Ten years ago, the warrior race known as the Saiyans were annexed into Emperor Freeza’s army. Since that fateful day, the Saiyans have earned the title of warrior race as Freeza’s soldiers, leading the charge onto hundreds of worlds and facing down all who oppose Lord Freeza’s rule. As mighty conquerors crushing all resistance, the Saiyans have earned their reputation as Freeza’s most powerful subjects.The larger than life tales of the Saiyans, and especially the Super Saiyans, have spread to most every corner of the universe now. With the Covenant’s failed 30,000-warship siege of New Salda televised live across much the civilized universe, most everyone now knows your name and exactly what you can do. You are idolized, loathed, adored, or feared by many different peoples across the universe. Welcome to Saiyan Conqueror Quest, currently Age 741, the ten-year anniversary of the Saiyans joining the PTO. You the players control Karn, a Saiyan with a base powerlevel of 1,291,000, a general in Lord Freeza’s army, mate to Meloka, father of Chaya, Chilli and Broly(adoptive), chosen champion of New Salda, an idol to the other Saiyans and the rest of the PTO, and, a household name across the universe.Character Sheet: https://pastebin.com/iPAJeGJnPowerlevels: https://pastebin.com/vPb0wswNArchive link: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?searchall=Saiyan+Conqueror+QuestQuest rules:>20 minute vote, 3 votes minimum>Only first 3 correctly rolled die count, best of the 3 wins>Crits are 100, unless otherwise stated>A 99 may net you an extra bonus on a roll>Crit fails will count ONLY if a 1 is rolled and no roll passes DC, OR two 1s are rolled within the 3 rolls>Two 1s will OVERRIDE a 100, resulting in crit failure>I hold final say on any/all decisions, I can and will use this power as-necessary.>Write-ins are both allowed and encouraged, but can be shut down if too meta or too out-of-established-chatacter>DO NOT DELETE YOUR POSTS! If you want to change your vote, post your new vote linking to the vote you’re changing. This simplifies things on my end and helps prevent vote miscounts>I can change any of the above rules at any time for any or no reason>Have funQuest will usually start every Saturday at 11am EST, and run throughout the entire weekend. Also, for updates or schedule changes follow me on twitter @GrandDragonQMCurrent Arc: The Gladiatorshttps://youtube.com/watch?v=ASu2Kl5ZL2w
>>3003384Last time, on Saiyan Conqueror Quest:You finally arrived at the Battledome, and you got to watch Chaya fighting in the arena! After three rounds of combat she engaged a young mage known as Megumin, and after defeating her she made her into a friend, much like yourself and Ubo. Unfortunately her summoned familiar acted as a portal for a portion of Trigon’s true power to be unleashed, and you were unprepared. Despite defeating the creature and banishing Trigon from it, his essence still tried to destroy you and Raven. Faced with overwhelming odds you went Berserk, only for Trigon to attempt controlling your mind. Thankfully Raven sent you through her portal before becoming corrupted as well, and thanks to Meloka and Chaya’s efforts Trigon’s incursion was stopped. The next morning, before you could go watch Chaya’s next matches you received a call from none other than Lord Boros himself! He wants you along on another extermination mission to destroy the immortal Kars, but first wants to measure your new power. As we rejoin Karn, you just broke this news to Vox and your kids.“Because I just got challenged to a rematch here at Dreadzone, in an arena of your choice in one month by Lord Boros.” you reply, everyone going silent for a moment. “And by someone else I fought before as well, a young man named Jotaro Kujo.”“Two opponents seeking rematches with you?” Vox says, pondering. “Yes, yes this could work! General Karn, taking on all challengers! Then when you defeat them all, drop your rematch challenge on the Arbiter as well! Perfect! Karn, you’re a raritanium mine! I’ll have to get the marketing team together, one month isn’t very long to plan this!”With that the screen goes dark, flying back up to Vox’s office in a hurry.“Daddy gonna fight too? Yay!” Chaya says, excited for you. “Are you gonna come watch me fight on Sarthos? Megu’s comin’, and Broly too!”“And me!” Chilli says, excited to go as well. “I wanna go see the Lebaithans!”Well?>Go with them and relax. You’re on vacation, why not spend some more time just being with the kids?>Go with them, but also work on your own training. Train your techniques and abilities, and perhaps learn something new>Stay here, but have Raven portal Chaya back and forth for you to train her>Stay here and focus on training yourself for your rematches, you still have to prepare for the Arbiter>Other(write in)30 minute vote
>>3003385>Go with them, but also work on your own training. Train your techniques and abilities, and perhaps learn something newWe are the best Saiyan papa
>>3003385What happened to Chomusuke after Trigon Time? He's a good kitty.
>>3003425He’s still on the ship. Raven managed to banish Trigon from him
Leaving vote open another ten minutes, giving more people time to vote
>>3003428Oh thank goodness. He's still a demon kitty, granted, but he can behave
>>3003385>Go with them, but also work on your own training. Train your techniques and abilities, and perhaps learn something new
>>3003385>Go with them, but also work on your own training. Train your techniques and abilities, and perhaps learn something newHonestly I'm waiting until Vegeta is free before we have a proper vacation
>>3003392>>3003434>>3003448Go with them, but also work on your own training. Train your techniques and abilities, and perhaps learn something new wins it. Writing.
>>3003448Maybe we could get him an assistant or something.
The only thing I'm really thinking on working on is our base strength, Su Ma, and possibly Berserk. Is there anything else we should work on?
>>3003467I think we had that energy body thing we never finished working on
>>3003496What if we tried to develop the Energy Drill?
>>3003496Right I forgot about that. I think we need a list of techniques we forgot to make in case there's more. I remember GD saying that something could be done with the energy body thing but my memory is really spotty right now.
>>3003385“Of course kiddo.” you say, ruffling her hair. She’s clearly excited, jumping up and down. After a moment, she turns and looks to Meloka.“Is Momma comin’ too?” she asks, Meloka shaking her head. “Awww.”“I gotta stay here Chaya.” Meloka says, Tatsu and Tomi pulling back to punch at each other again, Meloka holding the twins apart at arm’s length. “Someone’s got to stick around and make sure they fix the ship up right. And, keep an eye out for any more Lin Kuei.”“Wait...EMMY!!” Chaya shouts, grabbing Megumin and dashing back into the ship. “You gotta meet Emmy, she’ll be so...”She dashes back into the ship, doubtlessly to introduce Megumin and Emilia to each other. Broly just sighs out as she dashes off, he and Chilli looking to each other then following her. This leaves you, Meloka, Tatsu and Tomi all there alone.“She’s having fun here, isn’t she?” Meloka asks, you nodding in agreement and walking to her.“This will be a good place for her to train.” you say, putting an arm around her shoulders as little Tomi holds her arms up to you. You smile at your youngest daughter, grabbing her from Meloka with your free hand and holding her on your left shoulder. She giggles then sticks her tongue out at little Tatsu, your youngest son copying the gesture. You and Meloka laugh at the rivalry your youngest children have, sharing the moment of peace and calm. You both turn at the same time, sensing something approaching. You see a large transport ship, almost like a prison barge, fly down near your ship, coming to a halt in the air and shooting an odd light down onto a certain ring pattern on the ground. It seems that your ride is here.“Looks like it’s time for you to go.” Meloka says with a sigh, turning to you and kissing you. “If anything happens, let me know.”“I will.” you reply, kissing her again and thinking to Chaya, telling her the ship is here. “Keep an eye out too, I don’t think the Lin Kuei will give up on taking her so easily.”“She’ll be fine.” Meloka says with a laugh, shaking her head. “You should worry about your own wife a little more.”“Why should I worry about you, hun?” you ask her, confused. “You’re strong enough to tear this entire station and everyone in it apart. If anything, I should be worried for the poor bastard that manages to piss you off.”She just rolls her eyes at this, kissing you one last time as Chaya runs out excitedly, Megumin holding her hat tight to her head as she’s dragged out. You notice she’s also grabbed her summoned pet back, it meowing in protest at the speeds she’s traveling.“Yay! Time to go!”cont
>>3003536“Chaya, slow down!” Megumin shouts, getting dragged along by your energetic daughter. Broly and Chilli follow along, you releasing your wife as Raven walks out as well.“Just in case.” Raven replies, you nodding to her as the six of you all step into the circle. Everything glows bright for a moment, you all suddenly appearing inside the ship.“Contestant Chaya.... and guests.” the hulking receptionist robot says. “Scanning... Confirmed. VIP Room 3, here’s your key.”“Thanks!” Chaya says excitedly, taking the keycard from the robot and handing it to you. You tuck the card inside your left glove, Raven opening her own portal behind you all.“Need anything, just call me.” she says, stepping through.“Same here. Take care of everything for me.” you reply, Raven nodding then closing her portal behind her. Now there’s five of you. You have about a week before you arrive at Sarathos, what will you do?Well?(pick up to two)>Focus on finally mastering that Ki Body technique>Develop a new technique or two>Learn one or more of your allies techniques>Focus on teaching Chaya, Broly, and Chilli one or more of your own techniques>Try and get Cooler to begin teaching you his Instant Transmission>Focus on refining yours and the kids’ Su Ma technique>Other(write in)30 minute vote
>>3003552>>Focus on finally mastering that Ki Body techniqueShould be absolutely great at cucking Arbiter out of using his blades; and those are his main advantage in a fight against us.
>>3003552>>Focus on finally mastering that Ki Body technique>>Focus on refining yours and the kids’ Su Ma techniqueWe get to deal with the blades and better both ours and our kids skills.
>>3003552>Focus on teaching Chaya, Broly, and Chilli one or more of your own techniquesFinal Flash for a Family Final Flash. Good bonding.>Try and get Cooler to begin teaching you his Instant Transmission
>>3003552>Focus on finally mastering that Ki Body technique>Try and get Cooler to begin teaching you his Instant Transmission
>>3003552>Focus on finally mastering that Ki Body technique>Try and get Cooler to begin teaching you his Instant TransmissionDamnit Cooler, where's our fucking gamebreaker?!
>>3003536Ah, poor demon kitty thing isn't meant for high speeds.
>>3003552>Focus on finally mastering that Ki Body technique>Try and get Cooler to begin teaching you his Instant TransmissionCOOLER YOU SQUALID FUCK, GET TO THE TEACHING ALREADY!
>>3003554>>3003562>>3003565>>3003582>>3003592>>3003611Top two winners are Ki Body and trying to get Cooler to teach you Instant Transmission. Roll me a 2d100.DCs 45, 90
Rolled 9, 81 = 90 (2d100)>>3003616
Rolled 30, 5 = 35 (2d100)>>3003616
wewnot looking good
Rolled 14, 18 = 32 (2d100)>>3003616
>>3003628>>3003626>>3003625>>3003622Well fuck the rolls this morning. COOLER YOU CHEAP BASTAAAAAARD!
>>3003622>>3003625>>300362830/100, 81/100. Well, that’s not a very productive week. Writing.
>>3003638>that Aku REEEEEEEEE picyesthat is Karn right now
>>3003622>>3003625>>3003628Rip, don’t know why you guys haven’t taken the hint and given up on Ki Body.
>>3003638>Cooler is still gonna refuse to teach us Instant Transmission Cooler has refused to pay his debt for too long, it's time we go break his kneecaps.
>>3003648>40 years later>I have time to teach you now, monkey.
>>3003552For the next week you relax on the ship, focusing on trying to master the Energy Body technique you’ve still not completed. Despite your greater ki control and power, you still don’t manage to quite get the hang of it. You feel you’re on the brink of mastering the technique, but you’re missing something. You had your kids test your technique, but every time it would dissipate after a single hit. You’d realized you were able to keep the technique going after a single hit, but only by focusing on the technique to the exclusion of all else. It’s surprisingly effective, by the end of the week you’re able to painlessly withstand a barrage of strikes from all sides by your three older children.You’d also helped Chilli, your firstborn son privately asking for help on how to transform into a Super Saiyan.“You can’t transform into a Super Saiyan because you want to, at least at first.” you’d told your son, dropping to a knee with your hands on his shoulders. “You can’t just want that power, you have to need it. It comes from a need to protect, to destroy those who would take everything from you and those you hold close.”With that you rise to your feet, taking a step back, and transforming. After years and years of practice, transforming into a Super Saiyan requires no more effort than lifting an arm, or blinking. But you can remember how difficult it was and maybe, just maybe, you can help Chilli out. You step back to your son, placing your hand on his head.“Focus, Chilli.” you say, sending your golden ki coursing into him. You flood your power into him, watching as his hair begins changing and his aura flares up golden around him. “Focus on this energy, feeling it transforming you. Remember these sensations, Chilli.”“Woah!” Chilli says surprised, looking at his hands in awe as you release his head, the power you sent into him slowly fading. “It’s, it’s amazing.”“Memorize that feeling.” you tell him, transforming back down to base, the glow enveloping him fading away as well. “One day, it’ll be your turn to transform Chilli. And I know you’ll do it, and make me proud.”But practicing that technique and showing Chilli wasn’t all you spent your time doing. You also contacted one of your frostier allies, Freeza’s older brother Cooler.“What do you want, Monkey?” Cooler replied boredly to your telepathic message. “I’m in the middle of an invasion, this better be important.”“Just wondering when you’ll get around to teaching me that Instant Transmission technique.”contNext update with votes in around 20ish minutes
>>3003749>“I’m in the middle of an invasion, this better be important.”Pfft, oh yes, an invasion. That must be so straining, i'm sure he's being pushed to his very limits.Shut up faggot, you ain't busy.
>>3003749“I’m busy.” he replies frostily, then after a moment relents. “Look, I’m already booked up through this year. We can discuss my teaching you after your rematch with the Arbiter, if you survive it.”“I’ll hold you to that.” you replied telepathically, ending the conversation. The rest of the week passed quickly, and before you knew it you’d arrived.”Contestant Chaya, to the teleporter.” a mechanical voice calls over the transporter’s pa system. ”Chaya, to the teleporter.”“Yay, it’s time!” your daughter shouts excitedly, waving to you all as she runs off. “I’mma go win again!”What do you do?>Follow her out, supervise her fights directly>Follow her out, observe and commentate with Dallas and Juanita>Go to the rec area and observe her on the screens, don’t go out there and draw attention. This is her show>Other(write in)
>>3003822>>Follow her out, observe and commentate with Dallas and Juanita
>>3003822>Follow her out, observe and commentate with Dallas and Juanita
Rolled 86, 5, 69 = 160 (3d100)>>3003827>>3003831>>3003833>>3003840Follow her out, observe and commentate with Dallas and Juanita wins it. Writing.
>>3003822“Go get’em Chaya!” you shout, encouraging her as she runs to grab her friends, you walking to the teleporter. You make it as Chaya does, your daughter dragging Megumin with her, Broly and Chilli running alongside her. You three stand on the teleporter, Broly and Chilli waving goodbye as suddenly you all appear on an alien world. Megumin and Chaya look around wide-eyed, you finding the announcers’ blimp and flying up as Dallas begins his introductions.“Welcome back Dreadzone fans, to another exciting episode!” he says, voice booming out from the overhead blimp.“That’s right Dallas.” Juanita says, you leaping and flying right up beside them . Dallas turns to you and waves, searching for an extra mic while Juanita keeps announcing. “Today we’re live from the hellish alien landscape of Sarathos, and do we have a treat for you. She made her debut last week, and after coming out on top against the Crimson Demon has since teamed up with the crazy explosion girl. Give it up for Chaya and Megumin!!”You’re surprised, hearing applause blasting out. Looking around you notice several other Dreadzone ships nearby, screens on the sides showing shots of the audiences contained inside. You see Chaya and Megumin waving excitedly to the crowds high above them, the audiences eating it up.“Today, Chaya and Megumin are here with one eventual goal in mind, taking down the mighty King Leviathan!” Dallas says, you putting the headset on. “To get there, first they’ll have to fight through the first arena, and make their way to the Puma tank which will help them navigate the swamp! Joining us today is a special guest announcer, the PTO General and Super Saiyan, Karn! So tell me Karn, what do you think of Chaya and Megumin’s chances?”“From what I’ve seen, Megumin’s packing quite a lot of power.” you say, watching as Meloka and Chaya begin blasting and smashing their way through some of the native creatures and Dreadzone robots. “And Chaya’s far stronger than I was, even ten years ago. Unless there’s a Covenant assassin hiding down there, they should have no problems.”“Interesting.” Juanita replies, you all watching as your daughter and Megumin combine their power and blast away the attackers inside the first arena, and the arena wall. Grabbing Megumin, Chaya takes to the air, spotting the tank and landing down by it. The girls high-five, Megumin then grabbing her hand a moment before the two begin celebrating their easy win.“And just like that, Megumin and Chaya have made it to the Puma tank!” Dallas shouts, the audience roaring. “With the first stage complete, now they’ll have to travel to the four nodes, turning the bolt cranks to release the gate, allowing them access to the King Leviathan’s Lair! Don’t go anywhere, the action’s just heating up!”cont(vote in next post, damn character limits)
>>3004143“Daddy, what’s this thing?” Chaya asks you telepathically, her and Megumin walking around the Puma tank.“It’s some kinda vehicle kiddo.” you reply to her. “They want you to drive it around the swamp, to find those glowing objectives.” you tell her, the four buildings’ roofs lighting up.“But me and Megu can’t drive.” Chaya says, you feeling her disappointment. “What should I do?”Well?>Just leave it, you can just fly you and Megu around>It looks kinda like my hammer, doesn’t it kiddo?>Go ahead and try to drive it, just have fun with it>Have Megumin work the guns, push it around for training>Do whatever you want, I can’t help you. This is your fight Chaya>Other(write in)
>>3004143i ain't never seen what that isbut nigga it screams giant centipede
>>3004155>It looks kinda like my hammer, doesn’t it kiddo?
>>3004160It’s the swamp. There is no giant centipede.
>>3004189you can't tell me that doesn't look like a giant centipede corpse
Rolled 12, 52 = 64 (2d100)>>3004165>>3004176It looks kinda like my hammer, doesn’t it kiddo? wins it. Interesting, writing.
>>3004155>>Go ahead and try to drive it, just have fun with it
>>3004155>Go ahead and try to drive it, just have fun with itIt’s not like it could hurt her, and I’m sure she can get Megumin out of harm’s way if it looks like it’s gonna blow or whatever.
