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War, War never changes.

Thread 1
>>1426411
Thread 2
>>1438425
Thread 3
>>1451933
Thread 4
>>1469110
Thread 5
>>1478346
Thread 6
>>1494051
Thread 7
>>1511713

You are the Courier. Day by day, month by month, you are building your new nation within the confines of BigMT. Challenges are faced, goals are worked towards, and threats and allies made, as you continue to strive to build a renewed America in the blasted wasteland. Life inside BigMT is peaceful, though it is at times cramped and dull, the people have what they need to survive, but have yet to thrive. Meanwhile, you pursue several building projects and research towards technologies and constructions that you hope to propel your people and machines into the national power you aspire them to be. However, in pursuit of that goal, you ventured into the Sierra Madre to capture some of its miraculous vending machines, only to find an old nemisis, Elijah seemingly returned from the grave. You attempted to do that which you are most familiar with, blast and fight your way to his heart and destroy him, only to be repulsed, saved by one you thought dead, but returned to BigMT, grievously wounded. For now though, your people must continue to deal with the goals and problems they face day to day.
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TO DO LIST/SUGGESTIONS/ETC.

Think Tank Gifts

>Replicator
Level 1 Vending Machine Optoins {unlocks additional replication options} [ ] (needs Needs Repaired Y-0 Research Center Lv1)
Level 1 Vending Machine Bigger {makes more} [ ] (needs Needs Repaired Y-0 Research Center Lv1)
Repaired Y-0 Research Center Lv1 [X] (Needs Repaired Construction Bots [X] Needs Repaired Facility [X] Needs Additional Vending Machines [X])

>Unity
Clean Unity Food [ ] (needs FEV Research)
Unity Webbing [ ] (needs FEV Research)
FEV Research Lv1 [ ] FEV Research A proper FEV Lab. Needs Prime Human Subjects)
A proper FEV Lab [ ]
Prime/Untainted Human Subjects [ ] (Needs to convince Chinese Volunteers

>Brain
Reverse Engineer Biological research station [ ]
Reverse Engineer Sierra Madre Machine [ ] (needs more Sierra Madre Machines)
Investigate the Construction Zone for its Vehicles and Construction Bots [X]

>Riddick
Get a Vehicle Garage [ ] (or a Chinese War Factory. Needs Vehicle Fuel.)

>Hexcrete Plant
Small Cement/Concrete Mill [ ] (Needs Chinese War Factory. Needs Small Chemical Mill. Needs Limestone and Quartz and Gypsum Mine. Needs Repaired Construction Bots. Needs Repaired Construction Vehicles)
Small Chemical Mill [ ] (Needs Chinese War Factory)
Repaired Construction Vehicles [ ] (Needs Chinese War Factory. Needs Vehicle Fuel.
Chinese War Factory [--] (CONSTRUCTING) eta 1-3/turns

>Old World Fabric
Old World Textile Plant. (Needs Cotton. Needs Nylon)
Nylon (Needs Small Chemical Mill. Needs Charcoal [ ])
Cotton [X] OR Hemp [--] (GROWING)

>Salient Green
Salient Green [ ] (Needs Banana Yucca)
Bigger Biological Research Station (Needs Reverse Engineer Biological research station)
Banana Yucca [X]

>Possible Luxuries (Not a complete List)
Alcohol [ ] (Needs Bigger Biological Research Station)
Bar [ ] (Needs Building Materials. Needs Alcohol.)
Better Public Baths [ ] (Needs Building Materials)

>Other
Repaired Construction Bots [X]
Vehicle Fuel [ ] (Needs Small Fuel Mill. Needs Salient Green)
Small Fuel Mill [ ] (Needs Chinese War Factory)
Cement Mines (Limestone [ ] Quartz/Gypsum [ ])
Charcoal [ ] (Needs Lumbermill)
Lumbermill [ ] (Needs Wood)
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>>1532647
!WARNING!

Disease has struck The BoxCars, and the followers are reporting a sudden wave of Typhus spreading throughout the camp, possibly due to an underlying rat infestation. The followers are scrambling to combat the spread of this deadly disease and treat those infected, but are reporting difficulties. Medical supplies are falling rapidly.
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>>>>>Food: Average (Slightly Declining)
>>>>>Water: Above Average
>>>>>Medicine: Low (Falling!)
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Wood (tiny) Scrap Metal (Plentiful) Electronics (Plentiful) Hygiene Supplies (Abundant) Booze (Plentiful)
>>>>>Fuel: Airplane Fuel (Below Average)
>>>>>Total Pop: 339 Humans (and companions) +40 Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Total Armaments (proportionate to the total pop) Below Average
>>>>>>Weapons: Type (Subtype, Amount, Condition)
-Conventional Melee Weapons (Legion; Moderate, Pristine)
-Conventional Firearms (Legion; Moderate, Pristine) (Mercenary, Above Moderate, Intact)
-Energy Firearms (Human Plasma, Moderate, Intact) (Human Laser, Moderate, Intact)
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional (Below Average) Energy (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor/Uniorms:
(Salvaged Legion, Moderate, Pristine)
(Legion Centurion. Tiny, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Armor, Moderate, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Uniforms, Moderate, Intact)
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---THE CRATER---
!NEW!
>>>>>Morale: Scared
>>>>>Current Pop:
107 Human
>>>>>Garrison:
6 Devils Brigade - Power Armor
19 Couriers Companions - Arcade, Doc Delilah, Willow, Ares, Cass, Raul, Veronica, ED-E, Rusty, Wendy Gilbert, Hazel, Desmond Harper, Vanessa, Joana, AXE MAN, Milton+Hans, Sonia, Riddick
200 Securitrons MK2
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
576 Robo Scorpions
>>>>>Prisoner: None
!NEW!
>>>>> Infrastructure: Higgs Village Warehouse [6 Intact Homes w/{Toilets, Air Condition}, Indoor living area. Raul’s Shack. Follower Hospital.). 5 Box Cars. Latrines. Plumbing Water. Heated Water. Indoor Ventilation. The DOME. The SINK (BigMT Command Center. The THINK TANK). The FORBIDDEN ZONE. Barracks/Training Ground. (Average). Lobotomite Pleasure House (Primitive). Constrution Site (Small). Y-0 Research Center. Scrap Performance Stage. X-2 Transmitter Array. Hemp Farm (Growing eta ???-7/Turns)
Chinese War Factory (INCOMPLETE - Needs more actions)
>>>>>Defenses: Radar Fence/Mountain Range. Laser Turrets (Few). Watch Towers.
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Riddick’s Charge Co. Dodger 5 Bulldozers (Ruined) 1 Giant Crane (Ruined)
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (HUGE). BigMT Underground Reactors
>>>>>>Other
+The THINK TANK
+Dr. MOBIUS
+Unity
+Julia Farkas
+Arcade Ganon
+30 Allied Followers
+55 Captured Female Lobotomites
+67 Captured Male Lobotomites.
+20 Construction Bots


---THE BOXCARS---
!NEW!
>>>>>Morale: Concerned
>>>>>Armaments: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
232 Human
+40 Super Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Garrison:
1 Couriers Companions – Doc Mitchel
51 Child Soldiers “Freeside Rats”
11 Trained Refular Officers [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
59 Trained Regular Infantry [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
22 Trained Militia [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Veterans}
30 Militia Recruits [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Raw}
+20 Super Mutants
+20 NightKin
400 Securitrons MK2
>>>>>Prisoner: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: 20 Rail Car Homes. Latrines. Spring Well. Hazmant Truck Container. Radioactive Liquid Tank. Irradiated Water Tank (95% Intact) Clean Water Tank (Intact)
Banana Yucca Farm (Large)
Cotton Farm (Medium)
>>>>>Defenses: None
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird, 1 Fuel Economic Semi Truck,
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (Adequate) {Shared from The Crater}. Electrical Poles

>>>>>>Other:
+Marcus
+Keene
+20 Herd Animals (Brahmin/Bighorn)
+5 Young Brahmin

---

!Alert!
The Courier is slowly recovering from his grievous injuries. You do not have a Hero Action at this time.

Your away team has returned, along with the Vertibird.

---

>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 41
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>>1532742
>CIV
Create rat traps and shit to eliminate the infestation.

>REPAIR/JURY-RIG
Create chips to turn into medicine.

>MILITARY
Attempt to scout the surrounding area for supplies of scrap metal, radioactive materials and other such resources.
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>>1532787
Supporting.
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>>1532787
Supporting. Can we also have the kids around Boxcars make a get-well card for the Courier?
I'm sure he'd appreciate it God willing he still has functioning eye balls.
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>>1532791
>>1532787
>>1532796

roll with your post.
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Rolled 43 (1d100)

>>1532791
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Rolled 3 (1d100)

>>1532796
All in all, things could be worse.
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Rolled 1 (1d100)

>>1532799
I don't roll but fine. My luck is too...unpredictable.
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>>1532813
FUCK
Spend the boon to avoid the plauge.
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>>1532813
FUCKING SEE!

THIS IS WHY I DON NAE ROLL.


Burn a boon for fuck sake.
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Vote to activate boon.
Cuz holy shit it is not our day today.
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>>1532827
WHY NOT?


Our people will literally die of a simple disease, our military will get fucked on their scouting mission and knowing my luck the people who know how to make the chips will form a union.
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>>1532813
LOCKED
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>>1532827
>Not spend a boon to avoid a plauge.
What?
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>>1532842
>overreaction the reply
Are you new?

Don't just lock in like that folks.
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>>1532819
>>1532821
>>1532825
3 Votes to spend a boon.

Any objections?
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>>1532856
No.
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>>1532813
>Rolled 1 (1d100)
>>1532856
Nope, this is a good time as any.
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>>1532856
>Spend boon
or
>die of Typhus
TOUGH CHOICE
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>>1532856
no boon
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>>1532853
Do you not remember the last time we got a nat 1 in this quest and people went "nah don't burn a boon, it'll be fine~" cause I do! It cost us Nevada.


>>1532856
No objections here.
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>>1532875
>It cost us Nevada.
You mean the Mojave?
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>>1532860
>>1532864
>>1532875
Three for

>>1532873
one against

>>1532872
I think in favour of using a boon?
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>>1532882
Functionally no difference but yes. I remember it as the Nevada not the Mojave.
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>>1532883
I'm for using the boon and alleviating the effects of that nat 1.
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>>1532856
>>1532883
Technically 4 for, I'm a new voter.
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Yeah, primary point is OP we are overwhelmingly in favour of using it.


God, dice or OP save our souls.
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>>1532890
>Functionally no difference but yes. I remember it as the Nevada not the Mojave.
Sick burn.
What do you mean? The Mojave Desert's the desert across 4 different states, most of it in California.
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>>1532918
Wut. You played NV right?
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>>1532918
I would point out I live in Scotland and thus my knowledge of american geography beyond a few things is fairly basic.
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>>1532918
>>1532927
If he's referring to the in-game map, then that's a different story.
>>1532933
How's it over there?
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>>1532933
Are you that guy I had that conversation with about American culture and the IRA being a bunch of faggots in one of the early threads?
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>>1532945
Wet. Cold and currently 3 AM. On the other hand I get nationalised healthcare and everything is within a few hours driving distance at most.
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>>1532950
Quite possibly. I also possibly offended someone from the Midwest but that might have been a different quest.
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>>1532954
>nationalised healthcare
Genuinely curious and not even shittalking, but how are medical facilities over there?
Are they overbooked?
Do the doctors suck?
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>>1532954
Hows those imported shitskins?
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>>1532959
>Midwest
As an American, I can confidently say nobody gives a flying fuck about the Midwest.
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>>1532961
That's Britain...isn't it?
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>>1532959
None of us care about the midwest, Not even the midwest.
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>>1532960
Medical facilities are pretty nice. Wait times aren't too bad for things like checkups in regards to dentists (everything for those younger than 18 is free as well) or opticians. If you have a serious injury then it will be treated quickly and effectively.

For example when I was much younger I broke my arm and was treated in a matter of minutes after arriving at the hospital: in, saw the doctor, got an X-ray and then my memory goes a little fuzzy.

Plus there is the fact that you never worry about the potential for your doctor being pressured by drug companies to push their products on to you or anything like that.

>>1532961
In my life I have known few people that are clearly non-European as they are seemingly rarer in my part of Scotland and seemingly adapt well to the culture.

>>1532962
>>1532965
Well tell him that, he was pissed.
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>>1532959
>Quite possibly. I also possibly offended someone from the Midwest but that might have been a different quest.
>>1532998
>Well tell him that, he was pissed.
What quest was this?
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>>1532998
How are taxes?
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>>1533001
I can't remember but I think it was this one.


>>1533012
Decent but moving up tax brackets and shit can be problematic and make working in certain jobs and shit pointless. As the additional money just gets taxed heavier resulting in you getting less for harder work relatively.

Also you pay money for a plastic bag in order to encourage reusing them, I mean it works but still.
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>>1533023
>Decent but moving up tax brackets and shit can be problematic and make working in certain jobs and shit pointless. As the additional money just gets taxed heavier resulting in you getting less for harder work relatively.
Are these marginal tax rates or straight up blocked tax brackets?

>>1533023
>I can't remember but I think it was this one.
I don't remember anything like that happening, besides the IRA discussion.
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>>1533030
>Are these marginal tax rates or straight up blocked tax brackets?
If you earn less than X amount you get your earnings taxed at X rate. All earnings above that amount are taxed at rate Y. All earnings above that amount are taxed at rate Z and so on.

Band Taxable income Tax rate
Personal Allowance Up to £11,500 0%
Basic rate £11,501 to £45,000 20%
Higher rate £45,001 to £150,000 40%
Additional rate over £150,000 45%

To be exact.
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>>1533048
Dammit it ruined my formatting. Just follow this link:

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=UK+Earnings+taxation+brackets&oq=UK+Earnings+taxation+brackets&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j69i64l2.914j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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>>1532787
Bad news, the recent search for additional materials has revealed what was feared. You've scraped BigMT clean.

Luckily there's still the irradiated water tank that's no longer needed since you have a source of water.

As for the rats, trapping rats is proving a most annoying thing to do. The followers consider all sorts of things from pesticides to fumigations but find the lack of a chemical mill bothersome.

Unity comes up with her own novel solution. She stands in the middle of The Boxcars, wearing something colorful, and picks up a single rat and infects it with her hand and sends it off.

About a day passes by before she walks into the middle of the town again, holding a flute for some reason. She picks it up and begins to play. Very soon a horde of rats of every shape and size begin to pour from the settlement, and off into the distance.

The rat problem is solved.

The bad news is, further research by the brain indicates that Typhus is spread two ways. By fleas on rats, and by lice on the human body. Still this will make it somewhat easier to combat the disease, and any future rat born diseases are now prevented.

The followers say they've managed to slow the spread of the disease, they say better and more numerous housing and more numerous public baths can help prevent this. Another option is to finish the chemical mill so that soaps can be made.

>Farkas
"Either you finish up whatever project your doing to build more houses or some better bath stalls, or get us the ability to manufacture soap, this may be the first of many diseases that will continue in these cramped conditions."

You shave off some of the now no longer needed irradiated tank for medical supplies and spend it on medicine.
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>>1533071
I say we fast-track the chemical mill then. Everybody having access to soap helps and the chemical mill has a ton of uses.
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>>1533071
>Bad news, the recent search for additional materials has revealed what was feared. You've scraped BigMT clean.
You say bad news, I say good news!

That means no more Rads! We can begin deploying our population to the inner Big MT area without protective gear. We will however still need to eliminate any potential predators and such but that can be done in time.
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>>1533082
To do that we need the Chinese steel mill / war factory forge thing online. We can accelerate this by deploying additional labour and such but we might be better off considering alternative methods: creating simple baths and quarantining the infected for now will at least further limit the spread.
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>>1533086
There's still radioactive areas, certain areas of the ground and some buildings mainly.
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>>1533086
I suggest not doing this since
1 Some places will still be irradiated.
2 keeping Big MT equipped for research is better.
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>>1533102
Then there are still resources to harvest. Just more difficultly...


We'll need to construct a cyclotron.
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>>1533108
It will still be equipped for research, just we can now deploy them to do physical labour and such.
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>>1533116
Wait are you saying we can house people in Big MT or that we can send people to Big TM to work?
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>>1533140
To work. Once the Chinese build the industrial facilities, they'll only need to show our people how to work them.
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>>1533149
Oh, then yea they can do that.
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>>1533071
>>1533102
I vote to stick'em in BT.
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>>>>>Food: Average (Slightly Declining)
>>>>>Water: Above Average
>>>>>Medicine: Below Average (Falling!)
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Wood (tiny) Scrap Metal (Plentiful) Electronics (Plentiful) Hygiene Supplies (Abundant) Booze (Plentiful)
>>>>>Fuel: Airplane Fuel (Below Average)
>>>>>Total Pop: 339 Humans (and companions) +40 Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Total Armaments (proportionate to the total pop) Below Average
>>>>>>Weapons: Type (Subtype, Amount, Condition)
-Conventional Melee Weapons (Legion; Moderate, Pristine)
-Conventional Firearms (Legion; Moderate, Pristine) (Mercenary, Above Moderate, Intact)
-Energy Firearms (Human Plasma, Moderate, Intact) (Human Laser, Moderate, Intact)
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional (Below Average) Energy (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor/Uniorms:
(Salvaged Legion, Moderate, Pristine)
(Legion Centurion. Tiny, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Armor, Moderate, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Uniforms, Moderate, Intact)
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---THE CRATER---
>>>>>Morale: Scared
>>>>>Current Pop:
107 Human
>>>>>Garrison:
6 Devils Brigade - Power Armor
19 Couriers Companions - Arcade, Doc Delilah, Willow, Ares, Cass, Raul, Veronica, ED-E, Rusty, Wendy Gilbert, Hazel, Desmond Harper, Vanessa, Joana, AXE MAN, Milton+Hans, Sonia, Riddick
200 Securitrons MK2
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
576 Robo Scorpions
>>>>>Prisoner: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Higgs Village Warehouse [6 Intact Homes w/{Toilets, Air Condition}, Indoor living area. Raul’s Shack. Follower Hospital.). 5 Box Cars. Latrines. Plumbing Water. Heated Water. Indoor Ventilation. The DOME. The SINK (BigMT Command Center. The THINK TANK). The FORBIDDEN ZONE. Barracks/Training Ground. (Average). Lobotomite Pleasure House (Primitive). Constrution Site (Small). Y-0 Research Center. Scrap Performance Stage. X-2 Transmitter Array. Hemp Farm (Growing eta ???-7/Turns)
Chinese War Factory (INCOMPLETE - Needs more actions)
>>>>>Defenses: Radar Fence/Mountain Range. Laser Turrets (Few). Watch Towers.
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Riddick’s Charge Co. Dodger 5 Bulldozers (Ruined) 1 Giant Crane (Ruined)
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (HUGE). BigMT Underground Reactors
>>>>>>Other
+The THINK TANK
+Dr. MOBIUS
+Unity
+Julia Farkas
+Arcade Ganon
+30 Allied Followers
+55 Captured Female Lobotomites
+67 Captured Male Lobotomites.
+20 Construction Bots


---THE BOXCARS---
!NEW!
>>>>>Morale: Concerned
>>>>>Armaments: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
232 Human
+40 Super Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Garrison:
1 Couriers Companions – Doc Mitchel
51 Child Soldiers “Freeside Rats”
11 Trained Refular Officers [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
59 Trained Regular Infantry [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
22 Trained Militia [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Veterans}
30 Militia Recruits [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Raw}
+20 Super Mutants
+20 NightKin
400 Securitrons MK2
>>>>>Prisoner: None
!NEW!
>>>>> Infrastructure: 20 Rail Car Homes. Latrines. Spring Well. Hazmant Truck Container. Radioactive Liquid Tank. Irradiated Water Tank (85% Intact) Clean Water Tank (Intact)
Banana Yucca Farm (Large)
Cotton Farm (Medium)
>>>>>Defenses: None
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird, 1 Fuel Economic Semi Truck,
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (Adequate) {Shared from The Crater}. Electrical Poles

>>>>>>Other:
+Marcus
+Keene
+20 Herd Animals (Brahmin/Bighorn)
+5 Young Brahmin

>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 41
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>>1533175
>Civ.
Begin establishing quarantine, build some extra showers too.
>Repair.
Work on the Chinese War Factory.
>Millitary.
Train a stealth team.
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Rolled 97 (1d100)

>>1533183
Forgot roll
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>>1533185
Backing
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Rolled 2 (1d100)

>>1533183
>>1533180
backing these
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>>1533183
>>1533185
I will support you if you change the military action to be scouting further afield or eliminating threats inside of the Big mt area.
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>>1533191
>2
HOHOHO!
I'm gonna try to offset this
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Rolled 75 (1d100)

>>1533199
Shit
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>>1533183
Screw it, you've got my support and you have enough rolls...


Changing from >>1533195 to supporting >>1533183
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>>1533195
Scouting further won't help us, we already picked Big MT clean.
Can add the second thing though.
>>1533183
*Train a stealth team, also eliminate some threats in Big MT.
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>>1533217
I am asking for you to scout further away: away from big mt even.
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>>1533223
Alright, I'll do that next time, will be good training for the stealth team.
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>Meanwhile
"Soldier, report."

"Casualties are minimal sir. Down to just 3 men missing in the past month, we've learned how to deal with it."

"Harvesting operations?"

"Working at optimal efficiency. We're mostly using chainsaws and some of the new mower vehicles, we have flamethrowers and incinerator troopers on standby, burn any pods we find that so much as look like they could spore. Crews are equipped with the best rubber suits we have."

"How have the factories been, the material processing."

"Works just as good as any other tree sir. We're reporting record output."

"Excellent news, keep me updated."

"Um. . .Sir"

"What is it trooper."

"What exactly is this?"

"I don't know soldier. OSI is looking into it. It looks similar to something they found in a Vault back in the Mojave.

But whatever it is, it's a miracle.

This won't just change the outcome of the war. This will change the world. Make sure those spore samples are sent to the other planned reserves. "

"Yes sir."
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>>1533231
True.


My main reason for this is because we have to supply the forges of the Chinese with the steel and shit to build the factories to make the houses.


Also see if they can't find more train cars so we can house our people more comfortably.
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>>1533237
OH SHIT. Please let this not end badly...
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>>1533185
>>1533183
The Chinese, with the aid of your Robotic Construction workers and some securitrons, work hard on their War Factory.

Before its even complete, the industrious colonists have already churned out their first creation.

A modified bulldozer, made of some parts scrapped from the other wrecked bulldozers and forged from the now half finished Factory. It can run on either a nuclear battery, or gasoline. Currently its using a handful of the Vertibird fuel.

It will help finish their construction much faster!

>Worker
"Wǒ wéi zhōngguó dǎzào!"
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>>1533333
Quarantine measures are in effect. They are unpopular inside them, but approved of outside them. The Securitrons are maintaining order, despite a few fights and small panics, while the Followers continue to treat the endemic as best they can.
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>>1533333
Can the Bulldozers use Biodiesel or ethanol?
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>>1533361
Yes
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>>1533183
You have several options for a "Stealth Team" None of which will be ready this turn, but you can begin the training. It will help when the Courier is healed.

CHOOSE:
Keene would enjoy leading his Nightkin and Lilly, you consider it might be possible to use their natural abilities to best advantage if someone like yourself with Marcus help were to train them.

Dandan says she was raised as a Crimson Dragoon, an elite position of which only one person in her base would be given in a generation. The position had to be earned by taking a VR program, 'the glorious Invasion of Anchorage', which would kill you if you fail, and survive. She did. She says she can train a group of Chinese special forces, and when the factory is finished, even make some Chinese Stealth Armor for them which she is familiar with.

Of course you could just pick a number of Companions you know are goo at sneaking and make an A-Team. Or train a team yourself of some officers.

>Brain
"Hello there fellow friends of the Courier." says the Brain on a radio. "While he's incapacitated, I've noticed he gave orders to establish a stealth team.

I can imagine perhaps this is in anticipation of another attempt on that god forbidden Sierra Madre? I have words on that mind you. Still, I will point out that an organic team may be a terrible idea due to the cloud.

I believe if stealth is your method, perhaps you should consider Stealthed Robots instead. I have some design ideas, but what I would need is a robotics facility. Draining and repairing the Magnetohydraulics Plant, restoring the X-13 and the X-8 facilities will allow me to do this."
>>
>>>>>Food: Below Average (Slightly Declining)
>>>>>Water: Above Average
>>>>>Medicine: Below Average (Falling!)
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Wood (tiny) Scrap Metal (Plentiful) Electronics (Plentiful) Hygiene Supplies (Abundant) Booze (Plentiful)
>>>>>Fuel: Airplane Fuel (Below Average)
>>>>>Total Pop: 339 Humans (and companions) +40 Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Total Armaments (proportionate to the total pop) Below Average
>>>>>>Weapons: Type (Subtype, Amount, Condition)
-Conventional Melee Weapons (Legion; Moderate, Pristine)
-Conventional Firearms (Legion; Moderate, Pristine) (Mercenary, Above Moderate, Intact)
-Energy Firearms (Human Plasma, Moderate, Intact) (Human Laser, Moderate, Intact)
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional (Below Average) Energy (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor/Uniorms:
(Salvaged Legion, Moderate, Pristine)
(Legion Centurion. Tiny, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Armor, Moderate, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Uniforms, Moderate, Intact)
>>
>>1533428
Doesn't the cloud also destroy metal?
>>
>>1533437
>Repair.
Finish constructing the War Factory
>Civ.
Begin building the Small Chemical Mill once the War Factory is done.
>Millitary.
Scout away from the Big MT, use this as an opportunity to further train the stealth team.
>>
---THE CRATER---
>>>>>Morale: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
107 Human
>>>>>Garrison:
6 Devils Brigade - Power Armor
19 Couriers Companions - Arcade, Doc Delilah, Willow, Ares, Cass, Raul, Veronica, ED-E, Rusty, Wendy Gilbert, Hazel, Desmond Harper, Vanessa, Joana, AXE MAN, Milton+Hans, Sonia, Riddick
200 Securitrons MK2
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
576 Robo Scorpions
>>>>>Prisoner: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Higgs Village Warehouse [6 Intact Homes w/{Toilets, Air Condition}, Indoor living area. Raul’s Shack. Follower Hospital.). 5 Box Cars. Latrines. Plumbing Water. Heated Water. Indoor Ventilation. The DOME. The SINK (BigMT Command Center. The THINK TANK). The FORBIDDEN ZONE. Barracks/Training Ground. (Average). Lobotomite Pleasure House (Primitive). Constrution Site (Small). Y-0 Research Center. Scrap Performance Stage. X-2 Transmitter Array. Hemp Farm (Growing eta ???-7/Turns)
Chinese War Factory (INCOMPLETE - Needs more actions)
>>>>>Defenses: Radar Fence/Mountain Range. Laser Turrets (Few). Watch Towers.
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Riddick’s Charge Co. Dodger 5 Bulldozers (Ruined) 1 Giant Crane (Ruined)
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (HUGE). BigMT Underground Reactors
>>>>>>Other
+The THINK TANK
+Dr. MOBIUS
+Unity
+Julia Farkas
+Arcade Ganon
+30 Allied Followers
+55 Captured Female Lobotomites
+67 Captured Male Lobotomites.
+20 Construction Bots


---THE BOXCARS---
!NEW!
>>>>>Morale: Low
>>>>>Armaments: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
232 Human
+40 Super Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Garrison:
1 Couriers Companions – Doc Mitchel
51 Child Soldiers “Freeside Rats”
11 Trained Refular Officers [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
59 Trained Regular Infantry [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
22 Trained Militia [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Veterans}
30 Militia Recruits [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Raw}
+20 Super Mutants
+20 NightKin
400 Securitrons MK2
>>>>>Prisoner: None
!NEW!
>>>>> Infrastructure: 20 Rail Car Homes. Latrines. Spring Well. Hazmant Truck Container. Radioactive Liquid Tank. Irradiated Water Tank (85% Intact) Clean Water Tank (Intact)
Banana Yucca Farm (Large)
Cotton Farm (Medium)
>>>>>Defenses: Disease Quarantine Measures (Primitive)
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird, 1 Fuel Economic Semi Truck,
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (Adequate) {Shared from The Crater}. Electrical Poles

>>>>>>Other:
+Marcus
+Keene
+25 Herd Animals (Brahmin/Bighorn)
>>
Rolled 33 (1d100)

Hey OP we seem to be missing that bulldozer we fixed from the list of shit.


>>1533437
Also I support >>1533472's plan.
>>
>>1533480
--

!ALERT!
The Courier is slowly healing, covered head to toe in bandages, and is now on strict bed rest by AutoDoc's orders.

You can't see, everything is either numb or slightly aching, there's at least five different tubes in your body.

>Auto-Doc
"You need a break before I can do any more surgery to patch you up. I got your ears working at least."

As you lie there on the bed drifting in and out of sleep, you feel someone soflty grasp your hand, and place it on something soft and round. You hear a voice speaking.

"Please get well soon. I want you to see them when they are born. It's very soon"

!Alert!

A ghost person has been spotted by the watchtowers, walking toward The Boxcars. It waves at them, and has requested entry.

--

>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 42
>>
>>1533497
The Bulldozer is part of the Chinese settlement stats. I have those in my personal notes. Their a fully loyal vassal faction in your empire.
>>
>>1533501
>covered head to toe in bandages
We Joshua Graham now? Can we start quoting the Bible? Can it be the Russian Orthodox Bible?
>>
Rolled 19 (1d100)

>>1533501
We were expecting Christine so we should let them in but this might be a Elijah spy, Thy go in but must be interrogated.
Also, here's the roll for >>1533472
>>
>>1533513
>Orthodox
My brethren.
>>
>>1533513
Perhaps, though "the Mustard Gassed' Man" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
>>
>>1533538
The Clouded Man
The Man of Cloud(s)
Something along these lines?
>>
>>1533538
>"the Mustard Gassed' Man"
>Implying we won't be "The Plague doctor" or "The Rust" or >>1533541
>>
>>1533451
It's very corrosive to organic materials, such as flesh, leather, etc., but actually preserves non-organic materials.
>>
After checking i found it could also corrode metal, the cloud rusted the Hazmat suits latches and the Cloud can even decay Saturnite.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Cloud
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Hazmat_suit_(Old_World_Blues)
>>
>>1533538
>>1533541
>>1533543
>>1533574
Mr. Gasman?
>>
>>1533628
Idk, that sounds pretty goofy.
>>
>>1533617
Mhm.

>Brain
"Yes," say the Brain to one of your civ planners "organic materials and metals seem to suffer badly. But I've noticed certain materials are actually preserved, such as the building itself, though stained. I believe I could design a robot encased in a substance that might be resistant to the cloud, far easier than I could developing a suit for a human.

