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Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.html

You have 27 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems and 1 is handling canopy security, so 23 are available. Your civilian research grant is focused on improving offworld colony systems. Your military grant is focused on active cloaking.

You are tracking enemy teams. TOL are now setting up their own transmitters to compete with the government in believing territories. Your new Sky Eye model acts as an analog transmitter as well.

You have 3 aerospace parts in storage, and a ferry up (Name her!)

Variable complexity:

# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.

# Any interesting idea you might want to try.

# Deal with special situations.

# Assign manpower to research. Current military focus: Active stealth. Current civilian focus: Bubble shielding.

Complexity 0

# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.

C 1

# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.

# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).

# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.

# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.

# Work on Hell nodes.

C 2

# Resume tracking.

# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot)

# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.

# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. SPECIAL: Also applies to fortifying Nova Roma.

# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.

# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.

# Build aerospace parts.

# Do a space launch using parts you have built.

* Asteroid mining outposts

* Titan colony

* Large ship construction

C 3

# Build and launch Sky Eyes Mk2s in a territory, granting uninterruptible internet there.

# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.

# Hack into TOL systems.

# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.

# Convert 3 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediately

C 4

# Send crew from the canopy base to an off-world location, and replace the canopy base crew. (1 population dot; 1 cabal lost for Earthside ops)

# Recruit people who wouldn't make the cut as agents into your infantry.

C 5

# Begin building a base somewhere.

# Recruit a new cabal.

C 6

# Focus on your heavy weapons factory and instantly add 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).

>>1126882
># Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot)
2 cabals

># Do a space launch using parts you have built.
2 Cabals. Aerospace parts, Mars colony, finish it. Jeb

># Recruit people who wouldn't make the cut as agents into your infantry.
Cabals 4

># Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.
5 Cabals, Zak. get Christian controlled government to raid the TOL Launchpad.

># Focus on your heavy weapons factory and instantly add 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).
6 cabals. Navy, were going to make a Submarine that can fire Gravity based projectiles into GJ, as well as engage in torpedo warfare. Call in Weaver, Damien.

># Any interesting idea you might want to try.
Capture a regular believer keep him in stasis for an extended period of time. 3 Cabals.

# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot)
Knockout Gas. 1 Cabal, Kat.

>>1126882
>>1126866
Despite the way Rule of Cool can trigger NC, I find it may be more prudent to use what we know gets around divine intervention.

>>1126931

What will you name the interplanetary ferry? You can also have the new batch of colonists name her.

Will the UNS Reach be used to carry the first load of "independent" colonists to Mars, or will the ferry be used?

What stasis technology will you deploy (listed in order of safety)?

# Standard issue medically induced coma.

# Forceful installation of a metabolic extension controller, death, MEC trigger, enable low power mode.

# Cryopreservation.

# Attempt something that has so far purely theoretical, such as time-crystal encasement.

>>1126946
>Attempt something that has so far purely theoretical, such as time-crystal encasement. for 25%

>Standard issue medically induced coma. for 75%

the Ferry will be used.

>>1126946
what were the survival rates and medical risk of each of these?

Imperium Profugus

>>1126946
>and medical risk of each of these
use the cargo ferry. it's return trip will be dropping Christian Martian off on earth.

>>1126965

As per the current space exploration directives, as decided by you, nobody (not even you) has the capability to launch an orbital rocket from Mars. The mothership simply drops off parachute and retrorocket equipped landers while staying in orbit herself. This has been done to prevent leaks and to make sure that colonists are motivated. Building an orbital rocket would require a bit of R&D effort on the Martians' part, especially since Mars does not have a water canopy and so the launch would have to be done entirely according to natural law.

>>1126959

Medical coma: >95%

MEC activation: Technically 0%, but by now MEC tech is as reliable as getting an appendectomy. Earlier experiments show that believers who have been "yanked" from heaven experience severe lack of motivation, and may simply let themselves die, though. >90%

Cryopreservation: <10%

Any untested method: <2%

>>1126965
>>1126958

The ferry's maiden voyage will be to drop off the first group of "free" colonists on Mars; since you have decided to privilege homesteaders, after the shakedown cruise adding further colonists will happen without your direct involvement, up to the launch ramp and the colonists' capacity. However, you will need to establish the initial infrastructure, should you choose to also colonize the asteroids and/or Titan.

The Imperium Profugus' operating mind, Heavy MEC Simaris, announces that he will not legally change his name and gender to that of the ship but may be addressed by either.Simaris underwent the Heavy MEC procedure during the Australia attack a few years ago and, much to the satisfaction of a surprising amount of people, was able to hold on to his outie. He's considered to be a bit of a peeping tom, but given how the Imperium Profugus' systems work, colonists can simply turn telemetry off in their habs. Both Jeb and Cordylon vouch for his ability to operate an interplanetary ship. The Imperium Profugus is definitely a lesser ship than the Reach, capable of roughly a third of the acceleration, but she can still get to Titan in three months if she needs to.

>>1126917

This looks good, confirm?

>>1126990
>Medical coma: >95%
Everyone, were keeping the largest possible numbers of people alive!

Rolled 81 (1d100)

>>1126996

Is the target believer from any particular territory? Young, old? Male, female? Did he or she use to work for you or for TOL before converting, or converted earlier? (Reminder: You do have the medical capability to simulate Hell)

>>1127051
Random, long term believer from south America. no TOL or Omega faction background.

>>1127054
They converted during the journey to mars, thanks to communication with a "friend" we don't know.


We could inquire further but we might piss them off.

Rolled 23 (1d100)

>>1127054

To minimize exposure, your snatch team goes to a territory where you have no significant presence. María Capovilla is originally from Ecuador, and has Italian roots; the man is positively ancient, and has the distinction of having been a teenager when the Rapture came; there are older Natural people on Earth, so she is not exceptional, but not that many. Unlike most millenarians, Maria leads a reasonably active life; she can still walk, slowly, and occasionally puts in the odd hour of work at a neighborhood bakery, the owner-operators of which are justifiably proud of the fact. Believers rarely get sick, but they do, so nobody really bats an eye when your team shows up at Maria's house in an ambulance and carry her away - they didn't even need to knock her out. By the time that it's discovered that the ambulance had been stolen, your team has safely evacuated.

Owing to the patient's extraordinary age, the team takes every precaution to keep the old lady comfortable, to the point that they reconstruct a version of her bedroom and of the bakery's back shop. While mostly senile, Maria is still quite the accomplished panera, and ends up teaching a thing or two to the people who are pretending to be bakery personnel. All the while, blood and tissue samples are taken to generate a personalized regime of chemicals that will knock Maria out long-term without affecting her health to the point where supernatural intervention would occur to keep her alive; as a precaution, your martial artists are put on partial alert.

# Tree Of Life has been informed about this, and is assisting. They ask permission to test a cellular rejuvenation system which they hope to sell to MECs in the next century, if there is one at all.

# Tree Of Life does not know about this operation, it's none of their business.

>>1127084

Due to the recent connectivity loss worldwide, it's fairly possible that this person no longer has email; however, you can easily track them down to at last the town of village of residence (due to the pastoralization directive, most believers are flowing out of the cities about as fast as unbelievers are moving in).

>>1126990
Put the colonists into a coma, we can't risk them dying. It would screw over our public image for space...


So, mars and the moon's population will grow more quickly without our intervention now?

Also who went and founded a colony (there is one of ten for the colony project) out in the asteroids? Some independents?

>>1127096
# Tree Of Life has been informed about this, and is assisting. They ask permission to test a cellular rejuvenation system which they hope to sell to MECs in the next century, if there is one at all.


At the very least, it isn't going to cost us anything and we might get something out of it.

>>1126917

In the meantime, Kat leaves her deli in Pacifica to an assistant and gets to work adapting your light spider tanks into gas-artillery platforms; her experience as a Desolator is invaluable. Thanks to her efforts and that of the base in Pacifica, you end up with a flexible artillery unit that integrates well with your army makeup.

In the meantime, Nova Roma fires up her arsenal, and before the year ends you end up with a small flotilla of nuclear-powered submersibles (they can submerge, but not go very deep, although they each carry a batisphere) with artillery capabilities; they can also be used to launch Sky Eye stacks and small canopy breachers, in addition to carrying a single electromagnetic naval gun each. Damien finds that Weaver's style of command, while very effective with a human crew, does not mesh well with the "be the ship" concept, and the two end up in what amounts to a not-so-friendly rivalry during sea trials; Weaver's superior experience wins out.

# Try to formally hire Weaver again.

# Give her one of the submersibles and a letter of marque.

# Thank Weaver for her help, pay her handsomely, but leave it at that.


>>1127105

The coma is not for the colonists, it's for the kidnapped believer; colonists are being taken to Mars using a brachistocrone trajectory, and can handle being awake during the trip, since it's only a couple of weeks long.

You have authorized a preliminary launch to start setting up infrastructure on Cybele last year; your space engineers even found Valentina's capsule, although they have left it unopened as per her wishes.

The extraplanetary colony population will indeed grow without your intervention, as long as a launch ramp is available and not maxed out in capacity. The infrastructure will still need your help, though.

>>1127117

The effort to gently put Maria under is successful; she is currently being held in Misrayim. Tree Of Life once more dispatch their best surgeon, Fran, to administer the cellular rejuvenation treatment; it will take a long time to see the results. However, your agents are pleased to note that there has been no supernatural repercussion against taking Maria away. In South America, her friends look for her, however, and you

# let them look.

# have Maria record a message telling them that she is playing missionary in Misrayim, before putting her under.

# have Maria record something different.

>>1127144
> Give her one of the submersibles and a letter of marque.

>have Maria record a message telling them that she is playing missionary in Misrayim, before putting her under.

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>>1126917

Zak lacks the social skills necessary to coordinate a social-engineering attack; instead, he concentrates on what he knows, which is sonics. Mini tank bots carry wubbers in every nook and cranny of the TOL launch pad, and soon every worker there has overheard about a possible raid coming; work grinds to a halt, and the normally paranoid TOLers end up fortifying the launch ramp against pretty much everything but an act of God. From there, it's a simple matter for your men to dress up in TOL uniforms, pretend to be wide-range patrols coming from the launch complex, and be loud enough at it that the Russian territorial government finally sends investigators. A letter-writing campaign meant to incite zeal does the rest, and the launch complex is surrounded by a fence and effectively subject to a siege; your agents pose as believing workers to make sure that the fence is put up quickly and well. Despite efforts, the raid never happens; instead, the TOL launch ramp is essentially put under siege. A few months through it, The Other Light's space program is effectively halted by the threat of starvation, both in the logistical sense and in the metabolic sense. A humiliated column of thin, emaciated TOL workers is escorted out, and the site put under sequestration. This method has the side effect of allowing missionaries to pounce on the TOL workers, managing to convert a large number of them, including some of the engineers and mathematicians - however, Zak is quite pleased at having solved the matter nonviolently.

