>>1511713
Promises to Uphold/To-Do List/Suggestions by Companions --INCOMPLETE LIST--

Think Tank Gifts
Klein - (Something New) [X] - Holorifle
8 - (A new sound he hasn't heard) [ ] - {set up a stage for a symphony using actions}
0 - (An alien drone) [X] - {Captured intact from the last threads 100}
Borous - (A new animal Specimen) [X] - {Stealth Tunneler Eggs}
Dala - (regular supply of human subjects) [X] - Legion Prisoner

Unity's FEV Research
A proper FEV Lab [ ]
Prime/Untainted Human Subjects [ ]

>Brain
Reverse Engineer Biological research station [ ]
Reverse Engineer Sierra Madre Machine [ ] (needs more Sierra Madre Machines)
Investigate the Construction Zone for its Vehicles and Construction Bots [ ]

>Riddick
Get a Vehicle Garage [ ]

File: BigMT Map.jpg (459 KB, 1512x864)

459 KB JPG

>>1511749
[[CITY]] BIG MT
>>>>>Food: Above Average (Unstabe/Declining)
>>>>>Water: Good
>>>>>Medicine: Average (Unstabe/Declining)
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Wood (tiny) Scrap Metal (Low) Electronics (Low) Hygiene Supplies (Abundant)
>>>>>Fuel: Airplane Fuel (Below Average)
>>>>>Total Pop: 339 Humans (and companions) +40 Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Total Armaments (proportionate to the total pop) Below Average
>>>>>>Weapons: Type (Subtype, Amount, Condition)
-Conventional Melee Weapons (Legion; Moderate, Pristine)
-Conventional Firearms (Legion; Moderate, Pristine) (Mercenary, Above Moderate, Intact)
-Energy Firearms (Human Plasma, Moderate, Intact) (Human Laser, Moderate, Intact)
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional (Below Average) Energy (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor/Uniorms:
(Salvaged Legion, Moderate, Pristine)
(Legion Centurion. Tiny, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Armor, Moderate, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Uniforms, Moderate, Intact)


---THE CRATER---
>>>>>Morale: Good
>>>>>Current Pop:
107 Human
>>>>>Garrison:
6 Devils Brigade - Power Armor
19 Couriers Companions - Arcade, Doc Delilah, Willow, Ares, Cass, Raul, Veronica, ED-E, Rusty, Wendy Gilbert, Hazel, Desmond Harper, Vanessa, Joana, AXE MAN, Milton+Hans, Sonia, Riddick
200 Securitrons MK2
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
576 Robo Scorpions
>>>>>Prisoner: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Higgs Village Warehouse [6 Intact Homes w/{Toilets, Air Condition}, Indoor living area. Raul’s Shack. Follower Hospital.). 5 Box Cars. Latrines. Plumbing Water. Heated Water. Indoor Ventilation. The DOME. The SINK (BigMT Command Center. The THINK TANK). The FORBIDDEN ZONE. Barracks/Training Ground. (Average). Lobotomite Pleasure House (Primitive).
>>>>>Defenses: Radar Fence/Mountain Range. Laser Turrets (Few).
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Riddick’s Charge Co. Dodger
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (HUGE). BigMT Underground Reactors
>>>>>>Other
+The THINK TANK
+Dr. MOBIUS
+Unity
+Julia Farkas
+Arcade Ganon
+30 Allied Followers
+55 Captured Female Lobotomites
+67 Captured Male Lobotomites.


---THE BOXCARS---
>>>>>Morale: Above Average
>>>>>Armaments: Below Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
232 Human
+40 Super Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Garrison:
1 Couriers Companions – Doc Mitchel
35 Child Soldiers “Freeside Rats”
60 Trained Regular Infantry [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}
22 Trained Militia [Mixed Salvaged Legion] (Firearms) {Veterans}
+20 Super Mutants
+20 NightKin
400 Securitrons MK2
>>>>>Prisoner: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: 20 Rail Car Homes. Latrines. Spring Well. Hazmant Truck Container. Radioactive Liquid Tank. Irradiated Water Tank (95% Intact) Clean Water Tank (Intact)

>>>>>Defenses: None
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird, 1 Fuel Economic Semi Truck,
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (Adequate) {Shared from The Crater}. Electrical Poles.

>>>>>>Other:
+Marcus
+Keene
+20 Herd Animals (Brahmin/Bighorn)

>>1511764
Note: I've edited the stats to reflect BIGMT area as a whole City, divided into various subsectors (The Crater and The BoxCars shantytown).

[[CITY]] represents the total shared resources, food/water/fuel, and armaments.
--SUBSECTOR-- represents subregions with infrastructure, garrisons, moral, etc.

---

>New Vegas Radio
"Hello ladies and gentlemen. Mr. New Vegas here. You're all so great, we're gonna keep you listening all day.

We've got some news for you, coming right up.

The NCR has sworn in a new president, President Arnold Yaunker. His landslide victory in the election is attributed to his only major opposition, former president Aaron Kimball, following his recent impeachment over the loss of the Mojave to the Legion.

One of the first acts of President Yaunker was to recall one General Blackthorne from the a northern NCR region known as the Frontier, this likely in preparation for a defense against a Legion incursion into the NCR heartland.

In other news,

Fighting continues to rage around the Fort Nellis Airbase area as the Legion continues its siege on the Boomers, as local inhabitants report the sound of continued artillery bombardments. Legatus Lanius is reportedly leading the attack, and the legion expects breakthrough is imminent.

Boy, the Mojave Wasteland is just a fascinating place, isn't it? You never know what'll happen next."

---

>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 37

>>1511854
>Fighting continues to rage around the Fort Nellis Airbase area as the Legion continues its siege on the Boomers, as local inhabitants report the sound of continued artillery bombardments. Legatus Lanius is reportedly leading the attack, and the legion expects breakthrough is imminent.
Should we save them? We still have that transponder.

Rolled 27 (1d100)

>>1511854
>REPAIR - THE FARMS FOR SUPER FARMS
>HERO - GO GET USE A HOLORIFLE
>MIL - KEEP TRAINING FAGGOTS
>CIV - GET TO FARMING

>>1511870
>Brain
"This is one of those instances where I don't think you could face off a whole army alone. Not withstand how you swelled the Legion's ranks with all those factions you recruited against the NCR."

>>1511854
>Hero action.
Let's get that orchestra, we should also get an extra Vending machine to research.
>Civ action.
Have the x-22 botanical garden and the Followers research crops that can survive and grow from the Surrounding land, make sure they don't repeat vault 22, they should also research non-crop flora like trees so we can get lumber.(I'm assuming we give them the Vault 22 data automatically for this project.)
Don't know about the others.

>>1511870
Come up with mininukes and anything we can grab from Big Mt.?

>Repair
Let's get any facilities our current settlement might have up and running
>Hero
Go check up on Nellis Air Forc Base. See if we can't drive back the Legion assault.
>Military
Continue training and begin development of new combat uniforms.
>Civ
Begin construction of Riddick's garage and man-cave.

