>>1179282
Alright: First, the remaining rules kerfuffles.
How to quick linked feet interact with the various feet based moves.
Additionally, how do the Valkyrie's layered defenses interact with each other? And does breaking Line of sight "refresh" the shadows for an individual opponent?

KESTRALS! KESTRALS! KESTRALS!

>>1179282
Right then. Basics I can see are 'how will the brackets be set up', 'how the ring will be set up', 'How will we handle matches with 1 person in them'.

>>1179282
Hell yeah, its time for this awesome quest!

>>1179282
Tournament bracket when Wong?
I love tournament brackets.

>>1179282
I have a question Wong. Can we make a projectile weapon loudout and give it the option of several different ammo options, or would that be a loophole for the 4 loadouts max rule?

>>1179299
Kestrels BANZAI! BANZAI!

Anywho, I remember talk about some scenario ideas as possible banter between matches, so here's a few ideas.
>Generalists vs Specialists, the debate rages on.
>Talking about family, children, grand children, and orphans.
>Who foots the bar bill
>Those wacky non martian or jovian religions
>Whats a anime?

>>1179746
the winner should be the one to cover that bill

>>1179884
Woah there. Considering the group who'd be drinking, the bill would likely be more than the prize.

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>>1179884
>"I WIN AGAIN!"

>>1179931
then the first round after the finals should be on them

>>1179945
>LET THIS BE OUR FINAL BATTLE!

>>1179970
>This 「CHIKARA」!... Even me, the 「SCARLET WITCH」 can't be sure of my victory over this trial...!

I'll post that update list here again, sorry for doing nothing yesterday, I was occupied until almost midnight and then the thread vanished '-'.

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>>1179970
>This 「CHIKARA」!... Even me, the 「SCARLET WITCH」 can't be sure of my victory over this trial...!

I'll post that update list here again, sorry for doing nothing yesterday, I was occupied until almost midnight and then the thread vanished '-'.
>forgot pic

>>1179746
>implying that I won't get everyone drunk before their fights.

>>1179746
You know what would be dramatic? If Akai's mom saw her on the TV because of the tourney and went there to find her missing daughter.
I wonder how Oda would react to that...

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>>1179282
Oh hey, cool. Glad Brazil suggested to do this.

>>1180190
I'm 90% sure I'm not going to change the first three loadouts on the Blitz any more. Again, sorry for just dropping this on you.
http://pastebin.com/1UM8a7SM
Now I need to figure out how to make a servo mounted projectile weapon not utter garbage.
Or I'll give up because that's nigh on impossible.

>>1180531
Perfect

>>1180047
Would require all the fighters to drink though.
>>1180190
Might not want to push it too far for her. There is a reason why I picked generic sounding ideas. No one gets a edge, each character gets a chance to shine. Wong is the one who's going to write them after all and I'd rather it remains open.

>>1180574
I now, I'm just suggesting ideas for fun, not really expecting that to happen.

>>1180531
Man... You know what, just take your time, I'm going to go through many people before you anyway.

>>1180650
That's why I said I might just give up, then if there's no 4th loadout when you get to it then you'll know there won't be one.

>>1180737
How many loadouts can we have anyway?

>>1180797
Four.

>>1180802
Oh shit. Time for last minute changes..

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>>1180818

why are people going so crazy for loadouts?

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>>1180841
VALKYRE
Hmmmm... Why would they do this?

>>1180841
I only had one, then somebody else made some for me but they were a tiny bit to expensive, then I made one based of of one he made both to thank him for doing it and because I never thought to do it myself and felt dumb for not doing so then made a joke melee loadout when Brazil said something about melee mechs.

>>1180868
Not gonna lie BR, I'm strongly considering adding a missile spam Loadout to the Myrmidon.

>>1180841
Mine always had 2 but since we can go to 4 I might as well make more and give some options to the future grunts. My dude is only going to use one anyway regardless of who he fights.

>>1180877
stop. down that path lies MADNESS!

>>1180868
I think making a loadout just for super specialized mech nobody else is ever going to use doesn't make sense for pretty much any character (especially because the weapons for the Blitz costs nearly as much as the frame, armor, sensors, and options combined) and is really poor form.
I mean, a mech that specializes in defense and melee beats a mech that is incapable of any melee other than ramming. It's not a surprise.

>>1180841
Because certain Mechs are incredibly hard to kill if you aren't properly equipped. The Valkyrie is a big example since the means to get past it's layers of defenses are esoteric or usually passed up. The bird mechs also have this issue along side the tank. You have no idea how much I want to make a paint bomb that would give me 15 to awareness.

>>1180912
>a super specialized mech nobody else is ever going to use
a super specialized KIND OF mech nobody else is ever going to use

>>1180905
I've designed all my Mechs on my phone. I've been mad for a while.

>>1180946
you poor man

>>1180841
I used to have a shitton, but managed to bring them down to two while also making my mech more versatile.

The Libra still has the critical weakness in the right arm, but it can always grab the gun in it's left if/when the right gets lopped off. I'm just hoping my my parry rolls are on point.

>>1180915
>Everyone make counter loadouts for other people loadouts.
>...Then they realize that as everyone as counter loadout to everyone else, you can't predict anymore what your enemy will use.
>Now no one can really counter everything.

>>1180990
i was very tempted to make a horse mecharider for my Templar during the early design stages

>>1181014
yeah. i didn't want to play that way, it just sucked the fun out of this event for me

>>1181017
I think that you and Solaire could make alternative lances... But do you really care about that?

>>1181029
if there was a story reason for not making alternate loadouts it's because he had to find a way to procure and install his betta armour

Also, BR, please remove whatever that "first impression" thing is from the bottom of the pastebin with all the m'ladies. I make changes to some of them, and others are getting their own intros where I'll fit them in my own way.

>>1181014
We've got people from /tg/ so naturally people are going to sperg and minmax shit.

The only real 'counters' I made were the bayonet which I made stronger to better parry attacks, and the SPIGOT which honestly I made more to counter Pumpkinseed II's and their missiles than anything from the tourney.

>>1181051
Yes sir.

>>1181046
You don't really need a reason for it, also, I think that it could be somewhat strange for a Knight to really worry about that sort of thing, as their Knights seems like an extension of their Chilvary.

If you have two liked melee thrown weapons can you throw them both on the same turn? Also if you have a quick returning weapon can you throw it twice?

>>1181054
the only counter measure I added was the phalanx cannon in my mech's mouth to help with missiles

>>1181014
Ehhh, I think for some it may become a case of 'equal' matches where they pick their best options. Honestly, the Dutchman load outs have been mostly the same since I first made them. While I have refined it, the cracker's duty has always remained the same as well.

>>1181014
Eh, the Myrmidon only has two real loadouts: one for sniping and one for close combat. Its first Loadout is for non-tourney use and I removed the original missile Loadout a while ago.

>>1181014
The Chimera has been a single loadout and will stay as such. The bigger question for me is if that short sword is actually worth its points, or could they be better invested somewhere else.

>>1181076
http://pastebin.com/prMc5BLC
Think this is about right. Might be full of shit since its pretty late but the new loadouts are only there for grunts who want to go full melee or full ranged.

>>1181051
And as they come to me here are some more intermission ideas.
>Myths and Rumors of the Black Ogre
>Who is Roarke's best girl?
>Kids shouldn't be drinking that! You need a silly straw!
>Bluegill Joe Classic championship(with guest appearance of Mr Checkers himself.)

