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"So, how do you know Lord Corbray?" You decided to ask.

Randar's expression shifts, his eyes soften while his face hardens.
"I fought alongside Ser Lyn in the defense of Gulltown. Bravest and most skilled knight I ever saw. Never shying from danger and always charging onward."
He raises his cup and looks at Lord Corbray with a smile, to which he in turn raises his cup in acknowledgement with a smug look.

Randar doesn't look so smug.
"It was unfortunately a battle that we lost. He yielded to Lord Arryn's forces and accepted the pardon, joining up against the royalists whilst me and my men rushed to the Trident to join Rhaegar's host on the opposing side."

He looks at his food for a moment before continuing.
"He distinguished himself in that battle. After his father was wounded, he picked up his family's Valyrian blade and in a reckless charge slew Lewyn Martell. He is a knight whose valor and loyalty was recognized by both sides of the war."

He begins to cut down on the steak in front of him with a hint of frustration.
"Apparently, that achievement was enough that rather than suffer sanctions and levy restrictions for raising his blade against his liege, he was instead awarded a gold stipend by the crown and his family exempted for any and all punishments that would be set upon the rest of the loyalist houses."

You notice one of the servants going to Lord Corbray and whispering something on his ear whilst Randar was talking.
He says something, but you can't tell what to the manservant and the manservant disappears after a moment.

>Awareness – 16: Pass

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>>2110434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YFXdDppLw0
>GAYDAR ACTIVATED
Hm? That's funny, it seems that there's only male servants...
You take a look around for a moment.

Wait a minute... This is a complete sausage fest! Not a single woman in sight. Wait... Sausage. There sure seems to be a lot of it at the table. Curious, it's not really a food nobility normally likes overmuch... Perhaps he picked that habit up during the war?
Wait. Interior decoration adheres strictly to color scheme, well dressed, clean shaven, has obviously put some effort into keeping his hair clean, scented candles, exotic foods...
Oh and there's also a bunch of burly sailors on the table as well.

Hmm...
You take solid three gulps of wine from your goblet. Ok, clearly nothing to see there.

"So, what brings you here Captain Eddard. Did you reconsider my offer and divine my location with heathen magics?"
"Not really, I just picked the only job that was available for a Captain like myself. Unfortunately, I hear it's plagued by clansmen."

"Yes, the sanctions that the crown has enforced upon the former loyalists have hit them hard and Lord Corbray is very much the exception."
"With the levy restrictions in place and the diminished manpower from the war, the losing side faces hard times in the Vale as the mountain clans have figured out many of the houses which cannot afford to go on the offense anymore."

He looks approvingly at Lord Corbray
"Lord Corbray has already petitioned Lord Arryn of the Vale to be more lenient in the military limitations for so that the lords could raise sufficient amount of men at arms to be more than just on the defensive, but it's likely that it will take at least a year, maybe two in the worst case to actually get approved."

"Bah! Enough about boring political garbage. Let's have a look at the goods that you've brought for us."

The manservant that was previously whispering comes up with a box that looks similiar to some of the ones that were loaded on your ship and places it on the floor in front of the table where you and the rest of the nobility were eating.

He slides open the box and produces a bottle, which he presents to the Lord.
"Myrish Firewines! About damn time. My cellar has had to deal months without."
He opens it without hesitation.
"Take the rest to the cellar. Tell me Eddard, can I call you Eddard? Have you ever tried firewines? The burn from them is quite something."

>"Funny you should mention it, I've been experimenting with strong drink myself." Whip out your clay bottle of Vodka and start doing flaming shots.
>"No, I must admit I have not." Take the drink
>"I don't trust anything that's not domestic. Who knows what they put in those?"
>Write-In

>>2110436

>"Funny you should mention it, I've been experimenting with strong drink myself." Whip out your clay bottle of Vodka and start doing flaming shots.
>"No, I must admit I have not." Take the drink
But dont go overboard. Lets just offer and take a little bit of alcohol, being spotty on the job isnt really a good idea.

>>2110436
>"Funny you should mention it, I've been experimenting with strong drink myself." Whip out your clay bottle of Vodka and start doing flaming shots.

>>2110436
>>2110452
Supportin
>>"Funny you should mention it, I've been experimenting with strong drink myself." Whip out your clay bottle of Vodka and start doing flaming shots.
>>"No, I must admit I have not." Take the drink

Unrelated question. Any of you nibbas know when syrup and the sugar made from syrup actually started popping up in Europe?

>>2110506
If europe had trees capable of producing syrup, even prehistoric societies would have harvested it, considering that native americans got that sweet maple juice since they pretty much got to the continent.

>>2110506
Not particularly but I could look into it.

>>2110547
See, I know that in Canada sap was harvested since time immemorial.
Can't seem to figure out though at which point Europeans figured out Syrup.

It seems to me that until people showed up in the new world, Europeans were importing sugar from the west indies.

Just like how Indians didn't have he wheel, the Europeans might have neglected Syrup.

>>2110563
Well, the world of a song of ice and fure is pretty close together in comparison. So you could say non honey/syrup sugar sources are easier to aquire than in real life.

>>2110551
> http://www.sucrose.com/lhist.html
According to this site sugar arrived in Europe after the crusades of the eleventh century but the only date as to it's actual recording given is 1099, in Britain. It however is unclear as to it's use by this point in time beyond being a spice.

Given this fact it is up to you OP to decide if it would be applicable for use in Westeros. However I would point out that much of what was needed to make it available to the rich in the real world is available in Westeros and Essos thanks to the supply of slaves and warm, wet growing enviroments.


I found a few alternatives as well:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defrutum
A roman fruit reduction / fruit syrup.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_beet#History
Technically this would work but it would require selective breeding to raise sugar content and an existing market for such a substance and such. You could bullshit a plant like this existing naturally mind you and it wouldn't exactly be too far off.

>>2110563
Seems according to Wikipedia we got to it in the 1600's. The locals showed us how to get it.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple_syrup#European_colonists


As to the importation of sugar, some was produced in Europe but the costs of it's production and the limited usable arable land prohibited it being of any note.

>>2110574
>Fire*
Plus its not like sugar is hard to come by in the first place. Aside from honey, the reach has a load of fruits and stuff that are native to the area, some imported as well

>>2110574
Well, the North is fantastically underdeveloped, so I wouldn't put it past them if they didn't know of it. Unless I can hear reference to it, that's another invention you could make.

>>2110576
Sugar is definitely a thing in Essos. I would Imagine Volantis would be pretty big on that trade.

Reason why I am looking for sugar is because you need sugar for rum.

>>2110611
Eh, if we can't get sugar for rum we can make whisky or another high strength alcohol.

>>2110611
Extracting sugar crystals from honey and syrup is pretty straight forward, I dont see why we would need an easily accesible sugar plant in the first place.

>>2110627
Of course it would be preferable if we had actual sugar but my point still stands.

>>2110627
True, honey is often used for this purpose.
Point was that Syrup from tree sap is probably not something that probably exists.

Syrup made from Weirwood sap distilled into liquor.

>>2110436
>"Funny you should mention it, I've been experimenting with strong drink myself." Whip out your clay bottle of Vodka and start doing flaming shots.

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>"Funny you should mention it, I've been experimenting with strong drink myself." Whip out your clay bottle of Vodka and start doing flaming shots.
>"No, I must admit I have not." Take the drink

"I must admit that I have not, though I most certainly would be open to the idea of trying some."
He pours some into your goblet and you begin tasting. Rich flavour, sweet yet spicy taste and a pleasant scent. You can feel the sugary texture of the drink as it flows ever so slightly thicker than water down your throat, giving a nice warm burn as it makes it's way down to your belly.
You estimate it's alcohol content being somewhere between 20-30% Overall rather strong for a wine.

"How do you like it?"
"Exquisite. It goes down smoothly. The Flavor is quite rich. I can see why people are paying so much to have it imported. It would seem I need to improve my product quite a bit to compete with this."
He looks at you a bit surprised
"Oh? You own a vineyard?"
"Not exactly. I have a little side project going on which is an attempt to create a stiff drink. While there really isn't much flavor thus far, I can certainly boast that mine will not lose to the firewines if it's just sheer potency."

He looks at you as if that caught his curiosity.
"Really now? I would very much like to try this drink of yours."
"I actually do have a sample piece on my travelsack if one of the servants wouldn't mind fetching it? It's the small clay bottle and oh, bring the little wooden cups as well.

Once the servant returned with your belongings, you requested him to bring some tinder from one of the candleboxes.

"Now, the way you can tell the drink is really strong..."
You pour some hootch into the makeshift shot glasses
"Is when you can do this."
You took the light from one of the candles on the table and ignited it with the piece of tinder. As you did so, the people around you started looking at you a bit warily as the blue flames danced from the cup.
"Now then..."
You rise up and grab the makeshift shot glass.
"Bottoms up."
With an excessive motion you pour the still flaming liquid down your throat with some the guests covering their mouths as they look at you go.

The taste... Well, it's nothing to write home about. It's just straight up vodka. Doesn't really taste of much more than Ethanol.

After seeing you pull off your stunt, Lord Corbray grabs his shot and smells it a bit.
"Smells a bit like you could get drunk from just the humours."
"You actually can. Eventually"
He looks at you skeptically
"I guess I'll have to take your word for it. Light me up."