>>3004155You observe the vehicle, and suddenly you see that it looks familiar. A smile breaks out on your face, you thinking to Chaya:“Hey kiddo, doesn’t it look kinda familiar?” you ask her. “From here, it looks an awful lot like my hammer.”“Ooooh, it does!” Chaya replies excitedly, flying up and grabbing the tank by the barrel. You watch as Chaya easily hefts it, laughing as Dallas freaks out.“Hey hey, what are you doing?” he asks, worried. “Don’t scratch the paint on that Puma! We’re giving it away at bingo night!!”“I don’t think she’s listening to you.” Juanita says, you laughing as your daughter takes two practice swings. They then head out into the swamp, Chaya going first to draw any fire. You watch, commenting casually with Dallas and Juanita as the two of them battle their way to the first bolt crank. They easily clear the Dreadzone bots away, Megumin trying to turn the massive bolt contained inside. She’s unable to turn it, Chaya dropping the tank and trying to turn the bolt manually. She turns it slowly, quickly getting frustrated. She then lifts both hands, slamming her hammer fist down onto the bolt and driving it in.“Well, that’s ONE way to get the bolt down.” Dallas says, more Dreadzone soldiers pouring in towards the two of them. You see one that you hadn’t seen before, a flying beetle with cannon arms. You watch as it hefts its cannons, firing a barrage of blasts at the two girls. Chaya uses the tank as an impromptu shield, covering herself and Megumin from the bot’s attack. The underside of the tank, however, seems far more vulnerable than the rest of the vehicle; it exploding after a few seconds of sustained fire. The blast knocks Chaya and Megumin down, your daughter firing her Eye Beams and splitting the creature in two.“Your daughter’s quick thinking saved both of them.” Juanita says, you smiling as the two of them rise to their feet. You watch as they go from building to building, Chaya smashing the rest of the bolts down into the ground one after the other.“And that’s it, the duo of destructive daughters have smashed down the gate to the King Leviathan’s lair!” Dallas shouts, the crowd roaring in approval. “Now their final goal is to enter the King Leviathan’s lair and face the titanic monster down!”“Yeah! We’re gonna win!” you hear your daughter shout from all the way up there, chuckling as you see her pumping a fist.cont
>>3004475You keep watching as the girls go and enter the King Leviathan’s lair, sensing it’s relatively weak power as it leaps up from a pool of acid in the arena and roaring at them. Megumin and Chaya act surprised, clutching to each other. It roars at them again, green energy gathering in it’s tail. It fires a green beam from it’s tail, Chaya stepping front of Megumin and blocking the hit. She tanks the hit, Megumin charging her power from behind the safety of your daughter.“EXPLOSION!!” Megumin roars, the beast consumed by a massive earth-shattering blast of magical power. Your daughter shields Megumin from her own power, tanking that blast for her as well. Once the blast ends, Megumin falls flat on her face, your daughter picking her up and carrying her on her back.“And that’s it, with a full-power explosion Chaya and Megumin have destroyed the King Leviathan!” Dallas roars, the audience exploding with cheers. Chaya holds a fist up, Megumin’s Chomusuke running out from under her hat and copying the gesture. With their fight done, the ship picks them up, teleporting them back inside.“So, what do you say Karn?” Juanita asks you. “Want to go congratulate your daughter on her win, or will you stay and comment on the other contestants?” Juanita asks you.Well?>Stay and comment, this could be entertaining>Go check on Chaya and Megumin, see how they’re doing>Other(write in)
>>3004503>>Go check on Chaya and Megumin, see how they’re doingOf course we have to give our daughter and explosionloli a congrats.
>>3004503>Go check on Chaya and Megumin, see how they’re doing
>>3004503>>Go check on Chaya and Megumin, see how they’re doing
>>3004506>>3004508>>3004523>>3004524Go check on Chaya and Megumin, see how they’re doing wins it. Writing,
>>3004503“I’ll leave you professionals in charge of that.” you say, handing the mic back. “I have a little girl to go congratulate.”“Such a kind father, I wish my dad loved me half as much as Karn loves bis.” Dallas says, you taking off back to the ship as they continue commentating. You go through the teleporter just after another contestant teleports down, an odd-looking fishman in a metal suit. You appear inside the ship, quickly finding your children and Megumin in the mess. You realize only after a week of this just how good Silver is as your ship’s cook, you’ll have to do something for him when you get back.“Good job Chaya! You did great!” Chilli’s saying, Chaya digging in full-force while Megumin eats far more reservedly Broly surprising you by feeding Chomusuke. “Those lebathans didn’t stand a chance!”“Yeah, bu Megu gof all fhe fun!” your daughter says angrily through a mouth of food. “I difn get to efef pummm if!”“It blew up nice.” Megumin says with a yawn, then digging into a pair of bird legs. They all turn as they see you, Megumin leaping up excitedly and getting really close. “Did you see it? Did you see me blow it up!”“Yeah, you got it.” you reply, feeling slightly uncomfortable with her face so close. Chaya frowns at her friend, pouting. “What’s wrong kiddo?”“I didn’t get to punch it!” Chaya pouts, crossing her arms with a huff. “Megu blew it up first!”“It wasn’t that strong.” Broly says, trying to placate Chaya. “Little Tomi’s even stronger than that thing was.”“But -I- wanted to punch it!” Chaya pouts, taking another bite, crunching loudly on a bone. She’s clearly upset about this, but will you do anything about it?Well?>Take Chaya outside, let her spar as a Super Saiyan with you>Take Chaya to the ship’s training room, let her spar with you>Console Chaya, tell her the next one’s hers>Nothing, let her pout. She’ll bounce back shortly>Other(write in)
>>3004732>Take Chaya outside, let her spar as a Super Saiyan with you
>>3004732>>Take Chaya outside, let her spar as a Super Saiyan with you
Rolled 100, 76 = 176 (2d100)>>3004769>>3004772>>3004796Take Chaya outside, let her spar as a Super Saiyan with you wins it. This could be fun, roll me a 4d100.
Rolled 52, 55, 77, 62 = 246 (4d100)>>3004809F
Rolled 57, 35, 54, 27 = 173 (4d100)>>3004809>that rollgoddamn
Rolled 17, 21, 82, 15 = 135 (4d100)>>3004809>tfw your daughter punches you right in the fucking face
>>3004818I think it might be worse than that.
>>3004811>>3004813>>300481857/100, 55/100, 82/100, 62/100. Interesting mix, writing.
>>3004809I swear, out daughter's terrifying.
>>3004830The 100 might not belong to Chaya at all. It could be Megumin's reaction over seeing Karn transform.
I just found the perfect theme for Berserk Karn vs the Boi fight.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2oynkHNQWM
>>3004732“It’s okay, c’mon kiddo.” you say, picking her up and setting her on your shoulder.“Whaaa?” she asks surprised as you grab her, giggling as you set her on your shoulder. “Tehe. Where we goin’?”“We’re goin’ outside.” you say, feeling Chaya getting excited. “You didn’t get to fight the King Leviathan, so we’ll go spar instead.”“Yaaaay!” Chaya shouts, everyone following as you begin walking back to the teleporter. You all return to the teleporter room, the security bot looking confused.“You’ve already had your turn, where do you think you’re going?” it asks, hefting an odd-looking weapon. You walk past it casually, standing in the teleporter.“My daughter wants a quick match, so we’re going planetside.” you reply, the five of you getting on the teleporter. It stares at you all for a moment, you then rolling your wrist. “C’mon, send us down already. We won’t interfere with any other events, we’ll be on the other side of the planet.”“Alright, hold on.” it says, dropping the weapon back on the rack before returning back to his station. A moment later you’re all planetside again, you all taking to the air. Broly holds Megumin, the girl climbing onto and sitting on his back, holding onto his shoulders. You all land on an island far from where the Dreadzone event is taking place, hopefully far enough to not distract from the actual event. You set Chaya down, you both leaping back to about a dozen yards apart, dropping into your stances as Broly and Chilli land. After a moment of silence, you flash up into a Super Saiyan, gesturing to Chaya.“C’mon kiddo, show me what you got.” you say, noticing Megumin out of the corner of your eye. She seems very excited seeing you transform, eyes sparkling and holding her staff really closely to her chest, squirming.“Okay!” she shouts, clenching her fists. You see her aura flaring up around her as she digs deep, you feeling it as she finds the power deep with her. “HYYYAAAAAAAAAAA!!!”She explodes with golden ki, hair turning blonde as her eyes turn green, aura flaring wildly as the stone ground breaks beneath her feet. She then explodes at you, her speed catching you by surprise. You barely get an arm up in time to block, her fist slamming into your forearm. You feel the impact up your arm to the shoulder, the shockwave blasting out. It would have blown Megumin away had Broly not moved, your son moving behind her and catching her, catching her hat with Chomusuke in it as well. You smile at the fierce battle grin on Chaya’s face. This could get fun!cont
>>3004987Broly, how did you know how we met Meloka? That's out boy.
>>3005002our* god fucking damnit.
>>3004987“HAAAA!” you shout, punching at Chaya. You pull your power back to more closely match hers, you don’t want to destroy her after all. She nimbly twists around behind you, trying to kick you in the back of the head. You twist your upper body the opposite direction, blocking her kick with your other arm. You lift your left foot to kick at her, Chaya springing off your leg and bouncing off the ground to try and seemingly uppercut you. Leaning back you dodge her punch, but before you can counter she twists. She hits you across the face with her tail, catching you off guard and knocking you off balance. She slams her left fist into the side of your jaw before you can recover, sending you staggering back. Chaya tries to follow up, planning to taking advantage of the opening. But this time you’re ready. As she charges you deliver a straight right punch, Chaya twisting outside the punch. As yout attack misses you twist as well, catching Chaya with a backfist and sending her crashing down into the ground.“That’s the way kiddo, c’mon.” you say, dropping into your stance. You’re not done yet, are you?”“RAAAAAAA!!” she roars from the ground, you seeing her slam her palms together. Wait, that’s your move! “FINAL-!!!”“Barrier!” you shout immediately, throwing your arms wide as you activate your Barrier. But instead of firing, Chaya leaps, passing through your Barrier with a Ki Punch charged up. This could hurt, you bracing for the hit.“YAAAAAAA!!” Chaya shouts, slamming her ki-clad fist into your jaw. Her attack explodes against you, your Barrier falling as she sends you flying. As you sail back, youspit a bit of blood, impressed. Your daughter’s getting stronger by the day, one day she’ll even catch you. But her shout as she approaches snaps you back to the present, Her fists laced together to hit you with a two-handed axe-handle. But she’s left herself wide open. Pulling your power back as much as you can, you quickly charge up a Mouth Blast and fire.“BWAAAA!!!! !” you roar, blast taking her full in the chest. She shouts in surprise as your attack catches her off guard and sends her flying skyward, you backflipping and blasting up after her. Before she can reorient herself you catch up, grabbing her by the foot. With a quick spin you toss her back to the island your match started on, your daughter crashing into the ground by the kids and Megumin. You dash back down towards her, your daughter’s flared-up Super Saiyan aura blasting the dust cloud away as she leaps up at you. You both slam into each other, you both trading blows faster and faster. You feel your blood pumping, enjoying the thrill of battle again. You feel her reaching the peak of her strength, then start pushing herself further.>roll me a d100
Rolled 35 (1d100)>>3005054
Rolled 37 (1d100)>>3005054AAAAHHHH
Rolled 42 (1d100)>>3005054
Rolled 28 (1d100)>>3005054oh fuck
Rolled 76 (1d100)>>3005054
Rolled 36 (1d100)>>3005054YEEEEEART
Rolled 95, 14 = 109 (2d100)>>3005054
It's gonna be one of those days, huh? At least this isn't the fight with the Arbiter.
>>3005064>>3005065>>300506642/100. Oh well, that could have gone better. Writing.
>>3005076STOP HOLDING BACK KARN
>>3005054“C’mon Chaya, keep pushing.” you say excitedly, trading blows with your daughter faster and faster. You start taking the lead, Chaya falling more and more on the defensive as you press your attack. “You’re not just gonna let me win, are you?”“Grrrrr! RRRAAAAAAA!!” she roars out, trying to press the attack again. But her counterattack is sloppy, leaving her wide open. Before you realize it your body is moving, taking advantage of the opening. You manage to pull back, avoiding seriously hurting her, but your uppercut to her gut winds her. Chaya’s eyes go wide in shock, her Super Saiyan form fading as she struggles to breathe. You stop the fight immediately, grabbing onto her as she struggles to catch her breath. Her face is turning red, dammit you need to do something!“Dammit boy, c’mon, get up.” you remember one of your instructors telling you years ago, back on Planet Vegeta. He was a mean old bastard, you still remember him dying days before the full moon. But he’d taught you what to do here. As you struggled to breathe he kicked you onto your back, sending a surge of power into your chest just below the ribcage. You’d felt the muscle relaxing, allowing you to breathe again. Remembering this, you say a silent thank-you to that old bastard Suncho, laying Chaya on her back. She tries to curl up around her midde, you placing your hand against her just below the ribcage and pour your ki into her. After a few seconds you feel her muscles relax, Chaya taking a deep breath in. She simply lays there breathing, you transforming back to normal as you sigh out, sitting beside her as she recovers.“What was that?” Broly asks you confused.“He winded her.” Megumin says, Chilli and Broly turning to her. “A strike to the right places can cause the solar ple-“She goes on for awhile, listing the effects of a strike to certain muscles and their effects as Chaya recovers, sitting up and listening to her friend talking. You had no idea she was as medically-inclined as she is, perhaps she’ll get along with Dr. White? But with the fight done, you all go back to the ship, watching the rest of the contestants. They’re in some sort of battle royale, only one of the eight surviving to come back to the ship. With the battle done, the ship begins it’s trip back to Dreadzone station. But that means you have another week, what will you do?Well?(pick up to two)>Focus on finally mastering that Ki Body technique>Develop a new technique>Learn one of your allies techniques>Focus on teaching Chaya, Broly, and Chilli one of your own techniques>Focus on refining yours and the kids’ Su Ma technique>Other(write in)
>>3005136>Focus on refining yours and the kids’ Su Ma technique
>>3005136>>Focus on finally mastering that Ki Body technique
>>3005136>Focus on finally mastering that Ki Body technique>Focus on teaching Chaya, Broly, and Chilli one of your own techniquesI think Broly could really benefit from a good defensive technique and Chilli will probably knock any of our blast techniques out of the park.
>>3005151>>3005148>>3005143>Well?(pick up to two)Not sure if you guys saw that part.
>3005155Oh shit thanks.>3005151Changing to>Focus on finally mastering that Ki Body technique>Focus on refining yours and the kids’ Su Ma technique
>3005161you did that on purpose, didn't you.
>>3005136>Focus on finally mastering that Ki Body technique>Focus on refining yours and the kids’ Su Ma technique
>>3005167No I'm currently just fucking up simple shit I've done a billion times.
>>3005136adding too this >>3005143>Focus on finally mastering that Ki Body technique
>>3005143>>3005148>>3005161>>3005152>>3005170>>3005193Mastering Ki Body and practicing Su Ma with the kids wins it. Roll me a 2d100First DC 25
Rolled 44, 80 = 124 (2d100)>>3005200ded
Rolled 33, 78 = 111 (2d100)>>3005200
Rolled 63, 69 = 132 (2d100)>>3005200
>>3005201>>3005202>>300521963/100, 80/100. Impressive rolls, you finally did it. Writing.
>>3005136During the week long trip back to Dreadzone station, you continue working on developing that Energy Body technique. You don’t understand why you can’t get something that should seemingly be simple, yet here you are. Filled with determination you take up training from where you’d left off, focusing on moving while maintaining the technique. At first it keeps going as it had been, you unable to move while your technique is running. Two days into the return trip, you’re mulling over your continual failure at lunch, when Chaya accidentally knocks your drink over. You watch as it spills, coating a leg of some meat in water.“Oops, I’m sorry Daddy!” Chaya says, but you barey hear her, seeing the water coating the drumstick in your hand. You suddenly get it, rolling the drumstick around in your hand, the water moving with it. You’d been so focused on hardening your energy, that you’d made it too hard for even you to move. The answer is so obvious, you have to make your energy more fluid! “D-Daddy?”“Thanks kiddo.” you say, ruffling her hair. She seems confused for a few moments, then shrugging and going along with it, smiling at you. “I get it now.”“Huh? Get what?” she asks, you focusing your ki. You harden your aura around you, it locking you in place. You then soften it on the inside, making it a two-layered technique. The inner layer is fluid, moving as you do while the outer layer is solid, hopefully able to withstand strikes. “Oooh! Did you get it?”“I think so.” you say, rolling your shoulder while coated in your Energy Body. You and Chaya finish eating and run off to the training room, your daughter then attacking you. She unleashes, and unlike before you can actually feel her hits through your technique. However it also doesn’t fall apart, standing up to a minute-long barrage from Chaya before dissipating. “Yaaaay Daddy!” Chaya cheers you. “You finally did it!”-Energy Body learned--Unmovable Energy Body learned-However, that is what you spent only half of your training time working on. The other half you worked alongside Chaya, Broly, and Chilli on all of your Su Ma technique. Surprisingly, they’re further along than you are, you having to take their lead during practicing. It’s a humbling experience, learning from your kids. But you make the most of it, focusing intensely on the techniques the Guardian taught them. You feel your technique improving with each passing day, and before you know it, you’re back. However, someone else has arrived, you sensing his incredible power before you land.“Da-Daddy? Who’s that?” Chaya asks you as the transport ship you’re on approaches the station.“That’s Lord Boros.” you tell her, smiling. You’re getting excited, he’s early.cont
>>3005443Oh damn, the unmovable energy body is actually a really damn powerful technique if used correctlyImagine coating just our fists or just our legs in it, and using that hardness to improve the power and penetration of our strikes!The twisting motions of su-ma could be REALLY useful in developing a fighting style based around this.Using su-ma, you simply catch the enemy's blow, using the power of their own strike to increase the power and speed of your own twisting past the normal limit, then you use immovable energy body to both shield yourself from the damage and increase the damage done.And the best part is, it becomes more effective the stronger your opponent is.It's like turning karn's hands and feet into hammers.However, in the arbiter's case you'd have to catch his blade with your own in order to safely use his momentum against him.
>>3005443“Boros?” Megumin asks, scared. “Wait, the Dark Matter pirate? He’s here? What? Why?!”“He’s here for me.” you reply, cracking your knuckles. “We’re finally getting our rematch.”“Wait you FOUGHT him?!!” she asks, shouting, even more surprised. “You fought Boros and survived?! How? When?”“It was years ago.” you reply, the five of you getting in the teleporter. You’re wisked back to the station, resuming your conversation as one of Vox’s screens flies down at you all. “Meloka and I both fought him, but back then he seemed so much stronger than he does now.”“Greetings Karn, about time you’re back.” Vox says, then looks to Chaya and Megumin. “And great fight you two, the audiences ate it up. But now we have some business to discuss, come up to my tower’s penthouse and we’ll discuss it further.”“Alright, I’ll be right up.” you tell Vox, the screen flying back up to his suite.“Daddy’s goin’ to talk to the fishyman?” Chaya asks, looking up to you.Well?>Yeah, I’m going there now>Yeah, me and your mother are going>I’ll get to it in a bit, I’m gonna go meet with Boros first>Other(write in)
>>3005547>>Yeah, me and your mother are going
>>3005547>Yeah, me, Emilia and your mother are goingNo leaving Silva's daughter and Vegeta's new waifu alone
>>3005547>Yeah, I’m going there now
>>3005553>>3005566>>3005569Three way tie, to save time I’m going to take the write in for this one. Writing.
