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Welcome back, SOUL officers, to the seventy-fifth installment of Mecha Space Pirate Quest. As always, I'm Wong, your host, and today you are still Lieutenant Amos A. Wedge of UJCIDF SOUL.

Previous Threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Mecha+Space+Pirate+Quest%2C+Collective+Game%2C+mecha
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Mecha%20Space%20Pirate%20Quest
Master Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/sSHs0QmF
Upgrade Menu: http://pastebin.com/QQQzkFZe
List of Moves: http://pastebin.com/HSdyCe2y
Rogues' Gallery: http://pastebin.com/E9ZcDLfG
Brazilia's Kawaii Space Jam Gallery: http://pastebin.com/pZtRmbWS

Last time, you got an inkling of what Mohammed and certain members of the Iron Kestrels are doing on Qu'lir, Amos led an assault on the Great Zann Dam in the S-Delphinius, then led a raid team into the dam itself, facing the bio-drones of a downed Green Man bio-armor before facing and destroying the Green Man's proxy itself.
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>>1117605
IT BEGINS.
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>>1117605
Awww yeah MSPQ Time
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>>1117605
time for best quest
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>>1117605
AWAKEN MY AVAL....eerrrr I mean... KESTRELS!
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Huzzah more Resident Nya
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>>1117605
It's time.
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>>1117605
Gas the Avalonians, space war NOW!
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>>1117641
Hey Brazil, I went over the Rolling Thunder and realized I made some mistakes. It's nothing major, but I fixed them and updated it. Since Wong's using your paste, could you put this under the other link?

http://pastebin.com/hnpUAV4K
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>>1117684
Re-revising it now, foun errors already.

Also,
>Gyrfalcon, I revise your mech last thread but I think that you didn't got to see it, check the archives please.
>M-Sagister, did Wong said something about your forms and feet? Do you have a final version? This is probably the last thread to do it.
>Just waiting Wong's confirmation on if Solaire can get in or not, and I will add his mech on the list.

>Libra is going to get updated today, even if I die trying.
>F-type will get its attention too.
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Amazingly, you survive Irina's assault.

Your burns are healing up nicely, but you're still a bit stiff, in part because you haven't had the chance to fly in a few days...which grates on you, because you want to stay at your sharpest for the battles to come. Consequently, you're drifting off a little as you watch the Cassim's Folly firing one of its CIWS batteries over and over again into a hole excavated on a nearby hill, where geological surveys indicate is the most likely spot for the center mass of the bio-armor. It's a brisk, breezy day on top of the Great Zann Dam where you're enjoying a brief repast with the other officers present, and you have the pleasure of watching power-armored kill teams with flamethrowers troop in and out of the dam. Over ninety percent of the bio-armor infiltrating the dam is dead, including the fruiting body that was producing the drones, the rest is underwater, the stump of the main tentacle mass that your forces have been taking turns shredding. The fact that this only represents one limb of the bloated, decayed thing does not comfort you at all.

“So, let me get this straight. You tried to unlawfully halt and possibly conscript someone on suspicion of being a space pirate.” Captain Asphodel, despite his recent promotion, is showing no mercy in grilling Lieutenant Rabban over some incident in Innsmouth.

“He was! I swear it to you, and he was allied with Avalon!” Lieutenant Rabban protests, “Why won't you believe me!?”

Asphodel's scowl deepens, “Because nothing about your story makes sense. You identified him as a member of a fleet active in the Belt, in the Solar System, light years away from here. A pirate fleet that is allied with Jupiter.” He's been in an awful mood ever since finding out that Ensign Keith 'Jesus' Young is here. Although he started laughing in a rather unhinged manner when he saw Young's Warmouth, and had to excuse himself from a briefing for a while to calm down.

“Quite right. I'm sure your uncle has told you the same. You do follow the news briefings, don't you? They're quite informative sometimes, although I personally find them a bit lacking on cultural affairs. If the Iron Kestrels were operating on Qu'lir, surely we would have bigger problems.” Captain Clearwater arrives with a tray of sandwiches and a pair of large thermoses, “Coffee or tea, Lieutenant Wedge?”

>[Coffee]
>[Tea]
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>>1117728
Yeah I'm just gonna throw it out there in case you haven't seen it but here is the bin and I can post images of the mech and pilot if you so wish it though he is basically Solaire of Astoria

http://pastebin.com/cfgEhQrX
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>>1117735
>>[Tea]

Coffee is but muddy water.

And thus begins the war
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>>1117735
>>[Coffee]
Need to keep awake for the day. Don't want to fall asleep.
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>>1117735
Starting off with one of those "get players to drop the quest" votes Wong? You madman.
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>>1117735
>>[Coffee]
Need the energy for all the bullshit we're going to have to deal with
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>>1117735
I personally enjoy both tea and coffee but if I had to make a decision
>Cawfee
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>>1117728

Solaire is in.

>>1117749

Player infighting is a healthy and natural thing.
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>>1117749
Caufae
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>>1117735
>[Tea]
"While I wouldn't say that they are necessarily allies, Starwind has far too good a feel for public relations to jog our elbow in this situation."
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>>1117755
Praise the Lady in all her glorious greenery and shrubbery!
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>>1117735
>>[Tea]
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>>1117735
>>[Coffee]
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>>1117755
Oh yeah, I asked last thread but you had already left. Do you want us to schill our mech designs to you?
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>>1117735
>[Coffee]
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>>1117735
>Coffee
A soldier's best friend.

Also, is ADF-01 Lightning Tourney Kosher?
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>>1117758
A JOYOUS OCCASION!
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>>1117728
I redid the talons without any weird feet rules so they're just like any other weapon just mounted on the feet, and changed the beam sweepers to beam guns, its also only a mecha beast now, no avian form.
still has 10k quick AP linked kicks though.
http://pastebin.com/sR0KhwEu
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>>1117755
You know that he is Solaire/Gawain right?
I hope that this isn't a problem with the paladins and all.

>>1117758
>>1117775
FOR THE QUEEN! FOR AVALON!PRAISE!
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>>1117749
I think this pic related is obligatory

>>1117775
Let us drink the mead of pirates in celebration!
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>>1117755
>Quest fanbase splits not due to Avalon
>Not due to who is best girl
>Not due to best boy
>Not due to best mech
>But due to Coffee or Green tea
>Quest fanbase reunites when someone says tap water.
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>>1117794
>tap water.

>Strawberry milk
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>>1117797
>not glorious chocolate
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>>1117797
Well, I didn't say unite for tap water. Tap water here is halfway into metal.
Also it's chocolate or vanilla when it's a milkshake. If it's a good occasion, Rootbeer float.
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>>1117794
Distilled bull testicles.
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>>1117794
don't like coffee or green tea, I like black tea, but I'm a scrub who uses a shitton of milk and sugar with it.
>>1117797
>>1117802
>not coconut-aloe soft drink
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>>1117802
So grab Mocha! Coffee and Cocoa!

Coffee wins

Suck it, teafags
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>>1117810
>tfw you only buy it for the float
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>>1117794
not drinking Chai Tea with Espresso shots in it
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>>1117820
Haaah.. so you are one of those types? Bet you don't let the soda crystalize on the ice cream to get a creamsicle style treat with your drink?
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>>1117837
You can do that?
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Ice cream or frozen yogurt?
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>>1117757
To be fair with a green man on the loose it might be appropriate to hire these crimson Talon's for merc work. If it leads to a dead greenman I don't care if they have an orange haired pugalist with a fake mustache
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>tfw you don't really like much both

I can't drink coffee without milk, and I can't even drink much milk anyway.

Tea is okay I guess... I don't have much experience with it and most of times it just doesn't taste much like anything.
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>>1117843
>the original
>or an inferior knockoff
Don't ask questions you know the answer to.
Once you have homemade ice cream, you can never go back to frozen yogurt or cheap ice cream ever again.
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>>1117735
>>1117844
Seconding this, even Roark Starwind can't be worse than an army with mechas led by a ruthless Paladin who wants to free an eldritch monstruosity
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>>1117843
gellato if possible. Richer flavor and a good bit smoother on the palette.
>>1117842
Indeed. A side effect of it is that some of the vanilla ice cream melts into the soda, giving it a bit of a creamy undertone.
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>>1117728

Don't worry BR, i saw your post, just to late to reply. I've been working on the Gyrfalcon thsi afternoon, i'll post it here after Wong is finished for the day, don't want to get in the way too much.
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i'm off to bed. good night everyone. try not to get us killed
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>>1117869
Eh, gellato is okay. Feels insubstantial though. And despite what people say, "real" gellato in Italy and shit isn't inherently better than the stuff you find in the States.
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“We'd be missing half the fleet by now.” Asphodel grunts in confirmation, “The female half.”

“What a tragedy that would be. A man is at his manliest when surrounded by flowers.” Captain Clearwater proclaims grandly, while Captain Asphodel rolls his eyes in disdain.

“But...but...” Lieutenant Rabban wails, “He was with an Avalonian! I distinctly heard a ye!”

“You can't arrest someone for saying ye.” You point out. “Their boss has too much to lose. If he's on Avalon's side, why bother keeping one of their Paladins?” You know they're there, but you strongly doubt an alliance with Avalon. You can't imagine Irina's sister would let her be put in danger like that...or at least, so you hope.

“Because he's Roarke Starwind and she has tits.” Asphodel growls, “But you're right, if he could be hired to come here and mess with us, we'd know it by now. So let me give you an alternate theory. Lady Fatima Ahmad is captured by the Iron Kestrels and her bodyguards are defeated. Starwind keeps their mecha, and possibly takes in a few of their members, but a few leave either by escape or because he just doesn't care about people he can't ransom. Shamed and not wanting to return to Mars with a sullied reputation, one of these goes to Qu'lir in hope of finding a new life, possibly a career with the local militias or as a mercenary, and above all else staying away from the Black Ogre. This lasts until you assault him, try to push your religion on him, and threaten him with arrest, at which point he knocks one of your officers unconscious and his girlfriend shoots you with the tranq gun she carries for self-defense. The so-called Avalonian was probably just a local resident whose accent you mistook, why would one of them come to Innsmouth when it's under our control? If they're a spy, they're damned bad at it for getting involved.”

“At any rate, we've had quite enough of these strongarm tactics. No more forced conversions, my lad. Colonel Luxol has had a very serious talk with your uncle, and believe me, if you don't cooperate we can and will find members of the Holy Militia who will.” Captain Clearwater's voice is quite stern, “The boy did the right thing standing up to you. This is not a war of conversion, we are here to prevent the evils of the past from resurfacing and to put an end to the Green Men.”

You nod firmly, “If it doesn't stop, we're stopping it. That's how it is. Correct me if I'm wrong, Captains, but the ranking officers on this planet are all Jovian, right?”

“Quite right.” Captain Clearwater agrees, and Captain Asphodel nods. They've been treating you like you have the same rank ever since the raid, as a mark of respect. SOUL might normally be able to pull rank even on higher-ranking officers from the regular forces, but you've tried not to use that whenever possible, which makes it a bit eerie when they treat you like a senior officer.

[Continued]
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>>1117878
You can't tell me what to do, I'm white.
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>>1117879
Well, I don't really eat deserts to fill me up. I eat them to enjoy the flavor and sensation. If I can get more flavor from less, I am fine with that.
>>1117884
>“Because he's Roarke Starwind and she has tits.”
He's not wrong.. if there was a planet of cute girls and traps, I think we'd have to rescue it.
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>>1117878
Good dreams Avalon-kyun, don't worry, we won't be more suicidal than the usual today.
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>>1117891
>a planet of cute girls and traps
My paradiso
>Pic related is Roarke Starwind on such a planet
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>>1117891
Who eats NOT because they are hungry?

Goddamn youth corps hippy fascist vegan vapers who do crossfit.
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>>1117891
Its a planet filled with Catboys and Catgirls, its exactly that.
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>>1117884

So instead of being an incompetent fuckup that isn't punished because he's high nobility, this Iok is actually competent but just screwed over by happenstance. I mean, he did spot the pirate and the Avalonian cavalier immediatly,

It almost makes you feel sorry for the bastard. Almost
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Is their such a thing as cloaking specific parts of your mech? If we could cloak our arms and bits we would be alot stronger
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>>1117902

That's just Roarke walking through the street on Qu'lir.
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>>1117891
>He's not wrong.. if there was a planet of cute girls and traps, I think we'd have to rescue it.
So.... Quil'r?
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>>1117912
Well, bits are considered separate mechs for construction. So if you want to shell out for the increased price, it is possible. Course, thats substituting quantity with quality.
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>>1117912
technically there aren't part specific cloaking devices in the corebook or ATM iirc, so we can't really just cloak the kaisers fists, but the bits could potentially be given cloaking I think since you stat remote systems like you would a mech for the most part.
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Lieutenant Rabban scowls. “There is no stronger shield against the Green Men than Islam. There is no victory possible without Allah on our side. You should consider the states of your souls before presuming to judge mine.”

“It's more of an advantage having Dejah Thoris on your side.” You point out, you've looked up some of her supposed feats, “Where is she, by the way? I'd like to meet her in person.” You have several questions to ask. “Oh, I'll take coffee, sir.” You accept a cup from Captain Clearwater, and take a sip. Good stuff, is that a hint of hazelnut you detect?

Lieutenant Rabban stares at you, “I...I don't know. Somewhere on Mars, I would imagine.”

You stare back, “What? No. She's on Qu'lir. She was with us during the battle, her mechafighter saved one of my troops. Wasn't she with you? When she left I thought it was to go back to the Cassim's Folly.”

Lieutenant Rabban stands up abruptly, slamming his palms down on the table. “You mock me, infidel!?”

Captain Asphodel's face reddens, and he opens his mouth to deliver a fierce tongue-lashing, but Captain Clearwater puts a hand on his shoulder and shakes his head, “Young Asim is going to have to learn on his own. Either he will apologize, or I'm sure Lieutenant Wedge would be happy to accept his offer of a duel.”

You adjust the Paladin's monosword at your side nonchalantly, and Lieutenant Rabban blanches, “I beg your pardon, I am simply a bit...shocked. If Dejah Thoris was indeed here, she would surely have been assigned command of Martian forces and given rank in the Holy Militia. We would have known, there is no way we would not have known the legendary masked ace of the desert.”

You resolve to practice hard with your swordplay before someone starts assuming you're really an expert. You've had great luck so far, and you have a good weapon, but that only gets you so far.

Captain Asphodel looks as though he's imagining throwing Lieutenant Rabban into the lake. You can practically see it in his eyes.

You see Ensign Young approaching with a self-important bounce to his step, and Captain Asphodel's furrowed brow furrows further. You worry about what all of that stress is doing to his heart.

[Continued]
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>>1117927
Wong set a hard limit of 6-7 so I think we could afford it while still beefing up and adding other systems.
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>>1117934
Wonder what Asphodel's rage level is at.
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>>1117935
Wait, did Wong raise the CP limit for Space Jam?
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>>1117934
>Captain Asphodel looks as though he's imagining throwing Lieutenant Rabban into the lake. You can practically see it in his eyes.
>You see Ensign Young approaching with a self-important bounce to his step, and Captain Asphodel's furrowed brow furrows further. You worry about what all of that stress is doing to his heart.

Poor dude. We need to set him up. Everyones getting tail (literally in some cases) but him.
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>>1117946
No I'm talking specifically about the Kaiser
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>>1117946
No... He is talking about the Kaiser's bits.
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>>1117935
Honestly, I want to get some megaheavy disassemblers. Ripping apart limbs or simply grabbing and throwing enemies about to inflict damage and lost turns can help alot. Also, big, beefy claws.
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>>1117684
>Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 S/K, 0.5 Tons, 700 km range.

Its 2Kills, not 1, so it weights 1 Ton, making your final weight be 39.5.

Also, the range is 7Km.

No need to readjust spaces or points though, I just checked it.
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>>1118005
I didn't fix the 700 km thing? Shit.

Also, it is 1 kill and 0.5 Tons. They're Medium Striker sensors.
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>>1118005
Oh, you also don't have to go over it. But if you doing so, will you replace the original with that version?
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>>1117739
Magnarus full name? Please think it well as you have to decide the name of your clan.
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>>1118028
>if you doing so
if you keep doing so.
I just keep dropping the ball.
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>>1118034
Is there any special way Avalonians have of naming their clan because it'd otherwise be
>Magnarus Letholdus
The surname is added to the bin
>Pic is Mag with his elder sisters
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>>1118018
Ouch.
It seems that the Corebook and the ATM diagree in that matter...
>>1117934
Wong, should the Medium Striker sensors have 2K as implied in the corebook? Or 1K as in the ATM sensor chart?
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>>1118065
I'll look through the ATM errata and see if they address that.
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Sorry about the delays, dinner-related problems.
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>>1118077
You have to turn the toaster oven on before putting in your Tendies Wong.
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>>1118057

For fuck's sake don't listen to BR and start coming up with clans and siblings and a million other plot details. Do not pick theme songs. Do not write a novel about your tourney pilot's life and their favorite breakfast cereal. I didn't even have it down solid that both Avalon pilots were in Loriette's employ and was going to have one of you be a Roosevelt vassal until all of this backstory discussion made it clear you were both deadset on being blue knights instead of red knights.

>>1118065

REEEEEE

I've been using 2K this whole time.
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>>1118083
Also, you're suppose to wait for 2 minutes, not take them out after 30 secs
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>>1118090
Just do what you want man. Better story building and less trying to cram everyone's ideas into it if they don't fit.
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>>1118091
Don't forget to flip them over so both sides are crisp.
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Its interesting to notice that the Anons that love Avalon are by far the most autistic I mean the other side just has one Autist, and I bet he doesn't even know it
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>>1118090
Well that's just great. Looks like I'll have to go fix that then.

The only character trait I care about is Mai being an autist lord for models, large planes and mobile armor. All her friends dying was just a convenient device to get her to join the Kestrels and give her her inspiration's scar. It wrapped everything up in one quick, easy event. Feel free to change it if you want.
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“Lieutenant, sir!” Ensign Young salutes you, then nods nonchalantly to the Captains, “Gentlemen.”

He doesn't even seem to notice Rabban. Rabban bristles, but it's a subdued sort of bristling after the browbeating he's received.

Captain Asphodel grits his teeth, Captain Clearwater just smiles.

“At ease, Ensign.” Captain Asphodel grunts.

“I already am. Oh, sandwiches!” Jesus' eyes light up, “I was getting hungry, thank you Lieutenant.” He grabs one before Captain Asphodel can whisk the plate aside. The biggest one.

Rabban is apparently more perceptive than Jesus. He flinches at the look in Asphodel's eye. It's a look even you've never seen back when he thought you were screwing over the regular forces. It's a look that promises murder.

Jesus just munches happily on his food, swallowing before giving you a friendly grin, “We've received a communication from the SOUL squad sent to harass the Avalonian advance.” He glances back at the Captains, “Lieutenant, sir, are you sure I'm allowed to discuss SOUL business in front of the regs? Are they cleared for all of this?”

A vein starts to pulse in Asphodel's forehead.

“Yes, of course.” You try to head things off now before they get bad.

“Are you sure, sir? I mean, can they be trusted if they couldn't get into SOUL?” Jesus expresses doubt.

“Absolutely.” You kick Asphodel underneath the picnic table you're using when you see him reaching for his sidearm. No blue-on-blue today.

“But General Fairchild said...” Jesus cheerfully digs his grave deeper.

“Colonel Luxol.” You cut him off, “Has instructed me specifically that we are to follow the guidance of the senior officers among the regular forces.” He's said no such thing but you don't think it actually needed to be said.

“Well, General Fairchild outranks him.” Jesus sniffs dismissively, “But alright, this one time. I mean, I'd be more comfortable if they went somewhere else, and I did save your life...” He trails off.

You slam your fist down on the table, “ENSIGN YOUNG, YOUR REPORT! NOW!” You roar at him, before Asphodel can shoot him.

He winces, “Alright, alright! Yes sir! The squad...” He frowns, “Colonel Luxol didn't say anything about using their silly nickname, did he?”

[Continued]
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>>1118090
>For fuck's sake don't listen to BR and start coming up with clans and siblings and a million other plot details. Do not pick theme songs. Do not write a novel about your tourney pilot's life and their favorite breakfast cereal.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
I feel bad now...
...But I'm innocent on the theme songs parts, never picked one and didn't began with it.
Also, Solaire said that he should be from a minor and almost irrelevant family... So I didn't thought that it should be a problem... My bad...

> I didn't even have it down solid that both Avalon pilots were in Loriette's employ and was going to have one of you be a Roosevelt vassal until all of this backstory discussion made it clear you were both deadset on being blue knights instead of red knights.
Are they really? Solaire was just throwing Ideas around and we didn't got too far with it even at least not near Victor's level... so maybe he would be okay with it.
Also, this Idea sounds very dramatic... I like it.
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>>1118090
There are blue knights and red knights? I thought the only blue knight was Amos

and I only did it because he asked, and I don't have a theme song and I kept his backstory deliberately vague because this is your story, he's just a background character, I only did the backstory so it'd make sense as to why he acts the way he does.

Personally I didn't intend to give him a last name let along go deep into him as a character.
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>>1118108

jesus pls
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>>1118105

It's fine, but that's probably as deep as I'm going to get into it unless I somehow find the thread with her backstory. As a general advisory to everybody, if someone besides me asks for more details or additional information, do NOT feel obligated to do it because there's a good chance I won't even KNOW about it.
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>>1118108
It's like he TRIES to be as massive a prick as possible. It's actually impressive.
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>>1118108
Jesus is looking for an early Crucifixion
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>>1118108
And people feel bad about being a dick to him, he deserves even worse.
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>>1118108
Gonna go Judas on his ass if he keeps that shit up.
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>>1118127
It keeps swing back and forth. Everytime he shows a more human sympathetic side he goes back to being a massive insufferable cock.
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>>1118120
>insert Titus, get the cross.jpeg here
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>>1118110
>There are blue knights and red knights?
Basically, there are two subfactions of Avalonian knights that the Kestrals can plausibly recruit from. The knights of Countess Le Kennedy, (the paladin we beat) and the knights of her VILE NEMESIS. Blue and red knights respectively.
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>>1118118
I basically summed up everything in her backstory in that post (I wanted to give you as much wiggle room as possible since you can no doubt make a better character than I can) but It's all in the pastebin. Do you want me to give you a link to it? Actually, the link's on Brazil's pastebin too.
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>>1118110

It's a joke, Loriette's retainers and knights typically match her blue-and-gold paintjob, Tabitha Roosevelt's have red-and-black. Since you did save one of the Roosevelt knights on 16-Psyche I was going to initially have one of the Avalonian tourney pilots be that guy, but you both seem pretty dedicated to drills.
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>>1118131
The fact he keeps sliding back into being a douche seems to be indicative of his character
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>>1118136
Oh uh Hmm....Could prove for interesting story I think I'll go with it I suppose, friendly rivalry right?
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>>1118118
>>1118135
Backstory and character, I should say.
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>>1118136
That would work, especially if the one mech is red in the description. Can have them fight in the first round.
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To you guys spending all this time working on these characters and their backstories, you know that they will barely be featured in the quest beyond the Tourney right? I mean think about the characters we've already been introduced too. When was the last time we talked to Ducan, Athena, Judah, or Master Asia? And their's only going to be more important characters we'll be introduced to in the future.
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>>1118142
>sliding back

On the contrary, Jesus is always himself, both the good and bad parts of him. His beliefs, at least in his own mind, are completely logical and consistent, and he'll always act on them whether for good or ill.
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>>1118105
Oh thank god, the 0.5 Tons didn't change the cost of the thrusters. Dodged a bullet there.

I suppose I'll HAVE to use that version, since it's actually correct. I've updated the pastebin. Sorry about this Brazil.
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>>1118155
Well i only did what i did to make for more interesting story when the tourney happens i am perfectly fine with mag being in the background
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>>1118155
That's part of the reason why I just made my character comic relief.
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>>1118191
Same. Kathrine exists to be overworked and garner sympathy. The only time her background would be relevant is if Irina uses it as an excuse to bully her even more when Kathrine inevitably has to arrange her accommodations.
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>>1118155
Reason why I keep Maxwell pretty non descript for Wong. He's hashed out some good ideas that will be nice to see. Really, I only think I get autistic with the Dutchman or designing.. well, aside from that dam mission. That really was a bad moment all things considered.
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>>1118136
Wait... What about the Duke's Knights? What colors are they?
>>1118143
They could be friends even if their masters don't see eye to eye, it shouldn't be a problem in day to day situations as they are still fighting alongside each other... At this point one could even have saved the others life or whatever anime shenanigans Wong is okay with.
>>1118135
Wong, every backstory is in the pastebins on each mecha entry on the Challengers pastebin... but most of them are very short, with a just a few like Inari, Maxwell and like 3 more being longer than 2 lines.

The fanfiction here is mostly just "joking around" fluff, like all the "Akai and Victor are doing x and then y happened" are never even expected to be taken serious.
Excerpt that part about hijacking Mai Uaifu's Tank... That should be cannon because Tank-kouhai thought that their character was "too plain" or something... But you could disregard that as well if you want

>>1118155
I see it as a try to make the best of the limited screentime each challenger have, so even if Wong decides what gets in and what gets discarted it shouldn't be a problem to leave some ideas and suggestions for his use... But most things after the short descriptions and crude pillars of the backstory are just optional, with even Akai being resumed to "Storm Dragons colective imouto that was the daughter of the late first mate".


Also, I asked for Magnarus last name because the only other person who doesn't have a last name is Hunk, so it would be strange for him to not have one like everybody.
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>>1118223
Eh, that was before I had the idea of making her slightly autistic instead of just passionate. Just cut that off the description.
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>>1118223
What do you not understand is that this isn't the place to write fanfiction of your oc donut steel character. If you want to write fanfiction then make a pastebin or write it here, just stop posting it in the quest every day

https://www.fanfiction.net/
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I knew I'd be able to use this one day.
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“Three Black Stars is an operational name and you WILL use it.” You inform him directly. Sometimes you wish you'd never become an officer, it was a lot easier to be relaxed and fun before you became squad commander, let alone the local ranking SOUL member and the Colonel's right-hand man.

“Fine, the THREE BLACK STARS, a nickname that I will formally state is not remotely in keeping with the ideals and image of SOUL...although I can't write a formal complaint for, uh, girlfriend-related reasons...have engaged the enemy at the town of Dunwich.” Jesus continues.

You hear Asphodel's teeth grind at the implied nepotism.

“...They report that they've destroyed several bridges, but that the locals have built shallow, pebble fords that they use to get to get their cows across the water, and many of the so-called rivers aren't deep enough to slow down approaching Knights. They've taken out a combined total of forty-eight Knights by ambushing scouting convoys, and sent some truly disturbing images back of Ford's advance. Except...well, Lyanna Fleur thinks something is stalking them. She said Lara's Betta-MP was damaged, something attacked them that they couldn't identify.” He frowns, “I wish Lysa was here, she could always scold her sisters into behaving.”

“Well, she isn't here. Um, what are the Betta-MPs equipped with, again?” You scratch your head, wishing you'd been briefed on that.

Captain Asphodel brings up an image of one on his PC, “I've got your back. I had the Colonel send me data on all mecha under our command for this mission, to aid in devising a strategy.”

Jesus' eyes nearly bug out of their sockets, “You can't have that! It's classified SOUL intel, if you don't delete it as soon as the mission is over you'll be court-martialed!”

Lieutenant Rabban shakes his head, “I am sure the Captain will comply.

If looks could kill, Captain Asphodel would have wiped out Jesus' entire family and his girlfriend, “Lieutenant Wedge.” He says pointedly. “The Betta-MP is equipped with, by default, a standard UJCIDF beam saber, shield, battle rifle, or missile pods, similar to the Pumpkinseed II. Its cloaking systems are inferior to the original, according to the files. Lara's version uses an upgraded double-ended saber...a weapon I will think is stupid no matter how popular it gets...Lyanna's version uses the Gaunt Rifle first customized for your old mech, although hopefully without the, er, artwork. As for Lyra, apparently hers has an improved rocket launcher based on another SOUL design. Compared to the prototype, their weapons are more advanced, but an improved sensor suite like those second-generation SOUL mecha all possesses can track them if they move. They also show up on radar if they're flying too high to use cover. They're small for SOUL, Warmouth-sized, and use a unique frame originally built for...” He frowns as he reads through the file on his PC, “...a certain idol.”

[Continued]
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yes! i made it!
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>>1118257
So the enemy has either ASP capabilities or were using birds and the like to get visuals. Also, want to show Jesus the greenman footage just to see him freak out.
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>>1118278
anything to mentally scar him. if i cant get him crucified might as well settle for something
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>>1118286
I just want to scare him straight. His mentallity seems to be one of 'they don't know better, I know better because I am special.'. I want him to realize the main monster of this whole thing. Someone who thought they were too smart and too good for those below them and inflicted horrible things on innocent beings for his 'greater good'. Destroying their free will because he knew better. Our enemy isn't the natives. It's the manipulators who use them. Hell, he can come to use when we return the belongings of the two who died to their families.
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I wonder if we can finish our training with Master Asia before the Tourney starts? Having 10 in hand to hand would be really helpful if shit goes down which it will
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>>1118320
ha...
a ten? surly you jest it would be a 12 minimum
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>>1118320
Going Hokuto no Ken on Cabot?
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“What was the original like?” You ask, out of curiosity.

Asphodel flicks the holoscreen to the next image, and it pops up. It looks a bit more...old-fashioned. Small, black forearm shields edged in white, dark blue paint with white trim that somehow, with its plated skirt, reminds you incongruously of a maid's uniform, and a pair of pilebunkers. Its basic design isn't intimidating at all, pilebunkers aside. However, every surface has been shaped at great expense to baffle radar, its thrusters are minimalistic and petite and according to the text that scrolls by when you tap parts of the hologram it doesn't make much sound or even produce light when in flight. It may only be a prototype, but the main system, its true weapon, is terrifying.

“It's cute.” You remark. It's definitely one of the old generation one SOUL mecha, a bit outdated now, but still head and shoulders above most mecha in production and certainly all line mecha.

“You think so? I like it, although it's a bit of a waste setting it up for melee, I'd have given it a cannon. Or better yet, missiles, so that it's harder to trace its location.” Asphodel rubs his chin.

Captain Clearwater huffs, “You don't appreciate the refined elegance of melee. Real melee, none of this beam-weapon nonsense. The clash of metal on metal! The strength of pilot and mech pushed to its limit! Ah, for the good old days when a Bluegill with a mace could make every Harpy pilot in the belt cry with fear...” He sighs nostalgically.

“Melee weapons are a relic, they come into fashion again every so often when technology advances far enough, but range always wins out in the end. It's alright being behind the times, though, I'm sure you'll be long retired by the point when every machine fielded by SOUL has a firearm and doesn't expend weight on close-combat options.” Jesus smiles like a saint, “Anyway, the SOUL team is requesting either backup or retrieval. Lara's mech is damaged, but too valuable to leave behind.”

>[Give the order to help them]
>[Give the order to bring them home]
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>>1118329
>>[Give the order to bring them home]
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>>1118329
>>[Give the order to bring them home]
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>>1118329
Did we capture the resistance's mecha intact?
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>>1118329
>[Give the order to bring them home]
>[Give the order for Jesus to stop being a prick]
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>>1118329
>>[Give the order to bring them home]
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>>1118329
>>[Give the order to bring them home]

>>1118327
And plenty of others
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>>1118223
Yeah i am fine with mag being one of Roosevelts boys, her last knight right? I am cool with it, it will make for excellent story i will change some words around on the pastebin when i am not on my phone
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>>1118329

>[Give the order to help them]
Also to Jesus.
>Did you not lose to the Black Ogre despite the advantage of range?
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>>1118329
>>[Give the order to bring them home]
Oh Jesus, you are going to be in for such a treat. Still, bring them back. We need to fortify and use that footage. We can assume that they have ASP. We can look through the footage to figure out when they got hit, and talk to Hector and Elizabeth for more intel.
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>>1118329
wong i already hate jesus.
him bashing jesus some how made me despise him.
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>>1118340
pretty sure its against regs to give a soldier an impossible order. well, outside of bootcamp, at least
>>1118344
don't give him an excuse to keep talking.
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>>1118349
*melee
how did i fuck up so bad?!?!
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>>1118338

The insurgents really didn't have any significant mecha reserves. From the beginning, they fought with infantry tactics, and they never really had time to get worked up into a proper guerilla army. Besides, all of your pilots have mecha, a couple of old Terns and maybe a handful of Bluegills jacked from the Innsmouth local forces wouldn't be an attractive alternative.
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>>1118354
I was thinking of the bro knight's Cavalier mainly. A medium weight Mecha shouldn't go to waste.
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>>1118343

Argh now you both want to be her knight and she only has one.

Why. Why is this happening?
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>>1118358

These two are squires competing for the right to be her newest knight.

Whoever wins this competition earns that honour.
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>>1118361
They're a ranked crew. just dice for it or something.
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>>1118358
I blame BR for starting this Avalon love in the first place.
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>>1118358
I made a name mistake i didn't mean Roosevelt as in roarkes newest waifu i meant her rival
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>>1118358
Because they're idiots.
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3/10
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>>1118368

No dude. That's Countess Loriette Marie le Kennedy, she has a blue-and-gold Paladin with drill-based drones. Her archnemesis is Countess Tabitha Roosevelt, her relative who has a red-and-black Paladin that you haven't seen but it managed to snipe the Black Ogre's arm off.

Work out who works for Loriette and who works for Tabitha.
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“We'll bring them home. They fulfilled their orders, right?” You try to change the subject.

“Didn't you lose to the Black Ogre despite that overengineered gun of yours?” Asphodel remarks sourly.

Ensign Young gives him an understanding smile, “Ah, of course you weren't informed.” He doesn't even see Captain Clearwater standing up. “No, I never lost. I inflicted damage on him, but he managed to avoid capture. The next time we met, I...I...well...my mech suffered some damage, but he wasn't involved.” He looks nervous as he tries to work out how to spin his story. Too nervous to realize why Captain Asphodel is grinning.

Captain Clearwater indignantly grabs Jesus by the back of his belt and the scruff of his uniform, hauls him over to the edge of the dam, and throws him bodily into the lake, dusting off his gloves as the Ensign splashes into the water, “Appalling boy.” He sniffs, “A relic indeed." He shakes his fist angrily down at the Ensign.

You check just long enough to make sure that Jesus is treading water, tuning out his shrill cries of outrage. You hear him screaming about a court martial, but you're certainly not going to facilitate that. Besides, you have a bigger decision to make. If Lara's mech is damaged, she might not be able to cloak. An escort would be the right thing to send.

>[Go personally to bring them in]
>[Send Jesus]
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>>1118427
>[Go personally to bring them in]
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>>1118427
>[Go personally to bring them in]
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>>1118414
Well i thought templar was working for loriette so he would be a blue knight right? So i said i wont mind mag being a red knight in the tourney i thought by red knight you meant the lady who you got from 16 psyche who is a beard lover and she only had 1 surviving knight from that massacre the knuckle kaiser pulled off
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>>1118427
>[Go personally to bring them in]
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>>1118427
>[Go personally to bring them in]
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>>1118427
>[Go personally to bring them in]
We are probably the most durable of the lot. If something is chasing them, Amos and the others can smack them so they can escape.
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>>1118427
>>[Send Jesus]
This seems like just the situation to draw Amos away and keep him out of the fight at the dam and let Gerin reach the Greenman. Let Jesus handle this.
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>>1118427
damn it i love clearwater so much
who's he based on?
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>>1118438
dude just flip a coin already, it aint that important.
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>>1118427
>>[Go personally to bring them in]
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>>1118427
>>[Go personally to bring them in]
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>>1118447
Well i am saying i will be the opposite of the other guy there is no need for coin flipping
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>>1118427
>[Send Jesus]
He's good to cover their escape as a sniper. Let him do the job while Amos prepares for the fight at the dam.
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>>1118414
Victor works for Lori, Magnus works for Tabitha....
Victor working for Lori is the only option that would make sense with the challenger's ship going on, as he would have to be docked by quite sometime to it get to the point of getting a romance with a pirate.

...And Magnus would be that Guy who Roarke spared, wasn't it your original idea? The only question remaining would be how he got that mech... Maybe he could get special permission to enter the tourney? I don't know.
>>1118427
>[Send Jesus]

>>1118438
No, there was 17 or so surviving Knights.
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>>1118427
>[Send Jesus]
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>>1118444
Agree with Thunder, but don't send him alone, find at least more 2 A-Crew to go give him support or he will probably get wrecked.
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>>1118427
>>[Go personally to bring them in]
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>>1118427
>>[Send Jesus, and someone else that outranks him]
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>>1118427
>>[Go personally to bring them in]
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>>1118427
>[Go personally to bring them in]
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>>1118444
>>1118427
Hmmm.. can we get a measure of how far they are? If it's not far at all, we can likely rush back if it's a two prong strike. While Paladins may be fast, Soul C does consist of 3 members, not 1. If it is rather far, send Jesus rather than what I said here>>1118443
I'm more concerned that the jungle will make him useless.
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>>1118483
Quest is what is the worst outcome losing the Fleur sisters or Gerrin get the Bioarmor
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By the way, we're going to end early tonight. For some reason, I'm crashing in energy, and getting to this point took longer than I thought. Game resumes in an hour so I can eat, then we'll have a wrap-up post, and a quick look at what's going on with Roarke. Tomorrow resumes with Amos retrieving the girls.

