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>From Last Thread
As the fires burn bright around the convoy and the enemy vehicles break off, some Supermutants and MLA fighters, either uninformed about the retreat or trying to retreat the wrong way still assault your convoy. And there are so many of them.

Without the support of their vehicles, and with your own vehicle support, the fighting is fierce but still in your favor. The Supermutants easily take low calibre rifles like the service rifle you are accustomed to seeing from the NCR Troopers in the Mojave. However you see now that the standard soldier is equipped with something much more potent. Their new standard rifle seems to be off all metal and hold very large magazines of .50 Calibre. The soldiers have special recoil reducers on their shoulders to help protect them and make the more accurate. These leave much bigger holes in Supermutants, and fired en masse are as devastating as machine gun fire.

Those soldiers who are equipped with lighter rounds have an entirely different weapon. A hybrid between an SMG and an open bolt LMG. Essentially a Belt-Fed Single man rifle, connected to large ammo packs. 1 man can suppress an area, and send streams of bullet fire on both human and mutant foe alike. put these in the hands of many soldiers, and that's a lot of bulllets.

Then there are the NCR's Stone Men with their really big shotguns. Pancor Jackhammers you believe they are called, and their barrels look like sawn off cannons. When they don't unleash a furious blast that can take a Supermutants arm off or turn a grown man into half a man at close range, they spin their guns around and throw them like big wieldy clubs. They aren't made of stone as the name implies, but they have huge weight and muscle mass on their stocky bodies, and three of them together are enough to overpower even a Supermutant in hand to hand combat. Which they do, acting like melee defenders and meatshields for the NCR with the heavy body armor they wear.

Last but not least are the NCR's stormtroopers. The Rangers were always the NCR elites, but these guys come close. Their weapons and training are superior, often energy weapons or very powerful arms and they all show excellent proficiency at it. Coupled with this an unwavering courage and proficiency in melee combat, making up for their smaller stature with teamwork to bayonet mutants in groups. They fight harder and as tenacious as any of them and seem to care little for their own lives.

>>1662402

Goddamn MLA and NCR

>>1662402
My body is ready

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>>1662402
Added to this some of the NCR Stormtroopers and Officers wear high tech armor, much more superior than what you see on even some Rangers.

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In comparison to this are your own soldiers. Not as tall or strong as the Stone Men. Not as numerous as the normal humans. Possibly not as fanatical or experienced as the Stormtroopers. But they have other advantages.

They are much more well rounded and in most cases superior to the average humans. Stronger, faster, quicker, sharper. They fire faster and hit more of what they're aiming at, and that your forces are 100% equipped with nothing but plasma and lasers over conventional bullets is a great touch.

The subdermal armor plates help protect against shrapnel. This is good because they're really wearing some basic old world American Army uniforms. They weren't bad, cotton and nylon over some basic body armor and in many regards are much better than the Brahmin leather uniforms of the Mojave NCR troops. But you're seeing some of the NCR troopers wearing some similar body protection too.

In addition your forces have exceptional wounnd healing capabilities. Some of both your and NCR doctors who were previously brahmin veterenarians say "it's like they have the hearts of Brahmin and blood made of stimpaks." Most interesting is the Y-7 implant which seems to, in one doctors opinion "literally mean they can eat to heal faster." which many of them do, downing their rations as the implant speeds up their metabolism to help them heal light injuries workng with their monocyte breeders.

Still, just as yourself, they are not gods. And they definitely aren't supermutants either, and bullets and plasma fire still kills a few. But both you, the NCR, and definitively the MLA can respect they pack of a hell of a punch.

>>1662431
REALLY GOTTA FIX THAT ARMOR ISSUE.

>>1662431
We need better armour. We're sending out naked spartans and that is not okay.

>>1662435
>>1662437

Well there is one kind of beetle that exists that I think we could base armor off of. Forget the name of them, but the fuckers can withstand getting run over like nothing really happened

>>1662444
It's less ability to make superior armour, and more never put the time to develop it. I imagine saturnite or alien metal could do nicely.

>>1662435
>>1662437
Do we? Our humans are behind a wall of securitrons, Ultimately don't we want to eliminate humans from our army anyways? Why spend actions and resources on them when we could just build more bots, if we really want humans involved in combat we could make r/c securitrons that our heros could control without outing them at risk... that said it would be nice to have right now but I don't see it being a worth while investment long run

>>1662460
Humans were never to be eliminated from the army. They weren't meant to be our primary fighting force however since we had robots.

>>1662460
We don't want to make the robots too smart, so its good to have humans around to help deal with some of the minutia. And public relations/ negotiations go better between flesh and blood individuals.

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But most of all, you yourself are respecting the power of machines. Not just from yourself, but from the NCR too. For all the soldiers, the strong men, the fierce fighters, and your bionic troops. . .the vehicles seem to overshadow so much of it.

One vehicle in particular that impresses you are some of the NCR's tank designs. Seen here is one. It's main canon will rip right through several mutants at a time or a well aimed shot blows up a single boat and then some. Added to it multiple Heavy Machine Gun's both on top and from within the vehicle and just one of these can cow-tow even armed supermutants. The only response to them are Rocket Launchers, big ones, which are unyieldy and inaccurate particularly when one is being shot at.

And most especially, of all things, air power. Air power decided the last fight. Air power decided this fight too. So much can be said about the devastation a handful of planes can wrought that would put even you to shame.

This expedition cost lives, but is providing valuable information for yourself.

>>1662459

Yeah true, but it's these beetles that are tough fuckers. I remember what they're called, while they can survive getting stepped on, and the only way you can get a pin through the bastards is by using power tools.

Ironclad beetles, they've got tougher cousins called diabolical ironlad beetles

>>1662478
Well if we ever go down to mexico, I imagine we could find some bigger varieties. Like dog big. And bullet proof. Ironclad Radroaches.

I suggest that we start making designs for some cheap light/medium tanks, I say that we base it off the sherman or something. Also heres a lil price guide on what it took to build these things, http://knowledgeglue.com/cost-ww2-vehicles/

NCR Casualties
34 men killed.
12 men wounded and disabled
47 men wounded but put back into fighting strength by your doctors
no vehicle casualties

PCA (Your) Casualties
11 Men, wounded, but put pack into fighting strength by your doctors
2 men KIA
no robotic casualties

MLA Casualties
"High". Multiple vehicles and supermutants.

---

!ALERT!
The Supplies have reached the city! Your plan was a success, and the NCR's primary objective has been completed.

>NCR Lieutenant
"Good job men. We did well.

We've fullfilled our mission. The President has sent us his personal thanks, and so has the Flooded City. But now we are called upon to serve above and beyond the duty which we have performed. We are to enter the city and escort some civilians out of it back to safe territory.

Are you ready?"

>NCR soldiers
"YES SIR!"

>NCR Lieutenant
"Hail California!"

>NCR soldiers
"HAIL CALIFORNIA!"

---

NEWS
Riddick has captured an enemy captain alive!

There are also several other human raider captives, and one super-mutant as well.

The NCR intends to interrogate them separately.You could request to interrogate them yourselves as well if you wish.

>>1662474
Eh, I think we can counter both the tanks and planes given time to design shit.


I think if we mount a large disintegration beam onto something like the artillery bot, we could probably destroy the tank and anything else we aim it at.

And we've discussed enough anti air shit that we can leave that for later.

>>1662510
Request to interrogate them.

>>1662481

Speaking of Mexico, there's always Gilla Geckos there and giant rattlesnakes.

>>1662505

We could use the Abrahams too

>>1662516

Supporting

>>1662517
The abrahams take about 20 gallons of gas just to start up, Also we should try to make/buy/scavenge some m113's to transport our troops in

>>1662510
request interogation. Riddick is good at these. Even when he's the prisoner.

>>1662517
You probably mean Abrams.

>>1662511
We would still need some form of armour platform, even if its a robot controlled tank, or heavy walker, same with planes. Air Supremecy wins wars.

>>1662516
Supporting

>>1662510
Request interrogation. Ask about our MIA
Riddick can help in this.

I don't be surprised if they took our captives to be brainwashed, or put into a FEV tube to turn into a super Mutant for the MLA

>>1662521
I'd point out that since our Securitrons are so armoured, they would probably work as very light armour.

Plus the artillery bot / TACT bot are twice as tall and in general much larger. So they'll be armoured enough for the most part. Given time we can produce even heavier things but for now they'll suffice.


As to the plane front, I agree. If we produce an inertia engine fighter-bot it could out manoeuvre any enemies and act as CAS since they can float in mid air too.

>>1662521

Yeah I know, autocorrected on me

>We would still need some form of armour platform, even if its a robot controlled tank, or heavy walker, same with planes. Air Supremecy wins wars.

True, when we begin mass-producing saucers I say we've got that covered. It will bring a tear to my eye when we start firing down death beams on our enemies.