>>1511883
Actually can the Civ action be combined with "Reverse Engineer Biological research station"?

>>1511854
>Civ
Setup farms in the BOXCARS region.

>Hero
Support the CIV action or the MILITARY action depending on their skill sets.

>Repair / Jury rig
Attempt to improvise a water system (pump and pipes) in the BOXCARS region

>Military
Start clearing out of ALL of Big mt: capturing the lobotomites and eliminating everything else.

>>1511903
>>1511898
>>1511883
Guys, where the fuck are you're rolls?

>>1511921
This, I need rolls for background reasons.

Rolled 43 (1d100)

>>1511898
fuck

Rolled 80 (1d100)

>>1511921
Here you go

>>1511931
Qm, Save me. They forgot to how /qst/.

>>1511937
OY >>1511935

Rolled 83 (1d100)

>>1511854
>>1511898
Support. Mostly because I want to see if we can try getting the Boomers somewhere safer. Roll.
>>1511888
So more mines and heavy weapons? Could work.

>>1511942
But what about SUPERFARM?

>>1511940
Anon link it to YOUR post. Not to me. Thank you though.

>>1511942
Well we could atleast load up on as many mines and heavy weapons as possible and let them have one last hurrah. It would be nice to fight the legion though

>>1511947
QM only takes the first 3 rolls, and the most supported order list.
It's this one btw >>1511883

>>1511942
Boomers can't telaport back with us, Its a 1 person use sadly.

>>1511942
>>1511898
>Brain
"I really don't forsee you being able to make a difference here alone. You don't even have the securitrons with you, at best you might delay the Legion but at what cost?

Do you even have an exit strategy? They've likely turned the entire area in between into a mined and blasted no-man's land, worse than even before.

How would you plan to get them out? You might even be captured in the process."

>>1511958
>How would you plan to get them out? You might even be captured in the process."
Do what we always do?

>>1511958
We don't want to go. We have to do shit here, Boomers are sadly gonna burn. Play a Trumpet or something across the radio when they fall.

Wait can't we go tell the Boomers to all get in the bomber then fly the Bomber into our lands?

>>1511958
We could give them better armaments and see if we can't scout out the Legion positions before we leave.

>>1511965
You realize thats not how a bomber works right?

>>1511965
>Brain
"That is somewhat feasible, they'd have to abandon their base entirely, but they themselves might be spared."

>>1511958
"Well, if I use the transteleporter (or whatever the fuck it is called) I can leave the battle at any time.

Plus I plan on doing something I haven't done in awhile: long ranged combat with an actual scoped weapon. I'll just pick off a few every day and raid convoys for supplies. Maybe even direct more people to here if I think I can..."


>>1511965
We are currently out of communications range. However you have gave me an idea, what if we get them to evactuate via that tunnel that leads into their base with all their shit before blowing it up behind them? Then we just need to sneak out of the wastes with them in tow, possibly having a few Securotrons come and meet up with us for transport and to pull the artillery guns.

>>1511971
>>1511970
"Much of the area surrounding BigMT is empty salt flats, which would make a possible ad hoc landing surface.

Let's just hope you don't get caught in a storm along the way."

>>1511977
>"Well, if I use the transteleporter (or whatever the fuck it is called) I can leave the battle at any time.
"This is true"

There's also the problem of the Boomers having indiscriminately bombed everyone in the battle for Hoover dam, we will need a good reason to bring them here so our people don't get angry.

>>1511990
Do they know that the Boomer's were behind the bombings?

>>1511996
>Brain
"Almost certainly yes. I wonder if when people see the bomber land they don't just decide to try and shoot it out of the sky."

>>1511996
if they show up flying that bomber, Yes. I'm pretty sure they'll know.

>>1511996
Arcade does, and probably the followers too, word will get around.

Okay...so how do we argue that the Boomer's deserve a place with us without killing our reputation?

Also how's Riddick's garage going?
Is he scaring people with his glowy eyes?

>>1512014
We don't. Anon's fucked up and we sadly need to cut our losses. We could however steal those juicy flight sims.

>>1511990
>>1512014
The Boomers are like retarded children?

>>1512016
You'd need to build one.

Also that's why he wears the goggles.

>>1512014
They don't deserve to die to the Legion? Their maps were incredibly inaccurate and thus all they knew was that the NCR owned X places and the Legion Y.

>>1512020
Actually yeah...they kinda are.
They're like cave-children with weapons training.
They don't know shit about the world around them and it seems everything they do revolves around blowing shit up.

Remember to vote for an action.
Like mine >>1511883

>>1512021
Well what action won the vote?

Actually it occurs to me that our people don't know what the Boomers look like or even anything about them.


Assuming we can slip away for a few days, we can imply we are going to meet up with some allies to secure the good shit this group has and then imply that the Boomers are our allies and not the mass murderers with the big guns...

>>1512021
The boomers were mostly bombing ncr, why did ceasar want to attack them?

>>1512037
I'm going to assume the Legion went up to the Boomers base, tried their usual ultimatum shit, got bombed, and now want revenge/new toys.

>>1512020
>The Boomers are like retarded children?
>>1512028
>They're like cave-children with weapons training.
>They don't know shit about the world around them and it seems everything they do revolves around blowing shit up.
>Shit... these Boomers, it feels like they have retard strength!

>>1511982
>>1512036
We have the transponder, we can easily give them a meeting before teleporting away.

>>1512034
None definitively yet, I go by first to three votes.

>>1512037
The boomers bombed everyone.

Mostly they shelled the NCR because they had static positions easily marked on maps.

They bombed the Legion because they had massed infantry armies on the move

>>1512034
None yet, Nobody dropped from the running or changed to a different vote. Vote me for super farms.

>>1512050
I like the superfarms but not everything else about your list.

>>1512050
I would have voted for your thing if you added getting Riddick a garage.

>>1512066
If we had more actions, sure but we don't

>>1512066
I can add that to mine for Repair, was planning on setting that up in the Construction Zone anyway. >>1511883

>>1511898
>>1511942
Technically this has two votes.
>>1512050
Maybe if one of the votes had the Boomer visit along with the superfarms by swapping one of the actions out to fulfill the other promises, it'd work.

>>1512083
Can change my Hero action too but i want a good reason to bring the Boomers first.

>>1511903

Take my roll for this.

As for the Boomers, we should try and save them from the Legion. They had bad maps, we rolled a 1, mistakes were made.

We need their firepower, and having the bomber wouldn't hurt us either

>>1511764
>>>>>>Food: Above Average (Unstabe/Declining)
>>>>>>Water: Good
>>>>>>Medicine: Average (Unstabe/Declining)
On another note, our concerns are food and medicine. Everything is stable, if a bit low.

Its easiest on me if when you guys come to an agreement, you make a new proposal with the four (or how ever many) actions and then revote/link support to it.

Rolled 68 (1d100)

>>1512092

Well I forgot to roll. No bully

>>1512094
This looks like a job for SUPERFARMS!
And his trusty sidekick, THE X-17 METEOROLOGICAL STATION!

