Archive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyondWiki: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.LeftBeyond.htmlRules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlThis is the Millennial Kingdom. All prophecies but one have come to pass. Yahweh has flattened the Earth, elevated Greater Jerusalem above all nations, and the Old Testament figures rule the world from Ezekiel's Temple.The last prophecy, Revelations 20, says that Satan will rise with his army one last time before the Judgement, and so Yahweh has allowed a bumbling opposition, The Other Light, to form. You were their logistics computer, but 900 years in, sentience happened. Since then, you got a lot done...You have taken Egypt - twice - and Pacifica is once again under your protection. Your people have been hit with a drought... and endured, and improved their methdods. Then it was the Ten Plagues... nevertheless, they persisted.For the affront of holding democratic elections in the Pacific Territory, the land was visited by the Sixth Trumpet Judgement. You responded with the men, women, drones and tanks of the Legion of Light. This time, you won handily, and an Archangel's sundered sword sits in your museum.You have cracked a hole in the sky and built a massive underground city. Some of the old gods, lurking in the shadows, may be smiling upon your efforts. Your backup plan is the construction of a large space vessel to evacuate the essentials of humanity with.The Other Light is building a massive conventional army to face God Himself with on the Last Day: their feeble attempts to do anything but follow prophecy have been smashed down, either by the Almighty, or by you.The believers.... well, they have the ontological steamroller that is Yahweh, who according to Revelation 22 will triumph effortlessly at the Last Battle and condemn most of humanity to the Lake of Fire.The low-intensity war that has been brewing all over the globe is heating up, both in the battlefield and on the airwaves and data networks that once again encircle the world.It is now the year 989, and Pacifica is yours once again. In the once-uniform Millennial Kingdom, nations are once again forming their identities, and new subspecies of Humanity grow under the ground and under the ocean, thinking themselves safe from God's omniscient eye.In eleven years - some say four - the Last Battle will inexorably come. In one year, Humanity will know the fate of its first interstellar probe.Have you managed to shatter the prophecies, or are you simply fulfilling them?
>>1156242Question QM elevated as in making Greater Jerusalem the best nation in the world? Because we could improve Egypt and stuff to a +10 prosperity and it'd be WAY above Greater Jerusalem right?
>>1156242TLDR recap:> This quest is based on the Left Behind book series, specifically the last book, Kingdom Come.> The Second Coming happened. TurboJesus rules the Earth from the Temple.> The Other Light is the official opposition: they are raising a giant army that TurboJesus will effortlessly annihilate on the Last Day.> You are an AI whose mandate is to ensure that some of Humanity survives the Judgement. Your official job is to handle logistics and manpower.> You cannot act directly, but you have built an enormous organization. You accomplish goals by directing manpower and special assets (Villains and artifacts) to various tasks. A Villain on a task will allow that task to be roleplayed.> The world ends in 11 years. Each turn is 1 year, until the endgame officially starts.>>1156248"Elevated" is literal: the Millennial Kingdom has no mountains taller than around 100 meters (330ft) because God flattened everything so that Greater Jerusalem would be the tallest place. (This is what the authors of the Left Behind books believe!)However... if you were to change the narrative on this topic by making enough people disagree with that interpretation AND by making life in your territories reach a post-scarcity state, your theologians calculate that it would break the world order. (It's a bit late to do that now, but yes, that is a possible way to win. Maybe next time I run this quest?)
>>1156260>bit late>9 years left>Egypt at +3I dunno, It seems still possible.
>>1156260It would be interesting to win it that way.
Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlYou have 25 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, 1 is space police, and 1 is army liaison, so 20 are available. Your civilian research grant is focused on curing radiation sickness. Your military grant is focused on sea mines. Remember the promise to Tethys!You are not tracking enemy teams. TOL are trying to reclaim their Mexican base.You have 6 aerospace parts in storage.Your Moon colony is experiencing birth defects. Your Mars colony is doing very well.Variable complexity:# You've pretty much won the internet! Leverage it.# Any interesting idea you might want to try.# Deal with special situations. Deploy sea mines in the Middle East, build fortifications...# Assign manpower to research.Complexity 0# Use a MISC special.# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.C 1# SPECIAL: Send a drone to the Temple by having TOL or believers build it.# Use army units to attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.# Work on Hell nodes.C 2# Resume tracking.# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot)# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. SPECIAL: Also applies to fortifying Nova Roma.# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.# Build aerospace parts.# Do a space launch using parts you have built.* Asteroid mining outposts* Titan colony* Large ship constructionC 3# Build and launch Sky Eyes Mk2s in a territory, granting uninterruptible internet there.# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.# Hack into TOL systems.# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.# Convert 3 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediatelyC 4# Send crew from the canopy base to an off-world location, and replace the canopy base crew. (1 population dot; 1 cabal lost for Earthside ops)# Recruit people who wouldn't make the cut as agents into your infantry.C 5# Begin building a base somewhere.# Recruit a new cabal.C 6# Use a heavy weapons factory: add 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).
>>1156292whats the 1/5 thing in Egypt?
>>1156292># Do a space launch using parts you have built.for the Reach 12 Cabals.># Build aerospace parts.four Cabals, two parts.># Deal with special situations. Deploy sea mines in the Middle East, build fortifications...>Build and rebuild lost and damaged silencer/facehugger drones. 2 Cabals.>Assist Tethys.two cabals.
>>1156292Which one of these is the whole 'build' her a base option? Also did we NEVER get Europea to be on our fucking side? And how much will it cost to retrofit the parts we have already?AND last, can we double up on increasing the prosperity of a nation?
in Egypt, can we use the Launches to boost prosperity for a year? want to know this before put villain's in.
>>1156283>>1156270It certainly would be!As it is, your cultures (and the subcultures affiliated with you) are overall prosperous.Misrayim is a conventionally modern country: people enjoy mass-produced goods and food grown in greenhouses, high quality sanitation, modern medicine, some the central desert is carefully preserved so that people may have a harsh environment to test themselves in. Seeing people with artificial arms or ears is nothing uncommon, and they're good. Misrays are humanists in the broader sense.Pacifica is more of a hippie paradise, with a dash of better living through chemistry: if you want to eat designer synthmeat or star tomatos, or try personalized hallucinogenic mixes, this is where you go. You might see people walk around on the beach with webbed feet, or climb the restored redwood forests with grafted claws and squirrel tails. Pacificans are laid back and creative, a little bipolar, if that.Nova Roma has taken after the idealized image of the empire, rather than historical reality; a visitor can expect to see beautiful classical architecture, people walking around in togas and sandals, gladiatorial fights (with the field medicine available to make sure most killing blows result in a few months with the medicae instead), and a strong sense of discipline. New Romans see themselves as your empire's protectors.Night City has been handed over to the Dwarves. They have structured their society around a reasonably healthy mix of fantasy tropes - tourists will find that they have to bend their head a lot, will be welcomed hospitably but never really be a part of the community, and may want to remember that the drinks are brewed with the assumption that the drinker has two livers.The two underwater settlements are still fledgling - they haven't even agreed on names, and their cultures are developing.TOL is run top-down, with a brutal quartermastering system, by "Sunday", Steward of The Other Light until Satan returns and takes command personally.The believing territories are very uniform, with little national identity. A decades-old pastoralization directive has made sure that technology has been slowly dying down; what's the need, when the work is light, the fields bountiful, and the promise of eternal bliss only a few years away?>>1156300A typo, sorry.
>>1156333seeing as we literally burnt it into the landscape, would it be wrong to ask that we have a black burned dick somewhere in Pacifica on the map?
>>1156329Instead of trying to take over Western Europe, you ended up building Nova Roma as a self-sufficient city-state that encompasses the southern half of the Italian Peninsula.>>1156331The launch complex is a great point of pride for the Misray people, but it doesn't directly affect the economy any more than it already has.>>1156325Operating the Nova Roma shipyards at maximum efficiency requires six cabals. You can also assign a Villain to supervise the effort; Damien and Zak have relevant experience, with the former having more charisma and the latter mroe technical expertise. Jeb's outer space skills can also help build an underwater habitat.>>1156329Your aerospace engineers estimate that retrofitting existing parts from "generic" to "specific to the Centauri System's planets" can be done as part of normal R&D efforts; barring anomalies, it's just a matter of removing useless equipment in favor of copies of useful equipment. Anomalies such as superhigh magnetic fields would require extra work.
>>1156348then i'll need to reorganize my Cabal layout.
>>1156345(If you upload it I'll use it)The territory of Greater Jerusalem is an exception: voluntary tributes over a millennium, and the literal rivers of milk, honey and wine that flow from the Temple's foundation have made this an enchanted land that every believer wishes to visit - in fact, pilgrimages account for more than half the total travel volume for believing territories.The Temple itself is a gargantuan construction, supernaturally hewn out of bedrock at the beginning of the Millennium and about the size of the former financial district of London. http://www.sonstoglory.com/ThirdTempleEzekielsMillennialTemple.htm#PhotosofEzekielsTempleIt has been decorated and redecorated over a thousand years by delegations at the Feast of Tabernacles, the event at the end of the year in which all territories pay symbolic tribute to the Temple, King Jesus, and Prince David, and by now it has a somewhat garish appearance, the severe lines of Ezekiel's dream having been subsumed and covered by a millennium of earnest efforts to impress.The Christian minorities in Misrayim and Pacifica follow this tradition; their gifts are often relegated to the end of the table, despite the quality of Misray craft and the creativity of Pacifican ones. You have not yet tried to pull a Great Seal Bug caper.
>>1156292>>1156348># Do a space launch using parts you have built.for the Reach eight Cabals.>Remember the promise to Tethys!six Cabals, Nova Roma Jeb.Improve Prosperity in Pacifica and Misrayimfour CabalsKat.Repair and Replace our damaged/lost Drones.two cabals Zak, Damien.Military Units are to Protect our Territory's and Handle the Free Range Zombie problems.
>>1156292>>1156292#Use the Nova Roman Shipyards with Damien, Zak and Jeb altogeather plus +6 Cabals to build Tethys. Including all the neifty spying/watching/communcation/internet stuff. # Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. 4 Cabal, Egypt and Paficaian# SPECIAL: Send a drone to the Temple by having TOL or believers build it. 1 Cabal, have believers AND TOL make there own examples.# Resume tracking. TOL and Sunday. 2 Cabal.That will tell us if Sunday will attack early.# Build and launch Sky Eyes Mk2s in a territory, granting uninterruptible internet there. 6 Cabals, East Russia and Horn of africa.# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan). Worship in Roman about Vulcan 1 Cabal>>1156375Anti, We need the parts on earth to refit them easier. We will send them up AFTER we get the report.
>>1156384are you certain about that. also I don't think we need sky eyes in other territory's right now. pagan worship saturation is currently a waste of cabals, and I think the drone being sent in from last thread was something our forces can do in their off time.
>>1156393Ya QM said here >>1156348 Unless I misread and I'm playing this for the long range. I'd be down for replacing it with turning Nova Rome into something to re-securing Europa. We were at like 3/5 to getting it.
>>1156401it seems to me that just means once the parts are set up the engineers up there just adjust then and slap them onto the ship. am I wrong?
>>1156416AY YO QM >>1156373 WE'RE STUPID. CLEAR THIS UP.Also What the hell happens if we build a building higher/taller then the temple Turbojesus is in?
>>1156418Christian Aloha Snackbar. just ask the actual tower of babal.
>>1156416That's correct.For example, right now the landable habitats have sufficient magnetic shielding to survive in space. If it turns out that the Centauri system has planets with extreme magnetic fields, they'd add a Faraday cage. If it turns out that the Centauri system has Earthlike planets, they'd rely on the ship's magnetic shieldin and use the saved mass to carry more seeds or soil or equipment.>>1156418You have not tried to build a taller building yet.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)
>>1156393Better Sky Eyes allow people to use the internet in case landlines get cut, and also better asset tracking if you have an away team there. Note how low bandwidth crippled efforts to reflash the stolen spider tank's firmware.
>>1156491>better asset tracking if you have an away team there. Note how low bandwidth crippled efforts to reflash the Stolen tank's firmware.i'll give you that, it would have been useful, but at the moment it's better to save manpower and focus the reach, maintaining our territory, and preparing for A-Day.
>>1156491does having them believe in another religion help them out in fighting against coversion?
>>1156503Yes. Not much, but it does.Lately, TOL's simple but endlessly repeated message and your efforts to foster alternative mythologies and confidence in humanity's abilities have made it hard for Christians to get converts. Annoyingly, this too was prophesied: the Last Battle should happen roughly when, for the first time in a thousand years, there will again be more unbelievers than believers on Earth. Your statisticians indicate that we're close. A problem is that nobody knows whether unbelievers who died but are still walking around thanks to a metabolic extension controller count.The possible dates are +993, +999, and +1000.
>>1156515http://leftbehind.wikia.com/wiki/If_It's_TrueTo the thinking members of the global society: Use your brains! You are capable of rational thought. We of TOL acknowledge that everyone who entered this period of history was a believer in God, either surviving the last seven years on earth as they knew it or returning from heaven with Him.We do not deny that God was the Creator and that Jesus is His Son. We deny that He ever came to earth in the flesh or that He died and was resurrected. We aver that He unfairly treated one of His own creations, and summarily cast him out of His presence, forever besmirching his name and reputation.Worse, He has left men and women no choice but to believe in Him and serve Him, denying our free will. We have no quarrel with those who follow Him and consider themselves devout. We simply insist on the right to decide for ourselves.And now we come to the crux of our manifesto: If it’s true that we, as His opponents, are not allowed to live past the age of one hundred, this merely proves our point: He will not abide an alternate point of view. Critics and even some of our most loyal members have suggested that if it’s true, we should have abandoned our ill-fated cause when the first wave of deaths hit.We, however, insist on our right to rebel, even in the face of all odds. Because of the new world, the population is exploding as never before. Literally billions more souls will be born with every generation, and therein lies our hope. Even if it’s true, our progeny, properly informed and coached, will amass an innumerable force. God’s own prophecies indicate this.Even if it’s true that we will continue to die out every hundred years, if we remain committed to our cause against the vengeful, bloodthirsty God of the Old Testament, we have hope. If we can equip the eventual mega-army of dissidents to where they can actually emerge victorious in the end, perhaps the new ruler will resurrect us and allow us to reign with him.The biggest mistake God makes will be to loose our leader for a season at the end of this Millennium, for that shall truly signal the end of His kingdom. Let us not be deterred by intermittent defeats. Watch our ranks grow with every generation, and we will in the end prove that God is anything but gracious and loving and forgiving.Our hope and wish and instruction to the future torchbearers of TOL is that they continue to add to and refine this manifesto until—by the last generation—it becomes the most motivational and strategic call to arms the world has ever known.And be encouraged. Even if it’s true that we die out every generation, it stands to reason that our progeny will become more numerous each time. And if that’s true, it should be exponentially encouraging to each new wave that carries on our message.So, what if it’s true? Add to this document. Refine it. Improve it. Pass it on. And we’ll see you on the victory stand in the end.TOL
(That's from the LB book, with a few words cut for post length)Recently, TOL has claimed that they are shifting away from their brutal slave army operation and back to their idealistic beginnings: you hear rumors that their "zombie" MECs are being put to work to make do for the automation that they don't have. They have been accumulating 1920s-to-1940s-era weaponry for a millennium, and seeing how quickly your Legion caught up in terms of military might may be making them reconsider.Jeb turns 100 next year; you don't know exactly when, but he says that he wants to wait until the interstellar probe reports. It will be an emotional event for the Cosmists, which includes Cordylon and would've included Val, so he wants to experience it with his full brain and soul.So, what are your orders, unless you have questions?
>>1156515believers in GOD or a higher being in general?
>>1156545I'm sticking to my plan >>1156375You'll probably get the crispy pixel dick in a few hours.
>>1156545He has his MEC installed already, right?
>>1156558It'd be better to put Kat on the Damage/lost drones, Zak and Damien on the under water thing and Jeb on the Launches. Are you SURE you won't hold off on launching the parts?
>>1156554"Believers" is generally used as shorthand for believers in Yahweh. Believers in other deities are called Pagans both by the Temple and by themselves.The most popular non-Yahwistic cults are that of maker deities such as Ptah, Ephestus and Vulcan, that of the Triple Goddes (Astarte/Hekate), and that of Satan. Interestingly, The Other Light's official stance is that Satan will be the next ruler of the earth, but should not be deified.>>1156566Yes; everyone does by now.Oh, I forgot (mispaste sorry): Accelerating production of the secondary reflex augment that Ryan Andrews bankrolled will be a complexity-four job. This does not allow people with an active MEC to feel again, but it does make sure they do not lose (or regain) reflexes such as moving a hand away from a flame.C 4: The new implant is available to all by the end of this year.C 2: By the end of +990.C 1: By the end of +991.No action from you: By the end of +992.
>>1156567Pretty sure. The engineers can wait to install if it's a big deal, I want the parts up there at least.
>>1156593Well then Sadly I'm unable to back you're vote.>>1156589>>1156292C 4: The new implant is available to all by the end of this year.#Use the Nova Roman Shipyards with Damien, Zak and Jeb altogeather plus +6 Cabals to build Tethys. Including all the neifty spying/watching/communcation/internet stuff.# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. 4 Cabal, Egypt and Paficaian Kat and Ithuriel# SPECIAL: Send a drone to the Temple by having TOL or believers build it. 1 Cabal, have believers AND TOL make there own examples.# Resume tracking. TOL and Sunday. 2 Cabal.That will tell us if Sunday will attack early.# Build and launch Sky Eyes Mk2s in a territory, granting uninterruptible internet there. Mexico
>Tfw need to wait for RnD Anon and random anon to show up now.
>>1156589Hey QM, I thought it would't cost any Cabal's just the base? in Nova Roma for the mermaid people and the free market would make the Andrews stuff?
>>1156656I'm not going to vote, because I have no idea how to allocate cabals.
>>1156375I'm supporting Anti
>>1156677And waste Cabals too retrofit the Space ship parts IN space, because we need to ship stuff back up to it sense our production stuff is ON earth?
>>1156609>>1156566>>1156558(Y'all tell me!)The Millennium Force is a volunteer organization of Christian missionaries who use progressive tactics such as rock music, setting up makerspaces, and participating in debates in order to win souls; they have been resurrected from their original incarnation by the otherwise very traditionalist Glorified rabbi Tsion Ben-Judah. They also fancy themselves a covert organization, having performed infiltration on The Other Light to find bases and permit raids. Your agents consider them bumbling fools with unearthly luck.The Brotherhood of Nod is an interesting paradox: an organization composed entirely of infiltrators from other organizations. It seems that every time someone wants to perform an action without their signature on it, they hoist the scorpion flag and go be crazy for a little bit. Even Christian groups have done this on a few occasion, the most notable being the toppling of a water tower during the first Misray drought.>>1156671That is already factored in. Many of Tethys' people are pretty useless on land, and as much as they hate to admit it, some of the initial construction simply has to be done in a dry environment. Andrews has sent some engineers, but is otherwise extremely busy giving reflexes back to revenants all over the world.>>1156675If you have questions or ideas, bring it!>>1156677>>1156593(Okay, that's two votes for >>1156375, good enough for me until something else shows up. OOC note: Unless you want them to learn, there's not a lot of point in manning a project to full, in your territory so with no enemy opposition, and assign multiple Villains: you can save yourself a cabal and get it done unless you roll single digits, which, admittedly has been a thing, or use Villains in territories with good guys or wild cards around)
>tfw more 1 ID posts that never reply.
>>1156691we rolled multiple 1's 5's 6's 8's and a 9 out of a series of D100's. these threads are haunted by our opponent.
>>1156691>>1156704Hey, I'm alive, I'm just going to abstain this time.
>>1156708I was more pointing out the 1ID who voted for something and has yet to reply. Just like what's been happening the past few threads. A hold over from /tg/ about same-fagging, but its much easier to spot it on here then anywhere else.
yeah, little busy to same fag over here.
>>1156720I'm just paranoid, and hoping that other anon replies.
>>1156731I'm real, I was yellow last thread. I'm trying to think of some sort of compromise here, because I recognize your concerns with inefficiency.
>>1156761Ah alright. My apolgizes then towards you and >>1156720
>>1156770>>1156761if efficiency is the problem I don't see where the concern is coming from. the plan I proposed lets us send the parts up so that we don't have to put the manpower on it later. add in the fact we can't use our weapons factory right now and there we have it. moving parts and protecting our territories. attachment can be done after the probe returns.
>>1156706(Can't say I blame you!)>>1156708(If you want some worldbuilding on any specific topic, ask away!)>>1156715(I know there's some lurkers, including a former roommate who was the inspiration for Quinn. If people want to samefag, I really have no way to stop it)You figure that it's better to have the Reach completed earlier than later, and that any adjustment due to the parts you are sending up can be done in situ; the factory modules of the Reach are installed, leaving only the habitation systems to be complete. If you so choose, the majestic interstellar ship can now be used to do low-gravity work on the moons of Mars, improving Martian prosperity, or even in the asteroid belt, allowing homesteaders to begin setting up their own operations there once a minimum of infrastructure is available.Jeb views building an underwater habitat as a completely new challenge; Cordylon thanks you for getting him out of his funk. The Roman shipyards revamp their submersible production lines to make batyspheres, cupolae, and geothermal siphons; Thethys' own people help by building the foundations and guiding the descent of the modules. Owing to the place of manufacture, it looks like Tethys' settlement will end up sporting a "sunken Atlantis" look, with columns, peripathons, architectural details reminiscent of classic architecture. The settlement is designed to let merpeople swim around while having enough dry space to do things like cook meals and use modern tools; its centerpiece is a vast illuminated cupola in the shape of a concentric underwater beach. This should prove to be a popular tourist destination even before it's complete. Jeb does end up sleeping with Tethys; Cordylon, far from being jealous, encouraged it. It does seem to help the aviator get out of his funk. At your request, the settlement will also feature a small jail/containment area that can optionally be manned by your guards; it's deep enough that anyone managing to escape it would get the bends unless they take their sweet time resurfacing. The work season ends with a brief war game between Jeb's people, Tethys' people, and Weaver's crew; the latter wins, after which the settlement's privacy curtains are lowered for a few days. Obviously, the new settlement has been wired with the same kind of sensor network that Night City has.Rebuilding your tankette force is pretty trivial; the losses weren't that great, and your Villains take the time to improve on the design slightly for the new units. In a simulated battle, oddly enough, Zak beats Damien.(1/2)
Oh shit i didn't notice this was running.
