>>3015191
Oh this will be a journey through the Underworld thread.

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>>3015191
For Mother!

>>3015191
>Siener Quest
Oh Jesus. I was prepared for spoop.

But not for this.

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>>3015191
Oh boy we gonna get extra spoopy today! Time to walk through the void!

>>3015201
>underworld
>not the spoopiest

>>3015191
the first time i am here for the beginning of a thread.......Curse my britfag timezone.

>>3015191
There is a darkness around you. Not a lack of light, but a tangible darkness felt like prickling needles over your mind. You move, but it feels slowed, like walking through thick molasses. You can feel no space beyond you, as if you were buried alive, and yet you continue to walk and feel no wall, your lantern's light touching nothing beyond you, reaching no wall and offering no illumination. Ahead of you, suddenly, you can see a light flicker in the distance. You can feel it, as if its small flame were a raging bonfire, its warmth stings as it purges the biting cold from you.

The light dances, flickers, and grows. You can't tell if the darkness is abating, of if you are growing more accustomed to it, but the darkness around you seem to take form, growing from the darkness like ice freezing from the air. You can make out the smallest portion of its structure as its crystalline form twists into fractals of impossibility through geometries that could not exist. They are still, reaching into an unseen cold eternity, but as you move further into the dark chamber, the surfaces seem to shift, rippling like knives just beneath the surface of water, the blades grinding through one another with a sharp sound that echoes through your mind as an infinity of fractal structures suddenly shift into new infinities. The whole chamber, and unseen layers of it beyond, seem to come to live slowly, like a great machine powering up after unknown eons of unmaintained slumber, its gears grinding with rust and its factors groaning in protest at their movement, as if a great, living beast slowly wakes.

You wonder if you have stepped into its lair, or its mouth.

The flame ahead of you continues to flicker, as if swinging from an unseen rope.

>Approach the flame
>Call out to the darkness
>Turn and attempt to egress
>Other (write in)

>>3015218
>Approach the flame
I dont think it would be a good idea to make "noise" in this place.

>>3015218
>Other (Pray to the First Hive, maybe if we use faith we'll find a way to the First Queen)

>>3015218
>Approach the flame
"Those who bring light may see, but are seen. Only the Blind may see in the Darkness and remain unseen."

>>3015218
>Approach the flame

>>3015228
We should avoid making noise in general.

>>3015218
>Turn and attempt to egress
>Other (Remember your study about the anglerfish from earth that used to attract it's prey by using a shinning light. It's trying to attract you don't fall for it.)

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>>3015232
>>3015228

I kinda doubt that...

>>3015218
>Approach the flame

>>3015237
Yeah I'm thinking it's a trap too. When in the darkness we can't be seen but in the light is a different story.

>>3015237
>>3015240

I don't think it's the void or something overtly dangerous, since Emmerich himself said that wherever Seiner has gone, he couldn't follow and Emmeric was trying to prevent Seiner from getting here in the first place.

>>3015241
>>3015235
>>3015232
>>3015228
>enter the fucking trap
Welp this was short.

>>3015218
>>3015228
Changing vote to approach cautiously and keep an eye out for other things of note.

>>3015218
>>Approach the flame

>>3015247
EMMERICH SAID THIS SHIT IS DANGEROUS EVEN TO THE ENEMY.

>>3015247
An this place does seem kind of...dead. It dosent seem like a place of active power, but like a tomb or a long abandoned home. There could be dangers, but likely not from the Void Gods

>>3015247
The point of thw light is not to see but to attract anyone. Remember what it was said that only humans can walk the void hidding and jumping from shadow to shadow?

But i guess this will be a short run.

>>3015251
Why do people want to step into the thing described as a mouth?

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>>3015232
Changing vote to this because why the hell not this is something else >>3015250

>>3015255
I don't remember him saying that but okay.

>>3015261
Well Seiner is dead i guess. No honestly did people never watched horror movies? This is such a obvious trap that it hurts.

>>3015263
YES. That's we are supposed to do. BUT PEOPLE DON'T CARE TO LISTEN AND QD IS LIKELY TO GIVE A SECOND CHANCE HERE.

>the surfaces seem to shift, rippling like knives just beneath the surface of water, the blades grinding through one another with a sharp sound that echoes through your mind

That sounds like a mouth with very sharp teeths to me.

>>3015218
>Turn and attempt to egress

>>3015269
He explicitly stated this is a place "where the divine cannot go." This world is fucking dangerous especially if you're a god.

>>3015218
FINE THEN<FINAL CHANGE
>Skim across the edge of the shadows while keeping an eye on the light.
There.

>>3015237

It's not a trap.

At least not a real one. But it may be a test.

>>3015273
No it's nearly identical to the description of the white crystal that Seiner found.

FUCKERS DON'T FALL FOR THE OBVIOUS TRAP FOR FUCK SAKE!

>>3015218
>>Approach the flame to examine the source without stepping into its illumination

>>3015279
Emmerich works for the Void
Emmerich could not go here.
Emmerich did not want us to go here.
Emmerich was trying to stop Seiner before he got here, whatever this was.
Obviously, we would want to at least investigate why he was trying so hard to keep us from going here.

>>3015218

>>3015247
>>3015269
Changing vote from to >>3015280 Happy now?

>>3015283
Testing to see who is dumb enough to fall for it most likely. Don't touch stuff in this place. This here is a place were thoughs manifest and become real.

The thing is LITERALY dangling from a rope as if it was a bait! Fucking read it!

>>3015218
Can you do another to clarify things
>>3015283
>it's not a trap
Are you retarded? IT FUCKING IS. This entire world is a death world that will destroy if you aren't careful. Aren't you going to exercise caution when we have only one goal?

>>3015289
He wants to stop us from reaching the First Hive because that would be the beginning of the end for our poor Enemy.

>>3015218
You walk forward, the distance between you and the strange flame an indeterminate and seemingly arbitrary concept. As you walk closser, it feels as if the flame moves to match. As you get closer, you see a figure. He is holding the lantern, identical to your own, and you recognize the face. It is old, worn with wrinkles with a pair of glasses and a tattered lab coat draped over his body covered in blood, crusted and dry, a gaping wound on his neck having long since run dry.

You look back at the figure as your eyes meet. Your hesitant step is matched by his, but his face is stern, looking into you judgingly.

"You are you, and why are you here?" He says. There is a strange firmness to the air in front of you, as if he stands just beyond a massive pane of glass. It seems to shudder at your perception of it.

>Answer (write in)
>Who are you?
>Touch the glass in front of you
>Attempt to smother the lantern
>Other

>>3015292
Someone, almost undoubtedly the First Queen, invited him here as a messenger.

This place is safe from the enemy's intrusions.

Do you think Grandma would do anything worse than an ultimately harmless practical lesson on spying from the dark.

>>3015291
It's had me suspicious since it sounded like it was dangling bait.

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You guys lack the paranoia already? Is this because we are not playing as the Queen?

>>3015309
Well we're only in the most dangerous location of the universe on a journey that could determine the fate of the Red Hive.

>>3015306
>Answer (write in)
A blind servant sent to search the land of the dead.
>Attempt to smother the lantern

>>3015306
Someone seeking answers. Who are you?
Also the fact that
>Attempt to smother the lantern
is a premade option has me concerned.

>>3015306
>"You are you,

Yes, I am I.

