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Looking for a place to eat, you and Ryou decide to head to the commercial center...

I AM REBORN IN A HAREM ROMCOM, BUT I'M ONLY A MOB CHARACTER?! 6
By: BSG
Twitter: https://twitter.com/bisugoQM
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>>2168515
Something’s been bugging you since a while ago...
“Since we don’t have much money, is fast food alright, Ken-kun?”
“I don’t mind.”
“I’d have preferred something fancier,” she says, smiling. “But since it’s just practice, this will do right?”

...You just can’t seem to put a finger on it…

“Of course.”
She grins, while both of you enter the local fast food place.

“Ken-kun, Ken-kun, let’s sit over here.”
“Eh? In the corner, class rep?”
“Of course, idiot. I mean, what if someone sees us, right?”

You frown, and proceed to take the seat across from Ryou.

“Is something wrong, Ken-kun?”
“...Not really, no…”

You sit down opposite Ryou while she ruffles through her purse.

“Ken-kun, what do you want? I’ll go and order for us.”

You glance around the place. Though the place is filled with [Mobs], there aren’t any who were wearing your uniform.

“Ken-kun?”
“A-Ah, right, then I’ll have a…”

“...Ok, wait for me a bit, I’ll just get us our food, alright?”
“...Alright?”

She leaves with a smile. Somehow, despite the air-conditioning, everything feels hot. You unbutton your collar. Why do you feel so uncomfortable?

You feel a weight on your breast pocket. You grab inside and bring out its contents: your ancient flip phone.
Somehow, you feel like it’s become heavier this past few minutes…

>Leave.
>Call someone.
>Wait for Ryou.
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>>2168527
>Because she tried to come onto you when you're already taken, you dipstick. Don't fall into it or get protagonist dense.

>Wait for Ryou.

She gets ONE chance to apologize for this.
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>>2168527
Act as if we got a call/message, and excuse our self. Then we must alert Hanazawa that we can't be alone with class rep anymore.
Or this.>>2168536
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>>2168515
WOOOOOO LETS REFORM SOME SLUTS!
>>2168527
>Quick text to girlfriend to help us.
>>2168536
this too.
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>>2168527
>Leave.
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>>2168536
Supporting this.
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>>2168527
This >>2168536
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Also, I want to emphasize- ONE chance, and it's a hardline situation. No 'oh it's just skinship/just kidding' shit. That was a major NO. If she refuses to acknowledge that she went over the line, we say nothing, just get up, walk away, and tell Hanazawa everything.
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>>2168554
We should tell her everything anyway.
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>>2168554
Also, going to be shifting IPs in a bit.
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>>2168554
Sounds about right.
>>2168536
Supporting
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>>2168527
>IT'S TIME

Going for >>2168536

Time to figure out how the fuck we got here.
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>Wait for Ryou.
Writing.
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>>2168554
This too
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>>2168556
There's no need if things don't escalate or anything, one free pass seems fair.
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>>2168527
This >>2168536
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>>2168527
I never agreed to this 'practice', bsg, you slut
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>>2168560
Check one two. Same poster here.
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>>2168588
Roger Same Poster, we read you five-by-five.
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>>2168527
You can’t really think of a good reason to just leave the class rep behind. And you don’t have a dying need to call anyone right now. You place the phone back in your pocket.

While doing so, out of the corner of your eye you see someone’s napkin fall on the floor. You hasten to pick it up and give it to the guy who dropped it.

“Hey man, you dropped this.”
“Oh, it seems I did. Thanks, Aniki!”

...Wait.
“Kei?! What are you doing here?”

He’s smiling innocently, carrying a tray with burger, fries, and a soda.

“There was something interesting happening in the area, so I decided to grab some food while I’m at it.”
“...Is that so…” If Kei’s here, then there must be something going on after all…

“Don’t raise her suspicions.”

“...What?”
He’s still smiling, but the contents of his words are filled with seriousness.
“If she realizes you have an inkling of what’s going on, it’s going to be baaaad.”
“What do you mean by that?”

“I don’t know, [Erasure] maybe? Maybe even [BAD END].”
The hairs in the back of your neck stand up.

“...So what do I do?”
“Oh would you look at that? My show’s about to start!”

Kei turns around and somehow disappears into the crowd. Before you could even call him out,

“Ken-kun?”

You hear Ryou’s voice from behind. While carrying a tray, the class rep looks at you, eyebrows raised.

“Were you talking to someone just now?”

>Nope. Let me help you with that.
>Yep. It was my little brother.
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>>2168614
>“I don’t know, [Erasure] maybe? Maybe even [BAD END].”
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>>2168571
Testing, did it change?
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>>2168614
>Nope. Let me help you with that.
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>>2168614
>Nope. Let me help you with that.

Don't trust the little shit, he's lying through his shit devil teeth.
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>>2168614
>Nah.
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>>2168614
>Nope. Let me help you with that.
Keep calm and carry on.
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>>2168614
>Someone thought I was someone else is all.

>Okay. Ken. Can you hear this? If you can hear this even a little bit... what's your favorite fruit? Don't worry about why, just answer.
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>>2168614
>>Nope. Let me help you with that.
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Stand back, I'm trying some science.
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>>2168614
>Nope. Let me help you with that.
So we can't confront her and we can't ignore her
Hanazawa will be mad that we don't trust her intensions if we tell her
We just need to spurn her advances
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>>2168614
>Yep. It was my little brother.
Distract her by talking about family.
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>>2168628
Good luck.
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>>2168614
“...Nah. Let me help with you that, Ryou.”
“Ah, right. Thanks.”

Before she could ask anymore, you usher Ryou into the booth. She takes the seat opposite you.

“Itadakimasu.”
“...Yeah.”

Your head is running at a million miles an hour. Why is Kei here? ‘Suspicions’? And maybe most importantly…

Ryou takes a bite of her burger, before glancing at you.

“Are you alright, Ken-kun?”
“What do you mean?”
“You look a bit sick. Is there something wrong?”

>This is all wrong, Ryou.
>I’m just confused on what this whole thing is really about.
>Write in
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>>2168665
>I’m just confused on what this whole thing is really about.
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>>2168665
>>I’m just confused on what this whole thing is really about.
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>>2168665
>I’m just confused on what this whole thing is really about.
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>>2168665
>I'm starting to wonder we just why he shows up every time we're about to break the mold and stop something actually stupid from happening. It's getting a bit ridiculous, and he can't keep using that stupid threat forever. Eventually we're going to just stop giving a sweet crap, Ken. No matter what you used to be, I know you're better than this.

>All of this. Reminds me of your nickname.
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>>2168665

>I’m just confused on what this whole thing is really about.
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>>2168665
>I’m just confused on what this whole thing is really about.
We really should talk to someone about these blackouts. Like were we an alcoholic in our past life?
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>>2168665
>>I’m just confused on what this whole thing is really about.

Fucking Kei, now I'm afraid of what might happen.
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>>2168665
“I’m just confused on what this whole thing is really about.”

She wipes her lips with a napkin.

“Well, I thought that since you guys are a new couple, you’d still be a bit lost in all of this. Am I right?”
“...Yeah. This is the first time I’ve ever dated anyone. I want to treasure her as much as possible.”
“See? Now you haven’t gone in your first date right? Wouldn’t it be better if you’re a bit more prepared in handling it when the time comes?”
“...I guess you’re right. But then, Ryou…”
“Yes?”

>”Will you be doing the same thing with Hanazawa?”
>”How far will this practice go?”
>”You don’t really have much experience either, right?”
>”Nevermind. I don’t really have a question.”
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>>2168729

>”Will you be doing the same thing with Hanazawa?”

>She's got nice words, but don't let her twist you around. If you're uncomfortable, then you're uncomfortable, and you should say so, Ken.
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>>2168729
>”Will you be doing the same thing with Hanazawa?”
The rest are trap options, avoid!
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>>2168729
>”You don’t really have much experience either, right?”
>”Will you be doing the same thing with Hanazawa?”
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>>2168729
>>”Will you be doing the same thing with Hanazawa?”
>>2168738
>>She's got nice words, but don't let her twist you around. If you're uncomfortable, then you're uncomfortable, and you should say so, Ken.
This↑
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>>2168729
>”Will you be doing the same thing with Hanazawa?”
Just cause I think at the very least it'll make her flustered.
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>>2168729
>”You don’t really have much experience either, right?”

>”Will you be doing the same thing with Hanazawa?”
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>>2168729
This >>2168738
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>>2168738
this
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>>2168729
>”Will you be doing the same thing with Hanazawa?”
>>2168741
Agreed
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>>2168738
This right here. Supporting this.
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>>2168729
“Will you be doing the same thing with Hanazawa?”
She frowns. “Hanazawa?”

“I mean, if you’re going to be practicing with me on dating, shouldn’t you be doing the same for her?”
Ryou leans back on her seat, still frowning. “Well...no, not really.”
“Eh? Why not?”

“Maybe that should be our first lesson. Despite you being boyfriend and girlfriend now, dating is still an act of courting. Girls court guys in their own ways, but guys need to take the initiative when taking girls out to dates. You shouldn’t be thinking that, ‘she should be practicing as well’, think of it as more like ‘she’s the big game I’m preparing for’. Makes sense?”
“I think so, yes.”

“That’s why,” she says, smiling. “You should keep this a secret from her, okay?”

>No problem, class rep
>I’m uncomfortable with that, Ryou
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>>2168784
>I’m uncomfortable with that, Ryou
When there is nothing else, there is the Truth.
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>>2168784
>I’m uncomfortable with that, Ryou

Relationships, foundations of trust, no-secrets and all that jazz.
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>>2168784
>I’m uncomfortable with that, Ryou
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>>2168791
Correct
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>>2168784
>I’m uncomfortable with that, Ryou
>Rep...I am seeing little hearts in your eyes....want to explain that comment?
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>>2168791
This, right here my mans.
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>>2168784
Backing this>>2168801
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>>2168784
>I’m uncomfortable with that, Ryou
Shit, how do we fight this?
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If Ryou ends up being the secret Yandere I'm gonna be sad and afraid.
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>>2168784
>Can't do that, Class Rep.
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Fpr the record guys, saying you're uncomfortable is not saying no.
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>>2168784
>I’m uncomfortable with that, Ryou
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>>2168784
Backing this >>2168814

Perhaps we could make this easier by saying we want the surprise and joy of doing something new with Mayumi. I'm terrible with excuses but we have to get out without making Ryou want to fuck us up more.
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>>2168840
That actually sounds good.
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>>2168814
+1
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>>2168784
>I’m uncomfortable with that, Ryou
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>>2168840
This
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>>2168784
“I’m uncomfortable with that, Ryou.”
“...Why?”

“Well...I don’t like the thought of keeping secrets from her. Aren’t relationships founded on mutual trust?”
“That’s true. But ‘trust’ doesn’t mean ‘always truthful’, Ken-kun. We always have to say a few lies sometimes. Keep a few secrets. Even I have some things I haven’t shared to Eiji. As much as we want to stay as transparent as possible, people aren’t, and shouldn’t, be like that.”
“Still…”

“Ok, see it this way,” Ryou leans forward and faces you with a serious expression. “Say you tell her about this whole meetup. Add to that the fact of us being friends and now working together, wouldn’t she misunderstand a few things? Even if we’re not doing anything wrong, she’ll never get the whole picture. We’re both going to get into trouble for absolutely nothing.”

“So you’re telling me to lie to her?”
“No! Of course not. That’s even worse. ‘Trust’, right? All I’m asking is that you keep things quiet for now, and then we’ll tell her once everything is finished.”


>Push the issue further.
>Let it go for now. See where she’s heading with this.
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>>2168863
>Push the issue further.
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>>2168863
>Push the issue further
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>>2168863
>Push the issue further.
Helllllllll noooooooo, we just got a girlfriend, keep it in your pants prez
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>>2168863
>>Push the issue further.
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>>2168863
>Ah, but what you dont know is that we've already been through that. As long as you don't do anything silly like try to kiss me or anything like that, she knows that we're just friends. We've already played through that misunderstanding.

>Alternately, say yes and then immediately tell your girlfriend exactly what's up and what she's trying to play at to keep a discreet eye on her.
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>>2168863
Like, this is the one case where she's a little bit behind in the ballgame.
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>>2168863
>Push the issue further.
>Ah, but what you don't know is that we've already been through that. As long as you don't do anything silly like try to kiss me or anything like that, she knows that we're just friends. We've already played through that misunderstanding.
In for a penny.
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>>2168863
>Push the issue further.
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>>2168863
>I really appreciate your help, but I still can't shake this feeling that I'm doing something wrong here.
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>>2168882
This.
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>Yknow what? Our brother keeps talking about [Erasure] and [BAD END]... but it's only now I just realized. He never said who it would happen to specifically, I don't think. You, Ken? Pr the girls?

Just something I realized. If this really is much like a harem anime, then what happens to those girls that no longer decide to or are otherwise unable to participate in the race for the protagonist? They get removed from the plot at Large, most cases.

Or in other words... [erased] from the story.

And as for the other possibility? Well, we've all seen what happens in certain visual novels win someone is a bit too callous. No one needs to ride on their boat right now.

That's it, I still think there's room for us to be rather sincere and no nonsense about this. Just stating a few thoughts.
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>>2168863
“No, Ryou. I’ll have to draw a boundary here.”
The class rep’s expression darkens. You push the issue further.
“I shouldn’t be lying to Hanazawa at any cost.”
“At any cost? Ken-kun, we’re not lying to her. We’re just preparing a surprise. We aren’t doing anything wrong!”
“So why won’t you involve her? If we’re not doing anything wrong, that much should be fine, right? Maybe I should call her mys--”

“Hey, old man!”
You hear your little brother’s voice. What did he just call you--?!

But when you look at the direction of his voice, you find yourself even more confused.
Kei is standing by a yellow slippery sign, and he seems to be assisting an elderly person. But for some reason, the elder man looks even more confused than you do.

“You should watch out, old man, you’re getting into some SLIPPERY TERRITORRY right now!”
“Look, young man, I’m aware, I could see the sign, now can you please hand me back my--”
“If you’re not careful, you might just fall down on your END!”
“I got it, now hand me back my--”
“Old man...Have you ever wondered why the floor is wet and slippery?”
“...What are you going on about now…?”
“Because it is nigh but a floor, forgotten and stepped upon, and it’s wet and slippery with tears. But it BEARS it’s pain, and PLAYS ALONG with destiny’s foolish game…”
“Excuse me, miss? Do you happen to have some security staff around?”
“Butintheendit’salluptoyouokbye.”

He then gives back the tray to the old man, before running off. What kind of comedic act is this...?

“He looks familiar…”
“Just your imagination, class rep.”

Ryou returns to her original position. She grabs her drink and plays with the straw. Her usual bubbly self seems a bit absent.

She seems to be thinking deeply.

