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>Onboard the Armored Train
It was a quiet journey headed north. Riddick and Hazel maintaining their weapons, and Axe Man being bored. Around them 3 officers idly chattered, one of them talking to her own brain in a jar.

25 soldiers were there too along with 10 Followers of the Apocalypse are with them, ready to use the best of their new medical knowledge.

100 MK2 Hazard Bots were elsewhere, among flatbed cars.

After a half day of travel through winding railroads and slow going to avoid mines, they arrive at the NCR capital, where a great number of soldiers and equipment are drawn up. From your robots, you get to see them, and they get to see your robots.

A force of about 200 men, a battaltion in all, loading up aboard. In addition you see a few tanks, some jeeps, and some very large and supplies.

The NCR sit next to your own men. Some take off shaking hands and chatting, clearly impressed by the augmented size of your bionic soldiers others avoid speaking with "bloody mercs" and "enclavists". But the peace is kept.

Particularly helpful are the actions of the Stormtroopers. These men seem selected for their height, strength, and intelligence and it shows by the manner of their speech. They act a bit more proud than the NCR Troopers, but are friendly enough.

However there are some oddd NCR individuals among the stormtroopers. Odd because of how different they are from everyone else, yet eerily similar to each other. There seems to be two types of them.

They are either very large and stocky men. Where as your men seem strong because they are fit, these men are just plain wide and tall, as if almost boxed in shape. They take up a whole seat to themselves. It's as though they've been eating a whole brahmin every day for breakfast in one arm, and lifting another in the other. And whats more, they all have the same facial features and similar skin color. They don't talk much, and when they do they don't seem very. . .bright.

There's also a curious pattern among some of the NCR Stormtrooper officers too. Its the same thing, some of them have similar facial features and voice pattern. All of them are officers, and they seem to be the most friendly and charismatic persons of the entire group.

>con't

>>1653951

Just a friendly reminder that we could repair the mothership and hunt down Crypto

>>1653951
Begun the Clone war's have.

>>1653961

Or they could just be hiring retards, or it's genetic engineering, or something

>>1653966
Those are clones or Synths.

They gotta be clones, with what looks like a little of the FEV supermutant added to the big ones.

>>1653967

If clones we better head east and start throwing out some clones back at them. If synths, the same thing.

But for now, let's be sure to prove our worth. And kill godless sub-human legionaries

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>>1653951
After the train is loaded up and on the move again, an NCR officer steps into the room. The soldiers stand at attention.

Curiously the stormtroopers raise their arms with balled fists, while most of the NCR soldiers give the conventional military salute (though some also raise their fist). Interesting.

>Officer
"At ease men. I'm sure many of you are curious as to where the hell we're going. I have here a message from General Blackthorne.

'Soldiers of California. You are about to embark on a mission of urgency, to ensure the success of that which we have strives for many months now. As it was in Portland, that many of you may be familiar with, our brave military, militia, and citizens are desperately but defiantly holding out against an enemy siege in the Flooded City. They fight not only the foe on the battlefield, but the enemies of hunger and need.

In company with our own aligned auxiliary forces, you will bring about the breaking of the siege and the delivery of vital supplies of food, medicine, ammunition, and relief aid to our forces and people.

California is watching us. The President is watching us. We who have been rescued from the jaws of death now will rescue others as we have been.

Good luck, and good hunting.'"

---

"Our enemy will be the Mutant Liberation Forces operating in and around the Idaho Wilds. We can expect heavy abhuman and enemy vehicular forces, along with crude but effective salvaged weapons and technology. In support of our operations, we have auxiliary robotic forces, armored support, and air support on standby.

We will head to the city by train as close as possible, and if we are stopped, we will disembark and push through on trucks and foot if we must. Above all, the supplies must reach the city."

>>1653996

You know what? I take back my thinking on the axis, we're not going to be Italy invading Ethiopia and failing.

We're going to be Russia.

We'll get our half of Poland.

We'll help the allies out for a time.

We'll fuck up the Reich at Stalingrad.

God bless the Phoenix Commonwealth, God bless the reborn America, and may our enemies with away and die.

>>1654001
I have got to start understanding these analogies you present, cause I can't make heads or tail of who the NCR is in them

>>1654001
Our allies, the reich? We don't have many other options.

>>1654001
What the fuck are you rambling on about? If anything we're poland or switerland.

>>1653951
>The NCR sit next to your own men. Some take off shaking hands and chatting, clearly impressed by the augmented size of your bionic soldiers others avoid speaking with "bloody mercs" and "enclavists".
They know we're enclave?

>>1654004
>>1654006
>>1654011

It's simple: the Phoenix Commonwealth is Italy/Russia

The NCR is the Reich

The allies are whoever will be fighting against the NCR in an alliance to make sure they stop the expansion and tribal holocaust.

The Axis being three nations together who will take over the world. But in this case, America

>>1654016
You do realize they could be calling us Enclavists because we're an 'Enclave' in there eyes, Not the ACTUAL enclave?

>>1654016
They erroneously think we are the enclave. Similarities with the enclave are very superficial.

>>1654020
>Italy Russia
>Incompetent Officers and low tech
>Massive conscription that rapes and pillage, with Political officers that kill those that retreat on-top of low tech and shitty officers

A..are you stupid?

>>1654016
It seems more a derogatory than accusatory, since most of your men are not literally enclave descendants.

You remember it was used partly against the people at Hopevile and Ashton for their usage of American symbolism, before the divide blew up.

>>1653996
>"Our enemy will be the Mutant Liberation Forces operating in and around the Idaho Wilds. We can expect heavy abhuman and enemy vehicular forces, along with crude but effective salvaged weapons and technology. In support of our operations, we have auxiliary robotic forces, armored support, and air support on standby.
Huh. So we might be fighting the Mutant GLA. NCR seems like it would be the USA in this instance.

>>1654020
So this is just divying up poland? while we prepare for their inevitable betrayal?

>>1654026

Mark my words, the NCReich is going to betray us. Thus is why I say Russia.

>>1654031

I'm doing so, not sure about you other anons

>>1654035
Maybe. Or we are Finland, and as long as we cooperate, and fight our mutual enemies, we'd be left alone, sovereignity wise.

>>1654039

We need our Simo Häyä then, where ever he may be in the Wastes...or the NCR

>>1654050
So we should recruit Boone?

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>Hazel
"I don't like the look of this railroad. Could be the perfect place for an ambush or a derail."

>NCR Officer
"They won't do it here"

>Hazel
"Why is that."

>NCR Officer
"Because they want our supplies too. And slaves."

---

ALERT!
As promised, the NCR Shipment of:
1 (HUGE) Steel
1 (Small) Fissile Materials
and a shipment of Air Conditioners has arrived.

If they need to extend the contract, they will pay upon the 7th turn of the regular agreed amount of either 1 (HUGE) steel or 1 (Small) fissile material.

Much of the steel has already been used up building the TACT bot and upgrading the Securitrons.

Food is still low because we had to ferry the steel with our own trucks. Which also means hexcrete returns are minimal (we still only have trucks for that as well)

The Pipeline is not yet complete.

!NEW!
>>>>>Food: Low (Slowly Rising) [CAP: Average]
Passive Booze Ration: Low (higher for soldiers)
>>>>>Water: Below Average (Slowly Rising) [CAP: Below]
>>>>>Medicine: Below Average (Stable)
!NEW!
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Metal (Average) Fissile (Above Average)
Scrap Wood (tiny)
Special Electronics (---) Hygiene Supplies (Abundant) Booze (---) [Falling] Alien Tech Scraps (low) Hexcrete Bags (Very Low) Plant Material (Tiny)
Trona Minerals (Low)
>>>>>Fuel: Airplane Fuel (Low) Ethanol (uses Food)
>>>>>Total Pop: 215 Humans (and companions) +55 Infants +40 Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Total Armaments (proportionate to the total pop) Below Average
>>>>>>Weapons: Type (Subtype, Amount, Condition)
-Conventional Melee Weapons
(Legion) - Moderate
-Conventional Firearms
(Legion) - Moderate
(Mercenary) - Moderate
-Energy Firearms
(Human Plasma/Laser) - Below Average
(Alien) - Below Average
(Chinese Alien-Jurry Rigged) - Below Average
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional (Below Average) Energy (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor/Uniforms:
(Salvaged Legion, Moderate, Pristine)
(Legion Centurion. Tiny, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Armor, Moderate, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Uniforms, Moderate, Intact)
(7 Alien Bounty Hunter Armor)
(7 Alien Bounty Hunter Big Rifles)
(35 Dr. Mobius Scrubs + Dr. Mobius Glasses)

>>1654053
>"Because they want our supplies too. And slaves."
>And slaves."
Slaves you say?

>>1654054
This reminds me, did we free our slave yet? He's been with us for a year+ by now I think.

>>1654054
I imagine he means "take us slaves" not "steal our slaves"

But we can liberate the slaves hopefully. I don't think we'd be able to negotiate with the MLA. Marcus would be seen as a super Uncle Tom for not killing all the humans.

>>1654054
>>1654050
>>1654039
Let's finish the pipeline this turn to get that water, which we can use to make more food and hexcrete.

>>1654057
He has his voice back, but still wears the collar, but we'd remove it if asked.

>>1653951
Hey QM, didn't we update all the firmware in the securitrons to Mark V?

>>1654051

Of course we should, we need to save him from being manipulated by the NCReich's government and military

>>1654060

You never know anon

>>1654057
You've yet to "free" him. Officially he is a citizen (as far as citizens go without a public registry building). He still seems set on being your slave though, out of a sense of duty and morality.

>>1654063
Correct thats a typo.

>>1654067
>He still seems set on being your slave though, out of a sense of duty and morality.
Couldn't we free him and turn him into our butler then? He seems to have similar responsibilities.
What did we have our slave do for the most part?

