>>1375557
FOR HOUSE AND DOMINION

>>1375557
FOR HOUSE AND DOMINION

death to traitors

In the Jerboa dwarf galaxy the fleet stirred up trouble while stealing or salvaging whatever enemy equipment you could get your hands on. Attacks on troop convoys delayed 2 major planetary assaults long enough for Helios to build up forces to better defend their worlds.

Assisting Helios intelligence the fleet was able to provide captured ships and transports allowing them to better insert agents and carry out other missions. These eventually allowed you to discover the locations of several POW holding facilities. You went after two of them, determined to get back some of your people that had been lost behind the lines. One was responsible for dealing with troublesome prisoners while the other was an advanced interrogation facility that may have been trying to create sleeper agents.

Raids on other convoys, outposts and colonies caused enough damage that the enemy was forming a dedicated taskforce to deal with you by the time you left. All of this brought in impressive salvage hauls, enough that over the course of the campaign the fleet had to make 2 trips back to friendly lines before your final escape.

Heading next to the Helios home galaxy your salvage was sold to House Ceres, the most powerful Human led House. Hard pressed by House Bonrah they are nevertheless holding the line through their industrial might.

While Ceres certainly would have liked your help there were other Houses who clearly needed it a great deal more. Proceeding at best speed the fleet rushed to an area of the lines were your allies had suffered a terrible defeat. Thoroughly routed your allies were near to being cut off by a double envelopment that would have trapped 5 fleets worth of ships. Attacking what you perceived to be the weaker of the flanks you destroyed logistics supporting the enemy leading elements and opened a hole in the lines.

Having bought valuable time your allies were able to rally and prevent the encirclement. Several fleets were still lost but with Arron's assistance an Admiral by the name of J'ore Tl'heix was able to capture a POW holding facility then strike at an enemy repair yard. With Arron scouting the way for them, the expanded fleet broke through the weakened lines and linked up with friendly forces.

Over the next day two more friendly fleets arrived from other Houses, reinforcing the lines and allowing you to push far enough to reach a Talos class Heavy Carrier you crippled. Despite damage to much of its systems as a result off attempts to scuttle it, the vessel is in good shape to be salvaged. It seems the Talos class has been built a little too tough.

You've officially claimed the Heavy Carrier as salvage. It takes a week of negotiations but Fadiliy is able to find someone to split the repair costs with.
As she put it. "An ambitious House nearby that would be willing to split repair and recovery costs in return for a year's use."

House Jerik-Dremine will supply an experienced crew to assist in operating the ship and training personnel from the other House. A garrison will be maintained aboard should there be an attempt to break the agreement.

Qlippoth is holding station with the crippled carrier helping to protect salvage and repair teams. It's expected it will be needed there for 2 weeks.

With the lines stabilizing did you want to continue to act as a reserve force to help hold the region a bit longer? Or would you rather some of your squadrons take turns raiding behind the lines?

[ ] Act as reserve. Protect your prize.
[ ] Send squadrons to raid.

>>1375688
>[X] Act as reserve. Protect your prize.
Tell the fleet to be ready to go if any place/unit nearby is attacked though.

>>1375688
>[x] Send squadrons to raid.
The lower ranks need all the chances for fame and fortune they can get. We should still be able to provide enough protection with half a wing worth of ships out on raids.

>>1375688
>[ ] Send squadrons to raid.
I've been looking at how interfaction and intradominion war is going to be changed by the introduction of the assault corvettes and realized a terrible weakness.
Assault corvettes are pathetically weak to smaller guided munitions like nuclear missiles since they've largely been designed to focus on frontal firepower and superior maneuverability.

Apologies for the late game start btw.
The entire building is being switched over to LED light bulbs today.

It's always something.

>>1375688
[X] Send squadrons to raid.

Did we give up the Helios rookies?

We should rotate our forces, sending say a wing to raid + a backup wing, while the others hold in reserve and conduct repairs? I believe we've had success with this before.

>>1375688
>[a] Send squadrons to raid.

>>1375734
>Did we give up the Helios rookies?
Yes. The 2 squadrons stayed in the previous dwarf galaxy. I think there are a couple replacements still in the attack squadrons though. Not many.

>We should rotate our forces, sending say a wing to raid + a backup wing
Would this deployment be acceptable to everyone else?

If so roll 8d20

Rolled 1, 4, 9, 5, 14, 8, 17, 4 = 62 (8d20)

>>1375763
Acceptable.

Rolled 1, 13 = 14 (2d20)

>>1375763
>8d20

oh boy here we go

Rolled 8, 18, 4, 3, 20, 19 = 72 (6d20)

>>1375769
uh, whoops.

Rolled 3, 5, 9, 2, 10, 19, 6, 17 = 71 (8d20)

>>1375763

>>1375763
>Would this deployment be acceptable to everyone else?
I'd prefer sending one wing total.

>rolled 3, 13, 9, 18, 14, 19, 20, 19
Whoever gets the first roll won't have a particularly nice day.

>>1375780
>Whoever gets the first roll won't have a particularly nice day.
Why is it always the attack cruiser wing?! They're the most expensive ships!


You tell the Wing Commanders that you don't want to sit idle, especially so close to Talos space. The last thing you want is for the enemy to have a chance to get organised for another attack.

"Keep doing what we've been doing, we just have a more stationary base to work out of this time. Call for help if you need it, I don't want to lose anyone else out here before we get to go home."

Things immediately go wrong. Pal'am's unit is ambushed shortly after they cross into enemy territory. The unit standing by as reinforcements jump in as quick as possible though it takes them a few minutes to arrive.

It seems the enemy brought in a mixed unit of Dragoons armed with plasma cannons and Hades assault corvettes. Thanks to the reinforcements the unit was saved but they took severe damage and used nearly all of their SP Torpedo stocks to keep from being wiped out.

Crews that teleported out are now trapped on worlds behind enemy lines.
Did you want to send Arron and your Recon teams to attempt recovery?
>Y/N?

Also roll 1d100 for emergency battlefield salvage efficiency.

Rolled 16 (1d100)

>>1375875
Y

I believe in salvagedice.

>>1375875
>Did you want to send Arron and your Recon teams to attempt recovery?

Sounds like a plan.

Rolled 55 (1d100)

>>1375875
Y
should probably just make way more mixed wings with specialized squadrons as support at this point.

Rolled 72 (1d100)

>>1375875
>Did you want to send Arron and your Recon teams to attempt recovery?
Sure.

>Also roll 1d100 for emergency battlefield salvage efficiency.

Rolled 69 (1d100)

>>1375875
>Y/N?
Y

If only we could still find salvage that led to salvage that led to salvage.

>>1375875
>Did you want to send Arron
Slightly related - considering how much of an impact a scout with a cloaking device has had during our deployment would it be possible to send the stealth frigates we captured to this galaxy and the one we raided before to help our allies?

Thanks to fast acting on the part of the salvage teams most of the very expensive attack cruisers were able to be recovered. Some are complete write-offs and will need to be scrapped but better than half can be rebuilt.

You and your commanders go over data on the region to figure out how the unit was ambushed and to determine means of preventing it from happening in the future. Arron will look for hidden sensor arrays while on trips in and out of enemy territory.

From now on deployments are planned expecting an ambush to take place somewhere. The backup team are deployed expecting this trying to determine how best to place themselves to destroy a potential ambusher. This tactic seems to work quite well, inflicting heavy losses on enemy units and allowing your wing commanders to resume hitting targets.

Roll 2d100 for Recon & recovery.

Rolled 58, 85 = 143 (2d100)

>>1375940
>Roll 2d100 for Recon & recovery

I've just thought of it, but how does Sonia's (and her fleet, by extension) general level of success compare to the average unit of the same size? Is there anyone out there that Sonia knows of that's doing better?

>>1375932
They're at quite a premium and needed elsewhere.

Rolled 55, 89 = 144 (2d100)

>>1375940

Rolled 56, 100 = 156 (2d100)

>>1375940

>>1375951
Looks like we get everyone.

>>1375951
Pozzi out of fucking nowhere.

>>1376005
Naintenance crews in J-D space are definitely not running some weird cult revering Pozzi as the patron saint of successful emergency teleporter use.

More than 3/4 of the crews are located and recovered by your Recon teams and marines. In most cases they get in and out with the cloaked ship, though a few are recovered using captured transports with forged ID's.

Of those not recovered the crews of 5 ships are new believed to have been killed aboard their ships or by injuries after teleporting out. Data is intercepted revealing that a few of the crews have been captured and are already on their way to more secure facilities deep inside enemy territory.
Fortunately you now know which ones so they can be asked for by name in prisoner exchanges.