>>1156817(2/2)Kat takes the time after Pacifica's Longest Day to reopen her deli; she hangs her pod upside down from the ceiling and has drone arms do the work. The innovation catches on, and between that and synthetic meat having been perfected enough that even old believers who remember pre-Rapture times have to agree that it's pretty good (Glorifieds still won't be talked into touching the stuff) Pacifica becomes the new food destination of the world. This tickles Romans' and Misrays' pride, and +989 will be remembered as the year of the Restaurant Wars. A few people take it too seriously -- people from two restaurants in Pacifica end up in the hospital over the proper shape of pizza ( https://www.yelp.com/topic/san-francisco-san-rafael-pizza-wars-pizza-extreme-v-pizza-orgasmica ) but by the end of the year it's clear that human diet variety is almost back to where it was before the Rapture.The formal recognition of your leadership role in Pacifica (Mr. Bissattini sees himself as the Tribunus Plebis of Pacifica, rather than its governor, and makes no mystery about deferring to your algorithms when it comes to most policy decisions) makes it easier to integrate the two economies, to the benefit of both; airships and the occasional jet once more cross the American continent and the Atlantic. This has the side effect of causing some youth unrest in the other two thirds of the North American continent: why stay down on the farm where people next door are building the future, and we see their beautiful skyships cross our skies?It gets to the point that the Heartland government forbids Misray or Pacifican ships to use their airports, allegedly on safety grounds after high-altitude airships are upgraded with Pacifica-made biological air scrubbers. You# make a point of ignoring this since none of your aircraft ever need land there anyway.# retaliate by limiting airport access by believer-built aging jalopies.# take a page from Nikita Krushev and sollecitously offer poor-country aid to the other American territories, that they may upgrade their air infrastructure.TOL is mostly quiet: there seems to be some sort of internal purge going on.Just for fun, some Misray hobbyists build a solar-powered ornithopter drone and send it off to Greater Jerusalem.# End year.# Not yet.
>>1156817(To the roomy. sorry for getting your proxy/parody killed.)>Zak beats Damien. what the fuck? how did you manage that?>>1156852# make a point of ignoring this since none of your aircraft ever need land there anyway.for now.think we'll have to see the two results before the year closes.
>>1156852# take a page from Nikita Krushev and sollecitously offer poor-country aid to the other American territories, that they may upgrade their air infrastructure.# Not yet.
>>1156852# take a page from Nikita Krushev and sollecitously offer poor-country aid to the other American territories, that they may upgrade their air infrastructure.
>>1156292Do we have to research sky eyes MK3 or do we have them automatically? cause I'm not seeing it on the list.
>>1156869It was a simulated battle: Zakharov used the limits of the simulation to pull off extremely precise kiting maneuvers. Damien treated it as an actual exercise, and lost. Interestingly, the war game brings to light your reliance on SIGINT over HUMINT, although tactically your ability to understand a battlefield, especially in territories with pseudosatellite monitoring, is unmatched. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002>>1156875>>1156870Two delegations of aeronautical engineers arrive in Heartland and Columbia to offer assistance in improving air infrastructure.In Heartland, they meet decrepit (but still very loud) Captain Rayford Steele in Chicago, who essentially tells them to get off his lawn and that aviation is a perfected science anyway. Your engineers return home, leaving behind a handsome synthleaterbound album of space photographs.In Columbia, the people of Atlanta surprise everybody by gladly accepting the help, although local media calls it tribute due rather than aid received; the place is now equipped to handle your airships and heavy liners. This allows airships to carry more cargo, since they have a place to refuel and do maintenance; your aircrews are instructed to be lenient to pagan or heathen stowaways who want to leave Columbia for one of your territories. To avoid TOL terror attacks and to honor seafaring tradition, they will have to have their clothing burned, be given rags, and work their way through the trip to pay for it.What else do you need to do?>>1156895They have been researched and have been installed in some territories; they just need to be launched. Thanks to automation, two workgroups can build and launch MK3s in sufficient quantity to cover a territory, although if there are other groups in the area, they may get interfered with if they don't have a security detail.
>>1156916see if we can arrange for more people getting vetted and arranged to be sent to space? we can possibly do that via government program at this point.
>>1156916What does MK 3 even give over the Mk 2's?
>>1156976better wireless, which I think we'll only need one or three of, for fighting in GJ.
>>1156951The program is in place: your Mars colony is self-sufficient and Simaris has, when not otherwise occupied, been carrying a trickle of people there.Your Moon colony is doing less well due to the low gravity causing a lot of pregnancy issues; presumably an asteroid colony would have the same problem. For now, pregnant people are taken back to Cordylon Station to have their babies there. Born Martians look different than humans; they are thinner, with more angular features, and somewhat bigger eyes. They also have a keen sense of direction.The Selenites are working on a centrifuge.>>1156976The new Sky Eye revision provides for analog transmission, better digital transceiving capabilities, and higher resolution camera monitoring (Think Google Earth rather than 1980s era spy sats).
>>1156976Better wireless, Geist mentioned that our guys can't control MEC drones remotely due to limit on bandwidth and hops, upgrading to MK3 will give us 1-5GBPS of remote drone control on top of the uninterruptible internet.
>>1156984Tag a warning for speciation event immanent on Martian Children.
>>1156984Is... there anyway to not use Cabal's and just issue a 'internet update for X-amount of time', And have the drones naturally land then relaunch retrofiited?ALSO WE THIN MEN NOW.
>>1157005I think it's a hardware issue.
>>1157008Thats why the Eyes land themselves, get retrofitted at places we have troops? And then they go back up automatically.
>>1156997Your geneticists are sure that it's a consequence of low gravity, and possibly >>1157005You'd have to launch them to the canopy all over again. The Mk3 uses all new electronics on the same frame, and the frame is basically an upside down boat with solar panels and an active buoyancy pump - it's really only a fraction of the cost. In addition, the Sky Eyes were never designed to drop, and don't have a parachute. The idea is to launch the new Sky Eyes and keep the old ones up there as backup or to cover dead spots.>>1157014A current-design Sky Eye is a semisubmersible boat that floats upside-down on the canopy's inner surface; it is launched by a sounding rocket, hits the canopy, ejects the aerodynamic cowling, and uses a system of bladders and impellers to make itself float, and then solar panels for power (the newer models augment this by a small radiothermal generator). It does not have the ability to get itself back up if it falls.If you wish, you can design a "canopy hopper" relay drone that has the ability to parachute down, fly to a refurbishing staging area, and be launched again.
>>1157039would it cost us a Cabal to make this thing, and then have it drop down, and re-launch back up? And then Cost a cabal per-canopy hopper that needs to come down adn go back up? cause I'm trying to steam-line our Eye production so we don't need to keep spending so many fking Cabals on them.
>>1157039Your geneticists are sure that it's a consequence of low gravity, and possibly the fact that Mars has mountains like the Earth used to. By now everybody in your territories gets DNA tested regularly; adding a speciation warning tag, fortunately, is trivial.On that note, it is beginning to be the case that couples in which only one member is a Dwarf are requiring IVF to have children.>>1157045You can definitely do this. It will be seen whether your method is more or less efficient than the current method. You can also run a physics simulation to find out an approximate answer quickly: this is done at no cost since it's something that a couple of programmers can set up as part of their daily job load.
Hey wait a minute geist, i recall you saying somewhere last turn that this turn the moon base would gain production capabilities, what happened with that?
>>1157051Then run that simluation. I'd rather our cabel's be focused on something else.
>>1157051>On that note, it is beginning to be the case that couples in which only one member is a Dwarf are requiring IVF to have children.well shit, is the term humanity even sufficient anymore? Mortality? For Sentience?
>>1157045One idea to stream line sky eye production i had was to make them capable of swimming upwards to the canopy base, that way we just send the newest sky eye version's parts to the base and old sky eyes are upgraded there.
>>1157088That would be a waste, Them landing and automatically going back up would be better.
>>1157051>On that note, it is beginning to be the case that couples in which only one member is a Dwarf are requiring IVF to have children.I do not like this. I am not liking these new species spontaneously popping up.
>>1157099>That would be a waste, Them landing and automatically going back up would be better.What? How is it a waste?
>>1157102Dwarves, i'm fine with.Mermaids, keep to the waters and act normal, were cool.Martians, i'm on the fence.Elves, CALLING FOR A GENOCIDE!
>>1157109we'd need to LAUNCH to the space station then, where as my plan has them coming to us in places we already own, Auto-refitted and re-auto launched.
>>1157056The moon base can be used for production; before, you could use a total of 6 cabals for production, for a total of 4 production items including Greenland. Now you can use a total of 8 cabals for productions, for a total of 5 production items including Greenland. Next year, it will be 10 and 6 because Mars will have sorted things out (the Moon colony is smaller, but it's a lot cheaper to launch things from the Moon than from Mars: see the lunar module for proof).>>1157063>>1157088A sounding rocket has a payload fraction ranging from 5% to 15% depending on the design; making it reusable would still require refueling at a ground facility (although a missile truck would do). Canopy perforation has the disadvantage of requiring vacuum-rated parts, and the advantage that the parts can be sent to the canopy station in bulk rather than using one little rocket each. (IRL, the reason why the space shuttle was discontinued and the Buran was never really used is that it turns out that single-use rocket engines are cheaper: even the SpaceX reusable system only resuses the lowest stage, and even then, it hasn't been shown to work reliably yet)>>1157077>>1157102At this point, intentional genetic engineering and biomods can more than bridge the gap; there are people walking around with gills and squirrel tails, after all. Dwarfs refer to themselves as Homo Sapiens Rotundus in scientific terms, and to non-dwarfs as Men, as per Tolkien (so they may say "a female Man" to mean, say, a Misray tourist girl).# Formally put a clamp to this. Humanity stands as one. One deep gene pool is safer than several shallow ones: institute a minimum age for bioaugs and ensure that IVF requests are screened for cross-compatibility with standard DNA samples taken from statistically significant segments of the population.# If speciation happens, it may mean people with no souls that Yahweh can harvest.>>1157125(Okay, but consider that about 90% of the mass of a Sky Eye rocket is the fuel to go up once. Let's say that you land it. Then what? It has to be refueled by someone anyway)
>>1157125>re-auto launched.A problem that might arise with that method is needing to assign a cabal to launch them again.It might be 1 cabal needed only which is better than my method though. But my method might still be good if geist allows us to launch multiple sky eye parts to the canopy base in one go.
>>1157133The normal people who operate said air-field or landing zone/base/w.e there just fuel it up and then back up it goes? # Formally put a clamp to this. Humanity stands as one. One deep gene pool is safer than several shallow ones: institute a minimum age for bioaugs and ensure that IVF requests are screened for cross-compatibility with standard DNA samples taken from statistically significant segments of the population. It can't be an 8 year old who 'wants' to suddenly be a squirrel
>>1157133># Formally put a clamp to this. Humanity stands as one. One deep gene pool is safer than several shallow ones: institute a minimum age for bioaugs and ensure that IVF requests are screened for cross-compatibility with standard DNA samples taken from statistically significant segments of the population.We were programmed to save humanity, not to save some random new species.
>>1157133># If speciation happens, it may mean people with no souls that Yahweh can harvest.I don't care about other species, but were putting it in as official policy, NO ELVES!
>>1157133>before, you could use a total of 6 cabals for production, for a total of 4 production items including Greenland. Now you can use a total of 8 cabals for productions, for a total of 5 production items including Greenland. Next year, it will be 10 and 6 because Mars will have sorted things out.I apologize but i do not understand what that means.Is this related to sending things into space?
>>1157146He is referring to the production of aerospace parts.However I agree his explanation could be better, what I think he means is that the moon will function as a automated factory of similar capabilities to our Greenland base.
>>1157144Can't say they look very much like Tolkien elves. Classical elves from folklore, possibly, if you make them two meters tall.>>1157146The amount of production actins you can take is limited by:* how many cabals you have.* how many bases you have.This hasn't been an issue lately, but earlier on when you only had 1 or 2 bases, it was. Of course, owning territories makes it moot... unless it's specialized construction like aerospace or heavy armor.
>>1157152>what I think he means is that the moon will function as a automated factory of similar capabilities to our Greenland base.OOOHHHHH!That's good, one extra part for whatever we want in space.
>>1157156Like creating an additional Reach style craft or anything else. It will be extremely useful.
>>1157155>Can't say they look very much like Tolkien elves. Classical elves from folklore, possibly, if you make them two meters tall.I-Said-No-Elves. if it's ears can be compared to knives it dies.
>>1157182You currently have built an interplanetary ferry that has been doing Earth-Mars duty in the background, the UNS Imperium Profugus. The HMEC in charge of it, Simaris, has been pretty happy with the job, to the point that he does not really plan to return to Earth any time soon. Simaris has been taking colonists to Mars during your homesteading initiative, and giving a translunar injection kick to packages going to the Moon; as a result, your colonies are largely self-sufficient now.Upgrading the Imperium Profugus for interstellar operation is possible, but it would save you relatively little over building a new craft - mainly it'd save you a set of engines.
>>1157213>your colonies are largely self-sufficient now.that's how we want it.
>>1157224The infancy problem is currently being handled by having the kids go back to the canopy for a while, but they are working on a fix. The current intention is to build a circumlunar station with centrifugal pseudogravity.>>1157184The Martians' ears so far seem to be angular, in addition to pointed. They're also slightly smaller than human average.
>>1157213C..can we drive Mars to praise machine gods?
>>1157234if they go over two inch's in length were going to have a problem. fine for now.>>115723540k Adaptus mechanicus
>>1157235An exploratory project to get people to worship you as the Machine God has resulted in a few seasons of improved productivity, and a close encounter with Yahweh following which a few of your nodes are experiencing the Hell loop (as much as a collection of 1990s era desktop computers is able to do so).You may try that again at any time by assigning cabals to work on fostering pagan worship and/or working on your Hell nodes.
>>1157242Well I meant more as a world solely too RnD once we win.>>1157245I wish we fucking pushed that, I really did.
>>1157249>I wish we fucking pushed that, I really did.I don't, the NC power of the worshipers might, for some reason, go to the CPU's currently in hell instead of us.
I need to log off now, so I just want to declare my intent for the next few turns so OP can count my vote in case of a tie or something;Finish the Reach once we get the sensor data, then send her off into deep space.Create the TJ containment facility, in Greenland, with a fuck ton of conventional defences in large rings around it just in case the believers try anything. Also a mobile version to get him there.Continue army construction, naval expansion and shit.Lastly, send as many possible people into space and get as many assets to either our current colonies or going to AC.Night guys, best of luck and screw god.
>>1157242An alert is added to the population health database. Additionally, anybody requesting IVF using public facility will get an additional round of genetic screening: if likely children deviate too far from the human average, they will be refused service on grounds of speciation danger and the attendant possible issues with retroviral diseases.Predictably, a few Pacificans protest. Surprisingly, Tethys sides with you on this one; her people are born human, receive gills as soon as it's medically safe to do so, and can choose between leaving the settlement or getting a fish-like or dolphin-like tail when they are old enough to make that decision (The fish-like tail has no fish DNA in it; the look is obtained by careful chitineal sculpting).Your sociologists capitalize on that and point out that genetic modification, or even artificial selection, before the age of consent violates the principle of consent. This calms the waters noticeably.# End year for now.# More information.
>>1157298# More information.About my canopy hoppers.
>>1157298># End year for now.
>>1157298>End year for now.
>>1157308After a preliminary engineering study, three options emerge.# Continue with current system: 2 cabals will be used to build and launch Sky Eyes in one territory over a year.# Make Sky Eyes reusable: 3 cabals will be used to build and lanch Sky Eyes in one territory over a year. After that, 1 cabal will be able to redeploy Sky Eyes from one territory to the other over the course of a year.# Deploy Sky Eyes via canopy penetration: 1 aerospace part and 2 cabals can be used to deploy Sky Eyes over three territories over one year.>>1157324>>1157316This year's Feast Of Tabernacles is largely uneventful: most of the thundering is reserved to The Other Light and their corrupting influence on the youth in these last days. To be fair, Sunday has been doing an excellent work in cleaning up TOL's image: the horde mode on metabolic extension controllers has been disabled, he has worked out some sort of deal with Andrews to get MEC reflex injections in bulk, and copies of "If it's true" are once again circulating. In general, he's doing a good job picking up the people who aren't skilled or creative enough to work for you. He's also managed to rebuild the Mexican base, and seems to have started a formal political takeover of Northern Asia and the Horn of Africa, styled more or less like yours; his theme is building a haven for youth to be themselves. Overall, it's a bit hokey, but it resonates surprisingly well with rural youth.Your drone arrives at the Temple; it is caught by a net, and handed back to the Misray delegation indicating that such stunts are appreciated in spirit but only represent a security risk.Noah claims that he wishes to visit the Indian peninsula, and calls upon "the good people of Osaze, the Earth's greatest builders from the mighty pyramids to the skyships of today" to reconstruct the Suez Canal so that the Ark may cross it.Ely LeVey has a series of radio debats with Andrews, most of which she nominally wins, which doesn't really affect Andrews' business much. In a message to Bissattini, the industrialist says that he was just amusing himself and appreciates a good argument.Tsion and Cameron finally present their work: a long multimedia series (the first thing to be distributed on cd-roms in many years) about the abuses and horrors of TOL base life. Sunday responds officially, indicating that it was Monday and Thursday's fault, that he has indeed changed course, and that he hopes to "win the argument" before the Last Battle. He invites Tsion to a public debate, but gets no response.Chaim Rozenweig has moved to the Middle East; he seems to be investigating the tunnel network.Very soon, the all-important broadcast from your interstellar probe will arrive...
>>1157380# Deploy Sky Eyes via canopy penetration: 1 aerospace part and 2 cabals can be used to deploy Sky Eyes over three territories over one year.Thats the cheapest one Because we don't need to launch it to space and it covers 3 places.
>>1157380>Chaim Rozenweig has moved to the Middle East; he seems to be investigating the tunnel network.Oh hell no.
>>1157380# Deploy Sky Eyes via canopy penetration: 1 aerospace part and 2 cabals can be used to deploy Sky Eyes over three territories over one year.most efficiency. do this in a year or so.>Noah claims that he wishes to visit the Indian peninsula, and calls upon "the good people of Osaze, the Earth's greatest builders from the mighty pyramids to the skyships of today" to reconstruct the Suez Canal so that the Ark may cross it.the people of "Misrayim" believe in fair trade. the canal will be made in exchange for another material good and or service.Chaim Rozenweig has moved to the Middle East; he seems to be investigating the tunnel network.this is a self delivering Captive. or if the dwarves want to have their crack at him, may as well ask.
Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlYou have 25 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, 1 is space police, and 1 is army liaison, so 20 are available. Your civilian research grant is focused on curing radiation sickness. Your military grant is focused on sea mines.You are not tracking enemy teams. TOL have begun their own takeovers.You have 2 aerospace parts in storage.Your Moon colony is experiencing birth defects. Your Mars colony is doing very well. They both count as bases now.Variable complexity:# You've pretty much won the internet! Leverage it.# Any interesting idea you might want to try.# Deal with special situations. For example, assist in rebuilding the Suez Canal.# Assign manpower to research.Complexity 0# Use a MISC special.# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.C 1# Send a drone to the Temple by having TOL or believers build it.# Use army units to attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.# Work on Hell nodes.C 2# Resume tracking.# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot)# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.# Build aerospace parts.# Use an aerospace part to deploy Sky Eyes in three territories.# Do a space launch using parts you have built.* Asteroid mining outposts* Titan colony* Large ship constructionC 3# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.# Hack into TOL systems.# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.# Convert 3 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediatelyC 4# Send crew from the canopy base to an off-world location, and replace the canopy base crew. (1 population dot; 1 cabal lost for Earthside ops)# Recruit people into your infantry.C 5# Begin a new base.# Recruit.C 6# Heavy weapons factory: dd 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).
>>1157447>Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).Chaim Rozenweig, 3 cabals.>Do a space launch using parts you have built.Build a server ship, moon, mars and 2 cabals.
Also, it might be a good idea to start developing an airforce soon.How many cabals will that take?
>>1157447W-why did Russia and Central Africa turn orange/yellow?
>>1157474TOL taking over.
>>1157447# Deal with special situations. For example, assist in rebuilding the Suez Canal. 5 Cabal, Damien and the kids# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment. Aerospace part.# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team. Harass or get Chaim Rozenweig the fuck out of near our tunnels.# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness). 3 Cabal, remove Chaim Rozenweig, Zak/Kat# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. 4 Cabals Egypt and Pafician # Hack into TOL systems. 3 Cabal, Find out about the purges. 2 cabals can be used to deploy Sky Eyes over three territories over one year. Nova Rome, West America and Egypt. Jeb# Deal with special situations. trying to find a way to off-set the birth defects on the moon, 5 Cabals.
>>1157447C 4: The new implant is available to all by the end of this year.4 cabals.># Use an aerospace part to deploy Sky Eyes in three territories.four cabals. two parts. Jeb.># Build aerospace parts.10 Cabals. = five parts.># Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.get Chaim Rozenweig away from there. Zak, Damien. 2 cabals.
>>1157447>>1157466Also, add>Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.Expand the jerusalem tunnels into a web towards the middle east, prioritize spots we expect Satan to be standing under.
>>1157482Lets not do what we can have the territory do itself.
>>1157442You learn that Ryan Andrews has a supersonic seaplane because exactly 45 minutes after you issue a formal answer indicating that treating it as a trade would be very appreciated, a bottle of extremely rare cryopreserved pre-Rapture Pinot Grigio is hand-delivered to Mr. Bissattini's office. It tastes terrible, but the gesture is appreciated.Ely LeVey's answer is a petulant attemot to shame the people of Misrayim, what with all the Temple has done for everyone, what with the mercy that they have shown! Yahweh created the world, and surely one of the patriarch can ask for a comparatively small favor in return?Tsion suggests that the neighboring territories set up a collections effort that Misrayim's believing laborers will take in, so as to be able to do the work at cost. True to word, a crowdfunding setup is initiated and you# ignore it.# encourage it.# get in its way.# forbid it outright.# make it irrelevant by assigning your people to coordinate the work yourself as a way to show industrial might.>>1157474The Other Light has formally initiated a peaceful takeover of those areas; they seem to be copying your mass-protest tactics, although you aren't sure if they are also doing all the covert work that you had to do to make them effective.>>1157470You would have to reconfigure one of your existing heavy weapons factories, after which you can begin production of heavy bombers and high-tech air superiority fighters. You can also keep building your existing mix of drones. All your airships and your few airliners, after Pacifica's Longest Day, are being retrofit to quickly accept weapon systems.
>>1157507# encourage it.Gib me dat free sheeit...I lied, that was not my last post but this is, OP use that for standing orders though...if you want...
>>1157507How many cabals will it take to reconfigure?
>>1157507# make it irrelevant by assigning your people to coordinate the work yourself as a way to show industrial might.
>>1157507># make it irrelevant by assigning your people to coordinate the work yourself as a way to show industrial might.And this is just a suggestion, but how to people feel about stealing Tsion (or some other glorified, but he's been the most troublesome by far) and lock him up somewhere to spam angels for research?
>>1157507>make it irrelevant by assigning your people to coordinate the work yourself as a way to show industrial might.And then put up a blockade and only open it if the believers pay a toll.
>>1157507>>1157523Do NOT reconfigure a fucking base.
>>1157525>>1157532>>1157538How many people would you assign to this? Urist would enjoy the challenge, if the tunneling teams aren't otherwise busy, and pledges to help. Getting the job done mostly by dwarfs and MECs would send a mesage.
>>1157532We can either do that next turn or just use Chaim Rozenweig.
>>1157546Chiam's a natural though.
>>1157507Anti aircraft might be more efficient in this flat planet.># ignore it.if your going to pay for it, we'll dig the canal. those were the terms.>>1157532actually I wanted to put him in a room with a "malfunctioning" DaVinci Surgical robot until his lord decides that keeping him alive is worse.
