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Welcome back, duelists, to the seventy-eigth installment of Mecha Space Pirate Quest! I'm Wong, and today you are...well, we're doing more stuff with the tourney pilots and then you'll probably be Roarke again, we'll see how it goes, I'm notoriously unreliable.

Previous Threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Mecha+Space+Pirate+Quest%2C+Collective+Game%2C+mecha
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Mecha%20Space%20Pirate%20Quest
Master Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/sSHs0QmF
Upgrade Menu: http://pastebin.com/QQQzkFZe
List of Moves: http://pastebin.com/HSdyCe2y
Rogues' Gallery: http://pastebin.com/E9ZcDLfG
Brazilia's Kawaii Space Jam Gallery: http://pastebin.com/pZtRmbWS

Last time, three brave men held their castle against assault and rescued ten endangered maidens.
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>>1213620
A moment of silence for those poor Bluegill pilots.
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>>1213620
There we are. And here is a freshly minted propaganda poster. Made three of them.
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“So, what now?” James McClintock suggests. It seems like he's learning. As fantastic as he is as a pilot and a warrior, open battles like this aren't his bailiwick.

“WE RETURN TO OUR VESSEL. OUR ALLIES ARE SAFE, WE HAVE THE STRATEGIC EDGE, IF WE CAN FREE THE OTHERS WE WILL BE ABLE TO TURN THIS FIGHT COMPLETELY IN OUR FAVOR. SIMPLE TACTICS.” Wyatt replies.

“The Jovians have to know by now they're outnumbered. Even if we just keep their remaining mecha busy, it's 13-12 or so now, and our numbers are only going to go up, meaning some of us can focus on disabling the ship itself.” Grant reflects, rubbing the chin of his helmet.

The Pharcyde nods, “INDEED. THEY HAVE AN EDGE IN SHIP-TO-SHIP COMBAT AGAINST CIVILIAN TRANSPORTS, BUT WE HAVE THEM BEAT IN MECHA COMBAT BARRING TRULY UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES. IT'S A SITUATION THEY'RE UNFAMILIAR WITH, BEING BEATEN EVEN WHEN THEY STACK THE DECK...AND IT MIGHT MAKE THEM UNPREDICTABLE, KEEP YOUR GUARD UP.”

“Like the three mecha leaving their ship and making for our position.” McClintock notes, “Whew, they're...they're really coming right here.”

“They're moving together like a team, too.” Grant replies grimly, staring at the blinking contact icons on his sensors, as if willing them to move faster and come into focus.

“JUST THREE?” Wyatt Questions, and then a note neither of the others could have imagined enters his voice, “NO, IT CAN'T BE...”

[Meanwhile, back on the ship...]
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>>1213620
So it begins.

The last alliance of Red Siren Pirate Harpy Boss and Red Siren Pirate Harpy Sub-Boss.
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>>1213633
very nice
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>>1213639
>Star wolf theme intensifies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsfc-ZRP9AU
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>>1213641
Thank you. Propaganda posters are fun to make if you know how to do them. Simple, to the point, catch the eyes.
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>>1213639
>“JUST THREE?” Wyatt Questions, and then a note neither of the others could have imagined enters his voice, “NO, IT CAN'T BE...”

It's not another SOUL team, is it? Kinda doubt that it's more competitors.
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>>1213633
>>1213649
>>1213668
now i want some belt poster's. and avalonian to.
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>>1213679
Haven't you heard, SOUL is on the uprise since the defeat of TWO Paladins by Amos "That's a Paddlin to ya Paladin' Wedge
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>>1213679
IIRC, there are a few famous Venusian and Saturn aces that we haven't run into yet. They presumably don't have the budget that a Mars or Jupiter ace would, so it might be them.
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>>1213693
Avalonian could be difficult. I see their propoganda as renaissance paintings
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>>1213710
>Not using medieval memes.
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>>1213693
I've got some ideas, but Avalon isn't really that easy to do posters for. Propaganda and Ye Olde Knights are oil and water. Chivalry is full of purple prose, but that hurts propaganda. The Belt is much easier since it's a matter of unity, freedom, and taking whats due.
Hell, I figured out a name for them. Either Eisentor Defense Force or Eisentor Nation Defense.
So you have either EDF or END.
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>>1213668
>tfw the only people who have beaten paladins in stand up fights without lucky shots are Roarke and Stern (who also had to deal with adds)

Why isn't anyone talking about how fucking mean Stern was in his battle? Sure he didn't disable Kittytoe but considering the circumstances and the fact he came out on top means in all likelihood he would have taken out the Duke.

No I'm not just asking Wong to write up that fight for us to see. Clearly.

I didn't just miss a post or seven in the thousands in the quest so far, did I?
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>>1213721
>"OH NO! ITS THE END!"
KEK
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>>1213722
It happened in the Battle of Mars' Gate. Stern didn't get recognition in part because of Fairchild's manipulation and his failure to capture Oliver and Duke Rothschild.
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>>1213722
Wong rolled the entire fight, but never bothered to tell us the whole story.
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>>1213721

PLEBIANS WANTED
for hazardous battlefields
small wages
long months on cold dark space
constant danger
safe return doubtful
Honour and knighthood in case of success
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>>1213721
>EDF
Giant bugs and Balams when?
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>>1213722
Because it wasn't really decisive. Stern is also their ace in the hole. You don't talk about those to the public, especially since Stern is close to Fairchild's rank. If he gained popularity it hurts her more.
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“I say, are you finished yet?” The tall, mature blonde lady clad in a high-class customized Martian-pattern pilot suit with a gemstone-inlaid nanofiber shawl taps her foot impatiently.

“Shhh.” Kathrine waves her away, frowning, “But they're going to get hurt! What 'survival of the fittest', this isn't just a contest, it's a show, and if we lose performers ROSIE IS GOING TO BE UPSET!” She huffs, “She's worked hard on this and I am NOT going to let her down so...so you get your butts over here right now!” She glowers into the hacked terminal she's using to access the nearest ansible satellite, “Or...what? What do you mean 'or what!?'”

The girl with the scar smacks her fist into her open palm, “Hnf.”

“Or I call every bar on Auditorium and tell them to drop your line of credit! I don't care about your training exercises, we have hostiles HERE! The ship's captain betrayed us, things would go a lot more smoothly if you showed up with a pirate ship to put the fear of Roarke into them. W-what do you mean this is just for my convenience!? We're in real trouble here!” Kathrine scolds whoever's on the other end of the line.

The girl with the scar tsks, and shakes her head.

The mature blonde puts a hand on the scarred girl's shoulder, “Dearie, if you don't mention that seemingly-nice young man I let out of his cabin to the nice girl who works for Red Siren, I'll help you get the sniping cannon mounted on your tank and you can have some fun.”

The scarred girl grins cheerfully and rubs her hands together in anticipation, “Goody.” She remarks, picking up an autowrench and tossing it to the older woman with enough force to make her stagger back as she catches it. They set to work.

“PUT RACHEL ON THE LINE! PUT HER ON RIGHT NOW, MISTER FLINT, I'M PUTTING MY FOOT DOWN! I'M GOING TO TELL YOUR WIFE YOU'RE BEING MEAN TO ME AND MEAN TO RED SIREN'S GIRLS!” Kathrine sounds like she's on the verge of tears.

[Continued]
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>>1213722

Because it wasn't a clean win and they were part of a relatively largish melee. S-Lionfish was damaged too.
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>>1213761
Uh, I may have been unclear, but I didn't mean full autistic for Mai. Just like, 4chan obsessed autism, you know?
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>>1213778

No, I know, but she just doesn't tend towards unnecessary words. There's nothing wrong upstairs.
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>>1213794
Ah, alright.

I was worried I had autismed a not-actually-autistic character into being actually autistic. Would've been a pretty massive fuck up on my part.
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>>1213753
I will never stop being salty this shit isnt on the Xbone.
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>>1213812
She doesn't really seem that autistic to me. Lacks a few of the things I've seen or dealt with. Just seems like a dedicated specialist or tank maniac.
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>>1213761
>seemingly-nice young man
Wonder which pilot it is
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>>1213832
I've never had to "deal" (not the exactly right word, but I hope you get what I mean) with an autistic person, just been around people with it or downs a couple of times. When I was, they just used noises or weird words to communicate. I was afraid I'd messed up getting across my ideas. Again. It's a problem for me.
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>>1213857
Grunting is a perfectly viable means of communication. As is screeching.
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>>1213857
Yeah, Mai doesn't come across as autistic, just angry.
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>>1213865
Screeching, you say?
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>>1213721
Well END is a nice message to send to your enemy's but EDF rolls off the tongue better in my opinion.
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>>1213870
Truly the Hero of Jove.
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>>1213865
Grunting makes up at least 30% of my vocabulary.
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>>1213778
>Implying that driving a tank without 3D space movement just because isn't the height of insanity. :P
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>>1213857
Seems like the lower end of the spectrum. I've dealt with the higher end stuff or those who have been trying to improve themselves. Know a guy who's got Downs and is pretty good at baking, just has some problem with the social stuff.
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>>1213888
>without 3D space movement
For now. Just you wait until my glorious flying tank destroys Avalon.
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>>1213900
tank as big as a ship
ship-tank
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“W-well who can you send, then!? Oh. Oh, yes, that's fine. You could have just said so!” Kathrine doesn't sound much happier, “Well, tell them to hurry, some of the boys are holding them off, but the odds really aren't good!” She terminates the call and flops back into her chair with a sigh. “I hope he's okay.”

“Who, dear?” The blonde woman, Lady Sparna, tightens a rivet with a grimace of distaste despite the efficiency with which she works.

“The...well, one of the boys out there. He was really charming.” She sighs, “Of...of course I should just stay out of the way. He probably has a girlfriend or...or a wife. I mean, we only spoke over a PA, and...and just because he wanted to rescue me, it doesn't mean anything really, right? He's probably just brave and selfless like that with all the girls, and I'm just another one caught up in his wake and...and...and I should just keep quiet around him. I'd just be bothering him, I bet, and if I said anything it would get awkward and ruin a great working relationship.”

“Hmmm.” Lady Sparna lifts a pair of viewmax lenses to the front of her helmet, and zooms in, “Do you know which mech he's in?”

“His name is Alexander Grant and he pilots the Libra and...waaaah! I'm not a stalker, I swear! Don't look at me like that, both of you!” Kathrine recoils from the judgmental gazes of her new friends. “I-I was just gathering information and came across those facts!”

“Gathering information, hmm? Well, I'm not a pirate, not yet at least, and I don't know which one is which...do you, Mai?” Lady Sparna looks imperiously over at her traveling companion.

“Nah.” Mai comments laconically, working a crane to lift the sniper loadout into place, “Give me a hand.”

Kathrine's shoulders slump, “The sharply-colored one with the slender wings. The pilot has tousled dark hair and these really deep eyes and a perfect chin.” She sighs sadly.

[Continued]
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>>1213931
>inb4 the Storm Dragons appear
Wait, let me atualize the Walkure...
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>>1213950
That or we get to see some of our very first MP units. Come on Myrms or Dutchmen!
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>>1213966
Huh, I wonder if they are bringing the Avalonians too for some reason...
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“Oh, good, because I like the stylish one with the flail. My, that coloration is such a classic.” Lady Sparna licks her lips, “I bet the pilot is tall.”

“Mhhmm.” Mai agrees, “Broad shoulders.”

“Powerful arms, too. Look at how he fights. He doesn't have anything to prove, he's finishing off the damaged ones and creating openings for his allies. A true team player. That kind of confidence is something I haven't seen since...since...” Lady Sparna feels a pang of loss for a husband dearly loved.

Mai, the girl with the scar, has heard Lady Sparna's entire life story and gives her a sympathetic look. “Talk to him. I'll make sure he gets back.” She smiles. People who've only seen Mai frown or glower would be startled by the purity of that smile.

“You're a good girl, Miss Uaifu. But...an old lady like me has no business trying to relive the springtime romances of girlhood.” She is, for the record, younger than General Hermione Fairchild or General Regina Hatsheput, both of whom have active love lives if you count poor Regina pining for a space pirate half her age as active. “I'll fade into the shadows, I know you like him too, so...you have my full support! Go, know the same happiness I did!”

Kathrine watches uncomfortably, getting out her PC and messing around with it, “Ummm...girls?” She timidly interjects.

She goes unheard, “No.” Mai insists, “You spoke first. I'll be alright.” She promises, “Plenty of men in the galaxy.”

Lady Sparna shakes her head, “No, no, I insist. You'll make him happy, I won't. I'm sure a practical man like that would find me too demanding.”

“You have a good heart, Marciana. If he's not happy, that's his fault.” Mai responds promptly and firmly.

Kathrine sighs and projects a holographic image between them, “Wyatt Stills, pilot of the Pharcyde, age fourteen...”

Mai and Marciana stare in horror. “But...but that's a little boy...” Marciana says first, her lower lip quivering at the unfairness of it all.

Mai just covers her own face with her hands, once again reaffirming her lack of any belief in a just and righteous god.

Out in the cold void, Wyatt is unaware that once again he has broken the hearts of two women. It's a situation he's extremely familiar with. He's too busy staring grimly at the approaching trio of mecha. In preparation, he reaches out and grips the joystick that controls his missiles, arming them and watching the crosshairs dance across his screen.

[Continued]
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>>1213842
>implying an attempt was even made

Absolute kek.
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>>1213620
Yes I'm here! For the Space Jam!
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Game resumes in less than an hour, giving time for Wong to eat.
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>>1213989
Well then
This is hilarious
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>>1213989
cakes just want love
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>>1214035
Hey Solaire! Ready for kicking ass?
And for shipping?
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>>1214049
Well yes but there is no shipping for Mag yet, personally I'm fine with that.
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>>1214044
Does Mai's inspiration look old enough to be a cake? She doesn't to me.
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>>1213989
Haha, reminds me of that one spider man page. Anyway I caught this just in time! Mecha Space Pirate Quest forever!
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Huh, is the Buddy now a Palomino instead of a Morgan II? It's downsized.
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>>1213989
I can't wait for Marcianna and Inari to meet.
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>>1214108
I think it's a Morgan-II Torso with Pumpkinseed or Palomino limbs.
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>>1214059
Well.... Luca is single... And he seems to have quite the interest in chilvarious themes...
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>>1214133
He's also a total fag

not that there's anything wrong with that.
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>>1214133
Luca probably has someone back home.
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>>1213989
>this entire sequence
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>>1214108
Is it? Ah, thought something got changed. Nah, that's how it is. Well, now that I think about it...mistakes were made.

Oh well, let's see how it goes.
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>>1214139
Well... Paladin-sama never confirmed anything... but those legs say everything...

>>1214152
>Implying that there is anything more than friendzone waiting him back there.
...
>People think that luca is an lone avalonian and try to bully him.
>Magnarus appears to save the day
>"wtf I love avalon now"
>Strong, taller, and always chatty Magnarus takes a liking on the young boy and takes him around the city because the poor fellow reminds him of himslef on his youth and because he needs a guide.
>Romantic innuendos happen all the time but magnarus just don't notice it.
>Everyone notice this but magnarus.
>The gods of romantic comedy are trolling Luca again.
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>>1214210
On second thought, that could make sense...Morgan-II replacement limbs could be a bit expensive for Walter...and he had to make do with whatever was on hand.

Well, that sounds legit.
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>>1214241
I shall name this Anime: "My Jovian Knight can't be this cute!"
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>>1214241
Dude, you were already kind of annoying when you just had Akai to shitpost with.

now you're becoming insufferable.
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>>1214241
>Implying implications

This isn't the board to argue this. But fair warning: I ain't afraid to shank a BRo over a ship.

>>1214280
Also *god damn* there's so much art of this guy. Every time I've ever played a character I've been strapped for images, but now that it's just an NPC it's like hitting a gold mine.

>>1214302
Also, yeah. Maybe cut down on the images before Wong turns a baleful eye this way.
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>>1214241
>>1214133
Oi, slim down on the images, I still have propaganda posters to make.
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>>1214313
Pffff, I can't even go austistical about fictional characters in a forum about chinese cartoons anymore without you guys getting mad at me!

...Okay I'll stop with the gay ship.

>>1214327
Eeeeehhhh, But we are just on the 25 mark!
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>>1214313
>Also *god damn* there's so much art of this guy.

Because fangirls love a good faggy character. And he's "prettier" than the protag. Those homoerotic undertones are so fucking strong it hurts.
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>>1214335
Wong will want to use those pics ya filthy animal.
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>>1214335
it's not that you're going full autismo that's the problem

it's that you run shit into the ground harder than the Knuckle Kaiser curbstomps grunts.
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>>1214363
>rip 40 harpies
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BR, ease it off on avatarfagging with other people's characters. It's rude.
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Not-Huey referencing Snatch... Ahh this thread is off to a very strong start!
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“What is it, Wyatt? SOUL?” Alexander Grant questions.

“NEGATIVE. JUST AN IRRITANT.” Wyatt replies flatly, “WE SHOULD ENGAGE THEM AT MAXIMUM RANGE. NO COMMS. THEY'LL ONLY BE A DISTRACTION.”

The center mech fires a blue flare, UJCIDF signal for parlay.

“It's two more of those upgraded Pumpkinseeds.” James McClintock reports, “And what looks like a Morgan II.

The Libra turns its head towards the Lightning, “Looks like? It's matching what my instruments say, but...” He frowns, “Yeah, it's hard to tell with how customized it is, but that's a Morgan II.”

“Black armor, a pair of curved horns...this guy really customizes his shit, doesn't he?” McClintock tsks, “Let's fuck them up.”

“INDEED.” Wyatt agrees, “SO COMMON SENSE REALLY DOES LURK DEEP WITHIN YOUR HEART. WELL DONE, JIM. NOW, I SUGGEST AN ALPHA STRIKE ON THE LEFTMOST PUMPKINSEED DEUCE. DO NOT STOP FIRING UNTIL YOU SEE AN EJECTION.”

“What, why?” Grant asks, “Not the leader? Why the left one?”

“THE STRONGEST MECH WITH THE MOST RANK IS NOT ALWAYS THE LEADER.” Wyatt intones gravely.

“Purple armor with silver and black highlights and a shark emblem in yellow on the left shoulder. The other Deuce is relatively plain...practically unpainted, really. What's with the shark one, Wyatt?” Alexander Grant questions.

“DO YOU KNOW WHAT 'NEMESIS' MEANS, AL?” Wyatt replies in a world-weary voice, “A RIGHTEOUS INFLICTION OF RETRIBUTION MANIFESTED BY AN APPROPRIATE AGENT. PERSONIFIED, IN THIS CASE, BY A HORRIBLE CUNT. SERGEANT MAKO NUNEZ.”

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“I see.” The Libra nods.

“I don't.” The Lightning crosses its arms.

“ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH 'LES MISERABLES', MOST PARTICULARLY THE CHARACTER OF JAVERT?” The Pharcyde questions.

“Yes, of course.” Alexander Grant affirms.

“What the fuck is a Mizzerablaze?” McClintock demands to know.

“A CLASSIC WORK OF ART I AM DISAPPOINTED YOU LACK THE SLIGHTEST FAMILIARITY WITH, TELLING THE TALE OF ONE OF THE MOST ORIGINAL GANGSTERS PURSUED BY THE MAN THROUGH NO FAULT OF HIS OWN.” Wyatt heaves a long-suffering sigh and refrains from calling his erstwhile ally anything that would besmirch his own dignity, “JAVERT WAS A JAILOR MOST FOUL WHO PURSUED THE PROTAGONIST, JEAN VALJEAN, AFTER HE HAD WON HIS FREEDOM AND ESCAPED PRISON. IT WAS NOT BECAUSE JEAN WAS GUILTY OF ANY REAL CRIME, OR BECAUSE HE WAS A BAD PERSON, BUT BECAUSE JAVERT WAS SO SINGLE-MINDEDLY DEVOTED TO HIS OBEDIENCE TO THE LAW THAT HE COULD NOT CEASE HIS PURSUIT AND BUILD A HAPPY JEAN-FREE LIFE. SO LONG AS JEAN WAS FREE, HIS PURSUIT WOULD PERSIST. WITHOUT IT, HE HAD NO PURPOSE. NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND?”

“Not really.” McClintock shrugs with glorious disregard for such things, “I say we talk to them. It can't hurt to see what they want, and if the worst comes to it we smash their mecha and take their shit.”

Just then, all three receive a hail over the comms.

>[Accept]
>[Shoot the purple one before anything awful happens.]
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>>1214432
>>[Shoot the purple one before anything awful happens.]
Shoot first ask questions later
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>>1214432
>>[Accept]
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>>1214432
I'm morally obligated to pick

>[Accept]
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>>1214436
never change thunderbird
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>>1214432
>>[Accept]
I can see McClintlock doing it just to dick with Wyatt.
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>>1214432
>[Shoot the purple one before anything awful happens.]

I am disappoint when the most hot-headed fool on the team decides to talk.
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>>1214131
Oh right, trying to make something in Gundam Breaker 3.

I'm guessing the Pumpkinseed is a not-Gyan, so what's the Palomino?
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>>1214432
>[Shoot the purple one before anything awful happens.]
this fits this group I'd say.
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>>1214432
>[Shoot the purple one before anything awful happens.]
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>>1214432

>[Accept]
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>>1214449

A Graze, but people's various customs look more Jeganesque because originally I used Jegans before realizing the Jegan is a much better visual reference for the Mustang.
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>>1214432

>[Shoot the purple one before anything awful happens.]
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>>1214432
>1 Accept
>2 Shoot
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>>1214432
>[Accept]
>[Then shoot after a few seconds of conversation for distraction]
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>>1214432
>>[Accept]
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>>1214462
Fug, no Graze parts on my end.

Anyway,
>[Accept]
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Oh, and if the creator of the Libra is anywhere around, does Alexander have access to the beam bayonet using the regular CROWE?
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>>1214484
I'm not him, but yes he does.
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>>1214432
>[Shoot the purple one before anything awful happens.]
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Ay tripfaggot here just strolling by.

Bitch with the heart eyepatch.

She a waifu in this quest or what?
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>>1214579
Yes. It's a Harem.

>>1214432
>>1214402

Huh, is Mako Wong's entry?
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>>1214579
2/10 good bait is subtle.
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>>1214579
... aren't you they guy who sometimes starts fake versions of other peoples quests? Or am I thinking of some other namefag?
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>>1214588
>>1214587
>>1214585

I've heard one of the harem members in this quest is some bitch everyone hates and is only fuckbuddies with MC because she's such a hateful bitch.

Is eyepatch lady that waifu?
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>>1214594
I've only done that once.

To magical girl noir quest
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Well, Buddyanon here. With the realization of what I've done, I decided to build Buddy in Gundam Breaker 3.

In the absence of Graze parts, since I don't have the DLC for it, here's a frankenstein of a Rick Dias, Break Dias, GM II, and a Gyan.
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>>1214595
uh... no. not sure where that description came from except maybe the bait store.
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>>1214595
That doesn't sound like any of them.

If your source of info is the General then you should probably find better sources.
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>>1214133
>>1214241
Well I am a fan of traps...But he's not what I'd call the level of trap we've seen or girl-boy for that matter.
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>>1214595
>>1214579

I suspect this is some sort of trick. After all, to know about the waifus you would probably know who the one with the heart eyepatch is. Shoo shoo, trickster.
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>>1214595
>it's getting worse
Don't worry bud, you'll make it to being a good shitposter one day. Until then, keep trying.
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>>1214610
I know literally nothing about this quest.

Tell me about girl with eyepatch pls
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>>1214632
Why not just, read the quest?
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>>1214632
Read quest archive, find out yourself.
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>>1214637
>>1214642
Guys he's just shitposting. Ignore him.
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>>1214632
Read the archive.

>In b4 it's too long

That just means you've got plenty of material to enjoy.
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>>1214609
Have... To resist... The temptation to shitpost....

>>1214632
Seriously? This way worse than me.... Just read the archive already.
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>>1214608
that General is 100% cancer. Feels like fucking /lit/ in there
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McClintock hits accept, and two voices immediately ring out over the comms.

“Troublesome fools! You may have caused some damage to the most worthless of my minions but I, CAPTAIN PIKE, will not be undone by the likes of you!” Booms a deep, male voice. Two compartments on the Morgan's back open up, and it draws a pair of long, needle-tipped mass lances with integrated cannons, “I took these from two of the Knights I shot down, I've grown to prefer them to the equipment I was originally assigned despite the cost of more thrusters to compensate for the added weight.” It spins the lances around its hands, deploying a hexagonal folding shield on a short sub-arm from its right wrist.

“If you say the line about the bull and the horns one more time I swear I'll shoot you. I fucking swear I will. I can hear how small your dick is.” Groans the second voice, female and a bit harsh, but young, “Now shut the fuck up. WYATT! You little shit! Give me back my mech!”

“SERGEANT YOU CAN'T THREATEN ME I'M A CAP-” The Morgan II goes flipping end over end as the purple Pumpkinseed Deuce performs a complicated movement with its thrusters and kicks it directly in the back of the head.

The silver Pumpkinseed II just watches the tourneygoers warily.

“Not under your command, fucko! I've got special orders. Wyatt, get back here or I SWEAR you're getting paddled! We're going home right now!” The purple Pumpkinseed jabs an authoritative finger at the Pharcyde.

“GENTLEMEN, SHE HAS ENTERED THE BLOODRAGE. KINDLY OPEN FIRE WHILE THEY ARE DISTRACTED.” Wyatt instructs.

>[Initiative! 1d10+7]
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Rolled 2 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>1214656
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Rolled 1 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>1214656
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Rolled 1 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

welp, the shitposters using a trip so just filter that.

>>1214656
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Rolled 4 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>1214656
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>>1214658
>>1214662
>>1214664
Wow, good job.

Also, wish I could but it hides every post that's even slightly connected to them. It looks ugly.
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>>1214637
>>1214642
>>1214653
>>1214654

I'm really just passably interested in this one character's look.

Does she show up early, late, recently?
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>>1214664
can never make that damn thing work
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>>1214656
Rolling...

>>1214658
>>1214662
>>1214664
>>1214668
Welp
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Rolled 8 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>1214656
I swear Pike is a familiar name...
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>>1214656
>"KINDLY OPEN FIRE WHILE THEY ARE DISTRACTED.”
Huh, Another follower of the path of Explosions it seems!

>>1214670
Soon, third arc I think.
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Rolled 1 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>1214670
Early trick

>>1214656
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Rolled 1 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>1214656
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Rolled 8 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>1214672
And I screw it up again.
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>>1214678
>>1214677
>>1214664
>>1214662
man, not playing as Roarke sucks
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>>1214670
If you're actually interested, she shows up early.

She's a Pop Singer turned Pirate Queen.
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Rolled 8 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>1214656
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>>1214685
I mean, we megacrit two Paladins to death while not playing as Roarke.
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>>1214671
just highlight the trip, then click on the arrow at the end of the post number to and select filter selected text from the drop down, the trip should appear in the tripcode box, then just select the hide button next to it and save the setting.
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>>1214691
excellent, that's going into the 4chan notepad
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>>1214690
Thats because we played Amos, who's somehow Roarke+ when it comes to luck.
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>>1214685
That, or the Dice Gods are displeased with Avatarfagging, especially when the avatar is someone else. Looking at you BRAnon.
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In case this is the guy who makes fake quests, everyone do take note of my trip. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

>>1214670

On the off chance that you are not actually a shitposter, long ago there was one person who hated a particular waifu to an eerie degree, but it wasn't the one with the eyepatch. Fastest way to find out about her is to start from the very, very beginning.
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Rolled 8, 2, 3, 7, 2, 10, 8, 7, 6, 10 = 63 (10d10)

>>1214702
we must sacrifice dice to appease them
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>>1214697
Like I said earlier though, it hides anything connected to them. So it'll hide replies of replies of replies. You may miss something important if you just hide it.

Don't forget to refresh if you do it though. It won't work if you don't.
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>>1214708
Do you catch a lot of shitposting?

Like this is an eerie amount of relatively unwarranted hostility.
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>>1214708
>long ago
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Unfortunately, despite being distracted, they still act first.

This is a straight three-on-three, so you can input general orders about how you want to attack and versus who. I've got a quick thing to take care of and I'll be back in ten. For once, an inconvenience is convenient.
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>>1214715
I believe it's because your reputation precedes you.
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>>1214715
plus we have enough tripfags already
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>>1214484
yes.
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>>1214715
In Trick's defense he only took over Westeros quest because Velo was railroading and pretending to be an anon.
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>>1214715

Eh, back on /tg/, sure. Plus there were a dedicated few people who were angry about various waifus, a namefag and some drawfags who got angry when there was a harem instead of invoking battles to the death.

I was more concerned by your name before I googled you and what seemed a lot like a baitpost, but I don't filter anyone regardless. People are being silly.
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>>1214718
Hmmm. Missile the duel wielder, take him down, then nip the Deuces? He's got the highest damage likely, so removing him is important. If possible grenade their position and chip them a bit. The duece's shield would take the full hits, and it would weaken that limb enough.
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>>1214719
>>1214722
>>1214724

So do you guys know him and can vouch for/against him or what?
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>>1214711
weird, it doesn't hide replies of replies for me, hell I can still see his posts if I mouse over a link to them.

>>1214715
You had a contentious entry into the thread with a touchy subject seemingly phrased in a way meant to start waifu war shitposting.

that and the few times i've seen you about, the context has not been in your favor. I'm probably over reacting, been a bit of a shitty week.
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>>1213620
Source on the blonde girl?
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>>1214718
>Libra fire blast rounds at the one in the middle.
>Wyatt missile spam 10 Missiles at the Pumpkinseed II and then more ten at the middle one.
>Lightning starwind kicks the silver one and slice him up two times.
Hit them hard and hit them fast.
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>>1214715
Breaking my word, but...

>shitposts as blatantly as possible
>admits to being a troll
I wonder why.

>>1214718
Wyatt and Grant focus Pike, McClinton either finishes him off or goes one of the Pumpkinseeds. Wyatt and Grant shoot whoever McFlintlock isn't attacking so Grant doesn't blast him to death.
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>>1214739
He's a rampant annoying shitposter on /qtg/ and some other quests. Other than that, I don't think he's done anything terribly heinous.
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>>1214730
>I googled you

what?

Did that work?
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>>1214744
Maybe it's 4chanX thing then. When I hide a trip or ID, it hides everything related to it.
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>>1214745
Guys, I think that now we're being raided by trips.
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>>1214745
And thats Soma's old trip that got leaked
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>>1214745
Get out you potato nigger.
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>>1214745
ah fuck we're getting hit by shitposters, everyone brace for low quality bait.
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>>1214745

Why are we getting two tripfags taking an interest in waifus simultaneously?
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>>1214764
That's Soma's old trip that people found out. He's undeniably a troll.
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>>1214747
Firing at the one in the middle will ablate the other two and probably screw him enough.
Wyatt can one shot two of them with crist if he burns luck enough.
Lightning has to act last and deal with anyone still alive, as he is limited to close range at could get caught in the blast.
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>>1214764
Soma fucked off from his quest awhile back, and thats his old trip anyway, so I think its just a shitposter.
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>>1214750

I have the upgraded Google with Original Tay assistant, of course it works.
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>>1214764
Dude, just ignore them and continue on.
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Alright, that's enough hilarity.

Feed me 1d10+13s.
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>>1214745
>>1214764

This is also TrickQM. He's a trolling shitposter.

The real Soma is dead after taking 6 math courses in one go.
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Rolled 2 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214784
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Rolled 9 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214784
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Rolled 3 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214784
Wyatt
+4Luck
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Rolled 10 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214784
Witness Me!
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Rolled 8 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214784
This trolling is so bad it's honesty making me feel embarrassed for them.
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Rolled 2 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214784
Aye. Fresh thread, fresh luck. +1
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Rolled 9 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214784
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Rolled 3 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214784
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Rolled 9 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214784
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Rolled 4 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214784
Your shitposting will never reach the level of BQ.
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Rolled 4 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214784
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>>1214791

That's not me.

>>1214801
The trolling is so bad because no one is trolling
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>>1214808
>howdareyoustandwherehestood.bak
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Rolled 10, 4, 6, 9, 9, 10 = 48 (6d10)

>>1214795
>>1214799
>>1214800
>>1214801
>>1214802
>>1214803


>>1214794

I'm sorry, Trick, I can't accept your roll. It would be bad luck to have your first roll in this thread be a 2. After all, there's nothing inherently bad about encouraging people to fight for their waifu.
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>>1214755
>>1214756
>>1214759
>>1214763
>>1214764
>>1214791
Why are you so upset? I just want her name so I can jerk off to her later.
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>>1214817
>>1214817
It was my second roll and both my rolls in this thread have been 2s
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>>1214817
>momma stills doesn't take no shit
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>>1214808
>>1214814

Tell me the story while we handle these dice.
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>>1214817
..dear lord.
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>>1214817
They are all at +13?
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>>1214830
If one is going for capture, they may target limbs and take a penalty to hits. I think it's a -2 or -3.
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>>1214810
On the off chance you aren't shitposting, welcome to MSPQ btw. We do have a tendency to be a bit aggressive towards namefags since we have/had a ton of them for a while.

>>1214819
Clementine.
heres a wiki page for her: http://overlordmaruyama.wikia.com/wiki/Clementine
that should give you all you need to find fap material.
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>>1214826
I wasn't actually part of Banished Quest, but I've gone through the archives and the actual Soma spent more time shitposting/baiting in his own quest than running it. He was pretty good at it too, and still managed to make the quest entertaining to read, though it probably wasn't as fun actually being there.

The guy trolling now would be like if Benito Mussolini tried to tell people he was Caesar. Or a more modern example, Mike Pence trying to pass himself off as Trump.
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>>1214837
I mean i'd understand a blanket ban on namefags but two of them got their rolls accepted while mine were rejected because there'd been some weird miscommunication here that frankly i don't understand
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>>1214814
I don't get the quote.

>>1214826
Jesus. It's less a story and more a state of being. Some QMs persist in the face of overwhelming shitposting. Soma encouraged it.

> Chryssfags BTFO forever.

The waifu wars. Oh god. It was bad enough in-thread, but then BQ got an IRC.

> Fuck off Rob. Fucking die.

The IRC had namefags. It was a perfect example of why name and trip fags are fucking cancerous death to anything good.

> MFW we have a nigger-faggot AnCap tripfag in this quest, and of course he's a shitposter as well.

The IRC people divided into two camps, both of them terrible, and tried to co-ordinate in-thread voting to favour their waifu or even make terrible decisions resulting in the death of the MC.

Like the quest wasn't capable of doing that on its own.

> Nobody cared who I was until I put on the Mask.

> The Spice must Flow.

> Fuck this bar and everyone in it in particular.

> Let's bang the human.

> Put on the crown

And probably a bunch of other terrible Ideas I'm forgetting like

> Nuke the Pirate Base and kill VarVar

The TL;DR is Namefags should be excluded whenever possible.
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>>1214817

Amazingly, Grant is fine, probably. I think Avalonian lances are the jobber weapon beamsabers stopped being after Amos showed up and started beheading Knights with one.

Roll a parry for Grant versus 23, add luck if you like.
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>>1214850
>>1214846

Soma was perfectly willing to count joke votes or suggestions and write them straight up.

His players were more than willing to write them.
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>>1214850
It's from Harry Potter, Harry got pissed at Snape getting to be the headmaster after Dumbledore died. I like it because the delivery was pretty hammy.
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Rolled 3 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214851
Use 1 luck
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Rolled 5 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214851
Add 2 luck
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>>1214849

Dice have to get to know you before they start to like you. Thunderbird is an institution and BR is BR.
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Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>1214851
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Rolled 6 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214851
Add 2 Luck
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Rolled 5 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214851
add 2 luck

>>1214849
we've had those two forever, thunders been here since thread 1 and BR has been helping out organizing the tournament by checking the mechs anons have submitted.
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>>1214854
That's why it was entertaining to read, but not experience.
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Rolled 6 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214851
Three luck
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>>1214849
Nah, Wong wasn't bullying you, he just entered that "I'll spare you of the bad destiny of begining with bad rolls by ignoring these and letting you roll again" state of mind in respect to your recent arrival.
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Also two parries for Wyatt. Yes, even with his shield damaged. Fortunately these are basic Pumpkinseed IIs with regular beam rifles and not Gaunt rifles yet.
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>>1214868
pffft. People just took it too seriously. It was more fun to play before everyone got invested.

People are little bitches when they don't have their "best of 3" rolling to let them win by rolling instead of actual planning or anything.
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>>1214850
>kill VarVar

Still salty about him going. Forever shall I be.
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Rolled 8 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214879
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>>1214850
how many times did the MC actually die in that quest? i was reading it in the archives like 2 years ago but stopped near the end of the Water temple training arc
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>>1214869

Damn it man I was going to use that picture at some point.

>>1214854

To be fair it's not like I haven't sometimes done that. Samantha originally wasn't supposed to be a waifu, but the players recognized what was going on with her and went for it anyway and it all turned out well.

>>1214855

I've seen people unironically using that quote to describe Trump replacing Obama, so it's just hilarious to me.
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Rolled 6 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214879
the luck is really weird tonight.
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Rolled 8 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214879
Praise be to tiny buckler!
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>>1214874

This, basically.
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Rolled 1 (1d10)

>>1214897
It's easy, just give up all hope and all will be well.

And if it isn't, well you didn't hope anyway so it doesn't matter.
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>>1214861
>BR is BR
That's one way to say it.
Love you bb but Megumin is only barely better than Aqua.

>>1214882
Honestly even I got a little salty at how he did crits though. Like, on a nat 30 Mik got a small bonus to teaching and nature. On a nat 3? He literally dies and now the gods are going to hunt him down and murder him.

They totally should've killed the kid though. Guess that was another one of those IRC shitfests.
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>>1214884
Wasn't he the dragon we raised after we stole his egg?
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Rolled 3 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214907
the dice don't like quitters
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Rolled 3, 3, 7 = 13 (3d10)

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>>1214850
As the QM of that quest I can say the IRC was actually pretty good
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>muh irc boogeyman
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>>1214887
None?

That's why you specc into healing ASAP.
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>>1214893
deleted it for ya, senpai.
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>>1214911
u wot?
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>>1214893
Aye, Harry potter quotes have been popular ammongst those circles. Though considering Trump has made more progress than Obama in his first 100 days makes those lines feel comical. Apparently the debt went down 12 billion in the first month.
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>>1214887
Just once, on a nat 3.
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>>1214930
Polite request that we not get into political shit here? That's the sort of shit that instantly sets people off on both sides, and we don't need to drag the quest down with people getting throwing fits about who's poster boy is better.
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>>1214925
>none
>faggot didn't even read the quest
top wew
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Alright scalawags, nobody died yet, feed me 1d10+13s for YOUR attacks and do it with feeling!
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Rolled 2 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214948
Fine, woo go team
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Rolled 2 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214948
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Rolled 5 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214948
>shining finger quote here
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I still don't know who the hell we're fighting.

>>1214879
Wait, are they using the dinky 3K ones?
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Rolled 4 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214948
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Rolled 2 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214948
Ahh, what the hell. BURN EM DOWN! +1 luck for EXPLOSIVES!
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>>1214954
>>1214955
>>1214956
>>1214958
We don't have feeling apparently.
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>>1214850
fuck off rob
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>>1214948
dakka dakka dakka
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I said with feeling. Try again. The dice absolutely hate you guys tonight.

I'll only take dice responding to this post.
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Rolled 8 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214948
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Rolled 10 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214965
The dice want the other combatants to get to shine by saving these three
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Rolled 2 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214965
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Rolled 2 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214965
This hand of mine glows with an awesome power!

Its burning grip tells me to defeat you!

TAKE THIS!

MY LOVE, MY ANGER, AND ALL OF MY SORROW!