With the enemy officers you've captured previously it should be a simple matter of arranging a prisoner exchange. They'll be back in a couple of months at most.

Two days after the end of search efforts some survivors that had been unaccounted for reach friendly lines. Janine Soler has somehow managed to escape the planet she had landed on and steal a new model of Vulture class ship.

"We just snagged some unit patches and threw them on the crews uniforms. I just pretended I was their prisoner until we got to a ship."

From the raids and counter-ambush tactics your forces are able to salvage a full squadron worth of ships that can be quickly repaired. Enough to fill the gap left by the loss of attack cruisers.

Two weeks spent in the area are enough to get the crippled Talos into a state ready to jump. Crews and troops from J-D space have arrived to help inspect the ship and ensure that it hasn't been sabotaged further.
Temporary engine modules provide enough sublight engine power for the replaced FTL to function. A series of short jumps take you farther away from the lines until you reach a shipyard large enough to handle reconstruction.

"Done and done sir."

"Good. Let's get set for the trip home."

Did you want to take a relatively easy route back to the homeworlds? Maybe you could escort a convoy along the way.
Or will you try to cut through part of enemy territory to help out the front line fighting nearer to home?

[ ] Easy route / convoy escort
[ ] Cut through enemy territory
[ ] Other

>>1376109
>[x] Cut through enemy territory

>>1376109
>[ ] Easy route / convoy escort
Lets not risk the carrier we worked so hard to capture at the very end.

>>1376109
>[X] Easy route / convoy escort

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>>1376143
There are a few routes back, either Nasidum or Xygen fronts. You could even visit Gesaur and stage from there since it wouldn't be as long of a flight.

>>1376215
>Lets not risk the carrier we worked so hard to capture at the very end.
The crippled Talos carrier would remain in the Helios home galaxy until it is fully operational. A local heavy cruiser grade dock will be used for repair work since there are plenty around for Ascendancy class ships.

>>1376238
Oh, I'll change my vote to going through enemy territory then. Also by going along the Xygen front, since IIRC they have some special plasma rifles.

Also, does anyone else mess up and spell it Nasidium instead of Nasidum? It just seems to flow better for me.

>>1376109
>[ ] Cut through enemy territory

>>1376254
Not me, but there's plenty others that I do screw up.

>>1376269
Okay, so going through enemy territory it looks like.

Did you want to;

1) Come in from above the plane of the galaxy
2) Edge of the galaxy, through contested region
3) Edge and through deeper enemy territory
4) Visit Gesaur and strike from there

>>1376277
3) Edge and through deeper enemy territory
While seemingly counter intuitive being further away from the battlefront means a lower density of enemies and more room for manuever/shenanigans. Sure its further from friendly territory but get too close to the forward fleets and its likely if your detected you're in immediate range of a battle group. Plus Sonia (spetznaz) outa fucking nowhere is kinda of our thing, kicking the enemy right in the logistics.

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>>1376295
In this metaphor the man is a convoy.

>>1376277
>4) Visit Gesaur and strike from there
I'm interested to see what's happened to the place. Hasn't it been a decade since Sonia was there?

My headache is reaching the point where I think I may have to stop.

10 more minutes for votes.

>>1376295
>>1376315
Doing both.

Visit Gesaur and then Edge through deeper enemy territory.

To prevent your fleet from being overwhelmed it would remain on the move advancing constantly. Your two jamming craft should be of great aid in minimizing reports of your attacks until you've moved on.

Would this plan be ok?

Either way I'm stopping here for tonight.

>>1376440
Yeah, that's fine with me.

>>1376469
Oh, alright. See you next time.

>>1375712
Wait, arent nuclear missiles effectively negated by shields?

>>1375712
>>1376837
1 GP series torpedo will do about as much damage to a ships shields as 5 conventional 30Mt nuclear warheads.

>>1376865
So basically nuclear missiles would need to be 30 times cheaper than a GP torpedo, have superior targeting and/or maneuverability, and have the ability to be fired faster than torpedoes to make their superior numbers matter for them to be feasible side grades.

Also, just had an idea. Have you thought about making a Star Destroyer style siege ship? It seems like the shape and angled top/bottom faces would be good for focusing a lot of guns at one point in front of it.
I hope no one else suggested something like this.

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>>1376888
Missiles have the advantage that most of the explosion isn't focused in one direction, so they can double as cheap disposable ECM. They also have the disadvantage that most of the explosion isn't focused in one direction, so they're worse at doing actual damage. Mind you, nuclear missiles can be replaced with fusion or anti-matter warheads, and J-D is using GX torpedoes instead of the older GP version.

>Heavy
Looooong ago, when Sonia decided to start a heavy cruiser/carrier shipyard, TSTG offered us several experimental heavy designs for production. One of them was basically a star destroyer.
>Twin plasma / fusion cannon turrets all over the place. Those could either be big starfighter bays on the sides or perhaps docking points for tankers to refuel the guns.
See thread 37202137, post >>37258398, on 4plebs or suptg.

Ship F) ended up as the first version of the ship Sonia's yard is currently producing, ship M) was fielded by the enemy fleet during the last invasion of DRH1, and we've seen a lot of the Talos carrier and various Ascendancy upgrades.

TSTG, with how well Qlippoth performed during these raids maybe we could convince Helios to develop that 'Fast' Heavy Carrier with Jerik-Dremine? There's definitely a place for this kind of ship in Dominion fleets, and Helios seems to be set on using only indigenous designs. We have rebuilt Qlippoth, access to the Talos repair facility blueprints, and a whole slew of Aries designs.

We really need to build more shipyards.

>>1376440
>Would this plan be ok?
I think we should decide on how to proceed once we've reached Gesaur. We might be able to help the RH a bit. if I remember correctly, the system's one of their strongholds. They even stationed a mobile asteroid fortress there, I think.

I've also had an idea to make some money with relatively little investment at least compared to other ideas .
1. Start a frigate size refit yard in the PCCG, if possible in the same system as the assault corvette yard our House already has there. This should be cheaper than a proper shipyard, as we won't have to actually build the hulls and systems.
2. Start plasma weapon production in DRH 2.
3. Buy standard frigates in the PCCG.
4. Refit them to bombard frigates.
5. Depending on the situation in PCCG space, either ship the hulls to DRH2, or the plasma guns to the refit yard.
6. Sell the finished frigates to the FA.
7. ???
8. Profit

>>1377449
I'm not sure the FA would be particularly interested in frigates that require a lot of crew and can't be equipped with high maneuver drives. Especially now that the Dominion has largely withdrawn from the FA resulting in the loss of the main source of disposable ship crew.

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>>1375557

TSTG, I got bored between the time between last thread and this thread. You had thoughts of how the Ceres Heavy Carrier should look. So I thought, I'm bored lets putz around some in paint and try to be useful. So here you go.

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>>1375557
>>1377626

Some bit of fluff: https://pastebin.com/xTwxyh3A

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>>1377632
>The pentagonal structure that comes out the top of the vessel is the location of the primary bridge for the Carrier.
I don't think it's a good idea to leave the main bridge that exposed when the ship will sooner or later be used to fight against enemies with access to SP torps. Everything else sounds good.

>>1377642

It is a rather glaring weak point I admit, but I was trying to keep it close to Spacemarine Battlebarge it was being designed off of. If a little less Gothic in appearance and more block looking in shape.

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>>1376888
>So basically nuclear missiles would need to be 30 times cheaper than a GP torpedo
And therein lies the problem.
Nukes are easier to make with lower tech but once you actually have the manufacturing in place conventional torpedoes are not terribly more expensive from a materials standpoint.

Star Destroyer shapes have been discussed to some extent, as
>>1377449
points out.

>maybe we could convince Helios to develop that 'Fast' Heavy Carrier with Jerik-Dremine?
Most of the designs there were built by someone as prototypes for sale to the Alliance. That particular one wouldn't be able to match the firepower of Qlippoth, though with some modifications it could get close.

The refit yards in the Loran system are already hard at work modifying 2 other ships to Qlippoth's specifications for some of your allies. I think 1 may have already been refit for the Alliance. Those numbers will probably increase, as will requests to buy licenses.
Understandably the price of salvaged Neeran heavy carriers on the market has jumped.

>Sell Bombard frigates to the FA.
The Alliance has bought some ships from your House and is currently conducting testing to see if they could operate well with republic formations. So far they seem adequate and are a bit easier on logistics, but the Republic weapons they have available are just plain better.

They're currently working on improving their range using Republic tech but this isn't something that will be available to the Dominion.

>>1377461
Makes a good point. Bombards can operate at skeleton crew levels but not for extended periods. They'll be extremely helpful once the civil war is over.

>>1377626
>>1377632
Neat.