>>3015306
>>3015316
Wait, are we smothering our lantern or his? Because if its the latter that may come off as hostile.

>>3015306
>Who are you?
>>3015316
The answer is simple. Light attracts things and there could be something showing up soon.

>>3015318
It's not him that's retarded. We know explicitly it can't be him.

I'm thinking it was a mirror Seiner or something, since the gaping neck wound kinda calls back to that time when we sawed his head off.

>>3015319
>He is holding the lantern, identical to your own, and you recognize the face. It is old, worn with wrinkles with a pair of glasses and a tattered lab coat draped over his body covered in blood, crusted and dry, a gaping wound on his neck having long since run dry.


I guess this isn't Emmerich but the Seiner. The one that was killed. Seiner 2.0 said he had doubts if he was still that Seinner i guess it's one of those things.


>Answer (I'm here looking for anwser)

>>3015306
Wait... 'you are you' was a typo for 'who are you'?

>Answer (write in)
Don't you already know? I'm you, though I can't be sure, philosophers would dispute the point. I'm here to learn, the Queen sent me.

We're just talking to the face of Seiner 1.0 guys. Cmon. It's obvious.

>>3015328
It's Seiner 1.0

>>3015324
Yeah i realized that was stupid just after it came out of my fingers.

So QD how did that conflict with Emmerich end?

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>>3015191

>>3015306
>Who are you?

>>3015353
It hasn't even begun yet, from a certain point of view.

Just wait for Sunday like a good cliffhanger geez. We may have more rolls to go before he's banished back to the darkness whence he
came.

>>3015354
I have to say I appreciate the filename of this and that you post it in every thread.

>inb4 the psionic isulation we put around the ship makes so the psionic jammer doesn't effect him

Well at least we don't have any Valens in the resort yet so it shouldn't be too damaging.

>>3015368
SPORES how do they work?

Rolled 25 (1d100)

>>3015306
>Attempt to smother the lantern
>>3015314
Support

>>3015369
How bad of a trip you think the Valen will get if they smell the psionic spores?

>>3015314
>>3015316
>>3015374
Humans can “see in the dark” so smothering the lantern makes some sort of sense, but it will be difficult enough to light it again we may wish to wait before committing to this.

>>3015306
Also
>>Answer (write in)
I'm a creation of [the White Queen's name, but in tachyons]. So were you once.

>>3015386
Wonder if this will be a simbology about "passing the lantern".

>>3015386
It says 'attempt' for a reason.

Seiner is probably on safety rails right now for good reason. His path has been prepared for him.

>>3015395
>safety
>in a Halloween thread
Pick one.

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Hell yeah! TIme to bring out the photos in the Bone Zone!

>>3015395
Never assume you are on rails such that you can’t fuck up in a quest. It leads to bad things.

>>3015412
Seiner is in a little cart that's riding along the rails through a spooky house full of ghost exhibits to spook him and teach him lessons. He's safer than he ever was when Emmerich was still hunting for him. He's in Grandma's loving yet terrifying care.

The bad shit will be when he leaves and rides heroically to rescue the damsel from the dastardly Winston Emmerich.

>>3015306
>>Who are you?

>>DO NOT attempt to smother yet. It may make the entity flee or turn hostile before we can question it.

>>3015314
Highly appropriate, support

>>3015314
>A blind servant sent to search the land of the dead.
This is also good

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>>3015306
>Who are you?
Smothering something that might be there for our benefit before we find out what it is isn't a good idea

>>3015306
You look the figure back in the eyes. You recognize the face, although his injuries make it hard to tell. You steady yourself. You can think of a number of responses, but you hesitate.

"I think... that depends." You say, more to yourself than the figure. "But I'm here for answers."

"Information is costly." The figure says back. "Receiving what we think we want changes us. Many times, we are not the same person we were at the beginning."

"I know." You say back. "I've paid that price, only to realize I was toiling after a shadow the whole time." You look to the flame in your lantern. The figure seems to smile, the shadows of your flames leaving long streaks over his face as you hold your hand closer to the small lanter, opening the glass door on its side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=breVuXLuKUc

"Are you sure that is wise?" The figure says. "It is dark here."

"It doesn't matter." You say. "I think I've been blind this whole time, and just never knew it."

You pinch out the flame with a stinging burn in your hand, and both lanterns go dark. The cold returns, growing now as if the air around you is freezing solid. It aches like an old wound, deep in your bones, and as everything goes dark, you drop the lantern, its handle too cold to touch. You don't hear it hit the ground, and as you reach out for it you can't find it. You begin to panic in the pitch blackness, and as you feel over the ground you stumble for a moment, and you catch a glimpse of motion as you fall to the ground, your eyes pinched shut.

You look out again, only to see nothing, but there is a sensation beyond the darkness. You blink, trying to clear your eyes to gain some perception beyond the endless shadow, and something beyond it responds, shifting to your movements. You close your eyes fully again, standing up as you can feel your mind pull in a strange new perception, images, motion, thought, all shifting before you. You feel the shifting structure around you, rotting, decaying, and growing. Its structure is expanding like a dying star inflating before its implosion, its final gasps only accelerating its death. The realization comes to you without an understanding of how, its composition felt like a phantom limb you've never had to begin with, and before you, deep within the halls of its structure, there is something.

There is more motion. What you thought a wall shifts, and moves, its entire structure crawling down a distant corridore as the trailing portion of some great entity vanishes into the twisting labyrinth of its layer, its movements shaking the whole structure, sending reverberations through your very mind, and yet it feels empty, like the shed skin of a snake given life of its own. A shadow broken away from its master, and as it leaves, a strange light follows it, casting long shadows along the walls behind it.

>Follow the creature
>Call out to it
>Attempt to head the creature off ahead of it
>Other (write in)

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>>3015458
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=breVuXLuKUc
>gif related

>Follow the creature

Rolled 13 (1d100)

>>3015458
>Attempt to head the creature off
For Mother!

>>3015458
>>Follow the creature
>>Stick to the shadows away from the light

>>3015458
>follow after it from the shadows

>>3015458
>follow in shadows.

Shadow hide you siener

>>3015458
>Follow the creature

>>3015458
>>Follow the creature
SNEAK SNEAK SNEAK.

>>3015458
>follow in shadows

SEINER IS SNEAKING FOR MOTHER!

>>3015499
>>3015493
Don't forget to use inside voices like Mother taught you!

>>3015458
>>Follow the creature

>>3015458
>Follow the creature
>Other (Use the darkness to keep yourself hiden and don't breath)

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>>3015458

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkKQ_R4b53E

You follow the creature, trailing the light cast by its strange, empty shadow, your own form moving between dark crevasse in the walls, shifting between the darkness of the moving crystal structures around you. You quickly reach a new chamber, impossibly large, it folds in on itself, like countless rooms stacked together in the same space. It is built like a hollow tower, its walls an endless arrangement of empty archways where ruined husks stand like rotted tree trunks, hollowed out with age. The walls, great pillars of shifting crystal, flitter and shift like a series of flowing mirrors, carrying within them new images as they spin, showing new walls, new layers of archways, and yet more empty, rotted stumps of decayed bone.