>>1512092
>Take my roll for this.
What roll?

>>1512090
>>1512092
Besides the Boomers being sheltered retards, they did do what we ask. They have the most knowledge regarding the air force and some of the conventional tech, and are one of the most loyal factions to us.

>>1512096
I'm adding to my list so i can get more votes.
>Hero action.
Let's get that orchestra, we should also get an extra Vending machine to research.
>Civ action.
Have the x-22 botanical garden and the Followers research crops that can survive and grow from the Surrounding land, make sure they don't repeat vault 22, they should also research non-crop flora like trees so we can get lumber.(I'm assuming we give them the Vault 22 data automatically for this project.)
>Repair action.
Construct Riddicks Vehicle Garage.
>>1512101
I meant a good reason to tell our Settlers.

>>1512101

Yeah, forgot to roll on that post. It's here >>1512098

Though I don't think all of our military combined won't be able to deal with a certain someone. You probably know who I'm talking about, if not then guess

>>1512108
>You probably know who I'm talking about, if not then guess
...The Legion?
I'm at a loss.

>>1512092
>>1512101
On another note, they're the only allied faction during the Battle of Hoover Dam that was willing to switch targets for us, everyone else fucked off.
>>1512107
Do any of those count?

>>1512108
>Though I don't think all of our military combined won't be able to deal with a certain someone.
The Legate?

What if we have the bomber do a night landing or do low level flying so that its not too obvious.

>>1512121
Might work. Could we make some decoys so they thing the Boomers are still there?

>>1512108
>Though I don't think all of our military combined won't be able to deal with a certain someone. You probably know who I'm talking about, if not then guess
Boone? Ulysses?

>>1512117
No, them just being retarded isn't enough of a reason, i bet you money one of our Settlers will say.
>Then you should have let natural selection do it's work!
>>1512121
To fool the Legion or our Settlers? Cause if it's the latter i don't recommend it.

>>1512115
>>1512117

Boone, and if on the off chance that Joshua turns against us and teams up with Boone and decide we need to have our collective assholes stretched out. Well.

It's been a fun quest

>>1512126

There you go, not worried about Ulysses though

>>1512117
Well to be fair they had already smashed up the NCR really good and were already fighting the Legion. It was less switching targets, more that their first targets were successfully obliterated.

>>1512135
We have fucking Riddick.
Nobody can take us now.

>>1512128
I meant the other reason besides the retardation, but that would be funny to have them retort with.

>>1512135
>Boone, and if on the off chance that Joshua turns against us and teams up with Boone and decide we need to have our collective assholes stretched out.
But we have Riddick, and a bunch of other companions?

>>1512138
RIP.

>>1512143
What's the other reason? I must have missed it.

>>1512138

Should fly the bomber out and rig the rest of the base to go boom and take out a large chunk of the legion.

>>1512149
>>1512117
>>1512101
They're the most loyal faction to us that's not already a part of our settlements, have the most knowledge regarding the air force and some conventional tech for. They did what we ask (if interpreted in the way a Raider would), and were the only faction during the Battle of Hoover Dam that were willing to stick with us. Everyone else fucked off or already joined us. In addition, they’re formerly Vault Dwellers so they might still have knowledge of that Vault Tec around.

>>1512157
>>1512092
Also they had bad intel, so they weren't aware they were bombing civilians, despite never bothering to check with us on that.

>>1512161
Civilians? What's a civilian?

There are no civilians out there, just savages.

>>1512165
you're not wrong.

>>1512157
You know what, that's good enough for me.
Changing my list again.

>Hero action.
Let's get that orchestra, we will also go help the boomers.
>Civ action.
Have the x-22 botanical garden and the Followers research crops that can survive and grow from the Surrounding land, make sure they don't repeat vault 22, they should also research non-crop flora like trees so we can get lumber.(I'm assuming we give them the Vault 22 data automatically for this project.)
>Repair action.
Construct Riddicks Vehicle Garage.
>Military action.
Keep training and begin development of new combat uniforms.

>>1512165
>Have a long, LONG talk about the world outside Nellis Air Force Base and why calling everybody out there savages is factually incorrect and just plain demeaning.

>>1512165
>>1512167
>>1512176
If we ever rescue the Boomers, we should seriously lecture them on civilians and how not everyone is someone you bomb on sight.

>>1512141

You do realize that I'm referring to one man who could shoot the sun and make it bleed. And another who got covered in pitch, was lit on fire, thrown down into the grand canyon, survived that and walked out with possibly legionaries hounding him. And was the original Legate and made Lanius seem tame in comparison?

Yeah I'd rather march into the Divide naked and start smashing Deathclaw eggs in front of the damned lizards then deal with a sniper who's the last thing you never see and a goddamn mormon mummy with the survivability of a fucking Terminator.

>>1512178
>lecuture them about something that does not exist.

uh..okay

>>1512178
>>1512176
>So we don't bomb everyone
>After you told us to bomb everyone

>>1512179
Boone would need to hit us several times to kill us even with headshots, and he can't hide from us.
As for the burned man...I guess that's just a good old fashion speech check and he's in our pocket.

>>1512192
>tfw you bomb everyone TOO good.

Can someone be a dear and tally up the dominant vote?

>>1511854
>>1511942
>>1512173
>>1512096
Switching my vote to this.

>>1512186
>>1512192
Ah, so this is what incomprehensible rage feels like.

>>1512192
Look. That's our bad, and we admit you did do as we asked.
Can't really blame you for doing what you thought we told you to.
But you have to understand that society is a thing outside of Nellis for christ's sake.

>>1512208
>Says thing
>the NEETS do said thing
>Look, QM. The neets didn't understand but you did. So you should've changed it.

is..this what you're saying senpai?

>>1512207
Somewhat. Trust me, it'll get worse.

>>1512208

This sound hypocritical. We didnt clarify the targets properly.

>>1512218
I'm not even saying they did bad, the point I'm trying to get across is that there's a world outside of Nellis and calling everybody outside the base savages doesn't really help them.

>>1512206
>Can someone be a dear and tally up the dominant vote?
>dominant vote?
Sure thing, daddy.

>>1512173
>>1512207

>>1512092
>>1511903

>>1511898

>>1511876

>>1512218
To be frank that is my fault, I just expected them to have some semi-modern maps and to NOT fucking bomb a fucking refugee camp.

>>1512233
Ugh, fine, I guess I'll have to count which one has the most.

>>1512233
VOTE SUPERFARM FOR PRESIDENT!

>>1511876
1 for this
>>1511883
1 for this
>>1511898
>>1511942
2 for this
>>1511903
>>1512092
2 for this

Anyone care to tiebreak?

>>1512233
>>1512258
It's currently a two-way tie.
Do you have previewed quotes enabled?

>>1512259
>>1512173
Isn't this anon already trying to do that?

>>1512265
See >>1512207
He change his support to mine.
We're currently tied 2-2 for
>>1512173
>>1511903

Voting for this

>>1512173

>>1512233
>>1512265
The votes were already tallied, just without the number listed. You miscounted them.
>>1512272

>>1512273
And now we have 3-2.