Gesaur, you haven't visited the place since you helped take it back all those years ago. The others have had one reason or another to stop there but you've only ever passed by. A fortress world if ever there was one, constant construction by the Ruling House and its allies have cemented its position as a vital base and shipyard.

The two asteroid bases that had been pushed out of orbit to disrupt the Dominion fleet have been returned to their former positions, along with a new third. It looks like shipyards for assault corvettes have been built inside the asteroids while repair docks extend outwards. Heavy weapon emplacements cover the few areas not taken up by the docks.

Dominion Assault Corvettes are everywhere. Most are at the docks undergoing final fitting after construction but more are either on patrol or elsewhere in the system conducting exercises. Some are testing afterburner systems while others are trying out new equipment modules. You spot IFF's from more than 50 Houses present.

Sensors point out a few Terran, Aries and Karbos model ships taking part in what must be performance trials.

"Look, there's one of the rebuilt Supers." Maybourne tags it in the display.

Sitting outside the gravity well surrounded by a substantial escort is one of the Mega class ships the Run shipyards have rebuilt. It's easy to spot the 6 Helios siege cannon turrets mounted on it. The hull gleams slightly with the distinctive appearance of the newer anti-torpedo armor. Not a scratch on it. Hopefully they remember its a warship not a showboat.

Below the surface of Gesaur itself still shows scars of the fighting ten years ago. That's what happens when you use nuclear missiles as anti-aircraft weapons. Still, you would have expected a bit more recovery after 10 years. Probably why they've been shifting more infrastructure into space.

The fleet is directed for refueling and soon the more heavily damaged attack cruisers are offloaded for work.

"Any units for our own House present?"

"Yes sir. Judging by the IFF it looks like the Windsor test unit. They normally rotate between here and the PCCG base."

Well that's one group you can avoid speaking to. Unless you have specific plans that is?

Anything you wanted to do while in the area?

>>1377754
Maybe go have a look at the capital or that third asteroid fort if we have the time.

Also, how do mediums get normally repaired in the field? Has anyone ever designed a heavy capable of repairing a medium?

>>1377754
>Well that's one group you can avoid speaking to. Unless you have specific plans that is?
What's Windsor testing these days?

>Anything you wanted to do while in the area?
Get an update on the local situation?
Are there any interesting prototypes around?
Have a look at that Vulture Jaine brought back.

>Below the surface of Gesaur itself still shows scars of the fighting ten years ago.
Could J-D's new terraforming equipment help? What does Rufaro think about this?

>>1377754
We should chat with Windsor and see if the test units have identified any weaknesses in enemy ships that haven't been passed on yet, and hand them combat data on the enemy Dragoon/Hades ambush forces. They likely get some of the highest hours of (simulated) combat in the House.

Is there any combat in the region? Or can we arrange some R&R for our people before moving on? (Facilities on one of the bases or the super?)

>>1377754
>Not a scratch on it. Hopefully they remember its a warship not a showboat.
Can we take the tour? I'm sure there is one.

>>1377449
Wish I had known about H&D back then. Too bad.

>>1377754
Look around and see if anyone's thought of any interesting modifications to Assault Corvettes that JD guys haven't.

>>1377754
Also you forgot to announce on twitter.

>>1377762
>Maybe go have a look at the capital
It seems that visits to the surface in the area aren't recommended unless you have pressing business.

>or that third asteroid fort if we have the time.
It looks like they found an asteroid of similar if slightly smaller size to the other two out in the belt and expanded it with Lunarcrete and armor. Otherwise they've expanded it to near identical capability to the others.

>how do mediums get normally repaired in the field?
Not easily. Given enough time, materials and a full sized crew it is possible to conduct field repairs back to nearly 100%. This is harder to do this with newer ships.

>Has anyone ever designed a heavy capable of repairing a medium?
Its possible to outfit a heavy asteroid tug as a repair ship but when you have one of those its often easier to just use it to drag a ship to a nearby shipyard.
Some of the old Terran mobile docks/yards could repair medium cruisers but the classes weren't revived after the Faction Wars. The Senate class can repair some small mediums.

Many of the older supers used by the Dominion have repair capacity similar to the Forbearance. If necessary that's enough to repair a Medium given enough time, it's just not ideal.

>>1377765
>Could J-D's new terraforming equipment help? What does Rufaro think about this?
"I've read about the terraforming here. They've basically stripped the surface of everything and anything that has been contaminated with fallout. Topsoil, the outer few millimeters of most buildings, you name it. Ugly, but it can let the civilians get back to work with a minimum of protection. I don't think we could be much help here, these things just takes time."

>>1377765
>Are there any interesting prototypes around?
There were a few prototype phased plasma weapons being tested but they've been recalled after one of them exploded.

There are some highly classified showings for captured Aries stealth ships as well as the Nocturne. The House is still trying to get more sales for the hulls, though they're much more selective about the new cloaks.

The new high output jamming ship, of which you have 2, is also present. You can put in a good word for its effectiveness if you want.

Quick add on point defense and missile modules for use on assault corvettes. Things of that nature.

It seems like you already have most of the newest tech being worked on in the Dominion. What you can do is share some of the captured Aries drone data. That should give your allies a hand in keeping pace.

>What's Windsor testing these days?
>>1377784
>We should chat with Windsor
Trying to see if he can cause the new Kharbos ships to fly apart at the seams. He's also busy trying to get his hands on some of the newer Republic attack cruisers. He knows that some enemy units have got hold of older less reliable versions and would like to get the real thing.

>>1377816
>forgot to announce on twitter.
Any particular post could be my last for the day with these headaches.

>>1377829
>You can put in a good word for its effectiveness if you want.
Sure. We could share declassified bits about the ship's effectiveness.

>What you can do is share some of the captured Aries drone data.
Definitely, that seems like something that would benefit most of our allies.

>>1377829
>You can put in a good word for its effectiveness if you want.
I don't see why we wouldn't.

>What you can do is share some of the captured Aries drone data.
Yeah, definitely. This is important. They're not that much better (IIRC they're 10% more efficient?) but they'll grind down everyone's drone supplies eventually.

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>>1377449
Updated F from a while back.

>>1377449
Oh, just noticed, I didn't necessarily mean a heavy. Just make a ship of any size shaped like a Star Destroyer and put some siege cannons (or other large guns with long range) on it focused at one point in front of it to bash shields or do a lot of damage to stations or really slow ships.

>Can we take the tour? I'm sure there is one.
Indeed there is.
The interior isn't all that impressive, looking not that different from the inside of most Supers you've been aboard. Most of the tour focuses on the increased power of the ships shield and weapons. You get a close up view of the siege weapons and talk to some of the crew. A few of the gunners served aboard Foss' ship during the last big battle helping to man the captured guns.

"Our ship is armed with phase based siege weapons but some of the future ones are expected to be equipped with prototype plasma weapons that Helios is working on."

>>1377765
>Have a look at that Vulture Jaine brought back.
This Vulture is more streamlined with the engines modified to make better use of repulsors. It has modified high maneuver drives which improve its chances against newer more nimble craft.
More missile racks have been added to the wings. There are more mounting points for light phase cannon turrets or arrays, though they're currently empty.

It seems like someone wanted a more powerful attack cruiser but couldn't get them for whatever reason so they upgraded the Vulture. Avun is not familiar with them so it is probably a modification that was started after she left.
"Maybe a rich noble wanted a signature ship for their unit?"

According to Janine Soler it handles quite well, though it cant compare to the EC-K or Dusk II in firepower or engine performance. Having lost her previous ship she intends to stick with this one for the time being.

>>1377816
>Look around and see if anyone's thought of any interesting modifications to Assault Corvettes that JD guys haven't.
There are apparently representatives from a number of Republic yards present asking about mounting LD plasma cannons on assault corvettes. They've been informed that this is not currently possible. Even the Kharbos frigate modules wouldn't allow for that.
Still, they seem insistent on finding a way. Unusual since the Republic doesn't use assault corvettes.


I need to step out for a bit due to a family thing. Sorry for the short notice.

>>1377903
>According to Janine Soler it handles quite well, though it cant compare to the EC-K or Dusk II in firepower or engine performance.
That ship is awesome. Have our engineers look at it, then put it into production. The current kavarian cruiser model will easily bankrupt a house if you try to field even a wing of them but if we can manage to keep the basic configuration of the improved Vulture with high maneuver drives below 10 million, we'll have a ship that will sell like hotcakes. Just remember when J-D couldn't afford stuff in many ship categories because the dominion only has one super expensive design available.