In the center is an obelisk of seemingly endless size, stretched up through the tower like a massive spine. The light dances at its base, as something is seen curled around it. It shifts, moving in a spiraling motion around the central spine as a set of great arms each out, their clawed fingers gripping the walls as the body floats behind a vast headcrest. It emerges from the pit of the tower bellow you, emerging like a vast snake coiling through the air as its hide trails behind it like tattered robes. What was once an egg sac hangs behind it, the front half a torn and tattered collection of cloth-like flesh, dried and rotted, leaving the whole abdomen hollow and empty. A strange light emanates from within it, illuminating the remaining skin like a tattered lamp shade as it flows behind the figure's body.

You feel its mind, a soft, almost meditative hum, like breathing. It flows over the space around you like flooding water, filling every crevasse as the crystals continue to shift and move, but you see now how they are all connected, the same structure in different places, held together by a scaffolding of thought held as parts of a singular whole. Every part of the structure stemming from the singular entity like a spider's web leading into its center, all of it tied together along its headdress, almost supporting it like a marionette.

"I am the First." She says. "You are the one that was sent?" It feels less like a question and more a statement, as if scripted and rehearsed.

>I am
>Answer other (write in)
>Ask a question (write in)

Also please forgive any momentary delays as I sporadically hand out candy. Shouldn't be too many left out there at this point.

>>3015637
>>I am

>>3015637
"I am the First." She says. "You are the one that was sent?"
Oh shit it’s grandma!

>>3015637
>I am

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>>3015637
>>I am

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Fuck, someone just rang my doorbell and I didn't get any candy...

>>3015637
>>I am
>Ask a question (write in)
Why does the void seek to destroy your kind? What caused the war in the beginning?

And most importantly, can their vision and influence be countered or otherwise contained?

>>3015637
>I am

I wonder if this is really something we can trust.

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>>3015637
>>I am
>>Answer other (write in)
"Knowledge is a weapon in this war. And those with knowledge are the most vulnerable. But one cannot win this through ignorance alone. How did this all begin?"

>>3015637
>>Answer other (write in)
>I am sent by the daughter of the ones you sent
Hi Granny!

>>3015637
>Request her knowledge
This is most important thing we can get from her.

>>3015637
>>I am

>>3015637
>>Ask a question (write in)
Are you really the first? None were ever older than you?

Where are we? This place is old, but the doorway carved into it that i took, that the lantern I was given led to...

That looked new.

Why is nobody going for requesting the knowledge of the tech of the Ancient Hives?

>>3015668
I'll support that.

>>3015674
It's dangerous, anon. And we'll likely get the chance later.

>>3015678
How the fuck is it dangerous? We need that shit the most.

>>3015674
We are.>>3015657
>>3015659
>>3015662
>>3015668
We're just being slightly poetic about it, but we're keeping our eye on the goal here.

>>3015674
We literally just met her. At least let her say more than a sentence before asking for shit.

>>3015637
>>Ask a question (write in)
Are you...alive, in the usual sense of the spacetime I came from?

I saw what happened to your vassals. The ancient Queens. I didn't see what happened to the White Queen this year, or the Black Queen 70 thousand years ago.

Is the White Queen somewhere here, the way you are?

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>>3015674
>>3015679

calm your tits anon, we'll get there eventually.

>>3015683
That shit isn't even that valuable compared to some of the other stuff they have.

>>3015679
Well thought-constructed machinery generally has the potential to be dangerous. Especially when your enemy(ies) are known to come after thought-constructed machinery.

>>3015674
Stop being retarded and eat some candy anon sweet crystal jesus.

All that ancient knowledge was technically already passed down to the White Queen, who passed it down to us. We are unlocking it as we speak, bit by bit.

>>3015684
We kind of are already doing that though. People are already leaning toward getting stuff from her instead of introductions.
>>3015693
We understood none of that shit. It's fucking useless in it's current state. Getting her help makes it all instantly useful however.

>>3015698
>People are already leaning toward getting stuff from her instead of introductions.
its pretty much just you, anon.
Poster IDs are a thing in this board.

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On a unrelated note. I just found the Hive most recent product

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>>3015698
>>3015698
We're asking her for history, not technological data. Getting to know her a bit before putting the moves on. Just let it flow.

>>3015706
I thought multiple people were asking for information from her.

>>3015698
This ghost is dying. This entire palace is dying, giving what help it can before it crumbles and shatters. Whatever help she can give us, she's going to give us whether we ask for it or not.

But it almost assuredly won't make Seiner an instant expert in multi-dimensional physics. This shit will probably take time even with accelerated boost from the wisdom of the First.

I guess we can cross our fingers and hope this place is like a hyperbolic time chamber.

>>3015637
>Write in: I am the creation of your daughter the White, and a child of her daughter, the Red. I come seeking knowledge. Can you help me?

>>3015637
So this is Mt. Olympus, where the gods once reigned.

>>3015709
Whatever. I have a sense of urgency to get this shit done now since there is a ghost fucking shit up in our house and we can't afford to waste time.

>>3015710
You bet we are, but we figure QD wouldn't cock block us with a single chance to ask the First a question then shut out any chance to retrieve vital technology from her. Most Every ancient being we've touched base with so far in this quest has given us multiple chances to interact with them.

Besides, the First herself was waiting eons here for this singular event. I highly doubt she let Siener go without bestowing upon him the vital knowledge needed to win this war.

>>3015733
What is time really? Does the concept of "time" truly have any meaning in this place?

Christ, the halloween color sceme is hurting my eyes. Is it for everyone or is it 4chanX exclusive?

>>3015733
Seiner doesn't even know about Emmerich yet, and time passing is probably very relative here.

There's no advantage in rushing it. No one understands the urgency at work here better than Grandma. She knows the score already and won't waste time.

>>3015737
I don't want test it since now isn't the time for that.
>>3015746
At this point we are just dancing with word waiting for QD to post.

>>3015637
Stare into the light in her shattered eggsac. "What did they do to you?"

>>3015745
EVERYONE. I have no idea how to shut this ugly shit off.

>>3015745
Its bearable for me, can't you just change the theme?

>>3015763
I dunno about 4chanx, but on the usual site...
>Scroll all the way down
>Lower right corner you have a "Style" drop down menu
>Select a style other than default (I like "Tomorrow")
>>3015761
An excellent question.

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>>3015637
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nonGP8Q2dHs

"I am" You say back. Her mind seems to pull back, not away from you, if anything you feel dragged in with it, like a sudden rush of air as you feel the outer layers of the vast palace of thought you are in suddenly die and freeze over. The remaining parts seem to warm and grow brighter. Her form shifts, swimming through the air like a sea serpent through an unseen fluid as she coils around you, spiralling downwards as her head grows closer. Thoughts coalesce like a thick mist, quickly condensing into something approaching matter. Her form is still there, yet she is also a new being. A tall and slender woman, her face pale and old with skin that seems almost translucent and a dress of tattered, gossamer wings. Her eyes are empty orbs of vibrant stars, like windows into distant nebulae where pulsing stars and the roaring plasma fields of stars-yet-to-be pulse with energy, forming, dying, and bursting in moments. Her gaze becomes locked onto you, and you feel as if you could almost fall into it.

"Are you really? The First Queen I mean. It's just a title isn't it?" You ask. A part of you wonders if it question would be taken as rude. The Queen you know is an odd being in that respect, but this is a very special situation.

"I was not the first to call myself Queen." She says. "I was the first to ascend, and take my species up from the mud in which we began. I did not discover the process by which to do this, but I was the one to master it."

