>>1318271
So Hype! Let's Pokemon this shit!

>>1318271
Gob Gob Gob!

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>>1318271
Awwwwww yeah! Time for Pokemans!

Aw yea! Lets do this

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>>1318271

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You finish off your coffee and stretch.

The girls managed to get Keira out of the uniform, but Keira being Keira, she just slipped out of it on the spot. You think you’d get used to seeing her like that by now, but every time is a shock.

Gobble finishes his cup of hot cocoa. Valerie has lots of that and other “modest camping supplies” on the ship that she’s eager to share. Especially since the others aren’t as familiar with it as you sometimes. You think it gives her a good topic to talk about with Keira especially.

Well, you should get to work. You want to do well tonight in your gym challenge with Polu.

First thing’s first. You boot up that new TM of yours and check it out. Natural Gift. You look up the entry for it and can’t believe you’ve never heard of this move before. That seems right up your alley.

It’s power and effect changes depending on the type of berry used. Since you have that bushel of berries from when you went picking before, and Gobble has Recycle, it’s a no brainer to use it on him. Then Bella and Dice. Mace can’t learn it, though.

He puts on a brave face. Or rather, a brave posture, but you can tell it bugs him a little.

“It’s okay, Mace. We’ll do something extra special.”

Uh oh. You look like you’ve embarrassed him a little.

Now, time is short. If you want to get everyone ready, you’ll need to equip them with an item and do some last minute training quickly. What are you going to do with Mace?

>Work on Gravity. Make sure he has it down pat
>Train on energy control. That’s special
>Help boost up a stat. You can never get too fit
>Something else

>>1318327
>>Train on energy control. That’s special

>>1318327
>>Train on energy control. That’s special

>>1318327
>>Train on energy control. That’s special

>>1318327
>Train on energy control. That’s special
We don't want a repeat of last time.

>>1318327
>Train on energy control. That’s special

>>1318327
>Work on Gravity. Make sure he has it down pat
We should really have a move. Also I know for a fact we already trained energy control at the temple.

>>1318327
>Train on energy control. That’s special
We'll work on Gravity next time.

>>1318327
>Train on energy control. That’s special

>>1318327
>Train on energy control. That’s special

>>1318327
>Train on energy control. That’s special
Sometimes I feel like I don't need to vote. But if I wait until I need to I'll be accused of being a samefag.

>>1318327
>Train on energy control. That’s special

Time to see what the monk taught Mace.

>>1318327
>Train on energy control. That’s special

>>1318327
>>Train on energy control. That’s special

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“Let’s work on energy control.”

He has a look like he assumes you think he might screw it up again, but after a second he changes and gives a nod. He says that’s a good idea.

You were hoping the other training you had before would have gotten him over that sore spot. He seems a lot better now, at least, but you suspect he could use just a little bit more of a confidence boost.

You go outside and run him through some training. You find that he hesitates a bit when over water, so you really encourage him to try it out. Over the shallow part of the beach of course. He does really well, too. He seems to have it down when there’s no dodging or other tasks needed, but you think he’ll need more practice to multitask well. It’s not that he can’t attack while in the air, it’s just that it throws him off a lot.

It also doesn’t last forever. He can’t stay up for too long. He’s getting better, though. And faster. He does one last sweep down, gets his feet wet as he skims along the bottom, then comes to a skidding, twirling, semi-controlled stop on the sand.

“Good job, Mace!” You high five him. He’s not as enthusiastic about those as the others, but when he’s worked up like this, even he responds. You’re just glad he’s happy, though.

Dice is swimming in the water and pops his head up, right on cue.

“I guess you’re next, Dice.”

He cocks his head to the side.

>Work out any potential kinks in Aqua Tail
>Do some preliminary training on Dragon Claw
>He might be good at Mimic
>Train up on a stat
>Practice his unique movement skills. Make him unpredictable

>>1318445
>>Work out any potential kinks in Aqua Tail

Lets get this move down, then implement it with his drunken croc style

>>1318445
>He might be good at Mimic
>Practice his unique movement skills. Make him unpredictable

>>1318445
>Work out any potential kinks in Aqua Tail
Don't want a move without perfect accuracy to not be down pat

>>1318445
>>Work out any potential kinks in Aqua Tail
>Practice his unique movement skills. Make him unpredictable

>>1318445
>Work out any potential kinks in Aqua Tail

>>1318445
>Work out any potential kinks in Aqua Tail

>>1318445
>Work out any potential kinks in Aqua Tail

>>1318445
>Work out any potential kinks in Aqua Tail

>>1318445
>Work out any potential kinks in Aqua Tail
Let's get this move down

>>1318445
>Work out any potential kinks in Aqua Tail

>>1318457
Once we get Aqua Tail down, i wouldnt be against this as a combo.

>>1318445
>>Work out any potential kinks in Aqua Tail

>>1318445
>Work out any potential kinks in Aqua Tail

>>1318445
>Practice his unique movement skills. Make him unpredictable

>>1318476
Like, copy the opponent until they're the one copying you, then spaz out so they fall over?

>>1318445
>Practice his unique movement skills. Make him unpredictable

>>1318528
More of keep the opponent off balance with his movement, their attack misses and then we hit them with their own attack

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You figure it’s best to make sure he really knows Aqua Tail.