>>3005592>>>Yeah, me and your mother are going
>>3005547“Yeah.” you reply to her, then have an idea. “But your mother and Emilia are coming too.”“Emmy’s going too?” Chaya asks you confused. “But why?”“The Lin Kuei are still here, remember?” you ask her telepathically, Chaya’s eyes widening in realization. “If she’s publicly with us, they’ll have no reason to go after you all. But stay on guard, okay?”“OoooooKAY!” she shouts, giving you her best Saiyan salute. You chuckle and ruffle her hair, taking off like a blur to the ship as you telepathically catch Meloka and Emilia up to speed. When you arrive they’re ready to go, the three of you flying up to his office. As you’re flying up the outside, you sensing Boros and two others making their way up the inside of the tower. Seems you’ll all meet in Vox’s office.“But why am I coming along?” Emilia asks you. “Grandpa told me to never, ever mess with Lord Boros.”“Don’t worry, you’re not gonna fight him.” Meloka says, you smiling. It’s taken her awhile to come around, but it seems she’s excited for this one. “I am.”“Aww c’mon, you’re only leaving me the small fry?” you ask her with a laugh, opening a window and going through as the elevator opens, revealing Boros, Jotaro, and Joseph.“Hey.” Jotaro says, pointing at you. “Who’re you calling small fry? Why don’t you come over here and say that to my face?”“Gladly.” you say, taking a step forward.“Greetings, ladies and gentlemen.” Vox says, his seat behind his desk swiveling around as he rests his elbows on the desk. “If you are all ready, let us get down to business.”“Greetings, Chairman Vox.” Boros says, sitting directly across from Vox and holding out a hand. “It has been too long.”“That it has, Cyclo-Hurricane.” Vox says with a laugh, the two shaking. Wait, they know each other? “You ever considered coming back to the arena permanently?”“If you’re still around when I finally retire, I’ll spend the rest of my days here.” Boros says, then turns to you holding his hand out to you as well. “Greetings Super Saiyans Karn and Meloka. We meet again, at last.”-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 63 paused-
>>3005700And that’s it for tonight, everyone have fun? Ready for your battles to commence? I’ll be around for a bit to answer questions and comments, are you ready to pick Karn’s first walk-in theme?
>>3005708And here I was about to go to sleep. Gotta find a good theme first.
>>3005700Oooh, not good.
>>3005723What's not good about it?This is gonna be a hoot for everyone involved.
>>3005711You can find one in the morning, we’ll not resume until 11am EST.>>3005719Not a bad choice.>>3005723Not good how?
>>3005700Hope you've been upping your tongue game JoJo because if you can't say your magic words fast enough you're in for a world of pain. Nailed it.
>>3005744I believe you mean he’s in for ZA WARUDO of pain that is Karn. And he’s been preparing, not only for you but for a rematch with Boros, and eventually facing Kars, You may be surprised at what he can do now, but you may be even more surprised with what they can teach you.
>>3005772And I hope he's surprised for when Karn isWonder what the look on his face would be if Karn kept moving.
Got to let em know that even with all the bullshit that happens to us saiyans, we wouldn't want to be anything else.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AtIhuKn2No
>>3005772Pff, even if Jotaro’s gotten tougher, he’s still not a threat to us. Za Warudo’s strong, but if Boros was able to beat him before he was able to even put it to good use we should be capable of the same, even without resorting to Ascended. You can only talk so fast after all, and even if Star Platinum’s fairly tough Jotaro’s just a squishy human.
>>3005700We should definitely banter Jotaro some more.
>>3005917maybe he can use wordless ZA WARUDO like Dio did when Polnareff struck him
>>3005772>Jotaro uses star platinum to stop time>fucking timebreaker seal activates>NANI
>>3005917>>3006309He’s gotten much, much better at using it.>>3005925You can.>>3006404No, but that would be extremely dangerous.
Only about thirty minutes until we resume, hope everyone’s ready.
>>3005700“Lord Boros. It’s been quite some time.” you reply, holding out a hand as he’d done with Vox. He grins at the gesture, grabbing your hand. You feel him try and assert dominance by crushing your hand, you smirking at the attempt. With your strength so much greater than his while he’s wearing his power-restraining suit, you easily begin crushing his hand. His eye lights up, you can tell he’s impressed. But more than that, he seems even more excited about the rematch now.“General Karn. I’ve been watching your career closely, ever since you slayed that Zoldyck assassin on my ship.” he says, then ‘notices’ Emilia, grinning very sharklike. “Oh, forgive me. Sensitive subject? But I have to wonder, what could have possibly happened for the assassin clan to entrust their daughter to your protection?”“My family business is none of yours, pirate.” Emilia says cooly, but you can tell she’s furious. “If your head was worth more than six million credits I’d have already taken it.”“Would you now?” Boros asks, intrigued. “Perhaps I’d like to see you try?”“Enough people, enough!” Vox shouts, slamming his metal fist into his desk. “The drama’s good, but save it for the cameras, alright? Okay, so let me get this straight. You two want rematches with Karn, and you want a rematch with Boros, right?”“That sounds about right.” the old man says, observing you and Meloka.“Or you could always drop the four of us on one of your worlds, and let us battle it out in a free-for-all.” Boros says, you liking the sound of that too.“Or it could be me and Karn, and you two fighting.” Jotaro says, leaning against one of the walls without a care. “Then the next day the winners go against each other.”“These are all good suggestions.” Vox says, turning to you. “As the challenged, you get your choice. What’ll it be?”Well?>Free-for-all, it sounds the most exciting>One-on-one matches, you vs Jotaro and Meloka vs Boros>Other?(write in)30 minute vote
>>3006539TOOOOOURNAMEEEEENT AAAAAAARCCCCCNah but really, free-for-all.
>>3006539>>Free-for-all, it sounds the most excitingWe do our best fighting side by side with Meloka after all.
>>3006539I’m kind of tempted to try and take the both of them on at once, but that would probably end badly unless we did something like go Berserk, so>Free-for-all, it sounds the most exciting
>>3006539>Free-for-all, it sounds the most exciting
>>3006539>>Free-for-all, it sounds the most exciting
>>3006542>>3006548>>3006569>>3006570Free-for-all wins it. Writing
>>3006539“A free-for-all could be fun.” you say, cracking your knuckles. “Meloka and I can take you two out, then once we’re warmed up we can get a spar in against each other.”“Oh?” Boros asks with an amused chuckle, while Jotaro seems far less so.“What was that?” he asks, squaring up to you. “It almost sounds like you aren’t taking me very seriously.”“Of course I’m not kid.” you say, seeing his eye twitch as his phantom fighter appears behind him. “It’s hard to take someone seriously who’s only as powerful as my newest-born twins. That spirit of yours may be strong, but you’re weak.”“Huh, spirit?” Meloka asks, confused. “Karn, what are you talking about?”“It’s right there behind him.” you say, turning to Meloka. “Can’t you see it?”“See what?” she asks. “Karn, are you okay?”“Wait, you can see Star Platinum?” Joseph asks, purple thorns suddenly erupting from his right hand. “Can you see my Hermit Purple?”“Those purple thorn things?” you ask, Meloka looking between the two of you confused. “Okay, what’s going on?”“Seems you were right, Jotaro.” Joseph says, the two whispering between themselves. You’re curious, but Vox begins speaking again.“Alright, with that decided, all that’s left is picking the arena.” Vox says, two worlds appearing behind him on the screen. One is a white ball, the other a collection of asteroids. He clicks the remote at the white ball, it expanding. “First, we have the Ancient Temple of Shaar. Shaar is a frozen world, and this ancient temple would be your arena. Getting tossed from the arena or KO’d is a loss.”“Having a ring out isn’t very sporting.” Boros says. “I won’t be aiming for a cheap win like that.”“And the other option is the Valix Belt.” Vox says, the view switching to a collection of asteroids. “We’ve artificially given this area an atmosphere, allowing far more dynamic fighting. Once knocked out a certain distance from the two lighthouses, the artificial atmosphere disappears, and you’ll suffocate in the void of space. So, which will it be?“The Valix Belt” Boros says, while at the same time Jotaro says “Planet Shaar.”“Well Karn?” Vox asks you. “Which will it be?”Well?>Planet Shaar>Valix Belt30 minute vote
>>3006642>>>Planet ShaarDon't want Joseph or Jotaro to accidentally die desu, besides ring outs being possible means things are (a tad) more tactical.
>>3006653Joseph will not be fighting you or Meloka. He’ll be observing from a safe distance with other VIPs
>>3006642>Planet ShaarLet's be nice to Jotaro, We are gonna kick his ass after all.We should also focus on Jotaro and take him out quick since Meloka can't deal with Star Platinum.She'll have to hold off Boros until we can get to her.
>>3006642>Planet Shaar"We will just blow up the arena and then fight how we please. No ringouts. Its pointless with our power.">>3006655Oh, okay trip dubs, thought with how the conversation was going he was fighting again too.
>>3006657How about we blow it up after we beat Jotaro?That way he still has a chance while he's still fighting.
>>3006642>Valix BeltWait, shit, other people can’t see Stands in this universe? But we can? Do we have a Stand? Aw man I hope we have a Stand, that’d be sweet, and also super overpowered.
>>3006642>Planet Shaar"Most of us can't breathe in space, so i think we'd all prefer the actual planet."
Also I forget, can Jotaro fly or can he still only do Stand-Hops?
>>3006665Wait a minute>You may be surprised at what he can do now, but you may be even more surprised with what they can teach you.You clever bastard, this is what you meant, isn’t it?
yo....is Dragon Fist our Stand?
>>3006689.......holy fuck, it makes sense. No wonder our kids cant make it, I wonder if it will turn into a family stand like the Speedwagons.
>>3006689>Stand Name:『T H E L A S T D R A G O N』>Stand User : KARN THE CONQUERORDid you know there are almost zero good albums or songs with "Dragon" in the title?
>>3006709>>3006689Wait, never mind, that doesn't make sense. >>3006711it cant be, literally everyone else in the universe can see it. What else have we done that could be a Stand?
>>3006715"Fuck you i have gainz" -Karn
>>3006715It could just be that our real stand can only currently be manifested through dragon fist since Karn can't bring it out.>>3006703Man I'm already Hyped GD and we haven't even started fighting!
>>3006711There’s some British metal band called Dragon Force, isn’t there? Not really familiar with their music though.
>>3006724That's our species>>3006726That still doesn't work because Stands cant be seen by other people without stands
Ir could be a manifestación of Karn's primal side, like that fiery golden ozaru form we did when failed to achive golden ozaru
>>3006715>it cant be, literally everyone else in the universe can see it. What else have we done that could be a Stand?I bet the only reason they can see it is because of the fuck ton of energy we put into it whenever we call it out.
>>3006735Hey, hey hey.Don't worry about it.We have gainz.We can do anything.
>>3006741Ehhh, it’s not a bad theory, but there’s a few too many holes for it to be plausible. The fact that others can see it, to start with, and also the fact that we can only use it when we go Super Saiyan.
>>3006727>Dragon Force>Not really familiar with their music though.You fucking what you double nigger? They have only one song that matters, one literally EVERYBODY on the internet should know by now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15JCb6P60Vw
Rolled 24, 70 = 94 (2d100)>>3006653>>3006656>>3006657>>3006665>>3006668Planet Shaar wins it. Writing.We’ll see what happens next
>>3006746>They have only one song that matters, one literally EVERYBODY on the internet should know by now.Ah, you mean the finger breaker on Guitar Hero.
>>3006735Yeah but the effects of those Stands can. What if Dragon Fist is just Karn subconciously using stand power and mixing it with a regular Ki attack. After all Dragon Fist is based of a Ki Punch and everyone can see Ki.
>>3006746I know Through the Fire and Flames obviously, but just knowing their most popular song doesn’t mean I’m familiar with their music. That’d be like saying you’re familiar with Blue Oyster Cult’s music just because you know (Don’t Fear) The Reaper.
>>3006642“Hmmm.” you say, pondering a moment. Artificial atmosphere and an asteroid belt would certainly be an interesting battle, but if the atmosphere generator goes down you’re all dead. So, better to do it from the relative safety of a planet. “Let’s go with Shaar.”“Shaar it is.” Vox says, Boros seeming bored while Joseph seems relieved. You can’t read Jotaro, except he’s still noticeably glaring angrily at you. “Alright gentlemen and woman, your ship leaves this afternoon as soon as we finish up here. Boros, you wish to keep your same theme?”“Of course.” he replies. “Ah, it’ll be nostalgic fighting to that again.”“I’ll make sure to send you a copy.” Vox replies, turning to Jotaro and Joseph. “And I got yours already, interesting choice.”“Wait, I didn-“ Jotaro says confused, then glares at Joseph “Hey, old man. Did you do this?”“Don’t worry about it, I picked you a good one Jotaro.” the old man says, Jotaro glaring at him.“And what about you Karn?” Vox asks. “What will you have playing?”“Playing?” you ask, unsure. “What do you mean?”“Your theme music!” Vox says, his screen exploding with dozens of options. “When you walk out we gotta have something playing, something to hype the audience up. So, which are you thinking? Take your time, listen to them and see which you like.”Well?>Indestructible-Disturbedhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=k1_NApyl_94>Superhero Showdownhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=Dg9jgd0xTvU>Sound the Alarmhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=pn4qswVQ_0U>Iron Manhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8aQRq9hhekA>Doom ‘16, RIP AND TEARhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=zZMg9ryeWOw>Not buried yethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pJCSfJL5FI>Blooming villan -persona 5https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX6ZFtiumk4>Berserk ‘16 My BrotherExtendedhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=Tr6BMiHMPtI>Powerwolf Amen and Attackhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=ZpFgkZWHXqA>Berserk Forceshttps://youtube.com/watch?v=NkYYYew8CUI>REDLINE AMV 1000hphttps://youtube.com/watch?v=3LSsLpoCltc>Other(write in)30 minute vote
>>3006819Doooooooom rip and tear
>>3006819i'll uh change my vote because fuck that constant new listing.>Powerwolf Amen and Attackhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=ZpFgkZWHXqA [Embed]
>>3006819>>Berserk ‘16 My BrotherExtendedWas gonna go for Rip&Tear but this really hooked me.
>>3006819>Doom ‘16, RIP AND TEAR
>>3006819Actually, cancel >>3006856I hadn't noticed the new option of >Powerwolf Amen and Attack
>>3006819>>Berserk ForcesTHINK ABOUT THE FUCKING LIGHTSHOW YOU GUYS
>>3006872But iron man is so fitting!
>>3006819>>Powerwolf Amen and AttackHow could I not pick motherfucking Powerwolf
>>3006875It kind of is, but I'm surprised more people aren't picking "indestructible", considering how fitting it really is, even if I think "Amen and Attack" is a better fit for a theme song, given it's kind of awe-inspiring.
>>3006831>>3006849>>3006855>>3006856>>3006857>>3006860>>3006863>>3006870>>3006872>>3006884Powerwolf Amen and Attack wins it. Almost fighting time, writing.
>>3006932My vote won...I feel so proud right now.
>>3006819As you listen to son after song, Boros, Jotaro and Joseph all leave, leaving you to it. After listening to several of them, you finally pick one.“I’ll pick this one.” you say, playing it again.“Finally, perfect.” Vox says. “It’ll be ready to go when you get there. Your transport is waiting, Super Saiyans. Best not keep the fans waiting.”“Wait, didn’t you pick one?” you ask Meloka.“Hmm? Emilia already helped me picked mine.” she says, the three of you leaving Vox’s office and flying back to your ship. Once there Chaya runs up excitedly, holding onto something. As you approach, you see she’s holding another Lin Kuei assassin’s head.“Daddy Daddy look, I got one!” Chaya says excitedly, the decapitated head dripping on the station floor. “They tried to sneak in the ship, but me an’ Megu were ready! We blew them all up!”“Good job kiddo.” you say, ruffling her head. “Me and your mother are about to head out, keep watching over everyone for me, will you?”“Of course!” Chaya says excitedly, giving another salute. “Oh, and guess who’s here!”Before you reply you extend your senses, feeling a familiar presence. Before you can say anything, however, he begins walking down the ramp of your ship, looking taller than you remember.“King Vegeta, what a pleasant surprise.” you say, you and Meloka saluting. He returns the gesture then gestures for you both to relax.“Good to see you Karn.” he says, you seeing he’s looking worn out. He looks tired. “Raven’s already told me everything. While you have your rematch with Boros, I’ll have my guard here helping watch over your ship and crew.”“Appreciated, my king.” you say, clasping forearms with young King Vegeta. “My ship’s all yours, Gravity Chamber’s open. Make yourself at home.”“That I will.” Vegeta replies, then turns to Emilia. “Hey.”“Hey yourself.” she says, the two smiling at each other. You and Meloka leave them to it, telepathically telling your kids and crew what’s going on. Then, to Tatsu, you have a favor to ask.“Of course.” he replies before you can ask. “I’ll take good care of little Tatsu and Tomi for you.”“Thanks old man.” you say, Tatsu chuckling then ending the conversation. The ship flies back down by yours, teleporter ready. Boros, Jotaro and Joseph all walk up, you turning to them.“One week to Planet Shaar, are you both ready?” Boros asks you.“Oh yeah.” you reply excitedly. This will be good.One week of training before Shaar, what will you do?>Take a few spare Gravity Hammers along, practice using them as well as channeling ki through them>Focus on practicing your energy techniques before the match>Focus on practicing your martial technique>Try and learn someone’s technique(whose?)>Find Joseph, see if he’ll explain what he was talking about before>Other(write in)
>>3007048>Find Joseph, see if he’ll explain what he was talking about before
>>3007048>Find Joseph, see if he’ll explain what he was talking about beforeIt’s motherfucking Stand time bois
>>3007048.....why are these dumb bastards still trying? We have guard kids that eat their kills, are they suicidal?>Find Joseph, see if he’ll explain what he was talking about beforeReally curious as to what it could be.
>>3007048>Focus on practicing your energy techniques before the match>Practice coating just the arms and legs in hard protective energyLike i said before, this method will increase karn's damage output by a lot, especially against physically strong enemies like Jotaro and Boros.>Use su-ma's twisting motions to catch the enemy's attack and use their own momentum to propel your body along with your own movements>coat limbs in hardened ki using immovable energy body to protect yourself from your own attack's power>the hardened surface then impacts the enemy's body with a force beyond your normal limits
>>3007071Its only a week, we wont get that far with it unless we crit.
