>>1733940
>And also new betrayals and the growing strength of enemies as you continue your bid to lead your people to supremacy, in a world of other great peoples and empires.
keikakus are much harder than it looks

>>1733940
You have returned home following your trip to the NCR. Your RV is heavy laden with goods, clothing, entertainment. Mostly for your wives, but a few for the common people.

You wonder if they might not ehm, one day want to also be tourists to the NCR.

The news of the NCR's counter attack has you wondering. If you act, should you act within the coming days? The war has been going on for almost four years now since you left Hoover Dam. It was 4 years that Caesar took before he could recover strength to challenge the NCR at Hoover Dam, and it was a resounding victory (with no small part, due to you). And with the Legion 50 miles from the NCR capital. . .

---

Meanwhile, the hubologists make themselves at home.

They are quite thankful, and willing to work hard. A lot of them are quite smart and willing to work as scientists, the rest who aren't are fine as farmers. Almost everyone else is a farmer.

Sam has taken to reading some of the books taken from the NCR library.

You have a number of books and things you are adding to the public school, which is still rather low tech but effective enough to leave no one completely illitrate. But it could use some sciencing.

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>>1733993
>AHS-9
"Thank you firebird, for allowing us shelter in your land.

The Great Wheel rolls on thanks to you.

We are amazed by what you have built here, but most of all, by your crashed vessel from the stars.

I had never before thought I might see a Zetan sky fortress. Much less a working Zetan chariot as the one you have parked on your airfield.

The Zetans were masters of Zetan Radiation. An ancient and mysterious race, as wise as they cruel and unfathomable. They are not of the Star Father's creation, yet they were the first to harness the cleansing radiation. Thus their minds are exceedingly wise, and they are immune to neurodynes. Look what they can accomplish with such ability.

We would like to set up a home and a study in the fortress. But. . .we see that even here the talons of the Dragon are embedded."

What he means to say is that the Chinese are currently squatting in the Alien mothership and using it to their advantage. But the hubologists would like some of the facilities they are in. The Chinese prefer to use them instead.

>Brain
"Seems to me like you'll have to choose who you want using the alien craft.

Or just build a laboratory for the hubologists using alien parts. But that would be expensive to replicate."

>Hubologist
"The Chinese promise you an army bearing alien technology.

I promise you weapons far more powerful than those of energy and light. The power of Zeta Radiation and of Neurodyne dispersal."

You could always just hold off on a decision for now.

10 Bastion Hazard Heavy Bots are produced

Work on the improved farms continues. I was not sure whether you wanted the Greenhouses or the Underground farms, but simply continue them in the next action. I will account for progress. Information on both choices has been given last thread.

You have built a (Tiny) cloning lab but to get any real use it will need to be made bigger. You have discovered Gallasaurus Rex and Super Cows.

>>>>>Food: Average (Rising) [CAP: Average]
Passive Booze Ration: Low (higher for soldiers)
>>>>>Water: Average (Stable) [CAP: Average]
>>>>>Medicine: Above Average (Stable)
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Metal (Below Average) Fissile (HUGE+++)
Scrap Wood (tiny)
Special Electronics (---) Hygiene Supplies (Abundant) Booze (---) [Falling] Alien Tech Scraps (low) Hexcrete Bags (Above Average)
Plant Material (Tiny)
Trona Minerals (Low)
>>>>>Fuel: Airplane Fuel (Low) Ethanol (uses Food)
>>>>>Total Pop: 252 Humans (and companions) +55 Infants +40 Mutants/Nightkin, 2 Ghoul
>>>>>Total Armaments (proportionate to the total pop) Below Average
>>>>>>Weapons: Type (Subtype, Amount, Condition)
(Mercenary) - Moderate
-Energy Firearms
(Human Plasma/Laser) - Below Average
(Alien) - Below Average
(Chinese Alien-Jurry Rigged) - Below Average
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional (Below Average) Energy (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor/Uniforms:
(OW American Infantry Armor, Moderate, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Uniforms, Moderate, Intact)
(7 Alien Bounty Hunter Armor)
(7 Alien Bounty Hunter Big Rifles)
(35 Dr. Mobius Scrubs + Dr. Mobius Glasses)

>OUTPOSTS<
--CHINA RANCH--
++Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 25 Securitrons MKV. 5 Spy-Eye Bots Squads
>>>>> Infrastructure: Ruined buildings. Digital Radio Tower.
>>>>> Power: Big Alien Battery
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Animals:

!NEW!
--TRONA---
++Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 25 Securitrons MKV 5 Spy-Eye Bots Squads
>>>>> Infrastructure: Ruined buildings. Digital Radio Tower. Highway to BigMT
>>>>> Power: Big Alien Battery
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Animals:

---NEWBERRY SPRINGS---
++BigMT Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 25 Securitrons MK5 5 Spy-Eye Bots Squads
>>>>> Infrastructure: Houses. Lake. Hemp Farm (Small). Banana Yucata (Medium) Spice Farm (tiny). Water Pump to BigMT. Electrical Wires to BigMT
>>>>> Power: Borrowed from BIgMT.
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. *Nat100* Robot Defenses.
>>>>>Animals:
>>>>>Other: Omni-Agronator!

---THE TWIN MINES (West+South)---
>>>>>Military: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Railroads. Open Pit Quarry.
>>>>>Defenses: Mountain
>>>>>Animals:
>>>>>Other:

You have new forms of entertainment to add to Alexa, the low level AI governing most peoples TV convenience thingamij. You can add them straight up, or you may try to censor them.

James Bond AI reports no bugs or taps in your armored limosine after a thorough scan.

2 new vehicles added. Tony Gam built the RV with scavenged parts, so thankfully your metal has not depleted. it should be noted that your size and population have made such small constructions not so resource intensive as it would have been when it was just the 7 of you.

---THE CRATER---
>>>>>Morale: Above Average (Stable)
Permanent:
Patriotism (Below Average- Phoenix Commonwealth)
!NEW!
Military Pride (Below Moderate)
>>>>>Current Pop:
31 Human
20 Infants
1 Ghoul
>>>>>Garrison:
5 Devils Brigade - Power Armor
20 Couriers Companions - Arcade, Doc Delilah, Cass, Raul, Veronica, ED-E, Rusty, Wendy Gilbert, Hazel, Desmond Harper, Vanessa, Joana, AXE MAN, Milton+Hans, Sonia, Riddick, Dean Domino, Couripor, Mary-Jo Casey, Cain
+1 Super Heavy Omni-Constructor
+10 MKV Hazard-Salvager Securitron
+10 Sentry Shield-Juggernaut Minigunners
+33 Securitrons MKV
+60 Small Flyer Repairbots
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
+50 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>>Prisoner: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Higgs Village Warehouse [6 Intact Homes w/{Toilets, Air Condition}, Indoor living area. Raul’s Shack. Follower Hospital. 5 Box Cars. Latrines. Plumbing Water. Heated Water. Indoor Ventilation.) The DOME. The SINK (BigMT Command Center. The THINK TANK). The FORBIDDEN ZONE. . Boom Town Shooting Course Lobotomite Pleasure House (Primitive). Constrution Site (Small). Y-0 Research Center. Scrap Performance Stage. X-2 Transmitter Array. Hemp Farm.
Chinese War Factory
Chemical Mill (Small)
Concrete Military HQ/Barracks + Intelligence Center - James Bond. General Kreger.
Magneto Hydraulics Plant Robotics Facility
Cass' Multipurpose Ethanol/Alcohol Distillery (Tiny)
X-12 Biological Research Plant (Small)
Automated Hexcrete Plant (Small)
Securitron Deconstructino Plant / General Robotics Research Facility (Small)
X-13 Research Factility / Medical VR University (Small)
X-2 Antennae Transmitter Array - Mr. New Vegas. Ms. New Washington
Doppler Radar
Large Scale Replicator
AUTOMATED ROBOT FACTORY
>>>>>Defenses: Radar Fence/Mountain Range. Laser Turrets (Few)
Watch Towers. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Riddick’s Charge Co. Dodger. 1 Giant Crane (Ruined) 1 Alien Scoutship (INTACT). 1 Long Travel RV. 1 bulletproof limosine.
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (HUGE). BigMT Underground Reactors
>>>>>>Other
+The THINK TANK
+Dr. MOBIUS
+Unity
+Julia Farkas
+Arcade Ganon
+Jacob Miles
+Tony Gam
+Janith Kindergarten
+20 Researchers (Followers of the Apocalypse)
+14 Hubologists
+10 Experienced Combat Medics/Researchers [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans} {Augmented!}
+45 Assorted Research Robots (normal)
+55 Captured Female Lobotomites
+67 Captured Male Lobotomites.
+20 Construction Bots
+10 VR Life Support Pods (debrained Version)