>Still, they seem insistent on finding a way. Unusual since the Republic doesn't use assault corvettes.
I think it's more likely somebody will find a way to shove a sawn-off LD (ULD?) plasma cannon into a regular or streched standard corvette instead of that. Assault corvettes seem to lack the space necessary for anything derived from the current designs.

Secure message from House Helios.

Helios has made a breakthrough with their research of the artifact you've loaned them. While they can't hope to match its potential for a long time it has let them find a way to take a few shortcuts.

Holographic cooling systems have been unlocked. Prototypes are now under construction by Helios for testing with their plasma based siege cannons. These have been deemed a priority and will take precedence over LD or Medium guns.


News from the front.
After a string of recent Neeran attacks and the destruction of 5 more colonies, the Isolationist Neeran have deployed some 90 of their super heavy cruisers to the front. Better late than never seems to be the general feeling among the media.
The Isolationists PR people seem to be trying to play up the whole Light Neeran angle.

>>1378031
>90 neeran super heavies
It's always fun to be reminded just how insane the scale of the FA vs Imperial Neeran war is.

>>1378031

And to think, the biggest ship we've had to fight in this entire exchange so far is a Mobile Fort. Though I guess that doesn't really count as a ship does it? So much as a rock with engines and weapons mounts.

>>1378031
>Holographic cooling systems have been unlocked.
Does this make our guns look cooler as well? Do they make big blue lightshows when firing?

I feel like we immediately need to get producing these things and applying them to the larger Plasma Weapons we can produce to REALLY upstage Republic Plasma.

Imagine if we turned up to a Republic Arms fair with an LD Plasma cannon that was EVEN SMALLER.

Or turned up with a functional Super Plasma Cannon that they couldn't even get properly cooled.

>>1378031
>Holographic cooling systems have been unlocked
Neat. How much do they improve plasma and phase cannons at the moment?

>Helios
Did they ever get to test that 2km laser against neeran shields?

>After a string of recent Neeran attacks and the destruction of 5 more colonies
I think the Dominion should send a small fleet of 'volunteers' to the neeran front to test new equipment against the ships and tactics used by the enemy.

>>1378063
Blue LEDs make the guns cooler!

>>1378063
>Does this make our guns look cooler as well? Do they make big blue lightshows when firing?
No, that's extra and unrelated to the cooling systems. The Great Devourer does have such an upgrade. Such a system could be applied to older siege cannons to weaken enemy morale but they would use a lot of power.

>>1378074
>How much do they improve plasma and phase cannons at the moment?
In theory? Enough to get the cooling problem that Republic heavy guns have under control.
In practice they don't know yet since they're still building prototypes for Dominion weapons.

>Did they ever get to test that 2km laser against neeran shields?
Not yet, they can't spare the ships to send one off to the Neeran front.

>>1378095
>Such a system could be applied to older siege cannons to weaken enemy morale but they would use a lot of power.
But if your style completely eclipses the enemy's while they kill you, can the enemy really say they won?

>>1378095
We should probably call up London and get a status update on everything that our various companies are up to. Just in case we want to redirect efforts to some other ventures especially when it comes to that asteroid research base that developed the HAG

>>1378095
>In practice they don't know yet since they're still building prototypes for Dominion weapons.
We could try to convince the FA to ship a large plasma cannon to their base in the run, and have our engineers try to build a prototype for repulic guns there?

Would this cooling system allow us to put super heavy plasma cannons on ships?

>>1378130
No Scorchers for you.

>>1378116
Everything the company builds or refits are selling well. There was some concern that you were going to lose out on more Lance class ships but that's blown over. Demands for transports are through the roof with both sides of the civil war targeting logistics.

Salvage contracts in South Reach are on the rise though they are becoming more hazardous operations. They've had to turn down a few due to the risks involved or increase rates to the point where Houses decided to look elsewhere.

R&D has officially finished on the point defense HAG. Orders for the 3 types of ship are now split more or less evenly in terms of numbers. Building a third LST line at another base would probably be a good idea.

The RSS R&D team is ready for another project. This team has a bonus to modifying existing hull designs. Try to choose projects with this in mind.

>>1378156
There's always array-chan, waiting to get her engines.

>This team has a bonus to modifying existing hull designs
>Try to choose projects with this in mind.
The Lance heavy torpedo battery modification from a few threads ago?

>>1378156
>The RSS R&D team is ready for another project
That raiding ship literally everyone but the pirates would hate us for making.
How about we try to find a way to put LD plasma cannons on Assault Corvettes?

>>1378156
Forbearance type toughened champion supers! The fast super heavies for the house pinching the pennies.

Work with the south reach to set it up!

>>1378156

I've been kicking a few ideas around involving Aries ships/tech. Is there any list of what Aries tech we have captured (doesn't need everything, just what we have).
Or what data we recovered from the Talos?

>>1378173
>The Lance heavy torpedo battery modification from a few threads ago?
Oh right. That they could do. It wouldn't even take that long.

>>1378175
>>1378179
With either of these they could carry out a feasibility study first so as to not sink too much time or resources into a project.

>>1378194
You've captured or bought at least one of pretty much everything Aries has put into mass production. The only thing that isn't the case for would be their dedicated AM torpedo battleship. I think.

>>1378212
Can we vote to do the torpedo batter modification, then the feasibility studies, then have another vote on what to research when they finish?

>The only thing that isn't the case for would be their dedicated AM torpedo battleship
IIRC we destroyed one when we took over the traitor Houses next to JD space, but we haven't taken a whole one.
I guess we found our next salvage mission. I mean target.

>>1378212
Err, I meant production data, but I guess we could reverse engineer anything captured?

Has DHI begun any sort of "add Aries tech to our engines/reactors" projects? It all counts as spoils of war at this point, right?

It would be pretty funny to undercut Aries engines and other component sales to say the FA.

>>1378228
>but I guess we could reverse engineer anything captured?
Eventually.
I think you only have full production data on the Athena and some of their drones.

>Has DHI begun any sort of "add Aries tech to our engines/reactors" projects?
They're certainly testing the highest performance engines that have been captured.

Aries engines and reactors all tend to be higher thrust and performance than those made by DHI but they're less tough/reliable. DHI engines are quite good all around and are more comparable to GE's better quality stuff, although they cost a little bit more.

>>1378221
>Can we vote to do the torpedo batter modification, then the feasibility studies, then have another vote on what to research when they finish?
That would work.
Opinions?

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>>1378272
>I think you only have full production data on the Athena and some of their drones.
We also have the production data for the Zeus, if I remember correctly.

>Opinions?
The torpedo mod seems like a decent choice because it's quick to design and boosts the combat capabilities of a widely available design. There's lots of crazy ideas to pick from after that.

Mine's a budget medium cruiser to offer an alternative to the sledge/lance. Using the same construction as the sledge and alliance escort, it reuses parts from more established dominion medium cruiser designs. You can reequip the base ship with armor derived from the shukhant, or more engines. Only way to mount medium plasma guns would most likely be spinal cannons but we could at least use the scaled down design from the gunship mk2 for those.

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>>1378298
Ooops, missed a bit of the ship when I did the armor upgrade package.

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>>1378298
>>1378306
I like this and can totally see this working for the next generation of Shukhant.

In the short term however modifying the Eminence II might work better. It's already made up of a fairly modular construction.

>>1378212
Can they do a study and a project?

I really like the Micro Fast Super idea based on Forbearance. There's a ton of unused Champion hulls to convert too.

>>1378326
>I like this and can totally see this working for the next generation of Shukhant.
I got the idea for that ship when I realized medium cruisers are a category the dominion only builds pretty expensive ships in. A relatively cheap medium built in the dominion would have probably helped J-D quite a bit in the past. For example, when they couldn't afford to replace the shukhants they lost. The idea with the armor came later, when I had a look at the shukhant history gif.

I guess it would be an entirely new ship, or a at least a heavy redesign of the sledge or alliance escort if we want to minimize the construction cost of the base ship.

Another idea: A modular armor package for the sledge or alliance escort.

>>1378156
>Salvage contracts in South Reach are on the rise though they are becoming more hazardous operations. They've had to turn down a few due to the risks involved or increase rates to the point where Houses decided to look elsewhere.
Could the high risk salvage teams benefit from a more modern defensive fleet?
Damn it I don't think we're actually producing any frigates but we could get our hands on relatively modern versions by accepting ships as partial payment for assault corvettes and other ships we're producing. Not many but enough to modernize the defensive fleet.

>>1378355
>Could the high risk salvage teams benefit from a more modern defensive fleet?
Even the older Firestorm our salvage fleet is using is a serious threat to modern ships.

>>1378363
that's because the firestorm is a great ship.
switching out standard corvettes and Daggers to even the outdated attack corvettes would be an improvement.