>>3007048>>Find Joseph, see if he’ll explain what he was talking about before
>>3007076A week is all you need for this.This fighting makes use of what karn already knows, namely su-ma.The only thing he needs to work on is just coating a single portion of his body, so he can still move his joints.
>>3007065>.....why are these dumb bastards still trying? We have guard kids that eat their kills, are they suicidal?Good questions.
>>3007089Already did that with perfected Body Ki, specializing it now would require more effort and a higher DC than asking Joseph.
>>3007103Wait, shit, do they even know our kids are the ones butchering them when they trespass? We might need to let one or two run to explain their wasting their time, and ours, by sending their mooks to die.
Rolled 32, 13 = 45 (2d100)>>3007057>>3007064>>3007065>>3007071>>3007074>>3007080>>3007098Find Joseph, see if he’ll explain what he was talking about before wins it. Roll me a 3d100.
>>3007110>tfw you hold a PSA stating that your kids will literally eat you if you fuck with them
Rolled 65, 65, 85 = 215 (3d100)>>3007132
>>3007103>>3007110Could there possibly be some kind of internal struggle going on in the Lin Kuei? If the expendable grunts were largely in favor of a certain person, they could be trying to thin out the ranks of the opposing faction. Especially if they dude they support is in no position to retaliate due to some kind of deep cover mission that necessitates long periods of time without contact with HQ.
Rolled 42, 64, 2 = 108 (3d100)>>3007132Unlimited bad luck
Rolled 65, 99, 90 = 254 (3d100)>>3007132KONO STANDO POWA
Rolled 25, 18, 38 = 81 (3d100)>>3007132
>>3007140>>3007149>>3007154Double 65’s/100, 99/100, 90/100. Impressive, special success. Writing.
>>3007177We're going to unlock a stand as soon as we just picked our theme song. IT WAS DESTINED
>>3007177Are you going to finally let us learn Hamon?
>>3007048You and Meloka board the craft, and the pilot gives you the same room since you still have the keycard from the last trip. He gives a second key to Meloka, the two of you making your way into the craft.“Only a week.” Meloka says. “Not much time for me to perfect that technique. What about you hun?”“Huh? Oh, sorry.” you say, still distracted. Why couldn’t Meloka see what you saw? You’re gonna get some answers out of that old man. “I’ve gotta ask Joseph something.”“Alright, I’ll be in the training room.” she says, floating up and kissing you then walking away. You then focus on Joseph’s ki, walking down the halls towards him and Jotaro. As you approach, you hear the two talking about something, you listening in.“-esn’t matter, if he can see our Stands then he has to have one himself.” Joseph says. “And if he’s got a Stand, it has to be-““Wait.” Jotaro says, from behind the door. “Someone’s coming. Star Platinum: Za Warudo!”You take another step, suddenly realizing he’s standing right in front of you.“Good grief.” he says, tugging on his hat as you step back a half-step in surprise. When? How? “What do you want?”“I’m here for some answers.” you reply, shrugging it off. He startled you, he’s either far faster than you remember or he can teleport like Cooler. Either way, you’re here for a reason.“You’re wondering why you can see our abilities, and others’ can’t?” Joseph asks, walking out of the room. “It’s simple, really. You’re a Stand user as well.”“A Stand? What’s a Stand?” you ask confused, Jotaro and Joseph conjuring their purple thorns and ghostly fighter appearing. You immediately drop into a fighting stance, prepared for battle, but after a few tense seconds their Stands disappear.“Those are our Stands.” Joseph says. “A Stand is a physical manifestation of one’s fighting spirit, usually only visible to other Stand users.”“I’ve suspected you were a Stand user since our first fight.” Jotaro says, leaning against the wall. “And the fact you can see the old man’s Hermit Purple confirms it. You are a Stand user as well.”“Okay, so let’s say I’m a Stand user.” you reply. “So what’s my Stand then?”“I have a pretty good idea.” Joseph says. “Why don’t we go to the training area, and have you charge up that attack where you turn into a giant dragon?”“Sure, why not?” you ask, leading your trio there. Meloka seems surprised to see the three of you together, but then she and everyone else are far more surprised when you transform into a Super Saiyan.“Wait, what are you doing?” Joseph asks you confused.“It’s only worked while I’ve been Super Saiyan.” you say, powering back down. “But I guess I’ll try it without Super Saiyan. Here goes something.”cont
>>3007279Probably not for a while, Joseph isn’t really qualified to teach it to us.
>>3007337Oh fuck yeah, our Stand totally is a giant golden Dragon, that’s sick.
>>3007352I hope it's named [Dragon Force]
>>3007391Oh shit, GD, the epilogue to this session HAS to be Trunks freaking the fuck out when we unlock「DRAGON FORCE」in the time scroll. He’s going to be absolutely horrified.
>>3007423>Trunks freaks out about stands>random Time Patroller also freaks out but is also kind of excited that there may be a chance for him to live out his fantasies of being a JoJo
>>3007465>"HOW THE FUCK DID HE GET A STAND?!">"WAIT STANDS ARE REAL?">"GUYS STANDS ARE REAL GET THE FABULOUS OUTFITS READY!"
>>3007471>Ginyu Force gets swarmed by TP rookies that wanna learn how to pose for their stand
>>3007465>>3007471They're all happy now, but Stands being real means they get to deal with the Made in Heaven/Stairway to Heaven bullshit.
>>3007471>TP Ginyu Gorce in the background going, Bitch Please, we are always fabulous.>>3007481God, if the charged cash for classes they could by Chrona's job.
>>3007488buy*>>3007486So does that mean Eyes in Heaven Dio knows about us and this version of Kars being a threat?
>>3007493Nah, Dio Over Heaven was/is already taken care of by EoH Jotaro. Time shenanigans and all that.
>>3007471>We can finally make Karn do a bunch of Jojo posing and challenge Kars to a pose-offTruly, this is the brightest timeline.
>>3007493Yes, but luckily The Passion Jonathan is there to beat him up if he tries anything.
>>3007493>Jorge Joestar universe Ultimate Kars breaks into our timeline>btfo's everyone instantly
>>3007513>Gets incinerated on the spotftfy
>>3007337It’s an odd sensation, trying to use your Dragon Fist without going Super Saiyan. At first it’s simply your Piercing Fist MkII, but then you feel it. As you get more frustrated and angry the energy changes, you looking down at your right arm and seeing the golden dragon coiled around your arm. It’s much smaller than usual, you used to it being a massive attack. You can sense this creature on your arm, it’s made of your own ki, yet different. Your eyes widen in surprise, you looking back to Joseph who looks just as confused as you.“Isn’t it usually larger?” Joseph asks, and you have to agree with him. When using it to attack it envelops you, you wondering why it’s so small and weak-seeming now. Is it because you’re not a Super Saiyan? “Either way it’s impressive, your Stand being so clearly visible means it must be powerful. Let me see what your Stand can do. Hermit Purple!“You watch as the purple thorns spring out from his hand, shooting out and wrapping around your dragon, holding it in place. You surprisingly feel the thorns in your own flesh, piercing you in a few places and drawing blood. You do your best to remain still, Joseph nodding and ‘hrmmm’ing for several moments before releasing you.“Interesting.” Joseph says, walking you through what he discovered about your stand:https://pastebin.com/A3nV1kqDYou work with the old man throughout the week, exploring what this new ability can and cannot do. But before long, you finally arrive on Planet Shaar.“Welcome ladies and gentlemen, to a very special episode of Dreadzone!” Dallas shouts, you all hearing him and the audience’s cheers through the ship’s pa, you all gathering by the teleporter.“That’s right Dallas, today we have a twelve fighter free-for-all in the Ancient Temple of Shaar!”“Wait, twelve?” Meloka asks, Boros chuckling.“Seems he’s decided to make this more fun.” he says, popping his neck. “This should make the event far more entertaining.”“Karn and Meloka, you two’re first.” the teleporter worker says, you both teleporting down to the planet’s surface. As you blink a few times, you realize this planet is cold. You feel the chill creeping in almost immediately, Meloka shivering as well as you watch the ship fly off a short distance, teleporting Jotaro and Boros down. You sense the two of them immediately seperate, sensing seven other far weaker powerlevels scattered throughout the temple.“Let the twelve fighter free-for-all begin!” Dallas shouts. You sense Boros on the move, charging the nearest weak powerlevel to him. One of the weaker powers is heading towards you and Meloka, the rest moving away.“Well, let’s get started.” Meloka says, flaring her aura up.How will you start this?>Spar Meloka to warm up>Rush to engage Boros>Rush to fight Jotaro>Rush with Meloka to fight Boros>Split up, take the weaker powers out first>Other(write in)
>>3007537>"Meloka, let's stick together and try to cover each other's backs. Jotaro and Boros can thin out the weaker fighters before we get to them.">Spar Meloka to warm upTeam Leader Karn is a go.
>>3007537>>Rush to fight Jotaro
>>3007537So....we are the ultimate sabot shell?
>>3007537>>3007550this, time to be responsible. Also adding attempt to watch what Jotaro does.
>>3007537Wow [Dragon Force] is very well suited to Karn's fighting style.>>Split up, take the weaker powers out firstI want to save the major fights for last.
>>3007537Holy fuck our stand.
>>3007537>https://pastebin.com/A3nV1kqDThat is a really weak stand, holy shit. Still it fits Karn.
>>3007579I'd say as long as the potential is high anything is possible.
>>3007579qm has gone on record that we have the potential to kill "Anything" with our dragonfist.Didn't know It was going to be our stand, but whatevs.
>>3007537>Rush to fight JotaroGet him out of the way before we deal with Boros. Meloka can do her own thing. As far as our Stand goes, it’s interesting. It powerful, but the durability thing is a pretty big drawback. We’ll have to see if we can shore up that weakness a bit, make it and us tougher, I’d be fine with it not enhancing our attacks much, as long as it didn’t make us more susceptible to attacks in exchange, so maybe we can work towards that. I wonder if we could use Energy Body to offset the durability penalty? Kind of a shame that it’s visible to everybody, but oh well. The million dollar question is if we can get it to shoot Final Flashes from it’s mouth, because that’d be kickass.
>>3007582Nah, the vaguer a stand's powers, the more broken it is. Straightforward stands while good, are usually the weakest.>>3007586Possibly, but the write up has clear constraints and bounds. Like, it's grows exponentially as Karn is damaged, but it can only grow to the point when Karn is dead.Or it pierces "most defenses", putting a limit on what we can pierce. Again, not saying it isn't a good or useful stand, it's just weak stand wise.
>>3007561Sorta.>>3007579It all depends on how you wield it.>>3007582>>3007586It is situational, but yes. There is much to learn.
>>3007537>>Spar Meloka to warm up
>>3007579Given that Karn can do most of the heavy lifting by himself, his Stand gives him exactly what he needs if he's dealing with an opponent that doesn't take damage from mundane sources or has extraordinary defenses. It'd be kind of OP if we got a type of Not!Star Platinum stand that could do everything that Karn could.
Rolled 52, 46, 43, 31, 7, 16, 49, 2, 53, 70, 42, 9 = 420 (12d100)>>3007550>>3007552>>3007567>>3007568>>3007591>>3007604So late vote for spar Meloka breaks the tie, and adding the write in. Roll me a 4d100
Rolled 92, 53, 41, 40 = 226 (4d100)>>3007612YEEEEEEEEEEEART
Rolled 55, 22, 56, 53 = 186 (4d100)>>3007612
Rolled 32, 40, 12, 48 = 132 (4d100)>>3007612
>>3007612Apart from that first roll, Karn seems to be doing mediocre desu
>>3007597So out of curiosity, can we train the durability thing out of it down the road?Because it goes from “Really situational” to “Star Platinum strong” if we can pull that off.
>>3007614>>3007615>>300761792/100, 53/100, 56/100, 53/100. Plus side, the cold seems to be messing with all the other contestants as well. Writing
>>3007612Heh, only one dude got above a 60.
>>3007537“Aaaaaaaaand they’re off!” Dallas shouts from far up above the battlefield. “Boros has rushed to the B-2 Brawler, the gold-clad cyclops swatting his blasts aside like they’re nothing.”“Let’s let Jotaro and Boros take out the weaklings.” you say as you drop into your stance. “Wanna get a quick warmup in?”“Sure.” she says, dropping into her own stance. You both start off slow, swinging at each other through the opening moves of the Su Ma. The moves stretch the both of you out, but as you spar you still feel the cold seeping deeper into your bones.“What’s this?” Juanita asks. “It seems Karn and Meloka are ignoring the other contestants, preferring to fight with each other instead.”“What could this mean?” Dallas asks. “A domestic dispute? Display of dominance? A Saiyan mating ritual? We’ll keep a close eye on the action as it develo- And in a fierce gunfight Krypto has taken down Agent Bizarro!”“The B-2 Brawler has also been defeated.” Juanita says, sounding more and more excited. “All this carnage is so... delicious.”“That it is, Juanita.” Dallas says. “It seems that Quasar Flare and Mad Monkey McKnight are engaged in battle, while Krypto is closing in on the Saiyans.”“Alright, that’s en-“ you say, but at the last moment pushing Meloka aside and blocking a high-powered beam with crossed arms. You feel it burning your left arm, quickly tossing the now-burning glove to the ground. You look back up, seeing a glint through the falling snow. You throw your arms wide, activating your shield with a shout of “Barrier!”Your Barrier tanks another three shots, before the incoming fire ceases. You focus your mind on the powerlevel where the shots are coming from, barely sensing anything.“You damn Saiyans.” you hear an angry voice call out. “This is for my whole race!”“Who the hell are you?” you ask, no answer coming.“It seems Krypto has engaged Karn and Meloka.” Dallas says. “But who will come out on top? Juanita, any insight as to why he has such a grudge against the Saiyans?”“As a Grey, of course he’d have a grudge.” Juanita says, your eyes widening in surprise. A Grey has survived this long? “The Saiyans destroyed their empire and nearly exterminated their entire race. That is plenty of reason for a grudge.”“So you’re a Grey?” you call out towards that power, dropping your Barrier. “I didn’t start that war, but we damn well ended it.”“I’ll destroy you like you slaughtered my defenseless family!” he calls out, stepping into sight. The Grey is hefting an odd rifle, two other guns strapped across his oddly-shaped backpack. “This is for my entire race!”Well?>Just leave him, go fight Jotaro>Just leave him, go fight Boros>Rush and attack>Defend, see what he can do>Evade, find an opening, and counter>Death Beam, end him now>Energy Blade, rush and attack>Super Saiyan, rush and attack>Other(write in)
>>3007719Oh fuck it's kryptosporidiummuh childhoodwe better put this fucker down>super saiyan, energy body, energy blade rush and attack
>>3007719>>Death Beam, end him nowI ain't fucking around with CryptoBlow his ass away with extreme prejudice, he's packing serious heat.
>>3007719>>Death Beam, end him now
>>3007734a death beam probably won't get through his shields, you'd need to use an energy javelinPersonally i'd just try and cut his head off with a ki blade, but if you wanted to go the piercing route, i'd do what we did with the energy bomb and super explosive wave.That is, Energy Javelin + Fucktons of kiWe can call it something chuuni like the dragon lance.
>>3007719>>>Death Beam, end him now
>>3007719>>Super Saiyan, rush and attack
>>3007719>Death Beam, end him nowCasually kill the last member of an entire race I guess.
...Can we go for a super death beam at least?I really don't think he'll go down that easily.
Rolled 18, 69, 2, 54, 35, 69, 11, 54, 11, 64 = 387 (10d100)>>3007727>>3007734>>3007741>>3007748>>3007752>>3007753>>3007760>>3007775Death Beam wins it, roll me a 2d100.First DC 40
Rolled 52, 13 = 65 (2d100)>>3007788
Rolled 90, 45 = 135 (2d100)>>3007788I got this
Rolled 65, 59 = 124 (2d100)>>3007788
>>3007794Ya did. Congrats
>>3007791>>3007794>>300779590/100, 59/100. Success then failure, writing.
>>3007788Sheesh, shit rolls all around for the other competitors today.
>>3007818Should have brought a jacket I guess.OR MAYBE A CLOAK
>>3007836A cloak like that doesn't look good to me. It just doesn't fit karn's image.A nice tattered leather cape, however...
>>3007719“Your kind got what you had coming to you.” you say, pointing your finger at him for a Death Beam. He activates some sort of shield around him, tossing a half-dozen grenades at you. You fire your Death Beam, it easily piercing through his shield and right through the creature’s chest, punching out through the rear of the shield as well. And with a small effort you redirect the beam, curving it back around and destroying the grenades before they can reach you. As your beams destroy the grenades they throw up a wall of smoke. You cough on the smoke for a moment, flaring your aura up to blow it away. And once the dust settles, you see he’s still laying there, but something’s wrong. You hear a beeping noise. “Saiyan bastard.” Krypto says, coughing up purplish blood. “It’s too late for you to ask forgiveness now. A final gift from me: I’ll see you in hel-“BOOMYou weren’t prepared, taking an unexpectedly massive explosion to the face. You’re blasted off your feet, crashing back into Meloka as the two of you fall in a tangle.“And that is it for Krypto; with one last glorious explosion Krypto and the Grey race are no more!” Dallas shouts, the audience roaring in approval. You rise up to your feet after a moment, helping Meloka rise out of the snow as well. You both look to the crater where the last Grey was, when suddenly a shadow envelops you both. Looking up you see something dropping towards you both fast. With only a split-second to act you push Meloka out of the way, catching the massive object. As it falls you see it is a giant reptillian creature, pummeled to a pulp and holding a pair of broken swords. It slams into you with considerable force, you managing to catch it.“And with the newcomer Jotaro Kujo defeating Chainblade, both of Megacorp’s fighters have been defeated!” Dallas shouts, you tossing the giant creature into the Grey’s crater and looking around. You see Jotaro land near you, golden arua enveloping him and his Stand, Star Platinum. “He’s now approached Karn and Meloka, how will this go? Hope everyone has their drinks and popcorn, because we’re not breaking for commercial anytime soon!”He squares up to you, Star Platinum floating behind him as he begins walking forward, hands in his pockets. You begin walking forward as well, the two of you not saying anything and simply glaring at each other as the distance between the two of you shrinks to only a few feet.“STAR PLATINUM! ZA WARUDO!!”https://youtube.com/watch?v=uhUzEqBtLwU-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 63 End-
>>3007967And that’s it for this weekend, everyone enjoy this thread? Glad the mystery of Dragon Fist has finally been solved? Relieved or disappointed how quickly the last of the Greys was defeated? Ready to fight Jotaro and Star Platinum, and then Lord Boros? As of right now, we’ll resume next Saturday at our usual time, 11am EST. I’ll be around for another few hours tonight and throughout the week for questions and comments, did you have fun?