>Start dialling.
>Stand your ground.
>Play along with her plan.
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>>2168963
>>Stand your ground.

Get fucked destiny. You can stop us from destroying the premise of your show but you cant make us be a cheating asshole.
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>>2168963
>>Play along with her plan.
AAAAAH, ok ok!
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>>2168963
>Stand your ground.
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>>2168963
>Stand your Ground
Devil of this world indeed. And it looks like he has a horse in this race. Well if he wants to have things his way, that piece of shit has to do something about it himself. We are slaves to no man, and certainly not to fate.
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>>2168963
>>Stand your ground.
Maybe he just didn't want us to call Hanazawa
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>>2168963
>Play along with her plan.
The only other [Meta} character is doin shit like this, I gotta accept it. Strap in bois, we're goin for a ride.
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>>2168963
>Play along with her plan.
Call Hanazawa after and ask her out on a date
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>>2168963
>Stand your ground.
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>>2168963
>>Stand your ground.
We die free
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>>2168963
>Play along with her plan.
I don't like it, I REALLY don't like it, but I feel like our brother isn't genuinely the bad guy here, and despite all the red flags we're getting, she isn't really doing anything wrong yet.

I say we trust Hanazawa to listen to our side of things if things go south, but until then let's see if we can observe more about the whole situation.
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>>2168980
>>2168985
>>2168987
Cowards that you are! Spines broken under a moments pressure! LIVE FREE, OR DIE!
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>>2168963
>>Play along with her plan.

FUCK.
I really don't want to do this but I fear for our fate if we do something like rejecting her.
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>>2168996
This is about just surviving nigga, we ain't even done shit yet and we can always bail before so I'll go along with it for a bit if it means avoiding premature [END]s.
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>>2168996
But i zaid stand our ground
Our brother has to actually invest tike unto us if he doesn't want us to fuck with his plans
It would be great if just exposed him as our brother too
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>>2168996
I trust bro about as far as I can throw him, but there's no need to take useless risks out of spite.
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>>2168963
>Stand your ground.
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Also just to remind everyone, our brother has yet to do a single Malicious act to us and even chose to give us the knowledge that he was a [Meta] character at all when he didn't need to.

If he were truly against us surely there would be SOME indicator of it.
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I do wonder, if the quest ends so quickly, would people be okay with that?

At this stage in the game, I'm not entirely certain what to vote for, but I will say that I'm not a fan of playing this game, and I think that he's hiding a few things that either he really should have informed us about, or really doesn't want to inform us about because going against what he says would ruin his own plans.

... although that does give me an idea.

> play along
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>>2169023
I would be sad but I'd get over it. It's already pretty noteworthy in its own regard.
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>>2169029
Yeah, I wouldn't be sad either. I'm just a greedy son of a gun who loves to play games and I want to see if I can beat the qm at his own.
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>>2168963

>Stand your ground.
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>>2169035
Seeing this as a competion is a prety unhealthy mindset for roleplaying games. Try instead to think of it as creating a story together.
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>>2168963
>>Play along with her plan.
What I'm worried about is, what if instead of Ryou bring erased, it erases Hanazawa, so we have no reason not to listen to a "main character" of sorts. All the girls in the harem are also like main heroines right? So since Ryou is still in the harem, maybe she has some slight pull on the world?
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>>2169047
Depends on the game. Old school games, like the first few editions of D&D were nothing but player vs GM affairs.
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>>2169047
You might have missed my big to do in the first thread. Normally that's how I do see it, but with how the qm has been cherry-picking a lot of his responses, I can't help but see it as an adversarial relationship in this specific case. A very fun and not at all personal adversarial relationship, but adversarial all the same.
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>>2169052
Im uncertain if thats true, but it's not entirely unreasonable as we have an example in a different way with our Parents having some [Meta] knowledge but not being completely [Awake] at the same time. Not unreasonable to think something like that exists for the Harem
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>>2169052
That's the reason I'm speculating, anyway. As fucked up as it is, the only way rejecting her could lead to a bad end is if she were a main character in some capacity and we caused her not to have [Happiness].

Of course, I could be wrong, but still.
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>>2168963
>Play along.
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It's a tie on my count (8-8). Any last votes?
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>>2169052
It's kind of mixed. A lot of the times in more comedic harems, then yeah, all of them are the main character. Stuff that's a bit more dramatic, like I want to say this show, usually has members slowly drop out as things go on.
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>>2169071
Sure, I'll switch to
> Play Along
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>>2169063
My main issue right now is that if we rudely shut her down it can come across as us being paranoid because of her old maneater title and forcing that label upon her again. Like yeah, that's apparently happening in a really terrifying way, but to the perspective of whatever part of her better self remains, Ken doesn't actually have that knowledge yet and reacting so harshly could really feel like a betrayal, and maybe make things worse.

The problem is we don't know enough of what's going on or how to fix it, it's a bad decision either way, but there's gotta be a route to the "True Ending" of our story and I believe our brother is genuinely trying to help us get it.
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>>2169071
I would humbly request that we emphasize that we are very very very not happy with having to do this and that we think lesser of her for it via a very strong frown.
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>>2169086
I wouldn't go so far as to say he wants us to get the True Ending or anything. Goddammit not knowing his motivation makes it so hard to understand him though. Maybe we should try to talk to him when we can.
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>>2169082
Alright
>Play along
Writing.

btw sorry for the slow updates i currently have the shits
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>>2168963
>Stand your ground.
>Class rep I don't get why we need to keep this a secret in the first place. Consider this, we both work at the same place, we both get off at round the same time, we both also haven't gotten dinner yet so stopping by at a place to grab a bite or two to eat doesn't really matter much in the long run right?

So why would this be need to be kept a secret?
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>>2169106
I know the pain QM, just got over food poisoning yesterday.
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>>2169091
You know that's not how BSG works. If you wanted to disapprove you shouldn't have voted to play along
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>>2169108
We can't say something like that because meta reasons. Every time we've tried cutting the knot of a problem brother steps in to say no don't do that.
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>>2169106
BRAAAAAAP
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>>2169116
I know. A man can hope. If this causes something screwball though, I'm probably going to rectify that real quick and just say hit the self-destruct switch.
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Jesus you guys are way to worried and trusting at the same time
I feel like the QM won't game over us for this choice, thats just dumb
And the fact that our brother hasn't explained jack shit shows that he only cares about entertaining himself
For all we could know a bad end for him could be ejii achiving happiness
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>>2169122
Noted.
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>>2169122
That's why I say we navigate this shitstorm for now and then first oppertunity we confront bro about what HIS motivations are. The fucker knows this reality is warped, so what does that mean for him? End it all with the MCs happiness, or prevent that and live out his days knowing he made someone a sad fag.
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>>2168963
“...Alright.”
With the conflicted Ryou and your little brother’s warning, you’ve decided to play along for now.
“I’m really not happy with this. I’d rather we explain the whole situation to Hanazawa...but I could somewhat see your logic. But we -will- eventually tell her, right?”
“Of course. Just for now, let’s keep it between the two of us.”
You nod. Something’s definitely not right with this scenario and her logic, but on the other hand, you're curious on where this goes.

“Then, class rep, what should we practice?”

>cont’d
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>>2169117
Well brother is an idiot who just wants a laugh so he can go finish that bag of dicks he's enjoying
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>>2169147
...that sentence amused me. Thanks.

Also I agree.
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>>2169147
I really don't think our brother is as big of a jerk as people are.making him out to be. Unfortunately, we don't get much time to interact with him to really find out what's going on inside his head.
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>>2169140
“The most important thing in dates is mood.” Ryou says. “Where you choose to take someone out on your date will define the mood you want going. If you want her excited and happy, an amusement park would be great. Something more intimate and romantic, maybe you take her to a nice restaurant. The most important thing is, you set the mood early.”
“Alright.”
“So then the first question is what do you want your mood with Hanazawa to be?”

You think. Hanazawa would be a girl--

>That would enjoy something thrilling.
>That would enjoy something more intimate.
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It would be propably too much expecting Ken to stand up and just walk away, wouldn't it?

If we can't talk through her, we can still avoid the issue by just leaving. This would both maintain the universe's balance and we wouldn't endanger our relationship.
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>>2169165
>>That would enjoy something more intimate.
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>>2169165
>>That would enjoy something more intimate.
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>>2169165
>That would enjoy something more intimate.
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>>2169165
>That would enjoy something more intimate.
Something that isn't quite on the levels of making out and the like, but simple hand holding, enjoying each other's being near and maybe reading some books. Course she also has some otakue habits like ourselves so I imagine she might enjoy some video games as well.
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>>2169165
>That would enjoy something more intimate.
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>>2169165
>i want the kind of mood that helps her gain more confidence in herself.
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>>2169176
This, basically. She doesn't strike me as someone who's really into stuff that's super romantic, but just stuff where we can chill and be together.
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>>2169165
This >>2169176
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>>2169165
>That would enjoy something more intimate.
I Really have a bad feeling about this
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>>2169197
Same. Hence the attempt at specification.
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>>2169165
>That would enjoy something more intimate in private
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>>2169165
“I think she’d enjoy something a bit more intimate.”
“Then let’s try to imitate that.” She fixes her seat, and leans in closer.

“Pretend for now that I’m Hanazawa.”
“...Eh?”
“What do you mean, ‘eh’? This is the practice. You have to treat me like your girlfriend so you know how you’ll act when it’s the real deal.”
“But still, isn’t there something wrong with this scenario?”
“It’s just pretend! Practice, Ken-kun, practice.”
“Still--”

“Ken-kun.” Ryou stops your words with hers. “Do you hate the idea of me playing your girlfriend that much? Even if it’s pretend? Even if I’m just playing the role of your real girlfriend?”

>It’s not like that.
>I don’t hate it.
>Why do you seem insistent on this?
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>>2169203
>>Why do you seem insistent on this?
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>>2169203
>Why do you seem insistent on this?
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>>2169203
>Why do you seem insistent on this?
>It's one thing to practice, its another when someone takes a picture and decides to try to black mail both of us.
>Talking about ideas is all well and good, implementing them for practice leads to weird places that I don't want to put you in that hurt your feelings.
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>>2169203
>Why do you seem insistent on this?
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>>2169203
>It’s not like that.
>Why do you seem insistent on this?
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>>2169214
THIS THIS THIS!
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>>2169203
>Why do you seem insistent on this
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>>2169203
>>Why do you seem insistent on this?
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>>2169210
>>2169214
Also supporting this
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>>2169214
>Why do you seem insistent on this?

Look, I've never had a girlfriend before, but I've heard of a lot of stories wear stuff like this happens and next thing you know there's hurt feelings and pain all around. I feel like I'm not being loyal to her already, and I just started going steady with her. I don't hate you, but I don't understand why you would even try to risk this, and I DO I kind of hate the feeling that I'm going behind her back and not for a good enough reason. Wanting to protect her from bullies is one thing. Going around with another girl, even if it's supposedly for her sake later, is another.

> I think this whole outing might have been a mistake, class rep. I don't want to think any less of you then the good friend that I know you are, regardless of whether or not it's accurate.
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>>2169203
This >>2169214
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>>2169232
This whole thing is supposed to be green text, I missed the arrow for the paragraph.
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>>2169203
>Why do you seem insistent on this?
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>>2169203
This >>2169214

Why do I feel like she'll suggest we find a more private place to practice so we don't get our picture taken?
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>>2169232
Supporting
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>>2169214
This.
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>>2169203
Ill switch from >>2169218
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It's really kind of frustrating that we can't actually just say ' you know, your kind of living up to your old nickname, and I don't think either of us want that' and have her back off, but of course we can't because that would be the smart thing to do. And we can't have that here.
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>>2169203
>>2169214
This
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>>2169232
This is also a plotline lifted straight from the show that Ryou is lifted from.
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>>2169232
Also clarifying. 'Whether or not it's accurate' is in reference to the lesser feelings.
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>>2169253
FUCK YOU I AM SAD NOW!
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>>2169203

Switching my vote from this
>>2169238

to
>>2169232
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>>2169232
backing
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>>2169203
>It’s not like that.
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>>2169266
https://youtu.be/zxPu6ZaWixk?t=2870
> Doing it in the park so brazenly
> Isn't he ashamed?
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>>2169203
“Why do you seem so insistent on this, class rep?”
“Isn’t it obvious? We’re not going to be able to practice properly if we don’t do a bit of role-playing, and--”
She’s fidgeting too much, and she won’t look straight at you either.

“Ryou.”
Your deep voice seems to have surprised her. Finally, she sighs and leans back on the booth.

“...It’s because I’m jealous.”
Ryou whispers a surprising statement.
“Ryou?”
“I’m jealous. I’ve liked Eiji for so long, and he never even looked at me any different. I’ve been violent, I’ve been clingy, I’ve been everything, Ken-kun. The only thing I’ve never been is loved.”
“Ryou…”
“Now all of a sudden you’ve become Hanazawa’s boyfriend. And you’re a great guy, Ken-kun. I just...want to play the part a bit too.”

She smiles. You both stay silent. You try to choose your words carefully.
“But what you’re proposing is...wrong. Yeah, it might be pretend and all but this path will only lead to hurt feelings, Ryou. I’m not Nakamura-san, and you’re not Hanazawa. This whole scenario even feels like I’m cheating on her already.”

“But you’re not.” Ryou says. “You’re not cheating on her, since this is all pretend. Others seeing us might misunderstand, but I could explain to Hanazawa what we are doing. And if you know the truth, and Hanazawa knows the truth, why do you have to care what others might think?”

>man-stealer

A random word pops up in your head.

“Holding hands...sitting shoulder to shoulder...being intimate...I’m not going to ask you for that much. I just want to know that feeling, Ken-kun.”
“But--”
“Ken. What do you think of me?”
“Huh?”
“Answer the question.”
“...I respect you a lot, class rep. I think you’re a great person, if sometimes a bit...misguided. But I look up to your leadership, and your determination.”
“How about as a girl?”
“...Ryou. I have a girlfriend.”
“I know. I’m just asking you what you think of me as a girl, no strings attached.”

You pause and think.
“...I think you’re beautiful, Ryou.”
“Thanks.” She smiles sadly. “I also think you’re great, Ken. I’m really grateful that you put up with me, and I really like how you’re so kind to me and Hanazawa. She’s a lucky girl.”

She stares at you. Her eyes are boring your vision, your soul. An intense sensation that makes your heartbeat raise. What is this feeling?

Hikaru Ryou. She’s strong, she’s beautiful, and yet she’s fragile. The class rep, your friend, and someone who’s always been ignored by her loved one.

You suppose...there’s no harm right?
Hanazawa will understand since she’s her friend, right?

Closer. Before you realize it, her face is getting closer to you. You’re frozen in place, seized by an inner force.