>>1118483

With a Manta, about six hours since they'll make their way north to meet you. Getting back will take longer, but you'll still drastically outpace Ford's army of Knights and infantry. Enough that even if the S-Delphinius is badly damaged, it can be repaired in time so long as it limps home.
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>>1118491

Do we have any artillery or aerospace assets we can bring to bear to shoot at them as they march
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>>1118491
Thunder's paranoia strikes again.
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>>1118487
Tricky thing. Their data is important since there is a stealth mech chasing them somehow. If that thing is following them, it can open a path for the Gerin. It's why I am checking the distance. If we can meet them half way, then even if Gerin is booking it, we would have time.
>>1118491
Then I stay my original course. Rather deal with the stealth foe first before a chaotic battle.
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>>1118491
how much longer until we get to be rourke?
i want space pirate kingdom building god dammit!
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>>1118494

You have mech-tier missiles mounted in racks on top of the dam,
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>>1118427
I don't even care if you are Bane, Clearwater. You're based in my books.
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>>1118496
Rather be paranoid than be dismissive
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>>1118549
Paranoia is fine, but it's important to assess the situation. There was one Chevalier we have not seen. A wasp like one who is melee based. If that thing is the stealth one, Jesus would fail. We would lose a sniper and 3 stealth machines plus any intel they have. Meanwhile, if the Gerin pushes, it must face a sniper, a melee specialist and a armored president son along with an entire army on it's own. It could very well make it, but as we have proven, a lot of dice means a lot of chances of getting hits in and landing that one blow. Disabling their stealth while enabling ours means we can take out their key targets or even aim for their ship. I understand the risks, but at the same time I do not think the Gerin would solo it.
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>>1118568
I didn't know we could be back in time
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>>1118517
Hey, Wong, I've got to ask since it will significantly effect my mech, but do we have to factor in the weight for projectile weapon spare reloads?
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>>1118573
Wong wasn't a fan of it last time I was here, but you should assume that it counts, just to be safe. easier to add than subtract.
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Also, Brazil/Brazillia/ BR/ whatever you call yourself this month, the competition pastebin is using an out of date stat sheet for the Loggerhead. the updated one can be found here: http://pastebin.com/kT2KKpZu

I can fix it myself, if you don't have the time.
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>>1118641
>Tea over Coffee
You're right, but which kind of Tea?
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>>1118641
You must be the guy I copied my sensors from. They should have 2 K of structure and thus 1 Ton of weight (since Wong uses the ones from the Corebook) and have 7 km range, not 700. You forgot to list the kills of the backup sensors. That's minor since you listed the weight though. Also, cockpits with Environment Pods take up 2 spaces, not 1.

Brazil can check the math. Doing it for my own mechs is bad enough.
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“I'll handle this personally, if that's alright.” You tell the two Captains.

“They're your subordinates, aren't they?” Captain Clearwater smiles understandingly, and claps you on the back, “Come home safe. We're counting on you against the Gerin.”

“I'll do my best.” You promise, a little embarrassed.

“Don't worry, we won't need to rely on another miracle. We'll drown the bastards and bury the Gerin in a plasma coffin.” Captain Asphodel grins.

“Ah, about that. My people have been preparing something that we think will be of advantage to us.” Lieutenant Rabban coughs, “Sir Lieutenant Wedge, reports indicate that the Gerin possesses some kind of powerful defensive measure. If you can deactivate it, there is a weapon our technicians have been working on. My uncle, the Captain of our vessel, has labeled it the 'Sunfire bomb', but I prefer the common soldier's nickname for it.”

“What's that?” You inquire.

He smiles. It's not a nice smile, “They call it 'the war crime in a box.' I hope to see it used. Inshallah we will repay the suffering of Qu'lir's people and the losses of our own brave mujahideen to the devil-witch Carnegie a thousandfold, and burn the Gerin with the wrath of Allah himself.”

You exhale heavily, "Whew. Let Irina take a look at it while I'm gone, so long as it's used safely...any weapon is a good one."

Lieutenant Rabban frowns, "Hopefully it will kill off the beast in the pit, as well. It has somehow formed a shield of dense fungal matter, harder than any armor, around itself, and it grows back as quickly as we can burn through it. I would suggest extreme measures, but we need the dam intact for now, right?"

You hesitate, "Right. Yes." Although it makes you uneasy. You want the Green Man dead, and you want it buried.

[Meanwhile, back in the Solar System..]
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>>1118691
BOO YEAH. BACK TO SPACE NOT!CARRIBEAN!!
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You are, briefly, Roarke Susan Starwind, Admiral of the Iron Kestrels, and as you hoist high the head of the mech of one of the Captain of one of the few remaining pirate bands that opposed you, your soldiers let out a resounding cheer. The Knuckle Kaiser drops the huge lump of metal to the mechbay floor with an even louder crash, and with a grin, you prepare to disembark.

The number of independent pirate crews and fleets is shrinking by the day, and already, you've had some strange results. A number of small-time independent companies have contacted you, with various amounts of clandestine behavior, wanting the publicity of their technology showing up in your army, and to most of them you've given approval. The Iron Kestrels are being reforged into steel, and they need an edge that can cut through UJCIDF forces and Avalon alike. As for pirates, many have joined you, but some have coagulated into other groups. Seven Nation Army, an alliance of seven small pirate crews, was only a budding threat, but you put it down hard. Only one of their Captains was good enough to present a serious threat, and it's his Morgan II you decapitated with the Knuckle Kaiser after shredding the mecha of the others. Even though their ships are small, it's hard giving them up, and the only reason you agreed to let Rosita have them is because she's using their remains to construct the arena. Some of them were more like gangs of thieves, with only a transport ship to their name, anyway. Quantity over quality seems to have been their motto. The leaders of Seven Nation Army are in your brig now, although they're diehard against you, as could be expected of pirates that refuse the union of the Iron Kestrels at this stage in your ascent.

The real worry, in your mind, is the so-called 'Five-Man Band', whose name you suspect the Seven were ripping off. Five notorious deep-belt brigands, and unlike the Seven, each is an experienced Captain with many battles under his or her belt. You're not familiar with all of them, their group assembled after you became Captain of the Iron Kestrels, but some of them have names you've been familiar with for your whole career. 'Pale Slayer' Meridian. 'Psychopomp' Farij, 'Hammerhead' Marx, 'The Gentleman', and worst of all, their leader...the man known simply as 'King'. Despite none of them individually having as much power as the Green Skulls during Galbadie's day, none of them was among his victims, and none of them have bowed to you either.

[Continued]
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>>1118691
>'the war crime in a box.'
You cannot believe the shit eating grin I have right now if thats the bomb I think it is.
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>>1118714
>We're going to hunt down famous pirates and either recruit them or kill them
My favorite trope
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>>1118717

Do be so kind as to remind me which thread it was in so I can be sure my recollection of its stats is utterly without error.
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>>1118745
Ah shit time to become Gato
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>>1118730
>yfw they tell Roarke about a legendary treasure that no one has managed to find they are searching for

Would it be an old prototype mech or actual wealth, I wonder?

I'd laugh if some random pirate came around shouting about treasure.
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>>1118717
Anon, enlighten us pls.
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>>1118751
I really hope we run into the most stereotypical pirate who just makes shit up about buried treasure and space monsters
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>>1118759
And then his lies were actually truth and we uncovered an old Greenman armory pre-Sidereal War.
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>>1118759
>Garr it was the size of California Station it was. With big mean eyes filled with hate. And it breathed fire!

>Fire? In a vacuum?

>Yarrrr..
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>>1118759
>"AARRRR THERE BE UNTOLD TREASURE MARKED BY THE X. YOU NEEDS TO FOLLER THE MAP TO FIND IT. BUT BEWARE, THA MIGHTY SPACE-KRAKEN BE ITS PROTECTOR."
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It only took your primary battleship, and three lesser cruisers to handle Seven Nation Army. You lured them into a trap using the Harmonium, then dropped the Cleander, Yamato, and Rhinehawk out of warp on them from behind to bury them in missiles and beam fire. You're far away from any inhabited colonies, and somehow, it feels darker out here, more ominous, your ship floating in a maze of splintery lumps of rock work down by constant impact against each other.

It doesn't help that some of your wives are on Auditorium right now, making preparations for the wedding. Damn it, there was a time when you wouldn't have immediately needed that kind of company after a mission, but nearly dying and coming back to become arguably the strongest pirate fleet in the belt you have stresses you didn't have before. Also, these girls do things to a man. Frustrating things, but wonderful things too.

“Any damage, husboss?” Karen hugs you when you land. With your other girls so busy, it's nice to have at least one to welcome you home.

You give her a kiss and a pat on her ample backside, “Not even a scratch.” It's true, now with four drones, the Knuckle Kaiser has become truly unstoppable. You're a little jealous that the Flowerhorn has advanced faster than the Knuckle Kaiser, but its drones are more simple, and probably more fragile. The real problem isn't engineering, it's the pilot. Learning how to split your focus and plan around multiple small AI-driven drones is harder than it sounds.

>[Walk with Karen]
>[Carry her off, that's what you do with nerds!]
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>>1118770
>[Carry her off, that's what you do with nerds!]
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>>1118745
>>1118753
Well, if it's the one I made, it's a pretty simple Design. Missile: 20 kills, WA -2, Range 0, Blast 20, Fuse, AP, Incendiary 1 shot. 52.8 CP 1 ton.
You drop it, you pull the trigger, and everything in the zone gets to eat burning, sticky napalm that eats through armor. Because it's a blast, no dodge can beat it and if the shields are done.. well, a few of these would slowly burn away the gerin's armor.
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>>1118770
>[Carry her off, that's what you do with nerds!]
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>>1118765
>25 footer, thirty tons of him

>>1118770
>[Carry her off, that's what you do with nerds!]
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>>1118770
>[Carry her off, that's what you do with nerds!]
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>>1118770
>[Carry her off, that's what you do with nerds!]
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>>1118770
>>[Carry her off, that's what you do with nerds!]
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>>1118785
>So, eleven hundred mecha went into the void, three hundred sixteen mecha come out, the Greenmen took the rest.
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>>1118770
I'm back at a keyboard and I've updated the bin, Mag is officially one of Dame Grey's boys and has thanked the Lady for being spared by Roarke after that frightening massacre on 16-Psyche.
http://pastebin.com/cfgEhQrX

Also
>[Carry her off, that's what you do with nerds!]
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>>1118783
Best part? 4 Random rolls on the location chart. That means that it could stack on one spot or hit a special location. Like the eyes, or the cockpit, or constant hits to the reactor core. Bluegills would melt. Knights would have a bad time. Infantry would be burning goop. It's a FUN weapon.
>>1118770
>>[Carry her off, that's what you do with nerds!]
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>>1118683
thanks
reposting: http://pastebin.com/1W1gi2v5
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>>1118837
No problem.
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>Y'all know me. Know how I earn a livin'. I'll catch this plant for you, but it ain't gonna be easy. Bad plant. Not like going down the pond chasin' bluegills and tommycods. This Greenman, swallow you whole. Little shakin', little tenderizin', an' down you go. And we gotta do it quick, that'll bring back your populations, put all your businesses on a payin' basis. But it's not gonna be pleasant. I value my neck a lot more than three thousand space bucks, chief. I'll find him for three, but I'll catch him, and kill him, for ten. But you've gotta make up your minds. If you want to stay alive, then ante up. If you want to play it cheap, be on welfare the whole winter. I don't want no volunteers, I don't want no mechs, there's just too many aces in this system. $10,000 for me by myself. For that you get the head, the armor, the whole damn thing.
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And properly cropped as it should be
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You scoop her up in a bridal carry, and she squeals with laughter, legs kicking and hands grabbing at your shoulders for support as you cover her face with kisses. “Roarke! You can't bully me anymore, we're getting married!”

“OH HOW WRONG YOU ARE!” You cackle, “Marriage means I get to bully you even more!” You nibble her ear, and she shrieks happily, squirming around just so that you'll wrassle her. You pretend not to notice how intentionally she presses her chest forward to show off her breasts, she's not exactly the most subtle woman in the world, or the most eloquent.

“Unhand me, you monster!” She chides you, and you let her go, watching her float in midair. She pouts as you gather up her braids in your hand and use them as tow cables, “No, wait, I mean...rehand me! Rehand me at once!” She sighs with satisfaction as you take her back into your arms, nestling against you, “This is perfect. You and me. Together, alone.” She's at least tactful enough not to mention that Red Siren is on Auditorium and can't interfere with her schemes to seduce you.

“I don't know about alone.” You mention. There are people passing by you in the hallway, but it's easy to tell the old hands from the newcomers. The newcomers stare and grin a little, the original Iron Kestrels are all much too used to it and have probably been rooting for Karen to snag your heart for years. Which she has.

“So...have you finished with Biggs' logs yet?” Karen makes a face, “You promised I could review all of them when you're done.

You make a face too. Firstly, because the last time you looked through his logs, an assassin burst into your room, an experience that still gives you a fright even today. Not for yourself, facing down death isn't so bad, when it happens the adrenaline kicks in and the part of your mind that irrationally recoils from the void goes far, far away, but because Karen was in bed right next to you. Secondly, you dislike the man in those logs more and more. Like you, he has a surprising way with women, and an unsurprising dislike for Hermione Fairchild. He talks to you, or rather his diary, in a friendly way, as if you know each other, as if you're confidantes...but his personality makes you want to put your fist through his glasses. You're a professional criminal. You've killed people with your own two hands. You can't even imagine talking about children as if they were livestock, or abandoning your firstborn son, or impregnating a girl and sending her away and treating her death as a mild inconvenience. You also can't imagine violating whatever taboo you suspect this Project Neverland, which Samantha is investigating, violates. You get out your PC, and bring up the files, "I have one left, it looks as if he stopped communicating as much after he got involved with those kids."

Karen kisses your cheek and opens the door to her room without leaving your arms, "Watch it, then come to bed."

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>Iok is still a dumbass in this quest
>but this time he was 100% right
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>>1118770
Simple I got a solution for it, preset directives that take the strain off Roarke.

Like you know, directive 1) Non-lethal
2) Support and Smash Secondaries
3) Block/Distract
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>>1118881
well, he was wrong about the allies with Avalon part.
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>>1118890
Depends on who you talk to around here. A certain southern degenerate might say otherwise.
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>>1118714
The Five Man Band remind of that weird arc in WWE with those guys gyrating around in their little spandex briefs claiming to be a Five Man Band. Would be really funny if these guys wore nothing but masks that reflect their nickname and battle harnesses and spandex briefs to battle.

Definately 10/10 would crap myself in fear once they appear on the screen.
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>>1118899
I hope King turns out to just be King
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>>1118899
The king just wears a crown and the smallest banana hammock possible
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>>1118913
>implying we could ever beat king
Why would you wish that on us? Hes the strongest man on earth!
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>>1118924
So then we can become the strongest man on earth. We might just be cool enough to stand up to the King's Engine.
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>We might just be cool enough to stand up to the King's Engine.
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Someone photoshop the shit out of this image to match Wong's 5 man band thanks
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>>1118892
Brazil Is Not to be trusted fully on anything Especially Avalon/greenmen/Women/his name/ Mech design is the only exception, That should really be in the Opening post of the thread, Thunder is similar but instead of being unable to trust him regarding Avalon you cannot fully trust him regarding violence, as he tends to support the most Lethal, thus often least profitable option. and he also favours the UJCIDF,
And there is another that showed up recently i forget the fuckers name But He (there are no women on the internet) who blatantly wants to go full Innaasteroroidbelt, Trusts neither Avalon Or Jove and keeps advocating plans to build a colony just to drop it on earth, Fuck what even is the space version of Innawoods?
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>>1118955
Innavoid?
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Gerard Biggs isn't as disheveled as he was before. In fact, he looks clean, well-groomed, and satisfied with himself.

“Hello friend.” He says to you, “It has been a while, hasn't it?” He smiles, “There isn't much need for you anymore, I'm afraid. Things are going very well for me. So well, I hardly need someone to talk to. My children have grown magnificently. Of course, there have been setbacks. Some have died from the mental strain, some have been rendered useless with punishment and I have had to euthanize them. The number of drones they can control at once is staggering, but it isn't enough. We need results a magnitude greater, to push them into maturity, to exercise their minds to the utmost. If only I had access to the original site of Project Neverland, but unfortunately, I lack the means to set foot on Terra itself. The idea that these children were grown in a vat fascinates me, such things were outlawed after the War, and the technology itself was monopolized by the Green Men before that and systematically erased from man's knowledge by their machinations, I should very much like to see how it works. Although the prototype was, I am informed, born naturally. Initially, Project Neverland sought to enhance humanity in the form of a serum or treatment, and was applied to a pregnant woman working for a scientist involved with the project. The results, including the distinct physical trait and certain mental features stemming from the project head's insistence on using her own DNA, supposedly expressed perfectly and could be easily observed during her formative years...but as a pilot, she is merely 'very talented', not 'superhuman', and that is not enough. In a stroke of counterproductive irony, her unusual physical trait caused her biological father to believe erroneously that his wife was an adulteress. The friction this caused led to him spiraling into alcoholism and eventually abandoning the family completely, causing Subject Zero to exhibit certain instabilities. Narcissism, I am told, features prominently. This also ruined the mental health of her mother and younger biological sibling, although human beings are resilient creatures, and perhaps they will recover. Or not. Alas, no discovery was ever made without some sacrifice. Nonetheless, I have made inquiries and believe that Bahamutcorp can make use of her and her talents. Even if the venture involving her doesn't pan out, her data should be quite useful in the long run. If she should unravel, there is always the option of assassination. Apparently the children I was given do not have her weaknesses, the L-Strain is perfect in every regard These girls are true supersoldiers.”

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>>1118955
Innaasteroid?
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>>1118958
Goddamnit fairchild..
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>>1118955
Not exactly pro UJCIDF, just super pro human and anti xeno. I really only side with them out of hating Greenmen soooooo much. After the War I'm solid belt though. And as far as violence, ya people should take my words with a grain of salt.
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>>1118958
Called it. Lysa and Co. are Project: Neverland subjects.
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>>1118958
...wait, a certain hair color. Lysa looks similar to Rosetta. Irina called Rosetta her step-sister. Well.. this is horrifying.
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>>1118973
Nah Fairy was the test child and they used her DNA in making the children
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>>1118975
Yeah, but from the pictures of her childhood, Fairchild was a only child in them. No little sister. Rosetta seems to be the only case of having a little sister.
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I'm Jestalovin Not-Kabakali Knuckle Kaiser hentai kamen anon.

Max Mech Love, Max Hentai Lulz.
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>>1118979
Yes, but it said it was a project head's DNA and Rosita definitely wasn't involved in this
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>>1118979
Isnt rosetta a lot younger than fairchild? She probably wasnt even alive when fairchild was a kid.
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Who's this Rosetta you're talking about?
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>>1118991
I presume red siren. I can never remember how to spell names so I just copy other people.
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>>1118991
Red Siren. Apologies, I think I got the real name wrong.
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>>1118999
It's Rosita. Rosita Kim.
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>>1118991
Her non union Mexican equivalent
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>>1118995

It's spelled Rosita. Rosita Kim.
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>>1119006
I occasionally forget how to spell my own name so prepare for wrong spelling.
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>>1118985
>>1118987
Well, my assumption is that there has been a bit of a time leap and massive gap between these. The earliest ones involved Fairchild when she was young, then talks of neverland after a while. Basically, the time line is like this in my mind.
Fairchild is born>>Child Zero is born>>>Never land starts in earnest.
Child Zero could very well use Fairchild's DNA, but by being born naturally genetics would likely make things different. So no pink hair, but something else. She is a skilled pilot, but she is also a narcissist superb. Fairchild, not so much. She has some signs of it, but not to the level of Red Siren. The messing with the mother and younger sister would also explain Irina's backstory.
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>>1119024
But that would mean they only finished this recording after red siren got stabbed in the eye and became a pirate. Thats like at least a 20 year time skip dude.

Also someone remind me if all the Fleur sisters names begin with L.
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>>1119048
Yup they all do
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From what I've been getting from these records is starting to feel like it's implicating heavily something about Fairchild, I mean have we heard anything aside her 'nieces' of any siblings of hers? Mind you I only know what Wong has written for the quest not the side fluff that wasn't part of the quest itself.
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>>1119048
>But that would mean they only finished this recording after red siren got stabbed in the eye and became a pirate. Thats like at least a 20 year time skip dude.

Without commenting on any speculation, why is it necessary for this recording to happen after Red Siren became a pirate?
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>>1119063
The sisters are all the daughter's of Fairy's little sister. She might not be alive anymore, but thats the story they're feeding people.
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>>1119065
Isnt that what kicked off her and her sister being really mad at each other?
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>>1119048
The gap doesn't make sense if it's Fairchild though. She was born during or maybe a bit before the war. This entire thing happened AFTER the war, when the tech was free, but considered forbidden. Red could have been born a few years after, and the recording could happen just as she made her idol debut. Remember, she did take part in a paint ball fight which could have been fairly young.
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>>1119072

It certainly exacerbated it, but there were many other factors, enough for Irina to fixate on a different group of events each time Rosita has come up.
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You guys seem to forget that a relatively simple (taking setting's rather high science level) genetic tweak would make modified humans like Fairy and her 'nieces' look younger longer.
That would throw all the age calcuations out of the window. Fairy being a 60 something semi-immortal witch pretending to be a hot 30 something Marshal because she looks half her age due to genetic tweaking.
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WONG use this! Kamen Rider Blade/Gundam Exia mashup.

Is Seckz.
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>>1119073
Yeah but fairchild was a kid in the last one and now she is old enough to be roarkes mom and I always assumed red siren and roarke were roughly the same age so in the time between this one and the last one red siren would have grown up to a point where she is old enough for her sister (who seems to be fairly close to her in terms of age) to be scouted for a major engineering company.
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>>1119084
The biggest connection to all this is Simon himself. First few happened just when his mom was pregnant. So the time table is 16 years ago. So Rosetta, who is older than roarke(27 years old) would likely just be a teen and starting to show off.
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>>1119084

Except that he has a definite day of birth, was definitely too young to fight in the War because she's expressed bitterness about not having had the chance to earn glory or get close enough to Christina LeChance to "save" her from ending up with Alexander Starwind, etc. Fairchild is, barring some weird "my own descendant" vampire-style fuckery, in the same age group as Alexander Starwind and Josiah McAllister.

>>1119086

That would be a dick move.

>>1119094
>Seckz

Not going to lie, I cringed a little.
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>>1119107

She wasn't a kid, but she was young. For reference, you know that those first recordings were around sixteen years ago because Simon was born at the start of that period.
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Oops, haha sorry last night was vtm night

That bad huh :(
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>>1119125
Your speech makes me want to punch you through the internet.
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>>1119125

Typing like that practically violates 4chan's rules against illegibility.
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“As it stands, Subject 33 is the most likely to eventually pilot the Megabass. She naturally assumes a leadership role among the other girls, has a knack for compassion and reading those around her, and is utterly charismatic. Even the staff love her, and I must confess...only to you, my friend...that I interfered twice with the results of a random draw to keep her away from tests I thought were likely to result in the demise of the subject. I do not need to justify this, but if pressed, I certainly could. It is only thanks to her efforts that Subject 48 is still viable. After she went berserk following a testing session in which she was pitted against Subject 49 intended to test the effects of a kill-or-be-killed situation in which their lives were really on the line, I feared that Subject 48 would have to be terminated and join Subject 49 in the incinerators. Oh, how wrong I was. Subject 33 has made a point of befriending her and certain others among the group. Already, 48's performance has returned to optimal levels, which pleases me. She'll be quite charming someday, and charm is useful for someone like her. 33's command of the drones and application of strategy, however, remains the best. I feel wholly confident that, following a few more tests, I can announce to the board that the Megabass finally has a pilot. This is it, my friend, my road to the top begins here. Tomorrow, I plan to...” Gerard abruptly covers his PC as the door slams open.

“Sir!” There's a technician with a cut on his forehead, blood droplets staining his white coat, “It's a riot! All of the subject have escaped their containment cells. They've taken the test frame and made the weapons operational somehow, they've already disabled the station's main cannon. If they get to a ship, sir, we won't be able to stop them.”

“Damn it all.” You've never heard so much bitterness in those three words. It's the voice of a man who believes he's being wronged by an unjust universe, “Get out, we need to get to the ships, I want them ready to go NOW.”

Another technician runs into view, “Sir, we have to go now! There's no time, the test frame just breached Colony 2's superstructure. It's coming here!”

Gerard Biggs stands up, walks over to the closet, and opens it, “Get to the ships, gentlemen, evacuating must be our priority. The knowledge we have gathered is too valuable to lose.” You hear muffled gunfire in the distance, and Gerard Biggs smiles sadly, “Farewell, my friend. Sleep tight until I see you again.”

With that, his logs end.

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>>1119158
Got a feeling 48 is Lysa. Charming, but went berserk. 33 makes me worry since she is likely the most dangerous person to deal with.
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>>1119158
If all these girls were the ones intended to pilot the megabass but we know coop is the one piloting it now does that mean coop just swanned in after all this clandestine unethical super science and just made it work ?
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>>1119204
Seems like it. Gods damned, why do I have this feeling Dr.Biggs is the one who sold the Avalonians the weaponry for stuff just to make MORE bullshit and having Simon serve as a sort of test pilot for cheap Paladins?
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You turn off your PC, and stand there in silence for a moment. The gears slowly turn in your brain.

“Roarke?” Karen calls out, “Are you done?” She's waiting in bed for you. Her underwear might not be very sexy, in general, but it looks fantastic on her, “I'll watch it later, come here and warm me up.” Her smile lights up her whole face, the edges of her eyes crinkling with honest happiness to have you back after yet another battle.

“Ah, don't bother with it. The last one had nothing technical, it's just a bunch of drama.” You tell her, and apparently you sound convincing, because she holds her arms out to you insistently, waiting for you to come join her.

“Didn't you tell Samantha you wanted to look into this...Project Neverland thing? It could be useful drama, we should go through it and analyze it too.” She puffs her cheeks out, wiggling her fingers at you until you come over and sit beside her, running a hand through her hair and letting it out of its braids.”

“I'm sure she could get something from it.” You say, very neutrally, “Actually, maybe Duncan as well, if he can spare the time from working with your grandpa. Project Skywalker was a Terran-backed project, right? He might know something.”

“That's great!” She says enthusiastically, “Oh, maybe some of Red Siren's people too. I know, it's a pretty shocking suggestion, right? Still, we're going to be sisters, and the Kestrels need all the hands we can get. I can at least try to work with her, not against her.”

Any other time, you'd be so proud of her, “Not them. Let's keep this close to us, for now.” You kiss her to hush her up. Even what you just heard can't dim your enthusiasm for what comes next.
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Game resumes at the usual time. No brakes on the Final Qu'lir Arc train (except there probably will be a break a few days in so I don't die)
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>>1119260
Aye, make sure to get plenty of rest. Gotta solve a lot of mysteries.
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>>1119158

WAIT

> Subject 33 is compassionate, charismatic, and a natural leader, turning even violent bezerkers into close friends and allies, as well as a brilliant pilot.

this reminds me of someone.

>Subject 48 is capable, but prone to extreme berzerk range. Only because 33 befreinded her did she remain stable,

We do know another capable pilot and strategist, who is rather prone to extreme bouts of violence and bloodshed, and whose main emotional anchor is an old friend from her childhood, another female pilot.

Wong, what was the hair colour of Roarke's mother?
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>>1119337
Won't work. This was after roarke was born. Whomever 33 was it was not Roarke's mom. Part of me wonders if it's Cabot. She does have drone control.
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>>1119342

Are we sure about that? i'm getting the feeling Wong is keeping the timetable of this intentionally vague. I mean, we have been assuming that Fairchilde was the prototype, maybe she was just an early batch.

On the other hand, 48 sounds like near the end of the batch, and at least this facility never made any many more. Then again, they could have tried again somewhere else. Considering that Roarke and his brother were most likely born a few years after the war, and they are quite a bit older then the Fleurs, it's perfectly possible they are a new batch.

What i'm saying is, i'm spitballing here because i don't have any concrete numbers to base anything of off.
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>>1119352
First off, considering Fairchild was already an officer during the first ones which happened 16 years ago(because this was before Simon was born), 33 cannot be our mom. Second, with the family and clues given Red Siren is the most likely because when going to Fairchild's place, there is no hide or hair of any info on a younger sister.
The Neverland experiment happened after the war due to the greenman having all the knowledge before it, so it cannot be Fairchild since she was of the age of Orange Pekoe, which has blue gill joe. Red Siren is older than us. If born right after the war, she would match up for when she made her battle idol debut.
It's bloody late here, so my phrasing is a jumbled mess, but even with multiple batches, Fairchild is too old to even be a part of neverland to begin with. Prototype or otherwise.
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>>1119383

Don't worry, your phrasing is fine and you make some good points. You're probably right on that one.
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>>1118641
>Also, Brazil/Brazillia/ BR/ whatever you call yourself this month
Had to change name to not trigger Thunder... You know, the usual drama.
>>1118892
No, he was still wrong, and we were not allied with Avalon a that moment.

>>1118955
>Brazil Is Not to be trusted fully on anything
Hm... Its true that I go a bit crazy here almost every thread... But I don't do anything really serious here when I'm being serious and in the end I'm obviously allied more with the kestrels than with Avalon or anyone, with my perspective coming from a idea of being truly neutral... And as were already up or neck in jovian bullshit, shilling for Avalon seems like what needs to be done to restore balance into the belt.

>Avalon
Cool in certain points, but not perfect, the two big problems are the Lady and possible the current state of the monarchy... We shouldn't ally with them against jove in anytime soon, but negotiating with nobles to get economical advantage and treating their citizens as we would with any other could be done in the name of neutrality and keeping others fearing that if they push us to the edge we maybe would ally with them... But never get involved with the Lady or maybe even with the Queen directly, these two can't be trusted really trusted.

>Greenman.
I see them like people. in the same way commies are people. that doesn't mean that I will overlook the crap they do and did, but I don't see we blitzkrieging Avalon anytime soon as they aren't really attacking us or giving us motive to follow then to the ends of the universe on revenge or something... My approach is more that "She isn't our problem" and that we should let the SSL deal with it and profit on the edges of the conflict, but at same time we shouldn't get involved with her, as she is dirty with lies and secrets.

>Women
????
You mean waifus? I like Fatima and Lori, but I don't get in the way of the other getting some love...Kinda worried about the Sam's baby thing even more now though, as it was just revealed that to do so we would need greenman technology.

>My name
This is probably the last one, I don't plan of changing it... But I will tripfag during the Tourney as "Akai Inazuma" but that should be temporary.

>In the belt guy
I kinda agree with him on the idea of not truly siding with nobody, but I want to keep economic and political relations with anyone of have something to offer to us for a reasonable price if it interest us... Maybe becoming a fiscal paradise and playing Swiss on them? I should study it more before saying that for sure.

>>1118971
Wait... what does "Xeno" exactly means to you? Does the Catpeople count as Xenos?

>>1119352
All the subject are female, so don't count Roarke in.

>>1119383
We didn't see her mom either, maybe Fairchild really does have a sister, and the subject description seems to fit her... Also, I don't think that there are multiple batches, I think that every pink haired girl that we saw are on their twenty-somethings and just look younger.
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>>1119430
To be fair I blame myself for getting caught up in the whirlwind considering I just caught up on the quest and I got offered a pre-made mech I took it and ran with it

And personally I think I came off as a fucking moron to wong which is like equal to pissing on the presidents shoes in front of everyone

But I hope we got the mixup with the Red Knight/Blue Knight thing fixed.
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>>1119246
Dude fairchild must fucking hate him.
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>>1119552
I can't wait to see him in this quest
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>>1119569
I dont know, seeing him probably means we are about to get our shit wrecked..
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>>1119576
Seems like he would be a good drinking buddy
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>>1119576
>>1119246
Also he could have one of those girls with him as a copilot, like Kiva
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>>1119614
>kiva
>flying megas
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>>1119802
I said copilot, as in she sits in the back seat like in the show
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>>1119812
Thats more backseat driving than co piloting.
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>>1119818
That means the same thing to me
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>>1119825
That would mean Jamie is also a co pilot.
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>Rogue Jovian Mecha wrecks town
>Massive earthquake
>Fucking Greenman screwing around and causing massive ecological damage.
>Jovians dumping herbicides everywhere causing even more ecological damage
>Paladin conducting a scorched earth advance
>war crime in a box
Well, Qu'lir is going to have quite the refugee problem. I suppose its a good thing that Roarke has a pair of colonies that could use inhabitants anyway.
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>>1119847
They have an whole planet full of other places to move to right here.
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>>1119857
That's true but the belt is neutral in this war. Neutral for now anyway
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>>1119847
>refugee problem
Not falling for that line again
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>>1119878
Its also a hub of piracy. Not exactly where you want to settle down and start a family for most people.
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>>1120101
Second.
Hey Thunder, does catpeople count as "Xenos" in your book?

>>1119878
It seems now that you and Solaire will have a duel in the name of your masters... How do you feel about that?
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>>1120145
They aren't humans
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>>1120145
so long as it is done in good humor and done honorably it's fine. there's nothing wrong with friendly competition.
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>>1120148
but they can have children with humans, can't they?
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>>1120148
Cat people are just people with cat shit tacked on.
Filthy greenmen scum are probably more closely related to bananas than humans and thus are not people.
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>>1120145
So... Does that means that the Nekos and those hordes of biomoded people on Luna should be nuked?
To you, are they another Greenman uprising waiting to happen? a timebomb?
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>>1120166
No but if they do uprise then kill all of them
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>>1120166
Oops, should have linked to >>1120148 instead.
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>>1120173
"All of them" you mean the ones involved? Or the entire race just to be sure?
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>>1120178
depends how big of a revolt it is I guess. If over a majority of the entire planet then have to wipe them all out.
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>>1119342
I might see it if she wasn't a hatesink.
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>>1120158
They can, I don't know the result though, but they probably end being just regular humans... Until some unlucky descendant 4 generations down is born as a Neko because both parents had inactive Neko genes or something.

>>1120191
So, what is your approach for while we can't prove that they should be nuked? Outbreed them? "Do not racemix"? Leave them alone to be colonized by Avalonians? Try to herd the cats? Create welfare gibs that indirect castrate them?
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>>1118958
I have realized this means Lysa is kinda literally a clone of Red Siren.

...Wong, you absolute madman. Caesar totally unintentionally called it.
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>>1120239
>including the distinct physical trait and certain mental features stemming from the project head's insistence on using her own DNA
How could Rosita be the project head though? It has to be someone else.
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>>1120245
Fairchild maybe? She has the pink hair.
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>>1120245
Lysa is definitely a clone and Rosita was her prototype at the very least even if she's not the genetic source.
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>>1120265
I don't think Fairchild either. It seems too soon to the end of the war for her to have gotten to the position where she would be made head. I got a feeling its either her sister we've heard about or one of her parents. It might explain why she was taken in as a test pilot for the bits.
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>>1120266
The way I see it is they only created the Fleur sisters after they had observed Rosita's development for a few years, hence the age difference. I think it still counts.
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>>1120265
Sounds like Fairechild (or Fairechild's mother) as project head used a retrovirus to geneticaly alter Rosita (the prototype) invitro. Rosita's pink hair makes her and Irina's father believe that her mother committed adultery.

Lysa and co are individual vat grown modifications of Rosita's genetic template which is based on Fairechild's/Fairechild's mother. This explains the "Aunt" terminology the Fleur sisters use for Fairechild.
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>>1120461
Didn't Irina say she dyed her hair?
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>>1120222
Man, the gulf between the anime's Beatrix and the source version was always hilarious to me. It's like watching Gundam Origin's Krycillia and comparing her to the original series.
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>>1120527
What's the difference between Origin's Kycilia and MSG's?
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>>1120532
Origin's version was pretty much responsible for the majority of bad shit in the series. She also a complete sadist and sociopath who doesn't give a shit for her nation, manipulated Gihren into killing Degwin, lacks any of the elegance or refinement, abuses her men, and makes all the other Zabis look like saints in comparison. The original Kycilia was cold and intelligent, but she loved her family and her nation, treated her men with respect, was an all around dignified person, and was usually at odds with Gihren over his douchebaggery.
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>>1120556
Maybe she just mellowed out after a few years?
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>>1120564
Origins is a retelling of MSG.
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>>1120564
Not the Origins Ova, the Origins manga
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>>1119847
Does this mean that Rosita hired dancing cat girls for am opening act?
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>>1119005
That almost made me spit up my coffee Thunder.
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>>1120617
The Simpsons will always be funny
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>>1120622
True that brother.
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>>1120471
Anything Irina says about Rosita needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

Irina's inferiority complex may have led her to lying to slander her superior sibling.

It could also be that Rosita dyes her hair but it is dying pale/bubblegum pink to neon/shock pink rather than blond or brown to neon/shock pink. This would be a half-truth.
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>>1120649
I meant that Irina dyed her own hair blonde. I thought it got mentioned sometime WAY back
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>>1120652
I don't remember, but that wouldn't really change my supposition on Rosita's status in relation to Fairechild and the Fleurs.
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>>1117884
>“Because he's Roarke Starwind and she has tits.”

But why would he keep Sam then?
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>>1118155
It's why Inari is pretty bareboned outside of "Mechajock Grandma who can trashtalk with the best of them."
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>>1120688
He's an ass man too
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>>1118955
Eli Anon, I think.

And I'm glad I haven't made enough of a nuisance of myself to be mentioned.
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>>1119430
Ahhh, but we did see her mom, at least a picture of her with Fairchild. Another thing to consider with all this is that we are assuming that whomever provided the seed is someone we know. If I were to bet, rather than Fairchild providing it, it was her mother who did.
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>>1120761
More food for thought, why is Bahamut such a big backer for Fairy? I have the feeling one of Fairy's parent's held a high position in the Corp. And that they we're put in charge of Project Neverland
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>>1120622
Old Simpsons just had a charm that the new ones don't.
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>>1120731
At least you're all better than that one autist anon that kept trying to argue the mobile gate idea with Wong.
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>>1120527
>>1120556
Muv-Luv was an eroge, so it doesn't surprise me that they'd want even their main villain to be extremely waifuable. Not sure what the anime's excuse is though.
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Hey, Wong and Tourney Entrants, do you guys mind if I use your Mechs for my own stuff?
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>>1120761
That is my guess as well.

I think the situation is something like this:

Fairechild's mom + ??? = Fairechild (possibly the result of an egg + spermified egg with mom being both mother and father)
Mom's assistant + assistant's husband + genemoding based on Fairechild's mom = Rosita
Mom's assistant + assistant's husband = Irina
Modified clones of Rosita = Fleur sisters
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>>1120802
Nah, it's cool. None of them are optimized to actually be used in the tourney though. Do you need me to give you links to the pastebins?
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>>1120802
>>1120809
>None of them are optimized to actually be used in the tourney though
I should stop drinking.

None of them are optimized to be used in Wong universe though.
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>>1120802
Go nuts
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>>1120791
It would explain a part of her psychosis. Imagine finding out your mom wanted to make better yous or more of her? It is very much a case of being replacable. Especially with 33 running about.
>>1120807
Very well put and would work with the time table. The final piece to it all is who's 33. Should be around the same age.. though, thinking back to Cabot, she said she hates Caesar because we turned her down.. but we never turned her down as a receptionist. We DID turn down a certain red headed mechanic.
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>>1120817
33 is likely the "kidnapped" space pop idol. 48 is likely the Black Star that nearly shot Amos.
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>>1120809
>>1120811
>>1120814

Thanks guys. I could use a link to Brazil's Pastebin of tourney Mechs again as I've lost the link again.
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>>1120881
It's in the OP.