East coast Brotherhood thinking they're superior because of the Prydwn. I'm happy to prove them wrong

>>1662534
>>1662531
>>1662521
>>1662517
Some things that the NCR learned about us in us helping them so far.

1. Our doctors are great, we'll patching up people left and right.
2. We have good officers, the way we came up with plans, the NCR didn't think about.
3. The soldiers we send are pretty good
4. We have good robots, and tech.
5. Riddick is badass, and the others are useful in a firefight

So the way I see it, the NCR will trust us more, and see how well we'll be as a ally to them, or at least see we can handle ourselves pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzWE2mhem0w

"HEAVE"

"HO!"

There's a crowd gathered to watch the strangest sight yet. Dozens of robots, supermutants and even human people pulling a train full of rocks past New Washington and into BigMT.

There's an almighty cheer that resounds throughout the crater as at long last the train reaches its destination, the Hexcrete Mill. This will provide a HUGE+ supply of Hexcrete that will last a long time!

Jacob Miles reports progress on the Locomotive repairs. But he exhausted all the metal we had on both new parts and the big alien energy cell for it and he needs more steel, plus another action to repair the Locomotive. From then on it will run on your power-grid via its big battery.

---

Janith Kindergarten has taken up residence near the Cafeteria. She demanded to meet the cook. Then she became head cook, and everyone agree's this was a great idea.

Like both Miles and Gam, she tries to regain a semblance of her life in the familiar, and does her best with what tools she has.

She does request however, that we spend some Fissile Material to provide several turns of Old World food packets (or buy them off the NCR) and some better kitchen equipment would be "very conductive to eating and living well."

---

>>>>>Food: Below Average (Slowly Rising) [CAP: Average]
Passive Booze Ration: Low (higher for soldiers)
>>>>>Water: Average (Stable) [CAP: Average]
>>>>>Medicine: Below Average (Stable)
!NEW!
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Metal (Exhausted) Fissile (Above Average)
Scrap Wood (tiny)
Special Electronics (---) Hygiene Supplies (Abundant) Booze (---) [Falling] Alien Tech Scraps (low) Hexcrete Bags (HUGE+)
Plant Material (Tiny)
Trona Minerals (Low)
>>>>>Fuel: Airplane Fuel (Low) Ethanol (uses Food)
>>>>>Total Pop: 249 Humans (and companions) +55 Infants +40 Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Total Armaments (proportionate to the total pop) Below Average
>>>>>>Weapons: Type (Subtype, Amount, Condition)
-Conventional Melee Weapons
(Legion) - Moderate
-Conventional Firearms
(Legion) - Moderate
(Mercenary) - Moderate
-Energy Firearms
(Human Plasma/Laser) - Below Average
(Alien) - Below Average
(Chinese Alien-Jurry Rigged) - Below Average
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional (Below Average) Energy (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor/Uniforms:
(Salvaged Legion, Moderate, Pristine)
(Legion Centurion. Tiny, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Armor, Moderate, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Uniforms, Moderate, Intact)
(7 Alien Bounty Hunter Armor)
(7 Alien Bounty Hunter Big Rifles)
(35 Dr. Mobius Scrubs + Dr. Mobius Glasses)

>OUTPOSTS<
--CHINA RANCH--
++Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 25 Securitrons MKV. +25 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>> Infrastructure: Ruined buildings. Digital Radio Tower.
>>>>> Power: Big Alien Battery
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Animals:

--TRONA---
++Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 25 Securitrons MKV +25 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>> Infrastructure: Ruined buildings. Digital Radio Tower
>>>>> Power: Big Alien Battery
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Animals:

---NEWBERRY SPRINGS---
++BigMT Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 25 Securitrons MK5 +25 Spy-Eye Bots
!NEW!
>>>>> Infrastructure: Houses. Lake. Hemp Farm (Small). Banana Yucata (Medium) Spice Farm (tiny). Water Pump to BigMT. Electrical Wires to BigMT
>>>>> Power: Borrowed from BIgMT.
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. *Nat100* Robot Defenses.
>>>>>Animals:
>>>>>Other: Omni-Agronator!

---THE TWIN MINES (West+South)---
>>>>>Military: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Railroads. Open Pit Quarry.
>>>>>Defenses: Mountain
>>>>>Animals:
>>>>>Other:

>Marcus
"If I don't ever have to see another railroad car it will be too soon."

>Mutant
"That very hard job. Like build Cath-E-Dral for da Master."

>Lilly
"Goodness my bones ache. I could use a nice break after that."

---

---THE CRATER---
>>>>>Morale: Above Average (Stable)
Permanent:
Patriotism (Below Average- Phoenix Commonwealth)
Military Pride (Low)
!NEW!
>>>>>Current Pop:
31 Human
20 Infants
1 Ghoul
>>>>>Garrison:
5 Devils Brigade - Power Armor
19 Couriers Companions - Arcade, Doc Delilah, Cass, Raul, Veronica, ED-E, Rusty, Wendy Gilbert, Hazel, Desmond Harper, Vanessa, Joana, AXE MAN, Milton+Hans, Sonia, Riddick, Dean Domino, Couripor, Mary-Jo Casey
+1 Super Heavy Omni-Constructor
+10 MKV Hazard-Salvager Securitron
+10 Sentry Shield-Juggernaut Minigunners
+33 Securitrons MKV
+60 Small Flyer Repairbots
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
+50 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>>Prisoner: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Higgs Village Warehouse [6 Intact Homes w/{Toilets, Air Condition}, Indoor living area. Raul’s Shack. Follower Hospital. 5 Box Cars. Latrines. Plumbing Water. Heated Water. Indoor Ventilation.) The DOME. The SINK (BigMT Command Center. The THINK TANK). The FORBIDDEN ZONE. . Boom Town Shooting Course Lobotomite Pleasure House (Primitive). Constrution Site (Small). Y-0 Research Center. Scrap Performance Stage. X-2 Transmitter Array. Hemp Farm.
Chinese War Factory
Chemical Mill (Small)
Concrete Military HQ/Barracks + Intelligence Center - James Bond. General Kreger.
Magneto Hydraulics Plant Robotics Facility
Cass' Multipurpose Ethanol/Alcohol Distillery (Tiny)
X-12 Biological Research Plant (Small)
Automated Hexcrete Plant (Small)
Securitron Deconstructino Plant / General Robotics Research Facility (Small)
X-13 Research Factility / Medical VR University (Small)
X-2 Antennae Transmitter Array - Mr. New Vegas. Ms. New Washington
Doppler Radar
>>>>>Defenses: Radar Fence/Mountain Range. Laser Turrets (Few)
Watch Towers. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Riddick’s Charge Co. Dodger. 1 Giant Crane (Ruined) 1 Alien Scoutship (INTACT)
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (HUGE). BigMT Underground Reactors
>>>>>>Other
+The THINK TANK
+Dr. MOBIUS
+Unity
+Julia Farkas
+Arcade Ganon
+Jacob Miles
+Tony Gam
+Janith Kindergarten
+29 Researchers (Followers of the Apocalypse)
+45 Assorted Research Robots (normal)
+55 Captured Female Lobotomites
+67 Captured Male Lobotomites.
+20 Construction Bots
+10 VR Life Support Pods (debrained Version)

CONGRATLATIONS

You survived to turn 100.

>Forecaster
"You just earned a Steam Achievement"

>Courier
"What's that"

>Forecaster
"I don't know"

---

The new Brahmin have been added to the farm, and the baby Brahmin are all grown up.

---

---NEW WASHINGTON---
>>>>>Morale: Above Average (Slowly Falling)
Permanent: Patriotism (Below Average- Phoenix Commonwealth)
>>>>>Armaments: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
203 Human
35 Infants
+40 Super Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Garrison:
2 Couriers Companions – Doc Mitchel, Doc Doc Orderly MD PHD DDS
+15 Mr. Orderly Robots
10 Trained Regular Officers [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans} {Augmented!}
85 Trained Regular Infantry [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}{Augmented!}
40 Child Soldiers “Freeside Rats” (Various)
+20 Super Mutants
+20 NightKin
+100 Securitrons MKV
+83 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>>Prisoner: None
1 Presidental Manor
100 Hexcrete Hex Houses (Indoor plumbing/Shower, electricity)
Asphault Roads. Sewer System. Night Lamps.
Desert Landscaping
Spring Well. Clean Water Tank (Intact)
Banana Yucca Farm (Large)
Cotton Farm (Medium)
Concrete School House (Tiny)
Glass Mill (Small)
Public Washing Machines.
Water Treatment/Fertilizer Plant
(Small) Bar + Cafeteria + Kitchen
Solar Collector Tower Station (Small)
>>>>>Defenses: Disease Quarantine Measures (Primitive)
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird, 1 Fuel Economic Fuel Semi Truck, 7 Tracked Construction Vehicles (Mining Specialized) Jacob Mile's Mr. Fix-It Frame. 5 Chinese Supply Trucks
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (Adequate) {Shared from The Crater}. Electrical Poles. Solar Collector Tower Station (Small)

>>>>>>Other:
+Marcus
+Keene
+34 Herd Animals (Brahmin/Bighorn)
+30 Mr. Howdy's Farming Robots

1 General Boon
1 Robotics Research Boon

>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 100

1 General Boon
1 Robotics Research Boon

>>1662565
The supermutants are living in hexacrete homes, right?