She approaches. She closes her eyes…

”Woooow, that’s pretty cool, miss.” Kei interjects. “You've set the mood expertly.”
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>>2169379
Is our personality being rewritten?
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>>2169379
goddamn it kei, fuck off!
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>>2169379
No, fuck that.
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>>2169379
WHY WOULD WE KISS IN PUBLIC, THANK YOU BROTHER
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>>2169379
Kei actually might've saved us here bois.
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>>2169390
Might be biased, but NOW I'm tempted to call railroading.
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>>2169379
Quickly, Ken!

Dodge this T H O T
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>>2169379
Is there a cont'd here or what cmon man don't hold us in suspense!

If this is where we need to act I would say we simply go for a hug. don't go for the kiss, sidevert and HUGE HUGS
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>>2169379
>Shove her away. Someone is messing with your head, Ken.
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>>2169404
Seems to me were no longer a mob and our personality is being rewritten to be a char for a love triangle drama

Is this the BADEND? being stripped of free will?
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>>2169420
i ran out of characters, sorry.
>cont'd
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>>2169431
If so, that wasn't even really a fun quest, then. Since it basically meant we had to follow the plot line no matter what at the end of the day save for small little differences.
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>>2169404
No shit?
>>2169379
This wasn't even close to the write in vote. The fuck man, are you going to actually play our character or let us do it? Make up your damn mind already. Fuck off with this railroading shit, either cut out write in votes entirely or actually fucking use them as they were written. This is getting really damn irritating to watch as you intentionally misdirect our will with the characters action.
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Jesus christ BSG what the fuck is with your ID
It's changing every friggin post
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>>2169440
Wait,wait, let's not jump the gun yet.
We may be able to make a choice still.
As unlikely as it is, there is hope.
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>>2169450

>BSG is some memetic consciousness that hijacks other anons and uses their computers to post updates

Though in all actuality he's probably resetting his modem or such a lot and it's fucking with the ID.
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>>2169457
We really should have been able to make a choice when she started leaning her head towards us, or when we had to decide whether kissing her was a good idea or not. Those seem like critical moments.
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how many SoL genre subbranch have we shifted
It started from Harem, Romcom, Supernatural, Romance to Drama real quick...what is next?
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>>2169440
Personally I haven't seen a problem yet. Things aren't going the eay we expect them to but I feel less like it's genuine railroading and more like those dialogue options in some video games.

There's already some kind of routes in place here, we're able to tweak them a bit but ultimately Ken has his own personality and it seems there IS some kind of mind fuckery going on here to boot, which has an in story reason why our attempts to more precisely control our movements seems to be hitting a snag.

Honestly a lot of this has been making it more interesting. I'd be fine with the write ins no longer being an option in most cases just because of this, but I wouldn't want them gone entirely, as sometimes we do manage to shift the tone a bit.
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>>2169467
>The game is real and we're all the mobs.
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>>2169457
We have been making choices that get overwhelming votes for, and they are ignored.
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>>2169480
the problem is, I feel in order to do this kind of thing successfully, you can't let write ins be a thing, otherwise you're subvertinf the will of the audience, which is a cardinal sin. You're taking control away from the players when you promised them control implicitly. Can you see how that would be taken badly?
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>>2169488
Personally I think the best QMs are the ones that manage to properly fit to the MC whatever wacky write-in are thrown their way.
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>>2169498
Yeah, but would you really call it fitting if the entire context and content is ignored wholesale?
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>>2169506
I'm not saying BSG is the best QM.
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>>2169536
Fair.
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>>2169379
Ryou pulls away. You look and see Kei standing there, sipping on his soda. The drink has run out, and now all you can hear is the sound of the straw trying to catch every last bit of liquid.

Ryou looks at Kei, while he on the other hand waves at her, smiling.
“Hello!”
“Who ar--”
“You’re being unfair, you know that, miss?”
“Wha--”
“I’m afraid he’s off limits right now. And you seem to be aware of it too.”

She’s staring at him, scared.
“What I’m saying is piss off, lady.”

She scrambles for her bag, and leaves without even looking at you. Kei sits down the seat opposite you, still grinning.
“Aww, she didn’t even finish her fries…”
“What the hell…” You don’t know what just happened, but you were dangerously close to making a mistake you would’ve regretted. “Kei.”

“Aren’t you glad I’m on your side, Aniki? I even had to revert to my old comedic role earlier...”

He grabs a napkin and pulls out a pen from his pocket.
He draws three circles, one inside the other, and then he starts labeling them.

The innermost circle, he labels [MC], the second, [SC], the third, [AMC] and [BMC].

Outside the circle, he writes [META].

“I’ve already told you that the most powerful being in this world is the [Main Character], and [Side Characters] and [Mobs] fall under them. What category do you think do you fall under, Aniki?”

“Mob, right?”

“...Well, I asked, but there isn’t an easy answer. You could say you’re a Mob, you could say you’re Meta, and it would both be correct and wrong. That’s why your presence is an enigma.
“But what happened earlier was different. You were this close to being the Man-stealer’s victim. That falls straight into here.” He points to the outermost circle. “A Mob story line. A mob guy who had a mob girlfriend who was pulled away by the class rep, which is referenced in a flashback while the MC is trying to save her.”

He leans back as he grabs another fry. “You were even losing agency fast. You were this close to being [Erased]. You’re welcome, by the way.”
>Why’d you tell me to play along, then?
>Why did this happen?
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>>2169543
>Why did this happen?
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>>2169543
>>Why’d you tell me to play along, then?
>>Why did this happen?
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>>2169543
>>Why did this happen?
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>>2169543
>>Why’d you tell me to play along, then?
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>>2169543
>Why’d you tell me to play along, then?
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>>2169543
>Why’d you tell me to play along, then?
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>>2169543
>Why’d you tell me to play along, then?
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>>2169543
>Why’d you tell me to play along, then?
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>>2169543
>>Why’d you tell me to play along, then?
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>>2169543
> for not playing along, or for playing too close? I didn't want to kiss her in the first place. But something else made me. And you need to get specific with this whole eraser thing and bad ends. You've been really dodgy on a lot of Concepts, and I'm going off of incomplete knowledge, which is why I'm doing all this crap. It's hard to trust you if I don't get full detail. Whatever you're up to, I can't help but be suspicious of it simply because you're not giving me all the information, and so I make my own judgments.
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I hate that I'm so late with this one. But no, we need to ask this guy absolutely everything. He keeps telling us to do stuff, and we have no real information why, just that something nebulously bad will happen. That's hard to take seriously because the concept is so ephemeral, so we unconsciously brush it off. We need something specific and detailed.
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>>2169543
Changing to this >>2169576
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>>2169543
>>Why’d you tell me to play along, then?
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>>2169576
Well, for Erasure I think it's clear. It isn't Erasure of yamada Ken, but rather, the Erasure of Us, who act in tandem with Ken to give him free will.
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>>2169596
I've considered that, but I still need absolute clarification. I don't like going off of half guesses.
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>>2169596
Especially because if that's the case, then we're clearly not all that powerful, regardless of a full agreement or not.
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I mean, think about what he just said. We are apparently in a flashback and we had no damn clue. At all. In story or out of story. You think that would be something that would seriously affect our choices.
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>>2169603
>>2169609
>>2169615
To be fair, we were never told that we were in anyway powerful to begin with. Merely that we had [Awakened] and were an anomaly.
Everything up until this point was experimentation to see how far we COULD influence as well as how far we SHOULD influence and if there would be any obstacles to that, which clearly we know now that there was.
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>>2169647
Back. >>2169615 here.

And true, but that still leaves us with rough answers of

Could= only somewhat
Should= very little

Which still isn't very fun.
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>>2169543
>why did this happen?

Also anyone know what [AMC] and [BMC] mean? Alpha Mobs and Beta Mobs?
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>>Why’d you tell me to play along, then?
>>Why did this happen?

“Why did you tell me to play along then?”
“Because you were dangerously close to going the other way.”
“Which is?”
“[BAD END].” He says the frightening words like it’s nothing. “Who knows what the class rep would do if you called Hanazawa-san, or kept on forcing her hand. I would have still tried to save you, but, well, that would be much harder.”
“What is [BAD END], Kei? You’ve never been clear on that one.”

He shrugs. “Because it’s a straightforward concept. Let me ask you, why do you want to give [Happiness] to the main character?”
“...To make up for my past.”
“In other words, a [GOOD END] right? Then the [BAD END] is the opposite. Sadness, emptiness, unfulfillment. Sometimes, even death.”

“Then why did this happen, Kei?”
“Because everything lined up. The parameters of a [Mob] who will become part of the man-stealer flashback is that he should have a [mob] girlfriend, and he has a modicum of attraction to the class rep. This would not have happened if you lack in any of those factors up there. But you do have a mob girlfriend. And you do have some feelings for the class rep.”

“Does that mean I would have to avoid her from now on if I want to continue in this world?”

“Eh? But wouldn’t that be contradictory, Aniki?”

”How will you grant her [Happiness] if you avoid her?”

(TO BE CONT’D)
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Hold on a tick, didn't he explicitly say Eiji was the main character?
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>>2169722
This fucker knows so much stuff we need to know it's sickening. We need to know his angle regardless of what it is. Whether it's altruistic and he just wants everyone to be happy or if its just sick fascination with what we will do in this strange world we've found ourselves in since we're Seemingly the only truly random variable in all this madness.
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>>2169730
Hm, nope.

Alright, BSG, fair dues. I got out-played to the next level on that one. Game isn't over yet, though, and there's still more than a couple problems.
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>>2169722
So basically we gotta either stop being attracted to her, or stop dating Hanazawa, in order to not qualify for the flashback route.

I doubt we can stop the former... Now if only we could get Hanazawa to understand the latter.

I *really* don't want to break up with Hanazawa though.
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>>2169749
The problem is that we, the players, AREN'T attracted to her. That's easy. The problem is that Ken IS.

And he and we are clearly not the same force.
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>>2169722
It should be fine if we minimize our alone time with her. She would be less likely to try something when Hanazawa or someone else is around.
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>>2169759
There's a number of 'obvious' solutions we could take, but I get the feeling they're invalid because 'reasons'.
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>>2169754
Not always, Like Kei pointed out we're a weird mix of Meta and Mob. We know shit is weird and we try to not fall to cliches but if a main character starts acting their trope then we change into a mob character used to support them in their story/character development.
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>>2169749
>tfw the mistake was ever loving a mob in the first place
>tfw you realize QM is trying to make you realize sometimes mobs just arent meant to have happiness
>tfw you know you're one of those mobs.

In all seriousness though I love this quest so much.
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>>2169765
I mean, yeah, the 'give up' route is simply to suffer through it all and make her happy and end the quest, but I dunno.

That's a boring-ass quest.
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>>2169763
Seems like basically we (the players) have control over the character unless we don't.

Honestly, that's annoying.
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>>2169763
The irony is, we may have helped Ryou down the line regardless of what happened to us just because we became her sob-story.
Speaking of which, does that mean we're on a time limit? Because if the event happens then there has to be a point where the MC becomes aware of it in her route right?
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>>2169771
Pretty much yeah. I enjoy it though since it adds a nice layer of helplessness. Also it keeps reminding us we're nobody and this isn't OUR story.
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>>2169780
I'm not a fan of it because it goes against the nature of quests, IMO, which is interactive and collaborative storytelling. I mean, I get the appeal for some, but I'm starting to think I'm getting in too deep and should bow out before I start to severely dislike. I'm not certain yet, and to be honest, knowing myself I'd still lurk just to see what happens, which wouldn't help much.
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That said, there's also an egotistical aspect to my not wanting to leave, which is the fact that like, 90% of the voted write-ins come from me on one IP or another. I'm probably not actually exaggerating much. It's nice to feel supported, but the quest this is just seems to not really mesh well with what I do.
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>>2169793
I feel like we could probably avoid a lot of these, I'll call them "Story Events", by thinking ahead and learning to abuse the system but A) Kei won't have a deep chat with us explaining the rules fully B) Thinking of plans are Hard C) Making dozens of voices with different agendas agreeing on a plan is even harder
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>>2169823
I generally have plans, and even the occasional curve balls that BSG throws don't disrupt them too much...it's just half the time he goes 'No' and either discounts my write-in's context and intention, or starts to write it in and then yanks control from Ken to make him do the stupid thing. My last write-in was proof of this- it in no way indicated that we wanted to kiss Ryou- in fact, the end of the write in was flat out 'maybe we should just cut this off right here', but he didn't like that and just...ignored it.

It makes me feel, honestly, like he did the quest a disservice by saying 'Yeah I take write ins' when...I don't feel like he does, unless he can pull a genie twist out of them.
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>>2169823
>>2169840
Basically, like I said earlier. It feels unfair and like he's going back on his word as a QM. It's really not that fun, for me.
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I've been thinking of what would happen if we befriended another girl from Eiji's Harem from the start. I wonder if they would have some sort of flaw that would use us as a way to further their development.For some reason I got some crazy Yandere vibes from Rinko.

Anyway, I've also been thinking that we might be in more of a Visual Novel world instead of an anime one, and that made me think that if we got a [bad end] the world would just reset and we'd live everything again, except this time we would experience another girl's route.

This is all just crazy speculation though.
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>>2169841
Pretty sure it's just Important characters exercising their power over us. I'm guessing you also brought this up and were the one that made the "It's just something friends do" Write in. When the main cast start exhibiting their tropes It's likely just going to go however the Universe wants their story to be regardless of any feelings we have or whatever we say.

Again one of the main themes is basically not being in control if it's interesting to the story. In the end of the day We're a prop to be used in telling a story and one of our BIGGEST task is to change that Either by getting the fuck away from all this story bullshit, which is doubt would get support since it sounds boring, or Becoming a Character and getting enough clout to be able to make our own choices when faced with other Characters.

I hope you stay long enough to help these bastards in breaking free and nudging them away from doing "Stupid Shit" like Anons are want to do.
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>>2169874
Yeah, I'm thinking that the only way we can shift the story is by becoming a [breakout character].

And the only way to do that is to become friends with important people. We can't be a [Mob] anymore if we want to do anything important long-term.

Time to move on up in the world, methinks.
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>>2169883
Problem with that is we as a character and every choice we've made so far just SCREAMS satellite character. We're friends with Ryou but my gut instinct is telling me that we're being set up as one of those Nameless boyfriend characters people have in sitcoms. The ones where you KNOW who the main couple are but they need to go through some other people first to pad the story have some character development.

