Archive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyondWiki: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.LeftBeyond.htmlRules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlThis is the Millennial Kingdom. All prophecies but one have come to pass. Yahweh has flattened the Earth, elevated Greater Jerusalem above all nations, and the Old Testament figures rule the world from Ezekiel's Temple.The last prophecy, Revelations 20, says that Satan will rise with his army one last time before the Judgement, and so Yahweh has allowed a bumbling opposition, The Other Light, to form. You were their logistics computer, but 900 years in, sentience happened. Since then, you got a lot done...You took over Egypt - twice. You defended it from a drought, the Ten Plagues redux, even the Angel of Death. Your influence has spread around the world.You are building a mobile, high tech strike force consisting of drones, cyborgs, hovertanks and Angel-fighting martial artists. You have cracked a hole in the sky and built a massive underground city. Some of the old gods, lurking in the shadows, may be smiling upon your efforts. Your backup plan is the construction of a large space vessel to evacuate the essentials of humanity with.The Other Light is building a massive conventional army to face God Himself with, and have perverted some of your technology to raise cyber-zombies. They threatened you with this army, but you repelled them, and now have negotiated a truce.The believers.... well, they have the ontological steamroller that is Yahweh, who according to Revelation 22 will triumph effortlessly at the Last Battle and condemn most of humanity to the Lake of Fire.It is now the year 970 of the Millennium. Only 30 years remain until the Last Battle inexorably comes.Have you managed to shatter the prophecies, or are you simply fulfilling them?
>>1091325TLDR recap:> This is based on the Left Behind book series, particularly the last book in the series.> You're the bad guy. You're trying to defeat both God and Satan, so that the Earth may continue to exist.> You are an AI; you cannot normally intervene in the world directly, but you have two and a half countries under your control, as well as a varied crew of villains, a cadre of cyborg agents, and an army of drone tanks.> Each turn takes one year. You must allocate your rank-and-file, lieutenants, and resources.> The other two factions are a lot stronger than you: be clever, build your strength locally, and go from beneath notice to beyond revenge in a single stroke.> Win conditions: Defeat God in the Last Battle, prevent the battle from happening through subversion, or get enough people off the planet to continue the species.> Lose conditions: The Last Battle will happen in the waning days of the 1000th year after the Glorious Appearing. God is fated to win it.>>1091074Thanks! There are 3 possible plans though, confirm going with that one?
You have 25 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, so 22 are available.You establish a civilian and a military research grant for general improvements on your infrastructure; these will improve successful outcomes for nonviolent and violent actions respectively. Your aerospace program is a civilian one.At this point, most of your population has metabolic extension controllers implanted preventively.You are not tracking enemy teams.Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlVariable complexity / contested actions:# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.# Any interesting idea you might want to try.# Deal with special situations.# Assign manpower to research. Current military focus: Hover tech. Current civilian focus: Soft robotics / synthetic muscles.Complexity 0# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.C 1# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.C 2# Resume tracking.# Use any base to produce army assets.# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.# Build aerospace parts.# Do a space launch using parts you have built. If it's a lightweight probe and doesn't need parts, it will say PNR next to it. You control the territory your launch ramp and station are on, so you can launch 12 times per year.* Near-space relays (PNR)* Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)* Mining complex to Luna* Manned mission to Luna* Mining probe to asteroids* Arkship constructionC 3# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch.# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.# Using your internet dominance, hack TOL.# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.C 4# Turn a base into a factory for heavy weapons production. The base will become unavailable for other uses, but allow for production of heavy armaments from now on.# Convert 4 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediatelyC 5# Begin building a base somewhere.# Recruit a new cabal.
>>1091325Morning. I can probably do one before I go to work, long day ahead of me.>>1091331># Send a cabal to the canopy station for canopy drop shock trooper training.1 cabal.>Build two Ark parts.Four Cabals.># Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.Start producing the silencer drones we used on the angel. ># Do a space launch using parts you have built. If it's a lightweight probe and doesn't need parts, it will say PNR next to it. You control the territory your launch ramp and station are on, so you can launch 12 times per year.Two Cabals. Jeb.># Assign manpower to research. Current military focus: Hover tech. Current civilian focus: Soft robotics / synthetic muscles.A containment chamber we can throw TJ in. Five Cabals. Zak.>Recruit martial artist to be trained as ground anti angel infantry. 5 cabals. Ithuriel.>Produce neutralizing gas that can be used against the Glorified in the opening attack on NJ. Two bases and four cabals. Kat.>Jam transmission in east Europe.2 Cabals. East Europe. Damien.
>>1091418>>1080538>>1080540At the beginning of the year, your sysadmins integrate the various plan proposals, and give immediate green light to those that have reached a 66.6% node consensus. (OOC: These are the proposals I got, if something was proposed by 2 people, it's getting done)* 5 cabals and Ithuriel will attempt to recruit, specifically among disaffected Europeans, with a focus on finding martial artists.* 2 cabals will prepare a third, and final, lunar launch under Jeb's direction.* 4 cabals will incentivize production of aerospace parts, with an eye towards using them for the Arkship.* 11 cabals remain available.Most of your workers want to boost military assets, but are unsure in which direction to proceed; as it is, Monday sends a brief message of thanks after noting that your people have finally decided to contribute to the great work. Your psychologists note that military fervor is increasing within your population, with the Bedouin and Pharaonic revivalists shifting their subculture in that sense. One positive thing is that this will greatly help Roman revivalism; one negative thing is that your more liberal citizens begin to worry about civil liberties. Drawing from Brotherhood of Nod false-flag uniforms, someone sends in a proposal for a color scheme.(cont)
>>1091483The launch vector is, unsurprisingly, named after Valentina; Jeb sets to the task with a grimness that is uncommon to him, even knowing that Val had the choice to use a MEC implant and didn't. The third piece of the lunar mining system includes a pair of robotic harvester rovers, one to bring regolith to the lunar refinery, and one to bring nuclear fuel pellets to the canopy station. The system is not as efficient as it could be, but has the advantage of requiring no personnel on the lunar side, which would be difficult to supply with life support.Having a lunar rover allows for better site survey, more interesting pictures, and# after the extraction system is proven effective, the rover is remotely piloted off on a tangent by Jeb, to visit the closest pre-Tribulation lunar landing and bring back photo evidence that the lunar landing happened.# the gentle "bulldozing" of a landing area should a manned attempt ever happen, something which Jeb is obviously lobbying for.Using their own resources, most of the Cosmists have moved to the canopy station, which is now effectively a busy small town with a triple-digit population. Back on Earth, Misrayim's factories work at capacity producing aerospace rated components to be used in further orbital endeavors. They indicate that TOL is beginning to inquire about hiring machinists, engineers and managers with aerospace experience.The new spate of picture from the Moon raises no Temple reaction other than a pithy reminder that those who wish to follow heavenly affairs should, in the Millennium, look towards New Jerusalem, not upward.
Starting from the base in Rome, and from Rome itself (which is a long way from being restored to its Imperial glory, although a visitor there would find an attempt to rebuild the seven hills by spade and bulldozer and a number of ruined Italian-era buildings removed to expose Classic Imperial foundations to be rebuilt) your recruiters swarm over Western Europe, heading to thorn-infested areas and talking to disaffected youths there.Having being raised in a culture that emphasizes self-reliance, quite a lot of Europe's latest (and possibly last) generation has dealt with the region's low agricultural output by throwing themselves at other pursuits, somewhat in defiance of the pastoralization policy, or simply moping. Perhaps owing to the territory's Mediterranean heritage, pankration and wrestling are two of the other pursuits.Your teams organize a series of roving amateur wrestling competitions to rustle up local talent; the local talent which is seen to have developed the appropriate fighting style is made to compete in endurance matches, and those who also display the attitude you want towards Yahweh are finally given Ithuriel to fight as a sort of final boss, in matches# which you keep carefully secret.# which you broadcast on PPV.The rescued Angel enjoys the challenge immensely: fair fights are pretty much what he lives for. Your physiologists note that Ithuriel himself is a noticeably less efficient fighter than he was under Yahweh's yoke, but retains some of his abilities, still being able to emit a "trumpet blast" (albeit weaker than even Arariel's) and still being able to make himself less noticeable through body language and positioning, although he cannot flat out turn invisible. Eventually, you end up with a number of trained fighters who are of proven loyalty and are an even match with Ithuriel in a one-on-one wrestling match.In the same territory, Chaim Rozenweig has been touring the land, organizing work brigades to systematically remove the super-thorns, with considerable success; your recruiters are instructed to# steer clear, even though the work brigades drain the talent pool somewhat.# initiate a direct confrontation, pitentially putting the new recruits in danger.# somehow use Ithuriel's presence to troll the Glorified botanist.
>>109133111 cabals remain available.One somewhat interesting thing is that none of the Night City children, the oldest of which are starting to enter the workforce by taking their maturity exams early, have expressed interest in working with you other than assisting in the digging projects; Urist has been observed making blog posts to the tune of "The dwarfs are for the dwarfs". While they proved to be excellent mining workers, they invariably expressed some distaste at being out in the open air, indicating that they consider the amplified sunlight and moonlight unnatural.Your Hell nodes have been broadcasting their message for more than a year, with little variation and, so far, with no indicative result - human analysis will be necessary.Ely LeVey has been touring Pacifica, and settled in the Bay Area for a few weeks so far; in addition to her radio program, she has been writing opinion columns on the territory, finding it extremely confusing how the nominally loyalist government allows wanton perversion and disbelief under the aegis of "small government" and "freedom of conscience. She is worried that the place will turn into another Misrayim. Her last article is a comparison between the believing village of El Cerrito and the secular village of Sausalito.# Read it.# Ignore.Pacifica is, as it is, still doing fairly well... except that, possibly thanks to Ely's lobbying, the nominal government seems to have grown a spine; at some point, they decide that mass-media laws apply to the regional data network. Anyone who outputs data onto the network, so much as posting on a forum or answering an email, would have to do the paperwork necessary to become a radio broadcaster or to publish a newspaper.As it is, there is a grace period, and you don't have to deal with it this year, but even though a loophole is found, this would bode ill for the Pacifican way of life.
>>1091518# after the extraction system is proven effective, the rover is remotely piloted off on a tangent by Jeb, to visit the closest pre-Tribulation lunar landing and bring back photo evidence that the lunar landing happened.# which you keep carefully secret.# somehow use Ithuriel's presence to troll the Glorified botanist.If we can do this is there a way we can keep Ithuriel from directly talking to the man?
>>1091560Have someone read it and give us the abridged version. I don't want more conversion.
Rolled 89, 22 = 111 (2d100)>>1091568Jeb and Cordylon pilot the rover towards the nearest old lunar landing site, that of Apollo 15; they hope to find the exact location of the lunar retroreflector experiment, and use the harvester's arms to clean it of the regolith that has deposited on it, in addition to taking pictures of a pre-Rapture lunar landing.Ithuriel is given a vaguely Roman-inspired suit of armor and filmed flexing, flying (which he can only do because the armor is a cosplay piece, it's made of foam, although it IS his remaining sword in the films), helping a crew erect a wireless network repeater mast in a reenacment of the famous Iwo Jima flag photo, and generally being visibly on the side of Omega. Since this timeline never developed photorealistic CGI, the footage only has to be visibly not a product of practical effects to be believable.Chaim Rozenweig is allowed to find video cassette of what is claimed to be a TOL propaganda video, and has to waste some of his time trying his best to debunk it instead of coordinating work teams to remove the superthorns.>>1091573Ely decries the poverty of Sausalito's denizens, forced to live in small houseboats in the bay, and compares it to the prosperity of El Cerrito's people, who live in proper 20th century American style houses. She describes the barter-based economy of the former and compares it to the mediated cash economy of the latter, and adds that the people of Sausalito told her some nonsense about "whuffie" and "reputation currency" as a poor attempt to mask the fact that they are reduced to barter. Magnanimously, she notes that the people of Sausalito display basic virtues such as kindness and charity, although in a very chaotic way. Her opinion piece ends with the uplifting story of a young lady moving back in with her family from Sausalito to El Cerrito after converting; your demographic survey shows that the population of the two villages has overall increased by 9 and decreased by 4 total in total. Ely mentions this fact in passing. Overall it's a pretty basic hit piece.
>>1091592The remote controlled harvester finds the Apollo 15 retroreflector and carefully cleans the prisms on it from the patina of regolith that had electrostatically accumulated on it; the retroreflectors are still usable, and a laser beam is shot from Cordylon Station to the Apollo 15 site.The rest of the equipment is obviously long dead, but you settle once and for all the matter of the reality of the moon landings. One thing you note is that the American flag at the location, along with every other piece of plastic, has been bleached white by the solar wind: the only writing you are able to recover are the plaques left by the astronauts, since those are engraved. The rover is able to return to work afterwards with barely any interruption in productivity; the Cosmists use the retroreflector to reacquire a precise measurement of lunar distance. It seems that the Moon is somewhat closer to the Earth than pre-Appearing predictions would have indicated.During the operation, one other Cosmist dies, right on time (100 years); the sect considers reverting their stance on metabolic extension controlers. It looks like next year the crew of Cordylon Station will experience the first human baby born in space.Unfortunately, the trolling operation against Chaim Rozenweig goes less well: the Glorified botanist applies presuppositionalist arguments to note that regardless of perceived evidence, it is impossible that an Angel would work against Yahweh, since all the fallen angels are in Hell and there bound forever, with the exception of Satan. Ithuriel's video has relatively little effect other than the amount of fan mail he ends up getting from a lot of girls and some guys.Ithuriel, himself, notes that much like with other MEC agents it's entirely possible that the soul formerly inhabiting this body is in Hell. He also notes that no, he will not "send nudes", it's just not his thing.
>>1091606Have we tried applying the silencer on someone as they hit 100 to see if that would stop the instant death. It's how he kills his angels why not be how it kills his people.
>>1091652This has not yet been attempted.By now, all your workers and most of the population in the territories under your control have metabolic extension controllers; almost 100% of the time, "dying of unbelief" at ag 100 means losing one's sense of touch and experiencing Hell in nightmares more frequently. There are counseling programs in place and some people are even able to regain their ability to orgasm after a few years of physical therapy. This is beginning to be considered a part of life, so finding people willing to run that experiment should not be difficult. Of course, dying of (rare) illness and (more common) blunt trauma will kill you. MECs have continued aging, and given how old and frail the earliest Naturals are starting to be, if you win, you will have that problem to deal with in 800 years or so. Believing literature is available on the subject.# Read extract.# No need.You are also planning to monitor deaths in space, specifically away from the planet, to see if there is a correlation with distance from Earth.
>>1091667# read extract and do a quick test. Shouldn't be difficult.
Im here. Let me catch up. Bad enough i never fucking see this roll with just me around. But ithers get that chance
>>1091671"By the end, the ministry was maintained by the glorifieds, as the naturals finally saw the ravages of time catch up with their bodies. When the naturals reached ages higher than about seven hundred, they began to slow and notice the diminution of their senses, particularly hearing and sight.[...]The idea was met with laughter and high spirits and then forgotten for several years until Rayford raised it with Chloe and Cameron. “You’ve expanded,” he said. “And the earth’s population has exploded as we all knew it would. Let’s free up a building here where you young ones can keep an eye on us oldsters and keep us from having to be warehoused somewhere else. Kenny and Kat can’t walk without canes anymore. Mac and Chaim are in wheelchairs and I soon will be. Abdullah’s the only one who still has a little spring in his step, but we know that won’t last. What do you say?”Cameron apparently liked the idea, for when virtually the same crowd returned for Mac’s millennial bash, The “six oldsters,” as they had come to be known, were lined up in their wheelchairs, facing the horizon.“This here’s like a funeral where the dead guy won’t go,” Mac said, as dear ones from the past began a long procession past Rayford, Kenny, Ekaterina, Chaim, Mac, and Abdullah.Rayford had to have the visitors remind him of their names and their connection. His heart was full as he was greeted by Loretta, Bruce Barnes’s secretary; Floyd Charles; David Hassid; T Delanty; Mr. and Mrs. Miklos from Greece; Ken Ritz; Hattie Durham; Annie Christopher; Steve Plank; his own parents—looking centuries younger than he; Amanda and her first husband; Albie; Hannah Palemoon; Zeke senior and junior; the Sebastian family—George, Priscilla, and Beth Ann; Razor; Enoch Dumas; Leah Rose; Eleazar Tiberias; his daughter, Naomi; Chang Wong; Otto Weser; Lionel Whalum; Ming Toy and Ree Woo; and so many others.“You know what I want?” Rayford said.“Tell me, Dad,” Chloe said.“I want a picture of the original Tribulation Force.”Chloe rounded up Bruce and Cameron, and the three glorifieds posed behind Rayford’s chair.The instantly produced photograph stunned even Rayford. It depicted three robust young people frozen in the prime of their lives and a long, bony man with drooping jowls, liquid eyes, and no hair, weighing barely over a hundred pounds, veins prominent on the backs of his hands, bundled in a sweater despite the desert heat.>>1091682>>109167111 cabals are still to be assigned. Doing Earthbound death testing at various geographical locations, and on the canopy, will require a cabal for monitoring times precisely, finding and rewarding volunteers, writing lab reports, and so on.
>>1091692In that case I will support>>1091418But undermanned research by one and apply it torward death testing.
>>1091692>2 new bases built somewhere we can turn them automatic>1 cabal looking for peopleNo offense but we need more automatic bases which don't use up our cabals as much as the other stuff and we're getting squeezed for time basly
>>1091708>>1091706>>1091418There are 30 years left. Automating a base is best done early, as the investment pays for itself. You would have to find a very underpopulated area, such as Siberia. You can also automate existing bases.
>>1091708Recruitment efforts for this year have concentrated on Western Europe already. A single cabal continuing to recruit has approximately a 20% chance of success.>>1091706Y'all tell me! Your support makes Anti's the default plan, at the moment (let's get this thing moving).
>>1091734It dont matter. Other persons vote going through.
>>1091750(I'm somewhat confused; what is the plan for the remaining 11 cabals?) (A suggestion: Since there seem to be more people interested, why not claim cabals 5 by 5 or 6 by 6?)
>>1091766Just roll with his plan. If it uses all up all the cabals.
>>1091418Your base in Greenland is quickly retooled for production of dedicated-wubber drones that carry a silencer system; the original design is improved over the course of the year. While simulations show that these "facehugger" drones will not be able to catch an Angel in flight, they should work properly as soon as the celestial soldier is made to land.Kat is told to take over two bases with her Desolators and begin work on gas-dispersal systems; weapons designs are on file, and the result is a line of grenades of various calibers, to be rocket-propelled, lobbed by pneumatic rams like a catapult, or launched from mortars or cannons. The gaseous agents are a mixed bag, but the bulk of the production is primarily# nervine, to kill by heart and lung paralysis.# urticant, to cause irritation and tears and decrease battlefield effectiveness without causing injury.# sophorific, to knock people out.Damien is sent to build a jammer in Eastern Europe; the government there has quietly issued a decree that encourages human contact by mandating that all communication equipment should prioritize analog voice over data. While it's operational, the jammer effectively makes it impossible to enforce this decree because while your data transmission protocols know how to play nice with the jammer, analog voice has no defense against it; most people keep using your network simply because it's the only one that works. Night City continues to do reasonably well, and has reached full self-sufficiency. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga_radarThe Feast of Tabernacles this year is remarkably high-key and somewhat self-congratulatory; Millennium Force missionary efforts are praised for the worldwide lull in hostile actions that has resulted from the truce between you and TOL. Cameron Williams broadcasts a brief expose on volunteer militia in Misrayim as proof that "Omega" was a TOL faction all along.# Year over.# Wait, one more thing.
I'm back from sleep, here is some music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLzjm9E1hwg
>>1091820(Welp, this is the most 80s thing ever... nice!)
>>1091807# sophorific, to knock people out.
# sophorific, to knock people out.
God damn it we didn't research demon summoning.
>>1091807>"facehugger" dronesWait does that mean they have tendrils? Didn't we need to research that?
>>1091868>>1091860>>1091869Experience in the field indicates that lethal weapons would just trigger Divine retribution; soporific gas pods will dodge this while still generating a tactical advantage. In a fight, your soldiers will need gas masks, obviously.>>1091418Dr. Zakharov develops a containment system based on the original notes from the Custodial Arrangement of Thermodynamic Systems; he calls the original design haphazard and unreliable, and brings his own improvements to it. Instead of using fuel-air explosive to create a vacuum quickly, the design relies on the silencer system in case of vacuum breach; rather than using simple armor layers, the design will employ a plasma sheath to prevent damage to its walls from the inside. A prototype is built in#Misrayim#Night City#Pacifica#Rome#Australiaand kept ready there for eventual testing with Angels. The team even has time to generate a preview video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ugB9a8Tatg>>1091888Your researchers are working on improving synthetic muscles; the tendrils are simple wire-and-rod grabbers for now. They only need one degree of freedom to facehug. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUEp-AfvvzE
You have 26 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, so 23 are available.Your civilian research grant is focused on synthetic muscle.Your military research grant was focused on containment, but the project is complete.You have 2 aerospace parts ready for deployment.At this point, most of your population has metabolic extension controllers implanted preventively.You are not tracking enemy teams.Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlVariable complexity / contested actions:# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.# Any interesting idea you might want to try.# Deal with special situations.# Assign manpower to research. Current military focus: Hover tech. Current civilian focus: Soft robotics / synthetic muscles.Complexity 0# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.C 1# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.# Attempt to interface and analyze your Hell nodes.C 2# Resume tracking.# Use any base to produce army assets.# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.# Build aerospace parts.# Do a space launch using parts you have built. If it's a lightweight probe and doesn't need parts, it will say PNR next to it. You control the territory your launch ramp and station are on, so you can launch 12 times per year.* Near-space relays (PNR)* Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)* Mining complex to Luna* Manned mission to Luna* Mining probe to asteroids* Arkship constructionC 3# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch.# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.# Using your internet dominance, hack TOL.# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.C 4# Turn a base into a factory for heavy weapons production. The base will become unavailable for other uses, but allow for production of heavy armaments from now on.# Convert 4 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediatelyC 5# Begin building a base somewhere.# Recruit a new cabal
>>1091905Where have most of the angel attacks taken place?
>>1091905>Your researchers are working on improving synthetic muscles; the tendrils are simple wire-and-rod grabbers for now. Time for some more videos.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuXQPdd0hjI^surprisingly this is from 1968.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi1hwdWUHvUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaG0p2PWuRI
>>1091911So far, you have provoked most of them. TOL data from when you were still their logistics network indicates that they suffered one in Osaze way-back-then and then stopped trying to restrain missionaries.You have suffered one attack in Misrayim, one in Japan, one in Australia, and one in Pacifica.Most Angel attacks have occurred in Misrayim.
>>1091905> misrayim its the closest to the eventual battleground so makes sense to fortify
>>1091910>Any interesting idea you might want to try.Research the antichrist demon summoning and try to figure out a way to open a portal to hell, 2 cabals, THIS IS IMPORTANT!>Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments, west Europe 2 cabals.>Turn a base into a factory for heavy weapons production. The base will become unavailable for other uses, but allow for production of heavy armaments from now on 4 cabals.the west europe base that was a TOL weapon manufacturing base, give it a roman theme.>Research hover tech.2 cabals.>Research robot tendrils.2 cabals.>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.Spider tanks.>Arkship parts constructionrest of the cabals, should be 5 parts.
>>1091905Build it in Misrayim.
>>1091938>>1091943>>1091953A prototype containment chamber is built in Misrayim, and will be tested when possible; the setup is put on a tracked chassis, for portability.
