag
lets see the checklist

>Argues insisently
Check
>refutes arguments with ''no u''
Check
>Replies to litreally any and every response given
Check
>brings down the quality of any given thread he particpates in with the above
Check
>Claims points are moot or words do not exist because he can't comprehend them
Check
>Spergs out
Check
>Forgets to link posts when sperging
Check
>will continue to argue once anons have said all they are willing and can't leave it alone
Check
>Formats his posts the exact same way
Check
>Always posts in a condscending manner
Check checkity check


but please do go on and protest the point, you continue to be the worst part of this thread

>inb4 montbrunefag claims to show and protest anons total and utter innocence
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>>3071407
>I've already argued my piece.
Your piece is shit and wrong, dumbass.


>Vancewall is a murderer, a rapist and a liar. Nothing of what he said is damning, solid evidence that he's working for the Crown Prince or Lord Montbrun unless you wish to outright trust the words of a murderer, rapist and liar.

Who gives a shit fuckwad? Whether he's a rapist or a murderer doesn't make what he said about being protected by the Crown Prince untrue. There was nothing vague about what he said, he kept repeating he works for them even after we attacked him, shithead.

>>So really, *you* should tell us why you're so sure Vancewell is being completely honest with Emile.

I already said why he was saying the truth, retard. Not my problem that you're a handicapped moron who can't scroll up.
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>>3071410
>which is as menial as the message thats sent for all you know it could be ''Hi honey how was your day?'' or ''Hey lord X I just took a massive shit look it shaped like the queen LOL XD''
>granted it could be more than that but he could even be bluffing for all we know.

No, it isn't menial dumbass. The Duke isn't the Crown Prince's ''honey'', so shove your false comparison up your butthole.

>>Implying your are in fact not montebrun fag
>lets see the checklist

>Argues insisently
>Check
>refutes arguments with ''no u''
>Check
>Replies to litreally any and every response given
>Check
>brings down the quality of any given thread he particpates in with the above
>Check
>Claims points are moot or words do not exist because he can't comprehend them
>Check
>Spergs out
>Check
>>Forgets to link posts when sperging
>Check
>>will continue to argue once anons have said all they are willing and can't leave it alone
>Check
>>Formats his posts the exact same way
>Check
>>Always posts in a condscending manner
>Check checkity check

Are you done fuckwit? Your checklist is nothing more than shit you pulled out of your ass to assist your non-argument. and derailment. Montbrunfag is a complete and utter moralfag obessed with his ''muh idealism'' paladin character like you. I don't give a fuck whether if Vancewell is punished as long we don't deal with his allies.

>but please do go on and protest the point, you continue to be the worst part of this thread

I don't give a single shit what you think of whether i ruin this or not, dumbass. Argue or get the fuck out if you're annoyed by arguments and people who won't buy your mental gymnastics bullshit.
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>>3071419
>No, it isn't menial dumbass. The Duke isn't the Crown Prince's ''honey'', so shove your false comparison up your butthole.

nice response I'm sure people love you at parties

>Are you done fuckwit? Your checklist is nothing more than shit you pulled out of your ass to assist your non-argument. and derailment. Montbrunfag is a complete and utter moralfag obessed with his ''muh idealism'' paladin character like you. I don't give a fuck whether if Vancewell is punished as long we don't deal with his allies.

Uh huh Im sure this more or less resolves thing you really TRULY aren't montebrunfag then

>I don't give a single shit what you think of whether i ruin this or not, dumbass. Argue or get the fuck out if you're annoyed by arguments and people who won't buy your mental gymnastics bullshit.

Uh huh because mental gymnastics are the only way to get around your 200IQ
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>>3071422
>nice response I'm sure people love you at parties
Lol, just what i thought. You arguments are shit and you can do nothing but derail.

>Uh huh Im sure this more or less resolves thing you really TRULY aren't montebrunfag then

Yeah, yeah, shithead. You have no argument and you know it. You can repeat that i'm Montbrunfag or whoever your fucktard ass wants to project on to derail, but it will never, ever, ever be true no matter how much you constantly repeat it.

>Uh huh because mental gymnastics are the only way to get around your 200IQ

LOL, like i need a 200 IQ to argue with mentally handicapped cuntheads like you, absolute LOL.
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Poor forgotten he must look at this shitflinging and think how he went from BQC being a comfy quest with nice discussion and manly tears being shed over brothers in arms to this quest which has had shit flinging for 4 threads straight and has shown no sign of stopping due complete and utter stupidity on both sides who dont know when to quit.

how long until he shows nothing but complete and utter disdain for this most unchivalrous behaviour?
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>>3071378
You arguments are perfectly legible without the needless insults.