>>1378339
>Can they do a study and a project?
They could do one followed by another, not at the same time.

>There's a ton of unused Champion hulls to convert too.
There are?

>>1378352
The Sledge would be the easiest and benefit the most from that... but then there's the whole thing with pirates.
Positives and negatives to either option.

>>1378355
>Could the high risk salvage teams benefit from a more modern defensive fleet?
Ask yourself: What would it take to keep a fleet like Sonia's from massacring a salvage team?

This is why they don't take certain jobs regardless of how well equipped the escorts are.

>>1378393
Ah so it's that level of danger.

>>1378393
>What would it take to keep a fleet like Sonia's from massacring a salvage team?
A salvage team crewed mostly by sentient space sharks?

>>1378406
I'd argue that would entice Sonia to attack them rather than deter her.

>>1378393
>There are?
Yeah when we discussed this idea before I recall you mentioning that Champion hulls weren't that popular because they'd sometimes snap so they were abandoned in favor of the thicker kinds.

We discussed buying the plans for them from Iratar too but if I remember correctly the design was old enough that they were semi-open that all we'd need to do is figure out an old champion.

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>>1378411
>"I-I want to headpat at least one of them!"
>"Sir, do you really think it's a smart idea to try that with something that has teeth larger than your head?"
>patpatpatpat
Sonia'sbodyguards.gif

>>1378414
>Champion hulls weren't that popular because they'd sometimes snap so they were abandoned in favor of the thicker kinds
That's Ultra/Fanatic hulls.

>>1378414
>Yeah when we discussed this idea before I recall you mentioning that Champion hulls weren't that popular because they'd sometimes snap so they were abandoned in favor of the thicker kinds.
Ultra. They suffered that problem. Champion and Mega are the same width, just different length.

I remember a few anons wanting to build or market faster champions several times though the question always remained where they'd get them from. Building them yourself would have been an option if the Forbearance yard had been upgraded to a full shipyard instead of the one for medium cruisers. That is now effectively locked out. With that yard.

There are options that remain available but would require finding someone else with a shipyard to fund, or completing a feasibility study and seeing where that went.

This is the current order the R&D people will be working on projects you've assigned to them. Would you prefer this order be changed?

1 [Lance Torp upgrade], 2 [Feasibility A/CRV], 3 [Feasibility SHC]

>>1378326
Hey.

Hey.

Hear me out. I got this, hear me out, I got this, this idea. Because guck Neerans and their psychic hack bullshit.

Fuck 'em.

Anyways we're using drone fighters in space right? Right. So why not drone troops? Heck why not tethered and EMP hardened floating gun drones the can detach if necessary and use simple autonomous programming and hace no wi-fi stule communication abilities, controlled by someone stuck in superheavy armor that's designed to be like a hard point of fuck you plasma and lighting guns?

Then they can send little drones to run out and shoot or suicide Neerans from outside their psychic bullshit range, or be suited up with "You can see it but you can't dodge it" weaponry and armour if they push past them.

Something something nanomachine soldiers on the end of a long wire around contained AM reactions that can be destabilized and explode if the connection is cut.

>>1378454
>Would you prefer this order be changed?
Didn't we have a survey with more ideas last time research came up? Unfortunately 4plebs isn't working atm, so I can't find the additional options we had last time.

>>1378470
>more ideas
Found them: >>987085
>Planetary Occupation Platform A (Alpha strike model. Pico Medium Hull. + Iratar support)
>Planetary Occupation Platform B (Barge. More mobility between systems. +CCD Support)
>Eminence II Light weight / Scrap built
>Downsized Kavarian AC/Missile Destroyer
>Lance upgrade module, Medium plasma cannon
>Lance/Aries torpedo battery modification (Permanant upgrade)
>Z5X Manned Bomber model
>Z10 Avenger development support. (They won't be able to do this on their own but it would help move the project along.)

>>1378460
>So why not drone troops?
Aries produces infantry support drones. They're a floating gun. They can be configured with hacking modules.

Nobody in the House wants to risk using them right now because of the potential for Aries backdoor programs.

>plasma and lighting guns?
They can be equipped with the older cheaper man portable anti-tank guns yes.

>>1378470
>Didn't we have a survey with more ideas last time research came up?
I'll search my files.
>Files containing "R&D" : Civil War 1-48
Well that wasn't helpful. Tried going through some of the surveys too.

>>1378499
World building thread. Okay, that helps.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/976448/#p987085

With this many options we're almost certainly going to have to go to survey for it.

>>1378506
Why not wait to hold the survey when we've done the torpedo upgrade and studies since they'll be quick?

Anyway, would it be possible to hire a second Research team?

LINK THIS POST.

A) These options followed by an R&D Survey?
1 [Lance Torp upgrade], 2 [Feasibility A/CRV], 3 [Feasibility SHC]

or

B) R&D Survey right now

>>1378520
A

>>1378520
>A)
Anticipating a survey is even better than having a survey.

>>1378520
A

>>1378520
A

>>1378520
A

At any rate the survey will be ready when we need it.

The design team gets to work on modifications to the Aries heavy torped battery and Lance class.
Let's get a 1d100 to see if how much time your design team will be able to shave off.

Rolled 22 (1d100)

>>1378590

Rolled 97 (1d100)

>>1378590
>Let's get a 1d100
Rolling for science snek!

Rolled 32 (1d100)

>>1378590
I love our scientists!

>>1378594
They've managed to find a way to cut nearly half the time off the project without sacrificing structural strength.

Was there anything else to take care of before your raiding mission?

>>1378622
Call Sonia's family?

I can't think of anything that's vital.

>>1378622
>Was there anything else to take care of before your raiding mission?
How's Bekka doing?

>>1378622
>Was there anything else to take care of before your raiding mission?
See if all the SP Plasma Pistol rounds sold with Ferrigold?

>>1378626
>Call Sonia's family?
They're hoping you'll stop by when you're in the area. Things are going well there. Only one set of emergency shelter drills since the last time you called. Dad is putting in a lot more hours at work the past few weeks so something may be up.

>>1378630
>How's Bekka doing?
She has her own squadron now, though it's currently under strength. They've seen their share of front line combat so Winifred now has them hunting down pirates and slavers.
In the process she's managed to recruit a few people for your mercenary units in the region.
Currently she has 2.3 million S from a combination of salvage rights and other prizes. Winifred still considers her too irresponsible to Knight at this time, especially when there are others better suited.

Overall Bekka is doing better than she was earlier in the year when a few people she knew were killed in one of the larger battles.

>>1378730
>d'awww her first squadron
>d'awww her first million
>d'awww her first dead flightmates
It's probably a good thing she ended up in a different galaxy than Sonia.

Intel collects available data from the Ruling House before setting out, including some fade IFF data that might allow you to pass as an enemy convoy for a few hours at a time. It may not work but its worth a shot.

A few other ships from House Kharbos will accompany you along the way. They'll break off once behind the lines and try to make use of the chaos your fleet causes.

Roll 2d100 for the approach.

>>1378730
>bekka
We should probably be setting aside some reward money to surprise her for that recruiting, if she is bringing in solid recruits.

Are there any real strategic plays to be made in that region besides the Veritas/coalition grudge match?

I wonder if we could act as a negotiator for any prisoner exchanges there? We know folks on both sides, and might be able to save some folks we know

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Rolled 61, 41 = 102 (2d100)

>>1378808

Rolled 63, 61 = 124 (2d100)

>>1378808

Rolled 13, 25 = 38 (2d100)

>>1378808

>>1378828
>Preparing for rolls.gif
It does seem that way this thread.

Good news is you've made it into the galaxy, bad news is that you were detected on the approach and enemy units are scrambling to try and intercept you. FTL intercept attempts outside the galaxy are kept to a minimum. It looks like they don't want to take any unnecessary risks with the ships they have fast enough to catch you.

"I looks like their outer patrol was mostly made up of older ships like the Clarent and Long Range battleships."

Unless they were heavily upgraded they wouldn't stand much chance against your fleet. They're still able to keep pace with you and there is no sign of losing them soon. Even after entering the galaxy the Clarent class ships are fast enough both at sublight and FTL that its impossible to shake them.

"The ships following us are acting as a locator beacon."

"Can we jam them?" you ask.

"Yes but there are too many enemy ships nearby. Their signal might still get through to enough of them."

You'll have to start jamming at some point, it's just a question of where or when.

[ ] Remain on the move, try to leave their operation area
[ ] Try to trap pursuit
[ ] Try to lose them in a large nebula
[ ] Other

>>1378916
[ ] Try to trap pursuit

>>1378916
>[X] Try to trap pursuit
Since they're going to try their best to stay out of a fight, can we set it up so that we send our fastest ships at them to distract and corral them, then jump our slower ships in their retreat path? Are their any nav hazards or particularly thick nebula/asteroid fields that would make it easier to box them in?