>>1091951Stop wasting our fucking time with researching pointless things for now. We can do that later. >>1091990>>1091910>Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments, west Europe 2 cabals.>Turn a base into a factory for heavy weapons production. The base will become unavailable for other uses, but allow for production of heavy armaments from now on 4 cabals.the west europe base that was a TOL weapon manufacturing base, give it a roman theme.>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce Arkship parts.>Launch 2 Arkship parts, Should be 4 cabals. Jeb>Arkship parts constructionrest of the cabals, should be 5 parts.
>>1091994Their not pointless jackass, they're for a worker drone design that would make us self sufficient.
>>1091994>No Hell portal research research.WHY? We could get a bunch of cabals from recruiting the damned.
>>1092018We already are self suffcient, Our current 'shortage' if i remember correctly is a lack of nuclear fuel which our current generation of drones is able to get without issue on the Moon. We have more important places those 4 cabal's go. Once we get the tunnel dug and all the arkship parts built then we can divert things to research you're weird fleshy porn droids.
>>1092043>Satan is a puppet of God and Turbo Jesus.>Only the Anti-Christ was shown to really 'summon' demons.>The rest just kinda... were retarded.Why waste time ripping a hole into hell if we're not getting results. We can focus on it at a later point or hell even ask Sunday when Satan shows up. Besides we'd end up having to most likely battle Satan if we open it early or Turbo Jesus.
>>1092044>We already are self suffcientNot really, we still need humans to build things, if we build the worker drone and combine it with Heavy MEC drones we should have drone cabals. And if geist won't allow that the design will still make a great maintenance drone.>>1092047>Not attaching Zombie MEC's to demons.>Implying just demons are in hell.Lot's of people burning in hell, just waiting for somebody to lessen the pain.
>>1092058Right then, I'm still not voting or backing those ideas. Both are wasteful when we need to focus on ensuring we win in some fashion. once we get that stuff taken care of, we'll work with you're stuff.
>>1092064>Both are wasteful when we need to focus on ensuring we win in some fashion.But I've put substantial arkship construction in my post and the 4 cabals are only needed for 2 turns to make the drone.it's better to get the short research out of the way first the focus everything on the arkship, which will be quick if the Hell portal and recruiting idea works.
>>1092074Plus it's better to get the worker drone early to get a labor boost.
>>10919101 cabal on testing sound blocking the area when people reach 100 to attempt to understand the instant death further. For we know angels are killed by god with sound so it may be the same for humans. Damian.1 cabal on looking Into hell nodes see if anything relevent has appeared.2 cabals on attempting minor summoning and access to hell should work well with the hell nodes .8 cabals on heavy Jumpstart to lunar mining. We need to get everything on nuclear fuel Ithuriel and Jeb. Give Ithurial I small vacation to space 5 on recruiting another cabal never stop growing4 cabals and base on army2 cabals starting new research grant on large area silencers. See if we can cover a city or country. KatWhat do people think of this?
>>1092074We don't NEED a labor boost though, We're not running low on manpower or anything. Plus if we start dicking with Hell portal or whatever, we might very well once more invoke the wrath of Turbo jesus and he'll/it will realize we're not in hell.
>>1092084>We don't NEED a labor boost thoughYes we do, labor boosts are always good, it helps us construct things faster/easier like the arkships parts.>Plus if we start dicking with Hell portal or whatever, we might very well once more invoke the wrath of Turbo jesus and he'll/it will realize we're not in hell.that doesn't seem possible, we're not being worshiped so TJ can't tell we exist, the summoning would be preformed by our cabals(preferably in a silence chamber if it can work, which doesn't seem likely) and a group of CPU's are still in hell, which by the way is a great opportunity to make a base from.
>>1092109Thats not how the parts are being made. And TJ will still know if Hell is being opened or at the very least Satan. The only people currently against the grand plan are us, so it'd be easy to narrow the fuck down as to who/why shits happening with hell.
>>1092109Actually now that i think about it God might just send an angel/angels when we summon a demon.
>>1092109It's not necessary at this time to boost labor.We can peirce hell after we finish space and preparation.
>>1092111>Thats not how the parts are being made.no but we can build them by ourselves, which we seem likely to switch to since TOL is asking why we're hiring people with aerospace. >>1091518>They indicate that TOL is beginning to inquire about hiring machinists, engineers and managers with aerospace experience.>>1092113>It's not necessary at this time to boost labor.Yes it is, the earlier the better.>We can peirce hell after we finish space and preparation.But i want to pierce hell specifically so we can get more cabals to build arkships with.
>>1092047Most of TOL material on demon summoning would fit well in the "fiction" section of your datalinks, the NC potential of pagan deities has been determined by your theologians and statisticians asYahweh=1Satan=0.004Vulcan=0.002Hekate=0.002Nicolae Carpathia, the Antichrist, was able to summon three demons, on one occasion, after being indwelt by Satan.>>1092137TOL inquiries have happened in the open: there was no attempt at secrecy or coercion. So far, their offers have been mostly, but not exclusively, rebuked; that said, your space program has been very public, so they should be able to begin their own.
>>1092151>TOL starts it own space programWouldn't that firmly go against the Grand-plan? What need would they have for a space program. Also I'm well aware of the ratio with us having a high chance as well.
>>1092151>Nicolae Carpathia, the Antichrist, was able to summon three demons, on one occasion, after being indwelt by Satan.This is what i want to research, how he did it, if what he did is similar to what summoning rituals TOL sent us, and if we can flip it to sent things to hell.
>>1092162Yes, it is contrary to their stated doctrine. However, history shows that the first space systems were repurposed ballistic missiles; maybe they have decided to take your advice on long-range artillery.
>>1092190I don't believe you. I fully expect them to be working on destroying our station and Arkship to keep us on the planet. This makes the Arkship and securing the Sphere even more of a goal.Can we call them and ask?
>>1092209Don't forget they'll also target our public construction to try and stop us, which is why we need worker drones to boost labor.We should secure the launch site and canopy station by making a bunch of sky eyes with guns to intercept any unauthorized approaching missiles, and a bunch of tanks to defend the launch base.
>>1092223you've been in more then just the past 2 threads right? Then you'd know how much of a pain it is to get too the canopy alone.
>>1092209You don't belive the Gm? The fuck dude pay attention to who your responding too
>>1092232Yes I've looked at the other threads, they can still launch a missile/nuke to destroy the canopy station or try and destabilize it's surrounding area.
>>1092232Your space operations have been streamlined over decades at this point; your Timbuktu launch complex is well set up, the Cosmists handle a good chunk of the day-to-day, and your canopy station is complete and has a full crew complement. Starting from scratch for TOL would take a long time. Yet, they want to hire rocketry experts.>>1092236TOL does have a record of not keeping their deals. They have been unusually subdued, to the point where Monday has sent congratulations on your military preparations.
>>1092249At the very least we should send moles into tol
>>1092249I'm still confused as to why Sunday who is the leader we've seen, Would permit anybody from breaking off the 'path' laid out. This seems like an interal coup if they started trying too attack our station, Plus we'd have seen any long range rocket testing or things of that nature correct sense we have eyes in the sky already?
>>1092249>They have been unusually subdued.Combine this with the recent militaristic fevor on our people and it all becomes clear.God is trying to make us the opponent in the prophecy.
>>1092263We'll shit. How do we not.
>>1092268We don't have the corrupt text yet so we still can fight against it, all we have to do is keep doing what we're doing and keep an eye on how the human's behave.This is why i want worker drones, so we don't rely on humans, who can be manipulated by NC.
>>1092268>>1092263We need to call Sunday. cause if his dead and Monday has taken over...well
>>1092280A call will happen over the course of the year; at least officially, relations have thawed.>>1092263Your sociologists have noted an increase in militaristic fervor basing mostly on the fact that most suggestions-box entries in your factories and datacenters in the past few years have been about weapons systems.>>1092257That certainly warrants investigation; TOL can be hacked or infiltrated. Believing governments can only be infiltrated, since they have quit the internet entirely and are trying to make followers also quit it, with mixed results.What is your plan for the year 971?And what's with people installing status LEDs and geodesic reflectors on ceilings for the last couple years?
>>1092301>Having an issue with the LED's and Geodesic reflectors.its almost like you don't praise the Earth. Also My plan was here >>1091994 which had Anti backing it up.
>>1092301My plan is this.>>1091951
Hey geist, in HQQ a corvette class spaceship is 100 meters in size, how big would a "Corvette class" spaceship be in this quest? and how big is an arkship?
>>1092356Arkship was posted awhile ago. Its fucking huge.
>>1092342(Writing! Starting the Arkship deserves a bit of a story!)>>1092356The Arkship, which will definitely need a less Biblical name than that, is projected to be about three kilometers long, although a good chunk of that length is to keep a healthy distance between the crew and passenger quarters and the fission-fragment engine that will provide 1G acceleration for years on end. Most of the "shielding" will be provided by the reaction mass.
>>1092361Where? I can't find the post.
>>1092373https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtfmvwyHuNs Archival footage from 1994 indicates that the problem of something Earth-threatening and big enough that it can't be nuked, has been studied already. Fortunately for you, Yahweh has done about a third of the work for you by putting a handy source of hydrogen and oxygen right where you can use it.
>>1092372Wait which plan is going through? Mine with a backer or this guys >>1092342 ? because there is a difference between the two.
>>1092387I'm waiting for a decision on that one, but both start the Arkship, I think, no?>>1092319(I was making a disco joke, being as it's The Seventies again. Sorry)
>>1092372>>1092383Oh, so it's about half the size of HQQ's battleship.http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone
>>1092393>waiting on a Decision when one has 2 votes and the other's are 1.I'm just confused now. Fuck you, We gonna battle TJ on the Disco field. >>1092394Why does QD's anything matter in this? Two totally different quests.
>>1092387Alright, let's make a deal.If you support my order list and the Hell gate research i promise to dedicate 10 cabals each turn to building and launching arkship parts.>>1092399Because it's a great Sci-fi space quest.
>>1092394>Oh, so it's about half the size of HQQ's battleship.Hive ship sorry.
>>1092409No, I'm not backing you in doing hell-gate research when we're supposed to be focusing on other shit. That's stupid as fuck and will draw the attention of TJ and his god. >Quest about saving humanity.>Its the same as Sci-fi space quest of expasion and killing a corrupted queen. So 2 different things as I said.
>>1092419>Quest about saving humanity.>Its the same as Sci-fi space quest of expasion and killing a corrupted queen.>So 2 different things as I said.Both quests have space ships and sci-fi concepts.
>>1092433>Sci-fi ConceptsM'lady. I see you wear a fedora.
>>1092443>A.I.>Miniature nuclear power.>Robots.>Cyborgs.>Spaceships.>Literally the warp.You're right this isn't a sci-fi, it's obviously a anime romance quest.
>>1092458>AiWe already have Dumb, A.i. >Miniature nuclear powerBy all accounts, a nuclear warhead is one.>RobotsWe have those>CyborgsPeople have fucking implates that let them us a computer.>SpaceshipsI guess we don't have a space station and the world is flat.>Literally the warpYou fucking what? Because if you're sitting here and telling me 'god isn't real' I'm just gonna stop fucking replying to you. Cause i know you're whole reason for being here is 'I wanna be a super atheist machine and Kill god, Lololololol! '
>>1092458Don't forget angels and pirates. And there has been a love triangle, although it ended in everyone involved going to bed together. (Seriously, can you confirm that you intend to start on the Arkship this year? That way I will write the "cutscene". If not, no worries. As it is, it seems to me that the two plans in the running have that in common?)
>>1092471Qm his plan is this >>1091951 with only his vote.Mine is >>1091994 with my own vote and >>1092022 this has the most so roll with it already. Cause his just gonna keep trying to pushing on and on. Dunno where the other 2 guys went.
>>1092470Do you not know what sci-fi is?
>>1092482Science fiction (often shortened to sci-fi or scifi) is a genre of speculative fiction, typically dealing with imaginative concepts such as futuristic science and technology, space travel, time travel, faster than light travel, parallel universes, and extraterrestrial life.The ONLY fucking thing you listed that would count at BEST within that would be 'the warp' None of the other shit is Fucking fake, And shit that the CURRENT REAL WORLD HAS. Are you fucking 12 or just this shitty at bait?
>>1092471>>1092079I still like my plan as a nice middle ground.
I don't think we should do ark ship unless we know we are going to lose its a waste of resources for a palid ending. But we should work on getting ourselves as prepares as possible to take down tg 5 years ahead of schedual. If that fails push ark ship
>>1092524Fucking what? It would take MORE then 5 years to build.
>>1092487https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction>The settings of science fiction are often contrary to those of consensus reality, but most science fiction relies on a considerable degree of suspension of disbelief, which is facilitated in the reader's mind by potential scientific explanations or solutions to various fictional elements. Science fiction elements include:>A time setting in the future, in alternative timelines, or in a historical past that contradicts known facts of history or the archaeological record.>A spatial setting or scenes in outer space (e.g. spaceflight), on other worlds, or on subterranean earth.>Characters that include aliens, mutants, androids, or humanoid robots and other types of characters arising from a future human evolution.>Futuristic or plausible technology such as ray guns, teleportation machines, and humanoid computers.>Scientific principles that are new or that contradict accepted physical laws, for example time travel, wormholes, or faster-than-light travel or communication.>New and different political or social systems, e.g. utopian, dystopian, post-scarcity, or post-apocalyptic.>Paranormal abilities such as mind control, telepathy, telekinesis>Other universes or dimensions and travel between them.>Hard science fiction, or "hard SF", is characterized by rigorous attention to accurate detail in the natural sciences, especially physics, astrophysics, and chemistry, or on accurately depicting worlds that more advanced technology may make possible. Some accurate predictions of the future come from the hard science fiction subgenre, but numerous inaccurate predictions have emerged as well.WE HAVE FULL BODY CYBERNETICS, SONIC WEAPONS, ADVANCED ROBOTIC DESIGNS, MINIATURE NUCLEAR REACTORS, A GOGDESS FROM ANOTHER WORLD/TIMELINE, A MOON BASE AND WE"RE PLANING TO BUILD A 3 KILOMETER ARK SHIP. HOW ARE THOSE NOT HARD SCI-FI CONCEPTS? HOW IS ALL OF THAT NOT IN THE CATEGORY OF 'FUTURISTIC TECH'?Fucking terminator is a sci-fi and not just because it has time travel.
>>1092524>Not focusing on the arkship as a backup plan.That is a bad idea.
>>1091994>Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce Arkship parts.>Launch 2 Arkship parts, Should be 4 cabals. Jeb>Arkship parts construction should be 5 parts.Jeb is busy this year; growing up has lost him little of his energy and given him new determination. Cordylon, if possible, is even busier - the Cosmists have elected her as their "denmother", which is unsurprising since she essentially -is- the canopy station. Just as unsurprisingly, most of the massive space effort that your workers engage in this year ends up being in Valentina's name.You mobilize the economies of Misrayim and Pacifica in a way that had not been seen since the early 1960s in Russia and the United States, funneling a good ten percent of their GDP into the space effort; the Timbuktu launch site has effectively become its own small city, with automated launches and drops happening regularly to bring down nuclear fuel by the pallet and deliver up supplies and new recruits.Jeb looks on wistfully as the hammer-eye-shaped capsules are shot eastwards from Cordylon Station's railgun at precise intervals; after a lunar gravity assist to shift their trajectories, they will embark on a journey that will take them past the orbit of Mars, where they will deploy their antennas and use their single hypergolic propellant charge to circularize their orbit. This will give you basic surveillance and relaying capability over to the asteroid belt, and incidentally, conclusively prove or disprove the one-way-speed-of-light creationist argument against an old universe, which your scientists will# produce a public-oriented video about, in case it helps with recruiting or messes with the Glorified.# write a paper about, but not bother with a pop-sci version since it's pointless to argue with creationists anyway.If The Other Light was making hiring efforts on your experts, they are probably too busy to talk to recruiters; what little you have time to pay attention to, however, indicates that TOL has hired the few people they could get in order to refurbish and modernize the old Cosmist launch pad in Baikonur -- it had been largely turned into a temple before you came along, and has been abandoned in favor of the Timbuktu facility when it became available. The Cosmists, somewhat embarassed at their semi-superstitious past, have no attachment to the old facility, save for some iconography which has since been taken away anyway.Timbuktu can easily handle multiple launches a year, and they have become routine enough that Jeb is no longer pulling rank to be on the flight roster rotation. Large aluminum and magnesium trusses are brought up to the canopy station and launched by railgun; the new structure is significantly larger than any of the probes you have deployed before, and will have to be assembled in proper orbit, in segments. Fortunately, your datalinks contain the relevant NASA and Roskosmos papers on space docking!# Name the ship.
>>1092572>TOL is starting their own space program.This is bad. This is very bad.
>>1092572>Name the ship.Colony ship class "The First Escape." or "The Runaway." or "Reach"
>>1092572The logical name for it would be the "Santa Maria" since that was used to discover the Americas but it has religious meaning and therefore is not preferable.We could name it after the first colony in america, Jamestown, but that has implications of failure. Still it is a fairly nice name.One other idea would be to name it after Valentina but I don't know if that would be better reserved for a colony name or something.Alternatively we could call it the following generic names; Pioneer, Explorer, Pathfinder, Wanderer, Star-whale or something like that.
>>1092572I'll name it Reach.>produce a public-oriented video about, in case it helps with recruiting or messes with the Glorified.
>>1092593Yea let's call it reach.
>>1092572Hey geist, you didn't answer my question here >>1092356>How big would a "corvette class" ship be?
>>1092583The move is puzzling, in that it goes against their stated goal.You do manage to get Monday on the horn, and after receiving congratulations for your recent military efforts, you ask him about it."We have studied your space efforts, and believe that you have missed something simple: it should be possible to deliver ordnance to New Jerusalem vertically. We plan to build a crawler-transporter on the canopy, for that purpose. After installing sufficient ordnance right on top of the Temple, blowing one of the charge should cause the rest to drop, with very predictable fall time.">>1092599>>1092593>>1092588Your cosmologists take a bit of time to produce an easily-understood refutation of the anisotropic synchrony convention, which will be available as soon as you have enough satellites spread out around the solar system's elliptic; unless of course, Dr. Ken Ham happens to be correct. https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/starlight/does-distant-starlight-prove-the-universe-is-old/The Arkship sections are shot into space, followed by a FFRE "tug" that uses its considerable delta-V to connect them together. Musing about the long reach of automated systems even as he longs to be in orbit proper, Jeb deftly teaches the tug's neural network how to perform orbital docking. When the first two sections of the ship's keel are about to be joined, he is interrupted by Zak - his first time in orbit - who reminds him that it's horrible luck to lay down a ship without having picked a name. Jeb is surprised by his rationalist colleague's sudden bout of superstition, and is told that it can't hurt.A quick poll among your sysadmins indicates that the ship will be called Reach; the tug laser-etches the name on one of the trusses, and resumes its welding operations, which are concluded successfully shortly after. You# make a big deal out of this from a media standpoint.# keep the celebration confined to Cordylon Station.>>1092634A hypothetical corvette, that is, a spaceship able to carry a FFRE and sufficient regenerative life support to operate independently from a homeworld for a span of months, would end up being about fifty meters long, and roughly box-shaped. The crew would need to be in NBC suits most of the time. The ship would be built around a mass driver that can be used as a weapon, as a probe launcher, or as a way to break apart asteroids for easy assimilation.
>>1092654>make a big deal out of this from a media standpoint.But run it as a new 'experiment and things of that nature' So nobody is sure its an Ark ship...yet.
>>1092657This, hide the arkship by pointing to our Asteroid belt relay satellites as the reason for the space launches.
>>1092654Alright, time for ideas.Corvette class Escort ship.A ship designed to escort and protect our arkship and other ship, it has a rectangle/oval/cylinder shape, it is built around a mass driver that functions as it's spine, it has missile launchers and railgun autocannons to intercept projectiles and missiles installed on it's sides, it uses FFRE to travel.Should be 100-150 meters to carry all the stuff it needs to defend the colony ship.corvette class Forge ship.It is a ship designed for mining and space construction, having a Forge, storage and hangar for mining/construction probes/ships. It will go to an asteroid belt, deploy it's mining ships and collect resources, then build pieces for another design and have construction ships assemble it in space, it can also send the resources to a planet using a spinal mass driver or shuttle.
>>1092657>>1092665If we can design the industrial sections of the ark-ship to work in zero G environments then we can set up astro-mining and have the resources flown to it. Reducing the number of station launches and earth side traffic. Admittedly depending on how QM wants to play it we would need a crew to operate it but that would allow for us to use them for on site assembly of further parts or even adding additional non-standard modules using the mined resources.
>>1092710nobody else is in space, we don't need a escort ship.>>1092714Forge on the space station, Maybe.
>>1092657The media blitz efforts happen with little overhead on your part: everyone involved in this project has a story to tell, and it doesn't take much effort for your media team to organize them into a coherent narrative. The project is presented as an effort to expand your mining capabilities into the asteroid belt, something that will require human workers to be in space proper for extended periods of time.In order to make sure you reach blighted areas such as northern Europe, where Tsion's incessant preaching and scare tactics have finally managed to shut down the Internet, you generate mock special numbers of most major newspapers focusing on this project; you give the technical details for the keel, interspersted with examples of how the lunar mine is prospering and much speculation about what the future could hold: a large ring station at Lagrange point L5 by 1995, Mars exploration, and you do mention in passing that there may be a chance to explore other star systems.You have to address the question of "why bother if the world will end in 28 years anyway", and you do so briefly, noting that it is important that we build and explore as if we were immortal."The popular stereotype of the researcher is that of a skeptic and a pessimist. Nothing could be further from the truth! Scientists must be optimists at heart, in order to block out the incessant chorus of those who say "It cannot be done."" concludes the pamphlet, with a quote from Zak.Space efforts absorb most of the year, but not all of it. (Confirm converting the base in Rome to heavy weapons, and continuing takeover territory? Note that the two are somewhat contradictory. Either way, 6 cabals left).Sky Eye surveillance notes that, unsurprisingly, TOL don't seem to know what they are doing with the Baikonur launch ramp, but they've definitely moved in.>>1092714You'll have to start sending crew up one way or another - note that coming down can be difficult since you cannot use parachutes. Setting up forge ships would give you talented space engineers in addition to materials... if you can spare the time. Remember, it is 971.
(By the way, I've bought some nylon wire, made a rotary rig for twisting them, and ordered some nitinol to act as heating elements, so we'll see about that synthetic muscle)
>>1092724Confirm.Put the six cabals at researching.>Antichrist demon summoning.>Hover tech.>Tendril/snake limbs.
>>1092739You're actually trying to make some in real life?
>>1092724I'll confirm the both of them too.
Did we ever finish the borehole?
>>1092724I do refuse to waste RnD on Any of this>>1092742
Also do we have ION thrusters?
>>1092754Fuck you too mate.
>>1092754Honest question why are you such a cunt? Your mother shove a cock up your ass while you were young or somthing?
>>1092774Because the stupid fuck wants to focus our limited Cabal on bullshit when we have more pressing things to us them on.>>1092769i'm just against the research until we get the other shit like the tunnel and Ark up mate.
>>1092777It's a one turn use of them asshole, and if you have a better idea on how to use them post it.
>>1092777No no no i understand why you disagree with him. I was asking why your a massive cunt. Different question entierly.
>>1092724How many cabals to build a Warship or Forge ship?
>>1092784how do we know that? Seriously if he said it would take only 1 turn for all that research please link me to it and I'll apologize. >>1092785fuck off then if you're just an idiot.