We need to find a way of becoming our own character without being JUST Ryou's Friend or the guy Eiji sometimes hangs out with. We Need to find a trope and embody it, Play it up and somehow incorporate it into the story. I know Kei hates it but my personal vote is on the wacky, goofy supporting character. Only problem is those types are usually well loved but only because their taken in moderation in contrast to the main characters. Like Joey from friends
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I think we control Yamada, but like, the part of Yamada that's the 30 year old man who died in the snow. Yamada existed somewhat before then as a mob character (though unlike mobs like Hanazawa, who is an otaku, we had a completely undecorated bland room and no definite personality) and still exists somewhat as the teen mob character. It's like two people fused together, but we're only controlling one of those halves. Our actions are filtered through our mob character status, which van be pulled into the dynamic of any more important characters we interact with. We lose agency when Yamada is more mob character than reincarnated 30 year old,and if we get completely subsumed into a main character's backstory, we lose our agency and become just a mob, which is, for us, being [Erased].

Anyway.
>>2169722
I am really,REALLY loving this story. I'm itching to compile this quest into a novel so once it's finished (praying we manage to all stick around til a satisfying end) I could share it with some friends and family or just other internet people who might not otherwise get to read it.

Is that something you're okay with? This story is yours so I don't want to be trying to make it a novel if you don't want me to.
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>>2169903
Isn't that what that one perverted dude is though the comedy act whose our neighbor?

Why don't we just become the [Rival] whose acting against the Mc's interests just by virture of being better at something than he is or something not openly antagonostic, but like Nakamaru finishes with a goal but then we get the block on the winning point or something.
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>>2170096
Cause nobody likes us and if we start shit especially against nice guy Kaiji then the collective will COLLECTIVELY beat the living shit out of us and make our lives hell for disrupting the balance.
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I think I've come up with an idea just crazy enough that it might work.

Self inflicted brain damage, now before you call me off my rocker, there's reason for this. We clearly don't have much control over Ken, hell, he doesn't have a personality that he really sticks with, making his behavior unpredictable.

The general idea is that we do controlled damage to a part of Ken's brain, changing his personality into something easier to predict and far more fun to work with.


Is this idea legitimately retarded? Yes. It's very much so. Do I think it can get us places? Even moreso. It's just how we gain further control over Ken by molding him into something we know about early.

A far less extreme measure, which I think we should try before this other idea, is to push the NEET's personality onto Ken. Mannerisms, hobbies, the whole package. To live, and keep the world alive, we need to "kill" Ken's personality and replace it with our own.
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>>2170145
>summon Persona
>world resets
>we are in a Nitroplus-esque horror world next
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>>2169862
How interesting
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>>2170102
Then become better than the entirety of the collective themselve, it's not hard when thier so petty.
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>>2170301
Easier said than done. Last time we got trapped in a stall and got shit dumped on us and those three weren't even close to the amount of people in the Collective which I'm pretty sure is most of the school including some teachers.
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>>2170320
I'm just saying hard work and good planning go a long way
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>>2170340
They do if you can get the voices to agree. I'm not saying we can't beat them sooner or later but it'll be a long and hard road. As the player I'm sure we're going to get our happy ending sooner or later but I'm a pessimist that believes we'd probably have to go through a lot of shit first and you people make it sound so easy.
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>>2170320

With that in mind, it would seem our immediate goal would be building SOCIAL LINKS and making FRIENDS. We could start out with joining a club or two that the protag isn't in--maybe Drama or Martial Arts or Wood Shop. It'd be a good idea to make a bro out of Nakahara, too-that girl's ferocity makes her a powerful ally. We need bodies on our side--something to turn public opinion from being some unlikable shitheel to a swell dude on campus.

Or if you wanna be a SUPER-EDGELORD and act first on the Collective we could stage a school shooting--but this being Podunk Small Town, Japan, I wouldn't know the first thing about obtaining the proper licensure for a gun or even what sort of armaments would be accessible to us, if any.
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>>2170354
Nakahara was the delinquent right? Allying with her might actually make the collective hate us even more. Both her and Ryou said so.

If Nakahara was one of the MCs then that poses a problem in of itself since the reason the collective hate us is because sidling up with the Cool Kids/MCs after being basically a nobody.

Joining a club and showing these people we aren't just an ass kisser then gaining their approval might be for the best but I dunno. Once we're liked enough we can tell them about Hanazawa and reduce their hate some more by showing we're not interested in the girls. I'm always wary of plans falling through or the Universe somehow screwing us over

I'm afraid of Rinko and that she might try something if she realizes we're meddling. But then again I'm terrified of little Anime girls just in general
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>>2170354
Don't forget Nakahara is a Side Character too. Who knows what kinds of plots we could get dragged into if we get close to her.
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>>2170585
Fun ones
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>>2170592
Don't deliquents get plots where they leave their lifestyle after their friends get seriously hurt? Or plots where they have to avenge their friends?
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>>2170598
All above but usually they keep them as the ass kicker with a soft heart.
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>>2170598

Yes to both--and to plots involving dealing with badasses from other schools invading the school grounds and causing trouble, eventually escalating to knife fights after school by the riverbank, with both participants bound at the wrist.

HOnestly, I think people are getting too caught up in their Shadowruns trying to predict what plots may or may not happen. There's too many variables to see what plot we get if we decide to go a certain route until we're well on our way into the plot. All this Shadowrunning is doing is paralyzing us with indecision as we fear every single move with any girl will end in the worst possible manner. There is a time to be careful, sure, but at this point speed of action and adaptability on the go are more important attributes to focus on.

We mustn't let our fear of [BAD END]-ing ourselves dictate our actions so readily.
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>>2170660
>There's too many variables to see what plot we get if we decide to go a certain route until we're well on our way into the plot
True, but we can predict broad tendencies. And the broad tendency of delinquent-involving plots is violence. And since the delinquent themselves has to be able to continue with the plot, the worst of the violence is suffered by their friends.
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This is probably one of my favorite quests since Log Horizon Quest way back in the /tg/ days
Nothing says fun like making every player so paranoid that the thread ends up with more shadowruns than waifu wars
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We can't ignore her but we can't give in to her
We should join something like a boxing or MMA club, get /fit/ and become ejii buff bro who's living a happy life,has a girlfreind, and is a good person to go to for romance advice
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>>2170688
Go full Harem Bro?
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>>2170667
This. There's no point in rushing straight into problems where we need to be saved by our brother just because. This world has a very special set of parameters that we have to operate in or we risk being subsumed by our inner [mob]. Each of these [MC] genres/plots have specific roles for their [mob] characters, and if we just blindly run into one, thinking that we can exert our will on this Harem Universe (That we arent the [MC] of, mind) we're going to get our shit slapped by the powers that be, as has already happened, and next time we may not have an out by way of our brother because a bunch of anons think that being a hardass with this universe that can very clearly bend perceptions and wills is a good idea.
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>>2170667
Yeah we're just thinking of the future like this guys says. This world is obviously working on a set of rules and even though people SOMETIMES exhibit everyday behaviour and are not complete Characters, A lot of the main cast still play up their tropes if it's interesting to their story/character development. We need to keep predicting patterns because at this moment fear and indisisiveness isn't our problem, being blind sided by the universe when we think everything is going well is.
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In the context of an anime, i wonder what the viewers think just happened
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>>2170810
I don't know about this scene, but the one where Kei warned us while pretending to help an old man was comedy gold.
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>>2170810
Probably nothing because the anime would focus on Eiji's side.
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>>2171028
Our brother implyed that rin is the main character
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>>2171031
Class rep
Just got done watching fate so rin was still fresh in my mind
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>>2171050
>Mixing up the pure Rin with the dirty Man-stealer
Rin is Class S and Ryou doesn't even wear stockings.
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>>2171079
Kek
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Running in a bit
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>>2171102
Oh shit
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“How will you grant her [Happiness] then?”

You sit and stare at your little brother, Kei, who is licking his thumbs while smiling mischievously.

“But I thought it was the [Main Character]’s happiness that I have to solve?”
“You’re right. And so am I. We’re both right, really.”

He reaches for the napkin again, and points to the innermost circle.

“Doesn’t it make sense that the girls also belong here? Aren’t they [Main Characters] as well?”

Now that you think about it...the girls are indeed part of the [Main Characters]. They do not fit anywhere else in the hierarchy of things.

But then…

>”Are the girls as powerful as Nakamura Eiji?”
>”Do I have to grant [Happiness] for all of them?”
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>>2171158
Oops forgot my trip
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>>2171158
>”Are the girls as powerful as Nakamura Eiji?”
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>>2171158
>”Do I have to grant [Happiness] for all of them?”
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>>2171158
>>”Do I have to grant [Happiness] for all of them?”
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>>2171158
>”Do I have to grant [Happiness] for all of them?”
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>>2171158
>>”Are the girls as powerful as Nakamura Eiji?”
>>”Do I have to grant [Happiness] for all of them?”

>"What if I could change their definition of [Happiness]? Just humor me."
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>>2171158
>”Do I have to grant [Happiness] for all of them?”
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>>2171158
Hold on now, the girls are [Side Characters] Because you only have flashbacks and cut offs to them. The story mainly circles around the center of the harem.
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Like I said before a while back, I think that this whole thing, regardless of position, could be a lot easier if they could be convinced that Eiji wasn't integral to their happiness. Of course, we'd be helped by NOTICING when we've gone back in time or some shit...
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I mean, say what you will, but it's not exactly uncommon that a girl in the race throws in the towel and still ends up happy.
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>>2171219
That's the problem though, we had no cue that we we're in a flashback other than the brief change in pov.
You could say, well we can't be in the past and the present,but when was the last time you saw the same mob in two places and thought," how the fuck did that happen?"
Effectively, because of our status as a mob, we can't see the forest from the trees.
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>>2171233
We weren't in a flashback though, in the sense that we didn't go to the past. We were in a situation that would be shown in a flashback later.
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>>2171233
I don't think we went back in time, so much as just gained a role meant to be part of Ryou's backstory later on. The flashback was something Eiji/The Viewers would witness later or whatever, but we didn't actually go back in time.
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>>2171158
“Then...Do I have to grant [Happiness] for all of them?”
“Not really,” he picks up his pen again and draws another circle in the innermost portion. “Even if the girls are of the same tier, the protagonist is still the one to whom this universe is made for.”
“What does that mean?”
“It means that solve his [Happiness] and tada! Mission accomplished.”

“...So what’s the point of the other’s [Happiness] then?”
“Well...we’ve talked about [GOOD END]s and [BAD END]s before. Achieving his [Happiness] is a [GOOD END].
“However! All the guys that belong to here,” he points to the [SC] and [MC] circles, “They have their own stories to tell. They want to achieve [Happiness] in some shape or form. If you grant them all that.”

He smiles, almost dream-like.

“[TRUE END]. Ahh.”

>What’s [TRUE END]?
>Why don’t you clarify what [Happiness] is?
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>>2171158
>>”Do I have to grant [Happiness] for all of them?”
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>>2171252
>Why don’t you clarify what [Happiness] is?

I guess true end is something uper duper cool or something
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>>2171252
>Did you mean [BEST END]? I've seen some pretty depressing [TRUE END]s.
>Why don’t you clarify what [Happiness] is?
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>>2171233

>>2171261
Nice catch. Going with this. We're a NEET, we'd know.

Also, again:
>Can I change or influence what their [Happiness] might be?
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>>2171252
>>What’s [TRUE END]?
>>Why don’t you clarify what [Happiness] is?
Both really good questions, I'll hazard a guess that [TRUE END] is when all characters, side or main, have achieved thier [Happiness].

I think our life would be easier if we just told the world to fuck itself. Though that would probably cause [Erasure] anyway.
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>>2171252
>>2171271

Whoop, wrong link.
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>>2171252
This >>2171261
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>>2171252
>>What’s [TRUE END]?
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>>2171252
“There’s a difference between ‘true ends’ and best ends’, Kei. Are you sure you’re--”

“I’m aware, Aniki. Though in my opinion the [TRUE END] IS the ‘best end’ already...well, some might disagree.”
“Some?”
He winks and waves it off. “If you grant the happiness of the [Side Characters] and the [Main Characters], then you could see the [TRUE END] of this universe.”

He sighs and stares off to somewhere, bored. “But then again, it’s a big pain in the ass. You *could* choose to live your life like before, or never interfere, but the universe has its ways.”

You stare at your half eaten burger. All this new information has quelled your appetite for food now.

“Then...what is [Happiness], Kei?”
“Most of these characters, Aniki, harbor deep wounds. The MC’s carry the deepest. You’ve already seen the class rep. Though it’s not my story to tell, the wounds from being called ‘man-stealer’ still bleeds ‘til this day. The others have similar doubts, insecurities, fears, traumas.”
“And the way to solve them is…”
“Love~” He does a cool pose while winking. “Ok, not always, but because it’s love most of the time, might as well think it’s that way.”

A few moments of silence goes in between you two. You feel that Kei is about to leave once more. You ask…

>Why are you helping me?
>Could I trust you?
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>>2171325
>So it might be possible to shift their ideas of [Happiness] into something focused other than Eiji?

I'm gonna ride this issue til I get an answer.

Also noticed he didn't actually answer the question because BSG shifted the phrasing, which is important. Guess he doesn't want us to know.

>What do YOU want from all this?
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>>2171325
>What is your True end?
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>>2171325
>What do YOU want from all this?
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>>2171325
>What do YOU want from all this?
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>Why are you helping me
Asking if we can trust him is just going to lead to him either spinning it in such a way that doesnt really answer us but wastes our question. May as well see if we can discern a motive
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>>2171325
>Why are you helping me?
>Why do you want the universe to end?
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I mean, I know he's gonna give us a one-word cryptic answer or some shit, but I'm hoping that'll give us at least a hint. It's clear we're supposed to kinda stumble through this whole thing without actually knowing shit. If he or BSG wanted us to make informed decisions, he'd have given us information.
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>>2171325
“You’ve been helping me all this time, but I’ve never understood your reasons. What do *you* get out of all this?”

He laughs, and for the first time maybe ever, you see in his eyes a forlorn expression.

“I might be outside of the circle, Aniki, but I’m still part of the napkin that is this universe. Despite me acting out of my duties, my essence is still hard-wired to achieve the [Happiness] of the protagonist. Maybe I’m just living vicariously through you?”

He chuckles and stares at you, melancholy emanating from him.
“That doesn’t mean I’m forced to fight for his [Happiness]. It’s something I truly want myself. But I don’t want to do it as a funny [Meta] throwaway character. So you appearing, Aniki, is my new hope.

“Listen. [Happiness] doesn’t revolve around Nakamura Eiji. Don’t even think about it. [Happiness] revolves around love, Aniki. That’s the only thing that matters.

“So to answer your question? Why am I helping you?"

He grins.

“It’s because I want [Happiness] too.”

Before you could reply, Kei starts to exit the booth.

“Later, Aniki. See you when I see you.”

But just before he disappears, he turns around.

“Want my last piece of advice, Aniki?”
“What is it?”

“Hanazawa isn’t a [Side Character]. She’s just some random [Mob].”

>cont’d
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>>2171403
>“Hanazawa isn’t a [Side Character]. She’s just some random [Mob].”