And even though Metal rusts in the face of the cloud, it's far easier to replace that then tissue, as seen by the Courier."
>>
>>1533641
What about the Hazmats suits? All we need is to replace the Latch with something that doesn't corrode but can still function for sealing/unsealing the suit.
>>
>>1533652
>Brain
"Those suits were a failure. The Cloud seeped through, the melting latches only added to seal their victims in. Perhaps a new suit might be developed, I imagine since they were designed to fail intentionally anyway, but I'm not so hopeful on the prospects. I'd need the chemical mill for sure."
>>
Rolled 20 (1d100)

>>1533538

Jesus, I missed us getting hit with gas? Shit. Well there's the auto-doc to help with cosmetics.

I support this plan >>1533472 #

>>1533669

>"I'm curious actually. Is there something you want to be called besides my Brain? I mean, you have your own identity. Would you want to have a name too? It's your choice."
>>
Rolled 88 (1d100)

>>1533501
support >>1533472
let the ghost in
>>
>>1533699
>"I'm curious actually. Is there something you want to be called besides my Brain? I mean, you have your own identity. Would you want to have a name too? It's your choice."

>Brain
"I would be careful my friend. What you propose borders on schizphrenia. What 'I' am is no different than any other thought in your head. I simply speak louder thanks to the voice modulator.

Also I'm smarter than the other thoughts."
>>
>>1533497
>>1533514
>>1533699
[LOCKED]
>>
Rolled 31 (1d100)

>>1533480
Also rolling for reasons
>>
>>1533497
>>1533472
Bad news.

Due to confusion on the nature of the stealth team, the action has not progressed.

Unfamiliarity with a chemical plant has caused some of the workers to make a terrible accident, resulting in an explosion. Only a few people were killed, but the metal involved has been rendered unusable.

However good news is that the Chinese War Factory is finished! Though some initial difficulties were encountered, the Chinese engineering skill and the asssistance of worker robots and the Dozer has dealt with these issues. The workers have raised the Red Flag and have hosted a band before the opening of the facility. The Chinese Colony now station a permanent garrison and work force there, and are awaiting shipments of steel for the first projects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b4qD4qNff8&t=7s

Riddick is already moving his car inside, and is making repairs to his Charge Dodger.

However that was the last of the bags of Old World Concrete, and you have no more for building materials. Any new buildings will have to be made out of scrap or sheet metal until you get the concrete production working.
>>
>>1535114
!Alert!
A fire has broken out in The Boxcars. Several boxcars have been burnt.

It was mercifully put out by the help of securitrons and brave adhoc volunteers, but has diminished some of our water supply.

The followers say a Fire Brigade is needed and might have prevented this.

--

The Ghost Person speaks once inside, and claims to be Christine. It does sound like her. She was asked to remove her suit to show it, but said she could not.

>Settler
"What's the matter? Would it kill you?"

>Christine
"No. It would just be. . .very painful."
>>
>>>>>Food: Below Average (Slightly Declining)
>>>>>Water: Above Average
>>>>>Medicine: Low (Falling!)
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Wood (tiny) Scrap Metal (Moderate) Electronics (Moderate) Hygiene Supplies (Abundant) Booze (Plentiful)
>>>>>Fuel: Airplane Fuel (Below Average)
!NEW!
>>>>>Total Pop: 320 Humans (and companions) +40 Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Total Armaments (proportionate to the total pop) Below Average
>>>>>>Weapons: Type (Subtype, Amount, Condition)
-Conventional Melee Weapons (Legion; Moderate, Pristine)
-Conventional Firearms (Legion; Moderate, Pristine) (Mercenary, Above Moderate, Intact)
-Energy Firearms (Human Plasma, Moderate, Intact) (Human Laser, Moderate, Intact)
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional (Below Average) Energy (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor/Uniorms:
(Salvaged Legion, Moderate, Pristine)
(Legion Centurion. Tiny, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Armor, Moderate, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Uniforms, Moderate, Intact)

About 19 humans are dead. Mostly from the Disease and having been elderly or already poor in health. A few from the fires.
>>
---THE CRATER---
>>>>>Morale: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
107 Human
>>>>>Garrison:
6 Devils Brigade - Power Armor
19 Couriers Companions - Arcade, Doc Delilah, Willow, Ares, Cass, Raul, Veronica, ED-E, Rusty, Wendy Gilbert, Hazel, Desmond Harper, Vanessa, Joana, AXE MAN, Milton+Hans, Sonia, Riddick
200 Securitrons MK2
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
576 Robo Scorpions
>>>>>Prisoner: None
!NEW!
>>>>> Infrastructure: Higgs Village Warehouse [6 Intact Homes w/{Toilets, Air Condition}, Indoor living area. Raul’s Shack. Follower Hospital.). 5 Box Cars. Latrines. Plumbing Water. Heated Water. Indoor Ventilation. The DOME. The SINK (BigMT Command Center. The THINK TANK). The FORBIDDEN ZONE. Barracks/Training Ground. (Average). Lobotomite Pleasure House (Primitive). Constrution Site (Small). Y-0 Research Center. Scrap Performance Stage. X-2 Transmitter Array. Hemp Farm (Growing eta ???-7/Turns)
Chinese War Factory
>>>>>Defenses: Radar Fence/Mountain Range. Laser Turrets (Few). Watch Towers.
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Riddick’s Charge Co. Dodger 5 Bulldozers (Ruined) 1 Giant Crane (Ruined)
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (HUGE). BigMT Underground Reactors
>>>>>>Other
+The THINK TANK
+Dr. MOBIUS
+Unity
+Julia Farkas
+Arcade Ganon
+30 Allied Followers
+55 Captured Female Lobotomites
+67 Captured Male Lobotomites.
+20 Construction Bots

---THE BOXCARS---
!NEW!
>>>>>Morale: Miserable
>>>>>Armaments: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
213 Human
+40 Super Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Garrison:
1 Couriers Companions – Doc Mitchel
51 Child Soldiers “Freeside Rats”
11 Trained Refular Officers [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
59 Trained Regular Infantry [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
22 Trained Militia [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Veterans}
30 Militia Recruits [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Raw}
+20 Super Mutants
+20 NightKin
400 Securitrons MK2
>>>>>Prisoner: None
!NEW!
>>>>> Infrastructure: 19 Rail Car Homes. Latrines. Spring Well. Hazmant Truck Container. Radioactive Liquid Tank. Irradiated Water Tank (85% Intact) Clean Water Tank (Intact)
Banana Yucca Farm (Large)
Cotton Farm (Medium)
>>>>>Defenses: Disease Quarantine Measures (Primitive)
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird, 1 Fuel Economic Semi Truck,
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (Adequate) {Shared from The Crater}. Electrical Poles

>>>>>>Other:
+Marcus
+Keene
+25 Herd Animals (Brahmin/Bighorn)
>>
>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 43
>>
Would we have died if not for that nat 100?

What can we do with availible resources to improve conditions at boxcars?
>>
>>1535542
What about refrigerators, if not individual things then maybe a big communal freezer room, perhaps with individual lockers?

not to mention the tech would also serve for the chem and biology labs
>>
>>1535224
Also OP you're copy pasting the same mistake every update
>11 trained refulars
>>
>>1535713
Woops.

>>1535542
>Would we have died if not for that nat 100?
No
It would have been extremely painful

It probably wouldnt' have killed the Boxcars outright, but even if it did you still have the Crater.

and even if you lose EVERYONE, you still have the Courier.

Some immdiate things the followers suggest, as temporary measures, to help deal with some current issues.
>Spend some scrap metal to build emergency sheet metal housing
>Also build additional public baths, even with Sheet metal
>Killing some Brahmin immediately for Soap

In general the brain also suggests continuing as you are, pushing for the construction ability asap. Setting up some even primitive limestone mines, so that we could build foundations for concrete houses
>>
>>1535852
>Brain
"The Chinese actually might be good candidates for esablishing that mines. They have more trained engineers than you or the followers."

Other alleviating measures include:
-Building a mass Clothe's Washer for cleaner clothes

The followers feel traning more medically capable people would be a good idea.

Unity says she can try to send little bugs to eat the fleas off of people to stop the spread, but that would be scary and people might freak out. A campaign to inform and alleviate people might be warranted.
>>
>>1535875
>Brain
"Finding and repairing some Mr. Gutsy's to go around and keep things clean would be most useful as well."
>>
Those are some immediate improvements. The Brain has a few ideas on morale improvements too, but suggests focusing on the priority care needs first.
>>
Rolled 49 (1d100)

>>1535226
>civ
Build some emergency housing
>repair
go find some of the mr gutsys floating around and reprogram/repair them
>military
train crimson dragoons. Keele is a bit of a flight risk, and robots don't have the capability. Have dandan not only train her fellows but also settlers with aptitude.
>>
>>1535973
I agree with civ and repair but I don't think Chinese as stealth would be the best. I'd rather prefer nightkin stealth unit
>>
>>1535989
they're rather limited and psychologically unstable. Its too risky to use them as entirely stealth units. IT would be better to use them as frontline units who can use stealth for re positioning.
>>
>>1536009
Yeah I like that, the chinks can be the special forces while the nightkin can be some sort of light infantry chasseurs / flankers that can also close in and wreck face in melee
Cunning brutality, if you will
>>
>>1536057
>>1535989
then y'all better roll, I just got pretty average.
>>
Rolled 100 (1d100)

>>1536075
>>1535973
50% chance of getting better let's go
>>
>>1536096
HOHOHOHO!
I'll back this then
>>1535973
>>
>>1536096
How the-

Welp. HERE WE GO AGAIN.

[LOCKED]
>>
>>1536266
First roll after brushing up on the other threads as well
this quest's easy
>>
>>1536266
>>1536301
RIP.
>>
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>>1535973
With the new Chinese War Factory, sheet metal houses are soon built in record time, aided by the construction bots and the Chinese military base building experience. Almost overnight the framework for new and expanded houses are built, and as a bonus, public bathhouses AND big washing machines as well!

Already clothes and mattresses are being boiled and and cleansed.

What's even more important however, is remembering some old robot parts at the X-17 Medical Facility.

You have gained a new Companion!

Doctor Orderly MD PHD DDS. He comes with a full unit of Dr. Orderly's.

When given the order of treating "Typhus" epidemic. Doctor Orderly knows exactly what to do.

He heads for the old Little Yangzte Barracks where he uncovers BigMT's stock of DDT spray for cases of lice within the concentration camp, and with his fellow robots and the help of followers they are now decisively exterminating the human flea and lice infestation spreading the disease, the Typhus epidemic should soon be resolved.
>>
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>>1535973
Dandan has begun to train a unit of special forces. Unfortunately, part of the requirement involves using the VR simulation, which is in Chinese and not understandable to anyone of the camp. Still, it's not as if people were lining up to train in a simulation that would kill them if they failed.

In fact several of the Chinese do, but she welcomes the Survivors and personally gives them some of her spare suit parts.

She is already training and disciplining them after many more weeks afterward, instructing them on wasteland creatures and American weapons for the modern world, and says she feels they are adequate enough for usage when needed, though she recommends leading them herself.
>>
Rolled 13 (1d100)

>>1535224
Rolling for reasons
>>
>>1536573
!ALERT!
The lights have flickered on and off for a few seconds, and there's a rumbling felt throughout the Crater.

Nothing else has happened though.
>>
>>>>>Food: Below Average (Slightly Declining)
>>>>>Water: Above Average
>>>>>Medicine: Low (Slightly Declining)
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Wood (tiny) Scrap Metal (Moderate) Electronics (Moderate) Hygiene Supplies (Abundant) Booze (Plentiful)
>>>>>Fuel: Airplane Fuel (Below Average)
>>>>>Total Pop: 320 Humans (and companions) +40 Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Total Armaments (proportionate to the total pop) Below Average
>>>>>>Weapons: Type (Subtype, Amount, Condition)
-Conventional Melee Weapons (Legion; Moderate, Pristine)
-Conventional Firearms (Legion; Moderate, Pristine) (Mercenary, Above Moderate, Intact)
-Energy Firearms (Human Plasma, Moderate, Intact) (Human Laser, Moderate, Intact)
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional (Below Average) Energy (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor/Uniorms:
(Salvaged Legion, Moderate, Pristine)
(Legion Centurion. Tiny, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Armor, Moderate, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Uniforms, Moderate, Intact)
>>
>>1536573
>Rolled 13 (1d100)
>>1536582
I'm concerned...
>>
---THE CRATER---
>>>>>Morale: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
107 Human
>>>>>Garrison:
6 Devils Brigade - Power Armor
19 Couriers Companions - Arcade, Doc Delilah, Willow, Ares, Cass, Raul, Veronica, ED-E, Rusty, Wendy Gilbert, Hazel, Desmond Harper, Vanessa, Joana, AXE MAN, Milton+Hans, Sonia, Riddick
200 Securitrons MK2
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
576 Robo Scorpions
>>>>>Prisoner: None
!NEW!
>>>>> Infrastructure: Higgs Village Warehouse [6 Intact Homes w/{Toilets, Air Condition}, Indoor living area. Raul’s Shack. Follower Hospital.). 5 Box Cars. Latrines. Plumbing Water. Heated Water. Indoor Ventilation. The DOME. The SINK (BigMT Command Center. The THINK TANK). The FORBIDDEN ZONE. Barracks/Training Ground. (Average). Lobotomite Pleasure House (Primitive). Constrution Site (Small). Y-0 Research Center. Scrap Performance Stage. X-2 Transmitter Array. Hemp Farm (Growing eta ???-7/Turns)
Chinese War Factory
>>>>>Defenses: Radar Fence/Mountain Range. Laser Turrets (Few). Watch Towers.
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Riddick’s Charge Co. Dodger 5 Bulldozers (Ruined) 1 Giant Crane (Ruined)
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (HUGE). BigMT Underground Reactors
>>>>>>Other
+The THINK TANK
+Dr. MOBIUS
+Unity
+Julia Farkas
+Arcade Ganon
+30 Allied Followers
+55 Captured Female Lobotomites
+67 Captured Male Lobotomites.
+20 Construction Bots

---THE BOXCARS---
!NEW!
>>>>>Morale: Below Average
>>>>>Armaments: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
213 Human
+40 Super Mutants/Nightkin
!NEW!
>>>>>Garrison:
2 Couriers Companions – Doc Mitchel, Doc Doc Orderly MD PHD DDS
+15 Mr. Orderly Robots
51 Child Soldiers “Freeside Rats”
11 Trained Regular Officers [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
59 Trained Regular Infantry [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
22 Trained Militia [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Veterans}
30 Militia Recruits [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Raw}
+20 Super Mutants
+20 NightKin
400 Securitrons MK2
>>>>>Prisoner: None
!NEW!
>>>>> Infrastructure: 19 Rail Car Homes. 15 Sheet Metal Homes. Latrines. Spring Well. Hazmant Truck Container. Radioactive Liquid Tank. Irradiated Water Tank (85% Intact) Clean Water Tank (Intact). Improved Public Baths. Public Washing Machines.
Banana Yucca Farm (Large)
Cotton Farm (Medium)
>>>>>Defenses: Disease Quarantine Measures (Primitive)
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird, 1 Fuel Economic Semi Truck,
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (Adequate) {Shared from The Crater}. Electrical Poles

>>>>>>Other:
+Marcus
+Keene
+25 Herd Animals (Brahmin/Bighorn)

---

Morale and health has improved greatly following the building of new homes, new baths, and electric washing machines! People just wish there was soap.
>>
>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 44

---

!ALERT!

The Courier has become well enough to walk and move around on his own. The Doc says one more round of cosmetic surgery and he'll be back to his good old self. You have your Hero Action back.

Christine is waiting in The Boxcars. She hasn't taken off her suit.

Unity has informed you she is having contractions. The Auto-Doc is mentally preparing himself for something he's never done before, you can smell he's sweating oil.
>>
>>1536606
Were we missing something to make the soap? We don't really need one based on tallow or something, can't we just cook up some shower gel or something with our chemistry knowledge?
>>
>>1536626
Not on a mass scale. The small chemical mill would allow you to do that.
>>
>>1536619
Honestly quite interested in that unity/fev kid of ours. Our first one?
>>
>>1536626
>>1536628
You have the organic vegetable matter to make vegetable oil soaps though. Production, not supply, is the issue.

>>1536633
As far as you're aware.

The Courier is a man who enjoys the company of women on his travels. A lot.
>>
Rolled 99 (1d100)

>>1536619
>Hero - Go watch our and wait for the kid to pop, then visit spooky ghost lady

>Mil - find out where the fuck those quakes came from

>Civ get those farms larger and/or spitting out mor salient green We have the farm that acclerates growing green right? And the he,p?

>Repair - Chem mill or the supplies for it?
>>
>>1536628
Ah, fair enough. Now that the furnace is running, I suggest we use our civ action to build the chemical plant.

Our brain should study the cloud a bit, and come with a chemical compound we could use to neutralize the cloud or at least lessen its impact for the foreseeable attack on that place. The chemical mill help to produce that compound in needed amounts.
>>
>>1536643
i am willing to vote and back something else, if they have better ideas.
>>
>>1536643
Let's show that kid of ours some 99's worth of fatherly love.
>>
>>1536643
>Brain
"I'd suggest rather than expanding the farm you work on reverse engineering that Biological Research station. You've got the raw material down, for now, but no way to convert it en masse."
>>
>>1536659
is that a repair or civ action QM?
>>
Rolled 54 (1d100)

>>1536619
>Hero
Prepare for the birth by gathering up all the information on normal human birth and knowledge of FEV, as well as setting up a remote 'Clean Room' behind some bulletproof glass that the Auto-Doc can use to conduct the operation remotely. This is an FEV baby, and possibly contagious. Take precautions.

>Repair/Build
Start working on the chemical Mill. It can be made out of sheet metal for the moment, but leave the potential for a systematic upgrade to concrete in the planning.

>Civ
Work on setting up an education facility. Have some of the more academically inclined companions (headed by Brain, ofc) prepare for a series of classes intended to educate in both practical and theoretical fields. Explain WHY a grenade explodes, not just how.

>Military
Start working on scouting out the Mothership Zeta thing. Clear and secure shit room by room, make sure the aliens aren't conducting repairs and about to run off with GLORIOUS SPACE AGE TECHNOLOGIES! Give warnings not to let Nuckelavee out.
>>
>>1536664
Civ or Hero. Repair doesn't do research.
>>
>>1536667
Can we make talking to Christine a free action?
>>
>>1536619
editing this post here >>1536643

>Hero - Go watch our and wait for the kid to pop, then visit spooky ghost lady, However make sure the kid is separated for abit with a clean room and all that. No new infections

>Mil - find out where the fuck those quakes came from

>Civ - RnD the Biological Research Station to get the coversion of goods en mass.

>Repair/build - Chem mill or the supplies for it?

>>1536667
thanks for clearing that up QM. Was waiting for us to unlock an RnD action.
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>>1536679
Yes. Good rolls help of course.
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>>1536679
>>1536654
vote this >>1536681 we can get the shit running with a 99
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>>1536690
I'm more concerned of a contagious fev baby or that we don't instill that potentially monstrous kid some humane aspects
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>>1536707
I edited it so that we took precautions to ensure the kid isn't suddenly gonna infect everybody. Clean room and all that good stuff.
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Rolled 93 (1d100)

>>1536619
support>>1536681
roll just to have 3
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>>1536687
Let's talk with Christine. See how she has been doing and what happened after we left Sierra Madre the first time
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Rolled 19 (1d100)

>>1536619
I'll back >>1536681
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>>1536681
[LOCKED]
>Writing
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>>1536786
>tfw kid pops out 110% pure human
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>>1536814
>tfw when it ages faster than normal
I'm suddenly afraid of Unity wanting more kids.
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>>1536877
Checked also.

>Tfw Unity wants more kids because of how pure and good it is
>Tfw Unity wants to breed us an army to prove they can be helpful.
[/spoiler] >tfw she wants to breed a new Super Human Army.
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>>1536886
Breeding an army is all well and good until they start calling us papa. Then it starts getting weird.
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>>1536897
"Papa, We have brought you the head of Ceaser! "
" Have you washed your hands though? "
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Wait...is the kid gonna be connected to Unity now too?
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>>1536918
...having sex with her is now a new kind of fucked up...assuming that is the case...
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>>1536946
"More to the left."
"WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE GET OUT!"
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>>1536918
>>1536946
I mean, Remember there kids are abit more bestial. So we're gonna have to get a net gun.
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>>1536918
>>1536946
>>1536952
Mind Hives: Taking incest to the next level.
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Anyhow. Can I just ask where we are going to go from here?


I mean, we had a fairly clear plan: get industry, get houses, get science, ?, ?, ?, ?, defeat NCR and Legion. Yet I feel we are going to be putting all of that on delay to deal with the Sierra madre situation.
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>>1536980
Getting industry and houses is still going on.
We just need to focus on stopping Elijah for now.
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>>1536980
Can always consult with your brain.
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>>1536980
We just got delayed a bit, we still made the Chinese War Factory and the Stealth team.
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>>1536980
gotta get the mines and shit up and running. Build proper city.
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>>1536985
>>1536989
>>1536991
See I understand that, what I mean is that I feel there is a large gap in our plan between our location and our destination. Which we have no plans or objectives to fill.


I mean we can just continue solving problems as they arise but given time that won't guide us. To be entirely honest, we will need a actual plan of expansion and advancement beyond what we actually have to defeat our enemies.


I do however understand we are delaying that in regards to our actions if they can do something to help with the Sierra situation.


>>1536987
Yeah that could work.
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>>1537004
Yeah. We really ought to be proactive instead of reactive.
Consulting with our brain and possibly having a city hall might work.
Or even a suggestion box and getting our buildings up to par would work.
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>>1537004
>I mean we can just continue solving problems as they arise but given time that won't guide us. To be entirely honest, we will need a actual plan of expansion and advancement beyond what we actually have to defeat our enemies.
We do have a plan, get robots, get vending machine tech, get Big MT SCIENCE then expand.
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>>1537012
Yeah but we are working to a sort of courier is emperor thing but I suppose we could hold court with our companions / advisers and hear what the people have to say.


>>1537013
That isn't a plan. That is a series of objectives and goals.

How are you going to get the robots? Are we going to make them? Salvage them? Where are we going to find the resources or the robots to make / salvage them?

Once we have the vending machine tech, how are we going to use it? Backbone of or assisting our industry? Are we going to develop it towards being more efficient? Able to do larger things?

As to big mt science. Will we reinstate the use of human test subjects? Will we continue the pre-war projects or start new ones? Will we even have access to the resources to make use of them?

As to expansion, where? Into the Legion? The NCR? The divide? Aggressively, passively or covertly? Will we build towns? Military outposts? Will people live there or will it just be to get resources and technology for our city?
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>>1537065
A good king will attend to the needs of his people.
A great king will alleviate those needs before they are ever brought up.
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>>1537073
True.
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>>1537065
See >>1533428
>I have some design ideas, but what I would need is a robotics facility. Draining and repairing the Magnetohydraulics Plant, restoring the X-13 and the X-8 facilities will allow me to do this."

>Once we have the vending machine tech, how are we going to use it? Backbone of or assisting our industry? Are we going to develop it towards being more efficient? Able to do larger things?
I had this argument before, i want the Vending machines to assist our industry but to also be the backbone of a National industry which we'll use in emergencies and for expansion.

>As to big mt science. Will we reinstate the use of human test subjects? Will we continue the pre-war projects or start new ones? Will we even have access to the resources to make use of them?
>Implying we won't do all the SCIENCE!(Except the human experimentation)

>As to expansion, where? Into the Legion? The NCR? The divide? Aggressively, passively or covertly? Will we build towns? Military outposts? Will people live there or will it just be to get resources and technology for our city?
I dunno.
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>>1537108
>>I have some design ideas, but what I would need is a robotics facility. Draining and repairing the Magnetohydraulics Plant, restoring the X-13 and the X-8 facilities will allow me to do this."
Still need to secure the resources for the robots.

>I had this argument before, i want the Vending machines to assist our industry but to also be the backbone of a National industry which we'll use in emergencies and for expansion.
That fails to answer the second set of questions but I suppose it will do.

>>Implying we won't do all the SCIENCE!(Except the human experimentation)
That is sufficient I suppose.

>I dunno.
Then think about it. I have already figured out plans for expansion into the divide and the Legion.
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>>1537130
expanding east would probably be easiest. Abandoned resources once we stop the divide storms, and once we hit the mojave we become liberators, which is a big plus when trying to recruit settlers.
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>>1537159
I don't plan on stopping the divide's storms.


I plan on constructing vault like bases throughout the region and merely letting the surface continue being difficult to travel through.

This will protect us from Legion or NCR attacks without compromising the lives of our people.
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>>1536987
>>1537159
>>1537183
But the storms are generated by the BigMT, aren't they? Couldn't we try controlling it to create a natural disaster-tier weapon of the C-Finder?
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>>1537183
Well, not immediately, but when we start to expand. Also the storms are to our east and die down before they reach us.
They don't protect us from the NCR, just the fact everyone who went to the mountain got lobotomized.

And i want the stop the storms when we start expanding east. As they stand, they do block the legion, but they would also hurt any troops or supplies we try to send East.
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>>1537190
Too imprecise seeing as we don't want to kill everyone in our path. However...if we could make them rise out of nowhere we could use it to eliminate NCR or Legion attacks...
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>>1537130

>Implying we won't do all the SCIENCE!(Except the human experimentation)

>Implying we shouldn't use any of the Legion guinea pigs for new weaponry
>Implying Moore doesn't deserve to be picked apart and tested over and over
>Implying we shouldn't have the Omertas be punished for gassing the Strip

It's like you think they don't deserve it. As for the Divide, what the hell are we gonna do about the tunnlers, marked men and deathclaws?

And, I got a feeling that the kid Unity will have is going to be a Tzimice. And I will shed tears of joy when he/she is making a living cathedral of flesh our of legionaries.
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>>1537218
The legion are people, just brainwashed and confused. If we can take them prisoner and break their indoctrination, then we can get them on our side.
The omerta's should be punished, but human experimentation is kinda excessive. Public executions would be better.
And why moore? She always seemed like just another military leader, if a bit hawkish.
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>>1537213
I mean they protect people in that region from attacks by those two sides.

As to them hurting troops moving through, why not just build a bunch of tunnels? Seriously just build a giant excavator robot.


>>1537218
Human testing is something we can debate later.

As to the plan for the:
>Tunnellers
Fire, fire and explosives.

>marked men
Snipers can eliminate most of them at range. The rest can be eliminated by use of robots.

>death-claws
King "best friend" of the intelligent death-claws would like more citizens I assume.
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>>1537259

The only good people in the Legion are the slaves and maybe the guy that replaces Vulpes when he dies. The rest are slavering, torturing, raping, maybe canibalistic assholes that need to suffer.

So long as it's execution by gas chamber I'll be happy to execute the Omertas.

Moore's just a glory hound bitch who's idea of dealing with other factions is killing them all and fuck the consequences, ended up getting one of the good people of the NCR to get replaced, and she gets off with all of her dickery not only scot free but rewarded.

Hanlon is a tired old man that can be sympathized with, Oliver is entertaining and would be someone who'd be a guy to drink with, Moore is a dyke that needs to suffer.

>>1537305

I was thinking that if at all possible, maybe use the tunnelers as a weapon in it's own right. Marked men can be wiped out. And I forgot about best friend, he would need more subjects.

And maybe as a sort of gesture, when we're fixing the place up. We promote Ulysses as the mayor of the place, it won't be the Divide like it became. It'll be Hopeville once again.
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>>1537396
You seem to be projecting at least a little on Moore. She's a hardline warhawk, but most of her decisions are not pure bloodthirst. The Brotherhood have historically been enemies of the NCR- they irradiated the NCR gold supplies- the Khans are raiders who have now proven to be okay with destruction if it bloodies the NCR's nose, and the Kings were engaging in violence with NCR citizens and soldiers.
She's kinda a dick, but not legion tier dick, deserving anywhere near the same fate.
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>>1536665
Construction has begun on the Chemical Mill, based on some Chinese designs, having learned from the mistakes of the past, and is proceeding at pace. A few more actions and at this rate it will be up and running.

Meanwhile, your best and brightest begin analysis of the Biological research station and how it works. Only a handful of people seem to have a grasp on it, namely Gabriel Sanchez, Veronica and Arcade. Gabriel's Brain is of most useful help here, itself being tutored by your own Brain.

Progress is going swimmingly at least.

Meanwhile, the Securitrons can't seem to find the source of earthquakes or what caused the power outage.

Strangely though, the Think Tank report a 100% increase in power output since the earthquake. The securitron's do find a. . .boy. You recognize him, it's the forecaster. He's wearing an odd striped shirt and holding a clean Cosmic knife in his hand and greets you with a smile.

"There won't be anymore problems with what's underneath the mountain for a long time. I've dealt with it, for now."

He refuses to extrapolate any further.
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Now we just need the steel and concrete production facilities up and we can start rebuilding in old world grade structures.
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>>1537505
Your not sure how to feel about this. This has never happened to you before. You've survived the Sierra Madre (twice), fought your way through an alien spaceship. But being a father is completely foreign to you.

You are with Unity in a special containment room. Unity tells you not to worry about infection, if strains of the FEV were transmissible by blood and mucus you'd have become a super mutant by the first Supermutant you gutted or just having made love to her.

Still you make sure anything left on the floor and bed will be incinerated later on.

Unity is very, calm about all this. Her heart is racing and body reacting, but she's very composed. "Am I excited? Yes and no. I've never done this before. And yet, I have done this before, lots of times."

You're not sure whether you're holding her hand to comfort her, or yourself.

---

>Auto-Doc
"Congratulations son, it's a- . .a. . .I don't know. . ."

Okay, yes you weren't very prepared what just happened, but at the same time you are at least vaguely familiar with the process of a human birth. But what you're staring at before you, nothing could have prepared you.

Unity is nursing. . .it. It writhes. It squirms. It wriggles and moves. It's about the most alien thing you've ever seen. She grasps it tenderly in her arms feeding it on her chest, coo'ing smiling, while you are scrambling to understand just what to feel exactly.

>What do?
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>>1537619
And you're sure that its alright? not suffering in any way?
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>>1537619
>Pet it

Ohboy.
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>>1537619
"I am now a father.

I would usually begin drinking right now but I don't think we have enough alcohol by volume or concentration for this.


Just a question, your people are going to take care of this, right? Because as accepting as I believe my people are I think knowing I am the father of...is it a boy or a girl? Besides the point, I am certain they wouldn't approve by any means."
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>>1537672
It should be raised by its people. Those who understand and can care for it. In Baker, far from here.
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Rolled 16 (1d100)

Initially I was going to make this a dialogue vote so you guys could choose your words wisely, but I suppose initial reactions are probably the most accurate.
>>1537630
>>1537646
>>1537672
Writing
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>>1537685
...that roll can't be good.
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>>1537619

Not sure if I should laugh at the Doc's reaction or cringe in horror of our.....child.

>>1537685

This is gonna be bad isn't it?
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>>1537630
"No, they aren't. I would have made sure of it if that were a chance."
>>1537646
Unity watches you pet it, tentatively. She just continues hugging and holding it like a baby.
>>1537672
"If you're certain your own nation won't approve of our child, then yes, I will take him and myself to Baker and begone."

You notice a flicker of sadness on her face.