>---NEW WASHINGTON---
>>>>>>Morale: Average
>Permanent: Patriotism (Below Average- Phoenix Commonwealth)
>>>>>>Armaments: Average
>>>>>>Current Pop:
>203 Human
>35 Infants
>+40 Super Mutants/Nightkin

>>>>>>Garrison:
>1 Couriers Companions – Doc Mitchel
>+10 Mr. Orderly Robots
>+2 Experienced Higher Officers (Urban Veteran) [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Experienced Veterans} {Augmented!}
40 Child Soldiers “Freeside Rats” (Various)
+20 Super Mutants
+20 NightKin
+156 Securitrons MKV Hazard Bot
+(Plentiful) Spy-Eye Bots

Squads:
>General Infantry Squad: (6 Regular Infantry, 1 Experienced Soldier "NCO", 1 Trained Regular Officer)
>Traits:[OW American Infantry Armor] (Weapons:Plasma/Laser) {Experienced Veteran Leaders}{Veteran Infantry} {Augmented!}
8 Squads [8/8]

>Garrison Infantry Squad: (Assorted infantry)
>Traits:[OW American Infantry Armor] (Weapons:Plasma/Laser){Veteran} {Augmented!}
2 Squads [8/8] [7/7]

>1 Command Platoon:
>Traits:[OW American Infantry Armor] (Weapons:Plasma/Laser) {Experienced Veteran Leaders}{Veteran Infantry} {Augmented!} **Command Unit**
+1 TACT bot {Combat Veteran}
+2 Experienced Higher Officers (Urban Veteran)
+8 Experienced Regular Infantry
+5 Mr. Orderly Robots
+Doc Doc Orderly MD PHD DDS

>>>>>Prisoner: None
1 Presidental Manor
100 Hexcrete Hex Houses (Indoor plumbing/Shower, electricity)
Asphault Roads. Sewer System. Night Lamps.
Desert Landscaping
Spring Well. Clean Water Tank (Intact)
Banana Yucca Farm (Large)
Cotton Farm (Medium)
Concrete School House (Tiny)
Glass Mill (Small)
Public Washing Machines.
Water Treatment/Fertilizer Plant
(Small) Bar + Cafeteria + Kitchen + Janith's Equipment
Solar Collector Tower Station (Small)
>>>>>Defenses: Disease Quarantine Measures (Primitive)
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird, 1 Fuel Economic Fuel Semi Truck, 7 Tracked Construction Vehicles (Mining Specialized) Jacob Mile's Mr. Fix-It Frame. 5 Chinese Supply Trucks
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (Adequate) {Shared from The Crater}. Electrical Poles. Solar Collector Tower Station (Small)

>>>>>>Other:
+Marcus
+Keene
+34 Herd Animals (Brahmin/Bighorn)
+9 Baby Brahmin
+30 Mr. Howdy's Farming Robots

>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 108

>>1734152

>>HERO
Salvage the Divide.

>>Research
Research replicator upgrade: non-metal replication.

>>CONSTRUCTION
Construct more construction robots.

>>MILITARY
Clear and salvage the Divide.

Passive robot construction: construction robots.

>>1734152
>>HERO
Take the four best of the Chinese stealth team + Dandan and neuter the NCR's counterattack against the Legion.

>>Research
Research replicator upgrade: non-fissile replication.

>>CONSTRUCTION
Construct more construction robots.

>>MILITARY
Clear and salvage the Divide.

Passive robot construction: construction robots.

>>1734159
This is what we agreed to last thread. Supporting

>>1734159
Supporting

>>1733853
Actually last you checked the Legion owned the Mojave Outpost. Have a big statue of Legate Lanius when you were there last.

>>1734170
But are the NCR still holding out on the other side of the pass?

>>1734173
Not as far as you know.

>>1734159
We might want to use a replicator and produce a bunch of C-4 and bleach like I outlined last thread. So we can mess with their shit more easily.

Also some bolt cutters / Saturnite knifes, lockpicks and some silenced weapons? General spy shit.

Rolled 40 (1d100)

>>1734152
backing this >>1734159

Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>1734181
Supporting, also how many troops will we send to the divide? So when the time comes OP knows what we want to do.

I know our TACT bot, 100 Securitrons MKV Hazard Bot, leaving 56 at homee as Garrison. And 5 HK bastion

>>1734176
QM make note of what anon said, as we need it to do our sneaky mission.

>>1734159
>>1734190
Roll me 2 more 1d100s!

>>1734159
>>MILITARY
>Clear and salvage the Divide.

How many forces do you wish to send?

>>1734197
Don't send the TACT bot, it's not a Hazard bot.

Rolled 42 (1d100)

>>1734199
TACT bot, 100 Securitrons MKV Hazard Bot, leaving 56 at homee as Garrison. And 5 HK bastion

>>1734201
TACT bot send to be send to make our bots better at combat.

>>1734197
>QM make note of what anon said
which was that?

Rolled 63 (1d100)

>>1734199

Rolled 34 (1d100)

>>1734199

>>1734205
>TACT bot send to be send to make our bots better at combat.
Doesn't matter, it's not equipped to survive the Divide.

>>1734206
We might want to use a replicator and produce a bunch of C-4 and bleach like I outlined last thread. So we can mess with their shit more easily.

Also some bolt cutters / Saturnite knifes, lockpicks and some silenced weapons? General spy shit.

>>1734208
Nice Roll

>>1734201
>>1734205
So long as they are within digital radio range, which they were even before we got the TACT, it can command them.

We can have it a little past the China Ranch outpost. Far enough that it won't be hit by the storms but close enough to command via the network.

>>1734212
Oh, sabotuer equipment? Ok. As a free action you'll have some on hand that you have collected over the years.

Unfortunately, some of the more adanced stuff like rebreathers for everyone and MK6 berserk infection takes a true research action.

>>1734190
>>1734205
>>1734208
Fairly average rolls all things considered (Average is 49, literally just below average). Bodes...not good but well enough.


>>1734223
Fair enough and good to know.

>>1734176
Then why are the legion not pushing through the pass. They could be heading down the long 15 straight into baker. We're hearing nothing?

>>1734215
Yes, I agree

>>1734223
Alright good enough.

>>1734225
It's best of three

>>1734226
I have traveled through real life I-15 through Baker, and it's just nothing but desert for over 100 miles.

>>1734226
They know how bad desert combat is.

>>1734232
Those are the best three rolls.

>>1734226
>Brain
"Logistical difference aside, perhaps they are focusing on the NCR as their primary threat."

>>1734239
Yes

Hoboy 2 battle quests in a single turn. 'ere we go

>>1734249
We getting ambitious

>>1734159
>Take the four best of the Chinese stealth team + Dandan and neuter the NCR's counterattack against the Legion.

[INT 10]

You highly doubt that even with 5 very proficient people you could stop a massive counter attack. You're not at the right place, have 0% battlefield information on either NCR or Legion positions.

Then there's the issue of transportation. Walking there will take time. Driving will be faster but may also be more visible. And the UFO will definitely be spotted if they have radar installed, and James Bond says they do at Ridgecrest. He can feel their pings.