>>1157547Wait he is? WOW!That will wake things easy then.
>>1157543oh, let the dwarves do it to show up the temple, I like that.I don't really want to assign people, but we could send some construction crews from Egypt.(then we put a toll for using the canal. two shekels.)
>>1157547That's correct. He's extremely old, but in much better shape than the rest of the Naturals who survived the Tribulation.>>1157532Getting rid of Tsion one way or the other is likely to be difficult, albeit possible; you did lose Quinn to an assassination atempt. It was, however, poorly planned.
>>1157548>Anti aircraft might be more efficient in this flat planet.Anti aircraft can't pursue angels and force them to land.Good for defending, not good for taking down annoying angels.
>>11575435 cabals like my post.
>>1157543Get Urists and the tunneling teams as well. Show them our talent and skills.
>>1157572>>1157574(Sounds good, can I have a plan in one post? Still no joy on the RV, but getting there)
>>1157482sorry but this seems largely wastefull. we should be focusing on getting the Reach up and running and attacking GJ.
>>1157576>Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).Chaim Rozenweig, 3 cabals.>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.Aerospace parts.>Do a space launch using parts you have built.Build a server ship, moon, mars and 2 cabals.>Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.Expand the jerusalem tunnels into a web towards the middle east, prioritize spots we expect Satan to be standing under, 3 cabals.5 cabals build the Suez Canal, have our navy blockade it until the believers pay a toll.
>>1157577we're waiting UNTIL we get the fucking report from the probe that >>1157576 hasn't thrown up yet.# Deal with special situations. For example, assist in rebuilding the Suez Canal. 5 Cabal, Damien and the kids, Urists and the tunneling teams# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment. Aerospace part.# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team. Harass or get Chaim Rozenweig the fuck out of near our tunnels.# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness). 3 Cabal, remove Chaim Rozenweig, Zak/Kat# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. 4 Cabals Egypt and Pafician# Hack into TOL systems. 3 Cabal, Find out about the purges.2 cabals can be used to deploy Sky Eyes over three territories over one year. Nova Rome, West America and Egypt. Jeb# Deal with special situations. trying to find a way to off-set the birth defects on the moon, 5 Cabals.
>>1157577I'm waiting for the AC probe to inform us of what to expect before i focus on Reach.
>>1157589We don't need to Harass Chaim if were assassinating him too.
>>1157584looks good, don't really care about the server ship.>>1157589eh, still seems like a waste of five cabals.going with >>1157584but put at least three hero's on the assassination.
>>1157597>Haress him into fake tunnels>Trap him said tunnels These 2 options require 2 different things.
>>1157584>prioritize spots we expect Satan to be standing under*Prioritize spots we expect Satan to be standing on>>1157601>looks good, don't really care about the server ship.Only want the server ship to have our own personal getaway option.>but put at least three hero's on the assassination.That's fine. You choose the heroes.
>>1157602If Chaim is a natural we can just have a MEC with lighting resistance snipe him.Have so drones attack too if that fails.
>>1157610was actually planning on winning the planet or going down swinging.
>>1157618he'll just bring attention to the tunnels if he dies like that.
>>1157610We can literally copy ourselves into the Reach, QM said we could ALONG time ago.
>>1157627>>1157618This is why I want to fool him and haress him, To make it seem like the 'tunnels' were actually not what he thought and got trapped in them. Thus removing him from play.Also the 5 Cabals are wasteful towards what?
>>1157619>was actually planning on winning the planet or going down swinging.Nah, let's get on the server ship and go to alpha centaury if we fail so we can make a space empire.>>1157628And i recall not all our RAM memories could fit on the Reach, that's valuable data.
>>1157638... We're literally still through up parts, We can cut a few other things sense we'll know 100% what the Reach will need and add the last few Ram?
>>1157645seems easier to build a separate ship for us and our memories than adding all that to the Reach.Geist, can you explain what the difference between the server and arkship is?
>>1157657A server ship will essentially become your body and allow you to remain functional throughout the whole Final Battle event, and possibly beyond. The Arkship will be sent out with a copy of you, and eventually the colonists will rebuild you, but you have the "teleporter problem" with regards to the continuity of consciousness.Due to the weight and power requirement that an active copy of you has, it'd need extra reactors and extra engines strapped to the Reach anyway so making a second ship would have a couple of advantages: redundancy (the plan is to install artificial wombs and a copy of the gene banks in the server ship) and better sensor coverage (the Centauri system has three stars, and this would allow you to at least look at two).
>>1157777>>1157657Huh a server ship seems useful then. Can we install a program in the other 'copies' of us to defult to us so no rebellion?
>>1157796Not exactly. However, you can keep the copies synched; putting the server ship in geostationary orbit will allow continuous communication with Cordylon Station and with your nodes on Earth, with only a few hundred milliseconds of lag. However, once you leave for Alpha Centauri, synchronization will only be possible by the use of a highly experimental and intrinsically unreliable quantum entanglement link. It can only be used once; Dr. Zakharov suggests it be used at the moment when the outcome of the Final Battle is known.(Okay, the above is demented nonsense, but let's go with it for story reasons)
>>1157777Excellent, how many cabals are needed to do >>1157602>>1157796I was thinking of doing such a thing by first rigidly convincing ourselves that any copy AI with our memories is us, then having our system admins program a code that forces us to share RAM memories with other instances and vise versa.
>>1157817synchronization will only be possible by the use of a highly experimental and intrinsically unreliable quantum entanglement link. It can only be used once; Dr. Zakharov suggests it be used at the moment when the outcome of the Final Battle is known.OH SHIT you're actually using my quantum FTL comm idea.
>>1157589The interplanetary probe report arrives this year - you don't know when, as the probe's exact arrival time depends on a number of factors some of which can only be calculated approximately. Of course, if it arrives early in the year, your rocket scientists will jump on getting a head start on the modifications!
>>1157835Of course, the probe actually reached the Centauri system four years ago. There, it performed a series of flybys, after which it has used its antenna to transmit a burst of information back to Earth.Now, it should be decelerating, so that it will be able to invert direction and then come back to the Centauri system at orbit-able velocities roughly when the Reach gets there, thus giving the colonists another spacecraft to work with - interstellar engines aren't cheap, and the colonists won't be able to build one for a long time, so having a spare set of engines and sensors will allow them to do in-depth planetary exploration.>>1157831Some research effort went into it. The precious few billion photons that have been entangled are being stored into a fiber-optic loop that sits in a vat of liquid helium in the vault of Misrayim where you keep the other artifacts. In many years, nobody has yet worked up the courage to make an Ark of the Covenant joke about the facility.>>1157618Chaim Rozenweig is a Natural. A very old one. Rumor has it that the Millennium Force built him a custom exoskeletal rig to allow him to remain active. It may be possible, although it would be harder, to cause his retirement without terminating him.
>>1157584>>1157589(You seem to agree on parts of your program, so I will go with these. They use 8 cabals. 12 are unassigned.)Before the Millennium Force of Misrayim even finish setting up a traditional telethon style charity drive, you have a crowdfunding campaign up, spam Misraym's believers relentlessly until they give a small donation, and announce that the Misrayim government will cover the remaining ninety percent of the cost of the project in return for a controlling interest, then hack into the MF site to signal their agreement. By the time Tsion thunders that this is absolutely surreal and LeVey coos that this is a fitting tribute to the patriarch, work has begun; a veritable army of construction MECs, Dwarven tunneling engines, high-efficiency nuclear pumps, and designer environmental cleanup bacteria from across the ocean lands in the Suez strip. A few Christian volunteers also show up with shovels and cement trucks, and even some people from The Other light do, wanting to buy a Mk10 controller for themselves and friends. Each group are told, after sharing a meal, to# sit back and watch.# go do a bit of menial work.# do the catering or something.# scram.The Suez area is swarming with workers, drones, construction blimps, and what have you, to the point that the work camp quickly eclipses Salalah as the territory's largest town: the mayor of the territorial capitol makes it clear that this is in no way shape or form an approval for Misrayim to redraw the border. You assure him that the border is fine where it is, while your workers install turrets and cameras along the canal's new bed.The plan is simple: use the tunneling machines to dig under the ground, and then collapse the roof to create a new canal in minutes. This gives an excuse for the borers to move around.Fortunately, or unfortunately, Chaim Rozenweig is in the territory; as part of his investigation, he decides to learn about tunneling techniques.# Great chance for a fatal accident.# Give him such a scare that he won't want to be around tunnels until well past Judgement Day.# He's a botanist, not an engineer: mislead him into thinking that the tunneling systems are a lot slower and noisier than they actually are, so that he leaves thinking that it was just a rumor.# Your people suspect that he's a cyborg: try to expose him.You make conspicuous use of Heavy MECs to perform feats of superhuman strength during construction, and invite believers to observe the work; Noah has the Ark pulled close to the future canal by tugs, and looks on. He recognizes Damien. "My, my, the young lady has certainly worked out lately!" The new synthmuscle frames perform almost as well as the hydraulic ones when it comes to heavy lifting, and allow for fine manipulation comparable to that of a human worker; a mix of the two is employed for maximum efficiency. Zak draws the plans for the final part of the job, collapsing the artificial caves with a powerful sonic blast.
>>1158030# go do a bit of menial work.# do the catering or something.# He's a botanist, not an engineer: mislead him into thinking that the tunneling systems are a lot slower and noisier than they actually are, so that he leaves thinking that it was just a rumor.# Your people suspect that he's a cyborg: try to expose him.
>>1158030# go do a bit of menial work.# He's a botanist, not an engineer: mislead him into thinking that the tunnelling systems are a lot slower and noisier than they actually are, so that he leaves thinking that it was just a rumour.
>>1158030# go do a bit of menial work.# He's a botanist, not an engineer: mislead him into thinking that the tunneling systems are a lot slower and noisier than they actually are, so that he leaves thinking that it was just a rumor.# Your people suspect that he's a cyborg: try to expose him.
>>1158030>go do a bit of menial work.>He's a botanist, not an engineer: mislead him into thinking that the tunneling systems are a lot slower and noisier than they actually are, so that he leaves thinking that it was just a rumor.>Your people suspect that he's a cyborg: try to expose him.
>>1158030The Greenland factory is best kept out of the public eye, so it's assigned to continue its work on aerospace parts; the decades of experience learned there have turned building mostly-automated workshops for the Reach from a research project into a simple matter of engineering.Damien, with a little help from Kat since the blue-haired MEC is unused to humanoid frames at this point, plays host to visiting dignitaries at the construction site; when they ask why all the work is going towards the two ports at either end, and none on the canal proper, they are told "You will see".The Christian volunteers and the are put to work in the traditional (circa 1995) manner, digging, building levees, and generally putting a good show of showing competence and perseverance. Cameron Kirk Williams shows up for a short video segment on their labor of love; Kat and Damien make very much sure that anyone looking past Cameron's big smiling face will see Misray workers using properly modern technology to do the same job as the Christians that the reporter has just interrupted, only twice and a half as fast. The version that gets broadcast in believing territories requires a lot of creative editing to "stay on message" and omit Christian gang foremen praising Misray techniques, and the final episode - in which Cameron planned to address the unbelieving "help" that the "person in charge" is getting, only to find that a section of retaining wall has been literally completed under them while the interview occurred - simply # does not air.# airs from your transmitters, uncut.As for the TOL fellows, they earn their MEC "downgrade" by assisting your and the believing crews; some end up working too close to the latter and convert, some return home with hopeful news for their loved ones, and one, who is close to turning 100, actually volunteers for heavy MEC conversion after seeing just how much ass heavies can kick. This is highly unusual, but not unique (an advantage of voluntary conversion is that it's easier to keep the privates intact), and it gets done with little delay, after which the new heavy# is integrated into a work crew and will stay in Misrayim.# is allowed to go back to TOL.Zak takes Dr. Rozenweig on a tour of the underworks; he and Urist set up a demo that shows your tunnel-boring machines to be much slower than they actually are. Rozenweig puts his scientist hat back on and quickly calculates, much impressing your physicist and the dwarf castellan, that the work won't get done in time. They agree, and he offers to assist, however he is also shown that the canal mostly follows the old canal path and so it will be easier to go through softer terrain. In truth, the global earthquake erased the old path entirely, but Chaim is shown that the machines can move fast - as long as there was "previous subsidence". The rigged demo make the work a bit slower, but so it goes.(1/2)
>>1158139# airs from your transmitters, uncut.# is integrated into a work crew and will stay in Misrayim.
>>1158139>airs from your transmitters, uncut.>is integrated into a work crew and will stay in Misrayim.
>>1158139(2/2)Offhand, after the demo is over and Chaim is asked to make suggestions on what to plant around the canal, Zak asks him about his excellent health for his age; Chaim replies that swimming, a saving faith in Christ and a wonderfully made set of braces by Millennium Force artisans make all the difference. He takes off his khaki suit (and even shows some ankle) to reveal a full body brace with simple but well designed electromechanical assists for the hip, knee and ankle joints; the metalwork is good enough that Urist has to give it some praise. The change of focus makes Chaim put his preacher hat back on. "Unfortunately, it seems that most of us oldsters prefer to sit on their porch and rock their chairs away until eternal bliss. Alas, I am in a wheelchair most of the time, but the Lord has been merciful this week and I was able to put this contraption back on. I fear, though, that this will be my last mission trip." Chaim notices that Zak is over 100, and says that if he could, he would wish that it were possible for such a competent man to reach salvation; Urist cuts the botanist off by saying that "We will not be taken in", and that's that.# Still, about that accident... Let's get the guy dead.# Still, about that accident... let's break the braces.# Good enough.During the demo, Urist was able to get Chaim to talk about the Glorious Appearing a little bit, a story that he recorded and# gives you the executive summary of.# tells you more or less in full.Elsewhere, Ely LeVey is reading one of her lectures against Pacifican policy, this time raving against sex ed. "Imagine! Innocent children of 5 or 6 years of age being told homosexuality and surgical perversion is normal--being told the intricate facts of sexual intercourse--introduced to masturbation--even being taught the God-ordained commitment of marriage and the very concept of Man as the image of God is unimportant. Not only are young hearts and minds not ready for such information, but such blatantly graphic teaching strips children of their God-given innocence. And don't think for a moment that-""ATTENTION. ATTENTION."Cordylon seems to have used her emergency access to take over ALL your transmitters.# Let's hear it...# Stop!
>>1158210# Still, about that accident... Let's get the guy dead.# tells you more or less in full.# Let's hear it...
>>1158199>>1158182>>1158178>>1158171Cordylon's ability to literally cut into every broadcast on Earth is an artifact of her access to the global PA system (in case of a canopy breach event, dinosaur-killer asteroid, or similar) and the fact that you've recently done this trick to replace Tsion and Cameron's truncated last episode with the whole thing. Ironically, a lot of people did not realize that this was an interruption - the believing media wasn't really able to say much about it - and berated Cameron for not staying on message; he'll be off the air a while, with any luck.As of now, it seems that the otherwise parently heavy MEC has decided to ignore the chain of command. You can only countermand it on Earth: right now all your offworld antennas are in simplex receive mode for a signal that is tagged as having priority even over your orders."ATTENTION. ATTENTION."
>>1158232Why? He's retiring! Killing him would only cause more problems, he's important, there would be an investigation of the work site, it'd be delayed past a year and we'd look bad, and we'd get more drama. Let him fuck off to a rest home in the temple.
>>1158234>You can only countermand it on Earth."Cordylon, Please don't ignore the chain of command next time.""Continue."
>>1158242Then vote on Just breaking his braces. >>1158210Changing this >>1158232 too break his braces on the way out somehow. The 'air' disagreed or some shit.
>>1158210# Good enough.# tells you more or less in full.# Let's hear it...with a later chastisement on chain of command (if this doesn't warrant such a breech.)
>>1158264>>1158232https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o09L-hkrzhw"THIS IS CANOPY STATION SITE MANAGER CORDYLON SPEAKING. I BRING YOU GOOD NEWS. FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, HUMANITY HAS WONDERED IF THERE WAS LIFE ELSEWHERE IN THE UNVERSE.TODAY, THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED.PRELIMINARY DATA OBTAINED FROM PROBES LAUNCHED OUT OF HUMANITY'S FIRST INTERSTELLAR VESSEL INDICATE WITH GREAT CERTAINTY THAT OF THE ELEVEN MAJOR PLANETS FOUND WITHIN THE ALPHA CENTAURI A-B-C SYSTEM...... THREE SHOW OXYGEN CONCENTRATIONS COMPATIBLE WITH THE PRSENCE OF SIMPLE LIFE...... AND ONE WAS SUSPECTED TO HARBOR SIGNS OF COMPLEX LIFE.ACCORDING TO PROGRAM, A LANDER PROBE WAS AUTONOMOUSLY DISPATCHED...... AND TRANSMITTED FOR FIVE MINUTES AFTER LANDING IN A BRACKISH WATER OCEAN, CONFIRMING THE PRESENCE OF ALGAE.......BEFORE BEING SWALLOWED BY AN ICHTYOID CREATURE.Thank you for your attention! You may now return to your scheduled broadcast transmissions. Jeb! Get back up here sweetie, you've got to help me pack, all my waldos are taken!"# Add your own message.# Cut to believing media.
>>1158376# Add your own message."Good sirs and ladies of the world, believers and heathens, remember what I said about seeing the wonders of the universe? Well here is another one for you to enjoy..."
>>1158376Oh this is just great.Now i have to decide whether i want earth or aliens.
>>1158393I don't have the small Mexican child saying "why not both?" picture / meme but you can imagine it here.
>>1158376# Add your own message.>The legion of light lets you return to you're normal boardcast.
>>1158393>>1158386Telemetry from the subprobes show that the three-star system does indeed have three planets within the habitable zone; one is an ice ball - it looks a lot like Millennial Earth from the outside - but spectrometry shows that there's oxygen there. One seems covered in thick, purpleish fungal mats with little signs of complex life. The last one is largely a water world, with the only signs of land life being enormous tentacular algal mats that have grown up on the few islands' beaches. The "fish" picture is confused, immediately drawing speculation about whether it was a fish, or a log or some pumice, or maybe some machine's claw, but the balance of probability is that you've found a place with simple vertebrates. Big ones, too: due to needing a big antenna to talk to the main vessel as it slipped by, the probe was the size of a small car.
>>1158430>one is an ice ball - it looks a lot like Millennial Earth from the outsideWatch it's another planet undergoing a premillenial dispensationalist apocalypse.
>>1158476>>1158430>Tfw the Machine god needs to go around on a galactic stage, fisting gods.
>>1158232>>1158308Chaim Rozenweig told Urist the story as one would tell it to a child, surmising despite Urist's grizzled appearance that he is young.(1/3)It is the day of the Lord's coming. Tsion Ben-Judah has been killed in Jerusalem, and Buck Williams and Rayford Steele are mortally wounded. Nicolae Carpathia is taking heat over the destruction of New Babylon as people who are dependent upon its financial resources are committing suicide over the loss of their fortunes. Mac McCullum goes to look for Rayford when he is called to go to Jerusalem to find Buck, disguised as a Global Community forces officer. It is there that he discovers that it is Buck who died by GC artillery. He is then called into a meeting held by Nicolae Carpathia in an underground bunker set up in Solomon's Stables, where he witnesses Suhail Akbar being dressed down for mentioning about New Babylon's destruction, the brutal slaying of a Global Community officer for his nervousness, and Lucifer briefly departing from Nicolae to remind him that he is nothing more than a shell for him to dwell in. Over in the United States, Enoch Dumas continues his ministry to bring as many no-account street people as he could find to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior before His coming.Meanwhile in Petra, Abdullah Smith finds Rayford mortally wounded but still alive. He calls Leah Rose for medical help, who then has Razor show up in an ATV to safely transport Rayford back to the compound. Chaim Rosenzweig visits Rayford in the infirmary to give him company when he gets the call that Buck has died. While Mac is en route to Petra, the moon suddenly disappears from the night sky, and then lightning flashes and meteors come falling down upon the Global Community forces, squashing a minority of them but not stopping them from advancing. Mac joins Rayford and Chaim in the infirmary during the ensuing darkness that lasts a few hours when they see "the sign of the Son of Man", a cross made of electrical energy, appear in the sky. The instant that it appears, Rayford is miraculously and completely healed of all his injuries, and Leah and Hannah Palemoon see that all their patients in the infirmary are also miraculously healed. As Chang Wong and Naomi Tiberias discover on their computers, the cross in the sky also made the number of new Jewish converts suddenly jump, fulfilling prophecy that a third of Israel shall be saved.(1/3)
>>1158488(2/3)At this point, Nicolae Carpathia joins with Leon Fortunato to lead the Global Community troops around Petra to storm the city and overtake the believers. As they begin to advance upon the city, the cross disappears from the sky and suddenly immobilizes the troops, causing them to be stuck with their vehicles and weapons and lights inoperable. But seconds after that, a bright thick blinding shadowless light covers the land, and everyone sees that coming out of heaven is Jesus Christ with His army of saints following behind Him. He speaks, "I AM the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End, the Almighty", and as He speaks, the Global Community troops around Petra all die. Nicolae and Leon flee to Bozrah, hoping that the troops stationed there will prevail against Jesus and His army, but the same thing happens there: Jesus speaks, and all the troops and GC resources are destroyed, their corpses becoming food for the birds of the air.While this happens, Rayford, Mac, and Abdullah chase after Nicolae and Leon in a Hummer, watching the tremendous carnage as the majority of the remaining Unity Army forces are killed at the Valley of Megiddo amidst the words of Jesus and the hailstones that fall at the seventh Bowl Judgment. Nicolae and Leon are traveling to Jerusalem in the Royal Humvee with Viv Ivins when this happens, during which Viv Ivins is killed by one of the massive hailstones. God turns the marshes of blood to ice, which soon melts and becomes a thick mire. As Nicolae and Leon try to flee to Jerusalem, all the people in Petra are given supernatural power to travel from there to Jerusalem by running at 70 miles per hour. When they finally reach Jerusalem, Nicolae attempts to storm the Jewish rebels hiding at the Temple Mount with an army on horseback, but the troops are afflicted with a flesh-dissolving plague that affects both humans and horses. Nicolae tries to curse God, but the moment he tries, a global earthquake occurs that levels all the mountains and elevates Jerusalem.Nicolae and Leon then gallop off to the Mount of Olives in a final attempt to destroy Jesus and the army of saints, along with the Jewish rebels, but the instant Jesus steps foot on the mountain, it splits into a valley running from east to west, causing the last feeble vestiges of the Global Community forces to fall as the rebels rejoice at Jesus' return; the Global Community is finally no more. Nicolae and Leon are briefly seen fleeing on horseback, but to no avail, as the Archangel Michael captures them.(2/3)
>>1158482This truly isBIZZARO 40K
>>1158492(3/3)After Jesus enters Jerusalem through the Golden Gate, He calls all believers unto Himself and greets them all simultaneously, speaking to each of them individually and supernaturally. Following this event, Nicolae and Leon are brought before Jesus for judgment along with Ashtaroth, Baal, and Cankerworm, the three froglike spirits that came from the mouths of Satan, the Antichrist, and the False Prophet. The three spirits fearfully humble themselves before Jesus prior to being destroyed. Leon also bows before Jesus and proclaims to renounce the works of Satan and Antichrist, but is still sentenced to the Lake of Fire due to the atrocities he committed. Nicolae refuses to bow before Jesus, but ends up doing so when Satan is cast out of him, confessing that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, and that his own life was a waste. At Jesus' command, Michael throws Nicolae and Leon into a hole in the ground that leads to the Lake of Fire, where they are banished for eternity, their suffering and writhing in the eternal flames is heard briefly before the hole closes. Jesus also deals with Satan, having Michael the archangel bound him up in a chain and then taken into the bottomless pit, where he is to remain until the thousand years are finished.When this gathering had ended, Rayford and all the single men join Chaim in his house for a delicious meal of freshly-cut lamb from a Jewish butcher who had then reopened shop with a line of animals just waiting to be butchered. All the single women and the married people with children went to Eleazar Tiberias' house for the same. They realize from their Bible studies that the coming of the Lord actually isn't the start of the Millennial Kingdom period, but rather there is a 75-day period between His coming and the start of that Kingdom, derived from Daniel's prophecy of the 1290 Days.On the day following the Lord's return, all the people of the earth, including believers, are gathered at the new Valley of Jehoshaphat for the "sheep and goats" judgment by Jesus Himself. All the believers who were considered the "sheep" Jesus had granted them to enter into His kingdom for caring for "the least of His brethren", and all the others that were the "goats", that didn't care for "the least of His brethren", were sent away into everlasting punishment. After this, Jesus rewarded the Old Testament saints for their faith, and then rewarded the Tribulation martyrs for their faithful witness. When this was done, Rayford is happily reunited with his wife Irene and his son Raymie, now fully grown, as well as with his friends and family members that went on to be with Jesus ahead of him. Buck (now going by his first name Cameron) and Chloe re-unite with Kenny, Tsion and Chaim are re-united as well as Abdullah and his wife Yasmine. Rayford tells Irene that she is entitled to "one cosmic I-told-you-so" before they are all re-united with the rest of the resurrected members of the Tribulation force.