He stays there looking at the blue flames for a moment. Giving the pretense of hesitation as if it's too crazy to even try until finally dropping the act and pouring it down his throat in an excessive motion. As he did, the hall erupted in clapping and cheers.
"It burns when it goes down, I'll admit that much. I think I do still prefer the firewines for the taste though."

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>>2112229
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You pour another shot
"Randar you care to try as well?"
He looks at you for a moment and then at the drink like he is unsure
"Oh, what the hell."

Lord Lyn grabs the piece of tinder and forcibly lights up the drink while Randar was still watching it. After a few moments of watching the blue flames in mental preparation, he decides to close his eyes and bite the bullet.
As Lord Lyn Corbray began clapping, the rest of the hall soon followed.

Lyn grabs your bottle and cups and walks around deciding to push few others into submitting to drink the burning cup. The Spectacle of hesitation, drinking of fire and cheers was repeated a few more times until the bottle finally ran dry.
"I simply must get some more bottles of this... What do you call this drink anyhow?"

> The Water of Life
> Vodka
> Spirits
> Liquor
> Something else: What?

Also

> I am afraid we just drank all of the substance in existence. I can make more, but it will take time. I'll be sure to send you a few bottles for tasting once I have the facilities set up.

> I am currently refining the means of its production. If you'd like to sponsor my endeavor, I will gladly share with you the secrets of it's manufacture as well as help you build the facilities and tools necessary for it's production on your lands so you can start your own brand of strong drink... for a price.

>Something else: (write-in)

>>2112236
>Spirits

>I am currently refining the means of its production. If you'd like to sponsor my endeavor, I will gladly share with you the secrets of it's manufacture as well as help you build the facilities and tools necessary for it's production on your lands so you can start your own brand of strong drink... for a price.

> I am currently refining the means of its production. If you'd like to sponsor my endeavor, I will gladly share with you the secrets of it's manufacture as well as help you build the facilities and tools necessary for it's production on your lands so you can start your own brand of strong drink... for a price.

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It should be pointed out that should he accept your offer and you remain here to construct a distillery for him, you will be forfeiting your current assignment and all the bonuses attributed to it as you did not finish the job.

However, you will still be entitled to the standard delivery fee, which you may fetch from Gulltown if you'd like.

>>2112288
We can't return after the job?

>>2112302
I guess you could schedule it so that you'll run your little errand and then return.
Still, you'd be keeping a Lord waiting.

>>2112236

>>2112236

> Something else: What? White Water

> I am currently refining the means of its production. If you'd like to sponsor my endeavor, I will gladly share with you the secrets of it's manufacture as well as help you build the facilities and tools necessary for it's production on your lands so you can start your own brand of strong drink... for a price.

But let him know we have something to do first, let him know once we're done with the job we'll work on this

>>2112236
>> I am afraid we just drank all of the substance in existence. I can make more, but it will take time. I'll be sure to send you a few bottles for tasting once I have the facilities set up.
Guess I'll switch to this then

>>2112315
>>> I am afraid we just drank all of the substance in existence. I can make more, but it will take time. I'll be sure to send you a few bottles for tasting once I have the facilities set up.
>> I am afraid we just drank all of the substance in existence. I can make more, but it will take time. I'll be sure to send you a few bottles for tasting once I have the facilities set up.

Yeah me aswell

It's going to be a bit weird to tell him to hold on to that sponsorship for finishing your distillery so you can go and earn some money to help you finish your distillery.

>>2112236
>>2112257
>Spirits

>I am currently refining the means of its production. If you'd like to sponsor my endeavor, I will gladly share with you the secrets of it's manufacture as well as help you build the facilities and tools necessary for it's production on your lands so you can start your own brand of strong drink... for a price.

>>2112236
>Spirits
>I am afraid we just drank all of the substance in existence. I can make more, but it will take time. I'll be sure to send you a few bottles for tasting once I have the facilities set up.

>>2112357
I suppose we could also offer him the opportunity to house part of our start up enterprise as a business proposition. But that would have to take place later down the line when we have less responsibilities and have more manoeuvring room

>>2112367
You probably should know that you don't exactly have any property rights or (any other rights for that matter) save the ones that the Lord of that region says you have.

Properties can be seized and incomes sequestered with or without justification depending on how honorable the Lord is.
The Greyjoy Rebellion would most certainly be a good justification for any lord to take all your investments for himself if you started up a business on his lands. It's as normal as is pillaging the countryside for supplies.

If you wish to start up a distillery for your own, that's entirely doable, but I should also warn you that without sufficient rank and status or political clout, it's almost certainly going to be leaving your hands for good the moment Greyjoy rebellion starts.

If you want to invest on anything. You need a title or a strong patron. Preferably both. It should also be pointed out that Lords can tax you as much as they fucking want. If they think you're making too much money, they can just plunder your enterprise.

>>2112386
Thats pretty gay. Understandable but still really gay.

That stepstone invasion seems like a pretty solid proposition even for the near future methinks.

>>2112236
> Vodka

> I am afraid we just drank all of the substance in existence. I can make more, but it will take time. I'll be sure to send you a few bottles for tasting once I have the facilities set up.


We must protect our secrets for long term benefit rather than a large short term profit. After this trip we can look into creating a larger scale distillery or something but I'd rather we focus on military and naval affairs over alcohol production.

>>2112395
Yep. Once we've got a decent base there we can consider creating a distillery even to be worked by the locals or something but for now, the benefits are outweighed by risks.

>>2112395
Yea my take on the world of Ice and Fire is rather bleak.
Essentially, every single nation in the world is dysfunctional in their own way, but the only alternative to these dysfunctional nations is the rampant, savage rapine that happens outside of their borders.

The so called "free folk" break exchange their shackles of society so they may live with even less comforts than the slaves in a world where everyone must be equally miserable or face the animosity of the tribes less fit to survive who seek to steal all they have and split it amongst each other.

The Kingdoms of Westeros are ruled by bunch of semi-communistic military dictatorships bundled under a much larger dictatorship.

Braavos is arguably least affected by inherent systematic problems as it affords a great degree of freedom to it's citizens, but there's a different sort of problems in there.

The Slave cities obviously live under constant threat of rebellions and as such must cater to the whims of both Mercenary Companies as well as the Dothraki.

Summer Isles have long since been in decline as their traditions of breeding and pacifism have lead to a vast overpopulation on their little island that they solve by having to exile more and more people and no direction other than towards savagery.
Those that survive this fate are certainly not happy.

Then there's always Dany, who recognizes that shit be broke, but she is too incompetent to leave anything but ashes in her wake. She realizes that the city is suffering due to slavers ruling the city, but cannot seem to realize why the slaves she put in charge would be overthrown when she leaves no fighters to enforce that rule.
She gets rid of slavery, but doesn't end the old rulers, leaving them with their lands if they submit.
This also doesn't work because she doesn't realize that almost all the farms are run on slave labor, which means famine will follow.
She later tries to resolve this problem by cultivating trade with her enemies so she can begin importing food.

In this world, there is no happy ending if you don't make one.
The world has largely remained stagnant for thousands of years save for when Valyria was destroyed and world lost a lot of knowledge and the world will remain stagnant for a thousand more years when you're gone if nothing changes.
In a sense, this world is very much like a Limbo

>>2112454
>Summer Isles have long since been in decline as their traditions of breeding and pacifism have lead to a vast overpopulation on their little island that they solve by having to exile more and more people and no direction other than towards savagery.
...How competent are they as farmers and shit? If we're lucky we can use these guys to bulk out our own numbers in non-combat roles when we've secured some land since they seem fairly good for that sort of thing.

>>2112460
Not in the least.
You move any farmer north or south and they need to be reeducated because the crops and soil are completely different.
This is why empires historically expanded east and west, not north and south.

Had Starks decided to fight against Aegon, much like Dorne, they would have been unconquered for this reason. You cannot hold on to land of it produce insufficient food.

>>2112460
Also, there's massive cultural and religious gap between you and they would view you as an uncultured savage because you are white.

You'd have to pull out all the stops if you want to become king of the nibbes

>>2112434
This.

>>2112454
Whatever happened to Valyria anyway? All I know about them is that they made special, magic, steel.

>>2112482
It blew up.
Some say it was a magical nuke.
Some say it was volcanic eruption.
Some say it was a meteor.

What really happened, no one knows.

>>2112434
If you try to start a liquor monopoly and push the myrish off the market, you probably want to get your awareness way, way WAAAY higher what with all the guild assassins you'll be dealing with.

>>2112494
Or invent infared cameras.

>>2112465
True but we mostly need raw numbers. We can have the decent locals educate and lead our farming efforts with these guys forming the raw bulk of the labour.

>>2112475
Okay yeah that too.

>>2112494
True but I want to focus on gunpowder and ships over industry for now so that ain't a risk to me.

>>2112541
Wouldn't it make more sense to sell the boozemakers then? We could invest the moneys on guns.

Moonshine isn't exactly lethal technology and if we are not planning on making an empire with it, why not ditch it?
Best case scenario, we can buy some cheap antiseptics and possible fuel everywhere.

>>2112548
This; refine the design of the still (add all the other bells & whistles we haven't researched yet) then sell the stills, or even the designs for the stills.

>>2112548
Eh, I don't want to lose out on the money we are getting from our current contract. When that is done we can consider doing some invention selling and set up buisnesses.