>>1127161

Maria's message is duly delivered, along with some pictures showing her working at a similar bakery, and other than a couple of letters indicating a willingness to help that settles the matter, at least for now; a local newspaper in South America publishes a brief story about the old woman's courage, and invites people to pray for her safety. Since her safety is assured, this does not seem to have a measurable effect.

>>1127161

Capt. Weaver violently kisses the dockworker who delivers the letter of marque to her, and selects the least automated sub, which she promptly names Surcouf; she picks up a skeleton crew and sails through Gilbraltar, presumably with the intent of rejoining with her other sailors. She leaves you a note indicating that she misses raiding grain boats in the Atlantic, and that if you want to cause believers to resume trade, you'll have to do the brainwork yourself.

Halfay through the year, Monday sends you a message indicating that he is pleased with your martial preparations and hopes that the truce hold. According to their calculations, the total strength of the Last Army is, including your forces, ahead of schedule.

"Maybe we can join together for the final push and leave all this silly space stuff alone, yes?"

Your tracking teams indicate that TOL has slacked of a little about their army, and are focusing on preparations for a traditional-media propaganda instead; they've been buying printing equipment and transmitter components. More resources for you, of course.

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Tree Of Life is left holding the bag a bit in Pacifica, and the territorial government is able to regain some ground; notably, they finally manage to close Kat's diner and, pending a health department investigation, ban vat-grown meat. Unsurprisingly, this causes a Prohibition situation; the skeleton crew you've left handling politics in the territory cooperates with locals to make the good old fashioned hamburger a symbol of both Pacifica's biotech leadership and of its nationalism.

# End year.

# Wait.

I'm back.

>Listen, do me a favor: you seem to be very opinionated and passionate about these things, and from your answers, it's also clear to me that you understand more about R&D than I do. So why don't you do a writeup yourself on how Omega's researchers figure all this stuff out in just one year, while being plagued by just that little bit of continual bad luck that is endemic to those who oppose Yahweh in the Left Behind books?
Alright give me a minute to write this.

(REMINDER: If you want to build a relativistic kinetic strike vehicle, the later you launch it, the less fast it will go when it hits)

>>1127339

(Thanks!)

>>1127357

While the Greenland base chugs away, a few of your researchers roost in it for a few weeks in order to take advantage of the arctic climate to test infrared reduction technologies, at first designs incorporated glass materials but it was quickly realized any design would be too bulky for practical use, researchers soon redirected their efforts on improving thermal blankets instead, their first struggle was trying to prevent the thermal blanket from cooking anything inside it after a few minutes but their alterations failed to produce satisfying results, some researchers however began working on radiant barrier materials instead and discovered that if you create a "sandwich" of a thermal barrier material, a polyester batting about an inch thick for air space and another thermal barrier you would have a design capable of blocking over 90% of a person's thermal signature, it was however discovered that any heavy material put on top of the "sandwich" would soon cause the radiant barrier material to quickly heat up, this meant that only extremely light material such as ripstop nylon materials and sniper veil netting could be used as camouflage.
this successful design was soon approved by Omega.

Is this good?

>>1126946
>time-crystal encasement.
Holy shit your actually using that, this is the best quest.

>>1127144
>Kat leaves her deli in Pacifica to an assistant and gets to work adapting your light spider tanks into gas-artillery platforms.
NOT THE SPIDER TANKS!
I'll go design an artillery tank so we don't have to modify my babies.

>>1127483

(Sure, thanks!)

>>1127494

(Other than NC and nuclear stuff, I've tried to keep this grounded in what we know. If you read the archives, you may notice that I've made a couple of "predictions" about sound tech that have since been realized.)

LEGION OF LIGHT "READY AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE", TOL LEADERSHIP CLAIMS

A puzzling announcement from The Only Light army command today announced that due to efforts by "the army itself, The Other Light, and the whole of the people", what has been called The Last Army is ready to invade Greater Jerusalem at a moment's notice. While the Temple offered no rebuttal, none is necessary: as even unbelievers ought to know, it is prophecied in Revelation that the Last Battle will happen at the end of the Millennium, and not a moment before. Nevertheless, this pronouncement was followed by a vow by The Other Light to "aggressively recruit" within the burgeoning population of unbelievers. Despite this being in accordance with the prophecies as well, theologian Tsion Ben-Judah has exhorted the good people of God's earth to redouble their effort at winning souls in these final days.

As much as this publication feels a need to reassure all of us that we will be moving into our mansions in Heaven soon either way, let's remember that the Temple has never made a formal pronouncement as to when the Millennium might end; most exegetists agree on the year +1000, but two popular theories that have not been rebuked are the "off by one" theory suggesting that the Last Battle and the White Throne Judgement will occur in +999, and the "Count from the Rapture" theory that indicates +993 as the most likely date.

In most of the world, of course, worry about this supposedly invincible army remains low. “We don’t have one trained soldier,” famed pilot Rayford Steele was quoted at saying, correctly, “And we don’t need one. Not a hair on the head of a believer will be harmed by the biggest fighting force the world has ever seen.”

We remind our readers that, so far, all this army has done was fight against itself and lose every time; the last incident was a few years ago in Australia, when what appeared to be a skirmish between two opposing TOL factions resulted in the release of a few Christian captives shortly after an Angel supposedly appeared above the installation under attack.

[Accepted for publication]
# End year

# Wait, more info.

Hey geist what did you think of my hound design design meant to replace our golf cart drones?

>>1127568

It makes sense in urban combat and in hilly/mountainous terrain, and in areas that have been hit by artillery, but less so in the open field due to lower maximum speed.

>>1127579
Really? i expect since it's designed after animals like dogs, panthers and cheetahs it could go at least 40-60 mph which is still pretty fast, but i understand if it's because wheels are better for flat terrain.

>>1127596

(How fast can a modern offroad racing car go?)

>>1127603
Google ain't telling me the speed of such vehicles so i don't know.

>>1127603
Can we get the TOL to use Gas weapons?

>>1127557
Oh yea i forgot.
>End year

>>1127635
(Easily 100mph. I've been on one at 90mph because my defensive-driving instructor used to race. I almost soiled myself)

>>1127636
You can definitely offer.

>>1127641

This year's Feast of Tabernacles has, for its highlights, a plea to "rescue" Isaac from the Planet of War, quickly rebuked by the priests as a wonderful witnessing opportunity instead; many territorial government representatives are worried about a silent majority of young unbelievers who may have TOL sympathies.

Of course they are all younger than one hundred and thus relegated to the status of children—rebellious, articulate, passionate, defiant, furious children.

The new directive from the Temple states that the pastoralization effort has mostly succeeded. showing a map indicating that most unbelievers are now concentrated in the cities, and efforts should be made to consider them the final mission field of the last dispensation.

quick question geist, now that i have written >>1127483
Do we have the thermal reduction suit or do we have to spend another turn to research it?

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Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.html

You have 27 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems and 1 is handling canopy security, so 23 are available. Your civilian research grant is focused on improving offworld colonies. Your military grant is focused on active cloaking.

You are not tracking enemy teams. TOL have set up their own transmitters to compete with the government in believing territories. Your new Sky Eye model acts as an analog transmitter as well.

You have 3 aerospace parts in storage.

Variable complexity:

# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.

# Any interesting idea you might want to try.

# Deal with special situations.

# Assign manpower to research. Current military focus: Active stealth. Current civilian focus: Bubble shielding.

Complexity 0

# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.

C 1

# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.

# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).

# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.

# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.

# Work on Hell nodes.

C 2

# Resume tracking.

# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot)

# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.

# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. SPECIAL: Also applies to fortifying Nova Roma.

# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.

# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.

# Build aerospace parts.

# Do a space launch using parts you have built.

* Asteroid mining outposts

* Titan colony

* Large ship construction

C 3

# Build and launch Sky Eyes Mk2s in a territory, granting uninterruptible internet there.

# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.

# Hack into TOL systems.

# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.

# Convert 3 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediately

C 4

# Send crew from the canopy base to an off-world location, and replace the canopy base crew. (1 population dot; 1 cabal lost for Earthside ops)

# Recruit people who wouldn't make the cut as agents into your infantry.

C 5

# Begin building a base somewhere.

# Recruit a new cabal.

C 6

# Focus on your heavy weapons factory and instantly add 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).

>>1127658
you do.

>>1127664
Do we have the space ship parts for the Reach to finally leave the system build?

>>1127655
>Easily 100mph
Well damn, a cheetah can only go 68-75mph, does the golf cart drone go 100mph or is it's speed limited by it's size?

>>1127664
>you do.
uh...Which part of my question are you answering? a yea or nay for having thermal reduction suits?

>>1127668

Not yet, you have 3 parts ready, and you need 10. The interplanetary probe will perform its flyby in +986, and its information will reach you in +990; this will allow for building parts that are better adapted to the Centauri system. If you decide to launch early, you may, but some of the gear your colonists bring with them will end up being essentially dead weight.

>>1127676

Your drone tanks have been perfected over the years; they can hit that speed if configured with the right tires.

>>1127684

Yes, thermal reduction suits are avialable.

>>1127664
>Hack into TOL systems.
3 cabals, find out where they are keeping the hostages.
does sending an infiltration team with thermal cloaks to the TOL base help this?

>>1127690
>Your drone tanks have been perfected over the years; they can hit that speed if configured with the right tires.
well damn, guess my hound drone design is unnecessary and obsolete unless your willing to boost their speed.

since we have a need for artillery i'm reposting this design.

Super heavy artillery platform.
>Based on the NASA Crawler transport and the supreme commander fatboy.
>bigger than the tsar tank.
>The tank has one huge semi flat rectangular body.
>On each corner of the body on the bottom are big caterpillar tracks, on the corner tops of the body are batleship turrets, on the front, sides and corners of the body are autocannon turrets.
>On the middle top of the body is a turret with an artillary cannon similar to the Karl-Gerät mortar, surrounding the turret is a ring of missile silos.
Another walking fortress, designed to rain many shells from far away in a single volley, it's top speed is probably 15 MPH due to being able to have bigger engines.

>>1127709

Quadrupedal drones would be advantageous in rough terrain - there's little of it in this world, unless you are willing to make some. They do have an advantage in urban fighting, however, in that they can go up stairs easily and call elevators.

>>1127717

This would be an excellent platform for long range over-the-horizon artillery; it can even use the electromagnetic naval gun that is on your submarines.

(Also, I sort of regret not having a laser tech tree; you wouldn't believe what I just finished building.)

>>1127729
>Also, I sort of regret not having a laser tech tree; you wouldn't believe what I just finished building.
Oh boy what is it?