I don't think we've ever thought of her as a side character? Is he telling ud that she's not particularly special, and all the other random mobs are just as detailed or real as people, or...

>“If you grant the happiness of the [Side Characters] and the [Main Characters], then you could see the [TRUE END] of this universe.”

Is he telling us that Hanazawa's happiness doesn't matter? Dating her IS half the reason we triggered Ryou's Manstealer route, after all. Is he trying to encourage us to make a painful decision, or is he curious if we'll hold her happiness to the same level of importance as the Main and Side Characters?
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>>2171403
Well fuck you lil' bro. We'll make Hanazawa happy anyway.
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>>2171403
We're a [Mob] to so I don't see the problem
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>>2171403
It’s gotten dark out when you left the fast food place. You never saw Kei nor the class rep since then. With the cool breeze of the night spring air, you shiver a little. Hating the cold, you decide to jog the rest of the way home.

“I’m home.”
“Welcome back, Ken.”

It isn’t your dad that answers your house call.
“Mom. You’re back from your trip?”

Your mother is standing in the doorway, observing you while you remove your shoes.
“Where have you been?”
“I’ve been eating with friends.”
“I thought I told you to stop meeting them.”
“Er, I meant I was out with Kei.”
“Kei’s in Tokyo.”
“Er...co-workers?”

She sighs, arms still locked in a cross.
“If you’re not lying anymore, at least you found yourself a job. Come with me for a second, Kei.”

You follow your mother into the living room.

On the couch, you find a sleeping figure covered with a blanket.

Hanazawa.

“Your father said that she has been waiting for you since this afternoon. Care to explain?”

>She’s my girlfriend.
>She’s my friend.
>She’s a classmate.
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>>2171403
Well I'm at least convinced now that'll lil bro can be trusted not to fuck us over.
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>>2171450

>She’s my girlfriend.
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>>2171450
>I didn't know she'd come over.
>She’s my girlfriend.
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>>2171450
>>2171459
also we should probably apologize for making Hanazawa wait so long.
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>>2171450
>She’s my girlfriend.
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>>2171450
>She's my girlfriend.
>Wasn't expecting her, though.

Okay, so. Just to see. Apparently we lose our free will whenever the Main Characters want us to do something, subconsciously or not. So write-ins are next to useless in those cases.

On the other hand, when dealing with normal [Mob] stuff, we're lucid and can actually behave intelligently.
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>>2171470
Seems like it, which makes trying to help out Class rep a nightmare because of her Man-stealer protocols that kick in for the route.
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>>2171450
>She’s my girlfriend.
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>>2171450
Supporting >>2171453
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>>2171470
>>2171478
I think its gradual. Back when she was asking us to help her win, it was clear she wanted us to help her, but the decision still came down to us deciding. I think its more that that can bend our [mob]self in certain cicumstance that have to do with their major flaws/archtype/whathave you. Class Reps Man-Stealer role didnt activate affect us and the universe until now, which specifically is involving our relationship with Hanazawa and whatever feelings we have for her, but didnt activate outside of these conditions. We just have to avoid triggering this again. Presumably, the other girls have their own triggers and will sublimate our will. That being said, im going with
>>2171459
>>2171461
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>>2171478
What about we try to make Hanazawa or fighter girl help us?

We can´t tell them about the nature of the Universe, bu we can comment that Ryou has a trauma from when she was bullied and she needs help. Maybe they can get us into contact with people who may be able to help.

Additionally, looking into the especifics of the bullying and Ryou´s boyfriends might give us some kind of pointers about how to handle this situation.

We can always try to make the student pres search for professional help (probably from a psychologist). While it seems that the theme of the anime is "Love solves all problems", it seems credible for the creators to be aware enough to include an addenum to that aesop that reads: But when things are very, very fucked up, professional help is invaluable.
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>>2171470
I don't think it depends on the Main Characters wanting something. Ryou's will was similarly overwritten.

>>2171521
There are no therapists in fictionland.
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>>2171478
That's just annoying as shit. The only way to avoid losing our free will is to not be alone with her, but it's obvious that'll cause Ryou to regress in terms of personality.

I think taking this job wasn't a good idea. I dunno, maybe staying in the back kitchen area will help, but.

Ugh. At least he did answer: "[Happiness] doesn’t revolve around Nakamura Eiji. [Happiness] revolves around love..."

Which means, theoretically, it might be possible to shift her priorities as to who or WHAT to love. As was said, though, she's jealous of us. Which leads everything into a loop, at first glance. She thinks that the way to get her love, and thus, her happiness, is through Eiji. I'm willing to contest that, but the question is how.

Her problems are jealously and a low self-esteem, and she combines and manifests these problems through an overwhelming desire to take someone else's boyfriend when she's aware of it- I'm fairly sure what's going on in her head is something along the lines of 'well, most boys who are unattached don't like me, but maybe if I can at least make myself look better than their girlfriend for NOW, I'll be worth something!" Or something like that, it's hard to describe. I also think this is why she strove for Class Representative- a way of affirming her worth to herself.

So...I think maybe her big issue could be solved by working through her self-esteem issues. The question is, how? We CANNOT take a hand in them personally, we're going to have to act via proxy. Which, she wanted us to do with Eiji, but I don't know if that'll end up healthy. I think before she learns to love anyone else, she needs to learn to love herself.

But fuck, the easiest way to do that would be to, y'know, actually do psychological stuff to assist her. But that's too smart and psychologists don't exist in anime world. Ideally, I'd suggest we stage a sort of sitdown and intervention, and discussion of her issues calmly and rationally. But again, that's too obvious and too smart for anime/VN world to allow.

So, we need to do the stupid thing and either help her succeed in her winning the Eijibowl, or set her up with someone else.

Working out how, though.
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>>2171450
You’ve decided to answer her truthfully.

“She’s my girlfriend. I didn’t know she was waiting for me though.”

You brush past your mother and kneel by her, stroking the hairs out of her face, kind of like how she does it for you.

“Is that so.”
“Yes. So even if you’re against it--”
“Do you love her?”
“...What?”
She doesn’t reply, and instead waits for your answer.
“...’Love’ is a...strong word. It’s too early to say. But I do like her a lot. I treasure her.”

Your mother continues to stare at you. Then…
“Who am I to stop that then? Take care of her, Ken.”
You hear your mom walk away.
“Wait! So you’re not--”
“I still don’t want you associating with any others,” she says. “But she seems like a fine girl. Treat her well.”
She starts to walk away.
“Where are you going, mom?”
“To the bedroom. So she could stop pretending she’s asleep.”

Thud!

You hear a noise from behind you.
It’s Hanazawa. She’s covering her face with both hands, red from ear to ear.
“...How did she know…?”

>cont’d
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>>2171521
Not a bad idea, as far as professional help goes though, I don't how you would go about suggesting it or proving it to be a problem that requires assistance In-Universe or In-Meta however you wanna look at it.
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>>2171537
kek, mom is 3gud at your anime antics.
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>>2171538
Like me and >>2171534 said, therapy isn't a thing in fiction unless it's a serious drama/medical piece. Presumably because a character getting honest psychological help and it WORKING would remove a great deal of dramatic tension/negate the plot. Which, really, it shouldn't, if you have any knowledge of actual therapy, but, meh, most writers don't.
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>>2171535
Maybe we should get Mom to talk with Ryou and teach her the way to self-confidence. They're both tsunderes, which makes them have like half-identical personalities as far as anime world is concerned.
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>>2171570
Maybe we should add "Look for therapists" to our list of shit we gotta find out exists or not here. Although I won't be surprised if they don't exist.
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>>2171572
Agreed.

>>2171582
Also agreed. Worth a looksee. Hell, we could probably do that nowish. Although I do wonder after that just what it would take to actually GET her to one.
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>>2171589
We could make her fall in love with a therapist, then it will wor out even if therapists are normally useless!
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>>2171537
Hanazawa is a precious cinnamon roll, we cannot break her heart.
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>>2171589
Maybe we can sort of "strongarm" her into it?

We could for example, pay a session in advance after subtly dropping hints or talking about her problems. That way she might feel obligued to go and try to make something from the time with the therapist.

It is a kind of emotional manipulation, but she has serious problems and refuses to acknowledges them.
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It should always be noted, I feel. Although we probably shouldn't any time soon:

We don't HAVE to do all this, by all accounts. Every time we've talked to bro, he's said 'You COULD just say fuck it and let things play out however'.

So if things DO get too hot to handle, we can retreat from the situation for some time and see how things shake out. Maybe pick our spot later to get re-involved.
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>>2171608
Brother's said that we can't let on that we know when she's trying to get man-stealery.

That said, I think we can, at the very least, use what she said earlier as justification for suggesting the concept to her, if only out of general concern.
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>>2171537
You prepared a cup of tea for Hanazawa and are now talking in the dining room.
“I was talking to your dad when I got here, but he left to do some errands and I fell asleep. By the time I woke up, your mom just arrived and it was way too awkward to do anything…”

She’s still blushing a bit. Probably not from the warmth of the tea.

“Sorry for making you wait.”
“No, sorry for not telling you I’m coming over.”
“Why did you come, anyway? I mean, not that I’m against it, but--”

She shakes her head, smiling. “I was just worried. From earlier today. It’s fine now, though.”
“And why is that?”
“Well, you’ve had a talk with Hikaru-san, right?”
“...How did you know that?”

She brings out her phone and hands it to you. “I just got it a few minutes ago.”

To: Hanazawa
From: Hikaru Ryou

I met with Ken-kun a while ago. Sorry, Hanazawa.

“She doesn’t really have to say sorry...I already know you two are close.” She sighs, while hiding away her phone.
“Hanazawa…”
“So did you talk it out?”

What are you going to say?

>Do not involve her any further with Ryou. You must protect her.
>Tell her the events of earlier. She should know.
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Okay, hold on, lemme write this out.
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>>2171631
aight ill wait.
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>>2171626
>"We had...well, yeah, we talked. And some things happened. I wouldn't call them good, but what happened...makes me think Ryou needs professional help. Not that she's crazy, though. I think she's sad, and uncertain, and maybe a bit desperate, and she's going about it in a bad way that I don't think she even realizes she's doing. I think this has been happening for a while, too, which is why she's so bent on wanting Eiji. I think she needs to learn to love herself first, though...'cause I don't think she does at all."

>"Think you can help me out with this? Ryou deserves it, I feel. I need to see if there's any therapists around."
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>>2171626
Wait, how did she check her phone a few minutes ago when she was pretending to be asleep at the time?
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How's that one strike you guys? I kept it vague in detail, but specific in intent, so there's no 'whys' that can be inferred, just the end goal.
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>>2171654
>>2171626
Let's try this.
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>>2171662
It's honestly not that hard to sneak a peek at your phone, especially if you have message previews up.
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>>2171626
supporting >>2171654
>>2171665
Maybe we should aim it more towards wanting to help Ryou's self-confidence, but this works pretty well for now.
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>>2171654
>>2171626
This is quite sensible. I support it.
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>>2171626
supporting >>2171654
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>>2171450
>She’s my girlfriend.>>2171626
>Tell her the events of earlier. She should know.
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>>2171626
>Tell her the events of earlier. She should know.

Although I really hope she'll believe us when we confess something really weird id going on and we weren't ourselves when we nearly kissed. She's an Otaku, right? Explain that this world seems to be like some kind of anime or VN, maybe she'll trust us?
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Actually, yeah, I'm going to clarify- that write in is NOT 'Tell her everything.' That write in is very specific in its wording for a reason.
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>>2171626
Ill try my hand at a write-in
>"Early Ryou tried to take me on a mock-date on the premise that she was using it to help me practice dating you. I was really uncomfortable with it and told her as much but she really insisted so I went with it for a bit. Later on she tried to kiss me when we got interrupted and then she got embarrassed and ran off. She said she felt slightly jealous of the fact that we were a couple since she hasn't been able to get with Eiji yet."
Basically telling the events but in a way so it seems more like Class Rep regrets what she tried doing.
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>>2171709
I don't think that comes off as 'she regrets it'. There's no indication of emotion aside from jealously and embarrassment.

That, and I was hoping that this could be a thing Ryou eventually nuts up about and tells Hana herself as a moment of character growth.
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>>2171724
Her texting "I'm sorry" is her regretting it so maybe work that in as for why she's texting Hanazawa.


But getting away from that to a degree I think we should try to get Hanazawa to be the one helping out Ryou in person while we work on getting close to Eiji and then using that to organize a way to get Eiji and Ryou together.
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>>2171626
I'll go with this>>2171709 just because i feel we're going from 0 to 100 after a single encounter of this problem only because we are aware of her reality bending powers when in universe its not that bad yet.
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>>2171733
It's possible. But we still shouldn't forget the other girls. We need to talk with Oujo about what her devil deal is going to be.
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Hey wait, I doubt the Man Stealer route activates when Ryou is with us AND Hanazawa. Maybe as long as all three of us interact together we'll be fine?
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>>2171734
'Man-stealer' is a known nickname, remember? That's where the concern lies.

>>2171739
It's a theory I've had. Might be worth experimenting.
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>>2171739
Probably, although that'd require some testing to see how exactly it works.
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>Write in

“...We talked, yeah. And some things happened. I wouldn't call them good, but what happened...makes me think Ryou needs professional help. Not that she's crazy, though. I think she's sad, and uncertain, and maybe a bit desperate, and she's going about it in a bad way that I don't think she even realizes she's doing. I think this has been happening for a while, too, which is why she's so bent on wanting Eiji. I think she needs to learn to love herself first, though...'cause I don't think she does at all."

You stare up the tea cup to see a solemn and quiet Hanazawa.
“Would you happen to know if there are any therapists around? I think the class rep deserves it.”

She’s staring at her tea, thinking.
“...I don’t think there is such a high class doctor here in Yumegawa. Maybe in Tokyo, and even then, aren’t those places really expensive?”
“Yes, but if it’s for her sake--”
“Also, Ken, please think about this.” There is sadness in the tone of her voice. “I know where you’re coming from. Believe me, I know. But I feel like, to her, going to a therapist may look like an admission of defeat.”
“But it’s not--!”

“Indeed. It’s not. But others will think that way. You know the stigma, Ken. And to someone who loves helping others...for others to lose trust in her for something out of her control...that would tear her apart.”

>[BAD END]

The word pops into your mind. Your chest gets even heavier.

“Then...Hanazawa, what should I do?”

She smiles, and reaches out her hands to grasp yours.

“I could see how much you really care for her, Ken. That determination to rescue a friend in times of need, ignoring everything else...I’m falling in love all over again.”
You feel your face grow hotter. She giggles.
“I think, though, that you’re being too drastic about this. You underestimate your capacity to help her too much. I really believe that if anyone could rescue class rep, it won’t be some expensive therapist in Tokyo. It would be you."