Well I made a sniper cannon for my tank and was wondering if 35 total shots would be enough and ,if it is, how I would spend 27.5 on ammo with a base cost of .2 CP? All I can think of is a lot of AP.

>>1181891
That would be 27.5 CP

>>1181845
>>Myths and Rumors of the Black Ogre
I really want this

>>1181083
A quick thrown weapon hits twice in one throw (think boomerang hitting going out and coming back or a weapon with 2 blades being thrown and both blades hitting the target)

as for linked weapons... are they on the same arm? I mean if you did an inter servo link for throwing weapons in different hands i could see you throwing both but I think we'd have to ask wong about other circumstances

>>1181891
>>1181899
AP and Disruptor rounds for more heavily-armored targets; Tracer rounds for low-armor, high MV targets; a Blast round or three to counter Shadow Imagers; a handful of Shock Only rounds for when you need to buy yourself time or when you meet a unit whose armor you absolutely cannot penetrate.

>>1181891
35 should be way more than enough for a single shot at a time cannon, and with 27.5 cp to work with... you could throw on the blast modifer so the shot has an aoe when it hits or you could... put on scatter shot so it hits every servo at once... sniper shotgun...

>>1181960
Another thing about Tracers is that they also increase your chance at getting a critical and megacrit since they're determined by how much you beat the defenders roll. So Tracers are fucking great for Burst and high accuracy weapons.

>>1181965
ahahaha! you could get a few rounds of scatter shot incendiary rounds, aka Thermite Flamethrower rounds, you'll hit every servo and then they'll take burn damage to every servo for turns afterward!

>>1181014
I only have one loadout with almost everything I could want except for a shield... but giving a bird a shield would be silly and heavy, at least I have decent hp bulk to compensate.

>>1182004
While those would be terrifying, they would also cost 4 CP per round.

>>1182031
thats why you only have like 3 of them to particularly fuck some nasty elite mech, then the rest is AP, disruptor, tracer or blast. though... loading different shots might be an issue if the cannon in question doesn't have multi feed.

The Annihilater Range 350m, WA +0, 5k, 10 Rounds Burst Ammo, BV 8, 36 CP
Meet the single most ridiculous weapon I've ever made. It can land 16 5k attacks per turn, and you can't dodge them. Unless they have a beam shield, the skill of the enemy pilot is literally irrelevant to the situation.

>>1182031
So does this seem good?

Tracer: 2 Clips, 6 CP
AP: 2 Clips, 8 CP
Disruptor: 2 Clips, 8 CP
Scattershot: 1 Clip, 5 CP (for the laughs)

Probably should have said that this isn't for the tourney, this >>1181495 just gave me the idea to make another option for it to have after the tournament.

>>1182124
As per ATM page 40:
>Should a Burst of Blast Radius shells miss then each shell deviates by a number of hexes equal to the difference between the actual die roll and the number required to hit with each particular shell (similar to missing with a salvo of Blast Missiles).

So your target can indeed dodge them.

>>1182158
I would personally suggest less Disruptor rounds, at least until Beam Shields and Reactive Shields become more prevalent in the setting, but do whatever you feel fits best.

>>1182124
Not exactly. Burst and blast weapons deviate depending on how far the target is or by how much you miss. Sooo say you aim at an area and succeed by 3. 3 will hit the spot, the rest will either miss or deviate. Aiming them at someone and missing them can cause the shots to deviate even more. In fact, if you are unlucky it will land on you and you take damage.

>>1182184
More AP then. I thought 2 might have been too many anyway.

>>1182188
Yeah, but the DC for an area is equal to the distance from the person shooting in hexes (this is errata). The maximum combat range for the Anhilator is 7. Assuming shooting at max combat range, and with an A class crew in a MV -3 mecha, the DC would be 7, and the minimum roll would be 14.

>>1182184
Actually, can a servo mounted gun still reload if its ammo is stored in another servo?

>>1182124
>It can land 16 5k attacks
"Can" being the operative word. Seems like this is contingent on beating the opponent's dodge roll by 8.

>>1182289
As >>1182207 Mentioned, you'd be making indirect attacks that don't allow a dodge roll. A reactive shield trivializes the attack, as does Gamma armor and a Beam shield is a damn good defense, but anything else is just gets shredded. That's why its stupid, if you have the right counter it doesn't work at all, but if you don't you're screwed regardless of your statline.

>>1182207
I see that nowhere in the Errata. The base DC is 10. The medium range you are talking about is 20. So for a A class crew to hit at that range it requires a 7. that is for the first of 8 bursts. Each successive burst is down by 1.

>>1182326
>Area-Effect Weapons & Indirect Fire: The difficulties are way too high. Difficulty should actually be equal to distance in Hexes, with a Deviation of 1 per 3 by which the Difficulty was missed. OR Difficulty is just plain old 15.

>>1182332
And where is that? You are giving me hear say while laughing about a super weapon with no links to it. Considering the baseline of easy is 10 for everything, going below it makes no sense.

>>1182317
Can't you parry blasts with a DA +0 shield?

>>1182347
https://www.scribd.com/document/246634460/Mekton-Zeta-Errata-v1-1
https://near-zero.obsidianportal.com/wikis/official-rules-errata
Either of these links works, although dealing with Scribid is a pain.
>>1182356
Yes, your shield will also lose 8SP each time you parry unless it is a gamma shield.

>>1182373
Yeah, judging by how it's talking, seems more like 10 is the base and then you add to the difficulty bit by bit.So no, you do not roll a 7. You roll a 17.

>>1182396
Yeah, no
>The difficulties are way too high. Difficulty should actually be equal to distance in Hexes, with a Deviation of 1 per 3 by which the Difficulty was missed.
This is not in any way ambiguous. The initial values are way to high, here is a formula that massively lowers them. If they wanted the difficulty to equal 10+ Hexes instead of hexes they would say so.

>>1182495
except they haven't changed any of the other rules that go with it. Do you know why the rolls are high? Because it take a lot to deviate a shot. To deviate by 2 you need to fail by 3 and you can never deviate pass 4. They never fixed that part, but were A-ok with making something easier than the easiest difficulty for a challenge. The very base for which the simplest tasks are done. Which allows you to get away with that sort of thing with no real effort because as you said, only a energy shield or reactive could handle it.
Even if it's high, throwing something indirectly like a lob shot is not going to be accurate in the first place. In this sort of situation, the errata makes it worse.

>>1182563
>Errata
When considering optional rule adjustments (in a system rife with poorly worded mechanics) it seems like any GM worth a good goddamn would skip one that looked like it made it literally impossible for players to miss. That's just not cricket.

>>1182563
I was up front that what I was doing was a ridiculous exploit that I personally would never allow in a game I run. That doesn't change the fact that my interpretation of the rules is correct, since its nothing more than a plain reading of them.

>>1182633
Considering that while reading they went 'add 1 per hex or d a flat DC15', they were likely saying it the way I was saying with DC 10 being the base since it is the base for everything. As >>1182622 said, making a rule that makes it impossible to miss is pretty bull.

>>1182633
Mekton is so finicky though, plain reading isn't necessarily correct.

Example, technically space efficiency is counted into a weapon's cost, and ammo cost is determined by weapon cost. Using this completely straight interpretation of the rules as written when making a projectile weapon, it would mean that since space efficiency adds cost, and ammo space is determined BY cost, making the weapon more space efficient would somehow make it need MORE space. This is *perverse*.

