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Ten years ago, the warrior race known as the Saiyans were annexed into Emperor Freeza’s army. Since that fateful day, the Saiyans have earned the title of warrior race as Freeza’s soldiers, leading the charge onto hundreds of worlds and facing down all who oppose Lord Freeza’s rule. As mighty conquerors crushing all resistance, the Saiyans have earned their reputation as Freeza’s most powerful subjects.

The larger than life tales of the Saiyans, and especially the Super Saiyans, have spread to every corner of the civilized universe. Epics of the golden warrior or warriors facing down demons, wizards, assassins, armies, champions, and even surviving against both Freeza and the Arbiter are told universe-wide. The mere mention of Super Saiyans inspires awe, admiration, jealousy, or fear, depending on who you ask. This has now lead to the Covenant assembling a mighty army 30,000 warships strong to exterminate the Saiyans once and for all. Your actions from this point forward could either save the Saiyan race, or doom them all.

Welcome to Saiyan Conqueror Quest, currently Age 741, the ten-year anniversary of the Saiyans joining the PTO. You the players control Karn, a Saiyan Berserker with a known base powerlevel of 820,000, a general in Lord Freeza’s army, mate to Meloka, father of Chaya, Chilli and Broly(adoptive), and an inspiration to both the other Saiyans and the rest of the PTO.

Current team:
Meloka-Blaster, 748,000

Character Sheet: https://pastebin.com/iPAJeGJn
Powerlevels: https://pastebin.com/vPb0wswN
Archive link: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?searchall=Saiyan+Conqueror+Quest

Quest rules:
>20 minute vote, 3 votes minimum
>Only first 3 correctly rolled die count, best of the 3 wins
>Crits are 100, unless otherwise stated
>A 99 may net you an extra bonus on a roll
>Crit fails will count ONLY if a 1 is rolled and no roll passes DC, OR two 1s are rolled within the 3 rolls
>Two 1s will OVERRIDE a 100, resulting in crit failure
>I hold final say on any/all decisions, I can and will use this power as-necessary.
>Write-ins are both allowed and encouraged, but can be shut down if too meta or too out-of-established-chatacter
>DO NOT DELETE YOUR POSTS! If you want to change your vote, post your new vote linking to the vote you’re changing. This simplifies things on my end and helps prevent vote miscounts
>I can change any of the above rules at any time for any or no reason
>Have fun

Quest will usually start every Saturday at 11am EST, and run throughout the entire weekend. Also, for updates or schedule changes follow me on twitter @GrandDragonQM

Current Arc: The Covenant War

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_WxpjhzKHI
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>>2765140
SCQ 52
Last time on Saiyan Conqueror Quest:
After taking one of the Covenant warship’s lasers directly, you continued the battle with renewed fervor. After saving a fellow Saiyan by the name of Cassa, you unleashed a new ultimate attack, the appropriately-named Event Horizon, then called the Tamaranean forces back. You’d then held the line, until Aku and his daughters appeared. Then a present from an old ‘friend’ arrived, Meloka cutting the giant lizard in two. You both then flew to the Guardian’s island, aiding the ancient alien and giving him a respite. You and Meloka arrive in time to clear out those attacking him, then you’d felt it as a massive wave descended all over New Salda at once.

”You have fought well, Saiyans.” a booming voice calls out. ”But it is time to put an end to this. All forces! ATTACK!!”

“Of course this attack comes just as Freeza pulls back to rest.” you think as you, Meloka, and the Guardian all watch the ships overhead unleash a swarm of their fighters into New Salda’s sky. Meloka sighs out beside you, you still holding her from helping her back to her feet.

“This is starting to get old.” Meloka says, flaring her Super Saiyan aura up around herself. “How many more of these bastards do we have to kill before they give up and go home?”
”All of them.” you reply, flaring your golden aura up as well. You both begin to float up from the ocean-soaked sands, readying yourselves yet again for battle.

What will you do?
>Rush and attack the warships, try to pull attention towards yourselves
>Rush and attack the fighters, slaughter them
>Defend, focus on protecting the Guardian and give him longer to recover
>Blast the fighters with minimal energy consumption
>Have Meloka cover you, charge up another Event Horizon
>Cover Meloka, let her charge up another large-scale attack
>You and Meloka fire another Hellzone Grenade, cover the island
>Other(write in)
40 minute vote
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>>2765142
>Rush and attack the warships, try to pull attention towards yourselves
time for more wholesome destruction.
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>>2765142
>Blast the fighters with minimal energy consumption
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>>2765142
>Defend, focus on protecting the Guardian and give him longer to recover
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>>2765162
>>2765163
>>2765191
3-way tie, leaving vote open another 10, then I’ll roll breaker if we’re still tied.
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>>2765142
>Blast the fighters with minimal energy consumption
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Rolled 41, 69, 53, 83, 62, 100, 41, 31, 75, 75, 97 = 727 (11d100)

>>2765206
>>2765210
Blast the fighters with minimal energy consumption wins, roll me a d100.
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Rolled 100 (1d100)

>>2765213
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Rolled 78 (1d100)

>>2765213
>>2765216
today we learned how to ki blast without using ki
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>>2765216
>>2765224
CRIT/100. And with a certain ally also getting a crit elsewhere, we’re off to a great start. Writing.
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>>2765142
“But, let’s try and save some energy.” you say, gathering your strength for a Death Beam as the swarm draws closer. “No need to let these weaklings drain our strength.”
“Right.” Meloka replies, you sensing her gathering her energy to attack as well. Right before you fire, however, you get an idea. A wonderful idea. You fire your Death Beam, piercing through the closest unfortunate pilot. But with a small effort of will you curve the beam, piercing through the pilot right beside him. With your razor-like focus you maintain your beam, piercing through pilot after pilot after pilot. Within three seconds your beam has already killed over two dozen pilots, and you’re just getting started!

Whatever Meloka’d been planning to do was abandoned, her copying your attack instead. Your two beams carve twin paths of destruction through the sky, the air quickly filling with explosions where the Covenant fighters had been. As your beam continues carving its twisted path of death, you begin feeling the strain of directing it. A headache begins forming behind your eyes, explosions continually rocking the sky. After your attack destroys another few dozen ships you release it, eyes clamped shut from the pain in your head. Meloka keeps up the attack, finishing the last few while you focus on suppressing the pain in your head. After a few moments the explosions stop, you opening your eyes and looking at the aftermath.

“That was easy.” Meloka says with hand to her head, she’s probably gotten a headache from the strain as well. You look into the sky, the smoke clearing and revealing the warships up ahead. Your and Meloka’s eyes both widen a bit, seeing that several of them are preparing to fire their massive lasers. “Shit!”
“We need to move, now!” you say, seeing the ships are about to fire.

What will you do?
>Barrier, protect you both
>Couple Final Flash, keep the overhead attacks back
>Seperate Final Flashes, block more lasers
>Fly down and have the Guardian throw his barrier over the entire island
>Dragon Fist, rush and smash them before they can fire
>Other(write in)
30 minute vote
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>>2765337
>Couple Final Flash, keep the overhead attacks back
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>>2765337
>>Dragon Fist, rush and smash them before they can fire
Wow, we went Yondu on those pilots.
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>>2765337
>Couple Final Flash, keep the overhead attacks back
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>>2765337
>Dragon Fist, rush and smash them before they can fire
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>>2765337
>>Dragon Fist, rush and smash them before they can fire
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Rolled 7, 10, 15, 39, 62, 100, 43, 100, 91 = 467 (9d100)

>>2765349
>>2765355
>>2765359
>>2765361
>>2765375
Dragon Fist, rush and smash them before they can fire wins. Roll me a 2d100.
First DC 60
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Rolled 95 (1d100)

>>2765412
WHAT THE FUCK
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Rolled 28, 4 = 32 (2d100)

>>2765412
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>>2765415
The Saiyans are in top form today.
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Rolled 47 (1d100)

>>2765415
goddamn I forgot one dice
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Rolled 16, 75 = 91 (2d100)

>>2765412
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Rolled 13, 94 = 107 (2d100)

>>2765412
F
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>>2765425
>>2765419
HOT DAMN
>>2765427
Almost.
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Rolled 94, 43 = 137 (2d100)

>>2765412
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>>2765415
>>2765419
>>2765425
Since you included your second dice here >>2765423 I’ll count it. 95/100, 75/100. Amazing success, writing.
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>>2765443
Oh thank god, >>2765423
Check your shit before hitting post, we got lucky.
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>>2765337
“Take this!!” you roar, flying up further into the air and punching forward as your energy violently explodes forth. “DRAGON FIST!!”

“ROOOOAAAAAAAAR!!!” the golden ki dragon roars as it explodes into life, you charging up and through the closest warship’s energy cannon. The ship explodes as you charge through, turning your giant dragon towards the next ship and charging through it as well. You charge through ship after ship after ship, clearing the skies directly above the Guardian’s island. Within a dozen seconds you’ve destroyed over thirty warships, the rest then firing. None of them were above the island, but their cannons still blast straight into New Salda’s ocean. You don’t have time to focus on that, however, your attention fully on steering your attack. You keep blasting headlong through the warships, your Dragon Fist tearing through them easily. Charging through another few dozen, you feel your attack reaching its end. Focusing on the nearest warship you charge through it with the last of your attack, destroying that ship before the golden dragon fades.

“And don’t, haaaah, come back!” you pant out as your golden aura fades, you trying to catch your breath. You look around as yoy drop towards the ground, looking to see if you missed any. You feel a pair of arms wrap around you, looking over your shoulder you see Meloka’s smile, her kissing your cheek.

“You just relax a moment, I’ll handle this.” she says, laying you on the sand then leaping up. You’re laying on your back, watching her fire another protective Hellzone Grenade over the island. With nothing immediately trying to kill you, you focus your senses on the rest of the planet, to see how the battle is going elsewhere.

King Vegeta, Tatsu, and the others are holding the city for now, relatively very few Covenant warships overhead there. Elsewhere, however, the battle isn’t going as well. Nappa’s group to the north of the continent are getting swamped, millions of Covenant forces having landed. The same situatuon is unfolding to the south, Leyas and Sarada’s group being swarmed as well. Over the vast forest the Covenant have begun touching down as well, you feeling them massing in three different areas. In two they’re uncontested, while a small group of thirty Saiyans try to hold back the third.

What will you do?
>Remain here and rest, you need to gather your strength before rushing in again.
>You and Meloka split up, attack the two uncontested Covenant landing groups
>Travel to the city, rally everyone there
>Split up, you help Nappa while Meloka helps Leyas and Sarada
>Split up, you help Leyas and Sarada while Meloka helps Nappa
>Both of you remain here, watch over the Guardian and let him rest longer
>Other(write in)
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>>2765595
>Both of you remain here, watch over the Guardian and let him rest longer
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>>2765595
>>You and Meloka split up, attack the two uncontested Covenant landing groups
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>>2765595
>You and Meloka split up, attack the two uncontested Covenant landing groups
dangerous if left unattended.
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>>2765595
>Both of you remain here, watch over the Guardian and let him rest longer
We need to rest too, if we keep running ragged, then we will play right into Arbies hands. He's trying to fucking tarpit us.
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>>2765595
>>Remain here and rest, you need to gather your strength before rushing in again.
Lets not forget what we will be up against soon...
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>>2765614
>>2765627
>>2765629
>>2765634
>>2765641
I left two of the answers too similar, so I’m combining them into one. Watching over the Guardian and resting wins, writing.
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>>2765595
You want to move, to get up and continue taking the fight go the Covenant, but you also know what you will soon have to face. You haven’t forgotten the Arbiter’s strength, and how easily he was able to overpower you and Meloka. So despite your first impulse to rush back into the fray, you force yourself to lay there, recovering. After another minute Meloka finishes her Hellzone Grenade, landing beside you in the sand. Sle flops back onto her back as well, reaching over and grabbing your hand. You both lace your fingers together, enjoying the moment of peace in this day of war. Another minute or so passes, then the Guardian hobbles over to you both.

“Well you have done, so far.” he says, sitting cross-legged next to you both. “Gather your strength, you should.”
“That’s what we’re doing.” you say, chest still heaving a bit as you still try to fully catch your breath. “Isn’t it?”
“Sit like this, you should.” he says, gesturing to himself. You and Meloka look to each other, then shrug and follow the Guardian’s lead. He instructs you both to sit backs straight, hands resting palms-up on your knees, and breathe in deep. You feel yourself relaxing, the weariness of the battle fading away as you lose yourself. You feel your senses expand on their own, you seemingly observing the entire battle at once as the energy of the living beings on New Salda seems to flow into and through you.

Tatsu and Vegeta finish clearing out the last of the Covenant near the city as Nappa’s group begins getting overwhelmed, two of the Saiyans there under his command dying. Instead of letting the rest of his people sacrifice themselves against impossible odds, he has them pull back and begin fighting their way back towards the city. Meanwhile Leyas and Sarada’s group keep fighting against their impossible odds, you feeling a few of their soldiers begin falling. Elsewhere, the Covenant continue their assault. You sense the two uncontested Covenant landing groups deploying soldiers, their forces headed towards the city. Unfortunately, you sense that the small group of thirty Saiyans are getting quickly overwhelmed, half of them have already been slaughtered as more and more of the Covenant land there. At this rate they probably won’t make it. Your eyes open in alarm, the Guardian looking seriously at you as an odd light blue glow fades from around you.

“We need to move.” you say, rising to your feet. But as you stand, something feels off.

>Roll me a d100
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Rolled 16 (1d100)

>>2765847
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Rolled 27 (1d100)

>>2765847
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Rolled 35 (1d100)

>>2765847
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Rolled 82 (1d100)

>>2765847
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Rolled 99 (1d100)

>>2765847
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Rolled 91, 72, 84, 67, 31 = 345 (5d100)

>>2765851
>>2765859
>>2765861
35/100. You got a noticable amount of your energy back, but not as much as you could have. Writing.
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>>2765876
sucks to suck =(
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>>2765847
As you rise to your feet, you feel that energy that had been flowing through you beginning to fade away. The glow fades completely from around you as well, yet you feel stronger than when you’d sat down. You look questioningly to the Guardian, the ancient alien covered in the same light blue glow.

“With the energies of the living, you have both connected.” the Guardian tells you, you noticing Meloka covered in the same fading glow as she rises to her feet. “Some measure of your strength, I have restored. More help, I wish I could give.”
“It’s alright, thank you.” you say, nodding to the Guardian. You then look to Meloka, her face serious as she nods back. She clearly sensed what was happening as well. You both float up from the island, the knowledge that you’ll have to split up again bothering you more that you’d thought. But the battle has taken a turn for the worse, you have too much to do in too little time to stick together.

What will you do?
>Help defend the city
>Help Nappa’s forces reach the city safely
>Help Leyas and Sarada’s group hold out
>Stop the first uncontested Covenant landing group
>Stop the second uncontested Covenant landing group
>Aid the small group of Saiyan survivors
>Other(write in)
What will you have Meloka do?
>Help defend the city
>Help Nappa’s forces reach the city safely
>Help Leyas and Sarada’s group hold out
>Stop the first uncontested Covenant landing group
>Stop the second uncontested Covenant landing group
>Aid the small group of Saiyan survivors fighting
>Other(write in)
30 minute vote
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>>2765993
>Split up and regroup with the two teams, go charge the two uncontested landing groups.
>Grab the small group of Saiyan survivors first.
Mass grab for more shooty potential.
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>>2765993
>>Help Leyas and Sarada’s group hold out
>Aid the small group of Saiyan survivors fighting
Gotta' keep the boys up.
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>>2765993
>Split up and regroup with the two teams, go charge the two uncontested landing groups.
>Grab the small group of Saiyan survivors first.
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>>2765993
>Stop the first uncontested Covenant landing group
>Aid the small group of Saiyan survivors fighting
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>>2765993
>Grab the saiyan survivors, and tell leyas and sarada to pull back
>Everyone group up back at the city
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Have ties for both options, leaving vote open another 10 minutes then I’ll roll tiebreaker if either/both are still deadloked.
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>>2765993
>Stop the first uncontested Covenant landing group
>Aid the small group of Saiyan survivors fighting
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Rolled 79, 51, 84, 31, 70, 94, 9 = 418 (7d100)

>>2766026
>>2766028
>>2766050
>>2766058
>>2766103
>>2766157
You take the first uncontested group while Melok aides the small group of survivors wins it. Roll me a 2d100.
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Rolled 70, 22 = 92 (2d100)

>>2766184
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Rolled 98, 42 = 140 (2d100)

>>2766184
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Rolled 39, 92 = 131 (2d100)

>>2766184
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Rolled 6, 46 = 52 (2d100)

>>2766184
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Rolled 50, 8 = 58 (2d100)

>>2766184
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>>2766186
>>2766190
>>2766187
Wooooot
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>>2766186
>>2766187
>>2766190
98/100, 92/100. Doubly impressive, writing.
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>>2765595
God. Damn.