Gonna take a quick brake. If you have pictures you want to repost for me to see, questions for the interrogation or any other post them to me.

Won't be on tomorrow because working whole day again.

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>Intel Officer
"You see the captain captured by Riddick before you, ignoring you entirely."

>>1662572
Yes, most of them. The Nightkin don't because they hate being seen, and also because many of them are still somewhat schizo even with Doc Henry's meds.

>>1662565

Oh Forecaster, I got a name for that Steam Achievement: Unexpected contender

>>1662565

Alright I got something

HERO: Go out into the Divide and meet with Ulysses. See if we can convince him to come to New Washington

The rest I don't know

>>1662565
>civ
scrap the junk at trona that we don't need
>construct
finish the train
>research
look into replicating the reactor in Power armour suits.
>hero
Take the family and kids to the NCR to celebrate their centennial.

>>1662588
1. We don't know where he is. We checked his perch on the mojave side and he disappeared.

2. Its NCR's 100th anniversary. Celebrate, mingle, network, fun for the whole family. And get some connections with NCR brass.

>>1662599

Ah, guess I wasn't there to see that. Well let's celebrate with the family

>>1662589
>>1662588
What is something we could the robotics research boon for?
I want to use it to make the impossible possible, or do we want to save it?
Like stated many times before, it's better to make the impossible, possible than make something good, into great.

>>1662609
well we have this anon's bastion idea
>>1658797
>>1658830

and my Crisis suit robot idea
>>1658929
as a start.
It really depends on what ideas we can come up with

>>1662609

Well if we're going to use the boon to make something impossible possible. Then I propose we make a battle constructor, able to make a multitude of different kinds of warbots.

Or we could go with this anon's >>1662627
Crisis suit idea

>>1662565
>HERO
Courier should continue to steal cattle from the Legion and test the scout-ship's capabilities.

Raul should produce the chips / ingots for the sierra madre machines needed for our new Head cook's requests.

>CIVILIAN
Send the Chinese trucks to go pickup the scrap from Unity's people, salvage the scrap performance stage, salvage the legion armour and melee weapons for their metal content.

>CONSTRUCTION
Start expanding the robotics research facility, so we can install omni-design production facilities.

>RESEARCH
Research the replicators again.


>>1662609
>>1662627
I would suggest saving it for developing either our fighter plane or our anti-tank / tank robots.


>>1662637
That'd be easier to do if we get the next replicator upgrade since we can directly turn battlefield scraps into raw materials and then into bots with little difficulty.

>>1662627
Your also missing the totally not taken idea of my idea. >>1662288

But my question to you is that I want to increase our cap of our food and water. Like building a store house for food, and reservoir for the water.

I also want to tap into the under ground river, but I see that the train is more important now. Also building up more farms, either farmed by our people or robots, but for that we need to build a factory to make robots, since we have robots to farm already.

>>>>>Food: Below Average (Slowly Rising [CAP: Average]
>>>>>Water: Average (Stable) [CAP: Average]

For the Hex buildings we got the pipeline, but with the river, we can build lot more, or farm.

>>1662637
Yeah, mobile factory would be good too.

We do have building a robot factory and construction bots as things we need to do.

>>1662647
>Start expanding the robotics research facility, so we can install omni-design production facilities.
This ^^thing^^ it's to increase our production so we can get robots helping construct/build stuff so we can passive build in the future?

>>1662657
Correct.

Specifically this turn would be excavating as much as we can and Hexcrete-ing it up so we can install machines and shit when we have the needed metal.

>>1662658
then we should finish the train. No sense letting it sit unfinished, making it harder to transport materials.

>>1662662
We lack the metal to do so. This was stated here >>1662546

"Jacob Miles reports progress on the Locomotive repairs. But he exhausted all the metal we had on both new parts and the big alien energy cell for it and he needs more steel, plus another action to repair the Locomotive. From then on it will run on your power-grid via its big battery."

>>1662658
Your idea would be a better use for our Construction since having a train right now, is not needed for a while since we just got huge HEX, and the train will just bring more.

But for Hero how about we go ake the family and kids to the NCR to celebrate their centennial. For the diplomacy ties, and see how the NCR are doing now that our people helped with the supplies.

I think this is the best plan..

>HERO
>Take the family and kids to the NCR to celebrate their centennial. Also it's a diplomacy mission to the NCR, and fun with the family.

Raul should produce the chips / ingots for the sierra madre machines needed for our new Head cook's requests.

>CIVILIAN
Send the Chinese trucks to go pickup the scrap from Unity's people, salvage the scrap performance stage, salvage the legion armour and melee weapons for their metal content.

>Scrap the junk at trona that we don't need.

>CONSTRUCTION
Start expanding the robotics research facility, so we can install omni-design production facilities.

>RESEARCH
Research the replicators again.

What do you think of my changes? Marked in green taking some action from this anon >>1662662
and you.

>>1662664
I know. But if the civ action is picking up scrap from around the place, wed have enough for the train.

>>1662667
If were salvaging scrap like you want, then we should finish the train. The tracks lead to more than just the mines.

>>1662667
>Your idea would be a better use for our Construction since having a train right now, is not needed for a while since we just got huge HEX, and the train will just bring more.
That is why we aren't building the train right now.

>But for Hero how about we go ake the family and kids to the NCR to celebrate their centennial. For the diplomacy ties, and see how the NCR are doing now that our people helped with the supplies.
Pointless. The resources were delivered to their outer lands and we wouldn't be going there for the celebrations. Most of their command staff won't be of importance for diplomatic reasons unless we can meet their president and even then I fail to see what we accomplish from that we can't accomplish by talking to their trade representative.

>I think this is the best plan..
Probably.


>>1662669
That would be an inefficient use of resources since there would be a period of time until the resources were found, processed and delivered where they wouldn't be working.

>>1662671
Correct. They also lead to Trona which lacks major metal deposits or scrap beyond some ruined houses and such.

>>1662673
Going to their party is just one of those diplomatic things. And as a military dictatorship, all the big wigs would be military. Going gets us good relationships and also an excuse to talk to drunk generals.

It wont be that inefficient. Trona is a couple daays away, so as the loads come in, they could be put to use immediately. Were playing turn based. Wasted days are kinda irrelevent.

>>1662667
We should include all companions who want to come, like raul and arcade. Not just baby mothers.

>>1662674
>Courier should continue to steal cattle from the Legion and test the scout-ship's capabilities.

How about we try for some new targets? May not steal people? Or slaves?

>>1662678
>Going to their party is just one of those diplomatic things. And as a military dictatorship, all the big wigs would be military.
They are currently in the middle of a war so chances are that those with actual power would still be working.

>Going gets us good relationships
Which we already have and to be frank, going to parties and such does not mean that relationships will be made better or that they are good.

>excuse to talk to drunk generals.
Do you not understand that they've got decent control over their information? One of their officers quoted "Loose lips, sink ships" to us earlier and I doubt his superiors would be worse.

>>1662682
No. Kidnapping the citizens of the Legion is risky and wouldn't help us. Slaves are also a bad idea seeing as slaves in training are equipped with live bomb collars and the broken ones would be unwilling to leave their masters and such thanks to their excellent training.

>>1662686
You want the Courier to be the pilot with how much flying he's doing?

With his intellect, and his science he could help unlock the secrets of the space craft.

Rolled 58 (1d100)

>>1662647
Supporting

>>1662678
>It wont be that inefficient.
It could be seeing as we would be waiting multiple days for the first load of metal to arrive and it could run out before the second arrives.

>Trona is a couple days away
That is a huge delay.

>Were playing turn based. Wasted days are kinda irrelevent.
True but compare my turn which wastes no time and yours which wastes some and you realise that mine is thus slightly more productive.

>>1662690
True but we need the improved replicators first and in the mean time getting more cattle is good since we can sell them to the NCR or process them for their delicious meat and useful hides.

Also I am fairly sure we have most of the secrets of the craft worked out, it's just a matter of confirming it with OP and getting to work making use of them.

Rolled 65 (1d100)

>>1662698
>we can sell them to the NCR

Best use to keep it to our flock, maybe sell some to our citizens so if any of them are willing they start a private business, of either trading or starting a cattle farm
Just a way to start businesses up, by giving the people some choices.

Alright I'm going to put my weight with you.

>>1662576
OP I'm going to vote to go with this >>1662647
And rolling also if we too.

Didn't OP said to roll with the choices? He kind of does it both way.