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Thank the Lady I haven't missed anything except some discussion on banter between matches.

>>1182690
>making the weapon more space efficient would somehow make it need MORE space. This is *perverse*.

I just figured the ammo box needed an extra mechanism to fit the ammo into the smaller gun and thats where the extra ammo space came from.

>>1182704
Real thread will be be next Monday. This is just finalizing Tourney mechs.

>>1182704
well this is a discussion thread, theres no plot till the monday after next (not tomorrow). so we've got a week to discuss and hammer out tournament stuff one last time. or discuss vingettes and scenes we'd like to see

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>>1182717
>>1182723
Oh good, I'll lurk then unless I have an opinion to voice.
Or someone asks me something but I doubt that will happen.

>>1182723
Also the sort of thread we can plan out what to do about Fairchild and the like. The auction in general is going to be important in selling ourselves and not giving Fairchild the chance to screw us over.

>>1182708
I wasn't even talking about it from a fluff perspective. If you were building a gun that way, instead of doing it in a nice simple sequence you would essentially have to work from both ends at once to reach the middle, since determining ammo cost changes the space cost, and determining space cost changes the ammo cost.

You alter the outcome by measuring it, projectile ammo rules are so byzantine that they stray into quantum.

Or you could just rule that space efficiency is factored in after ammo like anyone who still has a brain left after trying to figure this shit out would do.

>>1182744
aye that to.
never been to good with the political maneuvering stuff myself though.

>>1182744
With what happened on Qu'lir, Fairchild doesn't even really need to show up since she already has her own captured paladin to crucify.

>>1182731
What's it like worshiping a god that only sees you as a disposable pawn?

>>1182755
iirc when I tried making projectile guns i did ammo last after space efficiency... that might explain the headache... though for the most part i figured the gun came loaded with basic ammo and then made clips of special stuff that it could switch to...

eh... confusing indeed.

>>1182761
As was mentioned before Duchess has been quiet on secrets and general intel. Even if they fry the old lady, Lori is a easy to interrogate pally who can give intel they need. Weak points, leaders, what each Paladin is capable of. Each is worth a small fortune since intel seems really low in general.
There is also the whole 'well you have nothing we want and you have no allies, so we are going to wipe the belt of pirates now!' which is a very fairchild move.

random question... can submarine mechs fly if I stick enough thrusters on them?
I was considering making a flying fish mech and that'd either be a mechabeast or a submarine mech and mechabeasts can't fly even if you stick a shitton of thrusters on them (which is stupid imo)

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>>1182816
...we really are going the G-Gundam route for this tourney, aren't we?

>>1182816
The ATM says that submarine mechanical can only move on or in water hexes. And yes, the rules are quite stupid about what can and can't fly.

>>1182781
> i did ammo last after space efficiency
And in order to know how *much* space you need to efficiency away, you need to know how much space your ammo takes. And in order to know how much space your ammo takes, you need to know how much the weapon cost...which will require you to know how much space you need to efficiency away! And *that* is why we need Eddie Van Halen!

>i figured the gun came loaded with basic ammo
Nope! A projectile weapon takes up its own space + the space of the one magazine it's loaded with (unless you have multi-feed, in which cast it's the space of multiple magazines). You need to work out the size of a magazine (which will be the same regardless of ammo type, though can be as large as you want) before you can know the weapon's space. The sensible way to do this is to just use base cost before space efficiency, which I'm pretty sure off the top of my head is how Wong does it.

>>1182816
actually... I think i'd have to make it an "avian" mecha beast to make a flying fish mech as submarine mechs can only operate on or under water...
Guess it'd just be a fish with big fins for wings

>>1182839
I remember that one, and no I mean full fish mode with no arms or legs, just a head, torso and tail with maybe some wings/fins.
I don't plan to enter it in the tourney, just something for fun. also considering the nasty bite I plan on giving it its more of a shark anyway.

thanks to all of this loadout talk, Loggerhead has a second load out: a different gun!
http://pastebin.com/ZJX8nuZB

also: when the hell are we going to get a real ass spider tank in these threads?

>>1182911
multi legs kinda suck.

that said most practical way to do it would be to use metaform legs that split into more legs, they way you have a tank with 2 big leg servos but it splits into 8 legs

>>1182633

Just for that statement I'm saying you're wrong.

>>1182396

This is how we're doing it.

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Oh, right.

HOY HOY HOY!

IF YOU HAVE PICTURES OF YOUR PILOT OR THEIR MECH, POST THEM IN THIS THREAD, DO NOTE THEIR NAME SO I HAVE THE RIGHT ONES AS I SET UP THAT FOLDER FOR THE TOURNEY!

THESE TITS ARE TO GET YOUR ATTENTION!

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>>1183442
I saved a couple in case you wanted them. Do you want them all?

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>>1183442
Nobody cares about Feddie tits Wong, post glorious Zeon tits

>>1183442
Right, Here is Maxwell C. Hammer and the Dutchman F(lying) type. http://pastebin.com/HEyd93MN

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>>1183484
And I forgot the image once more..

>>1183451

Yes. Be sure to include the NAME, by the way, if it wasn't Mai Uaifu I might not have known what to save your picture as.

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>>1183442
These are going into my wallpaper folder.

I have both pictures of pilot and mech, I can provide them all.

Pilots name is Magnarus
Mechs name is Ulfberht

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>>1183442
The Chimera piloted by Robert Dubois

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>>1183442
>>1183494
For an easier way of getting a hold of them I'll link future pictures to my posts.

Though I can't say I'm a fan of spamming so I'll post a couple of each, not all of them, just the ones that would make most sense to use.

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>>1183489
Oops, sorry.

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LOGGERHEAD IMAGE

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>>1183489

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>>1183518
Last one for Ulfberht, I mean there are some of the back and another where it's using a sword but it won't be using a sword just the lance and the other ones are of just the back which isn't very entertaining.

Makes me wish we had multi-image posting.

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>>1183489
And he's the Blitz.

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LOGGERHEAD PILOT
Daryl Bradley
FINAL BUILD SINCE THE KAWAII LIBRARY IS (PROBABLY) WRONG
http://pastebin.com/ZJX8nuZB

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>>1183528
I'll post one more of Magnarus after this one it should be a fair amount.

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>>1183489
Forgot I saved this one, actually.

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>>1183537
Last one I swear on me mum.

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>>1183442
Here's the Myrmidon.

>>1183536
Oh, that is a good idea.

>>1183489
Since it's going to be a while before Brazil gets to my tank and updates his library, here's the final version of the Blitz.
http://pastebin.com/1UM8a7SM
If you do end up having to check it, first sorry, you can use the one on Brazil's paste if you want, and I'm only going to use the first loadout if you do check it yourself.

>>1183494
>>1183537
>>1183548
come on man we need mugshots not head shots

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>>1183442
>>1183551

And here's the Myrmidon's pilot, Inari Sune.

>>1183524
Got a source on that pic?

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>>1183555
Closest to a mugshot I got

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>>1183442
I had been using this for The M-Sagisters pilot Marciana sparna.

haven't found any good cassowary mechs yet

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>>1183442
>>1183561
Picture without the hood that isn't of her when she's really young.

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>>1183487
And a head shot as well.

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>>1183489
Eh this is the general body shape for the M-Sagister, main differences are a three part head crest made of its missile pods and a sleeker head design. The legs can convert to wings

>>1183566
I fucking wish. found it on Lu Sim's Pinterest if you want to look yourself.