The reaction to that dragon fist ending countless billions of lives has got to be good.
I can imagine the quiet in every bar, home and corner store across the galaxy as they watched that shit.

Imagine seeing the sky over some distant world filled with warships, each one alone capable of conquering your piss-poor, backwater planet by themselves.
And then some supposedly legendary warrior turns into a fucking dragon and punches through like fifty of them at once.
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>>2766243
the Event Horizon already did that, but then again there's no such thing as overkill
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>>2766300
What the Event Horizon has in pure shock value, the Dragon Fist has in presentation.
I can only imagine how many kids across the Galaxy are gonna be running around with their fist held forwards while screaming "ROOOOOOAAAARRRR"
We're basically Power Rangers tier marketable
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>>2765993
“Help those survivors, I’ll try and slow the tide!” you shout to Meloka as you blast off from the sands of the Guardian’s island. You sense her energy moving after a moment, headed towards the swiftly-dwindling group of Saiyans. You hope she makes it in time, blasting over the open waters then over the mainland. You quickly charge to the group you’d picked to destroy, the forest scorched away in a wide area to make room for the Covenant ships to land. A half-dozen have already landed, another score overhead awaiting their turn to unload as yet another are firing their lasers into the forest, expanding their landing area further.

A much closer threat, however, is the Covenant army they’ve deployed Dozens of their massive six-legged living tanks are escorted by hundreds of Covenant tanks and more one-man ground craft, the vehicles all headed toward the city and not having noticed you yet. Taking advantage of this you raise your arms up, quickly forming a Super Energy Bomb overhead.

“Oh shit its him!”
“Shoot him down, quick!”
“I don’t wanna die!”
“Fuck this, run away!!”

You hear shouting coming from the Covenant forces, but its far too late for them. With a roar you toss the massive ki bomb down, it landing near the center of their forces, then exploding. The blast obliterates the Covenant forces, the shockwaves blasting out from your attack and slamming into you and the still-flying ships. One of the warships on the ground, the closest to the blast is toppled, the force kicking it over onto its back. You sigh out, keeping your breathing even as you can now feel the entire assembled Covenant force’s attention on you. The remaining upright ships on the ground begin pouring their forces from them, as a dozen or so ships in the air unleash their attack wings.

“Alright you bastards, let’s do this!” You shout, cracking your knuckles as you flare your golden Super Saiyan aura up again.

What now?
>Attack the grounded ships deploying troops
>Attack the ships clearing the forest
>Attack the fighters
>Attack the warships overhead
>Try another Event Horizon, attack everything at once
>Fly into the middle and Super Explosive Wave, try and wipe them all out
>Other(write in)
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>>2766483
>>Fly into the middle and Super Explosive Wave, try and wipe them all out
>Make sure to shout really angrily
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>>2766483
this>>2766497
BUT, Hyper Explosion Wave
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>>2766435
You bet your ass Freeza is gonna take advantage of this to market us with the help of Gleeman Vox. Mass merchandise will enable us to be remembered forever.
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>>2766512
Going with this basically
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>>2766483
>Fly into the middle and Super Explosive Wave, try and wipe them all out
>Shout super angery
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>>2766483
>>Attack the grounded ships deploying troops
Shark closest to the boat and all that.
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>>2766517
If we survive this, anyways.
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Rolled 94, 48, 21, 32, 68, 11, 20, 38, 2 = 334 (9d100)

>>2766497
>>2766512
>>2766531
>>2766541
>>2766544
Super Explosive Wave wins. Now, an important question:
More powerful version?
>yes
>no
10 minute vote
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>>2766589
Yes, we are wiping these fuckers out.
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>>2766589
>>no
Too risky.
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>>2766589
Yes
Remove Covenant from the face of New Salda
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>>2766589
>>no
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>>2766589
>yes
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>>2766589
>no
We're just going to blow ourselves up like that, the difference between our ki control and meloka's is quite clear at this point.
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>>2766589
>no
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>>2766589
>>yes
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>2766601
>>2766602
>>2766603
>>2766607
>>2766614
>>2766616
>>2766621
>>2766622
Tie, so I’ll roll tiebreaker.
>1
Yes
>2
No
Whichever wins, roll me a d100.
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Rolled 35 (1d100)

Also i was busy with real shit so i wasn't here to remind you, but
CONSERVE ENERGY

Reminder, this is a seige, not a single battle.
We will still need to rest at least a few more times, and we didn't recover all that much energy from meditation.
We really shouldn't even be using super explosive wave right now

>>2766636
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Rolled 82 (1d100)

>>2766636
Don't blow up.
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Rolled 72 (1d100)

>>2766636
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Rolled 11 (1d100)

>>2766636
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>>2766643
>>2766646
>>2766648
82/100. Impressive, and yes wins it. Writing.
Now’s a good time for throwing out names for this super Super Explosive Wave.
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>>2766643
Uhhhh, I guess I need to remind YOU, that Arbie just canceled the siege and sent everything is at once. We probably got 5 or 6 more hours left, at most.
>>2766646
But we do want to blow up though, its just that we live after, and everything nearby is ash.
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>>2766658
Karnage Wave
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>>2766658
BIG BANG ATTACK
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>>2766658
Hmmm....>>2766666
Going with Super Satan.
>>2766667
Sorry, would love to vote for it, but we already have the attack with a better name. Also how much shit is our friends going to give us after hearing the name, Carnage wave?
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>>2766658
Crimson Nova
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>>2766683
Ooooooh, that is a good one, but it doesn't roll off the tongue when screaming.
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>>2766658
>>2766689
Well, the japanese for it would be something like "Shinku no Shinsei"
Translating roughly to "Deep Crimson Supernova"

How about Red Dawn?
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>>2766728
>Red Dawn
Ooh. Cool and thematically appropriate.
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>>2766689
Or you could just imagine karn straining and grunting before simply simply whispering "Crimson... Nova!"
As the whole world turns red and, for a moment, a new star forms on the horizon as a billion souls scream out in terror before being silenced.
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>>2766728
That is more like it
>>2766759
Naw, still doesn't roll off the tongue, Red Dawn is way better
>>2766658
Switching to Red Dawn
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>>2766759
Edgy. I LOVE IT

>>2766658
backing Red Dawn in >>2766728, but some QM acknowledgement of Super Satan over at >>2766666, preferably by checking those numbers, would be great
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>>2766765
Either's fine with me.
I'm making me two buckets of chicken livers, don't get killed while i'm gone

and have a cute gine
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>>2766666
>>2766667
>>2766671
>>2766683
>>2766728
>>2766752
>>2766765
>>2766768
Red Dawn it is. Now I have to rewrite a bit, changing a few things in the post. Also I always see the digits, however checking them’s not my job. I have updates to write.
>>2766778
Nice. And also nice.
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>>2766483
You can’t let any of them get away, you have to stop all of them here. But most of your attacks can’t hit them all, not at once. You have no choice, you have to go for it! You quickly blitz over to the air over the grounded ships, flaring your golden aura up as you cross your arms before your chest and face.

“You come to my homeworld, threaten me and my people, and expect to live?!” you shout to no one in particular, Ascending as you gather in more power. You also spot a few of Vox’s cameras, the Covenant seemingly ignoring them for some reason. “I’ll kill every last one of you!”

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hLDtlBlSLxA

“Someone shoot him down!”
“Shit, he’s gonna blow!”
“Everyone get clear!”
“We’re all gonna die!”
“No you don’t!”

You hear the Covenant around you, scrambling to either stop you or flee. But you know it is far too late for any of them now.

RRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!” you roar, your power exploding out from you from all sides. This energy is so much more than you’d ever released at once before. You scream out in agony as your power seemingly tears itself free from you to obliterate your foes. Your world disappears, replaced with a brilliant red light. Sight and sound disappear, only the red glow and roaring of your own ki remain. You struggle for several seconds before you’re able to close the floodgates. As the light fades, you look around and examine the aftermath. You’re floating over an absolutely massive crater, larger than any you’ve ever seen before much less made.

-Red Dawn learned-

You’re struggling to keep floating, so instead of continuing the struggle you let yourself fall back to the ground. You land on your feet in the middle of the massive crater, falling back onto your back to catch your breath. You’re left alone, closing your eyes and focusing your ki sense. You sense nothing living anywhere near you, your attack having done its job. But you feel you perhaps spent too much energy, your limbs feeling slightly numb. As you lay there, you soon hear something approaching. Opening your eyes you see another Vox camera looking down at you, you seeing your reflection in the giant lens. The first thing you notice is that you’ve dropped back to your base form. Before you get up, however, you’re suddenly contacted telepathically.

“Karn, can you hear me?” Leyas asks.
“Leyas, what’s wrong?” you think back, struggling a bit to push yourself to your feet.
“We need your help, we’re losing ground fast.” he replies, you feeling his desperation. “We’re not gonna make it.”
“I’m on my way!” you reply, transforming back into your Super Saiyan form and blasting up off the ground towards his energy. You just hope you can make it to him in time!
cont
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>>2766778
fuck, my chicken livers exploded in the pan and splashed hot oil on my hand.
never been burned this bad before, gonna have to go to urgent med.

welp.
fuck, this burns
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>>2766909
Think we should draw on the blood stone for a quick power boost anons, or nah?
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>>2766962
That sucks anon, good luck. Been burned bad before, hope you get that treated.
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>>2766982
Probably.

Theres also the BAD idea of going legendary, it generates its own energy.
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>>2766962
>Oh shit this hurts so fucking much man aahhhhhh!
>Better type up a message for mah' bros.
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>>2766909
You fly through the war-torn skies of New Salda, speeding towards Leyas with a mind full of worry. The Covenant are causing massive damage to the planet, and from what you can sense have done a number on the Saiyans as well. The Tamaraneans are doing better than before, with them all focused close together instead of spread thin over the entire planet. The Daughters of Aku are also carving their own paths of destruction, as well as the Master of Darkness in the void of space. But your attention snaps to what’s before you, you arriving to Leyas and Sarada’s battlefield. And it’s a mess.

“DIE!!” Oozaru Leyas roars, standing defiantly above a wounded Sarada. He then fires a beam from his mouth, blasting down another Covenant warship. But they’re hopelessly outnumbered, the half-dozen Oozaru and the dozen regular Saiyans still standing all desperately protecting their wounded and the Power Balls. The Covenant are attacking them from the land and air, Covenant tanks, six-legged tanks and small one-man craft fight alongside their fighters and warships, attacking the Saiyans from all sides.

What now?
>Attack the fighters, clear the skies
>Energy Javelin the warships, take them out quick before they can prepare their cannons
>Focus on the ground forces, drop Energy Bombs and Scattershots from the air
>Blast clear a path, give them a route to retreat toward the city while you hold then off
>Evacuate the wounded yourself, quickly carry them to the arena to be evacuated
>Hellzone Grenade around the Saiyans, cover them with the minefield to keep the Covenant back
>Other(write in)
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>>2767029
>>Hellzone Grenade around the Saiyans, cover them with the minefield to keep the Covenant back
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>>2767029
>Evacuate the wounded yourself, quickly carry them to the arena to be evacuated
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>>2767029
>Hellzone Grenade around the Saiyans, cover them with the minefield to keep the Covenant back
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Rolled 70, 22, 23, 62, 100, 48, 8, 13, 94, 62 = 502 (10d100)

>>2767036
>>2767049
>>2767057
Hellzone Grenade wins, roll me a 2d100.
First DC 60.
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Rolled 78, 98 = 176 (2d100)

>>2767124
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Rolled 59, 46 = 105 (2d100)

>>2767128
i was about to roll... but nice job
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>>2767029
>>Hellzone Grenade around the Saiyans, cover them with the minefield to keep the Covenant back
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Rolled 92, 62 = 154 (2d100)

>>2767124
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>>2767128
>>2767132
>>2767150
92/100, 98/100. Doubly impressive overwatch, writing.
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>>2767162
Hohohohoh
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>>2767162
>Doubly impressive overwatch

Indeed. One could even say we are making widows.
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>>2767029
“I’m here!” you shout, blasting right over to Leyas. Looking closer, you see that he’s in rough shape. He’s bleeding from his scalp and a few dozen wounds to his chest, yet he’s still standing tall. None of the other Saiyans are in any better shape, several unable to stand yet still firing blast after blast. You stop right over Leyas’ head, gathering your ki into your palms. “HELLZONE GRENADE!!”

You roar out as you fire blast after blast, quickly forming the minefield around the besieged Saiyans as a shield. You fire mine after mine into the New Salda skies, filling the skies with explosive death in a dome around the Saiyans. You’re left panting, your energy dipping as you fire a few more blasts to finish up the sphere of protection around yourself and the other Saiyans.

“That, haaaah, that should hold them.” you pant out, still exhausted from your previous attack. “Ev, haah, everyone alright?”
“We’ve got nine dead, and another dozen too injured to fight.” Kabuya says, arms wrapped around herself in her base form. She’s staring off wide-eyed at nothing, clearly shocked. “We’re all gonna die.”
“We’re not dying here.” Leyas grumbles, his booming voice startling her a bit. “We’re getting everyone still alive out of this! Now we just have to figure out how.”
“Le...yas...” Sarada’s Oozaru form weakly calls, clutching at his leg. “He-Help me up. I can still fight!”
“Sarada, stay down.” you say, flying over into her field of view. “We’re gonna get you out of here, okay?”
“Karn?” she asks, confused, then relaxing back to the ground. “You... really made... it...”

With that she loses consciousness, returning back to her base form over the next several seconds. Taking stock of your surroundings, you see that there are a dozen normal Saiyans still able to fight, as well as another half dozen battle-ready Oozaru Saiyans including Leyas. Two Oozaru are down, unable to get up but still willing to fight, and thirteen Saiyans are all down for the count but still alive. You need some kind of plan, or you could all perish here.

Well?
>Write in plan
30 minute planning/vote window
If no one can think up a plan I’ll have one, but it may not be the most efficient path to victory
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>>2767006
yeah, it's standard procedure
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>>2767325
Legendary super saiyan oozaru.
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>>2767325
Fuck it. Golden Oozaru!!
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>>2767346
Backing. Going full LSSJ Oozaru would probably cause us to accidentally the planet we're saving, but regular Gold Oozaru, as horribly draining as it is, would at least keep everyone around us safe and give us our nuke chance.
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>>2767006
I'm back, bro!
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>>2767389
>posting from the ceiling
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>>2767341
>>2767346
>>2767371
I’ll ask just this once: are you sure?
>>2767389
Good to see.
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>>2767325
Recharge our energy levels by pulling from our blood stone, and then flash up to ssj 1 and clear the area. Order the sayans to retreat to a fall back position if we still have any left.
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>>2767416
my phone is shit, sorry.