>>1654071
house work for the most part- cleaning, taking care of all the kids, etc.

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The packaged Air Conditioners are quote "very fancy". They come in cardboard boxes with painted pictures and advertising on them, along with instruction manuals and some very blatant advertising for New Reno. The machines themselves are stamped as "Made in California. Sold in New Reno."

James Bond has analyzed them.

"I detect no espionage or spy equipment in them. They are inside and out, merely air conditioners."

Rumors very quickly spread throughout the settlement, and people are clamoring to have them installed!

>CHOOSE
Yes
No

>>1654083
>They are inside and out, merely air conditioners."
>merely air conditioners."
You underestimate the conditioning they go through.

>Yes
Well we got these for a reason.

>>1654083
>Let them get installed in a test house first with our spy kit, See if anything happens.

>>1654083
yes

>>1654087
>>1654091
Switching to this, good idea.

>>1654083
>yes
Maybe the air conditioners don't have spy shit in them.

Maybe Odd Ball just want to show the people that to come to New Reno to gamble and see how life their is "better"

>>1654091
>>1654087
Also we should do a test run, see if they don't blow up due to faulty wiring or some shit like that

>>1654091
fine do this instead of >>1654092
Though I don't know what you expect to happen.

>>1654083
>>1654096
Switching to this choice >>1654091

>>1654097
>>1654096
Quality assurance.

>>1654097
I expect nothing but magic as air is suddenly cooler. I however also expect NCR trickery

>>1654083
If james is satisfied, then sure why not.

>>1654091
Despite the grumbling, you insist on performing lengthy "Quality Assurance" tests.

So far, for a month, nothing happens. It works well. A bit noisy, but exactly the type cool or cold air you would get out of a box from Novac or the Casinos. In the hot heat of the desert, such cold wind is sweeter than molasses.

It will add to your energy bill, significantly but not excessively or outrageously.

---

Securitrons have been withdrawn from outposts, into the expedition.

>OUTPOSTS<
--CHINA RANCH--
++Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 25 Securitrons MKV. +25 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>> Infrastructure: Ruined buildings. Digital Radio Tower.
>>>>> Power: Big Alien Battery
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Animals:

--TRONA---
++Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 25 Securitrons MKV +25 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>> Infrastructure: Ruined buildings. Digital Radio Tower
>>>>> Power: Big Alien Battery
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Animals:

---NEWBERRY SPRINGS---
++BigMT Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 25 Securitrons MK5 +25 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>> Infrastructure: Houses. Lake. Hemp Farm (Small). Banana Yucata (Medium) Spice Farm (tiny)
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. *Nat100* Robot Defenses.
>>>>>Animals:
>>>>>Other: Omni-Agronator!

---THE TWIN MINES (West+South)---
>>>>>Military: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Railroads. Open Pit Quarry.
>>>>>Defenses: Mountain
>>>>>Animals:
>>>>>Other:

>>1654115
>No energy saving mode

SEND IT BACK, THIS IS SUBPAR.

For those interested, this is the WIP to do list that ive been working on, not done obviously.

https://pastebin.com/Q6p6Zymr

>>1654122
It has an on and off button, also a dial turn setting. Normal wasteland etiquette is to turn your air conditioner off when you aren't at home.

Unless you're in Vegas. The Ultra Luxe liked to have little signs that said "feel free to leave on, we'd like you to return to the cool comfort of your room".

People are still hoping for you to install the air conditioners.

>James Bond
"Some of your Newberry Springs denizens are saying if Oddball was still here, he'd find a way to steal it for them."


---THE CRATER---
>>>>>Morale: Above Average (Slowly Falling)
Permanent:
Patriotism (Below Average- Phoenix Commonwealth)
Military Pride (Low)
>>>>>Current Pop:
35 Human
20 Infants
1 Ghoul
>>>>>Garrison:
5 Devils Brigade - Power Armor
19 Couriers Companions - Arcade, Doc Delilah, Cass, Raul, Veronica, ED-E, Rusty, Wendy Gilbert, Hazel, Desmond Harper, Vanessa, Joana, AXE MAN, Milton+Hans, Sonia, Riddick, Dean Domino, Couripor, Mary-Jo Casey
+1 Super Heavy Omni-Constructor
+10 MKV Hazard-Salvager Securitron
+10 Sentry Shield-Juggernaut Minigunners
+33 Securitrons MKV
+60 Small Flyer Repairbots
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
+50 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>>Prisoner: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Higgs Village Warehouse [6 Intact Homes w/{Toilets, Air Condition}, Indoor living area. Raul’s Shack. Follower Hospital. 5 Box Cars. Latrines. Plumbing Water. Heated Water. Indoor Ventilation.) The DOME. The SINK (BigMT Command Center. The THINK TANK). The FORBIDDEN ZONE. . Boom Town Shooting Course Lobotomite Pleasure House (Primitive). Constrution Site (Small). Y-0 Research Center. Scrap Performance Stage. X-2 Transmitter Array. Hemp Farm.
Chinese War Factory
Chemical Mill (Small)
Concrete Military HQ/Barracks + Intelligence Center - James Bond. General Kreger.
Magneto Hydraulics Plant Robotics Facility
Cass' Multipurpose Ethanol/Alcohol Distillery (Tiny)
X-12 Biological Research Plant (Small)
Automated Hexcrete Plant (Small)
Securitron Deconstructino Plant / General Robotics Research Facility (Small)
X-13 Research Factility / Medical VR University (Small)
X-2 Antennae Transmitter Array - Mr. New Vegas. Ms. New Washington
Doppler Radar
>>>>>Defenses: Radar Fence/Mountain Range. Laser Turrets (Few)
Watch Towers. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Riddick’s Charge Co. Dodger. 1 Giant Crane (Ruined) 1 Alien Scoutship (INTACT)
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (HUGE). BigMT Underground Reactors
>>>>>>Other
+The THINK TANK
+Dr. MOBIUS
+Unity
+Julia Farkas
+Arcade Ganon
+30 Researchers (Followers of the Apocalypse)
+45 Assorted Research Robots (normal)
+55 Captured Female Lobotomites
+67 Captured Male Lobotomites.
+20 Construction Bots
+10 VR Life Support Pods (debrained Version)

>>1654134
Can we connect them to Alexis so they can be activeted remotel, or timer based?

>>1654149
You can indeed ration them to conserve power.

>>1654152
i said install them,
also like this anon said >>1654149

---NEW WASHINGTON---
>>>>>Morale: Above Average (Slowly Falling)
Permanent: Patriotism (Below Average- Phoenix Commonwealth)
>>>>>Armaments: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
203 Human
35 Infants
+40 Super Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Garrison:
2 Couriers Companions – Doc Mitchel, Doc Doc Orderly MD PHD DDS
+15 Mr. Orderly Robots
11 Trained Regular Officers [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans} {Augmented!}
88 Trained Regular Infantry [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}{Augmented!}
40 Child Soldiers “Freeside Rats” (Various)
+20 Super Mutants
+20 NightKin
+125 Securitrons MKV
+125 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>>Prisoner: None
1 Presidental Manor
100 Hexcrete Hex Houses (Indoor plumbing/Shower, electricity)
Asphault Roads. Sewer System. Night Lamps.
Desert Landscaping
Spring Well. Clean Water Tank (Intact)
Banana Yucca Farm (Large)
Cotton Farm (Medium)
Concrete School House (Tiny)
Glass Mill (Small)
Public Washing Machines.
Water Treatment/Fertilizer Plant
(Small) Bar + Cafeteria + Kitchen
Solar Collector Tower Station (Small)
>>>>>Defenses: Disease Quarantine Measures (Primitive)
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird, 1 Fuel Economic Fuel Semi Truck, 7 Tracked Construction Vehicles (Mining Specialized) Jacob Mile's Mr. Fix-It Frame. 5 Chinese Supply Trucks
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (Adequate) {Shared from The Crater}. Electrical Poles. Solar Collector Tower Station (Small)

>>>>>>Other:
+Marcus
+Keene
+19 Herd Animals (Brahmin/Bighorn)
+9 Baby Brahmin
+30 Mr. Howdy's Farming Robots

1 General Boon
1 Robotics Research Boon

>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 97

>>1654154
You have one unit installed in a test house currently.

And yes, Alexis can set them on timers or ration their power consumption. They can be activated and deactivated remotely.

>>1654158
>Hero.
Wake up a new guy from the alien cryopods.
>Civ.
Install the air conditioners.
>Construction.
Finish building the pipeline.

>>1654158
Construction: Finish the Pipeline

Rolled 55 (1d100)

>>1654158
>hero
wake up a new cryo pod guy
>civ
Install all the ACs, with Alexis support.
>construct
finish the pipeline
>research
look into the alien bounty hunter armour

>>1654178
Supporting.

Rolled 3 (1d100)

>>1654158
backing this >>1654178

Add
>Military training with super bodies still, And also keep us up to date on the war effort

Rolled 58 (1d100)

>>1654178
Supporting
>maybe for a free action we have the people send info of the places they know, to expend our idea of the world.

Reposting the 3 year plan.


3 Year plan.

>Finish the railway.
>Build supermutant homes.
>Build FEV lab.
>Tap into the underground river.
>Set up a communications satellite.
>Build more robots.
>Research alien shields.
>Research alien med gel.
>Research better PA and guns.
>get more Pop.
>Build that hospital.
>Research the alien hangar.
>research the alien scout ship's power source and weapons.
>Get that Vending machine upgrade that makes it so we don't need fissile materials.
>Build a aircraft factory so we can build flying saucers.

After 3 year plan

>Make some gravel roads to our frontier towns.
>Create Bikes for our Citizens.
>Develop main battle tanks
>produce main battletanks
>develop and produce all the other bits for total warfare- mobile AA, personel Anti-Armour, self propelled artillery
>Clearing the divide to get that sweet loot.