>>2112550
Nah man. We keep those improvements back and sell them off as we need additional money or when we establish our own distilleries.

>>2112570
You are of low status and persuasion I should remind you.
Good luck opening those doors.

>>2112572
That is what our seemingly interested lord here is for.

>>2112577
Why do you think he would make introductions for you? You are at most a friend of a friend if even that.

>>2112586
He seems interested in having more of our drink. If we can convince him to invest in the production of that and prove his belief right then he'll almost certainly listen if we mention other inventions.


Still though, I'd rather focus on getting ourselves stronger militarily for the eventual conflicts so we can profit. That and if we can get a proper boat we can work on better versions of our inventions while we travel between places. So if it proves too hard, no loss to me since I mostly want to focus on getting more ships, men and then a base of some sort.

>>2112586
If he's pinging our gaydar we could always suck a little dick to get ahead in life.

>>2112688
Whaf makes you think he is on your league?

>>2113163
we are the fuucking mc sees if you don't let us successfully suck his fucking cok then you should fucking kill yourseofl you fucking gay ass faggot you successful gay ass nigger

holy fuck dont' drink after work you fuking cike ass nigger I have fucking autoim

>>2113236
Pls not another homo protag.

>>2113444
He's not gay, but a lord's patronage is a lord's patronage.

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>Spirits
>>2112333
>>2112257
>>2112357

>Vodka
>>2112434
>>2112476

>White Water
>>2112309

It would seem Spirits are winning

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Try to sell em the idea of a Distillery.
>>2112309
>>2112333

Leviticus 20:13
>>2112357
>>2112434
>>2112315
>>2112324
>>2112476

>>2113508
Buncha god damn city boys they are

Anons we're not doing good at all, we're not making money because we're falling into the same trap as every other pigfucker in Westeros. We're guarding our secrets too much, we gotta turn a profit here.

We're acting like paranoid fuckwits instead of businessmen. We need to SELL the idea of a distellery, we NEED to think about our options when presented. So let's stop guarding our secrets, going with just one option, and be considering options presented.

Besides. Selling the idea for a distllery is much more profitable and less risky than a goddamn shipping job for some merchants guild.

tl;dr. Think before voting, and stop acting paranoid and being a dipshit Westerosi

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>Friday update. Don't judge

"Spirits, that's what they're called. Name comes from the method of manufacture. In a sense, they contain the spirits of regular beverages. The exact method of manufacture I'm afraid I cannot yet divulge."

He nods approvingly
"Yes, of course. Something like this would obviously be a trade secret shared only between family members. Still, where who would I talk to getting a box of this stuff into my cellar?"

You give him an apologetic shrug
"I am sorry, but that is all there is. We just drank all the spirits in all of existence. That's the last of the only batch that has ever been made of that drink. It'll take time for me to make some more. Alothough once I get facilities set up, I'll personally send you some bottles for taste testing if you'd like."

He smiles and raises his cup
"I'll look forward to it then."

After the parlor trick of drinking fire from a cup, things sort of quieted down. Sark regaled the audience with tales of slavers, pirates and spicers from the Stepstones until the desserts were served. Slices of blueberry pie with some whipped cream. After enjoying it with relish, people started to head to off.

Whilst you were dining, the servants showed you to one of the guest rooms. Not a particularly large room, but there was at least a decent enough bed. Sturdy old wooden thing with a wool mattress suspended on ropes. Beats sleeping on the ship at least.

It'll still take whole of tomorrow to swap out the cargo, which means that you'll leave in the morning in the day after. Dangerous journey for sure, but you need to make the money somehow. You certainly aren't one of those people who are satisfied with just what they've got.

That means you'll still have one day to spend in this rather magnificent old castle.
During your stay you...

>Try to ask if they've heard any recent news (what about?)
>Chatted up with Randar
>Try to learn about house Corbray while you're here.
>Spend some time in the Lord's study reading. (specify what do you wish to know about?)
>Started reading one of those esoteric books you got (Alchemy, Theurgy, Astronomy?)
>You showed off your guns
>You just enjoyed your time off. (Skip)
>Write-in

Roll for Awareness 3d6

Rolled 6, 6, 1 = 13 (3d6)

>>2113619

>You showed off your guns

Rolled 6, 2, 5 = 13 (3d6)

>>2113619
>>Started reading one of those esoteric books you got (Alchemy, Theurgy, Astronomy?)

Study our alchemy text. See how chemistry works in a world where magic is a real thing.

Also; rolling for awareness.

>>2113623
By guns, it doesn't mean your biceps in this occasion. Although it could if you wanted to.

Rolled 4, 3, 1 = 8 (3d6)

>>2113633
Yes this. Seems like a good idea.

>>2113633
Alchemy isn't chemistry though.

>>2113633
>>2113644

No goddamn it, why?

>>2113619
>Started reading one of those esoteric books you got (Alchemy, Theurgy, Astronomy?)

>>2113659
You can only pick one.

>>2113663
Ill go with alchemy then, seems like the most useful considering our line of work.

>>2113669
Well ambition and skillset rather, not necessarily work.

Rolled 2, 2, 1 = 5 (3d6)

>>2113619
alchemy pls

>These anons voting for alchemy

Why though? Fucking why?

>>2113645
It's a related field, though.

Or it would be if it were real.

>>2113686
If its useless, big whop. We have time that we can bide and learn with. Our advantage is immense, stop putting that dragon dildo up your ass and chill.

>>2113697

See here and think before you vote goddamn it >>2113591

We'd be in a better situation if we weren't acting like morons

>>2113709
Thats just like. Your opinion dude.

Curb your autism.

>>2113591
We can do that after the major revolution that we know is coming since that'd either destroy or make us lose control of any such establishment. Plus we can refine our distillery further so the longer we hold off setting up the bigger our initial output and shit.

Also we are making money. Quite good money all things considered given that we've incurred low costs on this trip ignoring the volley guns and gambelson (which we'd want anyway) since they are a one-time investment.

Fact is once we've done this job the guild will have more reason to trust us and we can see about getting a better ship or something to enable bigger missions and shit.

>>2113633
I'll back this.

>>2113713
This.

The simple fact is we've got a solid plan: get more men, ships and guns. When the revolt comes, fight as a merc and get rich before or after conquering part of the stepstones and create our own mini-empire. Fact is if we can get to 200 men we can start acting as a merc company. Not to mention the potential we have as siege engineers since walls are a serious obstacle without cannon.

>>2113689
Alchemy is a real thing.
It's got three facets to it.
Because treatises on alchemy tend to be so filled with allegory and encryption in form of symbolism in an attempt to keep the idiots who don't know what they're doing away, the layman reads it as if they're talking about transmuting lead to gold and doing all sorts of other mystical stuff.

The learned, spiritual man reads deeper philosophical meaning from it and sees it as a as a ritualistic pursuit of enlightenment and doesn't even consider the pursuit of materialistic gain.

Finally there's the actual scientific facts buried beneath the allegory, the pictures and the colorful speech that can be unlocked after a great deal of study.

"Our Gold Is Not The Common Gold
It is the immortal Gold.
Cheap. Cheap. Cheap.
Despised by fools.
Appreciated by the Wise."

The ASOIAF Alchemy differs from the real life one in the sense that it's extremely difficult to tell apart at which point they're talking about a magical phenomenon and at which part a more natural one.
The truth in Alchemy is hidden under a mountain of lies and many more naive Alchemists might believe some of those lies or who knows? Maybe the Philosopher's stone is a real object rather than a symbolic way to describe spiritual enlightenment?

The rituals remain similiar still to real alchemy and there are factions based around the different philosophies in my take of the Alchemist's guild.

>>2113719
They can't exactly seize your assets if they're liquidated.

If you're not owning distilleries, but rather selling them.
Like you manufacture the complete package which allows the lords to begin production of their own alcoholic spirits, you can keep your operation a lot smaller as you basically just sail to their lands and they pay you to set up the shop.

As your actual business isn't tied to any land, they can neither seize your assets nor sequester your incomes since that sort of thing is beneath them.
They could try to seize your ship and crew for military operations, but I'd assume you'd got enough guns by that point that it's not so realistic of a concern.

>>2113767
Like, it's beneath them because it'd be akin to banditry since they'd be stealing from you without having any claim for it unlike if you'd build on their land.

>>2113767
There is still virtually nothing in place to stop then from confiscating due payments and royalties however. So it would be infinitely more secure and eventually profitable to maximize our modern knowlede and condense all of our production in our domestic hold.

>>2113781
>Royalties
You wouldn't get any in the first place as there simply is no such thing as intellectual property rights.
Also, you obviously wouldn't want to run that business during wartime.

>>2113781
Also, how do you plan on maximizing your knowledge or getting lands with no money, connections or achievements to your name?

If you forever hold your secrets close to your chest, then you will die with them without your greatest achievement being a longship captain who was rumored to have magical powers.

>>2113810
I'm with the anon that we need to make some cash. Gear up our guys, and go through some fights with them.
Always remember put some one we fully trust over some one more capable if the mission is of priority.
Making out vets feel worth while to stick with us. And letting those know we stick with/support our own.
We need to set up a merc army of sorts. With guns we can easily deal with 3-4 times our numbers on land especially when using rotations. And once we create cannons we can do the same with every large ship we install them on.
A line of musketeers shooting every 10 seconds is a scary thing. Even at 10 a line. By the time any enemy gets to our front line we have easily won moral wise.
We should just look into training our men to hold their own for an actual fight. And armor that does well resisting arrows.