>>1127729
Actually do you think you can make the hound drone's top speed as fast as an off road motorcycle?
http://www.cheatsheet.com/automobiles/the-5-fastest-dirt-bikes-in-the-world.html/?a=viewall

>>1127729
lol

>>1127749

Despite the greater complexity of a legged design, it would prove for an interesting challenge to your designers.

For now, what's the plan for the year?

>>1127753

(Okay, fine, video uploading)

>>1127781
How many sky eyes Mk2 do we need for full earth coverage?

>>1127797

You currently have SE2 coverage over Misrayim, Pacifica, Australia, and on the automated base in Greenland. To cover other territories you will need to build 14 sets. Monitoring Greater Jerusalem or Antarctica is likely to require continuous replacements.

>>1127733
>>1127753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpITe0ySF5w

>>1127811
Damn, that is nice.

>>1127811
>>1127664
>Build and launch Sky Eyes Mk2s in a territory, granting uninterruptible internet there.
15 cabals.
>Hack into TOL systems.
3 cabals, find out where they are keeping the hostages.
does sending an infiltration team with thermal cloaks to the TOL base help this?
>Assign manpower to research. Current military focus: Active stealth. Current civilian focus: Bubble shielding.
Design the super heavy artillery platform, 2 cabals.
>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. SPECIAL: Also applies to fortifying Nova Roma.
Pacifica, 3 cabals.
Did we build a second base in rome?

>>1127830

Due to influx from revivalists, Nova Roma has effectively replaced Night City as your enclave in a believing territory.

>>1127830

Where do you want the Sky Eyes?

>>1127828

Thanks! Getting there :) I'll make a nicer video at some point in the weekend. Do help >>1127830 with planning!

>>1127830
it would possibly be better to send them in "as recruits."

and I don't think we should focus on Bases, rather out top priority should be preparing a force large enough to fight the angels and protect the containment. at this point our main concern is military manpower rather than firepower.

>>1127830
>Build and launch Sky Eyes Mk2s in a territory, granting uninterruptible internet there.
Adjust to twelve Cabals

>Recruit people who wouldn't make the cut as agents into your infantry.
put the three here and send Ithuriel.

>>1127811
That's a nice laser, reminds me of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLwqWBtmUEc
>>1127844
>Where do you want the Sky Eyes?
North and south east Asia, east Europe, middle Africa and east america.
>>1127852
>and I don't think we should focus on Bases, rather out top priority should be preparing a force large enough to fight the angels and protect the containment. at this point our main concern is military manpower rather than firepower.
I slightly disagree, Sunday went mad and declared anyone who leaves earth to be a traitor, he is likely to continue attempts to sabotage our space assets and it's better if we get rid of TOL now by showing that they have kidnapped families as excuse for war and as a demoralization attack, and since we're going to war soon building more army units is obvious.
>>1127865
recruiting people take 4 cabals, better to wait until next turn to do that.

>>1127877
undermanning and putting a hero instead of the four means a possibility of failure but I have a good feeling about this one.

and I mean we should not focus on base building. infiltrating TOL and taking Antarctica is still on the to do list.

>>1127877
>>1127830

Which do you prefer? And, would you rather slightly underman the MK2 launches and try to go for five territories, or guarantee four, if you assign 12 cabals to it?

>>1127906
>and I mean we should not focus on base building. infiltrating TOL and taking Antarctica is still on the to do list.
Oh, that's good.
>undermanning and putting a hero instead of the four means a possibility of failure but I have a good feeling about this one.
I don't want to risk the roll.

>>1127908
If we're under manning it's better to go for just 4 so remove east America.

By the way here is a cool video about bionics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDsNZJTWw0w

>>1127917
>>1127906

(Y'all tell me, or let's wait for >>1127668 to break the tie?)

>>1127977
I'll concede to move things along, 12 cabals on sky eye Mk2 and 3+ithuriel on Recruiting.

>>1127984

Okay. Thanks!!! Try to deploy in five territories, or stick to four?

>>1127992
stick to four.

>>1127992
go with four, remove south-south america.

>>1127908
LETS GO FOR ALL 12!

>>1127977
Watching the NA lol games.

>>1128004
It wasn't south America. >>1127877

>>1128011
ok with dropping north east asia?

>>1128056
Actually yes, north east Asia doesn't have any TOL bases or transmitters.

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>>1127830
>>1127923
> North and south east Asia, east Europe, middle Africa

Launching the Sky Eyes is a fairly routine job; the African operation is performed from one of your new submersibles, in order to test its rocket-launching capabilities - the canopy boat is shot at an angle and ordered to use its older Mk1 sistren as GPS in order to swim to the final coordinates.

The cabals on the ground make sure that WWAN dongles and older-model computers and handhelds are easily available to the youth of these nations by distributing them at cost, doing the occasional giveaway, letting them be found in abandoned vehicles, and the like. People who build their own are, when found, encouraged to take a trip to one of your cities and look for technical work there.

Spread-spectrum technology makes your digital transceivers effectively unjammable unless either the local government or TOL are willing to kill off their own signal; while the restrictions against unlicensed broadcasting remain in place, they effectively become unenforceable. Believing governments are unwilling to just v& young hardware hackers for nonviolent crimes, although there is a spike of "reeducation schools" (at least they didn't call them camps) started in rural areas.

Your sysadmins assemble an infiltration team to be

# sent into a TOL base in a territory.

# airdropped directly into Antarctica, using the thermal cloaks to get as close as possible to the main base.

Their job is to

# live the TOL life for a full year and report back as much data as possible. To counteract the effect of addictive drugs, their metabolic extension controllers have been put in preemptive maintenance mode, and they have been issued with secondary livers delivered from the Dwarf DNA samples you obtained a few years ago.

# install a data tap, including transceivers to be able to tap into the manually switched phone network, and skedaddle. To this end, they have been provided with your latest miniaturized transceiver systems; a modified Sky Eye Mk2 will do stationkeeping in the southern ocean and act as a relay.

Designing a superheavy artillery platform that is compatible with your existing electromagnetic gun tech is relatively easy; you won't be able to build many of these, but each will be able to vomit a veritable torrent of anything you feel like up to two horizons away. Assuming it doesn't sink into the sand!

The efforts to retake Pacifica, peacefully so far, resume in earnest; your cabals assist in building a few habitats for aquatic humans up and down the coast, reestablish a cashless economy for those who still prefer one, and collaborate with Tree Of Life. The snag is that this time, the medical experimenters want a bigger say in the future government - they trust that your interests align when it comes to civil rights, but their head of security, Jeff Tolwyn, want reassurance that any bioweapon program they may or may not have been working on will not be impacted by your administration.

#?

>>1128074
>airdropped directly into Antarctica, using the thermal cloaks to get as close as possible to the main base.

>Install a data tap but then live the TOL life for a full year. Each member unable to see each others face and stuff to keep a traitor from breaking it all apart.

>>1128068
>>1128056
>>1128074 (You)

(Okay, change that to "SE Asia, E Europe, C Africa, S America", I was still typing)


# What will your Villains do?

>>1128074
># sent into a TOL base in a territory.

># live the TOL life for a full year and report back as much data as possible. To counteract the effect of addictive drugs, their metabolic extension controllers have been put in preemptive maintenance mode, and they have been issued with secondary livers delivered from the Dwarf DNA samples you obtained a few years ago.

actual infiltration can't be airdropped.

>>1128109
This.
>actual infiltration can't be airdropped.
It can.

>>1128096
have Ithuriel on recruiting, Zak on hacking, Damien on monitoring the infiltration. (Fuck if only we had Quinn.) Jeb on launches.

Kat can oversee designing artillery.

>>1128109

Not directly, but they can "show up" on the Antarctic shore and quietly join the new recruits waiting for induction at base. Having a dormant metabolic extension controller may have given them away 20 years ago, but these days a lot of people have one, even people who would only turn 100 after +1000. It's good lightning (or drug overdose) insurance.

>>1128114
not long term infiltration, eventually a background will be checked.

>>1128122
I still think it's the riskier option.

>>1128128
>not long term infiltration, eventually a background will be checked.
Well of course you can;t do long term infiltration, but you were saying that you can't airdrop an infiltration team.

>>1128135
the options were a wire tap and a full year undercover, the year undercover that we both chose is a long term infiltration.

>>1128074
Is our electromagnetic gun tech the Coil-railgun combo weapon or is it just one of the 2?

Rolled 66 (1d100)

>>1128119

Kat has a little bit too much fun working on the artillery project; ordinarily, she prefers a humanoid frame (although she tried one of the quadrupedal drones, modified into a sort of centaur; the result was a nice photo-op and an epic faceplant when the media people left) but she makes an exception while testing the prototype platform. She's a bit annoyed at the loss of her deli.

Jeb has little to contribute to the launches; to someone who's been around Mars a couple of time, they're mundane, if anything. However, he is conscious of the fact that anyone messing around with rocketry considers him a role model, and does the job very graciously. During the operation, he lets it slip that he will reach 100 soon (he has classified his age). Rumor has it that he's been spending more time than usual being intimate with Cordylon, but nobody would begrudge him that. The submersible launch has to happen from a towed barge, rather than from the artillery system, but is otherwise a success.

Ithuriel is happy to assist with recruiting; your cabals have him play Sgt. Hartman on this one, a role which he enjoys perhaps a little too much.

Zak and Damien borrow one of the other submersibles to deliver your infiltration team; the former takes the time to do a number of sonar tests.

>>1128147

The EM gun is a two-stage system; the initial impulse is given by a magnetic field while the final acceleration is through a railgun. This saves considerable power, at the price of requiring more complicated shells. A smaller system, using pneumatics for the first stage since a compressor is already available in the design, is being studied for your small drone tanks, heavy MEC frames, and spider tanks.

>>1128179
When will Jeb become 99 years old?

>>1128179

Ithuriel's performance as a drill sargeant is enhanced by the fact that, while he would still lose a one-on-one fight with an Angel of Yahweh, he has much better endurance than most full humans... keyword being most, as a few of the recruits manage to outperform him in one or two trials during boot camp. Needless to say, being able to beat an Angel is a huge morale booster, and your newest crop of infantry is ready for action and well disciplined. Your army is at full capacity now; it will become necessary to assign a liaison team to them

# permanently.

# as you can afford, year by year.

# picked from their own ranks so as to not take up your agents' valuable time.

Your army will see itself as

# the elite portion of the Last Army, with insignia reminiscent of TOL's.

# Nova Roma and Misrayim's military, with appropriate imperial iconography.

# Some sort of planetary defence force, with UN-inspired regalia.

# Other.

>>1128195

Jeb has chosen to classify that information.

# Ask.

# Find out by having a sysadmin do a memory peek.

# Leave alone for now.

>>1128179
ask him what his endgame is.

# Some sort of planetary defence force, with UN-inspired regalia.
the imperium!

>>1128200
>Some sort of planetary defence force, with UN-inspired regalia.
>Nova Roma and Misrayim's military, with appropriate imperial iconography.
Both.
We're space Rome.