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>>1183442
Alexander Grant and the Libra.

at some point I'll grab an ISO of Z2 and grab some screens from there if I can.

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>>1183442
And here's the official Libra pastebin.

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>>1183613
http://pastebin.com/FVLG56xL

woops

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>>1183601
here are a couple other reference pic for the M-Sagister
and here's its paste-bin
http://pastebin.com/sR0KhwEu

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>>1183617

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>>1183623

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>>1183623
last one for now.

>>1183619
Taking a look at it, you may want to be careful with those legs. Transforming still takes an action and if the talons are clumsy, then it can only kick.. which can't be done during wing mode.

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>>1183442
FFS I MISSED THE TIMING FML! WONG WHY?! TT__TT

ALSO

PILOT: JAMES MCCLINTOCK

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>>1183442
>>1183678
Also, said mech

Update:

Rules:
>No Reactive Shields
>No Space Efficiency on Thursters.
>MV limit is -2(Minimum).
>Weight reduction only reduces MV, the weight continues the same for dropkicks and running speed.
>Ammo weight is abolished.
>Only level 1 verniers are allowed.
>Beta Armor only allowed to Avalonians and maybe Kestrels.
>Completely bog-standard feet that do NOTHING take up no spaces and use corebook stats. Any awesome custom feet need to use spaces.
>Feet can have zero spaces if you use space efficiency enough.


Okay, so checking order:
>Dutch-Senpai and his F-Type.- DONE
>Noblewoman-onee-sama and her M-Sagister- DONE
>Tottalynotaspyanon and his Loggerhead-DONE
>Chuuni-boy and his Gyrfalcon.-NEXT

Other mecha:
>Markedfordeathanon and his Libra.-NEXT
>Chimeranon and his Chimera.-NEXT
>ELO and his SaturnWraith
>Overworkedanon and his Buddy.
>Thunder-Senpai and his Húskarl
>Avalonanon and his Templar
>Mechbay-oba-san and her Myrm
>Battoujutsu-san and his Lightning
>Not!hunk and the Pumpkinseed Jager.
>Katherine-onee-san and the Valkyrie.
>Wyatt and the Pharcyde
>Tank-kouhai and the Blitz-OPEN FOR LOADOUT SUGGESTIONS.
>Solaireanon and his Ulfberht.

I'll Actualize the pastebin and put (FINAL) next to the name of finalized mechs.

>>1182911
.........
Is this the final number of loadouts? Confirm when you are sure about it.
Sorry about the wait, one of my Akitas had babies today... Tomorrow I should be able to get back to work.

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>>1183682
Also, fan art for someone to double check my mech...

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>>1183442
Za Walkure, Akai's mech.

>>1183686
yeah thats the last one.

>>1183702
and I just realized that I forgot to turn off phalanx on my sheet.
let me fix that.

>>1183686
>>1183442

alright here you go

-LOGGERHEAD FINAL BUILD-

http://pastebin.com/4ymwa5eY

REPOSTED BECAUSE ANON IS AN IS BLIND

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>>1183442

Michael Acre, the "Crimson Comet" and pilot of the Gyrfalcon VII.
Former mercenary mecha jock with a speed fetish, now on the run from massive legal fees, after a certain energy drinks company found out this no-name mercenary was using their IP as a nickname.

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>>1183442
here's Victor

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>>1183442
and here's the Templar

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>>1183442
Hunk

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>>1183442
>>1183970
And his sufficiently grunty looking mech.

>>1183442
will never un-notice the upside down mark of slannesh on that officers cap

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>>1183442
Kathrine

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>>1183442
Valkyrie

>>1184099
There's something very lewd about that picture.

Man. This is making me want to play Armored Core again.

>>1184174
I spent an inordinate amount of time trying to recreate the final boss of 4 before I found out you couldnt get its parts.

>>1184135
It's the way the tank top is pulled down. Only the straps are covering her nips.

>>1184178
Best Mech design game.

Also you could even play with your designs once you finished if you wanted to.

>>1184213
I like 4 answer better just because you could boost around exactly like the boss at the end of 4. Stick enough boosters on and a neutral side boost would make you rotate 180 degrees.

Will G Gundam burn up my soul with hot blooded passion?

>>1184237
It's interesting playing through, the 4A mechs were insane compared to the rest of the series. Going to V with the reduced mechs was . . . . difficult lol. Tanks were a threat again! Instead of high-speed twitch combat, cover became super important.

Which was a shame, because I was really a fan of being a Glass Cannon in 4A

>>1184240
Yes.

THIS HAND OF MINE GLOWS WITH AN AWESOME POWER

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>>1183442
>>1183517
Found a better pic for the Chimera. That's what I get for not looking through google images first.

>>1184287
Is this a Mecha for
ANTS?

>>1183677
yup I realize that, thing is I can still fly even out of wing mode, my speed is just lower (I'm not sure how much lower though its either 100m or 400m slower when the legs are deployed depending on whether the avian form 300m bonus is applicable out of wing mode)
so yeah i've got a speedy gunship mode with a much smaller modifier cost basically.

(only reason I went avian was so I could use thrusters to fly since regular mechabeasts can only walk apparently, I don't even really care about the avian bonus, i just made the legs capable of being wings so the mecha could qualify as avian because it technically had wings)

>>1184386
Well, I think in this case you have a sort of 'semi-beast form' going. No pair of wings mean no flight bonus when they are legs, but you could still fly and with your other options you still have a good variety. Of course, you need to make sure not to lose a leg.

Does mounting a missile launcher on a mech's back impose any kind of accuracy penalty?

>>1184666
You'd be mounting it to the torso in either case. Means it would be firing at the front arc.. though the way you are saying it, you want to be able to fire them from the back arc.

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>>1184174
>>1184178
>>1184237
>>1184257
Speaking of, I was driving home last week when I realised that you could totally represent Primal Armorr/Assault Armor with an energy pool, and that led to an attempt to stat out White Glint.

White Glint
Heavy Striker Torso: C/S/K 10, 4 tons.
Heavy Striker Head: C/S/K 5, 2 tons.
Heavy Striker L. Arm: C/S/K 6, 3 tons.
Heavy Striker R. Arm: C/S/K 6, 3 tons.
Heavy Striker L. Leg: C/S/K 6, 3 tons.
Heavy Striker R. Leg: C/S/K 6, 3 tons.
Heavy Striker L. Wing: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons.
Heavy Striker R. Wing: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons.
Total frame: 49 CP, 23 tons

Armour: Heavy striker (40CP, 20 tons)

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton.
Backup sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton

Options: Cockpit (1CP, 1 space), Liftwire (0.3CP), Anti-theft code lock (0.4CP), Torso weapon mountx2(4CP), Interservo cross link (Rifles, 3CP), Quick Change mountx2 (missile launchers, 2CP)

Armament:
Hand (Right arm): 1K(+1), 2CP, 0.5 tons, quick, handy
Hand (Left arm): 1K(+1), 2CP, 0.5 tons, quick, handy

051ANNR Rifle (handheld): Range 650m, 6k, WA+2, BV 2, 10 shots, Range 175%, 22 space reduction(11CP), 6 spaces, Cost 38.9CP, 3 tons
4x10 shot magazine: 9.6CP