>>1654178
>>1654184
>>1654186
>>1654189
LOCKED

Writing

>>1654190
Adding the glass and textile factories should be on this list.

Along with establishing passive growth of hexacrete and new robots

>>1654222
Not to mention the purchase of as many slaves off of the Legion as possible to grow our nation without risking haemorrhaging our cultural unity or anything.

>>1654222
We already have the glass factory i believe.
>>1654231
Why purchase when you can take with saucer abduction beams?

>>1654240
Because they'll be much more loyal more easily thanks to their trained loyalty. Plus they'll give us a better deal for our spices than the NCR making it fairly cheap to do.

Anyhow, the abduction beam only can take 5 at a time. Where as with a proper set up for moving our new citizens and such we could probably get dozens out and don't risk an incredibly valuable and currently irreplaceable aircraft.

>>1654222
>>1654231
Thoughts on >>1654126
Anything ive missed, or you feel I should add?

>>1654252
I can't see anything missing in particular.

>>1654251
That's why we go for the slave training camps, to liberate the unbroken slaves.

>>1654251
>Because they'll be much more loyal more easily thanks to their trained loyalty.
Actually freed slaves would be much more loyal to us since we freed them.
>Anyhow, the abduction beam only can take 5 at a time. Where as with a proper set up for moving our new citizens and such we could probably get dozens out and don't risk an incredibly valuable and currently irreplaceable aircraft.
Then build more saucers.

>>1654258
Those camps are hundreds of miles away from us and we are uncertain as to where they actually are.


My suggested method works without any sorts of doubts or problems. We could do it immediately where as yours would require we found the camps, got the forces needed to free the slaves and then got them ALL out in one go which we currently could not.

>>1654279
Well it does have problems of participating in a slave trade with a barabaric, murderous society that most of our people don't want anything to do with other than shoot them in the face.

That will be a problem.

>>1654279
>My suggested method works without any sorts of doubts or problems.
Except if the NCR finds out we're trading with the Legion they will brand us barbarians and refuse any diplomatic or trade deals with us.

>>1654273
>Actually freed slaves would be much more loyal to us since we freed them.
Nope. They would be thankful but their loyalty would remain with their people. Their tribe or nation or what have you. I don't disagree that many would join us but we can't say they would be more loyal than the people literally built from the ground up to obey.

>Then build more saucers.
Yeah sure I'll just pop over to our giant replicator and make the parts for a dozen more. You know after I process enough nuclear material and steel into replicator-feed to literally drown our civilisation and grab a complete copy of the required blueprints and such.

>>1654296
Well most of their people would be enslaved and such, so they would have loyalty to a dead society. Simple enough to draw them over to our way, especially if we allow them to keep small reminders of their culture.

>>1654296
>Nope. They would be thankful but their loyalty would remain with their people. Their tribe or nation or what have you.
No they wouldn't, only a very small few would wish to return to their tribe/nation, all the others would be loyal to us. Also it would be a good thing to have ex-tribal slaves since they can help us assimilate their tribe.
>Yeah sure I'll just pop over to our giant replicator and make the parts for a dozen more. You know after I process enough nuclear material and steel into replicator-feed to literally drown our civilisation and grab a complete copy of the required blueprints and such.
All we need is to get that Replicator upgrade that allows us to use energy instead of fissile materials and we'll be golden since all we would need then is metal, and we can get metal from Trona, the Divide and saucer raids against the Legion.

>>1654291
>Well it does have problems of participating in a slave trade with a barabaric, murderous society
In your opinion. I've made my opinion of the Legion clear before.

>that most of our people don't want anything to do with other than shoot them in the face.
I'd point out our people aren't so insanely against the Legion as to not see the benefits of getting slaves from them to free / grow our nation and such. They don't want to help the Legion but that doesn't mean they are going to act so blindly.

Especially since we've done it once already if you hadn't noticed and no one complained or decided to shoot us in the face like you seemingly think they will.


>>1654294
The precise dictations of the deals we made with the NCR state that we can trade with their enemies and house refugees / war criminals from them. Your argument is false.

Especially since they wouldn't be finding out realistically speaking since our nation is so isolationist and shit. Plus we can order the slaves to not talk about where they came from and shit.

Even if they did, why would they complain about us saving people from the Legion? By what logic do they find that unacceptable?

>>1654307
>Well most of their people would be enslaved and such,
Refer to what happened to the NCR's citizens. Chances are they would wander off to go find their tribes.

>so they would have loyalty to a dead society.
Which they could convert their children and others to.

>Simple enough to draw them over to our way, especially if we allow them to keep small reminders of their culture.
True but that doesn't solve the problem of moving potentially hundreds of slaves out across the Legion's lands without any form of support and their armies hounding us. Compared to sneaking a few out at a time.

>>1654115
OP, three questions:
- Is the Digital Radio Tower at China Ranch tied into broadcasts of Mr New Vegas?
- Are the details for Trona correct, as they seem to be a copy of China Ranch?
- Can the military action be used for robot construction?

>>1654311
>No they wouldn't, only a very small few would wish to return to their tribe/nation, all the others would be loyal to us.
They would be thankful to their saviours but I doubt they would be as loyal or willing to join as you seemingly think.

>Also it would be a good thing to have ex-tribal slaves since they can help us assimilate their tribe.
Yes that lovely tribe on the other side of the Legion.

>All we need is to get that Replicator upgrade that allows us to use energy instead of fissile materials
No such upgrade is currently known or possible.

>we'll be golden since all we would need then is metal
Plus pilots, the design / understanding of it's systems and the power to support them.

>we can get metal from Trona, the Divide and saucer raids against the Legion.
The first region doesn't have much metal if any, the second is hostile and I think you are overestimating the Legion's metal supply.

>>1654313
>The precise dictations of the deals we made with the NCR state that we can trade with their enemies and house refugees / war criminals from them. Your argument is false.
Except Mr. smith said to us "Very well. Just be aware, the bear has a 2 good noses and 4 eyes." when we told him we will decide in a case by case basis, they will be paying attention at how we interact with their enemies and us trading with the Legion will sour relations with the NCR, what will make trade and diplomacy with the NCR harder.
>Even if they did, why would they complain about us saving people from the Legion? By what logic do they find that unacceptable?
"You're giving resources to our enemy."

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>>1653951
>didn't get the armor for our men
>didn't augment companions and doctors
>didn't send the tank

>>1654313
In the general opinion of the people

Also the initial people we started with were enslaved with the legion, the rest are refugees from legion aggression. It will be a tough sell to get them on board with trading with the legion.

We didn't promise not to trade with their enemies, but that doesn't mean that the NCR can't react. They can sanction us, and cease all trade and further contact, or even invade if they feel like it.

THe NCR citizen's were re educated or slaughtered. But they had their tribes intact and around. Rescued legion slaves have no wehre else to go. It's not like they can return to their ancestral homelands in Arizona and settle down. Their safest bet is to stay put here. Or they just get enslaved again.

You overestimate the ability for fragmented people to preserve their culture. And if we gather enough of them in our lands, they'd settle and preserve their culture here, like china town.

Your idea has problems too. The only route to the legion close to us is the I-15 front. We aint getting trucks filled with slaves over that boarder. It's a similiar problem no matter how we liberate slaves.

>>1654346
was that the winning vote?

>>1654354
It was thrown around, but we never fully settled on it.

>>1654329
>They would be thankful to their saviours but I doubt they would be as loyal or willing to join as you seemingly think.
And i think you underestimate how thankful to us they would be after being freed, they would be very loyal to the person who saved them from a life of slavery.
>Yes that lovely tribe on the other side of the Legion.
That we can reach with saucers and can supply robots and weapons to.
>No such upgrade is currently known or possible.
Incorrect, it's available if we spend a boon, here it is in thread 12 as an option.
>BOON (Optional - You currently only have 1)
>[ ] Non-Fissile Materials! - If we spend most of our alien parts, we can figure out a way to hook up a disintegrator to this device. Then we no longer have to rely on hard to get radioactive isotopes. We can just expend energy instead and feed it normal metals!

>Plus pilots, the design / understanding of it's systems and the power to support them.
We already know how the alien flight system works, we just need to figure out it's power source.
>The first region doesn't have much metal if any, the second is hostile and I think you are overestimating the Legion's metal supply.
The Legion has metal armor and swords, those are all things we can take, and they must have come from some metal supply.

>>1654354
I don't actually know but I got the feeling that most people agreed to those.

>>1654346
>didn't augment companions and doctors
We should really get on this

Add the Followers too, Intel and luck enhancements could improve our research capacity

>>1654336
>Except Mr. smith said to us "Very well. Just be aware, the bear has a 2 good noses and 4 eyes." when we told him we will decide in a case by case basis, they will be paying attention at how we interact with their enemies and us trading with the Legion will sour relations with the NCR, what will make trade and diplomacy with the NCR harder.
Assuming they find out which they would struggle to do so.

>"You're giving resources to our enemy."
"Which is entirely legal given the deals we made with you."

>>1654348
>Also the initial people we started with were enslaved with the legion, the rest are refugees from legion aggression. It will be a tough sell to get them on board with trading with the legion.
Yet none of them have complained about us getting a slave from the Legion, even though they should be under your assumptions.

>We didn't promise not to trade with their enemies, but that doesn't mean that the NCR can't react. They can sanction us, and cease all trade and further contact, or even invade if they feel like it.
Entirely true but once again I point out, they will not find out.

>But they had their tribes intact and around. Rescued legion slaves have no wehre else to go.
Except they might still have independent tribes to go back to.

>It's not like they can return to their ancestral homelands in Arizona and settle down.
They can with your method since the enslaving camps are all on that side of the Legion.

>Their safest bet is to stay put here. Or they just get enslaved again.
Assuming we can trek them across the Legion without them getting killed, lost or re-enslaved.