"So you developed space flight for your species? I'm not sure I understand." You reply.

"You presume I am using metaphor." She replies. In her eyes, the constellations begin to collapse, imploding and colliding as the brightest stars form together, suddenly bursting into a black hole in the center, forming like pupils in her eyes as the nebulae spins around it in bright colors. "I am not. I was the first to reach beyond our constraining dimensions. My mind became a beacon to which our species was drawn, guiding them in from the dark chaos of mortality. I became one of the Three, the head of a vast empire, and a god of this galaxy, seeding life, protecting it, nurturing it, and reaping it when necessary."

"Are you still...." You stammer, thinking of how to say it properly. You are no longer sure of what is possible here. "Are you really here? Still alive?"

"I am, as all things are." She replies. "My mind was not held wholly within real space, but had expanded into the Void. When my body was destroyed, this fragment remained. My roots were cut, but my branches live, for a time. I am not what I was, and I will become less still. I stay here for my task, to see my plans fulfilled and my children live. I have seen you, Adam Seiner. Your kind hold an importance in this task. There were many humans who stood before me in the many branches I have seen, but when they collapsed together, it was you."

>Ask about the past
>Ask about the Void
>Other

>>3015768
Thanks, I rarely care about style since this is the only board I ever visit anymore.

>>3015761
I would second this question

>>3015773
>Ask about the Void
>Ask about the past
>Request her assistance

>>3015773
>>Ask about the past
>>Ask about the Void

>>3015773
>>Ask about the Void
What are they? What started this war between us?

>>3015773
>>Ask about the past
>>Ask about the Void
>>Other: Stare into the light in her shattered eggsac. "What did they do to you?"

>>3015791
Supporting

>>3015791
Sphere people but Seiner wouldn't know.

>>3015773
Not Grandma, but Grand Matriarch.
>Ask about the past
Especially the other three. What made the Cluster a force that could equal someone like the First, and what of the Silicone as well?
>Ask about the Void

>>3015773
>Ask about the Red Queen

Is there anything special about her? Was she always meant to be? Or is she merely happenstance and any could have done her task?

>>3015796
She just said what happened to her. Her body was destroyed.

>>3015801
I like it.

>>3015801
This is pretty good too

>>3015802
Yeah, I realized that after I posted previously.

>>3015773
>Ask about the past
>Other: (How do i block someone that is able to reach the world from the 4th dimension!!)

>There were many humans who stood before me in the many branches I have seen, but when they collapsed together, it was you.

Well ain't that something.

>>3015801
I like this too. Are we the Feral child, the seed of our reborn species, or the last queen to fight this war, or all of the above?

>>3015773
>>Ask about the past

Also, Granny Firstie, uh. when we say 'the Void' do we mean... the place that we are? outside the 3 dimensions? Or do we mean the enemy. The term is so ambiguous. Which one should we use? Does the enemy have a better name.

Also, that neutral party, the Cluster. I've gotten a trickle of information on them from the Red Queen. Did they exceed the hives in biological mastery? Did they have applications of psionics or FTL that you lacked?

>>3015815
Remember that this is the realm of dreams. It makes sense that beings existing here can see quantum improbability. Luckily that shouldn't help them predict things much.

>>3015827
Every space faring race has their own unique form of FTL.

>>3015815
We technically already know how to block him. The damn Psionic Shroud. It was super effective.

Or, you bodily drag them back into the 4th dimension yourself. Since Seiner is gonna learn how to do that too.

>>3015773
>>Ask about the Void

>>3015865
The WQ's ghost basically told us the shroud was a good idea, but that it wouldn't last forever. We need something that will remove the
>You feel the notice of a distant mind
debuff

>>3015838
Seiner is an improbability like no other. He's the son of the person who built the first functional psionic cannon, a clone created by the Red Queen, the only human alive to speak with the White Queen (her shade techanically), and now he speaks with the First Queen. At this point Seiner should be a believer of fate.

>>3015878
>son
Wait, I think it's actually grandson.

>>3015865
>Or, you bodily drag them back into the 4th dimension yourself. Since Seiner is gonna learn how to do that too.

Now i'm picturing Emmerich and Seiner having a fight just like Neo and Smith from the Matrix.

>>3015878
*Grandson

>>3015881
it is grandson

>>3015878
Seiner is the new Jesus, he even died and was reborn again. Lee is just the hive prophet.

>>3015878

What is fate, if not the planned events ordained by omnipotent and omniscient cosmic beings?

>>3015883
Probably while shifting in and out of space on the Builder's Legacy, with fitting boss fight music provided by black metal bands.

I too am curious what more cultured Queens would think of the Red Queen, my guess is that she'd be considered stunningly competent but also a fucking clown who devotes a worrying amount of time to playing in dirt with beasts and dead things like Theseus.

>>3015888

He died as a man, and was reborn in the heart/soulwomb of a Not-Yet-A-God.

>>3015898
There's even a good argument to be made for him having been reborn to atone for the sins of his people.

>>3015888
I'm guessing Theseus wouldn't be super fond of Seiner becoming the new Jesus considering he insisted we kill his Dad. Hopefully in his "reborn" form Seiner and Theseus can find reconciliation.

>>3015897
They'd probably consider her a savant when it comes to research and highly competent militarily, but an uncultured feral child when it comes to tolerating the insults and disobedience of the younger races.

>>3015904
We could just ask SQ what they would think.

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>>3015878
>>3015888
>Both were respected Union Scientist
>Seiner was obsessed with finding out the truth behind what happened to his Grandfather on the moon
>Emmerich was a nutjob who spent too much time with the Void
>Both were remade and reborn by the things that killed them; Us with Seiner and Emmerich becoming a Void Walker after being pulled into the Void Crystal
>Seiner finally saw the light and is trying to atone for his sins
>Emmerich went cuckoo and is furthering the goals of the Void Gods

>>3015895
>>3015883

>Emmerich and Seiner having a fight just like Neo and Smith from the Matrix.
>Probably while shifting in and out of space on the Builder's Legacy, with fitting boss fight music provided by black metal bands.

It's like pottery.

>>3015904

Ah, I am rather convinced that Theseus as he is now wouldn't be terribly bitter about Seiner. I mean, Theseus has factual, absolute evidence that hostile existential threats exist, and for a human, a Rogue AI classifies, even if it was later disproved through Theseus' own actions and thoughts, the logic is sound.

>>3015895
It hadn't even occurred to me that the Seiner-Emmerich fight is going to have Ceph-Valen Death Metal as its soundtrack.

>>3015895
Man that is do rad. Shifting in and out of the station pulli g each other and punching or using psionics while the burning Jupiter on the background.

Shit would be fucking metal.

>>3015904
Eh Elizabeth forgave him i believe Theseus would too.

>>3015904
Imagine if the Hive ever co-researched fourth dimensional shenanigans with the Unity, we'd be pretty much obligated to send in Siener to direct the effort.

It'd be the most awkward family reunion in galactic history.

>>3015910
QD confirmed for George Lucas. So this is what he meant by "home videos that no one will see"

>>3015911
Besides Theseus has proven to be way better then most humans about certaing stuffs. I know he might be a little bitter at first but i think he will ultimatly forgive Seiner.

>>3015773
"One of three, but what about the other two?" You ask. You've felt this knowledge from the Hive before, this talk of the ancient Three, the precursor races of the galaxy. "And how did this go so far? The Void, the war, all of this destruction?"