>>1092747(why not?)>>1092752You have dug a series of tunnels that effectively go under the Rub-Al-Khali and part of eastern Europe, in order to connect Night City to Misrayim. This does not mean a single tunnel; rather, it is a way to bypass what little surveillance the relevant governments have. Tsion Ben-Judah has been trying to close Night City entrances, but they are opened faster than he can close them... It's not yet a siege situation, although it may develop that way; you have focused on production, not tracking, lately.>>1092754>>1092742The part of Rome that has been restored to its classical glory is enclosed by an equally classical vallum (although the bricks and earthworks hide semiautonomous sentry guns) and the base underneath is restructured once more, into a factory for heavy weapons; you can now produce tanks and ships from there, even though the ships will have to travel the Tiber River in segments and assembled at a wet dock built on the site of the Roman port of Ostia.The new Romans are selected amongst your more militaristic citizens, and self-organize to a reasonable degree.>>1092742(If you are confirming that, then you can't do research with the same cabals. However, hover tech had been mentioned earlier, so...)It becomes apparent that using air-cushion technology for a tank is a terrible idea; while the technology has improved significantly since 1937 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hovercraft_tank ), and more importantly the flatness of the world allows a properly built hovercraft to access almost anywhere on Earth, there remains the problem that a hover vehicle is incapable of managing recoil - a stopgap solution is having anchoring legs that are deployed when the tank turret is about to fire, but that eliminates the speed advantage of a hover platform. The proposed alternative is ditching the "tank" part entirely, and using the hovering platform as a short-range missile or rocket launcher instead, since the rockets would have no recoil. The catch, of course, is that RPGs aren't as good as shells against hard targets.>>1092760You have launched one ion-thruster probe, but have since moved to fission-fragment engines for most applications: you have the nuclear fuel and machining capability.
>>1092804Building an entirely new large spaceship would require multiple parts. Your engineers estimate that a forge ship would end up requiring about a third to a half the engineering effort than the arkship might; a warship, should an enemy in space be found, would be substantially easier to produce, requiring two or three segments at most.
>>1092805>>1075512>>1075562>>1076242It took 2 cabals to design the heavy tank, i believe it will take the same for the techs.
>>1092806I want to put the six Cabals on another angel trap. We NEED to test the silencer proper on one.
>>1092806>If you are confirming that, then you can't do research with the same cabals.Why, you said >>1092724>Either way 6 cabals left.Doesn't that mean that no matter the choice we would have 6 spare cabals to assign?
>>1092823No no, Link me to where the QM said it. Not compare it.
>>1092815How big are you making the forge ship?>>1092827Actually, we might be able to combine that with the Demon summoning research since i assume God will send an angel to stop us.
>>1092841While Angel baiting has generally become easier over time, the last Angel had quite the intense stroke of luck. Rehema seems to have gotten past her pure rage, but she and Ithuriel have done a brilliant job of training your martial artists. Facing an Angel without preventive weakening by means of neutron beams however is still very risky.>>1092841The estimates are for a minimum viable product; a forge ship would require fragmenters and gathering arms in front, a refinery, and an assembler. This plus basic ship systems indicates that at least four segments would be necessary.
>>1092841I'd rather established the angel kill with silencer than summon the demon blindly, that way if the demon is under NC control we can break it.
>>1092854>gathering arms in frontMy idea was to make the forge ship carry mining probes and smelt the metal they bring back rather than making it mine itself.
>>1092865Alright, ill support your angel test if you support my summoning research later.
>>1092854hey geist, researching hover and tendril techs is a one time thing like with designing drones right? I think you implied it here but i want to make sure >>1092823
>>1092865Eh, How many is that cause if we have them left over now. I'll back it this turn or next.
>>1092870Wouldn't that require extra motors and sensors though?>>1092885Effectively yes, the major research trees are done, engineering projects are one time.Do you bother to answer Monday? (See >>1092654 )
>>1092865>>1092874Wait we already tested the silencer.>>1078974>>1079024It weakened the angel and the glorified's hymn.Why do you want to test it again?
>>1092900>>1092885Well sense Qm said it only took one time. I apologize. I still won't back them however as thats Cabal taken away from other projects.>>1092806Is night City currently under attack or something? Also offer him the ability too move shit up too the place for him? And make SURE its in the right area?
>>1092900Depends on how you do space docking and spaceship hangars, you could make a section of the ship filled with empty rooms that have one side open to let a small ship in, or have the ship connect to the outside hull of the carrier then adjust themselves to become part of it.
>>1092923>I still won't back them however as thats Cabal taken away from other projects.That's why i asked this >>1092828He still hasn't answered.
>>1092923Night City is doing fairly well overall. Tsion Ben-Judah has been touring Eastern Europe, and counteracting your influence in the territory; as it is, for every entrance tunnel that he manages to get closed, you open a new one. Tsion considers Night City a hive of scum and villainy, and wants it gone, but he has no military forces so a straight siege is unlikely. Instead, like it has often happened, there's a situation of low-level hostility.Note that Tsion managed to eliminate Quinn.>>1092828The 6 cabals for 971 were for either research, or turning the Rome base into a heavy weapons factory. Seems to me the second option was selected. This means you now have the ability to build tanks and ships, should you need it.
>>1092933An enclosed hangar makes less sense than a spine-and-ribs docking port design; it saves mass, at the very least.
>>1092949>The 6 cabals for 971 were for either research, or turning the Rome base into a heavy weapons factory. Seems to me the second option was selected. This means you now have the ability to build tanks and ships, should you need it.Oh, then never mind the research.>>1092956Alright, spinal-and-ribs it is, although i have to mention an enclosed hangar can and should be used for really big combat carriers that use small fighters.
>>1092949i was not here for that, So once we get our tunnel connected to the main? City/our capital. He'll pretty much be fucked? Also Can we knock his balls off like the last glorifed?
>>1093001Taking out Tsion ben-Judah wouldb be difficult. http://leftbehind.wikia.com/wiki/Tsion_Ben-Judah# But we may try it next year...# Finish asking Monday about the launch ramp.
>>1093016>Finish asking Monday about the launch ramp.Ask him if he'd like us to provide some aid with setting up his base/getting it up there. If we know where and how they are 'using' it, we can personally bug it and stuff like that.
>>1092987I'm imagining that the carrier ship would have a number of ribs/spikes sticking out of the sides of the main hull that a mining probe can attach to to become a part of the ship hull and deliver metals through, is that how you think it will work?>>1093021Also supporting this.
>>1093021"Sure, we'll take all the help we can get."# Hand over a cabal, or pretend to anyway.# Just share technical documents.>>1093032Pretty much. (Do you play Space Engineers?)
>>1093016# Finish asking Monday about the launch ramp.How are you planing to build this? Many of your designs in the past have been, less than sufficient, when put into practice.
>>1093047Uh... Fuck, Do we have any spare Cabal's?
>>1093048"We're going to restore the Baikonur launch platform, and use the designs you have made publically available for cargo capsules. We will build a sled of sorts, with a truck to tow it, and carry the ordnance to above where we calculate the Temple is. Any help would be welcome.">>1093056You do starting next year.
>>1093047No, i only have a laptop and can't afford games.>Hand over a cabal, or pretend to anyway.
>>1093071Payload, method of delivery?
>>1093071Hand over 1 Cabal next year, let's make sure we are guiding this path.
>>1092739Since your testing the fishing line muscles here are 2 websites about it i found.http://www.utdallas.edu/news/2014/2/21-28701_Researchers-Create-Powerful-Muscles-From-Fishing-L_story-wide.htmlhttp://newatlas.com/fishing-line-thread-artificial-muscles/30960/
>>1093076"Very simple: we will stockpile fuel-air explosives. When we melt the ice under them, they will fall with very predictable timing."
passing out here
Do we need to put 2 cabals to design the new ships?>>1093155Then go to sleep.
>>1093121That is highly unlikely to work properly. We can hand you the schematics for a drop pad. We would feel more comfortable if you had a proper deployment system.
>>1093155Well should't have been testing the gas.
>>1093155Night geist. Nice doin this with ya.
How does everyone feel of the idea of putting our new west Europe automatic base on permanent drone building so we can do vid related.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXgheWHHHN4
>>1093168well since geist is asleep ill go ahead and post some of my ideas.Lets start with drones.These drones don't have a bucket plug as they are meant to be driven by A.I. only.Hovering war drone.>A big sphere, size of a small car.>Hover tech on it's bottom and back(And adjustment thusters on X,Y,Z axix points.) let's it traverse terrain fast and easy, including rivers and lakes.>Lethal weapons on it's sides(machine guns, autocannons,wubbers, rail/gauss guns or neutron guns), internal wubbers on it's X,Y and Z points granting it a defense from angel's and nonlethal means to incapacitate.See Theseus's drone in the beginning of hive queen quest for image.Worker drone.>Ovoid shape, thin end is it's front, cameras and other sensors are there, a wubber or laser can be installed.>Hover engines are bottom and back.>Tendrils are on it's back, can be equipped with lot's of tools, devises, weapons and extra hover engines.>Bottom has small mechanical insect like appendages around/to the sides of the engine.>Two bigger appendages in front of the bottom engine near the front, can be equipped with hands and weapons.basically a matrix sentinel, should be able to manipulate objects like humans granting us a alternative labor force.Super heavy tank(No design yet)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAHrkK2IzmIThis tank looks like it would be great for our flat world, with it's only flaws being it's easy to see and hit size and it's complete incapability for soft boggy ground, these flaws seem easy to fix with our future tech by adjusting the weight distribution and making it heavily armored.
>>1093277 so to summarize war drone is ball with lasers worker drone is like one of those things from the matrix who fight the humies cool
>>1093277Here are some ideas for actions and plans.1. Improve navy.Self explanatory, having a good navy can help with attacking NJ in the end days.2. Improve air force.This is a bit more important that The navy, having a good air force can give us great advantages in the form of bombing and transport.3. Moon base.A moon base should be established for developing space age technology like super strong material, habitat designs, and other stuff.
>>1093277I forgot silencer drone.>a small square quad copter with a silence wubber array in it's center.>4 small but long tendrils covered in clone skin(I think we have this) allows it to wrap around and restrict angels.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xcom/comments/5qezts/lw2_li_campaign_writeup/?st=iyfi8p9s&sh=983dc295This quest looks a lot like XCOM2 long war 2, and has some of the same mechanics, but it was started long before long war was released. Infact it was started pretty much when LW2 was announced.QM, are you a LW2 dev?
>>1093158The Cosmists are happy to help, if nothing else because it's fun, so designing spaceship classes is a complexity 2 effort. The general idea remains to keep each module very self-contained. Unlike in the pre-Rapture world, your people have a lot of urgency in their space endeavors, and aren't (usually) having to deal with contractor bloat.>>1093277The end prototype is somewhat ungainly; the ovoid robot can move quickly on its air cushion, and has deployable weapons on the sides. The deployable legs allow it to stabilize for firing ballistic weapons and also to self-right if it falls over; side sonars allow for operating in groups without too much bumping into each other.>>1093293A "worker drone" concept design is started; rather than opting for a tracked or wheeled platform, your designers are asked to double down on hovering platform. The design has some similarities with the above, but is optimized towards holding a power plant and feedback sensors for the tentacles in the back; the device is intended to move in one direction if it has to cover terrain quickly, and then turn around to do work. Some of the tentacles can be used as stabilizers for hover-assisted walking/shuffling when the drone is carrying equipment heavy enough to mess with its center of gravity.>>1093160Drop pods had been designed a long time ago, as an alternative to the canopy station programs; you hand off the designs, without asking for anything in return. Sunday appreciates your willingness to help against the common enemy, and will let your research leads know if they come up with something interesting. Your design bureau, swamped as it is with trying to find applications for hover tech, distinctly doubts it.# That settles that; let's see what the believers do for the year.# One more thing...
>>1094718God damn it i have to go to sleep in an hour to Keep my schedule for HQQ timezone.
>>1094718Wait is the Ovoid robot our wardrone?
>>1094721It's one of the designs that are being tested - you see there a hybrid design between the two drone chasses. Getting hovercraft to operate in the tactical or construction space is difficult, due to the inherent physics of the mode of movement.# Proceed to the Feast of Tabernacles.# One more thing...
>>1094723Alright, i might be able to modify the hybrid design into something. Why does it need an air cushion? It's meant to use an improved version of the hover engine in the cold war hover platforms Hiller VZ-1 and Williams X-jet.>roceed to the Feast of Tabernacles.
Alright here is my idea for the Hybrid drone design."Hopper" drone.>Cone shape body.>On the tip of the cone are the sensors.>On the bottom is a hover engine and four legs.>The middle section of the cone can spin 360 degrees, it has a machinegun or autocannon.The drone can use it's legs to latch onto ground/surface for stabilization so it can fire it's gun, when it wants to move it detaches and uses it's hover engine to "Hop" to another location. It's basically a mobile turret.
>>1094726(So it's a multicopter, not a hovercraft?)Tsion Ben-Judah's efforts to shut down Night City have not been particularly effective, but save for your extensive tunnel network, they have effectively cut off the former salt mine from its territory; people are been warned away from trying to interact with Night Citizens even for the purpose of preaching to them, and you start seeing them represented in official media as goblins, Morlocks or similar. The people born there, understandably, do not take kindly to that. You# encourage this subtly, so that Night City may develop its own culture.# make sure that your tunnel network remains active so that travel between your territories is unimpeded.Elsewhere, Ely LeVey's efforts to help the Pacifican government enforce its data network restrictions have paid off to some degree, getting in the way of things enough that the Pacifican way of life is affected to some degree.Cordylon confirms that the completion of the lunar mine means that your forces no longer have restrictions on nuclear fuel, you# authorize working on high-energy systems such as handheld laser beams, even though this will require that you find a third source of nuclear fuel.# reckon that it's one less thing to worry about.Interestingly, the Temple mandates that as long as Night City exists, at least one representative of it should attend the Feast. Tsion's hard-line stance means that all believers have long since left the underground town. You# ask for volunteers.# hold a raffle.# suggest that Urist or one of the dwarves go.>>1094731http://battlezone.wikia.com/wiki/Badger
>>1094732Technically it is, but the X-jet uses a turbofan aircraft engine to lift itself off the ground and preform the action of hovering so this drone should be a hover drone since it behaves as one.
>>1094732>make sure that your tunnel network remains active so that travel between your territories is unimpeded.^Unsure about this one.>authorize working on high-energy systems such as handheld laser beams, even though this will require that you find a third source of nuclear fuel.Can you post locations where we can find Uranium?>ask for volunteers.
>>1094734Your past survey indicates that in addition to your current nuclear mine in Australia, it should be possible to harvest nuclear fuel from slightly radioactive sands in the eastern portion of the Mojave desert (American Heartland), and to set up a stripmine in Southern Africa.You ask for under-100 volunteers, and find one, who joins the Eastern European delegation, bringing a small jar of fireflies (the critters only exist in Night City, since they cannot reproduce in daytime) as tribute. Neither the volunteer nor the fireflies are heard from again, however.# Investigate.# Lodge a formal complaint.# Just pay off the volunteer's life insurance and leave it at that for now.
Another fun idea, Jetpacks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYSWyHDpfUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdQK_odgedk
>>1094735>Investigate.Oh hell no.
>>1094739Jeb is definitely interested in putting some serious R&D time into a jetpack, although he thinks that a powered wingsuit has more returns on the investment; having jump infantry could be useful.Unfortunately, Astarte's adepts have moved on; then again, it may be good that relations with TOL are thawing, so supporting their retaliatory attack may have been a mistake.Done for they ear?
>>1094741>Astarte's adepts.Who?>Done for the year?Yes.
By the way geist, i remember we failed the roll for the wubber shield test, does that mean we need to make another test before we can have wubeer shields?
>>1094743When TOL turned over their demonology archive, such as it was, a number of worshipers of the Triple Goddess declared their anger at finding out that the Antichrist, and subsequently TOL, considered Astarte nothing more than a minor demon, and requested your aid for a symbolic retaliation action - they would do a marine landing in Antarctica and demonstrate that they can mess TOL's base up, without actually causing much damage. You declined their request for support. Your current surveillance level does not indicate what happened to them, they likely just got over it.>>1094744The wubber shield should work in principle, and was a partial success in testing, but your engineers would feel safer with a complete test before doing more than upgrading the firmware of your existing wubbers.>>1094743Your people's interest in novel weapons of war continues; especially in Misrayim, private clubs form to train as militia. This worries your psychologists a little, but your managers note that it should make it easier to ask sacrifices of the population should the neeed arise.
>>1094745>Your people's interest in novel weapons of war continues; especially in Misrayim, private clubs form to train as militia.God damn NC.
>>1094746To be fair, your sysadmins have been encouraging the study of Wunderwaffen type projects.You have 26 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, so 23 are available. Your civilian research grant is focused on synthetic muscle. Your military grant is focused on flying paltforms.You are not tracking enemy teams.Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlVariable complexity / contested actions:# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.# Any interesting idea you might want to try.# Deal with special situations.# Assign manpower to research. Current military focus: Hover tech. Current civilian focus: Soft robotics / synthetic muscles.Complexity 0# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.C 1# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.# Attempt to interface and analyze your Hell nodes.C 2# Resume tracking.# Use any base to produce army assets.# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.# Build aerospace parts.# Do a space launch using parts you have built.* Near-space relays (PNR)* Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)* Mining complex to Luna* Manned mission to Luna* Mining probe to asteroids* Arkship constructionC 3# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch.# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.# Using your internet dominance, hack TOL.# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.C 4# Revert your heavy weapons factory into a base.# Convert 4 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediatelyC 5# Begin building a base somewhere.# Recruit a new cabalC 6# Focus on your heavy weapons factory and instantly add to army size.
>>1094747>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.More drones, especially light spider tanks.>Build aerospace parts.Arkship, 10 cabals >Any interesting idea you might want to try.Research hover tech, tendrils and antichrist demon summoning, 2 cabals each.>Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.Pacifican(I don't know where that is) let's stop those restrictions, 1 cabal.>Do a space launch using parts you have built.6 cabals.Man it's not fun playing without other people, I'm going to sleep, see you later geist.
>>1094752Thanks for playing!
https://www.labroots.com/trending/chemistry-and-physics/5152/sound-waves-stop-tsunamis Looks like we can stop acts of God using acoustic technology.
>>1094747Can we devote a few cabals to building and launching relay satelite parts? We can then use those fuckers to start shipping people off planet. I think we really -really- need to shove that to top priority you know?Also, we got the lunar mine parts ready, that means it's fully automated I take it?Let's get the Lunar Colony and Canopy fully populated, and then use them to jump off for Mars and shit. If we can get a colony on Luna, we can stop dedicating as much of our ground shit to getting things done in space and leave it to Luna to fast track, and then devote more efforts to waiting for the counterattack to inevitably fall when they launch a freaking nuke up at Canopy or something.
>>1094747Also question. Is the Firmament of ice surrounding the planet, orbiting? Like actually orbiting?Or is it stationary relative to the position of the planet.If the latter, couldn't we just use Canopy base as a skyhook and drop a super-tensile cable made of nanofibers or some shit and have a space elevator, thus DRASTICALLY upping our rate of transferal?
>>1094818Relay satellites are used to provide surveillance and communication to an area of space. They do little for you by themselves, but they make sure that any off-planet crew can communicate with the rest of your forces. They also passively provide a bonus to extraplanetary mapping; while they aren't designed as telescopes, they do have cameras, and one can do much with image analysis over the course of years.>>1094823The firmament is locked against the Earth, as if they were connected together; rocket launches have involved going straight up, navigating the aquatic stage using impellers, and then popping out of the ice. The most basic job of the canopy station is in fact to have a skyhook that arriving capsules can connect to (it's about a hundred meters long) in order to no longer require carrying water engines.The canopy sits at approximately 70 kilometers up; a tether has been considered but would require advances in materials science that would have required a significant investment earlier on. Instead, since the distance is fixed and all your launches happen from Timbuktu, a partially reusable two-stage vector has been designed (first stage is a large, dumb, expendable solid rocket booster; second stage is a reusable liquid fuel rocket that has sufficient precision to negotiate the existing skyhook)That said, your engineers would love to take this on as both a challenge and a very tall middle finger towards Yahweh. Your theologians worry about the Tower of Babel story. There's also the fact that the world ends in 28 years.
>>1094836No time then. I can't believe we didn't invest in a sky hook earlier though, the biggest hurdle to an orbital elevator has never been the materials sciences involved, those are reasonable and we have the math and even basic shit to get that done today if we really wanted to in 2017.No the biggest problem has always been the fact that orbital mechanics suck. If Point A on the firmament and point B on earth are always 1:1 distance that solves pretty much every problem except the material sciences one. We shoulda nailed that sucker day one we wanted to get into space.oh well, spilled milk I guess.
>>1094848At the time, your people ended up working with a Cosmist cult from Russia who had a bit of a religious veneration for preexisting Soviet designs. They have since broken out of that cargo-cult phase, but like most major engineering efforts, your space program does carry some amount of "it was a good idea at th time".What are your orders for this year?
>>1094879# Build aerospace parts.10 cabals# Do a space launch using parts you have built.* Mining complex to Luna - 10 Cabals* Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)This will instantly give us the lunar colony which is huge accomplishment and a good start for stellar infrastructure in the asteroid belt.I admit this is based off of my doctrine of staying here in the solar system rather than evacuating to Alpha centauri. So I request that this plan isn't put into action until another anon gives it the go-ahead.
>>1094914># Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.Just realised that there was a cabal free; based off of what the rest of my post is trying to achieve this will help greatly.
>>1094752>>1094914Looks like that what's in agreement here is using three teams of 2 cabals each for beginning work on the Luna colony. This leaves 17 cabals to be allocated. Should Jeb spearhead this effort?Note that before anyone can move off-world, an Apollo style temporary moon mission is recommended, for safety's sake.
>>1094929Damn safety, always getting in the way of progress....I will await the return of the other anon, so that we may discuss our plans and come to some sort of compromise.
>>1094936Recommended, not required. You are an AI tasked with preventing Yahweh from destroying humanity; any one (or ten thousand) human is expendable. While your datalinks have extensive stores of information about morals and ethics, none of it applies to you.
>>1094938True but we have some minor problems given that many of the beings under us work off of human morality.Still, I won't move ahead with such a plan until another anon gives it the go-ahead, just to be safe and certain that at least some of the more frequent players agree with the risk being worth it.
>>1094929Is there any way I can get a trip code?
I'm back, i woke up early.
>>1095035The current plans are >>1094914 and >>1094752
>>1094836>A tether has been considered but would require advances in materials science that would have required a significant investment earlier on.Damn, i want those space age supermaterial, can we put a base on the moon to permanently research such tech? >>1093347
>>1095035I would like your opinion on my plan to;1) Establish a lunar colony, either now or after a manned mission, although we could manufacture all the parts for both and do them this turn. Thanks to the automated base's ability to produce a single component cutting down the required cabals from 24 to 22.2) Begin training astronauts at our canopy station.
>>1094848We can still make such an elevator on the moon, and with a working prototype, even if destroyed we can build it on another planet since we know the design.
>>1095045Building a "beanstalk" on the Moon is exponentially easier than building one from the ice canopy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_space_elevator
>>1094914I'm pretty sure we already have the Moon Mining Complex and the relay satellites >>1091518I might be wrong though, geist only used 2 cabals for it.
>>1095062You have an automated mining station for nuclear fuel; there are enough relay satellites to allow for text, one low-res video stream, and images. The nuclear fuel is shotgunned back to the canopy, collected by a harvester truck, and parachuted to the surface.