>>1662707
Eh, selling them to the NCR was mostly an additional way of getting scrap / metal. Especially since we could load the Brahmin down with trade goods (spices, fabrics when we get the factory running and so on) before sending thus making it even more efficient.

>Didn't OP said to roll with the choices? He kind of does it both way.
So long as he gets his 1d100's I don't think he cares too much.

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>>1662474
Going back to last thread, we must start thinking about air power. We have the alien scout ship and we have already upgraded eyebots. We now need to start thinking about air superiority over the NCR. Fast attack craft with alien shields and a few accurate weapons should give us all we need to keep the skies clear. Bombers and such can be added later.

Also a flying C&C carrier/base.

>>1662725
I would advise we focus on disintegration / laser weapons since eliminating a single wing or engine will take most planes out of the sky and energy weapons are very powerful. Back this up with the fact that Inertia engine crafts can probably stop on a dime and turn about as well and we can out manoeuvre any enemy craft.

Especially if we have them be flown by bots since that eliminates the soft squishy human which limits the intensity of acceleration and cornering a craft can perform. Not to mention the benefits of them being able to directly interface with our other robotic units allowing them perfect knowledge of what our Radar arrays are detecting, where all of our anti-air arrays and other fighters and such are.

As to the shields, they would be great aye.

Some things on how guns and stuff were made in ww2
https://www.quora.com/How-were-tanks-produced-in-WW2
http://knowledgeglue.com/guns-made-inside-filipino-gun-factory/
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS702US702&q=how+are+guns+made&oq=how+are++guns+&gs_l=serp.1.0.0l10.3801.8505.0.13368.20.16.3.0.0.0.185.1777.0j12.12.0....0...1.1.64.serp..5.15.1786...35i39k1j0i131k1j0i20k1j0i67k1j0i22i30k1.tRvSSSkFu2Y

>>1662667
We should finish the train for construction otherwise I support your suggestions

>>1662769
Finishing the train currently is inefficient. We have sufficient supplies of Hexcrete and lack the metal needed to produce the train. Given time we shall acquire more but that is a long term goal.

>>1662505
I suggest we make light hover tanks, strafing is a good ability.
http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Devourer_Tank

>>1662667
Don't just take the family, take the citizens who want to have a vacation too.

>>1662753
The saucers have a heat laser that can even melt hexcrete, we don't need to research disintegration weapons for them.

>>1662795
True but they aren't ideal fighter planes. They travel a bit too slow in my opinion so either we need to increase the power of their engines or design a new one.

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>>1662788
If we solve the power problem, absolutely.

Are people still here?

>>1662792
Nigga, EVERYONE would like to go. We can't take like 300 people with us. We might have seemingly limitless supply of caps but I doubt we can give everyone enough pocket money to spend good time there.

If OP corrects me and says we can, then I don't have anything against that idea.

>>1662805
What do you mean power problem? We can put alien cells to have them run for weeks without charge or we can put in nuclear engine to have it run forever.

>>1662894
As I understand the hover tech is very power draining. The heat ray even more so. Add to that a shield and I dont think a battery will suffice, even if alien.

If, however, I am mistaken and we can do all that with an alien battery I wholeheartedly support that. We have most of the tech anyway. Just a matter of figuring out the details.

Also nuclear is too heavy I think.

>>1662521
>>1662531
>>1662516
see
>>1662574

What do you want to ask the captured prisoners

>>1662942
Who is leasing toi folks?
Where/how do you get/repair your equipment?

>>1662942
Where are our MIAs?
What do you to your Captives?

>>1662942
Do you have any organised leadership? Someone we could talk to?

What happens to the people you capture?

Who started the war between you and the NCR?

Do your people want to live in peace?

>>1662942
Who are you people.
Where they come from.
Why they are fighting ncr
Is there a way to contact someone for diplomatic negotiations.

>>1662952
>"Who is leasing toi folks?"
"The man on the moon, ha!"
>Where/how do you get/repair your equipment?
"Piss off!"
>>1662955
>>1662956
"Oh, worried about your friends you fuck? Well that's easy. If she's a woman and she's pretty don't worry, she's definitely alive. If she's not pretty then somebody will still want her. If they ain't either of those . .well you just hope somebodies in need of a good meatslave and not fucking hungry. But you NCR types are just so fat and juicy, why don't you untie me, I'll let you taste a sample!

hmmmm, but you ain't NCR are you. fuck man, you a merc? you're on the wrong side motherfucker. too bad. The Warchiefs are gonna fuck all your asses one or another. hopefully we do it before the Legion does!"

>>1662956
"I don't know and I don't fucking care who started it. and I damn well don't intend to live in peace with you.

that sniper chick though. . .give her a collar and strip away everything else, then we'll talk. . . and more than that."

>>1662972
gtg to work will answer more questions later today

>>1662972
Waterboarding time? What do my fellow anon's think?

>>1662978
Sure. Let's see if we can't get some actual info out of this guy and if not, we can always give them to Dr Dala to amuse herself.

Speaking of which, we can probably lobotomise these people and make use of them for the Think Tank's bodies.

>>1662978
>>1662979
Reminder that the NCR are in the room and are expecting to be able to keep the captive alive for their own interrogation. Unharmed is not part of that requirement, but they can't do much if they aren't able to speak or something.

>>1662978
>>1662979
Seems like the NCR was right about the slave part, and they also eat them.

Not a healthy thing to add to our society.

We could waterboard them, use our lasers, it burns and cleans the wound at the same time, if set at lower setting to not turn them into gloo.
Use good old shocking, pull things out that shouldn't be pulled, maybe Riddick has somethings he could do.

>>1662985
Oh, I thought they'd be going first.

Okay well standard procedure then: electrocution, non-vital damage (eyes, nails, toes and fingers) and such.

>>1662987
True but it might be the case that some of their people are good. Anyhow we can just take the slaves for population growth and call it a day if they all turn out to be such terrible people.

>>1662988
>True but it might be the case that some of their people are good. Anyhow we can just take the slaves for population growth and call it a day if they all turn out to be such terrible people.

Getting the good people is a hassle, bad people pretending to be good, some good people would fight against us, since they may see us as a threat of their independent.

I would call it a day and just take the slaves, by what he said, the slaves don't be broken in like Legion level, maybe even revolt if they get some leadership.

Courier could do that for a quest, but he's also needed at home.

>>1662972
So is the MLA as bad as the Legion is he just acting tough?

>>1662996
Eh the courier ain't need at home that much. But I would suggest other places for population growth like Utah.

Seriously all we need to do is go there and use our 100 speech and 10 charisma to convince the people to follow us as a cult or something. Then we have our alien scout-ship come in flown by Riddick and pickup five of them at a time (twice as many if they are children) and take them back to New Washington.


>>1662998
Arguably the Legion might be better but in saying that we lack too much information to really say.

>>1663002
No courier cult, if we need the fanaticism we can just use Christianity or patriotism.

>>1662972


Okay, I think we get the gist of these people. MLA looks worse than the legion. Hand him over to NCR

>>1663008
But think about all the possibilities with a cargo cult!

>>1663014
We shouldn't make a cult. We'll give them a better life, without them worshiping us.

>>1663014
No

>>1663008
Who said it was a cult of the Courier? I was just trying to describe how we'd do it.

>>1663017
Well yeah but if they worship us that isn't the worst thing.

>>1663023
How about we go to Hawaii? But it's likely hit hard due to many military targets.

So here is a list of places we can go.
I'm going to say for the most part we'll be scouting.
Utah for native pop.
Legon land for cattle.
Mexico (Bring Raul)
Hawaii (We may not know where it is)
Washington DC (F3 2277) (Us 2284) so river treatment is up and running.
Commonwealth (F4 2287) (Us 2284) so we change shit, get that robot puss, and other synth shit.
Texas (Around the storm)
Other states.

I just want our Courier to have a quest while our civ is going well on it's own. Since I feel we'll not in trouble and when we are we can't go anywhere.

>>1663058
I'd imagine we know where Hawaii is since we have certainly seen a globe of the world or a map.


However we should certainly get to work unifying the Utah region under us and shit.


We could take our actual soldiers and shit and unify some towns under us and work from there converting the population into more soldiers and improving their towns.

As once we have our actual robot construction set up in New Washington we could ship over robots and such to establish small scale local production of anything we need using our scoutship to lift it or potentially by that point we might even have new aircraft..

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Since it looks like we're doing replicator research, I tried my hand at designing one. Put materials in their raw form in the left, get the product from the right. Small Nuclear plant to do away with the need of fissile materials.

Hopefully op will give a bonus. If like to spend it on no fissile requirements.

>>1663163
and by designing I mean going on Google and blatantly stealing other people's work

>>1663163
I was thinking keeping it rather small. Like the size of an oven, maybe a fridge if need be. We know the vending machines arent that big, so we dobt really have to make personal use ones so much bigger.