"They are..." The First coils her body, taking flight above as if finding the topic painful to speak of. "The cost of our victory." She finishes. Her arm reaches down to you, as her slender, spectral form reaches out with her hand, her great claw reaches through it, poth touching your forehead at once as your mind falls away, as if a pit had opened beneath you.

You are suddenly elsewhere. Many countless millennia ago. You see a circle of Queens around a crystal, their thoughts focused upon it as its structure inverts, its mass expanding into another space as its form turns black and obscuring, its surface reflecting nothing. You can see it further though, its form reaching out, slicing across spacetime like a dagger and plunging into the heart of some unseen life form elsewhere in spacetime. There is a mental scream, a sudden sense of agonized panic and the fear of imminent death, and as the crystal begins to shift, like a twisting knife, the mental cry dissipates, its source smeared across the Void like an afterimage stretched across a photosphere of a singularity. The sense shakes you, piercing your mind like a hot needle as the scream echoes in your head.

"We did not start the War, but we finished it." She says. There is a shame to her voice. "We reached through the shadows and struck at our enemy's minds, flaying their thoughts and souls. They fled their space, wounded and afraid. We were victors, but our knowledge came with a terrible cost, one that all the galaxy would be made to pay."

"They used it against you, then?" You ask. "They found out your tech and counter attacked?" The spectral form of the First shakes her head, her eyes glowing with an aura of sadness, hanging along the glowing eyes like tears.

cont.

>>3015921

>It's happening

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>>3015921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcxle_sS8jY

"No." She says. "I warned them this was a dark path. They claimed I was greedy, unfit to rule. They could not see what I saw. That their path would fray our minds and descend us all into chaos. The Queens were hungry, powerful things. I could not give them the temperament and patience that comes with knowing weakness, and so they were vengeful gods. They saw this place as their fortress and their weapon. Once it began, there was no path to stop it left open to me. I had failed, and we paid for the blood we shed."

You feel the memory before you see it. The shrieking voices of a thousand Queens as a shifting form of crystal falls from the sky, impacting the ground as the First Queen struggles to think, her drones collapsing around her, their glittering bodies and advanced technology useless as their minds are left blank. The First Queen's mind begins to crumble, tattering at the edges, as she focuses her conscious into a single form, directing all force into the one , infinitesimal point.

The Palace of Thought, the vast, non euclidean fortress at the center of the Hive's vast empire, implodes. A singularity engulfs the continent, tearing the planet asunder as its gravitational axis is suddenly shifted, its atmosphere igniting from the force as its crust upends. Her mind becomes clear, frozen in a moment of infinite time at the brink of oblivion, the thought construct around her calcifying with stubborn pride and hope.

>>3015914
She hasnt forgiven him, she just recognizes that he is now irreplaceable. We still need to have another talk about even though we can regrow body parts for him so maiming him wont be permanent, its the principle of the action that makes it bad. Is it ok for me to beat the shit out of a sibling as long as there is no permanent damage? Fuck no. I think Theseus' reaction to his survival will be more...interesting.

>>3015927
>tfw everyone around you is a retard and fuck everything up but you can't be really mad because in the end you allowed them to reach this point.
I know this feeling.

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>>3015927
>The Void Gods are actually Queens who have gone mad with power.
Please tell me i'm wrong

>>3015942
They aren't.

>>3015927
I can see how the Ancient Queen's use of the void precipitated their own downfall, but I fail to see why the First feels as though it was instrumental in their own destruction. They used a terrible weapon against their foes, which was in turn turned against them, but is that really all that happened?

It sounds to me like the use of the Void caused their minds to fray in ways that go beyond merely being blinded by pride.

>>3015942

Dude, ever since we met our horrific cousins we've known the Void Gods were family, distant cousins at the very least, this just means that they were actually our great aunts all along.

>>3015942
You're wrong. We know they're the third race.

>>3015909
She's our daughter and our subject. It'd be hard to find a more biased witness, although if we ask her to be honest she probably would be.

>>3015921
>>3015927
Well that's interesting, the First Queen pulled the same hiding in the void trick we thought the "Void" did.

Also, it's good to know we didn't start this war, I was worried about that.

>>3015942
It is starting to sound as if the hatred, greed, and arrogance of the queens crystalized into what the Void now is. The Schism was a schism BETWEEN the queens, the war ended much sooner.

Oh well...time to become a kin slayer i guess.

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I don't think that I've pressed the "Update" button this much in a looong time.

So, new theory (which could prove to be completely wrong with time): The Queens won the war against the Sillicates, where the Cluster was neutral. However, the great costs of the war lead the first queen to lose control and several of the remaining queens went mad with power and became the Void. The "Schism" has nothing to do with the sillicates - it refers to the civil war between the "queens" that followed.

>>3015990
Actually I think we are missing some information here.

>>3015927
Did she... just create a black hole with the power of thought? God damn

>>3015990
>>3015996
Well it does seem to explain why the Void would just discard their psionically controlled silicate machines and start using organic slave species, when they had perfectly useable servants beforehand.

The Void aren't the Silicates.

>>3015996
I agree we don't have enough information to conclude this yet. Perhaps with time we will figure this out.

>>3015999
Agreed.

The name "schism" also makes more sense to refer to a civil war instead of a war between different species anyways.

Also, it helps to explain why so much silicate stuff is left lying around mostly functional. The actual silicates were all killed with precision attacks using void shards, but they left lots of their toys lying around.

>>3015990
After seeing the prevalence of silicate based life on Nowhere and P2, I've got to say I find this theory extremely improbable. The silicates have been associated with the Void as far back as they were both brought up. The only way we could link rogue Queens to our enemy was if the rogue Queens turned THEMSELVES into silicates, and used that technology to slaughter their biological relatives.

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>>3015927

The memory rips at your mind, tearing at you like the whipping winds of a tornado. As it abades, you realize you have collapsed to the ground, your hands clasped around your head tightly. The throbbing pain is gone, the agonized screams quiet, yet they still haunt you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAfmvuobv-s

"This was the Schism. In truth, it began before the War ended, the moment members of our kind chose to use the Void as their weapons and taint it with war. I warned them, but they could not understand the weave of the universe." You see a branching tree, stretching up and into infinity, its many branches splitting off endlessly. You try to see them, each one holding some strange universe of possibilities, and then you watch the circle of Queens lash out into the Void, their crystal folding into it and away from real space, and the branches begin to die, rapidly collapsing. Paths of incomprehensible potentials, falling into splinters, until there is but a single path, a branch reaching upwards into infinity through space and time, where the Schism grows, the First Queen is killed, and the Void becomes at fortress of hatred and bile, of a petulant demand for control even as the galaxy descends into chaos.

But there is also another, so small you missed it. The First Queen reaches out to it, holding it delicately in her hands. It is not so much a branch as a twig, tiny, delicate, and glowing vibrantly with hope. You look into it, and like a fractal form it expands, now a full tree with its own branches. You see the Ark launching, the Skyl revolt, you continue to follow, racing through the past as more branches collapse with ever choice, shunting you along a singular line of reality. The White Queen isolates herself as the Black Queen plots with the crystals, her own penchant for violence taking her down dark, and similar roads. But she was not the first to attempt to walk that path, and now, there are others waiting for her at its sad end.