>>1378916
>[ ] Try to trap pursuit

>>1378954
Parts of this sound like a good plan. I don't know about jumping the slower ships closer. I suppose so.

I'm going to have to stop. I can't think clearly. Hopefully I'll be able to run for a few hours before work tomorrow.

Roll 6d20 for fighting off pursuit quickly.

Rolled 19, 12, 9, 2, 7, 19 = 68 (6d20)

>>1378979

Rolled 3, 6, 10, 8, 7, 17 = 51 (6d20)

>>1378979
>I don't know about jumping the slower ships closer
I assumed the battleships and the Medium Cruiser were too slow to actually catch up to them and would need to microjump to get into range.

I hope your headache gets better.

Rolled 1, 20, 11, 9, 1, 12 = 54 (6d20)

>>1378979
Killing locator beacons

>>1378520
A

>>1379062
Wow I was late to the party, helps to remember to refresh the thread.

>>1378520
A shoot. I am too late. Was hoping I could get in a vote for them working on the Bombard Class. Wanted it to move one step closer to being it's own ship instead of a converted hull.

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>>1378454
>I remember a few anons wanting to build or market faster champions several times

Time to make the SRL jelly?
Y/N?

Let's give a Champion the tank destroyer treatment.

>>1380477
While the idea is funny I can't really see much support being given to a super heavy thats only usable target would be the imperial neeran cityships.

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>>1380485
I'd expect it to be effective against ships with the profile of an Ascendancy or larger. It would also be able to outgun a mobile fortress at siege cannon range. We also don't really know what actual Neeran space looks like. The FA probably has information on their fortifications, so there might be additional demand for these to take out defences.

I admit it's a pretty silly idea but even sillier suggestions have worked out in Sonia's favor.

>>1380477
I really like this image.

>>1380094
Isn't that just a light Dominion plasma on the frigate hull?
Is it really worth making that a unique hull ?

>>1380477
Space Elefant? Pls no.

>>1380636
>Is it really worth making that a unique hull ?
I'd say that it is, yes. Considering the smallest ship with a Plasma cannon before that being a Light Cruiser. The bombard class is cheaper to produce with less man power demands and it seems likely they can work in wall formation. They are also proven to work fairly well as long as they don't move unsupported.

>>1380649
until something fires a plasma ball at the formation

>>1380658
Veritas cannon ships and Republic plasma walls are still effective against Neeran units, so I'd guess it takes more than that.

"Navigators, I want our slower fleet elements to drop out closer to where our pursuit should arrive. Attack squadrons spread out enough to prevent their escape."

The fleet drops out at the next reversion point, the attack wings immediately breaking off and spreading out. Jamming craft power up enough to block sensors and communications within 5 lightyears.

Pursuing attack cruisers take a moment to catch up. When they revert to real space it's not quite where you expected but many of your ships are still within weapons range. Attack cruisers and assault corvettes soon close with them while Qlippoth and her escort disable a pair of enemies.

"Close pursuit eliminated." reports Maybourne.

Some of your attack cruisers quickly haul in a pair of the crippled Clarent class ships for capture as the fleet prepares to jump.

There are still other enemy units closing on your position but with the attack cruisers taken care of you should be able to lose them more easily. It becomes difficult for them to determine your escape route as the jamming craft increase their coverage area and split off slightly from the main fleet.

Roll 2d100

>>1380670
>Roll 2d100 for your jamming craft losing the remaining pursuit forces.

Rolled 20, 44 = 64 (2d100)

>>1380670

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Rolled 82, 22 = 104 (2d100)

>>1380670
>Roll 2d100
Yes, jam their telmex cameras!

Rolled 29, 19 = 48 (2d100)

>>1380670

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The jamming craft give the fleet enough cover to escape. It's not as effective as you would have hoped but it gets the job done. Enemy ships are able to triangulate the center of one jamming field and the ship is forced to cease operations and make a run for it. Fortunately they have powerful sublight engines and FTL so anything slower than an attack cruiser won't be able to keep up with it let alone catch it.

After a full day of running the fleet finally stops in what intel believes is an area devoid of long range sensor arrays.

How much enemy territory do you plan to fly through causing problems along the way?
The easiest way to figure this out is to determine where you want to cross into friendly territory.

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>>1380706
Something like this?

>>1380711
Towards the middle of the lines.

You could also try to cross closer to the Core or the Rim. I'll wait a little longer to see if there are any other specific suggestions before I ask for a vote.

>>1380711
Can we instead go deep into Xygen? Nasidum has that mobile fortress so I'd like to make a thing of bullying Xygen. Do like a deep loop then come in hard on the Xygen front.

>>1380719
I'm mostly worried about spending too much time in actual enemy territory without a quick way out. Trying to get closer to the core seems pretty dangerous, unless the local houses didn't invest in sensor infrastructure.

>>1380724
I really don't want to upset Xygen personally, and going for the home territory of a major house seems sucididal. Short or long term consequences, it will bite us in the ass eventually.

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We could just punch through that dip in the left contested area.

Though if we have any idea what's going on near the left rim end we could take the longer route there.

>>1380724
>Can we instead go deep into Xygen?
>>1380726
>going for the home territory of a major house seems sucididal.

You call a staff meeting and ask for opinions on attacking Xygen directly.

Has Jaihon points out that if you attack Xygen's territories they can probably shrug off the damage and cover up that the attacks ever took place. If their allies were damaged by raids the Minor Houses would be more likely to complain and ask for more support. If more Houses complain about lack of protection the rest of Xygen's allies might start to wonder about their capabilities.

"I don't think we would be able to do enough damage on our own, but on a front this large we're not likely the only ones out here."

Where are you more interested in taking the fleet?

[ ] Rimward
[ ] Middle left >>1380711
[ ] Middle right >>1380742
[ ] Coreward
[ ] Xygen

>>1380726
Is Xygen neutral or something?

If we're going to hit a major house now is the best time. We're fresh and concentrated in one force so we have maximum force multiplication.

We just got here so Xygen has yet to reposition themselves to deal with us - although they know we're SOMEWHERE.

We're extremely mobile as a group and can just do hit and runs on targets of opportunity then head back to the lines still in a group or disperse and continue hitting targets of opportunity to prevent them from being able to gather one group to smash us. With semi-random pre-planned rondevous they won't be able to risk chasing us with less than overwhelming firepower - and if they have that we're fast enough with all fleet elements to keep running.

We can have our stealth ship scout ahead for targets, or a safe escape route.

I mean we're honestly already in position.

Future raids fro friendly territory will involve crossing the front and having to either shake pursuit or fight our way in possibly plus they'll know where we're coming from so they can chase us with picket forces from the front while reinforcing in a bubble around where we might go with defense forces of reinforcements.

Quite frankly, while there's never a "Good" time to poke the bear as it were, we won't have a better time while we're here.

>>1380757
Of course I see this now.

I don't see minor houses on the map though?

Well I recant my vote if Xygen can just shrug it off. Unless we could do like a kidnapping raid on an academy or something.

I vote for hitting Xygen in the Small Worlds if you get my euphemism

>>1380767
>[x] Middle right
I'm okay with that plan.

>>1380770
I mostly want to stay off their radar. We probably managed to actually annoy the other two great houses by taking a prominent role in the loss of their drh 1/2 territories, so I want to keep Sonia herself from annoying another great House.

They're also one of two major houses with large territory in this galaxy, I'd like at least one of them stay somewhat neutral when it comes to our house and Sonia herself.

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>>1380770
>Is Xygen neutral or something?
>>1375557
>Houses Nasidum, Xygen and Bonrah form the core of the opposition.

>>1380775
>I don't see minor houses on the map though?
That is because it has proved far too complicated to do up an entire galaxy's worth of minor Houses.
The blank spaces between are filled with a HRE mishmash of minor Houses.

>Unless we could do like a kidnapping raid on an academy or something.
Now there's an idea. A second cloaked ship might be handy for such an operation, as would more Recon teams. Might be best to form up a small fleet just for that operation.

>>1380794
Well alright then. I vote for kidnapping some young nobles training somewhere.

[ ] Rimward
[ ] Middle left >>1380711
[2] Middle right >>1380742
[ ] Coreward
[ ] Xygen
[1] Xygen (Kidnapping)

10 more minutes for final votes.

>>1380794
Raid midstrength minor houses to force protection while doing the kidnapping op

>>1380801
And we are 2v2 for votes.

Anyone care to change their vote?

Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>1380817
Fuck it i'll just roll for it then.