>>2767420
NO NO NO NO
fuck, i just got done reading, use the blood stone to recharge as quickly as possible and use energy javelins and death beams to turn the tide
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>>2767420
Voting no for golden oozaru
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>>2767420
YES. Recharge energy with the bloodstone, and let's fucking GO!!!!
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>>2767424
This it’s too risky to go golden Oozaru, especially in our exhausted state
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>>2767420
Heeeeell yeah! DO IT.
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>>2767420
Nah. Recharge with blood stone and then start chuckin' energy javelins and death beams. Golden Oozaru will have to wait another day.
LIke when we need to eat Cooler.
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>>2767420
You’re all nuts, the Arbiter isn’t even here yet, going Golden Oozaru would screw us over. We barely maintained control and consciousness last time we used it, and we rolled high as hell last time. If we screw up the roll we’re either going to pass out or go normal Oozaru, which would be disastrous. Voting no for Golden Oozaru.
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>>2767325

I'll second this: >>2767460
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>>2767420
No I'm not sure. I'm full of cucumber and Turkey I'm not thinking straight. Just recharge with bloodstone for now.
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>>2767420
I say we recharge from the Bloodstone a bit, Ascend to ASSJ, then clear the area with energy javelins. Have the other Saiyans focus on firing ki blasts and beams through the minefield, and defending themselves if the Covenant break through. Once the area is mostly clear, we start to retreat to whatever the closest stable group is. Vegeta’s and the main Saiyan force I guess.
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>>2767420
BACKING >>2767485
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>>2767420
Also that's a FUCK NO from me in regards to Golden Oozaru
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>>2767325

I will also support this: >>2767485
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Rolled 50, 4, 60, 81, 83, 75, 63, 49, 12, 100 = 577 (10d100)

>>2767341
>>2767346
>>2767371
>>2767424
>>2767428
>>2767430
>>2767431
>>2767438
>>2767460
>>2767461
>>2767467
>>2767485
>>2767492
>>2767498
>>2767511
Use the Bloodstone then clear the area wins. Roll me a 2d100, let’s see how this goes.
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Rolled 28, 97 = 125 (2d100)

>>2767518
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>>2767522
....I did one half of the job, the rest I leave up to you!
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Rolled 31, 19 = 50 (2d100)

>>2767518
2nd degree burns, 2 dice?
coincidence? i think not.
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Rolled 4, 63 = 67 (2d100)

>>2767518
>2767518
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Rolled 20, 90 = 110 (2d100)

>>2767518
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Rolled 21, 72 = 93 (2d100)

>>2767518
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>>2767531
Well, that could have gone better
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>all first rolls are sub 35
Daaaaaaaaaaaamn
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>>2767536
The important one got the high roll, so it's good.
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>>2767522
>>2767527
>>2767530
31/100, 97/100. Interesting mixed bag, writing.
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>>2767549
anything related to getting energy back seems to be fucking us right now.
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Rolled 50, 34 = 84 (2d100)

>>2767557
All we need to do is eat some of the flash-fried covenant on the ground. Check it
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Rolled 82, 56 = 138 (2d100)

i wanna roll too guys
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>>2767542
my luck is apparently extra, extra shit today.
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>>2767325
“I... I need more.” you say, clenching your fist in anger. If you had more power you could end this quickly, but you’ve burned through a lot of your power already. If only... wait! You pull the Bloodstone from where you’d stored it, the gem warm to the touch. During the last few months before the battle you’d made sure to refil the Bloodstone. It isn’t quite up to where it was before Trunks and those Time Patrollers crashed your wedding, but you’d still pumped quite a bit of power back into it. And you need that power back now. Focusing on the ki within the stone, you begin drawing it back into yourself. It feels like a bolt of lightning hitting you in the chest, unwillingly transforming you into your Ascended form. You begin pulling more and more power from it, the energy easing the soreness in your body and leaving you feeling refreshed. You cut the pull before you can completely drain the stone, but you pulled quite a bit from it. With this energy, you can do this!

“Everyone, get ready!” you call out, lightning dancing through your aura and around your body as you tuck the stone back away. “I’m going to clear us a path. All Oozaru, pick up the injured and prepare to move! We’re only gonna get one shot at this!”
“You heard him, move!” Leyas shouts, gingerly picking up Sarada in one of his massive hands. The other mobile Oozaru pick up the injured, you moving to the two other Oozaru. One’s missing a leg below the knee, where another seems unable to move anything below her waist.
“Karn. A word.” one says, you floating up to their head level.
“We’re not going to survive this.” the other says matter-of-factly. “Don’t waste your time on trying to get us out. We’ll buy you time to get them away.”

You don’t try to discourage them, simply nodding.

“Your sacrifices won’t be forgotten. What are your names?” you ask them, as the other Oozaru lift the wounded and prepare to move.
“I’m Maz.” the guy says.
“I’m Kayle.” she says. “Now please, hurry!”

“Right. Good hunting you two.” you tell them, floating back down to the rest. “Everyone ready?”

The other Saiyans and Oozaru nod to you, no one speaking. Its time!
cont
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>>2767737

are we supposed to be fucking the covnent this hard? im seeing a lot of 90+ rolls
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>>2767744
even this still isn't close to hard enough
well, i guess i'm gonna try to get to sleep. g'night lads.
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>>2767744
>meanwhile, in space: 20,000 more ships waiting for their turns
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>>2767765

yeah, bt think about the moral plummet from karn just fucking rectally ravaging the covent fleet so far
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>>2767771

It's okay.

They can just blame it on the Elites.
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>>2767771
Religious fanatics are immune to fear. And no one cares what the grunts think. They just get kicked until they fight.
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>>2767821

The pious rank-and-file are probably going to take the losses with a grain of salt.

But if Halo 2 is of any indication, there's plenty of politicking and power grabs/power plays being done in the uppermost ranks pretty regularly. If this attack fails, someone's head is going to roll.
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>>2767846
I assume they’d heap all the blame on the Arbiter, who’s head will already be rolling if we have anything to say on the matter.
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>>2767737
“NOW!!” you roar, throwing your arms wide and sending your Hellzone Grenade exploding out and away from you in every direction. The mines fly out, exploding against the surrounding Covenant forces. But you’re not done yet. With your arms spread wide, you quickly gather energy into your palms, slamming them together and mixing the energies quickly to fire a powerful attack.

“FINAL FLASH!!” you roar, the hastily-charged Final Flash blasting across the landscape. Your attack consumes everything in its path, you ending the attack and reverting back to a normal Super Saiyan. “GO! Move move move!!”
“CHARGE!!” Leyar roars, taking point and blasting forward. The rest follow him, the Oozaru leading the charge then the regular Saiyans following behind. One looks back, you catching a glimpse of Kabuya’s face before she turns, following the others. But you don’t have anymore time to think on them, focusing on the rest of the Covenant forces around you.

“DIE!!” Maz roars, firing a massive energy blast from his mouth into the sky, while Kayle fires a pair of waves from her palms. You focus first on the overhead warships, taking each down with one or two Energy Javelins each. With you, Maz, and Kayle fighting together, you keep the Covenant forces focused on you and not on the retreating Saiyans. You keep your senses partially focused on them as you battle, tracking their progress. After about three minutes of firing your Energy Javelins, you can sense that they’ve made it to the arena.

“Raven, can you open the portal again?” you telepathically ask the witch.
“Of course.” she replies immediately, and after a moment you can again sense Freeza’s ki from the other side, as well as the other Saiyans. But after a few moments, you sense something go wrong. Suddenly the portal closes.
“Raven?” you think out, confused. “What happened?”

But you get no response, you can’t contact her at all. But before you can question it further:

“AAAAAAAAAHHHH!!” Aku roars in pain as he falls from space, slamming through several nearby Covenant warships and smashing to the ground near you.
“Aku?! What’s wrong?” you ask, turning to the demon. “What happened?”
“Something is wrong, Saiyan.” Aku says, coughing a dark fluid into a fist. “They’ve somehow disturbed the flow of magic here, its draining my powers. Me and my daughters must leave, else we will be destroyed!”
“Dammit.” you reply. “Fine, hurry up and get out of here. And thanks for the help Aku.”
“You are welcome, Super Saiyan.” Aku says, his form seemingly beginning to melt a bit. “Now, I must leave. Good luck.”

And with that’s he’s gone. You turn back to the wounded Oozaru, both holding onto each other.

“Go, get clear Karn.” Kayle says, her opening an eye and looking at you. “We’re gonna take these bastards with us!”
cont
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>>2767940
Hey Arbies if you and yours are fucking with adoptive goth daughteru we're going to have personal problems.
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>>2767940
>covies can straight up shit magic and shit down
well fuck thats bullshit.
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>>2767940
Well, at least Aku took out plenty of them down before he and his children had to get going. Annoying that the Covies are interfering with magic though. Wonder how they’re doing it?
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>>2767940
You say nothing, simply nodding and giving them a Saiyan salute. You take to the air, flying in the direction the other Saiyans fled as well. You turn back, watching as the Covenant close in on the two mortally wounded Saiyans. You sense it before it happens, the two of them raising their powers in anticipation of their final attack. You witness it as it happens, Maz and Kayle using all of their remaining energy to take as many Covenant with them as they can. There’s no roar of anger, no declaration of vengeance. One moment the two Oozaru are holding each other, and the next they’re gone, replaced by a massive explosion.

“You won’t be forgotten.” you mutter, the waves from the blast knocking you slightly back. You watch as the explosion fades, you sensing all the powerlevels there fade into nothingness. All that remains of them is a massive crater. You look on in sadness for a few moments, turning from the sight of Maz and Kayle’s sacrifice. You have to make sure it wasn’t in vain, and win this.

Focusing your senses, you can tell the battlefield has changed yet again. The Covenant have resumed their attack on the city, the first of the forces that landed in the forest have reached it and begun their attack while more warships seemingly attack from the air. King Vegeta, Bardock, Turles, and Nappa are all defending the city as Super Saiyans, fighting with the majority of the other Saiyans there. Elsewhere, you sense the Covenant touching down in several other places on the continent, and entering the atmosphere uncontested at that. The group Meloka went to save have lost even more, only seven of them remain now. But you can sense they’re headed towards the arena, which is closer to them than the city. Meanwhile the Guardian has been re-engaged in battle, the Covenant trying to attack him. Knowing the old alien, they’re probably not having any more success now than before. However, whatever they’re doing to shut down Raven and Aku’s magic is a concern, especially with Freeza gone. Dammit!

What now?
>Go defend the arena, there’s still wounded there
>Go to the city, the Covenant will focus their attack soon
>Go help the Guardian, he is all by himself
>Go off on your own, slow down the Covenant forces arriving from space to the mainland
>Other(write in)
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>>2768101
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
too many choices

Guardian can defend himself easy. That's not magic he uses, it's a mirror of The Force, so he'll be fine.
Four fucking Super Saiyans defending the city alongside everyone else should be enough for them.
This only leaves either going to defend the arena's wounded or taking over at Space Defense.
>Telepathically contact Meloka, tell her to defend the wounded while we cover space and slow the Covenant. Remind her to NOT expend too much power.
Rapid-fire Energy Javelins and super brief Death Beams should be our go-to techniques to outlast these fuckers.
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>>2768101
>Go off on your own, slow down the Covenant forces arriving from space to the mainland
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>>2768101
>>Go defend the arena, there’s still wounded there
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>>2768101
>>Go defend the arena, there’s still wounded there
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>>2768120
>>2768125
>>2768130
>>2768141
Go defend the arena wins. Writing.
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Why didn't you guys get raven to teleport layas and sarada's group out?
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>>2768193
Raven’s magic was cut off by the Covie’s before she was able to doing any more porting.
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>>2768254
Do*
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>>2768160
How are casualties looking on both sides, by the way?
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>>2768101
“Cooler, can you hear me?” you ask, thinking to Freeza’s older brother.
“It’s LORD Cooler to you, Saiyan.” is Cooler’s curt reply. “And unfortunately yes, I can. What do you want?”
“We’ve lost our ability to communicate with our portal magic user somehow, and Aku and his people are being attacked by some sort of anti-magic weapon.” you tell him quickly, blasting off towards the arena. “Can you see whatever’s causing it from up there?”
“Hmm, that’s certainly a problem with my little brother so far away.” Cooler replies after a moment. “And that fool Aku was competent enough. Very well, I’ll look for whatever’s jamming your magic.”
“Thanks Cooler.” you reply, Cooler indignatly shouting ‘That’s Lord Co-‘ before you cut the link, arriving at the arena.

Looking down you see Leyas has taken up a position defending the arena, along with the other Saiyans who were still in fighting shape who’d brought their teammates to be evacuated. You also see a few dozen injured Saiyans, who were stranded here when the Covenant began blocking magic. They’re all unable to fight, several maimed. You feel your teeth gritting and fists clenching in anger, looking down on your fellow Saiyans and hearing their cries of pain. You turn your gaze skyward, to yet more Covenant warships entering the atmosphere.

“YOU BASTARDS!!” you roar, Ascending as your rage gets the better of you. “I’LL KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU!!”

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 52 paused-
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>>2768291
And that’s it for tonight, everyone having fun? Ready to continue the battle tomorrow? I’ll be around a bit for questions, we’ll resume at 1pm EST Sunday.
>>2768256
I reckon I can do a halftime report:
>Covenant
19,922/30,000
>Tamaraneans
201/302
>Saiyans
5,684/6109
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>>2768291
>That’s Lord Co-‘ before you cut the link
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>>2768301
>Tfw we're not even half way done with the second wave yet

WAKE ME UP INSIDE.
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>>2768314
Glad you caught that one. Karn is pretty good at getting under Cooler’s uptight skin.
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>>2768329
>Can’t wake up
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>>2768291
>And that fool Aku was competent enough.

>says the guy that got ventilated by someone he considers inferior

>about the guy who could mop the floor with him because he cannot be hurt by conventional means

I'm not sure if he's lacking in self awareness or he's trying to put up a cool image.
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>>2768367
>I'm not sure if he's lacking in self awareness or he's trying to put up a cool image.
He’s basically the spoiled rich kid slightly disconnected from reality. He thinks that he’s superior than most by default.
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>>2768384
Well I mean being born with a power level in the tens of millions probably does wonders for your self-esteem.
>>2768301
Oof, only around a third of the way through eh? At least we’ve not lost too many Saiyans. Worried fatigue’s going to start catching up soon for most of our people though, especially with Aku and his daughters pulling back. Should we all just pull back to the city Vegeta and the others are at, and try to turtle up? The planet’s going to take a beating but at this point I’m pretty sure that’s unavoidable.
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>>2768301
What's the base powerlevel/how strong does our body need to be for SSJ4 aka Primal Super Saiyan to become available to us? Since you mentioned SSJ3 being obsolete, and SSJ4 being superior and easier to handle.
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>>2768402
That it does, and this second phase is going to be getting rough.
>>2768436
Good question. And both Super Saiyan 3 and 4 are a long way away. Your base isn’t even a million yet.
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Alright everyone I’m off to bed. I’ll be back before we resume to answer your questions before we resume.
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>>2768470
How's that morale doing?
And most importantly, what are the reactions back at the bar, and in general?
Both to the dragon fist, and the red dawn.
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>>2768470
This>>2768661
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>>2768661
>>2768664
>morale
None of the factions are exactly doing great, morale-wise. This battle has become a slog.
>Dragon Fist
New fan favorite. Except to one alien, who bet against the Saiyans.
“So they’re monkeys, shiny monkeys, and now dragons? That is such bullshit!”
>Red Dawn
Awed silence. At first most had thought you’d killed yourself with that blast until a camera from out of the blast’s range could find you.
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>>2768746
Didn't the dumbass that bet against us hit on vamp bait? Shouldn't he be dead still?
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>>2768762
Nah, he was saved by Jotaro before he could become fully drained.

And at any rate, he pretty much dies all the time. This happens a lot in his titular series, Space Dandy. I'd recommend a watch, it's pretty a pretty easy going and non-episodic comedy save for a few serials. It was a blast watching it when it premiered on Toonami.
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>>2768772
Are you assuming I haven't watched the series and know about the species destroying tit monster?
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>>2768762
Nah he was saved by Jotaro before getting drunk completely.
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>>2768791
And that's disappointing, oh well, plenty of time for him to get killed.
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Did our bloodstone just sucked in all of the magic around us, and that's why we lost portal and Aku?
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>>2768746
Is this war creating new parallel quests?

Time patrollers / Trunks /Towas thoughts on the war or is it just history for them?
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>>2768800
No Ivan, now pay attention when reading. It was the covies, not our battery rock. Dumbass.
>>2768810
While an extremely interesting question, why is that a reply to Ivan?
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>>2768813
Did I link to the wrong person?
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>>2768815
You didn't at all.
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>>2768795
Trying to decide what I want to do with him later. Have a few ideas.
>>2768800
Nope, it was the Covenant’s antimagic something.
>>2768810
Perhaps.
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>>2768291
“Karn’s here!” Leyas roars, a cheer going up from the Saiyans gathered below in the arena. But your attention is focused entirely on the Covenant warships above you.

“You’re all dead!!” you shout, forming a sphere of ki in either hand. You slam them into each other over your head, the ki multiplying itself over and over, the power exploding out exponentially. “TAKE THIS!!”

You roar as you toss your Event Horizon straight up into the approaching Covenant forces, the sphere of death slowly ascending towards them. Once you launch the attack you revert back to a regular Super Saiyan, panting from moving that much ki in such a short time. You follow your attack with your ki sense closely, and when your attack is in the right spot you detonate it.