You see Earth, primitive man fleeing under the fires of a Hive fleet, their genetics reformed, culled as needed, pruned and shaped with care like a bonsai tree. You see the Union, the Confederation, the Colony Wars, and the Psionic Canon.

Millions of branches collapse, sealing off before you can catch a glimpse of their realities, and now so few remain. With that one weapon, the universe has been set onto a narrow path, one that ends in only one way.

You watch the White Queen die, and the tree seems to fall and die with her, but there is something new, a small seed thrown from its branches. It lands on a remote world, covered in thick fog and strange life, and from it, a new tree grows, an infinite tree standing tall like a great albion oak, its possibilities endless.

"It is here that there is hope." She says, looking at the crimson tree, its bark covered in blood red scars and growing layers of moss, its trunk host to creatures living within.

cont.

>>3016002
>The Enemy went a little crazy and turned the weapon use on them against the Hive empire.

But that's wrong. The First Queen explicitly says:
>"They used it against you, then?" You ask. "They [the silicates] found out your tech and counter attacked?" The spectral form of the First shakes her head, her eyes glowing with an aura of sadness,

>"No." She says. "I warned them this was a dark path. They claimed I was greedy, unfit to rule. They could not see what I saw. That their path would fray OUR minds and descend US ALL into chaos. The Queens were hungry, powerful things.

Sure as hell sounds like the queens minds frayed and they turned on each other. She explicitly says the the silicates did NOT discover the tech and counter-attack.

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>>3015998

>tfw you will never think so strongly that you end up creating a black hole.

>>3016002
>"They used it against you, then?" You ask. "They found out your tech and counter attacked?" The spectral form of the First shakes her head, her eyes glowing with an aura of sadness, hanging along the glowing eyes like tears.

>"No." She says. "I warned them this was a dark path. They claimed I was greedy, unfit to rule. They could not see what I saw. That their path would fray our minds and descend us all into chaos. The Queens were hungry, powerful things. I could not give them the temperament and patience that comes with knowing weakness, and so they were vengeful gods. They saw this place as their fortress and their weapon. Once it began, there was no path to stop it left open to me. I had failed, and we paid for the blood we shed."

Seems to imply otherwise.

>>3016005
I just checked the archives, Thread 66.3
>"The Schism began because the War ended." She says. "I was born to fight our current enemy. I know little of those who came before. I know there were the Three, and we were one of these Ancients. The galaxy was divided between us, and we held unquestioned dominion over it. In time, as it always does, conflict arose. I know one remained neutral, while the other fought with the Hive. Our kind won the war and drove them to their homeworld, but at a terrible cost. The details are lost to time, but the space we hold now was once theirs, and their silicate tools remain."

The silicate tools belong to their old enemy, but the WQ doesn't directly say that they were the same as the enemy that she was born to fight. That also implies that thye may be different entities altogether.

>>3016012
FUCKING CALLED IT

>>3016012
>She says, looking at the crimson tree, its bark covered in blood red scars and growing layers of moss, its trunk host to creatures living within.
All the other organisms that we have fostered and aided.

>>3016012
>You watch the White Queen die, and the tree seems to fall and die with her, but there is something new, a small seed thrown from its branches. It lands on a remote world, covered in thick fog and strange life, and from it, a new tree grows, an infinite tree standing tall like a great albion oak, its possibilities endless.
>"It is here that there is hope." She says, looking at the crimson tree, its bark covered in blood red scars and growing layers of moss, its trunk host to creatures living within.

Ah hell yeah, here is where we see the Red Queen in all her true glory. Infinite possibilities and a shelter for other creatures.

QD, I just have to say, your writing for this entire section has been just beautiful. Thank you.

>>3016012
>She says, looking at the crimson tree, its bark covered in blood red scars and growing layers of moss, its trunk host to creatures living within.
And this is how we appear to our own kin. The one who bore a great many calamities and bleed for it, and who carries lesser species forward to greater possibilities.

The poetry of your quest and writing never ceases to impress me QD. Bravo.

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>>3016012
i don't even..wow.

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Holy shit

>>3016020
Also the fact we aren't just covering every planet with Hive creep and tur ing it in basicaly a Hive only world.

>>3016012
But why does it seem so... cheeky

>>3016012
>"This was the Schism. In truth, it began before the War ended, the moment members of our kind chose to use the Void as their weapons and taint it with war. I warned them, but they could not understand the weave of the universe." You see a branching tree, stretching up and into infinity, its many branches splitting off endlessly. You try to see them, each one holding some strange universe of possibilities, and then you watch the circle of Queens lash out into the Void, their crystal folding into it and away from real space, and the branches begin to die, rapidly collapsing. Paths of incomprehensible potentials, falling into splinters, until there is but a single path, a branch reaching upwards into infinity through space and time, where the Schism grows, the First Queen is killed, and the Void becomes at fortress of hatred and bile, of a petulant demand for control even as the galaxy descends into chaos.
So the Void gods aren't the silicates and maybe not even the queens who used the void as a weapon but the void weapon itself animated due to the intent of the queens who used it?

>>3016031

So...


>"Evil didn't exist until man felt malice for one another."

Type situation.

>>3016032
Evil and malice seem to be the default state of every sentient organism that we know of.

>>3016012
>You see Earth, primitive man fleeing under the fires of a Hive fleet, their genetics reformed, culled as needed, pruned and shaped with care like a bonsai tree. You see the Union, the Confederation, the Colony Wars, and the Psionic Canon.
>Millions of branches collapse, sealing off before you can catch a glimpse of their realities, and now so few remain. With that one weapon, the universe has been set onto a narrow path, one that ends in only one way.

I don't know if this is just fluff describing how the Void intervened directly because of its firing, or if the psionic cannon literally bends spacetime and prunes alternate universes so that it'll only go down a specific path.

>>3016031
Might be, the WQ herself said that the OQ looking too deep into the Void led to her losing control of herself
>"Her mind is lost to madness." Your mother says. "She no longer holds sentience, but has become a drone herself. She is not the sister I once knew. You must kill her, not to avenge the lost Queens, but to give her mercy. Her actions were not her own."

>>3016031
Of course. We never really thought about it but if the void is the realm of thought why wouldn't it become what it's used for. The ancient hives created the weapons that disturbed the Warp and now we're fighting the chaos gods.

>>3016031
May I point out the homeworld of the Sphere people turned into that "thing." It's really unclear what exactly is the enemy.

>>3016035
A cannon powered on the destruction of an alternate universe. I like it.

>>3016035
It would explain the apaprent immunity of the enemy. It controls which realities collapse therefore the improbable of "no damage" becomes fact.

>>3016038
Could be just a red herring. We know that the Silicates fled to their homeworld, which is in this region, and it is apparently protected enough that the Ancient Hives' void weapon didn't reach them there.

The finished psionic cannon wouldn't be as crude and could control which realities collapsed instead of destroying them all.

>>3016029
BECAUSE IT WAS ALWAYS CHEEKY

EVER SINCE THE FIRST QUEENS LEARNED OF THE POSSIBILITIES OF THE VOID

AND LEARNED OF ALL THE LIFE THERE IS TO TROLL IN THE UNIVERSE

AS IT WAS, AS IT ALWAYS WILL BE

AS EVER THERE EXISTS A QUEEN, THERE SHALL BE CHEEKINESS IN THE UNIVERSE

>>3016035
The queens may have given the void substance and form by using it as a weapon against the silicates. When the void gained true sentience it turned on the Queens that used it the most, fed it with the greatest power, and seized them for itself.