I know this is the chan, but there is no need for this.
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>>3071425
I don't understand how it went from reasoned discussion to mudslinging so quickly.

Sometimes I'm proud of my players, but other times...
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>>3071432
If i see circus clowns spouting their hogwash as anything but nonsense, i don't entertain their bullshit nonsense, i just laugh and call them clowns.

>I know this is the chan

Not anymore sadly. Can't wait for the malicious ads and lovely censorship just for a couple of Benjamins.
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>>3071425
> how long until he shows nothing but complete and utter disdain for this most unchivalrous behaviour?
4 minutes and 10 seconds, apparently.

>>3071432
You probably missed my question in that shitfest Forgotten, but what does Emile know about the Crown Prince?
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>>3071438
>Crown Prince
Very little, beyond him being just shucks of 20 years of age and heir to the throne. He has one younger sister and a newborn baby brother.

You have no concrete information of Jian relationship with the King or Queen, nor any indication (other than Vancewells claims) that he would be at odds with the Order Reginae (dedicated queensmen).
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>>3071437
Call them clowns then, no need to take it any further with the mudslinging.
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>>3071459
Its not worth much forgotten but I am truly sorry you have to consistantly put up with this shit
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>>3071459
Can we actually kill Vancewell in a Trial by Combat without any legal trouble? Or can we only give him a spank and anything beyond that is a no-no? You said in your last post that you will give us further information on Trials by Combat and Challenges.
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Not going to bother reading all that shitflinging but why are you so hellbent on killing him?
I'm fine with just winning the trial and outing him as a murderer and a rapist
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Also, i'm this anon. My IP changed. You guys REALLY love having intense arguments, don't you?
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>>3071473
I just fear him reporting to his powerful allies. I really don't want a prince+duke against us when we're just a knight from a minor noble family.
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>>3071478
Now that the matter is going to be brought to Lord Norveski's attention, I doubt it will remain secret. Offering quarters to Vancewell is going to bite us, unfortunately.

That is, if the ass is really who he claims to be and not a braggart.
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>>3071493
We can still ask Lord Norveski to hide our identity. We didn't reveal our identity to anyone in Grenoble, right?
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>>3071496
Well other than parading through the city with out family crest (I assume) on full display
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>>3071497
If we did that, then yeah, we're screwed. We should've entered in Grenoble in secrecy.
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>>3071502
That doesn't make a lot of sense narratively. We even told our squire to sit up straight and relax because we've done nothing wrong, we're bringing a bad person to justice. I don't think in-character, we're the type to sneak around in this sort of situation. This all feels mostly OOC to avoid trouble
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>>3071473
when we pieced it together and were fighting him in the forest I saw it as Emile getting righteously angry and killing him like a dog for what he did.

Now that we are taking him to see justice done, I don't really care if he dies or not as Emile has had time to cool his heels and see Justice done through the legal system, if he escapes its just something that can be bought up later to persue if we are still driven to do good and noble things and smite villians having experinced more of Canton and possibly become a bit more jaded about Chivalry and Knighthood.

In short he is actually a good example of how the of Thorns path works in this society when you go all in AND it makes for a fantastic early game Villian for our young Idealistic Emile

>>3071478
well its just going to be a consequence we will have to live with if he has the powerful friends he claims he has

really all this talk of murder and killing in a trial by combat really seems to against the grain of what people have wanted previously as it seems like an incredibly cynical and Pragmatic way of getting what Anons want and flies in the face of how Emile has acted before[/spoiler

as such it should be a path of Thorns option really
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>>3071459
Hey OP, Just by the way what kind of punishment knight would face for murder, rape and arson?
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>>3071508
>>3071509
Well that's the problem with idealistic characters like Emile. They don't have any pragmatism and seek to do what they consider right regardless of the consequences.