>>2113810
Well yeah of course. But I thought we made the plan of acrewing enough dosh to mount an expedition into the stepstones and take our own island. Then we modernize and get good.

>>2113860
Who you going to trade with? You sort of need to establish the connections and the business plan first if you don't want to end up with a failed colony in your hands.

>>2113931
raiding and mercernary work can supplement the initial costs, then bulk exportation to contacts we may make in essos and to merchant princes in essos will ground us.

But really we arent there yet so I cant say for 100 percent certain

and arent you supposed to be writing mate? Get at it! *cracks whip*

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>>2114004
I only tend to lock in votes if it's got 4 votes going for it.
Alchemy's only got 3 I think.

Although I doubt it's really going to change, I don't feel like changing my habits since it there's been many cases where 3 votes is not enough to seal the deal.

>>2114028
Fair enough.

https://youtu.be/mzsdORUPk48
Fun little experiment I found.

To be fair we could probably greatly increase our numbers if we focused on it for a short time. I mean if the mountain tribes are threatening shipping they must have ships of their own which we can almost certainly board, capture and then make use of ourselves either selling them for funds or directly. At the point we have 5 ships crewed and equipped like our current one we'll have 25 volley guns with 50 rowing and firing crews backed by 150 musketmen and whatever else we decide to produce or procure.


At that point we'd be a damn strong force for whomever hires us. Able to pierce the strongest armour and defeat the fiercest charge. Hell throw in a bombard or two and we'd fuck up castles too.

>>2114106
And inventing reasonably effective pinapple grenades would be very easy, as well as to produce them. At that point we could certainly take and hold a stronghold within a day.

>>2114272
Yep. The only potential threats would be sheer numbers overwhelming our fire-rate and supply of gunpowder, a force of long range archers, cavalry (dubious) or a dragon (a fair bit less dubious but still questionable) along with spies and shit.

Although we could counter most of these problems by taking a page from the Mongols and having literally everything mounted either onto a cart or on a horse.

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>Check out my guns ladies. Oh wait.
>>2113623


>Seek to uncover the higher mysteries
>>2113633
>>2113644
>>2113659
>>2113669

Right, I'm going to need 3 separate rolls for this.

Awareness 3d6 for discovering hidden things
Cunning 4d6 for deciphering the allegories
Knowledge 4d6 for figuring out how it could be applied to the real world

We'll start with Awareness.
3d6 Go!

Rolled 2, 5, 2 = 9 (3d6)

>>2115775

Rolled 5, 6, 1 = 12 (3d6)

>>2115775
goodnight faggot.

please make sure there is a lot for me to read tomorrow morning.

>>2115786
You walking an Ostrich or something you daft straya cunt?

Rolled 2, 4, 4 = 10 (3d6)

>>2115775

>>2115791
Probably a sheep shagging kiwi

Then roll the 4d6 for Cunning and Knowledge

Rolled 1, 2, 6, 3 = 12 (4d6)

>>2115860

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I probably should put this up.
>Awareness roll 13
>Pass

>Before retiring for the night, you heard a rather familiar name being mentioned in passing by one of the other guests. Apparently a replacement has been selected to be groomed to take over for the Steward of Lord Lyn when he retires.
>Son of some knight from Braavos that was elevated during the war of Ninepenny kings into the status of a miniscule bannerlord.
>Some nobody named Petyr Baelish.

Yes, I probably should have put up this before you decided to choose what to do while waiting.

Rolled 1, 4, 1, 1 = 7 (4d6)

>>2115860
Rolling for cunning.

Rolled 2, 6, 6, 4 = 18 (4d6)

>>2115860

>>2115913
Not gonna lie, that's a pretty fucking good roll for cunning.

Now to actually see how well you can actually process that "decrypted" knowledge into something you can use.

Rolled 5, 5, 3, 5 = 18 (4d6)

>>2115915

Rolled 4, 6, 5, 2 = 17 (4d6)

>>2115915
Rolling for knowledge.

>>2115917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIQVbxMJWgM

You wanna finish up that last roll?

Rolled 3, 1, 2, 5 = 11 (4d6)

>>2115915

Whilst waiting for the peasants to handle loading up your cargo, you decide to relax a bit and grab one of the esoteric books that you traded some of your esoteric weaponry for whilst enjoying tea in the gracious Lord's Garden.

>12 on discovery of hidden meanings
>18 on deciphering the allegories
>18 on real life application of the knowledge

>????

You took a comfortable position, relaxed and began reading, but what you expected wasn't exactly what you got. You were sort of expecting a short manual on alchemy, but what you got was something else entirely.

Every single sentence was loaded with several layers of hidden meanings and references to things you did not know. You read a sentence once, you get one meaning. You read the page, you get a different one. Finish the chapter and the meaning of that sentence had once again changed for you as you realize it could mean something entirely different.

This book may be a short one, but you could tell that whomever wrote this put a lot of effort making it as hard to read as possible. You are not entirely certain what this book is even referring to with the art of blackening. Spiritual transformation required on the path to enlightenment? Magical art which is the first step towards creating the philosopher's stone? Highly encrypted method of trying to teach the reader about fermentation, acids and distillation?

Only through experimentation and further study could truly lead you towards the true answer, if this book even offers any answers to begin with? For all you know, it could just as well be a catalyst required to push you towards the path of "the art" as it refers to it.

However, as you continued to read through this short little book, you think you found yourself more or less on the same page with the author on many of the things. Going over the book several times, his references to animals and symbols seemed to make more and more sense. You don't know how much of the works of the author are based on reality, but this is indeed a multi-layered book.

It explains the spiritual and physical transmutation of self required in order to practice the most basic form of alchemy and the ritualistic path to reach the state of facing one's own shadows.

It explains that through combination of both understanding of the world and the spiritual elevation of facing one's own shadows leaving behind the undesired parts of himself, he had purified himself, reaching a state of the calcination, the state of body reflected in the state of the mind and the spirit.

"He who feels the Call of the Great Work must be willing to die to be reborn. You must go through each of the Alchemical transmutation stages, which will make him from a man of lead to a man of gold."

>>2115934

Your exploration of the Higher Mysteries shows some promise.

>Congratulations! You've uncovered the secret to create various mineral acids!
>Congratulations! Your understanding of the medieval fermentation and distillation techniques has increased!
>Congratulations! You've discovered a shady-ass ritual which inolves imbibing some weird potion that may or may not kill you!
>Congratulations! You can now make such things as Hydrochloric acid (Spirit of Salts) amongst other things, provided you pay for the materials!

We should acid attack the unburned half of the Hound's face.

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As you finish studying your little book, you stretch out and yawn.
As your awareness of your surroundings returns, you notice another man reading in the gardens as well. Clad in robes and with a necklace of chain with each link forged from different metals hanging from his neck he reacts to you as you close your book and rise by halting his own studies.

Sitting on a table with a heavy tome and a teapot from which emananted the scent of boiled mint leaves he speaks to you.
"It's a good place to read is it not? The light and the wind is just perfect in there."
You give a quick look at your place of relaxing study.
"It seems I've stolen your spot Maester."
He pours some tea for himself.
"Oh worry not. Seeing my reading spot taken is a small price to pay for seeing more highborn willing to take their time studying about the world rather than obsessing over the sport of horseback impalement."
He realizes what he just said and puts up an apologetic expression.
"Apologies if I've offendeded you."
You smile at the odd man.
"None taken there weren't many horses in the Isles."
"Tea?"
"Oh, please."
You offer your empty cup to him that you were drinking from during your studies.
"Maester Narmen"
"Captain Eddard of the Long Night"
"Ah yes, the man with the flaming cups."
"Parlor tricks, nothing more."

The Maester looks over and gives points at your little book.
"Forgive me, but I'm curious, what sort of book would it be that has an Ironborn Captain so enthused?"

>Mind your own business
>Some alchemy book I got from a shady Braavosi
>Lie (Come up with a name for the book)
>Write-in

>>2115953
>Some alchemy book I got from a shady Braavosi
Mention that its very strange but that we got some nice insight out of it. A good purchase.
That way he wont think of buying it off of us.

>>2115953
>Some alchemy book I got from a shady Braavosi

>>2115953
>Some alchemy book I got from a shady Braavosi.
I see no reason not to be truthful.

Whoops
I may have made a mistake. We will see.

>>2115953
>Some alchemy book I got from a shady Braavosi

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> Some Alchemy book I got from some shady Braavosi

"It's an Alchemy tome called the Spirit of Salts, I acquired it from some shady Braavosi."
The Maester laughs
"Trying to figure out how to turn Lead to Gold are you? Sorry, I shouldn't mock. Yes, I believe I too read a tome with that name in the Citadel. Filled to brim with superstitious hogwash covered in complex language and nonsensical allegory."

He extends his hand
"Mind if I take a look?"
You shrug, thinking it probably wouldn't hurt and let him have a gander of your booklet.

He grabs it and flips over a few pages.
"Yes, definitely the same book. I wouldn't waste any more time trying to figure it out. It's just the way Alchemists like to frustrate true seekers of knowledge. They leak out nonsensical Grimoires every now and then that hold not even a shred of truth and then teach their secrets to their apperentices behind closed doors."