063ANAR Assault Rifle (handheld): Range 500m, 4K, WA+1, BV 3, 10 shots, Range 175%, 11 space reduction(5.5CP), 6 spaces, cost 22.1CP, 2 tons
4x10 shot magazine: 6.8CP

Saline05 split missile launcher(Torso mount): Range 650m, 5K, Wa+3, 18 missiles, 8 space reduction(4CP), 10 space, cost 22CP, 6 tons
Saline05 split missile launcher(Torso mount): Range 650m, 5K, Wa+3, 18 missiles, 8 space reduction(4CP), 10 space cost 22CP, 6 tons

Assault OB energy pool (Torso): 30 power, fragile, 0.5 tons, 59 space reduction(29.5CP), 89.5CP
Form 1 'Primal Armour': Ablative reactive shield, 50 kills, x reset time
Form 2 'Assault Armour': Range 150m, 10k, 360 angle, 25% range, clip fed, shots 1
Spare clipx2 (Torso): 2CP, 2 space

Overbost Boosterpack (Wings): 50MA points, +10 max boost, 8CP, 8 spaces (4 per wing), 8 kills, 4 tons

Propulsion: 26.7CP, 27 thrusters (3 in torso, 6 in each leg, 5 in each arm, 1 in each wing), 18(+2)MA

Base cost: 357.3

Multipliers:
Supercharged power plant(x0.3, +2MV, +2 land MA), 107.2CP
ACE (x0.2, pool +100%), 71.5CP
Thought control (x0.5, +2MV, pool +67%, all WA +1), 178.7

38 weight efficiency (76CP)

Speed: 1000m per turn flight (Ma 20), 350m per turn land (Ma 7)
Weight: 39.5 tons (Mv +1, man. pool +167%)
CP: 790.7CP

Sorry Brazil, but I ended up making that missile loadout.

http://pastebin.com/AWxef3UL

It's Loadout 4.

>>1184722
I suppose torso weapon mounts would be the closest thing to shoulder mounts in mekton. A lack of some sort of shoulder mount for big weapons is something that annoys me in mekton.

>>1184998
If you just want a shoulder mounted weapon, weapon mounting the gun would do the job.

>>1185006
It just rankles me that your options for doing it arent that good. Like you either have to use weapon mounts, which are fragile, pods, which are a glaring weakness, or build it directly into the torso, which is guaranteed to need space efficiency. Probably just space efficiency being the root of the problem again. Like compare it to armored core where you have 4 weapons a set of torso gear like flares or something and 2 back ups, or to gundam where everything has like 5 different guns built into it.

>>1185042
you might be able to use command armor for a shoulder mount of sorts. but I think thats was banned for the tourney and possibly for the quest overall...

either way just get some arm command armor and fluff it as a shoulder pauldron mount thing

>>1185042
I mean, this is a tabletop game system, having everything be able to do anything wouldn't make for interesting gameplay or mech builds. That said, you CAN do all of that if you want, it'll just be expensive. If you want it to be cheap, you have to make a Zaku, not a Sazabi.

>>1185050
WG isn't a Mook Core though, more of a Special Weapon.

>>1185042
I think the fragility of weapon mounts may be somewhat overstated. Aren't they only going to get hit on freak critical results anyway? And torso mounts are pretty great because they let you pack in a whole additional torso's worth of gear, and you can have two of them. I wouldn't say pods are a glaring weakness either, it depends on how well you armour them.

>space efficiency being the root of the problem
It's pretty clear that the ATM rules were written with the intent that space efficiency would be a fact of life, and the fact that you get 2 space for 1CP means that it's not actually all that expensive.

>>1185057
It also depends what equipment you actually use. Custom (i.e. good) stuff will usually take up lots of space, but the default equipment from the rulebook isn't all that space intensive, and you can have all the handheld weapons you can carry.

>I'm now 23 threads behind
Fuck, where did the time go?

>>1185057
A zaku could have a heat axe, a shield, 1-2 guns, grenades and 2 sets of leg missiles. And thats like the cheapest thing in the setting bar the ball.

>>1185082
>A zaku could have a heat axe, a shield, 1-2 guns, grenades and 2 sets of leg missiles
Handheld, 1 space, handheld, weapon mounts. I saw a Zaku statted somewhere and it was like 90CP.

>>1185070
>Aren't they only going to get hit on freak critical results anyway?
You can call them on a shot, but those are either at -4 or -5 to hit. Can't remember which.

>and you can have two of them
Can you tell me where that is? All I remember a torso being limited to two of is shields.

>>1185082
Regular Zakus had a Heat Hawk, one gun and its shield. That's Pumpkinseed levels of equipment there.

>>1185079
Vietnyam happened

>>1185093
>Can you tell me where that is?
Weapon mount rules.

>Torsos may have two weapon mounts, other locations may only have one.

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>>1185131
Thanks.

>>1185070
Pod space costs the same as space efficiency, before armor. Thus it's litterally always inferior unless your GM restricts space efficency somehow.

>>1185088
>>1185093
Thats not even counting the stuff like desert zakus or cannon zakus which are also not that high tech.

>>1185170
Give me time and I'll work on Dutchman models for those too.

In other news, I finally beat SRW Z3.2. Liked the ending, but goddamn did that series go to shit real fucking fast when they decided to let the C-team do 90% of the animations.

Fucking Alpha Gaiden had better attack animations than some of the units in this game. What a fucking dissapointment.

>>1185409
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8qtnRtU2YM

Uhhhhhhhh WTF is this.

>>1185409
If we're talking about off topic stuff, I made a tank with a shadow imager (it's meh) and what could probably pass for a chevalier with a WA 2, 12K Quick, AP halberd and a cape that functions as wings.

And in other, even more off topic news, I've decided that while For Honor is a good game with amazing gameplay when it works well, the combination of all multiplayer being peer-to-peer and the always online bullshit makes it very, very hard to find those games that work well.

>>1185426
Standard final boss for a SRW trilogy game. Bigger than the usual mind you.

>>1185429
I really want to try For Honor. Pity games these days are so expensive.

>>1185426
>>1185456
Looks a bit like the winged dragon of ra.

>>1185458
Had I not impulse bought it to distract from having to euthanize my dog and bothered to figure out they added always online on top of peer-to-peer (I had assumed they couldn't possibly be that blatantly greedy) I would have never bought it.

It's 2017 now and it was inexcusable to disenfranchise your entire paying fanbase with always online 4 years ago. Doing it now, on top of trying to spin being a cheap pile of shit and not having dedicated servers along with it is the scummiest thing I have ever seen a video game company do.

>>1185466
The final boss for Z2 is pretty much worse time line Super Roarke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdrZkJonpG8 His first form is him just relaxing on his demon throne.

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>>1185510
>I had assumed they couldn't possibly be that blatantly greedy
>ubisofts face when
>>1185520
I just now noticed there is a VOTOM in the middle of all those superbeast mechs. That dude has stones.

>>1184998

I've fluffed shoulder-mounted weapons as arm-mounted, torso-mounted, or head-mounted depending on what was most convenient.

Jseus Christ the VOTOM guy did as much damage as the super robots.

>>1185560
Well, there are also code gease frames in there as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rESbNbWI6CA This is his first form. Notice how his best attack is simply holding you down, getting off his throne, and socking you once.Hell, in the first Z2 game, he's not even fighting you properly unless you say you want a real fight for your reason for being there.

>>1185571
So, can torso weapon mounts be pointed in any direction then?

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how would you stat sub arms?

>>1185976
Torso-mounted linked weapons.