1 for middle right
2 for Xygen(kidnapping)

>>1380827
So you're still voting for the same thing. Alright.

Looking over the available intel it seems likely that you'll be forced to rapidly withdraw from the region if you carry out the kidnapping you have in mind. This may cut short your planned raids behind the lines. It will certainly piss off House Xygen though and may result in them reassigning reserves meant for other duties.

Does this change anything for your votes?

[ ] Raid as much as you can before leaving
[ ] Carry out kidnapping, possibly cut short the raiding

>>1380846
>[x] Carry out kidnapping, possibly cut short the raiding

I like abduction missions.

>>1380846
Get out of there at the first sign of trouble.

Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>1380846
I'm late and can't decide so I'll just roll for it.

1 [ ] Raid as much as you can before leaving
2 [ ] Carry out kidnapping, possibly cut short the raiding

>>1380846
[x] Raid as much as you can before leaving

late entrance, lets grab salvage

>>1380846
[ ] Raid as much as you can before leaving

To much long term heat on our ass if we end up on a kidnapping spree.

You'll carry out as much raiding as possible before leaving via the middle right part of the lines.

Did you want the attack wings to stick to hitting as many small targets as possible, carry out wolfpack tactics, or hit larger logistics bases with the fleet? Keep in mind that in order to stay on the move you won't have as much time for salvage operations. Certainly none of the "loot the whole base" ones.

[ ] Small targets
[ ] Wolfpack
[ ] Larger logistics bases

>>1380880
[x] Wolfpack

Get in and out, if we cant raid the bases for all they got best to hit and run then I feel.

>>1380880
>[X] Wolfpack
Interdicting shipping going in and out of the area would probably do the most noticeable damage to this House's leadership, which would make them complain to Xygen more.

Oh yeah, was there any useful information on the computer cores we took from that long term POW prison?

>>1380880
>[x] Larger logistics bases

>>1380880
[ ] Wolfpack
Mixed in with an opening And closing raid on Larger logistics bases.

>>1380888
>Oh yeah, was there any useful information on the computer cores we took from that long term POW prison?
Some of it is still being decrypted. Most is focused on individual prisoners, how they've been responding to interrogation, etc. Some data is believed to be on prisoners who have already been released, though their identities of those who left are difficult to confirm. Intel is trying to locate these individuals in the hopes of preventing or limiting infiltration.

Roll 4d100 for Wolfpack and 2d20 for backup.

Rolled 63, 25, 6, 33 = 127 (4d100)

>>1380910
Rolling dem bones.

>>1380880
>small targets

Rolled 93, 1, 88, 41 = 223 (4d100)

>>1380910
Hardcore Wolfpack action.

Rolled 65, 56, 35, 86 = 242 (4d100)

>>1380910
D100s

Rolled 4, 8 = 12 (2d20)

>>1380910
>>1380917
That could have gone better.

Backup.

Rolled 67, 52, 78, 95 = 292 (4d100)

>>1380910
oh boy rolling.

Rolled 30, 62, 12, 24 = 128 (4d100)

>>1380910

rolling salvage

Rolled 3, 16 = 19 (2d20)

>>1380918
>>1380910
D20s

Rolled 17, 1 = 18 (2d20)

>>1380910

Rolled 9, 11 = 20 (2d20)

>>1380910
>>1380914
Could be better.

Rolled 19, 16 = 35 (2d20)

>>1380910
and final part

>>1380910
93,56 (1?),88,86

17,16 (1?)

Actually may have turned out pretty well.

Moving up through enemy territory the attack units begin to split off from the fleet. Rally points and fallback positions are marked out ahead of time and contingencies prepared for loss of communications.

"Don't form up into units large enough to attract attention if you can help it."

You spend a lof of long hours over the next few days waiting for calls for help. Small units rotate back off of raiding to refuel or repair, sometimes less than a squadron at a time. In most cases a few ships will track down a small outpost or lone freighter and cripple it. In others they'll find a good target and call in additional squadrons to strike at it.

Pilots from the attack cruiser units manage to capture a few largely intact ships here and there, continuing to make up for the losses they suffered a few weeks ago.

Assault corvettes are having a harder time with longer deployments away from the fleet. The high upkeep and low crew numbers are making it difficult to keep up with field repairs. They're still performing adequately. One problem is that whenever enemy ship crews see the assault corvettes they soon panic and call for reinforcements.
You're forced to move to assist a few times because of enemy overreaction and large forces being called in to deal with them.

"We may want to start holding back the assault corvettes air." Suggests Lyas. Using them for stronger targets or as bait to catch reaction forces might be better. If we keep using them for longer raiding actions we'll have to increase their crew size to compensate."

>What say?

I'm headed out for work. Will try to post when I get back after 9PM EST.

>>1381006
figured we'd start running into this.
cut our active roster of assault corvettes into three shifts. One is raiding, one is acting as escort and one is undergoing more serious maintenance.
Might want to spread the active corvettes more thinly to not spook targets.

>>1381006
Great idea. We could also field dedicated units of older ships to act as bait.

>>1381006

Have the wing commanders see if their corrvette pilots are okay with increasing their crew. Or do as this >>1381029 anon suggested. We dont have an unlimited supply of crewmen, which is kinda odd to think about in a space based rpg.

>>1381206
>We dont have an unlimited supply of crewmen, which is kinda odd to think about in a space based rpg.
I think that's mostly a J-D problem because they currently have the population of a larger minor house with the military and industrial base of a middle house. And that already includes large populations we can't get the regular number of recruits from like refugees, semi-independent places like Avoubic, and actual independent places like Tourta etc.

If Jerik-Dremine hadn't been on the brink of collapse for several decades, we'd probably have to worry a lot less about replacements. Although our habit of keeping crews alive has worked pretty well for us so far.

>>1381378
>If Jerik-Dremine hadn't been on the brink of collapse for several decades, we'd probably have to worry a lot less about replacements. Although our habit of keeping crews alive has worked pretty well for us so far.
Sonia's come a long way, hasn't she? I remember the first thread if this, and I wasn't sure if it would be a one thread wonder; look at it now, the longest running quest on 4chan. And also the best in regards to spesships and spreadsheets.

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>>1381650
>spesships and spreadsheets
>forgetting surveys

>>1381006
Can we rig up a small scale jamming craft?

The Assault Corvette fleet could act as a sneaky reserve force shadowing main fleet elements and hidden under jamming. The Attack Cruisers could get into the battles and then the Corvettes come in like a hammer.

>>1381708
>Can we rig up a small scale jamming craft?
The ECM systems on many EC-K's can be rigged for jamming, though they're not as good as a dedicated ship.
There are jamming modules available that can be fitted to most ships, including assault corvettes.
The Kharbos assault corvette can be fitted as a dedicated ECM or jamming platform with one of its A/CRV to frigate upgrades. At the moment this has a substantial impact on its maneuverability that they haven't come up with a solution for.

>>1381206
>Have the wing commanders see if their corvette pilots are okay with increasing their crew.
One problem is that crew sizes have been shrinking to match the number of emergency teleport capsules a starship can carry.
The latest assault corvettes only carry 5 capsules. 3 are small single occupant ones for the Pilot, navigator/gunner and ops/flight engineer. The other two are 10 man crew capsules.

To keep them operational in the field away from their carriers for extended periods you need a crew of 40. Even with the new internal repair drones.
Are repair drones on the wiki? I need to add them if not.

Most of your pilots would prefer to not run the risk of getting more people killed if their ships blow up. Then again, maybe the added responsibility of lives on the line would be good for a few of the younger up and coming officers.

>We dont have an unlimited supply of crewmen
Not if your attack cruisers keep getting blown up you wont. For now there are enough reserve personnel aboard Qlippoth you can increase the crews of the corvettes without problems. It was anticipated spares would be needed both for losses and to man captured warships.

>>1381079
That is an option. The enemy seems to be overreacting to the assault corvettes because most Houses only assign them to their most elite units. Your House has tons of high end ships and thus assigns them differently.

[ ] Reduce active A/CRV deployment >>1381029
[ ] Reserve for key battles / Use them as bait
[ ] Reserve for key battles / Use older ships as bait
[ ] Increase crew to max teleport capacity
[ ] Increase crew to needed number / test pilots responsibility

>>1381940
>[X] Reduce active A/CRV deployment
New R&D topic: increase Assault Corvette emergency teleporter capacity.
Should get started some time around 2020.

>>1381940
[ ] Reduce active A/CRV deployment >>1381029

However, I am of the opinion that we should have been testing the pilots responsibilities before. So if we haven't no better time then now, of course since we don't really NEED to over man the Corvettes. Maybe see if there are any crewmen that want to volunteer to be part of a Corvettes crew?