>[GOOD END]

You smile, and squeeze her hand in yours.
“...I love you, Hanazawa.”
She giggles, blushing a fierce red as well.
“Isn’t ‘love’ too strong a word?”
“Well, yeah, but, erm…”

She smiles magnanimously, and squeezes back.
“I love you too.”

“Well then, shall I take you home?”
“Mm.”

You stand up to grab her things from the living room.
Before you leave, you glance back at Hanazawa.

Who for some reason, sports a complicated expression.

>cont’d
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>>2171733
I believe that Ryou´s problems are her own self-esteem issues. She needs to work on those before she proposes to the MC.

I mean, she is devoted to him. A rejection, if this anime wants to sunk to even greater depths of bleakness, might even push her into suicide.

The foremost person she has to love is herself, not some sort of idealized obsession.
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>>2171750
>Who for some reason, sports a complicated expression.
uh oh
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>>2171755
alright fair enough, I'm still kinda spitballing ideas atm.
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>>2171750
BSG, please don´t make Hanazawa an all powerful eldritch entity whose sole porpoise is to enforce the rules of the Universe
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Can't say I'm too surprised the suggestion got 'No'd', but just...fuck.

The entire problem is that she goes Man-stealer and we can't just say 'hey, cut it out, you're doing the thing'. So Hanazawa's working on incomplete logic ANYWAY.
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>>2171764
The whole man-stealer thing could easily be her wanting an emotional connection, which therapists would never really provide.
Honestly this simply confirms that we need to be involved more directly in helping her even if we don't pursue her romantically.
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>>2171778
I'd agree with you, if not for the one problem, again, of her subverting our mental state for her own purposes. In the state she's in right now, an 'emotional connection' would literally be 'dating her behind Hanazawa's back'.
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>>2171750
>Who for some reason, sports a complicated expression.
...Maybe it wasn't a good idea to tell her.
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>>2171778
>>2171785
Remember, we, THE PLAYERS, would not get a say in it- it'd be QM fiat, much like how earlier Ken wanted to kiss her all of a sudden, rationalizing that 'it can't be that bad, can it?' when all the players thought it was a horrible idea.
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>>2171778
Clearly we need to devise some kind of anti "Man-Stealer protocol" strategy.

The Anti "Man-Stealer Protocol" Protocol if you will.
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>>2171750
Morning. After what seemed like an eternity…

“Oh, Nii-san, long time no see!”

You once again meet with your [Mob] jogging mate, Murakami Saya.

“Yo. Been a while.”

She slows down her pace and waits for you to catch up.

“Hehehe.”
“What is it?”
“In the time you’ve been gone, I’ve been practicing a lot. I bet I can even beat you in a competition now, Nii-san.”
“Ara,” Has your pupil grown arrogant in the time that you’re gone? “Pride comes before a fall, Murakami. Are you challenging me?”

You’re really not much better than Murakami though...And you even took a break from jogging…

“Of course! In fact, Nii-san, feel free to pick the competition!”

>Marathon. First who drops loses.
>A classic sprint race.
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>>2171796
As far as I can guess, that Protocol would be 'don't be alone with Ryou under any circumstances'.
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>>2171799
>>A classic sprint race.

I have no idea what this has to do with anything, and that fact worries me greatly, but I was a sprinter on the track team in high school, so that's why I'm voting for this.
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>>2171799
>Marathon. First who drops loses.
Endurance training best training.
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>>2171799
>Marathon. First who drops loses.
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>>2171799
>A classic sprint race.
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>>2171799
>Marathon. First who drops loses.

>>2171801
That is a good start but we also need to consider that we were backing away too violently and that could have also influenced the bending of our will, maybe try to go for skirting romance without going in too deep or backing away hard enough
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>>2171799

>Marathon. First who drops loses.
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>>2171812
I've considered that too, I just made a judgement call at the time. We wouldn't be cutting off contact with her, at any rate. We just make sure we're around someone when we talk to her for longer than a few minutes.

I entirely disagree with the 'skirting romance' thing, though. Too many chances for mixed messages with Ryou.
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>>2171812
Maybe we can "Eiji" it and just be a thick idiot through it all. I doubt it though, I think avoiding being alone with her is the best policy for now.
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Marathon 4:2 Sprint
>Writing.
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>>2171079
Don't you have some old men to please Tohsaka-San?
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>>2171799
“Let’s test your endurance then, Murakami. A jog, usual route, guy who drops out first buys the other drinks.”
“Deal!”

And with that, you start the marathon competition.
Since you’re not engaging in an all out sprint race, you find yourself having a conversation going with Murakami.

“Where do you study, Murakami?”
“Isn’t it obvious? I’m a first year at St. Agace.”
“Whoa, you really are younger than me…”
“You’re just an old man, Nii-san. Accept that your knees will give up eventually and give the win already!”
“...Geh.”

You don’t really have a comeback after such a pinpoint insult.

“How’s school?” You change the topic instead.
“It’s…”
A strange pause.
“It’s great actually. I have a lot of friends.”
She’s not lying, you figure, but something tells you it’s not the whole truth either.
“Ehh. Then why don’t you invite them instead of an old man like me?”

She laughs. “None of them live in this part of town, though…”
You have a feeling that’s not all there is, but you decide not to push it.
“Hey, Nii-san.”
“Yes?”
“I’ve been meaning to ask, and I don’t want to be rude, but...”

“Are you really a Gomasuri?”

>Where did you hear that from?
>What do you think?
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>>2171865
>"Nah. Just someone who give a crap about people."
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>>2171865
>"Nah. Just a guy tryin' to do the right thing, who also likes jogging."
>"But I guess that's not really up to me is it? What do you think?"
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>>2171865
>What do you think?
Don't show insecurtiy
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>>2171865
>What do you think?
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>>2171873
Voting for this
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>>2171865
I'll vote for this
>>2171873
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>>2171865
Meh, I'll switch from >>2171868
to >>2171873. It's pretty solid.
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>>2171865
“Nah. I’m just a guy trying to do the right thing, who also likes jogging. But I couldn’t really say what others think of me, right? What about you? What do you think?”
“...What’s with that, Nii-san? Trying to act cool?”

She giggles, but resumes her jogging. “I...don’t really know, Nii-san. I don’t think we know each other enough yet.” She smiles. “But from the looks of things, you don’t look like an ass-kisser to me. Sure, I was kinda wary when you just jogged beside me that one time, but now I’m glad I have a partner. If you were an ass-kisser, you would have done something by now, I think.”

You raise your brow. “Done what?”
“Nothing. Thanks, Nii-san. I appreciate these mornings. I’ll try to at least defend you in my circle.”

You smile, appreciative of Murakami. At least you have an ally in St. Agace.

Rumors are spreading outside of school. You wonder what effects this will have on your battles in the future…

>cont’d
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>>2171930
>Murakami will remember this.
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>>2171930
You’ve arrived to school in a bit of an uproar.

Nakamura Eiji is absent.

Reason?

The class rep, Hanazawa Ryou.

Nobody knows the exact reason why. Only that it’s related to her in some way.
Speculations are abound. Some say they’re eloping. Some say the man-stealer was back again.

And some were saying it has something to do with the Gomasuri.

Nobody saw you and class rep in the resto, you were sure of that. It was all a rumor, even if it was a correct rumor.
The logic being, the class rep got in trouble. Even Eiji-kun skipped school. Who could’ve caused this?
Well, why not the one who’s trying to get in good with Nakamura?

All throughout the school day, you have been pelted with bottles, spitballs, crumpled pieces of paper with illustrations of asses. All in full view of the teachers, who ignore it.

And of Hanazawa, who finally realized what’s going on.

One piece of crumpled paper rolls to her feet. You have no idea what she read in there, but as soon as break time arrives…

“Hanazawa…?”

She storms out of the classroom, fuming.

You meant to give chase to her, when you see a neat little envelope on your table.

You were turned around for only a second, trying to speak with Hanazawa. You open the envelope to clean handwriting. One you don’t recognize either.

It only contains one word.

“Rooftop.”

>Find out who it is.
>Ignore it.
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>>2171978
>Find out who it is.
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>>2171978
>>Find out who it is.
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>>2171978
>Find out who it is.
The plot thickens.
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>>2171978
>>Find out who it is.
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>>2171978
>It's clearly the ojou.
>Go meet her.
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>>2171978
You really should give chase to Hanazawa, but you’ve decided to find out who sent the letter first.

You head to the rooftop, and open it to find…

“Tezuka-san?”

Tezuka Rei is standing in the middle of the rooftop, staring off into space, seemingly lost in thought.

“Er, Tezuka-san?”

You finally caught her attention, and she faces you, smiling.
“Ah. Yamada-kun.”

Her demeanor is somewhat...different. Yes, she still has the air of aloofness about her, but…there’s a mysterious grace as well.

“Were you the one who sent this letter?”
She nods with a gentle smile. “Thank you for meeting me immediately.”
“...No problem. What’s up?”

“Ei-kun is absent…”
“Ah. That’s right. Nakamura-san brings you your lunch right? Hang on, let me--”
“It’s fine, Yamada-kun. Lunch could wait. Could we talk first?”

It’s a bit unsettling to see her so...different. Is it because she’s not sleeping, you wonder?
“Alright. What do you want to talk about?”

“Do you know why Ei-kun is absent?”
“If the rumors are true, it’s because of the class rep.”
“Yes. But why are you acting like you know less than you really do?”
“...What…?”
“You’ve been friends, right? You and the class rep are really close.”

That’s right. She’s from the same class. Eiji might not notice because he’s dense, but then...how should Tezuka-san?

“You’ve been in an alliance of sorts, right? For Ei-kun’s sake.”
The hairs in the back of your neck stands up.

She smiles, enigmatic.

”I want to become allies with you, too.”

(TO BE CONT’D)

Merry Christmas everyone! No runs tomorrow, spend time with your family! :D I’ll try to fit in more runs this week, check the thread or twitter for updates.
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>>2172059
Oh boi, here we go, tryin to make happy the anime pantheon of this world.


Also thank you for the run Bisugo and Merry Christmas.
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Hm. Okay?

I mean, A: we don't think Ryou is fit for Eiji at the moment, and B: If she thinks we've got some dirt on Ryou, we honestly don't. So I dunno what she thinks she's playing at.
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>>2172059
CRAP
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>>2172059
OMG ITS HAPPENING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Merry Christas to you too QM best quest ever.
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>>2172059
Didn't expect this to happen so soon. Also Eiji might be with Ryou cheering her up or something.

Merry christmas and thanks for the run.
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>>2172196
i hope she didnt get hunged about what happened yesterday i mean it's a lot of fun hanging around Class Rep it would be bad if something happens to her.
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>>2172059
Happy yuletide!
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>>2172348
>hunged
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>>2172059
That's hell Yamada is walking into. Do you feel like a [Hero of Justice] yet?

So in order to make everyone happy for [TRUE END] we need to break the Eiji-Grail War thing going on?

Got to admit, this is one of the most interesting Isekai-type quests I've read so far. Thanks for running and Merry Christmas everyone.
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>>2171750
>Meanwhile Mom who eavesdropping from the corner of the room a little hint of smile in her face
>just like your dad huh
>walks away in bedroom to sleep for another day of work tomorrow.
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Are we a bad boyfriend/lover for ignoring what's upsetting her and going for the shiny? I feel like we are.
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>>2172909
A little bit
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>>2172909
Yes.
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>>2172909
She's most likely upset over the fact that Hikaru tried to steal her man even though she's her friend. There's nothing we can do about this.
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>>2173692
Or perhaps the collective found out we're dating and started bullying her too?
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>>2174084
we need to ask her about this. a worried GF is a recipe for...bad happenings
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>>2172909
>>2173692
>>2174084
>>2175789
It’s obvious she realized we are being bullied.
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>>2176160
Aw, I enjoyed watching them flounder.
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Just got caught up. Love the shit out of this quest and all the discussion and theorycrafting and shadowrunning that happens. Reminds me of the old /tg/ quests.

One small idea I wanted to throw out here and see what you guys do with it is this:

If Ken is both a Mob AND a Meta, could we potentially cause other Mobs to become Metas too? What I'm trying to say is that maybe we could make Hanazawa a Meta, to an extent? Not sure how but what if that was doable? Fighting the system by gradually (?) converting others to see what we see, to know what we know?
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>>2177057
I assume that would require someone having potential to be [Awakened], or a purpose built meta joke character. Low chance for the latter and not a chance at all for the former if our brother was right. But who knows? Maybe some other chump will get thrown in here like we did.
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>>2177096
No I mean Hanazawa is a [Mob]. What if we just explain shit step by step to her, like this:
>Okay you know Harem manga right?
>Eiji is literally a Harem protagonist
>You have black hair, so do I
>Class rep, ojou sama, hyperactive kouhai, and the sleepy cute girl all have ridiculous hair colors - but no one bats an eye to them
>Even YOU thought this was normal
>Look at everybody else we go to school with, in all our classes
>Do you see literally ANYBODY ELSE with that sort of hairstyle?
and so on and so forth?
If that fails, simply just explain everything that we've been going through from the start using Otaku terminology and hoping that works as a proxy to get the information into her head, since she's already an Otaku. If not, then at least she'll know why we act the way we do.
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>>2177188
If I recall correctly, we vaguely tried that twice. The first time we got warned that being too direct about it would destroy the universe. The second time it just plain didn't take.
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>>2177214
well fuck, do we have any other options right now, or do we have to wait until we get one or two people [Happiness] and we start unlocking abilities and new shit for ourselves?
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>>2177313
I don't think this is that kind of quest. Haven't for a while. Really, the whole big problem is that we can't do anything obvious or logical without threatening the fabric of the universe, due to the simple fact that Harem animes don't make any sense if you think about them longer than a minute. 2 minutes, tops. Solving the problem via a simple solution would kill the plot, the story, and by extension, our existence.