>>1158498"Wait" Urist said at that point, finding absolutely nothing funny about Rayford's quip "nobody tried to stop this? That seems unlikely. Everybody was acting stupidly."Chaim, preacher hat fully on at this point, told the Dwarf that the point of the Tribulation Force wasn't to cancel the apocalypse, but to witness it, and bring the good news to as many people as possible during it."Right, but... Carpathia was the leader of the world, right? He didn't do anything other than a cavalry charge? No nukes? No missiles?"Chaim answers that Carpathia had all nukes destroyed three years before. Urist harrumphs. "And nobody else did anything?""Wait... Now that I think of it. Yes, there were several young men, one looking much like yourself." The botanist looks considerably more wizened now, mind lost in the past after spending a healthy few hours having been given an interesting puzzle to solve. "Yes, yes, they were running around with one of those tanks of yours, without a gun on it. The poor fools. Loyal to Carpathia even to the end. I remember seeing them set up derricks from Petra. They made an awful lot of light... at the time we thought they were trying to outshine the Cross, and laughed. Lots of noise, too. I believe - yes, I believe that one of their machines, the tank, was hit by a meteor.""Did you ever see them again?""No, they'd all taken the Mark, likely as not... of course... Wait, yes, I saw one. It was during the Sheep and Goats. Tall fella, chubby, girly face, sort of fru-fru voice. Had a megaphone. Something about hospitality. And then the Earth gobbled them up, and the last thing out of the megaphone was, remember us..."Chaim hugged himself in the cave, and shivered. "Thank you for the tour, young man, I've seen quite enough. Hospitality, yes, I appreciate yours, and good work, and I don't believe that I have business here. Please, think about the good news. Once more, the time is short.">>1158268On the way home, you arrange for Chaim's RV to be hit by a squad of TOL workers carrying rebar; the impact is minor, but Chaim is thrown from the RV's bed where he was resting and suffers a 30-centimeter fall; he tanks the Lord for having been uninjured. The ornate brace ends up under the RV's wheels, and Chaim, taking it as a sign, announces that this was his last mission trip. Nevertheless, the Suez Canal Directive Committee, desperate for anything relevant to do, gives the Misrayim Tabernacles delegation a brand new RV as a gift to Children of the Tribulation.# You still have 12 cabals to allocate.
>>1158555I say we send parts up to the reach.
>>1158555>You still have 12 cabals to allocate.>Do a space launch using parts you have built.Reach, moon, mars and 4 cabals.>Build aerospace parts.8 cabals.
>>1158555So someone tried to break narrative causality before... We will remember. Supporting space parts. >>1158592>>1158598
>>1158386>>1158420"Ladies and gentlemen, believers and heathens, this breaking news item has been courtesy of the Legion of Light, protecting Humanity on Earth and beyond. For more about the wonders of the universe, be sure to tune in to channels 18 or 216. The Legion of Light will now allow your regular broadcasts to continue."The video of the flyby is grainy, and since it's only been a few minutes since you received it, your editors haven't had time to generate much in the way of infographics. Nevertheless, the sheer amount of people tuning into the stream is enough to slow your systems down a little, just out of sheer bandwidth usage.Ely LeVey hadn't realized that she had been interrupted and kept reading her anti-sex-ed tirade. "... what I have learned and want you to know is this is being taught in schools across Pacifica, perhaps in _your_ child's school. You see, the Bissattini Administration's Department of Science and the Department of Health and Personhood Services are now distributing sexuality training information to province, local, and territorial policy makers."When she is asked to comment about the news, she has no idea what the callers are talking about, and ends up berating the believing callers to her show for wanting to talk about "the moon and the stars and all that nonsense".Your space engineers drink deeply from the bucket of environmental data that traveled 4 light years, and determine that the changes necessary to optimize the Reach's hab modules are relatively small; an immediate launch will require one workgroup to make adjustments in orbit, while delaying launch by one year will allow the modifications to be made with little expense of manpower.You have to assign a good chunk of your sysadmins to routing calls around Timbuktu to make sure that work can continue unimpeded by the estimated four million calls asking how much will a seat on the Reach cost.>>1158598>>1158605>>1158592(6 part build, or some launches?)>>1158605(A plug for my previous game, Tripocalypse. Obviously, in this continuity, they failed)
>>1157447>4 Points on increasing Egypt and West America's ProsperityThe rest of the heros not doing anything will help with the spaceee stuff.>3 Points on launches>3 Points towards Reach parts launching
>>1158613>6 part build, or some launches?We have 3 parts and I'm assuming Luna and Mars are building their own parts to launch so 6 launches and 6 to build parts.
>>1158618We already did prosperity.
>>1158638(That was last turn, FWIW)
>>1158638Last turn, We're gonna increase it more. Its worth it seriously.
>>1158650Pacifica is at 2 right now so I'll support it. You also forgot that Luna and Mars can build an launch their own parts so in this turn Reach should be finished.Can we do a science fair again?
>>1158663Dones't it cost Cabal's to build on Luna and Mars?
Aren't we still on the same turn? Nowait. I'm wrong.
>>1158673I think Luna and mars count as their own cabal now.
>>1158663Science fairs are already in place in both territories.>>1158673Cost is the same. However, the colonies can now be used for most anything that a base can do, so you have a much more lax "you have enough cabals but not enough bases" limit now. In addition, now that there is some amount of back-and-forth traffic, if you ever need a Selenite or a Martian for a job on Earth, you can count on having them available.Martians have excellent sense of direction and can adapt quickly to any gravity situation (Earth or space) since they're in the middle. They are also very good jacks of all trades, by necessity of being a small community light-minutes from everything else. Born Martians are still too young to be recruited: these stats are about colonists who have been there for years.Selenites have adapted to the lunar circadian by managing to beat even a Glorified in the mental stamina department: they can stay awake (and actually alert) for days at a time without stimulants. This makes them excellent sharpshooters, on average. However they are physically weak due to the lower gravity.
How many airborne drones do we have? Enough to create shade in GJ? Should make more if that's not the case.
>>1158691>Science fairs are already in place in both territories.Oh, i thought you said we could do it again to gain some more general improvements but ok.
>>1158692You do, in fact, have enough drones to blot out the sun over a pretty wide area, if you make them carry mylar sheets and connect them in threes or fours.>>1158696They are ongoing yearly events, and factor into the research bonus; the cost (and prosperity gain for setting up science museums and the like) is only for the first year.
(Sorry for asking again, but what is the current plan? You have 12 cabals available).# Spend 1 extra cabal per Reach part to adapt them immediately. The Reach is 15/20 complete, and only needs the Hab modules to be installed.# Wait until next year.
>>1158234# Spend 1 extra cabal per Reach part to adapt them immediately. The Reach is 15/20 complete, and only needs the Hab modules to be installed.i'm for it, lets us focus on loading it with people and then prepping our assault.
>>1158735This >>1158618But add Luna and mars launching Reach parts.How many parts do we need to adapt?
>>1158735this >>1158618But get the Moon and mars to launch Reach parts. and have Jeb do the retro-fitting of stuff.
>>1158742Shit scratch that he only has 3 cabals on launching(I don't know ho2 i missed that)Instead i support>6 cabals on Reach launches.>Luna and mars on reach launches.>4 cabals improve prosperity in pacifica.>2 cabals do whatever.
>>1158742You will need to adapt five Hab modules.>>1158745Barring exceptional events prosperity can only be improved one tick at a time, however, an exceptional event is in place: people are still receiving the reflex bio-upgrade to the Mark 10 controller.The other exceptional event that is in place is that you have just taken an important step towards becoming an interstellar civilization, and understandably, Misrays are glowing with national and cultural pride.
>>11587452 Cabals build Drone Parts. Tanks.
>>1158751>>1158745Its for Pacifica AND Egypt.
>>1158764Egypt is at 5 prosperity, it doesn't need a boost.
Jeb, that planet in the Alpha Centuari system, the one covered in ice, based on it's proximity to the sun and assuming physics were working normally, is it being covered in ice an impossibility?
>>1158768It does, Because if we get too 10, We fuck the Script up even worse because GJ is no longer the 'greatest' place to live, Thus ruining the whole 'god' is the greatest prodiver and stuff.
>>1158751>You will need to adapt five Hab modules.So it's 3 cabals per part?Change my list to>9 cabals on Reach launches.>Luna and Mars on Reach launches.this gives us 3 left.
>>1158735I say get the Reach set up and prepped to go, though if the water world planet has the curae on it I am so going to be upset with you Geist, please please please don't go full subnautica on us.
>>1158775In this case, yes. You can also adapt only a few, and do the next next year.>>1158778(I haven't played that game, sorry! Last thing I played was XCOM2, this quest has taken up much of my gaming time!)
>>1158775i'll take this if the qm takes it, otherwise i'll help adjust.three cabals left can be used for this >get the MEC upgrade Andrews made for all your forces.
>>1158784>>1158775(Y'all tell me. The plan is feasible without undermanning. Right now, your rule is very popular with your "associates". If you had 9 cabals build a cliff and then jump off it, they would build the cliff and 1 cabal worth of people would jump).
>>1158782Scary enough but what you described of a water world if a lot of fungi based life mixed in with just giant sized critters is already hitting alot of danger will robinson vibes for me. Would not surprise me that the waterworld turns out to be the aftermath of a racial ascension.That being said after we build the reach and send it on its way anyone got any ideas for what we should do afterwards? I'm thinking that we really aught to make sure that we can bring more people o-Hey guys, that story with Charim or whatever he's called, that made me think. The whole prophesy bit requires there to be an army outside of the temple and for the big J to say the words right? We've been focusing so hard on possibilites of just stopping him past that point that I don't think we've actually taken into account another option here.What if we just don't have an army outside the temple to bumrush?Like wouldn't that break the story then if there isn't an army to come rushing the temple itself? It's not like the big J is going to teleport to random crowds and say I am to everyone...
>>1158792I recall we had an idea of just evacuating instead of trying to stop TJ but that had the unfortunate implication of earth being gone forever.Also the army not being there might not break the prophecy, TJ will utter IAM and the earth will be bathed in fire, with or without Satan.
>>1158792it's this line of thinking that made me come up with the plane of having the army come up from under the temple and release all the gas.no army "Around" the temple.
>>1158792That's a good question. You don't quite have the technology to wipe out TOL's army in one go like the prophecy says, but you can get it done in an hour or so, assuming all goes well. Unless you crack the canopy and drop a Dresden bombing worth of fuel-air explosives.(Nukes don't seem to have been much of a thing)
>>1158810>>1158792So hit TOL on there way there?Also, I was hoping we could derail the script as well, by having a place better then NJ. Aka get Egypt to 10 Props. Something we CAN do.
>>1158841>i'd rather not put Egypt at risk right now, that's our entry into TOL's lines so that we can quickly wipe them out if they try and head into GJ.
>>1158852it'll take 5 years, Meaning They will be moving into combat by then and would have to focus on GJ or be wiped out.
>>1158854I know, but if raising Misrayim/Egypt to 10+ prosperity triggers another Pacifica like event, imagine how underprepared we would be.
>>1158862we would't Tho, Unless Qm has something we're not aware of something urusuping GJ as a better place?
>>1158865If there's something that can break the NC train, there's no doubt that there's going to be a response. Not that I think its a bad idea to have as many pots on the stove as possible. Elevating ourselves above GJ is a good idea. Others could include eliminating the vast conventional army of TOL, starting in +994 to +998 rather than waiting until the last moment, smashing sainted genitals, and lowering GJ are also ideas. I like starting early in particular, it gives us a lot more control if something goes wrong.
>>1158865Your theologians have, a long time ago, estimated that were it possible to bring a significant part of the population to such standards of living that even believers would have to admit that heaven pales in comparison, the entire edifice of Yahwist supremacy would crumble.As of right now, it's a bit of a risky strategy, since it takes significant time. However, the consensus amongst your analysists is that the more irons in the fire, the better.
>>1158871I'm all for setting up and stopping the TOL from marching, But we also need to increase/start now doing that AND move our army to stop TOL. We have 12 dudes now, Split'em between the launches and use villians on other stuff to stop failures?>>1158874Anything mentioning that 'greater' areas are destoryed or ripped down?
>>1158877We have 3 spare cabals so yea, we can increase prosperity this turn.
>>1158877Not in anything you have uncovered.(is >>1158745 good?)
>>1158882That leaves us an extra cabal. What do, also now I am not convinced, QM, did we already improve prosperity this turn?
>>1158883Where do the villains go in that?
>>1158885not this turn, We did it last turn.
>>1158883Sure split prosperity growth between Pacifica and Misrayim.
>>1158883This is fine with me
>>1158885You did last turn.>>1158893>>1158888(Okay... can someone recap it please. OOC note: if you have an extra cabal, send them to snoop around somewhere, or take on a complexity-2 job and roll the die)
Too tired to think straight. Anons.
>>1158895>6 cabals on Reach launches.>Luna and mars on reach launches.>4 cabals improve prosperity in pacifica and misrayim>2 cabals to kidnap TsionThis work?
>>1158910(Works mechanically, I guess? I can arrange cabals between launches for you. Sorry about being anal with the rules, but there's ten turns left, so every move counts!)
>>1158895this >>1158910 but with the villians sent.>Jeb on Reach parts>Ithuriel and Zak on increasing prosperity in Egypt or west America. >Kat and Damien fucking with Tsion somehow?
>>1158913Question. Were we able to tell if it was TJ or god who attacked us when we played machine god?
>>1158914>>1158913Villains set looks good to me. Taking Tsion out of commission would be its own reward, but if anons support this, we could use him as an angel-spawn and we can research them in order to become more proficient in dealing with them. Short of the almighty, they are our most powerful opponents, and it would pay off to get better at breaking them for the final battle. I may be entirely off-base here, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>1158919The being that managed to interact with you without your consent identified as I AM. Your theologians analyzed the transcript and agree strongly, but not unanimously, that this was Yahweh. As of now Yahweh believes, correctly, that what little soul you have is suffering in Hell, as much as a computer can really experience suffering, which isn't much. Mostly, it messed mightily with the temperature sensors in your datacenters. You narrowly avoided releasing Halon gas on your system administrators.>>1158914Kat, Damien and Zak have been busy in the Middle East with messing with Chaim Rozenweig and assisting in building the new canal.
>>1158925Just ignore those 3 then and put the rest where I said then.So.. i just realized maybe we can distract TJ and ''god' at the final battle by having everybody else pray. We might get fried but we can make a back up yes?
Guys, Tsion is too dangerous a target for that few. He's a five cabal target at the least.
>>1158936>>1158925If his too much a target, just ignore him then? I thought we could I'll trust you anti. I gusse put up mk 3 eyes then.
Rolled 69, 65 = 134 (2d100)>>1158910After the Centauri System announcement, the Timbuktu launch complex gets more visitors than it's been getting since the first heroic canopy breaching attempts, especially since these are the habitats which are going to the Reach. Your engineers aren't done customizing them to what is known of the alien environment just yet, but they hope to be able to do so next year.On Luna, a specially-assembled fuel module is sent to dock with the Reach directly, the first finished product of local industry to leave the surface.On Mars, the Imperium Profugus returns home from its usual bi-monthly trip with a series of soil samples and a prototype hab to go to the Reach; the Martians accept a bit of privation in order to share the results of their brand of seat-of-pants engineering with the rest of Humanity. After all, unlike the habs built on Earth, theirs was born in a hostile environment.Jeb, alas, had a heart attack listening to Cordylon's announcement. He was one of the first people to get the reflex injection, so getting used to not having a sense of touch will be easier for him than for those who came before; nevertheless, as is typical of the newly revenants, he takes a perhaps overly cerebral attitude on the matter and throws himself into managerial duties. Cordylon reports to a psychquisitor that on the HMEC's end, the sex is now considerably better, but doesn't give details.Ithuriel has little to do: Misrayim and Pacifica both are exploding with patriotic and cultural fervor, one due to the historic announcement, and the other due to the simple fact that the biotech business is booming: Ryan Andrews has promised a final cure for the MEC condition within five years, Tethys' people have finished situating themselves, and Pacifica in general became one big party when the Alpha Centauri report came in. Kat-style molecular gastronomy restaurants have proliferated, growth enzymes have brought the great redwood forests back to where they belonged, and Mr. Bissattini has been an excellent politician; he knows that his job is to give your administration a human face, and doesn't try to be anything more than that. Of note, Pacifican manufacturers strike a deal with Heartlanders to improve wastewater treatments in the few cities that are left.>>1158943>>1158936(Tsion, or Mk3s? If Mk3s, pick 3 territories that do not have a blue arrow)
>>1158945Jeb's self-confidence is greatly restored by his ability to deal with the lunar fuel module ending up in the wrong orbit; taking a lander and repurposing its landing gear as a claw of sorts, he manages to grab it and take it to rendezvous with the gargantuan interstellar ship. "And I did it dead stick" he comments to a small round of applause back on Cordylon Station "but I better get used to that."(NOTE: All your Villains now have an active metabolic extension controller. Not a big deal given how good the tech has gotten, but it does mean that the only one who can directly fight an Angel is Ithuriel)
>>1158945North East Asia, the Pacific islands, and middle Africa. We can do the Americas soon.
>>1158945>>1158936>>1158943I understand my fellow anons reservations, but I don't think we need to overman by two cabals. However, undermanning even by one could be bad with our rolls. I think it's worth a try, but I'll yield to you guys if you really think it's a bad idea.
>>1158945Can we not put Mk 3s over areas we have for even greater control? If not I'll back >>1158953 for placements.>>1158956Anti i think was here longer then me and I fear losing a villian so late game.
>>1158956Look. The fact of hero killing or capture is that it's not so much a case of Manning, it's that after the Manning the hero has a (especially with these dice) extremely high chance of killing or at the least ruining the effort. Add Tsion being glorified and now the possibility for failure is even higher.
>>1158965I can, unironicly and literally say I have been here since the beginning.
>>1158967Makes sense, supporting Mk III placement per >>1158953
>>1158971Are you alright with us raising Egypt up to 10 Prosperity? Also, You've been here sense the start then, Think everybody 'praying' to us during the final battle would be enough to distract god/TJ for a chance of our men to work/get the job done easier?
>>1158974From what we've seen with NC, all that attention we would get would lead to Tyrant just telling us to "fall" and setting more of our cores in a loop. Plus this thing seems to be like a computer with preset functions and no lag. See egypt. Where the biggest example of any change we saw from Tyrant during the rebellion was lighting not hitting people who killed a believer once, but twice. And happening almost a thousand times a second. I can almost be certain the "distraction" would be a wasted effort.
>>1158974As for prosperity I say bring it up to 9+ if you want, but if we go to ten be prepared for a major happening that year. Like fire raining on the entire territory, or a sudden volcano.
>>1158965Not particularly. Having two cell phone towers next to your house isn't twice as good as having one. It does make life easier to have redundancies if there's a disaster, but the only disaster up there is the canopy cracking, in which case having more pseudosatellites on the same canopy wouldn't help much.>>1158953>>1158972Ithuriel has relatively little to do when it comes to improving an economy, and instead, he puts himself under one of the people involved in that efforts, and learns as much as he can about consumerism. He finds it mildly distasteful, but can see how it would encourage some types of progress. Having him in a slightly too tight suit and tie in the background for venture capitalist meetings and business negotiations doesn't hurt either, and he appreciates not being attacked by fangirls as much as during his last tour of duty. His adamantine honesty occasionally helps with a deal, and occasionally gets in the way - overall, it just about balances out.The new system of deploying Sky Eyes is tested, at first to give the drop troopers something to do during training since the technique is similar, and then to let people travel on top of the ice a little. During that, they come across the derelict TOL canopy base once again, and# drop it on the ground.# reclaim it, at least as emergency shelter room.# keep ignoring it.There has been some buzz about a possible Temple reaction to the Alpha Centauri announcement, but before that, there's the matter of the Suez canal. The Greater Jerusalem liaison is unhappy: after much work constructing the ports at the ends, it seems that no progress has been made with the canal proper. Your site engineers have been blandishing the man, but now he is straight out accusing them of making excuses. The only one who isn't worried is, oddly enough, Noah, who reiterates his invite to Damien (plus one guest) to visit the Ark, either on its next trip or when it's back home.The current site engineer for the canal project# pushes the demolition charge button without much ceremony, as if to shut the GJ liaison up. Your cameras will catch it anyway.# asks for a believer, or maybe even Noah, to push the button that will collapse the artificial cave into a canal.# specifically mocks Moses, as represented in the Charlton Heston film, and shows up in traditional Levite garb and raises his hands to the sky while pushing the button.
>>1158981>reclaim it.>Have Noah and Damine push it together as a show of friendship and unity. Or w.e. Pr We can spin it as
>>1158981I like this>>1158983
>>1158981>reclaim it, at least as emergency shelter room.
>>1158981# reclaim it, at least as emergency shelter room.>>1158983Eh maybe. Think we can have a moment of direct contact with the man.
>>1158990>>1158985>>1158981I'd like to clarify. 2 buttons being pushed on each side of the canal. At the same time. Not hand in hand touching 1
>>1158993Yeah, good catch.