>>1512173
[LOCKED]

Writing.

Last thread there was a lot of talk on uniform/general aesthetic. Was consensus ever reached, or will I have to drop options to vote on.

>>1512282
Read the last part of it. Clone-esk for combat armor for now, Starship for cops and nation

File: concept 2.png (395 KB, 652x1321)

395 KB PNG

>>1512282
>Was consensus ever reached
NOPE!
Here's the concept I made last thread

>>1512282
No but my vote is for a mix between Combine
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/aXDR
Jin Roh
http://teuvoh.deviantart.com/art/Jin-Roh-57129327
https://www.allmystery.de/i/ta39df3_DSCF4214.jpg
and Starship troopers+Leg armor to protect the Femoral arteries.

I also found this you might find usefull http://harubizann.blog56.fc2.com/blog-entry-1517.html

>>1512282
>Last thread there was a lot of talk on uniform/general aesthetic. Was consensus ever reached, or will I have to drop options to vote on.
I think we ended up with something like Clone Troopers for our armed forces, Starship Troopers for the cops and general public, and Combine for the SWAT? Then there were Spartan armors and those Dune stills that may or may not be integrated into spec ops armor?

>>1512288
>>1512291
these things >>1512282 had the most.

File: f7c18818c9e538ad68072cc76(...).jpg (223 KB, 1508x1070)

223 KB JPG

>>1512286
>>1512291
>Clone-esk for combat armor for now, Starship for cops and nation
So efforts toward full body armor for general infantry and snazzy uniforms for non-combat rolls
Combine Armor/Sleek stealthy armor for tactical teams

>>1512282
Hey, how much saturnite and titanium do we got laying around Big MT?

>>1512308
Combine was only sided with 1 anon., but our mil needs to be fully enclosed. Everything else had moire then 1

>>1512308
Yea i'm happy enough with this.

>>1512308
More or less, yeah.
Damn the metrocops look so cool with armor like that.
>>1512316
Technically 2+ if we're integrating aspects of it. The tactical and spec op teams have something of a grab bag.

>>1512324
Police force units, for now, aren't so great a need thanks to your securitrons. Primarily needed are more subtle investigators, detectives and things, for crimes and subterfuge such as thievery in the shanty towns.

>>1512308

Neat. Speaking of military, I got a few policies lined down for when dealing with other factions. Anyone want to hear them?

>>1512346
when we need them.

>>1512288
So let's see...
the spec for this one (as I gathered from player input) are
>Full body enclosure (undersuit and helmet)
>Alloy exterior plates (Saturnite?)
>Gas mask and combination flashlight video and camera integrated into helmet
>Entrenchment tool attachment point on hip
>Combat knife attachment point on thigh
>Fluid cooling system (might be integrated in undersuit)
>Powerpack (microfusion? MF Breeder?) installed in back of torso

>>1512346
We're not in a position for policy positions. We deal with situations as they come about.

>>1512329
>Primarily needed are more subtle investigators, detectives and things, for crimes and subterfuge such as thievery in the shanty towns.
So we're currently in a noir setting?

>>1512329
>subtle investigators, detectives and things, for crimes and subterfuge such as thievery
Get Riddick on it. He's sneaky.

>>1512369
Sounds good so far, yeah. Is there a way to feed the HUD into central command? Like how our Brain interfaces with the Securitrons?

>>1512391
I assume the helmet would come with a transponder and the video/audio feed from the headset camera would transmit to whoever is running the current operation.

>>1512329
What about something like this?
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/BgrA
The robot provides the firepower and security and the police provides the social and human element.
Together they investigate crime! Enforce the law! And protect the people!

>>1512402
That'd be perfect.
>>1512402
>with a transponder
Time to pull a Necron?

>>1512413
>Time to pull a Necron?
You lost me with that one. Explain.

>>1512413
OH YES! However far off that is. Self-repairing teleporting killbots. Sign me up!

>>1512413
>>with a transponder
>Time to pull a Necron?
>>1512416
The Necrons are essentially robots that have teleporters strapped to each of their units that warps them back to their HQ to get repaired every time they near death. They're damn near impossible to kill because of that, how durable they are to start with, and really good repairing tech.
Only way to practically kill them is to destroy their HQ that keeps repairing them whenever they warp back to it.
>>1512422
Also this.

>>1512422
And giant levitating fortresses for repair/signal boost/heavy support. I can see it now....

>>1512416
Necrons can teleport in and out of combat. Primarily this ability is used to tele-gib their enemies and deploy into secured locations.


There is nothing more terrifying than your squad exploding in meaty chunks as ebony black skeletons start killing everyone without a single word or unneeded motion and knowing your only weapon is ineffective against them.

>>1512428
You'd think the obvious solution would just be too kill them so fast they can't be repaired. Like just constantly jihading them with nuclear warheads or some shit.

>>1512363
>>1512370

And here I had it listed out. Shame.

>>1512369

Very good, could it be possible to have a power fist integrated into the armor?

>>1512431

I can think of things that are just as terrifying

>>1512433
Nukes are to the Necrons what gunpowder is to a hydrogen bomb.


They finished the tech tree so to speak, they can't get any more advanced.

>>1512428
>>1512431
>>1512433
You don't understand just how durable they are to start with, their armor self-repairs itself, and they have automated teleportation functions to juke them back to base. It's possible to kill them, with something like you mentioned, but at that point you've dealt more collateral damage than you'd want.
Their HQ is their weakest link, mostly because of how annoying it is to keep having them respawn back.
>>1512440
Pretty much this.

>>1512436
If we give them powerfists, that's a hand that can't hold a rifle.
That said, I was thinking the armor would be issued with the standard loadout and soldiers could choose between no powerfist and a rifle or a powerfist and a pistol.

>>1512446

Hm, fair point. Could there be a way to add a more psychological warfare edge to the armor?

>>1512463
>Hm, fair point. Could there be a way to add a more psychological warfare edge to the armor?
More pauldrons?

>>1512446
We can make the power-fist function outside of a punching motion, we have the capability to produce the technology.

File: f30a72b6f7542bf50750d4be1(...).jpg (57 KB, 700x820)

57 KB JPG

>>1512463
You could put skulls on it. Or you could change the visor to look like a monster face.
Emile had the right idea.

>>1512470
Make the gas masks look like they have horse teeth?

>>1512463
Well, we could always get some H.G Geiger looking armour and terrify the shit out of our enemies. Like some sort of demonic wetdream.

>>1512467
Well if we can just enhance the physical strength of the armor's movements, why limit it to just the arms?
I understand there's a limit to how fast and strong the motions of the suit can be without killing the occupant, but I think we can strike a balance between power and viability.

>>1512476
Unity could probably do that for us.
Sweet ol thing.

>>1512475
>>1512470
Gas masks should be IN the helmet, Not an add on. Full enclosed helmet is better then gas masks.

>>1512494
The gas mask is incorporated into the helmet itself.
Integrated oxygen scrubbers is a better term for it honestly.