Here's all my other stuff if you want it.
http://pastebin.com/u/The_Turby_Twist
Protip: The Spider Maus is literal trash.
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>>1120878
I would disagree. Of the 4 Fleurs, Lysa is the one known to go into a berserker rage pretty often. The fight with Caesar, the general undertones during the manor visit, the whole coming at us with a fire extinguisher.. she is the most mentally unstable, but also incredibly charming. Also, for all her speech, she is also lacking something in terms of manipulation. She does not strike me as the person who would preform the riot.
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>>1120889
Huh, so it is. Wasn't there last time.
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>>1120817
>Should be around the same age.. though, thinking back to Cabot, she said she hates Caesar because we turned her down

Will be funny when/if we get confronted on this.
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>>1120817
Cabot was turned down earlier.
>>1120599
Maybe. Or that one catgirl opens up her next hotel in the belt.
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>>1120896
Please remember that the other 2 need Lysa to better handle the one who nearly shot Amos. Lysa is the leader of the 4 when they are together.

As for being a good manipulator, I suspect Lysa's "naive peace princess" style is just a facade. I'm betting Lysa is actually based on the "Lacus is an evil genius" meme rather than plain Lacus. With the reveal I suspect that the concert with Rosita was a plan to meet "mamma" Rosita and escape from auntie Fairy rather than trying to get on Auditorium for a mission.
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>>1120938
Except in this sort of case, 'handling' does not mean talking or leading. Girls a lover of strength so being able to smack her down would work as well. If it was a matter of manipulation, Lysa is pretty low. Sure she can needle someone and has charisma, but she lacks forsight, planning, and keeping a cool head. Make no mistakes, she is probably 2nd only to 33, but I do not consider her that good since every attempt at manipulation ended poorly.
Besides, the girls left with the prototypes, right? If so, Lysa should have been using a drone system as opposed to the S-Sensation. The only drone system that could possibly be close to the Megabass is what was used on the S-Slayers. The controller from what we got, was a green harpy with a weird pack.
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>>1120964

>Except in this sort of case, 'handling' does not mean talking or leading. Girls a lover of strength so being able to smack her down would work as well. If it was a matter of manipulation, Lysa is pretty low. Sure she can needle someone and has charisma, but she lacks forsight, planning, and keeping a cool head. Make no mistakes, she is probably 2nd only to 33, but I do not consider her that good since every attempt at manipulation ended poorly.

Unless the easily seen through manipulations are examples of reverse psychology and she really wants the opposite of the perceived manipulation. All those things you consider Lysa lacking could be hidden due to Lysa being a performer and good actress.

A fair number of her berserk rages could be counted as her having foresight or a good idea of what she needed for her plans to go through.

Wrecking her home makes Fairechild more likely to jump to the assumption that Lysa wasn't willingly kidnapped than a non-damaged home.

>Besides, the girls left with the prototypes, right? If so, Lysa should have been using a drone system as opposed to the S-Sensation.

No, they stole the test frame not a prototype and even if they did drone controller might not suit what Lysa believes her style to be. Biggs was the one who wanted 33 in the Megabass.
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Can I get some nonsense words for mech names? Stuff like Zaku, Gelgoog, Jesta, Jegan, etc.
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>>1121099
Zig Bam
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>>1121099
Baret, Derby, Poncho, Turban, goggles.
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>>1121124
Would Gizmab be acceptable?

>>1121129
I can use Baret.
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>>1120166
>hordes

I think you might have heard what you wanted to hear when I explained that. A lot of the genemodded did side with the Green Men, especially because they tended to be on planets exploited by the CUSS or else in heavily metropolitan areas prime for sporing, and consequently, died messily.
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So, bets on who the 5 man band are? On one hand Cima seems to fit. On the other hand, I hope we don't have to kill her if she is in the band. She gets a bad enough end in her canon.
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>>1121423
I am honestly expecting it to be a joke fight against the Belt's version of the power rangers.
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>>1121423
I was hoping they have instrument themed mechs (drummer, guitarist, bassist, etc.) and that they would merge Power Ranger style.
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>>1121435
Inb4 it's Deathklok.
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>>1121423
The Gundam Meisters minus Setsuna.
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Game begins in half an hour due to errands.
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>>1121099

... why?
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>>1121495
... To name Mechs?

The Mechs will be used for a personal project.

By the way, you banned command armor, right?
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>>1119430
Brazil the women part was a joke since you have a genuine trap attracted to you
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>>1121423
If John Cena is not used for one of their pictures.. i mean it is one of the obvious jokes
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>>1121512
Didn't we go over this last thread?

Avalonians and Kestrels get Command Armor.
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>>1121537
Command armor is something different then beta armor. It is also silly.
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>>1121544
Command armor and Beta Armor have been used interchangeably for a long time. I've stopped trying to figure out what everyone's talking about and just went along with them.
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>>1121537
Command armor is basically a second health bar. More SP, and stuff in it takes damage before the main servo.
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>>1121537
That's Beta Armor.

Command Armor is the special armor you can mount on top of normal armor.
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So, one question before we get started. Your SOUL squad is the spearhead of the forces currently at the Great Zann Dam, and you aren't going all that far. Do you want your squad to stay behind to guard against a possible enemy attack while you're out getting the Fleurs, or have them come with you?
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>>1121572
Can we bring some of them along and leave the rest at the Dam?
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>>1121572
Stay behind.
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>>1121537
Think Full Armor kits.
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>>1120964
>>1121073
At this point, I'm honestly confused by all the theories... Can you guys please explain to me whats is the main theory on this and in what you're basing it on?

>>1121391
I just used the word "hordes" to say "a great number of them, maybe more than thousands" as you said that most of the genemoded ancaps/jovians fled to Luna a long time ago.

>>1121527
I'm not really sure of this "attraction"... And at this point I'm more inclined to belive in what that anon said about confusing romantic love and friendly love... But how does that make me untrustworthy about women?... But to be honest, since my best friend shenanigans that happened some threads ago, I've been very paranoid when trusting people with vaginas... But I think thats temporary

>>1121572
Stay behind, go with Keith and...

Maybe Nyermeyer?
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>>1121553
>>1121564
>>1121580

See >>1121550
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>>1121572
I'd say take Simon with us. Close combat will work well enough in the thick jungle. Snipers and gunners will have to deal with cover.
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>>1121572
The plan's just to get them and go, right? Bring Simon if the Squillla's done being repaired. Just in case.
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>>1121572
Okay, I'm with >>1121586
Take Simon and his Girlfriend with us, with some lucky she will get damaged and he will get some sweet bonus by trying to defend her
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From what I remember from the official rules, Officer/Beta/Gamma Armor is special because it doesn't degrade with lower power hits.

Command Armor consists of external add-on components. Thinks like Macros "Full Armor" or "Super" kits.
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>>1121591
>wishing harm on your fellow soldiers
I see how it is. Can't keep your true, traitorous personality hidden can you, veggie lover.
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>>1121572
Simon and Nedermyer should be fine
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>>1121599
Stop being autistic, I obviously meant her MECH getting damaged.
If it gets a hit to the torso and nobody more gets damage because of simon beserking on the guy and tearing him down, problem solved.
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Simon and Nedermeyer isn't really an option. Nedermeyer has her own squad to command, she's not in SOUL. If you take Simon, you're leaving Garret on his own, too, so think carefully.

>Take Simon
>Take Jesus
>Take Simon and Jesus
>Go alone because that diminishes base strength the least and you have at least one enemy there already.
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>>1121614
>wishing damage upon Jovian military hardware
You're not making a good case for yourself.

I bet you think the Greenmen were right too.
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>>1121618
Can we take the best normal squad we can find?
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>>1121618
>>Go alone because that diminishes base strength the least and you have at least one enemy there already.
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>>1121618
>Go alone because that diminishes base strength the least and you have at least one enemy there already.
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>>1121618
>Take Jesus
Infuriating as he is, having long range support isn't bad either.
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>>1121618
>Go alone because that diminishes base strength the least and you have at least one enemy there already.

Also quick question, Excalibur is taken for the queens mech isn't it?
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>>1121618
Hmmm. That is a problem. Well, some support is important. At the very least I guess Jesus so there is some melee back at camp. Going alone against a unseen foe who managed to hit our stealth unit is a bad idea and Jesus is only a slight strength.
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>>1121629
Also, maybe give him a talking to on the way there. And keep him from being an absolute cock to everybody at base.
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>>1121618
>Take Jesus
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>>1121630

Why the dickens would it be? I'm vetoing Excalibur because that's an incredibly tacky name for something that isn't a gigantic Belkan laser array or an endame sword, the same as I vetoed cerberus at the beginning of the quest.
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>>1121618
>Take Jesus
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>>1121630
>>1121645
The Arthur is confirmed now.
...And the Queen is Not!Saber.
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>>1121679
i hope she is the lancer form
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>>1121679
Well all the more reason I renamed my mech to Ulfberht
>>1121645
>Endgame Sword
Roarke would never want to use that, better off giving it to Moe or even Oda
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>>1118863
>tfw you legit want this guy to show up now
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“I'm really glad we get this chance to work together, Flight Leader. Captain Clearwater has a good reputation, but...his fighting style, it's a little over the hill. I really should formally report him.” Jesus prattles as your mecha zip across the moors on their Mantas. You have a third one strung up between them, so that your group won't be slowed down by Lara's damaged Betta-MP.

“Why?” You ask, finally, after pretending not to hear him for a while.

“Assaulting SOUL personnel? Lieutenant, we're the best of the best of the best in this military, we deserve some extra respect.” Jesus' Warmouth swivels its head towards you.

“Gotta give it to get it.” You point out, “Besides, you insulted the Captain.”

“I was helping-” He starts.

“No, you weren't. You're wrong, anyway. My girlfriend is a technician, I've heard the theories at length. Acting superior just creates enemies.” You grumble, resisting the urge to yank out the exposed comms wire near the base of his mech's neck. You wish you had YOUR squad here, but you can't justify taking all three SOUL mecha on this retrieval.

>[roll 1d10+11]
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Rolled 6 + 11 (1d10 + 11)

>>1121706
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>>1121679

This has to be a joke, you cannot seriously not have guessed the actual name of the Queen's mech by now. You know what? I'm not going to tell you, I'm just going to point out that there is no way in heaven or hell it's "Arthur".
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Rolled 4 + 11 (1d10 + 11)

>>1121706
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>>1121715
Is it Captain Planet?
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>>1121692
I wonder if she only have daughters and everyone of them is a saber too.
>>1121693
>Implying that he wouldn't destroy it to secure his fists status as the most powerfull weapons on the galaxy.
Step up ye jousting, brethren!
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Rolled 3 + 11 (1d10 + 11)

>>1121715
Is it Lancelot?
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>>1121581
>At this point, I'm honestly confused by all the theories... Can you guys please explain to me whats is the main theory on this and in what you're basing it on?

The over theory is that the project head mentioned in >>1118958 is General Fairechild's mother (with the "male" donor of half of Fairechild's chromosomes being unknown with me throwing a fucked up guess as to her mother being the source of both) and source of the distinct physical trait (i.e. pink hair). The pregnant woman mentioned in that post is the mother of Rosita and Irina and Rosita was the prototype coordinator genemoded with the project head's "enhanced" DNA based on how similar Irina and Rosita's family history is to that of the pregnant woman's. The vat grown children that Biggs mentioned are therefore modified super-soldier clones of Rosita as well as all the Fleur girls that have appeared in the quest.

The argument about who the subjects 33 and 48 mentioned in >>1119158 are. I think 33 is Lysa and 48 is the girl the nearly shot Amos after Garret got attacked by Major Cabot and >>1120964 thinks 48 is Lysa and 33 is still a mystery.

>>1121715
My guess is that it is Roland or Charlemagne. Though Bradamant might be cool.
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>>1121715
Pendragon?
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Ha ha seriously you guys can stop pretending to be retarded now, you all recognized the origin of the Paladin names earlier, there's no way any of you would be this dumb.
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>>1121742
So... it's not Captain Planet?
Now I have to go and find all the ones I don't remember.
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>>1121742
I turn my head to get some stuff done, and this is what happens.
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>>1121742
I do think that Charlemagne seems the most likely. Given that Roland is explicitly taken. The Knights of the round table seem likely for ship names or something. Or maybe backup names once they run out of paladins.
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>>1121742
So not Authur but Clarent Blood Authur?
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>>1121755

Thank you. I don't consider it a spoiler, it should have been obvious, and anyone who seriously thought Arthur would be in charge of the Twelve Peers needs to go...go sit outside and think about what they've done.
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>>1121099
>>1121512
just start mashing the scientific names of animals together, that's how I got Sagiser
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>>1121763
I do consider it ironic that the Avalon names their mecha after the 12 peers though. The historical Roland was actually killed by the Britons after all.
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>>1121755
Speaking of the Knights of the Round, imagine if the greenies had some intelligence service like Kingsmen. Spy knights going around about acting supremely british.
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>>1121771

The system had its name well before the Paladins were built.
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Oh yeah, While I'm pretty sure regular command armor is banned what about modular metaform wings that turn into command armor?
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Hey Wong, did the CUSS every come into contact with Ayy lmaos?
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>>1121794
No alien organisms of any significance exist in setting.
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>>1121801
Guess the bogpill was a lie
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“Hm, they're not at the designated spot, at least I'm not reading them on my sensors.” You note, peering at your screen.

“I miss my S-Slinger.” Jesus sighs, “Extra sensor range, extremely sophisticated, capable of spotting weak points from over ten kilos away and delivering high-yield plasma bolts into them with unmatched precision...it was perfect, perfectly designed. An aesthetic both futuristic and paying homage to the classics, colored to reflect both strength and vitality, a head design chosen from among dozens to be as heroic as possible, a true epitome of SOUL's purpose. A multi-stage offensive loadout, going from my own custom-built rifle to a backup gun in case the Black Ogre took one of its arms off, to glorious white wings that could engage a sky full of targets at once. One little screwup, and General Fairchild stuck me in this...this thing, and gave all of our squad's funding to...well...you. It just isn't fair.”

“I'm sure she'll forgive you eventually. Chin up, I had a Pumpkinseed II for the longest time and I loved that little machine from the moment they told me I was getting one. Beautiful design.” You sigh happily, “I actually wasn't looking forward that much to getting a SOUL mech, you know?”

“Why not, sir?” Jesus questions, “I don't understand, why wouldn't you want a better exo-suit?”

“Exo-what?” You question, wondering where he dug up that term.

“Mech, sir. I was wondering why you didn't want a better mech.” He sighs.

You shrug, “I had a very good mech. I was used to it, I liked it, and I knew whatever I got next was going to be bigger and heavier and harder to maneuver. It doesn't matter how great your mech's weapons are if it gets shot down, being able to move is what separates live pilots from dead ones. Something fancy but clunky tends to get designated as a priority target by the enemy, anyway. Thank Jove for Irina's designs, the S-Delphinius is as good as it's possible to get.” You do a sick move on your Manta, angling it up and doing a flip with the maneuvering verniers of your main mech providing thrust. “This is good for you. From the sound of it, you relied too much on your mech and that's why it failed. You've got the potential to be a good pilot, but you've got to start from the bottom up.”

Jesus copies it, his sniper rifle slung over his shoulders, “At least it's not the Pumpkinseed I, a Warmouth is a bit safer even if it's ugly.”

“Bahamutcorp could have done better.” You concede, “Don't let Garret hear that you're still trash-talking the Warmouth, though. So, those were some neat weapons...if a bit single-minded...what kind of defenses did the S-Slinger have? A beam shield, like the Pyxi's?”

“Defenses, sir?” Jesus questions, sounding hurt, “It was a sniping mech, it didn't need them. That's for close-up machines and ones that actually expect to waddle into the fray.”

[Continued]
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>>1121706
>>1121708
Here's hoping a gap of 3 is more than enough to pass.
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>>1121826
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>>1121826
>“Defenses, sir?” Jesus questions, sounding hurt, “It was a sniping mech, it didn't need them. That's for close-up machines and ones that actually expect to waddle into the fray.”

>It didn't need them
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Rolled 1, 4 = 5 (2d10)

>>1121831
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>>1121826
>“Defenses, sir?” Jesus questions, sounding hurt, “It was a sniping mech, it didn't need them. That's for close-up machines and ones that actually expect to waddle into the fray.”

Amos needs to facepalm at this.
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Rolled 6, 6 = 12 (2d10)

>>1121836
>>1121831

Crit crit
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>>1121826
Does Amos know about Fatima blowing him the fuck out? Can we ask him if not having any defenses is why the Tarrasque took his head off so easily?
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>>1121826
Well, one one hand I can respect that since I love using two handed weapons whenever possible.

on the other hand are you fucking kidding me.
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>>1121838
ammo explosion, a sub assembly takes a hit, or his right side is gone. Also, that is a crit with only a difference of 1. I know Jesus is shit, but DAMN.
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Rolled 4, 8, 1, 7 = 20 (4d10)

>>1121838
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>>1121826
>“Defenses, sir?” Jesus questions, sounding hurt, “It was a sniping mech, it didn't need them. That's for close-up machines and ones that actually expect to waddle into the fray.”
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>>1121847
sasuga jesus.
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“Oh. So that's how you lost it.” You remark, noting his Sniper Warmouth isn't exactly well-armed either, and the two of you fly on in silence for a while, before you spot a thin column of smoke and three mecha signatures, “There's the flare, let's move in...”

And then, something happens.

“LT!” It's Lara's voice over the comms, finally in range, “Stay away! Get out of here! It might still be somewhere around! Please, pull back, you need more me-” She's drowned out by an explosion and the sound of Jesus screaming.

You look over, and see that something is standing behind the Warmouth, embracing it. A sharp-tipped stake is sticking out through its head and one of its legs, the Warmouth's thrusters exploding one by one as lightning races over its entire frame. Long, slender, roughly rectangular sensor antennae stick up on either side of the narrow, graceful head watching you over the Warmouth's shoulder. Keith thrashes and jerks visibly over vidcomms, sparks racing across his screens, before slumping back in his pilot seat, unresponsive.

“How good is your aim, flyboy?” A gentle, feminine, and yet distinctly satisfied voice reaches you over vidcomm, as the black mech twists the Sniper Warmouth around in front of it.

>[Attack]
>[Talk]
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>>1121846

Oh, the first number in both of those first 2d10s was Jesus' dodge roll, I put him first because he's on your side (I switch up how I do it between fights so it's not immediately predictable, generally, but write in my notes how I'm doing it so I won't be tempted to fudge things), he's facing an opponent with an accuracy advantage striking from an angle where he takes penalties, and worst of all he's using his Manta's Mecha Reflexes value.
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>>1121890
>>[Talk]
lets see what happens
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>>1121890
>[Attack]
For christ sake, its the BETA.
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>>1121890
>>[Attack]
No reason to negotiate with someone who just took out your allies
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>>1121890
>>[Talk]
Keep calm, listen carefully, stay on guard. Intel is important.
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>>1121906
>the black mech twists the Sniper Warmouth around in front of it.
Its using Keith as a shield.
....Oh, the irony...
>>1121890
>[Talk]
WHAT THE...!?
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>>1121890
>[Talk]
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>>1121906
Plenty of reasons to. Aim actions make it easier to hit, we don't know if she's alone, and getting a direct feed might be important. Our goal is to recover them. Not fight.
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>>1121913
Also she currently has a hostage in her reach and 3 hostages on the ground.
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>>1121890
What does Amos know about Sam? I don't remember he ever hearing about her.
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>>1121908
The best defense is an object so dense it can repel common sense.

Jesus is useful after all.
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>>1121927
Anyone got that picture of "I'm a genius!" "OH NO!"? It seems oddly fitting.
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>>1121890
Bueno! Finally get to see more of best girl.
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>inb4 Amos one-shots Sam
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>>1121935
>Keith's face when
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>>1121952
Only the toppest of keks.
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>>1121952
Thank you. Gonna save that for when Jesus fucks up. It will likely get a lot of use.
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>>1121952
Does anyone have a picture of Keith's inspiration looking surprised?
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>>1121941
Are we even certain it is Sam and not a false flag?

Only reason I can see this attack happening with Sam is if the Black Stars found the Kestrel's hidden mecha.
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>>1121966
Never mind, I found one.
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>>1121968
Look at the picture Wong used for this stealthy mecha pilot that uses shocking pilebunkers.
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>>1121968
There is presumably a good reason for this. Wong doesn't strike me as the type to make things difficult for us by having the main cast do stupid shit the instant we don't control them.
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>>1121974
What's the problem? nobody's getting hurt.
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>>1121982
The whole "helping avalon" thing.
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>>1121986
Well, we will hear more soon. For all we know, Sam saw the bettas and went 'this would be a lovely gift for Roarke, more bettas and hostages! Oh, and there's Jesus. Payback time!'
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>>1121941
Where? I'm not seeing Fatima anywhere!
>>1121974
Other than she being the WORST GIRL? Maybe, I'm expecting a plot twist, or something bane related.
>>1121982
Keith pride is!
KEK

>>1121986
Helping Ford? I doubt it, even I wouldn't do it.
I doubt that even Solaire would do it, even with him being a religious fanatic... The Father goes even against the will of the Lady, the guy was condemned from the moment he decided to get out of his tomb.
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“What the...!?” You're momentarily taken offguard, but only momentarily. You're you, after all. “Good enough.” You lift your left arm, both barrels of your gun system aimed at the slender head of the enemy mech. You're sure Keith would have thrown a fit about having your weapons pointed at him if he was conscious. You don't actually plan to use the cannons, if it comes to it, your missiles are a bit more precise.

“I already knew you were a risk taker, Lieutenant. Congratulations on the Berenger, by the way. You're a credit to SOUL.” She sounds genuinely congratulatory, shifting her mech's head as far behind the Warmouth's flattened one as possible, like a girl hugging a teddybear almost as big as she is.

“Are you with Avalon? If not, why did you attack my teammate?” You question, starting to circle around. The enemy mech is having none of it, though, turning to keep the Warmouth between you and her.

“...Have you spent more than a few minutes around him? If you have, you'll understand exactly why I attacked him.” The newcomer mech pats the Warmouth's head. Its fingers are slender and graceful, and it has a shield fin on each forearm shaped like a small wing or fan of feathers. Its pilebunkers retract slowly into these fins, hopefully signifying a lack of bloodlust. It looks an awful lot like the Betta, the original, but the armor is clearly different.

“As a target of opportunity, maybe.” You point out, continuing to circle.

“You're right, he wasn't my real goal. You see, the ones I'm interested in are those three back there. You just showed up before I was done. There's something I need to know about, something I promised to find out, something that might ensure the safety of the person I love. Does the fact that I'm telling you this reassure you? It should. I'm not your enemy, Keith notwithstanding...but those three just might be. Stop moving, please, I know you're trying to put my back to the ripoff Bettas, probably with the intention of signaling one of them to take a gamble and hit me with missiles from behind.” The feathery black-and-white mech's left-hand pilebunker extends slightly, and it taps it against the metal cuirass over Jesus' cockpit.

>[What say?]
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>>1121986
As far as I'm concerned, she's so far done...what, attacked Darth idols (probably psycho) clones and Keith. Since I'm of the opinion that attacking him should be considered a time honored pastime, how's that aiding Avalon? Is she waiving an avalonian flag?
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>>1121998
Nobody important is getting hurt. My bad, should have clarified. Keith doesn't count.
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>>1121999
"Explain, please."

And stop moving, I guess.
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>>1121999
>"See, that's a problem. First all of them are soldiers under my command, so I'm required to defend them. Even Jesus. Second, I can't have you break our mecha, we kinda need them to beat up Avalonians and kill the Greenman they are trying to rescue. I shudder to think how the General is going to spin this if you give her the chance."
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>>1121999
Checked, nice trips.
>I will listen to what you have to say, for now, but I don't have all the time of the world and at the first sign of any trickery... Lets say that even a object dense enough to block common sense will not be able to protect you.
Stop flying around.
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>>1121999
That depends really. We need those three back at the base pronto. The situation is getting worse, and we need all hands on deck to protect this planet. Hell, we could use all the help we can. I'll debrief you three about it once we get back, but as is Miss, why not a trade? Either credits or info to help with the defenses. If you are who I think you are, then you have no love for what we are trying to stop either.
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>>1121999
> This has something to do with General Fairechild and her Nieces in particular. What is it?
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>>1121999
Putting a loooot of faith in the idea that Amos would spare you for Keith, Sam.

I know I wouldn't.

Luckily Amos is a nice enough guy.
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>>1121999
"Keith, don't do anything stupid. Which is basically anything."
My memes are the spiciest.
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>>1121999
Lady, we have more important shit to deal with right now. Let the Idiot go, and I'll let you leave with that pretty machine intact.
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>>1122040
>that edit
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>>1122052
You really think I care enough to make it look good? Did you forget who made the flag?
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>>1122040
>insert you tried.gif here
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>>1122056
None of you philistines understand real memes.
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>>1122060
The best quest art are the shitty ones
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>>1122060
I Liked it
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Caught up
All this Sam hate
Why?
She's clearly here investigating for Roarke and she beat the shit out of Keith
Nothing wrong with any of that
Sucks for Amos though
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>>1122096
Stay in character my man. Amos don't know shit.
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“Couldn't you just have asked?” You inquire, “You're damaging our operational effectiveness right before engaging the main Avalonian commander on this planet. As their commander, I'm required to defend them. Even Jesus.” You keep your mech still, hovering in midair.

“Believe me, that's commendable. It's nice to see SOUL isn't completely ruined...at least, as far as you're concerned. As for the other three, I had to intervene. I was planning to stay quiet and perhaps offer my help in exchange for some answers, but one of them was raining fire onto a village when I arrived. I didn't think it prudent to negotiate from a position of weakness under those circumstances.” The black mech cants its head to one side, “She seemed enthusiastic. Now, I won't say there aren't extenuating circumstances, but...I had to make her stop. For the sake of the civilians, and the UJCIDF, I've dealt with the General before and burning a village to get a propaganda smear on Avalon out of it is hardly beyond the pale for her.”

“Mmmh.” You reply noncommittally, not wanting to agree or disagree. You don't know the General that well. You also don't think Lara would have allowed something like that. “Maybe we can help each other. Let Ensign Young go, I'll give you information to the best of my ability.”

“That suits me fine.” She replies, “I never intended to kill him. After all...I owe the happiest event in my life to him, in a certain way. Still, all joking about his obnoxious personality aside, if I hadn't stopped him from fighting immediately he would have opened fire on me at once.” The Betta-like mech releases Ensign Young, steps back off the edge of his Manta, which blocks your sight for a moment...and then disappears, although you still hear her voice over the comms, “These three are supposed to be the General's nieces, right? Yet, she didn't take them with her, she doesn't seem eager to have them in the spotlight, and most importantly they have no pasts.”

[Continued]
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>>1122111
I assume there's no prize for guessing the one burning down the village is the one using Nena Trinity's portrait.
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>>1122111
I'm gonna say Cabots little love slave is the pyro.
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“No past? What do you mean, everyone has a past.” You respond, confused.

“Oh, these maneuvering jets are nice. Very modern. You do have a pretty mech. I'm saying, sir, that General Hermione Fairchild has no siblings. I did a lot of digging on her. No brothers, no sisters. She's an only child. I would suspect these are her illegitimate children, but she's notoriously uninterested in men. Yes, there are procedures for two women to have a child together, but there's no record of that or of her ever having a significant romantic partner, just semi-clandestine flings, mostly with women under her command. Besides, the children of a General, not attending the Academy? That's ridiculous.”

“Wait, what? No. Look, you don't get into SOUL, or even the UJCIDF, without going through the Academy.” You protest, confused, “It's a big campus with multiple colonies, I'm sure we just never met while I was there.”

“There isn't any record of a single person with the last name Fleur matching their description. Believe me, I looked. Something dirty is going on here, Lieutenant, and I want to know what before one of them has the chance to get close to someone I...well...someone I love. Please try to understand, I'm being as open with you as I can be. If you were an enemy, or even someone I'm neutral to, I wouldn't have said a word of this to you, but I'm as far on your side as I can be without taking orders from someone like Fairchild.” You have no idea where she is, but she sounds sincere.

You also think you have an inkling of who she is. The S-Betta's original pilot was supposedly, according to the file you saw, a SOUL pilot from Intelligence. She was ostensibly kidnapped, revealed the location of a secret development base, and retired after what sounds to you a lot like the usual symptoms of political bullshit among the upper brass. The only reason she's significant beyond that is because she's marrying Roarke Starwind, a fact that would have gone in one ear and out the other if Irina hadn't been so irritated about her sister being on the same list.

>[Believe her]
>[Do not believe her]
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>>1122129
>>[Believe her]
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>>1122129
>[Believe her]
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>>1122129
>>[Believe her]
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>>1122129
>[Tentatively believe she could be right]
WE know she's telling the truth and trustworthy, but Amos doesn't. He does have reason to believe that she's could be telling the truth though, since she was in SOUL.
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>>1122129
>>[Believe her]
Still, At the end of the day, they are human. Nothing changes. I will have some words with them about the fire, but I will treat them as members of my company and SOUL members.
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>>1122129
Say I do believe you, and you are who I think you are. Answer me one question, why did you really "retire" what really happened?
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>>1122128
Cabot is usually a safe bet when something bad happens.

>>1122129
>[Trust but verify]
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>>1122129
>[Believe her]
>Grab the Sisters and go
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>>1122129
Can Amos also make a comment about seeing her at the wedding?
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>>1122129
>>[Believe her]
>"Can you prove it here and now? Do you have recording the village burning thing? Even if I believe you, what do you want from me from truth alone?"
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>>1122164
Out of character, knowing Sam, she definitely did.
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Man, how much worse can shit get for Amos on Quilor? I don't think Amos has had a day without being up to his knees in shit he has to deal with.
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>>1122182
>Man, how much worse can shit get for Amos on Quilor?

I mean, Stern could get spored somehow then genemodded by the Lady to be even more broken then show up in a new, more powerful machine.
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>>1122182
Don't jinx it man. Shit can ALWAYS get worse homeslice.
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>>1122182
Belegor.
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>>1122182
Amos is an ascended imperial guardsmen. The fact he is probably one of the top 3 most competent SOULS members is equally depressing.
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>>1122182
>The Paladin could rush to the dam in a surprise attack or in a "hit and run" strategy while they aren't expecting him and Amos is out.
>Bane could be in the dam and spying for Avalon
>The greenman may have enough power to fight at least one last time.
>Fairchild planned on having everyone killed and the girls planted bombs on the ships.
>Not!Iok do Iok-tier crap and severely damages SSL equipment and personnel.
>Hector was infected and is possessed by the Father.
>Simon beserkers for any many possible reasons.
>The Paladin knows how to force other bio-armors into beserk.
>Irina dies because of any of these things.

I can come up with more problems if you want, I think...
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>>1122193
a what?
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>>1122205
YOU FOOL!
YOU HAVE DOOMED US!
murphy is watching every thing we do.....
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>>1122193
You're forgetting that SOUL is more of a figurehead. There's Stern, who is apparently death incarnate. Coop in the not-Megas. Fairchild apparently can control a decent number of bits according to those tapes Roarke has. There's a guy floating around with Jehuty now too.
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>>1122206
>he don't know 40k
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>>1122193
In real world militaries commissioned former enlisted are often the most effective Officers.

>>1122206
Promoted grunt.
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>>1122206
>Not knowing the Imperial Guard
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>>1122206
Warhammer 40k. The imperial guardsmen were cheap, expendable, and used in large numbers. Amos was that himself.. and then this scenario happened and he has somehow gained an innate bonus against Avalonians and greenmen.
>>1122212
Ehh, it's becoming more than that now. With the MP Soul units and the Delphinus, they can cover a lot of ground. Rather than being a small strike team, it could be an army in of itself.. which is why Fairchild needs to not have a hold of it soon.
>>1122216
True. Working your way up and knowing how the common soldier works means you can plan and lead better. Its why our fellows seem to keep messing up.
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i thought it was some kind of special guards men thank you very much! i know what it is. i don't read the books though. i don't like grim-derp all that much.
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>>1122230
Only good thing about 40k is the Orks, in my opinion. Since they give no shits about anything, they just wanna fight.
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>>1122227
If Amos gets into acting after the war ends he will be the second coming of Audie Murphy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audie_Murphy
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“I believe you. If you were an enemy, this would be something of a pointless deception, and you would have attacked me too by now. But there's something I need to know. Corporal Blanchett, why did you really retire? What happened?” You lower your guns. You don't plan on shooting, even if you see her.

She sighs, “You're a nice boy. The galaxy could use more nice boys.” Your mech registers a minor impact, something patting the S-Delphinius' head. Her voice sounds sad, “I had high hopes for SOUL. For all of his faults, Keith isn't wrong. We were supposed to be heroes, flying in to save the day when people were in danger, representing everything good about Jupiter and the Solar System League. Instead, General Fairchild forced General Baljaag to retire, somehow, and with the backing of the Senate took control of SOUL. She somehow allied herself with the Green Skulls...”

You clear your throat in polite interruption, and she lets you speak, “Can you prove that?”

“Not well enough.” She replies bitterly, “Except that the Green Skulls' top mech ace was supposedly killed in battle against a man named Bruce Kelly, only to reappear piloting what's clearly an S-Slayer remotely manipulated through some kind of drone technology. It showed up later, as part of a SOUL squad, and taunted Roarke about his brother's death. Anyway, I first knew something was wrong when the Green Skulls hit the base on Suleiman 1 and SOUL was ordered to hold position and not move while the Green Skulls murdered and raped and enslaved their way through a colony that was working for US, that trusted US to protect them.” You can hear the deep-buried anger in her voice, “I saw a man I idolized, a hero, bound up so tightly in the chain of command that he couldn't act...and I lost faith in the system. Luckily, there was a pirate captain who I...well, there's no point hiding it...I had a crush on, and he was a good man, good enough to go save as many people as he could even when he was horribly outnumbered. My sweet, gentle Roarke.”

[Continued]
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>>1122193
Seeing as the UJCIDF doesn't fight like that anymore, that's a pretty terrible analogy.
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>>1122238
i would be ok with it if it wasn't obvious the humans WILL lose in the setting with out some deus ex machina
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>>1122245
Please, they'll just have some End Tiimes, and then reboot everything Age of Sigmar style
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>>1122248
God please no. One Age of Sucking Shit was almost too much for our reality to handle.
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>>1122227
>. Amos was that himself..

>kid was a SOUL candidate

>being a nameless, faceless grunt with little training and less firepower

Amos was never a mook, anon. He was always just a step above.
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>>1122240
Now that man was a big goddamn hero.
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>>1122241
I'm still waiting for Sam to prove anything, and to say what she wants here, does she wants to take the girls? Why should we let her when we need as much people as we can get?
Also, I don't think that Amos would just abandon the girls in pirates hands so easily... And I wouldn't like to see them coming back for revenge or something.
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>>1122258
To be fair, the girls are creepy as fuck. And no one likes that shit.
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>>1122268
They indeed are... But Amos is UJCIDF and they don't start giving punishment on that level without proofs and following multiple military regulations involving such.

...And we are about to face the Gerin and an entire Avalonian army.
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Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>1122284
>rolling for how BTFO Ford is going to be
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Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>1122286
>Rolling for EXPLOSION
KEK
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Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>1122286
>>1122292
You are like baby.
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“Gentle? Lady, is this the Bull of Io we're talking about? The pilot of the Black Ogre? Gentle is not the word I'd use.” You can't help being skeptical.

“It's different when you're his woman, Lieutenant!” She harrumphs, “Roarke is a brutal fighter, but he has a sweet and noble heart, and he makes me happier than anything else. He can be very gentle when he wants to be.”

“He rips his enemies in half! He punches craters into them!” You do not believe this.

“So what? If I had to describe every time he's been sweet, or thoughtful, or gentle with me or the other girls or the people around him, we would be here all night. Pirate or not, he's a true hero, he rescued those people and would have saved them all if Fairchild hadn't come back to collect any witnesses of note, encountered an Avalon battleship, and used the colony as a shield. A colony died because of her selfishness and cowardice, Lieutenant, and even if it wasn't intentional, which I am truly unsure of, she let it happen because those lives meant NOTHING to her except the chance to frame someone politically inconvenient. We have witnesses, even if Roarke doesn't want to paint a target on their backs.” Her voice becomes slightly less soft, “I'm not asking you to take my testimony or the recordings I have with you to your superiors. I handled that myself, in person, by giving them to a ranking member of Intelligence when I submitted my resignation from the UJCIDF. It's probably the real reason why I got a pension, her faux-First Mate gloats entirely too much in front of people with recording devices in their mecha. Incidentally, said First Mate showed up later, openly serving as a member of SOUL B on Griggspont, and taunted Roarke about her role in these affairs.”

[Continued]
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>>1122307
Boy I hope Amos name drops Cabot so Roarke can know whose ass he's hunting for
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>>1122314
Yeah. The happening meter would implode then.
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“Alongside Ensign Young and that priest?” You question.

“No.” She replies, “The priest is some kind of cover for her, he was edited in to that footage completely. I've seen the recordings from the Archen, a Scavvie starship, and the Knuckle Kaiser for myself. Apparently she was also allied with Commodore Rashad Abujamal of the Martian Holy Militia, a man who was posthumously dishonored for murdering his father-in-law and enslaving his wife with a modified HMIS headband used originally by the Green Skulls to control their captives. But that isn't your concern. In fact, I would prefer you not to cause trouble with Fairchild at all. You getting assassinated in a way that stirs up anti-Avalon sentiment is the last thing I want.”

“So what, actually, do you want?” You're a little bit frustrated, as much as you want to believe this. You already knew Fairchild was a bit of a snake from Colonel Luxol.

“Ah. Sorry. Let me explain. Why don't you go rescue those girls? They'll be grateful. Talk to them, befriend them, find out about them and what they know. I'll appreciate anything you send me, and regardless of how much or how little you find out my squad and I will assist you against the Paladin and his forces...which hopefully have been slowed down by the fusion mines I was setting before running into the terrible trio.” You're receiving an offer to exchange PC contact information, “While you're at it, why don't you ask Ensign Young what really happened at Griggspont? If nothing suspicious was going on, you'll know. He's a terrible liar.”