SHINING FINGER!
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>>1214965
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Rolled 6 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214965
MAY THE DICE GODS BLESS ME!!
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>>1214941
This isn't tg. Say what you will and with merit, not feelings. We have said worse in older threads and often so if commentary bothers you, I recommend hardening your skin or paying it no mention.
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>>1214917
Oi, as the QM I can call you a faggot.

>>1214850
The IRC wasn't THAT bad, I mean they did help save Mik from that whole "giant hole in reality, realm collapsing, grandmaster meditation" nonsense. Over all, I r8 5/8.

>>1214965
Sorry for shitposting in your thread senpai.
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>>1214965

DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA!
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>>1214977
>the dice gods know I copy pasta'd.
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Rolled 5 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214965
A LITTLE BIT LOUDER NOW
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>>1214971
Acceptable.
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Rolled 5 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214965
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Rolled 8 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214982
>>1214965
derp
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Rolled 1 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1214943
Pfft. That one time didn't count.

>>1214948
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>>1214982

What the fuck did Lockon just do to Tieria in that picture?
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>>1214965
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>>1214981
Do you actually read this Soma?
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>>1215002
No, I just have a sixth sense for when people are talking about the shit I wrote.
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>>1214994
>rolling a 1 trying to tell me I'm wrong
nice try kiddo
>>1214981
hack fraud autistic pedphile pls go, the irc is the puppet master behind you it is known. After all we samefag all votes and do as we please with mik with no regards at all to anons, also we rape horses in Tennessee
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Rolled 6, 3, 7, 8, 6, 3, 3 = 36 (7d10)

>>1214970
>>1214971
>>1214975
>>1214977
>>1214978
>>1214979
>>1214984
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>>1215007
>hack fraud autistic pedphile pls go, the irc is the puppet master behind you it is known. After all we samefag all votes and do as we please with mik with no regards at all to anons, also we rape horses in Tennessee
That was one wild ride.
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>>1214910
>Thunderbird is an institution and BR is BR.
I swear I don't know what to think of it when you guys go "BR is BR", is this a compliment? an insult? How should I react!?

>>1214910
>Aqua
HOW DO YOU DARE COMPARE BEST GIRL WITH THE WORST GIRL!? I'M GOING TO EXPLODE YOU SO HARD FOR IT THAT WHAT IS LEFT OF YOUR MECH WILL HIT FAIRCHILD MANSION ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SYSTEM!
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>>1214998
I think he's gone a bit loopy after the whole 'Setsuna killed my girlfriend' thing.
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>>1215022
Don't you worry about what it means, sweet sweet child.

Your opinion is objectively wrong though.
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Rolled 9 + 11 (1d10 + 11)

>>1215008

Parry versus 24 to reduce burst. Handling this individually because who James attacks depends on how well Alexander does.
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I think I'm just going to take a nap and come back to this tomorrow.

Still though, who is Pike again?
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>>1215008
I can think of no better example of the shitposting from BQ than to point out how much went on in this thread just talking about it.
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>>1215037
I think he's just an officer we've encountered at least once before...
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>>1215036
Parries don't reduce bursts Wong. They reduce crits, but not bursts. If you parry, you get hit by all the bursts.
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Rolled 3, 1, 7 = 11 (3d10)

First off, he autoparries the first burst (-3 shield SP, 5 remaining) The second hits him square, though.

>>1215022

When will you learn to embrace almost all girls as best girls?
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>>1215022
Hey BR, you mind checking this over and updating the Myrmidon's entry in the paste? http://pastebin.com/Fsw185nR
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>>1215044
>best girls
Not every girl can be best if they are then it becomes meaningless
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>>1215050
So be it.

There are no best girls, just good girls.
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>>1215043

I meant to say crit and you know it.
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>>1215044
Not everyone can be Grapple-tan Wong. Expecting them to be is unreasonable.
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>>1215050

Which of Roarke's waifus is your favorite again?
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>>1215066
Karen
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>>1215068
huh she was behind in terms of support last I remember, which is weird considering she's responsible for the design and maintenance of our mech

That said, i'm still a sam fag.
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>>1215056
Sorta. I try not to assume, but it's best to get the misunderstandings out of the way just to be safe. Tourney coming up and don't want someone misreading what works and what doesn't.
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Oh, right, what's the total MV penalty on the Blitz, again?
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>>1215048
I'll get to it as soon I finish the last 2 loadouts of the Walkure...

I'm seriously reflecting here about what to do for the Missile pod called "LOVE, ANGER AND SORROW"....

Maybe I will make it blast...
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>>1215076
-4
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>>1215076
-4
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>>1215074
>no love for grapple-chan

Fucking heretics these days.
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>>1215074
Karen has gotten all kinds of shit for no reason during the entirety of this quest.
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>>1215083
One day rise and take her rightful place, brother. Until then we have to wait.
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Okeedokee. Give me a 1d10+18.
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>>1215083
she's in a class of her own anon, the waifu war (whats left of it) is for second place.

>>1215084
yeah... guess we have weird tastes.
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Rolled 3 + 18 (1d10 + 18)

>>1215090
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>1215079
>1215076
>-4
Hey Wong I just got a great idea, remember that panel from Berserk?
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Rolled 5 + 18 (1d10 + 18)

>>1215087
One day she'll rise, that is.

>>1215090
>+18
Wat. Is Mai aiming?
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>>1215084

Have you noticed how it all seemed to vanish when we came to /qst/ and people couldn't samefag anymore?
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Rolled 6 + 18 (1d10 + 18)

>>1215090
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Rolled 3 + 18 (1d10 + 18)

>>1215090
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Rolled 1 + 18 (1d10 + 18)

>>1215090
Is she using luck? If not, have a +2.
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>>1215097
Ya, it was so much easier when I could....I mean ya its a good thing people can't samefag anyone more to hurt Karen
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>>1215097
ID's are really fuckin useful. don't know why more boards don't have them
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>>1215077
At the very least, update the pastebin link so that Wong has the right one and copy the contents over. The entry you've currently listed is incredibly out of date.
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>>1215094
There is that. The Blitz does a 9K Ram when it moves with both actions. 10 if you use 2 MA from the booster. The funny part is that it would only ablate 1 armor unless it had been shot at a lot.
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>>1215097
Now that you mention it, yeah. I haven't really noticed anything truly nasty towards her after the move since I've been rereading the quest.
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>>1215108
Done
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>>1215114
Yes but then imagine Finn on top using the Blitz to zoom him close so he could cut a mech in half
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>>1215123
Thank You.
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>>1215124
>Ram
>Finn jumps off and finishes the job
Nice. It would scratch the paint pretty badly though.
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>>1215124
Thunderbird, how does the idea of a even faster machine that could take a group of Finn's melee buddies straight to combat sound to you? Because I might have worked on something similar a while ago.
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>>1215136
Does it look like a giant Long ship?
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Rolled 10, 4 = 14 (2d10)

>>1215095

Yes, for the torso.

>>1215098
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>>1215129
I meant more exactly what happened in the panel, using the speed to add force to the swing.
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>>1215143
If he's still at +11, and she's using AP, he's dead then.
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>>1215095

Wait, I fucked up, her bonus should actually be higher. She's spending six luck and has been aiming for a while now.

Which means even on a 10 she hits. Even with a penalty for a called shot.
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>>1215139
It certainly looks like a shuttle, and some paint and designing could make it look like a ship. The idea was to equip a megaheavy mechrider with wings, slightly less armor, a reactive shield, and the biggest thrusters possible alongside a rentry package. Enter orbit, exit orbit. All is good for this!
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>>1215145
Oh, I don't read Berzerk so I didn't know.
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>>1215152
No big deal
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>>1215146

I thought her big cannons were beam-based, including the sniper loadout?
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>>1215119
Stupid cunt short term memory worst girl inferior human cuckqueen slut bitch.

Think that about covers it?
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>>1215157
No, the sniper's a projectile gun.

I actually fucked up too though, if he has Heavy Striker armor the cannon's 1K short of one shotting his torso. Forgot Pumpkinseeds use it HS.

Now I want to change that. Damn it.
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>>1215157
Loadout 4 uses a projectile gun, it's the sniper loadout iirc.

it has the following as ammo options: AP: (4 Clips, 14.4 CP), Tracer: (4 Clips, 10.8 CP), Disruptor: (1 Clip, 3.6 CP), Scattershot: (1 Clip, 4.5 CP)
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Rolled 4 + 11 (1d10 + 11)

>>1215008

Parry versus 23 and the Kusanagi.

Also, the Captain IS A-class, but his mech has a -4 MV and his shield has -1.
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Rolled 6 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>1215169
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>>1215157
>>1215165
Actually, guess I should just post it. Here's the full sniper kit.

(Head Mounted) Thunderclap Gamma: WA 0, 10K, 6,050 Meter Range (125% Range), Long Range, 6 shots per Clip, 5 Tons, 1 Space, 15 Space Efficiency, 22.5 CP (Base 15 CP)
(Each Clip takes up 1 Space, all 9 in Head) AP: (4 Clips, 14.4 CP), Tracer: (4 Clips, 10.8 CP), Disruptor: (1 Clip, 3.6 CP), Scattershot: (1 Clip, 4.5 CP)
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>>1215174
Actually, I HAVE to change it. 1 SE too many.

Well, eh. Fuck it.

>>1215123
Loadout 4 should be .5 CP cheaper.
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>>1215169
Kusanagi strong.
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>>1215162

Worse, his Morgan II has nonstandard Medium Weight armor (Morgan II versus Warmouth is weird statwise because it boils down to "do you want a Bahamutcorp frame or a Bucephalus one", because they're virtually all customs these days so most DO have both Medium Weight armor which comes standard on the Warmouth and independent flight capability that comes standard on the Morgan II)
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>>1215181
Kusanagi's my masterpiece. :D
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>>1214981
>>1215006

kike >>>/out/
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>>1215180
And I named the sniper the same thing as the gun on the Max Armor Loadout.

I went over this thing 20 times. How did I miss both.

>>1215184
Well, his torso's down to 3K then. That can't feel good.
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>>1215195

Wrong again, because it took a hit to the torso from the Libra already that dinged its armor.
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>>1215204
So he is dead then? That's good.

I don't know what I'm going to do about the gun though. I made it specifically to use AP ammo to core Pumpkinseed IIs or knock limbs of Medium Weight Mechs with Light Heavy Armor, and it's 1K short of doing either. Now it's pretty crap, and I don't know how I fucked up that simple math.
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>>1215211
Personally, Karen and Sam are tied for best girl, then Fatima, then Rosita and Clemmy, then Lori. The rankings are all pretty close though, I'm fond of them all and dislike none of them.
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>>1215215
hey if their torso is at 1K they'll probably just eject and surrender.
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>>1215215
I dunno, it looks like it can rip the arm off of a SOUL class mech with no issue.
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>>1215217
Rosita
Fatima
Clemmy
Sam
Karren
Lori


>>1215221
New SOUL mechs like the Mustang are Medium Weight though (being based off the Thoroughbred MP) and probably use Light Heavy Armor. Since we round armor up, the limb would have 4 SP of armor and the calc for that would be:
Arm: 7K + 4 SP - 10K = 1K
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>>1215230
The armor is rounded down instead, so yeah, OHK on their servos, have fun.
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>>1215217

Clemmy
Sam
Rosita
Fatima
[Power gap]
Lori
Karen
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>>1215237
Well... doesn't make sense but I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Can you change the Gamma in the sniper loadout to Delta for me please?
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>>1215249
Done.

>>1215211
Hey Wong, do you care about centesimals? is it a problem if a mech is 0.09(String of random numbers) over the CP cost?
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>>1215262
Thanks.
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Rolled 1 + 12 (1d10 + 12)

Wyatt's making two three-shot bursts with his missiles. First one gets autoparried. Second is versus 18.
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>>1215217
[spoilers]Lori/Fatima
Clemmy
Karen/Red Siren
Sam
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>>1215262

No, but how do you even accomplish that?
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>>1215272
If you highlight text then press ctrl+s it automatically spoilers it.
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>>1215270
[EXPLOSION NOISES]
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>>1215262
just remove a stereo system if it has one.

>>1215217
Sam
Clemmy
Fatima
Red/Karen
Lori
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>>1215273
Missile calculations can get VERY fractional.
Problem solved though, found a better alernative.

>>1215278
Wait... Seriously? THANKS BRO!
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Oh yeah, BR Anon, Buddyanon here. Decided to try my hand at going through mecha creation again and adjusted Buddy a bit for fun.

Added Heavy Striker Servos and a Medium Striker Shield in exchange for one katar and the interservo link.

So far, this is what I got: http://pastebin.com/L6DjceLV

Just need to know if I'm doing the math right while I try to figure out what to spend the last 8 points on.
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Grant is on the verge of opening fire when, abruptly, the grey Deuce beats him to it. The Captain fires at the same moment, both of them aiming for the Libra at the back of the pack. The knife-winged ranged mech easily avoids the mass shells, but the grey UJCIDF mech puts a shot right in the center of his mass, perfectly efficient (-1 torso SP, 3 remaining)

Still, Alexander Grant is the real deal, and he doesn't let himself get distracted. Those little beam guns might be more accurate, but the lances are the real threat. Glowing tracer rounds fly across space like miniature stars in two precise, three-shot bursts. Just as he'd predicted, the Morgan II's shield is automated, a fancier version of the ones the Pumpkinseed IIs have, automatically shifting into place. The bullets dent and deform it (-3 SP, 5 remaining). The second volley hits clean, tagging the head (-1 SP, 5 remaining), torso (-1 SP, 5 remaining), and left arm. (-1 SP, 5 remaining).

Suddenly, a huge shell hits the Morgan II in the back, buckling its armor and exploding against its mechanical frame. (-1 SP, -5K, 4 and 2 remaining) as it dodges away from the Lightning's flying kick. The hit sends it spinning on its axis, missing one blow of the Lightning's mighty blade, but the second slices it cleanly open, the cockpit ball barely avoiding getting thoroughly bisected.

“Hey Al.” The Lightning swivels its head around to keep the Libra and grey Pumpkinseed II in view, “Do you think these guys intended to challenge us to an honorable three-on-three? I mean, should I be angry or grateful someone stepped in? I haven't really had to fight a crowd in a mech in a while, so...”

“Well, whatever their intentions, they never actually challenged us and assaulted us with dirty tricks from the beginning. Justice is clearly on our side, Jim. I'd say grateful is best.”

The Lightning hails the Ugly Ex, his voice ringing out over the PA, “Hey-ho! Whoever shot that, if you're a cute girl you're getting kissed when I come back! Don't go anywhere! If you're a guy, I'll buy you a beer!” He flashes the thumbs-up that makes all the girls on California Station go wild, with the poise of an arena champion.

Safe in the cockpit of her tank, Mai's heart beats faster and her face turns bright red. She's a tough girl, but...but this situation isn't what she's used to! This isn't fair to her at all! She furiously digs around under the seat for a mint, pops it into her mouth, and vigorously chomps on it. Even if he's being much too forward, she can't back down! She can't lose her tough attitude! Besides, it...it isn't like she's committing to kissing him. It's just in case he's cute too! That's right! A girl should be prepared! She's not committing to not punching him either!

[Continued]
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>>1215295
I'm kinda glad Io Fleming's a ugly bastard now.
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Rolled 8 (1d10)

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Rolled 9, 2 = 11 (2d10)

>>1215309

Well, I can't ignore a player's tastes and it could be funny, who do you like better?

>>1215311

Interesting.
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>>1215325
Between who?
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>>1215325
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>>1215325
That word fills me with fear.
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Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>1215325
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>1215327

Well, if you don't like Mai shipped with James, who do you like better? Victor and Akai is sort of inevitable and Alexander and Kathrine is my favorite, but I'm not too adamant on the rest.
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>>1215340
Oh, never thought about shipping beyond Mai and James not making sense. Give me a little bit to look at the characters I guess.
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>>1215290
Hmm, thinking about it, I could spend those last 8 points on weight efficiency to get me to 39 tons...or I could take that and put it into Heavy Striker Armor for more defense...

Decisions, decisions...
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All this shipping confuses me, I thought they were just player submitted NPC's But hey why not, lets ship all the available females with males and then start looking into potential traps for those who are willing.
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>>1215340
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>>1215290
Buddy, hope you don't mind, but I took some time to look over your math. It looks good until you get to your weapons. Your vibro-katar should take up 5 Spaces, your bazooka should only be 4 spaces and have a range of 400m, and I have no clue how you got your CP or Spaces for your beam gun. A 6k, WA+2, BV 2 beam weapon should have a base cost of 20.25. Even if you round that up to 20.3, that would give you 7 space efficiency that you then bought, which should leave it at 14 Spaces, not the 12 it currently is.
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>>1215364
>Lets all start shipping peoples ncps with each other
How about no.
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>>1215364
they are player submitted npc's but wongs trying to characterize them a bit, relationships help with that.
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>>1215369
Hmm, will have to take a look at it and update as it goes along, because I copied that from the Space Jam pastebin.

Which means, I have to check them hard again.
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>>1215359
>inb4 I discovering somethig wrong about it and we going full autistical about that.

>>1215364
who is still single? there isn't many women in this tourney, you guys must hurry!
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>>1215340
Katherine.
Love you Valkyrie anon ;P

I've never been big on romance in fiction or real life, so none would probably be what I would go with. But if I had to choose, and Thunder's OK with it, Finn. His mech's larger and heavier than most, so it makes sense. That's really all the reason I can come up with beyond just romancing Thunder's character.
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>>1215379
Oh, it's already getting there right now as I'm scrambling to figure out >>1215369
again.
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>>1215364
Wong was the one who shipped Alex and Kathrine and I thought it was cute because Kathrine deserves love. The rest of these ships make no difference to me.
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>>1215380
I don't mind, but I would like to see how Wong writes them interacting first before I make a concrete decision.
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The purple Pumpkinseed II doesn't fuck around either “Alright, you little shit! You won't come out of there, I'M COMING IN!” It fires twice, high-precision shots pegging the Pharcyde's torso (-1 SP, 4 remaining) and left arm (-1 SP, 4 remaining), “Fucking standard-issue popguns! What did you do with my real gun!?”

“I SOLD IT FOR THIS PAINTJOB AND THE PARTS I NEEDED!” The Pharcyde booms in response.

“Parts?” There's a sudden vidcomm request, and out of sheer curiosity both Grant and McClintock hit accept at once. Wyatt doesn't. Wyatt already knows the expression on the other side of the screen, where a short but well-muscled woman in her late twenties with olive skin and an expression so murderous that it's gone beyond angry and into dead-eyed rage is getting out a thick, leather belt, “Parts.” If she wasn't in a pilot suit, anyone looking could see the tribal, interlocking pattern of sharks tattooed onto her upper arms, shoulders, and back and might also comment that her formal UJCIDF uniform is supposed to have sleeves. Also that the legs of her uniform pants have been cut off practically from the hip, “Alright, kid. That deal with your dead grandpa? It's off. I'm going to kill you, and this time I really mean it. What did you do with my me-”

“THIS, WRETCHED JAILKEEPER.” The Pharcyde levels its missile launcher in its left hand, firing a controlled burst of three, pausing for a heartbeat and reorienting, then firing another burst. Wyatt knows how a Pumpkinseed II's shield AI works, he's Jovedamn Wyatt. As expected, the shield angles for optimum deflection and takes all three shots (-3 SP, 5 remaining), but that knocks it high, and the next three slip in low and slow. Explosions ring out, silent as the blossoming of flowers in the inky void, glowing petals of light searing the void. The Pumpkinseed II contorts its body to try and avoid it, but one missile hits its left knee (-1 SP, -2K, 4 and 3 remaining), then its torso (-1 SP, -2K, 4 and 6 remaining), and finally...one shot cracks the glass covering its sensor core, causing a surge of feedback from the missile strike that overloads the core and blinds it as its AI scrambles to adjust and reform the picture.

“THUS ALWAYS DO TYRANTS FALL, UNMOURNED AND UNHERALDED!” Wyatt proclaims with a hint of vindictiveness.

The grey Pumpkinseed II does an undignified dive to grab the Captain's cockpit ball in one arm and the shoulder armor of the purple Pumpkinseed II in the other, starting to fly away.

>[Let it go]
>[Shoot at it]
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>>1215387
That's actually a good idea. I'm fine with it.
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>>1215369
>>1215377
>>1215379
>>1215381

Yep, my math was off. Will pastebin again.
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>>1215388
>[Let it go]
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>>1215388
Oh shit, that's a Remy!
>[Let it go]
Silver boy is withdrawing and too quiet. Best to let them withdraw.
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>>1215388
>[Shoot at it]
Nah nah nah! WE'RE TAKING YOU WITH US!
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Rolled 4 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1215388
Burn what is left of his luck(+4?) in this missile shot, fire 5 missiles.
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>>1215390
http://pastebin.com/xMbJHAjf

Here we go. Also, if someone can check whether adding heavy striker armor would be under 140 CP, that would be great.
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Rolled 5 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1215388
>[Shoot at it]
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>>1215408
Upping the armor would increase the cost by 6 CP and the weight by 3 Tons.
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>>1215388
>[Let it go]

>>1215390
Also, just a general organization for ease of reading on your weapons would be nice.
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>>1215388
>[Let it go]

Im sure Wyatt would appreciate NOT spending the rest of the trip three feet from an ass beating.
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>>1215388
>[Shoot at it]
You gotta think like a pirate, and steal that shit! Plus it would allow prolonged character interaction.
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>>1215400
BR, do not shoot at retreating foes who have cockpits in their hands. Being a cop killing who shot them as they fled is pretty damn bad rep.
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>>1215408
Also, if you want advice, since I made the Blitz I have to say give it heavier armor. But if you found some way to reduce the cost by 1.8 CP, you could get your MV down to -3. It's up to you to decide what you want more.
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>>1215417
They can't kick your ass from inside a cockpit ball!
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>>1215408
upping to heavy striker would increase base cp cost by 6 and increase frame weight by 3 tons, which would put you over 140 cp if you wanted to keep the same MA as you have now due to increased thruster costs.

you could probably make one servo's armor heavier than the others and still be within 140, like light heavy on the torso for example.
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>>1215420
>>1215426
Actually now that anon points it out, it is a little dicey for accidental fragging purposes... I change to
>[Let it go]
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>>1215388
>[Let it go]
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>>1215413
>>1215434
>>1215428
I'll have to give that some consideration, then.

>>1215414
How would you like it organized?
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>>1215430
you really want to test that theory?
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>>1215437
Just everything in the same order for each entry. Right now I have to look in 3 different places for the CP cost depending on which armament I'm looking at. Your WA is also in different spots between your two Handheld weapons.
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>>1215462
Bleh, me and my train of thought.

Will do, after I figure out some things.
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>>1215437
I'll post an example of how I lay mine out. It might help

(Head Mounted) Thunderclap Gamma: WA 2, 8K (1K Structure), 550 Meter Range, Fragile, 0.5 Tons, 4 Spaces, 14 Space Efficiency, 25 CP (Base 18 CP)

It always goes: WA, Kills, Range, any modifiers like Fragile or Quick or AP, Weight, Spaces, Space Efficiency, Total Cost, Base Cost.
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>>1215437

Do it like I do it.
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Okay, Walkure is done, who is next?

>>1215480
Myrm or Chimera? Choose.
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>>1215487
Myrmidon for SPARTA!
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Wyatt hesitates. Yes, he could end her wickedness forever, as far as caretakers go she's nowhere near a responsible adult or a decent parent, but...on the other hand, he owes her just a little, and watching her shriek and thrash and smack the walls of her cockpit with that belt is satisfying in its own way. He, for one, is sure he's never going to forget that look on her face.

“I can reach him.” McClintock guarantees, preparing to do just that.

“NO. LET THEM GO. LET THEIR HUMILIATION LINGER, AND LET THEM ANSWER TO THEIR WICKED MASTERS. THEIR PUNISHMENT WILL BE MORE CRUEL THAN ANYTHING WE CAN DEVISE.” Wyatt speaks into his carefully modulated comms system, making his teenage voice far more impressive than it regularly is, “WE'RE HERE TO ESCAPE THAT SYSTEM, BROTHERS, NOT RECREATE IT.”

“Amen, brother.” McClintock replies, then he adds, “Hey, the way that girl was talking to you...”

“Yes, indeed, that raises quite a few questions.” The Libra pops up on the other side of the Pharcyde, arms crossed, “Because it seemed an awful lot like a preexisting relationship outside the usual bounty-hunter-and-target norms.” Alexander Grant's voice is suspicious.

“Uh-huh. That's your ex-wife, right? Crazy, I know the type. Yeah, don't see what you ever saw in her at all.” McClintock suggests with exaggerated casualness, “Definitely not my cup of tea, no sir. I'll just, uh...if you've got the number for her PC, I'll just take it, that way if you need to pick up some furniture or something from her I'll be able to do it but you, my friend, you will be spared the awful temptation of calling her at 3AM hoping for a booty call. That's a dark road to go down, and while I'm not saying I know the feeling or anything as your friend I'm here to help you with it anyway. So, her name's Mako, right? What's she into? Mixed martial arts? Jazz? Pit fighting? Stubby the Shetland?”

“FIREARMS, ALCOHOL, AND VIOLENCE.” Wyatt goes to cut comms, then pauses, “WAIT, WHY IN PLUTON IS A GROWN-ASS MAN WATCHING STUBBY THE SHETLAND?”

[Continued]
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>>1215480
Oh, before I forget, this...
>[Torso Mounted]「UNLIMITED FIST WORKS」Range 300m, WA +3, 3K, 20 Shots, 15 CP, 6 Spaces, 2 ton.
... Are flying armored fists filed with a rocket for maximum propulsion.

Ever needed a third hand when you are holding your enemy with your other two? Why be content with just one when you can have TWENTY!?

I want to missile spam that ROCK with this...
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“It's quality programming. You like Stubby too, right Al? Al...?” The Lightning turns its head, then pauses. The Libra is staring through the viewport to the Ugly Ex's bridge.

He flies up alongside him, and gazes down...into a scene from a nightmare. The bodies of the ship's captain and bridge officers are strewn across the floor, some in pieces. A lone man, handsome and fit with no shirt on, just a broadsword in his hands and a broad-brimmed hat on his head, only one eye visibly gleaming in the shadows beneath. The man looks up, aware of their presence, and hits a few buttons to assert control of the comms. In proper light, his hair color is much darker than it looked before, a sandy-reddish shade.

“Ho, stranger. This is Bodvarsson's ship now, and Bodvarsson's ship aided you. Do not make promises to kiss the women aboard Bodvarsson's ship before him, or despite your valor Bodvarsson shall open you like a purse.” He lifts his sword, and makes a gesture like cutting a human being from neck to groin. Despite Alexander and James being in mecha, there isn't even a trace of fear in Finn's singular eye. Then he smiles.

[Continued]
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>>1215520
>“WAIT, WHY IN PLUTON IS A GROWN-ASS MAN WATCHING STUBBY THE SHETLAND?”
HEY! Classic era Stubby is damn wonder to Sol!
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>>1215467
Alright, decided on a mixed armor system...and to actually move the damn storage system somewhere else, because it's taking up too much torso space and I can't stand having unequal amounts of thrusters on any limb.

http://pastebin.com/0y8dFSSU
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>>1215523
It really is Thunderbird.
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>>1215523
well, this day just keeps getting better, doesn't it?
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>>1215523
Why I'm not even surprised?

He reminds me of the type of character trap-kun uses to play, huh.... Crazy and Bloodthirsty.

But seriously? He had to kill EVERYONE!? Why!? Thats just overdoing it! Who is going to occupy the other stations on the bridge while he drives? Now he even has to bother with piloting it!
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>>1215523
Wow, way to be a dick and claim all the women for himself.

Mai better deck him in the schnozz.
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>But seriously? He had to kill EVERYONE!? Why!?
its thunderbird, what do you expect?

also... so is mai gonna end up being his Seras?
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>>1215540
Why not kill everybody?
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>>1215544

Mai's creator hinted that she wouldn't mind.

>>1215540

Two points.

1. Thunder

2. These are the people who were probably in on the actual betrayal.
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>>1215555
Wong, i swear, you get all the gets
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>>1215555
These numbers proove the veracity of his comment.
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>>1215540

>
But seriously? He had to kill EVERYONE!? Why!? Thats just overdoing it! Who is going to occupy the other stations on the bridge while he drives? Now he even has to bother with piloting it!

It really is thunderbird! He kills, he seduces and he doesn't think things through.

Which is why we love him.
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>>1215555
Uh, well, I guess I'm kinda biased because I'm like this in real life, but I imagined a mech pilot (who like you've said are sort of like super fighter pilots) like Mai wouldn't take shit from people. Like being the uber douche to end all uber douches. Or being legitimately insane.
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>>1215555
I just rather liked how flustered Mai got when McClintock said he'd kiss her and wanted their thing to keep going.
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>>1215560
Also, i cannot into greentext today, damnit.
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I think we could stand to wait for the rest of the competitors to be available before we go heavy on shipping
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>>1215544
You sure that wouldn't just make him more into her? I mean shieldmaiden's and Valkyries were a thing.
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Landing doesn't take long. James makes an unwise comment to Mai about her shooting being pretty good 'for a Martian' and gets punched hard enough for him to avoid commenting on the fact that she has a tank. She stalks away in a huff. Tanks are better than men, she tells herself, tanks don't say stupid things to ruin her good mood. She'll show them all at the tournament.

Alexander isn't nearly as shocked by Wyatt's true appearance as James is. He saw the belt earlier and made some guesses that McClintock had been too busy looking at Sergeant Mako Nunez's chest to cogitate on. The three men trade fistbumps once James' shock wears off. Despite his age, Wyatt's still proved he's got the chops for this job. No respect lost.

The JSS Pullo sends its remaining mecha out to gather all the survivors that haven't directly been taken prisoner, then retreats. It had been hiding behind an asteroid with a charged microgate projector waiting for the Ugly Ex to come here and summon the pirate ship, and can easily fold space back to Jupiter. Luckily, nobody is there to see the colossal shouting match between Captain Pike and Sergeant Nunez, both of them feeling 100% justified and that the other is a complete idiot for losing to this group of ragamuffins.

Eventually, the Heavy Cruiser Yamato arrives, and a flight of Storm Dragons personnel with it, taking control of the bridge and, under the direction of Finn waving his bloody sword around, forming up with the transport Red Siren's people came on and, some hours later, setting off for Auditorium.

Somewhere along the way, Alexander and Kathrine end up sitting together by a viewport, watching the stars go past. True to her own word to herself, she's quiet for a while, trying and failing to pretend she's busy with her phone. He, too, doesn't say anything, for very similar reasons. He barely knows her, what he did was what anyone with moral fiber should do. Her shoulder brushes against his, and like a match being drawn across a striking surface, something fragile and warm blossoms between them.

“I...when we get back, I'll probably have to go straight to work. There's a lot to do, even before training for the tourney.” Kathrine says, almost in a whisper.

“I have to train too.” Alexander admits.

“But...we both have to eat, right?” Kathrine looks up at him. This is among the bravest things she's ever done.

“Everyone does, you and me too.” Alexander replies, wondering why his tongue feels so heavy yet so easily twisted.

“So then, I suppose if...” She hesitates.

“If we ate together sometime?” He suggests.

“Y-yes. If you're sure you want to. I wouldn't be offended if you didn't.” The stars are reflected in her eyes. Alexander is able to pick out a familiar constellation, or what looks a lot like it, in them.

Danger and profit indeed.

“I'd like that.” He tells her, quietly but sincerely, without any frills or ornamentation.

And so the night moves on.
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>>1215562
Too bad Mai's creator said no... TT ^ TT
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>>1215567
I ship this.
>>1214609
Have a gift
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>>1215582
Even if I understand a character was made with the intent of being as douchey as possible, that doesn't mean I'm going to not dislike him being a douche.
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>>1215580
Good for Alex. Take it next time we see Roarke and the final events leading up to the festivities?
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>>1215583

Hey, remember what I said about spamming pictures of other people's characters?
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Ok time for bed, good night everyone.
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>>1215586

That's right.

>>1215562

It was at the idea of being kissed in general. Not specifically at being kissed by McClintock.
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>>1215587
Sorry.... I just thought that it wouldn't be a problem if I spoiler it and didn't post many pictures and,,, I'm sorry, I just stumbled upon this image online and didn't really think much before posting >.<

My bad, I'll stop now.
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Game itself resumes WEDNESDAY. Tomorrow/later today, I might post some stuff, though.
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>>1215580

Hey Wong, was that a (continued) or a >good night, see you tomorrow?
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>>1215591
Fair enough.

What's on the agenda for next time?
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>>1215580
>The stars are reflected in her eyes. Alexander is able to pick out a familiar constellation, or what looks a lot like it, in them.
>Danger and profit indeed.

Cute and Epic.
Thanks for running Wong, it was as good as always, you're incredible.
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>>1215591
Good to hear. Get to see the last few entrants, tie up some loose ends, and make sure we know what we have going into it.
>>1215593
Before you leave, what sort of propaganda posters do you want? Got some ideas, but narrowing it down helps. Hope ya like them.
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>>1215593
I guess I'm being really unfair since I did tell you you could do what you wanted with the character. I feel bad about it, and I apologize. From now on I'm not going to say anything about what you're doing with Mai.

It's just that I don't think any pilot would take being directly insulted or make themselves deal with a person with a seriously grating personality or, like that anon said earlier, "claimed." Everyone pilots giant robots/vehicles with weapons that have the power to kill them many times over, it seems like that would make people decide to not just take stuff lying down, you know?

Anyway, sorry again. I'm being a fag, I know.
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Good on ya, Alex.
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I challenge you guys to guess what strategical value each of Walkure's missiles have for Akai based on their names and descriptions.

The one who gets more closer gets a prize in-game if Wong is okay with it.
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>>1215780
Getting shot up by A.M.S. Except for unlimited fist works which is clearly there for the more heavily armored mechs. As my prize, I'd like you to finalize my mech before I do something stupid with it, like giving its Torso Medium Striker alpha armor. http://pastebin.com/HUtX5W9U
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>>1215780
Balance(accuracy leaning), Heavy, artillery/demolition, and swarm.
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>>1215615

McClintock did get punched and Finn was joking (with a pile of bodies around him) about getting to kiss all the girls first. Don't worry about a thing.
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>>1215615
It's fine. I understood that as soon as I submitted McClintock I'd have minimal control of how he act and such. T'was a joke from my last comment.
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>>1215780
>loadout 1
Generalist, with many accurate rockets, one big long-ranged fuck you, and powerful melee weapons.

>Loadout 2
Lots of heavier weapons, to deal with heavier mechs (or maybe deal with soter targets easier). And a cannon instead of missiles, to deal with AMS users?

>loadout 3
Faster, and a small number of big blast missiles, in return for lighter melee weapons. VERY useful to fight lighter melee mechs with shadow images and 11 MA or less.

>loadout 4
Smaller but very accurate cannon, with decent ammo capacity. Also 1 big shot just in case, but rather weak melee weapons. To deal with faster, nimbler mechs, and/or those with AMS's.
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>>1215523
>“Ho, stranger. This is Bodvarsson's ship now, and Bodvarsson's ship aided you. Do not make promises to kiss the women aboard Bodvarsson's ship before him, or despite your valor Bodvarsson shall open you like a purse.”

Welp, Finn now sounds like Rolf in my head.

>"You dare insult the son of a Viking, you stale end piece of bread!? If this were the old country, Bodvarsson would have beaten you with a trout!"
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>>1216030
>Finn was joking (with a pile of bodies around him)
Yeah, the whole butchering everyone thing followed up by your reply to that anons joke made me think he wasn't. The Norse were pretty... fucked up isn't right, but the way they did and thought about things was just way out there.
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>>1216778
That's not a Norse specific thing dude.
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>>1216794
They were way out there compared to most cultures I'm passingly familiar with. For example, stealing was one of the worse things they could do, but killing people and taking there stuff was perfectly fine. There was even a story about it. These 3 guys stole from this older guy and agonized about it for a while because doing so would keep them out of Valhalla, so they went back and killed him and that made it all OK.
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>>1216778
Not everyone is all touchy feely anon. Some people kill their enemies and then go home and sleep like a baby. Especially people who believe they only get to go to heaven if they die in battle.
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>Welp, Finn now sounds like Rolf in my head.

Oh great anon now you've got me thinking it too
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>>1216815
I feel that wouldn't invalidate the crime. Killing the guy then stealing his stuff would be fine, but stealing his stuff then killing him doesn't gel.

Also, being incredibly casual after brutal violence isn't a Norse exclusive thing.
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>>1216940
As long as you manned up and killed him at some point its fine I guess.
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>>1216948
Laaame.
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>>1216955
Hey man, if the other guy was in the right he would have killed the thief instead of getting murdered like a bitch.
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>>1216940
That's another part of why its fucking weird.

But like I said, it's not just that. I thought it was a joke too and then Wong said I'd be fine with it when someone joked about claiming women or whatever and I thought I had misunderstood again.

The thing Thunder said about him liking her for punching him would have been funny. Too bad I fucked that up.
I keep saying it, but I feel like I really do have trouble getting across what I'm actually trying to say. I'm afraid I fucked up Wong thinks I'm butthurt about it. I'm trying really hard to not be That Guy.
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>>1216976
I'm afraid I fucked up *and Wong thinks I'm butthurt about it
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>>1216976
I feel it's a valid concern and Wong has shown he's willing to be flexible. You should be fine.
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>>1216815
The difference is if you kill him its plunder and you deserve his things because you proved you were the better man. Stealing shows that you were to afraid to fight him for it so you had to sneak around and steal it from him proving you were a giant chickenshit, and chickenshits don't get in to Valhalla.
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>>1217111
truly, the viking's were the most badass of people.
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>>1216976

No such thing. Everything is fine. If you don't mind telling me what you DO want to see I'll try to work it in.
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>>1217318
Now I'm curious on what you're gonna do with Walter.

>>1215379
Oh right, one more thing I could put in:
Walter had a waifu...

And if anyone remembered who I had Walter based on...there we go.
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>>1217318
I guess the only thing I'd want is her going on a rant (or whatever you would call it) about how great mobile armor is some time in the future. It doesn't matter to me how long it takes, it could be 5 threads from now and I'd be fine. You'd do a good job writing it, undoubtedly. All of this was either misunderstandings on my part or me not really enjoying shipping. And that's not really helped when everyone's insane and/or children looking at your insane, almost worst girl child, Brazil. I guess we're still doing the Finn ship though?


Her being easily flustered is cute though.

And just to be sure, Brazil said earlier that you round half SPs of armor from AP down. Is that right?
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>>1217409
>And just to be sure, Brazil said earlier that you round half SPs of armor from AP down. Is that right?
Never said that he does that, just that this is what is written in the book, check the AP description.
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>>1217544
I meant "you" in the general sense. I wasn't referring to Wong specifically.
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>>1217409
Also, who is best girl in your opinion? Darkness? Eris? Dude... Even Kazuma admits that Megumin is the less crazy of the whole group. And thats is saying something.
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>>1217559
Darkness man. Washing Board and Water ain't got shit on her.
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>Would let herself become the MC of an orc rape hentai
>Best girl
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>>1217559
Eris best girl
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>>1217572
I enjoy how dedicated she is to her ideals.
Actually she's just the one I like the look of the best :^)
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>>1215842
Only if they roll pretty well in some cases, or if I'm not really interested in spending luck.
I'll give your mech a look eventually, don't worry, but there is people here tonight and would be hard for to review mechas at the moment.

>>1215897
Hmmm... Could be seen that way but not exactly(not really leaning this way when every missile here has +2), Correct, you can do a better answer than this, Not wrong but vague.

>>1216251
>1
Almost a perfect description, but its still low damage for a generalist mecha, as it hardly would damage bigger targets if it doesn't crit.