He gives the book back to you.
"Don't worry. It's a common trend that the more learned nobles try to pick up an alchemy book at least once in their lives. There is no shame in that."

He goes back and sits on his table.
"You want cold, hard truths, you can find no better place for them in all of Westeros than the Citadel. I recommend you visit if you ever have the chance. It's really one of the few places in Westeros where you can find learned men."

> "Wanna bet I can dissolve gold with the instructions from this book?"
> "I thought it was pretty straightforward once you get past the allegory."
> "Just out of curiosity, is there any reward for contributing to the Citadel?"
> "Since I have a moment of your time, mind doing a quick medical checkup on me?"
> Write-in: (What?)

>>2116136
>"Just out of curiosity, is there any reward for contributing to the Citadel?"
> "Wanna bet I can dissolve gold with the instructions from this book?"

>>2116136
> "Just out of curiosity, is there any reward for contributing to the Citadel?"

>>2116136
> "Just out of curiosity, is there any reward for contributing to the Citadel?"
>>2116152
we should do it in this order
> "I thought it was pretty straightforward once you get past the allegory."
when he doubts us we say
> "Wanna bet I can dissolve gold with the instructions from this book?"

>>2116223
I'll support this.

>>2116227
The latter was more of a suggestion to the other guy, with the top one being my vote but okay we can do that too.

>>2116136
> "Just out of curiosity, is there any reward for contributing to the Citadel?"
> "I thought it was pretty straightforward once you get past the allegory."
> "Wanna bet I can dissolve gold with the instructions from this book?"


I wonder if alchemy is worth the effort on the whole but we can always sell these books once we've read them. Who knows, we might learn to do something that we can't with science.

...*can* we dissolve gold? I thought we just learned how to do some acids; isn't gold insoluble?

If we can dissolve gold then yeah, go for it.

Also; nth-ing the asking about a reward for contributing to the Citadel.

>>2116293
It will give you information in basic chemistry even if you fail to unlock any of the magic shit.

Also, I find it funny how absolutely panicky you guys were about not selling your distilleries to a Lord who is the least likely candidate on spreading around the tech, but you're being so very open with the Maester who has a vested interest in gathering knowledge.

>>2116360
Aqua regia or "king's water" was the name for a mix of hydrochloric and nitric acid that could dissolve noble metals like gold and platinum.

>>2116360
Not if you mix Aqua Fortis and Spirit of the Salts to create Aqua Regia.

>>2116373
we are terrible at reading people I guess. Or we don't get enough to read about people.

>>2116387
Are we naming the drink? I wanted to can it "spirit fire".

>>2116373
Its not that I dont trust him, so much as that I want to control the means of production and reap the benifits tax free with a total monopoly on the product.

>>2116399
You probably should know then that you cannot make Nitric acid without distillation.

Also it's not a monopoly since Myr has had it LOOOONG before you even were born.

>>2116399
Basically, even if you priced Myris wines off the market, they could always just sell their tech abroad in form of their own knowhow of distilleries.

>>2116136
>> "Wanna bet I can dissolve gold with the instructions from this book?"

>>2115854
unfortunately I can't fuck my cousin who has massive boobs.

Obviously in order to remain consistent, I will write it in a way which doesn't exactly reveal how distillation works, but still. I find it strange that you're this open with literally the only guy who would have a vested interest in gathering academic knowledge and spreading it around.

Either way, I'm heading to bed.

>>2116505
You need to stop viewing the world from the suffocating perspective of law and justice

>>2116379
>>2116387
I did not know this. /qst/ taught me something today!

>>2116513
He learns for the sake of learning
Also might be able to recruit him later down the line

>>2116685
Only if you destroy House Corbray and take over their lands or you somehow get him discharged from service. Otherwise he'd be an oathbreaker.

Also, you are making a fair few assumptions on the man's character just from having met him once.

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> "Just out of curiosity, is there any reward for contributing to the Citadel?"
> "I thought it was pretty straightforward once you get past the allegory."
> "Wanna bet I can dissolve gold with the instructions from this book?"


"I think this thing is pretty straightforward once you get through all the allegory and loaded language. I think it might just be their culture to talk like that, kind of like dockworkers have their own lingo."

He chuckles
"Secret wisdoms only for the initiated, right? I've heard that before. I wouldn't put much stock on whatever you learned from that thing."
You look at him smugly and reply
"Wanna put your money where your mouth is?"
He looks amused and a bit intrigued
"Go on."
"This page here, Green Lion devouring the Sun. I'm pretty sure it refers the dissolution of gold. Wanna bet I can pull it off with the instructions from this book and the raw materials that are described in this book?"
He thinks for a moment, as if knowing he shouldn't but at the same time tempted to do it anyway.
"That's all well and good, but what would we be betting on?"

>Gold
>Books
>Something else? (What?)

"By the way, what rewards would there be to contributing to the Citadel?"
He looks at you with a bit of a puzzled expression
"Well that depends what you mean by contributing. The Conclave does frequently pay people who bring them rare books as well as bring them copies of the more in demand books. Although that's primarily for commoners. Nobility tend to deal more in favors and the favor of the Conclave can go a long way as Maesters sort of are in most every court."
He lowers his voice
"So if you come across a collection of books or scrolls, even old records, the Citadel would certainly not forget any such donation."

You think for a moment.
Developing a functional printing press would certainly be a way to earn money or favour with the Citadel depending on how you would utilize it. Of course, you'd have to design one first, but that's a worry for another time.

>>2118622
>Books
>Something else? (What?)
tell us about the lord you work for, he a trustworthy fella? He won't confiscate our stuff if it was making alot of money would he?

Is he gay? (maybe not ask this one...)

What kind of favors are the conclave able to pull?

>>2118630
I should point out that the only books you have to gamble with are the esoteric books and that naturally since you've never done this before, you'd need to actually roll for knowledge to see how well you can pull it off on first try.

Also, if you lose your alchemy book, it means you lose the recipes as well since you didn't exactly memorize them this far.
You could of course re-research them a lot easier.

>>2118622
ehh let's bet on gold. That's something we can recoup easy as.

>>2118646
yeah but isn't that kinda insulting for a guy who deals in knowledge?

Fine I'll support since I can't think of anything else.

>>2118630
Is your lord trustworthy
>Of course my lord is trustworthy and wonderful and he is always truthful, forthcoming and honest with his peoples. Certainly my lord would never abuse his position for personal gain like some sort of scoundrel.

Is he gay
>He doesn't take it in the butt if that's what you're asking.

What kind of favors are the conclave able to pull?
Ok, now this is something I could actually realistically answer.
The Conclave has connection to more or less every single Maester in existence.

This means they have the ear of almost every single important person in existence.
This means that if you say... Wanted to go and convince one of the Lords Paramount to swear vassalage to them, they could possibly make that meeting happen with just their recommendation.
It would be up to you to actually convince them that you're worth the job though.

There's also the issue of educated labor.
Learned men aren't that common in Westeros.
You've got the guys in the guilds who are the only specialists in their fields, but the quality of their craft wildly varies due to the nepotism.

You've got the Maesters who know a bit of everything, but usually more than most about those subjects that then study into the role they're put into. Essentially they've got a general civilizing education with whatever they've researched. Their education is paid for by the clients, so you can get idiot Maesters as well who just had their links bought and paid for.

Then you've got the learned men who received religious education. These guys know how to read and they're a lot less bookish than the Maesters but tend to be pretty talented since the clergy only pays for education of those who are promising.

The Maesters control the largest source of accumulated knowledge in the Seven Kingdoms in the form of Library of the Citadel though and their prestige as a font of knowledge does go a long way when people ask which guild should they hire for which job.

Couple of things that I terms people ought to understand.

Honor
Literally means how much you care about how people think of you. If you are thought of highly, people think you're honorable. Honor is not synonymous with conscience. Being obsessed with one's image is Honorable and that's essentially the moral system feudal world operates on.

Conscience
This is the thing that Tyrion has. It's the moral sense of right and wrong. Almost every single noble values honor over Conscience. Indeed, nobility who act with Conscience are few indeed. Those that do tend to fail. Good players who play the Grand Game know which pieces they need and which they don't and are quick to discard those that no longer have use to them at the first chance given.

Prestige
This is the thing that generally speaking views your value to society itself. The more prestigious you are, the more valuable people think you are. The more valuable people think you are, the more they care about what you say. The more they care about what you say, the more likely they're to ask or give favors to you.

Fame
This is the thing that measures how much people talk about you. The more famous you are, the more likely people are to try and seek you out just because they're curious about you. Prestige and fame do not always go hand in hand.

Favors
Though not always honored, they are a currency far too valuable to ignore. Gold can only achieve so much and after certain point, you realize that your gold only exists for the purpose of generating favors with the right people in order to not only maintain your position, but also to grow in strength.
Once you start dealing with exchanges between settlements, between towns, between cities, between fiefs. Gold begins to lose it's value rapidly as things that simply cannot or should not be bought with gold start to become more common.
The higher up you go, the less wealth will be associated with stores of mere coin.

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>>2118622
Bet on

>Something else

Specifically; a favour to be named at a later date. This fellow may be able to get us in good with the Citadel at some point.

Also; would the Citadel *really* welcome the advent of the printing press, a device whose primary purpose is the quick and easy dissemination of information? When their entire position is based on having a monopoly on such information?