"I will return there to raise them myself, out of sight of your 'people' if that's what you want. As for gender. . they've not decided yet what they want to be, and as you can see, there aren't any obvious organs for it.

Are you familiar with the phrase Tabula Rasa? When we are born into Unity, that's what we are. A blank slate, learning by experience and example, developing character and identity.

I can't prove it. But I also feel this one is special. Much more than the others. And I know its not just because its mine. I know it because I can feel their thoughts, they can hear our voices."

It does something between a burp or a fart and squirts on her patient gown, a Mr. Orderly wipes it up.
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>>1537787
no, don't. They're just the people. The only thing that matters is whats best for the child, and what you want, and what I want.
That was just expressing concerns, like asking if it would be okay. Its all very new to me
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>>1537787
you can stay, I just worry that the others here won't be accepting. Atleast the civilians. my friends will love it or atleast tolerate it.
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>>1537803
>>1537816
"And what is it you want, Courier? Be honest."
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>>1537850
yes
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>>1537850

>"It is."
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>>1537850
"I want to have a family. I want to raise a people. Objectively speaking, it would help more people directly to send you away and focus entirely on my work as a leader. Subjectively...I'm terrified of the child, and not because of its inhuman nature. But I've never been one to run from fear.

So you could say I'm somewhat torn on the issue. I'm so used to having my cake and eating it, too. I...don't know what to do."
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>>1537850
>Stay, It'll be fine...hopefully and I know you can handle yourself. What will the child..need?
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>>1537850
"I want a world for my children and friends where disease, famine and raiders are a thing you see in films or read about in a history book. I want a world where I can relax and I don't have to defeat things like the Legion or stop nuclear launches from the divide and all that sort of thing.


I want...peace and prosperity for those I care about and I know that I can't offer those things here yet but I know your settlement is better set up, more prepared, more...stable. At least for now. Anyhow, it's only the physical form which will leave, you will still be able to communicate with it and through you I can too.


Plus, if you are right about it being different then I'll need to keep a close eye on it. If it is going to turn out to be some sort of messiah or next evolution of human and unity, then we should be careful it doesn't turn away from those we would want it to help and protect."
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>>1537919
>Plus, if you are right about it being different then I'll need to keep a close eye on it. If it is going to turn out to be some sort of messiah or next evolution of human and unity, then we should be careful it doesn't turn away from those we would want it to help and protect."
What does this mean exactly?
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>>1537931
Y'know like the stories where there's an ugly deformed monster, but then in the end it sheds its old form and emerges as a beautiful angel with phenomenal powers and all because one person showed it compassion rather than hate.
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>>1537931
If it stays here and is rejected by the people, it may grow to hate them or at the very least have problems with them. We must be careful in how we raise it to avoid it becoming...evil isn't what I mean but it is the only word I can think of. Misguided maybe?


If it stronger than either us or unity then chances are we can't realistically beat it. Once it understands its powers fully.

Plus, it means that we are somehow different from the rest of humanity's genetics if it is different.
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>>1537958
The baby is a combination of super dilluted FEV and irradiated human genes.
Only time will tell just how different it is from humanity at large.
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>>1537963
also not to mention all the genetic abnormalities we probably have from all the modifications in our body.
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>>1537963
super diluted, but it gestated in it for some time. That's going to be important seeing how much cell division is going on at the time.
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>>1537963
Except she said it was different from every other child borne out of unity.


All of these were born from FEV and irradiated humans. Specifically wastelanders turned ghouls.


However, this child is born from a pre-war, non-irradiated human effected by FEV and a post-war "superhuman" with more implants than fingers.


God knows how it is going to turn out but I wouldn't be surprised if it achieves the original purpose of FEV entirely. A new, better, human.
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>>1537619
It's.... It's beautiful...
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>>1537977
How would we even observe that sort of thing? Would we give a sample to Dr. Dala?
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>>1537991
No it ain't.
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>>1537991
It's a newly born child.
I don't know if you've ever seen one of those, but "beautiful" isn't a word anybody in the room would use to describe it.
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>>1537619
Put it out of it's misery.
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>>1537994
Unity keeps an eye on it, the auto-doc keeps an eye on it. One of our medicinally inclined companions can help.
Giving bits of the child to the Think Tank sounds like a terrible idea to be honest.
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>>1538004
Only like a small sample. Like dead skin or a hair or something.
If they start asking where we got it, we'll just say we found it sealed in a destroyed vault.
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>>1538009
No bits are going to the think tank.
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>>1538011
FIIIINNE.
We should at least get Mobious and our brain on observation.
We should also see if there's a qualified pediatrician around.
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>>1538019
Son, no pediatrician is going to know what to do with this. Uncharted territory. If a doctor looks at it, they'd diagnose it as one of those tumors which grow teeth.
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What are Unity's SPECIAL score's anyhow?
I mean with the body that's our baby momma.
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>>1538028
Okay what about an expert evolutionary biologist?
We got any of those?
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>>1538030
She registers as 10 on all stats on the Auto-Docs vitomatic function.
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>>1538041
Even charisma and luck?
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>>1538049
Yes
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>>1538053
Dang. No wonder we hit that.
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>>1538059
So this raises the question: what stats does our child have?


Think about it, we achieve 10 in all stats naturally and then she enhances it even further with FEV!
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>>1538041
I'm surprised it didn't read error or undefined or anything like that.
>>1538040
Even if we do, I would prefer playing this close to the chest for now. only our trusted companions. Probably Doc Henry. He was a scientist that did evolutionary stuff.
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>>1538062
Agreed, we mention it to those we trust and never to Arcade. The cunt would just judge us.
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>>1538069
I think he'd be more the sort to judge us if we sent it away.
All "It may not look like you'd expect, but you still played a part in it, and should take responsibility, blah blah blah.."
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>>1538081
Knowing him he would find a problem with our behavior either way.
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>>1537869
"I'm not asking you to choose between family and country. I always thought those two went hand in hand."
>>1537880
"A father, preferably. I know you have to be on long missions at a time, but at least come to visit every now and then while you're at BigMT. I'd like that. The rest, I can handle myself.

I'll be honest. I feel like before I can get your people to tolerate unity, I feel like I'd want you to tolerate your child."
>>1537919
"I don't know if I've told you this before, but as much as we are all one with Unity, it's still the body we are tied to that give us our strongest view of the world."

---

Anyway, CHOOSE:
>Tell Unity you'd feel it best if she stayed here at the SINK, you really feel you should own up to this rather than send your own child away, despite risks and qualms. How could anyone accept Unity, if you can't even accept your own child?
>Tell Unity it's best they be at Baker, its simply the more preferable choice all things considered, and at least there's the rest of Unity there to raise them
>Other?
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>>1538094
>Tell Unity you'd feel it best if she stayed here at the SINK, you really feel you should own up to this rather than send your own child away, despite risks and qualms. How could anyone accept Unity, if you can't even accept your own child?
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>>1537997
>>1538001

Don't you guys be talking shit about my kid.

(but seriously don't say anything negative to unity. She/it is a mother and right now her child is the most beautiful thing in the world which she loves most than anything)
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>>1538092
maybe. But Oreno is going to be irked.I imagine he won't like the presidential child being an FEV tumor.
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>>1538094
>>Tell Unity you'd feel it best if she stayed here at the SINK, you really feel you should own up to this rather than send your own child away, despite risks and qualms. How could anyone accept Unity, if you can't even accept your own child?
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>>1538094
>Tell Unity you'd feel it best if she stayed here at the SINK, you really feel you should own up to this rather than send your own child away, despite risks and qualms. How could anyone accept Unity, if you can't even accept your own child?
Is it a boy or a girl?
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>>1538094
Anyway, CHOOSE:
>Tell Unity you'd feel it best if she stayed here at the SINK, you really feel you should own up to this rather than send your own child away, despite risks and qualms. How could anyone accept Unity, if you can't even accept your own child?
Do we get to name it? does it have a gender?
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>>1538101
It's our kid and we are definitely gonna be a great dad, but you can't deny newborns are downright ugly for a while.
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>>1538107
>>1538109
Unity says they make their own names sometime later when they reach a level of maturity close to childhood, but you can name it now if you want.
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>>1538125
I can't really name if I don't know what gender it is. Traditions and all that.
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>>1538112
Yeah but we shouldn't have said that to unity. As it grows up it will probably learn to take a human form.
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>>1538137
I thought it was human? Is it actually a ball of hard to describe flesh and limbs right now?
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>>1538135
There are unisex names, just look them up
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>>1538151
Yes. Yes it is.
>>1538153
Sam? Jamie? Lee? Alex? Taylor?
Im prefering sam, which we could claim is after Sam Adams.
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>>1538098
>>1538106
>>1538107
You tell Unity to stay, and she nods, looking happier and caring for the child.

You think back at what you said, how you feel about all this, you're still not entirely sure. You just hope you're doing the right thing.

Unity will remember this

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Meanwhile, you hear that Christine has arrived. As well you are wel enough to talk to your brain again. Do you have anything to say?
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>>1538175
We could go for a Latin name. Since Latin is posh as shit and also beautiful.
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>>1538178
Ask the brain about how to get rid of Elijah, i guess.
>>1538183
yeah, but those often come with gendered suffixes, and we don't want to pigeon hole our androgynous mass.
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>>1538183
Why not Tabula Rasa?
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>>1538204
Dude just pick whatever sounds good
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>>1538175
Doubt keep who Sam Adams is but that works just fine.
>>1538178
Let's talk to Christine. Ask her what happened to her and Sierra Madre after we left
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>>1538178
First we have to make sure she's really Christine.
"What did Ulysses say to you when you were in Big MT?"
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>>1538178
How does Unity feel about the name "Sam"?
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>>1538250
ohboy, We ME:A now.
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>>1538268
The people here don't have dead, soulless eyes and fucked up body physics, so we're fine.
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>>1538271
No but they have plastic looking skin and like 4 different voices among the entire population. Other than our companions.
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>>1538204
>Brain
"I have to say, what you attempted back there was absurdly reckless, and that's even coming from you. From what I can tell, Ulysses has managed to unlock the one thing I had hoped we could use for our benefit. The Vending Machines. With time and that amount of resources and a mind like his, he must have fortifid himself extensiely. I don't think a 3rd failed saboteur attempt is warranted.

What I think is. . .we're going to have to work on our own army. And fast. I dare to say, but this may be one of the situations where using those Divie nuclear armaments may be warranted."

>>1538237
>Ghost Person
"We had a conversation about technology. The Brotherhood, the NCR, the Legion. Then after he came back from the Think Tank, he told me where Elijah was headed to the Sierra Madre. This was before you rescued me. I'm guessing from all the Commonwealth Flags and . . .whatever you are doing here in the Big Empty you met him already."

>>1538250
>Unity
"Sam. . .I like that. Is that what you want to name it?"
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>>1538319
>Ulysses
QM you gettin your DLC mixed up
Also yeah I wanna name the child "Sam".
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>>1538268

Are you sure the people of Unity aren't The Many?

>>1538319

Hm, seems to be Chrsitine. Ask her what happened after we left the Sierra Madre
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>>1538319
Not Sam, We will name it later.

Also Ask the ghost person if she wants to meet Verocia or w.e.
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>>1538319
"What happened after i left, how did Elijah escape the Vault?"
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>>1538319
Ask her to read something. Like a page from our bible.
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>>1538328
He obviously meant Elijah
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>>1538341
Duh. I'm just giving him guff for typos.
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>>1538328

There's a spot called Ulysses Point in Old World Blues. There you can find a holotape with him and Christine talking about what QM mentioned. Understood?
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>>1538346
the first part about Ulysses unlocking the vending machines.
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>>1538346
>From what I can tell, Ulysses has managed to unlock the one thing I had hoped we could use for our benefit. The Vending Machines.
I'm not talking about Ulysses Point, I'm talking about using Ulysses name where it should be Elijah.
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>>1538340
Why?
>>1538346
Dude.
>From what I can tell, Ulysses has managed to unlock the one thing I had hoped we could use for our benefit. The Vending Machines.
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>>1538359
further testing?
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>>1538362
Nah, not needed.
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>>1538354
>>1538359

My bad, just a stuffed up head fucking with my thinking.
>>
By the way, did you guys know the Courier can read Chinese for some reason?
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Chinese_Army:_Special_Ops_Training_Manual_(Fallout:_New_Vegas)
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>>1538370
Cold or allergies?
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>>1538373
I assume there might have been some US army manuals about Chinese left over from the war.
Like for code-breaking and espionage shit.
That or some Chinese ghouls were running around the US after the war.
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>>1538381
no they're apparently given to chinese infiltrators, and the cover has chiinese text.
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>>1538375

More than likely allergies, pretty bad. I'm getting that feeling whenever it's like you're about to sneeze but don't. Plus headaches
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>>1538397
I'm talking about hypothetical manuals given out by the US army, not the obviously Chinese-in-origin spec-ops manuals.
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>>1538403
Motrin and plenty of fluids. Anything but soda and milk. Ideally water or orange juice.
Also give your eyes and ears a rest.
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>>1538373
How many damn languages does the courier know?
>An intelligent Courier is able to understand and speak fluent Latin, as during Silus Treatment, the Courier can deceive Silus into thinking that they are a Legion assassin by speaking Latin phrases. However, the Courier's knowledge of the language may actually be limited as they do not understand one of Arcade Gannon's Latin phrases.
>Dialogue with Raul shows that the Courier has at least a passing knowledge of Spanish.

Here's a fun fact, after hoover damn the Courier returns to Big MT.
>It is stated in the endings for Old World Blues, that in the years following the Second Battle of Hoover Dam that the Courier returned to Big MT and watched over it, keeping a close eye over the sciences and goings on of the facility while gradually reintroducing sciences both forgotten and new back into the Wasteland as needed.
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>>1538328
*Elijah
>>1538329
>Ghost Person
"Dog, Dean, and I considered waiting for you at the fountain, but you never came. The two of them left for the Mojave. I stayed, thought I should try and warn anyone else that wanted to try and enter the Sierra Madre safe. Managed to get the Ghost Peron's to tolerate me. Its a lot easier to study their behavior when you aren't compelled to kill the due to a bomb around your neck. Every now and then I had to go out to get supplies.I heard about you, how you that you went off to face Ulyssess in the Divide. Didn't know what happened after that.

Next thing I know when I come back, I see holograms herding the ghost people like cattle and robots everywhere, constructing things and carrying away all the vending machines they could find. They spotted me, I had to go into hiding.

I've . . .had to make some more sacrifices to stay hidden from Elijah's machines."

>>1538330
". . .no, I don't want Veronica to see me right now."

Huh, you had asked that because Veronica was a member of the Brotherhood. But from the tone of her voice it almost felt like there was something else. You want to ask further, but you get the feeling she won't give an answer and don't press it.
>>1538334
"I don't know. However he did it, he's been acting entirely through his machines. He's taken over much of the Sierra Madre's electronic systems. I haven't seen him in person though. His robots are always building things, they're getting supplies from somewhere, but it's almost like they're getting them out of thin air. I don't see them going out to scavenge at all."
>>1538340
". . ."
>You
[You feel Christine glaring at you behind her green visors]
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>>1538436
>"I don't know. However he did it, he's been acting entirely through his machines. He's taken over much of the Sierra Madre's electronic systems. I haven't seen him in person though. His robots are always building things, they're getting supplies from somewhere, but it's almost like they're getting them out of thin air. I don't see them going out to scavenge at all."

The cloud is somewhat radioactive. Could it be used to power / supply the replicators? It would explain where he is getting the materials to feed them seeing as the casino has a limited amount of chips...
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>>1538436
>Tell her that Elijah might have rewired the stolen Vending Machines to make weapons and supplies.
>Ask if she knows where they might have put all the vending machines.
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>>1538416

Danke anon

>>1538436

>"Did Dog or Dean say where they were going before they left?"
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>>1538436
just checking. So what can you tell us about the Madre and Elijah's army? any weak points, any holes in his inexplicaple watchful gaze?
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>>1538436
>[You feel Christine glaring at you behind her green visors]
God dammit why must every dialogue write-in be accepted?
"Do you know where he put the Vending machines? Or what he's done to the hologram emitters?"
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>>1538442
"I've seen them gather all the chips they could find. There's a lot more we all missed, more than I can even count. Still, it doesn't explain how he manages to build everything.

But then maybe I was too busy trying to survive and hide to notice his bots decide to go out and scavenge while I'm not looking."
>>1538446
"That would explain where he's getting all his equipment. I'm not sure, after I saw them carry the vending machinse into the casino the next thing I notice is the sound of robots welding metal inside.

I notice new equipment seems to come from some barracks he's built for the ghosts."
>>1538449
"Dog said nothing. Dean said he'd go and try his fortunes in 'Las Vegas'."
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>>1538459
"He's taken them over that's for sure. When he's not going out on his balcony to glow like some ancient God and shout at the Ghost People through the intercom, he's having them march around and lead the ghost people to do their bidding. I think he was watching me walk among them and their behavior."
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>>1538469
>Dean went to Vegas
Aw shit
>>1538469
>Asks if it's possible to sneak into the barracks.
>Let her in on our current operation to disable Elijah's army.
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>>1538469
>robots welding metal inside.
Okay so we aren't getting those without a fight or a big explosion.

>I notice new equipment seems to come from some barracks he's built for the ghosts."
Makes sense he would leave one or two outside, we might be able to grab those and run without him stopping us.

>"Dog said nothing. Dean said he'd go and try his fortunes in 'Las Vegas'."
"Then there is a good chance he is dead but I will go and check as soon as possible"


Operation save Dean from Legion is a go.
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>>1538469
>>1538476
"Do you know of any place we could destroy or sabotage to slow him down?"
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>>1538481
Who knows? Maybe the Legion appreciates his songs so much he's Caesar's personal entertainer now?
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>>1538477
>>1538481

He better be alive, if not then I propose we keep the Legion alive. Only for this reason:

They're gifts for the Think Tank. They can go nuts on them.

And when we invade, we turn Vegas into their very own personal Nanking
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>>1538514
>Vegas into their very own personal Nanking
Without all the rape and whatnot, right?
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>>1538477
"Not the way you were doing it, that's for sure, and as far as I'm aware, not at all. Elijah is insane and paranoid, but he's brilliant at using this to plan for everything. That's how he lopped us into those bomb collars.

And what operation might that be? I heard from the followers you disabled some nuclear weapons. I'd wonder if this is a good reason to re-enale them."

Anymore quetions? Otherwise I'll do the turn update
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>>1538516
Of course not.
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>>1538514
Nanking is not zsomething to be replicated, by anyone. And a number of the legion are conscripts who are trying to survive as much as anyone else. They are not all automatically irredemable.
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>>1538521
>I heard from the followers you disabled some nuclear weapons.
And what if Elijah has Anti-nuke defenses?
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>>1538521
Do you know of any weak points, or blind spots in his security?
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>>1538488
"Not at all. I don't even know what's down there in the Vault right now. Whatever it it is it's behind a massive army of ghosts and holograms and reinforced metal and concrete walls.

Oh, and the Cloud."
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>>1538521
>We would rearm the warheads, but we want to get those vending machines out first if at all possible.
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>>1538533
"Then you need to think of some other way to smash him, preerably with something very big and powerful."
>>1538535
"I survived by pretending to be a ghost.

. . .unfortunately, it stopped being 'pretend' some time ago. Even then it's been getting harder. He's doing something to the Ghost people's brains, but I don't know what. You seen any of his armored officers walking around? They weren't acting like normal Ghost at all."
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Quick question QM, is the meteorological station in range of the Sierra madre? Or is at least in range between the Sierra madre and the Mojave?
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>>1538550
The Divide Storms do not reach the Sierra Madre, and you are not even aware if the Meteorological statoin is actively playin a part in that or if its a permanent facet of the place.
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>>1538549
we do have a giant robo scorpion apparently. That could be our battering ram.
And i'm sorry. Maybe after this all done, we can fix you up.
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>>1538526

>Legionaries
>Just trying to survive
>Rape, crucifixion and torture are a pass time
>Not all automatically irredemable

It's like you want me to feel sympathy for them. Only good things to come out of the Legion were Joshua, Ulysses, and the New Vegas colosseum. They're scum that need to be wiped out

>>1538516

Not rape, just body horror and driving them insane with white noise. And feeding them to a new animalistic horror Borous would cook up

>>1538549

>"What do you mean by that?"

>>1538578

What do we need? Our very own Liberty Prime, five years ago
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>>1538570
We're going to have to investigate that as soon as possible, if we can trap the cloud and prevent it from moving we have defeated Elijah's plan.
These should be our next actions.
>Attack the Sierra madre with the stealth team, use a false flag on the Casino to draw Ghost people away so we can go in and take the Vending Machines.
>Use the Meteorogical station to prevent the cloud from spreading out of the Sierra madre.
>Get the robot army up and running as soon as possible.
>Make a agent capable of neutralizing the cloud.
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>>1538585
remember the legions history.
They get approached with an offer to join something big, which would give them the strength to defeat their enemies. And then they're families are broken apart and the boys are conscripted and the women are enslaved, and the feeble are killed.
Im sure many reveled in the legion's misdeeds, but im also sure many just wanted to survive.
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>>1538578
What about the Chinese tanks? They could work.
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>>1538578
"A battering ram better have a big enough army behind it."
>>1538585
"Elijah isn't going to be defeated by some plucky team going in and kiling him with his guard down. He's got a lot of technology and paranoia, he might as well literally have eyes on the back of his head."
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>>1538585

And in the case of Joshua, he wasn't even born into it. I should really thank New Canaan...oh wait, it's GONE. Why? Because Caesar's nothing but a petty and spiteful cunt.

>>1538600

The slaves can be saved, but for the rest? An ultimatum:

"Give up and reform, or you will know the true meaning of suffering."

The last moments of the Legions history will be three words: Failure, humiliation, and suffering.

>>1538616

>"Well, I better attack from bellow then."
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>>1538612
>>1538616
Im not suggesting sending only the scorpion in, but to accompany them with ground troops and armour. It would just be the thing that deals the most damage.
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Quick question, where's the Ghost's barracks?
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Hey QM, can we reverse engineer the Sierra madre Machines we have now? I recall we have 2.
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>>1538646
>Christine
"I know where they are, on the ground level of the actual Casino area. Not the Villa."
>>1538681
You can, you would just decidedly be without half or all of your vending machien capability for emergency uses
>>
Anyway, writing turn updat. Feel free to talk to Christine or Brain or Unity some more.
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>>1538706
Alright then, first we spend all the remaining radioactive metal we have to stock up, then we reverse engineer the Machines.
Let's do the turn update.
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>>1538716
To brain
>Would you recommend taking apart one of our vending machines to reverse engineer the technology right now?
>>
Someone should make some art so we can get a boon to spend on reverse engineering the sierra madre machines.
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TO DO LIST/SUGGESTIONS/ETC.

Think Tank Gifts

>Replicator
Level 1 Vending Machine Optoins {unlocks additional replication options} [ ] (needs Needs Repaired Y-0 Research Center Lv1)
Level 1 Vending Machine Bigger {makes more} [ ] (needs Needs Repaired Y-0 Research Center Lv1)
Repaired Y-0 Research Center Lv1 [X] (Needs Repaired Construction Bots [X] Needs Repaired Facility [X] Needs Additional Vending Machines [X])

>Unity
Clean Unity Food [ ] (needs FEV Research)
Unity Webbing [ ] (needs FEV Research)
FEV Research Lv1 [ ] FEV Research A proper FEV Lab. Needs Prime Human Subjects)
A proper FEV Lab [ ]
Prime/Untainted Human Subjects [ ] (Needs to convince Chinese Volunteers

>Brain
Reverse Engineer Biological research station [--] (IN PROGRESS)
Reverse Engineer Sierra Madre Machine [ ] (needs more Sierra Madre Machines)
Investigate the Construction Zone for its Vehicles and Construction Bots [X]

>Riddick
Get a Vehicle Garage [X]

>Hexcrete Plant
Small Cement/Concrete Mill [ ] (Needs Chinese War Factory. Needs Small Chemical Mill. Needs Limestone and Quartz and Gypsum Mine. Needs Repaired Construction Bots. Needs Repaired Construction Vehicles)
Small Chemical Mill [--] (IN PROGRESS)
Repaired Construction Vehicles [ ] (Needs Chinese War Factory. Needs Vehicle Fuel.
Chinese War Factory [X]

>Old World Fabric
Old World Textile Plant. (Needs Cotton. Needs Nylon)
Nylon (Needs Small Chemical Mill. Needs Charcoal [ ])
Cotton [X] OR Hemp [X]

>Salient Green
Salient Green [ ] (Needs Banana Yucca)
Bigger Biological Research Station [ ] (Needs Reverse Engineer Biological research station)
Banana Yucca [X]

>Possible Luxuries (Not a complete List)
Alcohol [ ] (Needs Bigger Biological Research Station)
Bar [ ] (Needs Building Materials. Needs Alcohol.)
Better Public Baths [ ] (Needs Building Materials)

>Other
Repaired Construction Bots [X]
Vehicle Fuel [ ] (Needs Small Fuel Mill. Needs Salient Green)
Small Fuel Mill [ ] (Needs Chinese War Factory)
Cement Mines (Limestone [ ] Quartz/Gypsum [ ])
Charcoal [ ] (Needs Lumbermill)
Lumbermill [ ] (Needs Wood)
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Rolled 12 (1d100)

>>>>>Food: Below Average (Stable)
>>>>>Water: Above Average
>>>>>Medicine: Critical (Stable)
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Wood (tiny) Scrap Metal (Moderate) Electronics (Moderate) Hygiene Supplies (Abundant) Booze (Plentiful)
>>>>>Fuel: Airplane Fuel (Below Average)
>>>>>Total Pop: 320 Humans (and companions) +40 Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Total Armaments (proportionate to the total pop) Below Average
>>>>>>Weapons: Type (Subtype, Amount, Condition)
-Conventional Melee Weapons (Legion; Moderate, Pristine)
-Conventional Firearms (Legion; Moderate, Pristine) (Mercenary, Above Moderate, Intact)
-Energy Firearms (Human Plasma, Moderate, Intact) (Human Laser, Moderate, Intact)
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional (Below Average) Energy (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor/Uniorms:
(Salvaged Legion, Moderate, Pristine)
(Legion Centurion. Tiny, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Armor, Moderate, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Uniforms, Moderate, Intact)

Rollan for reasons.

--

!Alert!
There are no more new cases of Typhus. Those affected by Typhus should recover, and some are returning to work the fields. However medicine is dangerously low.
>>
---THE CRATER---
>>>>>Morale: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
107 Human
>>>>>Garrison:
6 Devils Brigade - Power Armor
19 Couriers Companions - Arcade, Doc Delilah, Willow, Ares, Cass, Raul, Veronica, ED-E, Rusty, Wendy Gilbert, Hazel, Desmond Harper, Vanessa, Joana, AXE MAN, Milton+Hans, Sonia, Riddick
200 Securitrons MK2
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
576 Robo Scorpions
>>>>>Prisoner: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Higgs Village Warehouse [6 Intact Homes w/{Toilets, Air Condition}, Indoor living area. Raul’s Shack. Follower Hospital.). 5 Box Cars. Latrines. Plumbing Water. Heated Water. Indoor Ventilation. The DOME. The SINK (BigMT Command Center. The THINK TANK). The FORBIDDEN ZONE. Barracks/Training Ground. (Average). Lobotomite Pleasure House (Primitive). Constrution Site (Small). Y-0 Research Center. Scrap Performance Stage. X-2 Transmitter Array. Hemp Farm (Growing eta ???-7/Turns)
Chinese War Factory
>>>>>Defenses: Radar Fence/Mountain Range. Laser Turrets (Few). Watch Towers.
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Riddick’s Charge Co. Dodger 5 Bulldozers (Ruined) 1 Giant Crane (Ruined)
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (HUGE). BigMT Underground Reactors
>>>>>>Other
+The THINK TANK
+Dr. MOBIUS
+Unity
+Julia Farkas
+Arcade Ganon
+30 Allied Followers
+55 Captured Female Lobotomites
+67 Captured Male Lobotomites.
+20 Construction Bots

---THE BOXCARS---
>>>>>Morale: Below Average
>>>>>Armaments: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
213 Human
+40 Super Mutants/Nightkin
!NEW!
>>>>>Garrison:
2 Couriers Companions – Doc Mitchel, Doc Doc Orderly MD PHD DDS
+15 Mr. Orderly Robots
51 Child Soldiers “Freeside Rats”
11 Trained Regular Officers [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
59 Trained Regular Infantry [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
22 Trained Militia [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Veterans}
30 Militia Recruits [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Raw}
+20 Super Mutants
+20 NightKin
400 Securitrons MK2
>>>>>Prisoner: None
!NEW!
>>>>> Infrastructure: 19 Rail Car Homes. 15 Sheet Metal Homes. Latrines. Spring Well. Hazmant Truck Container. Radioactive Liquid Tank. Irradiated Water Tank (85% Intact) Clean Water Tank (Intact). Improved Public Baths. Public Washing Machines.
Banana Yucca Farm (Large)
Cotton Farm (Medium)
Small Chemical Mill (In progress)
>>>>>Defenses: Disease Quarantine Measures (Primitive)
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird, 1 Fuel Economic Semi Truck,
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (Adequate) {Shared from The Crater}. Electrical Poles

>>>>>>Other:
+Marcus
+Keene
+25 Herd Animals (Brahmin/Bighorn)

--

The Courier is now fully healed.

Unity has a crib brought in from Baker, and is sitting by it, reading it children's stories while feeding it often.
>>
>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 45
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>>1539190
>Hero
Go to New Vegas and find Dean Domino.
>Civ
Spend all remaining radioactive scrap metal, equalize Med and Food.
>Repair.
continue constructing the Chemical mill.
>Military.
Build a drainage pipe in the Magnetohydraulics Plant, store the water for later use.
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Rolled 42 (1d100)

>>1539204
Forgot roll.
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>>1539204
Military Actions aren't meant for general construction.
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Rolled 98 (1d100)

>>1539190
>Repair
Begin construction of the Y-0 Research center
>Civ
Begin producing more chips to spend on medicine and food
>Hero
Be a good dad and head to the Divide to search for Ulysses.
>Military
Build a drainage pipe in the Magnetohydraulics Plant, store the water for later use.
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Rolled 13 (1d100)

1539190

>Civ

Reverse engineer the vending machines would be helpful

>Mil

Set up a training doctrine

>Hero

Go to Vegas and find Dean

>Build

Keep going on the chemical mill
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>>1539228
uh change my military action to
>Begin fortifying Boxcar's outer perimeters
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>>1539226
Alright then, change to >>1539238
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Rolled 66 (1d100)

>>1539184
>Hero
Its been a number of weeks or months yeah? go to elijah's bunker and pick up the chip vouchers to be used for supplies
>civ
continue reverse engineering the Bio research station
>repair
continue work on the chem mill
>military
Train some sharpshooters- accuracy is key against ghosts. need to break their externally bits.
>>
Rolled 96 (1d100)

>>1539190
backing this >>1539255
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>>1539204
>>1539249
You know what, change the Military action again to
>Train some sharpshooters- accuracy is key against ghosts. need to break their externally bits.
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>>1539190
Bet my IP changed again. Voting this >>1539255
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>>1539255
Change the Hero action, we have to find Dean.
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>Brain
"So, slight interjection, I realize that without a proper robotics facility the most you can do is train your human forces.