“Alright, Dice, let’s keep up that practice!”

He looks around for a target, then leaps into action. It’s only when he’s in midair that you realize he’s going to bring his tail down on that stack of bamboo you left out here last night. Luckily, or unluckily, he misses.

“Well, that’s why we practice. I’ve burnt more than a few recipes I’ve tried on the first attempt.” You hope nobody overheard that. You’re not that far from the boat.

After a bit of practice, he gets it. He likes to do a fullbody spin and attack twice sometimes, using his momentum to keep himself going.

“Well done, Dice.” You scratch his head. He gently nibbles your hand before you can really get in there, though.

Bella climbs up your back and covers your eyes.

“Okay, okay!” You laugh. “You’re next.”

She drops down in front of you, like she’s expecting something else.

“And you look very pretty today.”

She beams and twirls.

>Start learning Sword’s Dance; open up a lot of possibilities
>Practice getting every last bit out of draining moves some more
>For some reason, you think she’d learn Attract quickly
>Get Poison Jab 100 down
>Work on a stat
>Something else

>>1318540
>>Start learning Sword’s Dance; open up a lot of possibilities

>>1318540
>For some reason, you think she’d learn Attract quickly

>>1318540
>Start learning Sword’s Dance; open up a lot of possibilities

>Poison Jab 100 down
Missing a % there I think Gobble.

>>1318540
>>Start learning Sword’s Dance; open up a lot of possibilities
She should learn the art of Swashbuckling

>>1318540
>For some reason, you think she’d learn Attract quickly
Please no mixed attacking

>>1318540
>Get Poison Jab 100 down
You missed a "%" there Gobble.

Also, poison jab will definitely be a staple move for Bella, since it's just a high power STAB poison move, so using it well should be a priority.

>>1318540
>For some reason, you think she’d learn Attract quickly
She has been learning from Laki to be more domineering...it would be pretty good with our current training focus for her

Gobble - If she can learn this 'quickly' would we be able to get one of these down as well?

>Practice getting every last bit out of draining moves some more
>Get Poison Jab 100 down

>>1318540
Changing >>1318549
to support >>1318560

>>1318540
>For some reason, you think she’d learn Attract quickly
With this, poison and draining moves she'll be a total bitch to fight.

>>1318540
>>For some reason, you think she’d learn Attract quickly

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>>1318563
Our baby girl is growing up

>>1318600
>Bella Laki
>Blaki
Wait, that sounds wrong.

>>1318610
Thats why i separated the names, unless you like Lakidonna or Ladonna

>>1318540
>>Start learning Sword’s Dance; open up a lot of possibilities

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“Let’s learn Attract!”

Bella likes that idea. She immediately turns her gaze to Mace, who looks very alarmed. He quickly rockets off. It’s much more controlled this time and he lands safely within view.

Before long, Bella is leading Dice around by the chin, drunk on her own power. You worry that you’ve created a monster here.

“We’re ahead of schedule. How about some Poison Jab pract-”

“Stop feeding Keira popsicles and let’s go.” Laki yells back at Hana. She’s about to yell back sometime else, but her Meowth climbs up her back to chase off her Chatot and she ends up having to sort that out instead.

“Where are you guys going?” You ask.

“Valerie needs some new costume materials.” Laki holds Meowth by the scruff, making sure it’s calmed down before letting it go.

“Outfits!” Valerie corrects, running to catch up to Laki. “Not costumes.”

“Whatever, as long as I get to help you put them on.”

“Laki!” Valerie acts more offended than you suspect she is. “Don’t talk like that.”

“I don’t mind.” Hana mutters.

The three girls leave. You wave as they head out. You see Keira watching from the boat and wave to her too, but stop when you notice Mr. Schwibbles standing in the window next to her. There’s something about his smile.

Bella runs around with poison tips on her flower-ends, stabbing at the air. You’ll let her do that while you work with Gobble.

“How are you feeling, Gobble?”

He takes a second to respond, and all you get is his wide open eyes suddenly locking on you.

“You drank the coffee, huh?”

He nods.

A little training should clear that off.

>Work on a stat
>You think Screech could get done before long
>Make sure Body Slam is entirely learned
>Start on Flamethrower. Who’d see that coming?
>Something else

>>1318643
>Start on Flamethrower. Who’d see that coming?
If we fed Gobble some spicy food before a battle would that up the damage of Flamethrower?

>>1318643
>You think Screech could get done before long

I really want to work on missable moves. Plus, as a bulkier mon, Gobbs should have time to set up on fools.

>>1318643
>Start on Flamethrower. Who’d see that coming?
I wait for the day Gobble can headbutt a tree and roast the nuts as they fall into his mouth.

>>1318643
>You think Screech could get done before long

>>1318643
>Start on Flamethrower. Who’d see that coming?
UTILITY.

Also the image of giving Gobble a belly rub while he spits flames onto a pot is pretty great.

Wait, if we can do other moves then why not go for Earthquake?

>>1318643
>Start on Flamethrower. Who’d see that coming?

>>1318643
>Make sure Body Slam is entirely learned

>>1318643
>Make sure Body Slam is entirely learned
>Start on Flamethrower. Who’d see that coming?
>Gobble helps us cook more.