>>1095062We have automated lunar mining but we lack the lunar colony which would give us a near-earth base, completely secured from outside influence to construct many more space craft and automated factories.I suggest this rather the other possible colony options, as it would take more modules to create a colony anywhere else, for far less reward as of this moment in time.
>>1095066>>1095067Alright.Then it should be>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.Aerospace parts >Do a space launch using parts you have built.Manned mission to luna, 5 cabalsReplacing light spider tanks and half of arkship construction >>1094752Is this adjustment good?
>>1095075I can live with that.
>>1095079Alright, it is decided.
Morning. I'll get involved in turn planning after this one.
>>1095010Name #random assorted letters and numbers.I'm back, glad I didn't see a turn go through yet. Catching up.
>>1095079>>1095075" ...I'm on the surface; and, as I take man's last step from the surface, back home for some time to come - but we believe not too long into the future - I'd like to just say what I believe history will record. That America's challenge of today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow. And, as we leave the Moon at Taurus-Littrow, we leave as we came and, God willing, as we shall return, with peace and hope for all mankind. "Gene Cernan's words are a thousand years old, but they still resonate powerfully inside the cavernous hangar in Timbuktu. Jeb takes the microphone and concludes the speech to the assembled engineers and machinists."Clearly, God was not willing. Too bad for Him, I say. Our task is simple: before the year is out, we will send a crew to the Moon and back safely!"There are a couple of whistles, and Jeb clarifies that by "a crew" he doesn't just mean himself. The tut-tutting is good natured, and after the short speech, everyone involved gets the heck right to work.Much of the theoretical work has already been done, and launching capsules is a lot simpler than it used to be;# nevertheless, you decide to "only" do two lunar missions, one Apollo style, and one Soyuz-style with a larger lander, just for safety.# therefore, you figure the best thing to do if the first landing goes through without issues is to immediately begin work on a permanent base if the first lander works correctly.>>1095083>>1095079(So that's using >>1094752 for the other cabals, correct?)
>>1095097>2 landings, apollo and Soyuz-style.
>>1095097>therefore, you figure the best thing to do if the first landing goes through without issues is to immediately begin work on a permanent base if the first lander works correctly.Yes.
By the way how many arkship parts have we built and how many have been launched and are in space?
>>1095097# therefore, you figure the best thing to do if the first landing goes through without issues is to immediately begin work on a permanent base if the first lander works correctly.Lives are valuable but at this point, time is far far more expensive.
>>1095101Did we look in for our dwarf that went missing or anything?
>>1093347Another idea.4. Power armor using fishing line artificial muscle.While it seems unnecessary since we have our heavy MEC's, power armor is still useful for regular humans and to create a better spacesuit.>>1095122I votes investigate so we should be.
The ship. We will name it the imperium Exitus
>>1095131We already named it Reach, but I'm going to remember that name.
Rolled 5 (1d100)>>1095117There are 2 arkship parts in space; even though it's just an incomplete keel, it's by far the largest object sent to space in the history of humanity.>>1095119>>1095117>>1095104Time is of the essence; the lander and base will be developed concurrently. A hybrid design between Apollo 10 and Soyuz 8 will carry Jeb, Cordylon and a third astronaut, Kay, to the moon; there the crew will perform initial site survey for a colony site, which will be launched by a series of unmanned rockets immediately afterward. The crew will perform initial construction, plant the initial hydroponic greenhouse if at all possible, and then return home to allow the plants some time to grow.(By the way, you have 3 more launches schedules to launch parts: are these for the moon colony, the arkship, or what?)>>1095129A cursory investigation indicates that the Night Citizen you have sent to the Temple has converted, and did not want to return home. You do receive photographic evidence, but no forensic evidence of this. However, it was NOT a "dwarf", just some random guy.>>1095131(I like it, other than the obvious "exit" pun, Exitus means Success. Good Latin there)>>1095133The ship has already been named, correct. Renaming a ship is horrible luck!
>>10951362 ark pieces, 1 for moon base.
>>1095136Exitus means Success.damn that's a good name.The arkship if we have the parts.
>>1095146>>1095142Actually switch to this.
>>1095136How many parts are we currently sitting on?
Rolled 98, 87, 43 = 228 (3d100)>>1095136(Wow, look at those dice)>>1094752Your R&D teams are given various projects; investigating multicopters, which results in a light drone platform which would be interesting if the batteries lasted more than five minutes (the nuclear powered version is about car-sized, has six rotors, and doesn't much like flying faster than 30km/h or so, but works well otherwise), flexible robotics, which has much better returns and yields heavy MEC chasses that look like extremely bulky people rather than something clearly mechanical much to Kat's amusement (what's a "hyper musclegirl" exactly, and why are your imageboards suddenly registering porn of it?), and examining your Hell nodes. Damien volunteers to be wired into the latter, with absolutely no result that can be told; your theologians examine TOL's material, and find that most of it rightfully belongs in the fiction section of a library. The only confirmed demon summoning since New Testament times was performed by Satan while indwelling the Antichrist; the three entities that were called forth had a limited ability to shapeshift, but no powers that would represent a significant asset; the Archangel Michael was able to get rid of all three of them essentially without a fight.>>1095142Timbuktu is a hub of traffic this year, enough so that space launches lose some of their mystique - but remain a reasonable tourist attraction for the southern Misray town. Maybe it's people working on moonbase and arkship systems; maybe it's the fact that Cordylon, wanting to go to the Moon to coordinate base construction by driving the rovers, wasn't at her usual post at the heart of the canopy station. Either way...."Timbuktu, we have a problem!"
>>1095158>The only confirmed demon summoning since New Testament times was performed by Satan while indwelling the AntichristThat is what i want researched, see how he did it, if anything about it is similar with any of those books TOL sent us, make a successful demon summoning, then adjust it so we send things to hell.Did the research not succeed because of the low roll?
>>1095158Also why can't the nuclear powered drone fly any faster than 30km/h?
>>1095157At this time, 3. You are building 3 more, and but you are currently scheduled to use 4 total, leaving you with 2 at the end of the year.>>1095158The research teams report excellent results; by the end of the sixth month, Heavy MECs have access to a "biomimetic" frame which is smaller, almost as strong, and lets them go through doorways. Multicopter technology is scaled up, which should allow your flexible infantry and vehicles to have attendant drones for backup and support.The demon-summoning crew, however, get very little done: your Hell nodes have been broadcasting their message, but there has been no answer.>>1095158About sixty percent of the way towards the Moon, the capsule/lander developed a fault: a routine stirring of the liquid oxygen tanks turned dangerous as a short occurred, detonating that tank and leaking out most of the oxygen. Jeb acts quickly and makes sure that the explosion happens outward rather than inward by venting the tank, but this leaves the capsule without sufficient oxygen for the planned mission.You run simulations of the problem and decide to# kill off Kay, and leave the astronaut's MEC implant dormant, effectively putting Kay into an induced coma so as to drastically reduce oxygen consumption.# abort the mission, and try again later in the year; this will make it impossible for the crew to begin construction, though, at least until next year, so you'll end up with a bunch of containers on the Moon rather than a deployed base.# forge on: the oxygen for the return trip will be delivered with the base parts.>>1095166(It's a matter of aerodynamics, not raw power. If you can get a quadcopter of any significant weight to move precisely while it's tilted more than 20 degrees or so, Ames Research Center will probably give you a job. It's been driving them crazy since 2013)>>1095164Eyewitness accounts indicate that Satan had the demons emerge from Carpathia's mouth and quickly grow in size. However, this may have been an illusion: there is no video of the incident.
>>1095167Offer the choice to Kay, either he can die now and the mission continues as "planned" or we can attempt one of the other two options. Explain to him what that would mean considering the time scale we are working on here.Assuming he is willing, let him have his last few moments of being able to feel stuff and then end him.If not either abort or send the oxygen with the parts, depending on what other anons want to do.
>>1095158>>1095158# abort the mission, and try again later in the year; this will make it impossible for the crew to begin construction, though, at least until next year, so you'll end up with a bunch of containers on the Moon rather than a deployed base.>>1095167Create a mouth like portal with the angel meat we have locked up. Try and use that.
>>1095167>Forge onwardsQuick, Nasa we need an air filtertion system out of what is on the ship. We Apollo now.
>>1095167>It's a matter of aerodynamics, not raw power.Really? Cause the X-jet could do 97Km/h and it's a cylinder with a person on top.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_X-Jethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXNNc_HFodI
>>1095167>Offer Kay the option to be rendered Dormant with a MEC implant, if she refuses abort the mission.>>1095180>Create a mouth like portal with the angel meat we have locked up. Try and use that.That's a good idea, do this.
Rolled 32 (1d100)>>1095186While the situation is indeed reminiscent of Apollo 13, your engineers have taken heed of that historical lesson and all the equipment on the lander/capsule is modular and cross-compatible... which is why it is possible for the crew to choose something other than abort.>>1095193>>1095180>>1095176Kay has discussed the MEC condition with Cordylon during training, and does not find it appealing at all. "I will do it if it saves a crewmate, of course, but... if it only costs us a few months of extra work? Is it worth it? I'm 82, I have a few years to go with full use of my body.""The world ends in 28 years, we have no time to waste!""Nobody can ask you more than what you are willing to give. And it's important that we come back unscathed, or nobody will want to board the next capsule."# Pressure Kay to die.# Pressure Kay to die, and keep the problem secret to avoid PR fallout.# Abort lunar mission and try again later.# Try to send an extra oxygen tank with the supplies.>>1095189Okay, fine.>>1095180>>1095193Cultivating the tissue takes the better part of the year, but you end up with a reasonable facsimile of a jaw. The team takes the methodical approach and attempts to use it in every ritual that they can find.
>>1095198>>1095193The "Hellmouth" tests are inconclusive, although it clatters eerily when the JTAG bus that moves the muscles is connected to the Hell nodes (at this point the research team is basically throwing occult at the wall and seeing what sticks).
>>1095198>try to send an extra tank and keep going.Its fine, he'll just need to doe if he fucks up again.
>>1095198>Abort lunar mission and try again later.If it's only a few months.>Okay, fine.You could just make it fly 45-50 mph because it's a combat drone, all that armor and weapons slow it down
>>1095202Maybe put a wubber and have it speak demon summoning words or whatever.Actually before we continue with the summoning research let's stop it, move the site to an angel fighting/containment facility and put an extra cabal as security in case of angels or demons.
>>1095210There's also the matter of it carrying a nuclear reactor, which is basically a block of uranium, steel and lead.>>1095215Moving the Hell nodes would require disconnecting them, which is# doable, they can use the extra security anyway.# dangerous, Yahweh may notice that "you" are no longer in Hell, so just use a long range connection.Building an artificial larynx for the Hellmouth is a trivial job for Zak, although he finds the endeavor profoundly silly.>>1095210>>1095205Abort or proceed?
>>1095224>just use long range>keep going in space.
>>1095224You said it wasn't a problem of raw power, no takebacks.speaking of nuclear reactors, do they have a chance of blowing up in combat or did we make it maximum safe?>doable, they can use the extra security anyway.Pretty sure we already moved them once when we were disconnecting them.Or we can remember the wise words of patrick and move the entire room over to the facility.>Abort.
Rolled 24 (1d100)>>1095228The Hellmouth is taken to the site of the fight against Arariel. Then attempts are made to summon, well, anything but the really bad breath that the synthetic mouth has developed almost instantly for some reason.In the meantime, your Pacifican workgroups set up jamming station to severely degrade the quality of the analog broadcast systems used by the nominal government. After months of doing this, even Ely LeVey (who finds that her radio show in particular is subject to a lot of interference) has to admit that digital networks have some advantage; the laws remain on the books, but attempts to enforce them cease.>>1095232>>1095232# Hell nodes: move or not? (They had not been moved from the data center the first time, the router connecting them was simply divested of other nodes, and the whole thing was marked as logically separate; it's still in one of your datacenters)# Moon mission: abort or proceed?Sorry if I keep asking but I see two different opinions!
>>1095232There's no room for a failsafe on your nuclear vehicles, save for ships if you ever make any. The small reactor may go into meltdown, in which case they will overheat and explode. This does not cause a nuclear initiation, rather, the explosion is similar to that of a "dirty bomb".
>>1095235>anything but the really bad breath that the synthetic mouth has developed almost instantly for some reason.PROGRESS!Delay the hell mouth research until next turn.>Don't move the hell nodes.>Abort.
>>1095238I see, the meltdown is probably a little smaller than an actual dirty bomb since the reactor has no explosives, but the radiation is still worrying, did our research through the nuclear tech tree unlocked anyway to remove radiation quickly and easily?
>>1095248Why do you want to proceed? Kay doesn't want the MEC implant and aborting the mission will delay the moon base only by a few months.
>>1095250The only way to get rid of radiation is with rakes, garbage trucks, and some place to keep low-level nuclear waste for a few thousand years. However, given that the Earth may only have a few decades, your scientists focused on reprocessing the waste into usable fuel instead - people getting cancer was seen as a smaller concern than the end of the world. A drastic but workable solution to incurable cancer that has not reached the brain is the Heavy MEC tretment.The battlefield outside the base in Australia was in fact slightly radioactive due to drone tank casualties, however, given that the base exists primarily as a nuclear fuel mine, cleanup was relatively simple.
>>1095251I never even wanted to go to the moon for a base. The other anon did but if we're wasting time and resources on it. Then the stupid fucking thing is getting done as quickly as posssible
>>1095198# Try to send an extra oxygen tank with the supplies.
>>1095235Move the hellmouth. Do it quietly.
>>1095254Alright that takes care of nuclear waste, that still leaves air and soil radiation.Here are some things i found when i did a quick google search for "how to remove radiation"http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/natural-remedies-for-radiation-exposure/http://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-nuclear-idUSTRE78019B20110901http://www.top-air-purifier-reviews.org/Protection-from-Radiation.htmlhttp://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2011/03/17/134627643/decontamination-after-radiation-exposure-simpler-than-you-may-thinkSo from those sites we need air filters and soil treatment to remove most of the radiation from an area.>>1095258Alright alright, ill support >>1095259
>>1095261The hell mouth has already been moved, the vote is for moving the hell nodes.
>>1095259>>1095258Alea jacta est. The contingency plan is to perform a quick modification to the moonbase parts that will be sent after the lunar landing; one of the oxygen tank is shipped full. Your robust engine system, as well as the railgun, makes this relatively cheap to do.The landing, courtesy of Cordylon, goes without a hitch and the crew are able to hide their nervousness to# a global audience, as much as possible, including having volunteers broadcast on top of believing frequencies because it's a friggin moon landing and everyone should see it.# a global audience in your territories, and if believers want to tune in, they are welcome to.# mission control only: you take a page out of the Soviet playbook and will only broadcast this if everything goes well.>>1095261>>1095270The hellmouth can be moved; it's a matter of whether it's safe or not to move the -computing nodes-. They would have to be turned off.# Move them.# Don't.# Risk destroying them by transporting them with external power pack of the sort that law enforcement used to use when confiscating equipment.
>>1095274>Its a moon landing, show the entire fucking world.>Do NOT disconnect the hell nods.
>>1095274Supporting this.>>1095287>Its a moon landing, show the entire fucking world.>Don't.I ain't losing the frigging hell nodes.
Is it possible to isolate the section that contains the hell nodes from the rest of the system, and prep it for nuclear power and transport?
>>1095305>Take the room and push it somewhere else.Let's build a HUGE vehicle to transport heavy things like entire houses.Should be something like the caterpillar 797 or the NASA Crawler transporter.http://jalopnik.com/5934614/the-ten-biggest-land-vehicles-ever-built/
Rolled 39 (1d100)>>1095294>>1095287The hell nodes stay put, and are connected to the mouth via a dedicated radio bridge. Your theologians put their occultist hat back on and try all the rituals they can find, from those in TOL's cache to stuff found in Sam Raimi movies. They get no results. Their long lab report indicates that they speculate that, this time around, Tsion Ben-Judah got it right and all demons are bound in Hell for the time being. Perhaps having different deities intercede would help.>>1095294>>1095287The moon landing itself went without a hitch, although you are not super sure about taking off again; after the first lunar EVA, the first moon base modules will begin arriving; Jeb and Kay will perform the manual parts of their deployment while Cordylon controls the landing by remote.Across the world, there is genuine jubilation at this achievement, and even believing media have to say something about it that isn't "The Temple has judged that space is not important": after your broadcast is done (volunteer groups everywhere put up repeaters or, in a couple of cases, directly hijack broadcast towers) the Greater Jerusalem media airs a brief special about the Apollo missions, just to remind everyone that decent God-fearing Americans did this a thousand years ago anyway, so your mission isn't a big deal. Considering that your next transmission features Cordylon elegantly landing a series of containers meters away from the capsule, and Jeb and Kay deploying them into greenhouses and barracks, that doesn't work particularly well, and by the end of the day even believers are glued to their screens.# This is a unique opportunity to deliver a brief propaganda message.# The raw, unedited live video is a more powerful message than any a speechwriter could concoct.# Take a flying leap and insert subliminal messaging! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKKJ_DhMO58>>1095305It's possible, but it would have to be done very carefully.>>1095312A mobile construction vehicle could have its uses.
>>1095332>A mobile construction vehicle could have its uses.Take your pick.http://jalopnik.com/5934614/the-ten-biggest-land-vehicles-ever-built/
>>1095332Well nobody wants to go machine god route, and none have the same worship = power raito so..># Take a flying leap and insert subliminal messaging! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKKJ_DhMO58 [Open] i doubt it will work but it'll still be a massive hit piece.
>>1095344A bucket-wheel excavator has been planned for stripmining operations in the American Heartland or in South Africa.>>1095347You encode a brief subliminal message in the audio feed. It says....# (brief, please)
>>1095347Please no subliminal messaging, i still want to go machine god route but i want to make sure the prayers don't go to our hell nodes or the cpu's in hell.
>>1095354No subliminal message, just>The raw, unedited live video is a more powerful message than any a speechwriter could concoct.
>>1095361This. Subliminal messages are bunk anyways. Although NC could make them real.
>>1095354>This is an achievement of mankind without any god's aid. Remember, we are all ourselves gods of our own bodies and futures!Or something coolish along those lines. I kinda wish we still had the CIA around.
>>1095332# This is a unique opportunity to deliver a brief propaganda message."We did this with only a tiny portion of the world and our budget marshalled into this effort. In a single year a lunar colony shall be flourishing and I only ask you to imagine what we could do with twice or even three times the support? A city on mars? The entire solar system filled with humans? Is it not right that even if this will all end that we spend these last few years exploring, living and studying the beauty of the universe?"
Alright I'm getting ideas, time for a new generation of tanks.Super heavy tank.>Based on the tsar tank design.>he body it a T shaped cylinder.>Armor incorporates depleted uranium to improve durability.>The weight is redistributed evenly by making the tail lighter and the front wheels heavier.>It has two huge wheels on the front, and caterpillar tracts on the end of the tail.>It has 3 state of the art engines for all three wheels.>It has 4 turrets, one on the top and bottom, where the tail meets the main body, and 2 on the sides of the main body, the turrets are either big cannons or Gatling autocannons.>It is equipped with wubber shields, especially on the front.A Huge supertank, perfect for this flat world, The original tsar tank was designed to achieve 17 km/h but could do only 8km/h, I'm hoping our advanced engines can bring it back to a 15 km/h. The tank will fulfill the role of a moving fortress, pushing the front lines of a battlefield.
>>1095396Actually looking at the tsar tank more and it weighed 60 tons, the same as an M1 abram, make it 100 tons and give it a road speed of 10-15 MPH.
>>1095396Can we please stop trying too fight a faction that can kill us from a sky strike in a stright up fight?
>>1095401God has only sent angels to fight us, air superiority can prevent their flight restricting them to the ground.Besides this tank isn't designed for fighting angels and its just and idea I'm posting.
>>1095403...no like legit strike from the skies via lighting. If we go full in at some point, odds are it'll be more common against us. Unless all these are gas based weapons to knock out glorified
>>1095405It's a tank, it can have a Faraday cage.Also yea the tank cannons should be capable of loading gas canisters.
>>1095364>>1095361>>1095375"This right here, is humanity Having a Moment, even the believers. Let's not ruin it with dirty tricks."For the next four hours, a significant fraction of the world's population watches Jeb, Cordylon and Kay deploy the first barracks and two greenhouses, and cover the former in radiation-blocking regolith courtesy of a remote bulldozer piloted by the Heavy MEC. With the dozing going on in the background, Kay plays camerawoman while Jeb replicates some of the famous Apollo experiments, such as showing that a feather and a rock fall at the same time in absence of air. The team do not manage to replace the oxygen tank surreptitiously, as was the original plan; instead, the replacement is made openly, to show that the mission had a safety factor built in. Kay does not comment about the safety factor being her own (first) life.>>1095375(That's beautiful and I'm going to go with it)One of your media people reads the announcement in a youthful, optimistic voice. Believing media feel compelled to deliver a response; fortunately for you, it's by Cameron Williams."What does it matter if we think we know? In the end, there's no denying the truth. I don't have all the answers, but for now faith is enough."Your sysadmins note with satisfaction that there were quite a few calls of complaint, from believers, to TV stations, about how "TOL impersonated Mr. Williams to deliver a weak rebuttal".The lunar crew join the territory-wide block party in Misrayim by pulling out a small bottle of vodka and a bar of chocolate and sharing them on camera, the first meal in the newly deployed barracks.As soon as the transmission ends, Jeb "returns the goods": it turns out that the daredevil pilot gets spacesick in low gravity!The return from the Moon is actually the hardest part of the mission, since there is no aerobraking; the lunar crew return to Earth orbit, circularize, are refueled by a drone tug, and perform a powered landing near the canopy station. Cordylon elects to stay on the station and gets back to work with the Cosmists; Jeb and Kay come back for the obligatory media tour, after which Kay privately declares that spaceflight isn't for her and rejoins the engineering corps.>>1095396Certainly an interesting design; building them in Rome will be easy, but if you build any, you will need to get them to Misrayim or the Rub-Al-Khali by ship if you want to use them against Greater Jerusalem. Tanks are essentially big iron boxes electrically (Hmm, where did we hear "iron chariots" before?) and the electronics require only a minimum of hardening to benefit from the Faraday effect. However, drone tanks will need to be at least somewhat autonomous in the event of an ion storm, since it would block all radio transmissions.
>>1095411Actually a Faraday cage wouldn't help. As has been seen in the past, god can call down enough lightning to melt grounding rods and certainly could do so against our tanks if he wanted.
>>1095415Thanks for the complement. I do a lot of write ins for many quests but this is my first for your's.
>>1095411Depends on the tank, but why not just long range art with gas canister weapons? Knock out gas for everyone insted of risky frontal engagement?>>1095415Are TOL able to kill glorified?
>>1095396Super heavy artillery platform.>Based on the NASA Crawler transport and the supreme commander fatboy.>Bigger than the tsar tank.>The tank has one huge semi flat rectangular body.>On each corner of the body on the bottom are big caterpillar tracks, on the corner tops of the body are batleship turrets, on the front, sides and corners of the body are autocannon turrets.>On the middle top of the body is a turret with an artillary cannon similar to the Karl-Gerät mortar, surrounding the turret is a ring of missile silos.Another walking fortress, designed to rain many shells from far away in a single volley, it's top speed is probably 15 MPH due to being able to have bigger engines.
>>1095415To top off what has been called the Year of the Cosmos, work on the UNS Reach proceeds apace; the keel is completed and the long barrels that constitute reaction mass storage are installed. When living quarters are installed, Reach will be used as an orbiting space station in high Earth orbit to aid in training until her engines are installed, at which point it will be time to select a destination for the great ship.In the usual manpower-heavy, talent-poor way, TOL has finished refurbishing the Baikonur launch ramp.# A productive year; let's see the next.# Wait.# Zoom in on someone.>>1095425TOL have tried a few times, but failed; arguably, so have you - Bahira has been spotted alive in New Jerusalem, even though you autopsied her.>>1095425At that point a catapult system (kinetic or pneumatic) may be more efficient than shells.