>>3007967You know, if Karn figures out he gets hit really fucking hard every time Jotaro screams about his world and learns to pop his super Ki body defense that'd probably make the immobile beatings a bit less painful.
>>3007967We probably can't do anything about the stopped time, but we CAN defend ourselves to some degree against the attacks he'll hit us with during that stopped time.The first one or two times we can probably block most or all of the damage using immovable ki body, but jotaro will wise up quickly, and will likely fake having used the world to the utmost, allowing him to counterattack when we let down our defense.So after that, we'll have to use fluid ki body, meaning we'll start taking damage.So before jotaro can fuck us up, we need to deal some massive damage to his real body.Even if that doesn't put him out of the fight, it'll make the following battle more manageable.
>>3007985Karn isn't dumb. I assume that, if Jotaro pulls it off this time as well, then Karn will automatically pop it. After all he's already seen Jotaro do that on the ship.>>3007984Loved it. Didn't really care about the Greys but one less revenged-fueled enemy is a good thing. Honestly I just want to test out [DRAGON FORCE], though I do admit that this isn't really a good place to test it on since our enemies are very skilled.
>>3007984>Relieved or disappointed how quickly the last of the Greys was defeated?After all the bullshit Nefarious put us through, I'm just glad he wasn't much trouble.>Ready to fight Jotaro and Star Platinum, and then Lord Boros?Ready to crush Jotaro then move on to Boros.
>>3007985The Unmovable Ki Body won’t be as effective against Star Platinum as it would be against Boros or other purely physical attackers.>>3008005It’s going to be an interesting fight, that’s for sure.>>3008014>Didn't really care about the Greys but one less revenged-fueled enemy is a good thing.Very much so.>Honestly I just want to test out [DRAGON FORCE], though I do admit that this isn't really a good place to test it on since our enemies are very skilled.Testing against Jotaro would probably be a bad idea, as Star Platinum excells in close-quarters fighting. Although, perhaps you can unlock some of Dragon Force’s other abilities...>>3008015>Ready to crush JotaroBetter move quickly, he’s not aiming for a drawn-out fight with you. He watched part of the war, after all. He’s not confident he can outlast your insane stamina.
>>3008005Honestly, I'm thinking we just flash up to Ascended for a sec, use the Energy Body to tank whatever hits he tries to land in stopped time, and then pummel him. Star Platinum's tough, but we're way faster and stronger with Ascended, so if we endure the beating in stopped time with Energy body I'd think we'd bee able to smash him before he can use it again.
>>3008086I was thinking more along the lines of giving him a trunks'ing, putting bunch of holes through his limbs and bleeding him out.
>>3007967In the name of the man that goes by, "I AM THE HYPE", Krypto, like a bitch.>>3007985>>3008005>>3008014We don't need energy body you guys, Full power energy explosion, even a small quick an dirty one, will be more then enough to damage him when he comes near us.>>3008037>Although, perhaps you can unlock some of Dragon Force’s other abilities...\You have my erection.Also read this entire fight with the theme song, pic related.>>3008086At this point energy body is a waste, and a gimmick. Just because we can technically use it, doesn't mean we should.>>3008097If we could do that then cool, that would work.....if it wasn't Star Fucking Platinum hitting us.
>>3008108Consider this for a moment....Does karn need to be able to move his body to attack?The answer is of course, no. As it has been for a long time.Guided scatter beam.
>>3008125Better idea, Guided Scatter Beam Prison, on ourselves.
>>3008037>Although, perhaps you can unlock some of Dragon Force’s other abilities...I thought it seemed a little weak as it was.
>>3008086It’ll certainly be an interesting fight.>>3008097Jotaro has proven he’s succeptible to piercing attacks.>>3008108Kek.>>3008125>Guided scatter beam.Would be far harder than Death Beam. You could guide one or two, maybe, hitting an enemy from behind.>>3008144>I thought it seemed a little weak as it was.It isn’t an overly powerful Stand, on it’s own. But it is certainly a Berserker stand, sacrificing defense and safety for power and pure destructive capabilities.
>>3008097Jotaro might be expecting that, are we sure our death beams can go through magazines?
>>3008191So, could we train that last ability out of our Stand, down the road? I'll admit I could see it having some interesting applications, but as things are it makes our Stand really situational. Without it I feel like it'd be a lot more versatile. Having a giant awesome Dragon is kind of useless when said Dragon is a giant glass target that's damage gets reflected on to us.
>>3008220>He thought magazines would block shit thrown by a vampire or a stand userSee it's shit like this that reminds me Jotaro is a sheltered teenager.
>>3008291Yeah but he didn't die, so.
>>3008291It totally worked, though.
>>3008220Kek. Honestly the OVA did that part better with the boards.>>3008261While taking damage makes it exponentially stronger, remember: it’s still a Stand. Only a Stand can hurt another Stand. Against non-Stand users, it’s nearly unstoppable.
>>3008324It's not others hurting the Stand I'm concerned about (Well, it's kind of others hurting the Stand I'm concerned about), it's the fact that it makes us and the giant Dragon about as tough as a piece of tissue paper. Power's nice, but I'd be pretty okay with it not increasing our offensive ability in exchange for it not giving us a huge, glaring weakness.
>>3008347It's another weapon in Karn's already impressive arsenal. He'll just have to be careful with it since it isn't an Omni-Stand like Star Platinum or THE WORLD.
>>3008347>it's the fact that it makes us and the giant Dragon about as tough as a piece of tissue paper. Power's nice, but I'd be pretty okay with it not increasing our offensive ability in exchange for it not giving us a huge, glaring weakness.It is a situational weapon, like many of your other attacks.>>3008434>He'll just have to be careful with it since it isn't an Omni-Stand like Star Platinum or THE WORLD.This. [DRAGON FORCE] isn’t a gamebreaking ability. Yet.
>>3008484Wait, it breaks through ANY defense, right?So what counts as a defense?could it even kill an immortal?
>>3008508Dragon Forcing our fist through Kars does sound fucking awesome, but Event Horizon from orbit sounds a lot more permanent.
>>3008523Well, of course you've got to vaporize the body.
so why has no one made the obvious synergy between [DRAGON FORCE] and berserk?
>>3008553Because no one felt like dressing as Captain Obvious, Carl.
>>3008562first my names not carl second i wasn't sure if everyone actually saw the connection so i thought id give people a reason to double check and finally since we are playing the name game i declare that your title is now major asshole
>>3008595Shut up, carl.
>>3008595You suck Carl, stop stealing your grandpas captain threads, the nursing home called.
>>3008324How hard would Crypto have fucked us if we had failed on both rolls? Would you have at least made him live up to his crazy shit from Destroy All Humans!, or what?
>>3008605>>3008622ha okay i got a laugh from this so now i'm going to ignore you.and now to the thread who's up for useing a Ascended Super Saiyan dragon fist on the shard of trigon in raven's mind?
>>3008678You're such a faggot, Carl.
>>3008678Carl, did you steal grandpa's cognac too? You know you cant type when you do that, I'm calling a cab you lightweight.
>>3008508It could potentially destroy Buu>>3008523Nuking from orbit can be effective.>>3008655He could potentially have done some damage, and you’d have to fight both of them at once.>>3008678>and now to the thread who's up for useing a Ascended Super Saiyan dragon fist on the shard of trigon in raven's mind?You can try. However, it is an integral part of Raven’s dna. Trigon will have influence in her mind until you either kill Raven, or destroy Trigon himself.
>>3008678Carl pls stop
>>3008702>or destroy Trigon himself.Looks like we're going on a road trip to hell. Who should we take with us to kill Trigon?
>>3008710we should probably wait until we are swole enough to beat him as badly as we beat his mind shard
>>3008710Would not recommend traveling there until you’re at least strong enough to take down Ozotto or Perfect Perfect Cell.>>3008735You’d have to be really, REALLY strong for that
>>3008807we're gonna need more gravity
>>3008807what will our odds be if we go after him after we master either Super Saiyan god or primal Super Saiyan and what about if we master both?
>>3008812Ha.>>3008826>Super Saiyan GodWould cause much more damage than he’d expect.>Primal SaiyanWould be a harder fight for you than as Super Saiyan God.>BothAt the point you’re able to master both, your base would be strong enough to defeat Dabura, much less Trigon.
>>3008484>It is a situational weapon, like many of your other attacks.But can we make it less situational? Or are Stand traits one of those things you can't really change? Not really bothered if we can't shore up the weaknesses, we'll just keep it on the backburner as another thing to work on, but if we CAN do something about it's big weakness then I'd want to get started on that soonish.
>>3008919>But can we make it less situational?Not quite. As you unlock more and more of it’s abilities it can however work in a wider variety of situations. As many of you may have alreay deduced, it can potentially attack in a more traditionally dragon fashion.
>>3008919It says "Potential: A" on our Stand Sheet for a reason my friend.
>>3008966can it 'shout' thobecaus fus ro da ing somebody with a stand would be funny
>>3008966>it can potentially attack in a more traditionally dragon fashion.Oh shit, we can use it to kidnap princesses? Oh hell yeah.
also damnit we still need to fiddle around with grav hammers and ki
>wake up>go to work>supervisor went on vacation>decide to check on my favorite quest since things stared to heat up>we now have a StandGD you can't do this, all this Hype will kill a man.
>>3009992karn is the hype
>>3009198You’ve barely scratched the surface of what it can do.>>3009470Kek>>3009569Double kek.>>3009608Would be good to experiment with the limits it can withstand.>>3009992>GD you can't do this, all this Hype will kill a man.You talk about hype, I was hoping to be into the battle with Jotaro. Blueballed for another week.
>>3010306So can we channel Ki through「DRAGON FORCE」? I mean I'd think so, if Joseph can channel Hamon through Hermit Purple, but can we do stuff like fire attacks from it's mouth?
Reminder that Young Vegeta travelled through the cosmos to keep the Zoldyck girl safe, and absolutely not because he wants to court her.
>>3010471but of course, who in their right mind would think such a thing, just look at how safely she is as she holds her with his, truly the best protector.
I just realized, we're most likely gonna see crypto again along with alot the other plebs karn has murked.
>>3010326Wat?>>3010329Yes. And yes.>>3010471Ha.>>3010473Did you forget a few words?>>3010485At least once, maybe more times.
>>3010523 when we do the hell raid with doomguy, we are going to have to fight nefarious and godzilla again arnt we
>>3010523>she holds her hand with hisfug
>>3010529Perhaps. Although right now, those souls you killed over the past several years aren’t in Hell.>>3010531Lewd
>>3010548what does aku get first dibs on the souls of everyone we kill or something? or is the Bloodstone also a massive Soul Gem or some shit
>>3010554Watch Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans, and you’ll see exactly what I mean
>>3010554The old Tuffle dude from Plan to eradicate the Super Saiyans has basically been collecting the souls of everyone we’ve killed in those weird soul sphere things he has so he can use them against us by marking use of that weird Smog stuff he has. Basically.
>>3010558>>3010583So how about we.... don't.... kill..... the Arbiter?
>>3010326I see that you watch Teachs streams as well
>>3010622By the time he shows up as a vengeful spirit he'll be small potatoes.
>>3010575Ha.>>3010583Yes.>>3010622Where’s the fun in that?>>3010718That depends. After all, far many more souls absolutely hate Saiyans at this point than they did in canon. Hatchiyak will reach full power far sooner.
>>3010733It's okay, we got still got time.The way I see it we should just barely be ready for him when he comes.
>>3010733Baby Hatchiyack when?
>>3010733Legendary Super Saiyan Karn vs Hatchiyak ftw.
>>3010718>tfw arbies shows up>is only half as strong as Karn>but has infinite respawnsI dunno mang. Being unable to be put down for more than a few seconds is kinda a nice bonus to combat threat.
>>3010741>It's okay, we got still got time.>The way I see it we should just barely be ready for him when he comes>he thinks he’ll be readyWhen has Karn ever been really ready when shit hits the fan?>>3010763You’d better hope not.>>3010774Would be a very explosive battle.>>3010949With all the bullshit Destron Gas fighters can pull, plus how quickly the gas itself incapacitates Saiyans, you’d better hope you’re more than double his strength when Hatchiyak comes to town.
>>3011066I know not what this is. But yes.
>>3010986>When has Karn ever been really ready when shit hits the fan?Has anybody ever really been ready to take out Karn?
>>3011066What are any of those other creatures from?>>3011109>Has anybody ever really been ready to take out Karn?The Big Gete Star was. So was the Arbiter.
>>3011126>What are any of those other creatures from?Uncultured swine.
>>3011109definitely not trunks
>>3011126>The Big Gete Star was. So was the Arbiter.AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM!Obviously the only thing that can kill Karn is Karn.Clone Saga when?
>>3011170Shut the fuck up asshole, Nefarious would fucking do that!
>>3011170Rule#1: Don't give ideas that you might regret to your QM
>>3011186Nefarious, Lychee, and Orthopox could probably all do that.
>>3011191>>3011186>they don't want to fight something just as big and green as we areFucking do it GD. I dare you.
>>3011130>didn’t know what nier was>never played any metal gear>never watched/played most other mainstaysYes, this one is the one that makes me uncultured. Random /a/ furries.>>3011133Kek.>>3011170>AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM!To be fair, the Arbiter is still standing.>Clone Saga when?Even if you get cloned, the clone(s) wouldn’t automatically copy your particular perks, or even Stand. They could be physically identical, but that would be it.>>3011186He can’t do much, anymore.>>3011191>Rule#1: Don't give ideas that you might regret to your QMThat’s a terrible rule. Unless your QM drinks players’ tears.>>3011211Even it you were cloned, there’s no guarentee the clones could even go Super Saiyan.
>>3011220No, it's that combined with everything else.You uncultured swine.
>>3011220>Even it you were cloned, there’s no guarentee the clones could even go Super Saiyan.>They could be physically identical, but that would be it.Crisis averted then.However, assuming somebody with actual combat experience and knowledge of the Super Saiyan form (and how it's attained) pulled a Superior Spider-Man with the clone body, then we'd have a problem.
>>3011220There's something much much worse out there than simple clones.The X-Parasite. It copies everything from the target - memories, abilities, genetics. You name it, the only thing that's different is that it's all controlled by an amoral entity that wants to spread and consume now.Even worse, it can combine the traits of multiple copied entities.
>>3011220>Even it you were cloned, there’s no guarentee the clones could even go Super Saiyan.>get cloned>looks inbred as fuck>drools and speaks in the third person>insists it be called "Darklord King-God-son Karnotheus">but the motherfucker can go super saiyan fifteen
>>3011227Oh no, how will I ever recover?>>3011228That could be a much greater threat.>>3011236>X-ParasiteYes. That is much, much more dangerous.>>3011244...Why?
>>3011268You can't recover.Go play dragon quest before you lose your last few drops of autism you goddamn normieAnd don't even think about spending thanksgiving or christmas with your family, that's precious time you'll need to catch up on nier and metal gear.
>>3011268>...Why?Because science knows no limits. And also no ethics. Mistakes will be made.
>>3011294Oh no I wasn't a mistake. I was just a very, very poor decision.
also a shame i miss out on the stand name, i mean, dragon force is good, but ican think of two otheres right now, imagain dragons, and well, if we wanan get a bit mete, 'rock the dragon'
>>3011284>Go play dragon quest before you lose your last few drops of autism you goddamn normieKek. Actually I’m on the opposite end of that spectrum, Aspergers. My parents refused to get me tested, so they could raise me up to be “normal”.>>3011285Clones aren’t a very widespread thing. King Cold saw to that.>>3011321Picking stand name wasn’t actually a vote option, but I was impressed so many anons had the same thought I did
>>3011328It's only a problem if you're a total sperg.That said, you'd have to have a touch of the 'tism to run weekly.
>>3011328Asperger's only really matters if you're on the further end of it honestly. Most of the time it used to be misdiagnosed on the less severe cases. Because yeah, your kid has ADHD when he has no problem focusing and just hates certain shit. Having the school bus come straight to your front door isn't so bad though.>>3011328>Clones aren’t a very widespread thing. King Cold saw to that.>meanwhile in a big dumb green movie that should not beHe wasn't thorough enough to get that abomination out of our minds.
>>3011335>It's only a problem if you're a total sperg.If I hadn’t been working with the public since I was 16, I would still be. I have been forced to become (somewhat)social through work.>That said, you'd have to have a touch of the 'tism to run weekly.Ha. It takes something special. Including being so antisocial I’d rather run that quest all weekend than hang out.>>3011369>Most of the time it used to be misdiagnosed on the less severe cases. Very true. I learned not long ago that I didn’t talk until I was 3. Despite understanding words and speech.>He wasn't thorough enough to get that abomination out of our minds.He died first. Also Earth’s tech was well out of his empire’s wheelhouse.>>3011370Just be more social they said, you’re wierd if you don’t like going out and socializing they said.
>>3011392I've found a way to socialize, fortunately.Drink lots of moonshine.Depends on how much i've eaten, but after about 10 to 12 double shots in i start feeling good enough to make jokes at a party, and it goes over well.Then just use lots of beer to maintain that.
>>3011392>Just be more social they said, you’re wierd if you don’t like going out and socializing they said.I loved socializing and hanging out as a kid.TV and videogames were just better.
>>3011392I get the "Why are you so negative" line a lot. I'm not I just don't bullshit people. If you ask me how I am I'm not going to say that it's an amazing and wonderful day and life is great I'm just going to hit them with that "I'm alive.". People are just so used to backwards positivity that being flat and neutral about things sounds negative.
>>3011437You gotta make an effort to understand normie psychology."I'm alive" has a negative connotation because they'll assume that's the best thing you have to say about what's happened today, something you'd normally take for granted.Meaning, nothing good has happened today.A normie will take that to mean that something *bad* must have happened, even if you simply mean nothing good nor bad happened.Instead, go with "meh" or "i'm alright, how are you?""meh" is still slightly negative to a normie, but not enough that they'd be worried about it and wonder what the hell happened to you today. "I'm alright" is closer to true neutral, and the addition of "how are you" moves the conversation away from yourself, allowing them to start talking about whatever they want, at which point you can nod along until they get bored of you.
>>3011437Also, work on training yourself to use inflection, if you have issues with being monotone.Give the "I'm alright" a high inflection and nod your head slightly, like you've put an exclamation mark on the end.If you say it in monotone, you sound depressed or upset, leading a more perceptive normie to think that something's upset you, and you're hiding whatever it is.
>>3011467I get all of that. I just don't care enough to correct it. Personally I believe changing my mannerisms based on what's socially desired is pointless, people who know me get me and that's what matters to me. I'm not socially incapable I'm just honest. People say they want honesty until they get it. Being alive is a great thing, anyway. Can't even have a day if you aren't alive. But you can still have a day if you're dead. Thanks, Mexico.