>>1318643
>“Stop feeding Keira popsicles and let’s go.” Laki yells back at Hana.
Oh Hana, our lovely lewd lady, never change.
>Make sure Body Slam is entirely learned
then
>Start on Flamethrower. Who’d see that coming?

>>1318694
I'm liking that Truth or Dare has seemed to awoken every girls lewdness

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>>1318643
>Make sure Body Slam is entirely learned
Ignore my other votes, I'm stupid.

>>1318643
>>1318670
If we need a tiebreaker I'll change my vote to
>Make sure Body Slam is entirely learned

Gobble so is there something like the elite 4 in this region?

My god I can actually participate in one of these quests for once?

>>1318763
no because
gobble is kill

>>1318768
We can revive Gobble, everyone needs to post butts, their power will give Gobble life

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>>1318790
The finest.

>>1318643
>Make sure Body Slam is entirely learned

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>>1318800
I shall supply my only butt to the Spir-butt Bomb

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“Gobble, you like hot food, right?”

He leaps up. You didn’t mean to mislead him, but he’s expecting something warm.

“Oh, sorry. No, I don’t have anything, but I thought maybe we should work on Flamethrower. Then you can heat things up.”

He likes that idea a lot. The two of you get to work. You try a lot, like feeding him spicy food, listening to Keira teach you about the inner fire that the Fire Priests talk about, and drinking more (very) hot cocoa. At the end, you’re rewarded with a hot puff, and the small, barely visible flame during a burp. It’s progress, for the little time you have and rushing through it.

“Herb, you ready, bro?” Polu runs over. He’s been training this whole time, too.

You look over your team. “Yeah, I think so.”

He smacks you on the back, hard. “Come on, my man. Say it with pride.”

“I-I think so!” You shout.

He pats you on the back a little softer this time. “Good enough. Come on. There’s a pokemon center near the gym. We should get going now before the sun sets.”

You, Polu, and Kiera head off.

“How are you feeling about Body Slam?” You ask him while walking behind.

Gobble thinks. He seems like he knows it, but he’s not confident enough to give you an enthusiastic answer.

“You can try it while we walk.” You encourage. He does so, slamming down on random things on the way. After awhile, he gets hungry and gives it a break. You give him the last of the loaf of bread to tide him over.

You arrive at the pokemon center and get everyone healed up. From the outside, you never would have guessed this place was a pokemon center at all. None of the machines match, either, like they were collected from all sorts of different regions.

Polu comes up while you’re waiting. “So, I know a little, but not much. There’s a trial before we can battle. Not sure what’s involved there. The battle should be doubles, but I heard there’s some sort of twist there too.”

You glance up at the clock. Your pokemon should be ready soon. You guess you should do a little more to prepare and think of who is getting what item.

What will you give Gobble?

>Silk Scarf
>Sitrus Berry, for recovering health
>A Pecha Berry, for curing Poison
>Safety Goggles, good for keeping dust, hail, and powder out of his eyes
>Something else

>>1318809
>Silk Scarf

Let's get normal!

>>1318809
>A Pecha Berry, for curing Poison

While this is the smartest choice, pretty sure we should be on guard for other status effects

>>1318809
>A Pecha Berry, for curing Poison
It is a poison type gym right?

>>1318809
>>A Pecha Berry, for curing Poison

>>1318809
>Safety Goggles, good for keeping dust, hail, and powder out of his eyes
Just like Herb

>The battle should be doubles, but I heard there’s some sort of twist there too.
It's going to be 2 gym leaders and Herb and Polu'll be split up and battle against each other while they're backed up by one of the leaders each.

>>1318809
>Sitrus Berry, for recovering health
Healing and Psychic type natural gift.

>>1318809
>Safety Goggles, good for keeping dust, hail, and powder out of his eyes
This is probably the least strategically sound idea, but damned if it woyldnt be the most adorable.

>>1318809
>A Pecha Berry, for curing Poison

>>1318809
>>Sitrus Berry, for recovering health
Gobble has the health to tank poison for a while, and Pecha will only work once to cure it. Tackle and Body Slam are the only moves he has that the scarf will help with. Sitrus gives him sort-of-Recover with Recycle to make him even tankier, and even better, Psychic Natural Gift for the super-effective.

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>>1318809
>>Silk Scarf
Justice Scarf

>>1318833
I believe poison does % health damage, and he has recycle to get the berry back.

>>1318809
>Sitrus Berry, for recovering health

>>1318836
Yeah, I realized that as I reread the post. I even mentioned Recycle myself. derp.

Even so, recovery plus Psychic Natural Gift.is probably the better option. Unless the gym leader likes to use Toxic and/or Venoshock. Which he now totally will.

>>1318843
Well we can give the Sitrus to Dice still since he also has Natural Gift.

>>1318809
>Sitrus Berry, for recovering health

Honestly either berry sounds good, but I think I'm liking Sitrus better right now for Gobble.

Well since we're passing out gear, what about the others?

Googles for Bella (Mace lacks eyes and someone mentioned giving the other berry to Dice)

>>1318809
>A Pecha Berry, for curing Poison
> Hug. He's a good boy.

>>1318809
>Pecha berry, for curing poison

>>1318809
>A Pecha Berry, for curing Poison

>>1318809
>Sitrus Berry, for recovering health
I'm late I know, just my 2cents.

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You give Gobble a Pecha Berry. “Keep that safe for the match, okay?”