Actually now that i think about it, you know war our army infantry needs?
Power armor.

>>1128206

"I thought about it a lot. Omega, I understand that a ship like the Reach is best piloted by a heavy MEC, but that's just not for me. I'd miss the wind on my face, the adrenaline rush of a night landing, my time with Val and Cordy. She tells me that some MECs regain the ability to orgasm, but, well, not many, and Cordy's not one of them. So as to what my endgame is... I don't know. I understand that Val is probably in Hell. I get that it's what she wanted, I mean, she led the Cosmists to us, she's probably the first of them that gets a proper space burial in nine hundred years... just..."

The test pilot turned astronaut and space program manager looks older beyond his years for the moment of a long sigh. "I don't know."

>>1128221
". . . want to try and find the others?"

the last hell experiment, as Jebs last act, an attempt to reach into and interact with hell.

((can his replacement be someone more infiltration minded?))

>>1128221
Will Jeb accept an MEC?

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>>1128206
>>1128216

To differentiate your army from the WW1 and WW2 inspired fatigue that TOL has favored, you elect on an Imperial theme that borrows traits from ancient history. Since most of your drones and infantry can cooperate well for tank-desant tactics, long marches are unlikely (and are guaranteed to happen on flat terrain), so the standard infantry kit can afford to be somewhat heavy, including a polymer shield resistant to small arms. The infantry's job is to screen your specialist units: Desolators, martial artists, and so on.

# Sounds good.

# No, change this.

>>1128289

He is "wearing" one, he's just not looking forward to it tripping, at all.

>>1128288

"Heh. Ever the utilitarian, Omega. Guess my motivation score is high enough that there's no point in wasting energy trying to cheer me up, eh? Keep it that way, I've had a wonderful life so far and don't need synthetic sympathy. But no, I don't want to go to Hell any more than anyone sane wants to. But if I had half a chance to get Val out, you bet your shiny metal ass I would."

>>1128288
Oh that's a good idea, a really good idea.
Reposting my ideas since we might do this.

>Make a drill and cover it with runes, hang it above the hellmouth then open the mouth and dig to hell.
>Stab an angel in the heart/chest with a sacrificial knife then trow the body down the hellmouth.
>purposely let MEC's go crazy from hellpain then wire them to the hellmouth.
Anti chooses which plans he wants to work with.

>>1128305
>Sounds good.
Here is some music for our space legionaries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBbWb90pUgo

>>1128305
>Sounds good.

>>1128305
love it.

"we'll get them out, someday. all of them, I swear by it."

>>1128319
great music. soundtrack approved.

my actual plan was connect a MEC to the hell nodes, then when they are about to trip while in the middle of the hellmouth, let them die, trip the mec, only the pain removing part, life support minimal, and then try and have them communicate back what they see.

doesn't have to be Jeb, just someone borderline suicidal and psychotic.

>>1128305
># Sounds good.
all infantry, martial artist and these guys, will have a Add to dwarven weapon right?

>>1128338
Good plan.

Wait! everyone why aren't we asking the dwarves for armor and shields

>>1128319
Forgot a plan.
>add more nodes to the hellnodes until it's as sentient as a dog/monkey, then connect them to the hellmouth and tell it to bark.

Wait, did we tell the automatic base to do something this turn?

>>1128384
have them churn out arms and armor.

>>1128387
And MEC drones.

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>>1128220

That's another long-range project....

>>1128288
>>1128319
>>1128338

Jeb is just the person who would literally go to Hell if that's what it took, but his current understanding is that Hell is some sort of insanity-inducing psychic loop: he's not sure about Hell being a physical place, from what he's heard.

"I have a few years. But I will think about it."

>>1128344
>>1128370


Dwarves have excellent armor, but it's nothing you can't make yourself; the blades are a different story - while your metallurgists were able to replicate them, it was only at immense cost and time, using ionic deposition. How Urist's people are making them on an assembly line is beyond them. Some suspect that they aren't made on an assembly line at all, they're just all handmade and the tolerances are that good.

Your deal with Urist includes gladii or throwing axes for some of your elite troops, yes. Martial artists have been given a more form-fitting uniform that can be shed quickly (it's not much good against Angels) and, even if not shed, allows for almost complete freedom of movement.

One of your sysadmins asks about the cross emblem. The designer dryly notes that it's a reminder. "Not to the warrior. To the Opponent. Yahwists have knelt before the symbol of their own defeat for three thousand years!"

>>1128305
"I wish that it was possible too, but from every perverted experiment and idea I have tried nothing has came close to working.


Now, as to keeping you alive for a little while longer, you are aware of the relation between distance from earth and the time of god-initiated death? Effectively we need to find out when humans die as they go away from earth.

Val gave us the first data point, I ask that you give us the second and after you only one more will be needed. Then we will know where is safe.


Alternatively we could place you into cryological storage and launch you on the cargoship along side the Reach for it's final journey. I don't know if that would make you live but it is worth a shot...

Or you could go and live out in the asteroid belt and at the very least metaphorically and somewhat literally be with Val one more time before death."

>>1128387
Seriously let's pay them handsomely to outfit our army. Call up Urist

>>1128370
maybe we are, in fact can we ask them? we make better tech stuff.

>>1128394
nah, he has a mec implant, here's hoping he uses it.

"well. Jeb, whatever you decide to do, one day, we're getting them out of hell, we're restoring the sense of touch, and were going to undo all the damage Tyrant did, even if it take ten thousand year of exile in the stars."

>>1128394

"I can do that." You can tell that Jeb relishes going as far out as possible while still alive, even if it means dealing with the aftermath of death by himself. "Sign me up. The asteroids? Titan?"

He asks for a year, an engineering team, and a logistics team to prepare, and reveals that he will turn 100 in 1990. He was younger than you thought - barely a child when he started flying.

(End year? I gotta get some food in me. The laser stuff was more tiring than the final product looks)

>>1128393
OK I say we make a deal with Urist where they craft us a multi use Melee tool. Similar to trench Weaponry for our baseline infantry.

>>1128421
War Shovels eh? start rounding up the spetznaz?

>>1128429
>>1128421

(Wurp, I forgot the infiltration writeup! orz )

Urist is thoroughly amused at your request, and readily agrees to it. "Teach your guys how to swing a pick, maybe, too!"

Rolled 44, 49, 25 = 118 (3d100)

The infiltration project is ambitious: Zak and Damien release two intel team from the submarine, one to install a comm relay, and the other to pretend to be TOL screened recruits and live in the big base for a year. Forging the paperwork is trivial; making it look like your guys don't stand out by not having been on amphetamines for a while is a little more difficult, and requires the help of some permanent makeup. Since there is no night, the electric inflatable boat arrives under cover of fog, and your infiltrators use their active camouflage systems as close as they dare; Damien has the submarine fire a few shots at nothing and launch one of the old Mk1 Sky Eyes at the canopy, just to give the TOL coastal patrol something else to look at.

>>1128512
We also forgot to assign the automatic base in Greenland to do something.
>>1128384
>>1128387
>>1128392

>>1128512
"haha, good one Urist. but really, the real issue is locking the damn mountain after we lock down Tango Divinity."

((don't forget, TOL attacking is a possibility, If we succeed we need to lock it down tighter than Alcatraz.))

>>1128551

The submersible does not, alas, make a clean getaway: one of the coastal patrol boats bumps into it, and to avoid a shooting incident, Zak explains that she is conducting sea trials under Damien's captaincy. The ship's logs and the copious notes about sonar performance agree, and Damien is able to explain the relative lack of crew on the submersible by showing the TOL coasties how a Heavy MEC can "become" a large vehicle such as a ship. The submersible eventually manages to get back to base, with some embarassment, but not before having to allow TOL coasties to conduct a thorough inspection and take plenty of pictures. Two days later, the hacking team lights up their beacon and reports that the infiltrators are inside the main TOL base; the hackers have wired up part of TOL's telephone network to a relay buoy. "We should be able to listen in on something interesting based on voice recognition" the hacker leader reports "but the transmitter is noisy; they'll likely find it after one or two uses. The infiltrators have been ordered to file reports using text only, the hope is that burst transmissions will just show up as static glitches."

# Review the infiltrator reports over the year in detail.

# Just the executive summary, no distractions.

The infiltrators

# may

# may not

use the relay to call for an early evac.

>>1128610

(Admittedly this is where having Quinn would have allowed a lot more latitude. Alas. Ithuriel is more charismatic and a better fighter, but wouldn't exactly be able to pass for TOL, while Quinn would've just needed a new face)

>>1128610
># Review the infiltrator reports over the year in detail.

># may not

Arrange a different exit strategy.

>>1128610
>Review the infiltrator reports over the year in detail.

>may not, different way out.

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>>1128753

* We've made it inside the base! The amount of military hardware stockpiled here is staggering. Tanks and jeeps and rigs of every size. We have seen a few Katyusha rocket launchers, so they do have modern artillery.

* This place is cavernous, much bigger than Night City. They have been here for centuries. They dug down far enough that everything runs on geothermal power. They grow food here, but not enough. Small cargo ships from all over.

* Most secondary systems are slowly failing. If a phone exchange craps out they just pluck some runts from the caves, give them a hat, and make them play messenger. Class system using color code clearance levels. Our access is limited.

* Local leaders have a lot of power. Commissars for work brigade, too. Brutal.

* Monday seems to be running the show. Military-first slogans everywhere. Seen little of the other Seven. Seen nothing of Sunday.

* Massive meth labs. Dirty but efficient. Outlying bases must procure food and raw materials in return for drugs.

* TOL grunts/peons told that Satan will reverse the judgement, not halt it. World still ends, Yahweh in Hell, TOLers in Heaven-On-Earth. Description matches Revelations, just roles reversed.

* Spike fell into a smelting vat. Our work brigade is expected to work undermanned and keep quota. Some of the mines under the ice are still active - metals, sulfur, perchlorates.

* Sunday only comunicates thru video messages. A few clips got played out twice during an interview. People here too tired or amped up to notice. NC possible? We suspect a coup by Monday.

* Commissar shot Bob. Immediately beat commissar to death in front of work brigade. Got offered his job. Took it.

* TOL elite lives better. Amphetamine, heroin use rampant. Was pressured to partake. If generator craps out in executive area they yank one out from the slums and install a slave hamster wheel there. All skilled personnel works on war vehicles or ships.

* Few warships. Lots of transport vessels. Got reprimanded for going easy on work brigade.

* TOL ruling class do not have Mk10 MECs. Zombify like everyone else.

* TOL ruling class believes same as TOL peons re: after victory.

* Big speech by Monday. Intends to coopt Legion of Light and attack early (993?). No video - toured slums and barracks to make it. Still no sign of Sunday other than on video snippets.

* Massive zombie pens. Kept in the ice, low metabolism, otherwise mostly left to rot, fed expired food.

