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The trade district hasn’t changed much since you last stepped foot in it. Westerners still bustle about, clearly preoccupied with business pursuits. You side-step to avoid a group of Europeans, either Dutch or German, who completely ignore you. As always, some Shinsengumi occasionally mill about.

You grumble, looking to the side. “Okay, Harp should be in the tavern up here. That’s his favorite spot.”

You’re talking to Nakajima, who you discovered tailing you a couple minutes ago. He had apparently told the company to head back to the base without him, and he would accompany you as a bodyguard. By the time you’d discovered him following you, it was too late to send him back too. He nods, a serious expression on his face. “Understood, sir. Shall I wait outside?”

You shake your head, exasperated. “That won’t be necessary. Just follow me.” You walk toward the tavern, trying to avoid drawing any attention. You step inside, grimacing as the smells of bar life hit your nose. You look around in the dim light, seeing a familiar tuft of gray hair laying against a table near the back. “Nakajima, this way.” You nod in Harp’s direction, then begin walking toward him.

You get there and pour a glass from the half-empty bottle, taking a swig and waving the rest under Harp’s nose. He immediately springs up, raising his eyebrows as he looks from you to Nakajima, then back to you. “Colonel Stockton, Lieutenant Naka… Nakajima.” He nods drunkenly. “Good afternoon.”

You nod at Harp. “And the same to you, Major.”

He takes the glass from you, drinking the rest of the whiskey. “I don’t suppose you came here just to share a drink with me…”

You lean forward, resting your elbow on the table as Nakajima pulls up a chair and sits.

>”Actually, a drink sounds nice.”
>”Suppose you could connect me with your contacts? I’d like to find some arms dealers.”
>”Do you know of any ways for us to make some money on the side?”
>”We need to find Zorn. I want to see about making some unofficial purchases.”
>”Do you have any suggestions on things we can do to improve our situation?”
>Write-in.

>>2937296
>”Actually, a drink sounds nice.”

>"But you are right i'm not here just for that.But the things i would lime to discuss should be done at our base."

>”Suppose you could connect me with your contacts? I’d like to find some arms dealers.”

>>2937321
+1

and also
>>”Do you have any suggestions on things we can do to improve our situation?”

>>2937296
>”Suppose you could connect me with your contacts? I’d like to find some arms dealers.”
Like I said in the other thread, we need to at least try to improve our aoldiers situation in case the shogun fails to do so

>>2937296
>>”Suppose you could connect me with your contacts? I’d like to find some arms dealers.”

>>2937338
And after asking permission for the daimyo to acquire arms it would be quite emberassing if we have not at least scanned the options first.

>>2937296
>>
>>2937321
This please

>>2937356
True and we can compare and contrast the model. I love doing that shit

So while we are waiting what should we standardize the most?

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You grab the glass, pouring yourself a drink. “Actually, a drink does sound nice.” You then take a long sip before continuing. “And I’d like to discuss some things to be done to our base.”

Harp raises an eyebrow. “Like what?”

You sit the glass down, continuing. “For now, I’d like to get in-touch with your contacts, if I can. I’d like to find some arms dealers and speak to them.”

Harp nods, taking a swig from the bottle. “I’ll introduce you to some of the people who do looking around for me… But I honestly don’t know if we’ll be able to find those dealers here in Edo. Like I said, I don’t know where exactly they are.”

You frown. “But I’m sure your contacts know of others. There are bound to be more than the three they found initially.”

Harp grimaces, scratching his chin. “I’ll see what I can do. Follow me.”

Ten minutes later, the three of you are by the docks in the trade district. Harp leads the three of you to a small building on the waterfront. He knocks on the door, and a Westerner in rather fine clothes opens it. He leads the three of you into a very European-looking foyer. The man leaves, asking the three of you to wait.

You lean toward Harp, whispering. “What is this place?”

Harp sighs, having sobered up during the walk. “This is the office of my most well-connected contact…” He grumbles, lighting his pipe. “Well, one of his offices, anyway.”

“Office?” You raise an eyebrow, looking and your well-appointed surroundings. “Fancy place for an office.”

“Indeed, it is.” A new voice makes itself known. You all turn to see a man enter the foyer. He is rather unassuming, with a round face and a bald head. He is maybe a bit taller than you, and looks to be nearing fifty. As he approaches, you notice two things about him that strike you as odd. The first is just how plainly-dressed he is, wearing a simple tan suit with a white shirt. The second thing, or rather things, you notice are his eyes, which look cold, distant, and cruel. “I understand you are an associate of my friend Mr. Harp.” Friend? This man doesn’t seem like the type to associate with Harp. He then turns to Harp. “It’s good to see you again, Bill.” He then addresses all three of you. “Shall we go up to the actual office? I can assure you, it’s far more comfortable than the foyer here.”

>”Who exactly are you?”
>”How do you know Major Harp?”
>”Lead the way.”
>Write-in.

>>2937732
>”Lead the way.”

Harp will tell us in time.

>>2937732
>>”Lead the way.”

>>2937732
>”Lead the way.”

>>2937732
>”Who exactly are you?”
>”Lead the way.”

>>2937732
>”Lead the way.”

>>2937732
>”Lead the way.”

>>2937732
>>”Lead the way.”

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“Lead the way,” you reply.

“Very well.” The man smiles, turning on his heels. “My office is this way.” He leads the three of you through the door he emerged from, then up a staircase to the second floor of the building. You all arrive at a set of large double doors, which he opens casually. “Here we are, gentlemen. Home sweet home.” He leads all of you into a well-appointed office, complete with bookshelves covering one wall, and a large window at the back. He walks over to a large, wooden desk and pulls a chair out. “Please, make yourselves at home.” He gestures to the two couches sitting parallel to each other just in front of his desk, with a coffee table in the middle. There are two American flags at the head of the room, one on each side of the large window. Strange, you weren’t aware of any US government institutions in Japan, well, besides the Consul General, of course. Looking out, you see that it gives a beautiful view of the harbor.

You all sit on the couches, and when you look back you notice that the man who answered the door has followed you, and stands near the double doors. You assume him to be some sort of butler, but there’s an overly-perceptive air to him, almost a cautiousness.

The man rests his elbows on his desk, looking at you. “So, what is it I can help you with?”

You frown, looking around the office. “I’m… Not entirely sure.” You look at the man, leaning back into the plush couch as you do. “Who exactly are you?”

The man raises an eyebrow, then sighs quickly. “Ah, of course. I sometimes forget to introduce myself.” He smiles as he leans back in his chair. “My name is Edgar North. And I assume you are the Aizu Domain’s new military advisor from America, Colonel Stockton, yes?”

You nod. “That’s true. How did you know of me?”

Edgar North chuckles lightly. “I know a great many notable people here in Japan, and if I don’t personally know someone, I at least know of them.” He frowns, then grimaces. “Oh, but where are my manners? Would the three of you like some refreshments? Coffee, tea, perhaps lemonade?”

Nakajima raises an eyebrow. “Lemonade?” He struggles a bit with the pronunciation.

North nods. “Yes, it’s a lovely drink made from sweetened lemon juice.” He looks to you and Harp. “I assume the two of you will have coffee, then?” You nod, as does Harp. “Very well. Smiths,” he calls to the butler by the door. “Two coffees and a lemonade, please.” The man nods, leaving without a word. Looking back to the mysterious Edgar North, you see that he is smiling good-naturedly resting his chin on his hands. “Now, Colonel Stockton, what would you like to discuss while we await our drinks?”

>”I would like some information on arms merchants operating in Edo and the surrounding areas.”
>”I’m afraid you have me at a disadvantage, Mr. North. You know what I do for work but I don’t know anything about you.”
>”I was attacked recently on the way from Edo to my camp. Do you have any idea who might have been responsible?”
>”How exactly do you and Harp know each other?”
>Write-in.

>>2938461
>>”I would like some information on arms merchants operating in Edo and the surrounding areas.”
>>”I’m afraid you have me at a disadvantage, Mr. North. You know what I do for work but I don’t know anything about you.”

>>2938462
>”I would like some information on arms merchants operating in Edo and the surrounding areas.”
>”I’m afraid you have me at a disadvantage, Mr. North. You know what I do for work but I don’t know anything about you.”

>>2938462
>”I would like some information on arms merchants operating in Edo and the surrounding areas.”

>”I’m afraid you have me at a disadvantage, Mr. North. You know what I do for work but I don’t know anything about you.”

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“I’m afraid you have me at a disadvantage, Mr. North.” You lean forward. “You seem to know quite a bit about me, but I know virtually nothing about you.”

North nods. “Yes, that’s how I prefer to do business.” He chuckles. “But I suppose I should indulge you with some more information about myself. Let’s start with some background.” He leans back further in his chair. “As I’m sure you’re aware, over a decade ago, Commodore Matthew Perry opened Japan to the West with what the locals refer to as the ‘unequal treaties,’ though if we’re being honest, all treaties are unequal to someone. Anyhow, as a result, the United States and Japan became politically involved with one-another.” He gestures to one of the flags. “My job is to ensure good relations between the two parties at the ground level. Whether it is the building of telegraph lines using American materials, or the dispersal of Japanese-English dictionaries to new traders arriving from the West, I facilitate good will and peace of mind.”

You raise an eyebrow. “So you work for the Consul General?”

North nods again. “In a somewhat unofficial capacity, yes. Before that I worked at the American embassy in Paris.” He smiles distantly. “What a lovely city. Anyway, that’s the overview of my occupation. Now I believe you came here for something, most people don’t make my acquaintance for purely social calls.”

You frown. The man is obviously not telling the whole truth, but you’ll just have to accept it. “I’m looking for arms dealers. Ideally ones in and around Edo.”

Edgar North raises an eyebrow. “Arms dealers? I certainly know of a few, perhaps even some you could meet today, if you were to learn of their exact whereabouts.”

“And I assume you have that information?”

North chuckles. “Of course I do. Information is vital to someone like me, so it pays to stay informed. The question is, what are you willing to trade for it?”

You grimace. “I don’t have any substantial cash on me.”

Edgar shakes his head. “No, no, Colonel. You've got it all wrong. Money is fleeting. Information is far more valuable to me. Secrets for secrets, what do you say?”

>”I think I’ll look on my own.” (leave)
>”The Shogun is preparing a major military expedition. I don’t know where or when though.”
>”The Aizu Domain has set a goal of training and equipping at least fifteen-hundred modern troops.”
>”There are at least two active Confederate officers in Edo. Possibly more.”
>Write-in.

>>2938649
Well, you do know a lot about me, so what would you like to know?

if he doesn't ask for anything we offer this:
>>”There are at least two active Confederate officers in Edo. Possibly more.”

>>2938671
O mean, we ain't giving him our employers most sacred secrets for a fucking arms dealer,

like he said, all treaties are unequal and if he wants that he can go fuck himself because that is unequal as fuck

>>2938649
>>”There are at least two active Confederate officers in Edo. Possibly more.”

>>2938649
>>”There are at least two active Confederate officers in Edo. Possibly more.”

Information is information, he may give us shitty dealers but it’s a start

>>2938649
>”There are at least two active Confederate officers in Edo. Possibly more.”