But please don't tell me you've forgotten of the plan we agree'd on, to get a robotic military up and running as soon as possible? Hmmm? Unless you've suddenly had a change of heart.

I should probably add it to your to-do list."
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>>1539290
And do what with him?
He left before shit got bad and I doubt he can get into the Sierra Madre now.
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>>1539290
no we don't.

>>1539294
yes
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>>1539294
Look. After we get our food, medicine, and imminent death cloud problems sorted out, that's when we'll dump resources into a full robotic military.
We just have to get our shit sorted first.
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>>1539290
no we don't Dean's "nice" and all, but he isn't a target of strategic importance. If he's not dead yet then he's likely to have found a nice gig singing for legionaries.
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>>1539299
>>1539301
>>1539313
Fine.
Supporting >>1539255
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>>1539321
link it to Qm you fuck.
>>
Rolled 82 (1d100)

>>1539255
Supporting this.
>>
So it is understood what the plan to deal with Elijah is?


We perform a smash and grab attack with all of our resources and anything we can get quickly. Grabbing as much as we can, replicators being the highest priority, before retreating and deploying the divide's nuclear weapons to eliminate him.
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>>1539935
Nah, we should change our plan cause Elijah could have Anti-nuke defenses.
Here's a better plan >>1538598
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>>1539982
I doubt that even Elijah is so paranoid as to go and make defences against nukes.

Assuming however that plan is more popular we can use it. At least some of it can be salvaged assuming my plan is more popular. Such as the anti-cloud and meteorological station.
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>>1539986
Why develop defenses for something we could prevent right now.
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>>1540004
Because those are parts of the plan that he is suggest is more popular.


Also because learning to use the meteorological station would give us a super-weapon far better than a simple nuke.

Also because we can't stop the cloud forming seemingly and thus should attempt to develop a counter to it of some sorts.
>>
>>1539986
House was, why wouldn't Elijah be?
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>>1540019
I suppose you have a point. The meteorological station is probably our best bet in the long run.
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>>1540024
House did calculations to show a nuclear war was inevitable and had access to the resources of the old world entirely. He would've been a fool in his plans to not prepare to eliminate the nuclear exchange targeting his area.
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>>1539255
LOCKED
might be busy today due to work.
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>>1539255
>>1539273
You manage to get the Vouchers. This will unlock additional chips present within the Vending Machine, although they aren't chips themselves. You also decide to break into Drop Box and pick up whatever chips were being slowly dispensed within.

All in all you gain a lump sum of 8000 Sierra Madre chips.

Vote to spend them as you wish using your next action.

---

Research on the Bio-Research Station is nearly making a breakthrough. They've analyzed the cloning and gene splicing technology present within the biological research station. They only need certain missing puzzle piece components to make a larger version.

To finish a blueprint design for a larger Bio-Research station. They will need ONE of the following:
CHOOSE (in next action)
-The parts to a single Sierra Madre Vendng Machine. This will allow them to develop a basic organic genome replicator.
-An existing clone replicator and splicing module. According to BigMT's records, Vault City may have one but you'll need to go on a long journey there.
-You could spend a boon to design one yourself

---

The Small Chemical Mill is completed! The engineers cheer, as now numerous chemical and plastic products can be made!

---

Before you decide to train a unit of sharpshooters, you consider who and what you want your sharpshooters to be armed with.

CHOOSE:
-Add them to Dandan's existing stealth team.
-Raise some from your own soldie ranks. You suspect you as a hero action will be best suited for this
-The Brain has an idea for some sharpshooter turrets using computer targeting to fire accurately at long range

CHOOSE:
You will arm them with:
-Sniper and/or Anti-Material Rifles
-Design a new kind of energy weapon to manufacture, laser seems suitable
-Investigate alien disintegrator and ray technology? This may be exactly what you need to dismember those ghosts!
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>>>>>Food: Below Average (Stable)
>>>>>Water: Above Average
>>>>>Medicine: Critical (Stable)
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Wood (tiny) Scrap Metal (Below Average) Electronics (Below Average) Hygiene Supplies (Abundant) Booze (Plentiful)
>>>>>Fuel: Airplane Fuel (Low)
>>>>>Total Pop: 320 Humans (and companions) +40 Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Total Armaments (proportionate to the total pop) Below Average
>>>>>>Weapons: Type (Subtype, Amount, Condition)
-Conventional Melee Weapons (Legion; Moderate, Pristine)
-Conventional Firearms (Legion; Moderate, Pristine) (Mercenary, Above Moderate, Intact)
-Energy Firearms (Human Plasma, Moderate, Intact) (Human Laser, Moderate, Intact)
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional (Below Average) Energy (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor/Uniorms:
(Salvaged Legion, Moderate, Pristine)
(Legion Centurion. Tiny, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Armor, Moderate, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Uniforms, Moderate, Intact)

---

Riddick has used the Chinese Factory to repair his Charge Dodger. It's now able to be used! Just needs fuel.

You are currently low on fuel
>>
---THE CRATER---
>>>>>Morale: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
107 Human
>>>>>Garrison:
6 Devils Brigade - Power Armor
19 Couriers Companions - Arcade, Doc Delilah, Willow, Ares, Cass, Raul, Veronica, ED-E, Rusty, Wendy Gilbert, Hazel, Desmond Harper, Vanessa, Joana, AXE MAN, Milton+Hans, Sonia, Riddick
200 Securitrons MK2
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
576 Robo Scorpions
>>>>>Prisoner: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Higgs Village Warehouse [6 Intact Homes w/{Toilets, Air Condition}, Indoor living area. Raul’s Shack. Follower Hospital.). 5 Box Cars. Latrines. Plumbing Water. Heated Water. Indoor Ventilation. The DOME. The SINK (BigMT Command Center. The THINK TANK). The FORBIDDEN ZONE. Barracks/Training Ground. (Average). Lobotomite Pleasure House (Primitive). Constrution Site (Small). Y-0 Research Center. Scrap Performance Stage. X-2 Transmitter Array. Hemp Farm (Growing eta ???-7/Turns)
Chinese War Factory
Small Chemical Mill
>>>>>Defenses: Radar Fence/Mountain Range. Laser Turrets (Few). Watch Towers.
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Riddick’s Charge Co. Dodger 5 Bulldozers (Ruined) 1 Giant Crane (Ruined)
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (HUGE). BigMT Underground Reactors
>>>>>>Other
+The THINK TANK
+Dr. MOBIUS
+Unity
+Julia Farkas
+Arcade Ganon
+30 Allied Followers
+55 Captured Female Lobotomites
+67 Captured Male Lobotomites.
+20 Construction Bots

---THE BOXCARS---
>>>>>Morale: Below Average
>>>>>Armaments: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
213 Human
+40 Super Mutants/Nightkin
!NEW!
>>>>>Garrison:
2 Couriers Companions – Doc Mitchel, Doc Doc Orderly MD PHD DDS
+15 Mr. Orderly Robots
51 Child Soldiers “Freeside Rats”
11 Trained Regular Officers [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
59 Trained Regular Infantry [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
22 Trained Militia [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Veterans}
30 Militia Recruits [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Raw}
+20 Super Mutants
+20 NightKin
400 Securitrons MK2
>>>>>Prisoner: None
!NEW!
>>>>> Infrastructure: 19 Rail Car Homes. 15 Sheet Metal Homes. Latrines. Spring Well. Hazmant Truck Container. Radioactive Liquid Tank. Irradiated Water Tank (85% Intact) Clean Water Tank (Intact). Improved Public Baths. Public Washing Machines.
Banana Yucca Farm (Large)
Cotton Farm (Medium)
Small Chemical Mill (In progress)
>>>>>Defenses: Disease Quarantine Measures (Primitive)
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird, 1 Fuel Economic Semi Truck,
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (Adequate) {Shared from The Crater}. Electrical Poles

>>>>>>Other:
+Marcus
+Keene
+25 Herd Animals (Brahmin/Bighorn)

8000 Sierra Madre Chips
>>
>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 46
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>>1540222
Edit: The Chemical Mill was built in The Crater, not The Boxcars.
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>>1539309
>imminent death cloud problems

>Brain
"As much as Elijah is a threat, I have to say 'immiment' is not the right word for it.

I believe from his history we can expect him to take his time in preparing an attack, if he decides to after your pep talk.

I believe that to attack him prematurely witout every asset to our availability is unwise. It could weaken us dearly in both troop count, Securitrons (which we can't yet replace), and morale if we were to make failed assaults due to lack of sufficient force.

I can't promise it, but i predict it likely we could win the Mojave first and using its resources deal with Elijah, but we definitely need more than what we have now."
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Guess I'm staying up today.
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>>1540217
>vending machine
>raise some sharpshooters yourself.
>alien laser beams.
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>>1540217
>the parts from a vending machine
>raise them from our own ranks
>alien disintegrators

Silly brain turrets cant move and an immobile sniper is a dead sniper.
Also we might need them to participate in offensives, which is hard for turrets. Maybe gun drones could work
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Rolled 41 (1d100)

>>1540224
>the parts from a vending machine
>raise them from our own ranks
>alien disintegrators

Hero action
>Train sharpshooters

Civ action
>Spend 2000 chips to make medicine
>Develop Salient Green from harvest plants

Military action
>Clear the alien spaceship of any threats and scoop up any useful bits

Repair
>Build a drainage pipe in the Magnetohydraulics Plant, store the water for later use.
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>>1540221
Isn't his car nuclear powered?
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Rolled 20 (1d100)

>>1540224
Backing this >>1540348
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>>1540348
>clear threats
can we take on the rape horse now?
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>>1540445
Wait, what? What are you talking about?
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>>1540472
i might have skipped a few parts, i'm talking about the rape machine in the vehicles bay of the alien ship that we had to trap inside since it wrecked us
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Rolled 55 (1d100)

>>1540348
Roll
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What do we tell Unity when we plan to shag other companions
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>>1541197
that we want to spread the love? And there is enough courier for everyone?
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>>1541197
We don't shag other companions?
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>>1541429
What? Yes we do. We shag them all.
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>>1541440
Why?
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>>1541490
why not? its fun.
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>>1541497
No it's not.
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>>1540348
LOCKED

Writing
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We totally shag other companions. It's not often, but it's happened before.
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>>1540348
Breaking apart the Vending Machine to salvage some of its technology the followers (and brains) make a breakthrough. Applying the pieces of the Vending Machine they've figured out how to make more of the biological research stations!

The applications of this are tremendous. Imagine the ability to grow plants from dried seed, anywhere there is soil and water, at 100% success rates! No more farmers praying to the gods above that their seeds germinate or their crops survive. And the applications of Salient green enormous. Even the NCR's Vault City would be jealous.

However, there is a wonder. Would it be more effective to make a bigger one of these things, or make more of them? They decide to do both, putting the brain of the original model into the much larger version and linking it to the newer smaller models.You house the units in the old X-12 research center, however, for some reason you and your scientists just can't get the damn machines to turn on. No matter what you try.

Strangely, BCR and says he knows how to rouse his "people" to action but demands connection to the Light Switch 02 and Blind Diode James. You acquiesce to his request.

>Biological Research Station Mk2
"Aw yeah baby. Ain't gotta force my new people, ya gotta wake em up to the groove of sweet, sweet seedmakin'

Now, give it up for my DJ ol' Blind Diode James, this next piece of sweet music I been workin with him myself. Hit it!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHEsE9yN2CY

The music plays, and Light Switch 02 casts her dark pink glow upon the room as the lights dim. As Blind Diode James music spreads throughout the whole room, you see the other BCR's hum to life and flash with a rainbow of blinking buttons and lights.

>Biological Research Station Mk2
"Wake up my Brothers and Sisters! I hope ya'll are plugged in and buckled down, cause this seedin' party ain't gonna end until the bombs fall."

A chorus of voices join in, almost. . .singing in perfect unison, and the flash of colorful buttons beats in time with the song. You don't know why, but your feet start tapping.

---

You now have a Biological Genome Center, and can now produce Salient Green en masse! In addition your ability to grow farms in the city of BigMT has skyrocketed.
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>>1541920
I sure as shit hope we have a recording of this. We need good music for the party.
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>>1541920
There's a lot of details to be hashed out when it comes to training sharpshooters. Whether you want them to be actual lone individual snipers, or simply dedicated marksmen to be deployed within units. Its a hotly debated topic even in the NCR.

Before any of that however, you need to actually train accurate shooters. So before actually training snipers or marksmen, you and your companions go out and run trials to select the people most familiar with the handling of weapons and guns.

You construct a makeshift shooting range at the Boom Town Target Zone. You select some of your best marksmen such as Cannibal Johnson, Hazel, and Rose of Sharon along with some officer to organize the group and refine their basic rifle handling and ability to pick targets at range.

For now you suspect it would be wise to finalize a version of whatever weapon they truly will be armed with so as to drill and train them in the use of it first.
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>>1541971
So finalize a design for our soldiers' primary weapon? Give me a minute, I'll whip up a neat looking Laser Rifle.
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>>1541971
Raul and some of your other more mechanically minded prepare the pipe and drainage system for the Magneto Hydraulics plant, using the Chinese Factory to forge the necessary parts.

The problem however is that the Magneto Hydraulics plant itself was serving as a reservoir, and there currently isn't another good place to store it. That place didn't have much radiation, and though not ideal for drinking was suitable for farming purposes.

A new water storage plant would be needed to make useable the water. But you have the pipes ready to drain.

>Brain
"I approve of the idea. Draining the Magneto Hydraulics plant will allow msyelf and Dr. 0 to resume BigMT's robotics program."
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Actually how about we make a railgun for our snipers?
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>>1541997
but we want a space rifle. Also i imagine he means having physical versions for the troops.
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>>1542004
>space rifle
Like the alien disintegrators?
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>>1541999
so gauss rifles?
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>>1541998
So we either have to make a water storage or quickly use all that water somewhere.
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>>1542007
>>1542009
>>1542011
>>1542004
>>1541998

Alien weapons as the main. However a sharpshooter is supposed to be able to use any long range weapon without issue.

>>1541998
Can it or bottle it up. WE should surely have enough of those to store water in.
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>>1542011
Well we do have a shit ton of seed to plant now. So why not use the water there?
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WAIT A MOMENT!
Let's make Plasma railguns!(If Alien Blaster uses Plasma)
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>>1542011
We could also revisit that lake idea i had before, dig a hole, fill with water, make a sewage treatment plant and have usable water for a long time.
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While you hand pick marksmen for a group of elite shooters, the Securitron's prepare for military action against the mothership.

It looms overhead, bigger than any structure in BigMT despite its severe damage, and even now the Chinese report its crawling with aliens and who knows what else.

This may very well be the first real test of the Securitron's against what might be a technological equal.

>How many Securitron's do you wish to deploy?
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>>1542036
50, a quarter of our forces.
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>>1542036
100
backed up by some robo scorpions to drain the alien intelligence.( I know that doesn't actually happen)
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>>1542036
100
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>>1542048
supporting
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>>1542021
The alien weapons as far as you are aware, do not use any form of familiar plasma.

Their disintegrator rifles, rather than melt as Plasma would do, literally disintegrate things. Often chunks of metal or rock would simply no longer exist, as if they were carved out, and do not feel even hot to the touch. A critical hit by you does result in an explosion, but that has to do with a special implant perk you have that transform energy weapons into an explosive blast.

The alien blaster seems to fire a much more concentrated version of the stuff, as a concentrate beam rather than a 'blob' of disintegration, but uses the much rarer Alien Power Cells, rather than the more numerous Alien Energy Cells.
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>>1542036
Can we also send in the Courier and some companions with some of those EMP grenades?
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>>1542063
>EMP grenades
>When our main fighting force is robots
Naw
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>>1542057
What happens if you shoot a disintegrator at a large metal object? does it disintigrate chunks where it impacts?
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>>1542063
>Send in the courier
>Whose training the sharpshooters

I'm sorry, What?
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>>1542066
>He want's to lose tons of securitrons to the toy horse.
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>>1542069
That's why i'm asking.
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>>1542071
>Implying the securitron will even approach the toy horse
That's something we're gonna have to take on personally
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>>1542067
It depends on the density. The metal used in Vault Doors, some of the heaviest metals on earth, barely leave a scratch. It is effective against robots and armor though it may take several shots.

It has the benefit against Plasma in that Plasma leaves behind molten metal that reduces the effectiveness of more Plasma Shots, while the disintegrator does not.

>Energy Weapons [100]
The Holorifle has a very similar effect you feel, using holographic digitization to make bits of matter go away in holographic light. Not the same at all, but the effect is comparable.
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>>1542075
pulse gun baby. targeted EM injection at the pull of a trigger.
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>>1542079
but a really big disintigrator would scrub away Vault materials, yeah?
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>>1542087
Hmmm, you consider it. Yes, but you wonder where on earth you're going to get the power for that.
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I'll give you several options for different alien based weapons, of course anon art and designs will be welcome

That is if you succeed.
>>1542043
>>1542048
>>1542051
Anymore votes?
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>>1542103
I'll change to 100 to move things along.
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>writing
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File deleted.
I think I fucked up, but that's for you guys to decide.
Thoughts?
pls no bully
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>>1542295
Now bad, seems more fit for a laser gun than a disintegrator.
Will give bonuses for refined versions of my MSpaint designs once I have them
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>>1542295
have a tweeked version
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>>1542318
pretty lasery. But the disintigrators have a pulpier look to them. Like Flash Gordon
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>>1542336
Well if we're reverse engineering the tech behind the blasters, why would we have to keep all of the alien style aesthetics?
Not that I'm opposed to that style of blaster, but still.
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>>1542343
i guess so. and silver is kinda a terrible colour for sniper rifles
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>>1542369
>>1542343
>>1542317
Don't put bright colors on any rifle. It needs to be a dull color.
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>>1542369
I didn't really design that as a long rage rifle.
In my head it's a modular platform where parts can be swapped out for different purposes.
What you see in my concept would be the standard issue variant.
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>>1542383
You know what happened the last time we wanted something complex and jack of all? We got the F-35. A piece of shit that put us 3 billion I believe in the hole.
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>>1542438
Fair enough.
I figure designing a specialist rifle for every application just ensures better performance in those applications anyways.
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>>1542453
well no. There should be a 'common' fire arm for our main-stream military forces. A semi-auto for them. A Sniper rifle design for our snipers/scouts and then heavy weapons one for the hard hitting stuff.
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>>1542494
Why semi-auto? isn't three round burst a decent compromise between the accuracy of single shots and the quantity of full auto?
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>>1542502
You put your shots were you want them, and only held back by how quickling you can pull the trigger. Burst fucks up because you're forced to compensation for the barrel having 3 bullets quickly leaving it. Also Semi converse ammo better.
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>>1542522
okay. You sound like you know what you're talking about. I don't.
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>>1542542
Ammunition specialists is in my friends discord. So I asked him about it.

I only have a Tarus and AK.
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>>1542552
>Tarus
How's it feel knowing your gun has a 10% chance of going off without a trigger pull every time it chambers a round?
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>>1542552
Can you ask him about the Mosin-Nagant? I want our guns to be as reliable as them but i'm not sure.
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>>1542564
Seeing as we're moving away from conventional cartridge based ammunition and firearms, taking hints from the Mosin Nagant probably won't do us any good unless we're fighting Nazi's or Capitalists.
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>>1542572
I only want the Mosin-Nagant's reliability applied to our guns, i don't think we have to use the cartridge based ammunition for that.
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>>1542556
This is why you don't pull the striker back until you need to. Ammo doesn't magically start on fire like humans you know. Besides the judge is rather good in testing and I've had no problems with my CC of it.

>>1542564
Honestly, The Nugget is useful because its pretty much wood and a metal rod.With what we're doing we're most likely gonna pull an M16/M16A1 which sucked when they first came out and then got better over time. Then again all fire arms go through this.

nuggets are a pain in the ass to clean and the ammo atleast here in America has gone up sense we put more sanctions on russia.
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>>1542593
Does nobody in the US manufacture 7.62×54?
You'd think it'd be a good way to capitalize on the fact that importing it is kinda fucked.
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>>1542621
Ya, but if the prices of it go up. They can charge more as well.
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>>1542593
Aw, i wanted guns capable of being fired after they're used as an improv sledgehammer, crutch, club or boat oar.
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>>1542633
What's the average price per round nowadays anyways?
Considering getting a some as my friend is selling his mosin for like $225
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>>1542648
Well you do that by making the external parts extremely durable and by making the internal mechanism as simple and robust as possible.
We accomplish all that by having good design principles and even better materials.
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>>1542648
You should never use your firearm like that. You have a combat knife for a reason and we'll have those Comstic knives for our boys.

>>1542655
10? Dollars for like 25 rounds here at Walmart but I don't own a nugget my 2 friends do. Used to be like 5 dollars but I also live in a state near the coast so they couldn't charge much in the first place.
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>>1542666
Online prices are starting to drift near 15 dollars for 20 rounds and that worries me.
Guess I'm gonna have to support my local businesses again.
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>>1542666
>You have a combat knife for a reason and we'll have those Comstic knives for our boys.
Knifes can't be used like sledgehammers or clubs, don't have the size to act like boat oars and aren't long enough to be used like a crutch.
>>1542665
That is exactly what i want to do with our guns.
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>>1542684
Should always do that in the first place.

>>1542685
I'm confused, Why is our properly trained military forced that will have proper weapons suddenly be using Sledgehammers or clubs?
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>>1542691
You never know when you need a club or boat oar in war, private.
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>>1542699
You need a melee weapon? You have a knife. You need a hole dug? Shovel.

Sledgehammer and clubs are terrible ideas.
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>>1542699
Look, I get it, the rifles should be able to take a beating.
But if the troops run out of ammo, their first option for defense certainly isn't gonna be to swing their rifles.
They have knives and shovels before they start swinging around complex machines.
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>>1542713
Also, our frontline would be mainly robot, and our human specialists in the rear. If they are in melee, something's gone quite wrong.
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>>1542730
>If they are in melee, something's gone quite wrong.
Always plan for things to go wrong mate.
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>>1542747
We're not the Coast Guard mate.
We're not gonna design a main battle rifle as something to smack shit with.
At least not as it's primary purpose.
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>>1542747
>plan for something to go wrong
>Make them carry ineffective weapons

Anon we get it, you want rule of cool. We want something of value.
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>>1542747
well clubbing people with your gun just seems inefficient. Better to give everyone a sharp entrenching tool for splitting skulls quickly.
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>>1542756
>>1542757
When did i say i want to make "smacking shit" it's primary purpose.
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>>1542770
We have supermutants to smack all the shit to your hearts content.
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>>1542770
Alright. I just think that there's no reason to design the weapon to where the first thing to do once you run out of ammo is to start beating people with it.
We can design separate tools that accomplish that goal much better anyways.
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>>1542747
Give them a knife then, easy.
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>>1542806
Why use knife when have superior shovel of legion bashing?
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>>1542819
powerfist. Its light, compact, packs a punch and is always on hand when needed.
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>>1542819
I have knife to stab legion with.
I have shovel to smack legion with.
I have gun to club legion with, and can still shoot after.
With my powers combined, i am LEGION SMASHER!
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>>1542830
Add to the list >>1542831
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>>1542830
>compact
Sure thing bud.
If we can actually make a version that isn't bulky as shit, I guess we could issue some.
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>>1542849
well, relatively. Compared to a super sledge or shovel.
And you can probably wear one and shoot a gun, so it makes a good back up weapon, without the need to switch weapons.
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>>1542863
I still don't think it's a particularly good melee weapon due to it's effective range being the same as one's own fist.
Although at that point, I guess it's down to individual troop preferences.
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Hey QM. Do you have your MS Paint sketches done yet?
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>>1542863
You cannot wear one and fire a gun actually. its started in one of the games. Its too bulky for that.
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Can we design an AM rifle variant that fires modular munitions? Like, say, a miniaturized Plasma generator that heats up a spike of solid metal as it flies, impacting first with a supersonic bolt of plasma, then a layer of metal moving so quickly through the ionized air that even a railgun shot would have trouble matching its kinetic force?

Or a laser shot that burns away the atmosphere in front of it, all but eliminating air-resistance to the bullet?

Or a taser-spike that is actually meant to embed itself in the target and shock the everliving fuck out of them instead of punch through?

Or a smart bullet that can course correct to actually hit who it's being aimed at regardless of things like wind, bullet drop, or if the target's moving?

Or an airburst shell that's like a very tiny frag going off as it moves behind enemy cover?

Or a thermite anti-armor shell that hits the target with enough force to trigger its thermite payload and start burning?

Or a 'Mini-Nuke' shell that is an even further scaled-down version of a nuclear device (albeit with a proportional loss in power)

Or a 'Gamma Shot' that starts emitting harmful, potentially lethal levels gamma radiation from wherever the bullet gets embedded?
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>>1543083
That would probably be bullet construction. Like in Xcom, with the dragon rounds, ap rounds, bluescreen rounds, etc.
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>>1543092
We should totes do that.

Also, did we send any companions in to assist with the Mothership? I know Brain will be directing everything, but maybe Riddick or Arcade could go in?
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Good morning

Fell asleep yesterday, was exhausted from work. Lemme get the thread going again.
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>>1544241
Oh shit, time to abandon sleep.
A good thing too, i wanted to watch more HOI4 videos
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>>1544241
It's cool bruh.
I at least managed to keep myself occupied while you were away.
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>>1544241
Oh yeah, do you have your MS Paint design sketched done yet?
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>>1542103
Okay, so first of all there are several ways the securitron's can go about this.

CHOOSE:
>The Safe Way - Just go about and scavenge as many fallen alien weapons as possible. It will give us a small to moderate amount of weapons to work with. We could simply train with them as is, or try to reverse engineer them but that would be very difficult without replication.

>The Armory - We could try to attack the Alien Armory. It might have weapons hitherto unseen, and a lot of standard alien weapons. This may give us lots of ammunition and armaments to experiment on.

>The Alien Factory - It stands to reason that the place the aliens produce things may give us a means to produce alien weapons, or at least robots

---

You remember that Riddick wants to find his home planet, another burnt out and ruined world, though he wouldn't tell you the name.

Riddick has a lot of weapons he won't share with you, a gravity gun from a group of space mercs he used to be the boss of, a "Helion" energy rifle meant for human use. The technology used in these alien energy weapons might provide additional info or options on reverse engineering the Zetan tech. He might give them to you if you figure out a way to give him a fighter ship and a map to find his homeworld, though why he would trade one blasted planet for another is a mystery to you.

But then you'd lose the best auto-mechanic (well, only really), driver, and one of the best fighting companions you got.
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>>1544342
Soonish.

It will probably be parts that you guys can mix and match, but will be based on what you manage to acquire in the current mission quest
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>>1544352
>>The Armory - We could try to attack the Alien Armory. It might have weapons hitherto unseen, and a lot of standard alien weapons. This may give us lots of ammunition and armaments to experiment on.
I LIKE TO TAKE RISKS
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>>1544352
>The Safe Way - Just go about and scavenge as many fallen alien weapons as possible. It will give us a small to moderate amount of weapons to work with. We could simply train with them as is, or try to reverse engineer them but that would be very difficult without replication.
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>>1544352
The armory
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Guess QM wants one more vote
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>>1544521
k
>>1544352
>>The Armory - We could try to attack the Alien Armory. It might have weapons hitherto unseen, and a lot of standard alien weapons. This may give us lots of ammunition and armaments to experiment on.
Can we also rescue those Super Mutants we passed by to go for the Giddyup Buttercup last time?
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>Armory
LOCKED

Someone roll me a 1d100
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Rolled 1 (1d100)

>>1544590
Alea jacta est
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Rolled 52 (1d100)

>>1544592
Lol
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Alright then, and that was my second vote of this entire quest
>>1536096
>>1544592
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Rolled 100 (1d100)

>>1544590
Gonna go ahead and try for a 100
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>>1544600
GOD HAS ANSWERED!
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>>1544600
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Rolled 81 (1d100)

>>1544600
Well sheeeit.

I need to do some additional rolling
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Rolled 6 (1d12)

>>1544607
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Rolled 4 (1d5)

>>1544608
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>>1544592
aaaawwwwwww
>>1544600
AAAHAHHHHHHHHHH
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>>1544600
Your securitrons make their way toward the armory, you watch from the Forbidden Zone's monitor as they make short work of a few straggler, collecting any guns they find. Some of your more durable companions like ARES, Mary-Jo, and ED-E are among the robotic force. You decide to send some expendable robo Scorpions to act as fodder.

The armory door is this big metal thing, which the Securitron's begin to cut away with their gatling lasers. It does some time, several hours in fact. After the door has been sufficiently weakened, they blast open the door and charge their way in.

Immediately the first waves of Robo-Scorpions and several securitrons are met with a hail of disintegration fire and are blown to pieces, gunned down by heavily entrenched and shielded aliens behind energy barrers, holding their guns and even manning alien turrets. Securitrons'are blown up one after the other, but the sheer mass of metal surges on, pressing the robot corpses like a moving shield, launching rockets and gatling lasers in successive waves of fire.

A fierce and terrible firefight erupts in the armory, alien energy weapons and bombs shred even the might securitron's vaunted titanium armor with such quantity of firepower. The alien's inertial shields protect them from some the explosive blasts of the missile barrages, but provide little protection against gatling lasers.

Though outnumbered and outgunned, the battle soon prove to be in your favor simply through concentration of force and firepower. The amount of missiles, gatling lasers, and the companions leading the way forcing through the alien's heavy defenses, making them fall back. It almost seems like you could win this.

Everything goes wrong however, when one of your companions looks up and spots a small, odd looking alien flying in the air with a jetpack. It holds a glowing energy weapon different than all the rest, and before they can do anything, huge blasts of lightning and EMP pulse wipes out visual feed of scores of securitrons, and suddenly communications are cut off.
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>>1544740
Okay so on the one hand we may have just lost a large portion of our forces and even some companions.


On the other, that EMP gun could work wonders against Elijah's hologram projectors.
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>>1544744
>and even some companions.
>He says this like it's no big deal.
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>>1544748
It is a big deal but things could be far worse seeing as we almost lost the Courier not too long ago and the loss of companions compared to him is...acceptable. Not wanted but acceptable.
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>>1544754
Yeah, but ed-e is best boy. Hes the heart of the op. Him and veronica
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>>1544756
True, ED-E is purest robo-boy but the loss of ARES could be more crippling to our technological development potentially.

Seeing as she is our only aeronautics expert outside of the few ex-enclave we have and they only know how to fly and maintain a verti-bird. Where as ARES was a flight instructor and maintenance system.
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>>1544763
Yeah probably. Though i imagine things arent as terrible as they seem. We did get a 100 to even things out
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>>1544770
>1: everyone dies but 100: we get a super good weapon
t-thanks
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>>1544770
True. Chances are things are...fine? Fine-ish?


Point is things are probably not going to fall apart entirely but I doubt we are going to like the outcome.
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>>1544776
We get many super good weapons. Seeing as we get their armoury.