Sorry, for the ausence guys, kinda occupied with something here, I will actualize everything when I go through those NEXT mechas.

>>1185560
>>1185597
Chirico is straight up one of the best pilots in Z2 and Z3. If you let his HP go into the red he becomes God.

And if you want an example of why I say Z3 is disappointing animation wise, look no further than the Full Metal Panic units.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtQK91bsPCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIviItxa8tc

And last but most certainly least;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW1r9gweBNQ

what a goddamn travesty.

>>1186041
It suffered the issue most late series SRW games deal with; Pilot bloat. Then they try and have every mech follow it's own sort of design so they feel weird when you compare them to other series. Getter Robo Armageddon had that problem as well.

>>1186735
True, the amount of pilots and mechs was ridiculous in Z3.2, Especially since you could only use a quarter of them at any given time.

Then again, Z1 also had a massive cast list, and almost everything in that game was gorgeous.

>>1186782
It was also a late-ish ps3 era game to a vita game. They also didn't try to overly stylize the machines and gave them more a similar design. Seeing super deformed next to 'full scale' with thin lines and thick makes it more jarring to the eyes. You can tell the old school mechs from the new ones just because of that.

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>>1183442
One more try for a good pic of the Chimera.

Damn, it's hard not to pick a favorite.

>>1187644
Oh? Do explain. We got a pretty good cross section of mechs and pilots so hearing your top picks would be interesting.

>>1187673

I'd need to write some of them first, which...is what I might actually be doing.

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>>1183442
Garreth Rains Pilot of the Saturn Wraith
Feel free to use whatever BlueGill image you feel best would fit a winged stealth Bluegill Custom Mr.Wong
My PC bit it so I don't have any of my Mech pics

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>>1187878
Actually this one will work alright

>>1187843
Considering the nature of this thread, if there are mini-scenes or skits that you've had in mind for a while but never had the chance to do them due to plot, now is likely the best chance to do them. Like the famous Jesus copy pasta or some other ideas.
I'll try and do a sit-rep of the current situation tomorrow, when I am well rested so we can try to plan and discuss things during this week.

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>>1187884
I suppose the Aries, would also work as a High motility Bluegill Custom
Use which ever one you feel is a better fit

Update:

Rules:
>No Reactive Shields
>No Space Efficiency on Thursters.
>MV limit is -2(Minimum).
>Weight reduction only reduces MV, the weight continues the same for dropkicks and running speed.
>Ammo weight is abolished.
>Only level 1 verniers are allowed.
>Beta Armor only allowed to Avalonians and maybe Kestrels.
>Completely bog-standard feet that do NOTHING take up no spaces and use corebook stats. Any awesome custom feet need to use spaces.
>Feet can have zero spaces if you use space efficiency enough.


Okay, so checking order:
>Dutch-Senpai and his F-Type.- (FINAL)
>Noblewoman-onee-sama and her M-Sagister- (FINAL)
>Tottalynotaspyanon and his Loggerhead-DONE
>Chuuni-boy and his Gyrfalcon.-NEXT

Other mecha:
>Markedfordeathanon and his Libra.-WAITING FOR REPLY.
>Chimeranon and his Chimera.-NEXT
>ELO and his SaturnWraith
>Overworkedanon and his Buddy.
>Thunder-Senpai and his Húskarl
>Avalonanon and his Templar
>Mechbay-oba-san and her Myrm
>Battoujutsu-san and his Lightning
>Not!hunk and the Pumpkinseed Jager.
>Katherine-onee-san and the Valkyrie.
>Wyatt and the Pharcyde
>Tank-kouhai and the Blitz-OPEN FOR LOADOUT SUGGESTIONS(MAYBE)
>Solaireanon and his Ulfberht.

The ones marked as FINAL are already on the pastebin.

>>1183632
Your math is okay, just one thing: i notice that you still have 1.1CP to use, What about buying an Emergency missile? Either a 7k with WA+2 or an plain and old 11K "JUST DIE ALREADY!" last resource.
I checked your weight, +0.5 won't make your thursters more expensive.

>>1183926
You know, you make me feel that sensation I seen to cause in other anons... Every time you change your mech it just gives me more questions.... I'll explain why in a minute or twoOr sixty.

>>1188199
>Emergency missile

Nah, I'm pretty happy where I am. I've already deviated enough from my original plans as it is, and if anything what I need right now is more defense, not offense.

>>1183926
You mad man... Why are your legs bigger than your arms? You can save CP from space efficiency if make your arms M-Striker and your legs Striker! You only need to put +1 Thurster in each of them!

Now... That bad news is that you have a 2Spaces Missiles,One Space hands, and 2Thursters in each arm when they only have 4Spaces each... So you need to change that.

The GOOD news is that you you messed up in your math and your frame+armor costs 47CP and weights 20.5tons(Not 48 and 21), what leaves 1CP to put in space efficiency for each "Pumpkin Missile" and make them 1 Space each.

Also, I messed up in my math before it seems, so your Pumpkinseed should cost 3.32CP each in the 2Spaces version, not 3.4CP.... I know that it doesn't make much difference but may make some depending on how much you end up with after buying the more essential things.

Oh, and the Sniper having limited ammo doesn't really make much sense either, the infinite ammo version would cost 11.97CP and with space efficiency would end up costing the same thing as this one... So just erase the part about clips.
I'm really confused about why I did that now... But it was probably lack of sleep....

Aaaaaaand there is also the fact that your actual CP cost is 122.2CP

How so?

Frame:34CP and 14tons
Armor:13CP and 6.5tons

So,47 and 20.5tons.

Options: 24CP and 1ton
So, 71 and 21.5tons.

Main Weapons:
Pumpkins:6.8CP and 1ton(should cost 6.64)
Meteor: 8.5CP and 0.5 tons(So, 17CP and 1ton.)
Phalanx:4.9CP and 0.5tons.

So, 20.2CP and 2.5tons.

Total: 91.2 and 24tons.

+Loadout
105.2 and 28tons.

+17Thusters.

122.2CP

OH BOY

>>1184728
Sorry for not giving you much attention, kouhai, as you ended up having the bad luck on being one of the ones at last on my list.... But I'll give you a small look when I wake up, I'm very tired today and only still up because of the force of my will I'm kinda immune to coffe, so I'll just give a look at the loggerhead new loadout before going to sleep.

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>>1183803
Are you sure that this one is the FINAL? Its OK, but are you sure that you don't want anymore loadouts?

If you need more time I can mark it as "DONE" and let you on hold before putting on the pastebin...

>>1183926
Just a small suggestion before I go to bed:

First, at this point you are at 122.2 from the maximum of 133.3, and there is the thurster problem, so before anything let fix this.

First, your hands, lets assume they are Custom made 1.5C`hands, so now you have 1 more CP to spend, that goes into the Pumpkins... Now they occupy one space each and problem solved.

Lets also assume that you decide to correct the price of the Pumpkins to 6.64, now 7.64, just to make things even more easy... So now you have 122Cp(+0.04 that we will ignore for a while to shorten things.).

So, where to Put those points? Well... there is two obvious ways:

>FAST AND LETHAL AS A COMET!
Are you happy with your speed of 900m per turn in space? You should be, because now you are the fastest pilot of the tourney... The M-Sagister can accompany you in theory, but it main form of attack would make it slow down in most of occasions, letting you be the almost undisputed master of speed of this contest.

So with that title assured, you can now turn your attention to other problems, like exploding other mecha for example.