* Saw cryo chambers. Many broken, some working. Some competent personnel supervising.

* Streamlined work brigade production somewhat to avoid executions. No reprimand or praise.

* Gianna's cover compromised. Shot her myself to keep cover. She didn't cry.

* Thursday found dead at desk. Overwork/dose. State funeral, peons allowed to party, double rations. No replacement installed.

* Loyalty purge coming. Will probably be compromised. Only one left in team. Will try to escape.

"That was the last transmission."

>>1128843
>Monday seized controlled.

What did Monday do?

>>1128872

"Sunday" is The Other Light's regent, until Satan arrives, at least in theory; he's in charge of the entire operation. "Monday" is the general of their army.

>>1128843
"A shame to lose such loyal members of our force. Still though they knew the risks."


>>1128872
Well, I if I was a dictator-in-the-making I would probably kill my associate.

However the existence of massive cryo-vaults and the general nature of Tol makes me think that he might have him secured away.

>>1128843
>Saw cryo chambers. Many broken, some working. Some competent personnel supervising.
Did they transmit the location of the cryochambers, and if the cryochambers had the moon officers family members?

>>1128892

The personnel that supported the infiltrators mostly take the early retirement that you offer; widows and widowers will receive a generous pension.

# Keep the report to your core personnel.

# Generate an "independent documentary reconstruction" using moviemaking techniques, and allow it to spread unofficially.

# Fuck it, expose TOL's modus operandi to the whole world, even if it risks a war.

>>1128917

Yes, you have coordinates for the cryochambers, all the transmissions were location-coded (indicating that the Antarctic base is indeed huge, incidentally); you don't know who's in there or not though, the visit was short.

>>1128940
# Keep the report to your core personnel.


Let's not prevoke this, it will end worse than the Balkans...

>>1128940
>Generate an "independent documentary reconstruction" using moviemaking techniques, and allow it to spread unofficially.

>>1128940
>Fuck it, expose TOL's modus operandi to the whole world, even if it risks a war.
This is my goal, use what we found out to declare war on TOL.
And since we're going to war i should post our strategy.
We should focus on bleeding the TOL army be using our superior tech and guerrilla hit and run strategies to cause more casualties on their side than ours, our battles should be primarily fought with MEC drones and vehicles to prevent casualties.
Dealing with Zombie MEC's is easy, just have some sniper teams with thermal cloaks snipe the controllers to cause the Zombie hoards to become disorganized, we can even lure such hordes to TOL soldiers.
Sabotage teams will be sent to TOL bases to do these
>Sabotage communications, they must also track messenger paths so we can intercept them.
>Sabotage weapons production.
>install doubt on the peons.
>Locate more incriminating information.

>>1129016
I must disagree.


From all we have seen, TOL will be disintegrated. Us fighting them costs us valuable time and resources.


So essentially unless we want or need some of their assets, we gain more by not fighting them. As they act as a distraction for the christians from our efforts.

>>1129016

Say we get into a big firefight with TOL. And then what? We win, because TOL are scrubs, but it will cost us most of our army and most importantly all our time, so when it's +1000 we limp into Jerusalem with the five cabals and two tanks we have left? Plus TOL has bases everywhere and a big transport navy. We have 1 country and 5-6 submarines.

>>1128960

this.

>>1128971

We've been doing good with the sneaky approach so far, why stop now.

How about calling Monday and threatening to make a documentary? What do we want from TOL other than them fucking off away from us?

>>1129066

THIS.

>>1129066
Incorrect, Sunday has attempted to sabotage our space efforts and is most likely to attempt to do so again, while the Monday usurpation might be a good thing, i suspect it might be fake, and even if true Monday might also me under effect of NC as he suspiciously decided to start the war on the same year some of our theorists have said the final battle would begin, they will try to fuck us over again and it's better if they are destroyed before they succeed.
>>1129072
My strategy for fighting TOL is to use superior Tech and strategy to quickly defeat TOL before we have too many casualties, our Greenland and Rome automatic bases can be assigned to constantly produce drones and vehicles to reduce casualties.
Their transport navy is easy to destroy if we ramp up our own navy this turn, and we can also set up kill zones on beaches to prevent them from reinforcing their soldiers from the sea.
This plan will grant us victory with minimal cost.

i'll provide my two cents soon.

I think we should keep the video, there's no doubt that TOL will not tolerate our capture and holding, but what can NOT be denied is that they have the military strength and lack of rationality to attack us and remove our chances of locking down tyrant.

>>1129251
>but what can NOT be denied is that they have the military strength and lack of rationality to attack us and remove our chances of locking down tyrant.
I deny this(The "Remove our chances of locking down tyrant" bit), while they have the numerical superiority we have superior tech, and if we preform decisive battles using superior strategy we can destroy their soldiers and they will have no advantage left.

>>1128216
>space Rome
>>1129300
>I deny this(The "Remove our chances of locking down tyrant" bit), while they have the numerical superiority we have superior tech, and if we preform decisive battles

Okay, you want to play this out like a Roman? Then it's DIVIDE ET IMPERA. We have TWO bands of religious nuts that we have to fight. OK one of them has actual God on their side but whatever. Do we want to let them fight each other and then beat up the survivor or do we want to stupidly take them both on? What would Caesar do? DIVIDE ET IMPERA.

>>1129375
*sinister grin.* DIVIDE ET IMPERA THEN! once TOL has engaged and before they completely lose their forces / before they are wiped out by TJ, we release out attack in the midst of the fight! Capturing tyrant and keeping him as the defensive line while we push out and route the TOLers! our positioning allows for such an attack and we know for a fact that TOL can't stand up to a serious tank push and recover fast enough to avoid being destroyed by a sudden second wave.

>>1129375
>Do we want to let them fight each other and then beat up the survivor or do we want to stupidly take them both on?
The problem here is that both the believers and TOL want us dead or subjugated, Sunday declared that anyone who leaves earth is an enemy of humanity and from >>1127211
Monday has the same sentiments, they both, and most likely the rest of TOL leadership, want us to stop our space efforts if not completely destroy all our space assets, they are still an enemy, not an ally, and it would be better for us if they were destroyed.

>>1129414

>destroy all our space assets

so what? they'd have to get their launch ramp back, AND build missiles, AND get them to hit (maybe they can put kamikazes on?), AND they don't have atomic motors so they'd take months to get to mars. Let's park the big ship around the moon that way we can see them coming and move it? We have infinite fuel they don't.

I vote for

>Generate an "independent documentary reconstruction" using moviemaking techniques, and allow it to spread unofficially.

why? because it trolls TOL enough to make them sweat but not enough to make them attack us. And more people will go to us instead of TOL even if TOL says it's fake news.

>>1129472
>>1129414
>>1129408
>>1129066
>>1128971

(I don't wanna be an asshole but can you pick one please? It's been 90 minutes. OK to tally votes?)

>>1129472
They can still try to destroy our launch base or even the canopy station, and it might not be just our space stuff that angers them enough to try to attack us, what if they find out about our silencer tech and declare war on us?
They are still hostile to us.

>>1129488
Sorry giest.
># Keep the report to your core personnel.

we got caught up with bigger picture, does GJ still have Armed and Militant MFers?

>>1129488
I am willing to go for either the independent documentary reconstruction or keeping the report to our core personnel.

>>1129488
>Fuck it, expose TOL's modus operandi to the whole world, even if it risks a war.
Use it as an excuse for war.

>>1129545

The Millennium Force remain unarmed, but are pretty militant and have been instrumental in shutting down the internet in various territories. Your historians indicate that their role is similar of that of the Blackshirts during Fascism: they will push the hard line version of government policy, either allowing the government to mediate and appear like the rational arbiter, or dealing with a problem without the shackles of law.

Most recently, MF have been running Children of the Tribulation - affiliated "reeducation schools" to mitigate the problem of a large percentage of youth being unwilling to trust in Jesus as their King, partially because the choices are "let the world end before I'm old enough to drive, and spend my short life on a farm in Kansas" and "let's not, plus you can go be an astronaut and own a farm on Mars if you want to do farming at all".

Statistics show that for the first time since the Rapture, the current (and likely last) generation may be majority-unbeliever. This would fit with the prophecy stating that Christians will once again be the minority, for however little time, before the Last Battle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bss5Ijpz6E
>>1129546
>>1129545
>>1129594

(So which is it?)

>>1129594
wanting to go to full blown war against TOL is literally suicide.

>>1129600
>So which is it?
My vote is still for war, they have repeatedly tried to fuck us and they will continue to do so.

>>1129628
No it's not, i have already explained my plan on how to go to war against TOL and come out on top, if you have criticisms of my plan you can voice them.

>>1129600
Keep it to ourselves, No point in starting a war yet... However, If we ambush them when they go to start the battle and use it to our advantage.

>>1129655
At that point using it won't do anything.

>>1129666
You're right Satan, Which is why we use it to launch our OWN attack on both factions to capture TJ and Satan.

remember, when TJ Opens his mouth, it's all over, so the second TJ stands up and is about to speak, he must be hit with a flying silencer drone.

>>1129678
That won't work, using the incriminating evidence in the final battle won't have nearly as much impact on people compared to doing it now.
It'll work but not very well.

>>1129698
were not talking about using "incriminating evidence." were talking about using our military and planning to swiftly BTFO TOL and TJ at the climax of the final battle.

>>1129693
That just made me realize something, if we have to silence TJ before he opens his mouth the TOL army will still be fully functional, Satan too, this means we will have to deal with TJ, destroy TOL and prevent Satan from usurping God's throne and just doing the reverse paradise earth.

>>1129706
Why can't we use our military and planning to swiftly BTFO TOL now?
It would be easier to do it >>1129716

>>1129716
all the more reason to focus on military.

what we should do now is hold the blanket statement that the Legion of Light is not a part of TOL and never will be, and while we will be willing to work to stop TJ our interest are completely and utterly in conflict.

>>1129727
>all the more reason to focus on military.
It's also the more reason to attack TOL now, that way we remove TOL, then remove Satan when he is released and finally remove TJ in the final battle.

>>1129747
Ok, i'll put this in the most simple terms possible, with extra allcaps. OUR MILITARY MIGHT IS NOT ENOUGH TO TAKE OUT TOL AND STILL HAVE THE MANPOWER TO CAN TJ AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME.

after at the least Five years of Gathering military might to compete with TOL, then we can possibly take them on. but it would have to be dedicated gathering of military might.

>>1129783
>OUR MILITARY MIGHT IS NOT ENOUGH TO TAKE OUT TOL AND STILL HAVE THE MANPOWER TO CAN TJ AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME.
THAT IS COMPLETELY WRONG.
If we completely reveal the incriminating evidence to the world we gain recruits from people who want to destroy TOL and some of TOL's army will be demoralized, if we then attack them on the same turn the sudden attack will be too quick and unexpected for them to properly set up defenses, if we use our superior tech and strategy we can severely reduce if not destroy their numerical advantage, we won't be losing our men if we mostly use drones and focus on guerrilla hit and run tactics.
At worst we would lose a few army dot's and a cabal or 2, which is fixed by destroying TOL and assimilating what is left+recruiting drives during and after the war.