QM QUESTIONSJust to switch topics a bit, a few questions to see where anons’ heads are at. What’s one area of the quest you think could use improvement? And what are your personal favorite/least favorite:>Moments>Arc(s)>Characters>Techniques/abilities
>>3011495Improved writing is the only thing I can think of, besides maybe having some of our more forgotten companions just show up without us needing to drag them there.
>>3011490Well, your 'tism runs deeper than mine, man.Trust me, the camouflage makes life easier.>>3011495>Favourite Momentswhen saff ate the spicy pepper>Favourite Arc(s)hive arc>Favourite Charactersorlen>Favourite Techniques/abilitiesdouble sunday>Where does the quest need improvementNot enough training arcs and one-sided curbstomps on karn's endIt's like you don't even grind before doing gym battles, bro
>>3011495Least favorite character? Cooler. Fuck that guy. "Busy" my ass.Ace. He's nothing. He's nothing that punches somethings. If only he weren't a silent protagonist. But that isn't your fault.Least favorite abilities are most of them, really. A lot of them are shared or non-unique. Too many of the ones we have are ignored just because we simply have other versions that are better or more iconic. Individually they're cool but all together we just have a list from which we draw a handful and that's it. Again not entirely your fault but still. Dragon fist turning out to be a stand is pretty cool, though.Favorite moment was when Frieza's icy heart melted for our little girl. So any time they share screentime.Favorite character is Future Chaya. Because Mira ain't shit with best saddest timeline daughteru around.
>>3011510>saffDamn, thanks for reminding me. I’d actually had high hopes for that quest, shame it’s kill.>It's like you don't even grind before doing gym battles, bro>not mirror leveling Charmander to Brock’s Onyx then Misty’s Starmie and still winning to assert your dominanceWeak.>>3011517Cooler’s a prick. I’m glad he’s been as well-received as I’d hoped. He’s going to be fun to write going forward.>spoilerSilent protag’s a shit.>movelist bloatTrue. But to be fair, several are specifically stated to be upgraded versions of other moves.>Dragon fist turning out to be a stand is pretty cool, though.Y’all have no idea how hard it’s been sitting on that and not letting it slip ‘till now. >favorite spoilerAgreed. The ultimate cute can conquer anything, even not being programmed for emotions.>Favorite character is Future Chaya.She’s a great addition, but her perspective is honestly the hardest for me to write from. “Naieve homeschooled war orphan” is probably the best way to phrase her; the mix of anger, curiosity, and stunted social ability hard to get right consistently.
>>3011611I assert my dominance by one-hit killing everything i meet.Sometimes you just gotta walk in and lay your dick out on the table, man.
>>3011611That reminds me, how did frieza like what we did to cooler? Is he happy that karn doesn't really like him either?How smug was he when cooler woke up in the pod? did karn's near-masochistic battle lust freak cooler out a little bit?
>>3011611Bring Saff in when Karn dies. Kaguya too. We can have a dead protag tourney.
>>3011680>one character is running around making funny noises and waving their arms>one character is shouting about battle>the other one is just fucking sleeping
>>3011698>Tofoo shows up because of course he's dead againOh what a grand old time it'd be.We can even bring that one Saiyan Swordsman in from Maleficar's one-shot quest.
>>3011625True, domination can be fun. Personally I prefer winning by the skin of my teeth through skill and luck.>>3011634>That reminds me, how did frieza like what we did to cooler? Is he happy that karn doesn't really like him either?Oh, Freeza enjoyed you beating Cooler. Was very therapeutic for all the shit Cooler’s given him over the years about his “pet monkey.” King Cold is far less amused by this, almost as unhappy as Cooler. He hopes you beating Cooler will motivate him to become better, once he stops sulking.>spoilerQuite a bit actually. Your attitude completely threw him off his game. He’s used to cowards begging for their lives, not hitting back and asking you to hit them harder. He was completely mentally unprepared for Karn.>>3011680You say that like this isn’t a mashup universe, and that dimension-hopping time travel isn’t either.>>3011698Kek.>>3011702>Tofoo shows up because of course he's dead againAudibly chuckled. Then I remembered Som’s been running again recently and it’ll inevitably happen again sooner or later, and laughed harder.
>>3011707>tfw Cooler comes back for round two and thinks he's ready>and Karn tells him to hold on while he finishes his telepathic phone call to his daughterHow angry would Cooler be if someone shushed him so they could finish a conversation? Asking for a friend.
>>3011716That pussy motherfucker isn't allowed to bitch. Running away an not teaching us how to teleport motherfucker, acting like he actually does shit enough to be busy. We are spooking and pranking the shit out of him for a month when we get it.
>>3011716>How angry would Cooler be if someone shushed him so they could finish a conversation? Asking for a friend.If it were Karn, quite possibly related.>>3011725>We are spooking and pranking the shit out of him for a month when we get it.That’s another way to do it.
>>3011729If we were to take off that mask, would he die?
>>3011495>Moments1. Karn going Berserk for the first time2. King Cold showing up to fight in the Covenant War>Arc(s)Covenant War (the whole arc was hype)>CharactersKing ColdKarnBorosKars>Techniques/abilitiesSu Ma Event HorizonOn a side note, I think once we've mastered our Stand and become powerful enough, we should create the Final Dragon Flash
interesting use for our stand, since is a chinise dragon, and apprently stupid strong. constricting the enemies stand and trying to crush it, and by extent, them
>>3011730It would be extremely painful>>3011733I really enjoyed both of those moments, they were both hype in their own way. I think the Covenant War is my best arc so far, I’m hoping this one is even more fun despite the mostly lower stakes.>On a side note, I think once we've mastered our Stand and become powerful enough, we should create the Final Dragon FlashNow that’s an interesting application.>>3011737Potentially. The angrier and more damaged you become, the larger and more powerful DRAGON FORCE gets.
>>3011716>cooler actually trains a little bit after being karn'd>just a little>meanwhile, frieza is busting his ass, and karn continues to break his body until it ceases to break before finding new ways to break it and calls that "training">cooler's being a smug prick as usual, thinks he's got this, even learned what a "push-up" is>karn lands in front of him, even more scarred up and bulging with muscle than last time>flashes up to ascended, muscles collapsing like a super dense star as lightning dances across his body>eyes twitching, he speaks>"Hey cooler... *heavy breathing through his teeth* Where's my instant transmission?">cooler's face when frieza telepathically tells him karn's power level>meanwhile in the time nest, trunks laughs at someone else getting perforated for a changeMoral of the story, don't dodge karn after promising him a technique.
>>3011776>Potentially. The angrier and more damaged you become, the larger and more powerful DRAGON FORCE gets.So how big is Karn's dragon when he goes berserk?That sounded less gay in my head.
>>3011716>I'M READY FOR OUR REMATCH SUPER SAIYAN!>Oh really? What else did Tatsu and Tomi break?>Are...are you ignoring me?>Hold on one second. Hey, I'm trying to talk to my daughter. Wait a damn minute.>YOU INSOLENT PRIMATE! I'LL HAVE YOU STRUNG UP LIKE->Would you please just shut the fuck for a minute? You aren't even gonna last long anyways.>YOU DAMNABLE MONKEY! I WILL VAPORIZE YOU AND THIS ENTIRE MUD-HOLE OF A PLANET!>Ooooh. Is that a promise? We all know how you are with keeping those.>pic related
>>3011783We may not have used it yet, but both are really fucking big, like so big Meloka couldn't take the fun one unless she breaks out the lube for her ass.>>3011780BOI, YOUR ASS IS NEXT! What Trunks doesn't know is that it isn't his ass this time, but Ace when he finds out he might have hit on his baby girl by accident.>>3011784REEEEEEEEEEEE, before a deep breath and squeak as we kick him in the dick.
>>3011788Man, i feel like we ain't hanging out with frieza enough.
>>3011806We're both busy, but you right.We still need to get another match in with him and get some training in together.
>>3011806When we get our shit from Cooler then we can do that.
>>3011806He's a pretty busy guy. Maybe we could contact him and see when he's free.
>>3011819Maybe for his birthday? What would he like?
>>3012253Getting piss drunk and going space pub crawling/burning/bum fighting. Gotta show up Arctus at some point.
>>3012253I think a fight and a nice dinner with Frieza would be good.We could have a nice shin-dig. Maybe even invite Turles and Blackfire. Hell, Boros could come along too.
>>3012268....dude, everyone on that list, except Freeza do to a poor sheltered upbringing, would be turning pubs inside out for a weekend as a fun day off. Well, except now that Turles and Blackfire being together now, they would probably just fuck their way out of the bathroom through the rest of the building, and take whatever booze survives the public onslaught.
>>3012268Chaya would probably offer him a cute drawing of Uncle Freezy.
>>3011780Ha.>>3011783Kek.>>3011784That’s a good pic related.>>3011806You can call him anytime.>>3012293Shit, now I kinda want this
>>3012338Do it, have cuteness incarnate give Uncle Freezy a hand drawn family picture. You know you want too.
>>3012341Dammit, I’ll admit I do want this.
Man, there's so many tests I want to do with our Stand, once we've got some off time. How does it react to Ki? If we can transfer Ki attacks into it, can we amplify the destructive power? Is it affected by our own Ki attacks? Can it manifest from a beam for a surprise attack on enemies that think they've dodged? How does damage transfer relative to it's size? Can we manipulate it's size (Within the confines of whatever it's maximum size is at the time)? Is there any way to deactivate some it's abilities to make it more combat viable outside of situations where we need to punch above our weight class? How does it's size scale relative to our power level? Do Tatsu, Tomi, or Chili have Stands, or the potential to manifest Stands? Most importantly, would it turn a cool neon green if we went Berserk? Questions we'll have to find the answers to with some experimenting later, I guess.
>>3012500you missed an obvious one for once we get super siyan god.how does it react to godly ki
>>3012576Figured I'd wait to test that one down the line, along with how it'd react to Oozaru. Y'think we can make a one man double Final Flash by charging one up in it's mouth and one in our hands and fusing them together?
>>3012584I like this train of though.
>>3012500>How does it react to Ki? If we can transfer Ki attacks into it, can we amplify the destructive power? Is it affected by our own Ki attacks? Can it manifest from a beam for a surprise attack on enemies that think they've dodged?Just ignore your QM muffling himself to avoid giving out spoilers>Most importantly, would it turn a cool neon green if we went Berserk?Perhaps.>>3012576Now you’re asking the real questions >>3012584>OozaruUnfortunately no. It is incompatible with Oozaru and Golden Oozaru forms.
>>3012594Also curious about how「DRAGON FORCE」will react to the Demonic Ki we get from the Timebreaker Seal when we activate it.
>>3012623>Just ignore your QM muffling himself to avoid giving out spoilersOh well, guess we’ll find out later. So how exactly does our Stand’s size scale relative to our power? If we Ascend for example, does it get 100x larger, or just 10x?
>>3012629Good question.>>3012679Not quite a 1:1 scale, but gif related is certainly within the realm of possibility.
>>3012716which movie was that form again? i think it was the one with the hirudigan or however you say it
>>3012721I think that's from GT
>>3012716It occurs to me that the whole "damage to your stand is transferred to you" because basically useless if the damage done to your stand is less than a half of a percent of its body. A death beam to it would be like a mosquito bite. If it got super fucking huge like that you'd need a really big fucking attack to really hurt it or Karn just due to sheer mass.
>>3012721That gif was GT, vs Eis Shenron.>>3012869>A death beam to it would be like a mosquito bite. If it got super fucking huge like that you'd need a really big fucking attack to really hurt it or Karn just due to sheer mass.Finally someone points the obvious(at least I thought so) out.
>>3012914zero def but a hp stat of yes
>>3012914>obvious>anything being obvious outside of figuring out ways to use it in bedPlease, we have priorities. Meloka has needs you know.
>>3012918Exactly. Plus that stacked with all Karn’s perks for taking damage and continuing to fight, it can realistically get to the point where another Stand using opponent can no longer noticibly harm you. If they’re strongest hit is by comparison a grasshopper leaping at your chest and biting you, does it really matter if they can still technically damage you?>>3012924>Meloka has needs you know.Right now, or at least when we resume next Saturday, Meloka’s #1 goal will be to go take on Boros herself while you fight Jotaro. Don’t forget, her base form is roughly where you were as a Super Saiyan when you fought against him all those years ago.
>>3012950>Don’t forget, her base form is roughly where you were as a Super Saiyan when you fought against him all those years ago.But Boros is disproportionately fast when he's doing his meteoric burst. What with using jet propulsion in addition to conventional means of movement. And as we all know the faster the object the more energy it possesses. He'd still be giving as good as he gets. And even major wounds hardly slow him down. In a war of attrition he stands a good chance so long as he isn't forced to rely on MB. But if he does he'll wear out relatively quickly.I like both fighter's chances even if I suspect Meloka will end up coming out on top.
>>3013049It will certainly be an interesting, intense battle. Depending on how Karn vs Jotaro goes, it may end up being next week’s epilogue
>>3013162I know boros probably has a fightboner for karn after that handshake, but is he expecting much from meloka?
>>3013165Not yet. When she smashes his armor, however...>hfw
>>3013197Hey buddy, that belongs to karn. Don't go getting too worked up, now.inb4 boros' heart goes doki doki but karn is too chad and he can't steal her away
>>3012914Ehhhh. I’d considered that, and I think that our Stand will be very effective in our fight against the Arbiter, since without his grenades and stuff were his only method of attack outside his sword, which will be useless against something as big as our Stand. The issue though is that most enemies in our weight class could obliterate a city sized area easily, even a continent wouldn’t take that much effort. Sure, our dragon can become massive, but it’s like a giant paper tiger. All it would take is a big explosion like the Event Horizon to wipe it (And us, by extension) off the map. It’ll be effective against duelist type opponents that aren’t able to produce a great deal of wipespread destruction and are specialized for fighting humanoid targets, like Jotaro, but the traditional DBZ fighter types would kill us easily.
>>3013204rember, stands take no damage form non stand shit
>>3013213Wait, what? They don't? That's overpowered as hell.
>He thinks the Arbiter doesn't have a stand
>>3013232>this guy doesn't realize the Arbiter IS a standShould have found the Truth.
>>3013203>Hey buddy, that belongs to karn. Don't go getting too worked up, now.Boros will be pleasantly surprised, he isn’t expecting much from her. When she proves herself to him, he’ll be more than eager for a strong opponent to fight against.>>3013204>I’d considered that, and I think that our Stand will be very effective in our fight against the ArbiterVery much so.>The issue though is that most enemies in our weight class could obliterate a city sized area easily, even a continent wouldn’t take that much effort. Sure, our dragon can become massive, but it’s like a giant paper tiger. All it would take is a big explosion like the Event Horizon to wipe it (And us, by extension) off the map.QM furiously biting a hole in his tongue to avoid revealing too much before you all explore it’s limits yourselves.[DRAGON FORCE] isn’t quite as weak as you’re portraying. Plus the Stand itself can only be harmed by other Stands.>>3013213This>>3013216This doesn’t mean it can block powerful hits for you, since Karn’s been hit while using it before. But to non-Stand opponents, it doesn’t make a giant glass target to hit.>>3013232>>3013234Kek.
>>3013235>This doesn’t mean it can block powerful hits for you, since Karn’s been hit while using it before. But to non-Stand opponents, it doesn’t make a giant glass target to hit.Yeah but trying to hit someone when a snake the size of New York is bodyslamming you is problematic.
>>3013235Hm, well, if Stands are the only thing that can harm it then I guess that removes that major concern for me, I was worried that it'd just be a big, vulnerable target to our enemies. That just leaves the defenses it takes off of us. So does「DRAGON FORCE」only do away with most of our natural defenses, like the toughness normally afforded by our skin, bone and muscle, or does it do away with any kind of defenses we try and use? Because further developing and using Energy Body as a buffer to block attacks when we're vulnerable seems like a much more attractive idea, if it would remain effective while「DRAGON FORCE」is activated.
>>3013241Quite. [DRAGON FORCE] can get rather massive, with a proportionally powerful strike.>>3013271When you use it, it reduces most of your own defenses. However, if you try and use Unmovable Energy Body while using your Stand, something different will happen. Same with many of your other moves, gif potentially related.
>>3013309ahhhh, i really want to see legendary karn fire a final flash using dragon forceis this what it's like to be megumin? to feel the love for explosions so deeply?
>>3013309>using a non dragon to desribe dragon focenoob detected
>>3013321whoops dropped a pic
i have just seen something terffying
>>3013328Oh god what the fuck!
>>3013321It's in the Dragon egg group, it counts.
>>3013317>Legendary Karn [DRAGON FORCE]It will be a rather swole dragon.>is this what it's like to be megumin? to feel the love for explosions so deeply?Wait ‘till she sees Karn using [DRAGON FORCE] more, and figuring out the damage it can cause.>>3013321Needed snek lazor, found snek lazor. This one better, since it’s a dragon?>>3013328Wut?
>>3013336>Needed snek lazor, found snek lazor. This one better, since it’s a dragon?much better
would like to point out the increase stregth and length of our stand means a whipliek tail strike grows explonentially stronger as it gets bigger,but yeah final flash as a breath weapon? fucking awsome
>>3013346That'd be one hell of a way to get rid of the excess energy from legendary.Just dump it into our stand and let it rampage on the enemy while coating it in fluid ki body for armor.And of course, with karn sitting inside it's head, you'd have a hell of a time getting to him...And even if you did break through somehow, he's still a goddamn legendary saiyan berserker...
>>3013309>When you use it, it reduces most of your own defenses.Hm, so Immovable Energy Body is an option, but probably not one we want to invest too much into, since it precludes us from attacking (Can we attack with Eye Beams while we're using the Unmovable Energy Body by the way?). Guess the next best thing will be to work on polishing our Su Ma to a high level. The focus on evading and counterattacking suits a situation where we've got little in the way of defenses. Instant Transmission will probably make Su Ma even more effective at evading attacks, when that Scrooge Cooler finally stops putting off teaching it to us.
>>3013357From the sound of it「DRAGON FORCE」doesn't need the Energy Body armour, unless we're fighting others Stands we're the only one between the two of us that's vulnerable to attacks.> And of course, with Karn sitting inside it's head, you'd have a hell of a time getting to himOh shit, I hadn't thought of that, is that can option?
>>3013369We'll definitely be fighting other stands in the future though, so it's important to think about these kinds of things.Plus, even if non-stands can't actually hurt dragon force, that doesn't mean they couldn't potentially pierce into it with a strong enough attack and hit karn inside, so coating it in fluid energy body probably isn't a bad idea regardless of what we fight.Think of dragon force like a giant mecha, and legendary karn is both the pilot and the power source.