Speaking of which we really need to focus down on the robotics front and get working on mass producing simple military and construction robots. Once we can expand quickly beyond big mt and into other areas I want to get started with creating bunkers / hidden bases in resource / tech rich areas like the divide for us to use to start extracting and sending the good stuff back to our city.
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>>1544776
I'd rather have our companions.
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>>1544781
We can get more companions.


In saying that, we can get more super weapons. However securing the alien ship will be great for our tech development.
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>>1544781
Warm bodies are easier to replace than alien superweapons
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>>1544782
>We can get more companions.
YOU CAN'T REPLACE ED-E
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>>1544782
Yeah, but we were going for the armory anyways, so it isnt a bonus, just the reward. 100s are for success plus extra.
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You worry as you wonder what became of them, and consider planning an assault of your own to rescue them, when one of the screen's flashes back.

It's ARES. She seems to be coming too, you pay close attention to what's happening. You see her turning to her arms and legs, all bound by glowing energy as she's strapped to a table, a bright light streaming down.

It's then she turns and see's the same alien. As you take a closer look, you realize exactly why it's different. The other aliens have thin, scrawny lips that barely move when they speak. This one is smiling like a human. Ares lifts her head in defiance

>ARES
"I don't imagine you're going to offer me a safe word. I suggest you gag me before you rip me open, I'm a bit of a screamer."

It does something unexpected, it speaks.

>It
"I didn't convince the elder to let me have you just so I could tear you apart. I wanted to see how good human design was. Let's try the probe."

The screen goes fuzzy for a bit, and you hear ARES scream. . .or groan?

>It
"So vocal, so responsive. Reacts just like the real thing, too bad you're made of metal. This would be so enjoyable"

>ARES
"I have to admit, I am not averse to continued. . .experimentation. But I have an owner who is going to miss me."

>It
"And I don't care.. Those knuckleheads, all the others, all they care about is vivisections and bioweapons. No appreciation for the subtley joys. But then without them, I guess I wouldn't be here and they wouldn't have their weapon."

>ARES
"What weapon?"

>It
"Me you dumb whore. That's right, I'm their best weapon yet, and the only thing between them and annihilation by the humans."

>ARES
"And what makes you so special, apart from your appreciation for cuffs and chains."

>It
"Funny thing really. See, they tried putting our DNA into humans, but that resulted in abominations too stupid and hostile to be of use to anyone. Didn't want to do the reverse because it hurt their little feelings to disgrace their genes with filthy human ones. But after the crash and then the death of their precious captain, they took some DNA from the one that killed him. They made me.

And now I can see for all their talk of humans being inferior savages, that's exactly the problem. They have all these weapons, technology, advantages, and twice they let a single human march right in and kill the commander in his own seat. And you want to know why?"

>ARES
"If I say yes, will you stop talking and go back to probing."

>It
"Because in they've never needed to fight for survival for millenia. Their bodies are no longer adapted to it. They rely so much on their technological superiority that tactical knowledge utterly eludes them.

And that's where I come in. I don't know whoever it was they took those human genes from, but whoever they were, they were damn smart. And now I am too."
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>>1544786
I know and I will miss him if he is dead. However we can get him from the divide as well.

>>1544787
True but it balances out the 1 and creates an...alternate series of events...


>>1544788
MUH SON.


Okay, so I hope you realise we must now contact the aliens and shit. We can now get another, great companion!
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>>1544793
We didn't fire the Divide nuclear missiles, that means the Divide ED-E sacrificed himself.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/The_End
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>>1544793
DAMN THE ALIEN, I WANT MY ROBOT-BOY BACK!
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>>1544793
Cryptosporidium cant shit grenades and energy cells. Ed-e can.
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>>1544788
This poses an interesting problem. If humans no longer have to fight for survival, they will eventually start to decline. Thus, fighting for survival, survival of the fittest, is an absolute necessity for any society.

A perfect meritocracy where the weak are culled. The question isn't whether it will have long-term benefits, it's how to do such a thing humanely. Further evolution along its natural path in its natural way, with things like FEV, cybernetics, and replicator tech serving as supplements to the process, not crutches that lead humans further into the depths of neoteny-ism.

Someone make a sticky note for this. I want to pursue this line of thought later, when the immediate crisis is dealt with.
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>>1544800
Oh shit yeah...but that only destroyed the physical body, right? If we can make another and transfer the right data then he'll live...probably...it could be very painful...

>>1544804
We will work on it.

>>1544813
True but this Alien child of ours might be able to arrange a peaceful exchange between our two groups.

We get their tech and shit, they get peace and potentially even test subjects.
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>>1544820
I can think of a few solutions but most of the effective ones are...unlikely to be acceptable by anon's.
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>>1544822
FUCK PEACE, THEY HURT MY ROBOT-BUY AND IT'S GENOCIDE TIME
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>>1544825
Is it along the lines of "Remove the desire to work"?
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>>1544788
>ARES
"If you're so smart, why aren't you their leader?"

>It
"Problem with being a freak of nature, lady. Everyone needs you but nobody actually trusts you. If I wanted to I'd use force to make myself leader, I'd be the most deadliest thing they'd never see coming. But if I did I'd weaken them to the point the humans would just roll over us. Id have killed all my allies and be surrounded by people that want to kill me.

And besides, if I keep working for these guys, I get all the lovely little test subjects and booze I want. Not as much these days, and never as much as I want, but I make do. Seems all this human DNA has unlocked a number of desires. I love to fight, but after a good damn fight, I got some needs. As long as they keep my needs met, I'll do the killing and fighting for them. I get my fun, they get their hero"

---

You consider you might be able to speak through ARES. Or at least, tell her what to say.

>What do?
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>>1544820
Eh. There will always be conflict. As we rise to the stars we will meet our klingons and romulans and dominion.
The average man would bot be able to fight, but as a people we wont be complacent
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>>1544831
"DID YOU HURT MY ED-E?"
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>>1544837
>ARES
"Where are the others?"

>It
"The one's who were different from those missile bots of yours yeah? Oh, I have them here some where. Do you care about them? Too bad, they're mine to do with as I want.

That skeletal robot one of yours, so boring. I wonder if I could build a copy of your body and put her brain in it. That would be fun, see how she reacts to my special touch."
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>>1544826
We can get your roboi back. We can repair him. We can improve him.


We have the technology.


>>1544830
About as intrusive.


Essentially we enforce genetic standards for mass reproduction on the population: anything greater than 2-3 children requires good genetics, exceptional intelligence, physical aptitude, charisma or wealth. This will also encourage investing in what children you have rather than having more.

Then we remove genetic imperfections and replace them with genuinely superior versions by retrovirus and other methods. Stronger muscles from other species, night vision, water-breathing, chemical resistance, Unity's abilities like communal thought - assuming we can make it optional and such.


>>1544831
"What if the humans were able to provide everything the aliens do? Plus you'd be on the side that are winning."
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>>1544842
Time to bust in and "Offer" annexation.
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So, a question, are we willing to absorb the Zetans into our empire?


I mean they have done a large number of fucked up things but like we are so perfect. On the other hand we could just save this one and any he thinks will listen to...well maybe not reason but the barrel of a gun.
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>>1544844
>designer babies
That is a bad idea, i instead suggest a minor increase to intelligence and physical health only through genetic engineering every generation, eventually we'll see excellent results.
>>1544849
See >>1544845
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>>1544853
Fucked up a bit, i mean we'll only improve intelligence and physical health a little each Gen.
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>>1544844
Problem is mental complaceny not physical ability. The zetans bever thought someone could beat them, and so they relaxed and thus failed. In space it becomes less about physicality and more about technology and tactics
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>>1544853
>designer babies
NO.


Not those fucking horrifying "every child will look """beautiful""" do you want them blond or red haired?" pieces of shit. We are talking objective improvements over the baseline human. Shit like improving the structure of blood cells to raise the absorption rate of oxygen, the resistance of bones and other such improvements.
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>>1544861
Oh that.


Well we could have them all play against AI's / each other meant to teach them tactics / tactical thinking.
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>>1544864
>Shit like improving the structure of blood cells to raise the absorption rate of oxygen, the resistance of bones and other such improvements.
The stuff you describe is still Designer babies to me, focus on minor, minimum risk alterations instead.
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>>1544869
Designer babies is an entirely separate branch of controlled evolution theory. What I am talking about is what FEV should accomplish but we direct it instead of a virus.
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Here's a perfect description of what we are going to do with the aliens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh5LY4Mz15o
4:42-4:58
>>1544873
I know and i said it's still looks like Designer babies to me.
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>>1544844
"Ha! You really think your human masters would want me to live?

Let alone offer me regular supplies of babes, booze, and comfort like. . .like some sort of savage god being offered sacrifices?"

You see a twinkle in his eye and he pauses, you suspect he actually likes the idea.

"How would I know they'd even be telling the truth, if they were going to offer me that."
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>>1544882
"Not going to offer you babes, you have to seduce them yourself, booze and comfort i can do however."
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>>1544876
Fair enough. Also that would be a good plan, were it not for us lacking the military strength to do that.


>>1544882
"I am a robot equipped with long range communications systems. You don't think that I am currently in communication with our leadership?

Also, we really couldn't give a damn about what you do in your free-time. We have a tons of alcohol and shit if you want it. Plus drugs. A fuck ton of drugs."
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>>1544885
"No women, no deal."
>>1544887
"Okay, let's pretend you have all these things. How would I even guarantee my saftey and that you won't go back on your word?"
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>>1544893
He can get a lobotomite. And dumb-synths later on
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>>1544893
>"No women, no deal."
"One Lobotomite female."
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>>1544893
"We don't have any reason to kill you? We gain more from keeping you alive and willing than dead or unwilling?

I mean, you seem useful. You know how the technology of this ship works, are a militarily skilled individual and aren't entirely insane or power-hungry.

To be frank that makes you better than about 30% of people we deal with. Plus, you seem like you'd be a great laugh to have round for a party or something.


Also I would point out if we really wanted to eliminate your people we could. It's just not worth the resources if we can avoid it and by keeping you alive and on our side, we can possibly even get your people to help us. At least until they think they can eliminate us or escape by making another ship or something.


Plus, we really need all the military strength we can get. Seeing as there is a threat coming that we can't beat alone probably and it wouldn't bother to talk with you."
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>>1544904
"What? Those things? Those are literally dumber than the actual animals on this forsaken planet. Where's the fun in that.

See, this is what I was talking about. At least with the elder, they don't have any qualms with giving me offerings for my fighting ability."
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>>1544907
>We don't have any reason to kill you? We gain more from keeping you alive and willing than dead or unwilling?
Now hold on a minute, i have a reason to kill him.
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>>1544910
We can fix ede. Maybe. Probably
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>>1544908
Fuck this, i ain't giving him actual women, the aliens die.
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>>1544908
What if we gave him dibs on any non-critical female he captures in battle?
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>>1544916
God dammit no, at that point we become the Legion.
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>>1544918
Open advert to all the people- who wants to sex an alien?
Does he even have genitals?
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>>1544918
We need someone with intelligence on alien weapons, and besides we are already offering human sacrifices to Dala
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>>1544908
"I can state with fairly good certainty we can get you some women. Hell I can state with certainty that we can find someone...with alternative sexual ideas to want such a thing.

Plus, we can always fall back on the oldest method known to man, whores and anchor-wives. Assuming of course you don't want a constant supply of new women? If so we can see what we can do..."


>>1544916
>>1544918
What if we offered them the choice of becoming his sex...pet? Slave? Concubine?


Can he breed women or just fuck them?
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>>1544925
>>1544929
The cunt won't accept that >>1544885 >>1544893
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>>1544931
I am offering him the certainty of women. Seeing as I plan on going a recruiting run shortly of Legion and NCR lands for more people for our state.
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>>1544918
We wouldn't start keeping giant slave pens and crucifying people for opposing us, just making a few prisoners disappear every now and then, not like the Geneva convention even exists in this world
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>>1544929
"I don't care whether they want it or not. I could even make them want it if I wanted to, but mind control is boring. I prefer behavioral adjustment.

I don't want a lot. I don't even like most of you humans. I just want the pretty ones, one every now and then will work. I'm used to not burning through my toys so quickly, its not like I have an unlimited supply here either."
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>>1544931
He wont accept a deviant who wants rto bang an alien?
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>>1544934
I also offered him women >>1544885
And he refused >>1544893
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>>1544938
"Aye, I think we can easily work such a thing out. I mean, we have access to advanced appearance alteration, so we can make anyone willing look like you want them to."
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>>1544941
>Not going to offer you babes
Anon I'm not so sure about that
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>>1544938
Well, as long as he takes care of them...I guess I'm cool with it. Humane treatment, if not human treatment. Of course, he'll have to do his part in the courtship process.

"Do you prefer 'hunting your prey' or are you going to go the boring route of having them just given to you?"
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>>1544941
You did not offer him women. You said "Hey if they want to fuck you then they can". He said "I want the certainty of bitches".
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>>1544938
Do you mean use up like abuse them until they die, ir use them until you get bored? How well are they after your done with them?
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>>1544935
It's about standards, how is throwing females at him to appease him not Legion behavior?
>>1544944
So him being able to seduce any woman in our Civ doesn't count as giving him women?
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>>1544953
He doesnt want that. He wants them dropped on his lap for his amusement.
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>>1544953
>It's about standards, how is throwing females at him to appease him not Legion behavior?
Because they have the choice to say no?

>So him being able to seduce any woman in our Civ doesn't count as giving him women?
If I say you can own and buy a car, does that mean I gave you a car?
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>>1544958
So if all our women refuse, what do we give him?|

And may i remind you guys the Legion sold great khan wives to ranking officers in one of the endings, how is giving this alien guaranteed females not the same thing?
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>>1544958
>Do i have the opportunity to buy a Car? Oh look a car salesman is right next door.
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>>1544947
"Depends on what fits my fancy. Sometimes when I see one I really want I have em brought to me, usually based on looks.

Sometimes though, its the personality profile.. Especially when they're smart or clever, and at least average looking. Then I like to have some fun catching them."

>>1544952
"I rarely dispose of them when I grow bored, what a waste. If I really can't stand them, I put em back in the freezer until I can come up with some fun new project."

>>1544953
Not really no.

>>1544963
Could always go out of BigMT every now and then.
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>>1544963
It is. Which is why we hope for a deviant in our ranks. Really sell the out of this world experience. And find out what he means by burning through
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>>1544963
>So if all our women refuse, what do we give him?
My current plan is to go a recruiting run of the outside world for more people. We can pickup some whores and shit for him as we go. Failing that we raid the Legion held lands and free as many as we can. Given time we can find someone willing, self-sacrificing or someone desperate enough.

>And may i remind you guys the Legion sold great khan wives to ranking officers in one of the endings, how is giving this alien guaranteed females not the same thing?
Cause they can say no for god sake.
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>>1544968
"I always enjoy coming up with new and fun things to do, in or out of the table room. But eventually I do tire of them and want something fresh and new. Still, I don't ever let em expire if I have a say with it. I just freeze em."
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>>1544972
Well that's decided then, we can easily supply him with whores and lowlives, and dispose of him should he become a liability
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>>1544968
So you want us to become the Legion, just so you can have an attraction.
Why not just use the God damn alien ship that's crashed in our yard?
>>1544970
You can't guarantee we will find someone willing to fuck him and he might not even like the girls we offer.
This is a shit deal, the SHITTIEST deal.
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>>1544977
I want to send an alien fucker to the alien if she wants. No way do i want to force unwilling women to him
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>>1544981
No guarantee we get a willing alien fucker and if you read >>1544967
He might not even like the ones we bring.
I reiterate, THE SHITTIEST DEAL!
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>>1544972
My god.

He's a Rick Sanchez that hasn't become hopelessly jaded yet.

...WE MUST KEEP HIM AWAY FROM UNITY
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>>1544987
This is another good point, don't want him lusting after our GOD DAMN WIFE!
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>>1544986
Yeah pretty shit. If we had synth facilities, we could make custom, but we dont. O well.
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>>1544977
>So you want us to become the Legion, just so you can have an attraction.
Strange how you seemingly work off of a binary moral system of: okay and LEGION!

>You can't guarantee we will find someone willing to fuck him and he might not even like the girls we offer.
Trust me. I can guarantee we can find someone willing to fuck him: drug addicts, loyalists, perverts and others will be willing if we explain the situation or pay them well enough.

As to him not liking them, I'd point out we / he can change their appearance as much as he wants. So he won't tire as quickly and our effective supply rises greatly.


>This is a shit deal, the SHITTIEST deal.
If all else fails I have a backup plan: either we fuck'em or we get one of Unity's subjects if they are willing to do so and he is too.
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>>1544990
Then don't take the deal.
Send in our robots to bait them, then have the stealth team+courier focus on the halfbreed when he shows up to save the day.
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>>1544986
It's a pretty good deal honestly, he said he could wait so worst case scenario he starts getting unruly after he gets nothing at which point we off him with our amazing stats
Best case scenario we find an alternative that doesn't require women, or a good compromise
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>>1544994
Eh. The other women in Unity are kinda flesh monsters.
Though maybe we fly to new reno and pick up a ho who wants to. Like that movie where the lady was paid to be a girlfriend.
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>>1544981
"Not so fast though, like I said, I enjoy my ability to pick who I want.

I can tell you're not being serious about this. I think a I know a way to be sure.

I been watching you from the ship, scouting out targets, not like I'd ever risk it.

You've got some kind of command center going on, I can tell because you got officers walking in and out of it. Always cleaner, better fed, good looking. I've picked out two of them I'd want, the smart one or the pretty one.

Give me one of them, after that promise me you'll just give me good looking ones now and again, and all the comforts I want plus I want a part of the ship to myself. Guarantee all these things and my saftey, and I'll fight for you. The others on this ship are a bunch of boring dorks anyway. I'll even lend you some of my knowledge."
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>>1544994
>Strange how you seemingly work off of a binary moral system of: okay and LEGION!
>Implying giving him females to maintain his loyalty=/=Legion men buying captured females as wives/pleasure slaves.
I dunno Bob, looks pretty similar to me.
>Trust me. I can guarantee we can find someone willing to fuck him: drug addicts, loyalists, perverts and others will be willing if we explain the situation or pay them well enough.
You know what, fine, let's see you get those women. This anon has a point anyway >>1544996
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>>1545000
Hahah. Take the whore chuckles.
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>>1545000
For fucks sake. This is impossible.
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>>1545004
He's showing a map of the ship and which parts he wants. Relatively speaking its not a lot. Its the surgical room, one of the freezer storage compartments, and the remaining fighter hanger. This is about less than 10% of the ship.
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>>1545007
Why does he want the freezer storage compartment?
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>>1545011
To freeze the used women. Pay attention.
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>>1545011
He keeps his old toys in there.

I suggest we lead a raid to take everything in that compartment.
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>>1545011
"It's where I store specimens when I'm not using them or bored, then I wait until I'm not bored of them to use em again."
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>>1545013
I know and i was hoping he would stop that.
>>1545015
I support raid if we kill him too.
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>>1544997
>Eh. The other women in Unity are kinda flesh monsters.
Plastic surgery!

>Though maybe we fly to new reno and pick up a ho who wants to. Like that movie where the lady was paid to be a girlfriend.
Yeah something like that.


>>1545000
"Those would be the leader's closest friends, advisers and companions, in both a sexual and non-sexual sense.

He might be willing to allow you to bed them if they are but possession of them isn't an option or something advisable. Given they are both warriors and present a potential threat to you.

Assuming you don't plan on freezing them or keeping them for too long they might be willing...especially if they can come and go over the course of a few sessions so to speak."


>>1545001
>Implying giving him females to maintain his loyalty=/=Legion men buying captured females as wives/pleasure slaves.
That is what I am implying and what you are saying is incorrect. Seeing as these women have a choice.

>You know what, fine, let's see you get those women. This anon has a point anyway >>1544996
I can get those women, seeing as most slaves of the Legion would suck the dick of a deathclaw to get freedom.
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>>1545023
Are you gonna ask Willow or Delilah if they want to bed the alien anon?
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>>1545025
Of course and when they say no I go with plan B.


Extensive plastic surgery onto whomever we can find that is willing.
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>>1545029
And if the alien finds out you switched them with a fake?
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>>1545025
Why not?
>"So, hypothetically, would you be interested in fucking a particularly kinky alien? He's an asshole, in a charming sort of way, but he's also not human. Well...mostly not human. Does have some human DNA. Anyways, does that in any way, shape, or form sound appealing?"
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>>1545031
We kill him with extreme prejudice
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>>1545023
"Possession's the only 'option' I'm offering. You wanna buy me as a merc, then you gotta pay up. The elders here do."

For some reason, you don't know why, but that sounds exactly like something you would say. In fact, his voice is oddly familiar.

"But I see your point, and that's exactly why I want em. I want to know your leader is willing to give up something close for this too, so I know you mean what you say.

But I'll make this easier on you. Your leader likes to hand over those little cotton toys and pencils and candy to the blonde haired one, and she hugs him back. That must be his mate, the other one he doesn't touch him much at all. Probably one of your medical crew from the way she dresses. The smart ones are always the most fun to break in.

Give me that one, and the other things I asked. I'm aware of your human concept of haggling."
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>>1545035
>"Possession's the only 'option' I'm offering. You wanna buy me as a merc, then you gotta pay up. The elders here do."
Welp, time to kill him.
And don't even think of using a fake, he's a smart one he'll find out.
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>>1545035
Thats not haggling thats laying terms then dropping more terms on top. At first it was pretty women, booze and free time. Now you also want a specific woman on top of all that.
If thats negotiating, you need to take another look at a dictionary
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>>1545038
Agreed, those demands are unacceptable
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>>1545035
"Actually they are all his mates. He is a...productive individual.

Also, our people need medical assistance greatly as we are having problems thanks to this being our people still setting up our society and disease outbreaks are occurring.

We can offer you someone who looks exactly like the attractive one thanks to advanced appearance altering technology we have.


Also, I feel I should point out that our leader is the one who lead the attack on your craft and killed your captain. Chances are it's his genetics you are infused with, he specifically wants to save you because you are something along the lines of a son to him."
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>>1545045
>Also, I feel I should point out that our leader is the one who lead the attack on your craft and killed your captain. Chances are it's his genetics you are infused with, he specifically wants to save you because you are something along the lines of a son to him."
This is just too much.
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>>1545051
Hey. It is true and it explains why we want him alive.
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>>1545052
But i don't care if he's our son, the guy hurt ED-E and is a bonafide ass.
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>>1545042
"I'm more aware of diplomacy than you realize. For example, I'm aware you said there's a pressing threat you need to deal with, and I imagine your recent foray to our armory is an attempt to gather our technology. So that must be what you are after. I'm also aware I have five of your companions, which you don't see as expendable due to your asking for them. I counted no more than 600 or so of your missile robots, I've just destroyed 100 of them and now I have perfect samples for their blueprints.

I've been watching you, it doesn't look like you can sustain any more losses of them either, especially if what you want is another asset to fight this threat of yours.

If I'm not worth the price of one woman up front and one every couple of months, I'm getting a clear picture of where I should stand."

>>1545045
"Ha, so that explains it. I should have known whoever they spliced me from had a similar taste in human women, and would be your leader.

Meh, you've got what, at least 20 or so medics plus I've seen those white medical robots of yours running around as well. But perhaps its at least a show of your willingness to learn proper medical treatment, the zetan's just pour their biogel on everything to make it go away."
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>>1545051
We dont though. Not really. Too expensive.
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>>1545035
"If we had an entire species-spanning civilization, this would be an easy request to fulfill. You're asking for vital members in a community that numbers in the low hundreds. Not to say we won't present the idea to them, especially if you can assure us they'll have time to commit to their other duties, but some things are just impractical to consider."
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>>1545058
you make the hardest moral quandries, FalloutQM.

I love this quest.
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>>1545062
It's not even a moral quandary, NO is the obvious answer.
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>>1545062
You guys did roll a 1 and a 100, so I had to offer an outlet to make an absolute loss salvagable somehow and get what you are after, for a price. Otherwise this would have been a terrible disaster for you
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>>1545058
"We can't replenish our numbers easily in regards to highly trained, skilled or educated individuals. Which all these people are or are being made into if they aren't already. We can present the option to the attractive one but that is the best we can do for you.


Also, I would point out that your people can't sustain any more losses either. We both will be too weak after eliminating the other to really consider it a victory."
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>>1545066
So the 1 was it was a disaster, and the 100 was we pay to succed our original goals? That doesnt seem very equitable
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>>1545069
Six companions (those in the ship + the new guy) at the loss of Willow or Delilah.

The answer is Yes.
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>>1545071
I think you linked to the wrong post.
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>>1545058
"Or how about I show you how to use one of our biogel healing machines. That's definitely worth one of your medical crew, if not more.

Hell I'd have a hard time maintaining my specimens now without one."

>>1545070
It's never equitable.

Everything has a price, good and bad.
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>>1545071
Or we could attack the guy and get the six companions back+not lose Willow or Delilah.
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>>1545074
He's us with Mind Control powers and technological superiority AND homefield advantage.

I mean, we've done some impossible odds before, and if Ulysses or joshua were here I'd say go for it, alongside us and Riddick.

But we won't win that fight as we are.
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>>1545073
"Look, I understand your point of view.


On the other hand, we really can't. Our people wouldn't approve of such a decision unless it was taken willingly by the individuals involved or it was a outsider.

I can ask but I can't force them."
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>>1545082
The guy is the only thing holding the aliens together look at >>1544740
We were doing good until he showed up, just take him down and the rest will be easy.
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>>1545073
I vote yes. Anyone else?
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>>1545086
...what if we changed our appearance to that of our companion and went in and defeated / captured him?
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>>1545083
"That's a lie and you know it.

In between the mechanical force to force your people, I suspect from some of the wastelanders I have now that the average person doesn't even care when someone just dissapears. What's the phrase 'glad it wasn't me' or 'more food for me' or something like that.
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>>1545090
OH SHIT ANON THAT'S GENIUS!
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>>1545090
What if we seduce him and make him our sex slave
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>>1545090
>>1545093
Remember what happened last time anons thought they could just 'Go in and win' against a superior foe in their own house?

It's Elijah all over again.
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>>1545090
That's actually very clever I'm impressed. You'd need to spend actions to upgrade the Auto-Doc to change genders, even superficially though, and you don't think the alien will permit a delay.
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>>1545088
I vote yeah, at the very least we can ask her.


>>1545091
"You assume I am willing to enforce such a decision by military action on my own people. I am sickened by your suggestion that the average person is so self-centred and lacking of empathy.

However, I suppose your people seemingly act in such a way that it may seem like that style of control is logical to you. I can't exactly blame you for thinking I would do so.


I...I will consider this issue and return soon."

>>1545093
I have my moments.
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>>1545097
Hey remember when Elijah was a genocidal madman? And a stubborn man that wouldn't compromise his beliefs meaning that eventually we would go to war with him?
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>>1545098
Aw fuck.
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>>1545102
Well to be fair you did convince him to compromise on his idea that the Mojave should just be purged and instead that the people could live and be put to use. So trying to convince him to change his beliefs wasn't a total failure.
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>>1545105
I take full credit for that accomplishment, by the way. Nobody wanted to give him the time of day even though he made some really good points.
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>>1545105
I was talking more about the BoS thing, if i recall correctly he still wanted technology in the hands of a few, a really tiny few.
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>>1545108
Don't you also remember QM said Elijah would never work under anyone? We can't have 2 empires in the Mojave.
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>>1545113
True, but you could have had one empire with two leaders.

Admittedly, I'd have had to call the quest Empire of Two if you unified with him.

>>1545110
"Tiny" as a matter of perspective really, the brotherhood for example could be a fairly large institution.
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>>1545098
See you say that but

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Auto-Doc_Upgrade:_Cosmetic_Enhancements

Is something we should already have from completing the DLC's. It allows you to change genders if I remember.


As to getting the time for the auto-doc to perform the surgery, just say that she is saying her final goodbyes / having a going away party.


>>1545108
Like hell you can. A large portion of that was me.

>>1545113
He said he would constantly test the leadership / abilities of his superiors to see if they are actually superior.
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>>1545113
He doesn't HAVE to work under anyone. We probably could have made him compromise on the idea of technology as well, then it'd just be his rigid control fetish. Which is actually a GOOD trait for certain kinds of governments, like the one we're trying to build. Brain even said his vision for the future was compatible with ours!
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>>1545115
>It allows you to change genders if I remember.
Unfortunately not, I checked after upgrading the Auto-Doc.

You can change appearance but not gender.
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>>1545114
>He said he would constantly test the leadership / abilities of his superiors to see if they are actually superior.
>>1523939
>You don't believe for a moment he would ever work 'under' someone though.
It ain't a test, he would be trying to usurp and take over.
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>>1545114
>>1545117
I do not want an empire with two or more leaders unless it's with Ulysses and Joshua.
Elijah doesn't have the style to roll with the cool boys.
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>>1545121
Well yeah, he would never work under someone. But the DLC ending did show he was perfectly capable of working alongside someone. Elijah would never play a subordinate.

It is interesting to hear that you guys would be willing to be subordinate to Ulysses or Joshua though. But they don't seem the leader type and even Joshua isn't fond of logistical condundrums. Well, neither is Legate Lanius.
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>>1545126
They are the only ones who deserve a leadership position, they are great guys.
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Gonna brb, anyway. I'll leave you guys a vote.

>Agree to his terms
>Refuse him outright
>Delay? Tell him you'll "think about it"
>Other
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>>1545145
What are Willow and Delilahs answers?
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>>1545146
How would you like to ask them

>Tell them the full truth
>Tell them a half truth, but leave out bits that might disuade them
>Tell them a lie
>Other?
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>>1545145
>Agree
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>>1545148
>Tell them the full truth
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>>1545148
Normally I make dialogue an anyone can post action but this has some weight to it that it deserves anon consensus.
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>>1545148
>Full truth
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>>1545148
>>Tell them the full truth
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>>1545148
>>Tell them the full truth
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Can't he just make a clone or something?
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>>1545161
No.
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>>1545145

>Delay
>Full truth

I'm pretty sure we'll have to go the honey pot route and kill him, dissect him, see if we can mix his DNA into soldiers.
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>>1545164
>see if we can mix his DNA into soldiers.
Let's not do that, the Soldiers will get unwanted traits.
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>>1545164
>see if we can mix his DNA into soldiers
If Crypto's general behavior isn't a great example of why splicing shit into your soldiers isn't a good idea, then don't know what is.
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>>1545148
>Tell them the full truth
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>>1545151
>>1545156
>>1545158
>>1545159
>>1545164
You call for Willow and Delilah.

>You
"I've called you here for something I need you two to consider, and I'm going to be as honest as I can be.

As you both know, we are facing a serious threat against Elijah. The technology and resources at his potential, even compared to us, makes him very dangerous. We need everything we can to fight him, not just to protect us but maybe even protect the Mojave and anyone else who would be killed by him.

The camp is suffering diseases, the threat of food and water shortage is never non-existent, and we can improve the livelyhood of not just the camp but everyone under our fold. That is why I sent a force to cleanse the alien spaceship and try to get their technology for the benefit of all.