>2
Perfect, It can one shot most medium striker servos and could possibly wreck even officer mechs... What Cannon?Its just a missile pod.

>3
I knew that people would probably see it that way, but the truth is that I ended up scraping the old anti-shadow imager loadout and made this one mostly for fun, but fluff-wise it was created thinking about group work in mind (Akai prefer more that "punching through swarms of mecha" and "Epic duels" style of fighting, so she doesn't really likes the Idea of sacrificing her missiles for AoE attacks and only would do that when knewing that there would be someone covering for her)

>4
No cannon ... Just missiles, and why do you think that it is more focused on nimbler mechs? You're not wrong per se, but it isn't limited to that.
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all this talk of loadouts makes me want to make an alt load out for the M-Sagister.... but I've already fiddiled with it too much after declaring it done like twice
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>>1217567
>>1217572
>>1217589
>"best girl"
That webm just says everything.

>>1217585
Hmmmm... I understand your point, but I don't know what to think of godesses, they aren't really human after all... So how does you deal with this type of thing in a relationship? To me its seems more reasonable to be with someone who with you can grow side by side in life, not jumping too high to something really cosmically out of your league.
But maybe the best ending would be the harem ending.
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>>1217768
obviously you marry chris then. Since they're the same person.
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>>1217798
Still a godess.
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>>1217315
They actually had a fairly poor to mediocre track record in fighting actual wars. The viking at stanford bridge was cool as fuck though.
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>>1218710

>They actually had a fairly poor to mediocre track record in fighting actual wars. The viking at stanford bridge was cool as fuck though.


There is a pretty simple explanation for that, though. Your average viking was tough as nails, and a viking crew was a hardass band off pirates, pillagers and murderers, but they really lacked organisation beyond that. So when you see the words "viking army of 5.000 men" or similar numbers, it means "20+ different armies of varying strenghts and motives, that all happen to follow the same guy because he has a decent plan/will kill them if they don't". This is not a great form of organisation to wage a war, as has been seen many times throughout history. The only way to make that succeed on a large scale is to have a leader that can hold those forces together and make them work together through sheer force of personality.

Not unlike Admiral Roarke, now that i think about it.
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>>1214965
Did . . . Did the QM just allow everyone to reroll just because y'all got bad dice?

Tell me I'm reading this wrong.
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>>1218861
It's not the first time it's happened.

yeah, it kinda sucks, but I'm not gonna let it ruin the entire quest for me.
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>>1218867
Well shit.

That's pretty disappointing.

Guess I don't have to bother rolling then.
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>>1218872
>That's pretty disappointing.
I know how you feel bro, it makes you wonder if your victory really means something when something like this happens... But Wong is still a very good QM, so I just roll along with it even if it dissapoints every time that happen.
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>>1218918
> Good QM

I'd say he's a good writer. I don't know about a QM that can't handle failure.
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>>1218942
Eh, to be fair these are side characters who have to show up at the big tournament with their robots somehow.

Pretty sure we haven't done it in any actual important fights.
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No, I MADE them reroll for being insufficiently hot-blooded. Obviously.
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>>1218872
>>1218942
We do a first come, first serve system that doesn't use a best of 3 that most settings use, where the only way to improve our very small roll is to call out luck. Said calling out usually doesn't take because many just rush in with the dice roll.
From the very start the dice are a lot more unforgiving than most and this is a side skit and not the main event. So I really don't mind that if we somehow roll a set of 1s where no one even bloody bothered to roll luck because they rushed as usual we get a single reroll while every other quest gets 3 for their dice.
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>>1218972
It's surprisingly easy to forget that we have that pool to supplement our rolls with, especially when there's no reminder that we have it or how much we have left. [s]This isn't a shot at Wong, it's just an unfortunate happenstance of playing online on an imageboard. [/s]
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>>1219001
Two pools even.
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>>1219001
And thats the thing. We are playing a table top game quest when many still think of it as a standard quest. These sort of games aren't usually done by everyone playing one character. Add to the fact that Mekton is pretty lethal and it becomes tougher still.
It's why I consider Wong a mix of a DM and QM. Both have different things to look out for.
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>>1218972

Also if I wanted to fudge things it wouldn't have made sense at that point because, even in a worst-case scenario, you had the Girl Squad for backup and Oda on the way.
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>>1219040
True. It was a victory situation, just due to everything already being tied up. Still, was pretty odd that someone came on here and only complained about the dice rerolls and nothing else.
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>>1218942
This is all for fun and to show off people's characters. Fudging rolls so we succeed and have more fun isn't a bad thing, it's not like Wong rerolls every time something goes wrong.

I mean, this IS a game. We don't have to be super serious and follow the rules to the exact letter or stick to the fall of the dice 100% of the time. Treating it like the most serious thing in the world and nothing else would make any game unenjoyable.
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>>1219059
I dont really care that Wong re-rolled on this, because these are side dudes and they do have to show up with all their shit in order, but I dont really like this attitude. Whats the point of playing a game with dice if you dont follow what they say? If this was actually an important fight and the rolls were fudged to let us win I would start getting a bit butthurt.
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>>1219047
Nah I just posted from work not home.
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>>1219061
Also just because you fail doesn't mean it has to be game over.

Injuries, getting captured, knocked out etc. Are all things that can happen
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>>1219064
To be fair it hasn't really been a problem so far. We have had the good luck to win most of our fights so far and the one time there was no hope we had to run away and we had to hide in the forest and ditch the mechs. Nothing was fudged when rashad almost blew the both of us to hell so I'm not worried about it.
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>>1219061
It can get really frustrating to play a game when you absolutely refuse to fudge dice at all. I once played a D&D campaign (it lasted around 10 months in total) where we did just follow the dice. This one guy that had played tabletops longer than I had (his name was Brian or Brent or something) went for the entirety of the last 3 month of it without hitting a single attack. Bats, dragons, the BBEG's minion (yes, singular.) It didn't matter. He just couldn't hit.

At was a Barbarian and first, then changed to a Paladin when the Barb died so would at least have a use in combat since he couldn't do damage, and for about the last month and a half he used a Ranger so he could dual wield and get two attacks per round, and he still never hit.

It was especially sad at the end, because we could tell it was getting to the climax and we were joking about how the dice would finally go his way and he'd end up killing the Big Bad, but he got locked in combat with a demon the BBEG summoned and never hit him while the rest of us cleared the rest of the minions and ignored his (on his request) to kill the boss, which unsummoned/banished the demon.

That's why I decided fudging dice can be fine some times. If Wong did it all the time, that would be bad, but this was for fun, so there's nothing wrong with it.
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>>1219075
But why fudge it for a Mook battle where as Wong pointed out >>1219040 was already a victory situation?
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>>1219075
Also I think something is seriously wrong with your character if you go 3 months without landing a hit.

Or do you have a habit of slighting old gypsie women?
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>>1219072
Whatever. I'm not thrilled about it happening but it's not worth making a big thing over.

I'll just wait for the fanfic arc to be over and to get back to Roarke
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>>1219078
Because this is JUST for fun.

"OK guys, its time to show off your characters and take a breather from the super high stakes fights on Quil'ir. Oh, they rolled solely 2s and jobbed to mechs with super underpowered weapons and -4 compared to your rolls? Alright then."

Not very fun, yeah?

>>1219080
I remember he was really surprised his Barb couldn't hit, so that made him decide to focus on tanking with the Paladin, and didn't want to leave the party without a tank so went for tanking/dual wielding on the Ranger, so I guess only the Barb was optimized for pure damage. I don't remember the stats.
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>>1219075
I think if you play a game of chance you shouldnt complain when the dice go against you. 3 months straight with no hit sucks but someone somewhere else probably went 3 months landing every single hit. Fudging the bad rolls to let you succeed make the good rolls less satisfactory and important.
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>>1219089
Why bother rolling? That's like arguing I should be mad when my character with under powered weapons one shots a Paladin or something.

Is it only fun when you're winning?
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>>1219087
Supposedly we'll be back to Roarke tonight.
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I can't remember, would the roll in question have destroyed someones torso or something?
ah well I'm just gonna think of this like burning a fate point.
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>>1219089
To clarify

> Not wanting your super cool all caps character to have a nemesis they can't just "Pssh . . . Nothing personnel" even when having the advantages and losing to a comically underequipped foe.

Which really would have been perfect and actually entertaining instead of "And of course your guy is just so cool he outright wins by fiat." Reducing the whole plot of this person being his Javert to more of a "Team Rocket blasting off again!" Joke. Like how am I supposed to take his build up of her as a credible threat seriously now?

When the rolls first came in I was all "Wow we really should have just shot first! She's actually badass." And now I have close to zero interest in seeing that plot develop.
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>>1219108
So that person can't use their Luck any more? That would be fair.
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>>1219111
Although if they did get fucked up they wouldnt really be able to repair their shit so it does make sense to save it.
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>>1219101
Why are you misconstruing what I'm saying so much? Can you really not understand my point? I literally said doing it all the time is bad.

Why should someone be forced to spend the last 3 months of a 10 month campaign just sitting at a table for hours at a time and be unable to participate in the final battle? Why should we treat a section purely for fun and jokes as super serious? We're not playing as Roarke, this really isn't contributing to the game as a whole.

I'm saying we're playing a game to have fun. Part of that fun is beating the odds, yeah, but when the odds essentially make your character a statue or go against you doing something silly to have fun, why shouldn't you fudge them? "It'll ruin the fun" doesn't stack up when you're not having fun in the first place.
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>>1219114
Except luck doesn't work like that, and everyones luck will be restored for the tourney regardless.
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>>1219119
There are no odds if you just fudge the dice. If there is no risk why bother? You'd have a more exciting time playing monopoly.
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>>1219119
You really keep referencing that 3 month dry spell. I think it broke you.

>>1219117
Lucky shot causing malfunction but not a lot of damage that couldn't be repaired. Knocks him out of the fight but the others drive off the opponents.

Like. Fudge the story not the dice.
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>>1219078

The real reason is because people were mad at tripfags and some other quest and the dice responded to it by rolling poorly. They had to get their heads back into the game, and more importantly I thought pretending to scold them for not rolling "with feeling" was funny. It was a joke and there's nothing else to it, regruntle yourself.
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>>1219125
>everyone thinks I'm saying fudge every failure
I suppose it's my fault everyone is misunderstanding my point.
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>>1219129
The big failures are more important than the little ones. Fudging a roll that would have killed someone gets on my tits.
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>>1219127
>people were mad at tripfags and some other quest
People are always mad at tripfags as they should be but I'm honestly not a fan of fudging rolls either failure builds character and makes a story interesting.
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>>1219130
>Fudging a roll that would have killed someone
This is completely unrelated to what I was saying earlier, but killing a NPC made by a player for a tournament before the tournament even started would be OK? Wong has implied that they can die, but killing them now would be stupid.
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>>1219127
So the bad rolls were kept?
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>>1219131
Yeah, i'd be cool with Wong just saying he won't do it again, joke or not.
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>>1219108

No, it's a case of the QM having a joke and it being overanalyzed.
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>>1219134
Pretty sure "getting beaten" can happen without killing someone. "Javert" is now the equivalent of "Goldfish Feces" though.
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>>1219138
So it wasn't a re-roll? That's all you had to say.
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>>1219134
Man no one is even trying to kill anyone here apart from the viking guy. The only risk was getting whupped. If my dude gets trips over his own feet and shoots his own generator out of his chest thats just the way the dice goes. I'd still have a laugh.
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>>1219135
Alright, at this point you really do seem to be doing this to cause shit. You say you drop it, then continue it. Then a bunch of people with fresh ips pop up and complain about it. It seems rather sketchy.
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>>1219138
I didn't actually mind it. Just the idea of it gets on my nerves. I've had the same argument several times back on /tg/.
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>>1219141
OK, I'm being baited then. Neither of these things had anything to do with what orange ID said or what I asked.

Good job, you got me.
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My bait is of only the finest quality.
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>>1219130

This. If I thought it was important those rolls would have stayed as they were. They were player attack rolls, too, not defense rolls that could have gotten someone captured.
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>>1219144
>>1219142
Nah. More so was waiting for an explanation like >>1219147

I mean you guys were defending it being a re-roll.
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Can anyone explain how the ship guns in the Corebook were statted? I've been trying to figure it out for a hour and a half and I just can't.

Also, what the fuck were they thinking hot having port and broadside weapons on ships? That's like having a PB&J without peanut butter.
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>>1219154
You should probably use the scaling rules in the ATM instead.
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>all this arguing about dice but no one is sending starving children in Africa their bad dice

Fucking selfish pricks I tell you hwat.
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>>1219153
Yes, because relying solely on luck in a system that is more strategy based is a bad idea. I have given my reason before and you side stepped it to keep pushing, using other angles than refuting the point. You are not arguing in good faith.
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>>1219156
That's what I've been trying to do. But whether I use Corvette or Starship scale, I can't figure out how they got the stats like they are. A starship scale 1K beam gun would have 5 times the range of the Medium Battery and cost about 400 CP less, and a Corvette Scale 10K beam gun would have ~1000 meters more range and cost about 700 CP less unless I'm missing something huge.
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>>1219142

It's sketchier that he started with y'all and "the QM" when normally everyone calls me Wong.
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>>1219162
You use strategy to counter the possibility of things going bad. Not the other way around.

In other words: Your strategy should be planned for the possibility of bad dice rolls. Dice shouldn't be re-roll to make your plans work.

I said it twice because I think you're simple.
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>>1219165
I figured he just decided to read a random thread and then decided to troll by ignoring what people are arguing from there.
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>>1219165
You're too used to namefags. I did only start posting when the last Amos arc ended and haven't really interacted much because all the "offscreen" stuff has been about people making Mechs for the competition lately.

Sort of hard to jump in at that point.

Besides, what's wrong with y'all?
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Honestly I have no idea why this quest got all these namefags?
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>>1219168
Nah just BR fags ranting about his friend he wants to suck off but can't because he has a rich GF was better than the whole fanfic arc.

Or at least more relatable.
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7/10
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>>1219175
Propably so people know who made what mech, I might namefag just for the upcoming tourney and then drop it after if Wong has us rolling for them.

Also, pot, kettle.
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>>1219180
Does that say it's corrupted for anyone else but still it's playing?
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>>1219180
Did you watch Trumps address to Congress last night? Nice to see a united Congress that can finally get things done.
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>>1219175
Autism levels became super focused when the tournament thing started. Stopped cluttering the quest in other ways though.
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>>1219169
Schizophrenia
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>>1219182
>Also, pot, kettle.
I know but still
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>>1219186
4/10 the first was tangentially related
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>>1219166
Except part of the strategy is allocating luck and MV to alleviate those bad rolls. Which cannot be done efficiently due to the nature of a quest format. Likewise, it is difficult to do most strategies because it requires a consensus which usually goes to the simplest path.Mind you, we showed some good strategy in the Amos line with planning the Dam attack, the flooding, and all that came from it. Either way, we use a very simplified system compared to how mekton is done and that does come at the cost of strategy and complexity used to balance the dice. Now are done with the ad hominum, or should I repeat what I posted before that you seemed to have missed?
>>1219175
..Thunderbird, you were our initial name fag. Pretty sure you opened up pandora's box.
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>>1219193
Grappling hooks are silly in space combat. Magnetic netting would be better.
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>>1219198
Q/Tomato You're shit talking best waifu Grapple-tan.
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>>1219197
I mean I did it because I was doing the mixtape thing, and by the time that died out it was like 40 threads in so it was pointless to drop.
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>>1219203
I feel dirty.
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>>1219169
You're simplifing things too much... I could probably do that if I really wanted to, but I don't really think that this would be a good idea.

I could blog more if you guys want to, though, but I need that time for revising mechs...

Also, now working on the Chimera.

Also, my thanks for black-gay-anon for his opinions on the matter, he is probably right in the "confusing feelings" thing about him I believe.
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I'm going to stop posting images before Wong gets mad.
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>>1219221
This was needed last thread.

>>1219218
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>>1219169

It's used a lot by numales trying to sound tougher and more masculine by aping a Southern or urban black accent when threatened. Specifically when typed out, not spoken. You see it on /qa/ a lot.
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>>1219226
Huh.

I mean. I'm from Alberta but I did rodeo a bit in Wainwright and picked it up there.
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Well this thread went places, mostly in circles but thats still technically "places".

Love you guys, even the ones I think are complete idiots and the ones who's politics don't make sense to me.
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>>1219237
>the ones who's politics don't make sense to me
What are you talking about? Sarah Palin is undeniably the best candidate for President of the United States. It's just a fact.
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>>1219225
>Call others gay for taking about traps.
>Likes Sam.
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>>1219237
Dems didn't even like their candidate enough to vote for her, but Trump is the worst one? This current administration is the voice of the people who gave enough of a damn to vote instead of coasting while ignoring the parts of America getting left behind that didn't make for good virtue signalling.
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>>1219240
Sam is best girl.
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>>1219240
I'm self aware.

Sam is best girl. Then Clemmy. Then Fatima. The rest are just okay.
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>>1219226
I dunno dude, I use ya'll because saying "you all" or restructuring a sentence to fit around not using ya'll sounds un-casual as fuck. Especially on a Native American anti-wendigo spirit dance forum
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>>1219256
All I know is I'm from Texas, so it's part of my normal vocabulary. I've been told it's weird to type it out, but it just seems normal to me to use it, and trying not to makes sentences look weird.
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>>1219256
>Native American anti-wendigo spirit dance forum
...Did Wong went to the woods to start a cult again? Why didn't anyone invited me?
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Does anyone know where the out of scale spaces rules are?
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>>1219243

Wholeheartedly agree.
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>>1219281
>>1219243
The fact he's keeping his promises and showing his competence when dealing with the media helps a lot. The first 100 days are usually treated as a joke, but plenty has been done in only 30 days. Seeing those dems in white trying to protest made things worse for them. going to be a wild ride.
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>>1219294
> But the Media is the good guys!

It's like, yeah free media is good. Unrestrained media that clearly has an agenda, not so much.

Pretty sure the recent election results shows that most mainstream media isn't "the voice of the people".

Because that's what elections are for.
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>>1219164
Yeah, I was trying to wrap my head around that too with the Roadstriker stats. I think the ATM rules are supposed to replace the rules in core.
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>>1219327

they are really not written to work side-by side, that is for sure. Then again, the core rulebook system was not all that great, and the ATM system is flexible enough that you should be able to make whatever you want, so overall the new system is a plus.
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>>1219386
No, it's not a matter or choosing one over the other. I was trying to make a ship balanced for the Wongverse, so I wanted to figure out how the corebook ship weapons were made with the ATM Scaling Rules. But they're impossible to even roughly recreate with the ATM. Make a gun with similar stats and it costs less than half. Make a gun with similar cost and it completely eclipses the Corebook weapons.
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>>1219399
You know... Maybe we should just go full autistical for gen two and make ships from the normal rules instead and fluff it as "techonological advancement".
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>>1219404
Say no more. I already have an idea. Could have Caesar be the captain of it.
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>>1219432
My idea was making the USS Enterprise.

Why do my ideas always seem so much more boring that everyone else's?
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>>1219452
Because you went with the Star Trek option instead of a super robot option. It's like you don't want to ram your ship into the enemy!
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>>1219457
But I went with the WWII option.
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>>1219460
I mean... if you set up the big deck(I know nothing of naval stuff) as some sort of high speed mech catapult/accelerator I could see it working. Treat it like a 1 turn Booster Pack or something
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>>1219476
You just call it a flight deck.

And I had thought about something like that, but you can only get up to 12 MA on your first turn of movement so it wouldn't help all that much.
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>>1219218
Happy to be of service, hope you and your friend work shit out.

So has the tournament actually started yet or are we still setting things up?

I've kinda been missing threads ever since Amos's last battle with the Greenman.

Also Fuck fairchild, not for any particular reason, just because she's fairchild, and also a wannabe killstealing bitch.
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>>1219476
>>1219486
From a mechanical standpoint, you could stat the flight deck as an Arm servo, fitted with numerous Handy Melee Weapon catapults.

Carrying the Mekton-grabbing-Roadstriker rules into Ship scale - and noting that Ships are not limited to Actions, and can instead fire all their weapons in a single turn - should allow you to easily throw your complement of grabbed mechs a number of Hexes equal to the number of Kills in your flight deck servo divided by 2.
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>>1219491
I swear, either she has Empathy 2 or Cool 2. She has high attractiveness and Int(likely with a sky high education), but with how easy she is to troll and her complete lack of understanding the situation, those two stats just feel low.
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>>1219508
That's... kinda ridiculous. And not balanced for the scale. I was going to make it Medium Weight, so if I used a MW Arm it would throw a mech 350 Hexes.
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>>1219523
Scaling rules are the least balanced part of the Mekton Zeta rules anyway.

Also bear in mind that if you don't actually use Ship-scale melee weapons for your catapults (which you probably won't), your GM also probably won't let you scale the throw distance by 100. Using Roadstriker-scale weapons would probably be far more economical, and throw your mechs a somewhat more reasonable distance of 35 Hexes.
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>>1219534
>Roadstriker-scale weapons
You mean Corvette, right?

And that would make more sense that what I had said. A bonus is that since they're out of scale they wouldn't take up a lot of spaces per catapult, which is good because I can fit a lot of hangars since it won't have weapons and having 1 catapult per mech launched might be fair. I'd have to think about it more.
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>>1219551
>You mean Corvette, right?
Yes, my bad.
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>>1219154
Ships guns are on page 77. Ships could use a lot more customization options as well. Like shit a bay full of drone mecha or something.
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>>1219268

We didn't want you to get deported.
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>>1219513

Roarke has a massive social situational bonus against her for obvious reasons.
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>>1219671
Oh, thats okay then.
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>>1219551
Well I've run into the snag of being able to launch 35 mechs a turn, but only being able to fit 7 of the fluffed catapults.
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>>1219708
>35
How did I fuck that up? 18
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>>1219708
>>1219713
How are you able to launch more mechs than you have catapults?

And surely you can fit roughly 13 10:1-scale catapults (Base 0.75 CP Handy 1-Kill melee weapon) in a single 100:1-scale Space besides?
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>>1219683
Because she's secretly tsundere.

NTR is Wong's fetish as emphasized by Roarke stealing Clemmy away from Fairchild.
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>>1219753
I don't want to use a Starship scale arm because I'm already making a lot of stretches already, you know? Going to technical corvette scale hands in a technical starship scale arm servo that throws mechs at a corvette scale distance is a bit much.
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>>1219769
Ah, you're statting it as a Corvette-scale design, then. For some reason I was under the impression that you were statting it as a Ship.
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>>1219683
Roarke does have the multi-combo of being his crush's son, screwing over her plans on a constant basis, and taking her OTHER crush, but I meant in general as well. Her showing up during the final battle of Vietnam showed that. In terms of empathy, she showed no consideration to SOUL C and was too into herself to notice Amos is trying to do something important. In terms of cool, turning all your weapons on your ace when he interrupts you AFTER you tell him to interrupt if he has something important to say? Situation aside, it shows a lack of control.
Of course, it could just be due to the constant trend of Roarke wrecking her shit and gnawing on the frayed threads of her psyche every chance he could get.
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>>1219784
Child super soldiers typically do not grow up to be well adjusted people.
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>>1219779
It's starship scale, I'm just getting the stats out of the corebook since everything but the amount of mechs you can have in a hangar is the same. I want to keep the deck at corvette scale because of the aforementioned stretching.

Actually, I'm just going to go away from making the American version of Space Battleship Yamamoto. I'll put more arms on it and fill them all with hands.
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>>1219793
Except she's not the super soldier in this situation. Too old. Also didn't fit any of the other data we had. No, this is simply the case of pure autism, loud screeching included. Super focused, bad at sudden changes, can't into social cues.
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>>1219802
It's the space madness, anon.
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>>1219761

NTR is gross and it's not NTR anyway because Clemmy never returned Fairchild's feelings. At best she would have given it a try after much emotional manipulation, but I doubt it would ever have been real love even if Roarke hadn't seduced her.
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>>1219802
Shes a sub par super soldier but she was still directly involved in a super soldier project as a child.
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>>1219818

If we hadn't seduced her then, would there have been opportunities to seduce her after we had met her on the battlefield?
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>>1219823
If you are talking orange pekoe team, she never took part in it. She was of the age, but being a girl meant she was not considered. Too young to join the war proper as well. In terms of Megabass, she was more a test pilot than a super soldier.
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>>1219834
You probably need to be some sort of super to be a test pilot for megabass considering trying to pilot it killed a bunch of people and they had to make specially grown people to get it working before Coop swooped in.
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>>1219844
Not really. She has shown progress in managing bits, but the survival rates were pretty bad even for the genetically modified super soldiers. It may just be a case of her upbringing putting her in a more focused, but safer part of the testing or be after the part where fatalities were high for normal pilots.
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>>1219853
Its been a while since I read it but I remember her having the best progress out of all the people they had tested to that point. Plus the dude in charge did not seem like the type to go easy on people just because of their background.
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>>1219853

There were a few factors at play. First, Gerard Biggs couldn't push Fairchild as hard because of her family and risk killing her for the success of the project. Second, she was involved in the earlier stages, controlling a relatively small number of drones, much safer than the later and more...risky...portions of the Megabass project. That said, she was unquestionably a talented prodigy as a young girl and easily could have been part of Team Orange Pekoe if she was a boy (which might also explain her unexpected modicum of sympathy for Naomi when talking to Roarke, emphasis on modicum), and is just as unquestionably an ace pilot today.

As for how she behaved towards Amos, keep in mind that she is a tremendous bitch and even though she made the Major write an apology and smiled for the cameras and pins medals on his chest...she doesn't like him one little bit. She likes what he does for her project, yes, but in a way that's even more grating. She has to endure three "stupid, not-cute boys" being the poster children for her precious SOUL project, and its top ace being someone who...well, can you guess why she wouldn't like Colonel Stern?
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>>1219872
Best progress does not mean super soldier though. In those same words, Coop, who managed to get the thing to work even after all that would be a super soldier. He is not. She has Ace capabilities, but that does not make a someone a super soldier.
In a way, this could be part and parcel to Fairchild's issues. She IS an ace. She IS quite capable. But, she is missing that something that makes her stand out in those regards. Kinda like coming in second place in everything, but actually wanting to get 1st in something.
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>>1219907
>implying Coop isnt a super soldier
Not all super soldiers are grown in a lab anon.
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>>1219902
So "missing that one little thing" is Fairchild's life story then?
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>>1219833
Not particularly. She would be the axe-crazy murderer that would've every player gunning for her.
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>stupid, not-cute boys
>not-cute boys
>Simon not-cute
Simon is the cutest and the strongest.
Fairchild confirmed for scum of the earth.
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>>1219818
Is a joek
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>>1219902
Because he's not an asshole?
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>>1219902
Remind me again who's Naomi?
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>>1219958
Lady's clone
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>>1219911
Except nothing of his circumstances shown him to be super. Neither trained or gained, he simply stumbled upon it. Thats not a super soldier, thats a guy who managed to get a hold of the BFG in mech form and made it work.
>>1219902
Luck and smacking Clemmy when she was bullying Jesus, I would have to say personality. Amos' style of thinking is quite different and more inlined with Sterns. Do the right thing, even if there is less glory, do not sacrifice others or cut corners, less subterfuge all around and being generally diplomatic in a goodwill sort of way. Fairchild seems more the chess master. Sacrifice pawns when needed, sit back, take the glory, and goal oriented diplomacy. She had no qualms with losing soldiers if she could take all the glory and was willing to use diplomacy for Rashad so she had more power. Meanwhile, Amos is ok with some glory being taken so long as the job is done with minimal lost of life. Fairchild sees her men as tools. Amos sees his men as comrades and friends. Their very natures are ones that will not mix.
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You are, at long last, once again Roarke Susan Starwind, Admiral of the Iron Kestrels and pilot of the Knuckle Kaiser, officially designated as the Black Ogre by the UJCIDF.

You are spying on one of your wives-to-be, Karen Cohen, from around the doorway of her room. Not for any particular reason, but just because something cute is going on and you don't want to interrupt.

“Onee-sama! Oneeeee-samaaaaa!” The small girl in the witch hat pulls on Karen's cheongsam, practically dancing around her and waving her arms for attention, “I'm not joking! I really saw him, a real bishonen! A BISHONEN, onee-sama!”

“What's that, again?” Karen is paying no attention, activating her PC and setting it down on a stand on one of her workbenches, displaying a holoscreen. You can't read the text from here, but it's a series of instructions with a picture of a smiling sunflower and the text JOY OF GARDENING at the top. She carefully examines a series of small vials and packages, and begins mixing something together in a squeezable capule, mostly water. She sniffs it and wrinkles her nose, attaching a tube to the capule's nozzle and opening up a cooler-sized container on top of another toolbench. It's quite ornate, and the blue and gold decorations of the container remind you of Loriette's heraldry. In fact, you can see the goose from her coat-of-arms on the lock. Inside, bright luminotubes line the top and sides of the box, but you can't see what's inside from here.

“A boy! A beautiful boy! He makes my kokoro dokidoki oneesama!” The little witch Akai, Bosun of the Storm Dragons, spins in a happy circle, arms outstretched, “Uwaaaah~ I want to be his maiden~” She clasps her hands to her cheeks, smiling blissfully.

You try not to burst into laughter at Karen's puzzled expression or the way she wags the slender glass rod she's using to mix chemicals at her self-proclaimed little sister, “Akai! You're too young to be anyone's maiden!” She scolds her.

The Storm Dragon puffs up her cheeks and stomps her foot, “I am not! I'm an adult too! Taishou-sama entrusted me with the glorious frame of his original Osano-Wo, and I'm going to fight in Space Jam for the honor of glorious Nippon! I'm old enough to be someone's maiden!”

[Continued]
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>>1219963
Being able to make it work makes him super, weather he stumbled onto it or not. They had vat grown people specially designed to pilot it and Coop is better at it then them.
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>>1219963
>Thats not a super soldier, thats a guy who managed to get a hold of the BFG in mech form and made it work.

Considering plugging into that BFG mech seems to be absolutely fatal for most people from what we've been told it makes him pretty extraordinary.
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>>1219964
>It's quite ornate, and the blue and gold decorations of the container remind you of Loriette's heraldry. In fact, you can see the goose from her coat-of-arms on the lock. Inside, bright luminotubes line the top and sides of the box, but you can't see what's inside from here.
IT BEGINS.
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>>1219964
Wow, that's so Brazil I'm scared.
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>>1219973
I can already feel the cringe and anger coming on
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>>1219964
>“A boy! A beautiful boy! He makes my kokoro dokidoki oneesama!”

reading this makes me wanna kill myself.
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>>1219958

Caesar's girlfriend. Ironically, if you reversed their genders you'd have the stereotypical "jock boy and nerd girl" relationship. She's confident, assertive, and a natural crack shot and ace pilot. He's shy, would rather stay in his room all day, and got good at mecha through obsessive simgame playing.
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>>1219983

Then I'm doing it right.
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>>1219979
The Viking is just Thunder, The Weeb is just BR.

It seems the characters are just "namefag: the post"

I like it.
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>>1219994
Actually I didn't plan on making Finn anything like myself, I just made him as a character I would enjoy playing which is hot blood crazy men.
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>>1219964
awww yeah! time for some crazy shit!
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>>1219980
I was thinking more on the lines of it being one of the few things from a paladin that could be grown that has our mechanic working on it.
>>1220006
Thunderbird, that is you. A more viking you, but still you.
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>>1220006
But thunderbird, that is you
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>>1220028
Ya but he wouldn't have given a shit about women, just the Gods. I'm talking Mozgus levels of worship.
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>>1219818
NTR is definitely something I could never get. But anyways, good to see the threads back on track talking about mecha and how shit Fairchild is.
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>>1219963
Are you seriously shit talking Coop? The guy who inspires dread in Avalonians? Literally called Dread General Coop?
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>>1220066
I hear he decided to change his nickname to something less violent and intimidating. Betty.
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>>1220006
I disagree about you being completely Finn. Not enough edge to be you.
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>>1220075
Isn't Betty a woman's name?
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“It's not Roarke, is it? You had better not be talking about Roarke.” Karen's voice is sweet, but very firm.

“That's your bishonen! I have my own!” Akai insists, “I'm going to win his love with my ZA WALKURE!” She imitates a deep voice, “'Oh Akai-chan, let's hold hands and eat lunch together on a rooftop.' Hai hai, Victor-kun~” She hugs herself gleefully. You haven't heard a word about magic curses or dark destinies yet, the love bug must have bitten her hard.

“I'm not sure letting you fight is a good idea either. I've seen your sim results and, yes, they're very impressive...but some of the other contestants are hardened killers and elite mercenaries. They're not all gentlemen like Mister Hammer.” Karen squints at Akai's determined expression from behind her glasses, “You're not listening at all, are you?”

“Ie!” Akai insists, shaking her head stubbornly, “My bishonen is fighting too!”

Karen sighs, shrugs, and goes back to her mixing, “So, is he a Storm Dragon?”

Akai blushes, “N-not yet he's not, but Victor-kun has the heart of a true Japanese!”

“Not one of Red Siren's fans, I hope?” Karen rolls her eyes.

“Ie! He'd never even heard S-Pop until he came to Auditorium!” The little witch continues shaking her head.

“Oh, one of our Kestrels, then? That's cute.” Karen huffs with exertion lifting a big glass case out of the glowing box, it's sort of bullet-shaped, cylindrical with a hemispheral top. She attaches the hose to the capule, and squeezes, “Eat up, little flower.” She hums to herself cheerfully, “Grow big and strong for Mama Karen, now.”

Akai looks abruptly nervous, “Well, not exactly...”

“Akai Inazuma, if you tell me he's a member of the UJCIDF I'm going to tell your Captain right now.” Karen threatens without rancor, “Caesar has a girlfriend, she's just...not here right now, not yet.” She sounds like she's joking.

“N-no! They hate him! Alice-sama bullied him and beat up his mech, so he made a better one for space!” Akai pokes her fingertips together.

Karen sighs, “Avalonian. Right. Of course. What else could he possibly be?”

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>>1220084
Hopefully, you don't learn that iron claws fucking hurt, man.

>>1219964
>>1220093
Yep, this is great. I applaud you.
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>>1220066
Not at all. Rather I see Coop as quite a threat. But he is a threat due to his machine, not due to innate greatness. I mean, if it had to be a high HMIS capacity or something, that means JESUS could be a super soldier. Bloody JESUS!
No, to me Super Soldier is not some title you get from being lucky. You earn that shit through sweat and tears. Amos is someone I would consider a super soldier in the making. He's been forged in napalm fire and fed the corpses of Paladins and greenmen alike as fuel for his growth.
Which reminds me, his shield. I think it's modeled or uses materials from the Paladin he shot down.
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>>1220084
>>1220097
I fucking love this playerbase.
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>>1220093
what have I wrought?
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>>1220115
Nothing good.
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>>1220101
He literally has the super human power to not have his brain melted out of his head by a doomsday weapon. Hes better at it than actual super soldiers who were made specifically to use it. He couldn't be more of a super soldier if he tried.
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>>1220101

I'd just like to point out that nobody else but Coop was able to command the full-strength Megabass and that trying caused neural overload and frequently death. It's a mech so big that it has a pair of Heavy Cruiser-sized starships for wings, with a fleet of drones.
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>>1220122
yeah..not good. IT'S AMAZING!
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>>1220134
Well you went down the wrong side of the spectrum but to each his own I guess.
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>>1220084
So what you're saying is we are going to Honeydick "Betty"?
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>>1219964
>>1220093
The Storm Dragon's are the best, and Akai is the cutest maiden.
If she don't win this whole damn thing ill be crying salty tears for the next few year.
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>>1220133
It's cool, guy is just delusional. Piloting something that can fuck up a planet doesn't make you super.
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>>1220146
By we, I mean you.
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>>1220153
Put your trip back on Brazil no one is falling for it
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“His heart is Japanese! We're going to have thirty babies once he gets married to me! You have to help me win his heart, oneesama!” Akai insists, “Even with my strongest love spells, I need to seal the deal!”

Karen looks at her sidelong, “Well, you can always do what I did...”

You need to stop this before she tells Akai things you hope she isn't prepared to hear.

Karen smiles, “Build him a mech!”

Akai pouts, “I don't know how!”

Karen chuckles and pats her head. Or, rather, her hat, “Then stick to love spells, and when you feel like the time is right, tell him how you feel.”

Akai huffs, “Fine! Don't help me, oneesama! I understand what you're saying, I need to do it myself! I, the Crimson Witch of the Storm Dragons, will ensnare him in my net of love! Just you watch!” She spins on her heel and stomps out of the room with determination. It would be impressive if she wasn't tiny, “Oh, and your bishonen is here! He's peeping at you!”

You have never seen Karen move so fast, putting the thing in the glass case back in the box with the capule still attached so quickly her arms blur, shoving the box under her workbench, and spinning around to face you while standing in front of it, “Oh Roarke! How long have you been there!” Her gaze is suspiciously shifty. She hops up onto the edge of the desk and draws one knee up against her chest, exposing a lot of very smooth leg and doing her best attempt at a distractingly seductive expression, “You should have called out, it embarrasses me when you stare like that!” She twirls the tip of one pigtail around her finger.

>[Hi Karen]
>[What's in the box, Karen?]
>[Flatter her]
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>>1220169
>>[What's in the box, Karen?]
It better not be Rosita's head
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>>1220165
By "you" you mean Thunderbird (rolling for Roarke)
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>>1220169
>[What's in the box, Karen?]
Maximum bully!
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>>1220169
>[What's in the box, Karen?]
Boy do I love mystery boxes.
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>>1220169
>>[Flatter her]
Then
>[What's in the box, Karen?]
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>>1220169
> Tease her by imitating the little week girl
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>>1220169
>>[What's in the box, Karen?]
not so mysterious box option
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>>1220169
>>[Flatter her]
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Rolled 2 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

>>1220179
Well time to polish off the old seduction dice, we might need them soon enough
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>>1220169
>[What's in the box, Karen?]
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>>1220169
>[Flatter her]
>[What's in the box, Karen?]
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>>1220169
>[Hi Karen]
>[What's in the box, Karen?]
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>>1220191
ye slipping TB, try ye olde slaughtermode
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Rolled 8 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

>>1220191
Dice Gods agree, Karen a shit.

Joke, all waifus are precious
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>>1220178
Karen's reaction.
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Rolled 4 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

>>1220197
Time to retire Africa from my playlist its been unlucky for a while

>>1220198
You were right the first time
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>>1220169
>>[What's in the box, Karen?]
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Well, either way. Considering we saw a plant, I recall that music helps plants grow. That means we need to play it our mix tape and submerge it in the wonder of Freddie Mercury. Surely it will grow big and strong then.
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So I would assume we will have a chance to get Lori's upgrade by the end of the arc. I wonder what its going to be?
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>>1220230
it will have the best mustache
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>>1220240
and be gay
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>>1220240
That or it's roots do the famous freedie pose.
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>>1220230
>tfw because of playing it classics in its infancy Roarke's biocore's HEAT UP involves blasting music

Truly the noisiest biocore.
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Rolled 10 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

>>1220211
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>>1220259
Just to remind you how it's done.
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>>1220251
And thats how the Kaiser hit on the Squilla with a nat 10 seduction.
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Rolled 2 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

>>1220263
Don't worry I remembered
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Rolled 2 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

>>1220268
Thunder your slacking
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Rolled 3, 3, 3, 1, 6, 2, 3, 8 = 29 (8d10)

>>1220274
Time to clear out the dice a bit
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>>1219994
I'm pretty sure that I'm not a nice old lady who can beat up young men.
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>>1220268
>>1220274
I think the dice gods just decided the new patron number of MSPQ is 2.
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>>1220276
This is a sign you need to lay off and sacrifice a bit more.
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>>1220093
>That's your bishonen!