You guys are completely right that this goes against his character though. I was metagaming, so sorry.
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>Go to bed after gentlemanly discussion
>Snowed in, so comfy
>Wake up late
>Checking my phone
>Mimi has a boat load of new posts
>Did I miss an update?
>Read thread
Dear God dudes
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>>3071524
Yeah, I don't get what's with all this anger for just a quest. Life is too short to be pissed off all the time.
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>>3071517
ehh think of this experince if it goes poorly as a way for Emile to lose a little faith in Knights & Knighthood as an institution and grow as a character it's not the end of the world if we make powerful enemies, look at BQC and what happened with Superior Sykia(?)

let this be the lynchpin for character devlopment for Emile whatever that may mean.
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>>Snowed in, so comfy
It's not fair
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>>3071526
I actually like the idealistic nature of Emile and hope to maintain it. Going down like Prince in BCQ would feel unoriginal and rehashed. Besides, Forgotten said that playing as an idealistic character would be far more rewarding than a cynic, so i hope this doesn't go wrong.
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>>3071535
oh I'm not saying he should lose his sense of Idealism I'm all for not repeating princes jaded cynicism, all I'm saying Emile could become a little more wordly and a maybe even a little cynical about Knighthood and its trappings from dealing with Vancewell
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>>3071545
>all I'm saying Emile could become a little more wordly and a maybe even a little cynical about Knighthood and its trappings from dealing with Vancewell
Then yeah, I can agree with that.
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Well it wasn't all comfy
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>>3071545
I like that. An idealistic character that isn't all starry-eyed about knighthood. A protector of people and not a pampered noble babysitter.
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>>3071545
>>3071570
You can be idealistic while still being realistic about how things work in practice yeah.
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>>3070531
>Speak to the Burgermeister. He and Sergeant Tuck seem to be close and the man is obviously influential with the running of the town. Though a mere commoner, it may help to have him on-side for this. [Hearty]

We can flirt with the Nun later. We gotta do this Law & Order shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz4-aEGvqQM
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Flirt with nun
Let's take this bad boy off the rails
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>Speak to the Burgermeister. He and Sergeant Tuck seem to be close and the man is obviously influential with the running of the town. Though a mere commoner, it may help to have him on-side for this. [Hearty]


“So you’re the one that found John’s killer then.” The Burgermeister, a common man called Alfred Keyes, says with some sadness. His face falls into a toad-like third chin as you confirm his suspicions, clearly he knew the man well.”Tuck here says you’re speaking sense. You caught the man on your own volition?”

”Indeed, he did not submit without a struggle.” You say, considering for the fifth time today that you really should have just put your knife through Vancewell’s eyes and be done with it. Hardly a knightly notion though, you doubt your next confession will be a brief one with all these ungodly inclinations of yours lately.

"You were the better man." The Burgermeister shrugs decisively. He eyes you speculatively, like a , leaning in close he grips your arm. His eyes you meaningfully. "John and I served in the War of Borders many years ago. He was a good man, he and his kin did not deserve to die like this. We both want the murderer punished, I will do what I can."

You would not have assumed that the portly man before you had fought in any war, except perhaps against a particularly vicious serving of roast duck and mutton on the banquet battlefield. Judging by the strength of his grip, you can believe he really was a military man at some point. That or there were some particularly ferocious roast pigs at these banquets. You regard the Burgermeister with some caution. His gratitude is obvious, but if this is some kind of underhanded reward...

From what the man says, you understand that the Burgermeister's support will ensure that the matter at least goes to trial and your actions during the arrest are unlikely to be seriously questioned. Though he doubts that a nobleborn such as Vancewell will pay anything other than a Bloodgelt for the deaths of commonfolk, a steep one if he can help it, he and his compatriots appreciate you ensured Vancewell is at least publicly shamed for his crimes.

[1/2]
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[2/2]

John Tailor was a popular man by all accounts, an upstanding citizen of Grenoble that was heavily involved with the town council and several business ventures. Not rich, but certainly a self-made man with his own successful shop in the city. His death will anger the folk, doubly so if the perpetrator goes unpunished.


>Burgermeister Alfred Keyes is GRATEFUL towards you. He and several other prominent members of the well-to-do Grenoble commonfolk will more readily do business with you. The men-at-arms will treat you more favourably in any incidents while in Grenoble.
>Grenoble Merchants: KNOWN. You are protected from being cheated in Grenoble Markets. You may approach Grenoble merchants as an investor, usually buying a share in a caravan or some other venture. This typically generates a 50% return on the investment, but are not without risk.
>Grenoble Moneylenders: KNOWN. You may borrow up to [2 Wealth] in money, the borrowed amount being returned in with an additional [1 Wealth] as interest in the next season. (3rd Day of Spring, being owed back 3rd Day of Summer etc).

While viewed as an honourable man by much of Grenoble, your opportunity for more favourable opportunities beyond KNOWN is not possible until you have demonstrated some fiscal responsibility with a venture or loan. Consider a letter of introduction rather than a recommendation.