If that won't be enough just give him this:
>Write-in: "You must be aware of the base the Shogun is using to train his mordern forces? I was spoken that in we are expected to increase the number of recruits in morden warfare."

Don't give him exact numbers and he will raise a eyebrow at this news os a increase in the build of mordern soldiers and it will explain why we are looking for arms dealers.

>>2938671
supporting this. Ask what he wants to know.

>>2938649
Backing this >>2938671

“There are two Confederate officers active here in Edo. Possibly more.”

The smile immediately fades from North’s face. “Confederates? I assume you mean that they still support the idea of the Confederacy, and haven’t surrendered.”

“Correct,” you nod.

North frowns. “I see. It isn’t surprising, really. Still, it is good to know for certain.” He leans forward. “Now for my end of the bargain. You said you wanted the locations of arms dealers in and around Edo. Do you have any other criteria?”

You shake your head. “No. I’m just shopping around at the moment.”

“Duly noted. The first person I would point you to is John Herringold.” North raises an eyebrow as the butler enters with refreshments, he hands everyone their drinks quietly and exits without a word. “Mr. Herringold is a longtime associate of mine, he actually helped us ship some French prototypes to Washington during the War. I’ll write his contact information down. The man deals mostly in small arms, rifle muskets and the like. From what I hear he’s got some contacts in the armories back home, apparently they’re selling off surplus stock now that the War is over.” North writes the information on a piece of paper, handing it to you.

“He’s in Yokohama. Where exactly is that?” You look to Nakajima who sets down his nearly-empty glass of lemonade, wiping his mouth.

“It is nearby, sir. The city is far more westernized than even the trade district of Edo.” He immediately takes another sip of the lemonade.

“The lad is right.” North continues. “Yokohama is like a little slice of America.” He shrugs. “Well, at least it was before the British put a garrison there. Anyhow, let’s move on to the next candidate.” He takes out another piece of paper and begins writing. “The next person you should consider is an Italian named Enzo. He’s a bit of a strange young man, but he is unbelievably passionate about his trade.” He hands you the piece of paper.

“Okay, any others?” You look at North, who nods.

“I think there might be another useful merchant. I don’t know his name, but I know he lives at the British garrison facility in Yokohama. He’s connected with the Crown to a degree, but likely has access to the latest in weapons technology.” North looks up at you. “Did you know they’ve managed to make reliable breech-loading cannons? I know the old ones used to explode if you looked at them wrong, but apparently they’ve got it down to a science now.” He shrugs. “I’m afraid I don’t know any way to get in touch with the Englishman though, you’ll likely have to visit the British Garrison, or send a messenger.”

>”Thanks for the assistance.” (leave)
>”Something tells me you aren’t just a diplomat’s subordinate. What’s your real job here?”
>”Have you ever heard of an arms dealer named Hermann Zorn?”
>Write-in.

>>2938820
>”Thanks for the assistance.” (leave)

I'd rather not name drop folks until we know more about this dude.

>>2938820
>”I was attacked recently on the way from Edo to my camp. Do you have any idea who might have been responsible?”
>”Thanks for the assistance.” (leave)

>>2938820
>”Thanks for the assistance.” (leave)

i don't know if there is anything else we want to discuss and the info we have isn't our to sell/trade.

>>2938840
We saw the faint colour of grey confederate uniforms. But that could have being just our mind playing tricks to us.

They were with the people who are opossed the Shogun and the daimyo plan.

>>2938820
>>”Thanks for the assistance.” (leave)

>>2938820
>>”Thanks for the assistance.” (leave)

I'm surprised they are selling surplus but it seems conversions are going a bit slow.

Anyway, I want to take a look of how much the british are selling but I want the small arms to be french.

>>2938820
>>”Thanks for the assistance.” (leave)
Nakajima really loves lemonade apparently

“Thank you for the assistance,” you stand up.

“Of course, Colonel.” North stands up as well, shaking your hand. “Feel free to drop by anytime. I’m sure we’ll have more things to discuss in the future.”

“Possibly.” You nod, then look to your men. “Alright, let’s go.”

A few minutes later, the three of you are walking back toward the main part of the trade district. “So what are your plans now, sir?” Nakajima adjusts his cap, looking around attentively.

“What do you mean?” You raise an eyebrow at the man.

“Well, sir, how do you plan on proceeding regarding these arms merchants?” He frowns, looking thoughtfully ahead as he rubs his chin. “While their services could certainly be useful, there is always the possibility that Lord Matsudaira will not approve the funds needed to do business with them…”

“That’s true,” you nod. “But it doesn’t hurt to shop around.”

Harp is the next to speak up. “So which one should we seek out?”

>”The Italian. I’m curious what he can bring to the table.”
>”John Herringold. We need tonnage, and the US is full of surplus weapons that it’ll be trying to get rid of.”
>”The Englishman. High-tech weaponry may be expensive, but it could prove to be the lynchpin that gives us a key advantage.”
>”Let’s go back to the base and send out letters to all three. We’ll try to get them to come to us and show what they can offer.”
>Write-in.

>>2938982
>>”The Italian. I’m curious what he can bring to the table.”
>>”John Herringold. We need tonnage, and the US is full of surplus weapons that it’ll be trying to get rid of.”


I want to see what the Italian has but more importantly we need arms, cheap and idiot proof.

Especially for drilling, target, practice etc. Not to mention needing that surplus for logistics.

>>2938982
>>”The Italian. I’m curious what he can bring to the table.”
>>”John Herringold. We need tonnage, and the US is full of surplus weapons that it’ll be trying to get rid of.”


We can send the British guy a letter to see what he has in stock.

I’m curious if the itialian people keep bringing up and we need surplus.

>>2938982

>”The Italian. I’m curious what he can bring to the table.”
>”The Englishman. High-tech weaponry may be expensive, but it could prove to be the lynchpin that gives us a key advantage.”

>>2938982
>>”The Italian. I’m curious what he can bring to the table.”
>>”John Herringold. We need tonnage, and the US is full of surplus weapons that it’ll be trying to get rid of.”

>>2938982
>>”The Italian. I’m curious what he can bring to the table.”

>>2938982
>>”John Herringold. We need tonnage, and the US is full of surplus weapons that it’ll be trying to get rid of.”

“Well I think the first person we visit should be the Italian, Enzo.” You look over at Nakajima and Harp, holding up the paper with his contact information. “He’s located here in Edo, plus I’m curious what he has to offer.”

“Right,” Harp nods. “That makes sense.”

You continue. “Then I think we need to visit this Herringold guy as well. The US has plenty of surplus weapons they’re wanting to sell, I’m sure of that. We’ll need a supplier who can move tonnage if we’re going to arm fifteen-hundred men.”

Nakajima is the next to speak. “So we will need to travel to Yokohama today. Do we have enough money to hire a carriage?”

You nod. “Yes, I doubt it will be expansive if Yokohama is close.”

You glance down at the paper showing Enzo’s address. It isn’t far, maybe a ten minute walk. He’s based out of a hotel here in the trade district from what you can tell. The three of you walk toward your destination, not saying much as you try to maintain a low profile. Unfortunately, your uniforms draw more than a few stares from Westerners and locals.

Thankfully those stares don’t evolve into anything else, and you arrive at the hotel in particular un-harassed. The building is small, and built in a traditional Japanese style. The three of you enter the lobby and are immediately greeted by a female attendant.

“Good afternoon, sirs.” Her English is nearly-impeccable, spoken with a hint of a British accent. “Are you perhaps looking for a room?” She bows lightly.

“No actually,” you bow in return. “We’re looking for a customer of this establishment, a young Italian man named Enzo.”

The woman’s eyes light up. “Ah, yes Mr. Enzo. I shall go fetch him at once.” She gestures to a low table in the corner. “Please, have a seat. I shall be back soon.”

The three of you go over and sit at the table, waiting for the mysterious Italian. You rest an elbow on the table, resting your chin on your hand. “Think this will be a productive visit?” Harp raises an eyebrow, looking over at you as he lights his pipe.

“Hopefully,” you reply. “At the very least we’ll get to see what the Italians have to offer.” You shrug. Maybe you’ll gain a valuable contact out of this.

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And that's all for tonight. /qst/ going down made these last couple sessions far slower than I would like, but hopefully it won't happen again. As always, feel free to drop questions and stuff here and I'll try to answer them. Next session will be either Sunday or Monday. Thanks for playing!

>>2939239
Will it be in this thread or another thread?

>>2939245
This one. /qst/ tend to stay on the board for like 2 weeks before they go to archive.

>>2939239
awww,damn.i was busy researching possible weapons the italians might have.

>>2939258
OP you better say the Italian is Chef Boyardee Grandfather, or I'm dropping this quest.
Good quest OP, see you in the next one. That was a joke.

So having caught on most of what's happened (thread 4 didn't archive properly to my knowledge) I have a couple of ideas

>Sato's temperament makes him a good candidate for line infantry or cavalry and he could act as our poster boy for the conservatives and can show how the Samurai class can be integrated into the new model army

>As we are an infantry veteran we'll need Artillery officers to educate Artillerymen in our place

>considering the mess of cavalry doctrines floating around at the time I suggest we go with Cuirssaers as another method of integration with traditionalists and perhaps if politics allows it Carbine cavalry as scouts

>if there is a woman on our officers batch she should be thrown out if discovered not matter how competent they may be it strikes me as a bridge to far for traditionalists and we are likely to already be fighting an uphill battle with them anyway

>>2942015
>revolver cavalry
>Dive in, unload, fall back to reload and repeat.

>>2942015
>Sato's temperament makes him a good candidate for line infantry or cavalry and he could act as our poster boy for the conservatives and can show how the Samurai class can be integrated into the new model army
agreed, but I wouldn't focus on Stao since he seems to have a bit of a temper and we have loads of samurai members under our command

>As we are an infantry veteran we'll need Artillery officers to educate Artillerymen in our place
agreed

>considering the mess of cavalry doctrines floating around at the time I suggest we go with Cuirssaers as another method of integration with traditionalists and perhaps if politics allows it Carbine cavalry as scouts
that could work yes, but it would be difficult to train I imagine

>if there is a woman on our officers batch she should be thrown out if discovered not matter how competent they may be it strikes me as a bridge to far for traditionalists and we are likely to already be fighting an uphill battle with them anyway
completely disagree, we said that if someone completed basic training no matter what that person was in, and Aizu(the guy who hired us) fielded a female fighters during the Bozen war so I don't think it would be too much of a problem to them, even if it leaked, personally, if we discover I say we keep quiet about it and just talk with the person, if anything, a woman on the imperial side would be in a bad spot since the western powers would frown more over it then the Japanese. Besides all that, there is no woman in our officers anyway, Nakajima searched everyone and assured us there is none :^)

>>2942099
>agreed, but I wouldn't focus on Sato since he seems to have a bit of a temper and we have loads of samurai members under our command

yes but unlike certain members Nakajima of our group Sato is a staunch traditionalist and can be held up as a way to intergrate others like him into the new army

>that (Cavalry Cuirssaers) could work yes, but it would be difficult to train I imagine

not really you take the cavalry charges of the Samurai on horseback and adapt it to modern Cuirssaer techniques if not the armour, unlike Revolver cavalry or Hussars and lancers the Cuirssaer has more in common with heavy Cavalry of the shogun and less awkward to translate the old into the new.

the only real problem after that is their lack of verisatility which I imagine can be somewhat compensated for with the use of Skirmishers and Rifle cavalry.