>>1129824
how much of a recruitment boost is it if we reveal TOLs plan to pull a reverse judgement day, because i'm fairly certain that it would result in both sides gaining a recruitment boost. a LOT of the non-believing population would likely dance at the thought of flipping the "final punishment" onto the believers, rather then outright ending this apocalypse.

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Early in the year, TOL stragglers are collected from their canopy station - their supplies have run out, and their hydroponic facility was not quite up to keeping them self-sufficient for more than a few months. You can't really use the TOL astronauts for much, they are poorly trained. However, you do "inherit" what looks like a missile-launcher hovercraft truck designed to operate on smooth ice; the front section looks like it's made out of one of your Sonic Piledrivers.

Your analysts estimate that if effort is put in next year, Pacifica will be ripe for takeover the following year.

>>1129842

In that sense, TOL has a more satisfying story to offer than you do. The difference of course that they are offering a story, whereby you're offering something more measurable.

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Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.html

You have 26 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, 1 is canopy security, and 1 is army liaison, so 21 are available. Your civilian research grant is focused on a starship bubble shield. Your military grant is focused on heavy artillery.

You are not tracking enemy teams. TOL have set up their own transmitters to compete with the government in believing territories. Your new Sky Eye model acts as an analog transmitter as well.

You have 3 aerospace parts in storage. You have built an interplanetary ferry.

Freelancers are beginning to populate the colonies.

Variable complexity:

# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.

# Any interesting idea you might want to try.

# Deal with special situations.

# Assign manpower to research.

Complexity 0

# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.

C 1

# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.

# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).

# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.

# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.

# Work on Hell nodes.

C 2

# Resume tracking.

# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot)

# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.

# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. SPECIAL: Also applies to fortifying Nova Roma.

# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.

# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.

# Build aerospace parts.

# Do a space launch using parts you have built.

* Asteroid mining outposts

* Titan colony

* Large ship construction

C 3

# Build and launch Sky Eyes Mk2s in a territory, granting uninterruptible internet there.

# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.

# Hack into TOL systems.

# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.

# Convert 3 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediately

C 4

# Send crew from the canopy base to an off-world location, and replace the canopy base crew. (1 population dot; 1 cabal lost for Earthside ops)

# Recruit people who wouldn't make the cut as agents into your infantry.

C 5

# Begin building a base somewhere.

# Recruit a new cabal.

C 6

# Focus on your heavy weapons factory and instantly add 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).

>>1129842
how much of a recruitment boost is it if we reveal TOLs plan to pull a reverse judgement day, because I'm fairly certain that it would result in both sides gaining a recruitment boost. a LOT of the non-believing population would likely dance at the thought of flipping the "final punishment" onto the believers, rather then outright ending this apocalypse.
No they wouldn't, a lot of nonbelievers are nonbelievers because they don't want to live under God's tyranny, if they join TOL and help Satan usurp God they would be trading one tyrant for another.
I do agree that some nonbelievers will join TOL because they want to flip the prophecy, but the number will be minimal, we would also be releasing the treatment of the TOL peons which will discourage any who want to join TOL, they'll be disgusted by the living and working conditions that they are most likely to be in if they join.
>>1129874
>In that sense, TOL has a more satisfying story to offer than you do. The difference of course that they are offering a story, whereby you're offering something more measurable.
Also this, we have great propaganda and our ship can be seen.

>>1129880
I'm sorry but i can't decide how our cabals are assigned until i know if we're going to war this turn or not.

>>1129880
We ever get that tunnel to the temple finished? I thought we had that set up for a instant kill shot more or less?

Also I say we focus on military build up, work on regaining pacifica once more and make sure the space things are good to go

>>1129904

Last year's Feast of Tabernacles was unremarkable; your efforts to ensure that there is a Sky Eye based "backbone" for the internet have caused various volunteer groups and startups in cities to set up last-mile infrastructure setups, so that connectivity in most cities is once again guaranteed - albeit a lot slower than it used to be; in many territories 56k connections, modem hisses and couriering data discs rules the day again. The intel you have acquired in Antarctica is confirmed by the fact that TOL bases have erected large transmitters pretty much everywhere they could.

An oddity is that while the Temple ruling is not reversed, there is a significant debate in believing circles on whether it would be good for the youths' souls to allow rural internet access again, so that they may be reached. A proposal to build an alternate network is briefly floated, and rejected - instead, believers are offered "the data network experience" via a form of videotext. A few people in small villages across believing territories approve of this, seemingly forgetting that they had coax to the home just twenty years ago.

>>1129923

The tunnel network has reached the limit of Greater Jerusalem's bedrock; at the time you decided to wait before going further.

Your political analysts estimate that it will be possible to hold a proper election in Pacifica next year, if work is put in this year to make it possible.

>>1128220

Do MECs with cybernetics, and heavies with battleframes, count?

>>1129955
>Do MECs with cybernetics, and heavies with battleframes, count?
If your talking about a super strong humanoid soldier then yes, if your talking about a suit that enhances a soldiers capabilities then no.

>>1129955
Quick question, does
>Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).
also include taking over or destroying TOL bases?

>>1129983

No, that is a contested action; at least five cabals are recommended for a takeover. A fight would depend on how much of your army you are willing to commit (in dots) vs. how much of their army is there.

Note that an overt fight may start an all-out war.

>>1129904
war it out soon, but not yet. something that must be done first.

>>1129880
># Focus on your heavy weapons factory and instantly add 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).
large massive fucking tanks. twelve cabals.

># Recruit people who wouldn't make the cut as agents into your infantry.
Six Cabals Kat and Ithuriel. lets see if we can train Ithuriel in the arts of modern warfare.

># Begin building a base somewhere.
3 Cabals, Damien Jeb and Zak. put it in Egypt, Weapons factory.

>The tunnel network has reached the limit of Greater Jerusalem's bedrock; at the time you decided to wait before going further.

can we use anything to measure the distance on that and determine how long it would take to breach the surface without doing it.

>Greenland automated base
Produce the last aerospace parts for the measuring system incase jeb or another mec'd human volunteers.

Egypt Civilians are encouraged to try and find out if they can qualify for the mars colony. also whats with the grey dots there?

>>1129993
>war it out soon, but not yet. something that must be done first.
The war has to at least be next turn.

># Focus on your heavy weapons factory and instantly add 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).
>large massive fucking tanks. twelve cabals.
Would be better if we build more navy dot's to destroy TOL's sea transports and blockade their Antarctica base.

>can we use anything to measure the distance on that and determine how long it would take to breach the surface without doing it.
Pretty sure we have placed a sky eye on top of Jerusalem once, we can just use that to measure the rest of the distance.

>>1130014
>fucking tanks. twelve cabals.Would be better if we build more navy dot's to destroy TOL's
we can split it then, 1 for navy, and 1 for MFT.

see what the Dwarves have in mind when it comes to mechanical infantry and tanks.

>>1129993

You can only assign six cabals to heavy weapons production, since you only have one arsenal.

>>1129993

The grey dots represent colonists that got there through the public-access program rather than having been vetted by you.

>>1130014
>>1129993

The modified Sky Eye that was put above the Temple is long gone; you can put another one up again, but it will not last many years. The same goes for any pseudosatellite you place above Antarctica. There is such a thing as lightning bolts and high-altitude flak rocket barrages after all...

>>1130031
Alright, let's split it.
I'll support your orders if you support going to war against TOL next turn.

>>1130036
alright then, give me a moment to adjust for the lack of the other base this turn.

>>1130036
>You can only assign six cabals to heavy weapons production, since you only have one arsenal.
Well shit.
>The modified Sky Eye that was put above the Temple is long gone.
That's fine, but can we use the old data to see how many more miles we need to dig to reach Jerusalem?

>>1129993
># Focus on your heavy weapons factory and instantly add 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).
large massive war boat. Six Cabals. Damien and weaver on paid contract.

># Recruit people who wouldn't make the cut as agents into your infantry.
Six Cabals Kat and Ithuriel. lets see if we can train Ithuriel in the arts of modern warfare.

># Begin building a base somewhere.
3 Cabals, Damien Jeb and Zak. put it in Egypt, Weapons factory.

>The tunnel network has reached the limit of Greater Jerusalem's bedrock; at the time you decided to wait before going further.

can we use anything to measure the distance on that and determine how long it would take to breach the surface without doing it.

>Greenland automated base
Produce the last aerospace parts for the measuring system incase jeb or another mec'd human volunteers.

># Recruit a new cabal.
Five.

># Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.
one Cabal.

>>1130081
>large massive war boat.
Don't build that, build several ships designed to hunt TOL ships instead.

>>1130093
I can see the advantage to that. this then.

>>1130101
Alright then.
Supporting >>1130081

>>1130081
If the aerospace part isn't needed for the death time measurement can we use it to build a sky eye artillery ship?

>>1130048

Earth has been seismically stable; you can use the old data for an estimate.

>>1130135

Yes. IIRC the research had already been done.

>>1130155
>Yes. IIRC the research had already been done.
I was asking the other anon but still, excellent.
Do we need an extra aerospace part to measure the death time in space?

>>1130171
for sending out a capsule with someone in it, I would think so.

Geist?

>>1130171
>>1130180

Yes, since it would require being away for weeks or months, so a small capsule like the ones used for lunar operation wouldn't be sufficient. It may be most efficient to tie that effort to further colonization past Mars, so that the capsule can be used as a hab by future colonists who aren't squeamish about things like phantom spacemen.

>>1130081

Weaver is having sufficient fun with the submersible, and isn't particularly interested in helping in person, partly because she likes Damien personally but found working with the heavy to be somewhat grating. She's happy that you're finally putting together a proper navy, and offers some suggestions when it comes to your needs:

# extremely fast ekranoplans that would be almost impossible for escorts to catch, but very fragile.

# fast hovercraft that have most of an ekranoplan's speed advantage, while being able to limp home if the air cushion is damaged.

# conventional cruisers that should be able to get into a slugfest with TOL warships and win by attrition.

# more submarines, obviously: who said that modern navies are composed of subs and targets?

# fragile but cheap rocket-launching barges that can put up be towed by existing tugs, put up canopy cameras, and leverage your GPS tech to engage TOL ships from beyond the horizon.

>>1130276
># more submarines, obviously: who said that modern navies are composed of subs and targets?

whats our current submarine design?

>>1130276
>conventional cruisers that should be able to get into a slugfest with TOL warships and win by attrition.
Although keep that fast hovercraft design, they seem good.