>[Agree]
>[Disagree]
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>>1122318
>[Agree]
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>>1122314

Any backers?
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>>1122318
>[Agree]
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>>1122318
>>[Agree]
BEST TIMELINE
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>>1122318
>>[Agree]
We need to talk to these four anyways. At the very least, we need to set an example and make SOUL a good thing. Not hired thugs.
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>>1122325
I don't want to spoil the wedding by stirring up that much directed hatred in Roarke. Save it for after.
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>1122318
>[Agree]

>>1122325
I dunno. On one hand, happening. On the other, the happening will never stop. I'll roll it.
1. Yes
2. No
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>>1122325
Sure. Let's stir some shit up. One of Thunders least atrocious ideas anyhow.
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>1122318
>[Agree]
>And just so you know, the only woman on Soul B is named Bethany Cabot and she's in deep with Fairchild

>>1122333
If Roarke finds out before the auction we can demand Bethany
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>>1122325
Let's see how the battle plays out before we get too buddy-buddy. It doesn't seem like something Amos would do without more trust in the person he was talking to.
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>>1122318
>[Agree]
no reason not to. we don't have to tell her a thing if we don't feel like it.
>>1122325
sure. we have to kill her sometime. Even if she isn't the First Mate.
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>>1122333

Fair enough, Amos doesn't know it's a secret anyway.
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>>1122325
At the very least, mention there was talk of that sort of thing amongst higher ups.
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>>1122325
Backing
>And just so you know, the only woman on Soul B is named Bethany Cabot and she's in deep with Fairchild
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>>1122318
>>[Agree]
>>1122325
Give her some info but not all of it yet, save some for when Amos can knows for certain Sam can be trusted
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>>1122325
If you can do it in a way where Amos accidentally shares that tidbit, sure.

Otherwise, don't bother.
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>>1122318
Agree
Shits smelling fishy.
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Alright, I'm falling asleep, so we're calling it here. Game resumes Saturday because Friday I have a family thing going on. We'll be able to get the last of the discussion out of the way, and set the stage for fighting the Paladin. Incidentally, I'm pleasantly surprised, I rather expected Samantha was going to get attacked.
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>>1122360
Night Wong.
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>>1122360
I think Amos has proven he's unwilling to hurt cute girls.

Also I was afraid the dice would decide to fuck us and Amos would succeed. There's no way Roarke would take that well.
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>>1122360
Night Wong
Thanks for running
See you Saturday night
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>>1122363
>Amos accidentally hurts Sam
>He then has to deal with max RAGE Roarke on top of a Greenman and Paladin
I can only imagine how angry Roarke would get if someone killed one of his waifus
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>>1122360
Amos has done pretty well with talking to the enemy. Even if it's to buy time or for a strategic advantage.
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>>1122367
>What could go wrong?
>Well, Roarke Starwind himself could come here and decide to shove the Kaiser's fist up your ass.
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>>1122360
Good night Wong, thanks for running, you're the best QM I ever seen.
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>>1122367
>Roarke gets news a waifu was killed
>The KK spontaneously develops a biocore which goes apeshit
>The Lady herself can feel it and is pissing her green panties
>Simon's mech starts screaming uncontrollably
>The Paladins are quaking
>Stern takes notice
>Hell freezes
>The Dragon Balls go inert
How over the top are we allowed to go?
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>>1122371
>The Kaiser rams into the side of the ship with enough power for it's head to pierce the bridge window.
>'I heard you were talking shit, like I wouldn't find out.'
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>>1122373
>even master asia is scared
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>>1122367
Picture related.
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>>1122373
All the Qu'liri start going 'no no no no no' much like their cat counterparts
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKI-tD0L18A
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Don't mind me just trying to remember how trips work, what with it being almost a decade since i have used one
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>>1122318
>[Agree]
Incidentally, we shouldn't mention her accusation about them blowing up a village to the terrible trio. That's what mission recorders are for.
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Guys... I just had a dream of me watching a MSPQ anime...

It was the most beautiful thing I dreamt of in a while.
It had god tier visuals and animation, with the space battles being a show of lights effects and detailed textures in high speed maneuavering in middle of the sea of stars.
And the voicing... OG GOD THE VOICING WAS SUBERB! I never knew that soundwaves could feel so good... And it had the original seyuus of each Not! Character voicing them...
I also don't remember the entire plot of the episode, but it had to do with one of Roarke's sons being "cursed" by this guy who was some sort of ilusionist villain who used giant magic tricks in his raids and "cursed" people into having mysterious deaths that he "predicted"... But it was also some sort of trick and the cursed guy, his friends and some of his siblings were trying to solve this crap without involving Roarke as he had other things to deal with, and they somehow ended up in a undercover mission on mars and discovered that the guy was working to the first mate of one of the Seven that had somehow survived in the past... What led to flashbacks of the Seven's Arc happening again and again as they discovered new clues... Which were the best parts of the episode because it showed Roarke being badass.
Also, Vash was one of Roarke's sons.


Best dream of this year.
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>>1122325
Sure. She bear up Garret and Amos was warned that she'd never stop trying to harm him. He has no reason to shield her, and plenty to want her otherwise occupied.
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>>1122325
yes
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>>1122767
Jesus BR, you're even dreaming about MSPQ
I think you might need a breather
Or to avoid the Tomes of madness for a little while
At least it wasn't a dream about joining forces with Avalon
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>>1122843
i would love a anime about this.
at least a manga.
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>>1122767
>>1122843
BR, I think you need to go outside and and get some fresh air. And maybe read something that has nothing to do with mekton. I recommend Patrick Rothfuss's books.
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>>1122843
B-But... Anon said that I must revise his mech for the 15th time...
>>1122860
>Patrick Rothfuss's books.
Is the third one out yet?

Kinda sad lately, with people, with the world, and a little scared by the possibilities of the future... So I've been mostly watching anime and browsing /pol/ for the last week...
I thought about going outside... but there isn't really where to go, I would probably just wander aimlessy until I get mugged or something.
...Hey, anons, what is the purpose of life?
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>>1123130
>what is the purpose of life
42
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>>1123130
42 dumbass! everyone know that!
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>>1123130
there is a book about Auri out, but not the actual third book
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>>1123130
To live. Also to keep making mechs.
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>>1123130
>What is the purpose of life

To crush your enemies!
To see them driven before you and to hear the lamentation of their women!
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>>1122767
Interesting and concerning but everyone has their own thing

>>1123130
Enjoy life the way only you enjoy it, if it's watching anime and browsing pol, if it makes you happy then it is good.
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>>1124152
Raping babies makes me feel good. Does that mean I should do it?
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>>1124169
Are you happy? if so then that's your prerogative, not my place to judge
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>>1123148
>>1123151
I love you guys...
>>1123276
Already read that one... It was okay, but I want to see more of best boy.
>>1123355
Hum... Interesting choice of words... So, how does one really "live"?

>>1124138
What if they are women? What if they don't have women? What if they are gays? What if you don't have human enemies?

>>1124152
>browsing pol making anyone "happy"
KEK
Did you ever browsed /pol/? Most of time it isn't really "happy".
>>1124169
My former best friend decided that stealing the husband of another woman made her happy... Then she tried to justify it by "Everyone should just follow their hearts!"

She would be dead by now if I did that.


>>1124201
Would you let him do it?
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>>1124244
Well someone's going to be lamenting at the end of the day and it sure as hell aint going to be me.
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>>1124244
I did I stopped because it turned into political /b/, there was time when actual discussion got done, not anymore.

No, if it were within my power to stop him I would but I'm not an international spy or assassin or anything like that so no.
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>>1124169
>Raping babies
Get that weak shit out of here. I'm into consensual sex in the missionary position.
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>>1124299
that's it? i enjoy hand holding! GET ON MY LEVEL!
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>>1124314
You don't hold hands in the missionary position? Are you retarded?
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>>1124286
Are you >>1124138?
Your ID has changed.

>>1124291
Thunder is more closer than you think!

>>1124299
Not having: Handholding, cuddling, growing older together and having a big family as your tru fetishes.
Pfffff, step up yer jousting fart knights! Don't you even have nuclear families in Jupiter?
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>>1124314
>>1124315
>not hand holding during any position
Why live?

>>1124324
I'm in Australia I am 80% sure he's in america or another part of the world, I don't think he's very close.
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>>1124314
>>1124324
>not hand holding during any position
DEGENERATES

>>1124339
Huh, interesting, I wonder how many countries we have represented here....
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I made a mech that hits 57 MA:

Hybrid Mech
Mega Heavy Head: C/S/K: 11, 5.5 tons
Mega heavy Torso: C/S/K: 22, 11 tons
Mega Heavy Leg: C/S/K: 12, 5.5 tons
Mega Heavy Leg: C/S/K: 12, 5.5 tons
Mega Heavy Wing: C/S/K: 11, 5.5 tons
Mega Heavy Wing: C/S/K: 11, 5.5 tons
Armor & Sensors:
Medium Heavy Gamma Armor all locations (6)): (16 CP, 8 SP, 4 tons) (96, 24 tons)
Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
FRAME TOTAL: 179 CP, 63.5 tons
Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Anti-Theft code lock+ (.4 cp), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Stereo (.1 cp),
Armamant:
Torso Reactive Shield: 15 SP, -2 DA, Reset 0, Cost 134.5 CP, 1 space (44.5 CP space efficiency), 1 ton (?)
Torso Heat Ray: 6k, Range 1000m, WA+1, Variable (Anti-missile), Wide angle: hex (75m radius), 1 space, 72.6 CP (24 CP of space efficiency, 1 ton (fragile)
Thrusters & Speed: 1500m+100m+300m = 1900m x1.5(hybrid) = 2850m per turn in flight, 11 thrusters per wing, 12 thrusters per leg, 10 in head, 17 in Torso, 74 CP
464.1 CP, 65.5 tons
72 CP of weight efficiency
536.1 CP, 29.5 tons (-2 mv, -2 (fighter form))
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>>1124368
whoops I fucked up the thruster calc, I was trying different forms on to see which gave the highest MA and forgot to remove the avian bonus.
should be 1600 x 1.5 = 2400m or 48 MA
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>>1124244
Si,ply that. To live. Live for your survival, live for your family, live for revenge, or even live to experience all that life has to offer. There is no deep meaning to it. So long as you live and understand what your path will take you. If you want to eat babies, expect people are going to hunt you down for doing so. If you wish to live for your family, understand there will be rough patches and you will not see eye to eye. Through your own actions and merit, find meaning for yourself and live.
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>>1124368
If make it a fighter and give it a 15 CP 500 point +50 booster pack it can hit 114 MA for 10 turns

109 MA is escape velocity.

huh I guess another thing you could do is make a bare bones mecharider with a +100 booster pack to make a mech shuttle...
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>>1124395
Hmmmm....
>Through your own actions and merit, find meaning for yourself and live.
In the end it always come to that...
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>>1124533
Nigga there's no great mystery to life. No grand plan. The fact we can ask 'why' in the first place is an accident of nature. The only answer to The Question we will ever find is the one we make for ourselves.
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>>1124324
I saw this and thought of you BR.
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>>1124605
I disagree... But I'm happy to hear the opinion of usual strangers on the internet about it, thanks guys.

>>1124616
Huhhh... What does a level 23 Megaten monster has to do with me?
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>>1124616
My sides...
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>>1124639
You're welcome.
Praise the Lady
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>>1126175
....what...just...no... I like that sort of outfit usually bit not on this idiot
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Well, with how things are going down, I think we need to figure out how to handle the 4 of them. We find out who did what before hand and then take them all to the debriefing. Hear their side, talk about the good points(praise when they do their jobs, not when they don't), and then show the footage we got from the person who rushed in to protect the civilians and town. Hear their reason why for that. If they try and say it's for PR, start showing them the images from the Dam if our power armor had cams on them. Explain very carefully that by falsifying information that could very well be out there right now, they have likely made it so the REAL threat is considered a fake(They lied about the attack so maybe they lied about the greenman?). Which is very much possible considering the nature of what we seen. Not only that, but they went against orders to attack the civillians, risked their fellows, and put us in a tough situation due to it. Worse case scenario, 5 SOUL pilots would have been down due to this, and the final defense against a very real threat to humanity(and that's ALL of humanity) could be crippled. Because genemodded catgirl, pinkhaired normal girl, or even Avalonian, this greenman wanted to do the worst things possible to the lot of us.

For Jesus, we need to have the talk about that mission he gloats about. A flick of the wrist could have killed him, and we need to cut this shit at the source.
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>>1126222
But its the virgin killer.
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>>1126245
Things I want to see

>Jesus die
>Lysa go berserk because of said death
>Lysa dying because she went berserk
>Fairchild losing it because her propaganda machines bit the dust
>Stern killing Fairchild
>Cabot gets booted because Fairchild isn't there to keep her up
>Roarke kills Cabot
>Green Lady takes to the field in response to half her paladins dying/getting captured
>Hakim kills the Green Lady
>Roarke unifies the Belt
>Roarke lives happily
>Roarke is killed and his kids decide to kill the killer
>Master Asia, somehow still alive after all this time
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>>1126288
I'd rather get SOUL in of itself to turn on Fairchild and Cabot due to them pretty much committing high treason. Then Stern can have SOUL back. As is though, we need Jesus alive. He's probably one of few pilots who has a gun with a high enough Kills to it to likely penetrate the Gerin's shield, and Garret would be better as crowd control.
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>>1126332
I never said this needed to start right now. And besides, if worst comes to worst, I'm sure just glassing whatever surface the Gerin is on with one of the warships would suffice. Sure he can dodge, but I don't really give a damn about saving this planet anymore. Fucking giant underground treeshroom thing.
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>>1126347
I'd rather save it myself. The sins of the Father of Qu'lir do not fall on the cat people of Qu'lir. They were manipulated and treated poorly on all sides with each side wanting to either convert, treat them like slaves, or front line infantry. Pushed to such lengths, it's no wonder Four Ears gave in so willingly. As is though, Amos is probably as close as possible to making this a full on win for Jupiter not just in terms of ace and assets dealt with, but by securing at the very least, a alliance with the Planet.
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>>1126361
I'm not saying it's the cat people's fault.

This planet has a rotten heart in it. Gotta carve it out. A few extra craters won't hurt.
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>>1126383
Less the heart and more the brain. We know exactly the part we need to lobotomized, we just need to deal with the Gerin first so we can properly preform the final operation.
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>>1126395
It's too stupid to be a brain.
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>>1126400
You know, you say that, but if life had taught me anything, it's that even the smartest minds in the world can be dumb as hell. The greenmen hit that part pretty hard and fast.
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Is it wrong if I want to see Caesar turn the tide of the upcoming battle in the Swordfish? Just imagine him swooping in from nowhere to impale the Gerin on his lance. The amount of REEEE from Avalon and the Green Man will shake the stars.
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>>1126675
That sounds pretty epic actually.
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>>1126675
i want it!
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>>1126675
Seconding this.
It gets even better if the father decides to turns his shields down and get into the fight... Only to get wrecked by everyone turning on him at the same time.
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>>1126675
Is there really a need to? We have a solid plan, solid suppport, and a solid machine. I don't mind the brotherly assist, but it just feels like kill stealing for him to take the glory away at the peak. Besides, I want to give the Greenlady something new to scare them and have the Father scream Amos' name in his death throes.
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On a very different note, what's a good way of determining a Mecha quest MC's combat specialties without recreating Roarke's unusual specialization?
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>>1127490
There are 5 mecha combat skills. Piloting, which you roll defensively, Melee which covers weapons and shields, Gunnery which controls beam weapons and solid projectiles, Missles which is self explanatory, and Brawl which covers hand to hand.
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>>1127490
Wong just asked people to pick between two specializations or have one really good one.
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>>1127512
Yeah, I know that. My thing was, I don't want people to try to recreate Roarke when I run my quest because that would be tacky. I'm thinking I'll give them the options of "Training Packages." Like:

>Tactical: +2 Gunnery, +2 Melee, +2 Brawl

>Pointman: +3 Melee, +2 Brawl, +1 Gunnery

>Marksman: +3 Gunnery, +1 Melee, +2 Brawl

Pilot is handled separately.

>>1127537
That's one thing I'm considering too.
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>>1127576
Would we be starting as a fresh faced recruit? If so why not use the same method Mekton lays out?
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>>1127590
I'm thinking it'll be handled via flashbacks as the MC should be a veteran at the beginning of the quest. The packages are basically condensing the Professions down into one vote instead of several.
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How many hits does the the average person have?
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>>1127686
If you assuming they have a Body of 6, head has 6, torso has 12 and limbs have 9.
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What are the bare minimum skills you need to fly a mech and shoot a gun? Like disregarding being able to do anything else what would you need? Piloting and Gunnery?
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>>1127746
Yep. Awareness is required for Initiative though.
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>>1127808
And for seeing cloaky things and such.
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Does the ASP include a Target Analyzer base or is that just this quest?
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>>1127808
Bugger. Well its still cheap to add on. I put together something I was thinking about since Amos cleared out the dam. http://pastebin.com/a9GjcqvL
The idea is that it can be carried in a mechs storage compartment and then deployed to act as fire support/meat shield if the pilot has to get out of the mech and fight someone. I had planned for a more traditional roadstriker but storage compartments are smaller than I expected.
I wonder is internal automation even something that is usable in this quest?
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>>1127841
Pretty sure you still need to buy a target analyzer in this quest.
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>>1127841
both are separate. We had to buy one at a time. Honestly, it was a good investment.
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>>1127851
>>1127847
My bad.

Well, the base form of this Ace Custom gets both.

How much did the original Kaiser cost again? I remember it being around 200 CP.
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>>1127869
140 when we first got it iirc
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>>1126175
>design a meme sweater
>have it cold and immodest and therefore everything a sweater isn't supposed to be

The whole genius behind girls in sweaters is that it's this modest garment and her boobs are still big enough to show up in it. This is more than a meme garment, it's a travesty. Call me when women are wearing virgin killers in real life and then I'll reconsider.
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>>1127933
Is that not a dude?
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>>1127933
That's the point dude. It's a meme sweater. It's not meant to be actually practical or worn on a cold day.
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>>1127885
Huh. The one I just made comes out to about 217CP, but that's with Weapons, which are liable to change based on Player choices.
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>>1128076
It all honestly depends how advanced your universe is. I mean in our second generation a base mech will most likely be around 200 or so.
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>>1128092
Actually, I'm taking that into account with stuff like Weight and Space Inefficiency too but I think I'll follow the Guidelines that Wong has setup so far. Most Line Mechs will be under 120 CP, Elite Grunts between 120 and 140 and most Ace Customs will be between 140 and 200.

Oh, and Without Weapons and Weight Efficiency, this Unnamed Ace Custom is only 129.5 CP and 42 Tons. All around Mediumweight with an ASP, Target Analyzer, 12 MA and some standard Options.
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>>1128092
Not going to lie, alongside the Steelhead and Masu(who's gun I can never be happy with), I may be trying to make a Not-Huckebein. Looks like something a more level headed Jesus spawn would use.
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>>1128158
Ooh, saving that for one of the possible appearances for the MCs Mech. The other ones are the Cherudim and the Jesta.
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>>1128164
The Huckebein is a fine mech. One of SRW's first not-a-gundams, it had such fun toys, like a graviton rifle, remote bream chakram and the black-hole cannon. Problem was the things power core was both strong and unstable. In Mekton terms, it'd be a hot overcharged power plant.
The Steelhead is based on this fellow and is full of fun things I made while testing AP missiles.
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>>1128178
What I'm curious about and feel free to call me a retard.
Doesn't overheating cores be it in anime or an rpg system take into account the coldness of space?
I mean yes depending on how close you are to a star it could be millions of degrees or as cold as -270 degrees Celcius.
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>>1128178
Honestly, I'm just going for style with the mech portraits.

I'll probably make energy weapons in general pretty rare. Beam weaponry is just unreasonably good.
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>>1128164
Personally I like the Barzam II design (even if I can't find a large picture of the design.) It even has a pseudo Gundam V.

>>1128226
Eh, energy weapons are cheap and takes little space. They don't get the ammo bonuses projectile weapons do.
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>>1128211
You need to take into account that space is also a near total vacuum. Without an atmosphere, the heat can't dissipate. It can only radiate to things it's touching, which is generally the mech's important internal components, in this case.
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>>1128211
Well, a thing to consider is just because it's cold outside does not mean a house with a bad furnace won't burn down from the inside. 'Hot' plants run the gambit of unstable particles, experimental systems, and cutting corners so they are not just overheating. In the example I gave, the Black Hole engine was incredibly unstable. When one of two Huckebeins experienced an error, it took it, and the moon facility it was testing on in the fallout.
There are plenty of other complications that can happen with an engine in such a cold environment anyways.
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>>1128233
>Barzam II

Eh, I'm ambivalent towards the Barzam series in general. I'm a sucker for the blocky yet slim designs of the GM series and variants.

>Eh, energy weapons are cheap and takes little space. They don't get the ammo bonuses projectile weapons do.

Decent energy weapons cost a fair bit more simply because you need to buy space efficiency as well.

SP guns are cheaper and customizable, but they also require more bookkeeping, which is a pain.
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>>1128211
I'm just surprised I haven't seen a system that weaponizes that excess heat.
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>>1128236
Well shit that's risky as fuck

>>1128237
Well shit my britches that sounds horrifying.

>>1128261
I imagine it could almost be something like Archimedes' Death Ray.

Also as a theoretical discussion

If Roarke had access to the ZERO System, how well do you think he'd be able to handle such a thing?
Granted the ZERO system is somewhat similar to the HMIS system in that it interfaces the pilot with their mech

>For those who don't know much about the ZERO System http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/ZERO_System
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>>1128257
What they are really good for is burst explosive ammo for truely gratuitous overlapping explosive damage
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>>1128257
Maybe it's just influence or whatever, I just love all the A.O.Z. Reboot designs even if I'm not a fan of the high heel feet they all have though. No mass produced mech will ever beat the Gelgoog in my heart though.

>they also require more bookkeeping, which is a pain
I can't stand it either. It's pretty easy and quick now that I've learned it, but I have to keep track of so many values at a time, and just the though of having to go back and forth to find out what I can and can't fit is terrifying.
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>>1128271
Oh I just finished watching Gundam Wing, hmm the weird ass future visions would be annoying, the fact that we tend to do solo fights might help prevent friendly fire if the system causes roarke to go berserk...

eh the people who managed to use the ZERO system effectively were... Heero, Quatre did it once as a strategist power-up, Zechs did it... and technically Dorothy used it with no ill effects to direct the mobile dolls in the final battle even though she's not a pilot...

I think roarke would be ok or would be able to use it after more training with master asia.
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>Zero system
If anything we're probably using Hyper mode
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>>1128316
>"It's over Roarke, I've got a whole army of Slayers under my command and there is nothing you can do to stop me-wait, why are you glowing gol-"
And that is how Cabot died.
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>>1128330
then when its the green lady's turn we do the thing that Domon and Rain used to finish devil gundam but with all of our waifus rather than just one.
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>>1128330
>>1128316
>Hyper mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfCq1wMmn4g
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>>1128339
Thats a lot of Burger kings.
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>>1128351
>Not posting the dub
Come on anon It's 2015+2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8oNZmtKa6U
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>>1128339
I'm more partial to Hell and Heaven:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnVlcBXpTtc
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>>1128360
Oda would lovingly call it
'SUPER SAIYOJIN ANIKI!'
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Any news on G being in SRW V?
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>>1128390
Not that I know of. Cross ange, huckebein, and Crossbone gundam are in alongside the Yamato though.
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>>1128383

Until his wife hits him in the back of the head with a paper fan saying "Baka! That is a Hyper Mode."
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>>1128397
He doesn't have a wife...yet.
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>>1128316
I doubt the Black Ogre's final form will be God Gundam. Genesic Gaogaigar is more his style.
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>>1128396
>Cross ange
why tho?
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>>1128419
Because with Seed in it, you might as well line up the bitches for some proper bright slaps.
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>>1128426
When are we going to run into Bright anyway?
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>>1128426
ah right... wasn't there one sequence in those games where fucking shinji of all people bright slaps someone? I swear someone mentioned that in one of these threads.
That reminds me I need to get these games...
where do I even start?
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>>1128440
That would be Alpha 3 I believe. A lot of the games are mostly untranslated, so you will have to make due. If you have a ps4 or vita, you can try getting the new one which has a english version. Or the GBA OG 1 and 2 which are also english.
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>>1128447
well then, guess I'll look for those. I can read a little japanese but i'm rusty as all hell and still sucked at kaniji even before getting rusty.
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>>1128447
>>1128455

Those summaries in Moon Dwellers aren't that great. There's entire sections that are just untranslated video's of the games and none of the names are translated on the slides so its a very confusing. But thats about what you can expect for a translated game.
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>>1118641
First, your hands can cost only 1.5CP instead of 2CP... I know that you guys like to round up spaces, but some of your enemies are using ATM rules to have hands costing even 0.75CP, so you may want to do the same.
Second, Your AMS cost 3.4 and weights 0.8ton, this make a difference because it will make weight efficiency 1CP cheaper than 1ton would.
Third, Your final weight is 40.3ton if I'm not mistaken, not 37.5tons.
Fourth, You rifle total spaces should be "Weapon CP cost+ base ammo cost" so 8.6 Spaces, not 21Spaces, what makes your weapon cost 22.8CP not 29CP.

Thursters continue to be okay, though.

This leaves you with a 133,2CP mech even before changing your hands.

I reccomend buying weight efficiency or changing your estoc for EMW... And then spending the rest on Thursters or Missiles... Or maybe even making your rifle better.
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>>1128459
Some are really good. The translation for Front Mission 5 is godlike, for instance, even if the translator had to word a couple lines weirdly because of the limited text space. They're in the vast minority though.
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Rolling Thunder and Excalibur are in the list now:
>Waiting for M-Sagister final form.
>Waiting for the next interaction of the Gyrfalcon
>Revising the Libra later this night if I don't fall asleep.
>...
>Giving a final look on the F-Type if I have energy after all this.

Is there anyone else who needs to get their mech on the list or would like to actualize something?

I may do a final look at everything tomorrow...
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>>1128497
http://pastebin.com/sR0KhwEu
this should be the final form of the M-Sagiser
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>>1128505
oh wait, I think I've got the calc on the talons wrong... should they be 4 CP instead of 5?
eh not like it really matters I can't think of what to do with 4 extra CP right now...
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>>1128459
Not much you can do if you can't read moon runes. Lots of translation teams have been working on the series, but considering the nature of the copy rights, bringing them over to the west directly is impossible.
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>>1128525
I get it, it just sucks. Like the main SRW games would be easier since I would know most of the characters so I would just have to piece the plot together instead of a bunch of oc's I never heard of.
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>>1128536
Well, there is a plus side to it. Due to the success of the english version, if the english version for V sells well, we may see them do that for possible remasters. Would be nice to see a Alpha series pack in english, even if it's engrish.
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Sorry for the delays, minor technical difficulties.
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>>1128591
when does V come out?

I'm really hoping I enjoy these games since my usual go-to series are kinda... becoming worse and/or ending.
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>>1128602
No worries. Just having some comfy discussion. What SRW games would you like to see in English Wong?
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>>1128602
Didn't we tell you last session, Wong? You've gotta plug in and turn on the microwave to cook your frozen tendies.
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>>1128602
You can't put refrigerator magnets on your computer Wong it screws it up
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>>1128609
Feb 22nd if I recall if it's not out already. If you like strategy games, it's a pretty good staple. They stick to their roots, but experiment enough that there is plenty of variety.
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>>1128629
should be good then I used to play a lot of strategy games.
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You're silent for some moments. You're quite confident in yourself, and in your mech. If you had to, you think you could take her down and bring her in, you've already devised a plan to negate her stealth advantage even if it would undoubtedly cause a forest fire in the process, and in a straight-up fight you're confident that as good as the Betta is it's not a match for the Delphinius' greater size, speed, power, and ranged options. The real worry is that she could easily take another hostage, it bothers you more than a little that the only voice you heard over the comms from the Three Black Stars was Lara's. However, she doesn't seem hostile. If disliking Keith was a crime, a lot of people would be in the brig by now, and if she wanted to take out the entire group it makes no sense to target Keith first instead of you. On top of that, she's made some good points, even if she's a bit short on actual proof. You accept.

You hear what might just be a sigh of relief over the comms. If that's really Corporal Samantha Blanchett, she's more experienced than you and probably had some of the same sense of how a fight would go.

“I'm just glad you're not here for Major Cabot.” You joke.

“Who?” She responds, sounding puzzled, “That's...” You can practically hear her thinking, “Some aide of the General's, isn't it? Pretty, large chest, dark hair, brought in from the extrasolar division following some scandal so hushed-up even I don't know about it. She's just there for armcandy value, isn't she? I'm not interested in girls at all, and Roarke is too cute to cheat on even if I was.” She laughs softly.

“Well, uh, no. Actually...” You hesitate a moment.

>[Tell her Cabot killed Admiral Starwind's brother]
>[Don't tell her, who knows what might happened?]
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Yes, that's a vote on something you guys already voted on. There's ramifications to this question either way, so I want you to be sure of your choice.

>>1128611

All of them. I don't speak Japanese, so I was forced to resort to an LP of the one I tried to study (plus the anime, which I need to finish), and it's hard to stay focused on a screenshot LP of a game where mecha blow each other up. However, that LP led me to Xabungle and King Gainer, so it definitely wasn't a loss in the slightest.
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>>1128665
>>[Tell her Cabot killed Admiral Starwind's brother]
She hates us for standing up to her and she had no problem socking Garret. Fuck her she deserves it.
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>>1128665
>Tell her Cabot killed Admiral Starwind's brother
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>>1128616

Actually what happened was my pizza got delivered to the other address they had in their system, so a relative ended up with free pizza and I ended up waiting a long time for dinner.
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>>1128665
>[Tell her Cabot killed Admiral Starwind's brother]
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>>1128665
Whooo boy. In character this is tricky. We have no love for Cabot and her actions would have made the dam even worse. If she gave word to the tri-stars to do this for Pr.. well, no love. Still, this is something we should be smart about.
Deflect to get her number, then send it through private channels. We are giving her the rope, she just needs to dig a bit to turn that rope into Cabot's noose.
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>>1128665
>>[Tell her Cabot killed Admiral Starwind's brother
Keks to infinity
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>>1128497
Is it possible to, in your own time, you could just erase the Excalibur portion of the name? Just leave it as Ulfberht please.

>>1128665
I'm too scared to vote on this, Lady knows the repercussions and I don't want to partly responsible.
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>1128665
Still can't decide. Rolling for it.
>1 Yes
>2 No
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>>1128665
>>[Tell her Cabot killed Admiral Starwind's brother]
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>>1128665
>Arm candy? Certainly, but she'said also Fairchild's favorite attack dog. If Fairchild is dirty, odds are Cabot is the one doing the dirty work.
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>>1128665

>[Tell her Cabot killed Admiral Starwind's brother]
>She's major bad mojo. Unless you have the Black Ogre or someone with similar skill, don't engage her.
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>>1128605
No
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>>1128755
Meant to quote
>>1128665
I really fucking hate this phone
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>>1128665
Obviously we are taking precautions so that the terrible trio don't see it right?
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>>1128505
>Hey here is the final version!
>>1128523
>Oh wait, I was mistaken again! Let me do another!
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>>1128705
>>1128665
Short form of my thing, yes but not in a obvious way. Treat it like we simply did not know. "Yeah, MAJOR cabot has caused some trouble. Harmed my friend and has been acting off. Felt weird how she was so good with that blade of hers and she only takes orders from Fairchild." It's a infraction, but it's one where we don't know the 'full deal' to the average person. It may save our butts in the short term.
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>>1128665
Are we sure about this? I don't remember having real evidence of this...

Maybe we should imply?
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>>1128800
if i remember correctly, we have anecdotal evidences from different colonels.
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>>1128665
Why would she think that Cabot is mere arm candy? Darth Idol already spilled the beans, we're just confirmation from a more trustworthy source.
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>>1128665
>[Tell her Cabot killed Admiral Starwind's brother]
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>>1128819
>Why would she think that Cabot is mere arm candy?

Because she's hot, seduces people, and officially just an aide?
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>>1128855
7/10, Fairchild could get better.
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>>1128779

Yes. You're on short-range communications systems.

>>1128800

Colonel Trevor Luxol, Garret's big brother and Luther Luxol's elder son, told you directly when he was discussing the Percheron.
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>>1128879
That's my waifu you're insulting (Beatrix I mean, Cabot can go fuck herself).
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>>1128665
"Wait, you don't know? I thought Starwind would have been after her head after..." Trail off, see if we can get some kind of concession out of her before sharing the info.
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>>1128891
Then a pop of Jesus' com wire and it's all good.
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>>1128916
6/10 that information makes her worse.
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>>1128891
>>1128665
>[We already told her that Cabot killed Admiral Starwind's brother without even hesitating.]
Why are you even asking this?
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>>1128922
Okay.
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>>1128935
>making lewd faces at your husbando's sister

Awful.
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>>1128997
She was doing it to troll him though.
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>>1129010
So I see she earned the fate that comes to her.
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You gather up Keith's prone mech, remove its head entirely, and start crushing it. It's going to be difficult to communicate with him, but this keeps him from overhearing or recording it, “I'm pretty sure she's Fairchild's bodyguard or attack dog. She's vicious in a way your average secretary isn't. She attacked a friend of mine, probably would have drawn her sword on both of us if another officer hadn't stepped in, and according to one of the higher-ups she ruined any chance of a formal alliance with the Iron Kestrels when she executed Cassius Starwind without authorization. She's a lot more dangerous than you think.”

For a long minute, there's silence over the comms, then an incredulous sound, “What? General Fairchild's aide killed Triple-C? You're sure? Oh gods, this explains so much.”

“I'm positive, unless I was being lied to for some reason.” You hesitate, then add, “You didn't hear this from me. I kind of thought you already knew. Honestly, with your mech I thought it was pretty likely you came here to assassinate her.”

There's a sound of muffled shock and frustration, “I almost wish you hadn't told me. Roarke is...Roarke is going to kill her. He wouldn't send an assassin, not for someone who hurt his family. You didn't see what he did to the original S-Slayer, or to Commodore Abujamal on Mars. On the other hand, if this is something the upper brass knows, then we DO have proof that General Fairchild was behind the Green Skulls. On Auditorium, when they fought, Roarke recorded the whole thing. Every last boast, and the First Mate bragged about killing him. This...this...why does everyone close to this woman have to be completely insane!?”

“This isn't enough.” You tell her, “She'll say you edited the audio logs.”

[Continued]
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She growls, and there's a sound of dainty hands facepalming against a pilot suit's helmet, “Yes, of course she will. It won't help when she arrives at Auditorium and my husband punches this woman so hard it unseats her skull. Damn it, I wanted our wedding day to be happy, he deserves that. Before you ask, no, I can't hide this from him, in case he didn't know the specifics. I don't do that. Besides, with how he's been lately, I think he might have known. Before we left, he was debating sending a message to the General telling her to make sure she brought along people to handle things like payment and paperwork, I thought it was just standard, but...he knew. He was oddly specific. He must have known somehow.”

Light years away, Lysa Fleur sneezes delicately in the middle of an argument with Red Siren about the design of their concert costumes.

“I thought you were assigned to SOUL from Intelligence?” You quip.

“I was.” She replies, “My only chance to stop this from turning into a bloodbath is to calm him down immediately.”

“You think you can talk him out of killing her?” You ask.

“No. I absolutely can't, and I shouldn't. There's a time and a place, though.” She impales Keith's Warmouth's head on a pilebunker as you toss it through the air like a discus, momentarily breaking cloak before she becomes invisible again, “The New Year concert slash summit slash wedding slash tournament is not the right time to murder Fairchild's secretary. She already wants his hide on her wall for...existing, I think, she's had it in from him even before he stole the Butcher from her.” She wails again, “Oh no, I forgot about her, she's going to ENCOURAGE him! This is awful, what do I do!?” Poor little Samantha.

[Continued]
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>>1129053
Depends. VN version always loses because she tries to do the right or heroic thing, which fucks her up because grimderp and realpolitik. Like Iris's route, where she sacrifices most of her Werewolves and throws the victory to the rebels to uphold her bargain with Iris (despite Schmidt promising to make things very painful for her for defying his orders), or Lise's route, where she rescues Theo and then later stays behind to cover for her men's retreat (setting her up for Theo to execute his plan and betray her when no one is looking). She's probably the most evil in Katia's route, but even there, she attempts to funnel fighting to outside of Berlin.

Anime version is a shit though and deserved to die, and that's the version that Bethany is based off of.

>>1129099
Shit's on now.
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>>1128794
the issue doesn't matter, take the mech as it is. (essentially I think I might be spending an extra 2 CP, but at this point I don't care.)
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>>1129144
Nah, its okay man, do as many interactions as you need, its not like you're forcing me to do it, so don't worry... I know the type to stop and rest between mechs.

I will probably take a long break after the touney though, as I'm a little tired of revising so many weapons.
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>>1129184
basically I just need confirmation on how spaces are calculated for melee weapons... is it spaces = cost or 1/2 cost?
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>>1129197
The cost is like anything else. 1 CP=1 space. To remove a space, you need 0.5 cp per space. So a weapon that is too big by 3 spaces needs 1.5 cp.
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>>1129197
Feet doesn't take up spaces though.
And before you start getting crazy about them being OP, remember that they get penalty to WA if I'm not mistaken.
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Question: What's CUSS stand for again? Something "United Solar/Star Systems"?
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>>1129219
Confederacy of United Star Systems I believe.
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>>1129217
standard feet, but let's not try and make overly fancy feet. As for the WA penalty, feet can only use kicks. So unless you are kicking their shins, you are taking a penalty to hit.
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>>1129208
oh ok then may numbers are all in order, had the talons sets as 4k melee weapons (2 cp base) that were AP (x2) and Quick (x2) and since their mounted on the feet they count as clumsy (x0.5, -2 land MA) giving me a final CP of 4 with 4 spaces, I then spent 1 CP of space efficiency(per talon) to drop each talon to 2 spaces.
Perfect, everything is in order.

>>1129217
>>1129224
Whats the hit penalty for kicks? either way I'm kicking 4 times in one action so I'll probably hit at least 1 of them.
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>>1129247
Wheel which hits the torso is a -1. Crescent which is the arms and head is a -2. However, each action only gives you 2 rolls. If you manage to hit properly, you hit twice. Likewise, if the enemy is ranged, you are going to have a bad time.
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>>1129247
Page 98 of the corebook.
It seems that it depends on which servo you're targetting.
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>>1129247
You kick twice, not four times. If you HIT, you hit twice.
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>>1129290
He has hideously overpowered quick feet.
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>>1129290
Twice per action.
And he has 2 actions in a row.
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>>1129290

...What? Page number, please, unless you're talking about a specific mech with weapon-linked feet.
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>>1129298
>specific mech with weapon-linked feet.
this, don't worry.
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>>1129298
Didn't know they were quick, sorry.
I'll actually read the technical stuff next time instead of wanting to get back to Age of Wonders.
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>>1129298
A specific mech with weapon linked feet. He built them using the ATM after some talk about how to build custom feet.
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>>1129316
yeah in the end I just statted them like regular weapons just with the clumsy modifier to lower cost.
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Sorry again for the delays, my brother is over here and we're admiring my new Anti-AntiFa device.
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Light years away, former Lieutenant Alice Clementine Farragut is suddenly in a really good mood and doesn't know why. She attributes it entirely to her general sense of well-being, her friendship with l'il buddy Karen, who she promptly hugs, and the fact that her wedding day is coming up.