I just realized that Roarke actually is kinda effeminate looking. Facial structure wise.
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>>1219994
I wish I had a RX-7 and was able to drift in the mountain roads of Japan...
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>>1220288
Like always when the roll is truly needed luck will be on my side
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>>1220299
You never call on it, just trust for it to catch you when you jump and to carry you up and let you fly.
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>>1220296
Deja vu
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>>1220292

Not really, he just has a glorious mane. Akai just doesn't have the wider context on the term.
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>>1220340
KINDA effeminate. He's got a narrower facial structure (although that could just be the anime art style).
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>>1220292
Yeah no. Roarke looks more like a jojo character. He's been described by multiple characters as being tall muscular and practically feral in his bearing. He just has long rocker hair.
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>>1220351
I always imagined him as a palette swapped Nier dude. He's a buffed up brawler.
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>>1220334
I've just been in this place before

>>1220169
>[Hi Karen, what's in the box?]

>>1220357
So he's Kakyoin?
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>>1220362
Does that mean we can have Emil as our Haro?
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>>1220362
That looks like the shitty japanier. Dog-faced westernier is way better.
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>>1220376
that IS dogface
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>>1220380
>he thinks my blind ass can see details in a sub 300 w/h image

pls.

The lock of hair also doesn't help so I was taking a gamble.
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>>1220376
Brother Nier looks like a fucking Raiden ripoff

How could you confuse him with badass Papa Nier?
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>>1220376
The fuck?

>>1220402

Japan forgot how to Manly after the 90s
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>>1220357
I literally said facial structure wise. I'm perfectly aware he's ripped. Although not as ripped as Amos.

>>1220362
That's probably a pretty good representation. Admittedly, I'm not a fan of either version of Nier's design. Japanese version looks like a teenager and Western version has dumb armor.
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>>1220413
I blame the bishonen fujoshis and FFVII for this.
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>>1220429
We're in a flying punch bot IN SPAAAAAAAACE we don't have room to criticize
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>>1220429
>has dumb armor.

Not that it would make a difference against half the enemies in the game being as huge and strong as they are but I agree.
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>>1220433
Woah! What was wrong with 8? Last FF with manly men.

Well. At least Squall wasn't a bitch.
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>>1220442
>What was wrong with 8

everything that wasn't the music or Laguna.
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>>1220442
all squall did was bitch internally
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You can't be distracted. She's adorable and has great legs and you love her, but you've known her too long to be easily misled by Karen's dastardly wiles. You put your hands in the pockets of your jacket and flash her your most winning smile, “Have I told you today how much I love you?”

“No, you've been out hitting rocks and sparring with a tiger again, so do go on.” She folds her arms around her leg., her smile widening. She thinks she's getting away with her mischief.

“I mean it, you're not just cute, and you're not just sexy...” You walk closer, slow and nonthreatening, like a gar swimming up on a bright-scaled trout.

“S-sexy?” She blushes, despite having obviously been going for that, “You really think so? I mean, I try, but gosh...I get so embarrassed and I always mess it up and...and I'm really glad it works for you.” She looks down at the floor, smiling shyly.

“It always does. Anyway, you're brilliant, too. Much too smart to think I'm being fooled right now. So, what's in the box?” You inquire innocently.

“What box?” She looks away, picking a random corner of the ceiling to gaze at, “I have a lot of boxes. She bends down with a deliberate bounce of her chest, grabbing a small box full of spare mechanical parts and gadgets she's been fiddling with, holding it out to you with a sweet little flutter of her eyelashes.

“You're too damned cute.” You admit, smiling, your hands in the pockets of your black leather jacket, “But that's not the box I'm talking about.”

“You're cute too.” She says softly, “It's this box, right?” She picks up a toolbox and opens it to display a well-organized kit of shiny little autowrenches.”

“Nope, still the wrong one.” You adjust your shades, your smile becoming a grin.

She reaches for another toolbox full of miniature riveters, then hesitates, gives you a sweet smile, and lifts the front of her cheongsam's skirt, “This box, Roarke?”

>[Yes, that box, wear her out and then steal the box to examine it]
>[No, and bully her until you get the box]
>[Whisper sweet nothings in her ear and grab the box she's trying to hide from you]
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>>1220457
>[No, and bully her until you get the box]
Maximum. Bully.
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>>1220457
>>[No, and bully her until you get the box]
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>>1220433

I blame the people who wanted the protagonist to get the you-know-what from you-know-which-girl for this.
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>>1220457
>>[No, and bully her until you get the box]
I feel the need, the need to bully
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>>1220442
12 had Basch Fon Ronsenburg. Was supposed to be the main character too, then execs said no, main character needs to be a spunky spikey haired Anima boy.
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>>1220457
>>[Whisper sweet nothings in her ear and grab the box she's trying to hide from you]
Lewd bullying is a good bullying.
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>>1220457
>[Whisper sweet nothings in her ear and grab the box she's trying to hide from you]
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>>1220467
Goddammit Peach, you cockteasing slut.
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>>1220457
>[No, and bully her until you get the box]
You can't stop me when I shift into Maximum Over-Bully!
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>>1220457
>[Whisper sweet nothings in her ear and grab the box she's trying to hide from you]
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So, out of the 12 Peers of Charlemagne, which of the Paladins do we know about again? I remember Oliver, Gerin, Berenger and Anséis. What was Tabitha's again? Samson?

Are the remaining Paladins Roland, Gerier, Otton, Samson, Engelier, Ivon, Ivoire, and Girard? Spelling may not be accurate.
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>>1220457
>[Whisper sweet nothings in her ear and grab the box she's trying to hide from you]
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>>1220457
>[No, and bully her until you get the box]

Must bully.
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>>1220469

I just wish they'd go back to IV and have the main character look like a potential BBEG.
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>>1220442
It was VII and Cloud and Vincent are fujoshi's wet dreams since 1997.
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>>1220481
Samson belongs to the traitor who was a part of Orange Pekoe. Think it was the Girard.
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>>1220457
>[Whisper sweet nothings in her ear and grab the box she's trying to hide from you]
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>>1220481

Engeler/Engelier is Tabitha's. Samson is Belegor's.
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>>1220490
Wait, I thought he was Berenger.
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>>1220495
Berenger is Maria's
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>>1220495
No, berenger is the crazy harpoon paladin who Lori's teacher piloted on Qu'lir.
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>>1220494
Ah, gotcha. Am I accurate on the names?

>>1220495
This was the Duchess's. Right.
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>>1220487
Still can't believe they made Cecil into a Paddlin'.
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>>1220457
>>[Yes, that box, wear her out and then steal the box to examine it]

MAXIMUM BULLY.
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>>1220457
>[Yes, that box, wear her out and then steal the box to examine it]
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>>1220495
Berenger was not-bloodborne lady.
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>>1220402
>[Whisper sweet nothings in her ear and grab the box she's trying to hide from you]
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>>1220488

Vincent is a thousand times worse than Cloud. "Let's mosey" versus being a bishonen vampire with a TRAGIC PAST and GUNZ and SHAPESHIFTING INTO MUH DEMON SELF.

>>1220490

Girard/Gerard fought the Megabass alongside the Anseis and they both lost pretty hard but avoided capture.
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>>1220487
Cecil was the shit! Definitely influenced the characters I liked growing up. Nothing wrong with looking like a bad motherfucker. Look at Darth Vader? Stylish.
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>>1220516
Wasn't Vincent an optional character anyway?
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>>1220516
Yeah. Cloud was what I'd call tolerable edgy. Vincent was full on deviant art original character do not steal.
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>>1220487
He doesn't look exactly like the paragon of manliness
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>>1220521

EXACTLY! WHY CAN'T YOU PLAY AS THAT DUDE MORE OFTEN!?

I don't care if he's a prettyboy underneath or not but at least try to look like someone who dropkicks Behemoths as a morning workout.
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Nor him
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>>1220531

That's Kain and his original sprite looked a million times more badass.
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>>1220516
Ahhh, thats the one I was thinking of. Honestly, original cloud wasn't too bad. He was a punk, but not originally a emotional one. Kinda ballsy even. Then the remakes happen and they will wipe out all the fun bits in that game. Like the squats for a blonde wig for a outfit to disguise as a girl to infiltrate. Then doing so well the big shot picks you instead of tits mcgee and the flower girl.
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Use the promo art.
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>>1220530
FFVII Cloud was nowhere near edgy. This is the guy who thought it was a good idea to crossdress in order to sneak into a slumlord's palace because said slumlord was kidnapping girls to sleep with them.
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>>1220531
That picture is shit.
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>>1220532
Because apparently the majority of gamers identify with tiny blonde anime boys. I'm looking at you ff9 10 and 12s substitute character.
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>>1220543
That Cecil Paladin in the background right there is 80's rock gods manliness. No lie.
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>>1220543
Yeah. Dude looks like he eats protagonists alive. Plus his helmet looks like he's got a smug grin.
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>>1220561
Honestly, I liked Vivi and Steiner over Zidane.
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>>1220543

That fucking jojopose
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>>1220576

Zidane was by far the most tolerable protagonist from the three games named.
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>>1220580
Still dunno who's worse though. Tidus is pretty fucking up there though. Ugh.
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>>1220576
I liked the really stupid guy from 2 (Was it 1 and 2 which weren't actually 1 and 2 in the western release?) who could talk to beavers.
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>>1220580
Because he was already a thief and you could play him as abit of a dick sometimes.

Like making the boss go on about kidnapping the queen 100 times.
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>>1220576
That's because Vivi is great and Steiner is a fuckin hero.
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>>1220543
Didn't know Benten/Griffith was a FF character
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>>1220580
Aye. He was a cheeky guy who fit the theme of the game and got over his emo shit pretty easy. Bit theatrical, but considering the tone of the game and the main villain, it fits well. Still, as characters, I liked Vivi and Steiner more. Steiner was a man who loved his country and wanted to simply protect the princess before getting his developement and understanding that the spirit and word of the law and country are different. Vivi? Vivi was life deciding to stomp that person into the curb until he was the curb. In his short mechanical life, he was thrown off a airship, fished out of the sky by a crazy hermit who was caring for him to eat him, went to see a play, found out it was a bad ticket, then later finds out he is a mass produced war machine with a limited life span of a year or so.
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>everyone's talking about Final Fantasy
Uh... Dominons 4 is really good?
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>>1220605
Final Fantasy IX is actually probably my favorite game ever. It was my first proper introduction to the RPG genre, and it was such an enthralling story with amazing characters, and the gameplay itself was solid and fun.

The first time through, when I was young, I was nuts about Zidane and barely tolerated Steiner. Thankfully as I grew up, I started understanding their characters more, understanding their depths and personalities. I still adore Zidane for his simple, friendly charm and good nature ('You don't need a reason to help people' is actually a phrase that effected me deeply), but Steiner is probably my favorite character. Vivi is tied with Zidane for second.

The honorable and noble Steiner who has to come to terms with his focus on law and order is deeply moving, and the moment when he realizes that the truly just and good act is actually to rebel is... magnificent.

Plus, he's a fucking shit wrecker. He's the first character I ever hit the damage limit with.
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>>1220624
Steiner also ends up with best girl, that lucky bastard.
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>>1220624
Yeah Steiner is a wrecking ball in plate mail.
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>>1220621
Cyclops is the best unmodded pretender chassis.
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>>1220624
>It was my first proper introduction to the RPG genre

aH, NOSTALGIA. That explains shit taste.
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>>1220624
I'll agree with you there on that and the Suikoden series. My salt is eternal with the shit Konami did with their brands.
>>1220629
But Anon, thats not Quinna!
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“I always want that one.” You lean down over her, your hands on her shoulders, trailing up to cup her face in your hands and give her a kiss.

She sighs happily into it, her arms slipping around your neck as she pulls you down, laying back on the desk. You can feel her smirking against your lips, and practically hear her thoughts, 'Fufufu!' She's thinking, 'I, KAREN, have cleverly achieved my prize and escaped all consequences! I won't let him out of bed all night, and once he's asleep, I'LL HIDE THAT BOX WHERE HE SHALL NEVER FIND IT! Fufufufu! Once again, the bespectacled demon mechanic of the Iron Kestrels is triumphant!' You can feel her subvocalizing her smug laughter at her victory.

You pull back from the kiss, smile lovingly at her, and gently stroke her cheek, your other hand moving around to the back of her head, “My home is wherever you are.” You tell her.

“Oh Roarke...” She sighs blissfully, radiating triumph.

“I can't wait until you're my wife.” You tell her, nibbling her ear, whispering your words with all of your charm.

“Oh R-Roarke!” She purrs, wrapping her legs around your waist. “I...” She blushes, “I already think of us as...as...you know. Married.”

You nod serenely, “Right and proper. Of course, you know what the best part of marriage is?”

She blinks, considering it, “Is it having kids? Because if Akai and Athena are anything to go by they're kind of a handful and you really have to watch them to make sure they don't eat anything they aren't supposed to or climb into the cockpit of an experimental mech to go joyriding the second your back is turned and...” She's clearly had a tough time being a role model to Akai and babysitting Athena, but you gently interrupt her anyway.

“Teasing your spouse when they deserve it.” With the sweetest grin in the world, you grab her pigtails together in your hand and tug on them, “What's in the box?”

She yelps, “Roarke, you brute!” She punches your chest, harrumphing.

Tug tug tug, “What's in the B O X?”

“Noooo! Roaaaarke! Be distracted already!” She whines, the punching turning into pummeling.

You easily sling her over your shoulder and hoist the box onto the workbench with one arm as she pummels your back to give you a nice even tenderization with her small fists, “I wonder what it could be~?”

“Y-you b-boxtease!” She complains, forced to stop pummeling in order to grab her glasses to stop them from slipping off her face.

“It's a professional requirement for any serious space pirate.” You flip open the lid, gazing down at...what the heck is this, some kind of plant?

[Continued]
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>>1220635
I mostly play C'tis so the Earth Serpent is my favorite pretender. I mean, Fear 5 AND Recuperation? So good.

Devourer of Souls is pretty good too.
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To get back to mecha, which Getter team is the best?
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>>1220648
I mean, with a name like Devourer of souls what's not to like? Sounds trustworthy.
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>>1220643
>some kind of plant
Oh boy, Here we go again
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>>1220654
There is only one team. Ryouma, Hayate, and the poor pilot who joins them by piloting the third getter machine.
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>>1220643
Oh noes. It's one of those Paddling cores.
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>>1220655
It is very trustworthy. Its basic attack has an instant death effect.
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>>1220662
It's Musashi Tomoe. The man, myth and legend.
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>>1220662
But which third pilot was better Musashi or Musashi 2?
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>>1220648
The Hun Came and Teotl of the underworld are pretty cool too. Those free mini squads of fodder are nice, with decent innate abilities too. Kind of squishy though.
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>>1220654
But yeah, I'd go with the original team.
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>>1220682
>The Hun Came
Is that one of Tien Chi's pretenders? I've never played as them, sacred unit Nations aren't my thing.
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>>1220678
>>1220679
Musashi obviously. Motherfucker went a entire day fighting giant dinosaurs to give the team ready, then detonates the Getter's core to take them out. Meanwhile, the manga Benkie and the third guy died like chumps.
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>>1220688
I know he's in that newer xibalba nation with the bat people. Think he's with Mictlan. So yeah basically a bless nation/fodder nation. Blood magic type.
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>>1220679
Musashi 1. He was based on a badass Japanese folklore hero.
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>>1220690
Yeah. Strength and loyalty personified.
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>>1220690
Fuckin dinosaurs ruining everything.
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The glass case inside the box is about ¾ full of some kind of nutrient gel, clear but as thick as honey judging from how it moves as you pick it up. The capule is still attached, and judging from the instructions written on it it's apparently for plant food.

The plant itself is...weird looking. Not exactly a blooming rosebush, certainly. It has a tiny tuft of blue-green leaves at the top, and a fat white taproot that looks oddly rubbery, covered with fine hairs. Its tip is bifurcated and it has two smaller outcroppings, one sticking out on either side at oddly symmetrical angles, giving it almost the look of a crude humanoid doll.

You peer closely at it, “Since when are you into gardening?”

“Put it back! It's a present from Loriette, you're not supposed to see it!” Karen swipes at you with one hand, the other holding her glasses in place, “Roaaaarke!” Her feet kick, and you have to hold the case at arm's length to stop her from accidentally kicking it out of your hands.

“A present? What is it?” You have vague suspicions of some kind of fertility drug, but that's mostly because you have your upcoming marriage occupying your thoughts.

She stops struggling momentarily, apparently realizing that she's not making any headway pummeling you, especially with your jacket on. “Oh, you know 'Le flower from le heart of mon Anseis for mon peasant boy Rowarc to adorn his Ogree Noire moste grande hon hon hon' PUT ME DOWN!”

“No.” You pat her bottom, “I like carrying you. This isn't a flower, either.”

“She was being poetic! It's...umm...it's for the Kaiser. You and I both know the Paladins are a lot more powerful than most mecha, and this is apparently part of it. We got to talking about it and, um, she gave it to me after you and her...you know. I guess she wants to be sure you make it through all of this alive. I'm studying it right now, but if you don't like it I could always just use the Flowerhorn as a testbed for it and deal with Lori being angry at me.” Karen harrumphs, crossing her arms.

>[What say?]
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>>1220752
Oh. Oh fuck. We're already getting Lori's Waifu Bonus.
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>>1220752
"Well as long as you know what you're doing. I'd say you should study it more first before we make a final decision on this?"
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>>1220752
>If you think its safe its good enough for me. But make sure to test it extensively before its added to the Kaiser, don't want any spore taking over my mind.
YES BIOCORE TIME
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>>1220752
Go for it Karen! (What could possibly go wrong)
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>>1220752
>No, I appreciate the gift.
then
> this thing isnt going to grow a face, right?
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>>1220752
I honestly can't wait until the KK can actually open it's mask and laugh like a madman.
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>>1220752
> I'm sure it will be a very pretty flower.

We are are space pirate. We don't know plants.

> SERIOUSLY CAPTAIN ARGUS I GREW UP ON A HIVE WORLD WHAT THE FUCK IS WHEAT

I don't have the pic.
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>>1220752
"Okay. But what does it DO? Cause right now it just looks like a tiny fat man."
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>>1220752
Wew, a mandrake...totally fine.
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>>1220770
"Is it gonna steal my gains?"
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>>1220752
So long as you think it's safe, I trust both of you. Still, I heard music helps plants. Want me to lend you one of my mix tapes?
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>>1220762
Suddenly, far away, Fairchild is Reeeing.
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>>1220782
She feels a disturbance in the force
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>>1220230
>This results in the Kaiser seizing control of the stereo in combat
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>>1220789
"I felt a great disturbance in the Jimmies, as if millions of REEEEs suddenly cried out in rage, and were suddenly freed. I fear something terrible has happened."
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>>1220782
Somehow, through the power of Queen and Roarke being roarke, the mandrake grows in a matter of days. She then has to deal with Kaiser that not only has bit fists, but a anti range shield AND a biocore when her plan fails.
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>>1220795
>somewhere a desk fears for its existence
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>>1220793
The Kaizer already causes shit to freak out when it smiles. I have no doubt even more shenanigans will ensue.
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>>1220802
>now the Kaiser can laugh and scream as well
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>>1220801
The only person who goes to Fairchild's funeral is the desk maker who hand made the coffin. His future cloudier without her providing him constant work.
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>>1220762
I wonder how our freaky space kung fu will mesh with this.
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>>1220811
Considering that Fairchild singlehandedly put his kids through college and let him retire early, his future doesn't seem that bleak.
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>>1220812
> The Kaizer Fist starts honey-dicking enemy Paladins

Literally. It starts boning the mechs.
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>>1220815
>starts growing gundick
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>>1220812
Ever heard the term "Magic Fingers"?
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>>1220813
Can you imagine his profits when he sold the stocks for his little one-man company after his income skyrocketed from Fairchild and his value was arbitrarily inflated? Dude probably could sell for billions of credits thanks to her business clouding the actual worth of his operation.
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>>1220815
Bull of Io indeed.
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By the way, today's conversation about fudging dice rolls raised a good but semi-unrelated point. There has been something I've been doing which HAS been kind of bullshit, and I confess it, and from this point on will stop doing.

When you've engaged UJCIDF troops, I've had them automatically survive cockpit ejections without rolling on various justifications, ruleswise excused as "they save all their luck for a potential eject". This was kind of bullshit, it removed a tough but necessary decision from player hands about whether to aim for the torso or not, and whether the risk of an unintended kill is worth the added expediency of aiming for the torso instead of the head or arms.

I appologize for that. Henceforth, all cockpit ejections WILL be rolled, and people can and will die. Aiming for the limbs of people you wanted to spare worked just fine in the past, and considering what a beast the Kaiser is I'm sure it will be fine in the future.
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>>1220819
I think you mean Hokuto Shin Ken.
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>>1220829
>inb4 multiple tourney NPCs die in their first real combat in the quest.
You can quote me on this.
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>>1220829
I was getting tired of some people thinking Roarke was a saint, anyway.
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>>1220833

I'd suggest saving a point or two of luck for the ejection roll, then. If you have good Agility it actually doesn't take much to guarantee you SURVIVE even if you're injured.
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>>1220829
I always assumed we fluffed it as Roarke is just that good at tearing mechs apart without killing folks. Unless he wants to. Never occurred for me to think about it otherwise.
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>>1220829
Okay, that's gonna be fun to see.

>>1220833
I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>1220834
Ya, I honestly don't get why people think that. I mean Roarke even explained in character he doesn't kill people because its bad business.
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>>1220833
God, I hope so.

>>1220852
Well, there was when we fought the Green Meanies and got swarmed by their Harpies and just said "Fuck that noise, shoot to kill."

We *try* not to kill.
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>>1220852
Hostages are worth more and so are mostly intact mechas.
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>>1220839
Space Jam's life and death? I thought you could declare a combat non-lethal.

>>1220858
3/10 no effort
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>>1220839
Aye. With a nat 10 reflex, rolling a one gets you severe injuries, but you survive. Save 4 luck for a cockpit hit ejection and you are golden.
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>>1220858
Roarke is very vengeful too if you piss him off, its why Bethany is sooooooooooo fucked now that we know who she is.
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>>1220852
My response when someone assumed my "privateer" character in a pen and paper game was too good to bring a gun to a swordfight.
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>>1220863
Not yet anyways. I doubt Roarke would be in a lovey dovey mood talking to Karen after all. Something tells me we haven't gotten the news from Sam yet.
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>>1220872
You know what I meant
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>>1220872
Didn't Sam say Roarke already knew? Something about him specifically requesting her to come.
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>>1220878
No. Amos told Sam her actual name. We didn't know.
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>>1220872
>the person who killed my brother and captainfatherfigure isn't here, but they'll show up soon, I'll be sulky

Nah nigguh, that's when you party. The motherfucker you want to strangle to death is doing the legwork to come to you? That's a good fucking day.

Really though, knowing who killed the people important to you doesn't mean you have to be in a bitchy shitty mood all the time until you kill them. That's irresponsible. Roarke is a grown ass man and can control himself reasonably well.
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>>1220867
It's the best way to win.
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What is the plan for Bethany once we get a hold of her anyway. I remember their was talk of putting her in a bronze bull or giving her to our men.
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>>1220891
Spacewalk with a counter to show how much air is left and a comms channel to roarke so she can plead for her life.
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>>1220891
Just kill her. Crush her cockpit with our drills and chainsaws and be done with her. Play On with the Show by Queen, but nothing fancy or long. I have no desire to give her the SLIGHTEST chance of messing with us.
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>>1220891
Blood eagle, and we mount her corpse on the Bow of our ship.
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>>1220899
Kind of ruined if she doesn't beg for her life though. Maybe we could keelhaul her, though I don't know how that would work in space.

>>1220904
I get what your going for but I don't think Roarke would be so calm about it. She murdered most of his friends, his brother, and captain. Roarke's shown he's an angry dude he's gonna want his pound of flesh.
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>>1220891
Roarke's not a sadist. >>1220904 is the way to go.
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>>1220909
>Maybe we could keelhaul her, though I don't know how that would work in space.
put her in a space suit and bolt it to the front of the flag ship, then try going through a gate and see what happens.
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>>1220913
You don't have to be a sadist to torture someone whose done you wrong on Bethany's level.
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>>1220909
Meh. Torture talk is boring to me, delaying the end and all that. Horrible cowardly people like Bethany will do anything to survive. To delay death just a little more. Dying is the worst thing. Defeating her, crushing her totally and completely, just ending it. No fanfare. Nothing to signify she means anything.
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>>1220922
Ooo, that sounds like fun. But i dont think we'll get anywhere near a gate.

>>1220909

Or we give her a spacewalk at the front of our ship. We bolt her to the prow and wait for the air to runout
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>>1220909
A pound of flesh can be given in many ways, but with all the shit she pulls and Fairchild being close, the moment we have her in our hands is the moment we execute her. She will not escape. she will not try to take us with her. She will not have a fancy funeral. We can even tell her how she will have nothing, not even a note. Our hate will be focused on simply erasing her and making it so there is not even a note of her deeds. All her actions will be for nothing and that will make those 2 minutes hell for her. Then we throw away the remains and give her nothing else.
She's a spiteful bitch. Making a grand display gives her attention even in death and Fairchild's faction an excuse. The worst we can do to both of them is simply crushing their dreams in a moment.
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>>1220923
You kinda do.

Also, the only two deaths I actually would hate her for are Ozark's and Cassius's. Ozark's was cruel and Cassius's was plain murder. Her attempted murder of Athena and her father is also on the list. I'm not going to hold the people she killed in battle against her.
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>>1220909
Roarke's thing is being better than that though. Just killing her is best.
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>>1220932
I get what your saying and it does make sense, but I don't think that is anywhere near as bad as scaphism or being drawn and quartered. Also theres the fact that as a pirate and a ruler you have to show people the consequences of acting against you. Thats why you had gruesome deaths done to people so others won't try anything.

>>1220939
>the only two deaths I actually would hate her for
Thats the problem its not you, its Roarke. These were Roarke's friends and family and Roarke is not an understanding man.
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>>1220951
And Roarke knows that every person who joins him in battle knows what they're in for. If Roarke held a grudge against every person who killed one of his crewmen, he would have a lot more people on his kill list.
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“What does it do?” You poke it.

“Roarke...” There's danger in Karen's voice. You feel her lifting up the back of your jacket and your shirt. Wait, why is she doing that? “Put me down. Now.”

“No, really, what does it do?” You've never backed down from a challenge in your life! Well, that's not technically true, you're a very practical man, but backing down from Karen just isn't your style.

She sticks her hand down the back of your pants, grabs ahold of the waistband of your underwear, and pulls it tight between your buttocks, “Targeting weak spots, destroyer mode engaged~” She grins, and starts to pull upward.

You have never let go of her so fast in your life. That's just evil! You shoot a hurt look at her as you straighten up your clothes, and she hops back up onto her workbench, hugging the glass case in her arms, “Unfair.” You tell her.

She sticks her tongue out, “You do unfair things all the time. Call it an occupational hazard, darling husband of mine.” She smiles. Not a smug smile, but that cute little one you're used to seeing whenever she explains things to you, “This is apparently called a mandrake, after the semi-mythological member of the nightshade family that reputedly screamed when pulled out of the ground. Don't look so impressed, I looked up the origin of the name on the holonet. It's a psychoreactive genetically engineered plantform apparently of similar origin to the Green Men Bio-Armors.”

“I don't want a Bio-Armor.” Your blood runs cold at the thought.

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>>1220951
..Thunderbird, I am suggesting 2 minutes of drills and chainsaws slowly biting into her cockpit, then shredding into her flesh while Queen is playing. Roarke is no tyrant. He is not Fairchild who would have a elaborate plan for her mental destruction. He is not Beth who takes joy in such suffering. We do it like Roarke does everything; with a song, max cool, and with his own hands.
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>>1220968
You mean the Green Skulls who Roarke had every single one killed?
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>>1220972

What.

What if we test the rock explosion fist on her.
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>>1220883

The thing is, Roarke's known for a good, long time now that the First Mate was someone in Fairchild's camp. He knew that the person who killed his brother was someone close to her. From Lysa, he learned that it's specifically one of Fairchild's aides. Now, he'll know the name. He has no reason to be berserk with anger at this point.

Berserk comes later, when her throat is within reach of his fingers.
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>>1220986
>deathpunch.gif
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>>1220972
Really, we should be looking at helping her resolve her childhood trauma and misandry, eventually welcoming her into the loving embrace of our Harem.

Wait, I was thinking of Fairchild.

Bethany can be straight up killed.
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>>1220992
>wanting to help Fairchild

This ain't shonen boyo.

She's also probably the worst example of a human being we have ever seen in this quest. And we have spoken with a filthy scavvie.
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>>1220989
Either case, the wedding outfits best be bulletproof, with some sturdy head gear. With some anti-poison in case Cabot tries to do to us what she did with our brother, by using a poison knife.
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>>1220982
I'm talking the average Jovian Pilot who might have killed one of the Kestrels in battle. Is such a person worth torturing to death?
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>>1220992
She's an old maid by now she has no place in the harem

>>1221009
Thats why we demand Cabot at the start of the negotiations regardless of who we give Lori too.
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>>1221018
No, but they didn't kill two of our closest friends, our captain, and our brother.
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>>1221019
> Not liking Christmas Cake

Fuck you.
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>>1221023
If she can't bear children then she's not worth waifuing
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>>1221027
You talking shit about Sam now?
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>>1221027
So that's why you don't like BR. Now it makes sense.
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>>1221023
See, with a christmas cake it silently implies she is sweet. Fairchild meanwhile, is a bitter old crone in mind and soul with a sour disposition. I will savor her sweet defeat and drink her salty tears.
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She frowns at you, “Good, because this isn't one. Loriette says...or rather, one of her technicians did, she doesn't even pretend to be interested in the scientific details and started feeding me a bunch of theomystical mumbo-jumbo until she started getting embarrassed that she couldn't answer my questions...that this isn't nearly as complicated, and is in fact one of the many lesser components of what makes a proper Bio-Armor. It's...sort of like a supplementary HMIS that reacts by lending additional speed and power when you're in an extreme emotional state. Of course, there's a downside, when you're utterly depressed or spent it's not as strong, but it takes an EXTREME emotion to activate it and even then it's chancy.”

You adjust your shades in silence, Karen adjusts her glasses in exactly the same way at the same moment and continues talking, “Lori says she's never gotten it to activate for hers, even when she fought you. I think that's why she got all religious, it's kind of embarrassing for her but apparently most of the Paladins have never really had to activate it when their regular mecha are so strong to begin with. Although, if they're so hard to use, I wonder why the Lady gives them to her people in the first place?” She frowns at it. “I'm not dumb, Roarke, trust me when I say I'm on the lookout for any sign of mind-altering spores or properties, and I've been doing a full chemical analysis of the nutrient gel every few hours to make sure it's not excreting anything that would, say, make you susceptible to suggestion or exert direct control over your nervous system. That's a wife's job, after all.” She kisses you, pushes you into a chair, and seats herself on your lap, petting you while she talks.

“That's why I trust you. As much as I tease you, it's because I know you, and I know you can handle it. There's nobody else I place my life into the hands of the way I do with you.” You kiss her in reply, putting your arms around her and letting her snuggle with you.

“So...you're not going to throw it out of the airlock? I didn't want to bias you, but Lori...Lori really has it bad for you, Roarke. I really think she DOES see this as something significant. A flower without compare.” She smiles, “Don't tell Samantha I'm sticking up for Lori like this, or Clemmy. I don't want them angry at me.”

“I won't. So, as long as you take your time and study it thoroughly, test it often, and get as many details as you can on what it will or won't do, you have my permission to work with it and, hopefully, install it on the Kaiser eventually. I trust both of you, even when it's a dangerous idea.” You wink at her.

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>>1221021
I actually think Ozark was taken out by being swarmed from all the other green skulls. Since his mech was easy to pick out from everyone else's.
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>>1221043
His cockpit was crushed so he couldn't be taken out of it and would die slowly.
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>>1221021
If Louis and Thelma had been killed by an average UJCIDF grunt, would Roarke hold it against them?

I don't see Roarke holding deaths in battle against others. The grudge against Cabot comes from the latter two deaths.

Admittedly, I'm mildly conflicted over him I'd feel if I was faced with a guy who killed two of my friends in battle. If he was an asshole, I'd probably kill him.
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>>1221045
I have the original post from Wong. He was warn down and taken apart from lots of harpies. No mention of being targeted specifically to be slowly killed in his cockpit. Besides I figure that would be pretty damn hard to do on purpose.
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>>1221031
Why would I talk shit about best girl?

>>1221034
I wrote a long post about why I don't like him.

>>1221055
Once again it isn't what you would do its what Roarke would do. Roarke murdered all the Green Skulls to avenge his crew and captain, I don't think he would have a problem killing someone who killed a close friend of his. Besides he used to be a gang banger for years.
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Shit. Emergency question, does anyone have those cool SOUL C icons someone whipped up or remember the thread they were in?
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>>1221069
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/1146955/
ctrl F for logo.
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>>1221067
Yes, but he did just that. Murder the green skulls. He did not torture them or put them through a living hell. Galbadie got missiled to death and that was enough. The Bosun exploding was good too. The way I see it, even after all she has done, she does not get a special death. she will die like a pirate. Not as SOUL, not as a Jovian, but as a first mate who abandoned her post, did us no good, and given less fan fare than galbadie.
>>1221069
Sure. Want me to post them since I made them?
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>>1221067

There's a question of motive. There's a difference between, say, losing Thelma and Louis because some UJCIDF officer who was just doing his job outfought your squad and brought them down trying to stop you from raiding a ship and what happened in this case. Namely, a notoriously vicious pirate fleet left their turf, came to yours, ambushed you WITH the backing of a corrupt Jovian high officer, and caused the suffering of a ton of people...which the person who shot your friends gloated about...as part of a bid for self-advancement even if it was cloaked in patriotic speech.

Not all "my friends died" scenarios are equal and Samantha isn't wrong in her assessment of Roarke.
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>>1221081
The only reason we didn't torture them was the fact they died before we got our hands on them.
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>>1221066
Went back. In the OP of thread 4
>The front of the chest and the cockpit in the lower portion of the head have been crushed like a cheap can
And he couldn't be taken out so Roarke mercy killed him. Bethany's the one that crushed it.
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>>1221081

Please do!
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>>1221081
Galbadie didn't just die to missile spam. He died to Oda's missile spam. And it was hilarious.
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>>1221095
Alright. Delphinus first.
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>>1221067
I gave my own personal take in addition to what I think Roarke would do.

There's a difference between Murder and killing. Roarke killed off the Green Skills for reasons beyond just avenging his crew and Captain.

I believe Roarke wouldn't go out of his way to hunt down someone who killed one of his friends on the battlefield. Cabot is a special case because she killed Ozark and Cassius.
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>>1221102
Always forgetting the extra i. Based it off of Amuro's emblem too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKCCNMyKNJc
Pixy next,
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>>1221111
And here is the Squilla.
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By the way, my personal take on this is that Roarke is okay with brutally killing someone in a painful way, such as beating them to death with his bare fists or crushing their cockpit ball with the Knuckle Kaiser's fists, but he doesn't go in for actual Ramsay Bolton shit and torturing people.
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>>1221118
>beating them to death with his bare fists
Thats good enough of a middle road, as long as its a public execution.
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>>1221118
We COULD kill her by hooking her up to a nutrient IV and making her watch the Star Wars Christmas Special for every waking moment until it killed her.
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>>1221067
>I wrote a long post about why I don't like him.

I mean shit I know it's the internet but it isn't THAT impossible to see a joke. Slow your roll, tex.
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>>1221093
"Apparently his Master Harpy was the first thing the Green Skulls came after, and although he shot down plenty of lesser Harpies they wore him down and tore his mech apart."

And this was in thread 2. To essentially cut someone in half with crushed metal, but keep them alive for a while because of pinching the organs and shit...is extremely difficult. At the time Bethany liked missiles, no way she could do something like that on purpose.
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>>1221134
>The cockpit has been crushed around Captain Ozark like a fist
Also thread 4.
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>>1221132
Don't worry, I said it to myself in a humorous tone. Just listen to the wording.
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>>1221128
Why do you want to give the attention whore a chance to become a Martyr for SOUL and living eternally as the space bitch equivilent of a dindu nutthin?
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>>1221137
Okay dude. I already posted that he was swarmed by harpies. You can keep beating this horse, but it's plenty dead already. You have your head cannon I'll have mine.
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Karen smiles back, “I won't let anything bad happen. Aside from grandpa and Doctor Clancy and our other techs, my mechbay is mine. I don't have any bureaucrats giving me a timetable or telling me how to run my own project, I can do it as safely and effectively as possible...especially with the credits you give me to work with. Honestly, you're kind of weird, you have a lot of cash and you don't spend hardly any of it on anything but old music, gifts for us, and your mech.”

You shrug, “I grew up without a lot of credits, some habits are hard to break. By the way, those are some, uh, oddly specific worries you have.” You give her a curious glance.

She nods, “There is ONE concern. Loriette and the other Paladins were genetically altered, right? Part of that alteration was to make the mental load of this system lighter on them. Now, when Samantha and the others got back from Qu'lir with a successfully delivered invitation, they had some interesting information for me in particular. First, SOUL isn't as badly off as we thought. They have a new team, and they're the strongest ones yet as far as I can tell, plus an awful lot of minions under their command. SOUL isn't just about test pilots and experimental showpieces anymore, they're giving these to real aces like the Blue Knight. One of that team's members is riding a Jovian...um, what's the word I'm looking for? Copy? Rip-off? No, no, that's not right. It's a Jovian take on the idea of a Paladin, complete with mandrake and Jovian technology from Project Skywalker incorporated into its weapons systems.” She picks up her PC and opens an image file, displaying a gaunt purple-and-green mech, its mouth open in a roar, standing in a devastated cityscape. From the shadows on the pavement you can see that other mecha are hovering overhead, and a plasma bolt is striking the purple one, “This is it. When first activated, it went berserk.”

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I mean, we could go for an old fashioned lynching. all we'd need is some rope, a beam, two kegs of beer and a can of fuel. Just call up the whole crew and make a day of it
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>>1221144
Why does anybody kill anybody publicly? To show people what happens if you fuck with Roarke's family. Yes Roarke is a scary dude already, but when its publicly shown him beating someone who attacked his family to death, people aren't going to want to target our family. Its why people were drawn and quartered and all kinds of thing. And they can't make her a martyr if she executed for murdering our family and we can demand that the Jovians verify that.
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>>1221160
we need a tree for a proper lynching
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>>1221182
>tfw you grow a fucking tree just to kill someone

Now that is some patient vengeance.
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>>1221148
Ozark was crushed in his cockpit and was stuck dying inside it, so Roarke mercy killed him on the station the Rhinehawk had docked at. Maybe some Green Skull Harpies helped Cabot do it, but he didn't die in in the fight. But, I guess I might be wrong about it being intentionally drawn out. We can ask Wong.