>>1512470
I like this idea, screw gas masks.

>>1512513
It would still have integrated oxygen scrubbers you know. They're kind of important in the wasteland.

>>1512523
Alternatively, oxygen tanks so it's like they're astronauts.

>>1512525
When we get to space, sure.
But not when there's a million things that can go wrong with such an unnecessary piece of equipment.

File: image.jpg (30 KB, 250x236)

30 KB JPG

>>1512470

I was thinking happy marines

>>1512532
Pshh... It's not like they'll try shooting the oxygen tank the first chance they'll get, or try igniting it.

Also, we need to figure out how to miniaturise the hologram projectors and their power supply.


They can't be killed unless their projector is destroyed or deactivated but you could in theory use them for weapons and for armour, as in shields.

>>1512543
>Implying we wouldn't get dumbass soldiers trying to huff the oxygen like it's paint or some shit
Don't worry about how the enemy can break your shit. Your troops do it much better.

>>1512543
>>1512546
So we use hologram projectors as shields to unlock Mjolnir armor early?

>>1512554
Better than Mjolnir. They literally can't be hurt as far as I am aware without breaking or deactivating the generators.

I just realized. There's no way to get a proper cheek weld with my armor design. It'd have to have a Halo style HUD to be compatible with most weapon systems.
Maybe our laser rifles could have a divot in the stock or some shit...

>>1512559
Sweet. Time to ascend.

>>1512552
>>Implying we wouldn't get dumbass soldiers trying to huff the oxygen like it's paint or some shit
Ah. Like Jet?

>>1512562
Either that or we try redesigning the armor for it.

>>1512543
>flashbacks to rouge trooper, shooting at enemy gas tanks to watch them blow up.

>>1512576
I dunno. Maybe changing the shape of the helmet would work.
Like slimming down the oxygen scrubbers to where it sorta mimics the shape of a face.

>>1512585
That works. Either redesign the helmet, add some pivots on the weapons, or add some sort of attachment to our armor for fastening weapons.

>>1512590
We could just a make a slip on attachment for our weapons. Like a cover on the stock.

>>1512590
>>1512585
put the oxgen scrubbers along the sides of the neck, going down the back. Will stop bullets going right into the neck but will make the helmet abit widerish.

>>1512684
How about putting the scrubbers on the back of the helmet?

>>1512697
That works but makes it higher. If it runs along the spine and stuff. It'd work. Honestly I'd suggest Space marine armor or clone or hell even Spartan armor designs then. Its 'there' but under everything else.

>>1512157
>They're the most loyal faction to us that's not already a part of our settlements, have the most knowledge regarding the air force and some conventional tech for.
Completely agree.

Also, letting the air base and its various military assets (such as artillery) fall into Legion hands will just make our reconquest that much harder.

Killing the Legate would be a significant setback, we should teleport back and do that next turn.

>>1512791
That will endanger the evacuation effort. Why not just rig the base to blow up and set all defences to automated. Once the enemy moves in on the command centre, the entire place explodes.

>>1512821
We can't ferry all the equipment out but we can manufacture more in the future. Get the people out with what is neccessary for the exodus to BigMT and rig the rest to blow. It should hinder the legion enough to stop them following us while leaving them strong enough to trade blows with the NCR and more importantly the by now probably sentient deathclaws.

There is an issue with construction, either of the stage for the orchestra or the vehicle garage, namely a lack of materials and a question on design. Before we can build, either must be solved.
We could build new structures out of whatever scrap we collect and bolt and weld together, as is the modern style. Use some of the boxcars for wall parts. This would be fastest, if ramshackle.
We could try and set up some sort of forge. The Chinese have a design for a small one, which can be used to smelt down scrap metal into parts for a much larger one, which can be built inside an existing BigMT structure (or, in the best case scenario, an entirely new concrete structure). Once this is done, we’ll have a working steel forge to smelt scrap into actual steel plates, fresh bolts, and proper steel structures.
The longest term, but most rewarding, is to set up concrete mixing operations. We’d need to go out of BigMT and search for a limestone quarry (the Mojave is too far), and ferry them by semi truck or securitron to BigMT. Concrete, as it is known in the NCR and by Old World Records, is made primarily from water, sand and gravel, and processed limestone. The Old World has an even superior form of Concrete which involves the use of specialized chemicals and small traces of iron and aluminum which is then poured around steel reinforcement.
Thus far only the NCR has that type of capability, most non NCR settlements who even can make concrete just rely on the small amounts of the lower quality.
Essentially, it boils down to a choice of time vs long term investment.
CHOOSE:
>[We can do quality buildings later; Settle for Scrap Buildings Now, the most immediate and fastest way]
>[Set up a small Chinese forge and at least have Reinforced Scrap Steel buildings, with proper nails, bolts, and tihngs]
>[Set up a small Chinese forge, then smelt parts for a Small Chinese Steel Mill, to build Recycled Steel Plate structures]
>[Set up a small concrete mixing yard. Go and scout out for Limestone, Clay, and Fine Sand which should be out there somewhere. Then build a Small Concrete Plant. Make plain, but sturdy, concrete buildings]
>[American Engineering is the best! Show the world the meaning of Quality. Find the materials. Build the small concrete yard and the small forge, then build both a Small Concrete Plant, a Small Chinese Steel Mill, and a Small Chemical Mill. Build true old world steel reinforced concrete structures to last hundreds of years!]

>>1512996

We can do this in stages right?

Get acceptable standards of housing for our colonist and then work on upgrading it later?

File: Megaton_interior (1).jpg (486 KB, 1280x960)

486 KB JPG

>>1512998
Of course.

Right Now BoxCars is mainly using just the BoxCars and whatever fabric can be sown together for shade from the sun. Even a scrap upgrade would be an improvement.

Just know that it would take more time too (some of these things will take multiple actions)

>>1512996
Can we put together a temporary stage/garage while we build up the concrete industry and make actual buildings safe from radiation storms and bullets alike?

>>1513005
Yes.

>>1512996
>>1513001

>>[Set up a small Chinese forge and at least have Reinforced Scrap Steel buildings, with proper nails, bolts, and tihngs]

This housing will be adequate for most purposes for now. This will alleviate stress on our colonist and we and work on improving it further down the road.

>>1512996
American engineering.
Go big or go home!