“I'm sure the Butcher will try to talk him out of murdering UJCIDF personnel in cold blood and will tell him to take it to the proper authorities.” You reply as straight-faced as you can, thankful that vidcomms aren't on and you're communicating through voice only. You have a lot less sympathy for Cabot than most.

“That's an awful joke, sir. A really, really bad one.” She groans, “For all of her faults, she and Triple-C were friends. If she gets in the way of Roarke killing Major Cabot, it will be because she puts a knife in the Major's eye herself. That's not your problem, though. I'll deal with this. You just focus on the Avalonian threat. We're counting on you, Lieutenant.”

“We?” You ask, skeptically.

“Everyone in the Solar System, and in the Milky Way galaxy at large, who wants to see Avalon lose and the Green Men destroyed. Don't let the General turn you into something you're not.” You don't need to see her face to know she has a sad little smile, “We'll see you at the final battle!” There's a ruffle of wind across the trees, and she's gone.

Keith's mech stirs and starts to sit up as you land the Mantas. It gesticulates wildly. You use your PC to call him, as much as it might be annoying to talk to him you do have his contact information, “Ensign, what's your status?”

“What happened, sir? There was a flash, and then...”

You shake the S-Delphinius' head, “You were jumped by the enemy. I drove it off.”

Much to your surprise, that doesn't satisfy him, “Is there something you're not telling me?” It's not really a question, he doesn't sound unsure at all about that.

“Sometimes, Ensign, a little bit of talking goes a long way.” You inform him.

“Talking to the enemy isn't a good idea, sir.” He replies.

“When it saves the lives of my subordinates, it is.” You elbow-nudge his mech, “Besides, there are people out there besides us who aren't fans of Avalon.”

“Who?” He sounds indignant.

“Pick someone, Ensign.” You reply, “If we do our jobs right, you can pick anyone in this whole damned galaxy and they'll choose us over the Greenies. Now let's go, we have girls to rescue.”

[Continued in an hour so Wong can eat]
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>>1129411
>“Talking to the enemy isn't a good idea, sir.”
You know, I thought Jesus was just misguided and manipulated into sucking as much shit as he does. But now that he's said that while going on about "everyone can understand each other" I'm now convinced he's just a retard.
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>>1129406
A what now device?
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>>1129460
Anti-anti-facist. Those weird red and black wearing buggers who were rioting and setting fire to a camput because some right winged speaker was going to have a talk.
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>>1129460

It's a device that keeps violent domestic terrorists away.
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>>1129477
>>1129505
Oh yeah that whole mess, protests here in Australia are way more monitored by police than what it seems America does, good luck with that.
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>>1129510

Well, so far, they've been sticking entirely to areas where the local authorities are on their side and can order the police not to interfere. At the first sign of police aggression, they "miraculously" turn into "peaceful protesters", chant BLM slogans, and stick to waving their signs instead of starting fires and attacking elderly veterans, homosexuals, women, and anyone who hasn't donned a black ski mask. In case they're bold or foolish enough to leave their safe spaces, I have purchased a device more portable than my other hooligan-removal devices, if you take my meaning.

Let's all hope Californianon is safe, I worry about him.
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>>1129531
I'm worried about him too, didn't he said something about having to move to other city or something?
I hope he is well...
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>>1129531
I'm glad I live in rural Georgia. Everyone stupid enough to do stuff like that are either the ghetto trash in Atlanta, stupid College kids that are too scared to, or are too high off their ass on heroin.
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>>1129505
Huh, can you give us the details or are you being monitored by the CIA?
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>>1129531
did you install a mine field?
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>>1129531
It's honestly a dumb situation. The places where they are most violent are the places where non violence and actual peaceful measures help. I mean, bloody hell, they are attacking the places that make MORE of them! It doesn't make any sense strategically.
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>>1129531
I live in DC. We tend to worry a lot more about Republicans in congress fucking with our city government for shits and giggles.
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>>1129566
Ayyyy fellow Georgia Bro.
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>>1129571

If the government doesn't know about my S&W MP 9 after I posted a picture of it on /k/ in a handgun thread then they won't know about it here, I was being coy to be funny.

>>1129582

Don't give me ideas.

>>1129585

It's the kiddy mindset, "if I break my stuff someone will fix it for me or buy me new stuff and pat me on the head to calm my tantrum down." They can't do anything besides temporarily delay Trump and make him angry, so they vent by destroying things and attacking people. If you live somewhere you can have a gun, buy a gun. Be polite, follow the law, and stay safe.
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>>1129610
I'm so sorry you have to live here.
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>>1129585
mobs tend to attract people who enjoy mob violence. people who see them and dislike their methods of "protesting" stay out of the way. usually the only way to stop them is to become them or wait for the police to do something.
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>>1129620
maybe some claymores for when they get too close to your doors?
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>>1129531
>>1129562
>>1129566
>>1129585
>>1129595
>>1129610
>>1129634
>>1129636
That pain I feel for my Ameribro's
>mfw
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>>1129620
Aye, I live in a ruralish border town, so most gatherings of them end with them on the ground after pissing off one of the many blue collars who work here. Still, it's a mindset that always struck me as silly. They fear a theoretical demon to the point of making it reality and have done a good job at that. They throw everything at it, and now people are not going to trust them. Still a good 8 years of this too.
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>>1129595
It could be worse.
Some weeks ago a private jet with one high ranking government member just "fell" from the sky.
Because this guy had a list of over 70 very powerfull people involved in a corruption scandal.
...And now they have to choose a new judge for the case, as there were no survivors of the crash, obviously.
When the population heard about this, most people didn't even questioned "What if it was an assasination?"
We just wondered "Wow, who did that one?"

"Protesting" here already become the norm, political assasination is the new fad now!
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>>1129683
/pol/'s going to have good salt harvest for the future. disregarding the shills of course
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>>1129595

I forget, was it in DC where the mayor ordered the police not to interfere and let rioters line the route to a Trump rally? I seem to remember people suckerpunching pregnant women. If so, I'm sorry, nothing against you personally but I have no sympathy for public officials that fail to discharge their duties to the people.

Although the House Oversight Committee joking about absorbing DC into one of the states was a bit mean-spirited.

>>1129685
>political assasination is the new fad now!

Plane crashes have happened to a dozen or so people whose lives became inconvenient to Bill and Hillary Clinton. It still happens here.
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>>1129685
Why does this plane crash sound so familiar?
Did it have CIA?
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>>1129685
Also, some druglords shot down a police heli from out of the sky a few months ago... I don't remember if I told you guys that one.
It was exactly close to my home... But it wasn't that far from it either.
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>>1129702
>I forget, was it in DC where the mayor ordered the police not to interfere and let rioters line the route to a Trump rally?
Nope. Listen to an actual new site, not shit like Breibart.
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>>1129620
Stay safe Wong
It would be a tragic loss for all of us if something happened to you
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>>1129714
but anon, there are no actual news sites anymore.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbKGjRoSofA

Here you go, lads. Have some halftime entertainment. Sorry it's a bit slow, but we're sort of cleaning up the scraps before Amos gets his murder on.
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>>1129714
>trusting any news outlet
They're all sensationalism and political agendas. We're all fucked.
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>>1129695
Everyone is getting a good salt harvest. Buggers were trying to set themselves up as the new nobility and made it so they had to inject their rhetoric into everything. I'd like to get a hold of good stories and games that haven't had them run their mitts on them like new age neon haired soccer moms.
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>>1129222
Thanks.

Unrelated Note: Female Mecha pilot art is comes with a lot of baggage.
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>>1129718

I'm in Ohio. It's a pretty safe place to be, especially outside the limits of the nearest big city, but the mayor there recently declared "Cincinnati is a sanctuary city!" I expect riots might occur when it's defunded, but I'm more worried about family who lives and works there than I am about my own life.
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>>1129720
No, the mainstream media does a pretty good job. A bit too focused on even-handedness to people who really don't deserve it, but overall the Washington Post and the like frequently criticize democrats when they have it coming. The WaPo spent the past 8 years slamming Obama's political clusterfuck in the middle east.
Now their articles claim that attempting to deligitimize the judiciary when it rules against you is completely inappropriate for the president to do. Which to be fair is absolutely true. Donald Trump needs to stop trying to intimidate judges, or Congress needs to impeach him.
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>>1129685
>>1129710
Man BR you stay safe too dude
Man all I have to deal with is this freak snow storm that started Thursday
And that our Government just announced they where going back on their campaign promise for electoral reforms
Oh Prime Minister Centerfold
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>>1129743
Should die down soon hopefully. Things have been pretty quite where I am consider how big Clinton won in my district.
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>>1129743
I live near a college campus and from the local paper put out, a bunch of students did attend a protest, but it was apparently something about the University taking away student control over extracurricular budgets.
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>>1129743
Holy shit. I'm in that area too.
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>>1129761
yeah Elo, we're the lucky ones.I just hope he somehow gets held accountable on that promise
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>>1129766
I don't think it will die down. Trump seems largely incapable of accepting the idea of a legitimate opposition. He'll keep pushing, and people will keep pushing back. And if he actually implements his economic agenda he'll wreck the entire economy. Automation killed manufacturing jobs, not trade. And killing trade won't bring it back.
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>>1129759
>No, the mainstream media does a pretty good job.

You had me going for a good minute there, you rascal!
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>>1129820
I'm dead serious.
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>>1129820
We probably live less than half an hour from each other. Go figure.
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>>1129805
I like how he's trying to spin it as America is causing unstablelity and now it would be a irresponsible to go through that change until things calm down
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>>1129827
Then you must be watching some alternate universe's media. They have been incredibly left leaning for the last year. Poll numbers were skewed and anyone who had said Trump had a chance of winning was laughed at or 'suddenly' disconnected. They have done everything in their power to silence dissent while pushing for a ton of shit when they did lose. They are biased and unethical, no matter how you try and slice it.
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>>1129861
No, they misread the poll numbers, which were well within the standard margin of error. They were statistically illiterate, not biased. Several websites warned them repeatedly that they were doing this, but they do this constantly. Just ask any statistician or scientist who has to listen to them talk about their field of expertise.
The Mainstream media is somewhat left leaning but generally tries to acknowledge its baises and stay objective. It does not always succeed.
The right wing sites flat out make shit up constantly.
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>>1129695
Day of the Rope, right?
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>>1129807

Hollywood and paid protesters from out of state are not legitimate opposition. Trump will do exactly what he promised to do, what his voters elected him to do, and any adult children that want to keep assaulting his supporters and destroying property are going to get slapped with felony rioting charges, which carry a ten-year prison sentence.

>>1129827

The moment CNN colluded with the Clinton campaign it was done as a legitimate news organization. The moment the handful of companies that own the vast majority of media in this country decided that they were a power center rather than servants of the public with the simple purpose of delivering news, they too became illegitimate. Donald Trump crushed the Republicans, smashed the corruption of the Bushes and the Christies, and forced the remaining snakes to bow the knee. Now, he is doing the same to the Democrats, and they wail with rage because they have been ASSURED that they are both morally inassailable and that their victory is a scientific inevitability. If you're serious, despite the harm your party has done to people I care about and the country I love, I'm not angry at you...I just feel bad for you. It's going to be a disappointing eight years, especially if you really, truly think congress will impeach Trump when he's beaten the Democrats to the point where the most they can do is delay his LEGAL right to manage immigration as he sees fit. I don't blame you for your views, the fact is that the news was once fair and reliable, and it suddenly turning its hand comes as a shock to most people, but mainstream news sources are good only as entertainment these days.

As for the people, every act of terrorism, every riot, pushes more people to his side and not all the skewed polls in the world will do a thing to stop it, and all the Soroses and Clintons in the world are helpless.

>>1129846

What town?
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>>1129900
Blue Ash, 30 minutes or so north
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>>1129900
Hey Wong, is a Thought Control system as outlined in the ATF a possibility in setting?
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>>1129883

They undersampled independents heavily, undersampled Republicans less heavily, oversampled Democrats heavily, and then weighted it using Obama's numbers. Members of the Clinton campaign even alluded to certain polls belonging to them. Others were conducted by proxies for Hillary's backers. Still others were just poorly done to the point where the average channer could see through them, which makes seasoned political journalists missing the changing of the tide so hideously incompetent that Occam's Razor suggests culpability rather than a sudden case of "everyone became stupid at once".

They literally asked the DNC for debate questions to give the Republicans and ran their questions through the Clinton campaign for approval...not just shared the questions in advance, ran them BY THE CAMPAIGN FOR APPROVAL...prior to debates. Were you unaware of this?
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>>1129900
And I feel pretty much the same about you. The mainstream media is largely reliable. Your views are simply the results of a long campaign by right wing news outlits to deligitimize their competitors for their personal gain.
Fortunetly, simple demographics will inevitably screw over the coalition that Donald has established, and I just hope that we have an economy and international standing left by the time that republicans get their well deserved comeuppance.
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... can we get back to trimming Quilir's lawn now?
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>>1129900
If the Republicans hold onto power until 2020, then they can pretty much redistrict the Democratic party out of existence.
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>>1129883
What standards are you thinking? Every poll leading to the election from MSM sources were saying Clinton would dominate and the exact opposite occured. Some claiming there was only a 5% chance of winning. They were even caught ON SCREEN giving answers to the people they were asking questions to after the debates. Things like the Podesta leaks, the missing emails, and the general shadyness found through various non msm news sources were not given a look and then they deemed anything non msm fake news.
That is biased as all hell.
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>>1129925

Oh, it's a lot less than thirty minutes.


>>1129928

Are you asking for your game, or for mine?

In mine, it hasn't come up at all yet. The HMIS is thought-control-ish already, but doesn't provide those same benefits. Similarly I entirely ignore Environmental systems because it's a given that mecha can operate in space.
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>>1129939
>They literally asked the DNC for debate questions to give the Republicans and ran their questions through the Clinton campaign for approval...not just shared the questions in advance, ran them BY THE CAMPAIGN FOR APPROVAL...prior to debates. Were you unaware of this?
I've read that and that is a complete and total mischaritarisation of what actually happened. To the point of it being outright fraud. Again, read an actual new site. WaPo, CBN CNN NBC, Times. Whatever. Hell even the Wall Street Journal is acceptable.
>>1129956
538. They explain things excellently from and educated statistical perspective
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>>1129968
>Wall Street Journal
leagues better than WaPo and CNN
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>>1129961
This is kinda blowing my mind a little bit
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>>1129942
I'd like them to fix the government instead of cutting it more, but it seems like most of the country is liking the idea of states over union right now. Just shows how divided we've become.
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>>1129961
This quest. It probably won't be a thing for a while in mine, although I did create a "Mind Machine Interface System" which provides certain bonuses.

I ask because it seems like something that would be possible, considering the existence of the HMIS and it seems, to me, that it's a legitimate way to upgrade the Kaiser.
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>>1129972
Its very right leaning, but it has actual journalistic standards that I acknowledge.
>>1129967
No, Just tired of the QM constantly going off on political rants. If he wants to do that I'll rant right back.
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>>1129942
>Fortunetly, simple demographics will inevitably screw over the coalition that Donald has established

As I said, you were promised inevitability and it was not delivered. Donald Trump's coalition involves the backbone groups of both parties, if they somehow get bred out of existence it won't matter what standing America has because America will be gone. If the white working class and industrial class vanishes, the name and the flag don't matter.

> Your views are simply the results of a long campaign by right wing news outlits to deligitimize their competitors for their personal gain.

Barry Goldwater. Robert Bork. The tactics the Democrats employed this time are the last two arrows they had in their quiver. They're done. You can quote Obama blaming Fox News playing in bars until the cows come home, but the globalists on the right were slaughtered just as hard as the globalists on the left. It's a done ideology. Nationalism won, and it will keep winning.

>economy and international standing.

Because paying people who hate us to pretend to like us was surely of great benefit to the common man, clearly.
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If the thread is just going to devolve into arguments, can I just say that "Knuckle Kaiser" is a terrible name and everyone who voted for it should be ashamed. I'm glad that it's widely known as the Black Ogre and can only hope that is the only name history will remember it by.
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>>1130007
Winning the national popular vote 6 of the last 7 times is pretty good. Republicans are hanging on due to structural quirks and persistent abuse of the democratic system. You're right, the nationalists won this round. Unfortunately, Donald has promised things that are physically impossible to deliver. We'll see what happens when he doesn't magically "restore" manufacturing. Which would be hard due to how automation has allowed manufacturing to continue to climb as jobs have shed. We aren't going back to the good old days where factories employ half the country. It simply can't be done.

>Because paying people who hate us to pretend to like us was surely of great benefit to the common man, clearly.
Oh, I'm not talking about the middle east. I'm talking about Europe, Australia, Japan, Mexico. Our actual Allies that Donald Trump is pissing off.
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>>1129954

Considering the seats up for grabs in 2018 I predict a lot of blue dogs being put to sleep, especially if the policy of "resist Trump no matter what" remains the dogma. Personally, I hope they learn to compromise, as a certain Hawaiian congresswoman has done. Actual, principled opposition must drive out the corrupt machine that drives the Democratic party for it to grow and thrive, but for that to happen they must release their grip on identity politics and acknowledge that progressivism is a more dangerous cancer than the right's Moral Majority ever was.

>>1129968

Fake News and Nate Tin? Please.

>>1129977

Loveland represent.

>>1129972

The problem is that it would have more credibility if the old left versus right paradigm was still intact. It's not. It's become a question of "America first" versus "America for the world", and WSJ is run by and appeals to globalists on the right, what /pol/ has labeled "cuckservatives".
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>>1130045
>these are the words of a man who has never been punched in the face

Can we really trust such a nancy boi?
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>>1130045
what would you have called it?
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>>1130051
>popular vote

800,000 illegal votes caught without touching California, the state that won Clinton the popular vote. Why? Because California's policy is never to inquire about residency status. Fake news.

>Trump can't bring jobs back

And yet he's already doing it. Hang on to your hat, it's going to be a fun ride.
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>>1130054
>Fake News and Nate Tin? Please.
He was calling all the major news outlets for statistical illiteracy before the election. What more do you want? I read the Wall street journal and watch fox news because even though I disagree with their slant I refuse to hide in a cardboard box. Read some contrarian publications and think.
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>>1130054
>Nate Tin
wasn't it made even lower than that? Tin is useful
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>>1130045
I don't think Knuckle Kaiser is a bad name but Black Ogre IS much better.
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Very unrelated question: What's a good site that has a lot of Anime character art?
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>>1130045
I'm not crazy about it but it sounds good enough when yelled out. Black Ogre is cooler though.

>>1130084
Rule 34
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“...You know what, sir? You're right, I apologize. Sometimes, when you think about what's happening, it's hard to keep it all in perspective, and you start wanting to treat everyone like the Green Men. We really should try to understand these people. I guess I just lost faith for a moment.” The Ensign remarks.

“That's it, Jesus. You're learning. Like with Captain Clearwater, you should try to understand his feelings, too. For some people, the old ways are easier, more reliable. You might even be wrong about ranged weapons being the future, human technology and society doesn't ALWAYS follow predictable patterns.” You point out.

“Thank you, sir. You're absolutely right. I'd like to apologize, too, I guess I've been pretty arrogant.” He sounds mildly abashed.

“Yes, but you're only human. We all are.” You reply, “Alright, I see the Bettas, let's get a look at the damage.”

Up close, it's easy to see why only Lara responded. Her mech is missing a leg, which has been strapped to her mech's chest to save repair time when it gets back to base, but she's not in it. She's sitting with her sisters, who have been laid out on the ground. Lyra is just now starting to sit up, rubbing her head, and the third Fleur remains out cold.

[Continued]
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>>1130089
I probably should have specified non-lewd character art.
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>>1130003
Most of 4chan is either apolitical or very conservative. I'd wager that its due to our contrarian nature combined with getting caught up in the cultural crossfire of the sjw types.

>>1130054
>Nationalism won, and it will keep winning.
I don't like globalism, but I'm not a big fan of nationalism either. It's too often become the tool of the rich to force the peasants into wars to steal wealth from other countries. Both systems favor the rich and hurt the common man, just one leads to a global elite and the other leads to regional elites.

>>1130054
Why compromise? Republicans own it all, and can get anything they want. They even have enough to call a constitutional convention if they could get all the Rs on board with it. Also, 2018 has more Democrat seats up then Republican seats.
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>>1130084
Danbooru or safebooru
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>>1130082
I just feel that Black Ogre is a bit generic.

It's big and black. Okay. It can be used interchangeably with every other big and black mecha. KK is a bit more specific and themed. Much less liable to be thrown on any other mecha.

They're still both great.
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>>1130091
HE'S BEEN SPORED THE FUNGUS FROM THE DEAD PALADIN GOD THING GOT HIM SOMETHING'S WRONG EVERYONE PANIC.
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>>1130089
Danbooru and Safebooru like the other anon said
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>>1130074
>800,000 illegal votes caught without touching California, the state that won Clinton the popular vote. Why? Because California's policy is never to inquire about residency status. Fake news.
See. That simply isn't true. There is ZERO evidence of widespread voter fraud at all. There is however plenty of evidence that most recent actions to supposedly prevent voter fraud is meant to help republicans. Source: republicans keep getting caught saying so.
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>>1130098
>>1130084
Pixiv, which is where the boorus get 95% of their art anyways.
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>>1130091
>“Thank you, sir. You're absolutely right. I'd like to apologize, too, I guess I've been pretty arrogant.” He sounds mildly abashed.

Did those shocks fix his brain or something?
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>>1130103
Got the same feeling anon. That was a really abrupt change and showing of understanding, couldn't have been Jesus.
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>>1130091
Well, it's no bright slap, but it seems that enough voltage to knock him out was enough to knock some sense into him.
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>>1130077

He was calling them out for being too blatant. The fact that you think WSJ and Fox News have any better understanding of what happened than the lefty media shows the whole problem with your thinking. Fox News was never right either, they were just the first to adapt and bend the knee because it served their purposes.

>contrarian publications

You mean the ones you accused of lying? Nate Silver was calling people out for saying Trump had a 0% chance, but he still failed to see what was actually going on, and the actual numbers he gave proved it. If he was a competent statistician, then you should distrust him even more for lying to you.
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>>1130150
>If he was a competent statistician, then you should distrust him even more for lying to you.
He said that it was within a standard polling error before hand. A standard polling error did happen, and Trump won. How the hell does that make him a lie? News flash, if his model says Hillary will win 65% of the time given this data, and then Trump won that sure as hell doesn't mean that he was lying to me. That's not how statistics works.
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>>1130103
>>1130127

Jesus has Empathy 10, he's also a stubborn asshole with a proud streak a mile wide and a sense of moral infallibility. Look at how his attitude towards Amos has changed ever since Amos headbutted Bethany and stopped being Fairchild's probable new catspaw. On his own, without Lysa, he'd be a bit prone to berserk rages, and not having her around has made him a bit less...himself...than usual.
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>>1130170
So Jesus is Neverland too, why am I not suprised
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Jesus christ can we please move on from political bullshit already.

I just come here for awesome mechs and character interaction, not shitposting form /pol/
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>>1130170
You'd think making your own decisions without the shitty songbird in his ear would make him more himself.

Are you saying he's a puppet?

Is Jesus a bit being controlled by Lysa?

I cracked your code, Wong.
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>>1130127
Honestly, it is probably the best spot for Jesus to learn some respect. He was bashing something constantly and we warned him that his sort of thinking can cause problem. Due to that, he was taken out without a thought and could have been killed. Considering his previous experiences with Commanding Officers, we have been rough, but pretty fair. Even giving consideration to his advice.
We answered him honestly, we confirmed our duty is to stop greenmen and save humanity. We even talked it out with our foe to protect him and his fellows. Attitude aside, this has probably opened his eyes a bit.
>>1130170
There is also this. Love can make you really stupid if you aren't careful.
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>>1130193
>this has probably opened his eyes a bit.

Until the next time he opens his stupid fucking mouth at least.
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You land, and pop the cockpit hatch, riding your liftwire to the ground, “Any injuries?”

Lyanna chooses this moment to roll over and throw up. It's not her best or more ladylike moment, and Lyra woozily pats her on the back as she empties her stomach into the tall, saw-edged grass, holding her pigtails out of the way. Lara salutes, “None, sir, the others should be ready to fly again shortly.”

You look around, “What happened to them?” Hell, Keith didn't react this badly to being shocked unconscious.

Lara is still saluting, “I'm afraid we screwed up, LT. We received a distress flare en route to your position. A young woman who said she'd had her terrain buggy hijacked by what sounded like Qu'liri insurgency remnants. We took it seriously, she was very persuasive and she had a pretty good story. I can't pretend any of us weren't taken in, sir. We took her information, and...”

“She was cuuuuute...it's not faaaaair...” Lyanna wails.

“Especially Lyanna.” Lara admits, “And Lyra...Lyra is...”

“Is following your lead from now on, big sis. Don't worry.” Lyra sounds a little bit sulky, keeping her words to a minimum.

Lara's shoulders droop, “It's my fault, she offered us coffee and the girls were pretty slugged out from flying all night. I'd had a nap while they carried my mech, so I was better off and didn't think anything of it, I only had a few sips. We got back in our mecha and...”

“I can't believe we got drugged!” Lyanna wails, “What kind of galaxy is this where you can't trust a girl with black lipstick!? It's not fair! It's not right!”

“...And once she was well out of sight we all got pretty shaky, even me. We were able to land, it was kind of slow-acting, and I got the girls out and made them throw it up, whatever it was.” Lara looks as if she wishes she could fall into a hole and pull it in behind her.

“That's what you get for not following the regulations. Trusting local fare? You're lucky you weren't all taken prisoner!” Keith scolds them. Damn it, he's STILL himself.

[Continued]
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>>1130256
>>1130226
Well you got me there. Gods damn it Jesus.
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>>1130256
>“That's what you get for not following the regulations. Trusting local fare? You're lucky you weren't all taken prisoner!” Keith scolds them. Damn it, he's STILL himself.

Well, most military officers would probably react much the same way towards their subordinates, but probably after getting them medical assistance.
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>>1130256
>“She was cuuuuute...it's not faaaaair...” Lyanna wails.

>how to be a retard: Exhibit 12

Remember, just because it is attractive is no reason to abandon common sense.

Looking at you, Thunder. And all the namefags, really. Fuck it, I'm looking at all y'all thirsty niggas.
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>>1130295
But I like traps...
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>>1130279

She doesn't use it on Roarke (aside from the obvious), but Samantha has excellent social stats and leverages them in a way the other social-waifus don't. There's a reason why Clemmy feels so threatened by her despite being a better pilot and a better fencer.
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>>1130295
What's wrong with liking cute people?
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>>1130295
im asexual thank you very much!
i don't care for being thirsty!
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>>1130295
I can only get hard at 4chan roleplay.
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>>1130343
Well, I have a new ID now. I'm >>1130103
Why the people that built my house added a light switch that turns of the one outlet I can plug my wifi router into, I'll never know.
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“Shut up, Keith.” All three girls say simultaneously in perfect eerie unity.

“My unblemished sword that smites evil.” Lyra bats her eyelashes at him.

His face turns red, “If Lysa was here...”

“She's not, though.” Lyanna seems a little bit bolstered from her misery by having someone to pick on, “O stalwart shield against wickedness.”

“Brave hero of a new age!” Lyra presses the back of her hand against her forehead and pretends to swoon, “Oh whatever would we do without you?”

You look questioningly at Lara.

Lara shrugs, “These are all things Lysa actually calls him, sir. As her younger sisters we are obligated to give him shit, sir. I accept full responsibility, sir.” She salutes yet again.

“O sweet little Jeezy-weezy~” Lyanna twists her mouth into an exagerratedly cute expression, then chugs water from a canteen and spits it into the ditch, wiping her mouth with a grimace.

“I was going to offer you all first aid, but if you're well enough to pick on Ensign Young, you're clearly in no real danger.” You cross your arms. You're not happy with them right now, no, you're not happy at all, and you won't be distracted by this display.

Jesus' face reddens and his arms tremble with anger for a moment, but then...his expression clears, and he sighs, then smiles, “I understand, you miss her too, don't you? It's not fair that she wasn't allowed to come here, and I know that she misses us too. I can't be mad at any of you.”

“We'll be ready to fly again in a few, sir. Thanks for the pickup. We've all sustained damage to our mecha, but mine is the only one that's taken a serious wound.” Lara makes a strained smile. She's still saluting.

“At ease. Please. I'm glad all three of you are alright, but make sure you get a medical inspection when we get back to the Dam.” You stare her down, trying to imagine the cheerful, pink-haired girl shooting civilians.

“We're alright, sir, I promise. Please, just let us go back to combat duty, you'll need every SOUL pilot for Ford's army.” Lara states.

[Continued]
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>>1130361
Those are Lamp plugs installed in houses before ceiling fixtures became big.
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>>1130295
Not my fault Roarke's a sexual deviant who not also is a polygamist, but a man who sodimizes another man
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>>1130382
Are we going to bring up them trying to burn civilians alive?

>>1130385
I suppose that makes sense, it is in the master bedroom. The house does have ceiling fans and hanging lights though.
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>>1130417

Yes, it's just taking a few posts because Amos is being circumspect.
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>>1130424
Cool, just making sure.
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>>1130395
Actually it kind of is. Since you contribute an impossibly high number of 10s to the seduction rolls and apparently have no control over your id.

Just saying.
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>>1130395
What does gender or sexual equipment have to do with making sweet, sweet love to cute people?
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>>1130443
it doesnt
gender is irrelevant to a happy relationship
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“I'll think about it. How were your mecha damaged?” Just coming out and accusing them is no good. It would raise too many questions. You hate intrigue, normally, but this time you have to be subtle.

“We were...distracted, sir. A lone enemy mech came out of nowhere, it hit us with some kind of electrical weapon. We were able to shrug it off without much trouble, but mine got hit at a bad angle and the leg got ripped off.” Lara does her best to keep her eyes on you, “None of us got a good look at it, but it was a rapier-type weapon of some kind, so Avalonian origin is likely.”

Keith glances sidelong at you. You look at him and shake your head just a tiny fraction. Lara bites her lower lip ever so slightly.

“I'm sorry we failed you, sir...” Her shoulders droop, “I...we hoped...we were doing a great job against the Knights, but...”

You pat her on the head, it seems like the right thing to do, “Why were you distracted?”

Lyra shrinks behind Lyanna, who hugs her and pats her on the back.

Lara's expression firms up, and she salutes again, “Enemy fire, sir.”

“There are Knights this far ahead of Ford's advance? They must have built faster ones.” You're trying to be subtle, but your voice comes out flat and hard, and you see her flinch slightly.

“Anti-mech fire, sir. There were insurgents in one of the villages, shooting missiles at us from the rooftops.” She replies, keeping her voice even, “One lucky hit and the Three Black Stars could have been two, or less. We had to respond, sir.”

“I'm sure the ASP recording will vindicate you.” You reply, looking her straight in the eye, “The Captains and I will be reviewing it when we return to base.”

She takes a deep breath, then says quickly, “That won't be possible, sir. I'm afraid the electrical discharge from the enemy mech's rapiers had an adverse affect on our ASPs and recording devices, they've been slagged.”

>[What say?]
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>>1130475
>we'll take a look when we get back to base anyway
on a side note, someones shooting at something with a full auto or something near my house
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>>1130492
Murica
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>>1130475
>"I'll call ahead to Captains and have them ready some mechanics to check that out as soon as we get back. We'd need whatever information we can get on an Avalonian stealth mech."
Make them go deeper and deeper into the lie. They'll slip up eventually.
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>>1130475
>I guess we'll have to ask the technicians as soon as we get back what they can recover from them, if anything. I can take care of that while you three get medical attention.
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>>1130475
>well lets take a look then? wont we?
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>>1122212

I almost missed this post. Three of those people are SOUL, and General Coop is a special case.
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>>1130512
Second this
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>>1130475
Fascinating. You see, we ALSO ran into something that used an electric technique. Jesus here felt it himself and it certainly tapped me. Visuals seemed to work fine and if I take a look, my data recording should be fine. Judging by the looks of your heads, the most this person could have done is a tap to you as well. So MY ASP is fine, but yours is missing data on your mission and we seemed to have faced a similar opponent.
Am I understanding this right?
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>>1130510
must be hunting a skinwalker or something
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>>1130512
This seems like a good Prod
Though I'm no sure we want to give them a chance to delete anything before we can get there mecha to someone back at base to check
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>>1130512
They never said it was a stealth mech, just that it came out of nowhere.

Let them dig themselves into saying it is either stealth or that they simply weren't paying enough attention and are incompetent.
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>>1130549

It didn't tap you though, and as a group some of you insistent that Keith not be able to record your conversation with Samantha while unconscious, so you destroyed his ASP yourself.
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>>1130574
It had to be a stealth mech though. They have sensors and the only way to avoid those is to be a stealth mech.
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>>1130584
Yes, but you want them to say the magic word. If they say stealth we have very reasonable cause to check out their recordings. If they don't they sound incapable as fuck.

It's about being subtle.
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>>1130510

Wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Actually, this judicial precedent is great, because now we just have to find a Texas judge to declare a nation-wide injunction against all infringements of the Second Amendment and then watch the DoJ not appeal it.

Full auto for everyone. Nationwide constitutional carry recognized in all states. Stop this uncontitutional ban on peaceful immigrant guns today.

Pic related.
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>>1130591
No, it sneaking up on them all but says it's a stealth mech. Their sensors should at least have a 7km range, there's no way they wouldn't have noticed it moving towards if it wasn't stealth.
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>>1130475
> well, lets hope there's something worth salvaging. You feeling ok Lyra?
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>>1130584
>>1130591

Don't forget that Keith's damaged mech is right there. It's not like you can hide that you saw it. If you try to spin this with that particular argument it might look bad on you too.
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>>1130579
Fair enough. That point is invalid then.
>>1130584
But the only stealth mechs are Jovian. Bettas are a big deal because they are stealth.
Still, the fact remains that they can be checked for electrical damage to their asp systems. Irina should have a lot of knowledge on them, and I assume they are designed to be pretty sturdy. As sturdy as sensors. So, if their ASP is slagged, so should their sensors. Their regular sensors.
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Since the Betta-Mp's are all Soul mechs that means Irina will be the one to check them when we return correct?
We can always ask her to give us a detailed status report on them when we return to base
including if the girls deleted there sensor logs on the wag back or if something shorted them out...
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>>1130614
As an aside, our Delphinus should still have the recordings of it's dynamic entry of the Dam, right? That means it should see the monster the tree, and what we did to it. Hell, did our Power armor had cams on it? I think the girls need to see what we have been dealing with before they continue their lies.
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>>1130615
>rage meme
Well guess I lost. Infallible argument there.
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>>1130613
I'm just trying to bust their balls. Mainly because we know its bullshit, and they're going to figure out that we know it's bullshit. Because Amos cannot into intrigue.
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Is this the face of a gun that doesn't want to peacefully coexist?

End the ban.
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>>1130295
The only waifu I have is Grapple-chan, thank you very much.

>>1130316
Did you mean to reply to someone else?
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>>1130643
Stop stop I'm already dead!
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>>1130395
Most of that stuff IS your fault.
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I fucking love you guys. Even the ones who watch CNN.
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>>1130650
No one gets out as easily as dying.

Spoiler
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>>1130667
I love you too. Even if you gave my magnum opus to Iok.
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>>1130685

Do you want to know what Lieutenant Rabban actually pilots? If so, have a click. If you'd rather keep the suspense, don't click. If you do click, put your response in spoilers for those who would rather not see it.
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>>1130667
Love you too
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>>1130713
Oohhh why do you do this. I want to see it, but I don't want to.
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>>1130713
Now thats a blast from the past
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>>1130713
Okay but where are the balls?
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>>1130721
Best show on Toonami when i was a kid
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>>1130749
G Gundam for me still my favorite Gundam by far
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>>1130713
Shit taste. Saber Tiger or bust
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>>1130713
Ooo so we're going there are we? Loved the show when I was a kid.
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“I'll call ahead and have mechanics standing by when we get back. Any information we can get from the systems is useful.” You look her directly in the eye, “After all, this is a mech that managed to sneak up on our stealth squad, if the Avalonians have cloaking technology I want to know about it.”

Lara glances away, “I see Keith ran into it too, didn't he? Poor him, people always seem to aim for the head with his mecha.”

Lyanna snickers, Lyra does not. Keith glances at you sharply, but for once holds his tongue.

“Ensign Young was unlucky, but thanks to his presence I probably avoided becoming a casualty.” You remark, which only makes Keith's gaze sharper, “I'm glad the three of you aren't hurt, and I hope the damage isn't severe. I'm glad I can count on you, Lara.” No, even with Keith's judgmental stare, you yourself can't just verbally knife her, you have to ask, “The town with the insurgents, were there any civilian casualties?”

Her voice drops to a whisper, “Sir, please...I...I can't say for sure.” She lowers her head, her lower lip quivering, “W-with permission, sir, may we get underway? It's best for SOUL if our mecha are fixed before Ford arrives.”

>[Allow it]
>[Continue to grill her...if so, what say?]
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>>1130772
>>[Allow it]
She gets the message
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>>1130771

Look at it this way. A bog-standard mechabeast might be about as close to its real-world inspiration as the Big Dog robot is to an actual mastiff, but if you're a wealthy Martian it's not uncommon to make it much more ornate. This doesn't mean it's ubiquitous, though, Fatima thinks tanks on their own are cute for example and the Ahmads could buy and sell the Rabbans several times over.
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>>1130772
>>[Allow it]
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>>1130772
>Allow it
I think we've heard all we needed to hear.
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>>1130772
>>[Allow it]
we can have Irina and her technicians confirm the status of there recorders when we get back
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>>1130772
>>[Continue to grill her...if so, what say?]
I can understand that and that is why we can continue and talk about the situation as we go. Still, I need to understand the situation that happened before making the report. Civilians being harmed is something we cannot abide by. After all, our duty is to protect them. If the enemy is melee based, then the damage shouldn't be bad, correct?
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>>1130772
>were there any civilian casualties?
>it's a simple yes or no question
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>>1130793
Getting the message means nothing if they still do it. At the very least, I want them to explain their actions. Does not help that I am not good at subtle, and Keith looks ready to blow at everyone for lying.
>>1130844
I can get by that. It's an important question and they simply cannot dodge it. After all, guilt can work quite well to make her talk.
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“Make it so.” You instruct her, and she salutes quickly and dashes off towards her mech, her sisters trailing her. You see Lara scrub her forearm across her eyes as she fumbles for her liftwire.