>You overestimate the ability for fragmented people to preserve their culture.
I really don't.

>And if we gather enough of them in our lands, they'd settle and preserve their culture here, like china town.
Or they out-breed us and become the dominant culture or have a problem with something we do and cause problems.

>Your idea has problems too. The only route to the legion close to us is the I-15 front. We aint getting trucks filled with slaves over that boarder.
Who said anything about trucks of slaves? We got Dean Domino, his ex-slave companion, one slave of our own and ourselves from New Vegas to Big mt and could certainly repeat that performance.

>It's a similar problem no matter how we liberate slaves.
It really isn't.

>>1654367
>And i think you underestimate how thankful to us they would be after being freed, they would be very loyal to the person who saved them from a life of slavery.
Yes, yes they would. However that doesn't mean they would go and abandon their families or their homelands or anything else potentially.

>That we can reach with saucers
Very slow crafts and could be damaged by ground fire from Legion forces if it came down to it.

>can supply robots and weapons to.
A saucer can carry about 5 humans and a pilot. Not exactly a cargo vessel and certainly not fast enough to maintain a war effort.

>Incorrect, it's available if we spend a boon
Which we have one of.

>here it is in thread 12 as an option.
My mistake, I swear that that one didn't allow such actions but still you need a massive amount of energy.

Also based off of the description, I doubt it allows for the production of alien metal with common metal and such.

>We already know how the alien flight system works, we just need to figure out it's power source.
Amazing but that could take years assuming it can be done and that we can actually produce whatever we discover.

>The Legion has metal armor and swords, those are all things we can take, and they must have come from some metal supply.
I imagine it comes from salvaging buildings or mining and once again I would point out that Saucer's ain't moving large masses without strapping it the outside.

>>1654417
>Which we have one of.
We're going to have another boon once this thread is archive.
So in thread 16 we'll have 2 boon, if we don't use our current boon

>>1654434
Sorry, where is this second boon coming from?

Are we debating whether to trade with the legion?

>>1654417
>Yes, yes they would. However that doesn't mean they would go and abandon their families or their homelands or anything else potentially.
You mean the families and homelands that have been pillaged and destroyed by the Legion?
>Very slow crafts and could be damaged by ground fire from Legion forces if it came down to it.
>Saucers are as fast as a car.
>Can reach very high altitudes if not completely leave the atmosphere.
>Can be equipped with a shield.
The speed is fine for traversing Legion lands and ground fire doesn't matter.
>A saucer can carry about 5 humans and a pilot. Not exactly a cargo vessel and certainly not fast enough to maintain a war effort.
A vertibird can carry 6, and any saucer we make can have an expanded cargo hold so it can carry the same amount.
>Which we have one of.
And we're at thread 15, which will give us a boon once archived. We can also get a boon through other methods.
>Also based off of the description, I doubt it allows for the production of alien metal with common metal and such.
Actually it does, it's how we can make alien metal now.
>Amazing but that could take years assuming it can be done and that we can actually produce whatever we discover.
Researching alien power cells took one turn and we got 3 versions out of it, it won't take years.
>>1654436
Every 5 threads archived gives us a boon.

>>1654436
OP rule is for every 5th thread ARCHIVED give us a boon.

>>1654436
We get some for archiving threads every now and again

>>1654346
The tank didn't get voted in, and there wasn't time to develop a new standard infantry armor.

But all your troops are augmented at least. And the companions have Bounty Hunter armor.

>>1654346
Our men have at least old world American Infantry Armor, and they are augmented.

>>1654447
Hey QM, what did we need to do to get the Think tank sane again? Put their brains in Lobotomite bodies right?

>>1654403
How will they not find out convoys of trucks are going to and from legion lands? Its not something we can keep very secret, especially with no land border.

As for response, we may not promised not to do so, but they can still punish us for going against them. They never promised they would trade with us or anything. They're facists and there is no world police.

Our slave is one slave and we bought him with pocjet change. Its easy enough to believe we smuggled him and dean and deans girl out. Paying for slaves with trucks filles with spices is a different matter.

We have no guarantee that they "would not likely find out" other than your unfounded assurances.

Slaves likely dont have tribes to go back to. Legion just rolls over everybody. Most slaves are slaves because the legion killed their soldiers and subjugated the rest.

They cannot return to their homelands because they are in legion territory. Aruzona is legion territory. As is colorado and new mexico. Any tribes based in The mid west have nothing to go back to.

We can use the saucer to fly them over land. Build new saucers with more cargo space to abduct more.

You really do. Many native cultures are dieing in the face of the larger cultural weight of american culture.

Many tribes have different cultures. There wont be any one dominant culture arising from rescued slaves.

You want to temrade spices for slaves. Trucks to deliver and trucks to return. Convoys are more noticable than a single car.

There will always be a logistic issue taking slaves to our place.

>>1654434
We have 2. Right now. 1 general, one robotics based.

>>1654461
We should have 2 general now, Because this is thread 15 or 16. QM miscounted.

>>1654178
There's just enough hot cryo fluid for one more person.

These are the persons you previously scouted out that have yet to be unfrozen.

CHOOSE:

>A man in a black coat and black hat with old looking sunglasses. He has a black sash and around his neck is a black collar with a piece of white in the middle. He has that black book that Joshua has!

>A man in a pair of blue overalls, with a wide brimmed hat over his head. He has a pair of hedge trimmers and a farming hoe, you see a bag of what you can guess is seeds because its spilling some of them. His hands are gloved.

>An older lady in a white apron with a white hat on her head. She's very well dressed, with a small microphone around her ear. She's holding a spatula and a cook book.

>A very fine dressed man with several pairs of microphones, and some kind of thick headphones around his head. He's holding several holotapes, and has thick black sunglasses.

You also find someone new! Its another, older gentleman, well dressed and holding a conductors baton in hand!

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>>1654458
That seems to be a theory the Brain holds.

>>1654467
>A man in a black coat and black hat with old looking sunglasses. He has a black sash and around his neck is a black collar with a piece of white in the middle. He has that black book that Joshua has!
Culture boost get!

>>1654461
Well that's good to know.
Maybe use one of those boon for the sierra machines, or to learn more alien tech. So we can build flying saucers.

Maybe the robotics based could be use for robotic tank, or maybe improve satellite

>>1654467
>A man in a black coat and black hat with old looking sunglasses. He has a black sash and around his neck is a black collar with a piece of white in the middle. He has that black book that Joshua has!

>>1654467
>A very fine dressed man with several pairs of microphones, and some kind of thick headphones around his head. He's holding several holotapes, and has thick black sunglasses.

>>1654474
>Maybe use one of those boon for the sierra machines, or to learn more alien tech. So we can build flying saucers.
I don't think we need a boon to learn how to build more flying saucers, since we have that broadcast from the researcher we can just research the Alien hangar in the mothership and the alien scout ship regularly.

>>1654486
I think our boons are best saved when shit hits the fan, or we gotten a nat 1

>>1654467

>An older lady in a white apron with a white hat on her head. She's very well dressed, with a small microphone around her ear. She's holding a spatula and a cook book.

>>1654489
I agree, which is why i didn't use our remaining boon for research until we got anther one.

>>1654442
>You mean the families and homelands that have been pillaged and destroyed by the Legion?
You do understand the concept that their tribes might have escaped or that they were captured while hunting or something?

>Saucers are as fast as a car.
Which isn't very fast as it turns out when you are talking about crossing a continent.

>Can reach very high altitudes if not completely leave the atmosphere.
Assuming they have a pilot willing and skilled enough to do so.

>Can be equipped with a shield.
We currently lack that technology.

>The speed is fine for traversing Legion lands and ground fire doesn't matter.
I'd argue it is to slow and would point out that rockets still damage it.

>A vertibird can carry 6, and any saucer we make can have an expanded cargo hold so it can carry the same amount.
Again, assuming we make more reasonably.

>Actually it does, it's how we can make alien metal now.
No, we make it now via use of nuclear material if I remember rightly since we unlocked the ability to make alien metal before we unlocked that upgrade.

>Researching alien power cells took one turn and we got 3 versions out of it, it won't take years.
True but I doubt that learning how they store power with working examples in the form of scavenged alien energy cells will be as easy as figuring out how to produce their reactors which we have seen no examples of let alone functional ones.

>>1654467

>A man in a black coat and black hat with old looking sunglasses. He has a black sash and around his neck is a black collar with a piece of white in the middle. He has that black book that Joshua has!

>>1654467
Head phone guy.

>>1654463
We will have 2 general once this thread is archived. But for now, we have 2 total.

>>1654473
If you want culture the music guy would be better. The religion might not be inline with what we want for the people, but the musician would be more easily tailored.

We could use a cook, since all the ones we had left with oddball

>>1654459
>How will they not find out convoys of trucks are going to and from legion lands?
What is your obsession with trucks? We aren't going to be using such ineffective methods.

>Its not something we can keep very secret, especially with no land border.
Tunnel. We have the designs and can easily build such a thing over time.

Failing that, we do what we did previously and go through the region which experiences Divide storms on occasion, allowing us to avoid detection.

>As for response, we may not promised not to do so, but they can still punish us for going against them.
Aye? And?

>They never promised they would trade with us or anything.
Except seeing how the war is going I doubt they'll deny help if offered it at a good price.

>They're facists and there is no world police.
Well whoop-dee-doo. Stop treating it like they are going to police our every action then.

>Our slave is one slave and we bought him with pocket change.
Not really but sure.

>Its easy enough to believe we smuggled him and dean and deans girl out.
...Because that IS what we did...

>Paying for slaves with trucks filles with spices is a different matter.
At what point did I say trucks full of spices? Never! Stop putting false statements into my arguments.

>We have no guarantee that they "would not likely find out" other than your unfounded assurances.
And we have no guarantee with your methods that the freed slaves would be loyal or we could get them back to our lands safely other than your unfounded assurances.