“Everyone get down!” you shout, quickly dropping down to the arena floor as your attack explodes. Your sphere of death explodes, consuming the Covenant overhead. The shocks from the attack slam into all of you, nearly taking you from your feet. The other Saiyans and Oozaru are all floored, easily knocked down by the powerful shockwaves. The light of your attack’s explosion is blinding, you shielding your eyes as well. After a few moments the light fades, you opening your eyes and looking around. The others are starting to get up, you noticing a new group arriving as well.

“That’s it everyone, we made it!” Meloka calls out, carrying an injured Saiyan over each shoulder and leading another four into the arena. They’ve all clearly taken a beating, none of them seem to be in fighting shape. The ones who walked in all drop to the ground, Meloka setting the other two down and making sure they’re alright. Once her people are taken care of she freezes for a moment then looks around confused. She sees you and quickly floats over, embracing you and burying her face in your neck. After a moment you feel something wet, you realizing that she’s crying.

“Meloka?” you ask, feeling her grip tighten around you.
“Dammit I tried so hard.” she thinks to you, her body slightly shaking as she sobs. “I tried my best but I only got six of them out. And now I need to get them out of here but Raven’s not answering. What’s going on? Is this battle really the end for us?”

Well?
>It’s not your fault, you did everything you could for them
>Not while we can still fight!
>I really don’t know anymore
>They can’t keep throwing bodies at us forever
>If it is, we’re not going out without a bang!
>Well Towa hasn’t showed up or sent anyone yet, so I think we’re still okay?
>Other(write in)
30 minute vote
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>>2768864
>>Well Towa hasn’t showed up or sent anyone yet, so I think we’re still okay?
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>>2768864
>>2768864
>>Well Towa hasn’t showed up or sent anyone yet, so I think we’re still okay?
>>You're magnificent Maloka, don't doubt that. Especially now.
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>>2768864
>backing this >>2768876
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>>2768876
Backing
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>>2768864
>>2768876
This, also tell her we sent Cooler to blow up whatever jammer they have
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Rolled 12, 57, 88, 14, 9, 15, 21 = 216 (7d100)

>>2768869
>>2768876
>>2768877
>>2768878
>>2768890
Well Towa hasn’t showed up or sent anyone yet, so I think we’re still okay? and write in win. Writing.
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>>2768862
>New PQ: Karn's Technique Train! Goal: Survive all of karn's most powerful techniques back to back
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>>2768864
“Well Towa hasn’t showed up or sent anyone yet, so I think we’re still okay?” you think back, Meloka pulling back a bit and looking curiously at you. “Think about it. Every time we were in serious danger we couldn’t get ourselves out of, she was right there. Things aren’t hopeless yet.”

Meloka says nothing back, simply burying her face in your neck again. You keep your arms around her, holding your wife close and comforting her.

“You’re magnificent, Meloka.” you say in her ear, just above a whisper. “Don’t you ever doubt that. Especially now. I can’t do this without you.”

You feel her grip on you tighten, Meloka holding onto you for dear life. You remain there for a few dozen seconds, but all too soon its over, reality crashing back in.

“We’ve got incoming!” Leyas’s booming Oozaru voice calls out, the two of you seperating and flaring your golden Super Saiyan auras instantly, ready for battle. Extending your senses you feel the Covenant descending from space again, a good three dozen warships overhead.

What now?
>Rush and attack, smash them all into each other
>Fly up and Death Slash through the ships
>Remain here and Energy Javelin the ships
>Dragon Fist, take them all out yourself
>Couple Final Flash, you and Meloka end them all in one shot
>Let the others handle this, jump in only if someone needs help
>Other(write in)
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>>2768953
>Rush and attack, smash them all into each other
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>>2768953
>Tell a bunch of people the weak point and to tell everyone near them telepathically
>Remain here and Energy Javelin the ships
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>>2768953
>Let the others handle this, jump in only if someone needs help

We're one of the few that can ACTUAL fucking high powered things. We gotta rest abit.
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>>2768953
>>Fly up and Death Slash through the ships
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>>2768953
>>Fly up and Death Slash through the ships
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>>2768953
>Fly up and Death Slash through the ships
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Rolled 92, 75, 63, 92, 11, 51, 52, 55, 96 = 587 (9d100)

>>2768954
>>2768959
>>2768960
>>2768968
>>2768974
>>2768981
Fly up and Death Slash through the ships wins. Roll me a 3d100
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Rolled 26, 27, 74 = 127 (3d100)

>>2768986
do you ever get disappointed when players don't listen to your warnings
i do
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Rolled 13, 78, 22 = 113 (3d100)

>>2768986
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Rolled 96, 79, 34 = 209 (3d100)

>>2768986
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>>2768988
>>2768991
>>2768993
Hey, that's not bad.
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>>2768988
>>2768991
>>2768993
Pretty good to be honest, we have weirdly shit rolls usually when we go over 1d100
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>>2768988
96/100, 79/100, 74/100. Great success, writing.
I’m never disappointed, unless I stop a vote and ask if they’re REALLY SURE
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>>2769005
We love you
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>>2769007
No you don't
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>>2769040
Fuck you I do, do you?
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>>2769049
That's for me to know and you to find out
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>>2769058
Well that is why he asked.
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Apologies for the long wait, long work day today.

>>2768953
“Meloka, let’s go! Everyone else, focus on protecting the wounded!” you shout, then blast up into the sky followed closely by Meloka. You charge your ki into your fingertips as you soar higher and higher into the air, your fingertips glowing with readied ki. You charge straight at the nearest warship, Meloka changing course to intercept another and drawing her Energy Blade. You turn your focus to the enemy before you, and charge.

“RRRAAAAAAAAAA!!!” you roar, firing an X-Slash through the nose of the ship, and slicing it into four seperate pieces. Explosions rock the split pieces of the ship, you flying through them towards your next target. You fly from ship to ship, a single Death Slash cleaving each ship as you charge. You and Meloka both carve your seperate paths of destruction through the sky, destroying warship after warship with ease. In a minute you’ve both reduced the Covenant to a single ship, you each looking to each other. You hold your right palm out, Meloka holding her left to yours. You both quickly charge up your ki, and fire a Couple Energy Wave that obliterates that last ship easily. That problem handled, you both drop back to the arena floor. Once back on solid ground you again focus your awareness, observing the other powerlevels to get a grasp on the situation.

The Tamamraneans are holding their own in space above the Saiyan city, while King Vegeta leads the other Saiyans within the city limits. The Guardian is still under siege as well, you sensing more ships than before surrounding him. You also sense Cooler’s massive ki in space, when suddenly it vanishes. After a few more seconds it reappears, then vanishes again after three-ish seconds. You have no idea what’s going on up there. Closer to you, you can sense the Covenant are landing ground troops in the nearby forest, their forces approaching the arena from two different directions.

What will you do now?
>Keep defending the arena, let everyone know where they’re coming from
>You and Meloka split up, attack the approaching forces before they reach you
>Have Meloka go help the Guardian, stay and defend the arena yourself
>Leave Meloka here on defense, go help the Guardian
>Telepathically tell Vegeta to send help to the Guardian
>Other(write in)
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>>2769168
>Have Meloka go help the Guardian, stay and defend the arena yourself
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>>2769168
>Keep defending the arena, let everyone know where they’re coming from
>Telepathically tell Vegeta to send help to the Guardian
>Send ourself or Meloka over to assist the Guardian as necessary if Vegeta's reinforcements cant handle it themselves.
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>>2769183
Supporting
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>>2769168
>>You and Meloka split up, attack the approaching forces before they reach you
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Rolled 39, 44, 66, 84, 1, 81, 36, 3, 74 = 428 (9d100)

>>2769180
>>2769183
>>2769196
>>2769214
Keep defending, telepathy Vegeta, and backup as-needed wins. Roll me a 2d100.
First DC 70
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Rolled 46, 16 = 62 (2d100)

>>2769220
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Rolled 86, 3 = 89 (2d100)

>>2769220
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Rolled 54, 31 = 85 (2d100)

>>2769220
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Rolled 20, 89 = 109 (2d100)

>>2769220
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>>2769222
That's nice, but fuck our second rolls
>>2769231
WHY?!
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>>2769221
>>2769222
>>2769223
86/100, 31/100. Success then failure, interesting. Writing.
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So we're totally going Golden Oozaru against Arbiter right?
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>>2769342
.............that can be plan B
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QM UPDATE

Sorry for the delay guys. It is going to be at least another hour before I can finish this update, work day’s almost over.
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>>2769342
This time the Karn is fighting for the his entire race, he won't lose.
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>>2769168
“Vegeta, are you there?” you think out, the young Saiyan King answering immediately.
“Karn? What’s wrong?” he replies, ready for the worst.
“It’s the Guardian, he needs backup.” you tell the king telepathically as you and Meloka sit down to take a breather. “Meloka and I’re here at the arena protecting the wounded with Leyas and his people, at least until Cooler can take care of whatever’s shutting down Raven’s portal magic. But the Guardian’s alone, he probably needs help.”
“I’m on it.” Vegeta tells you then cuts the connection. You sense Bardock and Turles both leave the city after a minute or so, headed towards the Guardian’s position as you both rest. You let the others know where the Covenant forces will be coming from next, and with that done the only thing left to do is the waiting. You sit down on the arena floor, cross your legs in the meditative pose, and breathe.

You focus on the meditative breathing the Guardian had taught you: long, deep breaths that fill your lungs to capacity, then exhale and empty your lungs. In and out, in and out, in and out, you empty your mind and focus entirely on your breathing. You lose track of time and even yourself, your focus entirely on your breathing. You feel your strength returning with each breath, your body beginning to recover from the day’s exertions. But you don’t get long, Leyas’s roar snapping you out of your meditative trance. Opening your eyes, you rise to your feet feeling refreshed. You take to the air and look around, seeing the Covenant forces approaching from the predicted routes. You look around, deciding which side to defend first when your instincts warn you that you’re in danger. Looking up, you have only a moment, seeing a red light before everything disappears. Several Covenant warships’ cannons blast the arena from space, you taking one of the blastz directly before you could defend yourself or throw up a barrier.

>Roll me a d100
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Rolled 87 (1d100)

>>2769548
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Rolled 45 (1d100)

>>2769548
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Rolled 71 (1d100)

>>2769548
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>>2769553
>>2769558
>>2769565
87/100. That could have gone much worse, writing.
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>>2769548
While the blast catches you by surprise, it doesn’t mean you can’t defend yourself! With a moment’s focus you grab onto the blast and gather your ki into your palms. With a shout you blast a Dual Energy Wave into the Covenant warship’s blast, pushing it up and off of you. You don’t even try to overpower the attack, just push back enough to keep from being hit. After a few more rough seconds it ends, you ending your attack as well and looking around. The orbital blasts had caught everyone else off-guard as well, downing many of those who were still able to fight. But you sense that something’s wrong. Feeling around with your ki sense, you finally notice what’s wrong. Your jaw clenches shut as you realize most of those that were already injured were killed off by those blasts.

“Dammit!” you snarl through clenched teeth, flaring your Super Saiyan aura back up and taking to the air, high enough to make the biggest target of yourself. You throw caution to the winds, gathering a massive amount of your ki into your palms. With a roar you toss the left hand’s energy at one of the approaching Covenant ground force armies, the sphere exploding into a wide-range Scattershot. You don’t even watch the explosions, turning to the other approaching army and blasting them to hell as well. With the two approaching armies swiftly handled, you turn your attention skyward. You gather your ki into your palms, readying for vengeance against the warships, when suddenly you sense something. Something massive, something powerful. And it’s headed right for you!

“EVERYONE GET DO-!!” you shout, but your warning came far too late. The absolute power you’d sensed above you comes crashing down to New Salda’s surface, smashing through the overhead warships as if they weren’t even there then crashing to the center of the arena. The impact from that insane power kicks up a shockwave stronger than any you’d yet felt, it nearly knocking you from the air. After you reorient yourself, you look down into the now dust-filled arena. You take notice that it didn’t hit any of the Saiyans inside, as if purposefully avoiding them. What could this be?
cont
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>>2769708
Frieza? King Cold? Future chaya?
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>>2769708

oh this is bad
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>>2769708
“Greetings, Saiyans. General Karn.” a regal voice calls out, sending chills up your spine as the smoke continues to thin. The cadence is familiar, but you can’t quite place it. “It seems that your home has a rather unsightly pest infestation.”
”Who’re you?” Leyas call out, you seeing a familiar-looking silhouette. But this power doesn’t match Freeza’s third form at all, and Cooler’s still in orbit as well. Wait. Is this....?
“Forgive me, I forgot to introduce myself in this form.” the voice says as the smoke finally clears and you see the speaker for the first time in years. “I am King Cold, and I myself have come to aid my vassals in their ultimate battle.”

You’re left speechless by his declaration. Sure you knew that King Cold was powerful and could transform as well, but this power you’re feeling now is insane. And with one more form beyond this, there’s no way you can lose! You feel a surge of hope rising up through your chest, you all can really win! You can do this! You float down before the true King, offering your hand to King Cold.

“It is good to see you here, your highness.” you say. King Cold smirks at that, grabbing you by the wrist. You feel him seemingly barely apply pressure, your arm feeling on the verge of snapping. He releases you after a moment, you seeing a look on his face you’ve never seen. He seems... excited?
“I’ve been looking forward to this, Karn.” he says, then flares his dark blue aura up around himself. His aura knocks you flat on your back, your eyes widening in surprise as his power climbs higher and higher. “Once again, the universe shall tremble in terror at the name of King Cold!”

https://youtube.com/watch?v=11wNmWnn4dM

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 52 End-
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>>2769793
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
IT'S HAPPENING
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>>2769793
Just caught up, what's happeni-

>King Cold has gone batshit
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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>>2769793
YOOOOOOOOO I CALLED IT
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>>2769793
And that’s it for episode 52, everyone enjoying the ride? Ready to witness a fighter not seen for hundreds of years? Still wondering about the secret to their antimagic? All this and more, next time! And most importantly, did you have fun?

>>2769816
Yes, it is.
>>2769821
I’d gave hints to this happening in some of the last epilogues, honestly surprised no one figured this reveal out before it happened.
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>>2769842
i bet there's a few anons, myself somewhat included that had an inkling of a hint whats gonna happen
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>>2769793
>tfw only the most well informed of people really know King Cold is the real head of the PTO

>tfw even fewer probably know he's actually monstrously powerful

I hope the covenant have been doing their squats. Because their asses had better be prepared.
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>>2769842

I've always wanted to see a quest where King Cold really gets to throw down. Was hoping that would be SAQ, but I'm glad it's happening here too.

Thanks for running!
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>>2769878

im sorry, but as someone who is part russian, i can saftly say not even Gopnik squatting can save them form the rectal ravaging they are about to recive
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>>2769842
Please do King Cold justice. It felt like Aku was underwhelming in how helpful he was with the space defense, but maybe that's because I don't have the exact numbers of how many ships he fucked up until he got antimagic BTFO'd
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>>2769871
I mean all the signs were there, someone was bound to figure it out. I appreciate no one ruining the reveal for those who hadn’t guessed it. But now the events from the epilogues have caught back up to the main story.
>>2769878
>Because their asses had better be prepared.
No one is ready for King Cold to unleash.
>>2769899
>I've always wanted to see a quest where King Cold really gets to throw down.
Same.
>Was hoping that would be SAQ, but I'm glad it's happening here too.
You and me both anon. You and me both.
>Thanks for running!
Thank you for joining in.
>>2769900
Kek.
>>2769911
>Please do King Cold justice.
I hope I can.
>It felt like Aku was underwhelming in how helpful he was with the space defense, but maybe that's because I don't have the exact numbers of how many ships he fucked up until he got antimagic BTFO'd
He wasn’t exactly defending the planet, he was racking up kills. I’ll have the numbers for this episode out shortly.
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>>2769920

now we need freiza to get sufficently nettled to go gold.
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>>2769925
And then Freeza gets one of the greatest things he's ever wanted in his whole entire life, aside from a friend:
A hug from Dad
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>>2769925
>"King Cold with his power level of 650,000,000 is here, bitches! Prepare to be vaporized, lowly worms!!"
>Frieza descends from the sky.
>Golden Frieza. It's Golden motherfucking Frieza
>With a powerlevel of 250,000,000,000

What's a good word that encapsulates what King Cold and Karn would be feeling at that moment? Prared? Scroud? Proud + Scared
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QM STRATEGY REPORT

Casualties for each faction:
>Covenant
17,832/30,000 remaining warships.
>Tamaraneans
164/302
>Saiyans
5233/6109, most on-world.