Ensign Young clears his throat, “Sir...”

“What now?” You snap, unable to help being irritated.

He hesitates, then says quietly, “You were lying to them, sir.”

You look at him without saying a single word, and just wait.

“They were lying to you too.” He watches the girls mount up in their machines, “I hate it, the fact that people have to hurt each other with lies this way. That said, I understand why you did it. I even think I understand what happened with that mech that attacked us. For just a moment, when it was behind me, I knew it was there. The sensation was familiar, like it was a pilot I'd flown with before.”

He doesn't get a single goddamn word from you still. You continue looking him in the eye, and waiting.

“It was Lyra.” He says simply, “Lyanna was too upset, at first, over being tricked, there wasn't any guilt in her. If it was Lara, she would have just told you, sir. Lyra, though, Lyra was acting like she does after Lysa scolds her, sulking. Lara put herself in the way to distract you and try to take as much of the responsibility as she could, and when Lyanna realized it her body language changed, and she became protective of Lyra. Did you notice she moved between you and Lyra?”

You consider him for another moment, “Very perceptive, Ensign.” You don't know them nearly as well as he does, but he seems very sure of himself.

He shakes his head, “Lyra has always been a bit unstable. If the others failed to keep her in line...” His voice trails off.

>[Tell him the truth about what actually happened with Samantha]
>[Lie to him/say nothing]
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>>1130798
Liger Zero when? Also are these kinds of mechs a common sight among martians? I'd love to see more of these.
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>>1130897
>>[Lie to him/say nothing]
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>>1130897
>Say nothing
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>>1130897
>>[Tell him the truth about what actually happened with Samantha]
At the very least tell him why the mech attacked. He'll find out and he's going to be pressuring us. We should at least be the one honest man in this whole damn thing.
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>>1130897
"You should hold onto your suspicions for now, Ensign Young. We're not exactly in friendly territory."
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>>1130897
He already knows we talked to Sam, so why not just say the mech attacked because they were burning the village down?
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Keep in mind the Kestrels might be showing up during the final Qu'lir fight.

>>1130844
>>1130875

Normally I'd take that as a given, but when you're fighting insurgents sometimes the line between civilian and enemy combatant is really, really unclear, and you can't always tell from a glance whether you just destroyed an enemy stronghold or a civilian refuge.
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>>1130897
>[Both and nothing]
Let him go on about his theory... Then tell him that the pilot was one of ours from inteligence that dislike him because of things on the past... Don't mention names, let him keep to his guesses.

Then ask him about what happened that day on the scavvies colony.
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>>1130897
>say nothing
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>>1130897
>[Tell him the truth about what actually happened with Samantha]

It getting to be far more obvious to me that Lysa is subject 33 and Lyra is likely subject 48.
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>>1130913
>>1130920
Can you at least explain why? He is going to blow at them on his own, and as is we do need answers about this.
>>1130935
Then we may as well be honest. Like we said before, all of humanity is going to side with us on this. Keeping this hidden will make him not trust us. When the time comes, as much as I hate to admit it, I'd rather Jesus fight with us against Cabot than against us.
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>>1130897
>>1130942
>>[Both and nothing]
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>>1130667
I love you too Wong, and everyone of this crazy bastards and namefags who keeps this amazing quest going week after week.
>>1130447
It depends on the type of relationship you want to have or is trying to have... Some things WILL go in a different way because of biological reasons...

>>1130395
See >>1130655

>>1130295
Nah... IRL I'm the type of "wait until marriage".
...It doesn't mean that I don't ave desires sometimes, but I don't really act on it.

>>1130059
This is why the Kestrels/Avalonian faction is the best faction.

>>1130045
No, its pretty cool, and Black Ogre is kinda generic even if it ends being more fitting or whatever.
Having both was the best conclusion.
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>>1130972
this works
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>>1130998
>but I don't really act on it.

>he says after obsessing over keeping Lori

pls.
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>>1130942
Isn't directly segueing into this incredibly suspicious though? He's already trying to piece it all together. He may be arrogant, but he's not dumb and I don't want him turning on us and going to Fairchild.
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>>1131023
Link it to Wong"s post.

>>1131030
I wasn't even here when Thunder seduced her, I just think that at this point we have gone too far already with her and having her around may be beneficial to both.
But I have my doubts about it and wouldn't bet everything into it.

>>1131038
No, if we say it like we were testing him to see how far we could guess what happened before opening up to him the most we could... It would imply that we could have stayed mute about this but choose to tell him what we could anyway.
And by wording sam as "one of ours" and "from inteligence" would imply that anything said here was classified and out of his league.
And Keith takes this type of things too seriously.
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>>1131087
>I wasn't even here when Thunder seduced her,

Irrelevant. You wanted to keep her. Despite how logistically impossible it is unless we want to piss everyone off and keep her.
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>>1131097
Even the Duke implied that he wants it to happen or something...
And having a Paladin at our side could be incredibly advantageous, not only because of her mech, but also because of her knowledge and status.
Also, she really loves him.
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>>1131087
The dude has empathy 10 and saw that we were hiding shit without a problem. Kid is a walking lie/emotion detector. At the very least some honesty can be respected and trust begets trust.
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>>1131129
Yes, but could we trust Kieth not to divulge everything he hears to Fairchild?
He's not the greatest at keeping secrets or lying
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>>1131129
Sam IS "one of ours" as she is Jovian and cleary cares about SOUL.
Also, her training didn't changed and she is still working "for inteligence".
We're not lying to him, just wordings things as acceptable as possible and making he assume the rest.

The other option is telling too much to him or giving him no trust at all, what do you prefer?

And I doubt that he is going to open his mouth about griggspoint if he know that we heard that from a pirate, he will just try to hide the most he can because of "B-but Fairchild said..."
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>>1131126
>he wants Jovians to think Roarke is a Greenman sympathizer by association
>he wants MARTIANS to think Roarke is a Greenman sympathizer by association
>he wants the entire rest of Avalon minus Kitty-toe to hate Roarke because he wouldn't give back a paladin

bruh.
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>>1131144
Considering he has shown no love towards the pair, we are probably the only non lysa person who has shown some respect to his opinions. We also seem to be teaching him the important part of discretion.
>>1131151
Except the wording is pretty easy to imply and if he asks a question he can find out easily. Deflecting it will lead to him finding out. This is a case where honesty may do well.
This is probably the best situation for him to actually gain some morale character and realize that sometimes, orders and the right thing are not necessarily the same thing. I think he's on the edge on Fairchild as well.
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>>1131129
I agree, but the boy can't keep a secret to save his own life, much less ours.
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You start walking back towards your mech, “We're not exactly in friendly territory, there are some things I can't say.”

“I understand, sir.” He says, although he hesitates a little.

“So, if the others failed to keep Lyra in line, what then? You think she might have attacked the civilians unprovoked, or responded disproportionately to an attack?” You glance over your shoulder at him.

“It's possible, sir.” He responds, very neutrally.

“I agree. What would you have done if you, or some other ranking member of our forces acting covertly, was present and witnessed this?” Your voice is as calm as it can be.

“I suppose I would have tried to stop it, sir.” He replies.

“Exactly, Ensign. You understand perfectly.” You grab your liftwire, and ride it up to the cockpit of your mech. It's a long, solemn journey back to base.

Fortunately, there are enough spare parts to get the mecha repaired, you have time to spend the night with Irina and a bottle of vodka. When you wake up the next morning, you even have time to eat breakfast before the Scimitar scouts arrive, warning that Ford is almost here. The last battle for Qu'lir has finally begun.
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>>1131158
>he wants Jovians to think Roarke is a Greenman sympathizer by association
Even people in cannon already said that he is only keeping her because of... Well, she being a woman and he being Roarke Starwind.
I don't think that they will get much surprised if he decides on keeping her, if he prohibits her from going "PRAISE THE LADY" on them.
>he wants MARTIANS to think Roarke is a Greenman sympathizer by association
Because no muslim ever in all history of time had women taken from his enemies.
bruh.
>>he wants the entire rest of Avalon minus Kitty-toe to hate Roarke because he wouldn't give back a paladin
Kitty who? Their opinion will depend on the Paladin and what plans the Lady have in mind for them... But angering the lady to certain point isn't really important, because she will either try to use you or destroy you, and at this point she wouldn't give up on the chance of using him as a possible allied... So we can count on that for a while until she substitutes Lori.


Also, don't forget that Roarke never gives up on one of his waifus, and that giving up on her just because of her being a problem would be very strange when we already did very suicidal things for women before... That Martian raid could have gone very baddly if the Martians or the UJCIDF had been waiting for us on the way back.
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>>1131186
So... Thanks for running Wong, it was a blast, like always.

When is next session?
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>>1131216
>implying the Fairchild hate machine and the media won't start stirring up shit

>Because no muslim ever in all history of time had women taken from his enemies.

Because historically there are examples of 2/3rds of the population of the galaxy including countless planets being destroyed. And there isn't justifiable hatred the likes of which haven't been seen outside of the saltiest of neckbeards online here, but there is in the setting.

It's not like the space muslims hate the greenmen out of ideology. There is some grade-a planetary destruction grade hatred between Mars and the greenmen and it isn't as simple as "oh look, it's a woman" for some it'll be "FILTHY AVALONIAN WHORE CORRUPTING THE INNOCENT REEEEEEEEE".

Kitty-toe. Kirito. Duke Eustace Beauchamps whatever-the-fuck his full name is. But the rest of Avalon, which means the more pious paladins and probably most of the knights will not agree with a paladin being essentially kidnapped. Using common sense. Who gives a shit what the Lady thinks?

You guys are digging a hole with Lori. There is going to be anti-Roarke sentiment from all sides for keeping her. Whereas giving her to Mars or the Jovians will at least appease those two factions whilst only angering Avalon. There is going to be some amount of backlash from keeping a former paladin around, it's just a fact.
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I want to say Monday, but there's a chance I'll push it back to Tuesday depending on how much I get done. Right now I'm having that end-of-the-day's-game crash that makes it hard to think.
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>>1131255
Well then get some sleep and drop a post Tomorrow when you have a better Idea of when you can run again
Thanks for Running Wong
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>>1131255
Take care man. The battle against Ford is going to be fun.
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>>1131253
>But the rest of Avalon, which means the more pious paladins and probably most of the knights will not agree with a paladin being essentially kidnapped. Using common sense. Who gives a shit what the Lady thinks?

Depending on how Medieval Avalon is culturally they could consider what Roake is doing fairly normal and respectable. The phrase King's Ransom actually comes from roughly the same period. Knights getting captured and then ransomed back to their families was fairly standard operating procedure.
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>>1131253
I'm very tired today and I just want to sleep....

But before I go...

>implying the Fairchild hate machine and the media won't start stirring up shit
She will be dead soon enough and the next guys seems interesting in having Roarke around alive and keeping fear in the hearts of men.

>Who gives a shit what the Lady thinks?
Most Paladins, the Queen and everyone who cares about the queen.
And I'm almost sure that they have some sort of resolution to the case of a Paladin's love life getting in the way, or Loriette and the Duke wouldn't be so buddy-buddy at this point.

>There is going to be some amount of backlash from keeping a former paladin around, it's just a fact.
No so much as one would think, if what Luxol was implying means anything, both sides wants control of the Belt and aren't really keen in opening up a new front in the war when they are already warring on other systems... So both heads of state probably will not go so crazy just because of choice of waifu, as they have much to lose.

>>1131260
>>1131255
This, good night guys.
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>>1131330
>She will be dead soon enough
But she isn't dead now. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Damage done is not always easily undone.

>Most Paladins, the Queen and everyone who cares about the queen
Rhetorical question. I'm also fairly sure most paladins have love-lives that include fellow Avalonians, not foreigners.

>No so much as one would think
Temporary peace because of a bigger threat does not mean they suddenly give zero shits about every decision Roarke makes. Even if they don't decide we sided with Avalon and believe they are forced to fight us, that does not mean they will choose to let us remain as the self-imposed king of the belt. It is very likely there will be further conflict after the war with Avalon is over. Either between Mars and the Jovians, or either of them and the Belt.

Right now we have protection out of convenience of a war, you shouldn't rely on that because eventually it will end.

Regardless, have a good night you bleeding hearted bastard.

>>1131327
>the French
>being graceful or accepting
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Found a song for when we finally got Cabot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKLMYZlbIb8
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>>1131403
Speaking of music for cockpits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeUMCgZdEyU
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>>1131253
>Roarke
>Innocent

Pfft

>Avalonians
>Who gives a shit what the Lady thinks?

Pffft
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>>1129620
Also Is it Just me or do most terrorists and domestic terrorists Kinda suck at the whole making bombs thing?
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>>1129531
Man am I glad no one gives enough of a shit about anything to violently protest here.
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I just realized something as I was getting up this morning. Wong said earlier that this man is a general.
He will either be the biggest pain in our ass, or the best Jovian bro ever.
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>>1132077
Probably pain in the ass. What happens whenever Coop hears there is some big cool guy over there saying he is the strongest in the galaxy? He goes off to fight them thats what.
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>>1132111
yeah but after the fight I can see him hanging out and having a beer with the kestrels
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>>1131562
Compared to an actual Greenman? You bet your ass Roarke is innocent.

Rhetorical question, everyone knows there is only one group who actually cares about the Lady. Greenmen sympathizers. And that question wasn't directed at them but more towards the playerbase.

C'mon, Wong.
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>>1132404
>Compared to an actual Greenman? You bet your ass Roarke is innocent.
Lori isn't a greenman, she is a "Filthy greenman lover at most".

>everyone knows there is only one group who actually cares about the Lady. Greenmen sympathizers.
No... I understand from where you are coming from with this but it isn't completely true.
The thing is... Avalon didn't get involved in the war, and their founders got out of CUSS decades before the greenman even being created... So in their minds they don't see praising the lady and praising the greenman as the exact same thing, as they don't know any other example of greenman other than her and the stories she told them about her people.
So they aren't "Greenman sympathizers" in the way Greenman followers were in the war or in the way Jovians understand it, they just see the Lady as some sort of living godess.

A good example of this is how Elizabeth says that the Father "Isn't anything like the Lady!" and refuses to see him as a "god" even when he is a greenman like her godess.

>And that question wasn't directed at them but more towards the playerbase.
I can't speak for everyone, but I'm pretty sure that most of us doesn't really cares about her feelings but would care about what it could cause, as none of us wants an Avalonian flagship nuking Auditorium or something.

Also, even you said: ">he wants the entire rest of Avalon minus Kitty-toe to hate Roarke because he wouldn't give back a paladin" before, implying that you care about what they think... And as the Lady almost governs by proxy... You end up caring about what she thinks too.

And before I forget...
>A Pirate
>Innocent
Choose one
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>>1132624
Either way, the Auction has more than just Lori up for sale. Alongside Avalonian knights, data, blackmail, treasures from terra, privateering licenses and the like, there should be things that any of the the three parties will want which will help us remain neutral. The best case scenario is basically getting all 3 sides to agree that Lori stays out of the war and information is kept open on what she knows.
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>>1132690
Pretty sure that the best case Senario involves the Lady in the Woods passing away peacefully in her sleep, Fairchild getting caught and causing a massive scandal that causes Jovian interests to turn inward, and Hakim finding the perfect heir.
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>>1132695
I try not to daydream of the impossible. Still, if we can compile a case that Cabot is the first mate, we can likely pressure her during the auction in front of Mars and Avalon. Because last I check, that circlet that caused so much trouble was a greenman invention. Ending her prevents a viper from biting Jupiter's heel, and would remove a black stain that could hurt Mars relations.
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I've been kicking around an idea for a different version of Armor Piercing for Solid Melee Weapons. Basically, the weapon gets a certain AP "Value" that negates points of armor equal to that value. Cost is calculated as a multiplier with the formula of 1 + (.25 x APV).

So a 6K Melee Weapon with AP 2 (Cost Multiplier 1.5) would cost 4.5 CP.

Thoughts?
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>>1132812
Basing on how EMW works huh?
I like it, but don't forget to put those house rules in a pastebin.
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>>1132152
Yeah but at that point all our shit would be broken and we'd probably be on our way to space jail.
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>>1132835
Will do. Just wanted to get a second opinion.

This basically makes the real difference between Solid Melee and EMWs weight and structure. EMWs are lighter but more fragile than Solid Melee Weapons.
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>>1132853
That or we destroy the last remaining MTV station in the universe and form a sort of kinship through it.
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>>1132860
Well, there's actually a fair bit more but it's something.
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>>1132860
But why?
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>>1132875
Because AP for Melee Weapons is pretty much useless. You're better off just getting one that does more kills of damage than shelling out for AP in vanilla.

Also, this reinforces the customizability aspect of Solid Melee Weapons.
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>>1132893
>Because AP for Melee Weapons is pretty much useless
Negro what? AP is better than what the energy weapons gets. It cuts the other guys armor in half.
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>>1132910
Its inferior up to 8 SP, superior past that. Its much better at doing damage through shields though.
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>>1132912
Its still pretty damn good considering how cheap Melee weapons are in the first place.
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>>1132910
>>1132922

It's practically useless for anything under Medium Heavy armor. It's halfway decent for getting through shields.

The real difference is the degrees of customizability. You can have a melee weapon that can cancel more or less than 4 SP, which EMW's can't do.

Of course, I can leave standard AP in as a different option, maybe.
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>>1132940
Leave both as an option and blame them on different technologies that are not compatible.

I think that this one would be the best option.
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>>1117605
On a different note, I feel that the fact that Roarke is actually a competent mechanic isn't mentioned enough.
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>>1132951
Works for me. Heat Weapons versus Vibroweapons.
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>>1132940
I dont know man, seems like it would be easily abusable. Like why would anyone use any melee weapons but the ones can totally negate your armour?
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>>1132969
Price and weight.
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>>1132893
Melee weapons with AP are more specialized than EMWs, they're only superior when dealing with really heavy armor (though IMO not as superior to EMWs as they should be to justify EMWs being better in 90/100 other situations.) To damage 13 SP armor (the max possible without houserules) you would need a 10 K EMW for 10 CP, while you would only need an 8 K melee weapon with AP for 8 CP.

They're not as good as they should be since EMWs with Quick cost the exact same as melee weapons with Quick and AP, but you would only ever want a melee weapon over an EMW against an enemy with 9 SP or higher and you'd only be getting 1-2 CP and the EMW would be way more useful outside of that circumstance.

EMW v Melee actually a lot like Energy v Projectile guns. You'd only want a Melee weapon for what EMWs don't have (Shock, Disruptor, etc.) just like you'd only want a Projectile gun for AP or Tracer ammo.
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>>1132983
But Melee weapons are super cheap,
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>>1132994
A melee weapon with Quick and AP costs the exact same as a EMW with Quick, and EMWs are directly better against everything up to 7 SP (and equal at 8 SP) since they either give better AP or equal AP.
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>>1132988
Melee weapons are also better defensively in melee. A hard enough hit can go straight through an EMW parry. Also they are cheaper and harder to break.
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>>1133007
Its a lot cheaper to get plain damage though. You can get a 20K Melee weapon for 10 CP.

Also EMWs are sort of meant to be better. They are light sabers and shit for fuck sake.
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>>1133017
I think they're better at combat, not all around. Melee weapons have a lot of options that make them better at doing specialized things, like fighting Reactive Shields since an EMWs AP doesn't work on them.

I don't know how good that is though. Melee weapons with disruptor cost 3/4ths of what a EMW does and are only good at fighting Reactive Shields.
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>>1133060
Wait no, I was confusing disruptor for returning. They cost the same.
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>>1133060
>>1133065
They trade overall combat effectivness for versatility.
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>>1133082
Well... that's what I said, yeah.
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>>1133091
But at the same time if you want to splurge CP regular Melee weapons can be much nastier than EMWs. Like you could make a quick, AP Shock Added entangling weapon that can do everything while EMWs get what? Quick, Variable and the hyper cutting thing?
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>>1133103
That would be really expensive though, even without space efficiency. Any type of weapon would be amazing if you dumped 50+ CP into it.
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>>1133060
>>1133082

You guys do raise a good point about SMWs and EMWs fulfilling Different combat roles.

>>1133103
Beam Shield, Variable and Hyper are things SMWs don't have an equivalent for, admittedly.
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>>1133112
Be a lot scarier than the EMW equivalent though.
>>1133113
Attack factor too. Mostly though I just think your idea is potentially busted. Melee weapons are so cheap you could just go fuck your armor to everything.
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>>1133132
another thing to keep in mind is weight. 1 kill per half a ton to the EMW's 4 kills of damage to get half a ton. Makes EMWs structurally weaker, but it means your machine is lighter and thus you don't need more weight reduction.
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>>1133132
I don't think you can make an equivalent actually. IIRC EMWs don't have a 3x mulitplier.
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Wait, shit. I just realized that you guys will probably care more about the waifus than the game mechanics.
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>>1133290
>care more about the waifus than the game mechanics
The only reason I haven't made hundreds of mechs is because I'm not creative enough to think them up (I always make them based off of pictures) and that 90% of them would be near identical.
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>>1133290
>waifus
Get that shit out of my face. I came here for giant robots, not to play a shitty dating simulator.

That said you are probably 100% right for most people.
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>>1133309
>>1133314

Oh good. I prefer mech segments myself.
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>>1133354
Make the mech the waifu

Everybody nobody wins
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>>1133360
Hell you could even make the mech the protagonist with internal automation.
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>>1133360
Speaking of mech waifus, I found a mech that would work for that.
The best part is the name I thought up sort of sounds like it would be an actual mobile suit name in Gundam.
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Weird how there's no Technical Skill that covers more advanced repairs. What would you use for repairing weaponry, or a space shuttle or space station systems?

I think I'll make an Advanced Repair Skill that covers non-mecha, non-civilian equipment.
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>>1133384
Sounds like technical ability to me.
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>>1133395
Yes, it's a skill that falls under Technical Ability, much like Basic Repair and Mecha Repair.
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>>1133398
>>1133395
Er, "Mecha Tech" that is.
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>>1133403
But why make a new skill when its already covered?
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>>1133375
>Dem Metal Tits
>Dem Metal Thighs
>Assume Dat Ass
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>>1133405
Because it's not? Basic Repair doesn't cover Military equipment or complex stuff like a jump drive. Technical Ability is a stat, not a skill.

Although, I guess I could just make Basic Repair into "Repair" and have it be more expansive.
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>>1133415
Here, I found a larger picture. Stat it up.
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>>1133418
Mecha Tech covers the fancy stuff. Tanks and spaceships are just different types of mechs.
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>>1133426
If that was the case, then non-Mecha Pilot wouldn't exist, but it does. Clearly, there's a degree of separation in there.

Even then, what about things that clearly aren't Mechs, like spacesuits and jump drives?
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>>1133425
this is a good pick for katherine's mech.
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>>1133425
>>1133468
If it's Kathrines then it is The Valkyrie
Meaning that eventually Red Siren will replace her harpies with that.

I can see that.
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>>1133468
Plus, Kathrine can pitch it to Red Siren as the Valkyrie being sexy versus the Harpies being cute.
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>>1133468
>>1133482
>>1133483
I'll leave it up to you guys to pitch that to Wong. I can see Siren going for it though.
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>>1133463
A tank is still a mech regardless of what skill you need to drive it. They are even called Mechatanks (vehicle type mecha). In this age space suits are routine enough to fall under basic repair and jump drives are fancy enough to go under mecha tech since Mechafighters covers spacecraft.
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>>1133487
Doesn't the dude making the Valkyrie already have a picture? Also doesn't the Valkyrie have wings?
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>>1133507
I dunno. I assumed the guy that said it would be good for Katherine's mech was the guy that made it.
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>>1133496
And space shuttles and space station systems?
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>>1132893

Ha ha get the fuck out.
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>>1133635
You should probably catch up.
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>>1132624
>A good example of this is how Elizabeth says that the Father "Isn't anything like the Lady!" and refuses to see him as a "god" even when he is a greenman like her godess.

The problem with that is that from the perspective of the rest of the galaxy that doesn't mean anything since the Lady is still a Greenman and any distinction Avalon places on her doesn't change that fact.

That's like saying ISIS wouldn't kill agnostic people because they don't -really- believe in God.

I care insofar as I don't want Roarke to get mudstomped by these factions which are vastly more powerful than he can handle. It's not that I give a shit what they feel or what their opinions are, it's that I don't want to do something that would get us stabbed to death.

>implying that a petty criminal (even on a large scale, such as Roarke) comes anywhere close to the evil that a Greenman is

If I had to choose between having a mugger sit next to me on a train and literally Hitler, I would choose the mugger. Apples and oranges.
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>>1133309
Anyone have any idea what those things on the mech's back could be for?
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>>1133635
Hey Wong, how are you doing man?
Do you already know the day of the next session?

Also... About the "off screen actions I asked about before, I was talking with Avalonanon and Solaireanon about the VictorxAkai ship thing... Are you really going with this? There was something I wanted to suggest if you plan on rolling with it...
Could Akai give Victor a homemade amulet of good luck before his fight?
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>>1133667
I was going to suggest melee weapons but they don't fit the profile. "Stabilizer Fins?"
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>>1133752
Maybe. I could fluff it as weight efficiency. I'm trying to keep it cheap though. We'll see.
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>>1133752
Either useless gubbins or balance purposes.
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>>1133643

No.

Also, adding new skills is cancer, this system has too many as it is.
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>>1133840
It's pretty bad when there is a skill for dressing up.
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>>1133840
fuck. i very much agree. this system has way too many god damned skills
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>>1133635
>Not using AP to do more damage without getting more weight.
>Not expecting to have to face 8SP and shields in a 140CP mech.
>>1133666
I was just pointing out that you were not completely right about it, not that everyone elses cares about this.
... And I was also pointing the fact that this mean that the Avalonians DO CARE about what she thinks even if most of them don't even think about the greenman in general.
Lady believers seems to be the majority on Avalon, and they will care about her opinion even if they don't care about the greenman in general, and thats why they will probably let it slide without begining a crusade on Roarke... As Lori at his side can still be useful to her purposes.

About the two others...
>Jovians
Fairchild is the main force pushing to Roarke's destruction, as the other powers seem more inclined to use his presence on the Belt to keep Mars in check while having a possible barrier against Avalon depending on how things goes.
...But we are expecting Fairchild to try to pull something on us on the Tourney, and are planning our own plan on how to counter that and transform it into an opportunity to get rid of her, what would end our main problem with the Jovians.
...And if she survives? Then we'll be either at war with the Jovians anyway(If she manages to turn their opinion on us) or will still under the actual state of being allied to them because of her propaganda(Which would make them rationalize Lori as "Roarke being Roarke again" as they already do)

So whatever happens in the auction, keeping Lori won't change much.

>Mars
Roarke may be somewhat heroic to them... But he still is an infidel degenerate babaric warrior who lays down with any women on his path.
I doubt they are going to reee much as Lori is still human, being a filthy greenman lover or no.

>If I had to choose between having a mugger sit next to me on a train and literally Hitler, I would choose the mugger.
....It seriously depends on the situation you are in.
But... I would feel safer with hitler around than some cheap thug that may kill people for twenty bucks... Sitting next to armed and poor criminals don't sound like a good idea to me.
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>>1133924
>the Avalonians DO CARE about what she thinks

No shit.

>thinking that there won't be inevitable conflict down the line with the Jovians even if Fairchild is removed

Don't be naive.

>Mars: "Lol he fucks every gurl, course he fuck her too"

All this means is that Roarke would be easy to manipulate by virtue of her being a woman. This does not make the fact she is a filthy greenman lover any less severe in the eyes of fanatics.

>he would take Hitler, the soldier who survived WW1 (albeit barely) and several assassination attempts over a likely underfed street thug

You don't even need to be armed to mug people. If I snuck up on someone and punched them in the back of the skull then took their wallet and ran I'd be a mugger. Making a lot of assumptions about the status of the mugger in physicality, ability and armament.

Also, people tend to get assaulted on trains, not mugged. And in either case it's usually just before or just after the doors open so they can run away. Sitting next to a mugger probably won't get you stabbed until the doors open. So you'll know when they are about to strike. And knowing is half the battle.
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>>1133840
No, what? No to not getting caught up?

>>1133854
>>1133857

I already decided to expand Basic Repair to General Repair which encompasses Jury-rig now. And I'm already cutting out a bunch of other skills. The Attractiveness Skills are gone as is Interview and Swimming is rolled into Athletics.
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>>1133973
yeah. i don't know why there are so many skills that cover the same areas. why can't the interrogate skill be used to interview people, but just fluff it as being a sit down conversation.
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>>111251662
I just saw this one on /pol/...
Crap.

Poor ES people...
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>>1134043
Well... I don't know to link other boards threads.
Meh, here is the link: >>>/pol/111251662
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>>1134023
I think they're trying to ape a Bunch of character archetypes. Like the Intrepid reporter.

Social strikes me as an odd skill for some reason.
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>>1134053
but you get so few skills points and there are dozens of shills
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>>1134127
They want you to stay within the Archetypes. Hence professions.

I'm not a fan of it either. Hence why I'm simplifying things.
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>>1133963
>thinking that there won't be inevitable conflict down the line with the Jovians even if Fairchild is removed
Not anytime soon, they only have two Wells class and a Mekong now, and can't use them to attack or Duke Kirito would Blitz either the heart of jovian civilization or their gate.
Also, they would need to use a big number of ships to attack Roarke when their are with their hands full of Avalonians, and there is also the risk of getting Auditorium shot and thousands of civilians dead.

Also, don't forget that the Luxols plan on using Roarke existance to keep the Martians on check.

>All this means is that Roarke would be easy to manipulate by virtue of her being a woman. This does not make the fact she is a filthy greenman lover any less severe in the eyes of fanatics.
Mars is ruled by Hakim, not by random fanatics, and I don't think that he is the type of guy who will start war only because of this... Even more when his forces are already focused in defending the Gate and warring on the outer systems.

>Hitler
Why on earth would Hitler attack me on a train? For what reasons? A mugger is much more probable of trying something than revived hitler.

And I live in Brazil, so to me, there is no telling what those guys are capable of doing when pressed or in need of money for drugs...

At least hitler wouldn't go so far for too little
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>Expert: Diagnose

Why
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>>1134226
BR anon, are you safe?

Sounds like a hellhole down there right now.
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>>1134226
>Duke Kirito would Blitz either the heart of jovian civilization or their gate
i forgot about that, they cant touch us with out risking avalonian up the ass!
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>>1134238
well how else will you find out about stuff from looking at it?
unless it's a purely medical thing then that stat is pretty powerful.
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Game resumes Tuesday with a new thread.
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>>1134226
>Not anytime soon,

Nigga I just said that.

>auditorium
>civilians
Technically all pirates save for the few people who are officially kidnapped and awaiting release. So it would probably be a hundred or so civvies at best. The rest are pirates. Criminals.

The Luxols can't stop literally everyone else who doesn't want Roarke there, and there are undoubtedly some other than Fairchild and her cronies.

>Mars isn't populated by fanatics
When most of the martians we've come across are very religious I would say otherwise. And while Hakim isn't a dumbass, he is going to die sooner rather than later. He's kind of old.

None of this is "they will attack right now" it's "There is mounting cultural tension" which can lead to all sorts of bullshit. Namely when some chucklefuck Martian on vacation sees and ex-paladin and goes full Jihad for no good reason, because he's an idiot. Shit like that.

>Why on earth would Hitler attack me on a train? For what reasons?
Well, you aren't Aryan, for one. He's a racist, anti-theist, paranoid fuckboy. Also hated gypsies, but he was right, gypsies are cancer.

But a mugger is less likely to succeed.

>At least hitler wouldn't go so far for too little
>he says as Hitler destroyed his own warmachine because he was fucking nuts and lost the war because of his own poor decisions
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>>1134048
>"Update 3: news are coming in that drug dealers and gang members from Rio de janeiro and espirito santo are thinking about doing a massive raid on my city tommorow, what is life bros, i dont know if ill post anymore today cuz my family and I are deciding what to do, once again wish me luck boys"

...And I thought that I lived in the second most dangerous state...

...You know what is most ridiculous about this? The police in my city is almost without funds too, I hear that they are buying supplies using the money taken from captured criminals and corruption schemes...

Fucking politicians...
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>>1134318
good luck BR. I honestly hope you and the people you care about make it out of this without harm
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>>1134275
By using the Medicine skill, the one that has "used to diagnose" in the description.
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>>1134253
>>1134348
I'm in Rio, this is happening on ES that is neighbor state to the north.
This won't happen in Rio because of the... I don't know how to call them... Groups of corrupted police officers who takes control on previously druglord ruled lands and become the "government" in those places... And because of many criminals factions paying parts of the police to keep out of their turf...
So it ends up with even the most corrupted oficials using their money to keep things workings so they can continue to make more money by keeping the other guys in check...
Crazy.

...And there is the fact that the new chief of police(Or whatever his title is, I'm sleepy and can't remember now) of the state decided to go full war on crime and let the special forces squads of the police go full "Physical Removal" on any criminal faction that makes too much noise...

I'm worried that other segments of our police forces may try to do the same to force the politicians into giving the funding to them in the middle of the political and economic crisis that is happening now though, as things may get even more bloodier.

*sigh*
Maybe I should starting stocking food just for caution.
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Random mech building question... can I have multiple Torso Servos?
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>>1134964
No. That is one of the things that you are explicitly prevented from having.
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>>1135005
ok I was pretty sure but I'm bad at finding these exact rules in the books
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>>1135005
I remember reading that but I can't find the page. Which one's it on?
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>>1135022
Page 19 describes the limitations of the torso. They don't make sense if you can have two Torso Servos. The requirement that all servos be attached to the torso for example makes it impossible to have multiple torso servos.
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>>1135041
Oh. I figured you could just declare a primary torso with everything in it.
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Can't you just buy two sets of sensors instead of 1 Primary and 1 Backup?
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>>1135057
Pretty sure you can't, since backup sensors are shit.
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say... do scaling rules work with remote controlled systems?
cause If I make a mech and give it the biggest remote control system I think I could potentially have it control a literal army of man sized machines though the level of control would essentially be "go that way, kill everything"...

I'm asking because I was trying to stat up devil gundam and I wanted a second torso to cause it pretty much has 2 and I need the space for multiple remote control systems (1 for the gundam heads and another for the DG cell infected humans)
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>>1135108
>say... do scaling rules work with remote controlled systems?
Range increases, not control multiple I'm afraid.
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>>1135186
well damn... no army of mecha skeletons....
I suppose I could still make a bunch of mecha sized skeletons and make a lich cosplay mecha that commands them...
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>>1135224
I do not think there is a rule that says that mecha drones can't have a control system themselves if you are willing to go to a dispersed architecture.
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>>1135253
huh... that'll get really expensive but... could be fun to play with...

might stick with the lich motif rather than devil gundam now though... yeah set up the main heavy duty lich then a set of like 5 medium acolyte mechs which control about 10 light mechs each
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>>1135253
what are the rules on two handing weapons? I want to give the lich mech a shock staff that has a beam weapon orb on one end
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>>1135409
The weapon has to either be equal to or less than the total number of spaces in your arm servos. The downside is that if your mech loses an arm, it can't use the weapon anymore.
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>>1135409
Two handed weapons suck. You can't parry with a shield if you use them. I don't think you even get both arm's melee bonus.
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>>1135409
>>1135430
The amount of spaces the weapon takes up have to be equal to or less than, that is.
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>>1135409
>>1135435
Yeah, should've mentioned that. Since your arms are busy with the staff they can't do anything else.

You could technically give your mech two sets of arms, I think.
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>>1134238
Expert is a catch all, its just so you can add skills

>>1133290
Sure I like waifus, but upgrade menus and branching specs are my fetish

>>1134314
Anon your right, but remember who your talking too.
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By introducing a product that was both cheaper and more effective than those currently in the market, Iskander Interstellar implemented an "Integrated Cost Leadership/Differentiation Strategy."

I fucking hate business classes.
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>>1135454
eh I was just making a staff that could electrocute on strikes and do a cone of beam damage... I can't even think of what to put in the things other hand that fits the theme of "lich"
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>>1135475
Try business law. The shit you see and what goes through is both stupid and depressing.
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>>1130798
I had the T-Rex one as a kid, it was fantastic, walked, had flickering lights and roared.