>completely disagree, we said that if someone completed basic training no matter what that person was in, and Aizu(the guy who hired us) fielded a female fighters during the Bozen war so I don't think it would be too much of a problem to them, even if it leaked, personally, if we discover I say we keep quiet about it and just talk with the person, if anything, a woman on the imperial side would be in a bad spot since the western powers would frown more over it then the Japanese. Besides all that, there is no woman in our officers anyway, Nakajima searched everyone and assured us there is none

both East and west is still heavily sexist, if a female officer is discovered we are going to agitate even the most liberal among the shogun, it doesn't matter if female fighters existed during the Bozen war its simply a case of gender discremination of the era, if we can keep it under wraps then sure by all means let the officer continue doing their work for us BUT if they are discovered it will become necessary to consider dumping them as it will make enemies we can hardly afford to make while trying to promote a new model army.

>>2942200
>unlike Revolver cavalry or Hussars and lancers the Cuirssaer has more in common with heavy Cavalry of the shogun
AFAIK the primary weapon of a mounted samurai was a spear, so lancers might be closer.

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>>2942015
>thread 4 didn't archive properly to my knowledge
How so? I didn't have any issues with it.

>>2942344
It seemed to stop abruptly and didn't mention a segment I'd read by chance off the front page, might of just been a bad load.

>>2942283
I suppose I just got caught up in the whole armour thing with samurai thanks for that correction anon

>>2942344
It seemed to stop abruptly and didn't mention a segment I'd read by chance off the front page, might of just been a bad load or I missed something.

>>2942283
>Samurai cavalry use spears

I'm not surprised yet feel like a complete fool for not considering this.

>>2942283
No iirc they used arrows and bows. The spear was secondary

>>2942541
You're thinking of an earlier period.

Anyone want a list of Surplus from French, and American Stock?

>>2945904
Don't keep us waiting

>>2945904
Options are good

>>2946570
>>2946665
I’ll do it when I get home

Do you also need German, Austro Hungarian and British as well?

Okay, I got distracted but I'm going to post some notes on candidates (not including obvious front line rifles used for frontline infantry in armies but rather surplus stuff that are either outdated or used for second hand troops.

For now I'm going to start with French and each post will be of different nations (since I'm lazy)

French Pattern M1822: Essentially a minor improvement over the M1777 Improved model and M1816 muskets, Nepolian used during his campaigns but enough of them were that the French has a stockpiled of them and sold to the Americans in the Civil War. However they are smooth bore, flintlock muskets.

French Pattern M1822T: A converted M1822 to the new Percussion system during the 1840s, however still smoothbore.

French Pattern M1822Tbis: An Additional conversion to the previous model during the late 1840s-1850s to install rifiling into the barrel. However, this 'improvement' was considered a bit dangerous due to thinning the barrel.

Americans Used all three variants to some capacity during the civil war.

French Pattern M1840: A Percussion Musket with Devlgine rifling (Precusor to the Minie). Though a majority of them were smoothbore. Was made in limited numbers.

French Pattern 1842: A Refined version of the M1840 interms of manufacturing

French Pattern 1842T: Rifled version of the original model.

French Pattern 1853: Improved version of the M1842 smooth bore with a new bayonet.

French Pattern 1853T: Same model as before but with rifiling.

Will toy with Italy or Austrio Hungry later.....

You grimace as the hostess returns with a young man you can only assume is Enzo. He’s definitely young, maybe twenty by your estimate, and his eyes light up upon seeing your uniforms.

He immediately bows, then shakes your hand vigorously. “Good day, sir.” He grins widely. “My name is Enzo Fierro Beretta, but if you were looking for me then I assume you knew that already.” He speaks good English, though his excitedness (and nervousness) is quite clear.

“Enzo Beretta,” you nod. “Good day to you as well. My name is Colonel Daniel Stockton.” You then gesture to your men. “These are Major Bill Harp, and Lieutenant Shiro Nakajima.” Harp tips his hat, and Nakajima bows, upon being introduced. “I understand you are an arms merchant.”

Enzo shakes his head quickly. “That is perhaps an understatement, sir.” He motions to the table. “May I sit?”

You nod. “Of course.” You all sit down, with Enzo fidgeting a little bit.

“Colonel Stockton… To call me a merchant is not completely accurate.” The young Italian leans forward. “I am an artist.”

You raise an eyebrow. Perhaps North’s information was wrong? “Go on,” you say.

“While I can certainly be a middle-man for buying European weapons, that is not my specialty.” He points to Nakajima. “I see that your man here has a Needle Gun. It is Prussian, correct?”

You nod. “It is…”

Enzo leans forward. “I have always been intrigued by such repeating weapons. You see, Colonel, until a couple of years ago, I helped my family build guns in our workshop back home. They were mostly custom hunting rifles, double and sometimes triple-barrel guns used by nobles.” He nods at Nakajima again. “But I have always wanted to work with military arms.”

You frown. “So you’re a gunsmith.”

“A gun designer, sir. A craftsman.” Enzo puffs out his chest proudly.

>”You mentioned that you could still acquire European weapons. How so?”
>"You come from a gun-making family?"
>”What sort of designs have you made personally?”
>”You realize that custom-made hunting rifles are a world away from military rifles, correct?”
>”I came here to speak with an arms dealer, not a kid who thinks he’s the next Sam Colt.” (leave)
>Write-in.

>>2953444
>>”You mentioned that you could still acquire European weapons. How so?”
>”What sort of designs have you made personally?”

>>2953444
>>>”You mentioned that you could still acquire European weapons. How so?”
>”What sort of designs have you made personally?”

>>2953444

>”You mentioned that you could still acquire European weapons. How so?”
>”What sort of designs have you made personally?”

we got played by fucking mario of all people!

>trusting an italian
>ever

for fuck's sakes anons

>>2953444
>>”You mentioned that you could still acquire European weapons. How so?”
>”What sort of designs have you made personally?”

>>2953505

don't be an asshole anon, please

>>2953505
You do realize he will be a famous gun smith right?

>>2953444
>”You mentioned that you could still acquire European weapons. How so?”
>”What sort of designs have you made personally?”

>>2953535
>Enzo Fierro Beretta
...that's not a real person, so as far as we knw he doesn't. Right now Giuseppe Beretta is still struggling to get his people to make entire guns instead of just parts- they'll maybe get 400 (total) made this year- so if this guy is an actual Beretta he wouldn't be on the wrong side of the world unless he was an oddball.

>>2953444
>>”You mentioned that you could still acquire European weapons. How so?”

>>”What sort of designs have you made personally?


Ask her to recruit him as a personal gunsmith in which we can grab a bunch of smoothbore muskets in bulk and covert them to rifles muskets.

His talent is not for selling arms (it will be repairing and conversions!)

>>2953571
And even then Bretta by the late 1800s are known more for handguns then rifles which we will need

>>2953505
I’m interested more in what he can do for us in the mean time. If we can recruit him for gunsmithing he will be easier then buying modern weaponry (in the meantime)

“What sort of designs have you made personally?” You rest your chin on your fist.

“Almost everything I have worked on was under the supervision of my family.” Enzo grimaces. “But I have drawn up some plans since I arrived here in Japan.”

You lean forward. “Any chance I could take a look at them?”

“They are all back in my hotel room, sir.” Enzo frowns. “But I can describe them in detail. Many are conversions that would allow older rifles to fire metallic cartridges. I also have a design for a revolver that you do not have to manually cock.”

You raise an eyebrow. “Really? How does that work?”

“Well the technology has actually existed for some time, Colonel. I believe it was an American company that first made such revolvers.” He moves his hands very precisely, pantomiming what he is talking about. “A series of small springs and levers allow the pulling of the trigger to lift and drop the hammer, all of its own accord.”

Harp nods, chiming in. “I saw a couple models of revolvers like that in the War, mostly near the end. Starr Revolvers, they were called.” He shakes his head. “Never heard too many good things about them, though.”

Enzo quickly speaks again. “Mine uses a completely different mechanism to the Starr, much more durable.”

You put a hand up to stop the nervous Italian. While fancy new guns are nice, you aren’t sure the Aizu Domain even has the resources or facilities to build such a precise weapon. “Let’s change the subject. You mentioned that you could get weapons from Europe, how?”

Enzo nods slowly. “My family also made components for the military weapons of certain countries. I can get in-touch with gunsmiths and armories in Italy, Spain, Austria, and perhaps Russia. I could at least put you in regular correspondence with them, Colonel.”

>”If it’s not too intrusive, I’d like to go to your hotel room and look at your design plans.”
>”If I were to hire you, what sort of facilities would you need to produce basic rifle-muskets?”
>"You mentioned being part of a gunsmithing family. Why are you in Japan?"
>”If you’ll excuse me, I’d like to discuss some things with my subordinates in private.”
>Write-in.

>>2953595
>"You mentioned being part of a gunsmithing family. Why are you in Japan?"

>>2953595
>"You mentioned being part of a gunsmithing family. Why are you in Japan?"

>>2953600
>>"You mentioned being part of a gunsmithing family. Why are you in Japan?"

>>2953595
>>”If I were to hire you, what sort of facilities would you for converting smoothbore muskets to rifled muskets? Or make a eventual domestic copy?

Better not trust itialian designs, better do conversions and eventual copies.

Also I rather not piss off any patent laws.

>>2953615
>patent laws
>After the civil war and in japan
????

>>2953619
If it’s places like colt which was a big factory or the Springfield company. Rather not chance it.

Even then Italy was known for making gun parts not domestic designs (besides Italian muskets which I have to look up later) at this time.

I think recruiting him and buying smoothmores tonconvert will be cheaper.

>>2953619
Not to mention it will give the Japanese experience to tinker will gun manufacture

>>2953600
+1

>>2953627
>If it’s places like colt which was a big factory or the Springfield company. Rather not chance it.

in JAPAN?

>>2953627
I'm not understanding your train in thought Anon. Are we thinking of the same thing?

>>2953595
>"You mentioned being part of a gunsmithing family. Why are you in Japan?"

>>2953637
International patents are a thing though the again no one complained about Spain doing that shit?

>>2953690
What

>>2953703
Patents can be issued internationally, so if someone copied the design someone can sue you.

However Spain did that shit all the time so I guess it’s okay.

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>>2953690
>>2953710

That's true, Spain did get away with that stuff to a surprising degree. In fact they made a shitload of copies of S&W revolvers, enough that they sold large shipments to the French military at one point. I even own one.

Anyway, just got back from getting some dinner, writing now.

“You mentioned being part of a gunsmithing family.” You frown. “So why come to Japan instead of staying in the family business?”