File: The_Quest_For_The_Ultimat(...).jpg (162 KB, 700x300)

162 KB JPG

The Followers agricultural Expertise, now comes to join in on your Brain’s scientific knowledge! Now several options for your farms exist.
Of course, you could go the old fashioned way, since you’ve got plenty of water. The good old and tested desert appropriate crops. Beets, onions, beans and carrots.
The Brain offers one alternative, Converting biomass into compact, easy to store, and spoil resistant Salient Green and then reconverting it into numerous things. Salient Green can be cooked into Maize for grain storage, or even conversion into Ethanol. It can be cooked into Xander Root, which can then be made into stimpaks. Or it can be cooked into Barrel Cactus Fruit which is both thirst quenching and has decent nutritional value. In the absence of meat, it can be turned into beans for protein.
Since Cacti are already desert hardy plants, they can be grown en mass quite easily without any modification.
If you are willing to bear the Risk, you could go to Vault 22 or even investigate the nearby mutated forest as a source of genetically modified plant material, to investigate what made them grow big, and attempt to safely modify plants with it (either the Cacti to be converted into Salient Green, or conventional plant types like Wheat, Corn, Etc.). They would likely guzzle up water like crazy, but grow big and fast.
There is one last option Unity makes available.
“I’m quite the hardy lifeform, my flesh tree’s and nutrient producing extensions can grow just as fast as any of those green mutated ones. I can make foodstuffs, healing serums, and a bit of flammable liquid too. It’s what we use for the propane stove’s in Baker. If you were willing to set up my FEV Lab and help me with FEV research, one of the first things is see if we can ensure eating the nutrients my ecosystem produces, won’t accidentally convert your own people.”
CHOOSE:
>[Old Fashioned Crop Farms. We got the water, now lets get too it]
>[Let’s try the simple Salient Green Cacti method. We’ll need to reverse engineer and build a bigger X-22 version, and a cactus farm, but once it’s done we’ll have a versatile food source that can be turned into medicine or fuel]
>[Let’s reverse engineer the mutated plant samples. We’ll need to build a proper dedicated Agricultural Research Building (meaning also finding parts for it). Then spend an indeterminate time investigating the genetic makeup. Then applying and growing the giant crops. From there we can decide if we want to go the Salient Green conversion method, or simply gigantified plants. Another upshot is super grass, to feed the cows, and also improve morale by having the ground be green.]
>[Build Unity’s FEV Lab and work on FEV purification of her various produced substances. It will provide meat for cooking, possibly even vegetable like substances, as well as healing serums and who knows what else. Unity even thinks if you find a Giant Spider, she might even be able to spin webs for cloth and fabric]

>>1513025
>>[Old Fashioned Crop Farms. We got the water, now lets get too it]

Get it up and running, stabilize our situation before we work on improving.

>>1513025
Oh and of course, the longest method of all
[Food Replicators - We'd need to go to the Sierra Madre to get more vending machines to reverse engineer, but the applications are limitless. There's a lot of others steps, but by far this will be the greatest food source you can imagine.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyMYKWIAR5s

File: 105b.jpg (119 KB, 1024x768)

119 KB JPG

When discussing PA construction previous thread, did anyone mention mid western BoS? They produce power armors, and I think they have best ones in fallout lore.
Their faction is probably the most powerful one. Ncr and legion are peanuts compared to them.

>>1513025
Reverse engineer mutant plants + Unity

>>1513025
Cacti and salient if our food lasts that long. Then straight to mutant plant research. And under no circumstances are we letting the FEV hivemind near our food. Bad no no. We don't know anything about her goals. Or rather his. Could very well be on his way to becoming the next Master. And in the most advanced science center in the wasteland to boot.

>>1513036
You did offer to help her people stop being so deformed.

>Brain
"The concern is a legitimate one, but then, if we were to work toward FEV purification that might actually also be a step toward any certain, ah, FEV countermeasures just for that sort of concern."

>>1513036
this settlements outside bigMT though. I believe we should spend the minimum effort to alleviate the immediate crisis first before we work on shoring up some defences for the outside settlement. We dont want them getting blindsided by something else here.

Basic self-sufficiency -> Proper Defence -> Improvements

>>1513025
Does the salient green option gave humans farming still?

? Farming is farming whether a human or a robot does it.

Your people do wish they could have some mechanical help though, almost universally.

File: d8a595a9527efa8c3e78592a7(...).jpg (41 KB, 400x916)

41 KB JPG

>Military action.
Keep training and begin development of new combat uniforms.
Militia Recruits are trained. They are a ways off from being regulars and will need additional training.
>Kreger
“What we lack is officers. I’d like an action for you and I to go scout out our people for some competent officer material, and then train them personally. Then we’d have an easier time training the rest. Some of your companions could be useful too if trained.”
--
Meanwhile, you work on the development of new Combat Uniforms.
Before we can even get to the specific uniform design, as with the others, the issues of material must be resolved.
CHOOSE:
[Brahmin Leather – The most readily available clothing material of the age, and has been a traditional staple of even old world military uniforms. It means we’ll need to up our Brahmin numbers and build a Leather Clothing Mill]
[Old World Fabric – 50% Cotton 50% Nylon. It means we’ll need to grow Cotton Crops and build a chemical mill to produce Nylon, as well as consume some amounts of coal, you’ll need to mine this or make Charcoal from wood. Plus, you’ll need an amount of fuel such as ethanol or at least Unity’s fuel which should be safe when burnt (we can test this to be safe). Its complicated, and before mass industrialization might only be able to make a few uniforms a day. But this is far superior to Brahmin Leather, somewhat more flame retardant, and will provide better perks to your soldiers]
[Replicator Pathway – We can make even theoretical types of clothing with larger replicators]
[Unity Webbing – Another alternative clothing source, if you’re willing to find a giant spider.]

The Brain suggests dealing with the issue of fatigues and regular fabrics, before moving onto actual armor. He will come up with plans if armor is required, but he does point out that machines are going to be the fighting force after all so its not a priority.

>>1513054
>Kreger
Who would you recommend as officers amongst our companions?

Also I vote a mix of old and new materials, keeping in line with America reborn.

>>1513054
Cotton and nylon

>>1513063
Actually we can start full cotton and add the polymer fabrics as we build up the infrastructure, cant we?

File: Calvert_brain.jpg (391 KB, 1120x800)

391 KB JPG

>>1513054
>Brain
"In such a case I would say that using Byproducts of Unity should be relatively safe. I do not believe the FEV can be easily transmitted over non-living materials, which means we could safely use her webbing as an alternative to Cotton, and perhaps even the products to manufacture Nylon."

---

!ALERT!
One of the Follower Scientists, a certain Gabriel Sanchez, has stated that, after talking to your brain and yourself, he would like to have his brain extracted too, and be given a Tesla Coil, as well as other bodily enhancements.

He states he would like to see the experience, and thinks that it would effectively provide two researchers for the price of one.

>Permit him, it would be hypocritical to say its wrong
>Deny him, that's something we should reserve for ourselves
>Other?

>>1513071
Yes

>>1513054
Old World style. We will need it eventually anyway.

Also, how long does the Brain think it would take to reverse engineer the Sierra Madre replicators? The sooner we get that the better off we'll be. No need for a farmaceutical industry if you can make it from twigs and some power in a fraction of the time.

>>1513075
Go ahead. We just have watch out that not everyone goes lobotomite.

>>1513079
"I can't say how long any research might take. It's mostly possible because the original facilities that produced them are right here, if given repairs. But unless you want to risk your only working vending machine, we'll need more of them from the Sierra Madre. I suspect the more you get, the easier time we'll have at reverse engineering them."

>>1513054
Replicator

>>1513075
Permit him. Why not?