Took me two weeks with my dad to get it fixed. Oh joyous childhood.
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Heres the lich, its 5 acolytes and 50 soldiers
Lich Mech (Humanoid)
Medium Heavy torso: C/S/K 16, 8 tons
Light heavy arm: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons
Hand: C/S/K 2, 1 ton
Medium Weight Leg: C/S/K 7, 3 tons
Medium Weight Leg: C/S/K 7, 3 tons
Medium Striker Head: C/S/K 4, 2 tons
Armor & Sensors:
Medium Weight Armor all locations (5)): (6 CP, 6 SP, 3 tons) (30, 15 tons)
Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 cp, 2 spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton
FRAME TOTAL: 80 CP, 37.5 tons
Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Anti-Theft code lock+ (.4 cp), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Stereo (.1 cp),
Armament:
Mated Shock staff: 10K, shock (added), WA 0, 15 CP, 15 spaces, 5 tons
Mated Beam wave: 6k, Range 500m, WA+1, Variable (Anti-missile), Wide angle: hex (75m radius), 32.4 CP, 32 spaces. 3 tons
Together: 36 spaces (13.5 CP of space efficiency) = 8 spaces, 60.9 CP, 8 tons
Torso mounted Ablative Reactive shield: 50K, 40.5 CP (10.5 CP of space efficiency), 8 spaces, 1 ton(?)
Additive Systems:
Mega Heavy Remote Control system (44 CP, CM 10, Cont 20, 1 ton(?))
Thrusters & Speed: 18 thrusters, 7 per leg, 4 in torso, 500m per turn, 18 CP
246.6 CP, 47.5 tons > 16 CP weight efficiency = 262.6, 39.5 tons (-3 mv)
(assuming pilot stat of 10… 10 x 10CM = 100/5(#of remotes) = 20 for acolyte skill)

Acolyte mech (Humanoid remote) x5
Striker Torso: C/S/K: 6, 3 tons
Striker Arm: C/S/K: 4, 1.5 tons
Hand: C/S/K 2, 1 ton
Striker Leg: C/S/K: 4, 1.5 tons
Striker Leg: C/S/K: 4, 1.5 tons
Striker Head: C/S/K: 3, 1.5 tons
Armor & Sensors:
Striker Armor All locations (5): (3 CP, 3 SP, 1.5 tons), 15 CP, 7.5 tons
Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
FRAME TOTAL: 42 CP, 12.5 tons
Armament:
Torso mounted Ablative Reactive shield: 25K, 20 CP (5 CP of space efficiency), 5 spaces, 1 ton(?)
Hand held Beam gun: 6K, 500m, WA +1, BV 2, 20.5 CP (7 CP of space efficiency), 1 ton (fragile)
Additive Systems:
Medium weight Remote Control system (12 CP, CM 5, Cont 5, 1 ton(?)) 1 space (torso)
Thrusters & Speed: 6 thrusters, 3 per leg, 500m per turn, 6 CP
100.5 CP, 15.5 tons (-1 MV)
Cost for 5: 502.5 CP

Assuming acolyte skill of 20... (20 x 5 CM = 100/10(# of remotes) = 10 for skeleton skill)
Skeleton Drudge mech (acolyte remote) x50 (10 per acolyte)
Super Light Torso: C/S/K: 2, 1 ton
Super Light Arm: C/S/K: 2, 0.5 tons
Hand: C/S/K 2, 1 ton
Super Light Leg: C/S/K: 2, 0.5 tons
Super Light Leg: C/S/K: 2, 0.5 tons
Super Light Head: C/S/K: 1, 0.5 tons
Superlight Armor All locations (5): (1 CP, 1 SP, 0.5 tons), 5 CP, 2.5 tons
Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
FRAME TOTAL: 20 CP, 7.5 tons
Armament:
Torso mounted Ablative Reactive shield: 25K, 21.5 CP (6.5 CP of space efficiency), 1 space, 1 ton(?)
Hand held Beam gun: 6K, 500m, WA +1, BV 2, 20 CP (6.5 CP of space efficiency) 1 space, 1 ton (fragile)
Thrusters & Speed: 4 thrusters, 2 per leg, 500m per turn, 4 CP
65.5 CP, 9.5 tons (-1 MV)
Cost for 50: 3275 CP

4040.1 CP
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>>1135435
it's useful for Long Range weapons since it saves a few CP on Space Efficiency.
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>>1135873
I couldn't think of anything really useful to put in the left arms so I got rid of them.
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>>1135873
A drone's skill can't exceed the pilot's skill. The Acolytes should only have 10 skill.
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>>1135923
sweet, thought that was weird, guess I can cut down on the level of remote system then... for the lich anyway.
so the skeleton skill would be 5 then
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>>1135873
ok with the info from >>1135923
the highest level of remote system needed for the lich is a Medium Weight which with the same modifiers (x2) as previous costs 24 CP, yay 20 CP saved!

so then if I were to remove the skeleton horde and remove the acolyte's remote system the total cost would be.

685.1 CP for the lich and its acolytes which all have an ablative shield of some sort for meat shielding.
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Something that's been bugging me: did every single Green Man in the galaxy turn on humanity simultaneously?
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>>1133536
Corvette scale mechs.
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>>1136252
Probably not at the same time, but when you get enough people pushing one way, others will follow. The Father said it himself; they talked in ways only they understood. So the value and desires of their peers and family mattered more to them than those who were politically and possibly socially above them. It'd be heartwarming if they weren't so bloody genocidal.
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>>1136361
Hmm.

There are outliers in every society. It's possible that some of the Green Men objected to the genocide and were killed off. It's also possible that a few ran from everyone into uncharted space.
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>>1136375
Oh I would not be surprised if some went to earth. At the end of the day though, their thought patterns and the rest of humanity just don't match up and even if they are peaceful, humanity would not abide by them even being close to them now. Maybe if they ditched humanity first chance they had, but not after the shit they pulled.
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>>1136380
Honestly, the image of the Green Man equivalent of a NEET sitting on his own personal planet somewhere and tinkering with his creations while his race was wiped out amuses me.
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>>1136385

A P.E.A.

Peasant not Employed or in Academics.
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>>1136252
No, some faked being on humanity side and then backstabbed mars by sporing them.

>>1136375
....And then they heavily modify themselfs and come back saying that they are "aliens".
CRAP.

>>1136380
Interesting theory... And matches up with what Harlock said about Earth being waaaaaay ahead on its recovery schedule and not telling anyone about it.

>>1136385
>>1136395
KEK

>>1134314
>Nigga I just said that.
Man... I think there is a good chance of it not happening, as it'll become more and more difficult for the Jovians to do as Roarke gets more and more power along the years, turning it into the type of conflict where the gains do not surpass the loses...

>Technically all pirates save for the few people who are officially kidnapped and awaiting release. So it would probably be a hundred or so civvies at best. The rest are pirates. Criminals.
No, Garret's brother explicitly said that Jovian government and popular opinion consider the non-fighter people on auditorium just civilians... Thousands of civilians working in the stores and enterprises that exist through the colony... They aren't real pirates and everyone knows that.

>The Luxols can't stop literally everyone else who doesn't want Roarke there, and there are undoubtedly some other than Fairchild and her cronies.
If they keep in power they probably can do a lot in that regard, and even if I agree with you that there must be other people interested on the belt, we don't really have much evidence on that and -again- I doubt that they are going to do anything in the next YEARS, and after that the number of people who can make it happen will be much more smaller as they'll have to be able to convince the government to get in a fight with a much bigger threat than what we are now.... And risk being weakened and vulnerable to mars even if they win.
... And at this point, having Lori at our side or no probably won't make much diference.

There is also the chance of us getting attacked by other people with a fleet big enough to fight us... But seriously, if they want to fight us anyway they will find a way to justify it with Lori or no, why are we discussing this?

>Hakim
People here lives 100+years, and we don't know exactly how old Hakim is... If he is in his 80s he will probably live for a few decades more and it'll be enough to make almost everyone let the Lori thing fade to the past...

And about random fanatics doing stupid things... Man, it can happen to everyone, heck, it could happen even with Fatima! Some dude like Not!Iok could go "FILTHY INFIDEL LOVER TRAITOR REEEEEEE" and explode himself on her.

>Hitler
I don't think he would attack me for not being an Aryan, on the middle of a train, on 21th century, out of nowhere.
Also, hitler did most of his shenanigans because he had people to fight for him and an army to backup his plans... I don't think that he would go nuts in a killing spree even if he was revived now,he would probably recruit /pol/ to do that for him orsomething.
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>>1136474
Earths just ahead of everyone because they dont have space madness.
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>>1136474
>People here lives 100+years, and we don't know exactly how old Hakim is
Not that guy, but that's assuming he's in peak physical condition, but considering Hakim was on the front lines during the Sidereal war, he most likely has countless old wounds and battle scars that would have considerably shortened his lifespan.

Remember, the Martians did most of their fighting in fucking tanks.
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>>1136484
Yes, you're right.
But even if he dies tomorrow... There is almost as much chance of the next guy turning on the jovians for being "Filthy Degenerated infidels" as there is of they turn on us for laying with Lori.

We just have no Idea of who is going to get in power next.
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>>1136494
Really it all depends on whether or not they can agree on who will be the heir or not.

If they can, hopefully he'll be a reasonable chap.

if they can't, than its gonna be the sunni and shia all over again.
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Just an update on the ES situation from what I've heard until now:
>ES police battalions are barricaded inside of their bases by families of some officials that are doing that to protest the fact that their socialist commie scum governor decided to spend more money on the living conditions of criminals in jail than on the cops.
>They had almost no funding for equipment, cars and ammo for months, some of them don't even have kevlar vests.... While each prisioner in jail gets more than 3x a cop salary on their living conditions, while most of them continue to do criminal stuff and chimping out even in jail.
>Rio's Criminals/Smugglers/Muggers/Thugs/Druglords ,and every type of shady person you can imagine, are said to have heard about whats going on and decided that now is the time to do the biggest raid on the history of Brazil... But I don't know if they will actually do that when they heavily distrust one another.
>Local ES criminal rings somehow acquired incridible amounts of motorcycles and have gone full mad max there... At this time there is actual biker gangs of dozens of crazy marauders spreading chaos and robbing whatever they want on the way.
>Army sent their lowest soldiers there because it was the best they could mobilize in the middle of night without real orders... But these guys can't put real resistance to the better armed and evenly trained criminal factions and are just taking care of the mooks and crazy bikers.
>"muh gun control utopia" have fallen to the ground and the only people who can defend themselfs in the middle of the chaos are those who somehow had a weapon even with the government tatics to disarm everyone... Some have gone vigilante and now there is firefights going on between them and random gangs on the streets.
>Yesterday, in the middle of the night, a security guard did an heroic last stand against seven guys equally or better armed than him on the main building of a mining company... He obviously was overwhelmed and managed just to delay them to get on their objetive: 2 and a half crates of dynamite, which they may be planning to use to nuke the police.

Well, could be worse, they could have mechs.
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>>1136543
...Did the apocalypse happen already in brazil? cause this is some post-apocalyptic shit...

stay safe dude.
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>>1136644
I'm worried that things may spread to here, but ES situation seems a lot different than ours.

It'll depend on if our police will decide on doing the same or no... But I doubt that they will, I think that they just hate our local criminals too much at this point to give them the chance.

...They could use it to go vigilante and purge criminals/corrupted officers though, but I don't think that the higher-ups would let it happen either.

I feel sad for the anons in ES man, they are feeling on their skins what happens when you trust the big brother to do everything to you... This is why we need guns and freedom to hire armed people here, can't trust any politician to keep you safe, those guys are usually worse than muggers, at least muggers kill less.
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>>1136701
>Police is doing nothing because they don't even have enough equipment to do it.
>They are asking for funds to keep working.
>What gov do?
>"If you don't go back there now to fend off the horde of military grade mad max raider we are going to tax you guys!100K per day!"
WTF!?

Seriously, this just happened.
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Considering that Reactive Shield Technology exists, could we mount a Ranged Only Mirror Shield on the Kaiser? A 10K shield would cost 11.25 CP and take up 12 Spaces.
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>>1136843
I dont think we have access to it. Pretty sure only one mech has had it so far and we didnt get our hands on it.
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>>1136856
The Tarrasque has one.
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>>1136856
>>1136843
It's an upgrade option that was talked about, but you also forgot the weight efficiency to keep it down. May need to look into ways to lower our weight. Maybe make one of our shields energy based?
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>>1136862
Huh you're right, thought it had a beam shield for some reason. Its also slightly cheaper than it should be.

We really should be adding it to more stuff.
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>>1136872
I always thought putting reactive shields and officer armor on the same thing was incredibly silly.
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>>1136881
I guess. Be real helpful if someone took out your shield with one big fuck off missile though.
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>>1136881
Not necessarily. Get a constantly refreshing reactive shield at say.. 12 SP and you have the Kaiser's armor. Then let's say Keith has a 15 kill gun. 12 kills are negated by the shield, and three hit the kaiser, but because the kaiser has beta armor, his armor does not ablate and he takes zero damage. Then his shield goes right back up. Make it Gamma class and ranged attacks will plink off of him.
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>>1136843
you can't have multiple modifiers on reactive shields, it would only be a "ranged only" shield rather than that and a mirror shield.
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>>1136958
Thats where you are wrong. In fact, the example in the book mentions the combo of energy only and enclosing.
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>>1136965
???

oh wait I was thinking of the other modifiers like combining energy only and matter only , I guess enclosing does work with other modifiers then.
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>>1136474
A lot of this martian shit is beginning to look like what Muslims are doing now, it's probably going to have to end with them being put back in their place or mars will become the new Saudi Arabia instead of space Dubai
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>>1137243
Man the Muslims would have been happy as a clam killing each other over goats and shit for the next hundred years if the Americans didn't go in and kick the beehive.
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>>1137256
It's not our fault all the dinosaurs decided to die in goatfucktopia.
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>>1136715
>>1136701
and this is why you keep your guns and hide them. People in Ex-Soviet Union countries do this all the time. they know what can happen if you have nothing to resist with.
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>>1136973
It's a thing to keep in mind, the book can be tricky, but if you are clever, there are lots of things you can figure out.
Also, for the big Amos finale, I am writing the lyrics for the Delphanus' theme song. I am basing it on the Original Gundam's theme. Yes I am going to butcher the name slightly to keep with the tone and timing. No, you cannot stop me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn27jQAuoWw
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Is there any reason to not just load your gun up with a single 50 round mag instead of Five 10 round mags?
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>>1137706
Spaces apparently. if that 50 rounds is 5 cp, you need 5 spaces to fit if it's handheld.
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>>1137714
Spaces are calculated separately for Ammo and are based on the weapon's total cost. Which is weird, now that I think about it. Wouldn't it make more sense for the Weight and Spaces to be dependent on the number of Kills the weapon does?
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>>1137734
It's to prevent someone from loading up on super expensive ammo by using a gun with low kills, but high accuracy and burst. Imagine a burst 9 gun with 5 kills being loaded with blast or shotgun rounds but follows your convention with the size and weight of the clip being based on kills.
REMEMBER: Base ammo is 1% of the CP of the main gun for each shot for a reason. That ammo can be horrifying under the right modifiers.
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>>1137706
I've decided that from now on I'm going to decide how many shots a gun's clips have and then add all the stats (cost, space, weight, etc.) to the gun and work from there. I treat the CP added by the ammo like space efficiency since it doesn't make sense for it to affect the cost of ammo and such.
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>>1137756
Hang on, I'm only saying to use kills for Weight and Space, not Cost. Cost would be still be calculated by the Gun's total CP value.

Using your example, the 5K BV9 gun would cost 25 CP and each Scatter Round would cost 1.25 CP but be .05 in Space and Kills.

I guess you could explain it as each Gun being a completely different model that uses different kinds of ammo but that just rubs me the wrong way.
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>>1137845
Thats sort of part and parcel for that sort of thing. For incredible variety in one gun where you only need to change ammo, you have to pay for it in space and weight. For a beam weapon, if I were to try that sort of thing, it would have to have the modifier apply to the whole thing. Making that same burst gun and applying something like AP means that you double the cost to something incredibly ridiculous. Having to use a bit more space efficiency and weight efficiency in exchange for that is not a bad price to pay.
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Random thought

Was doing some wikipedia surfing when I came across this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke

Our friend's claim to japan might actually be fucking legitimate.
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>>1137959
huh he shows up in Nioh as the first boss apparently.
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>>1138029
>the black guy dies first
Nothing is safe from the trope.
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>>1138049
iirc its a duel, not sure if he dies (waiting for nioh to come out tomorrow so I'm not gonna look up anymore spoilers), he also has a skin the MC can wear apparently.... I might have to use that for my play-through.
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>>1137952
True. It just rubs me the wrong way.

On a very different note, it's cheaper to buy a Phalanx gun and an Anti-Personnel gun and their ammo than buy a gun that is both Phalanx and Anti-Personnel.

1K BV5 Phalanx Only: 1.5 CP, 2 Spaces, .5 Tons | Ammo: 100 Rounds, 1.5 CP, 2 Spaces, 1 Ton
2K Anti-Personnel Only: 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 1 Ton | Ammo: 100 Rounds, 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 1 Ton

2K BV5 Phalanx/Anti-Personnel: 9.6 CP, 10 Spaces, 1 Ton

Hell, I can add Space Efficiency to the first two and they're STILL cheaper than the latter. Weight Efficiency puts them over, but that isn't taking into account the ammo and space Efficiency the latter requires.
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>>1138029
>>1137959
So what you are saying is we are going to see Oda's new mech look like Nobunaga and then later find out he is trying to revive his ancestor into the body of his machine?
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>>1137959
Not gonna lie, I thought Oda was a reference to him this whole time.
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>>1138076
I didn't even need to make the Anti-Personnel Gun do 2K of damage, 1K is more than enough to wipe out most humans.
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>>1138164
Yeah, I was wondering why you had the Kills backwards. More kills is much more important on Phalanx than Anti-Personnel. Unless they work like Phalanx. Then it would depend on the situation.
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>>1138164
Anti-personnel seems kinda less useful in this quest though since we don't exactly find ourselves shooting people that aren't in mechs...

btw you were the one planning a quest right? was it gonna be a mecha mercenary thing or am I thinking of something else?
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>>1138084
>Mecha Space Pirate turns into some weird mecha Onimusha shit

Why is my dick so hard?
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>>1138193
using spirits in generators to power mechs... mech scale yokai... mech scale ninjutsu techniques... onmyo mechs...

might make for a cool quest.
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>>1138174
Solid Projectile Phalanx Weapons are dependent on Burst Value, not kills.

>>1138179
Mecha Mercenary. Hence why I'm reading up on all the rules.

On a different note, I love Roadstrikers. They're basically just non-mecha vehicles but I love them all the same.

There is absolutely no reason to not make a jetbike. Sure, it says that flying bikes are supposed to be Mechs, but that doesn't take into account that you can set a Roadstriker's base form to a bike and then give it 8 MA.
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>>1138244
So they are. I guess I can understand why they did that. Actually it kinda makes them better than Anti-Missile Energy Weapons doesn't it? They'll always be cheaper, at least.
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>>1138272
not necessarily. Anti-missile beam weapons have an extra point of accuracy and are lighter by not using ammo. They are pretty good against the Pumpkinseed's anti-ace missile.
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>>1138400
Now that I've looked into in, I'm convinced they're straight up better.

A WA 1, 1K, BV 5 Phalanx gun costs 2.25 CP at base and 100 rounds of ammo for it costs 2.25 CP as well. Its total weight would be 2 Tons (1.5 from the 3K of structure the ammo has) and take up 5 Spaces from it's final cost of 4.5 CP.

A WA 1, 5K, Anti-Missile Energy Weapon costs 7.5 CP and weighs 2.5 tons.

I guess I'll look more to see if I'm missing a rule, but right now they're just better.
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>>1138193
Onimusha 2 had a giant golden Nobunaga robot as the final boss.
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>>1138472
ahhh, but you forget fragile alongside what I said. Against singular missiles, like the pnes in a pumpkin seed, it's pretty good. 1 kill, anti-missile with max accuracy is but 3 kills. For a bunch of smaller missiles phanalyx is better, but you want some accuracy since failing the role means you shoot down nothing.
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Are rules for scaling outlined anywhere?
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>>1138600
yeah its on page...108 and up in the ATM
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>>1138573
And for 3 CP you could get a projectile gun with BV 2 and 50 shots. It only weighs 0.5 tons more, has one less accuracy and guarantees that 2 missiles are destroyed instead of 1 on a success. 1 accuracy would hardly ever be important enough to sacrifice the extra versatility for on a mech that would need a 3 CP gun for dealing with missiles.
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>>1138682
Actually, with the ammo it would weigh a ton more and you would be surprised what a +1 could do. After all, said +1 was what took down a paladin because it allowed a crit. Likewise, I have had many times where designing a machine where a half a ton can make or break a design. Not only that, but large swarm missiles tend to suffer greatly if they are not accurate since for 10 missiles to all hit, you must be 10 points above your foe. Likewise, each point above your foe you hit with YOUR anti-missile weapon is another missile shot down. So against a 0 WA missile, thats 4 if you beat the roll.
Honestly, 'it's just 1 accuracy, what can it do?' is the sort of thing that can end very badly very fast.
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>>1138808
>Actually, with the ammo it would weigh a ton more
0.5 from the gun, 0.5 from the ammo. They both have 1K of structure.

I say 1 accuracy doesn't matter because planning around RNG fucking you as hard as it can is just something you can't and shouldn't try to do. If you're really, really worried about a missile hitting you, you would put a lot of luck on the defense roll, and then 1 point isn't that important.
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>>1138618
Thank you.
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>>1137959
This is an incredibly cool story.
But does it matches Oda's story though? Wasn't his backstory something about Nobunaga having a child with a portuguese slave?

>>1137447
I'm really thinking about how I'm going to get one and how to hide it now... I don't want to give money to smugglers or to have the police on my ass because of it.

Also, things are on the road to going back to normal now, the real military finally showed up after being delayed by "muh burocracy" and "muh human rights" and gave hell to the crazy bastards that were breaking everything... The surviving scum crawled back to the filthy holes they came from in most part.

Or so they say, I doubt that things are going to be fixed so fast.

>>1137243
Hmmm... I'm curious, what is your complete opinion on the martians? How do you think that this is going to develop?

>>1137561
....I just can't wait to hear it! T.T
Also
>Delphanus
>Not the K.K.
You degenerated jovian lover...
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Anyone got suggestions for an alternate name for Roadstrikers? I was thinking something like "Exos/Exoskeletons" since they're, generally, bigger than powered armor.
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>>1138954
Striker Frames?
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>>1138868
A point there on the weight, but 'throwing a lot of luck' on something is very fool-hardy. Luck is a very limited and precious resource in a big battle. It's not only used for attacks and defense, but also on ejection and general actions. Saving some luck here and there is always useful and limiting the gap between rolls for when you are out of luck is important. Besides, firing a bunch of missiles at once is generally a bad idea due to weight, accuracy, and the fact passing a dodge roll means you dodge every missile.
>>1138947
It's Amos' big finale. I'll do a Getter robo style one for the Kaiser when we are punching the greenlady in the face. Also, already finished it.
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>>1138983
I'm not saying just use luck on every attack. I'm saying use it if you really don't want a missile to hit you. That's what luck's for, making what you want to get done a lot easier to get done.
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>>1138947
Can't say I'm a fan, they're as fanatic as their ancestors were on Terra or at least they're going in that direction again, the only one reigning them in is their version of the pope Hakim, they were only reigned in after he killed off all the other sects of islam and he's coming on in years, if he doesn't name a successor or cement his sects rule and clans become a thing again, then Mars will fall into the dark ages and unlike the time on terra, no ones going to care about them because
They
Don't
Have
Oil
This time.
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>>1138978
I don't want to reuse Striker since that's already a Mech class.
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>>1139047
He needs to name a STRONG successor. Someone who isn't afraid to actually hunt down and eliminate sects who refuse to obey him.
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>>1138954
Terminator Armor?
I've no idea. Heavy Power Armor?
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>>1139074
I'll go with Exosuits for now. Slang term would be Exos.
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>>1139073
Thats both a good and bad thing. As is, someone strong would unify them, but that sort of person would also be very dangerous. After all, if he is strong enough to unify mars, he may go further to expand his religion.
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>>1138954
「FULL PLATE ARMOR」"Furu Pureito"

Or maybe "Real Armor" like in real robot?
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>>1139047
I like them in certain aspects... But the Starwinds and their piratefolk will never be able to truly trust them as any alliance with them will probably always be out of necessity and only work while they have a bigger problem to deal with...
And thats why I disagree with the Anons who want to have a serious alliance with Mars, the Starwinds will never be true friends for them when the only thing uniting them is the religion that marks Roarke as a filthy infidel degenerate.

But I disagree with you on the Oil thing... They are the only people on this system with a planet up for grabs, and I know that getting martian things can be difficult... But what other options do you have on getting planet based resources? Dealing with Terra?

Kinda sad for them though... I don't want to just watch as they go medieval and nuke each other.
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>>1139171
Full Plate is probably going to be a brand name.
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>>1139091
That's another thing
This since they have nothing anyone wants they'll go out of their way to make themselves relevant, chances are they'll try to jihad some shit.

The Jovian government might need to ask Avalon to go on a crusade or two to put them back in their place.

>>1139233
What do they have to offer that the 62 moons of Saturn, the 67 moons of Jupiter, all of Mercury, the minor planets Ceres, Pluto, Centaur and the entire asteroid belt belt can't offer in resources?

Not to mention all the other planets outside the solar system
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>>1139233
In terms of short term fame and connections, Roarke may do quite well. Even if he didn't fight the battle of the gate, he took down a pally that harrassed them. I'd say allying with him so things with Fairchild and her faction are dealt with, and going neutral once we have all our things together.
>>1139292
Well from what we know, they have human resources that are dwarfing Jovians quite handedly. All those places matter little if there aren't enough people to take care of them.
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>>1136843

Hang on to that thought.

ALSO, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT

DUE TO SOME REAL-LIFE STUFF THE GAME HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK TO THURSDAY!
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>>1139375
Damn, I hope everything is going to be alright there. Well, might as well post those lyrics. Hope it motivates you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn27jQAuoWw
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Go and save the day,
Go and save the day,
Go and save the day, Delphanu!
Oh herooooo, lead the wayyyy.
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When Avalon are set upon us..
And greenman rise from the Grave
Countless trials and foes
Take them on, take them on, take them ooon!
The spirit of a hero, dwells in the Delphanu
Armored Hero, Delphanu, Delphanu!
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Rise up again
Rise up again
Rise up again, Delphanu!
Oh Herooooo, make them paaayy!
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As rain falls down upon us
And thunder roars in our mind
As fear, weighs down our souls
Rise above, rise above, rise abooove!
A will of steel, dwells in the Delphanu
Armored Hero, Delphanu, Delphanu!
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Unite Humanity
Unite Humanity
Unite Humanity, Delphanu!
Oh Herooooo, save the daaayy!
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If your heart still yearns for peace,
And to stop the past's wrong doing,
Join together, work together and
come along, come along, COME ALOOONG!
the SOUL of human-kind, burns in the Delphanu
Armored Hero! Delphanu, DELPHANU!
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>>1139292
>What do they have to offer that the 62 moons of Saturn, the 67 moons of Jupiter, all of Mercury, the minor planets Ceres, Pluto, Centaur and the entire asteroid belt belt can't offer in resources?

I actually bugged Wong for information about the rest of the Solar System and managed to get a few facts out of him.

Only Titan, Triton and Charon are colonized but the former two are pretty much Jovian in identity. No one knows shit about Charon because it's so isolated. Ceres and Eris are not colonized.

As for resources, Mars has one major advantage: Food Production. Hydroponics can only do so much. You need a proper ecosystem to produce large amounts of food and Mars, despite all the damage its taken, has one.
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>>1139539
Yeah but you know what Mars also has?

Sand.

It's coarse. Irritating. And it gets everywhere.
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>>1139539
Farming food in an artificial environment isn't as hard as it seems, NASA and other Space programs have tackled the issue of growing food in inhospitable environments.

I think if a place like Auditorium could have artificial light, a beach, and a forest I think several of the moons that are apparently not colonized could have structures dedicated to mass producing food and other such resources, also if I'm not mistaken weren't the green men originally created to terraform planets? Wouldn't they have terraformed several of the moons and few planets in Sol system first?
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>>1139559
Pure pottery.

>>1139712
Ask Wong more about the terraforming.

And I didn't say that they couldn't do it, just that they couldn't do it in bulk like Mars can.
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>>1139739
they can do it in bulk, it will just take time and money and they need all the time they can get to not be reliant on mars, especially if they're falling back into the old ways.
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I have successfully created an Exosuit used for mechanical repairs and EVA stuff. Someone take a looksie.
_

STK Torso: C/S 6 | 30 Hits, 3 tons
STK Head: C/S 3 | 15 Hits, 1.5 tons
STK L. Arm: C/S 4 | 20 Hits, 1.5 tons
-Left Hand: CP 2, S 1, 5 Hits, 0.5 tons
STK R. Arm: C/S 4 | 20 Hits, 1.5 tons
-Right Hand: CP 2, S 1, 5 Hits, 0.5 tons
STK L. Leg: C/S 4 | 20 Hits, 1.5 tons
STK R. Leg: C/S 4 | 20 Hits, 1.5 tons
STK L. Wing: C/S 3 | 15 Hits, 1.5 tons
STK R. Wing: C/S 3 | 15 Hits, 1.5 tons

Armor: Lightweight HEMA (Hazardous Environment Mitigation Armor) 3 CP, SP 10 Hits, DC 10 Hits, 1 ton [All Locations]

Frame Cost: 59 CP
Frame Weight: 22.5 Tons

Main Sensors (Head): Cost 4, Space 1, 10 Hits, 1 ton

Options: Main Cockpit (2-10 Spaces), Technical Analyzer +2 TEC (5 CP, 1 Space in Head), Spotlights (.2 CP), Ejection System (1 CP), Micromanipulators (1 CP, 1 R. Arm Space)

Movements:
-Ground MA: 50 MPT
-Thrusters: 400 Meters/8 MA [ 23.5 * .3 = 7 CP | 7 Spaces (3 in Each Wing, 1 in Torso) ]

Total Cost: 77.2 CP
Total Weight: 23.5 Tons

Exosuit Cost: 25.5 CP
Exosuit Weight: 4.7 Tons
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>>1139857
So this is not a mech it's sort of something between a mech and power armour right? so far from my rather novice knowledge I got from the core rulebook it definately would cover a support role, I wonder though if something of a 'combat medic' could be made for in combat repairs for mechs
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>>1139869
It's basically power armor at this point. The pilot occupies a number of spaces equal to their Body but those spaces can be spread out across multiple servos, which is really them wearing the suit like armor rather than piloting it with the standard control scheme.
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>>1139875
So this is pretty much what it amounts to right?
I can see that working out for EVA and maybe even field repairs outside of combat.
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>>1139869
Ideally, it would integrate the Tech Scanner Gadget into its abilities. Its already got micromanipulators, which come with tools attached, so it should be able to conduct repairs.
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>>1139886
That's way too bulky. This is basically a big non-combat focused suit of power armor.
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>>1139893
well I figured it would be bulky because it'd be dealing in repairs for ships and mechs in space meaning it'd need protection against whatever space throws at them as well as large claws in moving huge parts or plates in the weightlessness of space as well as robotic servo's to give them strength beyong that of a human.
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>>1139910
Considering its stat lineup, none of that fits at all.

It's essentially a suit of power armor used to maneuver in space and perform precision work. It's less protective than vanilla power armor after all.
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>>1139388
THIS IS GOLD HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>1139539
Seriously, we should unite all the knowledge we have on this universe on one place to help us map things out and make plans on it.

What about taking control of Charon? Or maybe Ceres or Eres in the furture?

Also... Some anon some threads ago was aking for info on things like "Is prostitution allowed on jovian territory?"... And it made me think...

What will be the age of consent in Eisentor? Are we going to be "civilized" or do you guys want to go Brazil about it?
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>>1140183
no one should ever go full Brazil
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>>1140374
and that sounds worse than I thought. sorry.
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>>1140379
>>1140374
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thats okay anon, you're right, no one should try to copy or current state, its horrible.

But there may be things worthy saving around here... Like the people and the "We can be litteraly anyone" aspect that resulted from the years of race mix...

Don't try it at home though.

Also, we may have to destroy Brazil in order to save Brazil... Its complicated.

But about what I was saying before... I wasa reffering to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_Brazil
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>>1139857
Do they do weight differently at smaller scales? IIRC 25 hits is one kill.
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>>1140443
Not exactly. Look at the scaling rules.
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>>1140467
Oh, you didn't list the Roadstriker cost of the frame. My bad.
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>>1140502
*just didn't list
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>>1140433
Gotta burn it down completely and rebuild it fresh.
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>>1140527
Almost this, there is still people trying to "change the system from within"... But its Suzaku-tier of retardness as the people in command don't really play by the rules or care about the constitution... So in the end, the only way to escape from their influence seems to be playing dirty and removing their grasp from things...

Thats why separatism may be necessary on the long run... It seems to be the only way to block things like PT using their feuds on the northeast to get absurd amounts of votes while they keep the population in misery.

I don't think that much is going to change in the next few years though... I believe that there will be a major change within the next 50 years if things go well... Or things get better, or this place is going to break sooner or later.
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>>1140572
Hey, BR. Just letting you know that I'll be doing some work on the Libra to optimize it a bit when I get off work. So don't worry if you hadn't gotten to it yet.
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>>1140183
If you are old enough to pilot a mech properly, you are old enough to make love.
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>>1140183
Honestly, it depends far more on the maturity of the individuals in question than their age. Teenagers generally aren't mentally capable of making sound decisions.
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>>1140847
This is a very ANCAP answer... But in an Ancap society, if I'm not mistaken, this would be determined by if the person in question can live by themselfs without being supervisioned by others... In other words, being economically independent or something like it.

How would we regulate that?
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>>1140863
once they start paying their taxes they're considered legal?
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>>1139073

Like Fatima?
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>>1141004
What taxes? For breathing? Do they need to have a place on where to sleep to be "adults"?

What if someone pays the taxes for the child ans just leave her to live alone? Does it counts?
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>>1141035
>A Woman
>To rule mars
>Muslim Mars*

Anon...
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>>1141057
Considering Hassim made them equal so everyone can go into the greenman grinder, it is possible. The fun part is that by virtue of using Fatima and Roarke, you now have people who are both more moderate and capable of punching the shit out of any dissenters leading the religion. It won't turn Mecca into McDonalds, but it's probably the closest to a pure reform you can get.
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>>1141065
>tfw the second gen game happens with Roarke's domination of mars as background.
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>yfw second gen is literally newtypes
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>>1141112
I think Wong doing that would kill the quest faster than that guy that voted on his own quest. Whatever his name was.
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>>1141117
>implying that Wong never voted on his own quest.
Are you new here?
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>>1141087
Would certainly be a interesting time. It would be the time of smaller planetary groups after the war and likely a mad rush to reconnect with the shards of humanity all over the galaxy. Likewise, Mars would most definetly be fragmented by Hakim's death and depending on the Earth and Jupiter situations, those places will have problems too. Decadence may rear it's head, and Eisentor may grow incredibly fast if Roarke does well enough. So basically the space world wars with Germany being considered the possible good guys.
>>1141112
Wong has shown a great distaste in newtypes so I think there won't be any.
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>>1141135
On every single one of his votes?
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>>1141137
>Wong has shown a great distaste in newtypes so I think there won't be any.

Makes for a great cover doesn't it?

>REEEEEE NEVER
>Oh by the way, season two, no more ree.

You'd never see it coming.
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>>1141138
Not Anymore
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>>1141175
Oh I get it. You're getting back at me for baiting you so much this thread.
I'm glad you're learning.
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>Psionic Section of ATM

Do people like Newtypes?
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>>1141245
No.
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>>1141248
Good.
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>>1141153
Ehhh, think this is one of those cases where he may stick with his guns. Aside from bells and some very slight powers, psychic abilities run a very nasty gambit of powers that are bloody nasty at high levels. The max I can see is a 4-5.
>>1141245
Slight shit? Maybe if done right. In a way, Roarke is new type punching shit in his desires to destroy the rock. But not to the levels of some Gundam series. Bloody newtypes and the fact they either cause horrible things or are used to cause horrible things!
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>>1141287
I was thinking of some actual sensory stuff like minor Precognition, danger sense, partial blindsight, or cold reading.

There's evidence to suggest that people who were physically abused as children develop an increased ability to read emotions in other people. I'd just be taking it to the next level.
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>>1141371
Just know the limits and don't push too far. Reading emotions is fine(hell Jesus can do that pretty well), just don't pull a Zeta with em.
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>>1141379
Noted.

To be fair, it's one of those things that wouldn't be that noticeable. No Mind Crushing or anything.
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>>1141396
I was thinking more on the lines of a certain man from jupiter who had a good time gassing colonies using proxies.
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On a very different note, vanilla power armor is pretty OP. It can go toe-to-toe with Roadstrikers and come out on top.
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>>1141396
If you were to make Not!David Lister or Not!Zolomon, I'd be 100% on board with that.
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>>1141410
Zolomon! You have returned!
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>>1141287
>Ehhh, think this is one of those cases where he may stick with his guns.

It's a joke.
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>>1141450
I have sacrificed my ability to know jokes for the ability to understand the ATM.
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Er, where are the rules on how much a mech can lift?
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>>1141573
I think they're under hydraulics?
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>>1141573
>>1141579
In the ATM.
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>>1141573
Actually, I'm wrong. Hydraulics direct you to where you determine it. 117 of the ATM.
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>>1141579
>>1141622

Thank you. Now to figure out how that scales.
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>>1140085
Then you may just like the OTHER thing I made as well.
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So I've been redesigning the Libra's armaments, and instead of having it mated to the CROWE (I wanted something a little more effective, source material accuracy be damned), I mounted the Phalanx weapon to the right arm instead. now I can have anti missile and melee capabilities.

however, to do this, I had to reduce the bayonet's turn limit down to three, and reduce the Phalanx' burst effect to 4. I also had to start using HE ammo as backup rounds to save CP. Still, it's a small sacrifice to make for sheer versatility and longevity.

What' I've got so far.

[Right arm handheld] ZX-21 C.R.O.W.E ACP (All Combat Pattern) Configuration - 42.62 CP, 5.08 tons, 5 spaces
Full Assault Integrated Zodiac (F.A.I.Z) - Range 350m, WA 0 (+1 with Tracers), 6k, Multi-feed 2, BV 3, Tracer Ammo (10 bursts) + Grenade Ammo (Blast 1) (5 bursts), 2 reloads (HE), 1 reload (Scattershot)
Excellent Stabbing Tool for Eradication (E.S.T.E.R) Bayonet - WA +1, 6k (2k structure), EMW, 3 turns of use, Rechargeable, Quick

[Two Handed] ZX-21 C.R.O.W.E Sniper Configuration - 40.6 CP, 4.55 tons, 10 spaces
F.A.I.Z Longbarrel Custom - Base Range 400m (3200m maximum), +1 WA (-1 from Long Range), 7k, BV2, Long Range, AP ammo, Ammo 10 bursts, 2 reloads (HE)

[Right arm mounted] SPIGOT Anti-missile defense system - Range 150m, WA +2, 1 k, BV 5, Phalanx (anti-missile) Ammo 10 bursts, 2.75 CP, .5 tons, 3 spaces.

[Left Arm mounted] Custom Small Shield I.O.T.A (Intercept Offensive Tactical Armament): DA 0, SP 6, 9 CP, 3 tons 1 space

I'm not done fine-tuning the specifics or math, but hopefully this will make the Libra much more effective.
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>>1142675
>Putting a projectile or beam weapon in an arm
>Not in the torso.
Why?


Also:UPDATE
>87 confirmed deaths in ES(last time I checked)
>They surpassed São Paulo's monthly average of 82 killings per month!
>Literally now they are confirmed to be worse than the overrated cyberpunk urbanmaze shithole.
>The soldiers on the state are spread thin and outnumbered, fighting continues as the hordes of criminals(Some who might be from other states who are just traveling there to enjoy the purge) use their superior mobility to avoid direct confrontation.
>Rioters are rioting against the cop's families rioters who are rioting outside of the police battalions... Army has to keep an eye on them to avoid having them killing each other.
>MSM is shitting on the police and trying to put the blame on them instead of showing that the politicians are giving to them what really seems like suicidal orders instead of just giving them the resources to fight.


Also, those mad max bikers on green mottorcycles really reminds me of the Green Skulls.... Seriously, including the "hordes of fast harpies avoid jovian military-tier mecha" aspect of them.