But getting new weapons or just upping the kills from everything would make your weight increase and add complications... So the best choice is to invest in things like WA and Range for your weapons, while buffing only the ones under 4tons from your loadouts.

You could also even add the heavy striker sensor that you wanted... If you plan on boosting even more your recon and sniper capabilities.

Just imagine what +9 or 11CP could do to your weapons!

>Option 2:... Do you want to go faster?
Booster Pack or more Thursters, we may need more space, but we still can buff your servos a little bit more.
The problem is... There is only so much 11CP can do, so you probably aren't going more faster than 20MA with thusters, and even booster packs have their limits in terms of fuel and B-Mods.

>Mixed
Buff your arms, fill it with thursters, buy a cheap booster pack and use what is left to buff your loadouts... Won't help much in any area, but could make some difference.

>>1183955
>>1183442
BEST BOY OF THE TOURNEY

>>1188467
Where are you guys getting the info for these loadouts?

>>1188467

BR, are you alright? You may heve been looking at these mechs for too long.

I don't know where you got that 122,2 number from, but you may be looking at the wrong sheet. The Gyrfalcon that i sent you last thread costs 131,7 CP before multipliers. Did you get that one? You could be looking at the old one. Just in case, here it is again.

http://pastebin.com/WXG3v93N

And overall, i am quite happy how it ended up. One problem that i noticed now though is that i did not account for hands in the space allocations, so both pumpkinseed missiles need another half point of space efficiency, but that fits in the budget as is. Could you change that in the space jam pastebin or do you want me to put up another bin with the corrected missiles?

>>1188307
Eh, don't worry about it Brazil. The math is almost certainly correct and I'm just putting it out as a thing you should link to.

>>1188681
Your inability to use proper number notation makes me want to punch you in the face.

>>1188199
What's the cp budget again?

>>1189031
140 CP.

>>1188467
Ok, I have one more.
http://pastebin.com/Nhj8EWbf
throw this in the pastebin and we are done.

>>1187888

Funny you should mention more or less exactly what I had planned. Aside from the Jesus copypasta, one must already be reeeeing to write that.

>>1188944

Is this that silly american thing again where you use periods in place of comma's?

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>>1189181
Man, that is tempting to do myself just so I can see how close to the true REEE I can get. But rested up, I'll keep my word for the sit rep.
First off: The war at large.
The battle at Qu'lir is a complete success for the SLL. 2 Paladins down along with their entire knight units and ships, rebels quelled or captured, and a greenman defeated. In terms of PR, this is the golden egg. Any footage from the dam and how the Greenman acted is going to scare anyone with a faint knowledge of the buggers and further ramp up morale. It also serves as a double whammy with Amos saving those Teslas as starting a good relationship with qu'lir. The intel that important tech is being leaked(and a few people who know it are captured) is going to help as well, since it coul prevent the Avalonians from getting better tech.
The loss of the Avalonian aces and the gain of Soul C is going to be another big thing to consider due to how hard it is to get good aces. Against any Knight based foe, Soul C will be mowing them down. If Sammy was sneaky and data analyzed the three machines, the Kestrels would have a bit of intel on them.
Speaking of our lovable crew, from snippets we've got, Roarke has been cleaning how and getting funds. With the nature and strategic importance of the Belt for Sol, it puts Roarke in a pretty strong position for negotions.. if Fairchild isn't chomping the bit to kill us all. Fatima has a foot in for Hakim, and fear of an secure avalonian presence in the belt will likely have the Jovians try for an alliance. Psyche and the Tournament mechs will be a great boost in power, and with the funds we got, the refurbished SOUL machines will likely be finished as well. While we don't have any perfect 10 Aces yet, the Kestrels have a good number of them in general.
Next time, I'll poke my nose into the Auction and the new year festivities.

>>1189222
>Proper Mathematical Terminology
>Solely an American Thing

What uneducated backwater do you live in?

>>1189337

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark

Long story short, most countries in the world use commas for decimals, however the British decided to use periods to be contrary and spread their ignorant ways accross their colonies and some other countries.

In other words, it's the mathematical equivalent of driving on the left side of the road. It's not neccesarily wrong, but it's going to get complicated when you cross borders.

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>>1189237
The New Years event.
The big event itself. With big wigs everywhere, I am expecting someone trying something. Hopefully with all the effort and time put in, we've set up plenty of ways to secure the site, the VIPs, and the events. Especially considering the assassination attempt during the return trip to Psyche. A simple radio analyzer or jammer could be bought as well in case of unannounced guests like the first mate and her remote controlled drones. With the wrecked cockpits from both remote slayer pods, there should be something there. As is, expect someone to try something and be ready to stamp it down. No Red Weddings.
The Auction is simpler, but also more important. We've got things they want and things we need. We play it smart and we can make things hard for Fairchild.
What we have
Intel in general is valuable, and preventing black mail is as well. The Biggs files are something Jupiter would like to keep secret alongside intel of their soul machines. Paladin data is also valuable to them and something Avalon would like to keep close.
Hostages and valuable: We still have Lori's cousin's elite guard. Little money in the grand scheme of things, but being fair and trading them back can apply pressure to the others. It means we are willing to return VIPs to their home country.
Ourselves: Privateering, mercenary work, free passage through the belt, good trading, all these are valuable without having to put their own men into defending the belt. How valuable remains to be seen, but the very nature of the belt makes holding it hard. Not having to worry about that is a boon.
What we need:
An ally. Mars will do for the short term, but the moment we declare our independence is the moment Fairchild is going to start pushing for our end. We need to secure that.
Lori: Money isn't really a problem for us right now, so a weaker deal to keep her here in exchange for what she knows can help. Intel is what they want after all, and Roarke is getting the most out of it. Keeping her out of the war is also important for Mars and Jupiter, so it's not a bad idea.. though the current attitude is going to determine if this is a good idea or not.
Naomi: No one wants the Lady to get a clone. After the shit that happened with the Father, they may be pushing even harder. Keeping her as an ambassador or neutral third party is possible, but we may have to rescue her ourselves. I wonder if the Green Lady will try and talk through her?
Cabot: This one is a gimme. If Fairchild or Jove wants to get on our good side, Cabot needs to be offered up. If we can get info from Bruce Kelly and put everything together, we have a chance. Likewise, this serves as a perfect out for the Fairchild faction. The missing link between the Green Skulls, Mars, and SOUL. It'd clean out a lot of uncertainty, though that may require us to make a time line and have access to her records. Will likely not work, but hey, forcing Fairchild's hand and making her screw up royally is good too.

Question: Has Roarke been keeping up with his training with The Undefeated?

>>1188681
Please tell me how you got 131CP from this:

Frame+ Armor: 47CP and 20.5tons.

+

24CP and 1tons of Options.
(71CP and 21.5tons)

+
20.2 from standard weapons
(91.2 and 24tons)

+14CP and 4 tons of the loadouts.
(105.2 28tons)

+17Thursters
(122.2CP and 28tons)

>>1189393
I'm just copying people from this thread when I remember to do it, In real life I use "," too.

>>1189174
Hmmmm.... Are you sure?

I'm sure you can come up with one more 26CP gun...Or at least the thread can.

Do you want to open it for suggestion and choose the best one?