>>1130284

Your current submarine design should best be called a submersible, since it's designed to only dive to a shallow depth and remain on the surface for normal operation; while it does feature nuclear engines, it doesn't have all the extra features that a pre-Rapture military sub does. However, it does feature a batysphere (for scouting the deeps) and, in addition to torpedo tubes, your standard heavy electromagnetic cannon. (See >>1127195 )

>>1130303
ok, were going to have to produce a fleet of dedicated torpedo warfare Subs. ones that can outdo Germany when It comes to sinking ships.

>>1130326
I'll change my vote to this.

>>1130276
Cruisers

Rolled 44 (1d100)

>>1130337
>>1130326

Your Mk2 subs are smaller and more agile than the Mk1s, forgoing the guns in order to carry more torpedos; they are organized so that a Mk1 can act as a sort of mothership for two or three Mk2s as far as food supplies are concerned. From Nova Roma's arsenal, the new navy units begin training in wolf-pack tactics.

# Accept Weaver's offer of a war game, one such pack of 3 subs against her own modified Mk1. Torpedos will be fired without warheads to ensure minimal damage, and ballistic designators will be used instead of cannons.

# Refuse; you will be fighting surface ships, not another sub, and you would waste time and learn nothing.

>>1130081

Kat and Ithuriel get along relatively well; Ithuriel has no problem with things like fire-and-maneuver and combined arms, but the concept of a ruse of war more or less completely evades him; the Angel has the world's worst poker face. This year's crop of recruits seem to mostly be kids from other territories.

>>1130402
>Accept Weaver's offer of a war game, one such pack of 3 subs against her own modified Mk1. Torpedos will be fired without warheads to ensure minimal damage, and ballistic designators will be used instead of cannons.
I recall a post that mentioned Weaver was attacked by a TOL sub.

>>1130402
># Accept Weaver's offer of a war game, one such pack of 3 subs against her own modified Mk1. Torpedos will be fired without warheads to ensure minimal damage, and ballistic designators will be used instead of cannons.

remind me to have the military grant work on a solution to sea mines.

>>1130402

Unfortunately, Kat and Ithuriel have to send a lot of prospective new recruits home, mostly due to age. (+1 army dot). Even so, the best and brightest are further screened by your recruiters to be added to your agent roster.

Space operations continue apace, even with Jeb only marginally involved while he scouts Misrayim for a place to build a new arsenal

# near Timbuktu.

# on the Atlantic, Mediterranean, or Red Sea coasts.

# in the interior.

The Imperium Profugus makes another trip to Mars and drops off another group of colonists, some of which start branching out from the original base site. This latest group has brought along a few flatcats bought from Pacifica. The security cabal rotation happens on schedule, improving your people's ability to handle the rigors of space.

Speaking of Pacifica, without a decisive push on your part the government regains some ground; while it has proven to be impossible for them to shut down the internet again, they do manage to corner broadcast media by shutting down the TOL transmitter there. Under Ely LeVey's leadership, Pacifican radio and TV ends up broadcasting absolutely shmaltzy propaganda, but quantity substitutes for quality. Notably, the few fledgling aquatic human colonies are given squatter status where they are, and forced by police and coast guard to move back on land; despite TOL lowering prices on extensive body mods, a few people abandon the experiment.

>>1130412
>>1130414


Damien enjoys being pitted against Weaver for a war game; the two play cat-and-mouse all over the Mediterranean, giving rise to rumours of war in the adjacent territories as electromagnetic guns thunder in the distance. Surprisingly, Damien is the victor, having one of the three subs left when Weaver's is "sunk".

You build a Hab for the asteroid belt, and start asking around if anyone wants to volunteer to spend their deathday alone for the advantage of space science.

>>1130476

# End year.

# Wait.

>>1130476
># in the interior.

># Wait.
start screening around Pacifica for a "Trump" Style Candidate. someone who's been in Pacifica for a long time and been studying the political climate for a long time, and recognizes TOL and GJ as poor for everybody. lastly and most importantly were going to release the TOL video and Have "Legion of Light" distance themselves from TOL.

>>1130482
>End year.
Alright, time for the opening move.
First we expose TOL's modus operandi.
Then we attack.
My plan is to leave 5 infantry units to defend our Territory, 3 in pacifica, Greenland and Egypt, 2 in west Europe, we have the rest of the army units attack the west America TOL base from Pacifica, the islands from Australia and west Europe from nova Rome.
Not sure about what units the attacks should have, but the 2 navy units should be split and sent to support the attack on the island and hunting TOL transport ships.

>>1130523

# Scan for a Trump style candidate.

# Scan for a candidate who knows and understands politics.

# Do both.

Jeb figures that building a base near Timbuktu would improve its defensibility but also make it a bigger target, and there's no need for another arsenal; the new base will be built in the Sahara. He makes a few agreements with Bedouin revivalists that have settled in the area, and begins construction.

With no official involvement from you other than use of a few nodes for CGI, the documentary has no pretense of having been filmed in Antarctica, and it's made clear that it is presented as a reconstruction/reenactment. Reactions are mixed: TOL denounces it as slander, unsurprisingly, and believing media refuses to air it because it's too violent and does not have a clear message, although a few Christian critic praise the journalistic effort. Happily, this causes Cameron Kirk Williams to want to do an expose on a TOL base; with any luck, either the TOLers or the Glorified reporter will get hurt in the process.

>>1130552

# Rush and attack this year.

# Perform preliminary troop movement and enter readiness this year, and attack next year.

>>1130576
>Perform preliminary troop movement and enter readiness this year, and attack next year.

>>1130576
># Perform preliminary troop movement and enter readiness this year, and attack next year.


what I'm asking for is a candidate the not so much understands politics but one who can effectively point out a problem and suggest a viable solution. ones in our favor.

This year's Feast of Tabernacles is somber; a Temple priest announces that once again the end times are nearing, and rumours of war have returned to the land. Ely LeVey travels with the Pacifican delegation in person, and receives many accolades for her missionary work; even Tsion is mollified.

The Millennium Force announce that they will form a volunteer defense group and begin to offer right-to-bear-arms classes to the faithful: of course the Lord's elect need no army, but it never hurts to be prepared.

Chaim Rozenweig has finally managed to figure out that the super-grain was artificial; since it's also considerably more flavorless, he begins leading a campaign to get rid of it.

>>1130599

Your search for a Renzi-style technocratic candidate who can garner enough respect from all the factions in Pacifica despite culminates in the location of Mr. Bissattini, an advocate of intraterritorial federalism. His claim is that there's no reason why somebody living in Orange County should be governed under the same rules as somebody living in the San Francisco Bay. The man is somewhat of an eccentric, but he does have a small following; Tree Of Life are neutral towards him. He's in his early nineties.

>>1130585
>>1130599

To nobody's surprise, Ithuriel volunteers to join the army fulltime; your sysadmins tell him to hold off.

Your troop movements do not go unnoticed, and you pick up an increase in TOL radio activity, some of which can be deciphered as surprise that you are going along with Monday's plan to attack early.

>>1130630
>That sudden militarization by the believers.
Oh boy my spider senses are tingling.

>>1130642
>some of which can be deciphered as surprise that you are going along with Monday's plan to attack early.
HEHHEHEHEEHE.

>>1130630
This could work.
>>1130642
this is going to be a fucking shitshow and a party all at once.

End year?

>>1130680
end year, and I'm about to pass out.

>>1130680
Yes.

>>1130476
I thought we were focusing on getting pacifica to work agina? And I wanted to see those mermaids make it, damn it all.

Reposting my war and hound drone designs.


Hound Drone.
Inspired by wolfenstein's panzerhund.
>Basically a dog/panther robot.
>Can carry everything the golf cart drone can.
>Pneumatic ram on it's front legs.
>Jaw has the PSI power of a crocodile on steroids.(A crocodile's bite is 3,700 PSI btw)
>Wubber in the mouth so it can use it's roar as a weapon.
>Tendril/Tentacle tongue to the mouth, like a resident evil licker.


Hovering war drone.
>A big sphere, size of a small car.
>Hover tech on it's bottom and back(And adjustment thusters on X,Y,Z axix points.) let's it traverse terrain fast and easy, including rivers and lakes.
>Lethal weapons on it's sides(machine guns, autocannons,wubbers, rail/gauss guns or neutron guns), internal wubbers on it's X,Y and Z points granting it a defense from angel's and nonlethal means to incapacitate.
See Theseus's drone in the beginning of hive queen quest for image.

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Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.html

You have 27 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, 1 is canopy security, and 1 is army liaison, so 22 are available. Your civilian research grant is focused on a starship bubble shield. Your military grant is focused on sea mines.

You are not tracking enemy teams. TOL have set up their own transmitters to compete with the government in believing territories. Your new Sky Eye model acts as an analog transmitter as well.

You have 3 aerospace parts in storage.

Freelancers are beginning to populate the colonies.

Variable complexity:

# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.

# Any interesting idea you might want to try.

# Deal with special situations.

# Assign manpower to research.

Complexity 0

# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.

C 1

# Use army units to attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.

# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.

# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).

# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.

# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.

# Work on Hell nodes.

C 2

# Resume tracking.

# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot)

# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.

# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments. SPECIAL: Also applies to fortifying Nova Roma.

# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.

# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.

# Build aerospace parts.

# Do a space launch using parts you have built.

* Asteroid mining outposts

* Titan colony

* Large ship construction

C 3

# Build and launch Sky Eyes Mk2s in a territory, granting uninterruptible internet there.

# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.

# Hack into TOL systems.

# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.

# Convert 3 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediately

C 4

# Send crew from the canopy base to an off-world location, and replace the canopy base crew. (1 population dot; 1 cabal lost for Earthside ops)

# Recruit people who wouldn't make the cut as agents into your infantry.

C 5

# Begin building a base somewhere.

# Recruit a new cabal.

C 6

# Focus on your heavy weapons factory and instantly add 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).

>>1130724
We're about to. In addition to military action, we're going to plant some heavy focus on Pacifica. We're going to do rallies, rebirth the "meme war", throw a lot of media coverage on this puppy.

>>1130724
I'm actually going to spend a few turns on that after this initial attack is over, so don't worry, we'll be continuing the takeover.

>>1130724

( Same here, FWIW. I'm not terribly interested in running a Risk quest with a timer, but if that's where this must go, then it's where it will go. Maybe it would be more fun if >>1130706
took over from here?)

>>1130746
I doubt were going to end up making a risk situation.