Enzo sighs. “Well as much as I love my family and the business… Things are not going well for us at home. My father has been having troubles with keeping production up, as well as keeping employees hired and retained…” He looks away, leaning back. “I felt that I could do better on my own, maybe make a name for myself.”

You raise an eyebrow. “So you left home to start making guns on your own. When was that?”

“Almost two years ago, sir.”

“And how long have you been in Japan?”

The young Italian rubs his chin thoughtfully. “A couple of months, sir. I worked in Istanbul for a local gunmaker after I left Italy, then I sold guns to English explorers in Egypt until I could afford passage here.”

Harp is the next to speak. “And why Japan, of all places?”

Enzo shrugs. “I had heard this was a good place for selling weapons, since the country was modernizing its military. I thought I might be able to set myself up as a gunsmith and sell custom weapons to the nobility and visiting Europeans…” He sighs. “But the cost of a business permit in the trade district is too high for me to afford, and they will not let foreigners start businesses elsewhere in this city.”

>”If I were to hire you, what would you need to start producing weapons, and how soon would you be able to start production?”
>”I’d like to see those design plans you’ve drawn up. Would you take me to them?”
>”Please excuse me and my subordinates for a moment. We need to discuss some things.”
>”Thank you for your time, Mr. Beretta. We’ll be in-touch.” (leave)
>Write-in.

>>2953742
>>”If I were to hire you as a gunsmith, what would you need to start maintaining and converting smoothbore to rifle muskets. I assume you will need to train men in how guns work so this will be a start for domestic gun and ammunition.

>>2953742
>”I’d like to see those design plans you’ve drawn up. Would you take me to them?”

We really don't know his real capabilities as of now. Let's see his designs first.

>>2953742
>”I’d like to see those design plans you’ve drawn up. Would you take me to them?”

>>2953759
We can see his designs once we establish a proper production facility and trained employees.

In the meantime he can help start up conversion and maybe copying a foreign design

>>2953742
>>”I’d like to see those design plans you’ve drawn up. Would you take me to them?”

>>2953742
>>2953752
Supporting this

“I’m curious about those design plans you’ve drawn up. Would you be willing to show them to me?”

Enzo nods reluctantly. “Of course, sir. Please follow me.”

A few minutes later, you are all standing in the second-floor hotel room belonging to Enzo Beretta. As soon as he lets you in, he locks the door behind you and goes over to the closet. He pulls a locked case out from inside, unlocking it with a key from his jacket pocket.

“Here are the plans I think would be most practical to build.” He hands you a small stack of parchment with technical diagrams on them. You look them over, intrigued. You see the revolver he was talking about, but have no idea what anything means since it’s all written in Italian. The design work is incredibly precise and intricate. The gun itself looks a bit like a regular Colt revolver, with an added loading gate for metal cartridges, as well as an exaggerated hump where the grip meets the back of the cylinder, which Enzo explains is the main housing for the double-action components. You look through the rest of his designs, admittedly intrigued. There are breech-loading conversions of older rifles, what looks similar to a Needle-Gun with a multi-round magazine for holding metallic cartridges, some sort of stubby rifle with a colossal barrel, various other repeating rifles (many of them breech-loaders), several revolvers, and even some heavier weaponry.

You nod, handing the papers back to him. “These are very well-made, Mr. Beretta.”

He smiles as he takes the papers. “Thank you, Colonel. I am always coming up with different ideas, so I like to sketch them down and refine the sketches into diagrams such as these.” He raises an eyebrow sheepishly. “If you were to consider hiring me, I am sure I could make whatever weapons you need. Many of these would not be difficult to manufacture.”

>”How easy would it be for you to convert smoothbore and matchlock firearms to rifled weapons, and perhaps to breech-loaders?”
>”Me and my subordinates need to discuss some things privately. We’ll be out in the hall.”
>”I’m not sure how much it costs to rent this room, but I could put you up at my camp for free while I discuss your potential employment with my superiors.”
>”Thank you for your time, Mr. Beretta. We’ll be in-touch.” (leave)
>Write-in.

>>2953814
>”How easy would it be for you to convert smoothbore and matchlock firearms to rifled weapons, and perhaps to breech-loaders?”
>”Me and my subordinates need to discuss some things privately. We’ll be out in the hall.”
>”I’m not sure how much it costs to rent this room, but I could put you up at my camp for free while I discuss your potential employment with my superiors.”

>>2953814

>”How easy would it be for you to convert smoothbore firearms to rifled weapons, and perhaps to breech-loaders?”

>>”I’m not sure how much it costs to rent this room, but I could put you up at my camp for free while I discuss your potential employment with my superiors.”

Matchlocks are no good for conversions then anything other then percussion lock.

Matchlocks barrels are too thin for rifling.

However there is a possibility for regular smoothbore rifles to be rifles and some later era barrels can be converted to breechlock

>>2953814
>”How easy would it be for you to convert smoothbore firearms to rifled weapons, and perhaps to breech-loaders?”

>>”I’m not sure how much it costs to rent this room, but I could put you up at my camp for free while I discuss your potential employment with my superiors.”

Oh damn, consider him as a long term investment when the shogunate forces can make their own guns and artillery.

Still converting matchlock to percussion lock might make a decent training arm.

>>2953814
>>”How easy would it be for you to convert smoothbore firearms to rifled weapons, and perhaps to breech-loaders?”
>>>”I’m not sure how much it costs to rent this room, but I could put you up at my camp for free while I discuss your potential employment with my superiors.”

>>2953814
>”Me and my subordinates need to discuss some things privately. We’ll be out in the hall.”
>”How easy would it be for you to convert smoothbore and matchlock firearms to rifled weapons, and perhaps to breech-loaders?”

Okay, I got some info on Austrian Hungarian Empire, Old surplus designs, but there is not much info on them.

Augustin Infantry Musket Model 1842: Tubelock Musket which while smoothbore has some been converted into rifle muskets.

Lorenz Infantry Rifle M1842 Mark I: Austrian Hungarian domestic Musket Rifle, The mark I has a fixed sight instead of the Mark II which has a adjustable rear sight.


I did Austrian Hungarian and info was tough to find so this is a cursory look.

Moving on to Italy?

Italy....Just became a kingdom around 1860 which mean their arms history was mainly various smaller kingdoms or city states buying from other larger kingdom.

However, by this time they did have one domestic design.

The Italian Infantry M1860: Which is a rifled musket.

Not much more data I can find there however, all I know if that a number of these will be converted with the Carcano system which might be interesting but those won't be implemented or adopted until 1866-1867 so outside the scope of the quest right now.

Any other countries anyone wants me to look up?

Spain? Russia? America? Britain? Belguim?

Anyone can reccomend me something I can start doing some research? Also QM is this helping at all?

>>2953968
I'll say Belgium and Britain, since they seem to be the major gun people apart of America during this time period. Maybe the French and Prussians as well, Russia could have come up with something. There also the Sweds

But anyway there was guns like the Beaumont–Adams, from Britain, that was double action and came out in 1862 vastly popular.

>>2953976
I'm doing rifles and muskets due to the surplus and side arms were mainly used for cavalry or officers.

Side Arms for infanty was rare at this time so my focus won't be there for now since we are concerned with making infantry.

Converting muskets is probably going to be our best chance of long term armament considering after this excursion we'll likely have to arm more regiments and most likely line infantry sol having someone in house who can convert old stock flintlock muskets to rifled ones is a nice catch

maybe we can get him on the shoguns payroll and jumpstart a modern military industrial complex?

>>2953990
Thats what my suggestion is though we have to be careful what system we will use once we adopt a metallic cartilage.

Also looking up Belguim arms right now, again not much to find but I will find something.

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>>2953968
>Also QM is this helping at all?
Yeah, this is some really useful information. Thanks for taking the time to look it up.

Also, I’m calling the session for tonight. Got caught up doing some chores and lost track of time. Next session will be tomorrow at around 4-4:30PM Eastern.

>>2954009
Just so you know QM, a lot of metallic cartages conversions to mainline infantry muskets don't show up until 1866-1867, so we are aways away from getting any since many militaries are keeping that tech to themselves.

And we have no domestic design for that.

>>2954021
this is an Alt history quest anon Im sure we can be a little leniant on actual history.

>>2954028
Well we are in 1865 post civil war, probably in the summer/fall.

I doubt we will start off with Breechloaders any way, and its not a matter of alt history but more like timing.

1866 is soon coming and stuff like the American Trapdoor and the Carcano system (among other conversion patterns will show up)

I'm just saying not anytime soon considering we need to start up domestic designs but hopefully by then we can slowly use original stock to retool for said conversions,

That is sort of my point, I guess.

>>2954037
Well yeah obviously and when we do we should give them to our elite regiments.

so yeah essentialy we are in agreement.

>>2954144
Well I was hoping to give it to everyone but I guess that makes sense since production will slow and best units gets best arms, and hand me downs will go to the second best, and etc, etc.

>>2953941
To add on to this, here's a good site for Austro-Hungarian weapons:
http://www.hungariae.com/index.htm

“How easy would it be to convert smoothbore muskets to rifled ones?” You lean against the wall.

Enzo raises an eyebrow. “Not difficult at all, sir. It would just be a matter of cutting the rifling into the barrel. The tools required for it are not expensive.”

You nod. “I see. And what about taking rifle-muskets and converting them to breech-loaders, like in your diagrams.”

The young Italian grins slightly. “With the right equipment and a dedicated workshop, I could personally convert a dozen rifles a day. Perhaps more.”

A dozen a day? You have to admit, that’s impressive. “And what can be done with, say, matchlock firearms?”

Enzo frowns, rubbing his chin thoughtfully. “Well, their barrels would likely be too thin to impart rifling, though… No, that would be infeasible… I could at least convert them to use a cap-lock system. They would at least be useable as training weapons, I am sure.”

You step forward. “Very good. I’m not sure how much it costs to rent this room, but I have an offer for you. Come live at my base while I discuss your employment with my superiors, free of charge, of course.”

Enzo stutters for a moment, then shakes your hand vigorously. “T-thank you, Colonel! I promise you will not be disappointed by my work!”

You nod. “I hope so, Mr. Beretta, for my troops’ sake as much as anything. Pack your things, Major Harp here will take you to the base once you’re ready.” You look at Harp, who nods.

“I’ll go hail a carriage.” He exits the room unceremoniously.

“Mr. Beretta,” you tip your hat to him. “I look forward to seeing your work in action.” With that, you and Nakajima exit the hotel room.

“Where shall we go next, sir?” Nakajima walks beside you, admittedly struggling to match your stride. You slow down a bit for him.

>”Let’s go home with Harp and Enzo.”
>”I want to speak to the arms merchant in Yokohama, John Herringold.”
>”We should see about raising funds to build a workshop for Mr. Beretta. Do you have any ideas?”
>Write-in.

>>2954961
>>”We should see about raising funds to build a workshop for Mr. Beretta. Do you have any ideas?”

>>2954961
>>”I want to speak to the arms merchant in Yokohama, John Herringold.”
>>”We should see about raising funds to build a workshop for Mr. Beretta. Do you have any ideas?”

We need weapons for him to work with if he’s going to live with us.