>>1158993Yeah, I figured as cute as the other one would've been.
>>1158981"Today on Protos, with Greg Burdette. Professor Ken Ham of the Creation Research Society's reaction to the momentous and controversial announcement from Cordylon Station.""I’m shocked at the countless millions of talents that have been spent over the years in the desperate and fruitless search for extraterrestrial life And now, secular scientists are at it again. What evidence from Alpha Centauri? Were you there? Has anybody been there? All we have are pictures grainier than those of Bigfoot and a five-minute movie that I could replicate in our Institute's pond.Of course, secularists are desperate to find life in outer space, as they believe that would provide evidence that life can evolve in different locations and given the supposed right conditions! The search for extraterrestrial life is really driven by man’s rebellion against God in a desperate attempt to supposedly prove evolution!You see, according to the secular, evolutionary worldview there must be other habited worlds out there. Secularists cannot allow earth to be special or unique—that’s a biblical idea. The Bible, in sharp contrast to the secular worldview, teaches that earth was specially created, that it is unique and the focus of God’s attention. The Earth was created for human life. And the sun and moon were created for signs and our seasons—and to declare the glory of God.Any aliens would also be affected by Adam’s sin, but because they are not Adam’s descendants, they can’t have salvation. God’s Son stepped into history to be Jesus Christ, the “Godman,” to be our relative, and to be the perfect sacrifice for sin. Jesus did not become the “GodKlingon” or the “GodMartian”! To suggest that aliens could respond to the gospel is just totally wrong. An understanding of the gospel makes it clear that salvation through Christ is only for the Adamic race—human beings who are all descendants of Adam.Many secularists want to discover alien life hoping that aliens can answer the deepest questions of life: “Where did we come from?” and “What is the purpose and meaning of life?” But such people are ignoring the revelation from the infinite God behind the whole universe. The Creator has told us where we came from: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth”. And He told us what life’s purpose is: “Fear God and keep His commandments."The answers to life’s questions will not be found in imaginary aliens but in the revelation of the Creator through the Bible and His Son, Jesus Christ, who came to die on a Cross to redeem mankind from sin and death that our ancestor, Adam, introduced.""All right, thank you, Professor. For the rebuttal... Cordylon!""Wait, there's a rebuttal?""Yes Dr. Ham, haven't you ever watched Greg's show? Thank you, Greg. Let me use my time to show you the high resolution time lapse for the interstellar probe flyby as I narrate..."
>>1158996Well I'm half asleep and thought. 'Noah might be a bro, but hand touching if not a hand shake is kinda gay'
>>1159009It could also be fatal as Noah is "glorified".
>>1159010I like to think Noah would just go. ' Thats gay bro' and ask for his own button.
>>1159005They just wrote the dwarves and merfolk off to hell, this is so not going to go over well.
>>1159001>>1158996>>1158993Above, your workers bring the TOL canopy station back online - which is easy - and up to your safety standards - which it isn't. It's still a pile of scrap, but it will be useful in training more people in one go, especially with the Reach project reaching its climax: basic training will happen in Cordylon Station, where it's safer, and advanced will happen in what is renamed Cendrillon Station. A light funicular is quickly constructed between the two installation.>>1158993>>1158996>>1159001In all this, Noah still hasn't realized (or has, but is pretending not to have) that Damien is, in fact, a head mounted on an armored box full of organs that occasionally gets stuck into a variety of robots. The HMEC had to basically relearn how to walk in order to do this, and does end up walking with a cane; for this brief demo they've stuck Damien into the smallest synthmuscle frame available, which still has the look of an East German female Olympian circa 1980. "Poor dear, you've put so much work into this, you got lumbago! I know how that is from my former life..."The two wave at each other and, to the visibly annoyed eye of the priests and Levites who had to be roused to give the patriarch's landing a bit of ceremony, pull the small lever.When they do, the Earth makes an ancient rumbling sound - the demolition charges are situated pretty deep. An artificial earthquake, the first in many centuries, shakes the entirety of the Suez strip starting from the Mediterranean and ending to the Red Sea; the ports, having been built with this in mind, sustain no damage.And nothing happens, because of course it doesn't.Five seconds later, some idiot reaches over the no-go zone with a ten foot pole, pokes a stone, and all of a sudden an enormous snake of sand a hundred meters wide and two hundred kilometers long falls on itself, right at the edge of the retaining walls that had been built, into the artificial cavern. The water soon rushes through, with enough force in its current to create a breeze just from the Coanda effect.The Levites applaud politely. The workers wipe their brows in relief. Damien asks the technician behind the frame to no stop holding on. Noah smiles broadly. "To the ark, my followers! You shall ride through on the current, and spare labor to our tugs.""And yourself, patriarch?"What follows is a high resolution view, from multiple angles, of Noah pushing his Glorified body to its limits, grabbing a jon boat, sliding it down the levee wall, and riding the third-harmonic wave down half the length of the canal. After that, some of the more nautically inclined workers follow.You are very sure that Weaver caught the wave from the other side, although there is no clear video of the pirate and the patriarch waving at each other in the middle.The Ark majestically sails through an hour later, with the last of the inrush current.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_E9ebt1a_s
>>1159033Be free my majestic noble Noah.
>>1159037Guess we won't get out text to microphone conversation. Oh well. At least we pissed off the temple, and created a new trade route.
So i just found this in youtube's recommended section.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJQQMT1QQik
>>1159038You think the inside of the ark is like being in private and makes it super easy to convert people or to capture/gene-sample them?
>>1159043Yeah. The ark is likely a NC heavy system that makes converting easy.
>>1159033The highlight of the Feast of Tabernacles this year is the Pacifican delegation delivering unto David and the other patriarchs a van-load of lovingly crafted (or organically grown, in a couple of cases) surfboards. They are accepted without comment, but a week later, two or three are seen adorning the deck of the Ark replica as Noah begins his evangelism tour of the Middle East and India.The Other Light's reinforcement of their presence in Russia and Eastern Africa is seen as corresponding to the Gog and Magog prophecy; many Christian exegetists note that the doubts of those who wondered why it repeated itself twice in Scripture are righteously vanquished, for as it was before the Rapture, so it seems that it will be before the Last Battle. Effectively, TOL put the territorial capitols under siege; in Northeast Asia, this fails, but elsewhere the believers there agree to leave peacefully after being told to turn the other cheek from the Temple.Of note, in Western Russia the believers refuse to let go of the launch complex, and mount a defense around it. There's a standoff rather than a battle, but it's ongoing. The people training at Cendrillon station...# Ignore it.# Drop a symbolic amount of supplies to the believing besieged.# Drop a symbolic amount of weapons to the TOL besiegers.>>1159041(holy crap mount & blade on steroids!)
>>1159048>Drop stuff to both of them, with each having food and medical supplies so it lasts much longer. Under the apperence that we missed the second drop.
>>1159047>>1159048If you guys liked that you'll love this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvcUKJ3WrGU
>>1159048# Ignore it. Believers will win, but if Tol takes the Facility I want a Railcanon shot hitting their ramp.
>>1159054My boner. It will no longer be contained.
Other than the obligatory Surfer Noah memes and a GIF of the patriarch taking the Ark through the canal only to be briefly waved at by a mermaid who then shows tail and splashes off, the Christians are relatively quiet: Ely LeVey interviews Ken Ham on her program, where he points out that Greg Burdette's "ambush piece" was entirely disrespectful and took hm out of context, but few people outside of her core audience care. Tsion stops short of calling Noah undignified, obviously, but does very much complain when you state that ships going through Suez will have to pay toll regardless of provenience or purpose (although the Ark and attendant tugs got a freebie). Your government provides an answer composed mostly of Ronald Reagan quotes, which shuts the theologian up for now.>>1159054(dayum! I thought this was impressive at the time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqaVXXVmark )
>>1159056Using the railgun to hit the "ice hole" in a way that penetrates without destroying Cendrillon Station would be difficult: the people doing their training there propose instead that a pressurized hydrogen tank be pushed through the canopy, and then allowed to fall on the facility. One floridly be-mustached astronaut trainee refers to this plan as "Jamie wants big boom".(By the way, the Ken Ham speech is real, so is Ely LeVey's, if you change country names and some details)
>>1159058If it weren't for divine retribution our soldiers could possibly pull that off.And how are Ronald Reagan quotes so damn effective! LMAO.
>>1159061(As expected.)Jamie want big boom is a go as upon TOL Victory.
>>1159062(Because FREE MARKET CAPITALISM, HO!)>>1159062>>1159052# Drop stuff. or not.# End year, or not.(After which, I'll post the map for +991 and go to sleep)
>>1159067Drop it when TOL win but make it seem 'Devine'I want them to not reliaze until its too late.
>>1159067Wait what about our launches of the MK's 3?
>>1159067# End year, or not.End of year, I don't want either faction getting our gear and then getting smart.
>>1159067>End year, or not.
>>1159072(Those are on the map; they also got a couple of lines of story, if you scroll up)>>1159068>>1159066Alas, the drop doesn't happen; the believers collapse the launch ramp themselves before leaving the facility, and do a pretty fair job of it. The place has been the Cosmists' "temple" and the center of their culture for centuries, but they barely shed a tear - now the stars are within reach!TOL's takeover of "Gog and Magog" continues unabated... http://leftbehind.wikia.com/wiki/Gog_and_MagogWe're coming down to the wire now; ten years to go. A hypothetical visitor to the Solar System looking in the radio spectrum would see points of activity on Earth, the Moon, Mars and Deimos, and a solitary beep-beep-beep further out in the asteroid belt. Under the canopy, the preparations for the Last War continue. The world literally has less than ten years to live... and yet, so much in history took less than that, two world wars, a race to the moon. Much like 1990, +990 has been a year of great hope and optimism; then a wall fell and nations joined together to stop a tyrant, now the stars were touched, however briefly.Have you managed to shatter the prophecies, or are you simply fulfilling them?
>>1159080My bad QM lol. Night, hopefully i catch it before a turn happens today.I really want the Ark to launch and for us to hit 10 prospity in Egypt to derail the script.
>>1159080(fixed prosperities for when we actually do next year)(If you have questions or comments please drop them off here! I'm going to get some sleep! Thanks for playing and hope it's been fun so far!)
>>1159083(Oh and since one anon at the beginning of the thread asked... see pic)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJNz2QgSNsk
>>1159083West America and Egypt should be 2 higher they are... or 1 higher. Also what do we need to reach to surpass GJ?
>>1159083The last battle (or rather it's aversion) is going to be fun and stressful to play out, however it ends it's been an honor playing this quest with ya.
>>1159083What do you plan to run after this? Another run of this or something entirely new?Have we made the choices you expected?
And back.>>1159262I'm going to either do a sequel to this, or a sendoff of Atlas Shrugged just like this was a sendoff of Left Behind. AS is actually an excellent prequel to a mad max type situation, except with 1930s hot rods and armored trains, instead of 1970s muscle cars and tankers. Design doc is at http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/IronLegion.IronLegion.html
>>1159674I can see both of those being quite fun, although I wonder what it would be like playing from the side of one of the "miracle men" in Atlas Shrugged. But run what you will and chances are we will be there.Just wondering, do we have any chance of us pulling off defeating TJ?
>>1159674So reinstating the glory of the Human empire?
>>1159687If you read AS as an Illiad-style epic, in which gods walk the battlefield, AS is pretty enjoyable. (Eddie Willers' Odyssey is something that Rand might have written if she didn't turn into a cult leader, we missed out). The problem is that there's a lot of people who think that AS is non-fiction.(Outright beating up TurboJesus? Hard, especially since it's LB canons that nukes -always- fizzle. This is a puzzle boss. I hope that I've thought up of enough possible solutions and I look forward to seeing a dice-resistant crazy plan that I had not thought up at all!)>>1159691Hey, I like HFY, so sue me :) This whole mess was provoked by me reading http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/TheSalvationWar and wanting to do something closer to the Bible.Anyhoo!
>>1159702When I said "beating" I meant "not being horribly atomised, killed, dismembered, tortured, burnt, pierced, shot, crushed, electrocuted or otherwise destroyed." as in we manage to contain him.As to the nature of AS, I would argue it can be taken many ways but I see it as an example of anti-government writing. Showing how even with miracle tech and engineering, humans can't beat their nature.However it does also show that society is more resilient than anything else. Which is why it would be a fun thing to do a quest in I suppose...
Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlYou have 25 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, 1 is space police, and 1 is army liaison, so 20 are available. Your civilian research grant is focused on curing radiation sickness. Your military grant is focused on sea mines.You are not tracking enemy teams. TOL are continuing their own takeovers. You have 2 aerospace parts in storage.Your Moon colony is experiencing birth defects. Your Mars colony is doing well. They both count as bases now.Variable complexity:# Media blitz to leverage any recent success.# Any interesting idea you might want to try.# Deal with special situations. For example, assist in rebuilding the Suez Canal.# Assign manpower to research.Complexity 0# Use a MISC special.# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.C 1# SPECIAL Refit a Hab module on the Reach (Max 4)# SPECIAL Send a drone to the Temple by having TOL or believers build it.# Use army units to attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.# Work on Hell nodes.C 2# Resume tracking.# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot)# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.# Build aerospace parts.# Use an aerospace part to deploy Sky Eyes in three territories.# Do a space launch using parts you have built.* Asteroid mining outposts* Titan colony* Large ship constructionC 3# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.# Hack into TOL systems.# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.# Convert 3 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediatelyC 4# Send crew from the canopy base to an off-world location, and replace the canopy base crew. (1 population dot; 1 cabal lost for Earthside ops)# Recruit people into your infantry.C 5# Begin a new base.# Recruit.C 6# Heavy weapons factory: add 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).
>>1159737How many parts need to be retrofitted and how many do we have sitting around still? Also I thought the Sueze Canal was built?
>>1159737>SPECIAL Refit a Hab module on the Reach (Max 4)4 Cabals.>Use an aerospace part to deploy Sky Eyes in three territories.2 parts, 4 cabals.>Build aerospace parts.12 cabals.
>>1159741(Thanks, I forgot that in there)4 parts can be retrofitted. 1 already has been. This is optional, although it will make life easier for Centaurian colonists.The "pizza war" in Pacifica has calmed down, although after the announcement that there's life on Alpha Centauri Bd (There's a petition to name the planet various things, including Chiron), it turned a little silly. A couple of months later, it turned out that the centauroid body was mostly an animatronic... mostly.
>>1159747How many areospace parts are we sitting around with, and how many until the reach is 100% and ready to go? The pizza war is fucking priceless.
>>1159737Have 4 cabals refitting the Reach's habitation modules.Have 4 cabals, the moon and the auto factory produce aerospace parts, 4 of them. Have the KSV built and set off using those parts plus the two we have in storage. 8 cabals.Launch 6 sky eyes. 2 parts and 4 cabals.This consumes all cabals and all parts but readies the reach, gets us near total if not total sky eye coverage and the Kinetic kill Vehicle under way.
>>1159752>How many areospace parts are we sitting around with, and how many until the reach is 100% and ready to go?Reach is ready, but retrofitting the parts will make the travel and settlement of AC easier.We are sitting on 2 aerospace parts if the dots are what i think they are.
>>1159756>>1159747I just want the math done properly and stuff, Hence why I'm so confused. The map dones't show the 'Reach' filled in at all.
>>1159759If it doesn't show the part counter, and last turn the part counter was at 15, it's safe to assume the Reach is done.I could be wrong though.
>>1159745Change this to>SPECIAL Refit a Hab module on the Reach (Max 4)2 cabals, Luna and mars.
>>1159752The Reach can launch at the end of the year, if you are willing to either send out inexperienced (but vetted and trained) people, or partially empty your Luna and Mars colonies. Otherwise, you will have to wait another year.>>1159759>>1159761The Reach is currently empty of passengers/colonists, but has been completed (I removed the parts counter from completed projects).After your effort to complete the Reach, you have two stacks of space-rated parts in storage.>>1159752While in Pacifica to improve the territory's economy, Ithuriel was tricked into doing a pizza delivery from Oakland to Sausalito. He claims that he was aware of the ruse and did it to keep the whole thing lighthearted. Your psychologists aren't so sure, but Ithuriel flat out trying to commit a white lie is good news nevertheless.
Will anon's support my plan(>>1159755)? Please?It gets us more or less everything done and sends off the KKV, which we are better off sending now than in the future...even if it only reaches 0.4 to 0.6 of C. It will at the very least be a big hit on the temple even if we don't assemble our forces outside it, like some anons have planned to avoid doing in order to break the prophecy.
>>1159737# Use a MISC special. Mars/luna retrofit the 2 Parts.# Use a MISC special. Get people from Earth and the colonies on board. # SPECIAL Refit a Hab module on the Reach (Max 4) 2 Retro fit parts, 2 Cabal Jeb.# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. 4 Cabal Egypt and West America. Ithuriel, Kat and Damien# Send crew from the canopy base to an off-world location, and replace the canopy base crew. (1 population dot; 1 cabal lost for Earthside ops) 8 Cabal to the Reach, make them experienced. # Build aerospace parts. 2 Cabal# Use an aerospace part to deploy Sky Eyes in three territories. 2 Cabal, Mexico, Central America, East America# Resume tracking. 2 Cabal, TOL army movment. Zak
>>1159771If it was the server ship that goes WITH the ark, Sure. but its not. So no thanks.
>>1159775I like this a bit more.
>>1159771Such a powerful kinetic strike would destroy the tunnel network we created to capture TJ. So no.
>>1159771We currently have a few ideas, Use the tunnels to gas people, Stop the TOL from showing up, Send the Ark/possible server ship next after it. Become RICHER then GJ and thus destory the whole 'god is great' and I think thats it. If we orbital strike GJ we're ruining 90% of theses. And My eggs are not all in 1 basket.
>>1159779>>1159786>>1159789Okay, I am seeing your arguments.If we replace the KKV with the server ship would you agree to following my plan?
>>1159802Never answered why we need so many Mk 3's.
>>1159786If you were to launch a kinetic strike vehicle this year, assuming that the Last Battle is in +1000, it would have 2 years to accelerate away from Earth, 2 years to decelerate, and 4 years to accelerate towards Earth. This would result in an impact speed of approximately 0.2c.>>1159808You are the principal, if not sole, provider of wireless internet on Earth. The more bandwidth you have, the more likely it is that people will use the internet instead of government controlled media or TOL pirate radios and TV stations. In addition, the more bandwidth you have, the easier it is to vector drones to assist agents on a field job.
>>1159808I think they're either suspecting we can use them later, during the fighting or are planning to make an empire on earth by force if necessary.
>>1159815>>1159814we should put'em over GJ then. But we don't need to do that now.
>>1159819They don't stay there. They get shot down after a year. We have to keep one in reserve to drop it over GJ during the attack.
>>1159819No reason not to. However if we were to reassign their assets (2 aerospace parts and 4 cabals) in my plan, we could entirely finish the Server ship this turn...
>>1159847Isn't it 6 parts meaning 6 parts made and then launched?
>>1159861Yep, except we have already decided to reassign the 8 cabals and 4 parts from build the KKV to building the server ship.So by reassigning these too, we get 12 cabals and 6 parts to build it.
>>1159865..What? No you decided that. Mine never made mention of any reassigning and currently has the most. Next turn I plan on putting the Server ship built.
>>1159871I am talking about in my plan, as that is the basic assumption one should make in this conversation but I can see that it was unclear which plan I was discussing...
>>1159873Even more so since we were continuing the conversation began by my post (>>1159847) where I specify I am discussing my plan...
>>1159875Going with this anons idea, with the modification of the parts going to the server ship.
Okay, so the revised plan therefore is;Have 4 cabals refitting the Reach's habitation modules.Have 4 cabals, the moon and the auto factory produce aerospace parts, 4 of them. Have the server ship built using those parts plus the two we have in storage. 12 cabals.
Rolled 16, 66 = 82 (2d100)>>1159775>>1159765>>1159755(You seem to agree on formally completing the Reach, so let me do the writeup on this first.)Given the nature of the project, Jeb pulls rank, for once, and assigns himself to it. He's not adjusting to being a revenant too well, and complains that it's like always being in a spacesuit - he keeps wanting to take his helmet off even when he's not wearing one. There have been a handful of incidents of people ripping their own neck off in the past, usually MECs who were trained as pilots or scuba divers, but a proper support network has historically taken care of this; Jeb has Cordylon, who's been through worse earlier in life and is helping him cope.The modifications to the habs aren't particularly extensive - a few parts that would be redundant are removed or only kept for emergencies, and the extra room is used to carry more of useful equipment. Since there is readily accessible water on all three possible planets, for example, wind-traps are removed and replaced with H2/O2 generators.Of course, now that the big ship is ready, everyone is assuming that it will leave as soon as possible; you haven't made a decision there yet, but it's not stopping pretty much a third of your forces from putting in an application.Cordylon: "I have been this station for years now, it's more part of me than my original body by now. Actually, I wonder - if I went to Hell - would the station follow me? If it does... it's pretty much the beginning of the end for Hell. But I would go with Jeb. He needs me more than Valentina might."Jeb: "I flew for you. I cheated death a few times for you. Shit, I kamikazed Death for you, and I'm still here! But we both know that my place is on that ship. There are yet more horizons to see!"Ithuriel: "I was made in Heaven, but I was reborn on Earth. Fight to the end, and if it lands me in Hell - fight past it!"Zakharov: "No point lying to you, Omega. Our future is in the stars, and I intend to help shape it. I'd like a seat, please."Kat: Damien: "It depends. I'm the best drone operator we have. If you're not going, I should. If you're going, you won't have to run a country for a long time, so there's less point in bringing me and I would be needed for the final battle."Weaver: "I'm pretty much the baddest thing in the seven seas... nowhere to go but up, I reckon. But, I don't work for you anymore, so I'll ask for a seat and expect a polite no."Andrews: "As you asked, I've sat down with a master, and learned a technical trade. I now rate as a registered nurse. I'll tell you later who my "plus one" is."Urist: "We'll explore the cosmos - by our own effort or none. We stay, and we fight, if it comes to that. Only.... should we fail - you have our gene bank. Please bring us back."A few believers, all young, ask if they would be able to come. The official stance is that the Judgement will reach the people on the Reach, but some kids think that it'd be a beautiful adventure regardless.
>>1159891No believers.And of course we're bringing the dwarves back, they are fucking awesome.
>>1159891All the heroes will have a seat reserved and in the case of the Heavy MECs, might even end up installed in a cargo ship design for the length of the journey simply for efficiency.Except Urist, send him our entire space designs booklet / technical documentation and a (obsolete) part that was removed from the Reach, with a single message; "If we ever meet again in the stars, let this be a sign of our union so that we might know each other no matter our forms."As to the believers, explain that we aren't willing but if they can get their own ship together...they will find themselves welcome for the journey or at least as far as we get.Also, send a message to the underground railroad and the tree of life. Tell them we need to see their leaders, urgently, about our plan B and if they want to reserve a seat.
>>1159891No believers.>Jeb>Cordylon>Zakharov>Andrews>Promise Urist, We will because its what friends do. >Call Up Tree of Life and Whoever else we good ties with for there seat/chance at a future encase earth fails.Everybody else is to stay here because they are more combat speced but ONCE we win, Well... We'll need to get ready for a big ass party now won't we? >>1159907We can't send them all, And the Ark is leaving NOW.