Status
The story of nobles who simply ended up being pushed out from high society is all too common. Either they fell out of favor or simply no longer had anything that anyone else was interested in because they were either too incompetent to hire or too untrustworthy or otherwise not worth having in one's court.

Being forgotten by the high society to a nobleman is nearly equal to a death sentence as they will hit a brick wall. Sure, they may no longer be involved in any of the schemes of the highborn, but they will no longer enjoy any of the rewards that came with navigating that territory.

Even when they manage to find something that their noble friends might benefit from, loss of status is a hefty blow to a nobleman. Markets dictate that your product is only worth as much as you can sell it for. When nobody's willing to buy from you, any product you have in your hands suddenly isn't worth a dick.

You are not of high enough status that you can casually mingle with the lords, so don't take the ability to meet with important people for granted. They will in all likelihood, simply refuse to see you like all so many would be sycophants because you're not important enough.
Unless you prove yourself worthy, your opportunities will remain few.

>>2118677
Not if you you try to horn in on their territory.
If you try to upset their oligopoly position on the sale of literature, they will try their best to make sure you're a social leper.

If you instead work with them, such as selling them printing presses or offering them such a copying service, without trying to cut in on their market share, they'd most likely welcome it.

The Citadel would naturally have some books they'd never copy to anyone, but with printing press the Maesters that do exist on the field could all have the exact same set of books with the fraction of the price since they'd be more available.
This would be of value to them as it makes their job a lot easier.

Also, Maesters are the primary clients of the Citadel Library, so the less the Maesters themselves copy books, the more books the Citadel can sell to them, which means if they can drop the prices enough, they will be increasing the demand for certain commonly desired tomes.

>>2118677
But yea, if you want to get good on with the Citadel through a favor, it's a simple enough matter of writing a letter of recommendation for him.

That would more or less guarantee you one meeting with an Archmaester

>>2118683
Well then super-duper, Gary Cooper! That's the bet; a letter of recommendation to the Citadel vs... I dunno, a sloppy blow jibber or whatever he wants.

>>2118622
>Books
We can get good with the citadel under our own prowess. We dont need a favor unless we want a spy network or something.

>>2118622
>Gold

>Hands of Gold are always Cold

Give me that 4d6 for knowledge then, I'll whip it up tmorro

Rolled 4, 2, 2, 5 = 13 (4d6)

>>2119294

Rolled 4, 5, 6, 4 = 19 (4d6)

>>2119294

Rolled 2, 3, 1, 3 = 9 (4d6)

>>2119294
Rolling for knowledge.

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Welp, I guess your potions are pretty fucking strong then.

Invent printing press. Buy rare book. Copy repeatedly. Sell piece meal to lords and/or Maesters at exorbitant prices. rinse and repeat... Profit?

>>2119866
Wouldn't it make more sense to copy popular books instead? At least people buy those and you don't need to hunt for book collectors.

Wouldn't the value of the book plummet anyway since its value comes from rarity?

>>2121235
The idea is that you're not gonna reveal you have a machine that can pump out millions of copies at barely any cost, so you'd still sell them like it was hard to make them when in reality it was cheap af.

>>2121282
>Millions of copies
How the fuck are you planning to get an industrial grade printing press, paper mills and pigment industry?

>>2121290
I was just exagerating king aerys of the autisms.

>>2121291
You gotta use your words carefully. Otherwise someone might misunderstand you and dump a bucketful of wildfire on you because you thought they were planning on lynching your son.

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>Gold

[1/3]

"Gold would be a fairly straightforward bet, right?"
He looks at you little disappointed.
"What? I'm not a man who bets things he can't afford to lose."
"No, no, I think that's a good policy. Still, gambling for money is a bit plain don't you think?"
You shrug
"Seems to work for the enthusiasts of horseback impalement."
He chuckles at this
"True enough, true enough. So how much do you think betting on this?"
"How about the cost of a suit of plate armor? 10 gold dragons ought to be good."
He thinks for a moment.
"Yes, I believe such an amount of coin ought not to be too outlandish for either of us. I'll let you borrow the materials from my laboratory for it."

He guides you to his little office room. On the table there were weights, scales, cups of various sizes, mortar and pestle and some glass containers clearly labeled with their contents. He also had a full bookshelf, indicating that he clearly had the funding to back up his confidence.

"Rock salts, Alum, Lime, Saltpeter and Green Vitriol, these are what I believe were described in the books. Can I borrow some of the glass containers as well?"
He shrugs
"As long as you clean them up afterwards and don't break them, it's fine by me. Not that I couldn't buy new ones with the Gold I'm about to win, but it's still an inconvinience."
"Thanks. I'll head to my ship and get to work. We'll see at dinner whether or not this book had any truth to it or whether alchemy is just hogwash."
He waves you away.
"How mysterious. Go on then. Do your little rituals or whatever you need to do in order to conjure this water of the kings."

You headed back to your ship and got to work. Your little still needed a bit modification to work, but you managed to get it working. The results... were not exactly as you'd liked it.
As you began making the acids, you came to an unfortunate realization. Copper is soluble with Nitric Acid. This means that your little still would be unusable for this sort of work.

>Knowledge 19

However, you did manage to come up with a quick makeshift solution. It only needs to work once, so you bought some clay pots of the right shape in order to make a makeshift alembic to create your acids. Now, you had no idea if this would work, but you were running out of time. There was no proper gas seal, but fuck it. You just needed to gather the fumes.

The Calcinated Alum, The Saltpeter, the Green Vitriol were all heated in your makeshift Alembic to produce the "Primal Water". The fumes were harvested, cooled and stored, a substance that if the book is to be believed, should be able to dissolve silver.

The Spirit of Salts you managed to create through bubbling the fumes of the Rock Salt through your normal still before damaging it with the Primal Water.

Primal Water mixed with the Spirit of the Salts ought to be able to produce the water of the Kings. All that remains is wait for the dinner to unveil this little concoction.

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>>2121306
[2/3]

The spread was lavish as it was yesterday and many of those present were already eating as you and Maester Narmen approached Lord Lyn Corbray.

"Forgive us for disturbing your dinner oh Lord, but there's been a bit of a disagreement we'd hope you'd give us a helping hand in."
Lord Lyn has a look of being on the edge between annoyance and curiosity as Maester Narmen addresses him
"You see, me and Captain Eddard had a little bet and I hope you could be a witness to us as we solve which of us were right."
His annoyance fading a bit, he asks
"What sort of bet was this?"
"It was a simple one. He bet me he could melt gold with the information he peered from some shady alchemy manual. I bet him he couldn't."
He claps his hands and smiles at the two of you
"More parlor tricks then?"
"We shall see won't we? The Price of this bet was 10 Gold Dragons to be paid for the winner of the bet. We were hoping that you, as a third party, would produce the coin which we would be testing this on."
He waves at the direction of a servant.
"Get the pouch we seized from the smuggler."
Upon receiving his pouch, he grabs some foreign looking tiny gold coin and flicks one over to Maester Narmen who catches it.
"Now, since this is a refreshing change of pace from the normal tedium, if anyone else feels like betting as well on the result of this, now is the time."

Apparently gambling was not just something that was done by sailors and pirates. Nobility too seemed to enjoy the game of chance just as well. Maybe that explains why there's so many blood feuds that the families have with eachother?

As Lord Lyn states that, Captain Sark eagerly yells out.
"20 Dragons on Captain Teach! Any takers? ANY TAKERS!?"
As you turn your head to the direction of the excited yelling, you see Stallonos smile smugly at this scenario.
Locke and Stallonos seemed to be perfectly happy of taking on that bet.

After a few moments of bets being placed by the people standing at the hall, you began your work.
You took the two chemicals you'd concocted and poured them together into one of the glass jars, sealing it with the cork and give it a good shake, creating a liquid with a distinct orange hue.

You drop the tiny golden penny into the liquid and place the glass jar into the table as everyone watches the little coin just bubble away in your solution.
The Maester watches as the little coin dissolve as the liquid begins to turn more yellowy as he does his best to keep a poker face.
Lord Lyn smirks
"It would seem that the Coin is indeed gone. Captain Eddard wins the bet."

As you look at the reactions, you saw plenty of self-satisfied looks as well as sour faces of those who were annoyed for backing the wrong horse.
Captain Sark was rubbing his hands with a shiteating grin.

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>>2121307
[3/3]

After the little parlor trick, Dinner ended up proceeding rather quietly. Maester Narmen seemed rather skeptical whether or not you actually procured that substance from your ship or actually made it yourself today. However, he wasn't such a poor sport as to call you a straight out cheater. He simply implied it strongly.
You did get the money off him in the end though.


As you were about to retire for the day, the candles in your room suddenly all go out.
Immediately following that, there was a knock on the the door.
It was the shady book dealing Braavosi.
"Good evening Stallonos. I must say, the book has already paid itself off quite marvelously."

He had a bit more tense look on his face.
"Do you still have the water of the kings?"
"I might do. What's it to you?"
"What do you want for it?"
"You mean the recipe or the actual physical object?"
"Both."

>How do you reply?

>>2121308
Shit what kind of value does it have?

>>2121315
You could always try and ask him why he wants it before making the final decision.
Not that you have any reason to trust anything that he says.

>>2121308
Ask him what he is willing to pay, because it would have to be a great deal to run afoul of the Alchemists. And I say run afoul because they are clearly unwilling to sell it to him outright so he had to pass around the book and see if anyone else could figure it out.