>>3013346There will be time for testing. I wouldn’t suggest trying to START with Final Flash however.>>3013357Oh it’ll definitely be able to smash in that form.>>3013358I’ll say this, but I really don’t want to spoiler anymore: using your other regular attacks/abilities while using [DRAGON FORCE] will produce different effects than usual.>>3013369I’ll say this, controlling Berserker [DRAGON FORCE] is much harder than regular Berserker.>>3013388Good way to think of it. But Towa’s well aware that Karn now has a Stand, and can send him to even more different timelines now to battle a wider variety of opponents including Time Patrollers’ Stands
>>3013388And really, what we need to do here soon i think, is to make a more advanced version of ki body, combining both immovable and fluid versions into one perfected technique.The idea is simple, but would take practice. Simply coat the whole body, excepting joints, in immovable ki body.And of course, the joints are coated in fluid ki body instead, at the same time.Far stronger than just pure fluid ki body, but you retain your full range of movement at the relatively minor cost of only partially armoring your joints.Once karn masters that technique, he should then work on keeping it active 24/7.
>>3013388Yeah, my plot senses are tingling. I predict, in the future, a Stand Arc, where we have to track down one or more Stand Arrows while battling whoever had managed to acquire the Arrows(s) and their servants, alongside Jotaro, Joseph, and possibly with the assistance of Josuke, Giorno, or another of the Jojos.
>>3013441Probably not going to be for a while, but I think the chances of one such Arc happening eventually are fairly high.
>>3013441And the one with the arrow will of course, be kars.
obviously we need to help the ginyus unlock theri stands. the we will have the best timeline
>>3013409Wait, Karn has a Stand now? When the fuck did this happen I am so behind shit.
>>3013450turns out Dragon fist was our stand all along.
>>3013452Awesome. The dopest of fists.
>>3013446...oh my fucking god, the ginyus with stands.you goddamn genius madman. this isn't a desire, it's a NEEDas in, i NEED this like i NEED to breath oxygen.
>>3013410That’s far down the line, requiring control far beyond what you can currently do.>>3013441The better question is how will you and Future Chaya defeat the Mira(s) with Stands, and get the arrow for your Towa?>>3013446Guldo, to be fair, could easily beat even Jotaro and Star Platinum right now. A few seconds vs over a minute of moving in stopped time is a huge difference.>>3013450I’ve been hinting at it for I believe over a dozen threads, and finally revealed it.>>3013454Ginyu begs the question: Is a Stand part of the body, or the soul?
>>3013468>Ginyu begs the question: Is a Stand part of the body, or the soul?Poses come from the heart!
>>3013468pretty sure soul since fighting sprit is a derivitive of willpower, which is part of the mind and thus, soul
>>3013468Ginyu begs the question: Is a Stand part of the body, or the soul?The soul seeing as Dio has 「ZA WARUDO」 while Jonathan would have had Purple Hermit II/The Passion
>>3013328>>3013329>>3013330>>3013336Get on my fucking level
>>3013472Not wrong.>>3013475>>3013502But that’s what I mean. Would Ginyu gain access to a Stand by switching bodies with someone who has one? Would there be two identical Stands, or would the ability to conjure a Stamd stay with the soul? I’m actually not sure, will have to loredive.>>3013515Back over the border with you
>>3013518The intended implication here was that ginyu's stand would be pose-based, likely one that buffs his own abilities depending on the pose used.And that yes, stands are manifestations of one's own soul.
>>3013518If Ginyu went into someone else's body who had a stand, he'd probably end up retaining that body's original stand as well as manifesting his own unique stand.This means he'd have two stands at once.I'm using Dio as an example for all this so it may just work like that.
>>3013518I'd say Ginyu would have his own stand, plus the stand of whoever's he's currently possessing.
guys, what would it look like if we used Red Dawn though our stand
>>3013468>defeat the Mira(s) with Stands, and get the arrow for your Towa?>>>3013446Probably by shit talking them into making gigantic mistakes because Miras are a bad combination of idiocy and stubbornness. Basically Vegeta if he had Goku's IQ. They don't even know why they feel why they feel, those damn bags of hammers.
>>3013216It's been speculated that they can only take damage from other spiritual manifestations, which are pretty much only Stands in the JoJo-verse. They are immune to 99% of physical attacks which could include Ki.Might want to be careful about whipping it out against enemies that are magical or who may be at least partially spiritual in nature, such as actual holy warriors, demons, or enemies that have access to weaponry/techniques that can harm spirits/ghosts.
>>3013526>>3013531I just remembered the answer: Alessi was a thing. His Stand’s power is he ages people backwards who’re caught in his shadow. Despite Jotaro winning, he’d lost Star Platinum temporarily as he lost his adult body. Just like Polnareff his soul was still intact, but as his body changed his connection to his Stand changed as well. So I believe that Ginyu would either gain the Stand, or the original Stand user would start back at square 1 developing it again. Or both.>>3013560I would REALLY suggest starting small.>>3013565>Might want to be careful about whipping it out against enemies that are magical or who may be at least partially spiritual in nature, such as actual holy warriors, demons, or enemies that have access to weaponry/techniques that can harm spirits/ghosts.All of this. The Guardian, by his profession would be able to see and counter them. Guts’ sword could certainly cleave a Stand in two, and beings such as Aku or Trigon may be able to cause some damage to them.
>>3013585>that have access to weaponry/techniques that can harm spirits/ghosts.All of this. The Guardian, by his profession would be able to see and counter them. Guts’ sword could certainly cleave a Stand in two, and beings such as Aku or Trigon may be able to cause some damage to them.I suddenly got an image of the Yu-Yu Hakusho crew having a brawl with the JoJos and their Stands.I have never known that I needed something so badly until now. Except maybe if the Real Ghostbusters were somehow involved.
>>3013585>I would REALLY suggest starting small.So what you're saying is we should try a ASCENDED BERSERK MAXIMUM EXPLOSIVE WAVE FINAL BIG DOUBLE DEATH GUN attack?
yeah we probably going to start with a simple energy wave or energy spear
Reminder that Heaven Ascension Dio and The World Over Heaven transcend universes and timelines and Jotaro must fight him eventually
>>3013673I can't wait until we meet Josuke
>>3013673i hope so, that means Kakyoin, Avdol and Iggy will still be alive.
>>3013594That could get dangerous, fast.>>3013595Kek.>>3013619Starting small is best, to make sure you can handle it.>>3013673But has that Jotaro already fought him?>>3013687Could be interesting.>>3014080Poor poor Iggy. 2nd best Crusader.
QM UPDATEI’m too excited for the fights this weekend to do any epilogue justice. In the meantime, it does bring up an interesting point: which fight up to this point was your favorite?
>>3014209>which fight up to this pointGee GD you're killing me with that, i can't use my future knowledge of the spar against the Golden Cold clan or the Infernal Tag Team Tournament in Hell (featuring Doomguy and Dante from the Devil May Cry series) if you do that.Episode 51>which partYesif we're talking single battles everytime we spar with Freeza
>>3014209>which fightLiterally every time we fight Freeza but also every time we fight Godzilla>which curbstompTrunks getting annihilated with Guided Eye Beams in the Big Gete Star ALLOWED ME TO CHEAT DEATH HOW COULD THIS BEEEEEEEE?!?!?If you play it right, Karn VS Arbiter 1v1 duel can be the best fight in the quest so far, until the day we get Karn with a bunch of transformations VS Full Power 100% Golden Freeza, televised start to finish across the whole universe, and it ends in a mutual KO after a regular fistfight
>>3014193>But has that Jotaro already fought him?Probably not. Star Platinum hasn't evolved yet.
>>3014218Time Patrollers get out reeeeee!>if we're talking single battles everytime we spar with FreezaCan’t disagree. I’ve enjoyed the evolving battles with Freeza, and getting to use his different forms early on to emphasize his strength.>>3014230They’re fun to write.>Trunks getting annihilated with Guided Eye Beams in the Big Gete StarWas a good crit. The BOY got what was coming to him then.>If you play it right, Karn VS Arbiter 1v1 duel can be the best fight in the quest so far, until the dayI’m hoping it’s as good as I want it to be.>spoiler:^)>>3014270Is it the same Jotaro though? Time travel multiverse theory can be such a headache
>>3014280Well, it's definitely not Heaven Ascension DIO's Jotaro. That guy's dead.
>>3014280Please use pic related at some point in the quest
>>3014280And please do not make fucking Heaven Ascension DIO or anything from Eyes of Heaven canon. It's such a bad Jotaro wank fanfiction I can't fucking believe the nips made Araki do it. It's not as bad as all of Jorge Joestar novels, but FUCK man - there's a limit to how much fanfic shit you can have until you go full retard. Eyes of Heaven's plot was retard, but Jorge Joestar was FULL RETARD.Please do not do this GDQM.
>>3014319>I can't fucking believe the nips made Araki do it.wasn't Araki the one who wanted to do it?
>>3014319I think it had interesting elements. People have been wondering what would have happened if DIO had been able to enact his plan ever since Pucci did it anyways, so it was fun as a bit of a what-if.
>>3014284True.>>3014316If the opportunity arises.>>3014319We’ll see what happens. I have the broad strokes for the next several arcs already lined up.
I just had a few wild thoughts.>Dragon Force Requiem>Heaven Ascension Karn
>>3014477Wonder what「DRAGON FORCE REQUIEM」would be like. Some sort of 1 hit kill maybe?
>>3014493Requiem stands seem to evolve abilities based on their user's strongest desires and needs at the time. These abilities aren't necessarily related to the stand's ordinary abilities.
>>3014507True enough. Wonder what we’d get if we got pierced by a Stand Arrow? Kira got Bites the Dust, so I’m curious about what we’d get.
>>3014513Bites the Dust was basically a requiem stand, but Slightly Different since the arrow pierced him instead of his stand.This is just bullshitting, but I personally think it's more or less the same, except your stand doesn't gain autonomy or undergo an aesthetic change - it still does get a power related to what you desire most at that moment, though.
QM QUESTIONThe time is soon approaching. with your challenge to the Arbiter to be aired soon after this battle royale: how will you fight him? What is your plan for finally winning a fight against him, and putting him down for good?
>>3014975WE'RE GONNA FUCK HIM UP THE ASS
>>3014975Failing >>3015001, the obvious tactic would be a war of attrition.Play it safe and keep our distance until he exhausts all of his equipment.After that we can start picking him apart. Once he's suitably sloppy/crippled, that's when we can go for the kill.The hard part about all this is gonna be keeping up with him and not getting too banged up ourselves.Ideally we shouldn't pop Berserk or use our stand until we absolutely have to.
>>3015030Honestly, on the contrary, I'm thinking we use our Stand right out the gate, if the conditions are right. Against our usual opponents who fight hand-to-hand and with Ki attacks, I;d prefer not be use it so brazenly, but the Arbiter can't really do Ki attacks, and we've never seen him use a gun either. While our Stand would be a risk against normal opponents, who's punches and kicks would likely become capable of crushing bone and probably internal organs as well if they connected while our defenses were nil, the Arbiter's primary mode of attack is his sword. And even when our defenses are at a normal level his sword cuts through us regardless, so using「DRAGON FORCE」probably wouldn't change how effective his attacks are.
>>3015030I otherwise agree with attacking from a distance and making him exhaust his supply of grenades and such while using「DRAGON FORCE」to keep him at bay. When we've suitable injured him we can probably deactivate「DRAGON FORCE」and close for close quarters combat.
>>3015001That seems a tad bit out-of-character. Eating his corpse’s heart on stage, though...>>3015030Attrition may be a good way to fight it, but that gives him more chances for killing/crippling you with his swords.>The hard part about all this is gonna be keeping up with him and not getting too banged up ourselves.Very much so. You don’t have the Champion power-up you fought against him with last time, but this will be the first time you’ve fought against him completely fresh.>>3015072It could work, and good point about the sword already penetrating your defenses. >>3015083However there’s another weakness with your Stand you’re not familiar with yet, dealing with your transformations.
>>3015119Does it become progressively harder to control the bigger it gets and the more we power up??
>>3015119Or does it somehow inhibit our ability to transform while active? Or possibly vice versa?
>>3015151No. Unless you go Berserk or try and mix it with Towa’s Demonic Ki.>>3015153Nope. However, every time you’d used it before learning it was a Stand, it was as a Super Saiyan. Those times it was rather large, while when you’re in your base form it is small enough to wrap around your arm.
>>3015173ah, its growth speed has a cap doesnt it
>>3015183Hm, that could be a problem. If we've got a planet to fight the Arbiter on we can probably maintain our distance long enough for it to grow to full size though.
>>3015183>>3015212Nope, since in Super Saiyan it appears in a far larger size than it’s ‘normal’ form. Just like you, going Super Saiyan affects your Stand as well. With almost all the perks and drawbacks that come with it.
>>3015284ah, stamina drain
>>3015284Well yes, we knew that much. Does the amount of power manifesting and maintaining it drains from us increase as well when it gets bigger an stronger then? I guess that would be something of an issue.
>>3015315>>3015320Ok I’ll go ahead and explain how this works before the fight with Jotaro, and go ahead and update the Stand page on this as well. Super Saiyan and your other forms do and will affect [DRAGON FORCE]. However, your Stand also is a huge draw for your ki, most of the power going to sustaining it instead of you, leaving you the bare minimum power to stay transformed and draining your power far faster.
>>3015411>tfw you're out all day and can't reee at anons who haven't figured it out yet
>>3015411So it's literally a 100% all out attack in that it draws on karn's ki to the absolute limit, no matter what that limit is.Like how light always goes at the speed of light, not because it's trying really hard but because it only has one speed to begin with.
>>3015729Sometimes things need explained, and aren’t intuitively picked up on.>>3015769Kind of. You can certainly dump 100% into it. However, a Stand is a psychic extension of one’s fighting spirit. When going Super Saiyan (or Ascended, Primal, God, etc.) your Stand is also changed. Maintaining that change requires most of that energy that you’d normally gain access to when transforming, instead boosting your Stand’s abilities. And the larger and more powerful DRAGON FORCE gets, the faster it drains you until either you dissipate your Stand or you both revert back to base form.
>>3015851>Sometimes things need explained, and aren’t intuitively picked up on.That's fair. And I'm sure there are some things that I haven't gotten that others saw right away. I'll still reee though. It's in my blood.
>>3015851I'd say karn's fighting spirit is pretty damn close to 100% at all times, to the point that he's literally found a way to stare people to actual death, because he wasn't satisfied with being unable to kill with his eyeballs. He has also broken his own bones from the force of his own attacks and repeatedly curbstomped people he *really* shouldn't have been able to, through the sheer fact that he is karn.Guts. Karn. Doomslayer. Orcbolg.Get them together in one room and see if you don't purge the whole fucking universe.Oh hey, that reminded me in a roundabout way...Did trunks see karn's one moment of weakness, when he cursed himself for not being able to save more saiyans?
>>3015769>light always goes at the speed of light because it only has one speedAnon, I...
>>3015851So when we transform with「DRAGON FORCE」active, Karn doesn't really get any stronger, since「DRAGON FORCE」is sucking up all of our Ki? Bothersome. Can we work on lowering the power upkeep necessary to use it so we can do stuff personally when it's still active, or would that be a pointless endeavor?
>>3015939It's an incredible oversimplification, i know.
>>3015954It's also wrong, a quick google search can tell you as muchhttps://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/01/150123144158.htm
>>3015943There is one thing to consider.Overly-bulky forms like ultra super saiyan, or even ascended ultra super saiyan could be useful even if they're trash in any other situation, as long as they increase karn's power output.>>3015961I know, that's why it's an oversimplification.https://www.dictionary.com/browse/oversimplification
>>3015970It's only oversimplification when the core premise is supposed to be technically correct, but a terrible misrepresentation of it.The core assertion (light having only one speed) is incorrect, thus it's worse than mere oversimplifying. It's oversimplifying the incorrect idea.
>>3015970Ehhh,「DRAGON FORCE」's speed scales with ours, just like it's power, so using Ultra Super Saiyan would slow it down as well.
>>3015875From all of us who were cast down from /tg/, the reee lives on inside of us.>>3015896Not wrong.Kek.>spoilerHe saw. He’s still confused by you. You’re not a traditional monster, but you’re not a good person either. Having doubts and worries shown really humanizes you in his eyes.>>3015943You still transform, however most of that power goes into your Stand instead of being at your disposal. While your Stand is out, you’re unable to use your regular energy attacks anyways.>>3015970Could be a good thing, however the slow will also apply to [DRAGON FORCE]. May be worth it, depending on the particular circumstance.
Before I forget, after the battle Royale we should have Jotaro summon Star Platinum in front of our kids just to see if any of them might have Stand potential as well.I bet Chilli is gonna be the one.
>>3015995>>3016103So would Ultra Super form make our Dragon look like Parunga?
>>3016524Kek, nice image. And you can try.>>3016649Not quite. Try Berserk
>>3017088leavin this here
>>3017490You make a convincing argument, here is my retort, can she survive being mating pressed it 50x gravity for maximum impregnation chances?
>>3017513She is older than him, I suppose she could be part of his harem, if she cant blow him up hard enough to declare wife status.
Ah, yes that reminds me. QM, how old are our kids again? I know Chaya is around 6 but I forgot the rest.
>>3017490Classic.>>3017499No. Her body’s far too soft.>>3017514Ha.>>3017517>Ah, yes that reminds me. QM, how old are our kids again? I know Chaya is around 6 but I forgot the rest.Chaya and Broly are almost 6. Chilli’s 3. The twins are infants.
>>3016103>Could be a good thing, however the slow will also apply to [DRAGON FORCE]. May be worth it, depending on the particular circumstance.I mean being proportionately slower doesn't have as much of an affect if you get to be as big as the empire state building on top of a train balanced on a 747. You just have less distance to move since you're so big. OF COURSE BURTER WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM DODGING! AS HE IS THE FASTEST IN THE UNIVERSE (Disclaimer: Karn, Ginyu, Frieza, Cooler, Cold, Meloka, The Arbiter, Lord Boros....[three hours later] and lastly Guldo are faster)!Being Burter is suffering.
>>3017713>Soft bodyPerfect, Broly can mold her to him
>>3017772dude, they are not old enough to do that kinda thingbegon pedo
>>3017768Technically Guldo is still slower, as Burter’s movements are faster. Guldo is just stopping him in over a minute now of frozen time.>>3017772Anon no. Broly’s far too young for that.
>>3017894But Guldo can get from point A to point B before Burter. Sooooo really it's like Guldo is the fastest. And Jotaro is just behind him. But Hit is slower than those two since he doesn't actually stop time. I think that's great about Hit's gimmick. He's straight up skipping time. So if you can out mind-game him you can hit him even after he timeskips because he can't see what happens between the beginning and end of his timeskips either.Or did they fuck that up too later to make him seem even "cooler"?