And ah fuck I’m too late I have Belgium, Swedish,America, Germany, and Russian systems to go through! And we are hitting the surplus guy!

>>2954961
>>”We should see about raising funds to build a workshop for Mr. Beretta. Do you have any ideas?”

And interesting breechloafing?

The only conversion I know as of right now is the 1865 trapdoor Springfield right now.

Qm what month is it now?

>>2954972
>2954982
>>2954985
>>2954988
Shouldn’t we meet th surplus guy to see what’s in the market?

>>2954961
>”We should see about raising funds to build a workshop for Mr. Beretta. Do you have any ideas?”
>”I want to speak to the arms merchant in Yokohama, John Herringold.”

>>2954961
>>”We should see about raising funds to build a workshop for Mr. Beretta. Do you have any ideas?”

>>2954989
>Qm what month is it now?
November, currently.

>>2955007
Well I can at least see what’s on th commercial market

>>2955012
Okay after some quick cursory searching over the phone I found two conversions types we can do.

The 1865 trapdoor conversion which was liscensed in September 1865. While American the first models did have some issues.

The French Tabitere conversion works kind of similar to bolt action and was introduced in 1864 and I don’t have much info on it other then the fact it was inferior to the chasspot right now.


However those are the two main conversion on hand so feel free to do some google searching if nesscary.

“We should see about raising funds to build a workshop for Enzo. Do you have any ideas?”

Nakajima grimaces. “Sir, may I speak freely?”

You nod. “Of course, Lieutenant.”

The Lieutenant struggles a bit with his words. “Sir, I think we should refrain from making any monetary decisions right now.” He pauses, adjusting his cap as the two of you exit the hotel. “We are not even certain that Lord Matsudaira will authorize the hiring of Mr. Beretta. It would be insubordinate of us to independently build him a workshop, I think. At the very least, I would recommend waiting for official approval from Lord Matsudaira. In my professional opinion.” He falls silent, seemingly embarrassed about disagreeing with you.

You frown. The man has a point, perhaps you should avoid doing anything that might anger Matsudaira. You both step out into the street. It’s mid-afternoon now, and judging by where the sun is, you’ve got maybe three more hours of sunlight. “How long would you estimate a carriage ride to Yokohama would take?”

Nakajima rubs his chin thoughtfully. “Perhaps an hour, maybe a little bit more.”

“I see. Let’s get a carriage then. We should go see this John Herringold.” You step into the street, looking around for a carriage. “Mr. Beretta’s skills will be of little use without surplus rifles to convert.”

It isn’t long before you flag down a carriage. As it would turn out, the Edo-Yokohama route is rather popular, so this carriage driver was already looking for Westerners to take there. You both hop in, and the carriage rumbles off down the streets. Within maybe five minutes, you are out of Edo entirely. The countryside rolls past you, with the sea on one side and fields on the other. You pass horse-drawn carts, peasants on foot, and the occasional stagecoach like the one you are riding in. Well, you’ve got nothing much to do for the next hour besides sitting here.

>Talk with Nakajima during the ride.
>Pull your cap down over your eyes and try to take a nap.
>Just look quietly at the passing scenery.
>Write-in.

>>2955068
>>Talk with Nakajima during the ride.
get to know LT better

>>2955068
>Talk with Nakajima during the ride.

Ask how this ‘adventure’ of business dealing and arms procurement is working for him. Considering he is now a officer as well and will have to do similar things as well.

Also make note he might need a decent pistol.

>>2955068
>Talk with Nakajima during the ride.

>>2955068
>>Talk with Nakajima during the ride.

>>2955068
>>Talk with Nakajima during the ride.

>>2955068

>Talk with Nakajima during the ride.

Is this our Trap Soldier?

>>2955125
hey! He's our right hand man LT, with extremely soft hand, he personally checked and found no reverse-trap soldier on our unit kek

>>2955125
We have no trap soldiers.

Reverse traps on the otherhand....

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>>2955125
I wanted to have Stockton line up all the men, and personal grab them by the balls. Thinking Nakajima was the biggest balls of the troops to find a moist hole instead. But I never suggested it as, it'll be something no one will do. But at least you could a good laugh at the idea

“So, Nakajima.” You speak up, smirking as you talk. “What do you think of the ‘modern officer’ experience?”

He leans forward, resting his elbows on his knees. “I did not think there was so much negotiating involved.”

You chuckle. “Me either.” You lean back and cross your arms, looking out at the sea. “I was a sergeant in the Civil War back in my country, so I never got to see this side of things.”

“I see,” Nakajima nods. “My family works closely with the government.” He sighs, looking down. “They never involved me in such things, though.”

“That was probably a good thing.” You shrug. “Politics aren’t the most forgiving of things.” You remove your cap, setting it on the seat beside you. “Still have that Smith & Wesson?”

Nakajima smiles slightly. “Yes, sir.” He removes it from a holster underneath his jacket, handing it to you when you hold your hand out.

You inspect it, noting the break-action. “This fires .32, right?”

“It does.”

You frown, handing it back to him. “While it’s a good gun, I would recommend getting a more substantial pistol as your main duty weapon.” You point to your rather obvious Dragoon holster, worn outside your jacket. “An officer should always have a pistol in plain view.”

“I see,” he nods. “I will shop around for one, sir.”

After that, your conversation sort of dies out. It is maybe ten minutes before Nakajima speaks again.

“Sir,” he speaks reluctantly. “If it is not too private, I have a question.” He fidgets a bit, seemingly embarrassed. “Do you have a wife?”

You raise an eyebrow at the young man. “Nope. Had a fiancé.” You shrug. “Why, are you having girl troubles?”

Nakajima grimaces. “Something like that, sir.”

“Well keep her close, kid.” You keep looking out at the scenery. “And understand that you might have to choose between her and your job someday. If that happens, make absolutely sure you’re making a decision you’ll be satisfied with.” You sigh, resting your elbow on the sill of the carriage window.

“I… I see.” He frowns, looking out the window as well. “Thank you for the advice, sir.”

You both talk on and off through the rest of the ride, mostly covering small subjects. It isn’t long before you see Yokohama in the distance. As you get closer, you see just how Western it is. The buildings are all very European in their architectural style, and Westerners are more common on the streets than Japanese. Before long, the carriage arrives in front of the address given to you by Edgar North.

>>2955150
>implying Nakajima wouldn't have some ball replacements in place just for the occasion

You both exit the carriage, walking up to the front door of the building. You knock on the door, and a young woman in a maid uniform answers. “Good day, sirs.” She speaks in an obviously-foreign accent that you can’t quite place. “How may I help you?”

“I was told that I could find John Herringold at this address. Is that correct?”

The maid leans forward, maintaining a disarmingly-polite demeanor. “May I ask who is inquiring?”

>”Edgar North sent me.”
>”I’m a military advisor for the Shogun, looking to purchase weapons.”
>”I came here to speak to Herringold, not his maid. Now where is he?”
>”I don’t recognize your accent, miss. Where are you from?”
>Write-in.

>>2955158
>”Edgar North sent me.”

>>2955153
>“Sir,” he speaks reluctantly. “If it is not too private, I have a question.” He fidgets a bit, seemingly embarrassed. “Do you have a wife?”
>“I… I see.” He frowns, looking out the window as well. “Thank you for the advice, sir.”

MY SON NO

>>2955158
>”Edgar North sent me.”

>Nakajima having girls problems.
This is priceless

>>2955158
>>”Edgar North sent me.”

>>2955158
>>”Edgar North sent me.”
>>”I don’t recognize your accent, miss. Where are you from?”

>>2955158
>”Edgar North sent me.”

Who is your favorite reverse trap that might compare to nakajina

>>2955158
>>2955220
Also add this

>”I don’t recognize your accent, miss. Where are you from?”

So once we establish a basic officer and infantry school, should we introduce handgun classes and standardization

Or do we leave that as more of a private r purchase affair?

>>2955272
I would prefer not to micromanage every small aspect, a man should choose his own revolver.

>>2955287
Okay private purchase it is then.

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“Edgar North sent me.” You cross your arms.

The maid’s eyes light up as she nods quickly. “Very well, sir. Please wait just a moment.” She closes the door, then after maybe a minute or so, she returns and lets the two of you in. The inside of the building is rather sparsely-furnished, with a couple of couches and a coffee table in the front room. The maid directs you to a set of sliding wood doors, which she opens.

You and Nakajima enter the room beyond said doors, and they close quietly behind you. The room you find yourselves in is a rather well-appointed study, with old bookshelves lining the walls and curtains drawn over the windows. There is a large desk with a globe on it near the back of the room, piled high with different ledgers. You also note the various firearms hanging on the walls, with some appearing to be antiques.

“Good afternoon.” An older gentleman enters the room through another doorway. He wears a simple red vest over a white shirt, with black pants and high cavalry boots. He has graying hair, with an impressive set of mutton chops and a mustache. His expression is severe, and combined with his impressive stature, you find yourself taking a step back as he approaches you. As he moves closer, your eyes go to a nickel-plated Remington army revolver on his hip.

“John Herringold, I presume?” You extend a hand, which he shakes without hesitation.

“Indeed. My apologies for not already being in my study when you arrived. I had something to take care of.” He speaks with a gruff Midwestern accent, and his mannerisms remind you a bit of how Harp acted during the War.

“That’s perfectly alright, sir.” You nod at him. “We did arrive on somewhat short notice.”

“Indeed.” Herringold nods, looking at Nakajima, then back to you. “I understand that Edgar North sent you?”

You nod. “That’s right.”

The next thing you know, you’re looking down the barrel of a nickel-plated Remington. “Well that’s a lie. Ed’s men don’t wear Aizu military uniforms. Now tell me who you are and why you’re here.” He cocks the hammer.

>Write-in.

>>2955324
>I’m not lying Ed Norton referred to you as someone with connections to military surplus in which I’m interested in procuring.

>>2955324
>As I've said, Edgar North sent me here. I never said I was his underling. I'm John Stockton; yes I'm employed by the Aizu and I want to discuss the possibility of purchasing arms from the States . Edgar recommended you as his first choice; was he wrong to do so?

>>2955324
>>2955342
Also supporting this but don’t say just the states I want to know if he has fingers in the European market

>>2955342
supporting

>>2955324
>>2955342
Support

>>2955324
backing this >>2955342

You grimace. “I never said I was one of North’s men. My name is Colonel Daniel Stockton, with the Aizu Domain’s military. Earlier I met with Mr. North and he recommended I meet with you regarding the acquisition of weapons.” Your eyes narrow as you look down the front sight of the Remington. “You were the first person he recommended, as a matter of fact, was he wrong to do so?”

Herringold lowers the revolver slowly, easing the hammer down and returning it to his holster. “A bit of advice, Colonel. You should’ve led in with that. One can never be too careful these days, especially with the Shenandoah still on the loose, and now I’m getting rumors of confederates operating here in Japan. It’s enough to induce some healthy paranoia.” He steps back, gesturing to a couple of chairs opposite his desk. “But please, have a seat.

You and Nakajima move over to the chairs, sitting down as Herringold leans against his desk. “My apologies, I should’ve accounted for how dangerous being an arms dealer is.”