>>3016038
The First Queen also turned herself into a black-hole to escape psionic weapons.

>its trunk host to creatures living within.

And now i'm thinking of Raligah, Phatoms, Skyl, Ceph, Taidaren all in miniatures inside of it and the Barren Queen like a small sprout hidding in the shade of our tree.

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>>3016041
>Enemy is a psychic entity that transcends spacetime and is impervious to all forms of harm
>Design a weapon that alters reality and sifts through every possible universe until it finds one where the enemy gets fucked up.

Jesus christ the poor silicates, this whole time we thought they were the enemy but the were victims the whole time.

Makes P2 the grave world we discovered seem forlorn almost.

>>3016062
They picked the wrong fight.

>>3016035
Its the white queen being a dick and eugenicsing early man with extreme prejudice.

This is interesting because this actualy points out an interesting limitation to the queens or at least the old queens where they seem to have a limited sense of causality as decisions once made prune their causal concept tree. Perhaps similar to the Bugers of Enders Game who when they change their mind on something they strait up forget that any previous contradictory decision is just forgotten or stricken from their conception.

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>>3016054
We are a point of infinite possibility that was spawned from two succesive times that the possibilities of the universe collapsed into a single outcome. WHen the void stares out at the future of the universe and smiles as it see but one outcome remaining, me drag our claw thru the sand, making another path. And when the void turns to us in a fury, we stare back at it, with a smile.

>>3016031
Aw fuck i just realized this proves the "Void gods are ancient AIs" theory slightly true, even if it was an accident.
May the Anon who came up with that theory please step up for well deserved bragging?

>>3016059
Don't forget the most important ones, the humans.

>>3016062
I guess it's like gradma said we didn't started the war but we will surely finish it.

>>3016072
It's wrong though. AI is manufactured not naturally occurring.

>>3016071
I've always believed that best response to maddened hatred is mocking derision.

>>3016069

Well.

I mean.

Our most basic method of Thought uses Faster than Light energies and particles. I imagine that "Time" as humans understand it means non-euclidean dick.

>>3016069
i think that was a mix of despair and old age i mean at least the Sacared queen thinks that we do things the way we do because we are so young.

Mostly i think that due to our wild nature we developed a absurd desire for research and that's why we preserve ecosystems because each planet may change or evolve on their on with time and create new knowledge and research.

At least that is my head canon.

>>3016074
Oh yeah...those too and soon also the Valen!!

>>3016094

There's also the early-youth experience of us trying to be covert and trying to not trigger the, at the time, incredibly dangerous native wildlife, so it put an emphasis on working WITH the ecosystem in our mentality.

Remember when our Drones were cordyceps'd? We were afraid that getting rid of the things responsible would Summon Bigger Fish in addition to being incredibly obvious.

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>>3016012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFQQsVsPFv4

You look through the branches. The tree is still full, but there are a few branches that have collapsed, a few possibilities locked away, for better or ill. You see war, destruction, death, from all forms of life. Yet also there is patience.

You see in one branch as Gemini burns. A million drones descend upon the planet's surface as Union warships fall from the sky in chunks, their drives igniting and immolating the landscape in the quantum fire of hawking radiation before consuming themselves in a spectacular death.

In another, hive fleets intermingle with the vast cylinders of server ships, atomic warheads flashing like lightning bugs in the night between them. You turn, and another branch shows Valen merchant warships bursting open as a hive fleet boards a hypergate before a moment later it ignites into a deliberate containment breach, the vast amounts of energy held within bursting forth and wiping out vast swaths of both fleets.

You turn again, and you see yourself. The strange planet of the Red Queen under your feet. Something is different here. You see yourself in a panic, a CIP pistol in hand as a hive warrior tears open the primitive sponge-like shelter of your camp and tears open your throat. More follow behind, filling the shelter as they devoir the rest of the team. You shut your eyes, and as you open them a moment later you see the planet burning, the first wave of a planetary invasion throwing itself uselessly against wave after wave of drones.

"There were so many ways she could have fallen into our bad habits. To think herself above all other life." The First says. She turns to you, and quickly corrects herself. "She is, as is the nature of a Queen, but there is a difference between being greater, and thinking yourself greater. She knew weakness, and it has tempered her in a way no other Queen has been since myself. Other Queens must learn this through failure, but she has struggled for life, and so she values it." She pulls on a branch, bring it to prominence as you watch the end of a brief fight between some humans and a terrible beast. Time passes in a flash, and you see several drones carrying the bleeding human away.

"This is my favorite moment." She says. "It was so necessary. The creature so meaningless." You watch the flashes of tangential branches where the human is consumed, dissected, or interrogated in various combinations, only to watch as the drones provide food and shelter to the wounded human, and carry him back to camp where you see your own self in a past life look upon the drone with cruel, suspicious eyes, unaware of the true potential of what controls it.

"When the hive saved Lee." You say.

"Yes. Any other Queen of my generation would see no value in such a creature. Everything was a tool to them, made to serve their hive either by its life or by its death. That is the mindset that sent them to look upon the Void with violent intentions."

cont.

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>>3016110
>"There were so many ways she could have fallen into our bad habits. To think herself above all other life." The First says. She turns to you, and quickly corrects herself. "She is, as is the nature of a Queen, but there is a difference between being greater, and thinking yourself greater. She knew weakness, and it has tempered her in a way no other Queen has been since myself. Other Queens must learn this through failure, but she has struggled for life, and so she values it." She pulls on a branch, bring it to prominence as you watch the end of a brief fight between some humans and a terrible beast. Time passes in a flash, and you see several drones carrying the bleeding human away.
>"This is my favorite moment." She says. "It was so necessary. The creature so meaningless." You watch the flashes of tangential branches where the human is consumed, dissected, or interrogated in various combinations, only to watch as the drones provide food and shelter to the wounded human, and carry him back to camp where you see your own self in a past life look upon the drone with cruel, suspicious eyes, unaware of the true potential of what controls it.
>"When the hive saved Lee." You say.
>"Yes. Any other Queen of my generation would see no value in such a creature. Everything was a tool to them, made to serve their hive either by its life or by its death. That is the mindset that sent them to look upon the Void with violent intentions."


Awww

>>3016116
She'd probably love the stories of Humanx Commonwealth.

>>3016110
And there are some people who hate Lee still.

mm mm mmm

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>>3016110
Alright folks you heard it here.

It's canon, Lee is best waifu.

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>>3016094
>>3016108
I now want Seiner to see us in this plane but have us completely changed from a massive read star to a small sad shy little girl holding a lighting bug lamp in one hand and a handmade bug net in the other.

At a hockey game rn which made me think. What if we made a sports team composed of clones? We'd make big credits with little investment

>>3016133
But they would win all the time against human teams.

To make it more exciting, multiple drone teams, each controlled by a quantum thinker. People would bet on which team would win against the other.

>>3016110
Man, imagine if all the "Cut his arms and legs off" anons had won their votes.

>>3016136
Replicant clones are no different than regular humans.

>>3016133
Grav ball is a thing...we should build a stadium in a space city one of these days. Just think of it? Playing grav ball in literal space!

Or at least the closest thing to it.