>>1189577
I mean if you want 26 CP gun ideas... why not just make at least 1 beam gun loadout for it for drawn out encounters that might use up all the ammo in other loadouts?

or make an auto-shotgun or... maybe a kinetic energy projectile gun to make melee threats back the fuck off

wait... are we using knockback rules... cause that shit can make you lose actions if you take a big enough hit... yeah a 8K projectile gun using KE ammo (double knockback ammo) blows you back 2 hexes, knocks you down and makes you lose 2 actions as long as you are under 70 tons of weight... holy shit thats bad news.

>>1189669
I dont think we have been using it right?

>>1189675
Yeah I haven't really seen it in quest but its noted in the tourney rules that weight efficiency only affects MV and doesn't affect knockback calculation... which means there's a knockback calculation?

I kinda hope we aren't using the knockdown/lose actions part of the rules anyway cause it seems way to easy to stunlock someone with that.

>>1189675
If we did, I think anyone who dealt with the kaiser would be stun locked by the sheer number of fists he's firing.

When did Wong say he was running again?

>>1189683
Presumably they meant that it doesnt affect knockback because its not being used.

>>1189686
Next Monday

>>1189686
Monday. This is mostly a extra thread to do final set ups and voice thoughts before shit hits every fan. If you have thoughts or ponderings, now is the best time to say them.

>>1189686
Monday

>>1189695
That makes sense.

>>1189707
To be fair... I don't remember Wong saying anything about this... So he may be okay with Stun-Only ammo... But you guys should ask it to him.

>>1189577

>Please tell me how you got 131CP from this

I didn't, because those numbers are wrong. You missed one of the Meteor cannons in the standard weapons (those are paired, but i listed them together since they are identical mated weapons).
Also, the frame and armor cost 48 cp, not 47. You don't even need to calculate for that, there are no fractions and there are an even number of odd numbers, so therefore the sum can only be an even number. Those 2 changes give a 9,5 difference in total, so that explains why we reached different results.

Seriously though, it is fine, the only remaining problem are the hands, and the extra space efficiency for the missiles to accomodate them.
So again, can you modify that when you enter it in the general pastebin, or do you want me to make a new personal pastebin with the updated missiles? because it's fine by me either way.

>>1189810
>You missed one of the Meteor cannons in the standard weapons.
Yeah, I just noticed that now, but they should end up costing 13CP after space efficiency, because of the mating, so your standard weapon cost 24,54CP(with missile correction).

>You don't even need to calculate for that, there are no fractions and there are an even number of odd numbers, so therefore the sum can only be an even number.
You forgot about that Striker armor on the torso, so your frame (with 2 CP hands) costs 34CP and the Armor cost 13CP... what results in 47CP.

So now you still have 126.54CP.... So there is still 6.8CP to go.

And that is even before doing the hand customization to bring the missiles down to one space.

>>1189810
Suggestions:
Buy Heavy Striker Sensors(You are a recon unit afterall...).

>Paladin-Killer Missile Laucher (handheld):Range 900m, WA +3, 12K, 5 Shots, 18.5 CP, 8 Spaces, 2 tons.

>2xHeavy missile pod (handheld): Range 687.5m, WA +0, 10K, 6 missiles, 9.25 CP, 4 spaces, 2 tons.

>Beam sniper (handheld): Max Range 11Km(MAXED SENSOR RANGE)(Long Ranged with 750m as base), WA -1, 6K, 18.5 CP, 8 Spaces, 3 tons.

>Beam Rifle (handheld): Range 687.5m , WA +1, 8K, Infinite Ammo, 18.5 CP, 8 Spaces, 4 tons.

It can spot cloaked non-stealth mech up 4KM before they can get in the normal range of normal mechs, and can Snipe people to up 11KM.

Satisfied?

>>1189848

>they should end up costing 13CP after space efficiency

That is not true. Being unmodified 4k beam cannons, they cost 6 cp each and take up 4,5 spaces each due to the mating. There are 2 spaces in the torso for the cannon, so assuming you let them buy space efficiency as a single weapon that is 3,5 cp of space efficiency, for a combined 15,5 cp (7,75 per gun). If you treat them as seperate weapons and don't use decimal points of space efficiency, that becomes more.

Anyway, i'll correct the cannons, add the required space efficiency to the missiles, and i'll add an extra point of armour to the torso. It still has 2 points left to spend afterwards, so i'll add some more space efficiency to the cannons and add a storage compartment.

Corrected pastebin coming in 15 minutes or so.

>>1189946
Yeah, you're right, my bad.

But why the torso armor? Didn't you say that you don't care about it? Better sensors should let you see the enemy even before they see you and would fit the "Recon" concept better.

You can also customize those hands to get more points, like the Libra, as you don't seem to care about going melee anyway.

So... if this quest were an anime what would the Opening theme and Ending theme be?
or did we have this discussion already?

>>1190058
Pretty sure Breaking the Law is Roarke's theme.

>>1190039

You raise a good point. One the one hand, the 11 km sensor range would fit with a recon mech, and IIRC you can use your ASP within your full sensor range, so that would be a plus. On the other hand, it would not add much for the tournament, the 7 km sensor range is perfectly fine for ASP use and sniping, and you use you communications range for detecting others anyway for some bizarre reason, and 1000 km comm range would serve perfectly well for that.

As for the torso armour, i thought that the torso had a very high chance of getting hit on a random roll. Just checked it, and it's 30% (40 if you say that a 9 rolls over to the torso if there are no wings or tails). Since it is the most likely part to be hit by a randomly rolled shot, giving it a little extra armour to survive 1 or 2 shots sounds like a good idea. And even then, it's just 3 armour, nothing too heavy.

As for the hands, it's not a bad idea, but it sounds a bit munchkinny. Besides, it pretty much does all it wants to do. It's very fast, it has some very dangerous (and long ranged) guns and missiles, and it spot and target even hidden enemies from 7 km away.

>>1190132

Screw it, that'll do.

http://pastebin.com/vWNBwv8s

One Gyrfalcon VII, complete, 139,34 CP and tournament legal. Please add it to the pastebin when you have the time. I'm off to bed.

You know, i have a feeling this whole design process would have been a lot shorter if i didn't do most of my work on it somewhere between 1 AM and 6 AM.

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>>1190084

It is, although the ending theme changes for episodes where one of the waifus plays a significant part. Especially a certain Red Siren.

>>1190487
so wong... how are we handling knockback in the tourney and this quest?

>>1190487

Oh shit, wrong picture, I meant to post Red.

>>1190526

I think I tried it once and found it lacking. Let's ignore it for now.

>>1190487
Mm. Honestly, if I knew more about the royalties involving Queen songs, I'd try to figure out how that would work. Would be neat though, using instrumentals and vocals but rather than going fancy it goes with that proper 80s Mecha feel.
>>1190546
Too late, the red pills have already been ingested. Have some fancy music machine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q

>>1190546
ok I was wondering because with an 8K projectile gun with Kinetic Energy ammo you could effectively stunlock someone forever it seems
cause KE ammo doubles damage for purpose of knockback calculation and at 15+ damage the target gets blown back 2 hexes, falls down and loses 2 actions...

>>1190554
ah I was just watching that video a bit ago, they make some weird music doodads.

have some videogame music from a franchise i've gotten into recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXf68PQTaDo&index=3&list=FLVcBf0g4aD8cCVmxzS9g_QQ

>>1190581
Etrian Odyssey. Good series, though I also tried my hand at the old bards tale and wizardry. Always had trouble with them, but they were fun.

>>1190600
>>1190581

Any decent LPs of EO out there?