>Slaves likely dont have tribes to go back to. Legion just rolls over everybody.
Except those tribes we encountered in Honest hearts and there are more like them.

>Most slaves are slaves because the legion killed their soldiers and subjugated the rest.
Then they are either Legion citizens and not slaves or an entire community which ignoring the difficulties of getting to our lands would prove most hard to integrate into our nation.

>They cannot return to their homelands because they are in legion territory. Aruzona is legion territory. As is colorado and new mexico. Any tribes based in The mid west have nothing to go back to.
So they can escape to new lands and live freely or any other number of solutions. Also you assume the Legion doesn't perform raids into land they don't control to get more slaves.

>>1654542
>We can use the saucer to fly them over land. Build new saucers with more cargo space to abduct more.
That will take time and resources we lack.

>You really do. Many native cultures are dieing in the face of the larger cultural weight of american culture.
Might that have something to do with the fact that the native american population could've been decimated and it would have been a light dusting compared to what the american ancestors did?

>Many tribes have different cultures. There wont be any one dominant culture arising from rescued slaves.
Yet you believe the Legion subjugates whole tribes and thus I must conclude these two statements are unaligned. Especially since we don't need a single dominant culture for problems to arise.

>You want to temrade spices for slaves. Trucks to deliver and trucks to return. Convoys are more noticable than a single car.
We can teleport to the Mojave area carrying the spices you fool as the Courier to get the slaves before returning or any other number of more covert methods than fucking cars.

>There will always be a logistic issue taking slaves to our place.
Not if we aren't taking literal hundreds at once. A few dozen over the course of a month would be far easier to do especially with a proper setup.


>>1654467
>An older lady in a white apron with a white hat on her head. She's very well dressed, with a small microphone around her ear. She's holding a spatula and a cook book.

>>1654467
>>A very fine dressed man with several pairs of microphones, and some kind of thick headphones around his head. He's holding several holotapes, and has thick black sunglasses.
Hm, curious.

>>1654504
>You do understand the concept that their tribes might have escaped or that they were captured while hunting or something?
If they escaped how would the slave know where they escaped to and if the tribal was captured while hunting he would have hunted close by so the tribe would have fallen under attack from the Legion soon, unless the tribe is nomadic in which case the slave doesn't know where the tribe is again.
>Which isn't very fast as it turns out when you are talking about crossing a continent.
It's fast enough for traversing a state, and the Legion only occupies Arizona, New Mexico and parts of Utah and Colorado.
>We currently lack that technology.
Which is why it's on the 3 year plan list.
>I'd argue it is to slow and would point out that rockets still damage it.
A car is pretty fast mate, if we go by our IRL car speed record(270 mph) then our fallout saucer should go around 170-200 mph. Arizona has a with of 310 miles and length of 400 miles, so our car can traverse half of Legion territory in about 2-3 hours, that's fast enough.
>Again, assuming we make more reasonably.
We can if we research the alien hangar that can make more saucers and our saucers power source, after that we just have to build our own aircraft hangar and build saucers.
>No, we make it now via use of nuclear material if I remember rightly since we unlocked the ability to make alien metal before we unlocked that upgrade.
We make alien metal with vending machines that use scrap metal and fissle materials.
>True but I doubt that learning how they store power with working examples in the form of scavenged alien energy cells will be as easy as figuring out how to produce their reactors which we have seen no examples of let alone functional ones.
The alien scout ship we have is working, that means it has some power source we can research, the alien mothership's interior is still powered too which means the power source for the mothership might still be working.

>>1654467
Change >>1654516
to cook lady.
I dont want the.priest just yet.

>>1654559
>If they escaped how would the slave know where they escaped to and if the tribal was captured while hunting he would have hunted close by so the tribe would have fallen under attack from the Legion soon, unless the tribe is nomadic in which case the slave doesn't know where the tribe is again.
A smart tribe would have holy sites or other such places they would use as rallying points. As to them being nomadic, some tribes practice cycles of motion between hunting grounds so they would know where to go. Plus you assume their tribe wouldn't arrange places to fall back if they were attacked and shit.

>It's fast enough for traversing a state, and the Legion only occupies Arizona, New Mexico and parts of Utah and Colorado.
Not in universe it doesn't since OP is running with a bunch of mods, they've had three years to expand and a bunch of other things.

>Which is why it's on the 3 year plan list.
I know but my plan could be done right now.

>A car is pretty fast mate, if we go by our IRL car speed record(270 mph) then our fallout saucer should go around 170-200 mph. Arizona has a with of 310 miles and length of 400 miles, so our car can traverse half of Legion territory in about 2-3 hours, that's fast enough.
Except it isn't that fast. Not even close if my memory serves me right.

>We can if we research the alien hangar that can make more saucers and our saucers power source, after that we just have to build our own aircraft hangar and build saucers.
At that point though we can only make copies and thus will be limited to 5 non-pilots per craft.

>We make alien metal with vending machines that use scrap metal and fissile materials.
Correct and thus we need a fuck ton of fissile material to make more of these ships.

>The alien scout ship we have is working, that means it has some power source we can research, the alien mother-ship's interior is still powered too which means the power source for the mother-ship might still be working.
Nope. It is battery powered and recharges from the mother-ship in the Hanger from our electrical grid.

>>1654582
We could improve on the saucers for humans, We could take the saucer we have and increase it's size.

we couldn't limit ourselves in saucers design for smaller aliens.

>>1654596
I agree but the simple fact is that that doesn't achieve the purpose of this slave buying operation anywhere near as cost or time effectively.

>>1654596
We really jsut have to figure out the propulsion and power systems. Then we can build flying machines for a variety of purposes. Large carpet bombers, small anti air fighters and close air support, medium sized transports.

>>1654600
Originaly i thought it would draw the ire of the people and the ncr. Now that he explained it as us literalky teleporting into legion tterritory a lot, its just an inefficient use of our personal time.

>>1654582
>A smart tribe would have holy sites or other such places they would use as rallying points. As to them being nomadic, some tribes practice cycles of motion between hunting grounds so they would know where to go. Plus you assume their tribe wouldn't arrange places to fall back if they were attacked and shit.
And those rallying points would be destroyed as the Legion advances. And i know nomadic tribes practice cycles of motion, but if the Legion invades one of their hunting grounds they will have to migrate somewhere safer.
>Not in universe it doesn't since OP is running with a bunch of mods, they've had three years to expand and a bunch of other things.
True but the mods don't matter much since honest hearts is still canon to QM, so the Legion hadn't completely taken Utah when we were in New Vegas, also the Legion couldn't have expanded much since they don't use vehicles and would have encountered the Midwestern BoS by now.
>Except it isn't that fast. Not even close if my memory serves me right.
It's as fast as riddick's car, and i don't know how fast that car is but i assume around 150-200 mph.
>At that point though we can only make copies and thus will be limited to 5 non-pilots per craft.
If we know how to make saucers we can modify the saucer design and manufacturing so we have more cargo space in each saucer.
>Correct and thus we need a fuck ton of fissile material to make more of these ships.
Which is why getting that Vending machine upgrade that allows us to use energy in place of fissile materials in on the 3 year plan list.
>Nope. It is battery powered and recharges from the mother-ship in the Hanger from our electrical grid.
Wait, then it must be using a large alien power cell, which we can make and charge ourselves. we just need to get more power by making more solar farms.

>>1654602
>We really jsut have to figure out the propulsion and power systems.
We already have figured out the alien flight tech, we just need to learn how to make more saucers.

>>1654609
Rather than what? You understand that we are essentially one of the most useless parts of our civilisation right?


We are too valuable to throw away in combat yet lack the knowledge needed to do certain scientific projects all the while not being capable of massively increasing production or anything.

Literally we are a useless thing and this is a good use of our time.

>>1654630
>Literally we are a useless thing and this is a good use of our time.
We could just change the hero action to a research action then if you think we need to so something useful.

>>1654630
Diplomatic visits, negotiations, policy making. general sovereign leader stuff.

>>1654627
I don't think we do. If we did, we just have to build suitable frames, which can be any shape.

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>>1654178
>>civ
>Install all the ACs, with Alexis support.
Before long the town is filled with the incessant hum of noisy boxes sticking out of peoples homes. But not a single person minds the noise.

Wonderful, cold, chilled air! People are loathed to leave their home, but twice as excited to return to it. Who cares if there's no windows. The newest past time is standing in front of that box of cool irresistable wind, having a nice glass of lukewarm water, and chatting with Alexis.

>Mr. New Vegas
"Howdy Folks. This is Mr. New Vegas, reporting live from New Washington. And with me today is my lovely cohost."

>Ms. New Washington
"Hey there everybody. We have something special lined up for them today don't we?"

>Mr. New Vegas
"You're absolutely right my dear. But first some news. Local residents of New Washington are highly pleased by the newly installed Air Conditioners. One anonymous local says it was 'about damn time'.

And now, here's a brand new song from our very own Dean Domino. Back and bigger than life."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLDHCDz7S2g

>>1654649
>I don't think we do. If we did, we just have to build suitable frames, which can be any shape.
I think we do, here's a bit from Thread 11.
>Your scientists begin to study and probe the Alien Scoutship, learning its secrets through the use of highly advanced BigMT technology. They turn it off and on. Take it apart and put it back together. Do everything in their power to learn of it.
>It seems to use some sort of Inertial Drive that converts a powerful energy source into inertial movement. The ramifications to modern understanding of physics are enormous. If only they could make the vessel whole again.
We know how it flies, so we should be able to make more Inertial drives.

>>1654663
Is that knowing the principles that operate it, or can we actually build one? There's a difference between knowing a nuclear reactor uses the fission of large atoms to generate heat, and another to build one.

If we do know how to build inertial drives we should look at the reactors, then its all a matter of design.