Herringold chuckles. “Oh, selling arms doesn’t necessarily lend itself to danger,” he glances at you. “No, I’ve done plenty of other things to paint a target on my back. That’s all behind me now, though.” He sits down at his desk, making a steeple with his fingers. “Now I understand you want to talk business…”

“Yes, I’m looking into acquiring arms for the Aizu Domain. They’re raising a modern force.”

The man grins. “I see. Then you’d be needing a serious amount of weapons, yes?”

You nod. “Most likely, yes.”

Herringold pulls out a small stack of ledgers. “Well you’re in luck, Colonel Stockton. In case you’ve been living under a rock, America just had a civil war. There are plenty of weapons sitting in armories now, like-new and often completely unissued.” He leans forward. “And of course, there are companies looking to sell new stock in bulk, since the government isn’t making any large purchases at the moment.”

>”At the moment I don’t have the authority to make a purchase. Would it be possible to arrange a meeting between you and the daimyo of the Aizu clan?”
>”What sort of numbers are we talking in regards of surplus arms? Enough to equip an army?”
>”What sort of new weapons could you get a hold of in large quantities?”
>”Mr. North had mentioned that you brokered deals for importing French weapons to America. Do you still have any European contacts?”
>”What’s the Shenandoah and why does it have you spooked?”
>Write-in.

>>2955380
>”What sort of numbers are we talking in regards of surplus arms? Enough to equip an army?”
>”What sort of new weapons could you get a hold of in large quantities?

>”What’s the Shenandoah and why does it have you spooked?”

>>2955380
Adding to this >>2955390 Tell him about the two Confederates we met in Edo and how we ourselves may be a target.

>>2955380
>>”What sort of numbers are we talking in regards of surplus arms? Enough to equip an army?”
>>”What sort of new weapons could you get a hold of in large quantities?”
>>”Mr. North had mentioned that you brokered deals for importing French weapons to America. Do you still have any European contacts?”


>I’m currently here to get numbers and prices ranges for now.

>>2955397
I think he knows

>>2955413
He says it's rumours so far;time to confirm it for him

>>2955380
>>2955422
Well supporting it then, still want to know about the french contracts.

Maybe get an eye on what’s available

In hindsight I should have done American surplus

>>2955380
>”What sort of numbers are we talking in regards of surplus arms? Enough to equip an army?”
>”What sort of new weapons could you get a hold of in large quantities?”
>”Mr. North had mentioned that you brokered deals for importing French weapons to America. Do you still have any European contacts?”
>”What’s the Shenandoah and why does it have you spooked?”

>>2955380
>>”What sort of numbers are we talking in regards of surplus arms? Enough to equip an army?”
>”What sort of new weapons could you get a hold of in large quantities?
>”Mr. North had mentioned that you brokered deals for importing French weapons to America. Do you still have any European contacts?”

“What sort of numbers can you manage as far as surplus arms? Enough to equip an army?”

Herringold nods. “Most certainly. The War is over, Colonel. Tens of thousands of rifles are sitting in armories because of it.” He leans back. “I could arm the Aizu Domain’s entire military and still have a good-sized surplus, if they could afford it.”

You raise an eyebrow. “What sort of weapons are we talking about?”

“Everything from 1863 Springfield rifle-muskets to flintlocks and Kentucky Long-Rifles.” He grins. “And of course there’s the captured Confederate stock as well, things like Enfield Musketoons and the Graybacks’ domestic copies of Northern weapons are pretty easy to come by.”

“I see. And you’d mentioned having the ability to get newly-manufactured weapons. Could you elaborate on that?”

Herringold leans back in his chair, stretching. “Well, I have some contacts in the Remington Company, as well as a man at Colt’s factory.” He rubs his chin thoughtfully. “But if you were wanting something more cutting-edge, I could get large quantities of Sharps and Henry rifles as well.”

You nod. “And I heard from Mr. North that you helped facilitate some deals to import French weapons during the War. Do you still have any access to foreign weaponry?”

Herringold frowns. “Well, Colonel, as unfortunate as it is, most European nations are busy converting their old rifle-muskets to different types of repeaters. I’d imagine the French are no exception.” He shrugs. “I could ask around, but your best bet would be to buy American.”

“Duly noted. I appreciate your honesty on the subject.”

The man leans forward. “So, shall we move on to negotiating an import deal?”

>”Would it be possible to buy the guns on-loan and pay back the value in installments?”
>”At the moment I’m not authorized to make a purchase. I can set up a meeting with the daimyo of the Aizu Domain though.”
>”Earlier you’d mentioned something called the Shenandoah, what is that?”
>”The rumors about confederates in Japan are true. Two Confederate officers are active in Edo, and I think they tried to kill me recently.”
>Write-in.

>>2955526
>”At the moment I’m not authorized to make a purchase. I can set up a meeting with the daimyo of the Aizu Domain though.”
>Also the rumors about confederates in japan are true, I've had run in with thems.

>>2955526
>”At the moment I’m not authorized to make a purchase. I can set up a meeting with the daimyo of the Aizu Domain though.”
>”Earlier you’d mentioned something called the Shenandoah, what is that?”
>”The rumors about confederates in Japan are true. Two Confederate officers are active in Edo, and I think they tried to kill me recently.”

>>2955526
>>”At the moment I’m not authorized to make a purchase. I can set up a meeting with the daimyo of the Aizu Domain though.”
>”The rumors about confederates in Japan are true. Two Confederate officers are active in Edo, and I think they tried to kill me recently.”

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Gonna call the session for tonight. We'll run tomorrow at around 5PM Eastern since I don't have work. Until then, feel free to ask questions and other stuff like always.

>>2955547
Whelp ill do Belgium and go to American arms. Though damn yo the Kentucky long rifle.

I have my work cut out for me

>”At the moment I’m not authorized to make a purchase. I can set up a meeting with the daimyo of the Aizu Domain though.”
>”Earlier you’d mentioned something called the Shenandoah, what is that?”
>”The rumors about confederates in Japan are true. Two Confederate officers are active in Edo, and I think they tried to kill me recently.”

>>2955526
>”At the moment I’m not authorized to make a purchase. I can set up a meeting with the daimyo of the Aizu Domain though.”
>”Earlier you’d mentioned something called the Shenandoah, what is that?”

“At the moment, I’m not authorized to make a purchase.” You lean back in your chair. “I can set up a meeting with the daimyo of the Aizu Domain though.”

Herringold nods. “Very well, Colonel. I await the meeting with great anticipation.” He shakes your hand.

“Also you mentioned something called the Shenandoah earlier.” You raise an eyebrow. “What is that?”

The man frowns. “I’m quite surprised you haven’t heard.” He sighs, leaning back in his chair. “The Shenandoah is a commerce raider, and currently the last ship of the Confederate Navy.”

“You mean they’re still active?”

He nods. “Last I heard, they had sank a whaling ship not far from the Aleutian Islands about two weeks ago.” He grimaces. “With those rumors of confederates here in Japan, they might try to make port here at some point, try to link up with allies.”

You nod. “Those aren’t rumors, Mr. Herringold. I personally encountered two Confederate officers when I arrived here in Japan. Since then I have reason to believe they tried to kill me.”

The arms dealer raises an eyebrow. “I see. Then there’s always the possibility of more confederates flocking here, operating in the shadows…” He sighs. “Thank you for the information, Colonel. Now if you’ll excuse me, I must attend to other business.”

With that, you bid him adieu and are escorted to the front door by the maid. Upon exiting the building, you see that the sun is lower in the sky now. You figure if you take a carriage back to your base now, you might arrive just before sunset. As you step out onto the street, you look around. A couple blocks to your right, you see some British soldiers marching about in formation, their barracks is likely close. There are various shops lining the streets, though you imagine many of them would be closed this late in the day. A cold breeze chills you.

“Sir,” Nakajima says. “What shall we do next?”

>”Let’s hitch a ride home. I’d like to be at the base before nightfall.”
>”I want to find a gun shop, see about getting you a service pistol.”
>”The British garrison is likely nearby. Let’s look for the third arms dealer.”
>Write-in.

>>2956894
>>”The British garrison is likely nearby. Let’s look for the third arms dealer.”
Must as well before we leave.

>>2956894
>”I want to find a gun shop, see about getting you a service pistol.”

>>2956894
>”I want to find a gun shop, see about getting you a service pistol.”

Let's help Naka choose something

>>2956894
>”I want to find a gun shop, see about getting you a service pistol.”

>>2956894
>”I want to find a gun shop, see about getting you a service pistol.”

>>2956894
>>”I want to find a gun shop, see about getting you a service pistol.”
>>”The British garrison is likely nearby. Let’s look for the third arms dealer.”

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“I want to find a gun shop, see about getting you a proper service pistol.”

Nakajima bows lightly. “I see. Thank you, sir.”

The two of you set off down the row of shops, looking for one dedicated to the sale of small arms. It takes maybe ten minutes to find one, which has a myriad of guns displayed in the front windows on wooden racks. You enter, and discover the store to be just as densely-stocked as the front window would indicate. You notice many different rifles and carbines on the racks lining the walls, including several Henrys, a couple Colt Revolver Rifle and Carbine models, a Sharps repeater with what looks like a telescope mounted to the barrel, and some rifles you’ve never seen before, including a couple of multi-barreled muskets. Several of the weapons you see have fancy, gold engravings adorning them.

“Ah, good afternoon, sirs.” A portly gentleman with a mustache calls from behind the shop counter. “Is there anything I can help you with?”

“We’re looking for a revolver for my Lieutenant here.” You gesture to Nakajima. “Ideally something visually substantial.”

“I see.” The man nods. “Say, are you from New York?”

“I am,” you nod. “Rochester. Why?”

The man grins widely. “I knew I recognized your accent. I’m a Pennsylvania boy myself, though I’ve not been home in a good ten or so years.” He motions for the two of you to approach the counter, which you do. “Here is a selection of handguns I have in stock.” He gestures to a dozen or so revolvers laying beneath the glass counter. He opens the counter, motioning to the guns with an open hand. You see a couple familiar army-pattern revolvers, what looks like a Griswold, a large revolver you’ve never seen before, a couple of open-top Colts that have been converted to fire metal cartridges, and an odd-looking revolver with a rounded handle. “Well, Mr. Lieutenant, feel free to pick up and examine anything that catches your fancy.”

Nakajima’s hand immediately goes to a massive revolver, even larger than your Dragoon. He actually has trouble lifting it initially, but seems to get a feel for the monstrous gun after a few seconds. For such a small man, Nakajima manages to hold the revolver somewhat comfortably. “This is quite substantial,” he remarks with wide eyes.

“Indeed, that’s a LeMat.” The salesman chuckles. “They’re nine-shooters, plus they have an underslung shotgun barrel.” Nakajima nods slowly, examining the pistol closely. The salesman continues. “Those were real popular with ol’ Johnny Reb’s cavalry.”

You lean in, examining the revolver as well. “What caliber does it shoot?”

“.36 caliber.” The salesman replies rather quickly. “That makes it surprisingly manageable for such a large gun.”

Nakajima nods slowly, obviously impressed. “I like it.”