>>1221156
Hey Wong, when you get done with this section can you confirm whether or not that Bethany crushed Ozark's cockpit specifically to kill him slowly?
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And to add to that point I'm sick of people constantly going on about how anybody we kill is going to be a martyr. They aren't going to make every Johnny no nuts who dies fighting the Kestrels a national hero. Sure if we killed Jesus or Lysa in battle sure they would play them off, but a no named grunt isn't getting made into a Jovian hero.
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>>1221166
That, or it proves you're a tyrant and nothing short of a full scaled war effort should be done in order to kill you.
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>>1221186
>we're gonna kill ya but it's gonna take around 20-30 years for the tree to grow a strong enough branch to use, so we'll just throw ass into cryo till then
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>>1221194
* >your ass
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>>1221190
Your not a tyrant for killing someone who is a criminal. If so then almost every ruler in history is a tyrant.
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>>1221187
I don't think Roarke blames Green Skull First Mate for crushing the cockpit pod of Captain Ozark. But rather for leading the Green Skulls and supplying them with enough military equipment that they were able to crush the Iron Kestrels and forcing them to flee.
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>>1221166

All I'm going to say is this, don't start planning Major Cabot's execution before you get the chance to do it.
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>>1221189
People are arguing that publicly executing Cabot would make her a martyr. Beating her to death with our bare hands wouldn't make her a martyr. Doing it on live TV would.
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>>1221166
Yes, but that sort of thing can be done easily with Fairchild. Also, the greenskulls WERE an example of that. The entire green skull arc was a case of 'You pissed off Roarke constantly. don't do that' to anyone with spacetube. If Fairchild tries something? Our fight with her is broadcasted and that continues that trend. But the thing is, to do any of that, we do need to get her first. Then we have to hold her when Fairchild can try something and Bethany can escape. We will have plenty of people to make examples of from Fairchild's camp. But Bethany herself must be dealt with cleanly and without a pause. Shake her hand and cause her head to explode. Poke her in the sides and send them into orbit. Make it sudden and horrifying, but do not give the escape artist with a mean streak a chance to weasle out of it like she always does.
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>>1221205
If only Roarke was more keen on using guns we could just pull a quick one on her the moment we see her with a nifty sleeve-gun.

Go in for a handshake and BAM right in the heart. Shit's cash.
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>>1221207
If she wasn't a criminal who murdered our brother than yes she would be. Most people would understand why Roarke killed her.
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>>1221202
>killing someone who is a criminal
It depends on how you find them guilty. Guilty in a kangaroo court and guilty in just court are 2 different things, Thunder,
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>>1221221
I know the difference, thats why we demand Fairchild also back up our decision with the proof she has. If she doesn't then maybe we just release that information we got from Shinji's dad.
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You imagine the Knuckle Kaiser going berserk. It's an ugly, ugly mental image, “Then we can't risk it.”

She holds her hand up, “However, Samantha charmed, bribed, and bought beers for enough low-level techies to get some salient details. First, the pilot was an inexperienced rookie, a teenager. Chronic insecurities and all. Secondly, all of its weapon systems were installed and active during the preliminary test run. You've been piloting for over a decade, you're one of THE top aces in the Solar System, and most importantly you have trained to handle an increased mental strain from your HMIS, inadvertently, though the exercises we used to teach you to control your drones. According to Loriette, a number of Paladins have drones, and I think this is why.”

“...So wait, did we actually need to go to 16-Psyche at all if we're just going to install this? We could have copied the Anseis' system and...” You hush as she puts a finger to your lips.

“And then we wouldn't have a heavily-fortified base set up for mecha experimentation and construction. Besides, the information and designs there are much more modern and effective than the Anseis' original drones. You can see through yours and manipulate objects, that takes fine control.” She winks at you, “Courtesy of a woman who adores you.”

She flips to the next image on her PC, showing the same mech flying in formation behind a heavily armored, toadlike mech that resembles a scaled-up Warmouth with two eyes in place of the typical eyeslit and...something else. This one catches your attention. It's blue. It has an icon shaped like a stylized dolphin whose body is curved into the shape of a D on one shoulder. It looks very much like a Pumpkinseed II on the scale of a SOUL mech, bigger and more intimidating in every way than its predecessor. Karen doesn't notice, “Now, you see here, though, there were no further problems in controlling it after the initial activation. You have a very strong will, I know you'll be able to handle this.”

“It's not going to grow a face, is it?” You ask worriedly, not sure why the thought bothers you so much.

She wrinkles her cute little nose, “No, of course not.”

“...Could it make the Kaiser's face itself move?” You ask, hopefully. You're not sure why THIS thought encourages you so much.

A grin spreads across Karen's pretty lips, “Why of course, Roarke, what an absolutely intriguing suggestion that I am completely capable of making manifest for you.” She kisses your cheek, “After all, I love making your dreams come true.”

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>>1221216
Propaganda would ensure that Cabot would be made into a Hero. Brutally murdering her and televising the act would be giving Fairchild a massive amount of material to use against us.
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>>1221189

How you kill them definitely matters.
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>>1221225
>we demand Fairchild also back up our decision with the proof she has

Nope, Fairchild won't do it, even under blackmail. Best case when we release the footage, Fairchild is transferred to another front, and no longer in charge of SOUL. Worst case, Jove buckles down and wage war against Roarke for spilling state secrets.
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>>1221251
A quick pop in the cockpit, what are we looking at then?
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>>1221238

I suppose that, too, depends on what the public knows about Bethany Cabot. Fairchild isn't the only Jovian high officer, after all.
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>>1221256

Cabot or Random Jovian Grunt, and what are the circumstances?
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>>1221266
Random Jovian Grunt while Roarke is on a raid. Also out of curiosity minor ace same circumstances.
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>>1221272
same as a cop getting shot in the street, I reckon.
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>>1221257
Well, if Cabot's crimes were released before the execution it'd probably work better. Would also depend on the full extent of her crimes. Killing pirates is no big deal. Killing Cassius could be spun as eliminating a spy or killing a criminal in the process of a crime. Now, if she committed some real crimes while working with the Green Skills, that would be something we could use to nail her to the wall.
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“Best of all, our data confirms that Avalon can't just seize control of one of these. If they could, the Paladin on Qu'lir wouldn't have gotten killed by this squad.” She grins smugly, “I told you I think of everything.”

“You know, I heard from your grandpa once that music helps plants grow, do you think I could...give this little guy a proper education?” You smile.

She sighs, “I was hoping you'd ask. Although, it's doubled in size since I got it. It was a bitty little thing when Loriette gave it to me yesterday, they really do grow fast.”

“Maybe being raised by someone who loves as much as you does that?” You nip her ear and she laughs, pushing on your chest.

“I think it's gotten bigger already.” She quips, glancing at the mandrake as you put on your mixtape. You've got a fair number of songs that aren't for fighting, but for times like this.

You roll your eyes, “You're not talking about the mandrake, are you?”

She shifts her butt around on your lap, “I actually was, but now that you mention it...you have been an awful tease.” She grins, and claps her hands to turn down the lights.

Neither of you notice that, in fact, the mandrake does grow slightly. Perhaps in response to the music, or perhaps in response to your lovemaking as it spills out of the chair and onto the floor. The sounds vibrate the glass and send ripples through the nutrient gel, the energy reaching the infant plant, nurturing it, and strengthening it.

It's going to be a powerful one.
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>>1221272

People who engage in combat take their own lives into their hands, that's just a fact. Mohammed's old commander didn't become a martyr, for example. You killed him pretty damned dead.
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>>1221283

>Some kamen Saracen hijacks the Space Jam during the finale, posts vids and expose on Cabot shooting and killing Roarkes brother.

>This gets broadcast throughout the solar system as you can imagine folks on jupiter and mars would be watching.

>No one would blame him when roarke just goes for the throat
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>>1221287
>Mandrake gains power the more aroused Roarke is
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>>1221298
so the power of the mandrake will be proportional to the hardness of his boner?
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>>1221295
Thank you, now people can stop using that stupid argument every fight we get into
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>>1221287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeUMCgZdEyU
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>>1221287
Hey Wong, odd question but is Flint a veteran of the Sidereal War or just a normal Ex-UJCIDF commander?

And how many veterans are actually still active around now?
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>>1221287
Man, with the way Roarke gets around, this thing is going to grow like crazy if love and sex empowers it. Actually, emotions may just be the catalyst. Stronger emotions mean better nutrition.
>>1221298
So +2 all the time then.
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>>1221298
Keeping nudie pics of the waifus in the cockpit should work just fine
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>>1221308
I'm pretty sure that Wong settled that argument with "Roarke doesn't aim for the cockpit but doesn't pull punches either."
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>>1221328
Doesn't stop anons from saying it every fight regardless if we have time or not to spend taking our heads and arms.
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>>1221324
And that is how Roarke gets a +3.
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>>1221328
Except in certain cases (like that raid on the treasure ship).
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>>1221308

Let me add to it.

Roarke did offer the Martians a chance to surrender and they didn't take it. If Roarke just decided "Cabot is on that civilian shuttle, fuck it, I'm going to unannounced attack it and rip it in half" and some brave little Bluegill pilot with a wife and three kids jumps in the way and dies holding Roarke off? Yeah, that'd end up on the news.

>>1221318

There have been smaller planetary conflicts since the Great Sidereal War, and Flint is a veteran of those, I think he might have been a bit young for the Great Sidereal War despite the fact that I'm momentarily blanking on how long ago EXACTLY it was.
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>>1221356
Granted Roarke wouldn't do that, but I get what your saying.
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>>1221356
>There have been smaller planetary conflicts since the Great Sidereal War, and Flint is a veteran of those, I think he might have been a bit young for the Great Sidereal War despite the fact that I'm momentarily blanking on how long ago EXACTLY it was

Thirty Years. Asking because Flint seems like he would have been around in that time period. Thanks for clarifying.

Incidentally, are there any pilots who can definitively claim they killed a Green Man in Bioarmor? I know the SSL relied on human wave tactics to kill them so I'm guessing that most of the pilots who actually killed a Green Man probably died in the process but I'm wondering if there are any who lived to tell the tale.
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>>1221338

The battlefield is an uncertain place. You never really know the outcome of your actions until they come back to you.
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>>1221383
We know Pops and Priest tortured a Greenman so I'm sure they killed it. I would think Joe killed one too at least. Same with Master Asia if he did fight along with just training the team.
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>>1221393
Good point. Admittedly, they, along with Merrow, are the major living exceptions to those human wave tactics. I'm wondering about some lucky bastard who was still standing after drowning a Green Man in bodies.
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>>1221383

Yes, there are. The most obvious and best-known example of those still alive? Caesar's dad, Rudolph Merrow, the most famous surviving hero of Jupiter.

The one on Qu'lir was badly weakened and trying to possess a Paladin using grafts it made in less than a minute of work. A fully-active Bio-Armor could reasonably be expected to possess multiple Malleable Energy Pools (the ones that represent shapeshifting solid mass rather than energy), with quite possibly unlimited variety on the weapons those pools can transform into, regeneration, drones that are actually smaller mecha with a human worshipper permanently integrated into them, spore bombs, low MV...

...oh, and a mandrake. Which they invented and could, quite possibly, activate much more easily than a human pilot could.

Sorry for the vague language. I know exactly what a Bio-Armor can do, of couse, but you're operating off what you've seen on Qu'lir, in old newsreels, and vids like Space Avengers.
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>>1221411

Definitely. Here's one everyone, including me, forgot.

Roarke's mom. The Green Man made it through their assault and got to the artillery Garrons she was stationed with before Roarke's dad rescued her.
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>tfw Akai is perfectly the way you imagined her.
>tfw Karen talks to her with that tone Wong always use to scold bursts of autism.
>tfw she is going to end helping making the Templar to prove her love.
>tfw she actually did the "eating in rooftops" joke before I got the chance to use that.
>tfw some random anon wants her to win and Thunder thinks that I'm samefagging.

Wong, I love you, this is just "AMAZING" as Avalon said... Can't wait to see how that shenanigans will unfold.
Also...
>Giving the sacred and legendary oda's frame to a missile user.
[BANZAIng Intensifies]
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>>1221417
>A fully-active Bio-Armor could reasonably be expected to possess multiple Malleable Energy Pools (the ones that represent shapeshifting solid mass rather than energy), with quite possibly unlimited variety on the weapons those pools can transform into, regeneration, drones that are actually smaller mecha with a human worshipper permanently integrated into them, spore bombs, low MV...
>...oh, and a mandrake. Which they invented and could, quite possibly, activate much more easily than a human pilot could.

Holy shit. How the fuck did the original King Swordfish or Joe in a Bluegill stand up to those? Skill can only account for so much.

>>1221425
Huh, that's pretty badass. Would most vets have just encountered the followers in the submecha?
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Wong will we deal with that Seven Lords group before the wedding?
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>>1221417
Definetly something to chew on. Likely thought controlled too. Still, just means we have to be smart.
In the meantime, I thought of a name for the third version of the kaiser with the mandrake; Knuckle Kaiser Rhapsody.
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>>1221461
Considering the German states feeling we have how about calling it The Iron Chancellor?
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>>1221448
Nah, they are the new Fairchild's allies and are going to attack us soon.
Then our pilots will end up in a special scene where they get to fight a horde of mooks and some officers and we'll see if they survive to be on next gen.
Also, ship combat and Roarke finally fighting Fairchild.
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>>1221461
>>1221471

Knuckle Kaiser "Imperial Rhapsody" Configuration.
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>>1221471
Seems like a downgrade name wise. Was thinking something musical as the add on. Got a bunch of good ones. Besides, with Rhaspodey, we could add a certain decal on a shoulder as well. Looks pretty kingly.
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>>1221481

They aren't fairchild's they're avalonian allies. Those mechs the girls were stuck in were from the belt and not of kestrel make.
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>>1221496
The idea is that as the belt is reborn as Eisentor the Kaiser is reborn as our Imperial Chancellor. Its a nod to Bismark and Chancellors relate to Justice and Foreign affairs which is funny to think of our mech as.
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>>1221443
>Holy shit. How the fuck did the original King Swordfish or Joe in a Bluegill stand up to those? Skill can only account for so much.

I was hoping someone would ask. Some of you are probably running some numbers through the ATM, and coming up with huge results, and that's fine. You're wondering just what this Anon I'm replying to is wondering.

See, none of those advantages (oh, and metaform limbs, which were common but not really THAT OP) add Kills to your Torso servo, and you can have a 1000 exp mech and if your torso is destroyed it's just as useless as a Harpy. Also, beam weapons, if they existed back then, were incredibly rare and experimental, meaning that you couldn't just whip out a reactive shield and wide-angle beam cannons and wipe out an army of humans, you have to get in there and get your feet dirty with physical shields, bio-acid missiles, and melee.

So you have Floyd Beck and Rudolph Merrow show up, in mecha that cost a fraction of what your Bio-Armor does, and Floyd opens up with the cannons on his drones and shreds your armor, then Merrow uses Caesar's charge move and spears you right in your cockpit before your mandrake even goes active, usually, because you have a hard time being afraid of two puny humans in their puny metal boxes.

As for Joe, Team Orange Pekoe didn't fight fairly at all. They didn't have assigned mecha until Joe got his Bluegill after the war itself, and many of their kills were actually out of mecha. Setting off a fuel-air bomb and destroying an entire city of spored humans to kill one Green Man was considered a perfectly fair tactic at the time, for example.


>Huh, that's pretty badass. Would most vets have just encountered the followers in the submecha?

Yes, but purely due to numbers, there just weren't a ton of Green Men.
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I'm going to be disappointed if one of the Jovian Aces doesn't pilot a mech called the Voltaire.
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>>1221498
Not exactly "Avalonian Allies" I think, they just sold it to Hastur(who is probably samson's chevalier) and probably willing to play mercenary for people too if that gives them power and the belt.
...And I'm somewhat expecting them to attack, but I also don't think that Duke Kirito would tell them to do it... So Fairchild is the only solid logic for an alliance if they want to get rid of us.
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>>1221509

You get a little too hung up on imitating particular cultures, man. Eisentor isn't 1:1 Germany, and that's a damned good thing.

Also, your earlier comment about Finn, the gods, and nookie? One time in the Eddas, Thor gets super serious and starts poem-rapping about the battles he's won and how awesome being a viking god is.

Odin looks at him and, in response to him taking his shit too seriously, responds with a poem of his own about all the women besides Thor's mom he's slept with. To his own son.
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>>1221514
>So you have Floyd Beck and Rudolph Merrow show up, in mecha that cost a fraction of what your Bio-Armor does, and Floyd opens up with the cannons on his drones and shreds your armor, then Merrow uses Caesar's charge move and spears you right in your cockpit before your mandrake even goes active, usually, because you have a hard time being afraid of two puny humans in their puny metal boxes.

... That's fucking beautiful. How come these tactics weren't adopted by more people? Or did they try and fail?
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>>1221519


Tomorrow, that question will be answered. Most of the scene answering it is prewritten, so it'll be quick.
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>>1221525
Then there is the fact that even if they meet the requirements, only about half of them go to valhalla. The other half goes to Freya's domain; where flowers and virtuous maidens reside. No real fighting or drinking, just flowers.
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>>1221525
Your right about the naming, I think its a cool name since its a nice reference and the fact our new nation is german for Iron Gate.

And ya the Gods did love sleeping with women no doubt, I didn't really want Finn to focus on women as much. But I left the character vague so you could do whatever you wanted with him. Besides the way you write him is great so no point changing it.
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>>1221525
There's also the time when Loki had a tug of war match with a goat but he tied the rope to his balls. Pretty sure he lost.
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>>1221530
I'd think that level of coordination in giant metal machines would be kinda hard to imitate easily.

Also random thought... most mecha combat in this is small adaptable squads and single combatants as I understand it (I'm probably wrong in some way so feel free to correct me)...
did anyone ever try and go all roman legionnaire(If i'm thinking of the right group) with their mecha? like linked formations with overlapping beam shields etc. I don't know how effective it would be in a 3d combat environment like space but I like the thought of cooperative mech tactics and systems.

Basically did anyone try shieldwalls in space?
If not I think I want to try and make a mech system for that sort of thing....Just not sure how to make a shield cover another mech besides the one holding the shield...
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>>1221557
We talked about this a bit sometimes threads ago. I think we came up with using shield cubes instead of walls, but missiles would fuck them up.
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>>1221557
Linking together like that is more of a liability in space than an advantage.

However, you can link weapons across multiple Mechs.
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>>1221530
Well Floyd and Rudolph's machines, despite being very cheap compared to a Bio armor, were still they cutting edge skunk-works prototype deal weren't they? So small numbers for sure. And then the HMIS and combat against the greenmen was a recent, as in holy shit that just happened, development. Kinda like asking why armaments in the early 20th century didn't have the developments and doctrines then that they have now almost a century later. That said it was total war, I'm sure the orange Pekoe way and strategic mass concentration were the norm because they were what was on the shelf for options when the war broke out. Kinda like in UC gundam that when zeon went seig all the feddies had at first were conventionals (and as an aside my God they [at least everyone but the most unrepentant top brass, which is actually almost all the brass] must have been kicking themselves years later for stifling MS development in the early months of the conflict), so that was what they had to throw into the slaughter for the first while.
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>>1221530

That's just it, though, they were adopted by more people...eventually. After the war, there wasn't a need for big mecha using teamwork to take down even bigger mecha, so it became more cost efficient to fund lots of line mecha like Bluegills...

...until the establishment of SOUL. Now, as you may have noticed, SOUL squads tend to all have a vaguely similar makeup.

One close-combat specialist (Rudolph Merrow)
One ranged expert (Floyd Beck)
One support person who can do both (Ji Xifeng, the Undefeated's daughter and pilot of NaNa-01)

The specifics of these tactics frequently vary as members of any of those three specialties might have some other talent. For example SOUL A (original) had a close combat specialist whose mech was relatively fragile but had amazing stealth capabilities and could stunlock enemies for her brother's beefy missiles-and-axes support mech to tear them apart. SOUL B (original) had Clemmy violating everything with her insane single-strike damage (-4 SP automatically on hit from her quad-linked sabers) meaning nothing can traverse the 10km distance to reach Jesus with his sniper rifle, and if anything gets past Clemmy their support mech can cloak too and sneak up for the backstab.
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>>1221576
Speaking of Ji, I know both Floyd and Merrow were in love with her. But was she in love with either of them?
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>>1221557
Shield walls don't really do much when the enemy can just smash through them. And what Thunder says >>1221565 is right. A blast weapon with enough kills would be focused on those shields. If everyone guarded, it would do all that damage on one spot. With 20 kills, that is enough to take out a heavy striker arm; the main stay frame for the war, shield and all.
In a 3d enviroment, dispersal and speed are important. Get out of the enemy's line of sight, increase the gap between you until you are out of their range, or adjust it so you can make full use of yours.
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>>1221576

Come to think of it.

will Soul C end up taking the namesake of Soul A?
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>>1221572
hmm what about one dude with reflector/shield bits who acts as an extra layer of defense for more offensively oriented team-mates? just give the bits enough program space to follow a designated ally and parry shit that comes their way? hell you could even stick cheap ams systems on them.
eh that would be hell on the shield pilot though, so much split focus...
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>>1221581

You don't know.

>>1221582

This.
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>>1221599
Falls into the same problem. AMS are personal or close range for the most part and the damage would be focused on defenses. It might work for 1 blast, but thats it. That goes doubly for energy and reactives because 20 kills would more than likely be twice over their SP.
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>>1221576
Interesting.

I'm guessing bombarding a Green Man with Incendiary missiles wasn't a viable option at the time?
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>>1221606
Thanks for running Wong, this tourney is going be awesome, like most things you write XD

Now, back to bed.
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>>1221583

No. We call them C out of habit, but that's no longer how SOUL squads are designated. Rather than being teams of individuals who act separately, it's a small army of special forces led by aces. On paper, SOUL C would be Wedge Squad like in the regular forces, or maybe SOUL Squad Wedge depending on how formal you're being, identified by commander's surname rather than military designation. Normally, odds are good that the squad would be ONE proper SOUL mech in command, two MP or elite line units, and possibly a second squad set up similarly as backup, so the commanding officer and second would both be SOUL mecha supported by strong mooks.

Amos' squad is an exception because they are heroes and have worked together forever. Similarly, the Fleur Trio are a specialist stealth squad and don't need the usual setup. In theory, Fairchild could have Wedge's squad broken up and assign them to different groups, but it would be a waste, so odds are good they'll be kept as-is or...if sheer brute force is needed, assign two MP or elite line mecha to each of the three members to form a three-squad group led by Amos.
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>>1221646

So instead of SOUL Teams, they'll now transit to SOUL-led Wings. Interesting.
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>>1221610
>>1221582
And to cut off concerns or worries, consider this;
A basic 20 kill missile is 2 cp, 1 ton. A blast of 5 is a 7x multiplier. That is a large enough radius that even if you fail the indirect roll, you would still would hit your mark and then some. This is a 14 CP missile. With 1 CP, this can be two handed by a heavy striker. A 15 cp missile could very well destroy hundreds of cp worth of shields, weapons, and arms. That, is with the first shot. Do not bunch up your forces.
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>>1221610
aren't 20K blast missiles expensive though and wouldn't the people targeted by them be fucked regardless then? at that point why not just have ships fire salvos of those at each other and ditch mecha entirely?

also at this point I'm thinking in terms of small mobile squads again, just with guard bits as an extra, not a legion of guard mechs and their attackers.

was able to make a decent Guard bit for 39.5 CP, it has a 11K beam shield (just enough to survive a 20K hit and not blow out entirely) and a 2K beam ams. The idea is to have it follow an ally while they fly about and do usual mecha maneuvering stuff.

When I asked about guard bits I really just wanted to know If I could make a FF paladin style mech that could cover its allies.
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>>1221646

To expand on this, you might see a setup like this when raw, naked force is needed. SOUL Squad Wedge would be broken into three squads assigned to the same mission. Amos himself would command two Pumpkinseed IIs, Garret with two Palomino IIs set up for burst fighting instead of sniping, and Simon with a pair of Warmouths rigged for melee and possibly equipped with grappling cables.

>>1221640

Goodnight BR, game resumes tomorrow.
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>>1221681
And so begins the era of meatshi-I mean wingmen. Could likely do that to our ace teams as well. Squads of 3 or 5. Just need to make sure their names can't be used for funny name combos. Like Slim Denim Jeans.
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>>1221697

At least those mechs aren't painted in a tan colour scheme.
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>>1221681
Thanks for running Wong.

BTW did we ever learn how the Thoroughbred-MP that became the Kaiser ended up in that Asteroid?

And can Roarke play his harmonica for the Mandrake?
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>>1221711
Oh, thats a good idea. Playing the harmonica for it to nurture that bond right away. Amos couldn't get close because that means it would bond with him instead of simon, but if it were roarke, that won't be an issue.
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>>1221711
Thoroughbred-MPs were used across the System as force multipliers. Either due to superstition or the intensity of the missions that the MP-frames found themselves in, most of them ended up scrapped or KIA respectively. Roarke's particular frame could have been a casualty of some mission long ago.
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>>1221202
Did you know that Vlad the impaler is a national hero in Romania? Turns out that impaling everyone who commits a crime really brings down the crime rate and impaling 30000 ottomans will make the rest of them chicken out and run away. The Romanians were big fans of all the no crime and no Muslim takeovers.
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>>1221417
So question, Wong. I'm looking at the Mecha Manuals and they're pretty neat, but one thing that drew my eye was the Hardshells. Would a 'Mandible' with thrusters be Paladin-tier?
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>>1222053
Here is the Mandible, if you don't got the Mecha Manual.
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>>1222074
And its bigger, meaner brother, the Gunder. I just ask out of curiosity, the Hardshells seem neat and I'm curious if the dudes who wrote the Mecha Manuals actually made decent mechs or not. With some thrusters (idle messing around let me fit MA8 thrusters into the Mandible), would they be pretty badass mechs?

Uh, yeah, also, big images. Sorry.
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>>1222053
Seems more like a babby bio-armor. Paladins are less organic and more ornate. The only real organic bit is the bio-core and from what we know, they have no thought control. Weapons and systems are a bit bland outside the multipliers too.
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Question: does the Blitz have guns on the underside of its carriage?
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>>1221677
because for the most part, blast missiles work best against bunched up groups before they mingle or seperate. If the enemy's armor is thick, all it would do is 5 kills a servo for 4 servos. So for heavy striker armor, it's just -1 sp. If you target the mech, then you have the issue of them using their ams.
As for why not ditch mechs all together, the answer is something we see today. Air craft carriers. Mobility is a great resource and while the ships are big and strong, they tend to lack that. Firing salvos of those missiles is generally a bad idea as well since you run into DANGER CLOSE quite easily. Likewise, missiles can be used up pretty fast in a large battle and even with their range, they might not be able to hit extreme range fighters like jesus, stealth mechs like the betta, or mechs that are able to close the gap instantly. If given Gamma armor, then blast weapons become a joke.
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>>1220970
And just now I realized something; the mech jock got wedgie'd by the nerd.
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>>1221633

Incendiary isn't all THAT good, most aren't as strong as the one dropped on the Father of Qu'lir, and a proper warrior Green Man might have had the capability to shoot down missiles.
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>>1221677

Or you could have two mecha with decent offensive and defensive options, just a thought.
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>>1222676
It turns a 5K shot into effectively a 9K shot which is nice. That said with the lethality of fights you might not survive to see the whole damage be done.
>>1222691
Like the Vayeate and the Mercurius?
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>>1222074

How the dickens did they get the MV to 0?
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>>1222703
Not exactly. If the enemy has beta armor, then the 5 is the only one that matters.
>>1222718
Looks like the powerplant is super charged, thought control gives a +2 bonus, and techno-organic gives a boost of +1.
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>>1222753
You have to question how useful that 0 MV is when you can just hover a few hundred meters over it and shoot at it. I guess in a setting where flying mechs are rare it would be pretty nasty.
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>>1222761
It's not really a good machine. Look at all that free space, that alpha armor that serves no purpose unless you are fighting infantry(and no anti-personnel weaponry if it is suppose to.) those fractal spaces. That lack of stereo system. And a 6k-AP weapon that is two handed. It's like it wants to be bullied!
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>>1222792
Alpha armor might be kinda sort of useful for catching that little bit of damage that comes through your shield or from the arse end of an incendiary weapons damage but thats about it. And it doesn't even have a shield in the first place.
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>>1222847
Exactly. The thing could make a Da-2 shield good and it doesn't even have it. It's not even like it's expensive; 3 cp to one hand a sword, then add the shield to the other limb. It's weight is in the bracket where adding a 10k shield isn't a problem! Oh, and because it's a techno organic, each missing servo gives it a -1 to MV while a high kill attack hurts the pilot in the head meats. Our 140 models could bully this thing. Shinobi harpies with mines could bully this thing. A good majority of our machines could bully this thing!
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>>1222923
Regular harpies could bully it since it has zero range options.
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>>1222932
It's sad. It's a sad little bio-weapon mech that gets sadder when you realize the thing is sentient. That AI is high enough for such a thing and the thought control would further improve that. Some cruel monster gave this thing sentience, made it to fight, and won't even properly armor or gear it up. So many flavors of sad that I could open up a Baskin Robins.
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>>1222963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ-ggzfdsMs
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>>1222963
Fun note, they're passive omnivores that live in peace in the wilds. They create symbiotic bonds with humans that spend time in their presence, and are as loyal as dogs, eagerly placing their 'pilots' life as a higher priority than their own. All their armor and weapons are naturally grown (they're actually ancient bioweapons that went wild after their creators died out or disappeared).
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>>1222973
Thats slightly depressing. Your big robot buddy just wants to help out but he can be soloed by anything with 8 MA, a gun and some time to kill
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Notice me Wong-sama.
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Also holy shit people talking about dominions 4. Abysia a best even if they actually suck.
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>>1222987
So we've established that the Mandible is a poor wreck, but what about the Gunder?

Besides, obviously, the lack of Thrusters that is inherent to the world they are from.
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>>1223044
It's super tanky, but it has -5 MV, it's only ranged option has 150 meters of range, and it has 100 meters of movement a turn. A single Harpie could solo it, given enough time.
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>>1223044
Looks even worse to be honest. -5 MV, appalling speed, only melee weapons aside from some piddly inaccurate short range beam guns with a BV it'll never get much out of. Heavy armour, but even another ground bound mech could play keep away with ease.

Plus, if I'm reading the sheet right the IA is only level 2, which gives it a maximum of 4 on a roll. High portfolio for lots of skills, but they're not worth a damn. At least the mandible could take advantage of low MV to use co-pilot rules and get an extra action out of it.
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>>1223044
Well at least it can shoot at things and its pretty tanky with its mega heavy armor everywhere. -5 MV isnt even that bad when you consider it weighs 84 fucking tons.
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>>1222973
Man, I can't even bring myself to kill that sort of thing now. It'd be like shooting someone's big biomechanical dog. Just take away it's sword, trim it's nails, and make sure it has a leash. Maybe take it for walks on the asteroids to keep it in shape. Damn, how could they make something so sad?
>>1223044
It takes the issues with the Mandible and makes them worse with a pea shooter. What cruel soul would design such things?
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>>1223131
R. Talsorian Games.

And I'm still curious if some good thrusters could help. Like the Mandible can mount MA8 thrusters without any size efficiency used. Would that help? Probably not enough.The Gunder has enough space to fit some decent thrusters too.
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>>1223145
Well it would fly at about 10 MA thanks to the core, but at that point, there is a lot that can be done for it. Thought control works wonders with bit weapons so giving it a full set could help it a lot(and I don't think it feels pain from those). But as is, it's patching up something incredibly expensive with a lot of flaws and few fixes. Modifiers are nasty and as is, this thing without any good weapons is SOUL level in cost.
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>>1223145
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What a shame.
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>>1223185
Man, just leave the peaceful giant monsters be. Maybe have them help with the farming, but no thing deserves this level of bullying. Except Fairchild and Cabot, but I think the hard shells are more human than either of them at this point.
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>>1223131
I like 'em. They're not efficient designs in the slightest, but they're cool and fun and thematic, and that makes for a way more interesting game than munched out game mechanic abuse mechs.
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>>1223218
That's what I wanted to do with the Blitz originally, it would have been made from scraps of the ship Mai was stationed on and the original gun would have come off of it as well.

And then BR pointed out the length rules, and I couldn't figure out how a single person could create a 33 meter long tank on their own, in the middle of space.
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>>1223262
I know that feeling, I had to give up my idea of beam javelins
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>>1223218
Me too, that's why I brought them up in the first place.
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>>1223218

There's a difference between "cool but inefficient" and "500+ cp mech that can be cherrytapped to death by anything with a gun"
I love the concept of these,and i can see why the theme would stop it from having stuff like ranged weapons or flight thrusters, but would it really kill them to either make them faster or give them something like a returning melee weapon or an entangling melee weapon, to give them some punch at range?
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>>1223279
Or a shield at least.
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>>1223271
Give your beam javalins returning and say you have a chain on them.
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>>1223303
That was the plan but they would cost way too much with the pod and the damage I wanted. If we ever get to upgrade our characters mechs though.
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>>1223279
I think the idea is that you use them in a campaign where the things they might fight are in some way comparable in capabilities.
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>>1223309
What do you need a pod for?
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>>1223322
Hold the Javelins
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>>1223326
If they're hand held, you don't need to store then in a pod. They still have weight, but they're just stored on the mech instead of in it. I'm pretty sure that's how it works, anyway.
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>>1223335
I would have had three or four, plus with the Hrunting being so expensive I couldn't afford it.
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>>1223346
Wouldn't you only need 1 if it had Returning? You wouldn't need to pick it back up when you threw it.
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>>1223346
If you had returning you would only need one really, but yeah there's always upgrades.
Assuming he doesn't die because he cant bail out.
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>>1223362
>>1223364
Eh I get you would only need one, but having more is always good. And I imagine Finn will die pretty fast.
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>>1223309
I think mech upgrades might come, but at the same time I think it'd depend on what Roarke is investing in. Could be done like a Gherin's Greed game. Offers are put up and investments for better tech and machines can be done. Roarke is sitting on a lot of money. Might be good to invest in his kingdom.
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>>1223378
I agree, the most important thing for Roarke is to invest in his military. We need the most cutting line mechs and strong colony defenses. Following the Prussian method might be a good idea.
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>>1223384
I'd say getting the colonies of Psyche running would be good too. Become self sufficient in case of a siege and make it so we can choose when to hunt instead of having to make ends meet.
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>>1223373
Well if you ever want to revisit the idea, a 9K Javelin (capable of one hitting Pumpkinseed II Torsos) would cost 17.5 with SE and a 10K Javelin (capable of one hitting Medium Weight limbs with Light Heavy Armor) would cost 19.5 with SE.
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>>1223384
if they follow the Prussian example will that make Victor a Teutonic Knight?
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Am I an idiot for only realizing now that Thunder has been the Germanoboo to BR's weaboo?
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>>1223410
Yes. He's pretty blatant, though possibly in denial.
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>>1223410
I like Rome and Greece better, but German history and culture is interesting too.
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>>1223410
>not whermaboo
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>>1223421
The Wehrmacht was a very specific period of Germanic history. Thunder seems to like everything from way back to Frederick's time to Imperial Germany
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>>1223431
Weeaboo has little to do with Japanese culture as a whole too. It's just supposed to be easy to say and memorable.
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The romans were better in every way and if you say otherwise then you are either a plebeian or a barbarian
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>>1223446
Every way except for getting wrecked and falling apart because they were too lazy to do any work anymore.
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>>1223446
patricius fratrem meum
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>>1223466
Problem is you could say that about almost all empires though
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>>1223466
You plebeian! the reason they fell was because of self righteous politicians pissing all the money in the wind and never giving it to the army! this ment that there was to much land and not enough army! not because they were lazy!
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>>1223466
all empires fall
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>>1223483
>britain
when will they fall hmmm?
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>>1223494
They already did, same as the German empire. Sure the core country still exists, but the massive empire is fallen and gone.
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>>1223494
Falklands don't mean anything man
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>>1223494
it fell when it lost all its colonies and became just another country in the world
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>>1223475
Well look at the vikings for example. They went on to be the normans, who went on to be the english, who had a huge empire, and are now still one of the bigger world powers despite being a relatively small country.
>>1223500
To be fair they just gave up on a lot of stuff rather than getting murdered because of sheer bone idleness. They still control two and a bit other countries plus shit like Gibraltar which is more than what italy held onto.
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>>1223262
>Wanted it to be a scraped together machine
>Instead created an incredibly tough tank
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>>1223526
She would have been using armor from a starship, aka armor 50+ SP armor, that wasn't nearly as structurally sound as it was because the ship, you know, blew up.
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>>1222691
I like to specialize, plus I tend to like playing tanks or support rather than hyperoffense and mobility, so just trying to find ways to make that sort of thing work and be worth the CP.
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Aside from AP, what's the best way to mitigate heavy armor?
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>>1223574
Colony drops.
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>>1223574
Incendiaries and waiting.
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>>1223574
Shock weapons.
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>>1223583
>>1223587
>>1223574
Both.
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>>1223574
Nobody's even going to try and fight fair? The Blitz isn't nearly as tough as people seem to think it is.
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>>1223553
...and I say this as the guy who designed the M-Sagister one of the fastest and nastiest melee mechs in the Tournament...

>>1223574
depends on if its beta armor or whatever, if not incendiary helps, if it is beta armor it doesn't really since the armor probably won't ablate... other than that... I suppose a high hit count with at least 9K to help chip the armor away even if its gamma armor...

Also... I guess grappling/entangling maybe?
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>>1223604
>fighting fair

Why in the fuck would you ever do that?
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>>1223574
the most munchkin-y way of doing it is 1k high accuracy high burst projectile weapons with scattershot.

should work for anything not in beta armor.
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>>1223605
Entangling shock weapons. Did we ever find out if entangling shock weapons keep their full kills for shocking people? I remember someone saying something about it once.
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>>1223611
Poor sportsmanship?
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>>1223619
It wouldn't be an accurate assessment of the mecha if they were all perfectly equal in every way. If someone is clever enough to specifically counter your mech, why wouldn't they? Well, tank in this case. It's more fun when someone is geared quite well to beat you and you push their shit in anyway. This is as much an audition as it is a showcase and a family friendly event for all ages so you'll eventually need to show the strengths and weaknesses of your mecha and how to react when exposed to said situations.

Besides it doesn't matter, we all know it'll come down to Mr. Big Dick Anonpants rolling a 10 against Mr. Slightly less of a big dick Anonpants' 1 and the fight ending instantly.
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>>1223636
No, no, I mean out of character. The person making the mech specifically. All the characters are trying to become pirates, who cares what they do. But it's a really shitty thing for someone to say "hey, that mech's pretty good at this. Let's make a weapon that's only good at messing with that." Like that 1K Wide Angle beam gun made to counter the Valkyrie. What else is that going to be used for?
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>>1223619
>various pirates, mercenaries, bounty hunters and crazy people
>caring about sportsmanship
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>>1223619
if you want fair then go back to playing sims with Bluegill Joe, no items, final destination.
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>>1223643
>>1223645
This >>1223642
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>>1223648
Other people with holograms? A missile with blast seems like a better option for that anyway.
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>>1223642
>Like that 1K Wide Angle beam gun made to counter the Valkyrie. What else is that going to be used for?

Blasting the hell out of mooks. Just have four or five of those things and together they'd shred though swathes of mook mecha in a few turns. Need that sweet-ass really not so sweet-ass armor to block it from slowly melting you, which I don't think we've actually seen any mook-mecha with alpha or beta armor.

I get where you're coming from but in the end this is competitive and there will be people who are going to be Batmanning everyone. Even though it is meta.
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>>1223642
if that's your argument then why is the Valkyrie's cannon's range so long compared to my lance's projectile mode? it's like you chose that range knowing that I can't match it
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>>1223619
> Implying we're sportsman

Fighting fair is for when both teams get to go home upright afterwards and not in a box.
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>>1223675
>he's never been to vampire rugby
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>>1223678
it doesn't have to be vampire rugby. the regular game is rough enough as is
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>>1223656
>Valkyrie
You mean the Blitz? It was made to outrange other mechs, not yours specifically. That's why. Only having 2 servos makes it really squishy if it's focused, so the best way for that to not happen was to be able to shoot without getting shot.
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>>1223642
>Like that 1K Wide Angle beam gun made to counter the Valkyrie.
Truth be told that was a split second decision born from all the munchkin panic over the valk supposedly being untouchable with its layered defenses, at this pointbeing more familiar with how those systems work now if I was allowed I'd swap it out for a cheap ams system. missiles are much more of a problem for the M-Sagister and are on more mechs.
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>>1223642
Honestly, many of the weapons and designs I made follow this pattern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ9-PFes3mM
Only replace the cannons with me cramming as many things on a missile as possible.
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>>1223697
yes sorry about that. my bad
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>>1223698
I miss the beam sweepers. Sure they might not be that strong but there's something to be said for saying "fuck it, I'll just shoot every single hex at once!".
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>>1223694
pls, those babby-tier injuries ain't got shit on our backyard hickville nail-ball dodge-ball/football.