He stuffs it in his fur after wiping away some slobber. That looked like it took some effort. You give him a quick hug, then look to see what Keira is up to.

Keira is looking around at the various items being sold at from the merchant outside the pokemon center. They have the items laid out on a bundle. She picks up a ring.

“What’s this?”

“Wedding rings. Mainlanders use them to show they are married, young Priestess.” The merchant tips their head in respect.

“Can I borrow it for a second?”

“I-”

Keira is already sneaking around behind Polu, then places it on his finger when he’s not looking. She then slithers up to you and puts it on, the snickers. “Polu and Herb are married now!”

Polu gives an uncharacteristically quiet, awkward laugh.

The smile on Keira’s face vanishes when she sees the two large men come up behind her, followed by the merchant.

“Young priestess. I don’t believe you should demean yourself by being in such a place.” The merchant tells her, while holding out his hand.

You and Polu take them off and give them to him.

“Maybe a lesson is in order.” One of the huge men says to the merchant.

But their attitude changes when Polu makes a gesture. You didn’t catch what it was, other than seeing him move out of the corner of your eye.

“Only kidding, Young Priestess. Please, enjoy the rest of the day.” He bows and leaves.

“Heh. That’s Take for you, right?” Polu puts an arm around the both of you. Keira had a question but vanishes under the realization that he’s touching her without a worry. “Herb, what item are you going to give Bella, there?”

Oh right. Bella!

>Safety Goggles, she’ll look slick
>A Sitrus Berry
>A Silk Scarf, to help Cut
>A Occa Berry. Those mitigate super effective fire moves
>Something else

>>1318916
>>A Sitrus Berry

>>1318916
>A Occa Berry. Those mitigate super effective fire moves
Also can turn into fire type Natural Gift!

>>1318916
>>A Occa Berry. Those mitigate super effective fire moves

>>1318916
>A Occa Berry. Those mitigate
Save Sitrus for Dice

>>1318916
>A Occa Berry. Those mitigate super effective fire moves

>>1318916
>>A Occa Berry. Those mitigate super effective fire moves

>>1318916
>A Occa Berry. Those mitigate super effective fire moves

>>1318916
>Safety Goggles, she'll look slick

>>1318916
>A Sitrus Berry
Make a note to question Polu in private later

>>1318916
>Something else
>Take Polu aside and ask him what that was all about.

>>1318932
>>1318949
Could get behind that, also. Probably smart.

>>1318916
>A Occa Berry. Those mitigate super effective fire moves
I love how Polu knows all the secret handshakes that don't officially exist.

>>1318949
+1 to this.

Don't be conspicuous, but find a time to ask him about it.

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You want to ask Polu about what just happened, but there’s no good way to take him aside right now. You’ll go for it when you get a chance though.

“Here, Bella.” You give her the Occa berry. “This will keep you safe against a fire attack.” You pat her head.

Bella holds the berry you gifted her. She looks more honored and touched by it than you think the situation warrants. She reaches at you, showing she wants you to pick her up.

“Upsy daisy.” You lift her. She responds with a bunch of cute noises.

“She says she has the best papa ever.” Keira tells you.

You give Bella and extra little hug, then prop her up on your shoulder. “Your turn, Dice.”

Dice is sitting there, not really doing much of anything. Keira lifts him up for you.

What are you going to give him?

>Never Melt Ice could be handy for Ice Fang
>Sitrus Berry
>Safety Goggles
>Pecha Berry
>Silk Scarf and Rage could be a great combo
>Something else

>>1318983
>Sitrus Berry
Heal or a nice Psychic attack

>>1318983
>Never Melt Ice could be handy for Ice Fang
Ice Fang would be pretty good if the gym leader has croagunk/toxicroak.

>>1318983
>Safety Goggles

He's a pretty good wild card, and we want to make sure he can't be easily locked down.

>>1318983
>Safety Goggles
Will support
>Never Melt Ice could be handy for Ice Fang

>>1318983
>Sitrus Berry
>Something else
Remind Bella that she has to eat the berry when she sees the fire attack coming, it's not just a protective charm. She's still a kid, she might not know that.

>>1318983
>>Silk Scarf and Rage could be a great combo
He'll look bitchin'

>>1318989
That doesn't do anything at all against those Pokemon.

>>1318983
>>Safety Goggles

>>1318983
>Safety Goggles
Either this or Sitrus Berries are a good choice.

>>1318983
>Sitrus Berry

>>1318983
>Sitrus Berry
Isn't this an ice gym? Never melt ice won't be that helpful

>>1319008
Poison, that is why Sitrus is good for Psychic typed Natural Gift.

>>1319008
poison

>>1318983
>“She says she has the best papa ever.”
MY HEART

>Sitrus Berry

>>1318983
>Sitrus Berry

>>1319011
That's a good point I hadn't even considered.

>>1319032
That was why I voted for it for Gobble, but Pecha is probably a good idea for him. Makes him close enough to immune for poison and there are a fair number of Water / Poison types that we could use it offensively still with the Electric Natural Gift.

Wait, why didn't we give Bella black sludge? Didn't we buy that?

>>1319053
Oh right. Gobble pls.

>>1319053
Thats true. I remember that as well but its not in the info bin

>>1319053
Sssh, Dual Wielding

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>>1319053
>>1319058
[My bad.