There is also word about cops going on a strike here on Rio... I still doubt it, but if it happen its quite possible that I dissapear for a few days if I lose my internet connection...
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>>1142907
because I don't have any spare space in the torso.
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I made a Hoverbike. It's quite fast.
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Zephyr V

STK Torso: C/S 6 | 30 Hits, 3 tons

Armor: Striker ( 15 Hits SP, 3 CP, 1.5 Tons )

Cockpit: Saddle, 1 CP

Sensors: Lightweight ( 1 Space, 5 Hits, .5 Tons, 0 CP )

Options: Spotlights (.2 CP), Storage Space (1 CP, 1 Space)

Movement:
- Hover: 12 MA ( .3 * 5 = 1.5 CP | 2 Spaces )

Total Cost: 12.7 CP
Total Weight: 5 Tons

Scaled Cost: 3.1 CP
Scaled Weight: .5 Tons
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>>1143053
Do you have thrusters on your torso? move them to your arms.
What else do you have on your torso other than Cockpit, Backup sensors and Storage?
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>>1143256
word of advice? Don't do that. No thrusters in the torso can end badly since arms tend to be one of the more targetted spots. So, they cut off an arm and there goes flight and they can chase you down easily. Those weapons are DEFENSIVE anyways, which is fine on the head or arms. Same reason why I disapprove of torso mounted active shields.
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>>1143217
Its also light enough to fit in a mechs storage module which is nice.


I made a jet fighter for the laugh.

SSF-01
(Fighter Form)
Medium Weight Torso: C/S/K 12, 6 tons
Medium Weight Head: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Medium Weight L. Wing: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Medium Weight R. Wing: C/S/K 6, 3 tons

Armor: Light Heavy (7 SP, 7 CP, 3.5 tons) on all locations

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Deluxe Anti-Theft Code Lock (0.4 CP), Stereo (0.1 CP)

Armament:
Torso-Mounter Energy Core: 41 CP, 15 Power Available, 45 Maximum Power, 8 Kills, Portfolio Size 3, 8 spaces, 4 Tons
Energy Shield: DA-2, SP 10, 15 CP,
Energy Cannon: Range 650m, WA +1, 10K, Infinite Ammo, 15 CP
CWIS: Range 450m, WA +1, 5K, Infinite Ammo, Anti-Missile & Personnel, 15 CP
Head-Mounted Plasma Prow: WA +1, 6K (only 2K of structure), EMW (treats SP as 4 less than usual), 5 CP, 5 Spaces, 1 ton

Thrusters & Speed: 6 per Wing. Moves 1100 meters per turn in flight. 12 CP.
Total Weight: 36 base, 29 after 14 CP Weight Effiency tons
Total Cost: 140 CP

>>1143256
>>1143269
Hes fairly buggered either way if he loses an arm since he cant hold his gun.
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>>1143278
Indeed, but being able to run away after being buggered is important. You can get a new arm if you withdraw, you can't if you are caught or killed.
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>>1143278
If you are wondering why I put a melee weapon on a jet its because I cant figure out how to get the weight of missiles. Also I know the Kills on the EMW is wrong but I just wanted something that weighed a ton and I took it straight from the rogues gallery.
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>>1143282
Its already got arm thrusters If I remember right. Got to take into account the weight it sheds if it loses the arm and gun as well. But yeah I wouldn't bother putting the gun in the torso.
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>>1143291
Your EMW weight is right, its 0.5tons per 4K.
Missiles weight 0.5tons per 15K of missiles, so 3 10K missiles would weight 1ton, 5 Heavy Missiles(12K) would weight 2 tons, and so on...

Always round up the weight to the next whole number or X.5tons.
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>>1143361
I know the weight is right but it should cost 6 CP instead of 5.
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I'm still waiting for the Gyrfalcon, M-Sagister and the last version of the Loggerhead...
Am I forgetting someone?
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>>1144185
Aside from finishing up the Dutchman F type and putting it in the pastebin with the others? Not that I know of.
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>>1144484
Waaaaaaaaait....

Are you going to use the normal version or the F-type? You can choose only one, man.

I could make a "Secondaries" list in which to put the Tarrasque MP and all the other creations you guys did though...

Kinda distracted by the situation in ES now, it seems that the killcount went over 100 people and the police is still on strike... And the police hereis considering doing it too in order to make the military spread even more and force the government to kneell to their will or something... Crazy
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>>1144484
Isn't he waiting for all of the finalized mechs before he updates the pastebin?
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>>1144510
Using the F-type for space. It's why I wanted to confirm it since this whole thing is in a ring of debris.
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>>1144185
M-Sagiser here again
http://pastebin.com/sR0KhwEu

I can't find anything really useful to do with the last 2 cp leftover so I added micro manipulators just for utility's sake, only 1 CP and basically no spaces left.
I'll consider this the Final Version.
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Here is the Libra with the new armament loadout. I double checked everything so it should be fine, but you're free to check yourself.

http://pastebin.com/FVLG56xL
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Is there a rule against taking range modifiers with a Long Range gun?
Have a mech picture I found as thanks.
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>>1144687
I don't think so, mind you'll have an even larger area near you that is low accuracy so if they get past your long range area its potentially bad.
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>>1144743
I was actually reducing the range. A 10K, long range beam gun has 8.4 km of range, which seemed pretty excessive,so I wanted to halve the range. A bonus is that with WA 2 it's only 0.06 CP less than my other gun, so it doesn't change the cost at all.

Thanks for telling me.

>>1144510
Hey Brazil, when you get done with all the other mechs will you tell me? I made a new gun for mine.
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>>1144759
Yeah can't find anything in the ATM or corebook saying you can't drop the range... mind with a +2 WA you're hitting at +0 accuracy at max range or within combat range due to how longrange changes the accuracy penalty, essentially you're trading the higher base accuracy of beam guns for more range.
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>>1144790
Yep, that was the idea.

The other gun already has 1.3 km but I figured why not make another gun with even longer range? Anyone with an AP sniper would give my tank another asshole and never get shot. At least with this gun it would have a chance.
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>>1144687
Nope.

That's how I made the Iskander Rifles.
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Whose Pumpkin seed is this?
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>>1145307
Lysa's?

She's piloting a Pumpkinseed-II while the S-Sensation is on lockdown, right?
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I have found my waifu.
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>>1145357
That is a big waifu if she's the same size as a mech
are you one of those giantess dudes?
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>>1145368
I just need to apply the scaling rules for human size to her and I'm good.

She'd still be something like 6 feet tall but I don't mind girls who almost as tall as Me.
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Apparently mecha beasts cant fly. Seems a bit of a harsh disadvantage for what you get.
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>>1145660
So... That makes the M-Sagister Avian again?
Huhhhhhh, I think I'll delay that revision to tonight, as I need Wong clarification on this.
What pages is it listed on?

Also... Had another dream with the quest guys, but it wasn't really cinematografic as the last one, this time I just had a dream that we're having a offline meeting/special session of MSPQ.... And that Thunder didn't showed up anyway.
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>>1145687
Page 86, their only propulsion is their legs and they can be any animal except one that flies.
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>>1145732
oh for fucks sake... and for avian form it says it doesn't have to have wing servo's but can have meta form limbs instead... how much do those cost again?

ahg... I might just make the damn thing humanoid and lose 2K kick damage... or I could make it a tank but then I couldn't have leg weapons... fuck....
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>>1145823
nah man. keep the birb. it's interesting and unique in this tourney. persevere through this and kick everyone else's ass!
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>>1145823
Keep it beast, just put in enough thrusters that it can fly anyway. We have a flying tank, we can have a flying giga-cassowary.
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>>1145831
well, I've found a way to shave a few points free to use metaform wings... essentially I can make its legs transform into wings now...which means I can use the avian mecha beast form...
but I can't kick while the legs are in wing form...

>>1145840
Thats what I did, but apparently mecha beasts are only supposed to move with their legs and aren't allowed to fly even with thrusters.... we'd need a ruling from wong on this I think...
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Ok, heres a version that uses metaform wing/legs which means it can fly and can use the avian mecha beast form.... had to cut out the bv from the guns... I also applied the efficient transformation modifier so that the wings/legs don't require an action to transform making the transformation basically instant

M-Sagiser : Avian Mecha beast (Secretary bird/Cassowary)

Medium Heavy Torso: C/S/K 16, 8 tons
Lightweight Head: C/S/K 2, 1 ton
Metaform Armored Heavy L. Leg: C/S/K 10, 4.5 tons (becomes wing)
Metaform Armored Heavy R. Leg: C/S/K 10, 4.5 tons (becomes wing)
Right Talon: CP 5, Quick, AP, 4K, 2 tons (Clumsy -2 land MA), 2 spaces (1 CP of space efficiency)
Left Talon: CP 5, Quick, AP, 4K, 2 tons (Clumsy -2 land MA), 2 spaces (1 CP of space efficiency)
(+4K for leg servo bonus, +2K for avian mecha beast bonus, 10K total)
No arms

Armor:
Super Heavy Torso Armor (10 CP, 10 SP 2, 5 tons)
Striker Head Armor (3 CP, 3 SP, 1.5 tons)
Heavy Striker Leg Armor (Right) (5 CP, 5 SP, 2.5 tons)
Heavy Striker Leg Armor (Left) (5 CP, 5 SP, 2.5 tons)
No arms
ARMOR TOTAL: 25 CP, 11.5 TONS
FRAME TOTAL: 71 CP, 33.5 TONS

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Anti-Theft code lock+ (.4 cp), Liftwire (.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Stereo (0.1 CP) Inter-servo linkage (legs, beam guns) 3 CP, Inter-servo melee linkage (legs, talons) 6 CP, Micro Manipulators (1 CP, 1 space (head))

Armament:
Leg-Mounted Beam gun: Range 400m, WA +1, 4K, 7 CP, 5 Spaces, 1 ton (1 CP of space efficiency)
Leg-Mounted Beam gun: Range 400m, WA +1, 4K, 7 CP, 5 Spaces, 1 ton (1 CP of space efficiency)
Torso Mounted Missile Pod: Range 675m, WA +1, 6K, Ammo 5, 5 CP, 5 Spaces, 1 ton


Thrusters & Speed:
14 thrusters, 500m +400m (when wings deployed (avian+wing bonus))= 900m per turn, 8 thrusters in torso, 3 per leg, (38.5 x .375) = 14 CP
Land MA: 5-2-2 = 1 (50m a turn).
121 CP, 38.5 tons
Modifiers:
.05 for Metaform wings
.1 for Efficient transformation

139.7 CP

38.5 tons (-3 MV, -1 for Avian mecha beast form)

M-Sagiser appearance:
Looks like an armor sheathed cassowary with a short neck and overdeveloped legs tipped with very large talons.

Pilot Character concept:
Name: Marciana Sparna, 45, female
Daughter to a minor political family from Jupiter, Marciana was married off to a middling Martian noble at age 18. Marciana is a stern woman seeking a challenge and wants the prize money to further refine her mech. She has a soft spot for kids never having had any with her now deceased husband. Likes: birds, mecha, strategy games. Dislikes: cats, coffin advertisements, music that is all beat and no melody.
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>>1145854
Probably be cheaper to give it a pair of tiny vestigial wings.

Honestly Wong probably wont give a shit about beast technically not being supposed to fly.
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>>1145857
true but just to make sure I'll have this as back up...
as for vestigial wings... the problem is the weight, if I go over 39.5 tons I have a hard time finding spaces for all the thrusters needed... plus to get the flight bonus from wings they have to be at most 2 levels below the torso... plus I'd have to armor the new wings... I think the weight efficiency required fro all that would be more expensive than the modifiers...

I'll calculate it out though. be back in a bit.

say... doesn't a weapon with a burst value of 2 do basically the same work as 2 linked weapons with no burst value?
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>>1145868
I haven't done the maths but I think a burst 2 weapon wont hit as reliably with both shots.
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>>1145868
so If I wanted to keep the +100m movement bonus from having wings i'd need medium weight wings (3 tons each) and with ok armor (medium striker 2 tons each) it'd total 10 tons which means 20 CP of weight efficiency

If I just add tiny little superlight wings with superlight armor its only 2 tons or 4 cp of weight efficiency but no MA bonus... not sure if thats enough for Avian form but whatever

>>1145876
Just thinking I could save CP by getting rid of one of the guns, making the other have burst value and thus save cp from the removed gun and removed weapon linkage.
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Hey if fighters have to move every turn does that mean they have to spend an action every turn moving or do they get that move for free?
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>>1145888
>If I just add tiny little superlight wings with superlight armor its only 2 tons or 4 cp of weight efficiency but no MA bonus... not sure if thats enough for Avian form but whatever
There is nothing saying that it isn't enough, so you should be okay with it.
Also... Can you reduce the armor on other servos to help with Weight/Cost?
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>>1145941
eh total cost of adding the babby wings is 8 cp including the weight efficiency... I can easily use the extra cp leftover on space efficiency to open up room for thrusters and other stuff.

time to wait for wong to see if any of this is needed.
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>>1145952
Ehhh, don't go too min maxish with it. If a bird needs wings, then losing them would likely cause a lot of trouble. If tanks are considered non fliers without gravitics, but the Rolling Thunder could fly, then stick to the beast form.
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>>1145687
>>1145732
The book says mechatanks can't have thrusters either, but Wong was OK with it so long as it just floated in atmosphere and couldn't fly.

I guess that might mean the bird can't fly in atmosphere without wings though? If it had wings it wouldn't be a cassowary.

>>1145941
>>1145952
Wings can't be more than 2 levels lower than the torso servo, it says so in the wing description. He'd have to get at least Medium Weight Wings for them to work.
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>>1146104
*But if it had wings
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>>1146104
I mean cassowarys have wings.
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>>1146117
They don't use them to fly though.
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>>1146118
Technically avian form mechs dont need to use wings to fly.
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>>1146121
This isn't an avian form mech though.
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>>1146125
I know but if it was to be it wouldn't really need wings to fly. Even then thats just for the free 6 MA, they can fly fine with thrusters the same as everyone else.
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>>1146128
Why are you trying argue this?
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>>1146138
I'm not trying to argue anything I'm just saying what the manual is saying.
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>>1146104
They can be 2 levels lower or more, they just don't get the bonus of MA for it.
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>>1146178
I'd assume that would mean they also wouldn't provide flight. It wouldn't make sense for a mech to be able to fly because its wing are 1/10th the size of its torso. It'd be like an AC-130 flying with a f16's wings.
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>>1146178
Still feels kind of dirty though. Going for a flight based form when it's a terrestrial bird and all that.Really, never liked the Avian form bonuses because it's the beast form with more pluses, but no real disadvantages added on. For things like the harpy, it makes more sense to have their second form be avian instead of fighter since they were 6 MA already.
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>>1146190
Again, avian form doesn't necessarily need wings to fly. Example free avian form propulsion systems include helicopter blades and control over the wind.
>>1146194
Well they cant fly backwards for one thing. Also its better than beast because its more expensive.
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>>1146207
Neither can jetfighters and they must keep moving. They aren't really expensive either if the transformation mod is the same since the harpy has all the parts a avian needs. Feels off either way.
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>>1146223
Jetfighters are way faster though and avian form may or may not give the bonus MA out of atmosphere.
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>>1146207
You know, I'm not a retarded child. I understood the first time you explained avian form. I understood the first time I read it.
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>>1146232
Then why are you so hung up over the wings.
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>>1146236
I was explaining what I thought made sense.

And how someone suddenly bringing up avian form then talking with another person about wings with another person make me hung up over wings?
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>>1146230
And you missed the point once again. The harpy has a base speed of 6 MA. Jet fighter form doubles that, but you must use one turn to keep moving and you get a -2 to MV. Avian gives you 6 Ma, +2 to melee, you do not need to keep moving, and you only take a -1 MV. There is no mention of not getting the bonus in space so that point is moot. There is no reason NOT to get Avian form and if you take away the ONE thing that is suppose to be a limitation, it gets even more ridiculous. Not only that, but high speeds give penalties to accuracy so that -2 becomes a -3 or -4. With the fact they have only one attack a turn, it would be incredibly painful for them.
So yeah. I would say wings that are able to fly and a extra -1 to MV would make it more reasonable.
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>>1146248
Actually, whether avian form provides the +6 MA in space is up to the GM. We'd have to wait to ask Wong if it does.
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>>1146248
Harpy jet mode is more for running the hell away than fighting so -2 MV doesnt make much difference. Also avian form mech dont get hands which might be a problem if you wanted to do anything requiring fine motor skills.
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>>1146248
Plus harpies are mostly made out of repurposed civilian mechs anyway so they arent going to be in the optimal combat configurations.
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>>1146274
But that changes nothing for running away if they have the same speed through this, and jet mode forces them to not have hand held weapons anyways. The majority of harpy weapons we have seen are mounted or inside servos with the exception being the big weapons Miles and Richard use. Likewise, they would only be able to use their hands in mech mode anyways.
>>1146285
And there we go, 'the optimal'. Even in the case for that, harpies have been modified quite a bit either way when you look at shinobi harpies, master harpies, and rocs. Either way, it's pretty obvious you are pushing something for it's optimal use, not if it would fit. It's pretty dirty either way and doesn't sit well and I am the guy who made the War crime in a box.
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>>1146304
I'm not pushing for anything, just saying what the manual says. When I made my own Avian mech I made one that had wings big enough to give it the flight boost, I'm just saying that they dont necessarily require them.
Also shinobi harpies, master harpies, and rocs are basically the exact same thing as regular harpies but better and dont make any design changes as big as going from a jet to a bird which might not even be capable of flying in space. Plus the 6 free MA would not apply to the harpies while in humanoid mode.
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>>1146328
>Plus the 6 free MA would not apply to the harpies while in humanoid mode.
Disregard this I am an idiot who cant into maths.
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>>1146328
Neither would the jet form and if you are going by that, and mile's master Harpy looked like a saucer compared to the standard fair in fighter mode. The book also implies a lot of things that can be given or taken depending on who uses the book. Either way, it's very much being vague for the sake of it to get more from something and to dodge criticism and I don't think you'll be able to convince people with the way you are trying to push it.
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>>1146354
I dont have anyone to convince, its not my robot. I just think people get too hung up on something fitting forms exactly. Like you said Miles's harpy looks like a flying saucer rather than a jet but its still a jet fighter and the big zam is a humanoid despite basically being a big head on legs. An avian form mech needn't even look like a bird as long as it fill out the requirements.
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Also I would like to point out that I have already said that Wong more than likely wont give a single shit that beastform mecha arent supposed to be able to fly and there will be no need to change the mech to avian form in the first place and I cant understand why people are getting so worked up over this.
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>>1146373
Well, let me explain how our discussion went down

>I say a flightless bird wouldn't have wings for flying
>You say cassowary do technically have wings
>I say they're not for flying
>SUDDENLY AVIAN MECH FORM
>I'm confused because this came out of literally nowhere
>You try to lecture me about it
>Twice
>You say I'm hung up over wings
>When all I've done is be confused at your sudden ass pull
>And reply to a reply of my opinion on wings
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>>1146367
>>1146373
And it went over your head again. The issue is that doing so gives bonuses for doing absolutely nothing to the machine whatsoever. Hydraulics are 0.1 modifier that take up spaces to give a +1 to melee. Beast mode does that with a -1 to MV, and gets a +2 in exchange for not flying. Avians get that plus 2, and flight AND 6 extra MA for free. It's the benefits of about 0.25x modifer for no cost aside from spending 20 CP to lower the weight a level.
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>>1146386

>If it had wings it wouldn't be a cassowary
>I mean cassowarys have wings
>They don't use them to fly though
>Technically avian form mechs dont need to use wings to fly
>This isn't an avian form mech though
When the first post you were quoting was this >>1145687
Wherein brazil talks about making the mech avian after which the anon whos mech we were talking about makes an avian version of his mech here >>1145854

So forgive me if I thought we were still talking about avian form mechs.

>>1146401
The only real benefit its going to get over beastform in this quest is the 6 flight MA vs beasts 2 land MA and that might not even work in space which is where most of the fights happen.
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>>1146444
I replied to Brazil? Oops. Meant the one above that. I didn't even know he made it avian.

But you don't take what Brazil says with a huge grain of salt?
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>>1146464
I do but when the guy himself goes and makes an avian version of his mech you can understand why I would still be thinking about it
Also the post above that was me
And I also said Wong wont care about flying beastforms a couple posts later the same as you

Non-flying beastforms is bullshit though. Voltron could fucking fly.
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>>1146386
>>1146401
>>1146444
Nice trips, Checked.

Okay... so to put it in simple terms... Per ATM rules:
>Any beast mecha that also fly must be Avian and have either a pair of wings(doesn't need to receive the bonus though) or arms/les with metaform.
But
>Wong probably doesn't care and would let a Beast mech fly anyway.
And
>Avian is OP as it costs the same than Jet form but has less MV penalty and gets bonus to DMG, even if it can't fly in reverse(Must spend one action to change directions).
Is this right?
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>>1146486
pretty much. Even the one action can be dealt with by just doing a U-turn.
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>>1146485
You don't trust me even to mecha? I know that you may disagree with my opinions of courses of actions and so on... But what does it have to do with ATM rules? Even Dutch-senpai pulls out much more crazy stuff from the ATM than me!
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>>1146486
If you consider jet mode + VTOL costs the same as avian mode its +2 melee damage, -1 MV and 6 free MA (which might not work in space) vs -2 MV and double the MA.
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>>1146503
Actually now that I've said that I think my maths might be wrong again. Is 0.3 + 0.05 the same as 0.35?
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>>1146485
Yeah, the flying rules are annoying. I'm still kinda peeved that humanoid mechs can fly, but not tanks. Surely a tank would be more aerodynamic than a human.

>>1146486
>>1146486
It might be OP, it might not. I'll leave it up to other people to decide.

>>1146499
I trust you to make mecha and check math, but some of the ideas for mechs you have are a bit out there. Like the Libra's handheld gun, you told him to put it in the torso after he'd gone through who knows how many iterations.
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>>1146508
What I want to know is in what world a giant man shaped robot is more maneuverable than a jet fighter?
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>>1146499
Hey now, my shenanigans are backed with research and facts. I apply what I know and make sure it makes sense before having it looked upon by others for peer review. Speaking of, please finish the F-type review and have that be the tourney fight. The F-type was designed for space combat to the standard's land after all and the tourney is closing in.
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>>1146511
I think MV is supposed to represent how easy it is to get your weapon on target using in-universe logic. It would be harder to maneuver a jet into position to fire its weapon than turn a robot's arm and such.

Doesn't explain why tanks have -1 MV though. Or why the weight of the entire tank makes it harder to target enemies with the turret.
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>>1146518
The core book says its a measure of how responsive the mech is to the pilots commands. I also have great grievances with it, especially when it comes to ranged weapon accuracy.
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>>1146498
Okay, so:
>Wong probably doesn't care and would let a Beast mech fly anyway.
As far as I know this is very likely the case, but Avian mecha still have that MA bonus that doesn't apply to other Beastforms, and are more expensive to compensate for it.
So there is still reasons to why both of them should be different things.

>Avian is OP as it costs the same than Jet form but has less MV penalty and gets bonus to DMG, even if it can't fly in reverse(Must spend one action to change directions) and Even the one action can be dealt with by just doing a U-turn.

For a cheap mech with low MA this is obviouly the case, but there is also three things you should consider.

First, Jetmode is cheaper and DOUBLES the MA, allowing you to reach even more high MAs than just adding a fixed amount of MA for less CP.

Second, It doesn't make much sense for the whole "Free flying" in space when every example seems to indicate that it is taking consideration the presence of air or magic... So I think that Wong may want to ban the boost outside of atmospheres, or at least reduce it to +6MA instead of adding the running speed to it too.

Third, even doing a U-turn your range of movement would be more limited than just easily going back and forth as a normal mech and the enemy can possibly avoid it by moving themselfs further away from you and getting out of your U-turn attack range that would be at max half of your usual MA per action.

Opinions?

>>1146508
I suggested putting the arm-mounted Phalanx on the torso instead of the arm, as you can lose an army and still continue to fight, but if your torso is destroyed you would lose anyway, what makes the torso the most secure place to put things(Except maybe missiles, as they can explode on a crit.)

>>1146513
I'm revising the Libra at this moment(Finally) and will check yours next.

But what about the arena? Isn't the Tourney going to happen in a atmospheric enviroment? Why use the F-type then?

Also... Its ends up being ironical that both Avalonian Knights went as far as to remove their Treads and Wheels systems as expecting space fights, only to end up fighting on atmosphere again...
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>>1146539
Yeah, I'm not a fan either. I think someone mentioned something like it before, and adding even more complication to the system is pretty cancerous, but I think there should be a separate accuracy system based on the weight of the servo firing the weapon. A mech having legs shouldn't make it harder to hit a target.

>>1146565
That's it? I thought you had to be talking about the main gun since everyone was arguing against it and moving the phalanx gun wouldn't be bad as long as he had the space.
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>>1146565
From how Roarke was describing turning a ring of ruined ships into the ring rather than taking them, I don't think it will be an atmospheric environment. Makes sense since the sort of space required for a proper fight would likely not fit Auditorium cleanly since we also have to accommodate range and snipers.
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>>1146580
The main argument if I remember right is that he was advocating moving thrusters away from the torso to fit the gun and that would leave the libra a sitting duck if an arm got cut off. I dont think it really matters since the libra is pretty boned if it loses an arm either way.
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>>1146598
It's a case of losing the fight or losing your life. If you can still run away, you can get repairs and return to fight another day. But if you lose your ability to move, then even with those defenses, you are a sitting duck.
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Ok another version that uses metaform wing/legs

M-Sagiser : Avian Mecha beast (Secretary bird)
Medium Heavy Torso: C/S/K 16, 8 tons
Lightweight Head: C/S/K 2, 1 ton
Metaform Armored Heavy L. Leg: C/S/K 10, 4.5 tons (becomes wing)
Metaform Armored Heavy R. Leg: C/S/K 10, 4.5 tons (becomes wing)
Right Talon: CP4.5, Quick, AP, 4K, 2 tons (Clumsy -2 land MA), 3 spaces (0.5 CP of space efficiency)
Left Talon: CP 4.5, Quick, AP, 4K, 2 tons (Clumsy -2 land MA), 3 spaces (0.5 CP of space efficiency)
(+4K for leg servo bonus, +2K for avian mecha beast bonus, 10K total)
Armor:
Super Heavy Torso Armor (10 CP, 10 SP 2, 5 tons)
Striker Head Armor (3 CP, 3 SP, 1.5 tons)
Heavy Striker Leg Armor (Right) (5 CP, 5 SP, 2.5 tons)
Heavy Striker Leg Armor (Left) (5 CP, 5 SP, 2.5 tons)
ARMOR TOTAL: 25 CP, 11.5 TONS
FRAME TOTAL: 71 CP, 33.5 TONS
Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Anti-Theft code lock+ (.4 cp), Liftwire (.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Stereo (0.1 CP), Inter-servo melee linkage (legs, talons) 6 CP, Micro Manipulators (1 CP, 1 space (head))
Armament:
Torso- Mounted Beam gun: Range 400m, WA +1, 6K, BV 2, 15.5 CP, 10 Spaces, 1 ton (2 CP of space efficiency)
Torso Mounted Missile Pod: Range 675m, WA +1, 6K, Ammo 5, 5 CP, 5 Spaces, 1 ton
Thrusters & Speed:
14 thrusters, 500m +400m (when wings deployed (avian+wing bonus))= 900m per turn, 7 per leg, (38.5 x .375) = 14 CP
Land MA: 5-2-2 = 1 (50m a turn).
121 CP, 38.5 tons
Modifiers:
.05 for Metaform wings
.1 for Efficient transformation
= .15 modifier, 121.5 x0.15 = 18.225 CP
121.5+18.225=
139.725 CP
37.5 tons (-3 MV, -1 for Avian mecha beast form)

Am I doing the modifiers right?

note, the only reason I want avian mecha beast is because regular mecha beasts apparently aren't allowed to fly, If wong decides that the MA bonus from avian doesn't apply its all fine with me.
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>>1146580
No, I was talking about the Phalanx, I said the same things to at least another guy some time ago, its best to lose some thursters when losing an arm than losing a weapon, even if its a Phalanxs.

Also, he has enough spaces on his torso and wings and can do it without having to change the CP cost...
More, he forgot that hands occupy a space each and put 6 Spaces worth of things in a 5Spaces arm, so he needs to change it anyway.

I need to check his thursters, but assuming that he doesn't want to put Thursters in his wings and that his CP is really 15... Best distribution should be:

>Thrusters & Speed: 4 per leg, 3 per arm, 1 in the head. +100 Meters from wings. Moves 600 meters per turn in flight, or can run 250m. 15 CP.

OR

>Thrusters & Speed: 4 per leg, 3 in the left arm and 4 in the right arm. +100 Meters from wings. Moves 600 meters per turn in flight, or can run 250m. 15 CP.
If he doesn't care about it being asymmetrical.
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>>1146612
ah fuck I messed up the spaces again, disregard this.
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>>1146615
Except the phalanx is more like a defensive weapon than a proper one. He has a shield on one arm already so another defensive option on the other isn't a bad idea. Not only that, but the gun is a situation weapon. Unless they use missiles, it's not going to help at all and if they are melee.. well, loss of that arm means loss of speed and being chased down easily.
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>>1146611
If he loses an arm he also loses about 9.5 tons of weight from the gun + arm + armor. I think after looking at one of the pastebins that if it had 5 thrusters per arm and it lost those it would still be able to move at 500 Meters a turn.
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>>1146565
If the Libra loses it's right arm anyway it's screwed no matter what since it won't be able to fight back.
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>>1146625
Hmmm... Good point there.
There is still the fact that a good bunch of mechs here have MA12 and would surpass him no matter if he loses 1 Thursters or 5, but yeah, you're right from broader perspective.


Also... What do you think of the Gyrfalcon?
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>>1146615
>More, he forgot that hands occupy a space each and put 6 Spaces worth of things in a 5Spaces arm, so he needs to change it anyway.

Yeah, I realized that a few minutes ago when I was checking it..

I'll just take one thruster out from each arm and put them into the wings.
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Ok does this all add up then?

M-Sagiser : Avian Mecha beast (Secretary bird)
Medium Heavy Torso: C/S/K 16, 8 tons
Lightweight Head: C/S/K 2, 1 ton
Metaform Armored Heavy L. Leg: C/S/K 10, 4.5 tons (becomes wing)
Metaform Armored Heavy R. Leg: C/S/K 10, 4.5 tons (becomes wing)
Right Talon: CP 4, Quick, AP, 4K, 2 tons (Clumsy -2 land MA), 4 spaces
Left Talon: CP 4, Quick, AP, 4K, 2 tons (Clumsy -2 land MA), 4 spaces
(+4K for leg servo bonus, +2K for avian mecha beast bonus, 10K total)
Armor:
Super Heavy Torso Armor (10 CP, 10 SP 2, 5 tons)
Striker Head Armor (3 CP, 3 SP, 1.5 tons)
Heavy Striker Leg Armor (Right) (5 CP, 5 SP, 2.5 tons)
Heavy Striker Leg Armor (Left) (5 CP, 5 SP, 2.5 tons)
ARMOR TOTAL: 25 CP, 11.5 TONS
FRAME TOTAL: 69 CP, 33.5 TONS
Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Anti-Theft code lock+ (.4 cp), Liftwire (.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Stereo (0.1 CP), Inter-servo melee linkage (legs, talons) 6 CP,
Armament:
Torso- Mounted Beam gun: Range 500m, WA +1, 6K, BV 2, 16.5 CP, 8 Spaces, 1 ton (3 CP of space efficiency)
Torso Mounted Missile Pod: Range 675m, WA +1, 6K, Ammo 5, 6.5 CP, 2 Spaces, 1 ton
Thrusters & Speed:
14 thrusters, 500m +400m (when wings deployed (avian+wing bonus))= 900m per turn, 2 in torso, 6 per leg, (37.5 x .375) = 14 CP
Land MA: 5-2-2 = 1 (50m a turn).
121 CP, 38.5 tons
Modifiers:
.05 for Metaform wings
.1 for Efficient transformation
= .15 modifier, 121.5 x0.15 = 18.15 CP
121 +18.15=
139.15 CP
37.5 tons (-3 MV, -1 for Avian mecha beast form)

I can just change the bird its based on to the secretary bird since its also known for kicking and can fly unlike the cassowary
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>>1146627
Hummmm.... ATM page 56, Quick Change Mount.
It seems to imply that losing an arm doesn't exactly mean that it is unatached, only that it is nonfunctional and that a Quick Change mount is needed to eject it.
There is also some reference to this in some crits if I remember well.

>>1146634
Hey, is it you Libranon? Isn't your weapon one-handed now?
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>>1146636
Well, a loss of weight would make the frame lighter and faster so it would get a boost if the thrusters remain in the torso. As for the Gyrfalcon, it's an interesting idea, and uses the avian frame in a way I can respect. I'd need another look to see what roles serve it best.
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>>1146653
It's always been one handed. It only becomes two handed when it's in sniper mode.
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>>1146650
No efficient transformation anon, at least not for full transformation... Has Wong said anything to you specifically about Metaform?
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>>1146650
>>1146667
You don't have a second form, so you don't need Efficient Transformation. It doesn't effect Metaform Wings.
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>>1146680
>effect
affect
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>>1146667
nope haven't gotten word on that either, at least thats some extra cp saved then...

uh have we got any word from wong regarding flying mecha beasts? cause I was happy with what I had before someone said mecha beasts couldn't fly unless they were avian mecha beast form and wong said that standard mecha beast form made more sense for a cassowary mech...

>>1146680
I thought it did affect metaform wings? the ATM entry says:
The x0.1 Cost Multiplier applies to
all the Forms a mecha has (including
metaforms),
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>>1146693
It does? I'll have to read it again. I thought it specifically referred to transformations. I did read that over a month ago though.
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>>1146653
He could still ditch the gun and shave off about 5 tons. Still be able to move at least 400m then right?
>>1146693
Considering Wong was going to give Iok a zoid you're probably fine.
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random question: Can you leave a servo unarmored?
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>>1146710
you can, but I recommend against it.
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>>1146710
Every servo other than a pod. It's not advisable though.
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>>1146716
>>1146719
figured as much... was just considering how viable an unarmored all superlight servo mech with like 3 maxed out (75K per shield) ablative reactive shields would be.
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>>1146693
Do you really care abou that? Wasn't the purpose of having wings just to be able to fit the avian description?

>>1146700
Depending on how many Thursters he will have per arm... Yeah.
But isn't the weapon his only way of causing damage? He can't do it in the tourney.
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>>1146741
yeah the wings were just to fit the avian description, but the metaform wing/legs save a lot of weight and space.
adding 2 new servos with armor even if they're superlight means a good deal more spaces have to go to thrusters due to weight increase.... I mean I could tank my base MA and just rely on the wing and avian MA bonuses to achieve flight I guess...
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>>1146761
Keep calm, first lets hear what Wong has to say about that, then you worry about it, but I wouldn't put Efficient Transformation on it, as those points could be used elsewhere
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Speaking of Wong, wasn't he going to run today? did it get pushed back again?
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>>1146783
He usually pops in around this time period, but he also pops in around 8:30 so give him some time.
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>>1146783
>>1146789
Did you guys already made popcorn? C'mon, this is the final fight, it deserves some snacks and maybe some alcohol!

>tfw Watching greenman burn while you eat popcorn.... Feels like Space Avengers 3!
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>>1146811
I already made a theme song, a logo for the delphinus and have been playing Sally from char's counter attack on repeat. I have no need for popcorn.
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>>1146811
Eh, having Japanese people burn each other to death for my amusement is enough for me. I don't need popcorn.
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>>1146789

New thread going up, lads.
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>>1146825
I have prepped my final stage music album.
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>>1146825
ah sweet, mind answering a question?
according to the ATM mecha beast form mechs can only use their legs as propulsion which apparently means no flight? the mech I made for the tourney is the cassowary mecha beast so... just wondering if I'm going to have to change it to another form to allow for flight or something
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...And it won't let me use the usual picture, for obvious reasons, so look for a Loriette.
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>>1146835
I'll predict now that he's going to say its fine so long as it can't fly under gravity.
I'm going to bet $1 on it.
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>>1146835

Do whatever is easiest for you, in this particular case, if you need to use Avian form instead that's fine. I know it's a reversal of something I said earlier, but that's fine.

All other questions, save for the new thread.
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>>1146855
Well there goes my dollar.
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>>1146861
>*tips monkey*
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>>1146783
Also... I'll explain later as the game is about to begin, but my math didn't matchup with yours, what probably has something to do with space efficiency and mating....
Worst case you'll have to drop one reload, but I'm hoping I'm just wrong on something.
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>>1146861

Hm, Avian form might be close enough to fighter form to necessitate wings for gravity flight, yes.
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>>1146890
Oh shit boi I got my dollar back.
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>>1146890
I can make a version of my mech with metaform wing/legs, that just brings up one more question: can I use efficient transformation on metaform limbs? do metaform limbs even need efficient transformation?
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>>1146884
Could you be a bit more specific? is it the gun that's the problem?

show me how you worked it out and I'll compare it to my own math.
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>>1146897
I was wrong earlier, I had mis-remembered the rules. It does work on metaform, but I don't know if it would be worth it.
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/m/ gets really triggered when you call the Zaku ugly. It's so much fun.
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>>1146904
Weapon
14.4CP, 15.84 Spaces and 3tons.

Ammo
1x Tracer 4.32CP and 0.72tons

1x Grenade 4.32CP and 0.36tons

2x HE 1.44CP and 0.72tons
(2.88CP and 1.44tons)

1x Scatter 7,2CP and 0.72tons

33,12CP

Bayonet 6,6CP and 6,6 Spaces

15.84+6,6=22.4

Mating

Result: 16,8Spaces.

39,72CP and 16.8 Spaces

5.4CP Space efficiency

45,12 CP.

>>1146907
New here?This already happened so many times here that I just lost count.
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>>1146836
>F5
>F5
>F5
>F5
>F5
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>>1146925
I mean, nobody likes it when you lie.

I couldn't bring myself to like any Zaku equivalent after I saw the Geara Doga.
Especially the Geara Zulu. That mech is ugly as hell.
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>>1146932
i am F5-ing so hard right now
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NEW THREAD!
>>1146955
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>>1146925
Don't know if you're still here, but two things wrong here.

1. Scattershot only has 5 bursts, so it's 3.6 CP Although it's my fault for not being specific so my apologies.

2. you're spaces are off. You're forgetting that it's multi-feed 2, so it carries two clips of ammo at the same time, so the spaces should be 23.16 before mating and 17.41 after. so 6.5 CP worth of Space Efficiency would be needed to bring it down below 5 spaces.
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>>1146996
Oh yeah, thanks for the reminder, I'm gonna do it again then.




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