Then try to buy it off them.

>>2121308
>As diplomatically as possible: "What do you want it for?"

>>2121319
This sounds good

>>2121319
Just FYI, Alchemist's guild isn't somewhere that just anyone can pop up at and buy a ton of wildfire or something.
Some random Braavosi wouldn't probably get within 10 feet of the guild hall before being arrested for skulking around Crown assets.

Though the Crown utilizes the Guild of Alchemists a lot less than they used to, the guild almost exclusively deals through the Crown. They were kept under a tight leash during the Targaryen reign and now even tighter still during Robert's reign.
Ned Stark, Jon Arryn, Robert Baratheon and Jaime Lannister all are united in their distrust and dislike for that organization, which means that they're on thin ice.

Also, you don't know if the book you got even came from the guild in the first place. For all you know, the Alchemist's guild has forgotten how to produce Aqua Regia if they ever even knew about it, along with so much more that they've forgotten over the years.

>>2121338
Fair point, but his request reminds me of when the faceless men ticked a maester to be to hand over a book from is keeping and then killed him. The more caution the better.

>>2121343
Well, you don't know if he's a faceless man either if that's what you're insinuating.
No, you can't roll awareness for that. Yours is too low for that.

>>2121349
Of course not, but a shady man wanting a secret way to melt gold is fairly suspect.

>>2121307
>yellowy
Whoops, it was supposed to turn reddish, not yellowy.

>>2121355
It's not melting gold. It's dissolving it.
There's a difference.

>>2121399
Maybe he wants to sneak into a treasure house and dissolve all the gold, or some other fell deed.

>>2121405
Or you know, throw some aqua regia at a dragon to see it dissolve.

>>2121407
...would that work?

>>2121449
I don't think so.
But a stronger acid might work, especially if we keep it in some glasses stored in the stomach of a dead goat for them to chomp into.

>>2121453
At that point though we might as well make it an actual bomb or poison.


Anyhow, I'm for telling him how we did it since it shouldn't be too dangerous. I mean, seriously, it's only the ability to create a few acids and dissolve some noble metals. He clearly doesn't understand the alchemy behind it and if we are vague enough, merely explaining how to create the result rather than the method behind it, he shouldn't actually learn too much.


FUCK CAPATCHA

>>2121457
Better to sell him just the acid, that way if he wants more he has to come to us.
Also we could buy back our handguns most likely.
Stop the proliferation of arms.

>>2121462
The proliferation of arms is no issue as already discussed. As to the acid, he seemingly wants the recipe as well as any of the substance.


FUCK CAPATCHA

>>2121399
Is there any commercial application for dissolved gold in the 7 kingdoms?

And let's ask him what he wants it for
>>2121471
>>2121462
And I'm game for selling a few batches of it

>>2121449
The Dragon probably would be reasonably pissed until all the acid had either vaporized or neutralized if you threw Aqua Regia at it.

Splash it on it's eyes and it's pretty likely you blinded the bugger.

In fact, Aqua Regia is a substance so nasty that amateurs with no experience working with Acids would likely blind themselves or otherwise fuck themselves up with the stuff due to the fumes.

You as a Metalworker had to have some experience with using acids for cleaning up your machinery from contaminated lubricants, so you knew how to take the necessary precautions.

Due to the danger and expertise required to create and handle the stuff, it's not far off to call it the King's Water as few others could afford to acquire it should they ever need it.

>>2121482
If you are interested in the commercial application of acids, it's usually fairly simple.
Purification and refining of materials as well as chemical tests.
Iridium and Osmium are substances that are refined from platinum with Aqua Regia for example.

Indeed, with acids you could experiment to create steel alloy which by its very base properties would be far superior to the castle forged stuff as it largely need not even be forged.

This of course would require a laboratory.

>>2121499
It would also require prior knowledge of those substances or at least a theory that they were potentially extractable. So it's doubtful that is his motivation...


Fuck it, let's give him it in return for either some more books, a ton of money or something.

Sell it, its just some acid

>>2121603
>>2121683
Secrets are power mates. Lets just sell the bottle we have now. He might be able to reverse engineer it, but if he does than good for him. The recipe is a different story However, others already probably know since its a really simple recipe and is in a beginners book, but hey we could capitalize further if we didnt have more undue compitition eh?

>>2122130
>Reverse engineering chemicals
>285 AC
Why the fuck does everyone initially think that you can just reverse engineer fucking everything?
If it was that simple, he could just swipe the fucking jar from you and bail.

Do you honestly think the methods of scientific testing are so advanced in a medieval setting which has generally speaking regressed in it's technological level that one could simply reverse engineer, well, anything?

Sure you'd probably be able to figure out the function of an item after a careful study and examination, but as to actually replicating it? How the fuck would they even go about doing that? Exactly who would even have such a skill set?

>>2123037
Holy shit just tell us what he wants it for so we can justify charging him through the roof.
Gimmie monies.

>>2123073
Do I need to know you are going to murder a king with a penny to charge you 50$ for a penny?
We charge what we think it is worth at most, and then we haggle. the fucker may haggle either way whether we give to high or to good a price for its perceived value.
Assume he can pay for it. And we charge out the nose for it. I just do know What say our expenses to create it is.
Since no one else likely has the recipe.
100 x expenses +
No one else likely has anything like this x10 Per bottle. and for the recipe if you guys want to sell it x1000 or a trade depending on what this person can provide. Say get us in touch with something we need 5 faceless men to work for us for a year sworn to their god to serve and protect us from all threats or 3 of them for 3 years
make up your mind people.

>>2123073
Maybe he needs it to get chipotle stains off his underwear

How much do we think its worth to him anyhow? Would this guy pull a gun on us and rob us if we asked too much?

>>2121308
>your gonna have to pay for the recipe mate. But as for the bottle ill sell it to ya for (((jew roll)))

>What you offering for it? (Sell)
>>2121319
>>2121336
>>2121683
>>2121462
>>2123678

>What do you even want it for dude?
>>2121321

>Fuck no brah, recipe is mine
>>2122130

Btw, there is no such thing as a beginner's book for alchemy. They are all designed to keep newcomers away.
Works of Blackening are just the starting point for the great work.

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>Greatest Ally

"Well, you approached me. How about you make an offer first."
He looks around nervously
"Look, I need that for my work and I have not much on me to offer you."
He pulls something from his pocket
"I do have this however."
He pulls out a pamphlet from his pocket

[THE STARRY WISDOM LIBRARY]
[CATALOGUE OF THE GREATEST OCCULT BOOK AUCTION OF ALL TIME]

"This is an exclusive event for the chosen few. I have already spent more than I can afford in that place."
You go flip through the pamphlet and it lists a fair few shady looking titles, including volumes on necromancy and qohorian demonology and blood rituals.

"I could arrange a way for you to get into the auction. Rather unique opportunity wouldn't you say? Normally only members are allowed in, but you could use my invitation and go in my stead."

You think for a moment
"Why not just offer me some more of your books?"
He sighs
"Because I need the ones that I have for my work. I cannot sell them, but the auction offers more than I could."
"I doubt I am much better off in terms of gold than you."
He laughs
"I suppose you aren't, but Gold isn't the only thing one can bid."

Rather a strange and suspicious deal.
"Can you elaborate what do you even need it for?"
"I'd rather not if you don't mind. It is better not to ask such questions from fellow practicioners."
Practitioners?

> Purchase the Invitation to the Braavosi Occult Book Auction
> Keep your invitation, just let me go through your books when we get back and we'll call it even
> Nope.jpg
> Write-in

>>2123719
How much time do we have before the auction? We probably want to be fairly wealthy before turning up, even if gold isn't everything.

>>2123733
It is an annual event which happens at the change of every year.
You'd have around 3 months or so to make it to this year's solstice auction, of course, you could skip it this year and go next year.

Provided you don't wreck your ship or something, you ought to still be able to complete the errand, collect the money and still make it to the solstice festivities in Braavos even if you go with your shitty longship.

>>2123738
>>2123745
Alright, in that case I'll vote for
> Purchase the Invitation to the Braavosi Occult Book Auction

>>2123719
> Purchase the Invitation to the Braavosi Occult Book Auction

We can sell aqua regia, spirits and guns for books and gold when we get there.


>>2123745
How much longer are we expecting the current contract to take? What profit after expenses (crew pay / rations) are accounted for should we have assuming we make good time?

>>2123719
> Purchase the Invitation to the Braavosi Occult Book Auction

>>2123848
Well, it takes couple of weeks to take back to Gulltown, but if you are heading to both of the stops, let's see...

1 day to unload
1 day to load
about a week to make it to the first stop and back

2 days on another switch
about 10 days for themnext back and forth trip

2 days on final switch until heading to Gulltown

soo... approximately 40 days of work if you don't call it short and hit it to gulltown, which should give you a couple of months of leeway to make it to Braavos, which should be a couple of weeks as well to make it there.

If you discover inconsistencies, do point them out, I don't refer to my previous writings most of the time as that is time consuming and because I don't like to read what I write save for the occasional notes.

>>2123719
> Write-in
Ask for the rights to use his ship for the next three months, and during which we collect 90% gross profit but pay wages for crew and maintenance.

If he says no then
> Purchase the Invitation to the Braavosi Occult Book Auction

>>2123719
I say go for it.
The worse he could do with it is burn someone's eyes out

>>2124302
hue

>>2125596
>>2124302
Or he might burn the spiders balls

>>2124302
I see its a jump start on modern British culture.