>>1654670
>Take it apart and put it back together.
I assume so, if not researching the alien hangar bay should tell us how to make more inertia drives since we would see how it builds them.

>>1654622
>And those rallying points would be destroyed as the Legion advances. And i know nomadic tribes practice cycles of motion, but if the Legion invades one of their hunting grounds they will have to migrate somewhere safer.
True but my point is they could find their tribes.

>True but the mods don't matter much since honest hearts is still canon to QM, so the Legion hadn't completely taken Utah when we were in New Vegas, also the Legion couldn't have expanded much since they don't use vehicles and would have encountered the Midwestern BoS by now.
Possible but perhaps something happened to the Midwestern BOS and as to Utah, my point was that tribes escape the legion and that the Mod's / OP's posts imply the Legion has far more land than that..

>It's as fast as riddick's car, and i don't know how fast that car is but i assume around 150-200 mph.
I don't think it was that fast from what little we have on it.

>If we know how to make saucers we can modify the saucer design and manufacturing so we have more cargo space in each saucer.
True.

>Which is why getting that Vending machine upgrade that allows us to use energy in place of fissile materials in on the 3 year plan list.
True but I am uncertain as to the capabilities of that upgrade.

>Wait, then it must be using a large alien power cell, which we can make and charge ourselves. we just need to get more power by making more solar farms.
That is a huge amount of resources for your operation you are spending.

>>1654645
Except we would run out of things to research quite quickly.

>>1654649
>Diplomatic visits
Only possible with the NCR and the Shi.

>negotiations
Free action assuming you mean trade and shit.

>policy making
Free action depending on the law.

>>1654675
Except all that would instruct us is the construction of replica drives. We'd only be able to make one model of engine for every craft.

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>>1654178
>>research
>look into the alien bounty hunter armour
The Alien Bounty Armor has some impressive capabilities! But we only have enough parts to reliable reverse engineer a key aspect of them.

Which should we go with?

>Advanced Motor Servos - There are some very interesting, almost exoskeleton like motor servo's that allow the armor to hold extra weight. This could allow our own armor designs to be heavier, and maybe put us on the path to true powered armor!
>Advanced Protection Suite - There are some advanced anti-biohazard protection devices at play that help to neutralize caustic, infectious, and even flammable materials, even filter poisoned gas from the air.
>Advanced Radiation Suite - There's a very powerful anti-radiation module, that greatly increases radiation resistance and slowly removes radiation from the body.
>Advanced Telsa Accessories - There are some powerful Tesla Coil accesorries that improve the damage of energy weapons greatly, and also reduce the damage from energy weapons
>Advanced Recoil Reducers - There are some powerful recoil reducers, that make conventional weapons more accurate and allow for much bigger guns, and also reduce the damage from conventional weapons

We'll only be able to do this once. Choose well!

>>1654725
There are always more things to research. You can't finish leanring.

Doesn't matter who we meet, it's still a better use of our time.

Negotiations, visits, summits, and celebrations- all the types of things that might mean we have to go to an allied country to make an appearance. Cost of doing business.

Depending on the law, but some implementations of policy would take a hero action to smooth over civilian response. Still something to spend hero actions on.

>>1654690
>True but my point is they could find their tribes.
It would be a long journey to do so.
>Possible but perhaps something happened to the Midwestern BOS and as to Utah, my point was that tribes escape the legion and that the Mod's / OP's posts imply the Legion has far more land than that..
Can you post the mods so anons know the exact size of the Legion?
>I don't think it was that fast from what little we have on it.
well 1st, it's a fallout car so it should be better than ours in certain things and 2nd, it's riddick's car, he probably modified it for great speed.
>True but I am uncertain as to the capabilities of that upgrade.
It says the capabilities right here >>1654367
>That is a huge amount of resources for your operation you are spending.
When we fixed up and recharged the alien ship i believe our power consumption was around 80%, that means recharging the ship takes more than 20 % power, now when we built the small solar tower we were at 90% and went down to 75%, that means the small solar tower provides 15% power, assuming the saucer needs 50% power to recharge we will need 3 small solar towers to comfortably recharge a saucer, luckily we have a great spot we can get glass and salt water from called Trona.
I think building 3 small solar towers is worth it in exchange for having a airforce of saucers. with saucers we can raid the Legion for slaves and resources plus get to other locations we can get resources from like upper Nevada and Idaho.
>>1654725
>Except all that would instruct us is the construction of replica drives. We'd only be able to make one model of engine for every craft.
And when we understand how to make replica drives we can begin modifying the design to fit our needs.

>>1654742
>There are always more things to research. You can't finish leanring.
You kinda can in terms of what you can do with your resources and shit. Not to mention the limits of your research teams and such.

>Doesn't matter who we meet, it's still a better use of our time.
True but we can't spend literally every turn in another nation kissing babies and shaking hands.

>Negotiations, visits, summits, and celebrations- all the types of things that might mean we have to go to an allied country to make an appearance. Cost of doing business.
Except we don't need to and for the most part those things are useless in the case of the fascist NCR and pointless in the Autocratic / imperial Shi.

>Depending on the law, but some implementations of policy would take a hero action to smooth over civilian response. Still something to spend hero actions on.
True but why would we be implementing that many unpopular laws and such that it is a dedicated thing?

>>1654725
>Except we would run out of things to research quite quickly.
>implying that's not a great thing.

>>1654732
>Advanced Motor Servos - There are some very interesting, almost exoskeleton like motor servo's that allow the armor to hold extra weight. This could allow our own armor designs to be heavier, and maybe put us on the path to true powered armor!

>>1654732
>Advanced Protection Suite - There are some advanced anti-biohazard protection devices at play that help to neutralize caustic, infectious, and even flammable materials, even filter poisoned gas from the air.

>>1654749
>I think building 3 small solar towers is worth it in exchange for having a airforce of saucers

Just know that the solar towers use water to make power, so we have to keep up with the water supply as we go along. We're getting the pipeline, but we also can tap into the water underground.

>>1654732
>Advanced Motor Servos - There are some very interesting, almost exoskeleton like motor servo's that allow the armor to hold extra weight. This could allow our own armor designs to be heavier, and maybe put us on the path to true powered armor!

>>1654732
>Advanced Motor Servos - There are some very interesting, almost exoskeleton like motor servo's that allow the armor to hold extra weight. This could allow our own armor designs to be heavier, and maybe put us on the path to true powered armor!
Can we only do this once cause we sent the other Alien bounty armor onboard the NCR train? Can't we do this again when they come back?

>>1654761
Trona has a salt water lake.

>>1654764
Even that wouldn't be enough.

>>1654764
We sent 3 and kept 4. I think that its just one of those things so we don't advance too many tech tiers by squeezing this bounty dry. Same as the guns.

>>1654770
>>1654772
Oh.
Well at least we still have enclave power armor we can research.

>>1654769
>Trona has a salt water lake.
Good to know, we can some power towers in Trona, or build a filter plant to get us more fresh water. and we can use the salt for our meats, and for our food.

>>1654776
Qm also mentioned the possibillity of finding enclave power armor info in Navaro

>>1654749
>It would be a long journey to do so.
True but people have made long journeys for lesser reasons.

>Can you post the mods so anons know the exact size of the Legion?
The frontier and possibly a thing I linked him to but that wouldn't be effecting things too seriously. Except for the fact the Legion would have a presence in Texas at least.

>well 1st, it's a fallout car so it should be better than ours in certain things
Not really.

>2nd, it's riddick's car, he probably modified it for great speed.
Quite possibly but we can't state for certain. Especially since he is running it with our shitty fuel on a world with shitty spare parts until he met us.

>It says the capabilities right here
Yes and what I am saying is that I am uncertain if that will allow for the creation of alien metal since it is not made of any earth-elements as far as we could tell.

>When we fixed up and recharged the alien ship i believe our power consumption was around 80%, that means recharging the ship takes more than 20 % power, now when we built the small solar tower we were at 90% and went down to 75%, that means the small solar tower provides 15% power, assuming the saucer needs 50% power to recharge we will need 3 small solar towers to comfortably recharge a saucer, luckily we have a great spot we can get glass and salt water from called Trona.
Not accounting for future energy increases: Alexa, the air-conditioners and so on.

>I think building 3 small solar towers is worth it in exchange for having a airforce of saucers. with saucers we can raid the Legion for slaves and resources plus get to other locations we can get resources from like upper Nevada and Idaho.
Not having an air-force. 1 saucer is all that powers without fucking the electrical grid by your calculations.

>And when we understand how to make replica drives we can begin modifying the design to fit our needs.
That is like saying because I know precisely how to build a replica of a nuclear reactor, I can design a brand new one entirely different from the one I know. It is madness unless you intend for our scientists to spend years establishing the inter-relations between every part of this technology and working out the limits and physics behind it.

>>1654751
Never said it wasn't. It would mean however we would go back to doing the Hero action again.

>>1654779
Trona having salt water, a glass mine and tons of metal should really be common knowledge.

>>1654753
>>1654761
>>1654764
>Advanced Motor Servos
LOCKED

This will help you in your next armor research action!

>>1654782
>The frontier and possibly a thing I linked him to but that wouldn't be effecting things too seriously. Except for the fact the Legion would have a presence in Texas at least.
Didn't the NCR win the frontier? The General who was banished to the frontier is now the current General of the NCR.
>Never said it wasn't. It would mean however we would go back to doing the Hero action again.
Eventually yea but we have lot's to research so it will be a while.
>Quite possibly but we can't state for certain. Especially since he is running it with our shitty fuel on a world with shitty spare parts until he met us.
He has 10 int, even with shitty parts he should be able to make a relatively fast car.
>Yes and what I am saying is that I am uncertain if that will allow for the creation of alien metal since it is not made of any earth-elements as far as we could tell.
We can make alien metal with our replicators, I've told you this already!
>Not accounting for future energy increases: Alexa, the air-conditioners and so on.
Alexa and the air conditioners doesn't seem to have increased the power consumption much, i assume we're at 90% again so we should build solar towers again.
>Not having an air-force. 1 saucer is all that powers without fucking the electrical grid by your calculations.
Read my calculations again, if a saucer takes about 50% power to recharge 3 solar towers is enough to recharge one each day.
>That is like saying because I know precisely how to build a replica of a nuclear reactor, I can design a brand new one entirely different from the one I know. It is madness unless you intend for our scientists to spend years establishing the inter-relations between every part of this technology and working out the limits and physics behind it.
Dude.
Dude do you not know how modifying something works?