>>1381968
If anything capacity will probably decrease to reduce construction costs.

>>1381978
>I am of the opinion that we should have been testing the pilots responsibilities before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CpUmOVRfYk

Looks like we're reducing their deployment for now.

Wolfpack tactics seem to have been effective in causing problems for the enemy while reducing the risk of your entire fleet being targeted. Did you want to keep it up or try to go after larger targets?

>>1382117
Let's go slam some big shit.

>>1381968
How long's it been and we're only unlocking the secrets of the Freeze Ray now?

>>1382117
I still think messing with trade like this is the best way to get the minor Houses to complain since we're essentially taking money right out of their pocket.

>>1382117

Sure lets bash some slightly bigger enemies. Though lets continue to bully these small houses when we get the chance.

>>1382117

Wolfpack raiding. Hiding our numbers tends to lure out a nice little force to ambush and crush.

>>1382175
I'll change my vote to "larger targets" if no one else breaks tie

>>1382117
Wolfpack

Arron has been scouting ahead and located 3 targets that might be good to go after. They're too widely spaced to hit simultaniously and would require the fleet to double back if you wanted to deal with them one after the other.

First is a very expensive looking He3 fuel refinery that supplies Xygen fleet assets on their way to the front. It's fairly out of the way, with tankers delivering fuel to a nearby trade lane.

Second is an Aries built shipyard constructing assault corvettes. Somewhat under defended for its output.

Third is an industrial and manufacturing station in orbit above the capital of a small House. At certain times of the day there is a gap in the local system patrol formation that would allow a quick strike at it.

Did you want to conduct wolfpack style raiding then converge on one of the targets? If so which one?

>>1382373

I hate Aries, lets go fuck them up and steal some data on their new Corvettes.

>>1382373
Oh man both 2 and 3 look so appetizing.
Do we know what assault corvette Aries is making?

>>1382444
>Do we know what assault corvette Aries is making?

http://houseanddominion.wikia.com/wiki/Hades_class

>>1382373
2
Time to bully Aries again.

>>1382373
I'll go ahead and vote 2, but is Helium 3 flammable? Before it's turned into fuel, that is. And would detonating the facility be a war crime or our patented Not Technically a War Crime?

>>1382373

I kind of want to wreck the station above the capital of the small House, but I wonder if that will bring too much heat.

Voting for the Aries built shipyard, as I both loathe Aries and see a chance to secure some stuff for our own assault corvette forces (intact ships, or just the parts we can't easily obtain like burst torp launchers and heavy pulse cannons?), and potentially some equipment/material filled transports.

Or even blast a shipment of crews on their way to the ships!

>>1382373
[x] Shipyard

>>1382468
>but is Helium 3 flammable? Before it's turned into fuel, that is.
Flammable? Not to my understanding no. Before its refined? It depends if there's hydrogen and an oxidizer present, of which the latter is usually no.

Nuclear fusion is much more fun than simple flame. Especially if somebody fires a nuke into a fuel tank.

Let's get some rolls for taking out this shipyard.
Roll 7d20

Rolled 9, 4, 6, 6, 1, 17, 9 = 52 (7d20)

>>1382529
So it would technically be flammable, just with nuclear hellfire as opposed to wholesome, regular fire.

>>1382558

Rolled 2, 1, 17, 19, 10, 5, 5 = 59 (7d20)

>>1382558
I'm ready for this shipyard ham-slam situation.

Rolled 1, 19, 3, 19, 20, 20, 1 = 83 (7d20)

>>1382558

lets get to raiding

Rolled 14, 1, 13, 14, 2, 9, 11 = 64 (7d20)

>>1382558

Painting it black?

9, 19, 17, 19, 20, 20, 9

I wonder if Sonia will ever get experienced enough to eventually get Best of 4 sets.

>>1382569

okay entrance great raid sloppy exit.
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>>1382586

stupid...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXWmgX-V02k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVZxwW-U-zc

Some of the wing commanders elect to continue some minor raiding then meet up at the target destination.

The fleet jumps in on the shipyard from multiple directions quickly overwhelming the meager garrison forces. Your assault corvettes tear into the locals backed up by supporting fire from the other attack wings.

Station defenses concentrate their fire on the attack cruiser forces and Qlippoth, trying to keep them at bay. Housings on the station retract to reveal a pair of heavy torpedo batteries which open fire on your carrier. Point defense focuses much of their fire on the conventional torpedo barrage missing a few SP Torps which crater the armor. Fortunately Qlippoth is a tough ship and shrugs off the hits without any serious damage.

The Outer Heaven and Fast Battleships close with the station and quickly slag the enemy batteries before they can do more damage. Plasma cannon fire rakes the station's main structure setting off a few secondary explosions here and there.
You're tempted to simply lay waste to the facility with the lightning guns but that wouldn't do much for your salvage haul.

A few corvettes fitted with afterburners try to get clear of the fighting to jump but are quickly shot down. It doesn't take long for the remainder to go down in flames or surrender.

Roll 1d100 for new tech recovery.

Stopping here for this week. I don't know what day I'll be resuming.

Rolled 9 (1d100)

>>1382708

Salvage!

>>1382712
Thanks for running TSTG

Rolled 33 (1d100)

>>1382708
>>1382712
Thanks for running.

Rolled 23 (1d100)

>>1382708
Steal all the best Aries shit.

On a scale of Real Life to EVE, how would you rate House and Dominion's manufacturing capabilities?

>>1382712
Thanks for running
>>1382716
>>1382722
>>1382728
Didn't find jack boss.

>>1382786

https://youtu.be/g3iFJpGJiug

>>1382712
Thanks for another fun thread.

when was the Z10 Avenger proposed in game?

>>1382585
If the FA/Terrans ever get that AI assisted command interface working and allow Sonia to get her hands on it.

>>1382786
At least we got dubs, that's got to be worth something.

Looks like game will resume on Monday.

>>1383582
Starsector update will carry me through the weekend while I wait for H&D

>>1384786
>Starsector update
Wait what its out?

>>1385363
0.8 update is.
http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=11477.0

Lots of changes, especially to fleet carriers

>>1381006
I really like this post.

>>1385556
salvage!? shutupandtakemymoney.

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>>1378393
>The Sledge would be the easiest and benefit the most from that... but then there's the whole thing with pirates.
I'm Going To Build My Own Sledge With Armor and Plasma Cannons!

>>1378326
>>1375557
I've had a bit of free time and decided to redesign the ship. It now features popular Dro'all design elements such as:
-It's a brick!
-It's cheap to build!
-It's fast to build!
-It can ram inferior Terran ships in half confirmation pending ship may not remain functional or in one piece
-It's more or less a design stolen from somebody else.
-Its equipment is in part stolen from somebody else.
-It can use existing parts and equipment.
-It doesn't directly compete with any existing designs other houses are trying to sell.
-People can sell third party addons for it.
-One version looks like the Somtaaw destroyer.
-The armored version kinda looks like a trilobite.

(No idea if these loadouts are possible, I just put some stuff on there I thought looked appropriate)
(The Gunship's there for scale and because I reused some of the turrets.)

>>1387212
I don't think many houses would spring for a resource draining weapon like torpedo batteries. That's a lot of torpedoes that need to be supplied.
I'd prefer something less resource intensive like a spinal mass driver or phase array.

>>1387227
I put it there because it's something largely unique to J-D and not another slot filled with plasma cannons. Using several light plasma cannons, or multiple heavy spinal phase instead shouldn't be a problem.

>>1387212
>>1387256

I feel like making a "cheap" anything designed to mount multiple plasma cannons and torpedo batteries is akin to buying an expensive item and then moving it on a rickety trailer/truck/richshaw

>>1387564
Cheap in this context means easy to manufacture and maintain:
Proven and long life parts that are already in widespread mass production
Minimized frills such as automation or moving parts
No finicky tech such as lightning guns
Of course the add-on idea probably raises its price in terms of complexity to construct but otherwise a cheapish medium for minor houses isn't a terrible idea.

>>1387604

Cutting costs and long life are usually inversely related, as you're usually removing something like extra bulkheads or secondary systems, or even reducing the time your inspectors have for a given inspection. Most of the cost sunk into ships seems to be the materials used to build them, especially at higher level yards.

I think you're viewing this the wrong way, though. A cheap, manpower intensive design is best suited for major Houses, who benefit from larger populations and saving relatively small amounts repeatedly.

A smaller House that can only afford a single or handful of mediums is likely looking for a long term investment that is partly prestige for their home fleet, or could be hurting for manpower. How would we have reacted if that Aries Heavy was some budget Cargo Frame Heavy?
We would have laughed the crew to death and captured it.