No really though once some idiot dropped the ball on a nail and no one noticed cause it went in perfectly and didn't deflate and my buddy ended up getting four inches of galvanized shit in his forearm. Actually pretty hilarious.
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>>1223697
Anon, the Blitz is not squishy in the least. Yes, it only has two servos, but the amount of time it would take to plink through its armor makes it much tougher than you believe.
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>>1223713
Yeah I liked that about them too but 15 CP for damage and range that low....

Eh I think I could stat a variant torso one for an alt loadout, though it wouldn't show up in the tournament...
Hmm 30 CP to make an infinite BV 2K beam weapon with +3 accuracy...
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>>1223722
Man a dude got his ballsack torn open playing rugby. He got them to sew it up and jumped right back into the game.
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>>1223723
Not against Blast or anything with AP. In a straight shootout its behind humanoid mechs in RNG because they have 2 servos to hit, while I have 6. Add to that my bonuses always being lower, and I have to have a lot more luck to win. It wouldn't mean much for me to blow off a leg and an arm if I lost my only gun to do it.
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>>1223758
>implying sack injuries are half as bad as people act

Now testicular injury is as bad as people act. Other than the bleeding not much a sack injury really does. Besides looking ugly as hell.
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>>1223808
His testicle was literally hanging out of his sack.
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>>1223827
That's fine. Now if it was split open or if it was no longer attached then you would have a problem.
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So, I believe you guys had some questions that are about to be answered.

Tonight might be a shorter session than anticipated, I'd expected to get this bit done and get back to Roarke, but I feel like microwaved cat vomit and it's a good thing I had this prewritten. Something's wrong with the AC at work and the whole office didn't just feel hot all day, it felt skin-witheringly dry, so I think it's more a combination of that and not sleeping well last night than actual illness, thankfully.
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>>1223975
i hope you feel better Mr.Wong
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>>1223975
I recommend some fluids and a quick shower if thats the case. Rehydrate yourself, maybe drink some ginger ale. Helps when I have to deal with a warm spring and the room's heater is still going at mid winter levels of warmth.
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Meanwhile, elsewhere, on a seedy colony of Europa, a man in a yellow flightsuit and overhanging desert-tan coat walks along a street cracked by the insistent upshoots of weeds. A spotted owl flies from one vine-strewn tenement to another, as silent as a phantasm, and he pauses to watch it through the opaque yellow field of his visor. Tall, well-built, but not overflowing with muscle, he hums in a pleasant tenor voice as he moves through the abandoned streets.

“Rain alert, rain alert.” Chirps a chipper, automated voice over the colony PA system, “Scheduled precipitation spraying will commence in half an hour, residents are advised to take shelter. Rain alert, rain alert...” The message repeats itself, its enthusiasm never flagging, even though this particular district has long been abandoned to local gangs ever since Bucephalus moved the local factory and its associated jobs. Its androgynous voice could belong to either a little boy or an old female VA trying to sound like one.

The man in yellow spots a pair of eyes watching him from behind the facade window of a long-closed cafe, and goes inside. The door appears to be locked and boarded up, but instead of real nails it's been secured with loose magnets, and a strong tug opens it easily. The man in yellow is methodical, he's used this place as a hideout before. He owns the gangs here, he's responsible for the CDF staying out, this is his territory as surely as anywhere in the Belt. Which makes the complete nonchalance of the boy sitting in a chair, sipping hot cocoa, so disturbing.

There's a lot disturbing about this picture, really, even to the man in yellow, a man who is remarkably unflappable. Not just the boy, but the slender figure in a fully armored pilot suit sitting next to him. Glancing at the hips, he guesses that's a girl, but he can't be sure, her helmet's visor is just as opaque as his. There's a faint bulge on either side of her helmet, like it boasts an extra-quality sound system, an impression reinforced by the faint, rhythmic nodding of her head and the jerky drumming of her fingertips against her thigh. Whatever she's listening to, he can't hear it.

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“Oliver and Engeler?” He guesses, leaning against a pillar and crossing his arms. He knows of them, he knows what their mecha can do, he knows their talents, he even knows something about their personalities and history, but this is the first time meeting them face to face. It's an old habit, it seemingly removes his hands from a combative posture but lets him check the positions of every weapon in his sleeves. He hears a clattering from the kitchen, and nearly draws one of them, but a cheerful-looking girl with twin tails of rich black hair draped over her shoulders sticks her head out of the kitchen, a frying pan held in her hands.

“No, I'm right here. Sorry, we got a little hungry. Nothing fancy, just eggs and bacon, since that's what his grace wanted.” She smiles. It's a cute smile, one that makes it easy for men less worldly than the yellow one to forget how dangerous she really is.

“This is Bradamante, actually.” The boy corrects, indicating the headbobbing girl next to him. Despite looking even younger than the girl in the kitchen, he's by far the most comfortable-looking one here, just as the man in yellow expected.

The dark-haired girl sticks her head around the corner, scowling, “I told you before, that's from the Italian versions! Orlando Furioso! Orlando Innamorato! Not from the original French text! If we were using the Italian versions we wouldn't have so many -gers and things would be a good deal simpler but much less authentic!” She harrumphs grandiosely, “If you have a problem with the naming scheme, take it up with the Lady!”

“You're right. Sir, it is my pleasure to introduce Princess Lethalina Deathstrike Bullseye Headshot El Grande.” He deftly catches an apple hurled at his head from the kitchen and takes a bite out of it.

“On second thought, Your Grace, Bradamante is fine for now. Please excuse my outburst and do enjoy your pre-meal snack.” The dark haired girl appears in the doorway, bowing. She's dressed in smart Jovian clothes, with the cross symbol of the Reformed Catholic Church worked into her scarlet sweater. It's very clever, it redirects the mind from what, exactly, is foreign about her. Her skirt is just a bit short to go with the sweater, and the man in yellow wonders briefly whether she simply prefers fashion to comfort or if the enhancements that make her a Paladin render her immune to cold. Some people might want to vivisect a Paladin for the chance to find out, and the man in yellow knows who could afford it. Of course, violating an alliance without cause is bad business, so he pursues the thought no further. The boy's subdued blacks are a bit more ornate and less overtly Jovian, but don't outright betray his Avalonian origin either.

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>>1224092
I see Eustace is still the best when it comes to names.
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>>1224092
So the Man in the Yellow hat is allied with Avalon and specifically Kirito
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>>1224092
>“This is Bradamante, actually

Naomi?
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>>1224125
makes sense with the music.
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>>1224125
Good call anon
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>>1224134
Annnd I just realized something; King. King in Yellow.
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>>1224147
He was on Qui'lir, right?
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>>1224147
>he doesn't still suspect Clearwater

Never trust nice men in a universe of shitheads.
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>>1224154
Aye, and the Teslas were belt made. Means he was the supplier to the avalonians. But the stuff he gave was Bahamut corp based with the drop pods.
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>>1224157
But that would mean not trusting amos either. Still, am I the only one experiencing a lag with 4chan?
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“Turpin liked it, anyway.” The Duke comments, eating the apple with quick, decisive bites, and tossing the core into the air. With a flash so quick even the man in yellow barely sees her hand move, the girl in the flight suit draws a beam pistol and pops it with a shot on dead minimum power, crisping the core and altering its course enough to knock it into a trash can.

“For the last time, Your Grace, the princess is NOT a toy.” The dark-haired girl heaves a long-suffering sigh, humming as she works on the food, “What if she remembers this when reconditioning is complete? When the memory transfer is done?”

“Then she'll remember I gave her some target practice, dear Countess. Don't scowl so much, you'll get wrinkles.” The Duke replies cheekily, “Ah, come now, we're bothering our host. Please, good sir, join us and be refreshed. Your journey has been rather long, hasn't it? Did you see what you went there to see?”

The man in yellow looks from one to the other before taking a seat at the table, “Three Paladins have now fallen. One-fourth of your fellowship is down, and one is dead along with his mech.”

There's a gasp from the kitchen, but the boy seems unsurprised, merely a little sad. He bows his head slightly, “This is what I feared. Some of our fellowship learned nothing from the last war. Swollen with power and heavy with the weight of their own egos, they mistook themselves for something above enhanced humans and sought to fight like gods.”

“You attacked the Pirate King and Jovian military alone, your grace. You have absolutely no room to talk.” The twintailed girl glares around the edge of the door.

“I was not alone. I had you, did I not?” The boy smiles at her, “You have a glorious future ahead of you, Tabitha, if you can only overcome your weaknesses and blossom into the Paladin I know you can become.”

She huffs, “You're only nice when people are feeding you.” Still, she looks pleased with yourself.

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>>1224322
>inb4 deleted
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>>1224357

Hm, why?
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>>1224365
>Still, she looks pleased with yourself
Still, it's an understandable mistake.
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>>1224372

Too small a typo to worry about, honestly.
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>>1224322
Not liking the reprogramming bit. Going to have to rescue her no matter what.
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The boy, pilot of the Oliver, politely scoffs and turns back to the man in yellow, “And what of the other matter?”

The man in yellow turns his opaque faceplate towards the girl with the twintails, then towards the one in the helmet.

The boy waves the unspoken question away, “I trust Countess Roosevelt with my life.”

“And the other?” The man in yellow asks, slightly annoyed that he has to say it.

“Her brain won't process more than surface data right now. See, look?” He waves his hand in front of her visor. She smacks it away, then resumes drumming her fingers and bobbing her head as if nothing happened, “She knows vaguely what's going on and approaches it with her full mental power, but the implications of it don't penetrate to the logical centers of her brain. For instance, her pistol could have melted a hole in the roof, but as a civilized human being she knows that's rude, so as she drew her weapon she turned the power down to minimum and calculated the right moment to shoot to knock the apple core into the disposal bin. She's not mindless. However, she doesn't question at all why she's here, or who we are, or why she wants to keep listening to what's playing inside her helmet.”

“Which is?” The man in yellow can't help but be a bit fascinated by this process, as sickening as many would find it.

“A symphony of condensed experience that she was created with the ability to understand. We hear sound, but she experiences a lifetime playing out before her eyes, slowly but surely.” This time, Countess Tabitha answers him, looking uneasily at the girl, “Your Grace, the food is ready.”

“Thank you, Tabitha. Bring it in. Will you eat with us?” Duke Rothschild-Beauchamps offers his host. The man in yellow shakes his head.

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>>1224411
Nothings Caesar D cannot fix.
also checked
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>>1224421
I wonder if King realizes what the Princess is.
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>>1224439
Probably, but business is business. Now we just have to deal with false memories and a false lifetime.
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“The Green Man buried on Qu'lir. Unfortunately, he's dead.” The man in yellow responds.

The Countess gasps, but the Duke simply sips his cocoa, “Good.”

“Good!?” The Countess sputters, “I didn't even know there was another one besides the Lady! How can this be good!?”

“Because, contrary to popular belief, to a civilized society a god can bleed and still be a god. It can even die. However, there are things it cannot do. Go mad. Undermine the other gods. Start murdering its worshippers. Duchess Carnegie was the one who informed myself, the Queen, the Lady, Belegor, and Sir Gavin Hayward of its existence. The Lady made the decision that it would be quietly investigated, and either killed or retrieved depending on the circumstances. Personally, I favored killing it from the beginning. I cannot imagine one of the Green Men choosing subservience to another, and nor can I imagine permitting another Green Man to develop its own following to subvert the Lady.”

Tabitha's lips form a firm, narrow line, “Blasphemy.”

The boy gives her an even stare, “Truth. I would lay down my life for the Lady, not because of any mystical powers or inherent divinity, but because she is a wise and caring overseer with mental capabilities beyond our understanding. In a meritocratic society, the most capable should lead, and the Green Men...healthy, sane ones...are the most capable of all. To tell the truth, from what Duchess Carnegie said about reports of parrots in the depths of the Qu'liri woodlands arguing about whether all humans needed to be killed or whether they could be engineered back into an apelike state as part of the food chain...once I understood what the dickens it meant...I feared the Lady would have to slay her kinsman herself. A toast to the man who spared her such grief.” He raises his cocoa in salute. "I pray it was painless, poor thing."

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>>1224497
>"I pray it was painless, poor thing."
>It ain't me echoes through out the universe.
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>>1224513

Some prayers don't get answered.
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>>1224533
If mankind did not want me to make super napalm, it would not have given me the tools and drive to do so.
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>>1224533
he deserved nothing less
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“Why do you call this clone a princess?” Asks the man in yellow, far more interested in that than in the deceased Father of Qu'lir. “Isn't a princess someone being groomed to replace a queen?”

There is dead silence for several long moments.

“Now that.” The Duke says calmly, and with an oddly contemplative look on his face, “Would be blasphemy indeed.”

“It's just what Turpin refers to her as.” The Countess insists.

“Yes. Turpin.” The Duke's youthful face is quite calm and blank. “Sir, I must applaud how deftly you have dodged my original question...did you see what you went to see on Qu'lir?”

“Have I not answered it?” The man in yellow responds, just as calmly.

“No, you haven't. You told us what you thought we wanted to know, but not why you had to risk everything you have to go in person.” The Duke replies, still calmly.

“Sentiment.” The man in yellow responds, emotionlessly.

“Ah, a personal matter. I understand. Did you want to see how well your creations performed?” The Duke inquires.

The man in yellow shrugs, “Something like that.”

The Duke taps a button on the side of the headbobbing girl's helmet, and speaks with exaggerated clarity, “Receiving mode off. Password: Apollonia.”

“Vocal authority recognized, receiving mode deactivated.” A cold, emotionless voice rings out from beneath the helmet. After a moment of silence, a voice that's almost unrecognizable as the same one bubbles out, cheerful and cocky, “By Jove, I'm starving!” The girl tugs off her helmet and tosses it into an empty chair, “Huh, weird, I can't believe I forgot to take this thing off. Should've left it with Caesar's, I guess it shows that I've been riding his bike too much, huh?” She sighs contentedly, and digs into her food with an appalling lack of table manners. Her skin is the color of mocha, her hair is blonde with a tint of green, and her eyes are a dazzling blue, “He's taking too damned long in the bathroom, again, I bet he's on his PC. HEY CAESAR! HURRY UP OR I'LL EAT ALL THE BACON!” She snaps a crunchy strip of pigmeat between her sharp, white teeth, chewing with gusto and swigging down a mouthful of coffee as Tabitha serves it to the group.

The man in yellow waves the coffeepot away, "Fascinating." He notes.

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>>1224634
...It's Mr. Biggs. The King in yellow is Simon's father. The mech designs, the bahamut corp tech, the assassin, this was all to prevent himself from being revealed. The reason why Simon was picked was most likely due to him as well.
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>>1224727
You know what, I'm ok with Roarke turning Oliver into meat paste.
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“What's fascinating is how you coordinated your outfit to go with these eggs. That's some real dedication to fashion, buddy.” The girl makes a double-fingergun gesture at the man in yellow before digging back into her meal, her cheeks swollen like a chipmunk's as she gobbles up scrambled eggs and washes it down with a mouthful of coffee, “Waitress, refill please!” She wags her cup under Tabitha's nose.

The Countess and the Duke exchange glances. The Countess sulkily pours her another cup of coffee.

“Who is Caesar?” The man in yellow questions.

“Heinrich Merrow, her boyfriend.” The Duke explains.

Even behind his unflappable mien and opaque visor, one can see the man in yellow is surprised, “Merrow, really? That Merrow's son?”

The Duke nods.

The man in yellow chuckles, “How bitter is irony.”

“We should have recruited him.” The Duke notes sadly, “If only I'd been faster...”

“Good luck being faster than SOUL, little guy. Hey, newbie, being off-duty and out-of-uniform doesn't excuse you not passing the salt. Gimme that.” The girl holds her hand out expectantly until the Countess hands her the salt and pepper. “Where's my boyfriend? HEIIIINRICHHHH HURRY UPPPP!” She calls out, cupping her hands around her mouth.

“She thinks you're UJCIDF pilots.” The man in yellow asks in disbelief.

The Duke shrugs. The Countess explains, “Turpin...sort of a priest of the Lady...says that her brain is rationalizing anything it can't quite parse into its worldview right now, as a form of self-defense. Taking pieces of the situation and fitting them in wherever she can.”

“Yeah, like how I'm rationalizing why Caesar had to bring a bunch of friends on our date.” She grumbles, “I mean, I get that he wants me to be buddies with his buddies, but you guys seem like you'd rather be doing something else too. You two a couple or something?” She points her fork from the Countess to the Duke.

The Duke looks disgusted, “Absolutely not! I was there when she was a baby! Her father and I were good friends.”

“You've got quite a babyface, don't you? Lucky you. Ensign Heim, Naomi Heim, in case Caesar didn't introduce us...although, I keep feeling like we've met before...” She smiles and extends her hand to shake.

The Duke shakes it, and although he smiles back anyone could see that it's a strained, sad smile, “Yes, I think we have met in passing. It's nice to meet you, Ensign Heim.”

“Please, call me Naomi. Any friend of Caesar's is a friend of mine.” She smiles. It's a cheeky, monkeyish smile.

"I certainly want to be your friend, Naomi." The Duke says sadly, watching her eat the last of her food. As she swallows and goes to say something else, he clears his throat, "Receiving mode on. Password: Apollonia."

"Huh? W..." Naomi's eyes go blank, the muscles of her face slackening, "Vocal authority recognized, receiving mode reactivated." She puts the helmet back on.

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>>1224634
>>1224727

Eustace deserves a punch to the dick for all this bullshit. Preferably with the shock gloves.
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>>1224754
>>1224748
I do not envy his position. To save the being he considers a just and noble goddess, he needs to sacrifice the future of an innocent. A good person with a noble heart, and going about this in all the wrong ways.
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>>1224727
>>1224753
What the fuck is going on here?
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>>1224765
No matter how he thinks he can justify it, he still deserves to get his nuts cracked.
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>>1224773
Avalon dindu nuffin
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>>1224780
Never said he didn't, but I can see his perspective. Make no mistake. I am all for rescuing Naomi, taking out two more paladins and having them stay here as 'guests', and proceeding to throw as many war crimes in boxes I can on the lady's ivory tower, but its still a sad state of affairs that such a thing must come to pass.
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>>1224783
I renounce my call to neutrality and eagerly wait the call for war against the avalonian dog's
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>>1224753
Avalon is going to get the Merrowing: Cesar Edition: Part Two Electric Boogaloo
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>>1224801
Gentlemen, a proposition; Drill lance bits or a flaming drill lance.
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>>1224795
Not particularly. When you've resorted to mind control in order to convince someone, you've lost any moral high ground of the sanctity of your cause.
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>>1224809
How about a mecha destrier for Lance boy to ride?
Then like give it modular metaforms that transform it into Heavy Duty command armor and a giant lance.
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I don't think a colony drop is enough. We need something bigger.
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>>1224834
I don't think it's a matter of convincing. I think he's prepping her body. Both greenmen we know of were crippled, but the Father mentioned using a clone to swap out and be free of his paralysis. If the green lady is also on life support, then she can do the same to Naomi. His duty is to make her into the Lady's vessel so she can be fully functional and capable. If that happens, we can expect her to make more green men or bio armors.
To him, it's the case of one sacrifice to give his deity the ability to walk the earth and save their kingdom.
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>>1224809
How about adding Shock to the lance to turn it into a REAL electric boogaloo?
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I'm just gonna leave this here, since Roarke loves his Queen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiuD6i8dN1g
I'm shocked as a lover of classic rock and queen included that this was not included in the cassette tapes
Or Bicycle Race, it's blasphemy
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>>1224858
Can we make it release super heated plasma when it stabs into things? basically give it the incendiary modifier?
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The Duke drops his face into his hands, “That gets harder every time. Dash it all, we have to recruit the Merrow boy! It's too sad otherwise!”

“Now who's being sentimental?” Asks the man in yellow.

The Duke slams his fist down on the table, “The difference is, I'm not denying it! The boy fought his own allies to protect her, he's someone I can trust to keep her safe even from our own people! He deserves Paladinhood a hundred times more than that foolish reprobate Lucas Ford did...and besides, they're a young couple in love. Keeping them separated is just...it's just...it's not right!”

“Your Grace, we must...” The Countess tries to interject.

“We must NOT become the kind of villains we're looking to defeat! Even waking her up like this, even if it's all for the sake of the Lady we love, it's too damned hard! Let her have her boyfriend, let her have that piece of herself!” The Duke shakes his head vigorously.

“Your Grace.” Countess Roosevelt puts her hand on his shoulder, “We don't even know if she'll recognize him as such when this is all done. We don't know if she'll remember anything at all from this life. This hasn't been done since the Lady's people fell, and none of us, including Turpin, truly know exactly what will transpire.”

“Only that it must be, for the sake of our people. What a monstrous thing to do.” Eustace says bitterly.

“Don't worry, Your Grace. Now that we have her, maybe we'll get to go home soon.” The Countess tries to smile.

“...Without your cousin?” The Duke teases her.

The Countess sticks her nose in the air and crosses her arms, “Hmph! It's for the best, isn't it? You said yourself she didn't seem unhappy where she was. Let her stay. I'll manage her lands and, maybe, someday some child of her and this Pirate King you want to fight so badly will come to Avalon and claim their rights. Maybe I'll even let them have it.”

He snorts, “For the sake of the Pirate King, I hope he doesn't kidnap you too. He'd have no peace, ever, with both of you around.”

“As if I'd take her leavings! She might be able to accept such a philanderer, but I have standards!” The Countess indignantly squawks. “I just want my servants returned to me, the surviving ones. From what I hear from our new soldiers, the Pirate King fought honorably, and that's good, but if I'm with someone they have to have eyes for me and me only. That's just how I am.”

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>>1224834
All he's doing is using an enemy combatant to strengthen the position of his people via a massive boost to morale and military tech.
completely rational, given the circumstances
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>>1224876
so we need to find Space Shirou?
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>>1224876
>but I have standards!”

best joke in the entire quest
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>>1224883
Thats the kicker. If you had the chance to bring a major leader back to their prime and fully capable of what they have done and then some, you would have people fighting tooth and nail for it. A real chance to bring back Jesus? Teddy Roosevelt? Oda Nobunaga? That one crazy Jack fellow in WWII who fought with a great sword? They wouldn't bat an eye if it meant but a single life that isn't even really lost depending on how you look at it.
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>>1224876
>but I have standards
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>>1224894
She never said they were GOOD standards.
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>>1224894
>>1224906
>>1224901

I don't get it.
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Also game resumes at 12:30, giving me time to eat.
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>>1224934
Roarke Starwind is the biggest dick OG in all the land.
You literally can not have higher standards for a man, he is the perfect man and lover.
If you take into account that you have to share him, which is brought up later so I guess its fair
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>>1224934
I was mostly referring to how she whored herself out to one of her servants.
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>>1224934
I mean, her standards involve having sex in her Queen's castle.

Actually I guess that would be mostly on her.
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>>1224898
Ya but those are all humans who didn't cause a war that almost destroyed the entire human race. And is the last survivor who watched all of her race being killed. Plus they are directly working against our interests so fuck them anyway.
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>>1224967

I believe I said that was how the Avalonian public might perceive it in context, but there was no actual whoring. She developed a passion for her father's best knight, and she got what she wanted.

>>1224975

This is even more silly, Roarke would have done the same.

>>1224956

This makes more sense, although she did call him a philanderer to begin with.
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>>1224898
Shit man, bring back someone from proto-history or something. Revive some psycho Babylonian strap him down and do crazy language science shit. Revive Ramses and ask him what he really thought about cats. Bring back Bruce Lee and see who would really win in a fight.
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>>1224989
>This is even more silly, Roarke would have done the same.
Eh, not sure about that. Roarke has some pretty good political and PR instincts. He might have wanted to, but he'd keep it in his pants at a critical moment like that. If he was tempted to pull such a maneuver in the first place, which he wouldn't be.
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>>1224989
My reasoning was for her standards being wrong was mostly based on her religious dedication to the Lady. If she's so dedicated she'll snap at Eustace for shit talking Green Men other than the Lady, wouldn't she be respectful of the Lady's castle?

Though I guess it could be a case of everyone just saying it's her castle when it's not even symbolic. I don't remember you talking about it all that well well.
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>>1224983
Bringing back the son of god would likely cause a major religious war that would spark so many fires that it would likely wipe out swaths of humanity. If he could still do his miracles, even more so.
>>1224994
This is also a good point. Humanity in general does not balk at the thought of one life being lost if they don't know who it is. They will push that button with glee for their reward. At the very least, Eustace seems to show some regret and remorse in having to be the one to do the deed.
In any case, he's not keeping her. He'll simply have to go back empty handed and be the bearer of bad news.
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>>1224892
Archer is dead, unfortunately.
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>>1225024
>implying he provided anything of quality

Bad engrish quotes don't count. No matter how entertaining the edits may be.
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>>1225024
thank fuck for that.
god is gigamesh here to? i hope not.
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>>1225053
Probably another asshole type paladin.
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>>1224994

In this case it's somewhere between Leonardo da Vinci, Bruce Lee, and Alexander the Great. It's been implied that the Lady is more of a warrior-type Green Man who was still able to competently develop an Avalonian battle doctrine and build them an army with virtually no starting resources, even if she wasn't as knowledgeable about genetic engineering off the bat as the Father of Qu'lir.

>>1225013

The Queen's castle, not the Lady's. The Lady has an "enchanted forest" she dwells at the heart of, that sprung up from her crippled Bio-Armor.
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>>1225064
You mean the Lady isn't called the Queen?

I thought it was a symbolic thing.
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>>1225039
>>1225053
>Hating on GARcher

I'm surrounded by plebs.
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>>1225079

No, they're 100% separate people. The Lady is a Green Man, the Queen is an Avalonian of the Plantagenet family. Loriette even cited the Queen's existence as proof that the Lady wasn't so bad, because she'd installed a human ruler rather than directly dominating Avalon herself.
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>>1225064
>The Lady has an "enchanted forest" she dwells at the heart of, that sprung up from her crippled Bio-Armor.
I'm getting Etrian Odyssey vibes from this, especially with the final floor of the 3rd game being exactly that with a warped princess as a boss
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>>1225084
Great so its Vichy Avalon. How does anyone buy this shit?
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>>1225084
Oh, alright.

I'll call it now though, if the Spores aren't enough the Lady is using the rulers of Avalon as glorified meat puppets.

>>1225094
Spores.
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>>1225064
>Leonardo da Vinci

I'm still convinced Leo was either batshit insane or high literally all the time to come up with all that random shit so randomly.
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>>1225091
And me without my warp wire.. wait, are we a player or an FOE?
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>>1225094

Rhetorical question or do you want a serious answer besides "Green Man shenanigans"?
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>>1225108
Let me get the serious answer. Plus how they justify following a being that almost destroyed humanity.
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>>1225102
Considering we'd be invading that place, Players. Time to stock up potions and stack buffs.
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>>1225080
His story line either involves time travel alternate reality's or both. these things are a sin.
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>>1225110
Hey, being able to kill 2/3rds of the people that are actively trying to kill you back is a pretty strong grounds for a following.
I mean it worked for Zeon,
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>>1225144
Zeon aren't space monsters trying to murder all humanity, despite what the Titans say.
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>>1225132
PLEB AS FUCK.
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>>1225150
Let's be honest, the Green Men actually have better motivations than Zeon.
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>>1225150
>gassed colonies
>dropping said colonies on earth
>Zakus with nukes
Sure could have fooled me.
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>>1225110

I'll explain properly.

The Queen is the Queen is the Queen. She does all of the royal stuff, all of the ruling, and openly runs Avalon. People see her all the time in public addresses and such, and according to what Loriette has told Roarke she at least SEEMS to be running the war effort, too.

The Lady, on the other hand, is a goddess...or at least a very powerful good-hearted (according again to Avalonians) witch who advises the Queen. She spends nearly all of her time in her forest. Those who have seen her have only seen her once or twice, for the most part, barring people like Eustace who've known her since she landed on Avalon and THEY tend to be the most divided on her (consider how Eustace thinks the mystical stuff is all bullshit and views the Lady more like one of the Mentats from Dune only deeply beloved and 100% worth following, while Maria Carnegie views her as the only goddess capable of performing real miracles). She makes very few day-to-day decisions, and when she does suggest something it's usually on a matter of utmost importance (and then her advice is obeyed without question). She does, however, do things for Avalon that no one else can do, like uplift the Paladins and provide them with their biocore-enhanced mecha.

As for destroying humanity, Avalon doesn't look at it as "humans versus Green Men", they view it as "The CUSS versus genemodded humans, then unmodded humans versus genemodded humans once the CUSS fell", and Avalon sides with the genemodders. Who is more worthy of the right to rule than immortal geniuses who build worlds, after all? That's the Avalonian logic, and it's the fault of the CUSS/SSL's leadership for sending all those people to their deaths rather than submit to being ruled.

Keep in mind, the Father of Qu'lir wanting to wipe out ALL humans was a result of his degenerative madness. The mainstream Green Man opinion involved curtailing and controlling humanity, not exterminating it.

Oh, and most Avalonians don't know about all of the awful shit the Green Men pulled during the War, and those that find out tend to go "b-but muh Lady wasn't involved."
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>>1225178
>Father of Qu'lir wanting to wipe out ALL humans was a result of his degenerative madness

Yeah, tell us how good the Greenmen are and he's just a bad egg.

That sounds like something a sympathizer would say, Wong.
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>>1225178
That puts things into a much better context.

How old is Eustace again?
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>>1225178

Also keep in mind that the CUSS did some awful, awful shit and even the SSL doesn't try to act like the CUSS leadership was a bunch of innocent babies. "I'll sacrifice thousands upon thousands worth of soldiers in puny pre-HMIS atmospheric fighter planes against an oncoming Bio-Armor so I can load my entire art collection into the shuttle before fleeing the planet and blowing up the gate behind me." is the absolute SHALLOW end of the CUSS' pool of corruption. Consider that they were literally genemodding permaloli catgirls with no human rights for sale to the weathy.
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>>1225190
How big a part did Terra play in the old CUSS?
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>>1225189

I...would need to check my math again, but he's at least fifty years old. The Lady fell to Avalon well before the end of the War, and it was a very long War.
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>>1225178
>"b-but muh Lady wasn't involved."
Did Amos ever find out from the Father that the Lady specialized in combat, or was that just part of his internal, pre-immolation monologue? Not that knowing that would mean much because of the spores.
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>>1225199
And Carnegie is also FAR older than that, right?

Do all Paladins get eternal youth?
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>>1225199
>it was a very long War.

Hmm, that puts a bunch of the vets into a different light. If the war lasted even a decade, it would make people like Hunk and Inari not just really old and lucky but insane for still being willing to pilot.
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>>1225178
>>1225190
It puts things into perspective, but at the same time, it feels like it's the normal joe getting screwed over. Either used as cannon fodder, or turned into slaves. Both sides were pretty bad, but in this case, the only side that could likely decide HOW they would do it was the Greenmen.
They could have cut out the corruption, served as teachers, went 'fuck this, I'm out', took a gate to it's breaking point, find some far reaches of the universe and live peacefully, but no. They wanted to be rulers and rather than helping the masses who were being screwed over, screw THEM over as well. They were not saviors, just the replacement for the CUSS.
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>>1225198

Almost none. The CUSS resented the Solar System proper for trying to assert primacy back in the early days of colonization, and used economic warfare to turn the Solar System into a backwater, especially because the Solar System planets were unwilling to end the closure of Terra, unwilling to let most non-Solar natives onto Terra regardless of how much wealth they had, and unwilling to sell their industries, governments, and resources to CUSS foreigners. Imagine your typical arrogant Eurocrat who thinks every country belongs to them and gets OUTRAGED when a nation goes "nah that's our shit fuck off", and then put it into a context of hyper-wealth and extreme decadence.

"I want to buy Io, here's enough CUSS money to destroy the Jovian economy forever because we set the value of our money and decided yours is worth about as much as rat turds. I'll move in next week. Once I buy up all the mines maybe I can afford to buy Saturn's rings and make them spell out my name in glowing fluourescent dragon dicks. By the way, I'm turning your house into a farm for genetically engineered dickin' dragons, so I'll buy your sister too so they have something to practice on."

"No, fuck off, we live here."

"WHAT!? Oh, very funny."

"No, we're not joking. Fuck off with your shit."

"Y-YOU ARROGANT SOLARS! YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE LAST OF ME! I'LL WRITE MY GREAT-UNCLE ON THE CUSS ECONOMIC COUNCIL AND DOUBLE THE TARIFFS ON YOUR IMPORTS FOR EVERY MEMBER WORLD FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR JUPITER REEEEEE"

There's a reason why the Green Men didn't make the Solar System an initial target, and also a reason why the Solar System didn't jump in immediately on the side of the CUSS until it was discovered that the Green Men were sporing Mars. The CUSS was widely hated and the Martian Green Men lied their asses off to the authorities of the Solar System about what was going on and what their plans were. People wanted to believe the CUSS was just getting what it deserved.
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>>1225220
I feel this is something Basil or Stern would say.

... Anybody else thinking a tourney Character scene between the Sidereal War vets and the Avalonians would be pretty great?
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>>1225204

Yes and yes.

>>1225202

I don't think he did, but I'm not 100% sure

>>1225220

Ironically, that's part of how Avalon justifies it. The Lady led a popular revolution against a hated, tyrannical dynasty whose traditions resembled the WORST elven stereotypes, installed the Queen instead of ruling herself, retired to isolation to serve as a spiritual guide, and only resumed fighting when tensions erupted with the UJCIDF finding out they had a Green Man.

Nobody is really defending the Green Men as a group who knows what they actually did, besides Duchess Carnegie and she's herself.
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>>1225228
Huh. So Earth's been doing its own thing for a long time now.

About how long would you guesstimate the War had been going on before Sol joined in?
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>>1225251
So wait.. the Green Lady basically called for a arrogant elven genocide? I don't know how to feel about this fact.
Either way, while Roarke might hate the green men, Avalon as a people and culture would be reasonable once you remove the disturbing greenman tricks.
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>>1225260
I severly doubt that
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>>1225260
did you miss the part about the Elves. The Avalonians did that to themselves. Plus Jove is going to kick their teeth in, Lady or no Lady. that forest alone justifies either destruction or (hopefully) reverse engineering.
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>>1225262
We'll have to see then. Either way, speculation can wait. We need to figure what the next step in the Yellow King's master plan.
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>>1225276
Getting caught, obviously.
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>>1225252

At least a decade, it had become kind of a fact of life by the time Sol got involved (I keep calling it the SSL, but that's a more recent term).

The War (and this is to >>1225211 too) lasted long enough that people joined as fresh-faced kids and left as grizzled veterans. Skunk (I'm giving you his nickname now just for the heck of it, his hair has a silver streak and one of the Kestrels saw it and it caught on) and Inari were probably young when they joined and served for a long time.

Roarke's mom went to war at sixteen (the last few years were also the most intense because humanity had mecha and the Green Men were finally realizing humans were seriously fighting back and WINNING) and left at twenty when the war ended. Roarke's dad was about four years younger, but joined at the same time or earlier. He's about the closest match, agewise, to Fairchild, who had just turned sixteen as the war was ending, just barely too late for there to be any actual call for more young people to be thrown into the meatgrinder, just barely too late to win any glory or impress the upperclassman she had such a crush on.

Rudolph Merrow is in his sixties now, and he joined the war late in his teens back when Bahamutcorp was a small firm run out of ramshackle Europan garages. He was thirty years old or more when it ended.
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>>1225235

I hope it happens, but one thing I've been emphasizing is that Avalon is NOT the same as the vanilla Green Man worshipers from the War in terms of philosophy or strategic doctrine.
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>>1225282
So Hakim joined in on the fighting in his thirties, then? And he did it in tanks and fighter planes and shit, right?
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>>1225290

He didn't always have a vehicle. Sometimes it came down to gas masks, body armor, and man-portable anti-mech rocket launchers fired from ambush in the desert. There's a reason why he's the Caliph.
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>>1225296
..He really was Big Boss, wasn't he?
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>>1225290
>>1225296

Also, yes, he was a grown man with an established career when he got an inkling that something was very, very wrong on Mars and sounded the alarm early about spores. He had a wife and kids when the war began, and was part of a large extended family that was wiped out completely during the War. He married more than once during the decades he spent fighting (he was fighting before Rudolph Merrow was, certainly), had more kids, and STILL lost them all. Eventually he just sort of gave up on having any kind of family besides Mars and Islam.
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>>1225298

In more ways than one.
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>>1225308
Man, I remember that boss.. and having to refight all those other bosses because that son of a bitch liked his crazy doll clones so damn much.
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>>1225308
fuck him, and fuck those brothers, especially the younger one.
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>>1225296
>>1225305
Every time you open your mouth about Hakim he sounds more tragic and more badass.

I vote to never antagonize the man. Holy shit. Thank god for old age or else he might conquer the galaxy.
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>>1225321
the shitstorm thats going to kick off after he dies is going to be amazing.
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>>1225328
Just like Saudi Arabia when that guy kicks the bucket
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“It's for the best. All things come and go, Roarke Starwind among them.” The man in yellow remarks.

“Does the so-called King fear for his kingdom?” The Duke inquires.

The man in yellow shrugs, “No. As I said, all things come and go, although I would love to pick the brain of his chief technician. I see distinct hints of Bucephalus Heavy Industries in the evolving design of his mech, but they're only the framework of something...new. Something unique. Something artistic. It inspires me in ways I haven't been inspired since before my body was damaged.” He pulls up his sleeve, revealing a sheen of complicated metal plating and pistonwork instead of skin. An artificial arm, at the very least, “But I hold no grudges. My mistake was seeking to improve everything but myself, and rectifying it has greatly expanded my horizons.”

“Has it expanded them into sending assassins after Roarke Starwind?” The Duke points at the center of that yellow mask, “I heard there was an attempt on his life last time I communicated with Countess Kennedy.”

The King says nothing, merely folds his arms.

“I can't think of anyone else who would have benefited from doing it that way right now that doesn't work for him. I want it to stop. If the fates are just, Starwind and I shall meet on the battlefield someday, and a knight as valiant as him deserves a clean battle, not a poisoned knife while he sleeps.” The Duke continues, firmly.

The King shrugs, “I hadn't taken you for someone with such a lack of practicality. In any case, I admit to nothing, and neither confirm nor deny my involvement.”

“I am myself, nothing more or less. If I wasn't, there would be no point in any of this.” The Duke replies, watching King closely. He, too, knows how dangerous the man in yellow is. Certainly, the person he's mentally christened 'Yellow Fellow' seems less than afraid, despite being within reach of two Paladins and Bradamante. He doesn't like calling the girl Naomi Heim, in case that's a time now irrevocably past, and he likes calling her Princess even less now that his attention has been called to its implications.

[Continued]
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>>1225328
>yfw Moe goes back home and subdues the Martian thunderdome
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“Indeed, which begs the question, did we come here for small talk, or did you have something for me?” The man in yellow sounds slightly peeved.

The Duke sighs, “Tabitha, show him.”

Countess Roosevelt gets out a PC and displays a hologram of the colony known as Auditorium, and an orbiting superstructure a few kilometers in length like a miniature colony formed from jagged pieces of debris and starship hull, bubbled with viewing pods and shield generators.