>>1654821
>Alexis
"If every air conditioner were to run at full blast day and night, it would put our Electrical Grid at 83%. We are at about 78% right now."

>>1654821
Here a idea to increase morale with the people.

We could have the Chinese and our best cooks, make some great food, and drink.

Scan it with the sierra machine, that way our people can have access to fine food.

>>1654830
Oh, that's good.

Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>1654732
>Advanced Motor Servos - There are some very interesting, almost exoskeleton like motor servo's that allow the armor to hold extra weight. This could allow our own armor designs to be heavier, and maybe put us on the path to true powered armor!

>Advanced Telsa Accessories - There are some powerful Tesla Coil accesorries that improve the damage of energy weapons greatly, and also reduce the damage from energy weapons

>>1654831
We have shit cooks all of our good ones left with oddball, thats why i was hoping we could unfreeze the cook instead of the priest.

>>1654839
I think we have more votes for the cook.

The Chinese have there own cooks, so half of the plan could work. If we didn't dethaw the cook this year.

>>1654839
Well I imagine we have skilled chinese cooks. But they would be traditional chineses food.

And I'm sure we know how to cook excellent shit. We can scan our food. Just need to take a hero action.

>>1654821
>Didn't the NCR win the frontier? The General who was banished to the frontier is now the current General of the NCR.
True but the Legion has land that far north and according to the NCR's war report they seemingly have land in Canada if I remember it right.

>Eventually yea but we have lot's to research so it will be a while.
Not really seeing as we can't research the alien bounty hunter tech further and most of the other things will be completed quickly. Trust me it just seems like we have more than we do.

>He has 10 int, even with shitty parts he should be able to make a relatively fast car.
That just means he can be creative / use more advanced methods to fix it. It doesn't mean he can make miracles happen.

>We can make alien metal with our replicators, I've told you this already!
AYE and I have told you we do it using nuclear material and that it is not made of any earth elements and thus I doubt that by feeding the replicators earth elements we can make more of it.

>Alexa and the air conditioners doesn't seem to have increased the power consumption much, i assume we're at 90% again so we should build solar towers again.
Which is a entire turn's labour at least.

>Read my calculations again, if a saucer takes about 50% power to recharge 3 solar towers is enough to recharge one each day.
True but we have no idea how fast the battery on them will drain so we can't say that will be enough.

>Dude do you not know how modifying something works?
Yes. However I doubt it is easy to alter highly advanced alien technology working off of principles that may not even exist in the contemporary model of physics of fallout.


Look we are getting very off topic. My point is my plan works and doesn't require shit that we plan on having 3 years from now.

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Jacob Miles finishes up the pumping station at Newberry Springs, connecting it to the Water Treatment Plant

To no short amount of fanfare, crowds line up to the Water Treatment plant, ready to see fresh water from Newberry pour into its reservoir tanks.

A switch is manned and pulled by some humans far in newberry springs, and everyone eagerly watches a clock, Jacob Miles predicting the exact time it is to arrive.

There's a whoosh of dust and air, and at last, a rush of brown muddy water is soon trailed by flowing white foamy liquid as everyone cheers the new water in the largest settlement.

Those living at Newberry Springs might be dissapointed to no longer have the lake to swim in, but you're keeping enough water to keep the farms there going.

>Miles
"Now all we need to do is tap into that underground river."

>>1654860
Hey miles, How deep do you expect it to be and how many pumps are needed to get it up here?

>>1654857
>Not really seeing as we can't research the alien bounty hunter tech further and most of the other things will be completed quickly. Trust me it just seems like we have more than we do.
We haven't researched how to make more enclave power armor, ED-Es blue laser which is similar to the alien laser, the alien robots design, alien shields, alien MED-GEL, how to make more vertibirds, and any other stuff I'm forgetting.
>>1654860
>Those living at Newberry Springs might be dissapointed to no longer have the lake to swim in, but you're keeping enough water to keep the farms there going.
That sucks, hopefully tapping that underground river gives us enough water that we can have that lake again.

>>1654857
>AYE and I have told you we do it using nuclear material and that it is not made of any earth elements and thus I doubt that by feeding the replicators earth elements we can make more of it.
For God's sake how do you not understand this? We can make alien metal you have just admitted to this, If we get the replicator upgrade we can make alien metal using scrap metal and energy instead of fissile materials, ergo, soon all we'll need to make alien metal is regular earth metal and energy.
>Which is a entire turn's labour at least.
so 3 turns for 3 small solar towers, easily affordable.
>True but we have no idea how fast the battery on them will drain so we can't say that will be enough.
The weapons is what mostly drains the power, so it depends on how often we use them.
>Look we are getting very off topic. My point is my plan works and doesn't require shit that we plan on having 3 years from now.
From what I'm seeing other anons don't like your plan either.

>>1654869
>Jacob
"The good news is the pipeline already runs over it, we'd just need to build a specialized extraction pump facility.

However, it may be radioactive depending on the source. We'd also need a radiation purifier if that were the case."

>Arcade
"Should be within our reaches. Even the NCR has managed to reverse engineer some of that Vault Tec for filtering small amounts of water.

>Jacob Miles
"Sounds about right. its not like we're trying the filter out the Potomac River"

>You
[The what?]

>Vanessa
"It's a big river in the east coast that runs through the capital wasteland"

>Jacob
"'Capital Wasteland'. Is that what they call it now?"

>Vanessa
"Yeah. The Potomac? Really super irradiated. I think the Commonwealth's Capital got hit the worst by China. Heard there were some amateur scientists trying to filter it all but they been trying for 30 years with no luck. Kudos to them, it's so bad only the super mutants there can drink it."

>>1654886
Rest in Piece Liam Neeson

>>1654889
Image we fly over to the Capital all "I have the technology to cleanse your water"

Rolled 18 (1d100)

Alright, strap in guys it's time for QUEST MODE for your army.

Can Somone roll me a 1d100?

Rolled 74 (1d100)

>>1654900

Rolled 98 (1d100)

>>1654900
F

Rolled 22 (1d100)

>>1654900
Rolling for reasons

Rolled 4 (1d100)

>>1654905

Rolled 58 (1d100)

>>1654905

Rolled 4 (1d100)

>>1654905
When do we stop

I think QM rolls are for the Legion and NCR
Our roll was for our army

But I could be wrong

>>1654915
In quest mode, its first come first serve. But who knows, maybe you'll crit.

>>1654926
>Legion
Meant the Mutant Army

>>1654928
Well fuck Now I'm sad my 98 didn' go through.

>>1654928
>>1654935
At least we got the 74.

>>1654935
Well mate it's alright, If i didn't have rolled maybe that 98 you rolled could have turned into a nat 1 or a low number. That how the dice work. But 74 not bad for us.

>>1654871
>We haven't researched how to make more enclave power armor, ED-Es blue laser which is similar to the alien laser, the alien robots design, alien shields, alien MED-GEL, how to make more vertibirds, and any other stuff I'm forgetting.
True but I think one or two of those can't be done / are pointless.

>>1654880
>For God's sake how do you not understand this? We can make alien metal you have just admitted to this, If we get the replicator upgrade we can make alien metal using scrap metal and energy instead of fissile materials, ergo, soon all we'll need to make alien metal is regular earth metal and energy.
The amount of energy that would be needed to replicate the point of the nuclear fissile / fusion material is so insane that I can't imagine it on anything above the smallest scale.

Point is however if OP says we can take that upgrade and turn dirt and energy into alien metal I'll stop complaining.

>so 3 turns for 3 small solar towers, easily affordable.
At least. I swear it took longer to build one but I think the reasons weren't the actual construction.

>The weapons is what mostly drains the power, so it depends on how often we use them.
True but still my point stands we need to test it's range.

>From what I'm seeing other anons don't like your plan either.
Only you and one other anon which considering the number of people playing this quest is 14, not really. Most haven't gave their opinion and I know from past discussion at least one or two were in favour.

>>1654939
especially when the first qm roll was 18, and the second was 22. We did massively better.

>>1654943
>True but I think one or two of those can't be done / are pointless.
My point is, we have lot's of worthwhile stuff we can use the Hero action for.
>The amount of energy that would be needed to replicate the point of the nuclear fissile / fusion material is so insane that I can't imagine it on anything above the smallest scale.
We don't even know how much energy it takes until we get the upgrade and QM tell us.
>At least. I swear it took longer to build one but I think the reasons weren't the actual construction.
Is it the transportation of the materials we used to make the solar tower?
>True but still my point stands we need to test it's range.
True.

>>1654944

That we did anon. That we did.

So question, is one thing we're gonna do in the east hope the Lone Wanderer is a grill for dickplomacy?

>>1654962
>My point is, we have lot's of worthwhile stuff we can use the Hero action for.
And my point is I can get us a larger population without risking loyalties and without consuming valuable resources like metal or fuel.

>We don't even know how much energy it takes until we get the upgrade and QM tell us.
E = M(C*C)

To make a mole of carbon into a mole of iron would be a very expensive operation thanks to the difference in energetic content caused by the difference in mass. Unless you use nuclear material to add the needed mass.

>Is it the transportation of the materials we used to make the solar tower?
Can't remember and can't be bothered to check at 2 AM. I am going to get food.