But it's proven a disaster. I've lost 100 of our 600 securitrons, and five of our party's lives are at stake. ED-E, Ares, Milton+Hans, and Rusty have all been captured by the aliens (you sent in mostly non-humans)

There is some good news though. The aliens have taken some of my DNA and spliced it onto one of their own, who may be willing to become a defector. Not only could we rescue five of our companions, but we gain an insider who understands the alien technology, weapons, medicine, maybe even flight. This is a huge boon for us, especially after so many of our security destroyed."

>con't
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>>1545179
...I just realize how bad this all looks.
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>>1545179
>Willow
"If that's true, why did you call for us? This sounds like good news"

>You
[Because there's something he wants in exchange for his loyalty]

>Willow
"What's that."

>You
[Some of the things he want are reasonable, if a bit pricey. Booze, chems, creature comforts, a part of the ship to call his home when not fighting. We can afford that. It's the other thing he wants.]

You turn to Delilah

[He wants you]

>Delilah
"Me? What does he want me for?"

>You
[I'll be honest, from the way it sounds, he wants you for. . .physical reasons. His human DNA from me makes him very attracted to women. In fact, what he also wants is a new female companion every few months, maybe a year if he's entertained enough.]

>Delilah
"What! But-. . .no, first of all why would I ever accept that?]

>Willow
"That's awful Courier, how could you ask that of someone?"

>You
[I wanted to know how you felt about it. If you were willing to make a sacrifice for the greater good, for so many hundreds, maybe thousands of people who could benefit from alien technology]

>Delilah
"I- . . . I can't. I haven't told you yet, but I've actually proposed to someone. I just can't just be some. . .alien's escort!"

>Willow
"But why did you bring me into this? Why not just ask Delilah?"

>You
[Because I was worried if Delilah said no, I could convince you to take her place.]

>Con't
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>>1545212
100 SPEECH AT WORK BOYS
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>>1545212
>[I wanted to know how you felt about it. If you were willing to make a sacrifice for the greater good, for so many hundreds, maybe thousands of people who could benefit from alien technology]
>That fucking guilt trip.
This just makes me feel horrible.
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>>1545215
100 in a skill won't work miracles.
Besides, we chose the truth and nothing but.
No sugar-coating that.
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>>1545220
Theres a difference between the truth and a guilt trip. Phrasing for just the truth could be more clinical. He wants A and is offering B. Not if you dont A then people die
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>>1545234
Well we aren't guilt tripping. Objectively people will benefit from us getting the Z-tech and we are struggling even right now to meet our people's wants. Even if that is because of us being badly set up it is true.
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>>1545218
That's why you aren't fit to lead. No stomach for hard choices.
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>>1545239
Just kill the fucker, there is no god damn need for the hard choices.
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>>1545236
We can get it the hard way. We dont have to make the deal. Its one guy, and the qm isnt going to throw two unkillable bosses at us. The whole truth would include telling them about our other plans like the disguise and frontal assaults. Not make it sound like this is the only option.
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>>1545243
Except that loses out on every potential benefit. Anyhow we can take her back from being on ice when we are done with understand the Z-tech.

Better yet we could convince him to not put her on ice.
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>>1545243
And if it fails, what then?

We have a small chance of victory, and if we fail, we lose. Game over. No recovery.
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>>1545251
Thats all the time. Thats how every choice goes. Doesnt mean be a moralless douche
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>>1545212
>Willow
"But. . .why? Why /me/ of all people. Am I just another pretty woman to replace to Delilah in your eyes as a gift to a horny alien?"

Willow starts crying and even delilah looks distressed

>You
[No. Because I know you're a good person Willow, and though I can't force you to accept the choice, I was hoping you'd make the hard decision I can't. If you were willing to make a sacrifice for the greater good of so many people.]

Willows eyes are red with tears, but you can tell, she heard exactly what you said. One person, for the benefit of mankind?

>Willow
"It won't hurt will it? I mean. . .I'm not a virgin but, it won't be horrible right?"

>You
[I would like to say so Willow. Believe me I really do. . .but I can't promise you that either. I'll be honest, it could be pleasurable, or horrible, or both.]

Willow is on the verge of sobbing right now, you can tell she really wants to say no but at the same time her conscience won't let it happen so easily.

>Willow
"Do you really feel this is so important? "

>You
"In the least, it will improve the livelihood of those here for generations, much more as our territory expands. It may even prevent lives from being lost from Elijah's cloud."

>Willow
"I-. . please don't make me do this."

Dellilah steels herself and speaks.

>Delilah
"No willow. I'll do it. He wanted me not you. I'm a member of the followers, I made a pledge to heal the sick, If anyone is going to make this sacrifice its me."

>Willow
"No Delilah! What about your fiance? You have a family to start! It should be me."

>Willow, you can do this. You're brave, you'll be helping so many people
>Delilah is right. I don't think I could convince the alien to take Willow anyway.
>That's enough! I can tell neither of you want this, so I'm not going to. I'm sorry for bringing it up, I just had to be sure
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>>1545250
No it doesn't the only benefit we lose is having the alien as a companion, and that's offset by not having to sacrifice Willow, Delilah and several women.
We get the tech and we rescue our companions, no bad loss.
>>1545251
1, this >>1545253
2 it ain't impossible, we still have 500 securitrons and a stealth team to back us up.
>>1545255
This has gone long enough.
>That's enough! I can tell neither of you want this, so I'm not going to. I'm sorry for bringing it up, I just had to be sure
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>>1545255
>That's enough! I can tell neither of you want this, so I'm not going to. I'm sorry for bringing it up, I just had to be sure


We are going instead. Get that auto-doc online and upgraded, we are making some major internal changes...
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>>1545259
QM said we can't change genders >>1545119
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>>1545260
He said we could upgrade it to allow us to do so >>1545098 if you had bothered to follow the chain further back.


We have time to make a decision and we have the ability, if admittedly at a cost of some resources. So let's get cracking.
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>>1545255
>>That's enough! I can tell neither of you want this, so I'm not going to. I'm sorry for bringing it up, I just had to be sure
We'll negotiate face to face before this shit goes any farther.
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>>1545253
Morals are great if they don't compromise society. Even modern day governments kill and ruin people who probably don't deserve it in the name of keeping more people happy, healthy, and safe.

This decision could make or break the Empire we're trying to build. Your morals are nice, but they won't save anyone. Sacrifices need to be made. Either we lose Willow or Delilah, or we lose the future we were trying to build.

Freedom is ever bought with the blood of Patriots.
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>>1545263
>and you don't think the alien will permit a delay.
If you have something you think will delay the alien i'm all for it.
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>>1545255
>>That's enough! I can tell neither of you want this, so I'm not going to. I'm sorry for bringing it up, I just had to be sure
For somereason were being a mega dick avout it instead being frank
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>>1545258
>>1545259
>>1545264
I'm going to enjoy watching this asshole burn you all.
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>>1545255
Convince delilah. Losing one companion to save five is good.
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>>1545265
It is with the compromise of morals that the nation we are building is lost, how can we claim we're the best option if we are clearly not different between the Legion and NCR?
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>>1545268
Probably because if we were frank it'd be a definite no.
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>>1545272
What about our offerings to Dala. Or when we worked with actual rapists and torturers and criminals to kill NCR citizens and soldiers.
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>>1545274
I expectted a definite no. Asking was in the off chance one of them was hype about it. The very off chance.
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>>1545267
Well for one, we could imply that our companion's / us are having a "going away party" and thus he'll get his sex slave soon ("A week at the most, 4 days at the least. Most likely 5.").

Then we have additional crates of alcohol, fireworks, food and shit delivered to our companion camp. While we set up the improvements to the auto-doc.


Potentially we imply that we are having difficulty convincing them but we think we can do it and thus need more time before moving on to the above excuse.
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>>1545275
That was a fuckup that should have proven the point. Our attempt at pragmatism ended with gas attacks, murder rapes and a legion win. Go team
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>>1545270
I am going to enjoy this guy actually being a useful ally and us not rand-dumb-ly deciding "okay now that we convinced him to be a friend, lets go and sneak in and kill him!" like last time.
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>>1545274
So we're trying to squeeze the "Yes" out with guilttripping? At that point it ain't different from ordering them to go.
>>1545275
>Implying we don't all regret that.
So you're saying because we made a mistake it's ok to go full immoral for the rest of the quest?
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>>1545276
Yeah, I saw it as a simple formality, didn't expect QM to make such a big post

>>1545263
I don't see why we need to change our sex though? Just make us look the part from afar and we sneak attack him before he even realises what's up
That or we just snipe him from afar with the heaviest piece of ordnance we have
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They both breathe a sigh of relief, if shaken and slightly disturbed.

Well, now you have no one to offer to the Alien.

---

He's expecting a reply soon. What do you say to him?

>Tell him we need more time, perhaps to convince our women or that there are difficulties
>Tell him a frank "no"
>Tell him nothing, show silence
>Other?

---

>>1545286
>>1545281
I did it on the off chance you wanted to make it work, as mentioned a less vocal reply would have given an obvious no. And you didn't lie either, all of what you said was factual.
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>>1545281
Actually, everything went perfectly to plan.

The gas attack was not our fault and to be frank I should've checked that side quest (I didn't realise that was even in the game to be frank though).

As to the rest of it, a legion victory occurred because we rolled 1's and didn't use any boons to counter it because anon's were retards and didn't think 1's would end that badly. The murder rape attacks were entirely expected and intentional, hell if they didn't happen I would have been surprised.

It's the reason I wanted our military to move in and clear up after the attacks, it would have been good PR and resource efficient.


>>1545286
If you would actually refer to the linked post, you would see he says we need to upgrade it even if we only want to look superficially female. The specific reason for changing sexes is also because it will be useful in future.
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>>1545294
>Tell him we need more time, perhaps to convince our women or that there are difficulties

>Other?
Have the two of them be seen outside arguing with us, pointing to the ship and looking indecisive. To reinforce our point.
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>>1545296
You did not mention the murder rapes was part of the plan when you pitched it to us(I think)
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>>1545296
If it went as plan wede controll the mojave. We dot so it n
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>>1545176

I was making a joke. I don't want to deal with an army of Cryptos, it's like the Legion but semi-competent. I just want to give some psychic powers is all.

Let's not have Delilah or Willow fuck the alien. We butcher him.
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>>1545298
Supporting.
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Should we go in and negotiate in person?
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Quick question, does anyone remember what the alien shields couldn't block? I think it was fire.
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can i ask why some people want to turn this into a lewd quest?
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>>1545321
>can i ask why some people want to turn this into a lewd quest?
What makes you say that?
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>>1545299
It was kinda to be expected. It was the whole reason for making use of them, it gave us good PR to clear out the raiders who attacked the (good) NCR soldiers / government / people. Plus it meant we wouldn't actually have to pay the Fiends.


>>1545300
That was never the goal of the plan. That plan's soul objective was to weaken the NCR and Legion. Which it did. The only reason it failed is specifically because people didn't think 1's would be that bad.


>>1545317
Lasers to some degree apparently but fire too. Of course we could go with the classic of pugilism.
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>>1545327
I know how to fight the aliens. NAPALM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMUBWKJ5A_0
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>>1545321
>not sacrificing our dear friends
>lewd quest
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>>1545298
>>1545304
Anyone else gonna vote on a choice?
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>>1545294
>>Tell him we need more time, perhaps to convince our women or that there are difficulties
Get Riddick
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>>1545145
>agree
>>1545148
>full?
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>>1545355
You are late and should read >>1545179 >>1545212 >>1545255
Before making a choice.
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>>1545145
>delay.
Lots of goodbyes and such. Last chances
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>>1545298
>>1545304
>>1545348
>>1545367
You tell the alien you need to delay but plan on getting him what he wants as soon as you can.

>It
"Oh, I see. Alright then, I'l be waiting."

Updating turn
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>>1545370
Are we still receiving transmission from ARES?
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!NEW!
>>>>>Food: Above Average (Stable)
>>>>>Water: Average
>>>>>Medicine: Below Average (Stable)
!NEW!
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Wood (tiny) Scrap Metal (Very Low) Electronics (Very Low) Hygiene Supplies (Abundant) Booze (Plentiful)
>>>>>Fuel: Airplane Fuel (Low)
>>>>>Total Pop: 320 Humans (and companions) +40 Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Total Armaments (proportionate to the total pop) Below Average
>>>>>>Weapons: Type (Subtype, Amount, Condition)
-Conventional Melee Weapons (Legion; Moderate, Pristine)
-Conventional Firearms (Legion; Moderate, Pristine) (Mercenary, Above Moderate, Intact)
-Energy Firearms (Human Plasma, Moderate, Intact) (Human Laser, Moderate, Intact) (Alien, Disintegrator, Tiny)
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional (Below Average) Energy (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor/Uniorms:
(Salvaged Legion, Moderate, Pristine)
(Legion Centurion. Tiny, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Armor, Moderate, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Uniforms, Moderate, Intact)

---

Alert!

The greater biological research station is now converting excess Banana Yuccata into Salient Green. This has vastly improved food issues, though your water needs are increasing.

Immediately the followers begin producing medication from it, and now the medical needs have been resolved.

>Julia Farkas
"Now the issue of distribution of this stuff. It takes a lot of skill to properly use the stuff, not many people are that skilled.

The most efficient means would be to build a kitchen and public cafeteria, but we're out of building materials. Is there a building in the Crater we could convert one into?"

Alert!

You have almost exhausted your scrap steel and electronics from BigMT
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>>1545380
Visual feeds are offline, she may be blindfolded. Audio feed, mostly groans and yells.
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>>1545383
what available buildings are there in Big MT right now?
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>>1545388
Not to be a dick about this but by offline do you mean we just receive a black screen (blindfolded) or do we receive no data at all (offline)?
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>>1545383
Time to begin scouting for new sources of materials outside of Big mt. Begin the searching!
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Alert! The hemp has grown. Some new Brahmin are born.

---THE CRATER---
>>>>>Morale: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
107 Human
>>>>>Garrison:
6 Devils Brigade - Power Armor
19 Couriers Companions - Arcade, Doc Delilah, Willow, Ares, Cass, Raul, Veronica, ED-E, Rusty, Wendy Gilbert, Hazel, Desmond Harper, Vanessa, Joana, AXE MAN, Milton+Hans, Sonia, Riddick
200 Securitrons MK2
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
576 Robo Scorpions
>>>>>Prisoner: None
!NEW!
>>>>> Infrastructure: Higgs Village Warehouse [6 Intact Homes w/{Toilets, Air Condition}, Indoor living area. Raul’s Shack. Follower Hospital.). 5 Box Cars. Latrines. Plumbing Water. Heated Water. Indoor Ventilation. The DOME. The SINK (BigMT Command Center. The THINK TANK). The FORBIDDEN ZONE. Barracks/Training Ground. (Average). Lobotomite Pleasure House (Primitive). Constrution Site (Small). Y-0 Research Center. Scrap Performance Stage. X-2 Transmitter Array. Hemp Farm.
Chinese War Factory
Small Chemical Mill
X-12 Biological Research Plant

>>>>>Defenses: Radar Fence/Mountain Range. Laser Turrets (Few). Watch Towers.
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Riddick’s Charge Co. Dodger. 5 Bulldozers (Ruined) 1 Giant Crane (Ruined)
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (HUGE). BigMT Underground Reactors
>>>>>>Other
+The THINK TANK
+Dr. MOBIUS
+Unity
+Julia Farkas
+Arcade Ganon
+30 Allied Followers
+55 Captured Female Lobotomites
+67 Captured Male Lobotomites.
+20 Construction Bots
Boom Town Shooting Course
---THE BOXCARS---
!NEW!
>>>>>Morale: Average
>>>>>Armaments: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
213 Human
+40 Super Mutants/Nightkin
!NEW!
>>>>>Garrison:
2 Couriers Companions – Doc Mitchel, Doc Doc Orderly MD PHD DDS
+15 Mr. Orderly Robots
51 Child Soldiers “Freeside Rats”
11 Trained Regular Officers [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
59 Trained Regular Infantry [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
22 Trained Militia [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Veterans}
30 Militia Recruits [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Raw}
+20 Super Mutants
+20 NightKin
300 Securitrons MK2
>>>>>Prisoner: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: 19 Rail Car Homes. 15 Sheet Metal Homes. Latrines. Spring Well. Hazmant Truck Container. Radioactive Liquid Tank. Irradiated Water Tank (85% Intact) Clean Water Tank (Intact). Improved Public Baths. Public Washing Machines.
Banana Yucca Farm (Large)
Cotton Farm (Medium)
Small Chemical Mill (In progress)
>>>>>Defenses: Disease Quarantine Measures (Primitive)
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird, 1 Fuel Economic Semi Truck,
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (Adequate) {Shared from The Crater}. Electrical Poles

>>>>>>Other:
+Marcus
+Keene
+25 Herd Animals (Brahmin/Bighorn)
+6 Young Brahmin

6000 Sierra Madre Chips
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>>1545395
Did you just forget about the Alien issue?
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>>1545394
Sorry. The screen is black. You aren't able to tell if its because her eyes have been disabled or she is blindfolded. Or it might just be completely dark.

>>1545396
>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 47
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>>1545398
Nope but our Civ and military actions aren't applicable to modifying a auto-doc and we will need materials to do so.
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>>1545411
Actually with the followers they are, pretty sure we did do research before.
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Rolled 20 (1d100)

>>1545402
>Hero
Go to the Divide and look for Ulysses...but not for too long
>Civ
Begin looking for construction materials outside of The Boxcars
>Repair
Convert a building inside Big MT into a public Mess Hall.
>Military
Begin clearing out remaining threats inside Big MT.

Can we also consult our Brain and possibly Riddick about the alien hostage situation?
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Can someone post art so we can get a boon? With that we r]can reverse engineer the Sierra madre machine and win the alien hostage situation,
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>>1545425
>Brain
"If this fellow is anything like you, even I can't predict what he'll do or if his words are truthful. I'd be weary if I were you, you narrowly escaped last time."

>Riddick
"Alien menace, probably no different than all the others I've seen. Only safe thing to do is ensure it's dead. Can't guarantee saftey of your companions."
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>>1545446
Well when the QM posts his design sketches, I'll get right on making a cleaner version of those for the boon.
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>>1545459
Problem is I'd need to see what if any alien components you secure before I do that.
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>>1545471
>>1545459
Well shit.
How bout art of the hoover dam being broken and all our securitrons ending up washed away?
Or art about our domination of those superplants outside Big MT when we first arrived?
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Or maps, maps also give boons if i recall.
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>>1545479
Oh yes other art would be great. I wont give out bonuse like candy now, but art is always appreciated.
>>1545489
Maps will be relevant outside of BigMT
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Going to sleep, don't fuck this up please.
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File deleted.
Do we have a map of the Boxcars yet?
Because if we don't I'd be happy to make one provided the QM tell give me something to base it off of.
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>>1545521
Hmmm, lemme think on that.
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Rolled 65 (1d100)

>>1545402

>Hero and Riddick go in for a rescue/kill op.

>Civ- Get the Chemicla mill up and running

>Repair - The Robo bay that we are draining the water from into our new crops.

>Mil - Gotta train the military up more on the off chance aliens come out to get us.
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>>1545527
Just draw it in MS Paint and mark what's what.
I can go off of there and make it look all pretty.
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>>1545536
Correction, chemical mill IS up and runnning
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>>1545536
Dude change the Civ to
>convert building in Big MT into a public cafeteria
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>>1545549
Which one though?
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>>1545562
whichever one is big enough and not next to a bunch of bullshit
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Rolled 65 (1d100)

>>1545536

I'm all for this. Just kill the Xenos and steal their shit
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>>1545577
Problem- you want to collect more water, but that ends up in magnetohydraulics, out current water storage.
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>>1545588
I meant expand our water collection plant. Either via rain collectors or other things like that.
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>>1545594
It doesn't really rain here in BigMT, and for good reason.
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>>1545628
Is it because F:NV has no weather system?
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>>1545628
well fuck. can our Civ set up FEV Rnd shit?
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>>1545638
Its cause the Divide isn't that far off.

>>1545641
Gonna need to get those building materials
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>>1545647
What can they currently do?
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>>1545678
What do you want to accomplish?
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>>1545692
What is our current pressing issue besides our people getting kidnapped and What the fuck his face being with the ghost men?
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>>1545694
We need water storage and purification, we need better housing, and we should have a public cafeteria set up.
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>>1545402
changing this >>1545536
>>1545577

>Hero and Riddick go in for a rescue/kill op.
>Repair - The Robo bay that we are draining the water from into our new crops.
>Mil - Guard duty and patrol/recon for the locations where we can get lime and the other stones needed for cement .
>Civ - Try and get those mines secured and producing lime stone and the other needed stuff for cement
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>>1545708
That and we lack the materials to do it with.


Also we need to upgrade our Auto-doc sometime soon for the Alien plan to work.
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>>1545694
Thus far you have dealt with most immediate issues and have a stable source of food, water, and livable housing conditions. Now is the opportunities for improvement.

As mentioned
>>1545708
Water storage and purification but that is one of the many building projects yuo will need materials for.

Once you get a source of materials, your options are expanded.

The cafeteria and kitchen for example.
Several citizens and the brain have ideas for morale improvement buildings and technologies
and the Brain wants to work on robotics technology to improve living and military standards
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>>1545731
Some immediate examples would be setting up a cotton jin and a large sewing machine to make new clothes, beds, and curtains.

Glass making ovens for windows.

Spending an action with the Chinese Factory and some steel to give more people pots, pans, plates and silverwear (or at least keep these in the cafeteria)
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Rolled 89 (1d100)

>>1545536
>>1545585
>>1545724
[LOCKED]

hmmm.
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Give me a 1d100 pls
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Rolled 18 (1d100)

>>1546085
Uh Qm, you listed me twice in that senpai. I never deleted the old post though because it had my roll?

>>1546094
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>>1546096
Right, I was linking the roll.
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Rolled 97 (1d100)

>>1546094
Slow day at work and here I see.
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Rolled 59 (1d100)

>>1546094
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>>1546108
That was so close...
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>>1546130
we don't want 100s anymore. we got 3 already. the next is a 1
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>>1546182
we only got 2 100 actually, and 3 1
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>>1545577
You begin draining the Magneto Hydrualics Plant, hastilly digging a second lake near The Boxcars. While a risk if anything were to happen to that lake and understandably it means some of the water will be lost to seepage and evaporation until the under-soil is saturated enough to hold a lake, it will free up the old robotics plant.

People are tempted to swim in it, but you have forbade it in case of disease.

Some of the raw militia recruits are soon drilled into raw troops.

There really aren't any many additional sources of water here really, asides Big Mountain's spring (which would have made any other settlement in dry areas fantastically rich). The air is too dry for humidifiers, and its still too dangerous and costly to just manufacture it from hydrogen and oxygen.

The only real other source would be the replicators but that would of course consume steel and water.

The only other avenues for additional water would be to treck it or pipeline it from far, far away. You are in the middle of the old Commowealth's San Bernadino county.
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>>1546236
We can't drill down into the aquifer the Mangneto Hydraulic water came from?
Also which side of the mountain is the Boxcars next to? Like which of the exit tunnels is closest?
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>>1546269
You can too but the spring in the Magnto Hydraulics plant is already quite large.

East. Headed toward Baker.
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>>1546236
Meanwhile, you and Riddick proceed to sneak your way into the Alien ship to rescue your comrades. The map the alien showed included the surgical operating room and the freezer compartment, which is where he likely would be. On the way you will be passing by the armory, so you decide to do a checkup on there as well.

You make your way to the armory and find an odd discovery. The 100 securitron wrecks are gone.

What's even more startling is finding the aliens are gone too. The barriers are down, and all you find are corpses. Alien corpses with big holes in them bleeding on the ground.

But the most noticeable thing you find is that the alien weapons are gone too! Rows and rows of alien armaments and stockpiles, shields, and other items just vanished without a trace, the walls lined with alien blood. What happened here?
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>>1546295
CRYYYPPTTOOOOOOOOOO
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>>1546295
As if in response to your question, you and riddick hear movement down the hallways.

You see Alien Robots moving. A lot of alien robots moving. But these are different from the last design you saw. These aren't hover drones but walkers on legs, much faster, and they don't carry those big pulse guns either, they hold what looks like large heavy calibre autoguns. You spot them finding an alien and immediately execute it, then taking his gun and crushing it to shreds with their bare hands.

This mass of newly designed alien robots seems to be coming from the Robot factory, and headed in two directions. The Chinese Camp and the outside!

What do?
>Fight! Stop them!
>We're not blind. Deploy the garrison. Go out and warn the others!
>Ignore them, hopefully our military can hold the line long enough even if surprised. We have to rescue my friends
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>>1546309
>Ignore them, hopefully our military can hold the line long enough even if surprised. We have to rescue my friends

IGNORE THEM, THIS IS TO BAIT US OUT. CRYPTO KNOWS WE'D STOP.
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>>1546236
It would probably be more efficient to set up an outpost near one of the rivers / lakes to pump water into big trucks, which would then drive it back here.

Do we have the capacity to make either nuclear fusion or fission batteries for vehicles?
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>>1546309
Crushing our loot AND splitting our choices?
QM you sadistic fuck
>Ignore them, hopefully our military can hold the line long enough even if surprised. We have to rescue my friends
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>>1546309
>>Ignore them, hopefully our military can hold the line long enough even if surprised. We have to rescue my friends
CRYPTO GODDAMNIT
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>>1546316
Nope. But you can make Ethanol now.
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>>1546323
I'M SURE THE DEATH BOTS WILL ENJOY A NICE TALL GLASS OF CORN FUEL
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>writing
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he betrayed them
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>>1546309
>>Ignore them, hopefully our military can hold the line long enough even if surprised. We have to rescue my friends
Should we try helping Crypto now? He did prematurely help us out. Er, I'm not sure why he did it this early.
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At least Crypto appreciates the finer points of kinetic cartridge based weaponry.
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>>1546351
he wants to rape our women. He's got to go.
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>>1546364
I find it hard to believe we're "related" at this point.
I mean he certainly has out protagonist powers, but that's it.
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You decidedly sneak past these soldier robots, and make your way for the surgical room.

In there, you find nothing. Nothing but surgical tables and bizarre looking instruments, it's clean. Next door is a freezer compartment.

>Spend time to look around the room
>Go somewhere else to investigate
>Other?
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>>1546309
>>1546364
>>1546367
Why does Crypto want to experiment or rape on our women so badly? Is this something related to Zetan upbringing or genetics?
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>>1545016
>"It's where I store specimens when I'm not using them or bored, then I wait until I'm not bored of them to use em again."
>>1546384
>Next door is a freezer compartment.
They're probably in the freezer.
>>Go somewhere else to investigate
To the freezer room.
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>>1546384
>>Go somewhere else to investigate
Check the freezer.
If he's killed any of our people, he's decidedly fucked.
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>>1546384
>Ask Riddick what to do.
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>>1546384
>Spend time to look around the room
clues or hints of where people went.
He's one guy, how does he do all this?
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>>1546385
Personally you think that strongly to be the case, your penchant for gathering large followings of attractive female companions and human libido does explain his 'collector' attitude, and occasional sadistic tendencies mixed with his alien upbringing and possibly zetan intelligence might explain the other aspects.

Of course this is all speculation.
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>>1546384
>>Spend time to look around the room
Try to look for where it might be interesting to go next
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>>1546405
We should ask him about this later, see if we can't make him see the way of the Harem Route.
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>>1546405
I wonder if we can challenge him or make a bet with him.
Like a poker game or a fist fight.
Seems like something the Courier would do.
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>>1546412
that requires sharing. And sharing is not caring, when its your women.
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>>1546425
Well to be fair you do share your companions with each other. Mostly Rusty.

But hey, Killer Teddy Bears don't count.
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>>1546456
We got killer teddy bears?
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>>1546395
Yes.
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>>1546412
>>1546425
I was thinking in the context of helping him find his own girls to harem. You know, in the context of him finding people to have an attachment with so he isn’t such a depraved, genetically bastard child.
>>1546456
What's Rusty's harem like?
>>1546465
Yeah, perks of the Wild Wastelander trait.
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>>1546477
eh, he had his chance to settle with whores. He got greedy, and greed is not good for him.
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>>1546477
I'd refer you to one of the posts where he would stay in Dr. Dala's house with some of your other companions
>>1546485
To be fair, neither would you

----

You walk down the rows of the Freezer compartment. You see rows and rows of many things. Men, children, elderly. They are wearing clothing from so many bygone eras and ones you don't recognize, and there's at least one you recognize as an NCR trooper and a few Chinese troopers. There's also some non-human things like Ghouls and Super Mutants and animals you haven't seen before. Strangely, despite there being little girls and elderly females, there's a distinct lack of women. Some of the freezer doors are open and leaking fluid.

You don't find any of your companions though.

You wonder where to go to next.

>What do
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>>1546498
robot factory. He must have recently went there to take control, so there might be clues.
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>>1546498
Robot Factory.
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>>1546498
as I said, Ask Riddick. The guy who came with and knows how to kill/hunt these fucks.
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>>1546498
>>1546513
Support. I figured the freezer would be the place he'd store them.
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>>1546513
Riddick didn't come with these guys.
He's Furyan. Not Furon or Zetan.
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>>1546524
I never said he came, I said he knows how to kill these fucks. The man would know some shit about them.
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>>1546540
>The guy who came with and knows how to kill/hunt these fucks.
>who came with
but I get what you're saying. But Crypto is a rogue element.
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>>1546540
Oh, misread your post.
I think all he knows is that they're a bunch of big headed fuckers with advanced tech.
But hey, he's been around so maybe he does know something useful.
Then again, Courier-Crypto is a super unknown element.
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>>1546396
>>1546513
"These Zetan's. I've heard of them. Not very well liked in other sectors of the Galaxy. Don't form empires on the ground, just live on giant colony ships. No one knows where or what happened to their home planet. Have superior ship and weapons technology, but unfriendly. Few people willing to wage war on them, and they stay away from those able to fight them off. Heard rumors they like to experiment for the sake of knowledge. Knowledge without a purpose. Pure curiosity. Lucky your planet managed to take down two of their ships from the inside. Almost unheard of.

If this one has your brain, maybe he thinks like you. Might be able to anticipate him."
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>>1546551
CALL OUR BRAIN, ASK WHAT IT'D DO. THEN PLAN AROUND IT.
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>>1546551
>If this one has your brain, maybe he thinks like you. Might be able to anticipate him."
Thanks Riddick. So the solution is to go where we would go in those situations?
>>1546555
lol, sure.
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>>1546558
>go where we would go in those situations
The armory, the engine room, and anywhere else that might be important.
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>>1546405
>>1546555
By the way, doesn't our Brain have 5+ intelligence over us though? What's Crypto's intelligence? If it's the same as the Brain's then he'd think like him, if not then he'd think like us.
>>1546561
Hm, true. What about the Robot Factory? The one where they're all churning out their forces?
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>>1546506
>>1546510
>>1546521
You go to the Robot Factory, its on the other side of the ship so its a lengthy journey. Oddly you no longer encounter any more robots.