>>2125609
those are long gone friend

>>2125609
It would be quite a slap on the face if you just went and picked up Varys' little birds and auctioned off their balls to the weird cultists.

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Church of Starry Wisdom... Where have you heard that name before? Hmm...
Still, this is an opportunity to gain access to literature forbidden in most of Westeros and Braavos isn't that far away.

> Purchase the Invitation to the Braavosi Occult Book Auction

You look upon the cataloque. You probably cannot afford to buy many items on this list depending on how wealthy the members of this sect are.
"Hmm..."
"Just to clarify, when you say that you don't need to bid with gold, what do you mean."

As you state that, he starts to look a bit uncomfortable. His voice quiets to a whisper as he starts explaining.
"You bring the items to the high priests that you wish to pawn off. Gold, Books... Other things... Contracts and Favors sometimes as well can be traded for tokens."
"The tokens can only be used in the auction and will not be refunded."

Strange system.
"So... how exactly do I know that I won't get outbidded on everything and lose everything?"
"You do not. All you know is the starting bid."

You look at him with a bit of suspicion.
"Fine, you got my curiosity. I'll accept the trade."
"Excellent. Wonderful."
He relaxes as you say those words.
"Then, the recipe and the substance?"

You procure the completely sealed jar where you poured the substance.
"You'll have to drill through the clay to get it out at this point. Didn't want to take any chances with the humors."
He grabs the jar with a grin.
"Then the recipe?"
"It's just Strong Water and Spirit of Salts mixed together in a ratio of 1 to 3."
"and how did you make those?"
"Don't you know? The book you gave to me explained how to make those."
He looks at you skeptically and annoyed.
"That is not true. I have gone through that volume several times. It only skims the beginning of the Art of Blackening, but it only has but a single ritual of putrefication contained within which allows one to begin the practice of alchemy upon reaching the state of whiteness."
He must be referring to that weird recipe for 'Facing one's Shadows'

"Whatever, I'll just write down how I did it. You figure the rest of it out."
You grab a few pieces of parchment and use the desk in your room to write the step by step instruction on creation of the Aqua Regia.

Once you are done, you hand it over to Stallonos.
"This is it."
He immediately begins on skimming through it.
"Yes and what of the ritual?"
"You can wear silly wizard hats and robes while you do it I guess. What do I care?"
He looks at you mildly annoyed
"Look, it's the same deal as with the guns. It just works. Don't question it."
He looks at you, wondering whether or not to believe you. He pockets the recipe nevertheless.
"You will find the instructions as well as the items necessary for entering the solstice auction in your ship tomorrow morning."

He leaves the room and you are left to wonder what sort of meaning did he draw from the book.

Will continue on writing later.

Right, I need some 1d100
The Higher the better

Rolled 22 (1d100)

>>2125710

>>2125711
Well... I guess things could be worse.
You wanna roll and see what the weather is like?

>>2125715
That's 1d100 as well btw

Rolled 72 (1d100)

>>2125715
Sure.

>>2125735
Fuck.

Another one to see whether it's fog, rain, snow, sleet or hail.

Rolled 51 (1d100)

>>2125739
>inb4 everyone ends up dying horribly at some point because of my shit rolls.

>>2125745
Well, it's not like we didn't already raise a Death flag by chatting up with a foreigner I am pretty sure worships an evil multidimensional deity, considering that Church of Starry Wisdom is a sinister cult from Haunter in the Dark by HP Lovecraft.

>>2125745
I bet its fucking rain too.
And we get Ambushed

Rolled 1, 2, 3, 2 = 8 (4d6)

This is a Stealth roll for the clansmen

Wanna roll for your Awareness and see if you cannot beat that?
3d6

>Roll d100 to determine whether the precipitation is fog (01-30), rain/snow (31-90), or sleet/hail (91-00).

>>2125759
It's rain alright.
Rest in Benis

Rolled 6, 2, 6 = 14 (3d6)

>>2125791

At least you aren't caught with your pants down.

Rolled 5, 5, 6 = 16 (3d6)

>>2125791
Rolling for awareness of the apparently Mr. bean-like clansmen.

>>2125842
I guess we're aware of them, their numbers, their positions, their current emotional states, their thoughts, their hopes, their dreams, their secret racist opinions, etc. ect.

>>2125844
Maybe if you rolled like 30.

Rolled 1, 1, 1, 5 = 8 (4d6)

Let's see if their scouts saw you as well.

>>2125856
I'm going to take that as a no.

>>2125859
I'm telling you; Mr. Bean clansmen.

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Come morn, you and the rest of the Captains made haste to set sail to not waste sunlight. Hopping in your ship, you checked your belongings. Someone had placed under the boards of your dedicated spot and without the realization of the crew no less a bag.

Inside the bag you found an eerie looking mask, a pitch black robe, some sort of necklace, a ritual knife and a ring. There also was a notebook containing a series of replies you apparently needed to know by heart before entering the auction.
You all the items into a strongbox. It's probably best if nobody sees that you have these things.
This is a lot less innocent than a mere alchemy book.

>Awareness – Success
>Myrish Lenses – Distance

Your convoy spent some fairly uneventful days of sailing through the valley towards the first checkpoint. Your drudgery was broken as you spotted some sleepy clansmen in the distance on your routine scanning of the perimeter with your Myrish Lenses. You also spotted the scheme which the clansmen seem to employ in order to take over the enemy ships.

Apparently, some of them had neglected to properly cover up their ships, thus revealing their hand. They had at least a couple of ships what you could tell hoisted up the hill on both sides of the river, ready to be ridden down the hill on any passing ships, taking them from the sides.

Whilst your convoy was moving on, you ordered your men to prepare for battle and signaled the rest of the fleet to do the same. Weapons were loaded and everyone was ready to fight.
As your fleet moved onwards, you suffered a rather unfortunate turn of events. You noticed that the dark clouds hanging from the sky had started to rain.
Rain + Gunpowder = Very little boom boom

The Clansmen had blocked the river with their stolen ships.

'He who relies on magic is fighting with a glass sword. That's how the saying goes doesn't it?
So, what to do in this scenario.
Enemy is in the front, blocking the river and the only way forwards is through them.
There's Clansmen on the hills ready to Vinland Saga their way down to the river with multiple ships.

It's fight or flight
>Retreat. Leave the Convoy to fend for themselves.
>Hold your position on the Convoy. Guns or no, you won't run from a fight.
>Other (write-in)

>>2125895
>Hold your position on the Convoy. Guns or no, you won't run from a fight.
>Write-in
Get a sheet of iron, a plate cuirass or something similar, under a tarp of some sort. Heat the iron until it was unpleasantly hot to the touch but not absolutely scorching. Spread out wet powder on hit iron and let it dry.

Alternatively, since that's risky, quickly get the kegs of gunpowder under a tarp. Have the men scoop out the layer of wet material to get to the dry. Then very carefully reload any mucked up muskets. If we can keep the men sheltered they should still be able to fire.

>>2125895
How many ships on the hills? What number of clansmen are we looking at?

>>2125907
Assuming we can get something like this working, I support it. At the very least we might be able to get a few volley-gun barrages into them before we're out of good powder.

>>2125907
this, I mean there is no way that all of our powder is wet/that we can`t fire anything. We might be severely nerfed right now but we can still fight.

>>2125907
You do not have any metal armor because you didn't buy any. Your plates and bowls are primarily wood as well.
Also, you don't have a kitchen in your longship, which means you don't really have any sort of firepit or something on your longship that you could use for that sort of thing anyway.

Main issue is really that when lock mechanisms are damp or wet, they keep misfiring most of the time as you aren't using percussion caps, but rather flintlocks.
Also, with the match cords getting damp, you're going to have problems igniting them or keeping them lit for the volley guns as well.

You didn't exactly make locks for the volley guns as they are a rushed production model.

>>2125919
You don't know their exact numbers, but each ship on the river more or less matches your own crew in numbers.
You yourself only could spot two that were poorly covered up. There might be one or two more that you couldn't see.
You could tell however that they did try to make sure they weren't spotted.

You have no idea how many Clansmen are on the hills asides their scouts.

>>2125926
So what you are saying is our guns are going to be firing infrequently and unpredictably if at all?

>>2125931
Okay so we're fucked in terms of numbers but if we're lucky the reason they're relying on stealth might be a lack of experience and gear. If we are lucky we can blitz a ship or two, secure a flank and hold the line long enough for them to decide to disengage or for us to fire off a volley from our guns.

>>2125938
>So what you are saying is our guns are going to be firing infrequently and unpredictably if at all?
This is correct.
Basically, misfire bumps your unit's turn down the line a bit if they roll 4 or less.
They will attempt to carry out the order again if they have the time, but the enemy will take their turn carrying out their orders while your units misfire.

Any misfire orders that end up at the last of the turn list immediately mean that the order was a failure.

Essentially if you get 3x rolls to shoot your muskets and they all misfire and the enemy unit manages to finish taking all his turns, the turn ends and leaders can give out new orders.

Btw, you cannot exactly give orders to the other ships. You don't have radios.

>>2125895
>How long has it been raining?
>Is the powder already wet, or merely in danger of becoming so?
>Why Do our troops not yet know the importance of keeping thier powder dry?

>>2125907
This.