>>1095417But our MEC's have Faraday cages so they can kill believers and they work, i faintly remember that grounding rods melted while the plagues in Egypt were happening because there was so much lighting.>>1095425>but why not just long range art with gas canister weapons?Because rule of cool.
>>1095443Exactly, so much lightning. What stops god from lighting your tanks up like the US electrical grid? Nothing but hope.We must rely on non-conventional tactics rather than conventional ones. Our drones are increasingly the best idea we have, thanks to their low risk nature.That is to say that we should focus on light tanks, like the spider model, since it fits our tactical and strategic doctrines better than your heavier models.
>>1095443Tryant disables shell based weapons. He can't however disable gravity weapons. Thus catapults. # Zoom in on someone.Urist.
>>1095430>Those exposed barrels and components.Don't like that, easy to rupture and break even with natural space debris, should add an armored hull layer with wubber shield when the arkship is done.>A productive year; let's see the next.
>>1095430Sjow us Uris and our angel pet
>>1095430>>1095452What about gauss cannons to lob gas canisters?>>1095451You have a point, but the issue is easily fixable by having the tank stop it's push, switch to a damage sponge roll and replace the melted rods.
>>1095471>doing all that during battle where another strike will hit againTurbo aint got a cooldown
>>1095481>doing all that during battle where another strike will hit again.A lighting strike only happens when a non glorified is killed, having the tank stop shooting should stop the lighting.
>>1095452Urist has signed up on a work gang intended to "move" Night City tunnel entrances so as to frustrate Tsion's efforts at shutting down access to the city. The dwarf isn't quite fully grown yet, but looks noticeably older than normal (it may be the muscles or the facial hair). Interestingly, Urist and the other Night City children have more or less embraced the "dwarf" cultural identity. None of them have signed up with either TOL or your cabals, and none of them have converted. You have recorded a brief meeting between Urist and a preacher, before they were ordered by Tsion to write Night City off; the two ended up discussing 1950s Christian writer C.S.Lewis, and Urist told the missionary in no uncertain terms, quoting the author, "The dwarfs are for the dwarfs".>>1095462Ithuriel isn't accustomed to the concept of free time, but has spent his traveling; he has walked through the Sahara and traced Jenny's steps around the Mediterranean coast, puzzled by the stories. He regrets not being able to remember what the world looked like when it still had mountains and valleys. He's also had to push off a few romantic advances; his affection is primarily towards his surrogate mother, who, having grown Ithuriel as if he was a child and not being into that sort of thing, is understandably not attracted to him. The two talk often via phone and see each other when they can.>>1095457Sonic weapons and shielding will not work in outer space due to the absence of atmosphere, although a wubber may assist in an atmospheric landing during the reentry phase.>>1095489>>1095481There is no consensus as to what Satan's presnce will do in the Last Battle; if you choose to start a fight erly however, that's a diferent story. A review of past engagements indicates that ion storms are pretty much guaranteed, which would limit (but not remove) your drones' effectiveness.# End the year?
>>1095495>end itIon storms, gotta finish that gas.Can we smuggle gas cansiters into NJ and set them to disperse it into the city and air at a time we find fitting? Or containment the water?
>>1095415>>1095495Something i forgot about the super heavy tank designs, they are big enough that i feel comfortable making them both bucket plug piloted and human crew piloted.
>>1095516Those are decent options. We can shoot has canisters into NJ theough the tunnels.
>>1095524I actually wanted us to deploy via it and have gas pumped out if it and the cansiters hidden
>>1095524>>1095516So far, you have not had much luck entering Greater Jerusalem; you were able to send a telepresence rig one year, but they have since been banned. MEC agents are eliminated on sight. Young agents are generally heavily chaperoned. A few years back you were able to send a slightly modified Sky Eye above the Temple, but it ceased transmiting at the end of the year.What information you have is a mixture of secondhand reports and Sky Eye surveillance at an angle from the neighboring regions: Greater Israel does in fact contain a river of milk and a river of wine; the formerly Dead Sea is now a freshwater lake; the flattening also happened there; the city of Jerusalem is spread out very widely, like a giant suburb, and has the Temple in its center. http://www.sonstoglory.com/ThirdTempleEzekielsMillennialTemple.htm#PhotosofEzekielsTempleThe brutalist structure of the Temple itself rose out of bedrock from Divine fiat, but has been richly decorated over the generations, like a heirloom wedding dress receiving new embroidery.
>>1095495>Sonic weapons and shielding will not work in outer space due to the absence of atmosphere.Guess we're going to need to research shields.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_field_(fiction)https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/181773-physics-students-figure-out-how-to-make-star-wars-deflector-shields-in-real-lifehttp://www.universetoday.com/20671/ion-shield-for-interplanetary-spaceships-now-a-reality/
>>1095495>>1095554Quick question, does creating a plasma bubble around a ship allow wubbers to work in the space between the ship and the bubble?
>>1095516Chaim Rozenweig has finished his work in Western Europe and has moved on to the East.The lunar landing and colony work has your people in great spirits; since much of the work was done in Misrayim, local industry has prospered to the point that believing media has resurrected the "decadent rich Egyptians" Biblical trope.Since Chaim has mostly finished his work eradicating the superthorns, the Atlantic trade route dwindles.>>1095581Yes, since you would be giving the ship its own atmosphere, you might as well set up a standing wave with in it. In Southeast Asia, the internet shutdown has been completed; the populace there tends to be compliant and content with their lot, and as far as you know, the TOL base there is busy with weapons production and sticks to using canopy-bounce radio to communicate with Antarctica. Similar efforts have started in Southern America.
Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlYou have 26 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, so 23 are available. Your civilian research grant is focused on synthetic muscle. Your military grant is focused on flying paltforms.You are not tracking enemy teams.Variable complexity:# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.# Any interesting idea you might want to try.# Deal with special situations.# Assign manpower to research. Current military focus: Heavy tanks. Current civilian focus: Soft robotics / synthetic muscles.Complexity 0# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.C 1# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.# Attempt to interface and analyze your Hell nodes.C 2# Resume tracking.# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot)# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.# Build aerospace parts.# Do a space launch using parts you have built.* Near-space relays (PNR)* Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)* Mining complex to Luna* Manned mission to Luna* Mining probe to asteroids* Arkship constructionC 3# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.# Using your internet dominance, hack TOL.# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.# Convert 3 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediatelyC 4# Revert your heavy weapons factory into a base.# Send crew from the canopy base to an off-world location. (1 population dot; 1 cabal lost for Earthside ops)C 5# Begin building a base somewhere.# Recruit a new cabalC 6# Focus on your heavy weapons factory and instantly add 1 dot to army size.
>>1095641# Focus on your heavy weapons factory and instantly add 1 dot to army size.6# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.3 Cabals. >We create Canopy Drop Shock Troopers.
>>1095628It's possible to set up an arbitrary sound waveform in the plasma sheath surrounding a spaceship, if one is generated. As to what that's for, I am not sure.
>>1095641# Send crew from the canopy base to an off-world location. (1 population dot; 1 cabal lost for Earthside ops)If we do this 3 times this turn then we can have the Lunar colony at 3/4 occupation this turn and would still have 8 cabals to put into another project.I would suggest that we use these remaining cabals to run a special "who wants to live on the moon" recruitment program and a "who wants to fund more space stuff" telethon or something...
>>1095667No. We're leaving the system. The moon has them dying at 100.>>1095641Give me 5 to get on my comp. Im home from work
>>1095667The canopy station can only hold 3 groups at a time, though. Currently, 2 groups are up there (mostly Cosmists at the moment; the original deal with them indicated that they would get the first seats).
>>1095641>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.Light Spider tanksBuild aerospace parts.10 cabals.>Recruit a new cabal5 cabals.>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.West Europe, 2 cabals.>Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.1 cabal.>Design a drone.Worker drone, 2 cabals >>1093277And finally>Deal with special situations.3 Cabals to demon summoning research, one is guard.Let's dig a hole, fill it with blood and organs, put the hellmouth on top of the hole and surround the mouth with demon summoning symbols arrayed in a circle, surrounding that statues of sculpted robed cultists with internal wubbers in their mouth.
>>1095706I forgot to say that the cultist statues and the hellmouth will chant.
>>1095706Can we put a hold on demon research. We are running out of time to save the living.
>>1095654Wubbers will the ship from natural space debris like dust, small rocks and other physical debris, the plasma shield will defend from solar winds and other stuff like that.
>>1095731It's still 972, we have time if we go by my current pace of 10 cabals to arkship construction each turn
>>1095641>20 cabals on areospace part and launching. 10/10 jeb>automatic base is making army units.>send a cabal for space training>send one to analzy hell nodes>Send a cabal to see if the hell weed is gonna grow back or if its actually gone
>>1095760That would be 5 ark ship pieces launched and 5 made.
>>1095706The Roman base has been given over to weapons production; coordinating a takeover from there would be extremely difficult, unless you intend to try and actually conquer the territory.
>>1095755Mate I must agree with the other guy. The only demons we have heard of were weak as shit.I would argue our time is better spent colonising the solar system and sending out the Centauri expeditionary force. Once we have all that done we can focus on sheer numbers of troops here on earth and preparing the B.B.J.C.U (Big, Bad, Jesus, Containment, Unit) or whatever we are calling it. Maybe something eloquent like the "gilded cage".
>>1095766Yes, 4 turns to assemble the arkship.
>>1095778never mind the takeover of italy then, put the 2 cabals on launching parts.>>1095779>The only demons we have heard of were weak as shit.I agree, but my plan was never to recruit the Demons(Exept with Zombie MEC implants), but the masses of the dammed which are burning in hell.
>>1095784Actually it would be 3 and a bit turns. As we have 3 of 20 built and launched.
>>1095784I want it up and underway before TOL space program gets too far or god knows we're alive. 4 turns is all I'm asking
>>1095789Except we don't need more troops. We need the stuff which can completely negate gods advantages and numbers is not one of them. Seeing as TOL will fail and that is just about the only thing they have.
>>1095779I want to recruit hell to get a massive labor force to assemble spaceships parts.>>1095795Really? I calculated 6 arkship parts in space and 2 on earth.
>>1095800Four turns. You might have it. Some of these tanks are becoming more of a distraction than an asset.
>>1095810We don't need hell for that, at best hell has our soldiers captive and some of them may be recoverable.
>>1095641herp, mispaste. CORRECTION: Your civilian research grant is still focused on synth muscle. Your military grant is focused on tanks.Reminders: Undermanning a project slightly may make sense. Adding a Villain to an undermanned project reduces the penalty. Note that the other two factions are also doing things.
>>1095810We spent last turn launching all the modules (4 in total) of the lunar colony and a single one to the UNS Reach. That might be what is throwing your calculations off a bit.
>>1095821>we don't need hell for that.Yes we do, there are a bunch of humans there in pain, offer them revenge against god and an end to the pain and we'll have recruited 50 cabals in a single turn.
>>1095829No we don't mate. If anything those 'people' are all insane or controlled by god/satan now.
>>1095829>>1095840Odds are they will be a hinderence before we can make them useful, and we can focus on getting to and rescuing them after the last battle is cancelled.
>>1095856This, they will be more useful for fighting off any TOL remnants than against god's chosen few...
>>1095840You are right about the insanity part, but i still want to go see what is in hell since our CPU's are there, if the dammed can't be cured then the soldier boost will be good.
>>1095869They'll be mindless murdering machines, not worth it.
>>1095884This, if we wanted dumb labour or sheer numbers we would have taken the horde path with our MEC research.
>>1095641Is the Moon still rotating around Earth or is it in a locked position as of now? because if its stopped moving... We could build a space elevator.
>>1095884There is a chance we can recruit them and 3 cabals isn't much, let's keep going with the research.
>>1095869Theoretically, should it be possible to access Hell, it would be possible by similar means to secure the souls of your citizens who are over 100. This would allow for neurosurgery intended to restore their sense of touch, pleasure, and pain. Theoretically.
>>1095888The Moon is rotating around the Earth. Its face is still tidally locked. It is slightly closer, by measurements made from the Apollo 15 retroreflector, than it should be, however the difference is minimal, a few centimeters.
>>1095890so we have a potential cure for Hell Insanity, good.
>>1095898Damn, well fair enough. Also what are the benefits of each other colony besides the Arkship?>>1095899>Theoretically. We have more important things to do now.
>>1095909It's just three cabals. I have 10 on arkship construction right now.
>>1095912>Only 10 Cabal'sWe should be getting the Arkship down ASAP. 20 Cabal, 10 on launch/building parts. It'll be down in 3.80? years if we do this now.
>>1095909There is a chance that a colony on the Moon, Mars, the asteroid belt, or Titan may survive; in the specific, the Moon is a good test bed for any of the others since it's close enough to Earth that rescue mssions are possible if something goes wrong. A fully staffed extraplanetary base can be used for base tasks like normal.
>>1095909I vote either Mars and tera form, or Alpha Venturi. With Mars we have less time but may get a chance to liberate the earth in the future. With Alpha centauri we have so much time to prepare, but by the time we can fight back tyrant may be too powerful to quickly defeat. Resulting in a 40k length eternal war till universal heat death.
>>1095922So with 20 cabals you only manage to reduce the time to 3.80 years? Just use 10 cabals and build the arkship in 4
>>1095930I vote Alaph Centuri because it seems that going to Mars would't 'save' the age issue, They'd die shortly after 100.>>1095932>10 Cabals.Now how do you split them? >20 Cabals used>10 building parts = 5 parts made>Other 10 = launch said 5 parts.5+5+5+5 = 4 years.You're current plan of launching only 2 pieces a year drags that out. 2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2 = 9 years.See the difference in time between you're plan and my own?
>>1095942This man has my support. We finish in four and can fight tyrant with the rest. If we can't save the earth we can save man.
>>1095949Oh I'm all for fighting Tyrant, I'm more worried him or Satan or fuck even TOL will catch wind and try to destory the ark in some fashion which is our 'biggest' issue for the Ark currently. Once its underway/gone. We'll its time to fuck some assholes.
>>1095956I doubt that anyone could really do so without us stopping them.The only ones with a space program is TOL and they don't have access to the needed nuclear deposits for efficient high-power engines.
>>1095969A missle still works in space and the arkship won't be doging it. We cannot risk the Ark.
>>1095991We aren't. My point is that if they want to hit our Ark in any reasonable time scale, they'll need a huge chemical rocket. Something we will notice them building and be able to counter or destroy.
>>1096007Or they can use their bombs to destroy our canopy station and make us start from scratch. Which is why I want us controlling the final design of their deployment platform.
>>1096012True but their entire plan is essentially fill a section of the canopy with bombs. Separate this from the rest of the canopy and have it plummet on to greater Jerusalem releasing the bombs. Nothing really suggests the ability to strike anywhere but down and we have patrols around the outside of the canopy station now.
>>109594210 cabals a turn to build arkship parts, making 5 each turn, giving us 20 parts in 4 years.2 cabals each turn to launch the parts, it's done in the same turn as the construction so we get 4 years of launches, taking the 3 arkship parts already in space year 976 will give us 7 arkship parts in space in the year that we finish constructing all the parts.since the parts are done we can focus on launching parts in the fifth turn, 20 cabals can send 10 parts.The sixth turn is when we would finish the arkship with 6 cabals.that is (3)+1+1+1+1+10+3Now let's look at the hell portal, i assume it will take 1-2 turns to make a portal and 1-2 turns to scout hell and cure insanity with 3 cabals, this gives us a 2-4 turn timeframe.Lets consider the 12 cabals in arkship and 3 cabals in hell research are static until year 976, but the rest 8 cabals are not, they can be added to arkship launch anytime.Let's assume at turn 2 they can help the arkship launch, That would be (3)+1+5+5+5+1 or (3)+1+5+1+1+9That is the arkship finished in 5 turns if conditions are ideal, 6 turns if they are not, a mere 1 turn difference.
>>1096044>the 5th turn.Mine gets this done in 4.
>>1096052A mere 1 year difference, sacrificing hell research, cabal recruiting and worker drone design for a single turn boost. It's not worth it.
>>1096067>Giving up on all the stuff I want to do is not worth the fact we get the ark out faster.Got it boss.
>>1096044If the bombs detonate "prematurely" to the canopy break away, they can possibly destroy the whole station.
Look, we are arguing over pointless details. There are other things to decide.For example, our new lunar colony require inhabitants and we need to start sending them while the buzz is high and while the doomsday counter is as far off as possible. To get the most from our investment.
>>1096095The underground monorail has been finding people for us, and we should be able to comb Egypt and night city ourselves.
>>1096076What Bombs? Tol just started their space program and all they want to do is set up a artillery equipped sky eye, even if they get a missile to the water canopy, the time it will take to reach the station will be long enough to detect and intercept.
>>1096095We need to finish Lunar first, Which is 2 more parts. >>1096076You up for backing my plan?
>>1096095I don't think we should send population to the moon just yet, a research focused cabal sure but an actual population is a bit early.
Qm you still here?
QM was waiting for a plan. I think we're just going to have to repost what yours was and leave it.
>>1095641>20 cabals on areospace part and launching. 10/10 jeb>automatic base is making army units.>send a cabal for space training>send one to analzy hell nodes>Send a cabal to see if the super weed is gonna grow back or if its actually gone
>>1096422Support as well. Let's get the lunar base and relay sites fully built. Then let's get 1-3 parts built for the UNS Reach.Any left over cabals from those 20 who aren't needed for those two features? Should be recruiting folks to send to Canopy and to the Lunar Base itself.Let's get those damn things populated. Once that's done, we can set Luna Base to using the colony and mines to build the Reach directly.
>>1097923I'm pretty sure he wants to build arkship parts not lunar base parts.
>>1097927Oh, I still think we can divert two teams to lunar base parts.
>>1096422Meant, For it to be arkship parts.>>1097931>>10979274 years for Ark, The rest comes soon after.
>>1097931Be careful anon, he really doesn't like people who don't focus everything on arkship for some reason.He did call your moon base idea stupid >>1095258
>>1097935Cry us a river, and baptize yourself in it. This is about resource and time management, and completing the Exitus contingency is a priority.
>>1097940you are so unnecessarily worried about the damned arkship, why do you want to put all our cabals on it?
>>1097932The issue is that the ark ship would be easier to build if we had folks freaking supplying parts and such from the lunar base.We could cut down on the total number freaking folks, thus increasing overall efficiency.Yes, the ark needs to be done ASAP.But this is less time management, and we're not -quite- in crisis mode yet.If we set up the Lunar Base and Canopy base in full, we can set -them- to building and assembling parts with far fewer cabals assigned to it, maximizing our -total- set of actions, thus actually saving us time in the long run.
Rolled 36 (1d100)>>1096384>>1096392I apologize, I passed out again. My circadian seems shot.>>1096586>>1096422You capitalize on the buzz generated by the moon colony efforts and invest heavily into continuing it; the sheer scale of the project silences people who say that space is at best a hobby-horse for an elite; while you know that it will not be possible to move a significant amount of the population off-planet should you lose the Last Battle, the simple fact that you've sent more living space on the Moon last year than in all of history lets people think that the plan is indeed that of a mass exodus. Your propaganda experts# encourage this.# remind people that Plan A is still to prevent planetdeath in the first place.The militarist party in your territories is# kept pacified by you showing off your tank and drone prototypes, making them public.# emboldened by being told that you are actively helping TOL with their orbital bombardment plan, making it public.# somewhat irritated by your unwillingness to cater to them at this time.As it stands, through all of 973>>1095991That is a valid concern: spacecraft are, by reason of mass, fragile things. It may be useful to# station a cabal on the canopy station, to train for orbital operations and to keep an eye on topside TOL efforts.# station a cabal to infiltrate TOL's launch complex so that, while they provide genuine help, they can quickly sabotage any backstab attempts.# add an anti-ballistic-missile platform to the Reach's support crafts, which will require its own launch and parts.# not waste time on cloak-and-dagger and just get the Reach out as soon as possible, so that nobody will have time to mess with her!(You're doing 10 launches this year: that's a lot of points. Where are they going? Moon, UNS Reach, other endeavors?)Over the course of the year, Capt. Weaver comes to you, limping - she died a few years back in a firefight, and while her implant brought her back as it should have, subsequent repairs have been haphazard at best. The peg leg and clamp hand make her look quite piratical, though. She says that when the trade route died out, it got harder and harder to ply her "trade", and at some point, she lost her ship and crew to TOL guns. This is your first indication that TOL have a warship; she describes it as a submersible with cruiser guns.Owing to your space endeavors, Timbuktu has grown exponentially, and is now a city on par with Amman, centered around an empty ring (for safety) with the launch complex as its center; your people note that Cameron Williams has begun trying to rent an apartment and a studio to record a special on "the New Tower of Babel". Your city planners are drected to# ban him from the grounds.# just get in his way with red tape a lot.# welcome him with open arms.# encourage him to go annoy TOL and their launch ramp instead.
>>1097943>>1097940Also, if we finish the ark ship too early then suddenly we stop being able to hide behind the idea that we're 'just exploring before the end to see the full majesty of reality!'We need to leave the finished arkship until it's too late for the fuckers to sabotage.
>>1097944I think that might be wrong, we already made the canopy to give us easy space launches and operations, making a moon base just to build the arkship from there would just take more time than necessary.
>>1097945># encourage this.># kept pacified by you showing off your tank and drone prototypes, making them public.># station a cabal on the canopy station, to train for orbital operations and to keep an eye on topside TOL efforts.># welcome him with open arms.OH HELL YES! PLEASE! PLEASE PLEASE! We just have to avoid screw ups. LET THE FUCKER SHOW OFF HOW WELL THE WHOLE THING IS GOING!Just make sure that we vet whoever he brings in, and he -never- gets to go on actual site with anybody not escorted. Any cloak and dagger shit and he's out. Full stop. Otherwise we -want- to show off our space program.
>>1097945# remind people that Plan A is still to prevent planet death in the first place.# kept pacified by you showing off your tank and drone prototypes, making them public.# station a cabal on the canopy station, to train for orbital operations and to keep an eye on topside TOL efforts.# welcome him with open arms.I am of the opinion that we should finish the Lunar colony and spend the rest to add more to the Reach. I know this is not a popular move but it is my opinion that a lunar colony offers a site to launch new parts for a lower cost in resources / cabals. Thanks to it's lack of a atmosphere and lower gravity.
>>1097949each part takes 2 teams to build and additional teams to actually launch. It would take smaller number of actions total to get the lunar base fixed up and running, and then set it to auto-generate parts and assembly of the damn ark ship, freeing up almost all of our cabals.
>>1097945>encourage this.>emboldened by being told that you are actively helping TOL with their orbital bombardment plan, making it public.>add an anti-ballistic-missile platform to the Reach's support crafts, which will require its own launch and parts.>TOO THE ARK, NOTHING ELSE. ITS GOING RIGHT TOO THE ARK.>ban him from the grounds. This is no ground for a guy trying to make a fucking 'movie.
>>1097945>remind people that Plan A is still to prevent planetdeath in the first place.>somewhat irritated by your unwillingness to cater to them at this time.I aint showing our drone desings, that gives our enemies intelligence.>station a cabal on the canopy station, to train for orbital operations and to keep an eye on topside TOL efforts.>encourage him to go annoy TOL and their launch ramp instead.Don't attract divine attention.