To be safe, let's do a quick check.

>Black Sludge
>Occa Berry
]

>>1319053
...damn. Unfortunately she can't use Trick, Switcheroo or Bestow so there's no way to get it on the opponent, but even just as Leftovers it's still good stuff.

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>>1319078
>Black Sludge

>>1319080
Well this is a Poison gym so that wouldn't be a great plan for now.

>>1319078
>>Black Sludge

>>1319078
>Black Sludge

>>1319078
>Black Sludge

>>1319078
>Occa Berry

I dont think Black Sludge will be as beneficial this gym battle

>>1319078
>Black Sludge

>>1319078
>>Occa Berry
Her reaction was so cute! I can't take it from her!

>>1319104
This is a good point. Changing my vote. Besides, Herb wouldn't suspect that the weird goo would have that kind of use, right? He'd focus on more obviously edible stuff.

>>1319078
>Black Sludge

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“I’ll give you a Sitrus Berry, okay?”

Dice takes the berry in his mouth. You’re worried for a second that he didn’t understand, but he doesn’t bite down. He just stores it, keeping it for later.

“You’re not giving Bella that Black Sludge you got before, bro? It’s supposed to heal poison types like her. Could be really handy.”

Huh. Polu brings up a good point. You set Bella down. “Wait, Bella, he’s right. Can I have that berry back?”

She looks up, a little worry, and a lot of wonder on her face. She gives it over.

“Take this instead.” You pour the vial of black sludge into her hands. “That’s supposed to help heal you.” You look up to Polu and he confirms with a nod. “How does it feel?”

She plays with it and rolls it over her body. She perks up.

“And the best part is, you don’t have to do anything.” Polu adds,

“Just watch out for any moves that take it away, okay?” You pet her.

Bella nods her understanding. She looks really eager to show you that she can handle the responsibility.

You, Polu, and Keira are heading off to the gym now. You still don’t get a chance to take Polu aside that wouldn’t look weird to Keira. But you can worry about that later, you need to think up an item for Mace, who is dutifully taking the lead on your march.

>Keep that Rawst berry for curing burns, just in case.
>Silk Scarf. He’d look so dashing
>The stone from your brother, for luck
>Something else

>>1319139
>Silk Scarf. He’d look so dashing
Headbutt + basically a cape at his size

>>1319139
>The stone from your brother, for luck

This is a very Herb response.

>>1319139
>The stone from your brother, for luck

>>1319139
>The stone from your brother, for luck

>>1319139
>The stone from your brother, for luck

>>1319139
>>The stone from your brother, for luck

>>1319139
>Silk Scarf. He’d look so dashing
He does have tackle and headbutt

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>>1319139
>>The stone from your brother, for luck

>>1319139
>>The stone from your brother, for luck
>>1319143
Agreed. And it might just turn out to be a Hard Stone.

>>1319139
>The stone from your brother, for luck

>>1319139
>>The stone from your brother, for luck.
He won't be needing anything more, and we can tell him that.

>>1319139
>The stone from your brother, for luck

>>1319139
>Silk Scarf. He’d look so dashing
Time for Best Rock to become a superhero.

>>1319139
>The stone from your brother, for luck

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“I’ve got just the thing for you, Mace.” You reach into your bag and take out that stone your brother gave you. “Here.”

He examines in.

“A rock for a Rock type?” Polu jokes. That makes Mace change his posture to one of doubt.

“It’s not because of your typing.” You assure him. “It was a gift from my brother. He told me that it’s for luck. And you don’t need anything more than that, Mace.”

Mace turns back up to face you, then makes a soft noise. He’s always been hard to read, but you think what he wants to communicate is clear right now.

“Back at you, buddy.” You reach down and give him a hug.”

“That’s so cute!” Keira tells you. Cutiefly is buzzing around like crazy “Your aura is so sweet I think you’re giving her a sugar high.”

You don’t know if Keira is serious or not. But either way, you laugh.

Your group reaches the gym. But it doesn’t look like any gym you’ve seen. It’s a large, but fairly simple wooden building surrounded by trees. There’s a clearing off to the side with all sorts of monkey bars and ropes and walls for climbing. It looks like a heck of an obstacle course.

A figure in robes from head to toe steps out from the shadows, spooking everyone but Keira.

“Challengers?”

Polu takes the lead and bows. You follow suit. “Yes. We’d like to challenge your gym.”

“You’ll have to pass the trials, first.” The figure says. The voice is muffled. The robed figure suddenly points to you. “Golden haired child. How many family members do you have? Number only.”

The question throws you off. What an odd thing to ask. You have your brother, sister, mom, and dad. That’s five. But why ask that?

Why'd they have to call you a child in front of Keira and Polu?

>”Is this part of the trial?”
>Five.
>Nine. (Include your pokemon)
>50 (obvious lie)
>Something else

>>1319209
>Nine. (Include your pokemon)

>>1319209
>Nine. (Include your pokemon)

>>1319209
>Nine. (Include your pokemon)

>>1319209
>Five.

>>1319209
>>Nine. (Include your pokemon)

>>1319209
>>Nine. (Include your pokemon)

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>>1319209
>>Nine. (Include your pokemon)

>>1319209
>Nine. (Include your pokemon)

>>1319209
>>Nine. (Include your pokemon)

>>1319209
>>Nine. (Include your pokemon)

>>1319209
>Nine. (Include your pokemon)

>>1319209
>Nine. (Include your pokemon)

>>1319209
>You have your brother, sister, mom, and dad. That’s five.