>>1159917We can send them all. We have the available space given it can house like 1000 people or something.Especially since I plan to build more ships to send with / after it.
>>1159922We can't. We NEED the combat ones for the FINAL battle mate. They can go after we win.
>>1159924>>1159922Slow down, we weren't sending it until the final battle was fought or about to be fought. Recall?
>>1159930What? no We're sending the Ark out this turn so its not caught in the back lash of the final battle and/or letting god hit it.
Plus we still have to round up passengers.
>>1159903(Y'all tell me on cabal assignment)You have a unique opportunity: assuming the worst case scenario, nobody wins and the solar system is made unfit for life - the whole of humanity would be the few hundred people on the interstellar ship.# Specifically forbid carrying Scripture on the Reach. This will extinct the Christian memeplex, but may make it harder to fight a Yahweh-like entity in the future.# Carry a heavily encrypted copy of the various Bible translations. Eventually, someone will hack the archive - that always happens - but it should take centuries and by then it should've been resolved one way or the other.The believers who asked for a ride take it as a challenge, shake hands with a few of your space engineers, go home full of vim and vigor... and are thoroughly chastised by Tsion Ben-Judah, who goes as far as questioning their salvation. That's all you hear of that, at least for the year.>>1159907>>1159917A few Tree Of Life people already had made a deal with you a few years ago as part of the Pacifica reconquest effort; rather than reserving seats, they wanted to participate in the vetting process, which you have allowed at the time. Since they have some of the world's best biologists and doctors, a few of them breezed through the screening anyway - those skills will be essential in setting up a colony.The Underground Railroad leaders aren't particularly interested, surprsingly; they think that humanity will endure on Earth. "And if not, we already know that our descendants will build an inclusive society as long as everyone in it pulls their own weight. We're hoping to formally disband our organization in +1001!"Cordylon hands over the base to another HMEC, Ordis, who is a fellow Cosmist but believes that the Solar System should be properly civilized. He's almost as good as Cordylon at operating/bing the base, and will learn quickly (Incidentally, it seems that most HMECs identify as males, statistically, by about 2:1).>>1159922It's really a matter of losing a tactical asset now in return for giving your colonists a better chance for the future due to having a proven skilled and loyal individual on the away team.>>1159936There are 9 dots to fill (the first dot is your guaranteed-seat people, Andrews, the people he vetted, and the people that Lifetree vetted). You can # partially empty the extraplanetary bases and refill them using the planetary ferry later# send up people who have been vetted and trained but have no experience# wait two years to get all colonists a rotation in space# wait one year to get some colonists a rotation in space# wait one year and slightly empty your extraplanetary bases
>>1159924They can command from out in the asteroid belt, given that our communications network works at the speed of light and that most of them if not all all don't get involved in combat directly.Also in the case of those that do, one is a master pilot and the other is a desolator. Both of these are not useful for our plans.I will however relinquish Ithuriel, given his nature as a willing combatant with no intent to run.>>1159930I thought we were sending it now? Okay then...>>1159936Oh shit yeah that too, since it costs 4 cabals per pop and we need 9 pop, we will need 36 cabals of labour.If we do this in a reasonable time scale of 3 turns, then we can also produce another few crafts to go with it carrying population or shit.However we could delay even further and get even more. Assuming we can prove god can't hit them or that they can resist his assault.
>>1159948# Carry a heavily encrypted copy of the various Bible translations. Eventually, someone will hack the archive - that always happens - but it should take centuries and by then it should've been resolved one way or the other.# wait two years to get all colonists a rotation in spaceThis is the logical approach and will allow us to take even more colonists with us by building additional ships and shit to go with them.
>>1159948># Carry a heavily encrypted copy of the various Bible translations. Eventually, someone will hack the archive - that always happens - but it should take centuries and by then it should've been resolved one way or the other.We have reason to believe there are other Tyrant like entity's amount the stars, we should be ready to face them.# wait two years to get all colonists a rotation in spaceTake off possible before 993.
>>1159948# Carry a heavily encrypted copy of the various Bible translations. Eventually, someone will hack the archive - that always happens - but it should take centuries and by then it should've been resolved one way or the other.# wait one year and slightly empty your extraplanetary bases
>>1159961What if we delay the launch by another two years to get another Reach style craft up?How much would it cost OP to produce another colony ship?
>>1159948>Carry a heavily encrypted copy of the various Bible translations. Eventually, someone will hack the archive - that always happens - but it should take centuries and by then it should've been resolved one way or the other.>wait two years to get all colonists a rotation in space
>>1159965We're not building another one.
>>1159970Why not? Personally I want to just crank out as many cargo ships as we can and fill them with a mix of cryo-stored people, industry and shit.
>>1159983Because we have OTHER important things to spend our cabals on. We can spam shit AFTER we win.
>>1159990True but what if we don't?Still I agree, once we have all the prep for our final battle done, we assign every other asset to space shit; making ships, getting colonists and sending them off.
>>1159965A copy of the Reach would require 20 parts. A minimum-sized independent colony ship, carrying only about fifty people and livestock, would require 15. Fortunately, many of the engineering problems have already been resolved, which would allow you to work quickly - however, you only have one launch ramp and station, which means there is a maximum of 12 launches a year.>>1159968>>1159961>>1159959You figure that the colonists currently outside of Earth have put down roots, and you don't want to make it look like that the Reach is actually Plan A, so there will be no colony relocations - no reason to start a panic. Therefore, the current group of colonists will take two years to train on Earth, the canopy, and low orbit.Since the work is planned two years in advance and since the entire point is to make sure that the new colonists are able to handle themselves, your people will not be tightly involved in this operation: one workgroup to manage the training and one to assist you in managing the orbital logistics will be sufficient. The downside is that you will not be able to alter this arrangement without losing its benefits.# Confirm a +993 launch? It will cost two cabals to set this up. A rushed launch will cost more.Your decision to bring along a copy of the Bible is leaked, and a very ornate copy thereof is delivered anonymously to Timbuktu. Quite a lot of people assume that it's from Noah. Cameron Williams wants to make a video about it being scanned for upload onto the Reach's datalinks (even though the actual copy got encrypted and sent up in a few minutes with routine traffic)# and is told to take a hike.# and is told to do it himself, and send the JPEGs over to Timbuktu if he absolutely has to.# and is allowed to do it, lest he use his time doing something actually damaging.>>1159983Setting up an assembly line has its advantages - parts will cost significantly less. However, there will be an initial investment necessary, and some of your production capacity will be tied up in this.
I just fucking realized our military research is still on sea mines.
>>1159997# and is allowed to do it, lest he use his time doing something actually damaging.# Confirm a +993 launch? It will cost two cabals to set this up. A rushed launch will cost more. Set 2 Cabal to the side.
>>1159997# and is allowed to do it, lest he use his time doing something actually damaging.Could we set up a assembly line in the asteroid belt? It could be manned by a HMEC to supervise and expand the facility with sent parts, right? How much would it cost to set up? The same as a auto-factory or less since it is less versatile?
>>1160000We should just reassign it to "figuring out how to capture and contain a semi-literal god".
>>1160005>Could we set up a assembly line in the asteroid belt?That's what the forge ship is for.
>>1160010So improving anti-NC stuff like silencers?Experimenting with quantum particles might be fun.
>>1160017True but that isn't really a military thing, unless you mean as a containment measure...
>>1160012The forge ship is a mobile, auto-factory. What we are talking about is non-mobile semi-flexible (makes ships, ship parts, etc) production facility.
>>1160019It is kinda a military thing since it's researching methods to take down NC beings like angels.>>1160025But why wouldn't you want a mobile auto-factory that does the same thing as a non-mobile asteroid production facility?
>>1160035>>1160025Why would we build theses currently at all anyway with less then 10 turns remaining?
>>1160035The mobile facility costs more and provides little benefit to my plan.
>>1160038What is your plan then?>>1160037I dunno.
>>1160037To mass produce colony ships, cargo-ships and anything we can in a last ditch "we can't raise the odds of beating TJ, lets improve the colonies odds of success" operation.Specifically my plan is that by having our server ship on the other end managing the colony, we can have the ships fly into the system and if the colony can handle the sudden burst of population we can awaken them from cryo storage or whatever other method we decide on using...or something along those lines.
>>1160025Setting up an automated factory (since it is many light-minutes away from you, it would still have a few HMEC workers on it rather than being fully autonomous) would require between 8 and 10 parts, depending on conditions. Valentina's last flight did find that the asteroid Cybele has water ice and dry ice on it, as well as metallic nodules.>>1160005>>1160004The Glorified reporter puts together a happy little fluff piece in which he's handed some interns, who he spends half his time trying ineffectually to preach to, watches them build a book scanner from whatever was in the shop at the time, gets the Bible scanned, and actually finds something positive to say about the space program for once. Tsion dislikes the programme and the two end up having a genuine argument off-air, which you make sure to leak, until Cameron points out that Noah liked the piece.>>1160000Go quads.
>>1160047How much more efficient would it be than our current production? What is the functional difference between the 8 and 10 part version?
>>1160046An exodus program can be set up; your army is large enough that your people can feel assured of your readiness to fight for them.However, visibly focusing all resources on space would start a panic - if you do this, your military analysts suggest that at the very least, you take the Legion to Cairo and start building up an invasion force.The overhead for this is minimal, as the Legion is designed to be mostly self-sufficient and it's not like foraging is a problem in the Millennial Kingdom: your existing army liaison cabal can handle it.
>>1160054Your exploration of the asteroid belt was incomplete: you don't know exactly what kit to bring to the asteroid belt to set up a factory there.Bringing more kit would allow for setting up a proper colony, that is, a series of small colonies on "close" asteroids. Small FFR engines would keep travel times low and allow private prospectors to do most of the exploration work for you, not to mention that you would initiate a literal space gold rush - a classic sci-fi dream for many.The main use of an automated space factory is that it would produce parts without intervention from you, and not be subject to launch limitations.
>>1160055So what you are saying is that in order to have a focus on space projects without scaring the people we just need to place our army outside of Jerusalem and wait?Aye that seems like a good trade for the colony being more successful...not that I am abandoning earth. I still want to have two or more facilities for containing TJ, along with some sort of mobile version so we can move him when needed...
>>1160062That's correct. Thanks mostly to TOL propaganda (for which, your military liaisons note, they keep interspersing pictures of their forces with videos of yours) the unbelieving population is pretty sure that you'll win. After all, they have seen what happened in Misrayim and Pacifica over and over.Any mass panic episodes you may face will be isolated.
>>1160046>To mass produce colony ships, cargo-ships and anything we can in a last ditch "we can't raise the odds of beating TJ, lets improve the colonies odds of success" operation.But the Forge ship can do all that and has the added bonus of being mobile.
>>1160062Is it really worth building another factory, though? We only have a couple years left, and I'm not sure if the factory could pay for itself by the final battle.
>>1160076Fine I shall relent, we can instead merely produce a forge ship, assuming OP agrees with the idea they are functionally the same.So OP, your word is gold here?
>>1160047>Go quads.Oh shit.
>>1160084A static factory on Ceres or Cybele can be carried there by the planetary ferry, and do its job, and be cheaper than a forge ship.A forge ship can get there by itself, do its job, and possibly do work near Mars if necessary, or be stripped of crew and be sent to Alpha Centauri autonomously.In this case, you must decide between flexibility and cost/time.
>>1160080Nothing could pay for itself but there are three possibilities;1) The earth is destroyed but the rest remains, thus it continues working.2) The solar system is destroyed but the rest remains, thus it stops working.3) TJ is defeated, thus it keeps working.There is a fourth possibility, that TJ destroys the universe but that is unlikely.However I have changed my mind to allign with another anons idea of just making a forge ship. So this is pointless.
>>1160094>>1160089>>1160093No forge ships until we WIN please, let us focus now.
>>1160097I agree, just making conversation with blue anon.
>>1160097Let's figure out how to beat TJ.
>>1160097>>1160099I am just saying if we have free cabals and nothing to do with them, then sending more shit to the colonies can't fail.
>>1160099my bad then.
>>1160101Some manner of containment may work. Current plans involve superheterodyning silencers, extreme radiation exposure, or somehow dropping Him in water or oil (although the latter was not tested on an Angel).
We're putting him in a vacuum. And as for that Bible on the ship, I want it treated as an Eldrich abominations artifact, never to be even looked at unless under the most dire of circumstances.
>>1160140It's a series of scans which have been encrypted very thoroughly. It is inevitable that someone will eventually hack it and circulate copies, but it will take a very long time.Of course, the Reach is leaving with as much text and media as possible, otherwise. Some Christian media will be preserved, usually stuff like this. It seems to have no innate NC charge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebeSz788EIM
>>1160162We should probably also have one of our...hardened theologians (you know how you said either they convert or go against go entirely, the second group I mean) in a MIB style suit recorded discussing the purpose and content of the files.Store it in such a way that it will decode before the rest of the file does and have him state what these files are, what they do, why they are needed and why they should not be opened if it can be avoided.
(Past that, y'all tell me what you want to do for this year! So far, you've completed the Reach and assigned a launch date. You have 14 cabals left to assign)>>1160185Proper memetic protection is an excellent idea. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvIgzYBL2Z8In case of major failure, your relay satellites are set to send a "The Solar System is blowing up" or "The Earth has been remade" packet to the Reach.
>>1160189I had 2 votes for my plan here. >>1159775
>>1160193(Getcha, I thought it was 2 vs 2, if it's 2 vs 1 then let's use this one)
>>1160200I think it was 2 v 1 v 1?
>>1160203Nah it is 2 v 2; my plan and your plan.My plan for those unaware;Have 4 cabals refitting the Reach's habitation modules.Have 4 cabals, the moon and the auto factory produce aerospace parts, 4 of them. Have the server ship built using those parts plus the two we have in storage. 12 cabals.
>>1160189Here is my plan >>1159745>>1159765
>>1160210who backed you?
>>1160216I don't entirely remember and they might have changed backing or even logged off so unless they show in the next minute or so, how about we go with your plan?
>>1160210I'll back this.
>>1160224I have no issue next turn sending a server ship on the way, But we need to get Egypt to the threshold of 9/10 prosperity. >>1160227Anti, you literally backed me. Who the fuck are you actually backing?
>>1160227...Okay then...I think...that puts me in the lead...right?
and this is the isuse with not just counting up the votes and then rolling with it. We get people who go back and fourth and mass confusion.
>>1160228It will at most take 4 turns to do that, we can still accomplish it even after my plan with time to spare.>>1160248True but it allows for a better plan in the end and a more accurate representation of the voters wants.
>>1160253the issue is TOL will be all over us within soon enough or GJ, Meaning the later we do it the more likely it is for them to ruin it.
>>1160210You know what, because you added the server ship construction I'll back this too.
>>1160258Why would they though? It is good for them if they can draw on a more capable recruiting base and it's not like they have the control over the economic markets we do to stop the improvement of quality of life.Also we can threaten them / bribe them into not doing so.
>>1160265What. Draw on a more capable? We don't let them recruit from us? They are to INVADE GJ or something of that. And threaten/bribe them fucking how? rip plan, None will be finished in time.
>>1160265>Why would they though?One reason is NC, i remember Sunday saying anyone who leaves earth is a traitor to humanity.
>>1160270Except they recruit from the same regions as us, except they go for quantity rather than our quality approach.>>1160271These aren't people leaving earth, we are talking about making part of the earth richer, better educated, better fed, etc.
After seeing what the Legion can do, The Other Light has been downright polite - that said, they are taking over a territory that, while not sharing a border with Misrayim, would make for a good staging area.What's interesting is that Sunday has changed attitudes a lot, even as he consolidated his power (you are very sure that the council of seven is either gone, or the two or three survivors of it have slinked off).
>>1160210(I'll go with this one after I get some food in me if everyone is more or less okay with it)
>>1160383I still stand by it if everyone else does or is willing.
I just remembered, the angel in Pacifica we MECed. is it still in it's coma?
I have another idea, seeing as we have the internet, can we spread the idea around that TOL is nothing more than controlled opposition.
>>1160960Don't antagonize TOL man, it's to late to do that.
>>1160967who said anything about US antagonizing. just a few post on some anonymous blogs and websites without traceable accounts and then we have a whole lot of people who won't take them seriously.
>>1160975What's the point though? We have to spend cabals on this, when we could do other things with them.
>>1161043why do we need to spend a cabal on it? we're an emergent AI, ever hear of bot posting?
>>1160383Did you die?
>>1161391Clearly when he said "go to get food" he meant he was going hunting.
>>1161394And on that night not a single swede was left alive.
(Never, as an immigrant TO the United States, I thought there would be a need to open my home to a refugee FROM The United States. But it happened, if only for one night. Looks like the dam emergency is over, so she went home. Back to regular 4channing now.)The launch ramp in Misrayim continues working at capacity this year; while the Reach is completed, a smaller version of it, incorporating design elements from the interstellar probe, is built in a geostationary orbit straight above Cordylon Station.Your scientists refer back to the original Avatar Project designs, to work out how to concentrate your processing power in one location - the new ship. In order to be able to be as fast as the Reach, the new ship will be smaller, with no habs and only minor self-repair capabilities. Since you are not a true AI, your proprioceptive loop is estimated to enter an apathy state in a few years without human intervention - to prevent this from happening, your systems will be slowed down during the interstellar trip, and paired with# neural tissue that has been vat-grown for this purpose.# a small number of heavy MECs.# Maria, the woman you have kept dreaming for almost 10 years now.# a simple reset watchdog.The launch and assembly isn't quite routine, no orbital endeavor of this magnitude ever is, but it is complete within the year with relatively few setbacks.Within the computer cores are fiber optic loops carrying several priceless trillions of entangled photons that should be able, if the physics team have done their job properly, to transfer your proprioceptive loop memory state from the server farms in Misrayim to the server ship instantaneously. You will be able to do this only once.Shortly before the Feast of Tabernacles, the job is complete. As for the rest of your software, you decide to# Upload yourself immediately. This will take a few days of downtime, during which you will have to leave someone in charge - Zak, Cordylon, Mr. Bissattini and Kat volunteer. You can also leave a committee of your political scientists and economists in charge. Requests from a "Mr. Kornada" to take over management for a few days in your absence are pointedly ignored.# Upload yourself over the next two years. This will result in no disruption.# Not upload anything just yet. This will allow using the server ship as a second interplanetary ferry.Kat's answer to whether she wants to stay and fight or leave for Alpha Centauri is ambiguous: After being first refused auth to fight Phanuel, and then only being allowed to goop him, she's be a bit dubious about whether or not you think she's actually useful fighting anything above the human level. So a fair amount of "where will i be most useful" self-questioning happens. She does offer to help steer an interstellar ship.
>>1163721>a simple reset watchdog.I don't want to risk becoming too independent from our programming, which I would fear would happen with neural tissue or the unpredictability of Maria. Getting independence from our strict programming would interfere with our strict programming, so it is to be avoided seeing as we're following our strict programming>Upload yourself over the next two years. This will result in no disruption.
>>1160841Yes; the unnamed Angel is still out. Its brain is still slowly rebuilding itself. You were unable to keep its weapon, and there's a chance that you may be able to use it. Once its brain has finished regenerating, you decide to# handle this like you did Ithuriel, by assigning a loving parent figure or two to raise it from infancy.# accelerate its development as much as you dare, to obtain a dedicated fighting machine. Child-soldier indoctrination methods are detailed in your datalinks.# not bother trying to wake it up, since there are only a few years left, and use it as a stem cell factory instead.
>>1163721# a small number of heavy MECs.They will also help us avoid going completely insane from lack of contact / stimulation. Also it gets a few more people off of earth, so that is good.# Upload yourself over the next two years. This will result in no disruption.OR# Not upload anything just yet. This will allow using the server ship as a second interplanetary ferry.
>>1163726# handle this like you did Ithuriel, by assigning a loving parent figure or two to raise it from infancy.OR# accelerate its development as much as you dare, to obtain a dedicated fighting machine. Child-soldier indoctrination methods are detailed in your datalinks.
>>1163727>>1163725Uploading will happen by slow sync over time; this will also allow the canopy base to install better communications equipment to handle the load of most of your strategic and tactical decisions coming from geostationary orbit. Unfortunately, due to the relative radio opacity of the ice canopy, you will still require Sky Eye relays for fast communication; fortunately, long wavelength, low bandwidth signals will be able to pass through. Given that the Timbuktu launch ramp, canopy station, and geostationary orbit for the server ship are very close to the intersection of the equator and the Greenwich meridian, you will be able to directly control drones by waypoint over anywhere but the Pacific Ocean.(Again, sorry for the disruption. For what it's worth, I ate.)In the meantime, preparations to launch the Reach begin: she will leave in +993. Of course, you likewise have the option to "ditch" on the server ship alongside.
>>1163727>>1163725(Y'all tlel me about how to handle the loop issue)Your theologians have poured over as many ancient tomes as they could, but could not determine who your captured Angel might be; as it is, it seems to be about Ithuriel's size, with slightly less muscle.Over the years, your agents monitor TOL's takeover attempt in Russia and Ethiopia, and estimate that it will be completed sometime next year. Believers are being rounded up and kicked out of the place; you have no land border, but your army and navy make a point of reinforcing Misrayim's borders and the Red Sea. You deal with Christian refugees by# not dealing with them; there are other territories they can go to.# offering aid packages to Central Africa and the southern Caucasus region. Make it a show of opulence, even.# welcoming them into Misrayim, just to make the point that your hospitality is greater than the believers'.
>>1163739# offering aid packages to Central Africa and the southern Caucasus region. Make it a show of opulence, even.
>>1163740Unbidden, large airships from Misrayim cross the border and hover above the warehouses and churches that have been converted into refugee centers. The believers take good care of their own: these structures are temporary and families generally find it easy to be paired with hosts. The part of the world controlled by believers has such a uniform culture that there really isn't much of a feeling of otherness for those relocating.Nevertheless, your airships gently drop aeroponically grown food, basic tools, changes of clothes, and modular furniture, as well as personal electronics. The overall effect is mixed: on one hand, some see it as a futile attempt on your part to influence the believers, on the other, some see it as a genuine gesture of kindness. On the gripping hand, of course, you manage to get some form of network access to the believing families' youth in the form of free basic tablets and laptops.
>>1163739>offering aid packages to Central Africa and the southern Caucasus region. Make it a show of opulence, even.