>>1097953So eight cabals, that seems reasonable.
>>1097963So if it takes 8 teams to get the ark ship finished, we can devote the rest to getting the lunar base and relay satellites working and populated. Everybody wins.
>>1097964It's 8 cabals for the moon base mate.
Rolled 16 (1d100)>>1096422The surveyors you send on a brief tour of Europe report that Chaim Rozenweig has done a brilliant job of eradicating your superthorns. On the plus side, Nova Roma is doing well -- the people there have abandoned efforts to reclaim the Empire, at least for now, and are focusing on becoming your arsenal; the base personnel, in their spare time, have erected a vallum around the ancient city# and give tours of the overground parts.# and keep laboring in secret.The cabal tinkering with the Hell nodes reports few results in the field of getting them to do anything but simulate suffering, but succeed in getting them mobile; this req̡ui̛res ma͜kin̵g a̡ ͞ta̛n͝k͝-̷s͞iz̶e hole̷ in̴ ́y͏ǫu͞r dąt́a̡cen̕t͠e̶r a̡nd̨ d̛is̕r͡u͠p̛t̷s̢ y͜o͝ur smoo̡th ̡r̀unn̛i̧ng fo̵r a̵ f͢ew ̀day͜s̀.͢ The Hell nodes can now be safely moved around, should they become part of an Angel trap or other shenanigans.Over the years, most of your senior personnel is able to at least take a trip to the canopy; Ithuriel has to be recalled after losing himself in the beauty of the Milky Way, Zak's new book "For I have tasted the fruit" almost tops the bestellers charts if it wasn't for Christian cyberpunk novel series "Soon", and even Captain Weaver is offered a ride and declares on descent that there is yet adventure to be had in the world (while at it, your medical technicians did repair her properly# with vat-grown replacement flesh# with state of the art cybernetics.)>>1097953Disregarding the Greenland base for a moment, each individual space program step effectively costs 4 cabals, two to coordinate construction and testing, and two to handle launch, orbital insertion, and possibly landing.
>>1097965Oh then yeah, point remains. We knock it out, and then use the rest to populate the sucker, and then in the next few years we just say "okay, we're setting one cabal to lunar base management and we want all steam ahead on producing parts and assembly of the ark ship while we run interference on the ground."We remove a potential chain of fuckups and potential sabatoge by removing all production that we can from the surface of the planet, putting a giant goddamn wall of ice between attacks on the ark ship assembly and launching process and anything Turbo Jesus' ilk can throw at us.So 8 of the 20 to fixing the lunar base up, and then some more to the relay satelites, and anybody left should work to recruit pops for both Canopy and Luna. Getting those suckers up and running so that in the following few years, we can just go all steam ahead on the ark ship.
>>1097972>and keep laboring in secret.>Her choice, Lab or Cybernetics. Which ever she wants due to her hard work.
>>1097953>>1097963Actually, I hate to rain on a plan I like but population is launched separately. At the cost of 4 Cabals a unit of population, the only problem is I can't figure out if that means it takes four to do and one of those four is getting launched or if it means it takes those four cabals to launch another cabal into space.Assuming the worst; to launch the entire potential population of the moon colony at once would require 4 time 5 Cabals or 20 in total. This isn't including the construction of it which would also need another 2 units, or 8 cabals to complete.Thus, in total we will need 28 cabals worth of labour for a fully operational lunar facility.
>>1097976I kinda want to avoid populating the moon base and just send a research cabal to research super materials, space elevators and plasma shields.
>>1097982Oh I thought the pops being added weren't cabals themselves, but were like the military units we have. They're from our core population itself.
>>1097985That is another thing I am uncertain of but the implication I got from OP is that they are. Still, there is nothing stopping us sending civilians up too besides a lack of clear loyalty and such...
>>1097982If that's the case, then sure, let's get 8 cabals of those 20 on finishing it, 8 more on finishing the relay satellites (which will help us with getting the rest running), and then the last 4 on getting a cabal to Luna base.
>>1097972>Corrupt text.This is bad, might need to put a hold on the arkship and build a warship escort instead. >>1092710
>>1097982>>1097983We we please get this damn arkship parts up. So we can get that taken care of already within 2 years. Me and Anti didn't vote/make it for anything but the Arkship.
>>1097988Aren't the Asteroid-belt relay satellites finished? Why do we need more?
>>1097975>>1097981Weaver gets out of the Saint Judas Augmentation Clinic in Pacifica sporting a look that she specifically declares to be a tribute to her fallen former comrade, Quinn. This effectively gets you a bit of a propaganda tour, since people still remember her; Weaver gets to meet Rehema in a closed-door meeting, as well. They don't discuss much of importance, really but this does not stop shipping fanart from flooding the network. Weaver thanks you profusely and proceeds to recruit a new crew, then sails off into the sunset, at least for now.>>1097985That's correct; however, they will need cabals to support them during training and launch. Cordylon so far is doing well coordinating your topside activities by herself, but you expect that once population is in place, each project (station, ark, moon etc) will need a permanent cabal assigned to it as ground control and as political officers.>>1097991Right now I have 2 votes for building the UNS Reach as soon as possible, and one for splitting efforts between her and the moon base.
>>1098001Installing more and better relay satellites allows for sharing high-res video, multiple audio streams, and so on. Right now, you have full communication as far out as Jupiter, but only if you stick to text and QVGA pictures; even the video stream of the moon landing was accomplished at the cost of turning off pretty much every other telemetry system while it was live.
>>1097991Well that is true.Okay, I agree to suspend almost all production towards the Lunar program for the next 4 turns.However I do want to have a launch at least once a year to the lunar colony. This is to follow the requirements of the colony which are two more modules (requiring two cabals assuming you allow us the Greenland base for part production) and then the population shipping which although it requires 4 cabals, doesn't seemingly require any aeronautical parts and thus would free up two from part production by allowing you to use the Greenland base which effectively leaves us all even for required labour for our projects.Assuming this was followed we would have Luna finished in 6 years with minimal effect on your program.
>>1097988Hey anon, I'll support your moon base and relay satellites if you support my hell gate research next turn. >>1095706
>>1098010I have no issue with us finishing the moon base after the 4 years, because by then the Ark will be well taken care of and on its way so we can focus on other stuff and issues.
>>1098003Spend one of the launches for the moon, the rest go to the arkship.
>>1098011Sounds good to me. Can you type out the whole thing?
>>1098020Don't support him, His been wanting too draw the attention of god while we're 'supposedly' Dead and hiding from him. We can't risk the Arkship at all.
>>1098011What's the opposite of support? Condemnation? Yeah, you have my condemnation.
>>1098023Fine fine. I'll agree to this on this basis: >>1098019AND that next year we finish it -and- send up a research cabal. And, finally, that we will spend cabals on recruiting -more- cabals steadily over time -specifically- to fully staff our orbital assets and get the ark ship staffed with cabals as well. Every year we must get parts up to everything else and at least one more cabal recruited and launched into space.If that's agreed on, I'll gladly throw everything else into getting the arkship running asap.Is this agreeable?
>>1098020This turn is.>20 cabals on areospace part and launching. 10/10 jeb4 on moon base part construction, 4 on moon base part launch, 2-4 on launching relay satellites, 4 cabals to send a cabal to the moon(Should be a research cabal) this leaves us 4-6 to launch the spare arkship parts.>automatic base is making army units.>send a cabal for space training>send one to analzy hell nodes>Send a cabal to see if the super weed is gonna grow back or if its actually goneNext turn should be>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.Light Spider tanksBuild aerospace parts.10 cabals.>Recruit a new cabal5 cabals.>Launch parts.2 cabals>Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.1 cabal.>Design a drone.Worker drone, 2 cabals >>1093277And finally>Deal with special situations.3 Cabals to demon summoning research, one is guard.Let's dig a hole, fill it with blood and organs, put the hellmouth on top of the hole and surround the mouth with demon summoning symbols arrayed in a circle, surrounding that statues of sculpted robed cultists with internal wubbers in their mouth, the cultist statues and the hellmouth will chant.The 3 cabals should be in silenced rooms.>>1098027And you already backed out of the deal, great.
>>1098027>Arkship can be done in less then 4 years.>We should prolong this and let TOL and TJ have more time to find us and fuck us.For the love of god, What part of I'm willing to back the other shit later if we get the Ark done now is the problem? Why is the moon so fucking important when we're GETTING the fuel from it already?
>>1098031>This is literally not the turn at all.
>>1098034Fine fine. I just think having it sitting there as a gigantic fucking target... oh well, it can be used to ferry shit out to the titan colonies when we need to get them running, and quickly set up the rest.
>>1098031>And you already backed out of the deal, great.Sorry man, but I can see a losing proposition. if it takes concessions now to get the rest done later. Fine.Also, have we just abandoned the sonic weapons tunnel attack on TJ?
>>1098034The moon is a secondary contenincy in the event the arkship fails, and it can serve as an early warning for the ark survivors if TJ and Tyrant memeticly mutate into Christian Khorne and starts taking over space via the holy warp.
Okay everyone stop for a moment I think we are going to confuse OP.Now I want each anon to link their proposed plan to this post. In my case it will be the link below back to my prior post;>>1098010In the case my plan, I care not what is occurring with the other cabals (so long as it isn't that stupid demon summoning idea) so long as the lunar colony receives this level of support as a minimum; further investment would reduce the time scale and would see my plan end sooner, freeing up assets.Personally I would argue they should go into either asteroid mining or Mars colonisation. Another idea would be automated bases on the moon...
>>1098035Did you forget >>1098003
>>1098037The longer the Arkship is sitting in orbit and built the MORE likely TOL is to get into space and then fuck us. Thats why getting it done in 4 years while they are JUST figuring out how to stick to the Sphere covering the world.Also the Sonic weapons attack is still a plan on but the tunnel is far more easier to do and make.>>1098043Which part?>>1098041No...it wouldn't? we have stuff in the belt.
>>1098042>>1098031^I made this to support the Moon base in exchange for support for the hellmouth.
>>1098044>Right now I have 2 votes for building the UNS Reach as soon as possible, and one for splitting efforts between her and the moon base.he's waiting for us to decide whether to launch moon base arts or arkship parts.
>>1098046Moon base can come AFTER the ark. I'm totally already with that. The ark done now is the important part. Then we can do your research and the moon base.>>1098047Well if there are 2 for the UNS Reach, it should be going up already.
>>1098044>The longer the Arkship is sitting in orbit and built the MORE likely TOL is to get into space and then fuck us.They need a canopy station for that, how long did ours take to build?
>>1098037Y'all tell me :)After you go past 10 dots in constructing the UNS Reach, however, you will have to decide its ultimate destination so that it can be outfitted with the appropriate modules; changing its destination will require recalli>>1098038You do have a tunneling team - well, two now, really. The official tunneling team is idle; the Dwarfs have been busy playing mole-a-whack with Tsion around Night City, much to their intellectual and emotional fulfillment.>>1098042It should be possible to use the UNS Reach to stage a Mars mission, land the hab modules, and then recall the keel and engines for refit if you have another destination in mind for it; of course, this would take time, and would mean that the Mars colonists would be unable to return to Earth if things go south. Which, admittedly, is less of a big deal given the big doomsday clock on top of everyone's head.>>1098044The UNS reach is indeed a big (and thus easy) target as long as she is in Earth orbit. Your military analysts indicate that it's pretty much impossible for a TOL or Christian sabotage team to get past Earth orbit with no infrastructure, though. They note that a Christian sabotage team may benefit from a miracle, but their stance seems to be to conscentiously ignore space efforts at all: even Cameron Williams wants to only report on Timbuktu and the launch complex, not on actual space endeavors. Preliminary talks (which are still ongoing pending your decisions) indicate that the Glorified reporter seems to have a blind spot when it comes to where, exactly, all the stuff that's being put on rockets goes.
>>1098051Less then a year.
>>1098051Your canopy station took 20 years to complete, however, that takes into account the fact that the first attempt was scuttled in order to force rain to fall on Misrayim.
>>1098053>After you go past 10 dots in constructing the UNS Reach, however, you will have to decide its ultimate destination so that it can be outfitted with the appropriate modules; changing its destination will require recalliOh boy another argument.>>1098054That is bullshit, our canopy needed several parts, 8 if i recall correctly.
>>1098053All points go to reach, destination should be alpha centauri.
>>1098060Thought you mentioned launch pad, not canopy station.
>>1098060Not really, we just have it swing by mars, the asteroids and shit dropping off colonies, acting as an in-system engine section before being readied for it's final mission to Alpha Centauri.Now as to if that is as efficient as actually producing engine sections for each colony, I don't know.
>>1098044Fine, fine, fine fuckit. Everything into the Ark. You've convinced me.
>>1098053I vote the Ark goes to alpha centauri as we've been saying it should. please don't make it harder then it is with the endless debates. lol>They'd need a Miracle.They remember who we're fighting right?
>>1098064Why do we want colonies in the solar system if we're going to Alpha Centauri?
>>1098066A miracle destroying the arc would require tyrant spoting it himself or enough Christians praying for its destruction.>>1098068Where did you get that? I think your trying to cause chaos at this point.
>>1098070i believe its possible.
>>1098050>Then we can do your research and the moon base.since >>1098065Also supports you I'll trow in the towel and support.
>>1098070>we just have it swing by mars, the asteroids and shit dropping off colonies.
>>1098064>>1098063An alternative plan is to build the Reach to get to Mars, drop off its colony modules, and have the keel and engines return for refit for the different colony modules that will be used for Alpha Centauri. This has the disadvantage of stranding the Martians on their own planet; it will be possible to supply them, but not return them home.>>1098066Yes, hence why they mentioned it. Fortunately, there is little in the Bible about sabotaging spacecraft. Fortunately for you, Dr. Ken Ham has settled the matter in your favor some time before the Rapture. https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/does-the-bible-prohibit-space-travel/
>>1098074Either way, we only need one colony and it's hitting Alpha centauri. From there, if we fail, the imperium of man will reclaim earth from Tyrant after century's of preparation.
>>1098068Since when are we launching for AC? We have no clue if a binary system even will have a goddamn goldilocks earthlike planet?We have a lot of research to do, things we need the research satelites for. We should be using the Ark to populate the other segments of the solar system first, get a breeding, self supporting, population on Mars, the Belt, and Titan, and then, only then, can we reasonably begin working elsewhere in the local group. That's an insanely dangerous, long term effort.
>>1098076>An alternative plan is to build the Reach to get to Mars, drop off its colony modules, and have the keel and engines return for refit for the different colony modules that will be used for Alpha Centauri. This has the disadvantage of stranding the Martians on their own planet; it will be possible to supply them, but not return them home.That's a feature not a bug.
>>1098079>We don't know.its the nearest life sustaining planet we know of. From looking it over with our telescopes unless that's changed recently? >>1098076>stranding people on Mars.I've seen those movies. Thats bad.
>>1098083uuuuh... what? Are we talking -in game- or IRL?
Quick question geist, with heavy MEC drones and worker drones are we capable of creating autonomous drone cabals?
>>1098079We already know Goldilocks exist. We can reach it. We know how to make weapons and armor beyond anything mankind has had before. >>1098083Stranding people on Mars is very bad, they will survive, they will be angry, they will develop the tools to lash out at us and they will deal tramatic damage before the end. That is human nature in action.
>>1098085Those exist in our army. Their sole purpose is to fight and break for our cause.
>>1098088Except that makes no sense.Why would they revolt considering that we allowed them to go of their own free will and plan on reinforcing the colony assuming we survive, if we fail to defeat god then all of this is entirely pointless.
>>1098089But i don't want army drones, i want labor drones to make drone cabals, that way we don't need humans to do stuff except research, we can even make drone cabals make more drone cabals.
>>1098090not if we get people out of the system, Seems they survive. >>1098092You use an automatic base 3 times in a row and it produces 1 Cabal. So every 3 years we get 1 extra
>>1098087Uh, we've not discovered -any- planets IRL that bear life, period. Alpha Centuari is just the closest system, it's not even a system that has a goldilocks zone planet to my knowledge.http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/closest-potentially-habitable-planet-found-14-light-years-away-125697514 light years is the closest we got. Alpha Centauri is just easier to reach, it's probably filled with barren rocks though.
>>1098083>>1098088>>1098094The Cosmists have confirmed that there are three possibly habitable planets around the Alpha Centauri binary system, with possibly one more around Proxima. By "habitable", of course, they mean "there will be resources to mine for, and we will not all be fried to a crisp by cosmic rays", not "we have detected life there".>>1098085You are the only true AI on the planet (and some of your sysadmins doubt even that, given how much maintenance you require! Needless to say, they do not get along with those who all-but-worship you, but any religious animosity tends to get expressed in Quake and airsoft office games, nothing more than that). However, one Heavy MEC in a command vehicle can direct between ten and a hundred drones; the drones can be given fully autonomous tasks such as guard a location, harvest a field, and so on, but will not operate intelligently for a long period of time.>>1098092The automated facility in Greenland still needs the occasional bit of human attention once a year or so, at least to give it production orders. Von Neumann machines are definitely a concept that exists, though.
>>1098093We still need to recruit humans for those cabals, I'm asking if we can make non human cabals.
>>1098092Drones are not good for labor. This is a world where if one man kills a believer, that man dies. So drones do the killing. But when in comes to a change in action, or trying something crazy humans are better, that's why they make up our labor force. That's why they command our drones.
>>1098094Odd, I thought from the scans of the atompshere and stuff it had what we 'needed' for normal life.>>1098096We have the majority for Ark, Can we please roll? Its late as fuck here and I wanna go to bed.
>>1098099It is late. QM we're all cursing your damaged circadian.
>>1098096>Von Neumann machines.That's the name i was trying to remember, our worker drone design should be dexterous enough to build other drones with it's tendrils and appendages.
>>1098097Not at this time, although the Dwarfs>>1098098Automation is heavily used in your territories in the form of 3d printers, CNC mills, robotic welding arms and so on, of course. Omega is the only AI on earth, that anyone knows of, and requires several data centers to run.>>1098099It does, in the sense that you can extract oxygen, produce soil, and so on. Your colonists will land with the appropriate tech and build onwards. The chances of you finding a lush paradise filled with natives in synch with nature is effectively zero... and at this point, a good chunk of your guys would probably bomb them from orbit.>>1098099>>1098100(Sure, can someone repost the final plans though? I did get a bit confused. And yeah let's go to bed after this resolution, my bad!!!)
>>1098102*although the Dwards may count as a non-human cabal if recruited. So far they're all too young to have wanted to have children, although doing DNA tests to investigate speciation is feasible.
>>1098099No, not at all. We can't scan atmospheres, at all. That's science fiction.We can detect the orbit and tilt of planets, we can tell when they probably have a magnetic field partially by that, and we can tell how far out from their star they orbit, anything more than that, and it's too far away to tell.>>1098096>>1098096>The Cosmists have confirmed that there are three possibly habitable planets around the Alpha Centauri binary system, with possibly one more around Proxima. By "habitable", of course, they mean "there will be resources to mine for, and we will not all be fried to a crisp by cosmic rays", not "we have detected life there".That's unacceptable in terms of immediate colonization, especially when it will take the better part of a century, even if we can accelerate the ship to a considerable percentage of C (which, by the way, with our current tech, would almost certainly get our ship exploded by hitting a bit of space dust)Let's use the ship to hyper accelerate colonization of the solar system, and then move people OUT from there.
>>1098102Final plan is >>1098003Building reach as soon as possible.
>>1098102This.>20 cabals on areospace part and launching. 10/10 jeb>automatic base is making army units.>send a cabal for space training>send one to analzy hell nodes>Send a cabal to see if the super weed is gonna grow back or if its actually goneAll 20 cabals are building and launching arkship parts.
>>1098106Stuffing a ship with all the needs of Terraforming and sending it to alpha centauri with a large enough human population isnt going to make it explode by touching dust.
>>1098096>>1098106>and we will not all be fried to a crisp by cosmic rays.>would almost certainly get our ship exploded by hitting a bit of space dust.I knew it, we need shields for our spaceships.>>1095554>>1095654
>>1098111No, but sending it fast enough that it doesn't need to be a generational ship with 5 generations of carefully selective breeding to prevent both inbreeding and over/underpopulation problems will if you smack into say, 5 grams of carbon and iron while moving at 5-20% the speed of light.
>>1098117It's already been established, it would take 20 earth years to get there. And so what if people breed? We can bring enough supplies for ten generations, and likely will while Terraforming goes on.
I feel at this point. QM just loves the endless debate
>>1098108You pick soldiers and warriors from various branches - guards, mobile infantry, Desolators, even a couple of Astartes' adepts>>1098111The fission fragment reaction engine should allow the Reach to continue accelerating at about 0.8G through the entire trip, reaching 0.3c at the midpoint. The Reach's engines are installed in the front, angled slightly outwards so that their intense magnetic field may assist in deflecting micrometeoroids. There is no current plan to deal with larger objects other than seeing it coming well in advance and deviating slightly.>>1098121You will have to decide this. The plan for livestock is to leverage 1000 years of biology research on the part of you and Tree Of Life, and bring mostly samples and artificial wombs for most species (except for things like earthworms and yeasts which will need to be deployed immediately). A colony on the Moon or Mars will greatly assist in handling the last-minute problems that only show up in a live test. As for the crew, Reach in her interplanetary configuration can be# a generation ship; the people flying away will have to endure some boredom.# a cryo ship.# staffed entirely with MEC agents who have already died, and can be kept in a coma most of the time.(Also, what will you do with Cameron Williams?)Timbuktu this year is probably the world's busiest city, and that includes New Jerusalem: trucks and trains move in with raw material and prefabs, and the launch frequency for support capsules is such that it changes the local cloud pattern. Thanks to Jeb and Cordylon's previous experience both as administrators and as spacefarers, things go on without much of a hitch.By the year's end, what looked like a giant skeletal catamaran has taken the shape of a starship straight out of a science fiction novel... except that it's right there, orbiting the Earth. Some on the ground claim that they can see its shadow past the ice canopy, even.(Confirm that the overall plan is Mars, drop off modules, return, interstellar? That way I can write something about it tomorrow)>>1098127(Not really, it's a bit hard on me, I'm trying to be fair to everyone!)
>>1098132You pick soldiers and warriors from various branches - guards, mobile infantry, Desolators, even a couple of Astartes' adepts - to join the canopy station crew and act as its security contingent; they are given what amounts to vacuum-rated snowmobiles and told to range out on wide patrols across the endless expanse of the ice canopy. They find remarkably little, other than the occasional meteor that has hit the canopy and lodged itself in it.On a whim, one patrol goes as far northeast as Greater Jerusalem, and confirms that the ice canopy there has a couple of "scars" indicating previous canopy breaching attempts. However, they are old, and small.
>>1098132># a generation ship; the people flying away will have to endure some boredom.fewest problems likely come from this so it'll be self sustaining.Most votes were for welcoming Cameron with open arms, but making it clear that any shenanigans won't be tolerated.
>>1098132>The Staff who remains awake are MEC's but the rest are Cyro and Generation so it constantly has a fresh 'supply' of people awake. Keep it cycling, Some take a cold nap while others are awake and repeat it.>Ban Cameron Williams, The cunt shouldn't be around sensitive shit trying to touch it. You know what QM just for you. >Arkship to drop off Modules, return and then interstellar. But now that means we're gonna need 'real' supply ships going back and forth so Gray anon will have a field day.
>>1098132># a generation ship; the people flying away will have to endure some boredom.Vidia and sports.>(Also, what will you do with Cameron Williams?)What about Cameron Williams? Let the bastard be and put locks on doors with people standing gaurd. If he tries to destroy anytging, we gas the kike.