What? That's four, right? Are all four of Herb's grandparents canonically dead then?

???

>>1319273
Also, no cousins? Aunts? Uncles?

>>1319273
>>1319278
I'm pretty sure it refers to living immediate family, you sperg.

>>1319278
maybe we should add in all our soon to be barbarian children he's gonna father and all our future Herb's Worry Free-Worry Seed coffee employees since they'll be just like family too

They probably they just mean on the island or immediate family

Wait, didn't Gobble say there was some cultural thing about having a lot children being bad? Should we really be inflating that number by counting pokemon?

>>1319284
Is count my grandmother, two aunts, uncle, and three of my cousins, in addition to my mom, dad, and sister.

Still, Herb listed four for the option of five.

>>1319317
Himself

>>1319307
its mostly that islands aren't good for supporting massive families due to limited resources, I don't think thats the point here though.

>>1319318
The question was "How many family members do you have?"
Not "How many people are in your family?"

>>1319320
Well I dunno, I'm just trying to rationalize it.

>>1319320
THIS

You guys are making too much of this question. Lets get to the challenge to prove ourselves worthy

>>1319323
>implying this isn't part of the challenge
I mean we have nothing else to do while Gobble types.

>>1319320
>We're actually having to discuss this
It's vague whether "How many family members do you have?" is supposed to include Herb or not; either interpretation is reasonably valid.

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“Nine.” You tell the figure, with more confidence than you expected to find in your voice.

“Nine?” They circle you. You hear muffled metal clanking under the robes. “Oh now. Mainlanders may breed like Nidoran, but that number sounds a bit too high to me. Name them.”

You name your parents, siblings, and pokemon.

“I see.” They say. “Maybe I misread you. You seem to have a grasp on our philosophies after all.”

You’re confused.

“I don’t understand.” Polu says on both of your behalves.

“The truth is a matter of perspective.” They tell him. “Look at his face. He believes what he said.”

It’s hard not to be self-conscious after hearing that. You look away.

“Some mention extended family, some answer the question thinking that they should lie. After all, it’s unwise to give a Teotake Puni any leverage over you. What leverage members than family members?” They look over to Keira. “Or...lovers?”

“I’m a priestess of the Ghost temple!” Keira declares. “And I don’t have the sign of enlightenment.”

“Not always mutually exclusive.”

“The what?” You whisper to Polu.

“She can’t have an attachment like a lover without proving she’s beyond the attachments of the mortal world.” He says. “There are exceptions, but-”

“You.” The figure points to Polu. “Wait over there.”

“With respect, we were hoping to challenge you together.” He bows.

“I know. And if you both pass your trials, you may. Now go. And stop bowing. I’m not from the temple.”

Polu does as he’s told.

“Golden hair. You have my interest. We’ll start with the trial of cunning.” They hold a hand up to stop any questions you might ask. “It’s simple. To deceive, one must be able to spot deception.” The gym leader steps backwards while facing you. “I will give you three literal statements. Two of them will be lies, and one is the truth.”

“I have five children.” She plays with a ring on his finger.

“If I step on that scale, I’ll weigh over 200 pounds.” They don’t look like they weigh anywhere near that. But you did hear metal clanking under the robes.

“I do not have a beard.” Their face is covered.

“Which one is the truth?”

You see Keira standing behind them, staring intently. Her and Cutiefly reacted with each statement. She gives you a look that you read as her asking if you want her to help you.

>Five children
>They don’t have a beard
>If they step on that scale, they’ll weigh over 200 pounds
>Nod to Keira to get help
>Something else

>>1319335
>They don’t have a beard
If their Pokemon are their children they have more than 5 and the metal is a setup

>>1319335
>If they step on that scale, they’ll weigh over 200 pounds

>>1319335
>She plays with a ring on his finger
Is this a man or a woman?

>>1319335
>They don't have a beard

>“I have five children.” She plays with a ring on his finger.
Thats a butt i believe?

>>1319335
>She plays with a ring on his finger.
Now THAT'S a trap, or lie, or a BUTT

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>>1319335
>>If they step on that scale, they’ll weigh over 200 pounds
the scale may read over 200, but they won't be over 200lbs. People aren't what they wear, so the metal doesn't count as them

>>1319335
>They don’t have a beard

>>1319335
>If they step on that scale, they’ll weigh over 200 pounds

>>1319344
>>1319347
That has got to be a trap to make it not obvious.

>>1319335
>Something else
>“I will give you three literal statements. Two of them will be lies, and one is the truth.”

>>1319350
I like that answer. Supporting this.

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>>1319350
oh fuck, I'm a retard. I mean that one's a lie. Apology lewds

I think
>They don’t have a beard
is true

>>1319335
>What leverage members than family members?
>What leverage better than family members????
Butt.

>>1319356
This.

>>1319335
>To deceive, one must be able to spot deception
>Have to be cunning to pass
Welp, pack it in, Herb can't spot guile worth shit.

...
Going to go out on a limb here and say it's actually one of the statements the Gym Leader made.