Larger replicators could be nationalized and have the people requisition big stuff.
I imagine people wont be making big things very often, so having an excessively large replicator is wasting space.

>>1663173
I don't think we should have personal ones at all. It's waste of resources.
Just have people order shit through Alexa, once that's done, the nearest replicator will produce it and a delivery bot will bring it to their doorstep.

The size will have to be increased since we can't produce big components.

>>1663163
Actually the reason for needing fissile materials is so it can make heavier / lighter elements and thus turn the steel / metal component of the chip / ingot feed material into products. A reactor doesn't really effect this.

The enhancement we'd be researching is essentially overcoming the forces between the particles that make up the material in order to directly recombine them I would imagine.

>>1663173
That'd be for the best but I don't think we'll be seeing civilian purpose replicators for some time yet since they are energy intensive. We might however see the creation of some sort of communal place where they can access a replicator to produce things they want in return for the theorised ration point currency.

>>1663178
Yeah that'd work too.

I would also point out we've researched the size increase already and can use it to produce large weapons and such. Given an additional upgrade we could probably print entire couches without problems. If that doesn't become available then some of my ideas become a little less feasible. Though I've already considered solutions.

>>1663178
Eh. Lots of things can technically be waste of resources. But its a luxury that makes people happy. People would be happier to get things fresh out of the replicator, especially if we scan and make available cooked food, or personal tools.

>>1663184
>
Actually the reason for needing fissile materials is so it can make heavier / lighter elements and thus turn the steel / metal component of the chip / ingot feed material into products. A reactor doesn't really effect this.

>The enhancement we'd be researching is essentially overcoming the forces between the particles that make up the material in order to directly recombine them I would imagine.

Eh, it's just a drawing. OP will explain how it works. I was just throwing ideas around

>>1662978

Let's see how tough he'll act when he's got a burning flare up his ass.

>>1663002

They both deserve to be wiped out I say, kill every last one of the goddamn things. Save the slaves.

>>1663186
They are very, very expensive. At least at this point. If it can be something accessible as refrigerators, washing machines and other household appliances then sure, let's put one in every home. But that will take a lot of time.

>>1663197
Yeah, its a long term plan. Have a large replicator in each town as a start will be fine.

>>1663198

Like I said in one of the earlier threads, our civilization will either be a utopia or a Huxley worthy dystopia

>>1663194
Maybe we van try some good cop. That may help. Though we should invest in truth serums that actually work.

As for the enemy soldiers, if they surrender, they're POWs. If they don't, they die.

>>1663193
True but still.

>>1663194
Eh, turn the other cheek and all that. If we can find any good then we should endeavour to save it. Then we can burn the rest.

>>1663206
Either way that'd be better than the NCR.

>>1663211

>Eh, turn the other cheek and all that. If we can find any good then we should endeavour to save it. Then we can burn the rest.

Maybe we can find an Octavian in the Legion, would be nice to find at least one good seed.

>Either way that'd be better than the NCR.

Let's just hope that morlocks/tunnelers will never be a problem for our Commonwealth then.

>>1663219
We should just gas the tunnels. They're animals, and we should slaughter them like animals. Not just the men, but the women and the childreb too.

>>1663222

Yeah, or we could have one of those tunneler queens raised from birth. Have them as pets

>>1663224
We gan go and find the eggs once we get rid of the wild tunnelers. Otherwise we'd be sneaking into inhabited tunnels, Which didnt go so well last time.

>>1663224
Or we could gass all of them and pay out bounties for those we didnt get. Then clone them as needed from tissue samples, if that ever becomes necessary. Dont let these bastards live. Its gonna bite us in the ass down the road.

So shall we continue the endless discussion of how we should develop our military and such?


I'll start by saying that I am impressed by how well our troops are doing. Seeing as they've never seen combat, real or VR, and aren't exactly the most well trained or equipped in my opinion compared to what we probably could accomplish given time.

However we can clearly improve their abilities further and I want ideas on how to do so. Obvious ones being improving their armour, actually training them in hand to hand combat and such. Another being giving them all some sort of robotic companion to assist them on the battlefield or perhaps at the squad level.

>>1663281
Obviously, we should get them into VR. We shouldn't waste time and effort perfecting non debrained versions. We need to convince them to debrain. Once we reach critical mass of debrained population, the rest will follow suit, save some hardcore detractors.

Get everyone a pip boy so that they have access to VATS. Once we get some hardlight research we should develop an advanced pop boy using alien tech. It will be similar to omni tool from mass effect.

Robo companion is a great idea. I suggest a hover drone like the eyebots but better. They could connect to the eyes or the helmets of the soldiers to relay info.

New weapons. Having everyone wield plasma is cool and all but even ncr troops have better weapons. We need to develop new kind of energy weapons using alien tech and I suggest favoring heavy weapons since all of our troops are augmented.

Develop better augmentations.

>>1663309
Do our vr pods work on brains or bodies?

We also have researched normal vr pods and holodecks. We can build one of those for everyone else. Id prefer the holodeck for the physical activity.

>>1663309
>Obviously, we should get them into VR. We shouldn't waste time and effort perfecting non de-brained versions. We need to convince them to de-brain. Once we reach critical mass of de-brained population, the rest will follow suit, save some hardcore detractors.
Eh, de-braining might have potential for problems like weakness to certain weapons but I doubt it. I'll support such an initiative.

>Get everyone a pip boy so that they have access to VATS. Once we get some hard-light research we should develop an advanced pop boy using alien tech. It will be similar to omni-tool from mass effect.
Yeah something like that but for now just getting VATS software into our robots and soldier's would be good. Maybe it could be equipped to their eyes or something?

>Robo companion is a great idea. I suggest a hover drone like the eye-bots but better. They could connect to the eyes or the helmets of the soldiers to relay info.
Yeah something like that.

>New weapons. Having everyone wield plasma is cool and all but even NCR troops have better weapons. We need to develop new kind of energy weapons using alien tech and I suggest favouring heavy weapons since all of our troops are augmented.
Actually our weapons are about as effective as their high calibre rifles but I agree we should attempt to further develop our weapons and shit. I also agree with them moving towards heavy weapons since for the most part our troops will be shock troopers and such.

Another idea that occurred to me, we should make them all Saturnite knifes or something for close range. Maybe their officers can have an actual sword (or we get a ripper with Saturnite teeth) and instead of them carrying a rifle, a grenade launcher or similar such weapon.

>Develop better augmentations.
Aye we can certainly improve the current ones. Things like making their eyes function as NV / Heat vision. Maybe making it so that our AI / Brain commanders and such can project information into their vision / highlight objects of interest and shit.

Another idea would be to look into further improving their mental and physical aptitude enhancers. Making them faster, stronger, smarter and over all: better.

>>1663314
>Do our vr pods work on brains or bodies?
Bodies, brains can do VR shit without it assuming they have enough computing power I would imagine.

>We also have researched normal vr pods and holodecks.
Actually the only model of VR pods we have is for those who have been de-brained.

>We can build one of those for everyone else. Id prefer the holodeck for the physical activity.
True but if the concern is physical activity, minor electrode-stimulus can sustain and grow muscles and such. Which leaves only the lungs and I am certain there is a scientific way to make the body develop those.

Hey anons. From now on, we devlear no women in active combat roles right?

>>1663319
No. All shall pay the highest price or none shall. Thus is the great truth.

Anyhow, we can just give every troop a cyanide pill or something.


Also I plan on developing artificial wombs to develop children in so that reduces the problems caused by losing many women.

>>1663318
We have normal vr pods and holodecks researched but not built. We researched them a while back.

Also a holodeck woild be safer- in an emergency power outage/shutdown, holodecks turn off and people can leave. Vr pods shut of with peoples minds not in their bodies. They have to leave the sim first.

>>1663322
I am uncertain we did research them as I vaguely remember us deciding they were good enough and moving on.

As to that second point, I don't know if that is accurate and would need to get OP's opinion on it.

>>1663321
They can still be support roles. I just meant active so they don't get kidnapped and turned into breeding cattle for our enemies.

>>1663327
No. All shall be the same for the meat grinder that is war and if they want to avoid such a fate, they can commit suicide after being captured or fight to the death.

>>1663323
As long as we arent stupid and put the holodeck on a seperate power grid, turn off the power and the projectors turn off, leaving a room.

For pods, if they're like tranquility lanes, you can't get pulled out- you have to leave or be kicked out. So power outages won't be good.

>>1663327
Well men get kidnapped and turned into chum, so we still lose a person regardless of gender.

>>1663331
>For pods, if they're like tranquillity lanes, you can't get pulled out- you have to leave or be kicked out. So power outages won't be good.
Again, I see no evidence for this beyond your belief. Without OP's confirmation I won't believe such a statement.

Especially given the method by which all this shit works, it makes sense to believe they have some sort of safety features and such to prevent such problems - if - they could arise.