The Duke points, “Tomorrow, we're going here. We plan to arrive as early as possible, meet Roarke Starwind face to face as friends, have tea, congratulate him and his wives, find out what they intend to do in the immediate future, and cheer for any of our people willing to show their strength in the tourney. I hope their striders are spaceworthy. Now, this is what I want you to do, and how we are going to coordinate...”

With that, they begin to scheme in earnest. All the while, the girl once known as Naomi Heim, who lived a normal life and had a normal but passionate love for a boy whose father spent over ten years slaying her creators, bobs her head and taps her fingers to a beat only she can hear.
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>>1225342
>Now, this is what I want you to do, and how we are going to coordinate...”

If this isn't a surprise wedding cake we're going to have problems.
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>>1225342
well, at least their bringing their A game. Wouldn't be fair if Jove and Mars where the only ones ready to fight.
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>>1225358
Oops, that's the wrong post.
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>>1225342
Green skull kids given teslas? Because that screams perfect wedding presents right there. Can send the kids back to an orphanage, AND keep the mechs.
>>1225333
Also, I think that data we have about Biggs may just be the most important thing here. He may very well be our next major foe. Bet he's been cloning Kaworus and Reis as well as a new batch of super soldiers.
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>>1225355
Ha, at least the countess would know better than to risk a woman's primal wrath by trying to (or appearing so to an emotional churning mind influenced by "that perfect moment" fever) subvert a single chosen detail of their wedding. Ahahaha, truly the horror! Anyway I have a feeling this is less them trying to antagonize roarke with lorie and their other expats trying to make avalon amiable, if not desirable. More likely trying to sour the martian and Jovian connection to the kestrels and probably trying to tempt Merrow into joining or some such.
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>>1225364
But then again who knows, and diplomatic intentions will likely go awry with the man in yellow having his own agenda.
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>>1225364
I feel like trying to tempt Caesar would turn into Duke saying a bunch of shonen style bullshit and flowery love-language only for Roarke to tell Caesar to be a badass manly man and impress his waifu by saving her and all of the Duke's progress would just melt.
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>>1225282
>Skunk

Ha!

That's pretty interesting. Thanks for the info, Wong.

Inari is 63 and would have, probably, been 18 when the war started. I'm gonna assume that Skunk is around the same age then. Hakim is in his 70s, right?

I know you mentioned the Garron and the Morgan-I being Mechs that saw Action during the War but were there any others?
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>>1225376
"It is the duty of a knight to protect a noble lady. With your care, she will most definetly regain herself. Do you not seek a higher purpose? A higher calling?"
"Take her back and Ave ceasar her in bed until she's back to normal and giving you a ton of kids to play games with."
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>>1225342
Honestly, if they mess up the wedding, Roarke doesn't need to do anything. The brides will wipe Eustace's fleet out on their own.
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>>1225376
Possibly, yet while the Duke has obvious romantic views (like the fawning over the case of young love he is interrupting) I get the feeling he'll try something more pragmatic, possibly something that tries at least a little to avoid a forced confrontation over Merrow's dilemma (no join me and rule the galaxy BS). He seems very genre savy and wise in certain ways, and his naming sense is pure abridged Kirirto, so much so that I hear all his dialogue in said voice.
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>>1225384
>a collective reeee so powerful even Fairchild recoils in pain and fear
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>>1225386
The Tarasque is upgraded and redubbed the Bridezilla! for the confrontation.
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>>1225384
Have you ever seen Power Rangers anon? Image all of their mechs are zords.
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>>1225389
>The upgrade consists solely of a giant wedding dress
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>>1225384
>Clemmy gets a buff to her stats and has plenty of spare emw bits in the wings so she can keep on killing.
>Rosita gets infinite body doubles and boosts the fodder to A rank.
>Sam stealth kills their ships solo.
>The Tarrasque is mass produced and used as bits for an even bigger Tarrasque Fatima pilots.
>Karen Repairs everything at lightning speed and makes them even stronger. Makes those fancy bombs she had planned at the start of the quest and gives them to Sammy to use.
I feel sorry for the poor bastards.
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>>1225389
>tfw Duke comments on how Bridezilla makes it sound bigger than it is

>tfw Fa interprets this as him calling her mecha, and her, fat

Talk about exacerbating the situation.
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>>1225391
But who's the head?
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>>1225396
The Zam of course
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>>1225399
I figured it would be the Kaiser, or would he be the white ranger?
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>>1225399
I would've figured the Tarrasque would be the torso and legs, the Flowerhorn and Betta as the arms and the Anseis as the head.
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>>1225403
What about the Archen?
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>>1225379

A bunch of early Lunar mecha (there was initially talk of Luna being the center of the Sol forces before it was realized that, no, Jupiter had way more leverage unless Earth was really going to go all-out), Thoroughbred-MPs you already know about...and the very first Bahamutcorp mecha, as well. Warmouths, early Bluegills, and early Palominos from Bucephalus.
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>>1225405
purposefully excluded because Karen built the transformation systems.
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>>1225410
man what the fuck do the Terrans even DO?
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>>1225405
Wings.
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>>1225384

Imagine what Clemmy could do with a Biocore. I don't have the ATM open right now, but I seem to remember that the BEYOND SUPER ULTIMATE mode for biocores (V-Max) works best with beam-focused mecha.
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>>1225416

They apparently have some sweet advanced tech and aside from that - nobody knows. Hang out being rich as fuck in a paradise world?

There were speculations of them being secretly gene-modded as well.
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>>1225385

I've never seen the abridged thing, it just made sense with his personality.
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>>1225423
https://youtu.be/Oh8AsXWcBbc?t=11m30s
A quick summary of his character on said series.
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>>1225430
Oops go to 11:30
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>>1225410
Thanks for the Info, Wong.

>>1225416
It's much funnier if you assume the Terrans are really advanced but Completely unaware of what's going on outside of Terra.

>"Shit dude, did you hear? There's a war going on!"
>"We should help out!"
>Overly enthusiastic Terrans assist in wiping out the Green Men, not knowing they're scaring the shit out of their allies

Later

>"Hey, the Jovians want some help preventing another war, should we help them?"
>"Fuck yeah bro. Let's give them some of those super soldiers we were working on."
>"The ones you were trying to make into the 'perfect waifu'?"
>"Yeah, everyone should be able to enjoy pink haired battle babes."

Even later

>"Jovians want help again."
>"Give 'em those lightsabers we were working on."
>"Hey! I went through a lot of trouble to make a working lightsaber!"
>"Then give them a bunch of the broken ones. They'll be able to figure it out."
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>>1225421
>And THIS is to go even further beyond Super Saiyan!
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>>1225434
I don't know what wong has planned for terrans but I really hope it's like this.
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>>1225416

Terra is supposedly quite sparsely populated and inhabited only by those who can pay MASSIVE habitation fees to "offset the damage to the planet's environment". For them to produce a TRADITIONAL army would, therefore, be quite difficult. However, the last time the Jovian government asked your question, it led to Project Skywalker, where Terran tech was provided to the Jovians and led to the popular beam sabers, wide-angle beam weapons, and reactive shields. They also control certain key industries, such as the building of gates, the companies that are contracted to make microgate projectors for starships, and the financial industry. They may have outlets all over the system, but you'll find Terrans occupying all of the uppermost levels. Some people argue that they're secretly controlling the system and even the galaxy itself, others claim that this is silly and there's no such thing as a Terran identity at all and it's more of a systemist paradise home for the richest citizens of the Solar System who still think of themselves as Jovian, Martian, Venusian, Lunar, etc.

However, there's also the fact that anyone trying to enter the Terran atmosphere unauthorized gets swarmed by flocks of extremely advanced mecha and torn apart. Granted, nobody has tried since the new era of bigger, stronger mecha like the Black Ogre. There's a lot of mysteries surrounding Terra, its people are very reclusive. The only one you know is Bruce Kelly, and he's a runaway.
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>>1225434
>every SOUL mech was made from 30 year old Terran surplus.
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>>1225434
Earth is America?
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>>1225448
he's a runaway AND a psychopath.
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>>1225421
Her emotions are so strong, the mandrake grows to full size in a instant and is battle ready for Roarke. It then proceeds to ruin everyone's day. Really, the more I hear, the more it feels like this is going to be some sort of pile-up of master plans. Fairchild will try something. Then the Avalonians. Then the Martians. Then some other group like the corps. Then some green skull remnants.
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>>1225448
Isn't Beckingham a Terran as well?
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>>1225451
worse: Terra is Super Silicon Valley
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>>1225453
>and then Roarke punched them all to death

Best end.
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>>1225457
Oh dear gods. Giga-hipster greenmen!
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>>1225459
Well, considering how we know there will likely be multiple parties causing trouble, that Roarke is going to surprise them right back with the stuff he's been doing behind the scenes. In a way, King's actions sharpened up Roarke.
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>>1225456

No. I...have to check, but I believe he's either from a Jupiter-affiliated colony or from Luna. Since he was a climatologist studying terraforming, he's fairly well-traveled. Bruce Kelly is The Renegade Terran.
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>>1225470
Before I forget, the mech Mika had. Do you have it's stats? Knowing it's data may be a good idea. And how is Psyche doing?
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>>1225470
Huh, I must be mistaken.

Did he ever get around to turning that one Captain's skull into a drinking glass?
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>>1225475
Actually, I am also curious about the orphans in general. It has been a while and I wonder how they, Mika, and not!mordred are doing.
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>>1225475

I'm 99% sure it was an extremely basic Medium Weight with Light Heavy arms and almost no supplemental systems or weapons besides a huge lump of metal, basically a frame that had armor and could be piloted but had nothing else added to it yet that was hurriedly salvaged and given a club.

Unless I'm really wrong, Oda took it to make his new ride. Which I'm having trouble with because I can't find the somewhat silly but still cool one someone made way back when to use as a basis for Oda's new one.

Which is ridiculous because I can't decide between (a) two Moonlight Greatkatanas, one in each hand (b) keeping the mass katanas or improved versions with a third sub-arm holding Dame Grey's Moonlight Greatsword tuned to look like a katana and (c) keeping the mass katanas or improved versions with a weapon mount in the head so he can hold the Moonlight Greatsword in the mech's mouth like Roronoa Zoro from One Piece.
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Ohhh, I know exactly the one you are talking about. Hang on, let me bring it up. http://pastebin.com/C9XDAj2Q
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Now I sleep while you argue about stuff and which version of the new Osano-Wo I should go with and whether the Blitz or the Valkyrie is more OP.

Ah, also, to the Blitz player...your Wide Angle loadout might not be kosher. One, because it's only useful against a single person, and two, because Wide Angle stuff is associated with Project Skywalker and hasn't made its way down to ex-military Martians yet.
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>>1225489
Night Wong.
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>>1225488

Please argue about whether I should use this or one that has multiple katanas while I sleep.

Although, am I seeing this right that it has a liquid metal sword, and NOT a traditional energy pool? Because, if so, the odds of Masakado being straight-up Oda's new mech skyrocket.
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>>1225496
That is indeed a liquid metal sword. As it says, this is the INCOMPLETE Maskado. To make it fit my limit, I skimped on a lot of stuff.
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>>1225498
To explain further, a Boosterpack for closing speeds even faster, Space efficiency for one handing and more thrusters, upping the armor two size categories and making it beta while bolstering the reactive shield. +2 Cool, anti-missile/personel eye beams with an advance sensor package, weight efficiency, and some bolstering so it's guns are hex wide angle. Probably not as expensive as the Kaiser with all it's bits, but up there when it's true form is ready.
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>>1225496
Night Wong.

Crap, I've slept too much!

Also, the problem isn't the Blitz, its the M-Sagister who have a Wide Beam gun... But her pilot is a rich martian noble and it seems that it involves the strategy of melting down multiple mooks while using its superior speed to keep them out of range, not really just a "Wow, look at my anti-Valkyre loadout" and could even have a good strategical value for a MP version.

Also.
>Avalonians have a Keikku
>Fairchild has a Keikaku
>That conversation Fatima had with Hakim also implies that he might have a keikaku
>Everyone plans to do something at the same place and same time.
>Chaos ensues.

>>1225486
WAIT, wasn't the Chevalier going to be Oda's new ride? Well, if the Not!Barbatos have Light Heavy arms it really makes more sense to use it but... Who will get Morgana's Frame?

Oh, Flint should be a good choice, it will make sense if the Stone Soldiers start using our Bushi.
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>>1225501
So, could we have some sort of "booster missile" that we would ride on to close distance, and then let go of once we got close to let it blow a dude up and then we could CQC them?

Kind of like Dynamic Space Entry?
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>>1225507
Starting to think Roarke shouldn't even go but should just plant a giant fucking bomb there and blow everyone up.

Problems. Solved.

I mean. He'd have a bunch of new and exciting problems, but those ones would be solved.
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>>1225507
Explaining a little better about the mook strategy.

>Jovian Offier mechs rarely exceed 9MA and Bluegills,Pumpkinseeds and mooks have MA7.
>M-sagister can move 8 or 9 hexes with an action.
>It can just fly back or after them while spamming hex beam at them.
>They will have to split up and the poor fellow who gets followed anyway will melt down in a few turns.
>Also, it detonates mines from a safe distance, clean space detritus and do wonder when aimed at groups of humans, really good to remove stains from your Beta Armor too.
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>>1225507
The masakado incorporates a lot of things from several mechs. It's got the Chevvy's reactive shield, a possibly heavily modified energy pool, and size. Would be better to say this thing is a merger of them with some extra MONEY thrown in. If Wong allows it, I can mock up a 400 cp model to show you the power of YAMATO(and money).
>>1225508
Was the idea with the booster pack. The model I was thinking is 12 CP or a dutchman style pack with higher max thrust.
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>>1225514
You have the CP limit has the most powerfull Non-Kaiser Iron Kestrel's mech.... So....360CP, have fun making the Zoro loadout.

Also, do me a favor and keep the MV at -5 or less ok?
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>>1225525
The Masakado was already at 350 to start and -4 MV. 10 CP would be enough to one hand the DAI-MASAMUNE and give it a 6 CP boosterpack. 25 I can up the reactive shield by 1, and give it eye beams along with the needed weight loss. With 30 I can get it some space efficiency in the torso for more thrusters and the Sakura petal generator. 45 I can up the armor a class, use some weight loss, space efficiency and thrusters to keep it at the same speed. The last 5 can be used for the guns to bring them up to 8 kills each. I can likely go with a smaller everything save arms to save money, but thats a tricky thing to calculate and it's almost dawn.
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>>1225392
>An anti beam wedding dress
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Send the pastebin for approval.

What loadout are you using? Dual wielding? Moonlight GreatKatana? ZORO!?

>>1225540
You are joking about it but the anti-Beam clothing already exists.
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>>1225547
I know, that's why I said it.

AB cloaks are the shit.
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>>1225547
None of the above. The one load out that really excited Wong, the morphable energy pool. This one, right here. http://pastebin.com/C9XDAj2Q
I'll do some small modifications, but it is late and I am half crazy. I will go for 375 as a happy medium.
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>>1225551
>inbf4 the Kaiser getting one.
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i can't wait to see Wong's take on Victor and the Templar
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>>1225557
Here, I modified it. Should fit better with Wong's vision. I filled it with more of my stuff. It can go a max speed of 35 MA a turn. http://pastebin.com/YDsXf6Gc 374.5 CP
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>>1225568
I find it very impressive the way he seems to read or minds on how we imagined our character based on our personalities and descriptions... and the chivalrious trio (Magnarus, Victor and Luca) are the ones who seem more elusive to me, as I have no idea on how your ideas will match up with the usual Avalonian behavior we have seen.

Also, see Akai helping to build the Templar or mentions of it would be amazing, as I want to see how far she learned from Karen.... And I want to see if she will be her usual or became shy on his presence and if she can be open about such feelings or will try to hide it in small gestures.

And I'm dying of curiosity about how Victor will deal with Akai chuuni and Magnarus "CHILVARIOUS!" Explosive happyness.

Wait... Now I'm seeing Magnarus and Luca behaving like Joseph Joestar and Smokey, going on trolling people and getting involved in crazy shenanigans.

>>1225572
Huhhh are morphable energy pools allowed now? And the Active shield can't have 0 turns of recharge... But I'm not sure if the maximum turn limit is one or two?
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>>1225580
The max can be 0 for reactives in the book. As is, Wong showed interest in it as seen here.>>1225496
I can do a rewrite of some stuff in the morning, but as is, this thing is a wonder once I get beta armor on it. The things that can scratch it's paint job will be very small, as fitting of the legendary Masakado.
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>>1225591
Rule-wise, yes.
But Wong has forbidden it to avoid the "Invencible mech connundrum" when someone made a Flying Tank with an active shield who used a drone to fly.
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>>1225580
>when Victor and Magnarus finally meet
>Pic related
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>>1225600
...Are you trying to steal him from me?
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>>1225637
Isn't it Akai who is taking Victor away ?
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>>1225638
In my opinion?
She wants to him and be loved back, but if being a Knight is important to him and part of who he are, she doesn't really wants to sour it for him or be in the way of his happiness... But she hopes that things we be okay as Lori is in love with Karen's Bishonen and this will make her and her Knights stay... Right?

She may despair if things don't go as planned.
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>>1225641
>She wants to love him and be loved back*
>But she hopes that things will be okay*
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>>1225638
I'm sure Lori will understand, and hopefully release him of his duties, when Victor decides to stay on auditorium
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>>1225646
S-Stop it anon! You're making my heart go dok doki!
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>>1225488
I feel compelled to point out that there's actually no legal way to have an attack factor shock weapon.
>>1225489
Also, because Kathrine absolutely has access to shock weaponry which would completely ignore the Blitz's armor, and potentially kill the pilot. She's just not using it because there's a limit to even my munchinry and general dickishness.
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>>1225228
Hunk is pretty old in resident evil if the one picture of him without a helmet is canon. He at least has grey hair.
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>>1225580

I missed that. Reduce the shield recharge to one turn. See if it can get beta armor.
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>>1225764
Did you say when you were running next?
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>>1225489
>Wide Angle
I really fucked up if there's actually a Wide Angle beam gun. I was just BMing Valkyrie anon about that.

>>1225512
>They will have to split up and the poor fellow who gets followed anyway will melt down in a few turns.
Are you talking about it using its talons or the beam gun? Because at the point it can only hit one mech, it's nothing more than a 1K beam gun, you're not going to be melting anything with that in a couple turns. Unless it's mega beam too. Which I doubt because that would cost somewhere around 30CP
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>>1225805
>about
"With" would probably make more sense.
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>>1225512
Minor addition as the designer of the M-sagister, Avian form mechs can't fly backwards at all, so the wide beam is a mid range chaser tool to help clear dropped mines and other shit that might get in the way of a chase as well as keep pressure on a target, if anybody dares to turn around and try something that puts them in danger of melee combat which is almost certainly death. Basically it sorta does what the old beam sweepers on the original version did but not quite as well but for 4 CP rather than 36.

I just wish I had a bit more cp to work with so it could either have a BV or enough damage to scratch beta armor.
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>>1225764
Alright. I'll work on that, and maybe buff the shield slightly if I got extra CP.
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>>1225886
Here we are. http://pastebin.com/0RWaqEhC
I even threw in some rocket fists for this thing. They serve no real purpose aside from long range grabbing things and the highest of high fives, but it's there.
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Is it me or the "King in Yellow" is that guy who Red Siren Loved?
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>>1225983
That guy commited suicide. He is, by all accounts, dead. Simon's dad seems the most likely with his talk of improving and lack of interest in love.
>>1225696
The book also said I cannot make AP incendiary missiles. I proved it wrong. Either way, the thing is liquid metal and a katana. Think of it like a mix of Iai strikes and metal serpenting around. Sudden and fierce like lightning.
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I was inspired.
http://pastebin.com/QztRd05a

Also, found some pretty samurai mech art.
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>>1226032
Ablative shields don't reset.
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>>1226038
Guess I'll have to read the rules again. Never saw that.
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Did Wong say when he was running next?
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>>1225789
>>1226124

Tuesday the tournament begins. Don't all abandon the thread at once, now, this is your last chance to fix mecha, finish going over them, and stuff like that.
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>>1226552
Any idea on who goes first?

And also, even though the Libra already made an appearance, can I make a slight change to the sniper loadout?
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>>1226574

Yes, there are a few days offscreen for mecha to receive their final tweaks, repairs, and updates.
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>>1226552
Are there any changes you want me to do to the Masakado before you go? >>1225942
this is the latest version of it.
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>>1226579
Well I suppose I could make an AMS loadout for the M-Sagister then...

basically just swapping the beam wave for a ams of the same CP.
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>>1226579
Cool, I was just going to see if I could fit some tracers in it.

Although I'm tempted to rebuild it now that I know I can reduce the range of LR weapons, but I'm afraid BR will kill me if I do.
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For everyone wanting to kill me for not giving updates to you for so long, sorry, things happened between me and someone important to me and I had to deal with that.

No, it wasn't a menage with trap-kun or something crazy in Darkness-tier.

Anyway, I'll be back by tomorrow and will try to get some work done until then... Also, my classes begin monday, so this weekend will probably be the best chance to get the attention you need for your mech from me or whatever.

IF everything goes well, and rarely something goes exact has planned on this quest, so I may be late tomorrow, but do not despair, I will do my best to at least appear to check some mechs for a few hours late in trhe night.
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>>1226674
Cool, I made an AMS loadout for the M-Sagister, its the same CP and weight as its standard weapon setup at least so that'll be easy.
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>>1226674
Well, have a image for your troubles. Hope all goes well.
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>>1226674
>I understand being busy, Monday will be my first day off in nearly 16 days
My awful work schedule aside
BR-Chan would you mind up dating the Wraith in the SpaceJam listings please
http://pastebin.com/nG5c2Cd4
I swapped out the vibroblade build for the Saboteur build with the mines
Thank you very much and good luck with your classes
Back to work I go
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>>1226674

http://pastebin.com/0y8dFSSU

I'll leave this here.
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>>1226687
Annnnd I forgot the pastebin....
http://pastebin.com/sR0KhwEu
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>>1226552
>>1226579

Well then. Time to figure out if the Myrmidon's loadouts can actually be improved further.
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>>1227201
Could you put where your A.M.S. is located. I figure that it's in your head, but I just want to be sure.
>>1227191
How fast does the Buddy Go? Have you considered making your beam gun fragile to cut down on thruster cost, and possibly giving you enough points to bring you down to mv-3.
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>>1227430
Calculating it, the thing is able to go 8 MA a turn. Just enough for flight in atmosphere.
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Say... How useful would a Mega Beam weapon with only 1K damage and infinite BV be, it would hit every servo at once multiple times... basically a short range melt ray...
Yeah I think I can stat it decently cheap if I make it barely above melee range....

hmm 37.2 CP for a 50m range (melee range basically) and -1 WA but I can basically melt the armor off of anything not wearing beta armor in one go.

>>1227430
Ah thanks, forgot that.
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>>1227456
>>1227191
Huh, in that case, never mind my suggestion. Just remove one of your thruster spaces since we round to the nearest whole number, per Wong's rules. Also add something so that we know you're M.A. 8.
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>>1227178
Couldn't you just make your three builds into load outs, since the only difference is your armaments?
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>>1227515
Out of the house for now, so I'll see what I can do later. Was thinking of lowering armor class for weight.
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>>1227613
Then I'll just make these suggestions: Make your beam gun have 10-shot clips so you can make it one-handed, because right now you have to choose between shooting your gun or being able to parry with your shield. If you lower your torso armor to heavy striker and make your gun fragile, you lower your I cost to 12, with a weight of 41.5, which should be easier for you to scrape the necessary points to bring you down to mv-3.
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>>1227724
We did away with the shield not being paryable while two handing anon.
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>>1227739
We did? Do you know what thread that decision was made in? I've been tweaking my mech under the assumption that that rule was still in effect. Kinda wishing that we had a solid list of the houserules.
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>>1227781
A while back. Wong mentioned it off the cup so it goes under the radar. It would explain the king swordfish that two handed his lance but still used his shield.
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So I decided to make a couple of changes to the Libra's CROWE.

First change was, after much deliberation, to drop one HE reload and the Scattershot rounds in favor of Armor Piercing rounds. I really, really wanted to keep the scattershot, but they are way to risky for their price to keep around, and why bother wearing armor down when I can just ignore it with cheaper ammo? This brought the total cost of the ACP configuration to 43.34 CP, still within the 140 CP limit.

Second change was, in risking BR's wrath, to rebuild the Sniper. Rather than let him check it though, I'll just show my math here so everyone can see it.

8 kills (8 CP)

WA +1 (12 CP)

.75 range (10.56 CP) (300m base, 1800m max)

BV 2 (15.84 CP)

Long Range (21.07 CP)

8.4 CP 10 burst AP ammo (29.47 CP)

6.3 CP 10 burst tracer ammo (35.77

24 space = 14 Space Efficiency to get 10 spaces = 7 CP (42.77 CP total)

Now it's a whole kill stronger in exchange for reduced range. It has less ammo now (20 bursts instead of 30), but hopefully the increased accuracy from the tracers will make up for it.

Last thing was I finally got around and properly identified my main sensors as Medium Strikers. Has the same cost, but now the range in readily available.
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and forgot to post my pastebin as well.

http://pastebin.com/FVLG56xL
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>>1227827

No I didn't, not entirely. King Swordfish could do that because its shield is on its torso. The common-sense explanation for why you can't parry with a shield while two-handing is because the shield is on an arm that's swinging around doing stuff, so if your shield isn't on one of the limbs that's two-handing, it's fine.

My justification for this houserule is thus. If your shield is on your arm, you can't use it on a turn where you swung a two-handed weapon. If it's on your torso, well, you stand a chance of taking torso damage even if you parry, so you have THAT as a downside. If you add another servo just for your shield, like the tails on the S-Swordfish and S-Slayer Mk. II, your downside is the added weight, so it all sort of balances out.
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>>1228099
Can you parry after firing a weapon that's on that limb?
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>>1228170

One handed or two handed? I forget if the book specifies melee or not. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me at all if the ATM had a fi for that rule entirely.
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>>1228312
One handed.

Also, did you actually okay Incendiary and Armor Piercing missiles?
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>>1228317
I thought he did considering we used the War crime in a box. That was a 20 kill, 20 blast, AP, Incendiary missile. Felt weird to not have napalm bombs or Anti armor missiles, since those aren't really new things.
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>>1227613
Alright, made some defense nerfs, as well as a range nerf, but seems like it works out.

http://pastebin.com/q9JMkqUq

>>1227833
Thinking about filching that anti-missile system from your mech. Gonna have to make adjustments to actually fit mine.
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>>1228368

I did for THAT specific case IN PARTICULAR. The same way that the Berenger has a Wide-Angle Entangling AP Melee Weapon but nobody else gets one.

I feel like it was originally supposed to be Shock, in fact, it might be, I lost its stats. Now THAT would be obscene, particularly since it also has a high-damage Quick, AP melee weapon. So it can stunlock the entire field and then dance around picking things that survive the harpoons off at will. Yeah, on second thought, it definitely did have Shock because that 100% explains why she fought the way she did and was so completely unruffled by facing you.
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>>1228400
Ahhh, so no AP-blast grenades then? I'll have to redesign the crackers again. Hard to make blast weapons viable.
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>>1228410
>hard to make blast weapons viable
>after seeing the Libra's grenade launchers in action

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>>1228384

http://pastebin.com/snZbhSzh

Slight adjustment.

>>1228418
It was pretty scary to see.
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>>1228418
For things with tougher armor I mean. Yeah, Libra's burst combined with blast is horrifying because it belches out explosives at a good clip and price. Not so much for missiles. Hasn't stopped me before, so I'll think of something. The indirect fire rule is still handy in that regard.
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>>1228444
And I figured it out. If AP is out, I'll simply double the number of grenades I have! Forgot to switch to the 0.5 kill main sensor anyways.
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I wonder how much it would cost to put Burst 1 on Amos' missiles, complete with maintaining speed and final weight?
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>>1228556
And there. Fixed it up. 6 crackers for standard, and 2 20 kill grand crackers for Guardian http://pastebin.com/xGaW3Fxu just needs Br to add it to the pastebin. Shouldn't be any other issues.
>>1228675
Blast would triple the cost. Trying to remember if the blast is counted all at once if it hits a shield, like a DA 0 or an active/reactive shield. Brain is failing me and my wording and understanding with it.
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>>1228675
I wonder if there is any way to disable missiles without destroying them. Is it possible to redirect missiles or immobilize them? I wonder because Roarke has a bunch of flying fists that apparently have fine motor control. Could he hypothetically use them to grab a missile mid-flight? I'm sure missiles travel faster than the drones but it'd be nice to know what sort of silliness is allowed.
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>>1228736
Well, jamming and dodging them would mean they miss. Could pick up a fuse one and throw it back as a possibility. Would require digging and looking into it in the morning.
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Slight change to Skunks robot. I swapped out the hands for cheaper custom hands so I could make the flamethrower one handed. Not much point in buying a big DA 0 shield if he cant block with it. I also managed to fit in a 7K missile.
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>>1228777
http://pastebin.com/Rr2Ziuaa
Probably help if I put in the pastebin.
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Hey guy, i know Wong probably already went to bed by now, but i had a question about metaform limbs, like on the M-Sagiser and Gyrfalcon. It transforms the legs (or possibly arms) into wings, giving extra speed, but it also loses all functionality as a wing. Does it still get to use it's feet as melee weapons if it's in wing mode? Wings don't have feet, after all, and neither do folded up legs used as thruster pods. If it can't that might be a problem for them, melee wise.
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>>1228835
They can't use the feet in wing mode, thats why M-Sagister avoids using it on battle, but they can still fly and fight with their feets when in leg mode.
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Tried making a Hyaku Shiki using the Mekton Zeta document here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HrqFYexa2QrbEBJi0EeCmK5Fa8B1nD63aLHygAnLVvM/edit#gid=2081447678

Ended up costing a ton of CP...about 377 CP in total. And that's not including a second beam saber and the Hyper-Mega Launcher.

At least it has a MV of -1. And Gamma Armor.

Hope this link works.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DTAkmFWf0wpARcKKo30J5iaGx-68KNyay9IzyxD0xCU/pubhtml#
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>>1229487
And just noticed the left wing got screwed up somehow.

Oh boy.
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>>1228835
I wouldn't be able to use the talons unless I added a weapon mount into those servos iirc, but then they wouldn't get the servo attack bonus.

so yeah when the wings are active the M-Sagister is essentially a gun ship relying on its torso gun and the wave chaser. That said If it really needs melee but doesn't have time to transform it could still ram you and probably come off the better for it considering how heavy duty its torso is.
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>>1229495
Here we go, had to fix the formula in there because I screwed it up by copy-pasting stuff.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DTAkmFWf0wpARcKKo30J5iaGx-68KNyay9IzyxD0xCU/pubhtml

Cost could definitely be lowered if everything went full Beta armor than Gamma.
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>>1229543
And it doesn't show...just note that the left wing should have the same thruster spaces as the right wing.
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>>1228317

One handed, yes.
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>>1229543
As someone who tried to figure out how to make the Hyaku Shiki, a few things.

It's more likely a Mediumweight Frame with an MV of -2.

I'm ambivalent on the Gamma armor. It's tough, but most Zeta era Mechs had the same toughness. What makes it special is the beam resistant coating, which can't actually be represented appropriately in the System. Yeah, there's energy absorbing armor but that has some dumb rules attached to it.

What's with the stats on that Beam Rifle? As in, why chose those?

I think you represented the IDE properly.

I guess Verniers can be used to represent the movable frame tech, but, personally, I think a custom modifier for making the suit more fragile in exchange for mobility would work better. I also think Magnetic Coating would be neat.

>>1229695
Thanks Wong.
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>>1230195
there's a beam retardant coating that's in the stealth section for some reason, it subtracts IK from any incoming beam damage, its like a .1 cost multiplier
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>>1230195
I think that he was using the running gundam in mekton rules when he did this, though there are some weapon inaccuracies if that's true.
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After figuring out that I calculated the beam rifle wrong again (because I want to factor range as .75 rather than the .88 it's supposed to be) as well as little adjustments, finally think I have it down well enough that I can call this a final version of the Buddy.

http://pastebin.com/xEUhxKf9

Check and update.

>>1230195
I was thinking about making it a mediumweight, too, but then I saw how tall it would be. I should just ignore that.

I'm also kinda iffy on the Gamma armor, since you're right, there's no such thing as anti-beam coating.

I'm gonna admit that the Beam Rifle stats were just thrown out there to make a beam rifle.

Got something right at least.

I was trying to work out with what the book had, and verniers seemed like the best option. That would be an interesting houserule to sacrifice kills in exchange for mobility.

>>1230227
Was there? Let me see...there is. Oh wow, never knew that.

Speaking of multiplier systems...funny how the Targeting Computer multiplier system isn't mentioned, as far as I know. Then again, it is in the back of the Tactical Display book...
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>>1230227
I feel that's extremely expensive for what it provides. Especially since the coating ablates.
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>>1230294
You could use those beam reflector things.
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>>1230318
Reflectors are an active defense.

Anti-Beam Coating would more accurately be Ablative Command Armor that only works against Beam Weapons and has no Balance Modifier. You can get all but the Beam Weapon only part.
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>>1230352
Couldn't you also do it as a interference-type reactive shield with a reset time of 0?
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>>1230294
where does it say it ablates? I'm looking at page 75 of the ATM under Beam Refract Cloaking and it doesn't say anything about ablation...?
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>>1230352
>>1230376
my bad, should be a screen interference-type reactive shield.
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>>1230395
I used bad grammar, sorry. Anti-Beam Coating is supposed to ablate.

>>1230402
That could work if you house ruled away the Spaces and split it up by limb. You buy it once and it adds that SP of ABC to each limb.
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>>1230424
Adding in to the fragility thing from earlier, you could always sacrifice servo kills for space.
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>>1230441
Yeah, but that's a function of movable frame systems, not Anti-Beam Coating.
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Maybe a better way to represent movable frame tech is to just make a smaller mech.
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Wasn't the whole deal with movable frames that they built armor around the frame instead of building it into it?
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>>1231175
It used to be that there was a layer of armor around the mech's internal "skeleton" and the rest of the Mech's armor was built on top of that. Movable frames got rid of that internal armor which made the frame lighter and more maneuverable.
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>>1231440
Doesn't look like there's anything comparable to that other than weight efficiency or sacrificing servo Kills for space. Kind of like the RX-78 when it got the magnetic coating to the joints, there just isn't an equivalent in the system other than reducing the mv penalty.
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Changed some of the Pharcyde's stuff around, half missile count and added an active shield, I just keep getting the feeling I added it wrong and I'd like someone to check the math.

http://pastebin.com/6tFrdx9A

Think after that small skirmish it would be better to have more defense since the Flail is already a pretty good offensive weapon in my opinion.
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>>1231671
A few problems that I noticed: the range on your face should be 200m, since it's based off of your arms throw distance, which is 4 hexes. The range on your Missiles should be 337.5m. And your active shield takes up 9 Spaces, as that is half of its cost. I suggest either lower it's SP or trade for for a I shield.
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>>1231759
Flail, not face. Standard, not I. Fucking autocorrect.
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>>1231759
And please round your Thrusters to the nearest whole number, i.e. 12 or 13.
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>>1231557
That, or building a smaller mech. The movable frame Mechs are smaller.
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>>1231801
Yeah, but then you have to figure out how to calculate size.
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>>1231871
1.5 times torso kills.
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>>1231759
>>1231771
>>1231792
Alright thanks for the help boss, decided to take your advice and just go for a standard shield, here's the updated Pastebin:

http://pastebin.com/6tFrdx9A
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>>1231960
Looks good, just add in the remaining 6 Spaces of Thrusters and designate where your storage module is, and you should be good to go. Remember, your point cost is equal to your space usage in thrusters.
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>>1231984
Right, updated again. http://pastebin.com/6tFrdx9A
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>>1230195
>MV of -2

Stop
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>>1228855
Here you go Brazil(and Wong if he so chooses to poke the mechs just to make sure there is no problems). A list of the final updates so far in thread so no one is missed and it's easier for you to find them.
>>1228734
>>1228784
>>1232034
>>1230258
>>1227914
>>1227178

Death in the family means I'll be busy for the next few days, but I should be good for Tuesday. Apologies to the one person I said I'd do some digging for.
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>>1232169
I have to ask, what's the deal with not liking how MV is stated?
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>>1231557

When in doubt, Weight Efficiency, which I've more or less fully refluffed as "it's more efficient at moving despite its heavy weight" than "it's literally lighter because it's made from unicorn wishes".
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>>1232377

Players in this game have a bad but understandable habit of trying to push MV penalties as low as humanly possible.

Were you here during the Vernier Times, where whenever someone made a mech they'd try to slap verniers on and get its MV to -1 or -0?
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>>1232467
That does seem a little excessive, especially since there are quite a few other ways to reduce mv penalties.
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>>1232467
Ah.

I think I wasn't paying attention during those times, but yeah, I know that feeling.

>>1232507
I know Weight Reduction is one way, but what are some others?
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>>1232507

The problem is that a lot of them flat-out don't work in this setting. For instance, I believe Thought Control reduces MV. Except in-setting what makes a mech a mech is thought control to begin with (maybe I should have reduced all weight penalties by 1 to represent that from the beginning? Oh well)
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>>1232531
Thought control, and the power plant.
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>>1232540
Also Techno organic, but when the mech takes damage and loses a system/servo attached to it it takes a penalty cause its in pain as a living creature.
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>>1232538
For the most part techno-organics are limited to Avalon with a few exceptions, but what about the turbocharger? Plus we could still overcharge or supercharge the powerplant.
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>>1232540
>>1232546

Oh, all of the souped-up powerplant stuff still works in theory. Putting it into practice is harder, and remember that there's a soft ban on hot powerplants in this culture. It's not that they don't exist, it's that the military bans them and most of the serious pirate bands view them as a dangerous liability, which means any souped-up powerplants would be expensive cool ones.

Roarke, of course, has Loriette's waifu bonus growing in a tank in Karen's care to get around that.
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>>1232563
Yeah, but the only reason I could see for even making your plant run hot is if the setting called for it (Gundam) or you're trying to get that extra multiplier back on a standard plant. You're better off improving your Cockpit or just buying the ACE than risk that xs roll for the extra MP.
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>>1232169
Wong, its MV in that sheet is 0. I'm telling him to make the Shiki LESS maneuverable. -2 is incredible for a Mediumweight Frame.
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>>1232169
>>1232681

Also, -2 is being true to the Shiki's abilities. It's an extremely manueverable mech.

If you don't like it, what would you make it?
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>>1232681
Put it at -1. Guess the sheet is still borked.

Thanks, Google.
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>>1232684
Dunno if it is. I just thought it was 0 for some reason.
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>>1232683

Are you using existing stats from somewhere where all gundams are rocking -0s or something? If not, then it's not "being true" to anything but what you want it to be at.

HS is pretty disappointing for a Char mech, I'd put it at -4 out of pity.
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>>1232681

Incredible in what sense? -2 for a Mediumweight is, at least in this quest, un-fucking-heard-of levels of maneuverable. That's a degree of weight reduction on par with the Oliver. You could maybe make a case for Victory being that light, but HS? Get outta here with that nonsense.
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On top of that, 350+ for the Hyaku Shiki, one of the most basic quasi-gundams around? Hell to the naw. There's no metric for how much, exactly, is improved by something like the movable frame, going "+1 for every bit of technobabble" is just...silly. It's the same old "I like it so it should have no maneuverability penalty" cancer that's existed for over fifty threads now, and I'll have no part of it.
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>>1232756
yeah I get that a lot at the mekton game I play with some friends.
I think people forget that their enemies have penalties as well.
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>>1232746
>>1232750
>>1232756
Well, I seem to have made a huge landmine. Sorry for that, was just doing something for fun. Didn't think it'd get this bad.
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>>1232943
There's a lot of potential cheese shenanigans and dumb bullshit to be had in this system, and Wong's been trying to curtail as much of it as possible.

the early threads were fucking loaded with them.
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>>1232746
>HS is pretty disappointing for a Char mech, I'd put it at -4 out of pity.