This may be a scouting mission at best, but you don't know where anything is.

You consider possibly thinking this over a bit more.

Rolled 37 (1d100)

Also rolling for reasons

>>1734291
>What do?

I'll throw in some more options based on your input. Currently the Courier is thinking that if this were indeed a major counter attack spread out rather than narrowed in like at Hoover Dam, even his almighty power on foot won't help much.

He could try to find and kill a general, but he doesn't know where one is.

>>1734291
>>1734340
What if we replicated the bike we got from the MLA? One of them for each of our infiltrators? Would that be able to move fast enough and carry enough supplies? Would they be anywhere near stealthy enough?

At that point, we could instead send in the entire Chinese stealth team since there'd be no reason not to replicate one for all of them and that would certainly be enough to do some damage to their offensive's supply lines and such.

Plus the job ain't to stop the counterattack. Merely to slow or minimise it's effect if we can.


Also OP I have to question the Scoutship being detectable by radar. Seeing as the Aliens were using them for covert work on the earth and shit. Kidnapping people and such. Not to mention that their mother-ship is fundamentally the same craft and if it was detectable by radar then they'd spot it from it's effect on radio telescopes when viewing that region of space.

>>1734340
Where is what we could do. Since it's a major counterattack, New Vegas which is under Legion control, will have ton of army movement, to the location of the counter attack.

I said to know where the counterattack is happening we need to see where all the supplies are going. Supplies that are being carried on NCR trains, and traintracks.

>>1734362
>I said to know where the counterattack is happening we need to see where all the supplies are going. Supplies that are being carried on NCR trains, and traintracks.
If only you had that information.

So you would like to take a gamble and track one of the NCR or Legion's supply lines?

>>1734361
>What if we replicated the bike we got from the MLA? One of them for each of our infiltrators? Would that be able to move fast enough and carry enough supplies?
Sure. Actually your limosine may be fast enough. However niether of them are exactly stealthed and could be spotted from the air or a distance.

If the alien vessel has a cloaking field, you haven't figured out how to activate it. Presuming it does.

It stands to reason that perhaps they felt that their technology was so superior as to not bother with a cloakig field.

>>1734371
Too much risk we choose wrong. We need to get the spy drones up before trying any of this. We know the most likely destination, north of us, but we don't know where anything is being held

>>1734362
Well we know the location of a massive artillery position (which is something I'd like to sabotage if we can get to it) and we can assume their range isn't greater than most conventional artillery.

So seeing as that was within sight of the capital and they were talking about pushing back the front-line which was within 50 miles of the capital. We have a rough region in which it could've been happening.


If we are smart, we can use maps (even pre-war ones work here, we just need mountains, rivers and all that) and shit we have to work out where the lines of probable attack and advancement for both sides would be and thus where the counter attack will be headed.

>>1734291
>>1734391
I told you guys.

>>1734400
And I told you getting those drones up wouldn't help us since they'd take too long to be ready.


Not to mention even if you did get them in the air, which I doubt we could have in time, they'd still be unable to pass into NCR airspace without causing a political nightmare.

>>1734389
Since the Legion is 50 miles away from the capital, it would be reason enough that the staging point would be the capital they would be sending troops and vehicles through it, To get the legion either to the East or North of the Capital. Most likely the East of it.

I said we need to send some men to the south of us, to see if the NCR are pushing the Legion, Southern California into Arizona. Just to make sure we're not being faked out. As the main push will be near the capital.

>>1734371
Teleport to the NV area, talk to the Legionaries who are off duty and shit along with their merchants. See if we can't find out where the front-line is from them. Failing that, follow one of their supply lines from a few miles up.

>>1734430
That could work, what do you think of my plan?

>>1734394
An artillery position within sight of the capital seems like its a defensive installation. It won't be helping 50 miles away.

>>1734394
>>1734433
Yeah, it's worth checking out, as we saw from the capital that artillery being fired. And they don't just put artillery just for show. So we need to check it out, and see where they are launching the shells at.

If you want to visit the NCR's artillery positions, say so and how you plan to get there.

>>1734433
>Teleport to the NV area, talk to the Legionaries who are off duty and shit along with their merchants. See if we can't find out where the front-line is from them. Failing that, follow one of their supply lines from a few miles up.

This seems like the plan that will take the least amount of time, so I'll support it. Just get to know where everything is happening. And tele back with the reports

>>1734451
Teleport to NV area

>>1734438
The speech given by their president implied it was being fired on the Legion positions which seemingly it was at the end of his speech.

>>1734442
Yeah. We can steal some maps of the front-lines, blow some shell dumps and all that good stuff.

>>1734460
I think teleportation to the NV area like you said would work out the best, as it really save us lots of time. Time we don't need to waste going to and from places.

>>1734451
>Teleport to the NV area, talk to the Legionaries who are off duty and shit along with their merchants. See if we can't find out where the front-line is from them.
This plan

>>1734451
Well. The motorbikes probably. Just stop a half a mile out or something and continue on foot.

>>1734474
>>1734457
2 for this

>>1734492
I suggested it and I'm for it.

Teleport to NV. Writing

Also since OP was seemingly uncertain on what we settled on in regards to farms, I presume we are going with the underground ones?

>>1734561
Thats my vote

>>1734561
yes

>>1734561
Yes.

>>1734562
>>1734572
>>1734573
Well not only was it settled quickly, it was unanimous!

>>1734561
That was the vote. Yes

Also another thing we need to get round to researching the weapons we theorised from the LAER weapons research.

I think the enhanced plasma (generates closer to target, still has a, smaller than LAER, Tesla effect) idea was the best for improving our general forces and that we might want to research the plasma "flamethrower" after that for close range bots.


Anyone got an opinion on that front? Anything else they want to raise?

>>1734583
Speaking of underground stuff let's build some digger bots next turn.

>>1734148
QM, could we add all of the things we bought from the NCR to the replicator's databanks as a free action?

Also, I support censoring the strongest bits of NCR possible propoganda in their entertainment works before disseminating them amongst our populace.

>>1734603
We'll see what we need. Personally I think we will be focusing on construction robots for a little while longer and getting the train working.

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You use your new alien teleporter pad to go to New Vegas.

Stepping out on the other side, followed by Dandan and some of your other Chinese agents.

You return once again to the Mojave. It has been some time. You look out into the distance.

The land is quite green now. The Legion's irrigation aqueducts have made grass and farms stretch across the Mojave.

New Vegas can hardly be recognized anymore. The Lucky38, the Casino buildings, overshadowed by Caesars great Colloseum.

As you overlook the Mojave, you see shapes moving in the distance. You recognize it as an army. A massive number of people pour in from the horizon to the east, walking into New Vegas.

You are always somewhat awestruk, and jealous, at the amount of people these other empires command. You hear war drums trumpets and whip cracks in the distance as this river of bodies marches forward, likely massing in New Vegas.

>What do

>>1734607
Agreed. Limited censorship and at least having some text or something popup stating if it's a falsification, exaggeration, etc for the rest of it.

Anything too obvious should be purged outright.

>>1734607
I'll handle this after calculating the battle posts

>>1734619
Oh good. The Legion is fine. This is terrifying but the Legion is fine.


Well, while we are here we could grab a few uniforms / clothes for the Chinese with us and purchase some more slaves to bring back. That way we can grow our population by...at least two dozen or so people. Seems worth it.

Might also consider seeing the Colosseum and doing some fights.

>>1734619
>You use your new alien teleporter pad to go to New Vegas.
Wait what? How?

>>1734638
Mate don't question the convenient shit. Chances are there is a very good explication for all this.


...I mean I have none but still.

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>>1734638
Some threads ago you guys reverse engineered Alien based teleporter pads

>>1734638
You have one currently installed in the old Enclave Bunker.

>>1734648
Yea but how did we get a teleporter pad to new vegas?
>>1734654
Oh, that's convenient.