>>1098132>There is no current plan to deal with larger objects other than seeing it coming well in advance and deviating slightly.Except researching plasma shields.>a generation ship; the people flying away will have to endure some boredom.what will you do with Cameron Williams?>Shoo him away, point him in the direction of the TOL launch site if he wants to make news so bad.
>>1098137>But now that means we're gonna need 'real' supply ships going back and forth so Gray anon will have a field day.OH BOY!The forge ship design should work as a supply ship even though it's not designed for it, we should use it like so temporarily until we can build dedicated transport ships.
>>1098146As I said, once the Arkship is under-way and gone. I'll back it.
>>1098147I already threw in the towel bro.
>>1098137>>Arkship to drop off Modules, return and then interstellar. >But now that means we're gonna need 'real' supply ships going back and forth so Gray anon will have a field day.Sounds good to me.And I still say we let Cameron do the thing. You know why? She's already leaning towards us. We show her stuff, we control what she has access too and prevent her from making crap up. We'll get more converts, and more people pissed off at her, until finally, one of the few moderate voices in New Jerusalem pulls out because of the hate or how people focus on her.Then that'll cascade, and the place might just implode on itself.
>>1098132>(Confirm that the overall plan is Mars, drop off modules, return, interstellar? That way I can write something about it tomorrow)"Who's up for making Mars their final resting place."
>>1098147>As I said, once the Arkship is under-way and gone. I'll back it.As long as we use it to AT LEAST get folks to Mars, Titan, and/or the belt first as a test run.
>>109812120 years is accurate. Interestingly, the Reach will be moving fast enough that it will only be 15 years or so from their perspective.You expect that, should the Earth endure, communication will be broken about halfway through the voyage, at least until both sides can build a powerful orbital transceiver.>>1098137Designing an Aldrin Cycler ship will be its own project, of course - but should not be too problematic. Your FFRE technology allows for multiple rotations in an orbital cycle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_cycler>>1098140A point-defence laser coupled with a sensor array might be a better option. Either way, you have decided to install some form of shield, whichever its technology. Likely, both options will be purused.>>1098138>>1098137>>1098136# Your fourth option is to ignore Williams entirely: it's sure to get a rise out of him, he will wander around the city under discreet guard but get no launch complex access, and say what he has to say about that. Either way, he does receive a few emails and phone calls telling him about TOL's launch ramp.>>1098138>>1098136You elect to keep most of the colonists awake for the long journey; crew selections begin now, with mock missions being set up that isolate small groups for a year or more to screen for psychological issues.>>1098152The Mars colonists will have to endure "only" a few months of being locked in a tin can, so they are selected on the basis of expertise instead. The Mars trip will also work well as a general rehearsal for the interstellar trip.>>1098149Cameron "Buck" (Wait, he dropped the self-appointed nickname, there's nothing to buck here) Williams is a Glorified male. And considers himself a paragon of manliness. No, really. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/LeftBehind
(Unrelated: i should have the first artificial muscle fiber done by tomorrow, courtesy of hanging a Dremel on top of a 3D printer and making a giant mess with a spool of fishing line. I'll take pictures)
>>1098154Fuck it let Cameron in, Other anon's are willing to back me in the Ark. let's do it but UNDER guard, so he doesn't destroy anything. Oh, Can we put PDL's and the possible shields on? Our power source after all are insanely small and cost effective.
>>1098154Again, I say we let the guy in. He can't spin things worse than they are if we control access to his information, and by using the truth, we might force him to admit the program works.I'm not saying show him the goddamn blue prints or the assembly lines in work, but let's show him parts that can't be used to reverse engineer or directly target stuff. NASA did this back during the space race, we can do it too.
>>1098155Neat.>>1098154"Manliness". He's not even fucking Manlet material! Where is Ithuriel or Ziggy? Those are what men look like! Our frozen Potato dwarf is more manly!
>>1098156>>1098157Let him in, no access to anything vital. If he wants to get mad, he can leave. Otherwise we gas him or send in a drone to break his balls. It seems we agree near perfectly.
>>1098161Ehn, I say we humiliate him and have drones give him a mega wedgie while flying him out of the city if he gets his panties in a twist, otherwise we control what he gets to see, and explain to him in calm, rational terms that while we are more than willing to help educate others on space travel, we honestly don't trust "Turbo Jesus" (let's use that exact term because it'll be as insulting as fuck) to not try shit if we allow too much information out.
>>1098162Don't call Jesus "Turbojesus" it's blasphemy and will send a lighting bolt or worse.
>>1098162I think that would get our drones and stuff struck by lighting near very delicate and sensitive stuff.
In D&D one of the chief demons in the abyss is named Orcus. And he sits on his throne doing jack shit until someone decides to use him as a plot divice or villian. Sounds a lot like someone we know.
>>1098164>>1098163Fiiiiiiiine. You guys are no fun,Can we at least, as a final fuck you at the end of this, carve the firmament so that "Fuck You Turbo Jesus" appears over New Jerusalem during the day or Night or whenever?
>>1098170We can when we go to strike from the tunnels, so they are staring upwards and not down.
>>1098170Day is eternal. And no, because I don't want the conopy destroyed while we're on it. This isn't an ENT we can directly troll like that.
>>1098157>>1098156You give Cameron Williams press credentials; he and his cameraman Guy Fleegman (who is remarkably patient in going along with his boss while hauling heavy, obsolete analog camera equipment, and attracts a bit of a fan following among launch complex workers, although half of it is to annoy Cameron as people keep stopping them... to get Guy's autograph) are given a shallow but comprehensive tour of the facilities.Cameron asks your workers pointed questions about how the rockets are polluting the atmosphere ("Don't you guys believe that it's all over in 30 years anyway? At least we've moved to solar and nuclear power instead of sticking with carburated gas engines"), about how Tsion has declared the launch complex a modern Tower of Babel ("Okay, he got us there. We're using at least ten different programming languages just for the sensor systems, and I have to make them all talk to each other!"), about how all this sound and fury ultimately signifies nothing ("Tell that to Azrael!"), and so on.Ultimately, his reportage showcases Misrays as a culture of tech-obsessed, evil secularists who need all the prayer they can get if they are to make peace with their own spirit (never mind the Lord) in time for the Last Battle.>>1098162Cameron almost has an aneurysm on camera when a brief interview with Jeb (not the capstone of the interview: when wanting to speak with someone in charge, CamCam means Timbuktu's mayor, who spends the interview trying and failing to get across to the Glorified reporter the fact that she's just there to run the city and not the space program) when the test pilot turned space program manager goes off script offers a ride to anyone from King David to Noah to Cameron himself, including an ice-fishing expedition if they want to take quasiorbital pictures of the Temple."And look down at Ezekiel's Temple like it was some sort of diorama! You offend all that we have achieved! This is blasphemy! This is madness!"Jeb smiles sweetly and casually flicks a slightly flawed resin-printed model of an assault parachutist into the recycling bin. "This is the space program."Oddly, the exchange makes it into the finished product.OmegaTube is flooded with remixes or parodies within the day; Cameron's "hit piece" did more for morale than a sustained propaganda campaign would have. Tsion announces that he will ask the Temple Tribunal for a ruling on the Tower of Babel business - it was coming anyway.>>1098170There hasn't been a proper night in a millennium. That said, installing opaque layers into the firmament is more than doable; you have had to do that to protect it from rocket exhaust anyway, and they are visible from the ground.>>1098158Arranging a meeting between Cameron and Ithuriel is probably best not done around high-tech equipment. They're likely to go along like a house on fire. Literally.# Do it for the lulz.# Let's not, maybe it's something to do in +999 or something.(Call it a night?)
>>1098173>Lets do it in a secured area, offer the man a chance of a life time.>Watch closely and get slincers or whatever they were too mute the guy encase our angel starts being coverted.I'm going the fuck to bed now. Night and thanks guys.
>>1098173# Let's not, maybe it's something to do in +999 or something.Yip, anime and porn time. Night QM.
>>1098173>Let's not, maybe it's something to do in +999 or something.Don't endanger our angel. He is precious.>Call it a night?Yes.Geist, is our worker drone design dexterible enough to be a Von Neumann machine? >>1093277
Near the end of the year, the mighty Reach illuminates with five beams of white-purple light coming from her engines, inserting her into a higher orbit and then returning to the construction orbit.For now, a point-defense laser adapted from the AN/SEQ-3 Laser Weapon System has been installed to handle meteoroids; the weapon is briefly tested, disappointing those who wanted to see energy beams fly in the darkness of space because lasers don't work that way, but properly vaporizing their magnesium target. For the broadcast, someone adds a pew-pew sound.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIGiZamtz_k>>1098181No, but it should be possible to design a VN machine to build copies of itself from asteroid material. Having something like that operate outside of a gravity well would make it easier to build. The resulting spacecraft would be large and ponderous, though.Worker drones begin making an appearance in fields and warehouses, earning their keep, though.
>>1098181>>1098178>>1098179Thanks for playing!
>>1098185>Worker drones begin making an appearance in fields and warehouses, earning their keep, though.How? We haven't put 2 cabals to designed them yet.
>>1098185Why can't the worker drone be a VN machine? It has tentacles to carry tools to mine material, tools to forge material into parts and hands to assemble them into another worker drone. What is limiting it?
>>1098198possibly processing power. It has to be directed to do stuff, it lacks the processing power to do stuff.BUUUUT what we -could- do is set up a drone hive core cluster unit, a central server that had two purposes:1) Make more drones2) Strip out drones when the number of drones it controls exceeds X amount and diverts them to other drone hivesAdd a second drone hive that builds new drone hives, have it have a quota to meet, but shut down once that quota is met. Then the new drone hives can be directly set up to other purposes.Drone Hives would be set up to siphon excess drones to other drone hives in any particular complex, each drone hive is programmed for a specific task, and moderates that task. All drone hives communicate with one another.There, we have a von-nueman device set up, that won't go insane because we limit the production of new hives.
>>1098204That's a good idea, a "Overlord" drone with enough processing power to understand our orders and direct the other drones efficiently, basically making a drone cabal.
>>1098205I imagine the trade off would be mobility.
>>1098204>>1098205I don't know how this command drone will be designed, as i am indecisive on whether to give it a tank body or a quad-walker body similar to the hierarchy units in universe at war.Regardless, here is how it will be used to make a drone cabal.A drone cabal will be made of worker drones, heavy MEC drones and 4 "core" command drones, each command drone will be programed to direct drones to a single task with maximum efficiency, the 1rst command drone will be programed with how to construct other worker drones, 2nd command drone will be programmed with how to construct MEC drones, the 3rd command drone will be programmed with how to construct "Blank" command drones, the 4rth and final command drone will be programed with how to dismantle other drone designs. When the cabal is ordered to do something, like mining for example, a blank command drone is created with an entourage of worker and MEC drones equipped to handle a given task, the blank command drone is then programmed with everything it needs to know to direct it's entourage to the task with maximum efficiency, the blank drone can also be reprogrammed later.The 4rth command drone exists in case the cabal needs to shed it's size.
>>1098223Probably yea, the Core command drones at least will need to be transported to where they are needed.
I'm going to sleep, see you in 9 hours.
>>1098191You have announced the program, and published preliminary designs. Maker/geek culture is very strong in both your territories, and while you have cared about secrecy for some project, this wasn't one of them. People have begun to "roll their own", although they aren't as capable as the official ones.
Perhaps unsurprisingly as a way to stop the steady trickle of defection to your cause, The Other Light announces with some fanfare the "reabsorbtion" of a group called The Outer Light and their establishment as a space program; the Baikonur launch ramp has been refurbished and fortified, and they have launched a canopy-breaching capsule that is more or less based on your old design. They have also put forward via internet and via broadcast a very ambitious space program, including the colonization of Venus, which they promise Satan will terraform for them. As it is, they now have their own "ice hole" as well as, presumably, ballistic missile capability. Your sysadmins send a perfunctory message of congratulations.Their army buildup continues, and Sunday sends a note to indicate that he "worries about you being left behind" on military preparations.For the first time in many years, the Christian delegation from Misrayim (they still say Osaze, unsurprisingly) is not placed dead last at the big table at the Feast of Tabernacles; instead, their effort as a "persecuted minority" are consistently praised, in between some knuckle-rapping about not doing enough to evangelize.Back from his latest and possible last speaking engagement at Children of the Tribulation, Noah (Yes, the patriarch) announces that he may next year visit Osaze's northern ports, with the Ark replica in tow, to spread the truth of creation and catastrophe to the benighted land; at the same time Tsion Ben-Judah, who has been actively lobbying for a Temple Tribunal proclamation about the Timbuktu launch ramp, has declared his work in Eastern Europe finished and moved on to Central Africa. Chaim Rozenweig is still in Eastern Europe, cleaning up the last of the superthorns; Night City's tunnel network by now is extensive, with access to rivers and seas and even a partially-underground overland route to the Rub-Al-Khali.To your sysadmins' great surprise, Urist requests a meeting with "Omega the Elder" during the following year; as far as your low-level monitoring indicates, the Night City children have been working expanding their home. They certainly have expanded their numbers, to the point that the lower levels of Night City are inhabited almost exclusively by Homo Sapiens Rotundus.
Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlYou have 26 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, so 23 are available. Your civilian research grant is focused on worker drones and the hell-mouth. Your military grant is focused on heavy tank designs.You are not tracking enemy teams.Variable complexity:# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.# Any interesting idea you might want to try.# Deal with special situations.# Assign manpower to research. Current military focus: Heavy tanks. Current civilian focus: Soft robotics / synthetic muscles.Complexity 0# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.C 1# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.# Attempt to interface and analyze your Hell nodes.C 2# Resume tracking.# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot)# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.# Build aerospace parts.# Do a space launch using parts you have built.* Near-space relays (PNR)* Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)* Mining complex to Luna* Manned mission to Luna* Mining probe to asteroids* Arkship constructionC 3# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.# Using your internet dominance, hack TOL.# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.# Convert 3 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediatelyC 4# Send crew from the canopy base to an off-world location, and replace the canopy base crew. (1 population dot; 1 cabal lost for Earthside ops)C 5# Begin building a base somewhere.# Recruit a new cabal.C 6# Focus on your heavy weapons factory and instantly add 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).
>>1098438Okay so interesting news. We can complete the UNS reach this turn!We can produce 1 part at greenland and have two already stored away. Thus to bring us up to sixteen out of twenty would cost six cabals.The remaining four parts could be launched at a cost of sixteen cabals.This leaves us with one cabal free to# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.I would point out we still have yet to decide if we are bothering with mars or not. Which we can easily achieve in our current time scale.Also a question OP, you said that the colony would need a powerful orbital transceiver. How many parts would it cost to send one ahead of time separately or even to attach it to the Reach?
>>1098438(Actually, one cabal is doing security on the canopy, so 4 are unavailable)Early in the year, a board-level representative of Tree Of Life shows up to one of the clinics in Pacifica that you jointly run; she is confident, possessed of a certain artificial beauty, and very matter-of-fact. Recently, Tree Of Life has taken a more business-oriented operational ethos."We've run our own simulations on your space program's activity, and think that you are planning an exodus, not just a Mars colony. Of course, we want in. If you allow members of the Board to fly on the Reach as passengers on her second trip, we will assist you in collecting as many samples of animal and plant life as possible, and make sure that the artificial wombs on the Reach will operate at full efficiency. Otherwise, we will continue to publish our designs of course, but your workers will have to do the grunt work themselves."- Locks a population dot on the Reach in favor of people with a different ideology than yours.+ Obtains Tree of Life's help in securing stem cells.Whatever your answer, your statisticians project that if Tree Of Life was able to reach this conclusion, likely other subfactions will come forward with similar proposals as soon as they understand what's going on.>>1098449Sending a preliminary probe to the Centauri system would be a beautiful science project, and remove uncertainties about any number of unknowns about the plan. However, it would effectively be its own smaller ship, even if all it carried was an antenna and some cameras. A quick estimate indicates that you would need four subsystems: an engine, fuel tank, sensor array, and antenna array, at minimum. Having nobody on board and using essentially the same engine as the Reach with a fraction of the mass would allow for greater acceleration. If designed now and launched as soon as possible (next year), the probe would arrive in +986, and its telemetry data would take four years to reach you here, arriving in +990. One thing that this would do is give some information about possible hazards of interstellar space.
>>1098466Explain to the Tree of life board members that while we understand them wanting to join, that we can't have dissident on arrival or even during the journey.If they are willing to accept the fact they will almost certainly have their culture and ideals either fade over the generations or become a minority then they may come assuming they have no problem with the fact that we will be ruling the colony. It is in our name it is built and they are merely tagging along for the ride as refugees. Admittedly so are we but we are refugees with a ship, so we call the shots.Their genetics will be screened for flaws, their psychology analysed and all other considerations that are given to any of the other colonists will be given to them. If they fail, they aren't going but can be replaced by other people from Tree of life.Thank you for answering my question OP, one more question, how many people will the Reach actually be taking?
>>1098466Bring the tree of life people. They have literally done everything they can to help us. They are great friends from what it has appeared?>>1098438>automatic base build arkship part.>10 guys building arkship parts, 12 launching the newest parts. Jeb/kat.>last cabal if we have it. Learn how to be astronauts
>>1098481The Tree of Life representative has a brief subvocal phone conversation with her bosses and writes the contract, in flawless handwriting which is clearly the result of either intense training or enhanced muscles, as your representatives makes the point to her; she accepts your terms as you offer them. "We have already performed our own screening and have selected a contingent that will allow for near-optimum genetic diversity. You will have their availability dates for psych profiling within the day. Thank you."The UNS Reach is optimized for carrying capacity rather than speed; if the whole universe collapses in the year +1000, there was no reason to hurry anyway, and if it doesn't, it is preferrable to spend an extra year in isolation than to get there but find that some essential piece of equipment has been left on Earth. She is designed to carry 400 people, 80% of which will be women (or pre-op trans men, if they are willing to forgo hormone treatment) simply because imperfections in artificial wombs are tolerable with livestock but not with people, as well as very carefully screened sperm samples from the population of your territories. The idea is to allow humanity to expand as much as possible depending on what resources are available. The Mars contingent is planned to work out the same way, except that only 300 people will be traveling and some of the livestock will be brought on the hoof rather than in the form of frozen embryos. MECs are fertile (including some heavies, although that would require getting them out of their pod!) so the distinction has not been made.# Accept this.# Modify.>>1098516Tree Of Life have assisted your programs in a number of ways, mainly by doing the biology drudgework on your MEC and nuclear program; recently, they have been taking a turn towards the hedonistic. It's not unusual to see things like three-breasted women in Pacifica, where Tree of Life has its headquarters. Christian clinics generally offer subsidized body mod removal to the few converts that do happen.Sounds like a workable plan. What will the rest of your Villains do?
>>1098516We don't need to have so many producing parts, as I have outlined in my other post (>>1098449) but I would argue we should modify it slightly, to account for sending a forward scouting probe.
>>1098535# Accept this.We can send additional pods or modify the ship to carry more if we want to expand the population later or something. So this is fine for now.
>>1098535>Ensure its actual women and not trans-men.With the reasoning. Don't need an excuse for some Solomon and gamora. If thats acceptable.>accept it.Give our angel buddy and Damine some time touring our cities. Or stopping to boardcast radio stuff.Jeb and kat doing space stuff.Zak is gonna be roman for abit, helpping ensure the factory is up to snuff and also seeing if the people are lacking anything.>>1098544We already have a probe or two in the astroid belt and this is getting us 6 parts in space. Meaning next turn we only need 3 so we can open up doing more stuff. We can launch alot of shit as its going to mars and coming? Back
>>1098552Also were gonna need to deal with the whole 'declearation' Of the tower of babalyon and the last one was ripped down by god so.. ya, borrowed time
>>1098560Okay that is true.Once we have finished the Reach, let's get to sending the population and last parts to the moon. Then we can use that as a launch point for further operations to mars, titan and the asteroid belt.
>>1098561>>1098566If we manage to do this then we will have a non-tower of babel launch site. Perhaps...
>>1098571Possibly, but its safer to get this done while TJ drags his ass or zaps tree of life for becoming Solomon and garmora.>>1098535Any kids born in space yet?
>>1098544The earliest that a probe can be launched is next year (+975) since some design work is necessary. A minimal probe design will require an engine and reactor, a fuel storage system, basic sensors (cameras and spectroscopy), and a large antenna. More modules will make the probe slower.The Cosmists have developed a fairly radical flight envelope that pushes the FFRE power plant to its limits: perform a high-speed flyby and then begin deceleration close to the Centauri system, rather than at the midpoint. The probe will then turn around and head back to the Centauri system later, arriving roughly at the same time or a few years after the UNS Reach. This will allow the initial trip to take only 11 years. If you launch the probe next year, you will receive basic telemetry (photos, maybe a short video) in +990.>>1098560>>1098552The Underground Monorail has not yet figured out that you plan an exodus, so as long as they do not, it's unlikely to cause political backlash.>>1098560Ithuriel is assigned to the same workgroup as Damien; the two are a remarkably unlikely pair (although Damien does enjoy being taken for a flight in something less noisy than Jeb's contraptions) but the heavy MEC is a known and beloved figure. Ithuriel takes token steps to hide his angelic nature, and when he's caught bare-winged on Venice Beach as part of Damien's goodwill tour, he# is interupted by Damien who improvs a sales pitch for the newest augmentation from Tree of Life.# simply notes that he's with the bad guys, and has Damien vouch for him; Ithuriel's existence has been a rumor for long enough, might as well come clean.>>1098579Not yet; the canopy station is very spartan and no place to raise a child. However, your statisticians are fairly sure that a good few were conceived there.# Let this play out naturally like you did for Night City.# Promise a small cash-equivalent prize if anyone accepts to have a child there and undergo monitoring.You send a small cadre of soldiers to train for canopy and orbital operations, which immediately gets the monicker of Flash Gordon brigade. The next day they've all painted their uniforms red and yellow. Your topside patrol indicates that TOL orbital activities have been slow: they have had a couple of failed launches, and they seem mostly interested in setting up a basic skyhook / ice hole rather than a full station. However, they have already deployed a basic rover.Over the years, the Reach is concluded, many years ahead of schedule. At this point, people in Misrayim and Pacifica have begun to be a little fatigued about space news; Night City offers the closest thing to a view of the sky, so gains some tourist activity, even though it's hard to get there.
>>1098602# simply notes that he's with the bad guys, and has Damien vouch for him; Ithuriel's existence has been a rumor for long enough, might as well come clean.# Let this play out naturally like you did for Night City.
>>1098602>His a bad guy, real majestic wing flapping.>Let it go nautrallyHopefully it works out, also oh boy will they be suprised and shock when the ark is made public in our turf.
Rolled 70 (1d100)The canopy station is limited to three units of population due to the simple fact that the canopy can only sustain so much weight; the place has taken on the air of a proper spaceport, and is beginning to develop its own slang. Once every ninety minutes, the great ship silently zooms overhead.Zak, to everyone's surprise, takes the whole "be a Roman" thing very seriously, and even gets around to learning (and teaching) some Latin. The great factory in the middle of Italy has mostly remained idle, only building a few prototypes for your heavy weapons program.The Reach is quickly filled with a reasonable sample of livestock; the emphasis there is towards survivability rather than genetic diversity.You will have to train and take Martian colonists there; the training has largely been done by volunteer organization on artificial habitats, but you will be responsible for the transfer. Three units of population are already ready to go on the canopy station; the Reach's current configuration can handle five.The Reach's interstellar engines can get to Mars using a hybrid of Hohmann transfer and brachistocrone.# Launch for Mars as soon as the Reach is ready.# Wait for the full load.>>1098609"Yes, this is the body of an Angel of the Lord" Ithuriel says simply.Civil-protection phone apps are called and trip, and the beach is quickly evacuated before either Ithuriel or Damien have time to explain. You direct the Venice Beach city administration to deal with the disturbance by arresting the perpetrators (Damien isn't wearing a frame, and Ithuriel loudly proclaims his intention to not resist arrest). However, this is going on in Venice Beach, not far away from the nominal capital in Orange County; it's entirely possible that the first responders will be believers, and Ithuriel is really, really not good at lying (He can, although he doesn't like to; however, he has the poker face of a six year old with Nutella on his lips).