And for morale:
>Covenant
High, their spirits are raised as they’re beginning to take over the surface.
>Tamaraneans
High, their efficiency with fighting together boosting their morale.
>Saiyans
Not high but not really low, many are becoming battle-weary. News of the portals being down hasn’t really spread yet, that could crush morale.
>Aku
Low. He’s back home, watching the battle continue. He’s getting a bit angry he couldn’t have more fun rampaging himself.
>Cooler
Low, he’s getting tired. And he’a getting more and more frustrated at the fact that he can’t find whatever’s canceling magic.
>King Cold
Extremely high. He’s ready to unleash his power.
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>>2769967

welp we've nearly wiped out half theri forces, and their moral is still high?
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>>2769972
Covenant has BULLSHIT morale. Super zealots and slaves.
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>>2769925
Won’t happen for quite some time.
>>2769957
Kek.
>>2769965
Yes. Speaking of, edited the powerlevel page. Now to finish the movelist page.
>>2769972
So far, you’ve mostly been fighting the cannon fodder. The real fight begins once their heavy hitters land, once you all are sufficiently exhausted.
>>2769976
This too. Plus they’ve finally begun to land troops on the planet, instead of them all being blasted right out of the air.
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>>2769999
Nice QUADS
Also almost half the Tamaraneans are fucking ded, but they're still doing alright. That's good to hear.
We might need to pull more help if some shit happens to King Cold and we need to stop and recover our energy and planet surface. We got Aku, we got Daughters of Aku, we got Cooler, we got Freeza Act 1. Towa hasn't shown up yet. Future Chaya hasn't shown up yet. Bro-ros hasn't shown up yet. Freeza has yet to show up again. Potentially Aku Act 2 and Daughters of Aku Act 2 haven't shown up yet (antimagic thingy needs to be fucked for them to be able to return to help). Who else do we have?
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>>2768951
An awful mission that would be.
>>2770133
>Also almost half the Tamaraneans are fucking ded, but they're still doing alright.
They’re the Tamaranean equivalent of the Spartans. They’re the elite of the elite, and they live for shit like this.
>We might need to pull more help if some shit happens to King Cold
Do you think they honestly have anything to stop him right now?
>Who else do we have?
Boros is out, as he and Jotaro are currently throwing down. Freeza and Ubo are still on their way, having just sensed the unknown(King Cold’s) massive ki disappear. Who else do you have?
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>>2770190
>They’re the Tamaranean equivalent of the Spartans.
No wonder there's only 300 of them :^)
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>>2769967
>covenant morale
>high

Looks like the grunts don't know they lost almost half their forces just getting on the ground and killing less than a thousand saiyans.
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>>2770326
relegious fevor is one hell of a drug
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>>2770313
:^)
>>2770326
Either they don’t know, or its all going according to plan. Who knows?
>>2770344
That’s the truth.
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>>2770405
you could argue that the covenant's plan to tire out the big fighters is going well, sure.
but it's also true that the saiyan's plan of committing what i like to call a "trillion genocide" is also well underway.
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>>2770411
Both sides have had surprises for each other, and each may still have more. The Covenant weren’t ready to handle someone of Aku’s caliber, the Shapeshifting Master of Darkness and his daughters inflicted massive, massive casualties virtually unopposed. Without their help, you’d still be above 24k warships left to destroy. As for genocide, the Covenant didn’t send their entire military. Just what was deemed sufficient to destroy the Saiyans utterly.
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>>2769920
I knew, with his training, he was going to show up and go off on a mother fucker at some point. I thought it’d be when someone injured one of his sons, but oh boy do I feel fucking GOOD that he’s here on our behalf.
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>>2770483
You said before that they were throwing everything and the kitchen sink at us!
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>>2770521
thats what was deemd sufficent
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I wonder how King Cold would feel if he discovered these magic healing beans on some backwater half-furfag planet to alleviate some of the strain old wounds put on him.
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>>2770521
He lied obviously. They *just* threw the kitchen sink at us.
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>>2770605
Depending on whose kitchen you're in that could be a pretty big sink.
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>>2770483
Do we have any surprises left? I mean King Cold’s here, and we weren’t even expecting him to come. Aku’s gone now, and other then Ubo and Freeza, who’re on the way, all of our heavy hitters are already on-planet. We’ve not got any cards left up our sleeves at this point, unless I’m forgetting something.
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>>2770756
King Ghidorah comes flying through space to kick the shit out of Godzilla. Seeing Karn already dispatched of big Zilla KG immediately decides Karn is good people and starts breathing space fire on the covenant.

Or maybe a rock hits a ship or something. Every little bit counts, right?
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>>2770504
He has good timing.
>>2770521
I was trying to sell the “oh shit its HAPPENING” vibe.
>>2770583
Would try to mass-priduce for profit.
>>2770756
They haven’t fought Ubo, at least not anytime recently. Raven was helping him prepare for this, when she wasn’t working on new spells herself. Also, Raven hasn’t directly engaged the Covenant yet either.
>>2770784
Kek.
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>>2770947
Can you believe Hiroshimoot killed 4chan again just to sell our data to ominous evil shitters somewhere in the world? That bastard
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>>2770973
So is it more than usual or is there something special going on here today?
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>>2770973
If they could just not shut us down when they scrub /x/, /k/, pol/, etc. of all their threads, that’d be great. Funnily enough its been noticed the porn boards weren’t disturbed at all.
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>>2770993
why shutdown /k/?
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>>2770993
Porn is profitable, duh.
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>>2771073
Who knows?
>>2771079
Its just a cohencidence I’m sure.
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>>2770993
>Scrubbing /k/
But why?
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>>2771102
I really don’t know. When posting here didn’t work I surfed the boards, and /pol/, /k/, /r9k/, /x/, I think /g/, and maybe a few others had their whole catalogues simply deleted.
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>>2771112
I just caught up today and i wanted to tell you that I've loved this! Thank you for creating this wonderful story.
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>>2771342
Glad you’ve enjoyed it anon, and I hope you’re able to join in as we go forward.
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QM UPDATE

I just realized I have nothing planned for an epilogue for this week. I’ll still be around to answer you guys questions or just discuss the quest, but I just have nothing for an epilogue yet.
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>>2771910
how differently do you think would the siege have gone if we had a good enough mastery legendary super saiyan transformation tell to friend from foe?
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>>2772150
Oh. Well, barring accidentally obliterating the planet, the Covenant would be down several thousand more warships. But you’d probably be down by now, back to base and recovering.
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>>2772258
I want this to happen. Meloka could probably guide us like a weapon.

M- "Hey big dude! That Covie Bitch called you weak!"

K- "DIEEEEEE!"
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>>2772258
okay cool. would we also have the presence of mind to charge the bloodstone while we were doing it and handing it of to those who needed it afterward? assuming it didn't explode of course
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>>2772264
basically what i was thinking
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>>2772264
I hope next time we go Berserk, someone we know has the bright idea to try this on us and get it to work.
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>>2772264
Potentially. But that would require work, and good rolls. If you pass, however, it could be worth it.
>>2772274
Probably not. And the stone’s limits haven’t been revealed yet.
>>2772336
You’d have to fight through the rage, but if it works it could pay off.
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>>2772388
>
what are peoples reaction's to king cold getting back on the asskicking scene
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>>2772439
>what are peoples reaction's to king cold getting back on the asskicking scene?
A sampling, from the bar and elsewhere:
“Who’s that?”
“King Cold? King of what?”
“Hey, he looks kinda like one of those Hive things.”
“No way, they’re pitch-black you moron.”
“No... It can’t be...”
Dandy: “Who’s this pompus asshole?”

Vox: “Cold? King Cold?! HE’S even getting in on this one?!”
Arctus: “Whaaaathe fucksss he doin’ therrrrr? Hidnnn away mmmy ass!”
Sorbet: “King Cold himself is there?! This is really bad!”
Kars: “Oh? And who are you?”
Aisha: “Nyah? Who’s that?”
Aku: “WHAAAAAAAT?!!”
Emilia: “King Cold? Have you heard of him father?”
Silva: “I’ve heard legends, but that can’t be the same King Cold.”
Whis: “Ohh? Hmmm.”
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>>2772578
>Whis: “Ohh? Hmmm.”
Did SKoT asked him to help our foes?
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>>2772578
>Aku: “WHAAAAAAAT?!!”

even stpifeid and shocked, aku keeps his LARGE HAM on
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>>2772581
He’s just watching events unfold from Beerus’s planet, like usual. Like when he watched Goku transform into a Super Saiyan for the first time and defeat Freeza on Namek. Even for him, its been a long time since he’s seen Cold fight.
>>2772595
Aku’s HAM, Chaya’s CUTE, some things in this universe are simply eternal.
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>>2772611

aku meets samual.l jackson

I need this
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>>2772635
You mean

>Say MASTER OF DARKNESS one more goddamn time. I dare you. I DOUBLE DARE YOU MOTHERFUCKER!

or Mace Windu?
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>>2772668

pulp fiction/snakes on a plane jackson is the only way
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>>2772635
>>2772668
>>2772672
I just had a terrible, stupid thought, and its too bad not to share: Aku voiced by Sam L Jackson.
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>>2772683
>one of Aku's human forms is Sam Jackson

I guess that's what happens when you rate a cartoon R?
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>>2772683

"AKU TIRES OF THESE MOTHERFUCKING FOOLISH SAMURI IN THIS MOTHERFUCKING TIMELINE"
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>>2772683
what are the reactions of people in the time nest to the war so far?
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>>2772710
>heard it in Samuel L. Jackson's voice
>then I heard it in Mako's voice
MY SIDES HAVE BEEN FLUNG FAR INTO THE FUTURE, WHERE MY EVIL IS LAW
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>>2772578
>Dandy: “Who’s this pompous asshole?”
>Arctus: “Whaaaathe fucksss he doin’ therrrrr? Hidnnn away mmmy ass!”
maximum kek ARCTUS RETURN FUCKING WHEN?

>>2772755
GODDAMNIT ME TOO

>>2772683
You better remember this >>2772709 for the future where his evil is law.
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>>2772578
>“No... It can’t be...”
who is that old to remember him?
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>>2772709
Kek.
>>2772710
Long ago in the distant motherfucking past, I, motherfucking Aku, the Shapeshifting Master of motherfucking Darkness, unleashed an unspeakable motherfucking evil!
>>2772730
Good question. The best reactionso far is Trunks’.
Trunks: He’s a monster.
Hyoka: Wouldn’t you have done the same to protect your home?
Trunks: Yeah but that’s different.
Hyoka: Different how?
Trunks: ...
>>2772755
Shit, now I do too.
>>2772916
>spoiler
Not during this fight. He’s outclassed and he knows it. And as far as that joke goes, we’ll see.
>>2773091
>who is that old to remember him?
Other species hanging around can potentially live for a few hundred years, old enough to remember Cold’s last appearance. Or it could be someone who is knowledgeable in the universe’s history, who knows what King Cold has done in the past.
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>>2773298
Trunks is supposed to be smart, how is he being so dumb.
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>>2773301
Not dumb necessarily, He’s just lacking a bit in self-awareness. Took someone showing him you’re doing what he’d do in the same position to realize it.
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>>2773307
Shit, SKoT is probably worried about that, his most useful feature for her is his lack of self-reflection. The help button weighs heavy in his pocket.
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>>2773298
is the whole time nest watching the war on the big monitors?
i always love everyone's reactions more than i do actually playing a character, it's my favourite part of any quest, and i'm glad you take time to write them out like my old favourite QMs used to
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>>2773346
would be neat if any significant events in various timelines were played in real time over the monitors for everyone to see.
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>>2773308
This. He may no longer be as tempted to use it, but he’s not willing to reveal its existence.
>>2773346
No, most in the Time Patrol aren’t aware of this timeline. Trunks and Hyoka are watching over the scroll alone, the others busy with various other things.
>spoiler
Same. Which is why I write them down when I can.
>>2773348
Generally the only events shown are what other Time Patrollers are doing on missions. Such as Ace vs Beerus.
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>>2773354
So what do karn's allies think of his super-attacks so far?
That shit had to be easily visible from space, and from the half of the planet he performed them on.
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>>2773398
Oh, and why didn't i think of it before?
what the the covenant higher-ups and some of their better soldiers think of karn's super moves?
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>>2773398
I think I have a pretty good guess
>Meloka: "...wasn't I supposed to better at energy attacks then him?"
>Nappa: "YOU'LL NEVER TOP THE GIANT STORM IF YOU DON'T HAVE A KICKASS POSE KAAAARRNN!"
>Vegeta: "I'm totally stealing that Red-Dawn thing."
>Bardock: "Fucking ascended form, damn Event Horizons...YOU STILL DON'T HAVE THE REBELLION SPEAR!"
>Turles: "Man I'm glad I'm retiring rich after this nonsense."
>The entire Ginyu Force: "Effective, but not stylish at all."
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we still need to turn thee Death Beam into a red Specail Beam Cannon
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>>2773636
wait what color are our death beams even?
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>>2773639
I tend to think karn's attacks are all mostly golden in colour, like regular ki blasts.
But special attacks tend to be the colour you'd expect, like purple for death beam.

I mean, if karn learned the kamehameha, it wouldn't be red for some reason, right?
a blood-red final flash is awesome to imagine, though
maybe we could make a super final flash next
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>>2773651
Oh, and imagine if all he attacks DID turn red when he goes primal.
Unf.

>super final flash is already red
>go primal
>super final flash now has a black inner aura, just like blue+kaioken is red and blue
mfw
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>>2773665
>black and red auras
Ooh it's feeling mid-2000's Deviantart as fuck in here
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>>2773678
Gotta admit though, black and red go well together, and karn is a berserker who occasionally taps demonic energies.
Aesthetically it all fits, even if it's edgy as fuck.
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>>2773680
Plus, look at that shit. https://youtu.be/SxlaQKLcQFs?t=91
A different inner-aura colour is amazing-looking.

Imagine the final flash with that red and black colour palette, rather than gold and white.
https://youtu.be/NAEdlKGTjQY?t=166
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>>2773398
>So what do karn's allies think of his super-attacks so far?
They’re impressed, and many are jealous.
>That shit had to be easily visible from space, and from the half of the planet he performed them on.
Some of them have been. Plenty of grunts and lesser Covenant soldiers would have deserted, were it not for the more immediate threat of their superior officers behind them pushing them forward.
>>2773622
“...We’re gonna need a bigger ship.”
>>2773629
>Meloka
“Where’s he been saving all this power?”
>Nappa’s thoughts
Dammit. I’ve tried to catch up, but he keeps pulling further and further away!
>Vegeta
Don’t burn yourself out now Karn, we need you to keep fighting!
>Bardock
How much power does he have?
>Turles
“Nice.”
>Ginyu Force
You’re right. After the shock and awe dies down.
>>2773636
Interesting. You can fire the Scatter Beam with 5 fingers, perhaps there’s more there to upgrade.
>>2773639
Special moves, like Death Beam are their usual colors.
>>2773651
>I tend to think karn's attacks are all mostly golden in colour, like regular ki blasts.
Most of your attacks turn golden when you’re a Super Saiyan, such as your Energy Blade, Death Slash, etc. As for base form, for now Karn has whichever color you like, I haven’t decided on a ‘canon’ yet.
A red Final Flash would look pretty cool.
>>2773665
A red/black aura’d attack probably won’t happen unless you’re in your demonic powerup.
>>2773678
Very this.
>>2773694
>A different inner-aura colour is amazing-looking.
Not wrong though. Kaioken Blue, ignoring whatever you thought of Super itself, looked cool as hell.
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>>2773716
I thought super was fun, but not serious at all, even though the stakes were plenty high and all. It felt more like dragonball than Z.
There were a lot of nice nods to the long time fans as well, like master roshi's speech during his final kamehameha.

It wasn't an adventure like dragonball, it wasn't serious and gritty like Z, but it was fun it it's own way, and definitely made just for the fans.
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>>2773716
>”Nice.”