>>3017894>Guldo is better at Jotaro's gimmick nowHa
>>3017894Soon, our boy Broly shall be a pimp, if by accident. Chilli too, but for milfs, cougars, Christmas Cakes, and Onee-Sans. In that order.
>>3017904Just because he can stop time doesn’t mean he moves faster. He still moves at the same pace, just while everything else is frozen.>I think that's great about Hit's gimmick. He's straight up skipping time. So if you can out mind-game him you can hit him even after he timeskips because he can't see what happens between the beginning and end of his timeskips either.True. And he can use that stored time as he did against Jiren, slowing or even freezing his opponents in time.>>3017905He’s been better for awhile. But the cardio has really improved his recovery times between uses.>>3017910Kek. We’ll see what happens.
>>3017967Yeah but he can move while others can't. Ergo .1 mp/h is faster than 0 mp/h. Truly, a speed demon.Hit did get some creative (read: Asspully yet ultimately useless) abilities. Man when we meet Guldo next is he going to be a foot taller and have abs?
Quick sketch of [DRAGON FORCE] for you all, to give you all an idea of it’s scale at it’s weakest power.>>3017979Stopping time doesn’t make you faster. It just keeps others from moving. Guldo won’t be taller, but his cardio has gotten much much better. Despite getting wounded in battle, he’s still training his Time Freeze.
>>3018045Shhh. We all know Guldo is the ultimate speedster. You can fight it but it won't change the facts. Guldo can move further in less time than any of his comrades. Guldo must be very fun at pool parties being able to hold his breath for so long. But if that lad hasn't lost a bit of his tubby-ass we're going to make him train hard enough to die. Almost.
>>3018055>AlmostExcuse you? We will kill that midget or we wont when we throw him into our training regiment. There is no middle here.
>>3018062>making the rest of the Force sadFriends no kill friends. Unless friends go crazy and get stupid forehead tattoos. Then fucking do it.
>>3018055Moving outside the flow of time doesn’t count when comparing the movement speeds of two individuals. Their rate of movement doesn’t change, despite slipping out of the normal flow of time.>>3018062>killing Freeza’s top bodyguardBut why?>>3018072I’ll say that Guldo has plenty of forehead for one.
>>3017967What would guldo think if he knew how much insane power and potential karn thinks he has? That he's the strongest in the ginyu force, and could potentially kill almost anyone?How's that for a fuckin' confidence booster.
>>3018080>Moving outside the flow of time doesn’t count when comparing the movement speeds of two individuals. Their rate of movement doesn’t change, despite slipping out of the normal flow of time.See now you're just adding handicaps. Face it, Burter is the fourth fastest of the Force.>I’ll say that Guldo has plenty of forehead for one.I wonder what's more ugly, Guldo's 7-head or Guldo with hair.
>>3018080Also when are we going to teach guldo his ultimate offensive technique - the eye beam?
>>3018082Would definitely be a confidence booster.>>3018083Not adding a handicap. His movement speed is ‘x’, regardless of whether time is stopped or not.>I wonder what's more ugly, Guldo's 7-head or Guldo with hair.Good question. No clue.>>3018085Would be a very devastating technique in his arsenal. Along with his psychic abilities, Covenant Energy Blade, and Time Freeze, it would be another deadly weapon in his arsenal.
>>3018116>guldo starts doing gravity training with karn while he teaches him eye beams>loses the pot belly, grows 5 feet, now looks like a jojo character>goes back to the rest of the ginyu force after a year>"o-oi, mate, is that you? is it really guldo?">guldo looks down at his own calloused hand, his arm rippling with muscle as he clenches his fist and closes his eyes>"The karnage training program is a hell of a drug, jeice.">burter faints on the spot
>>3018126>now looks like a jojo characterTo be fair, he’d look more like a Stand.
>>3018126You're forgetting the most important part>his pose game now rivals Ginyu's
>>3018126I'd prefer if he just looked the same with his armor on, but underneath he was a ball of muscle.Think of a high STR Dwarf build.
>>3018176>that greentextIt already does. How do you think he got on the team?
Also gravity training would just make him shorter. Or kill him.It's a tossup really.
>>3018182>implying any of the Force can rival Ginyu as they are nowNaw, they're the best around (outside of the JoJos, obviously) but Ginyu is just the greatest poser in the world.That sounded less dickish in my head.
>>3018200And by world I meant universe. But it has been a long week and I've been fucking up the entire time so fuck it I'll roll with it.
>>3018200To be fair, it's probably really hard to do any good poses with Sangheili legs.Ginyu has his work cut out for him.
QM QUESTIONWith the Arbiter battle drawing near and your gravity training having reached it’s current limits, death a real possibility in the upcoming duel. What methods of training would you all like to pursue? After the battle royale you will have several options available. You could get Meloka to teach you the Power Ball and begin working on utilizing the power of Golden Oozaru, continue working on enhancing your control over Berserk, or trying to find a power past an Ascended Super Saiyan. You could also focus on martial technique; not trying to overpower the Arbiter but instead out-skilling him. Or you could work on refining your newly-realized Stand powers, testing the limits and capabilities of this new ability. You could work on learning and mastering techniques your allies know, some may know moves designed to fuck up the interiors of energy-based shields. There are many possibilities out there; but your time will be limited and only so much can be done in each day. How you train could play a major role in either your success, or in your death.
>>3018216You have a point. But he will not be deterred from creating the perfect pose for his now digitigrade legs. We have to raise our hands to the sky and give him all of our creativity.
>>3018220well at least if we die we get an notherworld traning arc, but im leading towrads getting the hang of golden great ape
>>3018220I want to work on improving su-ma by mixing it with jeet kune do and wrapping our arms and legs in the impenetrable ki body technique.
>>3018220>continue working on enhancing your control over Berserk
>>3018220>How you train could play a major role in either your success, or in your death.I mean, I’m pretty confident we could take out the Arbiter even now, without whatever training we manage to get under our belt before the fight, but extra assurance is always good. I think our best bets, assuming we go by our usual “Pick three” way of doing things would be to work on mastering Berserk, continuing to discover the capabilities of our Stand, and either further refining our Su Ma, or focusing only on Berserk and our Stand, so we can get the maximum gains for them. SSJ3 is extremely strong, stronger then Berserk by a fair margin I’m pretty sure, but unless the power drain got seriously nerfed we’d be lucky if we could maintain it for more then a minute before we were completely exhausted, and Golden Oozaru, while also extremely powerful, has too many obvious weaknesses for me to think of it as a viable combat option, especially when our opponent specializes in using a cutting weapon.
>>3018744Another (Probably somewhat better) third option would be to have Vox or someone else whip up some heavily weighted training clothes, so we can take the gravity training just a step further before we need to have Freeza’s brainy bois upgrade the gravity chamber again. We could probably work out a good system for the early parts of our Berserk training where we spend the day working ourself to the point of near exhaustion with gravity training before going Berserk and trying to maintain control over it. I still think our best bet would be to forgo a third option and work on getting the most we can out of Berserk and our Stand though, provided that’s possible.
>>3018744No Berserk would still be more powerful by the time we could get SSJ3, and we wont be getting that form or needing it for that matter, for a real LONG time. And Golden Oozaru would be able to curbstomp him easily, but as it stands holding Berserk for a few minuets to piledrive Arby would be easier than trying to master it without blowing up the planet we stand on. Plus set up for using it may well backfire horribly, and is thus the most unreliable. >>3018752All of this though is an excellent idea and I second all of it. Except the stand part, we only have one trick and all playing with it would accomplish is wasting time. >>3018220Berserk control, turned up gravity training, and Su Ma Training. Base upgrades will always benefit us.
>>3018766I'm pretty sure the SSJ3 multiplier would surpass whatever we get while Berserk (It's 400x, and strong as Berserk is I can't really imagine it multiplying our power more then 200x, when there's other further forms of it we can unlock), but I would also prefer we work on controlling a form we already have access to rather then gamble on hopefully getting a form we probably wouldn't be able to utilize to it's full effect anyways due to the massive energy drain. I do disagree with regards to our Stand though. The pastebin on it shows it has at least seven other different abilities we can unlock for it. Even assuming three or four of those are related to channeling Ki abilities and attacks through it, which we've already predicted, that still leaves a few abilities we don't know the nature of. Besides, the Arbiter is probably one of the opponents are Stand would be best suited to combat. The loss of durability wouldn't be much of a negative effect for us if we can exhaust his grenade supply, since his energy sword would cut us regardless, and outside of his grenades he has no usable ranged attacks, so as long as we can exhaust those, maintaining our distance and pummeling him with「DRAGON FORCE」, which he can't damage, would be a fairly viable strategy.
>>3018798We have been over this already you guppy, pay attention when reading threads so we don't have to constantly repeat this shit.SS3 is weaker than Berserk and Primal Saiyan is equal to it. We are completely and utterly incapable of getting SS3, and by the time we could use that inefficient power up we could already have access to Primal Saiyan. And guessing since you don't remember or don't know as a newfag, Primal is referring to SSJ4.As for the Stand all we use it for is putting holes through targets, and wasting time trying to upgrade it for a duel where we have to wear him down so he stays still long enough to hit him is inefficient. Doing everything else and killing him when we have the chance is better all round, as we have better killing techniques than just relying on a Stand just because you dumb fanboys find out we have one. We can work on the Stand against other targets.The Covie wont have anything but his swords, no grenades. Seriously, did you literally just get here when the Stand thing was revealed?
>>3018818I’m aware that Primal refers to SSJ4, I was around for the epilogue where the SKoT showed Trunks us beating Hit in the future, and Vegeta showing off Primal. I’d also initially assumed that the Arbiter would be fighting with only his sword, but after this:>You could work on learning and mastering techniques your allies know, some may know moves designed to fuck up the interiors of energy-based shields. I could only assume that he was referring to the energy shield device the Arbiter showcased before, which lead to the conclusion that we should expect at least that, and possibly his other armaments, among which I’d assume he would include grenades and that bullshit healing thing he used before (These are probably all Halo items, but I never played the games, so I’m not familiar with them.) As far as Berserk goes, I don’t really remember. I guess it would make sense for it to be comparable to SSJ3 or Primal, since it allowed us exceed 100 mil with a power level around 300k (I remember we were in between 300 and 400k at that point, anyways.) But that just seemed way too overpowered to me. I mean, I get that it’s been tough to control, but it being so strong that it would exceed SSJ3 despite only being the first form of it seemed insane. If the difference in power between base Berserk and whatever the SSJ3 equivalent is or Primal Berserk is comparable to the difference between SSJ and SSJ3 or Primal, then they’d completely blow every other power up out of the water, in terms of raw strength. SSB or normal Primal would be leagues behind them in comparison. The SSJ3 equivalent alone, if the difference were comparable, and assuming Berserk to be at the very least about the same level of strength as SSJ3 (And according to you that’s apparently low balling it), would be 3,200x.
>>3018951That's because you are trying to compare the transformations, to our ability to use them without base powerlevel taken into account. Its been explained time and again, that SSJ3 is so far beyond our capability to unlock that by the time we could conceivably use it, we would have access to SSJ4 as its stronger and more energy efficient form. Berserk is better than it at that level by the starting boost, and continuous power increase after that, with Primal being a bit further ahead of Berserk for a time unless we use Berserk when extremely pissed. And at that time it would be possible to combine those two natural forms, thus making this entire comparing scale meaningless. Go read the old threads, and stop talking in current threads until you read them. This same fucking conversation happens every other thread cause of you newfags. Should just put an explanation for this shit in the bin.....actually I am pretty sure that it is in the bin. On account of how often you chucklefucks ask this.As for Arby's tech, no, this is a honor duel in Vox's arena, only thing Arby gets is his energy swords, I think his energy shield, not sure about that, but nothing else. Did you actually just show up here again in this thread and the last when the words, we have a Stand show up, or did you just skip the explanation portion of the conversations we've been having here for the last month or so?
>>3018966>>3018951Also as a technicality, we could take one of our Gravity Hammers into the duel as well.
>>3018818It’s a bit rude to refer to someone as a guppy, by the way. With regards to our Stand, I think it’s a fairly decent tactic, and probably a good fallback option, which is why I suggested training it, but I’d take Berserk as the better choice, provided we can gain a measure of reliable control over it. I was all for using our Stand right out the gate when I thought it’s only drawback was the reduced durability, but now that I know we can’t do much personally when we’re transformed with it active, it becomes significantly less viable.
>>3018976As we are going to be fighting in Ascended Saiyan form the entire fight, unless we need to pop Berserk., unless we don't train to well with it and use that first but its not likely, then we will be using the giant dragon mode as standard. Arby will need to be caught flatfooted with no way to dodge, and we will be more caught up in a blade duel with our Death Beams and Eye Lasers going off in his face and trying to ventilate him. You need to remember that the Dragon Fist is a crowd wiper, not a dueler. Against swarms of Covenant ships, perfect weapon of mass destruction, against a small(or at least close comparable to our height) opponent, not that great. This will end in us having a duel on skill, and stamina. Ergo, uber gravity training, ask for some weighted gear in the meantime, Berserk maintenance as a back burner, and Su Ma Training first and foremost.
>>3018966I know that the logic lines up for Berserk being as strong as SSJ3, past evidence considered, but it just seems way too strong, assuming the differences in strength between the Berserk line of forms and the normal SSJ line of forms is comparable. Ascended Berserk alone would have a multiplier of 800x or more. If the differences between the Berserk forms aren’t as drastic as the differences between SSJ forms then it makes more sense, but if they’re comparable then we’re going to be so overpowered by the time we access Berserk Primal that no one else would stand a chance of beating us. The difference would be so massive between us and normal Primal it’d be laughable. I’m not disputing Berserk’s strength from an evidence standpoint, it just seems that narratively, unless there’s much less of a difference in power between the Berserk line’s forms, or the difficulties in mastering them are insanely large in comparison to the normal SSJ line, we’re going to be too strong with them.
>>3018982Hm, that’s fairly reasonable. I still think our Stand would be a good option, but Su Ma probably isn’t a bad choice either. Don’t mind acquiescing to Su Ma instead of our Stand, if the majority are more interested in that route. Little leery of getting into a sword fight with the Arbiter though. I know we’ve been practicing our Su Ma, and we’ll have the Eye Lasers and other advantages, but all he really has to train are his PL and his blade skills, so I’d think in a sword fight he’d still have an edge on us, especially since he’ll be prepared for a lot of our tricks.
Only around 22 hours until the next episode begins.>>3018226Could be interesting.>>3018235That Unmovable Energy Body is a long way from what you’re planning.>>3018744Possibly. But you have never beaten him yet. And good observation.>>3018752Vox doesn’t have anything like that available yet, or at least anything that could noticibly affect your training.>>3018766>Base upgrades will always benefit usTrue. But for now, your gravity training has reached it’s peak.>>3018966I’ll say this, you have no idea what he’d bring besides what you’ve already seen him use. I will say, he hasn’t come close to using all of his tricks against you.>>3018974You could.
>>3019302>That Unmovable Energy Body is a long way from what you’re planning.Are you sure you're not thinking about the idea to mix immovable with fluid joints?I'm saying just coat the arms and legs, basically up to just below the knees and elbows.That seems like it'd be almost as easy as coating the whole body.Still allows free movement but creates an extremely hard surface to block and attack with.
>>3019652Yes, because of how the technique works. It’s an all-or-nothing style move. You turn the aura around your body impossibly hard. It is so dense even you, able to work out while wearing weights in 1000x Earth’s gravity, can’t move. Localizing that to a specific part of your body’s aura without hardening the rest is still far beyond you.
>>3019737Well, you're the QM. It can't be helped if you decide anything of use is impossibly hard.
>>3019754You still have to learn the limits of what it can and can’t do first.You still in-character haven’t figured out another situatuonally-major weakness of the Energy Body techniques yet.
>>3019763Is it the fact it would trap all the air under it without letting any fresh air in?>>3019737Also why did the id change?
>>3019832>Is it the fact it would trap all the air under it without letting any fresh air in?Not quite>Also why did the id change?Because phoneposting QM had got off work and went home, and now finishing up TKD/Tai Juitsu practice
>>3020077>TKDI fell for that meme too. Save your money and start boxing.
>>3020164>going to a class>not just going out and getting into fights>not going to prison and getting into fights>not getting sentenced to death for beating tons of prisoners to death>not dying and getting into fights in hell>not beating the devil himself out of existence and ruling in an eternal fight clubI mean come on it's like you've never had ambition before.
>>3020164>memeNeed a better instructor then.>>3020227Kek. Calm down Doomguy
>>3020240TKD isn't bad if you don't fall for a McDojo, which is unfortunately the majority of them. I did four years of it before getting into Muay Thai. Sure as shit helped me with kicking.
>>3020261>McdojoGood rule of thumb is if the sensei can’t trace the dojo’s lineage through it’s instructors, avoid it.>Sure as shit helped me with kicking.This. Back when I started I couldn’t kick up to my own waist. Now I can standing front kick up to my own chest height with enough power to stagger.
Small sneak peak of tomorrow’s thread:“STAR PLATINUM: ZA WARUDO!!” Jotaro shouts as soon as you’re within a few feet, and before you can react, you’re blown away. You didn’t even see him move, but suddenly you see Star Platinum’s fist in right in your face, feeling as if a giant hammer was slammed into your entire body. You cough up a bit of blood, whatever he did hurt like hell. You backflip to reorient yourself, just in time to see Meloka’s attack below.“BASTARD!!” she shouts, transforming in a golden flash and charging headlong at Jotaro. You see Star Platinum move, striking an unaware Meloka square in the face a few feet short of Jotaro’s body. She gets stopped right in her tracks, Star Platinum attacking her with a shout of “ORAORAORAORAORA!!” Meloka’s knocked back as well, sent tumbling across the ground until she rolls into a crouch. You drop down beside Meloka as she rises to her feet, a bit of blood dripping from her mouth. “Dammit. I couldn’t even see him move!”
>>3020499Damn, how and when did jotaro get so stronk?Was is the gravity training?I bet it was the gravity training.It's always the gravity training.
>>3020510Well taking an attack you weren't braced for fucking hurts no matter who you are. Karn still hasn't figured out it's a time stop so he wasn't fully ready for a fist to the literally everything.Also Star Platinum has some serious biceps.
>>3020499Hm. Guess our best bet is to hammer him with so many attacks he can't escape, even with the ability to stop time.
>>3020609Or lay down a trap so the next time he thinks he's repelled us with star platinum we can catch him with his guard down.
>>3020609>wait for him to use the world>while it's recharging, grasp star platinum by the neck so hard that he can't pull karn's arm off, even in stopped time>red dawn
>>3020652Preferably of the underground or homing variety.
Saiyan Conqueror Quest 64 begins right now: >>3021270