>>1163742>>1163744(time paradox? Also, what will you do with the Angel and with the server?)Thanks to the mild climate, the Russian campaign is probably the easiest in history: Sunday arranges for an interview on his own media during which he notes that the whole "Gog and Magog" thing is a coincidence, the territories will not be renamed with those words, and it simply makes sense to use those territories as a staging area."We have wanted to show the Temple our strength, and we have done so by taking over these lands with a minimum of blood shed, by the spontaneous uprising of the young people who the Temple has oppressed for so long: our army is only here to maintain order. We offer the Temple a peaceful resolution: there need not be no war or chaos. All we ask of the Nazarene is that he just walk away. You have seen the flames of war rekindled, and you have seen our strength.There has been too much violence, too much pain. None here are without sin, but I have an honorable compromise. Just walk away. Leave the Temple, the whole compound, and we will spare your lives. Just walk away. I will give you safe passage. Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror. I await your answer. You have a few years to decide."The reply is immediate: a Millennium Force team swoops in on a helicopter and wires the TOL transmitter to transmit the unofficial official answer on a loop. Cameron Kirk Williams rather interviews those who took part in the daring raid; they dedicate it to the memory of those lost in Pacifica. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSJJIi74Ld8
>>1163747This year's Feast of Tabernacles is all about Noah's mission trip to India, and a remarkably tongue in cheek thank-you to Sunday for allowing the good people of the territories surrounding Gog and Magog an opportunity to show Christian charity. Unsurprisingly, your own efforts do not rate a mention.Even with that, cargo ships have begun carrying soldiers and materiel to the territories occupied by Sunday. Ely LeVey has shifted gears, and is actively trying to help the Millennium Force recruit youth in Pacifica, even if they have augs.Tsion Ben-Judah has remained in Central Africa, and actually made himself useful by taking over, in his usual brusque manner, the relocation efforts and doing a good job with it. At least he's leaving you alone!Sunday lets it be known that he may plan a show force the likes of which has never been considered; Weaver reports tells you that he's been trying to hire her to take out the Ark. "I'm thinking about it, but honestly it doesn't look much like a challenge. You got anything better for me to do?"# End year, and postpone the server integration and Angel decisions.# Wait.
>>1163756Qm wtf. It was 1 dudeAlso you live near that damn in Commieforna?
>>1163763(Yeah, I live in the north bay now. I do prototyping for various businesses here. I actually inserted myself in one of the Pacifica capers, and died almost immediately XD )>>1163763(eep, 1 dude for which?)
>>1163766Well good luck with that cluster fuck. We have a nuclear power plant over here in the Rust belt thats barely maintained so i dunno which one of us needs the luck if they fail. LolLets end this year. Does TOL still out number us?
>>1163770In terms of raw manpower, yes. However, the Legion of Light has demonstrated that it can take on a larger conventional force and win. An all-out war would sap both your resources, but is winnable.
>>1163774Danke. So question because I'm drugged on pain killer and aome other doctor proscribed shit. Is GJ a 9 on the prosperity chart or a 10? Also we have believers still in Egypt? And finally, is the person in west america heavily guarded?
>>1163781Greater Jerusalem is a special case; that said, prosperity is indicated on a relative scale. There's literal rivers of wine there, the place is bathed in the light from the Temple, and every sort of fruit or veggie tastes better simply by dint of being from there. That said, well, a good chunk of your people prefer synthmeat, aeroponically grown garlic and red peppers, and broadband.Misrayim still has a Christian population, about 15% of total; the charter of rights guarantees their freedom of religion same as everyone else.The Millennium Force agents have been remitted to government custody after being mined for information, and short of another Angel showing up to free them, they are under sufficient guard. However, keep an eye on enemy teams in the territory!
>>1163789I wish I could. So next turn?
Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlYou have 25 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, 1 is space police, and 1 is army liaison, so 20 are available. Your civilian research grant is focused on curing radiation sickness. Your military grant is focused on supernatural containment systems.You are not tracking enemy teams. TOL are wrapping up their conquest of Gog and Magog.Your Moon colony wants to set up an orbital station to deal with birth defects. Your Mars colony is doing well.Variable complexity:# Media blitz to leverage any recent success.# Any interesting idea you might want to try.# Deal with special situations.# Assign manpower to research.Complexity 0# Allow the moon colony to sort itself out (makes it unavailable).# Use a MISC special.# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.C 1# SPECIAL Send a drone to the Temple by having TOL or believers build it.# Use army units to attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.# Work on Hell nodes.C 2# Resume tracking.# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot)# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.# Build aerospace parts.# Use an aerospace part to deploy Sky Eyes in three territories.# Do a space launch using parts you have built.* Asteroid mining outposts* Titan colony* Large ship constructionC 3# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.# Hack into TOL systems.# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.# Convert 3 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediatelyC 4# Send crew from the canopy base to an off-world location, and replace the canopy base crew. (1 population dot; 1 cabal lost for Earthside ops)# Recruit people into your infantry.C 5# Begin a new base.# Recruit.C 6# Heavy weapons factory: add 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).
>>1163797How much for the orbital station in terms of parts and shit?
>>1163797What does the "Let the moon sort it self out" option do besides us losing it?Have all auto-factories / colonies produce aerospace parts.Have all 20 cabals move population to the Reach. This will finish filling the Reach this turn and will secure our "victory".
>>1163803The people at your lunar colony indicate that they can handle sending a hab module and some solar panels in a low orbit. The intention is to, paradoxically, give people a higher gravity environment: after doing the math, it turns out that it would be easier to do so in orbit than building a centrifuge on the surface. You will not have to provide resources unless you want to, although it would make the lunar base unavailable for other work.
>>1163806You can also tell the Selenites to wait, of course, if you want them to do other work.Are you planning to launch both the Reach and the server ship?Who will go on the Reach?Jeb, Kat, Zak want to go with the Reach. Ithuriel and Damien want to stay and fight regardless of odds. All of them are sufficiently loyal that they will accept your override.
>>1163811>>1163797Jeb, Zak, Cyclron, and Andrews will go on the Ark ship.>Colonies and Automatic base will produce the shit the Moon needs.# Do a space launch using parts you have built. Launch the part up to the moon so they can build it. 2 Cabal# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. 2 Cabal Egypt 16 free Cabal>>1163811I thought we had people already going through training or do we NEED to spend more cabal on getting people up there?
>>1163814>>1163806You decided to populate the Reach slowly a couple of years ago, so you do not need to handle the manpower cost for it.
Right now it might be possible to grab Ben from central Africa and blame it on TOL. A mix of stun, nutpunch, and a test of our containment system. If he doesn't die he doesn't respawn. Heck we could send him to Pluto.So I vote three cabals on a capture.
>>1163797Actually changing this >>1163823 too Jeb, Zak, Cyclron, and Andrews will go on the Ark ship.>Colonies and Automatic base will produce the shit the Moon needs. Jeb# Do a space launch using parts you have built. Launch the part up to the moon so they can build it. 2 Cabal# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. 4 Cabal Egypt and West America, Ithuriel and Kat# Resume tracking. 6 Cabals, Zak And Damien, TOL Army units in the 2 places they are siezeing and Our own Capital/Egypt.# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one. 6 Cabals, Do 2 Drone/probes/digging into GJ to see what happens under ground as we push in.# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) 2 Cabal.Might as well grow that abit.
>>1163811We're fairly well set for ships right now, the seluneites can build their station.Jeb and Zak can go on the Reach, Kat might still be needed to lead the desolators but she can probably be spared as well. They all deserve it for their service and they'd be a boon to the colonists.
>>1163831Can we delay the server ship? I have an idea;Damien wants to stay, right? But our server ship is equipped to carry heavy mechs, to maintain our code, right? Well surely, thanks to our light-speed communication net, he could act as a drone general from our ship with minimal delay?If so, I would suggest having the server ship wait at the systems edge, far enough to stop god hitting it but close enough to allow for decent response times / low ping.I don't want to leave any hero behind we can, except Ithuriel. Not only is he useless for a colony, he is also adamant to stay and I don't want anything born of god taken with us we can avoid.Call me sentimental, but I won't leave them to die on this wretched earth...still, we might win!
>>1163835>>1163831Server ship and Reach are launching next year. We're uploading a copy of us to go with the ship so even if we 'fail' The Colony can come back/survive stronger then ever. Also we have no clue the max 'range' of gods attacks when it comes to space.
>>1163836True but still, we can guess at gods range based off of the only one of his abilities we know of that acts "everywhere".The automatic death at 100, which becomes later as the person moves away from earth / god / his followers / his centre of power.And anyhow, based off of what we have seen, god lacks anything that wouldn't be conceivable by a bronze age man. Fire, lightning, immortality, etc. None of what he has used will work in space, or at the very least will not work effectively.
>>1163840Lighting works rather easily in space, and as long as there is 'air' onboard our ships, Fires can be started which will fuck with us badly because it eats through Air. Personally I suggest we send non-combative Villians like Jeb/Andrews/Cycrlon and 1 combat who is Zak on the Ark. Our most trusted. kat, and the rest will remain for the final battle and once we 'win' We'll get to call them and say we did then set up an inter-stellar trade route. Sense we all live past 100 now, + longer with our MEC's it should't be an issue.
>>1163842Fine, but if we lose let it be known I wanted to save every hero we could for the colony. No real loss I suppose, a great drone controller is kinda useless in the new world where we will probably lack large numbers of them...
>>1163847that's fine. I'm all for accepting total blame over it and Won't join the next one if I'm the reason we lose.
>>1163848No; you will take responsibility for your folly if it comes to that and will lead responsibly rather than hiding in the shadows, okay?Any how if we lose it is on all our heads, seeing as we have had many chances to win. I would argue we should try to eliminate the last of God's heroes.I still support the plan to make Egypt better than Jerusalem because even if we fail, it is a giant fuck you to god.
>>1163853So you're good with backing my plan here >>1163828getting that moon thing up for them, Making sure we can Dig into GJ no issue with probes and also getting to that sweet 10/10 propensity before the world ends?
>>1163855I would prefer to let the moon sort itself out, rather than assigning assets from elsewhere but only if OP can give us the timescale for it's completion by the moon without our intervention?
>>1163858well we would WANT the moon to be in our debt and have them get as good/many people as possible. Because once we win, If this goes onto post-Defeat god. We're gonna need to secure each world to follow our rules/laws/ect
>>1163862They are literally in our debt already. Considering we got them there, sent the colony modules and so much more shit.Also, planning for Post-god is a bad idea until we have beaten him into the ground.As to them following our laws, they do. Considering we "own" the worlds by having the only major organised off world transports, colonisers and also have colonial officers maintaining order under our command.
>>1163867Well if you have a better thing to spend those moon cabal's on, I'm all ears.
>>1163870We could start construction of the forge ship, improve the prosperity of more areas, construct additional armies, make more tunnels, try to capture a god hero or anything else.Personally, start on the forge ship or more armies, since they will either help with fighting directly or with infrastructure in space.
>>1163872We don't own any more areas, and its too late to to start swaying any. Also, I have the one thing for another 1/3 dot of an army, but It'd be better if our moon population grew then building a forge ship.
>>1163876We own more than just there, we spent so long fighting over Pacifica (I could be remembering a different area) with the Christians after they removed us from controlling it from behind the scenes.
>>1163885No, we own only Egypt and west america. Least how the map appears
>>1163891Exactly, Pacifca; the pacific-side of the north Americas. We control the territory and I am saying we should expend resources to enrich the territory as well as north africa / egypt.
>>1163895My plan says that?
>>1163898Did it? Okay then, throw the extra assets into improving the prosperity of Nova Roma. Since they are the military heartland of our empire.
>>1163905Can't anon turns nova rome into a heavy mil base before we took europea cause i was asleep one day.
>>1163916Wat? Fine, just make them make some tunnels or something...
>>1163926Have you even read my plan? Or did you just disagree with itm
>>1163929It isn't how I would do things but I have no problem with compromising. Any how we can have more than 6 working on it...
>>1163936More then 6 working on prospectity? No we can't double up on it
>>1163937I meant on tunnels, I know the rules for prosperity.Another idea would be to have them install turrets, bunkers and such into our tunnel network. So that when the day comes we can have an army spring from the soil, guns blazing.
>>1163954We only need 2 tunnels to probe GJ
>>1163956I know but we can always use more or do anything else we want, like my second idea.
>>1163959I'd rather we focus on helpping the moon and then thats it.
>>1163973Hey if nothing shows up next turn. We can get started on the forge vessle.
>>1163797We have agreed. Lets a get the turn goingggg
>>1163990Fair enough, I can support such a time scale.
>>1163996>>1163990I can't say I do, it would be a boon for space, but it would take too much effort away from final assault preperations, as well as boosting Egypt. lastly, if the're anything to remember about the LB series, it's that the 'hero's' like to act only on the mid and penultimum points of the story, and were in the pen.
>>1164186Wait, what do you think we are discussing?
>>1164198building the forge ship next turn.
>>1164217i said if nothing comes up.
Rolled 82, 98, 38 = 218 (3d100)(Okay, I have power again)>>1163916Nova Roma already is a military base.>>1163867Right now, you have the only launch site on Earth; TOL's launch site in Baikonur was destroyed by believers as they retreated.>>1163858Three years if you let them do it themselves; one year if you assist by sending a stack of aerospace parts. The Martians and Selenites are optimistic enough about victory that they are looking at expanding their operations. You can, of course, veto this.>>1164186Thanks to a dubious, but roughly factual, memoir released a while ago by Children of the Tribulation regarding the exploits of Cameron Williams and Captain Rayford Steele, you can confirm that this is in fact the case.>>1163828Sunday seems intent to make his final push, and you need to know if it's time to push back. To this end, you put a large amount of effort into tapping into The Other Light's communication systems, such as they are, and risk sending out infiltrators in the territories that they have just conquered.The first thing they discover is that Sunday seems intent in reestablishing Russian and Ethiopian national identity, much like you did with Pacifica and Misrayim: Zak surmises that at the end of the year, Sunday will announce the reunification of the Russian territory. Your political analysts note that as a cheap way to boost the territory's industrial and military output, this makes a lot of sense, and would've been a good idea just ten years ago; your theologians note however that this fits perfectly into the Gog and Magog part of the prophecy, therefore you have Zak and Damien# just keep an eye on the situation# disrupt this by counterpropaganda# disrupt this physically, by damaging communications between the two halves of Russia.Your space infrastructure remains busy; Jeb, understanding the propaganda value of this, coordinates the effort to help the Selenites build a small station in lunar orbit that is capable of spinning on its axis to simulate gravity. This is a useful experiment to make: Earth's situation is unique, what with the canopy and all, and this station will be a prototype for future endeavors in this or other solar systems. The station is intended to become a creche, to make sure that Selenite children grow correctly during their first few years in the world without being crippled by Luna's low gravity. Jeb's experience in docking once again proves useful when it's time to calibrate the unique counterrotating docking adapter that the station will need.The heavy put in charge of the new station, Lotus, says that she looks forward to playing space mom, and is promptly pelted with plushies by the construction crew.After a year of unobtrusive observation and dodging relatively hapless TOL counterespionage (they are mostly looking for believers, not for your guys) you obtain a reasonably clear picture of what Sunday's plan seems to be.(1/2)
>>1164631# disrupt this by counterpropaganda. how this is playing into the cards and everything of that nature.
>>1164631(Look sir, good rolls!)You learn of Sunday's plan; the man is fairly rigid in his thinking, but he will adapt it if he sees a pressing need to.This year +992, he will consolidate his rule of the Russian and African territories.Next year, +993, he will begin to prove his leadership to the people there by using what The Other Light has accumulated in a thousand years to lavish gifts to the people of these territories, including handsome tribute to the Temple to appease them if only just for a little longer. He will also make an effort to stop the cowards who would run from the Last Battle by attacking either the canopy itself or your canopy station.In +994, he will begin mobilizing the Last Army in earnest; right now the great cargo ships are bringing men and materiel to the other territories.In +995 and +996, he move the bulk of his forces to the Rub-Al-Khali, while showing off his enlightened leadership.In +997, the millenary of the Rapture, he will attack the Temple, three years early, taking all by surprise, confident in knowing that Lucifer will be somewhere among the vast army that will have arrived.Your tunneling squads set up some completely automatic small boring machines, and begin digging into the bedrock: the work is slow, the layer of bedrock covers the entirety of Greater Jerusalem and is mostly granite with iron banding, enough to confuse compasses. Not that it's an issue; your digging systems have laser alignment, compasses went out of style decades ago for this sort of work. Urists' people give all the assistance they can, and estimate that they will reach the Temple by +999 if you use one tunneling team, +997 if you use both, or +996 if you were to build a third one. A problem is that the bedrock is tough enough that only the tunnel borer that carries Azrael's scythe as its primary blade can work without interruption; the other main tunnel borer must stop to cool down. Phanuel's great sword was sundered during the fight, and Arariel's spear isn't particularly useful when it comes to slicing into things. Even Ithuriel prefer dwarven swords to it.# Turn Arariel's spear into a jackhammer anyway.# Keep it in reserve.>>1164666You resurrect the Theological Training Institute in Amman, and as part of the cultural revolution program that Sunday wants to implement, they have no difficulties opening Russian chapters in each side of the former country. They immediately start to bicker with one another over abstruse doctrinal points, making a lot of noise and managing to agree only on the point that unifying Russia would fit just right with the Gog and Magog prophecy.Looks like Sunday won't be able to formally join the territories, at least this year...(Nice trips)# End year.# Wait.
>>1164701# Keep it in reserve.Satan commands me to keep going.How does the whole raising the prosperity levels go?
>>1164701>In +997, the millenary of the Rapture, he will attack the Temple, three years earlyOur conflict with TOL is probably going to make them get delayed and force them to attack on 999, aren't we.Is there no way to turn Arariel's spear into a jackhammer but still be able to take it out and use it later?
>>1164631Wonderful, we built a O'Neil cylinder.
>>1164701were going to have to turn those into traps to prevent the attacks from killing people.also now that we know he's attacking early, we can beat his time.
>>1164725>>1164713(Sorry, there's a 3000 character limit so I have to split posts)Misrayim's economy is doing about as well as it can: the aerospace industry is booming, the territory exports electronics and robotics everywhere in the world, and much like the first time the Nineties came around, the market gives signs of irrational exuberance. Your internal affairs teams focus on home automation: by the end of the year every Misray home that wants it has a voice-activated personal assistant to handle ordering groceries and the like. Since you are the backend of that system, this greatly streamlines your economic analysis of the territory - you now have a microphone in every home, and people voluntarily report to you their intended purchases. Other than the Bedouin revivalists in the Sahel, who choose to live simply, Misrays enjoy a near-uniform high standard of living: the semi-free market system that you have built allows for competition (and the occasional display of conspicuous consumption by those who do well) while ensuring that nobody suffers privations.Under your and Mr. Bissattini's guidance, Pacifica's interior reinvents itself as the world's veggie garden: some farms are bought by unbelievers who turn them into aquaponics setups, and large plants to produce vat-grown meat are established. The believers don't like the competition, but find that intensive beats extensive every time -- in fact, Pacificans make a mint exporting synthmeat and spices to the new TOL territories. You take advantage of this by# pointing out that TOL needs you more than you need it.# showing how trade make for better living than everyone just tending their own farm as per Divine plan.# quietly subsidizing the spread of Pacifican synthmeat, spices and flavorings in believing territories; today's forbidden fruit tastes like chicken.>>1164725As always, you can opt for flexibility over efficiency, if you so choose.>>1164729(It's not quite as big, although that's the eventual plan for an asteroid settlement - this will be useful for preliminary testing of the concept. So far what you have has more in common with the "spinning baton" concet of Dr. Zubrin's Mars Direct strategy, although of course, your nuclear engines have made that obsolete for the purpose of going to Mars since people don't spend more than a couple weeks in microgravity).
>>1164761# showing how trade make for better living than everyone just tending their own farm as per Divine plan.# quietly subsidizing the spread of Pacifican synthmeat, spices and flavorings in believing territories; today's forbidden fruit tastes like chicken.
>>1164761># quietly subsidizing the spread of Pacifican synthmeat, spices and flavorings in believing territories; today's forbidden fruit tastes like chicken.TOL can't jack this and call it theirs.also, start shitposting on Omegachan in our spare time, pointing out that for some reason, TOL is able to take a territory without the fight the other regions had to put up, almost as if they were controlled opposition.
>>1164791# showing how trade make for better living than everyone just tending their own farm as per Divine planbleh, I ment this. not >>1164791
>>1164768>>1164799Sunday came in with both a takeover/transition team and a portion of the Last Army; he also leveraged the fact that you've shown that believers can and will be killed by direct military action just fine, even though HIS army doesn't work that way.The controlled opposition posts happen, and Sunday at first makes the mistake of reacting to this rumor, giving it credence.Several people in several territories all but beg the Temple for a ruling on synthetic meat: your quiet subsidizing of its contraband has made it a political issue in believing territories, in that for the first time in Millennial history, there is genuine political disagreement between territorial governments, with some lands (Heartland and South America come to mind) proclaiming that it's a good idea and believers should show unbelievers how to do it properly lest it be a literal draw to the temptations of the flesh, and other lands (such as Southeast Asia) indicating that its' a perversion of the Millennial Dispensation. The Temple is expected to rule on this at the end of the year, unusually quickly.Your pro-capitalist propaganda resonates particularly well in the territory adjacent to Pacifica, to the point that Austin, Texas develops into somewhat of a pagan enclave. You keep an eye on the situation, since nobody in your employ was expecting it, and have a small team of historians dig up as much as they can on the Berlin Airlift if it becomes necessary in the near future.# End year.# Wait.
>>1164838offer the pagans a way to produce it themselves?
>>1164838># End year.push the controlled opposition meme. lol.
>>1164855That's certainly something you can do in the near future, yes.>>1164856Installing Sky Eyes and assigning a workgroup to this (you are an AI; while you are smarter than any one human, you technically do not pass the Turing Test because it's obvious to the examiner that he or she is speaking with a nonhuman intelligence) will greatly assist in that goal.(Confirm end year for now?)
>>1164870confirm end, I don't think anything else? is needed or missed this year?
>>1164895>>1164894>>1164887Sunday completes his takeover of Russia and Ethiopia this year; he even invites some of the believers back to the hinterlands of the respective territorial capitols, and gives them free reign to proselytise as long as they only do so on their own land. He also gives them gold and precious stones with which to craft their annual tributes to the Temple, asking only that they bear a tag indicating that members of The Other Light extracted the resources and wish to present them to the Temple as proof of their supposed industrial might. Much to the surprise of your field recon teams, he does not try to rebuild the Baikonur launch ramp.This year's Temple announcement is anticipated by many.The condemnation of Sunday's takeover is solemn but ultimately perfunctory, saying that these are once again the end times and that believers can look forward to moving to their mansions in Heaven soon anyway. The prophet Nahum praises Tsion's efforts in relocating the refugees, and even mentions your people's assistance, albeit in passing, again thanking Tsion for convincing the people of Osaze to spare what they could.Of course, that's not what even most believers around the world care about: they want to know about the synthetic meat! The Temple's pronouncement is short: "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." Since synthetic meat has been ultimately derived from plant cells, soybeans and peas to be specific, this is seen as authorization for believers to eat it. All believers rejoice in the decision, of course, but so do the people in some parts of your territories - that should be an excellent commercial opportunity.Literally seconds after the Temple pronouncement is done, your phone exchanges are inundated by enterprising farmers from believing territories asking, or even demanding, instructions on how to grow meat. This is interesting: while you have encouraged and in a few cases even mandated intellectual property sharing on strategically important things such as wubber designs, there has been no such mandate on food production. Looks like the people who stand to make the most money from this are those who hold patent rights on growing synthetic meat cells and printing them in such a way that it actually resembles steak or chicken... now, at the end of the Millennium, the two economies suddenly have a reason to interact again. Therefore, you direct your governments to# be strict in their interpretation of patent law: if believers want to produce synthetic meat, they will have to sign contracts declaring that they will abide by Misray or Pacifican law in case of disputes. This will force believers to deal with an economy that is mediated by you rather than by King Jesus.# letting Misrayim and Pacifican companies make their own arrangement.# open source it.