>>1654970
We took confirmed Bachelor. Can't let it go to waste.

>>1654973
That is the plan for dealing with the Capital wasteland brotherhood.

>>1654971
>And my point is I can get us a larger population without risking loyalties without consuming valuable resources like metal or fuel.
Actually it would consume metal and fuel since we would need trucks to carry those slaves to New Washington.
And my plan allows us to expand to other places using saucers and to get needed resources by taking them from the Legion.

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Winding around nuclear craters and deadly regions, headed first north then east, the train finally makes it into Idaho territory.

In that time your troops have gotten to know each other. Songs were shared, including the Stormtroopers namesake.

"Far from their land as they made their stand
A disregarded demand!
It's surrender or die and the stakes are high
They live or they die, there's no time for goodbye!
Weapon in hand as they made their stand
Still disregarding demand,
They would never comply, they would rather die!
Broke through the blockade, they were finally saved!"

Gossip and talk flow freely, providing you with much information on the NCR homeland and morale. Both of your men want to test their strength against the other, having shattered a few tables they now arm wrestle over metal crates. The average soldier is no match for your own, though their stormtroopers put up a better fight. But even your men's arms bend the otherway when going up against one of their hulking bruisers. "Stone Men" they call them, though nobody knows why.

"Probably because they're tough as a rock and just as intelligent!"

But nobody beats Riddick. With deft ease, he turns the arms of your men sore and puts to table the NCR's big hulkers.

---

Meanwhile, Hazel is up on the rooftop, sniper rifle in hand and binoculars. She might be a drunk off duty, but she's a professional when on.

She's the first one to spot dots on the horizon.

>Hazel
"Contact! Left side. 18 vehicles. 15 kilometers"

The alarm blares, and the intercom chirps up.

"All men, man your stations. This is not a drill."

---

Men are scrambling to windows, turrets, and vehicles when the train lurches.

>Intercom
"Brace for impact!"

People are thrown to their feet, and rifles spill, and even Hazel clings onto a railing for dear life.

>Intercom
"The Forward Element Train just got blown up by a mean. Engineering teams scramble."

The NCR soldiers are preparing to defend the train and the engineering crew as they repair the rails. Enemy vehicles are still far away but closing in.

>What are your orders?

>>1654990
Again what is your obsession with trucks? We have securitrons if we need to transport people quickly.

>And my plan allows us to expand to other places using saucers and to get needed resources by taking them from the Legion.
True but I have very different plans for expansion. Primarily requiring we can contact the Shi and a few other things.

>>1654996
Trucks are far more efficient than securitrons.

>>1654994
Securitron missle barrage. Take the trucks out before they get into rifle range.

>>1654996
>Again what is your obsession with trucks? We have securitrons if we need to transport people quickly.
Then we need to make more Securitrons to transport people, one person for each Securitron, inefficient and still consumes resources. And my obsession with trucks is because they are a great cheap method of transportation.

>>1655005
See.

>>1654994
Layed artillery barrage as we cover for everybody to get out of the trains and take up positioning. Proection of the cargo while any scout bots we have fly high up to locate where the heavy armarment is and then pound that into submission

>>1655005
Let me clarify.

Trucks are faster and can carry more than securitrons over long distances.

Securitrons are superior caravan guards for foot groups and brahmin wagons. But even then, its better to have brahmin wagons than no brahmin wagons.

>Brain
"I suppose it is possible to have Securitron Wagons. That would be a feasible low fuel intensive form of transport."

>>1655006
1 for this
>>1655016
1 for this

>>1655005
>>1655007
True but going out of our way to make trucks to transport ex-slaves over rough terrain rather than making use of the existing Securitrons which we will be making more of for military purposes is illogical.

If you want a mass transit method fair enough I admit that the Securitrons aren't ideal but seeing as I don't plan on taking back more than a dozen or two at any given time it won't be a problem.

>>1655006
Backing this.

>>1655016
Ill support this

>>1655028
mines just a more indepth version of that guys, Sense we'd be firing the missiles at the trucks and shit in layed slavo's.

>>1655016
Supporting

>>1655016
Supporting.

Rolled 93 + 15 (1d100 + 15)

>>1655016
>>1655044
>>1655049
Roll me a 1d100!

Rolled 10 (1d100)

>>1655057
qm rolls a 93...

Rolled 36 (1d100)

>>1655057

Rolled 15 (1d100)

>>1655057
>>1655059
Shit.

Rolled 80 (1d100)

>>1655057
ded

Rolled 71 (1d100)

>>1655006

Supporting

>>1654973
>>1654981

What have I done? Still, who knows? The LW could either be like a rule 63 version of the Courier, or like the Courier's long lost brother.

>>1655057

Oh Jaysus Christu

>>1655061

Roll against this?

>>1655063
>>1655065

Sorry main

Rolled 44 (1d100)

>>1655057
I think this is for the NCR. +15 seems like a very big advantage for the Mutants for no real reason.

>>1655068

You never know, if it's NCR they're gonna be mocking us. If mutants they're gonna be filling the NCR troops and our securitrons full of holes/insertattackchoicehere

>>1655101
Well we have 7 turns. Lets just say we've never had to defend a moving train while on the train.

>>1655116

Agreed, not like they had to defend against aliens

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>>1655016
Your Hazard bots get out and surround the train, their heavy armor encircling it like a ring as the NCR's soldiers scramble to their guns and engineers rush trucks to the front to clear up the tracks.

>Hazel
"New contacts

20 vehicles right side. . .

15 vehicles front side. . .

13 vehicles rear side. . ."

>NCR Trooper
"Caesar on a pole they're everywhere!"

Your repair fliers go up. Unfortunately, they are dedicated repair and salvage robots not scouting and recon so their optical arrays are unsophisticated.

But the worst is yet to come.

>NCR Officer
"All guns open fire!"

>TACT Bot
"Fire at will!"

The train erupts with volleys of artillery and rocket fire from men and machine. Men on 88mm cannons, turret howitzers and mortars open up barrages on all sides, likewise your own robots fire off furious small but numerous missile salvos.

At almost a mile away, a few of the fast vehicles are blown up but the rest scramble, swerve, and make off in different directions. They no longer are headed directly for the train, but start to move around widly, circling it from afar, and running through and dodging shells and rockets.

Meanwhile, they start dropping barrels and pouring some sort of black tar behind them. The moment one of your own rockets are an NCR artillery shell lands on them it lights it on fire creating a long stream of thick billowing black smoke, which the buggies also begin exuding into the air from pipes.

There's so many of these small fast vehicles, moving hither and thither, and at this range its hard to get a beat on them. Even Hazel and Riddick only manage to pelt a couple of shots on them at such distances.

The smoke begins to encircle the train now, driven by the wind, further reducing vision. Heat sensors and infrared on the Rangers are being dismayed by the fire and flames.

Slowly the circle of smoke closes in along with the buzzing buzzing buzzing of vehicles. Yet strangley they have yet to open fire.

Now the smoke almost engulfs the train, there's barely any visibility. The buzzing of the vehicles dies away, as if they are gone.

It is replaced by a new noise. Drums. Deep, rythmic, thunderous drums, seemingly coming from all sides through the smoke and the flames.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpIhbDN58mA

>What do

>>1655125
Luckily, our Securitrons have near infinite ammo due to their internal replicators.
Disregard visibility, listen closely at the sounds to locate them and fire missile volleys and lasers widely at the source of the sounds, by shooting at the area instead of the target we have a higher chance to hit.

>>1655125
Focus our barrage into two particular areas and form walls of projectiles. Then have these approach each other. They'll be trapped between them and their wall of fire.

Also begin firing any other guns we have if we have even a decent chance of hitting.

>>1655125
We gave the soldiers fancy eye's didn't we? have that data relayed to the tact bot, which relays that to the securitrons for targetting. Failing that, securitrons just suppressing fire all around with rockets and laser beams.

>>1655125
Hey QM, do our Securitrons have a self destruct function? If not, can they charge with their missile pods open and just fire all missiles at once?

>>1655167
>Hey QM, do our Securitrons have a self destruct function?
Not these models

>can they charge with their missile pods open and just fire all missiles at once?
Yes, at close ranges

>>1655172
>can they charge with their missile pods open and just fire all missiles at once?
>Yes, at close ranges
Will the blast radius be relatively big?

>>1655174
It wouldn't be so much a blast as a very concentrated barrage on a smaller area.

>>1655180
Well there goes that plan.

>>1655155
1 for this
>>1655160
1 for this
>>1655165
1 for this

>>1655165
ill support this

>>1655165
Supporting this

>>1655165

Supportan

Rolled 58 + 10 (1d100 + 10)

>>1655165
LOCKED

Roll me a 1d100

Rolled 77 (1d100)

>>1655236

Rolled 65 (1d100)

>>1655236

Rolled 23 (1d100)

>>1655248
Need another roll?

Rolled 76 (1d100)

>>1655248

>>1655238
>>1655236
>>1655248
Writing

>>1655260
So do we want the first, or second rolls to be high?

>>1655297
I have a theory. First is Enemies since they won last round so they get the +10
2nd roll I one I rolled is our men.
Last I think NCR.

>>1655297
hmmm

If I tell you which rolls are which order, it might create undue expectations. These rolls definitely factor, but aren't the end all. troop composition, terrain, and other things can swing even a bad roll in someone's favor or mitigate results.
At the same time it can also help to explain results based on random chance

Which would you prefer

>>1655308
Well, i'd prefer to know.
Just because we know the roll order doesn't mean we would ignore situational bonuses, especially for close rolls. But if there is a massive difference in rolls, its obvious someone won, and it would be nice to know before hand.

>>1655330
>But if there is a massive difference in rolls, its obvious someone won
Usually. Other times its more "we did great despite the circumstances being overwhelming". its situational
Crits are crits though.

>>1655371
OP is kill