Turles is a gift.
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>>2773726
Man at no point were the stakes in Super high. Either Beerus and Whis were there voiding the threat, like with Frieza, it was all just fucking about with shut that didn’t actually matter (would anyone fucking care if Earth was swapped to Universe 6, or whatever the threat there was), or a problem for a completely different timeline with Black and Zamasu. The ToP was the only time there were stakes, but we all knew whoever won was 99.9999% likely to wish back the other Universes.
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>>2773726
It was a very mixed bag. Had some highs (Episode 131’s fight, Hit vs Jiren, Vegeta’s rematch with Black, Golden Freeza vs the assassins, the U6 tournament) and some very low lows (looking especially at you, episodes 5&24, and the Black arc “rocks fall villain dies” ending). It did really nice slice of life stuff for some of the characters, which I personally appreciated.
>>2773750
I really wished I’d used him more, forced him to have a bit more screentime instead of putting all character interactions up to anons choice. It’s only been a year, and only now am I somewhat getting good. But just because he’s planning on retiring after this battle doesn’t mean I’m abandoning him. After all, he has a plan. And Komand’r may be a part of that.
>>2773756
I’m still bothered we never actually learned what Jiren’s wish was. But it did have really great shots, like when Freeza turns gold against the assassins, and pic related.
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>>2773784
At least it wasn't "rocks fall, MC dies"
lookin' at you, SOM
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>>2773784
And Komand’r may be a part of that.

Karn: Nice bro.
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actaully heres something we should try at asome point. tap into that bottemless well of energy Beserk provides, without catually going Besekr
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>>2773789
To be fair, Som get’s a LOT of hate. I’m not gonna say whether or not its deserved, but that kinda hostile environment really burns someone out quick.
>>2773795
There are certain ‘perks’ to being an ambassador.
>>2773801
You could try? But there’s several complications that could arise from attempting it, I wouldn’t exactly suggest it.
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>>2773811
as one of his previous players, yes, he does deserve it
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>>2773811
On a scale of "No." to ":^)", is Turles gonna fuck Blackfire? They're both dark, edgy, and smug aren't they?
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>>2773815
As a QM myself, as well as one of his players I can’t say.
>>2773818
>is Turles gonna fuck Blackfire?
You should be asking: HAS Turles fucked Blackfire?
:^)
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>>2773829
Nice bro
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>>2773829
If he just did the shit he's done one or twice, i wouldn't say he deserves the shit he gets, but he's been doing it ever since he started and he's never learned no matter how much he was outright told.
His history of bullshit goes back father than /qst/ and not all of it is on the /tg/ archive either.
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>>2773833
He’s got his future lined up, if he gets out of this one.
>>2773837
At this point, everyone should know exactly what you’re getting into with a Som quest. Complaining at this point is like complaining you’re getting wet when you’re standing in the rain.
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>>2773908
I don't follow som's quests anymore, but he's no less shit because i'm not interacting with him.
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>>2773917
>som
>shit
>please aplogoize to the shit for comparing it to SOM
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>>2773917
>>2773929
Okay guys, that’s probably enough. He’s not here to defend himself.
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QM QUESTION

I still have no idea for an epilogue this time. So I’ll ask you all, anyone have ideas for an epilogue this week? A character’s POV you wanna see, something from earlier, anything?
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>>2774131
Ah... Not really?
Maybe take a break?
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>>2774131
Future chaya watching the view screens!
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>>2773993
I mean people still rag on Hitler, so.
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>>2774146
I want to write something else, but I don’t know what.
>>2774180
>Future chaya watching the view screens!
Maybe... But she’s not watching the fight right yet. Towa’s watching it, Chaya’s busy training with Mira.
>>2774197
But he’s also dead, and Som’s still around. And the people Som killed were all imaginary to my knowledge
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>>2774312
>But he’s also dead

Oh yes, very dead. Quite dead. Exceptionally dead.
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>>2774312
I wanted to see chaya being CUTE qm!
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>>2774334

>inb4 consperiacy theroys
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>>2774334
He’d be 129 this year, its safe to assume he’s dead.
>>2774356
Chaya’s training for a fight she’s got coming up, and she’s really looking forward to fighting one of the strongest Saiyans in history, one who’s reached the same level she has.
>>2774359
He says, posting well-known Alex Jones quotes.
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>>2774368
>He’d be 129 this year, its safe to assume he’s dead.

>forgetting Gilgamesh ruled for over 120 years according to records

That'd make ol' Gil well over 120 by the time of his death.

Checkm80

I cracked the code. The Enigma Code. OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE
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>>2774368
>He’d be 129 this year, its safe to assume he’s dead.
>Implying Hitler isn't alive and well shitposting on /pol/ as we speak
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>>2774368
>she’s really looking forward to fighting one of the strongest Saiyans in history
>one who’s reached the same level she has
So it's Ace right?
Please tell me it's Ace.
I couldn't stand seeing her lose to Kakkarot.
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>>2774402
>shitposting
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>>2774391
And Moses was well over 200 when he started building the Ark.
>>2774402
Kek.
>>2774409
Ace hasn’t gone down that route, and probably won’t now. Not since he’s been training as well...
>spoiler
You think that fight’s already decided?
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>>2774441
>Ace hasn’t gone down that route, and probably won’t now. Not since he’s been training as well...
So Ace stuck to the God Route then?
Does that mean Chaya has been stuck with Primal?
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>>2774451
Chayas is route locked until towa can assemble enough sayans for a god ritual.

Shes towa, im sure she can figure it out. Watch it be just multiple karns/Melokas.
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>>2774441
What would everyone's reactions be if we died during this war?
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>>2774503
Jesus anon.
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>>2774503
Shit, on second thought. Watching us / Feeling us die might be enough to trigger the legendary transformation in meloka.
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>>2774451
With the influence of the gods around him, he’s been convinced that the path he’s on is superior. Now whether it is or not is another story.
As for Future Chaya, as >>2774471 points out, she needs help to reach that path and cannot achieve it on her own. And unlike Ace and the Time Patrol, Future Chaya doesn’t just have Beerus and Whis just hanging around to learn from.
>>2774503
Oh boy. Actually you ca... Nah, ignore that. Forget I said anything.
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>>2774534

Hey GD, does someone really specifically need Ki to wreck faces in this universe? Or is it entirely possible that there are powerful individuals who only have an inkling of what Ki is yet can utilize other things to become powerful?

This is excluding beings of pure magic/darkness such as Aku.
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>>2774503
Morale would probably plummet horribly, but hey all of karns firends would definitly turn super saiyan and we there might even be a golden Frieza too.
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>>2774534
>With the influence of the gods around him, he’s been convinced that the path he’s on is superior. Now whether it is or not is another story.


>relying on the powers of a pansy cat and the blue man group's ilk to git gud

>instead of playing with your inner monkey as a true saiyan should

What a fucking disappointment, that Ace.
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>>2774594

To be fair, it seems to work very well for a certain pair of Saiyans who also exclusively train under a cat and a blue guy.
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>>2774534
Now that would be a good omake.

Karn's allies have been trapped in a gravity bubble after coming to help him defeat the arbiter, and now he's on his own.
Karn sacrifices his life to defeat the arbiter and flies up into space with a covenant bomb set to obliterate the planet, taking thousands of covenant ships with him in the blast.
But 10,000 covenant ships remain in orbit. How do his friends respond to his death?
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>>2774604
Honestly, i'd prefer if karn went the pure mortal route, just stuck to primal and that hard base grind, then whoops some godly ass with stupid amounts of mortal ki.

Could also be neat if godly ki just started leaking out on it's own while in primal once he gets strong enough.
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>>2774544
>Hey GD, does someone really specifically need Ki to wreck faces in this universe? Or is it entirely possible that there are powerful individuals who only have an inkling of what Ki is yet can utilize other things to become powerful?
Ki flows throughout all living things. Doesn’t mean they know what it is, or how to utilize it. Like the Arbiter, who only knows that he can explode with a mighty force when he feels cornered. Or say Boros who knows nothing about ki.
>>2774564
Morale would plummet. And if the Saiyans won regardless, Meloka, Freeza, and Chaya would never really recover.
>>2774594
When next to those two, and you can finally feel their levels of power(especially when they blow your previous concept of strength out of the water), its hard not to want that kinda power for yourself.
>>2774604
To an extent.
>>2774618
Jeez anon. In that scenario, your death would rally the survivors. But Meloka would never recover, it would crush her.
>>2774625
I’ll say this, Primal Saiyan isn’t the end of that path.
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>>2774650

>I’ll say this, Primal Saiyan isn’t the end of that path.

{goes even further byond then going even further byond even further byond}
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>>2774650
Primal God confirmed
I am fully erect
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>>2774650
>I’ll say this, Primal Saiyan isn’t the end of that path.
We Dragonball AF now
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>>2774659
There is at least one, maybe two more forms(for now) that that path could have. One of which everyone who watched GT should remember exists. Its is something special, after all.
>>2774681
Not quite. Haven’t actually read that yet.
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>>2774686

so your going by the headcannon that gogeta was actaully super sayin five, since the result of base goku and base vegeta resulted in a gogeta already in super sayin 1?
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>>2774659
>super saiyan is only one half of the saiyan evolutionary chain
>those who abandoned their ape form entirely like goku and vegeta never acquire primal, the complete saiyan evolutionary form
>SSJ3 is just a warped form created by forcing the body to tap into a portion of primal's raw power without actually being able to properly transform your body up into it, and it's incredible energy drain shows that it's not just incomplete, but inherently imperfect
>Super Saiyan God is also an incomplete form, achieved when one has mastered the regular ascended saiyan form, but is missing the oozaroo aspect and can't transform up to the primal state.
>That's also why instead of being achieved on one's own, it takes a boost from many other saiyans to bump you up into that state, just like karn temporarily boosting chaya up into a super saiyan
>When one's raw power exceeds a certain threshold while in the primal state, godly ki begins to naturally leak from your body, and if harnessed, it's possible to transform even further up into the primal god state, turning one's hair red and converting the entirety of their mortal ki into godly ki
>this is the true form of a super saiyan god

this is now my headcanon
but what to do about blue?
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>>2774720
Say fuck it and turn into primal demon god for raw red and black ki.
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>>2774720
Further control of the User's Ki, manipulating the balance between Primal, Mortal Ki, and Godly, Divine Ki, allows the User to reach a level even further? I mean, Super Saiyan Blue already is just the combination of regular SSJ Ki + God Ki, so it'd make sense.
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>>2774701
All I’m saying for now, is that Goku and Vegeta’s hair were both black in 4. And Gogeta was something else entirely. As for the Janemba movie, he could have simply transformed into a Super Saiyan as soon as he existed, while the seizure lights were still flashing and he was off-screen.
>>2774720
That’s some nice headcannon.
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>>2774720
Following this headcanon what is legendary?
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>>2774756
It's green because it's legendary.
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>>2774739
I mean, it kinda fits, right?
Think about it.

>super saiyan 3 is really fucking hard to transform into
>hair grows out like super saiyan 4
>face loses hair and bone structure changes, eye sockets become prominent like an ape
That's his body trying to fit a round peg (super saiyan 4's power) into a square hole (his normal saiyan body)
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>>2774783
watch this shit again and tell me that's not what you see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYajubNA9RI

SSJ3 was a form created out of pure desperation.
Maybe if goku had kept his tail, he could have gone SSJ4, but his body was disfigured and he never got the chance, so he was weaker than he could have been when buu came around, and that only continues up to this day.
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>>2774783
I’m Not saying I disagree with you, at least about Super Saiyan 3. Had the same, albeit less thought-out, ideas when I was in school and a friend showed me GT existed.
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>>2774795
Not quite desperation, as King Kai clearly knew it was something he was working on. But it does validate the “Ascended Super Saiyan” I’ve gone with instead of numbers a bit more.
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>>2774783
I don’t hate the idea. I figure that the two paths not exclusive, though. I don’t see any reason a Primal Super Saiyan can’t be the target of the Super Saiyan God ritual. I think instead of parallel, exclusive lines, the Divine side of things is like an upgrade to what you already have. Vegeta and Goku have normal, Super Saiyan, and Super Saiyan 2, and as such we are Super Saiyan God, Super Saiyan Blue, and Beyond Super Saiyan Blue (I THINK that’s the name?). If one of them had had Primal Super Saiyan, we could theoretically see Divine Primal Saiyan, which may be the red haired form GD is alluding to PSS Gogeta having.
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>>2774795
That's exactly what it looks like. Also 5 min transformation, Jesus christ.
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>>2774818
Sure, if you yourself were already pretty strong and had enough super saiyans who were also powerful enough, i don't see why you couldn't bump yourself up to primal god early, just like with what i'll now be calling the "false saiyan god" state
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>>2774818
Though I will note that applying the Divine power to each higher form seems to be exponentially harder. Vegeta was only able to apply Divinity to Ascended Super Saiyan to create Beyond Super Saiyan Blue when pushed farther than was ever possible before by Jiren. Goku would have needed something truly, truly impossible to apply it to SS3.
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>>2774832

>goku
>impossilbe

pick one
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>>2774829
>>2774818
Sorry, that's not even remotely what you were saying.
Right, time to sleep for me.
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>>2774848
Before that though, fuck.
Just imagine Primal Karn.

Just think about what karn is like now, a saiyan with a base powerlevel of under a million.
Imagine what primal fucking karn would be like.
Goddamn terrifying.

One must never invoke the wrath of that vengeful god.
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>>2774783
Wow that legit makes sense.
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I wonder how much of a zenkai boost we're gonna get out of this whole thing?
Breaking the 1-mil barrier into big-boy territory is imminent.
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>>2774893
What is the modifier on Super Saiyan 4 anyways? 200x?

>>2774952
Probably going to have the potential to get a big Zenkai boost, but roll low on it, as usual.
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>>2775131
Pretty sure SSJ3 is 400x base so if you want to go by the numerical route of each level being twice as strong as the previous SSJ4 would be 800x base.

Course GT wasn't canon, and the numbers weren't as concrete, and this isn't canon, and there is much more thought put into the numbers here than in any official DB stuff.
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>>2775212
Actually wasn't SSJ2 100x base? That'd mean exponential stuff. So if SSJ2 is twice as strong as SSJ and SSJ3 is four times as strong as SSJ2 then SSJ4 would be something like sixteen times as strong as SSJ2 right, or rather four times as strong as SSJ3? So a 1,600x base.

Unless of course you base your math only on the previous form sequentially in which case SSJ2 = 2x SSJ. SSJ3 = 4x SSJ2. So SSJ4 would = something like either 8x SSJ3 or 16x SSJ3 depending on how you want to multiplicative growth. Which would turn out to be a 3,200x base or a 6,400x base boost which is just nuts.

In either case going by fudgy canon math you get some abomination of numbers for people who don't into math good, like me.
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>>2775290
I just assumed that SSJ3 was double whatever SSJ2 was, so probably like 200x Base.
That said, I think Golden Oozaru and SSJ4 had the same multiplier, in this case 500x base.
I base that off of SSJ (x50) being stacked on Oozaru (x10).
I think the only real differences between either form was their respective sizes and limitations on cognitive functions.
Also interesting to note, if we go by the whole doubling of successive SSJ forms previously, it would be safe to assume whatever Gogeta's red haired SSJ4+ form was comes out to 1,000x base.
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>>2774893
>Spoiler
Oh hello Trunks.
>>2775212
>>2775290
I’ll say that its math will be slightly insane. Golden Oozaru will be 500x base.
>>2775627
All math past the Freeza saga gets a little insane.
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>>2774131
Just introduce more characters bro. The covenant's invading New Salda but some people just don't care - write an epilogue about one of them that you might use in the future.

Or more Kars
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>>2776050
That’s my dilemma. There’s characters I want to introduce in the story, but I also don’t want to spoil them before they appear. Or at least, too soon before they appear like I may have with Kars.
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>>2776092
Thoughts on pic related?
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>>2776251
That’s some classic top-tier /fit/ autism.
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>>2776251
Shit this applies to Gohan as well.
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Do these sparkles look familiar to anyone else?
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>>2776763

super sayin god, right?
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>>2776763
Looking forward to Primal God Karn
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>>2776765
>>2776784
That, Gogeta’s “Super Saiyan 4”, and another form all have those sparkles. But what does it all mean?
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>>2776824
Correction, missed this form as well.
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>>2776824
>>2776832
>But what does it all mean?
If what >>2774720 said is true, then maybe it's godly ki particles visibly manifesting?
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>>2776834
The question is, why does Super Saiyan Blue NOT have them?
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>>2776841

super sayin blue has perfect effeiceny, all the godly ki that sparkles off is waste energy
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>>2776841
>why does Super Saiyan Blue NOT have them?
Because sparkles cost money and nearly everything with Blue in it is made cheap as shit.
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I'm fucking confused man
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>>2776841
I'm seriously unfamiliar with most shit in Dragonball so my knowledge is limited. The forms that have the sparkles (Beerus >>2776763, Gogeta "SS4", Goku White? >>2776824, Vegeta Beyond Blue? >>2776832, and Goku Super Saiyan God >>2776841)
It definitely has to do with whatever godly ki is and how it works.