>>1734660
What did I just say about questioning the convenient shit, don't do it.


I'd guess we used our Scoutship or that we carried the pieces on us through the transportalponder and assembled it there. Now stop asking questions when details work against us.

>>1734635
Supporting, we'll look like just some slavers, wanting more slave for our farm. Or other thing
>>1734619

>>1734648
That's awesome! Can we build more?

If so, we should build a ton of these! One hidden in Utah, under New Reno and near the Midwest BoS.

>>1734691
Agreed but there might be a max range.


However we can certainly see about getting one in Utah and anywhere else we expand.

>>1734635
Do this

>>1734691
It costs a lot of power to run these. You are currently working off of the Enclave Bunkers mini-reactor thing to make this work.

>>1734635
Writing

Do you want to bring Dandan or leave them in the Bunker?

>>1734706
I say bring them, so they can buy slaves as well. We should have enough legion clothes for them right?

>>1734706
Well the Legion has Chinese-ethnic citizens I would assume and I don't remember you mentioning anything about women being unable to purchase slaves...so...yes?

>>1734714
Isn't Dandan the only female in the Chinese sneak team? The rest males.

>>1734706
Yes

>>1734714
>Well the Legion has Chinese-ethnic citizens
I think your thinking about the Khans, but in Fallout their are asians ethnic people that still live on. So it don't be that weird

>>1734720
True but a Legion citizen can only purchase two slaves unless they hold notable rank or status.

So every person we bring is another two slaves essentially.


I mean, you might be able to convince some Legion people to "purchase" two slaves with your money and only keep one, giving the other to you, but that'd be risky.

>>1734714
>Well the Legion has Chinese-ethnic citizens I would assume

[Int 10]

You doubt that. The only main Chinese settlements you can think of are the Shi and your own.

>>1734736
I am aware from playing the games and all that but couldn't remember if I ever actually saw a Legion character of Asian ethnicity.

Still it'll work out.

>>1734701
Would a large alien power cell be able to run it?

>>1734737
Well we give enough money for the males of our team to buy two slaves. No convincing Legion people since it can backfire.

>>1734745
I think it don't be that weird. We could say they were part of a vault of only Asians if they ask. But as long as we have the money, we're be fine

>>1734742
Use INT again.

Given the rarity of Chinese citizens and language in the US, won't the Legion just think that they are tribals from an unknown area?

>>1734751
Yes. However you may also need an on hand fissile battery to keep it charged

>>1734759
Tribals wearing stealth armor?

Or even Tribals wearing stolen wastelander outfits?

>>1734742
Ah! But we know from the Pre-war world that there were Chinese held in Big Mt for testing who were P.O.W's and we can state with good certainty that they'd have had more than just the small number held in that camp (based off the number of beds, no more than a two-three dozen).

So logic implies that there would have been other, larger, camps elsewhere in the United states. Not to mention the existing population of "Chinese" by appearance people who lived in the US pre-war.


Anyhow, if anyone asks they are from the far western holdings of the Legion or something.


>>1734754
Agreed but they'd probably hate Vault dwellers for relying on technology and shit.

>>1734769
Well I did specify getting them some (Legion) clothes (>>1734635) and thus I'd suspect they'd be able to at least not stand out in a crowd too much.

Don't forget to vote on what you want to do.

>>1734708
>>1734714
>>1734723
3 for Yes

anyone going to oppose? If not writing

>>1734612
Construction bots and digger bots can be one and the same, provided we intend on primarily underground expansion and want to develop a unit that's fairly specific to that circumstance.

>>1734769
>>1734782
QM can someone just go back, and get some legion clothes. From BigMT?

>>1734770
>>1734759
How do you guys feel about putting some people to live in the Evclave bunker? Right now it's hidden with no people living in it. It was a water supply (small) by enough to let 6 people live. And it allow us to know what's happening with the Legion while our people are safe behind the hidden bunker.

>>1734782
OP just making sure you understand, I want to get them into Legion clothes, THEN go buy slaves.

>>1734786
I'd have little problem with that. Especially since I kinda want to use it to infiltrate the various vaults in the region and repair / restore them under ourselves. Either by stealth or by digging to them using a teleported mining robot.

That way, we can make use of them for their advanced technology and all that good shit. Plus it means we can rise from the earth with our robotic armies in the region when we roll on through.

>>1734803
We get tunneler bots and just task them to dig a web of tunnels under new vegas? Leave them to do their thing for a year and see what's donw?

>>1734810
Essentially. Seeing as each Vault has a geothermal generator and / or a nuclear power-plant we could make use of. It'd give us a pretty good base once repaired in the region for our various ideas. Especially once we start getting replicator industry online.


Then we install a network of trains and when we attack, we can send entire armies through the tunnels at high speeds to hit their rear lines.

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You find some appropriate local legion civilian clothes and dress yourselves and your own agents and head for New Vegas.

It isn't long before you encounter a Legion patrol. You are decidedly wearing a mask.

>Legion
"Halt!

Who are you, what is your business in the Legion. You dress like plebians, but it is obvious from your weaponry and bearing you are no mere plebs."

>>1734786
I like the idea!

Placing a spec ops team here to do Intel gathering would be a great idea. They could even use our wealth to cultivate local assets.

>>1734847
"We are Couriers, bearing things of importance to those who sent them and to those who shall receive them."


Remember, Ceaser ordered that no Courier ever be attacked, as many of his own spies were disguised as such. It also helps discount our appearance / behaviour.

>>1734867
Supporting

>>1734867
Actually scratch that, I think I can do better.

>>1734875
Fuck it, if that doesn't work then I don't think anything would've.


Go ahead OP.

>>1734867
Why not, supporting

>>1734867
go for it. It works

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>>1734867
[Speech 100]

>Legion
"Very well. Be on your business then, and do not attempt anything suspicious."

Seems like, at least, you have an alibi that works.

Just as long as you're the one talking.

---

You arrive on New Vegas, at what once upon a time was called Freeside and the Strip. Almost all of it has been changed. The rubble of freeside and the conrete wall replaced by stone, and concrete. Order where once was chaos, and great buildings and temples reach for the sky. Only the Casino's remain, now repurposed themselves.

The great marketplace is packed. But not with travelers, but tribals. Tribals who are being armed with armor and weapons, and a great military mobilization appears to be taking place. You are once again, tiny dots in an ocean of people.

>What do

>>1734900
Buy the max amount of slaves we can and see if we can hear where the people are going to.>>1734900

>>1734916
Supporting this.

Rolled 59 (1d100)

>>1734900
Split up and gather information. This is the Chinese Stealth Squad's best, they should be adept at getting in places and listening in on important conversations.

Designate somewhere to meet back up at when it's midnight. Should be easier to sneak out of places at night, and also hear more interesting things.

>>1734900
Buy the maximum number of slaves we can, any sorts of maps of Legion lands and any livestock or plants (preferably seeds) we haven't seen before.

>>1734916
Lets wait to buy slaves. Right now, they would just be dead weight if we have to go somewhere we're not supposed to be.

Rolled 11 (1d100)

>>1734916
>>1734939
Supporting

>>1734941
True but I see nothing we want to infiltrate.

>>1734937
They don't speak English for the most part.

>>1734966
FFS, why haven't we taught them the language of the land? They've got VR and surely that's a simple sim to write.

>>1734916
>>1734933
>>1734939
>>1734944
Anyway, four votes for buying slaves with two wanting to pick up some maps and such too.

Let's get the slaves at least.

Rolled 23, 3, 48, 62, 71 = 207 (5d100)

>>1734937
Rolling for reasons

>>1734974
The massive differences between Chinese and English I'd assume.

However I do agree, we should certainly make all of our citizens and the Chinese literate and able to speak English and Mandarin. That'll ease our people's relations and aid in fusing our two people into one.

>>1734979
Shit, fuck, okay, good.


We might need to do some fighting shortly...