Sergeant-at-Arms Tuck returns to the courtyard with an escort of men. ”Straighten up, at your posts boys.”

”Here he comes.” Burgermeister Alfred murmurs, fixing up his ridiculous billowing coat which has almost as many rolls as he does. Clearly he is speaking of the Lord Norveski. From the sound of things, the Lord has a whole retinue following him from inside the castle. ”As the accuser, you have a few options. How will you handle this?”

“I will ask his lordship to call a trial and…”

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>"...allow me to prove his guilt before the almighty in trial by combat, as is my right as Knight." This will give you an opportunity to possibly land a lethal blow on the man, but you will be in the spotlight as the accuser. The sentence, if he survives, is still up to Norveski. [Haughty]

>"...sit in judgement over this man, as is his right as Lord Protector of those whom he has sinned against." You will be relying on the Lord's fairness and wisdom, but he at least takes responsibility for the verdict and sentence. [Hearty]

>"... let him be judged by the Holy Mother in Trial by Fire." Ancient church law, rarely invoked. If the accused holds a torch without flinching, he is favoured by Cain. If his hand heals within a week, he is under Adam's protection. [Idealist]

Each of these options will require a Persuasion roll as you lay out the evidence and your willingness to testify on oath in the next post.
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>>3073090
>"...allow me to prove his guilt before the almighty in trial by combat, as is my right as Knight." This will give you an opportunity to possibly land a lethal blow on the man, but you will be in the spotlight as the accuser. The sentence, if he survives, is still up to Norveski. [Haughty]
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>>3073090
Wait, what does ''you will be in the spotlight'' mean? Can we hide our identity without Vancewell's allies knowing who we are if we don't choose Haughty?
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>>3073090
>>"...sit in judgement over this man, as is his right as Lord Protector of those whom he has sinned against." You will be relying on the Lord's fairness and wisdom, but he at least takes responsibility for the verdict and sentence. [Hearty]

Character development HO! or not depending on what happens during the trial
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>>3073090
>"...sit in judgement over this man, as is his right as Lord Protector of those whom he has sinned against." You will be relying on the Lord's fairness and wisdom, but he at least takes responsibility for the verdict and sentence. [Hearty]
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>>3073090
>>"...sit in judgement over this man, as is his right as Lord Protector of those whom he has sinned against." You will be relying on the Lord's fairness and wisdom, but he at least takes responsibility for the verdict and sentence. [Hearty]
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>>3073094
Considering we're already KNOWN by everyone that's anyone in the city I'm going to asume that's an impossibility
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>>3073110
correction we are know by the Burgher class not everyone
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>>3073090
>"...sit in judgement over this man, as is his right as Lord Protector of those whom he has sinned against." You will be relying on the Lord's fairness and wisdom, but he at least takes responsibility for the verdict and sentence. [Hearty]

I wonder if we could invest in some caravan heading to Aubres and travel with it to ensure it doesn't fall to brigands or worse.
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>>3073165
Sounds like a plan, from memory the general consensus is to go to Aubrey and do the vigil, either signing on to guard a merchant and earn some money or protecting folk for the sake of it is a decent idea.
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>>3073090
>"...allow me to prove his guilt before the almighty in trial by combat, as is my right as Knight." This will give you an opportunity to possibly land a lethal blow on the man, but you will be in the spotlight as the accuser. The sentence, if he survives, is still up to Norveski. [Haughty]
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>>3073165
Supporting this vote and plan
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>>3073165
Good plan. Support
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>>3071570
Also claiming this ID
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>>3073165
Supporting
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>>3062281
Ok, now it should be fine.


>>3070134
>They bear the Rampant Black Eagle on Burgundy Saltire of Norveski
noted
motto idea ?


>>2991857
>>2991852
you used another player family, good. Obsiouvly you have all the rights to modify or combine them.