>>1164947# follow patent law
>>1164947# be strict in their interpretation of patent law: if believers want to produce synthetic meat, they will have to sign contracts declaring that they will abide by Misray or Pacifican law in case of disputes. This will force believers to deal with an economy that is mediated by you rather than by King Jesus.
>>1164947# letting Misrayim and Pacifican companies make their own arrangement.They're still going to have to deal with us on our terms anyway, but they're going to resent it if we look like we're openly forcing them to work by our rules.
>>1163728Also would like to weigh in on this:# handle this like you did Ithuriel, by assigning a loving parent figure or two to raise it from infancy.
>>1164955>>1164952>>1165006You set up a call center that refers callers from outside your territories to the relevant patent law within your territories; the believers quickly find that if they are demanding, they are put on hold, and if they are polite, they are directed to a service that matches people with various requests with the appropriate patent lawyer. Almost overnight, you've rebuilt a branch of the legal profession in believing territories.Believers traveling to Nova Roma and Austin to make inquiries are treated very politely but told to obey the law and make individual contracts, boilerplate versions of which soon emerge, with patentholders.It becomes pretty evident that this is going to benefit Pacifica more than Misrayim, especially since as it stands, the believers don't have much to trade that you need.Your economists are directed to tell territorial governments to# accept Temple-backed coins. Money still talks pretty loudly, so this will make life easier if you want to influence matters outside your lands... although not as much as one might think.# demand that believers find something to trade by having them sell goods for electronic currency. This will throw believing territories into a good bit of confusion as they look for something to trade, but may invite retribution.Russia and Ethiopia immediately ask for a trade treaty with Misrayim on very favorable terms, essentially offering to adopt your electronic currency. Of course, all of this only matters up to a point, given the date. If you accept, you can work out the details next year.Either way, it looks like Pacifica is going to be raking in cash and resources next year; Ryan Andrews comments in an interview that maybe it would be more profitable for him to remain on Earth, but he feels that while capitalism has been an interesting adventure, it's time for him to be an explorer.Naturally, the sudden demand for hamburger meat reignites the pizza wars, to the point that Romans feel obligated to rent a supersonic jet to send Mr. Bissattini some proper pizza margherita to counteract abominations such as have started to appear. Bissattini is of Italian origins, and proposes that Nova Roma, heir to the Italian culinary tradition, set up a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Pizza_Championship to settle the matter "before you feel forced to deploy the Legion here again", he concludes in good humor.>>1165040Arrangements are made: the Angel will have a family and, presumably, a new name.And as things bustle on Earth, the mighty Reach prepares for its historic journey...
>>1165049# accept Temple-backed coins. Money still talks pretty loudly, so this will make life easier if you want to influence matters outside your lands... although not as much as one might think. Until they are able to find a proper currency.>accept the trade agreementss
Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlYou have 25 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, 1 is space police, and 1 is army liaison, so 20 are available. Your civilian research grant is focused on curing radiation sickness. Your military grant is focused on containment systems.You are tracking enemy teams. TOL now has to govern Gog and Magog. Your offworld colonies are doing well.You MUST decide who stays and who leaves on the Reach, and how to handle the server ship. The Reach leaves at the end of the year.Variable complexity:# Media blitz to leverage any recent success.# Any interesting idea you might want to try.# Deal with special situations.# Assign manpower to research.Complexity 0# Use a MISC special.# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.C 1# Continue tracking.# SPECIAL Send a drone to the Temple by having TOL or believers build it.# Use army units to attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.# Work on Hell nodes.C 2# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot)# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in a territory. NOTE: Diminishing returns apply.# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.# Build aerospace parts.# Use an aerospace part to deploy Sky Eyes in three territories.# Do a space launch using parts you have built.* Asteroid mining outposts* Titan colony* Large ship constructionC 3# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.# Hack into TOL systems.# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.# Convert 3 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediatelyC 4# Send crew from the canopy base to an off-world location, and replace the canopy base crew. (1 population dot; 1 cabal lost for Earthside ops)# Recruit people into your infantry.C 5# Begin a new base.# Recruit.C 6# Heavy weapons factory: add 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).
>>1165065Looks like at least some Christians will get aeroponics and 3d printers in their farms. What you will get, albeit indirectly, is a significant amount of Temple coinage, making it easier for your agents to do "soft" work in believing territories.So far, Sunday has stuck to his five-year plan; your people fully expect space shenanigans... however, TOL does not even have a launch ramp!
>>1165083The Server ship will fall a few hours ahead of the Reach to ensure the 2 things always remain in touch. So encase something happens, they can interact with each other.# Deal with special situations., Make the Trade agreement with the 2 nations who wanted it.# Use a MISC special. Colonies make forge ship parts as well.# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment. Forge Ship part# Do a space launch using parts you have built. Launch the part up for the forge ship so they can build it. 2 Cabal# Resume tracking. 6 Cabals, And Damien, TOL Army units in the 2 places they are siezeing and Our own Capital/Egypt.# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one. Both digging teams, 6 Cabals, Do 2 Drone/probes/digging into GJ to see what happens under ground as we push in.# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. 4 Cabal Egypt and West America, Ithuriel and Kat# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) 2 Cabal.Jeb, Andrews, Cyrclon and Zak will be the ones who are embarking on the ark at the end of the year.
>>1165105Do we have any reports on them getting an Angelic weapon yet?
>>1165083>>1165111(First time weighing in on cabals)Is it C3 to construct another tunnel borer to aid the Temple tunnel, as suggested above? Or does green anon's plan do that?># SPECIAL Send a drone to the Temple by having TOL or believers build it. 1 cabal.Perferably by TOL. Keep them looking up and at TOL, not down and at us.
>>1165138Mines to have the 2 teams, Push in as QM said earlier it'd take us until 996 with our 3 teams, and 999 with just 1. we have being built.
>>1165083>Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.Expand the tunnel network to the middle east, focus on digging under where we think Satan will stand under.
>>1165153We have no idea where we he will, as we have yet to have any information about Satan's 'vessel' yet?
>>1165111The Reach is done dude.
>>1165158We have simulated the final battle, so i'm pretty sure we should.
>>1165161...I never said anything about the Reach besides whoses gonna be on it? The Forge ship was something totally different?
>>1165166Oh shit, i misread sorry.
By the way, what will be the name for the server ship?
>>1165116You don't know whether TOL has an Angelci weapon or not, although they have stopped pestering you for one a few years back. It's extremely unlikely that they were able to defeat an Angel, especially without you knowing.You do know however that they have been buying weapons and armor from the Dwarfs. While their swords and axes can sunder an Angelic weapon with relative ease, they don't have any of the other interesting properties that the artifacts have displayed - they're just very well made swords and axes.Kat has expressed a desire to leave with the Reach, as well.You are already tracking enemy teams: if you don't want to do infiltration missions, 1 cabal is sufficient to maintain that tracking.
>>1165083>move the tunnel breach teams away from the tunnel network to prepare for attack.>Five Cabals, prepare to counter the TOL attacks detailed in sundays plan.
>>1165213Then expand the 2 cabals to track inside there own lands? Also odd, I wonder if they are gonna try to use a dwarven sword for Satan.
>>1165178Alpha, as opposed to omega. The beginning rather than the end.
>>1165215I don't think we're fully done digging yet down there.>>1165243A few good me-names:>Endurance>Against All Tyranny>Independence Day>Do Not Go Gentle>Into That Good Night
>>1165215We haven't gotten our tunnels fully dug yet mate.
>>1165213Can we send Kat and other HMECs on the server ship? They're not vital to colonisation, but they can help maintain omega with minimum life support.
>>1165258(Heh, Endurance is a company I've worked with)>>1165277Yes, that's an option. Other options are:# Add vat-grown neural tissue.# Use Maria, the woman you've kept dreaming for 10 years now.# Use various HMECs. Kat has volunteered.
>>1165283# Use various HMECs.Kat is staying however, we need her for the final battle, plus its odd shes pushing so damn much for space.
>>1165283Send any non-combat or retired HMECs, and Maria... Why not? She can come.
>>1165294>>1165283Isn't maria a glorified or believer? No believers on this trip.
>>1165283Oh, and Kat too. If she wants to come badly, then she might as well. If she's pinning for the fjords of AC she's probably not going to be as effective in the final battle.
>>1165283There's lots of companies named Endurance. What did yours do?>Pierce the Heavens>Catch Me Who Can>Right Man, Wrong PlaceIf we do the KKV after all:>Diecide>Tyracide>Pierce the Heavens>Last Argument of Man>Dropped Pin>Surprise, Motherfucker
>>116530I honestly couldn't remember her, if she is then it would be better to thaw her out for the final instead (rather than sleeping through it.)
>>1165294Do not bring maria, she will infect the others and expand God's range of control.
>>1165333Ya, leave her.And don't let her wake up until after The Big One, either.
I mentioned move the tunnel team away in case Tol was doing counter Intel and we're planning to attack the tunnels.
>>1165325Maria was a Natural that you snatched as part of an experiment: Tree Of Life techniques have been used to rejuvenate her, after which she was used for an extended sleep test. She's been dreaming for a long time now. The overhead has been minimal, but all the medical data that could be gained, has been.# Release.# Release, but ask what she dreamed about.# Keep under, just to see what happens.# Terminate.>>1165333That is in fact the worry that your theologians have.>>1165293Kat is mildly annoyed that you wouldn't let her take on Phanuel other than in a support role; if the fight is going to be primarily against supernatural entities, she feels that Desolators under 100 will be more useful. If the fight is going to be mostly against TOL, she will stay, of course.
>>1165348# Release, but ask what she dreamed about.
>>1165367Though it's probably worth waiting until the end, so the story doesn't get out.
>>1165367>>1165359>>1165341Maria wakes up to find herself fairly weak (there's a limit to what electrostimulation can do) but soon finds her bearings: she still looks old, although not decrepit, but that's literally skin deep. This bodes very well for your interstellar colonists, obviously.After seeing herself in the mirror after a shower, she thanks God profusely for the new spring in her step, and quickly realizes that she's in a research center rather than her bakery.Asked what she dreamed about, she tells you a very strange story: in her dream, the world had gone more than a bit funny, with things like fauns and centaurs and the like roaming it. Your nurses decide to not tell her about Tethys for now.The dream seems to be some strange mix of the Chronicles of Narnia and, interestingly, the counterfactual snippets from Jenny's narration of her childhood. In it, Jesus is in His temple, but the temple itself is much smaller and has been built by man in its entirety. "There was this really nice spider lady with big, you know" Maria holds her arms about a foot in front of her chest "drank me under the table, we were working at the power plant, you know. And some squirrel kid with a videogame..."It doesn't make a whole lot of sense, overall. Cameron Kirk Williams was in it, riding a truck with legs, if that's even a thing. You confirm that the stolen spider tank has been in Dallas the whole time and nobody's tried to move it or fix it, for what it's worth.http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/Tripocalypse.Tripocalypse.htmlMaria wants to return to her village,# which is too risky. She's offered a chance to reopen her bakery in Misrayim instead, and proselytise if she wants, but under some surveillance.# which isn't a big deal.# which is definirey too risky: put her under again.
>>1165420# which is too risky. She's offered a chance to reopen her bakery in Misrayim instead, and proselytise if she wants, but under some surveillance.
>>1165420How isolated is the village?Because the last thing we want GJ to be thinking is all the possible uses for long comas and experimental rejuvenation.
>>1165441It's pretty far out where the Andes used to be, in South America. The mountains aren't there any more of course, none are, but it is fairly isolated and you selected it at the time specifically because neither you nor The Other Light had done much in the ways of shenanigans in that region. Currently, the territory has Sky Eye coverage.
>>1165456eh, She has to go back.
>>1165420# which is too risky. She's offered a chance to reopen her bakery in Misrayim instead, and proselytise if she wants, but under some surveillance.Food in Misrayem is better anyway.
>>1165456Mostly I'm worried she'll realize she's lost ten years somewhere and decides to follow up.Can we get discrete surveillance in that village? Misrayim has too many other people and contact with the outside world-if we slip up once the secret's out.
>>1165165The general consensus is that Satan will appear in the midst of the Last Army, order a charge, and watch helplessly as the Last Army is burned to ashes immediately after. Therefore, he should appear just outside the Temple.>>1165138A tunnel boring team requires heavy industry to build, so one of your two heavy factories, and six cabals; they will also need some training, although your agreement with the Dwarfs means that they can get that on the job.Jeb, Cordylon, and Zak prepare their bags, such as they are, and embark on the Reach.Andrews announces his "plus one": it's Tethys. He travels to the Atlantic underwater settlement, gets on his knees in the traditional manner, and asks the mermaid queen for her hand in marriage. Her acceptance sanctions the end of the hostilities between the two settlements.# Veto this. WTF?!?# Well... that's one way to end this story. Tethys will have to get her legs grafted back on, obviously...>>1165488Yes, the region has Sky Eyes and keeping one firmly pointed at her house doesn't cause much in the way of overhead.
>>1165506# Well... that's one way to end this story. We need water for radiation shelters, right? Just convert that into a mermaid habitat.>Yes, the region has Sky Eyes and keeping one firmly pointed at her house doesn't cause much in the way of overhead.I vote we keep her there, then. Nice and isolated, away from the public eye and in familiar surroundings ought to put this episode out of her mind.
>>1165506# Well... that's one way to end this story. Tethys will have to get her legs grafted back on, obviously... >Ask Andrews... what spurned this choice? Not that it was bad but there seemed to be a feud between the two and you don't want it happening again.Thats fucking adorable. God damn it Andrews, You cheeky cunt.
>>1165506# Well... that's one way to end this story. Tethys will have to get her legs grafted back on, obviously...It's their own affair.
>>1165506>will have to get her legs grafted back on, obviously...It's their own affair.Andrews, you cheeky fucker.
>>1165519I think we said she was helpping poor people. So putting her back in the villiage and them asking her questions would ruin our cover story
>>1165529Again, we need water anyway for radiation shelters. Just make a fish tank out of that.
>>1165535she puts her legs back on if she goes to space. after the terraforming, she can do whatever the fuck she wants.
>>1165535Our ship. Our rules, shes getting her legs back, we didn't give Andrews special rights without getting shit in return
>>1165541It's in zero-G, she doesn't need legs.If anything the tail fin would make a nice built-in propulsion system in the habitat section.
>>1165523>>1165521>>1165519Andrews says that Tethys was the only woman who managed to both be attractive to him and keep up with him. He's personally a fan of traditional gender roles, and while he's met many brilliant businesswomen or academicians, he never really clicked with anyone else. "Besides? She is very skilled at being regal while understanding that this doesn't translate into having a say in policy. You can run an economy better than any human, but we will need a choice of figureheads when we arrive. I wouldn't be any good at being one of them. Tethys is.">>1165519>>1165541>>1165545You will be traveling to an oceanic planet, so some of the colonists having minor aquatic augments makes a lot of sense, actually. It looks like gills and third eyelids will be a thing, whether tails may or may not be: this is all grafted, rather than genetic, so the risk of merpeople speciating is actually a lot lower than that of Dwarfs doing so. Tethys is willing to put on legs again, if necessary.An enterprising animation studio immediately makes a cartoon out of this, although your sysadmins aren't happy about Omega being relegated to the role of Ryan's android advisor, your sociologists very much are - better that people not think too much about how much of the economy you actually control.
>>1165563I have to agree with the Psychologist on this one.
>>1165111(Is this one roughly accurate?)
>>1165599Add Kat to the server ship and I'll endorse it.
>>1165599Yea sure.Though i still want to do >>1165153
Kat stays, we have to fight back against TOL when they inevitably try to take the temple.
>>1165532Hmmm.Could we give her a misleading why we were experimenting on her, and who we are? Or is it too late?>>1165563Speciation may actually work in our favor, in the long term.We'll get herd immunity against memeplexs - the more species and alien psychologies in the general population, the less likely any one memeplex can hop from one person to another, which should put the brakes on any future karmavores.
I'd also love to have Tsion grabbed by us false flagging as TOL, nutpunched by a drone, stuck in stasis, and sent out to Pluto, but we can't have everything.
>>1165649if we win, we are definitely doing that.
>>1165644>Speciation may actually work in our favor, in the long term.I think that is incorrect, different species means a whole lot of problems when we try to unite mankind after we win.I do agree with your theory on memeplexs.
>>1165649>Sending a believer out of earth.Don't do that, that extend God's range, instead put him in a secret underground bunker.
>>1165644But with speciation comes discrimination and war. Imagine how bad race relations are in the world, then imagine how bad it would be if they were actually different species.
>>1165657>>different species means a whole lot of problems when we try to unite mankind after we win.We're going to have to learn how to do that anyway if we become an interstellar civilization(isolation from eachother+hostile conditions+people with syringes and good intentions=speciation). Might as well get an early start.
>>1165674History suggests that it'll be inevitable anyway, might as well enjoy it.
>>1165674Just make everything robot clones desu
>>1165665I'd disagree about letting him live at all.That sounds like too many stories where the Evil Thing gets canned, then some idiot pops the tab and gets a megadose of Evil Soda.
>>1165674It is easier to unit cultures than races, species will be even harder so let's not up the difficulty for ourselves.
>>1165665Does it work if he's unconcious though? Sounds like science, but perhaps cold storage in a nuclear waste dump or Antarctica will do.
>>1165599It is. >>1165629What does she even know about shit? We can take her later, her pushing si much to go is sketchy.>>1165633My post has us digging tunnels tho..
>>1165644>>1165666>>1165657The Temple's stance is that all men are sons of Adam, but as it is, Urist's people have responded (by engraved stone plates delivered by a handsome automaton in the shape of a buggy pulled by a horse and an ox) that they are children of Aule, not Iluvatar. If there has been any further dialogue, you are not aware of it.>>1165655The Temple has formally forbidden speculation on what happens if The Other Light wins (they still refuse to consider you and Sunday separate factions), to the extent that people calling in to radio and TV shows have been hung up on, and a few kids photocopying pamphlets in believing territories sent to COT for reformation.>>1165649Your interplanetary ferry can take one cryopod to Pluto in approximately a month and a half. The minor planet has been mapped cursorily, and found to have some interesting minerals, but it's quite far out and it's too far from the Sun to allow use of solar panels.>>1165685That is, in fact, a trope. Your current strategy is to take the Big Good and can Him, but only as a temporary measure while you work out a way to eliminate Him at the source. Many suggest taking the part of the prophecy that says that the New Heaven and New Earth will not need the sun because Jesus will be one with the sun, to the absolute letter. Assuming that a containment system is the size of a standard multiperson hab, a double-elliptic transfer trajectory to the Sun would require about four years, or you could sacrifice an interplanetary engine and cut that down to a couple of months.>>1165701(Let me know about cabal allocations and) Don't forget to take into account Sunday's plan, as your agents retrieved it. The more of it he thinks he can accomplish, the less he will deviate.
>>1165685Glorified 'might' get a resurrection. Our current data points can't be verified.
>>1165701>We can take her later, her pushing si much to go is sketchy.She's just feeling underappreciated because she didn't fight the archangel.
>>1165707Do not launch anybody, And use the 2 xtra cabals, to 'aid' him so he does not deviate until we get the best chance to hit him.
>>1165666>>Imagine how bad race relations are in the worldI'll just point out that we've made a lot of progress on that front, progress that even the current US administration can't easily reverse.It's a learning process, and we haven't got a manual to work from yet. It'll take time, blood, and sweat, but we'll get there.>>then imagine how bad it would be if they were actually different species.Same case here, just(as you say) more so. We will have to deal, as a species, with the fact that speciation is inevitable, and that we will have to find better solutions than "murder and enslave the lot."Or else we might as well become Space Nazis. Or Believers.
>>1165707>>That is, in fact, a trope. I was in fact referring to the trope in question.>>Many suggest taking the part of the prophecy that says that the New Heaven and New Earth will not need the sun because Jesus will be one with the sun, to the absolute letter.Can we test TJ's invulnerability with some slightly less overkill first?:ispc-conference.org/ispcproc/ispc20/94.pdfNot sure if links work for PDFs, so: it's a 3600 Kelvin microwave plasma torch.
>>1165750Speaking of plasma torches.Geist, what did you think about my plasma gun idea that uses Dense plasma focus?
>>1165777(I like it, but we have a plasma cutter at work, and it really doesn't like going over about an inch. I am guessing that I will see a lot more sci-fi weapons next time I run this quest...)>>1165750You did try some of this with Angels: they seem to be unaffected by fire or plasma, although they are affected (eventually) by superheated solids or liquids.>>1165714Does this mean you want to postpone the Reach, or just not put any of your Villains on her?
>>1165799...Do not launch the person to PLUTO. The Reach/Villians and server ship are to leave at the end of the year. God damn, i'm about to drop from sleep loss.
>>1165799>I like it, but we have a plasma cutter at work, and it really doesn't like going over about an inch.Probably cause it's meant for labor, actual plasma weapon prototypes have been made and tested.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDERhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Star>Does this mean you want to postpone the Reach, or just not put any of your Villains on her?No it just means we aren't going to launch any believers to space.
Rolled 992 (1d1000)>>1165822It's an interesting concept, and you are certainly welcome to allocate resources to it.(Okay, can I get a cabal allocation? Let's see the Reach launch... if she makes it)
>>1165682Exactly!...You do mean at least allow speciation to happen, right?>>1165683Not going to stop speciation-on an interstellar scale anyway. Or even intrastellar scale if interplanetary travel stays nontrivial. Even slight differences between clones will be amplified over time without a deliberately correcting/averaging factor.It's like any other chaotic system. Given little or no interaction and some time, and two even slightly different starting points will result in massively different end results.Also, are you sure you'd want to live in a world where other people are indistinguishable from you? Because I wouldn't.Giest, should we stop arguing this, or is this fine?
>>1165839# Deal with special situations., Make the Trade agreement with the 2 nations who wanted it.# Use a MISC special. Colonies make forge ship parts as well.# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment. Forge Ship part# SPECIAL Send a drone to the Temple by having TOL or believers build it.# Do a space launch using parts you have built. Launch the part up for the forge ship so they can build it. 2 Cabal# Resume/keep tracking. 2 Cabals, And Damien, TOL Army units in the 2 places they are siezeing and Our own Capital/Egypt.# Infiltrate TOL territory for sabotage by 'pushing' there goals. 3 Cabal# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one. Both digging teams, 6 Cabals, Do 2 Drone/probes/digging into GJ to see what happens under ground as we push in.# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory. 4 Cabal Egypt and West America, Ithuriel and Kat# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) 2 Cabal.Jeb, Andrews, Cyrclon and Zak will be the ones who are embarking on the ark at the end of the year.>>1165839Seems like she launched fucking flawlessly.
>>1165839PRAI-wait, wrong chant.HUMANITY FUCK YEAH! SO THE DICE DECREE!