>>1734985
>>1734988
Maybe the rolls was for the Legion?

No matter, due to our mission to stop/slow down the NCR. Maybe Ceaser would hear us out?

>>1734997
If he won't we can always promise to cure his cancer or something. Or we give our Transportalponder to our wife and try and fight our way out or something with the rest of the Chinese stealth team.

>>1734979
>Wartime preparations/Strategy
Well. There are a lot of weapons everywhere. Your Chinese say there's all sorts, both melee and ranged weapons. They spotted some RPG's.

They are trying to dole them out to as many tribals as possible.

This information isn't exactly helpful because they aren't so very attuned to the Legion a you are, so any quirks in quality, quantity or type escape them.

>Important People's Status
No idea where Caesar is. Or Legate Lanius. Or Vulpes. Or anyone really. Sheeit you're wondering where the slave master is or Lucy of the Thorn

>New Vegas' Inner Workings
New Vegas civilian life appears to have shut down. It seems the entire city has turned into a mass armament and barracks center. Much of the priestess duty has turned toward ritual pre-battle purification and blessings on the soldiers. It appears that the Legion is working on a major offensive of sorts, as formations of tribals enter the city and leave in columns heavily armed.

No more slaves are being sold.

>Steal Gathered Intelligence Analysis
Stealing snippets of conversation from officers, most of whom are lower, to find out what the Legion know about the NCR. You find out that the Legion is making a mass retaliatory movement of sorts. The where and the how isn't known, just that the order from up top is "get everyone armed and moving west NOW"

They don't seem to know much about the frontline either, only that they have been steadily marching toward the NCR capital and now all of a sudden the Legion has ordered lots of tribals and even plebians to be armed. Most of the officers here are set on training soldiers and getting them to the front, though they say "it feels like Caesar is moving the whole east westward. "

>MYSTERY
All tribals are being screened by a select group of Priestesses. You can't prove it, but you think they have "the sight" or the "the vision" or whatever you call it. Curious.

They seem to be looking for something among the tribals. Whether it is a bad trait they are screening for, or a good trait they are searching for, is unknown.

---

It is midnight. The endless armament and stream of soldiers continues as they are sent northwest.

>What do

Rolled 86 (1d100)

>>1735059
Rolling for reasons

>>1735059
Welp, no slaves no reasons to stay.

>>1735059
leave. Nothing to do here and they can probably handle themselves. Might even need to support the NCR.

>>1735059
>>1735075
>>1735072
Maybe we have the sight. Also if they are arming civilians and tribes people it means they are in need of help. Since they don't arm everyone unless it's Nazi Germany battle of Berlin.

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One of your chinese watchmen signals an alert. You look down and see a patrol of Legionaires wearing Dog hats being lead by what looks like a blind priestess fumbling about. But they seem very well armed and she almost looks like she knows where she's going.

Their patrol seems to be getting closer and closer bit by bit.

>>1735059
Pull out of the city. Don't break anything or steal anything. Just get back to the Bunker.


So it seems the Legion isn't much stronger than I suspected. That they can't resist should this counter-push actually go ahead at full speed or anywhere near full strength.

I see two solutions, either we supply the Legion with tonnes of RPG's and other such measures to counter the NCR armour and such or we have to weaken the NCR's push ourselves.

However we now know the location of the push more precisely and can almost certainly move covert assets into the region and damage the logistical and strategic backbone of the NCR.

>>1735088
Speak to the blind woman. Maybe she knows our future

>>1735088
Aw fuck we're spotted, get out of there, cover our tracks and make sure to lead them away from the bunker.

>>1735094
>>1735100
Supporting. We need to regroup and think of what to do next

>>1735088
Get all of our Chinese to begin pulling out of the city back to the Bunker. They shouldn't wait for us.


I am assuming the Transportalponder still works and that we have it on us? If so remain behind with that in hand (finger on the trigger) but down by our side and wait for them to either pass us by or for them to reach us. See what they do and if all else fails teleport out. If they walk on by, exit the city casually.

>>1735100
yup support leaving.

>>1735100
>>1735103
>>1735108
3 for this
>>1735107
1 for this

writing unless any changed votes

>>1735103
What to do next is fairly clear. Strengthen the enemies of the NCR, weaken the NCR's advance. Maintain the balance.

>>1735094
We actually still don't know where the frontline is, just that it's west.

>>1735110
seems more like we have to weaken the legion. They're messing with supernatural shit, and other shit we can't understand.

>>1735112
We know it is in a certain direction (and was within a certain distance) of the NCR capital and is in a certain direction of the Legion capital.


With these facts we should be able to create a area a few dozen miles across at most which we can search and perform actions within.

>>1735117
They are just doing normal Roman things. Being back the Blind woman that can fortell the future. While being high as the sky, and this sense could be VATS

>>1735117
So the Legion has supernatural shit and Hercules, while the NCR has superior tech.

>>1735117
No, we THINK they are. What we know is that they are terrified by the NCR's advance and are incredibly worried about it beating them / killing them.

You were the one earlier saying we needed more information and that we shouldn't act rashly. Now you are the one acting without considering the information we have and performing rash actions.


What we know is that they are scared the NCR is going to beat them and we know the NCR thought they'd beat them too.

Logically we must act on these two facts to conclude that we must intervene to the benefit of the Legion. To preserve the balance.

>>1735128
Actually i'm the anon who was saying that stuff.

>>1735134
Oh, my bad.


Point is we have more reason to believe that the NCR advancing without us interfering will do more damage to the balance of power than the Legion's shenanigans.

>>1735122
Legion is anti-tech, they wouldn't use VATS.

>>1735128
>but you think they have "the sight" or the "the vision" or whatever you call it.
the courier with 10 int has come to the conclusion they're likely psionic, not pretending.

>>1735143
I dunno man it looks like a pretty big battle is gonna happen, i don't know how we could stop the NCR counterattack without overtly attacking.

>>1735146
And that is lovely but my point is that the sight, assuming that they actually have it to any major degree, isn't a instant win button.


We have more reason to believe that the NCR's victory will happen without our interference than a Legion one and even if I am wrong I get the feeling that the NCR is going to recover more easily since they aren't throwing their entire capital's population into the effort.

>>1735153
We don't want to stop it. Just minimise it's effects. Prevent them running over the Legion for the most part.

As previously explained this would be accomplished by blowing ammo / fuel dumps, bridges / train tracks, radio masts, vehicle pools and artillery positions.

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>>1735100
You leave New Vegas concerned about being followed, and by doing your best to stay out of sight and not touch anything, you escape without being spotted.

The sun is rising now, and its a long walk to the Bunker again. Two days and two nights have passed since the Sentenniel.

>What do

>>1735158
It would be enough to even the playing field. If the legion knows where the NCR is going to attack, with what tactics, where they will deploy armour columns, where they would deploy infantry forces, or artillery emplacements..

The sight is a massive gift for the legion and with their numbers and training, would pose a threat to the NCR.

Actually here's an idea, if the Legion is leaving New Vegas we can begin teleporting some bots here to hold it.
>>1735173
>We don't want to stop it. Just minimise it's effects. Prevent them running over the Legion for the most part.
I know i know, i'm just tired and used the wrong word.
The point is i don't think using just one Chinese stealth team is gonna help minimise the counterattack in any significat way since this is looking like it's gonna be a major warfield.

>>1735176
It's lovely to say that but the thing is that the sight is cloudy / vague as shit according to every user we know of unless you are hopped up on insane amounts of drugs. Something the Legion wouldn't use.

And even assuming you were right, there's only so much knowledge can do for you when you are literally outnumbered, outgunned and out of time.


The Legion needs help, this much is clear.

>>1735176
This anon has a point, it's possible the Legion's priestess have predicted the NCR counterattack and foretold that the only way to stop it is to have the entire population fight in this specific battle.

>>1735188
Legion has the numbers advantage, and their equipment is of good quality.