>>1663333
Hold on Anon are you just stupid or do you refuse to see my point?

Iirc, op said that VR pods are much more effective than the holodeck. Perhaps if we build a massive holodeck it will be as effective.

>>1663338
Well if theyre turning kidnapped soldiers into breeding cows, theyre going to all be dead in the 15-16 years it takes for the children to becone soldiers because were going to kill them. So its not like theyd be filling their army with the rape babies.

So it becomes a matter of being torured and violates which can happen to any soldier, male or female. So if We're keeping women away, why not men?

>>1663318
Here is idea concerning debraining and augmentation.
Research tesla coils and augments so that we can stuff the head with augs filling all that empty place!

>>1663345
So yes, Your actually being an idiot. Thank you for being upfront about it.

>>1663347
Yeah I'll be honest I don't see your point either.

>>1663347
Why dont you explain why im an idiot instead of just saying so like you're the foremost authority on idiocy.

>>1663347
I don't see any reason to bar women from service either.

>>1663358
Because men make better soldiers?

>>1662327
>Comparing yourself to the history of others, President Tandi's NCR was five settlements and as many states in 3 years.

Was it really 3 years?
Also I don't think it's fair to count only from when Tandy became president. Shady Sands existed as a settlement and vault 15 before that.

We started 3 years ago with almost nothing to work on.
You should count from when vault 15 opened its doors

>>1663359
Not really, with all the chrome were sticking in them, I imagine the physicality differences begin approaching 0.

For recruits, as long as they meet the single standard, they're in.

>>1663359
>>1663358
I didn't state Bar women from entering the service. I stated bare them from active combat roles.

>>1662435
>>1662437
We could research and build armor then have the Courier deliver it on the scout ship. Just make sure no one sees it.

>>1663364
I believe? We have almost everything needed for the Nylon or Plyon i forget which of the armor we went with.

>>1663363
Yeah, but you still havent given a good reason to do so.

>>1663359
In real life, yes. But not in falloutverse. Men and women are absolutely equal in that regard.

>>1663365
Remember the design Moreno suggested. OP said we just need to spend research action and build it. I suggest we research it in such a way as to make it a base for PA.

>>1663370
I don't actually remember that at all. Mind telling me what is was or where?

>>1663363
I fully suppport this course of action, bar from direct combat .

>>1663362
While you are correct there are other factors such as pregnency one has to consider. Also do bear in mind that in even though they are augmented and undoubtebly are stronger and better soldiers than unaugmented men they are still not as good as augmented men when it comes to soldiering. Keep them out of the line of fire but do not bar them from service as they not only endanger themselves but also their comrades. There is also the risk of capture that has to be considered. Imagine the uproar and rage felt by soldiers if one of their fellow men is captured and tortured. Now imagine if it was a woman that is being raped and tortured. How much would more ferociously the men fight to save them, even going so far as to jeopardize missions to save their female compatriots from what they perceive to be their doom?

>>1663368
Stil the issue of pregnancy and maternity leave and other psychological reasons listed here: >>1663373

>>1663372
Last thread i believe. Might have been the one before that.

>>1663370
I was hoping we get something similiar to. Mjollnir armour before we ship them out. Won't likely have shields, but we can fix that later. We do have advanced servos from the bounty hunter armour.

>>1663330
Grow our own kind of fanatics. I like!

>>1663373
Eh. I find that logic rather lacking.
Pregnancy can be solved with birth control- make an iud standard. Also some thing similiar for men.

Fallout verse, there is not much difference in a woman's capability and a man's. Even if there were, our women are stronger and better than an ncr soldier man. Also its bot like we'd deprive a capable male soldier a spot in the army because a woman took it. Our human forces are as large as the amount of people who want to join and meet the standard.

Your last argument is nda bullshit. Your essentially saying if a woman was on the field, and bad things happen, our men would be emotionally compromised. As if our men are so undiciplined they would throw themselves away to rescue the poor woman soldier. Thats kinda sexist to both genders.

>>1663376
>Mjollnir armor

What's that?

And what, do you guys think my idea to send them armor with the scout ship to be good? Sweet

>>1663393
Halo armour. To go with our kinda spartans.

>>1663393
https://www.halopedia.org/MJOLNIR_Powered_Assault_Armor

>>1663394
>>1663393
>>1663382
>>1663374
we have the lab for doing genetic shit with right? Could we not take the DNA of the Enclave soldiers we have and piece by piece rebuild the Scrums used in them?

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>>1663372

>Moreno
"If we get our soldiers stronger and able to carry more weight on longer distances, we could get them to carry some heavier body armor. Something that looks close to the Enclave and American uniforms, but also not green but tan for better desert camoflague.

Something like this."

He shows you a sketch
Shame that we didn't get them before going to the expedition. We'd look absolutely badass and that would be a great first impression.

>>1663391
Good point on the birth control, I know that the SANDF used to put stuff in the men's food to dial the sex drive back so you are right. As for the rest... Am I wrong in saying that most sane men would do anything to stop women that they know and have gotten close to from getting gang raped unto death?

>>1663400
Oh That, Ya I remember now thanks mate.

>>1663373
>You
It occurs to you to wonder how this can be avoided. Certainly the NCR does not mind women in their front lines, and even among their ranger elites.

You Remember the one NCR female soldier who was raped by Cook Cook the fiend, and buried her psychological trauma under a veneer of homosexuality.

Then there are the select group of rangers captured by the Legion. In their case at least, the legion respects their tenacity and notes the difficulty in capturing them alive due to fighting to the death.

Notably there are female NCR stormtroopers too.

>>1663401
Most men would also want to save their brother from being taken and tortured, which may include sexual abuse. So in the end, they would be enraged and motivated to stop the abduction no matter the gender.

>>1663406
Wasn't she an actual lesbian, and pushed the trauma down through excessive promiscuity?

>>1663401
In real life, yes. It is a known fact that women in service fuck up the men's behavior just by being there.

We this is not real life and they're is no difference between men and women in combat.

>>1663396
Didn't know that halo armor was so impressive lore-wise.

Unfortunately, we won't come even close to that level anytime soon. Would be better just to research and build enclave power armor for everyone.

>>1663414
Either or. The NCR seems to, for lack of resources for military psychiatry, promote what Moreno terms as a "don't ask don't tell mentality" which he says is a term for "turning a blind eye to faggots"

>>1663419
Honestly you could say Enclave Hellfire armor is on Par with Mk.1 of the body armor, Which lacked the shields. However the Crashed UFO has shields to Re-RnD

>>1663422
But Moreno, Arcade is a faggot.

Unless that was supposed to be a secret, then don't tell him that. Is arcade being gay a secret from the remnants?

>>1663410
You are severely underestimating the horrors savages tend to wreak upon women if you do not believe me look up some South African farm murders. Not to mention every culture with regards to protecting women from harm but I am an uncivilized 3rd worlder so what do I know?

>>1663415
>>1663406
Falloutverse being Fallout verse I agree on the lack of meaningful difference.

>>1663426
Arcade isn't in a combat role, So its less an issue.

>>1663426
Moreno and Arcade display a perfect example of the enclaves don't ask don't tell policy. He's openly gay. Moreno doesn't ask and doesn't talk about it.

Though from his tone of voice and further conversation he seems to believe in a very vault like ideology where marriage is for procreation. Evidently this was commonplace in the Old world too surprisingly.

The enclave and America were once avid believers in the Nailed God faith which banned homosexuality, but for reasons they seem to have abandoned it. The only further hints to this is some civil strife in the Enclave that neither Moreno or Kreger want to, or able to, speak about.

>>1663438
Arcade and Veronica have some interesting conversations about it actually. Although two people who agree on something doesn't leave for lengthy conversation.

>>1663433
He seems to have a general disdain for the gay, rather than disdain for gays in the army.

>>1663431
I recognize people can do terrible things to women, but being a man does not protect you from being tortured in any way.

Also, i don't think we should be coming out and officially putting more value on any one gender. It comes with the implication that the other gender is more expendable.

>>1663440
There I have to beg to differ as there are more options when it comes to women but let us agree to disagree on this? That is a very, very good point and a very sensitive topic. Do you want to get into that debate?

>>1663445
No not really. Agree to disagree.

Anyone still here?

>>1663521
Op posting gave me hope that there will be an update but apparently he's being a cocktease again.

>>1663528
I dont think any of the actions for the turn has 3 votes.

>>1662667
Vote for this

>>1662667
Supporting this too.
I would very much like to begin construction of a aircraft factory soon so we can reach the commonwealth in time.

>>1662667
Supporting even though I'm not quite sure what the purpose of construction action is. I think it is better to build robot construction facility

>>1663546
I think its building the factory as another wing to the research facility. Which i guess makes things easier.

>>1663550
So robotics research and production facility in one? Should we spend our robotics boon for this? To improve both research and production capabilities.