>”Then we’ll take it.” (buy the LeMat)
>”Maybe take a look at the other revolvers before getting this one…”
>”Well while you decide whether to get this or not, I’ll be looking at rifles.” (examine the other guns)
>”You mentioned that the Confederates liked these. What’s the history of this particular piece?” (inquire about the LeMat)
>Write-in.

Okay, I forgot to post this last night since i browsed online and past out.

Infantry Rifle N 1: A Flintlock rifle which was inspired by the 1816 and 1822 French Flintlock musket model.

Infantry Rifle N 5: A flintlock rifle model.

Heurteloup Rifle: A self priming percussion system.

Rifle Model 1848: A Rifled Musket.

>>2957043
>>”Maybe take a look at the other revolvers before getting this one…”

If he doesn't feel attach to any others then

>”Then we’ll take it.” (buy the LeMat)

Ultimately its his decision.

>>2957043
OOC:
LeMat the same gun our boy in NEET quest used for his first purchase before it was taken by the police as evidence.

>Examine the other guns. Let's see if we can't find some Spencers for our officers

>>2957054
Aren't they equipped with Needle Guns?

>>2957043
>”You mentioned that the Confederates liked these. What’s the history of this particular piece?” (inquire about the LeMat)

>”Maybe take a look at the other revolvers before getting this one…”


Our best ''boy' is having a field day.

>>2957067
Needle guns are bolt action one shots. But the Spencer is like for 7 rounds Henry more durable. So they have more firepower at a lower price than a Henry.

It's a improvement. I want to know the price of it

>>2957043
>”Then we’ll take it.” (buy the LeMat)

>>2957076
With a weaker cartiage, lesser ranger iirc.

and cannot go prone.

How advanced is the Aizu's signal corps?

>>2957049
This

>>2957083
Well if you need to put lot of rounds downrange, and pack a stronger punch than a Henry, the Spencer is the cheaper choice than arming a small group with Henrys. Just a idea.

>>2957049
support

>>2957040
>>2957049
support

Currently doing a list of the American arms in the American Civil but I may not add French Infantry arms since i covered most of them in my French list.

Though some may have shown up in the American Civil War/

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“Maybe you should take a look at the other revolvers before deciding to get that one.”

Nakajima nods. “Of course, sir.” He looks at the shopkeeper as he sits the LeMat down gently. “What about this one?” He gently picks up a very familiar pistol.

“Ah, that there is an 1860 Army.” The shopkeeper smiles. “It’s also chambered in .36, but that particular one has been converted to shoot metal cartridges.” He points to a loading gate that has been added on the back of the cylinder. “You flip that open to load the shells from behind. It shoots a .32 rimfire, like the Smith and Wessons.”

“I see.” Nakajima holds the M1860, weighing it in his hand. It is a much smaller weapon, and he has a better time of getting his hand around the grip. “It is quite light compared to the other one.”

The shopkeeper chuckles. “I would expect so, it’s maybe half the size.”

Nakajima fiddles with the pistol some more before putting it down and picking up the strange one with rounded grips. “What is this?”

“That’s a French military revolver.” He leans forward, pointing to the cylinder. “These ones were actually designed to use metal pinfire cartridges.” He points to the loading gate on the back. “Same loading mechanism as the 1860 conversion. They’re good guns. Popular amongst troops stationed in North Africa from what I understand.”

Nakajima weighs the revolver in his hand, examining it closely. “And does it fire a substantial round?”

The shopkeeper nods. “12 millimeter, which would equate to .47 caliber.” He leans forward, pointing at the revolver. “That’s a real man-stopper, for sure.”

You interject. “How easy is ammunition to get?”

The shopkeeper shrugs. “Well, the French stuff is widely-available, but pinfire cartridges aren’t cheap, I’ll admit.”

Nakajima nods, setting the French revolver down. “Which would you suggest getting, sir?”

>”The LeMat. It uses loose power and balls, so you’ll never have to worry about running out of cartridges. That shotgun barrel is a good backup as well.”
>”The M1860 Conversion. You can’t beat American steel.”
>”I’d get the French pinfire revolver. It was designed from the factory to use cartridges, so it’ll be more reliable than a conversion.”
>”What about the other revolvers in the case? You didn’t even give them a look.”
>Write-in.

>>2957319
>>”The LeMat. It uses loose power and balls, so you’ll never have to worry about running out of cartridges. That shotgun barrel is a good backup as well.”

>>2957319
>>”The LeMat. It uses loose power and balls, so you’ll never have to worry about running out of cartridges. That shotgun barrel is a good backup as well.”


We don't know her financial situation so the Lemat logistically.

but the

>”I’d get the French pinfire revolver. It was designed from the factory to use cartridges, so it’ll be more reliable than a conversion.”

If she has enough funds to reliable get ammo all the time.

Like I said its her choice and her wallet on procuring ammunition.

>>2957319
>”The M1860 Conversion. You can’t beat American steel.”
I bet you would like an american

>>2957319
>>2957338
This

It depends on her wallet in procuring ammunition

>>2957355
Yeah but we are asking her to get a beefier gun and the American conversion uses the same cartage as the smith and wesson

>>2957319
>”What about the other revolvers in the case? You didn’t even give them a look.”

>>2957319
Which one felt right into your hand? You seemed to like the LeMat, but that fancy french piece is a beauty too.

>>2957338
>"her"
>>2957359
>"her"
Nakajima is totally a 'guy' anons.

>>2957319
>”The LeMat. It uses loose power and balls, so you’ll never have to worry about running out of cartridges. That shotgun barrel is a good backup as well.”

>>2957319
>”The LeMat. It uses loose power and balls, so you’ll never have to worry about running out of cartridges. That shotgun barrel is a good backup as well.”

Nakajima overcompensating for not having a dick by buying the biggest gun there is

>>2957376
I wrote her by mistake.

and Jesus Christ, I think I'm taking more then I can chew with this list!

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“Get the LeMat,” you say simply. “It’s the most reliable of the ones you looked at since it uses loose powder and balls.” You raise an eyebrow. “That shotgun barrel is a good backup too.”

“I see,” he nods. “I would like to buy this LeMat, then.”

“Very well sir,” the shopkeeper replies jovially. “Would you like a holster with it?”

“I would.” He nods. “And some powder, caps, and shot, please.”

“Very well, Lieutenant.” Nakajima and the shopkeeper barter for a short while before deciding on a price for everything. With the LeMat purchased, Nakajima puts the holster on, then holsters his new weapon as the two of you leave the gun store.

The sun is low on the horizon now, and the streets of Yokohama are far less crowded than they were earlier. It won’t be long before sundown. You make a mental note of this gun store, as you’re sure it would be a good place to pick up some less ubiquitous weapons for personal use. The two of you walk up the street, looking for a carriage to take you back to the base.

You eventually find a stagecoach for hire, and after paying the driver a little extra, he agrees to take you to your base instead of Edo itself. You and Nakajima hop in, and the carriage takes off without delay. As the two of you ride back, you notice Nakajima inspecting his new revolver closely as he pulls out the powder flask and ammunition. As it would turn out, he’s never loaded a cap-and-ball revolver before, so you run him through the basics. Since it’s so similar to loading a normal musket, he picks up the technique quickly. Within five or so minutes, he has eight chambers loaded, with the ninth being empty so the hammer can rest on it.

The sun sets completely during the carriage ride, and it is dark out by the time you arrive at the base. You exit the carriage and blink a couple of times to make sure you’re seeing things correctly. A few snowflakes tumble through the air all around. “I wasn’t aware it snowed here in Japan.”

Nakajima nods as he too exits the carriage. “Yes sir, though it usually does not come so early in the year.” He frowns. “This means it will get very cold tonight. We shall need to use the wood stoves soon if winter comes early this year.”

You grimace. All this time you’d been looking forward to a winter without snow. “I suppose so. Do we have firewood cut and ready?”

Nakajima nods. “There are stores of firewood behind the mess hall.”

“Very well,” you salute Nakajima. “Good evening, Lieutenant.”

“And a good evening to you as well, sir.” He returns the salute, then walks toward the mess hall, likely to assess the firewood stores.

>See about getting some supper. You’ve not eaten since lunch.
>Head to the main building and see what Harp has done with Mr. Beretta.
>Meet with your other lieutenants to go over Matsudaira’s training strategy.
>Write-in.

>>2957487
>>Head to the main building and see what Harp has done with Mr. Beretta.
>>Meet with your other lieutenants to go over Matsudaira’s training strategy.

Do both of these before getting dinner.

>>2957487
>>>Meet with your other lieutenants to go over Matsudaira’s training strategy.

>>2957487
>>Meet with your other lieutenants to go over Matsudaira’s training strategy.

>>2957492
This

>>2957492
+1

>>2957492
support

Okay, Christ! I'm done With Civil War Infantry Weaponry! Note, that i did no carbine due to we are focusing on infantry weapons.

Took me three pages and it was only to do cursory summaries.

I hope this helps, and if you need more info, either ask or google it yourself.

Also please note there may be some I may have missed or may or may not have served. If there is let me know.

Kentucky Rifle: A Flintlock Long Rifle that while its accuracy is able to hit a target from 100-200 yards, requires long read load time due to needing wax or lots of pressure to put ball down. Later can be converted to percussion system,

Contract 1792 Rifle: Kentucky Long Rifle being adopted for U.S. Military Use and some were converted to Percussion Caps and saw use in the American Civil War.

Brown Bess Long Land Pattern: Original Brown Bess which is a Flintlock Pistol, Used during the American Civil War and was sold or used in limited use in American Civil War.
Brown Bess Short Land Pattern: Slightly shorter Land Pattern.

Charleville Model M1763 musket: Flintlock System, Shortened model of the M1728. Used during the American Revolution

Charleville Model M1766 Musket: Lightened Model of the M1763.

Springfield M1795 Musket: Based on the Charleville M1763 and M1766, A Flintlock system with minor modification that proved to be more accurate and longer ranger then that of the brown bess. Had some converted to percussion cap system and both models saw use during the civil war.

Harper’s Ferry M1803 Rifle: America’s First Military issued Rifle, a Flint Lock system and saw some use in the American Civil War.

Prussian 1809 Pattern Infantry Musket: A Flintlock Musket inspired by French Imperial Guard Design which was bought by American Purchasing Agents and some were converted to Percussion Caps and both were used during the American Civil War.

Springfield M1812 Musket: Improved version of the M1795 which was inspired by the French Charleville M1777. Flintlock System in which some were converted to Percussion Cap and used during the American Civil War.

M1814 Common Rifle: Flintlock Rifle some of which were converted to Percussion Caps and both versions were used in the American Civil War.

Springfield M1816 Musket: Improved Version of the M1812 and was heavily inspired by the French Charleville M1777, in which some were modified to use Percussion Cap. They were used by in the American Civil War.

*Note Most Older Model Springield Muskets Were used by the Confederate even in their Flintlock system forms.

Model 1817 Common Rifle: A Flintlock System rifle which was converted to Percussion Caps and Used in the American Civil War.

Harper’s Ferry M1819 Hall Rifle: Flintlock Breech loading Rifle in which saw use during the American Civil War.