>>1735193
NCR has tanks, Planes, artillery and morale on par with the Legion, and super soldiers. I give the winning edge to the NCR

>>1735183
That is a terrible idea but we can consider it.


Also our force can certainly do enough to minimise it's effects if we act quickly enough and catch up to the NCR's front-lines and eliminate some of their forces. Be it tanks, artilery, vertibirds or anything else.

We must head back to Big mt, mount up onto our MLA bikes and ride as fast as we can towards the NCR's capital and then towards the thunder of the artillery / where we saw their first barrage land / the mountain we saw light up with their guns.

Failing that we must get the MK 6 on a holotape and into New Reno's robots to draw NCR resources and forces away, lest they lose the city and the region.


>>1735193
We have no reason to believe they have the numbers advantage and their equipment might not be enough for this. I still say we must intervene immediately.

>>1735204
>Also our force can certainly do enough to minimise it's effects if we act quickly enough and catch up to the NCR's front-lines and eliminate some of their forces. Be it tanks, artilery, vertibirds or anything else.
Not in a battle of this size, there's probably gonna be hundreds of NCR tanks and other Vehicles and we'll have to blow them up with just one team.
i think there's a Game of Thrones joke that can be said here.

>>1735175
Find out where the NCR supplies route is, and blow up ammo / fuel dumps, bridges / train tracks, radio masts, vehicle pools and artillery positions.

>>1735199
The legion probably has the sight, and if they needed to get around the drug restriction probably use "ceremonial incense" or something. Wouldn't be the first oracle to do so.

They have good guns, probably some for every occasion, including missles, which may be capable of locking on.

If the NCR has just the edge, then there is nothing we need to do. We want them to barely win.

>>1735211
A team which i remind you, will have to stay covert, limiting how many vehicles they can take out.

>>1735216
I'm saying that the NCR has the edge that them will bulldoze the Legion, that why we need to slow the attack.

Legion has to get civilians and tribe people to fight for them, NCR has too much of a edge that they will win easy.

>>1735217
You are assuming that we are going to be blowing this shit up as we go. The C-4 in Fallout NV works with remote detonators and you can wire up as many blocks to the same one. This means we can turn entire motor pools into metal scraps in a few minutes of covert work and a trigger. Same goes for the rest of our targets.

>>1735221
They get tribals to fight for them as a matter of principle, and there is something to be said for numbers in missile barrages.

In a straight fight, yes, the NCR would win, but the Legion has sight for psychic intel. Played right, Legion can ambush every NCR convoy, or counter any NCR push.

>>1735230
>You are assuming that we are going to be blowing this shit up as we go. The C-4 in Fallout NV works with remote detonators and you can wire up as many blocks to the same one.
And how the fuck would the C-4 go unnoticed while NCR troops are using those vehicles to attack the Legion? They aren't in storage they are actively being used to attack the Legion.

brb don't forget to vote!

Also am I to presume you wish to spend the nuclear boon on the Fissile materials research?

>>1735246
Why are we attacking the vehicles actively in combat? We want to eliminate their logistical backbone by destroying railroads, trucks and fuel / ammo dumps.

Destroying vehicle pools is just a side goal in case we encounter them, not the primary method to weakening them.


Also it should be noted that the Vertibird is a vehicle with many maintenance spaces. All it would take is someone hooking the altimeter into an explosive with a fairly simple logic circuit (needs voltage > X) and they could make them explode when they go above a certain height.

>>1735246
>>1735244
>>1735230
Guys I think we should vote to OP post, so we can get things moving.

>>1735269
Yes

Go back to BigMT, and talk with the Brain, he will have answers to what we saw

>>1735269
>Also am I to presume you wish to spend the nuclear boon on the Fissile materials research?
What about the Non-metal materials upgrade? Does such an upgrade exist now?

>>1735281
It will be part of a general replicator research action. The results will speak for themselves.

>>1735272
>Why are we attacking the vehicles actively in combat? We want to eliminate their logistical backbone by destroying railroads, trucks and fuel / ammo dumps.
You were the one who said "Also our force can certainly do enough to minimise it's effects if we act quickly enough and catch up to the NCR's front-lines and eliminate some of their forces. Be it tanks, artilery, vertibirds or anything else" so i thought you meant destroying active combat vehicles.

>>1735272
Yeah, and who's going to go up to each vertibird and wire up the bomb? do we carry a bag or logic gates in our pocket?

Also, they're mobilizing, you don't think they have eyes on critical infrastructure at all times?

>>1735269
Yes

>>1735277
Agreed and I support your choice for an action.


We might want to consider that insane plan to teleport in our army and capture the Legion's lands while their army is distracted under the assumption the NCR are going to win. Assuming we can get actual proof the NCR is winning and will push them back that far.

>>1735277
Supporting.
>>1735286
Get that upgrade instead of the non-Fissile materials.

>>1735277
Ill support talking to the brain

>>1735294
Don't get that upgrade, get the one that allows us to use regular rocks instead of metal.

>>1735269
Could you detail what the different researches we can do are and how they'd effect the replicators?


>>1735291
>Yeah, and who's going to go up to each vertibird and wire up the bomb? do we carry a bag or logic gates in our pocket?
Mate it's not exactly a hard job, you just wire the logic gate into the existing circuit and every stealth team member could be educated to do that in a few minutes at most.

>Also, they're mobilising, you don't think they have eyes on critical infrastructure at all times?
Not really seeing as they are expending so much effort to maintain the rate of their advance. I'd suspect that the literally able to be invisible stealth team might be something that they'd miss.

Still I've provided alternative plans if these aren't to you liking that I can guarantee will be effective but no one agrees to using them.


Seriously, I've provided plenty of ideas but no one is willing to unleash an unshackled AI into New Reno, to head to the north and burn down the forests or even to strengthen the MLA or just to take the Courier on a road trip through the NCR blowing bridges, military bases and other shit to high heaven.

Forgive me for actually trying to provide solutions.

>>1735313
>>1735305
You'll both be satisfied by the research boon. The Brain has come up with a new theory that will expand the abilities of replication in general

>>1735322
Use the boon

>>1735313
Don't worry anon.

I'm sure when BigMT actually does decide to go to war you'll be in need of lots of ideas

>>1735313
I don't recall anyone who disagreed about burning down the forest. I sure didn't. It's just that doing that now wouldn't affect the outcome

>>1735192
Very possible.

I still think that we need more information.

We should head to an outlying Legion outpost closer to the front and interrogate an officer.

Or, head into the NCR.

>>1735322
Okay use the boon then, but I reserve the right to be extremely disappointed.

>>1735328
I didn't either, i just disagreed with the method to do so and proposed an alternative.

>>1735328
It would've limited the NCR's fuel supply forcing them to conserve what they have. Rather than expending it in a single offensive. It would also have left a large portion of the population unemployed and interrupted their electrical supply since they rely on it to some degree for that.

>>1735313
forgive me if im slow on the upkeep, still at work.

> head to the north and burn down the forests
Fuck yeah, lets do it.

>road trip through the NCR blowing bridges, military bases and other shit to high heaven.
Fuck yeah, lets do it.

>>1735322
Do it

>>1735343
I agree to both the actions expressed ie. Fuck yeah, lets do it

>>1735343
>>1735347
Well good then, we can start sabotaging the NCR's shit immediately since Riddick also knows how to fly the Scoutship and probably better than us, he can take care of the forests.

>>1735351
Well let's first get that non-metal materials upgrade first cause i have an idea.

>>1735351
We won't do anything of value fast enough though, and remember what QM said, they may be tracking the saucer on radar, and follow the line back to us.

>>1735355
Sounds interesting. I'm in.


We also need to get round to colonising Utah.

>>1735358
Riddick will be able to get us through that. He is not scared of heights. Radar can't reach more than 10 miles high I would think

>>1735360
Well guess what, with the replicator upgrade we can begin massive digging projects to reach places like Utah and NV, the projects will also as a consequence give us tons of material to use in replicators which give us more digging and military bots.