>>1663560
We already have the research facility up. He just wants to add another wing and put production. No boon needed.

>>1663561
>>1663561
You're right.

We could use that boon to develop better programming. Mark VII, without any berserking. Then we could update our robots in the field and suddenly it is as if we sent another hundred bots as reinforcements. Iirc Mark V improves efficiency by 350%,while Mark VI by 500.

>>1663588
supporting

>>1663588
Eh. I don't think weve explored different hardware possibilities to warrent using a boon for software boosts. As we saw, we are lacking in anti armour, and new programming wont fix that anywhere as much as wed like.

>>1663534
I will be home soon. I might need to take a short epsom bath for my feet before they decide to overthrow my brain with pain, but I'll do my best to turn an update.
If anything has three votes link them. Then roll 3 1d100 linking to that.

Rolled 11 (1d100)

>>1662667
This action has three votes.

Rolling

Rolled 25 (1d100)

>>1662667
apprently this guy >>1663698

F

Rolled 4 (1d100)

>>1662667
Rolling

Rolled 35 (1d100)

>>1663712
>>1663714
>>1663720
boo. Not good

Rolled 47 (1d100)

>>1663712
>>1663714
>>1663726
Could be better

>>1663712
>>1663714
>>1663720
We're spending our last boon on the replicator research right?

>>1663741
>Literally 1 last thing for the replicator
>W...WE'RE USING A BOON ON IT RIGHT
Fuck that shit. Nobody Critc-failed.

>>1663741
i guess. Nothing mundane to research for replicators.

>>1663751
Save it for something we don't have a surplus of.

>>1663755
The only upgrades left for the replicator requires a boon.

>>1663759
Where the hell does it state that? And there is 1 upgrade left last i checked.

>>1663760
It states so the last time we researched replicator tech.

>>1663797
And that was when?

>>1622483

>[X] Make More Vending Machines - We should focus on building more of the machines as is. The replica machines may not be as reliable for research purposes, but should function the same and also open up the bottleneck. And in the least, it means we have more parts for future research that aren't from the Sierra Madre, even if they aren't as efficient.
>[X] More Conventional Products - The type of products we can make are limited http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Sierra_Madre_vending_machine. Let's expand this to a much wider variety of items such as clothing, standard ammunition types (including energy), medicines, small-medium weapon parts, armor, etc.

CHOOSE:

[ ] Make it Bigger - If we make it bigger we can make much bigger things that normally wouldn't fit in it. Like parts for heavy weapons and such.

[ ] Easier Interface - We don't need to be spending hours and days making coins AND putting in coins of fissile materials into the machine. Lets figure out how to program it to accept larger ingots and churn out several products at a time.

BOON (Optional - You currently only have 1)
>[ ] Non-Fissile Materials! - If we spend most of our alien parts, we can figure out a way to hook up a disintegrator to this device. Then we no longer have to rely on hard to get radioactive isotopes. We can just expend energy instead and feed it normal metals!
>[X] Alien Parts! - If we spend most of our alien parts, we can figure out how to replicate more alien parts! Such as the fabled alien energy cells and alien power modules, and parts for their various weapons. This will make alien weapons research easier.
>[ ] Mini Nukes! - Mini Nukes! (you just can't make these!)
>[~]Very Specific Scientific Research - We can put this toward a very specific research for a huge boon on it and its various branches. Like neurology and mind control for example.
[X] Energy to Bullets (Boon)
[X] Perfect Sierra Madre Replication (Nat100)
[X] Alien Knowledge (Boon)

so i guess we could make it bigger,

>>1663822
Ah, So the Non-fissile Materials is required. Thank you Anon. I apolgize and support that if we're going for Non-fissile.

>>1663822
You also finished easier interface. You can put in metal ingots and fissile fuel canisters directly now, reducing the need for actions to convert them into Sierra Madre chips.

>>1663846
Yeah, i know. Just copied the latest version. Should have mentioned it though.

[ ] Make it Bigger - If we make it bigger we can make much bigger things that normally wouldn't fit in it. Like parts for heavy weapons and such.

>>1663822
[ ] Make it Bigger - If we make it bigger we can make much bigger things that normally wouldn't fit in it. Like parts for heavy weapons and such.
>[ ] Non-Fissile Materials! - If we spend most of our alien parts, we can figure out a way to hook up a disintegrator to this device. Then we no longer have to rely on hard to get radioactive isotopes. We can just expend energy instead and feed it normal metals!


With this we can produce large weapons like machine guns, rocket launchers and such. Or alternatively, similarly sized robots and components. Thus in theory we can have factories produce robotic modular parts (like our Securitron's) and assemble them from the non-fissile materials they have been fed.

This also makes the battlefield re-constructor a viable concept. Ignoring the power problems.

>>1664103
>>1663997
We need to give get rid of the cost for Fissile Matierals. That's a life saver

>>1664110
Yeah. It means that we can in theory just have generic "factories" of replicators and just feed them materials.

It also means we could construct a tunnel digger that disintegrates the ground in front of it as it goes and converts them into concrete / hexcrete for the walls. Along with any other materials needed like, for example, copper wire or steel rails.

>>1664110
Yup I agree. Once we get rid of fissile cost, we'd be able to have more freedom to use the fissile's for energy purposes, and the replicators would be cheaper to manufacture.

>>1664131
Yeah it means we can dedicate all the fissile material to making more fusion batteries for our robots and such.

Also, just making sure we understand we can perform a boon research and a ordinary one in the same action if I remember rightly. So we can make them bigger and do the non-fissile upgrade.

>>1664164
I think it's optional to spend a boon. Only 1 result per action.

>>1664174
Nah it means Optional as in you can do these as well if you want from my memory of when we did all the other researches.

>>1664180
Should probably ask the QM to make sure. When we did the Alien Parts we spent a boon, but got nothing else out of it.

>>1664183
True. If we can't then we can do another research next turn.

>>1664174
This is correct. I was being generous before.

That said while boons are limited it isn't like you don't get a civil action every turn anyway.

I'm home now and awake and feeling better. Let's get this turn a rolling.

>>1664456
Really? Well that is a shame, it would've allowed us to more or less finish all the replicator research and move onto bigger and better things using it.

Oh well, we can find a spot for it somewhere else in our endless list of needed actions.

>>1663714
Hoboy, writing

>>1662667
>>HERO
>>Take the family and kids to the NCR to celebrate their centennial. Also it's a diplomacy mission to the NCR, and fun with the family.
The Senteniel isn't for a year anons, or well, at least a few months.

But let's see about a vacation to the NCR.

>>1664471
>The Senteniel isn't for a year anons, or well, at least a few months.

The way you worded it sounds like it was happening real soon. But at least with the vacation our courier can see how the NCR thinks of our merc help

>>1664471
Oh. Well maybe we can get an official invite to some high tier parties. Meet the important people.

>>1664471
Since our mercs finished the job before the 7 turns, do they still stay and help the NCR or do they return home?

>>1664956
They are leased to them for 7 turns. Or as long as they can fight.


Also another idea for how to improve our troops, if we make their weapons respond to some sort of ID chip embedded in their hands in order to fire, we can render them useless to scavengers and enemies. Preventing valuable assets being turned against us.

If op gives boon for designing and drawing then I suggest going non fissile materials
>>1663163

>>1664988
We're at turn 100 right now, and once OP is finished writing the posts, it's be 101.

We send our troops at turn 97.In thread 15.

>>1665041
So we should get them back in another 3 to 4 turns depending on how they calculate it. Unless we sign on for another tour of duty which we might but with a purely robotic force reinforced by some of the shit we'll be building soon.


Speaking of which, we should probably get our general's / officer's opinions as to what they need to get the job done on the battle field or if there are any gaps in our army they feel need to be filled. Should probably ask the same of the TACT's command brain since it will know more for the robotics side of things.

>>1665056
We'll have to see. We can renegotiate the deal once the contract is up.

>>1664988
We need to make new armour and weapons, and improve the robotics force to be more flexible.

>>1665095
>We can renegotiate the deal once the contract is up.
Personally I'd advise getting more metal and fissiles again because even if we don't need it for the replicators we can run it through them and turn it into steel or something.

>We need to make new armour and weapons
Oh very true.

>improve the robotics force to be more flexible.
How though? They performed their roles well and we just need to reinforce them with a few new models and they will perform their job very well.

>>1665124
We should stop just tacking things onto the existing securitron frame and develop something new.

things like
this anon's bastion idea
>>1658797 →
>>1658830 →

and my Crisis suit robot idea
>>1658929 →

>>1665185
Where in the hell did I say that? I am saying we should develop new robots to fill supporting roles.


Also the Securitron fills it's role very well and I fail to see why we should replace it.

>>1665193
You said "we just need to reinforce them with a few new models". I interpreted that as develop new Securitron variants. My mistake. Support robots would be useful, I agree.