>>2776848
>>2776853
If >>2776832 is Beyond Blue, then why are the sparkles back again from Super Saiyan God? If the headcanon in >>2774720 is anywhere close to true, and what you say about energy efficiency is ALSO true, that would mean Saiyan God is an incomplete state - of which Super Saiyan Blue is a stable state - then Beyond Blue is also another incomplete state.

The weirdest shit about this would mean Beerus' state, despite being a God of Destruction, is in and of itself INCOMPLETE. I have no clue if this all works together or not, but Gogeta "SS4" and whatever that Goku White? is supposed to be are also incomplete?

>>2776859
Me too
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>>2776848
Potentially.
>>2776853
Kek.
>>2776859
How did we get from Dragonball to this?
>>2776860
Here’s a gif of the “Mastered” Ultra Instinct form. As for Beyond Blue, I see it as the Blue version of Vegeta’s incomplete Ascension form he used against Perfect Cell.
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>>2776763
There were sparkles like that when vegeta blew himself up, too
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>>2776881
I think we're gonna need a chart like >>2776859 to solve this shit out, goddamn.
Also that "Mastered" Ultra Instinct doesn't look like the sparkles. It looks like a haze of raw energy alongside something like tiny ball-lightning-style energy coming out of Goku. I think that looks more like a complete form than an incomplete form.
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I think it's pretty obvious what the sparkles are. It indicates when the creators and animators have snorted powdered unicorn horn to come up with their "great" and "original" and "not-deviantart" designs and ideas.

Actually SSJ4 Gogeta is pretty good. Even if most of his attacks look like an LSD trip.
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>>2776889
True. I’d forgotten about that.
>>2776890
Possibly. I’ll work on something like that soon. Also, better image of MUI’s sparkles, as well as Jiren’s.
>>2776894
Kek.
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>>2776897
That being the case, maybe it just happens whenever someone leaks enough energy from their aura.
Look at vegeta's aura when he's about to detonate, it's going fucking crazy.

Maybe god forms and SSJ4 also put off sparks like that because the energy density of their aura is high enough, but blue doesn't since the whole point is suppressing the aura and controlling one's energy perfectly.

Vegeta was able to generate sparks like that despite only being SSJ2 because 1. He was incredibly strong and 2. He was literally shunting the entirety of his aura outwards at once.
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>>2776912
It has to do with ENERGY and it also has to do with STABILITY. Happens rarely enough outside of a set few forms though - there's gotta be something there...
I feel like we're nearing a conclusion or a realization right now, but we're lacking something. A piece of info, proof of a certain scene, something that would help us to get this locked down...

Maybe GDQM can reach it? He certainly knows a hell of a lot more than I do about this shit.
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>>2776912
Yet when he re-did that attack in Super, there weren’t any sparkles and he survived it.
>>2776917
>Maybe GDQM can reach it? He certainly knows a hell of a lot more than I do about this shit.
I enjoy showing you all lines of thought, to see where you all end up. Another one to think on: where does pic related end up?
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>>2774720
Also, here's a side by side so you can see what i'm talking about.
There's no way 3 isn't a failed 4 transformation, look at that. they both have the bone structure changes around the eyebrows.

>>2776942
Didn't he do it while using blue, though?
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>>2776942
>that pic
Toeishit isn't canon reeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>2776954
Of course golden SSJ4+ isn't canon.
That said, Toei's stuff is soft canon.
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>>2776942
Going by the logic so far, though...
I guess, it just looks like he successfully transformed his body into a shape similar to SSJ4 without actually tapping whatever the "primal" part of him is, just judging from the lack of prominent eyebones.
Which i guess is why his body fur isn't red either. Similar shape, but still lacking that primal "something" due to missing his tail.

It's like putting a man in the body of an ape. Would make for a stronger warrior in theory, right?
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>>2776974
I guess you could call that SSJ3 Grade 2?
An improved version of SSJ3, closer to what it's supposed to be, and more functional.

Only question is "why"
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What's the in-quest name for SSJ3 anyhow?
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>>2776992
SSJ3.
Only SSJ4's name was changed to primal, just because it sounds cool.

Everything else, as far as i'm aware, is the same.
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A basic framework to build off of. This guide isn’t set in stone, just something I sketched while laying in bed after a 12-hour workday.

>>2776947
He was in the Beyond Blue form.
>>2776954
>>2776958
>canon
>Boros
>JoJo
>Yautja
>Space Dandy
>Covenant
>canon
We have Super Saiyans fighting the Covenant while Goku is 5 years old. Canon is more of a framework at this point.
>>2776974
It was supposed to be Super Saiyan God, before Toriyama changed it to the red, slimmed down form we all know.
>>2776975
>Only question is "why"
At this point, the more appropriate question is why not?
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>>2777002
Wew lad.
Did you get tired of physically writing "super saiyan" at any point?
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>>2777002
You know, the berserk form has a tendency to explode due to being unable to handle the energy it generates despite transforming the body, perhaps to be able to generate it in the first place, but if Primal alters the body to be able to handle massive amounts of energy without actually generating it endlessly, wouldn't it be great if perhaps there was a halfway point?

A way to go semi-berserk in the primal state, losing some of the form's ability to handle massive quantities of energy, but gaining the ability to generate energy endlessly, albeit less than the pure berserk state?
Would be perfect for marathon situations like this.
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>>2777023
Also, given that GD's canon is that Primal physically transforms the body to be able to handle huge amounts of power, doesn't it seem like kind of a "primer" state, meant simply to allow one's body to properly accept and ease into all the power of a god form, and all the ki that comes with it?
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>>2777008
Nope. Although writing the word ‘Energy’ over and over again when I was writing out movelist trees way back in the early threads was rough. Energy is just such an odd word when writing.
>>2777023
Primal Berserk, you say? It doesn’t work quite like that, since Primal also alters one’s mental state.
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>>2777032
>that pic
It's rapin' time.

So then, i guess first you'd have to master the berserk state, and transform up into primal from there? Or from berserk oozaroo?
Does that mean you'd get the full effect of both forms?
Or am i getting the wrong idea here?
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>>2777036
oh shit, i've never into heroes, but i did a little looking after you said that, and from what i see here, it looks like broly goes from berserk SSJ3 to berserk oozaroo (for an instant) and then straight up to berserk SSJ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6mGcnQDSgM
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>>2777002
Does this work as a condensed version of the chart?
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>>2777002
>>2777023
>>2777031
>>2777032
>>2777036
>>2777051
>>2777070
You forgot to draw an arrow from Super Saiyan 3 to Primal Saiyan, due to the ape characteristics and >>2774795 >>2774783

Unless...
UNLESS...!

Super Saiyan 3, an unstable form that requires increasing amounts of energy until rapid depletion:
A "Famine" state.

Berserk Super Saiyan, an unstable form that outputs ridiculous amounts of energy until the user's body can barely survive:
A "Feast" state.

What if the two can be assumed simultaneously?

What if the Berserk energy output can perfectly balance the SS3 energy input?
What if the ultimate endlessness is right at our very fingertips, at the very fringes of our minds, if only we can sustain it until such a point...?
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>>2777070
Far as I can tell. I’m at somewhere around 18 hours awake now, I may have missed something obvious.
>>2777051
Heroes is blatant fanservice(not that kind), and it kinda works.
>>2777036
Who knows? Broly only got it from an evil demon dragon?
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>>2777089
Just being forced into that state by someone else doesn't mean much, i mean, look at super saiyan god after all.
It just means that achieving that state is possible, so long as the correct set of requirements are met.
Not to say that something so ridiculous would be easy, or even reasonable, but at least we know it's physically possible.

And that shit... if it's got all the abilities and power of both forms, is what i'd call a jackpot.
Assuming you could remain sane enough to use it on the enemy as opposed to obliterating the universe.
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>>2777088
Better?
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>>2777101
I'm a dumb idiot who can't read
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>>2777088
>You forgot to draw an arrow from Super Saiyan 3 to Primal Saiyan, due to the ape characteristics and
Not quite. 3 is TRYING to be 4, but cannot achieve that state.
>spoiler
You’d probably explode. You’d have to nearly master Berserk, as well as extensively train in 3 as well. But even then, 3’d drain the surples Berserk would make, resulting in a balanced Super Saiyan 3. If you could control your mind, and the two forces fighting in your body and pulling you apart. Not saying it can’t be done, just that its very difficult.
>>2777096
Exactly. Plus everything DBHeroes should be taken with a few grains of salt. Like that EXTREMELY disappointing 4 vs Blue fight we got.
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>>2777117
Well, i'm glad that most of the pieces of the puzzle seem to be able to slot together somehow or another.
I guess toriyama had some general idea of how shit was supposed to work when he was designing transformations.
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>>2777117
Hey, you know how you said karn is a strength-type due to his insane gravity training, just like burter is a speed-type?
Well, meloka's been right there beside him the entire time.

So, i was thinking it'd be funny as fuck if there was an omake where someone challenged her in a battle of strength, thinking they'd win because her body is small, and she's technically an energy attack user.
And then they realize that, despite her looks and moveset, she's made of fucking steel.

Like, it's some massive musclebound nappa-sized saiyan, and he wraps his whole fist around her hand and forearm to armwrestle, and then he just can't move her.
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>>2777117
>Not saying it can’t be done, just that its very difficult.

Simple, you Potarra fuse someone in SSJ3 with someone who is in Berserk. The resulting character would never stop screaming.
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>>2777117
And of course, people attempting the karn style of training would always be a welcome omake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQQc-TcQSCo
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Hey, i just had a thought...
If karn is training in gravity higher than post-cell vegeta, why isn't his powerlevel exploding?

Goku got strong enough to beat full power frieza as a mere super saiyan after training in a measly 100x earth's gravity for a couple months, so whats going on with karn?
Are we ignoring our energy training too much?

If that were the case, i would think that meloka's powerlevel would be higher than our own at this point, and we constantly use energy attacks both in training and actual battle...
So why isn't our powerlevel going up like it should, when almost every waking moment is nothing but a hellish exercise meant to destroy our own bodies and rebuild them?
What are we missing?

It's not like we haven't been zenkai'd enough times, so just what is it?
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>>2777123
Well Toriyama didn't do Primal but you have to give props to the guy who managed to make it plausible. I assume he did made it after watching the SSJ3 transformation on repeat.
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>>2777198
The plot hasn't demanded gains of that level just yet
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>>2777198
Eh, the gravity training didn't really make him strong enough to beat Freeza, after the gravity training his power level was only a couple hundred thousand. It was the bullshit Zenkai boost he got after getting the crap kicked out of him during the incident with Captain Ginyu that somehow catapulted him from a power level of a couple hundred thousand all the way up to three million that allowed him to beat up Freeza when he went Super Saiyan.
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>>2777202
shhhh, this is an excuse to come up with even more extreme training
Maybe karn's just a slow grower! Clearly we need more intense training, so i suggest this: https://youtu.be/TrX3soTFsS4?t=69
Maybe we can get help from the guardian and raven, some kind of spell or technique with a similar effect.
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>>2777123
His general thoughts are easy to follow, once you’ve seen into his mind. Like how Super Saiyan was actually designed as a time saving technique for Toriyama.
>>2777156
True. And I’ve thought of it for the upcoming arc, but it wouldn’t be a Saiyan challenging her. They know better.
>>2777170
Kek.
>>2777173
Was always a great scene. He definitely wasn’t ready, going from Earth to 10x Earth(King Kai’s) to 300x Earth.
>>2777198
Honestly? I’m trying to keep the Zenkai boosts reasonable, and not like the infamous 180k to 3million jump Goku got from Ginyu.
>>2777201
Possibly. Or the original Goku v Vegeta fight in its entirety.
>>2777210
Also this.
>>2777215
Now THERE’S an idea.
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>>2777246
Could we not just have a certain telepath increase the Gravity around Karn at all times in the near future?
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>>2777215
That was an enjoyable series.
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>>2777253
Wouldn't he have to hang around us, like, 24/7 to achieve that effect? Also he works for Boros, who hates us.
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>>2777259
I feel like we're gonna on great terms with Boros in the near future.
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>>2777253
At the levels your body has adjusted to? No way.
>>2777254
Indeed.
>>2777259
He’d have to be within eyesight of you.
>>2777261
Possibly. He hasn’t forgotten the work you did for him, and he doesn’t have many allies anywhere close to his level.
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>>2777259
IIRC Boros doesn't hate Karn, he thinks he's kind of interesting and other than that not much else.
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>>2777272
>Indeed.
Are you hype for the Yu Yu Hakusho OVA coming out this year?
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>>2777284
Wasn't he pissed because we pretended to be mercenaries when he hired us to assist him, when we were in fact members of the PTO, which he considers to be a rival empire?
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>>2777287
There's a what now?
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>>2777287
>There's a Yu Yu Hakusho OVA coming out this year.
Well, my day just got a lot brighter.
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>>2777284
He’s still a little irked by you hiding your true loyalties from him, but he completely understands why you did it.
>>2777287
Wait what? What is this and why has no one else told me yet?
>>2777290
He was pissed, years ago when the ‘betrayal’ was fresh. Looking back, he realized that it was a smart move on your behalf.
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>>2777298
Kept you waiting, huh?
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>>2777302
Cripes, I can't believe it's the 25th anniversary already. Hard to imagine that it's that old now.
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>>2777302
Neat. Looking forward to that as well.
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>>2777302
I've been waiting over 20 years to hear you say those words, boss.
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>>2776050
>>2776092

Could also do a Time Patrol epilogue/omake. Maybe Trunks, Ace, the SKoT, and the Elder Kai overlooking the events transpiring in the quest so far. Business as usual, until someone starts looking away from the flashy war until one of them notices Kars and starts doing some live research into who this guy could be.

Or maybe even Towa wondering whether it would be a good idea to try and capture Kars and/or intervene in the battle of New Salda.
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>>2777317
Oh no, now the fear is creeping up.
Oldschool animation is dead, which means it's going to be made using modern animation techniques.

"That" keeps creeping into the back of my mind. I can't bear it again.
CLANG CLANG CLANG
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>>2777323
Gonna hope it's just a cleaned up version of the original style.
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>>2777318
It would be kinda amazing to have SKoT herself go down and try to defeat Kars out of worry for the universe as a whole. She thinks she destroyed him (but he survives a la Cell) and the display of God Ki wakes Beerus up, who looks towards New Salda and sees this fun fucking war
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>>2777318
>Or maybe even Towa wondering whether it would be a good idea to try and capture Kars and/or intervene in the battle of New Salda.
She’s not messing with him until she has a foolproof plan. As for the battle, for now she’s observing.
>>2777323
Great. Now I’m worried about it too.
>>2777677
SKoT will not interfere, unless someone/something else does first and she tries to right history. Beerus waking up could have disastrous consequences, especially without a Super Saiyan God.
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>>2777738
Maybe introduce a completely alien element to the puzzle that is this timeline? Towa is like the part that fits too loose, maybe try throwing in someone from a completely different timeline? That would give you a reason to make proper use of SKoT

Unless you have very specific plans for her already, you sly dog?
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>>2777769
I will say that I’ve mentioned other Towas being a thing before.
Next thread will be fun.
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>>2777801
And that image wasn’t supposed to be spoilered. Oh well.
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>>2777803
what could it mean?
is the gravity hammer the key to EVERYTHING?