>>1130656

The Millennium Force has been given back the old "staging area" east of the Temple to train themselves and others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB3H05OhVDI

>>1130736
Before our army hit's TOL, send the leaders an email "i have declared war"
Then reveal it was us who made the Antarctica video.
Begin initial attack.
>5 cabals, 1 heavy unit and 2 infantry units attack the west Europe TOL.
>5 cabals, 1 navy unit and 3 infantry units attack the islands from Australia.
>5 cabals, 1 heavy unit and 3 infantry units attack west America from Pacifica.
the last naval unit patrols the sea attacking TOL's transport ships and any warships if they think they can get away with minimal to none casualties.
Have our sky eyes track any TOL army movement.
>Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.
1 cabal, don't know which territory.
>Focus on your heavy weapons factory and instantly add 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).
6 cabals, super heavy artillery platforms.
>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.
Sky eye artillery ship(does it need to be launched or is it automatic?)

>>1130808
Fucking hellfire man. . . fuck it, but we have to win the election.

after the attack, the Pacifica cabal should go after the election.

>>1130808
Now here is how our land battles should go.
>assault.
Our land army's objective will be to deliver the most casualties on the TOL army, with an optional objective being taking or destroying the TOL base, they can have the option to retreat at any time to avoid casualties.
first we begin with a artillery volley on TOL soldiers, then we send in drones, some human squads will be scattered among the drone army, they will direct the drones and attack anything of importance in the chaos of battle, the squads can and should retreat if they think they will receive casualties.
Sniper teams will also be scattered, they will snipe any TOL officers or other high ranking individuals.
In the event that Zombie hordes start appearing, the drones should be sent to destroy or hold them off while snipers search and snipe the controlling officer.

>>1130847

Due to inconsistent efforts by your cabal and Ely LeVey's presence, the takeover effort for Pacifica is only at 3/5 (it was at 4/5 last year, but pressure was not kept constant). Attempting to force an election at this point would be unlikely to work, save for exeptional circumstances (which can be manufactured, of course).

>>1130808

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylyqoxh-cXk

>>1130808
"We", better be the legion of light.
>5 cabals, 1 heavy unit and 3 infantry units attack west America from Pacifica. Ithuriel, Zak, Jeb

>5 cabals, 1 navy unit and 3 infantry units attack the islands from Australia. Damien

>5 cabals, 1 heavy unit and 2 infantry units attack the west Europe TOL.
Kat.

What do people think our 1 cabal should be doing? i have them on jamming duty but i haven't decided which Territory yet, probably West europe.

>>1130854
that leaves the Zombie hoard rampant with no control. i'll adjust for these things in a second.

>>1130867
That's the point, if they aren't organized they can be easily destroyed or even lured to another location.

>>1130866
># Use army units to attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.
were going to halt the election in the wake of this war.

>>1130873
alright, I think I got your meaning now. just be sure to focus fire these targets.

Why are we not waiting until they are in position and suprise attack them? They are currently on the defenseive with us. We will lose

>>1130893
you raise a fair point, which is why we should engage with their plan for fighting tyrant. raising the battle standards in one direction while having the armies advance from the other.

>>1130866

At this point I think you are trolling / are trying to throw the quest. The QM has made it painfully obvious that total war with TOL will make it practically impossible to focus on beating TurboJesus, and yet you have been pushing for it relentlessly. You kept throwing research effort at inane things like bubble shields (what the hell does a sonic shield do IN SPACE?), impractical stuff like legged vehicles (in a world with no mountains) and you've let the pacifica takeover go up and down for 6-7 years with no resolution other than annoying our allies. Are you a double agent?

>>1130893

Listen to this guy for humanity's sake!

>>1130736

Alternative "let's not get into a land war in Asia" proposal:

Send some troops to Pacifica for a possible defensive action if the takeover causes trouble. Make sure the rest of our army is covering Misrayim (especially the launch complex), Nova Roma, and maybe Night City properly. Our navy should patrol Greenland.

2 Resume tracking

3 Resume taking over Pacifica. Have Kat do it since she was having fun with it.

8 Start building a kinetic strike vehicle. If we absolutely have to wage war, we will fire exactly two shots, one on Antarctica and one on the Temple. And they will be flying at half the speed of light.

All other cabals should put effort in restoring the global internet, it's our most powerful propaganda weapon and the only one that both TOL and NJ keep trying to take away from us.

>>1130893
>They are currently on the defensive with us.
I don't think so from >>1130642
They think(or at least the soldiers think) that we are preparing to fight the believers, the attack is still Mostly unexpected and anyone who thinks we are preparing to attack them will be to late in convincing the TOL army to mobilize a defense.

>>1130923
your raise some fine points. TJ is the primary threat, an I did want to engage TOL with a direct attack on Antartica if at all. cancel >>1130808 for now. were going to have to carefully work this turn out.

>>1130930
>>1130923

(Hey, play nice. I don't think anyone is trying to throw the quest. As far as what was or wasn't suboptimal strategically, I will do a postmortem post when it's all over one way or the other).

>>1130911
>>1130893
>>1130939

(Okay, I'm happy that y'all find this quest engaging! Is it OK if I pass out for now though? It seems to me that starting a world war is best done after getting some sleep)

>>1130923
>The QM has made it painfully obvious that total war with TOL will make it practically impossible to focus on beating TurboJesus, and yet you have been pushing for it relentlessly.
I have already posted my strategy on how to go t war against TOL and come out with minimum casualties.
If you have criticisms with my plan voice them
>You kept throwing research effort at inane things like bubble shields (what the hell does a sonic shield do IN SPACE?)
The bubble shields, based on a real article, help defend us against natural space phenomena that can harm our ships, the plasma shield protects from solar radiation and the magnetic shield protects from micrometeorites.
>impractical stuff like legged vehicles (in a world with no mountains)
I'll admit the first legged tank i thought up was based more on rule of cool, but it's design is still efficient and functional if not better that a light tank with tracks.

Alright war council. were set to going back to plan A, locking down tyrant, pushing TOL away from the mountain to prevent him from getting free. right now as it stands we can probably charge right in and capture TJ, but we would lose control of the mountain immediately after. that's what we have to prevent.

Tanks are now the best bet for maintaining that control. as well as long ranged artillery strikes. any suggestions?

>>1130955
Agreed, Obviously spamming out that much sabaton must be tiring. heh heh.

>>1130966
in all honesty, your plan was absolute bullshiting. it was like Clintons campaign, state a goal and throw resources at it.

>>1130967
I disagree with the original plan based on a new realization.
We have to silence TJ before he opens his mouth and bathes earth in fire, if we do that that leaves the TOL army with full strength and gives Satan the greatest opportunity to take God's throne, it is in this window of time that our entire plan can fail.

>>1130996
But they have proven to be neigh ineffective on the offensive against us when we have sufficient preparation. IE artillery and rapid deployment Tanks, STD drops, and a swift counter assault from Egypt and New Rome

So because normal weapons that try to cause direct to glorified and by following TJ and Most likely Satan. I have an idea.

Massive artillery of our knock out gas, either ODST's down, setting up the sliencing guns on the canopy and firing down onto the battlefield, or just dropping that section of the canopy ontop of TJ and swopping in shortly there after. These are the best ways to conserve our manpower, and also inflict the most damage on the enemy + chances at securing TJ and Satan for prison.

Remember Satan 'can't' win, so we need to knock him out to stop us from defeating TJ.

>>1131031
Once the moon and Mars are "full" we can possibly cut out those key segments of the canopy.

Either way we should use the video release to state Legion of Light is not a part of TOL and desires no affiliation with TOL.

>>1131009
>But they have proven to be neigh ineffective on the offensive against us when we have sufficient preparation.
Still, they would have their entire army surrounding Jerusalem which will, even with artillery volley and tank charge, take time to destroy, Satan is also a major problem, we have to prevent him from taking God's throne after TJ is silenced, this is extremely difficult if not impossible, Satan would be surrounded by the TOL army which means we can't fight our way to him in time, unless we have an army unit near him it will be impossible to reach him, and if we do have a army unit near him implanting a MEC in him(or killing him) will also be near impossible due to being surrounded by the TOL army, which will attack us as soon as they realized were attacking Satan.
Also what you said applies to attacking TOL now.

>>1130966
Your petit strategy is fine. Your grand strategy is nonexistent. Your plan would win every battle and lose the war. Either you have some way to disintegrate TOL in two turns, or we get mired in a world war. What side would God take? Who knows? Even if it's none, and we beat TOL, then wat? Now we're the official opposition. We go to the Last Battle, and we get obliterated.

>>1131009

Metagaming a bit here, but: this quest has been all about prep. Maybe our army thinks we're Space Rome, but in actuality, we're Batman. DCAU Batman to be specific. We are dealing with baddies with cosmic powers and rigid morality... and we have been winning because while we don't have any NC to speak of, we prepare in advance, choose our battles, and Muggles Do It Better. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MugglesDoItBetter How did we lose Quinn? By throwing her at a target on a whim. How did we lose Pacifica? By ignoring the details and not noticing that our rule was being undermined.

>>1131031

Making Satan win would be a good way to derail the plot, and if we can KO God, we can KO Satan.


Now if we want to do the stupid thing and go to war, we have to do it body and soul, Russians in WW2 style. If we say "it ends tonight" then it damn well ends tonight, we scorch Antarctica, I wouldn't even be against sacrificing our cargo ship as a makeshift kill vehicle. But we should let everyone think that the prophecy is playing out as intended UNTIL we pull the rug.

>>1131031
When Tol raises the battle standards on GJ we could send out some massive artillery strikes on them. Even before TJ is secured we could launch a fairly simple attack from the flank.

>>1131031
The silencing wubber has a limited range, we can't put them on the canopy and expect it to work on believers on the ground.

>>1131031
>>1131070

Silencers only work basically in melee range for what we've seen. Someone is going to have to punch TurboJesus and Satan out, or at least distract them until a facehugger drone does its thing. >>1131070 if those were your design, I retract my accusation of double-agent-ing, it's a nice bit of tech that can turn the tide.

>>1131070
Damn Wasn't aware of that. Thanks Anon, Do you have the range by chance?

>>1131069
I firgured we could gas both parties as they head for the field of 'battle'. Hence part of why we have a tunnel.

>>1131065
we can't 'make' Satan win, its heavily implied his actually controlled by TJ's dad and is gonna lose no matter what happens. That's the issue, If anything he'd fight US to ensure he has an 'honorable' fight with TJ, thus ensuring his loss.

>>1131055
>>1131053
If we drop a piece of the Canopy ontop of the battle, It'll buy us the time we need to get into position or move forces in to gas everybody which is something we can do and then webber/neutron/whatever Satan and TJ.

>>1131065
>Your plan would win every battle and lose the war.
So my plan wins every battle, and the rest of my army moves which i haven't posted will win every war?
>Either you have some way to disintegrate TOL in two turns, or we get mired in a world war.
It certainly won't be 2 turns but it will be quick i assure you.
>What side would God take? Who knows? Even if it's none, and we beat TOL, then wat? >Now we're the official opposition. We go to the Last Battle, and we get obliterated.
We won't be affected by the narrative since we have no soul, our cabals might, but we can keep them under silencer wubbers to prevent that.