So we've got to dance to the tune as best we can while also trying to figure out a way to point out that we're on puppet strings without getting removed from the dance entirely. It's a daunting task. And honestly very annoying in several spots, as on occasion if we get a little bit too clever, the QM has shown that he'll just force the issue regardless.
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>>2177331
yep even no matter how much we weave our way where its logical not to do. QM finds bullshit to force us with. It's like how one sticks our action so much he would do it but at the next he would smack that hammer just to remind us that we are just a mob.
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I wonder if the world actually ends when protag achieves happiness or just the harem system ends. Because if the actual world becomes void then who cares what kind of End anyone gets.
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>>2177622
>then who cares what kind of End anyone gets
We do.
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He never said the end would be immediate, did he?
After all. Good ends usually let you peer at least a little bit into the future to see how things ended up. True ends usually go the furthest before fading everything to black. A true end would give everyone the most amount of time to persist after achieving happiness, I believe. And in that time, nobody should be constrained to roles.
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Things to do.
1. Achieve Happiness
Make Ryou acknowledge to love herself then the others
Make Tezuka...i dunno what she propose
We dont know the other girls who want their happiness but first they must confront the devil themselves
Remember some girls are [META] characters in an extent but not like Kei
2. The Collective
No matter how much we avoid any kind of detection i think they have the larger net and every move we do is probably tracked by them. We need to conceal any weapon that can be hidded well in our clothes. Learn self defense too while at it. My suggestion is to learn some fighting with Nakamura. I know its a bad idea but push comes to shove we can rely on this girl. We owe her a fight anyway might as well spar with her.
3. Hanazawa
No matter how much we do seems to make Hanazawa misunderstands....or jealous but we must do something to make her believe us truthfully. Any kind of things preferably memories from each other that grows our bonds with her until it is unbreakable just like my persona social links
4.Kei
Kei on other hand want [Happiness} too but in what kind? Entertainment? probably but even though he help us in mysterious way or something, caution is still needed to traverse. We may need to talk with him a lot until that facade of his breaks and spills everything.
5. Everything else including the universe.
The plot animation and everything relies on viewer ratings (probably us and to the extension QM) so please use write-in that would only make the situation a little bit better....although i wont know how the QM will do it since he did it a lot of times. lest not antagonize him a lot or he will shut us down :(

Welp let's do it boys and lets aim for True End.
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>>2177930
Why should we, I'd rather risk everything to try and change or remove the system than play along with it shoehorning everything into a bad story when there's no clear gain other than a moment of happiness before everything fades to black.

Either fix the system or try and escape it to tokyo, that would be my call.
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>>2177947
How do you intend to change the rules of reality?
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>>2177957
Influencing Eiji directly but in a subtle way?
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>>2177963
Hm....
What if we actually try to make Eiji a harem-seeking pervert?
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>>2177965
>Harem doesn't seek him anymore
>He seeks the harem instead
>inverts the entire genre and reverses all character relationships
Not sure if that would be good or worthwhile or not.
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>>2177967
I intended more for him and the harem to kinda meet in the middle.
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>>2177972
That would be solving the problem in an easy logical way, which the universe would block us from attempting.
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[Spoiler]sorry for lack of runs, hectic holiday schedule. Ill try my best to get one or two runs in this week, but don't discount the possibility of the next run happening next year as well. Happy holidays![/spoiler]
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>>2178000
nice trips, and thank you
use Ctrl+S for spoiler tags
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>>2178000
Happy Holidays BSG!

Thanks for the wild ride so far!
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>>2178948
We still haven't had Hanazawa do that to us yet.
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>>2178952
Didn't BSG do that story. I thought it was cannon.
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>>2183802
It IS canon. We just didn't do it THAT way. Read my post.
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Didn't even go on one date before putting out?
why did you all route lock us on the whore ?
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>>2187885
>calling the one person that can keep us sane in this fucked up world a whore
Have some dignity, dude. But now that you mention it, we could try to go for a date when we aren't busy
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>>2187896
christ, wasn't even five minutes
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>>2187927
4chanX thread watcher, dude. Comes in handy
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I for one, appreciate the steadfast defense of best girl Hanazawa from those who would dare insult her.
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>>2190286
Someone needs to make a "behead those who insult Hanazawa" pic
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>>2191162
More like "[Erase] those who insult Hanazawa"
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Anyone up for a quick run?
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>>2192591
Yes, bout damn time.
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>>2192606
alright, gimme a couple minutes to prep
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Tezuka Rei.

You’ve always thought of her as an air-headed, sleepy type of girl. Always napping and dependent on Nakamura Eiji despite being the same age.

Yet now she stands in front of you betraying a sharpness behind her gaze. And alongside her newfound side, she also offers an equally out of character proposal.

“I want to become allies with you, too.”

Now she stands there, silent, waiting for your reply.

>I’m already allies with class rep, sorry
>What’s in it for me?
>Why not? Let's team up
>Write in
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>>2192725
>I'll tell you what i told the rep, just ask him out.
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>>2192725
>I'll tell you what i told the rep, just ask him out.
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>>2192725
"Uhhhh....sure? I guess I'll ask the Class rep later about I guess. I honestly have no stake in this other than spiting your cult at this point." Just drop by later and I'll let you know.
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>>2192756
>>2192749
Actually can I combine these?
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>>2192725
>I'd like to ask a few questions first.
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>>2192725
>I'm having enough trouble with your rabid fans as it is so just make a move already and end it.
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>>2192765
Forgot the damn trip
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>Write ins (just ask him out)
Writing
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Just realized we could technically say that for the moment Tezuka is Awake.

kek
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>>2192779
Incredible...
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>>2192725
“Look, Tezuka-san...to be honest, I’ll just tell you the same thing I’ve been telling the class rep. Why not just ask him out?”

Tezuka looks at you, puzzled. “Ask him out?”
“Yes.”
“Ask who out?”
“...Nakamura-san?”
“Ei-kun?... He’s part of all this, yes, but I’m not asking for help on that front.” She grins, a bit sad. “I’ve given up on that for a while now.”

She steadies herself, and looks at you, determined once more.
“Yamada-san. I’m asking for your help in saving the class rep.”

>You've given up?
>Why do you need my help?
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>>2192813
Well that's a turn.
>Saving her from what?
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>>2192813
>So I wasn't crazy in thinking she has a problem? Oh thank god, I was going to be talking to my girlfriend about that later.
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>>2192813
Save her from what and how So? I want to hear your reasoning before I agree to anything.
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>>2192813
>You've given up?
>Hold on, please tell me you're all not backing off of Eiji so Ryou has a shot?
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>>2192813
>>You've given up?
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>Write ins (saving her from what and you've given up?)
Writing.
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>>2192813
“Hang on, hang on. When you say saving her...what do you mean by that?”

She turns her head, and walks towards the edge of the roof. You stay planted to where you are, waiting for her to speak.

“...I’ve known Ryou-chan since middle school. Everyone called her the ‘man-stealer’. She’s a cute girl, you know, and she’s easy to hang around with. That’s why a lot of guys fell for her.

“At first, she was only dubbed that by the girls who’s crushes was stolen by her beauty. But then...the rumors started turning into truth.

“Being branded as a ‘man-stealer’...she started to take that as reality. That that’s who she really is. But I know she never really means it, never really wants to, because afterwards...I always see her crying. And so does Ei-kun.

“But unlike you and me, Yamada-san, he doesn’t know. He’s really dense, even when we were kids. That’s why when he befriended Ryou-chan, it was for her as a person, not for her looks or the rumors.

“And that’s why...it pains him whenever he sees her crying, and she won’t tell him why. I don’t want my friend to cry anymore, and I don’t want to see Ei-kun hurt.”

You stand there, staring at Tezuka’s bright blue hair, blowing in the wind.

“Is that why you’ve given him up?”
“Yes. Rinko-chan, Mariko-chan, Ryou-chan...all of them like him you know. If I added myself to the mix, it will only confuse him more and it might break our friendship apart.”

“I’m happy enough to be the childhood friend,” she adds, giggling.

>That’s stupid. Fight for your right.
>That’s noble. You have my respect, Tezuka-san.
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>>2192974
>>That’s fucking stupid. Fight for your right.
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>>2192974
>That’s noble. You have my respect, Tezuka-san.
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>>2192974
All three of you are idiots, you know that right? Class Rep gave me the exact same spiel when we started working together.
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>>2192974
>That’s stupid. Fight for your right.
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>>2192974
>That’s noble. You have my respect, Tezuka-san.
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Stupid wins, 3-2

>Writing.
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>wanting the harem to continue with four girls
>when our goal is to make all of them find [Happiness] somehow and dissolve the harem
>said she's content to be how she is to Eiji
>we're telling her to continue being one of the harem
???
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>>2192974
>That’s noble. You have my respect, Tezuka-san.
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>>2192974
>>2192974
“I don’t want to be rude, Tezuka-san...but that’s idiotic. If you like the guy, then you fight for your right.”
“I do like Ei-kun,” she replies. “But I’m perfectly happy with how we are right now. As long as I could stay by his side, it doesn’t matter who he ends up with.”

“So you’re going to remain in a perpetual state of wanting, yet never getting what you want?”
“You’re wrong, Yamada-san. I’m not remaining static. I’ve already decided to give him up. And that’s why I’m asking you for help.”
“...What do you mean?”

She turns to face you once again.
“Help me save her, Yamada-san. And in exchange, I’ll help you let Ryou-chan win.”

>I cannot accept that, knowing your true feelings.
>I’ll help save her, but you don’t need to help her win. It's unfair to the other girls.
>I accept your terms.
>What about the other girls?
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>>2193094
>I’ll help save her, but you don’t need to help her win. It's unfair to the other girls.
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>>2193094
>If you're sure.....
>I accept your terms.
>What about the other girls?
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>>2193022
Makes me wish I was here earlier.

>>2193094
>I’ll help save her, but you don’t need to help her win.
>Thinking about it, the fact that you're willing to do that is impressive. Eiji's a good guy, but he's not worth breaking friends over, I believe. I qant to help Ryou get better as a person, not just get Eiji.
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Also Tezuka is probs in denial bout her feelings but one problem at a time guys.
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>>2193094
>I’ll help save her, but you don’t need to help her win. It's unfair to the other girls.
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>>2193108
Oh obviously. In fact, I'm not 100% certain she's not trying to play a long game with us. But, we'll take the help as it comes and just keep an eye out when our mental faculties are available to do so.
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>>2193094
>I accept your terms.
>What about the other girls?
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>>2193094
>"I'm not interested in her winning or losing, I just wish to save my friend, as long as you and I agree with that matter, I have no problem working with you.
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>>2193094
>>I’ll help save her, but you don’t need to help her win. It's unfair to the other girls.

>>What about the other girls?
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Did you know?
A lot of romance games have a [time limit].
That's right.
Once things reach a certain point, the protagonist must have made a certain amount of progress on a route (even the true route), it it's a [bad end].
And considering this is a school setting, there's a few different significant events that could mark points of no return.
A festival of some kind, the end of the school year, and a school event.

Even romcom animes tend to stick to this, though the time limit isn't so noticeable in those.
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>>2193129
Or it's* is what I meant to put there, not it it's. Whoops!
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>>2193094
I support >>2193125

Also I just caught up today, love it so far.
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>>2193125
Switching to this.
>>2193094
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“It’s not about Ryou winning or losing. Look, I’ll help you save the class rep, but you don’t have to pay me back. Our interests are aligned anyway. Not to mention, it would be unfair to the other girls, and even to you...”

She nods. “I would still support you even if you were helping Rinko-chan or Mariko-chan to win, you know. But if you don’t want anything, then that’s fine as well. Thank you, Yamada-san.”

“No need for thanks. Anyway, do you have any idea on how to help Ryou?”

She ponders for a moment.
“...Have you ever wondered why Ryou-chan does the things she does? It’s because she’s infatuated with the idea of love. She’s always been alone, bullied and abused, and does not see the merits of herself. She thinks love is the thing that she’s missing. It might be one, but she also needs things like self-confidence.”

“So what do you propose?”

“Point her to the right direction. Show her that having a boyfriend isn’t the only way, that it’s not all that she thinks that it is. How to do that...is the question, yes. That’s why I’m asking for your help, Yamada-san. Together we might be able to solve this.”

Ring!

Break time is over.

“Let’s continue this some other time. Wait five minutes before leaving.”

And with that, she exits the rooftop.

>cont’d
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>>2193206
>Show her that having a boyfriend isn’t the only way, that it’s not all that she thinks that it is.

FUCKING THANK YOU.
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>>2193228
Give that bitch a purpose, bitches love purposes.
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>>2193206
Upon returning to the classroom, you spot Tezuka at her original seat, in front of Nakamura’s. She’s already dozing off. You wonder whether this was even the same girl you were talking with earlier.

You sit back on your chair, and notice an all new batch of marker sketches on your desk. You turn to see who did it, but no one’s looking in your direction.

You also notice that Hanazawa hasn’t returned to her seat.

As you erase the drawings on the desk, the door opens and sensei enters. At the same time, the door at the back opens as well. Hanazawa enters and rushes to her desk, fixing her things.

You wanted to talk to her before sensei arrives, but…

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Classes end. You turn to face Hanazawa.

“Hana--”

She’s stuffing things inside her bag. And before you could even say anything else, she rushes out of the classroom.

She’s avoiding you, you realize.

>Call her on your phone.
>Give her some space.
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>>2193262
>>Call her on your phone.

She's not gonna respond, but, token effort without getting up in her grill.

>Text her when she doesn't respond, asking to meet for an explanation.
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>>2193262
>Call her on your phone.
Time to find out what's goin on
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>>2193262
>Call her on your phone.
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>>2193262
>Call her on your phone.
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>>2193262
Text her that you'll give her some space for now , but that you will be talking about this soon and that avoiding each other will only be detrimental to your relationship. .
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>>2193262
>>Give her some space.
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>>2193283
I support this

Seriously guys, don't just go for the first option you see,think things through
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>>2193294
...I can understand why people wouldn't bother at this point, really. Also, it sounds a bit more commanding than I'd prefer, even if the general idea of 'text her' is shared.
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>>2193283
>>2193281
Supporting
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>>2193300
That was my opinion on it, too controlling sounding imo.
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>>2193262
You pull out your phone and dial her number.
It rings, but she doesn’t pick up.
You try to call her again, but your phone vibrates.

It’s a message from Hanazawa.

>Not today, Yamada-kun.

You stare at the message in disbelief, and sigh. She doesn’t want to talk so what’s the point, you think.

You decide to head home by yourself…

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Before reaching the school gates, you hear some commotion behind the building. You decide to check what it’s all about.

A crowd of students are gathered around the track oval. The girls are cheering and squealing, while the guys are warming up, wearing bright colored vests.

That’s right. Today’s soccer try-outs.

>Check it out.
>Don’t bother.
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>>2193306
I didn't mean for it to sound controlling, more like we have too much to deal with right now, and we know she loves us but we're the ones getting bullied, I just believe that doing this isn't a good sign, still love her though.
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>>2193338
>Don’t bother.

Not today. [The Collective] will send us home with broken bones if we try to participate in a physical sport. Best to do something else now.
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>>2193338
>Don’t bother.
I think we should let it go since we still got alot of heat on us atm, so best to avoid another bathroom style incident.
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>>2193338
>>Check it out.
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>>2193338
>check it out,

STAY AWAY FROM THE CLUB, BUILD OUR OWN LIFE, REMOVE PERCEIVED BROWNNOSING
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>>2193338
>Check it out
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Okay, so, I kinda want to to prove a point about 'fuck you I do as I please', but at the same time I can understand why we'd avoid it. Personally, I'd make sure, if we did check it out, to be especially wary of intentional tackles, flopping, and to not expect any cheers.
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>>2193338
>>Don’t bother.
Fuck that shit, we got a job
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>>2193338
>Check it out.
Any beatings we get from random scumbags will only serve to make us stronger
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>>2193338
>Don’t bother.
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...Eh, fuck it. Let's take on the pitch. (Probably literally, I expect even our 'teammates' in tryouts to take shots at us.) I wish I knew if we could actually stay us throughout, though...