>>1319356
Ooooh this one

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>>1319350
I was considering this logic as well.
Very clever Gobble

>>1319335
this >>1319356

>>1319355
I'm talking about a different kind of trap, :^)

>>1319375
But we need the one that is truth.

We need to pick the single truth not a lie

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>>1319363
[Oops.]

>>1319335
>Something else
To be fair to any other answer, every single one of their statements could be a lie. There is nothing preventing that, after all.

I'd still lean toward the 200 pounds if we're assuming they're sticking with their word.

>>1319335 #
>They don’t have a beard

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>>1319383

>>1319384
So you think they weigh over 200 pounds? Metal doesn't count

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[I feel like there is a misunderstanding here. You're looking for a TRUE statement.]

>>1319335
Changing vote from >>1319346
to
>I have five children
She might be doing the same thing as we are, counting pokemon

>>1319380
Yea the wording has been throwing me off a bit, particularly the gender thing

>>1319391
Also consider this: whether or not they weigh over 200 pounds, standing on the scale won't change that.

>>1319394
A gym leader would have more than 5 Pokemon though, wouldn't they?

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what if all of them are lies?

>>1319400
Then they lied about the challenge. There is not point to >>1319356
because that isn't the challenge.

>>1319399
Possibly, but remember there is also the options of the doubles match.
And they brought up the 'lovers' thing with Keira so that might have been a clue as well.

So many potential red hernings in this, i'm really considering the 'phone a friend' option from Keira

>>1319384
>>1319391
>>1319335
Misreading the question, actually. I flipped the number of truths and lies.

In that case, I'd guess
>Five children
as we may be able to argue our way out of that by counting pokemon.

Also, just because they believe something to be a lie doens't make it so. We've already said that truth is a matter of perspective, and our perspective could be that, for example, they weigh 200 pounds with metal or they have five children because they have 6 pokemon and 6 pokemon means 6 children, which is just 5 plus one child which means they have 5 children.

You know. Logic.

>>1319407
>They have 6 Children
>So they have 5 children
What

>>1319407
that's the kind of stretched logic i can get behind for this sort of riddle

>>1319392
Uh, oops. II'll change >>1319356 to:
“I do not have a beard.”

>>1319410
They didn't say only 5
So if they had more than that they would have at least 5

>>1319410
Lets say they have 8 children. They still have 5 children, they just have another 3 on top of that.

>>1319335
>Something else
Know what, I'll try and top this further.

I guess our answer doesn't ultimately matter. The real challenge of cunning was in how we justify our answer to this person.

>>1319414
>>1319415
I'm just sticking with the beard to not over-complicate things. Don't want to prove Jane she is right that Herb is a master schemer, right? :^]

>>1319410
Its an old riddle. as long as the amount guessed is under the actual amount you're technically right. If you guess higher than the amount of children then you're wrong example - If we said 10 children and she only has 4 then we are wrong. If you guess 2 children and she has 4 then you are techically right that she does indeed have 2 kids, but she still has 2 more.

I know its tricky, i only really understood it from playing Liar's Dice/Mexican drinking dice games

>>1319335
>> three literal statements

I vote for
>They don’t have a beard
Mostly because the other two seem fishy.


>If they step on that scale, they’ll weigh over 200 pounds
Clearly false. It doesn't matter how much metal is under that robe, it will not change how much they weigh which is what the statement says.

>Five children
It seems odd to me that someone who would call out mainlands on 'breeding like Nidoran' would have 5 children. The ring thing seemed like a clearly fake tell as well, remember how wedding rings were a foreign concept to Kiera?

>>1319422
Oh shit this guy is onto something with the last point.

>>1319335
>pick two statements and say they're false, when she can't prove them then the third one must be the true statement

We've all seen aladdin

>>1319335
>Five children
an islander wouldn't have that many kids. The guy JUST finished calling mainlanders prolific breeders.

>>1319335
I'm going to commit to
>Two of them will be lies, and one is the truth
In the same vein as the "6 children also being 4" example, this isn't necessarily limited to 3 statements. If all the others were lies, then this would still be true.

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I wanna say sorry for making Gobble count this mess.

>>1319431
They also said Pokemon counting is their tradition.

>>1319433
ehh, calling someone your family is different than calling them your child.

>>1319434
Bella literally called us her dad. Also people and dogs.

Will there be a revote?
This is a bit of a mess and the discussion went on well past the 10 minute vote period

>>1319436
That's because, objectively, we ARE her father

Just like how even though she's not her pokemon, Laki is her mother

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[I'm going to call a revote since there's been a lot of debate and changing opinions. It's not quote only, but try not to get too confusing.

Which one does Herb say is true?]

>Beard
>Kids
>200 lbs
>“I will give you three literal statements. Two of them will be lies, and one is the truth.”
>Something else

>>1319422
Good call. Changing to support you.

>>1319436
They gave us literal statements. Unless she squeezed some pokemon out of her twat, then her pokemon don't count.

>>1319443
>Beard
I mean Herb isn't cunning anyways, makes sense to choose the simple one.

>>1319443
>Two of them will be lies, and one is the truth.

>>1319443
>>Beard

gonna go with >>1319422

>>1319443
>Beard

But mention why we think the other two are false.

>>1319443
>Kids
They gave us LITERAL statements. Her pokemon don't count. Islanders don't generally have many kids.