>>1513054
>[Old World Fabric – 50% Cotton 50% Nylon. It means we’ll need to grow Cotton Crops and build a chemical mill to produce Nylon, as well as consume some amounts of coal, you’ll need to mine this or make Charcoal from wood. Plus, you’ll need an amount of fuel such as ethanol or at least Unity’s fuel which should be safe when burnt (we can test this to be safe). Its complicated, and before mass industrialization might only be able to make a few uniforms a day. But this is far superior to Brahmin Leather, somewhat more flame retardant, and will provide better perks to your soldiers]

>>1513075
BTW, what does brain think about that scientist's choice?

>>1513090
>Brain
"I approve. It will be nice to have another working brain to chat with.

Perhaps in time more people will even consider it."

>>1513083
Wasnt our brain removal a fluke due to scaarring on the brain? And most everybody is just made a lobotomite?

>>1513098
The Auto-Docs programming has been fixed. New lobotomites are now an intentional result by the Think Tank.

>>1513101
Okay, if were sure it works as intended

Turn update once major decisions are voted on

>>1513075
>>Other?
Tell him to wait. It's a delicate matter that would best be decided on once we have our priorities set up.

>>1512996
>[Set up a small Chinese forge and at least have Reinforced Scrap Steel buildings, with proper nails, bolts, and tihngs]
+
>[Go and scout out for Limestone, Clay, and Fine Sand which should be out there somewhere.]
Combines a short term solution with a long term viability study.

>>1512996
>>[American Engineering is the best! Show the world the meaning of Quality. Find the materials. Build the small concrete yard and the small forge, then build both a Small Concrete Plant, a Small Chinese Steel Mill, and a Small Chemical Mill. Build true old world steel reinforced concrete structures to last hundreds of years!]

>>1513025
Farming:
>Let’s try the simple Salient Green Cacti method. We’ll need to reverse engineer and build a bigger X-22 version, and a cactus farm, but once it’s done we’ll have a versatile food source that can be turned into medicine or fuel]

Military:
>Task our enclave soldiers with scouting out for officer potential with a focus and tactical/strategic acumen and political loyalty to our ideals.
>Old World Fabric – 50% Cotton 50% Nylon. It means we’ll need to grow Cotton Crops and build a chemical mill to produce Nylon, as well as consume some amounts of coal, you’ll need to mine this or make Charcoal from wood. Plus, you’ll need an amount of fuel such as ethanol or at least Unity’s fuel which should be safe when burnt (we can test this to be safe). Its complicated, and before mass industrialization might only be able to make a few uniforms a day. But this is far superior to Brahmin Leather, somewhat more flame retardant, and will provide better perks to your soldiers]

Researcher:
>Permit him, but state that it is a process which is resource intensive, and will therefore be carried out on a very rare basis.

>>1513127
>but state that it is a process which is resource intensive, and will therefore be carried out on a very rare basis.
It is?

>>1513149
Not really. BigMT has lots of spare room and brain life support. Your main limiter is space and nutrient supply but that wont be a problem even with 100 brains.

>>1513151
Hmm, thought it was more involved than that.

Maybe let's set up some kind of testing process to determine loyalty and intellectual ability?

I just don't want there to be a rush of people signing up. This should be a rare thing.

>>1513054
Don't tunnelers have ridiculously strong webbing?

File: Robobrain.png (878 KB, 723x815)

878 KB PNG

>>1513157
>Brainn
"In general us Brain's are quite the potent and intelligent things.

Like I said, you could have scored a 1 on the INT of a Vitomatic Vigor Tester, and I would still be quite smart. The benefits of being entirely composed of nervous tissue, that and liberal mentat use.

It is also why the Commonwealth used us as the motherboards for their Robobrains, I imagine."

>>1513158
Oh yes, the ones you captured. Not the natural ones from the Divide.

>>1513151
I forgot, what happens when one of the part dies? What happens to the brain when body dies and vice versa?

>>1513166
>Brain
"If the body dies, "you" die. The Courier, I mean, that part of us.

I'll still be around, I suppose, not sure if I'd get a robot body like the Think Tank. Remember those of the Think Tank aren't really their former selves but, rather, the brains of their former selves if that makes sense.

If I were killed? Well, then you're going to spend the rest of your life as a Lobotomite, unless you were at least sure to back us up on a digital format."

>>1513165
If we give a few to Unity, could she use them to produce some nice, strong webbing for use as military fabric?

>>1513175
>Unity
"Oh, I hadn't considered that. Why, yes, I believe I could."

>>1513182
I don't think we're using those web-producing Tunnelers for anything else. Maybe Borous would like one or two, but I think they'd be better off with Unity than anything.

Any objections to handing Unity the Web-Tunnelers? Those in favor?

>>1513172
>>1513172
Wait, does that mean someone could kill us by bypassing our super human body with best equipment available which would need a medium army to kill by just assassinating our brain which everyone knows about?

>>1513197
Not everyone, mostly your companions and scientists.

But yes.

Its behind some bullet proof glass, and in an emergency can descend into the floor for what its worth.

>>1513189
No not really

QM, could you provide us with some insight into the thoughts and concerns of our normal citizens?

I feel we discuss a lot with our Brain and companions, but this is skewed to an 'upper class' view of our endevours and projects.

>>1513222
Certainly. Easily done with a walk around, gimme a bit

>>1513197
>>1513208
Right, looks like we have a use for web-tunnelers then.

>>1513205
Sheeeeeeeit

Guys, what do you think of trying to get think tank brains to use tesla coiled bodies?
Our brain thinks that if they do that, they will regain tremendous amount of sanity.

>>1513327
Thats if they were in bodies, bit connected. Connecting a coils to each of the think tank might give us a sane version of the think tank, while leaving us with the regular crazy jars, though

>>1513333
I think our brain meant that they will become like it, where it has our body to ground it and keep it sane.

>>1512996
>American engineering

>>1513025
>simple salient green caucus.

>>1513054
>old world fabric

>>1513075
>permit it

>>1513433
No tunneler webbing for the fabric?

>>1513075
>Permit him, with the understanding that this is an entirely experimental procedure, and that you did not have it done to you willingly.

>>1513450
Honestly I don't want unity to be touching shit until we can get firm proof of loyalty and also being don't wast'em touching something we should try and train

>>1513454
Agreed
>>1513433
Agreed

>>1512996
>[Set up a small concrete mixing yard. Go and scout out for Limestone, Clay, and Fine Sand which should be out there somewhere. Then build a Small Concrete Plant. Make plain, but sturdy, concrete buildings]

This will allow us to produce some decent structures for now without investing tonnes of resources into a industrial setup we might be unable to support.

>>1513025
>[Old Fashioned Crop Farms. We got the water, now lets get too it]

We can move onto more complex methods once we have a stable supply of food setup and ready for consumption.