But I still stand by my point. Securitrons have done well, but they have apparent troubles when dealing with enemy armour for one thing. They lack the firepower needed to break our enemies as well as they should.

Also by starting fresh we can ensure all parts are made with as much modern materials and technology as we can make them.

>>1665236
I already have plans to augment their fire power.

Primarily the development of LAER-based automatic weapons to replace their conventional Gatling lasers but also replacing their 9mm sub-machine-gun with something else. Either another auto-LAER or some sort of high calibre rifle like the anti-material rifle.

Another idea is to try and further develop their rocket pods to fire multiple payloads. Explosive, incendiary, smoke, gas and even a idea I had was mines they could launch.


I would also point out that our Securitrons have done very well. They've just had shit luck for their encounters with the enemy seeing as the first and only time, the enemy was miles off literally and then rushed in unexpectedly, closing too fast for us to damage effectively. By which point we were so focused on dealing with them that their other forces closed on their buggies and dismounted.

Had we had some melee robots to deal with these reinforcing Super-mutant and human combatants, our losses would have been greatly reduced but considering they had weapons specifically to counter robots (EMP pads) we did very well. Especially since a fair few of our losses came from charging a Tesla tower rather than actual fighting for the most part.

Had our firing line focused on the buggies as they drove in and only the humans and such turned to deal with the Jet-truck-tesla-tower we might not have done as much damage to it but would probably have taken less serious losses.


Anyhow we've got a fair few ideas to make Securitrons more effective: the VATS software enhancement, the eye-bot sensor targeting assistance and so on. Not to mention generally just working on their software based off of the data we get from each battle.

Plus we've also developed (light to medium) artillery bots to prevent charges like the jet-truck working again assuming we can get a decent lock-on using other robots which we almost certainly can.


Also something I noticed when reading up on the Securitrons, turns out their rocket pods are graded to hit aircraft too but it is never specified what kind. So we are somewhat protected in that regard too against anything not too advanced and shit.

Again with the cockteasing, op...

>>1665344
4 hours since last post OP
I think he fell asleep.

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Since someone said that my previous replicator design was too big, I tried my hand at compacting it a little.

>>1665790
If this replicator can turn out pip-boys, then we outfit our troops with them, and make more things that is needed around the place.

We did the research of the sierra machine that something scanned, it can now make it. Why don't we scan our pip-boy?
Unless OP otherwise stated, as a free action I want our Pip-boy scanned, and we send fissile and metal that at least our officers has one.

>>1665823
Actually the utility of Pip-boys is fairly small in some regards.


However we could see about incorporating it into our next-gen armour program.

>>1665827
The thing about pip-boys is mainly the VET system.

We ourselves can't make it, we didn't research it, so as a quick short term fix. Just scan the pip, and we'll have at least officers have VETS.

So it's better short term gain, and once we upgrade, they can either be used for citizens, or used to train new troops before moving them up to the VET armor we'll make.

>>1665836
Well I'd point out it should be as simple as getting our software experts / developers to take a look at the code and work it out.

If it's encrypted we can throw it James Bond's way since he has some skill with that sort of thing.

>>1665827
Pip boy utility is very high and it can help virtually everyone.
But for now, we should replicate enough for our soldiers in the field. Producing is cheaper than replicating, at least at this point.

>>1665842
I'm saying same turn we outfit our army. The thing you'll saying will take at least 3 turns or more.

>>1665851
Producing them would require a factory for them. Which in turn would need all the materials that go into a pip-boy and such.


Anyhow with our newly improved replicators we only need power and materials which we can definitely get enough of to make our troops pip-boys or possibly even an enhanced version of our own design.

>>1665855
Eh, we haven't upgraded replicators yet and we need a boon for that research. It's not clear if op is going to grant research boon for the designs.

I'm pretty sure that Chinese war factory could produce pip boys once we have researched them.

Anyone agree to spend next turn designing, building and delivering armor for our troops in the field by using the scout ship? We can also add the pip boy replication idea.

That's all actions accounted for.

Research new armor
Construct new armor
Civ action to scan and replicate pip boy
Hero action to deliver the goods.

>>1665856
We have a boon as of >>1662565 which is the last OP turn post. It's why we are performing the research into replicator technology again.

>I'm pretty sure that Chinese war factory could produce pip boys once we have researched them.
Nope. Pip-boys were the cutting edge of pre-war computing technology seeing as they are a arm mounted computer that is just as if not more powerful than the Rob-co consoles you find everywhere. That is before you consider their biological sensors, Geiger counter, radio, light, ability to play holotapes and so on.

>>1665857
No. Even assuming I thought it was a good idea to fly the scoutship across the entire NCR to reach our troops and then land it in the middle of a NCR convoy so they could get their armour, it would also require flying over MLA land and they have anti-air weapons too.

Literally it will get us killed, our craft destroyed and so much more fucked up.

>>1665860
The scout ship can reach space. Fly high enough and no AA will reach us. Nobody will even notice us.
We don't have to land in the middle of the convoy. Just put the package somewhere and have our troops retrieve it.

But, eh, I won't push for it.

>>1665868
Mate, don't you think that someone in the NCR will question where our troops went to get these new suits of armour?

Also we do have to land somewhere and chances are we will get hit by some AA and that is a risk I don't want to take until I know for certain we can make more.

But if you won't push it, we can see about something a bit longer term like sending it via the NCR's air-force as a airdrop or something. That or we design a robot to bring it in or something that they can fly in.

How about taking some ques from the dark trooper?http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_trooper
The ability for the frame itself to fight on in case of the wearer getting incapacitated sounds like it could be fairly useful.

>>1665877
Well we certainly can incorporate the technology from the VX trauma frame or whatever it was called. However we'd need to fix the problems with it.

>>1665880
What time does OP start? Since he leaves about 2 EST you know when he starts?

>>1665895
I think he said he was busy today but I could be wrong.

>>1665916
Well he didn't post all day in American time. So once it's morning in America he should be back on. So like in 4 or 5 hours, but I can't be too sure.

>>1665880
Completely forgot about that! Yeah, we need to fix that, it opens op so many new options.

>>1665870
Doesnt matter if they question it. Just say its classified.

Not like they're forthcoming with what's going on with the stone men and stormtroopers.

>>1665917
Yeah, it happened again I wanted to post last night after work but I just knocked out instead.

Good news is I'm rested ow.

>>1665937
True but I would prefer to keep every card of ours hidden we can.

>>1665941
>Good news is I'm rested now.
The question is for how long...

>>1665943
We wouldnt be revealing any cards if we do it right. Just that we have a card. And the ncr knows we have a lot of cards.

>>1665948
True but I can only see this going wrong. Anyhow I doubt we can develop a good body armour, set up production, make enough of it and transport it to where they are on a reasonable time scale.

To be honest we might as well just ask the NCR if they would pay us to send them some reinforcements and improved gear for our troops. Asking for a paltry payment or something that would at least put a dent in the resources invested in reinforcing them.

>>1662667
>>1663714
Unfortunately, the steel from Baker has been used by the Unity in their own projects. It appears Unity has also expanded her town as well. So you only get a paltry steel from the Legion armors.

There is a dust storm going on, and scavenging actions in Trona are unsuccesful.

Meanwhile, Unity approaches you.

>Unity
"I speak for Unity, I am Unity. We have seen the dangers of war with the outside world, and have sought to defend ourselves."

>You
[Can't you convince unity otherwise.]

>Unity
"As your friend and parent of our child, would that I could override the will of unity. But I cannot do this anymore than one aspect of your subconscious psyche could override the will of the conscious mind.

I must also warn you that. . .there is an issue forming. Slowly. One that /I/ have not forseen. My willpower is strong, and so is our childs. This makes us ideal leaders of the hivemind.

But at the same time we cannot defy the will of the hivemind for too long. We can influence it, provide our voice among the voices, sway it in a direction through rationale thought and debate that occurs every milisecond thorughout what you would call a nation. But if any individual ever goes against he hivemind, they risk being cut off. This never happens because the individual mind of most is lacking. But to some, such as myself or Sam, whose minds are strong. . .there is that risk. Even as I am their creator.

Surely you can understand in your terms as well. You are your peoples leader. You control the robots. For now even, you could resist anyone who defies your will. But even you would find it a hollow victory or an ignominious defeat should all and every one of your people defy you.

The Unity clamours for more. The right to reproduce such as I. To live a normal life and be accepted as I have. But most of all to spread the word of Unity to others, especially Marcus and the other Super Mutants. /I/ have not done this, out of respect of our relationship and any inconveniences will bring. But the hivemind is not so patient as I. It is very unlikely they will force my hand anytime soon or be a danger, but unanimous dissent might form if FEV research is delayed and only I get to reap its benefits.

I say this to warn you."

>>1665967
What's unity saying in the first bit? Seems she's just describing herself and what do we want to convince her otherwise?

>>1665972
Not quite getting it either.