>>1735358
>We won't do anything of value fast enough though
You want immediate results? I've provided plans for that but again and say it with me now: no one, supports them.

>and remember what QM said, they may be tracking the saucer on radar, and follow the line back to us.
Then we tell Riddick to fly into space and back to Big mt before landing and that assumes they link a small radar blip to the massive fires.


>>1735362
He'd only need to go about 38 miles up to be safe from radar for the most part.

>>1735343
I don't support going on the road trip of destruction. Pretty soon after they would get wise to it and be on the look out. Only so many military bases and bridges one cand destroy before someone gets wise to what's happening.

Remember, the Shi have a master prediction computer, and the NCR has a ZAX. After the first 6 targets they could start pre-empting us. If stealth is broken, we will lose when the NCR attacks.

>>1735365
I guess you could say our civilization will reach... Critical mass

>>1735367
I want to do things with care, not go on a merry spree of destruction that won;t do anything.

>>1735365
I actually want to maintain a small presence in NV. A dozen spotters to observe for the NCR advancing into the region and if so they signal back to the bunker and someone rushes through and tells us.

Then we send our army through the teleporter as quickly and as many as possible before claim the region and deny them the city / resources of the region with the smuggest of faces. Then we start expanding out.


>>1735368
>>1735372
A merry spree of destruction accomplishes plenty I'll have you know. It destroys industries, ruins economies, wrecks regions and over all damages their NCR's dominion.

Also, they can predict where we strike next all they like, that just means we need to change up targets / move region or act more unpredictably.


Look if you want to slow down the NCR you either accept that the operations are small scale and risky or large scale, out of our control and risky.

>>1735389
You vastly overstate what we personally are capable off. There are only so many factories or bridges or military bases we can blow up before they start being prepared. That includes predicting what our next target is. They have the capability. The whole endeavor is far riskier than what we stand to gain.

>>1735389
Setting the woods on fire is one action, swift, and devestating.

The road trip of destruction is a series of smaller yet still very risky actions.

You can see how they are different.

I support decisiveness not whimsy in sabotaging our neighbouring military power.

>>1735406
>>1735418
Mate what we stand to gain is slowing down the NCR even if only by a day or a week over the course of a turn.


Personally if it was left to me, I'd do much more damaging things like spreading the MK 6 into every robot and robotics factory we could find but currently that isn't an option because no one is willing to support that or anything of the sort.

No weapons for the Legion nor the MLA, no drugs either, no improved infrastructure and nothing done to maintain that balance we all agreed needed to be maintained not that long ago.

>>1735440
>I'd do much more damaging things like spreading the MK 6 into every robot and robotics factory we could find but currently that isn't an option because no one is willing to support that or anything of the sort.

I'm for it and other anon as well. But we need to do a research action on it.

>>1735449
>I'm for it and other anon as well.
Are you talking about me? Cause i ain't up for the MK 6 plan.

>>1735449
I know you two are but others are against it for fear of causing something like the Faro plague which is unlikely in my opinion but honestly might benefit us.

>>1735440
Yes as you said so often, If things were up to you we'd be lord of ashes and plagues.

Destroying random infrastructure is a steadily increasing risk for little reward. We don't know where anything is, so we're going in blind. We also don't know security, though it's Zax controlled, or countermeasures. The NCR knows the Legion is capable of sabotaging their shit, do you really think they would make it easy for us? If we start making waves, we give the ZAX and Emperor more data points, to predict our next move or guess who we are. Both of those end badly.

The counter attack will meet forewarned legion troops. If it's a steam roll, it would be a legion steam roll. We don't need to interfere more than necessary.

You take the time to trek back to BigMT.

After keeping your boots in New Washington for so long, its good to be out in the open again. Though you are almost saddened by the lack of monsters and enemies to kill. This new Mojave is green, disciplined, and peaceful.

It takes several hours to return to the bunker, and file in to the crater.

You are greeted by your brain.

Back at the Forbidden Zone, away from the Think Tank who would be alert to any outside broadcast, you find your followers and the Brain tuning a large Television Monitor.

Apparently the NCR is sending some sort of really big broadcast. Word is quickly spreading, and Alexa is recieving many requests by your citizens to observe the broadcast.

>What do?

>>1735473
Check it out first.

>>1735473
watch first, but don't let the people see

>>1735473
Watch the begging moments of the broadcast ourselves so we can see what it is first, if we consider it safe we let the citizens watch it.

>>1735464
>Yes as you said so often, If things were up to you we'd be lord of ashes and plagues.
Well I'd certainly do more than sit in our little town scared shitless of the boot of the NCR or anyone else for that matter.

>Destroying random infrastructure is a steadily increasing risk for little reward. We don't know where anything is, so we're going in blind. We also don't know security, though it's Zax controlled, or countermeasures. The NCR knows the Legion is capable of sabotaging their shit, do you really think they would make it easy for us? If we start making waves, we give the ZAX and Emperor more data points, to predict our next move or guess who we are. Both of those end badly.
Fuck it I can't be bothered to argue this point. You can believe that within three factories or whatever they'll have our pattern down to pat, I can't give a shit.

>The counter attack will meet forewarned legion troops. If it's a steam roll, it would be a legion steam roll. We don't need to interfere more than necessary.
You ASSUME it will be a legion steamroll based off the assumption that the sight instantly makes their knowledge of the enemy a miraculously accurate thing beyond mortal comprehension which based off of the Forecaster and Mama Murphy, it sure is shit ain't gonna be.

And even if it was, I fail to see how perfect information can compensate for them being so massively fucking outclassed.

>>1735473
See what the broadcast is about first

>>1735454
The other anon, the one that not here right now.

I really want to move on to the replicator research, if it's what i think it is the NCR won't be a problem.

>>1735489
Murphy can tell you the deactivation code of a courier. A literal cadre of priests can likely pin point NCR movements.

And if you pull out the drugs argument, they could be using herbal narcotics

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>>1735505
>>1735486
>>1735485
>>1735479
This may very well be the first mass television radio broadcast in a long time.

It starts off as a still image of a Two Headed bear in front of a picturesque scene of california, the rays of the western sunset shining behind him like a halo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qvqIHVGoh4

Music is playing, a triumphant orchestral piece. It seems to be the opening to a national news broadcast.

>con't

>>1735520
And I said that even ignoring that, it doesn't compensate for the massive forces the NCR has gathered to destroy the Legion.

>>1735527
>Imb4 it starts good for the NCR but then goes wrong.

>>1735532
...As much as I want this to be their Klendathu, I get the feeling we wouldn't be so lucky.

>>1735535
We wouldn't be seeing what we saw in New vegas if things were going to go according to plan.

>>1735558
True but still. I get the feeling the Legion's going to be bled dry by this offensive.

>>1735558
From what I saw from New Vegas, it just means that the Legion is scarping the bottom of the barrel.

>>1735579
More likely they didn't expect the offensive and this is just them mobilising the manpower they have in the region to delay the push while they get actual reinforcements.

>>1735588
We'll see how this offensive goes. A offensive takes time, and only 2 days passed. So we have time to do shit to the supplies of the NCR

>>1735597
True. Especially since we are in agreement about burning down the northern forests.


Also we need to find the place the NCR is keeping the Tribal's they've yet to covert if any are left. We can arrange a breakout and get them into the MLA / Legion lands and then cherrypick the best for ourselves while letting the rest join them. It'd weaken the NCR without actually strengthening the other sides besides allowing them to sustain more losses and shit.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y09pD1r-Qs

"This is the CBC home service. Here is the news.

The military High Command reports a resounding success on the eastern front as part of the counter offensive. In what is known being called the "Centennial Miracle"

In a stunning display, a new tactic,"combined armaments" has been employed on the front-lines with results far exceeding any political or military expectations. The emphasis of speed and rapid advances is being dubbed by the High Command as a "lightning war"

Our courageous forces make astonishing gains as they continue to push the enemy back. Unconfirmed reports have rumored that one mechanized division moved at such apace that not only were the enemy caught off guard, but even High Command was unawares of its position. Military commanders have since dubbed it the 'Ghost Division'.