Compared to what? The Sazabi?
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>>1232746
Also, from http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Running_Mobile_Suit_Gundam_in_Mekton_Zeta

>Verniers (or Apogee Motors): # of verniers / 5 = bonus to MV (nearest). # of verniers = spaces (use exact number of verniers, and try to figure out exactly how many are in each location). Important! If the MS has Magnetic Coating, consider the MS to have another +1MV worth of verniers (yes, you do have to pay for this, but the 5 Spaces taken by the extra MV bonus are Space Efficiencied -- 2.5 CPs -- to zero). Also note that Magnetic Coating grants "Efficient Transformation " (yes, you must buy this too).
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>>1233175
To be fair, under those rules even the mooks from zeta have a mv of -2.
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>>1233408
I just think the Shiki would have an MV of -2 to -3. Zeta Era suits were extremely maneuverable.
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>>1232950

This.

>>1233083

It's literally a prototype Delta Plus without the waverider transformation. Char is good when he has some serious melee and a bunch of other, weird, weapons to throw around (like with the Sazabi or his original Zaku, yes), the HS suffered from the Feddie tradition of "you get a bog-standard beam saber and rifle, live with it", and the mega-launcher didn't save the design. It looked cool, yes, and it was arguably a gundam, but it was clearly holding him back. Honestly, it's a crying shame he never got one of the later Gelgoog improvements or one of Neo-Zeon's super-Gyans.
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>>1233442

Using those houserules where gundams can blink around like super saiyans on the magic of verniers, sure. In regular MZ, fuck no, absolutely not.
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>>1233478
The Shiki doesn't even have Verniers/Apogee Motors. It's got Magnetic Coating and the Movable frame and that's it.

>>1233458

So you're saying Char is good when he's got a gimmick?
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>>1233478
>>1233529

Actually, I take it back. It has 12 Attitude Vernier Thrusters. Using the houserules, that's a Vernier adjustment of +2 and a +1 from the coating.
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>>1233543
Then under those houserules, it should be mv+0, since it qualifies for a supercharged powerplant. Which is ridiculous. Wong is right in that that amount of maneuverability is bullshit, period.
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>>1233660
Tell that to the Mandible.
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>>1233683
I will, while flying and shooting at it with my 12K gun.
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>>1233683

The Mandible is literally a living bug with a compartment for a pilot.
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>>1233837
>>1233696
I meant more about how despite its crazy maneuverability its still ha heap of junk.
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>>1233660
And that's perfectly alright for its setting. Like Wong said, it wouldn't jive in vanilla Mekton Zeta or the MSPQ setting.

Not gonna lie though, I might adapt that Magnetic Coating rule for my own use though.
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>>1233837
Wong, would you consider it a ripoff if I said I'd been considering making a faction in my setting called the Kingdom of Albion that was descended from the British Royal Family and it's nobility?
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This is probably sort of cheesy but can you attack and then grapple on the same turn with a quick handy/entangling weapon since grappling is an attack? Could we jab and punch on the same turn?

Also looking at the core books hand to hand attacks there are some dumbass rules. You cant punch people in the legs and you can only use regular kicks to hit other peoples legs.
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>>1233872
Wong doesn't have a monopoly on ideas, anon

Just don't set it in MSPQ and it wouldn't be disrespectful
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>>1233872

That sounds pretty good actually. As for being a rip-off, the origin is clearly different (British royal house vs. large group of bored rich assholes and their staff) and the "mecha=knights" comparison is one that's pretty easy to make, so naming your mecha or pilots after a well known group of them is rather logical.

Now, a real rip-off would be a setting where our protagonist finds the crashed remains of the CAROLUS MAGNUS, repairs it and pilots it against several warlords commmanding the 12 peers of the realm in order to become king, just in time to deal with the invading army of mecha-tyranids.
So it's a good thing no one made that one, right?
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>>1233886
I thought you could, but there would be penalties for both scenarios.
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>>1234248
You have to use some other sort of kicking technique if you want to hit anything other than the legs, each with even worse WA. Which is dumb as shit, how is it easier to kick someone in the legs than the torso? Kicking people in the torso is the first thing they teach you to do.
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>>1233889
It's not set in MSPQ, although Wong used a bunch of ideas I really like in sci-fi.

>>1233999
Yeah, I've got nothing like that in mind. The MC will have a custom mech at the start of the Quest but it's one they'll have upgraded from their military service.
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Alright, so I have a lot of free time tonight, and since a bunch of us are still waiting to get our mechs math checked, I thought that I would offer my services. I would also appreciate it if someone could check my Chimera for any errors I might have missed. http://pastebin.com/HUtX5W9U
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Once in a blue moon I want to run a fantasy quest, but then I check the catalog, see how many there are, and realize that there's probably no point.
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>>1234821
What kind of fantasy?
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>>1234856

Crazy Wong-style fantasy using REIGN's system and a homebrew setting because it has decently simple mechanics and rules for kingdombuilding that would translate well into a "vote on what action your unit takes this month" style of play. Expect magical cataclysms, bizarre dragons, weird environments, little magical healing, and possibly strange races.

The first time I ran REIGN, it was set in a world of flying islands hovering over a layer of blackness nobody could traverse because airships used crystals that gathered sunlight and released it as magical energy and the dark layer was too thick for them to get through without running out of power (and there were implied giant predators).

The second time I ran it was in world where everyone was an elf. Everyone. Humans were an ancient legend, non-elf races were mostly magically twisted elves like satyrs and harpies, and the world was recovering from a huge war between the mountain elves and wood elves. Because iron was poisonous as fuck to elfkind, weapons were made from bronze alloys or enchanted glass or claws from great oceanic beasts, and such.
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>>1234922
That really does sound pretty awesome. I like the floating islands one.
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>>1234922
>REIGN lets you make your own spells
I've got to check this out.
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>>1234922

Also because REIGN in theory allows for custom esoteric disciplines and magic schools.
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>>1234979
It's even free.
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>>1234952

My biggest problem with it, creatively speaking, is that cavalry played less of a role than I would have liked.
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Guys, are you encouraging me? Because that's dangerous. Things happen when you encourage Wong.
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>>1235006
Let's at least finish Gen 1 of MSPQ before you start getting ideas.
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http://www.mediafire.com/file/zo71859gpm37o5w/ORE+-+REIGN.pdf

http://www.mediafire.com/file/qastn3j37v1tc7k/Reign_Enchiridion_%288382222%29.pdf

For the curious.
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>>1235006
Maybe. I'm trying to download the PDFs, but his website is shit.

>>1235023
What about the 30 odd supplements though?
https://gregstolze.com/features-tag/reign/
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>>1235021

It's probably a bad sign that I have no idea how long that's going to take, but...eighty-odd threads for a quest so far is far from bad.
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By the way, on the subject of THIS quest, here's how we're doing the tourney. I ran into a little trouble because of the number of people, I originally planned to cut it off at 16 but didn't have the heart to do it to you guys. My concession is this, and I can bullshit it as a bit of protection against certain builds. Eventually, we come down to 3 contestants, as you'll see below. They'll paticipate in a SPECIAL EVENT, the winner of which gets to skip the semi-finals and go straight to the final match. Remember, the objective isn't just to win, some mecha are just a mismatch against each other, this is a chance for unknown pilots and mecha to show their stuff and get possible Iron Kestrels sponsorships.

Round 1. 24 competitors, 12 winners. Yes, it was 22 at last count, I added two more NPCs (although one is doomed to job to the other) for ease of numbers.

Round 2. 12 competitors, 6 winners.

Round 3. 6 competitors, 3 winners.

SPECIAL EVENT, guarantees one of the remaining 3 a seat in the finals.

Round 4, semifinals, two competitors, one winner.

Round 5, finals, two competitors, one winner.
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>>1235023
Oh Shit! This is run using the ORE system! Always wanted to try it with Wild Talents. Had no idea they did a fantasy setting.
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>>1235093
Wong I am curious how would the rounds proceed? Would one function as an NPC with you rolling for them while another is the 'PC' where everyone else rolls for them?
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Wait, we only have 20 competitors counting not-Revy.

Alright, this is a problem that can be resolved with more faceless NPCs. They'll fight each other until a particular one is the last standing.

Tentatively, this is the order. I'm a BIT tempted to swap things around so that Pharcyde fights the Pumpkinseed II right away, but...at the same time, granny versus kid is 2good. Or I'll take the NPC with the guaranteed wins against other NPCs and swap him with Revy, I'll need to sleep on it, and fortunately there's a lot of fights ahead of that.


FIGHT 1:
Libra x Wraith

FIGHT 2:
Templar x Ulfberht

FIGHT 3:
Morgan II "Buddy" Custom x Palomino "Loggerhead" Custom

Fight 4:
Lightning x Huskarl

FIGHT 5:
Gyrfalcon x M-Sagister

FIGHT 6:
Pharcyde x Myrmidon

FIGHT 7:
Valkyrie x Blitz

FIGHT 8:
Walkure x Dutchman

FIGHT 9:
Chimera x Fiddler

FIGHT 10:
Pumpkinseed Jaeger x Pumpkinseed II (Blue Knight variant)

FIGHT 11:
??? vs. No Count

FIGHT 12:
??? vs. ???
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>>1235165
So the Libra fight is on Tuesday?
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>>1235140

If the player is present, they get to roll for their character and make all tactical decisions unilaterally. Otherwise, the general body of players roll for them and I make the decisions that seem wise unless someone points out something obvious that I missed.

>>1235171

Yes, exactly.
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>>1235191
Cool, hopefully I'll be around for that since I get off early that day.

and hopefully I wont fall asleep in the middle of it.
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>>1235218

Good luck, the Wraith is fragile but that stealth is no joke.
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Can't wait to go 1v1 with one of my favorite Gundam characters.
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>>1235252
If this turns into a sniper deul, than depending on how big the arena is, he can easily outrange me and stay that way.

and if he goes with the saboteur loadout, all I have to do is saturate the area with grenades.
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>>1235191
Fair enough I got college so I may or may not be present, BR Anon did create the mech I'm using so I suppose it's fair he would have control over it unless Mag is facing Victor or BR Anon's character.
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>>1235165

Hey Wong, while you are working out the rules for the tournament, coulld you tell us more about the arena? For instance, are we fighting in the colony or in space? Are there obstacles or cover in the ring? Does the venue change between fights to keep pilots on their toes?
Does the Kaiser preside over each battle atop a giant throne made from the scrapped remains of it's enemies?
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>>1235191
Question, how does one confirm for their respective pilots?
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>>1235191
Cool. I can hand over control to the thread and it'll be fun to watch.

While it could be fun to manage the character on my own, I have a feeling a body of players can do better.
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>>1235495

This is a good question. It's easy for tripfags like Thunder and BR, and /qst/ has ID's so you can keep track of a person, but how do you stop an anon from claiming a mech that is not his?
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>>1235600
A screencap of the pastebin being edited
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>>1235600
Shouldn't be a problem for those of us that also have pastebin.com accounts. We can just make a bin with our id to prove who we are.
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>>1235600
Who would go on the internet and just pretend to be someone else?
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>>1235654
Who knows~
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>>1235600

IDs make it easier, and we're somewhat using the honor system. Don't be a cunt with other people's mecha. You can temporarily tripfag if you really want, I guess.
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>>1235658

You're right, it'll probably be fine. Honestly, we seem to have very little of the usual faggotry in this quest lately, it's almost like the only people left who post are the ones that actually like it.

Besides, i'll probably be early enough to claim control well in advance. Upside of living in GMT +1.
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>>1235735
Considering how many people are here thats impressive.
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>>1235766
88 posters total. pretty impressive number for such a board
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>>1234998
What kind of Cavalry did you want? Like normal horses or something else?
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>>1235658
I'll be honest, I would MUCH prefer to leave control of the Myrmidon in your hands.
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>>1235841

Also an option.
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For anybody whose played Moon Dwellers, is it better to put Josh and Rim in the Fortegigas or their two separate mechs?
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>>1235847
Thanks.

Out of curiosity, are most Pumpkinseed-IIs still armed with those 3K beam guns?
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>>1235940

Yes, Gaunt rifles are fairly new.
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>>1235955
Wow.

I know that they also have those Heavy Missiles but the fact that it would take them Multiple shots to kill a Harpy is just sad.
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By the way, someone talk me out of this fantasy quest idea, because things ARE starting to come to a boil and from here on in it's going to be one wild Roarke ride, and I might run the fantasy quest in between crazy shit going down.
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>>1236200
Think about how badly we would exploit the magic making system. It would be the low MV Wars all over again.
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>>1236200
Running two quests at the same time could burn you out.
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>>1236213

If I allowed custom spellcasting schools. If I didn't demand you have a theme to them. If I didn't intrude at every oppotunity.

Now, if we used Nain's rune magic I might have cause to worry, but it's hard to minmax a full pool with it.
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>>1236219

That it might, but the thing is...I generally really enjoy and get invigorated by running the quest. Occasionally I run too much and don't have time to properly plan and chew ideas over, and that's my biggest problem, especially because of one very important factor. Early on, I'd run maybe once or twice a week. Now I tend to run about three days a week minimum with average sessions shorter by an hour or so. If I ran a second quest, I'd sharply limit myself to keeping that limit of only running three days a week, however there'd be less filler because I'd have time to think and plan things out in advance.

Now, I'm not going to just go out and start a fantasy quest, but if there's widespread support among you guys I'll probably run one eventually. It's hard to say, because I don't know yet which setting problems Roarke will fix on his own and, in my estimation, this game isn't more than 3/5 of the way through to begin with.
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>>1236200
Burnout is a very, very real threat. My suggestion is that you make a ton of notes and think it over. And I mean a ton.

I've made something like seven Mechs of various kinds over the past few weeks and I've written a ton of setting details in order to tide myself over until I actually have time to run my own game.
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By the way, we are absolutely changing how gaining CP from salvage works. Originally, just getting parts was a big deal, now the Kaiser only really improves from getting RARE parts, from other ace machines. It's also hard to calculate upgrades because spaces are becoming a bit less plentiful than they used to be, to the point where I've considered incorporating Wings into the structure of the Fist Drone Cape the Kaiser is growing to earn some extra spaces.

As for boosterpacks, I know they're popular, but I'm not a big fan of equipping them as part of a mech's standard loadout unless that mech is constantly using dashes. The way I'm more likely to do it now that you have the resources is to have Karen attach one when you need it, have you use it up getting to wherever, and then ejecting it to fight.

Currently you have four drones, your biocore is not yet big enough to install. I'm trying to remember what the other upgrades you all wanted were, and as I think of them I'll respond to this post and during the tourney work on a new upgrade sheet.

For now:

Anti-Range Reactive Shield
More Drones
Design & Decor (does not add to your already gross Kaiser Grin modifier)
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>>1236261
I don't know if this is a good idea, but you could always run a sort of quest vignette or whatever it would be called.

You're this guy, you can do this, you're at this place, trying to do this, etc. between MSPQ sessions.

It would let you get familiar with running the system on 4chan's format, what you should and shouldn't let us players do, and it would get regular players familiar with the system and playing it if you ever ran a full quest.


It could still make you burn out though.
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>>1236290

I'm not doing this for a long time if at all, BUT, if I do, I'm diving in like I did with this quest, only with a bit more experience because I've ran REIGN twice before.
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>>1236288
>Anti-Range Reactive Shield

I think it was also Mirror.
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>>1236288
>I'm trying to remember what the other upgrades you all wanted were

Well a chocolate dick that ejaculates money would be nice. Real hit with the ladies, I'm told.
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>>1236222
>Nain's rune magic
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>>1236288
Oh, almost forgot.

An AWACS ship so we can alpha strike unsuspecting enemies with missile salvos.
Or was it super long range beam batteries? I can't remember what that guy kept pushing for.
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>>1236334
Awacs ship that let you warp in, fire missiles if you don't immediately get roasted, and then be useless for the rest of the battle
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>>1236340
Oh yeah, I remember now because I read that thread in the archive and thinking he wanted to dedicate two ships into maybe killing one.
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>>1236349
>that entire post
Time for bed
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>>1236200
>fantasy quest
Wong, planning high, low, or urban fantasy?
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On a non-tourney related note, I've got a mech design here that I'd like some feedback on. It's a bit of a proof of concept design more than anything.

Torso: Heavy Striker: C/S/K 10, 5 tons
Head: Heavy Striker: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons
L. Arm: Heavy Striker: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
-L. Hand: Cost 2, Space 1, Damage 1K, Kills 1, 0.5 tons
R. Arm: Heavy Striker: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
-R. Hand: Cost 2, Space 1, Damage 1K, Kills 1, 0.5 tons
L. Leg: Heavy Striker: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
R. Leg: Heavy Striker: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons

Armor: Heavy Striker ( 5 SP, 5 CP, 2.5 tons) on all locations

Frame Cost: 73 CP
Frame Weight: 33.5 Tons

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton

Cockpit: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces)

Options: Torso Storage Module (1 CP, 1 Space), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Anti-Theft Code Lock (0.2 CP)

Frame Cost (Pre-Weaponry): 82.7 CP
Frame Weight (Pre-Weaponry): 35.5 Tons

Armaments:
-Beam Rifle: Range 10, WA +1, 6K, Infinite Ammo, 10.5 CP (9+1.5), 9 Spaces, 3 tons (Space Efficiency: 3)
-Heat Axe: WA 0, 7K (6K+1), AP, 6 CP, 6 Spaces, 3 Tons
-Arm-Mounted Shield: DA -2, SP 8, 8 CP, 1 Space, 4 tons

Mech Cost: 109.2 CP
Mech Weight: 45.5 Tons

Thrusters: 8 MA [ .3*45.5 = 16 CP | 16 Spaces ( 6 in each leg, 1 in Each Arm, 1 in Head and Torso)]

Total Cost: 125.2 CP
Mech Weight: 45.5 Tons (-4 MV)
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>>1236321

A supplement to regular REIGN, it's a system where you basically level up in "words" and have items that grant bonuses to those "words" and cast spells based on those "words". The Nain setting doesn't interest me so much as the rune magic, which works very differently from typical REIGN sorcery.

Basic REIGN sorcery works like this. You have a tree of spells in each school. The weaker ones generally don't require attunement, the stronger ones do. What's attunement? A ritual that aligns your magic with the magic of that spell school. Either you temporarily attune with a different spell, letting you cast an attuned spell once (so you'd need two castings for that lightning bolt), or you PERMANENTLY ATTUNE. Permanently attuning means you can't cast spells from any other schools, ever, and it also permanently alters your body somehow. Also, if you use the permanent attunement ritual in-play and somehow fuck it up it might just fail and never let you try again, or might horribly warp your body, so you're advised to do it with the most preptime and caution possible.

Also, you can "forget" spells you don't use, and it's common to have learned the permanent attunement ritual way back in your backstory and "forgotten" it later after you were attuned, the way many grown-up Jews don't read Hebrew very well despite having had a Bar Mitzvah. You can buy a successful permanent attunement as a background advantage at chargen, and it's probably easier than going through the hassle of learning and performing the ritual if that's what you plan to do.

Both being an attuned sorcerer and an unattuned sorcerer are 100% viable. The first game I ran had a Fire Dancer who was attuned and used flame spells as a backup to her swordplay because she had the points to do both. The second one had a Wings of Words storm sorcerer who was basically a lightning fairy because their attunement makes their bodies more fragile and gives them wings. Personally, if I ever played REIGN, I'd go unattuned and use Smoke Sculpting (which has no attunement requirements on any spells) as my main combat school.

One interesting thing is that there's no mana or limit on how many spells you can cast. If you keep making the rolls, you can keep chucking fireballs or smoke guillotines or casting the spell that instantly makes you as clean as if you just stepped out of a bath, a bit like WFRP minus Perils of the Warp.
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>>1236334

He wanted to have a ship that was basically a flying ansible that would locate an enemy's position and broadcast it to your fleet sitting at base, who would then use their microgate projectors and all jump on the target at once to fire missiles.

Sidenote, I'm kind of tempted to convert some of the Kestrels transports into cheap little missile boats.
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>>1236368

Elder Scrolls meets Fire Emblem meets Wong.
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>>1236374
>Both being an attuned sorcerer and an unattuned sorcerer are 100% viable. The first game I ran had a Fire Dancer who was attuned and used flame spells as a backup to her swordplay because she had the points to do both. The second one had a Wings of Words storm sorcerer who was basically a lightning fairy because their attunement makes their bodies more fragile and gives them wings. Personally, if I ever played REIGN, I'd go unattuned and use Smoke Sculpting (which has no attunement requirements on any spells) as my main combat school.

I understood literally nothing of what you just said but it still sounds fucking cool.
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>>1236288
Reflex controls
Boatloads of WE
Esper Lens (for Kung fu magic through Kaiser)
Turbocharge
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>>1236370

Looks like a pretty basic Officer Warmouth or Morgan II to me. Like, that's honestly exactly what you'd see.

Frankly I should just give regular Pumpkinseed IIs 6K single-shot beam rifles because the 3K popguns are pathetic.

That said, it's a good basic Warmouth/Morgan II, but not an ace one. Captain Clearwater's is similar but has a bigger Quick melee weapon, for instance, in the form of his rocket-propelled mace. Garret's original one had armor a step up from that (in fact, all Warmouths should have Medium Weight armor) and replaced the weapons with paired heavy autocannons he'd tuned up the aim on.
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>>1236394

One of those is never going to happen and three of those are just MV decreases...oh, wait, that was the point, wasn't it? You scalawag!
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>>1236404
What can I say. I guess a Rudimentary cloaking system would be cool for the Kaiser. I mean imagine during a fight it just blinks out, then its right in your face.
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>>1236390

It's entirely viable to attune permanently to one magic school (like dance-based pyromancy or shouting-based weather magic), use only those spells, and spend points on other stuff like being a master politician or a swordsman or something. It's also viable to declare yourself an archmage of versatility and learn ALL THE SPELLS and attune to no school.
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Alright back for a bit.
>>1236288
Something for our feet to increase accuracy of our kicks. Maybe feet blades or chainsaw heels? Could go for armor piercing. Would make them our anti force field weapon if we size them up. Space efficiency to help make more room where possible.
Increasing torso size, maybe bolster armor up.
Could make a shield energy to lessen weight and up MA.
Rideable Kaiser Throne. Big enough for the whole family.
>>1235898
yes
>>1235165
3 fights a batch with skits and small breathers?
>>1236388
That hits all the right notes in my mind, but I enjoy my giant robots too much.. that and farming.
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>>1236446
>yes
Follow up, put Rim or Glacies as support?
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>>1236452
Glacies should be stuck somewhere because she regens spirit points if I recall. She's also got a bunch of support skills. Rim should be on fort gigas though to help boost it directly.
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>when the avalonians go to the lizard people gene-modded planet
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>>1236516
>when the Jovians arrive soon after to beat the greenies back to Avalon
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>>1236536
Thats not how you say, 'Amos takes a vacation'.
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>>1236374
Sooo, basically if I wanted to, I could attune myself as a Lightning-based Sorceror and temporarily turn myself into a Lightning Elemental and rekt face?
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>>1236516
>"Tabitha..."
>"Yes, Your Grace?"
>"Get the sunlamps and bags of crickets."

>>1236586

Temporarily attune? It would mean you can use the flight and lightning bolt and weather change spells instead of NOT being able to use them. You'd have to cast the temporary attunement spell, then the spell you actually want to cast.
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>>1236398
Thanks for the feedback. If it kept the Heavy Striker Armor, would it be closer to a Morgan-II? Or do Morgan-II's have Mediumweight Armor as well?

Honestly, this mech is intended as more of a shock trooper equivalent than an officer mech but it's good to know what you think.
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>>1236288
Command Armour would make us tougher and give more spaces for even more upgrades.
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>>1236446

>Rideable Kaiser Throne. Big enough for the whole family.

That could be pretty interesting. A mecharider that could carry the Kaiser to and from the battlefield. While you are at it, you might also equip it with with weapons and systems to support it, Stuff like anti-beam chaff missiles, an AMS, possibly some ECM to counter long ranged snipers (by tuning down their sensors) or missiles. We could even make it transform into a fighter, to let it picck up people and carry them away from danger on the battlefield.
And of course we are going to dress it up as the most ornate, overdesigned throne Karen can think of, because why the hell not? If we want to be the emperor of the belt, we might as well look the part.

>>1236586
The point is, as far as i can tell from my first reading and Wong's explanation, that you can either be a normal human, and you can cast all spells, but the really big and powerful/useful spells require you to do a little song and dance first before you can use them.
Or, you can attune yourself to a specific school of magic, turn yourself into something a little different (or a lot different) from a human, and get to use al spells in that school without worrying about attunement, but at the cost of not being able to use other magic.

The upside to the last one is partially in the fact that you don't need to attune to even the biggest magic, and partially in that you don't need to spend points on diversifying magic anyway, so you can go and be good at something else (like Wong's firedancer swordsmaster (swordsmistress?))
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>>1236880
Just got to make sure someone other than roarke is piloting it if you want to put fancy weapons on it. Roarke probably coudnt hit the side of a barn with a missile if he was standing inside it.
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>>1236912
>Just got to make sure someone other than roarke is piloting it if you want to put fancy weapons on it. Roarke probably coudnt hit the side of a barn with a missile if he was standing inside it.

Well obviously. Plus, a pilot for the waverider gives you more actions per turn to use, which is always good. With Roarke on top flying the thing, the pilot can devote their attention to using their ECM or weapons. And we're a pirate admiral, it should not be hard to find us a chauffeur.
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>>1235165
>Libra x Wraith as the opening act
I'm not sure if I should be giddy with excitement or absolutely terrified
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>>1236959
A chauffeur, you say?

I can think of some.
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>>1237155
Question, are the two loadouts in your pastebin the only ones?
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Have some match pictures while the thread sinks and I have image space for them. That way Wong can use them next thread!
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>>1237756
Course we need our first match up as well.
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>>1236288
Light Heavy Frame for more spaces, and more powerful kicks.
Specialized drones such as disrupter.
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I had to really look for pictures of these two, but heres the buddy vs loggerhead.
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>>1237873
And here is match number 4. It will likely be quick.
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>>1237938
Next up, fight 5, a fight that is for the birds.
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>>1238207
Is that Mister Bushido?
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>>1238283
Seems like. Pilot of the Gyrfalcon.
Next versus picture is up. Sorry for the quality, but paint is all I have and if I try to finagle each of these, I'd not make it in time.
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>>1238296
Microsoft paint or like paint.NET?
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>>1238307
Microsoft paint. Next match pic up.
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>>1238369
Paint.net's layering feature would make something like this much easier. You should check it out when you get the chance.
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>>1238406
For real. Its free too.
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>>1238406
Bit too late. Pretty much done since I cannot remember the Chimera's and fiddler's pilots and I assume the pumpkinseed II is Revy vs Skunk.
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>>1238486
The Fiddler is piloted by Luca. (AKA, Mika, from Seraph of the End)
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>>1238486
And I forgot the next picture.
>>1238494
Alright. If I recall our favorite scavy is the Chimera's pilot too. I'll get to work.
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>>1238486
I think the chimera is implied to be the scavie guy.
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>>1238494
Well here is the next one. One more to go.
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>>1238588
And done. That is all of them aside from the mooks.
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>>1236398
>Frankly I should just give regular Pumpkinseed IIs 6K single-shot beam rifles because the 3K popguns are pathetic.

Here you go:

Did Bucephalus or Bahamut ever actually build stronger mass-produced beam guns before the Gaunt Special or the Iskander Rifles?
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>>1237756

What's incredibly ironic is that the blue one works for the red countess and the red one works for the blue countess unless I'm misremembering.
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>>1239167

Bucephalus did, they focus more on a ranged combat doctrine.

This, by the way, is the pilot of No Count, the not-Revy NPC mook. I might change his mech's name at some point.
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>>1239335
oh god whats the space equivalent of a cliff to kick you off of? I expect some knockback or kick shenanigans... hell theres even a kick maneuver specifically for pushing people back...
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>>1239335
Huh. What kind of beam guns did Bucephalus make?
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>>1239539
Those are the Bahamut guns.
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>>1239282
Yup, I was thinking that exactly while putting them together. They aren't all uniform, but I tried to get them to have similar styles or emotions(though for Maxwell and Mai, I had to use what was at hand.)
>>1239335
>>1239374
You know, makes me wonder if tackle and the fancy kicks get bonuses with high accuracy hands and feet. Tackle specifically mentioned because the text said it required arms. I am picturing a sort of eternal bullying going on until they eject.
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>>1238296
Pretty neat mate. Although this pic might fit the style a bit more.
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>>1239640
I originally tried that, but most pics for that were pretty big so it made the picture one of a grainy granny. Some I had to clip bits off of, some I had to shave until they were about equal.
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>>1239389
They are the ones who made the artillery Garrons, so probably pretty good ones.
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>>1239721
Trying to remember what Garrons look like. I assume something like a barralion?
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>>1239886
I don't think it was ever stated.

same for the shetlands.
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>>1239661
Hmm, maybe this one then?
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>>1239913
Maybe for the next round. There will be plenty of chances when you win.
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>>1239913
Doesn't even make her look old.
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By the way, I stated this earlier and here I am restating it. The arena itself is an orbiting superstructure around Auditorium made from damaged starship parts and lined with shielded viewing pods. That way, anyone who decides to open fire on the colony risks killing their own.

>>1239886

Barralion is actually entirely correct.
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>>1240012
So how big will it be? A Kilometer? two?
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>>1240012
Nice. The Lion series needs love honestly. Might make a Armorlion or Garlion when the next two days calm down.
As for the arena, How thick is the floor?
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>>1239991
Fair enough.

>>1240001
If you can find a pic of her without the hood where she doesn't look young, I'll be impressed.
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>>1240133
It's actually her face. Incredibly smooth, no wrinkling or anything. No smile lines or crow's feet.
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>>1240156
I know. The thing is, all the pics of Ana without her hood are when she was in her thirties and still had both eyes. That's the only pic I could find that has her looking anywhere older, and that's because of the hair.
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>>1240156
>>1240166

Wait, nevermind. Found something pretty good.

Inari and her youngest daughter.
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>>1240032

Given that colonies are several kilometers long, yes. It's big enough that I could use a different hex map for each fight and might indeed do so.
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>>1240039

You mean Auditorium's hull? Too thick for your weapons to get through. S-Slayer in its first appearance had a bunch of truly intense demolition mines and Auditorium has been armored up since then.
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>>1240507
I meant the arena floor there since it's not auditorium itself and is made from salvaged ship bits. Like someone suplexing someone hard enough that their mech's head pops through the other side, or missiles making holes. Good to know Auditorium is armored up though. Considering who's coming over for tea, this is going to be full of mecha shenanigans.
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>>1240518

Oh, that varies. Mostly, it's starship hull, which is generally too thick to puncture (when a mech hurts a ship it's generally either because it has some fuckoff megabeam monster weapon or it got a megacrit and hit something sensitive), but some parts are decking or interior wall instead and might be destructible.
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Okay.... I'm Reeeeeeeeeeeeeally sorry, but a lot of things happened and I was exhausted on sunday and yesterday was a somewhat bad day... I still have some things to get rid of... But at least I won't have classes today so I should be able to focus on the math for your mechs at this moment.

I'm going to start searching the thread for pastebins, but feel free to send them again if you want.

Beggining with the Chimera.

>>1237756
I don't know why solaire likes to wear blue, but Victor is some sort of "Black Knight" as his mech gets cloaked in flames and goes dark at the begining of each fight... That should cause some impression on other Avalonians.

>>1235657
I'M YOUR FAN!

>>1235165
Why don't you use that Officer Roc that we commented about some threads ago? It should job anyway, but at least could be a good fluffwise choice.

http://pastebin.com/74QzpTVN

>>1232373
Thanks!
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>>1241044
Dude, real life always takes priority over internet bullshit. don't feel like you need to rush or push yourself into doing that.
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>>1241044
Were the pilot not Patches and Patrick Colasour not a potential roarkespawn I would suggest Colasour the Indestructible show in this as the mook, especially since the guy is going to get wrecked automatically anyway.
http://pastebin.com/gv2DgEFT

Poor patches though. Hes really not that bad once you survive the multiple assassination attempts.
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>>1241169
I would also like to submit my Tsugumori piloted by Not!Izana(because best girl/boy), but I already have 3 mechs in this tourney and I don't really have any cool story for her...

Medium Weight Torso: C/S/K 12, 6 tons.
Heavy Striker Head: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons.
Light Heavy L. Arm: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons.
Light Heavy R. Arm: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons.
Right Hand: Cost 2, Space 1, Damage 1K, Kills 1, 0.5 tons
Left Hand: Cost 2, Space 1, Damage 1K, Kills 1, 0.5 tons
Heavy Striker L. Leg: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons.
Heavy Striker R. Leg: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons.
Total:49CP, 21.5tons.

Armor: Medium Striker (4 SP, 4 CP, 2 tons) in all servos.
Total:24CP, 12tons.

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton, 7km sensor range, 1300km comm range
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton, 1 km sensor range, 300km comm range

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Torso Storage Module (1 CP, 1 Space), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Stereo System (0.1 CP), Anti-Theft Code Lock(0.4 CP).
(10CP, 2 tons)

83CP and 35.5 tons.

[Handheld] Lance: WA +2, 8K(+2), 16 CP, Armour Piercing, 16 Spaces, 4 tons.
[Head-Mounted] Beam Cannon: Max range 3.2KM, WA -1(Long Ranged), Fragile, 4K(Only one Structural Kill), 10 CP, 4 Spaces, 0.5 tons.

Weight: 40 tons as base (39.5 after 1 CP spent on Weight Efficiency).

Verniers: 14CP, 5 Spaces, 3 in the torso and 1 in each leg.
Thrusters & Speed: 4 in torso, 4 in each leg. Moves 400m in a turn, run 250m, 12CP.
(External Mount) Booster Pack: 40 MA Points, Max Boost 40, 4 CP, 2 K, 1 Ton
MV: -2
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>>1241185
That show really went to shit once the made the special bullets.
Also the hermaphrodite people dont seem to serve any purpose other than to appeal to a fetish.
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>>1241185
Also dont think I didn't notice you made that Roc custom as well
Its much the same as a regular Roc anyway isnt it?
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>>1239335
>No Count
Nice.

Will he panic and try to surrender if pressured?
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>>1241205
Aww shit I forgot From made Armored Core as well. Armored Souls fucking when?
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>>1241185
Hmmm... Looking at it now, it gives me the impression of being something like a more mook version of the Lightning, but more inspired in the K-Swordfish and following the new trend of bigger and heavier frames...

>>1241193
Did you read the manga? Yeah it changes a lot through the plot, but this sort of changes ends ups being necessary to step up the stakes and allow the combates to evolve in full scale war against hordes of gauna and so on.... It really becomes less grim dark as they get more hope of not living forever stuck on that crap state, but people continue to die a LOT and the death counts ends up going up as there is more people outside fighting by the end of it.

About Izana... It seems that there is alot of genemodding shit and IA experiments going on the background as the imortal council was trying to find new ways of dealing with the population problems, but it really don't get much explored by the author as it isn't the focus of the story... And about it being a fetish... I don't really think so, or he would keep her in that intersex state for the rest of the plot just for otaku pandering... Its more like it was an element to add to the bizzareness of Sidonia and the levels of bullshit the Imortals were okay of doing in their hubris of being above any restriction of ethics if it were needed to make their survival more probable.

They're a lot like the CUSS in fact, there is even a scene where they almost decide to just ditch everyone and use their lives as a distraction to secure their escape... The Pink haired girls, intersex people, human like robots, half-gauna and the other crazyness of the plot is just them not giving a single fuck to bio-ethics and doing whatever they find usefull at the time.

Also, Izana being the best girl is more due the others being worse overall... But Tsumugi was cool too, even if I find her much more magical realm than Izana.

>>1241202
Nope, the normal Roc is a Bluegill with Harpy wings, a head mount, and transformative capabilities.
The Officer version ditch the wings for bigger and more potent thursters(That looks like the old wings because of being armored), and use stronger weaponry while also being lighter(MV-2 while the mook version is at MV-3).

It still quite vulnerable for a 140CP mech, but thats is due its nature of being used for "hit and run" and being on Pumpkinseed level of CP if you ignore the Jet-form(But it can still roll better than UJCIDF mechs and wreck a Pumpkinseed I or II in two hits.)
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>>1241185
>but I already have 3 mechs in this tourney
You know what, no, this is wrong, the Excalibur and the Templar would have not happened if it wasn't for Solaire and Avalonanon, I can't really take credit by their work and influence on the designs.

Also, Thank you guys for listening to my crazy ideas, it was a honor to create something together with you two.
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>>1241205
You know, I wonder if there is a Patch in King's Bounty. Feels like he's been pretty consistent in every game he's been in.
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>>1241044
>I'M YOUR FAN!
That's kinda sad.
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>>1240615
Alright. I will keep that in mind. In return, have this tidbit. With a shock shield set for melee, you can theoretically have a mech be able to ram WITHOUT taking damage and do even more thanks to it. Well, you can do the same with a normal reactive shield, but still, helps with my Guarlion idea. Regular lion has wing legs, built in weapons, and both thrusters and pods by the looks of it. Seems like it would be a crazy dragster when put into practice.
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>>1241759
Really you should just be able to ram without damage with regular shields. Or just normally, plenty of rugby/american football players manage to ram stuff every day without also taking themselves out.
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>>1241772
Regular rugby players don't pilot multi-ton giant robots going hundreds of meters in 10 seconds. I consider Ramming more akin to trains hitting each other than foot ball players.
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>>1241780
By that logic dropkicks should wreck your legs.
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>>1241772
Yeah, with the ram rules as they are, there's no reason to ever do a ram over a dropkick.
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>>1241794
>there's no reason to ever do a ram over a dropkick
No legs.
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>>1241794
Dropkicks are less accurate which is fair.
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>>1241783

Well, legs at least have the excuse that they are designed to carry all the weight of that multi-ton robot, and meant to be able to take an impact from it falling or jumping. They are natural shock absorbers, whereas torso's... aren't.
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>>1241805
Tell that to tanks.
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>>1234751
Okay, it is mostly done.

First, Please put the normal damage of your EMW and then the final dmg, like "5K(6K)" or "5K(+1)" or "5K(+1 From DMG bonus)", because of the EMW parry rules.

Second, Your AMS is 0.3 over the normal price, it should be 3.5CP and you "A.R.C." Shoulde cost 25.87CP.

Third, Final price should be 139.67CP...

Do you want a suggestion? Make your Hands 1.5CP, but Damage Control Package or Design and Decor and a Spotlight.

Or you can just correct the price and leave it as it already is.

Now... Libra and Wraith...

*SIGH*

Seriously, Libra-anon, I'm somewhat angry at you and Pharcyde for changing things even after saying that they are at their final forms, it not a seriously offense, but I was kind of trusting that I wouldn't have to change your mechs again and could focus on the others... But you two are making me coming back to it again.

Please, if you aren't done with it, just say so.
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>>1241664
NEW THREAD OUTTA KNOWHERE OH MAH GAWD
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>>1241877
The only changes I made to the Libra is i dropped one HE and the scattershot rounds for a 10 burst clip of ap ammo, and when I rebuilt the sniper i showed all the steps for your convenience.

Nobody is forcing you to do this
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>>1241936
I know, but I have a certain level of autism to maintain... And I already began with this, so I should go to the end with it.
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what the fuck is all this




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