>>2193338
Check it out.
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>>2193377
Alright well I guess we're goin all in then
>>2193338
Changing to >Check it out.
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>>2193378
I'm fully aware this could be a horrible idea, but this one hits close to home for me.
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>>2193381
If nothing else, we might be able to pull a Tommy Dreamer.
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>Check it out.
Writing.

internet's being a real bitch, writing this on mobile data now
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I hope hana is a sadist cause our character seems to be a masochist.
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>>2193439
Again, it's more proving a point. To ourselves, if no one else.
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You approach the oval. Though some of the girls give you dirty glances, most of their attention is focused on one thing. Or to be more specific, one guy.

Among all the boys, one of them stands out in height, stature, and aura. He seems more mature than all the other boys, and yet there's still an air of childishness on him.

He spots you, and for some reason, approaches.

"Hey, man." His tone is casual, yet authoritative. "I'm Ogai, coach of the soccer team. You trying out?" He looks young to be a coach, you think. College aged at best.

"Actually, I was just checking it out..."

"That so?" He chuckles. "Don't worry about it, most of the guys here are just 'checking it out' too. They're just in it cause we're playing later. Interested?"
"I don't really play though..."
"Ohh. Well, what are you into?"

...This guy's pretty charismatic, you think. No wonder the size of the crowd.

"I like to run."
"Ah! Well, you're in luck. Try-out's an endurance run. To be part of the team, you'll be running a full 90 minutes, you know? Think you got what it takes?"

>Show him what you're made of (Roll 1d100)
>Decline and leave.
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Rolled 28 (1d100)

>>2193510
>Show him what you're made of (Roll 1d100)
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Rolled 13 (1d100)

>>2193510
>Show him what you're made of (Roll 1d100)
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Rolled 26 (1d100)

>>2193510
>>Show him what you're made of (Roll 1d100)
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Rolled 96 (1d100)

>>2193510
I wasn't expecting a roll.
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Rolled 9 (1d100)

>>2193510
>Show him what you're made of (Roll 1d100)
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>>2193510
>Show him
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>>2193510
>>Decline and leave.
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>>2193517
>>2193522
>>2193523
>>2193529
Startin off the new year right bois.
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>>2193535
I'm feeling pretty good about me, at least.
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>>2193538
Fair enough, if the trend sticks I'm just gonna say you're our designated roller.
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Rolled 38 (1d100)

>>2193531
Forgot to roll
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Rolled 54 (1d100)

Maybe luck has it in store for me, too.
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Rolled 4 (1d100)

what's my luck this year like?
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>>2193510
show him
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Rolled 51 (1d100)

>>2193571
whoops
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>>2193510
FUCK IT, let's do it

>I want to kill this cunt.
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Rolled 7 (1d100)

>Show him what you're made of (Roll 1d100)
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>>2193510
"Why not?" You feel pretty confident, especially since you've been training daily with Murakami as it is.

He smiles. "Go get changed then. You're the last one, we'll start once you're done."

You head to the lockers and change to your PE uniform. Upon returning to the field Ogai throws you a vest, and you join the others in the starting line, stretching while you make your way there.

"Man, why do we need to do this endurance run?"
"Yeah...I just want to play against Ogai-san already..."
"Maybe he's just tiring us out so we can't beat him?"
"He said he'll be running with us though...but I just wanna play already..."

It seems most of the guys with you just want to play some soccer. From the way they're talking, you assume that the coach, Ogai, is a pretty good player. You don't really care though.

You just want to win.

"Ready," Ogai crouches alongside with you and the others, preparing to run. "Go!"


Ogai leaves the others behind in a flash. He's a different beast...!

You decide to pick up your pace. The others see you doing so, and try to copy, but after just a few seconds, they slow down once more.

You keep speeding up, keep increasing your stride, focusing on nothing but reaching the fast coach.
He looks back and spots you. Grinning, he picks up his pace as well.

It was an endurance test, but both of you are running at sprint speed already.

And slowly, you catch up.

You hear what you think is gasps of amazement, but you don't pay any attention to that. Only to running.

Until you finally surpass him.

But...

Somehow, he gains even more speed, leaving you in his dust. You try to pick up speed...

And stumble to the ground.

The others pass by you, jogging. You're panting, lungs feeling like ice.

"Gomasuri..."
"Gomasuri..."

The hairs in the back of your neck stand up. You stand up from the ground, and dash to the restroom, head lowered.

>cont'd
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>>2193610
WHAT, WWWHHAAAAAATTTTTTTT!

NO OPTION TO CONTINUE RUNNING DESPITE OUR FUCK UP.

WEAK!!!
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>>2193610
Well, that was the first dice challenge in the quest. Plenty of chances for redemption in the future.
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Wait so was this a good outcome or a bad one? Can we roll to stop being a bitch?
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>>2193620
Hold your REEEE till the end of the posts m8
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>>2193622
>make ourselves look like an ass in front of a large crowd
>also shows everyone how weak we are
Oh gee, i don't know.
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>>2193633
Well what I mean is we were managing to keep up for a little bit so I don't think it was all for naught.
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>>2193638
Might have made a good impression on the coach since we actually displayed some actual enthusiasm despite our failure.
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>>2193640
The biggest issue I'm seeing is this was endurance but we tried to sprint instead. So who knows what'll come of this but it's safe to say it didnt got too well. Might not be all bad though.
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I'm more concerned about the fact that QM didn't give any specifics about the dice mechanics. It seems like he was taking every single roll, judging by the outcome. Stuff like that influences how people or whether people roll at all.
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>>2193644
Yeah, Ken was a bit too motivated.
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>>2193640
>>2193644
>>2193653
Everyone's going to hate us anyways, so it's really only the impression on the coach that means anything.

Who's up for some after school practice amirite guys
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>>2193659
If it ends up being an option, I'm down for it.
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>>2193650
Also, I'm >>2193527 and that ID. Internet just went out so I'm on mobile.
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>>2193659
>>2193640
Also, remember that even the faculty are weak enough in personality that they can't really enforce discipline over the student body if it threatens their waifus.
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>>2193610
You rinse your face on the sink, trying to forget the embarassment on the oval. You stare up at your face in the mirror, that feautre-less, forgetable face.

"Stupid..." You mutter to yourself. "Why did I even...so stupid..."

You wipe your face with your shirt, and change back into your uniform.
You exit the restroom, trying to find the exit as fast as you can.

"Hey. Nice run."

You look back, to see Ogai leaning on the wall, smiling. He isn't even out of breath.

"Why'd you leave the oval?"
"...It was an endurance race. And I failed. I didn't see the point of staying."
"Well, you're right. But shouldn't the coach be the one saying whether you're in or not?"
"What are you trying to say, Ogai-san?"

He smiles, and pats you on the shoulder.
"I'm saying I like your attitude. The other guys are out there to play. You want to win. I'll train you with the soccer team, if you're interested."
"Even if I'm a kiss-ass?"
"Is that a bad thing? I'm a kiss-ass myself. How'd you think I got this gig?"

He grins. "So? Whatcha think?"

>I don't need your pity.
>Thanks, I guess.
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I guess it doesn't matter anyways, as long as we can get the coach as an ally, then that means we have someone just as popular as the harem on our side, which was one of the requirements for getting the fucking pathetic student body off our back.
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>>2193680
Again what could we do to make it worse? Short of beatings (sort of, there was the bucket indecent) we've had the worst that highschool life can offer already.
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>>2193685
>Smile, not. Get back out there.

Also jesus, someone finally comes straight with it. Sometimes that's just what you got to do in order to get ahead in life.
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>>2193685
>Thanks, I guess.
Maybe it all ends in fire but I say we go for it.
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>>2193691
*nod

Or just
>Thanks.
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>>2193685
>thanks, I'll try my best.
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>>2193685
>Thanks, I guess.
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>>2193685
>I'd love to join!

Show your enthusiasm. Don't just reply so unsure of yourself
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>>2193690
Also

>Thanks, I guess.

CHOO CHOO
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>>2193685
>>I don't need your pity.
but we have a job already
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>>2193699
Also also drop the I guess like >>2193698 said, it's time to be more assertive. We still have a job though.
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>>2193685
>>Thanks, I guess.
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>>2193685
>thanks, I'll try my best!
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>>2193697
Switching to.
>Thanks!
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>>2193694
Changing to

>Thanks!

Because we do need to show a little bit more intensity.
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>>2193685
>>2193685
"Thanks, I guess."
"Cool," he says, grinning. "You still wanna play? Just for fun."
"I don't really play soccer though...and I already got changed..."

"That so? It's cool man. Is this your only club?"
"Yeah, but I have a part time job."

You tell him your schedule.

"Ohh." He gives you a thumbs up. "Well, I'd prefer the rookies to be present everyday, but it can't be helped. Sure thing, dude, but I want your commitment on summertime at least."
You nod. You don't really have plans for summer yet.

"Alright. Just drop by when you're free then. I'll train you myself, if you're still awkward about it."
Instead of bowing, he gives you a fistbump. This coach's way too casual, you think...

-------

You head out to the exit, for real this time. You hear the whispers of the others around you, but you pay them no mind. Falling down on the try-outs did nothing but give them ammunition, but it can't be helped...

"At least they're just whispering..." you mutter to yourself.

You walk by a guy in the gates.

"Nice run, asshat." he says while you pass by.

So much for whispering.

>Ignore him.
>The fuck you just say?
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>>2193736
>Ignore him.
Remember guys, be the bigger man.
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>>2193736
>Ignore him.
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>Ignore him.
The goal is to become non bulliable instead of seeking out fights.
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>>2193736
>>Ignore him.

I want to at least flip him off thought
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>>2193736
>Better than you.
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>>2193736
Grow some balls and ask a girl out, you pussy.
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>>2193736
Air jerk in his direction
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>>2193736
>>Ignore him.
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You pass him by, ignoring him.
"Oi, I'm talking to you, idiot."

You continue walking. You're the bigger man, you shouldn't stoop to his lev--

You feel your collar grabbed. Your whole body is turned.

"I said, I'm talking to you!"

The guy is about two inches taller than you. And he's fuming.

"You Yamada?"
"What's it to you?"
"What's it to me? A lot of things, dipshit, that's what. How you related to Hanazawa?"
"None of your business. Now let me go."
"Uh-uh. It is my business. What the hell did you do to her?"
"I didn't do anything! Who the hell are you anyway?"

He glares at you, anger emanating from every pore of his skin.

"I'm Hanazawa's boyfriend. Who the hell are YOU?"

(TO BE CONT'D)
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>>2193780
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>>2193780
Oh shit.
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>>2193780
I told you guys she was a slutty whore!
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>>2193788
HE'S A DELUSIONAL STALKER!
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>>2193780
Of all the things I expected to happen the thing that did happen was the least expected thing.
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>>2193780
Bsg you fucking love your cliffhangers don't you
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Also thanks for the run BSG.

Now I gotta go think about my life and my choices for a few hours, goddamnit.

seriously though I love this quest.
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>>2193811
Get your weird ass porn outta here bro.
You can call a character a whore but jesus christ this is a blue board at least spoiler that shit.
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>>2193780
pls be a joke
Hanazawa is pure. PURE!
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Should i delete it?
I got it from a blue board before and its two guys from ed edd and eddy so i figured it was fine.
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>>2193815
I don't care if she's pure or whatever, I just know that the hanazawa we know isn't someone who would begin dating us if she already has a boyfriend, or go out and get a new boyfriend after just one afternoon.

And if she is, fuck her, we have other options
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It's obviously just a ruse, you guys.
He's trying to fuck with us because he's a le fanclub member.
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>>2193829
Agree. For crying out loud she chose us when we were at our lowest, when we were covered in LITERAL SHIT.
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>>2193780
Wait a minute. This is a a kind of thing main characters in a soap opera experience. But both us and Hanazawa are Mobs, this shouldn't be happening.
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>>2193945
Character Development
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>>2193945
Maybe we're getting enough popularity to get our own episode or maybe even our own spin off
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>>2193954
Or maybe onii-san is just full of shit.
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now im worried guys :(
so is Hanazawa really a collective spy?
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I'm a bit out of the loop. How often is the quest run?
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>>2194054
Nah. This guy's just a collective goon trying to scare us.
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So what's up with this guy that he has his own character image? He's no ordinary mob, that's for sure.
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>>2194317
Idk direct conflict isn't really their thing.
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>>2193829
More likely, he's been stalking her with no success. That explains both Hanazawa's behaviour (she probably wanted to keep us away from him, but failed), and the guy's current hysterics.
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>>2194278
Dunno honestly. It runs pretty often when it first started but the QM said they might not be able to run as often now
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>>2194278
basically as often as the QM has time, dont have anything more specific than that but it's pretty damn frequent from what i've seen, make sure to follow on twitter if you dont wanna miss a run.
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Did Hanazawa ever mention her family? Maybe this is her brother and he is testing us.
>>
School Bicycle
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OP always ends a thread on a cliffhanger and often enough they're easily resolved, so I'll hold off on commenting the current turn of events until next thread.
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Just a thought, but did the [Man Stealer ] overwrite our relationship with hanazawa somewhat?

Either way I'm both fucking livid and deeply hurt if this doesn't turn out to be some collective asswipe.
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>>2195846
Maybe the universe readjust itself to the subconscious of the protagonists, à la haruhi?
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Set up our friend the Student president with him, she gets flashback material, and he gets screwed over.
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>>2197380
That might not actually be a bad idea.
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>>2197380
Let's see if this asshole is really an asshole worth punishing that much, or not.
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>>2197380
That's not a smart way to give her the [Good End]
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I really wish BSG responded to the audience more. There's very little interaction between the QM and players in these threads.
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>>2197574
Do the characters in a show ever contact their creators?
I personally like this sort of disconnect. It puts us into the same situation as the character we are controlling. Having multiple posts of discussion on choices and consequences without the QM even saying a single fucking word means a lot.
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>>2197574
I dont see that as a problem.
Ive seen in a bunch of quests where the QM will give "character reactions" to what the MC just did, engage in asinine conversations, and slowing down writing progress.
Sure we can have conversation after the thread, but other than speculation whats the point?
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>>2198136
It really depends on the story premise and setting. If the MC is a character who knows a lot more about the world than the players it's perfectly ok to give extra info about the setting in-between sessions, but that wouldn't make any sense to do for this quest seeing as we're all equally clueless.
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Running in an hour.

should we make a new thread? its in the last page of the catalog already.
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>>2203442
Yay it's back. I say new thread
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>>2203442
Yeah, go for a new one.
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>>2203697
>>2203697




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