>>2988926
next is the mountbrun family with a raven.
2988474
if the player is still here, give a name. If is not given i will decide it myself or by suggestions of other anons or by forgotten.
in regards to the special pictures, i m starting. i have a riddle there, would you prefer the last moments of Adam protecting the gate of is new city (already working) or Adam that stops Cain in killing the dragon of Nova Cathagi ?
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>>3073165
support.

well we could just offer protection, if our finances aren t great. what about asking to Norveski if there is something that should die near Grenoble ? (or maybe we should just go to our destination ? i don t want to stop the pilgramage, but if there is something evil rampaging near the town it shouldn t be allowed to live.)
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>>3073165
Supporting wholly.
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>>2988578
and also a Pascae house, in the first one the snake was more aggressive.
there could be another shield for them, maybe.
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>>3073438
>>3073427
Great helardy as always.
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>>3073090
"Allow me the right to prove his guilt in trial by combat" Haughtu
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>>3073165
I like the idea of investing in a caravan to our targeted destination. Safety in numbers and we could get a small return on our investment.
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>"...sit in judgement over this man, as is his right as Lord Protector of those whom he has sinned against." You will be relying on the Lord's fairness and wisdom, but he at least takes responsibility for the verdict and sentence. [Hearty]

Due to the Burgermeister's support, this will at least go to trial.

Persuasion Check [Lower Social Standing / Reasonable Request]
>DC 40
>Respecting Lordly Jurisdiction +20DC
>DC 60

0 = You fail to convince Lord Norveski of the strength of your evidence at first glance. Should the trial fail, you may stand accused of unlawful assault and receive minor punishment.
1 = Norveski is displeased that he is the one to clean up this mess, but understands the necessity of a trial.
2 = Norveski calls a trial, though he wisely reserves judgement before he hears the evidence in full.
3 = Norveski is outraged at the murder of his citizens, he calls a trial and publically praises your actions in front of his retinue and family.

Kingsman Aubrey duchy trait would have been handy about now...
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Oops.

>DC 60

3 rolls of 1d100.
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Rolled 75 (1d100)

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Rolled 59 (1d100)

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Rolled 66 (1d100)

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>1 Success

I won't be able to post for the next couple of days, see you lot on the weekend.
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FYI it is the afternoon now and the trial won't begin until tomorrow (quest time). You have some time until then, I assume you'll be staying at the Duck Inn again. If there is anything else you wish to do between that time let me know, I'll present some options for a caravan venture heading westward in due course as that seems to have garnered enough steam for a vote.
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Can we be the one to request a trial by combat if he ends up getting off with a slap on the wrist? Would that undermine Norveski's authority?
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>>3074664
>Kingsman Aubrey duchy trait would have been handy about now...
After cheering for Gabriel's death, you have no right to say such things :V

>>3074736
On top of my head, I'd say either speaking with that nun initiate to have a better grasp of what could influence Lord Norveski during the trial or gathering info and rumors on the Crown Prince and/or Lord Montbrun.
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>>3074779
No, as the trial has already occurred. You can challenge him, but Norveski willll take a dim view of it if you end up killing the man (assuming his sentence his not lethal).
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>not going for the trial of combat
fucking hell lads we knew he was guilty this ain't knightly at all
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>>3075923
Ehh screw it, if he doesn't get punished we can grow from it to consider taking justice into our hands next time.
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>>3075940
This. This will follow in the path of Emile becoming disenchanted with knighthood. We can become a wandering righteous crusader. Like a medieval Judge Dread.
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>>3075981
>>3075940

Now you're getting into the groove of things!
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>Things to do between trials and now
We should check out the local blacksmith, see if we can get some new items/ weapons.
We should also check out the local religious order and pray for guidance (might meet someone of importance there)
Also, ask around for any local beasties that need thwacking
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>>3076110
As I recall we are at the limit between barely wealthy and destitute, and spending any more money would cause us to lose our healthy DC bonus (+5)
So I would advise against buying anything for now until we invest in a caravan or come across some more funds
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>>3076160
Unfortunately this is true. I think we are at 3 wealth.
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>>3076198
And the most important thing that I of course forgot to mention is that being poor(er) would lower our social standing and give us harder checks in conversations
Which is the last thing we want right now
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>>3075923
Anon had his chance to kill Vancewell. They offered quarter, so now it's time to follow the law.

Besides, it's not like killing him in a trial by combat would have been exactly easy.

>>3076198
Don't forget we still have to sell the Horror's eggs.
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>>3076589
Idk if the sale was implied or not. The 3 wealth included the proceeds of the eggs though
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>>3076611
Seems you're right. Never mind then, we'll focus on something else.
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No updates today or tomorrow, but I'll get a new thread starting on Sunday 10:00-11:00 AEST
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>>3078176
I'm going to have to cancel tomorrow's session and start a new thread up next week or even a bit later. I'll announce when on the thread general and twitter sometime during the week.
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>>3079721
At least you haven't... Forgotten us

>sunglassesYEAAAHHH.webm
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>>3074664
>Things to do before the trial

Find a way to ensure it goes in our favor and get the fucker castrated.
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