Springfield M1822 Musket: Flintlock System which was an improved model of the M1816 in which was later converted to Percussion caps and used during the American Civil War.

>>2957579
Part 2!

Prussian 1809/31 Infantry Musket: A improvement over the original 1809 Pattern in which they introduced or converted the Percussion cap system

*Note: Apparently Belgium and Austria Hungary also added some arms to the American Civil War in which I covered so I won’t add them to this list. Though I will make note that the Lorenz Rifle was delivered in large numbers. Whether it was the Mark I or the Mark II, I do not know.

Springfield M1835 Musket: A Improvement over the M1816, which was focus on parts interchangeability, was later converted to percussion cap system and used during the American civil war

Springfield M1840 Musket: Slight Improvement over the M1835 and used a flintlock system but was also heavier since it was made in mind for conversions to become a rifled musket. Ued during the American Civil War.

Harper’s Ferry M1841 Hall Rifle: Breech Loader Percussion Cap Rifle: An Improved of the M1819 Hall Rifle. Used during the American Civil War.

Harper’s Ferry M1841 Mississippi Rifle: America’s first original Percussion based rifle in which was later converted to handle Minie Balls and used during the American Civil War.
Bavarian Model M1842 Musket: A Percussion cap musket that some were later converted to handle rifling and the Minie Ball, Saw use in the American Civil War.

Springfield M1842 Musket: Percussion lock smooth bore musket, in which was later converted to a rifle musket and saw use in the American Civil War. First American Musket will fully interchangeable parts.

French Pattern 1851/1859: French Rifled Muskets using the Minie Ball ammunition (Couldn’t find specific patterned used for the civil war so this is generalization)

Enfield Pattern 1853: Britain Rifled Musket using Minie Ball Ammunition. Used during the Civil War mainly by confederates.

Colt M1855 Revolving Carbine: A 5-6 Shot revolving carbine/rifle, which was adopted by the U.S. however there were issues of ammo cooking off and might be considered dangerous. Saw a lot of use with Confederate Soldiers in the American Civil War.

*Note Normally I do not add carbines since we are mainly focusing on equipping infantry but the Colt is the exception since some say it’s a carbine and other a rifle.

Joselyn M1855 Rifle: Percussion Cap, breech loading, Paper Cartage rifle used during the American Civil War.

Springfield M1855 Musket-Rifle: Springfield first Rifled-Musket in which use the Maynard Percussion Cap System though most were converted to standard percussion caps due to complexity and unreliability.

Richmond Armory M1855 Musket Rifle: Confederate Copy of the Springfield M1855 and does not use the Maynard Percussion System due to complexity and unreliability

Remington Model 1816: Original Springfield M1816 converted using the Maynard Percussion Primer system and installed with Rifled Barrels.

Enfield Pattern 1856: Shortened Barrel of the Pattern 1853 for ease of use and transportation.

Whitworth Rifle: A Musket Rifle, which was highly accurate and may come with an optional telescopic sight, mainly used by Confederate Sharpshooters

Allen & Wheelock Drop Breech Rifle: A Drop breech, rimfire cartage rifle mainly bought from private purchase.

Henry Model 1860: A Lever Action Repeating Rifle, using Rimfire cartages and with an ammo capacity of 15 Rounds.

J.F. Brown Target Sharpshooter: A Sniper Rifle, with a muzzle loading and percussion cap syster with adjustable scope, used by trained sharpshooters.

Spencer Model 1860: A Lever Action Repeating Rifle, using Rimfire Cartages with an ammo capacity of 7 rounds.

Bridesburg Model 1861: A Rifled Musket Bought from contract by the U.S. government for the American Civil War.

Springfield M1861: An Improvement over the M1855 which was more rugged, accurate and produced in more numbers.

Colt Special Model 1861: A Colt copy of the Springfield M1861 which used Enfield tooling and Machinery.

Frank Wesson Rifle: Break Action, single shot, Rimfire Rifle.

Dickson Nelson & Co Rifle: A Percussion Cap, Smoothbore, Rifled Musket Version of the M1814 Common Rifle

Fayetteville Model 1862: A copy of the Springfield M1855 which was Refined to the Type II which had a reduced hump.

Bridesburg Model 1863: an Improved version on the Bridesburg Model 1861, Type I had a revised hammer, Type II had revised sights.
Lindsay M1863 U.S. Double Rifle: A Double Barrel Rifled Musket that can be fired from a single chamber

Springfield M1863: Improve model of the Springfield M1861, using some techniques of the Colt Special Model 1861:

Springfield M1864: The Type II of the M1861 in which introduced the original barrel bands of the Springfield M1861 and a revised sight.
Spencer M1865: An Improved model of the Model 1860

Joselyn Model 1865 Rifle: Improvement on the Joselyn M1864 Carbine, using a metal rimfire cartage and in Springfield also converted some of their rifled musket using this action

Miller Model 1861: Conversion of the Springfield M1861 to become a breech loading rimfire cartage.

E.G. Lamson Ball Lever-Action Carbine/Rifle: A Lever Action Rifle that uses 7 Rounds of Rimfire Cartages.


Part 3 and Done.

Though for the sake of it I will ass the Lorenz Rifle.

Lorenz M1854: Original Model

Lorenz M1862: Improved Lockplate and maybe sights.

Hope this helps QM! and if anyone wants any question just ask.

Might do another country but I'm going to go rest and maybe eat. Any suggestion on what I haven't done let me know.

>>2957592
Awesome stuff, Anon!

Also the next story posts will be the last ones for the thread, and since I lost internet a couple times over the last couple days I need to test something.

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You head to the main building, figuring you may as well find Harp and see if anything has changed. You enter and find Harp in the office, going over some paperwork.

“Major,” you greet him.

“Colonel.” He nods at you. “Been a busy day. I finally got that Beretta lad settled in. For now he’ll be sleeping on a cot in one of the empty rooms here in the main building. I think he’s there now, unpacking his effects most likely.”

“Good to hear.” You sit down across from him. “Any other news?”

Harp shrugs. “Not much. You got some mail, same stuff as usual for the most part. I think the lieutenants are still waiting for you to brief them on Matsudaira’s training plan.

“Ah,” you nod. “I should go explain it to them. Do you know where they are?”

“Probably getting supper at the mess hall.” Harp rubs the bridge of his nose tiredly. “How did your meeting in Yokohama go?”

“Well enough. I’ve set up a meeting between Herringold and Matsudaira.”

Harp grins. “That’s good. We’ll need the extra weaponry if we’re to be training a large force.”

“Agreed,” you say. “Anyway, I’ll go brief the officers now.”

“Sounds good.” Harp stands up. “I’ll leave your mail at the door to your quarters.”

With that, you head over to the mess hall. You see the officers all sitting at the same table, so you get some food and head over to see them. They have mixed reactions to Matsudaira’s training plan. Kojima seems receptive to the widespread approach of going out and training groups at various villages, while Sato seems less inclined to the idea. You talk it over with everyone and make sure they understand. With food in your belly and your officers properly briefed, you decide to head back to the main building to get some rest.

The snow is falling a bit heavier by the time you leave the mess hall, and a light dusting of it crunches quietly under your boots as you walk. You arrive at your quarters and give your mail a once-over. Most of it is typical paperwork and correspondence from Edo, as well as the occasional advertisement from the trade district. Again, you see that you’ve gotten a letter from Rochester, New York, and you toss it aside without opening it. You use the small mirror on your basin to shave and wash your face. To your dismay, you spy a tiny bit of gray in your hair, at the roots of your right temple. It shouldn’t come as much surprise, you tell yourself, since your father started to go gray in his early-thirties. You stay up reading for maybe an hour, then get undressed and go to sleep. It’s cold out, so you throw some extra blankets over yourself before snuffing the oil lamp out.

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You don’t sleep well during the night. Several times you awaken with a start from nightmares you can’t remember. One time, you awaken completely unaware of where you are, and you have to sit there and recollect yourself. What’s gotten into you lately? You toss and turn for a while, trying desperately to get back to sleep. Eventually, around 05:30, you fall asleep for real.

You are awakened by a loud knocking at your door. “Sir, we have a problem!” Harp’s muffled voice can be heard on the other side. You look around, seeing bluish-white daylight streaming through your window.

You jump out of bed, throwing your trousers and jacket on over your nightclothes. “Harp! What’s wrong?” You throw the door open to see your Major standing there, looking quite bewildered. “And what time is it?”

“Just after 9, sir.” Harp leads you toward the front door of the main building. “And we’ve got a trespasser.”

You grimace. “Who, hostiles?”

Harp shakes his head. “She doesn’t seem hostile, sir.”

She? Has the mystery woman finally shown herself? You begin walking faster. “Has she given any indication why she’s here?”

Harp nods, swallowing nervously. “She claims she’s here to see you, sir. Mentioned you by name.” So it is the spy! You fling the doors open, and nearly trip from your own surprise.

Standing there, flanked by your soldiers, is a young woman with red hair and a defiant expression you know all too well. She’s cut her hair since you last saw her, but there’s no mistaking the woman’s identity. How in God’s name did she get here? Her eyebrows shoot up as she recognizes you. You are the first to speak. “S-Sarah?”

“… Daniel?” She takes a step forward tentatively.

Oh no. It’s your ex-fiancé.

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And that's all for this thread! Next session and thread will be on Sunday, assuming no schedule changes. As always, post questions, comments, concerns, shitposts, and other stuff and I'll try to answer it in the meantime. Thanks for playing!

>>2957660
You won't take this from me, our second is still clearly a woman.

>>2957660
shiiiit, our ex is here, Nakajima will be jealous

>>2957660
Huh so our Fiance tracked us down HOW?!is she the one writing the letters?

Thanks for running OP

>>2957678
>Spoiler
That's certainly a distinct possibility, Anon.

>>2957693
Hmm. good thing we can't read

>>2957693
wonder if shes a good shot?

>>2957698
Good thing Nakajima is our wife now

>>2957702
>Wanting to waifu the tomboy
>Wanting to promote fraternizing in the ranks

This meme needs to end THE UNION DID NOT BLEED FOR THIS

>>2957716
too late anon, it is set.

>>2957724
no its not

quit being a litreal faggot and wanting to bugger fellow officers instead of qt feminine Geishas or true blooded american girls

>>2957716
why not both?

>>2957716
>Needs to end

Seeing what has happened to the union now, I think it may have died and bled for this.

>>2957727
love will bloom, kek. just calm down m8, you want to start the waifus thing be my guest I'm just saying where my vote is

>>2957730
>Modern american values
>post civil war values

pick one

>>2957487
>eight chambers loaded, with the ninth being empty so the hammer can rest on it.
It's ball-and-cap, so you can load the chamber and just not put a cap on it.

>>2957653
No! Not the waifu wars! NOOOOOOO!

>cute red haired fiance

Why did the MC lefed her again? And more importantly why is she here!

>>2958043
She BLACKED

Inb4 she's a Confederate

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Just a quick heads-up, I have to delay the new thread until Monday. All my free time tomorrow is likely going to be taken up doing a major wiring job on my truck.