We can now show you live footage being provided by our corespondents on the frontlines."

>>1735691
So, eliminating their fuel source just became high priority. Followed by expansion. Forget military action, we must focus on actual industrial, agricultural and economic gains.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P_tjDZ_M78

"From Boomer City, men and women of the 1st artillery battalion continue to demolish enemy strong points and grouped positions with massive artillery fire. The High Command puts to use their newly unveiled Anchorage Guns, firing huge two ton shells up to 30 miles away.

From the Capital the sound of their guns can be heard roaring down the valley, as the enemy no doubt is receiving a first hand experience at them."

>>1735691
Shit, we got to cut off the supplies, and have guerrilla warfare form. To stop the NCR in their tracks.

Have our military and brains look at the footage to understand ways to stop the "lighting war".

>>1735718
We need to burn all the trees down.

>>1735750
We need to go to Boomer City soon.

>>1735750
Well lads we have our target. We know where it is and we can certainly damage it by detonating their shell storage. It might not stop their advance but it will cost them significant resources and certainly prevent problems in future and such.

We should release the footage to our people anyways.

It'll spread to them eventually. Just do a time delayed broadcast so it seems like they're getting it live anyways.

>>1735750
Do you folks think it might be possible to convince the Boomers to join us again?

>>1735758
Yeah, let's go for that. It's something decisive at least.

>>1735757
>ways to stop the "lighting war"
Hard to do. Might be possible if we provided military support to the Legion. Would suggest immediate deployment of our military forces to the NV area in a few hours assuming the NCR advance is not stalled to prevent them capturing the region.

>We need to burn all the trees down.
Agreed. Riddick can be left to do it in the background.

>We need to go to Boomer City soon.
Agreed. We can go alone or with the Stealth team covering our back but we go within the next twenty four hours.


>>1735780
Agreed.

>>1735758
Are we declaring war, or is this covert?

>>1735780
I am fine with this.

>>1735792
Might as well try covert. If we can avoid outright war then it'll make further operations far easier.

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"Men and women of the 1st Air Corps take to the skies to bring heavy greetings from NCR factories straight to Caesar. These same men and women once held out for months in the Mojave long after all other allied forces had fallen.

Just listen to the sound of those jet dive bombers."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZZ504TGDpE

>>1735798
God what I wouldn't give to have a few AA guns or our drones to be ready. We could show these NCR bastards a proper air force and blow the Boomers clean out the sky.

>>1735792
I'd recommend we avoid overt war as much as possible, i have a plan where we begin constructing a tunnel network covering our lands then send an Ultimatum to the NCR after 3-5 turns, "CRYPTO OR WAR, hand over the xeno know as crypto alongside our kidnapped Citizens and the tech you received from him or we shall declare war" When they refuce begin the sabotage operations that anon detailed while repelling any attacks through gorilla warfare.

>>1735814
Lmao you know I've only been calling him Crypto out of convenience, but you guys didn't actually ask for his name

>>1735829
Ehhh, just call him xeno then.

>>1735814
No, the NCR will just bomb our ass to hell. We need to do this as covert as possible.

>>1735814
No ultimatum.

After we secure the Divide, we need to dedicate our populace to total war.

Step 1 is cultural. We need our citizens to know what we're fighting for, as we will adopt a total war society.

The NCR is being controlled by the aliens we fought here at BigMT! It is up to us to defend humanity!

>>1735814
I was thinking we contact the enclave and brotherhood, get them on board with killing the xeno.

Then we send up spy sats to try and track him down, stage a surgical strike of all of our best, kill him, and get out before anyone knows what's happening. Or maybe have the enclave take the blame.

>>1735814
Mate 3-5 turns is far to little for us to be anywhere near ready for a proper fight. Given it more something like 10 and we could probably hold our lands and raid theirs. 20? Proper offensive actions become possible.


In the mean time we can use our hero actions and such to strengthen the Legion / MLA and weaken the NCR. Rather than performing the Sabotages at the outbreak of war, we do them now. It'll prevent problems.


Fact is that until we get the bomber drones redeveloped and all of the drone types / plus their carrier craft produced we lack any way of dealing with airborne shit. We also still need to create our artillery platforms and our anti-tank measures amongst other things.


I mean, we might be able to pull off a very short offensive in less than 10 turns if we rushed towards it but we'd run out of steam quickly through attrition and them refocusing on us.

>>1735845
>No, the NCR will just bomb our ass to hell.
Which the tunnels will protect our troops from.
>>1735850
I'd prefer if we did send the Ultimatum so our people know why we're fighting and just in case they do actually give in and to sow seeds of doubt in the NCR populace

>>1735851
The brothehood is so far East, and they have to go through the Legion to get to the NCR. Enclave would have too few numbers.

>>1735868
The NCR will bomb our cities, and our civilians. Destorying BigMT.

>>1735861
I agree we need to start the sabotages now. Before the War against the Legion is over. NOW is the time to start weakening them

We also have to make sure the NCR can't bomb us with arty or with planes.

>>1735868
We do have a shit tonne of infrastructure above ground, and it's not impossible for the NCR to develop their own tunnelers.
Open war is not an option.

We can let the NCR expand a good bit, wear themselves out, then cut them off from the rear, trapping their forces between the legion and then put the squeeze on their soldiers.

>>1735879
Midwest brotherhood, and the enclave might be small but getting them onboard is more resources we did not have before.

>>1735851
>I was thinking we contact the enclave and brotherhood, get them on board with killing the xeno.
We can do that too.
>>1735861
>Mate 3-5 turns is far to little for us to be anywhere near ready for a proper fight. Given it more something like 10 and we could probably hold our lands and raid theirs. 20? Proper offensive actions become possible.
Sorry I'm tired and hungry since i have to stay up for a blood exam. the 3-5 turns is my most optimistic expectation.
My plan is to use miner bots to dig a tunnel network which will give us materials to feed our replicators, the replicators then make more miner bots so we increase net material income, after like, 3 turns of this we switch to military projects.
>>1735879
>The NCR will bomb our cities, and our civilians. Destorying BigMT.
Well we can just get some AA guns to defend BigMT, which will be far easier than defending the entire desert from aircraft.

>>1735888
>According to a population census in 2241, the population at that time in the NCR was at 700,000 people.

They have lots of people they can use. The population would be over a million now, and we have a small force of 250 men. 400 if you add robots.

>>1735891
>Well we can just get some AA guns to defend BigMT, which will be far easier than defending the entire desert from aircraft.

AA guns don't work on Arty. So they will use arty to bomb BigMT

> and to sow seeds of doubt in the NCR populace
NCR people are Nazi level of brain washed.

>>1735868
The tunnels don't protect our city and such.

Honestly we are best off using our industry to strengthen the Legion / MLA and to expand into the Utah wilderness and deep underground.

I'd also like to request we debate creating a undersea colony near the volcanic vents of the ocean off the western coast. As a way of assaulting the NCR from somewhere they can't follow and because it is a region we can expand through without worry.

>>1735879
Agreed.

>>1735891
Fair enough. Honestly I'd argue we shouldn't be the one fighting for a long time but we should be prodiding weapons, parts and drugs to the MLA and similar shit to the Legion.

>>1735891
If they have enough planes they will still be able to get through. We're a long ways off from getting ready to take on the NCR.
That's why I want to take as few covert actions against them as possible.

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The rest of the broadcast is mostly a showcase of the ongoing offensive, without revealing much military sensitive information on location or position.

It ends with a promotional video asking for more volunteers for the NCR armed forces.

"We have the vehicles. We have the weapons.

We need soldiers!

YOU.

Join today!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqE306UqZrQ

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Gonna have to pass out for the night. Next battle post incoming.