You find more dead aliens, shot up with bullet holes or their heads crushed like watermelons.

There aren't any robots you can see here. What you find is the robotic assembly line.

It's smoking, melted in places, and on fire and small alarms are blaring. In a large smelting pot feeding the machine you find ruined pieces of Securitron.

Still no companions to be found.

>What do?
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>>1546617
Check the armory.
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>>1546617
>>What do?
>>1546555
Talk the Brain for suggestions. It looks like Crypto's going all over the ship tearing it up, he's probably taken our companions with him for some impromptu revolt on the Zetan mothership.
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>>1546656
The Brain is in the forbidden zone. You cant recieve any radio communications inside the Zetan Ship.

Would you like to leave the ship and talk to the Brain?
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>>1546665
>Would you like to leave the ship and talk to the Brain?
How long would that take?
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>>1546656
the bridge.
Maybe has security station to look around with, or maybe he wants to sit in the captains chair.
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>>1546617
wrong link >>1546671
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>>1546671
didn't we kind of destroy the bbridge with an overlord tank last time we were there?
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>>1546670
It's been a couple of hours traveling to and fro the ship. Probably 15-30 minutes of walking up and down hallways, stairs, twisting corridors and paths. Longer if you decide to crouch sneak
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>>1546687
>>1546617
>>1546401
Follow the tracks and any clues left behind. He must've left some evidence on where he's going on his crusade.
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>>1546698
The only trails you can find is the smell of gunpowder and alien blood leading to armory.
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>>1546712
check the hanger bay.
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>>1546712
>The only trails you can find is the smell of gunpowder and alien blood leading to armory.
> to armory
>>1546295
>You make your way to the armory and find an odd discovery. The 100 securitron wrecks are gone.
God damn it, did we just go backwards?
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>>1546722
the problem with thinking about what he's thinking is we think he's thinking like we think, and we're schizophrenic with multiple voices in our head.
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>>1546726
More like around than backwards.
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>>1546731
>More like around than backwards.
Does that mean we've been around town?
>>1546729
>the problem with thinking about what he's thinking is we think he's thinking like we think, and we're schizophrenic with multiple voices in our head.
>we're schizophrenic with multiple voices in our head.
>The Courier’s schizophrenia is what makes him a Quest protagonist.
So how's Crypto Quest coming along, Crypto QM?
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Okay QM. Give us some options as to where to go.
I doubt most of us even remember the layout of the ship.
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>>1546750
Let's see, place's you haven't checked yet there's the Bridge, the Fighter Bay, The Giddyup Containment Room, possibly an Alien Barracks, the Generator Room, the Garbage Room, and the Chinese Base. You do remember the Chinese base does have a large population of women in it too. Also the Observation tower at the top of ship.
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>>1546771
>Bridge
Bridge sounds like the only major place he'd go to, unless he wanted to kill everyone at the Alien Barracks. Hm...
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>>1546771
THE CONTAINMENT ROOM.

Send Riddick to the chinks.
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may be just try an find the command center?
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>>1546771
>>1546782
How many companions do we have with us at the moment?
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>>1546771
Split up.
Riddick scopes out the Chinese village
Courier takes the Bridge
If either of us don't find anything, we head back to the other.
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>>1546800
Just you and Riddick
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>>1546795
which is the bridge, on a ship.
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>>1546801
1 for Split Up
>>1546795
>>1546777
2 for Bridge
>>1546782
1 for Ohgodwhy + Split up
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>>1546771
>>1546804
Got it. So let's split up, we get the Bridge while Riddick gets the Alien Barracks. I don't think he'd have a reason to go for the Chinese Base unless he thought he could convince them to stage another invasion.
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>>1546771
Let's see
>turned our securitron scraps into killbots
>had them (or something else) clean up the ship and destroy every weapon
>sent them toward the chinese camp and outside
>took all our companions and all females of age and fucked off somewhere
So I can see him being at the camp to supervise an assault the camp is still manned by chinks right?
That or the bridge "because it's the bridge" seem to be the most likely place, perhaps the fighter bay as well if he's planning an escape? Does the fighter bay hold some transport ships?
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>>1546820
>I don't think he'd have a reason to go for the Chinese Base
He probably heard that Chinese pussy tastes like orange chicken or some stupid shit like that
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>>1546771
>>1546405
>>1546743
So curious, does Crypto also have schizophrenia and multiple personality disorder?
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>>1546836
yes actually.
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>>1546820
Another for split up (different targets)

am i gonna have to tie break or can you guys agree to a choice?
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>>1546853
Finnnee
I'll change to
>Head to the bridge, no splitting up
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>>1546819
>>1546853
Well if we need to agree on a choice, then the place Crypto would ultimately want to go to is the Bridge. He's way ahead of us so he should be somewhere there by now.
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You and Riddick make your way to the alien bridge, still with the giant hole in it from the Overlord assault. The chinese are supposed to be garissoning this place, where did they go?

Oddly now, the windows to the outside are shut down behind metal blast shields. And despite the smashed consoles, there's a single working one that looks like it was rebuilt with a single button, with wires connected to the windows.

>Press it
>Ignore it. Search somewhere else
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>>1546898
>Press it
its probably a vid of him bragging and laughing.
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

fuck it I'm too tempted but logic screams at me
1 is push
2 is leave
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>>1546898
>Oddly now, the windows to the outside are shut down behind metal blast shields. And despite the smashed consoles, there's a single working one that looks like it was rebuilt with a single button, with wires connected to the windows.
Either it's a message Crypto left for us, or it's a trap.
>>1546898
>>Ignore it. Search somewhere else
Check to see if the terminal is trapped.
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>>1546898
>Press it
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>>1546906
>>1546921
2 for press
>>1546907
1 for leave
>>1546911
1 for double check
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>>1546950
changing to checking the panel
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Brb not done for the night
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>>1546950
Double check
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>>1547049
>>1546954
>>1546950
LOCKED

Writing
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>>1547156
You check the device itself making sure there are no wires leading to anything suspicious. Sure enough you see one attached to a strange device, and disable it.

A hologram appears in the center of the room, and the window shutters go down revealing the outside world.

To your horror you see little explosions and laser fire throughout the Crater, and a medium sized alien spacecraft floating above it.

A hologram of It appears in the center of the room.

"Alright this is a recording so listen up.

I figured you were gonna try something shifty after that wormshit bluff of yours. I sat down and thought to myself 'if I were the human and I needed alien technology badly, but not bad enough to give away one of my squeeze's, what would I do?'.

Lie that you needed time, sneak in and try to kill me, rescue your friends, and get the ship and the trimmings ain't it?

So yeah go fuck yourself asshole. I want to say it would have been nice to work for you, I might have enjoyed it, but I guess you'd just betray eventually even then.

I'm taking my specimens and my stuff, and I've blown up any salvagable tech. You can have the ship. Also I'm taking that doctor bitch, would have taken the Chinese one too if it weren't for that stealth team of yours. Have fun with the robots, I made them using parts from yours and mine."

As you look out the window you see a faint figure being lifted up by a beam of light beneath the ship, before it turns around facing east. A small funnel pops open beneath the ship and fires at the barrier, causing it to fizzle for a brief moment, just long enough for the ship to blast away.
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>>1547517
AAHHHHHHAHDASDHAHSJKDJLASDEWIGHIWKNO FUCK
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>>1547517
but we went in like, right after we ended the call? how did he have the time? its not like we actually tried to fake being delilah.
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CHOOSE:
>Switch to the Battle while the Courier (Rushes for the Chinese Base for reinforcements!/Rushes to the Outside)
>Switch to DanDan in command of the Chinese base while the Courier (Rushes for the Chinese Base for reinforcements!/Rushes to the Outside)
>Continue the Courier
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>>1547543
>Riddick
"It sounds like he prepared to betray his comrades in advance, probably before he even heard of you. Probably knew the Zetans were going to lose, wanted to see if he could negotiate with humans. Planned for two contingencies if talks succeed or fail. Knew there wouldn't be much time if he needed to act. When he felt he couldn't trust you, he put it all into motion, maybe even as the words left your lips."
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>>1547545
>Continue the Courier
chase him down and get our people back. Fucker.
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>>1547558
>>1547545

send Riddick to go fight the robots, Let us keep going as the couerir.
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>>1547545
>Switch to the Battle while the Courier (Rushes for the Chinese Base for reinforcements!/Rushes to the Outside)
We have a nuclear powered tank, chase him to the ends of the earth.
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>>1548235
Also get someone to shoot at the shit with the artillery cannon we have in the Big MT, maybe even Hellion too.
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>>1548236
*Helios.
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Gonna be busy again until later today, feel free to ask questions/discuss while I'm away
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Wonder if the Gunner's station on the crashed UFO still works...
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>>1547580
I support this
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Okay. So two things:

one, I called this you fucking fools (>>1545282, I hoped you wouldn't pull this shit), you shouldn't have betrayed the nice alien and you shouldn't have betrayed Elijah;

two, we need to get to salvaging as much of this tech as we can even in it's damaged state we might be able to learn enough to understand their tech's basic concepts. Maybe not enough to replicate their standards of tech but it should advance ours significantly.


...In future, we don't try and dick over people OKAY? Cause the last two times, 100% of our attempts, it has FUCKED us up the ass.
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>>1548395
>you shouldn't have betrayed the nice alien
>Nice alien.
Oh wow, you actually believe that.
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>>1548402
He was willing to work with us. To be frank that is nice in my book compared to the other aliens.


Also, if that is the biggest and strongest argument you can present against me, then I am certain I am right.
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>>1548404
>He was willing to work with us.
In exchange for women, and i don't think he would care if they were forced to have sex with him.
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>>1548410
Even better then seeing as we could supply him with 40 women and it wouldn't even equal the fucked up shit we did to the Mojave region.


Seriously, anon's have been retarded lately thinking we can manage to kill people like Elijah or this Zetan. People of roughly equal intelligence and often planning or preparing for confrontation with us. If we had worked with either or both of them, seeing as their requests were quite reasonable and entirely possible to fulfil, we would currently be so much stronger that I can't even conceive of it.

Hell, chances are we could've gotten our companion back given enough time: once he tired of them and we had enough...subjects, drugs, alcohol, or other shit to entertain him, that we could give him more than his maintenance rate as payment.
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>>1548410
I feel like we could have afforded delilah and one woman a few months easily
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>>1548417
Just because giving him 40 women wouldn't equal the mojave incident doesn't mean it isn't morally wrong.
You also seem to have forgotten the guy wants to OWN the women we give him, have them as possessions.
And weren't you all about getting the consent of the women? How do you explain the relief of Willow and Delilah when we said we wouldn't send them? >>1545294
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>>1548418
Well we could afford alot if we treat people like currency, but that aint how things work.
>>1548417
He keeps them when hes done and even if he did give them back, there is no guarantee of their state. He could be giving us barely alive mutants or something.
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>>1548426
I mean, it was obvious what the alien really wants is slaves, but I feel even 1 companion and a few women now and then was practical for what was being offered. We could have abducted some from the wasteland too instead of giving away our people.

Now we don't have delilah and five of our companions are missing, plus a robot attack and who knows what else.

That nat1 really fucked us up, I think the 100 was the opportunity we just rejected for moral and good karma.
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>>1548417
Nah, his demands were unacceptable and we could never work with him
>I have needs you know so I'll need this and this
>No this isn't enough I specifically want this
>No this still isn't enough I want you to sacrifice this and this for me
Fuck this guy
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>>1548434

Seems to me we have Caesar here anons. We're not him or Elijah, we're not giving women to an alien to get fucked for tech.
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>>1548426
>Just because giving him 40 women wouldn't equal the mojave incident doesn't mean it isn't morally wrong.
True but I am past the point of morals seeing as us being moralistic has now cost us...5 companions, however many combat losses we take and potentially all this tech / industry plus two useful allies and their resources.

>You also seem to have forgotten the guy wants to OWN the women we give him, have them as possessions.
Eh, I accepted that already and was hoping once he got bored of her we could convince him to let us buy her back in return for additional women / increased deliveries.

>And weren't you all about getting the consent of the women?
Nope, that was just to get you guys to accept it. I couldn't give two fucks but I wanted consenting women or companions.

>How do you explain the relief of Willow and Delilah when we said we wouldn't send them? >>1545294
They didn't want to be sexually used by a alien-human hybrid for his strange experiments and urges?


>>1548432
>He keeps them when hes done and even if he did give them back, there is no guarantee of their state.
There is some degree of a guarantee of their state, seeing as he uses them sexually until he is bored of them and then stores them until he has an experiment he wants to run on them. The idea being we buy them back in this interim period.

>He could be giving us barely alive mutants or something.
Unlikely. Seeing as he has access to Lobo's and numerous stored humans for that sort of thing.
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>>1548434
Which is kinda a crap 100 to be honest. It was basically you can get what you wanted if you beat rex to death with a rusty pipe. And then he just fucks off, destroying the objective. Because of a 1.

Honestly all this just makes me feel bitter. Like its a fuck you for not being a raging asshole.
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>>1548440
>Nope, that was just to get you guys to accept it. I couldn't give two fucks but I wanted consenting women or companions.
Well you're a giant ass.
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>>1548437
To be frank, we would've lost literally a useless companion who's sole thing is being sexually attractive plus an additional women every few months along with some drugs and alcohol.


In return we get:

1) Great energy weapons - no longer available.
2) Great energy generators - no longer available
3) Great robotics - currently trying to kill us/
4) Great genetics manipulation tech - no longer available.
5) Alien flight tech - no longer available.
6) So much other bullshit - no longer available.


>>1548442
I'd point out I did want them to be consenting but I was willing to make use of immoral methods to make them so. Such as getting sex slaves outright for him from the wastes, drug addicts and rescuing slaves from the Legion in the understanding they'd do this in return and other such things.


I like my morals but I understand that I can only have them because I have the resources to spare. If I enforced them outside such circumstances they would be the mill-stone which drowns me.
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>>1548441
Maybe in the end it will pay off, like who knows maybe accumulating good karma just by not choosing bad choices will have an actual benefit
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>>1548450
It doesn't. Outright it doesn't.


If such a thing was a mechanic, I feel OP would've mentioned such a thing or hinted at it.
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>>1548449
The thing is putting us in such a situation where its "lose the moral fibre or get fucked" is such a dick move. Even for a 1. Especially for a 1 with a 100.
If we dont get them back and or get them back and nothing else ill be disappointed. This felt so railroady.
Fallout has always allowed you succeed while being moral without basically shooting yourelf in the foot with a mini-nuke.
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>>1548449
Fair point, I have no idea who this Willow is or what she does, but my thinking is we can't work with someone who'd keep asking us for an inch
Oh well, water under the bridge now, we should think about how to salvage this instead
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>>1548453
You don't know the ending of fallout until it actually happens. Then all the choices you've done come back to you. We're you cruel or were you kind. Did you spare a faction, kill them, or do dark deeds for them.

In the least, hopefully those close to us can understand our decisions like Arcade.
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>>1548455
You lose karma for killing house, even if you play a good NCR run. In ten penny tower either you help the ghouls kill the inhabitants or the inhabitants kill the ghouls. If you divert the power from helios 1 to the mojave, you don't get the archinedes.

Sometimes there's really just a lot of grey choices and sometimes the good ones result in a loss, but at least here we can say a moral choice was picked.
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>>1548461
Yeah, but making a good choice never outright dicks you like this.
Being bad gets you more, but being good comes with its own immediate rewards.
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>>1548465
Alot of those choices are grey, but they dont directly affect you badly.
Also archimedes is a bonus for not making the good choice. If you make a good choice you get science books and follower friendship and other stuff. Good gets you less, not nothing, or loses.
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>>1548455
>The thing is putting us in such a situation where its "lose the moral fibre or get fucked" is such a dick move. Even for a 1.
It really isn't.

>Especially for a 1 with a 100.
That is true. They should cancel out and we go with another, eg the third, roll or go in favour of the positive outcome to reflect that life isn't literally a 1d100 with a 50/50 split between good and bad outcomes.

>If we dont get them back and or get them back and nothing else ill be disappointed. This felt so railroady.
True, it feels like OP sets up a path for us to take slightly and then punches us in the face for not going with it.


But on the other hand anon's are being retarded and thinking we can backstab people who are just as smart as us and aware thus we would be trying to do so.

>Fallout has always allowed you succeed while being moral without basically shooting yourelf in the foot with a mini-nuke.
Not true actually. Fallout 1's starting town and various other places either punish you for being moral or logical.
>>1548459
>Fair point, I have no idea who this Willow is or what she does,
A mod companion seemingly but not some miracle tech expert or anything too useful. Just a cute blond with some combat skills.

>my thinking is we can't work with someone who'd keep asking us for an inch
That was because he wanted assurance we weren't going to back-stab him, in the form of us giving up a close friend / ally to show our willingness for good relations.

>Oh well, water under the bridge now, we should think about how to salvage this instead
There is nothing to salvage. However I hope anon's will stop being fucking idiots and thinking we can beat the smart NPC's with fairly simple plans.

>>1548461
>You don't know the ending of fallout until it actually happens.
That implies we are going to let this game end.

>Then all the choices you've done come back to you. We're you cruel or were you kind. Did you spare a faction, kill them, or do dark deeds for them.
True but this would be the equivalent of a neutral outcome: for the greater good, we commit a personal evil.
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>>1548466
In fallout that's definitely not always true. You don't get much for defusing the bomb in megaton, and you lose out on a sweet suite, but dad appreciates it when he finds out.
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>>1548474
Well I can imagine the followers and our immediate companions will approve that we didn't engage in slavery. Why not ask them.
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>>1548466
>Yeah, but making a good choice never outright dicks you like this.
The only good ending choice in FO3 was to die even if you had companions who could survive the radiation. That sounds like dicking you over.

>Being bad gets you more, but being good comes with its own immediate rewards.
Not in many cases.

>>1548474
True.

>>1548476
This is also true.
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>>1548475
Well it was either betray him and he fucks off. Refuse and he fucks off or accept. It was a non choice that results in us losing regardless.
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>>1548480
We just lost all that alien tech, got attacked by the alien tech and could've avoided it all by sacrificing one person.


They should be pissed as fuck with us or at least not happy.


They might like the fact that we didn't "enslave" someone, even though we asked them and they were semi-willing, but I think the deaths and losses elsewhere might counter that a bit.
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>>1548481
Well then they made broken steel and you survive. The whole ending was stupid because bethesda.
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>>1548483
Our choices were thus:

1) Don't betray him but refuse.

2) Betray him by:
A) Attacking
B) Infiltrating

3) Accept.
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>>1548481
I wouldn't use F3 as a base for arguing anything desu
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>>1548488
>Well then they made broken steel and you survive.
That was a cop-out as your companions will, if they would die from the rads, die if sent in instead of you.

>The whole ending was stupid because bethesda.
Doesn't matter if it was stupid, based off of your statement I have still proven you wrong.


>>1548491
I'd use another game but I got finished watching a let's play of it recently and thus it was easiest to remember.
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>>1548476
Thats not losing something, thats not getting a reward. And im pretty sure somebody gives you something for defusing the bomb.Being good resulted in delilah being taken from us.

Also we lose 4 companions from a single 1 is excessive
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>>1548493
But they made it, so the cop out proves my point. Being good doesnt actually hurt you, gameplay wise.
>>1548489
So refuse and he fucks off, betray him and he fucks off or accept. Thats what i said.
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>>1548489
Maybe we should have politely said no, but promise we would not attack him.

At least then he'd see we were honest. How about next time we can't accept someone's proposal we don't immediately use treachery on them.
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>>1548496
Actually our current losses from that 1 are:

100 securotrons
ARES, ED-E, Delilah, Mary-jo
ALL THE FUCKING ALIEN TECH SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK
However many assets we lose to the robots he made
More shit I missed
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>>1548484
Well not just one person but a person every so many months, explicitly as pleasure slaves.
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>>1548501
And we got a 100 that was the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals. Its fucked.
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>>1548499
>But they made it, so the cop out proves my point.
Your logic is dumb as shit. They just wanted your money and couldn't be bothered to think of a reason.

>Being good doesnt actually hurt you, gameplay wise.
It does. Objectively you can't enjoy all the content of the game.

>So refuse and he fucks off, betray him and he fucks off or accept. Thats what i said.
I suppose so.


>>1548500
That would probably be for the best but we could have accept this offer and we could have accepted Elijah's offer.
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>>1548504
Yeah but the thing is that they can be the useless fucks we don't need or want or even trouble makers.

We could also have used it as a thing for slaves and shit.


>>1548505
Yeah, OP fucked us raw for no reason. Even Genie's 1's are less harsh without a 100 cancelling them out. Not saying he did a shit job yet but it seems, feels and tastes like a rawer deal than the shit america did to the natives...


Seriously OP, the fuck.
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>>1548506
Yeah, I mean, he literally sat down and thought if he was us what would he do.

And he was exactly 100% right. We would lie to delay and then infiltrate. He knew what we would instinctively do. If we showed him honesty, it might have been different.
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>>1548506
You said they made it, so my point is wrong even if betheda is stupid. And then they made dlc that means my point is infact not proven wrong and it doesnt count? Stip cherrypicking either all bethesda made counts or it doesnt.

Being good means you dont enjoy gameplay of being bad, but it works the same in reverse. Being bad means you cant enjoy the good storylines.
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>>1548510
You must not have been there for Genies ealier civ 1s, they can be incredibly horrifically harsh. Civ ending even.

This robot attack is going to hurt, but it's not an immediate impending lethal event like a tidal wave of horrors.
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>>1548512
But that means no matter what we choose he knows thats what we do. If we say no and assault he would predict that and leave. If we say no and do nothing he knows this and enjoys being free of any retribution while keeping 3 companions.
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>>1548512
That is very true but the courier and him should be very different people, based simply off of what the courier has dealt with and experienced.

>>1548513
>You said they made it, so my point is wrong even if betheda is stupid. And then they made dlc that means my point is infact not proven wrong and it doesnt count? Stip cherrypicking either all bethesda made counts or it doesnt.
My point is that you said in fallout being good causes no penalties. I stated it did in FO 3 since you are meant to die. You then stated the DLC meant you didn't. I argued that your companions died in their endings and thus the DLC having you survive was a cop-out so people wouldn't have to play through again.

>Being good means you dont enjoy gameplay of being bad, but it works the same in reverse. Being bad means you cant enjoy the good storylines.
Actually, being bad you can still enjoy the good story lines just not all of them depending on what you do precisely in each run.

>>1548515
>You must not have been there for Genies ealier civ 1s, they can be incredibly horrifically harsh. Civ ending even.
Because he wasn't used to balancing them out. OP shouldn't have such a problem since he should have plenty of experience from other quests as to how strong to make your penalties from the examples set by other, more experienced, OP's.

>This robot attack is going to hurt, but it's not an immediate impending lethal event like a tidal wave of horrors.
It kinda is. Unless you are telling me the massive army of death machines coming to kill us isn't a threat.

>>1548516
>But that means no matter what we choose he knows thats what we do. If we say no and assault he would predict that and leave. If we say no and do nothing he knows this and enjoys being free of any retribution while keeping 3 companions.
Yeah it is really fucked up. I get the feeling OP needs to rethink this whole thing or at least re-balance our rewards from a 100 and our penalties from a 1.
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>>1548529
Youre special. Really special. You surviving while others dont isnt completely out of the question. Especially if you have rad based perks.

So you dont get the full gameplay being bad? You still miss out.
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>>1548542
>Youre special. Really special. You surviving while others dont isnt completely out of the question. Especially if you have rad based perks.
Except that isn't a thing. Seeing as it is done by dialog menus and shit, they could have included a script to detect you having a perk and thus being able to survive. Yet they didn't.


It would be the exact same as the way you get additional dialog routes from having confirmed bachelor.
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>>1548543
Im talking about in universe not as a stoty writer.
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>>1548549
The universe is made by the writers. Also, even in Universe you aren't that special.
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>>1548551
Well then the writers want you survive making the good choice.

You're nineteen and can end up with all max stats and attributes. Youre special.
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>>1548574
Huh. Ip changed.
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>>1548574
>Well then the writers want you survive making the good choice.
No, the owners of the company write their pay checks and they want you to survive so they can sell you an expansion.

>You're nineteen and can end up with all max stats and attributes. Youre special.
That is true but to get that is quite difficult. Also, it's a game, if they didn't make you pretty powerful chances are you'd never survive your first encounter with the Enclave.
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>>1548529
If anything all of that should tell you w shouldn't have done something obvious.

If we showed honesty or something not expected, we'd have an advantage
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>>1548529
It's a threat also, but it's not like a threat of literal waves of monsters pouring in from underground the sky and all around us while our entire army is being decimated and our heroes are all missing and we lost our strongest hero and none of our weapons are working and our tactical plans just do nothing.

Thats a genie style 1
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>>1548839
Aye but I wasn't in favour of betraying him. Ever.


It's just I knew I had to go to sleep sometime and then anon's would perform their retarded plans, so I decided to let the inevitable happen because I am a very tired man currently.
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>>1548846
Nah, a genie style 1 would be losing all of our robots (like what happened) and the alien's counter attacking successfully or us securing the armoury only to find out that they rigged it to blow and thus losing our robots and it's contents.
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>>1548585
You cant disregard things that happen because the writers notives are bad. How do you know they didnt make vanilla 3 end in a sacrifice because corporate made them?

We can only go with how things are and in the complete version of 3, if you do the right thing everyone lives
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>>1548839
Not really. Honest or deceitful, no matter what the conversation would have ended and wed immediately go to kick his ass. The only difference is how agreeable we sound saying goodbye. He still would have fucked off and destroyed our shit..
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>>1548897
Are you really defending the writers of the abomination that is "fallout" 3
>I fight the good fight with my voice on the radio
>[Intelligence] Ah, so you fight the good fight with your voice on the radio
>Wow you're pretty smart
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>>1548908
No im just saying thats how things are. You cant pick the example to disporove my point and disregard the fact it does prove it, because the company wanted money.
Thats also why they made fallout 3 in the first place
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Look, my whole point in the first place was that OP gave us a raw deal and that anon's probably shouldn't try and betray such smart / prepared characters under the assumption we can just sneak in and kill them and shit.


However we must now focus on resolving the current issues facing our civilisation before focusing solely on advancing rapidly by securing additional technology and researchers by the improved lobotomite procedure.
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>>1548934
The betrayal didnt matter. Its not like we took extra time. We said we'd do it, then webt to kick his ass. It took the same amount of time as if we said no, then went to kick his ass. Regardless, if we we went against hin the results were the same.
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>>1548945
Except we didn't plan to just go and attack him directly, we just all decided to sneak in.


We could've attacked them and succeeded seeing as they couldn't stand up to all of our forces.
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>>1548956
We went in immediately and he was already gone. It wouldnt have mattered if we brought an army or not
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>>1548964
We didn't go in immediately. We wasted time debating with him, then talking with our companions and then we did an actual turn rather than just getting every asset we could and throwing it at them.
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>>1548994
We went immediately after negotiation finished. The negotiations which were a reward for a 100. And we went in
with the very next hero action. Implying immeduately after we hung up. We did not waste any time.
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>>1549000
Look we are splitting hairs, my point is this: we fucked up dealing with this and Elijah, I think OP gave us a raw deal this time round and we'll probably still have to deal with this shit either way however so we'd best get planning.
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>>1549010
I just see people blaming anons because they lied to the alien, when lieing didnt affect anything. It should be recogbized that this was a railroad and it was a lose lose. We even beat the qm roll this turn.
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>>1549023
That is quite true not to mention the fact that we didn't get a chance to resist the alien attack and a bunch of other shit.


Honestly I am just a bit tired of the bullshit OP is pulling with Elijah and now the Aliens. Where seemingly ever time we get what we need to advance our civilisation greatly or deal with our problems, he throws a giant problem in the way.
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>>1549053
A seemingly invincible one at that. Elijah i can aaccept. Hes the disk 1 boss. Cesear is the mid-boss. Fine. But this was supposed to like a miniboss tops. Its a side quest. And we get fucked so hard because of a single 1. The 100 was literally useless. And when we beat his roll we still lost.
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>>1549063
Not even that, apparently the 100 "allowed" us to talk with this cunt.


This piece of shit was our 100. Yet he feels like our 1.
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>>1545066
>You guys did roll a 1 and a 100, so I had to offer an outlet to make an absolute loss salvagable somehow and get what you are after, for a price. Otherwise this would have been a terrible disaster for you
>>1549053
>>1549063
I get the impression the QM wanted us to diplomance Crypto to make use of that 100 and compromise our ethics, just like we had to when we spent that boon to get the Super Mutants supplies a few threads back. The QM did mention spending a boon would get us results, but have some ethical quandaries as a result. This could be a similar situation.
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>>1549074
Its not diplomacy. It was flat out extorsion. He wouldnt budge, and infact added more terms just as we were coming to an agreement.
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>>1549074
Except that would be bullshit. He established that as being how boons work, not 100's.


1's have been objectively bad shit like us losing the battle of the dam thanks to the Legion pulling a underhanded trick.

Yet seemingly our 100's have been situational shit that is only good if we are willing to accept some losses.


The imbalance works against us.
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>>1549074
What did he say, everything has a price. Funnily enough the price here we could afford at the same time it was too much.

Oh well, as for the 100 amounting to zip I'm used to this in streloks quest too.

We had a 1 and a 100 roll for an action resulting in a major AI corruption that infected many of our bots, including the one a hero was in. We didn't know what the 100 was at the time. Turns out when we decided to purge the bots to stop the spread, the 100 hero was in there so we lost the bots and got no hero essentially we got nothing.

This feels a lot like that. But it was sort of our choice.

The recurring theme here seems to be that if we refuse to make deals with the devil for power, we keep our soul and integrity. Isn't that more important to our nation than any technology?
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>>1549114
The problem becomes if the qm thought there was a chance the deal would go through. A choice he knows we wont accept is not a choice. Its literally just padding the run time.
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>>1549098
Isnt a boon an instant 100? Was that not established?
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>>1549086
I didn't say that the negotiations weren't extortion, I was referring to the sort of talks we had with Unity back when we thought she was related to the Elder Gods. Of course this is significantly different since Crypto's a dick.
>>1549098
>>1549114
To my understanding, the 1 we rolled was Crypto, the 100 we rolled was essentially paying an abhorrent tribute to have Crypto turn sides. As to the imbalance of crits... eh, probably.
>>1549123
Technically we could take the choice if we happened to be less upstanding folk, or the Courier went that direction, but he and we didn't so eh.
Best case I could imagine was getting Crypto and the Courier to have private talks so the Courier could adopt him as a bastard son to teach him how to not be morally bankrupt. Maybe he had some parental issues before he betrayed the Zetans?
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>>1549123
Who says the choice would never have gone through I and at least one other person supported it. It was never on stone

I still think we should have gone with it
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>>1549114
>The recurring theme here seems to be that if we refuse to make deals with the devil for power, we keep our soul and integrity. Isn't that more important to our nation than any technology?
I don't know, I guess this is why the other factions in this setting are dicks or incapable of meeting those standards.
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Funny thing is that I'm 100$ sure that this wouldn't have gone this bad if we didn't roll 100. QM wanted to give us all of the rewards for a relatively low effort. At worst we could have just mitigated the failure by not being a lying dick

If we were smart (lmao) we might have been even able to convince him not insist that we force females to be his playmates.
I haven't read all of the player posts this thread, so I'm not sure if these have been said before. Here are some ways that we could have convinced him:

"Listen man, I talked with the women you asked for if they would agree and predictably they are reluctant. Not everything is lost though, they were not completely against the idea, making sacrifices for the greater good is how we have survived thus far.