>>1319443
>Beard

>>1319443
>>1319422
>Beard

Can I say I really like this person, whoever they are? They're imploding us with logic puzzles and it's beautiful.

>Beard
>Something else
I'll put in a revote for the answer not mattering so much as the explanation for the true challenge of cunning.

>>1319450
Then you should vote for the Two Lies, because she literally doesn't weigh over 200 and literally everyone has hair on their chin unless they underwent a process to remove all hair from growing there,

>>1319443
>Something else
>Signal Keira for help

>>1319453
>>1319443
Correcting my fuckup now.

>>1319443
>“I will give you three literal statements. Two of them will be lies, and one is the truth.”
This one

>>1319443
>Beard

>>1319460
Clever. I like it.

>>1319443
>>1319460

>>1319464
>>1319460
I suppose, in this case, that the only ture statement would be that "one is the truth". But that's a tautology, so it feels kinda cheap. Also, it requires breaking up the statement to pull out the "two lies" part, because then that would need to be true as well and we'd have 4 lies at that point.

>>1319469
>but we'd have 4 lies instead of 2 :^(
Did you miss the discussion where if you have 4 of something then it means you must also have 2 of it?

>>1319472
But there still isn't a truth if all 4 are a lie.

>>1319478
The fourth false statement would be "I will give you three literal statements"

He doesn't; other people do. Besides, as long as at least 2 are false, then this one is still true.

>>1319418
She'll assume we're throwing off the tests intentionally if we fail. Lose/lose either way.

>>1319443
>200 lbs

>>1319472
Yeah, I was there for it. And now that I look at it I'm pretty sure I could argue the logic around until it turned out correct from a certain point of view.

Since it requires so many hoops that we could use to justify almost any answer, I'd still have to return to my answer here. All of them are truths or lies if spun correctly, it's just a matter of how you look at it and how we explain it. They said truth is a matter of perspective, after all.

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“You don’t have a beard.”

They put one hand on their hip and lean back. “Explain your reasoning.”

“Well, I heard metal under your robes, but that wouldn’t change your own weight, literal weight. You still weigh what you weight regardless of what you wear.”

“I see, and why didn’t you choose that I had five children?”

“Well, you played with your ring before, but wedding rings aren’t part of your culture, so I thought maybe that was meant to be misleading. And Loanan’s don’t usually have large families.”

“A logical deduction.”

“But I was also tempted to say ‘I will give you three literal statements. Two of them will be lies, and one is the truth.’”

“I see where you would be going with that. Clever. And yet you decided that I do not have a beard. Are you sure that’s your final answer?’

You nod.

They remove their face covering, and you see the smooth face of a woman. “In truth, even women have small hairs on their face, unless they go to painstaking efforts to get rid of them. But is that a beard? Well, it’s a matter of interpretation, isn’t it?”

“So... I failed?”

“That’s a matter of interpretation, isn’t it?” She repeats. “What do you think?”

“I...passed?”

“Stop asking questions and speak your truth.”

“I passed.” You have to fight every urge to ask that as a question. You think you get what she’s doing. You passed if you think you passed, because believing something makes it your truth.

Right?

But she said it was literal. Unless that was a lie? You’re so confused!

“Good. Wait here.” She secures her face covering and walks over to Polu. You can’t hear what they’re talking about, but you’re guessing it’s the same thing.

After a moment, he gives her an answer. It must be a good one, because she shows her face to him, too. She then drops the robes, and a layer of metal armor and weights below. She has lost a significant amount of size.

She and Polu walk to the monkey bars and motion you and Keira over. When you get there, you see that it’s a whole obstacle course in a straight line. It looks tough.

“The second trial is also simple. I’m going to flip this hourglass. All you have to do is get to the opposite side of the obstacle course. You fail if all the sand in the hourglass falls to the other side. There’s only one rule; You can’t go under the ropes.” She motions to the ropes marking the bounder on either side of the course. That makes sense. You could just go around them. “Polu, you’re first.”

Polu lines himself up at the starting line. He looks up to the gym leader to signal that he’s ready, and she flips the hourglass over and sets it on the ground.

(continued)

>>1319508
>You can’t go under the ropes.
jump over them

>>1319508
inb4 we take the hourglass with us and keep turning it.

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>>1319508
Polu takes off like Mace. He jets from one monkey bar to the next, steps through each tire, and climbs the rope, He swings from one rope to the next over a pit of water now, showing off his slightly intimidating physical strength. Next, he has to crawl under a bunch of wire. You and Keira yell and cheer for him. He reaches the long stretch and pumps his legs for all they’re worth. He flies through the finish line just seconds before the hourglass runs out.

“Yeah!” You high five him. His arm is shaking and his palms are sweaty. He smiles and pants, but doesn’t say much. He’s still catching his breath.

“Good job.” Keira tells him.

The gym leader turns to you. “You’re next.”

You stand by the obstacle course entrance and get ready.

She flips the hourglass.

>RUN! (will require a roll)
>Something else

[Last vote of the night]

>>1319516
>Something else
Ignore the obstacle course; just go over the ropes and run on the side.

>>1319516
>Climb on Mace and rocket man through the course

>>1319515
Could also break the hourglass and let the sand scatter. Gives us all the time in the world.

>RUN! (will require a roll)
I'd like Herb to take the simple route, though.