>>1513054
[Old World Fabric – 50% Cotton 50% Nylon. It means we’ll need to grow Cotton Crops and build a chemical mill to produce Nylon, as well as consume some amounts of coal, you’ll need to mine this or make Charcoal from wood. Plus, you’ll need an amount of fuel such as ethanol or at least Unity’s fuel which should be safe when burnt (we can test this to be safe). Its complicated, and before mass industrialization might only be able to make a few uniforms a day. But this is far superior to Brahmin Leather, somewhat more flame retardant, and will provide better perks to your soldiers]

We don't exactly have the numbers to make mass production important.

>>1513075
>Permit him, it would be hypocritical to say its wrong

See if anyone else wants to take the procedure as well.

Hmmm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds8Kd99A-rA

What might have been, or what might be one day?

I'm back, can i vote in >>1513025

>>1513980
Yes, I'll be busy most of the day

>>1513998
Hey OP, obviously we know what the American route will produce in regards to buildings but can we get some details on the other kinds?

>>1512996
>[Set up a small Chinese forge, then smelt parts for a Small Chinese Steel Mill, to build Recycled Steel Plate structures]
Then later we upgrade to
>[American Engineering is the best! Show the world the meaning of Quality. Find the materials. Build the small concrete yard and the small forge, then build both a Small Concrete Plant, a Small Chinese Steel Mill, and a Small Chemical Mill. Build true old world steel reinforced concrete structures to last hundreds of years!]
>>1513025
>[Old Fashioned Crop Farms. We got the water, now lets get too it]
>[Let’s try the simple Salient Green Cacti method. We’ll need to reverse engineer and build a bigger X-22 version, and a cactus farm, but once it’s done we’ll have a versatile food source that can be turned into medicine or fuel]
People will be given seeds to grow their own food, there will also be a national Cacti farm which will produce Salient Green.
Can we still do the 3rd and 4rth options later?
>>1513054
>[Old World Fabric – 50% Cotton 50% Nylon. It means we’ll need to grow Cotton Crops and build a chemical mill to produce Nylon, as well as consume some amounts of coal, you’ll need to mine this or make Charcoal from wood. Plus, you’ll need an amount of fuel such as ethanol or at least Unity’s fuel which should be safe when burnt (we can test this to be safe). Its complicated, and before mass industrialization might only be able to make a few uniforms a day. But this is far superior to Brahmin Leather, somewhat more flame retardant, and will provide better perks to your soldiers]

Can we make wood from Salient Green?

>>1514018
Can you clarify your question? Are you asking about specific building options?

I'd need to come up with a list but one that comes to mind is the Chinese Warfactory blueprints they have for producing vehicles. But you need at least a small steel mill to make any use of it.

>>1514037
Not really

Also on the topic of wood, what do you intend it for? As a building material?

>>1514050
>As a building material?
Yes.

>>1514047
I am asking what the different options will result in in regards to style, comfort and safety.

Like clearly scrap buildings aren't great but what are they like? How much better are the reprocessed steel plate buildings? What about the concrete buildings?

>>1514050
Which reminds me, could we turn criminals into Salient green?

>>1514080
>>1514050
>>1514057
Well anon's Concert buildings survive alot better and more nukes then steel plate buildings. But we could alway bolt steel onto our concrete buildings.

>>1514080
>Which reminds me, could we turn criminals into Salient green?
Give it some research. Cannibalism has some serious stigma in the wasteland.

>>1514121
It's not cannibalism if it's not human meat.


No worse than using them as an alternative fertiliser...

File: Steel-building-background.jpg (93 KB, 750x448)

93 KB JPG

>>1514080
Steel buildings can be made more airtight, useful for keeping things warm at night and makes air conditioning possible (which is good because you have excess electricity than you would have in the Mojave). Less prone to leaks, and more durable.

A chemical mill would allow you to make paints as well, increasing their long term durability.

They also have aesthetic value, a town made of well planned steel buildings and if you even get glass looks much better than a scrap shantytown.

File: steel-home-04.jpg (71 KB, 1200x464)

71 KB JPG

>>1514134

File: Nepal-Use-Cheap-Simple-St(...).jpg (21 KB, 300x255)

21 KB JPG

>>1514151

>>1514080
>Which reminds me, could we turn criminals into Salient green?
>>1514121
>Give it some research.
Salient green is people!

>>1514134
>>1514151
>>1514164
Can the concrete buildings not achieve the same effects? Or is there something I am not understanding...

>>1514179
Concrete buildings can, however steel is usually cheaper.

>>1514201
Really? I mean I know concrete is more resource intensive but it seems like steel is something we want to try and reserve for weapons and such.

File: finished_concrete_home_WA.jpg (52 KB, 536x357)

52 KB JPG

>>1514179
Concrete has a luxury appeal to it, its considered high class to live in one in the post apoc. Only people in Vault City, Shady Sands, and New Vegas get to live in good concrete buildings for example.

It is also more sturdy and permanent than steel, and allows for larger structures In general seel buildings would be limited to to 2 floors at best. while with proper reinforced concrete you can make apartment complexes.

It is a lengthier investment, naturally.

>>1514212
honestly, Its because you need more things to make concert and mix, then dry it. Where as steel can be abunch of scrap sheets and boom. Shanty house.

File: Budynek_fotka.jpg (31 KB, 562x340)

31 KB JPG

>>1514212
The steel used in steel buildings is relatively flat and pressed, not like tank or power armor. Steel is actually quite abundant as scrap, its just the and intelligence means to use it is not. Only the NCR for example, has working steel mills.

The BoS has some too in their bunkers, but are limited due to their habit of living in bunkers.

The Pitt in Fo3 was getting very rich by working some massive Old World steel mills with slave labor.

---

>>1514218
Concrete will allow you to build higher and taller structures which can provide luxuries such as electricity, gas ovens, and plumbing.

It is also, ostensibly, more durable to attack than steel buildings.

>>1514231
And if you invest in the small steel mill, they wouldn't even be shanty houses. They'd be just houses.

>>1514254
Don't you lie to me, A Steel house is shit.

>>1514218
Oh! It's reinforced concrete, now it makes sense why it is better. Yeah I think I will maintain my vote for concrete buildings.

>>1514231
True but what we are talking about is melting steel down and remaking it into a new building.

>>1514251
I see, I see.

>>1514254
Great to know.

File: SteelHouse-Header.jpg (189 KB, 1440x600)

189 KB JPG

>>1514259
It depends on what's inside it really. Does it have windows? Plumbing? Refrigeration?

Laundry and air conditioning is something usually reserved for the rich, people would be hugely impressed if everyone had them.

>>1514273
I've had to build both, Concert will always be better then Steel. however this is fallout so thats life. Still keeping my vote on concert though. We should want durable as fuck houses and sturdy if we plan on building and also properly plan it out to make sense. None of that Washington or London issue shit.

>>1514283
Are you an actual construction worker or involved in it? I'd give mad bonuses for legitimate construction knowledge used in your plans.

>>1514283
What are some of the issues with steel structures btw? Where I live they're popular for things like churches.

>>1514292
Was involved with it, Now a mason and even now I'm in danger of losing my job because of shitty prefab and steel.

File: 027.jpg (39 KB, 640x512)

39 KB JPG

>>1514301

>>1514301
>>1514307
Same.