Now look, you know I can't simply agree with that request. I know that you know, because we are made of the same stuff. You wouldn't give up your women for anything, right? Let alone force them.

You said that you don't use mind control, that you like "breaking" them in so, to speak. If you are as intelligent, charming and eloquent as I am, and I think you are, it would be just a small challenge for you to make them yours the normal way.
Your alien appearance would be just a small turn-off which you could easily work around. Believe me, I've traveled far and wide and I know that deep down people are open to all kind of weird kinky shit, being together with an alien is probably one of the milder stuff one could do.

You and I are the same. I might be a dick sometimes and do things that benefit me but one thing I've never done is to use my power and influence to force myself on women. It is just so much more satisfying to do it with a willing partner. I'm sure you would love to it that, I know, because I do.

You were stuck among these insane maniacs that you don't like and who don't like you in return. Your actions were influenced by the environment that you lived in and people around you. Get out of there, and you'd prefer get women "proper" way, since that is more fun.

From all the interactions I've had with Zetans and the things I know about them, you are more human than a Zetan. I have a companion who is a leader of horribly mutated people. I promised her that we will work on a way to make their appearance human again.
Perhaps you would like to change yourself to look like a human? With your smarts and Zetan technology we could combine our efforts. If you did that, then you would practically have no problem getting pretty much any woman in the Wasteland.

You are afraid I would betray you but, think about this. Why would I? I'd much rather prefer you as an ally. And I'm sure you would too. Like I said, we are and think alike."
Sorry for the wall of text. I'm sleepy and tired, apologies if it is a mess.

Too bad I wasn't around to influence the outcome.
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>>1549180
Nah we didn't say anything like that. The discussion was that the anons who were against it found it too abhorrent, didn’t trust Crypto with much else, and didn't see any redeeming qualities in Crypto worth having further negotiations over. The ones that who were for deal or alterations to it didn’t say much on how to convince him otherwise to my memory, myself included.
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>>1549180
He already said no to seducing women. And sounding like you want to tip your fedora isnt helping.
The problem wasnt being sneaky. It was saying no.
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>>1549196
>He already said no to seducing women. And sounding like you want to tip your fedora isnt helping.
>>1549180
The point of his argument isn't on seducing women or tipping his fedora, it's on trying to guide Crypto to being a more normal and less wonky individual by establishing some common ground. The seduction part is how he's trying to bridge the gap in that regard.
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>>1549198
Unless he likes being a shallow perverted asshole. Then You just sound soft
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>>1549203
>Unless he likes being a shallow perverted asshole.
Are you referring to Crypto?
>Then You just sound soft
Can you clarify that statement?
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>>1549114
I was in that quest, trust me, it was a very different situation.

For one, in that quest we were the one that acted rather than the aliens / AI. As we decided to purge, rather than this situation.

For another, we only had the possibility of danger no certainty.

And lastly, we weren't actually at risk of losing anything by acting later which seemingly we were here.

>The recurring theme here seems to be that if we refuse to make deals with the devil for power, we keep our soul and integrity. Isn't that more important to our nation than any technology?
Fuck no.

>>1549127
I'll go and find the post I am referring to but he essentially stated they are rewards / bonuses with strings attached: primarily of the moral kind. Not instant 100's nor counters to 1's on a 1 to 1 basis.

>>1549140
Nope, the 1 was our attack failing utterly. The 100 was him as far as I remember.

>>1549180
I doubt it would have worked but hey, we can only dream.
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>>1549206
Yes. Implying he wont want to change and be more human.
And by soumding soft i mean sounding weak or desperate.
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>>1549217
I wouldn't know about that, we'd have to ask Crypto, which we didn't before the extortion negotiations ended.
Crypto does take a number of attributes and personality traits from the Courier, so there could be a chance that he wants to, but we'd have to ask him about that. I wouldn't know much about what Crypto's life was like, but he did say he was a pariah amongst the Zetans and possibly abused during his accelerated childhood(?).

>>1549214
>Nope, the 1 was our attack failing utterly. The 100 was him as far as I remember.
Really? I thought the 1 and 100 were both Crypto causing it. It sounded like that from the way he apparently destroyed 100 of our Securitrons.
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>>1549233
Lots of murderers had shit childhoods. Doesnt mean hugging it out would work. Or gentle encouragements to find his humanity.

1 was he wrecked everybody 100 was he talked to us.
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>>1549193
>didn’t trust Crypto with much else, and didn't see any redeeming qualities in Crypto worth having further negotiations over.

Another funny thing is that Crypto was modeled after the Courier which we have played up to this point, maybe a little bit worse because he is still part Zetan and lives among them but mostly Courier nonetheless.

We need to realize all the self-serving and dickass moves we have done.

No matter what our stances are, we worked up the trust in 3 major powers in Mojave and then back-stabbed and betrayed all of them.

In our desire to weaken them all equally we worked with (I'm sorry, we "USED") criminals, murderers, warmongers and such horrible monsters that I am incapable of describing them.
All of which failed so spectacularly that we are now directly responsible deaths and worse of countless civilians.
Yeah, yeah, I know, it was double 1. But a lot of that is still our responsibility. (Amusing how that double 1 seems so much milder than this single 1 and nat 100)

In a lot of choices that QM presented in the first threads on how we have dealt with different situations, where we could have selflessly helped people, the prevalent choice was to ignore. Done that way, because we wanted to see how it can help us in future (like leaving powder gangers, Omertas, fiends, etc alone).
While not evil per-se, it shows that we are not willing to help fellow man if we are not getting something out of it.

Stealing is second nature for us like breathing.

We are unfaithful and fuck everything in sight. Apparently. Though we have only fucked Unity since the quest started. (Probably the main reason why negotiations failed)
We need to accept the fact that Courier is not "good", probably not "neutral" either. I wouldn't be surprised that our Karma score is and "evil" right now.

Crypto is the consequence of our actions. The character that we have played put before us. And it is ugly, very ugly so.
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>>1549233
I feel like this is actually the real true ramifications of our 1, we had already known we'd lose 100 bots and companions, but the actual alien assault was delayed by the 100 hero that was spawned, and that was our chance to use or lose it. What happens now is a continuation of that 1.
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>>1549259
Or maybe we were just lucky not to have impregnated the others.

And yeah crypto is an amplified version of our personality added with zeta upbringing for experimentation.
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>>1549255
>Lots of murderers had shit childhoods. Doesnt mean hugging it out would work. Or gentle encouragements to find his humanity.
It could if we're talking about the Courier and all the companions with their inhuman attributes. We’ve got the Macguffin Facility and apparently the Lone Wanderer’s canon.

>>1549259
>Crypto is the consequence of our actions. The character that we have played put before us. And it is ugly, very ugly so.
So Crypto's our evil mirror son that's going to put us on a vision quest while the BigMT burns around us?
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>>1549276
He likes to collect and fuck only the finest women. Apart from the alien surgery nonsense that's pretty much us.

He's also willing to utterly betray and plan how to kill an entire faction, which the courier can do on any run but here we did it to all three, though the legion got away cause of bad rolls.
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>>1549255
Actually it does. While it does not undo murders, rehabilitation works wonders.

It is exactly because they had shit childhoods, upbringing and influence that they believe that they cannot be anything else. Making them believe that they can be somebody else, that they can live fulfilling lives and be helpful to fellow man can drastically change people.
Not all cases of course, but many.
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>>1549289
Yeah rehab is a thing but it takes alot of time. Not one conversation to make him see the error of his ways.
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>>1549303
>Yeah rehab is a thing but it takes alot of time. Not one conversation to make him see the error of his ways.
Do characters like Commander Shephard exist in this setting?
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>>1548378
You send Riddick off to deal with the situation in the Crater and fight the robots. He nods and starts sprinting off. Hopefully his enhanced night vision will be useful here.

Meanwhile you yourself have the option of following him. You could also go to the Chinese Base, see if they need any help and then use them as reinforcements, or attempt something else entirely such as going to the rooftop.

>What do
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>>1549303
I thought QM was using the Bethesda canon?
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>>1549320
Is going to the tank faster than going to the rooftop?
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>>1549320
Go to the roof top. And get ready to challange our son.
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>>1549320
Let's go to the Chinese Base, the Courier would have a better chance on rallying them and gaining their support than Riddick would.
>>1549326
>>1549327
Or this depending on if Crypto is there and if it'd be faster.

>>1549322
He's using most of the canons, but I don't think the Courier's like the Lone Wanderer in that regard.
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>>1549320
Rooftop
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>>1549326
The Chinese base? Yes, there's a big tank shaped tunnel that way
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>>1549331
I was just poking fun at the retarded F3 dialogues where you can convince eden to kys himself with a simple speech check for example
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>>1549333
To the base then, so we can get our tank.
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>>1549340
Heh, yeah. I meant the same.

>>1549320
So is there any weaknesses Crypto has that we can exploit?
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>>1549233
All I know is that it feels like we are getting more so screwed over than we should.

>>1549255
To be entirely honest the two don't feel equal do they?

>>1549259
That is a rather cruel and strange way of looking at it and suggests you believe that outlooks and behavior are entirely genetic in nature.

>>1549266
Unlikely but entirely possible.

>>1549351
Seeing as he fucked off on another alien ship, no.
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>>1549362
>That is a rather cruel and strange way of looking at it and suggests you believe that outlooks and behavior are entirely genetic in nature.
It shouldn't be, but this is Fallout and the Zetans we're talking about.
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>>1549362
Also everything we do is in the pursuit of a greater goal. We're an idealogue. We're not a dick for the sake of dickery. If he was like us he'd have a cause, rather than fuck bitches fuck everybody.
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>>1549385
Whose to say he doesn't have his own hidden agenda. If he's anything like us, immediate appearances are shallow and decieving.

There might be a reason he's doing his experiments beyond solely morbid curiosity.
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>>1549390
>There might be a reason he's doing his experiments beyond solely morbid curiosity.
What, like the FEV?
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>>1549320
Chinese base
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Rooftop
>>1549327
>>1549332
Chinese Base (LOCKED)
>>1549331
>>1549341
>>1549418

>Writing
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>>1549372
True.

>>1549385
This. If anything this behaviour proves he is nothing like us.
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You follow the giant tank tread tracks down and back to the edge of the familiar simulated landscape. It is nightime, replicating the same time outside down to the stars though you know it to be a simulation.

Your feel a dread in your heart as you see also the Chinese Base quiet and covered in smoke and the smell of battle, and walk inside. It feels quiet and dead.

As you make your way to the gate, you sense movement, and prepare to fight when around you invisible figures leap down from the walls. Your V.A.T.S. can't target them, but you draw Big Iron out anyway, when the one directly in front of you uncloaks.

It's Dandan!
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>>1549457
Dandan pulls down her visor, and talks. You hear it on the base intercom.

Your Chinese has improved enough to understand the jist of what she is saying.

"[We have] been lead by the [Messenger] since he arrived and freed us from the Nightmare. Since that day, we have never had to fear the [Alien] again, rebuilt the Bawang Tank, stepped out into the [true world] rebuilt China again in a new land, brick by brick.

I was there, however, watching the Messenger. I spoke with his brain, his mind, when he walked into his forbidden temple. There I saw that he had followers captured by the Alien, was able to speak to it, face to face on [Vision Radio]

The Alien [offered him trade]. If he would give women, his own people, as slaves the alien would offer him all he had. [Technology], weapons, power. He brought his two [wives] and asked them each if they would be slaves to the alien.

As I watched this, I knew what had to be done. I knew that if he would sell his own people to be slaves to the alien, it would not be long before he sold us. We who had fought our whole lives against the alien, seen too many of us killed or already enslaved."
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>>1549498
really? you're going like that? you make us sound like a raging douchebag for a formality, and now DanDan betrays us over it?
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>>1549498
OP. Choose your next post carefully before you alienate (it's kinda a pun) your user base. I'd like to think she would have confronted us before now about this if she had a problem.

More importantly, WE DID IT IN FUCKING PRIVATE, she shouldn't have been able to see that shit and also assuming that isn't good enough and also because it is a good point, SHE KNOWS ENGLISH and therefore understood everything we said, so why would she be pissed with us if she knows we didn't send them and that we were only checking if they were willing.

Also if you she would have heard us say
>That's enough! I can tell neither of you want this, so I'm not going to. I'm sorry for bringing it up, I just had to be sure
as that is the option we chose!
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>>1549532
"I would have ordered us to prepare to fight and break out, to flee from this place. But I continued to listen.

His wives refused.

And then he refused the Alien.

He refused to sell them as slaves for power.

The Alien struck back. Attacked, even as he went to rescue his [Comrades]. Attacked us, here, with invisible robots.

But we prevailed! And now we see the true honor of the Messenger. He who fights against an empire of slavers, who would not sell slaves for power.

Now we have prevailed against the Alien here, we shall defeat the alien in the [true world] and be free of them forever.

Rise up, oh China, rise up and fight the oppressor! Mao Zedong and China Eternal!"

And as if on cue, you hear a mighty roar erupt from the whole base, as hundreds of armed chinese appear, armed and ready for battle, the Overlord Tank rolling down the street. To your amazement, you see that many of the Chinese are bearing stolen Alien disintegrators, hand blasters, and other weapons. A select few of them seem to be even holding jurry rigged weapons that merge human with alien weapons parts.

The entire Chinese Base has come out to fight, even the women and some of the older children.

Dandan walks up to you

"We are with you Messenger.

What do you need of us?

>What do?
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>>1549555
...never mind then...seems you weren't going for that dick move then...I retract my statement.


>What do
What is the Chinese equivalent of "BANZAI!"?
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I told you guys, everything you do has a Pro and a Con. Good and Bad. A price to pay, a reward to earn.

You might not always get things exactly the way you want them, but you'd be surprised the ramifications of your actions have.

I'll be honest this would never have happened if you didn't ally the Chinese to have them scavenge and search the alien vessel while you were busy with other affairs. Also your nat100 stealth team.
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>>1549567
Also had you accepted Crypto's deal, you'd be fighting alongside your alien space clone to kick ass of some rebellious Chinese Communists in the name of America and Capitalism right now.
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>>1549555
cleanse the mothership and find us a working scout ship
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>>1549567
I'll hold my anger in check in future but to be fair my logic seemed sound as to where you were going with this, which you were and we would have.


We can deal with this...I suppose.


>many of the Chinese are bearing stolen Alien disintegrators, hand blasters, and other weapons
Get them to store those away, they are too valuable to lose.

>A select few of them seem to be even holding jurry rigged weapons that merge human with alien weapons parts.
Those too, they'll give us insight into how to combine and improve our tech with theirs.
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>>1549555
>Kill every alien, and do not show any mercy to them. If you find the bastard in charge. Expect him to be able to fight like me and think like me. Let us go forth and kill ALL of them.

>Tfw all you can hear is 'china saves the day'
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>>1549560
>>1549584
2 for Attack!
>>1549582
1 for Store away the Weapons?
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>>1549649
Attack BUT store away any alien tech / weapons they have / can grab.
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>>1549663
>DanDan
"These weapons are very effective against the Robot's stealth shields. They disintegrate away a part of their armor, which makes it easier to spot them in the dark.

Are you sure we should put them away?"
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>>1549666
Put away enough to study later, use the rest
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>>1549666
So long as they can protect them and their users from disintegration, they can use them but I would like at least one or two of the outright alien weapons left behind so we can study them later if things go badly.


I must leave now, to sleep.
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>>1549671
we'd only be out of luck if every chinaman died and all their weapons were destroyed. We'd have plenty if things go well.
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>>1549680
By enough I mean 1 or 2 of each, should be enough
Besides yeah we'll loot plenty more off dead xenos during the cleansing
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>>1549695
You've got like, at least a dozen or so examples on your inventory.
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>>1549704
Perfect, let's purge xenos with extreme prejudice already after quickly stashing 1 example somewhere for safeguarding just in case :^)
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Making these battle calcs, oh boy
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>>1549649
>2 for Attack!
>>1549704
Support attack.
We've got enough copies, every man gets the best gear they can get, no holding back in defense of the motherland.

>>1549584
Is this the start of the New United Nations, possibly the Phoenix Union if we wanted to go for a cooler alliance name?
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>>1550216
Union implies equals. They're vassals right now. Mostly because the culture penalties would wreck havoc on the happiness.
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>>1550251
>Union implies equals. They're vassals right now.
Well yeah. I couldn't think of any better names at the time.
>>1550251
>Mostly because the culture penalties would wreck havoc on the happiness.
>culture penalties
I feel like I'm in Crusader Kings 2 or Europa Universalis 4 now.
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>>1550257
good thing we're a fertile genius. just have to set make sure we don't have gavel kind and everything may be alright.
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1550287
I don't know if that'll help us as much when our Intrigue stat is such shit we fail most of our plots, even the ones we've planned for months in advance. We should consider hiring a Spymaster to alleviate that.
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>>1550307
nono, we need a foreign princess to secure an alliance. The big question is do we adopt Islam for the polygamy, or zoroastrianism for the concubinage.
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>>1550328
>nono, we need a foreign princess to secure an alliance
You're right, who do you think would fit that? We already got Dandan for vassalage. Does Unity fit the bill?

>The big question is do we adopt Islam for the polygamy, or zoroastrianism for the concubinage.
This is the post-apocalyptic world we're talking about, it’s not like they remember those religions. Make our own religion with whatever we want. It's not like there'll be religious uprisings as soon as we attempt to do so.

>>1550307
>>1550287
I missed such a simple linking error.
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>>1550328
See you say that as a joke but it is a method of gaining the support / unifying with tribals we will encounter as we grow. So really, chances are we will be marrying more princesses than you can deal with.
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>Attack!

>You
[So how did you manage to fight off the stealthed bots this time?]

>Dandan
"It was difficult, even with our stealth suits. They would fire from one position, then move and fire from somewhere else, hitting them was not easy.

But we have a secret weapon, one which can detect units in stealth."

>Dandan
"Our infantry transport vehicle. It has a built in mini-radar for detecting stealthed units in short to medium ranges, and is resistant to small arms and sniper fire. Unfortunately, this model does not have protected gun ports so infantry must step out to engage any enemies. But it does provide some cover! You can put some medics in it too."
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>>1551638
You and the large band of Chinese forces leave out the door of the Alien Spaceship.

Immediately the troop transport detects robot snipers in waiting at the front, which the stealth team, yourself, and dandan dispatch with relative ease.

You survey the scene before you. What you see is mostly missile and gatling laser fire from your securitros firing off at unseen targets, probably in retaliation against sniper fire, but here and there you see destroyed or damaged securitrons on the ground.

Multiple fires and cratermarks from the missile useage on various buildings.

You can immediatly see the Little Yangtze barracks and the Chinese War Factory, and see little flashes of heavy calibre sniper fire no doubt pinning down unseen troops taking cover inside.

Your pip boy radio keeps giving you static, someone somewhere is jamming the frequences.

Dandan says she has troops with field telephones and wires on standby. You have the Bawang Tank, the Troop Transport, and 247 Chinese Conscripts plus yourself, DanDan, and her stealth team on standby.
>What do
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>>1551643
Can we not chase the ship?
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>>1551645
It was very fast, you aren't sure how you'd track it and even if you'd have enough fuel on your vertibird or Riddicks car to do so.
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>>1551647
Then it's time for plan 2.
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Quick question, is the hangar containing all the alien scout craft still there?
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>>1551656
You didn't check, though you can imagine he probably didn't leave behind much for you.
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>>1551658
Even if he destroyed the scouting crafts as long as we have enough salvageable pieces to learn the tech that made them the plan will function.
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Should probably make a new thread soon
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>>1551697
I'll archive this thread too, can you give me a description?
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>>1551705
Communists, Aliens, Kidnappers, another day for the Courier
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Thread is now archived.
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>Meanwhile

"Look boss, look! Dere's dat NCR convoy with da fuel trucks you waz talkin' bout ya?"

"Course it bloody is, you daft? I'm always right. Oi, teams, are you lot all in place?

Melissa?"

"My team is ready Niner"

"Cyan?"

"Ready to make em bleed and cry."

"Motherfucker?"

"Motherfuckah! Motherfucker, motherfucker. Motherfucker."

"Vincent Vincent"

"Ready to fuck their shit up"

"Alright, stick to the plan. We wait for em to cross the gorge, then we sweep at them from every angle. Don't. Hit. The. Fucking. Fuel tanks. Got it?

Alright, time to kick some NCR ass. Get cracking!"
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>>1551643
Don't forget to vote!
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>>1551886
Good to see my plans are still having it's intended effect.


>>1551643
>>1551915
Begin moving to the largest concentration of fighting and our forces with the APC and Chinese troops.

See about using the field telephones to establish communications with Brain and thus our actual forces. Get them to start pulling out to reinforce us, if we move as one with the detection APC we can more easily beat our enemies. If they can't escape or can hold their positions without risk, they should await our arrival.
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>>1551643
>Your pip boy radio keeps giving you static, someone somewhere is jamming the frequences.
>>1551923
Support. Our first target should be removing the jammer so we can contact the other base.
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>>1551931
The jammer causes little problem for us, seeing as the securotrons are still functioning in an organised manner and we can communicate to them via the Chinese to Brain who can relay messages to the rest of our forces.
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>>1551643
>Your pip boy radio keeps giving you static, someone somewhere is jamming the frequences.
>>1551940
If that's the case, what are they jamming besides our pip boy radio, contact to the outside world?
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>>1551952
The Alien might be a perfect clone of us but he can't know everything. Perhaps he thought it would distract us, perhaps he thought it would disrupt some of our plans and forces but he lacked the knowledge our forces don't rely on radio communications for the most part.


That and the fact that the securotrons, which he seemingly thought were quite good but inferior to his products, are somewhat immune to EM interference. As House designed / got them made to work after and during a nuclear war against whatever he needed them to so they should have resistance to this sort of thing.
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>>1551643
>and see little flashes of heavy calibre sniper fire no doubt pinning down unseen troops taking cover inside.
>>1551966
Fair enough. Any targets we should focus on? The snipers, the largest concentrations of enemies?
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>>1552029
The snipers, our forces can handle the more conventional ones themselves but only we can reliably hit the invisible bots.
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>>1551923
>>1551931
[Locked]

Who do you wish to send to the Forbidden Zone while your main body moves to the heavy fighting.
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>>1552228
I suppose logically you'd want to do it yourself, hmm.
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>>1552263
>>1552228
Ourselves because thats where the cheaky cunt would be.
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Rolled 37 (1d100)

Someone roll me a 1d100 please
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Rolled 95 (1d100)

>>1552313
ded
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>>1552313
>Rolled 37 (1d100)
>>1552314
>Rolled 95 (1d100)
nj m8.
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The Chinese Force head to Little Yangtze, where the bulk of your garrison is being pinned down by the snipers.

You yourself take some of the stealth team with you, and several spools of telephone cable, and run your way through the Crater towards the Forbidden Zone.

You see that the front door has been blasted open and hear the sounds of battle inside. As you step in, you see flashes of electromagnetic pulse blasts all around you.

"HA HA HA HA! YOU WILL NEVER SURVIVE MY GIANT ROBO-SCORPION!"

The X-42 Giant Robo Scorpion is disabling the robots with its electromagnetic stinger, then dicing their bodies with its pincers so they can't get back up.

Hey, Dr. Mobius is being useful for once.

You make your way to the door, past some piles of dead alien robot bodies, and you see its barricaded. You hear your brain's voice on the intercom.

"It's him. Open the door!"

You step inside, and are relieved to see your Brain and Dr. Mobius safe and sound.

>Brain
"What's going on out there? All of a sudden I lose almost all of my vision and then the front door starts being attacked by invisible robots that just get back up after you shoot them."
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>>1552332
>What do
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>>1551643
>Your pip boy radio keeps giving you static, someone somewhere is jamming the frequences.
>>1552332
>"What's going on out there? All of a sudden I lose almost all of my vision and then the front door starts being attacked by invisible robots that just get back up after you shoot them."
>>1552336
Is the Brain getting jammed, or did the Securitrons get ambushed really badly?
Let's tell him of the intel we uncovered and Crypto's preemptive betrayal.
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>>1552332
>Okay, Alien has my DNA and its thinking like I would and we're playing a giant game of chess. What do you guys think I should do? Cause you're an unknown factor and smarter then my base me.
>His using invisable forces, We can get the way to detct them via the phone line.
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>>1552332
adding onto this>>1552346

>CHECK THE ROOM ENCASE HE WAS SITTING OUTSIDE AND TRIED TO SLIP IN TO STRIKE WHILE WE SPOKE. DO THIS FIRST.
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>>1551638
>It has a built in mini-radar for detecting stealthed units in short to medium ranges,
>>1552343
>>1552346
On another note, radar works great for detecting cloaked units. We could use that for clearing out the Tunnelers after this.
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>>1552350
Supporting.
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>>1552343
"Oh bother yet another potentially powerful ally spurned hostile due to an implacable incompatibility with your morale code?

You could have at least tried not to immediately betray him.

Seems to me this is either some larger distraction to give him time to flee in his spaceship, which he has, and that he's simply decided to set them to expend themselves in revenge on you."

>>1552346
"Well it is good you sent the Chinese too the barracks, that should free up most of your human forces in the Crater.

What we're facing is a lack of communications. Ideally the first place you should go to is the X-2 Transmitter Array, that is likely where they may be jamming our frequencies.

. . .maybe. It could also be they are doing it remotely. That would require triangulating the jamming frequencies from 3 corners of the Crater. That's a chance you'll have to take.

But remember as you do this other sectors no doubt are going to be under attack and sabotaged. You'll need to decided if there are places or people you want to keep safe first before restoring communications."
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Rolled 35 (1d100)

>>1552350
Roll me a 1d100
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Rolled 46 (1d100)

>>1552371
Dad no
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Rolled 44 (1d100)

>>1552371
>1d100
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Rolled 74 (1d100)

>>1552371
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>>1552371
As you are talking with your brain, you sense a disturbance. No time to think, you spin around and draw out your gun.

That alien robot might have gone on to kill your brain and you, but it made a fatal slip. It tried to match the Courier with the Big Iron on his hip.
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>>1552383
Oh thank fucking chirst. I thought of it, Make sure it won't blow up and there isn't another inside. We're not sure how many slipped in.
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>>1552387
>Brain
"I strongly suggest you"

You're already there, with your Cosmic Knife, and proceed to slice and dice the robot to pieces.

>Brain
"Very good. Yes these things just come back up after you shoot them, you have to dismember them or disintegrate them. Some sort of advanced repair feature. Where did they get that?"
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>>1552395
>Our strike team that we sent in, We're still missing most of our Robotic Companions and we lost all 100 Bots we sent in. This is what happens when you fuck up.
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>>1552395
>you have to dismember them or disintegrate them. Some sort of advanced repair feature.
It's like fighting robotic Ghosts! Damn it, they're beating us to the Necron route!
>Where did they get that?"
Crypto rebuilt them from our destroyed Securitrons and somehow got a copy of their schematics, he must've taken it from them.
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>>1552398
>>1552401
>Brain
"Hmmm, a modified and advanced version of the Securitron's auto-repair features. Makes it so you have to destroy them completely to prevent reverse engineering. Damned clever. . .I thought of that. . .if only I had more robotics plants.

Oh right, yes, well you need to decide what your priority now is. Restore communications or protect any assets you deem vital first."
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>>1552407
Can we use the dish to locate where his controlling everything and also bounce the sensors off the stealth units so we can find and kill'em?
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>>1552407
>>1552407
>Makes it so you have to destroy them completely to prevent reverse engineering.
We could always hack or EMP them if we wanted copies, 'course we'd have to wait until there's only a few of them left.
>>1552412
Now that sounds like a plan.
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>>1552412
>>1552414
"Hmm, upgrade the Transmitter array into an ad-hoc stealth detection radar?

I don't think you have the time or the parts. Unless, you happened to have a boon of them stashed away somewhere do you?"
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>>1552418
>Unless, you happened to have a boon of them stashed away somewhere do you?"
Did our Brain break the 4th wall?
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>>1552418
You Sassy cunt, We do happen to have a boon stashed away with the parts needed to LOCATE cyptro with our allies and also pick up all those other invisible assholes.
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>>1552418
>>1552423
It's a good thing the Courier's such a compulsive hoarder and thief for occasions like this.
What are the projected causalities so far?
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Would you like to use a boon?

>Y/N
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>>1552434
y
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>>1552427
>What are the projected causalities so far?
>>1552434
How many injured or dead can we expect if we don't use the boon to detect them earlier?
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>>1552444
>>1552427
>Brain
"I can't be certain. Perhaps if you were to secure locations that could pose that sort of risk first, like the Higgs Village or Little Yangtze. Hopefully the tunnel entrance is holding, and they haven't yet broken to the outside. If we're lucky BoxCars should be alerted, and garrisoning the tunnel."
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>>1552434
Wait we have a boon?
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>>1552434
yes
>>1552448
Yeah, alright. Let's get that ad-hoc stealth detection radar set up before Crypto dicks around in our base any longer.
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>>1552450
We didn't spend it earlier, yes.
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had to brb, writing
>>1552443
>>1552451
2 votes for a boon, just need one more to lock
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>>1552601
boon my negro
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>>1552606
[LOCKED]
>Writing
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>Brain
"Good you do have one! Go out and get that Transmitter upgraded. I'll be safe here, I'll just lock the door again."

>Dr Mobius
"Nothing will get past my Giant Robo Scorpion! Except you of course. Oh, and your alias."

>You
[Allies?]

>Dr Mobius
"NO! Go out there and make the Crater safe!"

You make sure nothing else entered while you weren't looking, and begin laying more telephone wiring to the transmitter array, while picking up your stash of parts.

As your brain suspected, the place is utterly crawling with stealthed sniper bots. This is going to be very very painful to deal with, and lengthy, but as you plan you see several of them explode, a sword jutting through them. Meanwhile voices shout from above a ridge and you see some companions descend.

It's them! Some of the one's you were hoping to rescue. Mary-Jo blasting away bots with her double-blunder buss, Rusty shredding them to pieces, Desmond Harper firing away with his hunting rifle, milton and hans working as a duo. Strangely among them you see a young boy with a striped shirt and a metal band around his head, a knife to his side. He points with his knife in the direction of stealthed robots, guiding their fire on stealthed bots.

>Regain Companions: Mary-Jo, Milton+Hans, Rusty, Desmond Harper
>Gain new Companion!: The Determined Forecaster

You join your companions in clearing out the X-2 Transmitter Array, and with their help immediately make the upgrades.
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Gonna make a new thread
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>>1552873
NEW THREAD




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