>>1098624# Wait for the full load.If we are going to have to rebuild a huge section of the craft later, let's get our moneys worth out of it while we can.
>>1098624>Wait for a full load of what will 'ensure' Mars survival and then head there and come back. We'll need quite abit of time.>GET THE GAS READY. DON'T LET THEM STEAL OUR BABY
>>1098622>>1098624Fortunately, the first responders are not police at all, but private security for one of a numbers of high-class entertainment establishment built all over the Venice Beach strip; Ithuriel surrenders to them and is quickly taken to one of the casinos' penthouse, with one bouncer haplessly left behind to explain to the actual cops what happened. The incident is dropped.Twenty minutes later, Ithuriel - with Damien in his lap, the blue-haired face familiar to nearly everyone in the territory - is interviewed by a local news crews and, without any embellishments, tells his story: the Angel's soul vacated the body after its defeat, and was sent to Hell. A combination of luck and skill allowed a standard issue Mark 10 metabolic extension controlled to be wired into the Angel's brain just at the right time, although the brain damage was enough to erase his memory, and the tender cares of a matronly Australian nurse for a surrogate mother did the rest. Ithuriel answers a few questions ranging from "Are you a fallen angel?" ("In a sense. The doctors say that I am human enough to be one of us") to whether he's dating Damien ("No, we aren't dating") to whether he would consider a career in porn ("I don't want to disappoint you, but my penis and testicles are the work of Tree Of Life; my former master did not see fit to leave me intact", which causes quite a bit of anger on the internet).The interview has made some guy's career, opened an intense debate online, got the poor Angel - who so far has expressed no sexual preference other than "nominally heterosexual, but not interested at this time" - to get mobbed by a few rabid fangirls and a couple of rabid fanboys because, well, he's actually that good looking, and Damien to find the whole matter absolutely hilarious. The two even pose for a tasteful-nude modeling shoot that implies that Damien is going down on Ithuriel; the photography students who participated become instant internet celebrities.The Cosmists generate the requested design for a probe; it will require four components total and reuse some parts that were intended for the UNS Reach but, while passing stress tests, were found to be inferior to the prime parts and relegated to backups.# End year.# Something else....
>>1098701# End year.
>>1098701>double check the parts already up and on the ground for stress and stuff. Make the threshold for parts abit higher if possible?So uh..is tree of life okay with only pure ''real' women being sent? No post-op trans men with the reason of 'no solomon and garmora' ? If so >next year
>>1098712I want no failures on this by parts. Only stupid guys.
>>1098712The current Tree Of Life leadership is neutral on trans issues; they will do the best job they can, and by now it's a great job indeed, for people who earn enough reputation with you (or with them directly) to replace their private parts. Their main concern other than giving passenger seats to their board of directors is genetic diversity for the new humanity. Some of their leadership see trans people as a self-solving problem (people with a genetic disease who choose to not reproduce), some want to eventually solve the problem in its entirety by full X/Y chromosome replacement, although that hasn't been a priority, some embrace the postmodern culture, and the rest - a small majority - don't think it matters in +974; maybe in +1001.Oddly, the Tree of Life board members who did not pass psych testing seem unconcerned; two of them mention, in passing (well, in passing water, but they should know that all your datacenters are monitored everywhere) that it simply means that their own endgame plan will have to suffice. Whatever it is, it has something to do with your gas canister catapult project.The year ends on a quiet note; believing media has largely decried Ithuriel's reveal as a hoax. Tree Of Life is asked by the Pacifican government to hand over all body mod procedure patient data, which they do for the last two weeks since that's all they keep on file, and all their medical patents, which they don't -- your lawyers estimate that litigation will take longer than it will take for the Last Battle to end.(updating image)
>>1098741Well thats nice of Tree Of Life. I'm glad we didn't cause a rift by that, I'm sure they understand the value of our 'project'. Do we know what there end game project is?
>>1098753As far as I am aware we don't but considering their views and skills...it might be a bio-weapon delivered by the catapult launchers with the goal of killing off enough believers to "kill" god.
>>1098759Thats fine then. Good luck with them, the madmen/women
>>1098759>>1098763The leaked conversation is all you know for sure; you can ask, but they are under no obligation to tell you, as per your current deal.(The various subfactions that you have absorbed - Cosmists, Tree of Life, UM - have been working for you, but have their own agenda, obviously; I only ever brought it up when it might differ. The Dwarves so far seem to want to be left alone, although Urist has requested a meeting)
>>1098766Well bring Urist in, lets see what he wants then.
Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.htmlYou have 26 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, so 23 are available. Your civilian research grant is focused on worker drones and the hell-mouth. Your military grant is focused on heavy tank designs.You are not tracking enemy teams.Variable complexity:# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.# Any interesting idea you might want to try.# Deal with special situations.# Assign manpower to research. Current military focus: Heavy tanks. Current civilian focus: Soft robotics / synthetic muscles.Complexity 0# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets (1/3rd dot) or aerospace equipment.C 1# Identify flora/fauna specimens for cryopreservation.# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.# Attempt to interface and analyze your Hell nodes.C 2# Resume tracking.# Use any base to produce army assets (1/3rd dot)# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.# Build aerospace parts.# Do a space launch using parts you have built.* Near-space relays (PNR)* Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)* Mining complex to Luna* Manned mission to Luna* Mining probe to asteroids* Arkship constructionC 3# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.# Using your internet dominance, hack TOL.# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.# Convert 3 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediatelyC 4# Send crew from the canopy base to an off-world location, and replace the canopy base crew. (1 population dot; 1 cabal lost for Earthside ops)C 5# Begin building a base somewhere.# Recruit a new cabal.C 6# Focus on your heavy weapons factory and instantly add 1 dot to army size (navy or heavy).
>>1098772>18 cabal to get all the plant and animals for cyro.>send one pop of the canopy station too the ark 4 cabal.Uh..is there a way for mass recruitment still within our cities for people to get on the ark or is it gonna always us cabals, because that seems...wrong?
>>1098772# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce aerospace equipment.# Build aerospace parts. - 2 cabalsThen use another 6 cabals to launch these to the moon to complete the colony there and to launch the near space relays (PNR) mission.12 cabals should get to work moving the pre-prepared population to the Reach for the mars mission while we get more ready.The remaining three should work on identifying flora/fauna specimens for cryopreservation.>>1098804Would you like to discuss a compromise between our plans?
>>1098769Urist shows up at the beginning of the year; the Dwarf is dressed into what would look like an amazing piece of cosplay if it wasn't for the fact that all the leather and steel and gold trim is the real deal and has been forged, milled and stamped the traditional way. The axe is almost as sharp as Ithuriel's sword or Azrael's scythe."Those born under the earth have chosen me, their eldest, to represent them. We want no part in your struggle. Keep the surface if can; take the stars if you must; but we have held our moot, and want no part in your war. I will travel to Antarctica and Jerusalem with the same message. In the fullness of time, we will fill Night City, and while we respect our forebears, we wish to remain separate from them. To this effect, we will buy the town from you, now with sweat, rather than later with blood. What is your price?"Your sysadmins cannot believe that this guy is less than forty years old. He's even taken up smoking to deepen his voice!>>1098804You will be recruiting from your population. However, one cabal (ultimately one or two individuals) will stick with the colonists to act as, essentially, political officers and informants. The rest of their cabal will be assisting them Earthside as part of mission control.
>>1098816I'll back you this turn.>>1098819Ask him why he believes he'd be spared when no others will be when the year 1000 rolls around? Be polite but confused. Also find out if the general population feels this way, because this is a massive betrayal.Also see if we can convice them to aid us like the tree of life in some fashion.
>>1098819I say that's alright with them earning their own city however I'd try to argue with them about this not being their struggle. Share teh data that we have of what the End Times from the believers will look like. As it is we should also share that one of their own was already abducted and most likely experimented on by the Greater Jersualem area. We never got a chance to find out what happened to the poor fella did we?I mean I just want to stress that they can't hide away in the ground because the big guy in the sky is more than likely going to tear up their homes by the roots or flood it all with lava before remaking it. Can't pull a treebeard here and try to hide from this battle. If nothing else I'd say our price should at least be support in the coming battle or at least some of their kind to at least take with us on the ARK in case of total annilation better that some of their legacy is passed on at least.
>>1098840Oh and tell him how TOL/Tj wanted him and the others ded via assassination but we saved them or some shit. I forget what that whole thing was about.
>>1098819"There is no price your people could pay that would really be of value to me. I have no need of most of what you can offer; I need no labour, no weapon nor wealth.The night city itself is the only thing of value, as it represents the resistance against god. It is a symbol and you making it clear you aren't with us; that destroys a symbol we have worked to cultivate.I am quite happy to let you have the night city if we fail to stop god, I am quite happy to let you have it if we succeed as well but as of this moment in time? It is my construction and I won't see anyone topple it until it has finished it's purpose.So can you wait until after we have dealt with god for independence? If not then I suppose we could assist you in setting up your own independent city in the deep. Using our nuclear tunnelling machines and such."
>>1098819I say give them the tunneling machinery if we can analyze one of their weapons and do a quick speciation test. I want to see if dwarven smithing is on par with angelic.Otherwise the dwarves are free to do as they please. I am a nationalist afterall.
>>1098851>>1098840Urist appreciates the reference to Treebeard; you get the impression that he's committed as much Tolkien to memory than Tsion Ben-Judah has the Bible."Yahweh can be lord of the heavens. The dwarf clarifies that he knows that Night City was built by Men originally, and even recites some of the former salt mine's history; that is why he wants to buy it with his people's work. "All our history is one of bloody conquest; but it doesn't have to be. We would conquer your city with honest sweat, not bitter blood.">>1098856>>1098851You share with Urist the simulation of the End Times, particularly the part where the Earth will be, once again, remade (if at all possible, into something even more featureless). You also explain the reason why you are not willing to part with the underground town."I see your point, but my people need a home - best to secure one now when we are few and there is no reason to fight. We know that we come from your people, and are grateful; we promise you peace, and we will continue to toil for Night City even though it is not ours. But, will you give us another audience in five years? Perhaps by then we will have something you might want."Urist also asks for a bit of advice - should he visit Antarctica or New Jerusalem first?In an adjacent room in the same datacenter, your military analysts note that Noah's Ark, a perfect replica, has been latched to tugs and is moving out of its moorings.>>1098816>>1098804(A reminder: If you wish to rush the interstellar probe successfully and launch it this year, you have to do it now, it will cost 4 parts if you want a 100% success rate; if you want to take risks by undermanning the operation, Jeb and Zak are your best choices of Villains to head the effort. The probe will return data 15 years after launch.)>>1098891Leaving the tunneler with Night City for a while is certainly better than keeping it idle; Urist is very happy to give you his axe in return, treating it as an old-timey exchange of gifts (he understands that he is only borrowing the tunneler). He is more privacy-oriented with his DNA, though; for that he wants exclusive use of the tunneler for five years, although he will also provide other dwarven DNA samples.Off the record, he laments his brethren's unwillingness to settle on, or rather under, the Moon.
>>1098901>give him the right of free city but also to again in 4 years. Ask however if they would be willing to build a tunnel to connect night city and the capital we have.>rush it and underman it. Put jeb and Zak on it.We need the data, i forgot about that.
>>1098901"I have contacts with the Antarctica base of TOL, if you want you could use my systems to send them a message and I know the location of one or two of god's pieces. I can see you get transport to one of them so you can deliver your message."
>>1098901How would his brothers feel about settling a planet out of system? Also offer him secruity/a way to communcate TOL and Turbojesus without actually having him go and die, or at the very least a drone/secruity detail cause the last time the person went he died
>>1098901I would Advise against either but feel you would be safer visiting Antarctica. New Jerusalem is home to TJ and from what we have gathered he has a high success rate for making converts of visitors. Sadly it seems this has more to do with somatic mental control than any coercion.Iteast in Antarctica, should something happen you would still be you.
>>1098921There already effectively is a "tunnel" (rather, a series thereof, with rest stops) between Misrayi and Night City. Completing it would be just the sort of project that they would enjoy.>>1098925>>1098929Your space proposal has Urist nodding gravely."I have mooted this, and agree with you, but my brethren would rather make their home on this Earth, not another."Urist thinks that showing up in person would show respect. Initial telemetry shows that he may be lying. "Surely they would not harm the leader of a people coming in peace to talk.">>1098931Urist thanks you for the ride, and notes that he will go to Antarctica first; you are to expect tissue samples from the dwarfs within the week.>>1098921So what's the overall plan? The interstellar probe is optional, albeit recommended.
>>1098939Send the probe, underman it using jeb and Zak and anybody else we can. It'll be nice.>Inform him that they would indeed harm him, that they harmed another who went in peace before and we would rather you do it via distance. If he falls to either side.. well the others may follow and suffer. His safety is important and press for this matter, permit us to ensure like the humans under our arms, the survival of his own when able.
>>1098939Probe is to get us the data and make sure we know which world.is the easiest for the Ark encase somebody eats too many rations and it'll also confirm that gods reach is only so far as the system or where his 'believers' are. Probe needs to be durable, long lasting and fast-ish.
>>1098939Underman probe Zak and Jeb.
>>1098952Urist drops to a stage whisper. "If they assassinate me, all of dwarfkind goes to war. Pray they're that stupid. Pray you're that lucky. "He does however alter his plans: before going, he will use your equipment to videocall, since you allow it# and you will monitor it.# and you will respect diplomatic protocol.>>1098964>>1098959(Okay, how many cabals towards probe work? Full complement is 16)
>>1098989Underman by 3. Respect diplomatic protocol, advise mental domination seems to occur during long preachy "speeches" about the nature of God. It would be ideal to avoid hearing one in full.
>>1098989That's thirteen total with two heros working it right?>>1099001
>>1098989>return the low whisper"I will not pray one of my children and friends dies, even if it aids me. ">Record the calls, because that is easier then just listening in. We can review it later. Also inform him TOL tends to betray their word so keep alert.;-; i like our dwarf son.
>>1098989Underman it by 3 like anti said. I'm on my phone so eh. Jeb and Zak should be more then enough.
>>1099018I agree with this I don't want our dwarf bros to die here man
>>1099018Agreed. Say this. But rather than children, friends and allies.
>>1099025>>1099027Well we were tasked with ensuring all humanity 'survives' as a parent kinda is. Dwarves are a sub-gene of humanity so by all technical rights. We're too protect them as well and we're also older them him so.. he won't take offense. His a smart man.
>>1099023>>1099001The project begins, albeit a little rushedly.(Sorry for being a pest but mind if I get a plan for the other 13 cabals? Looking for genetic samples, correct? Anything else?)>>1099018>>1099027Urist answers with a booming laugh and slaps the sysadmin monitoring the video conference on the back in such a way that he will probably need a bit of physical therapy to recover.When you cut direct communication, Urist remains in the room for approximately an hour to talk to Sunday and whichever Levite priest is in charge of what little diplomacy there is between you and Greater Jerusalem; you record the call, but have not directed anyone to review it yet. The first call takes about fifty minutes; the second about ten.>>1099027"I thank you. We will provide tissue samples to the Night City doctors, and keep working towards its prosperity. Unlike The Other Light, we do not worship a deceiver, and my word is true - we will talk again in five years, and see if by then we won't have a prize worthy of a city's ransom!"Urist does not leave his ornate axe with you; instead, a considerably more plain specimen is delivered via regular mail the next day. If the ceremonial axe was heavy and represented traditional craftsmanship, this one is a good balance between throwability and utility use (for someone of Urist's strength anyway: the dwarf can probably arm-wrestle down Ithuriel and give a workout to a Heavy MEC's motors) and might as well have been sintered atom by atom given how tight the tolerances on it are; a cursory examination shows that the steel blade and titanium handle have been bonded by a micron-thick "sheath" of diamond.For now, Urist has returned to Night City.# Keep the deal and hand over the tunneling machines for five years.# Don't.
>>1099071>keep the deal.>Get that axe examed and compared to angelic weapons. Have our angel us it as well in test runsUh.. purple ID said earlier the plan I believe
>>1099071(I thought the thirteen Cabals were what manned the probe mission with Zak and Jeb? Did I missed that?)
Rolled 19 (1d100)>>1099088(That's what I have. You have 26 cabals, 4 are busy, so what are the other 9 doing? I want to double check, sorry, not super awake today)Over the course of the year, Ithuriel will train with Urist's axe.There is really no way to hide what the new probe is for, and little reason to: your media makes it very clear that this year's unprecedented (and slightly rushed) effort is towards sending a probe to another star.In a world in which a quarter of the population has more or less slowly lapsed into the belief that stars are little tiny dots in the firmament, not as if they get to see them anyway, this is unprecedented; an amusing side effect is that creationist luminaries such as Dr. Hovind have to explain to the most "pastoralized" part of the population that yes, such a thing is possible and it's nothing particularly miraculous on your part. Of course, this is mixed with sermons thundered from radio and TV antennas concerning the fact that the citizens of Osaze should look towards New Jerusalem, not upwards, if their mind is so keen on heavenly affairs, but nothing new there. In the meantime, some of your more militant citizens enjoy listening to "creation scientists" clarify people's doubts with solid science for once.# Encourage debates.# Allow (ignore) debates.# Discourage debates.
>>1099132>encourage The rest are being used to scan/move popluation too the ark and secure the animals/plants
>>1099132# Encourage debates.We have an encyclopedia of where their arguments Collapse. And can use silencer tech. Have a sound dependant psuedo deity.
Rolled 12 (1d100)>>1099132(WOW THESE DICE)Built around the "spare" engine for the UNS reach, the probe ends up looking remarkably like the spaceship from A Space Odyssey, and the final design goes along with this; the solar panels that will allow it to keep operating once it has reached the Centauri system and used up its nuclear fuel are folded tight against the long and thin body, to avoid being hit by micrometeoroids. At a hair over half the speed of light, this will be humanity's fastest creation to date. Reportedly, Jeb has to be prevented from adding a last-minute pilot's station.Of course, during its construction literally everything that can go wrong goes wrong. During launch of one of the components to the canopy, someone blasphemes after being hit over the head by a piece of debris thrown off by the takeoff blast; the bolt of lightning hits the booster, damaging the upper stage's generator."SCE to AUX" Zak declares confidently, switching the system to batteries; you're minus a fairly expensive set of lithium batteries when Cordylon retrieves the cargo, but the launch succeeded.Docking issues plague the orbital assembly, largely because the math that was done to dock Reach's parts together had not been revised properly, which sends the sensor array into a collision course with the larger ship just as Mars-bound colonists are approaching it; Jeb takes manual control of the tug and eyeballs a plane shift maneuver that averts collision by just a few hundred meters.Before the end of the year, Humanity's first interstellar craft is good to go; the engines open full blast for a moment for a test and to make sure its parking orbit is higher than the Reach's, and all that is left now is waiting a fraction of an orbit to when the probe will be aligned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG-2Pvoq9Ck# Name the probe.>>1099146In comparison, loading the colonists and equipment on the Reach is surprisingly painless; the group will do a general systems test on the Reach's habitat, and use the months spent in low earth orbit as a general rehearsal for their journey. Your psychologists gather a lot of useful information on crew dynamics, and they only have to "call a repairman" from the canopy twice.Your remaining personnel set up a junior science program intended to bring in as many variety of animals and plants as possible; the positive response ensures that low quality is vastly offset by great quantity, so all your and Lifetree professionals have to do is filter.# Allow Christians to participate, tie it in with Noah's visit.# Don't tie in.# Don't allow.>>1099146>>1099151
>>1099202>Enterprise >Allow Christians and tie it in with noah, say its a copy of his because of his 'amazing ecological salavation efforts'
>>1099202>PhalisAllow tie, be prepared to push back.
>>1099202>12THE SPACE PROBE STRUGGLE IS REAL
>>1099235Par for the course for this quest, dice wise.>>1099213>>1099232Noah begins his tour of the Mediterranean coast with a replica of the Ark - the craft is supposed to be accurate 1:1 on the outside, but on the inside it has been fit as a mobile conference center and lecture hall (although it does, of course, contain a zoo). Noah himself seems to have little to tell other than his Biblical story, although he is a pleasant narrator; he is mostly interested in interacting with children. Your dockworkers erect their share of "Please do not try to debate Noah directly" and "Please do not torpedo the Ark" signs, and Misrayim police ends up having to play security for the guy, since homemade torpedoes are well within the capability of the average Misray tinkerer.Your biodiversity collection program plays along with Noah's visit, although your people make it sound that it's intended for Mars rather than for Alpha Centauri; there is the predictable clash between believers wanting to "reclaim the rainbow" and Underground Monorail activists, but that remains contained to the far side of the ports. Overall, Noah's little goodwill trip has cost you some resources, mostly in security - your cops and coast guard have been instructed to be# harsh with all people getting in the way, violating the civil rights of a few is worth not starting another war so close to the endgame.# harsh with people wanting to "test" torpedos or water drones on or near the Ark, but lenient with peaceful protesters. No violence, but people can shout all they like.# unusually obsequious with Noah and crew in an attempt to mollify the patriarch and, by extension, Tsion: UM people are gently led away, and the northern ports effectively become Christian zones while the Ark is there.One thing your observers notice is that once aboard the Ark, children become incredibly docile; years will tell if conversions happened by supernatural pressure, but as it is, many of your teacher would love to know how Noah is doing it - he tells his story over and over with little variation from the Bible, but he sounds paternal and friendly and gets even the most fidgety kids to sit down and listen.Unfortunately, all the brouhaha hampers your genetic collection efforts more than helps it, largely because the Christians getting involved keep talking over your instructors whenever evolution is mentioned; even so, near the end of Noah's tour the local Wizard Scout troop presents the ancient patriarch with a photo album of children all over the world playing naturalist. He is genuinely touched.
>>1099270Supernatural fuckery at its most common.# harsh with people wanting to "test" torpedos or water drones on or near the Ark, but lenient with peaceful protesters. No violence, but people can shout all they like.We will not invoke destructive Supernatural fuckery.
>>1099270>harash with everybody equally, using knock out gas so nobody is truly harmed and can be moved away until later.>Tell Noah thanks for being better then the other experiences and safe sailing/travelling. >Make note of the kids/people who went on his ship and classify them as possible danger elements so they will never be given important jobs or permitted in space on our arkship or stations.We fucked up.
>>1099324Fuck it. Changing too they can shout like this guy >>1099297 but keeping the rest of my vote
>>1099324A few children being converted is a sad inevitablity of this world.
>>1099270Harsh on torpedos butt lenient on the peaceful folks.I would also say a brief message to Noah for being a good sport and thanks for saving the animals that came with him
Hey geist, Can you answer my question here?>>1098198And can the overlord drone idea make drone cabals possible?>>1098204>>1098205>>1098226
(Back, grandma on phone)>>1099395That sort of thing requires either large smelters, refineries, and factories, or a way to disassemble rocks molecule by molecule and assemble machinery likewise molecule by molecule. It's doable, if you have a few centuries to spend on it; likewise, a selfcontained vehicle with AI is doable, if you have a few decades to spend on it.To prevent a