Quickly, we must speculate for hours on what he meant by this!
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>>2777831
that guy was the brute that we battled sometime ago when in the space station
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>>2777832
Could he be going undercover to sabotage the covenant fleet?
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>>2777831
Kek.
>>2777832
And again on New Salda during the peace.
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>>2777834
Does Mr.Brute have a name?
Is his name Brutus?

is he on the fast track to being the new arbiter?
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>>2777833
No, he is loyal to the Covenant. He respects you as a warrior, but he is loyal to a fault.
>>2777840
Probably.
Ha.
>spoiler
No. He can’t even compete with you anymore.
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>>2777840
Arbiters are a position of honor/disgrace for Sanghelli exclusively, I think.
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>>2777876
Poor brutus.
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>>2777880
Yes.
>>2777881
His fate will be decided next time.
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>>2777942
A few serious questions:
Is it possible to kill SKoT? And by that I mean render them 100% super mega unable-to-return-ever dead.
And what drawbacks/consequences would there be to killing her?
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>>2778004
I’d be concerned about her being replaced with someone more competent.
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>>2777942
What does kaioshin think of karn as a person, of his super moves so far, and of the whole covenant war and the PTO in general?
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>>2778025
Oh yeah, the Covenant outright broke the treaty the kais were there to help out with between them and the PTO. I wonder what their take on this whole debacle is now that the war has become a massive one-planet siege?
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>>2778030
should be interesting, depending on the details
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>>2778004
>Is it possible to kill SKoT?
Yes.
>And by that I mean render them 100% super mega unable-to-return-ever dead.
If you go full Zamasu, potentially.
>And what drawbacks/consequences would there be to killing her?
As >>2778024 says.
>>2778025
>What does kaioshin think of karn as a person, of his super moves so far, and of the whole covenant war and the PTO in general?
Not much. He hasn’t heard of the battle. Yet.
>>2778030
When he hears of this, he’ll be rather upset with the Covenant leadership, and have something to say to them.
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>>2778065
>he’ll be rather upset with the Covenant leadership, and have something to say to them
You mean what's left of them, amirite?
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>>2778065
>Shin is this out of the loop
I forgot how fucking terrible he was at his job
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>>2778116
They’re not here at the battle, that’d be insane.
>>2778207
He’ll probably hear about this, you know, when its over.
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>>2778207
Not to mention a lil bitchboi who couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag. Now I hear you, saying he's actually incredibly strong, stronger than nearly every other being in the universe up until the end of the Cell Saga when everyone got swole. But he is a lil bitchboi.
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>>2778320
...would be nice if karn could just, y'know, telepathy at him.
too bad we only saw him once, probably can't remember what he feels like.
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>>2778369
Not really wrong. He’s an apprentice who never finished his training, after all.
>>2778552
It could be attempted. But whatever’s blocking magic is also blocking your ki senses and telepathy.
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>>2778567
>It could be attempted. But whatever’s blocking magic is also blocking your ki senses and telepathy.

Fukken Magnets, how do they work?
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>>2778369
He might have been worth something if he actually trained in the fuck-huge amount of time he's had to do so.
Hell, if he had half a mind to he could have busted the Z-Sword by his own damn self millennia ago.
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>>2778656
>"So I've got millions of years with which to live. Fuck I guess I'll watch Z-Tube for a while."

>"Oh shit Majin Buu again!? If only there were warriors strong enough to beat him!"
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>>2778628
Good question. Better question, is how King Cold will handle it.
>>2778656
Right? The Kais just seem a bunch of do-nothing neets.
>>2778679
Exactly. He’s not the brightest.
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>>2778693
>gods of creation and destruction literally linked body and soul to the point that killing one kills the other too
>they don't live together
>basically live on other ends of the goddamn universe
>they know nothing about how the other's job is going, or even if they're doing it at all
>protip: they aren't
>one sits around with his thumbs up his ass doing literally nothing while the other is actually literally asleep for tens of thousands or even millions of years at a time
>when the destroyer does wake up he threatens planets for food and destroys them on a whim if he doesn't enjoy it

Zamasu was right.
Going full genocidal tabula rasa on the universe wasn't what he needed to do, but he was right about everyone.
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>>2778704
Its a sad day when even Sidra and Roh are better at your job than you are.
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>>2778735
And of course I forgot my image.
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>>2778693
Did Cooler roll badly on getting rid of the anti-magic device? Or is him not getting to it an important plot point that we'll have to tackle/make someone tackle ourselves?

Anyways, to me it's pretty important that we send a call to Shin when it /does/ come down. Like, first things first kind of important
>Get the field down
>Get fucking help because well over half of the armada is here and it's better to make Shin tell them to go home. It's better to not fight the arbiter than fight the arbiter
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>>2778778
>Did Cooler roll badly on getting rid of the anti-magic device? Or is him not getting to it an important plot point that we'll have to tackle/make someone tackle ourselves?
He COULD have possibly found it out. But so far he’s missed it.
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>>2778896
>He COULD have possibly found it out. But so far he’s missed it.
I hope he realizes how much he's disappointing his father right now.
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>>2778952
Better question is whether King Cold will figure out what’s going on or not.
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>>2778993
Hey is it possible to pickup off a dead body/steal a gravity hammer and keep it? Maybe reverse engineer it so we could possibly make gravity brass knuckles? Just a random thought i had while driving home.
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>>2778998
I think having some gravity gauntlets would be a great idea.
Certainly a good thing to have when we can't cut or shoot our enemies to pieces.
I think they shouldn't break so long as we properly channel our ki through them.
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>>2778998
Its a possibility. You could easily take one as a trophy, or use on other infantry for awhile. It wouldn’t be the first trophy Karn’s taken, like that mechanical head you’d kept awhile back. Wonder whatever happened to it...
>>2779008
There’s an idea. Would have to wait for the tech to be improved, having those giant blocks on your hands is rather unwieldy in a proper fight.
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>>2779033
>Wonder whatever happened to it...
popcorn bowl
>having those giant blocks on your hands is rather unwieldy in a proper fight
as is having a ring of Katchin on one hand, but I feel you
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>>2779046
I'd still totally be down for swinging around a gravity hammer during the siege though.
I can just imagine our Brute buddy admiring our follow-through as we turn a Sangheli into paste.
>tfw a heretic can wield your signature weapon better than you
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>>2779050
A good back up weapon for when we run out of Ki/Need to conserve energy.
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>>2779082

we totally should.
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>>2778004
>Trunks: "Okay. since Karn Killed SKoT While I was hiding like a bitch we were searching for the new god of time. Ace said he found someone Strong and Competent.
>Trunks Enters the Time Nest.
>Vegita: "Hello boy"
>Trunks: "Oh crapbaskets."
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>>2779139
>Prince Vegeta, Supreme Commander of the Time Patrol
I might actually be scared of them for once.
Hell, I think Canon Vegeta would make a decent leader if you picked him up anywhere after the final confrontation with Majin Buu.
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>>2778024
All hail Kars, the Ultimate Kai-Form of time!
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>>2779219
He's gonna eat all time-stopping Vampires.
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>>2779046
It’s weight isn’t noticeable outside the Gravity Chamber.
>>2779050
Ha.
>>2779082
>>2779120
Nothing’s stopping you, you just have to pick one up.
>>2779139
Kek.
>>2779195
The biggest problem is Vegeta doesn’t know shit about magic.
>>2779219
Hmmmm.I can’t decide if he’d be awful at the job, or take it personally when people travel time and break the rules.
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>>2779268
>The biggest problem is Vegeta doesn’t know shit about magic.
Counterpoint; nearly everybody who does know about magical shit is almost immediately made irrelevant as soon as they're introduced
Also Old Kai would likely be an advisor to Vegeta because what's a commander without his subordinates?
>>2779268
>Hmmmm.I can’t decide if he’d be awful at the job, or take it personally when people travel time and break the rules.
I assume he wouldn't care at all for the natural order of things in the first place and treat the position as something akin to being an Emperor of the Timestream.
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>>2779272
>Emperor of the Timestream.
Kars VS Demigra PQ when?
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>>2779268
I wonder if karn would be good at magic.
Maybe he should learn clothes beam.
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>>2779272
>Counterpoint; nearly everybody who does know about magical shit is almost immediately made irrelevant as soon as they're introduced
True.
>Also Old Kai would likely be an advisor to Vegeta because what's a commander without his subordinates?
A prince without a kingdom?
>and treat the position as something akin to being an Emperor of the Timestream.
But would he take offense to time travelrs and stop them?
>>2779274
Would not go well for Karn, at least in anytime in the near future.
>>2779296
Saiyans have no natural affinity for magic. Other races out there do, like Raven’s people did. Not saying it is impossible to learn, but Saiyan magical potential is really low. Saiyans are a warrior race, not a magical one.
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>>2779335
I said Kars not Karn.
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>>2779364
Oh. Yes you did. However, the answer is still Demigra.
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Only around 24 more hours until episode 52 begins!
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>>2779432
Does karn get confused by the occasional week's worth of contemplating and inspiration that rushes into his head?
Foreign concepts about people and things he doesn't know and hasn't seen? Do they rush into his mind as he sleeps?

Does karn ever feel the influence of anons?
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>>2779506
No, I’ve said before that anons aren’t ‘real’ in-universe. Karn’s not like a certain other protagonist with voices in his head. Unless someone’s using telepathy.
>Does karn ever feel the influence of anons?
No. But the influence of something or someone else happened, and more than the once as well.
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>>2779627
>spoiler

OMG SANTA!
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>>2779666
Kek
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>>2779627
>Karn’s not like a certain other protagonist with voices in his head.
Does this mean Arctus can hear anonymous ethereal voices sometimes telling/compelling him to do random shit, even though his original quest is dead and gone? Wow, that's fucked up. I bet getting hammered doesn't help.

>>2779934
Please please please use this song whenever Vegeta does something hype in the quest from now on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95hzQGiKiEg
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>>2780107
I’d meant Maple. Arctus does hear voices, but for a different reason.
Good song as well.


Also, I’ve started on the epilogue for next week while I’ve been at work. Here’s small taste of what’s to come after next thread.
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>>2780128
>Maple
I am hype. Looking forward to it.
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>>2780128
Karn and pals meet the abridged cast omake when
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>>2780128
>>2780454
This, the universe must quiver from the BOY that resounds throughout it, and the consequent dressing down when they find out he has a girlfriend.
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>>2780479
I just want abridged vegeta to be proud.
I think he would be.

Especially of himself.
Killed his father, took the throne, became super saiyan at eight and near-constantly commands the entire saiyan race, which is alive and extremely powerful, in battle.

I just wonder how upset he'd be, knowing that the only difference between our universe and his, was that karn lived.
Oh how different things could have been, how close he was to what we have.
Maybe he can take solace in the fact that there's at least one timeline out there like that.
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>>2780527
Of course this is immediately followed by the loudest BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY!
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>>2780454
Oh god i want this.
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>>2780172
It might not be the exact same one you remember, the one you may meet may have made a few different choices. Multiverse theory is great(and a headache) like that.
>>2780454
Perhaps April?
>>2780479
Ha. Meloka’s already figured Hyoka out, but in-character Karn hasn’t yet. After all, you didn’t hear what they said to each other in their battle.
>>2780527
>I just want abridged vegeta to be proud.
>I think he would be.
Of the Saiyans? Yes. Of your timeline’s version of him? Extremely. It would massively inflate his ego that he could have been such a great king at a record young age.
>I just wonder how upset he'd be, knowing that the only difference between our universe and his, was that karn lived.
Extremely. If he ever dies again he’d search the afterlife for his reality’s Karn and ask why he couldn’t be better.
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>>2780548
>it immediately becomes clear that trunks' general failures are a million times worse when everyone else is even mildly competent
>vegeta's face when he finds out karn's record vs trunks

but then the big question comes up
>"Why are you still punching people?"
And thus, he's introduced to the ki-blade and death beam.

I wonder how he'd feel when he finds out that in this timeline, karn invented the final flash and uses it to great effect on a regular basis.
Almost everything it's ever touched has died.

But of course, most important is his reaction when he finds out that goku is a weakling and raditz, fucking raditz of all people, has far more drive and potential than goku.
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>>2780574
Would that break abridged vegeta or send him so far around the bend he feels the need to tell Goku to get Stronger than he is?
>>2780572
Is there a chance we can ask the missus about the GIRL?
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>>2780574
Oh, and don't forget the fucking kicker.
What happens if he finds out there's a super saiyan 4, and he can't reach it because he and goku are disfigured without their tail?
And that super saiyan 4 might be the comparative "easy street" to becoming a literal god?

How quickly do you think he'd be searching for treatment at that point?

Also, i'd love to hear abridged vegeta learn karn's powerlevel and then immediately go into the gravity chamber with him.

"Hah, 50x gravity? Pathetic, i've long since mastered over five hundr-"
Vegeta falls face first on the floor, breaking his nose with a crunch as he grasps his face and screams obscenities.
"That's 50x new salda's gravity. I don't know what planet's gravity you were using for reference, but it sounds like some tiny, backwater shithole."
"HOW! HOW ARE YOU SO STRONG WITH SUCH A TINY POWERLEVEL!"
"I do lots of situps, lots of pushups, and drink lots of juice. I call it the Karnage Training Program."
"That's... Just show me the goddamn workout routine."
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>>2780574
>But of course, most important is his reaction when he finds out that goku is a weakling and raditz, fucking raditz of all people, has far more drive and potential than goku.
“...Either your timeline is extremely fucked up, or mine is, or I died at Beerus’ hand as a boy and have been stuck in my own personal hell ever since. I don’t know which is worse.”
>>2780579
>Is there a chance we can ask the missus about the GIRL?
If a reason to ever comes up.
>>2780594
>What happens if he finds out there's a super saiyan 4, and he can't reach it because he and goku are disfigured without their tail?
“WOMAN!! FIND ME A WAY TO REGROW MY DAMN TAIL! NOW!!”
>”That's... Just show me the goddamn workout routine."
Kek.
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>>2780594
>write that
>sudden flashback to the series
>"If you can call that living. You'd walk around a tail-less freak!"
>bust out laughing

oh god, my sides
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>>2780572
>Extremely. If he ever dies again he’d search the afterlife for his reality’s Karn and ask why he couldn’t be better.

>goes to find his reality's Karn

>Canon!Karn is doing nothing but training in the afterlife since he died and he's so swole he makes Broly look like a manlet so they had to lock him up to protect the afterlife from his rampant gains
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>>2780599
Found it!
https://youtu.be/6fAQtmY2NUM?t=329
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>>2780599
Good scene.
>>2780614
Nah, he’d died in that timeline on Kvir’s Moon, along with Leyas and Meloka. He hadn’t really gotten into training yet. Nappa got Tatsu out, who taught Bardock’s Power Ball technique to the elites.
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>>2780614
>he and nappa have gone as far as SSJ4
>after a self-hating episode, Vegeta hauls ass for the Dragon balls to wish them back
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>>2780614
This sounds like a beautiful headcannon.
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>>2780637
Oh god, Abridged Vegeta would totally grovel on his hands and knees for that chance, and he would have to after Karn finds out what the prince did to his buddy.
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>>2780614
>without a family to keep karn's anger under control, he eventually went berserk, and never came back down from the form
>now he lies chained to the floor in the deepest pits of tartarus beyond hell itself, where he trains by straining his muscles against the very chains that bind him to this day
>no god can save us when the end of days comes, and he breaks those unbreakable chains
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>>2780636
What is dead Karn doing in Hell anyhow?
How strong is he by the time Frieza gets defeated?
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>>2780671
I vote for this>>2780658
with nonstop training montages with his team mates
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>>2780686
There is no training montage.

Just imagine the camera panning closer to a heavy door made of darkened stone, lit only faintly by small, flickering torches and inscribed deeply with unfamiliar runes and images.
They grind open slowly as dust falls from between it's cracks to reveal an unsettling darkness, one that seems to creep towards the camera as it draws near.
No movement can be seen inside that room. Not even the faintest shadow. But there is a noise emanating from within.

You hear it, faintly at first.
Then it grows stronger. The sound of metal straining, ringing and crying under some great force.
And then, a snap as something gives way.
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>>2780636
I think it's really weird that no one ever thinks to train ever except for the Earthlings. Everyone else only picks it up after hearing about it. Like damn the Toriverse is full of lazy people.
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>>2780704
Honestly, i'd like to imagine that's how the world ends in most timelines.
Nothing else really matters in any of them.
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>>2780671
Locked up after trying to escape, much like Freeza, Cell, King Cold and the Ginyus were. And not very, he never got on the training ship.
>>2780722
Most simply accepted their places in the universe. Many who tried to rise up and get stronger were crushed by the PTO, Freeza wanting to remain the ‘strongest.’
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>>2780785
Lucky for him, now he's the even stronger-est.
Eventually he'll be so damn strong that he won't have to kill everyone who trains themselves to stay the strongest.
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>>2780870
For some reason this made me imagine a timeline where Frieza underwent some Jiren shit and went super mega autist about building his strength from a young age. This thought terrifies me.
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>>2780870
It’s certainly a different universe now.
>>2781512
That Freeza could potentially fight Jiren on an even field.
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