>>3016124
>>3016116
Kinda sad she didn't liked the scene of us saving our first thinker the one that drived our pod to the planet and we still have him in our Hive and take care of him.

>>3016139

Let's just hope she wasn't looking too closely when we mind-raped Lyle into joining us

>>3016130
Awww, that would be so cute.

We're still a very small tree, though, all things considered. We still have a universe to grow through.

>>3016139
Probably would have the quest end sooner, or at least be a lot more violent. I really like how the queen developed, though. I also really like how struggle and the value of life has tempered us. If we have any daughters, they should need to struggle and learn to value life as we and the scarred queen have.

>>3016142
except for their triplex-DNA which makes it easy to gene mod them to maximum legal physical ability. Pure humans would still have a chance to win but the odds would be stacked against them.

>>3016139
In some dimension they did.

>"You watch the flashes of tangential branches where the human is consumed, dissected, or interrogated in various combinations..."

>>3016148
Lyle attacked the Hive, butchered our children, and we didn't kill him and instead made him love us and grow stronger. That's pretty different from how most queens would treat a violent intruder I suspect.

>>3016142
Welp, misread the clone part.

>>3016139
>been with the quest since the first thread
>see the fruit of all our shitposting has slowly pushed us into the Good/Pragmatic path.

>>3016147
Itss different because the thinker was already part of our hive and had an immediate usefulness that was logically worth saving it.

Lee at the time was as burden and a possible threat to our very existence. The First Queen obviously doesn't put much stock herself in diplomatic points with the lesser species.

>>3016152
Only hybrids have triplex DNA. Replicant clones are pure humans to the core.

>>3016152
Do you not know what a replicant is or how cloning works? Replicants are no different than a vanilla humans.

>>3016148
Eh we could have just eaten him and done we decided to spare him and even gave him a steady job. We can even give him a allowance now that we have our own business.

>>3016110
You continue to watch branches collapse, further and further, until the tree is trimmed, but still filled with potential. Many of the paths end well short, but others continue out to infinity, far beyond your own horizon.

"I can see no further." She says. "My death has fixed my observations to a point in spacetime long past. The branches become too numerous beyond this moment, but your Queen, by child, can carry on this torch further still."

"Wait." You say, suddenly confused. "What do you mean death, what you said before-"

"Yes. Death is meaningless, we all continue to exist in our points of spacetime, but we can no longer create new branches. Our paths have all collapsed, and what remains is a line, running from birth to death, existing in its way for all eternity. This line is common to all things, living or not. My paths have been pruned, but my foresight of them allows me to influence them still."

"Are you saying you're... speaking to me from the past?" You ask. "And you've predicted all of this?"

"I have guided what paths I could, pruned those that would result in failure. I have done what I could. The White Queen knew this, in a fashion. I gave her a great cache of knowledge, filled with terrible secrets, among them the realization it was not her fate to live, but to build a foundation for chance at hope."

>Ask additional questions (write in)
>Ask about your abilities (write in)
>Ask more about the Red Queen (write in)
>Other

>>3016110
I wanna hear about the other members of the Three. It'd be great if we could bring the old gang back together.

>>3016139
You know what would be awesome once this quest wraps up? If QD did a couple of omakes of how this quest would have turned out if we had voted differently at key moments. What would have happened if we just ate Lee when we first met him? How would things have panned out if we immediately tried to open up ties with the Union, when we first had the chance? If we had warred against Theseus when his drones first came to us?

It would be like looking down a closed off branch, not unlike Siener is doing right now through the Void.

>>3015191
This just makes me wish we never killed Seiner. Kinda sad to think this is a clone.

>>3016152
Replicants aren't Hybrids anon.

>>3016161
>Ask additional questions (write in)
So how can we defeat the Void? What do we have to do?


>>3016165
Well his death pretty much meant that his rebirth as our clone had greater impact.

>>3016161
>Ask additional questions (write in)
Tell us more about the Three? Tell us of their past and potential futures.

>>3016161
>>Ask additional questions (write in)
>>Ask about your abilities (write in)
And what, if any caches of technology can you provide us? Can you show us how to use Void engineering without opening ourselves to attach from the Void?

>>3016165
There was no real hate behind but a request from an ally.
>>3016161
Let's ask about the homeworld of the third race and also get that sweet tech.

>>3016165
The way I resolve the mental clone issue is the same way I solve the Ship of Theseus issue. If the new iteration fills the same niche as the old and there is no competition for the spot, it is in all practicality the same as the old. If we mad another Seiner, then neither of them are in all practicality the old Seiner.

>>3016161
Seconding this >>3016170
We need more lore!

Also kinda unrelated: anyone up for converting the Scavs into a universal peacekeeper species instead of a raider species?

>>3016176
Well now that I think of it we are the Ancients the Scavengers worshipped, one of them at least.

>>3016161
>>Ask additional questions (write in) Is the Void...former queens? Fallen to rage and darkness? Turned into mere tools by tools they once themselves used to destroy?
>What does the psionic canon actually do?

>>Ask about your abilities (write in) How can we defeat the Void and the obsidian queen without falling prey to the same failings as the queens you once knew?

>>Ask more about the Red Queen (write in) Do you have any advice for us on the path? Are there any branches we should avoid?

>>3016161
>White Queen knew this, in a fashion. I gave her a great cache of knowledge, filled with terrible secrets, among them the realization it was not her fate to live, but to build a foundation for chance at hope.

oh...

>Ask more about the Red Queen (Why is she so different from the others? Was she altered like us humans wrre?)

>Ask about your abilities (What can i do to protect the Queen and avoid the tree from dying like the others?)

>Ask additional questions (will you still be here if i leave?)

>>3016176
They would need to pay for their crime first!

1 moderately sized couch as was promised.

>>3016180
The Scavengers probably worshiped the silicates before the ancient hives destroyed the silicates. They may be as much an enemy of the Void as we are ultimately, seeing as the Void was originally a tool of the ancient queens to destroy the silicates.

Now that I think of it can we pull souls from the Void?

>>3016189
The worship the "might makes right" thing the hive had going.

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>>3016130
Mang that's cute as hell

>>3016176
Well we already have a broodmother and a alpha...sooo we already have the tools to create our own pack.

>>3016188
But of course! Can't let them get away with our couch unfulfilled.

>>3016176
I would be completely down to turn the Scavs into a peace keeping, scouting force. All we'd have to do is genetically boost their sociability and intelligence and they would work out that maybe fighting everything and everyone you meet to death isn't a terribly smart way to go.

>>3016200
Why not take all control of the entire Armada?

>>3016161
>Ask additional questions
If the Void has been tainted, what needs to be done to 'un-weaponize' it?
How can I avoid the influence of these... things... that taint this dimension?
If death is meaningless... is my grandfather here somewhere?

>>3016181
>>3016186
Supporting both of these, they're both extremely relevant.

>>3016209
Support

>>3016209
Oh shit the temptation to leave the trail to fulfill a personal need at the expense of the greater goal.

>>3016206
All in due time, all in due time.

>>3016204
Why make the scavs a peacekeeping force instead of being peacekeepers ourselves? The amount of modification and resocialization we would have to do to the scavs would be on par with the white queen's genetic manipulations of the humans to change their society so much. It's a massive change. We could try, but it would be long term and in the meantime it's more cost-effective to produce our own ships.